From spiwakd at aol.com  Mon Jun  1 17:24:18 2026
From: spiwakd at aol.com (spiwakd at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 23:24:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Drivers equipment for sale
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 HANS device, current helmet(medium) three-ply drivers suit with FOT logos (used as a spare) size 40 will fit driver up to 6', everything in the photo plus a Hero camera with multiple roll bar mounts. Only used once(blew engine at Summit Point). All for $275 and I pay shipping. Dave Spiwak 570-441=5646
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Wed Jun  3 06:07:39 2026
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2026 12:07:39 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR O-ring for oil cooler adapter
Message-ID: <CH2PR04MB68562FBE797BE35026EEB3FFB4132@CH2PR04MB6856.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Does anybody know where I can get the O-ring/seal that goes between the spin-on-oil adapter and the oil cooler fitting. I got these once before but can't find them again. It is the round adapter.

It measures 2-1/8 ID and 2-3/8 OD



Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

Mike & Becky Moore
6050 Ruhl Road, Fairview, PA 16415
814-323-0698
mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com<mailto:mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com>


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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Wed Jun  3 09:13:12 2026
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2026 09:13:12 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR O-ring for oil cooler adapter
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Michael, you can use NAPA part number 1107

 

Walter Hollowell

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Moore
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2026 6:08 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] TR O-ring for oil cooler adapter

 

Does anybody know where I can get the O-ring/seal that goes between the
spin-on-oil adapter and the oil cooler fitting. I got these once before but
can't find them again. It is the round adapter.

 

It measures 2-1/8 ID and 2-3/8 OD

 

 

 

Thanks, Mike

 

62 TR4, Race car

63 TR4, Street car

 

Mike & Becky Moore

6050 Ruhl Road, Fairview, PA 16415

814-323-0698

 <mailto:mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com> mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com

 

 

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From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 12:48:56 2026
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2026 14:48:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] chassis paint
Message-ID: <CAAGAaPWr2tJ5n8-GDsOb=BQVLLJ-B7k9MYOVLnTZN=kAeBNUAg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All.
 I am ready to paint a GT6 frame and I would like it silver or a shade of
silver. Unfortunately almost all the chassis paints are black. There is one
in the UK that is silver but I don't think I want to deal with trying to
get it here. Any suggestions for possible finding a tintable chip resistant
chassis paint?
                               Thanks.  P.J.
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From dave at microworks.net  Fri Jun  5 19:39:32 2026
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2026 01:39:32 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.
Message-ID: <MN2PR14MB26553CFFE802C2643C3F0A6DB51E2@MN2PR14MB2655.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Last year I asked Henry which Class we should register the TR4 in.  Henry stated...

"I suggest putting yourself in Group 2B - Over 1:47.5. If you break out and go faster, you automatically advance to the next fastest group."

So I registered us in Group 2B.  Looking at the Roster I see LOTS of similar and maybe faster TR4's running in VH 5 which is the Over 1:50 group.

Currently in VH 4 there are just two TR4. Myself and Bob Kramer. The other Triumphs in that group are GT6.

In the under 1:47 VH 3 Class I see Dave Gott, Tony Drews, Chuck Gee and Michael Deweerd in TR4s

Meanwhile in the Over 1:50 Class I see Matt Molson, Brendon and Sean Alexander, Phil Gott and Greg Thompson.

So the question is should I request to be moved to VH 5 or stay in VH 4 and expect that some of the TR4 and the Ambro currently in VH 5 are gonna get bumped up to VH 4 once they start putting down some laps?


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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Jun  5 19:51:57 2026
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2026 01:51:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] chassis paint
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The Colonel?

Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233
________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2026 1:48:56 PM
To: FOT list <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] chassis paint

Hi All.
 I am ready to paint a GT6 frame and I would like it silver or a shade of silver. Unfortunately almost all the chassis paints are black. There is one in the UK that is silver but I don't think I want to deal with trying to get it here. Any suggestions for possible finding a tintable chip resistant chassis paint?
                               Thanks.  P.J.
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From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 20:06:01 2026
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2026 21:06:01 -0500
Subject: [Fot] chassis paint
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Yes Scott. The one and only Colonel Mustard.. soon to be silver and blue .

On Fri, Jun 5, 2026 at 8:52?PM Barr, Scott <sbarr at mccarty-law.com> wrote:

> The Colonel?
>
> Scott Barr
> McCarty Law LLP
> (920) 257-2233
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of McKearn McKearn <
> mckearn2 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2026 1:48:56 PM
> *To:* FOT list <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Fot] chassis paint
>
> Hi All.
>  I am ready to paint a GT6 frame and I would like it silver or a shade of
> silver. Unfortunately almost all the chassis paints are black. There is one
> in the UK that is silver but I don't think I want to deal with trying to
> get it here. Any suggestions for possible finding a tintable chip resistant
> chassis paint?
>                                Thanks.  P.J.
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Sat Jun  6 03:02:17 2026
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2026 09:02:17 +0000
Subject: [Fot] chassis paint
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Nice.  I never fully loved that Saffron color.

Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233
________________________________
From: McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2026 9:06:01 PM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Cc: FOT list <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] chassis paint

Yes Scott. The one and only Colonel Mustard.. soon to be silver and blue .

On Fri, Jun 5, 2026 at 8:52?PM Barr, Scott <sbarr at mccarty-law.com<mailto:sbarr at mccarty-law.com>> wrote:
The Colonel?

Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233
________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com<mailto:mckearn2 at gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2026 1:48:56 PM
To: FOT list <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Fot] chassis paint

Hi All.
 I am ready to paint a GT6 frame and I would like it silver or a shade of silver. Unfortunately almost all the chassis paints are black. There is one in the UK that is silver but I don't think I want to deal with trying to get it here. Any suggestions for possible finding a tintable chip resistant chassis paint?
                               Thanks.  P.J.
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 09:26:34 2026
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2026 08:26:34 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.
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Have you driven Mosport before? For me the competion at Mosport is not the other entries, it?s the track. It?s the most intimidating track I?ve ever raced on, and I suspect I?ve covered more tracks than 99.9% of amateur racers. I wouldn?t spend ten seconds worrying about what group I?m in. I?d be too busy trying to grow a third nut so I could drive the track close to my limit without sitting too long in the car after each session trying to decide if I?m still having fun. Off-camber, blind, downhill turns that you can?t touch your brakes or steer to correct for even a minor error if you?re actually at competitive speed. I loved it, hated it, had the shit scared out of me, and never did a single corner the same way twice. I have no recollection of where I finished in the group I raced with?probably somewhere in the back of the pack. A very unusual place for Peyote, which almost always got put in a group that should have easily beaten it, but almost never did. 


> On Jun 5, 2026, at 6:39?PM, Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net> wrote:
> 
> Last year I asked Henry which Class we should register the TR4 in.  Henry stated?
>  
> ?I suggest putting yourself in Group 2B ? Over 1:47.5. If you break out and go faster, you automatically advance to the next fastest group.?
>  
> So I registered us in Group 2B.  Looking at the Roster I see LOTS of similar and maybe faster TR4?s running in VH 5 which is the Over 1:50 group.
>  
> Currently in VH 4 there are just two TR4. Myself and Bob Kramer. The other Triumphs in that group are GT6.
>  
> In the under 1:47 VH 3 Class I see Dave Gott, Tony Drews, Chuck Gee and Michael Deweerd in TR4s
>  
> Meanwhile in the Over 1:50 Class I see Matt Molson, Brendon and Sean Alexander, Phil Gott and Greg Thompson.
>  
> So the question is should I request to be moved to VH 5 or stay in VH 4 and expect that some of the TR4 and the Ambro currently in VH 5 are gonna get bumped up to VH 4 once they start putting down some laps?
>  
>  
> <image001.jpg> <http://www.microworks.net/>
> Dave Riddle
> Business IT Consulting
> Office: 480.610.8234
> Cell: 602.692.5276
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sat Jun  6 09:35:48 2026
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2026 08:35:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] chassis paint
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Hello,
I use RustOleum over Dupont DP epoxy primer on the frame.  Both in quarts, and through a sprayer.  Rattle can touch-ups are easy and a perfect match and available anywhere.  My TR3 frame in gray and my trailer in silver.  All TR suspension and chassis parts in just RustOleum after media blasting.  Rear axle housing and cover too.  
RustOleum is my go to, for just about everything, except body.  
Roll bar is powder coated as is brake master box and front sway-bar mount.  
 
Dave H.
 

> On 06/05/2026 11:48 AM PDT McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> Hi All. 
>  I am ready to paint a GT6 frame and I would like it silver or a shade of silver. Unfortunately almost all the chassis paints are black. There is one in the UK that is silver but I don't think I want to deal with trying to get it here. Any suggestions for possible finding a tintable chip resistant chassis paint?
>                                Thanks.  P.J.
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From dave at microworks.net  Sat Jun  6 09:44:10 2026
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2026 15:44:10 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.
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Part of my reason to wondering if I should drop back to slower cars rather than worrying about being a chicane for faster cars

Sent from my Mobile Device there could be misspellings.

Dave Riddle
602.692.5276
________________________________
From: Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, 06 June 2026 08:26:34
To: Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net>
Cc: FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.

Have you driven Mosport before? For me the competion at Mosport is not the other entries, it?s the track. It?s the most intimidating track I?ve ever raced on, and I suspect I?ve covered more tracks than 99.9% of amateur racers. I wouldn?t spend ten seconds worrying about what group I?m in. I?d be too busy trying to grow a third nut so I could drive the track close to my limit without sitting too long in the car after each session trying to decide if I?m still having fun. Off-camber, blind, downhill turns that you can?t touch your brakes or steer to correct for even a minor error if you?re actually at competitive speed. I loved it, hated it, had the shit scared out of me, and never did a single corner the same way twice. I have no recollection of where I finished in the group I raced with?probably somewhere in the back of the pack. A very unusual place for Peyote, which almost always got put in a group that should have easily beaten it, but almost never did.


On Jun 5, 2026, at 6:39?PM, Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net> wrote:

Last year I asked Henry which Class we should register the TR4 in.  Henry stated?

?I suggest putting yourself in Group 2B ? Over 1:47.5. If you break out and go faster, you automatically advance to the next fastest group.?

So I registered us in Group 2B.  Looking at the Roster I see LOTS of similar and maybe faster TR4?s running in VH 5 which is the Over 1:50 group.

Currently in VH 4 there are just two TR4. Myself and Bob Kramer. The other Triumphs in that group are GT6.

In the under 1:47 VH 3 Class I see Dave Gott, Tony Drews, Chuck Gee and Michael Deweerd in TR4s

Meanwhile in the Over 1:50 Class I see Matt Molson, Brendon and Sean Alexander, Phil Gott and Greg Thompson.

So the question is should I request to be moved to VH 5 or stay in VH 4 and expect that some of the TR4 and the Ambro currently in VH 5 are gonna get bumped up to VH 4 once they start putting down some laps?


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Business IT Consulting
Office: 480.610.8234
Cell: 602.692.5276
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sat Jun  6 10:27:02 2026
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2026 11:27:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] chassis paint
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I use transstar epoxy for paint jobs that start on bare metal. It?s a very hard and durable DTM. It can chip like any paint. 

On a street car, I top coat it with a stone chip material in wheel wells then shoot that with BC/CC of choice. It will also chip though just a softer finish that will kinda deflect the small stuff w/o chipping. 

So for simplicity on a race car frame just use the epoxy and leave it. Touch it up after a few years of chips. 



https://www.genesisautobodysupply.com/pdf/transtar_tds_6101.pdf?srsltid=AfmBOopfQexNR_EGhteFgUjp9YMYejqUSkHRVWtBCPVkKbj7kXla3bIv
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2026, at 10:42, Barr, Scott <sbarr at mccarty-law.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> The Colonel?
> 
> Scott Barr
> McCarty Law LLP
> (920) 257-2233
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2026 1:48:56 PM
> To: FOT list <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] chassis paint
>  
> Hi All. 
>  I am ready to paint a GT6 frame and I would like it silver or a shade of silver. Unfortunately almost all the chassis paints are black. There is one in the UK that is silver but I don't think I want to deal with trying to get it here. Any suggestions for possible finding a tintable chip resistant chassis paint?
>                                Thanks.  P.J.
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sat Jun  6 10:46:57 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2026 12:46:57 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.
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Dave,

I understand your concerns, but I believe the best thing for everyone to 
do is sit tight until after you get a couple sessions under your belt on 
the Thursday test day. Once you get a better idea of what kind of lap 
times you will be running, that is when we will go back to the race 
director and make group changes. I have no doubt knowing our racers and 
seeing where folks have grouped themselves, we will be making 
adjustments!

There are a lot of details getting ironed out in the background as we 
speak. The last thing VARAC needs at this point is racers who have never 
turned a wheel at the track second guessing their lap times and asking 
to be moved! There will be plenty of time on Thursday after the track 
goes quiet to look at lap times and shuffle the groups as needed.

Henry Frye
KCup Chair - Return to Mosport
860.508.3118

PS. I am out of the country until Tuesday, and have a call scheduled 
next week with VARAC to go over last minute details. Everything is 
falling into place, this is going to be a KCup to remember!

On 2026-06-05 21:39, Dave Riddle wrote:

> Last year I asked Henry which Class we should register the TR4 in.  
> Henry stated?
> 
> "I suggest putting yourself in Group 2B - Over 1:47.5. If you break out 
> and go faster, you automatically advance to the next fastest group."
> 
> So I registered us in Group 2B.  Looking at the Roster I see LOTS of 
> similar and maybe faster TR4's running in VH 5 which is the Over 1:50 
> group.
> 
> Currently in VH 4 there are just two TR4. Myself and Bob Kramer. The 
> other Triumphs in that group are GT6.
> 
> In the under 1:47 VH 3 Class I see Dave Gott, Tony Drews, Chuck Gee and 
> Michael Deweerd in TR4s
> 
> Meanwhile in the Over 1:50 Class I see Matt Molson, Brendon and Sean 
> Alexander, Phil Gott and Greg Thompson.
> 
> So the question is should I request to be moved to VH 5 or stay in VH 4 
> and expect that some of the TR4 and the Ambro currently in VH 5 are 
> gonna get bumped up to VH 4 once they start putting down some laps?
> 
> Business IT Consulting
> 
> Office: 480.610.8234
> 
> Cell: 602.692.5276
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Jun  7 01:19:59 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2026 03:19:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Re:  Classing question for Mosport.
In-Reply-To: <c41851306f65cc0c2530675e5a599f84@tr4racer.com>
References: <MN2PR14MB26553CFFE802C2643C3F0A6DB51E2@MN2PR14MB2655.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
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I meant to send this to the FOT at large.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.
Date: 2026-06-06 12:46
 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com
To: Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net>
Cc: "FOT (fot at autox.team.net)" <fot at autox.team.net>



Dave,

I understand your concerns, but I believe the best thing for everyone to
do is sit tight until after you get a couple sessions under your belt on
the Thursday test day. Once you get a better idea of what kind of lap
times you will be running, that is when we will go back to the race
director and make group changes. I have no doubt knowing our racers and
seeing where folks have grouped themselves, we will be making
adjustments!

There are a lot of details getting ironed out in the background as we
speak. The last thing VARAC needs at this point is racers who have never
turned a wheel at the track second guessing their lap times and asking
to be moved! There will be plenty of time on Thursday after the track
goes quiet to look at lap times and shuffle the groups as needed.

Henry Frye
KCup Chair - Return to Mosport
860.508.3118

PS. I am out of the country until Tuesday, and have a call scheduled
next week with VARAC to go over last minute details. Everything is
falling into place, this is going to be a KCup to remember!

On 2026-06-05 21:39, Dave Riddle wrote:

> Last year I asked Henry which Class we should register the TR4 in.
> Henry stated?
> 
> "I suggest putting yourself in Group 2B - Over 1:47.5. If you break
> out and go faster, you automatically advance to the next fastest
> group."
> 
> So I registered us in Group 2B.  Looking at the Roster I see LOTS of
> similar and maybe faster TR4's running in VH 5 which is the Over 1:50
> group.
> 
> Currently in VH 4 there are just two TR4. Myself and Bob Kramer. The
> other Triumphs in that group are GT6.
> 
> In the under 1:47 VH 3 Class I see Dave Gott, Tony Drews, Chuck Gee
> and Michael Deweerd in TR4s
> 
> Meanwhile in the Over 1:50 Class I see Matt Molson, Brendon and Sean
> Alexander, Phil Gott and Greg Thompson.
> 
> So the question is should I request to be moved to VH 5 or stay in VH
> 4 and expect that some of the TR4 and the Ambro currently in VH 5 are
> gonna get bumped up to VH 4 once they start putting down some laps?
> 
> Business IT Consulting
> 
> Office: 480.610.8234
> 
> Cell: 602.692.5276

From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Jun  7 01:27:07 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2026 03:27:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.
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Message-ID: <8ed6b1691eed10a30a0d8dc834b4da04@tr4racer.com>



I reached out to the Race Director, we will not have the benefit of 
timing and scoring on Thursday. I suggest people prepare to have your 
crew put a stopwatch on you during your test day laps, find out where 
your comfort zone is, and on Thursday after the track goes quiet we can 
figure out where you will fit in best.

I will say it again, I think several of us were quite conservative while 
chosing their run group!

Henry Frye
KCup Chair
860.508.3118

On 2026-06-06 11:44, Dave Riddle wrote:

> Part of my reason to wondering if I should drop back to slower cars 
> rather than worrying about being a chicane for faster cars
> 
> Sent from my Mobile Device there could be misspellings.
> 
> Dave Riddle
> 602.692.5276
> -------------------------
> 
> From: Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, 06 June 2026 08:26:34
> To: Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net>
> Cc: FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.
> 
> Have you driven Mosport before? For me the competion at Mosport is not 
> the other entries, it's the track. It's the most intimidating track 
> I've ever raced on, and I suspect I've covered more tracks than 99.9% 
> of amateur racers. I wouldn't spend ten seconds worrying about what 
> group I'm in. I'd be too busy trying to grow a third nut so I could 
> drive the track close to my limit without sitting too long in the car 
> after each session trying to decide if I'm still having fun. 
> Off-camber, blind, downhill turns that you can't touch your brakes or 
> steer to correct for even a minor error if you're actually at 
> competitive speed. I loved it, hated it, had the shit scared out of me, 
> and never did a single corner the same way twice. I have no 
> recollection of where I finished in the group I raced with--probably 
> somewhere in the back of the pack. A very unusual place for Peyote, 
> which almost always got put in a group that should have easily beaten 
> it, but almost never did.
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2026, at 6:39?PM, Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Last year I asked Henry which Class we should register the TR4 in.  
>> Henry stated...
>> 
>> "I suggest putting yourself in Group 2B - Over 1:47.5. If you break 
>> out and go faster, you automatically advance to the next fastest 
>> group."
>> 
>> So I registered us in Group 2B.  Looking at the Roster I see LOTS of 
>> similar and maybe faster TR4's running in VH 5 which is the Over 1:50 
>> group.
>> 
>> Currently in VH 4 there are just two TR4. Myself and Bob Kramer. The 
>> other Triumphs in that group are GT6.
>> 
>> In the under 1:47 VH 3 Class I see Dave Gott, Tony Drews, Chuck Gee 
>> and Michael Deweerd in TR4s
>> 
>> Meanwhile in the Over 1:50 Class I see Matt Molson, Brendon and Sean 
>> Alexander, Phil Gott and Greg Thompson.
>> 
>> So the question is should I request to be moved to VH 5 or stay in VH 
>> 4 and expect that some of the TR4 and the Ambro currently in VH 5 are 
>> gonna get bumped up to VH 4 once they start putting down some laps?
>> 
>> <image001.jpg> [1]
>> Dave Riddle
>> Business IT Consulting
>> Office: 480.610.8234
>> Cell: 602.692.5276
>> eMail: dave at microworks.net
>> Website: http://www.microworks.net [1]
>> <image002.png> [2]<image003.png> [3]<image004.png> [4]<image005.png> 
>> [5]
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com [6]
>> 
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> 
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From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 07:28:08 2026
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 09:28:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] chassis paint
In-Reply-To: <108073015.220104.1780760148342@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CAAGAaPWr2tJ5n8-GDsOb=BQVLLJ-B7k9MYOVLnTZN=kAeBNUAg@mail.gmail.com>
 <108073015.220104.1780760148342@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CAAGAaPU6Kq=iiDukFTfaLWUs+cZ+3qun0UN+xyTZD75og-PMfw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the replies..

On Sat, Jun 6, 2026 at 11:35?AM DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hello,
> I use RustOleum over Dupont DP epoxy primer on the frame.  Both in quarts,
> and through a sprayer.  Rattle can touch-ups are easy and a perfect match
> and available anywhere.  My TR3 frame in gray and my trailer in silver.
> All TR suspension and chassis parts in just RustOleum after media
> blasting.  Rear axle housing and cover too.
> RustOleum is my go to, for just about everything, except body.
> Roll bar is powder coated as is brake master box and front sway-bar
> mount.
>
> Dave H.
>
>
> On 06/05/2026 11:48 AM PDT McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi All.
>  I am ready to paint a GT6 frame and I would like it silver or a shade of
> silver. Unfortunately almost all the chassis paints are black. There is one
> in the UK that is silver but I don't think I want to deal with trying to
> get it here. Any suggestions for possible finding a tintable chip resistant
> chassis paint?
>                                Thanks.  P.J.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Jun  7 09:15:15 2026
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 11:15:15 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.
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From elvisandi at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  7 21:40:10 2026
From: elvisandi at yahoo.com (Connie Henderson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Are you receiving?
In-Reply-To: <BED24F54-DA34-48BD-B806-05E8AEF812A4@swcp.com>
References: <BED24F54-DA34-48BD-B806-05E8AEF812A4@swcp.com>
Message-ID: <5FBA47DE-1642-48E7-9DE1-7639C3D7BB10@yahoo.com>

?
>> 
>> This is what I?ve been trying to post since May 27.
>> Maybe THIS one will work.
>> 
>> And if this was KCC (K Cup Canada) weekend who won?
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> Has my unexcused absence resulted in getting bumped from the list?
>> Apparently I can send but not receive.
>> I?ve lots of catching up with many (all?) of you.
>> 
>> All for now,
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>> TR4 #3.14 Purple (Krylons premiere ?Wild Plum? rattlecans)
>> AKA - Plum Pi
>> Golden NM
>> 505-553-1734
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From elvisandi at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  7 21:53:06 2026
From: elvisandi at yahoo.com (Connie Henderson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2026 21:53:06 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Are You Receiving?
References: <1DF28476-9DFA-4BBA-8D69-F36351A53803.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1DF28476-9DFA-4BBA-8D69-F36351A53803@yahoo.com>

This is what I?ve been trying to post since May 27.
Maybe THIS one will work.

And if this was KCC (K Cup Canada) weekend who won?


Hello all,
Has my unexcused absence resulted in getting bumped from the list?
Apparently I can send but not receive.
I?ve lots of catching up with many (all?) of you.

All for now,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
TR4 #3.14 Purple (Krylons premiere ?Wild Plum? rattlecans)
AKA - Plum Pi
Golden NM
505-553-1734
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  8 10:38:42 2026
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 16:38:42 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Paging TR3 driver Rick McCurdy
Message-ID: <SJ5PPF8C2F678BA05375F5AAFABAB3EBF42BA1C2@SJ5PPF8C2F678BA.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Rick, shoot me an email if you are on the list.  trmarty at hotmail.com

Thanks,
Marty Sukey
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From mark.l.craig at outlook.com  Mon Jun  8 15:54:19 2026
From: mark.l.craig at outlook.com (Mark Craig)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 21:54:19 +0000
Subject: [Fot] AMB Transponder ???
Message-ID: <CH3PR12MB89119066C86FC4521AD082E3DB1C2@CH3PR12MB8911.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Hey all Triumph Racers!!
Anyone have a non-subscription AMB transponder they don't need anymore?

Mark L. Craig
417 Briksbury Drive
Franklin, TN 37067
615-347-0260

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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Tue Jun  9 04:41:34 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2026 06:41:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] This is how we are going to handle getting everybody in the
 right class!
In-Reply-To: <8ed6b1691eed10a30a0d8dc834b4da04@tr4racer.com>
References: <MN2PR14MB26553CFFE802C2643C3F0A6DB51E2@MN2PR14MB2655.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
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I'm back on home turf after 9 days abroad, full steam ahead on planning!

I've gone back and forth with Ted Michalos, VARAC's Race Director, Ted 
is the guy managing the Classing issue. Here is how we are going to make 
sure everybody is as close as possible to where they need to be, and 
make Ted's (and my) life easier!

Everybody who has not run Mosport for some time is required to run the 
test day. I believe Bill Babcock's comment cements the rationale behind 
that! Racers will want to find someone to put a stopwatch on one of 
their later sessions on Thursday, or if you use an in-car lap timer, 
perfect! Another scenario is run your in-car camera and put a stopwatch 
on the playback. Once you have experienced the track and have some lap 
times, find me in the paddock. If you still have questions, I am happy 
to talk them through with you. I can help you decide what group you 
should start in. I will collect everyone's request for a group change 
and present them all at once to Ted. I will mark up a spreadsheet and my 
intention is to get it into Ted's hands no more than one hour after the 
track goes quiet on Thursday.

Practice and qualifying will take place on Friday. As you figure out how 
to find more time on track, hopefully you will bust out of your bracket. 
That is a good thing! If you want/need to move groups, you will need to 
find Ted and request to be changed.

Ted will be broadcasting some further instructions through 
MotorsportsReg shortly, they should jive for the most part with my 
instructions here.

Stay tuned, more to come.

Henry Frye
KCup Chair
860.508.3118


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Fot] Classing question for Mosport.


I reached out to the Race Director, we will not have the benefit of
timing and scoring on Thursday. I suggest people prepare to have your
crew put a stopwatch on you during your test day laps, find out where
your comfort zone is, and on Thursday after the track goes quiet we can
figure out where you will fit in best.

I will say it again, I think several of us were quite conservative while
chosing their run group!


From lymanazhd at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  9 12:58:41 2026
From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 11:58:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] VARAC tech sheet
References: <AC14BB65-EB6A-496B-A2FE-973DC54E3BDA.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AC14BB65-EB6A-496B-A2FE-973DC54E3BDA@yahoo.com>

Is there a PDF for VARAC GP ?Tech Sheet? to print and prepare for next week at MoSport?
Searched all Google info.
Sent from my iPhone

From jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 15:03:51 2026
From: jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 21:03:51 +0000
Subject: [Fot] I need some help for the upcoming Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <MN2PR02MB5805B467D9100E35D9FC80A7F61D2@MN2PR02MB5805.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Many of you know Bruce Stutzman and what the Western PA Triumph Association has done in support of previous Kastner Cups. For those who don't know, WPTA has been a significant monetary supporter of the Kastner Cup in the past, and we are again this year.

Bruce broke his left ankle a few weeks ago and is in a boot. He wants to attend but needs some Paddock transportation. I can help him get around the track to view from special locations. Carts are not permitted outside of the Paddock.

I've exhausted my attempt to rent a golf cart from a local Canadian rental agency. They require an insurance policy and we've been told our Auto and Homeowners policies will not cover their requirements in Canada.

I've also investigated our club insurance via VTR and a cart is not covered in Canada.

Will any Kastner Cup attendees be bringing a golf cart that he (we) could use when it's not being used by you of course.

Thanks in advance if someone can help Bruce attend.

Jerry Van Vlack.
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Tue Jun  9 15:52:52 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2026 17:52:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VARAC tech sheet
In-Reply-To: <AC14BB65-EB6A-496B-A2FE-973DC54E3BDA@yahoo.com>
References: <AC14BB65-EB6A-496B-A2FE-973DC54E3BDA.ref@yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1e35b088755e21d2d7f16db9aa013edb@tr4racer.com>

The race director told me he is preparing an email blast on tech and the 
whole bracket business, so stay tuned.

But my recollection is the tech sheet is provided by the nice folks from 
tech when you get your sticker.

On 2026-06-09 14:58, Lyman Scherer wrote:
> Is there a PDF for VARAC GP ?Tech Sheet? to print and prepare for next
> week at MoSport?
> Searched all Google info.
> Sent from my iPhone
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From jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 11:20:07 2026
From: jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 17:20:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] I need some help for the upcoming Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR02MB5805B467D9100E35D9FC80A7F61D2@MN2PR02MB5805.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
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Problem resolved. We have rented a cart from an alternate rental agency.

See everyone in a few weeks.
JVV
________________________________
From: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2026 5:03 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: I need some help for the upcoming Kastner Cup

Many of you know Bruce Stutzman and what the Western PA Triumph Association has done in support of previous Kastner Cups. For those who don't know, WPTA has been a significant monetary supporter of the Kastner Cup in the past, and we are again this year.

Bruce broke his left ankle a few weeks ago and is in a boot. He wants to attend but needs some Paddock transportation. I can help him get around the track to view from special locations. Carts are not permitted outside of the Paddock.

I've exhausted my attempt to rent a golf cart from a local Canadian rental agency. They require an insurance policy and we've been told our Auto and Homeowners policies will not cover their requirements in Canada.

I've also investigated our club insurance via VTR and a cart is not covered in Canada.

Will any Kastner Cup attendees be bringing a golf cart that he (we) could use when it's not being used by you of course.

Thanks in advance if someone can help Bruce attend.

Jerry Van Vlack.
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Wed Jun 10 13:27:45 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 15:27:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tech for the KCup at Mosport
Message-ID: <fd69149dde27216efd815dbe128bea45@tr4racer.com>

I just worked out with Race Director Ted Michalos how we are going to 
manage tech for next week.

As the vast majority of us will be arriving on Wednesday to run the 
Thursday test day, Ted will arrange for a scrutineer (that's Canadian 
for tech inspector) to come down to us. We are getting a roving tech 
inspector for Wednesday only. Tech is officially open from 5:30 to 8:00, 
I am not sure when or for how long they can spare their scrutineer.

Here's the good news. Have you run your race car at least once this 
year? Cars with a signed/stamped logbook page showing you passed tech 
for an event in 2026 will not require inspecting. This does not need to 
be an annual tech, just prove you passed tech for your last event and 
that event was in 2026. You will need to show your helmet, but not your 
other safety gear. VARAC is still accepting Snell 2015 helmets this 
year. The roving scrutineer will be able to process the quick tech (no 
car inspection) and the full tech in your paddock space.

Tech is NOT required to run test day. If you arrive too late on 
Wednesday for tech, or Thursday morning, you can run your full test day 
without the event tech, but will need to plan on making time on 
Thursday. Historically, tech is very busy at this event as it is the 
first event for many Canadian racers.

It's all coming together!

Henry Frye
KCup chair
860.508.3118

From bill at ponostyle.com  Wed Jun 10 14:35:11 2026
From: bill at ponostyle.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 13:35:11 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Less than a month to go before the Kastner Cup at
 Mosport!!!
In-Reply-To: <547bc46ddb3ae9c7c9d5a16f302daf9c@tr4racer.com>
References: <547bc46ddb3ae9c7c9d5a16f302daf9c@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <64FF39A1-7D07-4211-8EA8-FEBDCD5ED03C@ponostyle.com>

Nice, yeah, that about sums it up, except for that whole ?grow a third testicle? thing. One and two are also off-camber. So if you touch your brakes anywhere close to race speed, you?ll lose a lot of time?mostly because you?ll be in the dirt, going backwards. You?ll notice brakes are mentioned only once without the words moderate, confidence, or no in front of it. I think when I finally got up to a reasonable speed, I touched the brake twice.  I love thinking about that track. I mentioned it last night during dinner, and Diane started laughing. One of my daughters is visiting, and Diane said, ?You know how when he comes in after a session, he jumps out of the car and is all excited. When he came in after a session at Mosport, he sat in the car for five minutes, and when he finally got out, he was all somber and grumpy.? I don?t think I was grumpy; I loved the track. It just requires a lot of thinking. It?s one of a kind. I don?t know how anyone has the nerve to run it on a motorcycle. 

If you haven?t driven Mosport, you have a treat coming, and it will change you a bit. Watch Henry?s video four or five times. Realize that wide-angle action cameras make hills look flat. 1 and 2 look like gentle downhill turns?they are not. Turn 5A looks fairly flat?it looks as steep as a wall when you?re approaching it. I used less and less brakes for 5A?Peyote used the momentum well and worked best with its ass sliding a bit into 5B. Watch the difference in Henry?s steering correction between laps 1 and 2 and the rest of the laps. Hit the crest in the right spot and the right angle, and you?re golden. If you miss the magic spot, lift on the throttle right away because you can?t make adjustments anywhere near the apex and expect to stay on the track.

Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On May 25, 2026, at 3:23?AM, yellow04 at tr4racer.com wrote:
> 
> It's not too late to sign up for the 2026 Kastner Cup, being held at the famous Grand Prix track outside of Toronto, The Canadian Tire Motorsports Park, formerly known as Mosport on June 18 through 21, 2026.
> 
> I posted this to the FOT back in November, my in-car video from last year that shows how I get around Mosport. Some fun battles with a Lotus 7 to boot.
> 
> https://youtu.be/sASQejuL_ko
> 
> Highlights of how I get around Mosport:
> 
> Turn 1, no brakes, blind entry, downhill right hander
> Turn 2, no brakes, blind entry, uphill, then steep downhill, double apex left hander
> Turn 3, moderate brakes, decreasing radius right hander
> Turn 4, steep downhill, more of a kink, go as fast as you dare
> Turn 5A, heavy brakes, uphill right, immediately followed by
> Turn 5B, downhill right, get it right for longest straight on course
> Turns 6 and 7, kinks in back straight, wide open
> Turn 8, confidence brake, very very fast right hand sweeper
> Turn 9, moderate brakes, left hander, focus on setting up for 10
> Turn 10, confidence or no brakes, right hander leading to start/finish - much like the last corner @ Watkins Glen
> 
> Turns 1, 2 and 8 are where the good lap times are made, but screw up 5B and your lap time will suffer immensely.
> 
> The Turn 5 complex is named Moss Corner, as Sir Stirling himself apparently had input on making it a two-part corner. If you are familiar with Virgina International Raceway, it is similar to the Oak Tree complex, just scaled down with elevation change. Oak Tree at VIR is flat, Moss Corner at Mosport is anything but!
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jun 11 06:24:01 2026
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2026 08:24:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup at Mosport!!! Paddock parking?
In-Reply-To: <64FF39A1-7D07-4211-8EA8-FEBDCD5ED03C@ponostyle.com>
References: <64FF39A1-7D07-4211-8EA8-FEBDCD5ED03C@ponostyle.com>
Message-ID: <C350E288-5AF2-490B-8B59-3C1203306C6A@me.com>

I might have missed this ? seem to have an issue getting FOT emails these days.
Is there designated parking for the Triumph racers or a preferred paddock area?
I?m a newbie to Mosport so I?ll be arriving Wednesday and looking for guidance.
Thanks, Scott
> On Jun 10, 2026, at 4:39?PM, Ponostyle <bill at ponostyle.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Nice, yeah, that about sums it up, except for that whole ?grow a third testicle? thing. One and two are also off-camber. So if you touch your brakes anywhere close to race speed, you?ll lose a lot of time?mostly because you?ll be in the dirt, going backwards. You?ll notice brakes are mentioned only once without the words moderate, confidence, or no in front of it. I think when I finally got up to a reasonable speed, I touched the brake twice.  I love thinking about that track. I mentioned it last night during dinner, and Diane started laughing. One of my daughters is visiting, and Diane said, ?You know how when he comes in after a session, he jumps out of the car and is all excited. When he came in after a session at Mosport, he sat in the car for five minutes, and when he finally got out, he was all somber and grumpy.? I don?t think I was grumpy; I loved the track. It just requires a lot of thinking. It?s one of a kind. I don?t know how anyone has the nerve to run it on a motorcycle. 
> 
> If you haven?t driven Mosport, you have a treat coming, and it will change you a bit. Watch Henry?s video four or five times. Realize that wide-angle action cameras make hills look flat. 1 and 2 look like gentle downhill turns?they are not. Turn 5A looks fairly flat?it looks as steep as a wall when you?re approaching it. I used less and less brakes for 5A?Peyote used the momentum well and worked best with its ass sliding a bit into 5B. Watch the difference in Henry?s steering correction between laps 1 and 2 and the rest of the laps. Hit the crest in the right spot and the right angle, and you?re golden. If you miss the magic spot, lift on the throttle right away because you can?t make adjustments anywhere near the apex and expect to stay on the track.
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
> 
>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:23?AM, yellow04 at tr4racer.com wrote:
>> 
>> It's not too late to sign up for the 2026 Kastner Cup, being held at the famous Grand Prix track outside of Toronto, The Canadian Tire Motorsports Park, formerly known as Mosport on June 18 through 21, 2026.
>> 
>> I posted this to the FOT back in November, my in-car video from last year that shows how I get around Mosport. Some fun battles with a Lotus 7 to boot.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/sASQejuL_ko
>> 
>> Highlights of how I get around Mosport:
>> 
>> Turn 1, no brakes, blind entry, downhill right hander
>> Turn 2, no brakes, blind entry, uphill, then steep downhill, double apex left hander
>> Turn 3, moderate brakes, decreasing radius right hander
>> Turn 4, steep downhill, more of a kink, go as fast as you dare
>> Turn 5A, heavy brakes, uphill right, immediately followed by
>> Turn 5B, downhill right, get it right for longest straight on course
>> Turns 6 and 7, kinks in back straight, wide open
>> Turn 8, confidence brake, very very fast right hand sweeper
>> Turn 9, moderate brakes, left hander, focus on setting up for 10
>> Turn 10, confidence or no brakes, right hander leading to start/finish - much like the last corner @ Watkins Glen
>> 
>> Turns 1, 2 and 8 are where the good lap times are made, but screw up 5B and your lap time will suffer immensely.
>> 
>> The Turn 5 complex is named Moss Corner, as Sir Stirling himself apparently had input on making it a two-part corner. If you are familiar with Virgina International Raceway, it is similar to the Oak Tree complex, just scaled down with elevation change. Oak Tree at VIR is flat, Moss Corner at Mosport is anything but!
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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From tedtsimx at bright.net  Thu Jun 11 12:55:13 2026
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2026 14:55:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Racequip racing shoes for sale
Message-ID: <0af08102-f371-4129-a6b4-f2675a358e6d@bright.net>

Hello list. I have a used 1 race pair of Racequip shoes for sale. They 
were wrong size but needed a set ASAP.? New current price is $101.? 
Asking $75 + shipping. Pictures attached. Thanks and good luck to all at 
Kastner Cup. Ted

-- 
Ted Schumacher
tedtsimx at bright.net
http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
305 S. Jefferson St.
Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada)
Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022
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From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 14:41:19 2026
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:41:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] GT6 Interior
Message-ID: <CAAGAaPWs+SpYa-G+tt+_fa202Cj5yOh03+oOQ2RNtKVUFdCokg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi friends.
  If anyone has recently (or ever) installed a GT6 headliner. I could use a
little advice. The last time (and first time) I did that job was 2004 so
I've forgotten most of what I learned the hard way.  BAsically I need to
know what adhesive to use and do I or do I not need to remove the
windshield to wrap the front edge??Any other tips or tricks would be
welcomed.
                                   Thanks. P.J.
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Fri Jun 12 07:40:17 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 09:40:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Driving Mosport, follow-up on Bill Babcock's post
In-Reply-To: <64FF39A1-7D07-4211-8EA8-FEBDCD5ED03C@ponostyle.com>
References: <547bc46ddb3ae9c7c9d5a16f302daf9c@tr4racer.com>
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Great feedback, thanks Bill!

I wholeheartedly agree with you about 5B. It is one of those corners you 
pitch the car into to get a nice little slide going, so you can mash the 
accelerator way early. If you just drive around the corner, you are much 
slower on the accelerator as you are trying to keep the rear end under 
you.

Another tip I am going to throw out there is how imperative it is to hit 
the first apex on Turn 2. See the attachment, a screen grab from my 
in-car camera. It is easy to spot, so many cars have dropped wheels off 
the pavement that they had to put in a patch. It's easy to see, not easy 
to touch!

Next email, our paddock space!

Henry
860.508.3118

On 2026-06-10 16:35, Ponostyle wrote:

> Nice, yeah, that about sums it up, except for that whole "grow a third 
> testicle" thing. One and two are also off-camber. So if you touch your 
> brakes anywhere close to race speed, you'll lose a lot of time--mostly 
> because you'll be in the dirt, going backwards. You'll notice brakes 
> are mentioned only once without the words moderate, confidence, or no 
> in front of it. I think when I finally got up to a reasonable speed, I 
> touched the brake twice.  I love thinking about that track. I mentioned 
> it last night during dinner, and Diane started laughing. One of my 
> daughters is visiting, and Diane said, "You know how when he comes in 
> after a session, he jumps out of the car and is all excited. When he 
> came in after a session at Mosport, he sat in the car for five minutes, 
> and when he finally got out, he was all somber and grumpy." I don't 
> think I was grumpy; I loved the track. It just requires a lot of 
> thinking. It's one of a kind. I don't know how anyone has the nerve to 
> run it on a motorcycle.
> 
> If you haven't driven Mosport, you have a treat coming, and it will 
> change you a bit. Watch Henry's video four or five times. Realize that 
> wide-angle action cameras make hills look flat. 1 and 2 look like 
> gentle downhill turns--they are not. Turn 5A looks fairly flat--it 
> looks as steep as a wall when you're approaching it. I used less and 
> less brakes for 5A--Peyote used the momentum well and worked best with 
> its ass sliding a bit into 5B. Watch the difference in Henry's steering 
> correction between laps 1 and 2 and the rest of the laps. Hit the crest 
> in the right spot and the right angle, and you're golden. If you miss 
> the magic spot, lift on the throttle right away because you can't make 
> adjustments anywhere near the apex and expect to stay on the track.
> 
> Bill Babcock
> 
> _Beach Bum_
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
> 
>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:23?AM, yellow04 at tr4racer.com wrote:
>> It's not too late to sign up for the 2026 Kastner Cup, being held at 
>> the famous Grand Prix track outside of Toronto, The Canadian Tire 
>> Motorsports Park, formerly known as Mosport on June 18 through 21, 
>> 2026.
>> 
>> I posted this to the FOT back in November, my in-car video from last 
>> year that shows how I get around Mosport. Some fun battles with a 
>> Lotus 7 to boot.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/sASQejuL_ko
>> 
>> Highlights of how I get around Mosport:
>> 
>> Turn 1, no brakes, blind entry, downhill right hander
>> Turn 2, no brakes, blind entry, uphill, then steep downhill, double 
>> apex left hander
>> Turn 3, moderate brakes, decreasing radius right hander
>> Turn 4, steep downhill, more of a kink, go as fast as you dare
>> Turn 5A, heavy brakes, uphill right, immediately followed by
>> Turn 5B, downhill right, get it right for longest straight on course
>> Turns 6 and 7, kinks in back straight, wide open
>> Turn 8, confidence brake, very very fast right hand sweeper
>> Turn 9, moderate brakes, left hander, focus on setting up for 10
>> Turn 10, confidence or no brakes, right hander leading to start/finish 
>> - much like the last corner @ Watkins Glen
>> 
>> Turns 1, 2 and 8 are where the good lap times are made, but screw up 
>> 5B and your lap time will suffer immensely.
>> 
>> The Turn 5 complex is named Moss Corner, as Sir Stirling himself 
>> apparently had input on making it a two-part corner. If you are 
>> familiar with Virgina International Raceway, it is similar to the Oak 
>> Tree complex, just scaled down with elevation change. Oak Tree at VIR 
>> is flat, Moss Corner at Mosport is anything but!
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Fri Jun 12 09:53:21 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 11:53:21 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Paddock at the Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <ac5f60e7a2d06ac4bafec3086d8c4338@tr4racer.com>

We have been assigned what I consider the best paddock space at the 
track, Paddock B. It is identified in the email everyone should have 
received yesterday from Race Director Ted Michalos. Naturally the area 
is not large, and we are expected to pack in tight and get the vast 
majority of our cars there. I asked for the actual measurements several 
times but never got them, so I was not able to lay out the paddock with 
assigned spaces. For those of you who are familiar with the area, I was 
just told the abandoned emergency vehicles that have been occupying 
space there for years have been removed!

I have been told that no one, including me, will be able to get up to 
the paddock space before 5PM at the earliest. Official load in time 
starts at 5:30. After registering, we will be directed to a large space 
adjacent the lower paddock for queueing up. It will make life easier if 
we can all queue up together in the lower paddock, so when our area is 
released we can have an orderly procession up the hill and not lose 
anybody!

Of the 32 cars we are expecting, I believe 23 are required to run test 
day on Thursday. I assume that means the vast majority of us will arrive 
on Wednesday, so the load in will be interesting, to say the least. 
Please plan on using the paddock space primarily for cars, use the grass 
perimeter for camping wherever possible. Everyone's patience is much 
appreciated!

We are currently expecting about 32 cars. I am not sure if we will all 
fit in Paddock B, there is overflow paddock space just up the hill in 
adjacent Paddock A. If we need to use some of that space, so be it.

Regarding camping at the track, ABSOLUTELY NO FIRES ALLOWED. You will be 
asked to leave immediately if you try the campfire thing.

Remember, the track puts on a dinner on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, 
so plan your food accordingly. Also, there is live entertainment every 
night as well, and the bands will be playing in the main tent which is 
right next to our paddock area. I will apologize now, you can hear the 
band from our paddock when they are playing. Historically, on Saturday 
night the Mudmen take the stage, they have quite a following and are 
certainly entertaining!

There is no electric service available, if you need power plan on 
bringing a generator. Please be considerate of your neighbors when 
running your generator!

Last item, for those of us camping at the track, consider staying over 
in the paddock on Sunday evening. Many of us do just that, and it is a 
nice way to take your time breaking down and packing, have a relaxing 
meal, then make it an early night. The ride home after a good sleep is 
always better in my book.

We are getting close! See everyone next week!

Henry Frye
KCup Chair
860.508.3118

From lymanazhd at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 13 11:25:36 2026
From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2026 13:25:36 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Aluminum valve cover nut
References: <B344C1FF-A535-4ECE-8561-48EADF5CF761.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B344C1FF-A535-4ECE-8561-48EADF5CF761@yahoo.com>

Anyone know source for this nut??
Need 2 for spare race engine.
Will be at MoSport with #65 TR4
Lyman.

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 16:53:39 2026
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2026 18:53:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New schedule for next weekend
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVa=60edken-XAN5u=pSHHx0TWiJaDgrLEZpY+ggaxEPVg@mail.gmail.com>

A new schedule was just sent out for next weekend. The K Cup is the same
time, right after lunch on Saturday but the MG-Triumph (Frank Mount) is now
just before lunch, with the K Cup right after lunch.

I see the Sunday Triumph Reunion race now has a worthy new name.

See you guys in a few days.

mike h

Newest schedule
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/67d8847c915b20765b9c858c/t/6a24038ce62a177a7e2c9485/1780745100094/VVGP2026TrackSchedule_Rev5.pdf
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