From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sat May 1 15:15:21 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 21:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Early TR Starters In-Reply-To: <206345383.185794.1619892426412@mail.yahoo.com> References: <206345383.185794.1619892426412.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <206345383.185794.1619892426412@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <786875186.194505.1619903722258@mail.yahoo.com> I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it bounced back.? I've had this problem before.? So excuse the extra emails, but I'm sending it this time with 1 picture.? If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. Jack Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used up to VIN 50,000?? I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing! Attached are some pictures.? As you can see, part of the bendix is still on the shaft.? There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding it on.? Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaft? Many thanks. Jack PS.? If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a big help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DSC_0001.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 3033741 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sat May 1 15:15:51 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 21:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Picture #2 References: <211395670.182828.1619903751155.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <211395670.182828.1619903751155@mail.yahoo.com> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When you connect it to a battery it turns over just fine, so I know it works. I salvaged it off a very early wrecked TR going to the scrape yard many decades ago. Take it off my hands please! Ken -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreykelley at charter.net Sat May 1 17:20:45 2021 From: jeffreykelley at charter.net (jeffreykelley at charter.net) Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 23:20:45 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Early TR Starters Message-ID: ? Attached is the starter section of the TR Service manual. In the earliest starters they used a left hand threaded nut as the locating nut (pictured in Fig. 19-G) and it was replaced in later models with a locating washer held in place by a Circlip. The two different armatures are interchangeable as a unit. It is hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like you have the later design and the clip has been removed. If this is true then it should slide apart giving you access to the rubber shock bushing which probably needs to be changed. Jeff Kelley On May 1, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: ? I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it bounced back. I've had this problem before. So excuse the extra emails, but I'm sending it this time with 1 picture. If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. Jack Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used up to VIN 50,000? I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing! Attached are some pictures. As you can see, part of the bendix is still on the shaft. There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding it on. Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaft? Many thanks. Jack PS. If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a big help. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net [1]http://www.fot-racing.com [2] Donate: [3]http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] Archive: [5]http://autox.team.net/archive [6] [7]http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot [8] Unsubscribe/Manage: [9]http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net [10] Links: ------ [1] http://www.fot-racing.com [2] http://www.fot-racing.com [3] http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] http://www.team.net/donate.html [5] http://autox.team.net/archive [6] http://autox.team.net/archive [7] http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot [8] http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. > > Jack > > > Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used up to VIN 50,000? I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing! > > Attached are some pictures. As you can see, part of the bendix is still on the shaft. There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding it on. Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaft? > > Many thanks. > > Jack > > PS. 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Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link - https://ccfot.com/survey/ This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly appreciate everyone's cooperation. Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of stuff From rpierce141 at gmail.com Sun May 2 05:57:59 2021 From: rpierce141 at gmail.com (Rod Pierce) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 07:57:59 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. engine.jpg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Sun May 2 07:01:36 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 13:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <568577012.3506407.1619960496269@mail.yahoo.com> sorry to see - certainly looks like pre-ignition/detonation damage - timing too far advanced/bad or low octane gas/too lean (most likely from the looks of the pistons) Arias or Venolia for pistons and pins Carrillo for the rods? Total Seal Gapless rings if the bores are not too bad you might get away with pistons, bearings rings etc On Sunday, May 2, 2021, 07:01:36 AM CDT, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. ? engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sun May 2 08:35:13 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 14:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1398013048.1463255.1619966113337@mail.yahoo.com> Welcome Rod, looks like you got baptized into the cult of racing TRs...!That engine probably has more wrong with it than the obvious hole in the piston and 0-ring seal damage between #1 & 2.The 1st thing that you might do is to read all of the late, great Kas Ks books, all you could ever want to know about Spitfires. Re spare engine, just a few points-I would go with a conservative mild-spec engine to start with so you can get some seat time; doing a full-race spec will guarantee that you spend more time in the pits than on track.The rear gear ratio will determine RPM range, so if it has a 4.10 it'll be pretty "buzzy", = shorter service life. As mentioned, use good parts, rods, pistons, bearings, etc.Pay very close attention to clearances during assembly.Balance all recip & rotating. Crank thrust is weak area, several mods can be done.I advise accusump & oberg be fitted.Crack-check the crank on a regular basis, TBD by RPM range you run.Driveline-The gearbox is a POS.Use GT-6 gears for good ratio but it's still a POS.Driveshafts are VERY sensitive to imbalance, make sure it's done right. NOTE-Rear axles are more important than ANYTHING else on a racing Spitfire, when one breaks you're likely going over, and we have numerous members of that club right here. I wouldn't consider putting a Spit on track for serious competition w/stock axles, and the availability of replacements is limited. Also once all is done get the car on a good maintenance & inspection program. Just a few points to consider that may help maximize track time, hope it helps, others will jump in with more. Glen Efinger ps- attaching a copy of my checklist, don't know if it will work, if not email me if you want a copy -----Original Message----- From: Rod Pierce via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, May 2, 2021 7:57 am Subject: [Fot] Rebuild Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. ? engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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COMMENTS_________________ | | | 1 | safety pin fire bottle | | | | 2 | check leakdown | 1- __%, 2- __%, 3- __%, 4- __%, 5- __%, 6- __% | | | 3 | torque cylinder head | | | | 4 | valve lash spec- in- ___ ex- ___ H-C | | | | 5 | visual check valve springs, rockers | | | | 6 | valve cover gasket condition | | | | 7 | water pump pulley & hub condition | | | | 8 | alternator mounting & security | | | | 9 | drive belt condition & tension | | | | 10 | ignition distributor & low tension | | | | 11 | dist cap, coil & high tension circuit | | | | 12 | check ignition timing | | | | 13 | fuel lines secure | | | | 14 | air filters clean & secure | | | | 15 | check carb pistons free movement | | | | 16 | R&R carb pots/pistons & clean | | | | 17 | throttle linkage security & WOT | | | | 18 | front hubs for wear/adjustment | | | | 19 | steering linkage loose/bent | | | | 20 | visual a-arms, brackets, & chassis | | | | 21 | steering box/rack wear/looseness | | | | 22 | front discs scoring/wear/runout | | | | 23 | front calipers leaks/sticking | | | | 24 | R&R & dedust front pads | | | | 25 | check shock travel indicators | | | | 26 | nut & bolt check front suspension | | | | 27 | rear hubs wear/excessive play | | | | 27 | rear axle flange nut torque | | | | 29 | R&R rear drums scoring/wear | | | | 30 | rear wheel cylinders & hoses | | | | 31 | rear shoes inspect & adjust | | | | 32 | nut & bolt check rear suspension | | | | 33 | visual check driveline | | | | 34 | tighten driveshaft & halfshaft bolts | | | | 35 | visual check u-joints | | | | 36 | check engine oil level | | | | 37 | check brake fluid level | | | | 38 | check gearbox oil level | | | | 39 | check rear axle oil level | | | | 40 | check steering box/rack oil level | | | | 41 | change engine oil | | | | 42 | Inspect/change oil filter | | | | 43 | change gearbox oil | | | | 44 | change rear axle oil | | | | 45 | inspect/clean overdrive filter | | | | 46 | visual check clutch linkage | | | | 47 | check master cylinders for leakage | | | | 48 | tire condition | L/F- R/F- L/R- R/R- | | | 49 | lug nut torque | | | | 50 | Accusump system secure & charged | | | | 51 | mirrors clean & secure | | | | 52 | coolant level | | | | 53 | pressure check cooling system | | | | 54 | radiator cap condition | | | | 55 | coolant recovery system | | | | 56 | check/clean vent cans | | | | 57 | check instruments & switches | | | | 58 | charge battery & check security | | | | 59 | check fuel level | | | | | | | | 60 | fuel filler cap secure | | | | 61 | check security all bodywork | | | | 62 | check brake light | | | | 63 | tire pressure | | | | 64 | change brake fluid | | | | 65 | Check fuel cell foam | | | | + | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). > > I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). > > There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. > > Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. > > Thanks for you help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? engine.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Tue May 4 11:30:29 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 17:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: <700F16CD-ECAC-49B8-B2EC-C9F9E3097797@icloud.com> References: <700F16CD-ECAC-49B8-B2EC-C9F9E3097797@icloud.com> Message-ID: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot To: Rod Pierce Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know.I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. Bud On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. 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URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Tue May 4 12:28:43 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 13:28:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, GT6). Building a few of those motors in near future. Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > ? > ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Rod Pierce > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild > > The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know. > I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. > > Bud > >> On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). >> >> I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). >> >> There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. >> >> Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. >> >> Thanks for you help. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> engine.jpg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Tue May 4 12:59:11 2021 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 14:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Spit Happens Decals Message-ID: <722867696.1705929.1620154751233@myemail.cox.net> Several months ago I did a special run of ?Spit Happens? decals like the one in the attached photo. I have a few remaining in inventory in various colors that need to move since there is a limited shelf life. (The adhesive tends to stick to the backing material after a time making it more difficult to remove). These decals were offered for $15.00 and for the sake of this promotion, I am offering them for $10.00 while supplies last. That includes free shipping to anywhere inside the USA. Here is a list of what is left. I will reserve decals for anyone who sends me an email with a request. Yellow 3 Blue 3 Silver 1 White 1 Cheers, Joe Curry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Coordinating group buys or anything is never easy. >> >> Regards >> Bud >> >>> On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer > wrote: >>> >>> Good morning. >>> I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it. >>> >>> ~Steve >>> >>> >>>> On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hi Steve, >>>> >>>> What?s the status of the Kas stickers? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Bud >>>> >>>>> On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Bud, >>>>> >>>>> I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. >>>>> >>>>> If you use PayPal, please send $8 to steve at artwithcars.com >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> ~Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>> I would like four stickers please. >>>>>> Thanks for doing the stickers. >>>>>> Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? >>>>>> My address is: >>>>>> Bud Rolofson >>>>>> 220 Carr St. >>>>>> Lakewood Colorado. 80226 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Bud >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Commodore 64 >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear FOT, >>>>>>> As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. If you want one, please send me a private email to steve at artwithcars.com >>>>>>> No need to reply to the entire FOT group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next Kastner Cup to help pay expenses >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6? x 3.75? oval >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~Steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bownes at web9.com Tue May 4 14:35:18 2021 From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 16:35:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> Message-ID: Pretty sure it is applicable to the 1147 as well, seeing as how I lost countless engines to #3 rod bearings melting down and requesting exit via the side of the block. On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:33 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, > GT6). Building a few of those motors in near future. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > ? > ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important > mods to the oiling system. > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Rod Pierce > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild > > The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil > feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil > passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a > grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not > done. Ask me how I know. > I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. > > Bud > > On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first > experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end > well for my engine (see attachment). > > I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting > advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the > spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so > mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods > ,rings etc..). > > There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of > these before I am interested in your input. > > Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and > rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap > of my transmission or rearend. > > Thanks for you help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > engine.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Tue May 4 16:46:30 2021 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 16:46:30 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> Message-ID: <014a01d74137$54b47bc0$fe1d7340$@comcast.net> ?requesting exit via the side of the block? -or_ Rapid un-scheduled disassembly _or_ Non-linear, catastrophic mechanical exasperation From: Fot On Behalf Of robert bownes via Fot Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:35 PM To: Greg Blake Cc: FOT ; fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild Pretty sure it is applicable to the 1147 as well, seeing as how I lost countless engines to #3 rod bearings melting down and requesting exit via the side of the block. On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:33 PM Greg Blake via Fot > wrote: I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, GT6). Building a few of those motors in near future. Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot > wrote: ? ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Rod Pierce > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know. I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. Bud On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot > wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Very nice.I?ll?figure out where to put on?in my car before the Spring Sprints this weekend-?someplace where it will inspire not just myself,?but no doubt?anyone else?who sees it and knows the skinny. Thanks for doing it, Steve! Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 3:59 PM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: Got my Kas stickers today. Really nice. ?Great job Steve. Bud On May 4, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: You?re welcome! ?I didn?t realize how challenging it can be. I hope you like the stickers? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Cool. Thanks for doing the stickers. Coordinating group buys or anything is never easy. RegardsBud On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: Good morning.?I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it.? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Hi Steve, What?s the status of the Kas stickers? ThanksBud On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: Hi Bud, I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. If you use PayPal, please send $8 to?steve at artwithcars.com Thanks ~Steve On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: Hi Steve, I would like four stickers please. Thanks for doing the stickers. Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? My address is: Bud Rolofson 220 Carr St. Lakewood Colorado. 80226 Thanks Bud Sent from my Commodore 64 On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot wrote: Dear FOT, As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. ?If you want one, please send me a private email to steve at artwithcars.com No need to reply to the entire FOT group. ? $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next Kastner Cup to help pay expenses 6? x 3.75? oval ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Tue May 4 22:20:12 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 21:20:12 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Kas Sticker Message-ID: <4AAE7659-A2D1-4FB4-8B1B-A99918AA05B4@gmail.com> Place of honor. 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The candidates are: Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events. They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. JJD [A group of people posing for a photo next to a race car Description automatically generated with medium confidence] Jim Dolan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 299625 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed May 5 06:46:57 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 07:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FoT New Member Proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Done! I have three offspring on the list. Can anyone make it FOUR? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 5, 2021, at 7:44 AM, James J Dolan wrote: > > ? > Friends of Triumph, > > I would like to propose three members to the Friends of Triumph. > All are avid Triumph vintage racers and have competed in previous Kastner Cup events in Triumph GT6?s. > Full disclosure - I also raised these guys from birth and endured years of their high school antics. > > These men are proven drivers, carry SCCA, SVRA, VMC and FIA racing licenses and have incident free records over their racing careers. > They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost. > > The candidates are: > > Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA > > Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. > > Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events. > > They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. > I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. > > I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. > > JJD > > > > Jim Dolan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed May 5 07:39:42 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 13:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1427033735.352090.1620221982502@mail.yahoo.com> All of the Spit engines, it's in the design, the feed port to the center main is directly behind the dist/oil pump shaft bush. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: robert bownes via Fot To: Greg Blake Cc: FOT ; fubog1 Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild Pretty sure it is applicable to the 1147 as well, seeing as how I lost countless engines to #3 rod bearings melting down and requesting exit via the side of the block. On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:33 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, GT6).? Building a few of those motors in near future. ? Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot To: Rod Pierce Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know.I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. Bud On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. ? engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed May 5 07:40:53 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 13:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Kas - Stickers In-Reply-To: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> References: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1689903499.405108.1620222053531@mail.yahoo.com> Got mine too thanks again Steve! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot To: Steven Belfer Cc: fot Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 3:58 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas - Stickers Got my Kas stickers today. Really nice. ?Great job Steve. Bud On May 4, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: You?re welcome! ?I didn?t realize how challenging it can be. I hope you like the stickers? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Cool. Thanks for doing the stickers. Coordinating group buys or anything is never easy. RegardsBud On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: Good morning.?I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it.? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Hi Steve, What?s the status of the Kas stickers? ThanksBud On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: Hi Bud, I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. If you use PayPal, please send $8 to?steve at artwithcars.com Thanks ~Steve On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: Hi Steve, I would like four stickers please. Thanks for doing the stickers. Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? My address is: Bud Rolofson 220 Carr St. Lakewood Colorado. 80226 Thanks Bud Sent from my Commodore 64 On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot wrote: Dear FOT, As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. ?If you want one, please send me a private email to steve at artwithcars.com No need to reply to the entire FOT group. ? $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next Kastner Cup to help pay expenses 6? x 3.75? oval ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Sean Alexander via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 5:02 pm Subject: [Fot] TR4 Head ~ Combustion Chamber CC / Material Removed From Head Please share?the combustion?chamber volume and head thickness for different?setups that have been tried on the TR4 head Sean _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adcronin at mi.rr.com Wed May 5 13:40:51 2021 From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 15:40:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Head ~ Combustion Chamber CC / Material Removed From Head In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B7D6DA1-987C-43D5-9687-D8579E793745@mi.rr.com> Sean I will share some of the mastications I have been going thru as I continue on the resto-modding of my 55 TR2 with 3B block, 4A head and manifolds, 89 mm bore, etc stock head was shaved initially by having 0.020 removed to eliminate some prior scars (3.330 - 0.020 = 3.310?). Chamber had some minor work to smooth out sharp edges, and relieve some of the shrouding resulting in a chamber area of 61.75 average cc?s for a static CR using a 0.032 copper gasket of 9.43 +/- Had an add?l 0.020 shaved to eliminate some careless scars from some add?l chamber work resulting in an average chamber cc of 62.38 and still using the 0.032 copper gasket (Mordy D) yielding a CR of 9.35+/- Did some more shrouding work and sent head out for some manifold port matching and roller rocker alignment work as well as an add?l 0.010 head milling (so 0.050 total material removed from the stock head for an new height of 3.280?), with a better smoothness ratio for use with Mordy?s 0.022 copper gasket. Also to have the shop cc the combustion chambers after the work is completed. Aiming for a final CR of around 9.75+/- Motor has 270 duration cam, Moodys 5 dummy main billet crank, Corrello rods, BFE 89 mm piston and liner set, IJ teflon crank scraper and baffles, uprated oil pump with Dodge Ram pickup from IJ, SS valves with oversize intake and hardened exhaust seats. HS roller rockers on hardened shaft and alloy pedestals. Crain electronic ignition, Fidanza alloy flywheel, diaphragm clutch, ATI super damper, alloy front motor plate, alloy rocker cover and sump, alloy radiator and soft start electronic fan with thin belt conversion to uprated water pump and alternator. HS6 carbs on 4A intake and exhaust. Gear reduction starter. Toyota 5 speed, Quaife diff with 4.11 gears and alloy drive shaft, 4 wheel disk brakes, 4 wheel tube shocks, uprated front spindles and alloy hubs, RATCO frame modified to take full TR6 front suspension including front sway bar. Oil cooler with thermostat and spin on filter. Hope to be on the road soon! 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Bob Kramer On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:23 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > Got mine too thanks again Steve! > > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Steven Belfer > Cc: fot > Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 3:58 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas - Stickers > > Got my Kas stickers today. Really nice. Great job Steve. > > Bud > > On May 4, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > You?re welcome! I didn?t realize how challenging it can be. I hope you > like the stickers > > ~Steve > > > On May 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > ? Cool. > > Thanks for doing the stickers. Coordinating group buys or anything is > never easy. > > Regards > Bud > > On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > Good morning. > I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it. > > ~Steve > > > On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > ? Hi Steve, > > What?s the status of the Kas stickers? > > Thanks > Bud > > On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > Hi Bud, > > I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. > > If you use PayPal, please send $8 to steve at artwithcars.com > > Thanks > > ~Steve > > > On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > Hi Steve, > I would like four stickers please. > Thanks for doing the stickers. > Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? > My address is: > Bud Rolofson > 220 Carr St. > Lakewood Colorado. 80226 > > Thanks > Bud > > Sent from my Commodore 64 > > On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot > wrote: > > Dear FOT, > As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to > be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. If you want one, please send me > a private email to steve at artwithcars.com > No need to reply to the entire FOT group. > > $2 each to cover cost and postage. 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Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA ? Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. ? Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events.?? ? They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. ? I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. ? JJD ? ? Jim Dolan ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost.? ? The candidates are: ? Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA ? Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. ? Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events.?? ? They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. ? I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. ? JJD ? ? Jim Dolan ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2021, at 6:46 PM, fmccjr via Fot wrote: > > ? ?,?,?. > > 3 seconds, in a nanosecond. > > Rick McCurdy > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 5:37 PM, James J Dolan via Fot wrote: > > Friends of Triumph, > > > > I would like to propose three members to the Friends of Triumph. > > All are avid Triumph vintage racers and have competed in previous Kastner Cup events in Triumph GT6?s. > > Full disclosure - I also raised these guys from birth and endured years of their high school antics. > > > > These men are proven drivers, carry SCCA, SVRA, VMC and FIA racing licenses and have incident free records over their racing careers. > > They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost. > > > > The candidates are: > > > > Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA > > > > Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. > > > > Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events. > > > > They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. > > I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. > > > > I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. > > > > JJD > > > > > > > > Jim Dolan > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. https://ccfot.com/survey/ If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! Cheers On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > remember everybody! > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > stuff From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 6 11:07:07 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 10:07:07 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: <140a1e7f7ee13e3852ed61782c0a8e27@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an > effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill > out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You > are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first > message... > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out > the form and submit it. > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said > your form was submitted, we have it! > > Cheers > > > On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > > remember everybody! > > > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > > helpful. 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URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:17:14 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 19:17:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. Or is that too much? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > >> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >> message... >> >> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >> possibly getting dropped from the list. >> >> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >> the form and submit it. >> >> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> >> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >> >> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >> >> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >> your form was submitted, we have it! >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >> > remember everybody! >> > >> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >> > >> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> > >> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >> > >> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >> > >> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >> > stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:34:59 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:34:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> I just thought it was another thinly veiled attempt to get rid of me...again. It will never be that easy! Thanks, Chuck > On May 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > ?Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! > > Cheers > > >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >> started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >> be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >> and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >> remember everybody! >> We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >> survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >> numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >> and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >> and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >> track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >> don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >> We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >> submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >> us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >> - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >> future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >> helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >> annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >> Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >> appreciate everyone's cooperation. >> Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of stuff > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:44:20 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 19:44:20 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> References: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78D8720B-887B-45FA-8C42-9739DFAE975B@gmail.com> In 25 years, there has only been one Driver drummed out. The circumstances were extraordinary and warranted. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 7:35 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?I just thought it was another thinly veiled attempt to get rid of me...again. It will never be that easy! > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... >> >> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. >> >> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. >> >> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> >> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >> >> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >> >> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! >> >> Cheers >> >> >>>> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>> Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >>> started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >>> be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >>> and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >>> remember everybody! >>> We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >>> survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >>> numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >>> and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >>> and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >>> track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >>> don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >>> We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >>> submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >>> us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >>> - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>> This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >>> future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >>> helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >>> annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >>> Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >>> appreciate everyone's cooperation. >>> Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:54:35 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:54:35 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> Message-ID: Joe, Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! What say you Steve Belfer?? :-) *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander wrote: > I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT > was launched so late in the year. December. > > Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? > > I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to > Kas. > > Or is that too much? > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot > wrote: > > ? > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > *Brad Eells* > *Chino CA* > *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* > *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* > *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* > > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: > >> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >> message... >> >> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >> possibly getting dropped from the list. >> >> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >> the form and submit it. >> >> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> >> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >> >> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >> >> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >> your form was submitted, we have it! >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >> > remember everybody! >> > >> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >> > >> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> > >> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >> > >> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >> > >> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >> > stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:55:47 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:55:47 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> References: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chuck, I think Cup winners get a lifetime membership. Even if they forget the secret handshake! :-) *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:35 PM Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > I just thought it was another thinly veiled attempt to get rid of > me...again. It will never be that easy! > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > On May 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > > > ?Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort > to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and > submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all > set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... > > > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the > form and submit it. > > > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your > form was submitted, we have it! > > > > Cheers > > > > > >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > >> Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > >> started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > >> be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > >> and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > >> remember everybody! > >> We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > >> survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > >> numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > >> and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > >> and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > >> track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > >> don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > >> We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > >> submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > >> us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > >> - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > >> This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > >> future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > >> helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > >> annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > >> Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > >> appreciate everyone's cooperation. > >> Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > stuff > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhassall at gmail.com Thu May 6 19:27:40 2021 From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 21:27:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ll be glad to help ? jim W4BEA Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7 > On May 6, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Joe, > > Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! > > What say you Steve Belfer?? > > :-) > > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > >> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander wrote: >> I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. >> >> Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? >> >> I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. >> >> Or is that too much? >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! >>> >>> Brad Eells >>> Chino CA >>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >>>> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >>>> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >>>> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >>>> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >>>> message... >>>> >>>> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >>>> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >>>> possibly getting dropped from the list. >>>> >>>> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >>>> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >>>> the form and submit it. >>>> >>>> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>> >>>> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >>>> >>>> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >>>> >>>> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >>>> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >>>> your form was submitted, we have it! >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >>>> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >>>> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >>>> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >>>> > remember everybody! >>>> > >>>> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >>>> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >>>> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >>>> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >>>> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >>>> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >>>> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >>>> > >>>> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >>>> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >>>> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >>>> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>> > >>>> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >>>> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >>>> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >>>> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >>>> > >>>> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >>>> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >>>> > >>>> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >>>> > stuff >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu May 6 19:31:22 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 21:31:22 -0400 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0EF09686-66CD-4095-8F0B-C8B77ADC04EA@me.com> I?ll take two! On May 6, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. Or is that too much? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: > Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an > effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill > out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You > are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first > message... > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out > the form and submit it. > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said > your form was submitted, we have it! > > Cheers > > > On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > > remember everybody! > > > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > > stuff > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Fri May 7 06:16:09 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 07:16:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > > ?I?ll be glad to help > > ? > jim W4BEA > Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7 > >>> On May 6, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Joe, >> >> Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! >> >> What say you Steve Belfer?? >> >> :-) >> >> >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> >> >>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander wrote: >>> I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. >>> >>> Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? >>> >>> I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. >>> >>> Or is that too much? >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>> ? >>>> Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! >>>> >>>> Brad Eells >>>> Chino CA >>>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >>>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >>>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >>>>> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >>>>> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >>>>> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >>>>> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >>>>> message... >>>>> >>>>> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >>>>> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >>>>> possibly getting dropped from the list. >>>>> >>>>> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >>>>> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >>>>> the form and submit it. >>>>> >>>>> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>>> >>>>> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >>>>> >>>>> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >>>>> >>>>> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >>>>> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >>>>> your form was submitted, we have it! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >>>>> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >>>>> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >>>>> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >>>>> > remember everybody! >>>>> > >>>>> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >>>>> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >>>>> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >>>>> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >>>>> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >>>>> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >>>>> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >>>>> > >>>>> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >>>>> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >>>>> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >>>>> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>>> > >>>>> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >>>>> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >>>>> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >>>>> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >>>>> > >>>>> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >>>>> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >>>>> > >>>>> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >>>>> > stuff >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri May 7 07:14:23 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 08:14:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] PORTLAND PLANNING References: <2A216255-8B4F-41E6-9664-94425868C9FB.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <2A216255-8B4F-41E6-9664-94425868C9FB@cs.com> Last night, Curt Johnston had an amazing ZOOM meeting. Data we could use that we are missing is ATTENDANCE. Please submit your current intention to attend as a Driver or Crew. Please mention any other TR folks that you know of that are not on this list. For Example: CREW Sean Alexander Brendan Alexander Mark Alexander Erik Alexander Joe Alexander Please respond even if you are not sure. We know that there is alway attrition. But we need to know how much beer and wine to get. And other stuff. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Fri May 7 07:30:21 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 13:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Free to a good home In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1195332056.1915744.1620394221596@mail.yahoo.com> Free wheels anyone? - Drew Steidinger here.?I?m changing the 15? painted spoke rims on my MGC to chrome. Does anyone know who might be interested in having the 4 mounted tires and rims? Price is very good, $0. I?ll even deliver them.?I do want to get them out of my garage ASAP.Call me: 910-528-6939Thanks Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri May 7 14:00:39 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 15:00:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed References: Message-ID: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> > ? > Fellow racers and breakers of parts, > > This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. > > My problem > For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. > > My setup > Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. > > I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. > > I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): > What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? > What is your setup and adjustment approach? > Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? > Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. > > Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. Greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From horizonracing at msn.com Fri May 7 14:20:03 2021 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 20:20:03 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> References: , <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> Message-ID: Like with any brake related issues , you need to work on facts . * line pressure front and rear * actual Temperature front and rear ( temp paint is best). Are you locking rear brakes at all ?? My first inclination is , the rears are dragging - Wrong geometry at balance bar ? Master cylinder free play ? Good luck T Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote: ? ? Fellow racers and breakers of parts, This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. My problem For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. My setup Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): 1. What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? 2. What is your setup and adjustment approach? 3. Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? 4. Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. Greg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Fri May 7 15:37:43 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 21:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> References: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> Message-ID: <870447044.877325.1620423463160@mail.yahoo.com> Greg that is strange, rear brakes usually just hang-out back there & do their thing, once all is established, and fine-tuned with the balance bar.Assuming that the sliders are free, springs good, leading/trailing shoes correct, I don't see a problem, it's all pretty basic. With a .70 master on the rear you would actually have less pressure to the rears, less braking/heat.The shoes do swell a little when hot, 2-3 clicks off initially should do it though.Looking at the big picture, what started the problem, ie changes to the system?Also have you tried it w/o the prop valve, or did the problem exist prior?Do you have any gross bias adjustment in the balance bar? Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Fri, May 7, 2021 4:00 pm Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed ? Fellow racers and breakers of parts, ? This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway.? Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now.? ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened.? That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. ? My problem For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes.? Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear.? This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details.? Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes.? For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails.? The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance.? In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. ? My setup Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar.? Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?).? I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure.? I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. ?I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks.? Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel.? I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears.? This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. ? I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. ? I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): - What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? - What is your setup and adjustment approach?? - Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? - Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today.? I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat.? The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days.? Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate?? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source.? I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point.? I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures.? ? Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas.? Greg?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Fri May 7 16:03:16 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 17:03:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> References: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> Message-ID: Greg When we looked at it at the track the knob for the bias was way in the back on the driver shaft tunnel. I'm sure it is a smooth run from there up under the bonnet to the bias bar but maybe the cable arrangement could hold a clue. Might it hang up somehow causing the rears to change to dragging while getting off and on the peddle? Running with it disconnected would tell a story. Bob Kramer On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > > ? > > Fellow racers and breakers of parts, > > > > This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. > Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a > multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR > has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural > terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since > it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well > enough on that for now. > > > > *My problem* > > For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o > completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up > that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start > cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last > weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear > cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another > seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those > details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed > reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this > happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end > up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates > significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d > estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, > like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. > > > > *My setup* > > Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front > TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried > everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning > valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running > with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one > of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely > off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup > is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running > the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off > two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar > until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately > the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial > back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts > slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with > confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. > > > > I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same > results. > > > > I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas > please): > > 1. What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? > 2. What is your setup and adjustment approach? > 3. Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or > is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? > 4. Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I > think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the > sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, > along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side > loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t > think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone > modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston > wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched > the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts > from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m > really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. > > > > Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri May 7 16:10:12 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 17:10:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9181BD07-8AEF-42A7-8E5B-979DA52DE09B@icloud.com> Bob that is a hydraulic bias adjustment essentially all it does is dial back the pressure available to the rears. Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2021, at 5:03 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > > ? > Greg > > When we looked at it at the track the knob for the bias was way in the back on the driver shaft tunnel. I'm sure it is a smooth run from there up under the bonnet to the bias bar but maybe the cable arrangement could hold a clue. Might it hang up somehow causing the rears to change to dragging while getting off and on the peddle? Running with it disconnected would tell a story. > > Bob Kramer > > >> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: >> >>> ? >>> Fellow racers and breakers of parts, >>> >>> >>> >>> This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. >>> >>> >>> >>> My problem >>> >>> For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. >>> >>> >>> >>> My setup >>> >>> Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. >>> >>> >>> >>> I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): >>> >>> What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? >>> What is your setup and adjustment approach? >>> Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? >>> Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. >>> >>> >>> Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. >>> >> >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Sat May 8 12:39:49 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 13:39:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? Message-ID: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are before I take things apart and really figure it out... Setup: TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage and slave cylinder Issue: Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping clutch when pedal is up.? Engagement point moved from near the floor to near the top of pedal travel.? Happened suddenly.? Clutch fluid is at normal level.? Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like I'm not fully releasing the pedal. Guesses?? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin came out and jammed in the throwout)?? Slight chance of hang up in slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course I'll report back when I know the actual cause. Cheers, Tony Drews From bitishrm at comcast.net Sat May 8 13:11:40 2021 From: bitishrm at comcast.net (RICHARD NORTH) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 12:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> Message-ID: <610242983.459855.1620501101243@connect.xfinity.com> Hi there Its a great idea. I would also like to stay on the fot list. Richard North, Pleasant Hill, CA #24 Ex-Works Triumph TR7 V8 Rally car, 1976 Three Triumph TR8 road cars: 1976 TR7 V8, two 1980 TR8 convertibles Triumph Stag, 1973 Cheers Richard > On 05/06/2021 5:54 PM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > > Joe, > > Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! > > What say you Steve Belfer?? > > :-) > > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander < joealexandervintage at gmail.com mailto:joealexandervintage at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. > > > > Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? > > > > I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. > > > > Or is that too much? > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > > > > > Brad Eells > > > Chino CA > > > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > > > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > > > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > > > > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an > > > > effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill > > > > out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You > > > > are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first > > > > message... > > > > > > > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > > > > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > > > > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > > > > > > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > > > > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out > > > > the form and submit it. > > > > > > > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > > > > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > > > > > > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com mailto:yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > > > > > > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > > > > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said > > > > your form was submitted, we have it! > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > > > > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > > > > > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > > > > > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > > > > > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > > > > > remember everybody! > > > > > > > > > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > > > > > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > > > > > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > > > > > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > > > > > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > > > > > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > > > > > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > > > > > > > > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > > > > > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > > > > > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > > > > > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > > > > > > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > > > > > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > > > > > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > > > > > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > > > > > > > > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > > > > > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > > > > > > > > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > > > > > stuff > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bitishrm at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Sat May 8 13:46:32 2021 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 13:46:32 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? In-Reply-To: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> References: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <008d01d74442$d8e5fb40$8ab1f1c0$@comcast.net> I'm going with your guess. jg -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 12:40 PM To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are before I take things apart and really figure it out... Setup: TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage and slave cylinder Issue: Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping clutch when pedal is up. Engagement point moved from near the floor to near the top of pedal travel. Happened suddenly. Clutch fluid is at normal level. Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like I'm not fully releasing the pedal. Guesses? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin came out and jammed in the throwout)? Slight chance of hang up in slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course I'll report back when I know the actual cause. Cheers, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net From tony at tonydrews.com Sat May 8 17:43:47 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 18:43:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? Answer! In-Reply-To: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> References: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <19b0a289-8c71-442b-afa0-c798230d30ea@tonydrews.com> That was fun to see the wisdom of the list. Problem was...: pressure plate.? Apparently the diaphragm broke. Not all fingers line up. That was really fun to take apart (not!!!).? I'll send a pic on the next reply. So...? Any "better than the others" choices for a TR-6 stock style pressure plate?? I probably should go ahead and do the disc while I'm at it - and I'm looking for good sources for that too. This is the TR-7 splined disk (1" 18 spline?).? I need something beefy of course. The disc actually looks pretty good, but while I'm in here I might as well see about doing the whole schmeer.? I'm going to rebuild the slave too just because, although the more I replace the more my new parts can catch me out too.? One more local race before the 4 day tow to the Cup in Portland, would much prefer not to break it again there. Clutch fork is pinned to the shaft with an extra through bolt. Clutch fork fingers are stock, would be a good opportunity to try Glen's grade 8 bolt trick.? Glen, can you describe how you do that in a little more detail? Time for shower number 2 for the day.? :) Cheers, Tony Drews On 5/8/2021 1:39 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I > thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are > before I take things apart and really figure it out... > > Setup: > > TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage > and slave cylinder > > Issue: > > Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping > clutch when pedal is up.? Engagement point moved from near the floor > to near the top of pedal travel.? Happened suddenly.? Clutch fluid is > at normal level.? Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like > I'm not fully releasing the pedal. > > Guesses?? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin > came out and jammed in the throwout)?? Slight chance of hang up in > slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course > I'll report back when I know the actual cause. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > From tony at tonydrews.com Sat May 8 17:58:12 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 18:58:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? Answer! In-Reply-To: <19b0a289-8c71-442b-afa0-c798230d30ea@tonydrews.com> References: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> <19b0a289-8c71-442b-afa0-c798230d30ea@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: And... the picture... Cheers, Tony On 5/8/2021 6:43 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > That was fun to see the wisdom of the list. > > Problem was...: pressure plate.? Apparently the diaphragm broke. Not > all fingers line up. > > That was really fun to take apart (not!!!).? I'll send a pic on the > next reply. > > So...? Any "better than the others" choices for a TR-6 stock style > pressure plate?? I probably should go ahead and do the disc while I'm > at it - and I'm looking for good sources for that too. This is the > TR-7 splined disk (1" 18 spline?).? I need something beefy of course. > > The disc actually looks pretty good, but while I'm in here I might as > well see about doing the whole schmeer.? I'm going to rebuild the > slave too just because, although the more I replace the more my new > parts can catch me out too.? One more local race before the 4 day tow > to the Cup in Portland, would much prefer not to break it again there. > > Clutch fork is pinned to the shaft with an extra through bolt. Clutch > fork fingers are stock, would be a good opportunity to try Glen's > grade 8 bolt trick.? Glen, can you describe how you do that in a > little more detail? > > Time for shower number 2 for the day.? :) > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > On 5/8/2021 1:39 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >> I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I >> thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are >> before I take things apart and really figure it out... >> >> Setup: >> >> TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish >> linkage and slave cylinder >> >> Issue: >> >> Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping >> clutch when pedal is up.? Engagement point moved from near the floor >> to near the top of pedal travel.? Happened suddenly.? Clutch fluid is >> at normal level.? Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like >> I'm not fully releasing the pedal. >> >> Guesses?? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin >> came out and jammed in the throwout)?? Slight chance of hang up in >> slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course >> I'll report back when I know the actual cause. >> >> Cheers, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I probably should go ahead and do the disc while I'm at it - and I'm looking for good sources for that too. This is the TR-7 splined disk (1" 18 spline?). I need something beefy of course. > > The disc actually looks pretty good, but while I'm in here I might as well see about doing the whole schmeer. I'm going to rebuild the slave too just because, although the more I replace the more my new parts can catch me out too. One more local race before the 4 day tow to the Cup in Portland, would much prefer not to break it again there. > > Clutch fork is pinned to the shaft with an extra through bolt. Clutch fork fingers are stock, would be a good opportunity to try Glen's grade 8 bolt trick. Glen, can you describe how you do that in a little more detail? > > Time for shower number 2 for the day. :) > > Cheers, Tony Drews > >> On 5/8/2021 1:39 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >> I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are before I take things apart and really figure it out... >> >> Setup: >> >> TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage and slave cylinder >> >> Issue: >> >> Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping clutch when pedal is up. Engagement point moved from near the floor to near the top of pedal travel. Happened suddenly. Clutch fluid is at normal level. Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like I'm not fully releasing the pedal. >> >> Guesses? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin came out and jammed in the throwout)? Slight chance of hang up in slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course I'll report back when I know the actual cause. >> >> Cheers, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com > > From sjanzen at me.com Sun May 9 07:08:48 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 09:08:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 Message-ID: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sun May 9 08:11:57 2021 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 08:11:57 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <0d711870-dc01-f319-ff51-cf38f474c27b@bradakis.com> On 5/9/21 7:08 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year > old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. > ?My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a > Minilight style wheel. ?Am I missing anything else? I think Kiezer Wheels is still a going concern.? They made these modular, very lightweight wheels for me.? The pic shows 13 x 6 front, 13 x 8 rear.? They seemed to be mostly dirt track, drag racing stuff back when I was working with them, sold a few sets of wheels to some folks back when I was trying to make Fat Chance Garage a real business. mjb. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_1538.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 943187 bytes Desc: not available URL: From maddhatt69 at aol.com Sun May 9 08:13:23 2021 From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 14:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 References: <558375075.2264288.1620569603452.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <558375075.2264288.1620569603452@mail.yahoo.com> Scott, Check out VTO wheels. I picked mine up from Hap Waldrop (ACME Speed Shop) a few years ago. Cheers! - Hoovie On Sunday, May 9, 2021 Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. ?My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. ?Am I missing anything else?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/maddhatt69 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsukey at gmail.com Sun May 9 09:17:59 2021 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 11:17:59 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: Scott, I had a good experience ordering a set of the "minilite" style VTO's last year. Ordering a set of 13x6 machined to a custom offset was easy, and they turned them around very quickly. See you in a few days! Jason On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 9:09 AM Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old > Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current > modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a > Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Sun May 9 09:27:18 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Sun, 09 May 2021 11:27:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <1620574038.sx4ifsn274kkoso0@webmail.lumos.net> Jongbloed has some 13 inch wheels.? I had a set for my Formula Ford and really liked them. John ? On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:08:48 -0400, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. ?My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. ? It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. ?Am I missing anything else? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walje at sbcglobal.net Sun May 9 09:48:33 2021 From: walje at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS WALJE) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 10:48:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <02ADFA2D-6E00-4954-BEEA-4C5F7525997F@sbcglobal.net> You might look at VTO wheels. I have a new set and they seem to be well made. I recall watching Group 44 cars with a wheel that looked just like the VTO Dennis Walje GT6 Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walje at sbcglobal.net > > From spitlist at cox.net Sun May 9 11:21:53 2021 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 13:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <0d711870-dc01-f319-ff51-cf38f474c27b@bradakis.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> <0d711870-dc01-f319-ff51-cf38f474c27b@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1398229986.2059047.1620580914058@myemail.cox.net> I was running Kaiser wheels on Tiny Tim for a while. 13x8's on the front and 13x10's on the rear. Yes they are very light but their main downside is they are very soft. So it takes a special person to mount and dismount tires. No machine can do it without bending the rims. > On May 9, 2021 at 10:11 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > > On 5/9/21 7:08 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > > > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year > > old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. > > My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > > > > > > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a > > Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > > > > > > I think Kiezer Wheels is still a going concern. They made these > modular, very lightweight wheels for me. The pic shows 13 x 6 front, 13 > x 8 rear. 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URL: From igofaster at att.net Sun May 9 19:30:32 2021 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 01:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <610242983.459855.1620501101243@connect.xfinity.com> References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> <610242983.459855.1620501101243@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <900832965.513380.1620610232702@mail.yahoo.com> I still have A Triumph..yes please...Bobby Whitehead On Saturday, May 8, 2021, 2:12:18 PM CDT, RICHARD NORTH via Fot wrote: Hi there Its a great idea. I would also like to stay on the fot list. ? Richard North, Pleasant Hill, CA #24 Ex-Works Triumph TR7 V8 Rally car, 1976? Three Triumph TR8 road cars: 1976 TR7 V8, two 1980 TR8 convertibles Triumph Stag, 1973 ? Cheers Richard On 05/06/2021 5:54 PM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: ? ? Joe, ? Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! ? What say you Steve Belfer?? ? :-) ? Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! ? On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander < joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote: I have been thinking about that.? This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. ? Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? ? I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. ? Or is that too much? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: ?319.464.4711 ? On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! ? On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. https://ccfot.com/survey/ If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. Henry Frye? yellow04 at tr4racer.com And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! Cheers On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > remember everybody! > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > stuff _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bitishrm at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awashatko at wi.rr.com Sun May 9 21:14:27 2021 From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 22:14:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Webers Message-ID: <97E35973-FEB7-45FA-A0A8-A2BAC9E3B6A1@wi.rr.com> Looking for a triple set of 45 DCOE?s. Preferably not a project set! Please contact me off line. Thanks! A Sent from my iPhone From levibud at icloud.com Mon May 10 00:02:46 2021 From: levibud at icloud.com (Bud Rolofson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 00:02:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <7E735D2E-ECFF-4930-9084-99F8D60D5C8F@icloud.com> Scott, I have a set of 13 x 6 VTO?s (black spokes with chrome rim) with Hoosier R7 205/60/13 tires I?m selling. Tires have only 3 races on them. You?d have to ship from Denver to where you live. Thanks Bud > On May 9, 2021, at 7:08 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Mon May 10 13:41:46 2021 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 14:41:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset References: Message-ID: Amici, What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2232432 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? > > I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero > offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more > than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. > > On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender > lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half > inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the > tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be > giving up track width. > > > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Mon May 10 15:59:16 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 21:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1758797076.1293293.1620683956733@mail.yahoo.com> I don't have an absolute number, all cars are different to a degree, but generally you want to space them out as far as possible, limited by bodywork and/or rules.Check the front inner rim edge/top ball joint for clearance when loaded & lock to lock.Relieving the rear leaves for inner clearance is SOP with some combinations but it looks like you have a nice Watts-link so the rear won't move much laterally.Just a few thoughts...Glen Efinger ? -----Original Message----- From: dustin nicholson via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 10, 2021 3:41 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset Amici, What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Mon May 10 17:16:06 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 19:16:06 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Hewland Gearbox - Spitfire Message-ID: Amici - I have a Hewland gearbox that came with my ?64 race Spitfire that I don?t need. Includes 17 gear sets, aluminum bell housing. PM me if you are interested. Thanks, Terry From johnstydo at gmail.com Mon May 10 17:28:19 2021 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 19:28:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a word of caution to you, running the stock rear axles and hubs is asking for trouble since they have been known to break with the added stress of racing. Upgrading to one-piece axle would be wise if you are getting serious. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? > > I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero > offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more > than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. > > On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender > lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half > inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the > tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be > giving up track width. > > > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coelacanth.racing at gmail.com Mon May 10 19:26:37 2021 From: coelacanth.racing at gmail.com (Roger Williams) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 20:26:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2EF1525B-AA8F-4770-B725-51EF083B1325@gmail.com> There is this thing called scrub radius. When the factory engineers designed your car they set it in a proper position. If you add spacers or get taller tires or shorter tires or install the wrong rims you can make your car dangerously unstable at worst or at least make parts wear out and or break important bits causing a crash. Making a racecar unstable is not a good idea. If you do not know where the scrub radius is on your front tires...maybe you should. Attached is a simple look at what can get very complex and dangerous. Cheers Roger Williams https://www.carthrottle.com/post/what-is-scrub-radius-and-why-is-it-important/ Sent from my iPad > On May 10, 2021, at 6:30 PM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > ? > As a word of caution to you, running the stock rear axles and hubs is asking for trouble since they have been known to break with the added stress of racing. Upgrading to one-piece axle would be wise if you are getting serious. > >> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> >> What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? >> >> I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. >> >> On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/coelacanth.racing at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hankgiffin at cox.net Mon May 10 21:31:40 2021 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 23:31:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 for sale in Virginia Beach Message-ID: <00ee01d74616$28bcddd0$7a369970$@cox.net> FOTs, here is an ad in the local MG Club newsletter. I plan to look at it next week but really don?t need another project. FYI, Hank Hank Giffin 757 n375n1491 The Oil Spot - May 10, 2021 Drips and Drabs from the TMGC Want to tell us about an MG-related event or have a lead on a car or parts? Send it to Bob Stein for inclusion in the Oil Spot. NOTE: If you do NOT want to receive the Oil Spot, please select UNSUBSCRIBE at the bottom to be removed from my mailing list. For more information, visit our web site at: www.mg.org TMGC News and Activities NOTE - Some TMGC activities have been cancelled or rescheduled. Check the club website ( www.mg.org), the Dipstick for further information. MAY 26 - (Wed) Tentative Dessert Drive Peninsula, depart from the Yorktown Battlefield at 6:30PM 27 - (Thu) Tentative Dessert Drive Southside, depart from the Harris Teeter / Nimmo Parkway at 6:30PM Recent Member Acquisitions Just got a 'new' MG or other Little British Car? Share a picture of your new 'baby' with the Club! Send images and information to Bob Stein at postibob at gmail.com. No recent member acquisitions TMGC Classified Cars for Sale 1960 Triumph TR3 - $15,000 ? Red with black interior and top, good driver car. 2138cc 4-cylinder with 4-speed, older repaint, recent work to fuel and suspension. Located in New Kent, VA. Contact Aren Blaze at 804-504-6734 or email mailto:a.baze at tutanota.com. 1965 Triumph TR4 solid-axle rolling chassis - $3000 - With most systems fully rebuilt; w/commissioning (VIN) tag, MN state Title & copy of the p.o.'s Death Cert (signed by his widow), for titling & reg. Chassis rebuilt: upper, lower trunnions, and full suspension kit; brake fittings and wheel cyl's; rebuilt rear brakes; rebuilt front calipers & new disks; rack bushings; u-joints; all seals and gaskets; rear axle rebound rubbers; rebuilt trans; rebuilt differential. New trans mount ordered (coming from UK on approx. 5/4). New floorpans installed, slightly trimmed/tweaked (less than 1?); easily patched (chassis also fits TR2/3). Wire wheels in excellent shape, need cleaning/touch-up or powdercoat. Many parts to complete, including new TR4 accessory gauges (w/original tach and speedo), new master cylinders, steering column/shaft(s)-(both factory & custom); period aftermarket steering wheel; includes most receipts. Can put purchaser in touch with a party that has very good TR4 engine core with all accessories, including some vintage 1950s Stellings & Hellings air cleaners, for a good price (a few hundred bucks). Photos emailed on request. John Bayer in VA Beach, jrbayer3 at yahoo.com. 1971 MGB-GT ? BRG w/ tan interior - $9800 - Nice Driver ? No Rust, total frame up restoration in 2005, ? race cam w/reliable SU4s on engine rebuild (20,000 miles), stainless steel Trophy Sport exhaust, new brake system front and rear (master, lines, slaves and disc/drums), fuel gauge, new tires on chrome wires, and so much more. Well maintained and dependable. Contact Jim Smith at jamesssmithjr at gmail.com. 1972 MGB roadster project - $2500 obo - Non-rolling chassis w/ engine and trans still in. Have a hard top,(cracked), bows for soft top, seats, limited edition wheels w/ tires. Running gear out of car. Have most of old parts and loads of new stuff. NEW floor pans, trunk pan, new wiring harness, gas tank, fuel pump, WEBER carb w/ intake, rebuilt front shocks, conversion kit for rear, coil springs for front, rear leaf, king pin set, spring mounts, control arms, complete bushing kit, brake kit, master cyl. , clutch slave cyl. Have most of original parts , bumpers, grill, SU carbs, etc. Also have extra used transmission. Over 3000 in parts, asking $2500 OBO. Everything must go! Clear VA title. Geoffrey Curwen (757) 618-0054 gcbandit33 at yahoo.com. 1977 MG Midget - $2500 obo - Mustard yellow, tan interior. Has had new radiator, starter, alternator, Master and slave cylinders, recent new interior and much more. Has not been used regularly but runs good. however suffers from an intermittent clutch problem. Cute car. Call Pete Rohrmayher for more info. 757-410-5564 (Chesapeake). 1978 MGB - $15,000 ? Mechanically fully rebuilt with upgraded performance engine, clutch hydraulics, new heater core, exhaust system, etc. New carpet, many upgrades. Painted wires, luggage rack, air dam, Red with tan interior. 80K miles. Keith Shiminski - kshim001 at odu.edu. Two 1979 MG Midgets - Cars. GAN6UL212542G and GAN6UL212178G. Clear titles. One rolling body without engine (Vermillion). One largely disassembled body (BRG). Extra set of doors and bonnet lid. Two sets of seats and interior panels (recommend recovering/replacing) plus 1 set of seat frames. Machined 1500 engine block and crank with head machined and reassembled. 3 transmissions, one believed to have been rebuilt by prior owner of project. 1975 1500 Midget engine w/ ancillary systems and approximately 29,000 miles (running when removed per eBay seller). 2 extra engine blocks. New windshield. New fuel tank. 4 brand new tires, Weber carb. Monza exhaust. Chrome bumper and new pre-1975 style grille. One dash in great shape. Fiberglass fillers for bumperless rear. Too many other components/parts to list. Tow bar and brand new engine stand included. Over $5000.00 invested. All for sale at $2,500.00 OBO. Larry Luck 757 206 9428 leluck at cox.net Parts/Other/Services MGB: Brand new black tonneau with snaps. $200 - Snaps still in plastic bag for precise placement to fit your car. Call or text 757-449-7463 - Paul. Wanted MGB chrome bumper roadster project car. Get rid of that dusty MG that hasn?t moved in years that's taking up space in your garage or that stalled restoration project. I?ll consider pretty much anything except a rust bucket. Contact Bob at: Bob2274 at hotmail.com or 540.547.3717 Overdrive transmission in good working order for late model MGB. Contact Tommy Keiningham at 757-471-5650. Useable Weber downdraft (just the carb, or carb and intake) that doesn't need sorted out - bolt on, set the mixture, and go. Cash, or I have loads of spares to trade. Also looking for a fuel pressure regulator for another project. Mark Childers 757-650-7743. 1966 MGB or as close as possible firewall to front of car and gutted, need to repair my 66 MGB. Linnie Pearce at James.pearce at cox.net or (757)377-4589 Cell. Vehicle Storage Space - Looking for garage space in Virginia Beach or Norfolk area. For my 52 Singer 4AD, call or text Bill @ 772-240-4869 MGB Bucket Seats to fit 1980 Roadster - Black preferred. Contact Don Ladd at 721-2934 or email donaldwl68 at msn.com. MGA-1600, anti-sway bar. Contact Mick Grochowski at 757-348-9627 or e-mail at mickg2468 at gmail.com. Tidewater MG Club - MG.org 757-375-1491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5879 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vfracing at aol.com Tue May 11 05:28:35 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 11:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: <2EF1525B-AA8F-4770-B725-51EF083B1325@gmail.com> References: <2EF1525B-AA8F-4770-B725-51EF083B1325@gmail.com> Message-ID: <646458170.1377587.1620732515409@mail.yahoo.com> Dusty: Back when I first raced my TR4A (solid axle) I ran zero offset wheels (hub interface exactly centered in the wheel) plus one-inch spacers. ?I had to notch the rear springs as shown in your picture because the slicks of the day (1979-84) would move in and out by well over over an inch and rub the springs. ?Now, running the same set up with 7 inch wheels (legal in HRG with whom I almost always run, John) and the Hoosier TDR 23 x 7.5 x 15 they never touch the stock-width springs. ?Note that the?TR4A solid axle springs are very similarly spaced from the hub as the TR3, not as far in as on the 4. Phil Gott -----Original Message----- From: Roger Williams via Fot To: John Styduhar Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 10, 2021 9:27 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset There is this thing called scrub radius. When the factory engineers designed your car they set it in a proper position. If you add spacers or get taller tires or shorter tires or install the wrong rims you can make your car dangerously unstable at worst or at least make parts wear out and or break important bits causing a crash. Making a racecar unstable is not a good idea. If you do not know where the scrub radius is on your front tires...maybe you should. Attached is a simple look at what can get very complex and dangerous.CheersRoger Williams https://www.carthrottle.com/post/what-is-scrub-radius-and-why-is-it-important/ Sent from my iPad On May 10, 2021, at 6:30 PM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: ?As a word of caution to you, running the stock rear axles and hubs is asking for trouble since they have been known?to break with the added stress of racing.? ?Upgrading to one-piece axle would be wise if you are getting serious. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/coelacanth.racing at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Tue May 11 17:01:24 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 18:01:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] A Little Levity References: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> Why not? The big red sticker on the back car says ?TOW? and it is a tractor motor..... We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. Paul Ricco -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_3802.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163036 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Sent from my iPhone From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue May 11 17:04:22 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 18:04:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] A Little Levity In-Reply-To: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> References: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> Message-ID: We will be there. Circling the wagons. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 11, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > ?Why not? > > The big red sticker on the back car says ?TOW? and it is a tractor motor..... > > We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. > > Paul Ricco > > > > Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Tue May 11 23:00:09 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 22:00:09 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cool...Candy Box Style! Message-ID: [image: Vitesse, Candy Box, Swanson.jpg] Chuck, Need to get you styled up with the suit and boots...the sideburns are a nice touch too! Cheers, *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Vitesse, Candy Box, Swanson.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 38801 bytes Desc: not available URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Wed May 12 04:07:18 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 06:07:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] A Little Levity In-Reply-To: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> References: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1.ref@att.net> <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> Message-ID: Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. From paulricco at att.net Wed May 12 06:15:50 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 07:15:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Road America References: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398@att.net> We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. > > MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! > >> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed May 12 06:33:17 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 07:33:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398@att.net> References: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398@att.net> Message-ID: <4A18CDEF-A9CC-4BB8-8C91-AE8AA46449AD@gmail.com> Good to see the activity reports. A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 161816 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. > > Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. > > We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. > > Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >> >> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >> >>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Wed May 12 16:43:49 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 08:43:49 +1000 Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers Message-ID: folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with. ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them. I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower in the rings FYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wide any leads appreciated, thanks Terry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Wed May 12 16:44:09 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> take a look at Total Seal Rings On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 05:41:35 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA?or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with.? ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them. I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower?in the rings FYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wide any leads appreciated, thanks Terry_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Wed May 12 16:50:31 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 18:50:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers In-Reply-To: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> References: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1620859831.2d2eb8hs00s00ogo@webmail.lumos.net> I was about to suggest Total Seal as well, but Ralph beat me to it. John ? On Wed, 12 May 2021 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC), ralph hansen via Fot wrote: ? ? take a look at Total Seal Rings ? ? On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 05:41:35 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: ? ? folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA?or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with.? ? ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them. ? I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower?in the rings ? FYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wide ? any leads appreciated, thanks ? Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4 at wi.rr.com Wed May 12 18:33:13 2021 From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (Steve Yott) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 19:33:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers In-Reply-To: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Talk to Grant Piston Rings.? They are great folks and will provide anything you need in rings at good prices.Steve Yott -------- Original message --------From: ralph hansen via Fot Date: 5/12/21 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FOT , Enquiries Road & Track Subject: Re: [Fot] piston ring makers take a look at Total Seal Rings On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 05:41:35 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA?or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with.?ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them.I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower?in the ringsFYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wideany leads appreciated, thanksTerry _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu May 13 04:41:41 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 06:41:41 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR3a Headlight Rings Message-ID: <67072A62-4FAC-45A4-8A77-70223C354C75@optonline.net> Good morning. How do I determine which trim rings fit? It?s a 58 TR3a. Buckets are original but new mounting rings and hardware. Perplexed Todd -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We need to get a picture of the number of cars to expect, so we?re asking everyone to please fill out this simple ( one minute) survey. Click here to go to the survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/W86VFJ9 WHY YOU SHOULD ATTEND! 1. Triumphs get half price fees, and we have our own Kastner Cup run group all weekend with two feature races. Portland is a fun, fast track enjoyed by SCCA, SVRA and Indy Car. 2. SVRA picks the third week in July for this race because it has the least chance of rain all year. Also, this one of just two races in Portland with a 112 decibel (dB) sound limit, the other being Indy Car. So we will have a dry weekend with no concerns about getting a black flag for being too loud. 3. Competitors will be treated to a special car dash plaque in honor of Kas. We?ll also provide a driver's suit patch, 2021 Kastner Cup tee shirt, and upgraded Peggy Kastner Performance Awards specific to each race class. Moss Motors is also providing a classic Kastner Cup competitor sticker for the outside of the car. 4. Our social events will be expanded as well. We?re planning a Celebration of Life for Kas on Thursday night with a special video tribute titled "Kas; In HIs Own Words." On Friday evening, the British Sports Car Hall of Fame will host a reception. The Kastner Cup awards will be presented on Saturday after the race. We have second feature race on Sunday. So it?s going to be a great weekend, and one that competitors will remember for a long time. 5. The fees are $275 to SVRA upon registration, and just $50 to the Kastner Cup Race (FOT) Committee. Sponsorships this year have allowed us to provide a better experience for competitors and cut the FOT fee by half (it was $100 last year). Special thanks to Moss Motors (Presenting Sponsor), VTR, Huffaker Motorsports and the Triumph Wedge Owners Association (TWOA). To register, go the SVRA site at this link: https://svra.com/events/2021-portland-speedtour/ For more information about the race, visit our webpage at: https://www.kastnercup2021.com/ Lastly, we?re sending out a Kastner Cup Newsletter. Please save my personal email address to your contacts so the Constant Contact email doesn?t get lost in your spam file: Curt Johnston, curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net , 707-249-1667. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri May 14 13:49:28 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 15:49:28 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Hewland Gearbox - Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F9D7BB9-F3DB-4840-A252-49E53425F8FA@gmail.com> Amici - Update - Wife says the Hewland Spitfire Gearbox has to go, as it is taking up space in her crafts area...Plz make offers! Again, this is a complete Hewland gearbox based on stock Spitfire gearbox case, tail shaft, 3-rail selector and aluminum bell housing. After spending over $2k repairing/maintaining at Savannah Race & Engineering, I don?t want to part it out...the gear sets would go quickly beyond just the Triumph Spitfire market...bell housing would also go fast, but I need it all gone - no room! PM me and Make me an offer! Thanks, Terry > On May 10, 2021, at 19:16, Terry Sopher wrote: > > ?Amici - I have a Hewland gearbox that came with my ?64 race Spitfire that I don?t need. Includes 17 gear sets, aluminum bell housing. PM me if you are interested. > > Thanks, Terry From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri May 14 20:21:04 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 19:21:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <4A18CDEF-A9CC-4BB8-8C91-AE8AA46449AD@gmail.com> References: <4A18CDEF-A9CC-4BB8-8C91-AE8AA46449AD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0AE24457-DA40-4C36-82CD-A5939524E818@gmail.com> Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 121040 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Thanks, Chuck > On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Good to see the activity reports. > > A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. > > Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >> >> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >> >> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >> >> Paul >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>> >>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>> >>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri May 14 20:38:40 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 19:38:40 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <0AE24457-DA40-4C36-82CD-A5939524E818@gmail.com> References: <0AE24457-DA40-4C36-82CD-A5939524E818@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> Jerry Barker?s here too! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 122170 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Thanks, Chuck > On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: > > ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Good to see the activity reports. >> >> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. >> >> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. >> >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >>> >>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >>> >>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>>> >>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>>> >>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >> >> From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri May 14 21:16:50 2021 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave Hogye) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 20:16:50 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> References: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <609EB822-A64C-43B6-B04C-67937EFD5E80@comcast.net> Go fast and have fun you guys. Thanks for the photo. Can?t wait for some videos. Dave H. Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Jerry Barker?s here too! > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: >> >> ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Good to see the activity reports. >>> >>> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. >>> >>> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >>>> >>>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >>>> >>>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>>>> >>>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>>>> >>>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > From tony at tonydrews.com Fri May 14 21:33:15 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 22:33:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1962 TR4 Vintage Race Car For Sale In-Reply-To: <00c201d74907$d5ef0890$81cd19b0$@harpercondren.com> References: <00c201d74907$d5ef0890$81cd19b0$@harpercondren.com> Message-ID: <4f42656f-d6dd-d5a9-c572-e663c5ea2a2b@tonydrews.com> No - not mine. This is Don Brick's former car. The current owner bought it, refurbished it to what appears to be a great standard and is now looking to sell it.? He's looking for suggestions on a good place to sell it (besides Bring A Trailer). See attached PDF - it has his contact information in it as well as a good description of the car and the work he's done on it. I'm happy to forward "selling advice" to him as well. Regards, Tony Drews -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: For Sale - 1962 TR4 Race Car.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 2213267 bytes Desc: not available URL: From agb at compsnw.com Fri May 14 22:16:06 2021 From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 21:16:06 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination or renomination... Message-ID: I would like to re-nominate Charly Mitchell as he seems to have dropped off the mailing list. Charly races his 1969 Triumph TR6 (#44) with SOVREN, here in the PNW for the past 20+ years. I get to admire his car, when parked in the paddock, because when we are on the track, Charly puts his pedal to the metal and is gone; I keep looking for him to appear (again), in my rear view mirror... He's a genuine person on the track and even better human being outside of racing where he always steps up and helps any and everyone he can. I'm proud to be a close member with him in 'Drip Pan Alley', but truly honored to be considered his friend. Best, Alec Buchan Bellingham, WA 1962 TR4 #5, SOVREN aka 'the Blue Caboose'. -- From david.c.cutter at gmail.com Fri May 14 22:28:42 2021 From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 07:28:42 +0300 Subject: [Fot] Nomination or renomination... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Second! On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 7:17 AM Alec Buchan via Fot wrote: > I would like to re-nominate Charly Mitchell as he seems to have dropped > off the mailing list. Charly races his 1969 Triumph TR6 (#44) with > SOVREN, here in the PNW for the past 20+ years. I get to admire his car, > when parked in the paddock, because when we are on the track, Charly > puts his pedal to the metal and is gone; I keep looking for him to > appear (again), in my rear view mirror... > > He's a genuine person on the track and even better human being outside > of racing where he always steps up and helps any and everyone he can. > > I'm proud to be a close member with him in 'Drip Pan Alley', but truly > honored to be considered his friend. > > Best, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4 #5, SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose'. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/david.c.cutter at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikegranat9 at gmail.com Fri May 14 23:09:59 2021 From: mikegranat9 at gmail.com (Mike Granat) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 22:09:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination or renomination... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I second, or third this. Charly is a huge asset to the Triumph community. On Fri, May 14, 2021, 9:16 PM Alec Buchan via Fot wrote: > I would like to re-nominate Charly Mitchell as he seems to have dropped > off the mailing list. Charly races his 1969 Triumph TR6 (#44) with > SOVREN, here in the PNW for the past 20+ years. I get to admire his car, > when parked in the paddock, because when we are on the track, Charly > puts his pedal to the metal and is gone; I keep looking for him to > appear (again), in my rear view mirror... > > He's a genuine person on the track and even better human being outside > of racing where he always steps up and helps any and everyone he can. > > I'm proud to be a close member with him in 'Drip Pan Alley', but truly > honored to be considered his friend. > > Best, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4 #5, SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose'. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mikegranat9 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Sat May 15 05:51:28 2021 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 11:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 1962 TR4 Vintage Race Car For Sale In-Reply-To: <4f42656f-d6dd-d5a9-c572-e663c5ea2a2b@tonydrews.com> References: <00c201d74907$d5ef0890$81cd19b0$@harpercondren.com> <4f42656f-d6dd-d5a9-c572-e663c5ea2a2b@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <185497237.878582.1621079488307@mail.yahoo.com> He did a wonderful job of making it look great. However, I wonder where the seller acquired some of his information about the car. The first paragraph under "Technical Spec" I believe is correct. The following paragraphs are incorrect. Jack Drews had no involvement with the car under our ownership. I freshened up the engine once. Replaced the cam followers at that time but did not replace the camshaft. The transmission was opened up for inspection and resealed to fix leaks. Then after overheating issues the head was checked for cracks, trued and valves reseated. The aluminum radiator and electric fan were added then too. The Southwick rear axle conversion was already there when I bought the car. I did not go into the rear axle during our ownership from 2006 to 2017. Ken Suhre On Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:37:34 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: No - not mine. This is Don Brick's former car.? The current owner bought it, refurbished it to what appears to be a great standard and is now looking to sell it.? He's looking for suggestions on a good place to sell it (besides Bring A Trailer). See attached PDF - it has his contact information in it as well as a good description of the car and the work he's done on it. I'm happy to forward "selling advice" to him as well. Regards, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sat May 15 07:30:45 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Road America In-Reply-To: <609EB822-A64C-43B6-B04C-67937EFD5E80@comcast.net> References: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> <609EB822-A64C-43B6-B04C-67937EFD5E80@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2084595213.1111533.1621085445850@mail.yahoo.com> Oh how I miss the days.? The June Sprints was always the biggest national race of the year (other than The Runoffs), and Road America was one of my 2 favorite tracks (along with Road Atlanta).? I first went there in 1975, when I was first getting started, and was not very competitive.? Qualified 17th in DP with a time of 3:14 & finished 7th, mostly due to attrition.? I was a bit overwhelmed by that 4 mile track.? Over the years? The car (and I) improved to the point where I won my race twice, once in 1989 when Vic Skirmants wasn't there, then in 1991 beating Vic by a car length (or less).? I qualified first overall with a time of 2:42, and had a best time during the race of 2:41, finishing first overall. And then there were all of the weekend festivities.? The fans, watching the other races from various points on the track.? Thunder Valley, Canada Corner, the Hurry Downs, and, of course, Turn 5, a great passing spot.? Then off to Schwartz's Supper Club for dinner. I know you guys who go will have a great time, and you probably have great memories of the track as well.? Everyone have a great time, whether racing or supporting.? Good luck and be safe. Jack ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Dave Hogye via Fot To: Chuck Gee Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:18:16 PM EDTSubject: Re: [Fot] Road America Go fast and have fun you guys.? Thanks for the photo.? Can?t wait for some videos.? Dave H. Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Jerry Barker?s here too! > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: >> >> ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend.? British Extravaganza honoring Kas. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Good to see the activity reports.? >>> >>> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. >>> >>> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee.? Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell:? 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >>>> >>>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us.? They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >>>> >>>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>>>> >>>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>>>> >>>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From agb at compsnw.com Sat May 15 09:14:57 2021 From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 08:14:57 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Another nomination, please Message-ID: <2b986937-ceed-1854-f82f-9c6214c595b1@compsnw.com> In preparing for the Kas Cup, we have found some fellow racers, not included in FOT. I would like to nominate Jason Roosa who races a 1957 TR3A with SOVREN. Last year was his Novice year and he has fit in very well, becoming a contributing member of 'Drip Pan Alley'. The only problem I have with his car is that MY WIFE says its the prettiest Triumph out there! Thank you, Alec Buchan Bellingham, WA 1962 TR4A #5 SOVREN aka 'the Blue Caboose' -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The only problem I > have with his car is that MY WIFE says its the prettiest Triumph out > there! > > Thank you, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4 #5 SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose' > -- > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/agb at compsnw.com > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: emailsignature4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 22639 bytes Desc: not available URL: From paulricco at att.net Sat May 15 09:29:17 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 10:29:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Road America In-Reply-To: <2084595213.1111533.1621085445850@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2084595213.1111533.1621085445850@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1FA51C73-F2B3-4FF9-BF84-1B0D362BC3C0@att.net> Jack, Thank you. We appreciate the time you took to write what you did. We are having a very nice weekend. I started coming here over 40 years ago with my father. He has been gone for many years. We have a lot of great memories from here as well. Our car qualified in 2nd place for the DP Group yesterday. Only beaten by a real Yenko Stinger corvair that has a lot of professional support traveling with it. It is running 10 seconds faster than everyone in the group. We are within a second of one of the CP 356?s. I also know Vic and always enjoy spending time with him. He is not here. There are a lot if very well supported 356?s and 911?s from Ecurie here. Mark and I have been friends for decades and I enjoy learning from him. Still 3 more sessions left to catch the 356 and work on improving my driving. All-in-all we are having a great weekend. Thank you again, Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: > > ? > Oh how I miss the days. The June Sprints was always the biggest national race of the year (other than The Runoffs), and Road America was one of my 2 favorite tracks (along with Road Atlanta). I first went there in 1975, when I was first getting started, and was not very competitive. Qualified 17th in DP with a time of 3:14 & finished 7th, mostly due to attrition. I was a bit overwhelmed by that 4 mile track. Over the years The car (and I) improved to the point where I won my race twice, once in 1989 when Vic Skirmants wasn't there, then in 1991 beating Vic by a car length (or less). I qualified first overall with a time of 2:42, and had a best time during the race of 2:41, finishing first overall. > > And then there were all of the weekend festivities. The fans, watching the other races from various points on the track. Thunder Valley, Canada Corner, the Hurry Downs, and, of course, Turn 5, a great passing spot. Then off to Schwartz's Supper Club for dinner. > > I know you guys who go will have a great time, and you probably have great memories of the track as well. Everyone have a great time, whether racing or supporting. Good luck and be safe. > > Jack > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Dave Hogye via Fot > To: Chuck Gee > Cc: Friends of Triumph > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:18:16 PM EDT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America > > Go fast and have fun you guys. Thanks for the photo. Can?t wait for some videos. Dave H. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 14, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > > > ?Jerry Barker?s here too! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: > >> > >> ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > >>> > >>> ?Good to see the activity reports. > >>> > >>> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. > >>> > >>> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Joe Alexander > >>> 4505 Donald Dr > >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > >>> The-vintage-racer.com > >>> Gasketinnovations.com > >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 > >>> > >>> > >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. > >>>> > >>>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. > >>>> > >>>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. > >>>> > >>>> Paul > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. > >>>>> > >>>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! > >>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > >>>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> fot at autox.team.net > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>>>> > >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> fot at autox.team.net > >>>> > >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>>> > >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot at autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > >>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.c.cutter at gmail.com Sat May 15 20:08:38 2021 From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter) Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 05:08:38 +0300 Subject: [Fot] Another nomination, please In-Reply-To: <2b986937-ceed-1854-f82f-9c6214c595b1@compsnw.com> References: <2b986937-ceed-1854-f82f-9c6214c595b1@compsnw.com> Message-ID: Second for Jason as well! On Sat, May 15, 2021, 6:16 PM Alec Buchan via Fot wrote: > In preparing for the Kas Cup, we have found some fellow racers, not > included in FOT. > > I would like to nominate Jason Roosa who races a 1957 TR3A with SOVREN. > Last year was his Novice year and he has fit in very well, becoming a > contributing member of 'Drip Pan Alley'. The only problem I have with his > car is that MY WIFE says its the prettiest Triumph out there! > > Thank you, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4A #5 SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose' > -- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/david.c.cutter at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: emailsignature4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 22639 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From john.r.davies at btinternet.com Sun May 16 05:21:41 2021 From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (John Davies) Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 12:21:41 +0100 Subject: [Fot] recent request for a piston ring maker Message-ID: <1be2701d74a45$a5707b10$f0517130$@btinternet.com> I couldn't help Terry, who is looking for someone to make bespoke piston rings for a Pre-War Triumph. But I knew some men who did, or might do, so I posted on Sideways Technologies, and they were able to point Terry towards at least two possibilities! See: http://sideways-technologies.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/9327-piston-ring- makers/&tab=comments#comment-128337 And that is the power of the Internet! John From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Mon May 17 05:44:00 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 07:44:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists Message-ID: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the top 12. Impressive results. The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well driven. The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy sports racer that ran away from the field. The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get any better than this. From ofracer at gmail.com Mon May 17 05:58:50 2021 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 07:58:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Well done, the Jefferson is a great event. I expect a large turn out for many events this year. Our HRG event in June at Lime Rock filled up a month ago, we had to turn away cars. VSCCA had a vintage racing school two weeks ago with 27 cars entered, about twice the normal turn out. Get out, drive hard, have fun Never Be Beaten By Equipment (N3BN) mike h On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 7:44 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia > > The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car > count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 > cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph > powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the > top 12. Impressive results. > > The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the > Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, > anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well > driven. > > The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic > Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy > sports racer that ran away from the field. > > The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the > front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and > while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and > driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and > hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, > getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 > times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. > But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the > line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, > pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to > start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! > > Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get > any better than this. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 >> cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph >> powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the >> top 12. Impressive results. >> >> The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the >> Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, >> anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well >> driven. >> >> The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic >> Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy >> sports racer that ran away from the field. >> >> The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the >> front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and >> while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and >> driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and >> hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, >> getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 >> times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. >> But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the >> line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, >> pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to >> start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! >> >> Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get >> any better than this. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Very nice! Great job!!! Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:45 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia > > The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car > count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 > cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph > powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the > top 12. Impressive results. > > The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the > Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, > anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well > driven. > > The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic > Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy > sports racer that ran away from the field. > > The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the > front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and > while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and > driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and > hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, > getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 > times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. > But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the > line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, > pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to > start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! > > Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get > any better than this. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jake Jacobsen On Monday, May 17, 2021, 09:48:54 AM CDT, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: We had a nice group in attendance to salute Kas Kastner with the Kastner Commemorative Decal planted on Siebkens Wall of Fame. Right over the FOT Coat of Arms. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Mon May 17 09:11:30 2021 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 10:11:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kas=E2=80=99_Legacy_Sealed_at_Siebkens=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent! Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 On Mon, May 17, 2021, 9:49 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > We had a nice group in attendance to salute Kas Kastner with the Kastner > Commemorative Decal planted on Siebkens Wall of Fame. Right over the FOT > Coat of Arms. > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Mon May 17 10:32:55 2021 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 16:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> Excellent job, Henry, and congrats to you and Scott, Mark, Vic and ALL of the Triumph Racers (the Sukeys Russ, etc-? I lost count)!? I was "watching" the races live on Race Monitor, and I don't know how many times I said to my wife, " I wish I were there".? Everyone did really well.Thanks for the update.-- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 7:44 am Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph powered specials.? Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the top 12. Impressive results. The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well driven. The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy sports racer that ran away from the field. The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get any better than this. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsukey at gmail.com Mon May 17 11:02:52 2021 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 13:02:52 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I had a great weekend, it was the first time we've been out since MidOhio last year! I've sorted a lot of things (racecar AND driver related) since my last time at Summit Point; I set a new personal best lap by 4.5 seconds- my GT6 really felt good. I pulled off early during my Saturday PM race with what I suspect is a rear brake issue, haven't looked into it yet. Looking forward to PittRace! I feel bad for the Group 4/ Small bore guys; not a single full session all weekend without a black flag all....including the enduro! Jason Sukey On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:33 PM kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > Excellent job, Henry, and congrats to you and Scott, Mark, Vic and ALL of > the Triumph Racers (the Sukeys Russ, etc- I lost count)! I was "watching" > the races live on Race Monitor, and I don't know how many times I said to > my wife, " I wish I were there". Everyone did really well. > Thanks for the update.-- Jay De Pol > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yellow04 via Fot > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 7:44 am > Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists > > Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia > > The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car > count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 > cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph > powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the > top 12. Impressive results. > > The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the > Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, > anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well > driven. > > The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic > Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy > sports racer that ran away from the field. > > The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the > front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and > while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and > driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and > hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, > getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 > times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. > But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the > line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, > pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to > start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! > > Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get > any better than this. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Mon May 17 11:06:50 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 13:06:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98126311-98D7-4EB4-A2F6-C93AE462611B@me.com> yep, small bore did not get the breaks, though I ran 17 laps in the enduro, so that?s a good bit of track time. Lots of oil on the track from the small bore crowd with mechanical failures. On May 17, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: I had a great weekend, it was the first time we've been out since MidOhio last year! I've sorted a lot of things (racecar AND driver related) since my last time at Summit Point; I set a new personal best lap by 4.5 seconds- my GT6 really felt good. I pulled off early during my Saturday PM race with what I suspect is a rear brake issue, haven't looked into it yet. Looking forward to PittRace! I feel bad for the Group 4/ Small bore guys; not a single full session all weekend without a black flag all....including the enduro! Jason Sukey On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:33 PM kkjjk--- via Fot > wrote: Excellent job, Henry, and congrats to you and Scott, Mark, Vic and ALL of the Triumph Racers (the Sukeys Russ, etc- I lost count)! I was "watching" the races live on Race Monitor, and I don't know how many times I said to my wife, " I wish I were there". Everyone did really well. Thanks for the update.-- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 via Fot > To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 7:44 am Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the top 12. Impressive results. The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well driven. The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy sports racer that ran away from the field. The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get any better than this. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There were around 10 Triumphs in attendance. I ended up oiling down my Spitfire clutch Saturday morning because of a leaking transmission seal, but fixed it in time to win the DP race on Saturday afternoon! Mordy won the newly minted Kastner trophy for the highest finishing Triumph in the all British race later in the day (second overall, I was fourth). Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday. Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either. Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too. I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early. Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th. Sorry if I missed anyone else. We all had a great time hanging out at the track again. It?s fun to be around racing friends. Chuck Gee From terrysopher at gmail.com Mon May 17 12:50:40 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 14:50:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] VARA British Extravaganza In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0645E9C3-B808-4417-BD84-8B69FC04E8E5@gmail.com> Chuck - Sounds like a Great Weekend! Kudos to all. Terry > On May 17, 2021, at 14:26, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Hello all, > > We all had a great weekend at the 2021 BE this year. There were around 10 Triumphs in attendance. I ended up oiling down my Spitfire clutch Saturday morning because of a leaking transmission seal, but fixed it in time to win the DP race on Saturday afternoon! Mordy won the newly minted Kastner trophy for the highest finishing Triumph in the all British race later in the day (second overall, I was fourth). > > Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday. Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either. Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too. I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early. Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th. Sorry if I missed anyone else. > > We all had a great time hanging out at the track again. It?s fun to be around racing friends. > > Chuck Gee > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon May 17 14:43:33 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 15:43:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Dedication to the Kastner Legacy References: <0D44A81C-BD5C-46D8-8970-38C72219C8CE.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <0D44A81C-BD5C-46D8-8970-38C72219C8CE@cs.com> The Gehweiler?s GT6 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On?Monday, May 17, 2021,?Chuck Gee via Fot??wrote: Hello all, We all had a great weekend at the 2021 BE this year.? There were around 10 Triumphs in attendance.? I ended up oiling down my Spitfire clutch Saturday morning because of a leaking transmission seal, but fixed it in time to win the DP race on Saturday afternoon!? Mordy won the newly minted Kastner trophy for the highest finishing Triumph in the all British race later in the day (second overall, I was fourth).? Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday.? Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either.? Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too.? I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early.? Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th.? Sorry if I missed anyone else. 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Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday.? Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either.? Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too.? I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early.? Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th.? Sorry if I missed anyone else. We all had a great time hanging out at the track again.? It?s fun to be around racing friends. Chuck Gee _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Scott Janzen On May 17, 2021, at 4:43 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: The Gehweiler?s GT6 Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue May 18 07:59:20 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:59:20 -0400 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 Message-ID: on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levibud at icloud.com Tue May 18 09:19:07 2021 From: levibud at icloud.com (Bud Rolofson) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:19:07 -0600 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <703DD9BD-764F-4838-9E66-77EB563A79EB@icloud.com> My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL > On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Tue May 18 10:57:31 2021 From: kkjjk at aol.com (JAY DE POL) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 12:57:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: <703DD9BD-764F-4838-9E66-77EB563A79EB@icloud.com> References: <703DD9BD-764F-4838-9E66-77EB563A79EB@icloud.com> Message-ID: Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: > > ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL > >> On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >> >> on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Tue May 18 11:51:59 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 12:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ve never seen or heard of a warranty plate for a TR6 Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2021, at 11:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot wrote: > > ?Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL >> >>> On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >>> >>> on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Tue May 18 11:52:57 2021 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 11:52:57 -0600 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, I couldn?t resist temptation. I knew I should have apologized in advance to Safron folks. I?ve seen some really nice ones at VTR. Bud Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2021, at 10:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot wrote: > > ?Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL >> >>> On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >>> >>> on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Tue May 18 12:18:25 2021 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:18:25 -0400 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You get the warranty plate from the Telemarketers who call my house every afternoon, just as I crawl under something or get gasket compound on my hands. mike h On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:52 PM Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: > I?ve never seen or heard of a warranty plate for a TR6 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 18, 2021, at 11:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot > wrote: > > ?Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot > wrote: > > ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL > > On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot > wrote: > > on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Tue May 18 13:16:38 2021 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 19:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1628805028.1968067.1621365398084@mail.yahoo.com> No worries, Bud.? I was just bustin ya!? You just gotta warm up to the color, that's all!-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Bud To: JAY DE POL Cc: Bud Rolofson ; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Tue, May 18, 2021 1:52 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] $50k TR6 Sorry, I couldn?t resist temptation. I knew I should have apologized in advance to Safron folks. I?ve seen some really nice ones at VTR.Bud Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2021, at 10:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot wrote: ? Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: ? My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. ?Admittedly only 7400 miles. ?https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Tue May 18 19:53:04 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:53:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] The time has come - for sale Message-ID: <64B619C1-B207-4051-9340-5A60466E1464@gmail.com> Hello all, The time has come for me to sell my original race car. A 1973 Triumph Spitfire that I have raced since 1994. It was an SCCA race car when I bought it, but it has changed quite a bit since then. Here are some of the highlights: - 2007 Kastner Cup winner - 2007 VARA DP class champion - Numerous class and overall wins - Always a top performer, one of the fastest vintage Spitfires in the country - Barker/Gee 1500 cc engine with dual Webers with only one race weekend on it - Custom dog box transmission built in the stock Triumph case with Hewland gears - Close ratio single rail gearbox as a backup - Every differential ratio available (3.62, 3.89, 4.11, 4.55), mostly welded but one Detroit Locker - well sorted suspension - a spares package to last you a lifetime - 20? enclosed trailer Won DP class at the VARA British Extravaganza just this last weekend. Fast and reliable. Come pick it up and take it to the Portland Kastner Cup this year. You will do well! Asking $20,000 including the trailer and all the spares. If you think the price is too high, make me an offer. All I can say is no. 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I think Chuck's asking price including a very nice trailer is more than fair. Act quickly on this one! On Tue, May 18, 2021, 7:55 PM Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > Quick, someone loan me $19,950 dollars! > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alanb at alanberrydesign.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronnie.babbitt at gmail.com Wed May 19 08:32:44 2021 From: ronnie.babbitt at gmail.com (Ronnie Babbitt) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 10:32:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 Message-ID: ?I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no seal in place? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow for movement? The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Video.mov Type: video/quicktime Size: 708672 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Ronnie From chip at theukmotorsports.com Wed May 19 10:24:33 2021 From: chip at theukmotorsports.com (Chip Collingwood) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 12:24:33 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, the front flange holds the pinion bearings tight. Did you mark the nut and shaft before removing them and the flange. If not then it will be difficult to get the proper pinion pre-load and depth. Chip On Wed, May 19, 2021, 12:09 PM Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote: > I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I > removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front > pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When > assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no > seal in place? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow > for movement? > > The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing > spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. > > Ronnie_______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip at theukmotorsports.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Wed May 19 12:01:02 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 14:01:02 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <032C8A6D-F7F5-4E70-9732-F6261D3BCCC2@me.com> I would add that some of these diffs used a crushable spacer, I?m told, rather than a hard spacer and shims. In that case, I?m not sure you can simply re-tighten the nut. Yes, these are tapered bearings with a spacer in between. Here?s some instructions that summarize this better than I can. If you have a nut with a cotter pin, it would seem you are in luck. The pinion seal gets a bit more involved on later diff units; if yours has a castle nut and cotter pin holding the flange to the front of the pinion you can just take it off, remove the flange and swap out the seals re-torque the nut to the work shop manual spec. If instead you find a cap similar to a front wheel bearing cap and inside that a nylock nut you must be very careful to mark the shaft the flange and the nut so on reassembly you can get them back in EXACTLY the same relative positions; THIS INCLUDES TAKING A COUNT OF EXACTLY HOW MANY TURNS THE NUT TAKES. For example: you turn the nut 12 turns and three flats to get it off, then you must turn it twelve turns and three flats putting it on. Your marks should now line up. If they don't quite line up you can tweak the nut a bit to bring them into line. If they have gone beyond DON'T back off. The reason for this fussiness is that the pinion preload is set by a crush sleeve. If you get back to the same place the preload is not changed. If you go farther you change the preload, but in a worn unit it probably won't be off much it is only a fraction of a flat we're talking about. If you back off you release the preload. On May 19, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Chip Collingwood via Fot wrote: Yes, the front flange holds the pinion bearings tight. Did you mark the nut and shaft before removing them and the flange. If not then it will be difficult to get the proper pinion pre-load and depth. Chip On Wed, May 19, 2021, 12:09 PM Ronnie Babbitt via Fot > wrote: I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no seal in place? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow for movement? The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. Ronnie_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip at theukmotorsports.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed May 19 13:24:27 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 19:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2058597564.1355564.1621452267692@mail.yahoo.com> As already mentioned, this is super-critical, you need the pinion preload.Without it the gears will be out of mesh & won't last, too much will kill the bearings .If it's a spacer & shims, just torque it all back down and you're good.If collapsible sleeve, you're screwed, unless you get very lucky.If you have to go into into it I advise considering fitting a solid spacer w/shims, it's a much better setup. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Ronnie Babbitt via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, May 19, 2021 10:32 am Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no seal in place?? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow for movement? The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. Ronnie_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu May 20 06:40:31 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 07:40:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? Message-ID: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? Bob Kramer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 20 06:55:34 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 07:55:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0109C5F0-A767-4160-8AB9-378FB9E4AA14@gmail.com> I think you are correct. Trevor Harris, the chassis engineer, and Kas were very close. Kas never spoke much about the 300ZX, but he would likely know much about it. Trevor was one of the last people that visited Kas. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 20, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: > > ? > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 > > I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. > > Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? > > Bob Kramer > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 20 07:56:15 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 06:56:15 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? In-Reply-To: <0109C5F0-A767-4160-8AB9-378FB9E4AA14@gmail.com> References: <0109C5F0-A767-4160-8AB9-378FB9E4AA14@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8D8D0A04-D765-411B-87FD-AE7FC7CB845F@gmail.com> Kas had overall responsibility for the Nissan Motorsport program during his time there. His firm thumbprint is on all of those cars, not just the GTP program. I think Carolla is collecting Paul Newman only. He still needs the Triumph 2000 sedan? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2021, at 5:55 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?I think you are correct. > > Trevor Harris, the chassis engineer, and Kas were very close. Kas never spoke much about the 300ZX, but he would likely know much about it. > > Trevor was one of the last people that visited Kas. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >>> On May 20, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 >> >> I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. >> >> Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? >> >> Bob Kramer >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhasty at mhc-law.com Thu May 20 10:23:45 2021 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 16:23:45 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shucks, it?s just up the road from me...I?ll check it out if you guys are considering a purchase.,. Sent from my iPhone On May 20, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: ? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? Bob Kramer _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at artwithcars.com Thu May 20 10:31:04 2021 From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 09:31:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] VARA All British race from Saturday, 5/14 Message-ID: Here?s my in-car race from Buttonwillow. The TR3 had some overheating issues all day but I finished 1st in class every session. Great fun with great friends. At the end of lap 1 there?s an exciting moment. I possibly overreacted and moved off the track to avoid contact. 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Dave Connitt Sent from my iPhone From timmmurphh at gmail.com Fri May 21 15:45:10 2021 From: timmmurphh at gmail.com (timmmurphh at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:45:10 -0500 Subject: [Fot] $4.42 per quart Valvoline VR1 20W-50 high zinc racing oil at Amazon Message-ID: <000a01d74e8a$9786db90$c69492b0$@gmail.com> Amazon.com has this oil for $4.42 per quart when purchased in three, 5-quart bottles. It is eligible for free Prime delivery. Your sales tax will be added to the charge. Tim Murphy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Your sales tax will be added to the charge. > > Tim Murphy > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please fill out the survey here: https://ccfot.com/survey/ If email is more your thing, reach out to me here: Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com If no response can be paired with an email address on the roster, we are assuming that email address is no longer being monitored, or the recipient no longer wants our email. Email addresses of non-responders will be removed from Mark's server, and will stop getting FOT mail. If you filled out the survey once, we have it. No email confirmation of a successful submission was sent, after you submitted the survey the web page returned a message indicating the submission was successful. If you don't submit a survey, get dropped, then reach out later to see why you are not getting our email, you are causing more work for the volunteers that make all this happen. That's time I'd rather be spending in the shop working on my race car... Everybody's cooperation is greatly appreciated! Cheers From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sat May 22 15:42:58 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 16:42:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?3_Decals=2E__FOT_Coat_of_Arms=2C_=E2=80=9COK_TO_?= =?utf-8?q?RACE=E2=80=9D=2C_Kas_Commemorative_Decal?= Message-ID: <6E52B70D-33D4-4DAE-91D8-9199F9239291@gmail.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59427 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- FOT: People are asking, so......... We have a limited quantity of each. $2.50 each. $10 Min.. Order. State Quantity of Each. PayPal: n197tr4 at cs.com. Or Check. Have envelopes, stamps, and ready to ship. Thanks, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 27 08:28:12 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 09:28:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Long Door - Joel & Pam Justin's TR2 Message-ID: The FOT list is primarily a list for DRIVERS, but we have our supporting ?CREW? members. John Linney has produced two films for The Kastner Cup, as well as the Kastner/Brock/TR250K Reunion. Now he has won an award for his work with Moss Motors. THE SILVER TELLY award. We will see John again at Portland. Congratulations, John! https://www.tellyawards.com/winners/2021/branded-content/general-promotional/long-door-joel-pam-justins-tr2/247865?fbclid=IwAR0xjnvVBV617djwbN4bhfnzqJCkpA4_r3eZJ6k9Esz23hDetHIb0X_4FgE Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From alfetta95 at optonline.net Fri May 28 15:46:24 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 17:46:24 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spring Cleaning Message-ID: Amici Spring cleaning the garage getting ready for the next project. I have many parts for the TR3 that I didn?t use for various reasons. Does anyone want the following items (make me an offer)or is there really any reasons to keep them. 2 Generators 2 Starters Non-adjustable steering column Pair front calipers Radiator Several copper head gaskets Bumper overriders. Both front and rear Engine fan Todd 1958 TR3a. TS 29341 From alfetta95 at optonline.net Sat May 29 06:16:53 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Redmond) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 08:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Spring Cleaning Message-ID: <1126480674.257044.1622290613692@mymail.optimum.net> Amici Spring cleaning the garage getting ready for the next project. I have many parts for the TR3 that I didn't use for various reasons. Does anyone want the following items, (make me an offer) or is there really any reasons to keep them? 2 generators 2 later style starters Non-adjustable steering column Pair of front calipers, early type Radiator Several copper head gaskets Bumper over riders Engine fan blade TR4 steering rack Thanks Todd 1958 TR3a TS29341 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They will be expensive, probably $75ish each depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some available for testing in the next 60 days or so. > > Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro issues or is it just the Spitfires? > > If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will start a list. > > Rick Parent > > "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences" > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sat May 29 07:27:48 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> Yeah the Big-TR is a candidate, the problem is largely the (lack of) quality of the replacements on the market today... Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Rick Parent via Fot To: FOT Triumph Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:08 am Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated Syncro's with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 transmissions, you know parts that last more than one weekend and probably last a lifetime comparatively speaking. The questions is, is anyone interested? They will be expensive, probably $75ish each depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some available for testing in the next 60 days or so. Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro issues or is it just the Spitfires? If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will start a list. Rick Parent "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences" _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Sat May 29 07:35:08 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 09:35:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Important - News on sponsoring new members Message-ID: We are winding up the cleanup of the inactive email addresses, and the tally is impressive. Look for the final numbers soon. As we worked through the process, we gave a lot of thought on how to keep better track of the membership. We realized we need to do an annual roll call and clarify the process we use to add new members. While the "we don?t have any rules" thing has worked well for 25 years, we are tweaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much how our self-policing group has been doing it, we just never put words to the process because we didn?t need to. And for the record, we are calling this a "guideline", not a rule! As opposed to the nomination process we have been using, we will use a "sponsorship" process going forward. First, we have the designations. All FOT members now fall into one of two categories. Drivers or Crew. Drivers are active and former drivers who turn (or have turned) the steering wheel in sanctioned competition in a Triumph or Triumph powered race car. Anyone not falling into that category will now be referred to as Crew. Only Drivers can sponsor new members. If the new member is an active or former driver, it's a done deal, we have a new FOT member. No seconds needed, we are counting on our existing Driver members to vet the new folks they sponsor. If a Driver wants to sponsor someone who is not another driver, i.e. become part of the FOT Crew, or someone who is actively on the path to becoming a driver in a Triumph they should submit that request to our membership committee through me. We think this clarification makes sense to keep our membership on point and strong. The FOT is proudly keeping Triumphs on track and relevant! Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com keeper of the website and membership roster From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Sat May 29 07:38:19 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 09:38:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] New Member Sponsorship - Mike Kurtz Message-ID: <44cb14e8675aa881171949fbf5539806@tr4racer.com> FOT - This is how we see the new sponsorship system working... I am sponsoring Mike Kurtz to join our ranks and become an FOT member. Mike is a new TR6 racer we met at Summit Point this month, from Mohnton, PA. He is the new owner of a very nicely prepared TR6 race car, he went through the VRG driver's school and did quite well with our friend Rich Rock crewing for him. Unfortunately, clutch issues prevented him from running the event over the weekend, so he has already indoctrinated to our "Never be beaten by equipment" mantra. We have since spent a bunch of time on the phone going over the finer points of climbing the steep learning curve, it's clear to me we have a new driver in our ranks. Remember, no need to "second" anything here, but if you know Mike, or Mike's car, or anything else of interest about my sponsoring Mike, by all means post away! From vfracing at aol.com Sat May 29 07:54:43 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Important - News on sponsoring new members In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2111672675.809519.1622296483411@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for doing this, Henry!Phil -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:36 am Subject: [Fot] Important - News on sponsoring new members We are winding up the cleanup of the inactive email addresses, and the tally is impressive. Look for the final numbers soon. As we worked through the process, we gave a lot of thought on how to keep better track of the membership. We realized we need to do an annual roll call and clarify the process we use to add new members. While the "we don?t have any rules" thing has worked well for 25 years, we are tweaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much how our self-policing group has been doing it, we just never put words to the process because we didn?t need to.? And for the record, we are calling this a "guideline", not a rule! As opposed to the nomination process we have been using, we will use a "sponsorship" process going forward. First, we have the designations. All FOT members now fall into one of two categories. Drivers or Crew. Drivers are active and former drivers who turn (or have turned) the steering wheel in sanctioned competition in a Triumph or Triumph powered race car. Anyone not falling into that category will now be referred to as Crew. Only Drivers can sponsor new members. If the new member is an active or former driver, it's a done deal, we have a new FOT member. No seconds needed, we are counting on our existing Driver members to vet the new folks they sponsor. If a Driver wants to sponsor someone who is not another driver, i.e. become part of the FOT Crew, or someone who is actively on the path to becoming a driver in a Triumph they should submit that request to our membership committee through me. We think this clarification makes sense to keep our membership on point and strong. The FOT is proudly keeping Triumphs on track and relevant! Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com keeper of the website and membership roster _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Sat May 29 09:52:48 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 11:52:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> Most gearboxes I assemble these days have good, used OEM syncros installed, I have been having good results doing that. I did put a set of the Bastuck (German made) syncros in my Stag street car, the gearbox shifts fine but I don't drive that car even remotely aggressively. I didn't realize anybody was having issues with those German syncros. Am I missing something? On 2021-05-29 09:27, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > Yeah the Big-TR is a candidate, the problem is largely the (lack of) > quality of the replacements on the market today... > > Glen Efinger > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Parent via Fot > To: FOT Triumph > Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:08 am > Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's > > So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated > Syncro's with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 > transmissions, you know parts that last more than one weekend and > probably last a lifetime comparatively speaking. The questions is, is > anyone interested? They will be expensive, probably $75ish each > depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some > available for testing in the next 60 days or so. > > Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro > issues or is it just the Spitfires? > > If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will > start a list. From tedtsimx at bright.net Sat May 29 11:06:30 2021 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:06:30 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: The original synchros were good but as the brass "grippers" wore down, they would not slow the gears sufficiently enough.? We fixed this years ago - just face the synchro about .010" or so.? It buries the synchro deeper onto the cone and in essence you have new "grippers" on synchro ring. Ted On 5/29/2021 11:52 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Most gearboxes I assemble these days have good, used OEM syncros > installed, I have been having good results doing that. I did put a set > of the Bastuck (German made) syncros in my Stag street car, the > gearbox shifts fine but I don't drive that car even remotely > aggressively. I didn't realize anybody was having issues with those > German syncros. Am I missing something? > > On 2021-05-29 09:27, fubog1 via Fot wrote: >> Yeah the Big-TR is a candidate, the problem is largely the (lack of) >> quality of the replacements on the market today... >> >> Glen Efinger >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rick Parent via Fot >> To: FOT Triumph >> Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:08 am >> Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's >> >> So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated >> Syncro's with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 >> transmissions, you know parts that last more than one weekend and >> probably last a lifetime comparatively speaking. The questions is, is >> anyone interested? They will be expensive, probably $75ish each >> depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some >> available for testing in the next 60 days or so. >> >> Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro >> issues or is it just the Spitfires? >> >> If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will >> start a list. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx at bright.net > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 103 E. Main St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat May 29 15:17:37 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 07:17:37 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: dont forget, a f good part of the "syncro problem" in all these gearboxes is worn out mating outer sleeves, gear tapers and dog teeth the "big" gearbox in TR's, Salons & Stags all have much the same issue, and you might find an even bigger application/market there Most of the repro syncros ive seen for the "big" box are worse than worn out factory ones. The most common problems ive enountereed are wrong brass used for the backing, wrong cone angle and wrong dog teeth shape, with a few even being badly out of round, so doomed to failure. whilst ive not been doing such repairs commercially for a few years now, at the end of my triumph gearbox building career, we were dismantling dozens of old gearboxes just to raid 1st and 4th syncro rings and move them into other boxes needing 2nd and 3rd. this was better than the new ones on offer at the time from vendors like Moss, Rimmers etc and even some of the UK's specialist transmission parts suppliers (basically, the people making them). ive had a fair bit of recent experience with coated syncro rings in late model Toyota gearboxes in race applications. . The factory coating has gone thru several iterations , some of them not very good at all, so caution on this front also. our race Lotus has syncros supplied by a US firm https://synchrotech-transmissions.com/carbon-synchros keep us all informed please. US$75 is not unexpected or unreasonable for a boutique order, if they actually work!. The Toyota gearbox "carbon" syncros currenty retail for about US$45-$50 ea Terry On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 11:10 PM Rick Parent via Fot wrote: > So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated Syncro's > with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 transmissions, you know > parts that last more than one weekend and probably last a lifetime > comparatively speaking. The questions is, is anyone interested? They will > be expensive, probably $75ish each depending on the size of the order I can > place. I should have some available for testing in the next 60 days or so. > > Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro issues > or is it just the Spitfires? > > If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will start > a list. > > Rick Parent > > "*Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of > consequences*" > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I didn't realize anybody was having issues with those > German syncros. Am I missing something? From 4msonset at gmail.com Mon May 31 19:34:29 2021 From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 18:34:29 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Even Bill Cosby can't handle the Shelby Cobra - YouTube Message-ID: <867FA6F0-E346-4BC7-A556-D8F8C08C1940@gmail.com> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bpn-dCoNNc&feature=youtu.be From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sat May 1 15:15:21 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 21:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Early TR Starters In-Reply-To: <206345383.185794.1619892426412@mail.yahoo.com> References: <206345383.185794.1619892426412.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <206345383.185794.1619892426412@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <786875186.194505.1619903722258@mail.yahoo.com> I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it bounced back.? I've had this problem before.? So excuse the extra emails, but I'm sending it this time with 1 picture.? If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. Jack Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used up to VIN 50,000?? I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing! Attached are some pictures.? As you can see, part of the bendix is still on the shaft.? There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding it on.? Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaft? Many thanks. Jack PS.? If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a big help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jeffreykelley at charter.net Sat May 1 17:20:45 2021 From: jeffreykelley at charter.net (jeffreykelley at charter.net) Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 23:20:45 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Early TR Starters Message-ID: ? Attached is the starter section of the TR Service manual. In the earliest starters they used a left hand threaded nut as the locating nut (pictured in Fig. 19-G) and it was replaced in later models with a locating washer held in place by a Circlip. The two different armatures are interchangeable as a unit. It is hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like you have the later design and the clip has been removed. If this is true then it should slide apart giving you access to the rubber shock bushing which probably needs to be changed. Jeff Kelley On May 1, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: ? I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it bounced back. I've had this problem before. So excuse the extra emails, but I'm sending it this time with 1 picture. If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. Jack Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used up to VIN 50,000? I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing! Attached are some pictures. As you can see, part of the bendix is still on the shaft. There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding it on. Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaft? Many thanks. Jack PS. If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a big help. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net [1]http://www.fot-racing.com [2] Donate: [3]http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] Archive: [5]http://autox.team.net/archive [6] [7]http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot [8] Unsubscribe/Manage: [9]http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net [10] Links: ------ [1] http://www.fot-racing.com [2] http://www.fot-racing.com [3] http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] http://www.team.net/donate.html [5] http://autox.team.net/archive [6] http://autox.team.net/archive [7] http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot [8] http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. > > Jack > > > Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used up to VIN 50,000? I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing! > > Attached are some pictures. As you can see, part of the bendix is still on the shaft. There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding it on. Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaft? > > Many thanks. > > Jack > > PS. If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a big help. > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link - https://ccfot.com/survey/ This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly appreciate everyone's cooperation. Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of stuff From rpierce141 at gmail.com Sun May 2 05:57:59 2021 From: rpierce141 at gmail.com (Rod Pierce) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 07:57:59 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. engine.jpg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Sun May 2 07:01:36 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 13:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <568577012.3506407.1619960496269@mail.yahoo.com> sorry to see - certainly looks like pre-ignition/detonation damage - timing too far advanced/bad or low octane gas/too lean (most likely from the looks of the pistons) Arias or Venolia for pistons and pins Carrillo for the rods? Total Seal Gapless rings if the bores are not too bad you might get away with pistons, bearings rings etc On Sunday, May 2, 2021, 07:01:36 AM CDT, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. ? engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sun May 2 08:35:13 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 14:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1398013048.1463255.1619966113337@mail.yahoo.com> Welcome Rod, looks like you got baptized into the cult of racing TRs...!That engine probably has more wrong with it than the obvious hole in the piston and 0-ring seal damage between #1 & 2.The 1st thing that you might do is to read all of the late, great Kas Ks books, all you could ever want to know about Spitfires. Re spare engine, just a few points-I would go with a conservative mild-spec engine to start with so you can get some seat time; doing a full-race spec will guarantee that you spend more time in the pits than on track.The rear gear ratio will determine RPM range, so if it has a 4.10 it'll be pretty "buzzy", = shorter service life. As mentioned, use good parts, rods, pistons, bearings, etc.Pay very close attention to clearances during assembly.Balance all recip & rotating. Crank thrust is weak area, several mods can be done.I advise accusump & oberg be fitted.Crack-check the crank on a regular basis, TBD by RPM range you run.Driveline-The gearbox is a POS.Use GT-6 gears for good ratio but it's still a POS.Driveshafts are VERY sensitive to imbalance, make sure it's done right. NOTE-Rear axles are more important than ANYTHING else on a racing Spitfire, when one breaks you're likely going over, and we have numerous members of that club right here. I wouldn't consider putting a Spit on track for serious competition w/stock axles, and the availability of replacements is limited. Also once all is done get the car on a good maintenance & inspection program. Just a few points to consider that may help maximize track time, hope it helps, others will jump in with more. Glen Efinger ps- attaching a copy of my checklist, don't know if it will work, if not email me if you want a copy -----Original Message----- From: Rod Pierce via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, May 2, 2021 7:57 am Subject: [Fot] Rebuild Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? 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COMMENTS_________________ | | | 1 | safety pin fire bottle | | | | 2 | check leakdown | 1- __%, 2- __%, 3- __%, 4- __%, 5- __%, 6- __% | | | 3 | torque cylinder head | | | | 4 | valve lash spec- in- ___ ex- ___ H-C | | | | 5 | visual check valve springs, rockers | | | | 6 | valve cover gasket condition | | | | 7 | water pump pulley & hub condition | | | | 8 | alternator mounting & security | | | | 9 | drive belt condition & tension | | | | 10 | ignition distributor & low tension | | | | 11 | dist cap, coil & high tension circuit | | | | 12 | check ignition timing | | | | 13 | fuel lines secure | | | | 14 | air filters clean & secure | | | | 15 | check carb pistons free movement | | | | 16 | R&R carb pots/pistons & clean | | | | 17 | throttle linkage security & WOT | | | | 18 | front hubs for wear/adjustment | | | | 19 | steering linkage loose/bent | | | | 20 | visual a-arms, brackets, & chassis | | | | 21 | steering box/rack wear/looseness | | | | 22 | front discs scoring/wear/runout | | | | 23 | front calipers leaks/sticking | | | | 24 | R&R & dedust front pads | | | | 25 | check shock travel indicators | | | | 26 | nut & bolt check front suspension | | | | 27 | rear hubs wear/excessive play | | | | 27 | rear axle flange nut torque | | | | 29 | R&R rear drums scoring/wear | | | | 30 | rear wheel cylinders & hoses | | | | 31 | rear shoes inspect & adjust | | | | 32 | nut & bolt check rear suspension | | | | 33 | visual check driveline | | | | 34 | tighten driveshaft & halfshaft bolts | | | | 35 | visual check u-joints | | | | 36 | check engine oil level | | | | 37 | check brake fluid level | | | | 38 | check gearbox oil level | | | | 39 | check rear axle oil level | | | | 40 | check steering box/rack oil level | | | | 41 | change engine oil | | | | 42 | Inspect/change oil filter | | | | 43 | change gearbox oil | | | | 44 | change rear axle oil | | | | 45 | inspect/clean overdrive filter | | | | 46 | visual check clutch linkage | | | | 47 | check master cylinders for leakage | | | | 48 | tire condition | L/F- R/F- L/R- R/R- | | | 49 | lug nut torque | | | | 50 | Accusump system secure & charged | | | | 51 | mirrors clean & secure | | | | 52 | coolant level | | | | 53 | pressure check cooling system | | | | 54 | radiator cap condition | | | | 55 | coolant recovery system | | | | 56 | check/clean vent cans | | | | 57 | check instruments & switches | | | | 58 | charge battery & check security | | | | 59 | check fuel level | | | | | | | | 60 | fuel filler cap secure | | | | 61 | check security all bodywork | | | | 62 | check brake light | | | | 63 | tire pressure | | | | 64 | change brake fluid | | | | 65 | Check fuel cell foam | | | | + | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). > > I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). > > There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. > > Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. > > Thanks for you help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? engine.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Tue May 4 11:30:29 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 17:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: <700F16CD-ECAC-49B8-B2EC-C9F9E3097797@icloud.com> References: <700F16CD-ECAC-49B8-B2EC-C9F9E3097797@icloud.com> Message-ID: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot To: Rod Pierce Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know.I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. Bud On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. ? engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Tue May 4 12:28:43 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 13:28:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, GT6). Building a few of those motors in near future. Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > ? > ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Rod Pierce > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild > > The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know. > I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. > > Bud > >> On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). >> >> I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). >> >> There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. >> >> Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. >> >> Thanks for you help. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> engine.jpg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Tue May 4 12:59:11 2021 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 14:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Spit Happens Decals Message-ID: <722867696.1705929.1620154751233@myemail.cox.net> Several months ago I did a special run of ?Spit Happens? decals like the one in the attached photo. I have a few remaining in inventory in various colors that need to move since there is a limited shelf life. (The adhesive tends to stick to the backing material after a time making it more difficult to remove). These decals were offered for $15.00 and for the sake of this promotion, I am offering them for $10.00 while supplies last. That includes free shipping to anywhere inside the USA. Here is a list of what is left. I will reserve decals for anyone who sends me an email with a request. Yellow 3 Blue 3 Silver 1 White 1 Cheers, Joe Curry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Coordinating group buys or anything is never easy. >> >> Regards >> Bud >> >>> On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer > wrote: >>> >>> Good morning. >>> I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it. >>> >>> ~Steve >>> >>> >>>> On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hi Steve, >>>> >>>> What?s the status of the Kas stickers? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Bud >>>> >>>>> On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Bud, >>>>> >>>>> I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. >>>>> >>>>> If you use PayPal, please send $8 to steve at artwithcars.com >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> ~Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>> I would like four stickers please. >>>>>> Thanks for doing the stickers. >>>>>> Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? >>>>>> My address is: >>>>>> Bud Rolofson >>>>>> 220 Carr St. >>>>>> Lakewood Colorado. 80226 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Bud >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Commodore 64 >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear FOT, >>>>>>> As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. If you want one, please send me a private email to steve at artwithcars.com >>>>>>> No need to reply to the entire FOT group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next Kastner Cup to help pay expenses >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6? x 3.75? oval >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~Steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bownes at web9.com Tue May 4 14:35:18 2021 From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 16:35:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> Message-ID: Pretty sure it is applicable to the 1147 as well, seeing as how I lost countless engines to #3 rod bearings melting down and requesting exit via the side of the block. On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:33 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, > GT6). Building a few of those motors in near future. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > ? > ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important > mods to the oiling system. > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Rod Pierce > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild > > The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil > feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil > passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a > grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not > done. Ask me how I know. > I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. > > Bud > > On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first > experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end > well for my engine (see attachment). > > I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting > advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the > spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so > mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods > ,rings etc..). > > There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of > these before I am interested in your input. > > Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and > rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap > of my transmission or rearend. > > Thanks for you help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > engine.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Tue May 4 16:46:30 2021 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 16:46:30 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> Message-ID: <014a01d74137$54b47bc0$fe1d7340$@comcast.net> ?requesting exit via the side of the block? -or_ Rapid un-scheduled disassembly _or_ Non-linear, catastrophic mechanical exasperation From: Fot On Behalf Of robert bownes via Fot Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:35 PM To: Greg Blake Cc: FOT ; fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild Pretty sure it is applicable to the 1147 as well, seeing as how I lost countless engines to #3 rod bearings melting down and requesting exit via the side of the block. On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:33 PM Greg Blake via Fot > wrote: I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, GT6). Building a few of those motors in near future. Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot > wrote: ? ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Rod Pierce > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know. I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. Bud On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot > wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue May 4 17:43:11 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 18:43:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Any Interest in a TR3 Race Car? References: Message-ID: I am in the process of collecting more information. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.png Type: image/png Size: 580997 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From fmccjr at aol.com Tue May 4 21:45:07 2021 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 03:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Kas - Stickers In-Reply-To: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> References: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <42192800.592077.1620186307218@mail.yahoo.com> Mine arrived today,?as well. Very nice.I?ll?figure out where to put on?in my car before the Spring Sprints this weekend-?someplace where it will inspire not just myself,?but no doubt?anyone else?who sees it and knows the skinny. Thanks for doing it, Steve! Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 3:59 PM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: Got my Kas stickers today. Really nice. ?Great job Steve. Bud On May 4, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: You?re welcome! ?I didn?t realize how challenging it can be. I hope you like the stickers? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Cool. Thanks for doing the stickers. Coordinating group buys or anything is never easy. RegardsBud On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: Good morning.?I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it.? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Hi Steve, What?s the status of the Kas stickers? ThanksBud On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: Hi Bud, I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. If you use PayPal, please send $8 to?steve at artwithcars.com Thanks ~Steve On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: Hi Steve, I would like four stickers please. Thanks for doing the stickers. Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? My address is: Bud Rolofson 220 Carr St. Lakewood Colorado. 80226 Thanks Bud Sent from my Commodore 64 On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot wrote: Dear FOT, As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. ?If you want one, please send me a private email to steve at artwithcars.com No need to reply to the entire FOT group. ? $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next Kastner Cup to help pay expenses 6? x 3.75? oval ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Tue May 4 22:20:12 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 21:20:12 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Kas Sticker Message-ID: <4AAE7659-A2D1-4FB4-8B1B-A99918AA05B4@gmail.com> Place of honor. 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The candidates are: Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events. They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. JJD [A group of people posing for a photo next to a race car Description automatically generated with medium confidence] Jim Dolan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 299625 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed May 5 06:46:57 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 07:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FoT New Member Proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Done! I have three offspring on the list. Can anyone make it FOUR? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 5, 2021, at 7:44 AM, James J Dolan wrote: > > ? > Friends of Triumph, > > I would like to propose three members to the Friends of Triumph. > All are avid Triumph vintage racers and have competed in previous Kastner Cup events in Triumph GT6?s. > Full disclosure - I also raised these guys from birth and endured years of their high school antics. > > These men are proven drivers, carry SCCA, SVRA, VMC and FIA racing licenses and have incident free records over their racing careers. > They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost. > > The candidates are: > > Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA > > Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. > > Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events. > > They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. > I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. > > I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. > > JJD > > > > Jim Dolan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed May 5 07:39:42 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 13:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1427033735.352090.1620221982502@mail.yahoo.com> All of the Spit engines, it's in the design, the feed port to the center main is directly behind the dist/oil pump shaft bush. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: robert bownes via Fot To: Greg Blake Cc: FOT ; fubog1 Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild Pretty sure it is applicable to the 1147 as well, seeing as how I lost countless engines to #3 rod bearings melting down and requesting exit via the side of the block. On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:33 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, GT6).? Building a few of those motors in near future. ? Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot To: Rod Pierce Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know.I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. Bud On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. ? engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed May 5 07:40:53 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 13:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Kas - Stickers In-Reply-To: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> References: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1689903499.405108.1620222053531@mail.yahoo.com> Got mine too thanks again Steve! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot To: Steven Belfer Cc: fot Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 3:58 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas - Stickers Got my Kas stickers today. Really nice. ?Great job Steve. Bud On May 4, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: You?re welcome! ?I didn?t realize how challenging it can be. I hope you like the stickers? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Cool. Thanks for doing the stickers. Coordinating group buys or anything is never easy. RegardsBud On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: Good morning.?I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it.? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Hi Steve, What?s the status of the Kas stickers? ThanksBud On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: Hi Bud, I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. If you use PayPal, please send $8 to?steve at artwithcars.com Thanks ~Steve On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: Hi Steve, I would like four stickers please. Thanks for doing the stickers. Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? My address is: Bud Rolofson 220 Carr St. Lakewood Colorado. 80226 Thanks Bud Sent from my Commodore 64 On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot wrote: Dear FOT, As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. ?If you want one, please send me a private email to steve at artwithcars.com No need to reply to the entire FOT group. ? $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next Kastner Cup to help pay expenses 6? x 3.75? oval ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Sean Alexander via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 5:02 pm Subject: [Fot] TR4 Head ~ Combustion Chamber CC / Material Removed From Head Please share?the combustion?chamber volume and head thickness for different?setups that have been tried on the TR4 head Sean _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adcronin at mi.rr.com Wed May 5 13:40:51 2021 From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 15:40:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Head ~ Combustion Chamber CC / Material Removed From Head In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B7D6DA1-987C-43D5-9687-D8579E793745@mi.rr.com> Sean I will share some of the mastications I have been going thru as I continue on the resto-modding of my 55 TR2 with 3B block, 4A head and manifolds, 89 mm bore, etc stock head was shaved initially by having 0.020 removed to eliminate some prior scars (3.330 - 0.020 = 3.310?). Chamber had some minor work to smooth out sharp edges, and relieve some of the shrouding resulting in a chamber area of 61.75 average cc?s for a static CR using a 0.032 copper gasket of 9.43 +/- Had an add?l 0.020 shaved to eliminate some careless scars from some add?l chamber work resulting in an average chamber cc of 62.38 and still using the 0.032 copper gasket (Mordy D) yielding a CR of 9.35+/- Did some more shrouding work and sent head out for some manifold port matching and roller rocker alignment work as well as an add?l 0.010 head milling (so 0.050 total material removed from the stock head for an new height of 3.280?), with a better smoothness ratio for use with Mordy?s 0.022 copper gasket. Also to have the shop cc the combustion chambers after the work is completed. Aiming for a final CR of around 9.75+/- Motor has 270 duration cam, Moodys 5 dummy main billet crank, Corrello rods, BFE 89 mm piston and liner set, IJ teflon crank scraper and baffles, uprated oil pump with Dodge Ram pickup from IJ, SS valves with oversize intake and hardened exhaust seats. HS roller rockers on hardened shaft and alloy pedestals. Crain electronic ignition, Fidanza alloy flywheel, diaphragm clutch, ATI super damper, alloy front motor plate, alloy rocker cover and sump, alloy radiator and soft start electronic fan with thin belt conversion to uprated water pump and alternator. HS6 carbs on 4A intake and exhaust. Gear reduction starter. Toyota 5 speed, Quaife diff with 4.11 gears and alloy drive shaft, 4 wheel disk brakes, 4 wheel tube shocks, uprated front spindles and alloy hubs, RATCO frame modified to take full TR6 front suspension including front sway bar. Oil cooler with thermostat and spin on filter. Hope to be on the road soon! On May 4, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Sean Alexander via Fot wrote: Please share the combustion chamber volume and head thickness for different setups that have been tried on the TR4 head Sean _ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_3668.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 23712 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed May 5 14:45:46 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 15:45:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kas - Stickers In-Reply-To: <1689903499.405108.1620222053531@mail.yahoo.com> References: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> <1689903499.405108.1620222053531@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When I got back from the track I found an envelope with Kas stickers from Steve and a little box with a Safety Braker from Jack Wheeler. Thanks again fellows. Bob Kramer On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:23 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > Got mine too thanks again Steve! > > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Steven Belfer > Cc: fot > Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 3:58 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas - Stickers > > Got my Kas stickers today. Really nice. Great job Steve. > > Bud > > On May 4, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > You?re welcome! I didn?t realize how challenging it can be. I hope you > like the stickers > > ~Steve > > > On May 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > ? Cool. > > Thanks for doing the stickers. Coordinating group buys or anything is > never easy. > > Regards > Bud > > On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > Good morning. > I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it. > > ~Steve > > > On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > ? Hi Steve, > > What?s the status of the Kas stickers? > > Thanks > Bud > > On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > Hi Bud, > > I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. > > If you use PayPal, please send $8 to steve at artwithcars.com > > Thanks > > ~Steve > > > On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > Hi Steve, > I would like four stickers please. > Thanks for doing the stickers. > Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? > My address is: > Bud Rolofson > 220 Carr St. > Lakewood Colorado. 80226 > > Thanks > Bud > > Sent from my Commodore 64 > > On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot > wrote: > > Dear FOT, > As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to > be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. If you want one, please send me > a private email to steve at artwithcars.com > No need to reply to the entire FOT group. > > $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next > Kastner Cup to help pay expenses > > > 6? x 3.75? oval > > ~Steve > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Wed May 5 16:43:34 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 22:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] FoT New Member Proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <924330408.968461.1620254614933@mail.yahoo.com> I'll second -? On Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 04:37:52 PM CDT, James J Dolan via Fot wrote: Friends of Triumph, ? I would like to propose three members to the Friends of Triumph. All are avid Triumph vintage racers and have competed in previous Kastner Cup events in Triumph GT6?s. Full disclosure - I also raised these guys from birth and endured years of their high school antics. ? These men are proven drivers, carry SCCA, SVRA, VMC and FIA racing licenses and have incident free records over their racing careers. They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost.? ? The candidates are: ? Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA ? Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. ? Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events.?? ? They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. ? I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. ? JJD ? ? Jim Dolan ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost.? ? The candidates are: ? Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA ? Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. ? Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events.?? ? They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. ? I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. ? JJD ? ? Jim Dolan ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2021, at 6:46 PM, fmccjr via Fot wrote: > > ? ?,?,?. > > 3 seconds, in a nanosecond. > > Rick McCurdy > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 5:37 PM, James J Dolan via Fot wrote: > > Friends of Triumph, > > > > I would like to propose three members to the Friends of Triumph. > > All are avid Triumph vintage racers and have competed in previous Kastner Cup events in Triumph GT6?s. > > Full disclosure - I also raised these guys from birth and endured years of their high school antics. > > > > These men are proven drivers, carry SCCA, SVRA, VMC and FIA racing licenses and have incident free records over their racing careers. > > They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost. > > > > The candidates are: > > > > Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA > > > > Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. > > > > Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events. > > > > They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. > > I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. > > > > I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. > > > > JJD > > > > > > > > Jim Dolan > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. https://ccfot.com/survey/ If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! Cheers On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > remember everybody! > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > stuff From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 6 11:07:07 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 10:07:07 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: <140a1e7f7ee13e3852ed61782c0a8e27@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an > effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill > out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You > are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first > message... > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out > the form and submit it. > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said > your form was submitted, we have it! > > Cheers > > > On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > > remember everybody! > > > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > > stuff > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:17:14 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 19:17:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. Or is that too much? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > >> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >> message... >> >> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >> possibly getting dropped from the list. >> >> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >> the form and submit it. >> >> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> >> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >> >> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >> >> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >> your form was submitted, we have it! >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >> > remember everybody! >> > >> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >> > >> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> > >> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >> > >> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >> > >> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >> > stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:34:59 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:34:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> I just thought it was another thinly veiled attempt to get rid of me...again. It will never be that easy! Thanks, Chuck > On May 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > ?Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! > > Cheers > > >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >> started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >> be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >> and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >> remember everybody! >> We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >> survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >> numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >> and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >> and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >> track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >> don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >> We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >> submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >> us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >> - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >> future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >> helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >> annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >> Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >> appreciate everyone's cooperation. >> Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of stuff > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:44:20 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 19:44:20 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> References: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78D8720B-887B-45FA-8C42-9739DFAE975B@gmail.com> In 25 years, there has only been one Driver drummed out. The circumstances were extraordinary and warranted. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 7:35 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?I just thought it was another thinly veiled attempt to get rid of me...again. It will never be that easy! > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... >> >> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. >> >> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. >> >> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> >> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >> >> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >> >> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! >> >> Cheers >> >> >>>> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>> Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >>> started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >>> be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >>> and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >>> remember everybody! >>> We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >>> survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >>> numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >>> and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >>> and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >>> track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >>> don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >>> We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >>> submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >>> us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >>> - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>> This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >>> future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >>> helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >>> annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >>> Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >>> appreciate everyone's cooperation. >>> Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:54:35 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:54:35 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> Message-ID: Joe, Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! What say you Steve Belfer?? :-) *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander wrote: > I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT > was launched so late in the year. December. > > Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? > > I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to > Kas. > > Or is that too much? > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot > wrote: > > ? > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > *Brad Eells* > *Chino CA* > *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* > *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* > *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* > > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: > >> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >> message... >> >> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >> possibly getting dropped from the list. >> >> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >> the form and submit it. >> >> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> >> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >> >> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >> >> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >> your form was submitted, we have it! >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >> > remember everybody! >> > >> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >> > >> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> > >> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >> > >> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >> > >> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >> > stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:55:47 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:55:47 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> References: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chuck, I think Cup winners get a lifetime membership. Even if they forget the secret handshake! :-) *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:35 PM Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > I just thought it was another thinly veiled attempt to get rid of > me...again. It will never be that easy! > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > On May 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > > > ?Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort > to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and > submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all > set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... > > > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the > form and submit it. > > > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your > form was submitted, we have it! > > > > Cheers > > > > > >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > >> Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > >> started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > >> be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > >> and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > >> remember everybody! > >> We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > >> survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > >> numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > >> and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > >> and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > >> track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > >> don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > >> We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > >> submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > >> us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > >> - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > >> This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > >> future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > >> helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > >> annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > >> Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > >> appreciate everyone's cooperation. > >> Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > stuff > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhassall at gmail.com Thu May 6 19:27:40 2021 From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 21:27:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ll be glad to help ? jim W4BEA Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7 > On May 6, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Joe, > > Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! > > What say you Steve Belfer?? > > :-) > > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > >> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander wrote: >> I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. >> >> Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? >> >> I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. >> >> Or is that too much? >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! >>> >>> Brad Eells >>> Chino CA >>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >>>> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >>>> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >>>> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >>>> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >>>> message... >>>> >>>> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >>>> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >>>> possibly getting dropped from the list. >>>> >>>> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >>>> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >>>> the form and submit it. >>>> >>>> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>> >>>> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >>>> >>>> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >>>> >>>> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >>>> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >>>> your form was submitted, we have it! >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >>>> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >>>> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >>>> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >>>> > remember everybody! >>>> > >>>> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >>>> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >>>> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >>>> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >>>> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >>>> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >>>> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >>>> > >>>> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >>>> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >>>> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >>>> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>> > >>>> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >>>> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >>>> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >>>> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >>>> > >>>> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >>>> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >>>> > >>>> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >>>> > stuff >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu May 6 19:31:22 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 21:31:22 -0400 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0EF09686-66CD-4095-8F0B-C8B77ADC04EA@me.com> I?ll take two! On May 6, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. Or is that too much? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: > Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an > effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill > out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You > are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first > message... > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out > the form and submit it. > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said > your form was submitted, we have it! > > Cheers > > > On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > > remember everybody! > > > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > > stuff > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Fri May 7 06:16:09 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 07:16:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > > ?I?ll be glad to help > > ? > jim W4BEA > Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7 > >>> On May 6, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Joe, >> >> Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! >> >> What say you Steve Belfer?? >> >> :-) >> >> >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> >> >>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander wrote: >>> I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. >>> >>> Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? >>> >>> I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. >>> >>> Or is that too much? >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>> ? >>>> Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! >>>> >>>> Brad Eells >>>> Chino CA >>>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >>>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >>>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >>>>> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >>>>> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >>>>> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >>>>> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >>>>> message... >>>>> >>>>> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >>>>> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >>>>> possibly getting dropped from the list. >>>>> >>>>> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >>>>> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >>>>> the form and submit it. >>>>> >>>>> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>>> >>>>> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >>>>> >>>>> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >>>>> >>>>> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >>>>> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >>>>> your form was submitted, we have it! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >>>>> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >>>>> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >>>>> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >>>>> > remember everybody! >>>>> > >>>>> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >>>>> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >>>>> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >>>>> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >>>>> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >>>>> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >>>>> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >>>>> > >>>>> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >>>>> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >>>>> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >>>>> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>>> > >>>>> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >>>>> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >>>>> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >>>>> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >>>>> > >>>>> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >>>>> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >>>>> > >>>>> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >>>>> > stuff >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri May 7 07:14:23 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 08:14:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] PORTLAND PLANNING References: <2A216255-8B4F-41E6-9664-94425868C9FB.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <2A216255-8B4F-41E6-9664-94425868C9FB@cs.com> Last night, Curt Johnston had an amazing ZOOM meeting. Data we could use that we are missing is ATTENDANCE. Please submit your current intention to attend as a Driver or Crew. Please mention any other TR folks that you know of that are not on this list. For Example: CREW Sean Alexander Brendan Alexander Mark Alexander Erik Alexander Joe Alexander Please respond even if you are not sure. We know that there is alway attrition. But we need to know how much beer and wine to get. And other stuff. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Fri May 7 07:30:21 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 13:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Free to a good home In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1195332056.1915744.1620394221596@mail.yahoo.com> Free wheels anyone? - Drew Steidinger here.?I?m changing the 15? painted spoke rims on my MGC to chrome. Does anyone know who might be interested in having the 4 mounted tires and rims? Price is very good, $0. I?ll even deliver them.?I do want to get them out of my garage ASAP.Call me: 910-528-6939Thanks Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri May 7 14:00:39 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 15:00:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed References: Message-ID: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> > ? > Fellow racers and breakers of parts, > > This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. > > My problem > For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. > > My setup > Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. > > I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. > > I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): > What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? > What is your setup and adjustment approach? > Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? > Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. > > Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. Greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From horizonracing at msn.com Fri May 7 14:20:03 2021 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 20:20:03 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> References: , <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> Message-ID: Like with any brake related issues , you need to work on facts . * line pressure front and rear * actual Temperature front and rear ( temp paint is best). Are you locking rear brakes at all ?? My first inclination is , the rears are dragging - Wrong geometry at balance bar ? Master cylinder free play ? Good luck T Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote: ? ? Fellow racers and breakers of parts, This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. My problem For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. My setup Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): 1. What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? 2. What is your setup and adjustment approach? 3. Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? 4. Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. Greg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Fri May 7 15:37:43 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 21:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> References: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> Message-ID: <870447044.877325.1620423463160@mail.yahoo.com> Greg that is strange, rear brakes usually just hang-out back there & do their thing, once all is established, and fine-tuned with the balance bar.Assuming that the sliders are free, springs good, leading/trailing shoes correct, I don't see a problem, it's all pretty basic. With a .70 master on the rear you would actually have less pressure to the rears, less braking/heat.The shoes do swell a little when hot, 2-3 clicks off initially should do it though.Looking at the big picture, what started the problem, ie changes to the system?Also have you tried it w/o the prop valve, or did the problem exist prior?Do you have any gross bias adjustment in the balance bar? Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Fri, May 7, 2021 4:00 pm Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed ? Fellow racers and breakers of parts, ? This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway.? Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now.? ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened.? That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. ? My problem For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes.? Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear.? This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details.? Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes.? For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails.? The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance.? In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. ? My setup Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar.? Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?).? I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure.? I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. ?I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks.? Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel.? I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears.? This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. ? I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. ? I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): - What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? - What is your setup and adjustment approach?? - Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? - Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today.? I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat.? The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days.? Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate?? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source.? I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point.? I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures.? ? Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas.? Greg?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Fri May 7 16:03:16 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 17:03:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> References: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> Message-ID: Greg When we looked at it at the track the knob for the bias was way in the back on the driver shaft tunnel. I'm sure it is a smooth run from there up under the bonnet to the bias bar but maybe the cable arrangement could hold a clue. Might it hang up somehow causing the rears to change to dragging while getting off and on the peddle? Running with it disconnected would tell a story. Bob Kramer On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > > ? > > Fellow racers and breakers of parts, > > > > This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. > Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a > multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR > has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural > terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since > it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well > enough on that for now. > > > > *My problem* > > For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o > completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up > that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start > cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last > weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear > cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another > seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those > details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed > reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this > happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end > up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates > significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d > estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, > like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. > > > > *My setup* > > Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front > TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried > everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning > valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running > with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one > of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely > off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup > is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running > the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off > two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar > until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately > the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial > back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts > slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with > confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. > > > > I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same > results. > > > > I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas > please): > > 1. What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? > 2. What is your setup and adjustment approach? > 3. Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or > is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? > 4. Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I > think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the > sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, > along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side > loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t > think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone > modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston > wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched > the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts > from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m > really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. > > > > Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri May 7 16:10:12 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 17:10:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9181BD07-8AEF-42A7-8E5B-979DA52DE09B@icloud.com> Bob that is a hydraulic bias adjustment essentially all it does is dial back the pressure available to the rears. Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2021, at 5:03 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > > ? > Greg > > When we looked at it at the track the knob for the bias was way in the back on the driver shaft tunnel. I'm sure it is a smooth run from there up under the bonnet to the bias bar but maybe the cable arrangement could hold a clue. Might it hang up somehow causing the rears to change to dragging while getting off and on the peddle? Running with it disconnected would tell a story. > > Bob Kramer > > >> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: >> >>> ? >>> Fellow racers and breakers of parts, >>> >>> >>> >>> This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. >>> >>> >>> >>> My problem >>> >>> For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. >>> >>> >>> >>> My setup >>> >>> Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. >>> >>> >>> >>> I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): >>> >>> What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? >>> What is your setup and adjustment approach? >>> Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? >>> Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. >>> >>> >>> Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. >>> >> >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Sat May 8 12:39:49 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 13:39:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? Message-ID: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are before I take things apart and really figure it out... Setup: TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage and slave cylinder Issue: Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping clutch when pedal is up.? Engagement point moved from near the floor to near the top of pedal travel.? Happened suddenly.? Clutch fluid is at normal level.? Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like I'm not fully releasing the pedal. Guesses?? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin came out and jammed in the throwout)?? Slight chance of hang up in slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course I'll report back when I know the actual cause. Cheers, Tony Drews From bitishrm at comcast.net Sat May 8 13:11:40 2021 From: bitishrm at comcast.net (RICHARD NORTH) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 12:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> Message-ID: <610242983.459855.1620501101243@connect.xfinity.com> Hi there Its a great idea. I would also like to stay on the fot list. Richard North, Pleasant Hill, CA #24 Ex-Works Triumph TR7 V8 Rally car, 1976 Three Triumph TR8 road cars: 1976 TR7 V8, two 1980 TR8 convertibles Triumph Stag, 1973 Cheers Richard > On 05/06/2021 5:54 PM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > > Joe, > > Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! > > What say you Steve Belfer?? > > :-) > > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander < joealexandervintage at gmail.com mailto:joealexandervintage at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. > > > > Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? > > > > I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. > > > > Or is that too much? > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > > > > > Brad Eells > > > Chino CA > > > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > > > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > > > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > > > > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an > > > > effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill > > > > out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You > > > > are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first > > > > message... > > > > > > > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > > > > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > > > > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > > > > > > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > > > > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out > > > > the form and submit it. > > > > > > > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > > > > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > > > > > > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com mailto:yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > > > > > > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > > > > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said > > > > your form was submitted, we have it! > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > > > > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > > > > > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > > > > > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > > > > > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > > > > > remember everybody! > > > > > > > > > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > > > > > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > > > > > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > > > > > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > > > > > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > > > > > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > > > > > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > > > > > > > > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > > > > > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > > > > > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > > > > > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > > > > > > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > > > > > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > > > > > helpful. 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URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Sat May 8 13:46:32 2021 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 13:46:32 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? In-Reply-To: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> References: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <008d01d74442$d8e5fb40$8ab1f1c0$@comcast.net> I'm going with your guess. jg -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 12:40 PM To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are before I take things apart and really figure it out... Setup: TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage and slave cylinder Issue: Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping clutch when pedal is up. Engagement point moved from near the floor to near the top of pedal travel. Happened suddenly. Clutch fluid is at normal level. Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like I'm not fully releasing the pedal. Guesses? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin came out and jammed in the throwout)? Slight chance of hang up in slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course I'll report back when I know the actual cause. Cheers, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net From tony at tonydrews.com Sat May 8 17:43:47 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 18:43:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? Answer! In-Reply-To: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> References: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <19b0a289-8c71-442b-afa0-c798230d30ea@tonydrews.com> That was fun to see the wisdom of the list. Problem was...: pressure plate.? Apparently the diaphragm broke. Not all fingers line up. That was really fun to take apart (not!!!).? I'll send a pic on the next reply. So...? Any "better than the others" choices for a TR-6 stock style pressure plate?? I probably should go ahead and do the disc while I'm at it - and I'm looking for good sources for that too. This is the TR-7 splined disk (1" 18 spline?).? I need something beefy of course. The disc actually looks pretty good, but while I'm in here I might as well see about doing the whole schmeer.? I'm going to rebuild the slave too just because, although the more I replace the more my new parts can catch me out too.? One more local race before the 4 day tow to the Cup in Portland, would much prefer not to break it again there. Clutch fork is pinned to the shaft with an extra through bolt. Clutch fork fingers are stock, would be a good opportunity to try Glen's grade 8 bolt trick.? Glen, can you describe how you do that in a little more detail? Time for shower number 2 for the day.? :) Cheers, Tony Drews On 5/8/2021 1:39 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I > thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are > before I take things apart and really figure it out... > > Setup: > > TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage > and slave cylinder > > Issue: > > Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping > clutch when pedal is up.? Engagement point moved from near the floor > to near the top of pedal travel.? Happened suddenly.? Clutch fluid is > at normal level.? Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like > I'm not fully releasing the pedal. > > Guesses?? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin > came out and jammed in the throwout)?? Slight chance of hang up in > slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course > I'll report back when I know the actual cause. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > From tony at tonydrews.com Sat May 8 17:58:12 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 18:58:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? Answer! In-Reply-To: <19b0a289-8c71-442b-afa0-c798230d30ea@tonydrews.com> References: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> <19b0a289-8c71-442b-afa0-c798230d30ea@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: And... the picture... Cheers, Tony On 5/8/2021 6:43 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > That was fun to see the wisdom of the list. > > Problem was...: pressure plate.? Apparently the diaphragm broke. Not > all fingers line up. > > That was really fun to take apart (not!!!).? I'll send a pic on the > next reply. > > So...? Any "better than the others" choices for a TR-6 stock style > pressure plate?? I probably should go ahead and do the disc while I'm > at it - and I'm looking for good sources for that too. This is the > TR-7 splined disk (1" 18 spline?).? I need something beefy of course. > > The disc actually looks pretty good, but while I'm in here I might as > well see about doing the whole schmeer.? I'm going to rebuild the > slave too just because, although the more I replace the more my new > parts can catch me out too.? One more local race before the 4 day tow > to the Cup in Portland, would much prefer not to break it again there. > > Clutch fork is pinned to the shaft with an extra through bolt. Clutch > fork fingers are stock, would be a good opportunity to try Glen's > grade 8 bolt trick.? Glen, can you describe how you do that in a > little more detail? > > Time for shower number 2 for the day.? :) > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > On 5/8/2021 1:39 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >> I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I >> thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are >> before I take things apart and really figure it out... >> >> Setup: >> >> TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish >> linkage and slave cylinder >> >> Issue: >> >> Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping >> clutch when pedal is up.? Engagement point moved from near the floor >> to near the top of pedal travel.? Happened suddenly.? Clutch fluid is >> at normal level.? Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like >> I'm not fully releasing the pedal. >> >> Guesses?? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin >> came out and jammed in the throwout)?? Slight chance of hang up in >> slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course >> I'll report back when I know the actual cause. >> >> Cheers, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I probably should go ahead and do the disc while I'm at it - and I'm looking for good sources for that too. This is the TR-7 splined disk (1" 18 spline?). I need something beefy of course. > > The disc actually looks pretty good, but while I'm in here I might as well see about doing the whole schmeer. I'm going to rebuild the slave too just because, although the more I replace the more my new parts can catch me out too. One more local race before the 4 day tow to the Cup in Portland, would much prefer not to break it again there. > > Clutch fork is pinned to the shaft with an extra through bolt. Clutch fork fingers are stock, would be a good opportunity to try Glen's grade 8 bolt trick. Glen, can you describe how you do that in a little more detail? > > Time for shower number 2 for the day. :) > > Cheers, Tony Drews > >> On 5/8/2021 1:39 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >> I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are before I take things apart and really figure it out... >> >> Setup: >> >> TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage and slave cylinder >> >> Issue: >> >> Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping clutch when pedal is up. Engagement point moved from near the floor to near the top of pedal travel. Happened suddenly. Clutch fluid is at normal level. Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like I'm not fully releasing the pedal. >> >> Guesses? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin came out and jammed in the throwout)? Slight chance of hang up in slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course I'll report back when I know the actual cause. >> >> Cheers, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com > > From sjanzen at me.com Sun May 9 07:08:48 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 09:08:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 Message-ID: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sun May 9 08:11:57 2021 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 08:11:57 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <0d711870-dc01-f319-ff51-cf38f474c27b@bradakis.com> On 5/9/21 7:08 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year > old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. > ?My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a > Minilight style wheel. ?Am I missing anything else? I think Kiezer Wheels is still a going concern.? They made these modular, very lightweight wheels for me.? The pic shows 13 x 6 front, 13 x 8 rear.? They seemed to be mostly dirt track, drag racing stuff back when I was working with them, sold a few sets of wheels to some folks back when I was trying to make Fat Chance Garage a real business. mjb. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_1538.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 943187 bytes Desc: not available URL: From maddhatt69 at aol.com Sun May 9 08:13:23 2021 From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 14:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 References: <558375075.2264288.1620569603452.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <558375075.2264288.1620569603452@mail.yahoo.com> Scott, Check out VTO wheels. I picked mine up from Hap Waldrop (ACME Speed Shop) a few years ago. Cheers! - Hoovie On Sunday, May 9, 2021 Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. ?My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. ?Am I missing anything else?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/maddhatt69 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsukey at gmail.com Sun May 9 09:17:59 2021 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 11:17:59 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: Scott, I had a good experience ordering a set of the "minilite" style VTO's last year. Ordering a set of 13x6 machined to a custom offset was easy, and they turned them around very quickly. See you in a few days! Jason On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 9:09 AM Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old > Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current > modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a > Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Sun May 9 09:27:18 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Sun, 09 May 2021 11:27:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <1620574038.sx4ifsn274kkoso0@webmail.lumos.net> Jongbloed has some 13 inch wheels.? I had a set for my Formula Ford and really liked them. John ? On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:08:48 -0400, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. ?My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. ? It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. ?Am I missing anything else? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walje at sbcglobal.net Sun May 9 09:48:33 2021 From: walje at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS WALJE) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 10:48:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <02ADFA2D-6E00-4954-BEEA-4C5F7525997F@sbcglobal.net> You might look at VTO wheels. I have a new set and they seem to be well made. I recall watching Group 44 cars with a wheel that looked just like the VTO Dennis Walje GT6 Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walje at sbcglobal.net > > From spitlist at cox.net Sun May 9 11:21:53 2021 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 13:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <0d711870-dc01-f319-ff51-cf38f474c27b@bradakis.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> <0d711870-dc01-f319-ff51-cf38f474c27b@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1398229986.2059047.1620580914058@myemail.cox.net> I was running Kaiser wheels on Tiny Tim for a while. 13x8's on the front and 13x10's on the rear. Yes they are very light but their main downside is they are very soft. So it takes a special person to mount and dismount tires. No machine can do it without bending the rims. > On May 9, 2021 at 10:11 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > > On 5/9/21 7:08 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > > > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year > > old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. > > My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > > > > > > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a > > Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > > > > > > I think Kiezer Wheels is still a going concern. They made these > modular, very lightweight wheels for me. The pic shows 13 x 6 front, 13 > x 8 rear. They seemed to be mostly dirt track, drag racing stuff back > when I was working with them, sold a few sets of wheels to some folks > back when I was trying to make Fat Chance Garage a real business. > > mjb. > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Am I missing anything else? > > > > > > I think Kiezer Wheels is still a going concern. They made these > modular, very lightweight wheels for me. The pic shows 13 x 6 front, 13 > x 8 rear. They seemed to be mostly dirt track, drag racing stuff back > when I was working with them, sold a few sets of wheels to some folks > back when I was trying to make Fat Chance Garage a real business. > > mjb. > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From igofaster at att.net Sun May 9 19:30:32 2021 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 01:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <610242983.459855.1620501101243@connect.xfinity.com> References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> <610242983.459855.1620501101243@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <900832965.513380.1620610232702@mail.yahoo.com> I still have A Triumph..yes please...Bobby Whitehead On Saturday, May 8, 2021, 2:12:18 PM CDT, RICHARD NORTH via Fot wrote: Hi there Its a great idea. I would also like to stay on the fot list. ? Richard North, Pleasant Hill, CA #24 Ex-Works Triumph TR7 V8 Rally car, 1976? Three Triumph TR8 road cars: 1976 TR7 V8, two 1980 TR8 convertibles Triumph Stag, 1973 ? Cheers Richard On 05/06/2021 5:54 PM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: ? ? Joe, ? Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! ? What say you Steve Belfer?? ? :-) ? Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! ? On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander < joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote: I have been thinking about that.? This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. ? Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? ? I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. ? Or is that too much? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: ?319.464.4711 ? On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! ? On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. https://ccfot.com/survey/ If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. Henry Frye? yellow04 at tr4racer.com And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! Cheers On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > remember everybody! > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > stuff _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bitishrm at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awashatko at wi.rr.com Sun May 9 21:14:27 2021 From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 22:14:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Webers Message-ID: <97E35973-FEB7-45FA-A0A8-A2BAC9E3B6A1@wi.rr.com> Looking for a triple set of 45 DCOE?s. Preferably not a project set! Please contact me off line. Thanks! A Sent from my iPhone From levibud at icloud.com Mon May 10 00:02:46 2021 From: levibud at icloud.com (Bud Rolofson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 00:02:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <7E735D2E-ECFF-4930-9084-99F8D60D5C8F@icloud.com> Scott, I have a set of 13 x 6 VTO?s (black spokes with chrome rim) with Hoosier R7 205/60/13 tires I?m selling. Tires have only 3 races on them. You?d have to ship from Denver to where you live. Thanks Bud > On May 9, 2021, at 7:08 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Mon May 10 13:41:46 2021 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 14:41:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset References: Message-ID: Amici, What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2232432 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? > > I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero > offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more > than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. > > On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender > lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half > inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the > tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be > giving up track width. > > > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Mon May 10 15:59:16 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 21:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1758797076.1293293.1620683956733@mail.yahoo.com> I don't have an absolute number, all cars are different to a degree, but generally you want to space them out as far as possible, limited by bodywork and/or rules.Check the front inner rim edge/top ball joint for clearance when loaded & lock to lock.Relieving the rear leaves for inner clearance is SOP with some combinations but it looks like you have a nice Watts-link so the rear won't move much laterally.Just a few thoughts...Glen Efinger ? -----Original Message----- From: dustin nicholson via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 10, 2021 3:41 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset Amici, What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Mon May 10 17:16:06 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 19:16:06 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Hewland Gearbox - Spitfire Message-ID: Amici - I have a Hewland gearbox that came with my ?64 race Spitfire that I don?t need. Includes 17 gear sets, aluminum bell housing. PM me if you are interested. Thanks, Terry From johnstydo at gmail.com Mon May 10 17:28:19 2021 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 19:28:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a word of caution to you, running the stock rear axles and hubs is asking for trouble since they have been known to break with the added stress of racing. Upgrading to one-piece axle would be wise if you are getting serious. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? > > I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero > offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more > than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. > > On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender > lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half > inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the > tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be > giving up track width. > > > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coelacanth.racing at gmail.com Mon May 10 19:26:37 2021 From: coelacanth.racing at gmail.com (Roger Williams) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 20:26:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2EF1525B-AA8F-4770-B725-51EF083B1325@gmail.com> There is this thing called scrub radius. When the factory engineers designed your car they set it in a proper position. If you add spacers or get taller tires or shorter tires or install the wrong rims you can make your car dangerously unstable at worst or at least make parts wear out and or break important bits causing a crash. Making a racecar unstable is not a good idea. If you do not know where the scrub radius is on your front tires...maybe you should. Attached is a simple look at what can get very complex and dangerous. Cheers Roger Williams https://www.carthrottle.com/post/what-is-scrub-radius-and-why-is-it-important/ Sent from my iPad > On May 10, 2021, at 6:30 PM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > ? > As a word of caution to you, running the stock rear axles and hubs is asking for trouble since they have been known to break with the added stress of racing. Upgrading to one-piece axle would be wise if you are getting serious. > >> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> >> What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? >> >> I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. >> >> On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/coelacanth.racing at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hankgiffin at cox.net Mon May 10 21:31:40 2021 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 23:31:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 for sale in Virginia Beach Message-ID: <00ee01d74616$28bcddd0$7a369970$@cox.net> FOTs, here is an ad in the local MG Club newsletter. I plan to look at it next week but really don?t need another project. FYI, Hank Hank Giffin 757 n375n1491 The Oil Spot - May 10, 2021 Drips and Drabs from the TMGC Want to tell us about an MG-related event or have a lead on a car or parts? Send it to Bob Stein for inclusion in the Oil Spot. NOTE: If you do NOT want to receive the Oil Spot, please select UNSUBSCRIBE at the bottom to be removed from my mailing list. For more information, visit our web site at: www.mg.org TMGC News and Activities NOTE - Some TMGC activities have been cancelled or rescheduled. Check the club website ( www.mg.org), the Dipstick for further information. MAY 26 - (Wed) Tentative Dessert Drive Peninsula, depart from the Yorktown Battlefield at 6:30PM 27 - (Thu) Tentative Dessert Drive Southside, depart from the Harris Teeter / Nimmo Parkway at 6:30PM Recent Member Acquisitions Just got a 'new' MG or other Little British Car? Share a picture of your new 'baby' with the Club! Send images and information to Bob Stein at postibob at gmail.com. No recent member acquisitions TMGC Classified Cars for Sale 1960 Triumph TR3 - $15,000 ? Red with black interior and top, good driver car. 2138cc 4-cylinder with 4-speed, older repaint, recent work to fuel and suspension. Located in New Kent, VA. Contact Aren Blaze at 804-504-6734 or email mailto:a.baze at tutanota.com. 1965 Triumph TR4 solid-axle rolling chassis - $3000 - With most systems fully rebuilt; w/commissioning (VIN) tag, MN state Title & copy of the p.o.'s Death Cert (signed by his widow), for titling & reg. Chassis rebuilt: upper, lower trunnions, and full suspension kit; brake fittings and wheel cyl's; rebuilt rear brakes; rebuilt front calipers & new disks; rack bushings; u-joints; all seals and gaskets; rear axle rebound rubbers; rebuilt trans; rebuilt differential. New trans mount ordered (coming from UK on approx. 5/4). New floorpans installed, slightly trimmed/tweaked (less than 1?); easily patched (chassis also fits TR2/3). Wire wheels in excellent shape, need cleaning/touch-up or powdercoat. Many parts to complete, including new TR4 accessory gauges (w/original tach and speedo), new master cylinders, steering column/shaft(s)-(both factory & custom); period aftermarket steering wheel; includes most receipts. Can put purchaser in touch with a party that has very good TR4 engine core with all accessories, including some vintage 1950s Stellings & Hellings air cleaners, for a good price (a few hundred bucks). Photos emailed on request. John Bayer in VA Beach, jrbayer3 at yahoo.com. 1971 MGB-GT ? BRG w/ tan interior - $9800 - Nice Driver ? No Rust, total frame up restoration in 2005, ? race cam w/reliable SU4s on engine rebuild (20,000 miles), stainless steel Trophy Sport exhaust, new brake system front and rear (master, lines, slaves and disc/drums), fuel gauge, new tires on chrome wires, and so much more. Well maintained and dependable. Contact Jim Smith at jamesssmithjr at gmail.com. 1972 MGB roadster project - $2500 obo - Non-rolling chassis w/ engine and trans still in. Have a hard top,(cracked), bows for soft top, seats, limited edition wheels w/ tires. Running gear out of car. Have most of old parts and loads of new stuff. NEW floor pans, trunk pan, new wiring harness, gas tank, fuel pump, WEBER carb w/ intake, rebuilt front shocks, conversion kit for rear, coil springs for front, rear leaf, king pin set, spring mounts, control arms, complete bushing kit, brake kit, master cyl. , clutch slave cyl. Have most of original parts , bumpers, grill, SU carbs, etc. Also have extra used transmission. Over 3000 in parts, asking $2500 OBO. Everything must go! Clear VA title. Geoffrey Curwen (757) 618-0054 gcbandit33 at yahoo.com. 1977 MG Midget - $2500 obo - Mustard yellow, tan interior. Has had new radiator, starter, alternator, Master and slave cylinders, recent new interior and much more. Has not been used regularly but runs good. however suffers from an intermittent clutch problem. Cute car. Call Pete Rohrmayher for more info. 757-410-5564 (Chesapeake). 1978 MGB - $15,000 ? Mechanically fully rebuilt with upgraded performance engine, clutch hydraulics, new heater core, exhaust system, etc. New carpet, many upgrades. Painted wires, luggage rack, air dam, Red with tan interior. 80K miles. Keith Shiminski - kshim001 at odu.edu. Two 1979 MG Midgets - Cars. GAN6UL212542G and GAN6UL212178G. Clear titles. One rolling body without engine (Vermillion). One largely disassembled body (BRG). Extra set of doors and bonnet lid. Two sets of seats and interior panels (recommend recovering/replacing) plus 1 set of seat frames. Machined 1500 engine block and crank with head machined and reassembled. 3 transmissions, one believed to have been rebuilt by prior owner of project. 1975 1500 Midget engine w/ ancillary systems and approximately 29,000 miles (running when removed per eBay seller). 2 extra engine blocks. New windshield. New fuel tank. 4 brand new tires, Weber carb. Monza exhaust. Chrome bumper and new pre-1975 style grille. One dash in great shape. Fiberglass fillers for bumperless rear. Too many other components/parts to list. Tow bar and brand new engine stand included. Over $5000.00 invested. All for sale at $2,500.00 OBO. Larry Luck 757 206 9428 leluck at cox.net Parts/Other/Services MGB: Brand new black tonneau with snaps. $200 - Snaps still in plastic bag for precise placement to fit your car. Call or text 757-449-7463 - Paul. Wanted MGB chrome bumper roadster project car. Get rid of that dusty MG that hasn?t moved in years that's taking up space in your garage or that stalled restoration project. I?ll consider pretty much anything except a rust bucket. Contact Bob at: Bob2274 at hotmail.com or 540.547.3717 Overdrive transmission in good working order for late model MGB. Contact Tommy Keiningham at 757-471-5650. Useable Weber downdraft (just the carb, or carb and intake) that doesn't need sorted out - bolt on, set the mixture, and go. Cash, or I have loads of spares to trade. Also looking for a fuel pressure regulator for another project. Mark Childers 757-650-7743. 1966 MGB or as close as possible firewall to front of car and gutted, need to repair my 66 MGB. Linnie Pearce at James.pearce at cox.net or (757)377-4589 Cell. Vehicle Storage Space - Looking for garage space in Virginia Beach or Norfolk area. For my 52 Singer 4AD, call or text Bill @ 772-240-4869 MGB Bucket Seats to fit 1980 Roadster - Black preferred. Contact Don Ladd at 721-2934 or email donaldwl68 at msn.com. MGA-1600, anti-sway bar. Contact Mick Grochowski at 757-348-9627 or e-mail at mickg2468 at gmail.com. Tidewater MG Club - MG.org 757-375-1491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Phil Gott -----Original Message----- From: Roger Williams via Fot To: John Styduhar Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 10, 2021 9:27 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset There is this thing called scrub radius. When the factory engineers designed your car they set it in a proper position. If you add spacers or get taller tires or shorter tires or install the wrong rims you can make your car dangerously unstable at worst or at least make parts wear out and or break important bits causing a crash. Making a racecar unstable is not a good idea. If you do not know where the scrub radius is on your front tires...maybe you should. Attached is a simple look at what can get very complex and dangerous.CheersRoger Williams https://www.carthrottle.com/post/what-is-scrub-radius-and-why-is-it-important/ Sent from my iPad On May 10, 2021, at 6:30 PM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: ?As a word of caution to you, running the stock rear axles and hubs is asking for trouble since they have been known?to break with the added stress of racing.? ?Upgrading to one-piece axle would be wise if you are getting serious. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/coelacanth.racing at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Tue May 11 17:01:24 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 18:01:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] A Little Levity References: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> Why not? The big red sticker on the back car says ?TOW? and it is a tractor motor..... We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. Paul Ricco -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_3802.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163036 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Sent from my iPhone From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue May 11 17:04:22 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 18:04:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] A Little Levity In-Reply-To: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> References: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> Message-ID: We will be there. Circling the wagons. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 11, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > ?Why not? > > The big red sticker on the back car says ?TOW? and it is a tractor motor..... > > We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. > > Paul Ricco > > > > Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Tue May 11 23:00:09 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 22:00:09 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cool...Candy Box Style! Message-ID: [image: Vitesse, Candy Box, Swanson.jpg] Chuck, Need to get you styled up with the suit and boots...the sideburns are a nice touch too! Cheers, *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Vitesse, Candy Box, Swanson.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 38801 bytes Desc: not available URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Wed May 12 04:07:18 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 06:07:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] A Little Levity In-Reply-To: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> References: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1.ref@att.net> <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> Message-ID: Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. From paulricco at att.net Wed May 12 06:15:50 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 07:15:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Road America References: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398@att.net> We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. > > MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! > >> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed May 12 06:33:17 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 07:33:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398@att.net> References: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398@att.net> Message-ID: <4A18CDEF-A9CC-4BB8-8C91-AE8AA46449AD@gmail.com> Good to see the activity reports. A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 161816 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. > > Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. > > We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. > > Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >> >> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >> >>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Wed May 12 16:43:49 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 08:43:49 +1000 Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers Message-ID: folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with. ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them. I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower in the rings FYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wide any leads appreciated, thanks Terry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Wed May 12 16:44:09 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> take a look at Total Seal Rings On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 05:41:35 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA?or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with.? ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them. I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower?in the rings FYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wide any leads appreciated, thanks Terry_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Wed May 12 16:50:31 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 18:50:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers In-Reply-To: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> References: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1620859831.2d2eb8hs00s00ogo@webmail.lumos.net> I was about to suggest Total Seal as well, but Ralph beat me to it. John ? On Wed, 12 May 2021 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC), ralph hansen via Fot wrote: ? ? take a look at Total Seal Rings ? ? On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 05:41:35 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: ? ? folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA?or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with.? ? ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them. ? I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower?in the rings ? FYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wide ? any leads appreciated, thanks ? Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They are great folks and will provide anything you need in rings at good prices.Steve Yott -------- Original message --------From: ralph hansen via Fot Date: 5/12/21 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FOT , Enquiries Road & Track Subject: Re: [Fot] piston ring makers take a look at Total Seal Rings On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 05:41:35 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA?or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with.?ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them.I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower?in the ringsFYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wideany leads appreciated, thanksTerry _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu May 13 04:41:41 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 06:41:41 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR3a Headlight Rings Message-ID: <67072A62-4FAC-45A4-8A77-70223C354C75@optonline.net> Good morning. How do I determine which trim rings fit? It?s a 58 TR3a. Buckets are original but new mounting rings and hardware. Perplexed Todd -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We need to get a picture of the number of cars to expect, so we?re asking everyone to please fill out this simple ( one minute) survey. Click here to go to the survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/W86VFJ9 WHY YOU SHOULD ATTEND! 1. Triumphs get half price fees, and we have our own Kastner Cup run group all weekend with two feature races. Portland is a fun, fast track enjoyed by SCCA, SVRA and Indy Car. 2. SVRA picks the third week in July for this race because it has the least chance of rain all year. Also, this one of just two races in Portland with a 112 decibel (dB) sound limit, the other being Indy Car. So we will have a dry weekend with no concerns about getting a black flag for being too loud. 3. Competitors will be treated to a special car dash plaque in honor of Kas. We?ll also provide a driver's suit patch, 2021 Kastner Cup tee shirt, and upgraded Peggy Kastner Performance Awards specific to each race class. Moss Motors is also providing a classic Kastner Cup competitor sticker for the outside of the car. 4. Our social events will be expanded as well. We?re planning a Celebration of Life for Kas on Thursday night with a special video tribute titled "Kas; In HIs Own Words." On Friday evening, the British Sports Car Hall of Fame will host a reception. The Kastner Cup awards will be presented on Saturday after the race. We have second feature race on Sunday. So it?s going to be a great weekend, and one that competitors will remember for a long time. 5. The fees are $275 to SVRA upon registration, and just $50 to the Kastner Cup Race (FOT) Committee. Sponsorships this year have allowed us to provide a better experience for competitors and cut the FOT fee by half (it was $100 last year). Special thanks to Moss Motors (Presenting Sponsor), VTR, Huffaker Motorsports and the Triumph Wedge Owners Association (TWOA). To register, go the SVRA site at this link: https://svra.com/events/2021-portland-speedtour/ For more information about the race, visit our webpage at: https://www.kastnercup2021.com/ Lastly, we?re sending out a Kastner Cup Newsletter. Please save my personal email address to your contacts so the Constant Contact email doesn?t get lost in your spam file: Curt Johnston, curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net , 707-249-1667. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri May 14 13:49:28 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 15:49:28 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Hewland Gearbox - Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F9D7BB9-F3DB-4840-A252-49E53425F8FA@gmail.com> Amici - Update - Wife says the Hewland Spitfire Gearbox has to go, as it is taking up space in her crafts area...Plz make offers! Again, this is a complete Hewland gearbox based on stock Spitfire gearbox case, tail shaft, 3-rail selector and aluminum bell housing. After spending over $2k repairing/maintaining at Savannah Race & Engineering, I don?t want to part it out...the gear sets would go quickly beyond just the Triumph Spitfire market...bell housing would also go fast, but I need it all gone - no room! PM me and Make me an offer! Thanks, Terry > On May 10, 2021, at 19:16, Terry Sopher wrote: > > ?Amici - I have a Hewland gearbox that came with my ?64 race Spitfire that I don?t need. Includes 17 gear sets, aluminum bell housing. PM me if you are interested. > > Thanks, Terry From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri May 14 20:21:04 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 19:21:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <4A18CDEF-A9CC-4BB8-8C91-AE8AA46449AD@gmail.com> References: <4A18CDEF-A9CC-4BB8-8C91-AE8AA46449AD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0AE24457-DA40-4C36-82CD-A5939524E818@gmail.com> Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 121040 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Thanks, Chuck > On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Good to see the activity reports. > > A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. > > Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >> >> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >> >> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >> >> Paul >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>> >>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>> >>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri May 14 20:38:40 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 19:38:40 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <0AE24457-DA40-4C36-82CD-A5939524E818@gmail.com> References: <0AE24457-DA40-4C36-82CD-A5939524E818@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> Jerry Barker?s here too! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 122170 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Thanks, Chuck > On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: > > ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Good to see the activity reports. >> >> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. >> >> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. >> >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >>> >>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >>> >>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>>> >>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>>> >>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >> >> From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri May 14 21:16:50 2021 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave Hogye) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 20:16:50 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> References: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <609EB822-A64C-43B6-B04C-67937EFD5E80@comcast.net> Go fast and have fun you guys. Thanks for the photo. Can?t wait for some videos. Dave H. Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Jerry Barker?s here too! > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: >> >> ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Good to see the activity reports. >>> >>> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. >>> >>> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >>>> >>>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >>>> >>>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>>>> >>>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>>>> >>>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > From tony at tonydrews.com Fri May 14 21:33:15 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 22:33:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1962 TR4 Vintage Race Car For Sale In-Reply-To: <00c201d74907$d5ef0890$81cd19b0$@harpercondren.com> References: <00c201d74907$d5ef0890$81cd19b0$@harpercondren.com> Message-ID: <4f42656f-d6dd-d5a9-c572-e663c5ea2a2b@tonydrews.com> No - not mine. This is Don Brick's former car. The current owner bought it, refurbished it to what appears to be a great standard and is now looking to sell it.? He's looking for suggestions on a good place to sell it (besides Bring A Trailer). See attached PDF - it has his contact information in it as well as a good description of the car and the work he's done on it. I'm happy to forward "selling advice" to him as well. Regards, Tony Drews -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: For Sale - 1962 TR4 Race Car.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 2213267 bytes Desc: not available URL: From agb at compsnw.com Fri May 14 22:16:06 2021 From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 21:16:06 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination or renomination... Message-ID: I would like to re-nominate Charly Mitchell as he seems to have dropped off the mailing list. Charly races his 1969 Triumph TR6 (#44) with SOVREN, here in the PNW for the past 20+ years. I get to admire his car, when parked in the paddock, because when we are on the track, Charly puts his pedal to the metal and is gone; I keep looking for him to appear (again), in my rear view mirror... He's a genuine person on the track and even better human being outside of racing where he always steps up and helps any and everyone he can. I'm proud to be a close member with him in 'Drip Pan Alley', but truly honored to be considered his friend. Best, Alec Buchan Bellingham, WA 1962 TR4 #5, SOVREN aka 'the Blue Caboose'. -- From david.c.cutter at gmail.com Fri May 14 22:28:42 2021 From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 07:28:42 +0300 Subject: [Fot] Nomination or renomination... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Second! On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 7:17 AM Alec Buchan via Fot wrote: > I would like to re-nominate Charly Mitchell as he seems to have dropped > off the mailing list. Charly races his 1969 Triumph TR6 (#44) with > SOVREN, here in the PNW for the past 20+ years. I get to admire his car, > when parked in the paddock, because when we are on the track, Charly > puts his pedal to the metal and is gone; I keep looking for him to > appear (again), in my rear view mirror... > > He's a genuine person on the track and even better human being outside > of racing where he always steps up and helps any and everyone he can. > > I'm proud to be a close member with him in 'Drip Pan Alley', but truly > honored to be considered his friend. > > Best, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4 #5, SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose'. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/david.c.cutter at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikegranat9 at gmail.com Fri May 14 23:09:59 2021 From: mikegranat9 at gmail.com (Mike Granat) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 22:09:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination or renomination... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I second, or third this. Charly is a huge asset to the Triumph community. On Fri, May 14, 2021, 9:16 PM Alec Buchan via Fot wrote: > I would like to re-nominate Charly Mitchell as he seems to have dropped > off the mailing list. Charly races his 1969 Triumph TR6 (#44) with > SOVREN, here in the PNW for the past 20+ years. I get to admire his car, > when parked in the paddock, because when we are on the track, Charly > puts his pedal to the metal and is gone; I keep looking for him to > appear (again), in my rear view mirror... > > He's a genuine person on the track and even better human being outside > of racing where he always steps up and helps any and everyone he can. > > I'm proud to be a close member with him in 'Drip Pan Alley', but truly > honored to be considered his friend. > > Best, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4 #5, SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose'. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mikegranat9 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Sat May 15 05:51:28 2021 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 11:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 1962 TR4 Vintage Race Car For Sale In-Reply-To: <4f42656f-d6dd-d5a9-c572-e663c5ea2a2b@tonydrews.com> References: <00c201d74907$d5ef0890$81cd19b0$@harpercondren.com> <4f42656f-d6dd-d5a9-c572-e663c5ea2a2b@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <185497237.878582.1621079488307@mail.yahoo.com> He did a wonderful job of making it look great. However, I wonder where the seller acquired some of his information about the car. The first paragraph under "Technical Spec" I believe is correct. The following paragraphs are incorrect. Jack Drews had no involvement with the car under our ownership. I freshened up the engine once. Replaced the cam followers at that time but did not replace the camshaft. The transmission was opened up for inspection and resealed to fix leaks. Then after overheating issues the head was checked for cracks, trued and valves reseated. The aluminum radiator and electric fan were added then too. The Southwick rear axle conversion was already there when I bought the car. I did not go into the rear axle during our ownership from 2006 to 2017. Ken Suhre On Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:37:34 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: No - not mine. This is Don Brick's former car.? The current owner bought it, refurbished it to what appears to be a great standard and is now looking to sell it.? He's looking for suggestions on a good place to sell it (besides Bring A Trailer). See attached PDF - it has his contact information in it as well as a good description of the car and the work he's done on it. I'm happy to forward "selling advice" to him as well. Regards, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sat May 15 07:30:45 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Road America In-Reply-To: <609EB822-A64C-43B6-B04C-67937EFD5E80@comcast.net> References: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> <609EB822-A64C-43B6-B04C-67937EFD5E80@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2084595213.1111533.1621085445850@mail.yahoo.com> Oh how I miss the days.? The June Sprints was always the biggest national race of the year (other than The Runoffs), and Road America was one of my 2 favorite tracks (along with Road Atlanta).? I first went there in 1975, when I was first getting started, and was not very competitive.? Qualified 17th in DP with a time of 3:14 & finished 7th, mostly due to attrition.? I was a bit overwhelmed by that 4 mile track.? Over the years? The car (and I) improved to the point where I won my race twice, once in 1989 when Vic Skirmants wasn't there, then in 1991 beating Vic by a car length (or less).? I qualified first overall with a time of 2:42, and had a best time during the race of 2:41, finishing first overall. And then there were all of the weekend festivities.? The fans, watching the other races from various points on the track.? Thunder Valley, Canada Corner, the Hurry Downs, and, of course, Turn 5, a great passing spot.? Then off to Schwartz's Supper Club for dinner. I know you guys who go will have a great time, and you probably have great memories of the track as well.? Everyone have a great time, whether racing or supporting.? Good luck and be safe. Jack ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Dave Hogye via Fot To: Chuck Gee Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:18:16 PM EDTSubject: Re: [Fot] Road America Go fast and have fun you guys.? Thanks for the photo.? Can?t wait for some videos.? Dave H. Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Jerry Barker?s here too! > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: >> >> ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend.? British Extravaganza honoring Kas. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Good to see the activity reports.? >>> >>> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. >>> >>> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee.? Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell:? 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >>>> >>>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us.? They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >>>> >>>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>>>> >>>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>>>> >>>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From agb at compsnw.com Sat May 15 09:14:57 2021 From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 08:14:57 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Another nomination, please Message-ID: <2b986937-ceed-1854-f82f-9c6214c595b1@compsnw.com> In preparing for the Kas Cup, we have found some fellow racers, not included in FOT. I would like to nominate Jason Roosa who races a 1957 TR3A with SOVREN. Last year was his Novice year and he has fit in very well, becoming a contributing member of 'Drip Pan Alley'. The only problem I have with his car is that MY WIFE says its the prettiest Triumph out there! Thank you, Alec Buchan Bellingham, WA 1962 TR4A #5 SOVREN aka 'the Blue Caboose' -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The only problem I > have with his car is that MY WIFE says its the prettiest Triumph out > there! > > Thank you, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4 #5 SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose' > -- > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/agb at compsnw.com > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: emailsignature4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 22639 bytes Desc: not available URL: From paulricco at att.net Sat May 15 09:29:17 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 10:29:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Road America In-Reply-To: <2084595213.1111533.1621085445850@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2084595213.1111533.1621085445850@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1FA51C73-F2B3-4FF9-BF84-1B0D362BC3C0@att.net> Jack, Thank you. We appreciate the time you took to write what you did. We are having a very nice weekend. I started coming here over 40 years ago with my father. He has been gone for many years. We have a lot of great memories from here as well. Our car qualified in 2nd place for the DP Group yesterday. Only beaten by a real Yenko Stinger corvair that has a lot of professional support traveling with it. It is running 10 seconds faster than everyone in the group. We are within a second of one of the CP 356?s. I also know Vic and always enjoy spending time with him. He is not here. There are a lot if very well supported 356?s and 911?s from Ecurie here. Mark and I have been friends for decades and I enjoy learning from him. Still 3 more sessions left to catch the 356 and work on improving my driving. All-in-all we are having a great weekend. Thank you again, Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: > > ? > Oh how I miss the days. The June Sprints was always the biggest national race of the year (other than The Runoffs), and Road America was one of my 2 favorite tracks (along with Road Atlanta). I first went there in 1975, when I was first getting started, and was not very competitive. Qualified 17th in DP with a time of 3:14 & finished 7th, mostly due to attrition. I was a bit overwhelmed by that 4 mile track. Over the years The car (and I) improved to the point where I won my race twice, once in 1989 when Vic Skirmants wasn't there, then in 1991 beating Vic by a car length (or less). I qualified first overall with a time of 2:42, and had a best time during the race of 2:41, finishing first overall. > > And then there were all of the weekend festivities. The fans, watching the other races from various points on the track. Thunder Valley, Canada Corner, the Hurry Downs, and, of course, Turn 5, a great passing spot. Then off to Schwartz's Supper Club for dinner. > > I know you guys who go will have a great time, and you probably have great memories of the track as well. Everyone have a great time, whether racing or supporting. Good luck and be safe. > > Jack > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Dave Hogye via Fot > To: Chuck Gee > Cc: Friends of Triumph > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:18:16 PM EDT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America > > Go fast and have fun you guys. Thanks for the photo. Can?t wait for some videos. Dave H. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 14, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > > > ?Jerry Barker?s here too! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: > >> > >> ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > >>> > >>> ?Good to see the activity reports. > >>> > >>> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. > >>> > >>> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Joe Alexander > >>> 4505 Donald Dr > >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > >>> The-vintage-racer.com > >>> Gasketinnovations.com > >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 > >>> > >>> > >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. > >>>> > >>>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. > >>>> > >>>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. > >>>> > >>>> Paul > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. > >>>>> > >>>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! > >>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > >>>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> fot at autox.team.net > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>>>> > >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> fot at autox.team.net > >>>> > >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>>> > >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot at autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > >>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.c.cutter at gmail.com Sat May 15 20:08:38 2021 From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter) Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 05:08:38 +0300 Subject: [Fot] Another nomination, please In-Reply-To: <2b986937-ceed-1854-f82f-9c6214c595b1@compsnw.com> References: <2b986937-ceed-1854-f82f-9c6214c595b1@compsnw.com> Message-ID: Second for Jason as well! On Sat, May 15, 2021, 6:16 PM Alec Buchan via Fot wrote: > In preparing for the Kas Cup, we have found some fellow racers, not > included in FOT. > > I would like to nominate Jason Roosa who races a 1957 TR3A with SOVREN. > Last year was his Novice year and he has fit in very well, becoming a > contributing member of 'Drip Pan Alley'. The only problem I have with his > car is that MY WIFE says its the prettiest Triumph out there! > > Thank you, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4A #5 SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose' > -- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/david.c.cutter at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: emailsignature4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 22639 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From john.r.davies at btinternet.com Sun May 16 05:21:41 2021 From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (John Davies) Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 12:21:41 +0100 Subject: [Fot] recent request for a piston ring maker Message-ID: <1be2701d74a45$a5707b10$f0517130$@btinternet.com> I couldn't help Terry, who is looking for someone to make bespoke piston rings for a Pre-War Triumph. But I knew some men who did, or might do, so I posted on Sideways Technologies, and they were able to point Terry towards at least two possibilities! See: http://sideways-technologies.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/9327-piston-ring- makers/&tab=comments#comment-128337 And that is the power of the Internet! John From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Mon May 17 05:44:00 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 07:44:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists Message-ID: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the top 12. Impressive results. The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well driven. The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy sports racer that ran away from the field. The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get any better than this. From ofracer at gmail.com Mon May 17 05:58:50 2021 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 07:58:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Well done, the Jefferson is a great event. I expect a large turn out for many events this year. Our HRG event in June at Lime Rock filled up a month ago, we had to turn away cars. VSCCA had a vintage racing school two weeks ago with 27 cars entered, about twice the normal turn out. Get out, drive hard, have fun Never Be Beaten By Equipment (N3BN) mike h On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 7:44 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia > > The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car > count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 > cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph > powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the > top 12. Impressive results. > > The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the > Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, > anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well > driven. > > The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic > Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy > sports racer that ran away from the field. > > The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the > front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and > while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and > driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and > hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, > getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 > times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. > But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the > line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, > pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to > start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! > > Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get > any better than this. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 >> cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph >> powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the >> top 12. Impressive results. >> >> The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the >> Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, >> anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well >> driven. >> >> The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic >> Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy >> sports racer that ran away from the field. >> >> The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the >> front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and >> while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and >> driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and >> hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, >> getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 >> times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. >> But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the >> line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, >> pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to >> start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! >> >> Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get >> any better than this. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Very nice! Great job!!! Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:45 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia > > The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car > count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 > cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph > powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the > top 12. Impressive results. > > The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the > Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, > anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well > driven. > > The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic > Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy > sports racer that ran away from the field. > > The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the > front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and > while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and > driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and > hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, > getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 > times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. > But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the > line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, > pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to > start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! > > Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get > any better than this. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jake Jacobsen On Monday, May 17, 2021, 09:48:54 AM CDT, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: We had a nice group in attendance to salute Kas Kastner with the Kastner Commemorative Decal planted on Siebkens Wall of Fame. Right over the FOT Coat of Arms. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Mon May 17 09:11:30 2021 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 10:11:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kas=E2=80=99_Legacy_Sealed_at_Siebkens=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent! Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 On Mon, May 17, 2021, 9:49 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > We had a nice group in attendance to salute Kas Kastner with the Kastner > Commemorative Decal planted on Siebkens Wall of Fame. Right over the FOT > Coat of Arms. > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Mon May 17 10:32:55 2021 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 16:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> Excellent job, Henry, and congrats to you and Scott, Mark, Vic and ALL of the Triumph Racers (the Sukeys Russ, etc-? I lost count)!? I was "watching" the races live on Race Monitor, and I don't know how many times I said to my wife, " I wish I were there".? Everyone did really well.Thanks for the update.-- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 7:44 am Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph powered specials.? Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the top 12. Impressive results. The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well driven. The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy sports racer that ran away from the field. The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get any better than this. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsukey at gmail.com Mon May 17 11:02:52 2021 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 13:02:52 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I had a great weekend, it was the first time we've been out since MidOhio last year! I've sorted a lot of things (racecar AND driver related) since my last time at Summit Point; I set a new personal best lap by 4.5 seconds- my GT6 really felt good. I pulled off early during my Saturday PM race with what I suspect is a rear brake issue, haven't looked into it yet. Looking forward to PittRace! I feel bad for the Group 4/ Small bore guys; not a single full session all weekend without a black flag all....including the enduro! Jason Sukey On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:33 PM kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > Excellent job, Henry, and congrats to you and Scott, Mark, Vic and ALL of > the Triumph Racers (the Sukeys Russ, etc- I lost count)! I was "watching" > the races live on Race Monitor, and I don't know how many times I said to > my wife, " I wish I were there". Everyone did really well. > Thanks for the update.-- Jay De Pol > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yellow04 via Fot > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 7:44 am > Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists > > Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia > > The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car > count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 > cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph > powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the > top 12. Impressive results. > > The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the > Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, > anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well > driven. > > The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic > Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy > sports racer that ran away from the field. > > The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the > front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and > while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and > driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and > hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, > getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 > times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. > But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the > line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, > pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to > start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! > > Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get > any better than this. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Mon May 17 11:06:50 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 13:06:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98126311-98D7-4EB4-A2F6-C93AE462611B@me.com> yep, small bore did not get the breaks, though I ran 17 laps in the enduro, so that?s a good bit of track time. Lots of oil on the track from the small bore crowd with mechanical failures. On May 17, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: I had a great weekend, it was the first time we've been out since MidOhio last year! I've sorted a lot of things (racecar AND driver related) since my last time at Summit Point; I set a new personal best lap by 4.5 seconds- my GT6 really felt good. I pulled off early during my Saturday PM race with what I suspect is a rear brake issue, haven't looked into it yet. Looking forward to PittRace! I feel bad for the Group 4/ Small bore guys; not a single full session all weekend without a black flag all....including the enduro! Jason Sukey On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:33 PM kkjjk--- via Fot > wrote: Excellent job, Henry, and congrats to you and Scott, Mark, Vic and ALL of the Triumph Racers (the Sukeys Russ, etc- I lost count)! I was "watching" the races live on Race Monitor, and I don't know how many times I said to my wife, " I wish I were there". Everyone did really well. Thanks for the update.-- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 via Fot > To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 7:44 am Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the top 12. Impressive results. The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well driven. The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy sports racer that ran away from the field. The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get any better than this. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There were around 10 Triumphs in attendance. I ended up oiling down my Spitfire clutch Saturday morning because of a leaking transmission seal, but fixed it in time to win the DP race on Saturday afternoon! Mordy won the newly minted Kastner trophy for the highest finishing Triumph in the all British race later in the day (second overall, I was fourth). Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday. Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either. Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too. I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early. Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th. Sorry if I missed anyone else. We all had a great time hanging out at the track again. It?s fun to be around racing friends. Chuck Gee From terrysopher at gmail.com Mon May 17 12:50:40 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 14:50:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] VARA British Extravaganza In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0645E9C3-B808-4417-BD84-8B69FC04E8E5@gmail.com> Chuck - Sounds like a Great Weekend! Kudos to all. Terry > On May 17, 2021, at 14:26, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Hello all, > > We all had a great weekend at the 2021 BE this year. There were around 10 Triumphs in attendance. I ended up oiling down my Spitfire clutch Saturday morning because of a leaking transmission seal, but fixed it in time to win the DP race on Saturday afternoon! Mordy won the newly minted Kastner trophy for the highest finishing Triumph in the all British race later in the day (second overall, I was fourth). > > Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday. Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either. Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too. I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early. Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th. Sorry if I missed anyone else. > > We all had a great time hanging out at the track again. It?s fun to be around racing friends. > > Chuck Gee > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon May 17 14:43:33 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 15:43:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Dedication to the Kastner Legacy References: <0D44A81C-BD5C-46D8-8970-38C72219C8CE.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <0D44A81C-BD5C-46D8-8970-38C72219C8CE@cs.com> The Gehweiler?s GT6 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On?Monday, May 17, 2021,?Chuck Gee via Fot??wrote: Hello all, We all had a great weekend at the 2021 BE this year.? There were around 10 Triumphs in attendance.? I ended up oiling down my Spitfire clutch Saturday morning because of a leaking transmission seal, but fixed it in time to win the DP race on Saturday afternoon!? Mordy won the newly minted Kastner trophy for the highest finishing Triumph in the all British race later in the day (second overall, I was fourth).? Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday.? Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either.? Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too.? I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early.? Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th.? Sorry if I missed anyone else. 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Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday.? Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either.? Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too.? I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early.? Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th.? Sorry if I missed anyone else. We all had a great time hanging out at the track again.? It?s fun to be around racing friends. Chuck Gee _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Scott Janzen On May 17, 2021, at 4:43 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: The Gehweiler?s GT6 Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue May 18 07:59:20 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:59:20 -0400 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 Message-ID: on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levibud at icloud.com Tue May 18 09:19:07 2021 From: levibud at icloud.com (Bud Rolofson) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:19:07 -0600 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <703DD9BD-764F-4838-9E66-77EB563A79EB@icloud.com> My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL > On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Tue May 18 10:57:31 2021 From: kkjjk at aol.com (JAY DE POL) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 12:57:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: <703DD9BD-764F-4838-9E66-77EB563A79EB@icloud.com> References: <703DD9BD-764F-4838-9E66-77EB563A79EB@icloud.com> Message-ID: Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: > > ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL > >> On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >> >> on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Tue May 18 11:51:59 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 12:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ve never seen or heard of a warranty plate for a TR6 Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2021, at 11:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot wrote: > > ?Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL >> >>> On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >>> >>> on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Tue May 18 11:52:57 2021 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 11:52:57 -0600 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, I couldn?t resist temptation. I knew I should have apologized in advance to Safron folks. I?ve seen some really nice ones at VTR. Bud Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2021, at 10:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot wrote: > > ?Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL >> >>> On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >>> >>> on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Tue May 18 12:18:25 2021 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:18:25 -0400 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You get the warranty plate from the Telemarketers who call my house every afternoon, just as I crawl under something or get gasket compound on my hands. mike h On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:52 PM Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: > I?ve never seen or heard of a warranty plate for a TR6 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 18, 2021, at 11:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot > wrote: > > ?Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot > wrote: > > ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL > > On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot > wrote: > > on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Tue May 18 13:16:38 2021 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 19:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1628805028.1968067.1621365398084@mail.yahoo.com> No worries, Bud.? I was just bustin ya!? You just gotta warm up to the color, that's all!-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Bud To: JAY DE POL Cc: Bud Rolofson ; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Tue, May 18, 2021 1:52 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] $50k TR6 Sorry, I couldn?t resist temptation. I knew I should have apologized in advance to Safron folks. I?ve seen some really nice ones at VTR.Bud Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2021, at 10:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot wrote: ? Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: ? My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. ?Admittedly only 7400 miles. ?https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Tue May 18 19:53:04 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:53:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] The time has come - for sale Message-ID: <64B619C1-B207-4051-9340-5A60466E1464@gmail.com> Hello all, The time has come for me to sell my original race car. A 1973 Triumph Spitfire that I have raced since 1994. It was an SCCA race car when I bought it, but it has changed quite a bit since then. Here are some of the highlights: - 2007 Kastner Cup winner - 2007 VARA DP class champion - Numerous class and overall wins - Always a top performer, one of the fastest vintage Spitfires in the country - Barker/Gee 1500 cc engine with dual Webers with only one race weekend on it - Custom dog box transmission built in the stock Triumph case with Hewland gears - Close ratio single rail gearbox as a backup - Every differential ratio available (3.62, 3.89, 4.11, 4.55), mostly welded but one Detroit Locker - well sorted suspension - a spares package to last you a lifetime - 20? enclosed trailer Won DP class at the VARA British Extravaganza just this last weekend. Fast and reliable. Come pick it up and take it to the Portland Kastner Cup this year. You will do well! Asking $20,000 including the trailer and all the spares. If you think the price is too high, make me an offer. All I can say is no. 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I think Chuck's asking price including a very nice trailer is more than fair. Act quickly on this one! On Tue, May 18, 2021, 7:55 PM Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > Quick, someone loan me $19,950 dollars! > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alanb at alanberrydesign.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronnie.babbitt at gmail.com Wed May 19 08:32:44 2021 From: ronnie.babbitt at gmail.com (Ronnie Babbitt) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 10:32:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 Message-ID: ?I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no seal in place? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow for movement? The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Video.mov Type: video/quicktime Size: 708672 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Ronnie From chip at theukmotorsports.com Wed May 19 10:24:33 2021 From: chip at theukmotorsports.com (Chip Collingwood) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 12:24:33 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, the front flange holds the pinion bearings tight. Did you mark the nut and shaft before removing them and the flange. If not then it will be difficult to get the proper pinion pre-load and depth. Chip On Wed, May 19, 2021, 12:09 PM Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote: > I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I > removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front > pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When > assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no > seal in place? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow > for movement? > > The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing > spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. > > Ronnie_______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip at theukmotorsports.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Wed May 19 12:01:02 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 14:01:02 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <032C8A6D-F7F5-4E70-9732-F6261D3BCCC2@me.com> I would add that some of these diffs used a crushable spacer, I?m told, rather than a hard spacer and shims. In that case, I?m not sure you can simply re-tighten the nut. Yes, these are tapered bearings with a spacer in between. Here?s some instructions that summarize this better than I can. If you have a nut with a cotter pin, it would seem you are in luck. The pinion seal gets a bit more involved on later diff units; if yours has a castle nut and cotter pin holding the flange to the front of the pinion you can just take it off, remove the flange and swap out the seals re-torque the nut to the work shop manual spec. If instead you find a cap similar to a front wheel bearing cap and inside that a nylock nut you must be very careful to mark the shaft the flange and the nut so on reassembly you can get them back in EXACTLY the same relative positions; THIS INCLUDES TAKING A COUNT OF EXACTLY HOW MANY TURNS THE NUT TAKES. For example: you turn the nut 12 turns and three flats to get it off, then you must turn it twelve turns and three flats putting it on. Your marks should now line up. If they don't quite line up you can tweak the nut a bit to bring them into line. If they have gone beyond DON'T back off. The reason for this fussiness is that the pinion preload is set by a crush sleeve. If you get back to the same place the preload is not changed. If you go farther you change the preload, but in a worn unit it probably won't be off much it is only a fraction of a flat we're talking about. If you back off you release the preload. On May 19, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Chip Collingwood via Fot wrote: Yes, the front flange holds the pinion bearings tight. Did you mark the nut and shaft before removing them and the flange. If not then it will be difficult to get the proper pinion pre-load and depth. Chip On Wed, May 19, 2021, 12:09 PM Ronnie Babbitt via Fot > wrote: I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no seal in place? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow for movement? The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. Ronnie_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip at theukmotorsports.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed May 19 13:24:27 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 19:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2058597564.1355564.1621452267692@mail.yahoo.com> As already mentioned, this is super-critical, you need the pinion preload.Without it the gears will be out of mesh & won't last, too much will kill the bearings .If it's a spacer & shims, just torque it all back down and you're good.If collapsible sleeve, you're screwed, unless you get very lucky.If you have to go into into it I advise considering fitting a solid spacer w/shims, it's a much better setup. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Ronnie Babbitt via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, May 19, 2021 10:32 am Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no seal in place?? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow for movement? The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. Ronnie_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu May 20 06:40:31 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 07:40:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? Message-ID: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? Bob Kramer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 20 06:55:34 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 07:55:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0109C5F0-A767-4160-8AB9-378FB9E4AA14@gmail.com> I think you are correct. Trevor Harris, the chassis engineer, and Kas were very close. Kas never spoke much about the 300ZX, but he would likely know much about it. Trevor was one of the last people that visited Kas. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 20, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: > > ? > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 > > I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. > > Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? > > Bob Kramer > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 20 07:56:15 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 06:56:15 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? In-Reply-To: <0109C5F0-A767-4160-8AB9-378FB9E4AA14@gmail.com> References: <0109C5F0-A767-4160-8AB9-378FB9E4AA14@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8D8D0A04-D765-411B-87FD-AE7FC7CB845F@gmail.com> Kas had overall responsibility for the Nissan Motorsport program during his time there. His firm thumbprint is on all of those cars, not just the GTP program. I think Carolla is collecting Paul Newman only. He still needs the Triumph 2000 sedan? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2021, at 5:55 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?I think you are correct. > > Trevor Harris, the chassis engineer, and Kas were very close. Kas never spoke much about the 300ZX, but he would likely know much about it. > > Trevor was one of the last people that visited Kas. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >>> On May 20, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 >> >> I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. >> >> Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? >> >> Bob Kramer >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhasty at mhc-law.com Thu May 20 10:23:45 2021 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 16:23:45 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shucks, it?s just up the road from me...I?ll check it out if you guys are considering a purchase.,. Sent from my iPhone On May 20, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: ? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? Bob Kramer _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at artwithcars.com Thu May 20 10:31:04 2021 From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 09:31:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] VARA All British race from Saturday, 5/14 Message-ID: Here?s my in-car race from Buttonwillow. The TR3 had some overheating issues all day but I finished 1st in class every session. Great fun with great friends. At the end of lap 1 there?s an exciting moment. I possibly overreacted and moved off the track to avoid contact. 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Dave Connitt Sent from my iPhone From timmmurphh at gmail.com Fri May 21 15:45:10 2021 From: timmmurphh at gmail.com (timmmurphh at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:45:10 -0500 Subject: [Fot] $4.42 per quart Valvoline VR1 20W-50 high zinc racing oil at Amazon Message-ID: <000a01d74e8a$9786db90$c69492b0$@gmail.com> Amazon.com has this oil for $4.42 per quart when purchased in three, 5-quart bottles. It is eligible for free Prime delivery. Your sales tax will be added to the charge. Tim Murphy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Your sales tax will be added to the charge. > > Tim Murphy > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please fill out the survey here: https://ccfot.com/survey/ If email is more your thing, reach out to me here: Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com If no response can be paired with an email address on the roster, we are assuming that email address is no longer being monitored, or the recipient no longer wants our email. Email addresses of non-responders will be removed from Mark's server, and will stop getting FOT mail. If you filled out the survey once, we have it. No email confirmation of a successful submission was sent, after you submitted the survey the web page returned a message indicating the submission was successful. If you don't submit a survey, get dropped, then reach out later to see why you are not getting our email, you are causing more work for the volunteers that make all this happen. That's time I'd rather be spending in the shop working on my race car... Everybody's cooperation is greatly appreciated! Cheers From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sat May 22 15:42:58 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 16:42:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?3_Decals=2E__FOT_Coat_of_Arms=2C_=E2=80=9COK_TO_?= =?utf-8?q?RACE=E2=80=9D=2C_Kas_Commemorative_Decal?= Message-ID: <6E52B70D-33D4-4DAE-91D8-9199F9239291@gmail.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59427 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- FOT: People are asking, so......... We have a limited quantity of each. $2.50 each. $10 Min.. Order. State Quantity of Each. PayPal: n197tr4 at cs.com. Or Check. Have envelopes, stamps, and ready to ship. Thanks, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 27 08:28:12 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 09:28:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Long Door - Joel & Pam Justin's TR2 Message-ID: The FOT list is primarily a list for DRIVERS, but we have our supporting ?CREW? members. John Linney has produced two films for The Kastner Cup, as well as the Kastner/Brock/TR250K Reunion. Now he has won an award for his work with Moss Motors. THE SILVER TELLY award. We will see John again at Portland. Congratulations, John! https://www.tellyawards.com/winners/2021/branded-content/general-promotional/long-door-joel-pam-justins-tr2/247865?fbclid=IwAR0xjnvVBV617djwbN4bhfnzqJCkpA4_r3eZJ6k9Esz23hDetHIb0X_4FgE Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From alfetta95 at optonline.net Fri May 28 15:46:24 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 17:46:24 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spring Cleaning Message-ID: Amici Spring cleaning the garage getting ready for the next project. I have many parts for the TR3 that I didn?t use for various reasons. Does anyone want the following items (make me an offer)or is there really any reasons to keep them. 2 Generators 2 Starters Non-adjustable steering column Pair front calipers Radiator Several copper head gaskets Bumper overriders. Both front and rear Engine fan Todd 1958 TR3a. TS 29341 From alfetta95 at optonline.net Sat May 29 06:16:53 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Redmond) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 08:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Spring Cleaning Message-ID: <1126480674.257044.1622290613692@mymail.optimum.net> Amici Spring cleaning the garage getting ready for the next project. I have many parts for the TR3 that I didn't use for various reasons. Does anyone want the following items, (make me an offer) or is there really any reasons to keep them? 2 generators 2 later style starters Non-adjustable steering column Pair of front calipers, early type Radiator Several copper head gaskets Bumper over riders Engine fan blade TR4 steering rack Thanks Todd 1958 TR3a TS29341 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They will be expensive, probably $75ish each depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some available for testing in the next 60 days or so. > > Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro issues or is it just the Spitfires? > > If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will start a list. > > Rick Parent > > "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences" > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sat May 29 07:27:48 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> Yeah the Big-TR is a candidate, the problem is largely the (lack of) quality of the replacements on the market today... Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Rick Parent via Fot To: FOT Triumph Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:08 am Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated Syncro's with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 transmissions, you know parts that last more than one weekend and probably last a lifetime comparatively speaking. The questions is, is anyone interested? They will be expensive, probably $75ish each depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some available for testing in the next 60 days or so. Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro issues or is it just the Spitfires? If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will start a list. Rick Parent "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences" _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Sat May 29 07:35:08 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 09:35:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Important - News on sponsoring new members Message-ID: We are winding up the cleanup of the inactive email addresses, and the tally is impressive. Look for the final numbers soon. As we worked through the process, we gave a lot of thought on how to keep better track of the membership. We realized we need to do an annual roll call and clarify the process we use to add new members. While the "we don?t have any rules" thing has worked well for 25 years, we are tweaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much how our self-policing group has been doing it, we just never put words to the process because we didn?t need to. And for the record, we are calling this a "guideline", not a rule! As opposed to the nomination process we have been using, we will use a "sponsorship" process going forward. First, we have the designations. All FOT members now fall into one of two categories. Drivers or Crew. Drivers are active and former drivers who turn (or have turned) the steering wheel in sanctioned competition in a Triumph or Triumph powered race car. Anyone not falling into that category will now be referred to as Crew. Only Drivers can sponsor new members. If the new member is an active or former driver, it's a done deal, we have a new FOT member. No seconds needed, we are counting on our existing Driver members to vet the new folks they sponsor. If a Driver wants to sponsor someone who is not another driver, i.e. become part of the FOT Crew, or someone who is actively on the path to becoming a driver in a Triumph they should submit that request to our membership committee through me. We think this clarification makes sense to keep our membership on point and strong. The FOT is proudly keeping Triumphs on track and relevant! Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com keeper of the website and membership roster From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Sat May 29 07:38:19 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 09:38:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] New Member Sponsorship - Mike Kurtz Message-ID: <44cb14e8675aa881171949fbf5539806@tr4racer.com> FOT - This is how we see the new sponsorship system working... I am sponsoring Mike Kurtz to join our ranks and become an FOT member. Mike is a new TR6 racer we met at Summit Point this month, from Mohnton, PA. He is the new owner of a very nicely prepared TR6 race car, he went through the VRG driver's school and did quite well with our friend Rich Rock crewing for him. Unfortunately, clutch issues prevented him from running the event over the weekend, so he has already indoctrinated to our "Never be beaten by equipment" mantra. We have since spent a bunch of time on the phone going over the finer points of climbing the steep learning curve, it's clear to me we have a new driver in our ranks. Remember, no need to "second" anything here, but if you know Mike, or Mike's car, or anything else of interest about my sponsoring Mike, by all means post away! From vfracing at aol.com Sat May 29 07:54:43 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Important - News on sponsoring new members In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2111672675.809519.1622296483411@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for doing this, Henry!Phil -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:36 am Subject: [Fot] Important - News on sponsoring new members We are winding up the cleanup of the inactive email addresses, and the tally is impressive. Look for the final numbers soon. As we worked through the process, we gave a lot of thought on how to keep better track of the membership. We realized we need to do an annual roll call and clarify the process we use to add new members. While the "we don?t have any rules" thing has worked well for 25 years, we are tweaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much how our self-policing group has been doing it, we just never put words to the process because we didn?t need to.? And for the record, we are calling this a "guideline", not a rule! As opposed to the nomination process we have been using, we will use a "sponsorship" process going forward. First, we have the designations. All FOT members now fall into one of two categories. Drivers or Crew. Drivers are active and former drivers who turn (or have turned) the steering wheel in sanctioned competition in a Triumph or Triumph powered race car. Anyone not falling into that category will now be referred to as Crew. Only Drivers can sponsor new members. If the new member is an active or former driver, it's a done deal, we have a new FOT member. No seconds needed, we are counting on our existing Driver members to vet the new folks they sponsor. If a Driver wants to sponsor someone who is not another driver, i.e. become part of the FOT Crew, or someone who is actively on the path to becoming a driver in a Triumph they should submit that request to our membership committee through me. We think this clarification makes sense to keep our membership on point and strong. The FOT is proudly keeping Triumphs on track and relevant! Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com keeper of the website and membership roster _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Sat May 29 09:52:48 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 11:52:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> Most gearboxes I assemble these days have good, used OEM syncros installed, I have been having good results doing that. I did put a set of the Bastuck (German made) syncros in my Stag street car, the gearbox shifts fine but I don't drive that car even remotely aggressively. I didn't realize anybody was having issues with those German syncros. Am I missing something? On 2021-05-29 09:27, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > Yeah the Big-TR is a candidate, the problem is largely the (lack of) > quality of the replacements on the market today... > > Glen Efinger > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Parent via Fot > To: FOT Triumph > Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:08 am > Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's > > So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated > Syncro's with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 > transmissions, you know parts that last more than one weekend and > probably last a lifetime comparatively speaking. The questions is, is > anyone interested? They will be expensive, probably $75ish each > depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some > available for testing in the next 60 days or so. > > Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro > issues or is it just the Spitfires? > > If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will > start a list. From tedtsimx at bright.net Sat May 29 11:06:30 2021 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:06:30 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: The original synchros were good but as the brass "grippers" wore down, they would not slow the gears sufficiently enough.? We fixed this years ago - just face the synchro about .010" or so.? It buries the synchro deeper onto the cone and in essence you have new "grippers" on synchro ring. Ted On 5/29/2021 11:52 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Most gearboxes I assemble these days have good, used OEM syncros > installed, I have been having good results doing that. I did put a set > of the Bastuck (German made) syncros in my Stag street car, the > gearbox shifts fine but I don't drive that car even remotely > aggressively. I didn't realize anybody was having issues with those > German syncros. Am I missing something? > > On 2021-05-29 09:27, fubog1 via Fot wrote: >> Yeah the Big-TR is a candidate, the problem is largely the (lack of) >> quality of the replacements on the market today... >> >> Glen Efinger >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rick Parent via Fot >> To: FOT Triumph >> Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:08 am >> Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's >> >> So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated >> Syncro's with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 >> transmissions, you know parts that last more than one weekend and >> probably last a lifetime comparatively speaking. The questions is, is >> anyone interested? They will be expensive, probably $75ish each >> depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some >> available for testing in the next 60 days or so. >> >> Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro >> issues or is it just the Spitfires? >> >> If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will >> start a list. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx at bright.net > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 103 E. Main St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat May 29 15:17:37 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 07:17:37 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: dont forget, a f good part of the "syncro problem" in all these gearboxes is worn out mating outer sleeves, gear tapers and dog teeth the "big" gearbox in TR's, Salons & Stags all have much the same issue, and you might find an even bigger application/market there Most of the repro syncros ive seen for the "big" box are worse than worn out factory ones. The most common problems ive enountereed are wrong brass used for the backing, wrong cone angle and wrong dog teeth shape, with a few even being badly out of round, so doomed to failure. whilst ive not been doing such repairs commercially for a few years now, at the end of my triumph gearbox building career, we were dismantling dozens of old gearboxes just to raid 1st and 4th syncro rings and move them into other boxes needing 2nd and 3rd. this was better than the new ones on offer at the time from vendors like Moss, Rimmers etc and even some of the UK's specialist transmission parts suppliers (basically, the people making them). ive had a fair bit of recent experience with coated syncro rings in late model Toyota gearboxes in race applications. . The factory coating has gone thru several iterations , some of them not very good at all, so caution on this front also. our race Lotus has syncros supplied by a US firm https://synchrotech-transmissions.com/carbon-synchros keep us all informed please. US$75 is not unexpected or unreasonable for a boutique order, if they actually work!. The Toyota gearbox "carbon" syncros currenty retail for about US$45-$50 ea Terry On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 11:10 PM Rick Parent via Fot wrote: > So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated Syncro's > with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 transmissions, you know > parts that last more than one weekend and probably last a lifetime > comparatively speaking. The questions is, is anyone interested? They will > be expensive, probably $75ish each depending on the size of the order I can > place. I should have some available for testing in the next 60 days or so. > > Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro issues > or is it just the Spitfires? > > If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will start > a list. > > Rick Parent > > "*Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of > consequences*" > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I didn't realize anybody was having issues with those > German syncros. Am I missing something? From 4msonset at gmail.com Mon May 31 19:34:29 2021 From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 18:34:29 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Even Bill Cosby can't handle the Shelby Cobra - YouTube Message-ID: <867FA6F0-E346-4BC7-A556-D8F8C08C1940@gmail.com> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bpn-dCoNNc&feature=youtu.be From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sat May 1 15:15:21 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 21:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Early TR Starters In-Reply-To: <206345383.185794.1619892426412@mail.yahoo.com> References: <206345383.185794.1619892426412.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <206345383.185794.1619892426412@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <786875186.194505.1619903722258@mail.yahoo.com> I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it bounced back.? I've had this problem before.? So excuse the extra emails, but I'm sending it this time with 1 picture.? If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. Jack Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used up to VIN 50,000?? I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing! Attached are some pictures.? As you can see, part of the bendix is still on the shaft.? There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding it on.? Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaft? Many thanks. Jack PS.? If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a big help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jeffreykelley at charter.net Sat May 1 17:20:45 2021 From: jeffreykelley at charter.net (jeffreykelley at charter.net) Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 23:20:45 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Early TR Starters Message-ID: ? Attached is the starter section of the TR Service manual. In the earliest starters they used a left hand threaded nut as the locating nut (pictured in Fig. 19-G) and it was replaced in later models with a locating washer held in place by a Circlip. The two different armatures are interchangeable as a unit. It is hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like you have the later design and the clip has been removed. If this is true then it should slide apart giving you access to the rubber shock bushing which probably needs to be changed. Jeff Kelley On May 1, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: ? I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it bounced back. I've had this problem before. So excuse the extra emails, but I'm sending it this time with 1 picture. If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. Jack Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used up to VIN 50,000? I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing! Attached are some pictures. As you can see, part of the bendix is still on the shaft. There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding it on. Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaft? Many thanks. Jack PS. If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a big help. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net [1]http://www.fot-racing.com [2] Donate: [3]http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] Archive: [5]http://autox.team.net/archive [6] [7]http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot [8] Unsubscribe/Manage: [9]http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net [10] Links: ------ [1] http://www.fot-racing.com [2] http://www.fot-racing.com [3] http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] http://www.team.net/donate.html [5] http://autox.team.net/archive [6] http://autox.team.net/archive [7] http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot [8] http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. > > Jack > > > Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used up to VIN 50,000? I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing! > > Attached are some pictures. As you can see, part of the bendix is still on the shaft. There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding it on. Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaft? > > Many thanks. > > Jack > > PS. If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a big help. > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley at charter.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link - https://ccfot.com/survey/ This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly appreciate everyone's cooperation. Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of stuff From rpierce141 at gmail.com Sun May 2 05:57:59 2021 From: rpierce141 at gmail.com (Rod Pierce) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 07:57:59 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. engine.jpg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Sun May 2 07:01:36 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 13:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <568577012.3506407.1619960496269@mail.yahoo.com> sorry to see - certainly looks like pre-ignition/detonation damage - timing too far advanced/bad or low octane gas/too lean (most likely from the looks of the pistons) Arias or Venolia for pistons and pins Carrillo for the rods? Total Seal Gapless rings if the bores are not too bad you might get away with pistons, bearings rings etc On Sunday, May 2, 2021, 07:01:36 AM CDT, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. ? engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sun May 2 08:35:13 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 14:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1398013048.1463255.1619966113337@mail.yahoo.com> Welcome Rod, looks like you got baptized into the cult of racing TRs...!That engine probably has more wrong with it than the obvious hole in the piston and 0-ring seal damage between #1 & 2.The 1st thing that you might do is to read all of the late, great Kas Ks books, all you could ever want to know about Spitfires. Re spare engine, just a few points-I would go with a conservative mild-spec engine to start with so you can get some seat time; doing a full-race spec will guarantee that you spend more time in the pits than on track.The rear gear ratio will determine RPM range, so if it has a 4.10 it'll be pretty "buzzy", = shorter service life. As mentioned, use good parts, rods, pistons, bearings, etc.Pay very close attention to clearances during assembly.Balance all recip & rotating. Crank thrust is weak area, several mods can be done.I advise accusump & oberg be fitted.Crack-check the crank on a regular basis, TBD by RPM range you run.Driveline-The gearbox is a POS.Use GT-6 gears for good ratio but it's still a POS.Driveshafts are VERY sensitive to imbalance, make sure it's done right. NOTE-Rear axles are more important than ANYTHING else on a racing Spitfire, when one breaks you're likely going over, and we have numerous members of that club right here. I wouldn't consider putting a Spit on track for serious competition w/stock axles, and the availability of replacements is limited. Also once all is done get the car on a good maintenance & inspection program. Just a few points to consider that may help maximize track time, hope it helps, others will jump in with more. Glen Efinger ps- attaching a copy of my checklist, don't know if it will work, if not email me if you want a copy -----Original Message----- From: Rod Pierce via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, May 2, 2021 7:57 am Subject: [Fot] Rebuild Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? 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COMMENTS_________________ | | | 1 | safety pin fire bottle | | | | 2 | check leakdown | 1- __%, 2- __%, 3- __%, 4- __%, 5- __%, 6- __% | | | 3 | torque cylinder head | | | | 4 | valve lash spec- in- ___ ex- ___ H-C | | | | 5 | visual check valve springs, rockers | | | | 6 | valve cover gasket condition | | | | 7 | water pump pulley & hub condition | | | | 8 | alternator mounting & security | | | | 9 | drive belt condition & tension | | | | 10 | ignition distributor & low tension | | | | 11 | dist cap, coil & high tension circuit | | | | 12 | check ignition timing | | | | 13 | fuel lines secure | | | | 14 | air filters clean & secure | | | | 15 | check carb pistons free movement | | | | 16 | R&R carb pots/pistons & clean | | | | 17 | throttle linkage security & WOT | | | | 18 | front hubs for wear/adjustment | | | | 19 | steering linkage loose/bent | | | | 20 | visual a-arms, brackets, & chassis | | | | 21 | steering box/rack wear/looseness | | | | 22 | front discs scoring/wear/runout | | | | 23 | front calipers leaks/sticking | | | | 24 | R&R & dedust front pads | | | | 25 | check shock travel indicators | | | | 26 | nut & bolt check front suspension | | | | 27 | rear hubs wear/excessive play | | | | 27 | rear axle flange nut torque | | | | 29 | R&R rear drums scoring/wear | | | | 30 | rear wheel cylinders & hoses | | | | 31 | rear shoes inspect & adjust | | | | 32 | nut & bolt check rear suspension | | | | 33 | visual check driveline | | | | 34 | tighten driveshaft & halfshaft bolts | | | | 35 | visual check u-joints | | | | 36 | check engine oil level | | | | 37 | check brake fluid level | | | | 38 | check gearbox oil level | | | | 39 | check rear axle oil level | | | | 40 | check steering box/rack oil level | | | | 41 | change engine oil | | | | 42 | Inspect/change oil filter | | | | 43 | change gearbox oil | | | | 44 | change rear axle oil | | | | 45 | inspect/clean overdrive filter | | | | 46 | visual check clutch linkage | | | | 47 | check master cylinders for leakage | | | | 48 | tire condition | L/F- R/F- L/R- R/R- | | | 49 | lug nut torque | | | | 50 | Accusump system secure & charged | | | | 51 | mirrors clean & secure | | | | 52 | coolant level | | | | 53 | pressure check cooling system | | | | 54 | radiator cap condition | | | | 55 | coolant recovery system | | | | 56 | check/clean vent cans | | | | 57 | check instruments & switches | | | | 58 | charge battery & check security | | | | 59 | check fuel level | | | | | | | | 60 | fuel filler cap secure | | | | 61 | check security all bodywork | | | | 62 | check brake light | | | | 63 | tire pressure | | | | 64 | change brake fluid | | | | 65 | Check fuel cell foam | | | | + | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). > > I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). > > There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. > > Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. > > Thanks for you help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? engine.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Tue May 4 11:30:29 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 17:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: <700F16CD-ECAC-49B8-B2EC-C9F9E3097797@icloud.com> References: <700F16CD-ECAC-49B8-B2EC-C9F9E3097797@icloud.com> Message-ID: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot To: Rod Pierce Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know.I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. Bud On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. ? engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Tue May 4 12:28:43 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 13:28:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, GT6). Building a few of those motors in near future. Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > ? > ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Rod Pierce > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild > > The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know. > I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. > > Bud > >> On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). >> >> I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). >> >> There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. >> >> Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. >> >> Thanks for you help. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> engine.jpg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Tue May 4 12:59:11 2021 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 14:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Spit Happens Decals Message-ID: <722867696.1705929.1620154751233@myemail.cox.net> Several months ago I did a special run of ?Spit Happens? decals like the one in the attached photo. I have a few remaining in inventory in various colors that need to move since there is a limited shelf life. (The adhesive tends to stick to the backing material after a time making it more difficult to remove). These decals were offered for $15.00 and for the sake of this promotion, I am offering them for $10.00 while supplies last. That includes free shipping to anywhere inside the USA. Here is a list of what is left. I will reserve decals for anyone who sends me an email with a request. Yellow 3 Blue 3 Silver 1 White 1 Cheers, Joe Curry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Coordinating group buys or anything is never easy. >> >> Regards >> Bud >> >>> On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer > wrote: >>> >>> Good morning. >>> I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it. >>> >>> ~Steve >>> >>> >>>> On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hi Steve, >>>> >>>> What?s the status of the Kas stickers? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Bud >>>> >>>>> On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Bud, >>>>> >>>>> I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. >>>>> >>>>> If you use PayPal, please send $8 to steve at artwithcars.com >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> ~Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>> I would like four stickers please. >>>>>> Thanks for doing the stickers. >>>>>> Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? >>>>>> My address is: >>>>>> Bud Rolofson >>>>>> 220 Carr St. >>>>>> Lakewood Colorado. 80226 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Bud >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Commodore 64 >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear FOT, >>>>>>> As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. If you want one, please send me a private email to steve at artwithcars.com >>>>>>> No need to reply to the entire FOT group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next Kastner Cup to help pay expenses >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6? x 3.75? oval >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~Steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bownes at web9.com Tue May 4 14:35:18 2021 From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 16:35:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> Message-ID: Pretty sure it is applicable to the 1147 as well, seeing as how I lost countless engines to #3 rod bearings melting down and requesting exit via the side of the block. On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:33 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, > GT6). Building a few of those motors in near future. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > ? > ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important > mods to the oiling system. > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Rod Pierce > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild > > The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil > feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil > passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a > grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not > done. Ask me how I know. > I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. > > Bud > > On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first > experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end > well for my engine (see attachment). > > I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting > advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the > spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so > mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods > ,rings etc..). > > There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of > these before I am interested in your input. > > Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and > rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap > of my transmission or rearend. > > Thanks for you help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > engine.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Tue May 4 16:46:30 2021 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 16:46:30 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> Message-ID: <014a01d74137$54b47bc0$fe1d7340$@comcast.net> ?requesting exit via the side of the block? -or_ Rapid un-scheduled disassembly _or_ Non-linear, catastrophic mechanical exasperation From: Fot On Behalf Of robert bownes via Fot Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:35 PM To: Greg Blake Cc: FOT ; fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild Pretty sure it is applicable to the 1147 as well, seeing as how I lost countless engines to #3 rod bearings melting down and requesting exit via the side of the block. On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:33 PM Greg Blake via Fot > wrote: I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, GT6). Building a few of those motors in near future. Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot > wrote: ? ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Rod Pierce > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know. I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. Bud On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot > wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires. In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site. I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend. I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue May 4 17:43:11 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 18:43:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Any Interest in a TR3 Race Car? References: Message-ID: I am in the process of collecting more information. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.png Type: image/png Size: 580997 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From fmccjr at aol.com Tue May 4 21:45:07 2021 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 03:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Kas - Stickers In-Reply-To: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> References: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <42192800.592077.1620186307218@mail.yahoo.com> Mine arrived today,?as well. Very nice.I?ll?figure out where to put on?in my car before the Spring Sprints this weekend-?someplace where it will inspire not just myself,?but no doubt?anyone else?who sees it and knows the skinny. Thanks for doing it, Steve! Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 3:59 PM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: Got my Kas stickers today. Really nice. ?Great job Steve. Bud On May 4, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: You?re welcome! ?I didn?t realize how challenging it can be. I hope you like the stickers? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Cool. Thanks for doing the stickers. Coordinating group buys or anything is never easy. RegardsBud On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: Good morning.?I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it.? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Hi Steve, What?s the status of the Kas stickers? ThanksBud On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: Hi Bud, I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. If you use PayPal, please send $8 to?steve at artwithcars.com Thanks ~Steve On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: Hi Steve, I would like four stickers please. Thanks for doing the stickers. Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? My address is: Bud Rolofson 220 Carr St. Lakewood Colorado. 80226 Thanks Bud Sent from my Commodore 64 On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot wrote: Dear FOT, As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. ?If you want one, please send me a private email to steve at artwithcars.com No need to reply to the entire FOT group. ? $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next Kastner Cup to help pay expenses 6? x 3.75? oval ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Tue May 4 22:20:12 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 21:20:12 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Kas Sticker Message-ID: <4AAE7659-A2D1-4FB4-8B1B-A99918AA05B4@gmail.com> Place of honor. 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The candidates are: Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events. They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. JJD [A group of people posing for a photo next to a race car Description automatically generated with medium confidence] Jim Dolan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 299625 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed May 5 06:46:57 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 07:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FoT New Member Proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Done! I have three offspring on the list. Can anyone make it FOUR? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 5, 2021, at 7:44 AM, James J Dolan wrote: > > ? > Friends of Triumph, > > I would like to propose three members to the Friends of Triumph. > All are avid Triumph vintage racers and have competed in previous Kastner Cup events in Triumph GT6?s. > Full disclosure - I also raised these guys from birth and endured years of their high school antics. > > These men are proven drivers, carry SCCA, SVRA, VMC and FIA racing licenses and have incident free records over their racing careers. > They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost. > > The candidates are: > > Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA > > Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. > > Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events. > > They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. > I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. > > I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. > > JJD > > > > Jim Dolan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed May 5 07:39:42 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 13:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: <575388253.204750.1620149429944@mail.yahoo.com> <9DEBCE1A-FB03-4DF7-ADD1-D19016EA6F99@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1427033735.352090.1620221982502@mail.yahoo.com> All of the Spit engines, it's in the design, the feed port to the center main is directly behind the dist/oil pump shaft bush. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: robert bownes via Fot To: Greg Blake Cc: FOT ; fubog1 Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild Pretty sure it is applicable to the 1147 as well, seeing as how I lost countless engines to #3 rod bearings melting down and requesting exit via the side of the block. On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:33 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: I forget guys, is this applicable to the 6 cylinder motors too (TR6, GT6).? Building a few of those motors in near future. ? Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2021, at 12:32 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ...glad you brought it up, specifically that's one of the most important mods to the oiling system. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot To: Rod Pierce Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rebuild The first and most important thing on a 1300 is to make the middle oil feed passage larger. It serves cylinders 2 and 3 while the other two oil passages (front and rear) serve only 1 cylinder. You will end up with a grenade going off in your race engine eventually if that one thing is not done. Ask me how I know.I wish I?d known that fact beforehand. Bud On May 2, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Rod Pierce via Fot wrote: Hello Everyone, I am a new member and new to racing Spitfires.? In fact, my first experience with racing, competition school in Waterford MI, didn't? end well for my engine (see attachment). I am planning to rebuild an extra small journal 1300 and I am requesting advise from the very knowledgeable people on this site.? I have all the spare engine parts I could ever need and a great machine shop near by so mainly I am interested on advice on where to buy parts( pistons, rods ,rings etc..). There are many sources on the internet but since I have never built one of these before I am interested in your input. Also, while I'm at it, I would like to improve my transmission and rearend.? I am open to anything from minor improvement to a complete swap of my transmission or rearend. Thanks for you help. ? engine.jpg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed May 5 07:40:53 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 13:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Kas - Stickers In-Reply-To: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> References: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1689903499.405108.1620222053531@mail.yahoo.com> Got mine too thanks again Steve! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson via Fot To: Steven Belfer Cc: fot Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 3:58 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas - Stickers Got my Kas stickers today. Really nice. ?Great job Steve. Bud On May 4, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: You?re welcome! ?I didn?t realize how challenging it can be. I hope you like the stickers? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Cool. Thanks for doing the stickers. Coordinating group buys or anything is never easy. RegardsBud On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: Good morning.?I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it.? ~Steve On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: ? Hi Steve, What?s the status of the Kas stickers? ThanksBud On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: Hi Bud, I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. If you use PayPal, please send $8 to?steve at artwithcars.com Thanks ~Steve On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: Hi Steve, I would like four stickers please. Thanks for doing the stickers. Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? My address is: Bud Rolofson 220 Carr St. Lakewood Colorado. 80226 Thanks Bud Sent from my Commodore 64 On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot wrote: Dear FOT, As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. ?If you want one, please send me a private email to steve at artwithcars.com No need to reply to the entire FOT group. ? $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next Kastner Cup to help pay expenses 6? x 3.75? oval ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Sean Alexander via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 5:02 pm Subject: [Fot] TR4 Head ~ Combustion Chamber CC / Material Removed From Head Please share?the combustion?chamber volume and head thickness for different?setups that have been tried on the TR4 head Sean _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adcronin at mi.rr.com Wed May 5 13:40:51 2021 From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 15:40:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Head ~ Combustion Chamber CC / Material Removed From Head In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B7D6DA1-987C-43D5-9687-D8579E793745@mi.rr.com> Sean I will share some of the mastications I have been going thru as I continue on the resto-modding of my 55 TR2 with 3B block, 4A head and manifolds, 89 mm bore, etc stock head was shaved initially by having 0.020 removed to eliminate some prior scars (3.330 - 0.020 = 3.310?). Chamber had some minor work to smooth out sharp edges, and relieve some of the shrouding resulting in a chamber area of 61.75 average cc?s for a static CR using a 0.032 copper gasket of 9.43 +/- Had an add?l 0.020 shaved to eliminate some careless scars from some add?l chamber work resulting in an average chamber cc of 62.38 and still using the 0.032 copper gasket (Mordy D) yielding a CR of 9.35+/- Did some more shrouding work and sent head out for some manifold port matching and roller rocker alignment work as well as an add?l 0.010 head milling (so 0.050 total material removed from the stock head for an new height of 3.280?), with a better smoothness ratio for use with Mordy?s 0.022 copper gasket. Also to have the shop cc the combustion chambers after the work is completed. Aiming for a final CR of around 9.75+/- Motor has 270 duration cam, Moodys 5 dummy main billet crank, Corrello rods, BFE 89 mm piston and liner set, IJ teflon crank scraper and baffles, uprated oil pump with Dodge Ram pickup from IJ, SS valves with oversize intake and hardened exhaust seats. HS roller rockers on hardened shaft and alloy pedestals. Crain electronic ignition, Fidanza alloy flywheel, diaphragm clutch, ATI super damper, alloy front motor plate, alloy rocker cover and sump, alloy radiator and soft start electronic fan with thin belt conversion to uprated water pump and alternator. HS6 carbs on 4A intake and exhaust. Gear reduction starter. Toyota 5 speed, Quaife diff with 4.11 gears and alloy drive shaft, 4 wheel disk brakes, 4 wheel tube shocks, uprated front spindles and alloy hubs, RATCO frame modified to take full TR6 front suspension including front sway bar. Oil cooler with thermostat and spin on filter. Hope to be on the road soon! On May 4, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Sean Alexander via Fot wrote: Please share the combustion chamber volume and head thickness for different setups that have been tried on the TR4 head Sean _ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_3668.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 23712 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed May 5 14:45:46 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 15:45:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kas - Stickers In-Reply-To: <1689903499.405108.1620222053531@mail.yahoo.com> References: <9BDD5219-1BCA-4C2C-9654-127F70223404@comcast.net> <1689903499.405108.1620222053531@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When I got back from the track I found an envelope with Kas stickers from Steve and a little box with a Safety Braker from Jack Wheeler. Thanks again fellows. Bob Kramer On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:23 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > Got mine too thanks again Steve! > > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Rolofson via Fot > To: Steven Belfer > Cc: fot > Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 3:58 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas - Stickers > > Got my Kas stickers today. Really nice. Great job Steve. > > Bud > > On May 4, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > You?re welcome! I didn?t realize how challenging it can be. I hope you > like the stickers > > ~Steve > > > On May 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > ? Cool. > > Thanks for doing the stickers. Coordinating group buys or anything is > never easy. > > Regards > Bud > > On May 4, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > Good morning. > I mailed out everything last Wednesday so keep your eye out for it. > > ~Steve > > > On May 4, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > ? Hi Steve, > > What?s the status of the Kas stickers? > > Thanks > Bud > > On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > Hi Bud, > > I?ll ship your stickers as soon as I receive them from the printer. > > If you use PayPal, please send $8 to steve at artwithcars.com > > Thanks > > ~Steve > > > On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > Hi Steve, > I would like four stickers please. > Thanks for doing the stickers. > Is PayPal to your email the way to pay? > My address is: > Bud Rolofson > 220 Carr St. > Lakewood Colorado. 80226 > > Thanks > Bud > > Sent from my Commodore 64 > > On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot > wrote: > > Dear FOT, > As part of a tribute to our dear friend Kas, I designed these stickers to > be distributed at the upcoming VARA race. If you want one, please send me > a private email to steve at artwithcars.com > No need to reply to the entire FOT group. > > $2 each to cover cost and postage. Any extra money will go to the next > Kastner Cup to help pay expenses > > > 6? x 3.75? oval > > ~Steve > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Wed May 5 16:43:34 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 22:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] FoT New Member Proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <924330408.968461.1620254614933@mail.yahoo.com> I'll second -? On Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 04:37:52 PM CDT, James J Dolan via Fot wrote: Friends of Triumph, ? I would like to propose three members to the Friends of Triumph. All are avid Triumph vintage racers and have competed in previous Kastner Cup events in Triumph GT6?s. Full disclosure - I also raised these guys from birth and endured years of their high school antics. ? These men are proven drivers, carry SCCA, SVRA, VMC and FIA racing licenses and have incident free records over their racing careers. They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost.? ? The candidates are: ? Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA ? Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. ? Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events.?? ? They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. ? I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. ? JJD ? ? Jim Dolan ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost.? ? The candidates are: ? Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA ? Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. ? Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events.?? ? They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. ? I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. ? JJD ? ? Jim Dolan ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2021, at 6:46 PM, fmccjr via Fot wrote: > > ? ?,?,?. > > 3 seconds, in a nanosecond. > > Rick McCurdy > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 5:37 PM, James J Dolan via Fot wrote: > > Friends of Triumph, > > > > I would like to propose three members to the Friends of Triumph. > > All are avid Triumph vintage racers and have competed in previous Kastner Cup events in Triumph GT6?s. > > Full disclosure - I also raised these guys from birth and endured years of their high school antics. > > > > These men are proven drivers, carry SCCA, SVRA, VMC and FIA racing licenses and have incident free records over their racing careers. > > They are skilled and competitive drivers who in my years racing with them have always demonstrated good sportsmanship first and foremost. > > > > The candidates are: > > > > Brian P. Dolan - owns and drives the former Bobby Whitehead GT6 MkII. Brian took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta and has competed in PVGP events for the past 12+ years. Brian has competed in two Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio) He also drives a 1967 Tans Am Mustang in SVRA Group 6. He resides in Pittsburgh PA > > > > Peter J. Dolan ? Pete took his racing school with Panoz at Road Atlanta. Drives the Kastner Brophy GT6 in PVGP, VRG, VSCCA events and has competed in 3 Kastner Cup events (Blackhawk, PVGP, Mid Ohio). Pete also races a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events where he is a consistent podium finisher. He resides in Austin TX. > > > > Charles D. Dolan ? Charlie took his racing school with Barber at Sebring. He drives a ?72 GT6 and has competed in previous Kastner Cup events (PVGP and Mid Ohio). Charlie also drives a ?57 MGA and has piloted the MGA to 1st place finishes in the PVGP in Schenley Park the past 3 years. Charlie also drives a 1965 Shelby GT350 in SVRA and HSR events. > > > > They knew and admired Kas and respected him like an honorary grandfather. And of course, Kas told them what they were doing wrong with a wrench or a race car. > > I can attest to these three gentleman for their character, racing competence and passion for Triumph racing. > > > > I recommend these men for admission to the FoT. > > > > JJD > > > > > > > > Jim Dolan > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. https://ccfot.com/survey/ If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! Cheers On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > remember everybody! > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > stuff From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 6 11:07:07 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 10:07:07 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: <140a1e7f7ee13e3852ed61782c0a8e27@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an > effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill > out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You > are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first > message... > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out > the form and submit it. > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said > your form was submitted, we have it! > > Cheers > > > On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > > remember everybody! > > > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > > stuff > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:17:14 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 19:17:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. Or is that too much? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > >> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >> message... >> >> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >> possibly getting dropped from the list. >> >> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >> the form and submit it. >> >> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> >> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >> >> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >> >> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >> your form was submitted, we have it! >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >> > remember everybody! >> > >> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >> > >> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> > >> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >> > >> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >> > >> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >> > stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:34:59 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:34:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> I just thought it was another thinly veiled attempt to get rid of me...again. It will never be that easy! Thanks, Chuck > On May 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > ?Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! > > Cheers > > >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >> started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >> be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >> and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >> remember everybody! >> We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >> survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >> numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >> and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >> and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >> track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >> don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >> We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >> submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >> us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >> - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >> future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >> helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >> annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >> Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >> appreciate everyone's cooperation. >> Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of stuff > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:44:20 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 19:44:20 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> References: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78D8720B-887B-45FA-8C42-9739DFAE975B@gmail.com> In 25 years, there has only been one Driver drummed out. The circumstances were extraordinary and warranted. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 7:35 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?I just thought it was another thinly veiled attempt to get rid of me...again. It will never be that easy! > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... >> >> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. >> >> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. >> >> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> >> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >> >> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >> >> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! >> >> Cheers >> >> >>>> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>> Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >>> started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >>> be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >>> and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >>> remember everybody! >>> We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >>> survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >>> numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >>> and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >>> and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >>> track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >>> don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >>> We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >>> submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >>> us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >>> - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>> This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >>> future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >>> helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >>> annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >>> Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >>> appreciate everyone's cooperation. >>> Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:54:35 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:54:35 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> Message-ID: Joe, Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! What say you Steve Belfer?? :-) *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander wrote: > I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT > was launched so late in the year. December. > > Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? > > I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to > Kas. > > Or is that too much? > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot > wrote: > > ? > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > *Brad Eells* > *Chino CA* > *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* > *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* > *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* > > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: > >> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >> message... >> >> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >> possibly getting dropped from the list. >> >> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >> the form and submit it. >> >> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> >> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >> >> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >> >> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >> your form was submitted, we have it! >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >> > remember everybody! >> > >> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >> > >> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >> > >> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >> > >> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >> > >> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >> > stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 6 18:55:47 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:55:47 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> References: <9F29BB90-AB6C-489D-B210-2B2981F48325@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chuck, I think Cup winners get a lifetime membership. Even if they forget the secret handshake! :-) *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:35 PM Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > I just thought it was another thinly veiled attempt to get rid of > me...again. It will never be that easy! > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > On May 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > > > ?Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort > to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and > submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all > set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... > > > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the > form and submit it. > > > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your > form was submitted, we have it! > > > > Cheers > > > > > >> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > >> Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > >> started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > >> be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > >> and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > >> remember everybody! > >> We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > >> survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > >> numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > >> and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > >> and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > >> track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > >> don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > >> We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > >> submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > >> us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > >> - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > >> This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > >> future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > >> helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > >> annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > >> Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > >> appreciate everyone's cooperation. > >> Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > stuff > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhassall at gmail.com Thu May 6 19:27:40 2021 From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 21:27:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ll be glad to help ? jim W4BEA Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7 > On May 6, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Joe, > > Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! > > What say you Steve Belfer?? > > :-) > > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > >> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander wrote: >> I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. >> >> Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? >> >> I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. >> >> Or is that too much? >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! >>> >>> Brad Eells >>> Chino CA >>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >>>> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >>>> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >>>> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >>>> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >>>> message... >>>> >>>> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >>>> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >>>> possibly getting dropped from the list. >>>> >>>> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >>>> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >>>> the form and submit it. >>>> >>>> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>> >>>> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >>>> >>>> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >>>> >>>> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >>>> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >>>> your form was submitted, we have it! >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >>>> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >>>> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >>>> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >>>> > remember everybody! >>>> > >>>> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >>>> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >>>> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >>>> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >>>> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >>>> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >>>> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >>>> > >>>> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >>>> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >>>> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >>>> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>> > >>>> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >>>> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >>>> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >>>> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >>>> > >>>> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >>>> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >>>> > >>>> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >>>> > stuff >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu May 6 19:31:22 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 21:31:22 -0400 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0EF09686-66CD-4095-8F0B-C8B77ADC04EA@me.com> I?ll take two! On May 6, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. Or is that too much? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: > Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an > effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill > out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You > are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first > message... > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out > the form and submit it. > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said > your form was submitted, we have it! > > Cheers > > > On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > > remember everybody! > > > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > > stuff > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Fri May 7 06:16:09 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 07:16:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > > ?I?ll be glad to help > > ? > jim W4BEA > Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7 > >>> On May 6, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Joe, >> >> Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! >> >> What say you Steve Belfer?? >> >> :-) >> >> >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> >> >>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander wrote: >>> I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. >>> >>> Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? >>> >>> I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. >>> >>> Or is that too much? >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>> ? >>>> Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! >>>> >>>> Brad Eells >>>> Chino CA >>>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >>>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >>>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to >>>>> fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an >>>>> effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill >>>>> out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You >>>>> are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first >>>>> message... >>>>> >>>>> If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer >>>>> being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and >>>>> possibly getting dropped from the list. >>>>> >>>>> We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I >>>>> ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out >>>>> the form and submit it. >>>>> >>>>> https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>>> >>>>> If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. >>>>> >>>>> Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com >>>>> >>>>> And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the >>>>> survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said >>>>> your form was submitted, we have it! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages >>>>> > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to >>>>> > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, >>>>> > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to >>>>> > remember everybody! >>>>> > >>>>> > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick >>>>> > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real >>>>> > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, >>>>> > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, >>>>> > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on >>>>> > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that >>>>> > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. >>>>> > >>>>> > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and >>>>> > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to >>>>> > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link >>>>> > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ >>>>> > >>>>> > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning >>>>> > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always >>>>> > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an >>>>> > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. >>>>> > >>>>> > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly >>>>> > appreciate everyone's cooperation. >>>>> > >>>>> > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of >>>>> > stuff >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri May 7 07:14:23 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 08:14:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] PORTLAND PLANNING References: <2A216255-8B4F-41E6-9664-94425868C9FB.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <2A216255-8B4F-41E6-9664-94425868C9FB@cs.com> Last night, Curt Johnston had an amazing ZOOM meeting. Data we could use that we are missing is ATTENDANCE. Please submit your current intention to attend as a Driver or Crew. Please mention any other TR folks that you know of that are not on this list. For Example: CREW Sean Alexander Brendan Alexander Mark Alexander Erik Alexander Joe Alexander Please respond even if you are not sure. We know that there is alway attrition. But we need to know how much beer and wine to get. And other stuff. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Fri May 7 07:30:21 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 13:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Free to a good home In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1195332056.1915744.1620394221596@mail.yahoo.com> Free wheels anyone? - Drew Steidinger here.?I?m changing the 15? painted spoke rims on my MGC to chrome. Does anyone know who might be interested in having the 4 mounted tires and rims? Price is very good, $0. I?ll even deliver them.?I do want to get them out of my garage ASAP.Call me: 910-528-6939Thanks Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri May 7 14:00:39 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 15:00:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed References: Message-ID: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> > ? > Fellow racers and breakers of parts, > > This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. > > My problem > For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. > > My setup > Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. > > I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. > > I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): > What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? > What is your setup and adjustment approach? > Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? > Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. > > Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. Greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From horizonracing at msn.com Fri May 7 14:20:03 2021 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 20:20:03 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> References: , <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> Message-ID: Like with any brake related issues , you need to work on facts . * line pressure front and rear * actual Temperature front and rear ( temp paint is best). Are you locking rear brakes at all ?? My first inclination is , the rears are dragging - Wrong geometry at balance bar ? Master cylinder free play ? Good luck T Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote: ? ? Fellow racers and breakers of parts, This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. My problem For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. My setup Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): 1. What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? 2. What is your setup and adjustment approach? 3. Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? 4. Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. Greg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Fri May 7 15:37:43 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 21:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> References: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> Message-ID: <870447044.877325.1620423463160@mail.yahoo.com> Greg that is strange, rear brakes usually just hang-out back there & do their thing, once all is established, and fine-tuned with the balance bar.Assuming that the sliders are free, springs good, leading/trailing shoes correct, I don't see a problem, it's all pretty basic. With a .70 master on the rear you would actually have less pressure to the rears, less braking/heat.The shoes do swell a little when hot, 2-3 clicks off initially should do it though.Looking at the big picture, what started the problem, ie changes to the system?Also have you tried it w/o the prop valve, or did the problem exist prior?Do you have any gross bias adjustment in the balance bar? Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Fri, May 7, 2021 4:00 pm Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed ? Fellow racers and breakers of parts, ? This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway.? Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now.? ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened.? That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. ? My problem For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes.? Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear.? This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details.? Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes.? For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails.? The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance.? In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. ? My setup Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar.? Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?).? I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure.? I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. ?I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks.? Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel.? I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears.? This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. ? I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. ? I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): - What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? - What is your setup and adjustment approach?? - Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? - Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today.? I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat.? The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days.? Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate?? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source.? I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point.? I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures.? ? Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas.? Greg?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Fri May 7 16:03:16 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 17:03:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> References: <1281FF18-CBB2-40BF-BEA4-701C610FE5B9@icloud.com> Message-ID: Greg When we looked at it at the track the knob for the bias was way in the back on the driver shaft tunnel. I'm sure it is a smooth run from there up under the bonnet to the bias bar but maybe the cable arrangement could hold a clue. Might it hang up somehow causing the rears to change to dragging while getting off and on the peddle? Running with it disconnected would tell a story. Bob Kramer On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > > ? > > Fellow racers and breakers of parts, > > > > This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. > Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a > multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR > has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural > terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since > it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well > enough on that for now. > > > > *My problem* > > For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o > completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up > that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start > cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last > weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear > cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another > seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those > details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed > reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this > happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end > up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates > significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d > estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, > like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. > > > > *My setup* > > Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front > TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried > everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning > valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running > with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one > of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely > off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup > is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running > the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off > two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar > until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately > the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial > back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts > slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with > confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. > > > > I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same > results. > > > > I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas > please): > > 1. What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? > 2. What is your setup and adjustment approach? > 3. Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or > is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? > 4. Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I > think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the > sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, > along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side > loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t > think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone > modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston > wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched > the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts > from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m > really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. > > > > Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri May 7 16:10:12 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 17:10:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rear brake help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9181BD07-8AEF-42A7-8E5B-979DA52DE09B@icloud.com> Bob that is a hydraulic bias adjustment essentially all it does is dial back the pressure available to the rears. Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2021, at 5:03 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > > ? > Greg > > When we looked at it at the track the knob for the bias was way in the back on the driver shaft tunnel. I'm sure it is a smooth run from there up under the bonnet to the bias bar but maybe the cable arrangement could hold a clue. Might it hang up somehow causing the rears to change to dragging while getting off and on the peddle? Running with it disconnected would tell a story. > > Bob Kramer > > >> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: >> >>> ? >>> Fellow racers and breakers of parts, >>> >>> >>> >>> This past weekend we had wonderful racing at Eagles Canyon Raceway. Ownership turned over a couple years ago and they have finished a multi-million dollar renovation of the track, it is truly amazing now. ECR has always been high on my list because of its potential with the natural terrain, but the lack of good construction methods had held it back since it opened. That has all been corrected now and it is truly amazing?well enough on that for now. >>> >>> >>> >>> My problem >>> >>> For the past two years I have not been able to finish a race weekend w/o completely destroying my rear brakes. Usually related to heat build up that manifests as a blown wheel cylinder or brake shoe linings that start cracking and chuncking off the shoe causing further rapid wear. This last weekend, I had a total rapid failure of the rear brakes when the right rear cylinder let go under hard braking from 100+ mph, I may have blown another seal in the drivers compartment when that happened, but will spare those details. Luckily, my dual masters allowed me to get the car slowed reasonably with just the front brakes. For any of you that have had this happen before, you understand that with a balance bar setup, you don?t end up with full brakes when one end fails. The balance bar rotates significantly to the side that has zero resistance. In my case I?d estimate that I had about 20% of my front brakes available to slow the car, like I said, interesting experience that I?d rather not repeat again. >>> >>> >>> >>> My setup >>> >>> Twin Wilwood 0.7 master cylinders with a custom balance bar. Stock front TR6 calipers and stock 9? TR drums with 0.75 wheel cylinders (I?ve tried everything from 5/8 up to 7/8?). I also run a hydraulic proportioning valve to be able to fine tune the rear hydraulic pressure. I was running with the aluminum rear drums until I destroyed the linings last year in one of the incidents when the rear shoe linings cracked and broke completely off allowing the shoe to cut groves into the drum linings. My routine setup is to put the car on jack stands to adjust the brakes. I start by running the rear drum shoe adjusters in until I perceive slight drag, then back off two clicks. Then I adjust the rear mechanical bias with the balance bar until I have the front and rear brakes engaging (dragging) at approximately the same point of pedal travel. I then fine tune the adjustment to dial back the rear bias until I can threshold brake at speed and lock the fronts slightly before I lock the rears. This allows me to trail brake with confidence that I?m not going to swap ends because of too much rear brake. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have used stock, portifield, and TSI drum linings all with the same results. >>> >>> >>> >>> I?m looking for a couple things from the group (no disc conversion ideas please): >>> >>> What is wrong with my rear brake setup and adjustment approach? >>> What is your setup and adjustment approach? >>> Do you like the amount of rear brake you get with your approach or is it a compromise to keep the brakes from failing? >>> Lastly, I hate our wheel cylinders, its is a terrible design and I think we have real junk on the market today. I have a theory that the sliding wheel cylinder assemble is part of the root cause of my failures, along with heat. The piston and seal are dealing with some severe side loading once the cylinder starts sliding around to do its job and I don?t think it is up to the task, especially what we get these days. Has anyone modified their backing plates and shoes to use a modern day twin piston wheel cylinder that is bolted to the backing plate? Or has anyone ditched the TR drums all together for another 9? or 10? drum backing plate and guts from another source. I?m open to all drum brake ideas at this point. I?m really tired of not racing because of rear brake failures. >>> >>> >>> Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your ideas. >>> >> >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Sat May 8 12:39:49 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 13:39:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? Message-ID: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are before I take things apart and really figure it out... Setup: TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage and slave cylinder Issue: Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping clutch when pedal is up.? Engagement point moved from near the floor to near the top of pedal travel.? Happened suddenly.? Clutch fluid is at normal level.? Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like I'm not fully releasing the pedal. Guesses?? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin came out and jammed in the throwout)?? Slight chance of hang up in slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course I'll report back when I know the actual cause. Cheers, Tony Drews From bitishrm at comcast.net Sat May 8 13:11:40 2021 From: bitishrm at comcast.net (RICHARD NORTH) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 12:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> Message-ID: <610242983.459855.1620501101243@connect.xfinity.com> Hi there Its a great idea. I would also like to stay on the fot list. Richard North, Pleasant Hill, CA #24 Ex-Works Triumph TR7 V8 Rally car, 1976 Three Triumph TR8 road cars: 1976 TR7 V8, two 1980 TR8 convertibles Triumph Stag, 1973 Cheers Richard > On 05/06/2021 5:54 PM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > > Joe, > > Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! > > What say you Steve Belfer?? > > :-) > > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander < joealexandervintage at gmail.com mailto:joealexandervintage at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > I have been thinking about that. This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. > > > > Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? > > > > I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. > > > > Or is that too much? > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! > > > > > > Brad Eells > > > Chino CA > > > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > > > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > > > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to > > > > fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an > > > > effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill > > > > out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You > > > > are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first > > > > message... > > > > > > > > If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer > > > > being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and > > > > possibly getting dropped from the list. > > > > > > > > We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I > > > > ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out > > > > the form and submit it. > > > > > > > > https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > > > > > If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. > > > > > > > > Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com mailto:yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > > > > > > > And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the > > > > survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said > > > > your form was submitted, we have it! > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > > > > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > > > > > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > > > > > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > > > > > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > > > > > remember everybody! > > > > > > > > > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > > > > > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > > > > > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > > > > > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > > > > > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > > > > > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > > > > > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > > > > > > > > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > > > > > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > > > > > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > > > > > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > > > > > > > > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > > > > > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > > > > > helpful. 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URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Sat May 8 13:46:32 2021 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 13:46:32 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? In-Reply-To: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> References: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <008d01d74442$d8e5fb40$8ab1f1c0$@comcast.net> I'm going with your guess. jg -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 12:40 PM To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are before I take things apart and really figure it out... Setup: TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage and slave cylinder Issue: Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping clutch when pedal is up. Engagement point moved from near the floor to near the top of pedal travel. Happened suddenly. Clutch fluid is at normal level. Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like I'm not fully releasing the pedal. Guesses? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin came out and jammed in the throwout)? Slight chance of hang up in slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course I'll report back when I know the actual cause. Cheers, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net From tony at tonydrews.com Sat May 8 17:43:47 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 18:43:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? Answer! In-Reply-To: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> References: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <19b0a289-8c71-442b-afa0-c798230d30ea@tonydrews.com> That was fun to see the wisdom of the list. Problem was...: pressure plate.? Apparently the diaphragm broke. Not all fingers line up. That was really fun to take apart (not!!!).? I'll send a pic on the next reply. So...? Any "better than the others" choices for a TR-6 stock style pressure plate?? I probably should go ahead and do the disc while I'm at it - and I'm looking for good sources for that too. This is the TR-7 splined disk (1" 18 spline?).? I need something beefy of course. The disc actually looks pretty good, but while I'm in here I might as well see about doing the whole schmeer.? I'm going to rebuild the slave too just because, although the more I replace the more my new parts can catch me out too.? One more local race before the 4 day tow to the Cup in Portland, would much prefer not to break it again there. Clutch fork is pinned to the shaft with an extra through bolt. Clutch fork fingers are stock, would be a good opportunity to try Glen's grade 8 bolt trick.? Glen, can you describe how you do that in a little more detail? Time for shower number 2 for the day.? :) Cheers, Tony Drews On 5/8/2021 1:39 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I > thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are > before I take things apart and really figure it out... > > Setup: > > TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage > and slave cylinder > > Issue: > > Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping > clutch when pedal is up.? Engagement point moved from near the floor > to near the top of pedal travel.? Happened suddenly.? Clutch fluid is > at normal level.? Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like > I'm not fully releasing the pedal. > > Guesses?? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin > came out and jammed in the throwout)?? Slight chance of hang up in > slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course > I'll report back when I know the actual cause. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > From tony at tonydrews.com Sat May 8 17:58:12 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 18:58:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clutch issue - guesses? Answer! In-Reply-To: <19b0a289-8c71-442b-afa0-c798230d30ea@tonydrews.com> References: <7691069a-42d5-78e6-cb1d-617af5ec69de@tonydrews.com> <19b0a289-8c71-442b-afa0-c798230d30ea@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: And... the picture... Cheers, Tony On 5/8/2021 6:43 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > That was fun to see the wisdom of the list. > > Problem was...: pressure plate.? Apparently the diaphragm broke. Not > all fingers line up. > > That was really fun to take apart (not!!!).? I'll send a pic on the > next reply. > > So...? Any "better than the others" choices for a TR-6 stock style > pressure plate?? I probably should go ahead and do the disc while I'm > at it - and I'm looking for good sources for that too. This is the > TR-7 splined disk (1" 18 spline?).? I need something beefy of course. > > The disc actually looks pretty good, but while I'm in here I might as > well see about doing the whole schmeer.? I'm going to rebuild the > slave too just because, although the more I replace the more my new > parts can catch me out too.? One more local race before the 4 day tow > to the Cup in Portland, would much prefer not to break it again there. > > Clutch fork is pinned to the shaft with an extra through bolt. Clutch > fork fingers are stock, would be a good opportunity to try Glen's > grade 8 bolt trick.? Glen, can you describe how you do that in a > little more detail? > > Time for shower number 2 for the day.? :) > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > On 5/8/2021 1:39 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >> I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I >> thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are >> before I take things apart and really figure it out... >> >> Setup: >> >> TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish >> linkage and slave cylinder >> >> Issue: >> >> Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping >> clutch when pedal is up.? Engagement point moved from near the floor >> to near the top of pedal travel.? Happened suddenly.? Clutch fluid is >> at normal level.? Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like >> I'm not fully releasing the pedal. >> >> Guesses?? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin >> came out and jammed in the throwout)?? Slight chance of hang up in >> slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course >> I'll report back when I know the actual cause. >> >> Cheers, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I probably should go ahead and do the disc while I'm at it - and I'm looking for good sources for that too. This is the TR-7 splined disk (1" 18 spline?). I need something beefy of course. > > The disc actually looks pretty good, but while I'm in here I might as well see about doing the whole schmeer. I'm going to rebuild the slave too just because, although the more I replace the more my new parts can catch me out too. One more local race before the 4 day tow to the Cup in Portland, would much prefer not to break it again there. > > Clutch fork is pinned to the shaft with an extra through bolt. Clutch fork fingers are stock, would be a good opportunity to try Glen's grade 8 bolt trick. Glen, can you describe how you do that in a little more detail? > > Time for shower number 2 for the day. :) > > Cheers, Tony Drews > >> On 5/8/2021 1:39 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >> I had an issue last weekend that I'm going to dig into shortly. I thought it would be fun to see what the guesses on the root cause are before I take things apart and really figure it out... >> >> Setup: >> >> TR-4, stock style clutch (diaphragm pressure plate), stock-ish linkage and slave cylinder >> >> Issue: >> >> Sudden change in clutch engagement point on clutch pedal and slipping clutch when pedal is up. Engagement point moved from near the floor to near the top of pedal travel. Happened suddenly. Clutch fluid is at normal level. Clutch will still engage, but not completely - like I'm not fully releasing the pedal. >> >> Guesses? I'm suspecting something with the clutch fork (maybe a pin came out and jammed in the throwout)? Slight chance of hang up in slave cylinder, but those are so simple it seems unlikely. Of course I'll report back when I know the actual cause. >> >> Cheers, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com > > From sjanzen at me.com Sun May 9 07:08:48 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 09:08:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 Message-ID: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sun May 9 08:11:57 2021 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 08:11:57 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <0d711870-dc01-f319-ff51-cf38f474c27b@bradakis.com> On 5/9/21 7:08 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year > old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. > ?My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a > Minilight style wheel. ?Am I missing anything else? I think Kiezer Wheels is still a going concern.? They made these modular, very lightweight wheels for me.? The pic shows 13 x 6 front, 13 x 8 rear.? They seemed to be mostly dirt track, drag racing stuff back when I was working with them, sold a few sets of wheels to some folks back when I was trying to make Fat Chance Garage a real business. mjb. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_1538.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 943187 bytes Desc: not available URL: From maddhatt69 at aol.com Sun May 9 08:13:23 2021 From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 14:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 References: <558375075.2264288.1620569603452.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <558375075.2264288.1620569603452@mail.yahoo.com> Scott, Check out VTO wheels. I picked mine up from Hap Waldrop (ACME Speed Shop) a few years ago. Cheers! - Hoovie On Sunday, May 9, 2021 Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. ?My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. ?Am I missing anything else?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/maddhatt69 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsukey at gmail.com Sun May 9 09:17:59 2021 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 11:17:59 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: Scott, I had a good experience ordering a set of the "minilite" style VTO's last year. Ordering a set of 13x6 machined to a custom offset was easy, and they turned them around very quickly. See you in a few days! Jason On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 9:09 AM Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old > Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current > modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a > Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Sun May 9 09:27:18 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Sun, 09 May 2021 11:27:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <1620574038.sx4ifsn274kkoso0@webmail.lumos.net> Jongbloed has some 13 inch wheels.? I had a set for my Formula Ford and really liked them. John ? On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:08:48 -0400, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. ?My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. ? It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. ?Am I missing anything else? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walje at sbcglobal.net Sun May 9 09:48:33 2021 From: walje at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS WALJE) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 10:48:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <02ADFA2D-6E00-4954-BEEA-4C5F7525997F@sbcglobal.net> You might look at VTO wheels. I have a new set and they seem to be well made. I recall watching Group 44 cars with a wheel that looked just like the VTO Dennis Walje GT6 Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walje at sbcglobal.net > > From spitlist at cox.net Sun May 9 11:21:53 2021 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 13:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <0d711870-dc01-f319-ff51-cf38f474c27b@bradakis.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> <0d711870-dc01-f319-ff51-cf38f474c27b@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1398229986.2059047.1620580914058@myemail.cox.net> I was running Kaiser wheels on Tiny Tim for a while. 13x8's on the front and 13x10's on the rear. Yes they are very light but their main downside is they are very soft. So it takes a special person to mount and dismount tires. No machine can do it without bending the rims. > On May 9, 2021 at 10:11 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > > On 5/9/21 7:08 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > > > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year > > old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. > > My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > > > > > > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a > > Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > > > > > > I think Kiezer Wheels is still a going concern. They made these > modular, very lightweight wheels for me. The pic shows 13 x 6 front, 13 > x 8 rear. They seemed to be mostly dirt track, drag racing stuff back > when I was working with them, sold a few sets of wheels to some folks > back when I was trying to make Fat Chance Garage a real business. > > mjb. > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Am I missing anything else? > > > > > > I think Kiezer Wheels is still a going concern. They made these > modular, very lightweight wheels for me. The pic shows 13 x 6 front, 13 > x 8 rear. They seemed to be mostly dirt track, drag racing stuff back > when I was working with them, sold a few sets of wheels to some folks > back when I was trying to make Fat Chance Garage a real business. > > mjb. > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From igofaster at att.net Sun May 9 19:30:32 2021 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 01:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] SECOND REQUEST - ACTION REQUIRED - Survey response needed from everybody In-Reply-To: <610242983.459855.1620501101243@connect.xfinity.com> References: <8D8B0B76-A116-46E2-ACA3-537361154B41@gmail.com> <610242983.459855.1620501101243@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <900832965.513380.1620610232702@mail.yahoo.com> I still have A Triumph..yes please...Bobby Whitehead On Saturday, May 8, 2021, 2:12:18 PM CDT, RICHARD NORTH via Fot wrote: Hi there Its a great idea. I would also like to stay on the fot list. ? Richard North, Pleasant Hill, CA #24 Ex-Works Triumph TR7 V8 Rally car, 1976? Three Triumph TR8 road cars: 1976 TR7 V8, two 1980 TR8 convertibles Triumph Stag, 1973 ? Cheers Richard On 05/06/2021 5:54 PM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: ? ? Joe, ? Sounds like a great idea. I know a guy! ? What say you Steve Belfer?? ? :-) ? Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! ? On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:17 PM Joe Alexander < joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote: I have been thinking about that.? This might be good for 2022 since FOT was launched so late in the year. December. ? Seems like we have a lot going on. Or does Curt have a plan for Shirts? ? I am thinking another run of FOT Shirts with 25Th on it and dedicated to Kas. ? Or is that too much? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: ?319.464.4711 ? On May 6, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Brad Eells via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Done...we need some really good 25th Anniversary swag! Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! ? On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM yellow04 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Just to be perfectly clear, this is simply a housekeeping exercise to fill in blanks on our roster. We are not reviewing submissions in an effort to disqualify anybody. If you are getting FOT email, just fill out and submit the form so we know who you are and how you got here. You are all set. I know, I could have been more clear about that in my first message... If we get no response, we are assuming the email address is no longer being monitored, and only those addresses will be subject to review and possibly getting dropped from the list. We are trying to wrap this project up within the next 30 days or so, I ask that everybody click the link below as soon as they can, fill out the form and submit it. https://ccfot.com/survey/ If you would rather email me directly, that will work too. Henry Frye? yellow04 at tr4racer.com And thanks to everybody who spent the 3 minutes it takes to fill out the survey and submit it. No need to submit it twice, if the web page said your form was submitted, we have it! Cheers On 2021-05-02 05:28, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Come December we will be marking 25 years since the first messages > started flowing over mjb's server and the Friends of Triumph came to > be. As we all know, one of the byproducts of time is forgetfulness, > and as we review the list of FOT members, the list is just too long to > remember everybody! > > We are going to remedy that by having everybody complete a quick > survey. Just a couple simple questions, we are trying to get real > numbers on how many active racers we have, what type of racing you do, > and who do you race with. We also want a count of our former racers, > and our future racers who are building cars and working to get on > track. Lastly, we have our supporting members, that's you folks that > don't turn a wheel at speed but help us racers in any number of ways. > > We put together the survey, and we need everybody to fill it out and > submit it. If we don't know who you are and how you are connected to > us, your email address will be dropped off the list. Here is the link > - https://ccfot.com/survey/ > > This data is proving to be quite valuable for our committees planning > future events, having hard numbers available for negotiating is always > helpful. Also, because data is only good when it is current, expect an > annual follow up so we can keep our list up to date. > > Joe Alexander and all the other guys behind the scenes greatly > appreciate everyone's cooperation. > > Henry Frye, web lacky and he who gets volunteered to do this kind of > stuff _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bitishrm at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awashatko at wi.rr.com Sun May 9 21:14:27 2021 From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 22:14:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Webers Message-ID: <97E35973-FEB7-45FA-A0A8-A2BAC9E3B6A1@wi.rr.com> Looking for a triple set of 45 DCOE?s. Preferably not a project set! Please contact me off line. Thanks! A Sent from my iPhone From levibud at icloud.com Mon May 10 00:02:46 2021 From: levibud at icloud.com (Bud Rolofson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 00:02:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Racing Wheels - GT6 In-Reply-To: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> References: <7A31CADA-F7CA-4126-9726-746E5D6185C1@me.com> Message-ID: <7E735D2E-ECFF-4930-9084-99F8D60D5C8F@icloud.com> Scott, I have a set of 13 x 6 VTO?s (black spokes with chrome rim) with Hoosier R7 205/60/13 tires I?m selling. Tires have only 3 races on them. You?d have to ship from Denver to where you live. Thanks Bud > On May 9, 2021, at 7:08 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > I?m looking for a second set of racing wheels to replace the 50 year old Cosmics - figured it?s not worth the risk to run those anymore. My current modern set are four spoke Revolutions. > > It looks like the choices for a 13x6 wheel are the Revolutions and a Minilight style wheel. Am I missing anything else? > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Mon May 10 13:41:46 2021 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 14:41:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset References: Message-ID: Amici, What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2232432 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? > > I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero > offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more > than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. > > On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender > lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half > inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the > tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be > giving up track width. > > > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Mon May 10 15:59:16 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 21:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1758797076.1293293.1620683956733@mail.yahoo.com> I don't have an absolute number, all cars are different to a degree, but generally you want to space them out as far as possible, limited by bodywork and/or rules.Check the front inner rim edge/top ball joint for clearance when loaded & lock to lock.Relieving the rear leaves for inner clearance is SOP with some combinations but it looks like you have a nice Watts-link so the rear won't move much laterally.Just a few thoughts...Glen Efinger ? -----Original Message----- From: dustin nicholson via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 10, 2021 3:41 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset Amici, What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Mon May 10 17:16:06 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 19:16:06 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Hewland Gearbox - Spitfire Message-ID: Amici - I have a Hewland gearbox that came with my ?64 race Spitfire that I don?t need. Includes 17 gear sets, aluminum bell housing. PM me if you are interested. Thanks, Terry From johnstydo at gmail.com Mon May 10 17:28:19 2021 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 19:28:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a word of caution to you, running the stock rear axles and hubs is asking for trouble since they have been known to break with the added stress of racing. Upgrading to one-piece axle would be wise if you are getting serious. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? > > I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero > offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more > than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. > > On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender > lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half > inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the > tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be > giving up track width. > > > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coelacanth.racing at gmail.com Mon May 10 19:26:37 2021 From: coelacanth.racing at gmail.com (Roger Williams) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 20:26:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2EF1525B-AA8F-4770-B725-51EF083B1325@gmail.com> There is this thing called scrub radius. When the factory engineers designed your car they set it in a proper position. If you add spacers or get taller tires or shorter tires or install the wrong rims you can make your car dangerously unstable at worst or at least make parts wear out and or break important bits causing a crash. Making a racecar unstable is not a good idea. If you do not know where the scrub radius is on your front tires...maybe you should. Attached is a simple look at what can get very complex and dangerous. Cheers Roger Williams https://www.carthrottle.com/post/what-is-scrub-radius-and-why-is-it-important/ Sent from my iPad > On May 10, 2021, at 6:30 PM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > ? > As a word of caution to you, running the stock rear axles and hubs is asking for trouble since they have been known to break with the added stress of racing. Upgrading to one-piece axle would be wise if you are getting serious. > >> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> >> What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? >> >> I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. >> >> On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/coelacanth.racing at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hankgiffin at cox.net Mon May 10 21:31:40 2021 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 23:31:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 for sale in Virginia Beach Message-ID: <00ee01d74616$28bcddd0$7a369970$@cox.net> FOTs, here is an ad in the local MG Club newsletter. I plan to look at it next week but really don?t need another project. FYI, Hank Hank Giffin 757 n375n1491 The Oil Spot - May 10, 2021 Drips and Drabs from the TMGC Want to tell us about an MG-related event or have a lead on a car or parts? Send it to Bob Stein for inclusion in the Oil Spot. NOTE: If you do NOT want to receive the Oil Spot, please select UNSUBSCRIBE at the bottom to be removed from my mailing list. For more information, visit our web site at: www.mg.org TMGC News and Activities NOTE - Some TMGC activities have been cancelled or rescheduled. Check the club website ( www.mg.org), the Dipstick for further information. MAY 26 - (Wed) Tentative Dessert Drive Peninsula, depart from the Yorktown Battlefield at 6:30PM 27 - (Thu) Tentative Dessert Drive Southside, depart from the Harris Teeter / Nimmo Parkway at 6:30PM Recent Member Acquisitions Just got a 'new' MG or other Little British Car? Share a picture of your new 'baby' with the Club! Send images and information to Bob Stein at postibob at gmail.com. No recent member acquisitions TMGC Classified Cars for Sale 1960 Triumph TR3 - $15,000 ? Red with black interior and top, good driver car. 2138cc 4-cylinder with 4-speed, older repaint, recent work to fuel and suspension. Located in New Kent, VA. Contact Aren Blaze at 804-504-6734 or email mailto:a.baze at tutanota.com. 1965 Triumph TR4 solid-axle rolling chassis - $3000 - With most systems fully rebuilt; w/commissioning (VIN) tag, MN state Title & copy of the p.o.'s Death Cert (signed by his widow), for titling & reg. Chassis rebuilt: upper, lower trunnions, and full suspension kit; brake fittings and wheel cyl's; rebuilt rear brakes; rebuilt front calipers & new disks; rack bushings; u-joints; all seals and gaskets; rear axle rebound rubbers; rebuilt trans; rebuilt differential. New trans mount ordered (coming from UK on approx. 5/4). New floorpans installed, slightly trimmed/tweaked (less than 1?); easily patched (chassis also fits TR2/3). Wire wheels in excellent shape, need cleaning/touch-up or powdercoat. Many parts to complete, including new TR4 accessory gauges (w/original tach and speedo), new master cylinders, steering column/shaft(s)-(both factory & custom); period aftermarket steering wheel; includes most receipts. Can put purchaser in touch with a party that has very good TR4 engine core with all accessories, including some vintage 1950s Stellings & Hellings air cleaners, for a good price (a few hundred bucks). Photos emailed on request. John Bayer in VA Beach, jrbayer3 at yahoo.com. 1971 MGB-GT ? BRG w/ tan interior - $9800 - Nice Driver ? No Rust, total frame up restoration in 2005, ? race cam w/reliable SU4s on engine rebuild (20,000 miles), stainless steel Trophy Sport exhaust, new brake system front and rear (master, lines, slaves and disc/drums), fuel gauge, new tires on chrome wires, and so much more. Well maintained and dependable. Contact Jim Smith at jamesssmithjr at gmail.com. 1972 MGB roadster project - $2500 obo - Non-rolling chassis w/ engine and trans still in. Have a hard top,(cracked), bows for soft top, seats, limited edition wheels w/ tires. Running gear out of car. Have most of old parts and loads of new stuff. NEW floor pans, trunk pan, new wiring harness, gas tank, fuel pump, WEBER carb w/ intake, rebuilt front shocks, conversion kit for rear, coil springs for front, rear leaf, king pin set, spring mounts, control arms, complete bushing kit, brake kit, master cyl. , clutch slave cyl. Have most of original parts , bumpers, grill, SU carbs, etc. Also have extra used transmission. Over 3000 in parts, asking $2500 OBO. Everything must go! Clear VA title. Geoffrey Curwen (757) 618-0054 gcbandit33 at yahoo.com. 1977 MG Midget - $2500 obo - Mustard yellow, tan interior. Has had new radiator, starter, alternator, Master and slave cylinders, recent new interior and much more. Has not been used regularly but runs good. however suffers from an intermittent clutch problem. Cute car. Call Pete Rohrmayher for more info. 757-410-5564 (Chesapeake). 1978 MGB - $15,000 ? Mechanically fully rebuilt with upgraded performance engine, clutch hydraulics, new heater core, exhaust system, etc. New carpet, many upgrades. Painted wires, luggage rack, air dam, Red with tan interior. 80K miles. Keith Shiminski - kshim001 at odu.edu. Two 1979 MG Midgets - Cars. GAN6UL212542G and GAN6UL212178G. Clear titles. One rolling body without engine (Vermillion). One largely disassembled body (BRG). Extra set of doors and bonnet lid. Two sets of seats and interior panels (recommend recovering/replacing) plus 1 set of seat frames. Machined 1500 engine block and crank with head machined and reassembled. 3 transmissions, one believed to have been rebuilt by prior owner of project. 1975 1500 Midget engine w/ ancillary systems and approximately 29,000 miles (running when removed per eBay seller). 2 extra engine blocks. New windshield. New fuel tank. 4 brand new tires, Weber carb. Monza exhaust. Chrome bumper and new pre-1975 style grille. One dash in great shape. Fiberglass fillers for bumperless rear. Too many other components/parts to list. Tow bar and brand new engine stand included. Over $5000.00 invested. All for sale at $2,500.00 OBO. Larry Luck 757 206 9428 leluck at cox.net Parts/Other/Services MGB: Brand new black tonneau with snaps. $200 - Snaps still in plastic bag for precise placement to fit your car. Call or text 757-449-7463 - Paul. Wanted MGB chrome bumper roadster project car. Get rid of that dusty MG that hasn?t moved in years that's taking up space in your garage or that stalled restoration project. I?ll consider pretty much anything except a rust bucket. Contact Bob at: Bob2274 at hotmail.com or 540.547.3717 Overdrive transmission in good working order for late model MGB. Contact Tommy Keiningham at 757-471-5650. Useable Weber downdraft (just the carb, or carb and intake) that doesn't need sorted out - bolt on, set the mixture, and go. Cash, or I have loads of spares to trade. Also looking for a fuel pressure regulator for another project. Mark Childers 757-650-7743. 1966 MGB or as close as possible firewall to front of car and gutted, need to repair my 66 MGB. Linnie Pearce at James.pearce at cox.net or (757)377-4589 Cell. Vehicle Storage Space - Looking for garage space in Virginia Beach or Norfolk area. For my 52 Singer 4AD, call or text Bill @ 772-240-4869 MGB Bucket Seats to fit 1980 Roadster - Black preferred. Contact Don Ladd at 721-2934 or email donaldwl68 at msn.com. MGA-1600, anti-sway bar. Contact Mick Grochowski at 757-348-9627 or e-mail at mickg2468 at gmail.com. Tidewater MG Club - MG.org 757-375-1491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Phil Gott -----Original Message----- From: Roger Williams via Fot To: John Styduhar Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 10, 2021 9:27 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wheel offset There is this thing called scrub radius. When the factory engineers designed your car they set it in a proper position. If you add spacers or get taller tires or shorter tires or install the wrong rims you can make your car dangerously unstable at worst or at least make parts wear out and or break important bits causing a crash. Making a racecar unstable is not a good idea. If you do not know where the scrub radius is on your front tires...maybe you should. Attached is a simple look at what can get very complex and dangerous.CheersRoger Williams https://www.carthrottle.com/post/what-is-scrub-radius-and-why-is-it-important/ Sent from my iPad On May 10, 2021, at 6:30 PM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: ?As a word of caution to you, running the stock rear axles and hubs is asking for trouble since they have been known?to break with the added stress of racing.? ?Upgrading to one-piece axle would be wise if you are getting serious. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:49 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, What wheel width and offset are y?all running on a vintage legal track car? I?m looking at buying I set of vintage wheels that have practically zero offset. Attached are photos of my test fit that show the wheel sits in more than seems right. I like the wheels but I?m not sure they?re what I need. On the front the outer rim is a couple of inches inboard from the fender lip. On the rear the inner rim clears the leafspring by less than a half inch. You can see where the previous owner notched the leaf springs so the tire won?t rub, so I suppose I can make these wheels work but I might be giving up track width. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/coelacanth.racing at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Tue May 11 17:01:24 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 18:01:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] A Little Levity References: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> Why not? The big red sticker on the back car says ?TOW? and it is a tractor motor..... We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. Paul Ricco -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_3802.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163036 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Sent from my iPhone From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue May 11 17:04:22 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 18:04:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] A Little Levity In-Reply-To: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> References: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> Message-ID: We will be there. Circling the wagons. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 11, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > ?Why not? > > The big red sticker on the back car says ?TOW? and it is a tractor motor..... > > We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. > > Paul Ricco > > > > Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Tue May 11 23:00:09 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 22:00:09 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cool...Candy Box Style! Message-ID: [image: Vitesse, Candy Box, Swanson.jpg] Chuck, Need to get you styled up with the suit and boots...the sideburns are a nice touch too! Cheers, *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Vitesse, Candy Box, Swanson.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 38801 bytes Desc: not available URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Wed May 12 04:07:18 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 06:07:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] A Little Levity In-Reply-To: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> References: <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1.ref@att.net> <4E19F1CA-F2B0-40FF-B5C3-27726C6017B1@att.net> Message-ID: Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. From paulricco at att.net Wed May 12 06:15:50 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 07:15:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Road America References: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398@att.net> We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > > ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. > > MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! > >> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed May 12 06:33:17 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 07:33:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398@att.net> References: <64C4FA12-2CA9-41F4-A869-086F21499398@att.net> Message-ID: <4A18CDEF-A9CC-4BB8-8C91-AE8AA46449AD@gmail.com> Good to see the activity reports. A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 161816 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. > > Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. > > We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. > > Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >> >> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >> >>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Wed May 12 16:43:49 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 08:43:49 +1000 Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers Message-ID: folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with. ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them. I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower in the rings FYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wide any leads appreciated, thanks Terry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Wed May 12 16:44:09 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> take a look at Total Seal Rings On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 05:41:35 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA?or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with.? ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them. I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower?in the rings FYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wide any leads appreciated, thanks Terry_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Wed May 12 16:50:31 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 18:50:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] piston ring makers In-Reply-To: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> References: <987075272.1799475.1620859449053@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1620859831.2d2eb8hs00s00ogo@webmail.lumos.net> I was about to suggest Total Seal as well, but Ralph beat me to it. John ? On Wed, 12 May 2021 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC), ralph hansen via Fot wrote: ? ? take a look at Total Seal Rings ? ? On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 05:41:35 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: ? ? folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA?or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with.? ? ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them. ? I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower?in the rings ? FYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wide ? any leads appreciated, thanks ? Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They are great folks and will provide anything you need in rings at good prices.Steve Yott -------- Original message --------From: ralph hansen via Fot Date: 5/12/21 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FOT , Enquiries Road & Track Subject: Re: [Fot] piston ring makers take a look at Total Seal Rings On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 05:41:35 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: folks, looking for suggestions as to where in USA?or UK i can buy quality piston rings. i'm rebuilding a couple of pre-war triumph engines, so its not something your average parts shop can help with.?ive tried race piston people like Weisco, but its too unusual for them.I really need someone used to older engines, as the rings are very wide for the bore diameter. MG XPAG overbored engines are close, but narrower?in the ringsFYI, it 65.5mm bore with rings being 1/8, 1/8 and 3/16 wideany leads appreciated, thanksTerry _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu May 13 04:41:41 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 06:41:41 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR3a Headlight Rings Message-ID: <67072A62-4FAC-45A4-8A77-70223C354C75@optonline.net> Good morning. How do I determine which trim rings fit? It?s a 58 TR3a. Buckets are original but new mounting rings and hardware. Perplexed Todd -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We need to get a picture of the number of cars to expect, so we?re asking everyone to please fill out this simple ( one minute) survey. Click here to go to the survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/W86VFJ9 WHY YOU SHOULD ATTEND! 1. Triumphs get half price fees, and we have our own Kastner Cup run group all weekend with two feature races. Portland is a fun, fast track enjoyed by SCCA, SVRA and Indy Car. 2. SVRA picks the third week in July for this race because it has the least chance of rain all year. Also, this one of just two races in Portland with a 112 decibel (dB) sound limit, the other being Indy Car. So we will have a dry weekend with no concerns about getting a black flag for being too loud. 3. Competitors will be treated to a special car dash plaque in honor of Kas. We?ll also provide a driver's suit patch, 2021 Kastner Cup tee shirt, and upgraded Peggy Kastner Performance Awards specific to each race class. Moss Motors is also providing a classic Kastner Cup competitor sticker for the outside of the car. 4. Our social events will be expanded as well. We?re planning a Celebration of Life for Kas on Thursday night with a special video tribute titled "Kas; In HIs Own Words." On Friday evening, the British Sports Car Hall of Fame will host a reception. The Kastner Cup awards will be presented on Saturday after the race. We have second feature race on Sunday. So it?s going to be a great weekend, and one that competitors will remember for a long time. 5. The fees are $275 to SVRA upon registration, and just $50 to the Kastner Cup Race (FOT) Committee. Sponsorships this year have allowed us to provide a better experience for competitors and cut the FOT fee by half (it was $100 last year). Special thanks to Moss Motors (Presenting Sponsor), VTR, Huffaker Motorsports and the Triumph Wedge Owners Association (TWOA). To register, go the SVRA site at this link: https://svra.com/events/2021-portland-speedtour/ For more information about the race, visit our webpage at: https://www.kastnercup2021.com/ Lastly, we?re sending out a Kastner Cup Newsletter. Please save my personal email address to your contacts so the Constant Contact email doesn?t get lost in your spam file: Curt Johnston, curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net , 707-249-1667. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri May 14 13:49:28 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 15:49:28 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Hewland Gearbox - Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F9D7BB9-F3DB-4840-A252-49E53425F8FA@gmail.com> Amici - Update - Wife says the Hewland Spitfire Gearbox has to go, as it is taking up space in her crafts area...Plz make offers! Again, this is a complete Hewland gearbox based on stock Spitfire gearbox case, tail shaft, 3-rail selector and aluminum bell housing. After spending over $2k repairing/maintaining at Savannah Race & Engineering, I don?t want to part it out...the gear sets would go quickly beyond just the Triumph Spitfire market...bell housing would also go fast, but I need it all gone - no room! PM me and Make me an offer! Thanks, Terry > On May 10, 2021, at 19:16, Terry Sopher wrote: > > ?Amici - I have a Hewland gearbox that came with my ?64 race Spitfire that I don?t need. Includes 17 gear sets, aluminum bell housing. PM me if you are interested. > > Thanks, Terry From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri May 14 20:21:04 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 19:21:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <4A18CDEF-A9CC-4BB8-8C91-AE8AA46449AD@gmail.com> References: <4A18CDEF-A9CC-4BB8-8C91-AE8AA46449AD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0AE24457-DA40-4C36-82CD-A5939524E818@gmail.com> Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 121040 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Thanks, Chuck > On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Good to see the activity reports. > > A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. > > Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >> >> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >> >> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >> >> Paul >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>> >>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>> >>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri May 14 20:38:40 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 19:38:40 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <0AE24457-DA40-4C36-82CD-A5939524E818@gmail.com> References: <0AE24457-DA40-4C36-82CD-A5939524E818@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> Jerry Barker?s here too! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 122170 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Thanks, Chuck > On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: > > ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Good to see the activity reports. >> >> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. >> >> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. >> >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >>> >>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >>> >>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>>> >>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>>> >>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >> >> From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri May 14 21:16:50 2021 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave Hogye) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 20:16:50 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Road America In-Reply-To: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> References: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <609EB822-A64C-43B6-B04C-67937EFD5E80@comcast.net> Go fast and have fun you guys. Thanks for the photo. Can?t wait for some videos. Dave H. Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Jerry Barker?s here too! > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: >> >> ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Good to see the activity reports. >>> >>> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. >>> >>> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >>>> >>>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >>>> >>>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>>>> >>>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>>>> >>>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > From tony at tonydrews.com Fri May 14 21:33:15 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 22:33:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1962 TR4 Vintage Race Car For Sale In-Reply-To: <00c201d74907$d5ef0890$81cd19b0$@harpercondren.com> References: <00c201d74907$d5ef0890$81cd19b0$@harpercondren.com> Message-ID: <4f42656f-d6dd-d5a9-c572-e663c5ea2a2b@tonydrews.com> No - not mine. This is Don Brick's former car. The current owner bought it, refurbished it to what appears to be a great standard and is now looking to sell it.? He's looking for suggestions on a good place to sell it (besides Bring A Trailer). See attached PDF - it has his contact information in it as well as a good description of the car and the work he's done on it. I'm happy to forward "selling advice" to him as well. Regards, Tony Drews -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: For Sale - 1962 TR4 Race Car.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 2213267 bytes Desc: not available URL: From agb at compsnw.com Fri May 14 22:16:06 2021 From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 21:16:06 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination or renomination... Message-ID: I would like to re-nominate Charly Mitchell as he seems to have dropped off the mailing list. Charly races his 1969 Triumph TR6 (#44) with SOVREN, here in the PNW for the past 20+ years. I get to admire his car, when parked in the paddock, because when we are on the track, Charly puts his pedal to the metal and is gone; I keep looking for him to appear (again), in my rear view mirror... He's a genuine person on the track and even better human being outside of racing where he always steps up and helps any and everyone he can. I'm proud to be a close member with him in 'Drip Pan Alley', but truly honored to be considered his friend. Best, Alec Buchan Bellingham, WA 1962 TR4 #5, SOVREN aka 'the Blue Caboose'. -- From david.c.cutter at gmail.com Fri May 14 22:28:42 2021 From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 07:28:42 +0300 Subject: [Fot] Nomination or renomination... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Second! On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 7:17 AM Alec Buchan via Fot wrote: > I would like to re-nominate Charly Mitchell as he seems to have dropped > off the mailing list. Charly races his 1969 Triumph TR6 (#44) with > SOVREN, here in the PNW for the past 20+ years. I get to admire his car, > when parked in the paddock, because when we are on the track, Charly > puts his pedal to the metal and is gone; I keep looking for him to > appear (again), in my rear view mirror... > > He's a genuine person on the track and even better human being outside > of racing where he always steps up and helps any and everyone he can. > > I'm proud to be a close member with him in 'Drip Pan Alley', but truly > honored to be considered his friend. > > Best, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4 #5, SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose'. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/david.c.cutter at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikegranat9 at gmail.com Fri May 14 23:09:59 2021 From: mikegranat9 at gmail.com (Mike Granat) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 22:09:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination or renomination... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I second, or third this. Charly is a huge asset to the Triumph community. On Fri, May 14, 2021, 9:16 PM Alec Buchan via Fot wrote: > I would like to re-nominate Charly Mitchell as he seems to have dropped > off the mailing list. Charly races his 1969 Triumph TR6 (#44) with > SOVREN, here in the PNW for the past 20+ years. I get to admire his car, > when parked in the paddock, because when we are on the track, Charly > puts his pedal to the metal and is gone; I keep looking for him to > appear (again), in my rear view mirror... > > He's a genuine person on the track and even better human being outside > of racing where he always steps up and helps any and everyone he can. > > I'm proud to be a close member with him in 'Drip Pan Alley', but truly > honored to be considered his friend. > > Best, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4 #5, SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose'. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mikegranat9 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Sat May 15 05:51:28 2021 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 11:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 1962 TR4 Vintage Race Car For Sale In-Reply-To: <4f42656f-d6dd-d5a9-c572-e663c5ea2a2b@tonydrews.com> References: <00c201d74907$d5ef0890$81cd19b0$@harpercondren.com> <4f42656f-d6dd-d5a9-c572-e663c5ea2a2b@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <185497237.878582.1621079488307@mail.yahoo.com> He did a wonderful job of making it look great. However, I wonder where the seller acquired some of his information about the car. The first paragraph under "Technical Spec" I believe is correct. The following paragraphs are incorrect. Jack Drews had no involvement with the car under our ownership. I freshened up the engine once. Replaced the cam followers at that time but did not replace the camshaft. The transmission was opened up for inspection and resealed to fix leaks. Then after overheating issues the head was checked for cracks, trued and valves reseated. The aluminum radiator and electric fan were added then too. The Southwick rear axle conversion was already there when I bought the car. I did not go into the rear axle during our ownership from 2006 to 2017. Ken Suhre On Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:37:34 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: No - not mine. This is Don Brick's former car.? The current owner bought it, refurbished it to what appears to be a great standard and is now looking to sell it.? He's looking for suggestions on a good place to sell it (besides Bring A Trailer). See attached PDF - it has his contact information in it as well as a good description of the car and the work he's done on it. I'm happy to forward "selling advice" to him as well. Regards, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sat May 15 07:30:45 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Road America In-Reply-To: <609EB822-A64C-43B6-B04C-67937EFD5E80@comcast.net> References: <7B7E1220-020A-4048-8CFB-2C2BC0B4CEA0@gmail.com> <609EB822-A64C-43B6-B04C-67937EFD5E80@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2084595213.1111533.1621085445850@mail.yahoo.com> Oh how I miss the days.? The June Sprints was always the biggest national race of the year (other than The Runoffs), and Road America was one of my 2 favorite tracks (along with Road Atlanta).? I first went there in 1975, when I was first getting started, and was not very competitive.? Qualified 17th in DP with a time of 3:14 & finished 7th, mostly due to attrition.? I was a bit overwhelmed by that 4 mile track.? Over the years? The car (and I) improved to the point where I won my race twice, once in 1989 when Vic Skirmants wasn't there, then in 1991 beating Vic by a car length (or less).? I qualified first overall with a time of 2:42, and had a best time during the race of 2:41, finishing first overall. And then there were all of the weekend festivities.? The fans, watching the other races from various points on the track.? Thunder Valley, Canada Corner, the Hurry Downs, and, of course, Turn 5, a great passing spot.? Then off to Schwartz's Supper Club for dinner. I know you guys who go will have a great time, and you probably have great memories of the track as well.? Everyone have a great time, whether racing or supporting.? Good luck and be safe. Jack ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Dave Hogye via Fot To: Chuck Gee Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:18:16 PM EDTSubject: Re: [Fot] Road America Go fast and have fun you guys.? Thanks for the photo.? Can?t wait for some videos.? Dave H. Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Jerry Barker?s here too! > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: >> >> ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend.? British Extravaganza honoring Kas. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Good to see the activity reports.? >>> >>> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. >>> >>> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee.? Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell:? 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. >>>> >>>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us.? They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. >>>> >>>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. >>>>> >>>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! >>>>> >>>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >>>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From agb at compsnw.com Sat May 15 09:14:57 2021 From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 08:14:57 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Another nomination, please Message-ID: <2b986937-ceed-1854-f82f-9c6214c595b1@compsnw.com> In preparing for the Kas Cup, we have found some fellow racers, not included in FOT. I would like to nominate Jason Roosa who races a 1957 TR3A with SOVREN. Last year was his Novice year and he has fit in very well, becoming a contributing member of 'Drip Pan Alley'. The only problem I have with his car is that MY WIFE says its the prettiest Triumph out there! Thank you, Alec Buchan Bellingham, WA 1962 TR4A #5 SOVREN aka 'the Blue Caboose' -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The only problem I > have with his car is that MY WIFE says its the prettiest Triumph out > there! > > Thank you, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4 #5 SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose' > -- > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/agb at compsnw.com > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: emailsignature4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 22639 bytes Desc: not available URL: From paulricco at att.net Sat May 15 09:29:17 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 10:29:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Road America In-Reply-To: <2084595213.1111533.1621085445850@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2084595213.1111533.1621085445850@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1FA51C73-F2B3-4FF9-BF84-1B0D362BC3C0@att.net> Jack, Thank you. We appreciate the time you took to write what you did. We are having a very nice weekend. I started coming here over 40 years ago with my father. He has been gone for many years. We have a lot of great memories from here as well. Our car qualified in 2nd place for the DP Group yesterday. Only beaten by a real Yenko Stinger corvair that has a lot of professional support traveling with it. It is running 10 seconds faster than everyone in the group. We are within a second of one of the CP 356?s. I also know Vic and always enjoy spending time with him. He is not here. There are a lot if very well supported 356?s and 911?s from Ecurie here. Mark and I have been friends for decades and I enjoy learning from him. Still 3 more sessions left to catch the 356 and work on improving my driving. All-in-all we are having a great weekend. Thank you again, Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: > > ? > Oh how I miss the days. The June Sprints was always the biggest national race of the year (other than The Runoffs), and Road America was one of my 2 favorite tracks (along with Road Atlanta). I first went there in 1975, when I was first getting started, and was not very competitive. Qualified 17th in DP with a time of 3:14 & finished 7th, mostly due to attrition. I was a bit overwhelmed by that 4 mile track. Over the years The car (and I) improved to the point where I won my race twice, once in 1989 when Vic Skirmants wasn't there, then in 1991 beating Vic by a car length (or less). I qualified first overall with a time of 2:42, and had a best time during the race of 2:41, finishing first overall. > > And then there were all of the weekend festivities. The fans, watching the other races from various points on the track. Thunder Valley, Canada Corner, the Hurry Downs, and, of course, Turn 5, a great passing spot. Then off to Schwartz's Supper Club for dinner. > > I know you guys who go will have a great time, and you probably have great memories of the track as well. Everyone have a great time, whether racing or supporting. Good luck and be safe. > > Jack > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Dave Hogye via Fot > To: Chuck Gee > Cc: Friends of Triumph > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:18:16 PM EDT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America > > Go fast and have fun you guys. Thanks for the photo. Can?t wait for some videos. Dave H. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 14, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > > > ?Jerry Barker?s here too! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: > >> > >> ?Racing at Buttonwillow this weekend. British Extravaganza honoring Kas. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > >>> > >>> ?Good to see the activity reports. > >>> > >>> A Celebration of Life-Kas Kastner. > >>> > >>> Portland is also coming along nicely, with a great West Coast Kastner Cup Committee. Moss Motors is a major sponsor this year. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Joe Alexander > >>> 4505 Donald Dr > >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > >>> The-vintage-racer.com > >>> Gasketinnovations.com > >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 > >>> > >>> > >>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?We are up to a pretty good Triumph Contingency at Road America as well. Looks like 7 cars that I know of so far. > >>>> > >>>> Weather forecast is shaping up nicely and SVRA always does a great job for us. They run a great event. We should have a good Triumph weekend. > >>>> > >>>> We should have fun up here and hope everyone at Summit Point has fun as well. > >>>> > >>>> Paul > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:08 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Big contingent of FOT at Summit Point this weekend, home of the 2015 Kastner Cup. > >>>>> > >>>>> MIA this weekend is John Hasty, impatiently waiting for his new-to-him TR3B to get prepped for action. We will miss you John but looking forward to seeing you back on track soon! > >>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2021-05-11 19:01, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > >>>>>> We Hope to see some of you at Road America this weekend. > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> fot at autox.team.net > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>>>> > >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> fot at autox.team.net > >>>> > >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>>> > >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot at autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > >>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.c.cutter at gmail.com Sat May 15 20:08:38 2021 From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter) Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 05:08:38 +0300 Subject: [Fot] Another nomination, please In-Reply-To: <2b986937-ceed-1854-f82f-9c6214c595b1@compsnw.com> References: <2b986937-ceed-1854-f82f-9c6214c595b1@compsnw.com> Message-ID: Second for Jason as well! On Sat, May 15, 2021, 6:16 PM Alec Buchan via Fot wrote: > In preparing for the Kas Cup, we have found some fellow racers, not > included in FOT. > > I would like to nominate Jason Roosa who races a 1957 TR3A with SOVREN. > Last year was his Novice year and he has fit in very well, becoming a > contributing member of 'Drip Pan Alley'. The only problem I have with his > car is that MY WIFE says its the prettiest Triumph out there! > > Thank you, > > Alec Buchan > Bellingham, WA > 1962 TR4A #5 SOVREN > aka 'the Blue Caboose' > -- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/david.c.cutter at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: emailsignature4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 22639 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From john.r.davies at btinternet.com Sun May 16 05:21:41 2021 From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (John Davies) Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 12:21:41 +0100 Subject: [Fot] recent request for a piston ring maker Message-ID: <1be2701d74a45$a5707b10$f0517130$@btinternet.com> I couldn't help Terry, who is looking for someone to make bespoke piston rings for a Pre-War Triumph. But I knew some men who did, or might do, so I posted on Sideways Technologies, and they were able to point Terry towards at least two possibilities! See: http://sideways-technologies.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/9327-piston-ring- makers/&tab=comments#comment-128337 And that is the power of the Internet! John From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Mon May 17 05:44:00 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 07:44:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists Message-ID: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the top 12. Impressive results. The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well driven. The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy sports racer that ran away from the field. The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get any better than this. From ofracer at gmail.com Mon May 17 05:58:50 2021 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 07:58:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Well done, the Jefferson is a great event. I expect a large turn out for many events this year. Our HRG event in June at Lime Rock filled up a month ago, we had to turn away cars. VSCCA had a vintage racing school two weeks ago with 27 cars entered, about twice the normal turn out. Get out, drive hard, have fun Never Be Beaten By Equipment (N3BN) mike h On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 7:44 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia > > The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car > count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 > cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph > powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the > top 12. Impressive results. > > The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the > Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, > anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well > driven. > > The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic > Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy > sports racer that ran away from the field. > > The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the > front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and > while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and > driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and > hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, > getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 > times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. > But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the > line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, > pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to > start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! > > Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get > any better than this. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 >> cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph >> powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the >> top 12. Impressive results. >> >> The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the >> Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, >> anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well >> driven. >> >> The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic >> Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy >> sports racer that ran away from the field. >> >> The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the >> front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and >> while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and >> driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and >> hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, >> getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 >> times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. >> But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the >> line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, >> pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to >> start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! >> >> Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get >> any better than this. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Very nice! Great job!!! Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:45 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia > > The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car > count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 > cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph > powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the > top 12. Impressive results. > > The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the > Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, > anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well > driven. > > The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic > Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy > sports racer that ran away from the field. > > The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the > front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and > while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and > driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and > hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, > getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 > times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. > But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the > line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, > pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to > start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! > > Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get > any better than this. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jake Jacobsen On Monday, May 17, 2021, 09:48:54 AM CDT, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: We had a nice group in attendance to salute Kas Kastner with the Kastner Commemorative Decal planted on Siebkens Wall of Fame. Right over the FOT Coat of Arms. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Mon May 17 09:11:30 2021 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 10:11:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kas=E2=80=99_Legacy_Sealed_at_Siebkens=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent! Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 On Mon, May 17, 2021, 9:49 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > We had a nice group in attendance to salute Kas Kastner with the Kastner > Commemorative Decal planted on Siebkens Wall of Fame. Right over the FOT > Coat of Arms. > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Mon May 17 10:32:55 2021 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 16:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> Excellent job, Henry, and congrats to you and Scott, Mark, Vic and ALL of the Triumph Racers (the Sukeys Russ, etc-? I lost count)!? I was "watching" the races live on Race Monitor, and I don't know how many times I said to my wife, " I wish I were there".? Everyone did really well.Thanks for the update.-- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 7:44 am Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph powered specials.? Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the top 12. Impressive results. The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well driven. The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy sports racer that ran away from the field. The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get any better than this. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsukey at gmail.com Mon May 17 11:02:52 2021 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 13:02:52 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I had a great weekend, it was the first time we've been out since MidOhio last year! I've sorted a lot of things (racecar AND driver related) since my last time at Summit Point; I set a new personal best lap by 4.5 seconds- my GT6 really felt good. I pulled off early during my Saturday PM race with what I suspect is a rear brake issue, haven't looked into it yet. Looking forward to PittRace! I feel bad for the Group 4/ Small bore guys; not a single full session all weekend without a black flag all....including the enduro! Jason Sukey On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:33 PM kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > Excellent job, Henry, and congrats to you and Scott, Mark, Vic and ALL of > the Triumph Racers (the Sukeys Russ, etc- I lost count)! I was "watching" > the races live on Race Monitor, and I don't know how many times I said to > my wife, " I wish I were there". Everyone did really well. > Thanks for the update.-- Jay De Pol > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yellow04 via Fot > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 7:44 am > Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists > > Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia > > The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car > count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 > cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph > powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the > top 12. Impressive results. > > The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the > Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, > anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well > driven. > > The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic > Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy > sports racer that ran away from the field. > > The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the > front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and > while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and > driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and > hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, > getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 > times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. > But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the > line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, > pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to > start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! > > Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get > any better than this. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Mon May 17 11:06:50 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 13:06:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists In-Reply-To: References: <0275214d50b62cd54e4e2c7a79aa046b@tr4racer.com> <1755797901.1427827.1621269175023@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98126311-98D7-4EB4-A2F6-C93AE462611B@me.com> yep, small bore did not get the breaks, though I ran 17 laps in the enduro, so that?s a good bit of track time. Lots of oil on the track from the small bore crowd with mechanical failures. On May 17, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: I had a great weekend, it was the first time we've been out since MidOhio last year! I've sorted a lot of things (racecar AND driver related) since my last time at Summit Point; I set a new personal best lap by 4.5 seconds- my GT6 really felt good. I pulled off early during my Saturday PM race with what I suspect is a rear brake issue, haven't looked into it yet. Looking forward to PittRace! I feel bad for the Group 4/ Small bore guys; not a single full session all weekend without a black flag all....including the enduro! Jason Sukey On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:33 PM kkjjk--- via Fot > wrote: Excellent job, Henry, and congrats to you and Scott, Mark, Vic and ALL of the Triumph Racers (the Sukeys Russ, etc- I lost count)! I was "watching" the races live on Race Monitor, and I don't know how many times I said to my wife, " I wish I were there". Everyone did really well. Thanks for the update.-- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 via Fot > To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 7:44 am Subject: [Fot] Triumph ... Glory Still Exists Jefferson 500, Summit Point, West Virginia The pent up energy as we come out of the pandemic was apparent, the car count was off the charts. In the 3 race groups we ran in, around 106 cars posted times. Out of those 106 cars, 14 were Triumphs, or Triumph powered specials. Looking at lap times, 5 of those Triumphs were in the top 12. Impressive results. The Lola Cup race had the Spitfires, and that race was won by one of the Spits out of the Vintage Racing Services camp. No surprise there, anything our friends at VRS produce will be wicked fast and very well driven. The Donahue Cup race had the TR3, Ambro and Peerless GT running. Vic Schuster posted a great time in the Ambro, but that race had a Bobsy sports racer that ran away from the field. The Marlboro Cup race had the later TR's and GT6's. Attrition at the front over the weekend left two contenders to battle for the win, and while on paper the TR250 never had a chance against a well prepped and driven Lotus Super 7, the plan was to race the guy hard and clean and hope for a mistake. I was relentless, especially in the carousel, getting side by side on numerous occasions. I got around him at least 3 times in traffic, just to have him power around me on the next straight. But a back marker was in the right place at the right time, clogging the line on the last turn on the last lap. I used the back marker as a pick, pulled onto the front straight in the lead, and the drag race to start/finish was on. The Triumph prevailed by .092 seconds! Incredible racing, weather and camaraderie in the paddock. Doesn't get any better than this. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There were around 10 Triumphs in attendance. I ended up oiling down my Spitfire clutch Saturday morning because of a leaking transmission seal, but fixed it in time to win the DP race on Saturday afternoon! Mordy won the newly minted Kastner trophy for the highest finishing Triumph in the all British race later in the day (second overall, I was fourth). Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday. Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either. Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too. I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early. Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th. Sorry if I missed anyone else. We all had a great time hanging out at the track again. It?s fun to be around racing friends. Chuck Gee From terrysopher at gmail.com Mon May 17 12:50:40 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 14:50:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] VARA British Extravaganza In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0645E9C3-B808-4417-BD84-8B69FC04E8E5@gmail.com> Chuck - Sounds like a Great Weekend! Kudos to all. Terry > On May 17, 2021, at 14:26, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Hello all, > > We all had a great weekend at the 2021 BE this year. There were around 10 Triumphs in attendance. I ended up oiling down my Spitfire clutch Saturday morning because of a leaking transmission seal, but fixed it in time to win the DP race on Saturday afternoon! Mordy won the newly minted Kastner trophy for the highest finishing Triumph in the all British race later in the day (second overall, I was fourth). > > Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday. Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either. Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too. I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early. Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th. Sorry if I missed anyone else. > > We all had a great time hanging out at the track again. It?s fun to be around racing friends. > > Chuck Gee > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon May 17 14:43:33 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 15:43:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Dedication to the Kastner Legacy References: <0D44A81C-BD5C-46D8-8970-38C72219C8CE.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <0D44A81C-BD5C-46D8-8970-38C72219C8CE@cs.com> The Gehweiler?s GT6 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On?Monday, May 17, 2021,?Chuck Gee via Fot??wrote: Hello all, We all had a great weekend at the 2021 BE this year.? There were around 10 Triumphs in attendance.? I ended up oiling down my Spitfire clutch Saturday morning because of a leaking transmission seal, but fixed it in time to win the DP race on Saturday afternoon!? Mordy won the newly minted Kastner trophy for the highest finishing Triumph in the all British race later in the day (second overall, I was fourth).? Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday.? Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either.? Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too.? I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early.? Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th.? Sorry if I missed anyone else. 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Steve Belfer had a head gasket problem that prevented him from running Sunday.? Jerry Barker broke a differential Saturday afternoon and didn?t run Sunday either.? Alan Berry performed well in his Joe Siam Spitfire all weekend too.? I finished 2nd in DP, Alan in 3rd, and Mordy had an issue so he came in early.? Steve Jones was also there in his GT6 and finished in 5th.? Sorry if I missed anyone else. We all had a great time hanging out at the track again.? It?s fun to be around racing friends. Chuck Gee _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Scott Janzen On May 17, 2021, at 4:43 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: The Gehweiler?s GT6 Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue May 18 07:59:20 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:59:20 -0400 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 Message-ID: on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levibud at icloud.com Tue May 18 09:19:07 2021 From: levibud at icloud.com (Bud Rolofson) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:19:07 -0600 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <703DD9BD-764F-4838-9E66-77EB563A79EB@icloud.com> My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL > On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Tue May 18 10:57:31 2021 From: kkjjk at aol.com (JAY DE POL) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 12:57:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: <703DD9BD-764F-4838-9E66-77EB563A79EB@icloud.com> References: <703DD9BD-764F-4838-9E66-77EB563A79EB@icloud.com> Message-ID: Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: > > ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL > >> On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >> >> on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Tue May 18 11:51:59 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 12:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ve never seen or heard of a warranty plate for a TR6 Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2021, at 11:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot wrote: > > ?Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL >> >>> On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >>> >>> on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Tue May 18 11:52:57 2021 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 11:52:57 -0600 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, I couldn?t resist temptation. I knew I should have apologized in advance to Safron folks. I?ve seen some really nice ones at VTR. Bud Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2021, at 10:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot wrote: > > ?Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL >> >>> On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: >>> >>> on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Tue May 18 12:18:25 2021 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:18:25 -0400 Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You get the warranty plate from the Telemarketers who call my house every afternoon, just as I crawl under something or get gasket compound on my hands. mike h On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:52 PM Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: > I?ve never seen or heard of a warranty plate for a TR6 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 18, 2021, at 11:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot > wrote: > > ?Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot > wrote: > > ?My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL > > On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot > wrote: > > on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. Admittedly only 7400 miles. > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Tue May 18 13:16:38 2021 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 19:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] $50k TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1628805028.1968067.1621365398084@mail.yahoo.com> No worries, Bud.? I was just bustin ya!? You just gotta warm up to the color, that's all!-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Bud To: JAY DE POL Cc: Bud Rolofson ; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Tue, May 18, 2021 1:52 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] $50k TR6 Sorry, I couldn?t resist temptation. I knew I should have apologized in advance to Safron folks. I?ve seen some really nice ones at VTR.Bud Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2021, at 10:58 AM, JAY DE POL via Fot wrote: ? Ha! I guess I better not drive my road going Saffron GT6+ by you, Bud! Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: ? My least favorite Triumph color. I wouldn?t have driven it either. LOL On May 18, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: on BaT, and the auction has not ended yet. ?Admittedly only 7400 miles. ?https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-triumph-tr6-45/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-18 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Tue May 18 19:53:04 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:53:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] The time has come - for sale Message-ID: <64B619C1-B207-4051-9340-5A60466E1464@gmail.com> Hello all, The time has come for me to sell my original race car. A 1973 Triumph Spitfire that I have raced since 1994. It was an SCCA race car when I bought it, but it has changed quite a bit since then. Here are some of the highlights: - 2007 Kastner Cup winner - 2007 VARA DP class champion - Numerous class and overall wins - Always a top performer, one of the fastest vintage Spitfires in the country - Barker/Gee 1500 cc engine with dual Webers with only one race weekend on it - Custom dog box transmission built in the stock Triumph case with Hewland gears - Close ratio single rail gearbox as a backup - Every differential ratio available (3.62, 3.89, 4.11, 4.55), mostly welded but one Detroit Locker - well sorted suspension - a spares package to last you a lifetime - 20? enclosed trailer Won DP class at the VARA British Extravaganza just this last weekend. Fast and reliable. Come pick it up and take it to the Portland Kastner Cup this year. You will do well! Asking $20,000 including the trailer and all the spares. If you think the price is too high, make me an offer. All I can say is no. 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I think Chuck's asking price including a very nice trailer is more than fair. Act quickly on this one! On Tue, May 18, 2021, 7:55 PM Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > Quick, someone loan me $19,950 dollars! > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alanb at alanberrydesign.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronnie.babbitt at gmail.com Wed May 19 08:32:44 2021 From: ronnie.babbitt at gmail.com (Ronnie Babbitt) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 10:32:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 Message-ID: ?I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no seal in place? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow for movement? The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Video.mov Type: video/quicktime Size: 708672 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Ronnie From chip at theukmotorsports.com Wed May 19 10:24:33 2021 From: chip at theukmotorsports.com (Chip Collingwood) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 12:24:33 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, the front flange holds the pinion bearings tight. Did you mark the nut and shaft before removing them and the flange. If not then it will be difficult to get the proper pinion pre-load and depth. Chip On Wed, May 19, 2021, 12:09 PM Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote: > I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I > removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front > pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When > assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no > seal in place? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow > for movement? > > The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing > spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. > > Ronnie_______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip at theukmotorsports.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Wed May 19 12:01:02 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 14:01:02 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <032C8A6D-F7F5-4E70-9732-F6261D3BCCC2@me.com> I would add that some of these diffs used a crushable spacer, I?m told, rather than a hard spacer and shims. In that case, I?m not sure you can simply re-tighten the nut. Yes, these are tapered bearings with a spacer in between. Here?s some instructions that summarize this better than I can. If you have a nut with a cotter pin, it would seem you are in luck. The pinion seal gets a bit more involved on later diff units; if yours has a castle nut and cotter pin holding the flange to the front of the pinion you can just take it off, remove the flange and swap out the seals re-torque the nut to the work shop manual spec. If instead you find a cap similar to a front wheel bearing cap and inside that a nylock nut you must be very careful to mark the shaft the flange and the nut so on reassembly you can get them back in EXACTLY the same relative positions; THIS INCLUDES TAKING A COUNT OF EXACTLY HOW MANY TURNS THE NUT TAKES. For example: you turn the nut 12 turns and three flats to get it off, then you must turn it twelve turns and three flats putting it on. Your marks should now line up. If they don't quite line up you can tweak the nut a bit to bring them into line. If they have gone beyond DON'T back off. The reason for this fussiness is that the pinion preload is set by a crush sleeve. If you get back to the same place the preload is not changed. If you go farther you change the preload, but in a worn unit it probably won't be off much it is only a fraction of a flat we're talking about. If you back off you release the preload. On May 19, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Chip Collingwood via Fot wrote: Yes, the front flange holds the pinion bearings tight. Did you mark the nut and shaft before removing them and the flange. If not then it will be difficult to get the proper pinion pre-load and depth. Chip On Wed, May 19, 2021, 12:09 PM Ronnie Babbitt via Fot > wrote: I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no seal in place? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow for movement? The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. Ronnie_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip at theukmotorsports.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed May 19 13:24:27 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 19:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2058597564.1355564.1621452267692@mail.yahoo.com> As already mentioned, this is super-critical, you need the pinion preload.Without it the gears will be out of mesh & won't last, too much will kill the bearings .If it's a spacer & shims, just torque it all back down and you're good.If collapsible sleeve, you're screwed, unless you get very lucky.If you have to go into into it I advise considering fitting a solid spacer w/shims, it's a much better setup. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Ronnie Babbitt via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, May 19, 2021 10:32 am Subject: [Fot] Pinion bearing on GT6 I had planned to change the pinion seals on my diff while I have it out. I removed the front support bracket and removed the nut along with the front pinion seal. With the seal out of the case I have this movement. When assembled,I did not notice any movement. Is this normal movement with no seal in place?? Are the pinion bearings cone shaped? If so would this allow for movement? The gear set looks absolutely remarkablea, no scoring or wear. The bearing spins freely. This is a GT6/ Late Spit diff used in my sports six. Ronnie_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu May 20 06:40:31 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 07:40:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? Message-ID: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? Bob Kramer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 20 06:55:34 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 07:55:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0109C5F0-A767-4160-8AB9-378FB9E4AA14@gmail.com> I think you are correct. Trevor Harris, the chassis engineer, and Kas were very close. Kas never spoke much about the 300ZX, but he would likely know much about it. Trevor was one of the last people that visited Kas. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On May 20, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: > > ? > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 > > I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. > > Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? > > Bob Kramer > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu May 20 07:56:15 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 06:56:15 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? In-Reply-To: <0109C5F0-A767-4160-8AB9-378FB9E4AA14@gmail.com> References: <0109C5F0-A767-4160-8AB9-378FB9E4AA14@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8D8D0A04-D765-411B-87FD-AE7FC7CB845F@gmail.com> Kas had overall responsibility for the Nissan Motorsport program during his time there. His firm thumbprint is on all of those cars, not just the GTP program. I think Carolla is collecting Paul Newman only. He still needs the Triumph 2000 sedan? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2021, at 5:55 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?I think you are correct. > > Trevor Harris, the chassis engineer, and Kas were very close. Kas never spoke much about the 300ZX, but he would likely know much about it. > > Trevor was one of the last people that visited Kas. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >>> On May 20, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 >> >> I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. >> >> Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? >> >> Bob Kramer >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhasty at mhc-law.com Thu May 20 10:23:45 2021 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 16:23:45 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 1990 300ZX GTO-Kastner connection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shucks, it?s just up the road from me...I?ll check it out if you guys are considering a purchase.,. Sent from my iPhone On May 20, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: ? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo-56/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-05-20 I think Kas had moved into a more executive position at Nissan in 1990 but I'm thinking that the car must have been developed under his watch. It is purported to be a million dollar car and sits at over $500,000.00 on BAT as it comes down the home stretch. Adam Corolla, are you out of money yet? Bob Kramer _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at artwithcars.com Thu May 20 10:31:04 2021 From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 09:31:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] VARA All British race from Saturday, 5/14 Message-ID: Here?s my in-car race from Buttonwillow. The TR3 had some overheating issues all day but I finished 1st in class every session. Great fun with great friends. At the end of lap 1 there?s an exciting moment. I possibly overreacted and moved off the track to avoid contact. 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Dave Connitt Sent from my iPhone From timmmurphh at gmail.com Fri May 21 15:45:10 2021 From: timmmurphh at gmail.com (timmmurphh at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:45:10 -0500 Subject: [Fot] $4.42 per quart Valvoline VR1 20W-50 high zinc racing oil at Amazon Message-ID: <000a01d74e8a$9786db90$c69492b0$@gmail.com> Amazon.com has this oil for $4.42 per quart when purchased in three, 5-quart bottles. It is eligible for free Prime delivery. Your sales tax will be added to the charge. Tim Murphy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Your sales tax will be added to the charge. > > Tim Murphy > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please fill out the survey here: https://ccfot.com/survey/ If email is more your thing, reach out to me here: Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com If no response can be paired with an email address on the roster, we are assuming that email address is no longer being monitored, or the recipient no longer wants our email. Email addresses of non-responders will be removed from Mark's server, and will stop getting FOT mail. If you filled out the survey once, we have it. No email confirmation of a successful submission was sent, after you submitted the survey the web page returned a message indicating the submission was successful. If you don't submit a survey, get dropped, then reach out later to see why you are not getting our email, you are causing more work for the volunteers that make all this happen. That's time I'd rather be spending in the shop working on my race car... Everybody's cooperation is greatly appreciated! Cheers From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sat May 22 15:42:58 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 16:42:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?3_Decals=2E__FOT_Coat_of_Arms=2C_=E2=80=9COK_TO_?= =?utf-8?q?RACE=E2=80=9D=2C_Kas_Commemorative_Decal?= Message-ID: <6E52B70D-33D4-4DAE-91D8-9199F9239291@gmail.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59427 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- FOT: People are asking, so......... We have a limited quantity of each. $2.50 each. $10 Min.. Order. State Quantity of Each. PayPal: n197tr4 at cs.com. Or Check. Have envelopes, stamps, and ready to ship. Thanks, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu May 27 08:28:12 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 09:28:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Long Door - Joel & Pam Justin's TR2 Message-ID: The FOT list is primarily a list for DRIVERS, but we have our supporting ?CREW? members. John Linney has produced two films for The Kastner Cup, as well as the Kastner/Brock/TR250K Reunion. Now he has won an award for his work with Moss Motors. THE SILVER TELLY award. We will see John again at Portland. Congratulations, John! https://www.tellyawards.com/winners/2021/branded-content/general-promotional/long-door-joel-pam-justins-tr2/247865?fbclid=IwAR0xjnvVBV617djwbN4bhfnzqJCkpA4_r3eZJ6k9Esz23hDetHIb0X_4FgE Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From alfetta95 at optonline.net Fri May 28 15:46:24 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 17:46:24 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spring Cleaning Message-ID: Amici Spring cleaning the garage getting ready for the next project. I have many parts for the TR3 that I didn?t use for various reasons. Does anyone want the following items (make me an offer)or is there really any reasons to keep them. 2 Generators 2 Starters Non-adjustable steering column Pair front calipers Radiator Several copper head gaskets Bumper overriders. Both front and rear Engine fan Todd 1958 TR3a. TS 29341 From alfetta95 at optonline.net Sat May 29 06:16:53 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Redmond) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 08:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Spring Cleaning Message-ID: <1126480674.257044.1622290613692@mymail.optimum.net> Amici Spring cleaning the garage getting ready for the next project. I have many parts for the TR3 that I didn't use for various reasons. Does anyone want the following items, (make me an offer) or is there really any reasons to keep them? 2 generators 2 later style starters Non-adjustable steering column Pair of front calipers, early type Radiator Several copper head gaskets Bumper over riders Engine fan blade TR4 steering rack Thanks Todd 1958 TR3a TS29341 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They will be expensive, probably $75ish each depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some available for testing in the next 60 days or so. > > Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro issues or is it just the Spitfires? > > If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will start a list. > > Rick Parent > > "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences" > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sat May 29 07:27:48 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> Yeah the Big-TR is a candidate, the problem is largely the (lack of) quality of the replacements on the market today... Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Rick Parent via Fot To: FOT Triumph Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:08 am Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated Syncro's with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 transmissions, you know parts that last more than one weekend and probably last a lifetime comparatively speaking. The questions is, is anyone interested? They will be expensive, probably $75ish each depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some available for testing in the next 60 days or so. Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro issues or is it just the Spitfires? If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will start a list. Rick Parent "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences" _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Sat May 29 07:35:08 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 09:35:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Important - News on sponsoring new members Message-ID: We are winding up the cleanup of the inactive email addresses, and the tally is impressive. Look for the final numbers soon. As we worked through the process, we gave a lot of thought on how to keep better track of the membership. We realized we need to do an annual roll call and clarify the process we use to add new members. While the "we don?t have any rules" thing has worked well for 25 years, we are tweaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much how our self-policing group has been doing it, we just never put words to the process because we didn?t need to. And for the record, we are calling this a "guideline", not a rule! As opposed to the nomination process we have been using, we will use a "sponsorship" process going forward. First, we have the designations. All FOT members now fall into one of two categories. Drivers or Crew. Drivers are active and former drivers who turn (or have turned) the steering wheel in sanctioned competition in a Triumph or Triumph powered race car. Anyone not falling into that category will now be referred to as Crew. Only Drivers can sponsor new members. If the new member is an active or former driver, it's a done deal, we have a new FOT member. No seconds needed, we are counting on our existing Driver members to vet the new folks they sponsor. If a Driver wants to sponsor someone who is not another driver, i.e. become part of the FOT Crew, or someone who is actively on the path to becoming a driver in a Triumph they should submit that request to our membership committee through me. We think this clarification makes sense to keep our membership on point and strong. The FOT is proudly keeping Triumphs on track and relevant! Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com keeper of the website and membership roster From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Sat May 29 07:38:19 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 09:38:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] New Member Sponsorship - Mike Kurtz Message-ID: <44cb14e8675aa881171949fbf5539806@tr4racer.com> FOT - This is how we see the new sponsorship system working... I am sponsoring Mike Kurtz to join our ranks and become an FOT member. Mike is a new TR6 racer we met at Summit Point this month, from Mohnton, PA. He is the new owner of a very nicely prepared TR6 race car, he went through the VRG driver's school and did quite well with our friend Rich Rock crewing for him. Unfortunately, clutch issues prevented him from running the event over the weekend, so he has already indoctrinated to our "Never be beaten by equipment" mantra. We have since spent a bunch of time on the phone going over the finer points of climbing the steep learning curve, it's clear to me we have a new driver in our ranks. Remember, no need to "second" anything here, but if you know Mike, or Mike's car, or anything else of interest about my sponsoring Mike, by all means post away! From vfracing at aol.com Sat May 29 07:54:43 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Important - News on sponsoring new members In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2111672675.809519.1622296483411@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for doing this, Henry!Phil -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:36 am Subject: [Fot] Important - News on sponsoring new members We are winding up the cleanup of the inactive email addresses, and the tally is impressive. Look for the final numbers soon. As we worked through the process, we gave a lot of thought on how to keep better track of the membership. We realized we need to do an annual roll call and clarify the process we use to add new members. While the "we don?t have any rules" thing has worked well for 25 years, we are tweaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much how our self-policing group has been doing it, we just never put words to the process because we didn?t need to.? And for the record, we are calling this a "guideline", not a rule! As opposed to the nomination process we have been using, we will use a "sponsorship" process going forward. First, we have the designations. All FOT members now fall into one of two categories. Drivers or Crew. Drivers are active and former drivers who turn (or have turned) the steering wheel in sanctioned competition in a Triumph or Triumph powered race car. Anyone not falling into that category will now be referred to as Crew. Only Drivers can sponsor new members. If the new member is an active or former driver, it's a done deal, we have a new FOT member. No seconds needed, we are counting on our existing Driver members to vet the new folks they sponsor. If a Driver wants to sponsor someone who is not another driver, i.e. become part of the FOT Crew, or someone who is actively on the path to becoming a driver in a Triumph they should submit that request to our membership committee through me. We think this clarification makes sense to keep our membership on point and strong. The FOT is proudly keeping Triumphs on track and relevant! Henry Frye yellow04 at tr4racer.com keeper of the website and membership roster _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Sat May 29 09:52:48 2021 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 11:52:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> Most gearboxes I assemble these days have good, used OEM syncros installed, I have been having good results doing that. I did put a set of the Bastuck (German made) syncros in my Stag street car, the gearbox shifts fine but I don't drive that car even remotely aggressively. I didn't realize anybody was having issues with those German syncros. Am I missing something? On 2021-05-29 09:27, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > Yeah the Big-TR is a candidate, the problem is largely the (lack of) > quality of the replacements on the market today... > > Glen Efinger > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Parent via Fot > To: FOT Triumph > Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:08 am > Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's > > So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated > Syncro's with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 > transmissions, you know parts that last more than one weekend and > probably last a lifetime comparatively speaking. The questions is, is > anyone interested? They will be expensive, probably $75ish each > depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some > available for testing in the next 60 days or so. > > Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro > issues or is it just the Spitfires? > > If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will > start a list. From tedtsimx at bright.net Sat May 29 11:06:30 2021 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:06:30 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: The original synchros were good but as the brass "grippers" wore down, they would not slow the gears sufficiently enough.? We fixed this years ago - just face the synchro about .010" or so.? It buries the synchro deeper onto the cone and in essence you have new "grippers" on synchro ring. Ted On 5/29/2021 11:52 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Most gearboxes I assemble these days have good, used OEM syncros > installed, I have been having good results doing that. I did put a set > of the Bastuck (German made) syncros in my Stag street car, the > gearbox shifts fine but I don't drive that car even remotely > aggressively. I didn't realize anybody was having issues with those > German syncros. Am I missing something? > > On 2021-05-29 09:27, fubog1 via Fot wrote: >> Yeah the Big-TR is a candidate, the problem is largely the (lack of) >> quality of the replacements on the market today... >> >> Glen Efinger >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rick Parent via Fot >> To: FOT Triumph >> Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 9:08 am >> Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's >> >> So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated >> Syncro's with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 >> transmissions, you know parts that last more than one weekend and >> probably last a lifetime comparatively speaking. The questions is, is >> anyone interested? They will be expensive, probably $75ish each >> depending on the size of the order I can place. I should have some >> available for testing in the next 60 days or so. >> >> Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro >> issues or is it just the Spitfires? >> >> If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will >> start a list. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx at bright.net > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 103 E. Main St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat May 29 15:17:37 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 07:17:37 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: dont forget, a f good part of the "syncro problem" in all these gearboxes is worn out mating outer sleeves, gear tapers and dog teeth the "big" gearbox in TR's, Salons & Stags all have much the same issue, and you might find an even bigger application/market there Most of the repro syncros ive seen for the "big" box are worse than worn out factory ones. The most common problems ive enountereed are wrong brass used for the backing, wrong cone angle and wrong dog teeth shape, with a few even being badly out of round, so doomed to failure. whilst ive not been doing such repairs commercially for a few years now, at the end of my triumph gearbox building career, we were dismantling dozens of old gearboxes just to raid 1st and 4th syncro rings and move them into other boxes needing 2nd and 3rd. this was better than the new ones on offer at the time from vendors like Moss, Rimmers etc and even some of the UK's specialist transmission parts suppliers (basically, the people making them). ive had a fair bit of recent experience with coated syncro rings in late model Toyota gearboxes in race applications. . The factory coating has gone thru several iterations , some of them not very good at all, so caution on this front also. our race Lotus has syncros supplied by a US firm https://synchrotech-transmissions.com/carbon-synchros keep us all informed please. US$75 is not unexpected or unreasonable for a boutique order, if they actually work!. The Toyota gearbox "carbon" syncros currenty retail for about US$45-$50 ea Terry On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 11:10 PM Rick Parent via Fot wrote: > So, I am considering making a run of forged steel, heat treated Syncro's > with a Carbon friction surface for the Spit / GT6 transmissions, you know > parts that last more than one weekend and probably last a lifetime > comparatively speaking. The questions is, is anyone interested? They will > be expensive, probably $75ish each depending on the size of the order I can > place. I should have some available for testing in the next 60 days or so. > > Secondarily, is there other Triumph transmissions that have syncro issues > or is it just the Spitfires? > > If you are interested let me know how many you would like and I will start > a list. > > Rick Parent > > "*Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of > consequences*" > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cartravel at pobox.com Sun May 30 08:05:00 2021 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 09:05:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Steel Syncro's In-Reply-To: <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> References: <731351631.1486700.1622293728959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <731351631.1486700.1622293728959@mail.yahoo.com> <98644054.803590.1622294868024@mail.yahoo.com> <74f658be17f818b6033b98c5272ff59e@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: I used to rebuild transmissions for members of our local club. The owners always wanted new stuff so I kept a lot of used but still good synchros. That's one way to get good parts from your racecar. ?- Larry Young On 5/29/2021 10:52 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > Most gearboxes I assemble these days have good, used OEM syncros > installed, I have been having good results doing that. I did put a set > of the Bastuck (German made) syncros in my Stag street car, the > gearbox shifts fine but I don't drive that car even remotely > aggressively. 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