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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Gang....Here It Is.......Straight Out....CAR
RACING AND DEATH....I've kept kinda' Quiet about the subject
..Regarding Deaths in Vintage Racing...and have Layed Back and
contemplated things as I've read the numerous emails......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Essence of Race Driving is to go as fast as we
can to win!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some of us will die doing that.....That's just the
way it is....That's REALLY the way it is.!.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vintage...Who the heck knows who's driving over
their heads or not?...No Way To Tell.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Racer Bud's Conclusion..I.f the word DANGER
creeps into your mind very often..DO NOT RACE....... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Racer Bud..Spitfire #21</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Billb@bnj.com href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Bill Babcock</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=standardtriumph@btinternet.com
href="mailto:standardtriumph@btinternet.com">John Macartney</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fot@autox.team.net
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</A> ; <A
title=bdischer@blakedischer.com
href="mailto:bdischer@blakedischer.com">bdischer@blakedischer.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] VTR & FoT</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>You wrote the email I thought of writing but decided not to.
Personally, the only clubs I really want to belong to are the ones that have a
bar, a restaurant (good one), a pool table and a library (in my case that's
the Arlington Club, a truly great establishment here in Portland),
and the ones like the FOT, where no twinkie with a claptrap P.O.S. excuse for
a LBC gets up at every meeting and rants
about parliamentary procedure and whether or not they have a quorum
to decide on tuna fish sandwiches for the picnic.
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<DIV>I always thought the VTR existed to document the provenance (however
modest) of cars. The rest seems kind of ancillary. It's not the cars that are
diminishing, it's the members--if nothing else they are kicking the bucket. No
disrespect meant for those that love their clubs, but unless these
clubs get a lot more interesting, and figure out ways to get the
self-important twinkies to shut up, there won't be critical mass of people
younger than 60 taking part. </DIV>
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<DIV>FOT part of VTR (or any other "real" organization)--<B>perish the
thought</B>. </DIV>
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<DIV>On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:40 PM, John Macartney wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Andy Mace wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>This does raise
an interesting possibility, were FoT members so inclined: perhaps we could
become some sort of "Special Chapter" or "Affiliate" of VTR?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>I take a very 'broad church view' on issues like this,
essentially summarised as follows:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>1. It doesn't really matter how you use your Triumph (or
Standard) and because of that, there should be room in your local or
national club to accommodate your usage preference.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>2. The vehicle parc is getting smaller each year and
current owners are getting older. This largely explains the diminution of
club memberships</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>3. A surprisingly large number of cars will outlive their
enthusiast custodians and will need to have 'a home'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>4. Clubs (national or local) need to recognise this - and
its my perception in the UK that clubs don't adequately do this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>5. There will come a time when the vehicle parc and
custodian base is so small that clubs as they currently stand will probably
not be viable as heretofore. This begs the question</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>6. What plans are national clubs making to address that
inevitable eventuality?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>7. No-one can confidently expect to substantially 'grow
club membership.' The vast majority of cars that will survive are already
known. Barn-Finds will become ever more infrequent</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>With regard to point 6, my perception of the evidence as
it relates to the UK (and probably elsewhere too?) is "nothing at
all." Additionally, for as long as clubs and others continue to provide
'free' technical information on "How to .....?" projects via the internet,
clubs will continue to diminish in size.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Rant off</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Jonmac</FONT></DIV>
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