[Fot] Koni vs Gaz vs Spax - TR6 racecar

[Mark Cook]

Dave,Thanks for the pic.MarkSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net> Date: 1/31/24  10:09 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Mark Cook <mecook at mindspring.com>, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni vs Gaz vs Spax - TR6 racecar  
   Attached is a photo of the adjustable Armstrong shock on my TR3. 
   
   
   
     On 01/31/2024 1:38 PM PST Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
    
   
       
    
   
       
    
    
    Bob and Charly, 
      
    Thanks – It crossed my mind about potential rear frame damage with the tube shock bracket when I was inspecting the rear shocks.  Not a lot of support there compared to the original lever shocks.  So, with your and Charly’s comments, will likely refit with adjustable lever shocks for the rear. 
      
    Appreciate both your and Mark S’s comments on Delrin/Nylatron which is also helpful.    
      
    Hope to see you at VIR in March/April.  Will not be driving, but will be up to watch. 
      
    Thanks you, 
      
    Mark 
      
     
      
      From: Robert Lang [mailto:robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 1:40 PMTo: fot at autox.team.net; Mark CookSubject: Re: [Fot] Koni vs Gaz vs Spax - TR6 racecar 
      
     
      
     
      
      Hi, 
      
      
        
      
      
      Go with the Koni shocks in front. The SPAX shocks work well, but the gas leaks out and they become "just shocks" and without the gas, they can foam which effects the shock efficiency over the course of a session. Or plan to replace the Spax every two years, plus or minus. 
      
      
        
      
      
      For the rears, unless you converted to a coil over setup and / or tie your shocks to your roll cage GET RID OF THE TUBE SHOCKS. I have seen a lot of problems with the conversion shock setups out there and you risk frame damage running with those shocks. I can write a lot on this topic, but unless you can verify the action of the bump stops AND secure the shocks via rod ends, I will guarantee frame structural failure over time. 
      
      
        
      
      
      So - get a set of stock Armstrong lever shocks for the rear and get nosimport.com (worldwide autoparts in Madison, WI) to rebuild them as adjustable and you get both a workable, reliable setup and it will work without messing up your frame. Unless you do stupid things like I do and bottom the suspension and break the frame, but I digress. I've run the Armstong adjustables for a long time and they work great. With a little tuning, you can get rid of the rear squat when you tromp on it, Makes the car handle completely differently. 
      
      
        
      
      
      Delrin is a trademark, I believe - the material is the same as Nylatron. You can verify by looking at the durometer ratings. 
      
      
        
      
      
      Regards, 
      
      
      Bob Lang 
      
      
        
      
     
     
      
       
       On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 01:24:07 PM EST, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
       
       
         
       
       
         
       
       
        
         
          
          Quick question (maybe?).   I am replacing the existing Koni front adjustable shocks (PN 80-1784).  Bushings are worn out as likely are the shocks. Same with the rear adjustable SPAX shocks on my ’69 TR6 racecar.  I am more familiar with Bilstein, Koni and MCS.   
            
          Any preference?  Spax and Gaz are unknown to me, but the external adjuster is appealing compared to having to remove the Koni’s every time I need to adjust the suspension. 
            
          Using the “while I am in there” approach, I will be replacing all the front/rear suspension bushings.  Have purchased Nylatron bushings.  Cannot find Delrin products for TR6. 
            
          Thanks, 
            
          Mark Cook 
          
         
        
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