[Fot] Frame paint

Fri Sep 29 13:18:30 MDT 2023

It is worse than just an allergic reaction, isocynates are a carcinogen 
and are not trapped by a  normal respirator. That is why a supplied air 
respirator is recommended. I've got one I'm trying to sell if anyone is 
interested.

I think I've used everything that has been recommended. I did powder 
coat on one project and decided I don't like it because it is so thick, 
e.g. any threads that get powder coated will have to be chased. If you 
want a satin finish, I'd just use epoxy primer. I also like 
polyurethanes (Dupont Imron or PPG Durethane) if you want a glossy 
finish. Those products are no longer available, but there are other 
polyurethane enamels.
  - Larry Young

On 9/29/2023 8:36 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote:
> This is good advice!!!
> I almost killed myself with I think Dupont Chroma 1 or some such in 
> 97, still get a reaction when I get a whiff of it.
> Now I use a 3M PAPR, even when mixing & cleaning up.
> And of course y'all know that no mask/filter system will work if one 
> has a lot of facial hair...
>
> Glen Efinger
>
> On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 01:36:56 AM EDT, Joe Boruch via Fot 
> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>
> Most of the two part urethane paints are hazardous like Imron.  The 
> hardener is isocyanate, which can cause severe allergic reactions when 
> inhaled.  Once allergic to it, a person can react to it with every 
> exposure. Isocyanate is the chemical that was responsible for the 
> deaths in the Bopal, India chemical disaster many years ago.  Be sure 
> to use a good tight fitting cartridge respirator when spraying these 
> urethanes, but I think most safety instructions say to use a supplied 
> air respirator.
>
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 07:23:56 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via 
> Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>
> Hi Joe.  When I bought the Imron for my car in 1980, the guy wouldn't 
> sell it to me unless I also bought the respirator he recommended! 
> Strong stuff.
>
> Jack
>
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:33:26 AM EDT, Joe Alexander 
> <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> In the 70s we were painting John Deere Tractors in DuPont Imron. What 
> wasn’t done by robots was done by painters in HazMat Suits.
>
> Joe Alexander
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>> On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot 
>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted 
>> the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron.  It was the most durable 
>> paint available at the time, and my experience reflected that.  The 
>> stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via 
>> Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>>
>> Grey will show cracks better than black.  POR is the first thing that 
>> came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.
>>
>> Cheers, Tony
>>
>> On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
>> I'd suggest POR 15.  Depending on the color, the number changes.  I 
>> think 15 is black.  Gray is something else, maybe 10.  Spray or brush 
>> on. I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans are 
>> perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about 
>> anywhere.  POR products might be a little more durable than 
>> Rustoleum.  If the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good 
>> start, but with POR I "think" you can skip the primer.
>> Dave H.
>> On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot 
>> <fot at autox.team.net> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi All.
>>   It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just 
>> wondering what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car 
>> frame ? It's already sand blasted if that matters..
>>  Thanks.  P.J.
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