[Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 105, Issue 83
Will Daehler
will.daehler at gmail.com
Wed May 4 19:00:27 MDT 2022
Jim Hill
I was touring Chris Beebe's Opus Car Museum last weekend with my Madison
British Car Group and I saw a TR4 racer pushed up a wall in a quite an
honorable spot. I asked, it was Jim Hill's.
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> 1. Re: RIP - Don Brick (Robert Lang)
> 2. Re: RIP - Don Brick (Steven Belfer)
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> Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 20:25:40 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com>
> To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>, Mike Jackson
> <grandwazoo at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RIP - Don Brick
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> I saw Don race a few times, fun stuff. He knew how to "wheel" a car.
>
> Regarding the former Harkness car, it was purchased by Rich Bolton and he
> ran it for around 2 years but wound up getting side-tracked with his kids
> racing karts and his 50-foot yawl(!) - when I last checked in NOV 21, the
> Harkness was in a barn in Northern VT waiting for a new owner.
> I'm pretty sure it's still there as well as all the pieces to make it
> whole again.
> c ya (at PVGP),Bob Lang
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 10:44:09 AM EDT, Mike Jackson via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> It is great to? know that his car will continue to be used and run!? So
> many others just disappear.? One of my best friends to this day, John
> Harkness, lived quite close to Mid-O ran a baby? blue TR3 to great
> success.? He eventually sold his and we saw it entered in a race or two and
> then never again.? So sad, that thing flew and we had many great races.?
> This is my 35th year with my TR3.? We can only hope that when its my time
> to retire that someone will get it and love it as does Henry with
> Dentinger's car.
> ?
> Say - does everyone know where the Beady Eye name comes? from?? Bill owned
> a stone masonry contracting company? and did work on many iconic buildings
> in the Milwaukee area.? The name of the company was BDI - Bill Dentinger Inc
> ?
> Mike
> ?
> -----Original Message-----??
> From: yellow04
> Sent: May 4, 2022 8:14 AM
> To:
> Subject: [Fot] RIP - Don Brick
> ?
> Responding to Brian McEldowney, the new owner of the Don Brick TR4,
> prompted me to do a google search. I just realized we lost Don six weeks
> ago on March 27, 2022.
> ?
> The last of the original Beady Eye gang. Sad.
> ?
> While the stories of the shenanigans Bill, Bob and Don got into are the
> stuff of legend, there is one story about Don I will never forget.
> ?
> More years ago that I care to admit, I am beginner racer who bought a
> derelict TR4 racecar and was trying desperately to figure out how to
> prepare it so it would finish weekends, and more importantly trying to
> figure out the art and science of race craft. I show up at Grattan for the
> first time, and I am not sure I can say I was struggling, but the Beady Eye
> boys thought I needed a primer on the track. VSCDA had a practice of doing
> lunch time parade laps at Grattan, so they cooked up the idea that I needed
> to get driven around the track by their resident hot shoe, Don Brick. Yes,
> Don was the fastest of the bunch.
> ?
> These parade laps were done in race cars, and the premise was the racers
> could put their family, friends, crew, etc. in the passenger seat to get a
> birds eye view of the track. No passing, just some leisurely laps.
> Apparently, Don didn?t get the memo... Don and I climb into his TR4, my
> memory is telling me we had no fire suits or helmets, and proceed to the
> false grid. We are waived onto the track, and Don nails it. We get decent
> speed for turn one, and Don is narrating. "This is where I usually have to
> brake, but since we are not at speed yet...", he brakes late, turns into 1
> with tires at full chat. We slide around turn one, and on the little
> straight heading for 2, we come up on the first car doing parade lap speed,
> Don just passes them! At this point, Don is at racing speed, and he
> continues to narrate his way around the course passing everybody. As we
> round the corner for the start/finish straight, the flagger is waiting for
> us, and no surprise to me Don gets black flagged. As w
> e are going down the straight for turn 1, I tell Don I don't think we are
> supposed to be going full tilt, everybody else is going much slower. Don
> was not deterred, he needed to show me his braking point for turn 1 at
> speed! We proceeded to do that second lap way too fast, then Don dutifully
> pulled into pit lane and was directed to the black flag station where he
> was given the stern warning that lunchtime parade laps were not to be
> driven at speed. Don's reply with a smile, "Oh, OK, I didn't know."
> ?
> Anybody else remember running with Don and watching his red wire wheels?
> Don insisted on running that same set of red painted wire wheels. He
> claimed he finally got a set of wheels that didn't break spokes, so he just
> kept running them. It was disconcerting to see Don in the seat sawing on
> the steering wheel, and you could see the hubs on the car moving with his
> motions, but the rim and tires couldn't keep up the hubs, you could almost
> see the spokes stretching with every turn of the steering wheel!
> ?
> Farewell, my friend.
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> From: Steven Belfer <steve at artwithcars.com>
> To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RIP - Don Brick
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> Don was a very nice guy with a room brightening smile! My dad built an
> engine for Don?s 4 as well as ironed out the rear axle hop with some
> special links and bars to the rear axle. The car was pretty unreliable and
> unsafe before the upgrades. My dad, Mike, really enjoyed being with Don,
> Bill, and Bob, and was their de facto crew chief.
>
> Don once gave me a terrible T-shirt that said , It?s better with butter.
> And he took me aside to impart onto me a dairy trade secret that I shall
> pass in to you. Award winning Swiss cheese should have holes no smaller
> than a dime and no bigger than a nickel.
>
> Race in peace, Don
>
> ~Steve Belfer
>
>
> > On May 4, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > I saw Don race a few times, fun stuff. He knew how to "wheel" a car.
> >
> > Regarding the former Harkness car, it was purchased by Rich Bolton and
> he ran it for around 2 years but wound up getting side-tracked with his
> kids racing karts and his 50-foot yawl(!) - when I last checked in NOV 21,
> the Harkness was in a barn in Northern VT waiting for a new owner.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure it's still there as well as all the pieces to make it
> whole again.
> >
> > c ya (at PVGP),
> > Bob Lang
> >
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 10:44:09 AM EDT, Mike Jackson via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It is great to know that his car will continue to be used and run! So
> many others just disappear. One of my best friends to this day, John
> Harkness, lived quite close to Mid-O ran a baby blue TR3 to great
> success. He eventually sold his and we saw it entered in a race or two and
> then never again. So sad, that thing flew and we had many great races.
> This is my 35th year with my TR3. We can only hope that when its my time
> to retire that someone will get it and love it as does Henry with
> Dentinger's car.
> >
> > Say - does everyone know where the Beady Eye name comes from? Bill
> owned a stone masonry contracting company and did work on many iconic
> buildings in the Milwaukee area. The name of the company was BDI - Bill
> Dentinger Inc
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yellow04
> > Sent: May 4, 2022 8:14 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: [Fot] RIP - Don Brick
> >
> > Responding to Brian McEldowney, the new owner of the Don Brick TR4,
> prompted me to do a google search. I just realized we lost Don six weeks
> ago on March 27, 2022.
> >
> > The last of the original Beady Eye gang. Sad.
> >
> > While the stories of the shenanigans Bill, Bob and Don got into are the
> stuff of legend, there is one story about Don I will never forget.
> >
> > More years ago that I care to admit, I am beginner racer who bought a
> derelict TR4 racecar and was trying desperately to figure out how to
> prepare it so it would finish weekends, and more importantly trying to
> figure out the art and science of race craft. I show up at Grattan for the
> first time, and I am not sure I can say I was struggling, but the Beady Eye
> boys thought I needed a primer on the track. VSCDA had a practice of doing
> lunch time parade laps at Grattan, so they cooked up the idea that I needed
> to get driven around the track by their resident hot shoe, Don Brick. Yes,
> Don was the fastest of the bunch.
> >
> > These parade laps were done in race cars, and the premise was the racers
> could put their family, friends, crew, etc. in the passenger seat to get a
> birds eye view of the track. No passing, just some leisurely laps.
> Apparently, Don didn?t get the memo... Don and I climb into his TR4, my
> memory is telling me we had no fire suits or helmets, and proceed to the
> false grid. We are waived onto the track, and Don nails it. We get decent
> speed for turn one, and Don is narrating. "This is where I usually have to
> brake, but since we are not at speed yet...", he brakes late, turns into 1
> with tires at full chat. We slide around turn one, and on the little
> straight heading for 2, we come up on the first car doing parade lap speed,
> Don just passes them! At this point, Don is at racing speed, and he
> continues to narrate his way around the course passing everybody. As we
> round the corner for the start/finish straight, the flagger is waiting for
> us, and no surprise to me Don gets black flagged. As
> we are going down the straight for turn 1, I tell Don I don't think we
> are supposed to be going full tilt, everybody else is going much slower.
> Don was not deterred, he needed to show me his braking point for turn 1 at
> speed! We proceeded to do that second lap way too fast, then Don dutifully
> pulled into pit lane and was directed to the black flag station where he
> was given the stern warning that lunchtime parade laps were not to be
> driven at speed. Don's reply with a smile, "Oh, OK, I didn't know."
> >
> > Anybody else remember running with Don and watching his red wire wheels?
> Don insisted on running that same set of red painted wire wheels. He
> claimed he finally got a set of wheels that didn't break spokes, so he just
> kept running them. It was disconcerting to see Don in the seat sawing on
> the steering wheel, and you could see the hubs on the car moving with his
> motions, but the rim and tires couldn't keep up the hubs, you could almost
> see the spokes stretching with every turn of the steering wheel!
> >
> > Farewell, my friend.
> > _______________________________________________
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> From: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
> To: Mike Jackson <grandwazoo at earthlink.net>, yellow04
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> Subject: Re: [Fot] RIP - Don Brick
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> << did work on many iconic buildings in the Milwaukee area. The name of
> the company was BDI - Bill Dentinger Inc >>
>
>
>
> And also in the Twin Cities where Bill's sons carry on the trade. Bill
> was proud of the work BDI did on the Minnesota World Trade Center (nka
> Wells Fargo Place).
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mike Jackson via Fot
> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 9:42 AM
> To: yellow04 <yellow04 at tr4racer.com>; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RIP - Don Brick
>
>
>
> Sad news but we're all getting older and that crew had a head start.
> Surely they will live on in legend with the endless stories repeated over
> and over.
>
> It's not clear that vintage racing will ever again have characters like
> that.
>
>
>
> It was always such a thrill to be with the Beady Eye guys each year at
> Mid-Ohio. Nearly 20 straight years under the big oak tree in the grass
> paddock.
>
> Truth be told, Don was a much better driver than Bob and Bill. But, with
> those wire wheels and skinny tires he was only going to corner so fast and
> hence not lead often.
>
>
>
> Don worked for a cheese factory and always brought some of the stuff they
> produced for cheese contests. Who ever knew there was such a thing?
>
>
>
> I tried to talk Don out of retiring from racing in his last year of
> competition. Wiz and Bill wanted him to continue as well but he wasnt
> gonna change his mind.
>
>
>
> It is great to know that his car will continue to be used and run! So
> many others just disappear. One of my best friends to this day, John
> Harkness, lived quite close to Mid-O ran a baby blue TR3 to great
> success. He eventually sold his and we saw it entered in a race or two and
> then never again. So sad, that thing flew and we had many great races.
> This is my 35th year with my TR3. We can only hope that when its my time
> to retire that someone will get it and love it as does Henry with
> Dentinger's car.
>
>
>
> Say - does everyone know where the Beady Eye name comes from? Bill owned
> a stone masonry contracting company and did work on many iconic buildings
> in the Milwaukee area. The name of the company was BDI - Bill Dentinger Inc
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: yellow04
>
> Sent: May 4, 2022 8:14 AM
>
> To:
>
> Subject: [Fot] RIP - Don Brick
>
>
>
> Responding to Brian McEldowney, the new owner of the Don Brick TR4,
> prompted me to do a google search. I just realized we lost Don six weeks
> ago on March 27, 2022.
>
>
>
> The last of the original Beady Eye gang. Sad.
>
>
>
> While the stories of the shenanigans Bill, Bob and Don got into are the
> stuff of legend, there is one story about Don I will never forget.
>
>
>
> More years ago that I care to admit, I am beginner racer who bought a
> derelict TR4 racecar and was trying desperately to figure out how to
> prepare it so it would finish weekends, and more importantly trying to
> figure out the art and science of race craft. I show up at Grattan for the
> first time, and I am not sure I can say I was struggling, but the Beady Eye
> boys thought I needed a primer on the track. VSCDA had a practice of doing
> lunch time parade laps at Grattan, so they cooked up the idea that I needed
> to get driven around the track by their resident hot shoe, Don Brick. Yes,
> Don was the fastest of the bunch.
>
>
>
> These parade laps were done in race cars, and the premise was the racers
> could put their family, friends, crew, etc. in the passenger seat to get a
> birds eye view of the track. No passing, just some leisurely laps.
> Apparently, Don didn?t get the memo... Don and I climb into his TR4, my
> memory is telling me we had no fire suits or helmets, and proceed to the
> false grid. We are waived onto the track, and Don nails it. We get decent
> speed for turn one, and Don is narrating. "This is where I usually have to
> brake, but since we are not at speed yet...", he brakes late, turns into 1
> with tires at full chat. We slide around turn one, and on the little
> straight heading for 2, we come up on the first car doing parade lap speed,
> Don just passes them! At this point, Don is at racing speed, and he
> continues to narrate his way around the course passing everybody. As we
> round the corner for the start/finish straight, the flagger is waiting for
> us, and no surprise to me Don gets black flagged. As w
> e are going down the straight for turn 1, I tell Don I don't think we are
> supposed to be going full tilt, everybody else is going much slower. Don
> was not deterred, he needed to show me his braking point for turn 1 at
> speed! We proceeded to do that second lap way too fast, then Don dutifully
> pulled into pit lane and was directed to the black flag station where he
> was given the stern warning that lunchtime parade laps were not to be
> driven at speed. Don's reply with a smile, "Oh, OK, I didn't know."
>
>
>
> Anybody else remember running with Don and watching his red wire wheels?
> Don insisted on running that same set of red painted wire wheels. He
> claimed he finally got a set of wheels that didn't break spokes, so he just
> kept running them. It was disconcerting to see Don in the seat sawing on
> the steering wheel, and you could see the hubs on the car moving with his
> motions, but the rim and tires couldn't keep up the hubs, you could almost
> see the spokes stretching with every turn of the steering wheel!
>
>
>
> Farewell, my friend.
>
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>
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> Subject: [Fot] Transport of frame from the Connecticut to Midwest (IL
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> Hey all,
>
> Many of you know that I've been working on putting my dad's old GT6 racer
> back on track. Well, "working on" is a strong way of putting it. Little
> progress for some time, as I've been really, really distracted by racing
> the Spec Racer Ford since my Spit Racer met its demise.
>
> Dad took the old GT6 Mk I apart to change it over to a rotoflex car from a
> swing axle car. Great idea, but he started with a Mk III frame that I had
> lying around and even though it's really supposed to be pretty similar it's
> just not in some ways.
>
> So Tim Hutchisen's got a good GT6+ frame, which should be a better place
> to start. But it needs to get from Henry's place in Connecticut to my
> place in Wisconsin. Anybody heading in the right direction with room for a
> GT6 frame?
>
> Scott (B.)
>
> Choices, choices...
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