From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  1 09:41:51 2026
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2026 11:41:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tire Rules for 2026 Kastner Cup - Return to Mosport
In-Reply-To: <0e86342a3f16e9a789cedfade268a763@tr4racer.com>
References: <0e86342a3f16e9a789cedfade268a763@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <98EA882D-5B23-4FAF-8057-2ACC2CB69DC4@gmail.com>

Hi Henry,

Will the track allow us to leave our stuff at the track so we can hook up and leave on Monday?

Chuck

> On Dec 31, 2025, at 11:43?AM, Henry Frye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I just got word from the race director of VARAC regarding acceptable tires for the 24th running for the Kastner Cup.
> 
> "We allow cars to run as prepped to satisfy their "home club" rules at the VGP.  If you allow slicks on vintage cars and it passes your tech, then we'll allow it."
> 
> Last reminder, when the ball drops tonight in Times Square, the early bird registration opportunity closes! Why don't you join the 33 Triumph racers who have already taken advantage!
> 
> www.msreg.com/2026-VARAC-VGP
> 
> Henry Frye
> KCup chair - Return to Mosport
> 860.508.3118(c)
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jan  1 09:53:11 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2026 11:53:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tire Rules for 2026 Kastner Cup - Return to Mosport
In-Reply-To: <98EA882D-5B23-4FAF-8057-2ACC2CB69DC4@gmail.com>
References: <0e86342a3f16e9a789cedfade268a763@tr4racer.com>
 <98EA882D-5B23-4FAF-8057-2ACC2CB69DC4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9e2db65eaf34880dafe019413fdceb48@tr4racer.com>

Chuck,

The track is happy to have racers spend Sunday night in the paddock to 
get a fresh start for the tow home. Several of us have been doing this 
for years.

Keep in ming the track is always rented out that following Monday, so as 
we are pulling out early Monday morning the next group is always 
filtering into the paddock. As long as you are planning on an early 
start Monday morning, you will be fine!

Henry Frye
KCup chair - Return to Mosport
860.508.3118(c)

On 2026-01-01 11:41, Chuck Gee wrote:
> Hi Henry,
> 
> Will the track allow us to leave our stuff at the track so we can hook
> up and leave on Monday?
> 
> Chuck
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2025, at 11:43?AM, Henry Frye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I just got word from the race director of VARAC regarding acceptable 
>> tires for the 24th running for the Kastner Cup.
>> 
>> "We allow cars to run as prepped to satisfy their "home club" rules at 
>> the VGP.  If you allow slicks on vintage cars and it passes your tech, 
>> then we'll allow it."
>> 
>> Last reminder, when the ball drops tonight in Times Square, the early 
>> bird registration opportunity closes! Why don't you join the 33 
>> Triumph racers who have already taken advantage!
>> 
>> www.msreg.com/2026-VARAC-VGP

From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jan  1 11:08:38 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2026 13:08:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Early registration for the 2026 Kastner Cup has closed,
 but oh my...
Message-ID: <2cff7b709c82410bad5097627250192a@tr4racer.com>

There has been a whirlwind of activity on the 2026 Kastner Cup - Return 
to Mosport. With early registration closing, several of our racers got 
in under the wire for the discount. The entry list to date is quite 
impressive. We have 40 drivers signed up bringing 42 Triumphs to the 
event. Thanks to Mike Deweerd and Bryan Brazelton for signing up two 
cars each!

Those of us who are regulars at the VARAC Vintage Grand Prix are well 
aware of Rocco Marciello, he is a VARAC regular and drives a wicked fast 
TR7 coupe. As the motivation under the bonnet comes from a Chevrolet V8, 
he isn't eligible to run for the Kastner Cup, but he will be 
participating with us. Stay tuned for details!

Many thanks to all who signed up early. Those who waited will not get 
the benefit of the C$100 discount, but you are still doing us all a 
favor by entering now. It greatly helps in planning.

Here's where we stand on entries:

Kastner Cup 2026 - entries as of 1/1/2026

1	Vic Schuster	Ambro
2	Brendan Alexander	Ambro
3	John Frymark	GT6
4	John Dolan	GT6
5	Jason Sukey	GT6
6	Scott Janzen	GT6
7	Stewart Wigg	GT6
8	Tom Reiss	GT6
9	Brian Schirano	GT6
10	Rod Pierce	Spitfire
11	Dave Cutter	Spitfire
12	Mike Harmuth	Spitfire
13	Kallie Sukey	Spitfire
14	Marty Sukey	Spitfire
15	Tim Slater	Spitfire
16	Mat Huovinen	Spitfire
17	Henry Frye	TR250
18	John Styduhar	TR3
19	Brian Brazelton	TR3
20	Peter Dolan	TR3
21	Rick McCurdy	TR3
22	Mark Wheatley	TR4
23	Mike Moore	TR4
24	Dave Riddle	TR4
25	David Gott	TR4
26	Phil Gott	TR4
27	Tony Drews	TR4
28	Michael Deweerd	TR4
29	Greg Thompson	TR4
30	Sean Alexander	TR4
31	Chuck Gee	TR4A
32	Matt Molson	TR4A
33	Bob Lang	TR6
34	Bob Kramer	TR6
35	Mike Kurtz	TR6
36	Walt Hollowell	TR6
37	Jamie Horner	TR6
38	Alex Schlesinger	TR7
39	Brian Brazelton	TR8
40	Michael Deweerd	TR8
41	Tim Cook	TR8
42	Brian Dolan	Vitesse

	Rocco Marciello	TR7 coupe - Chevy V8 powered

I hope everyone had a fun and safe holiday season, but it's time to get 
back to work on the race cars!

Cheers

Henry Frye
KCup chair - Return to Mosport
860.508.3118(c)

From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Jan  2 06:44:28 2026
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2026 06:44:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Chuck Gee
Message-ID: <5af9f21a-0894-4d5c-80fa-015da1aa66ed@bradakis.com>

When you get this Chuck, do a 'reply all' like you usually do, and I'll 
check the headers and see if I can spot any problems.

And everybody have a happy new year.

mjb.


From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 14:55:30 2026
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:55:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Chuck Gee
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References: <5af9f21a-0894-4d5c-80fa-015da1aa66ed@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <2ACD445B-40B0-46CB-8D72-16F8F0602A39@gmail.com>

Thanks for checking on this Mark!

Chuck Gee

> On Jan 2, 2026, at 8:54?AM, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?When you get this Chuck, do a 'reply all' like you usually do, and I'll check the headers and see if I can spot any problems.
> 
> And everybody have a happy new year.
> 
> mjb.
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Sat Jan  3 19:04:11 2026
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:04:11 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
Message-ID: <SJ5PPF8C2F678BA0391B0C6C7D0F64AE106BAB9A@SJ5PPF8C2F678BA.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

A heads up if you are crossing at Buffalo and plan on taking the 407etr toll road. If you are over 11000 pounds (5000kg) you must have a 407etr transponder. My first trip with the MH and trailer I saw the signs but just assumed that was for commercial vehicles. I assumed wrong.  I about crapped when I got the bill in the mail. In addition to the tolls, that weren't cheap, there was $150 in camera fees.  I use the 407etr each year to Mosport and like it. But now carry the 407etr transponder.  Just go here Order a Transponder | 407 ETR, Express Toll Route<https://www.407etr.com/en/order-a-transponder>  and order one in advance. It's like $25 U.S. to get one.

Second thought, VARAC requires a rain light.  One of our U.S. group was advised at tech last year that it would be in his best interes to install one. If it started to sprinkle during a session he would be black flagged without one.  I purchased a cheap small LED light and will be installing it on my roll bar before the event.

See you all in June

Marty Sukey
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 09:06:49 2026
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:06:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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Thanks Marty. Does anyone know if there are any Canadian toll roads that I
should be ready for when traveling to the track from the 1000 Islands side
of the lake? I see bridge tolls on the NY side (I love NY) but I have an EZ
Pass for the MH and trailer to cover them.

mike h

On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 9:18?PM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> A heads up if you are crossing at Buffalo and plan on taking the 407etr
> toll road. If you are over 11000 pounds (5000kg) you must have a 407etr
> transponder. My first trip with the MH and trailer I saw the signs but just
> assumed that was for commercial vehicles. I assumed wrong.  I about crapped
> when I got the bill in the mail. In addition to the tolls, that weren't
> cheap, there was $150 in camera fees.  I use the 407etr each year to
> Mosport and like it. But now carry the 407etr transponder.  Just go here Order
> a Transponder | 407 ETR, Express Toll Route
> <https://www.407etr.com/en/order-a-transponder>  and order one in
> advance. It's like $25 U.S. to get one.
>
> Second thought, VARAC requires a rain light.  One of our U.S. group was
> advised at tech last year that it would be in his best interes to install
> one. If it started to sprinkle during a session he would be black flagged
> without one.  I purchased a cheap small LED light and will be installing it
> on my roll bar before the event.
>
> See you all in June
>
> Marty Sukey
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>
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From lymanazhd at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  4 09:24:48 2026
From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 09:24:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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From emanteno at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 09:44:38 2026
From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 10:44:38 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Fidanza flywheel for sale
Message-ID: <CAFWFMygGnLC6DLY_5+_ZpUqJXwE+s+xYRT8EVL6v7cLopt5C0w@mail.gmail.com>

Used but not abused Fidanza aluminum flywheel for the short crank TR6
engine. I have had this in my street TR6 for about 15 years. It's in very
good condition.
$250 includes shipping to the Continental US. Thanks for looking,

Irv Korey
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From emanteno at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 09:53:15 2026
From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 10:53:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Fidanza flywheel for sale
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Wow, the flywheel is sold already. Thank you,

Irv Korey

On Sun, Jan 4, 2026 at 10:44?AM Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com> wrote:

> Used but not abused Fidanza aluminum flywheel for the short crank TR6
> engine. I have had this in my street TR6 for about 15 years. It's in very
> good condition.
> $250 includes shipping to the Continental US. Thanks for looking,
>
> Irv Korey
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Jan  4 10:51:35 2026
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 12:51:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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From lymanazhd at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  4 11:46:38 2026
From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:46:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Sun Jan  4 11:52:23 2026
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 18:52:23 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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I find this  topic slightly humorous as I was TOLD at Limerock to turn OFF my lights as it was not allowed LOL ?.
Apparently a VRG rule ????
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2026, at 10:02?AM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? Regarding the rain light:
Dave and I are running the stock tailights that we turn on in the rain (and the dark). Presumably these will be ok?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2026, at 11:40?AM, Lyman Scherer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?Thanks for the great heads-up input!!
Contemplated adding a low mount rain light when re-wiring TR4!! Oh well, will do?
Any travel insights for us western travelers? Crossing through Toronto side.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2026, at 9:19?AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Thanks Marty. Does anyone know if there are any Canadian toll roads that I should be ready for when traveling to the track from the 1000 Islands side of the lake? I see bridge tolls on the NY side (I love NY) but I have an EZ Pass for the MH and trailer to cover them.

mike h

On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 9:18?PM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
A heads up if you are crossing at Buffalo and plan on taking the 407etr toll road. If you are over 11000 pounds (5000kg) you must have a 407etr transponder. My first trip with the MH and trailer I saw the signs but just assumed that was for commercial vehicles. I assumed wrong.  I about crapped when I got the bill in the mail. In addition to the tolls, that weren't cheap, there was $150 in camera fees.  I use the 407etr each year to Mosport and like it. But now carry the 407etr transponder.  Just go here Order a Transponder | 407 ETR, Express Toll Route<https://www.407etr.com/en/order-a-transponder>  and order one in advance. It's like $25 U.S. to get one.

Second thought, VARAC requires a rain light.  One of our U.S. group was advised at tech last year that it would be in his best interes to install one. If it started to sprinkle during a session he would be black flagged without one.  I purchased a cheap small LED light and will be installing it on my roll bar before the event.

See you all in June

Marty Sukey
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 12:49:40 2026
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 14:49:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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Hi Mike - I've done that route a couple of times, other than the bridge, no
tolls, a little slow, speed limit often 100 KPH
Cheers
Brian

On Sun, Jan 4, 2026 at 11:12?AM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks Marty. Does anyone know if there are any Canadian toll roads that I
> should be ready for when traveling to the track from the 1000 Islands side
> of the lake? I see bridge tolls on the NY side (I love NY) but I have an EZ
> Pass for the MH and trailer to cover them.
>
> mike h
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 9:18?PM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> A heads up if you are crossing at Buffalo and plan on taking the 407etr
>> toll road. If you are over 11000 pounds (5000kg) you must have a 407etr
>> transponder. My first trip with the MH and trailer I saw the signs but just
>> assumed that was for commercial vehicles. I assumed wrong.  I about crapped
>> when I got the bill in the mail. In addition to the tolls, that weren't
>> cheap, there was $150 in camera fees.  I use the 407etr each year to
>> Mosport and like it. But now carry the 407etr transponder.  Just go here Order
>> a Transponder | 407 ETR, Express Toll Route
>> <https://www.407etr.com/en/order-a-transponder>  and order one in
>> advance. It's like $25 U.S. to get one.
>>
>> Second thought, VARAC requires a rain light.  One of our U.S. group was
>> advised at tech last year that it would be in his best interes to install
>> one. If it started to sprinkle during a session he would be black flagged
>> without one.  I purchased a cheap small LED light and will be installing it
>> on my roll bar before the event.
>>
>> See you all in June
>>
>> Marty Sukey
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>>
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Jan  4 13:23:02 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2026 15:23:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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Mike,

You are correct, there are minor bridge tolls on the connector from 
Route 81 to the 401 in Canada. EZPass works. No issue like Marty is 
referring to.

The toll issue Marty is referring to is a newish toll road built to 
bypass Toronto. From what I understand, you can still take the old road 
and avoid the toll. I have no firsthand knowledge of this, but several 
of our guys do navigate this every year and can chime in.

Henry Frye
860.508.3118

On 2026-01-04 11:06, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote:

> Thanks Marty. Does anyone know if there are any Canadian toll roads 
> that I should be ready for when traveling to the track from the 1000 
> Islands side of the lake? I see bridge tolls on the NY side (I love NY) 
> but I have an EZ Pass for the MH and trailer to cover them.
> 
> mike h
> 
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 9:18?PM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
> wrote:
> 
>> A heads up if you are crossing at Buffalo and plan on taking the 
>> 407etr toll road. If you are over 11000 pounds (5000kg) you must have 
>> a 407etr transponder. My first trip with the MH and trailer I saw the 
>> signs but just assumed that was for commercial vehicles. I assumed 
>> wrong.  I about crapped when I got the bill in the mail. In addition 
>> to the tolls, that weren't cheap, there was $150 in camera fees.  I 
>> use the 407etr each year to Mosport and like it. But now carry the 
>> 407etr transponder.  Just go here Order a Transponder | 407 ETR, 
>> Express Toll Route [1]  and order one in advance. It's like $25 U.S. 
>> to get one.
>> 
>> Second thought, VARAC requires a rain light.  One of our U.S. group 
>> was advised at tech last year that it would be in his best interes to 
>> install one. If it started to sprinkle during a session he would be 
>> black flagged without one.  I purchased a cheap small LED light and 
>> will be installing it on my roll bar before the event.
>> 
>> See you all in June
>> 
>> Marty Sukey _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
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>> 
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Jan  4 13:39:38 2026
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2026 15:39:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Rain Lights at the Mosport
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I ran for YEARS without a rain light, as several others from the States 
has done. I have never seen a car get black flagged if it starts raining 
and no rain light is on.

Eventually, I did wire rain lights as Phil describes, simply installed a 
switch and ran a wire back to my OEM tail lights. The parking light 
circuit on standard 1147 bulbs is all you want and need.

Please don't overthink this, guys. If you don't run in the rain, you 
certainly don't need a rain light.

You do not want a super bright lights that will distract your 
competitors, or as Tony G found out at Lime Rock, you will get black 
flagged because somebody thinks your car is on fire! (I wish I was 
kidding...)

Henry Frye
860.508.3118

On 2026-01-04 13:46, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote:

> Our TR4 has led tail/brake & turn sig bulbs. Could easily wire both 
> turn bulbs into rain lights with switch. Plus we have bright led 
> rollbar light with tail/brake.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 10:51?AM, Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Regarding the rain light:
>> Dave and I are running the stock tailights that we turn on in the rain 
>> (and the dark). Presumably these will be ok?
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Jan  4 13:46:33 2026
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 15:46:33 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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From mjkurtz051 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 14:38:01 2026
From: mjkurtz051 at gmail.com (Michael Kurtz)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 16:38:01 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 15:44:02 2026
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 17:44:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Rain Lights at the Mosport
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References: <4FA2CAD8-88FB-4C57-B19C-452F13C654CA@aol.com>
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Last year at MoSport, tech took it very seriously that I did not have a
functioning rain light (or factory running lights).

The inspector had to call over his boss, a special note was sent to race
control, and then I had to promise to remove myself from the track if it
began raining.

Needless to say,  I have a nice little LED lamp to install before heading
up for the Kcup this year!

Jason

On Sun, Jan 4, 2026 at 5:35?PM Henry Frye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I ran for YEARS without a rain light, as several others from the States
> has done. I have never seen a car get black flagged if it starts raining
> and no rain light is on.
>
> Eventually, I did wire rain lights as Phil describes, simply installed a
> switch and ran a wire back to my OEM tail lights. The parking light circuit
> on standard 1147 bulbs is all you want and need.
>
> Please don't overthink this, guys. If you don't run in the rain, you
> certainly don't need a rain light.
>
> You do not want a super bright lights that will distract your competitors,
> or as Tony G found out at Lime Rock, you will get black flagged because
> somebody thinks your car is on fire! (I wish I was kidding...)
>
> Henry Frye
> 860.508.3118
>
> On 2026-01-04 13:46, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote:
>
> Our TR4 has led tail/brake & turn sig bulbs. Could easily wire both turn
> bulbs into rain lights with switch. Plus we have bright led rollbar light
> with tail/brake.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 4, 2026, at 10:51?AM, Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Regarding the rain light:
> Dave and I are running the stock tailights that we turn on in the rain
> (and the dark). Presumably these will be ok?
>
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 16:33:31 2026
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 18:33:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2026 Kastner Cup Mosport
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Thanks Henry.
I've taken the road to Toronto 407, without a trailer in the distant past,
my 1st trip into Canada with a Class A motorhome. I remember coming up on a
low bridge sign, at 110 KPH, with the clearance in Meters. Quick conversion
in my head from feet and I thought we were OK but I told the kids to hold
on, we may be stopping quickly. We cleared it but they still rag me about
it.

mike h

On Sun, Jan 4, 2026 at 5:23?PM Henry Frye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Mike,
>
> You are correct, there are minor bridge tolls on the connector from Route
> 81 to the 401 in Canada. EZPass works. No issue like Marty is referring to.
>
> The toll issue Marty is referring to is a newish toll road built to bypass
> Toronto. From what I understand, you can still take the old road and avoid
> the toll. I have no firsthand knowledge of this, but several of our guys do
> navigate this every year and can chime in.
>
> Henry Frye
> 860.508.3118
>
> On 2026-01-04 11:06, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote:
>
> Thanks Marty. Does anyone know if there are any Canadian toll roads that I
> should be ready for when traveling to the track from the 1000 Islands side
> of the lake? I see bridge tolls on the NY side (I love NY) but I have an EZ
> Pass for the MH and trailer to cover them.
>
> mike h
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 9:18?PM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> A heads up if you are crossing at Buffalo and plan on taking the 407etr
> toll road. If you are over 11000 pounds (5000kg) you must have a 407etr
> transponder. My first trip with the MH and trailer I saw the signs but just
> assumed that was for commercial vehicles. I assumed wrong.  I about crapped
> when I got the bill in the mail. In addition to the tolls, that weren't
> cheap, there was $150 in camera fees.  I use the 407etr each year to
> Mosport and like it. But now carry the 407etr transponder.  Just go here Order
> a Transponder | 407 ETR, Express Toll Route
> <https://www.407etr.com/en/order-a-transponder>  and order one in
> advance. It's like $25 U.S. to get one.
>
> Second thought, VARAC requires a rain light.  One of our U.S. group was
> advised at tech last year that it would be in his best interes to install
> one. If it started to sprinkle during a session he would be black flagged
> without one.  I purchased a cheap small LED light and will be installing it
> on my roll bar before the event.
>
> See you all in June
>
> Marty Sukey
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From vfracing at aol.com  Mon Jan  5 04:21:05 2026
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 06:21:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Rain Lights at the Mosport
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From tomstrange5 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 13:38:50 2026
From: tomstrange5 at gmail.com (tom strange)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 15:38:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] shipping help again
Message-ID: <CALDumpDohYWgr3_mTYRZGJT6uRxc9bAa7eSoONq4zzkWE2VicQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good afternoon all,
  My driver that was to pick up an engine in PA, can no longer make the
trip.  I need to hire an LTL shipper...  does anyone know the approximate
weight of a GT6 engine ... long block with head & internals, no bellhousing
or tranny?
  Also, what should I figure for the weight of a pallet.  I just need an
aprox. shipping weight for the carriers.
Thanks in advance,

Tom Strange
#59 Red GT6
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Fri Jan  9 11:44:50 2026
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 13:44:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Front and Rear springs
Message-ID: <D3A7C7A4-C9AA-4B23-BF2B-F86C1025E705@optonline.net>

Friends,

What are you TR3 guys using for front and rear springs? Mine are still from when my father raced the car 50yrs ago. Anyone using the Racetorations comp rear springs? 

I?ve ordered the Koni shocks for front and am having the rear shocks rebuilt. 

When Tony Garmey passed me in the left hander at Lime Rock I thought, ?hmm that car didn?t show body roll?.  It was then I decided to have a look at mine.  

Any info is helpful 
Todd

From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Fri Jan  9 12:08:42 2026
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 19:08:42 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Front and Rear springs
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Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 9, 2026, at 10:58?AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?Friends,
>
> What are you TR3 guys using for front and rear springs? Mine are still from when my father raced the car 50yrs ago. Anyone using the Racetorations comp rear springs?
>
> I?ve ordered the Koni shocks for front and am having the rear shocks rebuilt.
>
> When Tony Garmey passed me in the left hander at Lime Rock I thought, ?hmm that car didn?t show body roll?.  It was then I decided to have a look at mine.
>
> Any info is helpful
> Todd
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  9 12:15:37 2026
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 19:15:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Front and Rear springs
In-Reply-To: <D3A7C7A4-C9AA-4B23-BF2B-F86C1025E705@optonline.net>
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 Todd, you also need to factor in sway bar size into your spring consideration. ?Bumpy tracks you might want a softer spring and a stiffer sway bar. ?My car does not have the typical TR3 suspension, but as an example I have 400 pound springs up front with a 1" solid sway bay.JoeB
    On Friday, January 9, 2026 at 02:07:15 PM EST, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Friends,

What are you TR3 guys using for front and rear springs? Mine are still from when my father raced the car 50yrs ago. Anyone using the Racetorations comp rear springs? 

I?ve ordered the Koni shocks for front and am having the rear shocks rebuilt. 

When Tony Garmey passed me in the left hander at Lime Rock I thought, ?hmm that car didn?t show body roll?.? It was then I decided to have a look at mine.? 

Any info is helpful 
Todd
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  9 12:33:24 2026
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 19:33:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Front and Rear springs
In-Reply-To: <D3A7C7A4-C9AA-4B23-BF2B-F86C1025E705@optonline.net>
References: <D3A7C7A4-C9AA-4B23-BF2B-F86C1025E705@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <1551690024.9334224.1767987204765@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hi Todd.? I raced a TR-4A years ago, but have driven aggressive TR-3 street cars since college and I still have a TR-2 and a TR-3A today.? When I built a TR-3 vintage race car in the late 90's, I followed Kas Kastner's Competition preparation manual.? For rear springs I simply added a leaf to the stock springs and for the front, I ordered whatever competition springs were available at the time.? Perhaps more important than springs if you want to control body roll is sway bars.? It's been a long time, but I believe I used at least a 1" bar in the front.? Stealing from sprint car technology, I used a tubular bar that was splined on each end.? Then I had aluminum arms made up to slide on the ends of the bar and were made out of 1" by 2" stock.? These arms, attached to the suspension with rod ends provided very firm roll stiffness.? I mounted the bar to the frame with custom made aluminum brackets - no rubber in the system!? I also set up the frame to accommodate a rear bar, if needed.? I would put a big front bar on first and try it without a rear bar.? If it has a tendency to understeer add a small rear bar and go larger until you find the right balance.
Good luck with your project.
Jack Wheeler

    On Friday, January 9, 2026 at 02:04:54 PM EST, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Friends,

What are you TR3 guys using for front and rear springs? Mine are still from when my father raced the car 50yrs ago. Anyone using the Racetorations comp rear springs? 

I?ve ordered the Koni shocks for front and am having the rear shocks rebuilt. 

When Tony Garmey passed me in the left hander at Lime Rock I thought, ?hmm that car didn?t show body roll?.? It was then I decided to have a look at mine.? 

Any info is helpful 
Todd
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From steve at artwithcars.com  Fri Jan  9 13:03:09 2026
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 12:03:09 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Front and Rear springs
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The problem is, you could swap cars with Tony and he would still overtake!

~Steve


> On Jan 9, 2026, at 12:01?PM, Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2026, at 10:58?AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Friends,
>> 
>> What are you TR3 guys using for front and rear springs? Mine are still from when my father raced the car 50yrs ago. Anyone using the Racetorations comp rear springs?
>> 
>> I?ve ordered the Koni shocks for front and am having the rear shocks rebuilt.
>> 
>> When Tony Garmey passed me in the left hander at Lime Rock I thought, ?hmm that car didn?t show body roll?.  It was then I decided to have a look at mine.
>> 
>> Any info is helpful
>> Todd
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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>> 
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 17:17:25 2026
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 19:17:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Front and Rear springs
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But he?d have more body roll!

Chuck Gee

> On Jan 9, 2026, at 4:53?PM, Steven Belfer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?The problem is, you could swap cars with Tony and he would still overtake!
> 
> ~Steve
> 
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2026, at 12:01?PM, Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 9, 2026, at 10:58?AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Friends,
>>> 
>>> What are you TR3 guys using for front and rear springs? Mine are still from when my father raced the car 50yrs ago. Anyone using the Racetorations comp rear springs?
>>> 
>>> I?ve ordered the Koni shocks for front and am having the rear shocks rebuilt.
>>> 
>>> When Tony Garmey passed me in the left hander at Lime Rock I thought, ?hmm that car didn?t show body roll?.  It was then I decided to have a look at mine.
>>> 
>>> Any info is helpful
>>> Todd
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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Jan  9 19:29:02 2026
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 21:29:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Triumph Race Cars wanted for Philadelphia Auto Show
Message-ID: <F1E3AB7C-BE31-4EED-ADD1-908039E3294C@me.com>

I just got a call from Dave Hutchison, of Ragtops and Roadsters, who is organizing an exhibit of Triumphs at the Philadelphia Convention Center as part of the annual Auto Show, Jan 31-Feb 8th.  If you?ve never been to the PHL Auto Show, in addition to all the new cars, they also usually have an AACA section, a tuner section, some exotics, and a special exhibit, which seems to be Triumphs this year.

He has about 25 Triumphs lined up, some of the usual stuff, and some unusual ones, including a Gloria and his Italia. What he doesn?t have is any race cars and he would like to have some.

For those of you who have been in the convention center, this particular exhibit will be in what was the old Reading Terminal train shed, a very cool space that was integrated into the construction of the overall convention center. 
Anyone who is interested in should contact Dave on his cell phone 215-527-1409.  
He can tell you about logistics, but apparently it?s pretty easy to drive in with a trailer and unload, etc.  
Dave told me I could call him any time over the weekend, etc - he?s tasked with putting this together in short order and would be delighted to hear from you.
He asked about my GT6 and I?m considering it, but have some race prep to do and am not sure it will work out.


Scott Janzen


From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Sat Jan 10 07:17:37 2026
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (alfetta95 at optonline.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 09:17:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Front and Rear springs
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Agreed!


        ------ Original Message ------
        From: steve at artwithcars.com
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Cc: alfetta95 at optonline.net; Fot at autox.team.net
        Sent: Friday, January 9th 2026, 03:03 PM
        Subject: Re: [Fot] Front and Rear springs


  The problem is, you could swap cars with Tony and he would still 
overtake!

  ~Steve


  > On Jan 9, 2026, at 12:01?PM, Tony Garmey via Fot 
<fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
  >
  > ?
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  >> On Jan 9, 2026, at 10:58?AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
wrote:
  >>
  >> ?Friends,
  >>
  >> What are you TR3 guys using for front and rear springs? Mine are 
still from when my father raced the car 50yrs ago. Anyone using the 
Racetorations comp rear springs?
  >>
  >> I?ve ordered the Koni shocks for front and am having the rear 
shocks rebuilt.
  >>
  >> When Tony Garmey passed me in the left hander at Lime Rock I 
thought, ?hmm that car didn?t show body roll?.  It was then I decided to 
have a look at mine.
  >>
  >> Any info is helpful
  >> Todd
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Sat Jan 10 07:18:15 2026
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 09:18:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Front and Rear springs
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Thank you all for your responses Some have asked so here is my current setup. 

- Lowered the car by flipping and swapping the front lower control arms and lowering blocks in the rear 
- front springs - whatever was available in the 60?s
- 7/8?  front sway bar
- no rear sway bar
- stock front shocks (Konis ordered)
- rear shocks - whatever was used in the 60?s (Getting rebuilt)
- stock rear springs with cut outs for the wider tires, 6 leafs
- Hoosier Speedsters 205/60. 15x6 rims
- Blackline LSD

Todd

> On Jan 9, 2026, at 1:44?PM, Alfetta95 <alfetta95 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Friends,
> 
> What are you TR3 guys using for front and rear springs? Mine are still from when my father raced the car 50yrs ago. Anyone using the Racetorations comp rear springs?
> 
> I?ve ordered the Koni shocks for front and am having the rear shocks rebuilt.
> 
> When Tony Garmey passed me in the left hander at Lime Rock I thought, ?hmm that car didn?t show body roll?.  It was then I decided to have a look at mine.  
> 
> Any info is helpful
> Todd


From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 09:23:32 2026
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 10:23:32 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Front and Rear springs
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I'm going to chime in here and probably show my ignorance. I've had a  few
race cars, a TR3A, two TR4's, a TR4A IRS and now a TR6. I always followed
what I considered to be the common knowledge principles in these cars,
followed what Kas said to do, and they were similarly equipped to what Todd
describes. I dropped them, stiffened them and put on a big front sway bar.
I shortened the upper a-arms (non-adjustable), and on the TR4A, I put in
Richard Good's adjustable trailing arm mounts and cranked them all the way
negative. That car actually handled really well with Richards front and
rear swaybars. The only thing I ever changed was the rear sway bar
settings. I left a lot on the table.

Now I'm going through the TR6 I got from Sam Halkias. This car was set up
to run on slicks and it too was set up stiff as a board, maybe a steel
plate. It is fast but extremely twitchy. Awful in the rain. The front is
traditional TR but with coil overs and adjustable upper a-arms. The
steering rack is mounted on off the shelf Moss aluminum mounts. I had to
lower the rack in the 4A, so I will work on that. In the rear, the
coilovers are installed in the spring pockets with a custom located upper
mount giving about 10 degrees angle. Sam constructed a custom sway bar and
it mounts to the trailing arm where the lever shock would.

I've been studying up and getting myself confused as I try and plan for
setting up the car in a more compliant manner. I've dropped the rear spring
rate from 700 top 450 but added adjustable shocks to help control
the trailing arm. I'm hoping this will allow me to tune with the sway bar,
which Sam had told me to leave disconnected. It did not have
adjustable links but it does now. Once I get the engine back in and all the
weight back in the car I will start on camber settings. I'm pretty sure
that the current setup for use with cantilever slicks needs more camber for
the radials Toyo's I'll be running.

I have a lot to learn, and I hope to get the car up and running and
start messing with setup in the Texas spring, earlier than most of you. We
race in late February.  I wish I was as smart as Tony Garmey with these
things. Beyond his exceptional driving skills, he has his suspension set up
to keep the tire patches in all the right places. We can all get the
recipes for the cars but the devil is in the details of car setup.

The devil is also in my head, messing with my through processing as I work
through this...............

Bob K

On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 9:07?AM Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thank you all for your responses Some have asked so here is my current
> setup.
>
> - Lowered the car by flipping and swapping the front lower control arms
> and lowering blocks in the rear
> - front springs - whatever was available in the 60?s
> - 7/8?  front sway bar
> - no rear sway bar
> - stock front shocks (Konis ordered)
> - rear shocks - whatever was used in the 60?s (Getting rebuilt)
> - stock rear springs with cut outs for the wider tires, 6 leafs
> - Hoosier Speedsters 205/60. 15x6 rims
> - Blackline LSD
>
> Todd
>
> > On Jan 9, 2026, at 1:44?PM, Alfetta95 <alfetta95 at optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> > ?Friends,
> >
> > What are you TR3 guys using for front and rear springs? Mine are still
> from when my father raced the car 50yrs ago. Anyone using the Racetorations
> comp rear springs?
> >
> > I?ve ordered the Koni shocks for front and am having the rear shocks
> rebuilt.
> >
> > When Tony Garmey passed me in the left hander at Lime Rock I thought,
> ?hmm that car didn?t show body roll?.  It was then I decided to have a look
> at mine.
> >
> > Any info is helpful
> > Todd
>
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