[Fot] Kastner Cup.

[John H. Hasty]

Henry: One other thing that is important, at least to me, is the Track.  The quality of the track makes a big difference, I would think, especially for those who are facing a long, long tow.  If we are speaking of club type events at southeastern venues, Road Atlanta or VIR far outweigh other venues which are often used by club event organizers such as VDCA & VRG.  These clubs jointly stage an event at VIR in April each year which would suit the bill.  Whether a two day November event at Road Atlanta, as Mike Jackson suggests be given consideration, could be expanded to a three day event, and whether November is too late in the season are questions I can't answer.  Thus Spake Zarathustra. 
 

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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 11:31 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup.

This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event we racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options are the smaller club events, or the big festival events.

Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of event. We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events are as follows:

Festival Events

Typically higher entrance fees.
Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule with a wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibility of incidents, shortening sessions.
Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibility with the packed schedule.
Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general from a wide variety of media.

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Club Events

Typically lower entrance fees.
More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't usually have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted by guys with big checkbooks and limited experience.
Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good exposure from the normal sources.

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I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the biggest draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipated track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is all fine and good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer friends share this general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in general, and very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.

Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefer future Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club events?

While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run at? That would be helpful information as well!

Cheers

Henry Frye


On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:
> I suppose it wouldn’t have to be. However the Mitty is attended very 
> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran 
> at Road Atlanta.
> 
> Ronnie
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Would it have to be at the Mitty?
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot 
>>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back to Road 
>>> Atlanta During the Mitty.
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