From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 09:04:23 2023 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 10:04:23 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate In-Reply-To: <000b01d93538$555d0320$00170960$@gmail.com> References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC16F9@mainserver> <000b01d93538$555d0320$00170960$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I struggle with the Bastuck website and cannot find the racing parts. Bob Kramer On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 12:06 AM Chris Marx via Fot wrote: > Dear Dave, > > > > get a Bastuck flywheel for a Tilton clutch. > > That is the lightest you can get. > > The clutch weights at 2 pounds, and the Flywheel about 5 pounds. > > Your crank will say thank you. > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > > > *Von:* Fot *Im Auftrag von *Dave Riddle via > Fot > *Gesendet:* Montag, 30. Januar 2023 01:45 > *An:* Dave Riddle via Fot > *Betreff:* [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate > > > > Instead of the Borg style does anyone make a Diaphragm style for the TR3? > I?m using an OD gearbox. > > > > [image: MWLOGO-Signature] > > *Dave Riddle* > > Business IT Consulting > > Office: 480-610-8234 > > eMail: dave at microworks.net > > Website: http://www.microworks.net > > [image: Microsoft-Partner-Network] [image: > ace_1_orig] [image: CCCLogo] > [image: cityhosted-authorized-dealer_orig] > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The clutch weights at 2 pounds, and the Flywheel about 5 pounds. Your crank will say thank you. Cheers Chris Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von Dave Riddle via Fot Gesendet: Montag, 30. Januar 2023 01:45 An: Dave Riddle via Fot > Betreff: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate Instead of the Borg style does anyone make a Diaphragm style for the TR3? I?m using an OD gearbox. Dave Riddle Business IT Consulting Office: 480-610-8234 eMail: dave at microworks.net Website: http://www.microworks.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 5068 bytes Desc: not available URL: From walt at hot-tr6.com Wed Feb 1 14:23:08 2023 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 14:23:08 -0700 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?b?S2FzIEtBU1RORVLigJlzIHNheXM6?= In-Reply-To: <565516B5-449C-4620-9820-031EE6BEA31F@seiri.com> References: <43724C4A-6EA8-4890-B2AB-AA8830E2CC23@gmail.com> <565516B5-449C-4620-9820-031EE6BEA31F@seiri.com> Message-ID: <2eaf01d93683$619bb3b0$24d31b10$@hot-tr6.com> I want flames on my scooter. Walter Hollowell -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:49 AM To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas KASTNER?s says: As Carol Smith said ?A real race car driver will race anything available?. I?m planning on the hopped up walker. ;) > On Aug 7, 2020, at 09:28, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Kas says the rest of you racers can retire if you want to, but he says, ?....maybe, just maybe, I will always be a racer?. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walt at hot-tr6.com From chasgee22 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 14:58:03 2023 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 16:58:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Accusump rebuild o-ring set Message-ID: <318589C8-5070-425C-8681-286E0F322884@gmail.com> Hello all, As I go through my new car, I noticed that the oil coming from my Accusump line was really dark and potentially contaminated. Further investigation also showed signs of oil on the air pressure side of the unit. As a result, I?m currently rebuilding it! If you haven?t checked yours in a while, it might be worth looking at it to make sure it is still working properly. Thanks to previous research done by Greg Blake, it was easy for me to get the right size o-rings for the rebuild. Of course, you can?t just buy only two of each size through the catalogue houses and I now have significantly more o-rings than I need. I have enough extra o-rings for 9 complete sets (two o-rings for the piston and two of a different size for the end caps). These fit the 4 1/4 inch diameter, 3 quart Accusumps. I?m pretty sure these will also work for the 2 quart version as well since it is the same diameter, but I don?t have one of those to verify. I?ll sell these extras for $8 per set shipped via snail mail. Let me know if you are interested! Thanks, Chuck Gee From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Wed Feb 1 15:58:16 2023 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 16:58:16 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Accusump rebuild o-ring set In-Reply-To: <318589C8-5070-425C-8681-286E0F322884@gmail.com> References: <318589C8-5070-425C-8681-286E0F322884@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dang Chuck you stole my retirement plan Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 1, 2023, at 16:26, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Hello all, > > As I go through my new car, I noticed that the oil coming from my Accusump line was really dark and potentially contaminated. Further investigation also showed signs of oil on the air pressure side of the unit. As a result, I?m currently rebuilding it! If you haven?t checked yours in a while, it might be worth looking at it to make sure it is still working properly. > > Thanks to previous research done by Greg Blake, it was easy for me to get the right size o-rings for the rebuild. Of course, you can?t just buy only two of each size through the catalogue houses and I now have significantly more o-rings than I need. > > I have enough extra o-rings for 9 complete sets (two o-rings for the piston and two of a different size for the end caps). These fit the 4 1/4 inch diameter, 3 quart Accusumps. I?m pretty sure these will also work for the 2 quart version as well since it is the same diameter, but I don?t have one of those to verify. I?ll sell these extras for $8 per set shipped via snail mail. > > Let me know if you are interested! > > Thanks, > > Chuck Gee > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > From vfracing at aol.com Wed Feb 1 16:15:52 2023 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 23:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?b?S2FzIEtBU1RORVLigJlzIHNheXM6?= In-Reply-To: <2eaf01d93683$619bb3b0$24d31b10$@hot-tr6.com> References: <43724C4A-6EA8-4890-B2AB-AA8830E2CC23@gmail.com> <565516B5-449C-4620-9820-031EE6BEA31F@seiri.com> <2eaf01d93683$619bb3b0$24d31b10$@hot-tr6.com> Message-ID: <556078627.1592084.1675293352287@mail.yahoo.com> You don't stop racing when you get old, you get old when you stop racing..... -----Original Message----- From: Walt Hollowell via Fot To: 'Bob Bownes -Seiri' ; 'Joe Alexander' Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2023 4:39 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas KASTNER?s says: I want flames on my scooter. Walter Hollowell -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:49 AM To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas KASTNER?s says: As Carol Smith said ?A real race car driver will race anything available?. I?m planning on the hopped up walker. ;) > On Aug 7, 2020, at 09:28, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Kas says the rest of you racers can retire if you want to, but he says, ?....maybe, just maybe, I will always be a racer?. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell:? 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walt at hot-tr6.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Of course, you can?t just buy only two of each size through the catalogue houses and I now have significantly more o-rings than I need. >> >> I have enough extra o-rings for 9 complete sets (two o-rings for the piston and two of a different size for the end caps). These fit the 4 1/4 inch diameter, 3 quart Accusumps. I?m pretty sure these will also work for the 2 quart version as well since it is the same diameter, but I don?t have one of those to verify. I?ll sell these extras for $8 per set shipped via snail mail. >> >> Let me know if you are interested! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck Gee >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com >> >> From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 17:22:41 2023 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 18:22:41 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate In-Reply-To: <001c01d93675$21c0fe70$6542fb50$@gmail.com> References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC16F9@mainserver> <000b01d93538$555d0320$00170960$@gmail.com> <001c01d93675$21c0fe70$6542fb50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chris, Ah, under engine tuning. Thanks for the help. Bob Kramer On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 1:41 PM wrote: > > https://shop.bastuck2.de/index.php?&cat=10000&hg=11800&ug=11805&detail=1&lang=en > > > > > > M25TR4R/12 > (CM2201) > > > > > > > > *Von:* Bob Kramer > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2023 17:04 > *An:* tr4racing at googlemail.com > *Cc:* Dave Riddle ; Dave Riddle via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> > *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate > > > > I struggle with the Bastuck website and cannot find the racing parts. > > > Bob Kramer > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 12:06 AM Chris Marx via Fot > wrote: > > Dear Dave, > > > > get a Bastuck flywheel for a Tilton clutch. > > That is the lightest you can get. > > The clutch weights at 2 pounds, and the Flywheel about 5 pounds. > > Your crank will say thank you. > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > > > *Von:* Fot *Im Auftrag von *Dave Riddle via > Fot > *Gesendet:* Montag, 30. Januar 2023 01:45 > *An:* Dave Riddle via Fot > *Betreff:* [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate > > > > Instead of the Borg style does anyone make a Diaphragm style for the TR3? > I?m using an OD gearbox. > > > > [image: MWLOGO-Signature] > > *Dave Riddle* > > Business IT Consulting > > Office: 480-610-8234 > > eMail: dave at microworks.net > > Website: http://www.microworks.net > > [image: Microsoft-Partner-Network] [image: > ace_1_orig] [image: CCCLogo] > [image: cityhosted-authorized-dealer_orig] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hasty) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 02:30:16 +0000 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?b?S2FzIEtBU1RORVLigJlzIHNheXM6?= In-Reply-To: <556078627.1592084.1675293352287@mail.yahoo.com> References: <43724C4A-6EA8-4890-B2AB-AA8830E2CC23@gmail.com> <565516B5-449C-4620-9820-031EE6BEA31F@seiri.com> <2eaf01d93683$619bb3b0$24d31b10$@hot-tr6.com> <556078627.1592084.1675293352287@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Not Yet Phil, I?m certifiably old, but I just got my VDCA Card with the medical good through 12/31/24; so I intend to be around at least that long. From: Fot On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 6:16 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas KASTNER?s says: You don't stop racing when you get old, you get old when you stop racing..... -----Original Message----- From: Walt Hollowell via Fot > To: 'Bob Bownes -Seiri' >; 'Joe Alexander' > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2023 4:39 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas KASTNER?s says: I want flames on my scooter. Walter Hollowell -----Original Message----- From: Fot > On Behalf Of Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:49 AM To: Joe Alexander > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas KASTNER?s says: As Carol Smith said ?A real race car driver will race anything available?. I?m planning on the hopped up walker. ;) > On Aug 7, 2020, at 09:28, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > ?Kas says the rest of you racers can retire if you want to, but he says, ?....maybe, just maybe, I will always be a racer?. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walt at hot-tr6.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Februar 2023 17:04 An: tr4racing at googlemail.com Cc: Dave Riddle >; Dave Riddle via Fot > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate I struggle with the Bastuck website and cannot find the racing parts. Bob Kramer On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 12:06 AM Chris Marx via Fot > wrote: Dear Dave, get a Bastuck flywheel for a Tilton clutch. That is the lightest you can get. The clutch weights at 2 pounds, and the Flywheel about 5 pounds. Your crank will say thank you. Cheers Chris Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von Dave Riddle via Fot Gesendet: Montag, 30. Januar 2023 01:45 An: Dave Riddle via Fot > Betreff: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate Instead of the Borg style does anyone make a Diaphragm style for the TR3? I?m using an OD gearbox. [MWLOGO-Signature] Dave Riddle Business IT Consulting Office: 480-610-8234 eMail: dave at microworks.net Website: http://www.microworks.net [Microsoft-Partner-Network][ace_1_orig][CCCLogo][cityhosted-authorized-dealer_orig] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3456 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 6532 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jlesnowski at aol.com Thu Feb 2 05:38:15 2023 From: jlesnowski at aol.com (jlesnowski) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2023 07:38:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Accusump rebuild o-ring set In-Reply-To: <57C764C8-F75D-4A82-9C00-0BBC017C78E7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1403021843.327159.1675341499923@aol.com> Chuck,Please put me down for two sets.Thanks,Joe lesnowski108 James LongstreetWilliamsburg, VA23185757-810-6541Sent from my Galaxy Tab A -------- Original message --------From: Chuck Gee via Fot Date: 2/1/23 7:46 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Greg Blake Cc: Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Accusump rebuild o-ring set Heck ya!Chuck> On Feb 1, 2023, at 5:58 PM, Greg Blake wrote:> > ?Dang Chuck you stole my retirement plan > > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Feb 1, 2023, at 16:26, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote:>> >> ?Hello all,>> >> As I go through my new car, I noticed that the oil coming from my Accusump line was really dark and potentially contaminated.? Further investigation also showed signs of oil on the air pressure side of the unit.? As a result, I?m currently rebuilding it!? If you haven?t checked yours in a while, it might be worth looking at it to make sure it is still working properly.>> >> Thanks to previous research done by Greg Blake, it was easy for me to get the right size o-rings for the rebuild.? Of course, you can?t just buy only two of each size through the catalogue houses and I now have significantly more o-rings than I need.? >> >> I have enough extra o-rings for 9 complete sets (two o-rings for the piston and two of a different size for the end caps).? These fit the 4 1/4 inch diameter, 3 quart Accusumps.? I?m pretty sure these will also work for the 2 quart version as well since it is the same diameter, but I don?t have one of those to verify.?? I?ll sell these extras for $8 per set shipped via snail mail.>> >> Let me know if you are interested!>> >> Thanks,>> >> Chuck Gee>> _______________________________________________>> fot at autox.team.net>> >> http://www.fot-racing.com>> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com>> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jlesnowski at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 06:16:43 2023 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 08:16:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Accusump rebuild o-ring set In-Reply-To: <318589C8-5070-425C-8681-286E0F322884@gmail.com> References: <318589C8-5070-425C-8681-286E0F322884@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well that was fast. All sets are taken now. Thanks! Chuck > On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:58 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > ?Hello all, > > As I go through my new car, I noticed that the oil coming from my Accusump line was really dark and potentially contaminated. Further investigation also showed signs of oil on the air pressure side of the unit. As a result, I?m currently rebuilding it! If you haven?t checked yours in a while, it might be worth looking at it to make sure it is still working properly. > > Thanks to previous research done by Greg Blake, it was easy for me to get the right size o-rings for the rebuild. Of course, you can?t just buy only two of each size through the catalogue houses and I now have significantly more o-rings than I need. > > I have enough extra o-rings for 9 complete sets (two o-rings for the piston and two of a different size for the end caps). These fit the 4 1/4 inch diameter, 3 quart Accusumps. I?m pretty sure these will also work for the 2 quart version as well since it is the same diameter, but I don?t have one of those to verify. I?ll sell these extras for $8 per set shipped via snail mail. > > Let me know if you are interested! > > Thanks, > > Chuck Gee From mark at bradakis.com Thu Feb 2 10:01:36 2023 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 10:01:36 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR6 intake port spacing? Message-ID: <84e87705-8073-6b1d-06a4-6e16c05da9c3@bradakis.com> I know I have the information somewhere on my computer, but can't seem to find it.? What are the measurements for wide vs. narrow heads? mjb. From goodparts at verizon.net Thu Feb 2 11:55:41 2023 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 18:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR6 intake port spacing? In-Reply-To: <84e87705-8073-6b1d-06a4-6e16c05da9c3@bradakis.com> References: <84e87705-8073-6b1d-06a4-6e16c05da9c3@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1280267953.3363455.1675364141688@mail.yahoo.com> 2-3/16" vs. 1-7/8" Richard GoodGood Parts Inc On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 01:22:56 PM EST, Mark Bradakis via Fot wrote: I know I have the information somewhere on my computer, but can't seem to find it.? What are the measurements for wide vs. narrow heads? mjb. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hasty via Fot wrote: Chris?.did not see a listing for the dog box transmission gear set?do they offer a set for the A type OD?? ? From: Fot On Behalf OfChris Marx via Fot Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 2:41 PM To: 'Bob Kramer' ; tr4racing at googlemail.com Cc: 'Dave Riddle via Fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate ? https://shop.bastuck2.de/index.php?&cat=10000&hg=11800&ug=11805&detail=1&lang=en ? ? M25TR4R/12 (CM2201) ? ? ? Von: Bob Kramer Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2023 17:04 An: tr4racing at googlemail.com Cc: Dave Riddle ; Dave Riddle via Fot Betreff: Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate ? I struggle with the Bastuck website and cannot find the racing parts. Bob Kramer ? ? On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 12:06 AM Chris Marx via Fot wrote: Dear ?Dave, ? get a Bastuck flywheel for a Tilton clutch. That is the lightest you can get. The clutch weights at 2 pounds, and the Flywheel about 5 pounds. Your crank will say thank you. ? Cheers Chris ? ? 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They can supply rings or build to match the ring specs you want. A set of six for the GT6 was $1,115 two years ago. I suspect that?s gone up. Doesn?t help you with specs, but I have had good experience with them - both the pistons and the company to deal with. Lead time in spring 2021 was about seven weeks. Scott Gt6 On Feb 2, 2023, at 2:53 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot wrote: Well the Machine shop that can work on my TR3 engine said they are 4 months out so that certainly gives me time to order Pistons. For Street use and only the occasional Track day I have time to see about ordering from JE or Wisco rather than the flat top pistons from Moss that are manufactured in India (even if they are sent to the UK where they are machined). Does anyone have specs for a piston I could see about getting made or can recommend a set? My Engine does have an Isky Cam (not sure which one based on the Cam Chart that went around the other week). Currently the car does have flat top pistons in 87mm. 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URL: From tony.sheach at live.co.uk Thu Feb 2 15:56:29 2023 From: tony.sheach at live.co.uk (Tony Sheach) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 22:56:29 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Diaphram Pressure Plate In-Reply-To: <35307258.2847095.1675370947552@mail.yahoo.com> References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC16F9@mainserver> <000b01d93538$555d0320$00170960$@gmail.com> <001c01d93675$21c0fe70$6542fb50$@gmail.com> <1663960391.3434764.1675370803461@mail.yahoo.com> <35307258.2847095.1675370947552@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Denis Vessey in the UK supplies an a type equivalent - excellent quality. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 2 Feb 2023, at 22:43, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: ? The Bastuck gear set is J-type only... it has a j-type main shaft and that is not interchangeable with the A-type. So o/d 3rd and 4th only. Unless you can make enough pressure to engage in 2nd, I guess. Regards, Bob Lang On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 10:36:32 PM EST, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: Chris?.did not see a listing for the dog box transmission gear set?do they offer a set for the A type OD?? From: Fot On Behalf Of Chris Marx via Fot Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 2:41 PM To: 'Bob Kramer' ; tr4racing at googlemail.com Cc: 'Dave Riddle via Fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate https://shop.bastuck2.de/index.php?&cat=10000&hg=11800&ug=11805&detail=1&lang=en M25TR4R/12 (CM2201) Von: Bob Kramer > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2023 17:04 An: tr4racing at googlemail.com Cc: Dave Riddle >; Dave Riddle via Fot > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate I struggle with the Bastuck website and cannot find the racing parts. Bob Kramer On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 12:06 AM Chris Marx via Fot > wrote: Dear Dave, get a Bastuck flywheel for a Tilton clutch. That is the lightest you can get. The clutch weights at 2 pounds, and the Flywheel about 5 pounds. Your crank will say thank you. Cheers Chris Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von Dave Riddle via Fot Gesendet: Montag, 30. Januar 2023 01:45 An: Dave Riddle via Fot > Betreff: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate Instead of the Borg style does anyone make a Diaphragm style for the TR3? I?m using an OD gearbox. 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Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 4397 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Feb 2 17:45:43 2023 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 01:45:43 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Diaphram Pressure Plate In-Reply-To: <35307258.2847095.1675370947552@mail.yahoo.com> References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC16F9@mainserver> <000b01d93538$555d0320$00170960$@gmail.com> <001c01d93675$21c0fe70$6542fb50$@gmail.com> <1663960391.3434764.1675370803461@mail.yahoo.com> <35307258.2847095.1675370947552@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005f01d93768$d9144110$8b3cc330$@gmail.com> True, Bastuck has two version: 4-speed ? and 4-speed with J-OD. With a dogbox you don?t need OD in 2nd. OD is just in top gear for me. The dogbox shifts quicker as the OD. Cheers Chris Von: Fot Im Auftrag von Robert Lang via Fot Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2023 21:49 An: fot at autox.team.net; John Hasty Betreff: [Fot] Fw: Diaphram Pressure Plate The Bastuck gear set is J-type only... it has a j-type main shaft and that is not interchangeable with the A-type. So o/d 3rd and 4th only. Unless you can make enough pressure to engage in 2nd, I guess. Regards, Bob Lang On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 10:36:32 PM EST, John H. Hasty via Fot > wrote: Chris?.did not see a listing for the dog box transmission gear set?do they offer a set for the A type OD?? From: Fot > On Behalf Of Chris Marx via Fot Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 2:41 PM To: 'Bob Kramer' >; tr4racing at googlemail.com Cc: 'Dave Riddle via Fot' > Subject: Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate https://shop.bastuck2.de/index.php? &cat=10000&hg=11800&ug=11805&detail=1&lang=en M25TR4R/12 (CM2201) Von: Bob Kramer > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2023 17:04 An: tr4racing at googlemail.com Cc: Dave Riddle >; Dave Riddle via Fot > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate I struggle with the Bastuck website and cannot find the racing parts. Bob Kramer On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 12:06 AM Chris Marx via Fot > wrote: Dear Dave, get a Bastuck flywheel for a Tilton clutch. That is the lightest you can get. The clutch weights at 2 pounds, and the Flywheel about 5 pounds. Your crank will say thank you. Cheers Chris Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von Dave Riddle via Fot Gesendet: Montag, 30. Januar 2023 01:45 An: Dave Riddle via Fot > Betreff: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate Instead of the Borg style does anyone make a Diaphragm style for the TR3? I?m using an OD gearbox. 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Hasty) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 04:12:19 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Diaphram Pressure Plate In-Reply-To: <005f01d93768$d9144110$8b3cc330$@gmail.com> References: <005f01d93768$d9144110$8b3cc330$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <25FA7AF3-52EA-4E2E-899A-D8AA0022B5E3@mhc-law.com> I agree never use OD in 2nd & of course do use in 4th. We run a 4.1 & do use 3rd OD quite often. I find that The Rpm drop from 3rd to 4th is about 6to7 White 3rdOD to 4th is about 4to5. Also on short shuts When I run out of revs it?s easier to use 3rdOD & just push a button to get back to 3rd for the corner. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2023, at 7:45 PM, tr4racing at googlemail.com wrote: ? True, Bastuck has two version: 4-speed ? and 4-speed with J-OD. With a dogbox you don?t need OD in 2nd. OD is just in top gear for me. The dogbox shifts quicker as the OD. Cheers Chris Von: Fot Im Auftrag von Robert Lang via Fot Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2023 21:49 An: fot at autox.team.net; John Hasty Betreff: [Fot] Fw: Diaphram Pressure Plate The Bastuck gear set is J-type only... it has a j-type main shaft and that is not interchangeable with the A-type. So o/d 3rd and 4th only. Unless you can make enough pressure to engage in 2nd, I guess. Regards, Bob Lang On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 10:36:32 PM EST, John H. Hasty via Fot > wrote: Chris?.did not see a listing for the dog box transmission gear set?do they offer a set for the A type OD?? From: Fot > On Behalf Of Chris Marx via Fot Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 2:41 PM To: 'Bob Kramer' >; tr4racing at googlemail.com Cc: 'Dave Riddle via Fot' > Subject: Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate https://shop.bastuck2.de/index.php?&cat=10000&hg=11800&ug=11805&detail=1&lang=en M25TR4R/12 (CM2201) Von: Bob Kramer > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2023 17:04 An: tr4racing at googlemail.com Cc: Dave Riddle >; Dave Riddle via Fot > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate I struggle with the Bastuck website and cannot find the racing parts. Bob Kramer On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 12:06 AM Chris Marx via Fot > wrote: Dear Dave, get a Bastuck flywheel for a Tilton clutch. That is the lightest you can get. The clutch weights at 2 pounds, and the Flywheel about 5 pounds. Your crank will say thank you. Cheers Chris Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von Dave Riddle via Fot Gesendet: Montag, 30. Januar 2023 01:45 An: Dave Riddle via Fot > Betreff: [Fot] Diaphram Pressure Plate Instead of the Borg style does anyone make a Diaphragm style for the TR3? I?m using an OD gearbox. 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URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Fri Feb 3 04:32:23 2023 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2023 06:32:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Pistons In-Reply-To: <15D1E3D9-A66D-4C7C-A682-681E1D0E8219@me.com> References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC1725@mainserver> <15D1E3D9-A66D-4C7C-A682-681E1D0E8219@me.com> Message-ID: Back in the day I tried to educate myself on the rules of the road on this kind of stuff, and my recollection is for any engine that will run on street gas, use a cast piston. If you are going to bump the compression up to the point of needing to run on race gas, use forged pistons. Has something changed? I can't say how many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of County pistons are happily going up and down in engines around the world, they seem to be proved to work fine in engines that are going to run on pump gas. I've used them in a number of rebuilds and know many of us here have done the same. I'm not saying I won't jump on a set of NOS AE pistons when I find them, though! > On Feb 2, 2023, at 2:53 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot > wrote: > > Well the Machine shop that can work on my TR3 engine said they are 4 > months out so that certainly gives me time to order Pistons. For > Street use and only the occasional Track day I have time to see about > ordering from JE or Wisco rather than the flat top pistons from Moss > that are manufactured in India (even if they are sent to the UK where > they are machined). Does anyone have specs for a piston I could see > about getting made or can recommend a set? My Engine does have an > Isky Cam (not sure which one based on the Cam Chart that went around > the other week). > > Currently the car does have flat top pistons in 87mm. Any real > concerns moving up to an 89m? I have heard cooling can be an issue > and the car does have a Wizard Radiator and an Oil Cooler From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Fri Feb 3 05:41:30 2023 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 12:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Pistons In-Reply-To: <11961397-431A-4179-A83E-D5CAEC9526CD@gmail.com> References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC1725@mainserver> <11961397-431A-4179-A83E-D5CAEC9526CD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <127444969.2004854.1675428090028@mail.yahoo.com> Dave,I have a long and unpleasant tale about J&E I attempted to order for my Sprite race engine. After many months they crapped out and I went to Wiseco. The originally said 12 weeks for custom made, coated flat-tops. They then updated it to 6 weeks, and finally delivered the pistons in just 3 weeks! They were also very easy to deal with regarding the specifics of the engine. I have since ordered forged 89mm coated set for my TR3 race car (through BFE), and again they were way faster than they originally claimed. Good looking parts and very good to deal with. As an interesting aside, they seem to have purchased J&E, so maybe they will get better?? Cheers,Jake On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 05:44:11 PM CST, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: My JE order took 15 weeks last year. FYI? Brad EellsSent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot wrote: ? Well the Machine shop that can work on my TR3 engine said they are 4 months out so that certainly gives me time to order Pistons.? For Street use and only the occasional Track day I have time to see about ordering from JE or Wisco rather than the flat top pistons from Moss that are manufactured in India (even if they are sent to the UK where they are machined).? Does anyone have specs for a piston I could see about getting made or can recommend a set?? My Engine does have an Isky Cam (not sure which one based on the Cam Chart that went around the other week). ? Currently the car does have flat top pistons in 87mm.? Any real concerns moving up to an 89m?? I have heard cooling can be an issue and the car does have a Wizard Radiator and an Oil Cooler ? Dave Riddle Business IT Consulting Office: 480-610-8234 eMail: dave at microworks.net Website: http://www.microworks.net ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Feb 3 07:27:01 2023 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 14:27:01 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Pistons In-Reply-To: <127444969.2004854.1675428090028@mail.yahoo.com> References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC1725@mainserver> <11961397-431A-4179-A83E-D5CAEC9526CD@gmail.com> <127444969.2004854.1675428090028@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On the other hand, I was very impressed with how TOUGH the JE pistons were. I had one chew up and spit out a valve head that broke off. A little damage to the cylinder wall, a little damage to the head (which uncle jack repaired for me), and the top of the piston looked like the surface of the moon. Repaired head and cylinder wall, installed a new piston, back in business. I dropped a valve on a stock style piston and it was game over for the whole lower end ? shattered piston, broken rod, big hole in the block. Are ALL the pistons from the aftermarket (JE, Wiseco, etc.) that tough? This isn?t an ad for JE ? I?m legitimately interested in the experience of others here. Scott (B.) From: Fot On Behalf Of Erik Jacobsen via Fot Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 6:42 AM To: Dave Riddle ; Brad Eells Cc: Dave Riddle via Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons Dave, I have a long and unpleasant tale about J&E I attempted to order for my Sprite race engine. After many months they crapped out and I went to Wiseco. The originally said 12 weeks for custom made, coated flat-tops. They then updated it to 6 weeks, and finally delivered the pistons in just 3 weeks! They were also very easy to deal with regarding the specifics of the engine. I have since ordered forged 89mm coated set for my TR3 race car (through BFE), and again they were way faster than they originally claimed. Good looking parts and very good to deal with. As an interesting aside, they seem to have purchased J&E, so maybe they will get better? Cheers, Jake On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 05:44:11 PM CST, Brad Eells via Fot > wrote: My JE order took 15 weeks last year. FYI? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot > wrote: ? Well the Machine shop that can work on my TR3 engine said they are 4 months out so that certainly gives me time to order Pistons. For Street use and only the occasional Track day I have time to see about ordering from JE or Wisco rather than the flat top pistons from Moss that are manufactured in India (even if they are sent to the UK where they are machined). Does anyone have specs for a piston I could see about getting made or can recommend a set? My Engine does have an Isky Cam (not sure which one based on the Cam Chart that went around the other week). Currently the car does have flat top pistons in 87mm. Any real concerns moving up to an 89m? I have heard cooling can be an issue and the car does have a Wizard Radiator and an Oil Cooler Dave Riddle Business IT Consulting Office: 480-610-8234 eMail: dave at microworks.net Website: http://www.microworks.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Fri Feb 3 08:02:02 2023 From: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com (Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 15:02:02 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Pistons In-Reply-To: References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC1725@mainserver> <11961397-431A-4179-A83E-D5CAEC9526CD@gmail.com> <127444969.2004854.1675428090028@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7cba28a74f494e498a8e56151000563a@dieselperformanceparts.com> Forged vs cast is the main difference in the toughness of the JE etc. [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/logo_small_dppi.png] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_facebook.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_twitter.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_googleplus.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_linkedin.jpg] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott via Fot Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 8:27 AM To: FOT at autox.team.net FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons On the other hand, I was very impressed with how TOUGH the JE pistons were. I had one chew up and spit out a valve head that broke off. A little damage to the cylinder wall, a little damage to the head (which uncle jack repaired for me), and the top of the piston looked like the surface of the moon. Repaired head and cylinder wall, installed a new piston, back in business. I dropped a valve on a stock style piston and it was game over for the whole lower end ? shattered piston, broken rod, big hole in the block. Are ALL the pistons from the aftermarket (JE, Wiseco, etc.) that tough? This isn?t an ad for JE ? I?m legitimately interested in the experience of others here. Scott (B.) From: Fot > On Behalf Of Erik Jacobsen via Fot Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 6:42 AM To: Dave Riddle >; Brad Eells > Cc: Dave Riddle via Fot > Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons Dave, I have a long and unpleasant tale about J&E I attempted to order for my Sprite race engine. After many months they crapped out and I went to Wiseco. The originally said 12 weeks for custom made, coated flat-tops. They then updated it to 6 weeks, and finally delivered the pistons in just 3 weeks! They were also very easy to deal with regarding the specifics of the engine. I have since ordered forged 89mm coated set for my TR3 race car (through BFE), and again they were way faster than they originally claimed. Good looking parts and very good to deal with. As an interesting aside, they seem to have purchased J&E, so maybe they will get better? Cheers, Jake On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 05:44:11 PM CST, Brad Eells via Fot > wrote: My JE order took 15 weeks last year. FYI? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot > wrote: ? Well the Machine shop that can work on my TR3 engine said they are 4 months out so that certainly gives me time to order Pistons. For Street use and only the occasional Track day I have time to see about ordering from JE or Wisco rather than the flat top pistons from Moss that are manufactured in India (even if they are sent to the UK where they are machined). Does anyone have specs for a piston I could see about getting made or can recommend a set? My Engine does have an Isky Cam (not sure which one based on the Cam Chart that went around the other week). Currently the car does have flat top pistons in 87mm. Any real concerns moving up to an 89m? I have heard cooling can be an issue and the car does have a Wizard Radiator and an Oil Cooler Dave Riddle Business IT Consulting Office: 480-610-8234 eMail: dave at microworks.net Website: http://www.microworks.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2784 bytes Desc: image005.jpg URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Fri Feb 3 08:02:46 2023 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 15:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Pistons In-Reply-To: <127444969.2004854.1675428090028@mail.yahoo.com> References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC1725@mainserver> <11961397-431A-4179-A83E-D5CAEC9526CD@gmail.com> <127444969.2004854.1675428090028@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1920314515.193033.1675436566964@mail.yahoo.com> It has been over 15 years since I used Wiseco pistons, so I don't know if their composition or specs have changed since then.? I found that they grew more than they should have and were scoring cylinder walls.? Piston to bore clearances were set to their specs, but that turned out to be too tight.? This happened with two sets.? I went to custom made Diamond pistons and have not had scored walls since.? I've heard that lately Diamond wants orders of at least 8 pistons, but I don't have first hand knowledge of that.? For a custom pop-up design, I used body filler on a piston top to make a model and then they computer copied that to make the new pistons.? JoeB On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 08:00:03 AM EST, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: Dave,I have a long and unpleasant tale about J&E I attempted to order for my Sprite race engine. After many months they crapped out and I went to Wiseco. The originally said 12 weeks for custom made, coated flat-tops. They then updated it to 6 weeks, and finally delivered the pistons in just 3 weeks! They were also very easy to deal with regarding the specifics of the engine. I have since ordered forged 89mm coated set for my TR3 race car (through BFE), and again they were way faster than they originally claimed. Good looking parts and very good to deal with. As an interesting aside, they seem to have purchased J&E, so maybe they will get better?? 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Dave H. > On 02/03/2023 4:41 AM Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Feb 3 13:22:36 2023 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 20:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Pistons In-Reply-To: References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC1725@mainserver> <11961397-431A-4179-A83E-D5CAEC9526CD@gmail.com> <127444969.2004854.1675428090028@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <803423086.3944589.1675455756907@mail.yahoo.com> JE has been my go-to for decades, good stuff, never a piston-related issue... Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott via Fot To: FOT at autox.team.net FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Feb 3, 2023 9:27 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons On the other hand, I was very impressed with how TOUGH the JE pistons were.? I had one chew up and spit out a valve head that broke off.? A little damage to the cylinder wall, a little damage to the head (which uncle jack repaired for me), and the top of the piston looked like the surface of the moon.? Repaired head and cylinder wall, installed a new piston, back in business.? I dropped a valve on a stock style piston and it was game over for the whole lower end ? shattered piston, broken rod, big hole in the block. ? Are ALL the pistons from the aftermarket (JE, Wiseco, etc.) that tough?? This isn?t an ad for JE ? I?m legitimately interested in the experience of others here. ? Scott (B.) ? From: Fot On Behalf OfErik Jacobsen via Fot Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 6:42 AM To: Dave Riddle ; Brad Eells Cc: Dave Riddle via Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons ? Dave, I have a long and unpleasant tale about J&E I attempted to order for my Sprite race engine. After many months they crapped out and I went to Wiseco. The originally said 12 weeks for custom made, coated flat-tops. They then updated it to 6 weeks, and finally delivered the pistons in just 3 weeks! They were also very easy to deal with regarding the specifics of the engine. I have since ordered forged 89mm coated set for my TR3 race car (through BFE), and again they were way faster than they originally claimed. Good looking parts and very good to deal with. As an interesting aside, they seem to have purchased J&E, so maybe they will get better?? ? Cheers, Jake ? On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 05:44:11 PM CST, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: ? ? My JE order took 15 weeks last year. FYI? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone ? On Feb 2, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot wrote: ? Well the Machine shop that can work on my TR3 engine said they are 4 months out so that certainly gives me time to order Pistons.? For Street use and only the occasional Track day I have time to see about ordering from JE or Wisco rather than the flat top pistons from Moss that are manufactured in India (even if they are sent to the UK where they are machined).? Does anyone have specs for a piston I could see about getting made or can recommend a set?? My Engine does have an Isky Cam (not sure which one based on the Cam Chart that went around the other week). ? Currently the car does have flat top pistons in 87mm.? Any real concerns moving up to an 89m?? I have heard cooling can be an issue and the car does have a Wizard Radiator and an Oil Cooler ? Dave Riddle Business IT Consulting Office: 480-610-8234 eMail:dave at microworks.net Website:http://www.microworks.net ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archivehttp://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archivehttp://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 3 14:35:14 2023 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 21:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Pistons In-Reply-To: References: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6509C55CAC1725@mainserver> <11961397-431A-4179-A83E-D5CAEC9526CD@gmail.com> <127444969.2004854.1675428090028@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <61141185.29808.1675460114987@mail.yahoo.com> All the race pistons are FORGED, they are super tough. Cast pistons don't have anywhere near the same strength. While everyone is listing success with vendors, I will admit that my JE pistons didn't break when I chucked a rod, I can report that Diamond also makes a fine product. I cannot speak to lead times, the last set I bought was about 5 years ago, but they were super fast delivery at that time. Regarding JE, I thought their customer service was terrible when I tried to clear up a problem that they created by shipping a set with the wrong wrist pin retainers... but that was around 20 years ago. I'm sure thing have improved since then. For some reason I hear sarcastic laughter in the distance... oh well. HI TED! c ya,Bob Lang On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:02:30 AM EST, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: On the other hand, I was very impressed with how TOUGH the JE pistons were.? I had one chew up and spit out a valve head that broke off.? A little damage to the cylinder wall, a little damage to the head (which uncle jack repaired for me), and the top of the piston looked like the surface of the moon.? Repaired head and cylinder wall, installed a new piston, back in business.? I dropped a valve on a stock style piston and it was game over for the whole lower end ? shattered piston, broken rod, big hole in the block. ? Are ALL the pistons from the aftermarket (JE, Wiseco, etc.) that tough?? This isn?t an ad for JE ? I?m legitimately interested in the experience of others here. ? Scott (B.) ? From: Fot On Behalf OfErik Jacobsen via Fot Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 6:42 AM To: Dave Riddle ; Brad Eells Cc: Dave Riddle via Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons ? Dave, I have a long and unpleasant tale about J&E I attempted to order for my Sprite race engine. After many months they crapped out and I went to Wiseco. The originally said 12 weeks for custom made, coated flat-tops. They then updated it to 6 weeks, and finally delivered the pistons in just 3 weeks! They were also very easy to deal with regarding the specifics of the engine. I have since ordered forged 89mm coated set for my TR3 race car (through BFE), and again they were way faster than they originally claimed. Good looking parts and very good to deal with. As an interesting aside, they seem to have purchased J&E, so maybe they will get better?? ? Cheers, Jake ? On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 05:44:11 PM CST, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: ? ? My JE order took 15 weeks last year. FYI? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone ? On Feb 2, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot wrote: ? Well the Machine shop that can work on my TR3 engine said they are 4 months out so that certainly gives me time to order Pistons.? For Street use and only the occasional Track day I have time to see about ordering from JE or Wisco rather than the flat top pistons from Moss that are manufactured in India (even if they are sent to the UK where they are machined).? Does anyone have specs for a piston I could see about getting made or can recommend a set?? My Engine does have an Isky Cam (not sure which one based on the Cam Chart that went around the other week). ? Currently the car does have flat top pistons in 87mm.? Any real concerns moving up to an 89m?? I have heard cooling can be an issue and the car does have a Wizard Radiator and an Oil Cooler ? Dave Riddle Business IT Consulting Office: 480-610-8234 eMail:dave at microworks.net Website:http://www.microworks.net