From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sat Mar  2 04:47:33 2024
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2024 06:47:33 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup - SVRA will allow exemptions for Fire System
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Please don't cancel your plans to run the Kastner Cup at Sonoma because 
of the recent thread regarding fire suppression systems! I wanted to get 
this out there as soon as possible, as you can see by the email below we 
have reached out to SVRA and gotten a very favorable response. I am 
setting up a phone call with Matt Rose later today to work out the 
details.

I am confident the outcome will be if a racer does not run with SVRA on 
a regular basis, they will issue a tech sticker with a notation in your 
logbook giving you a one-time exemption. If you regularly attend SVRA 
events, you will undoubtedly be required to install a fire system that 
complies sooner rather than later.

Has anybody planning on running the KCup in Sonoma already run an SVRA 
event and claimed their one-time exemption for the fire suppression 
system but still not complied? If so, it would be helpful to know who 
you are before my chat with Matt. Please email me your details off-list 
so we can get in front of this. If nobody falls into this category I 
expect my conversation with Matt will go pretty smoothly!

More details as they become available, but the bottom line is don't let 
your lack of a complying fire system discourage you from running!

Henry Frye
KCup committee member

 From: Matt Rose <mattr at svra.com>
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 10:50 PM
To: Henry Frye
Subject: Re: Sonoma - Triumphs running the Kastner Cup

HI Henry,

I have spoken with Rob and this is not set in stone. May I call you 
tomorrow to discuss?

The short answer is I can work with your drivers to accept the cars with 
hand held fire suppression for this event.

Cheers

From kknight at klaenv.com  Sat Mar  2 08:08:02 2024
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 07:08:02 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup - SVRA will allow exemptions for Fire System
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An additional FYI.  I contacted SVRA and we will be allowed into the track on Wed. before the event if you are taking advantage of the Thur. test and practice day.  This is at Sonoma and Laguna Seca if you are staying for the second set of races.  Ken

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From: yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 6:54 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup - SVRA will allow exemptions for Fire System

Please don't cancel your plans to run the Kastner Cup at Sonoma because 
of the recent thread regarding fire suppression systems! I wanted to get 
this out there as soon as possible, as you can see by the email below we 
have reached out to SVRA and gotten a very favorable response. I am 
setting up a phone call with Matt Rose later today to work out the 
details.

I am confident the outcome will be if a racer does not run with SVRA on 
a regular basis, they will issue a tech sticker with a notation in your 
logbook giving you a one-time exemption. If you regularly attend SVRA 
events, you will undoubtedly be required to install a fire system that 
complies sooner rather than later.

Has anybody planning on running the KCup in Sonoma already run an SVRA 
event and claimed their one-time exemption for the fire suppression 
system but still not complied? If so, it would be helpful to know who 
you are before my chat with Matt. Please email me your details off-list 
so we can get in front of this. If nobody falls into this category I 
expect my conversation with Matt will go pretty smoothly!

More details as they become available, but the bottom line is don't let 
your lack of a complying fire system discourage you from running!

Henry Frye
KCup committee member

 From: Matt Rose <mattr at svra.com>
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 10:50 PM
To: Henry Frye
Subject: Re: Sonoma - Triumphs running the Kastner Cup

HI Henry,

I have spoken with Rob and this is not set in stone. May I call you 
tomorrow to discuss?

The short answer is I can work with your drivers to accept the cars with 
hand held fire suppression for this event.

Cheers
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sat Mar  2 09:04:43 2024
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 11:04:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] *****SPAM***** Re: Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Sat Mar  2 10:46:16 2024
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 17:46:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup - SVRA will allow exemptions for Fire System
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So i purchased two fire systems?. Think Ill return!


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On Saturday, March 2, 2024, 9:30 AM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

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An additional FYI.? I contacted SVRA and we will be allowed into the track on Wed. before the event if you are taking advantage of the Thur. test and practice day.? This is at Sonoma and Laguna Seca if you are staying for the second set of races.? Ken

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From: yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 6:54 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup - SVRA will allow exemptions for Fire System

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Please don't cancel your plans to run the Kastner Cup at Sonoma because 

of the recent thread regarding fire suppression systems! I wanted to get 

this out there as soon as possible, as you can see by the email below we 

have reached out to SVRA and gotten a very favorable response. I am 

setting up a phone call with Matt Rose later today to work out the 

details.

 ?

I am confident the outcome will be if a racer does not run with SVRA on 

a regular basis, they will issue a tech sticker with a notation in your 

logbook giving you a one-time exemption. If you regularly attend SVRA 

events, you will undoubtedly be required to install a fire system that 

complies sooner rather than later.

 ?

Has anybody planning on running the KCup in Sonoma already run an SVRA 

event and claimed their one-time exemption for the fire suppression 

system but still not complied? If so, it would be helpful to know who 

you are before my chat with Matt. Please email me your details off-list 

so we can get in front of this. If nobody falls into this category I 

expect my conversation with Matt will go pretty smoothly!

 ?

More details as they become available, but the bottom line is don't let 

your lack of a complying fire system discourage you from running!

 ?

Henry Frye

KCup committee member

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 From: Matt Rose <mattr at svra.com>

Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 10:50 PM

To: Henry Frye

Subject: Re: Sonoma - Triumphs running the Kastner Cup

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HI Henry,

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I have spoken with Rob and this is not set in stone. May I call you 

tomorrow to discuss?

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The short answer is I can work with your drivers to accept the cars with 

hand held fire suppression for this event.

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Cheers

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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sat Mar  2 17:49:54 2024
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2024 19:49:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup - SVRA will allow exemptions for Fire System
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I had a nice chat with Matt Rose this afternoon, Matt is the Chief 
Steward - West for SVRA. He could not have been more accommodating. I 
was assured that any Triumph that comes to Sonoma with a non-conforming 
fire suppression system will be able to run. He talked to Rob Elson, 
Technical Director for SVRA, and they agreed, we will not have an issue 
with the new fire suppression rules. Matt gave us his cell phone number, 
if anybody has a problem with tech, he wants to know so he can make it 
right. Bottom line, bring a safe car prepared to your home club rules 
and let's put on a great show!

He told me one of his first events as Chief Steward was our Portland 
KCup in 2021, he really enjoyed having us there, and he is looking 
forward to us coming back to one of his events. He went on to say he 
will be Chief Steward for both Sonoma and Laguna Seca, apologized again 
for the last-minute date change for Laguna Seca, (out of their control) 
and said if we have any racers want to run both there is secure storage 
at Sonoma for race rigs, and again, don't worry about fire suppression 
rules for Laguna Seca either.

Our registration numbers could use a boost, guys. If you are planning on 
running, please do so soon!

Henry Frye
KCup Committee

On Saturday, March 2, 2024, 9:30 AM, Ken Knight via Fot 
<fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

An additional FYI.  I contacted SVRA and we will be allowed into the 
track on Wed. before the event if you are taking advantage of the Thur. 
test and practice day.  This is at Sonoma and Laguna Seca if you are 
staying for the second set of races.  Ken

Sent from Mail for Windows

 From: yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 6:54 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup - SVRA will allow exemptions for Fire System

Please don't cancel your plans to run the Kastner Cup at Sonoma because

of the recent thread regarding fire suppression systems! I wanted to get

this out there as soon as possible, as you can see by the email below we

have reached out to SVRA and gotten a very favorable response. I am

setting up a phone call with Matt Rose later today to work out the

details.

I am confident the outcome will be if a racer does not run with SVRA on

a regular basis, they will issue a tech sticker with a notation in your

logbook giving you a one-time exemption. If you regularly attend SVRA

events, you will undoubtedly be required to install a fire system that

complies sooner rather than later.

Has anybody planning on running the KCup in Sonoma already run an SVRA

event and claimed their one-time exemption for the fire suppression

system but still not complied? If so, it would be helpful to know who

you are before my chat with Matt. Please email me your details off-list

so we can get in front of this. If nobody falls into this category I

expect my conversation with Matt will go pretty smoothly!

More details as they become available, but the bottom line is don't let

your lack of a complying fire system discourage you from running!

Henry Frye

KCup committee member

 From: Matt Rose <mattr at svra.com>

Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 10:50 PM

To: Henry Frye

Subject: Re: Sonoma - Triumphs running the Kastner Cup

HI Henry,

I have spoken with Rob and this is not set in stone. May I call you

tomorrow to discuss?

The short answer is I can work with your drivers to accept the cars with

hand held fire suppression for this event.

Cheers

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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Sun Mar  3 13:24:14 2024
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2024 14:24:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
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A M I C I
This is a question that I have for those who race a TR6, TR250, or TR4A. Are you running a limited slip differential? 
Seems to me I remember a Black 4A at the Heartland Park cup that did not because it was sufficiently lowered and sprung.
I?m contemplating taking the locker out of my TVR to make it nicer on the street.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Dennis 
Sent from my iPhone

From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sun Mar  3 18:04:52 2024
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2024 19:04:52 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
Message-ID: <64641.1709514292@mitchelplumbing.com>


I have always run (almost always) a LSD diff in my TR6.  I've run a Quaife (which I wasn't happy with) and a Trans-X with several different ratios.  I have no experience with a Locker, 
but I'd imagine it would make it a beast.
I think the Quaife would be good for a street car, I was able to spin the inside tire at lower speeds while corneing with it.
When I wasn't running a LSD, I was able to spin a tire quite often.
Charly Mitchel 
TR6 #44

On Sun 03/03/24 12:24 PM , DENNIS DELAP via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent:
> A M I C I
> This is a question that I have for those who race a TR6, TR250, or TR4A.
> Are you running a limited slip differential? Seems to me I remember a Black 4A at the Heartland Park cup that did not
> because it was sufficiently lowered and sprung.I?m contemplating taking the locker out of my TVR to make it nicer on
> the street.Thanks in advance for your comments.
> Dennis 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Mar  4 00:31:55 2024
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 08:31:55 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
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Consider the Bastuck LSD.
It is quite rugged. I run it for 13 years in my TR4 without any fail or problem.
Also the price tag is good.

Cheers
Chris

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension


I have always run (almost always) a LSD diff in my TR6.  I've run a Quaife (which I wasn't happy with) and a Trans-X with several different ratios.  I have no experience with a Locker, but I'd imagine it would make it a beast.
I think the Quaife would be good for a street car, I was able to spin the inside tire at lower speeds while corneing with it.
When I wasn't running a LSD, I was able to spin a tire quite often.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

On Sun 03/03/24 12:24 PM , DENNIS DELAP via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent:
> A M I C I
> This is a question that I have for those who race a TR6, TR250, or TR4A.
> Are you running a limited slip differential? Seems to me I remember a 
> Black 4A at the Heartland Park cup that did not because it was 
> sufficiently lowered and sprung.I?m contemplating taking the locker out of my TVR to make it nicer on the street.Thanks in advance for your comments.
> Dennis
> Sent from my iPhone
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Mon Mar  4 11:32:47 2024
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (JAMES GRAY)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 11:32:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
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That black 4A was owned by Dan Forgey and is now owned by Mark Eden.
I have an IRS chassis on my '64 and use a quaife and running LOTS of torque and never break an inside wheel loose but in Colorado we can run the Hoosier R7/SM7 DORT slicks. That has to be factored in.
That said, an IRS rear end will almost always grip better than a live axle with or without a LSD.
Overly stiff rear sway bars is usually the culprit. I run 3/4" on mine. A locker has always been out of the question for me.

Jim G # 102


> On 03/03/2024 6:04 PM MST Charly via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> I have always run (almost always) a LSD diff in my TR6.  I've run a Quaife (which I wasn't happy with) and a Trans-X with several different ratios.  I have no experience with a Locker, 
> but I'd imagine it would make it a beast.
> I think the Quaife would be good for a street car, I was able to spin the inside tire at lower speeds while corneing with it.
> When I wasn't running a LSD, I was able to spin a tire quite often.
> Charly Mitchel 
> TR6 #44
> 
> On Sun 03/03/24 12:24 PM , DENNIS DELAP via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent:
> > A M I C I
> > This is a question that I have for those who race a TR6, TR250, or TR4A.
> > Are you running a limited slip differential? Seems to me I remember a Black 4A at the Heartland Park cup that did not
> > because it was sufficiently lowered and sprung.I?m contemplating taking the locker out of my TVR to make it nicer on
> > the street.Thanks in advance for your comments.
> > Dennis 
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From cofrog at q.com  Mon Mar  4 13:55:45 2024
From: cofrog at q.com (Dan Forgey)
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2024 12:55:45 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
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On Mon, 4 Mar, 2024 at 12:40 PM, JAMES GRAY via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

To: charly; charly via fot

That black 4A was owned by Dan Forgey and is now owned by Mark Eden.
I have an IRS chassis on my '64 and use a quaife and running LOTS of torque and never break an inside wheel loose but in Colorado we can run the Hoosier R7/SM7 DORT slicks. That has to be factored in.
That said, an IRS rear end will almost always grip better than a live axle with or without a LSD.
Overly stiff rear sway bars is usually the culprit. I run 3/4" on mine. A locker has always been out of the question for me.

Jim G # 102


> On 03/03/2024 6:04 PM MST Charly via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
>  
> I have always run (almost always) a LSD diff in my TR6.  I've run a Quaife (which I wasn't happy with) and a Trans-X with several different ratios.  I have no experience with a Locker, 
> but I'd imagine it would make it a beast.
> I think the Quaife would be good for a street car, I was able to spin the inside tire at lower speeds while corneing with it.
> When I wasn't running a LSD, I was able to spin a tire quite often.
> Charly Mitchel 
> TR6 #44
> 
> On Sun 03/03/24 12:24 PM , DENNIS DELAP via Fot fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net> sent:
> > A M I C I
> > This is a question that I have for those who race a TR6, TR250, or TR4A.
> > Are you running a limited slip differential? Seems to me I remember a Black 4A at the Heartland Park cup that did not
> > because it was sufficiently lowered and sprung.I?m contemplating taking the locker out of my TVR to make it nicer on
> > the street.Thanks in advance for your comments.
> > Dennis 
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From cofrog at q.com  Mon Mar  4 13:59:43 2024
From: cofrog at q.com (Dan Forgey)
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2024 12:59:43 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
Message-ID: <LBXN6CK6GMU4.9QVU33QI3NC03@luweb02oc>

Yea that was me.  When I revamp the suspension on it it would lift the rear wheel in very tight corners.  Softened the rear sway one adjustment and all was well.


On Mon, 4 Mar, 2024 at 12:40 PM, JAMES GRAY via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

To: charly; charly via fot

That black 4A was owned by Dan Forgey and is now owned by Mark Eden.
I have an IRS chassis on my '64 and use a quaife and running LOTS of torque and never break an inside wheel loose but in Colorado we can run the Hoosier R7/SM7 DORT slicks. That has to be factored in.
That said, an IRS rear end will almost always grip better than a live axle with or without a LSD.
Overly stiff rear sway bars is usually the culprit. I run 3/4" on mine. A locker has always been out of the question for me.

Jim G # 102


> On 03/03/2024 6:04 PM MST Charly via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
>  
> I have always run (almost always) a LSD diff in my TR6.  I've run a Quaife (which I wasn't happy with) and a Trans-X with several different ratios.  I have no experience with a Locker, 
> but I'd imagine it would make it a beast.
> I think the Quaife would be good for a street car, I was able to spin the inside tire at lower speeds while corneing with it.
> When I wasn't running a LSD, I was able to spin a tire quite often.
> Charly Mitchel 
> TR6 #44
> 
> On Sun 03/03/24 12:24 PM , DENNIS DELAP via Fot fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net> sent:
> > A M I C I
> > This is a question that I have for those who race a TR6, TR250, or TR4A.
> > Are you running a limited slip differential? Seems to me I remember a Black 4A at the Heartland Park cup that did not
> > because it was sufficiently lowered and sprung.I?m contemplating taking the locker out of my TVR to make it nicer on
> > the street.Thanks in advance for your comments.
> > Dennis 
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Mar  4 22:09:38 2024
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 22:09:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue Mar  5 04:56:24 2024
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 06:56:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
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From solarant at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  5 05:07:24 2024
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 12:07:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
In-Reply-To: <BD2D8BA1-E467-4B10-AE68-4B069980018B@multivintage.com>
References: <LBXN6CK6GMU4.9QVU33QI3NC03@luweb02oc>
 <BD2D8BA1-E467-4B10-AE68-4B069980018B@multivintage.com>
Message-ID: <SN7PR19MB7501B84C4E87C7ED45432D31D7222@SN7PR19MB7501.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Nice message.

Thank you.


Anthony Parker, Mechanical Engineer
________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jason Ostrowski via Fot <FOT at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2024 3:45 AM
To: Dan Forgey
Cc: FOT at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension

Ah, The Kastner Cup at Heartland Park.
One of my favorite racing weekends of all time, a real treat.
My first Kastner Cup.
I barely made it to the track. I had stayed up for days straight trying to get my car ready. Upon arrival I was greeted with the warmth and friendship of several the Great Triumph hero?s I had, until then, only read about in the funny pages.
My car broke in the first session.
A spectator, a GT6 guy named Brad brought me a moss covered barn find transmission that we installed under the Kansas moonlight.
The next day I was racing again.
I have this distinct memory of Sam Halkias screaming up behind me in the Catawamba Marina TR6. Looking back through my wink mirror he waved, paused and signaled to me with facial expressions and hand signals that only us auto racers could understand saying ?nice job little buddy, here I come; I?m now going to fly by you on your left side?.
We partied, raced, bought an Ambro body and finished our first Kastner Cup there in Heartland Park.
When I got home, there it was, a long and personal email from Kas Kastner?praising me, my dedication, the sound of my car, my driving style, and lap by lap list of how many tenths of second I was improving each lap in a segment of the track where he was taking ?splits?.
I couldn?t believe it.
It was the start of what Kas called our ?unique kinship?
He sure had a nice way of motivating people.
Godspeed old pals.

Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars


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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  5 06:35:15 2024
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer Gmail)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 07:35:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Tue Mar  5 06:38:27 2024
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 06:38:27 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension
In-Reply-To: <BD2D8BA1-E467-4B10-AE68-4B069980018B@multivintage.com>
References: <LBXN6CK6GMU4.9QVU33QI3NC03@luweb02oc>
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Message-ID: <004b01da6f02$682e6660$388b3320$@comcast.net>

Remember the test drive at around midnight at the lower RV parking lot after you got the trans installed, after it rained ?

I do. I got there late Thursday night and discovered Friday morning I had destroyed one of my trailer axles.  I managed to find an axle in Topeka.

Only after I was laying under the trailer on Saturday between races putting it in that the spring perches were wrong and I said out loud ? great, now I need a welder,

a torch and a grinder all the time thinking I was pretty screwed. I heard one of the spectators standing next to the car say ? I have all of that, I?ll be right back?.

Sure enough he was in less than an hour. I moved the spring perches where they needed to be and continued on.

Great folks in Topeka.

 

Jim  g

 

From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com> 
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 10:10 PM
To: Dan Forgey <cofrog at q.com>
Cc: toodamnfunky at comcast.net; FOT at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Independent Rear Suspension

 

Ah, The Kastner Cup at Heartland Park.

One of my favorite racing weekends of all time, a real treat.

My first Kastner Cup.

I barely made it to the track. I had stayed up for days straight trying to get my car ready. Upon arrival I was greeted with the warmth and friendship of several the Great Triumph hero?s I had, until then, only read about in the funny pages.

My car broke in the first session.

A spectator, a GT6 guy named Brad brought me a moss covered barn find transmission that we installed under the Kansas moonlight.

The next day I was racing again.

I have this distinct memory of Sam Halkias screaming up behind me in the Catawamba Marina TR6. Looking back through my wink mirror he waved, paused and signaled to me with facial expressions and hand signals that only us auto racers could understand saying ?nice job little buddy, here I come; I?m now going to fly by you on your left side?.

We partied, raced, bought an Ambro body and finished our first Kastner Cup there in Heartland Park.

When I got home, there it was, a long and personal email from Kas Kastner?praising me, my dedication, the sound of my car, my driving style, and lap by lap list of how many tenths of second I was improving each lap in a segment of the track where he was taking ?splits?.

I couldn?t believe it.

It was the start of what Kas called our ?unique kinship?

He sure had a nice way of motivating people.

Godspeed old pals.

 

Jason Ostrowski 

Friendly Ghost Racing 

1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 4, 2024, at 3:36 PM, Dan Forgey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

? 

Yea that was me.  When I revamp the suspension on it it would lift the rear wheel in very tight corners.  Softened the rear sway one adjustment and all was well.

 

On Mon, 4 Mar, 2024 at 12:40 PM, JAMES GRAY via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

To: charly; charly via fot

That black 4A was owned by Dan Forgey and is now owned by Mark Eden.
I have an IRS chassis on my '64 and use a quaife and running LOTS of torque and never break an inside wheel loose but in Colorado we can run the Hoosier R7/SM7 DORT slicks. That has to be factored in.
That said, an IRS rear end will almost always grip better than a live axle with or without a LSD.
Overly stiff rear sway bars is usually the culprit. I run 3/4" on mine. A locker has always been out of the question for me.

Jim G # 102


> On 03/03/2024 6:04 PM MST Charly via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:
> 
>  
> I have always run (almost always) a LSD diff in my TR6.  I've run a Quaife (which I wasn't happy with) and a Trans-X with several different ratios.  I have no experience with a Locker, 
> but I'd imagine it would make it a beast.
> I think the Quaife would be good for a street car, I was able to spin the inside tire at lower speeds while corneing with it.
> When I wasn't running a LSD, I was able to spin a tire quite often.
> Charly Mitchel 
> TR6 #44
> 
> On Sun 03/03/24 12:24 PM , DENNIS DELAP via Fot fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>  sent:
> > A M I C I
> > This is a question that I have for those who race a TR6, TR250, or TR4A.
> > Are you running a limited slip differential? Seems to me I remember a Black 4A at the Heartland Park cup that did not
> > because it was sufficiently lowered and sprung.I?m contemplating taking the locker out of my TVR to make it nicer on
> > the street.Thanks in advance for your comments.
> > Dennis 
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From krhollar at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  5 08:07:35 2024
From: krhollar at yahoo.com (Ken Hollar)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:07:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3A Front End Alignment Race Specs
References: <1371351586.119570.1709651255493.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1371351586.119570.1709651255493@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello All,?
I am hurriedly preparing my Rescued Race Car for it's first time on the track in 45 years.?
Vara High Desert Challenge at Willow Springs is March 15-17.
Other than the standard TR3A specs, do you have general race settings for our cars?
Please pass them on.
Thanks,
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Tue Mar  5 10:36:46 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 12:36:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Steering wheel and column upgrade for racing?
Message-ID: <000a01da6f23$b235a6d0$16a0f470$@mindspring.com>

Any thoughts on a recommended steering wheel and quick release (such as a Krontec)?  Also, upgrades to the steering column for racing a TR6?  Rubber flex joint has been replaced with metal u-joint.  I have seen some 320mm/12.5? Momo Prototipo wheels that look interesting.  Not sure how they would fit, or what adapters might be required without cramping the cockpit.  I have an OMP Superquadro 330mm/13? steering wheel which I considered installing, but does not look quite period correct.

 

Figure some of you have ?been there, done that?.

 

Thanks,

 

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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Mar  6 02:09:49 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 02:09:49 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Testing
Message-ID: <c43c6bfc-b431-46a4-8b4a-03f37473b9b0@bradakis.com>

Working on a new server.  Nothing to see here.  Move along.

mjb.

From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Sun Mar 10 17:14:06 2024
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 16:14:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Press Release about Sonoma Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <1384692009.918859.1710112446519@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT, 
 
Please see the attached Press Release for the Kastner Cup race April 18-21 at Sonoma.
 
Hardy Prentice, the 1994 SCCA E Production National Champion will be the Grand Marshal.  I've attached Hardy's bio too.  Many will recall that Hardy flat towed his TR3 with his 1967 E-Type Jaguar across the country for an amazing 14 years.  A true character; can't wait to meet him at Sonoma!
 
Curt Johnston
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Sun Mar 10 18:24:56 2024
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 17:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tee Shirts and Poster
Message-ID: <306773303.920050.1710116696936@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,
 
Three more items to bring up.  Sorry I've been behind this year because of a busy work schedule, but I am concentrating on the Kastner Cup now. 
 
1.  Hotel Nearest Sonoma Raceway.  We have a hotel block near the track for up to four day (W-Sat Night).  Just book the days you need of course using the discount code on the attached flyer.  Book it as soon as you can.  A number of Triumph club folks are staying at this hotel, as well as Hardy Prentice.  But I've also attached a list of hotels in Petaluma which is bit further away from the tract (say 20 minutes).
 
2.  Tees.  This year we'll have Tee Shirts available at the track.  Let me know if you'd like to reserve one. 
 
3.  Poster.  Joe will be selling the 2024 poster (attached).
 
Also, I want to thank Gasket Works (Mordy Dunst), Good Parts, Moss, VTR, and TWOA for stepping up and being sponsors this year.  Sponsorships help us run the event without charging drivers extra money.  Mordy is paying to host a retirement party for Jerry Barker on Thursday, and Huffaker Engineering is hosting our Friday evening social.  
 
Thanks!
 
Curt Johnston
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From cmstenquist at gmail.com  Mon Mar 11 06:37:09 2024
From: cmstenquist at gmail.com (carl stenquist)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:37:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Press Release about Sonoma Kastner Cup
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On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 7:58?PM Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello FOT,
>
> Please see the attached Press Release for the Kastner Cup race April 18-21
> at Sonoma.
>
> Hardy Prentice, the 1994 SCCA E Production National Champion will be the
> Grand Marshal.  I've attached Hardy's bio too.  Many will recall that Hardy
> flat towed his TR3 with his 1967 E-Type Jaguar across the country for an
> amazing 14 years.  A true character; can't wait to meet him at Sonoma!
>
> Curt Johnston
> curt.johnston at comcast.net
> 707-249-1667
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From solarant at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 11 07:14:54 2024
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:14:54 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Press Release about Sonoma Kastner Cup
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I wonder how many people in all of space and time have done this?

Absolutely amazing. ?




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Subject: Re: [Fot] Press Release about Sonoma Kastner Cup

[image.png]

On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 7:58?PM Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hello FOT,

Please see the attached Press Release for the Kastner Cup race April 18-21 at Sonoma.

Hardy Prentice, the 1994 SCCA E Production National Champion will be the Grand Marshal.  I've attached Hardy's bio too.  Many will recall that Hardy flat towed his TR3 with his 1967 E-Type Jaguar across the country for an amazing 14 years.  A true character; can't wait to meet him at Sonoma!

Curt Johnston
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707-249-1667
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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Mon Mar 11 07:37:51 2024
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 09:37:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Press Release about Sonoma Kastner Cup
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What a prefect photo!

John
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:37:09 -0400, carl stenquist via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 7:58?PM Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



Hello FOT,?

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Please see the attached Press Release for the Kastner Cup race April 18-21 at Sonoma.

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Hardy Prentice, the 1994 SCCA E Production National Champion will be the Grand Marshal.? I've attached Hardy's bio too.? Many will recall that Hardy flat towed his TR3 with his 1967 E-Type Jaguar across the country for an amazing 14 years.? A true character; can't wait to meet him at Sonoma!

?

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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon Mar 11 08:22:37 2024
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 14:22:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Press Release about Sonoma Kastner Cup
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 I remember that rig well, from up in Atlanta @ the runoffs!
Glen Efinger

    On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:11:51 AM EDT, R. John Lye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 What a prefect photo!

John ? 

On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:37:09 -0400, carl stenquist via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
??On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 7:58?PM Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
Hello FOT,??Please see the attached Press Release for the Kastner Cup race April 18-21 at Sonoma.?Hardy Prentice, the 1994 SCCA E Production National Champion will be the Grand Marshal.? I've attached Hardy's bio too.? Many will recall that Hardy flat towed his TR3 with his 1967 E-Type Jaguar across the country for an amazing 14 years.? A true character; can't wait to meet him at Sonoma!?Curt Johnstoncurt.johnston at comcast.net707-249-1667_______________________________________________
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon Mar 11 09:47:37 2024
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:47:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Press Release about Sonoma Kastner Cup
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Oh the beauty and wonder of this image.  Hardy's racing efforts were truly amazing.  Beside fame and notoriety from all of his wins and towing with an E-type, I wonder how many road racing competitors, world wide, raced essentially the same car in regional and national competition for over 25 years.  If his first autocross competition in '65 is included, which he won, minus 14 months of military service, that's just about 32 years running the same car.  Amazing.
Dave H.

> On 03/11/2024 5:37 AM PDT carl stenquist via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
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> [image.png]
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> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 7:58?PM Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hello FOT, 
> >  
> > Please see the attached Press Release for the Kastner Cup race April 18-21 at Sonoma.
> >  
> > Hardy Prentice, the 1994 SCCA E Production National Champion will be the Grand Marshal.  I've attached Hardy's bio too.  Many will recall that Hardy flat towed his TR3 with his 1967 E-Type Jaguar across the country for an amazing 14 years.  A true character; can't wait to meet him at Sonoma!
> >  
> > Curt Johnston
> > curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net
> > 707-249-1667
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon Mar 11 10:09:47 2024
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Fri Mar 15 08:25:26 2024
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:25:26 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Racing brake pads for sale
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I have a couple sets of racing brake pads that don't meet my current
needs.  I'm offering them for sale, plus shipping, or free delivery to VIR
Wild Hare, MoSport VARAC in June, Summit Point J500, PVGP Historics, OR
pick up in Amherst, Ohio.

Hawk Black HB169M.560, for Girling 16P calipers (TR/GT6 etc).  Unused, $80

Carbotech XP8, CT137   for Toytoa 4 piston calipers.  Unused  $90



Jason Sukey
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Fri Mar 15 08:49:33 2024
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:49:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Racing brake pads for sale
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Jason,I will take both sets, and will pick them up from you at VIR.Will circle up on payment.Thanks,Mark CookSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Jason Sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 3/15/24  10:37 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: FOT list <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Racing brake pads for sale I have a couple sets of racing brake pads that don't meet my current needs.? I'm offering them for sale, plus shipping, or free delivery to VIR Wild Hare, MoSport VARAC in June, Summit Point J500, PVGP Historics, OR pick up in Amherst, Ohio.Hawk Black HB169M.560, for Girling 16P calipers (TR/GT6 etc).? Unused, $80Carbotech XP8, CT137? ?for Toytoa 4 piston calipers.? Unused? $90Jason Sukeyjsukey at gmail.com
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Fri Mar 15 09:07:43 2024
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:07:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 123Programable dizzy for sale, 6 cylinder
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Next up on the chopping block:
I have a good, used 123ignition PC programmable distributor for sale, 6
cylinder version (tr6/gt6/etc)

Great for sub-7000 rpm engines, above 7k, you are best disabling the rev
limiter on the 123dizzys.

$350 shipped in the continental USA.

Jason Sukey
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Fri Mar 15 10:03:00 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:03:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 123Programable dizzy for sale, 6 cylinder
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Laptop or mobile phone version?Thanks,MarkSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Jason Sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 3/15/24  11:58 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: FOT list <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] 123Programable dizzy for sale, 6 cylinder Next up on the chopping block:I have a good, used 123ignition PC programmable?distributor for sale, 6 cylinder version (tr6/gt6/etc)Great for sub-7000 rpm engines, above 7k, you are best disabling the rev limiter on the 123dizzys.$350 shipped in the continental USA.Jason Sukeyjsukey at gmail.com
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Fri Mar 15 10:22:11 2024
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:22:11 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 123Programable dizzy for sale, 6 cylinder
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The distributor has been sold, thanks for the interest!

Jason

On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 11:07?AM Jason Sukey <jsukey at gmail.com> wrote:

> Next up on the chopping block:
> I have a good, used 123ignition PC programmable distributor for sale, 6
> cylinder version (tr6/gt6/etc)
>
> Great for sub-7000 rpm engines, above 7k, you are best disabling the rev
> limiter on the 123dizzys.
>
> $350 shipped in the continental USA.
>
> Jason Sukey
> jsukey at gmail.com
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Fri Mar 15 10:22:34 2024
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:22:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Racing brake pads for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAMmo4o8R_=uMYDyfrDaX_qKHpPJ29h3BJwewZVRBd8MBHQsJ6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMmo4o8R_=uMYDyfrDaX_qKHpPJ29h3BJwewZVRBd8MBHQsJ6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmo4o9fs4D1QsnSGXePhkOZom69xpKgcFS2sZVprLe7hZYkyw@mail.gmail.com>

The brake pads have all be sold, thank you for the interest!

Jason

On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 10:25?AM Jason Sukey <jsukey at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a couple sets of racing brake pads that don't meet my current
> needs.  I'm offering them for sale, plus shipping, or free delivery to VIR
> Wild Hare, MoSport VARAC in June, Summit Point J500, PVGP Historics, OR
> pick up in Amherst, Ohio.
>
> Hawk Black HB169M.560, for Girling 16P calipers (TR/GT6 etc).  Unused, $80
>
> Carbotech XP8, CT137   for Toytoa 4 piston calipers.  Unused  $90
>
>
>
> Jason Sukey
> jsukey at gmail.com
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Sat Mar 16 23:02:31 2024
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:02:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Sonoma Prelim Schedule Posted & More
Message-ID: <800327477.1053558.1710651751438@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,
 
I wanted to report some great news regarding the Sonoma Kastner Cup.  As many of you may be aware, the registrations by Triumph drivers is very low this year.  We only have a dozen cars to date.  But significantly, SVRA has committed that the Kastner Cup will run as a separate run group throughout the weekend regardless of the car count. 
 
This includes the Kastner Cup race on Saturday, and a KC Reunion race on Sunday.  Most cars will also be able to run in their regular run group as well as the Kastner Cup.  There is a conflict with Triumphs that may run in Group 8 but we have asked for a schedule adjustment and we should know what changes they can make by next week.
 
Bottom line is that we will have 30 minute races both Saturday and Sunday.  Also important is that the test day includes three 30 sessions; 1.5 hours total on track.  Sonoma has a brand new race surface this year, so it will be interesting to find out how that impacts lap times.
 
I also want to confirm what Henry Frye wrote recently that the new fire supression system requirements will not be enforced until next year.  Regarding tires, the Kastner Cup is open.  Since we don't have any special tire limitations, just run on what you have in the past or what you may want to try out this year.  However, if you're running slick tires for example, you will not be eligible for a points/podium finish in your regular run group; but that will not impact your Kastner Cup results.   
 
So I ask this question; who is going to win the two Kastner Cup races in 2024?  While our Grand Marshall Hardy Prentice will select the Kastner Cup Trophy Winner, the field is wide open for race podium finishes without the 250k or TR8's running.  I think its stacking up to be an outstanding weekend with lots of track time and unknown race results.
 
I hope you'll consider joining in the fun if you're not registered yet.  Thanks.
 
Curt Johnston
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707-249-1667
 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Mar 17 02:00:57 2024
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 09:00:57 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Sonoma Prelim Schedule Posted & More
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Dear Curt,

 

No TR8? Your cars stay at home?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Curt Johnston via Fot
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2024 6:03 AM
To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Sonoma Prelim Schedule Posted & More

 

Hello FOT, 

  

I wanted to report some great news regarding the Sonoma Kastner Cup.  As many of you may be aware, the registrations by Triumph drivers is very low this year.  We only have a dozen cars to date.  But significantly, SVRA has committed that the Kastner Cup will run as a separate run group throughout the weekend regardless of the car count.  

  

This includes the Kastner Cup race on Saturday, and a KC Reunion race on Sunday.  Most cars will also be able to run in their regular run group as well as the Kastner Cup.  There is a conflict with Triumphs that may run in Group 8 but we have asked for a schedule adjustment and we should know what changes they can make by next week. 

  

Bottom line is that we will have 30 minute races both Saturday and Sunday.  Also important is that the test day includes three 30 sessions; 1.5 hours total on track.  Sonoma has a brand new race surface this year, so it will be interesting to find out how that impacts lap times. 

  

I also want to confirm what Henry Frye wrote recently that the new fire supression system requirements will not be enforced until next year.  Regarding tires, the Kastner Cup is open.  Since we don't have any special tire limitations, just run on what you have in the past or what you may want to try out this year.  However, if you're running slick tires for example, you will not be eligible for a points/podium finish in your regular run group; but that will not impact your Kastner Cup results.    

  

So I ask this question; who is going to win the two Kastner Cup races in 2024?  While our Grand Marshall Hardy Prentice will select the Kastner Cup Trophy Winner, the field is wide open for race podium finishes without the 250k or TR8's running.  I think its stacking up to be an outstanding weekend with lots of track time and unknown race results. 

  

I hope you'll consider joining in the fun if you're not registered yet.  Thanks. 

  

Curt Johnston 

curt.johnston at comcast.net <mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net>  

707-249-1667 

  

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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Sun Mar 17 16:37:40 2024
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:37:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Sonoma Prelim Schedule Posted & More
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From Dave at microworks.net  Tue Mar 19 16:49:17 2024
From: Dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:49:17 -0700
Subject: [Fot] A new Driver to add
Message-ID: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA650A3EE031F077@mainserver>

Would like to see Chris White added to our illustrious (lol) crew of demented Triumph Drivers

He is running a Spitfire (looks pretty sweet) with VARA currently.  Gonna get him the link for the Kastner so maybe he can join us

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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Tue Mar 19 17:44:30 2024
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 23:44:30 +0000
Subject: [Fot] And another new driver to add...
Message-ID: <SJ0PR15MB4552E9B87576A5C11F67012DE12C2@SJ0PR15MB4552.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

I'm pleased to introduce Andy Hoisington, who is purchasing Robert Mackenzie's 1147 Spit Racer that was listed here some weeks ago.  Mark will you please add him to the FOT list (or as Joe used to put it "twang your magic plunker")?

Andy has a street Spitfire, and has wanted to go racing for a long time.  Andy's my cousin and has visited us at the track a few times and is hooked.  Rather than converting his nice little street Spit into a race car, he saw the wisdom of starting with something that's all ready to go.  Or ALMOST all ready to go.  Andy will be working on reinstalling the freshly built race motor and plans to go through the Midwestern Council race school this summer.

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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 19 20:17:04 2024
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 02:17:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] And another new driver to add...
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Welcome Andy!


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On Tuesday, March 19, 2024, 9:16 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

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I?m pleased to introduce Andy Hoisington, who is purchasing Robert Mackenzie?s 1147 Spit Racer that was listed here some weeks ago.? Mark will you please add him to the FOT list (or as Joe used to put it ?twang your magic plunker?)?
 
 ?
 
Andy has a street Spitfire, and has wanted to go racing for a long time.? Andy?s my cousin and has visited us at the track a few times and is hooked.? Rather than converting his nice little street Spit into a race car, he saw the wisdom of starting with something that?s all ready to go.? Or ALMOST all ready to go.? Andy will be working on reinstalling the freshly built race motor and plans to go through the Midwestern Council race school this summer.
 
 ?
 
Scott (B.)
 
 ?
 
? 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Mar 19 21:53:10 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 21:53:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] New members
Message-ID: <5a7c7d24-aada-4740-9812-e2245f9819b6@bradakis.com>

Chris and Andrew are now on the list.

Welcome aboard!

mjb.

From krhollar at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 19 23:47:06 2024
From: krhollar at yahoo.com (Ken Hollar)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 05:47:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
References: <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello All,
This past weekend we fielded the Saved Race Car at Willow Springs Raceway with VARA for the first time since 1979.? It had been 45 years sleeping in a garage.? Last time at Willow Springs was 1974, 50 years ago.
Thanks to all for you inputs to help in this effort.? The trackside assistance was amazing to help us get to the Checkered Flag.
Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat.? A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar.? Suggested is an understatement.??
My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.? He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.
Now the question of which seat???
We are feverishly preparing for the Kastner Cup race a Sonoma in April.??
Any used seats available?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for you help,
Ken Hollar408-655-7569Carlsbad,Ca
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Wed Mar 20 04:32:12 2024
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 06:32:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6da2ce1ec5494be0b93b153c1d0fecb8@tr4racer.com>

Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by
Kirkey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked
OK in our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I
found only one that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series
38. 

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-to-20-Layback
 

Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing. 

When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly
when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple
drivers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in
different widths, and it really helps to have both you and the
son-in-law sit in the a couple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will
find one that is not too snug for one and not too loose for the other.
If you run into trouble, remember you can always fabricate a foam insert
(or just stuff some foam in the right places) to take up excess room for
the smaller of the two drivers.  

The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I
welded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for
the belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to
where the bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big
fender washers under the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go,
especially considering the 60 year old sheet metal. 

Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup! 

Henry Frye 

On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote:

> Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat.  A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar.  Suggested is an understatement.   
> 
> My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.  He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger. 
> 
> Now the question of which seat?
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From efishers at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 20 07:55:54 2024
From: efishers at sbcglobal.net (Mark Fisher)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:55:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
References: <1322914021.7220064.1710942954044.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1322914021.7220064.1710942954044@mail.yahoo.com>


Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while still fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr?dinger's bucket?).? I would have preferred a full containment seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in place.

While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you have time, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car easier.
I am bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track service after many dormant years.? Be safe, have fun!
Regards,

Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincible II(a)"
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirkey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-to-20-Layback?

Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.

When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple drivers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different widths, and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a couple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for one and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you can always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right places) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers.?

The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I welded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers under the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering the 60 year old sheet metal.

Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!

Henry Frye

On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote:

Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat.? A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar.? Suggested is an understatement.???My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.? He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.?Now the question of which seat???
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed Mar 20 08:42:07 2024
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 07:42:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <939526950.1163460.1710945727784@connect.xfinity.com>

Hi Ken,
Congratulations on your first weekend back on track with the TR3.
I really like the Kirkey Vintage seat in my car.  It's appropriate without a built-in headrest because my roll bar has one.  Either way, Kirkey is good quality, strong, safe and economical.  I like the snap-in cover too.  You can add padding where needed.  You might consider a TR4A or TR6 adjustable track to for mounting if you need one. 
Dave H. 
https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series55V/55v-series---vintage-class-bucket

> On 03/19/2024 10:47 PM PDT Ken Hollar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> Hello All,
>  
> This past weekend we fielded the Saved Race Car at Willow Springs Raceway with VARA for the first time since 1979.  It had been 45 years sleeping in a garage.  Last time at Willow Springs was 1974, 50 years ago.
>  
> Thanks to all for you inputs to help in this effort.  The trackside assistance was amazing to help us get to the Checkered Flag.
>  
> Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat.  A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar.  Suggested is an understatement.  
>  
> My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.  He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.
>  
> Now the question of which seat?  
>  
> We are feverishly preparing for the Kastner Cup race a Sonoma in April.  
>  
> Any used seats available?
>  
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>  
> Thanks for you help,
>  
> Ken Hollar
> 408-655-7569
> Carlsbad,Ca
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
> 
> http://www.fot-racing.com
> 
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 09:22:18 2024
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:22:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <939526950.1163460.1710945727784@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <939526950.1163460.1710945727784@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <9FEE6D9E-F527-4081-B110-3E67E4589330@gmail.com>

The new production Triumph TR4-TR6 adjustable seat track/slider brackets have been discontinued.  The last set I found available were $250 plus shipping.  So, used may be the only option!

Terry

> On Mar 20, 2024, at 11:12, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi Ken,
> Congratulations on your first weekend back on track with the TR3.
> I really like the Kirkey Vintage seat in my car.  It's appropriate without a built-in headrest because my roll bar has one.  Either way, Kirkey is good quality, strong, safe and economical.  I like the snap-in cover too.  You can add padding where needed.  You might consider a TR4A or TR6 adjustable track to for mounting if you need one. 
> Dave H. 
> https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series55V/55v-series---vintage-class-bucket
>> On 03/19/2024 10:47 PM PDT Ken Hollar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Hello All,
>>  
>> This past weekend we fielded the Saved Race Car at Willow Springs Raceway with VARA for the first time since 1979.  It had been 45 years sleeping in a garage.  Last time at Willow Springs was 1974, 50 years ago.
>>  
>> Thanks to all for you inputs to help in this effort.  The trackside assistance was amazing to help us get to the Checkered Flag.
>>  
>> Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat.  A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar.  Suggested is an understatement.  
>>  
>> My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.  He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.
>>  
>> Now the question of which seat?  
>>  
>> We are feverishly preparing for the Kastner Cup race a Sonoma in April.  
>>  
>> Any used seats available?
>>  
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>  
>> Thanks for you help,
>>  
>> Ken Hollar
>> 408-655-7569
>> Carlsbad,Ca
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 09:59:48 2024
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:59:48 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 20 10:04:38 2024
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:04:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
Message-ID: <BN9PR14MB5068B6AF81248846F35B88C0BA332@BN9PR14MB5068.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

This is a stretch, but I am looking for a source that might have a Kirkey 41701 seat cover in stock.  I am heading out Tuesday and discovered a ground squirrel has decided he likes the taste of mine. I tried Summit but it is a special order. I tried Kirkey direct, and they cannot ship one out until Monday and that doesn't help.  Any tips on getting rid of a squirrel that has taken up residence in my shop would work also.  I have spent plenty on various traps and recommended lethal foods to no avail. He likes it there.

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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Wed Mar 20 10:43:00 2024
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:43:00 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <6da2ce1ec5494be0b93b153c1d0fecb8@tr4racer.com>
References: <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1366050502.3751836.1710913626246@mail.yahoo.com>
 <6da2ce1ec5494be0b93b153c1d0fecb8@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <SN7PR22MB383436102BC69206CB86B44199332@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

I used a Butler seat.  (think NASCAR) They custom make the seat to fit you, problem for you is that you?d have to come to Charlotte to get it


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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 6:32 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations


Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirkey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-to-20-Layback

Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.

When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple drivers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different widths, and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a couple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for one and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you can always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right places) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers.

The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I welded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers under the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering the 60 year old sheet metal.

Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!

Henry Frye

On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote:
Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat.  A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar.  Suggested is an understatement.

My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.  He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.

Now the question of which seat?
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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Wed Mar 20 11:04:39 2024
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:04:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 20 11:23:24 2024
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 17:23:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
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The Kirkey seats are a fairly malleable aluminum so they take to being modified pretty well.?


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 11:30 AM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Mark,
I faced the same dilemma. My Mk3 had a 16.5? wide pan and a 17? wide Kirkey to fit.
My Chuck Gee approved modification was achieved with some ?re-contouring? of the inside pan lip with a 5 pound engineering hammer.
A perfect fit was soon created?
Brad EellsSent from my iPhone

On Mar 20, 2024, at 8:38?AM, Mark Fisher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?
Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while still fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr?dinger's bucket?).? I would have preferred a full containment seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in place.

While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you have time, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car easier.
I am bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track service after many dormant years.? Be safe, have fun!
Regards,

Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincible II(a)"
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirkey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-to-20-Layback?

Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.

When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple drivers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different widths, and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a couple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for one and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you can always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right places) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers.?

The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I welded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers under the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering the 60 year old sheet metal.

Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!

Henry Frye

On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote:

Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat.? A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar.? Suggested is an understatement.???My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.? He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.?Now the question of which seat???
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 11:26:10 2024
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:26:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 12:00:32 2024
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 14:00:32 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Looking for parts transport from Denver, NC to VIR next week
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Amici,
          Is anyone headed to VIR next week who would be willing to
transport two gearboxes and two differentials from a shop in Denver, NC up
to me at VIR?

Jason Sukey
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed Mar 20 13:30:47 2024
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 12:30:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
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Yes. I wanted to get closer to the peddles, but extend my arm reach, so I cut the seat where the lap belts pass and reclined the back more.  I also squeezed the back rest to fit closer.  I created a perfect seating position for myself.  I made mounting attachments, but a wrench is needed to move the seat for and aft and tilt/recline.  
Dave H.

> On 03/20/2024 10:23 AM PDT Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> The Kirkey seats are a fairly malleable aluminum so they take to being modified pretty well. 
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 11:30 AM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> > Mark,
> >  
> > I faced the same dilemma. My Mk3 had a 16.5? wide pan and a 17? wide Kirkey to fit.
> >  
> > My Chuck Gee approved modification was achieved with some ?re-contouring? of the inside pan lip with a 5 pound engineering hammer.
> >  
> > A perfect fit was soon created?
> >  
> > Brad Eells
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > 
> > > On Mar 20, 2024, at 8:38?AM, Mark Fisher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while still fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr?dinger's bucket?).  I would have preferred a full containment seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in place.
> > >  
> > > While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you have time, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car easier.
> > >  
> > > I am bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track service after many dormant years.  Be safe, have fun!
> > >  
> > > Regards,
> > >  
> > > Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincible II(a)"
> > > 
> > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://more.att.com/currently/imap
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirkey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-to-20-Layback 
> > > > 
> > > > Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.
> > > > 
> > > > When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple drivers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different widths, and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a couple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for one and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you can always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right places) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers. 
> > > > 
> > > > The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I welded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers under the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering the 60 year old sheet metal.
> > > > 
> > > > Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!
> > > > 
> > > > Henry Frye
> > > > 
> > > > On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat.  A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar.  Suggested is an understatement.  
> > > > >  
> > > > > My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.  He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.
> > > > >  
> > > > > Now the question of which seat?  
> > > > > 
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From sonomascot at aol.com  Wed Mar 20 15:03:01 2024
From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 21:03:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Fw:  1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
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Ken,

I have a discontinued Kirkey seat, (part # PT-41300V) with cover that has never been mounted - I bought it years ago to make a '62 MGB compliant with CSRG's rules regarding needing a passenger seat at the time. That car was sold before the seat was to be installed. It's not the high-backed seat and it doesn't have the holes cut it the top of the seat for shoulder harness's. It sort of matches the seat in my Group 1 '62 Spitfire where the shoulder straps are fastened?to the roll-bar and come over the top of the racing seat.It is 15" wide. I'm 5'9" and weigh 175 lbs. and there is room to spare for me -? Kirkey wants $256. now just for the cover - I'll sell seat and cover for $75. Unfortunately I no longer have the box that it was shipped in.??I live about 20 miles north of Sonoma Raceway, if you were planning on going to the K-cup, I could hand deliver it to you . . .Scott Meredith? ? sonomascot at aol.com(photo's at the bottom)

COVER - 41301V BLACK VINYL - FITS 41300V - Kirkey Racing Seats


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   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>To: Mark Fisher <efishers at sbcglobal.net>Cc: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 09:29:18 AM PDTSubject: Re: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations

On Mar 20, 2024, at 8:38?AM, Mark Fisher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while still fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr?dinger's bucket?).? I would have preferred a full containment seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in place.



On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirkey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-to-20-Layback?

Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.




On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote:

Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat.? A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar.? Suggested is an understatement.???My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.? He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.?Now the question of which seat???
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Wed Mar 20 15:03:31 2024
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 21:03:31 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Looking for parts transport from Denver,
 NC to VIR next week
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I?ll be getting my pickup truck from my lake Norman house in Denver Monday or Tuesday and the bed will be mostly empty I assume that would be enough space.  If so I would be happy to do so if I knew where exactly the shop is.  Give me a ring at 704-577-0175


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704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f)
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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jason Sukey via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 2:01 PM
To: FOT list <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Looking for parts transport from Denver, NC to VIR next week

Amici,
          Is anyone headed to VIR next week who would be willing to transport two gearboxes and two differentials from a shop in Denver, NC up to me at VIR?

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From JIBrooks at live.com  Wed Mar 20 17:44:40 2024
From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 23:44:40 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
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Try peppermint oil on/around the seat to dissuade that squirrel.

Jack Brooks

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of marty sukey via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:05 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701

This is a stretch, but I am looking for a source that might have a Kirkey 41701 seat cover in stock.  I am heading out Tuesday and discovered a ground squirrel has decided he likes the taste of mine. I tried Summit but it is a special order. I tried Kirkey direct, and they cannot ship one out until Monday and that doesn't help.  Any tips on getting rid of a squirrel that has taken up residence in my shop would work also.  I have spent plenty on various traps and recommended lethal foods to no avail. He likes it there.

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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 20 19:06:06 2024
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 01:06:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
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 Behrents.com shows that they have a 41701V cover ready to ship.? JoeB?
 
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Ofmarty sukey via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:05 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
 
 ?
 
This is a stretch, but I am looking for a source that might have a Kirkey 41701 seat cover in stock.? I am heading out Tuesday and discovered a ground squirrel has decided he likes the taste of mine. I tried Summit but it is a special order. I tried Kirkey direct, and they cannot ship one out until Monday and that doesn't help.? Any tips on getting rid of a squirrel that has taken up residence in my shop would work also.? I have spent plenty on various traps and recommended lethal foods to no avail. He likes it there.
 
 ?
 
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From 4msonset at gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 21:43:20 2024
From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 20:43:20 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Thu Mar 21 08:47:41 2024
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:47:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
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Long term can you trap rodents and make a cover from the hides?  ?  Ken

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: J Wagner via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:09 PM
To: Joe Boruch
Cc: FOT Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701


Budget night vision ratting
youtube.com

?


On Mar 20, 2024, at 6:11?PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
?
Behrents.com shows that they have a 41701V cover ready to ship.? JoeB
?
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of marty sukey via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:05 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
?
This is a stretch, but I am looking for a source that might have a Kirkey 41701 seat cover in stock.? I am heading out Tuesday and discovered a ground squirrel has decided he likes the taste of mine. I tried Summit but it is a special order. I tried Kirkey direct, and they cannot ship one out until Monday and that doesn't help.? Any tips on getting rid of a squirrel that has taken up residence in my shop would work also.? I have spent plenty on various traps and recommended lethal foods to no avail. He likes it there.
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Thu Mar 21 09:37:01 2024
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 09:37:01 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
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From david.c.cutter at gmail.com  Thu Mar 21 10:16:09 2024
From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:16:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR RV deluxe spot next weekend
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Just cancelled RV reservations for VDCA Wild Hare weekend if anyone is
looking for a spot.

Car not gonna be ready.

Their number is

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From fubog1 at aol.com  Thu Mar 21 13:36:40 2024
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 19:36:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
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 Hmmm that's a job for a suppressed .22 w/subsonic ammo or a high-power .177 airgun, or cats...Both concepts proven to be effective, the latter most so.

Glen in Fla

    On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 12:05:58 AM EDT, J Wagner via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
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| Budget night vision rattingyoutube.com |

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? Behrents.com shows that they have a 41701V cover ready to ship.? JoeB?
 
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Ofmarty sukey via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:05 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
 
 ?
 
This is a stretch, but I am looking for a source that might have a Kirkey 41701 seat cover in stock.? I am heading out Tuesday and discovered a ground squirrel has decided he likes the taste of mine. I tried Summit but it is a special order. I tried Kirkey direct, and they cannot ship one out until Monday and that doesn't help.? Any tips on getting rid of a squirrel that has taken up residence in my shop would work also.? I have spent plenty on various traps and recommended lethal foods to no avail. He likes it there.
 
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From robertten1 at aol.com  Thu Mar 21 13:37:25 2024
From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 19:37:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
References: <819335698.41823.1710983166623@mail.yahoo.com>
 <718AA29A-461C-420B-A779-157318A5AEC7@gmail.com>
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 Amici,

After almost 30 years autocross the? cover on my Ultrashield Drag Seat is starting to split some seams.? Obviously too old for them to still offer a cover so second option was to have it reahpoltsered.? At $475 I am going cheap for now ... gorilla tape.Agree not the option for everyone.
Just my 2cents,Bob T?    On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 10:58:25 AM EDT, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Long term can you trap rodents and make a cover from the hides?? ?? Ken

 ?

Sent from Mail for Windows

 ?

From: J Wagner via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:09 PM
To: Joe Boruch
Cc: FOT Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701

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| 

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| 
| 
Budget night vision ratting

youtube.com
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On Mar 20, 2024, at 6:11?PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?

Behrents.com shows that they have a 41701V cover ready to ship.? JoeB

?

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of marty sukey via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:05 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701

?

This is a stretch, but I am looking for a source that might have a Kirkey 41701 seat cover in stock.? I am heading out Tuesday and discovered a ground squirrel has decided he likes the taste of mine. I tried Summit but it is a special order. I tried Kirkey direct, and they cannot ship one out until Monday and that doesn't help.? Any tips on getting rid of a squirrel that has taken up residence in my shop would work also.? I have spent plenty on various traps and recommended lethal foods to no avail. He likes it there.

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From ponobill at gmail.com  Thu Mar 21 14:21:41 2024
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 10:21:41 -1000
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
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Actually, duct tape is kind of high-tech. I routinely made form-fitted seats for Peyote and other race cars with the time-honored black plastic trash bag with two-part foam. Tape the bag to the seat bucket, dump some mixed two-part foam in the bag, sit against it, and let the foam expand. Don?t overfill the bag or you might get some in your hair. Don?t ask me how I know. Once it?s set up I ?upholstered? the foam with duct tape. WAY better seat than any pre-made, nicely sewn, fancy-ass seat you might buy. All for the price of some two-part foam, a trash bag, and a roll of tape.

Bill Babcock
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> On Mar 21, 2024, at 9:37 AM, robertten1--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Amici,
> 
> 
> After almost 30 years autocross the  cover on my Ultrashield Drag Seat is starting to split some seams.  Obviously too old for them to still offer a cover so second option was to have it reahpoltsered.  At $475 I am going cheap for now ... gorilla tape.
> Agree not the option for everyone.
> 
> Just my 2cents,
> Bob T 
> On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 10:58:25 AM EDT, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Long term can you trap rodents and make a cover from the hides?  ?  Ken
> 
>  
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 
>  
> From: J Wagner via Fot <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:09 PM
> To: Joe Boruch <mailto:jaboruch at yahoo.com>
> Cc: FOT Triumph <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
> 
>  
> <BB468607D3044C11904D6F4935E8F3D0.jpg>
> 
> Budget night vision ratting <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09cJnH5NtQ&t=378s&pp=2AH6ApACAQ%3D%3D>
> youtube.com <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09cJnH5NtQ&t=378s&pp=2AH6ApACAQ%3D%3D>
> ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 20, 2024, at 6:11?PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> Behrents.com shows that they have a 41701V cover ready to ship.  JoeB
> 
>  
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of marty sukey via Fot
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:05 AM
> To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
> 
>  
> This is a stretch, but I am looking for a source that might have a Kirkey 41701 seat cover in stock.  I am heading out Tuesday and discovered a ground squirrel has decided he likes the taste of mine. I tried Summit but it is a special order. I tried Kirkey direct, and they cannot ship one out until Monday and that doesn't help.  Any tips on getting rid of a squirrel that has taken up residence in my shop would work also.  I have spent plenty on various traps and recommended lethal foods to no avail. He likes it there.
> 
>  
> Marty
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu Mar 21 15:28:50 2024
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 21:28:50 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
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I?ve done the same.  Makes a great seat.  But gaffer tape actually works a little better than duct tape in that situation as its surface is a bit more grippy that the slick duct tape surface.

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Ponostyle via Fot
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 3:22 PM
To: robertten1 at aol.com
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701

Actually, duct tape is kind of high-tech. I routinely made form-fitted seats for Peyote and other race cars with the time-honored black plastic trash bag with two-part foam. Tape the bag to the seat bucket, dump some mixed two-part foam in the bag, sit against it, and let the foam expand. Don?t overfill the bag or you might get some in your hair. Don?t ask me how I know. Once it?s set up I ?upholstered? the foam with duct tape. WAY better seat than any pre-made, nicely sewn, fancy-ass seat you might buy. All for the price of some two-part foam, a trash bag, and a roll of tape.

Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com<mailto:bill at ponostyle.com>
https://www.Ponostyle.com


On Mar 21, 2024, at 9:37 AM, robertten1--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Amici,


After almost 30 years autocross the  cover on my Ultrashield Drag Seat is starting to split some seams.  Obviously too old for them to still offer a cover so second option was to have it reahpoltsered.  At $475 I am going cheap for now ... gorilla tape.
Agree not the option for everyone.

Just my 2cents,
Bob T
On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 10:58:25 AM EDT, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:



Long term can you trap rodents and make a cover from the hides?  ?  Ken


Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows


From: J Wagner via Fot<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:09 PM
To: Joe Boruch<mailto:jaboruch at yahoo.com>
Cc: FOT Triumph<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701


<BB468607D3044C11904D6F4935E8F3D0.jpg>

Budget night vision ratting<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09cJnH5NtQ&t=378s&pp=2AH6ApACAQ%3D%3D>

youtube.com<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09cJnH5NtQ&t=378s&pp=2AH6ApACAQ%3D%3D>

?



On Mar 20, 2024, at 6:11?PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

?

Behrents.com<http://Behrents.com> shows that they have a 41701V cover ready to ship.  JoeB


From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of marty sukey via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:05 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701


This is a stretch, but I am looking for a source that might have a Kirkey 41701 seat cover in stock.  I am heading out Tuesday and discovered a ground squirrel has decided he likes the taste of mine. I tried Summit but it is a special order. I tried Kirkey direct, and they cannot ship one out until Monday and that doesn't help.  Any tips on getting rid of a squirrel that has taken up residence in my shop would work also.  I have spent plenty on various traps and recommended lethal foods to no avail. He likes it there.


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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Thu Mar 21 15:48:38 2024
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 21:48:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701
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Just you guys wait ?til you are 88 and you?ll remove the covers all together, slick Alloy slides up and down and makes it much easier to get in and out.


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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Barr, Scott via Fot
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 5:29 PM
To: Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com>; robertten1 at aol.com
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701

I?ve done the same.  Makes a great seat.  But gaffer tape actually works a little better than duct tape in that situation as its surface is a bit more grippy that the slick duct tape surface.

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Ponostyle via Fot
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 3:22 PM
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Cc: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701

Actually, duct tape is kind of high-tech. I routinely made form-fitted seats for Peyote and other race cars with the time-honored black plastic trash bag with two-part foam. Tape the bag to the seat bucket, dump some mixed two-part foam in the bag, sit against it, and let the foam expand. Don?t overfill the bag or you might get some in your hair. Don?t ask me how I know. Once it?s set up I ?upholstered? the foam with duct tape. WAY better seat than any pre-made, nicely sewn, fancy-ass seat you might buy. All for the price of some two-part foam, a trash bag, and a roll of tape.

Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com<mailto:bill at ponostyle.com>
https://www.Ponostyle.com

On Mar 21, 2024, at 9:37 AM, robertten1--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Amici,


After almost 30 years autocross the  cover on my Ultrashield Drag Seat is starting to split some seams.  Obviously too old for them to still offer a cover so second option was to have it reahpoltsered.  At $475 I am going cheap for now ... gorilla tape.
Agree not the option for everyone.

Just my 2cents,
Bob T
On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 10:58:25 AM EDT, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:



Long term can you trap rodents and make a cover from the hides?  ?  Ken


Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows


From: J Wagner via Fot<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:09 PM
To: Joe Boruch<mailto:jaboruch at yahoo.com>
Cc: FOT Triumph<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701


<BB468607D3044C11904D6F4935E8F3D0.jpg>

Budget night vision ratting<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09cJnH5NtQ&t=378s&pp=2AH6ApACAQ%3D%3D>

youtube.com<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09cJnH5NtQ&t=378s&pp=2AH6ApACAQ%3D%3D>

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On Mar 20, 2024, at 6:11?PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

?

Behrents.com<http://Behrents.com> shows that they have a 41701V cover ready to ship.  JoeB


From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of marty sukey via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:05 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Fot] Kirkey Seat Cover 41701


This is a stretch, but I am looking for a source that might have a Kirkey 41701 seat cover in stock.  I am heading out Tuesday and discovered a ground squirrel has decided he likes the taste of mine. I tried Summit but it is a special order. I tried Kirkey direct, and they cannot ship one out until Monday and that doesn't help.  Any tips on getting rid of a squirrel that has taken up residence in my shop would work also.  I have spent plenty on various traps and recommended lethal foods to no avail. He likes it there.


Marty

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From seacubeco at aol.com  Sat Mar 23 07:30:08 2024
From: seacubeco at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 09:30:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Moving service
References: <E767731D-3FA8-40C7-9C5A-50DA47895C54.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E767731D-3FA8-40C7-9C5A-50DA47895C54@aol.com>

Amici,

I have something near Milwaukee, WI that I would like to get to Raleigh,NC, or VIR or close to there.  

It?s about 250 lbs and is a ?lathe?.  It can be on a moving dolly to roll around.   Two people can lift it.  I have pictures if needed.   The foot print is about 20 inches deep, 5 feet long and 20 inches high.  

Thanks

Chris 

From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Sat Mar 23 10:31:05 2024
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 11:31:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Canopy
Message-ID: <A4ED27EA-05F3-4CFF-ADB2-36739534FC6D@wi.rr.com>

FOT,

I have a 10? x 20? Euromax Premium Pop-Up Canopy for sale. Comes complete with orange ratchet straps, water feet and military stakes. Red. Used twice. 

Please contact me off-line if interested.

Thank you,

Allen Washatko
awashatko at wi.rr.com



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From pethier7 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 23 15:32:49 2024
From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Phil Ethier)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 16:32:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Canopy
In-Reply-To: <A4ED27EA-05F3-4CFF-ADB2-36739534FC6D@wi.rr.com>
References: <A4ED27EA-05F3-4CFF-ADB2-36739534FC6D@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <DCE4A452-372D-4608-BE6A-FF5A26F33C83@gmail.com>

Location location location 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2024, at 11:40 AM, Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?FOT,
> 
> I have a 10? x 20? Euromax Premium Pop-Up Canopy for sale. Comes complete with orange ratchet straps, water feet and military stakes. Red. Used twice. 
> 
> Please contact me off-line if interested.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Allen Washatko
> awashatko at wi.rr.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Mon Mar 25 11:38:58 2024
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 11:38:58 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 body panels
Message-ID: <010201da7edb$51dcbf90$f5963eb0$@hot-tr6.com>

In 2022,23 I parted out a couple of New Mexico based late model Triumph
TR6s. The drive trains are sold and gone but I have a lot of rust free TR6
body panels in case any FOT members are in need. I will be attending the
upcoming Sonoma Kastner Cup and have room in my trailer to bring some along
with me. Contact me directly if there is any interest.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico

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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Mar 25 12:40:04 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 12:40:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: COTA lodging
In-Reply-To: <03E367AB-652B-4195-A340-7C9BFF8113E1@sbcglobal.net>
References: <03E367AB-652B-4195-A340-7C9BFF8113E1@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <687c88fc-925f-4c53-bb6a-c12c815aa9f1@bradakis.com>

To send email to the FOT email list, one uses fot at autox.team.net as the 
email address.  Is is NOT that difficult.

mjb.

ps: I've booked my rooms for Kastner Cup, got approved for the time off, 
looking forward to the adventure!


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: COTA lodging
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 11:38:38 -0500
From: DENNIS WALJE <walje at sbcglobal.net>
To: fot-owner at autox.team.net


Friends

Can anyone suggest lodging/B&B near COTA?  Room for trailer parking 
would be a plus.
Thanks

Dennis Walje
68 GT6

Sent from my iPhone

From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Tue Mar 26 15:22:47 2024
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 21:22:47 +0000
Subject: [Fot] VIR
Message-ID: <SN7PR22MB3834D414129B9DAE2B6356EC99352@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Wow! 9 of us Triumphs entered for the Wild Hair at VIR,  Bob Lang included,  must be his first trip "Down South"...gosh Henry, did you tell him that you pit in the dirt rather than the paved paddock?


[image001.png]

John H. Hasty
Of Counsel
Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.
301 S. York St.,
P.O. Box 488
Gastonia, NC 28053
704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f)
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 26 15:50:31 2024
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 21:50:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VIR
In-Reply-To: <SN7PR22MB3834D414129B9DAE2B6356EC99352@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SN7PR22MB3834D414129B9DAE2B6356EC99352@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1983818159.1261354.1711489831496@mail.yahoo.com>

I was working hard to make it 10 Triumphs, but the parts gods, God of Assembly, and work gods were not on my side for this one.
Good luck, all!
Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, March 26, 2024, 5:30 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

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Wow! 9 of us Triumphs entered for the Wild Hair at VIR,? Bob Lang included, ?must be his first trip ?Down South??gosh Henry, did you tell him that you pit in the dirt rather than the paved paddock?
 
 ?
 
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| 

  | 
?
 
John H. Hasty
 
Of Counsel
 
Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.
 
301 S. York St.,
 
P.O. Box 488
 
Gastonia, NC 28053
 
704.864.6751?(p)?704.861.8394?(f)
 
mhc-law.com?|?jhasty at mhc-law.com
 
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Tue Mar 26 15:53:13 2024
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 21:53:13 +0000
Subject: [Fot] VIR
In-Reply-To: <1983818159.1261354.1711489831496@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <SN7PR22MB3834D414129B9DAE2B6356EC99352@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
 <1983818159.1261354.1711489831496@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SN7PR22MB383407DEA49654F99B4E1A3099352@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Sad to here that Dave, I need someone to help me off the podium like you did at Watkins Glen!


[image001.png]

John H. Hasty
Of Counsel
Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.
301 S. York St.,
P.O. Box 488
Gastonia, NC 28053
704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f)
mhc-law.com<http://mhc-law.com/> | jhasty at mhc-law.com<mailto:jhasty at mhc-law.com>




From: David Gott <triumphsix at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 5:51 PM
To: John H. Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com>; FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] VIR

I was working hard to make it 10 Triumphs, but the parts gods, God of Assembly, and work gods were not on my side for this one.

Good luck, all!

Dave Gott

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone<https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_>


On Tuesday, March 26, 2024, 5:30 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Wow! 9 of us Triumphs entered for the Wild Hair at VIR,  Bob Lang included,  must be his first trip ?Down South??gosh Henry, did you tell him that you pit in the dirt rather than the paved paddock?





[image001.png]



John H. Hasty

Of Counsel

Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.

301 S. York St.,

P.O. Box 488

Gastonia, NC 28053

704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f)

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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue Mar 26 16:24:06 2024
From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 22:24:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VIR
In-Reply-To: <1983818159.1261354.1711489831496@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <SN7PR22MB3834D414129B9DAE2B6356EC99352@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
 <1983818159.1261354.1711489831496@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <695573371.1262407.1711491846669@mail.yahoo.com>

 Make that 11.....
    On Tuesday, March 26, 2024 at 06:13:01 PM EDT, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I was working hard to make it 10 Triumphs, but the parts gods, God of Assembly, and work gods were not on my side for this one.
Good luck, all!
Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, March 26, 2024, 5:30 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

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Wow! 9 of us Triumphs entered for the Wild Hair at VIR,? Bob Lang included, ?must be his first trip ?Down South??gosh Henry, did you tell him that you pit in the dirt rather than the paved paddock?
 
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| 

  | 
?
 
John H. Hasty
 
Of Counsel
 
Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.
 
301 S. York St.,
 
P.O. Box 488
 
Gastonia, NC 28053
 
704.864.6751?(p)?704.861.8394?(f)
 
mhc-law.com?|?jhasty at mhc-law.com
 
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From pethier7 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 26 17:40:27 2024
From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Philip Ethier)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 18:40:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] VIR
In-Reply-To: <SN7PR22MB3834D414129B9DAE2B6356EC99352@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SN7PR22MB3834D414129B9DAE2B6356EC99352@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAE16_w1d_Y-xx9FkO3PojoT+ictWg=6yZBegypKV_q98y+iH+A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 4:45?PM John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Wow! 9 of us Triumphs entered for the Wild Hair at VIR,
>

I guess I would have expected it to be named "Wild Hare".

-- 
Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA
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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 26 18:05:58 2024
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 00:05:58 +0000
Subject: [Fot] VIR
Message-ID: <1f159b71-7c62-b3cd-f028-6d64e8ce1cc2@earthlink.net>

That is what it has been named that for 22 years!  
Trust me, I gave it that name and have been creating the grid Every year since.
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Ethier <pethier7 at gmail.com>
Sent: Mar 26, 2024 7:54 PM
To: John H. Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com>
Cc: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] VIR

 


On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 4:45?PM John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net (mailto:fot at autox.team.net)> wrote:
Wow! 9 of us Triumphs entered for the Wild Hair at VIR,



 
I guess I would have expected it to be named "Wild Hare".

 
-- 
Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA











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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Tue Mar 26 19:02:37 2024
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 21:02:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR
In-Reply-To: <695573371.1262407.1711491846669@mail.yahoo.com>
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Tue Mar 26 19:11:11 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 21:11:11 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR
In-Reply-To: <1f159b71-7c62-b3cd-f028-6d64e8ce1cc2@earthlink.net>
References: <1f159b71-7c62-b3cd-f028-6d64e8ce1cc2@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00eb01da7fe3$a83f85d0$f8be9170$@mindspring.com>

Look forward to meeting you guys at VIR in person.  Appreciate all the advice and recommendations and hope to add to the list of the Triumphs in next year?s VDCA Wild Hare Run.

 

I will be spectating as mine is not back to track condition.  Like Dave, parts, time and my labor have been in short supply.    The ?oh, while I am in there, might as well?? syndrome has led me to some additional, but needed repairs.

 

Weather looks good for Fri, Sat and Sun!  For those who have driven VIR, it is fun!  See you there.

 

Regards,

 

Mark Cook

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Jackson via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 8:06 PM
To: Philip Ethier; John H. Hasty
Cc: FOT Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] VIR

 

That is what it has been named that for 22 years!  
Trust me, I gave it that name and have been creating the grid Every year since.

-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Ethier <pethier7 at gmail.com>
Sent: Mar 26, 2024 7:54 PM
To: John H. Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com>
Cc: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] VIR

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 4:45?PM John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Wow! 9 of us Triumphs entered for the Wild Hair at VIR,

 

I guess I would have expected it to be named "Wild Hare".

 

-- 

Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA

 

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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 29 17:55:02 2024
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:55:02 -0400
Subject: [Fot] three Heralds
Message-ID: <CAG9YvYNYPtWyGJSpVBhoF1kHzHciOF_Abz-=RZez_GU-jrENdA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi FOT'rs
thought I'd share this in case Jerry or others may be interested. Livonia
is probably about 30 minutes south of route 90 interstate / Rochester NY
Cheers
Brian
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Brian Schirano
585-305-0349



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