<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Absolutely. There's lots of really good trailers around selling for next to nothing. <div><br><div><div>On Sep 28, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Scott Janzen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff" style="word-wrap: break-word; "><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I am always amazed at the prices used trailers bring. I bought a 20' dual axle Haulmark several years ago around this time at the factory for about $4600. They are still about the same price, last time I looked. BTW, Haulmark, and maybe others, has various assembly plants around the country, so find one near you. I found it on eBay, where a wholesaler listed trailers they contracted to buy with a buy it now price, but didn't want to take delivery of because it would just sit on their lot all winter.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">A dealer told me late fall is a great time to buy an enclosed trailer, as there is left-over stock (esp this year, I bet) and the landscapers, etc are not buying at this time of year. </font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">a ten year old trailer sounds like failing electrics, dry rotted tires and rusty frame to me.</font></div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rkramer3@austin.rr.com" href="mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com">BOB KRAMER</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="fot@autox.team.net" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">FOT List</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:49 AM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Fot] Enclosed trailer advice</div><div><br></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Anyone out the knowledgeable on trailer construction?</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I have always enjoyed taking my car to the track on an open trailer. You get a lot a waves and thumbs up but on this last trip I got a dent. It is time or me to get an enclosed trailer. I found a used one locally it has been used as a construction trailer for the last 5 years after having carried around a quarter midget team.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I can buy this 10 year old 24 foot CargoMate trailer for around 4 grand. They added an A/C unit (uncertain if it works) and the roof is dented from climbing around up there, probably to service the A/C. The inside was interior grade paneled over the 3/8 plywood and some of the plywood has warped pushing the paneling out. I suspect condensation from the A/C unit.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I understand that the lighter trailers use a strong box frame and a thin wood skin for wall construction and the others like this one use a lighter metal channel that needs plywood walls for strength. What I don't know is if you can easily replace damaged sections of plywood, or is it even necessary. Judging condition of the torsion axles, brakes etc is another variable.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2">I'm also worried about the weight behind my 3/4 ton pick-up. I suppose a load leveling hitch is mandatory.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">At this point I'm leaning away from buying it. Any advice appreciated.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div>Bob Kramer<br><a href="mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com">rkramer3@austin.rr.com</a></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br><br>Fot mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Fot@autox.team.net">Fot@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot</a><br><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br><br>Fot mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Fot@autox.team.net">Fot@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot</a><br><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(118, 15, 79); font-size: 16px; ">Bill Babcock</span></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Babcock & Jenkins</div><div><a href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Billb@bnj.com</a></div><div>503.936.7660</div><div><a href="http://www.bnj.com">www.bnj.com</a></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000">Editor</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000">Ke Nalu e-Magazine</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><i>Paddlesurfing's Web Journal</i></span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><i><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></i></span></font></div><div><a href="mailto:Bill@kenalu.com">Bill@kenalu.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.kenalu.com">www.kenalu.com</a></div><div>blog: <a href="http://www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog">www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></span></div></span> </div><br></div></body></html>