From alfetta95 at optonline.net Sun Feb 2 15:46:15 2025 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 17:46:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Car Count for the 2025 KCup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5FED291F-80A0-45F3-B365-5FD0E773A187@optonline.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lymanazhd at yahoo.com Mon Feb 3 15:06:13 2025 From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 15:06:13 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules References: <477FA318-FCF9-447A-BF00-D7D237764F10.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <477FA318-FCF9-447A-BF00-D7D237764F10@yahoo.com> What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? We need new fuel cell. Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. Rather buy a JAZ SCCA tank vs $800 ATL bladder. Lyman Scherer / Dave Riddle 1965 TR4A #65 Sent from my iPhone From sjanzen at me.com Mon Feb 3 15:55:27 2025 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 17:55:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules In-Reply-To: <477FA318-FCF9-447A-BF00-D7D237764F10@yahoo.com> References: <477FA318-FCF9-447A-BF00-D7D237764F10@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <66874853-AE71-4DC4-BDA3-B4C14A7007DC@me.com> Interesting question. VRG requires an FIA fuel cell for a car this age. VSCCA does not. Both are supporting the event. Perhaps Henry or Paul know the answer? You might want to think about where else you will race the car in the future and look at their rules. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:10?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: > > ?What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? > We need new fuel cell. > Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. Rather buy a JAZ SCCA tank vs $800 ATL bladder. > Lyman Scherer / Dave Riddle > 1965 TR4A #65 > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Mon Feb 3 16:13:17 2025 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 18:13:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules In-Reply-To: <477FA318-FCF9-447A-BF00-D7D237764F10@yahoo.com> References: <477FA318-FCF9-447A-BF00-D7D237764F10.ref@yahoo.com> <477FA318-FCF9-447A-BF00-D7D237764F10@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the answer is a hard no. Vintage Racer Group, the folks that handle tech for the Lime Rock Historics say this about fuel cells: 3.2.4.1. Fuel cells in a metal container are required. FIA FT3 specification cells, or equal, with either the certification printed, or FIA hologram bonded to their surface, are required. For fuel cells not contained within the body structure, the bottom of the fuel cell should have a minimum of 6? of ground clearance. The mounting must be strong enough to resist impact forces during an accident. JAZ talks a good game, saying they meet SFI spec 28.1, but that spec is a plastic box, no bladder. I asked the head of tech, someone who shows up with a JAZ cell gets to run one event, but your log book gets noted that you have a non-conforming fuel cell and it is a one-time exemption. I just went through this with my TR3, ended up buying a new ATL 108. On 2025-02-03 17:06, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: > What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? > We need new fuel cell. > Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. Rather buy a JAZ SCCA tank vs $800 > ATL bladder. > Lyman Scherer / Dave Riddle > 1965 TR4A #65 > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04 at tr4racer.com From lymanazhd at yahoo.com Mon Feb 3 16:16:53 2025 From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:16:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules In-Reply-To: <66874853-AE71-4DC4-BDA3-B4C14A7007DC@me.com> References: <66874853-AE71-4DC4-BDA3-B4C14A7007DC@me.com> Message-ID: Our NASA-AZ requires ?stock? steel tank, JAZ SCCA spec or ATL FIA certified bladder. Obviously stock is ?unsafe? to me, JAZ plastic ok, my ATL expensive with 3-5 year usability specification per rules. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2025, at 3:55?PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > > ?Interesting question. VRG requires an FIA fuel cell for a car this age. VSCCA does not. Both are supporting the event. Perhaps Henry or Paul know the answer? > You might want to think about where else you will race the car in the future and look at their rules. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:10?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: >> >> ?What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? >> We need new fuel cell. >> Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. Rather buy a JAZ SCCA tank vs $800 ATL bladder. >> Lyman Scherer / Dave Riddle >> 1965 TR4A #65 >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com >> >> From lymanazhd at yahoo.com Mon Feb 3 16:19:25 2025 From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:19:25 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <882F4C43-E21E-49B8-A200-C8D7D941F099@yahoo.com> So going with ATL bladder replacement. It?s only $$$, all my racers have ATL or Fuel Safe. Thx Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2025, at 4:16?PM, Lyman Scherer wrote: > > ?Our NASA-AZ requires ?stock? steel tank, JAZ SCCA spec or ATL FIA certified bladder. > Obviously stock is ?unsafe? to me, JAZ plastic ok, my ATL expensive with 3-5 year usability specification per rules. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 3, 2025, at 3:55?PM, Scott Janzen wrote: >> >> ?Interesting question. VRG requires an FIA fuel cell for a car this age. VSCCA does not. Both are supporting the event. Perhaps Henry or Paul know the answer? >> You might want to think about where else you will race the car in the future and look at their rules. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:10?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? >>> We need new fuel cell. >>> Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. Rather buy a JAZ SCCA tank vs $800 ATL bladder. >>> Lyman Scherer / Dave Riddle >>> 1965 TR4A #65 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com >>> >>> From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Mon Feb 3 16:20:14 2025 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 17:20:14 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules In-Reply-To: <66874853-AE71-4DC4-BDA3-B4C14A7007DC@me.com> References: <66874853-AE71-4DC4-BDA3-B4C14A7007DC@me.com> Message-ID: <3CB1A525-C69F-4D5E-8E22-6B0049004D4F@gmail.com> As a courtesy, typically we have received a one time waiver. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:15?PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?Interesting question. VRG requires an FIA fuel cell for a car this age. VSCCA does not. Both are supporting the event. Perhaps Henry or Paul know the answer? > You might want to think about where else you will race the car in the future and look at their rules. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:10?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: >> >> ?What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? >> We need new fuel cell. >> Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. Rather buy a JAZ SCCA tank vs $800 ATL bladder. >> Lyman Scherer / Dave Riddle >> 1965 TR4A #65 >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From lymanazhd at yahoo.com Mon Feb 3 16:55:35 2025 From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:55:35 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules In-Reply-To: <3CB1A525-C69F-4D5E-8E22-6B0049004D4F@gmail.com> References: <3CB1A525-C69F-4D5E-8E22-6B0049004D4F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Current fuel cell is decades old, new one is required, not an issue, just mo? money. Plan to run locally and next 3 Kastner Cups. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2025, at 4:20?PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > ?As a courtesy, typically we have received a one time waiver. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:15?PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Interesting question. VRG requires an FIA fuel cell for a car this age. VSCCA does not. Both are supporting the event. Perhaps Henry or Paul know the answer? >> You might want to think about where else you will race the car in the future and look at their rules. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:10?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? >>> We need new fuel cell. >>> Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. Rather buy a JAZ SCCA tank vs $800 ATL bladder. >>> Lyman Scherer / Dave Riddle >>> 1965 TR4A #65 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> From vfracing at aol.com Mon Feb 3 18:15:10 2025 From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 20:15:10 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules In-Reply-To: <882F4C43-E21E-49B8-A200-C8D7D941F099@yahoo.com> References: <882F4C43-E21E-49B8-A200-C8D7D941F099@yahoo.com> Message-ID: When you install it be sure to pay attention to the ?bulkhead? between you and the fuel cell, as well as where and what?s type of fuel lines you use. SCCA rules, which are adopted or accepted most anywhere we might run) require that no fuel may splash into the passenger compartment from the fuel cell. In other words, no holes. Fuel lines through the cockpit must be solid metal or a stainless braided hose. Or run the lines through some sort of metal conduit or other sort of metal bulkhead ?container.? Not that Champ Car requires the fuel lines run outside the passenger compartment no matter what kind of line is used. (I think but not certain Champ Car makes exceptions for OEM installations.) The fuel cell itself does not ?time out? per SCCA rules, but personal experience indicates there is a limit (a 30+ year old impregnated fabric fuel cell in my car was delaminated after being exhumed from the barn after 3 decades of rest. It would not have began legal anyway). Phil Gott (SCCA Nationally licensed Scrutineer) Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2025, at 7:43?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: > > ?So going with ATL bladder replacement. It?s only $$$, all my racers have ATL or Fuel Safe. Thx > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 3, 2025, at 4:16?PM, Lyman Scherer wrote: >> >> ?Our NASA-AZ requires ?stock? steel tank, JAZ SCCA spec or ATL FIA certified bladder. >> Obviously stock is ?unsafe? to me, JAZ plastic ok, my ATL expensive with 3-5 year usability specification per rules. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 3:55?PM, Scott Janzen wrote: >>> >>> ?Interesting question. VRG requires an FIA fuel cell for a car this age. VSCCA does not. Both are supporting the event. Perhaps Henry or Paul know the answer? >>> You might want to think about where else you will race the car in the future and look at their rules. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:10?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? >>>> We need new fuel cell. >>>> Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. Rather buy a JAZ SCCA tank vs $800 ATL bladder. >>>> Lyman Scherer / Dave Riddle >>>> 1965 TR4A #65 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com >>>> >>>> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > From lymanazhd at yahoo.com Mon Feb 3 19:20:00 2025 From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 19:20:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes on all points. We run solid lines with S.S. braided lines to fuel cell and carbs AN fittings. Solid line inside passenger rocker panel. Our local NASA events have 5yr certificate limit on bladder, then one 3yr. re-certification. Fuel cell enclosed in trunk. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2025, at 6:15?PM, Philip Gott wrote: > > ?When you install it be sure to pay attention to the ?bulkhead? between you and the fuel cell, as well as where and what?s type of fuel lines you use. > SCCA rules, which are adopted or accepted most anywhere we might run) require that no fuel may splash into the passenger compartment from the fuel cell. In other words, no holes. Fuel lines through the cockpit must be solid metal or a stainless braided hose. Or run the lines through some sort of metal conduit or other sort of metal bulkhead ?container.? Not that Champ Car requires the fuel lines run outside the passenger compartment no matter what kind of line is used. (I think but not certain Champ Car makes exceptions for OEM installations.) > The fuel cell itself does not ?time out? per SCCA rules, but personal experience indicates there is a limit (a 30+ year old impregnated fabric fuel cell in my car was delaminated after being exhumed from the barn after 3 decades of rest. It would not have began legal anyway). > Phil Gott > (SCCA Nationally licensed Scrutineer) > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 3, 2025, at 7:43?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: >> >> ?So going with ATL bladder replacement. It?s only $$$, all my racers have ATL or Fuel Safe. Thx >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 4:16?PM, Lyman Scherer wrote: >>> >>> ?Our NASA-AZ requires ?stock? steel tank, JAZ SCCA spec or ATL FIA certified bladder. >>> Obviously stock is ?unsafe? to me, JAZ plastic ok, my ATL expensive with 3-5 year usability specification per rules. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 3:55?PM, Scott Janzen wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Interesting question. VRG requires an FIA fuel cell for a car this age. VSCCA does not. Both are supporting the event. Perhaps Henry or Paul know the answer? >>>> You might want to think about where else you will race the car in the future and look at their rules. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:10?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? >>>>> We need new fuel cell. >>>>> Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. Rather buy a JAZ SCCA tank vs $800 ATL bladder. >>>>> Lyman Scherer / Dave Riddle >>>>> 1965 TR4A #65 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com >>>>> >>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > From fmccjr at aol.com Mon Feb 3 19:48:36 2025 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 02:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup sanctioning body rules In-Reply-To: <882F4C43-E21E-49B8-A200-C8D7D941F099@yahoo.com> References: <882F4C43-E21E-49B8-A200-C8D7D941F099@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1875441938.8115464.1738637316375@mail.yahoo.com> When I renovated my car 12 years ago,?I had to get a new tank (with a?new bladder, of course). Seems like ATL changed the 8 gallon tank?dimensions from the 1970s, so a whole new tank went?in the hole. In fact the whole?hole had to be altered.?But not a whole lot? You won?t regret it in the long run.?I can?t wait to see how it shines! Best of luck, Rick McCurdy Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, February 3, 2025, 7:56 PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: So going with ATL bladder replacement. It?s only $$$, all my racers have ATL or Fuel Safe. Thx Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2025, at 4:16?PM, Lyman Scherer wrote: > > ?Our NASA-AZ requires ?stock? steel tank, JAZ SCCA spec or ATL FIA certified bladder. > Obviously stock is ?unsafe? to me, JAZ plastic ok, my ATL expensive with 3-5 year usability specification per rules. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 3, 2025, at 3:55?PM, Scott Janzen wrote: >> >> ?Interesting question. VRG requires an FIA fuel cell for a car this age. VSCCA does not. Both are supporting the event. Perhaps Henry or Paul know the answer? >> You might want to think about where else you will race the car in the future and look at their rules. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 5:10?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?What race sanction organization rules are at Lime Rock ?25 K.Cup? >>> We need new fuel cell. >>> Have way expired ATL SP108 bladder. 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Depending on what data is in your MotorsportsReg profile, you may be asked for some medical information. When I registered I was not asked, but when a buddy registered he was asked about stuff like the date of his last tetanus shot. The event uses all of available paddock space, and for everyone to fit we get assigned paddock spaces. When registering you will be asked to provide some information so we can make sure you will have enough room. Have the size of your tow vehicle and trailer available, and your canopy information as well. If you are towing with a motorhome, we can accommodate motorhomes with trailers, and you will camp in the paddock next to your race car. The paddock is divided into two sections, Paddock A and Paddock B. You will be asked to choose your preference. The Triumphs will be paddocked in one big group in Paddock B, with a couple exceptions. Big haulers are typically set up in Paddock A, so if you use one of the big race teams to bring your car to the track, you will be under their canopy wherever they get assigned. Also, the event is co-sanctioned by the VSCCA, and there are a couple of Triumphs that are VSCCA regulars that may want to paddock with their folks, they are usually in Paddock A. Obviously we would like to put as many of the Triumph racer together as possible, but feel free to choose whatever paddock you want to! Speaking of the paddock, the track has no electric service available, come prepared with a quiet generator or make friends with your neighbor who runs one. The gas pumps are in Paddock B. Entrance to the false grid is adjacent to the area we will be set up in, very convenient. Paddock A and Paddock B are less than 200 yards apart, an easy flat walk. Paddock A is where the bigtop tents are set showing display cars, the bigger haulers, food concessions, and lots of cars competing over the event. Paddock A typically has more foot traffic than Paddock B. The track runs a shuttle service all weekend, large 6 person golf carts constantly circulating about. It makes for easy getting around. More details to follow, looking forward to seeing everybody come Labor Day! Cheers Henry Frye Kastner Cup committee 860.508.3118 mobile From lymanazhd at yahoo.com Thu Feb 6 14:11:24 2025 From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:11:24 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR4A aluminum radiator References: Message-ID: Our TR4A?s 40 year old aluminum race radiator is junk, too many tube leaks. Question: will the TR6 aluminum radiator be usable in the TR4? Sent from my iPhone From tomstrange5 at gmail.com Fri Feb 7 04:42:55 2025 From: tomstrange5 at gmail.com (tom strange) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 06:42:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Test Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2025, at 7:56?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote: > > ?Our TR4A?s 40 year old aluminum race radiator is junk, too many tube leaks. > Question: will the TR6 aluminum radiator be usable in the TR4? > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Feb 7 13:53:14 2025 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 20:53:14 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? Message-ID: Anybody have a favorite enclosed auto transport? I need to pick up a car in Missouri and bring it back here to Wisconsin. Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mecook at mindspring.com Fri Feb 7 15:40:34 2025 From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 17:40:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001701db79b1$4d36a240$e7a3e6c0$@mindspring.com> Scott, I have used four different carriers and not sure I actually have a favorite, but sharing my experience. Reliable was recommended to me by several that have used them in BMW circles. They are likely one of the best, but I found them expensive and slow - all depends on if they can transport a full load. Of course, it is all relative to the value of the car. Below are my experiences with all four carriers I have used, from/to locations as well. DC Auto Transport LLC - May 2024 from Buckley, WA to Apex, NC. DC owns their trucks. Car arrived safely, they were great to deal with, communication great as well, quick and very reasonable. DC Auto Transport LLC 3025 142nd Ave E Suite #102 Sumner, WA 98390 https://www.dcautos.org/contact-us/ (206) 339-1199 Vladislav Samburski dcauto.wa at gmail.com MONTWAY AUTO TRANSPORT - Nov 2023 from Spokane, WA to Apex, NC. Montway is a broker. Car arrived safely, communication not so great, relatively quick and more reasonabl cost wise than Reliable Montway Auto Transport 425 N Martingale Rd, Suite 550 Schaumburg, IL 60173 (833) 974-1216 https://www.montway.com/ Montway does not own their trucks, but is basically a broker / contractor. They shipped using OK Auto Carrier, Inc, which I understand is now "permanently closed" Reliable Auto Transport - Oct 2023 from Pontiac, MI to Apex, NC. Reliable owns their trucks. Car arrived safely, communication ok, relatively quick, but was primarily because this pick up was near their headquarters in Detroit and I had the car I purchased delivered to their terminal there. I was planning to use Reliable again for the second car above, but they used up their entire six week guarantee period, so I shifted to Montway, who picked up the next day. Reliable owns their trucks, so may be a little slower as they try to haul only a complete load. Reliable has five major terminals in Canton, MI; Los Angeles, CA; Chandler, AZ; Fairfield, NJ and Orlando, FL They are more expensive, but their trucks are in great shape and once on the road, very communicative. Reliable Carriers HQ 41555 Koppernick Rd. Canton, MI 48187 https://www.reliablecarriers.com/ Chips Transport Service Jun 2023 - from Middletown, RI to Apex, NC. Chips owns their trucks. Car arrived safely, communication was great, less expensive than Reliable in cost. Chips will haul both open and closed carriers. They may use small enclosed for one-off transports. Chips Transport 2 Summer St Foxboro, MA 02035 https://www.chipstransport.com/ (800)427-CHIP(2447) I had one "pick up" experience with a car I sold. The buyer used Montway to deliver it to Los Angeles, CA. Montway in this case brokered it to LS Express. In this case, the drivers were in a hurry, not real talkative etc. But, the car arrived in LA in great condition and on time. Anyhow, hope this helps. Mark From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott via Fot Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 3:53 PM To: FOT at autox.team.net FOT at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? Anybody have a favorite enclosed auto transport? I need to pick up a car in Missouri and bring it back here to Wisconsin. Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Feb 7 15:43:14 2025 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 22:43:14 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? In-Reply-To: <001701db79b1$4d36a240$e7a3e6c0$@mindspring.com> References: <001701db79b1$4d36a240$e7a3e6c0$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Wow, great stuff. Thanks! Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Mark Cook Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 4:40:34 PM To: Barr, Scott Cc: Friends of Triumph Group Email Subject: RE: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? Scott, I have used four different carriers and not sure I actually have a favorite, but sharing my experience. Reliable was recommended to me by several that have used them in BMW circles. They are likely one of the best, but I found them expensive and slow ? all depends on if they can transport a full load. Of course, it is all relative to the value of the car. Below are my experiences with all four carriers I have used, from/to locations as well. DC Auto Transport LLC ? May 2024 from Buckley, WA to Apex, NC. DC owns their trucks. Car arrived safely, they were great to deal with, communication great as well, quick and very reasonable. DC Auto Transport LLC 3025 142nd Ave E Suite #102 Sumner, WA 98390 https://www.dcautos.org/contact-us/ (206) 339-1199 Vladislav Samburski dcauto.wa at gmail.com MONTWAY AUTO TRANSPORT - Nov 2023 from Spokane, WA to Apex, NC. Montway is a broker. Car arrived safely, communication not so great, relatively quick and more reasonabl cost wise than Reliable Montway Auto Transport 425 N Martingale Rd, Suite 550 Schaumburg, IL 60173 (833) 974-1216 https://www.montway.com/ Montway does not own their trucks, but is basically a broker / contractor. They shipped using OK Auto Carrier, Inc, which I understand is now ?permanently closed? Reliable Auto Transport ? Oct 2023 from Pontiac, MI to Apex, NC. Reliable owns their trucks. Car arrived safely, communication ok, relatively quick, but was primarily because this pick up was near their headquarters in Detroit and I had the car I purchased delivered to their terminal there. I was planning to use Reliable again for the second car above, but they used up their entire six week guarantee period, so I shifted to Montway, who picked up the next day. Reliable owns their trucks, so may be a little slower as they try to haul only a complete load. Reliable has five major terminals in Canton, MI; Los Angeles, CA; Chandler, AZ; Fairfield, NJ and Orlando, FL They are more expensive, but their trucks are in great shape and once on the road, very communicative. Reliable Carriers HQ 41555 Koppernick Rd. Canton, MI 48187 https://www.reliablecarriers.com/ Chips Transport Service Jun 2023 ? from Middletown, RI to Apex, NC. Chips owns their trucks. Car arrived safely, communication was great, less expensive than Reliable in cost. Chips will haul both open and closed carriers. They may use small enclosed for one-off transports. Chips Transport 2 Summer St Foxboro, MA 02035 https://www.chipstransport.com/ (800)427-CHIP(2447) I had one ?pick up? experience with a car I sold. The buyer used Montway to deliver it to Los Angeles, CA. Montway in this case brokered it to LS Express. In this case, the drivers were in a hurry, not real talkative etc. But, the car arrived in LA in great condition and on time. Anyhow, hope this helps. Mark From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott via Fot Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 3:53 PM To: FOT at autox.team.net FOT at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? Anybody have a favorite enclosed auto transport? I need to pick up a car in Missouri and bring it back here to Wisconsin. Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks again Tom #59 Red GT6 On Fri, Feb 7, 2025, 7:12 AM vfracing at aol.com wrote: > Got it! > > On Friday, February 7, 2025 at 07:07:54 AM EST, tom strange via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri Feb 7 16:46:53 2025 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:46:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? In-Reply-To: <001701db79b1$4d36a240$e7a3e6c0$@mindspring.com> References: <001701db79b1$4d36a240$e7a3e6c0$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <8DDFA03E-2A59-4873-A88A-E8AF52A58DC2@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Feb 7 20:02:24 2025 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2025 03:02:24 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? In-Reply-To: <8DDFA03E-2A59-4873-A88A-E8AF52A58DC2@gmail.com> References: <001701db79b1$4d36a240$e7a3e6c0$@mindspring.com> <8DDFA03E-2A59-4873-A88A-E8AF52A58DC2@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's only a 7-hour tow, now that I think of it. I might just drive down there and pick it up myself. Why else do I have a pickup and a race trailer?? Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Terry Sopher Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 5:46:53 PM To: Mark Cook Cc: Barr, Scott ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? Reliable is good but expensive - concur! Passport is good but expensive. Horseless Carriage - Sux! Damaged car. Driver and my photos verified damage - 8 months, 10 emails & calls, finally went to CEO & was treated poorly & paid half of damage. Do not use! Plycar - Reasonable price, quick service. Best, Terry On Feb 7, 2025, at 17:45, Mark Cook via Fot wrote: ? Scott, I have used four different carriers and not sure I actually have a favorite, but sharing my experience. Reliable was recommended to me by several that have used them in BMW circles. They are likely one of the best, but I found them expensive and slow ? all depends on if they can transport a full load. Of course, it is all relative to the value of the car. Below are my experiences with all four carriers I have used, from/to locations as well. DC Auto Transport LLC ? May 2024 from Buckley, WA to Apex, NC. DC owns their trucks. Car arrived safely, they were great to deal with, communication great as well, quick and very reasonable. DC Auto Transport LLC 3025 142nd Ave E Suite #102 Sumner, WA 98390 https://www.dcautos.org/contact-us/ (206) 339-1199 Vladislav Samburski dcauto.wa at gmail.com MONTWAY AUTO TRANSPORT - Nov 2023 from Spokane, WA to Apex, NC. Montway is a broker. Car arrived safely, communication not so great, relatively quick and more reasonabl cost wise than Reliable Montway Auto Transport 425 N Martingale Rd, Suite 550 Schaumburg, IL 60173 (833) 974-1216 https://www.montway.com/ Montway does not own their trucks, but is basically a broker / contractor. They shipped using OK Auto Carrier, Inc, which I understand is now ?permanently closed? Reliable Auto Transport ? Oct 2023 from Pontiac, MI to Apex, NC. Reliable owns their trucks. Car arrived safely, communication ok, relatively quick, but was primarily because this pick up was near their headquarters in Detroit and I had the car I purchased delivered to their terminal there. I was planning to use Reliable again for the second car above, but they used up their entire six week guarantee period, so I shifted to Montway, who picked up the next day. Reliable owns their trucks, so may be a little slower as they try to haul only a complete load. Reliable has five major terminals in Canton, MI; Los Angeles, CA; Chandler, AZ; Fairfield, NJ and Orlando, FL They are more expensive, but their trucks are in great shape and once on the road, very communicative. Reliable Carriers HQ 41555 Koppernick Rd. Canton, MI 48187 https://www.reliablecarriers.com/ Chips Transport Service Jun 2023 ? from Middletown, RI to Apex, NC. Chips owns their trucks. Car arrived safely, communication was great, less expensive than Reliable in cost. Chips will haul both open and closed carriers. They may use small enclosed for one-off transports. Chips Transport 2 Summer St Foxboro, MA 02035 https://www.chipstransport.com/ (800)427-CHIP(2447) I had one ?pick up? experience with a car I sold. The buyer used Montway to deliver it to Los Angeles, CA. Montway in this case brokered it to LS Express. In this case, the drivers were in a hurry, not real talkative etc. But, the car arrived in LA in great condition and on time. Anyhow, hope this helps. Mark From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott via Fot Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 3:53 PM To: FOT at autox.team.net FOT at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? Anybody have a favorite enclosed auto transport? I need to pick up a car in Missouri and bring it back here to Wisconsin. Scott (B.) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 4msonset at gmail.com Fri Feb 7 20:04:01 2025 From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 19:04:01 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Enclosed Auto Transport? In-Reply-To: <8DDFA03E-2A59-4873-A88A-E8AF52A58DC2@gmail.com> References: <8DDFA03E-2A59-4873-A88A-E8AF52A58DC2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48A8E01D-D978-4476-8F49-F7622C6E6E5B@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Sun Feb 9 17:21:17 2025 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 18:21:17 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3 accelerator shaft bushings Message-ID: <4DD5E523-38AB-48B2-87A8-B274F17296E7@icloud.com> Anyone have a source for these? Moss lists as NLA Moss number 330-560 Sent from my iPhone From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Sun Feb 9 20:25:38 2025 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:25:38 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3 accelerator shaft bushings Message-ID: <48294.1739157938@mitchelplumbing.com> Might this work https://bpnorthwest.com/triumph/ accelerator-shaft-bushing-kit- heavy-duty-tr250-tr6/ Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 On Sun 09/02/25 4:21 PM , Greg Blake via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent: > Anyone have a source for these? 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URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Feb 13 09:40:08 2025 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 11:40:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Skip Barber announcement - Historic Festival 43 Registration Open! In-Reply-To: References: <1142095109718.1129792532533.1887915118.0.361730JL.2002@synd.ccsend.com> Message-ID: The track has officially announced that registration is open for the Lime Rock Historic Festival 43, the host of the 2025 Kastner Cup! I had a conversation with Paul King, our man on the inside, who told me as of a couple days ago we had 22 Triumphs registered, that is half the people on my list who reached out to me to say they intend on running! We are off to a great start!!! Keep those entries coming! Fun fact, during that call with Paul he told me Triumphs accounted for 22 of the 23 entries to date! Henry Frye KCup chair, 2025 and 2026 860.508.3118 (mobile) A Note From Sk February 12, 2025 Dear Competitor, Labor Day weekend starts with the Thursday evening parade to Falls Village, followed by a street fair. 18 miles long, open to competitor cars and pre-1975 sports cars. Parade registration can be found in your race entry form. The racing groups and classes follow. Triumph is the featured marque with an all-Triumph group, the Kastner Cup. We will run Triumphs that are "too slow" or "too fast" in more appropriate groups. Practice and qualifying on Friday; the competitors dinner Friday evening with David Hobbs featured (he raced a Triumph Spitfire 3 times at LeMans); 2 races for all entries Saturday; the Sunday Concours and Gathering of the Marques; and again 2 races for all entrants on Monday _The following 9 groups are planned for Historic Festival 43. _ _Groups/Classes are subject to being combined/changed once we can evaluate the entries. When registering in MSR, if you are unsure which Group your car should be in, please select "Need Classing" and your entry will be assigned to the appropriate Group._ _ _ ? Mid Century GT / Sportscars Under 2 Litre (Slower VSCCA/ Production Cars) ? Jim Haynes Memorial for Formula Juniors ? War-Era: Pre-War and slower Post-War Cars ? Toyo Tire Historic World Challenge Cars (Toyo Spec Tires Required) ? Triumph Feature: Kastner Cup ? Tin Tops / IMSA RS / Under 2.5 Litre Cars ? Big Bore / Air Cooled Porsches (Period-Correct Slicks Allowed) ? Wings / Slicks & Formula Fords ? GT/ Sportscars Over 2 Litre / Sports Racing Cars We will change the order if necessary to accommodate drivers running more than one car, but barring a big swing in entry, we hope to keep the preceding groups and run order. Ragtime Racers will be joining us for the first time. Authentic pre-1920's Indy Cars parading during the lunch break Friday, Saturday and Monday. This is a great show with period costumes, a great "garage" tent and again, real cars. Tony Parella tells me they've run at three of his events and are the most popular part of those weekends with event fans. Ragtime Racers should email Brian Blain at brianblain at blainfarms.com or call (559) 730-3471 for entry information. Registration is now open on MSR. ? Entries received before August 1 - $850 ? Deadline for Entry, August 1 ? Entries received after the August 1 deadline, late entry fee $950 ? Deadline for cancellation with refund, August 16 ? Register for HF43 Here [1] ? ? Lime Rock Park | 860.435.5000 | limerock.com [2] Shop The Lime Rock Park Store | limerockgear.com [3] View as Webpage [4] Connect with us @limerockpark [5] [6] [7] [8] ? 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URL: From mecook at mindspring.com Thu Feb 13 15:56:41 2025 From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 17:56:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Skip Barber announcement - Historic Festival 43 Registration Open! In-Reply-To: References: <1142095109718.1129792532533.1887915118.0.361730JL.2002@synd.ccsend.com> Message-ID: <005901db7e6a$8c61bb90$a52532b0$@mindspring.com> Henry, Great. Thanks for the update! For anyone checking, Motorsport.reg shows no entries yet, but this seems consistent with 2024?s HF42. The 2024 registration site only shows about 7 total entries, whereas MyLaps SpeedHive shows over 183 registrants running across all nine groups? practice sessions. Thanks, Mark Cook From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 11:40 AM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Skip Barber announcement - Historic Festival 43 Registration Open! The track has officially announced that registration is open for the Lime Rock Historic Festival 43, the host of the 2025 Kastner Cup! I had a conversation with Paul King, our man on the inside, who told me as of a couple days ago we had 22 Triumphs registered, that is half the people on my list who reached out to me to say they intend on running! We are off to a great start!!! Keep those entries coming! Fun fact, during that call with Paul he told me Triumphs accounted for 22 of the 23 entries to date! Henry Frye KCup chair, 2025 and 2026 860.508.3118 (mobile) A Note From Sk February 12, 2025 Dear Competitor, Labor Day weekend starts with the Thursday evening parade to Falls Village, followed by a street fair. 18 miles long, open to competitor cars and pre-1975 sports cars. Parade registration can be found in your race entry form. The racing groups and classes follow. Triumph is the featured marque with an all-Triumph group, the Kastner Cup. We will run Triumphs that are "too slow" or "too fast" in more appropriate groups. Practice and qualifying on Friday; the competitors dinner Friday evening with David Hobbs featured (he raced a Triumph Spitfire 3 times at LeMans); 2 races for all entries Saturday; the Sunday Concours and Gathering of the Marques; and again 2 races for all entrants on Monday The following 9 groups are planned for Historic Festival 43. Groups/Classes are subject to being combined/changed once we can evaluate the entries. When registering in MSR, if you are unsure which Group your car should be in, please select "Need Classing" and your entry will be assigned to the appropriate Group. ? Mid Century GT / Sportscars Under 2 Litre (Slower VSCCA/ Production Cars) ? Jim Haynes Memorial for Formula Juniors ? War-Era: Pre-War and slower Post-War Cars ? Toyo Tire Historic World Challenge Cars (Toyo Spec Tires Required) ? Triumph Feature: Kastner Cup ? Tin Tops / IMSA RS / Under 2.5 Litre Cars ? Big Bore / Air Cooled Porsches (Period-Correct Slicks Allowed) ? Wings / Slicks & Formula Fords ? GT/ Sportscars Over 2 Litre / Sports Racing Cars We will change the order if necessary to accommodate drivers running more than one car, but barring a big swing in entry, we hope to keep the preceding groups and run order. Ragtime Racers will be joining us for the first time. Authentic pre-1920's Indy Cars parading during the lunch break Friday, Saturday and Monday. This is a great show with period costumes, a great "garage" tent and again, real cars. Tony Parella tells me they've run at three of his events and are the most popular part of those weekends with event fans. Ragtime Racers should email Brian Blain at brianblain at blainfarms.com or call (559) 730-3471 for entry information. Registration is now open on MSR. ? Entries received before August 1 - $850 ? Deadline for Entry, August 1 ? Entries received after the August 1 deadline, late entry fee $950 ? Deadline for cancellation with refund, August 16 ? Register for HF43 Here ? ? Lime Rock Park | 860.435.5000 | limerock.com Shop The Lime Rock Park Store | limerockgear.com View as Webpage Connect with us @limerockpark Facebook Twitter Instagram Youtube ? Lime Rock Park | 60 White Hollow Road | Lakeville, CT 06039 US Unsubscribe | Update Profile | Our Privacy Policy | Constant Contact Data Notice -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 46098 bytes Desc: not available URL: From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Feb 14 18:21:47 2025 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 01:21:47 +0000 Subject: [Fot] PVGP Triumph/MG Challenge Message-ID: Registration for the Pittsburg Vintage Gran Prix at Pittrace is now open. Be sure to check the box for the Triumph/MG challenge when you register. It looks like we will get eight total track sessions throughout the weekend with one Saturday and one Sunday being Triumph/MG only races. If we get a big enough turnout PVGP is interested in this being a recurring event added to the schedule. We have reserved most of the South Paddock reserved electric RV spots for Triumphs. I think there are a couple still available. Let me know if you want one. This should be a hoot. Marty Sukey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dos_gusanos at msn.com Sun Feb 16 21:10:32 2025 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 04:10:32 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Vintage race map update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I WISH there was a vintage race at the Utah Motorsports campus..................(but there 'aint) Henry Morrison ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of David Cutter via Fot Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2025 10:27 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Vintage race map update Added NOLA Motorsports Park as CVAR is racing there this weekend. If there are any other new tracks with vintage races out there, let me know. Cheers, Dave and Shelby https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1vwMVKme7CP38Lw-1MOhdHtvpBMTSCdL-&usp=sharing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also am looking for a recommendation for a shop somewhere around my neck of the woods that can bore a six cylinder cam line. South or central Wisconsin is home for me. Thanks. P.J. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mecook at mindspring.com Tue Feb 18 22:02:09 2025 From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 00:02:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Engine machining In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a601db828b$6ed46580$4c7d3080$@mindspring.com> P.J. I have a torque plate for a TR6. If it will work for a GT6, would be happy to lend to you. If anyone can confirm it would work with a GT6, would be great. Thanks, Mark Cook From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Erik Jacobsen via Fot Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 10:01 PM To: McKearn McKearn; FOT list Subject: Re: [Fot] Engine machining No help for the torque plate. I've used Manitowoc Motor Machining previously and they did okay. Good quality but very slow. They have a new owner that seems to be better. I currently have JAMR doing my bugeye engine machine work. Jerry is the owners name. 815 633 3336 Loves Park IL Jake Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android _____ From: Fot on behalf of McKearn McKearn via Fot Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 8:26:12 PM To: FOT list Subject: [Fot] Engine machining Hi friends. I am wondering if anyone has a torque plate I could borrow to get a GT6 block bored. Also am looking for a recommendation for a shop somewhere around my neck of the woods that can bore a six cylinder cam line. South or central Wisconsin is home for me. Thanks. P.J. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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