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Subject: [Fot] MOSS MOTORS: You're Invited! Moss Cars & Coffee,
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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Mon May  1 21:00:45 2023
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Mon, 1 May 2023 22:00:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Burt_Levy=E2=80=99s_new_character?=
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So I was hanging out tonight with a handful of FoT and it became apparent that the details of Burt Levy?s most recent book in the Last Open Road series isn?t known by all of our group.

Did y?all know that Burt weaved in to his story a new character in the mid 1960?s, a young man with a new TR4 that he is having converted into a race car as he is very eager to get into the sport and is a die-hard Triumph guy. This character is sprinkled into several chapters and his name is? Joe Alexander.

Is there more to the story of how this ?fictional? character got written into the book?

It was a neat surprise to me and I don?t think I?ve seen mention of it on FoT.

Dusty Nicholson 
1957 FIA TR3 #43 Daytona car
1955 TR3 #72 Runoffs car

From vfracing at aol.com  Tue May  2 04:29:05 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 06:29:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Burt_Levy=E2=80=99s_new_character?=
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Wow! That is so cool!
When Burt was writing the first book he ?borrowed? a ride in Bill Colom?s nicely restored ?62 TR4. The car had been bought new and converted to a race car right out of the showroom.  I wonder if he borrowed the car knowing what he was going to write, or if the car helped inspire the story. 
Phil

Sent from my iPhones 

> On May 1, 2023, at 11:11 PM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?So I was hanging out tonight with a handful of FoT and it became apparent that the details of Burt Levy?s most recent book in the Last Open Road series isn?t known by all of our group.
> 
> Did y?all know that Burt weaved in to his story a new character in the mid 1960?s, a young man with a new TR4 that he is having converted into a race car as he is very eager to get into the sport and is a die-hard Triumph guy. This character is sprinkled into several chapters and his name is? Joe Alexander.
> 
> Is there more to the story of how this ?fictional? character got written into the book?
> 
> It was a neat surprise to me and I don?t think I?ve seen mention of it on FoT.
> 
> Dusty Nicholson 
> 1957 FIA TR3 #43 Daytona car
> 1955 TR3 #72 Runoffs car
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue May  2 06:59:37 2023
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 07:59:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Burt_Levy=E2=80=99s_new_character?=
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Dustin,

Burt and I go back over 30 years. 

We have crossed paths many times over the years. 

At least once, we crossed swords, when he disparaged our Triumphs.

He is, however, an interesting part of our community.

Watch for a pending press release where Burt will be honored, among others.

Regards,


Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 1, 2023, at 10:06 PM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?So I was hanging out tonight with a handful of FoT and it became apparent that the details of Burt Levy?s most recent book in the Last Open Road series isn?t known by all of our group.
> 
> Did y?all know that Burt weaved in to his story a new character in the mid 1960?s, a young man with a new TR4 that he is having converted into a race car as he is very eager to get into the sport and is a die-hard Triumph guy. This character is sprinkled into several chapters and his name is? Joe Alexander.
> 
> Is there more to the story of how this ?fictional? character got written into the book?
> 
> It was a neat surprise to me and I don?t think I?ve seen mention of it on FoT.
> 
> Dusty Nicholson 
> 1957 FIA TR3 #43 Daytona car
> 1955 TR3 #72 Runoffs car
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Tue May  2 08:16:00 2023
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 14:16:00 +0000
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Burt_Levy=E2=80=99s_new_character?=
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He has good cause to disparage at least one Triumph - the much-abused, broken, repaired, mostly broken TR3 he used to race.  The man knows the dark of night thrashing under a Triumph in the paddock.

Scott (B.)

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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 8:00 AM
To: dustin nicholson <nicholsondustin at yahoo.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Burt Levy?s new character

Dustin,

Burt and I go back over 30 years. 

We have crossed paths many times over the years. 

At least once, we crossed swords, when he disparaged our Triumphs.

He is, however, an interesting part of our community.

Watch for a pending press release where Burt will be honored, among others.

Regards,


Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 1, 2023, at 10:06 PM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?So I was hanging out tonight with a handful of FoT and it became apparent that the details of Burt Levy?s most recent book in the Last Open Road series isn?t known by all of our group.
> 
> Did y?all know that Burt weaved in to his story a new character in the mid 1960?s, a young man with a new TR4 that he is having converted into a race car as he is very eager to get into the sport and is a die-hard Triumph guy. This character is sprinkled into several chapters and his name is? Joe Alexander.
> 
> Is there more to the story of how this ?fictional? character got written into the book?
> 
> It was a neat surprise to me and I don?t think I?ve seen mention of it on FoT.
> 
> Dusty Nicholson 
> 1957 FIA TR3 #43 Daytona car
> 1955 TR3 #72 Runoffs car
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Tue May  2 15:05:46 2023
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 21:05:46 +0000
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4
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I am priming my rebuilt engine before starting, I have a drill connected to a spare distributor shaft which is in the oil pump groove, I run it in reverse, correct?

I don't see any oil coming up to rocker shaft, should I be?

How can I tell if it is working?

Using Brad Penn 30wht break in oil.

Thanks
Mike

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue May  2 15:45:25 2023
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 16:45:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4
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Run in reverse, yes.? You should see some oil come up to the rockers.? 
You should see oil pressure on the oil pressure gauge. I can get up to 
over 30 psi with the drill.

- Tony

On 5/2/2023 4:05 PM, Michael Moore via Fot wrote:
>
> I am priming my rebuilt engine before starting, I have a drill 
> connected to a spare distributor shaft which is in the oil pump 
> groove, I run it in reverse, correct?
>
> I don?t see any oil coming up to rocker shaft, should I be?
>
> How can I tell if it is working?
>
> Using Brad Penn 30wht break in oil.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> Michael T. Moore, CPA
>
> 3255 West 26^th Street
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Tue May  2 16:45:39 2023
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 22:45:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4
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It probably took about 45-60 seconds to get the pump primed in my engine the first time. The screw gun starts to bog down once the oil is getting there.
Jake

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From tr4 at wi.rr.com  Tue May  2 16:50:46 2023
From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (tr4 at wi.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 17:50:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4
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In addition to what Tony said, I have found that sometimes you may need to rotate the engine by hand slowly so that the oil port going to the head opens up on the rear cam bearing.  What I usually do is pull the plug on the back of the head to ensue I have oil coming up and once I do then put the plug back in.  Sometimes it takes a while to see oil from the rocker shaft.  Can you say smoke coming from the drill!!

Steve

 

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Subject: Re: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4

 

Run in reverse, yes.  You should see some oil come up to the rockers.  You should see oil pressure on the oil pressure gauge.  I can get up to over 30 psi with the drill.

- Tony

On 5/2/2023 4:05 PM, Michael Moore via Fot wrote:

I am priming my rebuilt engine before starting, I have a drill connected to a spare distributor shaft which is in the oil pump groove, I run it in reverse, correct?

 

I don?t see any oil coming up to rocker shaft, should I be? 

 

How can I tell if it is working?

 

Using Brad Penn 30wht break in oil.

 

Thanks

Mike

 

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Erie, PA 16506

 

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Tue May  2 19:12:09 2023
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave Hogye)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 18:12:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed May  3 14:24:36 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 16:24:36 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4, or any car
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I?m a big fan of a pre-lube tank.  Fill it with the desired oil, unscrew a plug somewhere on the block - typically where there?s one that allowed the oil passage to a main bearing to be drilled, connect the hose, pressurize the tank with air, and it pumps oil through your whole system.  No need to pull the distributor.  
Not. the cheapest, but I?ve used one for years, and it gets used every time I start up an engine for the first time after significant work or if the accusump has been empty for a while and I can?t use that for pre-lube.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaf-all10535

There are others, some cheaper, some more expensive.  one thing to look for is one that it is easy to dump oil into.  I have a cheap one - not like this, have to use a funnel, kind of a pain.


On May 2, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I am priming my rebuilt engine before starting, I have a drill connected to a spare distributor shaft which is in the oil pump groove, I run it in reverse, correct?
 
I don?t see any oil coming up to rocker shaft, should I be? 
 
How can I tell if it is working?
 
Using Brad Penn 30wht break in oil.
 
Thanks
Mike
 
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3255 West 26th Street
Erie, PA 16506
 
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Wed May  3 16:59:00 2023
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 22:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4, or any car
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 I second the use of the pre-lube tank.? I put a T in the oil pressure line to connect the pre-lube hose to.? I just cap the T when done.? Makes priming an engine easy.? JoeB
    On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 05:48:08 PM EDT, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I?m a big fan of a pre-lube tank. ?Fill it with the desired oil, unscrew a plug somewhere on the block - typically where there?s one that allowed the oil passage to a main bearing to be drilled, connect the hose, pressurize the tank with air, and it pumps oil through your whole system. ?No need to pull the distributor. ?Not. the cheapest, but I?ve used one for years, and it gets used every time I start up an engine for the first time after significant work or if the accusump has been empty for a while and I can?t use that for pre-lube.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaf-all10535
There are others, some cheaper, some more expensive. ?one thing to look for is one that it is easy to dump oil into. ?I have a cheap one - not like this, have to use a funnel, kind of a pain.


  
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Wed May  3 17:33:40 2023
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 23:33:40 +0000
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4, or any car
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Yup, use the same thing on every engine for start up on the test stand.  Worthwhile tool.

Marty

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Subject: Re: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4, or any car

I?m a big fan of a pre-lube tank.  Fill it with the desired oil, unscrew a plug somewhere on the block - typically where there?s one that allowed the oil passage to a main bearing to be drilled, connect the hose, pressurize the tank with air, and it pumps oil through your whole system.  No need to pull the distributor.
Not. the cheapest, but I?ve used one for years, and it gets used every time I start up an engine for the first time after significant work or if the accusump has been empty for a while and I can?t use that for pre-lube.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaf-all10535

There are others, some cheaper, some more expensive.  one thing to look for is one that it is easy to dump oil into.  I have a cheap one - not like this, have to use a funnel, kind of a pain.


On May 2, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

I am priming my rebuilt engine before starting, I have a drill connected to a spare distributor shaft which is in the oil pump groove, I run it in reverse, correct?

I don?t see any oil coming up to rocker shaft, should I be?

How can I tell if it is working?

Using Brad Penn 30wht break in oil.

Thanks
Mike

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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed May  3 23:26:09 2023
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 00:26:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Late night shot of the mysterious FGR garage
Message-ID: <5CE5C656-75DB-4709-B5C2-4FDB0F7A16E5@multivintage.com>

We are deep into kastner cup  preparation over  here in the Friendly Ghost Racing garage. Here is a random shot at the end of a killer night of work on one of the best GT6?s of all time.
What are you guys working on?. 

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Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing 
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars 

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From gkbyrne at optusnet.com.au  Thu May  4 00:33:50 2023
From: gkbyrne at optusnet.com.au (Geoff Byrne)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 16:33:50 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Late night shot of the mysterious FGR garage
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> On 4 May 2023, at 3:42 pm, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?We are deep into kastner cup  preparation over  here in the Friendly Ghost Racing garage. Here is a random shot at the end of a killer night of work on one of the best GT6?s of all time.
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu May  4 03:50:22 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 05:50:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Late night shot of the mysterious FGR garage
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Attempting an in-car top end rebuild?..
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> On May 4, 2023, at 3:05 AM, Geoff Byrne via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?This one pretty quick
> <image0.jpeg>
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 4 May 2023, at 3:42 pm, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?We are deep into kastner cup  preparation over  here in the Friendly Ghost Racing garage. Here is a random shot at the end of a killer night of work on one of the best GT6?s of all time.
>> What are you guys working on?. 
>> 
> <image.jpg>
>> 
>> 
>> Jason Ostrowski
>> Friendly Ghost Racing 
>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars 
>> 
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Thu May  4 06:37:14 2023
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 12:37:14 +0000
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4, or any car
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Thanks for the feedback, did not know about a prelube tank. Now I have some options to try this weekend.

Thanks
Mike

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Erie, PA 16506

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From: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 7:34 PM
To: Michael Moore <mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com>; Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4, or any car

Yup, use the same thing on every engine for start up on the test stand.  Worthwhile tool.

Marty

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Subject: Re: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4, or any car

I'm a big fan of a pre-lube tank.  Fill it with the desired oil, unscrew a plug somewhere on the block - typically where there's one that allowed the oil passage to a main bearing to be drilled, connect the hose, pressurize the tank with air, and it pumps oil through your whole system.  No need to pull the distributor.
Not. the cheapest, but I've used one for years, and it gets used every time I start up an engine for the first time after significant work or if the accusump has been empty for a while and I can't use that for pre-lube.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaf-all10535

There are others, some cheaper, some more expensive.  one thing to look for is one that it is easy to dump oil into.  I have a cheap one - not like this, have to use a funnel, kind of a pain.


On May 2, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

I am priming my rebuilt engine before starting, I have a drill connected to a spare distributor shaft which is in the oil pump groove, I run it in reverse, correct?

I don't see any oil coming up to rocker shaft, should I be?

How can I tell if it is working?

Using Brad Penn 30wht break in oil.

Thanks
Mike

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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Thu May  4 06:52:18 2023
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 08:52:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Late night shot of the mysterious FGR garage
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Installeda Supertrapp style muffler to (hopefully) comply with Lime Rock decibel standards for Vintage Race School starting later today. Sleep is overrated, right?!

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> On May 4, 2023, at 6:08 AM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Attempting an in-car top end rebuild?..
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> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 4, 2023, at 3:05 AM, Geoff Byrne via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?This one pretty quick
>> <image0.jpeg>
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On 4 May 2023, at 3:42 pm, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?We are deep into kastner cup  preparation over  here in the Friendly Ghost Racing garage. Here is a random shot at the end of a killer night of work on one of the best GT6?s of all time.
>>> What are you guys working on?. 
>>> 
>> <image.jpg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jason Ostrowski
>>> Friendly Ghost Racing 
>>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars 
>>> 
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Thu May  4 08:07:41 2023
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 14:07:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4, or any car
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 As an alternative, if you have an accusump, which most do nowadays, you can just pre-charge it on the bench, dump it in, runup, & reset the air pressure when it's empty & charge normally.
Glen Efinger
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Fot] New engine priming on TR4, or any car  ? I?m a big fan of a pre-lube tank. ?Fill it with the desired oil, unscrew a plug somewhere on the block - typically where there?s one that allowed the oil passage to a main bearing to be drilled, connect the hose, pressurize the tank with air, and it pumps oil through your whole system. ?No need to pull the distributor. ? Not. the cheapest, but I?ve used one for years, and it gets used every time I start up an engine for the first time after significant work or if the accusump has been empty for a while and I can?t use that for pre-lube.  ? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaf-all10535  ? There are others, some cheaper, some more expensive. ?one thing to look for is one that it is easy to dump oil into. ?I have a cheap one - not like this, have to use a funnel, kind of a pain.  ?  ? On May 2, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  ? I am priming my rebuilt engine before starting, I have a drill connected to a spare distributor shaft which is in the oil pump groove, I run it in reverse, correct? ? I don?t see any oil coming up to rocker shaft, should I be?? ? How can I tell if it is working? ? Using Brad Penn 30wht break in oil. ? Thanks Mike ? Michael T. Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th?Street Erie, PA 16506 ? Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 Email:????mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com ? This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. ? ? ? _______________________________________________
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Thu May  4 09:52:50 2023
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 11:52:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] new email address
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Hi Guys, hope this comes through.

I got a new email address a while back, william.tobin31 at gmail.com

I haven;\'t been h\getting anything from FOT.

Let me know if this reaches anyone.

TR6 for sale and lots of spare parts at an aucion.

Thanks, Bill


From jhouathome at aol.com  Thu May  4 11:43:59 2023
From: jhouathome at aol.com (jhouathome at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 17:43:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kellison bodied TR-4 for sale
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Hey everyone. ?Want the coolest, best looking, most unique ride to this year?s Kastner Cup? ?I?m selling my Kellison J2?bodied TR-4. ?The car is very well built, solid, light, and reliable. ?Drive?s like a TR4 but comes in at about 1700lbs, so the braking and snap are better. ?Needs nothing but an annual race-prep (fluids, nut-and-bolt check, basic safety inspection) to be ready to race. ?Will need tires and belts. ?Webers, close-ratio gearbox, Detroit locker, etc., etc. Asking $40,000. ?Located 30 miles?north of Minneapolis, MN. ?Contact me privately at jhouathome at aol.com for lots of pictures and full details.Thanks for looking!John



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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu May  4 14:35:27 2023
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 14:35:27 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kellison bodied TR-4 for sale
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Wow!  Very nice!  Now, if I can find the other $39,500 I'll take it. 
Wonder if it could be made street legal?

mjb.


From jhouathome at aol.com  Thu May  4 17:12:29 2023
From: jhouathome at aol.com (jhouathome at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 23:12:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kellison bodied TR-4 for sale
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Hi Mark,It could, with lights and safety glass instead of perspex, but with a full race motor, heavy duty Tilton clutch and a Detroit locker it would be kind of miserable. ?I though about putting in a stock motor and gearbox and diff to run some of the big rally events, which would be fun, but ultimately decided I just have too many race cars and need to thin the herd.John


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On Thursday, May 4, 2023, 5:52 PM, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Wow!? Very nice!? Now, if I can find the other $39,500 I'll take it. 
Wonder if it could be made street legal?

mjb.

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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May  5 15:28:58 2023
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 15:28:58 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to all!
Message-ID: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>

Well, the announcement is now public.

 
https://vintagemotorsport.com/2023/05/04/redman-hobbs-and-levy-among-2023-british-sports-car-hof-inductees/

Thanks to all of those who contributed to my induction into the British 
Sports Car Hall of Fame.  It is nice that over 30 years of effort on my 
part has not gone unnoticed.  Thanks to everyone on every list that has 
made this possible!

mjb.

From vfracing at aol.com  Sat May  6 04:05:11 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sat, 6 May 2023 06:05:11 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to all!
In-Reply-To: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
References: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <9577B9E0-378E-42FE-A120-7B471ACF5769@aol.com>

Congrats!
And thanks for all you do for us!
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2023, at 12:47 AM, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Well, the announcement is now public.
> 
> https://vintagemotorsport.com/2023/05/04/redman-hobbs-and-levy-among-2023-british-sports-car-hof-inductees/
> 
> Thanks to all of those who contributed to my induction into the British Sports Car Hall of Fame.  It is nice that over 30 years of effort on my part has not gone unnoticed.  Thanks to everyone on every list that has made this possible!
> 
> mjb.
> _______________________________________________
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sat May  6 05:22:12 2023
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sat, 6 May 2023 07:22:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to all!
In-Reply-To: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
References: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <000001d9800d$01862900$04927b00$@rogers.com>

Congratulations, well deserved. You belong with that special rare group of
outstanding names.

Thank you 

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2023 5:29 PM
To: Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to all!

Well, the announcement is now public.

 
https://vintagemotorsport.com/2023/05/04/redman-hobbs-and-levy-among-2023-br
itish-sports-car-hof-inductees/

Thanks to all of those who contributed to my induction into the British
Sports Car Hall of Fame.  It is nice that over 30 years of effort on my part
has not gone unnoticed.  Thanks to everyone on every list that has made this
possible!

mjb.
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sat May  6 06:14:07 2023
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sat, 6 May 2023 07:14:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to all!
In-Reply-To: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
References: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <37733F03-F054-4086-9910-507168D6CCFB@gmail.com>

Congratulations.  See you at your induction in July.



Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 5, 2023, at 11:56 PM, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Well, the announcement is now public.
> 
> https://vintagemotorsport.com/2023/05/04/redman-hobbs-and-levy-among-2023-british-sports-car-hof-inductees/
> 
> Thanks to all of those who contributed to my induction into the British Sports Car Hall of Fame.  It is nice that over 30 years of effort on my part has not gone unnoticed.  Thanks to everyone on every list that has made this possible!
> 
> mjb.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
> 
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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Sat May  6 06:59:22 2023
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (R. John Lye)
Date: Sat, 06 May 2023 08:59:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to all!
In-Reply-To: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
References: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <1683377962.6tfulu4k080ok8k0@webmail.lumos.net>

Congratulations Mark, it is very well deserved!

John






On Fri, 5 May 2023 15:28:58 -0600, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Well, the announcement is now public.


https://vintagemotorsport.com/2023/05/04/redman-hobbs-and-levy-among-2023-british-sports-car-hof-inductees/

Thanks to all of those who contributed to my induction into the British
Sports Car Hall of Fame. It is nice that over 30 years of effort on my
part has not gone unnoticed. Thanks to everyone on every list that has
made this possible!

mjb.
_______________________________________________
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?

From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Sat May  6 08:21:52 2023
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Sat, 6 May 2023 09:21:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to all!
In-Reply-To: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
References: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <B633999D-BA11-4CD1-B327-E893817830BD@gmail.com>

Congratulations and it?s well deserved 

Ken Gano

Sent from my iPad

> On May 6, 2023, at 12:01 AM, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Well, the announcement is now public.
> 
> https://vintagemotorsport.com/2023/05/04/redman-hobbs-and-levy-among-2023-british-sports-car-hof-inductees/
> 
> Thanks to all of those who contributed to my induction into the British Sports Car Hall of Fame.  It is nice that over 30 years of effort on my part has not gone unnoticed.  Thanks to everyone on every list that has made this possible!
> 
> mjb.
> _______________________________________________
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From gkincel64 at gmail.com  Sat May  6 18:33:13 2023
From: gkincel64 at gmail.com (Gary Kincel)
Date: Sat, 6 May 2023 20:33:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to all!
In-Reply-To: <B633999D-BA11-4CD1-B327-E893817830BD@gmail.com>
References: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>,
 <B633999D-BA11-4CD1-B327-E893817830BD@gmail.com>
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From cak at dimebank.com  Sun May  7 12:39:46 2023
From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev)
Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 11:39:46 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 106, Issue 106
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1683396001.30716.fot@autox.team.net>
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Well deserved and long overdue.

From bownes at seiri.com  Sun May  7 18:06:47 2023
From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri)
Date: Sun, 7 May 2023 20:06:47 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Thanks to all!
In-Reply-To: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
References: <9e06db20-594f-e3c6-29f2-1bb4d5cae524@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <2FEC1011-94AB-4972-9D19-99EEDA766DCE@seiri.com>


Congratulations good sir! A well deserved accolade placing some other questionable reprobates in your good company! ;)



> On May 6, 2023, at 00:49, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Well, the announcement is now public.
> 
> https://vintagemotorsport.com/2023/05/04/redman-hobbs-and-levy-among-2023-british-sports-car-hof-inductees/
> 
> Thanks to all of those who contributed to my induction into the British Sports Car Hall of Fame.  It is nice that over 30 years of effort on my part has not gone unnoticed.  Thanks to everyone on every list that has made this possible!
> 
> mjb.
> _______________________________________________
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Sun May  7 19:54:36 2023
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Sun, 7 May 2023 20:54:36 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 camshaft "CB"
Message-ID: <CABFvdWuxQJuD82e1gfyATSHDpE0-H91223_9exbQBpiHvucuTg@mail.gmail.com>

I am rebuilding an engine for a local club member and I just tore down the
engine. It looks like someone rebuilt it but it did not run very long until
it coked up the new pistons and valves. The camshaft installed looks to be
from an unmarked new core and the only stamping on it is a capital CB on
the back boss.  Has anyone seen this camshaft designation before? It was
not timed correctly and the distributor drive was off by a tooth so I want
to make sure I set him up with a car that will run correctly this time.
I've heard that some of the blanks were not of a good quality so this is
another worry.

Bob Kramer
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From chip at theukmotorsports.com  Mon May  8 05:10:45 2023
From: chip at theukmotorsports.com (Chip Collingwood)
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 07:10:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 camshaft "CB"
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuxQJuD82e1gfyATSHDpE0-H91223_9exbQBpiHvucuTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuxQJuD82e1gfyATSHDpE0-H91223_9exbQBpiHvucuTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEZ9eEQxd6DB1bjuEo3ggPEVisBM7OKeXZBZgK2Q0D2mpFPxw@mail.gmail.com>

Not certain about the cam "CB" designation. And the distributor drive being
off a tooth has nothing to do with cam timing. That is a relationship
between the cam and the crank set by how you install the cam sprocket. The
distributor drive only orients the proper position of the distributor so
that its body doesnt contact the block and prevent the "ignition timing"
from being set properly.
I believe there are 2 big issues with the cams/blanks. Most important is
always installing cam bearings as it will prevent any oil pressure loss due
to poor tolerance of original castings. And second is the oil pump for the
valve train is affected by rear cam bearing surface/cut. Evidently some
blanks are inadequate in comparison to the originals. I would source a good
original blank and have it cut to your specs.


On Mon, May 8, 2023, 1:50 AM Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I am rebuilding an engine for a local club member and I just tore down the
> engine. It looks like someone rebuilt it but it did not run very long until
> it coked up the new pistons and valves. The camshaft installed looks to be
> from an unmarked new core and the only stamping on it is a capital CB on
> the back boss.  Has anyone seen this camshaft designation before? It was
> not timed correctly and the distributor drive was off by a tooth so I want
> to make sure I set him up with a car that will run correctly this time.
> I've heard that some of the blanks were not of a good quality so this is
> another worry.
>
> Bob Kramer
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon May  8 07:13:18 2023
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 08:13:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 camshaft "CB"
In-Reply-To: <CABEZ9eEQxd6DB1bjuEo3ggPEVisBM7OKeXZBZgK2Q0D2mpFPxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuxQJuD82e1gfyATSHDpE0-H91223_9exbQBpiHvucuTg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABEZ9eEQxd6DB1bjuEo3ggPEVisBM7OKeXZBZgK2Q0D2mpFPxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWv_YaqnN0XuGk2puy1f7g-ugWU_X38O+rcMjyb60BaC9w@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed. I based the cam timing being off by the position of the camshaft
gear. I assume that this is a stock grind and the slot in the front boss of
the new cam, the one that leaves a discoloration on the back of the gear
was off from the marks on the reused timing gear. And the distributor drive
was off position.

Bob Kramer


On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 6:10?AM Chip Collingwood <chip at theukmotorsports.com>
wrote:

> Not certain about the cam "CB" designation. And the distributor drive
> being off a tooth has nothing to do with cam timing. That is a relationship
> between the cam and the crank set by how you install the cam sprocket. The
> distributor drive only orients the proper position of the distributor so
> that its body doesnt contact the block and prevent the "ignition timing"
> from being set properly.
> I believe there are 2 big issues with the cams/blanks. Most important is
> always installing cam bearings as it will prevent any oil pressure loss due
> to poor tolerance of original castings. And second is the oil pump for the
> valve train is affected by rear cam bearing surface/cut. Evidently some
> blanks are inadequate in comparison to the originals. I would source a good
> original blank and have it cut to your specs.
>
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2023, 1:50 AM Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I am rebuilding an engine for a local club member and I just tore down
>> the engine. It looks like someone rebuilt it but it did not run very long
>> until it coked up the new pistons and valves. The camshaft installed looks
>> to be from an unmarked new core and the only stamping on it is a capital CB
>> on the back boss.  Has anyone seen this camshaft designation before? It was
>> not timed correctly and the distributor drive was off by a tooth so I want
>> to make sure I set him up with a car that will run correctly this time.
>> I've heard that some of the blanks were not of a good quality so this is
>> another worry.
>>
>> Bob Kramer
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
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>>
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon May  8 08:38:19 2023
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly)
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 09:38:19 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 camshaft
Message-ID: <42460.1683556699@mitchelplumbing.com>


Agreed that being a tooth off doesn't matter, you just clock the dizzy differently to get the proper timing.  I've had to move 
the wires around to get the pro0er timing, all done with a timing light. Now if the timing on the cam is off by a tooth, that's 
a different story and you'll never get it to run right. I usually time my TR6 at 106? and have gone to 104? for certain cams.

Check with Delta Cams, they may have a CB grind.
Charly Mitchel 
TR6 #44

On Mon 08/05/23  4:10 AM , Chip Collingwood via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent:
> Not certain about the cam "CB" designation. And the distributor drive
> being off a tooth has nothing to do with cam timing. That is a
> relationship between the cam and the crank set by how you install the
> cam sprocket. The distributor drive only orients the proper position
> of the distributor so that its body doesnt contact the block and
> prevent the "ignition timing" from being set properly.I believe there
> are 2 big issues with the cams/blanks. Most important is always
> installing cam bearings as it will prevent any oil pressure loss due
> to poor tolerance of original castings. And second is the oil pump for
> the valve train is affected by rear cam bearing surface/cut. Evidently
> some blanks are inadequate in comparison to the originals. I would
> source a good original blank and have it cut to your specs. 
> 
> On Mon, May 8, 2023, 1:50 AM Bob Kramer via Fot  wrote:
> I am rebuilding?an engine for a local club member and I just tore
> down the engine. It looks like someone rebuilt it but it did not run
> very long until it coked up the new pistons?and valves. The camshaft
> installed looks to be from an unmarked new core and the only stamping
> on it is a capital CB on the back?boss.? Has anyone seen this
> camshaft designation before? It was not timed correctly and the
> distributor drive was off by a tooth so I want to make?sure I set him
> up with a car that will run correctly this time. I've heard that
> some of the blanks were not of a good quality so this is another
> worry.? 
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon May  8 09:39:14 2023
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly)
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 10:39:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 camshaft
Message-ID: <43168.1683560354@mitchelplumbing.com>

I always degree the cam with a degree wheel and a dial indicator, I use a lifter amd a 3/8 drive extension for weight.  I have 
been able to check at the rockers, but wouldn't trust it for setting up. And I think you can also flip the timing gear over to 
get a slight difference also. I've never done that, I use a vernier timing gear.
Charly Mitchel 
TR6 #44
 Mon 08/05/23  6:13 AM , Bob Kramer via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent:
> Agreed. I based the cam timing being off by the position of the
> camshaft gear. I assume that this is a stock grind and the slot in the
> front boss of the new cam, the one that leaves a discoloration on the
> back of the gear was off from the marks on the reused timing gear. And
> the distributor drive was off position.??
> Bob Kramer
> 
> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 6:10?AM Chip Collingwood  wrote:
> Not certain about the cam "CB" designation. And the distributor drive
> being off a tooth has nothing to do with cam timing. That is a
> relationship between the cam and the crank set by how you install the
> cam sprocket. The distributor drive only orients the proper position
> of the distributor so that its body doesnt contact the block and
> prevent the "ignition timing" from being set properly. I believe there
> are 2 big issues with the cams/blanks. Most important is always
> installing cam bearings as it will prevent any oil pressure loss due
> to poor tolerance of original castings. And second is the oil pump for
> the valve train is affected by rear cam bearing surface/cut. Evidently
> some blanks are inadequate in comparison to the originals. I would
> source a good original blank and have it cut to your specs.
> 
> On Mon, May 8, 2023, 1:50 AM Bob Kramer via Fot  wrote:
> I am rebuilding?an engine for a local club member and I just tore
> down the engine. It looks like someone rebuilt it but it did not run
> very long until it coked up the new pistons?and valves. The camshaft
> installed looks to be from an unmarked new core and the only stamping
> on it is a capital CB on the back?boss.? Has anyone seen this
> camshaft designation before? It was not timed correctly and the
> distributor drive was off by a tooth so I want to make?sure I set him
> up with a car that will run correctly this time. I've heard that
> some of the blanks were not of a good quality so this is another
> worry.? 
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From thompsong at prodigy.net  Wed May 10 12:21:36 2023
From: thompsong at prodigy.net (GREGORY THOMPSON)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 18:21:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?1=E2=80=9D_sway_bar_for_TR4?=
References: <1548559615.456392.1683742896237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1548559615.456392.1683742896237@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
I have looked all over the web for a 1? sway bar for the ladder frame TR4. I finally contacted Addco and they will do a one off for $345.00. Their 3/4? is $274.00. ?I have inquired as to a reduction in price if there is a group buy and they want to know how many there would be.
Let me know if you are interested in being in on the buy!
Greg Thompson?
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From lorne.fritz at gmail.com  Wed May 10 13:35:58 2023
From: lorne.fritz at gmail.com (Lorne Fritz)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 15:35:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carlisle
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Hi,  I?m going to Carlisle Friday and Saturday to display a car.  If anybody needs any MG or Triumph I can bring them along.  I still have a pair of used fiberglass rear fenders for a TR6 $100pr.  Also I?m selling a TR4 race car that has not been used since 1969.   Thanks,   Lorne   PS Ted I will put those calipers in my car just in case you need them.

From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed May 10 14:13:30 2023
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 15:13:30 -0500
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Greg

I would love to get one for my TR4. I run the 7/8" TR6 bar and as you
noticed, it contacts the frame rails under load.

Bob Kramer


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> Hi all,
>
> I have looked all over the web for a 1? sway bar for the ladder frame TR4.
> I finally contacted Addco and they will do a one off for $345.00. Their
> 3/4? is $274.00.  I have inquired as to a reduction in price if there is a
> group buy and they want to know how many there would be.
>
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Wed May 10 15:36:27 2023
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 21:36:27 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 rear brake shoes for racing
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Just noticed mine are pretty worn and need to replace them for the Jefferson 500 next weekend. Ted Schumacher has none in stock, any other sources?

Thanks
Mike

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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Wed May 10 19:11:21 2023
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From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 20:23:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?1=E2=80=9D_sway_bar_for_TR4?=
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+1 and plus another for the Champcar TR6 we race. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2023, at 15:08, GREGORY THOMPSON via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi all,
> 
> I have looked all over the web for a 1? sway bar for the ladder frame TR4. I finally contacted Addco and they will do a one off for $345.00. Their 3/4? is $274.00.  I have inquired as to a reduction in price if there is a group buy and they want to know how many there would be.
> 
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Wed May 10 19:47:50 2023
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 19:47:50 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR4 rear brake shoes for racing
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Since many of us use 240Z drums I?ve often wondered if the shoes might interchange too. A quick search shows that Auto Zone lists the same part number for both (Duralast 587). Might be worth looking into? 

Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

> On May 10, 2023, at 6:01 PM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Just noticed mine are pretty worn and need to replace them for the Jefferson 500 next weekend. Ted Schumacher has none in stock, any other sources?
>  
> Thanks
> Mike
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May 10 19:58:27 2023
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 18:58:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 rear brake shoes for racing
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I use street shoes.  They work fine.  I probably got them from Moss.  You can try your local parts store for TR6 application.  Or get them quick from Moss.  I think Moss usually has a couple options available. 
Dave H.

> On 05/10/2023 2:36 PM PDT Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Just noticed mine are pretty worn and need to replace them for the Jefferson 500 next weekend. Ted Schumacher has none in stock, any other sources?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May 10 21:34:13 2023
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 20:34:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 rear brake shoes for racing
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Well see...there you go Mike.  Easy peazy.  Raybestos is a quality, reliable name brand company.
Hi Greg!
Dave H. 

> On 05/10/2023 8:20 PM PDT greg powell <afterapex at gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> Quick delivery and good price:
> 
> Raybestos 234PG Professional... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CKBGAQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 10, 2023, at 8:12 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I use street shoes.  They work fine.  I probably got them from Moss.  You can try your local parts store for TR6 application.  Or get them quick from Moss.  I think Moss usually has a couple options available. 
> Dave H.
> 
> > On 05/10/2023 2:36 PM PDT Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >  
> >  
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> >  
> > 
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> > 
> >  
> > 
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Thu May 11 04:00:30 2023
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 10:00:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 rear brake shoes for racing
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Hi Mike,
I just happened to place an order from?BPNW for some shoes and some finned aluminum drums since I blue a rear wheel cylinder in my TR6. ?They have both county and TRW brands of rear shoes in stock? apparently I?ll have some stock??TRW?shoes in a couple of days I can bring if you can?t find?any in time?

Dave Gott

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On Thursday, May 11, 2023, 1:43 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

  Well see...there you go Mike.? Easy peazy.? Raybestos is a quality, reliable name brand company.   Hi Greg!   Dave H.?  
  On 05/10/2023 8:20 PM PDT greg powell <afterapex at gmail.com> wrote:   ?   ?  Quick delivery and good price:  
Raybestos 234PG Professional... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CKBGAQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share   ?   
  Sent from my iPhone   
On May 10, 2023, at 8:12 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
 
    I use street shoes.? They work fine.? I probably got them from Moss.? You can try your local parts store for TR6 application.? Or get them quick from Moss.? I think Moss usually has a couple options available.?   Dave H.  
  On 05/10/2023 2:36 PM PDT Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   ?   ?   
Just noticed mine are pretty worn and need to replace them for the Jefferson 500 next weekend. Ted Schumacher has none in stock, any other sources?
 
?
 
Thanks
 
Mike
 
?
 
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3255 West 26th Street
 
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu May 11 04:29:50 2023
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Thu May 11 06:04:51 2023
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 12:04:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?1=E2=80=9D_sway_bar_for_TR4?=
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 Sprint cars use tubular sway bars.? I used a 1 1/8" front bar on my TR-4.? It was tubular so weighted a lot less than a solid bar.? It was splined on the ends and I used aluminum arms, which were machined to slide onto the splines on each end.? Find a local speed shop, or someone who builds or races sprint type cars, and I'm sure you can find these tubular bars.
Good luck.
Jack

    On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 10:03:28 PM EDT, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 +1 and plus another for the Champcar TR6 we race.?

Sent from my iPhone

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?Hi all,
I have looked all over the web for a 1? sway bar for the ladder frame TR4. I finally contacted Addco and they will do a one off for $345.00. Their 3/4? is $274.00. ?I have inquired as to a reduction in price if there is a group buy and they want to know how many there would be.
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Thu May 11 07:04:06 2023
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 09:04:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Afford car shipping - Spit Racer - Jax, FL to Elyria, OH
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Hi All,

Looking for sugestions/recommendations for trustworthy and affordable shipping of my Spit Racer from Jax, FL to Elyria, OH - it is getting a new engine!

Would like to get it done by end of May.

Thanks, Terry 

From rjl6n at cstone.net  Thu May 11 07:04:56 2023
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (R. John Lye)
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That is what I did as well on the TR-4 that I used to have.? I got mine from
a dirt track supplier, Speedway Motors if I recall correctly.? They come in
various lengths and diameters, so they are easy to customize.? I originally
got a couple of different bars and swapped them in and out until I got the
front suspension tuned the way I wanted it.

I also used that same kind of tubular sway bar o the rear as well.? Again,
mostly for the ease of tuning them.

John
?



On Thu, 11 May 2023 12:04:51 +0000 (UTC), Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
?

?

Sprint cars use tubular sway bars.? I used a 1 1/8" front bar on my TR-4.? It was tubular so weighted a lot less than a solid bar.? It was splined on the ends and I used aluminum arms, which were machined to slide onto the splines on each end.? Find a local speed shop, or someone who builds or races sprint type cars, and I'm sure you can find these tubular bars.

?

Good luck.

?

Jack

?




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?

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+1 and plus another for the Champcar TR6 we race.?
?
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?




Hi all,

?

I have looked all over the web for a 1? sway bar for the ladder frame TR4. I finally contacted Addco and they will do a one off for $345.00. Their 3/4? is $274.00. ?I have inquired as to a reduction in price if there is a group buy and they want to know how many there would be.

?

Let me know if you are interested in being in on the buy!

?

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From tr3a58dean at gmail.com  Thu May 11 07:12:19 2023
From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean Tetterton)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 09:12:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?1=E2=80=9D_sway_bar_for_TR4?=
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I also used a 1 & 1/8 tubular on my TR4 race car. Worked great. Got all the
needed parts from Speedway Motors Sprint
car section.

Dean T.


On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:37?AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Sprint cars use tubular sway bars.  I used a 1 1/8" front bar on my TR-4.
> It was tubular so weighted a lot less than a solid bar.  It was splined on
> the ends and I used aluminum arms, which were machined to slide onto the
> splines on each end.  Find a local speed shop, or someone who builds or
> races sprint type cars, and I'm sure you can find these tubular bars.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Jack
>
> On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 10:03:28 PM EDT, Greg Blake via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> +1 and plus another for the Champcar TR6 we race.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 10, 2023, at 15:08, GREGORY THOMPSON via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hi all,
>
> I have looked all over the web for a 1? sway bar for the ladder frame TR4.
> I finally contacted Addco and they will do a one off for $345.00. Their
> 3/4? is $274.00.  I have inquired as to a reduction in price if there is a
> group buy and they want to know how many there would be.
>
> Let me know if you are interested in being in on the buy!
>
> Greg Thompson
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Thu May 11 08:32:23 2023
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 14:32:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?1=E2=80=9D_sway_bar_for_TR4?=
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 Coleman Racing sells the tubular splined sway bars and the matching splined ends.? They do not, however, bend the ends.? Earlier this year I bought steel ends for a Miata that I am building and had a local welding shop with a press brake bend them for me.? I chose steel ends instead of aluminum out of concern about how they would hold up to bending.? When I built a Honda S2000 with the same parts from Coleman I bent the steel ends myself with using a torch and hammer, but that was just one simple bend, not an offset bend.? In both cases I lightened the sway bar end by drilling holes.? JoeB
    On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 08:40:32 AM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Sprint cars use tubular sway bars.? I used a 1 1/8" front bar on my TR-4.? It was tubular so weighted a lot less than a solid bar.? It was splined on the ends and I used aluminum arms, which were machined to slide onto the splines on each end.? Find a local speed shop, or someone who builds or races sprint type cars, and I'm sure you can find these tubular bars.
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu May 11 09:51:38 2023
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (JOSEPH ALEXANDER)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 10:51:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Anybody need a TR4 Grille?
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Me and the Grille are exceeding our shelf life.

It is an exceptional grille.

$100.  Shipping in theUSA only, or pickup at the track.

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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Thu May 11 12:32:35 2023
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 14:32:35 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Suggestions on Shipping of Spit Racer from Jax, FL to Elyria,
 OH
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Hi All,

Looking for sugestions/recommendations for trustworthy and affordable shipping of my Spit Race Car from Jax, FL to Elyria, OH - it is getting a new engine!

Would like to get it shipped by end of May.

Thanks, Terry 

From dcphotos at icloud.com  Thu May 11 19:22:04 2023
From: dcphotos at icloud.com (Don Couch)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 20:22:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Afford car shipping - Spit Racer - Jax, FL to Elyria, 	OH
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Terry, 
Call me tomorrow and I can give the contact info of a guy who can help on this.
He?s in Springhill, Fl and hauls cars and bikes and things for a living.
Don Couch

From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Fri May 12 04:46:01 2023
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 06:46:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
Message-ID: <C3DC3A30-2082-4B94-89E3-AD4DC245959A@comcast.net>

I?m looking for another set of Minilight or Supersport style race wheels for my Spitfire.

Moss Motors has them for $230 each, but Mike H pointed me to some significantly lower cost British suppliers, which unfortunately only have 5? width in stock, currently. 

Any other new or used options I?m overlooking?

I might end up getting new narrower wheels and put the seldom used rain/storage tires on, freeing up another set of 5.5? wides for Hoosiers. 

Thanks,

Jim 

Sent from my iPhone

From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri May 12 05:33:20 2023
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 11:33:20 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
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I have had good luck with John Brown wheels UK.

13" Alloys | Alloys | JBW (johnbrownwheels.com)<https://www.johnbrownwheels.com/wheels/13-alloys>

Marty
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Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels

I?m looking for another set of Minilight or Supersport style race wheels for my Spitfire.

Moss Motors has them for $230 each, but Mike H pointed me to some significantly lower cost British suppliers, which unfortunately only have 5? width in stock, currently.

Any other new or used options I?m overlooking?

I might end up getting new narrower wheels and put the seldom used rain/storage tires on, freeing up another set of 5.5? wides for Hoosiers.

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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Fri May 12 05:40:26 2023
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 07:40:26 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
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Try VTO wheels. 

> On May 12, 2023, at 7:02 AM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I?m looking for another set of Minilight or Supersport style race wheels for my Spitfire.
> 
> Moss Motors has them for $230 each, but Mike H pointed me to some significantly lower cost British suppliers, which unfortunately only have 5? width in stock, currently. 
> 
> Any other new or used options I?m overlooking?
> 
> I might end up getting new narrower wheels and put the seldom used rain/storage tires on, freeing up another set of 5.5? wides for Hoosiers. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri May 12 05:40:40 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 07:40:40 -0400
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Fri May 12 06:11:50 2023
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 12:11:50 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 rear brake shoes for racing
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Thanks for all your input, I went with Raybestos because of time limits.

Thanks Greg Powell for the link!

Thanks
Mike

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Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 11:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 rear brake shoes for racing

Quick delivery and good price:

Raybestos 234PG Professional... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CKBGAQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


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On May 10, 2023, at 8:12 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
?
I use street shoes.  They work fine.  I probably got them from Moss.  You can try your local parts store for TR6 application.  Or get them quick from Moss.  I think Moss usually has a couple options available.
Dave H.
On 05/10/2023 2:36 PM PDT Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Just noticed mine are pretty worn and need to replace them for the Jefferson 500 next weekend. Ted Schumacher has none in stock, any other sources?

Thanks
Mike

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From gt6steve at aol.com  Fri May 12 07:31:07 2023
From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 13:31:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
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I?ve a set of refurbished Silverstones I could part with for 100$ each. Downside would be shipping cost from Las Vegas


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On Friday, May 12, 2023, 5:49 AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Try VTO wheels. 

> On May 12, 2023, at 7:02 AM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I?m looking for another set of Minilight or Supersport style race wheels for my Spitfire.
> 
> Moss Motors has them for $230 each, but Mike H pointed me to some significantly lower cost British suppliers, which unfortunately only have 5? width in stock, currently. 
> 
> Any other new or used options I?m overlooking?
> 
> I might end up getting new narrower wheels and put the seldom used rain/storage tires on, freeing up another set of 5.5? wides for Hoosiers. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim 
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Fri May 12 07:57:39 2023
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 07:57:39 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
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I have some Hoosiertires/VTO wheels for sale. $800 plus shipping 
 Contact me if interested for more pics and info



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> On May 12, 2023, at 6:20 AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Try VTO wheels. 
> 
>> On May 12, 2023, at 7:02 AM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I?m looking for another set of Minilight or Supersport style race wheels for my Spitfire.
>> 
>> Moss Motors has them for $230 each, but Mike H pointed me to some significantly lower cost British suppliers, which unfortunately only have 5? width in stock, currently. 
>> 
>> Any other new or used options I?m overlooking?
>> 
>> I might end up getting new narrower wheels and put the seldom used rain/storage tires on, freeing up another set of 5.5? wides for Hoosiers. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jim 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From bbtr250 at gmail.com  Fri May 12 07:58:04 2023
From: bbtr250 at gmail.com (Bryan Brazelton)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 08:58:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Purple People Eater is Back
Message-ID: <CAEAi9oPNLO-oimK+XZN3mv7PjCwtRUq2C_skXiPYFTcnZp+NVg@mail.gmail.com>

Bryan Brazelton <bbtr250 at gmail.com>
[image: Attachments]May 9, 2023, 5:25?PM (3 days ago)
to John
Hello Group, just an update from a couple of weekends back  at Road Atlanta
for the Mitty  . My brother Shawn Brazelton and I were able to get the #
74  Purple People Eater back on the track .  She started a little slow ,
but that was ok not having run since 2012. So  after a little sorting out
she came back to life.  We finished 4th in Saturday's sprint race and Third
in Sunday's Race having some fun with a couple of MGB's.  The weather was
off and on rain but all of our races were in the dry.  All and all it was a
good weekend.
Thank you to all of the help that everyone offered up with advice on the
Radiator and the Steering Wheel quick release.  Both issues were resolved
successfully.  Also Special thanks to Tony Drews fot the advice and help
that He offered up.

Now back to the Slagle TR 8 to try and finish it up for the Kasner Cup.
Hope to see all of you there.

--


-- 
Bryan B.

901-277-7415
Purple People Eater (59 TR 3 Racer)
Jack Wheelers #11 TR 4A
Slagles TR 8 Coupe
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 12 09:26:18 2023
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 10:26:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Purple People Eater is Back
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From hankgiffin at cox.net  Fri May 12 09:54:09 2023
From: hankgiffin at cox.net (hankgiffin at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 11:54:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Afford car shipping - Spit Racer - Jax, FL to Elyria, OH
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I've used USHIP three times (2 from FL to VA and 1 from TX to VA for cars)
It's a reverse auction so u need to wait till the bids get down to $5 apart
then look up their ratings and pick one.  You describe the car and include
not running or extra parts when you signup.  
     Some people bidding are just brokers who take a fee and use other
truckers.  Some own a fleet of trucks.  Those are best.  It's amazing how
much the bids come down from the first to the last few.
     The one bad experience I had was shipping a Harley from VA to FL.  I
picked a small business that looked good thinking I'd be helping him out.
The guy called me and said if I cancelled we could split the fee that USHIP
charges.  I said no.  That day USHIP informed me he had been dropped from
their approved shippers list.  Before I could tell USHIP someone else must
have told them about him.  So I cancelled with the guy.  I feared he would
just keep the Harley and disappear and change his company's name.  He was
already in the area for another shipment but went ballistic.  Thankfully he
didn't have my home address!  Lesson learned!
    

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Terry Sopher via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 9:04 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net; fot-request at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Afford car shipping - Spit Racer - Jax, FL to Elyria, OH

Hi All,

Looking for sugestions/recommendations for trustworthy and affordable
shipping of my Spit Racer from Jax, FL to Elyria, OH - it is getting a new
engine!

Would like to get it done by end of May.

Thanks, Terry 
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From afterapex at gmail.com  Fri May 12 12:47:54 2023
From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 11:47:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 rear brake shoes for racing
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From dcphotos at icloud.com  Fri May 12 12:28:23 2023
From: dcphotos at icloud.com (Don Couch)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 13:28:23 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
Message-ID: <554C63BB-DAEA-4C22-8499-961570BA8D62@icloud.com>

James,
I know a guy?
Give me a call. 
512-680-3540
If I don?t answer, leave a message and I?ll call ya back. 
He?s got a new set he?s willing to sell? cheap!
Don
Sent from my iPhone

From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Fri May 12 17:35:22 2023
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 19:35:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
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Wow, lots of options to check out!

Thanks everyone!

Jim

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> On May 12, 2023, at 9:58 AM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I have some Hoosiertires/VTO wheels for sale. $800 plus shipping 
>  Contact me if interested for more pics and info
> 
> <image0.jpeg>
> 
> 
> Sent from my Commodore 64
> 
> The Story of Stuff
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM
> 
>>> On May 12, 2023, at 6:20 AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?Try VTO wheels. 
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2023, at 7:02 AM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I?m looking for another set of Minilight or Supersport style race wheels for my Spitfire.
>>> 
>>> Moss Motors has them for $230 each, but Mike H pointed me to some significantly lower cost British suppliers, which unfortunately only have 5? width in stock, currently. 
>>> 
>>> Any other new or used options I?m overlooking?
>>> 
>>> I might end up getting new narrower wheels and put the seldom used rain/storage tires on, freeing up another set of 5.5? wides for Hoosiers. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jim 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From igofaster at att.net  Sat May 13 14:36:37 2023
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Sat, 13 May 2023 20:36:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Purple People Eater is Back
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 not sure where the title Purple People Eater comes from but when I grew up in Fort Worth Overseas Motors had the Purple People Eater Mini Cooper and it was a National Championshop SCCA car.. there may have been two of them but my friend Robert Hoemke in Abilene has them restored and races them occassionally with CVAR... https://www.montemini.com/images_temp/640640000TradingCard2.jpg
    On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 11:04:48 AM CDT, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Both Cars will be at the Kastner Cup? That would be SPECIAL.

Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711


On May 12, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Bryan Brazelton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?
| 
| 
Bryan Brazelton?<bbtr250 at gmail.com>
 |

 | May 9, 2023, 5:25?PM (3 days ago) |  |  |
| 
| to?John |

 |

Hello Group, just an update from a couple of weekends back? at Road Atlanta for the Mitty? . My brother Shawn Brazelton and I were able to get the # 74? Purple People Eater back on the track .? She started a little slow , but that was ok not having run since 2012. So? after a little sorting out she came back to life.? We finished?4th in Saturday's sprint race and Third in Sunday's Race having some fun with a couple of MGB's.? The weather was off and on rain but all of our races were in the dry.? All and all it was a good weekend.Thank you to all of the help that everyone offered up with advice on the Radiator and the Steering Wheel quick release.? Both issues were resolved successfully.? Also Special thanks to Tony Drews fot the advice and help that He offered up.??
Now back to the Slagle TR 8 to try and finish it up for the Kasner Cup.? Hope to see all of you there.

--


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901-277-7415Purple People Eater (59 TR 3 Racer)Jack Wheelers #11 TR 4ASlagles TR 8 Coupe_______________________________________________
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat May 13 17:30:42 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 13 May 2023 19:30:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Purple People Eater is Back
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun May 14 11:38:32 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 13:38:32 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
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Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding .011?? The head has been staked per Kas?s book. 
I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble?  I don?t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar on a .020? steel head gasket with the raised corrugating around the oil and water galleys.
The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? during a test day.
Please advise.
Thanks and regards,
Phil Gott

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun May 14 12:29:36 2023
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 20:29:36 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
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Hi,

I would say way too much protrusion. I normally have <0.0027.
If the block has been decked the liner seat has to be recessed too and maybe even the piston decks need some attention to maintain the proper clearance to the head.

Cheers
Chris


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2023 7:39 PM
To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011

Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding .011?? The head has been staked per Kas?s book. 
I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble?  I don?t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar on a .020? steel head gasket with the raised corrugating around the oil and water galleys.
The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? during a test day.
Please advise.
Thanks and regards,
Phil Gott

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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun May 14 12:36:54 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 14:36:54 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
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Thanks, Chris;
Sounds like you are running Factory Spec. I hope to find a set of .010? or so figure 8 gaskets to do the job if .011? is too much (which it probably is).
Regards,
Phil

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> On May 14, 2023, at 2:29 PM, tr4racing at googlemail.com wrote:
> 
> ?Hi,
> 
> I would say way too much protrusion. I normally have <0.0027.
> If the block has been decked the liner seat has to be recessed too and maybe even the piston decks need some attention to maintain the proper clearance to the head.
> 
> Cheers
> Chris
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Philip Gott via Fot
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2023 7:39 PM
> To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
> 
> Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding .011?? The head has been staked per Kas?s book. 
> I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble?  I don?t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar on a .020? steel head gasket with the raised corrugating around the oil and water galleys.
> The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? during a test day.
> Please advise.
> Thanks and regards,
> Phil Gott
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From tr4 at wi.rr.com  Sun May 14 13:07:10 2023
From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (Steve Yott)
Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 14:07:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
In-Reply-To: <F8E31184-21EC-4233-A491-B8653075A53E@aol.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1684091240.2994.fot@autox.team.net>

You can machine the cylinder seat the required amount.? I have a set of mandrels I made and do this frequently on the lathe.Steve YottSteve Yott
-------- Original message --------From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 5/14/23  1:02 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011 Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding .011?? The head has been staked per Kas?s book. I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble?? I don?t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar on a .020? steel head gasket with the raised corrugating around the oil and water galleys.The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? during a test day.Please advise.Thanks and regards,Phil GottSent from my iPhone_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4 at wi.rr.com
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Sun May 14 13:56:19 2023
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 19:56:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
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 NFW!Steel shim gasket .0025-.003 works well, composition & other gaskets tolerate more but I doubt any gasket will seal with more than .007 or so.The steel gasket will clamp down the liners but you'll get minimal compression of the gasket elsewhere.
I would be trimming those liners down...Good luck!
Glen Efinger
 
 
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To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, May 14, 2023 1:38 pm
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011

Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding .011?? The head has been staked per Kas?s book. 
I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble?? I don?t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar on a .020? steel head gasket with the raised corrugating around the oil and water galleys.
The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? during a test day.
Please advise.
Thanks and regards,
Phil Gott

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sun May 14 15:24:57 2023
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 16:24:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
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You can also make some custom thickness replacements for the figure 8 
gaskets to tune the protrusion.? You can get brass shim stock from local 
hardware store or McMaster Carr and cut out with scissors / snips.? I do 
separate O shapes, the siamesed cylinders don't really need the gasket 
combined into a fig 8 one.

Decking the block on the wet liner engine makes this more fiddly.? 
You'll want to verify piston height at TDC too.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Yott via Fot wrote:
> You can machine the cylinder seat the required amount.? I have a set 
> of mandrels I made and do this frequently on the lathe.
>
> Steve Yott
>
>
>
> Steve Yott
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Date: 5/14/23 1:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
>
> Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding .011?? 
> The head has been staked per Kas?s book.
> I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop delays) 
> and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal installed. It 
> has been decked already. Also line bored and cam bearings and cam 
> installed and timed. I want to know if I can assemble this with 
> confidence or if I am asking for trouble?? I don?t anticipate problems 
> with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar on a .020? steel head 
> gasket with the raised corrugating around the oil and water galleys.
> The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? during 
> a test day.
> Please advise.
> Thanks and regards,
> Phil Gott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer Gmail)
Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 17:20:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
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From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 06:19:31 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
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From walje at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 15 07:45:12 2023
From: walje at sbcglobal.net (WALJE)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 13:45:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Carb gasket
References: <1237981213.2303169.1684158312690.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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FOT
I am installing Kastner velocity stacks on my new GT 6 motor and need advice on the mounting gasket.? The motor has the dual Stromberg CD 150 carbs.? Should the gasket cover the vent passage to the underside of the diaphragm (small opening on center face of carb)?? The velocity stack base does not cover hole.
Thanks for your advice
Dennis Walje68 GT 6
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 15 08:22:24 2023
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 14:22:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Carb gasket
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 That has to be open, as well as the bowl vent port.
Glen Efinger
 
 
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To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, May 15, 2023 9:45 am
Subject: [Fot] Carb gasket

FOT
I am installing Kastner velocity stacks on my new GT 6 motor and need advice on the mounting gasket.? The motor has the dual Stromberg CD 150 carbs.? Should the gasket cover the vent passage to the underside of the diaphragm (small opening on center face of carb)?? The velocity stack base does not cover hole.
Thanks for your advice
Dennis Walje68 GT 6_______________________________________________
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon May 15 08:25:55 2023
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 07:25:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
In-Reply-To: <F3A1EAE3-1BF2-49E6-AF57-0B797DAE0317@aol.com>
References: <581c9b12-100a-2a75-fd46-a890fb005ac1@tonydrews.com>
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Solid copper and brass doesn?t really creep much in compression. And if it did, in this case the gasket is bounded on the edges with not many places to creep to. 
Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On May 15, 2023, at 3:19 AM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Tony;
> Changing the figure 8 gasket thickness does sound like the easiest and most precise solution.  Several others have made the same suggestion to use brass or copper shim stock. I am leery of creep in brass or copper. What is the experience you all have had? Does the creep take a set after a while or do you need to continually retorque the head?  Is there a similar issue with solid copper head gaskets?
> The responses of everyone are much appreciated. Brendon and Sean Alexander have offered some steel shim gaskets if he has the correct thickness (.010?).  Just hoping I don?t need to reduce piston compression height as well?.
> Regards,
> Phil
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 14, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> You can also make some custom thickness replacements for the figure 8 gaskets to tune the protrusion.  You can get brass shim stock from local hardware store or McMaster Carr and cut out with scissors / snips.  I do separate O shapes, the siamesed cylinders don't really need the gasket combined into a fig 8 one.
>> 
>> Decking the block on the wet liner engine makes this more fiddly.  You'll want to verify piston height at TDC too.
>> 
>> Regards, Tony Drews
>> 
>> On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Yott via Fot wrote:
>>> You can machine the cylinder seat the required amount.  I have a set of mandrels I made and do this frequently on the lathe.
>>> 
>>> Steve Yott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steve Yott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Date: 5/14/23 1:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
>>> 
>>> Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding .011?? The head has been staked per Kas?s book. 
>>> I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble?  I don?t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar on a .020? steel head gasket with the raised corrugating around the oil and water galleys.
>>> The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? during a test day.
>>> Please advise.
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Phil Gott
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon May 15 09:55:24 2023
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 10:55:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
In-Reply-To: <F3A1EAE3-1BF2-49E6-AF57-0B797DAE0317@aol.com>
References: <581c9b12-100a-2a75-fd46-a890fb005ac1@tonydrews.com>
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Message-ID: <7b3684cf-79ac-aec2-23bb-085b6d2e84be@tonydrews.com>

I've had no issue with brass compressing / creeping.? It's how I got my 
protrusion set.

- Tony

On 5/15/2023 5:19 AM, Philip Gott wrote:
> Thanks, Tony;
> Changing the figure 8 gasket thickness does sound like the easiest and 
> most precise solution. ?Several others have made the same suggestion 
> to use brass or copper shim stock. I am leery of creep in brass or 
> copper. What is the experience you all have had? Does the creep take a 
> set after a while or do you need to continually retorque the head? ?Is 
> there a similar issue with solid copper head gaskets?
> The responses of everyone are much appreciated. Brendon and Sean 
> Alexander have offered some steel shim gaskets if he has the correct 
> thickness (.010?). ?Just hoping I don?t need to reduce piston 
> compression height as well?.
> Regards,
> Phil
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 14, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> You can also make some custom thickness replacements for the figure 8 
>> gaskets to tune the protrusion.? You can get brass shim stock from 
>> local hardware store or McMaster Carr and cut out with scissors / 
>> snips.? I do separate O shapes, the siamesed cylinders don't really 
>> need the gasket combined into a fig 8 one.
>>
>> Decking the block on the wet liner engine makes this more fiddly.? 
>> You'll want to verify piston height at TDC too.
>>
>> Regards, Tony Drews
>>
>> On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Yott via Fot wrote:
>>> You can machine the cylinder seat the required amount.? I have a set 
>>> of mandrels I made and do this frequently on the lathe.
>>>
>>> Steve Yott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Yott
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Date: 5/14/23 1:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
>>>
>>> Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding 
>>> .011?? The head has been staked per Kas?s book.
>>> I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop 
>>> delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal 
>>> installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam 
>>> bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can 
>>> assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble?? I 
>>> don?t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will use 
>>> Hylomar on a .020? steel head gasket with the raised corrugating 
>>> around the oil and water galleys.
>>> The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? 
>>> during a test day.
>>> Please advise.
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Phil Gott
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>
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From vfracing at aol.com  Mon May 15 14:29:47 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 16:29:47 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
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From lymanazhd at yahoo.com  Mon May 15 21:36:36 2023
From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 20:36:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Square Drive Latch Covers
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Anyone recognize and know years, make & model of British car that used these latch covers?
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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Tue May 16 04:05:40 2023
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 06:05:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Square Drive Latch Covers
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They look like the ones on TR2.

Regards,
Doug Mitchell
dbm.spitfire at gmail.com

On Tue, May 16, 2023, 1:35 AM Lyman Scherer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Anyone recognize and know years, make & model of British car that used
> these latch covers?
>
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From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Tue May 16 04:17:40 2023
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob Davis)
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 06:17:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Square Drive Latch Covers
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Triumph TR2 and early TR3.

On 5/15/23 11:36 PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote:
> Anyone recognize and know years, make & model of British car that used these latch covers?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue May 16 21:09:20 2023
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 22:09:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Product analysis from the truly Vintage FGR garage.
Message-ID: <6094E3AA-E9B5-4B6E-911D-B67A6C9973B4@multivintage.com>

These ?Filt-o Reg? fuel pressure regulators have served me well over the years.  
I have had them in race service for decades in several GT6 race cars.
Never a failure.
100s of races.
Set it at desired pressure via the dial.
Spot on.
Alas, like many of our old beloved....
Regretfully Replaced today by Friendly Ghost Racing.
Here is the original unit and the ?slightly more?  Expensive modern equivalent;  replaced, By the passage of time.
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Fun stuff.
Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars.
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Wed May 17 08:45:57 2023
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 09:45:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
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References: <20230514201811.9280BA0C8B@autox.team.net>
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I don't see how anyone ever gets this right without a variety of gasket 
thicknesses. I bought brass shim stock of various thicknesses and cut a 
bunch of shims. The problem using snips is it is difficult to cut the 
inner diameter. You can make nice cuts using a cheap circular cutter and 
a drill press. They will tend to curl up, but you can work around that. 
Photos are needed to explain the procedure. I think Tony used to have 
photos at his site. If they aren't still there, I can try and locate them.
 ?- Larry

On 5/14/2023 4:24 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:
>
> You can also make some custom thickness replacements for the figure 8 
> gaskets to tune the protrusion.? You can get brass shim stock from 
> local hardware store or McMaster Carr and cut out with scissors / 
> snips.? I do separate O shapes, the siamesed cylinders don't really 
> need the gasket combined into a fig 8 one.
>
> Decking the block on the wet liner engine makes this more fiddly.? 
> You'll want to verify piston height at TDC too.
>
> Regards, Tony Drews
>
> On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Yott via Fot wrote:
>> You can machine the cylinder seat the required amount.? I have a set 
>> of mandrels I made and do this frequently on the lathe.
>>
>> Steve Yott
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Yott
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Date: 5/14/23 1:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
>>
>> Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding .011?? 
>> The head has been staked per Kas?s book.
>> I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop delays) 
>> and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal installed. It 
>> has been decked already. Also line bored and cam bearings and cam 
>> installed and timed. I want to know if I can assemble this with 
>> confidence or if I am asking for trouble?? I don?t anticipate 
>> problems with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar on a .020? 
>> steel head gasket with the raised corrugating around the oil and 
>> water galleys.
>> The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? 
>> during a test day.
>> Please advise.
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Phil Gott
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Wed May 17 08:48:44 2023
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 09:48:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Square Drive Latch Covers
In-Reply-To: <5D8882D1-F75A-4EC7-89FC-4965A214EC03@yahoo.com>
References: <5D8882D1-F75A-4EC7-89FC-4965A214EC03.ref@yahoo.com>
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I had a 1948 Allard with them. I'd guess they were used on many cars of 
that era. - Larry Young

On 5/15/2023 10:36 PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote:
> Anyone recognize and know years, make & model of British car that used these latch covers?
>
>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed May 17 09:09:49 2023
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 10:09:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
In-Reply-To: <808bb10f-4cda-0080-1205-2598d6dc0303@pobox.com>
References: <20230514201811.9280BA0C8B@autox.team.net>
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Pictures are at the bottom of this page:

https://tonydrews.com/uncle_jacks_engine_building_tips.htm

Regards, Tony Drews

On 5/17/2023 9:45 AM, Larry Young via Fot wrote:
> I don't see how anyone ever gets this right without a variety of 
> gasket thicknesses. I bought brass shim stock of various thicknesses 
> and cut a bunch of shims. The problem using snips is it is difficult 
> to cut the inner diameter. You can make nice cuts using a cheap 
> circular cutter and a drill press. They will tend to curl up, but you 
> can work around that. Photos are needed to explain the procedure. I 
> think Tony used to have photos at his site. If they aren't still 
> there, I can try and locate them.
> ?- Larry
>
> On 5/14/2023 4:24 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:
>>
>> You can also make some custom thickness replacements for the figure 8 
>> gaskets to tune the protrusion.? You can get brass shim stock from 
>> local hardware store or McMaster Carr and cut out with scissors / 
>> snips.? I do separate O shapes, the siamesed cylinders don't really 
>> need the gasket combined into a fig 8 one.
>>
>> Decking the block on the wet liner engine makes this more fiddly.? 
>> You'll want to verify piston height at TDC too.
>>
>> Regards, Tony Drews
>>
>> On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Yott via Fot wrote:
>>> You can machine the cylinder seat the required amount.? I have a set 
>>> of mandrels I made and do this frequently on the lathe.
>>>
>>> Steve Yott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Yott
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Date: 5/14/23 1:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
>>>
>>> Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding 
>>> .011?? The head has been staked per Kas?s book.
>>> I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop 
>>> delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal 
>>> installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam 
>>> bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can 
>>> assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble? I don?t 
>>> anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar 
>>> on a .020? steel head gasket with the raised corrugating around the 
>>> oil and water galleys.
>>> The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in ?old reliable? 
>>> during a test day.
>>> Please advise.
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Phil Gott
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>
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From tomstrange5 at gmail.com  Wed May 17 15:30:49 2023
From: tomstrange5 at gmail.com (tom strange)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 17:30:49 -0400
Subject: [Fot] WARNING!
Message-ID: <CALDumpAk2=y=Las8GBZ=wWsBGDZw=c1NXA531RxME3UzDB5v+w@mail.gmail.com>

Everyone,  I just got an email entitled "three photographs to you from
Jerry Barr"

the link is suspicious, and Scott knows nothing about it either.  If anyone
gets it, I'd suggest deleting it.

the header info is:

from:Jerry Barr <agarc273 at mater.colegia.org>to:tomstrange5 at gmail.com
date:May 16, 2023, 12:57?PMsubject:Three photographs to you from Jerry Barr
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu May 18 14:14:34 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 16:14:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Help! TR4 Intake Valve needed at Summit Point
References: <8D0B8FAE-9EDE-4F7C-9468-AF30A3B2DF1D.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8D0B8FAE-9EDE-4F7C-9468-AF30A3B2DF1D@aol.com>

Does any one near Summit Point have a stock size intake valve with. 5/16 diameter stem? We chipped one today?..

Sent from my iPhone

From maddhatt69 at aol.com  Thu May 18 15:42:21 2023
From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 21:42:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help! TR4 Intake Valve needed at Summit Point
In-Reply-To: <8D0B8FAE-9EDE-4F7C-9468-AF30A3B2DF1D@aol.com>
References: <8D0B8FAE-9EDE-4F7C-9468-AF30A3B2DF1D.ref@aol.com>
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Mr. Gott,
I'm driving up to Summit Point tomorrow a.m. from Virginia Beach. If there is anyone in the area or on the way that may have what you need, I can swing by.
M. Huovinen910-619-2952
Sent from AOL on Android 
 
  On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 16:39, Philip Gott via Fot<fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   Does any one near Summit Point have a stock size intake valve with. 5/16 diameter stem? We chipped one today?..

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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu May 18 15:46:00 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 17:46:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Help! TR4 Intake Valve needed at Summit Point
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu May 18 18:51:10 2023
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 20:51:10 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Lucas distributor Dog drive pin size?
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVZdGu4sGbw01dhpKjGMH=1s-Y=dL0JVpUe-LzbN8r28_g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone, I'm building a new distributor for the Spitfire using a
Mallory Dual Point unit, By design, the Mallory comes without a drive gear
on the bottom so it can be used across multiple cars. I have a new dog gear
coming after giving up on driving the pin out of a spare Lucas unit (gave
up before I destroyed a working distributor for an $18 part).

Does anyone have a size or part number for the pin?

Thanks
mike h

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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May 19 09:25:13 2023
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 09:25:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Your picture for the HOF.
In-Reply-To: <000001d98601$5cdfa430$169eec90$@gmail.com>
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On 5/13/23 7:13 PM, Gary Kincel wrote:
> Hi Mark.
> 
> I was wondering if you have picked a picture yet
> 
>

I wish I had the original of my first sports car.  But alas, that one is 
not suitable for putting on a plaque.  I have one older one, and one 
taken this week.  I think I would like the old one of me in my element, 
rather than the one of me as I am now.  What do you think?

mjb.




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From bbtr250 at gmail.com  Fri May 19 09:50:54 2023
From: bbtr250 at gmail.com (Bryan Brazelton)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 10:50:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings
Message-ID: <CAEAi9oO3dbCrF9UOUE2VoSbT858pBeut1BxnCD0X0KjvVOYFEA@mail.gmail.com>

Good Morning group, I'm looking to freshen up the TR 3 race car before we
head up to the Kastner Cup  and was wondering what the best brand of Rod
and Main Bearings there are out there?

Thank You all in advance

-- 
Bryan B.

901-277-7415
Purple People Eater (59 TR 3 Racer)
Jack Wheelers #11 TR 4A
Slagles TR 8 Coupe
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From cak at dimebank.com  Fri May 19 10:13:11 2023
From: cak at dimebank.com (Christopher A Kantarjiev)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 09:13:11 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Your picture for the HOF.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1521.1684509925.2997.fot@autox.team.net>
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It should be the one of you waving goodbye to first place on the VTR 
autox course!


From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May 19 10:51:05 2023
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 10:51:05 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Your picture for the HOF.
In-Reply-To: <9ed26344-67b2-eba4-4cbe-4e8b42129c4e@bradakis.com>
References: <000001d98601$5cdfa430$169eec90$@gmail.com>
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Oops.  That was not supposed to go to the entire list!  But Chris' 
comment about waving goodbye to first place did make me chuckle.  As I 
recall, it may have happened more than once.

mjb.


From tr4 at wi.rr.com  Fri May 19 11:16:16 2023
From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (Steve Yott)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 12:16:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings
In-Reply-To: <CAEAi9oO3dbCrF9UOUE2VoSbT858pBeut1BxnCD0X0KjvVOYFEA@mail.gmail.com>
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King Tri Metal and have them coated by Calico!
-------- Original message --------From: Bryan Brazelton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 5/19/23  11:37 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: FoTTriumph <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings Good Morning group, I'm looking to freshen up the TR 3 race car before we head up to the Kastner Cup? and was wondering what the best brand of Rod and Main Bearings there are out there???Thank You all in advance-- Bryan B.901-277-7415Purple People Eater (59 TR 3 Racer)Jack Wheelers #11 TR 4ASlagles TR 8 Coupe
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From steve at artwithcars.com  Fri May 19 12:00:18 2023
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 11:00:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] VARA British Extravaganza race video
Message-ID: <4EC94F43-C818-4522-B094-3BCBC89DFA11@artwithcars.com>

Hey FOT, please enjoy my TR3 Video from last weekend!
https://youtu.be/CdkQnDC2NLk

~Steve

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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 19 12:22:16 2023
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 18:22:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings
In-Reply-To: <CAEAi9oO3dbCrF9UOUE2VoSbT858pBeut1BxnCD0X0KjvVOYFEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEAi9oO3dbCrF9UOUE2VoSbT858pBeut1BxnCD0X0KjvVOYFEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <198481064.27714.1684520536338@mail.yahoo.com>

 Old NOS Vandervell or REPCO, if you can find them, but they've pretty much dried up.Unless your rods are drilled for an oil squirter ie stock, the 4.2 Jaguar bearings fit the big-end & are somewhat available, plus you get 1 1/2 engines worth in a set.
The Kings seem OK but the thickness on some that I've checked have been a few 10ths off spec, so clearances may have to be adjusted.Also consider having them coated, I've used Polymer Dynamics in Texas for decades.HTH
Glen
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Brazelton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: FoTTriumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, May 19, 2023 11:50 am
Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings

Good Morning group, I'm looking to freshen up the TR 3 race car before we head up to the Kastner Cup? and was wondering what the best brand of Rod and Main Bearings there are out there???
Thank You all in advance

-- 
Bryan B.
901-277-7415Purple People Eater (59 TR 3 Racer)Jack Wheelers #11 TR 4ASlagles TR 8 Coupe_______________________________________________
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Fri May 19 15:13:09 2023
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 21:13:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Fw:  Rod and Main Bearings
In-Reply-To: <198481064.27714.1684520536338@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAEAi9oO3dbCrF9UOUE2VoSbT858pBeut1BxnCD0X0KjvVOYFEA@mail.gmail.com>
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 Hi Bryan.? Just looking through one of my cabinets, I found a brand new set of Vandervell main bearings.? They are standard size, and still in the Vandervell box.? Let me know if these can help you.
Jack

   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>To: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2023 at 04:35:04 PM EDTSubject: Re: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings
  Old NOS Vandervell or REPCO, if you can find them, but they've pretty much dried up.Unless your rods are drilled for an oil squirter ie stock, the 4.2 Jaguar bearings fit the big-end & are somewhat available, plus you get 1 1/2 engines worth in a set.
The Kings seem OK but the thickness on some that I've checked have been a few 10ths off spec, so clearances may have to be adjusted.Also consider having them coated, I've used Polymer Dynamics in Texas for decades.HTH
Glen
 
 
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Sent: Fri, May 19, 2023 11:50 am
Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings

Good Morning group, I'm looking to freshen up the TR 3 race car before we head up to the Kastner Cup? and was wondering what the best brand of Rod and Main Bearings there are out there???
Thank You all in advance

-- 
Bryan B.
901-277-7415Purple People Eater (59 TR 3 Racer)Jack Wheelers #11 TR 4ASlagles TR 8 Coupe_______________________________________________
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Fri May 19 15:38:48 2023
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 17:38:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings
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References: <CAEAi9oO3dbCrF9UOUE2VoSbT858pBeut1BxnCD0X0KjvVOYFEA@mail.gmail.com>
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I have a shelf or two full of NOS Vandervell bearings

Big TR 4 cyl; 6 cyl TR and Spit

 

Russ

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of fubog1 via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2023 2:22 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings

 

Old NOS Vandervell or REPCO, if you can find them, but they've pretty much dried up.

Unless your rods are drilled for an oil squirter ie stock, the 4.2 Jaguar bearings fit the big-end & are somewhat available, plus you get 1 1/2 engines worth in a set.

The Kings seem OK but the thickness on some that I've checked have been a few 10ths off spec, so clearances may have to be adjusted.

Also consider having them coated, I've used Polymer Dynamics in Texas for decades.

HTH

 

Glen

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Brazelton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
To: FoTTriumph <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Fri, May 19, 2023 11:50 am
Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings

Good Morning group, I'm looking to freshen up the TR 3 race car before we head up to the Kastner Cup  and was wondering what the best brand of Rod and Main Bearings there are out there?   

 

Thank You all in advance


 

-- 

Bryan B. 

 

901-277-7415

Purple People Eater (59 TR 3 Racer)

Jack Wheelers #11 TR 4A

Slagles TR 8 Coupe

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri May 19 16:19:35 2023
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sat, 20 May 2023 00:19:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] VARA British Extravaganza race video
In-Reply-To: <4EC94F43-C818-4522-B094-3BCBC89DFA11@artwithcars.com>
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Great racing!

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Steven Belfer via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2023 8:00 PM
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] VARA British Extravaganza race video

 

Hey FOT, please enjoy my TR3 Video from last weekend!

https://youtu.be/CdkQnDC2NLk

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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri May 19 17:07:24 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 19:07:24 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Help! TR4 Intake Valve needed at Summit Point
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat May 20 01:08:59 2023
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sat, 20 May 2023 09:08:59 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Help! TR4 Intake Valve needed at Summit Point
In-Reply-To: <E9290DA2-5EDF-4B34-9782-40CFD4B67BCF@aol.com>
References: <8250F46A-A10E-4A0C-8ED1-40858F47960B@aol.com>
 <E9290DA2-5EDF-4B34-9782-40CFD4B67BCF@aol.com>
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You weren?t ?beaten by Equipment?, so be fast and successful and have fun!

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Philip Gott via Fot
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 1:07 AM
To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Help! TR4 Intake Valve needed at Summit Point

 

Engine back together and running strong! Thanks to everyone for offers of help. Rich Rock brought a very decent used valve that saved the day. Great moral support from other friends,  FOT members and Kastner Cup Champions here at the event. What a great group!

Engine back together in time to make the afternoon session.

Don?t be beaten by equipment!

Thanks again,

Phil

 

Sent from my iPhone





On May 18, 2023, at 6:34 PM, Philip Gott <Vfracing at aol.com <mailto:Vfracing at aol.com> > wrote:

?Thanks all:

Moss is shipping one overnight. Assuming they do that, we?re all set!

Phil

Sent from my iPhone





On May 18, 2023, at 5:42 PM, Mathieu W. Huovinen <maddhatt69 at aol.com <mailto:maddhatt69 at aol.com> > wrote:

?Mr. Gott,

 

I'm driving up to Summit Point tomorrow a.m. from Virginia Beach. If there is anyone in the area or on the way that may have what you need, I can swing by.

 

M. Huovinen

910-619-2952

 

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On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 16:39, Philip Gott via Fot

<fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Does any one near Summit Point have a stock size intake valve with. 5/16 diameter stem? We chipped one today?..

 

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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Sat May 20 06:53:48 2023
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Sat, 20 May 2023 08:53:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dual brake system - TR3 to TR6
Message-ID: <4AE210FB-9DA3-44EE-8819-AF7EAE256E0A@optonline.net>

?Amici,

Has anyone used the Richard Goode Dual brake system setup in a TR3?    It uses a TR6 pedal box and pedals plus all the goodies to put it together.  
If you have, any guidelines to the modifications of the TR3 body to mount the pedals and box?  We are attempting it this weekend, I think, and would like to hear what you?ve done. 

Thanks
Todd

From bbtr250 at gmail.com  Sat May 20 11:36:09 2023
From: bbtr250 at gmail.com (Bryan Brazelton)
Date: Sat, 20 May 2023 12:36:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings
In-Reply-To: <03d801d98a9a$4c5b9f90$e512deb0$@twcny.rr.com>
References: <CAEAi9oO3dbCrF9UOUE2VoSbT858pBeut1BxnCD0X0KjvVOYFEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <198481064.27714.1684520536338@mail.yahoo.com>
 <03d801d98a9a$4c5b9f90$e512deb0$@twcny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAi9oPT1q5W=1uf33V1UFG2sYPt8MOCjYndKf5EMHurr89JnA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you to everyone for the response and information.  I will get the car
in and pull it down and see what size I need , then I will reach out to
those that have them.

Thank You all
Bryan B


On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:36?PM Russ Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I have a shelf or two full of NOS Vandervell bearings
>
> Big TR 4 cyl; 6 cyl TR and Spit
>
>
>
> Russ
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *fubog1 via Fot
> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2023 2:22 PM
> *To:* fot at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings
>
>
>
> Old NOS Vandervell or REPCO, if you can find them, but they've pretty much
> dried up.
>
> Unless your rods are drilled for an oil squirter ie stock, the 4.2 Jaguar
> bearings fit the big-end & are somewhat available, plus you get 1 1/2
> engines worth in a set.
>
> The Kings seem OK but the thickness on some that I've checked have been a
> few 10ths off spec, so clearances may have to be adjusted.
>
> Also consider having them coated, I've used Polymer Dynamics in Texas for
> decades.
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> Glen
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Brazelton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: FoTTriumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, May 19, 2023 11:50 am
> Subject: [Fot] Rod and Main Bearings
>
> Good Morning group, I'm looking to freshen up the TR 3 race car before we
> head up to the Kastner Cup  and was wondering what the best brand of Rod
> and Main Bearings there are out there?
>
>
>
> Thank You all in advance
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bryan B.
>
>
>
> 901-277-7415
>
> Purple People Eater (59 TR 3 Racer)
>
> Jack Wheelers #11 TR 4A
>
> Slagles TR 8 Coupe
>
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From garygret at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 20 22:55:41 2023
From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider)
Date: Sun, 21 May 2023 04:55:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 needs to be adopted out
References: <847908279.436849.1684644941928.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi all,
I'm now retired from racing and winding down the last project cars. I have a 1972 TR6 that is mechanically way better than new but needs some TLC and a good home. Hopefully that might be in the Amici Triumphi family circle. If not I'll likely list it on BaT in a week or two. Any reasonable offer considered, I no longer have the energy or space to finish it and I'd prefer it go to an enthusiast. Could deliver in upper Midwest.

With luck there should be a Word file attached with a link to Google Drive photos. If not, please take a look athttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xRJ7GUzmvLT--7ANiDp_KFk7I5ufxmwX?usp=sharing
Thanks,Gary SchneiderMadison WI
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Mon May 22 07:57:41 2023
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 09:57:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] The Glory Continues - Triumphs at the Jefferson 500
Message-ID: <d4ec5135355c367a47eac77cce9c1561@tr4racer.com>

Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia, site of the 2015 Kcup, we 
again showed how Triumphs continue to get the job done.

The TR3's run in the Donahue Cup group, the Spitfires run the Lola Cup 
group, while Marlboro Cup group runs the TR4, TR6, TR7 and GT6. We saw 
domination in all groups! All groups ran a practice/qualifying session 
Friday morning, then the pace car comes out for the first race of the 
weekend. Saturday morning is another race session followed by a feature 
race Saturday afternoon. Sunday is an enduro in the morning then an 
all-comers race in the afternoon.

In the Donahue Cup, we saw John Styduhar emerge as the class of the 
field, taking home the first overall wins of his racing career. Second 
place in the Cup race belongs to Vic Schuster in the Ambro, then John 
Hasty had his hands FULL with a Renault Spec Racer during the feature 
race but did what he needed to do to complete the podium sweep for 
Triumph. Styduhar won the feature and the Saturday morning race as well! 
Well done John, well deserved and that was a hoot to watch. Everybody 
was happy to see that Mark Rosenberg got the Peerless back together and 
is back on track with this uber-rare Triumph powered racer.

The Lola Cup was dominated by Dave Gussack driving a Vintage Racing 
Services Spitfire, he had the field by two seconds a lap. Unfortunately, 
he didn't finish the feature, but Richard Schnabel driving the recently 
acquired Rob Stewart Spitfire took second overall. Rob's car is 
certainly in great hands.

The Marlboro Cup saw some great racing all weekend. Mike Moore showed 
his stuff to drive for the overall win in the Saturday morning race, 
holding off some great competition. However, buy the time the feature 
race rolled around, a Sports Racer who was put in the group because he 
didn't fit anywhere else worked his way up to start on the front row and 
had the field by a second and a half a lap, so he just ran away with the 
overall win. But we took P2, P3, P4 and P5 out of a field of 36 
starters! Mike Moore ran second in his TR4, Mark Wheatley took third in 
his TR4, Scott Janzen took 4th with his GT6 and Dave Gott took 5th in 
his TR4. Bill Emery came out with Dad's TR7 to give the Wedge crowd a 
car to cheer for, and Mike Kurtz ran well all weekend until almost 
finishing the feature but was sidelined with a mechanical. Jay DePol 
looked great out there in his GT6, Dale Oesterle left the Spitfire at 
home and ran a cool Jensen Healey this weekend.

Me? Kas would not be proud, I was beaten by equipment and never turned a 
timed lap. Must be getting close to time to turn the Trophy back in...

~~~
Henry Frye - if I can't run at least I can write the race report

From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May 22 09:00:43 2023
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 10:00:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] The Glory Continues - Triumphs at the Jefferson 500
In-Reply-To: <d4ec5135355c367a47eac77cce9c1561@tr4racer.com>
References: <d4ec5135355c367a47eac77cce9c1561@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <7C05F2CB-41BC-48C2-A0D8-B834F68E64E1@gmail.com>

Thanks Henry?.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 22, 2023, at 9:53 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia, site of the 2015 Kcup, we again showed how Triumphs continue to get the job done.
> 
> The TR3's run in the Donahue Cup group, the Spitfires run the Lola Cup group, while Marlboro Cup group runs the TR4, TR6, TR7 and GT6. We saw domination in all groups! All groups ran a practice/qualifying session Friday morning, then the pace car comes out for the first race of the weekend. Saturday morning is another race session followed by a feature race Saturday afternoon. Sunday is an enduro in the morning then an all-comers race in the afternoon.
> 
> In the Donahue Cup, we saw John Styduhar emerge as the class of the field, taking home the first overall wins of his racing career. Second place in the Cup race belongs to Vic Schuster in the Ambro, then John Hasty had his hands FULL with a Renault Spec Racer during the feature race but did what he needed to do to complete the podium sweep for Triumph. Styduhar won the feature and the Saturday morning race as well! Well done John, well deserved and that was a hoot to watch. Everybody was happy to see that Mark Rosenberg got the Peerless back together and is back on track with this uber-rare Triumph powered racer.
> 
> The Lola Cup was dominated by Dave Gussack driving a Vintage Racing Services Spitfire, he had the field by two seconds a lap. Unfortunately, he didn't finish the feature, but Richard Schnabel driving the recently acquired Rob Stewart Spitfire took second overall. Rob's car is certainly in great hands.
> 
> The Marlboro Cup saw some great racing all weekend. Mike Moore showed his stuff to drive for the overall win in the Saturday morning race, holding off some great competition. However, buy the time the feature race rolled around, a Sports Racer who was put in the group because he didn't fit anywhere else worked his way up to start on the front row and had the field by a second and a half a lap, so he just ran away with the overall win. But we took P2, P3, P4 and P5 out of a field of 36 starters! Mike Moore ran second in his TR4, Mark Wheatley took third in his TR4, Scott Janzen took 4th with his GT6 and Dave Gott took 5th in his TR4. Bill Emery came out with Dad's TR7 to give the Wedge crowd a car to cheer for, and Mike Kurtz ran well all weekend until almost finishing the feature but was sidelined with a mechanical. Jay DePol looked great out there in his GT6, Dale Oesterle left the Spitfire at home and ran a cool Jensen Healey this weekend.
> 
> Me? Kas would not be proud, I was beaten by equipment and never turned a timed lap. Must be getting close to time to turn the Trophy back in...
> 
> ~~~
> Henry Frye - if I can't run at least I can write the race report
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon May 22 09:10:06 2023
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 08:10:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] The Glory Continues - Triumphs at the Jefferson 500
In-Reply-To: <d4ec5135355c367a47eac77cce9c1561@tr4racer.com>
References: <d4ec5135355c367a47eac77cce9c1561@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <1265941526.650656.1684768206504@connect.xfinity.com>

Excellent report, Henry.
Congratulations to the Triumph competitors for such a strong dominating performance.
Especially Mike and John.  A big congratulations! 
Dave H.

> On 05/22/2023 6:57 AM PDT yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia, site of the 2015 Kcup, we 
> again showed how Triumphs continue to get the job done.
> 
> The TR3's run in the Donahue Cup group, the Spitfires run the Lola Cup 
> group, while Marlboro Cup group runs the TR4, TR6, TR7 and GT6. We saw 
> domination in all groups! All groups ran a practice/qualifying session 
> Friday morning, then the pace car comes out for the first race of the 
> weekend. Saturday morning is another race session followed by a feature 
> race Saturday afternoon. Sunday is an enduro in the morning then an 
> all-comers race in the afternoon.
> 
> In the Donahue Cup, we saw John Styduhar emerge as the class of the 
> field, taking home the first overall wins of his racing career. Second 
> place in the Cup race belongs to Vic Schuster in the Ambro, then John 
> Hasty had his hands FULL with a Renault Spec Racer during the feature 
> race but did what he needed to do to complete the podium sweep for 
> Triumph. Styduhar won the feature and the Saturday morning race as well! 
> Well done John, well deserved and that was a hoot to watch. Everybody 
> was happy to see that Mark Rosenberg got the Peerless back together and 
> is back on track with this uber-rare Triumph powered racer.
> 
> The Lola Cup was dominated by Dave Gussack driving a Vintage Racing 
> Services Spitfire, he had the field by two seconds a lap. Unfortunately, 
> he didn't finish the feature, but Richard Schnabel driving the recently 
> acquired Rob Stewart Spitfire took second overall. Rob's car is 
> certainly in great hands.
> 
> The Marlboro Cup saw some great racing all weekend. Mike Moore showed 
> his stuff to drive for the overall win in the Saturday morning race, 
> holding off some great competition. However, buy the time the feature 
> race rolled around, a Sports Racer who was put in the group because he 
> didn't fit anywhere else worked his way up to start on the front row and 
> had the field by a second and a half a lap, so he just ran away with the 
> overall win. But we took P2, P3, P4 and P5 out of a field of 36 
> starters! Mike Moore ran second in his TR4, Mark Wheatley took third in 
> his TR4, Scott Janzen took 4th with his GT6 and Dave Gott took 5th in 
> his TR4. Bill Emery came out with Dad's TR7 to give the Wedge crowd a 
> car to cheer for, and Mike Kurtz ran well all weekend until almost 
> finishing the feature but was sidelined with a mechanical. Jay DePol 
> looked great out there in his GT6, Dale Oesterle left the Spitfire at 
> home and ran a cool Jensen Healey this weekend.
> 
> Me? Kas would not be proud, I was beaten by equipment and never turned a 
> timed lap. Must be getting close to time to turn the Trophy back in...
> 
> ~~~
> Henry Frye - if I can't run at least I can write the race report
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From peterkbulkowski at gmail.com  Mon May 22 09:28:29 2023
From: peterkbulkowski at gmail.com (Peter Bulkowski)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 11:28:29 -0400
Subject: [Fot] The Glory Continues - Triumphs at the Jefferson 500
In-Reply-To: <d4ec5135355c367a47eac77cce9c1561@tr4racer.com>
References: <d4ec5135355c367a47eac77cce9c1561@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <CAJHO_irMtX1XHoPZtvKqXxeX0tz5HLNez5jPc5VCbOmma6LeLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Henry thanks for the update and great story go FOT.

On Mon, May 22, 2023, 11:00 AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia, site of the 2015 Kcup, we
> again showed how Triumphs continue to get the job done.
>
> The TR3's run in the Donahue Cup group, the Spitfires run the Lola Cup
> group, while Marlboro Cup group runs the TR4, TR6, TR7 and GT6. We saw
> domination in all groups! All groups ran a practice/qualifying session
> Friday morning, then the pace car comes out for the first race of the
> weekend. Saturday morning is another race session followed by a feature
> race Saturday afternoon. Sunday is an enduro in the morning then an
> all-comers race in the afternoon.
>
> In the Donahue Cup, we saw John Styduhar emerge as the class of the
> field, taking home the first overall wins of his racing career. Second
> place in the Cup race belongs to Vic Schuster in the Ambro, then John
> Hasty had his hands FULL with a Renault Spec Racer during the feature
> race but did what he needed to do to complete the podium sweep for
> Triumph. Styduhar won the feature and the Saturday morning race as well!
> Well done John, well deserved and that was a hoot to watch. Everybody
> was happy to see that Mark Rosenberg got the Peerless back together and
> is back on track with this uber-rare Triumph powered racer.
>
> The Lola Cup was dominated by Dave Gussack driving a Vintage Racing
> Services Spitfire, he had the field by two seconds a lap. Unfortunately,
> he didn't finish the feature, but Richard Schnabel driving the recently
> acquired Rob Stewart Spitfire took second overall. Rob's car is
> certainly in great hands.
>
> The Marlboro Cup saw some great racing all weekend. Mike Moore showed
> his stuff to drive for the overall win in the Saturday morning race,
> holding off some great competition. However, buy the time the feature
> race rolled around, a Sports Racer who was put in the group because he
> didn't fit anywhere else worked his way up to start on the front row and
> had the field by a second and a half a lap, so he just ran away with the
> overall win. But we took P2, P3, P4 and P5 out of a field of 36
> starters! Mike Moore ran second in his TR4, Mark Wheatley took third in
> his TR4, Scott Janzen took 4th with his GT6 and Dave Gott took 5th in
> his TR4. Bill Emery came out with Dad's TR7 to give the Wedge crowd a
> car to cheer for, and Mike Kurtz ran well all weekend until almost
> finishing the feature but was sidelined with a mechanical. Jay DePol
> looked great out there in his GT6, Dale Oesterle left the Spitfire at
> home and ran a cool Jensen Healey this weekend.
>
> Me? Kas would not be proud, I was beaten by equipment and never turned a
> timed lap. Must be getting close to time to turn the Trophy back in...
>
> ~~~
> Henry Frye - if I can't run at least I can write the race report
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon May 22 10:51:40 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 12:51:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] PVGP Historics Early bird rate
Message-ID: <BB3A3B59-FEB7-4748-AB15-96D5EB061F5A@me.com>

If you are entering, the facts sheet says yesterday was the last day to enter at $575, then goes to $625, but Hagerty/motorsportreg just charged me $575 this morning.

Might want to sign up asap.  You will need a photo of your license to complete the registration, even if you usually use MSR.

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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Mon May 22 11:22:11 2023
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 17:22:11 +0000
Subject: [Fot] The Glory Continues - Triumphs at the Jefferson 500
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Thanks Henry... Yes an epic battle with that darn sports racer... It will be a long time before I forget it!  As you mentioned, Richard Schnabel  (richard467schnabel at gmail.co,) had his first event in the Rob Stewart Spit. and was very pleased with it.  He formerly owned a Spit in the past but went off course and raced Volvo's, MG-A's and a Miata over a period of many years. He races out of the Baucom Mortorsport clan with me.  A truly good guy. I offer him as a worthy member of our group.  Mark, Please add his name to the list.  Thanks.....

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:58 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] The Glory Continues - Triumphs at the Jefferson 500

Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia, site of the 2015 Kcup, we again showed how Triumphs continue to get the job done.

The TR3's run in the Donahue Cup group, the Spitfires run the Lola Cup group, while Marlboro Cup group runs the TR4, TR6, TR7 and GT6. We saw domination in all groups! All groups ran a practice/qualifying session Friday morning, then the pace car comes out for the first race of the weekend. Saturday morning is another race session followed by a feature race Saturday afternoon. Sunday is an enduro in the morning then an all-comers race in the afternoon.

In the Donahue Cup, we saw John Styduhar emerge as the class of the field, taking home the first overall wins of his racing career. Second place in the Cup race belongs to Vic Schuster in the Ambro, then John Hasty had his hands FULL with a Renault Spec Racer during the feature race but did what he needed to do to complete the podium sweep for Triumph. Styduhar won the feature and the Saturday morning race as well! 
Well done John, well deserved and that was a hoot to watch. Everybody was happy to see that Mark Rosenberg got the Peerless back together and is back on track with this uber-rare Triumph powered racer.

The Lola Cup was dominated by Dave Gussack driving a Vintage Racing Services Spitfire, he had the field by two seconds a lap. Unfortunately, he didn't finish the feature, but Richard Schnabel driving the recently acquired Rob Stewart Spitfire took second overall. Rob's car is certainly in great hands.

The Marlboro Cup saw some great racing all weekend. Mike Moore showed his stuff to drive for the overall win in the Saturday morning race, holding off some great competition. However, buy the time the feature race rolled around, a Sports Racer who was put in the group because he didn't fit anywhere else worked his way up to start on the front row and had the field by a second and a half a lap, so he just ran away with the overall win. But we took P2, P3, P4 and P5 out of a field of 36 starters! Mike Moore ran second in his TR4, Mark Wheatley took third in his TR4, Scott Janzen took 4th with his GT6 and Dave Gott took 5th in his TR4. Bill Emery came out with Dad's TR7 to give the Wedge crowd a car to cheer for, and Mike Kurtz ran well all weekend until almost finishing the feature but was sidelined with a mechanical. Jay DePol looked great out there in his GT6, Dale Oesterle left the Spitfire at home and ran a cool Jensen Healey this weekend.

Me? Kas would not be proud, I was beaten by equipment and never turned a timed lap. Must be getting close to time to turn the Trophy back in...

~~~
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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Mon May 22 13:05:38 2023
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 19:05:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] WTD: TR3 Hard top
Message-ID: <IA1PR19MB634751856672707630E160A9AB439@IA1PR19MB6347.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all :-)

I?m looking for a hardtop for my TR3 race car. 
Fiberglass would be okay. ! 
Bonus points if I can pick up at RA in July!

Plz call/ tx me at 2o6 612 1782

TIA 
Tony Garmey

Sent from my iPhone

From jason at multivintage.com  Mon May 22 15:37:51 2023
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 16:37:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bushings, Bazookas and smoke bombs.
Message-ID: <1F5E3E70-341F-4EF9-9CBB-3F5FDD5317F7@multivintage.com>

With this years quest to win the Kastner Cup. I couldn?t pass up the opportunity for an early in the season chance at some extra laps at Road America. So I entered the Spring Vintage weekend with SVRA.
I bit the bullet and paid the non-refundable $895 Knowing that my car was not quite ready for the track. 
I thrashed on the beast with a few sleepless nights and managed to get ?pretty close? to being fully prepared.
In the off season we had put together a new cooling system and radiator, new fuel regulator and some fuel lines. On the final night, It came down to the wire as we happened to order a wrong adapter fitting for the fuel pressure gauge. I had the fitting express shipped to the track but without it, never got a chance to start the car prior to arrival at the glorious  kettle moraine. 
Anyway, the part arrived as hoped and everything that we had worked on looked good and seemed to be flowing nicely. 
It is typical that the first couple of starts for the season that I get a little weep of fuel drip coming from the bottom of my tried and true Stromberg 1.50?s. 
We had a little leak again this time but it finally stopped.  I had already missed the first session and still had to do the final safety check of the rear suspension.
That?s when I suddenly remembered that last season I had done a quick trackside fix to one of the rear wishbone bushings. It was tired and I had put a washer in place of a misshaped bushing. Well it had worked for that one last session. But it was not safe. 
How could I have forgotten something so critical. 
I felt shame. 
What would Kas have thought of this horrible miss in preparation?
With no spares on hand it seemed I was doomed.
Rescue came from 2 of Triumph?s best friends. 
- Richard And Dan Gehweiler Ageed to have me bring my wishbones to their shop for an 11th hour custom bushing making session. 
Richard started with a coffee can size chunk of Delron; chocked it in the lathe and let the plastic bits start flying. We measured everything to ultra precise micrometer readings  and about an hour later we had 4 of the best exact fit Steel sleeve bushings I have ever had. That?s a total A+ to the Stonefield Vintage boys!
Thank you!
I went back to the track and put everything back together. It was 10:30 pm and I had missed the entire 1st day.
Saturday morning I got the car through a tough and quite involved tech session and made a few laps in the qualifying session.
Basically just a shake down, bedding brakes, sniffing for leaks and feeling quite run down. 
Back in the paddock the fuel started leaking again.
We monkeyed with it a bit but didn?t really have the right parts to fix it correctly.   I fashioned some silicone tubing So that if it leaked on track it would drop below the frame and not on the headers.
Nothing to be proud of, but what I did.
I took the green flag For feature race 1 and kicked some Austin Healey and MGB ass.
Set my best time ever, 17th overall and 3rd in D production.
Sunday I had some great racing and moved up another couple spots to 11th overall and 2nd in D prod. Took home a nice little silver medallion.
Unknown to me at the time I got an email This morning from Eric ?Jake? from FOT.
Telling me that he was watching from the inside of Canada corner and apparently there were flames shooting out from under my right wheelwell as the tube I made up acted like a bazooka type flame thrower. I guess every time I entered the braking zone the car started on fire.
Whoops!
I killed it in the race though.
The racing Gods punished me for living on the edge of burning it all down.
My van broke down on the way home and it looked like I had set off a smoke bomb on interstate 57.
Guess where... right on the exit ramp leading to the Gehweiler?s shop. 
Dan and Richard had to rescue me yet again. This time hauling my trailer back to their house and helping me and a cop limp my van to a safe place off the highway.
I got a ride back to Chicago from Brian Garcia ...carless, vanless. 
As I was Getting ready to head back home they asked me what I needed to grab out of my stuff...
I said ?Only My Silver Medal?

Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars.
Sent from my iPhone

From fintouch at ptd.net  Mon May 22 16:06:37 2023
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 18:06:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] PVGP Historics Early bird rate
In-Reply-To: <BB3A3B59-FEB7-4748-AB15-96D5EB061F5A@me.com>
References: <BB3A3B59-FEB7-4748-AB15-96D5EB061F5A@me.com>
Message-ID: <99dd4317-9852-2b0f-02b1-ad2eee4443ac@ptd.net>

I signed in last evening (Sunday) and it charged me $625.... Who handles 
the billing/pricing, maybe I can reach out to them..
Mike Kurtz




On 5/22/2023 12:51 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
> If you are entering, the facts sheet says yesterday was the last day 
> to enter at $575, then goes to $625, but Hagerty/motorsportreg just 
> charged me $575 this morning.
>
> Might want to sign up asap. ?You will need a photo of your license to 
> complete the registration, even if you usually use MSR.
>
>
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon May 22 21:26:10 2023
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 20:26:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] WTD: TR3 Hard top
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I think I have one. 
I?ll look tomorrow, yours if you want it. 

Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On May 22, 2023, at 12:05 PM, Tony Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all :-)
> 
> I?m looking for a hardtop for my TR3 race car. 
> Fiberglass would be okay. ! 
> Bonus points if I can pick up at RA in July!
> 
> Plz call/ tx me at 2o6 612 1782
> 
> TIA 
> Tony Garmey
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From jgtrudeau at comcast.net  Tue May 23 05:22:31 2023
From: jgtrudeau at comcast.net (James Trudeau)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 07:22:31 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
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Thanks again to all my wheel advisors. I ordered 4 Gunmetal John Brown Wheels from JBW themselves (in Britain) late last Weds night. I received them this Monday! Very impressive speed and half the cost of new US sourced wheels. Packed like the Crown Jewels themselves with a foam hairnet to boot! They are almost too pretty to race, if not for the extra work, I?d be tempted to swap the rain/storage tires onto them!

Any comments on using bolt on stems in lieu of the rubber? (I was planning on bolt on as my other wheels have). 

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2023, at 8:03 PM, James Trudeau <jgtrudeau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Wow, lots of options to check out!
> 
> Thanks everyone!
> 
> Jim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 12, 2023, at 9:58 AM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?I have some Hoosiertires/VTO wheels for sale. $800 plus shipping 
>>  Contact me if interested for more pics and info
>> 
>> <image0.jpeg>
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Commodore 64
>> 
>> The Story of Stuff
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM
>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2023, at 6:20 AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?Try VTO wheels. 
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2023, at 7:02 AM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?I?m looking for another set of Minilight or Supersport style race wheels for my Spitfire.
>>>> 
>>>> Moss Motors has them for $230 each, but Mike H pointed me to some significantly lower cost British suppliers, which unfortunately only have 5? width in stock, currently. 
>>>> 
>>>> Any other new or used options I?m overlooking?
>>>> 
>>>> I might end up getting new narrower wheels and put the seldom used rain/storage tires on, freeing up another set of 5.5? wides for Hoosiers. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jim 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue May 23 05:31:20 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 07:31:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
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I use rubber as that?s all that will fit and have not had any issues.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2023, at 7:26 AM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> <IMG_2009.jpeg>
> <IMG_2008.jpeg>
> 
> Thanks again to all my wheel advisors. I ordered 4 Gunmetal John Brown Wheels from JBW themselves (in Britain) late last Weds night. I received them this Monday! Very impressive speed and half the cost of new US sourced wheels. Packed like the Crown Jewels themselves with a foam hairnet to boot! They are almost too pretty to race, if not for the extra work, I?d be tempted to swap the rain/storage tires onto them!
> 
> Any comments on using bolt on stems in lieu of the rubber? (I was planning on bolt on as my other wheels have). 
> 
> Jim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 12, 2023, at 8:03 PM, James Trudeau <jgtrudeau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?Wow, lots of options to check out!
>> 
>> Thanks everyone!
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2023, at 9:58 AM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?I have some Hoosiertires/VTO wheels for sale. $800 plus shipping 
>>>  Contact me if interested for more pics and info
>>> 
>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Commodore 64
>>> 
>>> The Story of Stuff
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM
>>> 
>>>>> On May 12, 2023, at 6:20 AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> ?Try VTO wheels. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 12, 2023, at 7:02 AM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?I?m looking for another set of Minilight or Supersport style race wheels for my Spitfire.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Moss Motors has them for $230 each, but Mike H pointed me to some significantly lower cost British suppliers, which unfortunately only have 5? width in stock, currently. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any other new or used options I?m overlooking?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I might end up getting new narrower wheels and put the seldom used rain/storage tires on, freeing up another set of 5.5? wides for Hoosiers. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>>> 
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Tue May 23 06:09:03 2023
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 08:09:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 5.5 x 13 Spitfire Wheels
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Hi Jim, I have those wheels on the race Spit and street spits with both
rubber and metal stems. I never had a problem with either one.

Now, the motorhome tow vehicle, with 80 PSI tires and heat from stopping
12,000 Lbs, metal only.

mike h

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On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:01?AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I use rubber as that?s all that will fit and have not had any issues.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 23, 2023, at 7:26 AM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> <IMG_2009.jpeg>
> <IMG_2008.jpeg>
>
>
> Thanks again to all my wheel advisors. I ordered 4 Gunmetal John Brown
> Wheels from JBW themselves (in Britain) late last Weds night. I received
> them this Monday! Very impressive speed and half the cost of new US sourced
> wheels. Packed like the Crown Jewels themselves with a foam hairnet to
> boot! They are almost too pretty to race, if not for the extra work, I?d be
> tempted to swap the rain/storage tires onto them!
>
>
> Any comments on using bolt on stems in lieu of the rubber? (I was planning
> on bolt on as my other wheels have).
>
>
> Jim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 12, 2023, at 8:03 PM, James Trudeau <jgtrudeau at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ?Wow, lots of options to check out!
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> Jim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 12, 2023, at 9:58 AM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ?I have some Hoosiertires/VTO wheels for sale. $800 plus shipping
>  Contact me if interested for more pics and info
>
> <image0.jpeg>
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64
>
> The Story of Stuff
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM
>
> On May 12, 2023, at 6:20 AM, Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?Try VTO wheels.
>
> On May 12, 2023, at 7:02 AM, James Trudeau via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> ?I?m looking for another set of Minilight or Supersport style race wheels
> for my Spitfire.
>
>
> Moss Motors has them for $230 each, but Mike H pointed me to some
> significantly lower cost British suppliers, which unfortunately only have
> 5? width in stock, currently.
>
>
> Any other new or used options I?m overlooking?
>
>
> I might end up getting new narrower wheels and put the seldom used
> rain/storage tires on, freeing up another set of 5.5? wides for Hoosiers.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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>
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 17:03:51 2023
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 19:03:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2023 Kastner Cup
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Hello all,

I just signed up for the Kastner Cup!  

Here?s a picture of me and some of my new race friends now that I live in the southeast.

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Most of them are going this year.  Any of my old race friends other than Jerry Barker and John Frymark going to make it?  It would be great to see you all again!  I?ll even introduce you to my new race friends (although you may know them already)!

Just remember, there is no such thing as a good excuse.

See you at Road America!

Chuck Gee
1967 Triumph TR4A - the scourge of Mike Bruner

From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 17:16:30 2023
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 19:16:30 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bushings, Bazookas and smoke bombs.
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Very nice Jason!  Looking forward to catching up in July!

Chuck

> On May 22, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?With this years quest to win the Kastner Cup. I couldn?t pass up the opportunity for an early in the season chance at some extra laps at Road America. So I entered the Spring Vintage weekend with SVRA.
> I bit the bullet and paid the non-refundable $895 Knowing that my car was not quite ready for the track. 
> I thrashed on the beast with a few sleepless nights and managed to get ?pretty close? to being fully prepared.
> In the off season we had put together a new cooling system and radiator, new fuel regulator and some fuel lines. On the final night, It came down to the wire as we happened to order a wrong adapter fitting for the fuel pressure gauge. I had the fitting express shipped to the track but without it, never got a chance to start the car prior to arrival at the glorious  kettle moraine. 
> Anyway, the part arrived as hoped and everything that we had worked on looked good and seemed to be flowing nicely. 
> It is typical that the first couple of starts for the season that I get a little weep of fuel drip coming from the bottom of my tried and true Stromberg 1.50?s. 
> We had a little leak again this time but it finally stopped.  I had already missed the first session and still had to do the final safety check of the rear suspension.
> That?s when I suddenly remembered that last season I had done a quick trackside fix to one of the rear wishbone bushings. It was tired and I had put a washer in place of a misshaped bushing. Well it had worked for that one last session. But it was not safe. 
> How could I have forgotten something so critical. 
> I felt shame. 
> What would Kas have thought of this horrible miss in preparation?
> With no spares on hand it seemed I was doomed.
> Rescue came from 2 of Triumph?s best friends. 
> - Richard And Dan Gehweiler Ageed to have me bring my wishbones to their shop for an 11th hour custom bushing making session. 
> Richard started with a coffee can size chunk of Delron; chocked it in the lathe and let the plastic bits start flying. We measured everything to ultra precise micrometer readings  and about an hour later we had 4 of the best exact fit Steel sleeve bushings I have ever had. That?s a total A+ to the Stonefield Vintage boys!
> Thank you!
> I went back to the track and put everything back together. It was 10:30 pm and I had missed the entire 1st day.
> Saturday morning I got the car through a tough and quite involved tech session and made a few laps in the qualifying session.
> Basically just a shake down, bedding brakes, sniffing for leaks and feeling quite run down. 
> Back in the paddock the fuel started leaking again.
> We monkeyed with it a bit but didn?t really have the right parts to fix it correctly.   I fashioned some silicone tubing So that if it leaked on track it would drop below the frame and not on the headers.
> Nothing to be proud of, but what I did.
> I took the green flag For feature race 1 and kicked some Austin Healey and MGB ass.
> Set my best time ever, 17th overall and 3rd in D production.
> Sunday I had some great racing and moved up another couple spots to 11th overall and 2nd in D prod. Took home a nice little silver medallion.
> Unknown to me at the time I got an email This morning from Eric ?Jake? from FOT.
> Telling me that he was watching from the inside of Canada corner and apparently there were flames shooting out from under my right wheelwell as the tube I made up acted like a bazooka type flame thrower. I guess every time I entered the braking zone the car started on fire.
> Whoops!
> I killed it in the race though.
> The racing Gods punished me for living on the edge of burning it all down.
> My van broke down on the way home and it looked like I had set off a smoke bomb on interstate 57.
> Guess where... right on the exit ramp leading to the Gehweiler?s shop. 
> Dan and Richard had to rescue me yet again. This time hauling my trailer back to their house and helping me and a cop limp my van to a safe place off the highway.
> I got a ride back to Chicago from Brian Garcia ...carless, vanless. 
> As I was Getting ready to head back home they asked me what I needed to grab out of my stuff...
> I said ?Only My Silver Medal?
> 
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing 
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars.
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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Tue May 23 17:55:02 2023
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 23:55:02 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2023 Kastner Cup
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Some of those faces are decidedly not from the Southeast!

Mike Jackson - Southeast Florida
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Subject: [Fot] 2023 Kastner Cup

Hello all,

I just signed up for the Kastner Cup!

Here&rsquo;s a picture of me and some of my new race friends now that I live in the southeast.




Most of them are going this year. Any of my old race friends other than Jerry Barker and John Frymark going to make it? It would be great to see you all again! I&rsquo;ll even introduce you to my new race friends (although you may know them already)!

Just remember, there is no such thing as a good excuse.

See you at Road America!

Chuck Gee
1967 Triumph TR4A - the scourge of Mike Bruner
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue May 23 18:45:22 2023
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 19:45:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2023 Kastner Cup
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That?s a pretty motley lookin crew.
Judging by various early season race results, stories, and recaps; Me thinks this years Kastner Cup might show the world some of the best Triumph racing ever seen.
The new track paving is spectacular. 
I see excellence in cars and drivers coming from all over.
Can?t wait!
Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2023, at 6:22 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello all,
> 
> I just signed up for the Kastner Cup!  
> 
> Here?s a picture of me and some of my new race friends now that I live in the southeast.
> 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> 
> Most of them are going this year.  Any of my old race friends other than Jerry Barker and John Frymark going to make it?  It would be great to see you all again!  I?ll even introduce you to my new race friends (although you may know them already)!
> 
> Just remember, there is no such thing as a good excuse.
> 
> See you at Road America!
> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 25 08:33:08 2023
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 09:33:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SS TR6 Valves.  Need a full set. Can anyone help?
Message-ID: <7E15ED44-5419-496C-B16F-19B7DD49A6EA@gmail.com>

Thanks.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Sat May 27 09:01:09 2023
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 10:01:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
Message-ID: <CAAGAaPXXLNrTzH6=Nkbs3=1ke4x2Q6xqoK7b5nG52ikiAz4ouQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all.
  Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the
clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
 So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder
but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and
less clutch movement.
Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
 Any ideas?
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sat May 27 10:30:19 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 12:30:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
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Have you tried bleeding it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2023, at 11:16 AM, McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi all.
>   Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
>  So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and less clutch movement.
> Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
>  Any ideas?
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat May 27 10:38:55 2023
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 18:38:55 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
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I do have this phenomenon on my TR4 as well.

My best guess is thermal expansion of aluminum bellhousing, while the pushrod remains cold in the air under the car.

 

My solution:

Setting the pushrod tight enough to have no binding.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2023 5:01 PM
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Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder

 

Hi all.

  Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..

 So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and less clutch movement.

Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..

 Any ideas?

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sat May 27 11:26:26 2023
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 12:26:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Any Racers need a Spitfire Body and Running Gear?
Message-ID: <FB4B64D8-04E8-444C-BC7B-8EBB7F5C3C53@gmail.com>


Painted  3 months ago.

Complete car with parts car. Two new interiors.

Likely enough parts to recover investment.

Health Issues forces sale.

Located in Southern MN.

Perhaps a great opportunity for right situation. 

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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From sjanzen at me.com  Sat May 27 11:28:36 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 13:28:36 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
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GT6 clutch hydraulics are pretty much self adjusting. The diaphragm pushes the linkage and push rod back into the slave cylinder. Adjusting the length of the push rod, other than a basic setting, will not alter clutch performance. The fluid flows from the master cylinder, and allows the slave cylinder piston to rest wherever the clutch diaphragm returns it to.  
Does pumping the pedal a few times help? If it does, probably the hydraulics/air/bad seals.
 I would certainly try the easy things first. Bleed the clutch hydraulics. If that doesn?t work, try rebuilding the master and slave cylinders. If neither of those do the trick, my guess is the clutch disc is possibly coming apart and hanging up as it gets hot, causing the clutch to grab.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2023, at 11:11 AM, McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi all.
>   Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
>  So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and less clutch movement.
> Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
>  Any ideas?
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From 4msonset at gmail.com  Sat May 27 12:09:38 2023
From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 11:09:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
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Yes, assuming the seals are sound, as suggested, simple bleeding could be the fix.  Water/Air in the system, expanding with heat,  could be taking up some of the pressure required to release the clutch.  (Think brake fade.)

And how old are the seals in the cylinders?  Maybe the general thermal expansion in the cylinders and/or heated fluid and rubber, is just enough to cause some failure of aging seals?

While it?s messy, and it?s been a while for my 4A, after an initial bleed at the slave to just get the system filled with fresh fluid, I used to bleed the master before a final bleed of the slave, by loosening the line ahead of the slave (with the slave nipple closed) as if it were a bleeding nipple.  (loosen, push, hold, tighten, repeat? clean up fluid as it?s a blind bleed into a rag)  Then do a final bleed at the slave nipple.  That always seemed to make it all go faster, relatively effortless.   (I always thought to make some sort of custom bleed screw between the master and slave, but never did.)  

Between owning British cars, doing my own plumbing for decades, and working water gag special fx in the film buiz, I feel like I should get an honorary PhD in general hydraulics, though, I am quite aware, I still only know .002% about them.  Ok, even less.  

?Justin 









> On May 27, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Have you tried bleeding it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 27, 2023, at 11:16 AM, McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Hi all.
>>  Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
>> So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and less clutch movement.
>> Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
>> Any ideas?
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat May 27 13:18:33 2023
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 13:18:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
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?In my never ending quest to overthink things, I?m curious about the symptoms?
Is it losing free-play (engagement at the top of pedal travel) or getting too much (pedal gets lower and lower)? 
Since you say ?first few shifts?, it doesn?t sound to be heat related - can you induce the problem by just pushing the clutch a few times while stationary?
If it?s not as simple as bleeding &/or bad seals I?m thinking of other less obvious scenarios I?ve run into. 
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

> On May 27, 2023, at 9:08 AM, McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi all.
>  Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
> So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and less clutch movement.
> Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
> Any ideas?
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From 4msonset at gmail.com  Sat May 27 14:02:26 2023
From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 13:02:26 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
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And there?s always?.

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> On May 27, 2023, at 12:57 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?In my never ending quest to overthink things, I?m curious about the symptoms?
> Is it losing free-play (engagement at the top of pedal travel) or getting too much (pedal gets lower and lower)? 
> Since you say ?first few shifts?, it doesn?t sound to be heat related - can you induce the problem by just pushing the clutch a few times while stationary?
> If it?s not as simple as bleeding &/or bad seals I?m thinking of other less obvious scenarios I?ve run into. 
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> Albuquerque NM
> 
>> On May 27, 2023, at 9:08 AM, McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Hi all.
>> Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
>> So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and less clutch movement.
>> Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
>> Any ideas?
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat May 27 14:09:59 2023
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 14:09:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
In-Reply-To: <500CEC2F-A423-4EAF-94C8-5ABD35521289@gmail.com>
References: <500CEC2F-A423-4EAF-94C8-5ABD35521289@gmail.com>
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Yep? That was definitely on my list of possibilities.
Seems we (over) think in similar ways Justin.
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

> On May 27, 2023, at 2:02 PM, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?And there?s always?.
> 
> <IMG_0837.gif>
> 
> 
>> On May 27, 2023, at 12:57 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?In my never ending quest to overthink things, I?m curious about the symptoms?
>> Is it losing free-play (engagement at the top of pedal travel) or getting too much (pedal gets lower and lower)? 
>> Since you say ?first few shifts?, it doesn?t sound to be heat related - can you induce the problem by just pushing the clutch a few times while stationary?
>> If it?s not as simple as bleeding &/or bad seals I?m thinking of other less obvious scenarios I?ve run into. 
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>> Albuquerque NM
>> 
>>>> On May 27, 2023, at 9:08 AM, McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Hi all.
>>> Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
>>> So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and less clutch movement.
>>> Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
>>> Any ideas?
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Sat May 27 17:00:18 2023
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer Gmail)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 18:00:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
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References: <1D373921-257E-491B-AECD-87DB99717441@gmail.com>
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I don?t know why the fluid in the clutch master cylinders gets nasty so quickly, but it does. I start my CMC bleeding process by sucking out all the old fluid from the reservoir, wiping it out and filling with fresh fluid. I make sure to use all the first fill in the bleeding process so I know all the older fluid has passed out of the slave cylinder. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2023, at 1:46 PM, J Wagner via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> Yes, assuming the seals are sound, as suggested, simple bleeding could be the fix.  Water/Air in the system, expanding with heat,  could be taking up some of the pressure required to release the clutch.  (Think brake fade.)
> 
> And how old are the seals in the cylinders?  Maybe the general thermal expansion in the cylinders and/or heated fluid and rubber, is just enough to cause some failure of aging seals?
> 
> While it?s messy, and it?s been a while for my 4A, after an initial bleed at the slave to just get the system filled with fresh fluid, I used to bleed the master before a final bleed of the slave, by loosening the line ahead of the slave (with the slave nipple closed) as if it were a bleeding nipple.  (loosen, push, hold, tighten, repeat? clean up fluid as it?s a blind bleed into a rag)  Then do a final bleed at the slave nipple.  That always seemed to make it all go faster, relatively effortless.   (I always thought to make some sort of custom bleed screw between the master and slave, but never did.)  
> 
> Between owning British cars, doing my own plumbing for decades, and working water gag special fx in the film buiz, I feel like I should get an honorary PhD in general hydraulics, though, I am quite aware, I still only know .002% about them.  Ok, even less.  
> 
> ?Justin 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 27, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Have you tried bleeding it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 27, 2023, at 11:16 AM, McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Hi all.
>>> Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
>>> So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and less clutch movement.
>>> Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
>>> Any ideas?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From Dave at microworks.net  Sat May 27 22:20:13 2023
From: Dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 21:20:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Local guy here in AZ selling a TR6 Racecar
Message-ID: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA650A3EC790DF7B@mainserver>

Here is what he said about it.  He is 80 and is reducing his projects. His name is Brian Severin

1969 Triumph TR6. This car has been a full out race car since it was built in 1969. It looks and runs great. I bought it to run in vintage racing, but I've lost interest in traveling to the various vintage races. It includes an extensive set of spares as well as two complete chassis's, extra engine blocks, everything you'd need to keep the race car going plus enough parts to completely restore another street legal TR6.

pictures of the race car and the two rollers. The race cars engine was recently rebuilt by Larry's in Tucson.

call me at (406) 750-4472 if you have questions.

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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun May 28 04:12:27 2023
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sun, 28 May 2023 06:12:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
In-Reply-To: <DFFA3DAC-4C92-4CEA-BB3D-05EE27E656B8@gmail.com>
References: <DFFA3DAC-4C92-4CEA-BB3D-05EE27E656B8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BFA2DC9E-C4B8-49E0-BBF3-8457AA867D55@aol.com>

That nasty black stuff that accumulates in the master cylinder is small bits of the rubber seals that get worn off during operation. The modern fluids are generally less lubrous than those of the time when these systems were designed.
One wise FOT-er put us into Motul 600 as a good high boiling point brake fluid that also has good lubrication qualities.
For clutches we use the Quartermaster Clutch Hydraulic Fluid. It is VERY slippery and dies the trick for clutch systems. Not intended for brakes, however.
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2023, at 7:00 PM, Bob Kramer Gmail <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I don?t know why the fluid in the clutch master cylinders gets nasty so quickly, but it does. I start my CMC bleeding process by sucking out all the old fluid from the reservoir, wiping it out and filling with fresh fluid. I make sure to use all the first fill in the bleeding process so I know all the older fluid has passed out of the slave cylinder. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 27, 2023, at 1:46 PM, J Wagner via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Yes, assuming the seals are sound, as suggested, simple bleeding could be the fix.  Water/Air in the system, expanding with heat,  could be taking up some of the pressure required to release the clutch.  (Think brake fade.)
>> 
>> And how old are the seals in the cylinders?  Maybe the general thermal expansion in the cylinders and/or heated fluid and rubber, is just enough to cause some failure of aging seals?
>> 
>> While it?s messy, and it?s been a while for my 4A, after an initial bleed at the slave to just get the system filled with fresh fluid, I used to bleed the master before a final bleed of the slave, by loosening the line ahead of the slave (with the slave nipple closed) as if it were a bleeding nipple.  (loosen, push, hold, tighten, repeat? clean up fluid as it?s a blind bleed into a rag)  Then do a final bleed at the slave nipple.  That always seemed to make it all go faster, relatively effortless.   (I always thought to make some sort of custom bleed screw between the master and slave, but never did.)  
>> 
>> Between owning British cars, doing my own plumbing for decades, and working water gag special fx in the film buiz, I feel like I should get an honorary PhD in general hydraulics, though, I am quite aware, I still only know .002% about them.  Ok, even less.  
>> 
>> ?Justin 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On May 27, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Have you tried bleeding it?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On May 27, 2023, at 11:16 AM, McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
>>>> So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get less and less clutch movement.
>>>> Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>>> 
>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
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>>> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sun May 28 08:23:52 2023
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 28 May 2023 10:23:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Local guy here in AZ selling a TR6 Racecar
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From Dave at microworks.net  Sun May 28 11:40:42 2023
From: Dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Sun, 28 May 2023 10:40:42 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pixs of the other items available as a package with the TR6
 Racecar
Message-ID: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA650A3EC790DF7E@mainserver>

Not sure why the not all of the pictures came through.  Here are the others again.

He has also commented with... "30K with everything. Less if you don't want the 2 extra chassis's that can be restored."

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From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Sun May 28 21:13:34 2023
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Sun, 28 May 2023 22:13:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Slave cylinder/master cylinder
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 <DFFA3DAC-4C92-4CEA-BB3D-05EE27E656B8@gmail.com>
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Hey friends.
Just wanted to give an update on the clutch thing.
  I took some wise advice and sucked all the black crap out of the master
cyl. then wiped it clean and ran about a cup of fresh fluid through.  I
opened up the slave cyl. and drained out as much as I could. then refilled
and bled everything.
   Seams perfect  now but then it felt perfect before too.
There was no sign of leakage anywhere so the external seals must be fine.
I'm a bit suspicious of the slave cylinder I replaced last fall as it was a
BP Northwest product. Some sort of Asian knockoff.   I guess we will see
what comes to pass.
               Thanks for the replies.
                                   P.J.
Looking forward to seeing you all at the K cup


On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 6:12?PM Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I don?t know why the fluid in the clutch master cylinders gets nasty so
> quickly, but it does. I start my CMC bleeding process by sucking out all
> the old fluid from the reservoir, wiping it out and filling with fresh
> fluid. I make sure to use all the first fill in the bleeding process so I
> know all the older fluid has passed out of the slave cylinder.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 27, 2023, at 1:46 PM, J Wagner via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Yes, assuming the seals are sound, as suggested, simple bleeding could
> be the fix.  Water/Air in the system, expanding with heat,  could be taking
> up some of the pressure required to release the clutch.  (Think brake fade.)
> >
> > And how old are the seals in the cylinders?  Maybe the general thermal
> expansion in the cylinders and/or heated fluid and rubber, is just enough
> to cause some failure of aging seals?
> >
> > While it?s messy, and it?s been a while for my 4A, after an initial
> bleed at the slave to just get the system filled with fresh fluid, I used
> to bleed the master before a final bleed of the slave, by loosening the
> line ahead of the slave (with the slave nipple closed) as if it were a
> bleeding nipple.  (loosen, push, hold, tighten, repeat? clean up fluid as
> it?s a blind bleed into a rag)  Then do a final bleed at the slave nipple.
> That always seemed to make it all go faster, relatively effortless.   (I
> always thought to make some sort of custom bleed screw between the master
> and slave, but never did.)
> >
> > Between owning British cars, doing my own plumbing for decades, and
> working water gag special fx in the film buiz, I feel like I should get an
> honorary PhD in general hydraulics, though, I am quite aware, I still only
> know .002% about them.  Ok, even less.
> >
> > ?Justin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 27, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Have you tried bleeding it?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On May 27, 2023, at 11:16 AM, McKearn McKearn via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> Hi all.
> >>> Got the GT6 out a few days ago and remembered that I was going to fix
> the clutch problem I had last fall before I stored it away   but did'nt ..
> >>> So long story short, I don't know if it's the slave cyl or master
> cylinder but it works fine at first few shifts but as you drive it you get
> less and less clutch movement.
> >>> Seems like if you let it set a while it will work  again..
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> fot at autox.team.net
> >>>
> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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