From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  1 17:50:49 2025
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:50:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
Message-ID: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>

Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!

Take a look at the quick search of prices on the Wix 51515R filters
<https://www.google.com/search?q=wix+51515r&num=10&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=75a9c45cc36bf744&sxsrf=ADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A1735771586753&ei=wsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&oq=wix+5&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5QQYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEByAEA-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsICCxAuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp>
$10.79 to $19.97

I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came
from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China
and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.

Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you using?

Brian
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From krhollar at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  2 00:19:59 2025
From: krhollar at yahoo.com (Ken Hollar)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:19:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
In-Reply-To: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1278343266.3764790.1735802399349@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:
The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.? The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make in Mexico.? I used to be in the oil filter business.? The country of origin has to be on the product.??
Oil filters are made in many countries.? My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.? They should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.? I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.? I used to sell fuel filters made in Israel.? Check the country of origin when buying all automotive products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them or not.
Good Luck.??
Ken Hollar408-655-7569
    On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!

Take a look at the quick search?of prices on the Wix 51515R filters $10.79 to $19.97
I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.

Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you?using?
Brian-- 
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  2 04:54:32 2025
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:54:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
In-Reply-To: <1278343266.3764790.1735802399349@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <1278343266.3764790.1735802399349@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAG9YvYNEN+xxRXkktmzYNV939jNkzG2pboGUz31=6N-62rn5Gw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the responses Guys
Country of origin really doesn't bother me until it impacts quality. The
*story* was someone did a cut away and the internals were inferior,
implying that when the manufacturing was offshored either the spec differed
or those manufacturing took liberties. And the trouble was, looking from
the outside, everything looked the same. No idea of what made them do the
cut away.
All that said, I don't want to malign anyone without evidence, this is all
hear-say. (I was looking to FOT for experience), maybe I can get
Bob-is-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Meanwhile I have two on the
shelf from Mann & Hummel (a German co) mfg in NC and these were about $10
per.
Cheers
Brian


On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20?AM Ken Hollar <krhollar at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:
>
> The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.  The Napa
> Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make in Mexico.  I used to be in
> the oil filter business.  The country of origin has to be on the product.
>
> Oil filters are made in many countries.  My son-in-law bought an oil
> filter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.
> They should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.  I bought a 5/16 in universal
> fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.  I used to sell fuel filters
> made in Israel.  Check the country of origin when buying all automotive
> products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them or
> not.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Ken Hollar
> 408-655-7569
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Brian Schirano via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!
>
> Take a look at the quick search of prices on the Wix 51515R filters
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=wix+51515r&num=10&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=75a9c45cc36bf744&sxsrf=ADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A1735771586753&ei=wsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&oq=wix+5&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5QQYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEByAEA-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsICCxAuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp>
> $10.79 to $19.97
>
> I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came
> from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China
> and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.
>
> Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you using?
>
> Brian
> --
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  2 05:11:31 2025
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:11:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
In-Reply-To: <CAG9YvYNEN+xxRXkktmzYNV939jNkzG2pboGUz31=6N-62rn5Gw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <1278343266.3764790.1735802399349@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAG9YvYNEN+xxRXkktmzYNV939jNkzG2pboGUz31=6N-62rn5Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1783549321.4869108.1735819891114@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Brian,
I?ve noticed a couple of different WIX 51516, which appear to be made differently, (inlet hole and valve flap material differences) and it was the manufacturing country indicating the difference?. Although I didn?t have an issue with either. ?Wix does specify the microns they will filter down to, so I suppose we have to trust that they are all manufactured to the ?same? specifications on the parts that matter. ?But, I know that sounds like a crazy leap of faith. ?(LOL)
I also cut apart my filters to examine what?s going on; I haven?t found anything concerning about the filter (or my engine - yay) yet.
Hope that helps!Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 6:58 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Thanks for the responses GuysCountry of origin really doesn't bother me until it impacts?quality. The story was someone did a cut away and the internals were inferior, implying?that when the manufacturing was offshored either the spec differed or those manufacturing took liberties. And the trouble was, looking from the outside, everything looked the same. No idea of what made them do the cut away.All that said, I don't want to malign anyone without evidence, this is all hear-say.?(I was looking to FOT for experience), maybe I can get Bob-is-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Meanwhile I have two on the shelf from Mann & Hummel (a German co) mfg in NC and these were about $10 per.CheersBrian

On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20?AM Ken Hollar <krhollar at yahoo.com> wrote:

 Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:
The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.? The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make in Mexico.? I used to be in the oil filter business.? The country of origin has to be on the product.??
Oil filters are made in many countries.? My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.? They should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.? I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.? I used to sell fuel filters made in Israel.? Check the country of origin when buying all automotive products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them or not.
Good Luck.??
Ken Hollar408-655-7569
    On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!

Take a look at the quick search?of prices on the Wix 51515R filters $10.79 to $19.97
I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.

Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you?using?
Brian-- 
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu Jan  2 06:46:20 2025
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:46:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu Jan  2 06:48:56 2025
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:48:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Thu Jan  2 07:16:28 2025
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 14:16:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
In-Reply-To: <1783549321.4869108.1735819891114@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <1278343266.3764790.1735802399349@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAG9YvYNEN+xxRXkktmzYNV939jNkzG2pboGUz31=6N-62rn5Gw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1783549321.4869108.1735819891114@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1579610050.8948729.1735827388422@mail.yahoo.com>

What?s the difference between the 51515 and 51515R??
My Sunbeam Tiger uses the 51515 and it?s convenient to have to only one filter for both that and the Triumph.?51335 is the short version that some use on the Tigers?to avoid?oil line leaks when headers aren?t involved.?

Happy New Year,?

Rick McCurdy

Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 7:38 AM, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Brian,
I?ve noticed a couple of different WIX 51516, which appear to be made differently, (inlet hole and valve flap material differences) and it was the manufacturing country indicating the difference?. Although I didn?t have an issue with either. ?Wix does specify the microns they will filter down to, so I suppose we have to trust that they are all manufactured to the ?same? specifications on the parts that matter. ?But, I know that sounds like a crazy leap of faith. ?(LOL)
I also cut apart my filters to examine what?s going on; I haven?t found anything concerning about the filter (or my engine - yay) yet.
Hope that helps!Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 6:58 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Thanks for the responses GuysCountry of origin really doesn't bother me until it impacts?quality. The story was someone did a cut away and the internals were inferior, implying?that when the manufacturing was offshored either the spec differed or those manufacturing took liberties. And the trouble was, looking from the outside, everything looked the same. No idea of what made them do the cut away.All that said, I don't want to malign anyone without evidence, this is all hear-say.?(I was looking to FOT for experience), maybe I can get Bob-is-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Meanwhile I have two on the shelf from Mann & Hummel (a German co) mfg in NC and these were about $10 per.CheersBrian

On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20?AM Ken Hollar <krhollar at yahoo.com> wrote:

 Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:
The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.? The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make in Mexico.? I used to be in the oil filter business.? The country of origin has to be on the product.??
Oil filters are made in many countries.? My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.? They should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.? I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.? I used to sell fuel filters made in Israel.? Check the country of origin when buying all automotive products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them or not.
Good Luck.??
Ken Hollar408-655-7569
    On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!

Take a look at the quick search?of prices on the Wix 51515R filters $10.79 to $19.97
I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.

Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you?using?
Brian-- 
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From morropaul3 at aol.com  Thu Jan  2 07:22:34 2025
From: morropaul3 at aol.com (Paul Morro)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 14:22:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] WIX 51516R My two cents
References: <1769980362.8950210.1735827754501.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1769980362.8950210.1735827754501@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Folks,
?I sold auto parts my whole career and had a chance to attend the 3-day Wix School of Filtration. While it did not make me an expert, I did learn a few things. The racing oil filters R suffix are intended to allow higher oil flow and less restriction at the expense of higher filtration. Thus, robbing less horsepower.??They should be changed after each racing weekend and are not intended for long term street use. I have always used Wix filters, but after a recent survey I have switched to Baldwin filters. Thier B243 is the equivalent to the Wix 51516. It is not an 'R" version.
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  2 07:29:51 2025
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:29:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
In-Reply-To: <710BDDA2-58AE-4647-B583-459247F53FDD@aol.com>
References: <1783549321.4869108.1735819891114@mail.yahoo.com>
 <710BDDA2-58AE-4647-B583-459247F53FDD@aol.com>
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 I Googled it and learned that they also make Purolator filters..
[image: image.png]
Bob Kramer


On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 7:59?AM Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Mann & Hummel now owns WIx, hence the manufacturing in NC.
> Phil
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 2, 2025, at 7:41?AM, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ? Hi Brian,
>
> I?ve noticed a couple of different WIX 51516, which appear to be made
> differently, (inlet hole and valve flap material differences) and it was
> the manufacturing country indicating the difference?. Although I didn?t
> have an issue with either.  Wix does specify the microns they will filter
> down to, so I suppose we have to trust that they are all manufactured to
> the ?same? specifications on the parts that matter.  But, I know that
> sounds like a crazy leap of faith.  (LOL)
>
> I also cut apart my filters to examine what?s going on; I haven?t found
> anything concerning about the filter (or my engine - yay) yet.
>
> Hope that helps!
> Dave Gott
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_>
>
> On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 6:58 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the responses Guys
> Country of origin really doesn't bother me until it impacts quality. The
> *story* was someone did a cut away and the internals were inferior,
> implying that when the manufacturing was offshored either the spec differed
> or those manufacturing took liberties. And the trouble was, looking from
> the outside, everything looked the same. No idea of what made them do the
> cut away.
> All that said, I don't want to malign anyone without evidence, this is all
> hear-say. (I was looking to FOT for experience), maybe I can get
> Bob-is-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Meanwhile I have two on the
> shelf from Mann & Hummel (a German co) mfg in NC and these were about $10
> per.
> Cheers
> Brian
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20?AM Ken Hollar <krhollar at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:
>
> The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.  The Napa
> Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make in Mexico.  I used to be in
> the oil filter business.  The country of origin has to be on the product.
>
> Oil filters are made in many countries.  My son-in-law bought an oil
> filter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.
> They should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.  I bought a 5/16 in universal
> fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.  I used to sell fuel filters
> made in Israel.  Check the country of origin when buying all automotive
> products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them or
> not.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Ken Hollar
> 408-655-7569
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Brian Schirano via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!
>
> Take a look at the quick search of prices on the Wix 51515R filters
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=wix+51515r&num=10&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=75a9c45cc36bf744&sxsrf=ADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A1735771586753&ei=wsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&oq=wix+5&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5QQYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEByAEA-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsICCxAuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp>
> $10.79 to $19.97
>
> I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came
> from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China
> and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.
>
> Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you using?
>
> Brian
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  2 08:53:28 2025
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 15:53:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
In-Reply-To: <1278343266.3764790.1735802399349@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
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 Engine Masters on Motor Trend TV did an episode where they tested various oil filters and how they affected HP and oil pressure/flow.? As I recall, the R filters made negligible difference in HP.? As a result I continued the use Wix Gold filters that were not R.? I last bought Wix Gold 51515 filters in early 2024 and have not noticed any difference in construction when I open each of them up.? JoeB
    On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 02:37:22 AM EST, Ken Hollar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:
The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.? The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make in Mexico.? I used to be in the oil filter business.? The country of origin has to be on the product.??
Oil filters are made in many countries.? My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.? They should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.? I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.? I used to sell fuel filters made in Israel.? Check the country of origin when buying all automotive products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them or not.
Good Luck.??
Ken Hollar408-655-7569
    On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!

Take a look at the quick search?of prices on the Wix 51515R filters $10.79 to $19.97
I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.

Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you?using?
Brian-- 
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From morropaul3 at aol.com  Thu Jan  2 10:20:38 2025
From: morropaul3 at aol.com (Paul Morro)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:20:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil filters
References: <1070662322.9041275.1735838439240.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1070662322.9041275.1735838439240@mail.yahoo.com>

 This is the survey I referenced that lead me to switch from Wix.
    On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 12:14:11 PM EST, Paul Morro <paul.morro at operationmotorsport.org> wrote:   

  
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| 15 Popular Oil Filter Brands, Rankedslashgear.com |

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From jason at jsperformancemotoring.com  Thu Jan  2 10:59:08 2025
From: jason at jsperformancemotoring.com (JS Performance Motoring, LLC)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:59:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
In-Reply-To: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEN1C=RRHy9w_ZzJwsd6NwydaYBFH610YAZjwLag2kiEXAa=xw@mail.gmail.com>

Since the group that owned WIX was purchased by Mann Hummel, it seems that
many of the previously USA made filter part numbers have been offshored.

The most common filters I was using on Triumphs were the 51348 and the
51516, both are no longer made in the USA.  I can't say that the Mexico or
China sourced filters are causing engine failures, but it made me feel good
to be using a quality, American made filter.

For the 51348 and 51516 sizes, I've found that the Champ brand PH2835 and
PH400 work just fine, and are made domestically.

I don't feel that our typical Triumph engines need the extra flow
capability of the "R" filters, I suspect that is more of a concern for
large V8 engines with big bearing clearances.

The spin-on adapter that we have developed for the 6 cylinder engines
(places the filter in the same location as the original filter housing)
allows for a larger diameter filter to be used.  I've found the WIX 51311
is a good one, and it's still made in North Carolina.  This is a 3/4-16"
thread filter, a little shorter than the 51515.  The 51311 will also fit
many of the remote mounts, and as it's used on Volvo Trucks and buses, I
have no doubt it is of sufficient size for a Triumph engine.


Jason Sukey
JS Performance Motoring, LLC
440.984.7720
jason at jsperformancemotoring.com
https://www.facebook.com/JSPerformanceMotoring/


On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 8:10?PM Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!
>
> Take a look at the quick search of prices on the Wix 51515R filters
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=wix+51515r&num=10&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=75a9c45cc36bf744&sxsrf=ADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A1735771586753&ei=wsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&oq=wix+5&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5QQYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEByAEA-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsICCxAuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp>
> $10.79 to $19.97
>
> I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came
> from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China
> and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.
>
> Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you using?
>
> Brian
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  2 17:34:24 2025
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 00:34:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
In-Reply-To: <1294263177.3996600.1735833208157@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <1278343266.3764790.1735802399349@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1294263177.3996600.1735833208157@mail.yahoo.com>
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 The oil filter shootout was Season 6, episode 5 of Engine Masters.? I just watched it again.? Filters made no difference in HP.? They even tried no filter, with no HP difference.? The top 3 flowing (of the 3/4-16 threaded filters) were K&N Gold, Wix and Wix Racing.? The K&N had then best micron rating at 10 microns.? Wix racing filter has 60 micron rating and the regular Wix is 20 micron.? Wix 51515 and 51515R are 3/4-16 threaded filters.??
This aired in December 2021, thus does not take into account any recent changes by the manufacturers.??JoeB
    On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:09:49 AM EST, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Engine Masters on Motor Trend TV did an episode where they tested various oil filters and how they affected HP and oil pressure/flow.? As I recall, the R filters made negligible difference in HP.? As a result I continued the use Wix Gold filters that were not R.? I last bought Wix Gold 51515 filters in early 2024 and have not noticed any difference in construction when I open each of them up.? JoeB
    On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 02:37:22 AM EST, Ken Hollar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jan  2 18:14:35 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 20:14:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wix 51515R
In-Reply-To: <CAEN1C=RRHy9w_ZzJwsd6NwydaYBFH610YAZjwLag2kiEXAa=xw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOka+W-vWLg08RuPR56_66chvVEvdLdb0Ga-8mf=Uwa1g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAO0FjVY=1yLChun12-QOAJ0b7RAzbVEkgc_7Bf4TxT8awZhfNw@mail.gmail.com>

I buy the Wix 51515R filters by the 6 pack case online. My last order, Oct
2024, has all the filters manufactured in the US (you need to look at the
actual filter, not the box). One thing I have noticed over the past two
years or so is the filter housing seems thinner, it's easy to deform it
with a strap type wrench taking them off. Other than that, I haven't had
any problems with them. I never had a Fram Orange Can of Death fail either
but a YouTube video with side by side comparisons of the internals
convinced me to switch to Wix.

my 2 cents

mike

On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 1:57?PM JS Performance Motoring, LLC via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Since the group that owned WIX was purchased by Mann Hummel, it seems that
> many of the previously USA made filter part numbers have been offshored.
>
> The most common filters I was using on Triumphs were the 51348 and the
> 51516, both are no longer made in the USA.  I can't say that the Mexico or
> China sourced filters are causing engine failures, but it made me feel good
> to be using a quality, American made filter.
>
> For the 51348 and 51516 sizes, I've found that the Champ brand PH2835 and
> PH400 work just fine, and are made domestically.
>
> I don't feel that our typical Triumph engines need the extra flow
> capability of the "R" filters, I suspect that is more of a concern for
> large V8 engines with big bearing clearances.
>
> The spin-on adapter that we have developed for the 6 cylinder engines
> (places the filter in the same location as the original filter housing)
> allows for a larger diameter filter to be used.  I've found the WIX 51311
> is a good one, and it's still made in North Carolina.  This is a 3/4-16"
> thread filter, a little shorter than the 51515.  The 51311 will also fit
> many of the remote mounts, and as it's used on Volvo Trucks and buses, I
> have no doubt it is of sufficient size for a Triumph engine.
>
>
> Jason Sukey
> JS Performance Motoring, LLC
> 440.984.7720
> jason at jsperformancemotoring.com
> https://www.facebook.com/JSPerformanceMotoring/
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 8:10?PM Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!
>>
>> Take a look at the quick search of prices on the Wix 51515R filters
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=wix+51515r&num=10&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=75a9c45cc36bf744&sxsrf=ADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A1735771586753&ei=wsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&oq=wix+5&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5QQYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEByAEA-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsICCxAuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp>
>> $10.79 to $19.97
>>
>> I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came
>> from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China
>> and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.
>>
>> Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you using?
>>
>> Brian
>> --
>> Brian Schirano
>> 585-305-0349
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  3 03:54:15 2025
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 02:54:15 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Oil filters, consumables and other sundry supplies
References: <E0F19C8D-EB0F-4690-94E5-1A2AE99201CC.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E0F19C8D-EB0F-4690-94E5-1A2AE99201CC@yahoo.com>

Don?t know if you westerners got the memo but it made National news?
Advance Auto Parts is closing 700 stores west of the Mississippi. 
The closeout deals are crazy - 40-50% off supplies and 70-80% off of ?hard parts?. 
I?ve been buying everything I think I?ll ever use. 
The effected stores will be closed sometime in March and discounts could go to 90%+ at the end. 
Bonus it that their prior acquisition of Car Quest means lots of the stuff is pretty high quality (although that acquisition may have contributed to their demise). 
Stay thirsty my friends,

Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM
> 


From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 07:49:49 2025
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 08:49:49 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Oil filters, consumables and other sundry supplies
In-Reply-To: <E0F19C8D-EB0F-4690-94E5-1A2AE99201CC@yahoo.com>
References: <E0F19C8D-EB0F-4690-94E5-1A2AE99201CC.ref@yahoo.com>
 <E0F19C8D-EB0F-4690-94E5-1A2AE99201CC@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWsuFJ24BXgTTCOaMVwkQVSnMj7Pe4GLCnn9sAu-HpObDQ@mail.gmail.com>

"The troubled retailer will exit five Western states?Washington, Oregon,
California, Nevada, and New Mexico?entirely."  Texas is missing the cut!

I have an O'Riellys 1.7 miles from home, an Autozone, Advance and PartsPlus
within the next mile, and the big 3 have another set of stores within a
stones throw of each other 2 miles further away. The market is overly
saturated.

Bob Kramer




On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:08?AM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Don?t know if you westerners got the memo but it made National news?
> Advance Auto Parts is closing 700 stores west of the Mississippi.
> The closeout deals are crazy - 40-50% off supplies and 70-80% off of ?hard
> parts?.
> I?ve been buying everything I think I?ll ever use.
> The effected stores will be closed sometime in March and discounts could
> go to 90%+ at the end.
> Bonus it that their prior acquisition of Car Quest means lots of the stuff
> is pretty high quality (although that acquisition may have contributed to
> their demise).
> Stay thirsty my friends,
>
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> Albuquerque NM
> >
>
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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  4 08:18:11 2025
From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 15:18:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil filters, consumables and other sundry supplies
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWsuFJ24BXgTTCOaMVwkQVSnMj7Pe4GLCnn9sAu-HpObDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E0F19C8D-EB0F-4690-94E5-1A2AE99201CC.ref@yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1886184227.9738417.1736003891219@mail.yahoo.com>

 I'm in Antioch IL, have the (largest) NAPA for decades here, then came AutoZone, Advanced Auto Parts and an O'Reillys - a town of 14k people - all but NAPA are struggling - agreed parts stores (that aren't really real parts stores) are overpopulating areas and don't have much difference between them
Ralph    On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 09:06:58 AM CST, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 "The troubled retailer will exit five Western states?Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, and New Mexico?entirely."? Texas is missing the cut!
I have an O'Riellys 1.7 miles from home, an Autozone, Advance and PartsPlus within the next mile, and the big 3 have another set of stores within a stones throw of each other 2 miles further away. The market?is overly saturated.
Bob Kramer



On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:08?AM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Don?t know if you westerners got the memo but it made National news?
Advance Auto Parts is closing 700 stores west of the Mississippi. 
The closeout deals are crazy - 40-50% off supplies and 70-80% off of ?hard parts?. 
I?ve been buying everything I think I?ll ever use. 
The effected stores will be closed sometime in March and discounts could go to 90%+ at the end. 
Bonus it that their prior acquisition of Car Quest means lots of the stuff is pretty high quality (although that acquisition may have contributed to their demise). 
Stay thirsty my friends,

Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sun Jan  5 08:22:50 2025
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2025 10:22:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race car shop recommendation
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Hi, just want to pass along a great experience I just had with Bill Gendron of Small Fortune Racing in Monson, MA.  This was not a Triumph experience - I bought an old sports racer (1972) and am restoring it.  The chassis and suspension needed a number of repairs and alterations - taller roll bar, front and rear suspension modifications, new fuel cell/tank fabrication, repairs to correct years of modifications, etc, etc, etc - a number of fabrication tasks that were outside my capabilities.  He also pulled apart and serviced the Hewland gearbox.  

Bill did a great job, came up with some creative solutions and was reasonably priced.  He?s a long time racer, has a small shop that is just him and his son, and thinks like a competitive racer.  No street cars, just race cars.  

Should you be looking for help, he might be the guy.  

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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  5 19:02:20 2025
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 02:02:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race car shop recommendation
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 I've met Bill at the track at some SCCA races.? Sounded like he's been around racing for a long time.? First heard of him for making a great Honda S2000 front sway bar, though I have not used his services or products.? JoeB
    On Sunday, January 5, 2025 at 07:05:46 PM EST, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hi, just want to pass along a great experience I just had with Bill Gendron of Small Fortune Racing in Monson, MA. ?This was not a Triumph experience - I bought an old sports racer (1972) and am restoring it. ?The chassis and suspension needed a number of repairs and alterations - taller roll bar, front and rear suspension modifications, new fuel cell/tank fabrication, repairs to correct years of modifications, etc, etc, etc - a number of fabrication tasks that were outside my capabilities. ?He also pulled apart and serviced the Hewland gearbox. ?
Bill did a great job, came up with some creative solutions and was reasonably priced. ?He?s a long time racer, has a small shop that is just him and his son, and thinks like a competitive racer. ?No street cars, just race cars. ?
Should you be looking for help, he might be the guy. ?
NFI,
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From vfracing at aol.com  Mon Jan  6 04:23:11 2025
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 06:23:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race car shop recommendation
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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Mon Jan  6 05:47:09 2025
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 12:47:09 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Race car shop recommendation
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Sports racer ? Do tell:-)
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2025, at 3:37?AM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? Bill did the cages in both Bob Lang?s TR6 and my 4A.  Very nice work.
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 5, 2025, at 9:59?PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
I've met Bill at the track at some SCCA races.  Sounded like he's been around racing for a long time.  First heard of him for making a great Honda S2000 front sway bar, though I have not used his services or products.  JoeB

On Sunday, January 5, 2025 at 07:05:46 PM EST, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hi, just want to pass along a great experience I just had with Bill Gendron of Small Fortune Racing in Monson, MA.  This was not a Triumph experience - I bought an old sports racer (1972) and am restoring it.  The chassis and suspension needed a number of repairs and alterations - taller roll bar, front and rear suspension modifications, new fuel cell/tank fabrication, repairs to correct years of modifications, etc, etc, etc - a number of fabrication tasks that were outside my capabilities.  He also pulled apart and serviced the Hewland gearbox.

Bill did a great job, came up with some creative solutions and was reasonably priced.  He?s a long time racer, has a small shop that is just him and his son, and thinks like a competitive racer.  No street cars, just race cars.

Should you be looking for help, he might be the guy.

NFI,

Scott Janzen
Triumph GT6
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan  6 08:14:44 2025
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:14:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race car shop recommendation
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It?s a LeGrand Mk 16, built from a kit by Jon Reski in Canada for a Canadian series.  semi-monocoque chassis (square tube frame with riveted aluminum stressed skin) with rear round tube sub-frame.  Built 1972, 2 liter ford (Pinto) engine, Hewland box, wishbone suspension all around with coil-overs.  1300 lb.  Been sitting for 15 years, I?m going though everything, but no sign of accidents, solid, simple car.
Photo in blue was back in the day, black is current.  Will return to blue!
Always wanted to try something like this - we?ll see if I like the car and the run group when done, hopefully 2025.

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From robertten1 at aol.com  Mon Jan  6 15:35:57 2025
From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 22:35:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Cam Bearings for Spitfire
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 Don, have you tried Advance Performance Technology? located in Riverside, California.?

Best of luckBob TSPIT GT? autocrosser
    On Monday, December 30, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Don Couch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Greetings,
 Would anyone happen to know where I might obtain one piece cam bearings for a 1296 Spitfire block?

Thanks, 
Don

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Mon Jan  6 18:33:13 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:33:13 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Cam Bearings for Spitfire
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I'm not sure APT is still in business. David has been talking about
retiring for a few years and now the website, APTfast.com, seems to be
gone. You can ping the address but the site seems to have been down for a
couple of months. I haven't looked up an old receipt for a phone number so
I can't confirm it.

mike h

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 5:49?PM robertten1--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Don, have you tried Advance Performance Technology  located in Riverside,
> California.
>
>
> Best of luck
> Bob T
> SPIT GT  autocrosser
>
> On Monday, December 30, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Don Couch via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings,
> Would anyone happen to know where I might obtain one piece cam bearings
> for a 1296 Spitfire block?
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
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From jason at jsperformancemotoring.com  Mon Jan  6 19:13:43 2025
From: jason at jsperformancemotoring.com (JS Performance Motoring, LLC)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 21:13:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Cam Bearings for Spitfire
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Unfortunately,  Dave Anton of APT passed away early last year.   After Lori
sold the remaining inventory,  there is no more APT.

Jason

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025, 9:12?PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I'm not sure APT is still in business. David has been talking about
> retiring for a few years and now the website, APTfast.com, seems to be
> gone. You can ping the address but the site seems to have been down for a
> couple of months. I haven't looked up an old receipt for a phone number so
> I can't confirm it.
>
> mike h
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 5:49?PM robertten1--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Don, have you tried Advance Performance Technology  located in Riverside,
>> California.
>>
>>
>> Best of luck
>> Bob T
>> SPIT GT  autocrosser
>>
>> On Monday, December 30, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Don Couch via Fot <
>> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Would anyone happen to know where I might obtain one piece cam bearings
>> for a 1296 Spitfire block?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
>>
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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Mon Jan  6 20:01:36 2025
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 03:01:36 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Cam Bearings for Spitfire
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Unfortunately , David Aton Of APT passed  lastyear . Rip
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2025, at 6:45?PM, JS Performance Motoring, LLC via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Unfortunately,  Dave Anton of APT passed away early last year.   After Lori sold the remaining inventory,  there is no more APT.

Jason

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025, 9:12?PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I'm not sure APT is still in business. David has been talking about retiring for a few years and now the website, APTfast.com, seems to be gone. You can ping the address but the site seems to have been down for a couple of months. I haven't looked up an old receipt for a phone number so I can't confirm it.

mike h

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 5:49?PM robertten1--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Don, have you tried Advance Performance Technology  located in Riverside, California.


Best of luck
Bob T
SPIT GT  autocrosser

On Monday, December 30, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Don Couch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Greetings,
Would anyone happen to know where I might obtain one piece cam bearings for a 1296 Spitfire block?

Thanks,
Don

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From 4msonset at gmail.com  Mon Jan  6 20:49:07 2025
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 19:49:07 -0800
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Tue Jan  7 18:42:50 2025
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:42:50 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR oil filter head bypass
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Howdy folks,

Another dumb question as we are finishing the assembly of my son?s street TR3 motor. We are cleaning and refurbishing an old filter head off the spares shelf. We are using a later Tecalemit head and will be using a spin on filter adapter. 

So the dumb question. Is there any reason to retain the functionality of the pressure bypass valve on this filter head? My assumption is that we will be using a spin on filter with an integral bypass valve (most I?ve looked at range from 10-20 psi). So why retain the ball and spring bypass in the filter head? Isnt that redundant? Whats the preferred method to remove this internal bypass? Just a threaded plug?

Second related dumb question. What are yall using to replace the no longer available rubber seal that is used where the oil pressure adjustment valve screws into the side of the filter head? All of mine are severely dry rotted. Wondering if some form a gasket RTV is the go to here. 

Thanks for the help. 

Greg


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From tr4 at wi.rr.com  Tue Jan  7 19:32:03 2025
From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (tr4)
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 20:32:03 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR oil filter head bypass
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I use a square oring from McMaster Carr.? For the screw I use a Dowty washer.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 1/7/25  8:05 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] TR oil filter head bypass Howdy folks,Another dumb question as we are finishing the assembly of my son?s street TR3 motor. We are cleaning and refurbishing an old filter head off the spares shelf. We are using a later Tecalemit head and will be using a spin on filter adapter. So the dumb question. Is there any reason to retain the functionality of the pressure bypass valve on this filter head? My assumption is that we will be using a spin on filter with an integral bypass valve (most I?ve looked at range from 10-20 psi). So why retain the ball and spring bypass in the filter head? Isnt that redundant? Whats the preferred method to remove this internal bypass? Just a threaded plug?Second related dumb question. What are yall using to replace the no longer available rubber seal that is used where the oil pressure adjustment valve screws into the side of the filter head? All of mine are severely dry rotted. Wondering if some form a gasket RTV is the go to here. Thanks for the help. GregSent from my iPhone_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4 at wi.rr.com
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Wed Jan  8 14:06:18 2025
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Michael Kurtz)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:06:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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Does Lime Rock have a sound (decibels) restriction for racing?

Mike Kurtz

From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  8 14:24:03 2025
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 21:24:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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Hi Mike, ?
There are a few weekends that are specifically ?unmuffled? at Lime Rock. ?? HRG running with VSCCA at the very end of May, (Empire Club - Previously Jag Club)?and then again on Labor Day weekend for the K cup, as I recall!
Dave Gott


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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 14:34:46 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:34:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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It depends on the event. They're allowed 7 unmuffled events per season. The
Fall festival (K Cup) race will be unmuffled. My group's event, HRG with
the VSCCA, May 30-31 (Fri-Sat after Memorial day) is unmuffled. There are a
couple of Tune and Test days over the summer that are unmuffled as well.
The rest of the time there a fairly low (88 DBa if I remember correctly, it
could be 92 DBa, I can't find it on the new track website). Sound is
usually measured at Pit Out from the emergency services building, 20 feet
or less from the edge of the track (during non major event days)

mike h

mike

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From fmccjr at aol.com  Wed Jan  8 14:48:36 2025
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 21:48:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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Mike,?
There are events that do have limits on how much noise comes from the track, but the Historics on Labor Day weekend isn?t one of them.
There is a local ordinance that prohibits racing on Sunday?s that has been in effect since the track opened- in winter months, you can see a?church through the trees. I hope you are thinking about racing the for?Cup this year!
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Wed Jan  8 15:02:34 2025
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 17:02:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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Yes, I should have specified, for the Kastner Cup.
Thanks
Mike


On 1/8/2025 4:48 PM, fmccjr at aol.com wrote:
> Mike,
>
> There are events that do have limits on how much noise comes from the 
> track, but the Historics on Labor Day weekend isn?t one of them.
>
> There is a local ordinance that prohibits racing on Sunday?s that has 
> been in effect since the track opened- in winter months, you can see 
> a?church through the trees. I hope you are thinking about racing the 
> for?Cup this year!
>
> Rick McCurdy
>
>
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> On Wednesday, January 8, 2025, 4:24 PM, Michael Kurtz via Fot 
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Jan  8 15:41:45 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:41:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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Is the test / tune / practice day before the Labor Day / K-Cup weekend 
also unmuffled?? I'm kinda counting on that...

Thanks, Tony Drews

On 1/8/2025 3:48 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote:
> Mike,
>
> There are events that do have limits on how much noise comes from the 
> track, but the Historics on Labor Day weekend isn?t one of them.
>
> There is a local ordinance that prohibits racing on Sunday?s that has 
> been in effect since the track opened- in winter months, you can see 
> a?church through the trees. I hope you are thinking about racing the 
> for?Cup this year!
>
> Rick McCurdy
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS 
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
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> On Wednesday, January 8, 2025, 4:24 PM, Michael Kurtz via Fot 
> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Does Lime Rock have a sound (decibels) restriction for racing?
>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 17:38:43 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 19:38:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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Hi Tony, no schedule published yet but it's normally the Tuesday before a
major event. One quirk, at least in the past. If you come for the Tune and
Test, you'll be allowed to set up in your paddock space for the weekend but
you won't be allowed to stay overnight at the track between the T&T day
(Tuesday) and pre race move in (Thursday).

General T&T info- unmuffled
https://limerock.com/drive/testing-days/

mike h

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wrote:

> Is the test / tune / practice day before the Labor Day / K-Cup weekend
> also unmuffled?  I'm kinda counting on that...
>
> Thanks, Tony Drews
> On 1/8/2025 3:48 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> There are events that do have limits on how much noise comes from the
> track, but the Historics on Labor Day weekend isn?t one of them.
>
> There is a local ordinance that prohibits racing on Sunday?s that has been
> in effect since the track opened- in winter months, you can see a church
> through the trees. I hope you are thinking about racing the for Cup this
> year!
>
> Rick McCurdy
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2025, 4:24 PM, Michael Kurtz via Fot
> <fot at autox.team.net> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Does Lime Rock have a sound (decibels) restriction for racing?
>
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  8 18:48:35 2025
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 20:48:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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From SCCAFlagchief at outlook.com  Thu Jan  9 03:27:05 2025
From: SCCAFlagchief at outlook.com (Bryan Deane)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 10:27:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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Which, if my memory is correct would be the same dB limit for VFF.

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The SCCA race on June 13-14 is unmuffled but SCCA has a 103 db noise limit.   JoeB

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On Jan 8, 2025, at 5:23?PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
It depends on the event. They're allowed 7 unmuffled events per season. The Fall festival (K Cup) race will be unmuffled. My group's event, HRG with the VSCCA, May 30-31 (Fri-Sat after Memorial day) is unmuffled. There are a couple of Tune and Test days over the summer that are unmuffled as well. The rest of the time there a fairly low (88 DBa if I remember correctly, it could be 92 DBa, I can't find it on the new track website). Sound is usually measured at Pit Out from the emergency services building, 20 feet or less from the edge of the track (during non major event days)

mike h

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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jan  9 04:17:43 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 06:17:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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Thanks everyone for providing good info. I can confirm that while we
don't have a published calendar yet, the plans for 2025 are as described
by several. 

We have no noise limits to deal with folks, the practice day the Tuesday
preceding the event is an open exhaust day, unmuffled cars are fine all
weekend except Sunday. Those participating in the main event over Labor
Day weekend will have been previously assigned a paddock space, and you
have the option to drop your rig in your paddock space after you
complete your track time on Tuesday. The caveat is you will not be
allowed to camp at the track on Tuesday or Wednesday night, so if you
are planning on staying at the track in your rig, you need to make
alternate plans for those nights. Regular load in is on Thursday, and
you are free to stay at the track from Thursday through Sunday night. 

A nice overview of the event is online, check out: 

https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival/  

Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17
miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in
Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If
driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth
finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.  

For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers
exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more
appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing
sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice
will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main
event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!  

We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday
afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our
third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup.


Sunday is a quiet day, no race engines allowed. The track holds a huge
car show, and as the featured run group we are part of that if you want
to. More details on Sunday to follow, including a FOT get together at
the track! 

You will hear me say this again as we get closer to the event, I
encourage anybody who has not run Lime Rock to take advantage of the
test day. Driving Lime Rock is a very unique experience, and while 7
turns in 1.6 miles may not sound that difficult, you will be surprised
how uncomfortable those first few sessions can be. For us mere mortals,
speed at Lime Rock comes from repetition, and many find the learning
curve pretty steep! 

Even better, consider running the Empire Cup in June. Mike Harmuth will
provide the details on the Empire as we get closer to the event.  

Feel free to reach out to me with any questions! 

Henry Frye
Kastner Cup Co-Chair
860.508.3118 - mobile 

On 2025-01-08 17:41, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:

> Is the test / tune / practice day before the Labor Day / K-Cup weekend also unmuffled?  I'm kinda counting on that... 
> 
> Thanks, Tony Drews
> 
> On 1/8/2025 3:48 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: Mike,  
> 
> There are events that do have limits on how much noise comes from the track, but the Historics on Labor Day weekend isn't one of them. 
> 
> There is a local ordinance that prohibits racing on Sunday's that has been in effect since the track opened- in winter months, you can see a church through the trees. I hope you are thinking about racing the for Cup this year! 
> 
> Rick McCurdy 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2025, 4:24 PM, Michael Kurtz via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
> Does Lime Rock have a sound (decibels) restriction for racing? 
> 
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jan  9 06:11:15 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 08:11:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Question
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Thanks Henry

Registration is open for the Empire Cup event at Lime Rock Fri-Sat May
30-31 (Fri after Memorial Day). 2 days of unmuffled racing, either with HRG
(~1960-1983 era) SCCA Prod and GT class cars or TRs and sports racers with
VSCCA. Unlimited crew, party for all on Friday Night.
https://historicracinggroup.com/

Info and entry form for the weekend, including 2 track day groups (let your
crew run a car between race sessions)
 (old school - print out and mail a check in)
https://historicracinggroup.com/resources/2025/Lime%20Rock%20Entry%20Form%202025.pdf

Send me any questions and I'll either answer them or put you in touch with
the right person.

mike h
ofracer at gmail.com

On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 6:33?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks everyone for providing good info. I can confirm that while we don't
> have a published calendar yet, the plans for 2025 are as described by
> several.
>
> We have no noise limits to deal with folks, the practice day the Tuesday
> preceding the event is an open exhaust day, unmuffled cars are fine all
> weekend except Sunday. Those participating in the main event over Labor Day
> weekend will have been previously assigned a paddock space, and you have
> the option to drop your rig in your paddock space after you complete your
> track time on Tuesday. The caveat is you will not be allowed to camp at the
> track on Tuesday or Wednesday night, so if you are planning on staying at
> the track in your rig, you need to make alternate plans for those nights.
> Regular load in is on Thursday, and you are free to stay at the track from
> Thursday through Sunday night.
>
> A nice overview of the event is online, check out:
>
> https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival/
>
> Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17
> miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls
> Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving
> your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding
> your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.
>
> For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers
> exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more
> appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing
> sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice
> will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main
> event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!
>
> We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday
> afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third
> race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup.
>
> Sunday is a quiet day, no race engines allowed. The track holds a huge car
> show, and as the featured run group we are part of that if you want to.
> More details on Sunday to follow, including a FOT get together at the track!
>
> You will hear me say this again as we get closer to the event, I encourage
> anybody who has not run Lime Rock to take advantage of the test day.
> Driving Lime Rock is a very unique experience, and while 7 turns in 1.6
> miles may not sound that difficult, you will be surprised how uncomfortable
> those first few sessions can be. For us mere mortals, speed at Lime Rock
> comes from repetition, and many find the learning curve pretty steep!
>
> Even better, consider running the Empire Cup in June. Mike Harmuth will
> provide the details on the Empire as we get closer to the event.
>
> Feel free to reach out to me with any questions!
>
> Henry Frye
> Kastner Cup Co-Chair
> 860.508.3118 - mobile
>
> On 2025-01-08 17:41, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:
>
> Is the test / tune / practice day before the Labor Day / K-Cup weekend
> also unmuffled?  I'm kinda counting on that...
>
> Thanks, Tony Drews
> On 1/8/2025 3:48 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> There are events that do have limits on how much noise comes from the
> track, but the Historics on Labor Day weekend isn't one of them.
>
> There is a local ordinance that prohibits racing on Sunday's that has been
> in effect since the track opened- in winter months, you can see a church
> through the trees. I hope you are thinking about racing the for Cup this
> year!
>
> Rick McCurdy
>
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2025, 4:24 PM, Michael Kurtz via Fot
> <fot at autox.team.net> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Does Lime Rock have a sound (decibels) restriction for racing?
>
> Mike Kurtz
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jan  9 06:53:45 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 08:53:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock registration will be opening soon
In-Reply-To: <e35a600faedfb3904d6ec4d15e6af10d@tr4racer.com>
References: <31dd7ec4-0628-4fb1-9dbb-892d073d41b6@ptd.net>
 <1776326416.11488388.1736372916972@mail.yahoo.com>
 <a390b565-3b86-4bda-93d6-f42a6f8bb5a6@tonydrews.com>
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We anticipate registration through motorsportsreg.com will be opening in
a couple of weeks. Please register sooner rather than later, knowing who
is intending to come makes planning so much easier! 

Cheers

Henry Frye
Kastner Cup Co-Chair
860.508.3118 - mobile 

On 2025-01-09 06:17, yellow04 via Fot wrote:

> Thanks everyone for providing good info. I can confirm that while we don't have a published calendar yet, the plans for 2025 are as described by several. 
> 
> We have no noise limits to deal with folks, the practice day the Tuesday preceding the event is an open exhaust day, unmuffled cars are fine all weekend except Sunday. Those participating in the main event over Labor Day weekend will have been previously assigned a paddock space, and you have the option to drop your rig in your paddock space after you complete your track time on Tuesday. The caveat is you will not be allowed to camp at the track on Tuesday or Wednesday night, so if you are planning on staying at the track in your rig, you need to make alternate plans for those nights. Regular load in is on Thursday, and you are free to stay at the track from Thursday through Sunday night. 
> 
> A nice overview of the event is online, check out: 
> 
> https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival/  
> 
> Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.  
> 
> For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!  
> 
> We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup. 
> 
> Sunday is a quiet day, no race engines allowed. The track holds a huge car show, and as the featured run group we are part of that if you want to. More details on Sunday to follow, including a FOT get together at the track! 
> 
> You will hear me say this again as we get closer to the event, I encourage anybody who has not run Lime Rock to take advantage of the test day. Driving Lime Rock is a very unique experience, and while 7 turns in 1.6 miles may not sound that difficult, you will be surprised how uncomfortable those first few sessions can be. For us mere mortals, speed at Lime Rock comes from repetition, and many find the learning curve pretty steep! 
> 
> Even better, consider running the Empire Cup in June. Mike Harmuth will provide the details on the Empire as we get closer to the event.  
> 
> Feel free to reach out to me with any questions! 
> 
> Henry Frye
> Kastner Cup Co-Chair
> 860.508.3118 - mobile
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  9 09:46:43 2025
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:46:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] PVGP Triumph/MG Challenge
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Just a reminder of the upcoming Triumph/MG challenge coming up in July at PittRace. Original post is below. It is generating a lot of interest and should be a blast for both competitors and spectators.  We were able to procure 9 of the 10 reserved RV electric spots in the South paddock for us Triumph racers. Most are claimed already but if you are bringing a MH and would like one reserved for you, please email me direct at trmarty at hotmail.com. I will start a waiting list after it is full in case somebody cannot make it.

Thanks,
Marty Sukey

________________________________
From: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 11:09 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: PVGP Triumph/MG Challenge


Fellow racers and fans, we know the big TR event for 2025 is the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock in August; but to add to your racing pleasure, the first ever PVGP Triumph/MG Challenge has just been formally announced. The link for the event is below with all the
 details.

Triumph - MG Challenge | PVGP<https://pvgp.org/triumph-mg-challenge/>

The cliff note version is as follows: July 11 through the 13th at Pittsburgh International Raceway (PittRace), Team Triumph will be taking on Team MG for the soon to be infamous PVGP Triumph MG trophy. For no additional entry fee, you will get to run one Triumph/MG challenge race on Saturday and a second one on Sunday. Saturday will be a Team Triumph vs Team MG race with the winning team being awarded the trophy based on each team's racers finishing position. This is not just the fastest car in the marquee winning, this is a TEAM challenge.  Sunday will be a king of the hill race with the fastest Triumph or MG taking the honors. This will be in ADDITION to all the regular PVGP sessions for your normal run groups.

Unbeatable track time! If you have never raced PittRace, it is a fantastic track. 2.8 miles, 19 corners, 3 long straights and 101 feet of elevation changes. If that's not enough, how about an all-paved paddock, and the icing on the cake: AIR-CONDITIONED BATHROOMS AND SHOWERS.  Where else can you find that?

Take the time to read the announcement, there is some pretty special stuff going on for both the racers and the Triumph/MG spectators.  Put it on your schedule, you will have a blast!  Let's show those lowly MG?s how fast real British cars are!

Marty Sukey





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From tony at tonydrews.com  Thu Jan  9 13:32:36 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 14:32:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR-4 valves
Message-ID: <8c56aec9-efa0-4c45-8293-14902a604649@tonydrews.com>

I know this has been discussed, but in searching my saved messages I'm 
finding conflicting information.? BPNW and Moss no longer can get the 
stainless steel oversized valves for TR-4's. I'm looking for a source 
for 36 mm Exhaust and 41 mm intake valves.

Recommendations?

Regards, Tony Drews



From vfracing at aol.com  Thu Jan  9 15:01:59 2025
From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:01:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR-4 valves
In-Reply-To: <8c56aec9-efa0-4c45-8293-14902a604649@tonydrews.com>
References: <8c56aec9-efa0-4c45-8293-14902a604649@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <1961425337.6545386.1736460119189@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hi Tony;
We've had good luck getting valves made by Manley. ?Service is good. ?Best thing to do is send an old valve to them to copy. ?Stems run about .001 larger diameter than the Triumph valves. ?Not a problem. ?Neil Vernarelli there is good to work with. ?neilv at manleyperformance,com
Regards,
Phil
    On Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 03:40:25 PM EST, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   

 I know this has been discussed, but in searching my saved messages I'm 
finding conflicting information.? BPNW and Moss no longer can get the 
stainless steel oversized valves for TR-4's. I'm looking for a source 
for 36 mm Exhaust and 41 mm intake valves.

Recommendations?

Regards, Tony Drews


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From bbtr250 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 10 09:22:38 2025
From: bbtr250 at gmail.com (Bryan Brazelton)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:22:38 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR-4 valves
In-Reply-To: <1961425337.6545386.1736460119189@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <8c56aec9-efa0-4c45-8293-14902a604649@tonydrews.com>
 <1961425337.6545386.1736460119189@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAi9oN+vU36-HZ56nG5V8ZXYfa4F=PVbK-KULWAQvQuTU=yAA@mail.gmail.com>

I have sourced them from SI valves in California.  They can make any size
that you need. There # is 800-564-8258.  Great folks to work with.

Bryan B


On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 4:13?PM vfracing--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Tony;
>
> We've had good luck getting valves made by Manley.  Service is good.  Best
> thing to do is send an old valve to them to copy.  Stems run about .001
> larger diameter than the Triumph valves.  Not a problem.  Neil Vernarelli
> there is good to work with.  neilv at manleyperformance,com
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 03:40:25 PM EST, Tony Drews via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I know this has been discussed, but in searching my saved messages I'm
> finding conflicting information.  BPNW and Moss no longer can get the
> stainless steel oversized valves for TR-4's. I'm looking for a source
> for 36 mm Exhaust and 41 mm intake valves.
>
> Recommendations?
>
> Regards, Tony Drews
>
>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jan 10 09:41:18 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:41:18 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR-4 valves
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References: <8c56aec9-efa0-4c45-8293-14902a604649@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <3bfc1a7e-e334-4705-9162-6cbde2bd3f01@tonydrews.com>

Thanks for all of the suggestions!? British Frame and Engine has them in 
stock, shipping today.? Yay.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 1/9/2025 2:32 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:
> I know this has been discussed, but in searching my saved messages I'm 
> finding conflicting information.? BPNW and Moss no longer can get the 
> stainless steel oversized valves for TR-4's. I'm looking for a source 
> for 36 mm Exhaust and 41 mm intake valves.
>
> Recommendations?
>
> Regards, Tony Drews
>
>
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 11 08:32:40 2025
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:32:40 -0600
Subject: [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups
Message-ID: <CABFvdWt0f9mN=AoKfe0vqSQFae-5twbCwy4vuk0QmLJsW5cVmA@mail.gmail.com>

I am finally rebuilding the engine I got with the #67 TR4 many years ago.
The car came to me with dual SK sidedrafts (Weber rip-offs) and the head
had some interesting stuff done to it.The intake area on the head was
carved out to raise the angle of the SK's and the combustion chambers were
recessed with a flat mill to fit pop up pistons to gain compression without
much head milling. I know others run pop-up pistons. Has anyone else done
this?

Bob Kramer
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Sat Jan 11 12:23:09 2025
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:23:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups
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Yep, I did exactly that plus deshrouded the valves. I took off just enough to remove the shrouds at the valves and went with Wiseco pop ups made to order through BF&E. Also welded in and reshaped the exhaust valve pockets and part of the ports. It spent a lot of time on the flow bench.

The head I built before this one eventually cracked due to being milled to thin so I went the other way to get compression.

jg

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Kramer via Fot
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 8:33 AM
To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups

 

I am finally rebuilding the engine I got with the #67 TR4 many years ago. The car came to me with dual SK sidedrafts (Weber rip-offs) and the head had some interesting stuff done to it.The intake area on the head was carved out to raise the angle of the SK's and the combustion chambers were recessed with a flat mill to fit pop up pistons to gain compression without much head milling. I know others run pop-up pistons. Has anyone else done this?

 

Bob Kramer

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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sat Jan 11 13:35:48 2025
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 14:35:48 -0600
Subject: [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups
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WOW! 
Nice looking setup. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 11, 2025, at 13:48, JIm Gray via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Yep, I did exactly that plus deshrouded the valves. I took off just enough to remove the shrouds at the valves and went with Wiseco pop ups made to order through BF&E. Also welded in and reshaped the exhaust valve pockets and part of the ports. It spent a lot of time on the flow bench.
> The head I built before this one eventually cracked due to being milled to thin so I went the other way to get compression.
> jg
>  
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Kramer via Fot
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 8:33 AM
> To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups
>  
> I am finally rebuilding the engine I got with the #67 TR4 many years ago. The car came to me with dual SK sidedrafts (Weber rip-offs) and the head had some interesting stuff done to it.The intake area on the head was carved out to raise the angle of the SK's and the combustion chambers were recessed with a flat mill to fit pop up pistons to gain compression without much head milling. I know others run pop-up pistons. Has anyone else done this?
>  
> Bob Kramer
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 11 13:56:58 2025
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 14:56:58 -0600
Subject: [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups
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This is what I got. Dennis Shea was a Xerox (or was it Kodak) engineer.
You're setup looks like it has a little more thought behind it. I left the
carbon pattern on the piston to show the pattern.
Bob Kramer


On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 1:23?PM <toodamnfunky at comcast.net> wrote:

> Yep, I did exactly that plus deshrouded the valves. I took off just enough
> to remove the shrouds at the valves and went with Wiseco pop ups made to
> order through BF&E. Also welded in and reshaped the exhaust valve pockets
> and part of the ports. It spent a lot of time on the flow bench.
>
> The head I built before this one eventually cracked due to being milled to
> thin so I went the other way to get compression.
>
> jg
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob Kramer via Fot
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2025 8:33 AM
> *To:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups
>
>
>
> I am finally rebuilding the engine I got with the #67 TR4 many years ago.
> The car came to me with dual SK sidedrafts (Weber rip-offs) and the head
> had some interesting stuff done to it.The intake area on the head was
> carved out to raise the angle of the SK's and the combustion chambers were
> recessed with a flat mill to fit pop up pistons to gain compression without
> much head milling. I know others run pop-up pistons. Has anyone else done
> this?
>
>
>
> Bob Kramer
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Sat Jan 11 16:24:22 2025
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 16:24:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups
In-Reply-To: <2141024804.2930800.1736631219721@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CABFvdWt0f9mN=AoKfe0vqSQFae-5twbCwy4vuk0QmLJsW5cVmA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <02a701db647f$f2d65ac0$d8831040$@comcast.net>

Dave,

I?ll have to dig out the build book for that head to say how much I took off. It wasn?t a lot but enough to remove the material around the valves. I?ve attached the dome info.

They put the dome that I wanted on them.

The CR on this motor is 13.2:1. Also a pic of the tool I made to shape the combustion chambers. Welded to an old valve. Not exactly CNC but repeatable.

jg

 

From: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net> 
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:34 PM
To: toodamnfunky at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups

 

Hi Jim, 

Great work as usual.  Looks awesome. What are the pistons and how much came off the head?  What is the pop-up CCs?  

Dave H.  

On 01/11/2025 11:23 AM PST JIm Gray via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

  

  

Yep, I did exactly that plus deshrouded the valves. I took off just enough to remove the shrouds at the valves and went with Wiseco pop ups made to order through BF&E. Also welded in and reshaped the exhaust valve pockets and part of the ports. It spent a lot of time on the flow bench.

The head I built before this one eventually cracked due to being milled to thin so I went the other way to get compression.

jg

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Kramer via Fot
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 8:33 AM
To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Fot] milling TR4 head for pop-ups

 

I am finally rebuilding the engine I got with the #67 TR4 many years ago. The car came to me with dual SK sidedrafts (Weber rip-offs) and the head had some interesting stuff done to it.The intake area on the head was carved out to raise the angle of the SK's and the combustion chambers were recessed with a flat mill to fit pop up pistons to gain compression without much head milling. I know others run pop-up pistons. Has anyone else done this?

 

Bob Kramer

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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sun Jan 19 13:15:48 2025
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 14:15:48 -0600
Subject: [Fot] AC fuel pump shaft seal
Message-ID: <3A72D7F2-91C7-4BBE-B52C-29A0072F870F@icloud.com>

?Anyone know where to source one of these seals?

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From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Jan 20 01:27:56 2025
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 09:27:56 +0100
Subject: [Fot] AC fuel pump shaft seal
In-Reply-To: <3A72D7F2-91C7-4BBE-B52C-29A0072F870F@icloud.com>
References: <3A72D7F2-91C7-4BBE-B52C-29A0072F870F@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <004b01db6b15$35969d70$a0c3d850$@camoletti.ch>

Hello Greg ! 
TRF used to stock those, but since the 2023 fire I do not know if this item is back on track.


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Greg Blake via Fot
Envoy? : dimanche 19 janvier 2025 21:16
? : Fot
Objet : [Fot] AC fuel pump shaft seal

?Anyone know where to source one of these seals?



From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Tue Jan 21 09:30:24 2025
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:30:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] WTD:TR6 oil pump screen
Message-ID: <SA1P220MB16567C9FEFC86000A2BB8BD4ABE62@SA1P220MB1656.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi All :-)
Anyone have just the oil pick up screen kicking around ?

TIA
Tony

[TR6 oil pump - Google Search.jpeg]

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From solarant at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 22 15:30:20 2025
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 22:30:20 +0000
Subject: [Fot] WTD:TR6 oil pump screen
In-Reply-To: <SA1P220MB16567C9FEFC86000A2BB8BD4ABE62@SA1P220MB1656.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <SA1P220MB16567C9FEFC86000A2BB8BD4ABE62@SA1P220MB1656.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <MN0PR84MB38671C3772BC2D0D215ABBFDD7E12@MN0PR84MB3867.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I happen to have one of those on my dining table.

[processed-BE482CE5-41EA-4555-BB56-26244FCB4AE0.jpeg]


Anthony Parker, Mechanical Engineer
________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 11:30:24 AM
To: Triumph FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] WTD:TR6 oil pump screen

Hi All :-)
Anyone have just the oil pick up screen kicking around ?

TIA
Tony

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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jan 23 05:32:32 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 07:32:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
Message-ID: <3f52f38647f825a86a4ab7eca1902b91@tr4racer.com>

Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!

Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!

One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
easy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk

See you at the track!

Henry Frye
2025 and 2026 KCup chair

From mecook at mindspring.com  Thu Jan 23 07:43:54 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:43:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
In-Reply-To: <3f52f38647f825a86a4ab7eca1902b91@tr4racer.com>
References: <3f52f38647f825a86a4ab7eca1902b91@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <004c01db6da5$3a013270$ae039750$@mindspring.com>

Henry,

Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.

https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4

He does make it look too easy!

Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!

Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!

Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!

One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
easy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk

See you at the track!

Henry Frye
2025 and 2026 KCup chair
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jan 23 07:54:55 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:54:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
Message-ID: <5af377cedf270b649c1d98cef25f56fc@tr4racer.com>

I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident 
octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of the 
States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3. John 
was always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in 
motorcycle racing usually came up in some way or another. After "aging 
out" on two wheels he decided it would be a better idea to race on four 
wheels and was still on track with us last year at the age of 88 years 
young! At the spring race at VIR I see he was still right in the mix, 
finishing 12th out of 29 runners in the Saturday race.

Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my 
archives. In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this 
introduction to the FOT.

"I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels since 
the 40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years 
while in college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports car, an 
Austin Healy 3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912, then 
a Merc 280SL, now an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the 
track. Crewed for a friend in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA 
events then got into motorcycles. I road motorcycle road-racers for 
about 10 years and when I retired from riding, built and tuned 250cc GP 
road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro circuit for about 7 years. We 
did pretty well, never finished worse than 5th. in overall standings and 
won the national
championship in 1990. My good friend Ceasar Cone got me back into sports 
car racing and when it came time to buy a car I decided that if I was 
going vintage racing I wanted a truly vintage car and I think the TR3A 
is a perfect truly vintage car."

Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...

https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty

Henry Frye

From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 23 08:41:33 2025
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:41:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
In-Reply-To: <5af377cedf270b649c1d98cef25f56fc@tr4racer.com>
References: <5af377cedf270b649c1d98cef25f56fc@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWvwihTQsh4GZkV7-khL7swf4mhnXg2pqcr7Q5Aka9MGZw@mail.gmail.com>

Henry

John was quite the steward of his cars. He bought his first yellow TR3 from
Larry Young. It was my first race car and I had sold it in 2000 to another
guy in our club. Larry bought from him for the 2003 season and started
improving it immediately. Larry raced with us for around 5 years, long
enough to use his engineering background to become a camshaft "master".
After he couldn't race anymore he sold the car to John in what might have
been in 2008 or 2009. When I saw the car again at the first Pitt Race K Cup
I almost didn't recognize it, it was so much better prepared. It later met
its end and I think John built another.

Bob Kramer


On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:24?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident
> octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of the
> States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3. John
> was always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in
> motorcycle racing usually came up in some way or another. After "aging
> out" on two wheels he decided it would be a better idea to race on four
> wheels and was still on track with us last year at the age of 88 years
> young! At the spring race at VIR I see he was still right in the mix,
> finishing 12th out of 29 runners in the Saturday race.
>
> Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my
> archives. In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this
> introduction to the FOT.
>
> "I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels since
> the 40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years
> while in college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports car, an
> Austin Healy 3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912, then
> a Merc 280SL, now an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the
> track. Crewed for a friend in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA
> events then got into motorcycles. I road motorcycle road-racers for
> about 10 years and when I retired from riding, built and tuned 250cc GP
> road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro circuit for about 7 years. We
> did pretty well, never finished worse than 5th. in overall standings and
> won the national
> championship in 1990. My good friend Ceasar Cone got me back into sports
> car racing and when it came time to buy a car I decided that if I was
> going vintage racing I wanted a truly vintage car and I think the TR3A
> is a perfect truly vintage car."
>
> Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...
>
> https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty
>
> Henry Frye
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 23 09:20:33 2025
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 11:20:33 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Thu Jan 23 09:31:19 2025
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 10:31:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWvwihTQsh4GZkV7-khL7swf4mhnXg2pqcr7Q5Aka9MGZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5af377cedf270b649c1d98cef25f56fc@tr4racer.com>
 <CABFvdWvwihTQsh4GZkV7-khL7swf4mhnXg2pqcr7Q5Aka9MGZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3cf94909-3f1b-4622-a4e1-f53897cfb6f9@pobox.com>

I met John when he contacted me about my TR3A racer. I think it was 
2008. He said he found it on something like the 10 screen during a 
google search. He was already in his 70s. I wasn't sure he was a real 
"Triumph guy" (after all he had owned a Porsche). As it turned out, he 
was a very enthusiastic and durable Triumph racer, excellent driver, and 
continued the transformation of that car.
 ?- Larry


On 1/23/2025 9:41 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
> Henry
>
> John was quite the steward of his?cars. He bought his first yellow TR3 
> from Larry Young. It was my first race car and I had sold it in 2000 
> to another guy in our club. Larry bought from him for the 2003 season 
> and started improving it immediately. Larry raced with us for around 5 
> years, long enough to use his engineering background to become a 
> camshaft "master".? After he couldn't?race anymore he sold the car to 
> John in what might have been in 2008 or 2009. When I saw the car again 
> at the first Pitt Race K Cup I almost didn't recognize it, it was so 
> much better prepared. It later met its end and I think John built?another.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:24?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
> wrote:
>
>     I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident
>     octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of
>     the
>     States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3.
>     John
>     was always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in
>     motorcycle racing usually came up in some way or another. After
>     "aging
>     out" on two wheels he decided it would be a better idea to race on
>     four
>     wheels and was still on track with us last year at the age of 88
>     years
>     young! At the spring race at VIR I see he was still right in the mix,
>     finishing 12th out of 29 runners in the Saturday race.
>
>     Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my
>     archives. In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this
>     introduction to the FOT.
>
>     "I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels
>     since
>     the 40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years
>     while in college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports
>     car, an
>     Austin Healy 3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912,
>     then
>     a Merc 280SL, now an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the
>     track. Crewed for a friend in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA
>     events then got into motorcycles. I road motorcycle road-racers for
>     about 10 years and when I retired from riding, built and tuned
>     250cc GP
>     road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro circuit for about 7 years. We
>     did pretty well, never finished worse than 5th. in overall
>     standings and
>     won the national
>     championship in 1990. My good friend Ceasar Cone got me back into
>     sports
>     car racing and when it came time to buy a car I decided that if I was
>     going vintage racing I wanted a truly vintage car and I think the
>     TR3A
>     is a perfect truly vintage car."
>
>     Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...
>
>     https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty
>
>     Henry Frye
>     _______________________________________________
>     fot at autox.team.net
>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jan 23 10:18:25 2025
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 12:18:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
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I always made a point of dropping by and talking to John when we were at the same race weekend, always at Summit Point and sometimes in Pittsburgh.  I think the last time I saw him was this past Spring at the Jefferson 500.  John was supported by John Baucom (Motorsports), who always had that TR3 (and its replacement Tr3 #2) looking great and running well.  Hasty told me he planned to celebrate his 89th birthday at Roebling Road with VDCA this past December - didn?t quite make it. 

I often cite John as my role model in vintage racing - I hope I?m still racing in 20+ years, as he was.  Five years ago, he was a front runner.  Even this past year, still solidly mid-pack or better.  He was my image of a true southern gentleman lawyer, and I mean that in the best possible way!

RIP, John.  I?ll run some laps in your honor at Summit Point this Spring.

Scott Janzen

On Jan 23, 2025, at 9:54 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of the States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3. John was always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in motorcycle racing usually came up in some way or another. After "aging out" on two wheels he decided it would be a better idea to race on four wheels and was still on track with us last year at the age of 88 years young! At the spring race at VIR I see he was still right in the mix, finishing 12th out of 29 runners in the Saturday race.

Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my archives. In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this introduction to the FOT.

"I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels since the 40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years while in college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports car, an Austin Healy 3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912, then a Merc 280SL, now an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the track. Crewed for a friend in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA events then got into motorcycles. I road motorcycle road-racers for about 10 years and when I retired from riding, built and tuned 250cc GP road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro circuit for about 7 years. We did pretty well, never finished worse than 5th. in overall standings and won the national
championship in 1990. My good friend Ceasar Cone got me back into sports car racing and when it came time to buy a car I decided that if I was going vintage racing I wanted a truly vintage car and I think the TR3A is a perfect truly vintage car."

Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...

https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty

Henry Frye
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 23 10:22:04 2025
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:22:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
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At the USVGP at Watkins Glen in 2019, I was standing on?the podium for ?big Triumph 4 cylinders? along with John Styduhar, when John Hasty was making his way up. ?John S gave me a nudge, and said, give John a hand onto the podium! ?
So, I helped John Hasty up, and the 3 of us enjoyed the moment. ? I had not met John Hasty before that, but every time I saw him?afterwards,?without fail, he always thanked me for helping him up onto the podium that day! ?Those thanks should belong with John S, in reality? but I was happy to help ?lend a hand? and he was ever so thankful. ?He really had that car flying, blowing by me hitting overdrive coming out of the toe of the boot, his speed defying age for sure. ?Godspeed, John!

Dave Gott

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On Thursday, January 23, 2025, 11:54 AM, Larry Young via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 I met John when he contacted me about my TR3A racer. I think it was 2008. He said he found it on something like the 10 screen during a google search. He was already in his 70s. I wasn't sure he was a real "Triumph guy" (after all he had owned a Porsche). As it turned out, he was a very enthusiastic and durable Triumph racer, excellent driver, and continued the transformation of that car.
 ?- Larry
 
 
 On 1/23/2025 9:41 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
  
 
 Henry 
  John was quite the steward of his?cars. He bought his first yellow TR3 from Larry Young. It was my first race car and I had sold it in 2000 to another guy in our club. Larry bought from him for the 2003 season and started improving it immediately. Larry raced with us for around 5 years, long enough to use his engineering background to become a camshaft "master".? After he couldn't?race anymore he sold the car to John in what might have been in 2008 or 2009. When I saw the car again at the first Pitt Race K Cup I almost didn't recognize it, it was so much better prepared. It later met its end and I think John built?another. 
    Bob Kramer   
  
  On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:24?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
  
I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident 
 octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of the 
 States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3. John 
 was always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in 
 motorcycle racing usually came up in some way or another. After "aging 
 out" on two wheels he decided it would be a better idea to race on four 
 wheels and was still on track with us last year at the age of 88 years 
 young! At the spring race at VIR I see he was still right in the mix, 
 finishing 12th out of 29 runners in the Saturday race.
 
 Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my 
 archives. In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this 
 introduction to the FOT.
 
 "I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels since 
 the 40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years 
 while in college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports car, an 
 Austin Healy 3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912, then 
 a Merc 280SL, now an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the 
 track. Crewed for a friend in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA 
 events then got into motorcycles. I road motorcycle road-racers for 
 about 10 years and when I retired from riding, built and tuned 250cc GP 
 road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro circuit for about 7 years. We 
 did pretty well, never finished worse than 5th. in overall standings and 
 won the national
 championship in 1990. My good friend Ceasar Cone got me back into sports 
 car racing and when it came time to buy a car I decided that if I was 
 going vintage racing I wanted a truly vintage car and I think the TR3A 
 is a perfect truly vintage car."
 
 Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...
 
 https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty
 
 Henry Frye
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 23 10:28:09 2025
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:28:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Fw:  Remembering John Hasty
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 Sad news indeed.? John's latest race car was a TR-3B which I built to be a vintage racer in the late 90's.? I built the car while living in Southern Indiana and sold it to Phil Bradberry who lived in Kentucky at the time.? Now I live about 5 miles from Phil in North Carolina and my old car ended up with John in Charlotte.? Small world.
Jack

   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 10:27:36 AM ESTSubject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
 I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident 
octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of the 
States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3. John 
was always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in 
motorcycle racing usually came up in some way or another. After "aging 
out" on two wheels he decided it would be a better idea to race on four 
wheels and was still on track with us last year at the age of 88 years 
young! At the spring race at VIR I see he was still right in the mix, 
finishing 12th out of 29 runners in the Saturday race.

Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my 
archives. In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this 
introduction to the FOT.

"I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels since 
the 40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years 
while in college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports car, an 
Austin Healy 3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912, then 
a Merc 280SL, now an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the 
track. Crewed for a friend in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA 
events then got into motorcycles. I road motorcycle road-racers for 
about 10 years and when I retired from riding, built and tuned 250cc GP 
road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro circuit for about 7 years. We 
did pretty well, never finished worse than 5th. in overall standings and 
won the national
championship in 1990. My good friend Ceasar Cone got me back into sports 
car racing and when it came time to buy a car I decided that if I was 
going vintage racing I wanted a truly vintage car and I think the TR3A 
is a perfect truly vintage car."

Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...

https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty

Henry Frye
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Thu Jan 23 10:49:21 2025
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 12:49:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
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Sad News.  I always enjoyed talking with John at VDCA events and hearing about his many adventures in Motorsports.  His Yellow TR3 was well prepared, maintained and Driven!

He will be missed!  Here are some pics with John & the Triumphs at Roebling Road!

Terry Sopher

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> On Jan 23, 2025, at 10:14, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of the States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3. John was always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in motorcycle racing usually came up in some way or another. After "aging out" on two wheels he decided it would be a better idea to race on four wheels and was still on track with us last year at the age of 88 years young! At the spring race at VIR I see he was still right in the mix, finishing 12th out of 29 runners in the Saturday race.
> 
> Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my archives. In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this introduction to the FOT.
> 
> "I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels since the 40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years while in college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports car, an Austin Healy 3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912, then a Merc 280SL, now an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the track. Crewed for a friend in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA events then got into motorcycles. I road motorcycle road-racers for about 10 years and when I retired from riding, built and tuned 250cc GP road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro circuit for about 7 years. We did pretty well, never finished worse than 5th. in overall standings and won the national
> championship in 1990. My good friend Ceasar Cone got me back into sports car racing and when it came time to buy a car I decided that if I was going vintage racing I wanted a truly vintage car and I think the TR3A is a perfect truly vintage car."
> 
> Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...
> 
> https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty
> 
> Henry Frye
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From michaelndeweerd at gmail.com  Thu Jan 23 11:22:19 2025
From: michaelndeweerd at gmail.com (Michael Deweerd)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:22:19 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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Henry,
When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that
Sunday has no racing but Monday does?  Is this correct?
When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?  I was originally planning on
driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work Tuesday
morning.
Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.

Thanks
Mike Deweerd


On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Henry,
>
> Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.
>
> https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
>
> He does make it look too easy!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via
> Fot
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
> To: FOT
> Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
>
> Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is
> not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more
> about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
>
> Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me
> of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet
> of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My
> list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and
> it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to
> the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
>
> One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could
> share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than
> Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic
> Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional
> driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing
> us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car
> could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat
> time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look
> easy!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
>
> See you at the track!
>
> Henry Frye
> 2025 and 2026 KCup chair
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jan 23 12:25:59 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 14:25:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
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Here's that podium at the Glen.
mike h (not on it.....)

[image: P1014835.JPG]

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 1:36?PM David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

>
> At the USVGP at Watkins Glen in 2019, I was standing on the podium for
> ?big Triumph 4 cylinders? along with John Styduhar, when John Hasty was
> making his way up.  John S gave me a nudge, and said, give John a hand onto
> the podium!
>
> So, I helped John Hasty up, and the 3 of us enjoyed the moment.   I had
> not met John Hasty before that, but every time I saw
> him afterwards, without fail, he always thanked me for helping him up onto
> the podium that day!  Those thanks should belong with John S, in reality?
> but I was happy to help ?lend a hand? and he was ever so thankful.  He
> really had that car flying, blowing by me hitting overdrive coming out of
> the toe of the boot, his speed defying age for sure.  Godspeed, John!
>
>
> Dave Gott
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_>
>
> On Thursday, January 23, 2025, 11:54 AM, Larry Young via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I met John when he contacted me about my TR3A racer. I think it was 2008.
> He said he found it on something like the 10 screen during a google search.
> He was already in his 70s. I wasn't sure he was a real "Triumph guy" (after
> all he had owned a Porsche). As it turned out, he was a very enthusiastic
> and durable Triumph racer, excellent driver, and continued the
> transformation of that car.
>  - Larry
>
>
> On 1/23/2025 9:41 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
>
> Henry
>
> John was quite the steward of his cars. He bought his first yellow TR3
> from Larry Young. It was my first race car and I had sold it in 2000 to
> another guy in our club. Larry bought from him for the 2003 season and
> started improving it immediately. Larry raced with us for around 5 years,
> long enough to use his engineering background to become a camshaft
> "master".  After he couldn't race anymore he sold the car to John in what
> might have been in 2008 or 2009. When I saw the car again at the first Pitt
> Race K Cup I almost didn't recognize it, it was so much better prepared. It
> later met its end and I think John built another.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:24?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident
> octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of the
> States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3. John
> was always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in
> motorcycle racing usually came up in some way or another. After "aging
> out" on two wheels he decided it would be a better idea to race on four
> wheels and was still on track with us last year at the age of 88 years
> young! At the spring race at VIR I see he was still right in the mix,
> finishing 12th out of 29 runners in the Saturday race.
>
> Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my
> archives. In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this
> introduction to the FOT.
>
> "I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels since
> the 40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years
> while in college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports car, an
> Austin Healy 3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912, then
> a Merc 280SL, now an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the
> track. Crewed for a friend in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA
> events then got into motorcycles. I road motorcycle road-racers for
> about 10 years and when I retired from riding, built and tuned 250cc GP
> road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro circuit for about 7 years. We
> did pretty well, never finished worse than 5th. in overall standings and
> won the national
> championship in 1990. My good friend Ceasar Cone got me back into sports
> car racing and when it came time to buy a car I decided that if I was
> going vintage racing I wanted a truly vintage car and I think the TR3A
> is a perfect truly vintage car."
>
> Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...
>
> https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty
>
> Henry Frye
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 23 13:19:03 2025
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (kekjacobsen)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 14:19:03 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
In-Reply-To: <CAHAH3R75RtypnNitekaD8JtTcECoJWYg9rh5ROufMn20TbkU7Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Lime Rock has noise restrictions and a church across from the main straight.? No racing on Sundays!??KarenFormer Skip Barber employee)Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 1/23/25  2:09 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:  Cc: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock! Henry,When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?? Is this correct??When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?? I was originally?planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work?Tuesday morning.Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.Thanks?Mike DeweerdOn Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:Henry,

Great video!? ?Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.

https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4

He does make it look too easy!

Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!

Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!

Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!

One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
easy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk

See you at the track!

Henry Frye
2025 and 2026 KCup chair
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 23 15:41:22 2025
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:41:22 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
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Oh, RIP John. Cool an d fast guy.

Cheers
Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 3:55 PM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty

I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident
octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of the
States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3. John was
always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in motorcycle racing
usually came up in some way or another. After "aging out" on two wheels he
decided it would be a better idea to race on four wheels and was still on
track with us last year at the age of 88 years young! At the spring race at
VIR I see he was still right in the mix, finishing 12th out of 29 runners in
the Saturday race.

Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my archives.
In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this introduction to the
FOT.

"I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels since the
40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years while in
college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports car, an Austin Healy
3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912, then a Merc 280SL, now
an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the track. Crewed for a friend
in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA events then got into motorcycles.
I road motorcycle road-racers for about 10 years and when I retired from
riding, built and tuned 250cc GP road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro
circuit for about 7 years. We did pretty well, never finished worse than
5th. in overall standings and won the national championship in 1990. My good
friend Ceasar Cone got me back into sports car racing and when it came time
to buy a car I decided that if I was going vintage racing I wanted a truly
vintage car and I think the TR3A is a perfect truly vintage car."

Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...

https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty

Henry Frye
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Thu Jan 23 15:42:56 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 16:42:56 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
In-Reply-To: <CAHAH3R75RtypnNitekaD8JtTcECoJWYg9rh5ROufMn20TbkU7Q@mail.gmail.com>
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It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.? 
My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.? Confirmed - 
looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:

"Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 
miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in 
Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If 
driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth 
finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.

For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers 
exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more 
appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing 
sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice 
will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main 
event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!

We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday 
afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our 
third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup."

Regards, Tony Drews

On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:
> Henry,
> When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that 
> Sunday has no racing but Monday does?? Is this correct?
> When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?? I was originally?planning 
> on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to 
> work?Tuesday morning.
> Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.
>
> Thanks
> Mike Deweerd
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
> wrote:
>
>     Henry,
>
>     Great video!? ?Peter also has posted a full race video for the
>     same event.
>
>     https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
>
>     He does make it look too easy!
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Mark
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>     yellow04 via Fot
>     Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
>     To: FOT
>     Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
>
>     Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside
>     temp is
>     not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more
>     about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
>
>     Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to
>     inform me
>     of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick
>     spreadsheet
>     of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are
>     coming. My
>     list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered
>     Specials, and
>     it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to
>     the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
>
>     One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could
>     share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other
>     than
>     Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic
>     Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional
>     driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video
>     showing
>     us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore
>     production car
>     could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat
>     time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it
>     look
>     easy!
>
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
>
>     See you at the track!
>
>     Henry Frye
>     2025 and 2026 KCup chair
>     _______________________________________________
>     fot at autox.team.net
>
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From michaelndeweerd at gmail.com  Fri Jan 24 04:35:05 2025
From: michaelndeweerd at gmail.com (Michael Deweerd)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 06:35:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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Thanks Tony,  I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at
Lime Rock?
 just curious.
Cheers.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote:

> It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.
> My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.  Confirmed -
> looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:
>
> "Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17
> miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls
> Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving
> your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding
> your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.
>
> For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers
> exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more
> appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing
> sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice
> will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main
> event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!
>
> We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday
> afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third
> race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup."
>
> Regards, Tony Drews
> On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:
>
> Henry,
> When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that
> Sunday has no racing but Monday does?  Is this correct?
> When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?  I was originally planning on
> driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work Tuesday
> morning.
> Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.
>
> Thanks
> Mike Deweerd
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Henry,
>>
>> Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
>>
>> He does make it look too easy!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via
>> Fot
>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
>> To: FOT
>> Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
>>
>> Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is
>> not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more
>> about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
>>
>> Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me
>> of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet
>> of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My
>> list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and
>> it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to
>> the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
>>
>> One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could
>> share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than
>> Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic
>> Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional
>> driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing
>> us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car
>> could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat
>> time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look
>> easy!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
>>
>> See you at the track!
>>
>> Henry Frye
>> 2025 and 2026 KCup chair
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Fri Jan 24 05:17:20 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 07:17:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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Michael, the SCCA limit (not the rules we'll be running under) is 25 cars
per mile of track = 37 cars. They do run larger grids at vintage events,
based on things like speed differential.

mike h

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 6:57?AM Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks Tony,  I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit
> at Lime Rock?
>  just curious.
> Cheers.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote:
>
>> It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.
>> My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.  Confirmed -
>> looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:
>>
>> "Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17
>> miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls
>> Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving
>> your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding
>> your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.
>>
>> For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers
>> exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more
>> appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing
>> sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice
>> will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main
>> event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!
>>
>> We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday
>> afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third
>> race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup."
>>
>> Regards, Tony Drews
>> On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:
>>
>> Henry,
>> When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that
>> Sunday has no racing but Monday does?  Is this correct?
>> When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?  I was originally planning on
>> driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work Tuesday
>> morning.
>> Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mike Deweerd
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Henry,
>>>
>>> Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same
>>> event.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
>>>
>>> He does make it look too easy!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via
>>> Fot
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
>>> To: FOT
>>> Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
>>>
>>> Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is
>>> not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more
>>> about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
>>>
>>> Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me
>>> of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet
>>> of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My
>>> list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and
>>> it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to
>>> the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
>>>
>>> One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could
>>> share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than
>>> Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic
>>> Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional
>>> driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing
>>> us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car
>>> could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat
>>> time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look
>>> easy!
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
>>>
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Fri Jan 24 05:35:40 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 07:35:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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Thanks for stepping in on this Tony. Busy day in the shop yesterday! 

Sunday is a no race engines day. As this is the 43rd running of the Lime
Rock Historic Festival, rest assured the track has Sunday filled with
eye candy for car people.  

>From the LRP website: 

As a part of HF43's Sunday in the Park, The Lime Rock Concours offers a
special line up of beautiful and historic cars across several groups to
vie for the Best-in-Show Award. Dress in your Sunday best to wander
around the Park and gander at the finest examples of automobiles and
motorcycles in the northeast. 

Sunday's second event is the Gathering of the Marques, which hosts
enthusiasts and clubs representing nearly every make and model, all
arranged around the 1.5-mile Lime Rock course. With as many as 800 cars
expected, the event will showcase an incredibly diverse display of cars
grouped by make, model or country of origin.
/end of LRP website quote 

Plus, we are planning some time on Sunday for a FOT Gathering, food and
libation, so stay tuned for those details as they become available! 

The Kastner Cup race will run on Monday, in the vicinity of 1:30 to 2:00
PM, subject to change of course! 

Henry Frye
2025 and 2026 KCup chair 

On 2025-01-23 17:42, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:

> It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.  My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.  Confirmed - looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th: 
> 
> "Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.  
> 
> For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!  
> 
> We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup." 
> 
> Regards, Tony Drews
> 
> On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote: 
> 
> Henry, 
> When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?  Is this correct?  
> When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?  I was originally planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work Tuesday morning. 
> Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off. 
> 
> Thanks  
> Mike Deweerd 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Henry,
> 
> Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.
> 
> https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
> 
> He does make it look too easy!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
> To: FOT
> Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
> 
> Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
> not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
> about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
> 
> Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
> of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
> of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
> list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
> it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
> the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
> 
> One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
> share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
> Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
> Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
> driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
> us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
> could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
> time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
> easy!
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
> 
> See you at the track!
> 
> Henry Frye
> 2025 and 2026 KCup chair
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Fri Jan 24 05:50:33 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 07:50:33 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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Mike H. is spot on, we are looking in the vicinity of 40 cars as the max
number for the Kastner Cup run group. Keep in mind that Triumphs that do
not run vintage legal tires will run with a more appropriate run group
all weekend, but then will run the Kastner Cup race with the rest of us.
I wish I could say I was concerned about having too many Triumphs on
track for the Monday afternoon KCup race, but attrition always rears its
ugly head and we do not expect to have an issue with car counts! 

Also, if need be we will move cars on extreme ends of the time sheet to
more appropriate groups.

Henry Frye
2025 and 2026 KCup chair 

On 2025-01-24 07:17, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote:

> Michael, the SCCA limit (not the rules we'll be running under) is 25 cars per mile of track = 37 cars. They do run larger grids at vintage events, based on things like speed differential. 
> 
> mike h 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 6:57?AM Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
> 
>> Thanks Tony,  I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at Lime Rock? 
>> just curious. 
>> Cheers. 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
>> To: FOT
>> Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
>> 
>> Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
>> not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
>> about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
>> 
>> Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
>> of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
>> of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
>> list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
>> it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
>> the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
>> 
>> One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
>> share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
>> Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
>> Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
>> driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
>> us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
>> could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
>> time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
>> easy!
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
>> 
>> See you at the track!
>> 
>> Henry Frye
>> 2025 and 2026 KCup chair
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jan 24 09:27:54 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:27:54 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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Mike, I run R888R's on my TR-4 too, I'm assuming they are not 
objectionable to this race group.

I think Henry answered the grid limit question (about 40 cars).

Regards, Tony Drews

On 1/24/2025 5:35 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:
> Thanks Tony,? I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid 
> limit at Lime Rock?
> ?just curious.
> Cheers.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote:
>
>     It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet
>     day.? My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.?
>     Confirmed - looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:
>
>     "Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race
>     cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a
>     street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles
>     from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your
>     thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take
>     in the scene.
>
>     For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our
>     numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars
>     in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both
>     ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond
>     vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where
>     you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs
>     will together for the Kastner Cup race!
>
>     We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on
>     Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday
>     morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run
>     for the Kastner Cup."
>
>     Regards, Tony Drews
>
>     On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:
>>     Henry,
>>     When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems
>>     that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?? Is this correct?
>>     When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?? I was
>>     originally?planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours)
>>     and return to work?Tuesday morning.
>>     Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.
>>
>>     Thanks
>>     Mike Deweerd
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot
>>     <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>         Henry,
>>
>>         Great video!? ?Peter also has posted a full race video for
>>         the same event.
>>
>>         https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
>>
>>         He does make it look too easy!
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>
>>         Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>         -----Original Message-----
>>         From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>>         yellow04 via Fot
>>         Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
>>         To: FOT
>>         Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
>>
>>         Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an
>>         outside temp is
>>         not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share
>>         some more
>>         about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
>>
>>         Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and
>>         to inform me
>>         of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick
>>         spreadsheet
>>         of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are
>>         coming. My
>>         list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered
>>         Specials, and
>>         it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets
>>         added to
>>         the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
>>
>>         One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I
>>         could
>>         share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none
>>         other than
>>         Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's
>>         Historic
>>         Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known
>>         professional
>>         driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this
>>         video showing
>>         us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore
>>         production car
>>         could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with
>>         no seat
>>         time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter
>>         makes it look
>>         easy!
>>
>>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
>>
>>         See you at the track!
>>
>>         Henry Frye
>>         2025 and 2026 KCup chair
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         fot at autox.team.net
>>
>>         http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Fri Jan 24 09:51:45 2025
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 16:51:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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With 40 TR?s potential starting the K cup race ? let do a reverse grid :-) slowest time on the pole !!
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2025, at 8:44?AM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?

Mike, I run R888R's on my TR-4 too, I'm assuming they are not objectionable to this race group.

I think Henry answered the grid limit question (about 40 cars).

Regards, Tony Drews

On 1/24/2025 5:35 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:
Thanks Tony,  I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at Lime Rock?
 just curious.
Cheers.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com<mailto:tony at tonydrews.com>> wrote:

It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.  My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.  Confirmed - looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:

"Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.

For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!

We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup."

Regards, Tony Drews

On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:
Henry,
When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?  Is this correct?
When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?  I was originally planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work Tuesday morning.
Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.

Thanks
Mike Deweerd


On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Henry,

Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.

https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4

He does make it look too easy!

Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!

Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is
not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more
about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!

Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me
of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet
of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My
list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and
it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to
the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!

One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could
share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than
Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic
Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional
driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing
us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car
could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat
time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look
easy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk

See you at the track!

Henry Frye
2025 and 2026 KCup chair
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From jhorner68 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 24 09:55:14 2025
From: jhorner68 at gmail.com (Jaime Horner)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:55:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup add on
Message-ID: <6E738E13-FB4C-4456-BBF7-3A5BDC946154@gmail.com>

?Hello Henry, 
I just saw your email update on the Kastner Cup spreadsheet and video - thank you!

I am also another racer that would like to be added to the list. 

I have a ?71 TR6, car number 6
Let me know any information you need from me. 
Thanks, Jaime Horner 

From lymanazhd at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 24 10:57:29 2025
From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:57:29 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup add on
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Dave Riddle to drive Tonya & Lyman Scherer?s 1965 TR4a IRS #65! 
We are organizing the trip from Arizona now!
The BajaTriumph TR3 has retired from road racing and is getting rebuilt for the 60th Baja Mexican 1000 in 2027!
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2025, at 10:38?AM, Jaime Horner via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello Henry,
> I just saw your email update on the Kastner Cup spreadsheet and video - thank you!
> 
> I am also another racer that would like to be added to the list.
> 
> I have a ?71 TR6, car number 6
> Let me know any information you need from me.
> Thanks, Jaime Horner
> _______________________________________________
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Jan 24 11:22:04 2025
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 08:22:04 -1000
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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Always fun, especially with a fairly simple track with lots of passing opportunities. Might be a little nerve-wracking for the "leaders?. I ran at Limerock during the All Aluminum Tour in 2007. The track is fairly simple, as Peter Krause?s video shows, but that makes it technical. The surrounding towns are lovely. I got to replace the clutch in Peyote during the Sunday quiet time aided by my brothers?Bob and David?with some wonderful parts from J.R. Mitchell of GMT racing and some of the racers. It was a great experience and Peyote did pretty well at the track. My brother David passed away soon after?much too soon. He had a heart attack while rescuing a tourist who had grounded a rented sailboat. So the memory, and his comments in the blog post I did about it, are particularly important to me. https://www.ponostyle.com/2017/10/20/30-babcocks/

Have so much fun at Limerock. I won?t be joining you but I?ll be thinking of you all. It?s a very cool track and I count it as one of the places that got me interested in racing in the first place. I went there in a friend?s TR3 to watch a race back in the early ?60s. It was a simpler spot then?just a race track with nothing but grass around it. It was the first car race I?d ever been to. It seemed impossibly out of reach, but I wanted to be part of the fun. Some things work out the way you?d like them to. 

> On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:51?AM, Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> With 40 TR?s potential starting the K cup race ? let do a reverse grid :-) slowest time on the pole !! 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2025, at 8:44?AM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Mike, I run R888R's on my TR-4 too, I'm assuming they are not objectionable to this race group.
>> 
>> I think Henry answered the grid limit question (about 40 cars).
>> 
>> Regards, Tony Drews
>> 
>> On 1/24/2025 5:35 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:
>>> Thanks Tony,  I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at Lime Rock?
>>>  just curious.
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com <mailto:tony at tonydrews.com>> wrote:
>>>> It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.  My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.  Confirmed - looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:
>>>> 
>>>> "Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene. 
>>>> 
>>>> For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race! 
>>>> 
>>>> We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup."
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Tony Drews
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:
>>>>> Henry,
>>>>> When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?  Is this correct? 
>>>>> When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?  I was originally planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work Tuesday morning.
>>>>> Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>> Mike Deweerd
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> Henry,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He does make it look too easy!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
>>>>>> To: FOT
>>>>>> Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
>>>>>> not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
>>>>>> about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
>>>>>> of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
>>>>>> of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
>>>>>> list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
>>>>>> it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
>>>>>> the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
>>>>>> share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
>>>>>> Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
>>>>>> Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
>>>>>> driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
>>>>>> us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
>>>>>> could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
>>>>>> time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
>>>>>> easy!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> See you at the track!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Henry Frye
>>>>>> 2025 and 2026 KCup chair
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com <http://www.fot-racing.com/>
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Mike Deweerd
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
>>>>> 
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Jan 24 11:22:04 2025
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 08:22:04 -1000
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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Always fun, especially with a fairly simple track with lots of passing opportunities. Might be a little nerve-wracking for the "leaders?. I ran at Limerock during the All Aluminum Tour in 2007. The track is fairly simple, as Peter Krause?s video shows, but that makes it technical. The surrounding towns are lovely. I got to replace the clutch in Peyote during the Sunday quiet time aided by my brothers?Bob and David?with some wonderful parts from J.R. Mitchell of GMT racing and some of the racers. It was a great experience and Peyote did pretty well at the track. My brother David passed away soon after?much too soon. He had a heart attack while rescuing a tourist who had grounded a rented sailboat. So the memory, and his comments in the blog post I did about it, are particularly important to me. https://www.ponostyle.com/2017/10/20/30-babcocks/

Have so much fun at Limerock. I won?t be joining you but I?ll be thinking of you all. It?s a very cool track and I count it as one of the places that got me interested in racing in the first place. I went there in a friend?s TR3 to watch a race back in the early ?60s. It was a simpler spot then?just a race track with nothing but grass around it. It was the first car race I?d ever been to. It seemed impossibly out of reach, but I wanted to be part of the fun. Some things work out the way you?d like them to. 

> On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:51?AM, Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> With 40 TR?s potential starting the K cup race ? let do a reverse grid :-) slowest time on the pole !! 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2025, at 8:44?AM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Mike, I run R888R's on my TR-4 too, I'm assuming they are not objectionable to this race group.
>> 
>> I think Henry answered the grid limit question (about 40 cars).
>> 
>> Regards, Tony Drews
>> 
>> On 1/24/2025 5:35 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:
>>> Thanks Tony,  I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at Lime Rock?
>>>  just curious.
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com <mailto:tony at tonydrews.com>> wrote:
>>>> It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.  My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.  Confirmed - looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:
>>>> 
>>>> "Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene. 
>>>> 
>>>> For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race! 
>>>> 
>>>> We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup."
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Tony Drews
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:
>>>>> Henry,
>>>>> When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?  Is this correct? 
>>>>> When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?  I was originally planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work Tuesday morning.
>>>>> Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>> Mike Deweerd
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> Henry,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He does make it look too easy!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
>>>>>> To: FOT
>>>>>> Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
>>>>>> not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
>>>>>> about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
>>>>>> of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
>>>>>> of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
>>>>>> list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
>>>>>> it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
>>>>>> the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
>>>>>> share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
>>>>>> Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
>>>>>> Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
>>>>>> driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
>>>>>> us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
>>>>>> could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
>>>>>> time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
>>>>>> easy!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> See you at the track!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Henry Frye
>>>>>> 2025 and 2026 KCup chair
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com <http://www.fot-racing.com/>
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Mike Deweerd
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
>>>>> 
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>>> 
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From thompsong at prodigy.net  Fri Jan 24 11:44:18 2025
From: thompsong at prodigy.net (GREGORY THOMPSON)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 18:44:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Henry,
I will be there with #146 TR4. Reservations are made. I will also be attending the following week at The Glen.?
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From dave at microworks.net  Fri Jan 24 11:46:34 2025
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 18:46:34 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner 2025
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We understand there is a limit on the number of cars allowed on Track at Limerock. Has that limit for the Kastner already been reached? If there is still room we would register now. Since we would be coming from AZ we want to make sure such a long haul would not be in vain.

Note, we will not be bringing the BajaTR3 as she is getting prepared to return to run the 60th Anniversary Mexican 1000 in 2027. Instead we will be bringing a TR4 that has been a Racecar since 1965.

Sent from my Mobile Device there could be misspellings.

Dave Riddle
602.692.5276
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 24 11:50:50 2025
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 18:50:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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 Hi,
I won't say I know this for sure, but I'm pretty sure Skip wouldn't like this idea - no matter how fun it might be. If you haven't tried driving traffic at Lime Rock, I can tell you that it can be a nightmare. Anywhere you give up a corner to let a faster car pass, you loose between 1.5 and 4 seconds a lap. Even with a 20 minute feature, with our diverse run group your top 10 cars will be lapping the field 2 or maybe even three times.
I won't say that a reverse grid wouldn't be entertaining, but it could lead to some "dicey" moments.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 12:08:44 PM EST, Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 With 40 TR?s potential starting the K cup race ? let do a reverse grid :-) slowest time on the pole !!?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2025, at 8:44?AM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?
Mike, I run R888R's on my TR-4 too, I'm assuming they are not objectionable to this race group.

I think Henry answered the grid limit question (about 40 cars).

Regards, Tony Drews

On 1/24/2025 5:35 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:

Thanks Tony,? I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at Lime Rock??just curious.Cheers.

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote:


It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.? My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.? Confirmed - looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:

"Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.?

For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!?

We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup."

Regards, Tony Drews

On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:

Henry,When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?? Is this correct??When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?? I was originally?planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work?Tuesday morning.Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.
Thanks?Mike Deweerd

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Henry,

Great video!? ?Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.

https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4

He does make it look too easy!

Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!

Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!

Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!

One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
easy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk

See you at the track!

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From thompsong at prodigy.net  Fri Jan 24 12:24:49 2025
From: thompsong at prodigy.net (GREGORY THOMPSON)
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Russ Westfall has retired and lost his work email. He would like to be added again to the list.?
rwestfall1949 at gmail.com
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Fri Jan 24 15:14:42 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 17:14:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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As entertaining as a reverse grid sounds, don't get your hopes up, it is
not happening at Lime Rock this year. Sorry Tony!

Bob nailed it, passing opportunities are Lime Rock are few. Unless there
is a real speed differential between two cars or the lead car gives you
a clean pass, it just is not as easy as Bill Babcock remembers! Sorry
Bill! 

On 2025-01-24 13:50, Robert Lang via Fot wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> I won't say I know this for sure, but I'm pretty sure Skip wouldn't like this idea - no matter how fun it might be. If you haven't tried driving traffic at Lime Rock, I can tell you that it can be a nightmare. Anywhere you give up a corner to let a faster car pass, you loose between 1.5 and 4 seconds a lap. Even with a 20 minute feature, with our diverse run group your top 10 cars will be lapping the field 2 or maybe even three times. 
> 
> I won't say that a reverse grid wouldn't be entertaining, but it could lead to some "dicey" moments. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Bob Lang 
> 
> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 12:08:44 PM EST, Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
> 
> With 40 TR's potential starting the K cup race ... let do a reverse grid :-) slowest time on the pole !! 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2025, at 8:44?AM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Mike, I run R888R's on my TR-4 too, I'm assuming they are not objectionable to this race group. 
> 
> I think Henry answered the grid limit question (about 40 cars). 
> 
> Regards, Tony Drews
> 
> On 1/24/2025 5:35 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote: 
> Thanks Tony,  I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at Lime Rock? 
> just curious. 
> Cheers. 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote: 
> 
> It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.  My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.  Confirmed - looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th: 
> 
> "Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.  
> 
> For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!  
> 
> We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup." 
> 
> Regards, Tony Drews
> 
> On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote: 
> 
> Henry, 
> When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?  Is this correct?  
> When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?  I was originally planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work Tuesday morning. 
> Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off. 
> 
> Thanks  
> Mike Deweerd 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Henry,
> 
> Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.
> 
> https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
> 
> He does make it look too easy!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
> To: FOT
> Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
> 
> Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
> not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
> about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
> 
> Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
> of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
> of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
> list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
> it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
> the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
> 
> One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
> share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
> Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
> Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
> driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
> us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
> could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
> time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
> easy!
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
> 
> See you at the track!
> 
> Henry Frye
> 2025 and 2026 KCup chair
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 24 15:24:53 2025
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 22:24:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner 2025
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 We shouldn't get ahead of ourselves here - near as I can tell, registration isn't open for the Vintage Festival yet. At this point, just letting Henry know you're going to be there is probably the best you can do.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 03:01:31 PM EST, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  We understand there is a limit on the number of cars allowed on Track at Limerock. Has that limit for the Kastner already been reached? If there is still room we would register now. Since we would be coming from AZ we want to make sure such a long haul would not be in vain.?
Note, we will not be bringing the BajaTR3 as she is getting prepared to return to run the 60th Anniversary Mexican 1000 in 2027. Instead we will be bringing a TR4 that has been a Racecar since 1965.
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Jan 24 15:41:33 2025
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 12:41:33 -1000
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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Believe me, I know. I started from the back (had to fix the clutch) and had to pass everyone at least twice, sometimes three times. But I was mostly up against cars that were fast in a straight. Big fun though. 

> On Jan 24, 2025, at 12:14?PM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> As entertaining as a reverse grid sounds, don't get your hopes up, it is not happening at Lime Rock this year. Sorry Tony!
> 
>  
> Bob nailed it, passing opportunities are Lime Rock are few. Unless there is a real speed differential between two cars or the lead car gives you a clean pass, it just is not as easy as Bill Babcock remembers! Sorry Bill!
> 
> On 2025-01-24 13:50, Robert Lang via Fot wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I won't say I know this for sure, but I'm pretty sure Skip wouldn't like this idea - no matter how fun it might be. If you haven't tried driving traffic at Lime Rock, I can tell you that it can be a nightmare. Anywhere you give up a corner to let a faster car pass, you loose between 1.5 and 4 seconds a lap. Even with a 20 minute feature, with our diverse run group your top 10 cars will be lapping the field 2 or maybe even three times.
>>  
>> I won't say that a reverse grid wouldn't be entertaining, but it could lead to some "dicey" moments.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Bob Lang
>>  
>> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 12:08:44 PM EST, Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> With 40 TR's potential starting the K cup race ... let do a reverse grid :-) slowest time on the pole !! 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2025, at 8:44?AM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>  
>>>  
>>> Mike, I run R888R's on my TR-4 too, I'm assuming they are not objectionable to this race group.
>>> 
>>> I think Henry answered the grid limit question (about 40 cars).
>>> 
>>> Regards, Tony Drews
>>> 
>>> On 1/24/2025 5:35 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:
>>>> Thanks Tony,  I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at Lime Rock?
>>>>  just curious.
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com <mailto:tony at tonydrews.com>> wrote:
>>>> It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.  My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.  Confirmed - looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:
>>>> 
>>>> "Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene. 
>>>> 
>>>> For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race! 
>>>> 
>>>> We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup."
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Tony Drews
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:
>>>>> Henry,
>>>>> When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?  Is this correct? 
>>>>> When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?  I was originally planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work Tuesday morning.
>>>>> Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>> Mike Deweerd
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>> Henry,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great video!   Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4
>>>>> 
>>>>> He does make it look too easy!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
>>>>> To: FOT
>>>>> Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
>>>>> not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
>>>>> about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
>>>>> of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
>>>>> of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
>>>>> list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
>>>>> it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
>>>>> the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!
>>>>> 
>>>>> One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
>>>>> share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
>>>>> Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
>>>>> Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
>>>>> driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
>>>>> us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
>>>>> could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
>>>>> time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
>>>>> easy!
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk
>>>>> 
>>>>> See you at the track!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Henry Frye
>>>>> 2025 and 2026 KCup chair
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
>>>>> 
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 24 19:40:41 2025
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 02:40:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!
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I dunno, didn?t Bob L already try the reverse grid at Road America? ?:-) :-)


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On Friday, January 24, 2025, 6:19 PM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Believe me, I know. I started from the back (had to fix the clutch) and had to pass everyone at least twice, sometimes three times. But I was mostly up against cars that were fast in a straight. Big fun though.?

On Jan 24, 2025, at 12:14?PM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


As entertaining as a reverse grid sounds, don't get your hopes up, it is not happening at Lime Rock this year. Sorry Tony!
?
Bob nailed it, passing opportunities are Lime Rock are few. Unless there is a real speed differential between two cars or the lead car gives you a clean pass, it just is not as easy as Bill Babcock remembers! Sorry Bill!

On 2025-01-24 13:50, Robert Lang via Fot wrote:

?Hi,?I won't say I know this for sure, but I'm pretty sure Skip wouldn't like this idea - no matter how fun it might be. If you haven't tried driving traffic at Lime Rock, I can tell you that it can be a nightmare. Anywhere you give up a corner to let a faster car pass, you loose between 1.5 and 4 seconds a lap. Even with a 20 minute feature, with our diverse run group your top 10 cars will be lapping the field 2 or maybe even three times.?I won't say that a reverse grid wouldn't be entertaining, but it could lead to some "dicey" moments.?Regards,Bob Lang?On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 12:08:44 PM EST, Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:??With 40 TR's potential starting the K cup race ... let do a reverse grid :-) slowest time on the pole !!?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2025, at 8:44?AM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


?
?
Mike, I run R888R's on my TR-4 too, I'm assuming they are not objectionable to this race group.

I think Henry answered the grid limit question (about 40 cars).

Regards, Tony Drews
On 1/24/2025 5:35 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:
Thanks Tony,? I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at Lime Rock??just curious.Cheers.?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:43?PM Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote:

It is a Friday / Saturday / Monday event with Sunday being a quiet day.? My recollection is that the Kastner Cup race is on Monday.? Confirmed - looking at older messages, Henry sent this out Jan 9th:

"Thursday late afternoon the track hosts a parade open to race cars, 17 miles of beautiful New England countryside ending in a street fair in Falls Village, a quaint little town a couple miles from the track. If driving your race car on the street is not your thing, it is well worth finding your way to Falls Village to take in the scene.?

For the most part, we will have an All-Triumph run group. If our numbers exceed a safe run group, we may be forced to put some cars in a more appropriate run group, that may apply to cars on both ends of the timing sheet. If your Triumph is prepped beyond vintage specs, your tire choice will play a big factor on where you run. But rest assured for the main event, all the Triumphs will together for the Kastner Cup race!?

We have a practice session on Friday morning, and we qualify on Friday afternoon. Both sessions on Saturday are races. Monday morning is our third race, then right after lunch on Monday we run for the Kastner Cup."

Regards, Tony Drews
On 1/23/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote:
Henry,When I look at the track website and the event schedule, it seems that Sunday has no racing but Monday does?? Is this correct??When is the Cup Race then if not on Sunday?? I was originally?planning on driving home on Monday (approx 7-8 hours) and return to work?Tuesday morning.Can you let me know so I can book the proper holidays off.?Thanks?Mike Deweerd?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
Henry,

Great video!? ?Peter also has posted a full race video for the same event.

https://youtu.be/cLAP--lMsng?si=EjlQ_RBu5dnxCWf4

He does make it look too easy!

Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 7:33 AM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] Get ready for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock!

Today being the first day of many that I woke up to an outside temp is 
not a negative number, I think this is a fine time to share some more 
about the Kastner Cup race coming this fall at Lime Rock Park!

Many people have been reaching out to me with questions and to inform me 
of their intention to run with us, so I put together a quick spreadsheet 
of those who have contacted me, and those that I presume are coming. My 
list at the moment is over 40 Triumphs and Triumph powered Specials, and 
it seems every week or so another racer reaches out and gets added to 
the list. I believe we are in for a real treat!

One of our guys asked me if I knew of any good in-car video I could 
share. I perused youTube and was delighted to see that none other than 
Peter Krause had posted a couple of laps from last year's Historic 
Festival in his Fiat X19. Peter is a very well-known professional 
driving coach out of Virginia, and for him to share this video showing 
us what it looks like to drive Lime Rock in a small-bore production car 
could not have come at a better time. I suggest anybody with no seat 
time at Lime Rock take a look, although I will say Peter makes it look 
easy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq09PWPpstk

See you at the track!

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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Jan 24 20:24:43 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:24:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Return from the dead
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Hey folks, it is me, your underworked and overpaid list admin.  Back at 
the computer.  Some of you know I was taken ill, and spent the last 
month away from the computer.  But back home now after a month of agony 
and weeks of rehab.  And only 13,600 new messages to wade through.  What 
fun!

mjb.

From vfracing at aol.com  Sat Jan 25 04:17:47 2025
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 06:17:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Return from the dead
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Welcome back, Mark! 
And thank you for keeping us together.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2025, at 10:45?PM, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sat Jan 25 05:10:34 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 07:10:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tires for the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock
Message-ID: <bd16d2297deef1c2d9fcac510f45c2da@tr4racer.com>

We are not going deep into the weeds on tires, thankfully! 

For racers that run Vintage, if you run a treaded tire that is approved
by your home club, we will accept it. Typically VRG would enforce a tire
size requirement, that is waived for this event for Triumphs only. You
want to run 50 series tires on a TR4? No problem. But it needs to be a
treaded race tire on the approved tire list from your Vintage club. 

If you run slicks, that's tires with no grooves, you will be running the
entire weekend except the KCup race in a different run group. We are
prepared to accept all Triumph race cars, but your tire choice will be a
big factor on what run group you get assigned to. 

If you are not sure where you are going to fall within this, please
reach out to me personally and we will figure this out together! 

Henry Frye
KCup Chair, 2025 and 2026 

On 2025-01-24 11:27, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:

> Mike, I run R888R's on my TR-4 too, I'm assuming they are not objectionable to this race group. 
> 
> I think Henry answered the grid limit question (about 40 cars). 
> 
> Regards, Tony Drews
> 
> On 1/24/2025 5:35 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote: 
> 
>> Thanks Tony,  I'm running toyo R888's on the TR4, what is the grid limit at Lime Rock? 
>> just curious. 
>> Cheers.
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sat Jan 25 05:27:46 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 07:27:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Car Count for the 2025 KCup
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I alluded to my spreadsheet detailing who is intending to run the Lime
Rock Kastner Cup, and I would like to firm this list up now. If you are
intending on racing with us in the Kastner Cup at Lime Rock over Labor
Day weekend, could you please respond to me OFF LIST so I can verify
your entry on the spreadsheet? Most appreciated! Those of you who have
emailed me about the race over the past month or so do not need to reply
again. I will share the list as soon as it seems to be fully populated. 


Nobody is getting turned away because we brought too many cars! If we
get too many runners, we will adapt and make it work.  

Also, expect registration to be open in a couple weeks. I urge everyone
to register as soon as possible, that will help everyone involved. 

Cheers.

Henry Frye
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yellow04 at tr4racer.com

On 2025-01-24 17:24, Robert Lang via Fot wrote:

> We shouldn't get ahead of ourselves here - near as I can tell, registration isn't open for the Vintage Festival yet. At this point, just letting Henry know you're going to be there is probably the best you can do. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Bob Lang 
> 
> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 03:01:31 PM EST, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
> 
> We understand there is a limit on the number of cars allowed on Track at Limerock. Has that limit for the Kastner already been reached? If there is still room we would register now. Since we would be coming from AZ we want to make sure such a long haul would not be in vain.  
> 
> Note, we will not be bringing the BajaTR3 as she is getting prepared to return to run the 60th Anniversary Mexican 1000 in 2027. Instead we will be bringing a TR4 that has been a Racecar since 1965. 
> 
> Sent from my Mobile Device there could be misspellings. 
> 
> Dave Riddle 
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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Sat Jan 25 06:21:46 2025
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 13:21:46 +0000
Subject: [Fot] K cup entry
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Tony Garmey
TR 3 Spl
Car # 9x
Hoosier speedsters 205 60-15

Thanks 
Sent from my iPhone

From kkjjk at aol.com  Sat Jan 25 07:07:00 2025
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 14:07:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Remembering John Hasty
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 Although I did not know John personally, he was a heck of a racer. He blew by me on the back straight at Pitt Race during the Kastner Cup a few years back, in his 80s. That has stuck with me!Rest in Peace, John...

    On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 10:12:28 AM EST, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   

 I just found out that a couple months back we lost our resident 
octogenarian, John Hasty. Those of us who race the eastern part of the 
States have probably met him at the track, piloting a yellow TR3. John 
was always great fun to chat with, his extensive background in 
motorcycle racing usually came up in some way or another. After "aging 
out" on two wheels he decided it would be a better idea to race on four 
wheels and was still on track with us last year at the age of 88 years 
young! At the spring race at VIR I see he was still right in the mix, 
finishing 12th out of 29 runners in the Saturday race.

Trying to remember when John arrived in the scene, I searched my 
archives. In 2011, Don Marshall nominated John and forwarded this 
introduction to the FOT.

"I've been into racing most anything that has a motor and wheels since 
the 40's when in high school building hot rods. Took off a few years 
while in college, but beginning in 1959 bought my first sports car, an 
Austin Healy 3000 w/o a jump seat, next a MGB, then a Porsche 912, then 
a Merc 280SL, now an Alfa Spider for the street and my TR3A for the 
track. Crewed for a friend in the 60's with a bug-eye sprite in SCCA 
events then got into motorcycles. I road motorcycle road-racers for 
about 10 years and when I retired from riding, built and tuned 250cc GP 
road-racers with a rider on the AMA pro circuit for about 7 years. We 
did pretty well, never finished worse than 5th. in overall standings and 
won the national
championship in 1990. My good friend Ceasar Cone got me back into sports 
car racing and when it came time to buy a car I decided that if I was 
going vintage racing I wanted a truly vintage car and I think the TR3A 
is a perfect truly vintage car."

Our kind of people, no doubt. You will be missed, my friend...

https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/33758028/john-henderson-hasty

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From michaelndeweerd at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 07:31:58 2025
From: michaelndeweerd at gmail.com (Michael Deweerd)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 09:31:58 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Return from the dead
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Glad you are better Welcome Back!!
Cheers


On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 6:24?AM Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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> Welcome back, Mark!
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From whitedog72 at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 25 08:18:11 2025
From: whitedog72 at hotmail.com (f s)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 15:18:11 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Return from the dead
In-Reply-To: <293d1888-d9c9-4712-9f9c-0f8ce2ef254e@bradakis.com>
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Glad you are feeling better.



Sent from my Galaxy



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From: Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: 1/24/25 9:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Return from the dead

Hey folks, it is me, your underworked and overpaid list admin.  Back at
the computer.  Some of you know I was taken ill, and spent the last
month away from the computer.  But back home now after a month of agony
and weeks of rehab.  And only 13,600 new messages to wade through.  What
fun!

mjb.
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From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 09:00:13 2025
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 10:00:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Return from the dead
In-Reply-To: <293d1888-d9c9-4712-9f9c-0f8ce2ef254e@bradakis.com>
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Glad to hear you are doing better.  Old age just sucks!?. 

Kg
Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 24, 2025, at 9:39?PM, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hey folks, it is me, your underworked and overpaid list admin.  Back at the computer.  Some of you know I was taken ill, and spent the last month away from the computer.  But back home now after a month of agony and weeks of rehab.  And only 13,600 new messages to wade through.  What fun!
> 
> mjb.
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> 
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sat Jan 25 12:09:26 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 13:09:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Return from the dead
In-Reply-To: <293d1888-d9c9-4712-9f9c-0f8ce2ef254e@bradakis.com>
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Glad you are back!? I saw a few facebook posts from you that had me worried.

Regards, Tony

On 1/24/2025 9:24 PM, Mark Bradakis via Fot wrote:
> Hey folks, it is me, your underworked and overpaid list admin.? Back 
> at the computer.? Some of you know I was taken ill, and spent the last 
> month away from the computer.? But back home now after a month of 
> agony and weeks of rehab.? And only 13,600 new messages to wade 
> through.? What fun!
>
> mjb.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From 4msonset at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 12:20:19 2025
From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 11:20:19 -0800
Subject: [Fot] 1966 Triumph TR4  Project Give Away
Message-ID: <1AE804F1-4741-41D9-9F3B-4194C40B1674@gmail.com>


My brother spotted this on Offer Up?.  I have no skin in the game or intel about its authenticity, etc?. Just sharing?  ?Justin 

Check out this item on OfferUp. https://offerup.co/32M42gcVrQb

From 4msonset at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 12:25:44 2025
From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 11:25:44 -0800
Subject: [Fot] 1966 Triumph TR4  Project Give Away
In-Reply-To: <1AE804F1-4741-41D9-9F3B-4194C40B1674@gmail.com>
References: <1AE804F1-4741-41D9-9F3B-4194C40B1674@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA5CEFD-0BF0-4467-B0AF-7BD2B44A40B9@gmail.com>

oh , nevermind? It?s gone.   

> On Jan 25, 2025, at 11:20?AM, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> My brother spotted this on Offer Up?.  I have no skin in the game or intel about its authenticity, etc?. Just sharing?  ?Justin
> 
> Check out this item on OfferUp. https://offerup.co/32M42gcVrQb

From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed Jan 29 18:04:25 2025
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 19:04:25 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Sneak Peek. TR3.  Owned by Kas KASTNERS Chief Engineer
Message-ID: <AF8CBF2A-03E2-4ED1-8BC9-9DC4A10C69FC@gmail.com>

Coming Available For Sale:

Rust Free body was painted and then stored for 50 years. Kas asked me to find a buyer for it.  Now this owner is asking me to help him find a new home. Needs Final Assembly.

I am in the process of gathering pictures and a catalog of many spare parts that are available, too.

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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From moosehd2 at pacbell.net  Wed Jan 29 20:29:22 2025
From: moosehd2 at pacbell.net (Bert Brown)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 03:29:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Sneak Peek. TR3.  Owned by Kas KASTNERS Chief Engineer
In-Reply-To: <AF8CBF2A-03E2-4ED1-8BC9-9DC4A10C69FC@gmail.com>
References: <AF8CBF2A-03E2-4ED1-8BC9-9DC4A10C69FC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1451971398.5256603.1738207762997@mail.yahoo.com>

 That sounds like Doug Brown's old car!

Bert BrownDanville, CA
    On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 05:35:42 PM PST, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Coming Available For Sale:

Rust Free body was painted and then stored for 50 years. Kas asked me to find a buyer for it.? Now this owner is asking me to help him find a new home. Needs Final Assembly.

I am in the process of gathering pictures and a catalog of many spare parts that are available, too.




Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:? 319.464.4711

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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Jan 29 22:48:52 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 22:48:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Sneak Peek. TR3. Owned by Kas KASTNERS Chief Engineer
In-Reply-To: <AF8CBF2A-03E2-4ED1-8BC9-9DC4A10C69FC@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4fe9ba40-3e4d-44a0-80d1-d38ddd1a6b30@bradakis.com>

On 1/29/25 6:04 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote:
> Coming Available For Sale:
> 
> Rust Free body was painted and then stored for 50 years. Kas asked me to find a buyer for it.  Now this owner is asking me to help him find a new home. Needs Final Assembly.

Could be a fun project, but not for me.  I'm debating if I will ever 
turn another wrench on a Triumph. As cold and miserable outside as it 
is, not looking too favorable.  Maybe when it warms up I will feel 
differently.

mjb.