From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Oct  1 07:23:36 2021
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 13:23:36 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Spitfires at the Runoffs
Message-ID: <SJ0PR15MB4552941E225899AF2C3DCFE0E1AB9@SJ0PR15MB4552.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Horrible picture of a good start.   Steve Sargis on the pole in H Prod.  And 4 seconds in front after the first lap.

Scott (B.)
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Oct  1 07:59:44 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 13:59:44 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs
In-Reply-To: <000c01d7b5a3$ab596c20$020c4460$@cox.net>
References: <015a01d7b410$549a8c50$fdcfa4f0$@cox.net>
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Look at the thickness of the walls of the hubs.  The early hubs were thin and as the various rally departments were snapping them off, they beefed up the hubs and at some point went to the coarse thread.....................Cheers, Henry Morrison

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:34 PM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing at aol.com>
Cc: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs


Phil, thanks.

   I removed the wheels today and they are bolt on adapters front and back but fine thread.

     The plot thickens!!

     Hank



Hank Giffin

757-375-1491



From: Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:39 AM
To: Henry Giffin <hankgiffin at cox.net>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs



Hank;

I could be wrong here, but I have an early TR3 axle with the wire wheel hubs integral to the hub (as opposed to the bolt-on adapters). Those hubs appear to have a finer thread than the later bolt-on adapters. The thread change was concurrent with the switch from integral to bolt-on.

Phil

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

?

There is a lot of expertise on FoT and I have a question I expect the knowledgeable ones will be able to help.

     On my early (1956) street TR3 (ex-Mike Jackson) I decided to replace the somewhat rusty wire wheel knockoffs.  I had another set of knockoffs (and hubs) from another TR3 in better shape, but the threads were more coarse and didn?t fit.  So I thought they might have been from another British car, and ordered a new set of knockoffs from Moss.  They too were too coarse.

    Can anyone confirm that the early TR3s had a finer thread on their hubs?

    I would like to keep the car original but may have to swap the hubs to use the nicer knockoffs, or chrome the fine threaded ones.  Or just live with the rust!

    Can anyone confirm the early TR3s had finer knockoff threads or is there another possible explanation?

     Thx, Hank





Hank Giffin

757-375-1491



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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Fri Oct  1 20:41:46 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 19:41:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Sargis wins!
Message-ID: <1591016628.111107.1633142506721@connect.xfinity.com>

SCCA H Production Champion.

Dave H.

https://www.scca.com/articles/2015507-sargis-wins-hp-for-back-to-back-crowns?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday&utm_content=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday+CID_5e1cedcb08c9b3990ce8c73cf7b4c50c&utm_source=CM&utm_term=Sargis%20Wins%20HP%20for%20Back-to-Back%20Crowns
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Oct  2 06:49:51 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 08:49:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Sargis wins!
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References: <1591016628.111107.1633142506721@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <31A63972-B0F0-4567-B23C-908EED8E2450@me.com>

Looks like E production runs Sunday 10:20 AM.  Sam Halkias is in that group with his TR6.

On Oct 1, 2021, at 10:41 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

SCCA H Production Champion.

Dave H.

https://www.scca.com/articles/2015507-sargis-wins-hp-for-back-to-back-crowns?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday&utm_content=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday+CID_5e1cedcb08c9b3990ce8c73cf7b4c50c&utm_source=CM&utm_term=Sargis%20Wins%20HP%20for%20Back-to-Back%20Crowns
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Sat Oct  2 09:14:28 2021
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:14:28 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sargis wins!
In-Reply-To: <31A63972-B0F0-4567-B23C-908EED8E2450@me.com>
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 <31A63972-B0F0-4567-B23C-908EED8E2450@me.com>
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Sadly, I won't get to see that race as I'll be prepping for my race in Spec Racer Ford.  Bad timing.  I usually like to watch that one.

Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233
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Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 8:49:51 AM
To: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <Fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Sargis wins!

Looks like E production runs Sunday 10:20 AM.  Sam Halkias is in that group with his TR6.

On Oct 1, 2021, at 10:41 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

SCCA H Production Champion.

Dave H.

https://www.scca.com/articles/2015507-sargis-wins-hp-for-back-to-back-crowns?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday&utm_content=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday+CID_5e1cedcb08c9b3990ce8c73cf7b4c50c&utm_source=CM&utm_term=Sargis%20Wins%20HP%20for%20Back-to-Back%20Crowns
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From hankgiffin at cox.net  Sun Oct  3 00:03:09 2021
From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 02:03:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB7583B8BB6E679987D97F01A590AB9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <015a01d7b410$549a8c50$fdcfa4f0$@cox.net>
 <090DB230-0619-44A2-A07C-F8A834DDB220@aol.com>
 <000c01d7b5a3$ab596c20$020c4460$@cox.net>
 <SJ0PR04MB7583B8BB6E679987D97F01A590AB9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <000b01d7b81c$58e078a0$0aa169e0$@cox.net>

Henry, thanks.  I believe you have it right.  The early hubs look thinner.  

     I changed the hubs to the heavier ones with the coarse threads with the nicer knockoffs.  

     Thanks again, Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

From: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 10:00 AM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing at aol.com>; Henry Giffin <hankgiffin at cox.net>
Cc: fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs

 

Look at the thickness of the walls of the hubs.  The early hubs were thin and as the various rally departments were snapping them off, they beefed up the hubs and at some point went to the coarse thread.....................Cheers, Henry Morrison

 

  _____  

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:34 PM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing at aol.com <mailto:vfracing at aol.com> >
Cc: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>  <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> >; fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>  <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs 

 

Phil, thanks.

   I removed the wheels today and they are bolt on adapters front and back but fine thread.  

     The plot thickens!!

     Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

From: Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com <mailto:vfracing at aol.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:39 AM
To: Henry Giffin <hankgiffin at cox.net <mailto:hankgiffin at cox.net> >
Cc: fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs

 

Hank;

I could be wrong here, but I have an early TR3 axle with the wire wheel hubs integral to the hub (as opposed to the bolt-on adapters). Those hubs appear to have a finer thread than the later bolt-on adapters. The thread change was concurrent with the switch from integral to bolt-on.

Phil

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

There is a lot of expertise on FoT and I have a question I expect the knowledgeable ones will be able to help.

     On my early (1956) street TR3 (ex-Mike Jackson) I decided to replace the somewhat rusty wire wheel knockoffs.  I had another set of knockoffs (and hubs) from another TR3 in better shape, but the threads were more coarse and didn?t fit.  So I thought they might have been from another British car, and ordered a new set of knockoffs from Moss.  They too were too coarse.

    Can anyone confirm that the early TR3s had a finer thread on their hubs? 

    I would like to keep the car original but may have to swap the hubs to use the nicer knockoffs, or chrome the fine threaded ones.  Or just live with the rust!  

    Can anyone confirm the early TR3s had finer knockoff threads or is there another possible explanation?

     Thx, Hank

     

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

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From rick.parent at att.net  Sun Oct  3 16:56:41 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 22:56:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spit Gearbox
References: <1767347734.1548244.1633301801303.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1767347734.1548244.1633301801303@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings FOTers
I am in need of a dog ring gearbox for a Spit, please let me know what you have. I passed on one a few months ago and of course I need one today. :-(
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Mon Oct  4 15:50:02 2021
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 21:50:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] (no subject)
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Damn fine drive

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 On?Friday, October 1, 2021,?DAVE HOGYE via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

   SCCA H Production Champion.   
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Tue Oct  5 11:15:25 2021
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:15:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR3A
Message-ID: <BN6PR22MB0067FF048B1F6B7B8AA60D3299AF9@BN6PR22MB0067.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Tony Parella (SVRA) contacted me this morning saying that he is restoring a stock '58 TR3A and needs a set of original steel wheels & hubcaps, if anyone has a set they want to move, you can contact Tony @ 214 475 8088 or Tony at svar.com...
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From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  5 23:37:34 2021
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 06:37:34 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Sebring TR4 at Goodwood
Message-ID: <149C5090-A976-4FEC-B8BA-DEA5519B0E1D@btinternet.com>

Dear all,

Just to let you know the Sebring TR4 is racing at Goodwood in the 78th Members Meeting on 17th October.

The race is 12:40 UK time and will be streamed live on YouTube.

Hope you can get to watch.

Kind regards,

Keith

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 08:28:30 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:28:30 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Sebring TR4 at Goodwood
In-Reply-To: <149C5090-A976-4FEC-B8BA-DEA5519B0E1D@btinternet.com>
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Message-ID: <002501d7babe$6fd43610$4f7ca230$@gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

Had since Spa the problem, that the engine won't idle properly. Only on 7
cylinders.

I thought #2 was the devious one but in fact it was #5 in which idle jet a
tiny metal bit blocked the fuel way.

The balance bar confused #2 when #5 is off service.

 

With a little jet reamer I cleaned the jet and all 8 are back on service:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUsBIqcID_3/?utm_medium=copy_link

Tomorrow....off to Dijon to see how TR8 and TR4 will do.

Cheers
Chris


From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 09:26:43 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 10:26:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
Message-ID: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set
of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and
the company says it will work.

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
device.


https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
coating.





Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

*Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
ADVANTAGES:

   - *Restores and Holds Clearances*


Bob Kramer
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 10:04:59 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:04:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>

I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on #4.
With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears to fit.

I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I
suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit
differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may
change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance
may be perfect.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  6 10:50:38 2021
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:50:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D6C17D7-23D9-4FCE-99EB-2A11D7A6525D@yahoo.com>

Bob, I don?t know anything about the coating, but if the pistons were used enough to scuff, how are the ring grooves?  I have good looking used pistons,  but the ring groove are worn and out of spec.  Joe B

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on #4.  With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears to fit.
> 
> I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance may be perfect. 
> 
> Bob Kramer
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 
>> 
>> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>> 
>> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
>> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>> 
>> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>> 
>> Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.
>> 
>> ADVANTAGES:
>> Restores and Holds Clearances
>> 
>> Bob Kramer
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 11:03:31 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:03:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <3D6C17D7-23D9-4FCE-99EB-2A11D7A6525D@yahoo.com>
References: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <3D6C17D7-23D9-4FCE-99EB-2A11D7A6525D@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWvL5mdYW=33BuFD3q1ewxoZC=ipRvX8BpnZ+RcSooXZqg@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,

Can't say I'm lucky when I scuffed pistons but mine are okay.  I had a
radiator bottom hose pop off and saw the steam, but by the time I realized
I should shut it down I had the damage to just the skirts. Three were
scuffed a very minor amount so I saved the set . They've been sitting in a
box for years and only now, with this product would I consider using them.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:50 AM Joe <jaboruch at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Bob, I don?t know anything about the coating, but if the pistons were used
> enough to scuff, how are the ring grooves?  I have good looking used
> pistons,  but the ring groove are worn and out of spec.  Joe B
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on
> #4.  With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears
> to fit.
>
> I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I
> suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit
> differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may
> change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance
> may be perfect.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
>> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
>> and the company says it will work.
>>
>> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
>> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
>> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
>> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
>> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
>> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
>> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
>> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
>> device.
>>
>>
>> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>>
>> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
>> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
>> coating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
>> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
>> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>>
>> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
>> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>>
>> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
>> ADVANTAGES:
>>
>>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>>
>>
>> Bob Kramer
>>
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 13:54:17 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 21:54:17 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002e01d7baeb$f335cff0$d9a16fd0$@gmail.com>

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 14:06:51 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 22:06:51 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>

See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.

 

And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
An: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: AW: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:10:04 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:10:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>

Chris

I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had.
I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but
without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3
pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came
with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:

> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:16:10 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 23:16:10 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
 <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004101d7baf7$632497f0$296dc7d0$@gmail.com>

Hi Bob,

 

the forged Mahle pistons are 100gr lighter than the Wisecos.

On the photos the bigger shaped piston is the Mahle one.

But it is very fragil. The skirt is very thin and to compensate for piston slap the skirt is longer than on the Wisecos.

Price for one Piston was 250?.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

Von: Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Cc: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Chris

 

I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had. I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3 pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?

 

Bob Kramer

 

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com <mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com> > wrote:

See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.

 

And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com>  <tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com> > 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
An: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com <mailto:rkramer56 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> ' <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: AW: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:54:42 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:54:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <004101d7baf7$632497f0$296dc7d0$@gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABFvdWtkZstRDHs3aGtX5-xS=7QDBAbbhSgZC-9cAdhRro8LCQ@mail.gmail.com>

We get the full set of Wisecos plus liners for that number, but 100 grams
is nearly a 1/4 pound!

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 4:16 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
>
>
> the forged Mahle pistons are 100gr lighter than the Wisecos.
>
> On the photos the bigger shaped piston is the Mahle one.
>
> But it is very fragil. The skirt is very thin and to compensate for piston
> slap the skirt is longer than on the Wisecos.
>
> Price for one Piston was 250?.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10
> *An:* tr4racing at googlemail.com
> *Cc:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had.
> I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but
> without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3
> pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came
> with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?
>
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  7 00:15:30 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 08:15:30 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <2023172977.82805.1633574595259@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <000f01d7bb42$bb0c9a80$3125cf80$@gmail.com>

Hi Dave,

 

they don?t have a part number, but can be ordered here:

https://wahl-spezialkolben.de/en/

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net> 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021 04:43
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Betreff: Re: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Hi Chris, 

Thanks for sharing the piston info and photos.  Very good to know.  

Do the Mahle pistons have a part number?  Can they be ordered? 

Just wondering. 

Dave 

On 10/06/2021 1:06 PM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.

 

And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com>  <tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com> > 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
An: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com <mailto:rkramer56 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: AW: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Thu Oct  7 14:23:59 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 06:23:59 +1000
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CA+UW8b2=b347uVAXQP4bX4CoXjZNFVb4MkLkuWdr4bJ7A2GqFA@mail.gmail.com>

i have had numerous sets of pistons coated/recoated for competition use.
typically, my local vendor of such services says he wont add more than
0.002"  so in that case, you are limited with what you can 'recondition"
using that system. It is described as "moly-teflon"

the coatings i've used will not 'fill in" deep scratches etc so the
machined finish on the piston needs to be near-perfect

when used on supercharger rotors, it is <0.001" thick

i have no personal experiences with the brand listed

Terry



On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 6:28 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 14:26:19 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:26:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Another Kastner car
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVazabH3c9=bh4wHrY5G=QWwXBvd9AW-iEBtU7vqrBFyAw@mail.gmail.com>

I never knew that Kas had an F5000 car.

mike h

>From this week's Haggerty newsletter
10 pedigreed open-wheel racers at American Speed Festival 20211971 Lola T192
Cameron Neveu

Ego and racing are inextricably linked?and they don?t honor the divides of
racing series and regulatory bodies, either. Case in point: the Questor
Grand Prix held at Ontario Speedway in California, a shoot-out of sorts
between Formula 1 and Formula 5000 cars of the era. R.W. ?Kas? Kastner?he
of Team Nissan GTP fame?bought this Lola T192 from Chicago-area distributor
Carl Hass, but before he managed to put an engine in the rolling chassis,
Hass was back on the phone. Would Kastner loan Hass the car so that Al
Unser could challenge the F5000 boys in California? On the condition that
Hass supplied and installed the engine (and left it in the car when Unser
was done with the race), Kastner said yes.
Cameron Neveu

Unser didn?t perform very well at Ontario Speedway, but the 1400-pound,
monocoque racer and its Weber-crowned Chevy 305 have earned its current
owner, Mead Korwin, plenty of on-track grins. Leaning back in a folding
camping chair, wearing Columbia boots and a denim short-sleeve shirt,
Korwin pronounces it: ?Remarkably forgiving. It really is. It?s all torque?
It kinda grunts its way out of the corner, you don?t really have to rev it.

?Donohue called this model one of the best natural-handling race cars he
ever drove.?


Copyright Haggerty Newsletter

Author:

Grace Houghton <https://www.hagerty.com/media/author/grace-houghton/>
06 October 2021
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From bownes at seiri.com  Thu Oct  7 16:57:49 2021
From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 18:57:49 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Another Kastner car
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVazabH3c9=bh4wHrY5G=QWwXBvd9AW-iEBtU7vqrBFyAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO0FjVazabH3c9=bh4wHrY5G=QWwXBvd9AW-iEBtU7vqrBFyAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <645C8988-1AD5-419D-9313-C3C4B05AE861@seiri.com>


If only it had a Rover V8!

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 16:27, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I never knew that Kas had an F5000 car.
> 
> mike h
> 
> From this week's Haggerty newsletter
> 10 pedigreed open-wheel racers at American Speed Festival 2021
> 1971 Lola T192
> Cameron Neveu
> Ego and racing are inextricably linked?and they don?t honor the divides of racing series and regulatory bodies, either. Case in point: the Questor Grand Prix held at Ontario Speedway in California, a shoot-out of sorts between Formula 1 and Formula 5000 cars of the era. R.W. ?Kas? Kastner?he of Team Nissan GTP fame?bought this Lola T192 from Chicago-area distributor Carl Hass, but before he managed to put an engine in the rolling chassis, Hass was back on the phone. Would Kastner loan Hass the car so that Al Unser could challenge the F5000 boys in California? On the condition that Hass supplied and installed the engine (and left it in the car when Unser was done with the race), Kastner said yes.
> Cameron Neveu
> Unser didn?t perform very well at Ontario Speedway, but the 1400-pound, monocoque racer and its Weber-crowned Chevy 305 have earned its current owner, Mead Korwin, plenty of on-track grins. Leaning back in a folding camping chair, wearing Columbia boots and a denim short-sleeve shirt, Korwin pronounces it: ?Remarkably forgiving. It really is. It?s all torque? It kinda grunts its way out of the corner, you don?t really have to rev it.
> ?Donohue called this model one of the best natural-handling race cars he ever drove.?
> 
> Copyright Haggerty Newsletter
> Author:
> Grace Houghton
> 06 October 2021
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 17:59:25 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:59:25 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Another Kastner car
In-Reply-To: <645C8988-1AD5-419D-9313-C3C4B05AE861@seiri.com>
References: <645C8988-1AD5-419D-9313-C3C4B05AE861@seiri.com>
Message-ID: <7A0EB52D-62BC-46B3-A70F-FA3D209CE3DF@gmail.com>

Here?s a picture from back when they were running both the Trans Am car and the Lola.  A far cry from how it is done today!



Chuck

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> If only it had a Rover V8!
> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2021, at 16:27, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> I never knew that Kas had an F5000 car.
>> 
>> mike h
>> 
>> From this week's Haggerty newsletter
>> 10 pedigreed open-wheel racers at American Speed Festival 2021
>> 1971 Lola T192
>> Cameron Neveu
>> Ego and racing are inextricably linked?and they don?t honor the divides of racing series and regulatory bodies, either. Case in point: the Questor Grand Prix held at Ontario Speedway in California, a shoot-out of sorts between Formula 1 and Formula 5000 cars of the era. R.W. ?Kas? Kastner?he of Team Nissan GTP fame?bought this Lola T192 from Chicago-area distributor Carl Hass, but before he managed to put an engine in the rolling chassis, Hass was back on the phone. Would Kastner loan Hass the car so that Al Unser could challenge the F5000 boys in California? On the condition that Hass supplied and installed the engine (and left it in the car when Unser was done with the race), Kastner said yes.
>> Cameron Neveu
>> Unser didn?t perform very well at Ontario Speedway, but the 1400-pound, monocoque racer and its Weber-crowned Chevy 305 have earned its current owner, Mead Korwin, plenty of on-track grins. Leaning back in a folding camping chair, wearing Columbia boots and a denim short-sleeve shirt, Korwin pronounces it: ?Remarkably forgiving. It really is. It?s all torque? It kinda grunts its way out of the corner, you don?t really have to rev it.
>> ?Donohue called this model one of the best natural-handling race cars he ever drove.?
>> 
>> Copyright Haggerty Newsletter
>> Author:
>> Grace Houghton
>> 06 October 2021
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
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From rick.parent at att.net  Sat Oct  9 11:48:33 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 17:48:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Syncro's
References: <1422018240.1380873.1633801713057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1422018240.1380873.1633801713057@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings to all in Triumph land.
I have one set of sample Sycro's for the GT6 and Spit transmissions now, they will not fit the early non syncro first gear Spit box. I need a racer to test them in the next 2 weeks, this offer is for Racers only and not street car owners. To qualify you must be a long time Spit racer and mechanic so I can get some experienced feedback. The cash outlay is significant so I can not have a fail on the feedback. Once these have been properly tested I will make an order and will sell them to anyone who has an interest. The big Triumph syncro's will be next up, stay tuned.
I need an NOS complete slider assembly (1-2nd or 3-4th), (any) gear and syncro for the TR4-6 to build tooling for the forged steel, heat treated with a carbon friction surface big Triumph syncro's. Does anyone have these parts and be will to part with them? Thanks.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 11 07:10:26 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 13:10:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.

PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)<https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>


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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 11 08:53:35 2021
From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>

 unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed
    On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.? Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.?
PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)


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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 11 09:00:02 2021
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:00:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
 <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1692455237.800487.1633964402393@mail.yahoo.com>

I?ve been thinking that maybe the Apple AirTags might be a great way to track race car and trailer as a theft recovery device; might stick one on the frame somewhere:
Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves?

  
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Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves
 
By Barry Collins
 
Could an Apple AirTag help you track down a lost or stolen car? Read the results of this week-long road test
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Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Monday, October 11, 2021, 10:53 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed
    On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.? Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.?
PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)


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From paulricco at att.net  Mon Oct 11 09:10:17 2021
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 10:10:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
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If they are really determined they can steal anything. However, there are things that make them move on to someone else?s stuff that is an easier target. This is the only tongue lock we will use. It is called The Vault. Made in the us. Very heavy gauge steal. Lock aimed down so it is hard to work. Designed to be hard to pry. Expensive in the world of locks. But a very good deterrent. 

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 9:54 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed
> 
> On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes. 
> 
> PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)
> 
> 
> Marty
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Mon Oct 11 09:13:05 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:13:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FW: Billy Currington - Good Directions and Turnip Greens -
 YouTube TR4A
Message-ID: <e98f5a987ad79ff51e64b03749a7ab23748c1b21@webmail>

One of my favorite songs found this recently ....

	-----------------------------------------From: "Tom Householder" 

To: "Tom Householder"
Cc: 
Sent: Monday October 11 2021 10:56:47AM
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From dolan.char at gmail.com  Mon Oct 11 09:13:18 2021
From: dolan.char at gmail.com (Charlie Dolan)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:13:18 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <1692455237.800487.1633964402393@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
 <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1692455237.800487.1633964402393@mail.yahoo.com>
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Airtags are great but limited in their utility. You?ll need to act very quickly to get your vehicle back before the tracker is disabled by the thief.

They have ?anti-stalking? features built into them which make it very easy for the perpetrator to identify that an AirTag is on the vehicle and disable it.

What to do if you find an AirTag or get an alert that an AirTag is with you - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212227>

Apple AirTag has built-in anti-stalking tech | Popular Science (popsci.com)<https://www.popsci.com/story/technology/apple-airtag-anti-stalking-privacy-tech/>

Charlie

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, October 11, 2021 at 11:00 AM
To: ralph hansen <quikrx at yahoo.com>, FOT <fot at autox.team.net>, marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
I?ve been thinking that maybe the Apple AirTags might be a great way to track race car and trailer as a theft recovery device; might stick one on the frame somewhere:

Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves<https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2021/05/15/apple-airtag-a-brilliant-car-tracker-as-this-road-test-proves/amp/>


[cid:image002.png at 01D7BE90.FDA44BD0]

[X]
Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves

By Barry Collins

Could an Apple AirTag help you track down a lost or stolen car? Read the results of this week-long road test


Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>

On Monday, October 11, 2021, 10:53 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed

On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.

PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)<https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>


Marty
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Mon Oct 11 09:18:24 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:18:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FW: Billy Currington - Good Directions and Turnip Greens -
 YouTube
Message-ID: <8e7837137fcb1af12306cfa04085c6e1eba85602@webmail>



	-----------------------------------------From: "Tom Householder" 

To: "Tom Householder"
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Sent: Monday October 11 2021 10:56:47AM
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Mon Oct 11 09:18:31 2021
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:18:31 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <14D6F5D4-61A6-4AE5-8528-84FF44A6D5AD@att.net>
References: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
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Painting your name / ID of some sort on the roof helps authorities find your stuff from the air and LoJack or similar is also useful .


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? If they are really determined they can steal anything. However, there are things that make them move on to someone else?s stuff that is an easier target. This is the only tongue lock we will use. It is called The Vault. Made in the us. Very heavy gauge steal. Lock aimed down so it is hard to work. Designed to be hard to pry. Expensive in the world of locks. But a very good deterrent.

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2021, at 9:54 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed

On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.

PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)<https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>


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From levibud at icloud.com  Mon Oct 11 09:39:34 2021
From: levibud at icloud.com (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 09:39:34 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <56B014A0-80BC-4FA2-B7E4-B3B8B1E4EF5A@icloud.com>

I have a portable hidden GPS device that I?ve used in my trailer, my RV, and for one layer of security driving the TR6 to VTR and back this year. I slept a lot better knowing that the GPS would help find it if the TR6 got scooped up and hauled off. Finding it is important if the prevention devices don?t work. 

I?m also going to have a big #3 painted on the top of my trailer so the police might see it from above and the thieves probably won?t figure out it?s there. Fun to at least THINK it might actually work to recover it.

Bud




> On Oct 11, 2021, at 7:10 AM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes. 
> 
> PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com) <https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>
> 
> 
> Marty
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Mon Oct 11 09:42:35 2021
From: kknight at klaenv.com (kknight at klaenv.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 08:42:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Tracker
Message-ID: <001101d7beb6$9da41320$d8ec3960$@klaenv.com>

A company that has supported VARA is www.geoskyalert.com
<http://www.geoskyalert.com>   and Ron sells tracking devices for trailers.


 

A great lock, like the Altorlock or similar, where you store and keeping an
eye on the beast is as good as it gets.  Those that steal have always, and
will always, be with us. 

 

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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon Oct 11 13:52:14 2021
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 12:52:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
Message-ID: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI <https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI>

John Linney
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Mon Oct 11 16:08:33 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:08:33 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR03MB4551487563B7675C4D56AF80E6B59@BYAPR03MB4551.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Curious as to the camera brand/type on Bill Babcock's #222 car.  anyone?

________________________________
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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:52 PM
To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com>
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI

John Linney
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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon Oct 11 16:20:23 2021
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:20:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR03MB4551487563B7675C4D56AF80E6B59@BYAPR03MB4551.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
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Message-ID: <4002E18E-AD8B-47FC-895A-950C8871543A@linneyweb.com>

It?s an Insta 360 ONE R, 360 degree camera. The quality isn?t great, but the versatility of being able to point it anywhere after the event is priceless.

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:08 PM, LEE FOLLANSBEE <65356sc at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Curious as to the camera brand/type on Bill Babcock's #222 car.  anyone?
> 
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:52 PM
> To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Cc: Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com>
> Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
>  
> 
> I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and
>  SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.
> 
> In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy
>  of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.
> 
> 
> https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI <https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI>
> 
> 
> John Linney
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Mon Oct 11 16:27:34 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:27:34 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <4002E18E-AD8B-47FC-895A-950C8871543A@linneyweb.com>
References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
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 <4002E18E-AD8B-47FC-895A-950C8871543A@linneyweb.com>
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very cool.  quality looks good in the video.

________________________________
From: John Linney <john at linneyweb.com>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:20 PM
To: LEE FOLLANSBEE <65356sc at msn.com>
Cc: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>; Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video

It?s an Insta 360 ONE R, 360 degree camera. The quality isn?t great, but the versatility of being able to point it anywhere after the event is priceless.

On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:08 PM, LEE FOLLANSBEE <65356sc at msn.com<mailto:65356sc at msn.com>> wrote:

Curious as to the camera brand/type on Bill Babcock's #222 car.  anyone?

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:52 PM
To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Cc: Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com<mailto:ben at svra.com>>
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
https://classicmotorfilms.com<https://classicmotorfilms.com/>

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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Oct 11 19:54:43 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:54:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
Message-ID: <DC8EDA6D-3A34-4B7F-AC33-CF3A44EFB5DD@ponostyle.com>

Hi John, may we share the link to this video on social media and our own websites. 
Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 12:52 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.
> 
> In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.
> 
> https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI <https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI>
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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon Oct 11 19:58:51 2021
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:58:51 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <DC8EDA6D-3A34-4B7F-AC33-CF3A44EFB5DD@ponostyle.com>
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Please do Bill. The more the merrier. Also feel free to embed it. 

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi John, may we share the link to this video on social media and our own websites. 
> Bill Babcock
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>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 12:52 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.
>> 
>> In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI
>> 
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Oct 12 10:08:18 2021
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 12:08:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
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Enjoyed that, thanks, terrific editing telling the story.

 

Paul

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Linney via
Fot
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:52 PM
To: Fot
Cc: Ben Cissell
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video

 


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been
possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and
SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and
Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

 

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a
lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.





https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI





John Linney

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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 12 14:20:33 2021
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (JOHN DAVIES)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 21:20:33 +0100 (BST)
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Wow, great race, great video!? Would that I'd been there!
Next year, in America!

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 14:52:19 2021
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Kas? Candy Box Vitesse will be running the Kastner Cup. 

Joe Alexander
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> On Oct 12, 2021, at 3:31 PM, JOHN DAVIES via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> ?Wow, great race, great video!  Would that I'd been there! 
> Next year, in America!
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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 15:10:00 2021
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:10:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 239
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Yes. Yes it will be at the Kastner Cup in 2022.

It will also be racing this fall at the VRG Turkey Bowl.
[image: PXL_20211012_175808788.jpg]

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:56 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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> Kas? Candy Box Vitesse will be running the Kastner Cup.
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From timmmurphh at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 15:19:42 2021
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Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Octoberfest
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Anybody else going to Blackhawk this weekend. Ryan and I will be there with
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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue Oct 12 15:26:03 2021
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cool. Who owns it now?  I?ll be at the Turkey Bowl.

On Oct 12, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Yes. Yes it will be at the Kastner Cup in 2022. 

It will also be racing this fall at the VRG Turkey Bowl. 
<PXL_20211012_175808788.jpg>

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:56 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Kas? Candy Box Vitesse will be running the Kastner Cup. 

Joe Alexander
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Oct 13 21:16:17 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 22:16:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Octoberfest
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Yes! 
Friendly Ghost Racing is in the final stages of preparation. (For the race at Blackhawk Farms this weekend. We will be there. See candid shop photo for said planned endeavor. 
Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 00:19:09 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 23:19:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
Message-ID: <791FBC4A-0A7E-4F2C-9787-160367544D3A@ponostyle.com>

I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 

I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 



Bill Babcock
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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 15 03:15:21 2021
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (john.r.davies at btinternet.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 10:15:21 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 243
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For Bill Babcock,
Bill I watched this year's Kastner Cup on video, from 6000 miles away, and
enjoyed in particular Peyote, for it's highly modified appearance as well as
it and tour performance!

The car is well known in the US, but not here in the UK.   I, for one, would
love to know more about it, and its many mods.   Has a description ben
published anywhere?   If not, would you write one, please?

Best wishes,
John Davies
(Much modified, but nothing like Peyote, Vitesse SofS)

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From walje at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 15 08:42:10 2021
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:42:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
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Congratulations Bill, well deserved. 


Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done. The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at COTA

Look forward to seeing 001 on the track

Regards

Dennis WALJE
68 GT6 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
> 
> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
> 
> <IMG_5752.jpg>
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From emanteno at comcast.net  Fri Oct 15 08:54:01 2021
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:54:01 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <2C0D28A2-5DEF-458D-AEE6-A2EFF9557278@sbcglobal.net>
References: <791FBC4A-0A7E-4F2C-9787-160367544D3A@ponostyle.com>
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On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 9:47 AM DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Congratulations Bill, well deserved.
>
>
> Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor
> Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done.
> The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at
> COTA
>
> The same Ambro was at Edmond, OK for the Vintage Triumph Register National
Convention last month. Beautiful car. I can't remember the
owner/driver's name but he has extensive racing plans for the car and he
lives in Texas, so COTA is a very real possibility.

Irv Korey
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 08:57:37 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:57:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <2C0D28A2-5DEF-458D-AEE6-A2EFF9557278@sbcglobal.net>
References: <2C0D28A2-5DEF-458D-AEE6-A2EFF9557278@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <614C2B4D-0DE8-4755-8A7C-EF89C453207F@gmail.com>

It may beat COTA.

It also may be at the next KastnerCup.

Potentially, there could be FOUR AMBROS at the next Kastner Cup.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:47 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Congratulations Bill, well deserved. 
> 
> 
> Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done. The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at COTA
> 
> Look forward to seeing 001 on the track
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dennis WALJE
> 68 GT6 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>> 
>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Babcock
>> Beach Bum
>> bill at ponostyle.com
>> https://www.Ponostyle.com
>> 
>> <IMG_5752.jpg>
>> 
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 11:02:56 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 10:02:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <614C2B4D-0DE8-4755-8A7C-EF89C453207F@gmail.com>
References: <2C0D28A2-5DEF-458D-AEE6-A2EFF9557278@sbcglobal.net>
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Wow, that?s a really tall roll bar hoop, is he perhaps not wanting to damage his hat in a rollover?? And pipe insulation for the padding, after all that beautiful work? Gorgeous car, makes me want to get busy-er on mine. 

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may beat COTA.
> 
> It also may be at the next KastnerCup.
> 
> Potentially, there could be FOUR AMBROS at the next Kastner Cup.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:47 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Congratulations Bill, well deserved. 
>> 
>> 
>> Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done. The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at COTA
>> 
>> Look forward to seeing 001 on the track
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Dennis WALJE
>> 68 GT6 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>>> 
>>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill Babcock
>>> Beach Bum
>>> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com>
>>> https://www.Ponostyle.com
>>> 
>>> <IMG_5752.jpg>
>>> 
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From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Oct 15 16:27:53 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 17:27:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
Message-ID: <804926D0-1C3D-4E75-8F9B-6034BB45EFA0@multivintage.com>

The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.

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Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars

Sent from my iPhone

From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 16:47:45 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 15:47:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
In-Reply-To: <804926D0-1C3D-4E75-8F9B-6034BB45EFA0@multivintage.com>
References: <804926D0-1C3D-4E75-8F9B-6034BB45EFA0@multivintage.com>
Message-ID: <42ED697C-3B99-4572-A6AA-76CD6C1A568F@gmail.com>

Where?s the bag of Culver?s?

Chuck

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.
> 
> <image.jpg>
> 
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
> 
> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
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From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Oct 15 17:03:56 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:03:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
In-Reply-To: <42ED697C-3B99-4572-A6AA-76CD6C1A568F@gmail.com>
References: <42ED697C-3B99-4572-A6AA-76CD6C1A568F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1877A5CC-2064-44D4-8B5B-9E4C8F8E863F@multivintage.com>

We are way to sophisticated for Culver?s .
Fall race weekends in Wisconsin are not limited to. 
Smoked fish
Slow cooked bratwurst 
Wine and cheese
Beer

Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969Triumph GT6+ tacecars

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 5:47 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?Where?s the bag of Culver?s?
> 
> Chuck
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.
>> 
>> <image.jpg>
>> 
>> Jason Ostrowski 
>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
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>> 

From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 17:44:55 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 16:44:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
In-Reply-To: <1877A5CC-2064-44D4-8B5B-9E4C8F8E863F@multivintage.com>
References: <1877A5CC-2064-44D4-8B5B-9E4C8F8E863F@multivintage.com>
Message-ID: <5C801734-A6AE-43EB-B458-CCEF898CF778@gmail.com>

Sounds awesome!

Thanks,

Chuck

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com> wrote:
> 
> ?We are way to sophisticated for Culver?s .
> Fall race weekends in Wisconsin are not limited to. 
> Smoked fish
> Slow cooked bratwurst 
> Wine and cheese
> Beer
> 
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969Triumph GT6+ tacecars
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 5:47 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Where?s the bag of Culver?s?
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.
>>> 
>>> <image.jpg>
>>> 
>>> Jason Ostrowski 
>>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>> 
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 15 19:00:11 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 01:00:11 +0000
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB451455FCA15CFBB92CF16FD9BABA9@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?  Dang that looks fun.

Marty
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 19:27:42 2021
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 21:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR02MB451455FCA15CFBB92CF16FD9BABA9@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
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Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?  Dang that looks fun.
> 
> Marty
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 15 19:34:15 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 01:34:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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750 miles from my driveway. Triumphs would look really nice on that track. ?

Marty

________________________________
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Subject: Re: [Fot] New Racetrack

Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?  Dang that looks fun.

Marty
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From david.c.cutter at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 22:46:49 2021
From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 07:46:49 +0300
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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Added it to the vintage racing map!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1vwMVKme7CP38Lw-1MOhdHtvpBMTSCdL-&usp=sharing

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:37 AM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> 750 miles from my driveway. Triumphs would look really nice on that track.
> ?
>
> Marty
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 15, 2021 9:27 PM
> *To:* marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] New Racetrack
>
> Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?
> Dang that looks fun.
>
> Marty
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From rpierce141 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 07:11:22 2021
From: rpierce141 at gmail.com (Rod Pierce)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:11:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Camber Limiter
Message-ID: <CAELLCgfFzmeQEJd=mSN0K3W4_O+jtSEngvqtGodBYsRL+npORA@mail.gmail.com>

I acquired this awhile ago and I am looking for images/diagrams and advice
on how to install it.  The car already has the cutouts so I just need info
on the best way to connect it.

Thanks
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From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 16 07:14:02 2021
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 13:14:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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 Looks like a fun place for a long vacation.

    On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 12:47:45 AM EDT, David Cutter via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Added it to the vintage racing map!
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1vwMVKme7CP38Lw-1MOhdHtvpBMTSCdL-&usp=sharing

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:37 AM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

750 miles from my driveway. Triumphs would look really nice on that track. ?
Marty
From: Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com>
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To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] New Racetrack?Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!

Brad EellsSent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?Anybody seen the track layout for the new?Ozarks International Raceway?? Dang that looks fun.
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 08:15:38 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 07:15:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <424676818.58044.1634324630167@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <791FBC4A-0A7E-4F2C-9787-160367544D3A@ponostyle.com>
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Thanks so much Curt, I?m reworking the office at my shop to better display memorabilia which I have scattered between home, shop, random boxes, and junk drawers. This plaque was the inspiration for that effort. It was an extraordinarily special event for me, the capstone of my time driving Peyote, and an excellent celebration of Kas, who was one of my heroes.

I have a huge amount of historical data and technical information about Peyote that I plan to pull together in useful form for its current owner. It has an amazing history as one might expect in a car that has competed with unexpected success over a 62-year period. I?ll share a synopsis with our group of the technical information that made a car that is essentially a not-particularly-light, not very powerful, rebodied TR3 so competitive over such a long period. 

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Curt Johnston <curt.johnston at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill, 
> 
> I just thought we should do something for you to recognize your career and sportsmanship.  So I created this new category of award that we will use going forward.  Our sport isn't all about winning, its how you compete as well.  Thanks!
> 
> Curt Johnston
>> On 10/14/2021 11:19 PM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>> 
>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Babcock
>> Beach Bum 
>> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com> 
>> https://www.Ponostyle.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 17:06:40 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 16:06:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
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Well deserved Bill!

Chuck

> On Oct 16, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Bill Babcock via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks so much Curt, I?m reworking the office at my shop to better display memorabilia which I have scattered between home, shop, random boxes, and junk drawers. This plaque was the inspiration for that effort. It was an extraordinarily special event for me, the capstone of my time driving Peyote, and an excellent celebration of Kas, who was one of my heroes.
> 
> I have a huge amount of historical data and technical information about Peyote that I plan to pull together in useful form for its current owner. It has an amazing history as one might expect in a car that has competed with unexpected success over a 62-year period. I?ll share a synopsis with our group of the technical information that made a car that is essentially a not-particularly-light, not very powerful, rebodied TR3 so competitive over such a long period. 
> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Curt Johnston <curt.johnston at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill, 
>>> 
>>> I just thought we should do something for you to recognize your career and sportsmanship.  So I created this new category of award that we will use going forward.  Our sport isn't all about winning, its how you compete as well.  Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Curt Johnston
>>> On 10/14/2021 11:19 PM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>>> 
>>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill Babcock
>>> Beach Bum 
>>> bill at ponostyle.com 
>>> https://www.Ponostyle.com 
>>> 
>>> <IMG_5752.jpg>
>>> 
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Oct 20 02:36:31 2021
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 10:36:31 +0200
Subject: [Fot] AE Hepolite "Powermax" pistons
Message-ID: <000601d7c58d$955ed640$c01c82c0$@camoletti.ch>

Amici, does anyone remember the then famous AE Hepolite "Powermax" pistons ?

They were I believe the ones to have for competition use in the 60s/70s.

I have some and consider using them at some point. 

I have 4 in 87mm STD size, and 4 in 87mm+.030'' (but cut just under the pin
hole to lighten them).

Part numbers engraved on the crown (and casted inside) are 18510 or 18510A.

They weigh around 470 grams each (naked, no rings or pins).

It seems those Powermax pistons had a special die casting process, to bring
them close to the forged pistons in terms of resistance (not sure about
this, as it may have been introduced during the production life).

Is it a good idea to use those (maybe with a coating) vs modern pistons ?

Thank your for your comments !

With kind regards

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From Dave at microworks.net  Thu Oct 21 16:56:55 2021
From: Dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 15:56:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Greetings all
Message-ID: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6507369C27E5B8@mainserver>

I first joined FOT back in July of 2002 but missed the announcement earlier this year about confirming you still wanted to remain on the list so I got purged.  Henry just added me back.

I have Bob Schaller's old car that I bought from his widow in July of 1996 after Bob died the previous month. Had a Car fire with it in 2004 andonly got it running again this past July.  Not going to "race" the car anymore but it will do a few Track Days every year (I instruct most weekends from Oct to May).  Had it up at Triumphest this past weekend. Lyman pulled the Baja TR3 from the Petersen last week and we parked together for the Funcours.

Lyman has asked me to drive the Baja TR3 in the Kastner this next year so the Car is being switched from its off Road config to a Road Race setup

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From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 22 05:55:37 2021
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 12:55:37 +0100
Subject: [Fot] A beautiful battle | 2021 Ronnie Hoare Trophy full race |
 78th Members' Meeting - YouTube
Message-ID: <D8DC705D-5DD2-4630-9006-FF1998403252@btinternet.com>

Dear all,

The full race (Ronnie Hoare Trophy) that saw the Sebring TR4 running high up?

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ksTpGFNEk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ksTpGFNEk>

Enjoy.

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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 25 12:42:25 2021
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 18:42:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Email Address for Greg Solow
References: <1107271637.859709.1635187345166.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Does anyone have a current email address for Greg Solow at The Engine Room in California?? I know he used to be on the FOT list, but not sure if he still is or not.? Thanks.
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 25 12:59:48 2021
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 18:59:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Email Address Request
References: <1134040650.865110.1635188388022.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I got some quick responses to my request for Greg Solow's email address.? Thanks.
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 25 13:08:17 2021
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:08:17 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Email Address for Greg Solow
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On 10/25/21 11:42 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote:
> Does anyone have a current email address for Greg Solow at The Engine 
> Room in California?? I know he used to be on the FOT list, but not 
> sure if he still is or not.? Thanks.

Greg Solow <gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com>

TeriAnn

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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 29 06:55:30 2021
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:55:30 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Brooklands windscreen repro to sell
Message-ID: <77fb4dd3-0011-7ae4-6e0b-11fda3b34e7a@earthlink.net>

I have a never mounted Brooklands windscreen reproduction to sell.? Just like what you could buy from Moss but mine has been "attic aged".
Blow off the dust, Windex the glass and it's ready to mount.? You can have mine for $50 plus the $25 that both USPS and UPS say it costs to send it to you.? here's a link to see what it is ?https://mossmotors.com/racing-screen
My TR3 has had its twin mounted for 34 years this year.
?
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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 29 09:09:52 2021
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (grandwazoo at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 11:09:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FWD: Re:  Brooklands windscreen repro sold
Message-ID: <c31b7b35-8590-4f50-89a7-1d1e1d8b2a98@Mikes-iPhone-11>


Well. That didn?t take long

Sold

Mike

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 10:42 AM Mike Jackson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net (mailto:fot at autox.team.net)> wrote:

I have a never mounted Brooklands windscreen reproduction to sell. Just like what you could buy from Moss but mine has been "attic aged".

Blow off the dust, Windex the glass and it's ready to mount. You can have mine for $50 plus the $25 that both USPS and UPS say it costs to send it to you. here's a link to see what it is https://mossmotors.com/racing-screen

My TR3 has had its twin mounted for 34 years this year.

Mike Jackson

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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 29 13:37:31 2021
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 19:37:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 exhaust valve question
References: <1522366636.1529172.1635536251019.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1522366636.1529172.1635536251019@mail.yahoo.com>

Amici,
I recently had a (catastrophic)?failure in my engine that involved valve and piston interference. ?I?m using the gas flowed high performance stock size exhaust?valves that Moss Europe sells. ?Have any of you had any experience with these valves, good or bad? ?Trying to rule out a bad part versus something else. ? The ?penny? broke off the ?stick? but I?m not sure if that caused the issue, or an issue caused that. ? The stem was not bent? but is now just a stem! ?Flows just a little too well now!
Any experiences with those valves? ?(HRG rules require stock size valves)
Thanks,Dave Gott


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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Oct  1 07:23:36 2021
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 13:23:36 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Spitfires at the Runoffs
Message-ID: <SJ0PR15MB4552941E225899AF2C3DCFE0E1AB9@SJ0PR15MB4552.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Horrible picture of a good start.   Steve Sargis on the pole in H Prod.  And 4 seconds in front after the first lap.

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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Oct  1 07:59:44 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 13:59:44 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs
In-Reply-To: <000c01d7b5a3$ab596c20$020c4460$@cox.net>
References: <015a01d7b410$549a8c50$fdcfa4f0$@cox.net>
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Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB7583B8BB6E679987D97F01A590AB9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Look at the thickness of the walls of the hubs.  The early hubs were thin and as the various rally departments were snapping them off, they beefed up the hubs and at some point went to the coarse thread.....................Cheers, Henry Morrison

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:34 PM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing at aol.com>
Cc: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs


Phil, thanks.

   I removed the wheels today and they are bolt on adapters front and back but fine thread.

     The plot thickens!!

     Hank



Hank Giffin

757-375-1491



From: Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:39 AM
To: Henry Giffin <hankgiffin at cox.net>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs



Hank;

I could be wrong here, but I have an early TR3 axle with the wire wheel hubs integral to the hub (as opposed to the bolt-on adapters). Those hubs appear to have a finer thread than the later bolt-on adapters. The thread change was concurrent with the switch from integral to bolt-on.

Phil

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

?

There is a lot of expertise on FoT and I have a question I expect the knowledgeable ones will be able to help.

     On my early (1956) street TR3 (ex-Mike Jackson) I decided to replace the somewhat rusty wire wheel knockoffs.  I had another set of knockoffs (and hubs) from another TR3 in better shape, but the threads were more coarse and didn?t fit.  So I thought they might have been from another British car, and ordered a new set of knockoffs from Moss.  They too were too coarse.

    Can anyone confirm that the early TR3s had a finer thread on their hubs?

    I would like to keep the car original but may have to swap the hubs to use the nicer knockoffs, or chrome the fine threaded ones.  Or just live with the rust!

    Can anyone confirm the early TR3s had finer knockoff threads or is there another possible explanation?

     Thx, Hank





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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Fri Oct  1 20:41:46 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 19:41:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Sargis wins!
Message-ID: <1591016628.111107.1633142506721@connect.xfinity.com>

SCCA H Production Champion.

Dave H.

https://www.scca.com/articles/2015507-sargis-wins-hp-for-back-to-back-crowns?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday&utm_content=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday+CID_5e1cedcb08c9b3990ce8c73cf7b4c50c&utm_source=CM&utm_term=Sargis%20Wins%20HP%20for%20Back-to-Back%20Crowns
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Oct  2 06:49:51 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 08:49:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Sargis wins!
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Looks like E production runs Sunday 10:20 AM.  Sam Halkias is in that group with his TR6.

On Oct 1, 2021, at 10:41 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

SCCA H Production Champion.

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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Sat Oct  2 09:14:28 2021
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:14:28 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sargis wins!
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Sadly, I won't get to see that race as I'll be prepping for my race in Spec Racer Ford.  Bad timing.  I usually like to watch that one.

Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233
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Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 8:49:51 AM
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Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <Fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Sargis wins!

Looks like E production runs Sunday 10:20 AM.  Sam Halkias is in that group with his TR6.

On Oct 1, 2021, at 10:41 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

SCCA H Production Champion.

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From hankgiffin at cox.net  Sun Oct  3 00:03:09 2021
From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 02:03:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB7583B8BB6E679987D97F01A590AB9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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Henry, thanks.  I believe you have it right.  The early hubs look thinner.  

     I changed the hubs to the heavier ones with the coarse threads with the nicer knockoffs.  

     Thanks again, Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

From: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 10:00 AM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing at aol.com>; Henry Giffin <hankgiffin at cox.net>
Cc: fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs

 

Look at the thickness of the walls of the hubs.  The early hubs were thin and as the various rally departments were snapping them off, they beefed up the hubs and at some point went to the coarse thread.....................Cheers, Henry Morrison

 

  _____  

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:34 PM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing at aol.com <mailto:vfracing at aol.com> >
Cc: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>  <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> >; fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>  <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs 

 

Phil, thanks.

   I removed the wheels today and they are bolt on adapters front and back but fine thread.  

     The plot thickens!!

     Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

From: Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com <mailto:vfracing at aol.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:39 AM
To: Henry Giffin <hankgiffin at cox.net <mailto:hankgiffin at cox.net> >
Cc: fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs

 

Hank;

I could be wrong here, but I have an early TR3 axle with the wire wheel hubs integral to the hub (as opposed to the bolt-on adapters). Those hubs appear to have a finer thread than the later bolt-on adapters. The thread change was concurrent with the switch from integral to bolt-on.

Phil

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

There is a lot of expertise on FoT and I have a question I expect the knowledgeable ones will be able to help.

     On my early (1956) street TR3 (ex-Mike Jackson) I decided to replace the somewhat rusty wire wheel knockoffs.  I had another set of knockoffs (and hubs) from another TR3 in better shape, but the threads were more coarse and didn?t fit.  So I thought they might have been from another British car, and ordered a new set of knockoffs from Moss.  They too were too coarse.

    Can anyone confirm that the early TR3s had a finer thread on their hubs? 

    I would like to keep the car original but may have to swap the hubs to use the nicer knockoffs, or chrome the fine threaded ones.  Or just live with the rust!  

    Can anyone confirm the early TR3s had finer knockoff threads or is there another possible explanation?

     Thx, Hank

     

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

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From rick.parent at att.net  Sun Oct  3 16:56:41 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 22:56:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spit Gearbox
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Greetings FOTers
I am in need of a dog ring gearbox for a Spit, please let me know what you have. I passed on one a few months ago and of course I need one today. :-(
Rick Parent
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Mon Oct  4 15:50:02 2021
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 21:50:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] (no subject)
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Damn fine drive

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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Tue Oct  5 11:15:25 2021
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:15:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR3A
Message-ID: <BN6PR22MB0067FF048B1F6B7B8AA60D3299AF9@BN6PR22MB0067.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Tony Parella (SVRA) contacted me this morning saying that he is restoring a stock '58 TR3A and needs a set of original steel wheels & hubcaps, if anyone has a set they want to move, you can contact Tony @ 214 475 8088 or Tony at svar.com...
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From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  5 23:37:34 2021
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 06:37:34 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Sebring TR4 at Goodwood
Message-ID: <149C5090-A976-4FEC-B8BA-DEA5519B0E1D@btinternet.com>

Dear all,

Just to let you know the Sebring TR4 is racing at Goodwood in the 78th Members Meeting on 17th October.

The race is 12:40 UK time and will be streamed live on YouTube.

Hope you can get to watch.

Kind regards,

Keith

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 08:28:30 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:28:30 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Sebring TR4 at Goodwood
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Message-ID: <002501d7babe$6fd43610$4f7ca230$@gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

Had since Spa the problem, that the engine won't idle properly. Only on 7
cylinders.

I thought #2 was the devious one but in fact it was #5 in which idle jet a
tiny metal bit blocked the fuel way.

The balance bar confused #2 when #5 is off service.

 

With a little jet reamer I cleaned the jet and all 8 are back on service:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUsBIqcID_3/?utm_medium=copy_link

Tomorrow....off to Dijon to see how TR8 and TR4 will do.

Cheers
Chris



From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 09:26:43 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 10:26:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
Message-ID: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set
of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and
the company says it will work.

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
device.


https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
coating.





Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

*Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
ADVANTAGES:

   - *Restores and Holds Clearances*


Bob Kramer
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 10:04:59 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:04:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>

I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on #4.
With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears to fit.

I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I
suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit
differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may
change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance
may be perfect.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  6 10:50:38 2021
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:50:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D6C17D7-23D9-4FCE-99EB-2A11D7A6525D@yahoo.com>

Bob, I don?t know anything about the coating, but if the pistons were used enough to scuff, how are the ring grooves?  I have good looking used pistons,  but the ring groove are worn and out of spec.  Joe B

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on #4.  With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears to fit.
> 
> I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance may be perfect. 
> 
> Bob Kramer
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 
>> 
>> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>> 
>> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
>> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>> 
>> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>> 
>> Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.
>> 
>> ADVANTAGES:
>> Restores and Holds Clearances
>> 
>> Bob Kramer
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 11:03:31 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:03:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
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References: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <3D6C17D7-23D9-4FCE-99EB-2A11D7A6525D@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWvL5mdYW=33BuFD3q1ewxoZC=ipRvX8BpnZ+RcSooXZqg@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,

Can't say I'm lucky when I scuffed pistons but mine are okay.  I had a
radiator bottom hose pop off and saw the steam, but by the time I realized
I should shut it down I had the damage to just the skirts. Three were
scuffed a very minor amount so I saved the set . They've been sitting in a
box for years and only now, with this product would I consider using them.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:50 AM Joe <jaboruch at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Bob, I don?t know anything about the coating, but if the pistons were used
> enough to scuff, how are the ring grooves?  I have good looking used
> pistons,  but the ring groove are worn and out of spec.  Joe B
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on
> #4.  With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears
> to fit.
>
> I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I
> suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit
> differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may
> change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance
> may be perfect.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
>> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
>> and the company says it will work.
>>
>> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
>> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
>> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
>> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
>> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
>> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
>> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
>> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
>> device.
>>
>>
>> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>>
>> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
>> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
>> coating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
>> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
>> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>>
>> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
>> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>>
>> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
>> ADVANTAGES:
>>
>>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>>
>>
>> Bob Kramer
>>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 13:54:17 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 21:54:17 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002e01d7baeb$f335cff0$d9a16fd0$@gmail.com>

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 14:06:51 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 22:06:51 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>

See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.

 

And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
An: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: AW: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:10:04 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:10:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>

Chris

I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had.
I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but
without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3
pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came
with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:

> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:16:10 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 23:16:10 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
 <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004101d7baf7$632497f0$296dc7d0$@gmail.com>

Hi Bob,

 

the forged Mahle pistons are 100gr lighter than the Wisecos.

On the photos the bigger shaped piston is the Mahle one.

But it is very fragil. The skirt is very thin and to compensate for piston slap the skirt is longer than on the Wisecos.

Price for one Piston was 250?.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

Von: Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Cc: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Chris

 

I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had. I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3 pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?

 

Bob Kramer

 

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com <mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com> > wrote:

See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.

 

And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com>  <tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com> > 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
An: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com <mailto:rkramer56 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> ' <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: AW: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:54:42 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:54:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <004101d7baf7$632497f0$296dc7d0$@gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
 <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABFvdWtkZstRDHs3aGtX5-xS=7QDBAbbhSgZC-9cAdhRro8LCQ@mail.gmail.com>

We get the full set of Wisecos plus liners for that number, but 100 grams
is nearly a 1/4 pound!

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 4:16 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
>
>
> the forged Mahle pistons are 100gr lighter than the Wisecos.
>
> On the photos the bigger shaped piston is the Mahle one.
>
> But it is very fragil. The skirt is very thin and to compensate for piston
> slap the skirt is longer than on the Wisecos.
>
> Price for one Piston was 250?.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10
> *An:* tr4racing at googlemail.com
> *Cc:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had.
> I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but
> without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3
> pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came
> with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?
>
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  7 00:15:30 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 08:15:30 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <2023172977.82805.1633574595259@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
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 <2023172977.82805.1633574595259@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d7bb42$bb0c9a80$3125cf80$@gmail.com>

Hi Dave,

 

they don?t have a part number, but can be ordered here:

https://wahl-spezialkolben.de/en/

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net> 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021 04:43
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Betreff: Re: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Hi Chris, 

Thanks for sharing the piston info and photos.  Very good to know.  

Do the Mahle pistons have a part number?  Can they be ordered? 

Just wondering. 

Dave 

On 10/06/2021 1:06 PM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.

 

And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com>  <tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com> > 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
An: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com <mailto:rkramer56 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: AW: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Thu Oct  7 14:23:59 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 06:23:59 +1000
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
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i have had numerous sets of pistons coated/recoated for competition use.
typically, my local vendor of such services says he wont add more than
0.002"  so in that case, you are limited with what you can 'recondition"
using that system. It is described as "moly-teflon"

the coatings i've used will not 'fill in" deep scratches etc so the
machined finish on the piston needs to be near-perfect

when used on supercharger rotors, it is <0.001" thick

i have no personal experiences with the brand listed

Terry



On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 6:28 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 14:26:19 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:26:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Another Kastner car
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVazabH3c9=bh4wHrY5G=QWwXBvd9AW-iEBtU7vqrBFyAw@mail.gmail.com>

I never knew that Kas had an F5000 car.

mike h

>From this week's Haggerty newsletter
10 pedigreed open-wheel racers at American Speed Festival 20211971 Lola T192
Cameron Neveu

Ego and racing are inextricably linked?and they don?t honor the divides of
racing series and regulatory bodies, either. Case in point: the Questor
Grand Prix held at Ontario Speedway in California, a shoot-out of sorts
between Formula 1 and Formula 5000 cars of the era. R.W. ?Kas? Kastner?he
of Team Nissan GTP fame?bought this Lola T192 from Chicago-area distributor
Carl Hass, but before he managed to put an engine in the rolling chassis,
Hass was back on the phone. Would Kastner loan Hass the car so that Al
Unser could challenge the F5000 boys in California? On the condition that
Hass supplied and installed the engine (and left it in the car when Unser
was done with the race), Kastner said yes.
Cameron Neveu

Unser didn?t perform very well at Ontario Speedway, but the 1400-pound,
monocoque racer and its Weber-crowned Chevy 305 have earned its current
owner, Mead Korwin, plenty of on-track grins. Leaning back in a folding
camping chair, wearing Columbia boots and a denim short-sleeve shirt,
Korwin pronounces it: ?Remarkably forgiving. It really is. It?s all torque?
It kinda grunts its way out of the corner, you don?t really have to rev it.

?Donohue called this model one of the best natural-handling race cars he
ever drove.?


Copyright Haggerty Newsletter

Author:

Grace Houghton <https://www.hagerty.com/media/author/grace-houghton/>
06 October 2021
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From bownes at seiri.com  Thu Oct  7 16:57:49 2021
From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 18:57:49 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Another Kastner car
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVazabH3c9=bh4wHrY5G=QWwXBvd9AW-iEBtU7vqrBFyAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO0FjVazabH3c9=bh4wHrY5G=QWwXBvd9AW-iEBtU7vqrBFyAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <645C8988-1AD5-419D-9313-C3C4B05AE861@seiri.com>


If only it had a Rover V8!

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 16:27, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I never knew that Kas had an F5000 car.
> 
> mike h
> 
> From this week's Haggerty newsletter
> 10 pedigreed open-wheel racers at American Speed Festival 2021
> 1971 Lola T192
> Cameron Neveu
> Ego and racing are inextricably linked?and they don?t honor the divides of racing series and regulatory bodies, either. Case in point: the Questor Grand Prix held at Ontario Speedway in California, a shoot-out of sorts between Formula 1 and Formula 5000 cars of the era. R.W. ?Kas? Kastner?he of Team Nissan GTP fame?bought this Lola T192 from Chicago-area distributor Carl Hass, but before he managed to put an engine in the rolling chassis, Hass was back on the phone. Would Kastner loan Hass the car so that Al Unser could challenge the F5000 boys in California? On the condition that Hass supplied and installed the engine (and left it in the car when Unser was done with the race), Kastner said yes.
> Cameron Neveu
> Unser didn?t perform very well at Ontario Speedway, but the 1400-pound, monocoque racer and its Weber-crowned Chevy 305 have earned its current owner, Mead Korwin, plenty of on-track grins. Leaning back in a folding camping chair, wearing Columbia boots and a denim short-sleeve shirt, Korwin pronounces it: ?Remarkably forgiving. It really is. It?s all torque? It kinda grunts its way out of the corner, you don?t really have to rev it.
> ?Donohue called this model one of the best natural-handling race cars he ever drove.?
> 
> Copyright Haggerty Newsletter
> Author:
> Grace Houghton
> 06 October 2021
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 17:59:25 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:59:25 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Another Kastner car
In-Reply-To: <645C8988-1AD5-419D-9313-C3C4B05AE861@seiri.com>
References: <645C8988-1AD5-419D-9313-C3C4B05AE861@seiri.com>
Message-ID: <7A0EB52D-62BC-46B3-A70F-FA3D209CE3DF@gmail.com>

Here?s a picture from back when they were running both the Trans Am car and the Lola.  A far cry from how it is done today!



Chuck

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> If only it had a Rover V8!
> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2021, at 16:27, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> I never knew that Kas had an F5000 car.
>> 
>> mike h
>> 
>> From this week's Haggerty newsletter
>> 10 pedigreed open-wheel racers at American Speed Festival 2021
>> 1971 Lola T192
>> Cameron Neveu
>> Ego and racing are inextricably linked?and they don?t honor the divides of racing series and regulatory bodies, either. Case in point: the Questor Grand Prix held at Ontario Speedway in California, a shoot-out of sorts between Formula 1 and Formula 5000 cars of the era. R.W. ?Kas? Kastner?he of Team Nissan GTP fame?bought this Lola T192 from Chicago-area distributor Carl Hass, but before he managed to put an engine in the rolling chassis, Hass was back on the phone. Would Kastner loan Hass the car so that Al Unser could challenge the F5000 boys in California? On the condition that Hass supplied and installed the engine (and left it in the car when Unser was done with the race), Kastner said yes.
>> Cameron Neveu
>> Unser didn?t perform very well at Ontario Speedway, but the 1400-pound, monocoque racer and its Weber-crowned Chevy 305 have earned its current owner, Mead Korwin, plenty of on-track grins. Leaning back in a folding camping chair, wearing Columbia boots and a denim short-sleeve shirt, Korwin pronounces it: ?Remarkably forgiving. It really is. It?s all torque? It kinda grunts its way out of the corner, you don?t really have to rev it.
>> ?Donohue called this model one of the best natural-handling race cars he ever drove.?
>> 
>> Copyright Haggerty Newsletter
>> Author:
>> Grace Houghton
>> 06 October 2021
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From rick.parent at att.net  Sat Oct  9 11:48:33 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 17:48:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Syncro's
References: <1422018240.1380873.1633801713057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1422018240.1380873.1633801713057@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings to all in Triumph land.
I have one set of sample Sycro's for the GT6 and Spit transmissions now, they will not fit the early non syncro first gear Spit box. I need a racer to test them in the next 2 weeks, this offer is for Racers only and not street car owners. To qualify you must be a long time Spit racer and mechanic so I can get some experienced feedback. The cash outlay is significant so I can not have a fail on the feedback. Once these have been properly tested I will make an order and will sell them to anyone who has an interest. The big Triumph syncro's will be next up, stay tuned.
I need an NOS complete slider assembly (1-2nd or 3-4th), (any) gear and syncro for the TR4-6 to build tooling for the forged steel, heat treated with a carbon friction surface big Triumph syncro's. Does anyone have these parts and be will to part with them? Thanks.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 11 07:10:26 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 13:10:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.

PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)<https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>


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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 11 08:53:35 2021
From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>

 unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed
    On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.? Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.?
PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)


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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 11 09:00:02 2021
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:00:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
 <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
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I?ve been thinking that maybe the Apple AirTags might be a great way to track race car and trailer as a theft recovery device; might stick one on the frame somewhere:
Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves?

  
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Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves
 
By Barry Collins
 
Could an Apple AirTag help you track down a lost or stolen car? Read the results of this week-long road test
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Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Monday, October 11, 2021, 10:53 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed
    On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.? Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.?
PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)


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From paulricco at att.net  Mon Oct 11 09:10:17 2021
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 10:10:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
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If they are really determined they can steal anything. However, there are things that make them move on to someone else?s stuff that is an easier target. This is the only tongue lock we will use. It is called The Vault. Made in the us. Very heavy gauge steal. Lock aimed down so it is hard to work. Designed to be hard to pry. Expensive in the world of locks. But a very good deterrent. 

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 9:54 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed
> 
> On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes. 
> 
> PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)
> 
> 
> Marty
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Mon Oct 11 09:13:05 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:13:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FW: Billy Currington - Good Directions and Turnip Greens -
 YouTube TR4A
Message-ID: <e98f5a987ad79ff51e64b03749a7ab23748c1b21@webmail>

One of my favorite songs found this recently ....

	-----------------------------------------From: "Tom Householder" 

To: "Tom Householder"
Cc: 
Sent: Monday October 11 2021 10:56:47AM
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From dolan.char at gmail.com  Mon Oct 11 09:13:18 2021
From: dolan.char at gmail.com (Charlie Dolan)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:13:18 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <1692455237.800487.1633964402393@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
 <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1692455237.800487.1633964402393@mail.yahoo.com>
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Airtags are great but limited in their utility. You?ll need to act very quickly to get your vehicle back before the tracker is disabled by the thief.

They have ?anti-stalking? features built into them which make it very easy for the perpetrator to identify that an AirTag is on the vehicle and disable it.

What to do if you find an AirTag or get an alert that an AirTag is with you - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212227>

Apple AirTag has built-in anti-stalking tech | Popular Science (popsci.com)<https://www.popsci.com/story/technology/apple-airtag-anti-stalking-privacy-tech/>

Charlie

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, October 11, 2021 at 11:00 AM
To: ralph hansen <quikrx at yahoo.com>, FOT <fot at autox.team.net>, marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
I?ve been thinking that maybe the Apple AirTags might be a great way to track race car and trailer as a theft recovery device; might stick one on the frame somewhere:

Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves<https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2021/05/15/apple-airtag-a-brilliant-car-tracker-as-this-road-test-proves/amp/>


[cid:image002.png at 01D7BE90.FDA44BD0]

[X]
Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves

By Barry Collins

Could an Apple AirTag help you track down a lost or stolen car? Read the results of this week-long road test


Dave Gott


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On Monday, October 11, 2021, 10:53 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed

On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.

PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)<https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>


Marty
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:18:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FW: Billy Currington - Good Directions and Turnip Greens -
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	-----------------------------------------From: "Tom Householder" 

To: "Tom Householder"
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Sent: Monday October 11 2021 10:56:47AM
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Mon Oct 11 09:18:31 2021
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:18:31 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <14D6F5D4-61A6-4AE5-8528-84FF44A6D5AD@att.net>
References: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
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Painting your name / ID of some sort on the roof helps authorities find your stuff from the air and LoJack or similar is also useful .


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? If they are really determined they can steal anything. However, there are things that make them move on to someone else?s stuff that is an easier target. This is the only tongue lock we will use. It is called The Vault. Made in the us. Very heavy gauge steal. Lock aimed down so it is hard to work. Designed to be hard to pry. Expensive in the world of locks. But a very good deterrent.

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2021, at 9:54 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed

On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.

PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)<https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>


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From levibud at icloud.com  Mon Oct 11 09:39:34 2021
From: levibud at icloud.com (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 09:39:34 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
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I have a portable hidden GPS device that I?ve used in my trailer, my RV, and for one layer of security driving the TR6 to VTR and back this year. I slept a lot better knowing that the GPS would help find it if the TR6 got scooped up and hauled off. Finding it is important if the prevention devices don?t work. 

I?m also going to have a big #3 painted on the top of my trailer so the police might see it from above and the thieves probably won?t figure out it?s there. Fun to at least THINK it might actually work to recover it.

Bud




> On Oct 11, 2021, at 7:10 AM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes. 
> 
> PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com) <https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>
> 
> 
> Marty
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Mon Oct 11 09:42:35 2021
From: kknight at klaenv.com (kknight at klaenv.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 08:42:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Tracker
Message-ID: <001101d7beb6$9da41320$d8ec3960$@klaenv.com>

A company that has supported VARA is www.geoskyalert.com
<http://www.geoskyalert.com>   and Ron sells tracking devices for trailers.


 

A great lock, like the Altorlock or similar, where you store and keeping an
eye on the beast is as good as it gets.  Those that steal have always, and
will always, be with us. 

 

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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon Oct 11 13:52:14 2021
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 12:52:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
Message-ID: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI <https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI>

John Linney
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Mon Oct 11 16:08:33 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:08:33 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR03MB4551487563B7675C4D56AF80E6B59@BYAPR03MB4551.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Curious as to the camera brand/type on Bill Babcock's #222 car.  anyone?

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:52 PM
To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com>
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI

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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon Oct 11 16:20:23 2021
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:20:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR03MB4551487563B7675C4D56AF80E6B59@BYAPR03MB4551.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
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It?s an Insta 360 ONE R, 360 degree camera. The quality isn?t great, but the versatility of being able to point it anywhere after the event is priceless.

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:08 PM, LEE FOLLANSBEE <65356sc at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Curious as to the camera brand/type on Bill Babcock's #222 car.  anyone?
> 
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:52 PM
> To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Cc: Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com>
> Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
>  
> 
> I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and
>  SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.
> 
> In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy
>  of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.
> 
> 
> https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI <https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI>
> 
> 
> John Linney
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Mon Oct 11 16:27:34 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:27:34 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <4002E18E-AD8B-47FC-895A-950C8871543A@linneyweb.com>
References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
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Message-ID: <BYAPR03MB4551B0423C53F79588C14E79E6B59@BYAPR03MB4551.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

very cool.  quality looks good in the video.

________________________________
From: John Linney <john at linneyweb.com>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:20 PM
To: LEE FOLLANSBEE <65356sc at msn.com>
Cc: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>; Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video

It?s an Insta 360 ONE R, 360 degree camera. The quality isn?t great, but the versatility of being able to point it anywhere after the event is priceless.

On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:08 PM, LEE FOLLANSBEE <65356sc at msn.com<mailto:65356sc at msn.com>> wrote:

Curious as to the camera brand/type on Bill Babcock's #222 car.  anyone?

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:52 PM
To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Cc: Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com<mailto:ben at svra.com>>
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
https://classicmotorfilms.com<https://classicmotorfilms.com/>

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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Oct 11 19:54:43 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:54:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
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References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
Message-ID: <DC8EDA6D-3A34-4B7F-AC33-CF3A44EFB5DD@ponostyle.com>

Hi John, may we share the link to this video on social media and our own websites. 
Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 12:52 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.
> 
> In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.
> 
> https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI <https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI>
> 
> John Linney
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> https://classicmotorfilms.com <https://classicmotorfilms.com/>
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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon Oct 11 19:58:51 2021
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:58:51 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <DC8EDA6D-3A34-4B7F-AC33-CF3A44EFB5DD@ponostyle.com>
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Message-ID: <F4795EFB-5606-4695-8BA6-07FD9A1559FE@linneyweb.com>

Please do Bill. The more the merrier. Also feel free to embed it. 

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi John, may we share the link to this video on social media and our own websites. 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 12:52 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.
>> 
>> In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI
>> 
>> John Linney
>> Classic Motor Films
>> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>> 
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Oct 12 10:08:18 2021
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 12:08:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
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Enjoyed that, thanks, terrific editing telling the story.

 

Paul

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Linney via
Fot
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:52 PM
To: Fot
Cc: Ben Cissell
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video

 


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been
possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and
SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and
Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

 

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a
lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.





https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI





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Classic Motor Films

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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 12 14:20:33 2021
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (JOHN DAVIES)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 21:20:33 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 239
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Wow, great race, great video!? Would that I'd been there!
Next year, in America!

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 14:52:19 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:52:19 -0500
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Kas? Candy Box Vitesse will be running the Kastner Cup. 

Joe Alexander
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> On Oct 12, 2021, at 3:31 PM, JOHN DAVIES via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> ?Wow, great race, great video!  Would that I'd been there! 
> Next year, in America!
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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 15:10:00 2021
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:10:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 239
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Yes. Yes it will be at the Kastner Cup in 2022.

It will also be racing this fall at the VRG Turkey Bowl.
[image: PXL_20211012_175808788.jpg]

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:56 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Kas? Candy Box Vitesse will be running the Kastner Cup.
>
> Joe Alexander
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From timmmurphh at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 15:19:42 2021
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Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Octoberfest
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Anybody else going to Blackhawk this weekend. Ryan and I will be there with
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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue Oct 12 15:26:03 2021
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cool. Who owns it now?  I?ll be at the Turkey Bowl.

On Oct 12, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Yes. Yes it will be at the Kastner Cup in 2022. 

It will also be racing this fall at the VRG Turkey Bowl. 
<PXL_20211012_175808788.jpg>

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:56 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Kas? Candy Box Vitesse will be running the Kastner Cup. 

Joe Alexander
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Cell:  319.464.4711


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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Oct 13 21:16:17 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 22:16:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Octoberfest
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Yes! 
Friendly Ghost Racing is in the final stages of preparation. (For the race at Blackhawk Farms this weekend. We will be there. See candid shop photo for said planned endeavor. 
Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
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> ?
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 00:19:09 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 23:19:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
Message-ID: <791FBC4A-0A7E-4F2C-9787-160367544D3A@ponostyle.com>

I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 

I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 



Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 15 03:15:21 2021
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (john.r.davies at btinternet.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 10:15:21 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 243
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For Bill Babcock,
Bill I watched this year's Kastner Cup on video, from 6000 miles away, and
enjoyed in particular Peyote, for it's highly modified appearance as well as
it and tour performance!

The car is well known in the US, but not here in the UK.   I, for one, would
love to know more about it, and its many mods.   Has a description ben
published anywhere?   If not, would you write one, please?

Best wishes,
John Davies
(Much modified, but nothing like Peyote, Vitesse SofS)

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From walje at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 15 08:42:10 2021
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:42:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
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Congratulations Bill, well deserved. 


Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done. The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at COTA

Look forward to seeing 001 on the track

Regards

Dennis WALJE
68 GT6 

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> On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
> 
> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Babcock
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From emanteno at comcast.net  Fri Oct 15 08:54:01 2021
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
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On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 9:47 AM DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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> Congratulations Bill, well deserved.
>
>
> Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor
> Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done.
> The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at
> COTA
>
> The same Ambro was at Edmond, OK for the Vintage Triumph Register National
Convention last month. Beautiful car. I can't remember the
owner/driver's name but he has extensive racing plans for the car and he
lives in Texas, so COTA is a very real possibility.

Irv Korey
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 08:57:37 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:57:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <2C0D28A2-5DEF-458D-AEE6-A2EFF9557278@sbcglobal.net>
References: <2C0D28A2-5DEF-458D-AEE6-A2EFF9557278@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <614C2B4D-0DE8-4755-8A7C-EF89C453207F@gmail.com>

It may beat COTA.

It also may be at the next KastnerCup.

Potentially, there could be FOUR AMBROS at the next Kastner Cup.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:47 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Congratulations Bill, well deserved. 
> 
> 
> Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done. The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at COTA
> 
> Look forward to seeing 001 on the track
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dennis WALJE
> 68 GT6 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>> 
>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Babcock
>> Beach Bum
>> bill at ponostyle.com
>> https://www.Ponostyle.com
>> 
>> <IMG_5752.jpg>
>> 
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 11:02:56 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 10:02:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <614C2B4D-0DE8-4755-8A7C-EF89C453207F@gmail.com>
References: <2C0D28A2-5DEF-458D-AEE6-A2EFF9557278@sbcglobal.net>
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Wow, that?s a really tall roll bar hoop, is he perhaps not wanting to damage his hat in a rollover?? And pipe insulation for the padding, after all that beautiful work? Gorgeous car, makes me want to get busy-er on mine. 

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may beat COTA.
> 
> It also may be at the next KastnerCup.
> 
> Potentially, there could be FOUR AMBROS at the next Kastner Cup.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:47 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Congratulations Bill, well deserved. 
>> 
>> 
>> Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done. The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at COTA
>> 
>> Look forward to seeing 001 on the track
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Dennis WALJE
>> 68 GT6 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>>> 
>>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill Babcock
>>> Beach Bum
>>> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com>
>>> https://www.Ponostyle.com
>>> 
>>> <IMG_5752.jpg>
>>> 
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From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Oct 15 16:27:53 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 17:27:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
Message-ID: <804926D0-1C3D-4E75-8F9B-6034BB45EFA0@multivintage.com>

The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.

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Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars

Sent from my iPhone

From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 16:47:45 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 15:47:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
In-Reply-To: <804926D0-1C3D-4E75-8F9B-6034BB45EFA0@multivintage.com>
References: <804926D0-1C3D-4E75-8F9B-6034BB45EFA0@multivintage.com>
Message-ID: <42ED697C-3B99-4572-A6AA-76CD6C1A568F@gmail.com>

Where?s the bag of Culver?s?

Chuck

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.
> 
> <image.jpg>
> 
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
> 
> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
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> 
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From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Oct 15 17:03:56 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:03:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
In-Reply-To: <42ED697C-3B99-4572-A6AA-76CD6C1A568F@gmail.com>
References: <42ED697C-3B99-4572-A6AA-76CD6C1A568F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1877A5CC-2064-44D4-8B5B-9E4C8F8E863F@multivintage.com>

We are way to sophisticated for Culver?s .
Fall race weekends in Wisconsin are not limited to. 
Smoked fish
Slow cooked bratwurst 
Wine and cheese
Beer

Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969Triumph GT6+ tacecars

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 5:47 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?Where?s the bag of Culver?s?
> 
> Chuck
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.
>> 
>> <image.jpg>
>> 
>> Jason Ostrowski 
>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 17:44:55 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 16:44:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
In-Reply-To: <1877A5CC-2064-44D4-8B5B-9E4C8F8E863F@multivintage.com>
References: <1877A5CC-2064-44D4-8B5B-9E4C8F8E863F@multivintage.com>
Message-ID: <5C801734-A6AE-43EB-B458-CCEF898CF778@gmail.com>

Sounds awesome!

Thanks,

Chuck

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com> wrote:
> 
> ?We are way to sophisticated for Culver?s .
> Fall race weekends in Wisconsin are not limited to. 
> Smoked fish
> Slow cooked bratwurst 
> Wine and cheese
> Beer
> 
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969Triumph GT6+ tacecars
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 5:47 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Where?s the bag of Culver?s?
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.
>>> 
>>> <image.jpg>
>>> 
>>> Jason Ostrowski 
>>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 15 19:00:11 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 01:00:11 +0000
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB451455FCA15CFBB92CF16FD9BABA9@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?  Dang that looks fun.

Marty
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 19:27:42 2021
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 21:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?  Dang that looks fun.
> 
> Marty
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 15 19:34:15 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 01:34:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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750 miles from my driveway. Triumphs would look really nice on that track. ?

Marty

________________________________
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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 9:27 PM
To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] New Racetrack

Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?  Dang that looks fun.

Marty
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From david.c.cutter at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 22:46:49 2021
From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 07:46:49 +0300
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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Added it to the vintage racing map!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1vwMVKme7CP38Lw-1MOhdHtvpBMTSCdL-&usp=sharing

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:37 AM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> 750 miles from my driveway. Triumphs would look really nice on that track.
> ?
>
> Marty
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 15, 2021 9:27 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] New Racetrack
>
> Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?
> Dang that looks fun.
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From rpierce141 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 07:11:22 2021
From: rpierce141 at gmail.com (Rod Pierce)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:11:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Camber Limiter
Message-ID: <CAELLCgfFzmeQEJd=mSN0K3W4_O+jtSEngvqtGodBYsRL+npORA@mail.gmail.com>

I acquired this awhile ago and I am looking for images/diagrams and advice
on how to install it.  The car already has the cutouts so I just need info
on the best way to connect it.

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From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 16 07:14:02 2021
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 13:14:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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 Looks like a fun place for a long vacation.

    On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 12:47:45 AM EDT, David Cutter via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Added it to the vintage racing map!
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1vwMVKme7CP38Lw-1MOhdHtvpBMTSCdL-&usp=sharing

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:37 AM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

750 miles from my driveway. Triumphs would look really nice on that track. ?
Marty
From: Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 9:27 PM
To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] New Racetrack?Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!

Brad EellsSent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?Anybody seen the track layout for the new?Ozarks International Raceway?? Dang that looks fun.
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 08:15:38 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 07:15:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <424676818.58044.1634324630167@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <791FBC4A-0A7E-4F2C-9787-160367544D3A@ponostyle.com>
 <424676818.58044.1634324630167@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <2C56910F-B037-4410-8EAE-9686C2FFD69A@gmail.com>

Thanks so much Curt, I?m reworking the office at my shop to better display memorabilia which I have scattered between home, shop, random boxes, and junk drawers. This plaque was the inspiration for that effort. It was an extraordinarily special event for me, the capstone of my time driving Peyote, and an excellent celebration of Kas, who was one of my heroes.

I have a huge amount of historical data and technical information about Peyote that I plan to pull together in useful form for its current owner. It has an amazing history as one might expect in a car that has competed with unexpected success over a 62-year period. I?ll share a synopsis with our group of the technical information that made a car that is essentially a not-particularly-light, not very powerful, rebodied TR3 so competitive over such a long period. 

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Curt Johnston <curt.johnston at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill, 
> 
> I just thought we should do something for you to recognize your career and sportsmanship.  So I created this new category of award that we will use going forward.  Our sport isn't all about winning, its how you compete as well.  Thanks!
> 
> Curt Johnston
>> On 10/14/2021 11:19 PM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>> 
>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Babcock
>> Beach Bum 
>> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com> 
>> https://www.Ponostyle.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 17:06:40 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 16:06:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <2C56910F-B037-4410-8EAE-9686C2FFD69A@gmail.com>
References: <2C56910F-B037-4410-8EAE-9686C2FFD69A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C2629D37-9C7E-4716-A3C4-295AFE768820@gmail.com>

Well deserved Bill!

Chuck

> On Oct 16, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Bill Babcock via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks so much Curt, I?m reworking the office at my shop to better display memorabilia which I have scattered between home, shop, random boxes, and junk drawers. This plaque was the inspiration for that effort. It was an extraordinarily special event for me, the capstone of my time driving Peyote, and an excellent celebration of Kas, who was one of my heroes.
> 
> I have a huge amount of historical data and technical information about Peyote that I plan to pull together in useful form for its current owner. It has an amazing history as one might expect in a car that has competed with unexpected success over a 62-year period. I?ll share a synopsis with our group of the technical information that made a car that is essentially a not-particularly-light, not very powerful, rebodied TR3 so competitive over such a long period. 
> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Curt Johnston <curt.johnston at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill, 
>>> 
>>> I just thought we should do something for you to recognize your career and sportsmanship.  So I created this new category of award that we will use going forward.  Our sport isn't all about winning, its how you compete as well.  Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Curt Johnston
>>> On 10/14/2021 11:19 PM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>>> 
>>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill Babcock
>>> Beach Bum 
>>> bill at ponostyle.com 
>>> https://www.Ponostyle.com 
>>> 
>>> <IMG_5752.jpg>
>>> 
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Oct 20 02:36:31 2021
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 10:36:31 +0200
Subject: [Fot] AE Hepolite "Powermax" pistons
Message-ID: <000601d7c58d$955ed640$c01c82c0$@camoletti.ch>

Amici, does anyone remember the then famous AE Hepolite "Powermax" pistons ?

They were I believe the ones to have for competition use in the 60s/70s.

I have some and consider using them at some point. 

I have 4 in 87mm STD size, and 4 in 87mm+.030'' (but cut just under the pin
hole to lighten them).

Part numbers engraved on the crown (and casted inside) are 18510 or 18510A.

They weigh around 470 grams each (naked, no rings or pins).

It seems those Powermax pistons had a special die casting process, to bring
them close to the forged pistons in terms of resistance (not sure about
this, as it may have been introduced during the production life).

Is it a good idea to use those (maybe with a coating) vs modern pistons ?

Thank your for your comments !

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti

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From Dave at microworks.net  Thu Oct 21 16:56:55 2021
From: Dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 15:56:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Greetings all
Message-ID: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6507369C27E5B8@mainserver>

I first joined FOT back in July of 2002 but missed the announcement earlier this year about confirming you still wanted to remain on the list so I got purged.  Henry just added me back.

I have Bob Schaller's old car that I bought from his widow in July of 1996 after Bob died the previous month. Had a Car fire with it in 2004 andonly got it running again this past July.  Not going to "race" the car anymore but it will do a few Track Days every year (I instruct most weekends from Oct to May).  Had it up at Triumphest this past weekend. Lyman pulled the Baja TR3 from the Petersen last week and we parked together for the Funcours.

Lyman has asked me to drive the Baja TR3 in the Kastner this next year so the Car is being switched from its off Road config to a Road Race setup

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From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 22 05:55:37 2021
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 12:55:37 +0100
Subject: [Fot] A beautiful battle | 2021 Ronnie Hoare Trophy full race |
 78th Members' Meeting - YouTube
Message-ID: <D8DC705D-5DD2-4630-9006-FF1998403252@btinternet.com>

Dear all,

The full race (Ronnie Hoare Trophy) that saw the Sebring TR4 running high up?

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ksTpGFNEk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ksTpGFNEk>

Enjoy.

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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 25 12:42:25 2021
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 18:42:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Email Address for Greg Solow
References: <1107271637.859709.1635187345166.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1107271637.859709.1635187345166@mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have a current email address for Greg Solow at The Engine Room in California?? I know he used to be on the FOT list, but not sure if he still is or not.? Thanks.
Jack
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 25 12:59:48 2021
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 18:59:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Email Address Request
References: <1134040650.865110.1635188388022.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I got some quick responses to my request for Greg Solow's email address.? Thanks.
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 25 13:08:17 2021
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:08:17 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Email Address for Greg Solow
In-Reply-To: <1107271637.859709.1635187345166@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1107271637.859709.1635187345166.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1ed045f8-ebb7-871e-9c5a-ca0b7c22bff3@gmail.com>

On 10/25/21 11:42 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote:
> Does anyone have a current email address for Greg Solow at The Engine 
> Room in California?? I know he used to be on the FOT list, but not 
> sure if he still is or not.? Thanks.

Greg Solow <gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com>

TeriAnn

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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 29 06:55:30 2021
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:55:30 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Brooklands windscreen repro to sell
Message-ID: <77fb4dd3-0011-7ae4-6e0b-11fda3b34e7a@earthlink.net>

I have a never mounted Brooklands windscreen reproduction to sell.? Just like what you could buy from Moss but mine has been "attic aged".
Blow off the dust, Windex the glass and it's ready to mount.? You can have mine for $50 plus the $25 that both USPS and UPS say it costs to send it to you.? here's a link to see what it is ?https://mossmotors.com/racing-screen
My TR3 has had its twin mounted for 34 years this year.
?
Mike Jackson
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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 29 09:09:52 2021
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (grandwazoo at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 11:09:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FWD: Re:  Brooklands windscreen repro sold
Message-ID: <c31b7b35-8590-4f50-89a7-1d1e1d8b2a98@Mikes-iPhone-11>


Well. That didn?t take long

Sold

Mike

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 10:42 AM Mike Jackson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net (mailto:fot at autox.team.net)> wrote:

I have a never mounted Brooklands windscreen reproduction to sell. Just like what you could buy from Moss but mine has been "attic aged".

Blow off the dust, Windex the glass and it's ready to mount. You can have mine for $50 plus the $25 that both USPS and UPS say it costs to send it to you. here's a link to see what it is https://mossmotors.com/racing-screen

My TR3 has had its twin mounted for 34 years this year.

Mike Jackson

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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 29 13:37:31 2021
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 19:37:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 exhaust valve question
References: <1522366636.1529172.1635536251019.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1522366636.1529172.1635536251019@mail.yahoo.com>

Amici,
I recently had a (catastrophic)?failure in my engine that involved valve and piston interference. ?I?m using the gas flowed high performance stock size exhaust?valves that Moss Europe sells. ?Have any of you had any experience with these valves, good or bad? ?Trying to rule out a bad part versus something else. ? The ?penny? broke off the ?stick? but I?m not sure if that caused the issue, or an issue caused that. ? The stem was not bent? but is now just a stem! ?Flows just a little too well now!
Any experiences with those valves? ?(HRG rules require stock size valves)
Thanks,Dave Gott


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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Oct  1 07:23:36 2021
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 13:23:36 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Spitfires at the Runoffs
Message-ID: <SJ0PR15MB4552941E225899AF2C3DCFE0E1AB9@SJ0PR15MB4552.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Horrible picture of a good start.   Steve Sargis on the pole in H Prod.  And 4 seconds in front after the first lap.

Scott (B.)
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Oct  1 07:59:44 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 13:59:44 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs
In-Reply-To: <000c01d7b5a3$ab596c20$020c4460$@cox.net>
References: <015a01d7b410$549a8c50$fdcfa4f0$@cox.net>
 <090DB230-0619-44A2-A07C-F8A834DDB220@aol.com>
 <000c01d7b5a3$ab596c20$020c4460$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB7583B8BB6E679987D97F01A590AB9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Look at the thickness of the walls of the hubs.  The early hubs were thin and as the various rally departments were snapping them off, they beefed up the hubs and at some point went to the coarse thread.....................Cheers, Henry Morrison

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:34 PM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing at aol.com>
Cc: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs


Phil, thanks.

   I removed the wheels today and they are bolt on adapters front and back but fine thread.

     The plot thickens!!

     Hank



Hank Giffin

757-375-1491



From: Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:39 AM
To: Henry Giffin <hankgiffin at cox.net>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs



Hank;

I could be wrong here, but I have an early TR3 axle with the wire wheel hubs integral to the hub (as opposed to the bolt-on adapters). Those hubs appear to have a finer thread than the later bolt-on adapters. The thread change was concurrent with the switch from integral to bolt-on.

Phil

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

?

There is a lot of expertise on FoT and I have a question I expect the knowledgeable ones will be able to help.

     On my early (1956) street TR3 (ex-Mike Jackson) I decided to replace the somewhat rusty wire wheel knockoffs.  I had another set of knockoffs (and hubs) from another TR3 in better shape, but the threads were more coarse and didn?t fit.  So I thought they might have been from another British car, and ordered a new set of knockoffs from Moss.  They too were too coarse.

    Can anyone confirm that the early TR3s had a finer thread on their hubs?

    I would like to keep the car original but may have to swap the hubs to use the nicer knockoffs, or chrome the fine threaded ones.  Or just live with the rust!

    Can anyone confirm the early TR3s had finer knockoff threads or is there another possible explanation?

     Thx, Hank





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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Fri Oct  1 20:41:46 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 19:41:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Sargis wins!
Message-ID: <1591016628.111107.1633142506721@connect.xfinity.com>

SCCA H Production Champion.

Dave H.

https://www.scca.com/articles/2015507-sargis-wins-hp-for-back-to-back-crowns?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday&utm_content=2021_1001_Runoffs-SpecialEdition_Friday+CID_5e1cedcb08c9b3990ce8c73cf7b4c50c&utm_source=CM&utm_term=Sargis%20Wins%20HP%20for%20Back-to-Back%20Crowns
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Oct  2 06:49:51 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 08:49:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Sargis wins!
In-Reply-To: <1591016628.111107.1633142506721@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1591016628.111107.1633142506721@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <31A63972-B0F0-4567-B23C-908EED8E2450@me.com>

Looks like E production runs Sunday 10:20 AM.  Sam Halkias is in that group with his TR6.

On Oct 1, 2021, at 10:41 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

SCCA H Production Champion.

Dave H.

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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Sat Oct  2 09:14:28 2021
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:14:28 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sargis wins!
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Sadly, I won't get to see that race as I'll be prepping for my race in Spec Racer Ford.  Bad timing.  I usually like to watch that one.

Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
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Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 8:49:51 AM
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Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <Fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Sargis wins!

Looks like E production runs Sunday 10:20 AM.  Sam Halkias is in that group with his TR6.

On Oct 1, 2021, at 10:41 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

SCCA H Production Champion.

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From hankgiffin at cox.net  Sun Oct  3 00:03:09 2021
From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 02:03:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs
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Henry, thanks.  I believe you have it right.  The early hubs look thinner.  

     I changed the hubs to the heavier ones with the coarse threads with the nicer knockoffs.  

     Thanks again, Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

From: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 10:00 AM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing at aol.com>; Henry Giffin <hankgiffin at cox.net>
Cc: fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs

 

Look at the thickness of the walls of the hubs.  The early hubs were thin and as the various rally departments were snapping them off, they beefed up the hubs and at some point went to the coarse thread.....................Cheers, Henry Morrison

 

  _____  

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:34 PM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing at aol.com <mailto:vfracing at aol.com> >
Cc: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>  <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> >; fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>  <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs 

 

Phil, thanks.

   I removed the wheels today and they are bolt on adapters front and back but fine thread.  

     The plot thickens!!

     Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

From: Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com <mailto:vfracing at aol.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:39 AM
To: Henry Giffin <hankgiffin at cox.net <mailto:hankgiffin at cox.net> >
Cc: fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs

 

Hank;

I could be wrong here, but I have an early TR3 axle with the wire wheel hubs integral to the hub (as opposed to the bolt-on adapters). Those hubs appear to have a finer thread than the later bolt-on adapters. The thread change was concurrent with the switch from integral to bolt-on.

Phil

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Henry Giffin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

There is a lot of expertise on FoT and I have a question I expect the knowledgeable ones will be able to help.

     On my early (1956) street TR3 (ex-Mike Jackson) I decided to replace the somewhat rusty wire wheel knockoffs.  I had another set of knockoffs (and hubs) from another TR3 in better shape, but the threads were more coarse and didn?t fit.  So I thought they might have been from another British car, and ordered a new set of knockoffs from Moss.  They too were too coarse.

    Can anyone confirm that the early TR3s had a finer thread on their hubs? 

    I would like to keep the car original but may have to swap the hubs to use the nicer knockoffs, or chrome the fine threaded ones.  Or just live with the rust!  

    Can anyone confirm the early TR3s had finer knockoff threads or is there another possible explanation?

     Thx, Hank

     

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

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From rick.parent at att.net  Sun Oct  3 16:56:41 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 22:56:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spit Gearbox
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Greetings FOTers
I am in need of a dog ring gearbox for a Spit, please let me know what you have. I passed on one a few months ago and of course I need one today. :-(
Rick Parent
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Mon Oct  4 15:50:02 2021
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 21:50:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] (no subject)
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Damn fine drive

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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Tue Oct  5 11:15:25 2021
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:15:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR3A
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Tony Parella (SVRA) contacted me this morning saying that he is restoring a stock '58 TR3A and needs a set of original steel wheels & hubcaps, if anyone has a set they want to move, you can contact Tony @ 214 475 8088 or Tony at svar.com...
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From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  5 23:37:34 2021
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 06:37:34 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Sebring TR4 at Goodwood
Message-ID: <149C5090-A976-4FEC-B8BA-DEA5519B0E1D@btinternet.com>

Dear all,

Just to let you know the Sebring TR4 is racing at Goodwood in the 78th Members Meeting on 17th October.

The race is 12:40 UK time and will be streamed live on YouTube.

Hope you can get to watch.

Kind regards,

Keith

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 08:28:30 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:28:30 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Sebring TR4 at Goodwood
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Hi Guys,

Had since Spa the problem, that the engine won't idle properly. Only on 7
cylinders.

I thought #2 was the devious one but in fact it was #5 in which idle jet a
tiny metal bit blocked the fuel way.

The balance bar confused #2 when #5 is off service.

 

With a little jet reamer I cleaned the jet and all 8 are back on service:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUsBIqcID_3/?utm_medium=copy_link

Tomorrow....off to Dijon to see how TR8 and TR4 will do.

Cheers
Chris



From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 09:26:43 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 10:26:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
Message-ID: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set
of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and
the company says it will work.

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
device.


https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
coating.





Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

*Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
ADVANTAGES:

   - *Restores and Holds Clearances*


Bob Kramer
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 10:04:59 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:04:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>

I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on #4.
With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears to fit.

I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I
suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit
differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may
change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance
may be perfect.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  6 10:50:38 2021
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:50:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWsx-ddk4QTQPpkVa7cjvfxKpv8+34xVeqLnv76Ekr1paQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <3D6C17D7-23D9-4FCE-99EB-2A11D7A6525D@yahoo.com>

Bob, I don?t know anything about the coating, but if the pistons were used enough to scuff, how are the ring grooves?  I have good looking used pistons,  but the ring groove are worn and out of spec.  Joe B

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on #4.  With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears to fit.
> 
> I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance may be perfect. 
> 
> Bob Kramer
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 
>> 
>> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>> 
>> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
>> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>> 
>> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>> 
>> Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.
>> 
>> ADVANTAGES:
>> Restores and Holds Clearances
>> 
>> Bob Kramer
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 11:03:31 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:03:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
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Message-ID: <CABFvdWvL5mdYW=33BuFD3q1ewxoZC=ipRvX8BpnZ+RcSooXZqg@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,

Can't say I'm lucky when I scuffed pistons but mine are okay.  I had a
radiator bottom hose pop off and saw the steam, but by the time I realized
I should shut it down I had the damage to just the skirts. Three were
scuffed a very minor amount so I saved the set . They've been sitting in a
box for years and only now, with this product would I consider using them.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:50 AM Joe <jaboruch at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Bob, I don?t know anything about the coating, but if the pistons were used
> enough to scuff, how are the ring grooves?  I have good looking used
> pistons,  but the ring groove are worn and out of spec.  Joe B
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on
> #4.  With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears
> to fit.
>
> I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I
> suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit
> differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may
> change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance
> may be perfect.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
>> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
>> and the company says it will work.
>>
>> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
>> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
>> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
>> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
>> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
>> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
>> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
>> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
>> device.
>>
>>
>> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>>
>> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
>> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
>> coating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
>> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
>> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>>
>> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
>> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>>
>> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
>> ADVANTAGES:
>>
>>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>>
>>
>> Bob Kramer
>>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 13:54:17 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 21:54:17 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
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I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 14:06:51 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 22:06:51 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>

See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.

 

And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
An: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: AW: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:10:04 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:10:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>

Chris

I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had.
I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but
without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3
pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came
with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:

> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:16:10 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 23:16:10 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
 <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004101d7baf7$632497f0$296dc7d0$@gmail.com>

Hi Bob,

 

the forged Mahle pistons are 100gr lighter than the Wisecos.

On the photos the bigger shaped piston is the Mahle one.

But it is very fragil. The skirt is very thin and to compensate for piston slap the skirt is longer than on the Wisecos.

Price for one Piston was 250?.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

Von: Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Cc: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Chris

 

I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had. I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3 pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?

 

Bob Kramer

 

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com <mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com> > wrote:

See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.

 

And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com>  <tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com> > 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
An: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com <mailto:rkramer56 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> ' <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: AW: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:54:42 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:54:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <004101d7baf7$632497f0$296dc7d0$@gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
 <CABFvdWuCcQ0Bsc_m1w5Fo6u0FFCO39UF-=J=GAaPdvVi02SL_g@mail.gmail.com>
 <004101d7baf7$632497f0$296dc7d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWtkZstRDHs3aGtX5-xS=7QDBAbbhSgZC-9cAdhRro8LCQ@mail.gmail.com>

We get the full set of Wisecos plus liners for that number, but 100 grams
is nearly a 1/4 pound!

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 4:16 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
>
>
> the forged Mahle pistons are 100gr lighter than the Wisecos.
>
> On the photos the bigger shaped piston is the Mahle one.
>
> But it is very fragil. The skirt is very thin and to compensate for piston
> slap the skirt is longer than on the Wisecos.
>
> Price for one Piston was 250?.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10
> *An:* tr4racing at googlemail.com
> *Cc:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had.
> I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but
> without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3
> pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came
> with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?
>
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  7 00:15:30 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 08:15:30 +0200
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
In-Reply-To: <2023172977.82805.1633574595259@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CABFvdWuXt4=jaCpDBH9YNWiBGCVyV3CDbTT=eN=FhufHHiqKXA@mail.gmail.com>
 <003401d7baed$b485ebd0$1d91c370$@gmail.com>
 <2023172977.82805.1633574595259@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d7bb42$bb0c9a80$3125cf80$@gmail.com>

Hi Dave,

 

they don?t have a part number, but can be ordered here:

https://wahl-spezialkolben.de/en/

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net> 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021 04:43
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Betreff: Re: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Hi Chris, 

Thanks for sharing the piston info and photos.  Very good to know.  

Do the Mahle pistons have a part number?  Can they be ordered? 

Just wondering. 

Dave 

On 10/06/2021 1:06 PM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.

 

And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

 

 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com>  <tr4racing at gmail.com <mailto:tr4racing at gmail.com> > 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
An: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com <mailto:rkramer56 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: AW: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

 

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will work. 

 

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.

 

 

https://www.line2linecoatings.com/

 


Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)


For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.


 

 

 

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.


ADVANTAGES:


*	Restores and Holds Clearances




Bob Kramer

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Thu Oct  7 14:23:59 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 06:23:59 +1000
Subject: [Fot] abradable coatings
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i have had numerous sets of pistons coated/recoated for competition use.
typically, my local vendor of such services says he wont add more than
0.002"  so in that case, you are limited with what you can 'recondition"
using that system. It is described as "moly-teflon"

the coatings i've used will not 'fill in" deep scratches etc so the
machined finish on the piston needs to be near-perfect

when used on supercharger rotors, it is <0.001" thick

i have no personal experiences with the brand listed

Terry



On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 6:28 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
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>
> *Von:* tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
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>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control? (Armor CC?)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
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> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
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>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC? for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 14:26:19 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:26:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Another Kastner car
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVazabH3c9=bh4wHrY5G=QWwXBvd9AW-iEBtU7vqrBFyAw@mail.gmail.com>

I never knew that Kas had an F5000 car.

mike h

>From this week's Haggerty newsletter
10 pedigreed open-wheel racers at American Speed Festival 20211971 Lola T192
Cameron Neveu

Ego and racing are inextricably linked?and they don?t honor the divides of
racing series and regulatory bodies, either. Case in point: the Questor
Grand Prix held at Ontario Speedway in California, a shoot-out of sorts
between Formula 1 and Formula 5000 cars of the era. R.W. ?Kas? Kastner?he
of Team Nissan GTP fame?bought this Lola T192 from Chicago-area distributor
Carl Hass, but before he managed to put an engine in the rolling chassis,
Hass was back on the phone. Would Kastner loan Hass the car so that Al
Unser could challenge the F5000 boys in California? On the condition that
Hass supplied and installed the engine (and left it in the car when Unser
was done with the race), Kastner said yes.
Cameron Neveu

Unser didn?t perform very well at Ontario Speedway, but the 1400-pound,
monocoque racer and its Weber-crowned Chevy 305 have earned its current
owner, Mead Korwin, plenty of on-track grins. Leaning back in a folding
camping chair, wearing Columbia boots and a denim short-sleeve shirt,
Korwin pronounces it: ?Remarkably forgiving. It really is. It?s all torque?
It kinda grunts its way out of the corner, you don?t really have to rev it.

?Donohue called this model one of the best natural-handling race cars he
ever drove.?


Copyright Haggerty Newsletter

Author:

Grace Houghton <https://www.hagerty.com/media/author/grace-houghton/>
06 October 2021
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From bownes at seiri.com  Thu Oct  7 16:57:49 2021
From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 18:57:49 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Another Kastner car
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVazabH3c9=bh4wHrY5G=QWwXBvd9AW-iEBtU7vqrBFyAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO0FjVazabH3c9=bh4wHrY5G=QWwXBvd9AW-iEBtU7vqrBFyAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <645C8988-1AD5-419D-9313-C3C4B05AE861@seiri.com>


If only it had a Rover V8!

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 16:27, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I never knew that Kas had an F5000 car.
> 
> mike h
> 
> From this week's Haggerty newsletter
> 10 pedigreed open-wheel racers at American Speed Festival 2021
> 1971 Lola T192
> Cameron Neveu
> Ego and racing are inextricably linked?and they don?t honor the divides of racing series and regulatory bodies, either. Case in point: the Questor Grand Prix held at Ontario Speedway in California, a shoot-out of sorts between Formula 1 and Formula 5000 cars of the era. R.W. ?Kas? Kastner?he of Team Nissan GTP fame?bought this Lola T192 from Chicago-area distributor Carl Hass, but before he managed to put an engine in the rolling chassis, Hass was back on the phone. Would Kastner loan Hass the car so that Al Unser could challenge the F5000 boys in California? On the condition that Hass supplied and installed the engine (and left it in the car when Unser was done with the race), Kastner said yes.
> Cameron Neveu
> Unser didn?t perform very well at Ontario Speedway, but the 1400-pound, monocoque racer and its Weber-crowned Chevy 305 have earned its current owner, Mead Korwin, plenty of on-track grins. Leaning back in a folding camping chair, wearing Columbia boots and a denim short-sleeve shirt, Korwin pronounces it: ?Remarkably forgiving. It really is. It?s all torque? It kinda grunts its way out of the corner, you don?t really have to rev it.
> ?Donohue called this model one of the best natural-handling race cars he ever drove.?
> 
> Copyright Haggerty Newsletter
> Author:
> Grace Houghton
> 06 October 2021
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 17:59:25 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:59:25 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Another Kastner car
In-Reply-To: <645C8988-1AD5-419D-9313-C3C4B05AE861@seiri.com>
References: <645C8988-1AD5-419D-9313-C3C4B05AE861@seiri.com>
Message-ID: <7A0EB52D-62BC-46B3-A70F-FA3D209CE3DF@gmail.com>

Here?s a picture from back when they were running both the Trans Am car and the Lola.  A far cry from how it is done today!



Chuck

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> If only it had a Rover V8!
> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2021, at 16:27, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> I never knew that Kas had an F5000 car.
>> 
>> mike h
>> 
>> From this week's Haggerty newsletter
>> 10 pedigreed open-wheel racers at American Speed Festival 2021
>> 1971 Lola T192
>> Cameron Neveu
>> Ego and racing are inextricably linked?and they don?t honor the divides of racing series and regulatory bodies, either. Case in point: the Questor Grand Prix held at Ontario Speedway in California, a shoot-out of sorts between Formula 1 and Formula 5000 cars of the era. R.W. ?Kas? Kastner?he of Team Nissan GTP fame?bought this Lola T192 from Chicago-area distributor Carl Hass, but before he managed to put an engine in the rolling chassis, Hass was back on the phone. Would Kastner loan Hass the car so that Al Unser could challenge the F5000 boys in California? On the condition that Hass supplied and installed the engine (and left it in the car when Unser was done with the race), Kastner said yes.
>> Cameron Neveu
>> Unser didn?t perform very well at Ontario Speedway, but the 1400-pound, monocoque racer and its Weber-crowned Chevy 305 have earned its current owner, Mead Korwin, plenty of on-track grins. Leaning back in a folding camping chair, wearing Columbia boots and a denim short-sleeve shirt, Korwin pronounces it: ?Remarkably forgiving. It really is. It?s all torque? It kinda grunts its way out of the corner, you don?t really have to rev it.
>> ?Donohue called this model one of the best natural-handling race cars he ever drove.?
>> 
>> Copyright Haggerty Newsletter
>> Author:
>> Grace Houghton
>> 06 October 2021
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From rick.parent at att.net  Sat Oct  9 11:48:33 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 17:48:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Syncro's
References: <1422018240.1380873.1633801713057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1422018240.1380873.1633801713057@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings to all in Triumph land.
I have one set of sample Sycro's for the GT6 and Spit transmissions now, they will not fit the early non syncro first gear Spit box. I need a racer to test them in the next 2 weeks, this offer is for Racers only and not street car owners. To qualify you must be a long time Spit racer and mechanic so I can get some experienced feedback. The cash outlay is significant so I can not have a fail on the feedback. Once these have been properly tested I will make an order and will sell them to anyone who has an interest. The big Triumph syncro's will be next up, stay tuned.
I need an NOS complete slider assembly (1-2nd or 3-4th), (any) gear and syncro for the TR4-6 to build tooling for the forged steel, heat treated with a carbon friction surface big Triumph syncro's. Does anyone have these parts and be will to part with them? Thanks.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 11 07:10:26 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 13:10:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.

PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)<https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>


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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 11 08:53:35 2021
From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>

 unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed
    On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.? Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.?
PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)


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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 11 09:00:02 2021
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:00:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
 <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1692455237.800487.1633964402393@mail.yahoo.com>

I?ve been thinking that maybe the Apple AirTags might be a great way to track race car and trailer as a theft recovery device; might stick one on the frame somewhere:
Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves?

  
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Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves
 
By Barry Collins
 
Could an Apple AirTag help you track down a lost or stolen car? Read the results of this week-long road test
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Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Monday, October 11, 2021, 10:53 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed
    On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.? Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.?
PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)


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From paulricco at att.net  Mon Oct 11 09:10:17 2021
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 10:10:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <14D6F5D4-61A6-4AE5-8528-84FF44A6D5AD@att.net>

If they are really determined they can steal anything. However, there are things that make them move on to someone else?s stuff that is an easier target. This is the only tongue lock we will use. It is called The Vault. Made in the us. Very heavy gauge steal. Lock aimed down so it is hard to work. Designed to be hard to pry. Expensive in the world of locks. But a very good deterrent. 

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 9:54 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed
> 
> On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes. 
> 
> PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)
> 
> 
> Marty
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Mon Oct 11 09:13:05 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:13:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FW: Billy Currington - Good Directions and Turnip Greens -
 YouTube TR4A
Message-ID: <e98f5a987ad79ff51e64b03749a7ab23748c1b21@webmail>

One of my favorite songs found this recently ....

	-----------------------------------------From: "Tom Householder" 

To: "Tom Householder"
Cc: 
Sent: Monday October 11 2021 10:56:47AM
Subject: Billy Currington - Good Directions and Turnip Greens -
YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i7ciBgzbYI
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From dolan.char at gmail.com  Mon Oct 11 09:13:18 2021
From: dolan.char at gmail.com (Charlie Dolan)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:13:18 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <1692455237.800487.1633964402393@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <BL0PR02MB451481FF282A728BCE55C0D7BAB59@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
 <1741528272.1790510.1633964015094@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1692455237.800487.1633964402393@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BL0PR04MB509267CD2752996EE7D53A8FA1B59@BL0PR04MB5092.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Airtags are great but limited in their utility. You?ll need to act very quickly to get your vehicle back before the tracker is disabled by the thief.

They have ?anti-stalking? features built into them which make it very easy for the perpetrator to identify that an AirTag is on the vehicle and disable it.

What to do if you find an AirTag or get an alert that an AirTag is with you - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212227>

Apple AirTag has built-in anti-stalking tech | Popular Science (popsci.com)<https://www.popsci.com/story/technology/apple-airtag-anti-stalking-privacy-tech/>

Charlie

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, October 11, 2021 at 11:00 AM
To: ralph hansen <quikrx at yahoo.com>, FOT <fot at autox.team.net>, marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
I?ve been thinking that maybe the Apple AirTags might be a great way to track race car and trailer as a theft recovery device; might stick one on the frame somewhere:

Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves<https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2021/05/15/apple-airtag-a-brilliant-car-tracker-as-this-road-test-proves/amp/>


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[X]
Apple AirTag: A Brilliant Car Tracker, As This Road Test Proves

By Barry Collins

Could an Apple AirTag help you track down a lost or stolen car? Read the results of this week-long road test


Dave Gott


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On Monday, October 11, 2021, 10:53 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed

On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.

PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)<https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>


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Subject: [Fot] FW: Billy Currington - Good Directions and Turnip Greens -
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Mon Oct 11 09:18:31 2021
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:18:31 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
In-Reply-To: <14D6F5D4-61A6-4AE5-8528-84FF44A6D5AD@att.net>
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Painting your name / ID of some sort on the roof helps authorities find your stuff from the air and LoJack or similar is also useful .


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? If they are really determined they can steal anything. However, there are things that make them move on to someone else?s stuff that is an easier target. This is the only tongue lock we will use. It is called The Vault. Made in the us. Very heavy gauge steal. Lock aimed down so it is hard to work. Designed to be hard to pry. Expensive in the world of locks. But a very good deterrent.

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2021, at 9:54 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
unfortunately these days everybody and everything has a target on it - trailer tongue locks, alarms, blocking them in such a way they can't just be hooked and gone all help, but, if someone wants it, they'll garb it no matter what - this country is going to the dogs so, be the bigger dog as needed

On Monday, October 11, 2021, 08:11:08 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes.

PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com)<https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>


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From levibud at icloud.com  Mon Oct 11 09:39:34 2021
From: levibud at icloud.com (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 09:39:34 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Alarms
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I have a portable hidden GPS device that I?ve used in my trailer, my RV, and for one layer of security driving the TR6 to VTR and back this year. I slept a lot better knowing that the GPS would help find it if the TR6 got scooped up and hauled off. Finding it is important if the prevention devices don?t work. 

I?m also going to have a big #3 painted on the top of my trailer so the police might see it from above and the thieves probably won?t figure out it?s there. Fun to at least THINK it might actually work to recover it.

Bud




> On Oct 11, 2021, at 7:10 AM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I saw where ANOTHER trailer and race car got stolen by a dirtbag this morning. FWIW I recently installed a trailer alarm system on my enclosed trailer.  Not cheap at around $600 but I figure cheaper than replacing my stuff. It was a pretty painless install even for me. It has door sensors and a motion sensor. If it is triggered an alarm goes off, the lights start flashing and it applies the trailer brakes. 
> 
> PTS-2Plus Trailer Alarm-PTS-2 Plus (trailer-alarms.com) <https://www.trailer-alarms.com/PTS-2Plus-Trailer-Alarm_p_119.html>
> 
> 
> Marty
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Mon Oct 11 09:42:35 2021
From: kknight at klaenv.com (kknight at klaenv.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 08:42:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trailer Tracker
Message-ID: <001101d7beb6$9da41320$d8ec3960$@klaenv.com>

A company that has supported VARA is www.geoskyalert.com
<http://www.geoskyalert.com>   and Ron sells tracking devices for trailers.


 

A great lock, like the Altorlock or similar, where you store and keeping an
eye on the beast is as good as it gets.  Those that steal have always, and
will always, be with us. 

 

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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon Oct 11 13:52:14 2021
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 12:52:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
Message-ID: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI <https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI>

John Linney
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Mon Oct 11 16:08:33 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:08:33 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
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Curious as to the camera brand/type on Bill Babcock's #222 car.  anyone?

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Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI

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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon Oct 11 16:20:23 2021
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:20:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR03MB4551487563B7675C4D56AF80E6B59@BYAPR03MB4551.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
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It?s an Insta 360 ONE R, 360 degree camera. The quality isn?t great, but the versatility of being able to point it anywhere after the event is priceless.

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:08 PM, LEE FOLLANSBEE <65356sc at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Curious as to the camera brand/type on Bill Babcock's #222 car.  anyone?
> 
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:52 PM
> To: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Cc: Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com>
> Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
>  
> 
> I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and
>  SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.
> 
> In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy
>  of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.
> 
> 
> https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI <https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI>
> 
> 
> John Linney
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Mon Oct 11 16:27:34 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:27:34 +0000
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <4002E18E-AD8B-47FC-895A-950C8871543A@linneyweb.com>
References: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
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very cool.  quality looks good in the video.

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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:20 PM
To: LEE FOLLANSBEE <65356sc at msn.com>
Cc: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>; Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video

It?s an Insta 360 ONE R, 360 degree camera. The quality isn?t great, but the versatility of being able to point it anywhere after the event is priceless.

On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:08 PM, LEE FOLLANSBEE <65356sc at msn.com<mailto:65356sc at msn.com>> wrote:

Curious as to the camera brand/type on Bill Babcock's #222 car.  anyone?

________________________________
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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:52 PM
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Cc: Ben Cissell <ben at svra.com<mailto:ben at svra.com>>
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Oct 11 19:54:43 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:54:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
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Hi John, may we share the link to this video on social media and our own websites. 
Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 12:52 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.
> 
> In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.
> 
> https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI <https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI>
> 
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> https://classicmotorfilms.com <https://classicmotorfilms.com/>
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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon Oct 11 19:58:51 2021
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:58:51 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
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Please do Bill. The more the merrier. Also feel free to embed it. 

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi John, may we share the link to this video on social media and our own websites. 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 12:52 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.
>> 
>> In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI
>> 
>> John Linney
>> Classic Motor Films
>> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>> 
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Oct 12 10:08:18 2021
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 12:08:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video
In-Reply-To: <73CACE39-F93D-420F-95CD-85CAF36DF91D@linneyweb.com>
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Enjoyed that, thanks, terrific editing telling the story.

 

Paul

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Linney via
Fot
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:52 PM
To: Fot
Cc: Ben Cissell
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Video

 


I'm proud to share this year's Kastner Cup video. It wouldn't have been
possible without a lot of help. There were 14 cars that shared footage and
SVRA's Ben Cissell who provided aerial and trackside shots. Cregg Cowan and
Shawn Frank provided additional angles along with much help and support.

 

In putting this together, everything happens in real-time, and there were a
lot of moments worthy of this great event. I hope you all enjoy it.





https://youtu.be/8hzu_QfpnJI





John Linney

Classic Motor Films

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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 12 14:20:33 2021
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (JOHN DAVIES)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 21:20:33 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 239
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Wow, great race, great video!? Would that I'd been there!
Next year, in America!

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 14:52:19 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:52:19 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 239
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Kas? Candy Box Vitesse will be running the Kastner Cup. 

Joe Alexander
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> On Oct 12, 2021, at 3:31 PM, JOHN DAVIES via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> ?Wow, great race, great video!  Would that I'd been there! 
> Next year, in America!
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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 15:10:00 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:10:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 239
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Yes. Yes it will be at the Kastner Cup in 2022.

It will also be racing this fall at the VRG Turkey Bowl.
[image: PXL_20211012_175808788.jpg]

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:56 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Kas? Candy Box Vitesse will be running the Kastner Cup.
>
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
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> On Oct 12, 2021, at 3:31 PM, JOHN DAVIES via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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From timmmurphh at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 15:19:42 2021
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 16:19:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Octoberfest
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Anybody else going to Blackhawk this weekend. Ryan and I will be there with
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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue Oct 12 15:26:03 2021
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:26:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 239
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cool. Who owns it now?  I?ll be at the Turkey Bowl.

On Oct 12, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Yes. Yes it will be at the Kastner Cup in 2022. 

It will also be racing this fall at the VRG Turkey Bowl. 
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:56 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Kas? Candy Box Vitesse will be running the Kastner Cup. 

Joe Alexander
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Oct 13 21:16:17 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 22:16:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Octoberfest
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Yes! 
Friendly Ghost Racing is in the final stages of preparation. (For the race at Blackhawk Farms this weekend. We will be there. See candid shop photo for said planned endeavor. 
Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
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> On Oct 12, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Tim Murphy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 00:19:09 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 23:19:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
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I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 

I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 



Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 15 03:15:21 2021
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (john.r.davies at btinternet.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 10:15:21 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 104, Issue 243
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For Bill Babcock,
Bill I watched this year's Kastner Cup on video, from 6000 miles away, and
enjoyed in particular Peyote, for it's highly modified appearance as well as
it and tour performance!

The car is well known in the US, but not here in the UK.   I, for one, would
love to know more about it, and its many mods.   Has a description ben
published anywhere?   If not, would you write one, please?

Best wishes,
John Davies
(Much modified, but nothing like Peyote, Vitesse SofS)

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From walje at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 15 08:42:10 2021
From: walje at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS WALJE)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:42:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
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Congratulations Bill, well deserved. 


Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done. The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at COTA

Look forward to seeing 001 on the track

Regards

Dennis WALJE
68 GT6 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
> 
> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
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From emanteno at comcast.net  Fri Oct 15 08:54:01 2021
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:54:01 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
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On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 9:47 AM DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Congratulations Bill, well deserved.
>
>
> Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor
> Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done.
> The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at
> COTA
>
> The same Ambro was at Edmond, OK for the Vintage Triumph Register National
Convention last month. Beautiful car. I can't remember the
owner/driver's name but he has extensive racing plans for the car and he
lives in Texas, so COTA is a very real possibility.

Irv Korey
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 08:57:37 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:57:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
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It may beat COTA.

It also may be at the next KastnerCup.

Potentially, there could be FOUR AMBROS at the next Kastner Cup.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:47 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Congratulations Bill, well deserved. 
> 
> 
> Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done. The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at COTA
> 
> Look forward to seeing 001 on the track
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dennis WALJE
> 68 GT6 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>> 
>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Babcock
>> Beach Bum
>> bill at ponostyle.com
>> https://www.Ponostyle.com
>> 
>> <IMG_5752.jpg>
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 11:02:56 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 10:02:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <614C2B4D-0DE8-4755-8A7C-EF89C453207F@gmail.com>
References: <2C0D28A2-5DEF-458D-AEE6-A2EFF9557278@sbcglobal.net>
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Wow, that?s a really tall roll bar hoop, is he perhaps not wanting to damage his hat in a rollover?? And pipe insulation for the padding, after all that beautiful work? Gorgeous car, makes me want to get busy-er on mine. 

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may beat COTA.
> 
> It also may be at the next KastnerCup.
> 
> Potentially, there could be FOUR AMBROS at the next Kastner Cup.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:47 AM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Congratulations Bill, well deserved. 
>> 
>> 
>> Amaro update-I recently sighted a magnificent bright orange Ambro at Motor Sport Ranch in Cresson, Texas. The car was having some alignment work done. The next day it was gone before I Could meet the owner. Hope it shows up at COTA
>> 
>> Look forward to seeing 001 on the track
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Dennis WALJE
>> 68 GT6 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>>> 
>>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill Babcock
>>> Beach Bum
>>> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com>
>>> https://www.Ponostyle.com
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From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Oct 15 16:27:53 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 17:27:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
Message-ID: <804926D0-1C3D-4E75-8F9B-6034BB45EFA0@multivintage.com>

The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.

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Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars

Sent from my iPhone

From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 16:47:45 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 15:47:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
In-Reply-To: <804926D0-1C3D-4E75-8F9B-6034BB45EFA0@multivintage.com>
References: <804926D0-1C3D-4E75-8F9B-6034BB45EFA0@multivintage.com>
Message-ID: <42ED697C-3B99-4572-A6AA-76CD6C1A568F@gmail.com>

Where?s the bag of Culver?s?

Chuck

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.
> 
> <image.jpg>
> 
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
> 
> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
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From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Oct 15 17:03:56 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:03:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
In-Reply-To: <42ED697C-3B99-4572-A6AA-76CD6C1A568F@gmail.com>
References: <42ED697C-3B99-4572-A6AA-76CD6C1A568F@gmail.com>
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We are way to sophisticated for Culver?s .
Fall race weekends in Wisconsin are not limited to. 
Smoked fish
Slow cooked bratwurst 
Wine and cheese
Beer

Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969Triumph GT6+ tacecars

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 5:47 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?Where?s the bag of Culver?s?
> 
> Chuck
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.
>> 
>> <image.jpg>
>> 
>> Jason Ostrowski 
>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
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>> 
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 17:44:55 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 16:44:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Farms at sundown
In-Reply-To: <1877A5CC-2064-44D4-8B5B-9E4C8F8E863F@multivintage.com>
References: <1877A5CC-2064-44D4-8B5B-9E4C8F8E863F@multivintage.com>
Message-ID: <5C801734-A6AE-43EB-B458-CCEF898CF778@gmail.com>

Sounds awesome!

Thanks,

Chuck

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com> wrote:
> 
> ?We are way to sophisticated for Culver?s .
> Fall race weekends in Wisconsin are not limited to. 
> Smoked fish
> Slow cooked bratwurst 
> Wine and cheese
> Beer
> 
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969Triumph GT6+ tacecars
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 5:47 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Where?s the bag of Culver?s?
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?The Sun is going down and we have brought these 3 Triumph cars to the Outside of turn 4.
>>> 
>>> <image.jpg>
>>> 
>>> Jason Ostrowski 
>>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
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>>> 
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 15 19:00:11 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 01:00:11 +0000
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB451455FCA15CFBB92CF16FD9BABA9@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?  Dang that looks fun.

Marty
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 19:27:42 2021
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 21:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?  Dang that looks fun.
> 
> Marty
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 15 19:34:15 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 01:34:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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750 miles from my driveway. Triumphs would look really nice on that track. ?

Marty

________________________________
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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 9:27 PM
To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] New Racetrack

Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?  Dang that looks fun.

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From david.c.cutter at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 22:46:49 2021
From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 07:46:49 +0300
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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Added it to the vintage racing map!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1vwMVKme7CP38Lw-1MOhdHtvpBMTSCdL-&usp=sharing

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:37 AM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> 750 miles from my driveway. Triumphs would look really nice on that track.
> ?
>
> Marty
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 15, 2021 9:27 PM
> *To:* marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] New Racetrack
>
> Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:00 PM, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> Anybody seen the track layout for the new Ozarks International Raceway?
> Dang that looks fun.
>
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From rpierce141 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 07:11:22 2021
From: rpierce141 at gmail.com (Rod Pierce)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:11:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Camber Limiter
Message-ID: <CAELLCgfFzmeQEJd=mSN0K3W4_O+jtSEngvqtGodBYsRL+npORA@mail.gmail.com>

I acquired this awhile ago and I am looking for images/diagrams and advice
on how to install it.  The car already has the cutouts so I just need info
on the best way to connect it.

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From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 16 07:14:02 2021
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 13:14:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] New Racetrack
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 Looks like a fun place for a long vacation.

    On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 12:47:45 AM EDT, David Cutter via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Added it to the vintage racing map!
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1vwMVKme7CP38Lw-1MOhdHtvpBMTSCdL-&usp=sharing

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:37 AM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

750 miles from my driveway. Triumphs would look really nice on that track. ?
Marty
From: Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com>
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To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] New Racetrack?Just looked up their Facebook page. That does look like fun!

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?Anybody seen the track layout for the new?Ozarks International Raceway?? Dang that looks fun.
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 08:15:38 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 07:15:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <424676818.58044.1634324630167@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <791FBC4A-0A7E-4F2C-9787-160367544D3A@ponostyle.com>
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Thanks so much Curt, I?m reworking the office at my shop to better display memorabilia which I have scattered between home, shop, random boxes, and junk drawers. This plaque was the inspiration for that effort. It was an extraordinarily special event for me, the capstone of my time driving Peyote, and an excellent celebration of Kas, who was one of my heroes.

I have a huge amount of historical data and technical information about Peyote that I plan to pull together in useful form for its current owner. It has an amazing history as one might expect in a car that has competed with unexpected success over a 62-year period. I?ll share a synopsis with our group of the technical information that made a car that is essentially a not-particularly-light, not very powerful, rebodied TR3 so competitive over such a long period. 

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Curt Johnston <curt.johnston at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill, 
> 
> I just thought we should do something for you to recognize your career and sportsmanship.  So I created this new category of award that we will use going forward.  Our sport isn't all about winning, its how you compete as well.  Thanks!
> 
> Curt Johnston
>> On 10/14/2021 11:19 PM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>> 
>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Babcock
>> Beach Bum 
>> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com> 
>> https://www.Ponostyle.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________ 
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 17:06:40 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 16:06:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Pleasant surprise
In-Reply-To: <2C56910F-B037-4410-8EAE-9686C2FFD69A@gmail.com>
References: <2C56910F-B037-4410-8EAE-9686C2FFD69A@gmail.com>
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Well deserved Bill!

Chuck

> On Oct 16, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Bill Babcock via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks so much Curt, I?m reworking the office at my shop to better display memorabilia which I have scattered between home, shop, random boxes, and junk drawers. This plaque was the inspiration for that effort. It was an extraordinarily special event for me, the capstone of my time driving Peyote, and an excellent celebration of Kas, who was one of my heroes.
> 
> I have a huge amount of historical data and technical information about Peyote that I plan to pull together in useful form for its current owner. It has an amazing history as one might expect in a car that has competed with unexpected success over a 62-year period. I?ll share a synopsis with our group of the technical information that made a car that is essentially a not-particularly-light, not very powerful, rebodied TR3 so competitive over such a long period. 
> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Curt Johnston <curt.johnston at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill, 
>>> 
>>> I just thought we should do something for you to recognize your career and sportsmanship.  So I created this new category of award that we will use going forward.  Our sport isn't all about winning, its how you compete as well.  Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Curt Johnston
>>> On 10/14/2021 11:19 PM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I got a nice surprise today, a trophy plaque (the middle one) from the Kastner Cup race for "sportsmanship during competition", undoubtedly for giving back the position I gained in the second Triumph race with some chicane chicanery (I cut the chicane on the first lap to avoid a crash) at the end of the race. I appreciate the sentiment, it's a fine way to finish my long run with Peyote, my faithful and amazing race car for 22 great years. Thanks folks. 
>>> 
>>> I?ve started working on the Ambro 001 I bought from Doug Karon. I think it will take me about a year to build it the way I want. I?ll probably race it a few times and then sell it to someone who will drive the wheels off it, as Will Hart, the young racer I sold Peyote to has been doing with Peyote. I think a few more races and he?ll be beating my best times at our West Coast tracks.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill Babcock
>>> Beach Bum 
>>> bill at ponostyle.com 
>>> https://www.Ponostyle.com 
>>> 
>>> <IMG_5752.jpg>
>>> 
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Oct 20 02:36:31 2021
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 10:36:31 +0200
Subject: [Fot] AE Hepolite "Powermax" pistons
Message-ID: <000601d7c58d$955ed640$c01c82c0$@camoletti.ch>

Amici, does anyone remember the then famous AE Hepolite "Powermax" pistons ?

They were I believe the ones to have for competition use in the 60s/70s.

I have some and consider using them at some point. 

I have 4 in 87mm STD size, and 4 in 87mm+.030'' (but cut just under the pin
hole to lighten them).

Part numbers engraved on the crown (and casted inside) are 18510 or 18510A.

They weigh around 470 grams each (naked, no rings or pins).

It seems those Powermax pistons had a special die casting process, to bring
them close to the forged pistons in terms of resistance (not sure about
this, as it may have been introduced during the production life).

Is it a good idea to use those (maybe with a coating) vs modern pistons ?

Thank your for your comments !

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti

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From Dave at microworks.net  Thu Oct 21 16:56:55 2021
From: Dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 15:56:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Greetings all
Message-ID: <735A05A60CF77F41BDE2723965DAFA6507369C27E5B8@mainserver>

I first joined FOT back in July of 2002 but missed the announcement earlier this year about confirming you still wanted to remain on the list so I got purged.  Henry just added me back.

I have Bob Schaller's old car that I bought from his widow in July of 1996 after Bob died the previous month. Had a Car fire with it in 2004 andonly got it running again this past July.  Not going to "race" the car anymore but it will do a few Track Days every year (I instruct most weekends from Oct to May).  Had it up at Triumphest this past weekend. Lyman pulled the Baja TR3 from the Petersen last week and we parked together for the Funcours.

Lyman has asked me to drive the Baja TR3 in the Kastner this next year so the Car is being switched from its off Road config to a Road Race setup

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From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 22 05:55:37 2021
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 12:55:37 +0100
Subject: [Fot] A beautiful battle | 2021 Ronnie Hoare Trophy full race |
 78th Members' Meeting - YouTube
Message-ID: <D8DC705D-5DD2-4630-9006-FF1998403252@btinternet.com>

Dear all,

The full race (Ronnie Hoare Trophy) that saw the Sebring TR4 running high up?

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ksTpGFNEk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ksTpGFNEk>

Enjoy.

Keith
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 25 12:42:25 2021
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 18:42:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Email Address for Greg Solow
References: <1107271637.859709.1635187345166.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1107271637.859709.1635187345166@mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have a current email address for Greg Solow at The Engine Room in California?? I know he used to be on the FOT list, but not sure if he still is or not.? Thanks.
Jack
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 25 12:59:48 2021
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 18:59:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Email Address Request
References: <1134040650.865110.1635188388022.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I got some quick responses to my request for Greg Solow's email address.? Thanks.
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 25 13:08:17 2021
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:08:17 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Email Address for Greg Solow
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References: <1107271637.859709.1635187345166.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1107271637.859709.1635187345166@mail.yahoo.com>
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On 10/25/21 11:42 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote:
> Does anyone have a current email address for Greg Solow at The Engine 
> Room in California?? I know he used to be on the FOT list, but not 
> sure if he still is or not.? Thanks.

Greg Solow <gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com>

TeriAnn

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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 29 06:55:30 2021
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:55:30 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Brooklands windscreen repro to sell
Message-ID: <77fb4dd3-0011-7ae4-6e0b-11fda3b34e7a@earthlink.net>

I have a never mounted Brooklands windscreen reproduction to sell.? Just like what you could buy from Moss but mine has been "attic aged".
Blow off the dust, Windex the glass and it's ready to mount.? You can have mine for $50 plus the $25 that both USPS and UPS say it costs to send it to you.? here's a link to see what it is ?https://mossmotors.com/racing-screen
My TR3 has had its twin mounted for 34 years this year.
?
Mike Jackson
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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 29 09:09:52 2021
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (grandwazoo at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 11:09:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FWD: Re:  Brooklands windscreen repro sold
Message-ID: <c31b7b35-8590-4f50-89a7-1d1e1d8b2a98@Mikes-iPhone-11>


Well. That didn?t take long

Sold

Mike

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 10:42 AM Mike Jackson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net (mailto:fot at autox.team.net)> wrote:

I have a never mounted Brooklands windscreen reproduction to sell. Just like what you could buy from Moss but mine has been "attic aged".

Blow off the dust, Windex the glass and it's ready to mount. You can have mine for $50 plus the $25 that both USPS and UPS say it costs to send it to you. here's a link to see what it is https://mossmotors.com/racing-screen

My TR3 has had its twin mounted for 34 years this year.

Mike Jackson

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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 29 13:37:31 2021
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 19:37:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 exhaust valve question
References: <1522366636.1529172.1635536251019.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1522366636.1529172.1635536251019@mail.yahoo.com>

Amici,
I recently had a (catastrophic)?failure in my engine that involved valve and piston interference. ?I?m using the gas flowed high performance stock size exhaust?valves that Moss Europe sells. ?Have any of you had any experience with these valves, good or bad? ?Trying to rule out a bad part versus something else. ? The ?penny? broke off the ?stick? but I?m not sure if that caused the issue, or an issue caused that. ? The stem was not bent? but is now just a stem! ?Flows just a little too well now!
Any experiences with those valves? ?(HRG rules require stock size valves)
Thanks,Dave Gott


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