From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Mon Apr  1 10:50:13 2024
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 11:50:13 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Inexpensive TR3 radiator on eBay
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 11:24:19 2024
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 17:24:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Inexpensive TR3 radiator on eBay
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 Greg,I have used similar radiators in all three of our race cars (TR3, TR6 and Sprite). The 3 and 6 ones were bought from fume7650 on ebay, and we've been very happy with them. Raced the Kastner cup at RA last year with both cars and had no issues. Cooling has never been a problem, welds look a heck of a lot better than I can do, and the cost is great.
Jake
    On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 12:15:23 PM CDT, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 

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From kknight at klaenv.com  Mon Apr  1 13:13:10 2024
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 12:13:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Inexpensive TR3 radiator on eBay
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It looks good, but price is very low for a quality product.  I would wonder how long it is going to hold up.  Ken

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From: Greg Blake via Fot
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 10:32 AM
To: Fot
Subject: [Fot] Inexpensive TR3 radiator on eBay



Aluminum Radiator &Shroud &Fan For Triumph TR2 TR3 TR3A TR3B MT 1954-1962 54 55
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 13:21:17 2024
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 19:21:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Inexpensive TR3 radiator on eBay
References: <5698AEA6-A43B-4FC5-B10C-DB5A0C275B7C@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <1026613420.4238807.1711999277837@mail.yahoo.com>

 I paid about the same ($245) for my rad/fan combo... I've been racing the one in my Sprite for 10+ years and haven't had any issues.
Jake
    On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 02:16:35 PM CDT, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
It looks good, but price is very low for a quality product.? I would wonder how long it is going to hold up.? Ken

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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Apr  1 13:48:46 2024
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 09:48:46 -1000
Subject: [Fot] Inexpensive TR3 radiator on eBay
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I?m surprised I haven?t seen a ?cheap Chinese shit? comment yet. Those comments always leave me wondering if anyone has seen the welding on cheap Chinese shit. On my very best day it?s 10X better than I?ve ever managed. 

Bill Babcock
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> On Apr 1, 2024, at 9:13 AM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> It looks good, but price is very low for a quality product.  I would wonder how long it is going to hold up.  Ken
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  1 14:54:39 2024
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 16:54:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Inexpensive TR3 radiator on eBay
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From 4msonset at gmail.com  Mon Apr  1 15:18:53 2024
From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 14:18:53 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Inexpensive TR3 radiator on eBay
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon Apr  1 16:01:41 2024
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 17:01:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to Richard Good. Sponsor to the Sonoma Kastner Cup.
Message-ID: <7A728043-69A6-45E4-A2CC-828880EF11BE@gmail.com>

Thank you Richard, for your generous sponsorship.

And congratulations on your nomination to the BSCHOF.


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From Dave at microworks.net  Tue Apr  2 16:22:06 2024
From: Dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 15:22:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Golf Cart Rental at Sonoma and Laguna
Message-ID: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA650A3EE031F111@mainserver>

Curt can you help with this as you are in the area?

Has anyone ever obtained a Golf Cart to rent at either/both Sonoma and Laguna Seca?  It is turning into a HUGE runaround.  Both vendor for Sonoma and Laguna require, as part of the rental, that we obtain a $1,000,000 General Liability policy and supply them with the documentation showing we have such a policy.

The Company that Sonoma referred me, named Thimble, to for this type policy said they don't do it and referred me to a "Partner" Company named Tivly that does. Called them and they in turn referred me to a company, Ideal Insurance Agency, that I have emailed but never heard back from

For Laguna Seca the company they referred me to, K and K Insurance, I sent them this question...

"You were recommended as a vendor to obtain a Comprehensive General Liability, Bodily Injury and Property Damage, combined single amount of 1,000,000 as part of the rental agreement on some Golf Carts for an event at Laguna Seca. We would also need the same type policy for an event at Sonoma Raceway"

They replied back with an application for a policy as if I wanted to host an event. Questions like have we have ever done an event like this, will it be open to the public, number and age of the participants, etc...

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From thompsong at prodigy.net  Fri Apr  5 05:27:39 2024
From: thompsong at prodigy.net (GREGORY THOMPSON)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 11:27:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
References: <2103629563.6201669.1712316459147.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Has anyone had an issue with breaking into a water jacket on the TR4A head with taking off .150?
Thank you,
Greg Thompson?
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  5 07:34:30 2024
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:34:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
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Hi,
I had a super fun weekend at VIR for the Wild Hare. I developed a coolant leak that we couldn't track down at the track. I'd go about 5 laps at full chat and then the cooling system would push enough coolant to get an air bubble and then I'd see the temp gauge indicating a problem and would pull in. Even so, I had a great time. The track is awesome and we got to hang around with FOT friends old and new. But it was really kool hanging around with the usual suspects as well as Dean Tetterton, John Harkness and some new faces like Mark Cook. It'll be fun to see some more TR6's on track in the coming years.
I manged to get down to a 2:20.8xx which was my target time. Henry Frye got into the 2:18's during the morning race on SAT. Speaking of which, had I not seen my temp problems, I probably would have had a a podium finish with the Group 3 race. I was in 2nd overall for the first 4 laps, I think. Too bad that video didn't come out. That said, even running a distant second, I was still racing on the same track as Denny Wilson.
At any rate, I posted a video from the Friday afternoon practice / qualifier: VIR Hot Laps 

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From mark at efishers.com  Fri Apr  5 10:38:59 2024
From: mark at efishers.com (Mark Fisher)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:38:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheels for Sale
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Howdy:
Figure I would post here first.? I have a decent set (qty 4) of Cosmic wheels with Spitfire bolt pattern for sale.? $400 for the set, F.O.B. Woodstock, IL.
email off list, text, call for more info more photos.
Thanks,
Mark "Silo" FisherMark at eFishers.com651-587-4622
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From msanterre14 at gmail.com  Fri Apr  5 17:40:15 2024
From: msanterre14 at gmail.com (Mark Santerre)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 19:40:15 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Cam grinding
Message-ID: <CANRE_fKjmSh8uJkDvxAULLfoB7SFEvfKghPCkr-UYQXfDhh2uw@mail.gmail.com>

Would anyone know of a good Cam Grinding shop?
Preferably in the New England area but not limited to it.
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From tr4 at wi.rr.com  Fri Apr  5 18:56:50 2024
From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (tr4)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 19:56:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
In-Reply-To: <2103629563.6201669.1712316459147@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.17.1712365036.23353.fot@autox.team.net>

I have never had to go that far.? The problem would be not the combustion chamber but the flat surface would be way too thin and collapse in short order.? You would be much better off with popping the piston or go with a slight done to get that level of compression.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: GREGORY THOMPSON via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 4/5/24  6:36 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling Has anyone had an issue with breaking into a water jacket on the TR4A head with taking off .150?Thank you,Greg Thompson?
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From steve at artwithcars.com  Fri Apr  5 21:11:00 2024
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 20:11:00 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
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I have 1 head with 190 off and another with over 200 off and they work well, not staked.  Maybe I got lucky.  There?s not any room left for skimming which means they?re mostly used up. 

~Steve Belfer 


> On Apr 5, 2024, at 7:52?PM, tr4 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have never had to go that far.  The problem would be not the combustion chamber but the flat surface would be way too thin and collapse in short order.  You would be much better off with popping the piston or go with a slight done to get that level of compression.
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> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
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> Date: 4/5/24 6:36 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
> 
> Has anyone had an issue with breaking into a water jacket on the TR4A head with taking off .150?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Greg Thompson 
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Fri Apr  5 21:21:17 2024
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer Gmail)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 22:21:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
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References: <20240406025903.72974A13E4@autox.team.net>
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on page 43 of the "triumph preparation handbook
it says "to achieve the 11.7c.r. mill .150" from the stock cylender head face,use the 87mm cyl. & 
piston kit and a steel shim head gasket"


A  lot of us have done just that, successfully. 


You only get one chance at life, make it a TRIUMPH.

> On Apr 5, 2024, at 9:58?PM, tr4 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have never had to go that far.  The problem would be not the combustion chamber but the flat surface would be way too thin and collapse in short order.  You would be much better off with popping the piston or go with a slight done to get that level of compression.
> 
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> 
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: GREGORY THOMPSON via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Date: 4/5/24 6:36 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
> 
> Has anyone had an issue with breaking into a water jacket on the TR4A head with taking off .150?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Greg Thompson 
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Apr  5 22:52:24 2024
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 18:52:24 -1000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
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You might get away with that without staking, but you might not. These are clunky castings, variation from head to head is likely. Kas used staking to prevent collapse. My heads were more conservative except for the one that came on the original engine in Peyote, which didn?t hold gaskets reliably. 
Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
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https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On Apr 5, 2024, at 5:21 PM, Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> on page 43 of the "triumph preparation handbook
> it says "to achieve the 11.7c.r. mill .150" from the stock cylender head face,use the 87mm cyl. & 
> piston kit and a steel shim head gasket"
> 
> 
> A  lot of us have done just that, successfully. 
> 
> 
> You only get one chance at life, make it a TRIUMPH.
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2024, at 9:58?PM, tr4 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> I have never had to go that far.  The problem would be not the combustion chamber but the flat surface would be way too thin and collapse in short order.  You would be much better off with popping the piston or go with a slight done to get that level of compression.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: GREGORY THOMPSON via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Date: 4/5/24 6:36 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
>> 
>> Has anyone had an issue with breaking into a water jacket on the TR4A head with taking off .150?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Greg Thompson 
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Sat Apr  6 07:12:52 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 09:12:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
Message-ID: <002f01da8824$223b4200$66b1c600$@mindspring.com>

Nice video Bob.  Was great to meet everyone in person at VIR on Saturday.  Hope to add to the number of Triumphs on the track at the Wild Hare Run next year.

 

Link to some pics and a video of Group 3 leaving the grid on Saturday.  

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UZ0aiSEiYES9NK4lJdiZsekeN49Ko7LI?usp=drive_link

 

 

Thanks,

 

Mark Cook

 

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Lang via Fot
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2024 9:35 AM
To: FOT Triumph
Subject:[Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024

 

Hi,

 

I had a super fun weekend at VIR for the Wild Hare. I developed a coolant leak that we couldn't track down at the track. I'd go about 5 laps at full chat and then the cooling system would push enough coolant to get an air bubble and then I'd see the temp gauge indicating a problem and would pull in. Even so, I had a great time. The track is awesome and we got to hang around with FOT friends old and new. But it was really kool hanging around with the usual suspects as well as Dean Tetterton, John Harkness and some new faces like Mark Cook. It'll be fun to see some more TR6's on track in the coming years.

 

I manged to get down to a 2:20.8xx which was my target time. Henry Frye got into the 2:18's during the morning race on SAT. Speaking of which, had I not seen my temp problems, I probably would have had a a podium finish with the Group 3 race. I was in 2nd overall for the first 4 laps, I think. Too bad that video didn't come out. That said, even running a distant second, I was still racing on the same track as Denny Wilson.

 

At any rate, I posted a video from the Friday afternoon practice / qualifier: VIR Hot Laps <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mD2IbU0mcE>  

 




	
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VIR Hot Laps


 

Check it out.

 

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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Apr  6 07:59:00 2024
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 09:59:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
In-Reply-To: <002f01da8824$223b4200$66b1c600$@mindspring.com>
References: <002f01da8824$223b4200$66b1c600$@mindspring.com>
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scary number of Miatas in that group.

On Apr 6, 2024, at 9:12 AM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Nice video Bob.  Was great to meet everyone in person at VIR on Saturday.  Hope to add to the number of Triumphs on the track at the Wild Hare Run next year.
 
Link to some pics and a video of Group 3 leaving the grid on Saturday.  

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UZ0aiSEiYES9NK4lJdiZsekeN49Ko7LI?usp=drive_link <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UZ0aiSEiYES9NK4lJdiZsekeN49Ko7LI?usp=drive_link>
 
 
Thanks,
 
Mark Cook
 
 
 
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of Robert Lang via Fot
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2024 9:35 AM
To: FOT Triumph
Subject:[Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
 
Hi,
 
I had a super fun weekend at VIR for the Wild Hare. I developed a coolant leak that we couldn't track down at the track. I'd go about 5 laps at full chat and then the cooling system would push enough coolant to get an air bubble and then I'd see the temp gauge indicating a problem and would pull in. Even so, I had a great time. The track is awesome and we got to hang around with FOT friends old and new. But it was really kool hanging around with the usual suspects as well as Dean Tetterton, John Harkness and some new faces like Mark Cook. It'll be fun to see some more TR6's on track in the coming years.
 
I manged to get down to a 2:20.8xx which was my target time. Henry Frye got into the 2:18's during the morning race on SAT. Speaking of which, had I not seen my temp problems, I probably would have had a a podium finish with the Group 3 race. I was in 2nd overall for the first 4 laps, I think. Too bad that video didn't come out. That said, even running a distant second, I was still racing on the same track as Denny Wilson.
 
At any rate, I posted a video from the Friday afternoon practice / qualifier: VIR Hot Laps <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mD2IbU0mcE>
 
<image004.png>
 

<image006.png>
<image007.png>
VIR Hot Laps
 
Check it out.
 
C ya,
Bob Lang
 
 
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sat Apr  6 12:54:44 2024
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 13:54:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
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Working with my dad (uncle jack) we considered 0.130 to 0.150 "normal" 
to mill, 0.190 to be where it started to get dangerous. That said, there 
is some variability from head to head on where the internal water 
passages are.

Regards, Tony

On 4/5/2024 6:27 AM, GREGORY THOMPSON via Fot wrote:
> Has anyone had an issue with breaking into a water jacket on the TR4A 
> head with taking off .150?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Greg Thompson
>
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Sat Apr  6 16:11:10 2024
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 15:11:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
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References: <2103629563.6201669.1712316459147.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I would agree with Tony.  Given that you never know if the casting of your head is thin at some location it is better to start on the conservative side.  Better to leave a little power for next time than ruin a head you have lots of work in.  I say this because there is far more power in the valves and porting than a .010 cut off the head for more compression.  Ken

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Tony Drews via Fot
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 1:50 PM
To: GREGORY THOMPSON; FOT Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 head milling

Working with my dad (uncle jack) we considered 0.130 to 0.150 "normal" to mill, 0.190 to be where it started to get dangerous.? That said, there is some variability from head to head on where the internal water passages are.
Regards, Tony
On 4/5/2024 6:27 AM, GREGORY THOMPSON via Fot wrote:
Has anyone had an issue with breaking into a water jacket on the TR4A head with taking off .150? 

Thank you,

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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Sat Apr  6 17:46:46 2024
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 16:46:46 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
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Just a comment or two from my archives:

According to Ken Gillanders, the stock head measures between 3.325 and 
3.330 from the valve cover gasket surface to the head gasket surface. So 
be sure to check the head height in case they head had previously been 
shaved. When the head casting was changed to include a diagonal flat 
section on the underside of the lower thermostat housing the thickness 
of metal between the bottom of the head and the internal water passages 
was increased. So I suggest not shaving the earlier heads with rounded 
lower thermostat housing beyond surfacing shaves.

> *From: *Tony Drews via Fot <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Saturday, April 6, 2024 1:50 PM
> *To: *GREGORY THOMPSON <mailto:thompsong at prodigy.net>; FOT Triumph 
> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Fot] TR4 head milling
>
> Working with my dad (uncle jack) we considered 0.130 to 0.150 "normal" 
> to mill, 0.190 to be where it started to get dangerous.? That said, 
> there is some variability from head to head on where the internal 
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Sun Apr  7 07:07:20 2024
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 13:07:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
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 Yes, a slight piston dome, I use around 6cc, eliminates the need to cut the head so much, & doesn't interfere w/flame travel/combustion.When you get down to around 3.150 thick, things get iffy...
Also when establishing CR, book recommendations are just that, general starting points; valve head type & seat depth affect chamber volume, so it's best to cut the head after all else has been established.
Glen Efinger

    On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 02:36:01 AM EDT, tr4 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I have never had to go that far.? The problem would be not the combustion chamber but the flat surface would be way too thin and collapse in short order.? You would be much better off with popping the piston or go with a slight done to get that level of compression.


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone

-------- Original message --------From: GREGORY THOMPSON via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 4/5/24 6:36 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling 
Has anyone had an issue with breaking into a water jacket on the TR4A head with taking off .150?
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Sun Apr  7 13:26:09 2024
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 19:26:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
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Some years back Kas came over. ?We studied heads. ?I cut a stock head on a band saw at different places. Kinda looked at it deeply. ?I mentioned that the only best way to get 14.5: 1 CR is to make the combustion chamber small and keep the thickness of the head stock. Utilizing flat top pistons. ?( he did not like pop ups).??
Easy to do once you weld up the combustion chamber and mill the chamber to a known volume. While at it make the intake runner better and sized right. ?Need custom length?longer?valves too.?
Made three of these?alum?heads. ?Alas the first one was unfortunately expendable - found out limits?what we could grind.

Oh? they are seriously light.?



Good stuff. ?


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From goodparts at verizon.net  Sun Apr  7 15:13:59 2024
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 21:13:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to Richard Good. Sponsor to the Sonoma Kastner Cup.
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I am honored to receive a nomination to the BSCHOF.
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 Thank you Richard, for your generous sponsorship.

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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Sun Apr  7 21:53:10 2024
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 21:53:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR4 head milling
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Yep, been there, done that. Combustion chambers too. Put a lot of weld in the exhaust valve pockets. It is not fun hand grinding cast iron but it was worth it, moths later. The thing really flows though. Added a bunch of aluminum to the intake and removed just as much. I never got it to flow as well as the head so went with dual DCOE?s. I did minimal milling and use pop up pistons to get my compression. 13.2:1.

Jim g

 

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mordy Dunst via Fot
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2024 1:26 PM
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 head milling

 

Some years back Kas came over.  We studied heads.  I cut a stock head on a band saw at different places. Kinda looked at it deeply.  I mentioned that the only best way to get 14.5: 1 CR is to make the combustion chamber small and keep the thickness of the head stock. Utilizing flat top pistons.  ( he did not like pop ups).  





Easy to do once you weld up the combustion chamber and mill the chamber to a known volume. While at it make the intake runner better and sized right.  Need custom length longer valves too. 





Made three of these alum heads.  Alas the first one was unfortunately expendable - found out limits what we could grind.









Oh? they are seriously light. 

















Good stuff.  





 

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Has anyone had an issue with breaking into a water jacket on the TR4A head with taking off .150?

 

Thank you,

 

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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Mon Apr  8 08:52:14 2024
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2024 10:52:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
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Another fantastic Wild Hare, we had what could only be described as 
perfect weather. Cool mornings warming up to quite comfortable in the 
afternoon, and zero rain at the track from Friday through Sunday! The 
Triumph turnout was quite impressive, and having old friends show up to 
say hi is always a treat.

I was looking forward to running with Bob but unfortunately that was not 
to be. Bob did a great job beating up on the competition at the pointy 
end of the field for me, so by the second feature race on Saturday 
afternoon I was gridded third behind Denny Wilson in his Lotus 7 and a 
very fast Elva Mark VI, and a fast Elva Courier and a Ginetta G4 behind 
me. As the top five cars were sitting on the grid, I had a Rodney 
Dangerfield moment. The four cars I could see were all being managed by 
race teams, with the flurry of activity of a bunch of guys fussing with 
the car and driver, and then there is me, all by myself, sitting in my 
lowly Triumph with nobody to even hold an umbrella. I got no respect...

Both Saturday feature races I finished second overall, and on Sunday's 
race I was third overall, only .05 seconds out of second place to of all 
things, a Lotus 23R who started from the back.

So, yeah, it was good weekend.

And thanks to everyone with VDCA for another great event!

Henry

-----Original Message-----
 From: Robert Lang
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024

Hi,

I had a super fun weekend at VIR for the Wild Hare. I developed a 
coolant leak that we couldn't track down at the track. I'd go about 5 
laps at full chat and then the cooling system would push enough coolant 
to get an air bubble and then I'd see the temp gauge indicating a 
problem and would pull in. Even so, I had a great time. The track is 
awesome and we got to hang around with FOT friends old and new. But it 
was really kool hanging around with the usual suspects as well as Dean 
Tetterton, John Harkness and some new faces like Mark Cook. It'll be fun 
to see some more TR6's on track in the coming years.

I manged to get down to a 2:20.8xx which was my target time. Henry Frye 
got into the 2:18's during the morning race on SAT. Speaking of which, 
had I not seen my temp problems, I probably would have had a a podium 
finish with the Group 3 race. I was in 2nd overall for the first 4 laps, 
I think. Too bad that video didn't come out. That said, even running a 
distant second, I was still racing on the same track as Denny Wilson.

At any rate, I posted a video from the Friday afternoon practice / 
qualifier:

VIR Hot Laps

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mD2IbU0mcE>

Check it out.

C ya,
Bob Lang



From tr3a58dean at gmail.com  Mon Apr  8 10:29:39 2024
From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean Tetterton)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 12:29:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
In-Reply-To: <8e725c6726c48bcbd427894eef4ee86b@tr4racer.com>
References: <8e725c6726c48bcbd427894eef4ee86b@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <CADK3t94wihukz5=H4E8o_7M3r6HTg2Z8_hnnd6y+EdBzGemKHA@mail.gmail.com>

Damn Henry, If I had known I would have put on my Texaco hat and gone up
and polished your visor.

Dean

On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 11:02?AM Henry Frye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Another fantastic Wild Hare, we had what could only be described as
> perfect weather. Cool mornings warming up to quite comfortable in the
> afternoon, and zero rain at the track from Friday through Sunday! The
> Triumph turnout was quite impressive, and having old friends show up to
> say hi is always a treat.
>
> I was looking forward to running with Bob but unfortunately that was not
> to be. Bob did a great job beating up on the competition at the pointy
> end of the field for me, so by the second feature race on Saturday
> afternoon I was gridded third behind Denny Wilson in his Lotus 7 and a
> very fast Elva Mark VI, and a fast Elva Courier and a Ginetta G4 behind
> me. As the top five cars were sitting on the grid, I had a Rodney
> Dangerfield moment. The four cars I could see were all being managed by
> race teams, with the flurry of activity of a bunch of guys fussing with
> the car and driver, and then there is me, all by myself, sitting in my
> lowly Triumph with nobody to even hold an umbrella. I got no respect...
>
> Both Saturday feature races I finished second overall, and on Sunday's
> race I was third overall, only .05 seconds out of second place to of all
> things, a Lotus 23R who started from the back.
>
> So, yeah, it was good weekend.
>
> And thanks to everyone with VDCA for another great event!
>
> Henry
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  From: Robert Lang
> Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
>
> Hi,
>
> I had a super fun weekend at VIR for the Wild Hare. I developed a
> coolant leak that we couldn't track down at the track. I'd go about 5
> laps at full chat and then the cooling system would push enough coolant
> to get an air bubble and then I'd see the temp gauge indicating a
> problem and would pull in. Even so, I had a great time. The track is
> awesome and we got to hang around with FOT friends old and new. But it
> was really kool hanging around with the usual suspects as well as Dean
> Tetterton, John Harkness and some new faces like Mark Cook. It'll be fun
> to see some more TR6's on track in the coming years.
>
> I manged to get down to a 2:20.8xx which was my target time. Henry Frye
> got into the 2:18's during the morning race on SAT. Speaking of which,
> had I not seen my temp problems, I probably would have had a a podium
> finish with the Group 3 race. I was in 2nd overall for the first 4 laps,
> I think. Too bad that video didn't come out. That said, even running a
> distant second, I was still racing on the same track as Denny Wilson.
>
> At any rate, I posted a video from the Friday afternoon practice /
> qualifier:
>
> VIR Hot Laps
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mD2IbU0mcE>
>
> Check it out.
>
> C ya,
> Bob Lang
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Mon Apr  8 10:39:42 2024
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 12:39:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
In-Reply-To: <8e725c6726c48bcbd427894eef4ee86b@tr4racer.com>
References: <8e725c6726c48bcbd427894eef4ee86b@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <F7A3091E-8F0D-4465-9A02-B74354969060@gmail.com>

Henry is spot-on!  Great Weekend, Great Track, Great Racing & Super Turnout of Triumphs!

VIR would be perfect for 2025 Kastner Cup!  Started dialog on interest in that possibility with the sanctioning body!

What do you all think about VIR for 2025 Kastner Cup?

Best, Terry 

> On Apr 8, 2024, at 10:59, Henry Frye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Another fantastic Wild Hare, we had what could only be described as perfect weather. Cool mornings warming up to quite comfortable in the afternoon, and zero rain at the track from Friday through Sunday! The Triumph turnout was quite impressive, and having old friends show up to say hi is always a treat.
> 
> I was looking forward to running with Bob but unfortunately that was not to be. Bob did a great job beating up on the competition at the pointy end of the field for me, so by the second feature race on Saturday afternoon I was gridded third behind Denny Wilson in his Lotus 7 and a very fast Elva Mark VI, and a fast Elva Courier and a Ginetta G4 behind me. As the top five cars were sitting on the grid, I had a Rodney Dangerfield moment. The four cars I could see were all being managed by race teams, with the flurry of activity of a bunch of guys fussing with the car and driver, and then there is me, all by myself, sitting in my lowly Triumph with nobody to even hold an umbrella. I got no respect...
> 
> Both Saturday feature races I finished second overall, and on Sunday's race I was third overall, only .05 seconds out of second place to of all things, a Lotus 23R who started from the back.
> 
> So, yeah, it was good weekend.
> 
> And thanks to everyone with VDCA for another great event!
> 
> Henry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Lang
> Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I had a super fun weekend at VIR for the Wild Hare. I developed a coolant leak that we couldn't track down at the track. I'd go about 5 laps at full chat and then the cooling system would push enough coolant to get an air bubble and then I'd see the temp gauge indicating a problem and would pull in. Even so, I had a great time. The track is awesome and we got to hang around with FOT friends old and new. But it was really kool hanging around with the usual suspects as well as Dean Tetterton, John Harkness and some new faces like Mark Cook. It'll be fun to see some more TR6's on track in the coming years.
> 
> I manged to get down to a 2:20.8xx which was my target time. Henry Frye got into the 2:18's during the morning race on SAT. Speaking of which, had I not seen my temp problems, I probably would have had a a podium finish with the Group 3 race. I was in 2nd overall for the first 4 laps, I think. Too bad that video didn't come out. That said, even running a distant second, I was still racing on the same track as Denny Wilson.
> 
> At any rate, I posted a video from the Friday afternoon practice / qualifier:
> 
> VIR Hot Laps
> 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mD2IbU0mcE>
> 
> Check it out.
> 
> C ya,
> Bob Lang
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
> 
> http://www.fot-racing.com
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Apr  8 11:49:02 2024
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 07:49:02 -1000
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
In-Reply-To: <F7A3091E-8F0D-4465-9A02-B74354969060@gmail.com>
References: <8e725c6726c48bcbd427894eef4ee86b@tr4racer.com>
 <F7A3091E-8F0D-4465-9A02-B74354969060@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D771CB08-48D6-4AFD-8FC5-2C2EF6471E67@ponostyle.com>

Henry, Henry have you learned nothing? You ALWAYS need a hot umbrella girl. It distracts the other drivers and is worth at least a few seconds a lap. You can recruit one from the pits if you didn?t remember to bring one. 

Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On Apr 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Henry is spot-on!  Great Weekend, Great Track, Great Racing & Super Turnout of Triumphs!
> 
> VIR would be perfect for 2025 Kastner Cup!  Started dialog on interest in that possibility with the sanctioning body!
> 
> What do you all think about VIR for 2025 Kastner Cup?
> 
> Best, Terry 
> 
>> On Apr 8, 2024, at 10:59, Henry Frye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Another fantastic Wild Hare, we had what could only be described as perfect weather. Cool mornings warming up to quite comfortable in the afternoon, and zero rain at the track from Friday through Sunday! The Triumph turnout was quite impressive, and having old friends show up to say hi is always a treat.
>> 
>> I was looking forward to running with Bob but unfortunately that was not to be. Bob did a great job beating up on the competition at the pointy end of the field for me, so by the second feature race on Saturday afternoon I was gridded third behind Denny Wilson in his Lotus 7 and a very fast Elva Mark VI, and a fast Elva Courier and a Ginetta G4 behind me. As the top five cars were sitting on the grid, I had a Rodney Dangerfield moment. The four cars I could see were all being managed by race teams, with the flurry of activity of a bunch of guys fussing with the car and driver, and then there is me, all by myself, sitting in my lowly Triumph with nobody to even hold an umbrella. I got no respect...
>> 
>> Both Saturday feature races I finished second overall, and on Sunday's race I was third overall, only .05 seconds out of second place to of all things, a Lotus 23R who started from the back.
>> 
>> So, yeah, it was good weekend.
>> 
>> And thanks to everyone with VDCA for another great event!
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Lang
>> Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I had a super fun weekend at VIR for the Wild Hare. I developed a coolant leak that we couldn't track down at the track. I'd go about 5 laps at full chat and then the cooling system would push enough coolant to get an air bubble and then I'd see the temp gauge indicating a problem and would pull in. Even so, I had a great time. The track is awesome and we got to hang around with FOT friends old and new. But it was really kool hanging around with the usual suspects as well as Dean Tetterton, John Harkness and some new faces like Mark Cook. It'll be fun to see some more TR6's on track in the coming years.
>> 
>> I manged to get down to a 2:20.8xx which was my target time. Henry Frye got into the 2:18's during the morning race on SAT. Speaking of which, had I not seen my temp problems, I probably would have had a a podium finish with the Group 3 race. I was in 2nd overall for the first 4 laps, I think. Too bad that video didn't come out. That said, even running a distant second, I was still racing on the same track as Denny Wilson.
>> 
>> At any rate, I posted a video from the Friday afternoon practice / qualifier:
>> 
>> VIR Hot Laps
>> 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mD2IbU0mcE>
>> 
>> Check it out.
>> 
>> C ya,
>> Bob Lang
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Tue Apr  9 08:45:40 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 10:45:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024 (Kastner Cup 2025?)
Message-ID: <001201da8a8c$9849d140$c8dd73c0$@mindspring.com>

All,

For those that did not have an opportunity to meet Paul Morro at VIR during the Wild Hare Run, would like to add him to the FOT group.  Paul is currently VP of the Triumph Club of the Carolinas (based in Raleigh, NC).  He used to race his TR6 in the past, but now works on them for other Triumph enthusiast.  Also, he is very involved in other aspects of racing which he could better elaborate and share.

Paul is currently involved with a project to bring a support race over from the UK to the US for Operation Motorsport (https://operationmotorsport.org/).   I mentioned the possibility of the Kastner Cup being run at VIR, and he is very interested in helping with that effort as much as possible.

Would appreciate adding Paul to the list.

Thanks,

Mark Cook



-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry Sopher via Fot
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2024 12:40 PM
To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024

Henry is spot-on!  Great Weekend, Great Track, Great Racing & Super Turnout of Triumphs!

VIR would be perfect for 2025 Kastner Cup!  Started dialog on interest in that possibility with the sanctioning body!

What do you all think about VIR for 2025 Kastner Cup?

Best, Terry 

> On Apr 8, 2024, at 10:59, Henry Frye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Another fantastic Wild Hare, we had what could only be described as perfect weather. Cool mornings warming up to quite comfortable in the afternoon, and zero rain at the track from Friday through Sunday! The Triumph turnout was quite impressive, and having old friends show up to say hi is always a treat.
> 
> I was looking forward to running with Bob but unfortunately that was not to be. Bob did a great job beating up on the competition at the pointy end of the field for me, so by the second feature race on Saturday afternoon I was gridded third behind Denny Wilson in his Lotus 7 and a very fast Elva Mark VI, and a fast Elva Courier and a Ginetta G4 behind me. As the top five cars were sitting on the grid, I had a Rodney Dangerfield moment. The four cars I could see were all being managed by race teams, with the flurry of activity of a bunch of guys fussing with the car and driver, and then there is me, all by myself, sitting in my lowly Triumph with nobody to even hold an umbrella. I got no respect...
> 
> Both Saturday feature races I finished second overall, and on Sunday's race I was third overall, only .05 seconds out of second place to of all things, a Lotus 23R who started from the back.
> 
> So, yeah, it was good weekend.
> 
> And thanks to everyone with VDCA for another great event!
> 
> Henry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Lang
> Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I had a super fun weekend at VIR for the Wild Hare. I developed a coolant leak that we couldn't track down at the track. I'd go about 5 laps at full chat and then the cooling system would push enough coolant to get an air bubble and then I'd see the temp gauge indicating a problem and would pull in. Even so, I had a great time. The track is awesome and we got to hang around with FOT friends old and new. But it was really kool hanging around with the usual suspects as well as Dean Tetterton, John Harkness and some new faces like Mark Cook. It'll be fun to see some more TR6's on track in the coming years.
> 
> I manged to get down to a 2:20.8xx which was my target time. Henry Frye got into the 2:18's during the morning race on SAT. Speaking of which, had I not seen my temp problems, I probably would have had a a podium finish with the Group 3 race. I was in 2nd overall for the first 4 laps, I think. Too bad that video didn't come out. That said, even running a distant second, I was still racing on the same track as Denny Wilson.
> 
> At any rate, I posted a video from the Friday afternoon practice / qualifier:
> 
> VIR Hot Laps
> 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mD2IbU0mcE>
> 
> Check it out.
> 
> C ya,
> Bob Lang
> 
> 
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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Sun Apr  7 05:48:49 2024
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (john.r.davies@btinternet.com john.r.davies@btinternet.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 12:48:49 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Fot] Quick Catch Up
Message-ID: <579612c8.4cb4.18eb863c2d2.Webtop.96@btinternet.com>


Sorry to bother you, are you avaiIabIe on emaiI for a few minutes? Can't 
caII

Thanks
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Apr  9 16:25:17 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 16:25:17 -0600
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare 2024 (Kastner Cup 2025?)
In-Reply-To: <001201da8a8c$9849d140$c8dd73c0$@mindspring.com>
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Okay, Paul Morrow is now on the list.

mjb.


From jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com  Thu Apr 11 16:08:55 2024
From: jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com (Gerald Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 22:08:55 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Please add Tom Podmore to the FOT
Message-ID: <PH8PR17MB687290978424C27A2FB69A54F6052@PH8PR17MB6872.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

Tom is the new proud owner of #75 TR6. We know it as a replica of Paul Newman's 1976 SCCA Runoffs national championship car. Built by legendary Sam Halkias (2009 national champion) for Paul, who passed before completion.

Please welcome Tom to the FOT. It happens that he and I live in the same town Hudson, Ohio

Thanks

Jerry Van Vlack
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu Apr 11 16:33:30 2024
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:33:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Please add Tom Podmore to the FOT
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Great!  We are honoring Sam Halkias at the next Kastner Cup.  He is on the Poster and we should see that he gets a poster.

Regards,
Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
ARE  LLC
Gasketinnovations.com
Email: N197tr4 at cs.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Apr 11, 2024, at 5:25?PM, Gerald Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Tom is the new proud owner of #75 TR6. We know it as a replica of Paul Newman's 1976 SCCA Runoffs national championship car. Built by legendary Sam Halkias (2009 national champion) for Paul, who passed before completion.
> 
> Please welcome Tom to the FOT. It happens that he and I live in the same town Hudson, Ohio
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jerry Van Vlack
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From tbpodmore3 at aol.com  Thu Apr 11 16:56:44 2024
From: tbpodmore3 at aol.com (tbpodmore3)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 18:56:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Please add Tom Podmore to the FOT
In-Reply-To: <B9363B7B-ED5E-40F3-AD74-8E336DF7DCEA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1861297805.7068432.1712876214864@aol.com>

Thank you! Wish the event was closer? to home this year. Oh well.Sent from my smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> Date: 4/11/24  6:33 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Gerald Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com>, fot at autox.team.net Cc: Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>, tbpodmore3 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Please add Tom Podmore to the FOT Great! ?We are honoring Sam Halkias at the next Kastner Cup. ?He is on the Poster and we should see that he gets a poster.Regards,Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613ARE ?LLCGasketinnovations.comEmail: N197tr4 at cs.comCell: ?319.464.4711On Apr 11, 2024, at 5:25?PM, Gerald Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:?





Tom is the
new proud owner of #75 TR6. We know it as a replica of Paul Newman's 1976 SCCA Runoffs
 national championship car. Built by legendary Sam Halkias (2009 national champion) for Paul, who passed before completion.




Please welcome Tom to the FOT. It happens that he and I live in the same town Hudson, Ohio




Thanks




Jerry Van Vlack


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From fmccjr at aol.com  Fri Apr 12 09:50:22 2024
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:50:22 +0000 (UTC)
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Here I come! See you all at the track on Thursday.
I fed the squirrels this year. ?

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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Fri Apr 12 12:41:50 2024
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 11:41:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Update on Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <2101989792.149156.1712947310200@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,
 
This is an update on the Kastner Cup at Sonoma Raceway starting on Thursday, April 18th through Sunday, April, April 21.
 
We have 16 cars signed up at this time.  The Kastner Cup will have its own race group throughout the weekend, with two feature races; the traditional Saturday Kastner Cup race followed by the awards, then the Kastner Cup Reunion race on Sunday, just after the lunch break.  Triumphs will be placed in the hot pits for a "Fanwalk" during lunch on Sunday.
 
I've attached the entry list, plus the current race weekend schedule.  On Thursday, cars will run by run group as noted on their registration (vs. a Kastner Cup group).
 
Thanks to Gasket Works LLC, Moss, Good Parts, The Vintage Triumph Register, and the Triumph Wedge Owners Assoc. for providing sponsorships.  In-kind sponsors include Huffaker Motorsports, Classic Motor Films, Gasket Innovations, and of course North America Triumphs.  We couldn't make this race happen without them!
 
I would also like to thank Kastner Cup Race Committee members Joe Alexander, Mark Alexander, Henry Frye, John Linney, Jeff Eichenfield and Gary Kincel, and our Grand Marshal Hardy Prentice.
 
Hope to see to there! 
 
Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Fri Apr 12 20:12:04 2024
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:12:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can
Message-ID: <7F618E7F-3ABF-4601-9284-4FD40C7B499D@optonline.net>

Amici

What are you TR3-4 guys doing for an oil catch can?  My 1qt plastic bottle wire tied to the chassis isn?t cutting it any more.  

Thanks
Todd

From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Fri Apr 12 21:18:30 2024
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can
Message-ID: <64331.1712978310@mitchelplumbing.com>

You can see mine in the lower left corner, tech one time told me it wasn't big enough, I took it out and showed them the 1 quart designation on the can. My car had this originally in
'85, I just updated with new can.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

On Fri 12/04/24  7:12 PM , Alfetta95 via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent:
> Amici
> 
> What are you TR3-4 guys doing for an oil catch can?  My 1qt plastic bottle
> wire tied to the chassis isn?t cutting it any more.  
> Thanks
> Todd
>

From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Fri Apr 12 21:37:07 2024
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 03:37:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can
In-Reply-To: <7F618E7F-3ABF-4601-9284-4FD40C7B499D@optonline.net>
References: <7F618E7F-3ABF-4601-9284-4FD40C7B499D@optonline.net>
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[image0.jpeg][image1.jpeg]
Couple of ? cans? I knocked out - think the vents came from speedway

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 12, 2024, at 7:22?PM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?Amici

What are you TR3-4 guys doing for an oil catch can?  My 1qt plastic bottle wire tied to the chassis isn?t cutting it any more.

Thanks
Todd
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 12 22:09:41 2024
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:09:41 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can
In-Reply-To: <7F618E7F-3ABF-4601-9284-4FD40C7B499D@optonline.net>
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Post WWII Moto Guzzi?s used (factory installed) olive oil tins as catch-cans. 
I just can not come up with a Brit equivalent to a olive oil tin. So I?m keeping with a ?1qt plastic bottle? - aka - empty 1qt oil jug ?. 
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM


> On Apr 12, 2024, at 8:12 PM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Amici
> 
> What are you TR3-4 guys doing for an oil catch can?  My 1qt plastic bottle wire tied to the chassis isn?t cutting it any more.  
> 
> Thanks
> Todd
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From agb at compsnw.com  Fri Apr 12 22:49:29 2024
From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 21:49:29 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can
In-Reply-To: <54633C88-5411-4C42-A2FD-415B1041D47B@yahoo.com>
References: <7F618E7F-3ABF-4601-9284-4FD40C7B499D@optonline.net>
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This aluminum catch can came with a crashed TR4 race car (#484) I 
purchased long ago.



On 4/12/2024 9:09 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot wrote:
> Post WWII Moto Guzzi?s used (factory installed) olive oil tins as catch-cans.
> I just can not come up with a Brit equivalent to a olive oil tin. So I?m keeping with a ?1qt plastic bottle? - aka - empty 1qt oil jug ?.
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> Albuquerque NM
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2024, at 8:12 PM, Alfetta95 via Fot<fot at autox.team.net>  wrote:
>>
>> ?Amici
>>
>> What are you TR3-4 guys doing for an oil catch can?  My 1qt plastic bottle wire tied to the chassis isn?t cutting it any more.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Todd
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Fri Apr 12 23:26:43 2024
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:26:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can
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Hello Todd,
I like size and shape of quart cans with the screw on caps from something like paint stripper or mineral spirits or something.  So, I made something similar with built-in mounting tabs and a coolant catch can to match in aluminum.  Although I made something custom, I still thing these commonly found cans would work nicely and it's fairly easy to find a place for them.  In the beginning I used two K&N filters, but after a couple weekend of racing they got oil soaked and stopped venting enough, so I removed the filters. 
Dave H. 
> On 04/12/2024 7:12 PM PDT Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> Amici
> 
> What are you TR3-4 guys doing for an oil catch can?  My 1qt plastic bottle wire tied to the chassis isn?t cutting it any more.  
> 
> Thanks
> Todd
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sat Apr 13 04:30:38 2024
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:30:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can
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When I bought Old Blue from Bill Dentinger he was quite proud of the 
fact the car was one of the most period correct vintage TR3's racing in 
the country. As you can see, Bill left the battery in the stock 
location, and it just so happens that a standard Group 24 battery in a 
TR3 battery tray leaves the perfect amount of room for a plastic jug 
that is used as the dump can both the engine and gearbox.

I realize everybody is posting pictures of beautiful, clean engine 
compartments, but these are honest pictures of what the business end of 
a race car looks like after being campaigned for well over 60 years.

And yes, the battery is still in the stock location, the fuel cell is 
still built into a stock fuel tank in the stock location, and yes, the 
weight transfer when tossing the car from side to side is, well, quite 
noticeable...

Henry

On 2024-04-12 22:12, Alfetta95 via Fot wrote:
> Amici
> 
> What are you TR3-4 guys doing for an oil catch can?  My 1qt plastic
> bottle wire tied to the chassis isn?t cutting it any more.
> 
> Thanks
> Todd
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Sat Apr 13 06:39:46 2024
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 12:39:46 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can
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I had Tony Garmey make me one that?s fits in the battery tray.


Thanks
Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Henry Frye via Fot
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2024 6:31 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can

When I bought Old Blue from Bill Dentinger he was quite proud of the fact the car was one of the most period correct vintage TR3's racing in the country. As you can see, Bill left the battery in the stock location, and it just so happens that a standard Group 24 battery in a
TR3 battery tray leaves the perfect amount of room for a plastic jug that is used as the dump can both the engine and gearbox.

I realize everybody is posting pictures of beautiful, clean engine compartments, but these are honest pictures of what the business end of a race car looks like after being campaigned for well over 60 years.

And yes, the battery is still in the stock location, the fuel cell is still built into a stock fuel tank in the stock location, and yes, the weight transfer when tossing the car from side to side is, well, quite noticeable...

Henry

On 2024-04-12 22:12, Alfetta95 via Fot wrote:
> Amici
> 
> What are you TR3-4 guys doing for an oil catch can?  My 1qt plastic 
> bottle wire tied to the chassis isn?t cutting it any more.
> 
> Thanks
> Todd
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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Sat Apr 13 06:47:34 2024
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:47:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Transmission Tailpiece replacement process
Message-ID: <BD39CC3E-42CC-41BF-80D3-1A5745500B89@comcast.net>

I?m finally getting ready to change my cracked tailpiece on my 63 spitfire race car.  My intention is to do this while engine and transmission are still in the car. Any reason to believe this can?t be done?

I?ll unbolt the drive shaft front coupler, and angle it down (as much as race exhaust in tunnel allows!). 

Loosen flange nut on output shaft. 

Put support under motor and transmission, then unbolt rubber transmission mounts and maybe steel support crossmember. 

Then fully remove flange nut from output shaft, and unbolt tailpiece from transmission. 

My concern is whether I?ll be able to slide the tailpiece back far enough into body transmission tunnel to clear the output shaft. 

I could make more room by removing the exhaust pipe and or tilting rear of motor down, but not sure what other clearance issues might arise. 

Trying to avoid overreaching my mechanical abilities!

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From steve at artwithcars.com  Sat Apr 13 13:09:31 2024
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 12:09:31 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Catch tanks
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Here?s what I?ve got in my TR3
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Sat Apr 13 13:27:59 2024
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 19:27:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] catch can
Message-ID: <SN7PR22MB383406A1320E092C90BCB9DC990B2@SN7PR22MB3834.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>


Here's our set up for oil and water tanks














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From peterkbulkowski at gmail.com  Sat Apr 13 13:57:11 2024
From: peterkbulkowski at gmail.com (Peter Bulkowski)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:57:11 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Blue TR8 number 88
Message-ID: <CAJHO_io7QotH51=peB=UZ98bvy9rtZzn8bFOyUVecCKhq+zBhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hallo FOT just like to let you the number 88 TR8 l build and raced with
Christian Marx from Germany has a new Home with Mike Deweer Owner of # 77
green Tr 4 and many more Triumphs
Mike I wish you all the best in near future to race all Triumph s
Cheers Peter
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Sat Apr 13 15:15:28 2024
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 21:15:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Transmission Tailpiece replacement process
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 Yeah it can be done, maybe with some difficulty drawing it away from the box, but when I've done it, it was on a car that has a section of the tunnel over the driveshaft notched for clearance so it comes out of the top.Better also check the driveshaft for out of balance, that's what kills them...
Glen Efinger

    On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 09:19:54 AM EDT, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I?m finally getting ready to change my cracked tailpiece on my 63 spitfire race car.? My intention is to do this while engine and transmission are still in the car. Any reason to believe this can?t be done?

I?ll unbolt the drive shaft front coupler, and angle it down (as much as race exhaust in tunnel allows!). 

Loosen flange nut on output shaft. 

Put support under motor and transmission, then unbolt rubber transmission mounts and maybe steel support crossmember. 

Then fully remove flange nut from output shaft, and unbolt tailpiece from transmission. 

My concern is whether I?ll be able to slide the tailpiece back far enough into body transmission tunnel to clear the output shaft. 

I could make more room by removing the exhaust pipe and or tilting rear of motor down, but not sure what other clearance issues might arise. 

Trying to avoid overreaching my mechanical abilities!



Jim


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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Sat Apr 13 16:26:40 2024
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:26:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Transmission Tailpiece replacement process
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Sat Apr 13 17:09:16 2024
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 23:09:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Transmission Tailpiece replacement process
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 Yes that's all it takes to be able to maneuver it around.Pretty impressive failure, especially w/a reinforced housing, but not that unusual; we broke 11 in one season in a National F-prod car I used to crew on, chasing d/s balance issues, I still have one in my track spares box!Glad it wet well, hopefully it doesn't become a habit...
Glen.

    On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 06:27:15 PM EDT, James Trudeau <jgtrudeau at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
 Thanks Glenn,?
I was able to do just as you suggested- and it looks like the tunnel had been notched about an inch to facilitate. I did have to jack the motor up and down to make room as I moved the housing into position, but I did it!
Humorous photo of how cracked the tailpiece was! I Aldo found that the lower right bolt head was sheared off - maybe from over tightening in the one shallow blind threaded hole. ?

All done, hopefully no more cracks?
Jim
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? Yeah it can be done, maybe with some difficulty drawing it away from the box, but when I've done it, it was on a car that has a section of the tunnel over the driveshaft notched for clearance so it comes out of the top.Better also check the driveshaft for out of balance, that's what kills them...
Glen Efinger

    On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 09:19:54 AM EDT, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I?m finally getting ready to change my cracked tailpiece on my 63 spitfire race car.? My intention is to do this while engine and transmission are still in the car. Any reason to believe this can?t be done?

I?ll unbolt the drive shaft front coupler, and angle it down (as much as race exhaust in tunnel allows!). 

Loosen flange nut on output shaft. 

Put support under motor and transmission, then unbolt rubber transmission mounts and maybe steel support crossmember. 

Then fully remove flange nut from output shaft, and unbolt tailpiece from transmission. 

My concern is whether I?ll be able to slide the tailpiece back far enough into body transmission tunnel to clear the output shaft. 

I could make more room by removing the exhaust pipe and or tilting rear of motor down, but not sure what other clearance issues might arise. 

Trying to avoid overreaching my mechanical abilities!



Jim


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From vfracing at aol.com  Sat Apr 13 17:33:51 2024
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 19:33:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] catch can
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Sat Apr 13 19:35:20 2024
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 01:35:20 +0000
Subject: [Fot] catch can
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Thanks Phil, the cowl is cut and held with 4 Duze 1/2 turn fasteners and all the wiring etc is under there easy to access and work on
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2024, at 7:34?PM, Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com> wrote:

?  Very clean under the hood, John. Nice!
Regards,
Phil
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 05:11:29 2024
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 07:11:29 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
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Not sure if this is good news..

Radial Equity Partners (?Radial?) today announced simultaneous investments
in Moss Motors (?Moss?) and Rimmer Bros (?Rimmer Bros?) to form a leading,
global specialty supplier of restoration & replacement parts focused on
British vehicle brands.

Press release
https://www.radialequity.com/news/moss-rimmer

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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Apr 14 05:32:50 2024
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 07:32:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
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Never a good sign when a company gets owned by or becomes a ?profit first? organization. That?s what happened to Boeing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 14, 2024, at 7:27?AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Not sure if this is good news..
> 
> Radial Equity Partners (?Radial?) today announced simultaneous investments in Moss Motors (?Moss?) and Rimmer Bros (?Rimmer Bros?) to form a leading, global specialty supplier of restoration & replacement parts focused on British vehicle brands.
> 
> Press release
> https://www.radialequity.com/news/moss-rimmer
> 
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Sun Apr 14 05:59:41 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 07:59:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
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Hard to know the outcome.? Usually, PE firms are all about cash flow.? I liked the differences Rimmer Bros brought to the table with Moss.??They are likely to first either eliminate Moss Europe or merge it into Rimmer.??Eventually, like the PE (Bertram Capital) did with BMW parts company ECSTuning, rolling up Turner Motorsport, Pelican Parts and Bavarian Autosport.? Pricing, inventory and platform are all the same, as is now lousy customer service.??It did help FCP Euro expand their business when customers became disenchanted with ECS.MarkSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 4/14/24  7:23 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: FoTTriumph <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm Not sure if this is good news..Radial Equity Partners (?Radial?) today announced simultaneous investments in Moss Motors (?Moss?) and Rimmer Bros (?Rimmer Bros?) to form a leading, global specialty supplier of restoration & replacement parts focused on British vehicle brands.Press releasehttps://www.radialequity.com/news/moss-rimmermike h
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From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Apr 14 07:08:01 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 07:08:01 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
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Yes, this could be a major decline in parts quality and customer service 
as it stands.

Now if The Roadster Factory bought Goodparts that would be some 
interesting news!  Or the other way around even.

mjb.


From terrysopher at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 07:09:48 2024
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:09:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
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Hopefully they will transition to original factory part numbers!

> On Apr 14, 2024, at 07:15, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Not sure if this is good news..
> 
> Radial Equity Partners (?Radial?) today announced simultaneous investments in Moss Motors (?Moss?) and Rimmer Bros (?Rimmer Bros?) to form a leading, global specialty supplier of restoration & replacement parts focused on British vehicle brands.
> 
> Press release
> https://www.radialequity.com/news/moss-rimmer
> 
> mike h
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Sun Apr 14 07:29:08 2024
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:29:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3 oil catch can
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Thank you all for your comments and pics. 

I now have a game plan.  

Todd

> On Apr 12, 2024, at 10:27?PM, Alfetta95 <alfetta95 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Amici
> 
> What are you TR3-4 guys doing for an oil catch can?  My 1qt plastic bottle wire tied to the chassis isn?t cutting it any more.  
> 
> Thanks
> Todd


From tony.sheach at live.co.uk  Sun Apr 14 07:40:04 2024
From: tony.sheach at live.co.uk (Tony Sheach)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 13:40:04 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
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All the more reason to support those small businesses that make and sell the best bits - lots of clever people out there who do care about quality and recognise that it also costs to do it well ?


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On 14 Apr 2024, at 14:21, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Yes, this could be a major decline in parts quality and customer service as it stands.

Now if The Roadster Factory bought Goodparts that would be some interesting news!  Or the other way around even.

mjb.

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From mecook at mindspring.com  Sun Apr 14 07:45:30 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:45:30 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
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Would be great to see The Roadster Factory get back on its feet.  They and
Goodparts bring different and strong offerings to our Triumphs, not to
mention, wonderful customer support by both.   I have especially appreciated
Richard Good's personal responses to my questions from time-to-time.

Also, have had good experiences with Racetorations and their owner, Darryl
Uprichard, in the UK for some specialized race bits.

Mark

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Yes, this could be a major decline in parts quality and customer service 
as it stands.

Now if The Roadster Factory bought Goodparts that would be some 
interesting news!  Or the other way around even.

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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Sun Apr 14 08:47:36 2024
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (R. John Lye)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 10:47:36 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
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That does not sound good at all to me.? Rather worrying, I would say.

John
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On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 07:11:29 -0400, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
?

Not sure if this is good news..

?
Radial Equity Partners (?Radial?) today announced simultaneous investments in Moss Motors (?Moss?) and Rimmer Bros (?Rimmer Bros?) to form a leading, global specialty supplier of restoration & replacement parts focused on British vehicle brands.

?

Press release

https://www.radialequity.com/news/moss-rimmer

?

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From lotusgagne at rogers.com  Sun Apr 14 11:09:38 2024
From: lotusgagne at rogers.com (CLAUDE GAGNE)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:09:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Blue TR8 number 88
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 Marvelous news! Mike is a great guy and a true Triumph aficionado and racer. Cheers!
Claude
    On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 04:15:47 p.m. EDT, Peter Bulkowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hallo FOT just like to let you the number 88 TR8 l build and raced with Christian Marx from Germany has a new Home with Mike Deweer Owner of # 77 green Tr 4 and many more TriumphsMike I wish you all the best in near future to race all Triumph s?Cheers Peter_______________________________________________
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From glswanson71 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 15:46:40 2024
From: glswanson71 at gmail.com (Gary Swanson)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:46:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
In-Reply-To: <1713106056.gbnaqm6cn4800coo@webmail.lumos.net>
References: <CAO0FjVbvbF5bGoc7_yULBG7usDUd8TEf_fMJyHVm7iUwE0gfPg@mail.gmail.com>
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My somewhat limited experience in the M&A industry says that the
consolidation of 2 significant players in a market can lead to better price
control by the acquirer.  Read that - higher pricing to the customer due to
reduced competition.  Hope I'm wrong...

On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 11:32?AM R. John Lye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> That does not sound good at all to me.  Rather worrying, I would say.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 07:11:29 -0400, Mike Harmuth via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Not sure if this is good news..
>
> Radial Equity Partners (?Radial?) today announced simultaneous investments
> in Moss Motors (?Moss?) and Rimmer Bros (?Rimmer Bros?) to form a leading,
> global specialty supplier of restoration & replacement parts focused on
> British vehicle brands.
>
> Press release
> https://www.radialequity.com/news/moss-rimmer
>
> mike h
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From 4msonset at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 16:52:42 2024
From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 15:52:42 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
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From glswanson71 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 05:56:51 2024
From: glswanson71 at gmail.com (Gary Swanson)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 07:56:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Moss and Rimmer Bros bought by equity firm
In-Reply-To: <6D1686A2-F4F2-41FC-80F5-4E54A706B677@gmail.com>
References: <CAAsC=-UhCSCS56e5X5n0ctrzFwQRQnQBq045y+nzmBhfsUzZOA@mail.gmail.com>
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J Wagner - I agree with your view about bringing added organizational
"heft" to the marketplace and should have mentioned that in my response.  I
certainly hope you are correct!

On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 6:52?PM J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bingo?   Yep?
>
> On the other hand, Radial may help bring some organizational and
> manufacturing prowess amongst their various enterprises.
>
> Portfolio ? Radial Equity Partners
>
> https://www.radialequity.com/portfolio
>
> But, yes, I?m definitely concerned about the greatly reduced competition
> especially given that the Roadster Factory has been hobbled.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2024, at 2:57?PM, Gary Swanson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> My somewhat limited experience in the M&A industry says that the
> consolidation of 2 significant players in a market can lead to better price
> control by the acquirer.  Read that - higher pricing to the customer due to
> reduced competition.  Hope I'm wrong...
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 11:32?AM R. John Lye via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> That does not sound good at all to me.  Rather worrying, I would say.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 07:11:29 -0400, Mike Harmuth via Fot <
>> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Not sure if this is good news..
>>
>> Radial Equity Partners (?Radial?) today announced simultaneous
>> investments in Moss Motors (?Moss?) and Rimmer Bros (?Rimmer Bros?) to form
>> a leading, global specialty supplier of restoration & replacement parts
>> focused on British vehicle brands.
>>
>> Press release
>> https://www.radialequity.com/news/moss-rimmer
>>
>> mike h
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 12:50:41 2024
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 14:50:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Child ear protection recommendations?
Message-ID: <CAG9YvYMkNsMdz++08ziRHT7HrjwkvwDiHOEvifr8HTF8sN-bow@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Friends
We have our 4 year old granddaughter coming with her folks to LimeRock June
1 to spectate us racing. I have plenty of ear plugs for her folks, but
would like to get something more advanced with better protection for those
young ears, plus I know loud things bother her. Any recommendations? I see
kids with the big muff type but never caught a brand or spoke to anyone
about them. Plus while I'm at ot my wife would like something better too.
Thanks and see you soon
Brian

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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue Apr 16 15:10:22 2024
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 17:10:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Child ear protection recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <CAG9YvYMkNsMdz++08ziRHT7HrjwkvwDiHOEvifr8HTF8sN-bow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG9YvYMkNsMdz++08ziRHT7HrjwkvwDiHOEvifr8HTF8sN-bow@mail.gmail.com>
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To ride along or at the track to spectate?
If the latter, the best protection is offered by earmuffs. You should look for close to 30  NRR reduction. Even more reduction with foam ear plugs underneath.  The basic red and black 3M muffs are pretty good and available at home improvement store.
If in the car, under a helmet, try foam earplugs with wax swimmer?s earplugs on top.
There are places that will sell you a mixed set of different foam earplugs so you can figure out which one fits your ear best, and then order them in bulk.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2024, at 2:54?PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> <GT6 WTGI.jpg>

From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 16 17:54:52 2024
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 23:54:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Child ear protection recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <CAG9YvYMkNsMdz++08ziRHT7HrjwkvwDiHOEvifr8HTF8sN-bow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG9YvYMkNsMdz++08ziRHT7HrjwkvwDiHOEvifr8HTF8sN-bow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1577613181.31878.1713311692738@mail.yahoo.com>

 My son has used Banz earmuffs from Amazon for his kids.? Most any earmuff will offer good protection and are easy to use, though they can be hot.? The higher the NRR number the better the protection.? Lots of options on Amazon.? Ear plugs are not a good option for kids, since they might not fit right and would be difficult to insert??JoeB
    On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 03:09:48 PM EDT, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hey FriendsWe have our 4 year old granddaughter coming with her folks to LimeRock June 1 to spectate us racing. I have plenty of ear plugs for her folks, but would like to get something more advanced with better protection for those young ears, plus I know loud things bother her. Any recommendations? I see kids with the big muff type but never caught a brand or spoke to anyone about them. Plus while I'm at ot my wife would like something better too.Thanks and see you soonBrian 

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From fintouch at ptd.net  Wed Apr 17 15:55:12 2024
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 17:55:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Good Parts delivery to Jeff 500
Message-ID: <2d5550b0-3c54-485a-a070-73b05dd350a9@ptd.net>

For anyone who is going to be at the VRG Jefferson 500 at Summit Point 
(May 16-19):? If you are thinking of, or planning to place an order with 
Good Parts in the near future and want to save the shipping costs, I 
would pick-up your order and bring it along to the race.

 ?If interested, send me an email at: fintouch at ptd.net.

Mike Kurtz
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From mark at efishers.com  Fri Apr 19 08:42:17 2024
From: mark at efishers.com (Mark Fisher)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:42:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a pair of rain tires near Chicago
References: <1508014813.1286250.1713537737706.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1508014813.1286250.1713537737706@mail.yahoo.com>

205/60 x13
Let me know. I figure if I buy and mount them, it won't rain at the MC or VSCDA schools... : )
Mark FisherMark at eFishers.com
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Apr 19 09:32:28 2024
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 15:32:28 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a pair of rain tires near Chicago
In-Reply-To: <1508014813.1286250.1713537737706@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1508014813.1286250.1713537737706.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Spec Racer Ford rear rains.  New W2 version is much better than the old H2O version.  If you?re willing to buy used, you can get them from John Berget, near Lake Geneva, WI (Williams Bay, I think).  The Council school weekend looks to be wet, according to the current forecast.

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Fisher via Fot
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 9:42 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a pair of rain tires near Chicago

205/60 x13

Let me know. I figure if I buy and mount them, it won't rain at the MC or VSCDA schools... : )

Mark Fisher
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 19 18:09:13 2024
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 20:09:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Child ear protection recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <1577613181.31878.1713311692738@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAG9YvYMkNsMdz++08ziRHT7HrjwkvwDiHOEvifr8HTF8sN-bow@mail.gmail.com>
 <1577613181.31878.1713311692738@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thanks Guys, got the Banz for our granddaughter and
ProCase for my wife and I.
Brian


On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 7:54?PM Joe Boruch <jaboruch at yahoo.com> wrote:

> My son has used Banz earmuffs from Amazon for his kids.  Most any earmuff
> will offer good protection and are easy to use, though they can be hot.
> The higher the NRR number the better the protection.  Lots of options on
> Amazon.  Ear plugs are not a good option for kids, since they might not fit
> right and would be difficult to insert
> JoeB
>
> On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 03:09:48 PM EDT, Brian Schirano via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Friends
> We have our 4 year old granddaughter coming with her folks to LimeRock
> June 1 to spectate us racing. I have plenty of ear plugs for her folks, but
> would like to get something more advanced with better protection for those
> young ears, plus I know loud things bother her. Any recommendations? I see
> kids with the big muff type but never caught a brand or spoke to anyone
> about them. Plus while I'm at ot my wife would like something better too.
> Thanks and see you soon
> Brian
>
> --
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> 585-305-0349
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 20 13:44:04 2024
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 19:44:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Question: Is There a Link to a Live Stream of the Kastner Cup?
References: <93173252.1705495.1713642244449.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <93173252.1705495.1713642244449@mail.yahoo.com>

I know the Kastner Cup is at 2:20 PDT, can anyone provide a link to the race?
I poked around on U-Toob and the "live" button doesn't seem to have anything regarding this weekend with SVRA and Sonoma.
I wish I was there, but things didn't pan out for me this time. Wishing everyone in the race clean FUN.
C ya,Bob Lang
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Sat Apr 20 14:36:33 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 16:36:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Question: Is There a Link to a Live Stream of the Kastner
 Cup?
In-Reply-To: <93173252.1705495.1713642244449@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <93173252.1705495.1713642244449.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <93173252.1705495.1713642244449@mail.yahoo.com>
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Bob,

 

I looked as well and all I found was last week?s SVRA / Speedtour videos.

 

Mark

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Lang via Fot
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 3:44 PM
To: FOT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] Question: Is There a Link to a Live Stream of the Kastner Cup?

 

I know the Kastner Cup is at 2:20 PDT, can anyone provide a link to the race?

 

I poked around on U-Toob and the "live" button doesn't seem to have anything regarding this weekend with SVRA and Sonoma.

 

I wish I was there, but things didn't pan out for me this time. Wishing everyone in the race clean FUN.

 

C ya,

Bob Lang

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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat Apr 20 15:31:17 2024
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 14:31:17 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup About to Start!
Message-ID: <ED28F57A-CC11-41E9-82A9-842245C82B3D@gmail.com>

It?s Kastner Cup time at Sonoma!!

Who?s on pole?

Who will win the race?

Who will win the Cup?

Stay tuned!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 20 16:03:19 2024
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:03:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup About to Start!
In-Reply-To: <ED28F57A-CC11-41E9-82A9-842245C82B3D@gmail.com>
References: <ED28F57A-CC11-41E9-82A9-842245C82B3D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <966640545.1743261.1713650599906@mail.yahoo.com>

 What happened to Will Hart??
I watched on Race Monitor and he fell off the charts.
rml

    On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 05:39:50 PM EDT, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 It?s Kastner Cup time at Sonoma!!

Who?s on pole?

Who will win the race?

Who will win the Cup?

Stay tuned!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone
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From bitishrm at comcast.net  Sat Apr 20 16:25:45 2024
From: bitishrm at comcast.net (RICHARD NORTH)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 15:25:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup About to Start!
In-Reply-To: <966640545.1743261.1713650599906@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <ED28F57A-CC11-41E9-82A9-842245C82B3D@gmail.com>
 <966640545.1743261.1713650599906@mail.yahoo.com>
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Good luck to everyone. I am going to see if I can find it on Youtube.

> On 04/20/2024 3:03 PM PDT Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> What happened to Will Hart??
>  
> I watched on Race Monitor and he fell off the charts.
>  
> rml
>  
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 05:39:50 PM EDT, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> It?s Kastner Cup time at Sonoma!!
>  
> Who?s on pole?
>  
> Who will win the race?
>  
> Who will win the Cup?
>  
> Stay tuned!
>  
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From thompsong at prodigy.net  Sat Apr 20 17:04:20 2024
From: thompsong at prodigy.net (GREGORY THOMPSON)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:04:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup About to Start!
In-Reply-To: <966640545.1743261.1713650599906@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <ED28F57A-CC11-41E9-82A9-842245C82B3D@gmail.com>
 <966640545.1743261.1713650599906@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <453774018.1743348.1713654260552@mail.yahoo.com>

Fuel pump.
Greg Thompson? 

    On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 03:12:59 PM PDT, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  What happened to Will Hart??
I watched on Race Monitor and he fell off the charts.
rml

    On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 05:39:50 PM EDT, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 It?s Kastner Cup time at Sonoma!!

Who?s on pole?

Who will win the race?

Who will win the Cup?

Stay tuned!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat Apr 20 17:37:01 2024
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 16:37:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] And the Winner is??
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Walt Hollowell, your race winner and Kastner Cup awardee!

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sat Apr 20 18:07:24 2024
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Congrats

mike h

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> Walt Hollowell, your race winner and Kastner Cup awardee!
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sat Apr 20 22:02:00 2024
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 21:02:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] And the Winner is??
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Well deserved.  Walt was flying in his TR6.  If I'm not mistaken, the last time the race winner and Cup winner, was Tony Garmey at Watkins Glen in 2008.  
Congratulation, Walt!
Dave H.
> On 04/20/2024 4:37 PM PDT Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Walt Hollowell, your race winner and Kastner Cup awardee!
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Apr 21 05:08:57 2024
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 07:08:57 -0400
Subject: [Fot] And the Winner is??
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Congratulations Walt, well done! Welcome to the club!!!

Here is some interesting triva, this is only the 6th time a 6 cylinder 
TR has come home with the cup, with 4 of them in the past 7 years!

Henry Frye
2025 Kastner Cup Co-Chair


On 2024-04-20 19:37, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> Walt Hollowell, your race winner and Kastner Cup awardee!

From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Apr 21 05:46:15 2024
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 07:46:15 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <479abdd981c1f30bce1466b3822b8531@tr4racer.com>

I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime 
Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills 
of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast 
vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip 
Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to 
the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.

The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer 
Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his 
right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul 
King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should 
remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I 
have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program 
for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was 
too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul 
managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, 
with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.

We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us 
at Lime Rock Park in 2025!

Henry Frye
2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair

From sjanzen at me.com  Sun Apr 21 10:58:52 2024
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 12:58:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Wow, that?s exciting news!  For those of you who have never driven it, Lime Rock is a hoot.  It?s short - 1.53 miles - but requires near constant attention.  Great altitude changes - the crest of the back hill is good for a little wheelspin, and a wild sideways ride if you are still trying to turn at the crest - and some good turns.  It?s not easy to master.  There?s always a better lap (at least for me).  For those who will say - ?festival event, not a lot of track time? I will say that a 20 minute session is routinely 15 and can be up to 18 laps - a really good time for me is 1:06, though I know Henry and Bob are faster. Track record, I think, is an IMSA GTP car at 43.1 seconds.  Anyway, you get  lot of laps, usually, so it doesn?t feel short.

Lime Rock is full of automotive eye candy, unlike any other east coast event, for sure.  I?ve been on track with a Maserati birdcage, raced wheel to wheel/traded places lap after lap with a 260 Cobra, sometimes there?s a preservation class - it?s amazing to see a driver in a prewar car going down the front straight at real speed, with one hand outside the car working the fuel pump.  Great place to spectate and lots of beautiful cars to look at that are just on display.

Looking forward to it!  Even my wife, who generally only comes to one event a year, says she will come for this one.

Side note - lodging is limited.  Make your lodging plans before you even register to race, if you can.

Scott Janzen
GT6

On Apr 21, 2024, at 7:46 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.

The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.

We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!

Henry Frye
2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Apr 21 11:15:05 2024
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 19:15:05 +0200
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Wow!
Cool. I feel tempted.

Cheers
Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 1:46 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup

I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock
Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of
Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage
racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked
us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?",
the cards just fell into place.

The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer
Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his
right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King.
Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his
yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working
closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now,
and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul
and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the
house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the
Alexanders, of course.

We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at
Lime Rock Park in 2025!

Henry Frye
2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 21 11:55:52 2024
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (kekjacobsen)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 10:55:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Message-ID: <1351710605.1784065.1713722161611@yahoo.com>

Dates???Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 4/21/24  10:02 AM  (GMT-08:00) To:  Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup Wow, that?s exciting news! ?For those of you who have never driven it, Lime Rock is a hoot. ?It?s short - 1.53 miles - but requires near constant attention. ?Great altitude changes - the crest of the back hill is good for a little wheelspin, and a wild sideways ride if you are still trying to turn at the crest - and some good turns. ?It?s not easy to master. ?There?s always a better lap (at least for me). ?For those who will say - ?festival event, not a lot of track time? I will say that a 20 minute session is routinely 15 and can be up to 18 laps - a really good time for me is 1:06, though I know Henry and Bob are faster. Track record, I think, is an IMSA GTP car at 43.1 seconds. ?Anyway, you get ?lot of laps, usually, so it doesn?t feel short.Lime Rock is full of automotive eye candy, unlike any other east coast event, for sure. ?I?ve been on track with a Maserati birdcage, raced wheel to wheel/traded places lap after lap with a 260 Cobra, sometimes there?s a preservation class - it?s amazing to see a driver in a prewar car going down the front straight at real speed, with one hand outside the car working the fuel pump. ?Great place to spectate and lots of beautiful cars to look at that are just on display.Looking forward to it! ?Even my wife, who generally only comes to one event a year, says she will come for this one.Side note - lodging is limited. ?Make your lodging plans before you even register to race, if you can.Scott JanzenGT6On Apr 21, 2024, at 7:46 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!Henry Frye2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Sun Apr 21 12:27:13 2024
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:27:13 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Remember they don't race on Sundays so for those who need to be back home on Monday , make plans accordingly



?
John H. Hasty
Of Counsel
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Marx via Fot
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 1:15 PM
To: 'yellow04' <yellow04 at tr4racer.com>; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup

Wow!
Cool. I feel tempted.

Cheers
Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 1:46 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup

I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.

The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King.
Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.

We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!

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From 17tcook17 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 21 12:32:10 2024
From: 17tcook17 at gmail.com (Tim Cook)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:32:10 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Yes!!!
Thanks,
Tim


> On Apr 21, 2024, at 2:01?PM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Wow!
> Cool. I feel tempted.
> 
> Cheers
> Chris
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 1:46 PM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
> 
> I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock
> Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of
> Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage
> racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked
> us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?",
> the cards just fell into place.
> 
> The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer
> Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his
> right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King.
> Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his
> yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working
> closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now,
> and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul
> and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the
> house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the
> Alexanders, of course.
> 
> We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at
> Lime Rock Park in 2025!
> 
> Henry Frye
> 2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sun Apr 21 12:54:12 2024
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:54:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Labor Day weekend 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 21, 2024, at 2:41?PM, John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Remember they don't race on Sundays so for those who need to be back home on Monday , make plans accordingly
> 
> 
> 
>  
> John H. Hasty
> Of Counsel
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> 301 S. York St.,
> P.O. Box 488
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> 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f)
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>  
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Marx via Fot
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 1:15 PM
> To: 'yellow04' <yellow04 at tr4racer.com>; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
> 
> Wow!
> Cool. I feel tempted.
> 
> Cheers
> Chris
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 1:46 PM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
> 
> I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.
> 
> The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King.
> Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.
> 
> We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!
> 
> Henry Frye
> 2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 21 12:56:29 2024
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:56:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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 I'm not 100% certain, but figure August 28, 2025 through September 1, 2025. Labor Day 2025 is September 1st.

No racing on Sunday, but a killer car show Sunday at the track and there's usually a race car trip from the track to downtown Falls Village on one of the evenings, probably THU but maybe FRI. The info on that will be in the registration info.

Lime Rock is a magical place. There is a lot of history there. Check out the video: Lime Rock Park: The Secret Valley of Racing here: Lime Rock Park: The Secret Valley of Racing (CLASSICS REMASTERED) - January 11, 2002

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Scott's correct regarding staying anywhere near the track that weekend, you have to plan well in advance if you want to stay anywhere within 30 minutes of the track. But I'm sure Henry and Paul will give us lots of information in the coming weeks and months.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 02:21:47 PM EDT, kekjacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Dates???


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-------- Original message --------From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 4/21/24 10:02 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup 
Wow, that?s exciting news! ?For those of you who have never driven it, Lime Rock is a hoot. ?It?s short - 1.53 miles - but requires near constant attention. ?Great altitude changes - the crest of the back hill is good for a little wheelspin, and a wild sideways ride if you are still trying to turn at the crest - and some good turns. ?It?s not easy to master. ?There?s always a better lap (at least for me). ?For those who will say - ?festival event, not a lot of track time? I will say that a 20 minute session is routinely 15 and can be up to 18 laps - a really good time for me is 1:06, though I know Henry and Bob are faster. Track record, I think, is an IMSA GTP car at 43.1 seconds. ?Anyway, you get ?lot of laps, usually, so it doesn?t feel short.
Lime Rock is full of automotive eye candy, unlike any other east coast event, for sure. ?I?ve been on track with a Maserati birdcage, raced wheel to wheel/traded places lap after lap with a 260 Cobra, sometimes there?s a preservation class - it?s amazing to see a driver in a prewar car going down the front straight at real speed, with one hand outside the car working the fuel pump. ?Great place to spectate and lots of beautiful cars to look at that are just on display.
Looking forward to it! ?Even my wife, who generally only comes to one event a year, says she will come for this one.
Side note - lodging is limited. ?Make your lodging plans before you even register to race, if you can.
Scott JanzenGT6

On Apr 21, 2024, at 7:46 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.

The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.

We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!

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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 21 14:14:46 2024
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Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Thank you all!? I don't know if Jake and I will make that race, but we met there, working for Skip in the inaugural season of the Pro Series ....? we lived next to the track.? I was the first female Skip hired to work outside the office the year before when I worked with Henry Morrison at Road America (my home town) for Skip's Ford Series.? ?- I was affectionately known as "The Parts Tart"? that was in 1985-1986....what memories!!?Karen Menne-Jacobsen?#44 TR6Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 4/21/24  12:30 PM  (GMT-08:00) To:  Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup Labor Day weekend Sent from my iPhone> On Apr 21, 2024, at 2:41?PM, John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:> > ?Remember they don't race on Sundays so for those who need to be back home on Monday , make plans accordingly> > > >? > John H. Hasty> Of Counsel> Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.> 301 S. York St.,> P.O. Box 488> Gastonia, NC 28053> 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f)> mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com>? >? > > > -----Original Message-----> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Marx via Fot> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 1:15 PM> To: 'yellow04' <yellow04 at tr4racer.com>; fot at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup> > Wow!> Cool. I feel tempted.> > Cheers> Chris> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 1:46 PM> To: fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup> > I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.> > The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King.> Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.> > We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!> > Henry Frye> 2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair> _______________________________________________> fot at autox.team.net> > http://www.fot-racing.com> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot> Unsubscribe/Manage:> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com> > > _______________________________________________> fot at autox.team.net> > http://www.fot-racing.com> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com> > > _______________________________________________> fot at autox.team.net> > http://www.fot-racing.com> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com> > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com
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Can't wait. Grew up at Lime Rock and got my start in racing there.

Regarding  accommodations,  in Sharon and immediately around the track the selection is sparse. Danbury is about a 30 minute drive south down Rt 7 and has plenty of offerings. Lenox, MA about 20 minutes north up Rt 7 also has numerous opportunities.

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I'm not 100% certain, but figure August 28, 2025 through September 1, 2025. Labor Day 2025 is September 1st.

No racing on Sunday, but a killer car show Sunday at the track and there's usually a race car trip from the track to downtown Falls Village on one of the evenings, probably THU but maybe FRI. The info on that will be in the registration info.

Lime Rock is a magical place. There is a lot of history there. Check out the video: Lime Rock Park: The Secret Valley of Racing here: Lime Rock Park: The Secret Valley of Racing (CLASSICS REMASTERED) - January 11, 2002<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwBw8s7e9b0>

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Scott's correct regarding staying anywhere near the track that weekend, you have to plan well in advance if you want to stay anywhere within 30 minutes of the track. But I'm sure Henry and Paul will give us lots of information in the coming weeks and months.

Regards,
Bob Lang

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Dates???



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Subject: Re: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup

Wow, that?s exciting news!  For those of you who have never driven it, Lime Rock is a hoot.  It?s short - 1.53 miles - but requires near constant attention.  Great altitude changes - the crest of the back hill is good for a little wheelspin, and a wild sideways ride if you are still trying to turn at the crest - and some good turns.  It?s not easy to master.  There?s always a better lap (at least for me).  For those who will say - ?festival event, not a lot of track time? I will say that a 20 minute session is routinely 15 and can be up to 18 laps - a really good time for me is 1:06, though I know Henry and Bob are faster. Track record, I think, is an IMSA GTP car at 43.1 seconds.  Anyway, you get  lot of laps, usually, so it doesn?t feel short.

Lime Rock is full of automotive eye candy, unlike any other east coast event, for sure.  I?ve been on track with a Maserati birdcage, raced wheel to wheel/traded places lap after lap with a 260 Cobra, sometimes there?s a preservation class - it?s amazing to see a driver in a prewar car going down the front straight at real speed, with one hand outside the car working the fuel pump.  Great place to spectate and lots of beautiful cars to look at that are just on display.

Looking forward to it!  Even my wife, who generally only comes to one event a year, says she will come for this one.

Side note - lodging is limited.  Make your lodging plans before you even register to race, if you can.

Scott Janzen
GT6

On Apr 21, 2024, at 7:46 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.

The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.

We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!

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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Sun Apr 21 16:01:42 2024
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:01:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Great News Henry!



> On Apr 21, 2024, at 07:50, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.
> 
> The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.
> 
> We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!
> 
> Henry Frye
> 2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Apr 21 16:45:39 2024
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:45:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Thanks Scott for the kind words on the event. It is a unique experience 
in so many ways, and it should be a very cool race weekend to run the 
Kastner Cup.

Sure, we have tons of information to get out, but Labor Day 2025 is 17 
months out. We are going to get everybody up to speed in due course, 
here are some highlights.

As John Hasty mentioned, the track does not allow race motors to be run 
on Sundays. So no racing on Sunday, and while I originally thought that 
was a detriment to having a Kastner Cup, the more I thought about it, 
the more I realized this is a fantastic opportunity to really get some 
quality time to spend with our FOT friends. The track holds a huge car 
show during the day on Sunday, and yes, we are invited to have our race 
cars towed down to the front straight and have them front and center for 
the car show festivities. Not required, but some may enjoy that. We are 
working on our plan for Sunday, stay tuned! Racing resumes on Monday, 
Labor Day.

We have no doubt we will have enough cars to have our own run group, all 
Triumphs will run together all weekend. Triumphs will be the Featured 
Race Group, not to be confused with the Featured Marque. More on that 
later as well.

As Scott said, Lime Rock is a pretty unique road racing course. I am 
borrowing some words from Lime Rock's website about the track:

"Connecticut?s Lime Rock Park holds a place in the trinity of legendary 
road racing circuits in North America. Wisconsin?s Road America ? opened 
in 1955 ? along with California?s Laguna Seca and Lime Rock, both opened 
in 1957, are among the oldest continuously operated road racing circuits 
in the U.S. However, only Lime Rock?s circuit remains exactly the same 
as when it opened in spring of that year.

At once historic and modern without a hint of a grandstand, Lime Rock 
Park is fan friendly in the extreme. A beautiful park in the truest 
sense, even those who are not motorsports fans appreciate what Lime Rock 
Park has to offer.

It?s place in motor racing history began with the race which forever 
changed the face of the sport in America; The 1959 Formula Libre event. 
The best pros and the best amateurs in the best cars went head-to-head 
in a three-heat format. Thanks in equal part to its major media coverage 
and the startling result ? Indy 500 winner Roger Ward won the contest in 
a midget, besting F1 cars and world championship sports cars ? the 
Formula Libre weekend knocked down the walls that had separated 
professional road racing drivers from their amateur brethren.

Almost all of the sport?s greats have raced here, from that industry 
changing Formula Libre race through the SCCA hay days of the 1960s, 70s 
and 80s in Can-Am, F5000, Trans-Am and Atlantic as well as the Camel GTP 
and ALMS championships. From the mid-1990s onward, Lime Rock has seen 
everything from ground-pounding NASCAR stockers and modifieds to the 
technological tour de force IMSA prototypes.

Lime Rock is 1.50 miles of up hill and down dale, a track that looks 
deceivingly simple, but is immensely challenging to drive quickly. Its 
setting is a village in Connecticut?s Litchfield County, renowned for 
its vast historical, cultural and recreational resources.

Under Skip Barber?s stewardship, Lime Rock has been serviced by two 
major, multimillion-dollar renovations.

The first was in 2008, when the track surface was repaved in its 
entirety, and a number of safety elements were brought to the latest 
standards. Crucially, the project was engineered specifically so as to 
not change any aspect of its original track design and layout; by Skip?s 
demand, the same tricky cambers, the same widely variable track widths 
and the same sinuous radii were precisely preserved. If a driver from 
1957 were somehow time-machined into the future and plunked down onto 
Lime Rock today, they would find no difference in the racing line. The 
braking, turn-in, apex and track-out points a driver experiences today 
are the exact same as those Mario Andretti or Dan Gurney and dozens of 
other legends navigated back in the day. The 2008 project was a 
remarkable accomplishment and today it makes Lime Rock unique among its 
North American peers.

The second major renovation got underway in late 2014 ? the Road to 60 
Project. With this phase, Lime Rock Park now benefits from all-new, 
fully paved paddocks, gardens, ponds and landscaping, spectator areas, 
walkways and amenities.

In other words, thanks to the 2008 work (for the competitors) and 
today?s Road to 60 Project (for the fans), Lime Rock is totally the 
same. And totally different.

Welcome to the ?new? old Lime Rock Park."
~~~

If you have never run Lime Rock, and are planning on coming next year to 
make a strong showing for the Cup, the track does offer a test day on 
Tuesday before the Festival. Or, better yet, run this year's Festival as 
practice. Or, the Empire Cup in early June. My experience has shown me a 
fast lap at Lime Rock does not come quickly or easily! My last tidbit 
for the day, here is a good track talk...

https://limerock.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/LapofLRP_TurnByTurn.pdf

Cheers

Henry Frye
2025 Kastner Cup Co-Chair

On 2024-04-21 12:58, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
> Wow, that?s exciting news!  For those of you who have never driven
> it, Lime Rock is a hoot.  It?s short - 1.53 miles - but requires
> near constant attention.  Great altitude changes - the crest of the
> back hill is good for a little wheelspin, and a wild sideways ride if
> you are still trying to turn at the crest - and some good turns.
> It?s not easy to master.  There?s always a better lap (at least
> for me).  For those who will say - ?festival event, not a lot of
> track time? I will say that a 20 minute session is routinely 15 and
> can be up to 18 laps - a really good time for me is 1:06, though I
> know Henry and Bob are faster. Track record, I think, is an IMSA GTP
> car at 43.1 seconds.  Anyway, you get  lot of laps, usually, so it
> doesn?t feel short.
> 
> Lime Rock is full of automotive eye candy, unlike any other east coast
> event, for sure.  I?ve been on track with a Maserati birdcage, raced
> wheel to wheel/traded places lap after lap with a 260 Cobra, sometimes
> there?s a preservation class - it?s amazing to see a driver in a
> prewar car going down the front straight at real speed, with one hand
> outside the car working the fuel pump.  Great place to spectate and
> lots of beautiful cars to look at that are just on display.
> 
> Looking forward to it!  Even my wife, who generally only comes to one
> event a year, says she will come for this one.
> 
> Side note - lodging is limited.  Make your lodging plans before you
> even register to race, if you can.
> 
> Scott Janzen
> GT6
> 
> On Apr 21, 2024, at 7:46 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> 
> I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime
> Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest
> hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East
> Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day
> weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your
> Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.
> 
> The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage
> Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots,
> and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event
> chair Paul King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east
> should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years
> or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver
> Development program for several years now, and we realized this
> aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will
> co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and
> I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the
> Alexanders, of course.
> 
> We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with
> us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!
> 
> Henry Frye
> 2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair

From kenandtweety at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 21 16:50:43 2024
From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 22:50:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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 This is exciting news! Even though I aged out for racing I may trailer my TR 3A there to watch the racing and place it in the Sunday show. Some of you know I owned Don Bricks TR 4 a short while, last racing it at the 2017 Kastner Cut at Blackhawk. Also some of you know I raced my 1961 Mini for 25 years. My two most fun tracks to race Tweety Bird across the US and once at Mosport are Grattan and Lime Rock Park. Lime Rock being the last two years I raced and what a hoot in a small car. Yes you do get wheel spin cresting the big hill then stay on it and see how much nerve you have for the down hill curve to the Sam Posey Straight.

    On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 12:04:09 PM CDT, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Wow, that?s exciting news! ?For those of you who have never driven it, Lime Rock is a hoot. ?It?s short - 1.53 miles - but requires near constant attention. ?Great altitude changes - the crest of the back hill is good for a little wheelspin, and a wild sideways ride if you are still trying to turn at the crest - and some good turns. ?It?s not easy to master. ?There?s always a better lap (at least for me). ?For those who will say - ?festival event, not a lot of track time? I will say that a 20 minute session is routinely 15 and can be up to 18 laps - a really good time for me is 1:06, though I know Henry and Bob are faster. Track record, I think, is an IMSA GTP car at 43.1 seconds. ?Anyway, you get ?lot of laps, usually, so it doesn?t feel short.
Lime Rock is full of automotive eye candy, unlike any other east coast event, for sure. ?I?ve been on track with a Maserati birdcage, raced wheel to wheel/traded places lap after lap with a 260 Cobra, sometimes there?s a preservation class - it?s amazing to see a driver in a prewar car going down the front straight at real speed, with one hand outside the car working the fuel pump. ?Great place to spectate and lots of beautiful cars to look at that are just on display.
Looking forward to it! ?Even my wife, who generally only comes to one event a year, says she will come for this one.
Side note - lodging is limited. ?Make your lodging plans before you even register to race, if you can.
Scott JanzenGT6

On Apr 21, 2024, at 7:46 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.

The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side, with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.

We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us at Lime Rock Park in 2025!

Henry Frye
2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Apr 21 17:55:27 2024
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 19:55:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Mon Apr 22 05:37:17 2024
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:37:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Ken,

It would be fantastic if you could make it to Lime Rock next year for 
the Kastner Cup, even without a race car! There will always be space to 
set up your stuff in the FOT paddock!!!

I fully expect a rather large showing of Triumph street cars and Triumph 
people, the fact that one of my other gigs at the moment is heading up 
New England Triumphs does give us decent access to a rather large group 
of enthusiasts. ;-)

We are working on getting Triumph street car parking close to the B 
Paddock where Triumph Central will be set up.

Thanks to everyone for all the encouraging words I have been getting. 
Turns out Lime Rock is a bucket list track for a lot of FOT and the 
excitement is building!

Henry Frye
President ? New England Triumphs
2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair

On 2024-04-21 18:50, Ken Suhre via Fot wrote:
> This is exciting news! Even though I aged out for racing I may trailer
> my TR 3A there to watch the racing and place it in the Sunday show.
> Some of you know I owned Don Bricks TR 4 a short while, last racing it
> at the 2017 Kastner Cut at Blackhawk. Also some of you know I raced my
> 1961 Mini for 25 years. My two most fun tracks to race Tweety Bird
> across the US and once at Mosport are Grattan and Lime Rock Park. Lime
> Rock being the last two years I raced and what a hoot in a small car.
> Yes you do get wheel spin cresting the big hill then stay on it and
> see how much nerve you have for the down hill curve to the Sam Posey
> Straight.
> .com

From ofracer at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 06:08:32 2024
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 08:08:32 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Hi Henry, my car club, Brits of the Hudson, were excited to hear about the
event as well. I have them out to Lime Rock every June for some paced laps
during the HRG/Empire Club/VSCCA event. I'm sure we'll be working something
out with them for the Cup weekend.

FYI Henry, your Triumphs are invited to come to Lime Rock this year,
Saturday June 1st at noon, to join us for some free lunch laps with the
Brits club. Contact me off list for details.

thanks
mike h

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 7:52?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Ken,
>
> It would be fantastic if you could make it to Lime Rock next year for
> the Kastner Cup, even without a race car! There will always be space to
> set up your stuff in the FOT paddock!!!
>
> I fully expect a rather large showing of Triumph street cars and Triumph
> people, the fact that one of my other gigs at the moment is heading up
> New England Triumphs does give us decent access to a rather large group
> of enthusiasts. ;-)
>
> We are working on getting Triumph street car parking close to the B
> Paddock where Triumph Central will be set up.
>
> Thanks to everyone for all the encouraging words I have been getting.
> Turns out Lime Rock is a bucket list track for a lot of FOT and the
> excitement is building!
>
> Henry Frye
> President ? New England Triumphs
> 2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair
>
> On 2024-04-21 18:50, Ken Suhre via Fot wrote:
> > This is exciting news! Even though I aged out for racing I may trailer
> > my TR 3A there to watch the racing and place it in the Sunday show.
> > Some of you know I owned Don Bricks TR 4 a short while, last racing it
> > at the 2017 Kastner Cut at Blackhawk. Also some of you know I raced my
> > 1961 Mini for 25 years. My two most fun tracks to race Tweety Bird
> > across the US and once at Mosport are Grattan and Lime Rock Park. Lime
> > Rock being the last two years I raced and what a hoot in a small car.
> > Yes you do get wheel spin cresting the big hill then stay on it and
> > see how much nerve you have for the down hill curve to the Sam Posey
> > Straight.
> > .com
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 22 08:59:51 2024
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 08:59:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] And the Winner is??
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Huge congratulations Walt! Proud of you bringing that big cup home to New Mexico.
One more bit of trivia that relates to Hardy (Mr. E-type tow car) presenting the cup to Walt is that for a few years Walt faithfully drove his TR6 racer to the track (and around town) - and if I?m not mistaken - sometimes towing a little trailer with his race supplies.
Good for you Walt!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

> On Apr 21, 2024, at 5:10 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Congratulations Walt, well done! Welcome to the club!!!
> 
> Here is some interesting triva, this is only the 6th time a 6 cylinder TR has come home with the cup, with 4 of them in the past 7 years!
> 
> Henry Frye
> 2025 Kastner Cup Co-Chair
> 
> 
>> On 2024-04-20 19:37, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
>> Walt Hollowell, your race winner and Kastner Cup awardee!
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Apr 22 09:20:02 2024
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 12:40:55 2024
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:40:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Amici,

Here is the website link to this year's event. You can get the flavor of
what to expect. I was at this event a few years back. It's an amazing
place.

Lodging is definitely a challenge so book early.

https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival-42/


*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*




On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 4:49?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime
> Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills
> of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast
> vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip
> Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to
> the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.
>
> The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer
> Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his
> right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul
> King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should
> remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I
> have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program
> for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was
> too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul
> managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side,
> with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.
>
> We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us
> at Lime Rock Park in 2025!
>
> Henry Frye
> 2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 13:07:07 2024
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:07:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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Fan video of last year's festival with MG as the featured marque.

https://youtu.be/i49nrpspASQ

mike h

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 2:53?PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici,
>
> Here is the website link to this year's event. You can get the flavor of
> what to expect. I was at this event a few years back. It's an amazing
> place.
>
> Lodging is definitely a challenge so book early.
>
> https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival-42/
>
>
> *Brad Eells*
> *Chino CA*
> *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
> *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
> *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 4:49?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I am pleased to announce the 2025 Kastner Cup will be run at the Lime
>> Rock Historic Festival, at Lime Rock Park, in the scenic northwest hills
>> of Connecticut. The Historic Festival is one of the premier East Coast
>> vintage racing events, and takes place over the Labor Day weekend. Skip
>> Barber asked us "When are you guys going to bring your Kastner Cup to
>> the Historics?", the cards just fell into place.
>>
>> The event is put on by the track, and is co-sanctioned by Vintage Racer
>> Group (VRG) and VSCCA. Track owner Skip Barber calls the shots, and his
>> right-hand man through the whole process is the VRG event chair Paul
>> King. Paul is also a FOT member, those of you from the east should
>> remember his yellow GT6 running events over the past 20 years or so. I
>> have been working closely with Paul on VRG's Driver Development program
>> for several years now, and we realized this aligning of the stars was
>> too perfect to pass up. Paul and I will co-chair the event with Paul
>> managing the track side of the house, and I will manage the FOT side,
>> with help from Curt Johnston and the Alexanders, of course.
>>
>> We hope everyone will mark their calendars now and plan on being with us
>> at Lime Rock Park in 2025!
>>
>> Henry Frye
>> 2025 Kastner Cup Co-chair
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Apr 22 14:06:56 2024
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp at rogers.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:06:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bill Hart  Attn: Devin Go cart
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There is a Devin fiberglas bodied go cart for sale at the link

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/944770258869583/permalink/7901777929835413/?sale_post_id=7901777929835413 <https://www.facebook.com/groups/944770258869583/permalink/7901777929835413/?sale_post_id=7901777929835413&mibextid=W9rl1R> &mibextid=W9rl1R  

 

Original 1956 ?Bill Devin junior Deluxe? go kart.

This is EXTREMELY RARE!! Especially to be complete with chassis. 

These were made as a ?side gig? by Devin sports cars in the 1950s to encourage interest in their sports car bodies. 

It was gifted to the original Calgary owner (a late family friend) at the age of 7 in 1959 (seen in the black and white photo) by his uncle who worked for Bill Devin, building sports car bodies in the late 50s and early 60s. 

It is in unrestored and untouched condition awaiting restoration, or to be left as-is to preserve its history. 

A restored Devin jr. Deluxe sold at Bonhams auctions for just shy of $15,000usd and I am unaware of any other example that have gone to auction or been sold with a full chassis since. 

Included is the complete body and chassis as pictured, an original set of loose tires, recreation acrylic wind screen, original 1950s Devin sales flyers and advertisements, the original black and white 1959 photograph, as well as a short written history of the original owner. 

-This is best suited to a collector or restorer. Given its rarity and history, it?s not really a kids toy

Asking $4600

-Located in Airdrie Alberta

-403*464*1 five five five

Not interested in trades.

 

 

 

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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Mon Apr 22 14:43:50 2024
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:43:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Sonoma
Message-ID: z0W0rAoaNuv6Xz0W1rxCWz@eig-obgw-6004a.ext.cloudfilter.net

Thanks to all my FOT friends and racers at Sonoma this past weekend. I had a wonderful time and am honored to have been presented the Kastner Cup trophy,.especially since I was forced to take all of 2023 off of racing due to a serious injury.?I looked at my GoPro footage last night and have great video of the Sunday race where Curt Johnston lead the first 6 laps before I made my pass stick at corner 11. I'll compose a video and share it soon once I get home.Thanks Everyone,?Walter Hollowell?Albuquerque,? New Mexico?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Wed Apr 24 07:50:39 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 09:50:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
Message-ID: <001d01da964e$64624bf0$2d26e3d0$@mindspring.com>

Anyone know anything about this car?  I am in discussions with them.

 

https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar

 

https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.htm
l

 

-Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
-5 Speed trans conversion
-Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
-Triple Weber carbs
-Aluminum radiator
-Oil cooler
-16 inch Panasport racing wheels
-Transponder
-Limited slip differential
-Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
-Koni adjustable shocks
-Front and rear oversize sway bars
The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Mark Cook

 

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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Apr 24 08:16:32 2024
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 14:16:32 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
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References: <001d01da964e$64624bf0$2d26e3d0$@mindspring.com>
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I know that if it's ag Northshore Sportscars it's dramatically overpriced!  :-)

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Cook via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 8:51 AM
To: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??

Anyone know anything about this car?  I am in discussions with them.

https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar

https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.html

-Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
-5 Speed trans conversion
-Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
-Triple Weber carbs
-Aluminum radiator
-Oil cooler
-16 inch Panasport racing wheels
-Transponder
-Limited slip differential
-Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
-Koni adjustable shocks
-Front and rear oversize sway bars
The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.


Thanks,

Mark Cook

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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Wed Apr 24 08:26:06 2024
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (charly at mitchelplumbing.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:26:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
In-Reply-To: <001d01da964e$64624bf0$2d26e3d0$@mindspring.com>
References: <001d01da964e$64624bf0$2d26e3d0$@mindspring.com>
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I've never seen that one or the name on the door, Maybe some Eastcoast
members might recognize it,

There is also this one available.

 

https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/buy-sell-and-trade-forum.5/1969-tr6-racecar
.2039041.2039088/

 

Charly Mitchel

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Cook via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:51 AM
To: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??

 

Anyone know anything about this car?  I am in discussions with them.

 

https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar

 

https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.htm
l

 

-Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
-5 Speed trans conversion
-Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
-Triple Weber carbs
-Aluminum radiator
-Oil cooler
-16 inch Panasport racing wheels
-Transponder
-Limited slip differential
-Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
-Koni adjustable shocks
-Front and rear oversize sway bars
The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Mark Cook

 

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From chip at theukmotorsports.com  Wed Apr 24 08:32:18 2024
From: chip at theukmotorsports.com (Chip Collingwood)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:32:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
In-Reply-To: <001d01da964e$64624bf0$2d26e3d0$@mindspring.com>
References: <001d01da964e$64624bf0$2d26e3d0$@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <CABEZ9eHi1WMa0H8F2BfTe7xd436xe0=85UbFEjON+6QNx6vVqw@mail.gmail.com>

the blocks under the rollbar look like a shear possibility.

Chip Collingwood
theukmotorsports.com
(804) 564-1839


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:10?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Anyone know anything about this car?  I am in discussions with them.
>
>
>
> https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar
>
>
>
>
> https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.html
>
>
>
> -Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
> -5 Speed trans conversion
> -Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
> -Triple Weber carbs
> -Aluminum radiator
> -Oil cooler
> -16 inch Panasport racing wheels
> -Transponder
> -Limited slip differential
> -Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
> -Koni adjustable shocks
> -Front and rear oversize sway bars
> The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Mark Cook
>
>
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> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Apr 24 09:06:19 2024
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 11:06:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] K Cup 2024 fan video
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVYiYZaD-Kn4DRqo6OR5DqLHGMqsZs0rVv__s4jhfeSqog@mail.gmail.com>

A couple of clips have started to show up on YouTube. Looks like fun, well
done guys.

Saturday
https://youtu.be/jodEUJgOVRw

Sunday
https://youtu.be/L_IXZFQReAo

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From dave at microworks.net  Wed Apr 24 09:54:07 2024
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 15:54:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Great shot of the rear end in the air.
Message-ID: <SN7PR14MB704326518F0FECDD0AE7DF29B5102@SN7PR14MB7043.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Another Photographer got this shot.


I wish it was flat, that way I could easily slide/drift through a corner. But you have to learn to drive around what you have. It is a pretty fine edge to corner hard so as to not go from a bit of understeer to snap oversteer. I may isolate an example of video of that fine edge and snap oversteer in that corner.  We did mount a camera for one session focusing on an inside rear wheel. I'll add that to that bit of video too.


[May be an image of car and text that says 'MexTan ???? esca ? DICHBRANDT O??? BRANDT MOTORE WALNU CREE CALIF CALI ?? SNC53 d? Visors Down Motorsports Photography']
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Apr 24 10:07:56 2024
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 12:07:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
In-Reply-To: <006101da9653$593d6a20$0bb83e60$@mitchelplumbing.com>
References: <006101da9653$593d6a20$0bb83e60$@mitchelplumbing.com>
Message-ID: <8FEBFA32-22E3-4608-A6CC-1C0113161A43@me.com>

That?s a well prepped, fast car. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2024, at 10:59?AM, Charly Mitchel via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I?ve never seen that one or the name on the door, Maybe some Eastcoast members might recognize it,
> There is also this one available.
>  
> https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/buy-sell-and-trade-forum.5/1969-tr6-racecar.2039041.2039088/
>  
> Charly Mitchel
>  
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Cook via Fot
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:51 AM
> To: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
>  
> Anyone know anything about this car?  I am in discussions with them.
>  
> https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar
>  
> https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.html
>  
> -Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
> -5 Speed trans conversion
> -Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
> -Triple Weber carbs
> -Aluminum radiator
> -Oil cooler
> -16 inch Panasport racing wheels
> -Transponder
> -Limited slip differential
> -Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
> -Koni adjustable shocks
> -Front and rear oversize sway bars
> The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Mark Cook
>  
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> 
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Wed Apr 24 10:15:33 2024
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (charly at mitchelplumbing.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 09:15:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
In-Reply-To: <CABEZ9eHi1WMa0H8F2BfTe7xd436xe0=85UbFEjON+6QNx6vVqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001d01da964e$64624bf0$2d26e3d0$@mindspring.com>
 <CABEZ9eHi1WMa0H8F2BfTe7xd436xe0=85UbFEjON+6QNx6vVqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <011001da9662$a4616a60$ed243f20$@mitchelplumbing.com>

I agree, I noticed the attachment looked kinda weird.  Mine bolts directly to the chassis on the side rails.  I don?t know what there is to bolt to in that location, maybe the crossmember for the diff mount?  Not the most desirable spot to mount.

Charly Mitchel

 



 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chip Collingwood via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 7:32 AM
To: Mark Cook <mecook at mindspring.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??

 

the blocks under the rollbar look like a shear possibility.

 

Chip Collingwood

 <http://theukmotorsports.com> theukmotorsports.com

(804) 564-1839

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:10?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Anyone know anything about this car?  I am in discussions with them.

 

https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar

 

https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.html

 

-Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
-5 Speed trans conversion
-Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
-Triple Weber carbs
-Aluminum radiator
-Oil cooler
-16 inch Panasport racing wheels
-Transponder
-Limited slip differential
-Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
-Koni adjustable shocks
-Front and rear oversize sway bars
The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Mark Cook

 

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 24 11:50:20 2024
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 12:50:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
In-Reply-To: <011001da9662$a4616a60$ed243f20$@mitchelplumbing.com>
References: <001d01da964e$64624bf0$2d26e3d0$@mindspring.com>
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On my old TR4A I wanted to keep the appearance of the rollbar structure so
that it looked the way it raced in period. I had heavy brackets made that
fit between the rear trailing arm brackets to create a place to bolt the
rear hoop. It landed right in the corner of the wheel well and b-post. I
had to weld tubes into the t-shirt frame member, the way they did it with
the trailing arms to make sure that the mounting bolts were safe, but it
worked. It also made more room for a taller driver.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:41?PM Charly Mitchel via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I agree, I noticed the attachment looked kinda weird.  Mine bolts directly
> to the chassis on the side rails.  I don?t know what there is to bolt to in
> that location, maybe the crossmember for the diff mount?  Not the most
> desirable spot to mount.
>
> Charly Mitchel
>
>
>
> [image: cc cp tr6 chassis with transport primer lh side 6495287]
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Chip Collingwood
> via Fot
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2024 7:32 AM
> *To:* Mark Cook <mecook at mindspring.com>
> *Cc:* Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
>
>
>
> the blocks under the rollbar look like a shear possibility.
>
>
>
> Chip Collingwood
>
> theukmotorsports.com
>
> (804) 564-1839
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:10?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Anyone know anything about this car?  I am in discussions with them.
>
>
>
> https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar
>
>
>
>
> https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.html
>
>
>
> -Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
> -5 Speed trans conversion
> -Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
> -Triple Weber carbs
> -Aluminum radiator
> -Oil cooler
> -16 inch Panasport racing wheels
> -Transponder
> -Limited slip differential
> -Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
> -Koni adjustable shocks
> -Front and rear oversize sway bars
> The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Mark Cook
>
>
>
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>
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Wed Apr 24 12:06:18 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 14:06:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
In-Reply-To: <011001da9662$a4616a60$ed243f20$@mitchelplumbing.com>
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All,

 

I really appreciate all the quick responses!  

 

Roll cage - I agree with all of you about the roll cage ? looks funky and would require replacement regardless

Fire system ? yes, Firecharger AFFF out dated and no longer acceptable at a lot of tracks, and would require replacement, recert at a minimum

 

I have sent a list of inquiries about tires, and expiration of the rest of the safety equipment (harnesses, fuel cell, seat etc). 

Half shafts/hubs ? same have inquired about the entire suspension and requested pictures

 

Sam Halkias motor is a definite plus ? agree, but am checking to see when it was built and last refresh.  Do not want to run into the same problems with my current project.

 

To answer an unanswered question, yes I recently purchased a race TR6.  Without getting into details, it has turned into a complete rebuild ? engine, cooling system, rear subframe and suspension, roll cage etc.  So, I needed a ride while I rebuild the current TR6.

 

Thanks again for all the feedback on this car and will keep you posted!

 

Regards,

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com [mailto:charly at mitchelplumbing.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 12:16 PM
To: 'Chip Collingwood'; 'Mark Cook'
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph Group Email'
Subject: RE: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??

 

I agree, I noticed the attachment looked kinda weird.  Mine bolts directly to the chassis on the side rails.  I don?t know what there is to bolt to in that location, maybe the crossmember for the diff mount?  Not the most desirable spot to mount.

Charly Mitchel

 

cc cp tr6 chassis with transport primer lh side 6495287

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chip Collingwood via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 7:32 AM
To: Mark Cook <mecook at mindspring.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??

 

the blocks under the rollbar look like a shear possibility.

 

Chip Collingwood

 <http://theukmotorsports.com> theukmotorsports.com

(804) 564-1839

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:10?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Anyone know anything about this car?  I am in discussions with them.

 

https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar

 

https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.html

 

-Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
-5 Speed trans conversion
-Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
-Triple Weber carbs
-Aluminum radiator
-Oil cooler
-16 inch Panasport racing wheels
-Transponder
-Limited slip differential
-Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
-Koni adjustable shocks
-Front and rear oversize sway bars
The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Mark Cook

 

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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 24 13:09:31 2024
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 19:09:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWu2S4UUkaAQ3+LbGs9ymWqaGtSEgyDh3iUysmnkPHxF-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001d01da964e$64624bf0$2d26e3d0$@mindspring.com>
 <CABEZ9eHi1WMa0H8F2BfTe7xd436xe0=85UbFEjON+6QNx6vVqw@mail.gmail.com>
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That appears to be an Autopower street roll bar that typically bolts to the sheet metal rear shelf. ?It?s been added to, and raised up I think, to be tall enough, as originally intended to go under the folding top. ? (I have one on my street car). ?This is pure speculation on my part of course. ?If?I were looking at it, I?d factor in cost for?a modern cage install. ?Seems nice on other points!
Just my perspective! ?Dave Gott

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, April 24, 2024, 2:29 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

On my old TR4A I wanted to keep the appearance of the rollbar structure so that it looked the way it raced in period. I had heavy brackets?made that fit between the rear trailing arm brackets to create a place to bolt the rear hoop. It landed right in the corner of the wheel well?and b-post. I had to weld tubes into the t-shirt frame member, the way they did it with the trailing arms to make sure that the mounting bolts were safe, but it worked. It also made more room for a taller driver.
Bob Kramer

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:41?PM Charly Mitchel via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I agree, I noticed the attachment looked kinda weird.? Mine bolts directly to the chassis on the side rails.? I don?t know what there is to bolt to in that location, maybe the crossmember for the diff mount?? Not the most desirable spot to mount.

Charly Mitchel

?



?

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chip Collingwood via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 7:32 AM
To: Mark Cook <mecook at mindspring.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??

?

the blocks under the rollbar look like a shear possibility.

?

Chip Collingwood

theukmotorsports.com

(804) 564-1839

?

?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:10?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Anyone know anything about this car?? I am in discussions with them.

?

https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar

?

https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.html

?

-Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
-5 Speed trans conversion
-Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
-Triple Weber carbs
-Aluminum radiator
-Oil cooler
-16 inch Panasport racing wheels
-Transponder
-Limited slip differential
-Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
-Koni adjustable shocks
-Front and rear oversize sway bars
The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.

?

?

Thanks,

?

Mark Cook

?

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From mecook at mindspring.com  Wed Apr 24 14:32:41 2024
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 16:32:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??
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Dave,

 

Thanks as well.  Agree with all, that the roll cage would require replacement.  I was able to take a close look at Bob Lang?s when he was at VIR recently, and like the workmanship on his cage.

 

Regards,

 

Mark

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Gott via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 3:10 PM
To: Bob Kramer; charly at mitchelplumbing.com
Cc: Friends of Triumph Group Email
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??

 

That appears to be an Autopower street roll bar that typically bolts to the sheet metal rear shelf.  It?s been added to, and raised up I think, to be tall enough, as originally intended to go under the folding top.   (I have one on my street car).  This is pure speculation on my part of course.  If I were looking at it, I?d factor in cost for a modern cage install.  Seems nice on other points!

 

Just my perspective!  

Dave Gott

 <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

 

On Wednesday, April 24, 2024, 2:29 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

On my old TR4A I wanted to keep the appearance of the rollbar structure so that it looked the way it raced in period. I had heavy brackets made that fit between the rear trailing arm brackets to create a place to bolt the rear hoop. It landed right in the corner of the wheel well and b-post. I had to weld tubes into the t-shirt frame member, the way they did it with the trailing arms to make sure that the mounting bolts were safe, but it worked. It also made more room for a taller driver.




Bob Kramer

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:41?PM Charly Mitchel via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I agree, I noticed the attachment looked kinda weird.  Mine bolts directly to the chassis on the side rails.  I don?t know what there is to bolt to in that location, maybe the crossmember for the diff mount?  Not the most desirable spot to mount.

Charly Mitchel

 

cc cp tr6 chassis with transport primer lh side 6495287

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chip Collingwood via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 7:32 AM
To: Mark Cook <mecook at mindspring.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1974 Triumph TR6 - Race Ready - $29,995 ??

 

the blocks under the rollbar look like a shear possibility.

 

Chip Collingwood

 <http://theukmotorsports.com> theukmotorsports.com

(804) 564-1839

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:10?AM Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Anyone know anything about this car?  I am in discussions with them.

 

https://www.northshoresportscars.com/product-page/1974-triumph-tr6-racecar

 

https://www.racingjunk.com/vintage/184551233/1974-triumph-tr6-race-ready.html

 

-Sam Halkias built motor with race cam and roller rockers
-5 Speed trans conversion
-Wilwood 4 wheel slotted disc brakes
-Triple Weber carbs
-Aluminum radiator
-Oil cooler
-16 inch Panasport racing wheels
-Transponder
-Limited slip differential
-Aluminum flywheel and harmonic balancer
-Koni adjustable shocks
-Front and rear oversize sway bars
The car comes with a VSCDA logbook.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Mark Cook

 

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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Wed Apr 24 14:37:30 2024
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (rocky spitfire4.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 20:37:30 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Great shot of the rear end in the air.
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I have a photo like that of my Spitfire at the Solo Nationals. One of my favorites because it is an exciting photo of what we do. However, it also illustrates doing it wrong be cause the reason I got that wheel-up attitude was I came into the corner too hot, braked too late and tried to do the turn at the same time. I have another photo of the same corner, different run, and the car is flat, all four wheels on the ground, and I?m accelerating out of the corner (and the run was a good 3 sec faster). ?

--Rocky Entriken

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dave Riddle via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 10:54 AM
To: FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Great shot of the rear end in the air.

Another Photographer got this shot.


I wish it was flat, that way I could easily slide/drift through a corner. But you have to learn to drive around what you have. It is a pretty fine edge to corner hard so as to not go from a bit of understeer to snap oversteer. I may isolate an example of video of that fine edge and snap oversteer in that corner.  We did mount a camera for one session focusing on an inside rear wheel. I'll add that to that bit of video too.



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From dave at microworks.net  Wed Apr 24 14:44:01 2024
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 20:44:01 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Great shot of the rear end in the air.
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With this car it always lifts the inside right rear. Maybe at an idle it wouldn't.

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Subject: RE: Great shot of the rear end in the air.


I have a photo like that of my Spitfire at the Solo Nationals. One of my favorites because it is an exciting photo of what we do. However, it also illustrates doing it wrong be cause the reason I got that wheel-up attitude was I came into the corner too hot, braked too late and tried to do the turn at the same time. I have another photo of the same corner, different run, and the car is flat, all four wheels on the ground, and I?m accelerating out of the corner (and the run was a good 3 sec faster). ?



--Rocky Entriken



From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dave Riddle via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 10:54 AM
To: FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Great shot of the rear end in the air.



Another Photographer got this shot.



I wish it was flat, that way I could easily slide/drift through a corner. But you have to learn to drive around what you have. It is a pretty fine edge to corner hard so as to not go from a bit of understeer to snap oversteer. I may isolate an example of video of that fine edge and snap oversteer in that corner.  We did mount a camera for one session focusing on an inside rear wheel. I'll add that to that bit of video too.



[May be an image of car and text that says 'MexTan ???? esca ? DICHBRANDT O??? BRANDT MOTORE WALNU CREE CALIF CALI ?? SNC53 d? Visors Down Motorsports Photography']
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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Wed Apr 24 15:22:46 2024
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (rocky spitfire4.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 21:22:46 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Great shot of the rear end in the air.
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Dave ? [?]  [?]
And that other photo I mentioned where I was doing it ?right?? Yeah, the picture is boring. [?]

From: Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 3:44 PM
To: rocky spitfire4.com <rocky at spitfire4.com>; FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Great shot of the rear end in the air.

With this car it always lifts the inside right rear. Maybe at an idle it wouldn't.

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From: rocky spitfire4.com <rocky at spitfire4.com<mailto:rocky at spitfire4.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:37:30 PM
To: Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net<mailto:dave at microworks.net>>; FOT (fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>) <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: RE: Great shot of the rear end in the air.


I have a photo like that of my Spitfire at the Solo Nationals. One of my favorites because it is an exciting photo of what we do. However, it also illustrates doing it wrong be cause the reason I got that wheel-up attitude was I came into the corner too hot, braked too late and tried to do the turn at the same time. I have another photo of the same corner, different run, and the car is flat, all four wheels on the ground, and I?m accelerating out of the corner (and the run was a good 3 sec faster). ?



--Rocky Entriken



From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Dave Riddle via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 10:54 AM
To: FOT (fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>) <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Fot] Great shot of the rear end in the air.



Another Photographer got this shot.



I wish it was flat, that way I could easily slide/drift through a corner. But you have to learn to drive around what you have. It is a pretty fine edge to corner hard so as to not go from a bit of understeer to snap oversteer. I may isolate an example of video of that fine edge and snap oversteer in that corner.  We did mount a camera for one session focusing on an inside rear wheel. I'll add that to that bit of video too.



[May be an image of car and text that says 'MexTan ???? esca ? DICHBRANDT O??? BRANDT MOTORE WALNU CREE CALIF CALI ?? SNC53 d? Visors Down Motorsports Photography']
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Apr 24 15:43:22 2024
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 17:43:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Great shot of the rear end in the air.
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I know what it's up to....
[image: fixed.jpg]

mike h

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 5:40?PM Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> With this car it always lifts the inside right rear. Maybe at an idle it
> wouldn't.
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device
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> *From:* rocky spitfire4.com <rocky at spitfire4.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:37:30 PM
> *To:* Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net>; FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <
> fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: Great shot of the rear end in the air.
>
>
> I have a photo like that of my Spitfire at the Solo Nationals. One of my
> favorites because it is an exciting photo of what we do. However, it also
> illustrates doing it wrong be cause the reason I got that wheel-up attitude
> was I came into the corner too hot, braked too late and tried to do the
> turn at the same time. I have another photo of the same corner, different
> run, and the car is flat, all four wheels on the ground, and I?m
> accelerating out of the corner (and the run was a good 3 sec faster). ?
>
>
>
> --Rocky Entriken
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Dave Riddle via
> Fot
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2024 10:54 AM
> *To:* FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Fot] Great shot of the rear end in the air.
>
>
>
> Another Photographer got this shot.
>
>
>
> I wish it was flat, that way I could easily slide/drift through a corner.
> But you have to learn to drive around what you have. It is a pretty fine
> edge to corner hard so as to not go from a bit of understeer to snap
> oversteer. I may isolate an example of video of that fine edge and snap
> oversteer in that corner.  We did mount a camera for one session focusing
> on an inside rear wheel. I'll add that to that bit of video too.
>
>
>
> [image: May be an image of car and text that says 'MexTan ???? esca ?
> DICHBRANDT O??? BRANDT MOTORE WALNU CREE CALIF CALI ?? SNC53 d? Visors Down
> Motorsports Photography']
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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Apr 24 19:40:33 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 19:40:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] At last!
Message-ID: <6792d0bd-3990-4ff6-9e52-e45b9fc78c6e@bradakis.com>

Well I finally made it home, about a day and a half later than I wanted. 
  But my car is running great now!  Too bad the trip to the Kastner Cup 
and back used up all my AAA service calls, and I spent well over 2 grand 
on it, but I happy to be home.

And only 4,827 new emails to deal wih at some later time.

Hope everyone else made it back home safely!

mjb.

From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Apr 24 20:06:07 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 20:06:07 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 2025 Kastner Cup
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If I attend, I will NOT be driving there!

mjb.


From walt at hot-tr6.com  Wed Apr 24 20:50:49 2024
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 20:50:49 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Sonoma
Message-ID: <03ce01da96bb$6167bc10$24373430$@hot-tr6.com>

I'm home safe. I have some super GoPro footage of the Sunday race between
Curt Johnston and myself which I have composed on RaceRender but for some
reason my YouTube account doesn't like the format. I'll reach out to a nerd
friend of mine tomorrow for help. I'll post it as soon as possible. 

Thanks Again to all my FOT buddies.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico

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From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Wed Apr 24 22:16:29 2024
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 23:16:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] At last!
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Two grand here, two grand there, pretty soon you are talking real money ?. (To paraphrase the late Senator Everett Dirksen). 

It was great to see ya again. 

Ken Gano
? date

> On Apr 24, 2024, at 9:01?PM, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Well I finally made it home, about a day and a half later than I wanted.  But my car is running great now!  Too bad the trip to the Kastner Cup and back used up all my AAA service calls, and I spent well over 2 grand on it, but I happy to be home.
> 
> And only 4,827 new emails to deal wih at some later time.
> 
> Hope everyone else made it back home safely!
> 
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From sonomascot at aol.com  Wed Apr 24 23:29:34 2024
From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 05:29:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nice KAS-Brophy / Group 44 article >
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 The legendary rivalry of Group 44 and Kastner-Brophy


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The legendary rivalry of Group 44 and Kastner-Brophy

Back in 1972, two teams?Group 44 and Kastner-Brophy?were tasked with turning the Triumph GT6 into a national champ.
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From dave at microworks.net  Thu Apr 25 08:56:44 2024
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 14:56:44 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Video of the BajaTR3 lifting it's inside rear wheel
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Compiled a short video of the BajaTR3 lifting the inside rear wheel at Sonoma's Turns 4, 7 and 11. The first portion of the video is from my helmet mounted camera during the Cup Race on Saturday showing how "gentle" it really is and nowhere near as dramatic as some photos and video taken by others would lead you to believe. Another portion of the video we had mounted a camera to the external side rail of the roll structure, during a Practice session, looking back at the wheel to watch it lift and land.

https://youtu.be/AiYYzS9oGYs



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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Apr 26 16:51:43 2024
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:51:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tony Video from Kastner Cup Reunion on Sunday @ Sonoma
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Here's the in-car video from Sunday's Kastner Cup Reunion race at 
Sonoma.? I got a front row seat to the battle for the lead between Curt 
and Walt.

Unfortunately I forgot to put in the cameras for Saturday's race so this 
is the only one from the weekend.

https://youtu.be/WYj8KemsOmQ

Cheers, Tony Drews



From walt at hot-tr6.com  Thu Apr 25 16:23:44 2024
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:23:44 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Sonoma Triumph Racecars April 21, 2024
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This video is from Walter Hollowell's TR6 GoPro

Curt Johnston and Tony Drews did a wonderful job. Weather was perfect and
the track was grippy.

 

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AlANnh_RdU4M7DYBrGojh7xiGIYA

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From jhassall at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 10:09:31 2024
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:09:31 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR4 competition front spring free length?
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Amci,

Does anyone happen to know the free length of the comp springs?  I am
making suspension calculations, for which this info would help immensely.

Thank you!
-- 
jim  W4BEA
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