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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>'Toly Arutunoff is a hard corre Stude
guy. Raced a '62 GT Hawk</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>at Sebring in the sedan race in '64.
Also did some racing with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>another older Hawk. I was thinking of
going vintage racing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>with a Stude Hawk and contacted 'Toly to see
if he knew</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of the whereabouts of the '62. Very
nice conversation. Turns out</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>he loaned the street legal car to a buddy to take
on a long trip</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to visit a girlfriend. Car was stolen and
never recoverred.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Another GT Hawk was raced in USAC in
'64. One of my Stude</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>friends has copies of all the Hollman and Moody
papers relating</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to their pretty successful race programs with Larks
in the old</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sedan racing series circa 1960.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>art d</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=rjohns@woh.rr.com href="mailto:rjohns@woh.rr.com">Robert Johns</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=budscars@comcast.net
href="mailto:budscars@comcast.net">RACER BUD</A> ; <A
title=spreiss@verizon.net href="mailto:spreiss@verizon.net">Steven Preiss</A>
; <A title=edwardbarnard@prodigy.net
href="mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net">edwardbarnard@prodigy.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fot@autox.team.net
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Fot] Studebaker stories</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All right guys, you have done it. I am
going to have to tell you my tale of woe. Visualize this! I was
attending the Swiss Auto Club Racing Drivers School in Monza, Italy in
1956. After we attended classes, they grouped us in classes (more like
bunches) to do some racing. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After Studebaker had merged with Packard, they
built a variation of the Hawk with the huge Packard engine of the
day. What did I know of such things? I was stuck in Europe
at the time. Guess what they stuck in the class with me, one of these
monsters. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Off we went, racing our little hearts
out. Me in my little TR2, the Stude (model?) Hawk, and several more
interesting pieces of iron. That Stude would blow my doors off
going down the straight and I would pass him on the next set of curves.
Back and forth we went, and I think I finally got far enough ahead of him
that he didn't catch me again. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Speaking of interesting iron. That race was
my first and only experience of running against a genuine Austin Healy S
(not M, but S). They were not many built, and the Importer for
Switzerland had this one, and it ran very well, with its cross flow head
and lots of tricks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any ways, that is my Studebaker story.
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob Johns</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=budscars@comcast.net href="mailto:budscars@comcast.net">RACER
BUD</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=spreiss@verizon.net
href="mailto:spreiss@verizon.net">Steven Preiss</A> ; <A
title=edwardbarnard@prodigy.net
href="mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net">edwardbarnard@prodigy.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fot@autox.team.net
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group
question</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One of my favorite cars for Style was the (I
think 53 stude..Golden Hawk?..no fins...when the fins were added..they were
literaly 'attached')..i saw a NASCAR Hawk in a movie theater lobby promoting
a movie which I cannot remember(mid -late 1950s)...That was one of the cars
that added to the racing bug</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Racer Bud</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=spreiss@verizon.net href="mailto:spreiss@verizon.net">Steven
Preiss</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=edwardbarnard@prodigy.net
href="mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net">edwardbarnard@prodigy.net</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fot@autox.team.net
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 01, 2008
2:04 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group
question</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One of my neighborhood friends growing up was
a Studebaker nut, a passion (or perhaps a genetic trait) no doubt
inherited from his dad. They would work into the night in the carport on
one or another of their cars, droplights providing a weary glow. The
cars, which as I recall ranged from a 1950 convertible, painted red
with a white top, to a sleek Silver Hawk with a 289 and glass packs,
always seemed exotic in an atypical American sort of
way. A buddy of theirs had what they referred to as
'the Studebaker farm', which was actually a small dairy farm<FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>, the main pasture of which was lined with
over 100 Studebakers that had been hauled in from all over the countryside
and carefully placed side by side around the perimeter, providing an
endless supply of parts and projects. Martin was a somewhat laconic fellow
who carpeted his cars with an array of carpet "chucks" gleaned from a
local flooring company. He also was the first in our group of carpoolers
to drive his own car to school. Some wild rides down narrow curving
residential streets are emblazoned in my memory. One striking
characteristic of the cars was the overdrives, activated by a little
toggle switch always placed inconspicuously under the dash. Another
was their propensity for burning oil, which meant that the dipstick became
a familiar friend. Which leads me to the point. Whether a
result of unintentional poor' design or intentional daily abuse, cans
of STP were always kept in the trunks of the cars, along with quarts
of inexpensive motor oil, giving true meaning to the term, "Studebaker
Tested Products"!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>STeve P. ----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=edwardbarnard@prodigy.net
href="mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net">EDWARD BARNARD</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ehusmann53@yahoo.com
href="mailto:ehusmann53@yahoo.com">ehusmann53@yahoo.com</A> ; <A
title=dkettler@tcbi.com
href="mailto:dkettler@tcbi.com">dkettler@tcbi.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fot@autox.team.net
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">FOT</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 02, 2008
3:44 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group
question</DIV>
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<DIV>Lister's: Thank you to all that answered my question about
STP. A call to their H.Q. public relations office this morning has
revealed what we should assume is the truth. The STP does stand
for Scientifically Treated Petroleum. The Wiki reference to it
standing for Studebaker Tested Products is in fact true. The
company did tie their name to the product for a short time until
Andy G. took over. But, the Wiki reference to King Richard no
longer being a spokeperson for the company is false. According to
the P.R. department, they have the longest commercial endorse in
history. </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks again to the list!</DIV>
<DIV> -Ed-<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/30/08, David
<SPAN>Kettler</SPAN> <I><dkettler@tcbi.com></I></B>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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David Kettler <dkettler@tcbi.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Fot]
Non-LBC group question<BR>To: ehusmann53@yahoo.com<BR>Cc: "FOT"
<fot@autox.team.net>, edwardbarnard@prodigy.net<BR>Date:
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 9:52 PM<BR><BR><PRE>I recall when I was a kid collecting STP stickers at gas stations.
I always understood it to be Scientifically Tested Products.
Dave Kettler
At Tuesday, 30 September 2008, Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Ed:
>
>From STP's web page: STP = Scientifically Treated Petroleum--- On
Tue, 9/30/08, EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net> wrote:
>From: EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>Subject: [Fot] Non-
LBC group questionTo: "FOT" <fot@autox.team.net>Date: Tuesday,
September
30, 2008, 11:06 AM
>
>Lister's: I'm writing a magazine article about Indy roadsters
(Kurtis',
Novi', etc) and am examining the Studebaker/Packard powered cars.
In 1963 Studebaker purchased from three gentlemen a little known
company named Chemical Compounds, which had an oil additive product
they were selling from the trunks of their cars. Studebaker gave
Andy Granatelli, then head engineer and chief test driver for Studebaker
the position of CEO of the newly acquired company which he then renamed
STP. Now my question...does anyone know for certain the meaning of
STP? I am getting mixed answers from The Racing History Group. Most
say it stands for Specially Treated Petroleum, while a few are saying
it stands for Studebaker Test Products. Do any of the FOTers know
the "true" side of the story?
>BTW, later I will relate this past Saturday spent with three great
guys, Johnny Rutherford, Lloyd Ruby, and Jim McElreath, at a car
show we had.
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