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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lot</span></font></st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>’s of us are members of the VTR and also our local Triumph
clubs which are for the most part Chapters of the VTR. I believe one of the
requirements for becoming a chapter is to hold an annual event, which we seem
to be doing with the Kastner Cup. Although it wouldn’t help the autocrossers
and hill-climbers on the list, any additional promotion that would result from
an “FOT Chapter” of the VTR putting more Triumphs out to race for
the Kastner Cup gets my vote. On the other hand I think there is some provision
for a monthly newsletter and as a loosely organized group with no dues, rules
etc. I don’t think we want that kind of obligation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Speaking of annual events, the Texas All
British Car Day, my local club’s (Hill Country Triumph Club) annual event
is this weekend near Austin Texas. We are in our 18<sup>th</sup> year and this
show was created specifically to meet the VTR requirements. If you are going to
be in the area we have a rallye Saturday afternoon and a participant’s
choice car show Sunday. We had 144 cars last year. Contact me directly for
info. As always I’ll be bringing my racecar to promote vintage racing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jim<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 23, 2008
11:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Herald948@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> fot@autox.team.net;
bdischer@blakedischer.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen
Poster VTR & FoT</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Andy,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>To what point?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>When I purchased my first Spitfire ('73
1500) in 1989 I'd asked a friend familiar with the scene if there were any
clubs to look at. I was told of one national club ( VTR) but told they
were only focused on the side curtain TRs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>My first call to a VTR officer in
central NJ kinda confirmed that idea.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>To my knowledge most of the factory
efforts post sidecurtain cars went into the Spitfires.. not forgetting the
Group 44 TR6s and the TR7/TR8s.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There are members on this list who are
die hard VTR members. There are folks on this list who maybe are a bit...
ambivalent about the VTR. At best.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>So... as a former VTR president.. what
are you proposing? And what are the requirements, and dues?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I rule nothing out before looking at
it.. Maybe I won't like what I see though.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Dallas</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>'76 DM Spitfire autocrossser<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>and a barn full of projects.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Herald948@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 23, 2008
9:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> tr3a58@verizon.net;
N197TR4@cs.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> fot@autox.team.net;
bdischer@blakedischer.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen
Poster VTR & FoT</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial id="role_document"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In a message dated
9/23/2008 8:59:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tr3a58@verizon.net writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Joe;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> You
might be surprized as to how many FOT members are also members of the VTR. I
for one am VTR member #599. Joined way back in the beginning. Also a
member of TRA, TR Register/UK, SVRA, VDCA, SCCA, and yes, National Street Rod
Association. A tried and true "Car Nut". <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>==AM==<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Gee, Dean, you're just a kid. My VTR
member number is 113. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This does raise an interesting
possibility, were FoT members so inclined: perhaps we could become some sort of
"Special Chapter" or "Affiliate" of VTR? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>--Andy
Mace<br>
<br>
*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?<br>
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.<br>
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)<br>
<br>
Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph
Register: <a href="http://www.vtr.org/">http://www.vtr.org</a><br>
<br>
Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald
Database: <a href="http://triumph-herald.us/">http://triumph-herald.us</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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