<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Incidentally, with corn futures at $5.60 a bushel and Soybeans at $12.00 farmers that grow any potential fuel crop are pretty delirious these days, as are farmers in general, since using corn for fuel and other factors seem to have driven food up enough to compete with gasoline as an expense. <div><br></div><div>I remember when farmers were politicking like mad to get the government to invest in ethanol production. Now they're being a lot more quiet since the "green" aspect of alternate fuel production is being given the scrutiny it always deserved. As usual, politically motivated "science" sends us down paths that don't deliver real change. Just politics. I can't help but view people who jump on bandwagons as suckers. </div><div><br></div><div>Assuming climate issues and pollution get worse, I wonder if anyone will remember that the Kyoto accord enabled BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India and China) to capture the lion's share of worldwide manufacturing growth in extremely unregulated environments. Anyone who thinks it was labor costs alone needs to visit a lights out machining facility. Uneconomical and going out of business in the US, but not in China. I wonder why that is? <br><div><br><div><div>On Sep 14, 2008, at 6:27 AM, Michael Porter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><a href="mailto:Group44TR7@aol.com">Group44TR7@aol.com</a> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> As energy scientists search for alternative fuels, one of <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the challenges is finding a fuel source that provides as much energy <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">per gallon as gasoline and diesel.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>Butanol. 95% of the fuel value of gasoline. More octane. Capable of <br>being made with a two-stage fermentation process from all sorts of food <br>wastes, such whey from cheese production....<br><br><br><br>Cheers.<br><br>-- <br><br><br>Michael Porter<br>Roswell, NM<br><br><br>Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....<br><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br><br>Fot mailing list<br>Fot@autox.team.net<br>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(118, 15, 79); font-size: 16px; ">Bill Babcock</span></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Babcock & Jenkins</div><div><a href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Billb@bnj.com</a></div><div>503.936.7660</div><div><a href="http://www.bnj.com">www.bnj.com</a></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000">Editor</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000">Ke Nalu e-Magazine</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><i>Paddlesurfing's Web Journal</i></span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><i><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></i></span></font></div><div><a href="mailto:Bill@kenalu.com">Bill@kenalu.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.kenalu.com">www.kenalu.com</a></div><div>blog: <a href="http://www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog">www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></span></div></span> </div><br></div></div></body></html>