<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good to hear from you buddy. Sorry about your car, glad you're OK. That was a nasty one. Let me know if you need anything. I have a TR4 frame up by my sport court, slowly turning back into iron ore. Yours if you want it. <div><br><div><div>On Sep 22, 2008, at 9:05 PM, quicktr4 wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I had a bad one last weekend including an ambulance ride to the hospital to check me out. in alittle bit wet conditions my tr4 really stepped out on turn in to turn nine at seattle. very uncharicteristic of my car. natural reaction is to catcth the slide. when it did hook up it sent me strait into the wall at about 60 or 70 mph it was a big hit. all the safety gear did its job and yes i hade a hans on. after this our club is concidering making some device manditory. i dont even have a stiff neck. I am now a strong advicator. The car didnt fair so well both front frame rails bent all the way into the oil pan. you can just imagine the rest.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Jeff Quick </font></div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="Billb@bnj.com" href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Bill Babcock</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="BillDentin@aol.com" href="mailto:BillDentin@aol.com">BillDentin@aol.com</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="fot@autox.team.net" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">Friends of Triumph</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, September 22, 2008 6:30 PM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot] Nomination for FoT membership</div><div><br></div>Sorry to hear about the fatality. We really are playing a rough game here. We had two bad accidents at the SOVREN Fall Finale this weekend. FOTer Jeff Quick hit the wall straight on in his TR4. They took him off in the ambulance on a back board, but he's okay. The car is completely flat across the nose and about a foot shorter. Hard impact, straight in. Could have been a bad one, I'm glad he's OK. I'm pretty sure Jeff wears a HANS device. Another driver pretty much wrote off a very nice Alpha. <div><br></div><div>We get away with a lot because of all the retrofitted safely equipment, but I've met more than a few old time drivers who expressed amazement that we don't have more fatalities. they basically say "those cars were damned dangerous back when we built them, what do you think has changed". <div><br></div><div>What has changed is the safety gear, and I believe in keeping all of mine as up to date as possible. Fresh belts before the expiration date or when they show any damage or have been "exercised" as with a Corvette shoving one self around a bit, Hans device. Good helmet. great roll cage. Other than that, you pays your money and you takes your chances. </div><div><br></div><div>Pat's a great guy, it was a pleasure to meet him last year. Next year is Peyote's fiftieth birthday. Big doings planned. T shirts, peyote buttons, and a new motto: "Pissing off drivers with nicer cars for fifty years"</div><div><br></div><div>I agree, Diane has a fine rear end, in fact a stellar one. Peyote's, however, is a tad lumpy. </div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:32 AM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:BillDentin@aol.com">BillDentin@aol.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><font face="arial,helvetica"><font lang="0" face="Baskerville Old Face" color="#400040" size="3" family="SERIF" ptsize="12">In a message dated 09/22/2008 11:37:23 AM Central Daylight Time,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Billb@bnj.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>writes:<br><br></font><font lang="0" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2" family="SANSSERIF" ptsize="10" back="#ffffff" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br><blockquote type="CITE" style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; ">I thought Tony was already a member or I would have nominated him long ago. Not only does he drive the wheels off the TR250K (and anything else he sits in, except his truck which he drives like a little old lady), but he also maintains it, and the Bill Hart Devin, AND John James's TR4, and he brought Peyote back to life this year, and will finish making it far too pretty over the winter. Yes, he's going to replace the "Aluminum foil sack of walnuts" rear end that I carefully fabricated on my $200 English Wheel. Some people have no respect for amateur bodywork. Like Diane for example, who is paying Tony to replace the rear end.</blockquote><br></font><font lang="0" face="Baskerville Old Face" color="#400040" size="3" family="SERIF" ptsize="12" back="#ffffff" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br>On the Peyote? Diane's rear end is fine.<br><br>I saw Pat Starr at ROAD AMERICA over the week end. He borrowed a trailer and hauled his Morgan (same car he's raced since the 1960s) down to ELVF. He is still a great driver (2:51.892), less than two seconds short of his best lap ever. At the cocktail party Saturday night (Peter Egan spoke) Pat was talking about the Peyote and describing clear plastic spoilers they used to run on the car in the rear. Interesting.<br><br>Bill<br><br>PS...Sad to say...there was another fatality in the second Race Group 2 practice session on Friday. Dr. Surjit Hermon lost control of his 1957 Eastgate (LOTUS XI continuation or replica) and hit a stationary Mini Cooper S parked off course near the apex to Turn 13. High speed (80 mph +/-) impact (sideways). Suspected broken neck. I had raced with this guy many times. He was competent, courteous, never aggressive. He apparently lost control, tried to correct, and went sliding sidways into the Mini. The VSCDA has been running vintage racing events for thirty years and never had a really serious accident, much less a fatality. 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