From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jul  1 06:49:14 2021
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2021 08:49:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Does anybody remember Cal Cams from Oakland, CA?
Message-ID: <16a33b54ce71bc9e3bcce41b8a04d306@tr4racer.com>

A club member bought a TR4 street car project from California and the 
camshaft in the pile of bits is stamped "Cal Cam 260". Not knowing any 
better, he installed it as a stock cam and is now a little disappointed 
by the lumpy idle. My first impression is assuming 260 implies the 
duration of the grind, 260 is really mild (like stock!) and should not 
be all that lumpy.

Does anybody have an old catalogue from Cal Cam? Any specs would be 
helpful. A cam card for their 260 grind would be really helpful!

Cheers


From cartravel at pobox.com  Thu Jul  1 09:10:47 2021
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 10:10:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Does anybody remember Cal Cams from Oakland, CA?
In-Reply-To: <16a33b54ce71bc9e3bcce41b8a04d306@tr4racer.com>
References: <16a33b54ce71bc9e3bcce41b8a04d306@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <665c1584-75bb-baf0-4b42-a00697ce2a61@pobox.com>

Why not measure it to see what you've got? The 260 could be an 0.050 
number. See https://www.tildentechnologies.com/Cams/Tips_Takes.html
 ?- Larry


On 7/1/2021 7:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote:
> A club member bought a TR4 street car project from California and the 
> camshaft in the pile of bits is stamped "Cal Cam 260". Not knowing any 
> better, he installed it as a stock cam and is now a little 
> disappointed by the lumpy idle. My first impression is assuming 260 
> implies the duration of the grind, 260 is really mild (like stock!) 
> and should not be all that lumpy.
>
> Does anybody have an old catalogue from Cal Cam? Any specs would be 
> helpful. A cam card for their 260 grind would be really helpful!
>
> Cheers
>
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  1 19:15:03 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 01:15:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre
References: <686204559.829982.1625188503409.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
Mark and a couple of his buddies have acquired the former Tony Martin TR6. This car held records at several tracks in the NE in E Prod and GT3. The car has been returned to vintage appearance and the trio is currently getting a feel for the car at SCCA Track Night in America events.
Mark - feel free to introduce yourself and the others in the team or just watch the list for a while to get a feel for the group.
I will add that the car had a setback last night at Palmer, but I know the FOT can help this team get back on the horse.

Regards,Bob Lang
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu Jul  1 19:19:22 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 01:19:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre
In-Reply-To: <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <686204559.829982.1625188503409.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1742993386.503930.1625188762655@mail.yahoo.com>

Beautiful Car. ?I came close to buying it a few years ago. ?Glad to hear that Mark is bringing it back!
SECOND!
Phil Gott


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>; msanterre14 at gmail.com <msanterre14 at gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 1, 2021 9:16 pm
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre

Hi,
Mark and a couple of his buddies have acquired the former Tony Martin TR6. This car held records at several tracks in the NE in E Prod and GT3. The car has been returned to vintage appearance and the trio is currently getting a feel for the car at SCCA Track Night in America events.
Mark - feel free to introduce yourself and the others in the team or just watch the list for a while to get a feel for the group.
I will add that the car had a setback last night at Palmer, but I know the FOT can help this team get back on the horse.

Regards,Bob Lang
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  1 20:18:18 2021
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 02:18:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre
In-Reply-To: <1742993386.503930.1625188762655@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <686204559.829982.1625188503409.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1742993386.503930.1625188762655@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1592677548.1196735.1625192298986@mail.yahoo.com>

Welcome, Mark! Always happy to see another TR6 guy! My wife races hers in the Midwest. Give a shout if you end up in Elkhart Lake!
Jake

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Fri Jul  2 03:32:10 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:32:10 +1000
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
Message-ID: <CA+UW8b2YoLPRsnMc4wfwam3cpEg+nmUqq8108-KNvCZkgzrs0A@mail.gmail.com>

could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on
front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering
changes to increase the static caster?

The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links
used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a
set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones .

I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for
many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with
"modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision.

Any comments gladly accepted

thanks

Terry
Australia
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul  2 07:41:03 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:41:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] windscreen
Message-ID: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>

I'm looking for a small windscreen for my open cockpit TR6. The type 
that would be mounted on the body? Any links to a company that makes or 
sells them would be appreciated. I would also consider a used one in 
good condition.
Thanks,
Mike Kurtz

From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 09:08:44 2021
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 15:08:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] windscreen
In-Reply-To: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
References: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <303263745.1069721.1625238524641@mail.yahoo.com>

 If you want a full-width windscreen check with Ted @ TSI, he can likely help.
Glen Efinger
 
 
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To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 2, 2021 9:41 am
Subject: [Fot] windscreen

I'm looking for a small windscreen for my open cockpit TR6. The type 
that would be mounted on the body? Any links to a company that makes or 
sells them would be appreciated. I would also consider a used one in 
good condition.
Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 11:22:45 2021
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 17:22:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] windscreen
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 I made one for my TR3 from a helmet visor.? Made a few aluminum brackets to attach it.? JoeB
    On Friday, July 2, 2021, 09:42:00 AM EDT, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I'm looking for a small windscreen for my open cockpit TR6. The type 
that would be mounted on the body? Any links to a company that makes or 
sells them would be appreciated. I would also consider a used one in 
good condition.
Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:10:15 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 02:10:15 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic
Message-ID: <001f01d76f9f$cd646170$682d2450$@gmail.com>

After this long break from this Covid shit I took the car to Spa.

 

The races went well, with minor problems (dirt in carbs).

Main problem was me?as driver. I?ve lost some speed. I hope I find the seconds missing one day:

 

https://youtu.be/9ix_2N7elxk

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 18:24:45 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 00:24:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic
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References: <001f01d76f9f$cd646170$682d2450$@gmail.com>
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Very nice!You dispatched that Corvette handily!


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To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, Jul 2, 2021 8:11 pm
Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic

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After this long break from this Covid shit I took the car to Spa.

 ?

The races went well, with minor problems (dirt in carbs).

Main problem was me?as driver. I?ve lost some speed. I hope I find the seconds missing one day:

 ?

https://youtu.be/9ix_2N7elxk

 ?

Cheers

Chris

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From msanterre14 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 20:02:56 2021
From: msanterre14 at gmail.com (Mark Santerre)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 22:02:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New member
Message-ID: <CANRE_fLaq4BgtB66hUwp3osMC3h-jCgr0-fXVDhE3krhJV+a0A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi my name is Mark and I was nominated to the group by Bob Lang
Thank you Bob and all the members who welcomed me.
As Bob said I am one of three guys who now own the 70 TR6 that belonged to
Tony Martin.
Bob had mentioned we suffered a set back wed at Palmer 1-1/4 lap into TNiA
the right front spindle sheared off at the seal boss.
 The front is mostly all custom parts.
Spindles were oversize made by Group 44 ,
Hubs are custom with Jaguar rotors,and 4 piston JRZ on one side Sierra on
the other
The JRZ mounting ears were snapped off when axle let go.
We have a spare spindle but are having trouble  finding a caliper.
Would anyone have an idea where I could possibly  find one.

Mark
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Mon Jul  5 21:56:16 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 03:56:16 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
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________________________________
From: Henry A. Morrison
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
Subject: Z car drums

Happy 4th Triumph lovers,

Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.

The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.

Henry Morrison
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sun Jul  4 21:40:49 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 22:40:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup and others
Message-ID: <59936.1625456449@mitchelplumbing.com>

I somehow have been dropped from the mailing list and have been trying to get back on, unsuccessfully.
I'd like to at the least have some information concerning the Kas cup and possibly other items.
can someone forward me info or try to get me reinstaed on the mailing list.
And yes I have tried to do it my self with no luck.
thanks,
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Tue Jul  6 09:29:53 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 10:29:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
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You can have them re-lined.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> From: Henry A. Morrison
> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
> To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
> Subject: Z car drums
>  
> Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
> 
> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
> 
> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
> 
> Henry Morrison 
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Tue Jul  6 09:38:29 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 08:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75836F5D87E3C5DC83723F29901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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Hello Henry,
Centric is the company that made the drums on my TR.  I remember they had both iron and aluminum and it was a little difficult confirming the correct aluminum unit part number.  I know I have the part number recorded.  I'll try getting that for you.  Hopefully they are still available.  If you do find them, be sure to have them turned for truing before using them and after the modifications to fit your Triumph.
Dave H. 

>     On 07/05/2021 8:56 PM Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>      
>      
>      
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Henry A. Morrison
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>     To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
>     Subject: Z car drums
>      
>     Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
>      
>     Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
>      
>     The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
>      
>     Henry Morrison 
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 10:07:14 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 16:07:14 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Z car drums
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB758356949075941C80C7905E901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Thank you for all the responses for the Z car Drums.  I ordered some from the "Z Store" and hope to have them installed in time for the Cup!  My old ones are starting to get cracks around the bolt holes which probably isn't a big deal considering how well the drums are currently being lubricated.  I suppose my next topic will be separating axles, or buying the new Ford setup.......................

Looking forward to Portland, and still neck deep in Triumph projects.

Henry Morrison, Salt Lake City
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue Jul  6 10:47:08 2021
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 12:47:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <FC054F22-4A80-4EA4-BF27-0FC81029820C@wi.rr.com>
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Allen,

Who relines the z drums?  I have two sets that I?d like to have lined. 

Thanks I?m advance
Todd



> On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?You can have them re-lined.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> From: Henry A. Morrison
>> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
>> To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
>> Subject: Z car drums
>>  
>> Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
>> 
>> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
>> 
>> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
>> 
>> Henry Morrison 
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 13:57:33 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 19:57:33 +0000
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.

Cheers,

Henry Morrison
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From emanteno at comcast.net  Tue Jul  6 14:08:45 2021
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 15:08:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAFWFMyjJF2EwqEH=HE1H6v50dWDBd7VOLgigBxa3AG+D1ztj2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Henry,

I really think that since your car will be more balanced front to rear due
to those heavy brake drums, you are now the odds
on favorite to win the Kastner Cup. Congratulations, and see you in
Portland.

Irv Korey

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 2:58 PM Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they
> don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Henry Morrison
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 14:31:54 2021
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:31:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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 Aha! This must be why Karen didn't set a new lap record at RA... Darn cast iron!

Jake
    On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 02:57:41 PM CDT, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.??
Cheers,?
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 14:53:47 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 13:53:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>

I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!  

Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.  
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Henry Morrison
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Jul  6 15:22:46 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 23:22:46 +0200
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <005601d772ad$11345530$339cff90$@gmail.com>

I still run on the standard drums.

They do well on my car.

So far I had no need for alfin drums.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Henry A. Morrison via
Fot
Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juli 2021 21:58
An: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup, It will be because of my
heavy steel brake drums!

 

Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they
don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.  

 

Cheers, 

 

Henry Morrison

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Tue Jul  6 17:06:50 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 09:06:50 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <FC054F22-4A80-4EA4-BF27-0FC81029820C@wi.rr.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75836F5D87E3C5DC83723F29901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
 <FC054F22-4A80-4EA4-BF27-0FC81029820C@wi.rr.com>
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i have several sets , but shipping from Oz  to USA will be prohibitive.

ive not had any troubles machining them and using slightly oversized linings

Ive never considered Alans idea of fitting anew cast iron inner.

Terry



On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:30 AM Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> You can have them re-lined.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Henry A. Morrison
> *Sent:* Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
> *To:* FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
> *Subject:* Z car drums
>
> Happy 4th Triumph lovers,
>
> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to
> be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.
>
> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to
> select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.
>
> Henry Morrison
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 17:09:21 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 23:09:21 +0000
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>,
 <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB7583004498E26FD52CAFED1C901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I am going to the shed to dig out some cast iron drums just to regain Chuck's respect.  The money I save will be reinvested in installing the heater back in the TR, just in case I need to defrost my Brooklands screen.  Or in more wire wheels........

One or the other.

Henry

________________________________
From: Chuck Gee <chasgee22 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 2:53 PM
To: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup, It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!

I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!

Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.

Cheers,

Henry Morrison
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 20:30:54 2021
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:30:54 -0600
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>
References: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1DD440C1-BD67-4623-801C-C8D73259992F@yahoo.com>

Say what you may about Henry but he schooled us New Mexicans (SWMS) well.
After first race I won in the Plum Pi, Earl and Greg Miller (Sprite racers) walked by as I was changing tires. Did I get a ?congrats?? No!
Greg pointed out my ?illegal? cross-drilled rotors? ?Just ask Henry? he said. Took them off before the next race and they?re probably still on the shelf. How Henry has let Walt get away I don?t know. But I suspect a pay-off!
Cheers Henry? and all,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!  
> 
> Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuck Gee
> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.  
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> 
>> Henry Morrison
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 21:27:46 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 03:27:46 +0000
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <1DD440C1-BD67-4623-801C-C8D73259992F@yahoo.com>
References: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>,
 <1DD440C1-BD67-4623-801C-C8D73259992F@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB7583479A1E15E5C992DED1B9901A9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

LOL!!!!

Cheers, Henry

________________________________
From: Greg Hilyer <lunkercars at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 8:30 PM
To: Chuck Gee <chasgee22 at gmail.com>
Cc: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>; fot <FOT at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup, It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!

Say what you may about Henry but he schooled us New Mexicans (SWMS) well.
After first race I won in the Plum Pi, Earl and Greg Miller (Sprite racers) walked by as I was changing tires. Did I get a ?congrats?? No!
Greg pointed out my ?illegal? cross-drilled rotors? ?Just ask Henry? he said. Took them off before the next race and they?re probably still on the shelf. How Henry has let Walt get away I don?t know. But I suspect a pay-off!
Cheers Henry? and all,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

On Jul 6, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!

Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.

Cheers,

Henry Morrison
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From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Wed Jul  7 19:28:46 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 20:28:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <CA+UW8b3wiVGZgokD2fnjPL_WOVPceNT8PJ8Ekr6qFvUCTLVO9Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <04CB4863-C309-4022-A761-566809BC2B6B@wi.rr.com>

J&G - the drum brake experts. McHenry, Illinois
815. 276. 2578

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Enquiries Road & Track <enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au> wrote:
> 
> ?
> i have several sets , but shipping from Oz  to USA will be prohibitive. 
> 
> ive not had any troubles machining them and using slightly oversized linings
> 
> Ive never considered Alans idea of fitting anew cast iron inner.
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:30 AM Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> You can have them re-lined.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> From: Henry A. Morrison
>>> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
>>> To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
>>> Subject: Z car drums
>>>  
>>> Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
>>> 
>>> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
>>> 
>>> Henry Morrison 
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>>> 
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul  9 15:26:26 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:26:26 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
Message-ID: <fd1165ca-05f2-0bf9-7f20-351e4b0429be@ptd.net>

For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. 
If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire 
pressure to begin with?

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 TR6

From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Jul  9 15:37:43 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:37:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <fd1165ca-05f2-0bf9-7f20-351e4b0429be@ptd.net>
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Message-ID: <4D96081C-215A-4949-849D-110C49D84BC8@me.com>

I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.  I called Toyo tech a while back, and they told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was the R888s - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now).  I?ve found that the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot.  Varies by corner- on most tracks I start my left front  a little lower because it gets the biggest workout, right rear higher. 

BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers, these like more camber.  I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and rear.  Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.  Be interesting to see what the Tr6 drivers say.


On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire pressure to begin with?

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 TR6
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jul  9 15:49:08 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:49:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <4D96081C-215A-4949-849D-110C49D84BC8@me.com>
References: <fd1165ca-05f2-0bf9-7f20-351e4b0429be@ptd.net>
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TR-4, 205-55/16's - I run 26 psi cold front, 24 psi cold rear. Will be 
mid 30's hot.? More than about 26 cold and they start to get skatey.? If 
I run more rear pressure I get understeer, but moving the rear up or 
down by a PSI makes a significant difference.? With IRS you'll likely 
have them closer to each other in pressure.

Love those tires.? Switched to them when Yokohama stopped making the 
205-60/15 A048's.

Cheers, Tony Drews

On 7/9/2021 4:37 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
> I run 205-60/13s on the GT6. ?I called Toyo tech a while back, and 
> they told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was 
> the R888s - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now). 
> ?I?ve found that the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot. 
> ?Varies by corner- on most tracks I start my left front ?a little 
> lower because it gets the biggest workout, right rear higher.
>
> BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers, 
> these like more camber. ?I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and 
> rear. ?Actually closer to 3 on the fronts. ?Be interesting to see what 
> the Tr6 drivers say.
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot 
> <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
> For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. 
> If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire 
> pressure to begin with?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 TR6
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 15:51:43 2021
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:51:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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Same here for Hoosiers, if I have the help I'll have them check the
pressures immediately off the track, maybe at black flag station, go around
the car and set to the desired hot, then they are preset for next session.
BTW, you might check those tires will be legal, my recollection is 60
series is as fat as we can go in Vintage

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:37 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.  I called Toyo tech a while back, and they
> told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was the R888s
> - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now).  I?ve found that
> the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot.  Varies by corner- on most
> tracks I start my left front  a little lower because it gets the biggest
> workout, right rear higher.
>
> BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers, these
> like more camber.  I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and rear.
> Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.  Be interesting to see what the Tr6
> drivers say.
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. If
> anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire pressure
> to begin with?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 TR6
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jul  9 16:58:31 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:58:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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They are not entirely legal, (should be 15" 60 series).? The only 
remaining 15" 60 series tire I can run is the Hoosier Speedster at $1000 
per set and last me 1.5 race weekends.? Economics dictate that I "cheat" 
on this one.

- Tony

On 7/9/2021 4:51 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote:
> Same here for Hoosiers, if I have the help I'll have them check the 
> pressures immediately off the track, maybe at black flag station, go 
> around the car and set to the desired hot, then they are preset for 
> next session.
> BTW, you might check those tires will be legal, my recollection is 60 
> series is as fat as we can go in Vintage
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:37 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.? I called Toyo tech a while back, and
>     they told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this
>     was the R888s - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run
>     now).? I?ve found that the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to
>     hot.? Varies by corner- on most tracks I start my left front ?a
>     little lower because it gets the biggest workout, right rear higher.
>
>     BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s
>     Hoosiers, these like more camber.? I have about 2.5 degrees
>     negative front and rear.? Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.? Be
>     interesting to see what the Tr6 drivers say.
>
>
>     On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot
>     <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15
>     tires. If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good
>     (cold) tire pressure to begin with?
>
>     Thanks,
>     Mike Kurtz
>     1970 TR6
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 17:47:23 2021
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 19:47:23 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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Yikes $1000, I think the reason it came up for me was because I had 50's on
the car when I went to request a log book. That's ok, the 60's barely fit
the GT6

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:58 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> They are not entirely legal, (should be 15" 60 series).  The only
> remaining 15" 60 series tire I can run is the Hoosier Speedster at $1000
> per set and last me 1.5 race weekends.  Economics dictate that I "cheat" on
> this one.
>
> - Tony
> On 7/9/2021 4:51 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote:
>
> Same here for Hoosiers, if I have the help I'll have them check the
> pressures immediately off the track, maybe at black flag station, go around
> the car and set to the desired hot, then they are preset for next session.
> BTW, you might check those tires will be legal, my recollection is 60
> series is as fat as we can go in Vintage
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:37 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.  I called Toyo tech a while back, and they
>> told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was the R888s
>> - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now).  I?ve found that
>> the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot.  Varies by corner- on most
>> tracks I start my left front  a little lower because it gets the biggest
>> workout, right rear higher.
>>
>> BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers,
>> these like more camber.  I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and rear.
>> Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.  Be interesting to see what the Tr6
>> drivers say.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. If
>> anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire pressure
>> to begin with?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike Kurtz
>> 1970 TR6
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Sat Jul 10 06:33:05 2021
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 12:33:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
Message-ID: <BL0PR04MB45295364CA226EE81A2347E2B4179@BL0PR04MB4529.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don't think it is COVID related.

The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?

Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

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From tlizzard at msn.com  Sat Jul 10 07:02:47 2021
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:02:47 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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I?ve noticed that non resistor NGKs have been replaced by the resistor type of the same heat range.  I?ve been putting them in street cars for a while now with no apparent issues on my customer?s cars.  Will they affect any changes on a race application?  Honestly I?m not sure, but most electronic ignitions require some kind of resistance in the plug wires, so I can?t see that they would hurt anything.  I?m certainly not going to stop using NGKs, they are the best.

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From: Michael Moore via Fot<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 8:33 AM
To: Amici Triumphi<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs

I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.

The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?

Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

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From 65356sc at msn.com  Sat Jul 10 07:08:06 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:08:06 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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You might try a motorcycle supply house like Cycle Gear for non-resistor options.

Lee

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Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 6:02 AM
To: Michael Moore <mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com>; Amici Triumphi <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Sparkplugs


I?ve noticed that non resistor NGKs have been replaced by the resistor type of the same heat range.  I?ve been putting them in street cars for a while now with no apparent issues on my customer?s cars.  Will they affect any changes on a race application?  Honestly I?m not sure, but most electronic ignitions require some kind of resistance in the plug wires, so I can?t see that they would hurt anything.  I?m certainly not going to stop using NGKs, they are the best.



Terry Stetler



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From: Michael Moore via Fot<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 8:33 AM
To: Amici Triumphi<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs



I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.



The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?



Thanks, Mike



62 TR4, Race car

63 TR4, Street car



Mike & Becky Moore

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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 07:45:38 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:45:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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 My applications are almost all TR6, so your part numbers may be slightly different...

This happened (the plugs became unavailable) with the NGK 6 heat-range plugs last year.
The only difference I noticed with the NGK BPR6ES and the BP6ES was no static on AM radio.
The NGK BPR7ES should work fine on your race car.
FWIW, I recently ordered 7's from Summit Racing and they "back ordered". This happened last year with the 6's, so I expect a notice from Summit to the effect that the BP7ES is NLA and they'll cancel the order.
It's not Covid - it's manufacturers dumping product lines that have low volume. That and "consolidation". They look at storing products and long inventory turns and jettison the slow moving products.
Regards,Bob Lang



    On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 8:33:27 AM EDT, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  
I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.
 
 ?
 
The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?
 
 ?
 
Thanks, Mike
 
 ?
 
62 TR4, Race car
 
63 TR4, Street car
 
 ?
 
Mike & Becky Moore
 
6050 Ruhl Road, Fairview, PA 16415
 
814-323-0698
 
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 10 07:48:13 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:48:13 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday.

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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 08:07:47 2021
From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 14:07:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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 I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars.?
    On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday.?
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Jul 10 08:27:48 2021
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Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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I shim mine to meet the cam maker?s requirements, and usually find there is a range of a few shims within which they are all set the same.  I also find that after two seasons the springs have lost about 30 lb seat pressure.  I routinely rev my GT6 to 7k (same valve train as your Spit) and figured out that at a typical race weekend at Summit Point it might go to redline 560 times (about eight times a lap).  your results may vary!

Anyway, a 30 lb loss is over 10%.  My settings are roughly 60 lb closed, 230 lb open at 0.523 lift.  I run the Isky VWE 005/SP116.  They also make a set with a softer inner spring (SP006) if you don?t need as much spring pressure.
I have a fairly radical cam, and these springs are adequate, have been running them for years.  Other manufacturers offer what seem to be similar but not identical spec springs, but if you open up the box  and they have orange paint on them, they are these Iskys.  It seems others re-package and sell them.  I?ve found this twice from other manufacturers, such as comp cams.

My guesses are:
you may not routinely run over 7k and have not noticed this before.
It may be valve float
If it?s a recent change, look for a broken valve spring
make sure your spring loads match the cam maker?s requirements.
If you have been running these springs ?forever?, replace them.  They are a wear item.

See you at Pitt race!

On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars. 

On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday. 

Thanks,
Marty
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Sat Jul 10 09:27:44 2021
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:27:44 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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Marty, how much over 7k are you taking your engine?  Valve springs are indeed a wear item, I replace them on the engines I build by probably the 3rd rebuild.  This is true for all makes of engines.  I have a very nice spring checker that I use and checking the spring pressures at install height and nose (max compression) is an integral part of each rebuild.

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve spring pressures

I shim mine to meet the cam maker?s requirements, and usually find there is a range of a few shims within which they are all set the same.  I also find that after two seasons the springs have lost about 30 lb seat pressure.  I routinely rev my GT6 to 7k (same valve train as your Spit) and figured out that at a typical race weekend at Summit Point it might go to redline 560 times (about eight times a lap).  your results may vary!

Anyway, a 30 lb loss is over 10%.  My settings are roughly 60 lb closed, 230 lb open at 0.523 lift.  I run the Isky VWE 005/SP116.  They also make a set with a softer inner spring (SP006) if you don?t need as much spring pressure.
I have a fairly radical cam, and these springs are adequate, have been running them for years.  Other manufacturers offer what seem to be similar but not identical spec springs, but if you open up the box  and they have orange paint on them, they are these Iskys.  It seems others re-package and sell them.  I?ve found this twice from other manufacturers, such as comp cams.

My guesses are:

  *   you may not routinely run over 7k and have not noticed this before.
  *   It may be valve float
  *   If it?s a recent change, look for a broken valve spring
  *   make sure your spring loads match the cam maker?s requirements.
  *   If you have been running these springs ?forever?, replace them.  They are a wear item.

See you at Pitt race!

On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars.

On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday.

Thanks,
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sat Jul 10 09:52:19 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 09:52:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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Marty;
How certain are you that the loss of power is cam-related? It could be a fuel delivery issue. Easy to check with an air-fuel ratio gauge. You might notice the mixture getting leaner as revs increase. 
Phil Gott


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2021, at 9:28 AM, LEE FOLLANSBEE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Marty, how much over 7k are you taking your engine?  Valve springs are indeed a wear item, I replace them on the engines I build by probably the 3rd rebuild.  This is true for all makes of engines.  I have a very nice spring checker that I use and checking the spring pressures at install height and nose (max compression) is an integral part of each rebuild.
> 
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 7:27 AM
> To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
> Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
>  
> I shim mine to meet the cam maker?s requirements, and usually find there is a range of a few shims within which they are all set the same.  I also find that after two seasons the springs have lost about 30 lb seat pressure.  I routinely rev my GT6 to 7k (same valve train as your Spit) and figured out that at a typical race weekend at Summit Point it might go to redline 560 times (about eight times a lap).  your results may vary!
> 
> Anyway, a 30 lb loss is over 10%.  My settings are roughly 60 lb closed, 230 lb open at 0.523 lift.  I run the Isky VWE 005/SP116.  They also make a set with a softer inner spring (SP006) if you don?t need as much spring pressure.
> I have a fairly radical cam, and these springs are adequate, have been running them for years.  Other manufacturers offer what seem to be similar but not identical spec springs, but if you open up the box  and they have orange paint on them, they are these Iskys.  It seems others re-package and sell them.  I?ve found this twice from other manufacturers, such as comp cams.
> 
> My guesses are:
> you may not routinely run over 7k and have not noticed this before.
> It may be valve float
> If it?s a recent change, look for a broken valve spring
> make sure your spring loads match the cam maker?s requirements.
> If you have been running these springs ?forever?, replace them.  They are a wear item.
> 
> See you at Pitt race!
> 
> On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars. 
> 
> On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Marty
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 10:00:45 2021
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 10:00:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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I don?t remember where I got this tidbit of wisdom (may have been a NGK tech) but my rule of thumb is to not use a resistor plug with a resistor plug wire.
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM

> On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:33 AM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.
>  
> The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?
>  
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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 10 11:09:13 2021
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:09:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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That has always been my practice.

Bruce

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 12:01 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I don?t remember where I got this tidbit of wisdom (may have been a NGK
> tech) but my rule of thumb is to not use a resistor plug with a resistor
> plug wire.
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> Albuquerque NM
>
> On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:33 AM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy
> some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of
> places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody
> else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.
>
>
>
> The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?
>
>
>
> *Thanks, Mike*
>
>
>
> 62 TR4, Race car
>
> 63 TR4, Street car
>
>
>
> Mike & Becky Moore
>
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>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jul 12 05:40:46 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 07:40:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
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I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  

Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.

Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.

Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.

You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  

I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.

Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.

Scott Janzen,
?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.

On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 

The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 

I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 

Any comments gladly accepted

thanks

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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 06:07:01 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 05:07:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
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You can play with these suspension settings and try to detect the effect of the changes, assuming you have some way of obtaining an infinite amount of track time or a skid pad (limited but useful) to do the testing, or you could get a simulation program to play with. That?s how I initially dialed in Peyote and the results were good. These are dynamic systems with a lot of variables that interact. It?s not easy to optimize, but a good suspension simulation program can model everything that?s going on. The biggest problem then becomes modeling our ancient cars with their odd suspension components that no modern engineer would ever dream of using in a modern car. It can be done by approximation?even a TR3/4?s bonkers trunnion system can be approximated, it takes some work and will never be completely accurate?but it?s a lot closer than cut and try will get you. 

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> On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
> I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  
> 
> Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.
> 
> Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.
> 
> Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.
> 
> You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  
> 
> I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.
> 
> Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.
> 
> Scott Janzen,
> ?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.
> 
> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
> could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 
> 
> The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 
> 
> I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 
> 
> Any comments gladly accepted
> 
> thanks
> 
> Terry 
> Australia
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jul 12 06:21:27 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 08:21:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
In-Reply-To: <55D15261-E6FF-4D41-8AA7-14300145AFC9@ponostyle.com>
References: <55D15261-E6FF-4D41-8AA7-14300145AFC9@ponostyle.com>
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I also just monitor tire temp across the tread and wear patterns, figuring that?s a decent indicator of how the rubber is hooked up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?You can play with these suspension settings and try to detect the effect of the changes, assuming you have some way of obtaining an infinite amount of track time or a skid pad (limited but useful) to do the testing, or you could get a simulation program to play with. That?s how I initially dialed in Peyote and the results were good. These are dynamic systems with a lot of variables that interact. It?s not easy to optimize, but a good suspension simulation program can model everything that?s going on. The biggest problem then becomes modeling our ancient cars with their odd suspension components that no modern engineer would ever dream of using in a modern car. It can be done by approximation?even a TR3/4?s bonkers trunnion system can be approximated, it takes some work and will never be completely accurate?but it?s a lot closer than cut and try will get you. 
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
>> I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  
>> 
>> Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.
>> 
>> Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.
>> 
>> Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.
>> 
>> You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  
>> 
>> I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.
>> 
>> Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.
>> 
>> Scott Janzen,
>> ?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.
>> 
>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 
>> 
>> The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 
>> 
>> I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 
>> 
>> Any comments gladly accepted
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Terry 
>> Australia
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 06:44:26 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 05:44:26 -0700
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
In-Reply-To: <30FAA457-EA43-45B3-855B-38C270C7FA98@me.com>
References: <55D15261-E6FF-4D41-8AA7-14300145AFC9@ponostyle.com>
 <30FAA457-EA43-45B3-855B-38C270C7FA98@me.com>
Message-ID: <33C8E22F-8BA6-45B4-A930-24A28EAA3ED3@gmail.com>

It?s a start, though off the top of my head there are three suspension settings that influence that, and of course tire pressure is the most direct variable with camber second. 

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 5:21 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> 
> I also just monitor tire temp across the tread and wear patterns, figuring that?s a decent indicator of how the rubber is hooked up.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?You can play with these suspension settings and try to detect the effect of the changes, assuming you have some way of obtaining an infinite amount of track time or a skid pad (limited but useful) to do the testing, or you could get a simulation program to play with. That?s how I initially dialed in Peyote and the results were good. These are dynamic systems with a lot of variables that interact. It?s not easy to optimize, but a good suspension simulation program can model everything that?s going on. The biggest problem then becomes modeling our ancient cars with their odd suspension components that no modern engineer would ever dream of using in a modern car. It can be done by approximation?even a TR3/4?s bonkers trunnion system can be approximated, it takes some work and will never be completely accurate?but it?s a lot closer than cut and try will get you. 
>> 
>> Bill Babcock
>> Beach Bum
>> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com>
>> https://www.Ponostyle.com
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
>>> I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  
>>> 
>>> Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.
>>> 
>>> Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.
>>> 
>>> Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.
>>> 
>>> You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  
>>> 
>>> I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.
>>> 
>>> Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.
>>> 
>>> Scott Janzen,
>>> ?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 
>>> 
>>> The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 
>>> 
>>> Any comments gladly accepted
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Terry 
>>> Australia
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Tue Jul 13 09:42:43 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 08:42:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Final Kastner Cup Schedule
Message-ID: <1281274347.83465.1626190963389@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

We now have the final Provisional schedule for the Kastner Cup weekend.  For those that are planning to attend, please be sure to print out this schedule as it includes our social events as well as the racing times and supplemental information.

Load in starts Wednesday at about 5:00 p.m.  The Triumphs will be placed in the paddock together, so make sure you let them know at entry that you're with the Kastner Cup.  The test day is Thursday, 8 to 1 p.m.  Look for the SVRA virtual drivers meeting on Facebook, otherwise you'll need to attend the mandatory drivers meeting in person.

The Kastner Cup race group will run two qualification sessions that set the grid for the Saturday race.  On Sunday we have a Fan Walk planned at lunch, with the Reunion race at 1:45.

Social events include a Celebration of Life for Kas on Thursday late afternoon, British Sportscar Hall Of Fame reception on Friday, and of course the Kastner Cup awards at 4:30 on Saturday after the race.

Please check in at the Kastner Cup tent on Thursday afternoon to receive your commentative items. and pay your $50 Kastner Cup Committee registration fee.  We cut the FOT fee in half this year because of sponsorship, plus we've added special items.  A really cool Kastner Cup Nomex drivers suit patch will be provided that's FIA approved.  We also have a dash plaque, tee shirt, and poster.  A limited number of tee shirts, posters, and dash plaques will be available for purchase (cash or check please as we don't have a credit card machine).

Joe Alexander is our Grand Marshall of course.  I'd also like to thank the other members of the Race Committee including John Linney, Steve Balfer, Shawn Frank, Cregg Cowan and Sean Alexander.

Curt Johnston
Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair
curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Tue Jul 13 09:46:35 2021
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 15:46:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Final Kastner Cup Schedule
In-Reply-To: <1281274347.83465.1626190963389@connect.xfinity.com>
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 Hi, Curt-? Is there any way that T-shirts can be made available to those of us whom cannot attend??? Thanks-? Jay De Pol
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:42 am
Subject: [Fot] Final Kastner Cup Schedule

   Hello FOT,   ?   We now have the final Provisional schedule for the Kastner Cup weekend.? For those that are planning to attend, please be sure to print out this schedule as it includes our social events as well as the racing times and supplemental information.   ?   Load in starts Wednesday at about 5:00 p.m.? The Triumphs will be placed in the paddock together, so make sure you let them know at entry that you're with the Kastner Cup.? The test day is Thursday, 8 to 1 p.m.? Look for the SVRA virtual drivers meeting on Facebook, otherwise you'll need to attend the mandatory drivers meeting in person.   ?   The Kastner Cup race group will run two qualification sessions that set the grid for the Saturday race.? On Sunday we have a Fan Walk planned at lunch, with the Reunion race at 1:45.   ?   Social events include a Celebration of Life for Kas on Thursday late afternoon, British Sportscar Hall Of Fame reception on Friday, and of course the Kastner Cup awards at 4:30 on Saturday after the race.   ?   Please check in at the Kastner Cup tent on Thursday afternoon to receive your commentative items. and pay your $50 Kastner Cup Committee registration fee.? We cut the FOT fee in half this year because of sponsorship, plus we've added special items.? A really cool Kastner Cup Nomex drivers suit patch will be provided that's FIA approved.? We also have a dash plaque, tee shirt, and poster.? A limited number of tee shirts, posters, and dash plaques will be available for purchase (cash or check please as we don't have a credit card machine).   ?   Joe Alexander is our Grand Marshall of course.? I'd also like to thank the other members of the Race Committee including John Linney, Steve Balfer, Shawn Frank, Cregg Cowan and Sean Alexander.   ?   Curt Johnston   Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair   curt.johnston at comcast.net   707-249-1667  _______________________________________________
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Tue Jul 13 17:39:35 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:39:35 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Pitt Race
Message-ID: <dae5d897-a3b4-9cba-c05a-9785d6367038@ptd.net>

Safe travels and good luck to everyone who will be attending the VRG 
Pitt Race this week/weekend!
I hope to see you all there.

Mike Kurtz
Yellow 1970 TR6? (#651)

From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 18:29:13 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 20:29:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Pitt Race
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References: <dae5d897-a3b4-9cba-c05a-9785d6367038@ptd.net>
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I just had a track session today at pit race. The track is in excellent
shape, and the facilities are in wonderful shape too. It should be a
wonderful weekend.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 7:47 PM finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Safe travels and good luck to everyone who will be attending the VRG
> Pitt Race this week/weekend!
> I hope to see you all there.
>
> Mike Kurtz
> Yellow 1970 TR6  (#651)
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 15:13:44 2021
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:13:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Cams & Misc Other Parts
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Amici,

Everything needs to go!  Bundle Deal - $300, plus shipping!

Cams for Spitfire:

#1 - New Isky large journal Spitfire - ZM-66+10 grind - 278 duration 
#2 - Very Good/excellent (used) BBR-504 on new cam blank, parkerized(small journal Spitfire)
- 1296 (good OE) Rear engine plate (1)
- 1296 (good OE) Front engine plate (1)
- Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) Timing cover (2)
- 1296 (good OE) Distributor (1)
- NOS distributor cap 1296 - (4)
- New TRW GDB535 brake pads (fit spitfire front discs) with 15% more surface area (1 set)
- 1296 New distributor Rotor (3)
- 1296 (good OE) Stan-part rocker shaft, rockers, pedestal 
- 1296 (good OE) valve cover (1)
- Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) rear main seal housing (2)
- Spitfire MK1-3 (very nice) steering column mount/brackets set (1)
- Spitfire (good used) 3/4? sway bar
- MK1 Spitfire (good used) Gauge Dash panel - metal, not wood! (1)
- TS Imported New Clutch plate - (10 spline - Spit)  (1)
- Grant (Good used) 11.5? steering wheel (1)
- MK2-MK3 Spitfire (very nice OE) Tachometer (1)

I would like all these parts to go to a good home and to be put in use again!!  PM me with if interested.

Thanks, Terry 
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 17:52:56 2021
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:52:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Cams & Misc Other Parts
In-Reply-To: <8D2A6AEF-B61F-430D-8703-8BD840E41467@gmail.com>
References: <8D2A6AEF-B61F-430D-8703-8BD840E41467@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D92B0B73-1CFA-42D6-8B5A-A63D28114FAB@gmail.com>

Sold - Thanks!

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 17:13, Terry Sopher <terrysopher at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Amici,
> 
> Everything needs to go!  Bundle Deal - $300, plus shipping!
> 
> Cams for Spitfire:
> 
> #1 - New Isky large journal Spitfire - ZM-66+10 grind - 278 duration 
> #2 - Very Good/excellent (used) BBR-504 on new cam blank, parkerized(small journal Spitfire)
> - 1296 (good OE) Rear engine plate (1)
> - 1296 (good OE) Front engine plate (1)
> - Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) Timing cover (2)
> - 1296 (good OE) Distributor (1)
> - NOS distributor cap 1296 - (4)
> - New TRW GDB535 brake pads (fit spitfire front discs) with 15% more surface area (1 set)
> - 1296 New distributor Rotor (3)
> - 1296 (good OE) Stan-part rocker shaft, rockers, pedestal 
> - 1296 (good OE) valve cover (1)
> - Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) rear main seal housing (2)
> - Spitfire MK1-3 (very nice) steering column mount/brackets set (1)
> - Spitfire (good used) 3/4? sway bar
> - MK1 Spitfire (good used) Gauge Dash panel - metal, not wood! (1)
> - TS Imported New Clutch plate - (10 spline - Spit)  (1)
> - Grant (Good used) 11.5? steering wheel (1)
> - MK2-MK3 Spitfire (very nice OE) Tachometer (1)
> 
> I would like all these parts to go to a good home and to be put in use again!!  PM me with if interested.
> 
> Thanks, Terry 
>> 
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Sat Jul 17 11:16:08 2021
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 17:16:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 for sale
Message-ID: <DM6PR04MB4540823CB76917E715675587B4109@DM6PR04MB4540.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

A friend of mine, knows old cars but not Triumphs, is helping a wife whose husband died, sell this tr4. He has no idea how much to ask for it. I can get more info on it, but if know it is not running right now.

If anyone has some ideas or is interested I can get you in touch with him.

The car is in Pittsburgh, PA

Thanks
Mike

Michael T. Moore, CPA
3255 West 26th Street
Erie, PA 16506

Phone:  814-616-8652  ext 100
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 14:54:57 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:54:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Podium of Triumph
Message-ID: <2559E915-E95E-4566-9ACD-96852059BAFA@gmail.com>

GT6.  TR4,  Spitfire.   Good weekend at Brainerd.  Portland next.

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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sun Jul 18 21:57:11 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 20:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Podium of Triumph
In-Reply-To: <2559E915-E95E-4566-9ACD-96852059BAFA@gmail.com>
References: <2559E915-E95E-4566-9ACD-96852059BAFA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <840050127.34787.1626667031750@connect.xfinity.com>

Excellent!  Congratulations to the Triumph gang.  I recognize Sean, who are the others?
Dave H.

> On 07/18/2021 1:54 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> GT6.  TR4,  Spitfire.   Good weekend at Brainerd.  Portland next.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jul 22 09:44:58 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:44:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
Message-ID: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>

I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68 GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to tell for sure with them installed.

Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 09:49:05 2021
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:49:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmo4o85Me0C7+iqzFTbwjH5iMR-n7hpucdq2-06G0qiJUp2Ng@mail.gmail.com>

Scott,
       Mk3 GT6 and Mk4/1500 Spitfires use different glass than the earlier
GT6's.

I think the GT6 mk1 and plus may share the same glass with the TR4-6

Jason

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I
> may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of
> the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68
> GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to
> tell for sure with them installed.
>
> Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
> _______________________________________________
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 10:22:55 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:22:55 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>

Scott, a trick I use for interchangeability is look up the stock part
number at Rimmer Bros. and compare it to the "new" model in question.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128
Mk1 and MK2 (GT6+) are the same part number.

mike

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I
> may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of
> the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68
> GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to
> tell for sure with them installed.
>
> Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
> _______________________________________________
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 10:27:48 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:27:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
 <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVYrL-VoxWHPy07xhMw2VbOF_GQn8BYe5_yYCs+DXzqWNg@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot to add the link to the round tail Spitfire parts
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005867

The windshield is the same, PN 906707CLEAR, for all of them.

mike h

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott, a trick I use for interchangeability is look up the stock part
> number at Rimmer Bros. and compare it to the "new" model in question.
> https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128
> Mk1 and MK2 (GT6+) are the same part number.
>
> mike
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I
>> may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of
>> the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68
>> GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to
>> tell for sure with them installed.
>>
>> Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jul 22 10:52:22 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:52:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVYrL-VoxWHPy07xhMw2VbOF_GQn8BYe5_yYCs+DXzqWNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
 <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAO0FjVYrL-VoxWHPy07xhMw2VbOF_GQn8BYe5_yYCs+DXzqWNg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A331FB72-D006-4280-9626-753A5898DDE5@me.com>

good idea! Moss shows the same, actually lists the cars from ?62-?70 as all using the same windshield - Spit, GT6, Tr4-250-6

On Jul 22, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com> wrote:

I forgot to add the link to the round tail Spitfire parts
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005867 <https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005867>

The windshield is the same, PN 906707CLEAR, for all of them.

mike h

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com <mailto:ofracer at gmail.com>> wrote:
Scott, a trick I use for interchangeability is look up the stock part number at Rimmer Bros. and compare it to the "new" model in question.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128 <https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128>
Mk1 and MK2 (GT6+) are the same part number.

mike 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68 GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to tell for sure with them installed.

Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Jul 22 11:11:58 2021
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:11:58 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
Message-ID: <8a15a4e4-6273-5124-2b7a-9d75df744741@bradakis.com>

Yes, the TR4, 4A, 250, 6, and roundtail Spits and GT6 are all the same.

mjb.



From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul 23 18:06:42 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:06:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spark Plugs
Message-ID: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>

I've been using NGK-BP6ES plugs in my TR6, and am having a difficult 
time finding them. I am also having difficulty finding Champion N9YC 
plugs. It seems that non-resistor plugs are tough to find, and if you 
do, the price is outrageous.

Looking for leads on where to find the above plugs, or suggestions on 
alternatives.

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Jul 23 20:07:50 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 22:07:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spark Plugs
In-Reply-To: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>
References: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <BC0C58A3-DAC2-4FEB-83C0-C1F2DE560434@me.com>

Looks like advance auto and some eBay suppliers have them for about $2.25 each

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? I've been using NGK-BP6ES plugs in my TR6, and am having a difficult time finding them. I am also having difficulty finding Champion N9YC plugs. It seems that non-resistor plugs are tough to find, and if you do, the price is outrageous. 
> 
> Looking for leads on where to find the above plugs, or suggestions on alternatives.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul 23 21:00:44 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:00:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spark Plugs
In-Reply-To: <001301d7802c$4053a960$c0fafc20$@wi.rr.com>
References: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>
 <001301d7802c$4053a960$c0fafc20$@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <7300273f-f7fe-f897-5a65-40050e050e7e@ptd.net>

One site describes the Champion 300 N9YC as resistor, and another as 
non-resistor; that is what is confusing. I always thought with a 
resistor plug, an 'R' was in the number.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353433976077?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D233149%26meid%3D310d80f20475439da7221ed44c8ae3bc%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D353276293525%26itm%3D353433976077%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseWithPLXWeb%26brand%3DChampion+Spark+Plug&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A353433976077310d80f20475439da7221ed44c8ae3bc%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAACELXFongyDDYBjt%252Bnb0VtFa36tNiT8kLcm%252FzJMpq71WhI%252BIQKWi5HBahPFbhED2bmS%252FUSu8q72Gv2FTAwRWuce5COAfe2mkuqhJe6ep8mXYpuK1uid27rtRJTnL8FG7TMBFC0jw5c%252BeBi4SBhtCGuyceUpu%252BCrqhlpDiBO1%252BWRcKfJd3bH9%252BmI8y1OC0hsjwpBCQuQuzLZurs5NOB0EWd7%252F29dT9p72SD4yyiErFa59I8mRzPhJKJYVngG1pDOTP%252FFLQBh5xbLAEsFlDFCeWHc7vfU3U6RN%252BEOJcFeGXOa943hoaeQ2yK9oczX%252FfxLAXeGlFRY78Ns87wjh%252FxdbVrelt1A4pK7GXHBe%252BEs80P0NtuLmY0BoGXZjuk03dIESOz%252BQY690RhPpmr3mTECzraY%252BwOUEVVJEqwkIlkqJ%252FqBTzATWkog0b7Ju041GPIW8%252FfZ5rIvmZOSK5U%252FmqgfifxN%252BBM0Wbin87T3jZzBp4h%252FcvIfqwHp1nvbVTcR4IPQbM1BPOIFFOLQIft5LQA2oaR9bRhLFpPElJ7rbB4z0EN2xEHMFBsOPsq27MMmDGXp3r2mwSz21TNW6C2YzIVd1iWZ7teiqR39JTdbdpLpYY6D54jl%252BAvwAlKq7vwLrdsL6dRru9aSq96uJyOoBGUcYK%252BB%252BUookSmACXlVKf1GvwtOa%252FD9IQi8vytPR6u592H2rhbUg%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675&epid=81198061

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Non-Resistor-Copper-Plug-Champion-Spark-Plug-300-/353276293525

It's hard to imagine that one site would sell them for $2.99 and on 
another site $16.79, but then who knows.

Thanks for bearing with me.

Mike






On 7/23/2021 9:35 PM, tr4 at wi.rr.com wrote:
>
> SparkPlugs.com: N9YC $2.99 Champion 300 Spark Plug - Best Car 
> SparkPlug Replacement 
> <https://www.sparkplugs.com/champion-300-n9yc-nickel-spark-plug>
>
> How about $2.99 each and nearly 100 in stock.
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Finishing 
> Touch via Fot
> *Sent:* Friday, July 23, 2021 7:07 PM
> *To:* fot at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Fot] Spark Plugs
>
> I've been using NGK-BP6ES plugs in my TR6, and am having a difficult 
> time finding them. I am also having difficulty finding Champion N9YC 
> plugs. It seems that non-resistor plugs are tough to find, and if you 
> do, the price is outrageous.
>
> Looking for leads on where to find the above plugs, or suggestions on 
> alternatives.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
>

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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 14:29:11 2021
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 14:29:11 -0600
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Auto_parts_funnies=E2=80=A6?=
References: <1DF03346-108A-4B31-A65E-50BDCBBBBBC6.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1DF03346-108A-4B31-A65E-50BDCBBBBBC6@yahoo.com>

Many years ago I needed a TR water pump quick. Tried NAPA - no listing? Asked them to check a ?58 Ferguson TO20 tractor and Bingo! they had it on the shelf!
Today I needed a oil filter for the ?58 Fergie TO20. No listing - only for a TO35. Had him try a ?58 TR3 and Bingo! #1302 and on the shelf. Go figure?
Have fun in Portland! Sorry to say that yet again I?m going to miss the call to grid.
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM

From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 15:42:08 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:42:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] I Know it's not Portland, but...
References: <1712476111.855833.1627162928479.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1712476111.855833.1627162928479@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
A few of us Triumphisti were at PittRace last weekend for the PVGP Historics. We mostly made it through the rain and other challenges, but here's the Sunday AM "medium bore" race from my car. Henry any Scott were right behind me at the end. Great fun.
2021 PittRace Sunday Feature

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 10:40:29 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 09:40:29 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
Message-ID: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>

Inquiring minds would like to know.

Chuck

From emanteno at comcast.net  Sun Jul 25 12:18:10 2021
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:18:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
References: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff Quick
TR4 #51

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Inquiring minds would like to know.
>
> Chuck
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 12:23:11 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:23:11 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
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Irv beat me to it.

Between Eric and I, we have over 10,000 photos to go through, but once I
do, I will post the link here on the list.

I have some video and footage on my Facebook page, North American Triumphs
and will have much more when I get back to Iowa.

Check out North American Triumphs here:
www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
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Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 11:19 AM Irv Korey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Jeff Quick
> TR4 #51
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Inquiring minds would like to know.
>>
>> Chuck
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 14:56:22 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 13:56:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
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Congrats Jeff!

Thanks,

Chuck

> On Jul 25, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Irv Korey <emanteno at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Jeff Quick
> TR4 #51
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Inquiring minds would like to know.
>> 
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sun Jul 25 15:17:08 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 14:17:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <CAJRV2eZh_Mgk320ym2Se5KwB-6Y5BpLWR0=4GdRoTn4hmcYXYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
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Thanks guys.  Congratulations Jeff!  
The group photo shows a really nice turnout.  
I'll look forward to seeing some videos.
Dave H.

>     On 07/25/2021 11:23 AM Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>      
>      
>     Irv beat me to it. 
>      
>     Between Eric and I, we have over 10,000 photos to go through, but once I do, I will post the link here on the list. 
>      
>     I have some video and footage on my Facebook page, North American Triumphs and will have much more when I get back to Iowa.
>      
>     Check out North American Triumphs here:http://www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
>      
> 
>     Shawn Frank
>     The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
>     North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
>     Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
>     Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
>     Iowa British Car Club
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> 
>     On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 11:19 AM Irv Korey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
>         > >         Jeff Quick
> >         TR4 #51
> > 
> >         On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > 
> >             > > > Inquiring minds would like to know.
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From rick.parent at att.net  Sun Jul 25 16:03:17 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 22:03:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup results
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Rick Parent
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sun Jul 25 17:05:32 2021
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 18:05:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
Message-ID: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>

Guys,

Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point. 

The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam. 

Thanks

Greg

Sent from my iPhone

From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 25 17:42:06 2021
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (James Palmer)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:42:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
References: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>

Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love to follow along!

Jamie Palmer


> On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Guys,
> 
> Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point. 
> 
> The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Greg
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 18:53:05 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:53:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
References: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
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Message-ID: <CAL43nSmBgjBPfEk4Owmzbrdr5SZYjBVj1PfzzB4oFJmKwFaxFA@mail.gmail.com>

This is a fascinating concept. Triumph endurance! ;)

Brian Dolan

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:42 PM James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love
> to follow along!
>
> Jamie Palmer
>
>
> > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Guys,
> >
> > Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to
> port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a
> base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point.
> >
> > The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From seacubeco at aol.com  Sun Jul 25 18:56:03 2021
From: seacubeco at aol.com (Christopher)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:56:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
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Guys,  

I don?t have a fuel map or any other information but I have seen on YouTube that someone did a home made fuel injection on a mgb (I think). 

Another management system is speedurino.  

I hope this helps

Chris. 

> On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:42 PM, James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love to follow along!
> 
> Jamie Palmer
> 
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Guys,
>> 
>> Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point. 
>> 
>> The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 06:35:40 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 07:35:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <CAL43nSmBgjBPfEk4Owmzbrdr5SZYjBVj1PfzzB4oFJmKwFaxFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
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Message-ID: <CABFvdWvc19YsRAjufxZL9=f=i=q1E5T5HwFF-4ODkS92GW8AmQ@mail.gmail.com>

We've done pretty well over the years, right up until we didn't. I'm pretty
sure we finished more than we DNF'd, but I have selective memory issues and
haven't been on every race team. We've had a few big failures overall, but
mechanically the car is up to it.  We did have a ring and pinion fail at
COTA. That could happen on the highway. That was years after we smoked a
diff early on in the summer heat at TWS before we realized that GL4 is
great for 20 minute vintage races but not for 8 hours straight. The heat
melted the poly diff mounts!  Aggressive dives are to be avoided as more
modern cars have us both on the acceleration and the braking. The front end
of a fiberglassed fendered TR6 is no match for the right rear 1/4 of a BMW
M3. More recently a 50 year old rocker called it quits. I'm sure there are
other fails I have blocked out.

Most of our problems can be traced back to our Lemon's roots and our build
it out of the scrap bin mentality. The wheels are hand me down American
Racing slots and we have more than once forgotten the fact that we needed
wheel spacers or the shouldered nuts would bottom out. We had to clean out
the repurposed fuel cell to remove disintegrating foam at the first race.
Street gas is different than race fuel. Over a decade later we have a
decent engine (about to become more responsive to throttle input), a close
ratio J-type, CV joint rear axles, fiberglass fenders and doors, and a very
trick removable front 1/2 clip from the BMW wars. We also found a couple of
TR6 manuals that list the TR6 as having a 13.5 gallon fuel tank.  I have
never been able to put much more than 11 in a stock tank, but whatever, the
rules allow us 2 gallon over stock specs and since we are counting the 71"
TR6 inner fender expansion tank as another 1/2 gallon we are putting in a
16 gallon fuel cell.  We figure we are good for 2 hour stints. At least the
car is.

Bob Kramer


On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:53 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> This is a fascinating concept. Triumph endurance! ;)
>
> Brian Dolan
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:42 PM James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love
>> to follow along!
>>
>> Jamie Palmer
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?Guys,
>> >
>> > Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to
>> port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a
>> base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point.
>> >
>> > The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> >
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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 06:50:29 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 08:50:29 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
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 <CAL43nSmBgjBPfEk4Owmzbrdr5SZYjBVj1PfzzB4oFJmKwFaxFA@mail.gmail.com>
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That?s awesome and terrific dedication.

We keep breaking stub axles.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 8:36 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> We've done pretty well over the years, right up until we didn't. I'm
> pretty sure we finished more than we DNF'd, but I have selective memory
> issues and haven't been on every race team. We've had a few big failures
> overall, but mechanically the car is up to it.  We did have a ring and
> pinion fail at COTA. That could happen on the highway. That was years after
> we smoked a diff early on in the summer heat at TWS before we realized that
> GL4 is great for 20 minute vintage races but not for 8 hours straight. The
> heat melted the poly diff mounts!  Aggressive dives are to be avoided as
> more modern cars have us both on the acceleration and the braking. The
> front end of a fiberglassed fendered TR6 is no match for the right rear 1/4
> of a BMW M3. More recently a 50 year old rocker called it quits. I'm sure
> there are other fails I have blocked out.
>
> Most of our problems can be traced back to our Lemon's roots and our build
> it out of the scrap bin mentality. The wheels are hand me down American
> Racing slots and we have more than once forgotten the fact that we needed
> wheel spacers or the shouldered nuts would bottom out. We had to clean out
> the repurposed fuel cell to remove disintegrating foam at the first race.
> Street gas is different than race fuel. Over a decade later we have a
> decent engine (about to become more responsive to throttle input), a close
> ratio J-type, CV joint rear axles, fiberglass fenders and doors, and a very
> trick removable front 1/2 clip from the BMW wars. We also found a couple of
> TR6 manuals that list the TR6 as having a 13.5 gallon fuel tank.  I have
> never been able to put much more than 11 in a stock tank, but whatever, the
> rules allow us 2 gallon over stock specs and since we are counting the 71"
> TR6 inner fender expansion tank as another 1/2 gallon we are putting in a
> 16 gallon fuel cell.  We figure we are good for 2 hour stints. At least the
> car is.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:53 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This is a fascinating concept. Triumph endurance! ;)
>>
>> Brian Dolan
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:42 PM James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love
>>> to follow along!
>>>
>>> Jamie Palmer
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > ?Guys,
>>> >
>>> > Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to
>>> port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a
>>> base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point.
>>> >
>>> > The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Greg
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > fot at autox.team.net
>>> >
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Jul 26 07:34:02 2021
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Redmond)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:34:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR3a Head light trim
Message-ID: <1964092769.116554.1627306442731@mymail.optimum.net>

Friends,


Does anyone have a set of the deeper head light trim rings that they'd be willing to part with?  They don't have to be perfect, just usable.

1958 TR3a TS 29341

Thanks for listening

Todd
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From vfracing at aol.com  Mon Jul 26 08:05:01 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 10:05:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3a Head light trim
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Todd.
I have some rings. Could off a ?57 or a ?65 4A. How would I recognize them?
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2021, at 9:34 AM, Redmond via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Friends,
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a set of the deeper head light trim rings that they'd be willing to part with?  They don't have to be perfect, just usable.
> 
> 1958 TR3a TS 29341
> 
> Thanks for listening
> 
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 08:38:38 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 07:38:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
Message-ID: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>

I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 

First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 

Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 

Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.

Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8

Bill Babcock
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 08:55:56 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 07:55:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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You?re a class act Bill, nicely done.  We will all miss seeing you pilot the Petote!

Thanks,

Chuck

> On Jul 27, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> 
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> 
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> 
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> 
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
> 
> Bill Babcock
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Tue Jul 27 09:45:48 2021
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:45:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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ust
All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).? ? The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.? It must have been quite the experience for Curt.? ??
as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'.?hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)
best?
Mordy?

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From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2

I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones.?
First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt.?
Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car.?
Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <1246164974.144176.1627400748988@mail.yahoo.com>
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <1246164974.144176.1627400748988@mail.yahoo.com>
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <1246164974.144176.1627400748988@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B6D701983A974D618C94147655843E63@Charly>

I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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Message-ID: <888D106019314BE896B9D11BEEF6B26F@Charly>

I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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Message-ID: <31AB7367E5434D729D2A7E87CEFCDFA4@Charly>

I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue Jul 27 10:02:43 2021
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 12:02:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
Message-ID: <D254D588-356D-4309-BCF1-739F5419F0BD@optonline.net>

And THATS why this is called the gentlemen?s sport.   Well done Bill!!



> On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> 
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> 
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> 
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> 
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
> 
> Bill Babcock
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 10:35:57 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:35:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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Bill, may I use this in publication?

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 9:41 AM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the
> Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was
> running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water
> temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten
> more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones.
>
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I
> mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it
> too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his
> position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by
> him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into
> race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the
> straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish
> and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while
> I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a
> long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so
> just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make
> good. It was a legitimate win for Curt.
>
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a
> great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to
> work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start
> his relationship with a great car.
>
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who
> can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced
> more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a
> third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched
> way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands
> of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my
> last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car
> deserves better.
>
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
>
> *Bill Babcock*
> *Beach Bum*
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 10:36:52 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:36:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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Sure. 

> On Jul 27, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Shawn Frank <continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Bill, may I use this in publication?
> 
> Shawn Frank
> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
> Iowa British Car Club
> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
> 515-339-4228
> 
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 9:41 AM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> 
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> 
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> 
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> 
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8 <https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8>
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
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> https://www.Ponostyle.com <https://www.ponostyle.com/>
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Tue Jul 27 17:22:04 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:22:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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Bill,

I don't believe I deserved the win, but I'll pay it forward at some future date!  It was a totally unexpected thrill that I'll never forget.  Thank you Bill!

As everyone may be aware I had problems with the TR8 all weekend.  I only got about 14 hot laps on a new track for me.  So I stepped into the TR7 without the proper preparation for the race.  I knew I had to go deep into the corner to maintain the lead, but Oh Sh......I totally cooked it into the corner.  I left you with no other choice than run off track.  It was my fault, so I didn't feel you needed to give back the spot.

I agree with the comment below; well done Bill.  I owe someone a favor in return!

Curt Johnston 

>     On 07/27/2021 9:02 AM Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>      
>      
>     And THATS why this is called the gentlemen?s sport.   Well done Bill!!
>      
>      
> 
> 
>         > > On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >     > 
>         > >         I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> >          
> >         First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> >          
> >         Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> >          
> >         Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> >          
> >         Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
> >          
> >         Bill Babcock
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 09:22:37 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:22:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
Message-ID: <CAJRV2eYGWnecr_K8bx_rPnLXVPP-o+p4PCzME=ZoC9UzsJKiMw@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR. Accredit
the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our Kastner Cup
Champion, Jeff Quick!

Dropbox link with doc and photos...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0

Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
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From jhassall at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 09:42:39 2021
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 11:42:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
In-Reply-To: <CAJRV2eYGWnecr_K8bx_rPnLXVPP-o+p4PCzME=ZoC9UzsJKiMw@mail.gmail.com>
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Great job, as usual, tnx Shawn

?
jim    W4BEA
Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR. Accredit the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our Kastner Cup Champion, Jeff Quick!
> 
> Dropbox link with doc and photos...
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0
> 
> Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
> 
> 
> Shawn Frank
> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
> Iowa British Car Club
> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
> 515-339-4228
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> fot at autox.team.net
> 
> http://www.fot-racing.com
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 10:45:16 2021
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:45:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
In-Reply-To: <CAJRV2eYGWnecr_K8bx_rPnLXVPP-o+p4PCzME=ZoC9UzsJKiMw@mail.gmail.com>
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 Thanks, Shawn!? Excellent work!? Congrats to Jeff Quick (great name) and all the winners!-- Jay De Pol
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2021 11:22 am
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report

Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR. Accredit the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our Kastner Cup Champion, Jeff Quick!
Dropbox link with doc and photos...https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0
Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 11:11:21 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 12:11:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
In-Reply-To: <2138165747.734226.1627490716879@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAJRV2eYGWnecr_K8bx_rPnLXVPP-o+p4PCzME=ZoC9UzsJKiMw@mail.gmail.com>
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That name will look good on the trophy!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 11:46 AM Jay De Pol via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks, Shawn!  Excellent work!  Congrats to Jeff Quick (great name) and
> all the winners!-- Jay De Pol
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2021 11:22 am
> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
>
> Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR.
> Accredit the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our
> Kastner Cup Champion, Jeff Quick!
>
> Dropbox link with doc and photos...
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0
> Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
>
> Shawn Frank
> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
> Iowa British Car Club
> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
> 515-339-4228
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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Jul 29 07:39:57 2021
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 07:39:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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On 7/27/21 8:38 AM, Ponostyle via Fot wrote:
>
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8 
> <https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8>
>
>

Now if this happened in a Spec Miata race, there would have been 
bloodshed in the pits.


mjb.



From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Jul 29 08:56:50 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 07:56:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Kastner Cup Awarded, Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners,
 Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
In-Reply-To: <1136980574977.1102444951134.1725086925.0.1611001JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com>
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It's good to see this prominent announcement and article in my email this morning and thought I should share it.
Cheers,
Dave H.

>     ---------- Original Message ----------
>     From: Vintage Motorsport Magazine <info at vintagemotorsport.com>
>     To: dlhogye at comcast.net
>     Date: 07/29/2021 7:05 AM
>     Subject: Kastner Cup Awarded, Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners, Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
>      
>      
>     Vintage Motorsport eNews
>      
>     07.29.2021 | Editors: Scott and Cyndi Paceley
>      
>     View in Browser www.vintagemotorsport.com https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc0MdiLxOaY0wcnIW_ozpnN4DNBrw1Xfz4mnSg6PbE_AQ3bMgLe-X4-bitU80u4UlKOUYs0paCZTlD4wrgBAANhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
>      
>     Kastner Cup Goes to Jeff Quick https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKgWHGdohH1v9Mt7BkuQcpOVfhKJYToXeEqO8EMVLwJVOc7haD4JDGoIDZpw5Zy_KQJuz1C9J9eZc5IMeLlUR9lKfSpm1AyyRaGaWe72leEn4qAGksvcy_ruJ98o-NboGzzXraHHOekyQmDqY7iQewXM=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
>      
>     2021 Kastner Cup awardee Jeff Quick (front) with his Triumph mates. Photo: North American Triumphs
>      
>     Portland, OR -- Last Saturday?s 19th Kastner Cup vintage race at Portland International Raceway -- the first without its co-founder and namesake https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKq5NtTZ8CW0LhXk2zWS9DbWbjBmlCT-kllfvGLTF5GqeZl1HTpKoiTfmf1kHE2g9ECl93bVZik35vtHD-_3bpwAkIEilZ-SgvxagVg-wSu1AWY9FN0VkTzTjAU1CpnHRt-EaA2wirg_m8pdvuxLLfhmZVgrw8uLcqNQx9_3grdGC&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== who passed away in April ? was a fitting tribute to the late R.W. ?Kas? Kastner.
>      
>     Read more at VintageMotorsport.com https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcK6dRyIsmCRFhiI7SAxvUCYGeSpIYCy_GHYzXMg4GicVqkxZAua2IM18uDidyqjmljfx2gyzpUFkq-sfZulCOMCcu7JIZEbVBxIYMkvocDTyZ66p5jVVMk3pVGDqnlceA_ZUiTr1swpSYOINzkfMaRg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
>      
>     Over 200 Cars Already Confirmed for Woodward Dream Show
>      
>     Photo: Woodward Dream Show
>      
>     Pontiac, MI ? Car entries are still being accepted https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc69ZBfuBE8W4_VGz-LnTP4wpVESzNcdobf2LD5DeSm8fGnIVieG76_QmSvcWFmiCJDzLPoQMZ8rz7PVL4raN-wACM1yPWTG5wK3cyV4GwkIbVTU3HcKefmw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== for the Aug. 20 Woodward Dream Show at the M1 Concourse, and organizers hope to generously exceed the current roster of 200-plus cars.
>      
>     Read the full story, including videos with two car owners, on VintageMotorsport.com https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcWNdrNQA2FKHtXwmbgtr7XbkKHEIakHeYuuORLpR2zUHKWSJRe8bohZrg1n89ttzvOJlMa2a9YQKnq-g83GaHXrYAxLKvr_dW2RH_IE4bi4d1KPxiZaP-1klMXfJcFXr4qifSpjClcJ_qELKbFK2bmGZcAu_C1ASEQ5uTwFITAOo=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== . https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKpgWsJkGlYJBCpkV76-jAJWdLkvy-DNxFdzPBvikmT57ZKWdJAk8owFZ4fIhFJXDg-P0jpOu-8ZRPW8yevvmz94P_gcHvOlQLY2b9H8Su5avp64AO3RtziSV_N7UZ2kpGUv8-umTv3L0QXX2YxNp_4h1_IQnPu_vA2k2jm1Mi4tSKntw9aQS9gzPM-8aJgxsQRrL2DNOQ3YsjLrGZKJ0UeUoIerW03DWjA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     ICYMI: Sept. 23 RRDC Dinner Will Fete Rick Mears https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
>      
>     Photo: Scott LePage/Motorsport Images
>      
>     RACER colleague Marshall Pruett brings the good news that the Road Racing Drivers Club dinner, an annual event that has been part of the Long Beach Grand Prix weekend for more than a decade, is returning. This year?s honoree is Rick Mears.
>      
>     Read the full story on VintageMotorsport.com. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcLzqGkDy_NoQxd4PVQWoFDPDxUqpbz2WFG9hnFEaU8bxxTTzznOutg7IYLbyUy1hV6h39GPv95V-Tl9xJKQ7LqOcgtDKJZXeDT-u0FYH_I7D1hW5sMFAmE8xbcIodlSmGYyGzxKbqu7sPNrSbzcyRAIUhhF2YjbZaxa081PuYJmNkyysVf1Yykg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
>      
>     Revolant? Will Offer Jim Clark Retrospective https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
>      
>     The event will offer an upclose look at the Lotus Type 34 . Photo: Bonhams Auctions
>      
>     Carmel, IN ? Revolant?, part of the Aug. 27-29 Artomobilia weekend https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcErcD8clyvhNO_h5ZzbOdKIjGQfa28MN8o5a8pKQrwQA4wDlZqT71ISqqfQBzX-umiSM8a0QOOfDPnqYY-zjgUpfMHgSRJD7v7rpK2EG3B4Q=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that features the Shift Road Rally, Fuelicious, Artomobilia and more, will donate 100% of ticketed revenue to programming support for the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum.
>      
>     Set for Aug. 29, the idea behind Revolant? is the celebration of revolutionary automotive machinery, their visionary designers and the courageous drivers that have influenced road and race cars. What better place to do that than near the Racing Capital of the World?
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>     An amazing collection of cars in a variety of featured and specialty classes https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc7td3tqcgUz764NXBUykkf1hMsw6hdZ5VdDLJ8Q6RaAKY2lje-c2pedL1737xIMx8zWlyUEXXjuNeQRlWSbp7Ow9AXKp_j6tVdwW5zWYhhX4=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== ? including three eras of Indianapolis pace cars -- will be displayed on the grounds of the Bridgewater Golf Club https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcnT35mh4u4HyFQIfoeOCFs7f9Qafne4z9fzioBhxn0cDk2fdZAqY0pPDRpcCGQyZGoGXwRZhYypKvCe0Fx4HCSVTT8ox69LsG&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== in Carmel, Indiana. Among the highlights will be the event?s retrospective on Jim Clark and the Lotus Type 34, showing how the superior handling of a lightweight, rear-engine chassis redefined performance on the track.
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>     Artomobilia had announced in August 2019 that Revolant? would make its event debut in 2020, but the entire weekend was canceled. Purchase VIP or regular guest tickets. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcY8eyCopwXTI1zS2WbgWU_O9PW9ZZ6efOHRHMDW-98cr3QJjwCZkcQ8ue7DXUGVnpTlOk5WJhhfqzXLGAUchc6UbKrYP5p0oGgq_LFb1ha4U=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     FYI, the Aug. 28 Artomobilia https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcAsKcTpCeFfy6t-zWHDnaCAH8hRTgOvIKX5ScQPaUNXk0_nlFuGgYPpQCejK3xcmnmP2lWvFYaiDXiDFhJi0Oq-pb3KxdRwvXN-nlFwvTcg8=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== event in the Carmel Arts & Design District now includes car exhibits open to BMW, Lotus and Porsche. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcSe-JHLY4m_E_RWMXxwvRorqKsMsk4yCBgM3emAa6QWq-BcFzx64rYdA4-TdzL-shlDH7abbIDb3dzIVt1YWLBGqxa7Y4yX9c&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Monterey Momentum: Mecum Auction Preview
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>     Walworth, WI ? Among the newest additions to Mecum?s 600-car lineup for its Aug. 12-14 Daytime Auction at the Hyatt Regency Monterey Hotel and Spa is a group of three Shelby American cars.
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>     First is a 1967 Shelby 427 ?Semi Competition? Cobra https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchf4XezBwh8W1tWI7F5Li2iOhdmo7Eh7qqTLk-pdpKKt9yZ4IjjSwyyoNFWBt7otOoXpywEswwDYMqNO51RSVb0zYtoLyI1tAePNpGcUOj2l2Sr5huk9uftgBzm72BouQiu1aiwjoXhPtBOxf5B14lLf_xvHOmQ97beUsANPi-6yRDXgJ48vazE7-lSGJyHJU20KpDwIFMx04m6vwc_Ony7NVhyC2bcAeSVZsqseHjf5xtCRHQLa5lN6RJZ-B_emrD1qgGojr8Ldo29e9JCcHhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== , one of only 29 427 Cobra S/Cs built, and restored by Robin Automotive in Northern California. The celebrated car has won numerous awards throughout its lifetime, including first place in Competition Shelby Popular Vote at SAAC-5, a Gold Award at the 1998 SAAC Convention and Best Cobra and Best Comp Cobra at the 1999 SAAC meet in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
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>     Next is SFM5R538 https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc8WEHqJL1214QElJkL3qZIEbv64PA5V39jGga91USx9BHT8D-ALy70LwmIf6NTMJ3UMZUvfip7gsE4CUDDUBWbQxtXI5ck8vF3pzk7zn14W7O8A6hafPg-o5Kw7JxXuYsJwBrSjtEX5JPBMoKURHgVlgHjBy_Lz1ut38J0DNQl5Eb1Bt2Mdl6hea6LbL6Q7qqqatTcZGnovD57D73WQVy5EvYPUrphnza4vP_rd83EijXjaZV3-dlos6YhMtmBTFTUz_q3roXZxE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== , the winningest 1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback ever. One of only 36 factory competition models ever built, it claimed the SCCA Southeast Divisional Championship under original owner Roger West before making 54 starts with 42 finishes and 32 wins under the tutelage of second owner Charlie Kemp and Crew Chief Pete Hood, including a run of 17 straight victories between 1968 and 1969.
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>     And CSX2495, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc3hfMDMo_7W89le0YFn_U3uOjZzffZMhDer_MQlmV04PCZIqPFlGxIrDQGTtUTVKeq5sztRNrJUjonJo9w4PBBWoa2wKWHOuSRbQz4n6jSMbSyCui4lsnj3HgMcdMXvXxW1bM18VMpp8Lc0hijrzzqvNNG_CqWSerDbEasWaBzEy_G_EDRnzpuKQ4ZCeBdKjkgYvE_1Xbk2guRWsyNKfbqSuGFtciTDLVq-LEIlla1KslLGnxodfoCkjZIp7rXE2HR4K6f6DbDhE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== a 1965 Shelby 289 Cobra Roadster, was once owned by Jim Inglese, founder of the famous Inglese Induction Systems. In fact, Inglese?s foray into the tuning industry was allegedly inspired by this very car. While installing a set of Webers on CSX2495, Inglese ran into so much difficulty trying to get them to function properly, he decided to start an entire company dedicated to the process.
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>     These Shelbys join other star consignments that range from a 1936 Delahaye Type 135 Competition Court Teardrop Coupe, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCce85CxwRpIIu_FdvS4tleszziVEFCborLWq5JcKkYQ149lWh9swdwcHttP-benhauwibvvfHlBqYBZG9vBt6RAAy9stboiKxSMOUOYUfRqCRl2Cqk9PVABq_ZYuEjwD2JirztzxDg6HoS9qz8admf6OnNLfM_yV518oMRWiCA3n9D-yltqir8OhPDxfZjFLAKsaPiN9EAV-1Znp5gewA1vnY3Cmea7NQSdNdMYbmBCCNQfIpVQin9K26e77pZ5xBUZPjHCerH54FGdCutHgxs_w_sPaVD82OqyB1Y_sPHRds=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== a 1965 Ferrari 500 Superfast and a 1972 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchgni0Bb9duk5Db6qmDuovdFzEsA8OqctgvL3bixAcGKdYT_lNv0KwB1T9j8ZtYsRsk4sUWDQ5_ljfzNtAyTEgflFDSgWoDvEAeWWUH2pUenNDFrTwFIovGH4ZlSnHIWVjjuCWu0gyuNFl1fUESOfxkng1yhveNtWWk5AutFzsANSNVbkvzflHk5Y1AzbYg9t7Vij0Coiyq1hwWctJF2mSsbFceab5dJjOBiv5GzKvl_053eoq2zvC_oXidS55F79XfNBvcklJn4=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== to a 2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo and a 2014 Ferrari LaFerrari.
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>     Check out the full docket https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc-Qp3lQ2nwMxw9e-857thgsN97BSChlTDvHCBsS0iWb4RHNoBwZL2GoVSYUMESxlBwCv-6JWtfc3ZDPeFHyPcYayETqAtuELIq9bPPRsR1EmJNafDofbnjlnJiLLVvhw4&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that includes these favorites, and get the just-released digital catalogs for Friday https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcFqHEXRun1s2oo_8XKznxS-2qVbzxxJIWyeEw5P0GGts1I93h-O1SQkKAgBP0Qabgi3yKGz2QddQzKoJ7vcwc4Nbalgifeusv6S7W3i6SFGzFLy-ZrZCDgokL54UgK-z6gU_rTqsyUcAO_Jfra7F8zuzFBEOOXdXg&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== and Saturday. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcHlne7JXP3xMyit4DW7H07n6hh7JAvQfud00ZJv0XJb-WQ5w-EWBEIP0eK_GkKprxC9Y0NX_aPubo8eefdTk_IeQerDZobnuHRI8Cw9r5HY6zJDGWakDtIIoieo-o7pA7wvLkFYtcByKq1-tBaRd9wOMG8fg6RMtc&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcNbCkBi9tubPk43oeupX--C-w_MfvKg9cc0nDm_W0P9UHE_ctMBsD-XthECzzJ8O9qmd2-sFYSO0Z1rPVLmIMAReh75_z-ygxwtHkItBaAmI-HWGEOfRwLaNZIh7vMn9AD_d7H29uDR4xDRHSaVVHXyDvns9dpuLbuBEzPA0dH1c=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1968 Chevrolet Corvette SunRay-DX Racer https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcNbCkBi9tubPk43oeupX--C-w_MfvKg9cc0nDm_W0P9UHE_ctMBsD-XthECzzJ8O9qmd2-sFYSO0Z1rPVLmIMAReh75_z-ygxwtHkItBaAmI-HWGEOfRwLaNZIh7vMn9AD_d7H29uDR4xDRHSaVVHXyDvns9dpuLbuBEzPA0dH1c=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc5tyXodiV26qV8FhAErENvnE96xF6ugoSfhoEkGPIChcT1ntbmRi5XS1IUZ32lwx7HLOvAqiYb4zNnhaljAV1qbKOgrdALAv2FmCzCFSP3JEyzIg8uZ6oPGs353J6yQEtMbtAumGfovuAf3R_-_jkrgFSfRQAamEW&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1966 Ferrari 275 GTB/6C Long Nose https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc5tyXodiV26qV8FhAErENvnE96xF6ugoSfhoEkGPIChcT1ntbmRi5XS1IUZ32lwx7HLOvAqiYb4zNnhaljAV1qbKOgrdALAv2FmCzCFSP3JEyzIg8uZ6oPGs353J6yQEtMbtAumGfovuAf3R_-_jkrgFSfRQAamEW&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcx6bamEg5lqd3MI6ZdwDNbBFqVhsPIB66L2Na1nxjECXvOJMpNOLNCOIbPF5jgjxvrIdZ9NKD0lcT7gAX8XOC_NV-5mTEGh4PEMwXGN4MbROYyY2cwlvIh72lxu2OdYrS8QnuDwEtMLOfehEkQpi0CQIm1GqiiGGu&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1969 Chevrolet Corvette L88 Coupe https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcx6bamEg5lqd3MI6ZdwDNbBFqVhsPIB66L2Na1nxjECXvOJMpNOLNCOIbPF5jgjxvrIdZ9NKD0lcT7gAX8XOC_NV-5mTEGh4PEMwXGN4MbROYyY2cwlvIh72lxu2OdYrS8QnuDwEtMLOfehEkQpi0CQIm1GqiiGGu&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc4p81gY4zxJQH432D0wqy3BTmvCMcxTNXsIt3m6UD-14HlZxEl6VIzMdFHUSXoF0CpV_im0bujkRlHtQhFowSxK33DPn3zPfyntMDnB9SlvZHX5_c7WmVSmu13V8jKvm55ogN0QU45njU4WG6zXxsQA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1952 Ferrari 340 America https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc4p81gY4zxJQH432D0wqy3BTmvCMcxTNXsIt3m6UD-14HlZxEl6VIzMdFHUSXoF0CpV_im0bujkRlHtQhFowSxK33DPn3zPfyntMDnB9SlvZHX5_c7WmVSmu13V8jKvm55ogN0QU45njU4WG6zXxsQA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKv0ckNxkj1alZgcVfKDbHxHcEAQrz6yeOCABd4bLfzF5wRLLqhcI61Qjn_XaBVWd3UdP49foWdkxd0tUO2_F1P9uv8UsRrRpOf0ISidbhNCaDioJMD8LtQE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Museum News: Events and Exhibits https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKi8-Ph-1WSMSN20EFtTmxVfKxiDhtyMoFugqEMZ9tuqcE8F3HQWU-Sm0d6WXlLS1K7Hsqnw9ON0bCEjvEhkkDpPRJfQ4H_RTEdTfNGq1yeCFslEkdGXkgYdVPWuSNqjLRZH6F6bgJIS0X41kotEcv1ZMYBUowmsakSjBbHlgsoXitfDmOfeTWCyPd40zot_KKw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Museum of Modern Art
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>     The Museum of Modern Art?s Automania https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCckRcy4d-bRvnREE7nLUirpIApy3qoPrnCxLa5PlGa-pJvGzHXlmDNWEKfbT_d2bcct5xvAiAryJZVdHqh1a8b98QUz_GAoJrS7E1Xey27v_Tflms7Zr-5Dg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== exhibit has been open for a little over three weeks after the opening was postponed from last year. See cars from an art perspective in the display that runs through Jan. 2. Part of the exhibit is in the museum?s outdoor Sculpture Garden until Oct. 11.
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>     The Antique Automobile Club of America Museum will again host its largest annual event, Night at the Museum, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcWncr8PV9RKVgluXBhTtYNY-sAatNUglfQdFDf1MPDdthCNyME0sLZI6fmSJrMiVBWPU3IzSEK7pkkPK-BV_RsaJwmK-BZinU-OO_WzSwg7FRtxxiqj_USw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== on Oct. 6. The event will honor the museum?s 2021 Automotive Heritage Award honoree Jim Schmidt. The annual fundraiser will coincide with the start of the AACA Hershey Fall Meet https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcpjbksL8oV4ey-Q9yJM42i5yqK9pdtYIi0Rln_q8UNkkORVhh0-J84NGnUDf3jN509bUqo6SEeXJT-wkMzTufd72VPS8epumSWxzIDbjbj264N9oGXSjePg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that runs through Oct. 9.
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>     The Newport Car Museum will host the Mass Cruisers AutoFest https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCctPRBBBBinoJqKGLSHel5BRJZJx_Glj1MDertfdwbltGEbUUawMgxXp2zJT5s4bEfNLQhrjWWFwdLBCeYDlR-oCjBUHcWw-q_gpw864tRBMdMHqN7i_V_Yg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. Aug. 22 with more than 500 vehicles, trophies, vendors, music, food trucks and valve cover racing. Car registrations must be received by Aug. 16.
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>     Weekend Racing Calendar
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>     The Shelby American Automobile Club will present its annual convention ? SAAC-46 ? at Sonoma Raceway starting Friday with a more-than-full slate of activities https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcljZoxfF1mqm-PEd7WLwJCKyj53ffSQTSemDWwwWgRxzT0gmT4kN6JqlOuJzQmlSshdKXK9Vt9nlScMW9k6WQvA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== to make up for the cancellation of last year?s event.
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>     Rocky Mountain Vintage Racing will host its 10th Race Against Kids Cancer this weekend at High Plains Raceway. Entrants https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc8-4Bkd4_vFvqhtqtKAKyzS2aUaWk8FvuGsZsO2dMuJLDX13LuBkxWLMCw0GPkR8ns568YpheJ7fL6kdTiJGPkj8LbY7hoMgFm3zryfwXXrTnnjy_0KIx9pstbtVlvzKZQ8aDl9eQg7m6GOuU8BgCwVH_ioQF-tCWvFjhmPdCBbLmOQsgfWM9Ry7G5qE9qTRAVDsGRPr9lzU=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== will grid in several run groups to add to the club?s nine-year fundraising total of more than $1.2 million for the Morgan Adams Foundation. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKsv_JLRpV0zVurv7xH1JMMhyLlmFf7PT4zGI5R3bXSHlm6sB1ZhvQU7xgY74VhMIIaGxdIyRtF8ZN0Oa6pmsTeiNBwRrzTH-Rl_-jo9B9T3P&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     And this weekend?s 30th Silverstone Classic https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcUB7HM4l9Au0KXTtQD_Nq0BgWDChQcmzt-EqfnoMEqCTQkJWtEDuWzUWv1pKoFTL5J_bLtudJu1jwOEG-Sojqxw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== will be the biggest ever. With races harking back to the golden ages of Formula One, sports cars, GTs, single-seaters and touring cars, several grids now boast no fewer than 61 competition cars of yesteryear, never seen before in England.
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>     On the schedule are special showdowns marking the 60-year anniversaries of two British motoring gems: the Jaguar E-type and Mini Cooper S. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKsbspAKuq_2vguOAfFhbnWcAwxNmqOTitxpIvqbZ8VRNuJaMPwePrLzaCUYxfk_18vjNpXxXfTNB0oQrmVXQhZ8HM5Agp_8zDgQVlJ6u69eFlDWHGxSOTyABzK0LfMJ92Q==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Petersen Offering Aug. 9-13 Road to Pebble Beach Rally https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKgWHGdohH1v9Mt7BkuQcpOVfhKJYToXeEqO8EMVLwJVOc7haD4JDGoIDZpw5Zy_KQJuz1C9J9eZc5IMeLlUR9lKfSpm1AyyRaGaWe72leEn4qAGksvcy_ruJ98o-NboGzzXraHHOekyQmDqY7iQewXM=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Los Angeles, CA ? As the calendar brings us closer to all of the action of Monterey Car Week, the Petersen Museum is offering a five-day road rally that starts at the museum and ends at Pebble Beach with Aug. 13 visits to RetroAuto, a classic car forum and various auctions.
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>     Along the way, rally participants will enjoy tours of private car collections, a visit to the Santa Margarita Ranch Drag Strip, the McCalls Motorworks Kickoff Party, dinners, panel discussions and much more.
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>     Get full information about the rally itinerary and ticket prices. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcF3s7zqaLzqw1wNX0IGU6MPQH8SxlU34JEFWT0lmnDBx90YclGYZTeUWbKVguLjKr-fUcaDWVy8Cw1TU34GgAYnf8YkY-YE4mLYhPJjVftJLWk36Hv6O6hSpX4vYmBBaJvEYq3L5BY-1uvdm2SH0V-U71PFGE99DG_kuO8m2totw9zzB8wP2-d_ZcfXcQlPhOh9Ms5N3wn_A=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKufaoA3SImHAvTS2u7ffNp2xAY_oXjxB4BWUKDIkUldlngMjQN0_iWaDe91ZYH9fvr5dunGCQqf-mZKOnRnRbXxsWKzQUrqfxA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Tickets Now Available for Audrain Concours and Seminars https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKjcVlJjh0ZUBzSiW7fNt84mg4Pyiid2utvfMVAJCpd4jjuBJvJVTMXUgyUAC_QFgRLUQwm4Nk1naihA0lHOLof-mnWfnUwXXzP8g1Wl3pAjIXRIuWbYrgmMgs97rzUloXaiO-Tlj6cxgTuk4KEiMdnsvxhXyyOz-SUidka_LHbkq&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Audrain Concours
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>     Newport, RI ? Leading up to the Oct. 3 Audrain Concours d?Elegance are three days of car-related activities and seminars, including an Oct. 1 interview of racing legend Lyn St. James by Motorsports Hall of Famer Judy Stropus, titled ?A Life on Track.? https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcOSC_1U3SNUjBwOK2CNnMOExfRmjNPBj8FyspHWPaanZylEQ4YXApyQzjVZujVnwETra4sVZOSkrLKm0HY88lacMQUIo5IiPCbiD0NGDukKqO-0cWmcK0JLmH1Fbb2kCNQ_c4CsB2O2g=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     The activities of Newport Auto Week get underway Sept. 30 with a special seminar on car collecting https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcvMwarkJdpPMpIvRFAMYtgu-qLm-iabgf_07l8joFlEDa-vh1tn2hALMZTtzaPKgu92WY7EVTbZwrsFmKR2rMuL7mudMHWev0Dbb-xACZJMNi1aWMqzihiP1ar98uqFr9jd021aOnLp_zErlJU93Ev47v0N2Wf8gE&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that features the East Coast/West Coast experiences of Jay Leno and Audrain Museum CEO Donald Osborne.
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>     Get info and ticket details about the concours, seminars and more. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcZxmqM7Jzf-pfRPCLWHiRLAUzc4X5ZKfN5ATnnGdmrRAfYRVnW6ZjPzQFJSWQqOuugtyKtYymWMJzD92githu9VtgLkARL3VZ&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     And if you haven?t yet watched the ?Best in Class? documentary about the making of the Audrain Concours, it?s now available on YouTube. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKqFXhHdhjOulI2MY-oH1bG7SdLGVkLkt8aWYTBGisWdEONMR2T5bT29Ps1Tbb59Nv9Tu7EQIPY9XZRAe6hjcgrPIEJwxPoyDlUc5BeIdHnbpRaPyvN3j5lXhPgapwnDyAA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     This Week's Videos
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 12:48:52 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 13:48:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Kastner Cup Awarded,
 Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners, Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
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Glad they used the group shot. V for victory!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 9:57 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> It's good to see this prominent announcement and article in my email this
> morning and thought I should share it.
> Cheers,
> Dave H.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Vintage Motorsport Magazine <info at vintagemotorsport.com>
> To: dlhogye at comcast.net
> Date: 07/29/2021 7:05 AM
> Subject: Kastner Cup Awarded, Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners,
> Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
>
>
> Vintage Motorsport eNews
>
> 07.29.2021 | Editors: Scott and Cyndi Paceley
>
> View in Browser www.vintagemotorsport.com
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc0MdiLxOaY0wcnIW_ozpnN4DNBrw1Xfz4mnSg6PbE_AQ3bMgLe-X4-bitU80u4UlKOUYs0paCZTlD4wrgBAANhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Kastner Cup Goes to Jeff Quick
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKgWHGdohH1v9Mt7BkuQcpOVfhKJYToXeEqO8EMVLwJVOc7haD4JDGoIDZpw5Zy_KQJuz1C9J9eZc5IMeLlUR9lKfSpm1AyyRaGaWe72leEn4qAGksvcy_ruJ98o-NboGzzXraHHOekyQmDqY7iQewXM=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> 2021 Kastner Cup awardee Jeff Quick (front) with his Triumph mates. Photo:
> North American Triumphs
>
> Portland, OR -- Last Saturday?s 19th Kastner Cup vintage race at Portland
> International Raceway -- the first without its co-founder and namesake
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKq5NtTZ8CW0LhXk2zWS9DbWbjBmlCT-kllfvGLTF5GqeZl1HTpKoiTfmf1kHE2g9ECl93bVZik35vtHD-_3bpwAkIEilZ-SgvxagVg-wSu1AWY9FN0VkTzTjAU1CpnHRt-EaA2wirg_m8pdvuxLLfhmZVgrw8uLcqNQx9_3grdGC&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> who passed away in April ? was a fitting tribute to the late R.W. ?Kas?
> Kastner.
>
> Read more at VintageMotorsport.com
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcK6dRyIsmCRFhiI7SAxvUCYGeSpIYCy_GHYzXMg4GicVqkxZAua2IM18uDidyqjmljfx2gyzpUFkq-sfZulCOMCcu7JIZEbVBxIYMkvocDTyZ66p5jVVMk3pVGDqnlceA_ZUiTr1swpSYOINzkfMaRg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Over 200 Cars Already Confirmed for Woodward Dream Show
>
> Photo: Woodward Dream Show
>
> Pontiac, MI ? Car entries are still being accepted
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc69ZBfuBE8W4_VGz-LnTP4wpVESzNcdobf2LD5DeSm8fGnIVieG76_QmSvcWFmiCJDzLPoQMZ8rz7PVL4raN-wACM1yPWTG5wK3cyV4GwkIbVTU3HcKefmw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> for the Aug. 20 Woodward Dream Show at the M1 Concourse, and organizers
> hope to generously exceed the current roster of 200-plus cars.
>
> Read the full story, including videos with two car owners, on
> VintageMotorsport.com
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcWNdrNQA2FKHtXwmbgtr7XbkKHEIakHeYuuORLpR2zUHKWSJRe8bohZrg1n89ttzvOJlMa2a9YQKnq-g83GaHXrYAxLKvr_dW2RH_IE4bi4d1KPxiZaP-1klMXfJcFXr4qifSpjClcJ_qELKbFK2bmGZcAu_C1ASEQ5uTwFITAOo=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>.
>
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKpgWsJkGlYJBCpkV76-jAJWdLkvy-DNxFdzPBvikmT57ZKWdJAk8owFZ4fIhFJXDg-P0jpOu-8ZRPW8yevvmz94P_gcHvOlQLY2b9H8Su5avp64AO3RtziSV_N7UZ2kpGUv8-umTv3L0QXX2YxNp_4h1_IQnPu_vA2k2jm1Mi4tSKntw9aQS9gzPM-8aJgxsQRrL2DNOQ3YsjLrGZKJ0UeUoIerW03DWjA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> ICYMI: Sept. 23 RRDC Dinner Will Fete Rick Mears
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Photo: Scott LePage/Motorsport Images
>
> RACER colleague Marshall Pruett brings the good news that the Road Racing
> Drivers Club dinner, an annual event that has been part of the Long Beach
> Grand Prix weekend for more than a decade, is returning. This year?s
> honoree is Rick Mears.
>
> Read the full story on VintageMotorsport.com.
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcLzqGkDy_NoQxd4PVQWoFDPDxUqpbz2WFG9hnFEaU8bxxTTzznOutg7IYLbyUy1hV6h39GPv95V-Tl9xJKQ7LqOcgtDKJZXeDT-u0FYH_I7D1hW5sMFAmE8xbcIodlSmGYyGzxKbqu7sPNrSbzcyRAIUhhF2YjbZaxa081PuYJmNkyysVf1Yykg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Revolant? Will Offer Jim Clark Retrospective
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> The event will offer an upclose look at the Lotus Type 34 . Photo:
> Bonhams Auctions
>
> Carmel, IN ? Revolant?, part of the Aug. 27-29 Artomobilia weekend
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcErcD8clyvhNO_h5ZzbOdKIjGQfa28MN8o5a8pKQrwQA4wDlZqT71ISqqfQBzX-umiSM8a0QOOfDPnqYY-zjgUpfMHgSRJD7v7rpK2EG3B4Q=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> that features the Shift Road Rally, Fuelicious, Artomobilia and more, will
> donate 100% of ticketed revenue to programming support for the Indianapolis
> Motor Speedway Museum.
>
> Set for Aug. 29, the idea behind Revolant? is the celebration of
> revolutionary automotive machinery, their visionary designers and the
> courageous drivers that have influenced road and race cars. What better
> place to do that than near the Racing Capital of the World?
>
> An amazing collection of cars in a variety of featured and specialty
> classes
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc7td3tqcgUz764NXBUykkf1hMsw6hdZ5VdDLJ8Q6RaAKY2lje-c2pedL1737xIMx8zWlyUEXXjuNeQRlWSbp7Ow9AXKp_j6tVdwW5zWYhhX4=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> ? including three eras of Indianapolis pace cars -- will be displayed on
> the grounds of the Bridgewater Golf Club
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcnT35mh4u4HyFQIfoeOCFs7f9Qafne4z9fzioBhxn0cDk2fdZAqY0pPDRpcCGQyZGoGXwRZhYypKvCe0Fx4HCSVTT8ox69LsG&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> in Carmel, Indiana. Among the highlights will be the event?s retrospective
> on Jim Clark and the Lotus Type 34, showing how the superior handling of a
> lightweight, rear-engine chassis redefined performance on the track.
>
> Artomobilia had announced in August 2019 that Revolant? would make its
> event debut in 2020, but the entire weekend was canceled. Purchase VIP or
> regular guest tickets.
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcY8eyCopwXTI1zS2WbgWU_O9PW9ZZ6efOHRHMDW-98cr3QJjwCZkcQ8ue7DXUGVnpTlOk5WJhhfqzXLGAUchc6UbKrYP5p0oGgq_LFb1ha4U=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> FYI, the Aug. 28 Artomobilia
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcAsKcTpCeFfy6t-zWHDnaCAH8hRTgOvIKX5ScQPaUNXk0_nlFuGgYPpQCejK3xcmnmP2lWvFYaiDXiDFhJi0Oq-pb3KxdRwvXN-nlFwvTcg8=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> event in the Carmel Arts & Design District now includes car exhibits open
> to BMW, Lotus and Porsche.
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcSe-JHLY4m_E_RWMXxwvRorqKsMsk4yCBgM3emAa6QWq-BcFzx64rYdA4-TdzL-shlDH7abbIDb3dzIVt1YWLBGqxa7Y4yX9c&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Monterey Momentum: Mecum Auction Preview
>
> Walworth, WI ? Among the newest additions to Mecum?s 600-car lineup for
> its Aug. 12-14 Daytime Auction at the Hyatt Regency Monterey Hotel and Spa
> is a group of three Shelby American cars.
>
> First is a 1967 Shelby 427 ?Semi Competition? Cobra
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchf4XezBwh8W1tWI7F5Li2iOhdmo7Eh7qqTLk-pdpKKt9yZ4IjjSwyyoNFWBt7otOoXpywEswwDYMqNO51RSVb0zYtoLyI1tAePNpGcUOj2l2Sr5huk9uftgBzm72BouQiu1aiwjoXhPtBOxf5B14lLf_xvHOmQ97beUsANPi-6yRDXgJ48vazE7-lSGJyHJU20KpDwIFMx04m6vwc_Ony7NVhyC2bcAeSVZsqseHjf5xtCRHQLa5lN6RJZ-B_emrD1qgGojr8Ldo29e9JCcHhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>,
> one of only 29 427 Cobra S/Cs built, and restored by Robin Automotive in
> Northern California. The celebrated car has won numerous awards throughout
> its lifetime, including first place in Competition Shelby Popular Vote at
> SAAC-5, a Gold Award at the 1998 SAAC Convention and Best Cobra and Best
> Comp Cobra at the 1999 SAAC meet in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
>
> Next is SFM5R538
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc8WEHqJL1214QElJkL3qZIEbv64PA5V39jGga91USx9BHT8D-ALy70LwmIf6NTMJ3UMZUvfip7gsE4CUDDUBWbQxtXI5ck8vF3pzk7zn14W7O8A6hafPg-o5Kw7JxXuYsJwBrSjtEX5JPBMoKURHgVlgHjBy_Lz1ut38J0DNQl5Eb1Bt2Mdl6hea6LbL6Q7qqqatTcZGnovD57D73WQVy5EvYPUrphnza4vP_rd83EijXjaZV3-dlos6YhMtmBTFTUz_q3roXZxE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>,
> the winningest 1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback ever. One of only 36 factory
> competition models ever built, it claimed the SCCA Southeast Divisional
> Championship under original owner Roger West before making 54 starts with
> 42 finishes and 32 wins under the tutelage of second owner Charlie Kemp and
> Crew Chief Pete Hood, including a run of 17 straight victories between 1968
> and 1969.
>
> And CSX2495,
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc3hfMDMo_7W89le0YFn_U3uOjZzffZMhDer_MQlmV04PCZIqPFlGxIrDQGTtUTVKeq5sztRNrJUjonJo9w4PBBWoa2wKWHOuSRbQz4n6jSMbSyCui4lsnj3HgMcdMXvXxW1bM18VMpp8Lc0hijrzzqvNNG_CqWSerDbEasWaBzEy_G_EDRnzpuKQ4ZCeBdKjkgYvE_1Xbk2guRWsyNKfbqSuGFtciTDLVq-LEIlla1KslLGnxodfoCkjZIp7rXE2HR4K6f6DbDhE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> a 1965 Shelby 289 Cobra Roadster, was once owned by Jim Inglese, founder of
> the famous Inglese Induction Systems. In fact, Inglese?s foray into the
> tuning industry was allegedly inspired by this very car. While installing a
> set of Webers on CSX2495, Inglese ran into so much difficulty trying to get
> them to function properly, he decided to start an entire company dedicated
> to the process.
>
> These Shelbys join other star consignments that range from a 1936
> Delahaye Type 135 Competition Court Teardrop Coupe,
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCce85CxwRpIIu_FdvS4tleszziVEFCborLWq5JcKkYQ149lWh9swdwcHttP-benhauwibvvfHlBqYBZG9vBt6RAAy9stboiKxSMOUOYUfRqCRl2Cqk9PVABq_ZYuEjwD2JirztzxDg6HoS9qz8admf6OnNLfM_yV518oMRWiCA3n9D-yltqir8OhPDxfZjFLAKsaPiN9EAV-1Znp5gewA1vnY3Cmea7NQSdNdMYbmBCCNQfIpVQin9K26e77pZ5xBUZPjHCerH54FGdCutHgxs_w_sPaVD82OqyB1Y_sPHRds=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> a 1965 Ferrari 500 Superfast and a 1972 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona,
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchgni0Bb9duk5Db6qmDuovdFzEsA8OqctgvL3bixAcGKdYT_lNv0KwB1T9j8ZtYsRsk4sUWDQ5_ljfzNtAyTEgflFDSgWoDvEAeWWUH2pUenNDFrTwFIovGH4ZlSnHIWVjjuCWu0gyuNFl1fUESOfxkng1yhveNtWWk5AutFzsANSNVbkvzflHk5Y1AzbYg9t7Vij0Coiyq1hwWctJF2mSsbFceab5dJjOBiv5GzKvl_053eoq2zvC_oXidS55F79XfNBvcklJn4=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> to a 2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo and a 2014 Ferrari LaFerrari.
>
> Check out the full docket
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc-Qp3lQ2nwMxw9e-857thgsN97BSChlTDvHCBsS0iWb4RHNoBwZL2GoVSYUMESxlBwCv-6JWtfc3ZDPeFHyPcYayETqAtuELIq9bPPRsR1EmJNafDofbnjlnJiLLVvhw4&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> that includes these favorites, and get the just-released digital catalogs
> for Friday
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcFqHEXRun1s2oo_8XKznxS-2qVbzxxJIWyeEw5P0GGts1I93h-O1SQkKAgBP0Qabgi3yKGz2QddQzKoJ7vcwc4Nbalgifeusv6S7W3i6SFGzFLy-ZrZCDgokL54UgK-z6gU_rTqsyUcAO_Jfra7F8zuzFBEOOXdXg&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> and Saturday.
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcHlne7JXP3xMyit4DW7H07n6hh7JAvQfud00ZJv0XJb-WQ5w-EWBEIP0eK_GkKprxC9Y0NX_aPubo8eefdTk_IeQerDZobnuHRI8Cw9r5HY6zJDGWakDtIIoieo-o7pA7wvLkFYtcByKq1-tBaRd9wOMG8fg6RMtc&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 16:03:54 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:03:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Anyone have contact info for Tom Dick.
Message-ID: <1B4C2A47-1C7B-41FC-8E70-71ECDB10A376@gmail.com>

This is the guy who rolled his TR4 at Schenely Park.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 31 07:34:02 2021
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:34:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Search for TR4 CT7135L
References: <2077144210.867067.1627738442586.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2077144210.867067.1627738442586@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Amici,
I?ve had a gentleman, Ed Paul, reach out to me with an interesting story about the grill in my car; and he has shared his search for an old TR4 race car. ?Do any of you know what has become of the 4 he mentions in the blurb below? ?I don?t recognize the names, but also BD (before Dave).?Let me know if you happen to, and I?ll share the information. ?(He has also posted on FB in a couple places).Thanks!Dave Gott
Message from Ed:
?Hi David,?Saw you race car photos and I remember giving a new front grille to the previous owner for that car. My dad worked in a dealership that stop selling Triumphs and when cleaning out the shop prior to a move gave me the grille and told me to give it to someone or throw it out. Still looks go.?I am wondering if you might know of the car listed below.I am looking for a Triumph TR-4 and the serial number is CT 7135L; engine number CT7319E. The car is was a 1962 TR-4 that was built into a race car by Dave Hackett in 1963. The raced in the Northeast of the United States and then sold to James Grob of Fort Lee, New Jersey in October 1967. I would love to find if this car still exists and if it does where is it now.Ed Paul?

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From ponobill at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 18:54:36 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 17:54:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jul  1 06:49:14 2021
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2021 08:49:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Does anybody remember Cal Cams from Oakland, CA?
Message-ID: <16a33b54ce71bc9e3bcce41b8a04d306@tr4racer.com>

A club member bought a TR4 street car project from California and the 
camshaft in the pile of bits is stamped "Cal Cam 260". Not knowing any 
better, he installed it as a stock cam and is now a little disappointed 
by the lumpy idle. My first impression is assuming 260 implies the 
duration of the grind, 260 is really mild (like stock!) and should not 
be all that lumpy.

Does anybody have an old catalogue from Cal Cam? Any specs would be 
helpful. A cam card for their 260 grind would be really helpful!

Cheers



From cartravel at pobox.com  Thu Jul  1 09:10:47 2021
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 10:10:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Does anybody remember Cal Cams from Oakland, CA?
In-Reply-To: <16a33b54ce71bc9e3bcce41b8a04d306@tr4racer.com>
References: <16a33b54ce71bc9e3bcce41b8a04d306@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <665c1584-75bb-baf0-4b42-a00697ce2a61@pobox.com>

Why not measure it to see what you've got? The 260 could be an 0.050 
number. See https://www.tildentechnologies.com/Cams/Tips_Takes.html
 ?- Larry


On 7/1/2021 7:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote:
> A club member bought a TR4 street car project from California and the 
> camshaft in the pile of bits is stamped "Cal Cam 260". Not knowing any 
> better, he installed it as a stock cam and is now a little 
> disappointed by the lumpy idle. My first impression is assuming 260 
> implies the duration of the grind, 260 is really mild (like stock!) 
> and should not be all that lumpy.
>
> Does anybody have an old catalogue from Cal Cam? Any specs would be 
> helpful. A cam card for their 260 grind would be really helpful!
>
> Cheers
>
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  1 19:15:03 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 01:15:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre
References: <686204559.829982.1625188503409.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
Mark and a couple of his buddies have acquired the former Tony Martin TR6. This car held records at several tracks in the NE in E Prod and GT3. The car has been returned to vintage appearance and the trio is currently getting a feel for the car at SCCA Track Night in America events.
Mark - feel free to introduce yourself and the others in the team or just watch the list for a while to get a feel for the group.
I will add that the car had a setback last night at Palmer, but I know the FOT can help this team get back on the horse.

Regards,Bob Lang
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu Jul  1 19:19:22 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 01:19:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre
In-Reply-To: <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <686204559.829982.1625188503409.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1742993386.503930.1625188762655@mail.yahoo.com>

Beautiful Car. ?I came close to buying it a few years ago. ?Glad to hear that Mark is bringing it back!
SECOND!
Phil Gott


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>; msanterre14 at gmail.com <msanterre14 at gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 1, 2021 9:16 pm
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre

Hi,
Mark and a couple of his buddies have acquired the former Tony Martin TR6. This car held records at several tracks in the NE in E Prod and GT3. The car has been returned to vintage appearance and the trio is currently getting a feel for the car at SCCA Track Night in America events.
Mark - feel free to introduce yourself and the others in the team or just watch the list for a while to get a feel for the group.
I will add that the car had a setback last night at Palmer, but I know the FOT can help this team get back on the horse.

Regards,Bob Lang
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  1 20:18:18 2021
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 02:18:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre
In-Reply-To: <1742993386.503930.1625188762655@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <686204559.829982.1625188503409.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1742993386.503930.1625188762655@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1592677548.1196735.1625192298986@mail.yahoo.com>

Welcome, Mark! Always happy to see another TR6 guy! My wife races hers in the Midwest. Give a shout if you end up in Elkhart Lake!
Jake

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Fri Jul  2 03:32:10 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:32:10 +1000
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
Message-ID: <CA+UW8b2YoLPRsnMc4wfwam3cpEg+nmUqq8108-KNvCZkgzrs0A@mail.gmail.com>

could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on
front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering
changes to increase the static caster?

The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links
used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a
set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones .

I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for
many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with
"modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision.

Any comments gladly accepted

thanks

Terry
Australia
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul  2 07:41:03 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:41:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] windscreen
Message-ID: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>

I'm looking for a small windscreen for my open cockpit TR6. The type 
that would be mounted on the body? Any links to a company that makes or 
sells them would be appreciated. I would also consider a used one in 
good condition.
Thanks,
Mike Kurtz


From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 09:08:44 2021
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 15:08:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] windscreen
In-Reply-To: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
References: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <303263745.1069721.1625238524641@mail.yahoo.com>

 If you want a full-width windscreen check with Ted @ TSI, he can likely help.
Glen Efinger
 
 
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To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 2, 2021 9:41 am
Subject: [Fot] windscreen

I'm looking for a small windscreen for my open cockpit TR6. The type 
that would be mounted on the body? Any links to a company that makes or 
sells them would be appreciated. I would also consider a used one in 
good condition.
Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 11:22:45 2021
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 17:22:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] windscreen
In-Reply-To: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
References: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <208456558.4726941.1625246565764@mail.yahoo.com>

 I made one for my TR3 from a helmet visor.? Made a few aluminum brackets to attach it.? JoeB
    On Friday, July 2, 2021, 09:42:00 AM EDT, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I'm looking for a small windscreen for my open cockpit TR6. The type 
that would be mounted on the body? Any links to a company that makes or 
sells them would be appreciated. I would also consider a used one in 
good condition.
Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:10:15 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 02:10:15 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic
Message-ID: <001f01d76f9f$cd646170$682d2450$@gmail.com>

After this long break from this Covid shit I took the car to Spa.

 

The races went well, with minor problems (dirt in carbs).

Main problem was me?as driver. I?ve lost some speed. I hope I find the seconds missing one day:

 

https://youtu.be/9ix_2N7elxk

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 18:24:45 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 00:24:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic
In-Reply-To: <001f01d76f9f$cd646170$682d2450$@gmail.com>
References: <001f01d76f9f$cd646170$682d2450$@gmail.com>
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Very nice!You dispatched that Corvette handily!


-----Original Message-----
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To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, Jul 2, 2021 8:11 pm
Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic

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After this long break from this Covid shit I took the car to Spa.

 ?

The races went well, with minor problems (dirt in carbs).

Main problem was me?as driver. I?ve lost some speed. I hope I find the seconds missing one day:

 ?

https://youtu.be/9ix_2N7elxk

 ?

Cheers

Chris

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From msanterre14 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 20:02:56 2021
From: msanterre14 at gmail.com (Mark Santerre)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 22:02:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New member
Message-ID: <CANRE_fLaq4BgtB66hUwp3osMC3h-jCgr0-fXVDhE3krhJV+a0A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi my name is Mark and I was nominated to the group by Bob Lang
Thank you Bob and all the members who welcomed me.
As Bob said I am one of three guys who now own the 70 TR6 that belonged to
Tony Martin.
Bob had mentioned we suffered a set back wed at Palmer 1-1/4 lap into TNiA
the right front spindle sheared off at the seal boss.
 The front is mostly all custom parts.
Spindles were oversize made by Group 44 ,
Hubs are custom with Jaguar rotors,and 4 piston JRZ on one side Sierra on
the other
The JRZ mounting ears were snapped off when axle let go.
We have a spare spindle but are having trouble  finding a caliper.
Would anyone have an idea where I could possibly  find one.

Mark
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Mon Jul  5 21:56:16 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 03:56:16 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
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________________________________
From: Henry A. Morrison
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
Subject: Z car drums

Happy 4th Triumph lovers,

Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.

The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.

Henry Morrison
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sun Jul  4 21:40:49 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 22:40:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup and others
Message-ID: <59936.1625456449@mitchelplumbing.com>

I somehow have been dropped from the mailing list and have been trying to get back on, unsuccessfully.
I'd like to at the least have some information concerning the Kas cup and possibly other items.
can someone forward me info or try to get me reinstaed on the mailing list.
And yes I have tried to do it my self with no luck.
thanks,
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44


From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Tue Jul  6 09:29:53 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 10:29:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
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You can have them re-lined.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> From: Henry A. Morrison
> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
> To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
> Subject: Z car drums
>  
> Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
> 
> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
> 
> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
> 
> Henry Morrison 
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Tue Jul  6 09:38:29 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 08:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
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Hello Henry,
Centric is the company that made the drums on my TR.  I remember they had both iron and aluminum and it was a little difficult confirming the correct aluminum unit part number.  I know I have the part number recorded.  I'll try getting that for you.  Hopefully they are still available.  If you do find them, be sure to have them turned for truing before using them and after the modifications to fit your Triumph.
Dave H. 

>     On 07/05/2021 8:56 PM Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>      
>      
>      
>      
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Henry A. Morrison
>     Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
>     To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
>     Subject: Z car drums
>      
>     Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
>      
>     Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
>      
>     The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
>      
>     Henry Morrison 
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 10:07:14 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 16:07:14 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Z car drums
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB758356949075941C80C7905E901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Thank you for all the responses for the Z car Drums.  I ordered some from the "Z Store" and hope to have them installed in time for the Cup!  My old ones are starting to get cracks around the bolt holes which probably isn't a big deal considering how well the drums are currently being lubricated.  I suppose my next topic will be separating axles, or buying the new Ford setup.......................

Looking forward to Portland, and still neck deep in Triumph projects.

Henry Morrison, Salt Lake City
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue Jul  6 10:47:08 2021
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 12:47:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <FC054F22-4A80-4EA4-BF27-0FC81029820C@wi.rr.com>
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Allen,

Who relines the z drums?  I have two sets that I?d like to have lined. 

Thanks I?m advance
Todd



> On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?You can have them re-lined.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> From: Henry A. Morrison
>> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
>> To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
>> Subject: Z car drums
>>  
>> Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
>> 
>> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
>> 
>> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
>> 
>> Henry Morrison 
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 13:57:33 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 19:57:33 +0000
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.

Cheers,

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From emanteno at comcast.net  Tue Jul  6 14:08:45 2021
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 15:08:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
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Henry,

I really think that since your car will be more balanced front to rear due
to those heavy brake drums, you are now the odds
on favorite to win the Kastner Cup. Congratulations, and see you in
Portland.

Irv Korey

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 2:58 PM Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they
> don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Henry Morrison
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 14:31:54 2021
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:31:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
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 Aha! This must be why Karen didn't set a new lap record at RA... Darn cast iron!

Jake
    On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 02:57:41 PM CDT, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.??
Cheers,?
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 14:53:47 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 13:53:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
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I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!  

Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.  
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Henry Morrison
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Jul  6 15:22:46 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 23:22:46 +0200
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
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I still run on the standard drums.

They do well on my car.

So far I had no need for alfin drums.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Henry A. Morrison via
Fot
Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juli 2021 21:58
An: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup, It will be because of my
heavy steel brake drums!

 

Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they
don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.  

 

Cheers, 

 

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Tue Jul  6 17:06:50 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 09:06:50 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <FC054F22-4A80-4EA4-BF27-0FC81029820C@wi.rr.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75836F5D87E3C5DC83723F29901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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i have several sets , but shipping from Oz  to USA will be prohibitive.

ive not had any troubles machining them and using slightly oversized linings

Ive never considered Alans idea of fitting anew cast iron inner.

Terry



On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:30 AM Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> You can have them re-lined.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Henry A. Morrison
> *Sent:* Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
> *To:* FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
> *Subject:* Z car drums
>
> Happy 4th Triumph lovers,
>
> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to
> be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.
>
> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to
> select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.
>
> Henry Morrison
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 17:09:21 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 23:09:21 +0000
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>,
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I am going to the shed to dig out some cast iron drums just to regain Chuck's respect.  The money I save will be reinvested in installing the heater back in the TR, just in case I need to defrost my Brooklands screen.  Or in more wire wheels........

One or the other.

Henry

________________________________
From: Chuck Gee <chasgee22 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 2:53 PM
To: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup, It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!

I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!

Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.

Cheers,

Henry Morrison
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 20:30:54 2021
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:30:54 -0600
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>
References: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1DD440C1-BD67-4623-801C-C8D73259992F@yahoo.com>

Say what you may about Henry but he schooled us New Mexicans (SWMS) well.
After first race I won in the Plum Pi, Earl and Greg Miller (Sprite racers) walked by as I was changing tires. Did I get a ?congrats?? No!
Greg pointed out my ?illegal? cross-drilled rotors? ?Just ask Henry? he said. Took them off before the next race and they?re probably still on the shelf. How Henry has let Walt get away I don?t know. But I suspect a pay-off!
Cheers Henry? and all,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!  
> 
> Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuck Gee
> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.  
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> 
>> Henry Morrison
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 21:27:46 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 03:27:46 +0000
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <1DD440C1-BD67-4623-801C-C8D73259992F@yahoo.com>
References: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>,
 <1DD440C1-BD67-4623-801C-C8D73259992F@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB7583479A1E15E5C992DED1B9901A9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

LOL!!!!

Cheers, Henry

________________________________
From: Greg Hilyer <lunkercars at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 8:30 PM
To: Chuck Gee <chasgee22 at gmail.com>
Cc: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>; fot <FOT at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup, It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!

Say what you may about Henry but he schooled us New Mexicans (SWMS) well.
After first race I won in the Plum Pi, Earl and Greg Miller (Sprite racers) walked by as I was changing tires. Did I get a ?congrats?? No!
Greg pointed out my ?illegal? cross-drilled rotors? ?Just ask Henry? he said. Took them off before the next race and they?re probably still on the shelf. How Henry has let Walt get away I don?t know. But I suspect a pay-off!
Cheers Henry? and all,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

On Jul 6, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!

Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.

Cheers,

Henry Morrison
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From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Wed Jul  7 19:28:46 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 20:28:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
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Message-ID: <04CB4863-C309-4022-A761-566809BC2B6B@wi.rr.com>

J&G - the drum brake experts. McHenry, Illinois
815. 276. 2578

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Enquiries Road & Track <enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au> wrote:
> 
> ?
> i have several sets , but shipping from Oz  to USA will be prohibitive. 
> 
> ive not had any troubles machining them and using slightly oversized linings
> 
> Ive never considered Alans idea of fitting anew cast iron inner.
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:30 AM Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> You can have them re-lined.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> From: Henry A. Morrison
>>> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
>>> To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
>>> Subject: Z car drums
>>>  
>>> Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
>>> 
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul  9 15:26:26 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:26:26 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
Message-ID: <fd1165ca-05f2-0bf9-7f20-351e4b0429be@ptd.net>

For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. 
If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire 
pressure to begin with?

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 TR6


From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Jul  9 15:37:43 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:37:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.  I called Toyo tech a while back, and they told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was the R888s - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now).  I?ve found that the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot.  Varies by corner- on most tracks I start my left front  a little lower because it gets the biggest workout, right rear higher. 

BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers, these like more camber.  I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and rear.  Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.  Be interesting to see what the Tr6 drivers say.


On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire pressure to begin with?

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 TR6
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jul  9 15:49:08 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:49:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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TR-4, 205-55/16's - I run 26 psi cold front, 24 psi cold rear. Will be 
mid 30's hot.? More than about 26 cold and they start to get skatey.? If 
I run more rear pressure I get understeer, but moving the rear up or 
down by a PSI makes a significant difference.? With IRS you'll likely 
have them closer to each other in pressure.

Love those tires.? Switched to them when Yokohama stopped making the 
205-60/15 A048's.

Cheers, Tony Drews

On 7/9/2021 4:37 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
> I run 205-60/13s on the GT6. ?I called Toyo tech a while back, and 
> they told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was 
> the R888s - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now). 
> ?I?ve found that the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot. 
> ?Varies by corner- on most tracks I start my left front ?a little 
> lower because it gets the biggest workout, right rear higher.
>
> BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers, 
> these like more camber. ?I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and 
> rear. ?Actually closer to 3 on the fronts. ?Be interesting to see what 
> the Tr6 drivers say.
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot 
> <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
> For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. 
> If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire 
> pressure to begin with?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 TR6
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 15:51:43 2021
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:51:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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Same here for Hoosiers, if I have the help I'll have them check the
pressures immediately off the track, maybe at black flag station, go around
the car and set to the desired hot, then they are preset for next session.
BTW, you might check those tires will be legal, my recollection is 60
series is as fat as we can go in Vintage

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:37 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.  I called Toyo tech a while back, and they
> told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was the R888s
> - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now).  I?ve found that
> the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot.  Varies by corner- on most
> tracks I start my left front  a little lower because it gets the biggest
> workout, right rear higher.
>
> BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers, these
> like more camber.  I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and rear.
> Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.  Be interesting to see what the Tr6
> drivers say.
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. If
> anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire pressure
> to begin with?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 TR6
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jul  9 16:58:31 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:58:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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They are not entirely legal, (should be 15" 60 series).? The only 
remaining 15" 60 series tire I can run is the Hoosier Speedster at $1000 
per set and last me 1.5 race weekends.? Economics dictate that I "cheat" 
on this one.

- Tony

On 7/9/2021 4:51 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote:
> Same here for Hoosiers, if I have the help I'll have them check the 
> pressures immediately off the track, maybe at black flag station, go 
> around the car and set to the desired hot, then they are preset for 
> next session.
> BTW, you might check those tires will be legal, my recollection is 60 
> series is as fat as we can go in Vintage
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:37 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.? I called Toyo tech a while back, and
>     they told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this
>     was the R888s - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run
>     now).? I?ve found that the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to
>     hot.? Varies by corner- on most tracks I start my left front ?a
>     little lower because it gets the biggest workout, right rear higher.
>
>     BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s
>     Hoosiers, these like more camber.? I have about 2.5 degrees
>     negative front and rear.? Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.? Be
>     interesting to see what the Tr6 drivers say.
>
>
>     On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot
>     <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15
>     tires. If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good
>     (cold) tire pressure to begin with?
>
>     Thanks,
>     Mike Kurtz
>     1970 TR6
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 17:47:23 2021
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 19:47:23 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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Yikes $1000, I think the reason it came up for me was because I had 50's on
the car when I went to request a log book. That's ok, the 60's barely fit
the GT6

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:58 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> They are not entirely legal, (should be 15" 60 series).  The only
> remaining 15" 60 series tire I can run is the Hoosier Speedster at $1000
> per set and last me 1.5 race weekends.  Economics dictate that I "cheat" on
> this one.
>
> - Tony
> On 7/9/2021 4:51 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote:
>
> Same here for Hoosiers, if I have the help I'll have them check the
> pressures immediately off the track, maybe at black flag station, go around
> the car and set to the desired hot, then they are preset for next session.
> BTW, you might check those tires will be legal, my recollection is 60
> series is as fat as we can go in Vintage
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:37 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.  I called Toyo tech a while back, and they
>> told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was the R888s
>> - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now).  I?ve found that
>> the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot.  Varies by corner- on most
>> tracks I start my left front  a little lower because it gets the biggest
>> workout, right rear higher.
>>
>> BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers,
>> these like more camber.  I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and rear.
>> Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.  Be interesting to see what the Tr6
>> drivers say.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. If
>> anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire pressure
>> to begin with?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike Kurtz
>> 1970 TR6
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Sat Jul 10 06:33:05 2021
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 12:33:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
Message-ID: <BL0PR04MB45295364CA226EE81A2347E2B4179@BL0PR04MB4529.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don't think it is COVID related.

The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?

Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

Mike & Becky Moore
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From tlizzard at msn.com  Sat Jul 10 07:02:47 2021
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:02:47 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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I?ve noticed that non resistor NGKs have been replaced by the resistor type of the same heat range.  I?ve been putting them in street cars for a while now with no apparent issues on my customer?s cars.  Will they affect any changes on a race application?  Honestly I?m not sure, but most electronic ignitions require some kind of resistance in the plug wires, so I can?t see that they would hurt anything.  I?m certainly not going to stop using NGKs, they are the best.

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Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs

I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.

The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?

Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

Mike & Becky Moore
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Sat Jul 10 07:08:06 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:08:06 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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You might try a motorcycle supply house like Cycle Gear for non-resistor options.

Lee

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Sparkplugs


I?ve noticed that non resistor NGKs have been replaced by the resistor type of the same heat range.  I?ve been putting them in street cars for a while now with no apparent issues on my customer?s cars.  Will they affect any changes on a race application?  Honestly I?m not sure, but most electronic ignitions require some kind of resistance in the plug wires, so I can?t see that they would hurt anything.  I?m certainly not going to stop using NGKs, they are the best.



Terry Stetler



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From: Michael Moore via Fot<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 8:33 AM
To: Amici Triumphi<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs



I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.



The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?



Thanks, Mike



62 TR4, Race car

63 TR4, Street car



Mike & Becky Moore

6050 Ruhl Road, Fairview, PA 16415

814-323-0698

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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 07:45:38 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:45:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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 My applications are almost all TR6, so your part numbers may be slightly different...

This happened (the plugs became unavailable) with the NGK 6 heat-range plugs last year.
The only difference I noticed with the NGK BPR6ES and the BP6ES was no static on AM radio.
The NGK BPR7ES should work fine on your race car.
FWIW, I recently ordered 7's from Summit Racing and they "back ordered". This happened last year with the 6's, so I expect a notice from Summit to the effect that the BP7ES is NLA and they'll cancel the order.
It's not Covid - it's manufacturers dumping product lines that have low volume. That and "consolidation". They look at storing products and long inventory turns and jettison the slow moving products.
Regards,Bob Lang



    On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 8:33:27 AM EDT, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  
I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.
 
 ?
 
The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?
 
 ?
 
Thanks, Mike
 
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 10 07:48:13 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:48:13 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday.

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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 08:07:47 2021
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 14:07:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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 I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars.?
    On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday.?
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Jul 10 08:27:48 2021
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 10:27:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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I shim mine to meet the cam maker?s requirements, and usually find there is a range of a few shims within which they are all set the same.  I also find that after two seasons the springs have lost about 30 lb seat pressure.  I routinely rev my GT6 to 7k (same valve train as your Spit) and figured out that at a typical race weekend at Summit Point it might go to redline 560 times (about eight times a lap).  your results may vary!

Anyway, a 30 lb loss is over 10%.  My settings are roughly 60 lb closed, 230 lb open at 0.523 lift.  I run the Isky VWE 005/SP116.  They also make a set with a softer inner spring (SP006) if you don?t need as much spring pressure.
I have a fairly radical cam, and these springs are adequate, have been running them for years.  Other manufacturers offer what seem to be similar but not identical spec springs, but if you open up the box  and they have orange paint on them, they are these Iskys.  It seems others re-package and sell them.  I?ve found this twice from other manufacturers, such as comp cams.

My guesses are:
you may not routinely run over 7k and have not noticed this before.
It may be valve float
If it?s a recent change, look for a broken valve spring
make sure your spring loads match the cam maker?s requirements.
If you have been running these springs ?forever?, replace them.  They are a wear item.

See you at Pitt race!

On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars. 

On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday. 

Thanks,
Marty
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Sat Jul 10 09:27:44 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:27:44 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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Marty, how much over 7k are you taking your engine?  Valve springs are indeed a wear item, I replace them on the engines I build by probably the 3rd rebuild.  This is true for all makes of engines.  I have a very nice spring checker that I use and checking the spring pressures at install height and nose (max compression) is an integral part of each rebuild.

________________________________
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Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 7:27 AM
To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve spring pressures

I shim mine to meet the cam maker?s requirements, and usually find there is a range of a few shims within which they are all set the same.  I also find that after two seasons the springs have lost about 30 lb seat pressure.  I routinely rev my GT6 to 7k (same valve train as your Spit) and figured out that at a typical race weekend at Summit Point it might go to redline 560 times (about eight times a lap).  your results may vary!

Anyway, a 30 lb loss is over 10%.  My settings are roughly 60 lb closed, 230 lb open at 0.523 lift.  I run the Isky VWE 005/SP116.  They also make a set with a softer inner spring (SP006) if you don?t need as much spring pressure.
I have a fairly radical cam, and these springs are adequate, have been running them for years.  Other manufacturers offer what seem to be similar but not identical spec springs, but if you open up the box  and they have orange paint on them, they are these Iskys.  It seems others re-package and sell them.  I?ve found this twice from other manufacturers, such as comp cams.

My guesses are:

  *   you may not routinely run over 7k and have not noticed this before.
  *   It may be valve float
  *   If it?s a recent change, look for a broken valve spring
  *   make sure your spring loads match the cam maker?s requirements.
  *   If you have been running these springs ?forever?, replace them.  They are a wear item.

See you at Pitt race!

On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars.

On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday.

Thanks,
Marty
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sat Jul 10 09:52:19 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 09:52:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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Marty;
How certain are you that the loss of power is cam-related? It could be a fuel delivery issue. Easy to check with an air-fuel ratio gauge. You might notice the mixture getting leaner as revs increase. 
Phil Gott


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2021, at 9:28 AM, LEE FOLLANSBEE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Marty, how much over 7k are you taking your engine?  Valve springs are indeed a wear item, I replace them on the engines I build by probably the 3rd rebuild.  This is true for all makes of engines.  I have a very nice spring checker that I use and checking the spring pressures at install height and nose (max compression) is an integral part of each rebuild.
> 
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 7:27 AM
> To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
> Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
>  
> I shim mine to meet the cam maker?s requirements, and usually find there is a range of a few shims within which they are all set the same.  I also find that after two seasons the springs have lost about 30 lb seat pressure.  I routinely rev my GT6 to 7k (same valve train as your Spit) and figured out that at a typical race weekend at Summit Point it might go to redline 560 times (about eight times a lap).  your results may vary!
> 
> Anyway, a 30 lb loss is over 10%.  My settings are roughly 60 lb closed, 230 lb open at 0.523 lift.  I run the Isky VWE 005/SP116.  They also make a set with a softer inner spring (SP006) if you don?t need as much spring pressure.
> I have a fairly radical cam, and these springs are adequate, have been running them for years.  Other manufacturers offer what seem to be similar but not identical spec springs, but if you open up the box  and they have orange paint on them, they are these Iskys.  It seems others re-package and sell them.  I?ve found this twice from other manufacturers, such as comp cams.
> 
> My guesses are:
> you may not routinely run over 7k and have not noticed this before.
> It may be valve float
> If it?s a recent change, look for a broken valve spring
> make sure your spring loads match the cam maker?s requirements.
> If you have been running these springs ?forever?, replace them.  They are a wear item.
> 
> See you at Pitt race!
> 
> On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars. 
> 
> On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Marty
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 10:00:45 2021
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 10:00:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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I don?t remember where I got this tidbit of wisdom (may have been a NGK tech) but my rule of thumb is to not use a resistor plug with a resistor plug wire.
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM

> On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:33 AM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.
>  
> The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?
>  
> Thanks, Mike
>  
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> 63 TR4, Street car
>  
> Mike & Becky Moore
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> 814-323-0698
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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 10 11:09:13 2021
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:09:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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That has always been my practice.

Bruce

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 12:01 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I don?t remember where I got this tidbit of wisdom (may have been a NGK
> tech) but my rule of thumb is to not use a resistor plug with a resistor
> plug wire.
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> Albuquerque NM
>
> On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:33 AM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy
> some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of
> places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody
> else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.
>
>
>
> The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?
>
>
>
> *Thanks, Mike*
>
>
>
> 62 TR4, Race car
>
> 63 TR4, Street car
>
>
>
> Mike & Becky Moore
>
> 6050 Ruhl Road, Fairview, PA 16415
>
> 814-323-0698
>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jul 12 05:40:46 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 07:40:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
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I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  

Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.

Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.

Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.

You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  

I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.

Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.

Scott Janzen,
?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.

On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 

The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 

I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 

Any comments gladly accepted

thanks

Terry 
Australia
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 06:07:01 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 05:07:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
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You can play with these suspension settings and try to detect the effect of the changes, assuming you have some way of obtaining an infinite amount of track time or a skid pad (limited but useful) to do the testing, or you could get a simulation program to play with. That?s how I initially dialed in Peyote and the results were good. These are dynamic systems with a lot of variables that interact. It?s not easy to optimize, but a good suspension simulation program can model everything that?s going on. The biggest problem then becomes modeling our ancient cars with their odd suspension components that no modern engineer would ever dream of using in a modern car. It can be done by approximation?even a TR3/4?s bonkers trunnion system can be approximated, it takes some work and will never be completely accurate?but it?s a lot closer than cut and try will get you. 

Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
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> On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
> I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  
> 
> Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.
> 
> Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.
> 
> Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.
> 
> You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  
> 
> I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.
> 
> Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.
> 
> Scott Janzen,
> ?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.
> 
> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
> could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 
> 
> The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 
> 
> I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 
> 
> Any comments gladly accepted
> 
> thanks
> 
> Terry 
> Australia
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jul 12 06:21:27 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 08:21:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
In-Reply-To: <55D15261-E6FF-4D41-8AA7-14300145AFC9@ponostyle.com>
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I also just monitor tire temp across the tread and wear patterns, figuring that?s a decent indicator of how the rubber is hooked up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?You can play with these suspension settings and try to detect the effect of the changes, assuming you have some way of obtaining an infinite amount of track time or a skid pad (limited but useful) to do the testing, or you could get a simulation program to play with. That?s how I initially dialed in Peyote and the results were good. These are dynamic systems with a lot of variables that interact. It?s not easy to optimize, but a good suspension simulation program can model everything that?s going on. The biggest problem then becomes modeling our ancient cars with their odd suspension components that no modern engineer would ever dream of using in a modern car. It can be done by approximation?even a TR3/4?s bonkers trunnion system can be approximated, it takes some work and will never be completely accurate?but it?s a lot closer than cut and try will get you. 
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
>> I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  
>> 
>> Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.
>> 
>> Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.
>> 
>> Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.
>> 
>> You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  
>> 
>> I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.
>> 
>> Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.
>> 
>> Scott Janzen,
>> ?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.
>> 
>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 
>> 
>> The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 
>> 
>> I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 
>> 
>> Any comments gladly accepted
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Terry 
>> Australia
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 06:44:26 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 05:44:26 -0700
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
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It?s a start, though off the top of my head there are three suspension settings that influence that, and of course tire pressure is the most direct variable with camber second. 

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 5:21 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> 
> I also just monitor tire temp across the tread and wear patterns, figuring that?s a decent indicator of how the rubber is hooked up.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?You can play with these suspension settings and try to detect the effect of the changes, assuming you have some way of obtaining an infinite amount of track time or a skid pad (limited but useful) to do the testing, or you could get a simulation program to play with. That?s how I initially dialed in Peyote and the results were good. These are dynamic systems with a lot of variables that interact. It?s not easy to optimize, but a good suspension simulation program can model everything that?s going on. The biggest problem then becomes modeling our ancient cars with their odd suspension components that no modern engineer would ever dream of using in a modern car. It can be done by approximation?even a TR3/4?s bonkers trunnion system can be approximated, it takes some work and will never be completely accurate?but it?s a lot closer than cut and try will get you. 
>> 
>> Bill Babcock
>> Beach Bum
>> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com>
>> https://www.Ponostyle.com
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
>>> I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  
>>> 
>>> Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.
>>> 
>>> Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.
>>> 
>>> Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.
>>> 
>>> You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  
>>> 
>>> I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.
>>> 
>>> Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.
>>> 
>>> Scott Janzen,
>>> ?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 
>>> 
>>> The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 
>>> 
>>> Any comments gladly accepted
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Terry 
>>> Australia
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Tue Jul 13 09:42:43 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 08:42:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Final Kastner Cup Schedule
Message-ID: <1281274347.83465.1626190963389@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

We now have the final Provisional schedule for the Kastner Cup weekend.  For those that are planning to attend, please be sure to print out this schedule as it includes our social events as well as the racing times and supplemental information.

Load in starts Wednesday at about 5:00 p.m.  The Triumphs will be placed in the paddock together, so make sure you let them know at entry that you're with the Kastner Cup.  The test day is Thursday, 8 to 1 p.m.  Look for the SVRA virtual drivers meeting on Facebook, otherwise you'll need to attend the mandatory drivers meeting in person.

The Kastner Cup race group will run two qualification sessions that set the grid for the Saturday race.  On Sunday we have a Fan Walk planned at lunch, with the Reunion race at 1:45.

Social events include a Celebration of Life for Kas on Thursday late afternoon, British Sportscar Hall Of Fame reception on Friday, and of course the Kastner Cup awards at 4:30 on Saturday after the race.

Please check in at the Kastner Cup tent on Thursday afternoon to receive your commentative items. and pay your $50 Kastner Cup Committee registration fee.  We cut the FOT fee in half this year because of sponsorship, plus we've added special items.  A really cool Kastner Cup Nomex drivers suit patch will be provided that's FIA approved.  We also have a dash plaque, tee shirt, and poster.  A limited number of tee shirts, posters, and dash plaques will be available for purchase (cash or check please as we don't have a credit card machine).

Joe Alexander is our Grand Marshall of course.  I'd also like to thank the other members of the Race Committee including John Linney, Steve Balfer, Shawn Frank, Cregg Cowan and Sean Alexander.

Curt Johnston
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Tue Jul 13 09:46:35 2021
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 15:46:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Final Kastner Cup Schedule
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 Hi, Curt-? Is there any way that T-shirts can be made available to those of us whom cannot attend??? Thanks-? Jay De Pol
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:42 am
Subject: [Fot] Final Kastner Cup Schedule

   Hello FOT,   ?   We now have the final Provisional schedule for the Kastner Cup weekend.? For those that are planning to attend, please be sure to print out this schedule as it includes our social events as well as the racing times and supplemental information.   ?   Load in starts Wednesday at about 5:00 p.m.? The Triumphs will be placed in the paddock together, so make sure you let them know at entry that you're with the Kastner Cup.? The test day is Thursday, 8 to 1 p.m.? Look for the SVRA virtual drivers meeting on Facebook, otherwise you'll need to attend the mandatory drivers meeting in person.   ?   The Kastner Cup race group will run two qualification sessions that set the grid for the Saturday race.? On Sunday we have a Fan Walk planned at lunch, with the Reunion race at 1:45.   ?   Social events include a Celebration of Life for Kas on Thursday late afternoon, British Sportscar Hall Of Fame reception on Friday, and of course the Kastner Cup awards at 4:30 on Saturday after the race.   ?   Please check in at the Kastner Cup tent on Thursday afternoon to receive your commentative items. and pay your $50 Kastner Cup Committee registration fee.? We cut the FOT fee in half this year because of sponsorship, plus we've added special items.? A really cool Kastner Cup Nomex drivers suit patch will be provided that's FIA approved.? We also have a dash plaque, tee shirt, and poster.? A limited number of tee shirts, posters, and dash plaques will be available for purchase (cash or check please as we don't have a credit card machine).   ?   Joe Alexander is our Grand Marshall of course.? I'd also like to thank the other members of the Race Committee including John Linney, Steve Balfer, Shawn Frank, Cregg Cowan and Sean Alexander.   ?   Curt Johnston   Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair   curt.johnston at comcast.net   707-249-1667  _______________________________________________
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Tue Jul 13 17:39:35 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:39:35 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Pitt Race
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Safe travels and good luck to everyone who will be attending the VRG 
Pitt Race this week/weekend!
I hope to see you all there.

Mike Kurtz
Yellow 1970 TR6? (#651)


From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 18:29:13 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 20:29:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Pitt Race
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I just had a track session today at pit race. The track is in excellent
shape, and the facilities are in wonderful shape too. It should be a
wonderful weekend.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 7:47 PM finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Safe travels and good luck to everyone who will be attending the VRG
> Pitt Race this week/weekend!
> I hope to see you all there.
>
> Mike Kurtz
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 15:13:44 2021
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:13:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Cams & Misc Other Parts
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Amici,

Everything needs to go!  Bundle Deal - $300, plus shipping!

Cams for Spitfire:

#1 - New Isky large journal Spitfire - ZM-66+10 grind - 278 duration 
#2 - Very Good/excellent (used) BBR-504 on new cam blank, parkerized(small journal Spitfire)
- 1296 (good OE) Rear engine plate (1)
- 1296 (good OE) Front engine plate (1)
- Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) Timing cover (2)
- 1296 (good OE) Distributor (1)
- NOS distributor cap 1296 - (4)
- New TRW GDB535 brake pads (fit spitfire front discs) with 15% more surface area (1 set)
- 1296 New distributor Rotor (3)
- 1296 (good OE) Stan-part rocker shaft, rockers, pedestal 
- 1296 (good OE) valve cover (1)
- Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) rear main seal housing (2)
- Spitfire MK1-3 (very nice) steering column mount/brackets set (1)
- Spitfire (good used) 3/4? sway bar
- MK1 Spitfire (good used) Gauge Dash panel - metal, not wood! (1)
- TS Imported New Clutch plate - (10 spline - Spit)  (1)
- Grant (Good used) 11.5? steering wheel (1)
- MK2-MK3 Spitfire (very nice OE) Tachometer (1)

I would like all these parts to go to a good home and to be put in use again!!  PM me with if interested.

Thanks, Terry 
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 17:52:56 2021
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:52:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Cams & Misc Other Parts
In-Reply-To: <8D2A6AEF-B61F-430D-8703-8BD840E41467@gmail.com>
References: <8D2A6AEF-B61F-430D-8703-8BD840E41467@gmail.com>
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Sold - Thanks!

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 17:13, Terry Sopher <terrysopher at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Amici,
> 
> Everything needs to go!  Bundle Deal - $300, plus shipping!
> 
> Cams for Spitfire:
> 
> #1 - New Isky large journal Spitfire - ZM-66+10 grind - 278 duration 
> #2 - Very Good/excellent (used) BBR-504 on new cam blank, parkerized(small journal Spitfire)
> - 1296 (good OE) Rear engine plate (1)
> - 1296 (good OE) Front engine plate (1)
> - Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) Timing cover (2)
> - 1296 (good OE) Distributor (1)
> - NOS distributor cap 1296 - (4)
> - New TRW GDB535 brake pads (fit spitfire front discs) with 15% more surface area (1 set)
> - 1296 New distributor Rotor (3)
> - 1296 (good OE) Stan-part rocker shaft, rockers, pedestal 
> - 1296 (good OE) valve cover (1)
> - Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) rear main seal housing (2)
> - Spitfire MK1-3 (very nice) steering column mount/brackets set (1)
> - Spitfire (good used) 3/4? sway bar
> - MK1 Spitfire (good used) Gauge Dash panel - metal, not wood! (1)
> - TS Imported New Clutch plate - (10 spline - Spit)  (1)
> - Grant (Good used) 11.5? steering wheel (1)
> - MK2-MK3 Spitfire (very nice OE) Tachometer (1)
> 
> I would like all these parts to go to a good home and to be put in use again!!  PM me with if interested.
> 
> Thanks, Terry 
>> 
>> 
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Sat Jul 17 11:16:08 2021
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 17:16:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 for sale
Message-ID: <DM6PR04MB4540823CB76917E715675587B4109@DM6PR04MB4540.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

A friend of mine, knows old cars but not Triumphs, is helping a wife whose husband died, sell this tr4. He has no idea how much to ask for it. I can get more info on it, but if know it is not running right now.

If anyone has some ideas or is interested I can get you in touch with him.

The car is in Pittsburgh, PA

Thanks
Mike

Michael T. Moore, CPA
3255 West 26th Street
Erie, PA 16506

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 14:54:57 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:54:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Podium of Triumph
Message-ID: <2559E915-E95E-4566-9ACD-96852059BAFA@gmail.com>

GT6.  TR4,  Spitfire.   Good weekend at Brainerd.  Portland next.

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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sun Jul 18 21:57:11 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 20:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Podium of Triumph
In-Reply-To: <2559E915-E95E-4566-9ACD-96852059BAFA@gmail.com>
References: <2559E915-E95E-4566-9ACD-96852059BAFA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <840050127.34787.1626667031750@connect.xfinity.com>

Excellent!  Congratulations to the Triumph gang.  I recognize Sean, who are the others?
Dave H.

> On 07/18/2021 1:54 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> GT6.  TR4,  Spitfire.   Good weekend at Brainerd.  Portland next.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jul 22 09:44:58 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:44:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
Message-ID: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>

I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68 GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to tell for sure with them installed.

Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 09:49:05 2021
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:49:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmo4o85Me0C7+iqzFTbwjH5iMR-n7hpucdq2-06G0qiJUp2Ng@mail.gmail.com>

Scott,
       Mk3 GT6 and Mk4/1500 Spitfires use different glass than the earlier
GT6's.

I think the GT6 mk1 and plus may share the same glass with the TR4-6

Jason

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I
> may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of
> the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68
> GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to
> tell for sure with them installed.
>
> Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
> _______________________________________________
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 10:22:55 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:22:55 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>

Scott, a trick I use for interchangeability is look up the stock part
number at Rimmer Bros. and compare it to the "new" model in question.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128
Mk1 and MK2 (GT6+) are the same part number.

mike

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I
> may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of
> the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68
> GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to
> tell for sure with them installed.
>
> Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 10:27:48 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:27:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
 <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVYrL-VoxWHPy07xhMw2VbOF_GQn8BYe5_yYCs+DXzqWNg@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot to add the link to the round tail Spitfire parts
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005867

The windshield is the same, PN 906707CLEAR, for all of them.

mike h

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott, a trick I use for interchangeability is look up the stock part
> number at Rimmer Bros. and compare it to the "new" model in question.
> https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128
> Mk1 and MK2 (GT6+) are the same part number.
>
> mike
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I
>> may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of
>> the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68
>> GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to
>> tell for sure with them installed.
>>
>> Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jul 22 10:52:22 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:52:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVYrL-VoxWHPy07xhMw2VbOF_GQn8BYe5_yYCs+DXzqWNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
 <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAO0FjVYrL-VoxWHPy07xhMw2VbOF_GQn8BYe5_yYCs+DXzqWNg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A331FB72-D006-4280-9626-753A5898DDE5@me.com>

good idea! Moss shows the same, actually lists the cars from ?62-?70 as all using the same windshield - Spit, GT6, Tr4-250-6

On Jul 22, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com> wrote:

I forgot to add the link to the round tail Spitfire parts
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005867 <https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005867>

The windshield is the same, PN 906707CLEAR, for all of them.

mike h

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com <mailto:ofracer at gmail.com>> wrote:
Scott, a trick I use for interchangeability is look up the stock part number at Rimmer Bros. and compare it to the "new" model in question.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128 <https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128>
Mk1 and MK2 (GT6+) are the same part number.

mike 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68 GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to tell for sure with them installed.

Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Jul 22 11:11:58 2021
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:11:58 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
Message-ID: <8a15a4e4-6273-5124-2b7a-9d75df744741@bradakis.com>

Yes, the TR4, 4A, 250, 6, and roundtail Spits and GT6 are all the same.

mjb.




From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul 23 18:06:42 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:06:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spark Plugs
Message-ID: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>

I've been using NGK-BP6ES plugs in my TR6, and am having a difficult 
time finding them. I am also having difficulty finding Champion N9YC 
plugs. It seems that non-resistor plugs are tough to find, and if you 
do, the price is outrageous.

Looking for leads on where to find the above plugs, or suggestions on 
alternatives.

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Jul 23 20:07:50 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 22:07:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spark Plugs
In-Reply-To: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>
References: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <BC0C58A3-DAC2-4FEB-83C0-C1F2DE560434@me.com>

Looks like advance auto and some eBay suppliers have them for about $2.25 each

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? I've been using NGK-BP6ES plugs in my TR6, and am having a difficult time finding them. I am also having difficulty finding Champion N9YC plugs. It seems that non-resistor plugs are tough to find, and if you do, the price is outrageous. 
> 
> Looking for leads on where to find the above plugs, or suggestions on alternatives.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul 23 21:00:44 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:00:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spark Plugs
In-Reply-To: <001301d7802c$4053a960$c0fafc20$@wi.rr.com>
References: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>
 <001301d7802c$4053a960$c0fafc20$@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <7300273f-f7fe-f897-5a65-40050e050e7e@ptd.net>

One site describes the Champion 300 N9YC as resistor, and another as 
non-resistor; that is what is confusing. I always thought with a 
resistor plug, an 'R' was in the number.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353433976077?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D233149%26meid%3D310d80f20475439da7221ed44c8ae3bc%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D353276293525%26itm%3D353433976077%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseWithPLXWeb%26brand%3DChampion+Spark+Plug&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A353433976077310d80f20475439da7221ed44c8ae3bc%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAACELXFongyDDYBjt%252Bnb0VtFa36tNiT8kLcm%252FzJMpq71WhI%252BIQKWi5HBahPFbhED2bmS%252FUSu8q72Gv2FTAwRWuce5COAfe2mkuqhJe6ep8mXYpuK1uid27rtRJTnL8FG7TMBFC0jw5c%252BeBi4SBhtCGuyceUpu%252BCrqhlpDiBO1%252BWRcKfJd3bH9%252BmI8y1OC0hsjwpBCQuQuzLZurs5NOB0EWd7%252F29dT9p72SD4yyiErFa59I8mRzPhJKJYVngG1pDOTP%252FFLQBh5xbLAEsFlDFCeWHc7vfU3U6RN%252BEOJcFeGXOa943hoaeQ2yK9oczX%252FfxLAXeGlFRY78Ns87wjh%252FxdbVrelt1A4pK7GXHBe%252BEs80P0NtuLmY0BoGXZjuk03dIESOz%252BQY690RhPpmr3mTECzraY%252BwOUEVVJEqwkIlkqJ%252FqBTzATWkog0b7Ju041GPIW8%252FfZ5rIvmZOSK5U%252FmqgfifxN%252BBM0Wbin87T3jZzBp4h%252FcvIfqwHp1nvbVTcR4IPQbM1BPOIFFOLQIft5LQA2oaR9bRhLFpPElJ7rbB4z0EN2xEHMFBsOPsq27MMmDGXp3r2mwSz21TNW6C2YzIVd1iWZ7teiqR39JTdbdpLpYY6D54jl%252BAvwAlKq7vwLrdsL6dRru9aSq96uJyOoBGUcYK%252BB%252BUookSmACXlVKf1GvwtOa%252FD9IQi8vytPR6u592H2rhbUg%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675&epid=81198061

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Non-Resistor-Copper-Plug-Champion-Spark-Plug-300-/353276293525

It's hard to imagine that one site would sell them for $2.99 and on 
another site $16.79, but then who knows.

Thanks for bearing with me.

Mike






On 7/23/2021 9:35 PM, tr4 at wi.rr.com wrote:
>
> SparkPlugs.com: N9YC $2.99 Champion 300 Spark Plug - Best Car 
> SparkPlug Replacement 
> <https://www.sparkplugs.com/champion-300-n9yc-nickel-spark-plug>
>
> How about $2.99 each and nearly 100 in stock.
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Finishing 
> Touch via Fot
> *Sent:* Friday, July 23, 2021 7:07 PM
> *To:* fot at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Fot] Spark Plugs
>
> I've been using NGK-BP6ES plugs in my TR6, and am having a difficult 
> time finding them. I am also having difficulty finding Champion N9YC 
> plugs. It seems that non-resistor plugs are tough to find, and if you 
> do, the price is outrageous.
>
> Looking for leads on where to find the above plugs, or suggestions on 
> alternatives.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
>

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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 14:29:11 2021
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 14:29:11 -0600
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Auto_parts_funnies=E2=80=A6?=
References: <1DF03346-108A-4B31-A65E-50BDCBBBBBC6.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1DF03346-108A-4B31-A65E-50BDCBBBBBC6@yahoo.com>

Many years ago I needed a TR water pump quick. Tried NAPA - no listing? Asked them to check a ?58 Ferguson TO20 tractor and Bingo! they had it on the shelf!
Today I needed a oil filter for the ?58 Fergie TO20. No listing - only for a TO35. Had him try a ?58 TR3 and Bingo! #1302 and on the shelf. Go figure?
Have fun in Portland! Sorry to say that yet again I?m going to miss the call to grid.
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM


From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 15:42:08 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:42:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] I Know it's not Portland, but...
References: <1712476111.855833.1627162928479.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1712476111.855833.1627162928479@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
A few of us Triumphisti were at PittRace last weekend for the PVGP Historics. We mostly made it through the rain and other challenges, but here's the Sunday AM "medium bore" race from my car. Henry any Scott were right behind me at the end. Great fun.
2021 PittRace Sunday Feature

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 10:40:29 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 09:40:29 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
Message-ID: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>

Inquiring minds would like to know.

Chuck


From emanteno at comcast.net  Sun Jul 25 12:18:10 2021
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:18:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
References: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff Quick
TR4 #51

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Inquiring minds would like to know.
>
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 12:23:11 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:23:11 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
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Irv beat me to it.

Between Eric and I, we have over 10,000 photos to go through, but once I
do, I will post the link here on the list.

I have some video and footage on my Facebook page, North American Triumphs
and will have much more when I get back to Iowa.

Check out North American Triumphs here:
www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 11:19 AM Irv Korey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Jeff Quick
> TR4 #51
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Inquiring minds would like to know.
>>
>> Chuck
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 14:56:22 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 13:56:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E3D88DB5-F646-4E27-B930-67686EF8C611@gmail.com>

Congrats Jeff!

Thanks,

Chuck

> On Jul 25, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Irv Korey <emanteno at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Jeff Quick
> TR4 #51
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Inquiring minds would like to know.
>> 
>> Chuck
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sun Jul 25 15:17:08 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 14:17:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <CAJRV2eZh_Mgk320ym2Se5KwB-6Y5BpLWR0=4GdRoTn4hmcYXYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
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 <CAJRV2eZh_Mgk320ym2Se5KwB-6Y5BpLWR0=4GdRoTn4hmcYXYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <232528897.192533.1627247828605@connect.xfinity.com>

Thanks guys.  Congratulations Jeff!  
The group photo shows a really nice turnout.  
I'll look forward to seeing some videos.
Dave H.

>     On 07/25/2021 11:23 AM Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>      
>      
>     Irv beat me to it. 
>      
>     Between Eric and I, we have over 10,000 photos to go through, but once I do, I will post the link here on the list. 
>      
>     I have some video and footage on my Facebook page, North American Triumphs and will have much more when I get back to Iowa.
>      
>     Check out North American Triumphs here:http://www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
>      
> 
>     Shawn Frank
>     The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
>     North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
>     Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
>     Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
>     Iowa British Car Club
>     FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
>     Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
>     515-339-4228
> 
>     On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 11:19 AM Irv Korey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
>         > >         Jeff Quick
> >         TR4 #51
> > 
> >         On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > 
> >             > > > Inquiring minds would like to know.
> > > 
> > >             Chuck
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From rick.parent at att.net  Sun Jul 25 16:03:17 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 22:03:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup results
References: <315947967.1027820.1627250597794.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sun Jul 25 17:05:32 2021
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 18:05:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
Message-ID: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>

Guys,

Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point. 

The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam. 

Thanks

Greg

Sent from my iPhone

From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 25 17:42:06 2021
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (James Palmer)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:42:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
References: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>

Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love to follow along!

Jamie Palmer


> On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Guys,
> 
> Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point. 
> 
> The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Greg
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 18:53:05 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:53:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
References: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
 <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAL43nSmBgjBPfEk4Owmzbrdr5SZYjBVj1PfzzB4oFJmKwFaxFA@mail.gmail.com>

This is a fascinating concept. Triumph endurance! ;)

Brian Dolan

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:42 PM James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love
> to follow along!
>
> Jamie Palmer
>
>
> > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Guys,
> >
> > Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to
> port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a
> base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point.
> >
> > The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From seacubeco at aol.com  Sun Jul 25 18:56:03 2021
From: seacubeco at aol.com (Christopher)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:56:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
References: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <08B6813C-A7D8-444C-8801-B182267475C4@aol.com>

Guys,  

I don?t have a fuel map or any other information but I have seen on YouTube that someone did a home made fuel injection on a mgb (I think). 

Another management system is speedurino.  

I hope this helps

Chris. 

> On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:42 PM, James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love to follow along!
> 
> Jamie Palmer
> 
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Guys,
>> 
>> Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point. 
>> 
>> The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 06:35:40 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 07:35:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <CAL43nSmBgjBPfEk4Owmzbrdr5SZYjBVj1PfzzB4oFJmKwFaxFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
 <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
 <CAL43nSmBgjBPfEk4Owmzbrdr5SZYjBVj1PfzzB4oFJmKwFaxFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWvc19YsRAjufxZL9=f=i=q1E5T5HwFF-4ODkS92GW8AmQ@mail.gmail.com>

We've done pretty well over the years, right up until we didn't. I'm pretty
sure we finished more than we DNF'd, but I have selective memory issues and
haven't been on every race team. We've had a few big failures overall, but
mechanically the car is up to it.  We did have a ring and pinion fail at
COTA. That could happen on the highway. That was years after we smoked a
diff early on in the summer heat at TWS before we realized that GL4 is
great for 20 minute vintage races but not for 8 hours straight. The heat
melted the poly diff mounts!  Aggressive dives are to be avoided as more
modern cars have us both on the acceleration and the braking. The front end
of a fiberglassed fendered TR6 is no match for the right rear 1/4 of a BMW
M3. More recently a 50 year old rocker called it quits. I'm sure there are
other fails I have blocked out.

Most of our problems can be traced back to our Lemon's roots and our build
it out of the scrap bin mentality. The wheels are hand me down American
Racing slots and we have more than once forgotten the fact that we needed
wheel spacers or the shouldered nuts would bottom out. We had to clean out
the repurposed fuel cell to remove disintegrating foam at the first race.
Street gas is different than race fuel. Over a decade later we have a
decent engine (about to become more responsive to throttle input), a close
ratio J-type, CV joint rear axles, fiberglass fenders and doors, and a very
trick removable front 1/2 clip from the BMW wars. We also found a couple of
TR6 manuals that list the TR6 as having a 13.5 gallon fuel tank.  I have
never been able to put much more than 11 in a stock tank, but whatever, the
rules allow us 2 gallon over stock specs and since we are counting the 71"
TR6 inner fender expansion tank as another 1/2 gallon we are putting in a
16 gallon fuel cell.  We figure we are good for 2 hour stints. At least the
car is.

Bob Kramer


On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:53 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> This is a fascinating concept. Triumph endurance! ;)
>
> Brian Dolan
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:42 PM James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love
>> to follow along!
>>
>> Jamie Palmer
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?Guys,
>> >
>> > Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to
>> port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a
>> base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point.
>> >
>> > The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> >
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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 06:50:29 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 08:50:29 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
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That?s awesome and terrific dedication.

We keep breaking stub axles.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 8:36 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> We've done pretty well over the years, right up until we didn't. I'm
> pretty sure we finished more than we DNF'd, but I have selective memory
> issues and haven't been on every race team. We've had a few big failures
> overall, but mechanically the car is up to it.  We did have a ring and
> pinion fail at COTA. That could happen on the highway. That was years after
> we smoked a diff early on in the summer heat at TWS before we realized that
> GL4 is great for 20 minute vintage races but not for 8 hours straight. The
> heat melted the poly diff mounts!  Aggressive dives are to be avoided as
> more modern cars have us both on the acceleration and the braking. The
> front end of a fiberglassed fendered TR6 is no match for the right rear 1/4
> of a BMW M3. More recently a 50 year old rocker called it quits. I'm sure
> there are other fails I have blocked out.
>
> Most of our problems can be traced back to our Lemon's roots and our build
> it out of the scrap bin mentality. The wheels are hand me down American
> Racing slots and we have more than once forgotten the fact that we needed
> wheel spacers or the shouldered nuts would bottom out. We had to clean out
> the repurposed fuel cell to remove disintegrating foam at the first race.
> Street gas is different than race fuel. Over a decade later we have a
> decent engine (about to become more responsive to throttle input), a close
> ratio J-type, CV joint rear axles, fiberglass fenders and doors, and a very
> trick removable front 1/2 clip from the BMW wars. We also found a couple of
> TR6 manuals that list the TR6 as having a 13.5 gallon fuel tank.  I have
> never been able to put much more than 11 in a stock tank, but whatever, the
> rules allow us 2 gallon over stock specs and since we are counting the 71"
> TR6 inner fender expansion tank as another 1/2 gallon we are putting in a
> 16 gallon fuel cell.  We figure we are good for 2 hour stints. At least the
> car is.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:53 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This is a fascinating concept. Triumph endurance! ;)
>>
>> Brian Dolan
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:42 PM James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love
>>> to follow along!
>>>
>>> Jamie Palmer
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > ?Guys,
>>> >
>>> > Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to
>>> port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a
>>> base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point.
>>> >
>>> > The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Greg
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Jul 26 07:34:02 2021
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Redmond)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:34:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR3a Head light trim
Message-ID: <1964092769.116554.1627306442731@mymail.optimum.net>

Friends,


Does anyone have a set of the deeper head light trim rings that they'd be willing to part with?  They don't have to be perfect, just usable.

1958 TR3a TS 29341

Thanks for listening

Todd
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From vfracing at aol.com  Mon Jul 26 08:05:01 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 10:05:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3a Head light trim
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Todd.
I have some rings. Could off a ?57 or a ?65 4A. How would I recognize them?
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2021, at 9:34 AM, Redmond via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Friends,
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a set of the deeper head light trim rings that they'd be willing to part with?  They don't have to be perfect, just usable.
> 
> 1958 TR3a TS 29341
> 
> Thanks for listening
> 
> Todd
> 
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 08:38:38 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 07:38:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
Message-ID: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>

I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 

First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 

Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 

Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.

Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8

Bill Babcock
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 08:55:56 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 07:55:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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You?re a class act Bill, nicely done.  We will all miss seeing you pilot the Petote!

Thanks,

Chuck

> On Jul 27, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> 
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> 
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> 
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> 
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Tue Jul 27 09:45:48 2021
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:45:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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ust
All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).? ? The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.? It must have been quite the experience for Curt.? ??
as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'.?hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)
best?
Mordy?

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From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2

I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones.?
First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt.?
Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car.?
Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <1246164974.144176.1627400748988@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <888D106019314BE896B9D11BEEF6B26F@Charly>

I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <1246164974.144176.1627400748988@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A0857D5D46A74025921B28E1D5160A3A@Charly>

I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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Message-ID: <31AB7367E5434D729D2A7E87CEFCDFA4@Charly>

I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue Jul 27 10:02:43 2021
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 12:02:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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And THATS why this is called the gentlemen?s sport.   Well done Bill!!



> On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> 
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> 
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> 
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> 
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 10:35:57 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:35:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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Bill, may I use this in publication?

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
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Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 9:41 AM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the
> Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was
> running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water
> temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten
> more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones.
>
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I
> mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it
> too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his
> position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by
> him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into
> race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the
> straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish
> and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while
> I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a
> long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so
> just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make
> good. It was a legitimate win for Curt.
>
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a
> great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to
> work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start
> his relationship with a great car.
>
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who
> can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced
> more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a
> third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched
> way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands
> of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my
> last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car
> deserves better.
>
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
>
> *Bill Babcock*
> *Beach Bum*
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
>
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 10:36:52 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:36:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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Sure. 

> On Jul 27, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Shawn Frank <continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Bill, may I use this in publication?
> 
> Shawn Frank
> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
> Iowa British Car Club
> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
> 515-339-4228
> 
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 9:41 AM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> 
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> 
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> 
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> 
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8 <https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8>
> 
> Bill Babcock
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Tue Jul 27 17:22:04 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:22:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <D254D588-356D-4309-BCF1-739F5419F0BD@optonline.net>
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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Bill,

I don't believe I deserved the win, but I'll pay it forward at some future date!  It was a totally unexpected thrill that I'll never forget.  Thank you Bill!

As everyone may be aware I had problems with the TR8 all weekend.  I only got about 14 hot laps on a new track for me.  So I stepped into the TR7 without the proper preparation for the race.  I knew I had to go deep into the corner to maintain the lead, but Oh Sh......I totally cooked it into the corner.  I left you with no other choice than run off track.  It was my fault, so I didn't feel you needed to give back the spot.

I agree with the comment below; well done Bill.  I owe someone a favor in return!

Curt Johnston 

>     On 07/27/2021 9:02 AM Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>      
>      
>     And THATS why this is called the gentlemen?s sport.   Well done Bill!!
>      
>      
> 
> 
>         > > On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >     > 
>         > >         I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> >          
> >         First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> >          
> >         Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> >          
> >         Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> >          
> >         Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
> >          
> >         Bill Babcock
> >         Beach Bum
> >         bill at ponostyle.com mailto:bill at ponostyle.com
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 09:22:37 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:22:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
Message-ID: <CAJRV2eYGWnecr_K8bx_rPnLXVPP-o+p4PCzME=ZoC9UzsJKiMw@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR. Accredit
the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our Kastner Cup
Champion, Jeff Quick!

Dropbox link with doc and photos...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0

Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
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From jhassall at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 09:42:39 2021
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 11:42:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
In-Reply-To: <CAJRV2eYGWnecr_K8bx_rPnLXVPP-o+p4PCzME=ZoC9UzsJKiMw@mail.gmail.com>
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Great job, as usual, tnx Shawn

?
jim    W4BEA
Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR. Accredit the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our Kastner Cup Champion, Jeff Quick!
> 
> Dropbox link with doc and photos...
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0
> 
> Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
> 
> 
> Shawn Frank
> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
> Iowa British Car Club
> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
> 515-339-4228
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 10:45:16 2021
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:45:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
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 Thanks, Shawn!? Excellent work!? Congrats to Jeff Quick (great name) and all the winners!-- Jay De Pol
 
 
-----Original Message-----
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To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2021 11:22 am
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report

Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR. Accredit the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our Kastner Cup Champion, Jeff Quick!
Dropbox link with doc and photos...https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0
Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
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North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 11:11:21 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 12:11:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
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That name will look good on the trophy!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 11:46 AM Jay De Pol via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks, Shawn!  Excellent work!  Congrats to Jeff Quick (great name) and
> all the winners!-- Jay De Pol
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2021 11:22 am
> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
>
> Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR.
> Accredit the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our
> Kastner Cup Champion, Jeff Quick!
>
> Dropbox link with doc and photos...
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0
> Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
>
> Shawn Frank
> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
> Iowa British Car Club
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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Jul 29 07:39:57 2021
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 07:39:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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On 7/27/21 8:38 AM, Ponostyle via Fot wrote:
>
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8 
> <https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8>
>
>

Now if this happened in a Spec Miata race, there would have been 
bloodshed in the pits.


mjb.




From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Jul 29 08:56:50 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 07:56:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Kastner Cup Awarded, Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners,
 Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
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It's good to see this prominent announcement and article in my email this morning and thought I should share it.
Cheers,
Dave H.

>     ---------- Original Message ----------
>     From: Vintage Motorsport Magazine <info at vintagemotorsport.com>
>     To: dlhogye at comcast.net
>     Date: 07/29/2021 7:05 AM
>     Subject: Kastner Cup Awarded, Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners, Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
>      
>      
>     Vintage Motorsport eNews
>      
>     07.29.2021 | Editors: Scott and Cyndi Paceley
>      
>     View in Browser www.vintagemotorsport.com https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc0MdiLxOaY0wcnIW_ozpnN4DNBrw1Xfz4mnSg6PbE_AQ3bMgLe-X4-bitU80u4UlKOUYs0paCZTlD4wrgBAANhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
>      
>     Kastner Cup Goes to Jeff Quick https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKgWHGdohH1v9Mt7BkuQcpOVfhKJYToXeEqO8EMVLwJVOc7haD4JDGoIDZpw5Zy_KQJuz1C9J9eZc5IMeLlUR9lKfSpm1AyyRaGaWe72leEn4qAGksvcy_ruJ98o-NboGzzXraHHOekyQmDqY7iQewXM=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     2021 Kastner Cup awardee Jeff Quick (front) with his Triumph mates. Photo: North American Triumphs
>      
>     Portland, OR -- Last Saturday?s 19th Kastner Cup vintage race at Portland International Raceway -- the first without its co-founder and namesake https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKq5NtTZ8CW0LhXk2zWS9DbWbjBmlCT-kllfvGLTF5GqeZl1HTpKoiTfmf1kHE2g9ECl93bVZik35vtHD-_3bpwAkIEilZ-SgvxagVg-wSu1AWY9FN0VkTzTjAU1CpnHRt-EaA2wirg_m8pdvuxLLfhmZVgrw8uLcqNQx9_3grdGC&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== who passed away in April ? was a fitting tribute to the late R.W. ?Kas? Kastner.
>      
>     Read more at VintageMotorsport.com https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcK6dRyIsmCRFhiI7SAxvUCYGeSpIYCy_GHYzXMg4GicVqkxZAua2IM18uDidyqjmljfx2gyzpUFkq-sfZulCOMCcu7JIZEbVBxIYMkvocDTyZ66p5jVVMk3pVGDqnlceA_ZUiTr1swpSYOINzkfMaRg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
>      
>     Over 200 Cars Already Confirmed for Woodward Dream Show
>      
>     Photo: Woodward Dream Show
>      
>     Pontiac, MI ? Car entries are still being accepted https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc69ZBfuBE8W4_VGz-LnTP4wpVESzNcdobf2LD5DeSm8fGnIVieG76_QmSvcWFmiCJDzLPoQMZ8rz7PVL4raN-wACM1yPWTG5wK3cyV4GwkIbVTU3HcKefmw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== for the Aug. 20 Woodward Dream Show at the M1 Concourse, and organizers hope to generously exceed the current roster of 200-plus cars.
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>     Read the full story, including videos with two car owners, on VintageMotorsport.com https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcWNdrNQA2FKHtXwmbgtr7XbkKHEIakHeYuuORLpR2zUHKWSJRe8bohZrg1n89ttzvOJlMa2a9YQKnq-g83GaHXrYAxLKvr_dW2RH_IE4bi4d1KPxiZaP-1klMXfJcFXr4qifSpjClcJ_qELKbFK2bmGZcAu_C1ASEQ5uTwFITAOo=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== . https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKpgWsJkGlYJBCpkV76-jAJWdLkvy-DNxFdzPBvikmT57ZKWdJAk8owFZ4fIhFJXDg-P0jpOu-8ZRPW8yevvmz94P_gcHvOlQLY2b9H8Su5avp64AO3RtziSV_N7UZ2kpGUv8-umTv3L0QXX2YxNp_4h1_IQnPu_vA2k2jm1Mi4tSKntw9aQS9gzPM-8aJgxsQRrL2DNOQ3YsjLrGZKJ0UeUoIerW03DWjA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     ICYMI: Sept. 23 RRDC Dinner Will Fete Rick Mears https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Scott LePage/Motorsport Images
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>     RACER colleague Marshall Pruett brings the good news that the Road Racing Drivers Club dinner, an annual event that has been part of the Long Beach Grand Prix weekend for more than a decade, is returning. This year?s honoree is Rick Mears.
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>     Read the full story on VintageMotorsport.com. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcLzqGkDy_NoQxd4PVQWoFDPDxUqpbz2WFG9hnFEaU8bxxTTzznOutg7IYLbyUy1hV6h39GPv95V-Tl9xJKQ7LqOcgtDKJZXeDT-u0FYH_I7D1hW5sMFAmE8xbcIodlSmGYyGzxKbqu7sPNrSbzcyRAIUhhF2YjbZaxa081PuYJmNkyysVf1Yykg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Revolant? Will Offer Jim Clark Retrospective https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     The event will offer an upclose look at the Lotus Type 34 . Photo: Bonhams Auctions
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>     Carmel, IN ? Revolant?, part of the Aug. 27-29 Artomobilia weekend https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcErcD8clyvhNO_h5ZzbOdKIjGQfa28MN8o5a8pKQrwQA4wDlZqT71ISqqfQBzX-umiSM8a0QOOfDPnqYY-zjgUpfMHgSRJD7v7rpK2EG3B4Q=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that features the Shift Road Rally, Fuelicious, Artomobilia and more, will donate 100% of ticketed revenue to programming support for the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum.
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>     Set for Aug. 29, the idea behind Revolant? is the celebration of revolutionary automotive machinery, their visionary designers and the courageous drivers that have influenced road and race cars. What better place to do that than near the Racing Capital of the World?
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>     An amazing collection of cars in a variety of featured and specialty classes https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc7td3tqcgUz764NXBUykkf1hMsw6hdZ5VdDLJ8Q6RaAKY2lje-c2pedL1737xIMx8zWlyUEXXjuNeQRlWSbp7Ow9AXKp_j6tVdwW5zWYhhX4=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== ? including three eras of Indianapolis pace cars -- will be displayed on the grounds of the Bridgewater Golf Club https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcnT35mh4u4HyFQIfoeOCFs7f9Qafne4z9fzioBhxn0cDk2fdZAqY0pPDRpcCGQyZGoGXwRZhYypKvCe0Fx4HCSVTT8ox69LsG&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== in Carmel, Indiana. Among the highlights will be the event?s retrospective on Jim Clark and the Lotus Type 34, showing how the superior handling of a lightweight, rear-engine chassis redefined performance on the track.
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>     Artomobilia had announced in August 2019 that Revolant? would make its event debut in 2020, but the entire weekend was canceled. Purchase VIP or regular guest tickets. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcY8eyCopwXTI1zS2WbgWU_O9PW9ZZ6efOHRHMDW-98cr3QJjwCZkcQ8ue7DXUGVnpTlOk5WJhhfqzXLGAUchc6UbKrYP5p0oGgq_LFb1ha4U=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     FYI, the Aug. 28 Artomobilia https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcAsKcTpCeFfy6t-zWHDnaCAH8hRTgOvIKX5ScQPaUNXk0_nlFuGgYPpQCejK3xcmnmP2lWvFYaiDXiDFhJi0Oq-pb3KxdRwvXN-nlFwvTcg8=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== event in the Carmel Arts & Design District now includes car exhibits open to BMW, Lotus and Porsche. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcSe-JHLY4m_E_RWMXxwvRorqKsMsk4yCBgM3emAa6QWq-BcFzx64rYdA4-TdzL-shlDH7abbIDb3dzIVt1YWLBGqxa7Y4yX9c&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Monterey Momentum: Mecum Auction Preview
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>     Walworth, WI ? Among the newest additions to Mecum?s 600-car lineup for its Aug. 12-14 Daytime Auction at the Hyatt Regency Monterey Hotel and Spa is a group of three Shelby American cars.
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>     First is a 1967 Shelby 427 ?Semi Competition? Cobra https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchf4XezBwh8W1tWI7F5Li2iOhdmo7Eh7qqTLk-pdpKKt9yZ4IjjSwyyoNFWBt7otOoXpywEswwDYMqNO51RSVb0zYtoLyI1tAePNpGcUOj2l2Sr5huk9uftgBzm72BouQiu1aiwjoXhPtBOxf5B14lLf_xvHOmQ97beUsANPi-6yRDXgJ48vazE7-lSGJyHJU20KpDwIFMx04m6vwc_Ony7NVhyC2bcAeSVZsqseHjf5xtCRHQLa5lN6RJZ-B_emrD1qgGojr8Ldo29e9JCcHhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== , one of only 29 427 Cobra S/Cs built, and restored by Robin Automotive in Northern California. The celebrated car has won numerous awards throughout its lifetime, including first place in Competition Shelby Popular Vote at SAAC-5, a Gold Award at the 1998 SAAC Convention and Best Cobra and Best Comp Cobra at the 1999 SAAC meet in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
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>     Next is SFM5R538 https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc8WEHqJL1214QElJkL3qZIEbv64PA5V39jGga91USx9BHT8D-ALy70LwmIf6NTMJ3UMZUvfip7gsE4CUDDUBWbQxtXI5ck8vF3pzk7zn14W7O8A6hafPg-o5Kw7JxXuYsJwBrSjtEX5JPBMoKURHgVlgHjBy_Lz1ut38J0DNQl5Eb1Bt2Mdl6hea6LbL6Q7qqqatTcZGnovD57D73WQVy5EvYPUrphnza4vP_rd83EijXjaZV3-dlos6YhMtmBTFTUz_q3roXZxE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== , the winningest 1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback ever. One of only 36 factory competition models ever built, it claimed the SCCA Southeast Divisional Championship under original owner Roger West before making 54 starts with 42 finishes and 32 wins under the tutelage of second owner Charlie Kemp and Crew Chief Pete Hood, including a run of 17 straight victories between 1968 and 1969.
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>     And CSX2495, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc3hfMDMo_7W89le0YFn_U3uOjZzffZMhDer_MQlmV04PCZIqPFlGxIrDQGTtUTVKeq5sztRNrJUjonJo9w4PBBWoa2wKWHOuSRbQz4n6jSMbSyCui4lsnj3HgMcdMXvXxW1bM18VMpp8Lc0hijrzzqvNNG_CqWSerDbEasWaBzEy_G_EDRnzpuKQ4ZCeBdKjkgYvE_1Xbk2guRWsyNKfbqSuGFtciTDLVq-LEIlla1KslLGnxodfoCkjZIp7rXE2HR4K6f6DbDhE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== a 1965 Shelby 289 Cobra Roadster, was once owned by Jim Inglese, founder of the famous Inglese Induction Systems. In fact, Inglese?s foray into the tuning industry was allegedly inspired by this very car. While installing a set of Webers on CSX2495, Inglese ran into so much difficulty trying to get them to function properly, he decided to start an entire company dedicated to the process.
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>     These Shelbys join other star consignments that range from a 1936 Delahaye Type 135 Competition Court Teardrop Coupe, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCce85CxwRpIIu_FdvS4tleszziVEFCborLWq5JcKkYQ149lWh9swdwcHttP-benhauwibvvfHlBqYBZG9vBt6RAAy9stboiKxSMOUOYUfRqCRl2Cqk9PVABq_ZYuEjwD2JirztzxDg6HoS9qz8admf6OnNLfM_yV518oMRWiCA3n9D-yltqir8OhPDxfZjFLAKsaPiN9EAV-1Znp5gewA1vnY3Cmea7NQSdNdMYbmBCCNQfIpVQin9K26e77pZ5xBUZPjHCerH54FGdCutHgxs_w_sPaVD82OqyB1Y_sPHRds=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== a 1965 Ferrari 500 Superfast and a 1972 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchgni0Bb9duk5Db6qmDuovdFzEsA8OqctgvL3bixAcGKdYT_lNv0KwB1T9j8ZtYsRsk4sUWDQ5_ljfzNtAyTEgflFDSgWoDvEAeWWUH2pUenNDFrTwFIovGH4ZlSnHIWVjjuCWu0gyuNFl1fUESOfxkng1yhveNtWWk5AutFzsANSNVbkvzflHk5Y1AzbYg9t7Vij0Coiyq1hwWctJF2mSsbFceab5dJjOBiv5GzKvl_053eoq2zvC_oXidS55F79XfNBvcklJn4=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== to a 2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo and a 2014 Ferrari LaFerrari.
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>     Check out the full docket https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc-Qp3lQ2nwMxw9e-857thgsN97BSChlTDvHCBsS0iWb4RHNoBwZL2GoVSYUMESxlBwCv-6JWtfc3ZDPeFHyPcYayETqAtuELIq9bPPRsR1EmJNafDofbnjlnJiLLVvhw4&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that includes these favorites, and get the just-released digital catalogs for Friday https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcFqHEXRun1s2oo_8XKznxS-2qVbzxxJIWyeEw5P0GGts1I93h-O1SQkKAgBP0Qabgi3yKGz2QddQzKoJ7vcwc4Nbalgifeusv6S7W3i6SFGzFLy-ZrZCDgokL54UgK-z6gU_rTqsyUcAO_Jfra7F8zuzFBEOOXdXg&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== and Saturday. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcHlne7JXP3xMyit4DW7H07n6hh7JAvQfud00ZJv0XJb-WQ5w-EWBEIP0eK_GkKprxC9Y0NX_aPubo8eefdTk_IeQerDZobnuHRI8Cw9r5HY6zJDGWakDtIIoieo-o7pA7wvLkFYtcByKq1-tBaRd9wOMG8fg6RMtc&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcNbCkBi9tubPk43oeupX--C-w_MfvKg9cc0nDm_W0P9UHE_ctMBsD-XthECzzJ8O9qmd2-sFYSO0Z1rPVLmIMAReh75_z-ygxwtHkItBaAmI-HWGEOfRwLaNZIh7vMn9AD_d7H29uDR4xDRHSaVVHXyDvns9dpuLbuBEzPA0dH1c=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1968 Chevrolet Corvette SunRay-DX Racer https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcNbCkBi9tubPk43oeupX--C-w_MfvKg9cc0nDm_W0P9UHE_ctMBsD-XthECzzJ8O9qmd2-sFYSO0Z1rPVLmIMAReh75_z-ygxwtHkItBaAmI-HWGEOfRwLaNZIh7vMn9AD_d7H29uDR4xDRHSaVVHXyDvns9dpuLbuBEzPA0dH1c=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc5tyXodiV26qV8FhAErENvnE96xF6ugoSfhoEkGPIChcT1ntbmRi5XS1IUZ32lwx7HLOvAqiYb4zNnhaljAV1qbKOgrdALAv2FmCzCFSP3JEyzIg8uZ6oPGs353J6yQEtMbtAumGfovuAf3R_-_jkrgFSfRQAamEW&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1966 Ferrari 275 GTB/6C Long Nose https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc5tyXodiV26qV8FhAErENvnE96xF6ugoSfhoEkGPIChcT1ntbmRi5XS1IUZ32lwx7HLOvAqiYb4zNnhaljAV1qbKOgrdALAv2FmCzCFSP3JEyzIg8uZ6oPGs353J6yQEtMbtAumGfovuAf3R_-_jkrgFSfRQAamEW&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcx6bamEg5lqd3MI6ZdwDNbBFqVhsPIB66L2Na1nxjECXvOJMpNOLNCOIbPF5jgjxvrIdZ9NKD0lcT7gAX8XOC_NV-5mTEGh4PEMwXGN4MbROYyY2cwlvIh72lxu2OdYrS8QnuDwEtMLOfehEkQpi0CQIm1GqiiGGu&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1969 Chevrolet Corvette L88 Coupe https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcx6bamEg5lqd3MI6ZdwDNbBFqVhsPIB66L2Na1nxjECXvOJMpNOLNCOIbPF5jgjxvrIdZ9NKD0lcT7gAX8XOC_NV-5mTEGh4PEMwXGN4MbROYyY2cwlvIh72lxu2OdYrS8QnuDwEtMLOfehEkQpi0CQIm1GqiiGGu&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc4p81gY4zxJQH432D0wqy3BTmvCMcxTNXsIt3m6UD-14HlZxEl6VIzMdFHUSXoF0CpV_im0bujkRlHtQhFowSxK33DPn3zPfyntMDnB9SlvZHX5_c7WmVSmu13V8jKvm55ogN0QU45njU4WG6zXxsQA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1952 Ferrari 340 America https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc4p81gY4zxJQH432D0wqy3BTmvCMcxTNXsIt3m6UD-14HlZxEl6VIzMdFHUSXoF0CpV_im0bujkRlHtQhFowSxK33DPn3zPfyntMDnB9SlvZHX5_c7WmVSmu13V8jKvm55ogN0QU45njU4WG6zXxsQA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKv0ckNxkj1alZgcVfKDbHxHcEAQrz6yeOCABd4bLfzF5wRLLqhcI61Qjn_XaBVWd3UdP49foWdkxd0tUO2_F1P9uv8UsRrRpOf0ISidbhNCaDioJMD8LtQE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Museum News: Events and Exhibits https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKi8-Ph-1WSMSN20EFtTmxVfKxiDhtyMoFugqEMZ9tuqcE8F3HQWU-Sm0d6WXlLS1K7Hsqnw9ON0bCEjvEhkkDpPRJfQ4H_RTEdTfNGq1yeCFslEkdGXkgYdVPWuSNqjLRZH6F6bgJIS0X41kotEcv1ZMYBUowmsakSjBbHlgsoXitfDmOfeTWCyPd40zot_KKw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Museum of Modern Art
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>     The Museum of Modern Art?s Automania https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCckRcy4d-bRvnREE7nLUirpIApy3qoPrnCxLa5PlGa-pJvGzHXlmDNWEKfbT_d2bcct5xvAiAryJZVdHqh1a8b98QUz_GAoJrS7E1Xey27v_Tflms7Zr-5Dg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== exhibit has been open for a little over three weeks after the opening was postponed from last year. See cars from an art perspective in the display that runs through Jan. 2. Part of the exhibit is in the museum?s outdoor Sculpture Garden until Oct. 11.
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>     The Antique Automobile Club of America Museum will again host its largest annual event, Night at the Museum, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcWncr8PV9RKVgluXBhTtYNY-sAatNUglfQdFDf1MPDdthCNyME0sLZI6fmSJrMiVBWPU3IzSEK7pkkPK-BV_RsaJwmK-BZinU-OO_WzSwg7FRtxxiqj_USw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== on Oct. 6. The event will honor the museum?s 2021 Automotive Heritage Award honoree Jim Schmidt. The annual fundraiser will coincide with the start of the AACA Hershey Fall Meet https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcpjbksL8oV4ey-Q9yJM42i5yqK9pdtYIi0Rln_q8UNkkORVhh0-J84NGnUDf3jN509bUqo6SEeXJT-wkMzTufd72VPS8epumSWxzIDbjbj264N9oGXSjePg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that runs through Oct. 9.
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>     The Newport Car Museum will host the Mass Cruisers AutoFest https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCctPRBBBBinoJqKGLSHel5BRJZJx_Glj1MDertfdwbltGEbUUawMgxXp2zJT5s4bEfNLQhrjWWFwdLBCeYDlR-oCjBUHcWw-q_gpw864tRBMdMHqN7i_V_Yg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. Aug. 22 with more than 500 vehicles, trophies, vendors, music, food trucks and valve cover racing. Car registrations must be received by Aug. 16.
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>     Weekend Racing Calendar
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>     Photo: SAAC
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>     The Shelby American Automobile Club will present its annual convention ? SAAC-46 ? at Sonoma Raceway starting Friday with a more-than-full slate of activities https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcljZoxfF1mqm-PEd7WLwJCKyj53ffSQTSemDWwwWgRxzT0gmT4kN6JqlOuJzQmlSshdKXK9Vt9nlScMW9k6WQvA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== to make up for the cancellation of last year?s event.
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>     Rocky Mountain Vintage Racing will host its 10th Race Against Kids Cancer this weekend at High Plains Raceway. Entrants https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc8-4Bkd4_vFvqhtqtKAKyzS2aUaWk8FvuGsZsO2dMuJLDX13LuBkxWLMCw0GPkR8ns568YpheJ7fL6kdTiJGPkj8LbY7hoMgFm3zryfwXXrTnnjy_0KIx9pstbtVlvzKZQ8aDl9eQg7m6GOuU8BgCwVH_ioQF-tCWvFjhmPdCBbLmOQsgfWM9Ry7G5qE9qTRAVDsGRPr9lzU=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== will grid in several run groups to add to the club?s nine-year fundraising total of more than $1.2 million for the Morgan Adams Foundation. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKsv_JLRpV0zVurv7xH1JMMhyLlmFf7PT4zGI5R3bXSHlm6sB1ZhvQU7xgY74VhMIIaGxdIyRtF8ZN0Oa6pmsTeiNBwRrzTH-Rl_-jo9B9T3P&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     And this weekend?s 30th Silverstone Classic https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcUB7HM4l9Au0KXTtQD_Nq0BgWDChQcmzt-EqfnoMEqCTQkJWtEDuWzUWv1pKoFTL5J_bLtudJu1jwOEG-Sojqxw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== will be the biggest ever. With races harking back to the golden ages of Formula One, sports cars, GTs, single-seaters and touring cars, several grids now boast no fewer than 61 competition cars of yesteryear, never seen before in England.
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>     On the schedule are special showdowns marking the 60-year anniversaries of two British motoring gems: the Jaguar E-type and Mini Cooper S. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKsbspAKuq_2vguOAfFhbnWcAwxNmqOTitxpIvqbZ8VRNuJaMPwePrLzaCUYxfk_18vjNpXxXfTNB0oQrmVXQhZ8HM5Agp_8zDgQVlJ6u69eFlDWHGxSOTyABzK0LfMJ92Q==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Petersen Offering Aug. 9-13 Road to Pebble Beach Rally https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKgWHGdohH1v9Mt7BkuQcpOVfhKJYToXeEqO8EMVLwJVOc7haD4JDGoIDZpw5Zy_KQJuz1C9J9eZc5IMeLlUR9lKfSpm1AyyRaGaWe72leEn4qAGksvcy_ruJ98o-NboGzzXraHHOekyQmDqY7iQewXM=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Pebble Beach Concours
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>     Los Angeles, CA ? As the calendar brings us closer to all of the action of Monterey Car Week, the Petersen Museum is offering a five-day road rally that starts at the museum and ends at Pebble Beach with Aug. 13 visits to RetroAuto, a classic car forum and various auctions.
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>     Along the way, rally participants will enjoy tours of private car collections, a visit to the Santa Margarita Ranch Drag Strip, the McCalls Motorworks Kickoff Party, dinners, panel discussions and much more.
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>     Get full information about the rally itinerary and ticket prices. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcF3s7zqaLzqw1wNX0IGU6MPQH8SxlU34JEFWT0lmnDBx90YclGYZTeUWbKVguLjKr-fUcaDWVy8Cw1TU34GgAYnf8YkY-YE4mLYhPJjVftJLWk36Hv6O6hSpX4vYmBBaJvEYq3L5BY-1uvdm2SH0V-U71PFGE99DG_kuO8m2totw9zzB8wP2-d_ZcfXcQlPhOh9Ms5N3wn_A=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKufaoA3SImHAvTS2u7ffNp2xAY_oXjxB4BWUKDIkUldlngMjQN0_iWaDe91ZYH9fvr5dunGCQqf-mZKOnRnRbXxsWKzQUrqfxA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Tickets Now Available for Audrain Concours and Seminars https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKjcVlJjh0ZUBzSiW7fNt84mg4Pyiid2utvfMVAJCpd4jjuBJvJVTMXUgyUAC_QFgRLUQwm4Nk1naihA0lHOLof-mnWfnUwXXzP8g1Wl3pAjIXRIuWbYrgmMgs97rzUloXaiO-Tlj6cxgTuk4KEiMdnsvxhXyyOz-SUidka_LHbkq&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Audrain Concours
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>     Newport, RI ? Leading up to the Oct. 3 Audrain Concours d?Elegance are three days of car-related activities and seminars, including an Oct. 1 interview of racing legend Lyn St. James by Motorsports Hall of Famer Judy Stropus, titled ?A Life on Track.? https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcOSC_1U3SNUjBwOK2CNnMOExfRmjNPBj8FyspHWPaanZylEQ4YXApyQzjVZujVnwETra4sVZOSkrLKm0HY88lacMQUIo5IiPCbiD0NGDukKqO-0cWmcK0JLmH1Fbb2kCNQ_c4CsB2O2g=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     The activities of Newport Auto Week get underway Sept. 30 with a special seminar on car collecting https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcvMwarkJdpPMpIvRFAMYtgu-qLm-iabgf_07l8joFlEDa-vh1tn2hALMZTtzaPKgu92WY7EVTbZwrsFmKR2rMuL7mudMHWev0Dbb-xACZJMNi1aWMqzihiP1ar98uqFr9jd021aOnLp_zErlJU93Ev47v0N2Wf8gE&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that features the East Coast/West Coast experiences of Jay Leno and Audrain Museum CEO Donald Osborne.
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>     Get info and ticket details about the concours, seminars and more. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcZxmqM7Jzf-pfRPCLWHiRLAUzc4X5ZKfN5ATnnGdmrRAfYRVnW6ZjPzQFJSWQqOuugtyKtYymWMJzD92githu9VtgLkARL3VZ&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     And if you haven?t yet watched the ?Best in Class? documentary about the making of the Audrain Concours, it?s now available on YouTube. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKqFXhHdhjOulI2MY-oH1bG7SdLGVkLkt8aWYTBGisWdEONMR2T5bT29Ps1Tbb59Nv9Tu7EQIPY9XZRAe6hjcgrPIEJwxPoyDlUc5BeIdHnbpRaPyvN3j5lXhPgapwnDyAA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     This Week's Videos
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>     The Amazing Engineering of Top Fuel Dragsters https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcUpkx48BJ9-kSwjrXG1w7xe-Z7LhpLWrrakXkFVm-MnVrDXV5kdk6tY1QMuHKh7WRJg5MJXDuto6fI0_Tdz2HG5_tj3QlW39gxqZCJ5963HlG4igS7M5stw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcUpkx48BJ9-kSwjrXG1w7xe-Z7LhpLWrrakXkFVm-MnVrDXV5kdk6tY1QMuHKh7WRJg5MJXDuto6fI0_Tdz2HG5_tj3QlW39gxqZCJ5963HlG4igS7M5stw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Lap of the Gods ? Didier Pironi at Watkins Glen https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcnW-cOMLDWl6rLah_r97XY3QIquherrV_PpUVPcumc8zbOdTdVpo4RbVxhw9Uf8fkMB5XQhYJPjgyoV7yIQaKFYdsalBLINVcJF6n3gHzYAk0h0MVWzZDXw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcnW-cOMLDWl6rLah_r97XY3QIquherrV_PpUVPcumc8zbOdTdVpo4RbVxhw9Uf8fkMB5XQhYJPjgyoV7yIQaKFYdsalBLINVcJF6n3gHzYAk0h0MVWzZDXw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 12:48:52 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 13:48:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Kastner Cup Awarded,
 Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners, Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
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Glad they used the group shot. V for victory!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 9:57 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> It's good to see this prominent announcement and article in my email this
> morning and thought I should share it.
> Cheers,
> Dave H.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Vintage Motorsport Magazine <info at vintagemotorsport.com>
> To: dlhogye at comcast.net
> Date: 07/29/2021 7:05 AM
> Subject: Kastner Cup Awarded, Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners,
> Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
>
>
> Vintage Motorsport eNews
>
> 07.29.2021 | Editors: Scott and Cyndi Paceley
>
> View in Browser www.vintagemotorsport.com
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc0MdiLxOaY0wcnIW_ozpnN4DNBrw1Xfz4mnSg6PbE_AQ3bMgLe-X4-bitU80u4UlKOUYs0paCZTlD4wrgBAANhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Kastner Cup Goes to Jeff Quick
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKgWHGdohH1v9Mt7BkuQcpOVfhKJYToXeEqO8EMVLwJVOc7haD4JDGoIDZpw5Zy_KQJuz1C9J9eZc5IMeLlUR9lKfSpm1AyyRaGaWe72leEn4qAGksvcy_ruJ98o-NboGzzXraHHOekyQmDqY7iQewXM=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> 2021 Kastner Cup awardee Jeff Quick (front) with his Triumph mates. Photo:
> North American Triumphs
>
> Portland, OR -- Last Saturday?s 19th Kastner Cup vintage race at Portland
> International Raceway -- the first without its co-founder and namesake
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKq5NtTZ8CW0LhXk2zWS9DbWbjBmlCT-kllfvGLTF5GqeZl1HTpKoiTfmf1kHE2g9ECl93bVZik35vtHD-_3bpwAkIEilZ-SgvxagVg-wSu1AWY9FN0VkTzTjAU1CpnHRt-EaA2wirg_m8pdvuxLLfhmZVgrw8uLcqNQx9_3grdGC&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> who passed away in April ? was a fitting tribute to the late R.W. ?Kas?
> Kastner.
>
> Read more at VintageMotorsport.com
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcK6dRyIsmCRFhiI7SAxvUCYGeSpIYCy_GHYzXMg4GicVqkxZAua2IM18uDidyqjmljfx2gyzpUFkq-sfZulCOMCcu7JIZEbVBxIYMkvocDTyZ66p5jVVMk3pVGDqnlceA_ZUiTr1swpSYOINzkfMaRg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Over 200 Cars Already Confirmed for Woodward Dream Show
>
> Photo: Woodward Dream Show
>
> Pontiac, MI ? Car entries are still being accepted
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> for the Aug. 20 Woodward Dream Show at the M1 Concourse, and organizers
> hope to generously exceed the current roster of 200-plus cars.
>
> Read the full story, including videos with two car owners, on
> VintageMotorsport.com
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>
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKpgWsJkGlYJBCpkV76-jAJWdLkvy-DNxFdzPBvikmT57ZKWdJAk8owFZ4fIhFJXDg-P0jpOu-8ZRPW8yevvmz94P_gcHvOlQLY2b9H8Su5avp64AO3RtziSV_N7UZ2kpGUv8-umTv3L0QXX2YxNp_4h1_IQnPu_vA2k2jm1Mi4tSKntw9aQS9gzPM-8aJgxsQRrL2DNOQ3YsjLrGZKJ0UeUoIerW03DWjA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> ICYMI: Sept. 23 RRDC Dinner Will Fete Rick Mears
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Photo: Scott LePage/Motorsport Images
>
> RACER colleague Marshall Pruett brings the good news that the Road Racing
> Drivers Club dinner, an annual event that has been part of the Long Beach
> Grand Prix weekend for more than a decade, is returning. This year?s
> honoree is Rick Mears.
>
> Read the full story on VintageMotorsport.com.
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcLzqGkDy_NoQxd4PVQWoFDPDxUqpbz2WFG9hnFEaU8bxxTTzznOutg7IYLbyUy1hV6h39GPv95V-Tl9xJKQ7LqOcgtDKJZXeDT-u0FYH_I7D1hW5sMFAmE8xbcIodlSmGYyGzxKbqu7sPNrSbzcyRAIUhhF2YjbZaxa081PuYJmNkyysVf1Yykg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Revolant? Will Offer Jim Clark Retrospective
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> The event will offer an upclose look at the Lotus Type 34 . Photo:
> Bonhams Auctions
>
> Carmel, IN ? Revolant?, part of the Aug. 27-29 Artomobilia weekend
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> that features the Shift Road Rally, Fuelicious, Artomobilia and more, will
> donate 100% of ticketed revenue to programming support for the Indianapolis
> Motor Speedway Museum.
>
> Set for Aug. 29, the idea behind Revolant? is the celebration of
> revolutionary automotive machinery, their visionary designers and the
> courageous drivers that have influenced road and race cars. What better
> place to do that than near the Racing Capital of the World?
>
> An amazing collection of cars in a variety of featured and specialty
> classes
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> ? including three eras of Indianapolis pace cars -- will be displayed on
> the grounds of the Bridgewater Golf Club
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcnT35mh4u4HyFQIfoeOCFs7f9Qafne4z9fzioBhxn0cDk2fdZAqY0pPDRpcCGQyZGoGXwRZhYypKvCe0Fx4HCSVTT8ox69LsG&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> in Carmel, Indiana. Among the highlights will be the event?s retrospective
> on Jim Clark and the Lotus Type 34, showing how the superior handling of a
> lightweight, rear-engine chassis redefined performance on the track.
>
> Artomobilia had announced in August 2019 that Revolant? would make its
> event debut in 2020, but the entire weekend was canceled. Purchase VIP or
> regular guest tickets.
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcY8eyCopwXTI1zS2WbgWU_O9PW9ZZ6efOHRHMDW-98cr3QJjwCZkcQ8ue7DXUGVnpTlOk5WJhhfqzXLGAUchc6UbKrYP5p0oGgq_LFb1ha4U=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> FYI, the Aug. 28 Artomobilia
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcAsKcTpCeFfy6t-zWHDnaCAH8hRTgOvIKX5ScQPaUNXk0_nlFuGgYPpQCejK3xcmnmP2lWvFYaiDXiDFhJi0Oq-pb3KxdRwvXN-nlFwvTcg8=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> event in the Carmel Arts & Design District now includes car exhibits open
> to BMW, Lotus and Porsche.
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcSe-JHLY4m_E_RWMXxwvRorqKsMsk4yCBgM3emAa6QWq-BcFzx64rYdA4-TdzL-shlDH7abbIDb3dzIVt1YWLBGqxa7Y4yX9c&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Monterey Momentum: Mecum Auction Preview
>
> Walworth, WI ? Among the newest additions to Mecum?s 600-car lineup for
> its Aug. 12-14 Daytime Auction at the Hyatt Regency Monterey Hotel and Spa
> is a group of three Shelby American cars.
>
> First is a 1967 Shelby 427 ?Semi Competition? Cobra
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchf4XezBwh8W1tWI7F5Li2iOhdmo7Eh7qqTLk-pdpKKt9yZ4IjjSwyyoNFWBt7otOoXpywEswwDYMqNO51RSVb0zYtoLyI1tAePNpGcUOj2l2Sr5huk9uftgBzm72BouQiu1aiwjoXhPtBOxf5B14lLf_xvHOmQ97beUsANPi-6yRDXgJ48vazE7-lSGJyHJU20KpDwIFMx04m6vwc_Ony7NVhyC2bcAeSVZsqseHjf5xtCRHQLa5lN6RJZ-B_emrD1qgGojr8Ldo29e9JCcHhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>,
> one of only 29 427 Cobra S/Cs built, and restored by Robin Automotive in
> Northern California. The celebrated car has won numerous awards throughout
> its lifetime, including first place in Competition Shelby Popular Vote at
> SAAC-5, a Gold Award at the 1998 SAAC Convention and Best Cobra and Best
> Comp Cobra at the 1999 SAAC meet in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
>
> Next is SFM5R538
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc8WEHqJL1214QElJkL3qZIEbv64PA5V39jGga91USx9BHT8D-ALy70LwmIf6NTMJ3UMZUvfip7gsE4CUDDUBWbQxtXI5ck8vF3pzk7zn14W7O8A6hafPg-o5Kw7JxXuYsJwBrSjtEX5JPBMoKURHgVlgHjBy_Lz1ut38J0DNQl5Eb1Bt2Mdl6hea6LbL6Q7qqqatTcZGnovD57D73WQVy5EvYPUrphnza4vP_rd83EijXjaZV3-dlos6YhMtmBTFTUz_q3roXZxE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>,
> the winningest 1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback ever. One of only 36 factory
> competition models ever built, it claimed the SCCA Southeast Divisional
> Championship under original owner Roger West before making 54 starts with
> 42 finishes and 32 wins under the tutelage of second owner Charlie Kemp and
> Crew Chief Pete Hood, including a run of 17 straight victories between 1968
> and 1969.
>
> And CSX2495,
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc3hfMDMo_7W89le0YFn_U3uOjZzffZMhDer_MQlmV04PCZIqPFlGxIrDQGTtUTVKeq5sztRNrJUjonJo9w4PBBWoa2wKWHOuSRbQz4n6jSMbSyCui4lsnj3HgMcdMXvXxW1bM18VMpp8Lc0hijrzzqvNNG_CqWSerDbEasWaBzEy_G_EDRnzpuKQ4ZCeBdKjkgYvE_1Xbk2guRWsyNKfbqSuGFtciTDLVq-LEIlla1KslLGnxodfoCkjZIp7rXE2HR4K6f6DbDhE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> a 1965 Shelby 289 Cobra Roadster, was once owned by Jim Inglese, founder of
> the famous Inglese Induction Systems. In fact, Inglese?s foray into the
> tuning industry was allegedly inspired by this very car. While installing a
> set of Webers on CSX2495, Inglese ran into so much difficulty trying to get
> them to function properly, he decided to start an entire company dedicated
> to the process.
>
> These Shelbys join other star consignments that range from a 1936
> Delahaye Type 135 Competition Court Teardrop Coupe,
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCce85CxwRpIIu_FdvS4tleszziVEFCborLWq5JcKkYQ149lWh9swdwcHttP-benhauwibvvfHlBqYBZG9vBt6RAAy9stboiKxSMOUOYUfRqCRl2Cqk9PVABq_ZYuEjwD2JirztzxDg6HoS9qz8admf6OnNLfM_yV518oMRWiCA3n9D-yltqir8OhPDxfZjFLAKsaPiN9EAV-1Znp5gewA1vnY3Cmea7NQSdNdMYbmBCCNQfIpVQin9K26e77pZ5xBUZPjHCerH54FGdCutHgxs_w_sPaVD82OqyB1Y_sPHRds=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> a 1965 Ferrari 500 Superfast and a 1972 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona,
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchgni0Bb9duk5Db6qmDuovdFzEsA8OqctgvL3bixAcGKdYT_lNv0KwB1T9j8ZtYsRsk4sUWDQ5_ljfzNtAyTEgflFDSgWoDvEAeWWUH2pUenNDFrTwFIovGH4ZlSnHIWVjjuCWu0gyuNFl1fUESOfxkng1yhveNtWWk5AutFzsANSNVbkvzflHk5Y1AzbYg9t7Vij0Coiyq1hwWctJF2mSsbFceab5dJjOBiv5GzKvl_053eoq2zvC_oXidS55F79XfNBvcklJn4=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> to a 2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo and a 2014 Ferrari LaFerrari.
>
> Check out the full docket
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc-Qp3lQ2nwMxw9e-857thgsN97BSChlTDvHCBsS0iWb4RHNoBwZL2GoVSYUMESxlBwCv-6JWtfc3ZDPeFHyPcYayETqAtuELIq9bPPRsR1EmJNafDofbnjlnJiLLVvhw4&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> that includes these favorites, and get the just-released digital catalogs
> for Friday
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcFqHEXRun1s2oo_8XKznxS-2qVbzxxJIWyeEw5P0GGts1I93h-O1SQkKAgBP0Qabgi3yKGz2QddQzKoJ7vcwc4Nbalgifeusv6S7W3i6SFGzFLy-ZrZCDgokL54UgK-z6gU_rTqsyUcAO_Jfra7F8zuzFBEOOXdXg&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> and Saturday.
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcHlne7JXP3xMyit4DW7H07n6hh7JAvQfud00ZJv0XJb-WQ5w-EWBEIP0eK_GkKprxC9Y0NX_aPubo8eefdTk_IeQerDZobnuHRI8Cw9r5HY6zJDGWakDtIIoieo-o7pA7wvLkFYtcByKq1-tBaRd9wOMG8fg6RMtc&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 16:03:54 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:03:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Anyone have contact info for Tom Dick.
Message-ID: <1B4C2A47-1C7B-41FC-8E70-71ECDB10A376@gmail.com>

This is the guy who rolled his TR4 at Schenely Park.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 31 07:34:02 2021
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:34:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Search for TR4 CT7135L
References: <2077144210.867067.1627738442586.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2077144210.867067.1627738442586@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Amici,
I?ve had a gentleman, Ed Paul, reach out to me with an interesting story about the grill in my car; and he has shared his search for an old TR4 race car. ?Do any of you know what has become of the 4 he mentions in the blurb below? ?I don?t recognize the names, but also BD (before Dave).?Let me know if you happen to, and I?ll share the information. ?(He has also posted on FB in a couple places).Thanks!Dave Gott
Message from Ed:
?Hi David,?Saw you race car photos and I remember giving a new front grille to the previous owner for that car. My dad worked in a dealership that stop selling Triumphs and when cleaning out the shop prior to a move gave me the grille and told me to give it to someone or throw it out. Still looks go.?I am wondering if you might know of the car listed below.I am looking for a Triumph TR-4 and the serial number is CT 7135L; engine number CT7319E. The car is was a 1962 TR-4 that was built into a race car by Dave Hackett in 1963. The raced in the Northeast of the United States and then sold to James Grob of Fort Lee, New Jersey in October 1967. I would love to find if this car still exists and if it does where is it now.Ed Paul?

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From ponobill at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 18:54:36 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 17:54:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Jul  1 06:49:14 2021
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2021 08:49:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Does anybody remember Cal Cams from Oakland, CA?
Message-ID: <16a33b54ce71bc9e3bcce41b8a04d306@tr4racer.com>

A club member bought a TR4 street car project from California and the 
camshaft in the pile of bits is stamped "Cal Cam 260". Not knowing any 
better, he installed it as a stock cam and is now a little disappointed 
by the lumpy idle. My first impression is assuming 260 implies the 
duration of the grind, 260 is really mild (like stock!) and should not 
be all that lumpy.

Does anybody have an old catalogue from Cal Cam? Any specs would be 
helpful. A cam card for their 260 grind would be really helpful!

Cheers



From cartravel at pobox.com  Thu Jul  1 09:10:47 2021
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 10:10:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Does anybody remember Cal Cams from Oakland, CA?
In-Reply-To: <16a33b54ce71bc9e3bcce41b8a04d306@tr4racer.com>
References: <16a33b54ce71bc9e3bcce41b8a04d306@tr4racer.com>
Message-ID: <665c1584-75bb-baf0-4b42-a00697ce2a61@pobox.com>

Why not measure it to see what you've got? The 260 could be an 0.050 
number. See https://www.tildentechnologies.com/Cams/Tips_Takes.html
 ?- Larry


On 7/1/2021 7:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot wrote:
> A club member bought a TR4 street car project from California and the 
> camshaft in the pile of bits is stamped "Cal Cam 260". Not knowing any 
> better, he installed it as a stock cam and is now a little 
> disappointed by the lumpy idle. My first impression is assuming 260 
> implies the duration of the grind, 260 is really mild (like stock!) 
> and should not be all that lumpy.
>
> Does anybody have an old catalogue from Cal Cam? Any specs would be 
> helpful. A cam card for their 260 grind would be really helpful!
>
> Cheers
>
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  1 19:15:03 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 01:15:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre
References: <686204559.829982.1625188503409.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
Mark and a couple of his buddies have acquired the former Tony Martin TR6. This car held records at several tracks in the NE in E Prod and GT3. The car has been returned to vintage appearance and the trio is currently getting a feel for the car at SCCA Track Night in America events.
Mark - feel free to introduce yourself and the others in the team or just watch the list for a while to get a feel for the group.
I will add that the car had a setback last night at Palmer, but I know the FOT can help this team get back on the horse.

Regards,Bob Lang
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu Jul  1 19:19:22 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 01:19:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre
In-Reply-To: <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <686204559.829982.1625188503409.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1742993386.503930.1625188762655@mail.yahoo.com>

Beautiful Car. ?I came close to buying it a few years ago. ?Glad to hear that Mark is bringing it back!
SECOND!
Phil Gott


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>; msanterre14 at gmail.com <msanterre14 at gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 1, 2021 9:16 pm
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre

Hi,
Mark and a couple of his buddies have acquired the former Tony Martin TR6. This car held records at several tracks in the NE in E Prod and GT3. The car has been returned to vintage appearance and the trio is currently getting a feel for the car at SCCA Track Night in America events.
Mark - feel free to introduce yourself and the others in the team or just watch the list for a while to get a feel for the group.
I will add that the car had a setback last night at Palmer, but I know the FOT can help this team get back on the horse.

Regards,Bob Lang
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  1 20:18:18 2021
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 02:18:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nominating Mark Santerre
In-Reply-To: <1742993386.503930.1625188762655@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <686204559.829982.1625188503409.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <686204559.829982.1625188503409@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1742993386.503930.1625188762655@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1592677548.1196735.1625192298986@mail.yahoo.com>

Welcome, Mark! Always happy to see another TR6 guy! My wife races hers in the Midwest. Give a shout if you end up in Elkhart Lake!
Jake

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Fri Jul  2 03:32:10 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:32:10 +1000
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
Message-ID: <CA+UW8b2YoLPRsnMc4wfwam3cpEg+nmUqq8108-KNvCZkgzrs0A@mail.gmail.com>

could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on
front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering
changes to increase the static caster?

The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links
used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a
set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones .

I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for
many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with
"modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision.

Any comments gladly accepted

thanks

Terry
Australia
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul  2 07:41:03 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:41:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] windscreen
Message-ID: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>

I'm looking for a small windscreen for my open cockpit TR6. The type 
that would be mounted on the body? Any links to a company that makes or 
sells them would be appreciated. I would also consider a used one in 
good condition.
Thanks,
Mike Kurtz


From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 09:08:44 2021
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 15:08:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] windscreen
In-Reply-To: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
References: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <303263745.1069721.1625238524641@mail.yahoo.com>

 If you want a full-width windscreen check with Ted @ TSI, he can likely help.
Glen Efinger
 
 
-----Original Message-----
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To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 2, 2021 9:41 am
Subject: [Fot] windscreen

I'm looking for a small windscreen for my open cockpit TR6. The type 
that would be mounted on the body? Any links to a company that makes or 
sells them would be appreciated. I would also consider a used one in 
good condition.
Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 11:22:45 2021
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 17:22:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] windscreen
In-Reply-To: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
References: <ec4b11f4-c59b-7956-29f3-9107a5b52f35@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <208456558.4726941.1625246565764@mail.yahoo.com>

 I made one for my TR3 from a helmet visor.? Made a few aluminum brackets to attach it.? JoeB
    On Friday, July 2, 2021, 09:42:00 AM EDT, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I'm looking for a small windscreen for my open cockpit TR6. The type 
that would be mounted on the body? Any links to a company that makes or 
sells them would be appreciated. I would also consider a used one in 
good condition.
Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:10:15 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 02:10:15 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic
Message-ID: <001f01d76f9f$cd646170$682d2450$@gmail.com>

After this long break from this Covid shit I took the car to Spa.

 

The races went well, with minor problems (dirt in carbs).

Main problem was me?as driver. I?ve lost some speed. I hope I find the seconds missing one day:

 

https://youtu.be/9ix_2N7elxk

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 18:24:45 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 00:24:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic
In-Reply-To: <001f01d76f9f$cd646170$682d2450$@gmail.com>
References: <001f01d76f9f$cd646170$682d2450$@gmail.com>
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Very nice!You dispatched that Corvette handily!


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To: fot at autox.team.net
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Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic

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After this long break from this Covid shit I took the car to Spa.

 ?

The races went well, with minor problems (dirt in carbs).

Main problem was me?as driver. I?ve lost some speed. I hope I find the seconds missing one day:

 ?

https://youtu.be/9ix_2N7elxk

 ?

Cheers

Chris

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From msanterre14 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 20:02:56 2021
From: msanterre14 at gmail.com (Mark Santerre)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 22:02:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New member
Message-ID: <CANRE_fLaq4BgtB66hUwp3osMC3h-jCgr0-fXVDhE3krhJV+a0A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi my name is Mark and I was nominated to the group by Bob Lang
Thank you Bob and all the members who welcomed me.
As Bob said I am one of three guys who now own the 70 TR6 that belonged to
Tony Martin.
Bob had mentioned we suffered a set back wed at Palmer 1-1/4 lap into TNiA
the right front spindle sheared off at the seal boss.
 The front is mostly all custom parts.
Spindles were oversize made by Group 44 ,
Hubs are custom with Jaguar rotors,and 4 piston JRZ on one side Sierra on
the other
The JRZ mounting ears were snapped off when axle let go.
We have a spare spindle but are having trouble  finding a caliper.
Would anyone have an idea where I could possibly  find one.

Mark
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Mon Jul  5 21:56:16 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 03:56:16 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB7583459FA1D81EC7116DE819901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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________________________________
From: Henry A. Morrison
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
Subject: Z car drums

Happy 4th Triumph lovers,

Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.

The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.

Henry Morrison
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sun Jul  4 21:40:49 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 22:40:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup and others
Message-ID: <59936.1625456449@mitchelplumbing.com>

I somehow have been dropped from the mailing list and have been trying to get back on, unsuccessfully.
I'd like to at the least have some information concerning the Kas cup and possibly other items.
can someone forward me info or try to get me reinstaed on the mailing list.
And yes I have tried to do it my self with no luck.
thanks,
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44


From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Tue Jul  6 09:29:53 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 10:29:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75836F5D87E3C5DC83723F29901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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You can have them re-lined.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> From: Henry A. Morrison
> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
> To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
> Subject: Z car drums
>  
> Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
> 
> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
> 
> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
> 
> Henry Morrison 
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Tue Jul  6 09:38:29 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 08:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75836F5D87E3C5DC83723F29901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB7583459FA1D81EC7116DE819901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <381877892.183279.1625585909403@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello Henry,
Centric is the company that made the drums on my TR.  I remember they had both iron and aluminum and it was a little difficult confirming the correct aluminum unit part number.  I know I have the part number recorded.  I'll try getting that for you.  Hopefully they are still available.  If you do find them, be sure to have them turned for truing before using them and after the modifications to fit your Triumph.
Dave H. 

>     On 07/05/2021 8:56 PM Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>      
>      
>      
>      
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Henry A. Morrison
>     Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
>     To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
>     Subject: Z car drums
>      
>     Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
>      
>     Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
>      
>     The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
>      
>     Henry Morrison 
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 10:07:14 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 16:07:14 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Z car drums
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB758356949075941C80C7905E901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Thank you for all the responses for the Z car Drums.  I ordered some from the "Z Store" and hope to have them installed in time for the Cup!  My old ones are starting to get cracks around the bolt holes which probably isn't a big deal considering how well the drums are currently being lubricated.  I suppose my next topic will be separating axles, or buying the new Ford setup.......................

Looking forward to Portland, and still neck deep in Triumph projects.

Henry Morrison, Salt Lake City
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue Jul  6 10:47:08 2021
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 12:47:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <FC054F22-4A80-4EA4-BF27-0FC81029820C@wi.rr.com>
References: <FC054F22-4A80-4EA4-BF27-0FC81029820C@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <A99140BF-0959-44FE-8D70-8E0A863EA5B9@optonline.net>

Allen,

Who relines the z drums?  I have two sets that I?d like to have lined. 

Thanks I?m advance
Todd



> On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?You can have them re-lined.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> From: Henry A. Morrison
>> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
>> To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
>> Subject: Z car drums
>>  
>> Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
>> 
>> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
>> 
>> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
>> 
>> Henry Morrison 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 13:57:33 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 19:57:33 +0000
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.

Cheers,

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From emanteno at comcast.net  Tue Jul  6 14:08:45 2021
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 15:08:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAFWFMyjJF2EwqEH=HE1H6v50dWDBd7VOLgigBxa3AG+D1ztj2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Henry,

I really think that since your car will be more balanced front to rear due
to those heavy brake drums, you are now the odds
on favorite to win the Kastner Cup. Congratulations, and see you in
Portland.

Irv Korey

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 2:58 PM Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they
> don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Henry Morrison
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 14:31:54 2021
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:31:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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 Aha! This must be why Karen didn't set a new lap record at RA... Darn cast iron!

Jake
    On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 02:57:41 PM CDT, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.??
Cheers,?
Henry Morrison_______________________________________________
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 14:53:47 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 13:53:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>

I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!  

Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.  
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Henry Morrison
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Jul  6 15:22:46 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 23:22:46 +0200
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <005601d772ad$11345530$339cff90$@gmail.com>

I still run on the standard drums.

They do well on my car.

So far I had no need for alfin drums.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Henry A. Morrison via
Fot
Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juli 2021 21:58
An: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup, It will be because of my
heavy steel brake drums!

 

Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they
don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.  

 

Cheers, 

 

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Tue Jul  6 17:06:50 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 09:06:50 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
In-Reply-To: <FC054F22-4A80-4EA4-BF27-0FC81029820C@wi.rr.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75836F5D87E3C5DC83723F29901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CA+UW8b3wiVGZgokD2fnjPL_WOVPceNT8PJ8Ekr6qFvUCTLVO9Q@mail.gmail.com>

i have several sets , but shipping from Oz  to USA will be prohibitive.

ive not had any troubles machining them and using slightly oversized linings

Ive never considered Alans idea of fitting anew cast iron inner.

Terry



On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:30 AM Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> You can have them re-lined.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Henry A. Morrison
> *Sent:* Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
> *To:* FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
> *Subject:* Z car drums
>
> Happy 4th Triumph lovers,
>
> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to
> be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.
>
> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to
> select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.
>
> Henry Morrison
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 17:09:21 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 23:09:21 +0000
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
In-Reply-To: <0FEACE01-1696-4200-B6FF-69150F3FF41D@gmail.com>
References: <SJ0PR04MB75835189C2C178098D50C523901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>,
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Message-ID: <SJ0PR04MB7583004498E26FD52CAFED1C901B9@SJ0PR04MB7583.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I am going to the shed to dig out some cast iron drums just to regain Chuck's respect.  The money I save will be reinvested in installing the heater back in the TR, just in case I need to defrost my Brooklands screen.  Or in more wire wheels........

One or the other.

Henry

________________________________
From: Chuck Gee <chasgee22 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 2:53 PM
To: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup, It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!

I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!

Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.

Cheers,

Henry Morrison
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 20:30:54 2021
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:30:54 -0600
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
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Say what you may about Henry but he schooled us New Mexicans (SWMS) well.
After first race I won in the Plum Pi, Earl and Greg Miller (Sprite racers) walked by as I was changing tires. Did I get a ?congrats?? No!
Greg pointed out my ?illegal? cross-drilled rotors? ?Just ask Henry? he said. Took them off before the next race and they?re probably still on the shelf. How Henry has let Walt get away I don?t know. But I suspect a pay-off!
Cheers Henry? and all,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!  
> 
> Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuck Gee
> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.  
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> 
>> Henry Morrison
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Jul  6 21:27:46 2021
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 03:27:46 +0000
Subject: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup,
 It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!
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LOL!!!!

Cheers, Henry

________________________________
From: Greg Hilyer <lunkercars at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 8:30 PM
To: Chuck Gee <chasgee22 at gmail.com>
Cc: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>; fot <FOT at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] If I don't win the Kastner Cup, It will be because of my heavy steel brake drums!

Say what you may about Henry but he schooled us New Mexicans (SWMS) well.
After first race I won in the Plum Pi, Earl and Greg Miller (Sprite racers) walked by as I was changing tires. Did I get a ?congrats?? No!
Greg pointed out my ?illegal? cross-drilled rotors? ?Just ask Henry? he said. Took them off before the next race and they?re probably still on the shelf. How Henry has let Walt get away I don?t know. But I suspect a pay-off!
Cheers Henry? and all,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

On Jul 6, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?I can?t believe you are running Datsun parts and considering the Ford axle conversion!

Who are you and what have you done with Henry Morrison?

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Just throwing that out there early as the Z Store just replied that they don't have any aluminum drums and are having delivery difficulties.

Cheers,

Henry Morrison
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From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Wed Jul  7 19:28:46 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 20:28:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Z car drums
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J&G - the drum brake experts. McHenry, Illinois
815. 276. 2578

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Enquiries Road & Track <enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au> wrote:
> 
> ?
> i have several sets , but shipping from Oz  to USA will be prohibitive. 
> 
> ive not had any troubles machining them and using slightly oversized linings
> 
> Ive never considered Alans idea of fitting anew cast iron inner.
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:30 AM Allen Washatko via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> You can have them re-lined.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> From: Henry A. Morrison
>>> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:09 PM
>>> To: FOT at auto.team.net <FOT at auto.team.net>
>>> Subject: Z car drums
>>>  
>>> Happy 4th Triumph lovers, 
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a good source for Z car Aluminum Drums?  My old ones seem to be shot and the replacements seem to be all made from steel.  
>>> 
>>> The Alfins available are quite expensive and I am considering going to select some from my extensive collection of original cast drums.  
>>> 
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul  9 15:26:26 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:26:26 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
Message-ID: <fd1165ca-05f2-0bf9-7f20-351e4b0429be@ptd.net>

For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. 
If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire 
pressure to begin with?

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 TR6


From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Jul  9 15:37:43 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:37:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.  I called Toyo tech a while back, and they told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was the R888s - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now).  I?ve found that the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot.  Varies by corner- on most tracks I start my left front  a little lower because it gets the biggest workout, right rear higher. 

BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers, these like more camber.  I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and rear.  Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.  Be interesting to see what the Tr6 drivers say.


On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire pressure to begin with?

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jul  9 15:49:08 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:49:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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TR-4, 205-55/16's - I run 26 psi cold front, 24 psi cold rear. Will be 
mid 30's hot.? More than about 26 cold and they start to get skatey.? If 
I run more rear pressure I get understeer, but moving the rear up or 
down by a PSI makes a significant difference.? With IRS you'll likely 
have them closer to each other in pressure.

Love those tires.? Switched to them when Yokohama stopped making the 
205-60/15 A048's.

Cheers, Tony Drews

On 7/9/2021 4:37 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
> I run 205-60/13s on the GT6. ?I called Toyo tech a while back, and 
> they told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was 
> the R888s - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now). 
> ?I?ve found that the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot. 
> ?Varies by corner- on most tracks I start my left front ?a little 
> lower because it gets the biggest workout, right rear higher.
>
> BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers, 
> these like more camber. ?I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and 
> rear. ?Actually closer to 3 on the fronts. ?Be interesting to see what 
> the Tr6 drivers say.
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot 
> <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
> For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. 
> If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire 
> pressure to begin with?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 TR6
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 15:51:43 2021
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:51:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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Same here for Hoosiers, if I have the help I'll have them check the
pressures immediately off the track, maybe at black flag station, go around
the car and set to the desired hot, then they are preset for next session.
BTW, you might check those tires will be legal, my recollection is 60
series is as fat as we can go in Vintage

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:37 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.  I called Toyo tech a while back, and they
> told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was the R888s
> - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now).  I?ve found that
> the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot.  Varies by corner- on most
> tracks I start my left front  a little lower because it gets the biggest
> workout, right rear higher.
>
> BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers, these
> like more camber.  I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and rear.
> Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.  Be interesting to see what the Tr6
> drivers say.
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. If
> anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire pressure
> to begin with?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 TR6
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jul  9 16:58:31 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:58:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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They are not entirely legal, (should be 15" 60 series).? The only 
remaining 15" 60 series tire I can run is the Hoosier Speedster at $1000 
per set and last me 1.5 race weekends.? Economics dictate that I "cheat" 
on this one.

- Tony

On 7/9/2021 4:51 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote:
> Same here for Hoosiers, if I have the help I'll have them check the 
> pressures immediately off the track, maybe at black flag station, go 
> around the car and set to the desired hot, then they are preset for 
> next session.
> BTW, you might check those tires will be legal, my recollection is 60 
> series is as fat as we can go in Vintage
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:37 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.? I called Toyo tech a while back, and
>     they told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this
>     was the R888s - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run
>     now).? I?ve found that the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to
>     hot.? Varies by corner- on most tracks I start my left front ?a
>     little lower because it gets the biggest workout, right rear higher.
>
>     BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s
>     Hoosiers, these like more camber.? I have about 2.5 degrees
>     negative front and rear.? Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.? Be
>     interesting to see what the Tr6 drivers say.
>
>
>     On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot
>     <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15
>     tires. If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good
>     (cold) tire pressure to begin with?
>
>     Thanks,
>     Mike Kurtz
>     1970 TR6
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 17:47:23 2021
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 19:47:23 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tire pressures
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Yikes $1000, I think the reason it came up for me was because I had 50's on
the car when I went to request a log book. That's ok, the 60's barely fit
the GT6

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:58 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> They are not entirely legal, (should be 15" 60 series).  The only
> remaining 15" 60 series tire I can run is the Hoosier Speedster at $1000
> per set and last me 1.5 race weekends.  Economics dictate that I "cheat" on
> this one.
>
> - Tony
> On 7/9/2021 4:51 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote:
>
> Same here for Hoosiers, if I have the help I'll have them check the
> pressures immediately off the track, maybe at black flag station, go around
> the car and set to the desired hot, then they are preset for next session.
> BTW, you might check those tires will be legal, my recollection is 60
> series is as fat as we can go in Vintage
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:37 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I run 205-60/13s on the GT6.  I called Toyo tech a while back, and they
>> told me the tires like to run at about 35-36 pounds hot (this was the R888s
>> - I assume the Rs are similar, which is what I run now).  I?ve found that
>> the tires will gain 6-7 pounds from cold to hot.  Varies by corner- on most
>> tracks I start my left front  a little lower because it gets the biggest
>> workout, right rear higher.
>>
>> BTW, I?m not sure what you are switching from, but if it?s Hoosiers,
>> these like more camber.  I have about 2.5 degrees negative front and rear.
>> Actually closer to 3 on the fronts.  Be interesting to see what the Tr6
>> drivers say.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2021, at 5:26 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> For my TR6, I am switching over to Toyo Proxies R888R 205/50/15 tires. If
>> anyone has experience with these, what would be a good (cold) tire pressure
>> to begin with?
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>> Mike Kurtz
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Sat Jul 10 06:33:05 2021
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 12:33:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
Message-ID: <BL0PR04MB45295364CA226EE81A2347E2B4179@BL0PR04MB4529.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don't think it is COVID related.

The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?

Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

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From tlizzard at msn.com  Sat Jul 10 07:02:47 2021
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:02:47 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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I?ve noticed that non resistor NGKs have been replaced by the resistor type of the same heat range.  I?ve been putting them in street cars for a while now with no apparent issues on my customer?s cars.  Will they affect any changes on a race application?  Honestly I?m not sure, but most electronic ignitions require some kind of resistance in the plug wires, so I can?t see that they would hurt anything.  I?m certainly not going to stop using NGKs, they are the best.

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To: Amici Triumphi<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs

I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.

The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?

Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

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From 65356sc at msn.com  Sat Jul 10 07:08:06 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:08:06 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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You might try a motorcycle supply house like Cycle Gear for non-resistor options.

Lee

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Sparkplugs


I?ve noticed that non resistor NGKs have been replaced by the resistor type of the same heat range.  I?ve been putting them in street cars for a while now with no apparent issues on my customer?s cars.  Will they affect any changes on a race application?  Honestly I?m not sure, but most electronic ignitions require some kind of resistance in the plug wires, so I can?t see that they would hurt anything.  I?m certainly not going to stop using NGKs, they are the best.



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Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 8:33 AM
To: Amici Triumphi<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs



I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.



The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?



Thanks, Mike



62 TR4, Race car

63 TR4, Street car



Mike & Becky Moore

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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 07:45:38 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:45:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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 My applications are almost all TR6, so your part numbers may be slightly different...

This happened (the plugs became unavailable) with the NGK 6 heat-range plugs last year.
The only difference I noticed with the NGK BPR6ES and the BP6ES was no static on AM radio.
The NGK BPR7ES should work fine on your race car.
FWIW, I recently ordered 7's from Summit Racing and they "back ordered". This happened last year with the 6's, so I expect a notice from Summit to the effect that the BP7ES is NLA and they'll cancel the order.
It's not Covid - it's manufacturers dumping product lines that have low volume. That and "consolidation". They look at storing products and long inventory turns and jettison the slow moving products.
Regards,Bob Lang



    On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 8:33:27 AM EDT, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  
I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.
 
 ?
 
The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?
 
 ?
 
Thanks, Mike
 
 ?
 
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 10 07:48:13 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:48:13 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday.

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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 08:07:47 2021
From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 14:07:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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 I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars.?
    On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday.?
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Jul 10 08:27:48 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 10:27:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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I shim mine to meet the cam maker?s requirements, and usually find there is a range of a few shims within which they are all set the same.  I also find that after two seasons the springs have lost about 30 lb seat pressure.  I routinely rev my GT6 to 7k (same valve train as your Spit) and figured out that at a typical race weekend at Summit Point it might go to redline 560 times (about eight times a lap).  your results may vary!

Anyway, a 30 lb loss is over 10%.  My settings are roughly 60 lb closed, 230 lb open at 0.523 lift.  I run the Isky VWE 005/SP116.  They also make a set with a softer inner spring (SP006) if you don?t need as much spring pressure.
I have a fairly radical cam, and these springs are adequate, have been running them for years.  Other manufacturers offer what seem to be similar but not identical spec springs, but if you open up the box  and they have orange paint on them, they are these Iskys.  It seems others re-package and sell them.  I?ve found this twice from other manufacturers, such as comp cams.

My guesses are:
you may not routinely run over 7k and have not noticed this before.
It may be valve float
If it?s a recent change, look for a broken valve spring
make sure your spring loads match the cam maker?s requirements.
If you have been running these springs ?forever?, replace them.  They are a wear item.

See you at Pitt race!

On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars. 

On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday. 

Thanks,
Marty
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From 65356sc at msn.com  Sat Jul 10 09:27:44 2021
From: 65356sc at msn.com (LEE FOLLANSBEE)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:27:44 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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Marty, how much over 7k are you taking your engine?  Valve springs are indeed a wear item, I replace them on the engines I build by probably the 3rd rebuild.  This is true for all makes of engines.  I have a very nice spring checker that I use and checking the spring pressures at install height and nose (max compression) is an integral part of each rebuild.

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To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve spring pressures

I shim mine to meet the cam maker?s requirements, and usually find there is a range of a few shims within which they are all set the same.  I also find that after two seasons the springs have lost about 30 lb seat pressure.  I routinely rev my GT6 to 7k (same valve train as your Spit) and figured out that at a typical race weekend at Summit Point it might go to redline 560 times (about eight times a lap).  your results may vary!

Anyway, a 30 lb loss is over 10%.  My settings are roughly 60 lb closed, 230 lb open at 0.523 lift.  I run the Isky VWE 005/SP116.  They also make a set with a softer inner spring (SP006) if you don?t need as much spring pressure.
I have a fairly radical cam, and these springs are adequate, have been running them for years.  Other manufacturers offer what seem to be similar but not identical spec springs, but if you open up the box  and they have orange paint on them, they are these Iskys.  It seems others re-package and sell them.  I?ve found this twice from other manufacturers, such as comp cams.

My guesses are:

  *   you may not routinely run over 7k and have not noticed this before.
  *   It may be valve float
  *   If it?s a recent change, look for a broken valve spring
  *   make sure your spring loads match the cam maker?s requirements.
  *   If you have been running these springs ?forever?, replace them.  They are a wear item.

See you at Pitt race!

On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars.

On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday.

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From vfracing at aol.com  Sat Jul 10 09:52:19 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 09:52:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
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Marty;
How certain are you that the loss of power is cam-related? It could be a fuel delivery issue. Easy to check with an air-fuel ratio gauge. You might notice the mixture getting leaner as revs increase. 
Phil Gott


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2021, at 9:28 AM, LEE FOLLANSBEE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Marty, how much over 7k are you taking your engine?  Valve springs are indeed a wear item, I replace them on the engines I build by probably the 3rd rebuild.  This is true for all makes of engines.  I have a very nice spring checker that I use and checking the spring pressures at install height and nose (max compression) is an integral part of each rebuild.
> 
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 7:27 AM
> To: marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com>
> Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve spring pressures
>  
> I shim mine to meet the cam maker?s requirements, and usually find there is a range of a few shims within which they are all set the same.  I also find that after two seasons the springs have lost about 30 lb seat pressure.  I routinely rev my GT6 to 7k (same valve train as your Spit) and figured out that at a typical race weekend at Summit Point it might go to redline 560 times (about eight times a lap).  your results may vary!
> 
> Anyway, a 30 lb loss is over 10%.  My settings are roughly 60 lb closed, 230 lb open at 0.523 lift.  I run the Isky VWE 005/SP116.  They also make a set with a softer inner spring (SP006) if you don?t need as much spring pressure.
> I have a fairly radical cam, and these springs are adequate, have been running them for years.  Other manufacturers offer what seem to be similar but not identical spec springs, but if you open up the box  and they have orange paint on them, they are these Iskys.  It seems others re-package and sell them.  I?ve found this twice from other manufacturers, such as comp cams.
> 
> My guesses are:
> you may not routinely run over 7k and have not noticed this before.
> It may be valve float
> If it?s a recent change, look for a broken valve spring
> make sure your spring loads match the cam maker?s requirements.
> If you have been running these springs ?forever?, replace them.  They are a wear item.
> 
> See you at Pitt race!
> 
> On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, ralph hansen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I always set mine up with equal pressures at full closed. I would check them at full open and sometimes adjust them a bit to get better balance when closed. The pressure to open is more critical (told by a very old race tech from back in the day) to balance and smooth out the running at high rpm. Think of it as running through a series of eight spring loaded closed doors. If they are all the same spring pressure you fly through, with spring variances you get through some quicker, others impede your movement. I usually ended up with eight different shim stacks under my valves to achieve this but my under-developed 1147 would pull to 8k nice a steady and run a few ticks off the flyboys and ahead of many stronger cars. 
> 
> On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM CDT, marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey all. I am trying to decipher some power loss weirdness I was experiencing on the dyno Thursday over 7000 rpm on my Spitfire. One of the paths I am going down is valve spring pressure at full open. I know its cam dependent but what are some of you other Spitfire folks running so I can get some ballpark ideas. Heading to PittRace on Wednesday. 
> 
> Thanks,
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 10:00:45 2021
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 10:00:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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I don?t remember where I got this tidbit of wisdom (may have been a NGK tech) but my rule of thumb is to not use a resistor plug with a resistor plug wire.
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM

> On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:33 AM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.
>  
> The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?
>  
> Thanks, Mike
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> 63 TR4, Street car
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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 10 11:09:13 2021
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:09:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Sparkplugs
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That has always been my practice.

Bruce

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 12:01 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I don?t remember where I got this tidbit of wisdom (may have been a NGK
> tech) but my rule of thumb is to not use a resistor plug with a resistor
> plug wire.
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> Albuquerque NM
>
> On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:33 AM, Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I have been using NGK-BP7HS in my TR4. Recently I have been trying to buy
> some new ones and everybody is out of them or they are NLA. A couple of
> places have said that they are being replaced by NGK-BPR7HS. Has anybody
> else ran into this? I don?t think it is COVID related.
>
>
>
> The R stands for Resistor. Can I use the replacement?
>
>
>
> *Thanks, Mike*
>
>
>
> 62 TR4, Race car
>
> 63 TR4, Street car
>
>
>
> Mike & Becky Moore
>
> 6050 Ruhl Road, Fairview, PA 16415
>
> 814-323-0698
>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jul 12 05:40:46 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 07:40:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
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I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  

Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.

Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.

Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.

You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  

I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.

Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.

Scott Janzen,
?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.

On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 

The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 

I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 

Any comments gladly accepted

thanks

Terry 
Australia
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 06:07:01 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 05:07:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
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You can play with these suspension settings and try to detect the effect of the changes, assuming you have some way of obtaining an infinite amount of track time or a skid pad (limited but useful) to do the testing, or you could get a simulation program to play with. That?s how I initially dialed in Peyote and the results were good. These are dynamic systems with a lot of variables that interact. It?s not easy to optimize, but a good suspension simulation program can model everything that?s going on. The biggest problem then becomes modeling our ancient cars with their odd suspension components that no modern engineer would ever dream of using in a modern car. It can be done by approximation?even a TR3/4?s bonkers trunnion system can be approximated, it takes some work and will never be completely accurate?but it?s a lot closer than cut and try will get you. 

Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
> I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  
> 
> Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.
> 
> Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.
> 
> Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.
> 
> You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  
> 
> I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.
> 
> Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.
> 
> Scott Janzen,
> ?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.
> 
> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
> could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 
> 
> The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 
> 
> I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 
> 
> Any comments gladly accepted
> 
> thanks
> 
> Terry 
> Australia
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jul 12 06:21:27 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 08:21:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
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I also just monitor tire temp across the tread and wear patterns, figuring that?s a decent indicator of how the rubber is hooked up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?You can play with these suspension settings and try to detect the effect of the changes, assuming you have some way of obtaining an infinite amount of track time or a skid pad (limited but useful) to do the testing, or you could get a simulation program to play with. That?s how I initially dialed in Peyote and the results were good. These are dynamic systems with a lot of variables that interact. It?s not easy to optimize, but a good suspension simulation program can model everything that?s going on. The biggest problem then becomes modeling our ancient cars with their odd suspension components that no modern engineer would ever dream of using in a modern car. It can be done by approximation?even a TR3/4?s bonkers trunnion system can be approximated, it takes some work and will never be completely accurate?but it?s a lot closer than cut and try will get you. 
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
>> I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  
>> 
>> Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.
>> 
>> Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.
>> 
>> Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.
>> 
>> You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  
>> 
>> I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.
>> 
>> Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.
>> 
>> Scott Janzen,
>> ?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.
>> 
>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 
>> 
>> The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 
>> 
>> I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 
>> 
>> Any comments gladly accepted
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Terry 
>> Australia
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 06:44:26 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 05:44:26 -0700
Subject: [Fot] race alignment GT6
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It?s a start, though off the top of my head there are three suspension settings that influence that, and of course tire pressure is the most direct variable with camber second. 

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 5:21 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> 
> I also just monitor tire temp across the tread and wear patterns, figuring that?s a decent indicator of how the rubber is hooked up.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?You can play with these suspension settings and try to detect the effect of the changes, assuming you have some way of obtaining an infinite amount of track time or a skid pad (limited but useful) to do the testing, or you could get a simulation program to play with. That?s how I initially dialed in Peyote and the results were good. These are dynamic systems with a lot of variables that interact. It?s not easy to optimize, but a good suspension simulation program can model everything that?s going on. The biggest problem then becomes modeling our ancient cars with their odd suspension components that no modern engineer would ever dream of using in a modern car. It can be done by approximation?even a TR3/4?s bonkers trunnion system can be approximated, it takes some work and will never be completely accurate?but it?s a lot closer than cut and try will get you. 
>> 
>> Bill Babcock
>> Beach Bum
>> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com>
>> https://www.Ponostyle.com
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can tell you what my GT6 has.  What you run I?m sure depends to some extent on tires.
>>> I run Toyo R888Rs - radials.   They like negative camber.  
>>> 
>>> Fronts - 2.6 degrees negative camber, 1/16? toe in, castor 6 degrees.  Stock is 4, +/- 1.  I have to admit I have never tried to adjust this up or down.  With more castor, I think the camber gets a little more negative with turn-in, which is probably good as it counters body roll on the outside wheel.  However, now you?ve got me thinking, and I may dial it back to stock to see if I notice the difference.
>>> 
>>> Rears - 2.5 degrees  negative camber, slight toe in to counter suspension flex.
>>> 
>>> Hoosier bias plies (like the TD, which comes in 13? sizes) don?t like negative camber, so they are not interchangeable with these camber settings.
>>> 
>>> You can also adjust the castor by playing with the amount of shims front and rear on the lower a-arm, which will move the trunnion end of the A-arm front and rear.  Of course, that effects the camber, iterative process.  
>>> 
>>> I inherited my car with work done to reduce bump steer - mainly by bending the steering links down.  Very little bump steer within the normal operating range.
>>> 
>>> Be curious to hear what settings you end up with, or others use.
>>> 
>>> Scott Janzen,
>>> ?68 GT6, but with inner and outer u-joints at the rear and spicer sliding halfshafts.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> could anyone racing a GT6 (or even a Spitfire) please offer some comment on front alignment "settings". In particular, have you made engineering changes to increase the static caster? 
>>> 
>>> The most obvious option is to change to the trunnionless vertical links used on various clubman type race cars ., eg Caterham or Birkin. I have a set of Birkin alloy uprights , but i'll have to make suitable wishbones . 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to recommission our Mk2 GT6 racer which we have not used for many years, and my memory was the "stock" front end was not good with "modern" slicks and particularly mid-corner indecision. 
>>> 
>>> Any comments gladly accepted
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Terry 
>>> Australia
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Tue Jul 13 09:42:43 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 08:42:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Final Kastner Cup Schedule
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Hello FOT,

We now have the final Provisional schedule for the Kastner Cup weekend.  For those that are planning to attend, please be sure to print out this schedule as it includes our social events as well as the racing times and supplemental information.

Load in starts Wednesday at about 5:00 p.m.  The Triumphs will be placed in the paddock together, so make sure you let them know at entry that you're with the Kastner Cup.  The test day is Thursday, 8 to 1 p.m.  Look for the SVRA virtual drivers meeting on Facebook, otherwise you'll need to attend the mandatory drivers meeting in person.

The Kastner Cup race group will run two qualification sessions that set the grid for the Saturday race.  On Sunday we have a Fan Walk planned at lunch, with the Reunion race at 1:45.

Social events include a Celebration of Life for Kas on Thursday late afternoon, British Sportscar Hall Of Fame reception on Friday, and of course the Kastner Cup awards at 4:30 on Saturday after the race.

Please check in at the Kastner Cup tent on Thursday afternoon to receive your commentative items. and pay your $50 Kastner Cup Committee registration fee.  We cut the FOT fee in half this year because of sponsorship, plus we've added special items.  A really cool Kastner Cup Nomex drivers suit patch will be provided that's FIA approved.  We also have a dash plaque, tee shirt, and poster.  A limited number of tee shirts, posters, and dash plaques will be available for purchase (cash or check please as we don't have a credit card machine).

Joe Alexander is our Grand Marshall of course.  I'd also like to thank the other members of the Race Committee including John Linney, Steve Balfer, Shawn Frank, Cregg Cowan and Sean Alexander.

Curt Johnston
Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Tue Jul 13 09:46:35 2021
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 15:46:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Final Kastner Cup Schedule
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 Hi, Curt-? Is there any way that T-shirts can be made available to those of us whom cannot attend??? Thanks-? Jay De Pol
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:42 am
Subject: [Fot] Final Kastner Cup Schedule

   Hello FOT,   ?   We now have the final Provisional schedule for the Kastner Cup weekend.? For those that are planning to attend, please be sure to print out this schedule as it includes our social events as well as the racing times and supplemental information.   ?   Load in starts Wednesday at about 5:00 p.m.? The Triumphs will be placed in the paddock together, so make sure you let them know at entry that you're with the Kastner Cup.? The test day is Thursday, 8 to 1 p.m.? Look for the SVRA virtual drivers meeting on Facebook, otherwise you'll need to attend the mandatory drivers meeting in person.   ?   The Kastner Cup race group will run two qualification sessions that set the grid for the Saturday race.? On Sunday we have a Fan Walk planned at lunch, with the Reunion race at 1:45.   ?   Social events include a Celebration of Life for Kas on Thursday late afternoon, British Sportscar Hall Of Fame reception on Friday, and of course the Kastner Cup awards at 4:30 on Saturday after the race.   ?   Please check in at the Kastner Cup tent on Thursday afternoon to receive your commentative items. and pay your $50 Kastner Cup Committee registration fee.? We cut the FOT fee in half this year because of sponsorship, plus we've added special items.? A really cool Kastner Cup Nomex drivers suit patch will be provided that's FIA approved.? We also have a dash plaque, tee shirt, and poster.? A limited number of tee shirts, posters, and dash plaques will be available for purchase (cash or check please as we don't have a credit card machine).   ?   Joe Alexander is our Grand Marshall of course.? I'd also like to thank the other members of the Race Committee including John Linney, Steve Balfer, Shawn Frank, Cregg Cowan and Sean Alexander.   ?   Curt Johnston   Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair   curt.johnston at comcast.net   707-249-1667  _______________________________________________
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Tue Jul 13 17:39:35 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (finishing Touch)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:39:35 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Pitt Race
Message-ID: <dae5d897-a3b4-9cba-c05a-9785d6367038@ptd.net>

Safe travels and good luck to everyone who will be attending the VRG 
Pitt Race this week/weekend!
I hope to see you all there.

Mike Kurtz
Yellow 1970 TR6? (#651)


From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 18:29:13 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 20:29:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Pitt Race
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References: <dae5d897-a3b4-9cba-c05a-9785d6367038@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <CAL43nSkE32o97AVM8Ao9Kr8BeHUTiF3vJdo-941SRJd3jJmdKg@mail.gmail.com>

I just had a track session today at pit race. The track is in excellent
shape, and the facilities are in wonderful shape too. It should be a
wonderful weekend.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 7:47 PM finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Safe travels and good luck to everyone who will be attending the VRG
> Pitt Race this week/weekend!
> I hope to see you all there.
>
> Mike Kurtz
> Yellow 1970 TR6  (#651)
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 15:13:44 2021
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:13:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Cams & Misc Other Parts
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Amici,

Everything needs to go!  Bundle Deal - $300, plus shipping!

Cams for Spitfire:

#1 - New Isky large journal Spitfire - ZM-66+10 grind - 278 duration 
#2 - Very Good/excellent (used) BBR-504 on new cam blank, parkerized(small journal Spitfire)
- 1296 (good OE) Rear engine plate (1)
- 1296 (good OE) Front engine plate (1)
- Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) Timing cover (2)
- 1296 (good OE) Distributor (1)
- NOS distributor cap 1296 - (4)
- New TRW GDB535 brake pads (fit spitfire front discs) with 15% more surface area (1 set)
- 1296 New distributor Rotor (3)
- 1296 (good OE) Stan-part rocker shaft, rockers, pedestal 
- 1296 (good OE) valve cover (1)
- Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) rear main seal housing (2)
- Spitfire MK1-3 (very nice) steering column mount/brackets set (1)
- Spitfire (good used) 3/4? sway bar
- MK1 Spitfire (good used) Gauge Dash panel - metal, not wood! (1)
- TS Imported New Clutch plate - (10 spline - Spit)  (1)
- Grant (Good used) 11.5? steering wheel (1)
- MK2-MK3 Spitfire (very nice OE) Tachometer (1)

I would like all these parts to go to a good home and to be put in use again!!  PM me with if interested.

Thanks, Terry 
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 17:52:56 2021
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:52:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Cams & Misc Other Parts
In-Reply-To: <8D2A6AEF-B61F-430D-8703-8BD840E41467@gmail.com>
References: <8D2A6AEF-B61F-430D-8703-8BD840E41467@gmail.com>
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Sold - Thanks!

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 17:13, Terry Sopher <terrysopher at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Amici,
> 
> Everything needs to go!  Bundle Deal - $300, plus shipping!
> 
> Cams for Spitfire:
> 
> #1 - New Isky large journal Spitfire - ZM-66+10 grind - 278 duration 
> #2 - Very Good/excellent (used) BBR-504 on new cam blank, parkerized(small journal Spitfire)
> - 1296 (good OE) Rear engine plate (1)
> - 1296 (good OE) Front engine plate (1)
> - Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) Timing cover (2)
> - 1296 (good OE) Distributor (1)
> - NOS distributor cap 1296 - (4)
> - New TRW GDB535 brake pads (fit spitfire front discs) with 15% more surface area (1 set)
> - 1296 New distributor Rotor (3)
> - 1296 (good OE) Stan-part rocker shaft, rockers, pedestal 
> - 1296 (good OE) valve cover (1)
> - Spitfire/TR250/TR6 (good OE) rear main seal housing (2)
> - Spitfire MK1-3 (very nice) steering column mount/brackets set (1)
> - Spitfire (good used) 3/4? sway bar
> - MK1 Spitfire (good used) Gauge Dash panel - metal, not wood! (1)
> - TS Imported New Clutch plate - (10 spline - Spit)  (1)
> - Grant (Good used) 11.5? steering wheel (1)
> - MK2-MK3 Spitfire (very nice OE) Tachometer (1)
> 
> I would like all these parts to go to a good home and to be put in use again!!  PM me with if interested.
> 
> Thanks, Terry 
>> 
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Sat Jul 17 11:16:08 2021
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 17:16:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 for sale
Message-ID: <DM6PR04MB4540823CB76917E715675587B4109@DM6PR04MB4540.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

A friend of mine, knows old cars but not Triumphs, is helping a wife whose husband died, sell this tr4. He has no idea how much to ask for it. I can get more info on it, but if know it is not running right now.

If anyone has some ideas or is interested I can get you in touch with him.

The car is in Pittsburgh, PA

Thanks
Mike

Michael T. Moore, CPA
3255 West 26th Street
Erie, PA 16506

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 14:54:57 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:54:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Podium of Triumph
Message-ID: <2559E915-E95E-4566-9ACD-96852059BAFA@gmail.com>

GT6.  TR4,  Spitfire.   Good weekend at Brainerd.  Portland next.

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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sun Jul 18 21:57:11 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 20:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Podium of Triumph
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References: <2559E915-E95E-4566-9ACD-96852059BAFA@gmail.com>
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Excellent!  Congratulations to the Triumph gang.  I recognize Sean, who are the others?
Dave H.

> On 07/18/2021 1:54 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> GT6.  TR4,  Spitfire.   Good weekend at Brainerd.  Portland next.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jul 22 09:44:58 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:44:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
Message-ID: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>

I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68 GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to tell for sure with them installed.

Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 09:49:05 2021
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:49:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
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References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
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Scott,
       Mk3 GT6 and Mk4/1500 Spitfires use different glass than the earlier
GT6's.

I think the GT6 mk1 and plus may share the same glass with the TR4-6

Jason

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I
> may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of
> the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68
> GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to
> tell for sure with them installed.
>
> Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
> _______________________________________________
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 10:22:55 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:22:55 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
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Scott, a trick I use for interchangeability is look up the stock part
number at Rimmer Bros. and compare it to the "new" model in question.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128
Mk1 and MK2 (GT6+) are the same part number.

mike

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I
> may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of
> the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68
> GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to
> tell for sure with them installed.
>
> Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
> _______________________________________________
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 10:27:48 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:27:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
 <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVYrL-VoxWHPy07xhMw2VbOF_GQn8BYe5_yYCs+DXzqWNg@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot to add the link to the round tail Spitfire parts
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005867

The windshield is the same, PN 906707CLEAR, for all of them.

mike h

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott, a trick I use for interchangeability is look up the stock part
> number at Rimmer Bros. and compare it to the "new" model in question.
> https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128
> Mk1 and MK2 (GT6+) are the same part number.
>
> mike
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I
>> may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of
>> the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68
>> GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to
>> tell for sure with them installed.
>>
>> Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jul 22 10:52:22 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:52:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVYrL-VoxWHPy07xhMw2VbOF_GQn8BYe5_yYCs+DXzqWNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
 <CAO0FjVa_wicHGjgqWx6eeyQEN8cmnAUwRo-=b8C2CCsG0yis6g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAO0FjVYrL-VoxWHPy07xhMw2VbOF_GQn8BYe5_yYCs+DXzqWNg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A331FB72-D006-4280-9626-753A5898DDE5@me.com>

good idea! Moss shows the same, actually lists the cars from ?62-?70 as all using the same windshield - Spit, GT6, Tr4-250-6

On Jul 22, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com> wrote:

I forgot to add the link to the round tail Spitfire parts
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005867 <https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005867>

The windshield is the same, PN 906707CLEAR, for all of them.

mike h

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Harmuth <ofracer at gmail.com <mailto:ofracer at gmail.com>> wrote:
Scott, a trick I use for interchangeability is look up the stock part number at Rimmer Bros. and compare it to the "new" model in question.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128 <https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID008128>
Mk1 and MK2 (GT6+) are the same part number.

mike 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I?m thinking about swapping out my windshield for a polycarbonate one.  I may have to ship the company one to get it made.  I?ve heard that most of the Triumph windshields are the same, and it certainly appears that the 68 GT6 and my 69 TR6 have the same windshield, dimensionally, but it?s hard to tell for sure with them installed.

Does anyone know, across GT6, Spitfire, Tr4-Tr6?
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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Jul 22 11:11:58 2021
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:11:58 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Triumph windshield interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
References: <CE62AD38-0688-4735-93E9-50FBDBE01161@me.com>
Message-ID: <8a15a4e4-6273-5124-2b7a-9d75df744741@bradakis.com>

Yes, the TR4, 4A, 250, 6, and roundtail Spits and GT6 are all the same.

mjb.




From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul 23 18:06:42 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:06:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spark Plugs
Message-ID: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>

I've been using NGK-BP6ES plugs in my TR6, and am having a difficult 
time finding them. I am also having difficulty finding Champion N9YC 
plugs. It seems that non-resistor plugs are tough to find, and if you 
do, the price is outrageous.

Looking for leads on where to find the above plugs, or suggestions on 
alternatives.

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Jul 23 20:07:50 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 22:07:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spark Plugs
In-Reply-To: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>
References: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <BC0C58A3-DAC2-4FEB-83C0-C1F2DE560434@me.com>

Looks like advance auto and some eBay suppliers have them for about $2.25 each

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? I've been using NGK-BP6ES plugs in my TR6, and am having a difficult time finding them. I am also having difficulty finding Champion N9YC plugs. It seems that non-resistor plugs are tough to find, and if you do, the price is outrageous. 
> 
> Looking for leads on where to find the above plugs, or suggestions on alternatives.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Fri Jul 23 21:00:44 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:00:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spark Plugs
In-Reply-To: <001301d7802c$4053a960$c0fafc20$@wi.rr.com>
References: <2d6484ca-4552-2ddf-e0e7-bb6424817184@ptd.net>
 <001301d7802c$4053a960$c0fafc20$@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <7300273f-f7fe-f897-5a65-40050e050e7e@ptd.net>

One site describes the Champion 300 N9YC as resistor, and another as 
non-resistor; that is what is confusing. I always thought with a 
resistor plug, an 'R' was in the number.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353433976077?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D233149%26meid%3D310d80f20475439da7221ed44c8ae3bc%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D353276293525%26itm%3D353433976077%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseWithPLXWeb%26brand%3DChampion+Spark+Plug&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A353433976077310d80f20475439da7221ed44c8ae3bc%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAACELXFongyDDYBjt%252Bnb0VtFa36tNiT8kLcm%252FzJMpq71WhI%252BIQKWi5HBahPFbhED2bmS%252FUSu8q72Gv2FTAwRWuce5COAfe2mkuqhJe6ep8mXYpuK1uid27rtRJTnL8FG7TMBFC0jw5c%252BeBi4SBhtCGuyceUpu%252BCrqhlpDiBO1%252BWRcKfJd3bH9%252BmI8y1OC0hsjwpBCQuQuzLZurs5NOB0EWd7%252F29dT9p72SD4yyiErFa59I8mRzPhJKJYVngG1pDOTP%252FFLQBh5xbLAEsFlDFCeWHc7vfU3U6RN%252BEOJcFeGXOa943hoaeQ2yK9oczX%252FfxLAXeGlFRY78Ns87wjh%252FxdbVrelt1A4pK7GXHBe%252BEs80P0NtuLmY0BoGXZjuk03dIESOz%252BQY690RhPpmr3mTECzraY%252BwOUEVVJEqwkIlkqJ%252FqBTzATWkog0b7Ju041GPIW8%252FfZ5rIvmZOSK5U%252FmqgfifxN%252BBM0Wbin87T3jZzBp4h%252FcvIfqwHp1nvbVTcR4IPQbM1BPOIFFOLQIft5LQA2oaR9bRhLFpPElJ7rbB4z0EN2xEHMFBsOPsq27MMmDGXp3r2mwSz21TNW6C2YzIVd1iWZ7teiqR39JTdbdpLpYY6D54jl%252BAvwAlKq7vwLrdsL6dRru9aSq96uJyOoBGUcYK%252BB%252BUookSmACXlVKf1GvwtOa%252FD9IQi8vytPR6u592H2rhbUg%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675&epid=81198061

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Non-Resistor-Copper-Plug-Champion-Spark-Plug-300-/353276293525

It's hard to imagine that one site would sell them for $2.99 and on 
another site $16.79, but then who knows.

Thanks for bearing with me.

Mike






On 7/23/2021 9:35 PM, tr4 at wi.rr.com wrote:
>
> SparkPlugs.com: N9YC $2.99 Champion 300 Spark Plug - Best Car 
> SparkPlug Replacement 
> <https://www.sparkplugs.com/champion-300-n9yc-nickel-spark-plug>
>
> How about $2.99 each and nearly 100 in stock.
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Finishing 
> Touch via Fot
> *Sent:* Friday, July 23, 2021 7:07 PM
> *To:* fot at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Fot] Spark Plugs
>
> I've been using NGK-BP6ES plugs in my TR6, and am having a difficult 
> time finding them. I am also having difficulty finding Champion N9YC 
> plugs. It seems that non-resistor plugs are tough to find, and if you 
> do, the price is outrageous.
>
> Looking for leads on where to find the above plugs, or suggestions on 
> alternatives.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
>

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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 14:29:11 2021
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 14:29:11 -0600
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Auto_parts_funnies=E2=80=A6?=
References: <1DF03346-108A-4B31-A65E-50BDCBBBBBC6.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1DF03346-108A-4B31-A65E-50BDCBBBBBC6@yahoo.com>

Many years ago I needed a TR water pump quick. Tried NAPA - no listing? Asked them to check a ?58 Ferguson TO20 tractor and Bingo! they had it on the shelf!
Today I needed a oil filter for the ?58 Fergie TO20. No listing - only for a TO35. Had him try a ?58 TR3 and Bingo! #1302 and on the shelf. Go figure?
Have fun in Portland! Sorry to say that yet again I?m going to miss the call to grid.
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM


From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 15:42:08 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:42:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] I Know it's not Portland, but...
References: <1712476111.855833.1627162928479.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1712476111.855833.1627162928479@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
A few of us Triumphisti were at PittRace last weekend for the PVGP Historics. We mostly made it through the rain and other challenges, but here's the Sunday AM "medium bore" race from my car. Henry any Scott were right behind me at the end. Great fun.
2021 PittRace Sunday Feature

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 10:40:29 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 09:40:29 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
Message-ID: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>

Inquiring minds would like to know.

Chuck


From emanteno at comcast.net  Sun Jul 25 12:18:10 2021
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:18:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
References: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff Quick
TR4 #51

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Inquiring minds would like to know.
>
> Chuck
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 12:23:11 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:23:11 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
 <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJRV2eZh_Mgk320ym2Se5KwB-6Y5BpLWR0=4GdRoTn4hmcYXYw@mail.gmail.com>

Irv beat me to it.

Between Eric and I, we have over 10,000 photos to go through, but once I
do, I will post the link here on the list.

I have some video and footage on my Facebook page, North American Triumphs
and will have much more when I get back to Iowa.

Check out North American Triumphs here:
www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 11:19 AM Irv Korey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Jeff Quick
> TR4 #51
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Inquiring minds would like to know.
>>
>> Chuck
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 14:56:22 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 13:56:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E3D88DB5-F646-4E27-B930-67686EF8C611@gmail.com>

Congrats Jeff!

Thanks,

Chuck

> On Jul 25, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Irv Korey <emanteno at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Jeff Quick
> TR4 #51
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Inquiring minds would like to know.
>> 
>> Chuck
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sun Jul 25 15:17:08 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 14:17:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] So who won the Kastner Cup?
In-Reply-To: <CAJRV2eZh_Mgk320ym2Se5KwB-6Y5BpLWR0=4GdRoTn4hmcYXYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C28D9E2-3735-47CC-973D-BC90B6981DED@gmail.com>
 <CAFWFMygM4nEb4LVqc+g3FBRK51Z+iF+PetFi-pouSFW0xOKMBA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJRV2eZh_Mgk320ym2Se5KwB-6Y5BpLWR0=4GdRoTn4hmcYXYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <232528897.192533.1627247828605@connect.xfinity.com>

Thanks guys.  Congratulations Jeff!  
The group photo shows a really nice turnout.  
I'll look forward to seeing some videos.
Dave H.

>     On 07/25/2021 11:23 AM Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>      
>      
>     Irv beat me to it. 
>      
>     Between Eric and I, we have over 10,000 photos to go through, but once I do, I will post the link here on the list. 
>      
>     I have some video and footage on my Facebook page, North American Triumphs and will have much more when I get back to Iowa.
>      
>     Check out North American Triumphs here:http://www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
>      
> 
>     Shawn Frank
>     The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
>     North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
>     Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
>     Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
>     Iowa British Car Club
>     FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
>     Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
>     515-339-4228
> 
>     On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 11:19 AM Irv Korey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
>         > >         Jeff Quick
> >         TR4 #51
> > 
> >         On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:40 AM Chuck Gee via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > 
> >             > > > Inquiring minds would like to know.
> > > 
> > >             Chuck
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From rick.parent at att.net  Sun Jul 25 16:03:17 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 22:03:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup results
References: <315947967.1027820.1627250597794.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Rick Parent
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sun Jul 25 17:05:32 2021
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 18:05:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
Message-ID: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>

Guys,

Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point. 

The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam. 

Thanks

Greg

Sent from my iPhone

From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 25 17:42:06 2021
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (James Palmer)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:42:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
References: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>

Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love to follow along!

Jamie Palmer


> On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Guys,
> 
> Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point. 
> 
> The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Greg
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 18:53:05 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:53:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
References: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
 <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAL43nSmBgjBPfEk4Owmzbrdr5SZYjBVj1PfzzB4oFJmKwFaxFA@mail.gmail.com>

This is a fascinating concept. Triumph endurance! ;)

Brian Dolan

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:42 PM James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love
> to follow along!
>
> Jamie Palmer
>
>
> > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Guys,
> >
> > Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to
> port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a
> base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point.
> >
> > The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From seacubeco at aol.com  Sun Jul 25 18:56:03 2021
From: seacubeco at aol.com (Christopher)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:56:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <C52E8521-E423-44D2-852F-DA21CB3F95EF@yahoo.com>
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Guys,  

I don?t have a fuel map or any other information but I have seen on YouTube that someone did a home made fuel injection on a mgb (I think). 

Another management system is speedurino.  

I hope this helps

Chris. 

> On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:42 PM, James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love to follow along!
> 
> Jamie Palmer
> 
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Guys,
>> 
>> Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point. 
>> 
>> The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 06:35:40 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 07:35:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
In-Reply-To: <CAL43nSmBgjBPfEk4Owmzbrdr5SZYjBVj1PfzzB4oFJmKwFaxFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A9737DE4-6521-4847-A15D-ADEDDA119016@icloud.com>
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 <CAL43nSmBgjBPfEk4Owmzbrdr5SZYjBVj1PfzzB4oFJmKwFaxFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWvc19YsRAjufxZL9=f=i=q1E5T5HwFF-4ODkS92GW8AmQ@mail.gmail.com>

We've done pretty well over the years, right up until we didn't. I'm pretty
sure we finished more than we DNF'd, but I have selective memory issues and
haven't been on every race team. We've had a few big failures overall, but
mechanically the car is up to it.  We did have a ring and pinion fail at
COTA. That could happen on the highway. That was years after we smoked a
diff early on in the summer heat at TWS before we realized that GL4 is
great for 20 minute vintage races but not for 8 hours straight. The heat
melted the poly diff mounts!  Aggressive dives are to be avoided as more
modern cars have us both on the acceleration and the braking. The front end
of a fiberglassed fendered TR6 is no match for the right rear 1/4 of a BMW
M3. More recently a 50 year old rocker called it quits. I'm sure there are
other fails I have blocked out.

Most of our problems can be traced back to our Lemon's roots and our build
it out of the scrap bin mentality. The wheels are hand me down American
Racing slots and we have more than once forgotten the fact that we needed
wheel spacers or the shouldered nuts would bottom out. We had to clean out
the repurposed fuel cell to remove disintegrating foam at the first race.
Street gas is different than race fuel. Over a decade later we have a
decent engine (about to become more responsive to throttle input), a close
ratio J-type, CV joint rear axles, fiberglass fenders and doors, and a very
trick removable front 1/2 clip from the BMW wars. We also found a couple of
TR6 manuals that list the TR6 as having a 13.5 gallon fuel tank.  I have
never been able to put much more than 11 in a stock tank, but whatever, the
rules allow us 2 gallon over stock specs and since we are counting the 71"
TR6 inner fender expansion tank as another 1/2 gallon we are putting in a
16 gallon fuel cell.  We figure we are good for 2 hour stints. At least the
car is.

Bob Kramer


On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:53 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> This is a fascinating concept. Triumph endurance! ;)
>
> Brian Dolan
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:42 PM James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love
>> to follow along!
>>
>> Jamie Palmer
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?Guys,
>> >
>> > Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to
>> port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a
>> base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point.
>> >
>> > The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 06:50:29 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 08:50:29 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 port injection on Microsquirt
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That?s awesome and terrific dedication.

We keep breaking stub axles.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 8:36 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> We've done pretty well over the years, right up until we didn't. I'm
> pretty sure we finished more than we DNF'd, but I have selective memory
> issues and haven't been on every race team. We've had a few big failures
> overall, but mechanically the car is up to it.  We did have a ring and
> pinion fail at COTA. That could happen on the highway. That was years after
> we smoked a diff early on in the summer heat at TWS before we realized that
> GL4 is great for 20 minute vintage races but not for 8 hours straight. The
> heat melted the poly diff mounts!  Aggressive dives are to be avoided as
> more modern cars have us both on the acceleration and the braking. The
> front end of a fiberglassed fendered TR6 is no match for the right rear 1/4
> of a BMW M3. More recently a 50 year old rocker called it quits. I'm sure
> there are other fails I have blocked out.
>
> Most of our problems can be traced back to our Lemon's roots and our build
> it out of the scrap bin mentality. The wheels are hand me down American
> Racing slots and we have more than once forgotten the fact that we needed
> wheel spacers or the shouldered nuts would bottom out. We had to clean out
> the repurposed fuel cell to remove disintegrating foam at the first race.
> Street gas is different than race fuel. Over a decade later we have a
> decent engine (about to become more responsive to throttle input), a close
> ratio J-type, CV joint rear axles, fiberglass fenders and doors, and a very
> trick removable front 1/2 clip from the BMW wars. We also found a couple of
> TR6 manuals that list the TR6 as having a 13.5 gallon fuel tank.  I have
> never been able to put much more than 11 in a stock tank, but whatever, the
> rules allow us 2 gallon over stock specs and since we are counting the 71"
> TR6 inner fender expansion tank as another 1/2 gallon we are putting in a
> 16 gallon fuel cell.  We figure we are good for 2 hour stints. At least the
> car is.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:53 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This is a fascinating concept. Triumph endurance! ;)
>>
>> Brian Dolan
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:42 PM James Palmer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Greg, as someone who is also building a TR6 endurance race car, I?d love
>>> to follow along!
>>>
>>> Jamie Palmer
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > ?Guys,
>>> >
>>> > Bob Kramer and I are converting the Texas endurance race car over to
>>> port fuel injection. Was wondering if anyone in this group might have a
>>> base fuel and an ignition map they can share as a starting point.
>>> >
>>> > The car has 10:1 compression and a Good Parts GP3 cam.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Greg
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
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>>> > fot at autox.team.net
>>> >
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Jul 26 07:34:02 2021
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Redmond)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:34:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR3a Head light trim
Message-ID: <1964092769.116554.1627306442731@mymail.optimum.net>

Friends,


Does anyone have a set of the deeper head light trim rings that they'd be willing to part with?  They don't have to be perfect, just usable.

1958 TR3a TS 29341

Thanks for listening

Todd
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From vfracing at aol.com  Mon Jul 26 08:05:01 2021
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 10:05:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3a Head light trim
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Todd.
I have some rings. Could off a ?57 or a ?65 4A. How would I recognize them?
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2021, at 9:34 AM, Redmond via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Friends,
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a set of the deeper head light trim rings that they'd be willing to part with?  They don't have to be perfect, just usable.
> 
> 1958 TR3a TS 29341
> 
> Thanks for listening
> 
> Todd
> 
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 08:38:38 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 07:38:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
Message-ID: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>

I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 

First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 

Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 

Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.

Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8

Bill Babcock
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 08:55:56 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 07:55:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
Message-ID: <611CFF8A-FC1C-4B9B-9F1E-6ED2B3DD1BFB@gmail.com>

You?re a class act Bill, nicely done.  We will all miss seeing you pilot the Petote!

Thanks,

Chuck

> On Jul 27, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> 
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> 
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> 
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> 
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Tue Jul 27 09:45:48 2021
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:45:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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ust
All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).? ? The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.? It must have been quite the experience for Curt.? ??
as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'.?hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)
best?
Mordy?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2

I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones.?
First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt.?
Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car.?
Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <1246164974.144176.1627400748988@mail.yahoo.com>
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <1246164974.144176.1627400748988@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <888D106019314BE896B9D11BEEF6B26F@Charly>

I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

  MDunst
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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Message-ID: <A0857D5D46A74025921B28E1D5160A3A@Charly>

I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Jul 27 09:49:52 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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I was right behind the both of them, quite an experience for me!!  The back of the TR7 must have been at least a foot off the pavement.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mordy Dunst via Fot 
  To: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  ust


  All good reasons Bill - (not that you need any).    The tr7 lifted and unsettled going over the track bump.  It must have been quite the experience for Curt.    


  as we all know we are typically just the interim custodians of our "Cars'. hopefully the new custodian will give the peyote the love it deserves. (Why did they call it Peyote ?)


  best 


  Mordy 

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  To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
  Cc: Joe Alexander <n197tr4 at cs.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 7:41 am
  Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2


  I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 


  First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 


  Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 


  Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.


  Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8


  Bill Babcock
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue Jul 27 10:02:43 2021
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 12:02:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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And THATS why this is called the gentlemen?s sport.   Well done Bill!!



> On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> 
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> 
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> 
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> 
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
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> https://www.Ponostyle.com
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 10:35:57 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:35:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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Bill, may I use this in publication?

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 9:41 AM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the
> Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was
> running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water
> temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten
> more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones.
>
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I
> mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it
> too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his
> position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by
> him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into
> race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the
> straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish
> and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while
> I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a
> long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so
> just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make
> good. It was a legitimate win for Curt.
>
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a
> great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to
> work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start
> his relationship with a great car.
>
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who
> can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced
> more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a
> third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched
> way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands
> of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my
> last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car
> deserves better.
>
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
>
> *Bill Babcock*
> *Beach Bum*
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 10:36:52 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:36:52 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <CAJRV2ea_WwwWYccrzGE_xPA=vTP7Gd4E80vpUG7HycvzQjsRpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <34D3D54B-10A6-4D4F-BD0F-D65858CA5281@gmail.com>

Sure. 

> On Jul 27, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Shawn Frank <continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Bill, may I use this in publication?
> 
> Shawn Frank
> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
> Iowa British Car Club
> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
> 515-339-4228
> 
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 9:41 AM Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> 
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> 
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> 
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> 
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8 <https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8>
> 
> Bill Babcock
> Beach Bum
> bill at ponostyle.com <mailto:bill at ponostyle.com>
> https://www.Ponostyle.com <https://www.ponostyle.com/>
> 
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Tue Jul 27 17:22:04 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:22:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <D254D588-356D-4309-BCF1-739F5419F0BD@optonline.net>
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <D254D588-356D-4309-BCF1-739F5419F0BD@optonline.net>
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Bill,

I don't believe I deserved the win, but I'll pay it forward at some future date!  It was a totally unexpected thrill that I'll never forget.  Thank you Bill!

As everyone may be aware I had problems with the TR8 all weekend.  I only got about 14 hot laps on a new track for me.  So I stepped into the TR7 without the proper preparation for the race.  I knew I had to go deep into the corner to maintain the lead, but Oh Sh......I totally cooked it into the corner.  I left you with no other choice than run off track.  It was my fault, so I didn't feel you needed to give back the spot.

I agree with the comment below; well done Bill.  I owe someone a favor in return!

Curt Johnston 

>     On 07/27/2021 9:02 AM Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>      
>      
>     And THATS why this is called the gentlemen?s sport.   Well done Bill!!
>      
>      
> 
> 
>         > > On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >     > 
>         > >         I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones. 
> >          
> >         First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make good. It was a legitimate win for Curt. 
> >          
> >         Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start his relationship with a great car. 
> >          
> >         Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car deserves better.
> >          
> >         Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
> >          
> >         Bill Babcock
> >         Beach Bum
> >         bill at ponostyle.com mailto:bill at ponostyle.com
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 09:22:37 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:22:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
Message-ID: <CAJRV2eYGWnecr_K8bx_rPnLXVPP-o+p4PCzME=ZoC9UzsJKiMw@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR. Accredit
the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our Kastner Cup
Champion, Jeff Quick!

Dropbox link with doc and photos...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0

Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
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From jhassall at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 09:42:39 2021
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 11:42:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
In-Reply-To: <CAJRV2eYGWnecr_K8bx_rPnLXVPP-o+p4PCzME=ZoC9UzsJKiMw@mail.gmail.com>
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Great job, as usual, tnx Shawn

?
jim    W4BEA
Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR. Accredit the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our Kastner Cup Champion, Jeff Quick!
> 
> Dropbox link with doc and photos...
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0
> 
> Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
> 
> 
> Shawn Frank
> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
> Iowa British Car Club
> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
> 515-339-4228
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 10:45:16 2021
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:45:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
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 Thanks, Shawn!? Excellent work!? Congrats to Jeff Quick (great name) and all the winners!-- Jay De Pol
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2021 11:22 am
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report

Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR. Accredit the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our Kastner Cup Champion, Jeff Quick!
Dropbox link with doc and photos...https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0
Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
Shawn Frank
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North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 11:11:21 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 12:11:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
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That name will look good on the trophy!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 11:46 AM Jay De Pol via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks, Shawn!  Excellent work!  Congrats to Jeff Quick (great name) and
> all the winners!-- Jay De Pol
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2021 11:22 am
> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup report
>
> Here is a short report that I did for social media as well as VTR.
> Accredit the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients as well as our
> Kastner Cup Champion, Jeff Quick!
>
> Dropbox link with doc and photos...
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ka7xj1fx5noz3x6/AACFBxXNpXV4QXmyRVV0fmmLa?dl=0
> Also on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs
>
> Shawn Frank
> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
> Iowa British Car Club
> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Jul 29 07:39:57 2021
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 07:39:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
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On 7/27/21 8:38 AM, Ponostyle via Fot wrote:
>
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8 
> <https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8>
>
>

Now if this happened in a Spec Miata race, there would have been 
bloodshed in the pits.


mjb.




From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Jul 29 08:56:50 2021
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 07:56:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Kastner Cup Awarded, Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners,
 Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
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It's good to see this prominent announcement and article in my email this morning and thought I should share it.
Cheers,
Dave H.

>     ---------- Original Message ----------
>     From: Vintage Motorsport Magazine <info at vintagemotorsport.com>
>     To: dlhogye at comcast.net
>     Date: 07/29/2021 7:05 AM
>     Subject: Kastner Cup Awarded, Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners, Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
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>      
>     Vintage Motorsport eNews
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>     07.29.2021 | Editors: Scott and Cyndi Paceley
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>     View in Browser www.vintagemotorsport.com https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc0MdiLxOaY0wcnIW_ozpnN4DNBrw1Xfz4mnSg6PbE_AQ3bMgLe-X4-bitU80u4UlKOUYs0paCZTlD4wrgBAANhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Kastner Cup Goes to Jeff Quick https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKgWHGdohH1v9Mt7BkuQcpOVfhKJYToXeEqO8EMVLwJVOc7haD4JDGoIDZpw5Zy_KQJuz1C9J9eZc5IMeLlUR9lKfSpm1AyyRaGaWe72leEn4qAGksvcy_ruJ98o-NboGzzXraHHOekyQmDqY7iQewXM=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     2021 Kastner Cup awardee Jeff Quick (front) with his Triumph mates. Photo: North American Triumphs
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>     Portland, OR -- Last Saturday?s 19th Kastner Cup vintage race at Portland International Raceway -- the first without its co-founder and namesake https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKq5NtTZ8CW0LhXk2zWS9DbWbjBmlCT-kllfvGLTF5GqeZl1HTpKoiTfmf1kHE2g9ECl93bVZik35vtHD-_3bpwAkIEilZ-SgvxagVg-wSu1AWY9FN0VkTzTjAU1CpnHRt-EaA2wirg_m8pdvuxLLfhmZVgrw8uLcqNQx9_3grdGC&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== who passed away in April ? was a fitting tribute to the late R.W. ?Kas? Kastner.
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>     Read more at VintageMotorsport.com https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcK6dRyIsmCRFhiI7SAxvUCYGeSpIYCy_GHYzXMg4GicVqkxZAua2IM18uDidyqjmljfx2gyzpUFkq-sfZulCOMCcu7JIZEbVBxIYMkvocDTyZ66p5jVVMk3pVGDqnlceA_ZUiTr1swpSYOINzkfMaRg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Over 200 Cars Already Confirmed for Woodward Dream Show
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>     Photo: Woodward Dream Show
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>     Pontiac, MI ? Car entries are still being accepted https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc69ZBfuBE8W4_VGz-LnTP4wpVESzNcdobf2LD5DeSm8fGnIVieG76_QmSvcWFmiCJDzLPoQMZ8rz7PVL4raN-wACM1yPWTG5wK3cyV4GwkIbVTU3HcKefmw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== for the Aug. 20 Woodward Dream Show at the M1 Concourse, and organizers hope to generously exceed the current roster of 200-plus cars.
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>     Read the full story, including videos with two car owners, on VintageMotorsport.com https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcWNdrNQA2FKHtXwmbgtr7XbkKHEIakHeYuuORLpR2zUHKWSJRe8bohZrg1n89ttzvOJlMa2a9YQKnq-g83GaHXrYAxLKvr_dW2RH_IE4bi4d1KPxiZaP-1klMXfJcFXr4qifSpjClcJ_qELKbFK2bmGZcAu_C1ASEQ5uTwFITAOo=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== . https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKpgWsJkGlYJBCpkV76-jAJWdLkvy-DNxFdzPBvikmT57ZKWdJAk8owFZ4fIhFJXDg-P0jpOu-8ZRPW8yevvmz94P_gcHvOlQLY2b9H8Su5avp64AO3RtziSV_N7UZ2kpGUv8-umTv3L0QXX2YxNp_4h1_IQnPu_vA2k2jm1Mi4tSKntw9aQS9gzPM-8aJgxsQRrL2DNOQ3YsjLrGZKJ0UeUoIerW03DWjA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     ICYMI: Sept. 23 RRDC Dinner Will Fete Rick Mears https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Scott LePage/Motorsport Images
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>     RACER colleague Marshall Pruett brings the good news that the Road Racing Drivers Club dinner, an annual event that has been part of the Long Beach Grand Prix weekend for more than a decade, is returning. This year?s honoree is Rick Mears.
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>     Read the full story on VintageMotorsport.com. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcLzqGkDy_NoQxd4PVQWoFDPDxUqpbz2WFG9hnFEaU8bxxTTzznOutg7IYLbyUy1hV6h39GPv95V-Tl9xJKQ7LqOcgtDKJZXeDT-u0FYH_I7D1hW5sMFAmE8xbcIodlSmGYyGzxKbqu7sPNrSbzcyRAIUhhF2YjbZaxa081PuYJmNkyysVf1Yykg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Revolant? Will Offer Jim Clark Retrospective https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     The event will offer an upclose look at the Lotus Type 34 . Photo: Bonhams Auctions
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>     Carmel, IN ? Revolant?, part of the Aug. 27-29 Artomobilia weekend https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcErcD8clyvhNO_h5ZzbOdKIjGQfa28MN8o5a8pKQrwQA4wDlZqT71ISqqfQBzX-umiSM8a0QOOfDPnqYY-zjgUpfMHgSRJD7v7rpK2EG3B4Q=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that features the Shift Road Rally, Fuelicious, Artomobilia and more, will donate 100% of ticketed revenue to programming support for the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum.
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>     Set for Aug. 29, the idea behind Revolant? is the celebration of revolutionary automotive machinery, their visionary designers and the courageous drivers that have influenced road and race cars. What better place to do that than near the Racing Capital of the World?
>      
>     An amazing collection of cars in a variety of featured and specialty classes https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc7td3tqcgUz764NXBUykkf1hMsw6hdZ5VdDLJ8Q6RaAKY2lje-c2pedL1737xIMx8zWlyUEXXjuNeQRlWSbp7Ow9AXKp_j6tVdwW5zWYhhX4=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== ? including three eras of Indianapolis pace cars -- will be displayed on the grounds of the Bridgewater Golf Club https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcnT35mh4u4HyFQIfoeOCFs7f9Qafne4z9fzioBhxn0cDk2fdZAqY0pPDRpcCGQyZGoGXwRZhYypKvCe0Fx4HCSVTT8ox69LsG&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== in Carmel, Indiana. Among the highlights will be the event?s retrospective on Jim Clark and the Lotus Type 34, showing how the superior handling of a lightweight, rear-engine chassis redefined performance on the track.
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>     Artomobilia had announced in August 2019 that Revolant? would make its event debut in 2020, but the entire weekend was canceled. Purchase VIP or regular guest tickets. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcY8eyCopwXTI1zS2WbgWU_O9PW9ZZ6efOHRHMDW-98cr3QJjwCZkcQ8ue7DXUGVnpTlOk5WJhhfqzXLGAUchc6UbKrYP5p0oGgq_LFb1ha4U=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     FYI, the Aug. 28 Artomobilia https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcAsKcTpCeFfy6t-zWHDnaCAH8hRTgOvIKX5ScQPaUNXk0_nlFuGgYPpQCejK3xcmnmP2lWvFYaiDXiDFhJi0Oq-pb3KxdRwvXN-nlFwvTcg8=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== event in the Carmel Arts & Design District now includes car exhibits open to BMW, Lotus and Porsche. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcSe-JHLY4m_E_RWMXxwvRorqKsMsk4yCBgM3emAa6QWq-BcFzx64rYdA4-TdzL-shlDH7abbIDb3dzIVt1YWLBGqxa7Y4yX9c&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Monterey Momentum: Mecum Auction Preview
>      
>     Walworth, WI ? Among the newest additions to Mecum?s 600-car lineup for its Aug. 12-14 Daytime Auction at the Hyatt Regency Monterey Hotel and Spa is a group of three Shelby American cars.
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>     First is a 1967 Shelby 427 ?Semi Competition? Cobra https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchf4XezBwh8W1tWI7F5Li2iOhdmo7Eh7qqTLk-pdpKKt9yZ4IjjSwyyoNFWBt7otOoXpywEswwDYMqNO51RSVb0zYtoLyI1tAePNpGcUOj2l2Sr5huk9uftgBzm72BouQiu1aiwjoXhPtBOxf5B14lLf_xvHOmQ97beUsANPi-6yRDXgJ48vazE7-lSGJyHJU20KpDwIFMx04m6vwc_Ony7NVhyC2bcAeSVZsqseHjf5xtCRHQLa5lN6RJZ-B_emrD1qgGojr8Ldo29e9JCcHhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== , one of only 29 427 Cobra S/Cs built, and restored by Robin Automotive in Northern California. The celebrated car has won numerous awards throughout its lifetime, including first place in Competition Shelby Popular Vote at SAAC-5, a Gold Award at the 1998 SAAC Convention and Best Cobra and Best Comp Cobra at the 1999 SAAC meet in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
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>     Next is SFM5R538 https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc8WEHqJL1214QElJkL3qZIEbv64PA5V39jGga91USx9BHT8D-ALy70LwmIf6NTMJ3UMZUvfip7gsE4CUDDUBWbQxtXI5ck8vF3pzk7zn14W7O8A6hafPg-o5Kw7JxXuYsJwBrSjtEX5JPBMoKURHgVlgHjBy_Lz1ut38J0DNQl5Eb1Bt2Mdl6hea6LbL6Q7qqqatTcZGnovD57D73WQVy5EvYPUrphnza4vP_rd83EijXjaZV3-dlos6YhMtmBTFTUz_q3roXZxE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== , the winningest 1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback ever. One of only 36 factory competition models ever built, it claimed the SCCA Southeast Divisional Championship under original owner Roger West before making 54 starts with 42 finishes and 32 wins under the tutelage of second owner Charlie Kemp and Crew Chief Pete Hood, including a run of 17 straight victories between 1968 and 1969.
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>     And CSX2495, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc3hfMDMo_7W89le0YFn_U3uOjZzffZMhDer_MQlmV04PCZIqPFlGxIrDQGTtUTVKeq5sztRNrJUjonJo9w4PBBWoa2wKWHOuSRbQz4n6jSMbSyCui4lsnj3HgMcdMXvXxW1bM18VMpp8Lc0hijrzzqvNNG_CqWSerDbEasWaBzEy_G_EDRnzpuKQ4ZCeBdKjkgYvE_1Xbk2guRWsyNKfbqSuGFtciTDLVq-LEIlla1KslLGnxodfoCkjZIp7rXE2HR4K6f6DbDhE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== a 1965 Shelby 289 Cobra Roadster, was once owned by Jim Inglese, founder of the famous Inglese Induction Systems. In fact, Inglese?s foray into the tuning industry was allegedly inspired by this very car. While installing a set of Webers on CSX2495, Inglese ran into so much difficulty trying to get them to function properly, he decided to start an entire company dedicated to the process.
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>     These Shelbys join other star consignments that range from a 1936 Delahaye Type 135 Competition Court Teardrop Coupe, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCce85CxwRpIIu_FdvS4tleszziVEFCborLWq5JcKkYQ149lWh9swdwcHttP-benhauwibvvfHlBqYBZG9vBt6RAAy9stboiKxSMOUOYUfRqCRl2Cqk9PVABq_ZYuEjwD2JirztzxDg6HoS9qz8admf6OnNLfM_yV518oMRWiCA3n9D-yltqir8OhPDxfZjFLAKsaPiN9EAV-1Znp5gewA1vnY3Cmea7NQSdNdMYbmBCCNQfIpVQin9K26e77pZ5xBUZPjHCerH54FGdCutHgxs_w_sPaVD82OqyB1Y_sPHRds=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== a 1965 Ferrari 500 Superfast and a 1972 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchgni0Bb9duk5Db6qmDuovdFzEsA8OqctgvL3bixAcGKdYT_lNv0KwB1T9j8ZtYsRsk4sUWDQ5_ljfzNtAyTEgflFDSgWoDvEAeWWUH2pUenNDFrTwFIovGH4ZlSnHIWVjjuCWu0gyuNFl1fUESOfxkng1yhveNtWWk5AutFzsANSNVbkvzflHk5Y1AzbYg9t7Vij0Coiyq1hwWctJF2mSsbFceab5dJjOBiv5GzKvl_053eoq2zvC_oXidS55F79XfNBvcklJn4=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== to a 2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo and a 2014 Ferrari LaFerrari.
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>     Check out the full docket https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc-Qp3lQ2nwMxw9e-857thgsN97BSChlTDvHCBsS0iWb4RHNoBwZL2GoVSYUMESxlBwCv-6JWtfc3ZDPeFHyPcYayETqAtuELIq9bPPRsR1EmJNafDofbnjlnJiLLVvhw4&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that includes these favorites, and get the just-released digital catalogs for Friday https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcFqHEXRun1s2oo_8XKznxS-2qVbzxxJIWyeEw5P0GGts1I93h-O1SQkKAgBP0Qabgi3yKGz2QddQzKoJ7vcwc4Nbalgifeusv6S7W3i6SFGzFLy-ZrZCDgokL54UgK-z6gU_rTqsyUcAO_Jfra7F8zuzFBEOOXdXg&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== and Saturday. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcHlne7JXP3xMyit4DW7H07n6hh7JAvQfud00ZJv0XJb-WQ5w-EWBEIP0eK_GkKprxC9Y0NX_aPubo8eefdTk_IeQerDZobnuHRI8Cw9r5HY6zJDGWakDtIIoieo-o7pA7wvLkFYtcByKq1-tBaRd9wOMG8fg6RMtc&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcNbCkBi9tubPk43oeupX--C-w_MfvKg9cc0nDm_W0P9UHE_ctMBsD-XthECzzJ8O9qmd2-sFYSO0Z1rPVLmIMAReh75_z-ygxwtHkItBaAmI-HWGEOfRwLaNZIh7vMn9AD_d7H29uDR4xDRHSaVVHXyDvns9dpuLbuBEzPA0dH1c=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1968 Chevrolet Corvette SunRay-DX Racer https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcNbCkBi9tubPk43oeupX--C-w_MfvKg9cc0nDm_W0P9UHE_ctMBsD-XthECzzJ8O9qmd2-sFYSO0Z1rPVLmIMAReh75_z-ygxwtHkItBaAmI-HWGEOfRwLaNZIh7vMn9AD_d7H29uDR4xDRHSaVVHXyDvns9dpuLbuBEzPA0dH1c=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc5tyXodiV26qV8FhAErENvnE96xF6ugoSfhoEkGPIChcT1ntbmRi5XS1IUZ32lwx7HLOvAqiYb4zNnhaljAV1qbKOgrdALAv2FmCzCFSP3JEyzIg8uZ6oPGs353J6yQEtMbtAumGfovuAf3R_-_jkrgFSfRQAamEW&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1966 Ferrari 275 GTB/6C Long Nose https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc5tyXodiV26qV8FhAErENvnE96xF6ugoSfhoEkGPIChcT1ntbmRi5XS1IUZ32lwx7HLOvAqiYb4zNnhaljAV1qbKOgrdALAv2FmCzCFSP3JEyzIg8uZ6oPGs353J6yQEtMbtAumGfovuAf3R_-_jkrgFSfRQAamEW&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcx6bamEg5lqd3MI6ZdwDNbBFqVhsPIB66L2Na1nxjECXvOJMpNOLNCOIbPF5jgjxvrIdZ9NKD0lcT7gAX8XOC_NV-5mTEGh4PEMwXGN4MbROYyY2cwlvIh72lxu2OdYrS8QnuDwEtMLOfehEkQpi0CQIm1GqiiGGu&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1969 Chevrolet Corvette L88 Coupe https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcx6bamEg5lqd3MI6ZdwDNbBFqVhsPIB66L2Na1nxjECXvOJMpNOLNCOIbPF5jgjxvrIdZ9NKD0lcT7gAX8XOC_NV-5mTEGh4PEMwXGN4MbROYyY2cwlvIh72lxu2OdYrS8QnuDwEtMLOfehEkQpi0CQIm1GqiiGGu&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc4p81gY4zxJQH432D0wqy3BTmvCMcxTNXsIt3m6UD-14HlZxEl6VIzMdFHUSXoF0CpV_im0bujkRlHtQhFowSxK33DPn3zPfyntMDnB9SlvZHX5_c7WmVSmu13V8jKvm55ogN0QU45njU4WG6zXxsQA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     1952 Ferrari 340 America https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc4p81gY4zxJQH432D0wqy3BTmvCMcxTNXsIt3m6UD-14HlZxEl6VIzMdFHUSXoF0CpV_im0bujkRlHtQhFowSxK33DPn3zPfyntMDnB9SlvZHX5_c7WmVSmu13V8jKvm55ogN0QU45njU4WG6zXxsQA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKv0ckNxkj1alZgcVfKDbHxHcEAQrz6yeOCABd4bLfzF5wRLLqhcI61Qjn_XaBVWd3UdP49foWdkxd0tUO2_F1P9uv8UsRrRpOf0ISidbhNCaDioJMD8LtQE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Museum News: Events and Exhibits https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKi8-Ph-1WSMSN20EFtTmxVfKxiDhtyMoFugqEMZ9tuqcE8F3HQWU-Sm0d6WXlLS1K7Hsqnw9ON0bCEjvEhkkDpPRJfQ4H_RTEdTfNGq1yeCFslEkdGXkgYdVPWuSNqjLRZH6F6bgJIS0X41kotEcv1ZMYBUowmsakSjBbHlgsoXitfDmOfeTWCyPd40zot_KKw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Museum of Modern Art
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>     The Museum of Modern Art?s Automania https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCckRcy4d-bRvnREE7nLUirpIApy3qoPrnCxLa5PlGa-pJvGzHXlmDNWEKfbT_d2bcct5xvAiAryJZVdHqh1a8b98QUz_GAoJrS7E1Xey27v_Tflms7Zr-5Dg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== exhibit has been open for a little over three weeks after the opening was postponed from last year. See cars from an art perspective in the display that runs through Jan. 2. Part of the exhibit is in the museum?s outdoor Sculpture Garden until Oct. 11.
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>     The Antique Automobile Club of America Museum will again host its largest annual event, Night at the Museum, https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcWncr8PV9RKVgluXBhTtYNY-sAatNUglfQdFDf1MPDdthCNyME0sLZI6fmSJrMiVBWPU3IzSEK7pkkPK-BV_RsaJwmK-BZinU-OO_WzSwg7FRtxxiqj_USw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== on Oct. 6. The event will honor the museum?s 2021 Automotive Heritage Award honoree Jim Schmidt. The annual fundraiser will coincide with the start of the AACA Hershey Fall Meet https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcpjbksL8oV4ey-Q9yJM42i5yqK9pdtYIi0Rln_q8UNkkORVhh0-J84NGnUDf3jN509bUqo6SEeXJT-wkMzTufd72VPS8epumSWxzIDbjbj264N9oGXSjePg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== that runs through Oct. 9.
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>     The Newport Car Museum will host the Mass Cruisers AutoFest https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCctPRBBBBinoJqKGLSHel5BRJZJx_Glj1MDertfdwbltGEbUUawMgxXp2zJT5s4bEfNLQhrjWWFwdLBCeYDlR-oCjBUHcWw-q_gpw864tRBMdMHqN7i_V_Yg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. Aug. 22 with more than 500 vehicles, trophies, vendors, music, food trucks and valve cover racing. Car registrations must be received by Aug. 16.
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>     Weekend Racing Calendar
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>     Photo: SAAC
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>     The Shelby American Automobile Club will present its annual convention ? SAAC-46 ? at Sonoma Raceway starting Friday with a more-than-full slate of activities https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcljZoxfF1mqm-PEd7WLwJCKyj53ffSQTSemDWwwWgRxzT0gmT4kN6JqlOuJzQmlSshdKXK9Vt9nlScMW9k6WQvA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== to make up for the cancellation of last year?s event.
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>     Rocky Mountain Vintage Racing will host its 10th Race Against Kids Cancer this weekend at High Plains Raceway. Entrants https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc8-4Bkd4_vFvqhtqtKAKyzS2aUaWk8FvuGsZsO2dMuJLDX13LuBkxWLMCw0GPkR8ns568YpheJ7fL6kdTiJGPkj8LbY7hoMgFm3zryfwXXrTnnjy_0KIx9pstbtVlvzKZQ8aDl9eQg7m6GOuU8BgCwVH_ioQF-tCWvFjhmPdCBbLmOQsgfWM9Ry7G5qE9qTRAVDsGRPr9lzU=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== will grid in several run groups to add to the club?s nine-year fundraising total of more than $1.2 million for the Morgan Adams Foundation. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKsv_JLRpV0zVurv7xH1JMMhyLlmFf7PT4zGI5R3bXSHlm6sB1ZhvQU7xgY74VhMIIaGxdIyRtF8ZN0Oa6pmsTeiNBwRrzTH-Rl_-jo9B9T3P&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     And this weekend?s 30th Silverstone Classic https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcUB7HM4l9Au0KXTtQD_Nq0BgWDChQcmzt-EqfnoMEqCTQkJWtEDuWzUWv1pKoFTL5J_bLtudJu1jwOEG-Sojqxw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== will be the biggest ever. With races harking back to the golden ages of Formula One, sports cars, GTs, single-seaters and touring cars, several grids now boast no fewer than 61 competition cars of yesteryear, never seen before in England.
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>     On the schedule are special showdowns marking the 60-year anniversaries of two British motoring gems: the Jaguar E-type and Mini Cooper S. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKsbspAKuq_2vguOAfFhbnWcAwxNmqOTitxpIvqbZ8VRNuJaMPwePrLzaCUYxfk_18vjNpXxXfTNB0oQrmVXQhZ8HM5Agp_8zDgQVlJ6u69eFlDWHGxSOTyABzK0LfMJ92Q==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Petersen Offering Aug. 9-13 Road to Pebble Beach Rally https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKgWHGdohH1v9Mt7BkuQcpOVfhKJYToXeEqO8EMVLwJVOc7haD4JDGoIDZpw5Zy_KQJuz1C9J9eZc5IMeLlUR9lKfSpm1AyyRaGaWe72leEn4qAGksvcy_ruJ98o-NboGzzXraHHOekyQmDqY7iQewXM=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Pebble Beach Concours
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>     Los Angeles, CA ? As the calendar brings us closer to all of the action of Monterey Car Week, the Petersen Museum is offering a five-day road rally that starts at the museum and ends at Pebble Beach with Aug. 13 visits to RetroAuto, a classic car forum and various auctions.
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>     Along the way, rally participants will enjoy tours of private car collections, a visit to the Santa Margarita Ranch Drag Strip, the McCalls Motorworks Kickoff Party, dinners, panel discussions and much more.
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>     Get full information about the rally itinerary and ticket prices. https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcF3s7zqaLzqw1wNX0IGU6MPQH8SxlU34JEFWT0lmnDBx90YclGYZTeUWbKVguLjKr-fUcaDWVy8Cw1TU34GgAYnf8YkY-YE4mLYhPJjVftJLWk36Hv6O6hSpX4vYmBBaJvEYq3L5BY-1uvdm2SH0V-U71PFGE99DG_kuO8m2totw9zzB8wP2-d_ZcfXcQlPhOh9Ms5N3wn_A=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA== https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKufaoA3SImHAvTS2u7ffNp2xAY_oXjxB4BWUKDIkUldlngMjQN0_iWaDe91ZYH9fvr5dunGCQqf-mZKOnRnRbXxsWKzQUrqfxA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Tickets Now Available for Audrain Concours and Seminars https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKjcVlJjh0ZUBzSiW7fNt84mg4Pyiid2utvfMVAJCpd4jjuBJvJVTMXUgyUAC_QFgRLUQwm4Nk1naihA0lHOLof-mnWfnUwXXzP8g1Wl3pAjIXRIuWbYrgmMgs97rzUloXaiO-Tlj6cxgTuk4KEiMdnsvxhXyyOz-SUidka_LHbkq&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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>     Photo: Audrain Concours
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>     Newport, RI ? Leading up to the Oct. 3 Audrain Concours d?Elegance are three days of car-related activities and seminars, including an Oct. 1 interview of racing legend Lyn St. James by Motorsports Hall of Famer Judy Stropus, titled ?A Life on Track.? https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcOSC_1U3SNUjBwOK2CNnMOExfRmjNPBj8FyspHWPaanZylEQ4YXApyQzjVZujVnwETra4sVZOSkrLKm0HY88lacMQUIo5IiPCbiD0NGDukKqO-0cWmcK0JLmH1Fbb2kCNQ_c4CsB2O2g=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==
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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 12:48:52 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 13:48:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Kastner Cup Awarded,
 Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners, Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
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Glad they used the group shot. V for victory!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 9:57 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> It's good to see this prominent announcement and article in my email this
> morning and thought I should share it.
> Cheers,
> Dave H.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Vintage Motorsport Magazine <info at vintagemotorsport.com>
> To: dlhogye at comcast.net
> Date: 07/29/2021 7:05 AM
> Subject: Kastner Cup Awarded, Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners,
> Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
>
>
> Vintage Motorsport eNews
>
> 07.29.2021 | Editors: Scott and Cyndi Paceley
>
> View in Browser www.vintagemotorsport.com
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc0MdiLxOaY0wcnIW_ozpnN4DNBrw1Xfz4mnSg6PbE_AQ3bMgLe-X4-bitU80u4UlKOUYs0paCZTlD4wrgBAANhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Kastner Cup Goes to Jeff Quick
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKgWHGdohH1v9Mt7BkuQcpOVfhKJYToXeEqO8EMVLwJVOc7haD4JDGoIDZpw5Zy_KQJuz1C9J9eZc5IMeLlUR9lKfSpm1AyyRaGaWe72leEn4qAGksvcy_ruJ98o-NboGzzXraHHOekyQmDqY7iQewXM=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> 2021 Kastner Cup awardee Jeff Quick (front) with his Triumph mates. Photo:
> North American Triumphs
>
> Portland, OR -- Last Saturday?s 19th Kastner Cup vintage race at Portland
> International Raceway -- the first without its co-founder and namesake
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKq5NtTZ8CW0LhXk2zWS9DbWbjBmlCT-kllfvGLTF5GqeZl1HTpKoiTfmf1kHE2g9ECl93bVZik35vtHD-_3bpwAkIEilZ-SgvxagVg-wSu1AWY9FN0VkTzTjAU1CpnHRt-EaA2wirg_m8pdvuxLLfhmZVgrw8uLcqNQx9_3grdGC&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> who passed away in April ? was a fitting tribute to the late R.W. ?Kas?
> Kastner.
>
> Read more at VintageMotorsport.com
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcK6dRyIsmCRFhiI7SAxvUCYGeSpIYCy_GHYzXMg4GicVqkxZAua2IM18uDidyqjmljfx2gyzpUFkq-sfZulCOMCcu7JIZEbVBxIYMkvocDTyZ66p5jVVMk3pVGDqnlceA_ZUiTr1swpSYOINzkfMaRg==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Over 200 Cars Already Confirmed for Woodward Dream Show
>
> Photo: Woodward Dream Show
>
> Pontiac, MI ? Car entries are still being accepted
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc69ZBfuBE8W4_VGz-LnTP4wpVESzNcdobf2LD5DeSm8fGnIVieG76_QmSvcWFmiCJDzLPoQMZ8rz7PVL4raN-wACM1yPWTG5wK3cyV4GwkIbVTU3HcKefmw==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> for the Aug. 20 Woodward Dream Show at the M1 Concourse, and organizers
> hope to generously exceed the current roster of 200-plus cars.
>
> Read the full story, including videos with two car owners, on
> VintageMotorsport.com
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcWNdrNQA2FKHtXwmbgtr7XbkKHEIakHeYuuORLpR2zUHKWSJRe8bohZrg1n89ttzvOJlMa2a9YQKnq-g83GaHXrYAxLKvr_dW2RH_IE4bi4d1KPxiZaP-1klMXfJcFXr4qifSpjClcJ_qELKbFK2bmGZcAu_C1ASEQ5uTwFITAOo=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>.
>
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKpgWsJkGlYJBCpkV76-jAJWdLkvy-DNxFdzPBvikmT57ZKWdJAk8owFZ4fIhFJXDg-P0jpOu-8ZRPW8yevvmz94P_gcHvOlQLY2b9H8Su5avp64AO3RtziSV_N7UZ2kpGUv8-umTv3L0QXX2YxNp_4h1_IQnPu_vA2k2jm1Mi4tSKntw9aQS9gzPM-8aJgxsQRrL2DNOQ3YsjLrGZKJ0UeUoIerW03DWjA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> ICYMI: Sept. 23 RRDC Dinner Will Fete Rick Mears
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKt2-oSPB7wuzvKfv7jn9-K-_9ocAQvHlO-MHTgdM4IjwGoLhR-Y3Zuyf_5d8pG-E_2koquC3_dXmG73GcGW-ztyP4TKhCmyUzmnfjwAueiDdl3-f9AQoK9x006BpdUu5WS07fW3lnURDyxK9VLCHPnLpJ96R6DOC2ToGtuUngB_mtQgsiBmaukJeOBznlf2rTsZ-kld7hwcMTHN1Aa4Ctxs=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Photo: Scott LePage/Motorsport Images
>
> RACER colleague Marshall Pruett brings the good news that the Road Racing
> Drivers Club dinner, an annual event that has been part of the Long Beach
> Grand Prix weekend for more than a decade, is returning. This year?s
> honoree is Rick Mears.
>
> Read the full story on VintageMotorsport.com.
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>
> Revolant? Will Offer Jim Clark Retrospective
>
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>
> The event will offer an upclose look at the Lotus Type 34 . Photo:
> Bonhams Auctions
>
> Carmel, IN ? Revolant?, part of the Aug. 27-29 Artomobilia weekend
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> that features the Shift Road Rally, Fuelicious, Artomobilia and more, will
> donate 100% of ticketed revenue to programming support for the Indianapolis
> Motor Speedway Museum.
>
> Set for Aug. 29, the idea behind Revolant? is the celebration of
> revolutionary automotive machinery, their visionary designers and the
> courageous drivers that have influenced road and race cars. What better
> place to do that than near the Racing Capital of the World?
>
> An amazing collection of cars in a variety of featured and specialty
> classes
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> ? including three eras of Indianapolis pace cars -- will be displayed on
> the grounds of the Bridgewater Golf Club
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> in Carmel, Indiana. Among the highlights will be the event?s retrospective
> on Jim Clark and the Lotus Type 34, showing how the superior handling of a
> lightweight, rear-engine chassis redefined performance on the track.
>
> Artomobilia had announced in August 2019 that Revolant? would make its
> event debut in 2020, but the entire weekend was canceled. Purchase VIP or
> regular guest tickets.
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcY8eyCopwXTI1zS2WbgWU_O9PW9ZZ6efOHRHMDW-98cr3QJjwCZkcQ8ue7DXUGVnpTlOk5WJhhfqzXLGAUchc6UbKrYP5p0oGgq_LFb1ha4U=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> FYI, the Aug. 28 Artomobilia
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> event in the Carmel Arts & Design District now includes car exhibits open
> to BMW, Lotus and Porsche.
>
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcSe-JHLY4m_E_RWMXxwvRorqKsMsk4yCBgM3emAa6QWq-BcFzx64rYdA4-TdzL-shlDH7abbIDb3dzIVt1YWLBGqxa7Y4yX9c&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
>
> Monterey Momentum: Mecum Auction Preview
>
> Walworth, WI ? Among the newest additions to Mecum?s 600-car lineup for
> its Aug. 12-14 Daytime Auction at the Hyatt Regency Monterey Hotel and Spa
> is a group of three Shelby American cars.
>
> First is a 1967 Shelby 427 ?Semi Competition? Cobra
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCchf4XezBwh8W1tWI7F5Li2iOhdmo7Eh7qqTLk-pdpKKt9yZ4IjjSwyyoNFWBt7otOoXpywEswwDYMqNO51RSVb0zYtoLyI1tAePNpGcUOj2l2Sr5huk9uftgBzm72BouQiu1aiwjoXhPtBOxf5B14lLf_xvHOmQ97beUsANPi-6yRDXgJ48vazE7-lSGJyHJU20KpDwIFMx04m6vwc_Ony7NVhyC2bcAeSVZsqseHjf5xtCRHQLa5lN6RJZ-B_emrD1qgGojr8Ldo29e9JCcHhA==&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>,
> one of only 29 427 Cobra S/Cs built, and restored by Robin Automotive in
> Northern California. The celebrated car has won numerous awards throughout
> its lifetime, including first place in Competition Shelby Popular Vote at
> SAAC-5, a Gold Award at the 1998 SAAC Convention and Best Cobra and Best
> Comp Cobra at the 1999 SAAC meet in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
>
> Next is SFM5R538
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc8WEHqJL1214QElJkL3qZIEbv64PA5V39jGga91USx9BHT8D-ALy70LwmIf6NTMJ3UMZUvfip7gsE4CUDDUBWbQxtXI5ck8vF3pzk7zn14W7O8A6hafPg-o5Kw7JxXuYsJwBrSjtEX5JPBMoKURHgVlgHjBy_Lz1ut38J0DNQl5Eb1Bt2Mdl6hea6LbL6Q7qqqatTcZGnovD57D73WQVy5EvYPUrphnza4vP_rd83EijXjaZV3-dlos6YhMtmBTFTUz_q3roXZxE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>,
> the winningest 1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback ever. One of only 36 factory
> competition models ever built, it claimed the SCCA Southeast Divisional
> Championship under original owner Roger West before making 54 starts with
> 42 finishes and 32 wins under the tutelage of second owner Charlie Kemp and
> Crew Chief Pete Hood, including a run of 17 straight victories between 1968
> and 1969.
>
> And CSX2495,
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc3hfMDMo_7W89le0YFn_U3uOjZzffZMhDer_MQlmV04PCZIqPFlGxIrDQGTtUTVKeq5sztRNrJUjonJo9w4PBBWoa2wKWHOuSRbQz4n6jSMbSyCui4lsnj3HgMcdMXvXxW1bM18VMpp8Lc0hijrzzqvNNG_CqWSerDbEasWaBzEy_G_EDRnzpuKQ4ZCeBdKjkgYvE_1Xbk2guRWsyNKfbqSuGFtciTDLVq-LEIlla1KslLGnxodfoCkjZIp7rXE2HR4K6f6DbDhE=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> a 1965 Shelby 289 Cobra Roadster, was once owned by Jim Inglese, founder of
> the famous Inglese Induction Systems. In fact, Inglese?s foray into the
> tuning industry was allegedly inspired by this very car. While installing a
> set of Webers on CSX2495, Inglese ran into so much difficulty trying to get
> them to function properly, he decided to start an entire company dedicated
> to the process.
>
> These Shelbys join other star consignments that range from a 1936
> Delahaye Type 135 Competition Court Teardrop Coupe,
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCce85CxwRpIIu_FdvS4tleszziVEFCborLWq5JcKkYQ149lWh9swdwcHttP-benhauwibvvfHlBqYBZG9vBt6RAAy9stboiKxSMOUOYUfRqCRl2Cqk9PVABq_ZYuEjwD2JirztzxDg6HoS9qz8admf6OnNLfM_yV518oMRWiCA3n9D-yltqir8OhPDxfZjFLAKsaPiN9EAV-1Znp5gewA1vnY3Cmea7NQSdNdMYbmBCCNQfIpVQin9K26e77pZ5xBUZPjHCerH54FGdCutHgxs_w_sPaVD82OqyB1Y_sPHRds=&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> a 1965 Ferrari 500 Superfast and a 1972 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona,
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> to a 2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo and a 2014 Ferrari LaFerrari.
>
> Check out the full docket
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCc-Qp3lQ2nwMxw9e-857thgsN97BSChlTDvHCBsS0iWb4RHNoBwZL2GoVSYUMESxlBwCv-6JWtfc3ZDPeFHyPcYayETqAtuELIq9bPPRsR1EmJNafDofbnjlnJiLLVvhw4&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> that includes these favorites, and get the just-released digital catalogs
> for Friday
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcFqHEXRun1s2oo_8XKznxS-2qVbzxxJIWyeEw5P0GGts1I93h-O1SQkKAgBP0Qabgi3yKGz2QddQzKoJ7vcwc4Nbalgifeusv6S7W3i6SFGzFLy-ZrZCDgokL54UgK-z6gU_rTqsyUcAO_Jfra7F8zuzFBEOOXdXg&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
> and Saturday.
> <https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VcvIavNEhgfYjjgPjNmCuviOoELuhzqTeoB8iqbjbSZ-5X9vJcjCKkE3WB181rCcHlne7JXP3xMyit4DW7H07n6hh7JAvQfud00ZJv0XJb-WQ5w-EWBEIP0eK_GkKprxC9Y0NX_aPubo8eefdTk_IeQerDZobnuHRI8Cw9r5HY6zJDGWakDtIIoieo-o7pA7wvLkFYtcByKq1-tBaRd9wOMG8fg6RMtc&c=nP2aWN0amSkjolCJmgIabN2umDACm9yFDxr97gLEHjiPHmbR6efCZw==&ch=pVZUVGflyay9S5eSpc4siPH7SRLjdGUu80wKx2hAhLocUO8qNNeytA==>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 16:03:54 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:03:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Anyone have contact info for Tom Dick.
Message-ID: <1B4C2A47-1C7B-41FC-8E70-71ECDB10A376@gmail.com>

This is the guy who rolled his TR4 at Schenely Park.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 31 07:34:02 2021
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:34:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Search for TR4 CT7135L
References: <2077144210.867067.1627738442586.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2077144210.867067.1627738442586@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Amici,
I?ve had a gentleman, Ed Paul, reach out to me with an interesting story about the grill in my car; and he has shared his search for an old TR4 race car. ?Do any of you know what has become of the 4 he mentions in the blurb below? ?I don?t recognize the names, but also BD (before Dave).?Let me know if you happen to, and I?ll share the information. ?(He has also posted on FB in a couple places).Thanks!Dave Gott
Message from Ed:
?Hi David,?Saw you race car photos and I remember giving a new front grille to the previous owner for that car. My dad worked in a dealership that stop selling Triumphs and when cleaning out the shop prior to a move gave me the grille and told me to give it to someone or throw it out. Still looks go.?I am wondering if you might know of the car listed below.I am looking for a Triumph TR-4 and the serial number is CT 7135L; engine number CT7319E. The car is was a 1962 TR-4 that was built into a race car by Dave Hackett in 1963. The raced in the Northeast of the United States and then sold to James Grob of Fort Lee, New Jersey in October 1967. I would love to find if this car still exists and if it does where is it now.Ed Paul?

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From ponobill at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 18:54:36 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 17:54:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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