<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I love the guy, he actually makes sense and has some facts to back up his position. <div><br></div><div>Great job on your goats and fuel. I looked around here for sources of fryer oil to convert, but being Portland, everyone that uses a can of crisco to make some fries has a biofuels guy waiting at their doorstop. Biodiesel runs about a 50 cent premium here, and people buy pretty much all of it they can get. Weird. </div><div><br></div><div>A few days ago I was driving behind an older Mercedes Diesel that was fogging for bugs and emitting a smell like rancid french fries. Had biodiesel stickers all over the bumper. I thought, "man, there's a guy doing some great marketing for fuel diversification."</div><div><br></div><div>My friend Cameron Healy also puts his money where his mouth is, driving a diesel newbug, investing in biofuel companies--and I think it's great. Of course he used to own Kettle Chips, so fryer oil was easy to come by. </div><div><br></div><div>I think whey is a welcome when you're milking 10 goats, but my friend John Karamanos owns Sunshine Dairy, who make cottage cheese by the ton every day. For them, whey is a problem. </div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Gasket Works USA wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div align="LEFT"><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0">It is intetersting... My wife has made a buisiness plan for a micro dairy (goat milk). The current trend to develop locally grown food stuffs is becoming more intriguing for a host of reasons. There are many articles in the NY times, WSJ and such. Between our neighbor and us we have about 10 goats milked twice daily. Our good producers make 8+ lbs of milk a day. Most make 1/2 that. The assorted milk products include yogurt, Feta and hard cheese (although these are much harder to make). Many of our friends trade home grown produce for whole raw milk, or pasturized milk. </font></div><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0"><br></font><div align="LEFT"><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0">So, sky photons come down and allow the the chloroplasts to convert some green house Gases (CO2) to sugars and cellulose. the Goats eat the converted photons and make milk. The milk is then converted to Feta and the byproduct is fermented to make alcohol eventually and they cycle continues. </font></div><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0"><br></font><div align="LEFT"><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0">Oh, The whey protein is not bad stuff it may look greenish but, tastes good. Organic growers like this stuff for its nitrogen content.....fertilizer. </font></div><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0"><br></font><div align="LEFT"><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0">Proud owner of 1979 Peugeot diesel that can run on 100 biodiesel from Waste Taco VEgie oil. 40mpg easy.</font></div><div align="LEFT"><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0">I put on extra large rolling radius tires to keep the Rpms low and short shift. Slow but, oh so much fun. Oh, and btw.. verrry comfortable suspension. </font></div><div align="LEFT"><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0"> </font></div><div align="LEFT"><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0">Proud owner of 2008 Honda GX CNG 30-40mpg equiv. ( I wish lived in UTAh... CNG about .070cents/Gallon Equiv there)</font></div><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0"><br></font><div align="LEFT"><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0">Pickens maybe biased but, I like him. </font></div><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0"><br></font><font face="Verdana" size="1" color="#000000" letterspacing="0" kerning="0"><br></font>_______________________________________________<br><a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br><br>Fot mailing list<br>Fot@autox.team.net<br>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot<br><br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(118, 15, 79); font-size: 16px; ">Bill Babcock</span></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Babcock & Jenkins</div><div><a href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Billb@bnj.com</a></div><div>503.936.7660</div><div><a href="http://www.bnj.com">www.bnj.com</a></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000">Editor</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000">Ke Nalu e-Magazine</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><i>Paddlesurfing's Web Journal</i></span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><i><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></i></span></font></div><div><a href="mailto:Bill@kenalu.com">Bill@kenalu.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.kenalu.com">www.kenalu.com</a></div><div>blog: <a href="http://www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog">www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></span></div></span> </div><br></div></body></html>