From dave at microworks.net  Mon Jun  2 10:15:43 2025
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 16:15:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Gearing question for Lime Rock
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Lime Rock is a high speed Track so does the collective FOT wisdom think a 3.7 or 4.1 rear end would be best in a TR4?

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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jun  2 12:15:58 2025
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 14:15:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Gearing question for Lime Rock
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I would not call LR a high speed track.  In the GT6, I do not hit redline in 4th on the front straight with a 3.89, and no-name straight is much shorter.  Not sure how that compares for your car - the engine does run to 7,300 RPM, but I also only have 13? wheels.  For me, with a close ratio TR6 box, it?s mostly a third gear track except on the front straight.

On Jun 2, 2025, at 12:15?PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Lime Rock is a high speed Track so does the collective FOT wisdom think a 3.7 or 4.1 rear end would be best in a TR4?
 
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From vfracing at aol.com  Mon Jun  2 14:35:11 2025
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 16:35:11 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Gearing question for Lime Rock
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  2 20:14:50 2025
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 02:14:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Gearing question for Lime Rock
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 I have used a 4.3 at LRP for years in my TR3.? I have a 7300 redline and a 5 spd transmission with a .81 5th gear.? Only use 5th on the main straight.? Back in the late 70's many of the TR3/4 racers would use a 4.54 diff with the TR OD trans.??JoeB
    On Monday, June 2, 2025 at 12:58:04 PM EDT, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  
Lime Rock is a high speed Track so does the collective FOT wisdom think a 3.7 or 4.1 rear end would be best in a TR4?
 
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 20:29:57 2025
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 19:29:57 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Gearing question for Lime Rock
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Who on earth would say that fiddly little track is high speed. I think I got into 4th with Peyote once for about 4 seconds. Watkins Glen, Road America, even Portland International and Pacific Raceways?yes. Limerock???

> On Jun 2, 2025, at 7:14?PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I have used a 4.3 at LRP for years in my TR3.  I have a 7300 redline and a 5 spd transmission with a .81 5th gear.  Only use 5th on the main straight.  Back in the late 70's many of the TR3/4 racers would use a 4.54 diff with the TR OD trans.  
> JoeB
> 
> On Monday, June 2, 2025 at 12:58:04 PM EDT, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Lime Rock is a high speed Track so does the collective FOT wisdom think a 3.7 or 4.1 rear end would be best in a TR4?
> 
>  
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From sonomascot at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 19:41:42 2025
From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 01:41:42 +0000 (UTC)
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I have my 1962 Spitfire vintage racecar listed on the Bring a Trailer web site -Scott Meredith
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Jun  4 20:06:58 2025
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From maddhatt69 at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 20:17:58 2025
From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 02:17:58 +0000 (UTC)
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 Scott and FOT-ers,
Here is the link:?1962 Triumph Spitfire Mk 1 Race Car. GLWS!

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    On Wednesday, June 4, 2025 at 10:13:58 PM EDT, Scott Meredith via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   

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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jun  5 05:51:39 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:51:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Gearing for Lime Rock
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I have been asked by numerous folks about what rear end gear to run at 
Lime Rock. Several of our guys with a lot more laps at Lime Rock than I 
do have chimed in, thanks everyone for your input. Sometimes a picture 
is worth a thousand words, so here's my input.

https://youtu.be/xIg5KQwM-pw

I clipped a lap from my in-car camera from the 2024 Lime Rock Vintage 
Festival. My tach is plainly visible and I added captions on what I am 
doing with the gearbox. The lap shown is somewhere in the mid-1.05's. 
The camera is one of those Go-Pro knockoffs, so the quality is junk, but 
it got the job done. The sound was cut, if you heard what the camera 
records for sound you would thank me!

The gearing I use in the TR250 is a 4:10 R&P, a Triumph gearbox with 
close ratio gears, a stock Laycock overdrive and I am running on Hoosier 
Speedsters with a diameter of 24.2 inches. My shift point is 6000. This 
example should be easy to reference against your race car assuming you 
are familiar with high school math! This is the same as I used in my old 
TR4 racer and the TR3, except my 4-cylinder racers use a Moldex crank, 
Carillos and a cam that ran to 7000. With the additional revs afforded 
by the billet bottom end, I don't need the overdrive to enhance the top 
end. Again, it's all in the math.

My line through Big Bend and the Uphill are not optimal, but that is a 
conversation for another time.

Watch the tack twitch as I crest the Uphill, you know you did OK when 
you get a little wheelspin there!

Hope this helps.

Henry Frye
KCup chair
860.508.3118

From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jun  5 10:22:59 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 12:22:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Gearing for Lime Rock
Message-ID: <cfd57865a0c11a2a4bb13fa2d1584f9f@tr4racer.com>

If this comes through twice, I apologize. Working through some technical 
difficulties with my mail server.

I have been asked by numerous folks about what rear end gear to run at 
Lime Rock. Several of our guys with a lot more laps at Lime Rock than I 
do have chimed in, thanks everyone for your input. Sometimes a picture 
is worth a thousand words, so here's my input.

https://youtu.be/xIg5KQwM-pw

I clipped a lap from my in-car camera from the 2024 Lime Rock Vintage 
Festival. My tach is plainly visible and I added captions on what I am 
doing with the gearbox. The lap shown is somewhere in the mid-1.05's. 
The camera is one of those Go-Pro knockoffs, so the quality is junk, but 
it got the job done. The sound was cut, if you heard what the camera 
records for sound you would thank me!

The gearing I use in the TR250 is a 4:10 R&P, a Triumph gearbox with 
close ratio gears, a stock Laycock overdrive and I am running on Hoosier 
Speedsters with a diameter of 24.2 inches. My shift point is 6000. This 
example should be easy to reference against your race car assuming you 
are familiar with high school math!

This is the same setup I used in my old TR4 racer and the TR3, except my 
4-cylinder racers use a Moldex crank, Carillos and a cam that ran to 
7000. With the additional revs afforded by the billet bottom end, I 
don't need the overdrive to enhance the top end. Again, it's all in the 
math.

My line through Big Bend and the Uphill are not optimal, but that is a 
conversation for another time.

Watch the tack twitch as I crest the Uphill, you know you did OK when 
you get a little wheelspin there!

Hope this helps.

Henry Frye
KCup chair
860.508.3118

From bownes at seiri.com  Thu Jun  5 22:12:58 2025
From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2025 00:12:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Gearing for Lime Rock
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> Watch the tack twitch as I crest the Uphill, you know you did OK when you get a little wheelspin there!


Indeed I will never forget the first time that happened to me. I was terrified I was going to over rev the engine. After a few laps it started to be kinda fun.  :)

Bob

From mecook at mindspring.com  Sat Jun  7 09:24:58 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 11:24:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock - Groups for Fri Qualifying/Practice and Sat
 Race
Message-ID: <007801dbd7c0$557698d0$0063ca70$@mindspring.com>

Henry,

 

Thanks for the info on gearing.  Video was helpful as well for having not
ever driven Lime Rock.

 

Was looking at the Lime Rock HF43 posted race groups.  Question.  Will we
run in Group 5 as a single group for Friday's practice/qualifying and
Saturday's races as well as the Kastner Cup on Monday?  Or, run in multiple
groups, like they have listed below (TR250/6 2500cc in the 2.5 Litre or Over
2 Litre as example)?   I assume multiple groups except for Monday's event.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark Cook

 

https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival/hf-driver-information/

 

HF43 Groups and Classes

 

The following race groups are our tentative run groups:

 

Group 1 - Mid Century GT / Sportscars Under 2 Litre

    Under 1.3L

    Over 1.3L

 

Group 5 - Triumph Feature - Kastner Cup

    Triumph Under 1.6L

    Triumph Over 1.6L

    Triumph Over 2.2L

 

Group 6 - Tin Tops / IMSA RS / Under 2.5 Litre Cars

    Under 1.3L

    Over 1.3L

 

Group 9 - GT / Sportscars Over 2 Litre / Sports Racing Cars

    GT

    Sportscars

    Sports Racers

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2025 12:23 PM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] Gearing for Lime Rock

 

If this comes through twice, I apologize. Working through some technical 

difficulties with my mail server.

 

I have been asked by numerous folks about what rear end gear to run at 

Lime Rock. Several of our guys with a lot more laps at Lime Rock than I 

do have chimed in, thanks everyone for your input. Sometimes a picture 

is worth a thousand words, so here's my input.

 

https://youtu.be/xIg5KQwM-pw

 

I clipped a lap from my in-car camera from the 2024 Lime Rock Vintage 

Festival. My tach is plainly visible and I added captions on what I am 

doing with the gearbox. The lap shown is somewhere in the mid-1.05's. 

The camera is one of those Go-Pro knockoffs, so the quality is junk, but 

it got the job done. The sound was cut, if you heard what the camera 

records for sound you would thank me!

 

The gearing I use in the TR250 is a 4:10 R&P, a Triumph gearbox with 

close ratio gears, a stock Laycock overdrive and I am running on Hoosier 

Speedsters with a diameter of 24.2 inches. My shift point is 6000. This 

example should be easy to reference against your race car assuming you 

are familiar with high school math!

 

This is the same setup I used in my old TR4 racer and the TR3, except my 

4-cylinder racers use a Moldex crank, Carillos and a cam that ran to 

7000. With the additional revs afforded by the billet bottom end, I 

don't need the overdrive to enhance the top end. Again, it's all in the 

math.

 

My line through Big Bend and the Uphill are not optimal, but that is a 

conversation for another time.

 

Watch the tack twitch as I crest the Uphill, you know you did OK when 

you get a little wheelspin there!

 

Hope this helps.

 

Henry Frye

KCup chair

860.508.3118

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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sat Jun  7 12:08:43 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 14:08:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock - Groups for Fri Qualifying/Practice and Sat
 Race
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Mark, 

At this point, we have 33 cars entered so we intend to run all Triumphs
in the same group. If we get another 10 cars or so, we will be looking
to move some of the slowest and/or fastest cars to appropriate groups. 

The only caveat is cars running on slicks. If someone has no other
option or insists on running slicks, they will be the first to get moved
to the big bore group for all races leading up to the Kastner Cup race,
but we all run together for the Cup on Monday after lunch. 

In a couple weeks I will be focusing heavily on planning our weekend at
Lime Rock, stay tuned for more as it becomes available! 

Cheers 

On 2025-06-07 11:24, Mark Cook wrote:

> Henry, 
> 
> Thanks for the info on gearing.  Video was helpful as well for having not ever driven Lime Rock. 
> 
> Was looking at the Lime Rock HF43 posted race groups.  Question.  Will we run in Group 5 as a single group for Friday's practice/qualifying and Saturday's races as well as the Kastner Cup on Monday?  Or, run in multiple groups, like they have listed below (TR250/6 2500cc in the 2.5 Litre or Over 2 Litre as example)?   I assume multiple groups except for Monday's event. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Mark Cook 
> 
> https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival/hf-driver-information/ 
> 
> HF43 Groups and Classes 
> 
> The following race groups are our tentative run groups: 
> 
> Group 1 - Mid Century GT / Sportscars Under 2 Litre 
> 
> Under 1.3L 
> 
> Over 1.3L 
> 
> Group 5 - Triumph Feature - Kastner Cup 
> 
> Triumph Under 1.6L 
> 
> Triumph Over 1.6L 
> 
> Triumph Over 2.2L 
> 
> Group 6 - Tin Tops / IMSA RS / Under 2.5 Litre Cars 
> 
> Under 1.3L 
> 
> Over 1.3L 
> 
> Group 9 - GT / Sportscars Over 2 Litre / Sports Racing Cars 
> 
> GT 
> 
> Sportscars 
> 
> Sports Racers 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2025 12:23 PM
> To: FOT
> Subject: [Fot] Gearing for Lime Rock 
> 
> If this comes through twice, I apologize. Working through some technical 
> 
> difficulties with my mail server. 
> 
> I have been asked by numerous folks about what rear end gear to run at 
> 
> Lime Rock. Several of our guys with a lot more laps at Lime Rock than I 
> 
> do have chimed in, thanks everyone for your input. Sometimes a picture 
> 
> is worth a thousand words, so here's my input. 
> 
> https://youtu.be/xIg5KQwM-pw 
> 
> I clipped a lap from my in-car camera from the 2024 Lime Rock Vintage 
> 
> Festival. My tach is plainly visible and I added captions on what I am 
> 
> doing with the gearbox. The lap shown is somewhere in the mid-1.05's. 
> 
> The camera is one of those Go-Pro knockoffs, so the quality is junk, but 
> 
> it got the job done. The sound was cut, if you heard what the camera 
> 
> records for sound you would thank me! 
> 
> The gearing I use in the TR250 is a 4:10 R&P, a Triumph gearbox with 
> 
> close ratio gears, a stock Laycock overdrive and I am running on Hoosier 
> 
> Speedsters with a diameter of 24.2 inches. My shift point is 6000. This 
> 
> example should be easy to reference against your race car assuming you 
> 
> are familiar with high school math! 
> 
> This is the same setup I used in my old TR4 racer and the TR3, except my 
> 
> 4-cylinder racers use a Moldex crank, Carillos and a cam that ran to 
> 
> 7000. With the additional revs afforded by the billet bottom end, I 
> 
> don't need the overdrive to enhance the top end. Again, it's all in the 
> 
> math. 
> 
> My line through Big Bend and the Uphill are not optimal, but that is a 
> 
> conversation for another time. 
> 
> Watch the tack twitch as I crest the Uphill, you know you did OK when 
> 
> you get a little wheelspin there! 
> 
> Hope this helps. 
> 
> Henry Frye 
> 
> KCup chair 
> 
> 860.508.3118 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
> 
> fot at autox.team.net 
> 
> http://www.fot-racing.com 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Sat Jun  7 14:35:24 2025
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 16:35:24 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock - Groups for Fri Qualifying/Practice and Sat
 Race
In-Reply-To: <05a4d6790e31037cc588dff1edfbbf2f@tr4racer.com>
References: <05a4d6790e31037cc588dff1edfbbf2f@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <2FBD0391-E213-4555-971D-AB5916E0C57E@optonline.net>

Is there a list of entries somewhere?  Motorsportsreg still shows no entries.  But it says I?m registered.  

Just curious
Todd

> On Jun 7, 2025, at 3:56?PM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Mark,
> 
> At this point, we have 33 cars entered so we intend to run all Triumphs in the same group. If we get another 10 cars or so, we will be looking to move some of the slowest and/or fastest cars to appropriate groups.
> 
> The only caveat is cars running on slicks. If someone has no other option or insists on running slicks, they will be the first to get moved to the big bore group for all races leading up to the Kastner Cup race, but we all run together for the Cup on Monday after lunch.
> 
> In a couple weeks I will be focusing heavily on planning our weekend at Lime Rock, stay tuned for more as it becomes available!
> 
> Cheers 
> 
>  
>> On 2025-06-07 11:24, Mark Cook wrote:
>> 
>> Henry,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks for the info on gearing.  Video was helpful as well for having not ever driven Lime Rock.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Was looking at the Lime Rock HF43 posted race groups.  Question.  Will we run in Group 5 as a single group for Friday's practice/qualifying and Saturday's races as well as the Kastner Cup on Monday?  Or, run in multiple groups, like they have listed below (TR250/6 2500cc in the 2.5 Litre or Over 2 Litre as example)?   I assume multiple groups except for Monday?s event.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Mark Cook
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival/hf-driver-information/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> HF43 Groups and Classes
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The following race groups are our tentative run groups:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Group 1 ? Mid Century GT / Sportscars Under 2 Litre
>> 
>>     Under 1.3L
>> 
>>     Over 1.3L
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Group 5 ? Triumph Feature ? Kastner Cup
>> 
>>     Triumph Under 1.6L
>> 
>>     Triumph Over 1.6L
>> 
>>     Triumph Over 2.2L
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Group 6 ? Tin Tops / IMSA RS / Under 2.5 Litre Cars
>> 
>>     Under 1.3L
>> 
>>     Over 1.3L
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Group 9 ? GT / Sportscars Over 2 Litre / Sports Racing Cars
>> 
>>     GT
>> 
>>     Sportscars
>> 
>>     Sports Racers
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
>> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2025 12:23 PM
>> To: FOT
>> Subject: [Fot] Gearing for Lime Rock
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If this comes through twice, I apologize. Working through some technical
>> 
>> difficulties with my mail server.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have been asked by numerous folks about what rear end gear to run at
>> 
>> Lime Rock. Several of our guys with a lot more laps at Lime Rock than I
>> 
>> do have chimed in, thanks everyone for your input. Sometimes a picture
>> 
>> is worth a thousand words, so here's my input.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/xIg5KQwM-pw
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I clipped a lap from my in-car camera from the 2024 Lime Rock Vintage
>> 
>> Festival. My tach is plainly visible and I added captions on what I am
>> 
>> doing with the gearbox. The lap shown is somewhere in the mid-1.05's.
>> 
>> The camera is one of those Go-Pro knockoffs, so the quality is junk, but
>> 
>> it got the job done. The sound was cut, if you heard what the camera
>> 
>> records for sound you would thank me!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The gearing I use in the TR250 is a 4:10 R&P, a Triumph gearbox with
>> 
>> close ratio gears, a stock Laycock overdrive and I am running on Hoosier
>> 
>> Speedsters with a diameter of 24.2 inches. My shift point is 6000. This
>> 
>> example should be easy to reference against your race car assuming you
>> 
>> are familiar with high school math!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This is the same setup I used in my old TR4 racer and the TR3, except my
>> 
>> 4-cylinder racers use a Moldex crank, Carillos and a cam that ran to
>> 
>> 7000. With the additional revs afforded by the billet bottom end, I
>> 
>> don't need the overdrive to enhance the top end. Again, it's all in the
>> 
>> math.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My line through Big Bend and the Uphill are not optimal, but that is a
>> 
>> conversation for another time.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Watch the tack twitch as I crest the Uphill, you know you did OK when
>> 
>> you get a little wheelspin there!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Henry Frye
>> 
>> KCup chair
>> 
>> 860.508.3118
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> 
>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
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>> 
>>  
>> 
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Sat Jun  7 15:12:29 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 17:12:29 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock - Groups for Fri Qualifying/Practice and Sat
 Race
In-Reply-To: <05a4d6790e31037cc588dff1edfbbf2f@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1749330788.12017.fot@autox.team.net>

Henry,Thanks for the update, and plan.Looking forward to being there.MarkSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: yellow04 <yellow04 at tr4racer.com> Date: 6/7/25  2:09 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Mark Cook <mecook at mindspring.com>, FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Lime Rock - Groups for Fri Qualifying/Practice and Sat Race 
Mark,
At this point, we have 33 cars entered so we intend to run all Triumphs in the same group. If we get another 10 cars or so, we will be looking to move some of the slowest and/or fastest cars to appropriate groups.
The only caveat is cars running on slicks. If someone has no other option or insists on running slicks, they will be the first to get moved to the big bore group for all races leading up to the Kastner Cup race, but we all run together for the Cup on Monday after lunch.
In a couple weeks I will be focusing heavily on planning our weekend at Lime Rock, stay tuned for more as it becomes available!
Cheers?
?
On 2025-06-07 11:24, Mark Cook wrote:


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Henry,
?
Thanks for the info on gearing.? Video was helpful as well for having not ever driven Lime Rock.
?
Was looking at the Lime Rock HF43 posted race groups.? Question.? Will we run in Group 5 as a single group for Friday's practice/qualifying and Saturday's races as well as the Kastner Cup on Monday?? Or, run in multiple groups, like they have listed below (TR250/6 2500cc in the 2.5 Litre or Over 2 Litre as example)? ??I assume multiple groups except for Monday?s event.
?
Thanks,
?
Mark Cook
?
https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival/hf-driver-information/
?
HF43 Groups and Classes
?
The following race groups are our tentative run groups:
?
Group 1 ? Mid Century GT / Sportscars Under 2 Litre
??? Under 1.3L
??? Over 1.3L
?
Group 5 ? Triumph Feature ? Kastner Cup
??? Triumph Under 1.6L
??? Triumph Over 1.6L
??? Triumph Over 2.2L
?
Group 6 ? Tin Tops / IMSA RS / Under 2.5 Litre Cars
??? Under 1.3L
??? Over 1.3L
?
Group 9 ? GT / Sportscars Over 2 Litre / Sports Racing Cars
??? GT
??? Sportscars
??? Sports Racers
?
?
?
?
?
-----Original Message-----From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via FotSent: Thursday, June 5, 2025 12:23 PMTo: FOTSubject: [Fot] Gearing for Lime Rock
?
If this comes through twice, I apologize. Working through some technical
difficulties with my mail server.
?
I have been asked by numerous folks about what rear end gear to run at
Lime Rock. Several of our guys with a lot more laps at Lime Rock than I
do have chimed in, thanks everyone for your input. Sometimes a picture
is worth a thousand words, so here's my input.
?
https://youtu.be/xIg5KQwM-pw
?
I clipped a lap from my in-car camera from the 2024 Lime Rock Vintage
Festival. My tach is plainly visible and I added captions on what I am
doing with the gearbox. The lap shown is somewhere in the mid-1.05's.
The camera is one of those Go-Pro knockoffs, so the quality is junk, but
it got the job done. The sound was cut, if you heard what the camera
records for sound you would thank me!
?
The gearing I use in the TR250 is a 4:10 R&P, a Triumph gearbox with
close ratio gears, a stock Laycock overdrive and I am running on Hoosier
Speedsters with a diameter of 24.2 inches. My shift point is 6000. This
example should be easy to reference against your race car assuming you
are familiar with high school math!
?
This is the same setup I used in my old TR4 racer and the TR3, except my
4-cylinder racers use a Moldex crank, Carillos and a cam that ran to
7000. With the additional revs afforded by the billet bottom end, I
don't need the overdrive to enhance the top end. Again, it's all in the
math.
?
My line through Big Bend and the Uphill are not optimal, but that is a
conversation for another time.
?
Watch the tack twitch as I crest the Uphill, you know you did OK when
you get a little wheelspin there!
?
Hope this helps.
?
Henry Frye
KCup chair
860.508.3118
_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net
?
http://www.fot-racing.com
?
Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sat Jun  7 15:18:58 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 17:18:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock - Groups for Fri Qualifying/Practice and Sat
 Race
In-Reply-To: <2FBD0391-E213-4555-971D-AB5916E0C57E@optonline.net>
References: <05a4d6790e31037cc588dff1edfbbf2f@tr4racer.com>
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Todd, 

Motorsportsreg gives sanctioning bodies the option to mask the entry
list, and for whatever reason this event has always done it this way. I
believe the list does go public as we get pretty close to the event.  

Henry Frye

On 2025-06-07 16:35, Alfetta95 wrote:

> Is there a list of entries somewhere?  Motorsportsreg still shows no entries.  But it says I'm registered.   
> 
> Just curious 
> Todd 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2025, at 3:56?PM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>> Mark, 
>> 
>> At this point, we have 33 cars entered so we intend to run all Triumphs in the same group. If we get another 10 cars or so, we will be looking to move some of the slowest and/or fastest cars to appropriate groups. 
>> 
>> The only caveat is cars running on slicks. If someone has no other option or insists on running slicks, they will be the first to get moved to the big bore group for all races leading up to the Kastner Cup race, but we all run together for the Cup on Monday after lunch. 
>> 
>> In a couple weeks I will be focusing heavily on planning our weekend at Lime Rock, stay tuned for more as it becomes available! 
>> 
>> Cheers
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From mikekowalski1944 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 09:47:15 2025
From: mikekowalski1944 at gmail.com (Michael Kowalski)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 09:47:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Not sure how to post this on FOT
In-Reply-To: <1985668469.121503.1749089878197@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1489119154.111802.1749087702280.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1489119154.111802.1749087702280@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1985668469.121503.1749089878197@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+n2efC4eLsjwxJifYPX=qkEnOdZ=-w+U07ij8eDwbq7Q51UZQ@mail.gmail.com>

All: As Scott asked, is this an acceptable format for listing parts. I hope
that I have not broken a  rule.  I would like to know if anybody has a need
for leftovers from my FP 1500 Spit?
I have:
1) a set of dual 1.5" Zeniths carbs on a manifold
2) a GT 6 aluminum bell housing
3) a modified GT 6 trans
4) a 1500 crank that was machined to a .0001" in Houston (albeit, years ago)
and, oh yes, a 1500 Spit hardtop ---but the backlight is yellowed and the
seal is dead.
mike kowalski
Raton,NM
575-447-3265

On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 8:17?PM Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Scott and FOT-ers,
>
> Here is the link: 1962 Triumph Spitfire Mk 1 Race Car
> <https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-triumph-spitfire/>. GLWS!
>
> 1962 Triumph Spitfire Mk 1 Race Car
>
> Bid for the chance to own a 1962 Triumph Spitfire Mk 1 Race Car at auction
> with Bring a Trailer, the home of the...
> <https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-triumph-spitfire/>
>
> V/r,
>
> M. Huovinen
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 4, 2025 at 10:13:58 PM EDT, Scott Meredith via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I have my 1962 Spitfire vintage racecar listed on the Bring a Trailer web
> site -
> Scott Meredith
>
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Jun  8 12:46:28 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 14:46:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Not sure how to post this on FOT
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References: <1489119154.111802.1749087702280.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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We do like to keep the commercial aspect of things to a minimum. An
occasional post from an FOT member trying to sell Triumph race cars or
related bits seems to be acceptable, you know what they say...
Everything in moderation. 

But since we have no rules it's hard to say for sure!

On 2025-06-05 11:47, Michael Kowalski via Fot wrote:

> All: As Scott asked, is this an acceptable format for listing parts. I hope that I have not broken a  rule.  I would like to know if anybody has a need for leftovers from my FP 1500 Spit? 
> I have:
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From mikekowalski1944 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  8 13:39:55 2025
From: mikekowalski1944 at gmail.com (Michael Kowalski)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2025 13:39:55 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Not sure how to post this on FOT
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References: <1489119154.111802.1749087702280.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <1985668469.121503.1749089878197@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thanks for the answer.

On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 12:46?PM yellow04 <yellow04 at tr4racer.com> wrote:

> We do like to keep the commercial aspect of things to a minimum. An
> occasional post from an FOT member trying to sell Triumph race cars or
> related bits seems to be acceptable, you know what they say... Everything
> in moderation.
>
> But since we have no rules it's hard to say for sure!
>
>
>
> On 2025-06-05 11:47, Michael Kowalski via Fot wrote:
>
> All: As Scott asked, is this an acceptable format for listing parts. I
> hope that I have not broken a  rule.  I would like to know if anybody has a
> need for leftovers from my FP 1500 Spit?
> I have:
>
>
>
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Tue Jun 10 05:05:27 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 07:05:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Entries for the 2025 Kastner Cup race - Lime Rock Historics 43
Message-ID: <cd7a0c59c8cc251476b6c7c0a2648d60@tr4racer.com>

The entries for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock stand at 35. Comparing the 
list of those who reached out to me several months ago showing their 
interest to the current entry list, I see many have not yet registered.

We have several moving parts involved planning the event, and it does 
make life easier on all the organizers if you folks who are intending on 
coming actually register sooner rather than later! The event has a 
liberal cancellation policy, you will receive a full refund if you 
cancel two weeks before the event, August 16th. So please register!

https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/historic-festival-43-race-car-entry-lime-rock-park-093569

Here is the list of our entries so far.

Schuster Vic AMBRO
Brown Richard Spitfire
Brown Thomas Spitfire
Cutter David Spitfire
Gagne Claude Spitfire
Gosselin Kevin Spitfire
Gussack David Spitfire
Harmuth Mike Spitfire
Janzen Scott GT6
Ostrowski Jason GT6
Schirano Brian GT6
King Jeff GT6 Mk3
Frymark John GT6+
Fritz Lorne TR3
Garmey Tony TR3
McCurdy Rick TR3
Styduhar John TR3
Boruch Joe TR3A
Redmond Todd TR3a
Drews Tony TR4
Gott Dave TR4
Thompson Greg TR4
Wheatley Mark TR4
Gee Chuck TR4A
Gott Phil TR4A
Riddle Dave TR4A
Howlett Brian TR-4A IRS
Frye Henry TR250
Cook Mark TR6
Hollowell Walt TR6
Horner Jaime TR6
Kurtz Mike TR6
Lang Bob TR6
Podmore Tom TR6
Schlesinger Alex TR7 coupe

I think this list is about 10 racers short of where I suspect we will 
end up. There are some obvious omissions, I have reached out to several 
folks who have indicated they are coming and will get right on that 
whole registration thing!

This is going to be a memorable event, it will be the first time we have 
gotten together and actually get some down time on Sunday to get to know 
Triumph racers we have perhaps emailed with but never met. A rough count 
shows we have 6 racers from the middle of the country, 4 racers from the 
west, and one from Canada! (Hi Claude, see you tomorrow at Mosport!)

Cheers

Henry Frye
KCup chair, Lime Rock 2025 and Mosport 2026
860.508.3118

From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Tue Jun 10 06:49:46 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 08:49:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Addition to the list
Message-ID: <657ddf8c51dec4442fcdf490d265ddfd@tr4racer.com>

I am pleased to inform everyone we are now at 36 entries, I just got 
word from Tim Cook that he will be joining us in his TR8. For those of 
you who may not know Tim, he is Mike Cook's son. Yeah, that Mike Cook!

Tim ran the VRG drivers school last month, those of us who were there 
saw the beautiful job he did starting with a real Group 44 TR7 and 
converting it into a fire breathing TR8. Tim rocked the driver's school, 
easily being the class of the field and getting more comfortable in the 
seat.

Let's keep those registrations coming and race with the son of Triumph 
royalty!

Henry Frye

From dave at microworks.net  Tue Jun 10 12:14:41 2025
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 18:14:41 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FW: Le Monstre Roars Into Lime Rock
In-Reply-To: <1142221130350.1129792532533.2026399753.0.881400JL.2002@synd.ccsend.com>
References: <1142221130350.1129792532533.2026399753.0.881400JL.2002@synd.ccsend.com>
Message-ID: <SN7PR14MB70436453E35E8DC05FF1ABA8B56AA@SN7PR14MB7043.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Derek is a great guy and was fun to race with at Laguna Seca, especially in the rain.  Nice to see he is bringing the car back over to the States and will be at Lime Rock

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Dave Riddle
602.692.5276

From: Lime Rock Park <info at limerock.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2025 11:04 AM
To: Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net>
Subject: Le Monstre Roars Into Lime Rock

Plus Dyson IndyCars & More at HF43



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Le Monstre crosses the Atlantic to race at

Lime Rock Park Historic Festival 43 for the first time. Don?t miss this legendary tribute in motion.?

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British builder Derek Drinkwater?s faithful replica of Briggs Cunningham?s 1950 Le Mans Cadillac is more than a showpiece?it?s a fully functional race car, and it?s coming to Historic Festival 43. See it on track this Labor Day weekend at Lime Rock Park, where this American racing legend comes full circle.

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The Drive to Win: The Rob Dyson Story

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From a Datsun 510 to IMSA titles, Rolex 24 wins, and Le Mans, Rob Dyson built one of America?s great racing teams. Based in Poughkeepsie, NY, Dyson Racing calls Lime Rock Park its home track?where the team?s Porsche 962 scored a famous 1985 victory. This year, fans will see highlights from Dyson?s remarkable vintage collection on display at the Historic Festival.

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Every great festival deserves a proper kickoff?

?and ours begins with the Historic Festival Parade!?


On Thursday, August 28, 125 vintage race and sportscars will roll out of Lime Rock Park at 5 PM for a 17-mile tour through Lime Rock, Salisbury, and Lakeville, ending in Falls Village with a street fair, food, refreshments, and live music by Wanda Houston!



A heartfelt thank you to The Falls Village Inn and NBT Bank for their generous support ? and for helping bring this one-of-a-kind celebration to our community.



Open to pre-1975 two-door sporting cars. First come, first served, and based on vehicle eligibility. To be considered, email your name, phone number, and year, make and model of your car to Walter.

EMAIL WALTER HERE<mailto:walter at limerock.com>

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The Little MG That Won the

?Pebble Beach Road Races


After World War II, returning American GIs helped ignite a national love affair with nimble British sports cars?none more influential than the MG. Affordable, lightweight, and fun to drive, MGs packed early U.S. racing grids and fueled the growth of amateur sports car racing. One of the most famous was the Von Neumann Special, a modified MG TD that shocked the field by winning the prestigious 1951 Pebble Beach Road Race. Fans can see this legendary car in action at Historic Festival 43, where Rob Manson will race the #11 Special as part of 11 Del Monte Trophy Race Group cars, competing against Le Monstre and East Coast entries in a thrilling East vs. West showdown.

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Ferrari V12 Elegance: Classic Coupes to Star at

?Lime Rock Historic Festival Concours


Throughout history and even into the present day, the performance and technical prestige of V12 engines have had an almost mystical appeal. One visionary carmaker to exploit their unique marketing value was Enzo Ferrari, who launched his eponymous firm in 1947 with a 1.5-liter V12 designed by engineer Gioacchino Colombo. Though Ferrari has since employed other engine configurations, Ferrari's legacy is inseparable from that initial powertrain selection, which will be celebrated at this year's Historic Festival Concours with a curated selection of classic 12-cylinder Ferrari coupes.



For Ferrari restorer Tom Yang, the enduring appeal of the Ferrari V12 comes from its characteristic mechanical music: "Not many other cars sound like that," he says. "Ripping canvas, howl and scream, whatever you want to call it, you know right away it's a Ferrari. Of course, the cars are beautiful inside out, but the fact they sound great really sets them apart."



One of the featured cars at this year's Concours will be a rare 250 Short Wheelbase (SWB). One of Ferrari's most celebrated road and racing cars, the SWB was designed by Pininfarina and built by Scaglietti. Its name derives from its 2,400 mm wheelbase, whose improved handling and agility propelled it to GT racing dominance ahead of the 250 GTO. The SWB was first shown in the US when Luigi Chinetti Sr. selected it for display at the 1960 New York Auto Show.



At the other extreme of Ferrari V12s on display will be an 812 Superfast. Producing just under 800 hp from its 6.5L V12, it's capable of a top speed of 211 mph with 0-60 mph in 2.8 seconds, making it the most powerful naturally aspirated production car engine at the time of its launch in 2017.

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Honoring Kas Kastner: The Kastner Cup Comes to Lime Rock

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The Kastner Cup?one of vintage racing?s most celebrated all-Triumph events?is coming to the Historic Festival for the very first time. Watch a 33-car grid of Spitfires, TRs, and GT6s battle it out in honor of Triumph legend R.W. ?Kas? Kastner. It?s a can?t-miss moment for British sports car fans.

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Coming to Lime Rock for the First Time: ?The Ragtime Racers

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For the first time, the Ragtime Racers are bringing pre-1920 race cars to Historic Festival 43. These are real machines from the earliest days of motorsport?crank-started by hand and run like they were a century ago. Don?t miss their live track exhibitions and one-of-a-kind period paddock display.

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Ready to Race, Show, or Parade? Register Now!

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Competitors.

?Register Now.

Join the grid at one of the most prestigious vintage racing events in America?where history, speed, and passion come together. Led by Event Chairman Skip Barber, HF 43 draws an exceptional field of cars and drivers to the iconic Lime Rock Park.

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Entry deadline is August 1.

Have questions?

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Sunday in the Park Concours.

A showcase of rare and historically significant cars, lining the Lime Rock circuit with world-class automotive excellence. For this year's classes and application Click HERE<https://vb7dog7ab.cc.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001u3_YgIjysND0rYiFqSP3nf9Ms7ADyr1vvMTufs-tRup0tNAS_mpWfIakiWwH4--aTTZWkw8ZrAVyKnKtbypkQSaT8l_8QjMUQB8VNdMF5mpnAEyJbGkS2bxXgnRvIgl8Be_GLuEVU7CH5NIqjq_M9TDB0lQeIOXXWEdr4FpF3vp7GYjJ_6noJu2KPBuR-rrVKmCZbaEwUU8hHUC5ZeVQL-oLomSPE50dqhciNDYIzos=&c=wV_xmW-Qg71X8XANWwv84eRfeA8tzfjHW8DpCLiJ2Fa5H5QDxX8PxA==&ch=KAIoPvmnYw2kgKhVNYzSgXzj6stZlcZwo1HHqCnA7zQ5pEh1CWty_g==>.



Gathering of the Marques

Bring your cherished classic or vintage car and join fellow enthusiasts along the track. No registration needed?get tickets online or at the gate.
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Win two weekend tickets for HF43!

Don?t miss your chance to win two adult weekend passes ($360 value) to this year?s Historic Festival. Just find our A-Frame on the midway and scan the QR code to enter. Congrats to Brian from Canton, Connecticut ? he?s heading to HF43 on us! Your next chance to win is during the LiUNA 150 NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series Race, June 27?28.

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 14:04:40 2025
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 16:04:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Le Monstre Roars Into Lime Rock
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 10 14:34:52 2025
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 20:34:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Revolution lug nut needed 1/2-20
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Hi FOT,
One of my lug nuts had a disagreement on threading on the same path I intended. ? Revolution hasn?t sourced these in 30 years when I asked them 5years ago. ?This is a 1/20-20 thread, with a shank .74? in diameter, 2.5? deep. ?I?ve found some new ones 1? deep, but would prefer to get a similar length as designed. ?Anyone happen to have one kicking around, by chance? I cannot find a source.
Thanks!?Dave Gott#80 TR4





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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Jun 10 15:06:34 2025
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (MACDONALD)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 17:06:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Addition to the list
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Really nice build and car, but don?t think it started as a Group 44 car, just added that bodywork.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2025, at 9:10?AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I am pleased to inform everyone we are now at 36 entries, I just got word from Tim Cook that he will be joining us in his TR8. For those of you who may not know Tim, he is Mike Cook's son. Yeah, that Mike Cook!
> 
> Tim ran the VRG drivers school last month, those of us who were there saw the beautiful job he did starting with a real Group 44 TR7 and converting it into a fire breathing TR8. Tim rocked the driver's school, easily being the class of the field and getting more comfortable in the seat.
> 
> Let's keep those registrations coming and race with the son of Triumph royalty!
> 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Jun 10 16:15:31 2025
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 00:15:31 +0200
Subject: [Fot] The IMSA TR8 is going to Lausitzring
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Curious how this is going. First time on this track.



 

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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 16:38:04 2025
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 18:38:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Revolution lug nut needed 1/2-20
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Jun 10 17:00:00 2025
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 19:00:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Revolution lug nut needed 1/2-20
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 18:56:23 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 20:56:23 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Revolution lug nut needed 1/2-20
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Dave, I read that Cragar rims use the same lugs. if so, Dorman makes
one.The specs look right.
Dorman #  611-157.1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134876641144

On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 6:41?PM David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi FOT,
>
> One of my lug nuts had a disagreement on threading on the same path I
> intended.   Revolution hasn?t sourced these in 30 years when I asked them
> 5years ago.  This is a 1/20-20 thread, with a shank .74? in diameter, 2.5?
> deep.  I?ve found some new ones 1? deep, but would prefer to get a similar
> length as designed.  Anyone happen to have one kicking around, by chance? I
> cannot find a source.
>
> Thanks!
> Dave Gott
> #80 TR4
>
>
>
>
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 10 19:16:11 2025
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 01:16:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Revolution lug nut needed 1/2-20
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Thanks Mike! ?Unfortunately the Cragar style is for an 11/16 hole versus my 3/4?. ? I?ve found one that is 1? long as my best bet so far?


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On Tuesday, June 10, 2025, 8:56 PM, Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com> wrote:

Dave, I read that Cragar rims use the same lugs. if so, Dorman makes one.The specs look right.Dorman #?611-157.1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134876641144
On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 6:41?PM David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi FOT,
One of my lug nuts had a disagreement on threading on the same path I intended. ? Revolution hasn?t sourced these in 30 years when I asked them 5years ago.? This is a 1/20-20 thread, with a shank .74? in diameter, 2.5? deep.? I?ve found some new ones 1? deep, but would prefer to get a similar length as designed.? Anyone happen to have one kicking around, by chance? I cannot find a source.
Thanks!?Dave Gott#80 TR4





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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Jun 10 20:50:59 2025
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 21:50:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Entries for the 2025 Kastner Cup race - Lime Rock
 Historics 43
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Lots of Triumph hero?s on that entry list. Friends, foes and all kinds of cool. 
This might be the best All Triumph race yet staged. 
I?m honored to be the obvious favorite driver on the the whole list.
 Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars.

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> On Jun 10, 2025, at 6:24 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?The entries for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock stand at 35. Comparing the list of those who reached out to me several months ago showing their interest to the current entry list, I see many have not yet registered.
> 
> We have several moving parts involved planning the event, and it does make life easier on all the organizers if you folks who are intending on coming actually register sooner rather than later! The event has a liberal cancellation policy, you will receive a full refund if you cancel two weeks before the event, August 16th. So please register!
> 
> https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/historic-festival-43-race-car-entry-lime-rock-park-093569
> 
> Here is the list of our entries so far.
> 
> Schuster Vic AMBRO
> Brown Richard Spitfire
> Brown Thomas Spitfire
> Cutter David Spitfire
> Gagne Claude Spitfire
> Gosselin Kevin Spitfire
> Gussack David Spitfire
> Harmuth Mike Spitfire
> Janzen Scott GT6
> Ostrowski Jason GT6
> Schirano Brian GT6
> King Jeff GT6 Mk3
> Frymark John GT6+
> Fritz Lorne TR3
> Garmey Tony TR3
> McCurdy Rick TR3
> Styduhar John TR3
> Boruch Joe TR3A
> Redmond Todd TR3a
> Drews Tony TR4
> Gott Dave TR4
> Thompson Greg TR4
> Wheatley Mark TR4
> Gee Chuck TR4A
> Gott Phil TR4A
> Riddle Dave TR4A
> Howlett Brian TR-4A IRS
> Frye Henry TR250
> Cook Mark TR6
> Hollowell Walt TR6
> Horner Jaime TR6
> Kurtz Mike TR6
> Lang Bob TR6
> Podmore Tom TR6
> Schlesinger Alex TR7 coupe
> 
> I think this list is about 10 racers short of where I suspect we will end up. There are some obvious omissions, I have reached out to several folks who have indicated they are coming and will get right on that whole registration thing!
> 
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> 
> Henry Frye
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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Jun 11 03:07:30 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 03:07:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Entries for the 2025 Kastner Cup race - Lime Rock
 Historics 43
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On 6/10/25 8:50 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot wrote:
> Lots of Triumph hero?s on that entry list. Friends, foes and all kinds of cool.
> This might be the best All Triumph race yet staged.

And I am not going to be there, drat!  Sounds like a great weekend!

mjb.


From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Wed Jun 11 06:15:43 2025
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 12:15:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Entries for the 2025 Kastner Cup race - Lime Rock
 Historics 43
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Jason, I voted for you!

Have a Good Day
Mike

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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2025 10:51 PM
To: yellow04 <yellow04 at tr4racer.com>
Cc: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries for the 2025 Kastner Cup race - Lime Rock Historics 43

Lots of Triumph hero?s on that entry list. Friends, foes and all kinds of cool. 
This might be the best All Triumph race yet staged. 
I?m honored to be the obvious favorite driver on the the whole list.
 Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2025, at 6:24 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?The entries for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock stand at 35. Comparing the list of those who reached out to me several months ago showing their interest to the current entry list, I see many have not yet registered.
> 
> We have several moving parts involved planning the event, and it does make life easier on all the organizers if you folks who are intending on coming actually register sooner rather than later! The event has a liberal cancellation policy, you will receive a full refund if you cancel two weeks before the event, August 16th. So please register!
> 
> https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/historic-festival-43-race-car-entry-lime-rock-park-093569
> 
> Here is the list of our entries so far.
> 
> Schuster Vic AMBRO
> Brown Richard Spitfire
> Brown Thomas Spitfire
> Cutter David Spitfire
> Gagne Claude Spitfire
> Gosselin Kevin Spitfire
> Gussack David Spitfire
> Harmuth Mike Spitfire
> Janzen Scott GT6
> Ostrowski Jason GT6
> Schirano Brian GT6
> King Jeff GT6 Mk3
> Frymark John GT6+
> Fritz Lorne TR3
> Garmey Tony TR3
> McCurdy Rick TR3
> Styduhar John TR3
> Boruch Joe TR3A
> Redmond Todd TR3a
> Drews Tony TR4
> Gott Dave TR4
> Thompson Greg TR4
> Wheatley Mark TR4
> Gee Chuck TR4A
> Gott Phil TR4A
> Riddle Dave TR4A
> Howlett Brian TR-4A IRS
> Frye Henry TR250
> Cook Mark TR6
> Hollowell Walt TR6
> Horner Jaime TR6
> Kurtz Mike TR6
> Lang Bob TR6
> Podmore Tom TR6
> Schlesinger Alex TR7 coupe
> 
> I think this list is about 10 racers short of where I suspect we will end up. There are some obvious omissions, I have reached out to several folks who have indicated they are coming and will get right on that whole registration thing!
> 
> This is going to be a memorable event, it will be the first time we have gotten together and actually get some down time on Sunday to get to know Triumph racers we have perhaps emailed with but never met. A rough count shows we have 6 racers from the middle of the country, 4 racers from the west, and one from Canada! (Hi Claude, see you tomorrow at Mosport!)
> 
> Cheers
> 
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Wed Jun 11 08:31:00 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 10:31:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions
Message-ID: <006501dbdadd$73fbc8f0$5bf35ad0$@mindspring.com>

All,

 

So, I have gutted and stripped the #55 '69 TR6 race car first purchased,
having a proper roll cage installed and painted, and will be installing a
newly built engine with triple Weber 45 DCOEs.  Will be ordering some parts
while cage is installed and body painted.

 

Brings me to my questions.   What size fuel lines - 5/16" (-5) or 3/8" (-6)?
Also, thoughts on 100% steel braided PTFE, or combination of metal fuel line
(front to back) with braided to connect to the fuel cell and Webers?  Fuel
pump, filter and pressure regulator will be in the trunk with the fuel cell.
Return line?  The 6 previously had fuel injection and a fuel return line.
Not sure it is necessary for the Webers.

 

Thanks!

 

Mark Cook

 

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Owner 2018-2023
Now (coffee table stage)


         

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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Jun 11 22:07:55 2025
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 23:07:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions
In-Reply-To: <006501dbdadd$73fbc8f0$5bf35ad0$@mindspring.com>
References: <006501dbdadd$73fbc8f0$5bf35ad0$@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <6B5B6645-7B29-45D2-BE44-B604A04EAE9A@multivintage.com>

Lots of questions there. 
I?m not a TR6 guy but I?d like the fuel pressure regulator to be in the engine compartment. For Tuning and regulating purposes; close to where you are at when you?re watching the motor and gauges.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing 
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2025, at 10:17 AM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> All,
>  
> So, I have gutted and stripped the #55 ?69 TR6 race car first purchased, having a proper roll cage installed and painted, and will be installing a newly built engine with triple Weber 45 DCOEs.  Will be ordering some parts while cage is installed and body painted.
>  
> Brings me to my questions.   What size fuel lines ? 5/16? (-5) or 3/8? (-6)?  Also, thoughts on 100% steel braided PTFE, or combination of metal fuel line (front to back) with braided to connect to the fuel cell and Webers?  Fuel pump, filter and pressure regulator will be in the trunk with the fuel cell.   Return line?  The 6 previously had fuel injection and a fuel return line.  Not sure it is necessary for the Webers.
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Mark Cook
>  
> During Chuck Arnold?s ownership (pre-2018)                             Prior Owner 2018-2023                                                                          Now (coffee table stage)                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Thu Jun 12 00:59:12 2025
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (rocky spitfire4.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 06:59:12 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions
In-Reply-To: <6B5B6645-7B29-45D2-BE44-B604A04EAE9A@multivintage.com>
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For years I just had the stock metal line in my full-race Spitfire, which ran under the floorboard. Eventually it got pinched. The system I installed was an ATL cell in the trunk, with a duckfoot pickup in each back corner, two Holley red fuel pumps leading to a T-fitting ? all in the trunk ? then a single line through the passenger compartment just under the door (as far from me as possible) to a regulator under the hood mounted on the firewall, then to the carbs. Regulator has a gauge installed where I can see it. I don?t really refer to it while driving (although I can), primarily I use it when setting fuel pressure to the carbs. For the Spitfire 2? pounds of fuel pressure was wholly sufficient (the Holleys would deliver 7). For the TR6 maybe something else. Oh, and ALL lines braided since they were all vulnerable.

I ordered my fuel cell direct from ATL and specified the two pickups. Roundy-round guys usually only have one, in the right-rear corner, because they only turn left. We go both ways. I also ordered the cell with a dipstick to know the fuel level. And then [?]  discovered that while the cell had the place to put the dipstick in, the foam inside did not! I had to take the top off, pull the foam out, figure out where the hole needed to be and cut the hole in the foam. Then the first time I filled the cell, I filled it one gallon at a time and marked the dipstick. It?s worked great ever since. I also learned not to fill the cell full to the top because it would splash out of the overflow and corners got all excited that I was spilling gas. Filling it a gallon short got me through all races. For autocrossing (with the two pickups) 3 gallons worked fine.

--Rocky Entriken

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2025 11:08 PM
To: Mark Cook <mecook at mindspring.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions

Lots of questions there.
I?m not a TR6 guy but I?d like the fuel pressure regulator to be in the engine compartment. For Tuning and regulating purposes; close to where you are at when you?re watching the motor and gauges.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 11, 2025, at 10:17 AM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
?
All,

So, I have gutted and stripped the #55 ?69 TR6 race car first purchased, having a proper roll cage installed and painted, and will be installing a newly built engine with triple Weber 45 DCOEs.  Will be ordering some parts while cage is installed and body painted.

Brings me to my questions.   What size fuel lines ? 5/16? (-5) or 3/8? (-6)?  Also, thoughts on 100% steel braided PTFE, or combination of metal fuel line (front to back) with braided to connect to the fuel cell and Webers?  Fuel pump, filter and pressure regulator will be in the trunk with the fuel cell.   Return line?  The 6 previously had fuel injection and a fuel return line.  Not sure it is necessary for the Webers.

Thanks!

Mark Cook

During Chuck Arnold?s ownership (pre-2018)                             Prior Owner 2018-2023                                                                          Now (coffee table stage)

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 05:11:05 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 07:11:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions
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Mark, here's a link to a chart that specs out what size fuel line to run
based on things like HP and fuel type.

https://historicracinggroup.com/resources/Reference_Material/Canton/Fuel%20Consumption%20and%20Flow%20Quick%20Ref%20by%20CM%20Filters.pdf

I run metal braided lines (AN) fitting type in the trunk and under the
bonnet (with bulkhead fittings) and metal lines in the cockpit, Fuel reg
with gauge in the engine bay where I can see what's getting delivered at
the engine.

mike h


On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 11:13?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> All,
>
>
>
> So, I have gutted and stripped the #55 ?69 TR6 race car first purchased,
> having a proper roll cage installed and painted, and will be installing a
> newly built engine with triple Weber 45 DCOEs.  Will be ordering some parts
> while cage is installed and body painted.
>
>
>
> Brings me to my questions.   What size fuel lines ? 5/16? (-5) or 3/8?
> (-6)?  Also, thoughts on 100% steel braided PTFE, or combination of metal
> fuel line (front to back) with braided to connect to the fuel cell and
> Webers?  Fuel pump, filter and pressure regulator will be in the trunk with
> the fuel cell.   Return line?  The 6 previously had fuel injection and a
> fuel return line.  Not sure it is necessary for the Webers.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Mark Cook
>
>
>
> During Chuck Arnold?s ownership (pre-2018)
> Prior Owner 2018-2023
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> stage)
>
>
>
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jun 12 05:15:47 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 07:15:47 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VARAC put us in the Program!
Message-ID: <ac62f8a92959f1eda733770918349ce9@tr4racer.com>

We are settling in at Mosport for the 2025 VARAC Vintage Grand Prix, and 
I was thumbing through the Program and on the inside last page, I see we 
already got a great plug! Take a look at the attachment, how cool is 
that.

Everybody is excited to see the Triumphs bring our Kastner Cup show to 
the 2026 VGP! Mark your calendars for June 18 - 21, 2026!

But first, everyone keep focusing on Lime Rock!  :-)

Henry Frye
KCup Chair, 2025 and 2026
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jun 12 06:17:24 2025
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 08:17:24 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions
In-Reply-To: <6B5B6645-7B29-45D2-BE44-B604A04EAE9A@multivintage.com>
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I agree with Jason on the location of the regulator. My Holly regulator is mounted on the firewall bulkhead, with a tap for the fuel pressure gauge on the dash right off the regulator.
My GT6 runs triple webers, 6 AN line from the rear. The pump is a facet 40?105, puts out plenty of fuel flow. It?s rated at one to four psi. My regulator is set for a three psi discharge. Webers don?t like to see any more than that.. Fuel filter in the rear upstream of the pump. It?s a fram canister filter.
As a sidenote, I think having the fuel pressure gauge visible is handy so you have a confirmation that the fuel pump is working fine. That said, those facets seem to run forever, and I just replaced my first one after 15 years.
One thing I think you?ll find with the webers, which are great, is that they have big float bowls. When you shut off the car, shut off the fuel pump first, and let it run a couple minutes to drain down the fuel bowls. That way you don?t have hot fuel from the exhaust manifold heat when you try to start the car again.
Seems to work much better! I?m usually killing the fuel pump as I roll off the track into the pits.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2025, at 12:27?AM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Lots of questions there. 
> I?m not a TR6 guy but I?d like the fuel pressure regulator to be in the engine compartment. For Tuning and regulating purposes; close to where you are at when you?re watching the motor and gauges.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing 
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2025, at 10:17 AM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> All,
>>  
>> So, I have gutted and stripped the #55 ?69 TR6 race car first purchased, having a proper roll cage installed and painted, and will be installing a newly built engine with triple Weber 45 DCOEs.  Will be ordering some parts while cage is installed and body painted.
>>  
>> Brings me to my questions.   What size fuel lines ? 5/16? (-5) or 3/8? (-6)?  Also, thoughts on 100% steel braided PTFE, or combination of metal fuel line (front to back) with braided to connect to the fuel cell and Webers?  Fuel pump, filter and pressure regulator will be in the trunk with the fuel cell.   Return line?  The 6 previously had fuel injection and a fuel return line.  Not sure it is necessary for the Webers.
>>  
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> Mark Cook
>>  
>> During Chuck Arnold?s ownership (pre-2018)                             Prior Owner 2018-2023                                                                          Now (coffee table stage)                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 06:35:36 2025
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 07:35:36 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions
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Holley makes a pickup attachment called Hydramat that will suck fuel from
anywhere it touches making the one pickup style fuel cells even better than
adding a second pickup. We use it in the ChampCar. Before we added one we
found that we would have fuel pickup issues with a couple of gallons of
fuel in the cell. The strategy we use on our 15 gallon tank is to start
full, run 2 hours, add 10 gallons at each stop and before the Hydramat we
had drivers coming in early  for a "miss", throwing off the whole plan. The
only drawback is that you can completely run out of fuel. It'll miss and
then stop pretty quickly!

www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/hydramat/

On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 2:12?AM rocky spitfire4.com via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> For years I just had the stock metal line in my full-race Spitfire, which
> ran under the floorboard. Eventually it got pinched. The system I installed
> was an ATL cell in the trunk, with a duckfoot pickup in each back corner,
> two Holley red fuel pumps leading to a T-fitting ? all in the trunk ? then
> a single line through the passenger compartment just under the door (as far
> from me as possible) to a regulator under the hood mounted on the firewall,
> then to the carbs. Regulator has a gauge installed where I can see it. I
> don?t really refer to it while driving (although I can), primarily I use it
> when setting fuel pressure to the carbs. For the Spitfire 2? pounds of fuel
> pressure was wholly sufficient (the Holleys would deliver 7). For the TR6
> maybe something else. Oh, and ALL lines braided since they were all
> vulnerable.
>
>
>
> I ordered my fuel cell direct from ATL and specified the two pickups.
> Roundy-round guys usually only have one, in the right-rear corner, because
> they only turn left. We go both ways. I also ordered the cell with a
> dipstick to know the fuel level. And then [image: ?] discovered that
> while the cell had the place to put the dipstick in, the foam inside did
> not! I had to take the top off, pull the foam out, figure out where the
> hole needed to be and cut the hole in the foam. Then the first time I
> filled the cell, I filled it one gallon at a time and marked the dipstick.
> It?s worked great ever since. I also learned not to fill the cell full to
> the top because it would splash out of the overflow and corners got all
> excited that I was spilling gas. Filling it a gallon short got me through
> all races. For autocrossing (with the two pickups) 3 gallons worked fine.
>
>
>
> --Rocky Entriken
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jason Ostrowski
> via Fot
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 11, 2025 11:08 PM
> *To:* Mark Cook <mecook at mindspring.com>
> *Cc:* Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions
>
>
>
> Lots of questions there.
>
> I?m not a TR6 guy but I?d like the fuel pressure regulator to be in the
> engine compartment. For Tuning and regulating purposes; close to where you
> are at when you?re watching the motor and gauges.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
>
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2025, at 10:17 AM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> All,
>
>
>
> So, I have gutted and stripped the #55 ?69 TR6 race car first purchased,
> having a proper roll cage installed and painted, and will be installing a
> newly built engine with triple Weber 45 DCOEs.  Will be ordering some parts
> while cage is installed and body painted.
>
>
>
> Brings me to my questions.   What size fuel lines ? 5/16? (-5) or 3/8?
> (-6)?  Also, thoughts on 100% steel braided PTFE, or combination of metal
> fuel line (front to back) with braided to connect to the fuel cell and
> Webers?  Fuel pump, filter and pressure regulator will be in the trunk with
> the fuel cell.   Return line?  The 6 previously had fuel injection and a
> fuel return line.  Not sure it is necessary for the Webers.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Mark Cook
>
>
>
> During Chuck Arnold?s ownership (pre-2018)
> Prior Owner 2018-2023
>                               Now (coffee table
> stage)
>
>
>
>
>
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