From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Oct  1 05:53:51 2023
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2023 07:53:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FOT website
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Gee, thanks Brad. It's good to see my work is appreciated. 

Sounds like you are volunteering. 

On 2023-09-30 18:40, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:

> The FOT website has been sorely neglected for some time.
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  1 10:16:01 2023
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 16:16:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Frame paint
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 When I have something powder coated that has female threads in it, I screw a bolt into the threads before powder coating.? Protects the threads.
Jack

    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 10:17:07 PM EDT, Larry Young via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  It is worse than just an allergic reaction, isocynates are a carcinogen and are not trapped by a? normal respirator. That is why a supplied air respirator is recommended. I've got one I'm trying to sell if anyone is interested.
 
 I think I've used everything that has been recommended. I did powder coat on one project and decided I don't like it because it is so thick, e.g. any threads that get powder coated will have to be chased. If you want a satin finish, I'd just use epoxy primer. I also like polyurethanes (Dupont Imron or PPG Durethane) if you want a glossy finish. Those products are no longer available, but there are other polyurethane enamels.
 ?- Larry Young
 
 On 9/29/2023 8:36 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote:
  
 
 This is good advice!!!
  I almost killed myself with I think Dupont Chroma 1 or some such in 97, still get a reaction when I get a whiff of it. Now I use a 3M PAPR, even when mixing & cleaning up. And of course y'all know that no mask/filter system will work if one has a lot of facial hair... 
  Glen Efinger
  
      On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 01:36:56 AM EDT, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
  
      Most of the two part urethane paints are hazardous like Imron.? The hardener is isocyanate, which can cause severe allergic reactions when inhaled.? Once allergic to it, a person can react to it with every exposure.? Isocyanate is the chemical that was responsible for the deaths in the Bopal, India chemical disaster many years ago.? Be sure to use a good tight fitting cartridge respirator when spraying these urethanes, but I think most safety instructions say to use a supplied air respirator.?? 
       On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 07:23:56 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
  
      Hi Joe.? When I bought the Imron for my car in 1980, the guy wouldn't sell it to me unless I also bought the respirator he recommended!? Strong stuff. 
  Jack
  
       On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:33:26 AM EDT, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:  
  
    In the 70s we were painting John Deere Tractors in DuPont Imron. What wasn?t done by robots was done by painters in HazMat Suits.
 
 Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: ?319.464.4711 
    
 
On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 
 
   
  ?  I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron.? It was the most durable paint available at the time, and my experience reflected that.? The stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator. 
  Jack
  
      On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
  
     
Grey will show cracks better than black.? POR is the first thing that came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.
 
Cheers, Tony
 
  On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
  
 
      I'd suggest POR 15.? Depending on the color, the number changes.? I think 15 is black.? Gray is something else, maybe 10.? Spray or brush on.? I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans are perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about anywhere.? POR products might be a little more durable than Rustoleum.? If the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good start, but with POR I "think" you can skip the primer.??   Dave H.??   ?   On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:    ?   ?   Hi All. 
  ? It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wondering what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It's already?sand blasted if that matters..   ? ?Thanks.? P.J.  _______________________________________________ 
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From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 18:24:15 2023
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 19:24:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Parts
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Hey All.
 I am in need of a couple of switches. One for the wipers and the other for
the headlights/dimmer. My interior is all MK1 so that's what the switches
should be too.
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From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 18:25:26 2023
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 19:25:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Parts
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I forgot to mention GT6 MK1
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From igofaster at att.net  Sun Oct  1 20:03:46 2023
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 02:03:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] New Member recommendation
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Young lady here in Texas De Anna Penninga has located her original Spitfire from high school out here in Weatherford Texas..She's looking to get involved and get the lil Spitty back on the road... her email is dpenninga at yahoo.com
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From walje at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct  2 08:21:56 2023
From: walje at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS WALJE)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 09:21:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud
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Friends

Does anyone have a part number or source for wheel studs on a 68 Mk1 GT6?  

I need the OEM stud 1/4? longer. I am using wider VTO wheels and the inside rear tire is too close to the radius arm. The VTO wheels have acorn lug nuts and I am limited to the OEM 3/8? stud, and the acorn lug nut limits the length. 

Thanks for your help 

Dennis Walje

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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Oct  2 12:38:03 2023
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 12:38:03 -0600
Subject: [Fot] B Spec runoffs
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Been watching Sunday's SCCA Runoffs, just finished up the B Spec race. 
Now I want to get rid of my Pathfinder, get a Nissan Versa or a Mini 
Coupe and terrorize the streets of Salt Lake.   And no one will ever 
know I am driving at 10/10ths!  Could be fun!

mjb.

From tlizzard at msn.com  Mon Oct  2 15:34:30 2023
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 21:34:30 +0000
Subject: [Fot] B Spec runoffs
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Making a pint do a quart?s work is what sports cars are all about.

Terry Stetler

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Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 2:38:03 PM
To: Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] B Spec runoffs

Been watching Sunday's SCCA Runoffs, just finished up the B Spec race.
Now I want to get rid of my Pathfinder, get a Nissan Versa or a Mini
Coupe and terrorize the streets of Salt Lake.   And no one will ever
know I am driving at 10/10ths!  Could be fun!

mjb.
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  2 16:26:08 2023
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 22:26:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FOT SWAG
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I have had a few folks asking about the shirts I have. Below is the email I originally sent.

Marty

________________________________
From: marty <trmarty at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:50 PM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: FOT SWAG


Ok boys and girls. We now have the ability  of purchasing FOT bling. There is now a FOT store front on the Lands End Business website. See the instructions below for a link. This is for getting the FOT logo embroidered on any item in their catalog. It is not for silk screened items. I am starting with the black and white coat of arms that was used in the 2012 special shirt run. Once you run through the sequence a time or two it is pretty simple. I have tried to explain it below.


Give it a try.


Marty Sukey


1, go to https://business.landsend.com/store/fot/

2, set up an account for yourself and log in.

3, pick an item you might want.

4, click on apply logo,

5, select the FOT logo,

6,if you want, select change colors. Here you can experiment with changing colors on the logo to better       suit the color of shirt you pick. If you hit select new colors you will get a drop down with multiple boxes. Try putting a different color in each box and see how it effects the logo. Then you can tweak it as needed.

7, select location.

8, hit apply logo.

9, hit cancel or add to bag.

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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Mon Oct  2 17:07:35 2023
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 18:07:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] B Spec runoffs
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I bought a used 3rd gen mini Cooper S last year. Huge fan. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2023, at 14:01, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Been watching Sunday's SCCA Runoffs, just finished up the B Spec race. Now I want to get rid of my Pathfinder, get a Nissan Versa or a Mini Coupe and terrorize the streets of Salt Lake.   And no one will ever know I am driving at 10/10ths!  Could be fun!
> 
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  2 17:20:30 2023
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 23:20:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
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At the risk of asking another of ?those? questions, what?s the hive mind opinion on street brake fluid; TR6. ? My go to was Castrol LMA, and the new stuff ain?t the same. ?For the race car, Motul 600 was a popular option, but hardly a civilian fluid. ? I am not looking to go silicone dot 5 either. ?
What?s my best option for a street driven TR6, that won?t eat seals? ? Happen to have a good amount of ATE Type 200 DOT 4 kicking around,?but leary?about Girling getting upset with me. ?Yes, another rear wheel?cylinder let go from sitting too much, or Castrol ain?t like it used to be?

Thoughts? ?And, I fully expect 26 opinions from 13 people. ?LOL
Thanks!Dave Gott
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From gkbyrne at optusnet.com.au  Mon Oct  2 19:52:28 2023
From: gkbyrne at optusnet.com.au (Geoff Byrne)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 12:52:28 +1100
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
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Silicone 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Oct 2023, at 11:50 am, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? At the risk of asking another of ?those? questions, what?s the hive mind opinion on street brake fluid; TR6.   My go to was Castrol LMA, and the new stuff ain?t the same.  For the race car, Motul 600 was a popular option, but hardly a civilian fluid.   I am not looking to go silicone dot 5 either.  
> 
> What?s my best option for a street driven TR6, that won?t eat seals?   Happen to have a good amount of ATE Type 200 DOT 4 kicking around, but leary about Girling getting upset with me.  Yes, another rear wheel cylinder let go from sitting too much, or Castrol ain?t like it used to be?
> 
> Thoughts?  And, I fully expect 26 opinions from 13 people.  LOL
> 
> Thanks!
> Dave Gott
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Mon Oct  2 20:36:51 2023
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 22:36:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FOT SWAG
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Thanks Marty!

> On Oct 2, 2023, at 18:29, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have had a few folks asking about the shirts I have. Below is the email I originally sent. 
> 
> Marty
> 
> From: marty <trmarty at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:50 PM
> To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: FOT SWAG
>  
> Ok boys and girls. We now have the ability  of purchasing FOT bling. There is now a FOT store front on the Lands End Business website. See the instructions below for a link. This is for getting the FOT logo embroidered on any item in their catalog. It is not for silk screened items. I am starting with the black and white coat of arms that was used in the 2012 special shirt run. Once you run through the sequence a time or two it is pretty simple. I have tried to explain it below. 
> 
> 
> 
> Give it a try.
> 
> 
> 
> Marty Sukey 
> 
> 
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> 1, go to https://business.landsend.com/store/fot/
> 
> 2, set up an account for yourself and log in.
> 
> 3, pick an item you might want.
> 
> 4, click on apply logo,
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> 5, select the FOT logo,
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> 6,if you want, select change colors. Here you can experiment with changing colors on the logo to better       suit the color of shirt you pick. If you hit select new colors you will get a drop down with multiple boxes. Try putting a different color in each box and see how it effects the logo. Then you can tweak it as needed.
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Oct  3 03:07:01 2023
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 03:07:01 -0600
Subject: [Fot] FOT SWAG
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I remember looking at this when you first mentioned it.  Wanted a nice 
hat, but the minimum quantity was 25.  I only wanted 1!  Then at the 
Buttonwillow Kastner Cup I was really wishing I had bought a lot of 25. 
Maybe for Sonoma?

mjb.


From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  3 06:49:46 2023
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer Gmail)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 07:49:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Tue Oct  3 08:36:33 2023
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 16:36:33 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
In-Reply-To: <F7AD265C-5DD8-4DED-BFEA-5F0C5B5C94F4@gmail.com>
References: <5A3188A0-90EB-4D50-8294-51AE5CAD6DF5@optusnet.com.au>
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Me too : years with ATE Dot 4 and 5 (not silicone, boiling point min 265?C) and no issues. 

Does hold well on the track too (but short 30 min sessions) and hillclimbing.

In Europe at least (I speak for Switzerland) it still comes in metal cans, which is a bonus (they guarantee a shelf life of 5 years, just checked the TDS).

A presto !

Alex Camoletti

 

De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot
Envoy? : mardi 3 octobre 2023 14:50
? : Geoff Byrne
Cc : FOT Triumph
Objet : Re: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.

 

I?ve used the ATE with no seal issues. Does it still come in metal cans?

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 2, 2023, at 10:39 PM, Geoff Byrne via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?Silicone 

Sent from my iPhone





On 3 Oct 2023, at 11:50 am, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? At the risk of asking another of ?those? questions, what?s the hive mind opinion on street brake fluid; TR6.   My go to was Castrol LMA, and the new stuff ain?t the same.  For the race car, Motul 600 was a popular option, but hardly a civilian fluid.   I am not looking to go silicone dot 5 either.  

 

What?s my best option for a street driven TR6, that won?t eat seals?   Happen to have a good amount of ATE Type 200 DOT 4 kicking around, but leary about Girling getting upset with me.  Yes, another rear wheel cylinder let go from sitting too much, or Castrol ain?t like it used to be?

Thoughts?  And, I fully expect 26 opinions from 13 people.  LOL

 

Thanks!

Dave Gott

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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Tue Oct  3 11:16:04 2023
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 13:16:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] B Spec runoffs
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I?ve got a 2019 Mini Cooper S that I?ve used for about 25 track days. After putting near race level suspension in it (camber plates, rear LCAs, stiffer sways, MC JCW Pro coil overs, and 200 TW tires) it?s more than 6 seconds faster than my Spitfire race car at Thompson! 

While previously fun for family road cruises, the stiff track suspension makes ever bump need a warning! Still a lot of fun catching and passing some of the bigger ?faster? cars at New England?s twisty racetracks. 

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2023, at 7:49 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I bought a used 3rd gen mini Cooper S last year. Huge fan. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2023, at 14:01, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Been watching Sunday's SCCA Runoffs, just finished up the B Spec race. Now I want to get rid of my Pathfinder, get a Nissan Versa or a Mini Coupe and terrorize the streets of Salt Lake.   And no one will ever know I am driving at 10/10ths!  Could be fun!
>> 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Oct  3 12:31:54 2023
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 20:31:54 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
In-Reply-To: <003a01d9f607$0182e5e0$0488b1a0$@camoletti.ch>
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My favorite brake fluid is the Pagid RS ? 328?C.

Really nice stuff to race with.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 4:37 PM
To: 'Bob Kramer Gmail' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>; 'Geoff Byrne' <gkbyrne at optusnet.com.au>; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.

 

Me too : years with ATE Dot 4 and 5 (not silicone, boiling point min 265?C) and no issues. 

Does hold well on the track too (but short 30 min sessions) and hillclimbing.

In Europe at least (I speak for Switzerland) it still comes in metal cans, which is a bonus (they guarantee a shelf life of 5 years, just checked the TDS).

A presto !

Alex Camoletti

 

De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot
Envoy? : mardi 3 octobre 2023 14:50
? : Geoff Byrne
Cc : FOT Triumph
Objet : Re: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.

 

I?ve used the ATE with no seal issues. Does it still come in metal cans?

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 2, 2023, at 10:39 PM, Geoff Byrne via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?Silicone 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 3 Oct 2023, at 11:50 am, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

? At the risk of asking another of ?those? questions, what?s the hive mind opinion on street brake fluid; TR6.   My go to was Castrol LMA, and the new stuff ain?t the same.  For the race car, Motul 600 was a popular option, but hardly a civilian fluid.   I am not looking to go silicone dot 5 either.  

 

What?s my best option for a street driven TR6, that won?t eat seals?   Happen to have a good amount of ATE Type 200 DOT 4 kicking around, but leary about Girling getting upset with me.  Yes, another rear wheel cylinder let go from sitting too much, or Castrol ain?t like it used to be?

Thoughts?  And, I fully expect 26 opinions from 13 people.  LOL

 

Thanks!

Dave Gott

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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue Oct  3 12:52:50 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 14:52:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue Oct  3 12:54:19 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 14:54:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Oct  3 12:56:19 2023
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 18:56:19 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
In-Reply-To: <728876499.5400510.1696288830934@mail.yahoo.com>
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I've had Silicone in my street Healey since 1993 and have not rebuilt the system in that time. The clutch fluid has started to mysteriously disappear, so it's probably time, but 30 years, I got no complaints.


Henry Morrison
________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 5:20 PM
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.

At the risk of asking another of ?those? questions, what?s the hive mind opinion on street brake fluid; TR6.   My go to was Castrol LMA, and the new stuff ain?t the same.  For the race car, Motul 600 was a popular option, but hardly a civilian fluid.   I am not looking to go silicone dot 5 either.

What?s my best option for a street driven TR6, that won?t eat seals?   Happen to have a good amount of ATE Type 200 DOT 4 kicking around, but leary about Girling getting upset with me.  Yes, another rear wheel cylinder let go from sitting too much, or Castrol ain?t like it used to be?

Thoughts?  And, I fully expect 26 opinions from 13 people.  LOL

Thanks!
Dave Gott
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  3 13:13:24 2023
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 19:13:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
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 Well, guess I'll jump in too! After a rather exciting Blackhawk event where I boiled my dot 3 fluid, I've ponied up for Castrol SRF. No further issues.?
Jake
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 02:11:14 PM CDT, Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
My favorite brake fluid is the Pagid RS ? 328?C.

Really nice stuff to race with.

 ?

Cheers

Chris

 ?

 ?

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 4:37 PM
To: 'Bob Kramer Gmail' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>; 'Geoff Byrne' <gkbyrne at optusnet.com.au>; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.

 ?

Me too?: years with ATE Dot 4 and 5 (not silicone, boiling point min 265?C) and no issues. 

Does hold well on the track too (but short 30 min sessions) and hillclimbing.

In Europe at least (I speak for Switzerland) it still comes in metal cans, which is a bonus (they guarantee a shelf life of 5 years, just checked the TDS).

A presto?!

Alex Camoletti

 ?

De?: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot
Envoy??: mardi 3 octobre 2023 14:50
??: Geoff Byrne
Cc?: FOT Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.

 ?

I?ve used the ATE with no seal issues. Does it still come in metal cans?

Sent from my iPhone

 ?

On Oct 2, 2023, at 10:39 PM, Geoff Byrne via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


?Silicone?

Sent from my iPhone

 ?

On 3 Oct 2023, at 11:50 am, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


? At the risk of asking another of ?those? questions, what?s the hive mind opinion on street brake fluid; TR6. ? My go to was Castrol LMA, and the new stuff ain?t the same. ?For the race car, Motul 600 was a popular option, but hardly a civilian fluid. ? I am not looking to go silicone dot 5 either. ?

 ?

What?s my best option for a street driven TR6, that won?t eat seals? ? Happen to have a good amount of ATE Type 200 DOT 4 kicking around,?but leary?about Girling getting upset with me. ?Yes, another rear wheel?cylinder let go from sitting too much, or Castrol ain?t like it used to be?

Thoughts? ?And, I fully expect 26 opinions from 13 people. ?LOL

 ?

Thanks!

Dave Gott

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From kknight at klaenv.com  Tue Oct  3 15:00:56 2023
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 14:00:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.
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Silicone in street TR-3A for 30+ years with one rear wheel cylinder leaking replaced last year.  Motul for race car, bleed system after rach race and replaced yearly.  Ken

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Henry A. Morrison via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 1:49 PM
To: David Gott; fot
Subject: Re: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid.

I've had Silicone in my street Healey since 1993 and have not rebuilt the system in that time. The clutch fluid has started to mysteriously disappear, so it's probably time, but 30 years, I got no complaints.??


Henry Morrison?

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 5:20 PM
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Here we go again. LOL. Street brake fluid. 
?
At the risk of asking another of ?those? questions, what?s the hive mind opinion on street brake fluid; TR6. ? My go to was Castrol LMA, and the new stuff ain?t the same. ?For the race car, Motul 600 was a popular option, but hardly a civilian fluid. ? I am not looking to go silicone dot 5 either. ? 

What?s my best option for a street driven TR6, that won?t eat seals? ? Happen to have a good amount of ATE Type 200 DOT 4 kicking around,?but leary?about Girling getting upset with me. ?Yes, another rear wheel?cylinder let go from sitting too much, or Castrol ain?t like it used to be?

Thoughts? ?And, I fully expect 26 opinions from 13 people. ?LOL

Thanks!
Dave Gott
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  3 16:57:02 2023
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 22:57:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] A-type OD leaks
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 Thanks to everyone's advice, I was able to separate the OD from the transmission, replace the adapter plate and get the OD back on.? The PO had already added the extra studs at the bottom, but I guess with the plate bent, those extra studs were not enough.? I got an upgraded (thicker near bottom) adapter plate from Quantum Mechanics, who had everything I needed in stock.? Apparently the plate that Moss sells is also upgraded, but their website showed it as out of stock.??
After filling it with oil, I found a drip from the big brass plug, even though I put a new gasket there.? Added some Hylomar and cured that leak.? After it was back in the car for a few days, found a drip from where the rear housing splits.? Oh well, I'm not taking that apart.? Most of the leaking has stopped.??
Thanks again for the advice.? JoeB
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 08:15:34 AM EDT, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Joe,

If your gearbox has slowly started leaking around the adapter plate, in all likelihood the issue is the six bolts that hold the plate to the back of the gearbox have loosened up. If nobody safety wired them or didn't use any kind of threadlocker on them, this is typically the problem when leaks slowly start in this area. The likelihood of needing to replace the adapter plate is not all that high, assuming the leak is not huge and you have not been driving the car with copious amounts of oil leaking about.

The adapter plate is not part of the overdrive unit, so replacing only the adapter plate is not too difficult. Six nuts hold the OD unit to the adapter plate, remove the nuts from the 4 short studs first, then start working the nuts on the two long studs evenly, and spring pressure should separate the OD unit from the adapter plate. Pay attention to the 8 springs as you slide the OD unit off the mainshaft, when they fall out they like to roll under things. Place the OD unit aside, other that cleaning the gasket surface you will not be messing with that.

I use the little bottle of Permatex Aviation gasket sealer for gearboxs, seems to work well for me.

The six bolts that attach the adapter plate to the back of the gearbox case are now visible, if these bolts are not properly torqued you just found the source of your leak. Remove them, clean up your gasket surfaces and reseal. The same gasket is used here as the non-overdrive gearbox.? Rimmers sells bolts specifically for this application, they have threadlocker that is safe for the aluminum case on the threads. They have been working for me.?These 6 bolts may be safety wired, always a good idea if you don't buy a set of new bolts from Rimmers. If you go the safety wire route, pay attention to the parts as it is easy to run the wire in such a way that it fouls when the OD unit is installed.

The last adapter plate I bought from Rimmers was embossed with "ORS", I believe it was made by Overdrive Repair Services, the business started by Laycock employees after Laycock closed their doors. I didn't really compare it to a Triumph adapter plate, but I can see how John Esposito might call it an upgraded adapter plate. If you need one, I'd just order it from Rimmers along with those 6 bolts.?

Assembling the OD unit back onto the gearbox is where the real fun is, you need to line up two sets of splines in the OD unit, compress the 8 springs and make sure you don't foul the oil pump plunger on the cam. Many ways to accomplish this, some are tedious, frustrating, and can completely drive you crazy. The easiest way I have found is to safety wire the pump plunger, install the pump drive cam and make sure it is pointing away from the pump, apply the sealant to the gasket and place in on the OD unit, align the splines in the OD unit, (a spare OD mainshaft is really helpful with this) and offer up the OD unit to the box. Slowly slide the unit on assuring everything is lined up until the gasket is almost touching the adapter plate. Then, install the nuts and washers on the long studs only a couple of turns. Then you slide the OD unit backwards WITHOUT TURNING the rear flange until it hits the nuts. Then you install the 8 springs in their correct position, (shorts go inboard, longs go outboard) by stuffing them onto their posts on the sliding member then levering the other end onto the nubs on the adapter plate. Take a really good look to make sure you have all 8 springs correctly installed, then tighten the nuts equally to draw the OD unit home. Then install the 4 nuts and washers on the short studs, remove the safety wire on the oil pump plunger, refill with oil and you are good to go.

If you run into problems or need to borrow a spare OD mainshaft to line up the splines in the OD unit, feel free to reach out!

Henry





  
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  3 18:17:10 2023
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 00:17:10 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FOT SWAG
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Evelyn and I have purchased numerous items from the site and have never had to purchase more than one.  You must have gotten lucky.

Marty
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I remember looking at this when you first mentioned it.  Wanted a nice
hat, but the minimum quantity was 25.  I only wanted 1!  Then at the
Buttonwillow Kastner Cup I was really wishing I had bought a lot of 25.
Maybe for Sonoma?

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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Oct  3 23:21:29 2023
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 00:21:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud
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Perhaps here it is best to Try  something different and way better...It seems your best option would be to upgrade to a larger wheel stud. The Stock OEM size ones you mention are not the best option for GT6ing 
A bit of searching for  a lhicker and longer wheel stud may give you better and more available options. A good machinist can?t help customize wheel holes or lug nuts.
Good luck. I?ve figured out a few custom lug but/ wheel combos this year using Common  stuff from Summit racing. 
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:40 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Friends
> 
> Does anyone have a part number or source for wheel studs on a 68 Mk1 GT6?  
> 
> I need the OEM stud 1/4? longer. I am using wider VTO wheels and the inside rear tire is too close to the radius arm. The VTO wheels have acorn lug nuts and I am limited to the OEM 3/8? stud, and the acorn lug nut limits the length.
> 
> Thanks for your help 
> 
> Dennis Walje
> 
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  4 07:35:18 2023
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 13:35:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud
In-Reply-To: <2A63282D-485F-427A-BEEA-52C345357FDD@multivintage.com>
References: <A192BAC2-906C-44AB-A027-9FEAEAD06A1F@sbcglobal.net>
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 I totally agree - at the very least, you should be using 7/16"-20 studs. I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure that the TR6 stud knurl is the same or "close enough" to the Spitfire because one of the locals used to take my TR6 cast-off studs for his Spitfire. But if you need to play with whee spacers, look at the offerings from ARP. Totally worth the money. Get the bullet-nose style - they really help to avoid cross threading when you're thrashing to get the wheels on before a session. Not that THAT ever happens.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 07:42:05 AM EDT, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Perhaps here it is best to Try? something different and way better...It seems your best option would be to upgrade to a larger wheel stud. The Stock OEM size ones you mention are not the best option for GT6ing 
A bit of searching for? a lhicker and longer wheel stud may give you better and more available options. A good machinist can?t help customize wheel holes or lug nuts.
Good luck. I?ve figured out a few custom lug but/ wheel combos this year using Common? stuff from Summit racing. 
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:40 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Friends
> 
> Does anyone have a part number or source for wheel studs on a 68 Mk1 GT6?? 
> 
> I need the OEM stud 1/4? longer. I am using wider VTO wheels and the inside rear tire is too close to the radius arm. The VTO wheels have acorn lug nuts and I am limited to the OEM 3/8? stud, and the acorn lug nut limits the length.
> 
> Thanks for your help 
> 
> Dennis Walje
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Wed Oct  4 07:47:14 2023
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 13:47:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud
In-Reply-To: <2A63282D-485F-427A-BEEA-52C345357FDD@multivintage.com>
References: <A192BAC2-906C-44AB-A027-9FEAEAD06A1F@sbcglobal.net>
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 2nd that good advice; 3/8 is marginal, especially w/spacers & more offset.
Glen Efinger

    On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 07:53:32 AM EDT, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Perhaps here it is best to Try? something different and way better...It seems your best option would be to upgrade to a larger wheel stud. The Stock OEM size ones you mention are not the best option for GT6ing 
A bit of searching for? a lhicker and longer wheel stud may give you better and more available options. A good machinist can?t help customize wheel holes or lug nuts.
Good luck. I?ve figured out a few custom lug but/ wheel combos this year using Common? stuff from Summit racing. 
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:40 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Friends
> 
> Does anyone have a part number or source for wheel studs on a 68 Mk1 GT6?? 
> 
> I need the OEM stud 1/4? longer. I am using wider VTO wheels and the inside rear tire is too close to the radius arm. The VTO wheels have acorn lug nuts and I am limited to the OEM 3/8? stud, and the acorn lug nut limits the length.
> 
> Thanks for your help 
> 
> Dennis Walje
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Oct  4 08:45:33 2023
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 08:45:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud
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I seem to recall that an off the shelf Dorman stud for something like 
'75 - '77 Mercury Capri is almost an exact replacement for Spit/GT6 
wheel studs.  I may have the information out in the garage somewhere.  I 
recall I had to use the lathe to taper the boss on the end.  It has been 
quite some time, my memory isn't as good as it used to be.  I'll try to 
dig out the info in the next day or two.

mjb.


From solarant at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  4 08:46:25 2023
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 14:46:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud
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I've used this site many times to search for alternate studs.
You don't have to purchase their product because it lists original application.

I've even increased BCD to match wheels by using oversized serrations and original holes in the hubs.

https://www.dormanproducts.com/gsearch.aspx?type=parttype&origin=hardware&parttype=Wheel%20Lug%20Stud&Style=Serrated%2520Stud&SAE%20or%20Metric=SAE&Thread%20Size=1%252F2-20

M12x1.5 gives you lots of nut options to fit lots of wheels.


________________________________
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Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 10:21 AM
To: Amici Triumphi <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud


Friends

Does anyone have a part number or source for wheel studs on a 68 Mk1 GT6?

I need the OEM stud 1/4? longer. I am using wider VTO wheels and the inside rear tire is too close to the radius arm. The VTO wheels have acorn lug nuts and I am limited to the OEM 3/8? stud, and the acorn lug nut limits the length.

Thanks for your help

Dennis Walje

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From david.c.cutter at gmail.com  Wed Oct  4 09:19:05 2023
From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 11:19:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud
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Dennis, check out this option.

http://auskellian.com/paul/links_files/upgrade_spitfire_wheel_studs.html

Cheers,
Dave and Shelby
Spitfire #142

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023, 10:17 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I totally agree - at the very least, you should be using 7/16"-20 studs.
> I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure that the TR6 stud knurl is the
> same or "close enough" to the Spitfire because one of the locals used to
> take my TR6 cast-off studs for his Spitfire. But if you need to play with
> whee spacers, look at the offerings from ARP. Totally worth the money. Get
> the bullet-nose style - they really help to avoid cross threading when
> you're thrashing to get the wheels on before a session. Not that THAT ever
> happens.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 07:42:05 AM EDT, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps here it is best to Try  something different and way better...It
> seems your best option would be to upgrade to a larger wheel stud. The
> Stock OEM size ones you mention are not the best option for GT6ing
> A bit of searching for  a lhicker and longer wheel stud may give you
> better and more available options. A good machinist can?t help customize
> wheel holes or lug nuts.
> Good luck. I?ve figured out a few custom lug but/ wheel combos this year
> using Common  stuff from Summit racing.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:40 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > Friends
> >
> > Does anyone have a part number or source for wheel studs on a 68 Mk1
> GT6?
> >
> > I need the OEM stud 1/4? longer. I am using wider VTO wheels and the
> inside rear tire is too close to the radius arm. The VTO wheels have acorn
> lug nuts and I am limited to the OEM 3/8? stud, and the acorn lug nut
> limits the length.
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > Dennis Walje
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Wed Oct  4 10:39:54 2023
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 11:39:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings, OK
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What is the Triumph Heritage Motor Racing Group?


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings, OK
Date: 	Wed, 4 Oct 2023 01:57:01 +0000
From: 	Mike Piggott <mike_piggott at hotmail.com>

	


All:

The Triumph Heritage Motor racing group will be competing at Hallet this 
weekend.? Friday is tune-up and practice.? Saturday and Sunday will 
feature two races per day.? One at 10 and the other at 1.? Lonny Wall 
will lead a caravan from the Welcome Center at 122^nd street/I35 
starting at 8 am Saturday.? ?I will depart Shawnee at 8am. Drive your 
Triumph or whatever!? Should be a great time!? $10 entry fee.? Bring 
your lunch or buy it on site?likewise refreshments. See Hallet?s 
website/Facebook for the rules. ?Please respond to this email if you 
plan to attend so that we will leave no one behind.

Thanks

Mike
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From robertten1 at aol.com  Wed Oct  4 11:39:46 2023
From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 17:39:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Fw:  Wheel stud
In-Reply-To: <1657430193.4537735.1696279671532@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <A192BAC2-906C-44AB-A027-9FEAEAD06A1F.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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 <1657430193.4537735.1696279671532@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1192655055.4294043.1696441186476@mail.yahoo.com>

 

   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: robertten1 at aol.com <robertten1 at aol.com>To: DENNIS WALJE <walje at sbcglobal.net>Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 at 04:47:51 PM EDTSubject: Re: [Fot] Wheel stud
  Afternoon? Dennis,
The Spit & GT6 studs are the same.? I have the 7/16" studs from the TR6 front and rear on my autocrosser.? ?Note you will need to modify the double bevel at the seat end of stud for clearance to seat without interference into hubs.Yes they are 1/4"? longer than 3/8" studs.
Good luck,Bob T?
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Friends

Does anyone have a part number or source for wheel studs on a 68 Mk1 GT6?? 

I need the OEM stud 1/4? longer. I am using wider VTO wheels and the inside rear tire is too close to the radius arm. The VTO wheels have acorn lug nuts and I am limited to the OEM 3/8? stud, and the acorn lug nut limits the length. 

Thanks for your help 

Dennis Walje

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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Wed Oct  4 12:42:25 2023
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (charly at mitchelplumbing.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 11:42:25 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud
In-Reply-To: <SN7PR19MB75012AB0C1AF8A89414AB5A8D7CBA@SN7PR19MB7501.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <A192BAC2-906C-44AB-A027-9FEAEAD06A1F.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Message-ID: <013c01d9f6f2$869a7bd0$93cf7370$@mitchelplumbing.com>

I have a 'jig' made by Patton Machine,
https://www.pattonmachine.com/product-category/trailing-arm-kit/ , that I'd
like to donate to the FoT if there's a library of tools for Triumphs.  

If not, then let me know of any interest in it and we'll see what we can do
with it.

Thanks,

Charly Mitchel

TR6 #44

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Anthony Parker via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 7:46 AM
To: Amici Triumphi <fot at autox.team.net>; DENNIS WALJE <walje at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheel stud

 

I've used this site many times to search for alternate studs.

You don't have to purchase their product because it lists original
application.

 

I've even increased BCD to match wheels by using oversized serrations and
original holes in the hubs.

 

https://www.dormanproducts.com/gsearch.aspx?type=parttype
<https://www.dormanproducts.com/gsearch.aspx?type=parttype&origin=hardware&p
arttype=Wheel%20Lug%20Stud&Style=Serrated%2520Stud&SAE%20or%20Metric=SAE&Thr
ead%20Size=1%252F2-20>
&origin=hardware&parttype=Wheel%20Lug%20Stud&Style=Serrated%2520Stud&SAE%20o
r%20Metric=SAE&Thread%20Size=1%252F2-20

 

M12x1.5 gives you lots of nut options to fit lots of wheels.

 

 

  _____  

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> >
on behalf of DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net
<mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 10:21 AM
To: Amici Triumphi <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud 

 


Friends

Does anyone have a part number or source for wheel studs on a 68 Mk1 GT6?  

I need the OEM stud 1/4" longer. I am using wider VTO wheels and the inside
rear tire is too close to the radius arm. The VTO wheels have acorn lug nuts
and I am limited to the OEM 3/8" stud, and the acorn lug nut limits the
length. 

Thanks for your help 

Dennis Walje

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Oct  4 13:46:58 2023
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 15:46:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Wheel stud
In-Reply-To: <c38698b0-5bd7-ad14-d5f0-019cd16cf095@bradakis.com>
References: <A192BAC2-906C-44AB-A027-9FEAEAD06A1F@sbcglobal.net>
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Thicker, stock length studs-
Here's some part numbers and a pic or two for stud upgrades I did to a few
Spitfires and GT6s. Not much longer, but stronger.

stock spitfire length 7/16 upgrade Dorman P/N 610-168

There is a slightly longer 7/16" stud Dorman # 610-156. The shoulder is the
same as stock, 3/8" , the  length is a little more, 1 23/32" but the
knurled part is slightly larger, .577" vs .572"

Actual measurements
Stock Spit 3/8"stud
Knurled part - 0.521 "
Shank - 0.496"
Length 1 5/8"

Dorman 610-168 7/16"-20
Knurled part - 0.512 "
Shank - 0.493"
Length 1 5/8"

Dorman 610-156 7/16" - 20
Knurled part - 0. 566"
Shank - 0.544"
Length 1 23/32"

drill for 610-156 - 35/64'
Also, you need to grind a flat spot on one end so it clears the hub radius

mike h
[image: Compare.JPG]
flat spot ground to clear hub radius
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:17?PM Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I seem to recall that an off the shelf Dorman stud for something like
> '75 - '77 Mercury Capri is almost an exact replacement for Spit/GT6
> wheel studs.  I may have the information out in the garage somewhere.  I
> recall I had to use the lathe to taper the boss on the end.  It has been
> quite some time, my memory isn't as good as it used to be.  I'll try to
> dig out the info in the next day or two.
>
> mjb.
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From robertten1 at aol.com  Wed Oct  4 13:59:03 2023
From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 19:59:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Fw:  Wheel stud
In-Reply-To: <1192655055.4294043.1696441186476@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <A192BAC2-906C-44AB-A027-9FEAEAD06A1F.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: robertten1 at aol.com <robertten1 at aol.com>To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 01:39:46 PM EDTSubject: Fw: [Fot] Wheel stud
  

   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: robertten1 at aol.com <robertten1 at aol.com>To: DENNIS WALJE <walje at sbcglobal.net>Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 at 04:47:51 PM EDTSubject: Re: [Fot] Wheel stud
  Afternoon? Dennis,
The Spit & GT6 studs are the same.? I have the 7/16" studs from the TR6 front and rear on my autocrosser.? ?Note you will need to modify the double bevel at the seat end of stud for clearance to seat without interference into hubs.Yes they are 1/4"? longer than 3/8" studs.
Good luck,Bob T?
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Friends

Does anyone have a part number or source for wheel studs on a 68 Mk1 GT6?? 

I need the OEM stud 1/4? longer. I am using wider VTO wheels and the inside rear tire is too close to the radius arm. The VTO wheels have acorn lug nuts and I am limited to the OEM 3/8? stud, and the acorn lug nut limits the length. 

Thanks for your help 

Dennis Walje

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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  4 18:53:16 2023
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 19:53:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings, OK
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  5 01:18:28 2023
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 00:18:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings, OK
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References: <0BEAE3FB-9D94-47E6-885B-8155790A746A@yahoo.com>
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?Arnold? or Arnolt? 
I used to have a Arnolt MG and pretty as it was, I can?t imagine one as a racecar. 
Never heard of a Triumph powered Arnolt so maybe this is a different breed? Or is TR power what makes it ?special??
Greg ? Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

> On Oct 4, 2023, at 11:05 PM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I?ll be racing the 1957 TR3 ?Daytona? car and the 1957 Arnold Special will also be running, those are the only Triumphs that will be at Hallett this weekend, so I guess that makes us the Triumph Heritage Group whatever that is!
> 
> Dusty Nicholson 
> 281-871-9623
> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Larry Young via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ? What is the Triumph Heritage Motor Racing Group?
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject:	COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings, OK
>> Date:	Wed, 4 Oct 2023 01:57:01 +0000
>> From:	Mike Piggott <mike_piggott at hotmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> All:
>>  
>> The Triumph Heritage Motor racing group will be competing at Hallet this weekend.  Friday is tune-up and practice.  Saturday and Sunday will feature two races per day.  One at 10 and the other at 1.  Lonny Wall will lead a caravan from the Welcome Center at 122nd street/I35 starting at 8 am Saturday.   I will depart Shawnee at 8am.  Drive your Triumph or whatever!  Should be a great time!  $10 entry fee.  Bring your lunch or buy it on site?likewise refreshments. See Hallet?s website/Facebook for the rules.  Please respond to this email if you plan to attend so that we will leave no one behind.
>>  
>> Thanks
>>  
>> Mike
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From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 07:40:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings, OK
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Oct  5 10:35:19 2023
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (charly at mitchelplumbing.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 09:35:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] trailing arm drill jig
Message-ID: <010401d9f7a9$efaff480$cf0fdd80$@mitchelplumbing.com>

I have a 'jig' made by Patton Machine,
<https://www.pattonmachine.com/product-category/trailing-arm-kit/>
https://www.pattonmachine.com/product-category/trailing-arm-kit/ , that I'd
like to donate to the FoT if there's a library of tools for Triumphs.  

If not, then let me know of any interest in it and we'll see what we can do
with it.

Thanks,

Charly Mitchel

TR6 #44

 

 

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From gt6steve at aol.com  Thu Oct  5 19:47:11 2023
From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 01:47:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] GT6 racing (forged) pistons needed
In-Reply-To: <655616187.675651.1693009971761@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <SN7PR19MB750116F1B5FA7A991AE839EFD71CA@SN7PR19MB7501.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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Got this one. It was odd for a bit there. I?ve got an excellent set sitting on my kitchen counter. Did you get the spec sheet?


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On Friday, August 25, 2023, 5:32 PM, gt6steve at aol.com <gt6steve at aol.com> wrote:

Are you getting my emails le?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Friday, August 25, 2023, 2:05 PM, Anthony Parker <solarant at hotmail.com> wrote:

#yiv6341469123 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Sorry to send this to everyone.
Steve, please check your email spam and junk folders.I've sent two to you and don't think you have seen them
Thank you, Anthony.



From: gt6steve at aol.com <gt6steve at aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2023 10:54 PM
To: Anthony Parker <solarant at hotmail.com>; FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 racing (forged) pistons needed?I?ll get out there tomorrow?s I know I have something you?ll like. Thirty years of development lol


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On Thursday, August 24, 2023, 3:22 PM, Anthony Parker <solarant at hotmail.com> wrote:

<!--#yiv6341469123 #yiv6341469123x_yiv1301131544 p {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}-->Did you find anything Steve?
You're my only hope.
Thank you,

From: gt6steve at aol.com <gt6steve at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 8:59 PM
To: Anthony Parker <solarant at hotmail.com>; FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 racing (forged) pistons needed?I?m sure I do. I?ll look


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<!--#yiv6341469123 #yiv6341469123x_yiv1301131544 #yiv6341469123x_yiv1301131544x_yiv1827871457 p {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}-->Does anyone out there happen to have a set of forged racing pistons in + 0.02" to + 0.03"?Or a set of blanks suitable for 1.5" compression height?
Thank you,_______________________________________________
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From solarant at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  5 20:23:45 2023
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 02:23:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] GT6 racing (forged) pistons needed
In-Reply-To: <1679657301.7073633.1696556831435@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <SN7PR19MB750116F1B5FA7A991AE839EFD71CA@SN7PR19MB7501.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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Thanks Steve,

Frustrating that you were not getting my direct emails.
No spec sheet received.

I got a set rushed through JE.

They worked through two qualifying sessions and a shortened race soo far.

Being forced (by the rules) to use the stock rod length is a real bummer.


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From: gt6steve at aol.com <gt6steve at aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 9:47 PM
To: Anthony Parker <solarant at hotmail.com>; FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 racing (forged) pistons needed

Got this one. It was odd for a bit there. I?ve got an excellent set sitting on my kitchen counter. Did you get the spec sheet?


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On Friday, August 25, 2023, 5:32 PM, gt6steve at aol.com <gt6steve at aol.com> wrote:

Are you getting my emails le?


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On Friday, August 25, 2023, 2:05 PM, Anthony Parker <solarant at hotmail.com> wrote:

Sorry to send this to everyone.

Steve, please check your email spam and junk folders.
I've sent two to you and don't think you have seen them

Thank you, Anthony.




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To: Anthony Parker <solarant at hotmail.com>; FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 racing (forged) pistons needed

I?ll get out there tomorrow?s I know I have something you?ll like. Thirty years of development lol


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On Thursday, August 24, 2023, 3:22 PM, Anthony Parker <solarant at hotmail.com> wrote:

Did you find anything Steve?

You're my only hope.

Thank you,


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Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 racing (forged) pistons needed

I?m sure I do. I?ll look


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On Wednesday, August 23, 2023, 4:22 PM, Anthony Parker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Does anyone out there happen to have a set of forged racing pistons in + 0.02" to + 0.03"?
Or a set of blanks suitable for 1.5" compression height?

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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Oct  6 10:29:10 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 12:29:10 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
Message-ID: <782B4075-6D70-4199-B223-276A6C9A383E@me.com>

I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.  In the Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared, could be an SCCA production class car.  Ideally I?d like something that is ?race ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing of course that all race cars continually need work. I guess what I?m saying is I?m not looking for a total project or an incomplete car.  Blown engines, etc are fine.

Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.
I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the traditional pre-1972 prep level.
Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
Thx,
Scott Janzen

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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Fri Oct  6 10:56:28 2023
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 11:56:28 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
Message-ID: <61168.1696611388@mitchelplumbing.com>

https://racecarlocators.com/cars-for-sale/ols/products/1969-triumph-tr6---history-one-of-the-finest

Price is negotiable
Charly

On Fri 06/10/23  9:29 AM , Scott Janzen via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent:
> I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.  In the
> Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared,
> could be an SCCA production class car.  Ideally I?d like something
> that is ?race ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing
> of course that all race cars continually need work. I guess what I?m
> saying is I?m not looking for a total project or an incomplete car. 
> Blown engines, etc are fine.
> Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports
> racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of
> events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the
> traditional pre-1972 prep level.Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
> Thx,
> Scott Janzen
> 
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From clw2000 at msn.com  Fri Oct  6 11:12:13 2023
From: clw2000 at msn.com (Chuck WATSON)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 17:12:13 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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Scott (or anyone).  My GT6 project is for sale.  Includes just about everything needed except final assembly.  Anyone can contact me at clw2000 at msn.com for pics and details if interested.


Thanks,
Chuck Watson
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Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted

I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.  In the Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared, could be an SCCA production class car.  Ideally I?d like something that is ?race ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing of course that all race cars continually need work. I guess what I?m saying is I?m not looking for a total project or an incomplete car.  Blown engines, etc are fine.

Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.
I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the traditional pre-1972 prep level.
Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
Thx,
Scott Janzen

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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Oct  6 11:21:10 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 13:21:10 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  6 12:32:07 2023
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 18:32:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings, OK
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 If memory serves, that car was at Pitt Race in 2018 - it's a really beautiful car!
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 01:05:14 AM EDT, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 It is the Arnold Special, tube frame with a TR3 drive train, one off Canadian built car that raced in the 50?s/60?s. Beautiful car. I?m not sure if Gary is FoT, if he?s on here he can tell us more. He?s an Oklahoma guy.
Definitely not built by Wacky Arnolt!


|  |
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| 1957 Arnold Special - conceptcarz.comgoogle.com |

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Dusty Nicholson?281-871-9623

On Oct 5, 2023, at 2:18 AM, Greg Hilyer <lunkercars at yahoo.com> wrote:



?
?Arnold? or Arnolt??I used to have a Arnolt MG and pretty as it was, I can?t imagine one as a racecar.?Never heard of a Triumph powered Arnolt so maybe this is a different breed? Or is TR power what makes it ?special??Greg ? Lunker? HilyerAlbuquerque NM

On Oct 4, 2023, at 11:05 PM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?
I?ll be racing the 1957 TR3 ?Daytona? car and the 1957 Arnold Special will also be running, those are the only Triumphs that will be at Hallett this weekend, so I guess that makes us the Triumph Heritage Group whatever that is!

Dusty Nicholson?281-871-9623

On Oct 4, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Larry Young via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



? 
 What is the Triumph Heritage Motor Racing Group?
 
 
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| Subject:  | COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings, OK |
| Date:  | Wed, 4 Oct 2023 01:57:01 +0000 |
| From:  | Mike Piggott <mike_piggott at hotmail.com> |
| 
  | 
  |

 
  
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All:
 
 ?
 
The Triumph Heritage Motor racing group will be competing at Hallet this weekend.? Friday is tune-up and practice.? Saturday and Sunday will feature two races per day.? One at 10 and the other at 1.? Lonny Wall will lead a caravan from the Welcome Center at 122nd street/I35 starting at 8 am Saturday.? ?I will depart Shawnee at 8am.? Drive your Triumph or whatever!? Should be a great time!? $10 entry fee.? Bring your lunch or buy it on site?likewise refreshments. See Hallet?s website/Facebook for the rules. ?Please respond to this email if you plan to attend so that we will leave no one behind.
 
 ?
 
Thanks
 
 ?
 
Mike
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri Oct  6 14:43:15 2023
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 20:43:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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 I'm just finishing getting my old MkIII F-prod Spit ready to put on the market.Ex-National car & SCCA SE Division champ under previous ownership, logbooks to mid-70s, good history.It just had a fresh major service including complete hydraulic rebuild, carbs, head off for inspection/valve lapping, etc etc, needs tires, belts,&? probably fire system, etc to suit rules.Last raced Prod late 90's, then a few seasons Vintage on treaded tires; it has a lot of glass so some Vintage groups won't accept it.Shoot me an email if any interest, full details available.
$$ TBD & agreed upon, a little south of $10k. 

Glen Efinger

    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 12:45:18 PM EDT, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.? In the Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared, could be an SCCA production class car.? Ideally I?d like something that is ?race ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing of course that all race cars continually need work. I guess what I?m saying is I?m not looking for a total project or an incomplete car.? Blown engines, etc are fine.

Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.
I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the traditional pre-1972 prep level.
Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
Thx,
Scott Janzen

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From jhouathome at aol.com  Fri Oct  6 15:13:56 2023
From: jhouathome at aol.com (jhouathome at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 21:13:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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Hi Scott,?I have 3?cars currently for sale. ?A really cool Kellison bodied TR4, race ready save for new tires. a ?69 Ginetta G15, race ready. ?1972 LeGrand 2 liter sports racer, 5 speed, getting close to engine rebuild time but still flys! ?All are solid, complete, present very well, and are rationally priced. ?PM me if interested for pictures and pricing.Thanks,John Houlton


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On Friday, October 6, 2023, 11:39 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.? In the Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared, could be an SCCA production class car.? Ideally I?d like something that is ?race ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing of course that all race cars continually need work. I guess what I?m saying is I?m not looking for a total project or an incomplete car.? Blown engines, etc are fine.

Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.
I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the traditional pre-1972 prep level.
Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
Thx,
Scott Janzen

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From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 19:03:57 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 19:15:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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From jhouathome at aol.com  Fri Oct  6 17:16:42 2023
From: jhouathome at aol.com (jhouathome at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 23:16:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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Hi Scott. ?I?m 5?10. ?The LeGrand and Kellison would be fine. ?The Ginetta might be tight for you, but could possibly work. ?I?ll pull together info and send it your way. ?I?m in the Minneapolis area. ?All cars have log books from VSCDA and/or SVRA.Thanks,?John


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On Friday, October 6, 2023, 6:04 PM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:

Could be interested in any of them. Photos and pricing would be great.Will a 6? driver fit comfortably?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2023, at 5:14 PM, jhouathome at aol.com wrote:



?Hi Scott,?I have 3?cars currently for sale. ?A really cool Kellison bodied TR4, race ready save for new tires. a ?69 Ginetta G15, race ready. ?1972 LeGrand 2 liter sports racer, 5 speed, getting close to engine rebuild time but still flys! ?All are solid, complete, present very well, and are rationally priced. ?PM me if interested for pictures and pricing.Thanks,John Houlton


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On Friday, October 6, 2023, 11:39 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.? In the Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared, could be an SCCA production class car.? Ideally I?d like something that is ?race ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing of course that all race cars continually need work. I guess what I?m saying is I?m not looking for a total project or an incomplete car.? Blown engines, etc are fine.

Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.
I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the traditional pre-1972 prep level.
Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
Thx,
Scott Janzen

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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  6 18:02:56 2023
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 20:02:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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Bill Tobin had a nice TR6 and noted in this forum he wanted to sell either
early this year or late last. But I haven't seen it on track if someone
bought it.

Bill? You out there? Still have your TR?

Brian

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 12:35?PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.  In the
> Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared, could
> be an SCCA production class car.  Ideally I?d like something that is ?race
> ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing of course that all race
> cars continually need work. I guess what I?m saying is I?m not looking for
> a total project or an incomplete car.  Blown engines, etc are fine.
>
> Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports
> racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.
> I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of
> events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the
> traditional pre-1972 prep level.
> Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
> Thx,
> Scott Janzen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Thu Oct  5 08:42:30 2023
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 09:42:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings,
 OK - respirator pickup
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Greg,
I should have copied you on this. Tom may decide to drive out in the 
250. If not, John Phillips or Mike Piggott may know someone that could 
arrange with Tom to pick it up and take it out.
 ?- Larry

On 10/5/2023 8:44 AM, Larry Young wrote:
> Dusty,
> Greg said he was interested, but then I didn't hear anything final. 
> I'm out of town, but my son, Tom, is just up the street, Tulsa 
> midtown. Not sure about getting it out to Hallett. Sorry I'm gonna 
> miss it.
> ?- Larry
>
> On 10/5/2023 7:45 AM, dustin nicholson wrote:
>> Larry, am I the delivery boy to pick up a respirator you have for 
>> Greg Blake? He mentioned it the other day but that?s all I know. If 
>> so, where do I find you? Tulsa?
>>
>> Dusty Nicholson
>> 281-871-9623
>>
>>> On Oct 4, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Larry Young <cartravel at pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ? Mike had a senor moment. He meant CVAR. Be sure to give him grief. 
>>> Sorry I won't make it.
>>>
>>> On 10/4/2023 7:53 PM, dustin nicholson wrote:
>>>> I?ll be racing the 1957 TR3 ?Daytona? car and the 1957 Arnold 
>>>> Special will also be running, those are the only Triumphs that will 
>>>> be at Hallett this weekend, so I guess that makes us the Triumph 
>>>> Heritage Group whatever that is!
>>>>
>>>> Dusty Nicholson
>>>> 281-871-9623
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Larry Young via Fot 
>>>>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ? What is the Triumph Heritage Motor Racing Group?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>> Subject: 	COVTR Outing to Hallet Motor Racing, Jennings, OK
>>>>> Date: 	Wed, 4 Oct 2023 01:57:01 +0000
>>>>> From: 	Mike Piggott <mike_piggott at hotmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> 	
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Triumph Heritage Motor racing group will be competing at 
>>>>> Hallet this weekend.? Friday is tune-up and practice. Saturday and 
>>>>> Sunday will feature two races per day.? One at 10 and the other at 
>>>>> 1.? Lonny Wall will lead a caravan from the Welcome Center at 
>>>>> 122^nd street/I35 starting at 8 am Saturday.? ?I will depart 
>>>>> Shawnee at 8am.? Drive your Triumph or whatever!? Should be a 
>>>>> great time!? $10 entry fee.? Bring your lunch or buy it on 
>>>>> site?likewise refreshments. See Hallet?s website/Facebook for the 
>>>>> rules. ?Please respond to this email if you plan to attend so that 
>>>>> we will leave no one behind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sat Oct  7 18:44:44 2023
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2023 19:44:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Photoshopping something of historical significance. Artist
 neede.
Message-ID: <E4BA7FC0-137F-4F58-AFF7-188AA80DE10D@gmail.com>

FOT,

At the Kastner Cup we did a photo-op of the TR250K and a Daytona Coupe together at VICTORY LANE.

Peter Brock was our guest but he was unavailable at the prescribed time.

We took a separate picture of Peter.

The plan is to photoshop his image onto shot	 of the two historic designs.

Can an anyone help?

Thank you.



Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Oct  9 06:29:18 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 08:29:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Oct  9 06:55:12 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 08:55:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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From jhouathome at aol.com  Mon Oct  9 09:43:34 2023
From: jhouathome at aol.com (jhouathome at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 15:43:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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Sorry for the delay. ?I was out of town last weekend. ?I?ll pull this together and get you info this afternoon.Again, my apologies!John


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Monday, October 9, 2023, 7:29 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:

Hi, John, looking forward to photos and info.Thx,Scott

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2023, at 5:14 PM, jhouathome at aol.com wrote:



?Hi Scott,?I have 3?cars currently for sale. ?A really cool Kellison bodied TR4, race ready save for new tires. a ?69 Ginetta G15, race ready. ?1972 LeGrand 2 liter sports racer, 5 speed, getting close to engine rebuild time but still flys! ?All are solid, complete, present very well, and are rationally priced. ?PM me if interested for pictures and pricing.Thanks,John Houlton


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On Friday, October 6, 2023, 11:39 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.? In the Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared, could be an SCCA production class car.? Ideally I?d like something that is ?race ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing of course that all race cars continually need work. I guess what I?m saying is I?m not looking for a total project or an incomplete car.? Blown engines, etc are fine.

Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.
I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the traditional pre-1972 prep level.
Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
Thx,
Scott Janzen

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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Oct  9 09:45:07 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 11:45:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted
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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Mon Oct  9 10:35:27 2023
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 12:35:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race Spitfire Gearshift and Transmission Question
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From solarant at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  9 13:18:54 2023
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 19:18:54 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Race Spitfire Gearshift and Transmission Question
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I have lots of stock spit/gt6 trannys.
I?m in southern NH just north of Fitchburg.

Anthony Parker, Mechanical Engineer
________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 12:35:27 PM
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Race Spitfire Gearshift and Transmission Question

After having my shift knob, break off in my hand at the threaded portion at Watkins Glen race two weeks ago, I was working on my car to replace the lever this morning.

The first thing I encountered was the top Bayonet mount is broken off on one side so only one side is engaging. Anyone have a replacement for those, especially in Eastern Mass)? Moss didn?t seem to have in stock.

 While I was checking and then adding gear oil, I finished up and I looked under my car, only to see a puddle growing under it from where it was leaking somewhere on the tail piece of the transmission.

After taking off the tunnel cover, I noticed it seems to be coming out of the speedometer cable mounting hole. With a race car not having a speedometer I?m wondering was there a plug there? That has now vacated the premises. I can?t imagine it was run open like that.  Trying to get this ready for HRG Thompson this Friday if I can.

Thanks for the help.

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2023, at 11:04 AM, Chuck WATSON via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Scott (or anyone).  My GT6 project is for sale.  Includes just about everything needed except final assembly.  Anyone can contact me at clw2000 at msn.com for pics and details if interested.


Thanks,
Chuck Watson
________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2023 12:29 PM
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted

I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.  In the Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared, could be an SCCA production class car.  Ideally I?d like something that is ?race ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing of course that all race cars continually need work. I guess what I?m saying is I?m not looking for a total project or an incomplete car.  Blown engines, etc are fine.

Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.
I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the traditional pre-1972 prep level.
Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
Thx,
Scott Janzen

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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Mon Oct  9 15:08:42 2023
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 17:08:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race Spitfire Gearshift and Transmission Question
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Thanks Scott and Anthony.

Bought out the local Autozone?s expandable rubber freeze plug selection.  

Heading to the drill press to drill some holes and dremel new bayonet slots at 90 degrees to original cap slots. (Hopefully, quicker than a trip to Anthology?s in Southern NH!) 

Had to Dremel some new tips on my snap ring pliers remove the flat circlip on the shift shaft.

Jim


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> 
> ?As to the Speedo, i typically use a plastic or rubber cap, similar to what you might find as a pipe cap on a copper pipe, or similar to the image attached, and a hose clamp. The only issue is depending on where your exhaust some may melt.
> Scott janzen GT 6
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2023, at 2:57 PM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?After having my shift knob, break off in my hand at the threaded portion at Watkins Glen race two weeks ago, I was working on my car to replace the lever this morning. 
>> 
>> The first thing I encountered was the top Bayonet mount is broken off on one side so only one side is engaging. Anyone have a replacement for those, especially in Eastern Mass)? Moss didn?t seem to have in stock.
>> 
>>  While I was checking and then adding gear oil, I finished up and I looked under my car, only to see a puddle growing under it from where it was leaking somewhere on the tail piece of the transmission.  
>> 
>> After taking off the tunnel cover, I noticed it seems to be coming out of the speedometer cable mounting hole. With a race car not having a speedometer I?m wondering was there a plug there? That has now vacated the premises. I can?t imagine it was run open like that.  Trying to get this ready for HRG Thompson this Friday if I can. 
>> 
>> Thanks for the help. 
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> ?
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From robertten1 at aol.com  Mon Oct  9 15:32:42 2023
From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 21:32:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race Spitfire Gearshift and Transmission Question
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 Sorry to hear of your troubles.? No I do not have any spare Top Cover Caps.? You could call Bit of Britain in Vermont? or check with Ted Schumacher.?As for the hole left by the missing speedo housing a cheap fix is a trip to local hardware store and look for an expandable rubber plug in the plumbing section ??? Be sure to first measure the opening in the tray then make the trip.
Wish you luck in the prep work and best of luck if you make to the track.
Bob T?
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 03:11:21 PM EDT, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 After having my shift knob, break off in my hand at the threaded portion at Watkins Glen race two weeks ago, I was working on my car to replace the lever this morning.?
The first thing I encountered was the top Bayonet mount is broken off on one side so only one side is engaging. Anyone have a replacement for those, especially in Eastern Mass)? Moss didn?t seem to have in stock.
?While I was checking and then adding gear oil, I finished up and I looked under my car, only to see a puddle growing under it from where it was leaking somewhere on the tail piece of the transmission. ?
After taking off the tunnel cover, I noticed it seems to be coming out of the speedometer cable mounting hole. With a race car not having a speedometer I?m wondering was there a plug there? That has now vacated the premises. I can?t imagine it was run open like that. ?Trying to get this ready for HRG Thompson this Friday if I can.?
Thanks for the help.?
Jim

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2023, at 11:04 AM, Chuck WATSON via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



? Scott (or anyone).? My GT6 project is for sale.? Includes just about everything needed except final assembly.? Anyone can contact me at clw2000 at msn.com for pics and details if interested.

Thanks,
Chuck Watson
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2023 12:29 PM
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Race car wanted?I?m still looking for a second race car to complement my GT6.? In the Triumph family, I?m interested in a TR6. Could be vintage prepared, could be an SCCA production class car.? Ideally I?d like something that is ?race ready? or something reasonably close, recognizing of course that all race cars continually need work. I guess what I?m saying is I?m not looking for a total project or an incomplete car.? Blown engines, etc are fine.

Heresy, but I?d also be interested in a non-Triumph race car- sports racer, anything European, Datsuns, no formula fords.
I intend to run vintage on the East Coast, but there are a couple of events, and also clubs (HSR) where the rules allow a wider range than the traditional pre-1972 prep level.
Plz let me know if you have something or know of someone who does.
Thx,
Scott Janzen

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon Oct  9 16:55:24 2023
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 17:55:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race Spitfire Gearshift and Transmission Question
In-Reply-To: <85166EAC-FC34-4D1C-B564-9C87C37536C7@comcast.net>
References: <ACAFB5F0-5F06-480D-A4E0-B26AD24DFACE@me.com>
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On my TR-4 after breaking off the threaded portion a 2nd time (welded it 
back on the 1st time), I ground the end down to a larger bolt size and 
threaded it so it would be more robust. Drilled and re-threaded the 
shift knob too.? Just a thought.

- Tony Drews

On 10/9/2023 4:08 PM, James Trudeau via Fot wrote:
> Thanks Scott and Anthony.
>
> Bought out the local Autozone?s expandable rubber freeze plug selection.
>
> Heading to the drill press to drill some holes and dremel new bayonet 
> slots at 90 degrees to original cap slots. (Hopefully, quicker than a 
> trip to Anthology?s in Southern NH!)
>
> Had to Dremel some new tips on my snap ring pliers remove the flat 
> circlip on the shift shaft.
>
> Jim
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 9, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
>>
>> ? As to the Speedo, i typically use a plastic or rubber cap, similar 
>> to what you might find as a pipe cap on a copper pipe, or similar to 
>> the image attached, and a hose clamp. The only issue is depending on 
>> where your exhaust some may melt.
>> Scott janzen GT 6
>>
>> image.png
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2023, at 2:57 PM, James Trudeau via Fot 
>>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ? After having my shift knob, break off in my hand at the threaded 
>>> portion at Watkins Glen race two weeks ago, I was working on my car 
>>> to replace the lever this morning.
>>>
>>> The first thing I encountered was the top Bayonet mount is broken 
>>> off on one side so only one side is engaging. Anyone have a 
>>> replacement for those, especially in Eastern Mass)? Moss didn?t seem 
>>> to have in stock.
>>>
>>> ?While I was checking and then adding gear oil, I finished up and I 
>>> looked under my car, only to see a puddle growing under it from 
>>> where it was leaking somewhere on the tail piece of the transmission.
>>>
>>> After taking off the tunnel cover, I noticed it seems to be coming 
>>> out of the speedometer cable mounting hole. With a race car not 
>>> having a speedometer I?m wondering was there a plug there? That has 
>>> now vacated the premises. I can?t imagine it was run open like that. 
>>> ?Trying to get this ready for HRG Thompson this Friday if I can.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 10 14:30:52 2023
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 20:30:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Darn It!
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Doing a routine engine check on Sunday - found a problem with the intake valve on one cylinder. Pulled the head and valve - there's a burn mark on the back face of the intake valve. Lapped it and the seal surface looks good, did a temporary installation and leak-down check. No go, still getting roughly 40% leakdown past the intake.
Drat.
Spending time tonight trying to get the backup cylinder head prepped an installed.
I need to make a race weekend starting on FRI (racing FRI/SAT at Thompson.
On the one hand, I'm glad I found it - the engine sounded fine. But the leak-down test didn't lie. Glad I pulled it before I broke something. Hopefully, the head is salvageable. 

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From bownes at seiri.com  Tue Oct 10 15:18:58 2023
From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 17:18:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Looking for empty trailer heading northeast
Message-ID: <5F7E79BE-C12A-47E1-B157-CB817BFBCEDE@seiri.com>


I know it?s an incredibly longshot, but does anyone happen to have an empty trailer heading north east from Texas? Pacific endpoints are Houston and Troy New York, but I can make both ends a flexible.

I have a chance to pick up a vintage race car at a very decent price, but I don?t really want to fly to Texas, pick up the truck and a trailer, and drive it home. I?d go with one of the normal rental, you ship, kind of folk, but it?s not gonna be a trivial load and go as it is a Formula car.

Many thanks!
Bob

From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 10 16:52:57 2023
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 22:52:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Darn It!
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 Bob, often machine shops can install valve seats, if the current seat is cracked or too deep.? Might need to do the exhaust seat at the same time.JoeB
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 04:50:16 PM EDT, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Doing a routine engine check on Sunday - found a problem with the intake valve on one cylinder. Pulled the head and valve - there's a burn mark on the back face of the intake valve. Lapped it and the seal surface looks good, did a temporary installation and leak-down check. No go, still getting roughly 40% leakdown past the intake.
Drat.
Spending time tonight trying to get the backup cylinder head prepped an installed.
I need to make a race weekend starting on FRI (racing FRI/SAT at Thompson.
On the one hand, I'm glad I found it - the engine sounded fine. But the leak-down test didn't lie. Glad I pulled it before I broke something. Hopefully, the head is salvageable. 

Regards,Bob Lang
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 09:50:45 2023
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:50:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Stolen GT6 racecar Arizona
Message-ID: <CAMmo4o-uL1CHMM0ecxqOgoqyoZo6O8vKrEffezEm4wj+ijAWkQ@mail.gmail.com>

I just got word that Stephen Jones' GT6 race car /trailer etc were stolen
overnight from his place in Arizona.  Please keep your eyes open out there!
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From whitedog72 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 11 12:03:57 2023
From: whitedog72 at hotmail.com (f s)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 18:03:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Stolen GT6 racecar Arizona
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Any pictures of it?



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device



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Date: 10/11/23 12:46 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: FOT list <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Stolen GT6 racecar Arizona

I just got word that Stephen Jones' GT6 race car /trailer etc were stolen overnight from his place in Arizona.  Please keep your eyes open out there!



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From britracer89 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 11 15:08:09 2023
From: britracer89 at yahoo.com (Brian Dennis)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:08:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Stolen GT6 racecar Arizona
In-Reply-To: <CAMmo4o-uL1CHMM0ecxqOgoqyoZo6O8vKrEffezEm4wj+ijAWkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <457498648.11796701.1697058489509@mail.yahoo.com>

Any photos of the car and trailer!


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, October 11, 2023, 1:52 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I just got word that Stephen Jones' GT6 race car?/trailer etc were stolen overnight from his place in Arizona.? Please keep your eyes open out there!


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From jsukey at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 15:39:50 2023
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 17:39:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Stolen GT6 racecar Arizona
In-Reply-To: <457498648.11796701.1697058489509@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAMmo4o-uL1CHMM0ecxqOgoqyoZo6O8vKrEffezEm4wj+ijAWkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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You guys must have not received the picture attached to my first email.

Jason

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 5:08 PM Brian Dennis <britracer89 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Any photos of the car and trailer!
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023, 1:52 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I just got word that Stephen Jones' GT6 race car /trailer etc were stolen
> overnight from his place in Arizona.  Please keep your eyes open out there!
>
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From gt6racer at msn.com  Wed Oct 11 18:40:28 2023
From: gt6racer at msn.com (Andrew Devenish)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 00:40:28 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Stolen GT6 racecar Arizona
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It was in Jason's email as an attachment. This car was built by Clark Lincoln to run EP SCCA, but now converted for vintage.[Image.png]

Thank you,
Andrew
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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 5:08:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Stolen GT6 racecar Arizona

Any photos of the car and trailer!


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On Wednesday, October 11, 2023, 1:52 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I just got word that Stephen Jones' GT6 race car /trailer etc were stolen overnight from his place in Arizona.  Please keep your eyes open out there!



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From rpierce141 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 06:57:03 2023
From: rpierce141 at gmail.com (Rod Pierce)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:57:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
Message-ID: <CAELLCgcNsD5BYNoAjZBF4sTCJH_VDq9ibpWwiohvowW9ZTu=uQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can
be converted to run in a Spitfire.

I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for
information/advice on the best way to do it.

It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either
machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire
and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.

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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu Oct 12 07:31:10 2023
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:31:10 +0000
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local racer-transmission guy.  After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.  GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.  It worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.

Could just be luck?  I understand that there are a number of variations of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched?  Who knows.  But it worked for me.

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Rod Pierce via Fot
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
To: Rod Pierce via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion

I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Spitfire.

I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for information/advice on the best way to do it.

It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.

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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu Oct 12 08:08:46 2023
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 14:08:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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No welding is required. The GT6 input needs to be cut to the same length as the Spit. Then the splines need to be machined back to match the length of the Spit as well and you are good to go. It's really quite simple. Don't forget to use my steel/carbon synchro's for the most pleasant shifting experience. ;-)
Rick Parent
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    On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 06:50:51 AM MST, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
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When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local racer-transmission guy.? After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.? GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.? It worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.
 
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Could just be luck?? I understand that there are a number of variations of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched?? Who knows.? But it worked for me.
 
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Scott (B.)
 
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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf OfRod Pierce via Fot
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
To: Rod Pierce via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
 
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I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Spitfire.??
 
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I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for information/advice on the best way to do it.
 
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It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.
 
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Thanks
 
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From spitlist at cox.net  Thu Oct 12 08:33:02 2023
From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 10:33:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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Since the GT6 gearbox has a different gearset than the Spitfire has, I can't see how that would work.  The first gear for the 3-rail Spitfire has a ratio of 3.75 compared to 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the input shaft gear won't mesh with the gears in the GT6 box.  Here is a link to the summary of what I did way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox to work with a small journal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 Spit:  https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html.
 
Joe

> On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local racer-transmission guy.  After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.  GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.  It worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.
> 
>  
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> Could just be luck?  I understand that there are a number of variations of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched?  Who knows.  But it worked for me.
> 
>  
> 
> Scott (B.)
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>  
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> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Rod Pierce via Fot
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
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> Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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>  
> 
> I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Spitfire.  
> 
>  
> 
> I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for information/advice on the best way to do it.
> 
>  
> 
> It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.
> 
>  
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> Thanks
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu Oct 12 08:35:07 2023
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 14:35:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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And yet it worked fine.  Perfectly.  Go figure.

Scott (B.)

From: JOE CURRY <spitlist at cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:33 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>; Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>; Rod Pierce <rpierce141 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion

Since the GT6 gearbox has a different gearset than the Spitfire has, I can't see how that would work.  The first gear for the 3-rail Spitfire has a ratio of 3.75 compared to 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the input shaft gear won't mesh with the gears in the GT6 box.  Here is a link to the summary of what I did way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox to work with a small journal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 Spit:  https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html.

Joe
On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local racer-transmission guy.  After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.  GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.  It worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.

Could just be luck?  I understand that there are a number of variations of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched?  Who knows.  But it worked for me.

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Rod Pierce via Fot
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
To: Rod Pierce via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion

I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Spitfire.

I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for information/advice on the best way to do it.

It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.

Thanks


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From spitlist at cox.net  Thu Oct 12 09:12:22 2023
From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:12:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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If I had a GT6 gearbox, I would compare the input shaft gear with one of the Spit input shafts I have just to see what gives.
 
Joe

> On 10/12/2023 10:35 AM EDT Barr, Scott <sbarr at mccarty-law.com> wrote:
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> 
> And yet it worked fine.  Perfectly.  Go figure.
> 
>  
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> Scott (B.)
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> From: JOE CURRY <spitlist at cox.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:33 AM
> To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>; Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>; Rod Pierce <rpierce141 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
> 
>  
> 
> Since the GT6 gearbox has a different gearset than the Spitfire has, I can't see how that would work.  The first gear for the 3-rail Spitfire has a ratio of 3.75 compared to 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the input shaft gear won't mesh with the gears in the GT6 box.  Here is a link to the summary of what I did way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox to work with a small journal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 Spit:  https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html.
> 
>  
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> Joe
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> > On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local racer-transmission guy.  After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.  GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.  It worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Could just be luck?  I understand that there are a number of variations of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched?  Who knows.  But it worked for me.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Scott (B.)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Rod Pierce via Fot
> > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
> > To: Rod Pierce via Fot <fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
> > Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Spitfire.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for information/advice on the best way to do it.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks
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> > 
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From solarant at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 12 11:20:45 2023
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:20:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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The published ratios are obviously a combination of two real ratios, so it's theoretically possible.

When I was investigating this swap years ago, I seem to remember one hurtle was a miss match between the pilot diameter on the main shaft and the bore in the input shaft. Several different caged needle bearing options as well. Can't remember if I found a combination. Other things took over.

Begs the question, were there ever two transmissions made with the same parts? ?




Anthony Parker, Mechanical Engineer
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Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 12:37 PM
To: Barr, Scott; Barr, Scott via Fot; Rod Pierce
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion

Since the GT6 gearbox has a different gearset than the Spitfire has, I can't see how that would work.  The first gear for the 3-rail Spitfire has a ratio of 3.75 compared to 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the input shaft gear won't mesh with the gears in the GT6 box.  Here is a link to the summary of what I did way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox to work with a small journal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 Spit:  https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html.

Joe
On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local racer-transmission guy.  After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.  GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.  It worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.

Could just be luck?  I understand that there are a number of variations of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched?  Who knows.  But it worked for me.

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Rod Pierce via Fot
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
To: Rod Pierce via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion

I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Spitfire.

I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for information/advice on the best way to do it.

It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.

Thanks


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From gt6racer at msn.com  Thu Oct 12 11:39:31 2023
From: gt6racer at msn.com (Andrew Devenish)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:39:31 +0000
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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This is interesting... As I understand it, the input gear drives the layshaft. Lock the input to the output and you have 1:1 4th gear.  To make a close ratio box, they could have changed the input-layshaft ratio, in which case the input shafts would not be interchangeable between the spit and GT6, but the 1-3 gear sets could be. Alternately they could also use the same input-layshaft  gearset and then change the three lower ratio gearsets. In the latter case the input shafts could indeed be interchangeable...
If you look at the 1-3 ratios in Joe's link, the Spit and GT6 ratios do not scale by a fixed factor - indicating it is not simply a change of input-layshaft ratio. This means that the 1-3 gearsets are different, and the input-layshaft could be common. Of course it's also possible they changed both the layshaft and the 1-3 ratios..


Thank you,

                      Andrew

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And yet it worked fine.  Perfectly.  Go figure.



Scott (B.)



From: JOE CURRY <spitlist at cox.net>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion



Since the GT6 gearbox has a different gearset than the Spitfire has, I can't see how that would work.  The first gear for the 3-rail Spitfire has a ratio of 3.75 compared to 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the input shaft gear won't mesh with the gears in the GT6 box.  Here is a link to the summary of what I did way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox to work with a small journal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 Spit:  https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html.



Joe

On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:





When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local racer-transmission guy.  After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.  GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.  It worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.



Could just be luck?  I understand that there are a number of variations of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched?  Who knows.  But it worked for me.



Scott (B.)



From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Rod Pierce via Fot
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
To: Rod Pierce via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion



I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Spitfire.



I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for information/advice on the best way to do it.



It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.



Thanks





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From fubog1 at aol.com  Thu Oct 12 12:19:53 2023
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 18:19:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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 Are you sure that it was a GT-6 gearset, ie not spit internals?
Glen Efinger

    On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 01:10:00 PM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
And yet it worked fine.? Perfectly.? Go figure.
 
 ?
 
Scott (B.)
 
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Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
 
 ?
 
Since the GT6 gearbox has a different gearset than the Spitfire has, I can't see how that would work.? The first gear for the 3-rail Spitfire has a ratio of 3.75 compared to 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the input shaft gear won't mesh with the gears in the GT6 box.? Here is a link to the summary of what I did way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox to work with a small journal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 Spit: ?https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html.
 
? 
 
Joe 
 

On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 
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When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local racer-transmission guy.? After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.? GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.? It worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.
 
?
 
Could just be luck?? I understand that there are a number of variations of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched?? Who knows.? But it worked for me.
 
?
 
Scott (B.)
 
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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Rod Pierce via Fot
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
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Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
 
?
 
I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Spitfire.??
 
?
 
I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for information/advice on the best way to do it.
 
?
 
It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.
 
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From robertten1 at aol.com  Thu Oct 12 18:15:14 2023
From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 00:15:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire to GT6 Conversion
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INTERESTING,
My experience is the 2 input shafts are not interchangeable.? ?There is also a difference between the early and late GT6 transmissions.Thus had my input shafts modified by Quantum Mechanics.? Clutch disc required is avalable front Ted at TSImpored.
My 2 cents,Bob T?64 Spit GT? Autocrosser?
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From solarant at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 13 06:35:12 2023
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:35:12 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl. tappet removal
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Has anyone successfully modified the 6 cyl. heads to allow for tappet removal with the head installed on the block?
I would really like to be able to check for tappet and cam wear without the trouble of removing the head.

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From jason at jsperformancemotoring.com  Fri Oct 13 07:36:05 2023
From: jason at jsperformancemotoring.com (JS Performance Motoring, LLC)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 09:36:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl. tappet removal
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Anthony,

       Seeing as how the tappets must come up above the deck surface of the
block to remove them, you'd basically have to project all 12 tappet bores
up through the head.  I don't think there is enough material in the head to
do that without breaking through.  This is a great idea, and I'd love to be
wrong, so if you figure out a good solution, please do share!


Jason Sukey
JS Performance Motoring, LLC
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jason at jsperformancemotoring.com
https://www.facebook.com/JSPerformanceMotoring/


On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 9:08?AM Anthony Parker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Has anyone successfully modified the 6 cyl. heads to allow for tappet
> removal with the head installed on the block?
> I would really like to be able to check for tappet and cam wear without
> the trouble of removing the head.
>
> Thank you,
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 13 08:37:07 2023
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 14:37:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl. tappet removal
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 Anthony, while not the same engine or exactly what you asked about, I have used magnets to hold the lifters up on my TR3 engine to pull the cam out.? Still need to take apart the front of the engine and remove radiator to make enough room to work and get cam out.??JoeB
    On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 09:16:04 AM EDT, Anthony Parker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Has anyone successfully modified the 6 cyl. heads to allow for tappet removal with the head installed on the block?I would really like to be able to check for tappet and cam wear without the trouble of removing the head.
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri Oct 13 08:46:06 2023
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 14:46:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl. tappet removal
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 Nope, not that I'm aware of, it would be nice though.Mr dial indicator is your friend, although it won't tell the condition of the cam/tappet interface, you'll know if the lobes are starting to wear.
Glen Efinger

    On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 09:13:41 AM EDT, Anthony Parker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Has anyone successfully modified the 6 cyl. heads to allow for tappet removal with the head installed on the block?I would really like to be able to check for tappet and cam wear without the trouble of removing the head.
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Fri Oct 13 08:57:03 2023
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 14:57:03 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl. tappet removal
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Was wondering if you could do something like on an Austin Healey six cylinder where they have view ports in the side of the block. I have no idea if it could be done or how to do it!!!

Thanks
Mike

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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of JS Performance Motoring, LLC via Fot
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 9:36 AM
To: Anthony Parker <solarant at hotmail.com>
Cc: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cyl. tappet removal

Anthony,

       Seeing as how the tappets must come up above the deck surface of the block to remove them, you'd basically have to project all 12 tappet bores up through the head.  I don't think there is enough material in the head to do that without breaking through.  This is a great idea, and I'd love to be wrong, so if you figure out a good solution, please do share!


Jason Sukey
JS Performance Motoring, LLC
440.984.7720
jason at jsperformancemotoring.com<mailto:jason at jsperformancemotoring.com>
https://www.facebook.com/JSPerformanceMotoring/


On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 9:08?AM Anthony Parker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Has anyone successfully modified the 6 cyl. heads to allow for tappet removal with the head installed on the block?
I would really like to be able to check for tappet and cam wear without the trouble of removing the head.

Thank you,
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Fri Oct 13 10:10:13 2023
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:10:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl. tappet removal
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I just monitor valve lash closely, if a valve suddenly gets way loose we
have a problem. Pulling tappets just to put an eyeball on them between
times when the head needs to come off seems like a valuable thing to
have, but I am don't think it is worth the effort to modify the head. As
Jason states, there is always a chance of not enough material where it
needs to be. I like to run the engine with the valve cover off for a few
seconds every few events to verify the push rods are spinning, if all
are spinning that indicates to me the cam/tappet interface should be
doing what it is supposed to. Yes, oil splashing about is an issue doing
this, don't rev the motor! 

If you are truly intent on seeing the tappet face and the cam lobe, I
see no reason you couldn't use a borescope. You would need to pull the
tappet out of its bore, lay it on its side on the shelf above the tappet
bores, and fish the borescope down there for a quick view, then
reinstall the tappet. If I had reason to suspect one bad lifter, I might
try this, but to do all 12, I don't think so. 

On a related note, I know getting lifters lined up in their galleries
with the head installed on the wet liner TR engines is a real treat. The
good news is if you turn the engine upside down on the engine stand
without the rocker shaft and push rods in place, after you suffer
through the agony of fishing all the tappets back into the bores with
your only access through the push rod tubes, you will have learned a
valuable lesson and never pull off that rookie error again!  Don't ask
how I know this... 

Henry  

On 2023-10-13 08:35, Anthony Parker via Fot wrote:

> Has anyone successfully modified the 6 cyl. heads to allow for tappet removal with the head installed on the block? 
> I would really like to be able to check for tappet and cam wear without the trouble of removing the head.
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri Oct 13 11:38:48 2023
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:38:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl. tappet removal
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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Oct 13 12:50:00 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 14:50:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] O rings in tr6 strombergs
Message-ID: <4E1A4CD7-804E-444A-AF81-34D37821B362@me.com>

I need to replace the o-rings on the bronze fitting at the bottom of the carb.  Looks like they are 5/8? ID. Does anyone have the OD or the thickness dimension? Figured I?d just get some from McMaster.
Scott
Sent from my iPhone

From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Oct 13 15:48:12 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 17:48:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] O rings in tr6 strombergs
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Should have said brass fittings.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2023, at 5:04?PM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I need to replace the o-rings on the bronze fitting at the bottom of the carb.  Looks like they are 5/8? ID. Does anyone have the OD or the thickness dimension? Figured I?d just get some from McMaster.
> Scott
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From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com  Fri Oct 13 17:20:18 2023
From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 16:20:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] O rings in tr6 strombergs
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I believe that Moss Motors has the correct "o" rings in available.  The 
difficult thing about replacing them is getting the retaining springs that 
hold the brass fittings down at the bottom of the damper oil chamber out 
without scoring the sides of the oil chamber.
                                                                             
                                    Greg Solow
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> Should have said brass fittings.
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 13, 2023, at 5:04?PM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?I need to replace the o-rings on the bronze fitting at the bottom of the 
>> carb.  Looks like they are 5/8? ID. Does anyone have the OD or the 
>> thickness dimension? Figured I?d just get some from McMaster.
>> Scott
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 08:14:27 2023
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 09:14:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?b?TWFraW5nIHRoZSBDb3ZlcuKApi4u?=
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We are now gearing up for the next big Kastner Cup at Sonoma, as produced by Curt Johnston.  April 2024. Stay tuned for announcements by Curt.

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From solarant at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 17 19:09:26 2023
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 01:09:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Runoffs
Message-ID: <SN7PR19MB7501474A2593ABDAE55830ACD7D5A@SN7PR19MB7501.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

For anyone who has hours to look at race car pictures, here you go.
This group might focus on HP, FP, and EP.

https://scca.smugmug.com/2023-Runoffs-Photo-Sales/n-zQBT5b<https://click.pstmrk.it/3s/scca.smugmug.com%2F2023-Runoffs-Photo-Sales%2Fn-zQBT5b/cP88/G7WwAQ/AQ/464b1db9-34a7-46fa-9fb6-4ad58b557257/2/yAUZ_Tzd6K>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Oct 17 21:17:59 2023
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 22:17:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Videos from Ozarks International Raceway last weekend
Message-ID: <f76f0763-22c8-0c26-89f6-1f47db9766dc@tonydrews.com>

Ozarks International Raceway is an AMAZING track.? Huge elevation 
changes, blind fast corners, fantastic sensation of speed.? Just what I 
want when racing.? Highly recommended.? Garages are cheap, roomy and 
open to each other so it's a big party there.? All races were hard fought.

Saturday morning race
Damp track
Good race with Thomas Schluter, Porsche 914, won
https://youtu.be/B7tmoR8_CU0

Saturday afternoon race
Start on pole, great battle with Jim Donato for 4th
https://youtu.be/2CmVVWprU5E

Sunday morning race
Great battle with Kent Prather and especially Jim Donato.? Finish 2nd 
behind Kent.
https://youtu.be/zX8EkT8qvG8

Sunday afternoon race
Start on pole, great battle for the lead with Dave Amys.? Lose 4th gear 
at start of last lap, so finish 2nd - Dave wins!
https://youtu.be/WYzlNYtf7oY

Cheers, Tony Drews


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Oct 18 05:30:26 2023
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:30:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Runoffs
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But if you want to watch the drive of the event, check out my buddy Jason Martin driving in F600.  Amazing.

Scott (B.)

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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 8:09 PM
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Subject: [Fot] SCCA Runoffs

For anyone who has hours to look at race car pictures, here you go.
This group might focus on HP, FP, and EP.

https://scca.smugmug.com/2023-Runoffs-Photo-Sales/n-zQBT5b<https://click.pstmrk.it/3s/scca.smugmug.com%2F2023-Runoffs-Photo-Sales%2Fn-zQBT5b/cP88/G7WwAQ/AQ/464b1db9-34a7-46fa-9fb6-4ad58b557257/2/yAUZ_Tzd6K>
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From jaxonmotorsports44 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 18 06:01:59 2023
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 08:01:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Runoffs
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From walje at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 18 10:36:36 2023
From: walje at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS WALJE)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:36:36 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Radius rod
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> Date: October 18, 2023 at 11:35:19 AM CDT
> To: fot-owner at autox.team.net
> Subject: Radius rod
> 
> ?Friends
> 
> Does anyone know a source for GT6 radius rods. 
> 
> I?m looking for adjustable radius rods to fit 68 MK1 with spherical rod ends. 
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> Thanks
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> Dennis Walje
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From solarant at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 18 11:22:58 2023
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:22:58 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Radius rod
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Assemble them from the following.

https://www.colemanracing.com/Chassis-Suspension/Tie-Rods-Rod-Ends/Tie-Rod-58-LR-Thread-Swedged-Steel

https://www.colemanracing.com/Chassis-Suspension/Rod-Ends-Jam-Nuts/Rod-Ends-Heavy-Duty

https://www.mcmaster.com/4723T1/


Can't remember what's the mounting bolt diameter at each end.  I'm guessing 3/8".


Or spec. your own from these very nice parts.
http://www.woodwardsteering.com/PDF/9.%20Tie%20Rods%20and%20Suspension%20Links.pdf



Many roundy-round on-line shops will have soo many options that your head will spin.





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Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Radius rod



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Date: October 18, 2023 at 11:35:19 AM CDT
To: fot-owner at autox.team.net
Subject: Radius rod

?Friends

Does anyone know a source for GT6 radius rods.

I?m looking for adjustable radius rods to fit 68 MK1 with spherical rod ends.

Thanks

Dennis Walje


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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Oct 18 11:30:32 2023
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 13:30:32 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Radius rod
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Dennis, I use these rods from Speedway Motors, various lengths and
diameters available, depending on your current set up.
3/8 24 shown also available in 5/8"
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Aluminum-Swedged-Rods-3-8-24-Threads,5891.html

Pretty standard stuff from most dirt track and speed shop suppliers.

mike h

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> Does anyone know a source for GT6 radius rods.
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> I?m looking for adjustable radius rods to fit 68 MK1 with spherical rod
> ends.
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> Thanks
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Wed Oct 18 20:55:45 2023
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 02:55:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Videos from Ozarks International Raceway last weekend
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Another great production, great racing as well.  Hope you find the parts to fix the transmission over the winter.  Winter for us doesn't start until the end of December, Road Atlanta 11/10 and Turkey Bown 11/17, Savannah Roebling Road 12/8. Don't know if I'll make Turkey Bowl this year, knees and neuropathy in my feet make it hard on long trips.  CHEERS, see you at VIR in April......



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-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 11:18 PM
To: Amici Triumphi <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Videos from Ozarks International Raceway last weekend

Ozarks International Raceway is an AMAZING track.? Huge elevation changes, blind fast corners, fantastic sensation of speed.? Just what I want when racing.? Highly recommended.? Garages are cheap, roomy and open to each other so it's a big party there.? All races were hard fought.

Saturday morning race
Damp track
Good race with Thomas Schluter, Porsche 914, won
https://youtu.be/B7tmoR8_CU0

Saturday afternoon race
Start on pole, great battle with Jim Donato for 4th https://youtu.be/2CmVVWprU5E

Sunday morning race
Great battle with Kent Prather and especially Jim Donato.? Finish 2nd behind Kent.
https://youtu.be/zX8EkT8qvG8

Sunday afternoon race
Start on pole, great battle for the lead with Dave Amys.? Lose 4th gear at start of last lap, so finish 2nd - Dave wins!
https://youtu.be/WYzlNYtf7oY

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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Sun Oct 22 14:56:55 2023
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 13:56:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Critical Kastner Cup Update - New Date!
Message-ID: <348881217.79721.1698008215653@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,
 
Below is a report and critical update on the 2024 Kastner Cup at Sonoma Raceway.  The updated Kastner Cup poster is attached.
 
Revised Race Date (Now April 18-21).
 
SVRA had a signed contract with Sonoma Raceway for the last weekend in April which, is why we announced the 2024 date at Road America.  Unfortunately, Sonoma Raceway forced SVRA to move the SpeedTour event up a week to April 18-21 (Thursday-Sunday).  This threw a wrench in SVRA plans for back-to-back race weekends at Sonoma and Laguna Seca, but if you?re able to make both races it will be worth the effort.  SVRA is offering us a Kastner Cup/Triumph Feature Race on Sunday at Laguna Seca if we have enough cars registered.
 
Triumph to be Featured Marque
 
Triumphs will be the featured marque at the Sonoma SpeedTour.  There will not be a National Trans Am race, so we will have the top billing.  SVRA has asked for our suggestions for a Grand Marshall of the entire race weekend.  As the featured marque, we will also have coverage in the SpeedTour Magazine which now has a distribution of 30,000 copies.  Also, SVRA is looking into the cost of preparing ?Hero Cards? for all Triumph racers (a business card with an image of your car).  SVRA did this in the past, but they want to bring it back on a limited basis with ?Collectors Series? for cars in the featured marques.
 
Car Preparation Rules
 
SVRA will allow us to determine race group rules.  There only concern is safety, so cars will be teched on that basis.  However, SVRA reserves the right to place cars in an appropriate run group (other than for Kastner Cup) based on modifications and equipment (e.g.; slick tires usually means placing a car in a faster group).  Cars running out of class will not be eligible for a podium position in that class (again, this does not apply to the Kastner Cup).
 
Registration Discounts ? Free Test Days!
    * SVRA will offer a free Thursday Test Day (over $300 value) for all Kastner Cup/Triumph registrants at both Sonoma and Laguna Seca.
    * On Black Friday/Cyber Monday, the regular registration amounts will be discounted. So please register that weekend if possible.  Early registration benefits drivers with reduced costs and the Kastner Cup as it allows SVRA to lock in our practice/race group schedule early.
Race Weekend Schedule
    * Triumphs will run in their respective Run Groups for practice, unless we have a large group of 35 or more cars that would justify our own group.
    * SVRA will provide one or two Feature Races on Saturday/Sunday depending on the number of cars registered. Again, a large group will allow us to run two exclusive Kastner Cup races (KCup and Reunion).  If we have a small group, the Kastner Cup race would be on Sunday.
    * Assuming we have enough cars for two featured races, the Kastner Cup will be awarded after the Saturday race as is the tradition.
Other Activities
    * Huffaker Motorsports agreed to host a social event for us on Friday. Their shop is located at the track up the hill from the paddock.
    * The British Sportscar Hall Of Fame may have a presence on Friday, but it is undetermined now.
    * SVRA will reserve a garage for the Kastner Cup so we can host social events and present the Kastner Cup Awards.
    * The Kastner Cup group will be assigned paddock space together, but we need to coordinate the space required by getting trailer length information from each driver. This will significantly lower our stress finding good space in the paddock.  Please pass on to me the length of your trailer so we can plan space for everyone.
Trailer Storage for Layovers to Laguna
    * SVRA is attempting to negotiate trailer storage between races with the tracks. It is available, but they are trying to lower the cost.
Laguna Seca Race Weekend (two weekends later)
    * If you sign up for the Laguna Seca race, SVRA will provide a free Thursday Practice Day ($350+ value).
    * If there is enough Triumphs registered, we will get a Triumph/Kastner Cup Feature Race on Sunday at Laguna Seca!
Social Activities Between Races
 
For those that stay in California between races, the Committee will organize some group activities.  This would likely include wine tasting, dinners, and a bit of sailing (Kastner Cup Sailing Club).
 
Hotels
 
We are researching hotels and will report back soon.  Feel free to pass on your suggestions to me.
 
Thanks!
 
Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun Oct 22 15:02:57 2023
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 17:02:57 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race Car Search
Message-ID: <165A8AC0-6031-41AF-9FD7-99B247737FEE@gmail.com>

Amici,

Reposting this from Facebook by Jeff Hackett:

Hi everyone 
My Dad owned a Triumph dealership Hackett Imported Cars in Westport,CT in the 1960?s and had a TR4 race car where they competed in the Northeast from 1963-1967. At that time the car was sold,  if I remember his name correctly , to Jim Grobb. Does anyone have any information to what possibly happened to the TR4? The TR4 was a baby blue at the time it was raced by my Fathers team.
Here is a picture of it in action at Lime Rock. Doug Given was the Driver.

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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 22 20:02:32 2023
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 02:02:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Toyota transmission clutch question
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We have used a Toyota w58 transmission for several years.and have great problems getting the transmission and bell housing reassembled very hard to get splines to line up for a good fit.? Any suggestions?

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From vfracing at aol.com  Mon Oct 23 04:23:40 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 06:23:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Toyota transmission clutch question
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 23 06:03:22 2023
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 08:03:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Toyota transmission clutch question
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 23 12:43:28 2023
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:43:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Toyota transmission clutch question
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 Mike and Phil.? What is the Toyota W-58 transmission?? Does it bolt right up to the TR block, or is an adapter plate required?? I have a Morgan and have a number of friends who have the Plus 4 model, which used the TR-3/4 engine.? Most of them came with the Moss box, so folks are looking for a good 5-speed replacement.
I would not be surprised to learn that the W-58 is a bolt-up.? When I was racing, I used an electronic distributor out of a Nissan/Datsun B-210 (and a number of other applications).? It fit right into the TR-4 block, all I had to do was change the drive gear.? And then there's the Miata.? The Japanese copied a lot from the British.
Thanks.
Jack

    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 07:11:30 AM EDT, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 A 3-4? guide pin in one of the bell housing bolt holes on the engine block and a Phillips screwdriver in a starter motor mounting hole helps a lot. Also putting the transmission ?in gear so you can rotate the splines by turning the tail shaft helps as well. Works on both a W-58 and a TR gearbox.Also, when you mount the pressure plate make sure the clutch alignment tool floats freely in the clutch.
Phil

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On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:07 AM, Mike Mehl via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?We have used a Toyota w58 transmission for several years.and have great problems getting the transmission and bell housing reassembled very hard to get splines to line up for a good fit.? Any suggestions?

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From vfracing at aol.com  Mon Oct 23 16:28:05 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:28:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Toyota transmission clutch question
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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Mon Oct 23 23:31:33 2023
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 05:31:33 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Toyota transmission clutch question
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The Morgan parts supply chain  have a kit for a Ford T9 , 5 speed . Much more compact than the alternatives.
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On Oct 23, 2023, at 9:29?PM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? Jack;
The W58 requires the Herman Van Den Acker conversion kit (available from Moss) which includes a new bell housing and a direct acting concentric slave cylinder to actuate the clutch. It has a very deep overdrive 5th gear. Great for highway cruising but alas too deep to be really helpful in racing.
Used w-58s are getting hard to find and some repair parts such as main shafts are said to be not available.  I would suggest you look into the Miata 5-speed conversion instead.
Regards,
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:

?
Mike and Phil.  What is the Toyota W-58 transmission?  Does it bolt right up to the TR block, or is an adapter plate required?  I have a Morgan and have a number of friends who have the Plus 4 model, which used the TR-3/4 engine.  Most of them came with the Moss box, so folks are looking for a good 5-speed replacement.

I would not be surprised to learn that the W-58 is a bolt-up.  When I was racing, I used an electronic distributor out of a Nissan/Datsun B-210 (and a number of other applications).  It fit right into the TR-4 block, all I had to do was change the drive gear.  And then there's the Miata.  The Japanese copied a lot from the British.

Thanks.

Jack

On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 07:11:30 AM EDT, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


A 3-4? guide pin in one of the bell housing bolt holes on the engine block and a Phillips screwdriver in a starter motor mounting hole helps a lot. Also putting the transmission  in gear so you can rotate the splines by turning the tail shaft helps as well. Works on both a W-58 and a TR gearbox.
Also, when you mount the pressure plate make sure the clutch alignment tool floats freely in the clutch.
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:07 AM, Mike Mehl via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?We have used a Toyota w58 transmission for several years.and have great problems getting the transmission and bell housing reassembled very hard to get splines to line up for a good fit.  Any suggestions

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Oct 25 14:50:17 2023
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (JOSEPH ALEXANDER)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 15:50:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Performance Racing Industry.  December 2023. Anybody going?
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From sonomascot at aol.com  Thu Oct 26 10:02:32 2023
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 16:02:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Very low mileage 1981 TR-7 for sale on Barn Finds, (last year),
 Only 580 original miles on the odometer-
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From walje at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 26 18:48:25 2023
From: walje at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS WALJE)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 19:48:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Starter
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> Date: October 26, 2023 at 7:15:07 PM CDT
> To: fot-owner at autox.team.net
> Subject: Starter
> 
> ?Friends
> 
> Has anyone had a problem with the Wosp gear reduction starter?  I installed one on a new engine and after 15/20 starts, the starter spins but does not engage the ring gear. Battery voltage is 12.60, engine is properly grounded, all cables, solenoid and wiring are new. 
> 
> Any recommendations on a gear reduction starter?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Dennis Walje
> 68 GT6 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Oct 26 23:39:41 2023
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 07:39:41 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Starter
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Hi,

 

there are several gear types on the flywheel and the gear on the starter needs to match.

There are pull push types, or push pull types, the engage flange need to fit and also the teeth distance and such stuff.

 

Besides that, those starters are quite reliable.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of DENNIS WALJE via Fot
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 2:48 AM
To: Amici Triumphi <fot at autox.team.net>
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Date: October 26, 2023 at 7:15:07 PM CDT
To: fot-owner at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-owner at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Starter

?Friends

Has anyone had a problem with the Wosp gear reduction starter?  I installed one on a new engine and after 15/20 starts, the starter spins but does not engage the ring gear. Battery voltage is 12.60, engine is properly grounded, all cables, solenoid and wiring are new. 

Any recommendations on a gear reduction starter?

Thanks

Dennis Walje
68 GT6 

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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Sat Oct 28 09:16:34 2023
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 15:16:34 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Starter
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I order mine from Ted Schumacker, never had any problems in my race car or street car. I have had same one in race car for 10 seasons.

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Mike

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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of DENNIS WALJE via Fot
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 8:48 PM
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Date: October 26, 2023 at 7:15:07 PM CDT
To: fot-owner at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-owner at autox.team.net>
Subject: Starter
?Friends

Has anyone had a problem with the Wosp gear reduction starter?  I installed one on a new engine and after 15/20 starts, the starter spins but does not engage the ring gear. Battery voltage is 12.60, engine is properly grounded, all cables, solenoid and wiring are new.

Any recommendations on a gear reduction starter?

Thanks

Dennis Walje
68 GT6

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From walje at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 28 13:18:47 2023
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:18:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Starter
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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Sat Oct 28 13:28:27 2023
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 15:28:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results
Message-ID: <143ACDB5-F1BA-4401-B5B7-47DB9F62DDA5@comcast.net>

I finished a 9 weekend race/school/track day season that started in April and finished at Thompson in October with no obvious performance problems. Total of 38 engine hours including warmup, grid, race, cool down. 

Did a dry compression test today:
210
225
195
200

I get some oil blow by at the valve cover cap and maybe some drips from lower end seals (not sure if oil starts at valve cover). 

I?m sure I?ll hear a suggestion to do a leak down test and / or wet compression. 

Oil filter forensics?

In the absence of obvious issues, how much of a tear down is warranted? 

Jim

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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Sat Oct 28 15:13:35 2023
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:13:35 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results
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It?ll never be any cheaper than right now ! If you?re planning on a similar number of events next year - pull the head and service the valve train and change the bearing out.
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2023, at 1:59?PM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? I finished a 9 weekend race/school/track day season that started in April and finished at Thompson in October with no obvious performance problems. Total of 38 engine hours including warmup, grid, race, cool down.

Did a dry compression test today:

  1.  210
  2.  225
  3.  195
  4.  200

I get some oil blow by at the valve cover cap and maybe some drips from lower end seals (not sure if oil starts at valve cover).

I?m sure I?ll hear a suggestion to do a leak down test and / or wet compression.

Oil filter forensics?

In the absence of obvious issues, how much of a tear down is warranted?

Jim

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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sat Oct 28 16:44:27 2023
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 18:44:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Starter
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Here is a wild guess... The Triumph 6 cylinder flywheels use a shrink
fit ring gear. The gear reduction starters push the bendix towards the
rear of the engine, and if the ring gear was installed with the beveled
teeth facing the rear of the car, not the front, I can see how the ring
gear might get pushed back so far that the pinion gear can't reach it
any more. Should be easy to check looking into the bellhousing where the
starter came out.  

On 2023-10-28 15:18, DENNIS WALJE via Fot wrote:

> Thanks to all for your help.  
> 
> Update:  I have pulled starter and bench tested it and it looks like it is working correctly. The pinion gear is moving out and spinning.  
> 
> Inspection of pinion gear shows contact pattern at less than 50%. Inspection of ring gear shows same patters. It looks like the pinion gear is not coming out far enough or failing to mesh with ring gear.  
> 
> Has anyone seen this?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:39 AM, tr4racing at googlemail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> there are several gear types on the flywheel and the gear on the starter needs to match. 
> 
> There are pull push types, or push pull types, the engage flange need to fit and also the teeth distance and such stuff. 
> 
> Besides that, those starters are quite reliable. 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Chris 
> 
> From: DENNIS WALJE via Fot
> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Starter 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> Begin forwarded message: 
> 
> From: DENNIS WALJE <walje at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Starter 
> 
> Friends
> 
> Has anyone had a problem with the Wosp gear reduction starter?  I installed one on a new engine and after 15/20 starts, the starter spins but does not engage the ring gear. Battery voltage is 12.60, engine is properly grounded, all cables, solenoid and wiring are new. 
> 
> Any recommendations on a gear reduction starter?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Dennis Walje
> 68 GT6
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Sat Oct 28 17:06:23 2023
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:06:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results
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If you can barrow a leak down tester that is still the best tool to assess engine health.  I also change oil filters after each race and cut it open to see what is trapped inside.   A well built TR race motor can easily do double those hours on the bottom end.  In my opinion the key to long tern motor health, assuming a good build, is a high quality race oil.  My choice is Joe Gibbs Driven XP-3 10-30, I have bearings that look almost new at 50 hrs. using this oil.  No such thing as ?cheap? racing oil.  ?Never be beaten by parts? K. Kastner.

Ken



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From: James Trudeau via Fot
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 2:06 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results

I finished a 9 weekend race/school/track day season that started in April and finished at Thompson in October with no obvious performance problems. Total of 38 engine hours including warmup, grid, race, cool down.?

Did a dry compression test today:
1. 210
2. 225
3. 195
4. 200

I get some oil blow by at the valve cover cap and maybe some drips from lower end seals (not sure if oil starts at valve cover).?

I?m sure I?ll hear a suggestion to do a leak down test and / or wet compression.?

Oil filter forensics?

In the absence of obvious issues, how much of a tear down is warranted??

Jim
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From jlesnowski at aol.com  Sat Oct 28 19:56:53 2023
From: jlesnowski at aol.com (jlesnowski)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:56:53 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Starter
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Message-ID: <924661510.78669.1698544619652@aol.com>

Hi Dennis,Yes, I have experienced the exact problem with a hitorque starter on an MGB motor in my Elva Courier.My solution was to purchase a spare pinion gear and with some judicious grinding on the gear nose got the toothed area to move further out to fully engage the ring gear.? Removing and replacing the pinion is very tricky but can be done.? You will wish you had a third hand.That's the easy part.? I found the ring gear badly burred? because of the minimum engagement.??At this point the motor was out of the car and the trans off.? I used a fine triangle file to dress all 130 odd teeth on the ring gear.? Not the best solution but it worked without replacing the ring gear.JoeSent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------From: yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 10/28/23  7:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Starter 
Here is a wild guess... The Triumph 6 cylinder flywheels use a shrink fit ring gear. The gear reduction starters push the bendix towards the rear of the engine, and if the ring gear was installed with the beveled teeth facing the rear of the car, not the front, I can see how the ring gear might get pushed back so far that the pinion gear can't reach it any more. Should be easy to check looking into the bellhousing where the starter came out.?
On 2023-10-28 15:18, DENNIS WALJE via Fot wrote:


Thanks to all for your help.?
?
Update: ?I have pulled starter and bench tested it and it looks like it is working correctly. The pinion gear is moving out and spinning.?
?
Inspection of pinion gear shows contact pattern at less than 50%. Inspection of ring gear shows same patters. It looks like the pinion gear is not coming out far enough or failing to mesh with ring gear.?
?
Has anyone seen this?
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Hi,
?
there are several gear types on the flywheel and the gear on the starter needs to match.
There are pull push types, or push pull types, the engage flange need to fit and also the teeth distance and such stuff.
?
Besides that, those starters are quite reliable.
?
Cheers
Chris
?


From:?DENNIS WALJE via FotSubject: [Fot] Fwd: Starter


?
?

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From: DENNIS WALJE <walje at sbcglobal.net>Subject: Starter




FriendsHas anyone had a problem with the Wosp gear reduction starter? ?I installed one on a new engine and after 15/20 starts, the starter spins but does not engage the ring gear. Battery voltage is 12.60, engine is properly grounded, all cables, solenoid and wiring are new. Any recommendations on a gear reduction starter?ThanksDennis Walje68 GT6










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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Sun Oct 29 07:45:47 2023
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 09:45:47 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results
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From: walje at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS WALJE)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 09:22:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Starter
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Sun Oct 29 08:32:49 2023
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:32:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results
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 Every engine will have a different service life, depending on state of development, tune, rpm range, general maintenance, etc.A competitive full-tilt National spec engine will likely get a freshen-up every weekend, a mild-tune/low rev Vintage engine can last seasons w/regular maintenance.Leakdown, oil filter inspection, valve lash check, oil pressure & temp readings, & plug check will give an idea of the engines health.Next step is a bearing check; anything beyond that involves full teardown & hands-on inspection.Also set valve lash prior to compression test, & realize that the compression test is of limited value; a leaking cylinder can still pump up pretty good...HTH
Glen Efinger
.

    On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 05:02:44 PM EDT, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I finished a 9 weekend race/school/track day season that started in April and finished at Thompson in October with no obvious performance problems. Total of 38 engine hours including warmup, grid, race, cool down.?
Did a dry compression test today:   
   - 210
   - 225
   - 195
   - 200

I get some oil blow by at the valve cover cap and maybe some drips from lower end seals (not sure if oil starts at valve cover).?
I?m sure I?ll hear a suggestion to do a leak down test and / or wet compression.?
Oil filter forensics?
In the absence of obvious issues, how much of a tear down is warranted??
Jim

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From rick.parent at att.net  Sun Oct 29 08:54:16 2023
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:54:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results
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The numbers are what one would expect doing a cold pressure test. If the engine was hot when you did the test I would pull it.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
 

    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 07:37:22 AM MST, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Thanks Ken and Tony,
Glad to hear the bottom end has more life. Will do a leak down test and be asking about Triumph top end rebuilders in New England.?
Jim

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If you can barrow a leak down tester that is still the best tool to assess engine health.? I also change oil filters after each race and cut it open to see what is trapped inside.? ?A well built TR race motor can easily do double those hours on the bottom end.? In my opinion the key to long tern motor health, assuming a good build, is a high quality race oil.? My choice is Joe Gibbs Driven XP-3 10-30, I have bearings that look almost new at 50 hrs. using this oil.? No such thing as ?cheap? racing oil.? ?Never be beaten by parts? K. Kastner.

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Ken

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From: James Trudeau via Fot
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 2:06 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results

 ?

I finished a 9 weekend race/school/track day season that started in April and finished at Thompson in October with no obvious performance problems. Total of 38 engine hours including warmup, grid, race, cool down.?

 ?

Did a dry compression test today:
   
   - 210
   - 225
   - 195
   - 200

 ?

I get some oil blow by at the valve cover cap and maybe some drips from lower end seals (not sure if oil starts at valve cover).?

 ?

I?m sure I?ll hear a suggestion to do a leak down test and / or wet compression.?

 ?

Oil filter forensics?

 ?

In the absence of obvious issues, how much of a tear down is warranted??

 ?

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

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From solarant at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 29 09:28:35 2023
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:28:35 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results
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Hmmmm.

Which engine?
How high do you rev it?
How much HP over stock?
CR?
Cam lift and duration?
Oil system?

All of these are more important to me than compression or leak-down tests.

Are you worried about the last few HP, or catching issues before expensive parts get damaged?

I cut oil filters, carefully remove the filter media, and visually inspect each pleat after every race. If I see something, it may be too late, or it may help avoid messing up something that I don't want to replace. Need to be able to differentiate what you find in the filter.

Oil analysis is fine, but you need to establish a trend for the specific engine and then understand what the changing analysis is pointing to.

You have all winter (unless you're going to Florida for winter racing). Take the cam and tappets out to inspect contact faces. (Keep track of the location and orientation of all parts.) Take the oil pan off and at least look at a couple of main bearings and rod bearings. This can be done with the crank, pistons, and rods still in the engine.

Looking for leaks at the valve seats, inspecting rocker clearance, touching up or lapping the valves, and doing a rough check on guide wear is the easy part.

If you've been doing this once or twice a year for a few years and nothing ever changes, then you're in heaven.



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Thanks Ken and Tony,

Glad to hear the bottom end has more life. Will do a leak down test and be asking about Triumph top end rebuilders in New England.

Jim

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On Oct 28, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Ken Knight <kknight at klaenv.com> wrote:

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If you can barrow a leak down tester that is still the best tool to assess engine health.  I also change oil filters after each race and cut it open to see what is trapped inside.   A well built TR race motor can easily do double those hours on the bottom end.  In my opinion the key to long tern motor health, assuming a good build, is a high quality race oil.  My choice is Joe Gibbs Driven XP-3 10-30, I have bearings that look almost new at 50 hrs. using this oil.  No such thing as ?cheap? racing oil.  ?Never be beaten by parts? K. Kastner.



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Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results



I finished a 9 weekend race/school/track day season that started in April and finished at Thompson in October with no obvious performance problems. Total of 38 engine hours including warmup, grid, race, cool down.



Did a dry compression test today:

  1.  210
  2.  225
  3.  195
  4.  200



I get some oil blow by at the valve cover cap and maybe some drips from lower end seals (not sure if oil starts at valve cover).



I?m sure I?ll hear a suggestion to do a leak down test and / or wet compression.



Oil filter forensics?



In the absence of obvious issues, how much of a tear down is warranted?



Jim

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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Sun Oct 29 10:51:22 2023
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 12:51:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 29 19:47:51 2023
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I came across this on FB in North Attleboro, MA.? I don't need anymore projects.? Looks like it needs lots of work.? JoeBhttps://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1335370610684049?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A2de9da30-64a9-43bf-a5eb-4bbc5467e1f6











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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sun Oct 29 21:56:46 2023
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From rick.parent at att.net  Mon Oct 30 09:37:10 2023
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 15:37:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results
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My guess would be the motor is still good, do a hot compression test first though. A leak down test works the same way. As a side not, Ferrari of Atlanta does customer repair leak downs cold and car sales hot, what a scam.
Rick Parent
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    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 09:51:57 AM MST, James Trudeau <jgtrudeau at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
 Thanks Ken and Rick,
Yes, test was done cold.?
Valve adjustment has been so consistent this year, I skipped a step.?
Russ developed the car over nearly 30 years. 8000 rpm capable, but I try to avoid temptation?
Jim

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?The numbers are what one would expect doing a cold pressure test. If the engine was hot when you did the test I would pull it.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
 

    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 07:37:22 AM MST, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Thanks Ken and Tony,
Glad to hear the bottom end has more life. Will do a leak down test and be asking about Triumph top end rebuilders in New England.?
Jim

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If you can barrow a leak down tester that is still the best tool to assess engine health.? I also change oil filters after each race and cut it open to see what is trapped inside.? ?A well built TR race motor can easily do double those hours on the bottom end.? In my opinion the key to long tern motor health, assuming a good build, is a high quality race oil.? My choice is Joe Gibbs Driven XP-3 10-30, I have bearings that look almost new at 50 hrs. using this oil.? No such thing as ?cheap? racing oil.? ?Never be beaten by parts? K. Kastner.

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From: James Trudeau via Fot
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 2:06 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Race Engine Refreshing Frequency - compression results

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I finished a 9 weekend race/school/track day season that started in April and finished at Thompson in October with no obvious performance problems. Total of 38 engine hours including warmup, grid, race, cool down.?

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Did a dry compression test today:
   
   - 210
   - 225
   - 195
   - 200

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I get some oil blow by at the valve cover cap and maybe some drips from lower end seals (not sure if oil starts at valve cover).?

 ?

I?m sure I?ll hear a suggestion to do a leak down test and / or wet compression.?

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Oil filter forensics?

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In the absence of obvious issues, how much of a tear down is warranted??

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Jim

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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Oct 30 19:53:25 2023
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 21:53:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Hydraulic floor jack recommendations?
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My Jegs 2T aluminum floor jack gave up after about 6-7 years.  Good jack while it lasted, bigger/more stable than a harbor freight but light enough that I still took it on race weekends.
Any suggestions on what to buy?  I was not totally impressed with the lifespan of this, though I suspect the 2 ton rating is optimistic and it did not like jacking up my Ford Expedition once in a while.
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 30 20:09:56 2023
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 02:09:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Hydraulic floor jack recommendations?
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We?ve been using a cheap harbor freight light aluminum jack for 7-8 years with out?incident. It?s low enough to jack the tr6 and Miata. Admittedly, it isn?t super stout and I would not trust it to jack a truck.?
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My Jegs 2T aluminum floor jack gave up after about 6-7 years. ?Good jack while it lasted, bigger/more stable than a harbor freight but light enough that I still took it on race weekends.Any suggestions on what to buy? ?I was not totally impressed with the lifespan of this, though I suspect the 2 ton rating is optimistic and it did not like jacking up my Ford Expedition once in a while._______________________________________________
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Tue Oct 31 03:57:24 2023
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Subject: [Fot] Hydraulic floor jack recommendations?
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My Harbor Freight jack has lasted forever - it's gotta be 15 years now.  I just never use it for heavy work.  I have a bigger steel floor jack that I use for the truck, trailer and other heavy stuff.

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We?ve been using a cheap harbor freight light aluminum jack for 7-8 years with out incident. It?s low enough to jack the tr6 and Miata. Admittedly, it isn?t super stout and I would not trust it to jack a truck.

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On Monday, October 30, 2023, 9:01 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

My Jegs 2T aluminum floor jack gave up after about 6-7 years.  Good jack while it lasted, bigger/more stable than a harbor freight but light enough that I still took it on race weekends.
Any suggestions on what to buy?  I was not totally impressed with the lifespan of this, though I suspect the 2 ton rating is optimistic and it did not like jacking up my Ford Expedition once in a while.
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