<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I am, in fact, quite stupidly willing to take that on if everyone agrees that Portland is the right venue. Stupidly, because having already helped to organize the CRC event I know how much work this can be. Since we are in fact an organization without any rules, I'm puzzled about how this gets decided. I guess we should just ask Joe and Kas. What say you guys? And does anyone have an objection? <div><br></div><div>I think a full-sized cutout of Uncle Jack in his leisure suit is a requirement for the event, and should travel to whatever other venues we subsequently pick for the Kastner Kup. </div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 10, 2008, at 6:23 PM, David Talbott wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I suppose we shouldn't presume Kas's comments to be an official pronouncement on his part, but it does sound like Portland might have some potential in a bid to be the host city for the 2009 Kastner Cup. Since Bill Babcock has an obvious connection with the local Convention & Visitors Bureau, not to mention that he's essentially retired, I think nominating him for the position of Event Chair would make perfect sense to get the ball rolling. This is a crucial role, especially if one is to believe that Joe Alexander will be declining such opportunities for a while - or so I thought I heard Jan to suggest last Sunday at the Glen.<br><br>Of course, I'd be delighted to assist Bill in any way I can; however I may need all the time I can muster just to make sure I have a car finished for the event. Given that the track is all of a 7 minute tow from my shop, I'm thinking I wouldn't have too many excuses for not being there.<br><br>And unlike the Glen, the prospects for hurricane-induced weather events are pretty slim in September for this area, in fact it would be tough to pick a better time of the year to be in the NW. Now that I think about it, the picture of Uncle Jack in his polyester leisure suit that someone posted a few weeks back was taken at a balmy Saturday night party at the September CRC event a couple of years ago.<br><br>So what say, do I hear a second for my nomination of Billy B. to lead the charge for PDX 2009?<br><br>DT<br><br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kas Kastner" <<a href="mailto:kaskas@cox.net">kaskas@cox.net</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:Chasgee@aol.com">Chasgee@aol.com</a>>; "Bill Babcock" <<a href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Billb@bnj.com</a>><br>Cc: <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:00 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Glen<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">Portland is a great city, great track an a neat place to have a good time.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">---- Bill Babcock <<a href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Billb@bnj.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">=============<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">As Jeff pointed out, it's Labor Day, not Memorial day. I get those two<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">confused all the time.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Portland International Raceway is an interesting track from a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">technical standpoint, and the CRC is a good race. The track was<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">repaved last year and some corners were changed a bit. You won't find<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">better pavement anywhere. It's easy to run large-scale races there.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">PIR is right on the MAX line (rapid transit trains), so significant<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">others are not stuck at the track--they can go into Portland with<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">minimal effort, and Portland is one of the most accessible cities in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the US. Very compact--you can walk anywhere in downtown. Having been<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">pretty much all over the world and especially all over North America I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">assert that Portland has restaurants, street food, taverns and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">specialty food (like artiisan bread, great bakeries, etc) to rival or<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">surpass any city, including places like Paris, New York City and San<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Francisco. You simply can't find better beer, and our Pinot's stack up<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to the best.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">SOVREN is very strict about racing classifications for it's members,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">but more flexible for outsiders. I'm sure I can work with them to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ensure that anyone that wants to come can race. I'm also pretty sure I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">can get an all-triumph race. The CRC has plenty of track time--it runs<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Friday through Monday with Thursday usually available as an<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">inexpensive test and tune day through the Lotus Club. You can wear<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">yourself and your car out at the CRC.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The All British Field Meet runs the same weekend in the same venue<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(yes, there are sometimes some space problems but we can overflow to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the Pro Pits which are nicer for camping anyway). They have car shows,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">autojumbles, and a big vendor area. It's a well-attended show that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">draws from car clubs all over the coast. There is a short on-track<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">autocross that's kind of a PIA, but I'd like to set up a better and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">longer running autocross in the propit area--we've done that before.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I think PIR is kind of ideal as a west coast venue for the Kastner<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cup. Seattle (Pacific Raceways) is too far from other facilities--it's<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in Kent, Washington--and the major race is the Northwest Historics,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">which is a pretty crowded event. The Portland Historics is an HMSA<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">event, and they're hard to work with on car classifications.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thunderhill is a wonderful track, but it's east of nowhere. Sears<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(Infinion) is fabulous and wonderful Sonoma is close by, but the only<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">likely event is the CSRG Charity Challenge and it's often filled. CSRG<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">is an excellent organization, but they might be a bit tough on car<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">classification. I'm not sure any of the SCCA cars would be allowed to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">run. Laguna is too restricted--they don't have many dates anymore.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">We'd all need sand filters for Willows.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The only limitation at PIR is noise--you'd all need mufflers.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">It's not too early to start planning. How do we get this going?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:35 PM, <a href="mailto:Chasgee@aol.com">Chasgee@aol.com</a> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bill,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Funny you should mention those two venues, because I was discussing<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">this with some So Cal brethren and we came to the same conclusions.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">It is the West coast's turn again and I think Portland would be<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">fantastic. Let me know if I can help organize this.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Chuck Gee<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Blacksmith Racing<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: Bill Babcock <<a href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Billb@bnj.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: Henry Frye <<a href="mailto:henry@henryfrye.com">henry@henryfrye.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:55 am<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Glen<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I'm thinking it's time for the left coast. Maybe Thunderhill? It's a<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">hell of a track, though the surrounding facilities suck. Portland<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">would be great, the Columbia River Classic is the weekend before<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">this SVRA race (Memorial day weekend), and it's a high-track time<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">event. Most folks are sick of racing by the time the Monday races<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">roll around. it also encompasses the All British Field Meet which a<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">lot of Triumph folks attend as well.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I know I could get SOVREN to roll out the red carpet for FOT since I<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">helped to give this race a boost a few years ago. The Saturday at-<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">track party is legenday, an opportunity to get out your vintage<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">duds, and I can commit to a pretty cool FOT party at Casa Babcock.<br></blockquote></blockquote><br><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(118, 15, 79); font-size: 16px; ">Bill Babcock</span></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Babcock & Jenkins</div><div><a href="mailto:Billb@bnj.com">Billb@bnj.com</a></div><div>503.936.7660</div><div><a href="http://www.bnj.com">www.bnj.com</a></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000">Editor</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000">Ke Nalu e-Magazine</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><i>Paddlesurfing's Web Journal</i></span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010000" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><i><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></i></span></font></div><div><a href="mailto:Bill@kenalu.com">Bill@kenalu.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.kenalu.com">www.kenalu.com</a></div><div>blog: <a href="http://www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog">www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></span></div></span> </div><br></div></body></html>