From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 10:15:45 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 11:15:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
In-Reply-To: <E3B9EBE4-C8AE-49A3-92FF-7366844F7394@gmail.com>
References: <A75A4F9F-D1B4-4C38-BE00-629DA06584F4@ponostyle.com>
 <D254D588-356D-4309-BCF1-739F5419F0BD@optonline.net>
 <1724635121.416576.1627428125134@connect.xfinity.com>
 <E3B9EBE4-C8AE-49A3-92FF-7366844F7394@gmail.com>
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Great stuff!!!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
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Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 11:00 AM Bill Babcock via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Nice of you to say, but you?re wrong Curt. This is how vintage racing
> works?and for that matter so does most road racing, right up to Formula
> One. We both blew the chicane, but I gained a position. I?m supposed to
> give it back. SVRA apparently choose to let it go, but in many races I
> would have been black flagged and informed of my transgression before being
> sent back out if I didn?t give the position back within a few laps. Nice
> drive, a good win, and I?m glad you weren?t somewhere back in the middle of
> the pack when I finally did the right thing. It would have been painful to
> let a horde go by to get to you.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jul 27, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I don't believe I deserved the win, but I'll pay it forward at some future
> date!  It was a totally unexpected thrill that I'll never forget.  Thank
> you Bill!
>
> As everyone may be aware I had problems with the TR8 all weekend.  I only
> got about 14 hot laps on a new track for me.  So I stepped into the TR7
> without the proper preparation for the race.  I knew I had to go deep into
> the corner to maintain the lead, but Oh Sh......I totally cooked it into
> the corner.  I left you with no other choice than run off track.  It was my
> fault, so I didn't feel you needed to give back the spot.
>
> I agree with the comment below; well done Bill.  I owe someone a favor in
> return!
>
> Curt Johnston
>
> On 07/27/2021 9:02 AM Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> And THATS why this is called the gentlemen?s sport.   Well done Bill!!
>
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the
> Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was
> running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water
> temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten
> more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones.
>
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I
> mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it
> too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his
> position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by
> him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into
> race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the
> straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish
> and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while
> I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a
> long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so
> just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make
> good. It was a legitimate win for Curt.
>
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a
> great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to
> work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start
> his relationship with a great car.
>
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who
> can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced
> more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a
> third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched
> way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands
> of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my
> last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car
> deserves better.
>
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
>
> *Bill Babcock*
> *Beach Bum*
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com <https://www.ponostyle.com/>
>
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Mon Aug  2 14:40:20 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:40:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Results
Message-ID: <934664397.398985.1627936820992@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

To put a wrap on the 2021 Kastner Cup at PIR, attached is the final Press Release.  Thanks to all of the drivers, sponsors, and volunteers that made for a great weekend.  

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Mon Aug  2 14:47:36 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race, July 15-17,
 2022
Message-ID: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

Attached is the Press Release regarding the 2022 Kastner Cup on July 15-17, 2022 at Pitt Race.  The Cup will be held in conjunction with the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. Participants in the Kastner Cup have the option to run both the PVGP Histo rics at Pitt Race and PVGP in Schenley Park. Racers who  enter both weekends may store race car tra ilers at the Pitt Race facility.

Hope to meet you all there!

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comast.net
707-249-1667
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug  3 15:50:09 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 16:50:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 1 PIR video
Message-ID: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>

Got the first video put together.? Great battle with John Frymark!

https://youtu.be/bxvXCWkfKWs

Cheers, Tony


From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 16:00:36 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:00:36 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
Message-ID: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>

FOT:

I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.

Offer to FOT first??.

Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com

Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
Kastner Print.                $10.00
FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00

Packaging and Shipping Included.

Make sure you list what you want and include your address.

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4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 19:07:23 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 18:07:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 1 PIR video
In-Reply-To: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>
References: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <C7972086-3FEA-42AA-B00C-15A009953F69@gmail.com>

Great video Tony.  Love the Henry Morrison comment!

Chuck

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Got the first video put together.  Great battle with John Frymark!
> 
> https://youtu.be/bxvXCWkfKWs
> 
> Cheers, Tony
> 
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug  3 22:18:23 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 23:18:23 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kaster Cup Race 2 from PIR
Message-ID: <f5c2ba5b-79dc-c1eb-2109-9ce4425e69ae@tonydrews.com>

Kind of a boring race, but here's the video (did I sell it or what!)... :)

https://youtu.be/pgjLBlT9eTk

Cheers, Tony


From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug  3 23:38:31 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 00:38:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] PIR group race video from Sunday
Message-ID: <4e52f9a9-2712-cb2f-74bc-91088318490b@tonydrews.com>

At PIR we got to run in the regular group as well as the Kastner Cup 
group (half the entry fee, double the track time, pretty cool).? 
Unfortunately on Saturday, that race was right after the Cup race so I 
skipped it.? I did run it on Sunday and here's the video.? There's a bit 
of a surprise on the last lap.

https://youtu.be/sLDwx2OkfMA

Cheers, Tony


From ponobill at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 07:45:21 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 06:45:21 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Learning new tracks
In-Reply-To: <934664397.398985.1627936820992@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <934664397.398985.1627936820992@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <F1E096E2-E1E6-4AE1-B501-E6FC9D85C2D9@ponostyle.com>

Since I?m preparing to sell Peyote I?ve been digging though the old website I built for it (peyote race.com) and my personal blog. In the process I found this post that I wrote just prior to the ?All Aluminum Tour" in 2007. I was a bit surprised how detailed and potentially useful it is. In fact, I wish I?d read it (and shared it) before the race at PIR. Even though I?ve been on track at PIR countless times, it?s been long enough that I wasn?t managing some of the turns as well as I should have. I was two seconds down from my personal record with Peyote all weekend. PIR is a technical track, because it?s easy to learn how to get around on it fairly fast, which makes extracting a few seconds a study in details rather than simply driving mechanically. Anyway, here?s the article, there?s a detailed analysis of PIR that any of you folks that attended the Kastner Cup will probably find familiar. Too late for the Kastner Cup, but you might find it useful.

https://www.ponostyle.com/racing-101-learning-new-tracks/ <https://www.ponostyle.com/racing-101-learning-new-tracks/>


Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Aug  4 08:04:16 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 16:04:16 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race,
 July 15-17, 2022
In-Reply-To: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <001a01d78939$9d0ee820$d72cb860$@gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

 

I had a look on the track layout?..looks like fun.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Curt Johnston via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 2. August 2021 22:48
An: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race, July 15-17, 2022

 

Hello FOT, 

  

Attached is the Press Release regarding the 2022 Kastner Cup on July 15-17, 2022 at Pitt Race.  The Cup will be held in conjunction with the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. Participants in the Kastner Cup have the option to run both the PVGP Histo rics at Pitt Race and PVGP in Schenley Park. Racers who  enter both weekends may store race car tra ilers at the Pitt Race facility. 

  

Hope to meet you all there! 

  

Curt Johnston 

curt.johnston at comcast.net <mailto:curt.johnston at comast.net>  

707-249-1667 

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From fmccjr at aol.com  Wed Aug  4 08:57:19 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 14:57:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 1 PIR video
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References: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <1682044823.3195760.1628089039823@mail.yahoo.com>

Nice of you to change the more accurate??slow?,? to ?lovely?! ?
Thanks for posting this, Tony. I always enjoy (snd learn) from your videos.
Rick McCurdy


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 5:51 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Got the first video put together.? Great battle with John Frymark!

https://youtu.be/bxvXCWkfKWs

Cheers, Tony

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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 09:27:15 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:27:15 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race,
 July 15-17, 2022
In-Reply-To: <001a01d78939$9d0ee820$d72cb860$@gmail.com>
References: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>
 <001a01d78939$9d0ee820$d72cb860$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL43nSmqrG=sy8XTWrnKnBJZ9BmokS-8OJJPaUU0OamHakiPQg@mail.gmail.com>

It?s a great track. Balances all of the aspects of a proper race track.
Long straights and short straights.
Tighter turns and sweepers. Plus esses.
Elevation change.
Passing under braking zones are wide and have run off room.

I consider it a top 5 track in the USA.

Brian Dolan

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 10:10 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> I had a look on the track layout?..looks like fun.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Curt Johnston
> via Fot
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 2. August 2021 22:48
> *An:* Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race, July
> 15-17, 2022
>
>
>
> Hello FOT,
>
>
>
> Attached is the Press Release regarding the 2022 Kastner Cup on July
> 15-17, 2022 at Pitt Race.  The Cup will be held in conjunction with the
> Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. Participants in the Kastner Cup have the
> option to run both the PVGP Histo rics at Pitt Race and PVGP in Schenley
> Park. Racers who  enter both weekends may store race car tra ilers at the
> Pitt Race facility.
>
>
>
> Hope to meet you all there!
>
>
>
> Curt Johnston
>
> curt.johnston at comcast.net <curt.johnston at comast.net>
>
> 707-249-1667
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Wed Aug  4 10:47:08 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 09:47:08 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
References: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>

Joe, Mike Mehl has requested a shirt.  If there are any left, could you 
contact him and arrange for delivery.
Thanks,
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 3:00 PM
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and 
Decals.


FOT:

I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect 
the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark 
Lincoln, and decals, as shown.

Offer to FOT first??.

Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com

Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
Kastner Print.                $10.00
FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00

Packaging and Shipping Included.

Make sure you list what you want and include your address.




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>
>
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 10:58:00 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:58:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>
References: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>
Message-ID: <A04710E0-426C-4271-AD4B-05307D49221B@gmail.com>

Curt Johnston had a plan to take shirt orders. If that has changed, he will let us know. They are very good shirts.    Portland was a Class Act through and through.

Thank you, again, Curt & Debbie.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Aug 4, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Charly Mitchel <charly at mitchelplumbing.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Joe, Mike Mehl has requested a shirt.  If there are any left, could you contact him and arrange for delivery.
> Thanks,
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 3:00 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and Decals.
> 
> 
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
> Kastner Print.                $10.00
> FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
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From maddhatt69 at aol.com  Wed Aug  4 19:53:38 2021
From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 01:53:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <A04710E0-426C-4271-AD4B-05307D49221B@gmail.com>
References: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>
 <A04710E0-426C-4271-AD4B-05307D49221B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1346191443.2833960.1628128418713@mail.yahoo.com>

Gents,
I would also like to purchase a 2021 K-Cup shirt. I didn't remember seeing an e-mail go out this year in regards to making shirts available for those who couldn't attend. Maybe there was? These days/e-mails all seem to blend together.?

Would anyone have the contact info for Mr. Johnson?
Thanks in advance!
V/r,
M. Huovinen

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Charly Mitchel <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2021 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and Decals.

Curt Johnston had a plan to take shirt orders. If that has changed, he will let us know. They are very good shirts.? ? Portland was a Class Act through and through.

Thank you, again, Curt & Debbie.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:? 319.464.4711


> On Aug 4, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Charly Mitchel <charly at mitchelplumbing.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Joe, Mike Mehl has requested a shirt.? If there are any left, could you contact him and arrange for delivery.
> Thanks,
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 3:00 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and Decals.
> 
> 
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.? We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.? N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.? $10.00
> Kastner Print.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $10.00
> FOT Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:? 319.464.4711
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Wed Aug  4 20:24:07 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 22:24:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
Message-ID: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>

This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my 
wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for 
something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 
20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid 
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 Triumph TR6
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Wed Aug  4 23:15:52 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 22:15:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
References: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <968316323.498353.1628140552676@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

I'll be happy to put together a shirt order everyone.  I have four remaining from the weekend, plus four of the fabulous Nomex driver suit patches.  The suit patches come with a Nomex sewing kit and scrutineering card showing FIA compliance (first attached photo).  This is an item you'll want.

Cost of the shirts is $20.  It's a black shirt with the Kastner Cup poster on the back and Kastner Cup logo on the front (third image).  The double images adds to the cost a bit.

The suit patches are $45.....sorry for the high price, but embroidery and Nomex are expensive, and it comes from England.  We paid $38 each for an order of 20.  If we get a big order again I'll be able to lower the price by $5.  

Poster are the same as Joe wrote below; $10.

I'll throw in the deal a car dash plaque for Portland as well (second photo attached) while supplies last.  Price includes postage.

Send me an email and I'll hopefully we will have enough shirts for an order.  I'll save the shirts and patches on hand for the drivers that attended, but didn't get a chance to pick them up ($50 total).

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667  


> On 08/03/2021 3:00 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
> Kastner Print.                $10.00
> FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Aug  4 23:48:29 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 07:48:29 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
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Hi,

 

we stayed at the Villager Motel in center Watkins Glen.

Not Luxury but close to many pubs with live music. I enjoyed the stay.

Just the breakfast with many plastic dishes is something Europeans are not used to.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Finishing Touch via Fot
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 04:24
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging

 

This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 Triumph TR6 

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From Vfracing at aol.com  Thu Aug  5 04:01:06 2021
From: Vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 06:01:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
References: <DF96FCF0-FD07-4D3E-BAF0-4DD8279B90E9.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DF96FCF0-FD07-4D3E-BAF0-4DD8279B90E9@aol.com>

?
?Mike;
Many places are booked up already. The Longhouse motel had a room or two still available as of earlier this week. About 5 minutes north of town on the West side of the lake.
Phil G

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:49 AM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> ?
> Hi,
>  
> we stayed at the Villager Motel in center Watkins Glen.
> Not Luxury but close to many pubs with live music. I enjoyed the stay.
> Just the breakfast with many plastic dishes is something Europeans are not used to.
>  
>  
> Cheers
> Chris
>  
>  
> Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Finishing Touch via Fot
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 04:24
> An: fot at autox.team.net
> Betreff: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
>  
> This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 05:26:00 2021
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 07:26:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <CAG9YvYOsCr_t79o7YhBDzHgqSw-Om9mEPZDdMPP14T5wDt_=uw@mail.gmail.com>

And we stay at the Falls Motel in Montour Falls which is same distance to
the track as Watkins Glen village itself. Always happy with our rooms
Brian
26A GT6

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021, 10:24 PM Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my
> wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for
> something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20
> minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would
> be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6
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>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Aug  5 05:45:54 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 07:45:54 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <47098E07-5D71-441F-8760-F5077386315A@me.com>

I always stay at the Seneca Lodge. Super close to the track, great bar with relics from formula one racing back in the day, and a restaurant with a good dinner and breakfast.
Ask for a cabin if they have one, the hotel rooms are ok too, basic but dated.
It is leaf season, so it may be booked.
They have a waiting list you can get put on, and I?ve gotten cancellations in the past.
Scott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6 
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Thu Aug  5 06:51:15 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 12:51:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <968316323.498353.1628140552676@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
 <968316323.498353.1628140552676@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <1638729860.256028.1628167875255@mail.yahoo.com>

Curt,
I am?interested in a patch. I guess I should have spoken up when I was there!?
Thanks for all you did. I had a great trip.
Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NYfmccjr at aol.com924-213-9048 cell


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Thursday, August 5, 2021, 1:19 AM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hello FOT,

I'll be happy to put together a shirt order everyone.? I have four remaining from the weekend, plus four of the fabulous Nomex driver suit patches.? The suit patches come with a Nomex sewing kit and scrutineering card showing FIA compliance (first attached photo).? This is an item you'll want.

Cost of the shirts is $20.? It's a black shirt with the Kastner Cup poster on the back and Kastner Cup logo on the front (third image).? The double images adds to the cost a bit.

The suit patches are $45.....sorry for the high price, but embroidery and Nomex are expensive, and it comes from England.? We paid $38 each for an order of 20.? If we get a big order again I'll be able to lower the price by $5.? 

Poster are the same as Joe wrote below; $10.

I'll throw in the deal a car dash plaque for Portland as well (second photo attached) while supplies last.? Price includes postage.

Send me an email and I'll hopefully we will have enough shirts for an order.? I'll save the shirts and patches on hand for the drivers that attended, but didn't get a chance to pick them up ($50 total).

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667? 


> On 08/03/2021 3:00 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>? 
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.? We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.? N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.? $10.00
> Kastner Print.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $10.00
> FOT Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:? 319.464.4711
> 
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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu Aug  5 09:05:29 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 15:05:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <1971099341.321734.1628175929384@mail.yahoo.com>

Gang Mills NY has a hotel area, 20 minutes from the track, by Corning NY.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
 

    On Wednesday, August 4, 2021, 10:24:40 PM EDT, Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
   This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 
 
 Thanks,
 Mike Kurtz
 1970 Triumph TR6 
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Thu Aug  5 10:39:46 2021
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 12:39:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
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Message-ID: <4b57f7e0-44a5-f4d4-caf7-c85e19fef577@verizon.net>

Hi All, for me the best place is the Glen Motor Inn, north of town a 
couple miles. They are open through October; I just talked with them.

It may not be in its former glory, but loads of tradition and 
atmosphere. Good food.

Full disclosure: I've known Vic, the owner, since 1970. Used to race a 
Can Am car; still has it.

He has some great stories. Ask him about the '63 and '64 USGP and two 
guys named Clark and Chapman. Or some guy maned Garner. Wonderful 
stories and he is not known for making stuff up. He was there and has 
all the memories. And photos.

Cheers, Bill

PS: I know the shortcut to the track.

On 8/4/2021 10:24 PM, Finishing Touch via Fot wrote:
> This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by 
> my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking 
> for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably 
> within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places 
> to avoid would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6
>
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Aug 11 21:55:57 2021
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 03:55:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] WTD:
Message-ID: <MW4PR07MB85727D0BC57E763624AB290DB2F99@MW4PR07MB8572.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all :-)
Looking for 2 complete differential units for a GT6. 
Prefer close to the PNW.

Thx
T

Sent from my iPhone

From tedtsimx at bright.net  Thu Aug 12 14:10:45 2021
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:10:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup T. shirt
Message-ID: <e3fb5ea2-89c2-a6fc-cf13-463d56e7913d@bright.net>

 ?Hi Group.? Just came across 1 new Kastner Cup 2020 t.shirt, size 
large.? It was left over (unclaimed) from Mid-Ohio event.? If anybody 
needs it, $20 and we pay postage. Thanks. Ted

-- 
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 12 14:15:16 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:15:16 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup T. shirt
In-Reply-To: <e3fb5ea2-89c2-a6fc-cf13-463d56e7913d@bright.net>
References: <e3fb5ea2-89c2-a6fc-cf13-463d56e7913d@bright.net>
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I don't think Mark Bradackus (I probably butchered that spelling up) ever received his.

Marty

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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 4:10 PM
To: FOT <FOT at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup T. shirt

 Hi Group.  Just came across 1 new Kastner Cup 2020 t.shirt, size
large.  It was left over (unclaimed) from Mid-Ohio event.  If anybody
needs it, $20 and we pay postage. Thanks. Ted

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From horizonracing at msn.com  Fri Aug 13 13:08:53 2021
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 19:08:53 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
Message-ID: <MW4PR07MB85728969343F994ED8A85A6DB2FA9@MW4PR07MB8572.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All :-)

On behalf of a friend ( I have no financial interest)

located in Charlotte NC

Asking 65K





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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri Aug 13 13:44:43 2021
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 19:44:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
Message-ID: <82602F35-7EF5-4529-9A0D-8A0BFF3D8848@mhc-law.com>

Where in CLT?  That?s where I am.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri Aug 13 13:47:02 2021
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 19:47:02 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
Message-ID: <860970F1-4980-4392-A46B-4D2D02C59EF8@mhc-law.com>

Kind of looks like one Vernon had.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri Aug 13 13:51:30 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 14:51:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
In-Reply-To: <82602F35-7EF5-4529-9A0D-8A0BFF3D8848@mhc-law.com>
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Slagle Car?

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Aug 13, 2021, at 2:50 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Where in CLT?  That?s where I am.
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>> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>> Hi All :-)
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Aug 14 07:10:59 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 09:10:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dale Oesterle
Message-ID: <5D253C0F-26A9-4615-A5B9-85F4C8CECC4F@me.com>

Hi, Dale, please contact me off line.

Thanks,
Scott Janzen
?68 Triumph GT6
215-817-9315
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Sun Aug 15 09:32:50 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:32:50 -0000
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Kastner Cup Awarded,
 Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners, Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
In-Reply-To: <CAJRV2eatwme_4B_KF9WuucMDr1PSC0PXKnUUdtgHQKtFWzLbng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1136980574977.1102444951134.1725086925.0.1611001JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com>
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Me, too! Nice pic, Shawn.
?Captain Slow ?


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On Thursday, July 29, 2021, 12:52 PM, Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Glad they used the group shot. V for victory!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746
Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 9:57 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

   It's good to see this prominent announcement and article in my email this morning and thought I should share it.   Cheers,   Dave H.  
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Aug 18 13:55:26 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:55:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
Message-ID: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>

For those who like these, here we go...

Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I move up 
from my qualifying spot

https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ

Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some 
good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down from me)

https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY

Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle 
holding off Andrew Moore's spridget

https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc

Cheers, Tony Drews


From michaelndeweerd at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 05:23:37 2021
From: michaelndeweerd at gmail.com (Michael Deweerd)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 07:23:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
In-Reply-To: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
References: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
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Great videos Tony ?.man? do I ever miss Grattan what a fun track.
I noticed that your camera seems to move left to right during the race. Is
that the type of camera or is it the mount that does that?
Inquiring minds want to know  lol
Cheers
Mike Deweerd

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> For those who like these, here we go...
>
> Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I move up
> from my qualifying spot
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> https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ
>
> Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some
> good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down from me)
>
> https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY
>
> Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle
> holding off Andrew Moore's spridget
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> https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc
>
> Cheers, Tony Drews
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 20 07:18:08 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:18:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
In-Reply-To: <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 That "panning action" is a function that some of the newer action cameras have. It's built into the software that scans the CCD sensor.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Friday, August 20, 2021, 7:27:13 AM EDT, Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Great videos Tony ?.man? do I ever miss Grattan what a fun track.I noticed that your camera seems to move left to right during the race. Is that the type of camera or is it the mount that does that??Inquiring minds want to know??lol?Cheers?Mike Deweerd?
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

For those who like these, here we go...

Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I move up 
from my qualifying spot

https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ

Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some 
good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down from me)

https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY

Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle 
holding off Andrew Moore's spridget

https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc

Cheers, Tony Drews

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Aug 20 09:19:45 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:19:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
In-Reply-To: <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>
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The left / right panning is done within the camera - it's solid 
mounted.? It's apparently an image stabilization deal in the newer 
GoPro's.? I'm recording at "High Def" (1920 x 1080), but it's capable of 
4K so has more image capability than I'm using.? Even at that recording 
definition I use up a bunch of space on the memory card - get 3 to 5 4gb 
files per race.

It took me by surprise the first time I used it, and sometimes it pans 
left when the cars are really to the right, but I've decided it's a cool 
effect and I generally like it.? The video quality is better than the 
GoPro Hero4 I used to use.

Cheers, Tony

On 8/20/2021 6:23 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:
> Great videos Tony ?.man? do I ever miss Grattan what a fun track.
> I noticed that your camera seems to move left to right during the 
> race. Is that the type of camera or is it the mount that does that?
> Inquiring minds want to know??lol
> Cheers
> Mike Deweerd
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     For those who like these, here we go...
>
>     Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I
>     move up
>     from my qualifying spot
>
>     https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ <https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ>
>
>     Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some
>     good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down
>     from me)
>
>     https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY <https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY>
>
>     Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle
>     holding off Andrew Moore's spridget
>
>     https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc <https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc>
>
>     Cheers, Tony Drews
>
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Fri Aug 20 16:57:23 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 22:57:23 +0000
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
Message-ID: <b26b5de25a353c85e941770f8f1ba0226987ba01@webmail>

TR2 started last week ran fine chased down an oil leak and car
wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contacts and have
good spare there. suspect coil didn't like key on for days.
I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got a very weak
spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther?? comments?
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Aug 21 01:10:46 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 09:10:46 +0200
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
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Hi,

 

Maybe the condenser is dead?

Coil might be cooked too.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von T. R. Householder via Fot
Gesendet: Samstag, 21. August 2021 00:57
An: 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] weak spark

 

TR2 started last week ran fine  chased down an oil leak and car wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contacts and have good spare  there. suspect coil didn't like key on for days.

 

I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got a very weak spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther?? comments?

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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Sat Aug 21 11:15:15 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 17:15:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
Message-ID: <79d6d636231035b80e6a5473224bbbd84383b144@webmail>

FRIED THE COIL! 
FYI

	-----------------------------------------From: "T. R. Householder via
Fot" 
To: "fot at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Friday August 20 2021 7:00:11PM
Subject: [Fot] weak spark

 TR2 started last week ran fine chased down an oil leak and car
wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contacts and have
good spare there. suspect coil didn't like key on for days. 
 I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got a very
weak spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther?? comments?
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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 21 11:28:50 2021
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 17:28:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
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Makes perfect sense

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:17 AM, T. R. Householder via Fot<fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   FRIED THE COIL!?
FYI


-----------------------------------------
From: "T. R. Householder via Fot" 
To: "fot at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Friday August 20 2021 7:00:11PM
Subject: [Fot] weak spark

TR2 started last week ran fine ?chased down an oil leak andcar wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contactsand have good spare ?there. suspect coil didn't like key onfor days.
I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got avery weak spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther??comments? _______________________________________________
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 07:07:02 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 08:07:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Display Pavilion arrives in Pittsburgh.
Message-ID: <1DB3909C-A683-40CE-90E9-D6A163B892AD@gmail.com>

FOT:

Dusty Nicholson delivered the Display Pavilion during this years PVGP.

Our great Texas Triumph friends donated this pavilion to us. Gary Kincel, Chair of the British Sports Car Hall of Fame agreed to be its caretaker and custodian.

Expect it to used in some way at the next Kastner Cup at the PVGP.  Triumph people working together??thanks to all involved.

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From jeffsnook01 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 14:55:42 2021
From: jeffsnook01 at gmail.com (Jeff Snook)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:55:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
Message-ID: <006d01d79798$12850690$378f13b0$@com>

Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the
VSCDA website is pretty limited.
 
Jeff Snook
419-344-0319
www.snooksdreamcars.com
 
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 22 15:23:50 2021
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 21:23:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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Jeff,Jake and Karen Jacobsen will be (I'm just Sprite trash, but she is running her TR6).?
Jake

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Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?? The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.

 ?

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 15:46:38 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 17:46:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 6 Triumphs at last nights Midnight Madness race at Thompson
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVa-Abebcj+3JnTCMeCa2hqdNSFP0GceCfEy=yukURUGsA@mail.gmail.com>

Fun time with a great FOT turn out for the night sprints at Thompson. The
Historic Racing Group had our own run group, under the lights, at an SCCA
Regional . 6 Triumphs were there for the 2nd incarnation of the event. We
were able to pull it off, while under a Hurricane watch in clear, dry
conditions.
The track is lit up, cars are required to have rain lights. No headlights
are allowed but marker lights are encouraged. Special mention of Dave
Gott's TR4, with the green LED inserts, for a nice interpretation of the
rules.

FOTs there included TR4 squad featuring the father and son team of Phil and
Dave Gott,  Joe Boruch, Michael Leccesse, The TR6 of Bob Lang, and Mike
Harmuth in his Spitfire.

Youtube links for clips from the false grid and the start of the race.

mike h

false grid
https://youtu.be/PVhTtZZa6NM
Pace Lap
https://youtu.be/f-t0yy_Cv68
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From paulricco at att.net  Sun Aug 22 15:48:00 2021
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:48:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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Jeff,

We are maybe on RA. We would prefer to be at VIR with SVRA the following week. However, RA may fit into out schedule better which would bring us there. 

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Jeff,
> Jake and Karen Jacobsen will be (I'm just Sprite trash, but she is running her TR6). 
> 
> Jake
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:56 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot
> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
> 
>  
> 
> Jeff Snook
> 
> 419-344-0319
> 
> www.snooksdreamcars.com
> 
>  
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sun Aug 22 15:58:08 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:58:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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I'll be there in my TR-4.? Looked like the entry list wasn't being 
updated in real time.

Cheers, Tony Drews

On 8/22/2021 3:55 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot wrote:
>
> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?The list of entries on 
> the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
>
> Jeff Snook
>
> 419-344-0319
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Sun Aug 22 20:20:56 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 02:20:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 6 Triumphs at last nights Midnight Madness race at
 Thompson
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I didn?t even know about this!?Wait, did you need headlights? I?m out?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 5:47 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Fun time with a great FOT?turn out for the night sprints at Thompson. The Historic Racing Group had our own run group, under the lights, at an SCCA Regional . 6 Triumphs were there for the 2nd incarnation of the event. We were able to pull it off, while under a Hurricane watch in clear, dry conditions.?The track is lit up, cars are required to have rain lights. No headlights are allowed but marker lights are encouraged. Special mention of Dave Gott's TR4, with the green LED inserts, for a nice interpretation of the rules.
FOTs there included TR4 squad featuring the father and son team of Phil and Dave Gott,? Joe Boruch, Michael Leccesse, The TR6 of Bob Lang, and Mike Harmuth in his Spitfire.
Youtube links for clips from the false grid and the start of the race.
mike h
false gridhttps://youtu.be/PVhTtZZa6NM
Pace Laphttps://youtu.be/f-t0yy_Cv68
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 23 05:48:04 2021
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 07:48:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 6 Triumphs at last nights Midnight Madness race at
 Thompson
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No headlights could be used, even if you had them.   Track was sufficiently lit, so that headlights not needed.  Joe B

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 10:21 PM, fmccjr via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? I didn?t even know about this! 
> Wait, did you need headlights? I?m out?
> 
> 
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> 
> On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 5:47 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Fun time with a great FOT turn out for the night sprints at Thompson. The Historic Racing Group had our own run group, under the lights, at an SCCA Regional . 6 Triumphs were there for the 2nd incarnation of the event. We were able to pull it off, while under a Hurricane watch in clear, dry conditions. 
> The track is lit up, cars are required to have rain lights. No headlights are allowed but marker lights are encouraged. Special mention of Dave Gott's TR4, with the green LED inserts, for a nice interpretation of the rules.
> 
> FOTs there included TR4 squad featuring the father and son team of Phil and Dave Gott,  Joe Boruch, Michael Leccesse, The TR6 of Bob Lang, and Mike Harmuth in his Spitfire.
> 
> Youtube links for clips from the false grid and the start of the race.
> 
> mike h
> 
> false grid
> https://youtu.be/PVhTtZZa6NM
> Pace Lap
> https://youtu.be/f-t0yy_Cv68
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon Aug 23 07:01:36 2021
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 13:01:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] And Triumphs victorious @ PBIR...
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Well in spite of a dismal turnout for our SCCA Vintage race, Mike Jackson hasn't forgotten how to flog the old 3, he picked up a couple P-1s yesterday, and in the last race TRs swept the field (of 5 cars remaining), with a 1/2/3, Mike, Phil H. in his solid-axle 4, and Tim S. in a very tidy 1147 Spit.For the last race, much to his surprise, Phil found himself on pole & Mike was gridded #4.Mike got the 3 up alongside Phil @ the green, and they diced for the first few laps, and then Mike got a bit of a lead, as Phil no doubt was rethinking his tire strategy.The battle for 3rd was great, Tim & a shoe that Mike slipped into the Sandy Beach for the weekend.Those 2 went back & forth the entire race, the Beach had a nearly 2 second lead on the white flag lap but Tim somehow managed a last-corner move on the hun-car and got the 1/2/3.
The best times for all were well within a second, good racing!

Sadly there are very strong rumors that the track will soon be sold for re-development in the foreseeable future...
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 08:57:40 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:57:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Posters and Decals.
Message-ID: <AE9D2E43-C8C9-4AA3-963D-12F64534EB44@gmail.com>

FOT,

In case you missed the first round, we still have posters and decals to dispose of.

Contact me if interested.

Thanks!

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From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Aug 23 15:21:11 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:21:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
In-Reply-To: <e7afd64d-3528-da4b-dabf-3965a7029331@tonydrews.com>
References: <e7afd64d-3528-da4b-dabf-3965a7029331@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <C99619FB-632F-47B7-BE2A-DCE4771CE5DC@multivintage.com>

I have been reluctantly silent on FOT for far to long but have all the time been lurking in the readership of our great list.
Friendly Ghost Racing will be there tending to the needs of 4 entries at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival. 
Our team of teams will showcase the following great cars and drivers:
In group 6: 
#14 The Cheetah, driven by master mechanic and true Triumph friend Brian Garcia. 
In group 8:
#27 1969 Triumph GT6+ driven by Lifelong GT6 loyalist Jason Ostrowski.
#184 1970 Triumph GT6+ This is currently the fastest GT6 in the country. Driven by Alex Amys. In all my small niche wisdom this GT6 is eye candy and an engineering masterpiece. This father and son build upped the ante and has taken the GT6 to a higher level.
In group 2:
#28 round tail spitfire. Driven by Dave Amys. Wrenching for me and Alex wasn?t enough so; Dave got his comp license this year and added this wonderful Spit to our paddock for this season. Dave is having a blast getting to know the car and is driving it very well. 

Former GT6 hot shoe John Reed will be there handing us our Helmets and making sure we all win. 
Stop by and say hello.
Best wishes,
Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I'll be there in my TR-4.  Looked like the entry list wasn't being updated in real time.
> 
> Cheers, Tony Drews
> 
> On 8/22/2021 3:55 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot wrote:
>> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
>>  
>> Jeff Snook
>> 419-344-0319
>> www.snooksdreamcars.com
>>  
>> 
>> 
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 18:55:09 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:55:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
In-Reply-To: <C99619FB-632F-47B7-BE2A-DCE4771CE5DC@multivintage.com>
References: <C99619FB-632F-47B7-BE2A-DCE4771CE5DC@multivintage.com>
Message-ID: <DC555E3B-9D07-4B3C-9FF8-251E22E91C8D@gmail.com>

Great to hear Jason!  Good luck and fly the flag proudly!

Chuck

> On Aug 23, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I have been reluctantly silent on FOT for far to long but have all the time been lurking in the readership of our great list.
> Friendly Ghost Racing will be there tending to the needs of 4 entries at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival. 
> Our team of teams will showcase the following great cars and drivers:
> In group 6: 
> #14 The Cheetah, driven by master mechanic and true Triumph friend Brian Garcia. 
> In group 8:
> #27 1969 Triumph GT6+ driven by Lifelong GT6 loyalist Jason Ostrowski.
> #184 1970 Triumph GT6+ This is currently the fastest GT6 in the country. Driven by Alex Amys. In all my small niche wisdom this GT6 is eye candy and an engineering masterpiece. This father and son build upped the ante and has taken the GT6 to a higher level.
> In group 2:
> #28 round tail spitfire. Driven by Dave Amys. Wrenching for me and Alex wasn?t enough so; Dave got his comp license this year and added this wonderful Spit to our paddock for this season. Dave is having a blast getting to know the car and is driving it very well. 
> 
> Former GT6 hot shoe John Reed will be there handing us our Helmets and making sure we all win. 
> Stop by and say hello.
> Best wishes,
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> I'll be there in my TR-4.  Looked like the entry list wasn't being updated in real time.
>> 
>> Cheers, Tony Drews
>> 
>> On 8/22/2021 3:55 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot wrote:
>>> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
>>>  
>>> Jeff Snook
>>> 419-344-0319
>>> www.snooksdreamcars.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 10:47:13 2021
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:47:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
References: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>

Amici,
I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
Thanks,
Dusty Nicholson1955 TR3 #721957 TR3 #43
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Wed Aug 25 11:09:27 2021
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:09:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CD3D3B77-7DC9-48B7-AAA4-C4F73F25E950@icloud.com>

That?s hot. I routinely see 220-230 with an oil cooler in a hot TX summer 20 minute race  That?s flat out flogging my car though (you know how I drive). 

I doubt your oil is getting that hot on the street Dusty. Do you have any temperature indicator paint or strips?  Wonder if you could rig something up on the dipstick. Alternatively, get a long probe and dip it into the sump once the temp gauge hits that temp. At least you can correlate temps. 

If it?s accurate, something seems amiss. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:51 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Amici,
> 
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.  Yes?
> 
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185 degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
> 
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
> 
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:14:08 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:14:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWv7uaoOUBSu=K31x7dz97f-UH1fw4tQ=C0kcMGY48coeA@mail.gmail.com>

I agree that reading is too hot.  How is the oil consistency?  At 290 it
would be pretty thin.  I would add an oil cooler regardless at the earliest
opportunity.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Aug 25 11:34:46 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:34:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWv7uaoOUBSu=K31x7dz97f-UH1fw4tQ=C0kcMGY48coeA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFvdWv7uaoOUBSu=K31x7dz97f-UH1fw4tQ=C0kcMGY48coeA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DFD6E37F-0BDF-4085-80FF-3AA3CB5910EE@me.com>

Agreed. My GT6 runs about 220 at full temp in hot weather with an oil cooler. My street bmw 135i runs 230. 
Generally I?ve heard anything over 240 is not beneficial.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I agree that reading is too hot.  How is the oil consistency?  At 290 it would be pretty thin.  I would add an oil cooler regardless at the earliest opportunity.
> 
> Bob Kramer
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Amici,
>> 
>> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.  Yes?
>> 
>> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185 degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
>> 
>> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>> 
>> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dusty Nicholson
>> 1955 TR3 #72
>> 1957 TR3 #43
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:38:14 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:38:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Thank you on the posters.   Portland & Kas Prints.
Message-ID: <621D1B25-7BB9-49E8-B5C7-6E7930000656@gmail.com>

My stash of Portland Posters are gone. Ten Kas Kastner Commemorative Prints, by Clark Lincoln,  are going to Toni Kastner Moran with the balance going to the UK.

The good news is that I think Curt Johnston has some inventory.   

I have Kastner Decals and FOT Decals, left, if anyone remains interested.

Toni Kastner Moran was really taken with the Clark Lincoln Print. Her appreciation of this made the whole project worth while.

Thank you, Clark Lincoln. Shawn Frank is also doing his part to advance the Kastner Legacy.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From fubog1 at aol.com  Wed Aug 25 11:43:10 2021
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 17:43:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <294173800.1515840.1629913390334@mail.yahoo.com>

 Oil cooler & I think I would be doing a bearing check too...
Glen Efinger
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 25, 2021 12:47 pm
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp

Amici,
I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
Thanks,
Dusty Nicholson1955 TR3 #721957 TR3 #43_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:48:09 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:48:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWv7uaoOUBSu=K31x7dz97f-UH1fw4tQ=C0kcMGY48coeA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CABFvdWv7uaoOUBSu=K31x7dz97f-UH1fw4tQ=C0kcMGY48coeA@mail.gmail.com>
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I meant to ask if the engine has a lot of blowby.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:14 PM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree that reading is too hot.  How is the oil consistency?  At 290 it
> would be pretty thin.  I would add an oil cooler regardless at the earliest
> opportunity.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Amici,
>>
>> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
>> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
>> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
>> high to me.  Yes?
>>
>> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
>> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
>> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
>> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
>> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
>> the oil temp.
>>
>> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
>> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>>
>> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
>> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
>> weekend.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dusty Nicholson
>> 1955 TR3 #72
>> 1957 TR3 #43
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:57:02 2021
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:57:02 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAGctxs6rw0D=SMbDArOPriN-36rZAgTshWZ_t7ruBq7dG4hQzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looking at the problem from another point of view, I would question the
accuracy of the gauge. If you are seeing a 120 degree difference, something
isn't right. Is the guage mechanical or electrical? If it is electrical,
there could be a mismatch between the sensor and the guage. I'd try another
guage if you have one.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Aug 25 12:00:02 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:00:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Since the oil temp sensor is in the oil pan and the IR reading is over 
100 degrees less than the gauge is reading, I'm voting for a bad gauge 
on this one.? If it REALLY is 290, that's too hot, but if it really is 
290 you'd get a much higher reading with IR temp gun on the pan too.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 8/25/2021 11:47 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote:
> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil 
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil 
> temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 
> 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
>
> More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 
> 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil 
> cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp 
> gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp 
> gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the 
> outside of the pan and the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my 
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks 
> at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it 
> through the weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 12:16:34 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:16:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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 supercharger with the medium size pulley

By any chance is there an oil return line from the supercharger near the
temp gauge?

mike h


On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 14:35:04 2021
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 20:35:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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 Thanks guys, all the responses to the group and me individually are very helpful and appreciated.? My responses and summary:
   
   - I already suspected the sensor or gauge were inaccurate, after your responses I'm even more confident that's what's going on.? I will be snaking a thermocouple down the dip stick tube right after shut down to get a comparison reading.? If needed, I might also put the sensor in boiling water to test accuracy.? One idea suggested is that if I have a 10V gauge hooked up to 12V it could give a 20% higher reading therefore 290 degrees is actually 232 degrees.? Y'all have no shortage of ideas I never thought of.
   - I will take your collective advice and add an oil cooler and high flow thermostat to allow the oil when cold to reach temperature.? My previous FP Spitfire didn't need one as it ran too cool with a huge cross flow radiator even with the fan off (only used the fan on the grid).? I guess TR3's are a different animal.
   - There is no oil return line from supercharger near the oil temp sensor.? I think that was the question from Mike H.
   - I will be removing the supercharger and going back to SU's... at the same time that I raise the compression and maybe swap to a lumpier cam.? But that won't happen until after a race weekend or two, CVAR Authenticity Steward is giving me time to get compliant.? I don't want to give up the supercharger power until I can gain at least some of it back!??
Thanks,

Dusty Nicholson

1955 TR3 #72

1957 TR3 #43


    On Wednesday, August 25, 2021, 02:56:25 PM CDT, Barr, Scott <sbarr at mccarty-law.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hear, hear!? I don?t believe the gauge if you?re getting 170 measuring the pan and the pan is where the sender is for the oil temp.? I?d try a new sender and a new gauge before I tore it all apart.
 
 ?
 
And you said it?s a race car not a street car???? Did no one else say ?wait?..supercharger???? I?m not one of those originality over all guys, and think a supercharger on a race car is a cool addition.
 
 ?
 
Scott (B.)
 
 ?
 
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf OfDoug Mitchell via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:57 PM
To: dustin nicholson <nicholsondustin at yahoo.com>
Cc: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil temp
 
 ?
 
Looking at the problem from another point of view, I would question the accuracy of the gauge. If you are seeing a 120 degree difference, something isn't right. Is the guage mechanical or electrical? If it is electrical, there could be a mismatch between the sensor and the guage. I'd try another guage if you have one.
 
 ?
 
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

Amici,
 
 ?
 
I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
 
 ?
 
More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
 
 ?
 
Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
 
 ?
 
Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
 
 ?
 
Thanks,
 
 ?
 
Dusty Nicholson
 
1955 TR3 #72
 
1957 TR3 #43
 
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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Wed Aug 25 15:49:55 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 07:49:55 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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i offer general comments from trying to understand this issue with modern
race engines, however in days gone bye , i had my share of issues with oil
pressures in race 2500 enignes

simplistically, high temperatures result in loss of kinematic viscosity and
therefore reducing both pressure and metal-to-metal protection

in extreme cases, molecular bonds can get broken and not fully or even
partially recover, so oil can be irrevocably "damaged" and the operator
cant tell that unless the oil gets tested

most oils are tested and rated at 90C, so about 200F. experiments suggest
about 250F is the point where most off-the-shelf oils can exhibit
significant degradation in many properties, especially kinematic viscosity

dont forget, the temperature at a contact surface could be momentarily (and
locally) much higher than what a probe in the sump might indicate as an
'average"

most oil suppliers will tell you if the oil temperature is much in excess
of water temperature, you need to address that

if a reliable sump probe is indicating the oil there is much over 220F, i'd
be doing more study to get to the bottom of the issue.

if you are trying to select an oil for a race engine, go looking at the
data on kinematic viscosity at  the 90C (test point)  and that will give a
clue to the oil that will best hold its viscosity at elevated temperatures.

Terry

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 6:37 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks guys, all the responses to the group and me individually are very
> helpful and appreciated.  My responses and summary:
>
>
>    - I already suspected the sensor or gauge were inaccurate, after your
>    responses I'm even more confident that's what's going on.  I will be
>    snaking a thermocouple down the dip stick tube right after shut down to get
>    a comparison reading.  If needed, I might also put the sensor in boiling
>    water to test accuracy.  One idea suggested is that if I have a 10V gauge
>    hooked up to 12V it could give a 20% higher reading therefore 290 degrees
>    is actually 232 degrees.  Y'all have no shortage of ideas I never thought
>    of.
>    - I will take your collective advice and add an oil cooler and high
>    flow thermostat to allow the oil when cold to reach temperature.  My
>    previous FP Spitfire didn't need one as it ran too cool with a huge cross
>    flow radiator even with the fan off (only used the fan on the grid).  I
>    guess TR3's are a different animal.
>    - There is no oil return line from supercharger near the oil temp
>    sensor.  I think that was the question from Mike H.
>    - I will be removing the supercharger and going back to SU's... at the
>    same time that I raise the compression and maybe swap to a lumpier cam.
>    But that won't happen until after a race weekend or two, CVAR Authenticity
>    Steward is giving me time to get compliant.  I don't want to give up the
>    supercharger power until I can gain at least some of it back!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
>
> 1955 TR3 #72
>
> 1957 TR3 #43
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021, 02:56:25 PM CDT, Barr, Scott <
> sbarr at mccarty-law.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hear, hear!  I don?t believe the gauge if you?re getting 170 measuring the
> pan and the pan is where the sender is for the oil temp.  I?d try a new
> sender and a new gauge before I tore it all apart.
>
>
>
> And you said it?s a race car not a street car??   Did no one else say
> ?wait?..supercharger???  I?m not one of those originality over all guys,
> and think a supercharger on a race car is a cool addition.
>
>
>
> Scott (B.)
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Doug Mitchell via
> Fot
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:57 PM
> *To:* dustin nicholson <nicholsondustin at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Oil temp
>
>
>
> Looking at the problem from another point of view, I would question the
> accuracy of the gauge. If you are seeing a 120 degree difference, something
> isn't right. Is the guage mechanical or electrical? If it is electrical,
> there could be a mismatch between the sensor and the guage. I'd try another
> guage if you have one.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Amici,
>
>
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
>
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
>
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
>
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dusty Nicholson
>
> 1955 TR3 #72
>
> 1957 TR3 #43
>
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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 18:41:26 2021
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 00:41:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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I agree too hot. I spun a few #2 rod bearings at high temps. I think the ideal temp is around 200f. I got a nice race prepped stock crank which helped and my new engine has a bullet crank which has been great. Probably because of the guy who built it. He is a for guy too. I am not sure if he wants to build more engines. He can chime in he likes.

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 26 00:00:03 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 08:00:03 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Hi,

 

that is a close to death temperature where the oil starts to suffer and ages.

It indicates friction inside the engine somewhere. Many times it is rod or crank bearings that cause high oil temperature, when things start to go wrong.

 

Infrared temperature sensors:

There are things to know about them to measure correctly:

1.	They work like a photo camera, they have an objective aperture ? in most cases a wide angle objective 1/20 or 1/12 = means 1? away measures a surface of 20? or 12?!!!
2.	The laser point is NOT the spot you?re measure, it is only the direction you measure
3.	If you want to spot measure something, get as close as possible to that spot as you can?.if the surface is not too hot, touch it with the sensor
4.	Metallic surfaces give wrong readings, cause by the Maxwell theorem. Means, your readings will be too low. To compensate this problem, paint the metallic surface or of that is not possible, put a peace of tape (any color) and spot measure on this tape snippet.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von dustin nicholson via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. August 2021 18:47
An: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] Oil temp

 

Amici,

 

I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.  Yes?

 

More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185 degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.

 

Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas

 

Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.

 

Thanks,

 

Dusty Nicholson

1955 TR3 #72

1957 TR3 #43

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From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Fri Aug 27 18:21:39 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:21:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speedo/Tach Clamps for TR3/TR6
Message-ID: <33E7B29A-D1CC-49EE-8DA9-753DADC30AD4@wi.rr.com>

FoT

Does anyone have any original clamps that hold the speedometer or tachometer in the dash of a TR3/TR6? They have the offset leg that measures just over 1?.
Thanks for any assistance!

Allen

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From spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com  Sat Aug 28 07:29:02 2021
From: spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 09:29:02 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire/GT-6 Mainshaft
Message-ID: <002601d79c10$ab1b45a0$0151d0e0$@rr.com>

Does anyone have the diameter dimension of the nose on the front of the
transmission mainshaft? This is the area typically that gets worn. I need to
sleeve a couple. Hence the inquiry. Years back I used a SS sleeve to restore
class of fit.

 

Thanks

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From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Sat Aug 28 11:46:02 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:46:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tach mounting bracets
Message-ID: <BFFFE307-7736-4BEE-A3D8-36E58E77909C@wi.rr.com>

FOT
Thank you for the multiple responses to my request for the mounting brackets.
Jake Jacobsen who is located nearby in Elkhart Lake helped me out.
Thanks again Jake!
Allen

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sat Aug 28 18:15:48 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:15:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] In-car video from the Thompson Night Race
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Some good in-car footage from FOTer Dave Gott's TR4. There are 5 other
FOT members in the race, Bob Lang, Joe Boruch, Phil Gott, Michael Leccese
and Mike Harmuth.

https://youtu.be/S-Ld-NAy86k

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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 21:05:23 2021
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:05:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <428806258.1663061.1629938486506@mail.yahoo.com>
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The rod bearing issues were based on a stock crank. I agree check the bearings and or the oil filter looking for bearing pieces

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Aug 29 17:51:34 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 18:51:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?b?SXTigJlzIEthc+KAmSBCaXJ0aGRheS4gUklQLg==?=
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Sun Aug 29 18:18:39 2021
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 00:18:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?b?SXTigJlzIEthc+KAmSBCaXJ0aGRheS4gUklQLg==?=
In-Reply-To: <B93D94FC-DB8C-43F5-A3DD-F4021E9201D1@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1883086972.804719.1630282719537@mail.yahoo.com>

 Rest in Peace, Kas.I am very grateful to have met and known Kas, even it was brief. I met him at my first racing event, the Kastner Cup at Summit Point, 2015. He treated me as if I were a long member of the family, even though I was (and am) a neophyte among the vintage racing community. Thank you, Kas...
Jay De Pol
 
 
-----Original Message-----
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To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, Aug 29, 2021 7:51 pm
Subject: [Fot] It?s Kas? Birthday. RIP.



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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 05:49:29 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 06:49:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Interesting Spitfire on Bring a Trailer
Message-ID: <CABFvdWsWMxsKuCOoJYjyC2JUTitDQWbLrY7Q4S4wa9_QwgOg6g@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting Spitfire on Bring a Trailer

[image: image.png]
Modified 1978 Triumph Spitfire for Charity
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-triumph-spitfire-12/

Spitfire racer Rober MacKenzie has this modified Spitfire for sale on Bring
a Trailer with proceeds going to charity.  There is one day left so please
help him spread the word!

Bob Kramer
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 11:39:28 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 10:39:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Happy Birthday Kas
Message-ID: <518D62AC-1BC1-402F-BF08-DC306D6228C4@gmail.com>

I miss you Pal!

Chuck

From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Tue Aug 31 08:26:58 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 09:26:58 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Hoosier Speedster Heat Range
Message-ID: <8671F8F1-2542-4A6D-9F37-796DB1B39409@wi.rr.com>

FoT
Does anyone know the recommended heat range a Hoosier Speedster tire should run at? I?m running a 225/50 R15 tire. I?ve looked everywhere and can?t find the info.

Sent from my iPhone

From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 10:15:45 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 11:15:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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Great stuff!!!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
Iowa British Car Club
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Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 11:00 AM Bill Babcock via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Nice of you to say, but you?re wrong Curt. This is how vintage racing
> works?and for that matter so does most road racing, right up to Formula
> One. We both blew the chicane, but I gained a position. I?m supposed to
> give it back. SVRA apparently choose to let it go, but in many races I
> would have been black flagged and informed of my transgression before being
> sent back out if I didn?t give the position back within a few laps. Nice
> drive, a good win, and I?m glad you weren?t somewhere back in the middle of
> the pack when I finally did the right thing. It would have been painful to
> let a horde go by to get to you.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jul 27, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I don't believe I deserved the win, but I'll pay it forward at some future
> date!  It was a totally unexpected thrill that I'll never forget.  Thank
> you Bill!
>
> As everyone may be aware I had problems with the TR8 all weekend.  I only
> got about 14 hot laps on a new track for me.  So I stepped into the TR7
> without the proper preparation for the race.  I knew I had to go deep into
> the corner to maintain the lead, but Oh Sh......I totally cooked it into
> the corner.  I left you with no other choice than run off track.  It was my
> fault, so I didn't feel you needed to give back the spot.
>
> I agree with the comment below; well done Bill.  I owe someone a favor in
> return!
>
> Curt Johnston
>
> On 07/27/2021 9:02 AM Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> And THATS why this is called the gentlemen?s sport.   Well done Bill!!
>
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the
> Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was
> running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water
> temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten
> more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones.
>
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I
> mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it
> too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his
> position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by
> him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into
> race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the
> straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish
> and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while
> I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a
> long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so
> just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make
> good. It was a legitimate win for Curt.
>
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a
> great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to
> work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start
> his relationship with a great car.
>
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who
> can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced
> more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a
> third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched
> way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands
> of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my
> last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car
> deserves better.
>
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
>
> *Bill Babcock*
> *Beach Bum*
> bill at ponostyle.com
> https://www.Ponostyle.com <https://www.ponostyle.com/>
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Mon Aug  2 14:40:20 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:40:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Results
Message-ID: <934664397.398985.1627936820992@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

To put a wrap on the 2021 Kastner Cup at PIR, attached is the final Press Release.  Thanks to all of the drivers, sponsors, and volunteers that made for a great weekend.  

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Mon Aug  2 14:47:36 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race, July 15-17,
 2022
Message-ID: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

Attached is the Press Release regarding the 2022 Kastner Cup on July 15-17, 2022 at Pitt Race.  The Cup will be held in conjunction with the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. Participants in the Kastner Cup have the option to run both the PVGP Histo rics at Pitt Race and PVGP in Schenley Park. Racers who  enter both weekends may store race car tra ilers at the Pitt Race facility.

Hope to meet you all there!

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comast.net
707-249-1667
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug  3 15:50:09 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 16:50:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 1 PIR video
Message-ID: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>

Got the first video put together.? Great battle with John Frymark!

https://youtu.be/bxvXCWkfKWs

Cheers, Tony



From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 16:00:36 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:00:36 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
Message-ID: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>

FOT:

I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.

Offer to FOT first??.

Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com

Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
Kastner Print.                $10.00
FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00

Packaging and Shipping Included.

Make sure you list what you want and include your address.

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 19:07:23 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 18:07:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 1 PIR video
In-Reply-To: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>
References: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <C7972086-3FEA-42AA-B00C-15A009953F69@gmail.com>

Great video Tony.  Love the Henry Morrison comment!

Chuck

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Got the first video put together.  Great battle with John Frymark!
> 
> https://youtu.be/bxvXCWkfKWs
> 
> Cheers, Tony
> 
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug  3 22:18:23 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 23:18:23 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kaster Cup Race 2 from PIR
Message-ID: <f5c2ba5b-79dc-c1eb-2109-9ce4425e69ae@tonydrews.com>

Kind of a boring race, but here's the video (did I sell it or what!)... :)

https://youtu.be/pgjLBlT9eTk

Cheers, Tony



From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug  3 23:38:31 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 00:38:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] PIR group race video from Sunday
Message-ID: <4e52f9a9-2712-cb2f-74bc-91088318490b@tonydrews.com>

At PIR we got to run in the regular group as well as the Kastner Cup 
group (half the entry fee, double the track time, pretty cool).? 
Unfortunately on Saturday, that race was right after the Cup race so I 
skipped it.? I did run it on Sunday and here's the video.? There's a bit 
of a surprise on the last lap.

https://youtu.be/sLDwx2OkfMA

Cheers, Tony



From ponobill at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 07:45:21 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 06:45:21 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Learning new tracks
In-Reply-To: <934664397.398985.1627936820992@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <934664397.398985.1627936820992@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <F1E096E2-E1E6-4AE1-B501-E6FC9D85C2D9@ponostyle.com>

Since I?m preparing to sell Peyote I?ve been digging though the old website I built for it (peyote race.com) and my personal blog. In the process I found this post that I wrote just prior to the ?All Aluminum Tour" in 2007. I was a bit surprised how detailed and potentially useful it is. In fact, I wish I?d read it (and shared it) before the race at PIR. Even though I?ve been on track at PIR countless times, it?s been long enough that I wasn?t managing some of the turns as well as I should have. I was two seconds down from my personal record with Peyote all weekend. PIR is a technical track, because it?s easy to learn how to get around on it fairly fast, which makes extracting a few seconds a study in details rather than simply driving mechanically. Anyway, here?s the article, there?s a detailed analysis of PIR that any of you folks that attended the Kastner Cup will probably find familiar. Too late for the Kastner Cup, but you might find it useful.

https://www.ponostyle.com/racing-101-learning-new-tracks/ <https://www.ponostyle.com/racing-101-learning-new-tracks/>


Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill at ponostyle.com
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Aug  4 08:04:16 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 16:04:16 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race,
 July 15-17, 2022
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References: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <001a01d78939$9d0ee820$d72cb860$@gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

 

I had a look on the track layout?..looks like fun.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Curt Johnston via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 2. August 2021 22:48
An: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race, July 15-17, 2022

 

Hello FOT, 

  

Attached is the Press Release regarding the 2022 Kastner Cup on July 15-17, 2022 at Pitt Race.  The Cup will be held in conjunction with the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. Participants in the Kastner Cup have the option to run both the PVGP Histo rics at Pitt Race and PVGP in Schenley Park. Racers who  enter both weekends may store race car tra ilers at the Pitt Race facility. 

  

Hope to meet you all there! 

  

Curt Johnston 

curt.johnston at comcast.net <mailto:curt.johnston at comast.net>  

707-249-1667 

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From fmccjr at aol.com  Wed Aug  4 08:57:19 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 14:57:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 1 PIR video
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References: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <1682044823.3195760.1628089039823@mail.yahoo.com>

Nice of you to change the more accurate??slow?,? to ?lovely?! ?
Thanks for posting this, Tony. I always enjoy (snd learn) from your videos.
Rick McCurdy


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On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 5:51 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Got the first video put together.? Great battle with John Frymark!

https://youtu.be/bxvXCWkfKWs

Cheers, Tony

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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 09:27:15 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:27:15 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race,
 July 15-17, 2022
In-Reply-To: <001a01d78939$9d0ee820$d72cb860$@gmail.com>
References: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>
 <001a01d78939$9d0ee820$d72cb860$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL43nSmqrG=sy8XTWrnKnBJZ9BmokS-8OJJPaUU0OamHakiPQg@mail.gmail.com>

It?s a great track. Balances all of the aspects of a proper race track.
Long straights and short straights.
Tighter turns and sweepers. Plus esses.
Elevation change.
Passing under braking zones are wide and have run off room.

I consider it a top 5 track in the USA.

Brian Dolan

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 10:10 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> I had a look on the track layout?..looks like fun.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Curt Johnston
> via Fot
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 2. August 2021 22:48
> *An:* Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race, July
> 15-17, 2022
>
>
>
> Hello FOT,
>
>
>
> Attached is the Press Release regarding the 2022 Kastner Cup on July
> 15-17, 2022 at Pitt Race.  The Cup will be held in conjunction with the
> Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. Participants in the Kastner Cup have the
> option to run both the PVGP Histo rics at Pitt Race and PVGP in Schenley
> Park. Racers who  enter both weekends may store race car tra ilers at the
> Pitt Race facility.
>
>
>
> Hope to meet you all there!
>
>
>
> Curt Johnston
>
> curt.johnston at comcast.net <curt.johnston at comast.net>
>
> 707-249-1667
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Wed Aug  4 10:47:08 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 09:47:08 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
References: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>

Joe, Mike Mehl has requested a shirt.  If there are any left, could you 
contact him and arrange for delivery.
Thanks,
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 3:00 PM
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and 
Decals.


FOT:

I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect 
the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark 
Lincoln, and decals, as shown.

Offer to FOT first??.

Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com

Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
Kastner Print.                $10.00
FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00

Packaging and Shipping Included.

Make sure you list what you want and include your address.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


>
>
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
>
>


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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 10:58:00 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:58:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>
References: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>
Message-ID: <A04710E0-426C-4271-AD4B-05307D49221B@gmail.com>

Curt Johnston had a plan to take shirt orders. If that has changed, he will let us know. They are very good shirts.    Portland was a Class Act through and through.

Thank you, again, Curt & Debbie.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Aug 4, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Charly Mitchel <charly at mitchelplumbing.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Joe, Mike Mehl has requested a shirt.  If there are any left, could you contact him and arrange for delivery.
> Thanks,
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 3:00 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and Decals.
> 
> 
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
> Kastner Print.                $10.00
> FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>> 
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From maddhatt69 at aol.com  Wed Aug  4 19:53:38 2021
From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 01:53:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <A04710E0-426C-4271-AD4B-05307D49221B@gmail.com>
References: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>
 <A04710E0-426C-4271-AD4B-05307D49221B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1346191443.2833960.1628128418713@mail.yahoo.com>

Gents,
I would also like to purchase a 2021 K-Cup shirt. I didn't remember seeing an e-mail go out this year in regards to making shirts available for those who couldn't attend. Maybe there was? These days/e-mails all seem to blend together.?

Would anyone have the contact info for Mr. Johnson?
Thanks in advance!
V/r,
M. Huovinen

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Charly Mitchel <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2021 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and Decals.

Curt Johnston had a plan to take shirt orders. If that has changed, he will let us know. They are very good shirts.? ? Portland was a Class Act through and through.

Thank you, again, Curt & Debbie.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:? 319.464.4711


> On Aug 4, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Charly Mitchel <charly at mitchelplumbing.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Joe, Mike Mehl has requested a shirt.? If there are any left, could you contact him and arrange for delivery.
> Thanks,
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 3:00 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and Decals.
> 
> 
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.? We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.? N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.? $10.00
> Kastner Print.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $10.00
> FOT Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:? 319.464.4711
>> 
>> 
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Wed Aug  4 20:24:07 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 22:24:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
Message-ID: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>

This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my 
wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for 
something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 
20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid 
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 Triumph TR6
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Wed Aug  4 23:15:52 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 22:15:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
References: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <968316323.498353.1628140552676@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

I'll be happy to put together a shirt order everyone.  I have four remaining from the weekend, plus four of the fabulous Nomex driver suit patches.  The suit patches come with a Nomex sewing kit and scrutineering card showing FIA compliance (first attached photo).  This is an item you'll want.

Cost of the shirts is $20.  It's a black shirt with the Kastner Cup poster on the back and Kastner Cup logo on the front (third image).  The double images adds to the cost a bit.

The suit patches are $45.....sorry for the high price, but embroidery and Nomex are expensive, and it comes from England.  We paid $38 each for an order of 20.  If we get a big order again I'll be able to lower the price by $5.  

Poster are the same as Joe wrote below; $10.

I'll throw in the deal a car dash plaque for Portland as well (second photo attached) while supplies last.  Price includes postage.

Send me an email and I'll hopefully we will have enough shirts for an order.  I'll save the shirts and patches on hand for the drivers that attended, but didn't get a chance to pick them up ($50 total).

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667  


> On 08/03/2021 3:00 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
> Kastner Print.                $10.00
> FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Aug  4 23:48:29 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 07:48:29 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <000e01d789bd$8e4ec470$aaec4d50$@gmail.com>

Hi,

 

we stayed at the Villager Motel in center Watkins Glen.

Not Luxury but close to many pubs with live music. I enjoyed the stay.

Just the breakfast with many plastic dishes is something Europeans are not used to.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Finishing Touch via Fot
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 04:24
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging

 

This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 Triumph TR6 

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From Vfracing at aol.com  Thu Aug  5 04:01:06 2021
From: Vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 06:01:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
References: <DF96FCF0-FD07-4D3E-BAF0-4DD8279B90E9.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DF96FCF0-FD07-4D3E-BAF0-4DD8279B90E9@aol.com>

?
?Mike;
Many places are booked up already. The Longhouse motel had a room or two still available as of earlier this week. About 5 minutes north of town on the West side of the lake.
Phil G

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:49 AM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> ?
> Hi,
>  
> we stayed at the Villager Motel in center Watkins Glen.
> Not Luxury but close to many pubs with live music. I enjoyed the stay.
> Just the breakfast with many plastic dishes is something Europeans are not used to.
>  
>  
> Cheers
> Chris
>  
>  
> Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Finishing Touch via Fot
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 04:24
> An: fot at autox.team.net
> Betreff: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
>  
> This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 05:26:00 2021
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 07:26:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <CAG9YvYOsCr_t79o7YhBDzHgqSw-Om9mEPZDdMPP14T5wDt_=uw@mail.gmail.com>

And we stay at the Falls Motel in Montour Falls which is same distance to
the track as Watkins Glen village itself. Always happy with our rooms
Brian
26A GT6

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021, 10:24 PM Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my
> wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for
> something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20
> minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would
> be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Aug  5 05:45:54 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 07:45:54 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <47098E07-5D71-441F-8760-F5077386315A@me.com>

I always stay at the Seneca Lodge. Super close to the track, great bar with relics from formula one racing back in the day, and a restaurant with a good dinner and breakfast.
Ask for a cabin if they have one, the hotel rooms are ok too, basic but dated.
It is leaf season, so it may be booked.
They have a waiting list you can get put on, and I?ve gotten cancellations in the past.
Scott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6 
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Thu Aug  5 06:51:15 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 12:51:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <968316323.498353.1628140552676@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
 <968316323.498353.1628140552676@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <1638729860.256028.1628167875255@mail.yahoo.com>

Curt,
I am?interested in a patch. I guess I should have spoken up when I was there!?
Thanks for all you did. I had a great trip.
Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NYfmccjr at aol.com924-213-9048 cell


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Thursday, August 5, 2021, 1:19 AM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hello FOT,

I'll be happy to put together a shirt order everyone.? I have four remaining from the weekend, plus four of the fabulous Nomex driver suit patches.? The suit patches come with a Nomex sewing kit and scrutineering card showing FIA compliance (first attached photo).? This is an item you'll want.

Cost of the shirts is $20.? It's a black shirt with the Kastner Cup poster on the back and Kastner Cup logo on the front (third image).? The double images adds to the cost a bit.

The suit patches are $45.....sorry for the high price, but embroidery and Nomex are expensive, and it comes from England.? We paid $38 each for an order of 20.? If we get a big order again I'll be able to lower the price by $5.? 

Poster are the same as Joe wrote below; $10.

I'll throw in the deal a car dash plaque for Portland as well (second photo attached) while supplies last.? Price includes postage.

Send me an email and I'll hopefully we will have enough shirts for an order.? I'll save the shirts and patches on hand for the drivers that attended, but didn't get a chance to pick them up ($50 total).

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667? 


> On 08/03/2021 3:00 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>? 
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.? We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.? N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.? $10.00
> Kastner Print.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $10.00
> FOT Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
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> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu Aug  5 09:05:29 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 15:05:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
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Gang Mills NY has a hotel area, 20 minutes from the track, by Corning NY.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
 

    On Wednesday, August 4, 2021, 10:24:40 PM EDT, Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
   This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 
 
 Thanks,
 Mike Kurtz
 1970 Triumph TR6 
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Thu Aug  5 10:39:46 2021
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 12:39:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
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Hi All, for me the best place is the Glen Motor Inn, north of town a 
couple miles. They are open through October; I just talked with them.

It may not be in its former glory, but loads of tradition and 
atmosphere. Good food.

Full disclosure: I've known Vic, the owner, since 1970. Used to race a 
Can Am car; still has it.

He has some great stories. Ask him about the '63 and '64 USGP and two 
guys named Clark and Chapman. Or some guy maned Garner. Wonderful 
stories and he is not known for making stuff up. He was there and has 
all the memories. And photos.

Cheers, Bill

PS: I know the shortcut to the track.

On 8/4/2021 10:24 PM, Finishing Touch via Fot wrote:
> This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by 
> my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking 
> for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably 
> within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places 
> to avoid would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6
>
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Aug 11 21:55:57 2021
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 03:55:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] WTD:
Message-ID: <MW4PR07MB85727D0BC57E763624AB290DB2F99@MW4PR07MB8572.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all :-)
Looking for 2 complete differential units for a GT6. 
Prefer close to the PNW.

Thx
T

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From tedtsimx at bright.net  Thu Aug 12 14:10:45 2021
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:10:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup T. shirt
Message-ID: <e3fb5ea2-89c2-a6fc-cf13-463d56e7913d@bright.net>

 ?Hi Group.? Just came across 1 new Kastner Cup 2020 t.shirt, size 
large.? It was left over (unclaimed) from Mid-Ohio event.? If anybody 
needs it, $20 and we pay postage. Thanks. Ted

-- 
Ted Schumacher
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http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
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Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 12 14:15:16 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:15:16 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup T. shirt
In-Reply-To: <e3fb5ea2-89c2-a6fc-cf13-463d56e7913d@bright.net>
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I don't think Mark Bradackus (I probably butchered that spelling up) ever received his.

Marty

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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 4:10 PM
To: FOT <FOT at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup T. shirt

 Hi Group.  Just came across 1 new Kastner Cup 2020 t.shirt, size
large.  It was left over (unclaimed) from Mid-Ohio event.  If anybody
needs it, $20 and we pay postage. Thanks. Ted

--
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Fri Aug 13 13:08:53 2021
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 19:08:53 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
Message-ID: <MW4PR07MB85728969343F994ED8A85A6DB2FA9@MW4PR07MB8572.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All :-)

On behalf of a friend ( I have no financial interest)

located in Charlotte NC

Asking 65K





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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri Aug 13 13:44:43 2021
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 19:44:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
Message-ID: <82602F35-7EF5-4529-9A0D-8A0BFF3D8848@mhc-law.com>

Where in CLT?  That?s where I am.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri Aug 13 13:47:02 2021
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 19:47:02 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
Message-ID: <860970F1-4980-4392-A46B-4D2D02C59EF8@mhc-law.com>

Kind of looks like one Vernon had.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> located in Charlotte NC 
> 
> Asking 65K 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri Aug 13 13:51:30 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 14:51:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
In-Reply-To: <82602F35-7EF5-4529-9A0D-8A0BFF3D8848@mhc-law.com>
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Slagle Car?

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Aug 13, 2021, at 2:50 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Where in CLT?  That?s where I am.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Hi All :-)
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>> located in Charlotte NC 
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>> Asking 65K 
>> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Aug 14 07:10:59 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 09:10:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dale Oesterle
Message-ID: <5D253C0F-26A9-4615-A5B9-85F4C8CECC4F@me.com>

Hi, Dale, please contact me off line.

Thanks,
Scott Janzen
?68 Triumph GT6
215-817-9315
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Sun Aug 15 09:32:50 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:32:50 -0000
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Kastner Cup Awarded,
 Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners, Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
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Me, too! Nice pic, Shawn.
?Captain Slow ?


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On Thursday, July 29, 2021, 12:52 PM, Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Glad they used the group shot. V for victory!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
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Iowa British Car Club
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 9:57 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

   It's good to see this prominent announcement and article in my email this morning and thought I should share it.   Cheers,   Dave H.  
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Aug 18 13:55:26 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:55:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
Message-ID: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>

For those who like these, here we go...

Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I move up 
from my qualifying spot

https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ

Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some 
good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down from me)

https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY

Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle 
holding off Andrew Moore's spridget

https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc

Cheers, Tony Drews



From michaelndeweerd at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 05:23:37 2021
From: michaelndeweerd at gmail.com (Michael Deweerd)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 07:23:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
In-Reply-To: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
References: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Great videos Tony ?.man? do I ever miss Grattan what a fun track.
I noticed that your camera seems to move left to right during the race. Is
that the type of camera or is it the mount that does that?
Inquiring minds want to know  lol
Cheers
Mike Deweerd

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> For those who like these, here we go...
>
> Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I move up
> from my qualifying spot
>
> https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ
>
> Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some
> good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down from me)
>
> https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY
>
> Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle
> holding off Andrew Moore's spridget
>
> https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc
>
> Cheers, Tony Drews
>
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 20 07:18:08 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:18:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
In-Reply-To: <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
 <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <846558197.565716.1629465488015@mail.yahoo.com>

 That "panning action" is a function that some of the newer action cameras have. It's built into the software that scans the CCD sensor.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Friday, August 20, 2021, 7:27:13 AM EDT, Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Great videos Tony ?.man? do I ever miss Grattan what a fun track.I noticed that your camera seems to move left to right during the race. Is that the type of camera or is it the mount that does that??Inquiring minds want to know??lol?Cheers?Mike Deweerd?
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

For those who like these, here we go...

Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I move up 
from my qualifying spot

https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ

Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some 
good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down from me)

https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY

Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle 
holding off Andrew Moore's spridget

https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc

Cheers, Tony Drews

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Aug 20 09:19:45 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:19:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
In-Reply-To: <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
 <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1576c3d4-1a23-d895-08bb-017a03b0d2a8@tonydrews.com>

The left / right panning is done within the camera - it's solid 
mounted.? It's apparently an image stabilization deal in the newer 
GoPro's.? I'm recording at "High Def" (1920 x 1080), but it's capable of 
4K so has more image capability than I'm using.? Even at that recording 
definition I use up a bunch of space on the memory card - get 3 to 5 4gb 
files per race.

It took me by surprise the first time I used it, and sometimes it pans 
left when the cars are really to the right, but I've decided it's a cool 
effect and I generally like it.? The video quality is better than the 
GoPro Hero4 I used to use.

Cheers, Tony

On 8/20/2021 6:23 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:
> Great videos Tony ?.man? do I ever miss Grattan what a fun track.
> I noticed that your camera seems to move left to right during the 
> race. Is that the type of camera or is it the mount that does that?
> Inquiring minds want to know??lol
> Cheers
> Mike Deweerd
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     For those who like these, here we go...
>
>     Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I
>     move up
>     from my qualifying spot
>
>     https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ <https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ>
>
>     Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some
>     good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down
>     from me)
>
>     https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY <https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY>
>
>     Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle
>     holding off Andrew Moore's spridget
>
>     https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc <https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc>
>
>     Cheers, Tony Drews
>
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Fri Aug 20 16:57:23 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 22:57:23 +0000
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
Message-ID: <b26b5de25a353c85e941770f8f1ba0226987ba01@webmail>

TR2 started last week ran fine chased down an oil leak and car
wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contacts and have
good spare there. suspect coil didn't like key on for days.
I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got a very weak
spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther?? comments?
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Aug 21 01:10:46 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 09:10:46 +0200
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
In-Reply-To: <b26b5de25a353c85e941770f8f1ba0226987ba01@webmail>
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Hi,

 

Maybe the condenser is dead?

Coil might be cooked too.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von T. R. Householder via Fot
Gesendet: Samstag, 21. August 2021 00:57
An: 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] weak spark

 

TR2 started last week ran fine  chased down an oil leak and car wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contacts and have good spare  there. suspect coil didn't like key on for days.

 

I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got a very weak spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther?? comments?

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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Sat Aug 21 11:15:15 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 17:15:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
Message-ID: <79d6d636231035b80e6a5473224bbbd84383b144@webmail>

FRIED THE COIL! 
FYI

	-----------------------------------------From: "T. R. Householder via
Fot" 
To: "fot at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Friday August 20 2021 7:00:11PM
Subject: [Fot] weak spark

 TR2 started last week ran fine chased down an oil leak and car
wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contacts and have
good spare there. suspect coil didn't like key on for days. 
 I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got a very
weak spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther?? comments?
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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 21 11:28:50 2021
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 17:28:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
In-Reply-To: <79d6d636231035b80e6a5473224bbbd84383b144@webmail>
References: <79d6d636231035b80e6a5473224bbbd84383b144@webmail>
Message-ID: <180762950.196804.1629566930771@mail.yahoo.com>

Makes perfect sense

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:17 AM, T. R. Householder via Fot<fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   FRIED THE COIL!?
FYI


-----------------------------------------
From: "T. R. Householder via Fot" 
To: "fot at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Friday August 20 2021 7:00:11PM
Subject: [Fot] weak spark

TR2 started last week ran fine ?chased down an oil leak andcar wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contactsand have good spare ?there. suspect coil didn't like key onfor days.
I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got avery weak spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther??comments? _______________________________________________
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 07:07:02 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 08:07:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Display Pavilion arrives in Pittsburgh.
Message-ID: <1DB3909C-A683-40CE-90E9-D6A163B892AD@gmail.com>

FOT:

Dusty Nicholson delivered the Display Pavilion during this years PVGP.

Our great Texas Triumph friends donated this pavilion to us. Gary Kincel, Chair of the British Sports Car Hall of Fame agreed to be its caretaker and custodian.

Expect it to used in some way at the next Kastner Cup at the PVGP.  Triumph people working together??thanks to all involved.

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From jeffsnook01 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 14:55:42 2021
From: jeffsnook01 at gmail.com (Jeff Snook)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:55:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
Message-ID: <006d01d79798$12850690$378f13b0$@com>

Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the
VSCDA website is pretty limited.
 
Jeff Snook
419-344-0319
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 22 15:23:50 2021
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 21:23:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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References: <006d01d79798$12850690$378f13b0$@com>
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Jeff,Jake and Karen Jacobsen will be (I'm just Sprite trash, but she is running her TR6).?
Jake

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
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Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?? The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.

 ?

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 15:46:38 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 17:46:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 6 Triumphs at last nights Midnight Madness race at Thompson
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVa-Abebcj+3JnTCMeCa2hqdNSFP0GceCfEy=yukURUGsA@mail.gmail.com>

Fun time with a great FOT turn out for the night sprints at Thompson. The
Historic Racing Group had our own run group, under the lights, at an SCCA
Regional . 6 Triumphs were there for the 2nd incarnation of the event. We
were able to pull it off, while under a Hurricane watch in clear, dry
conditions.
The track is lit up, cars are required to have rain lights. No headlights
are allowed but marker lights are encouraged. Special mention of Dave
Gott's TR4, with the green LED inserts, for a nice interpretation of the
rules.

FOTs there included TR4 squad featuring the father and son team of Phil and
Dave Gott,  Joe Boruch, Michael Leccesse, The TR6 of Bob Lang, and Mike
Harmuth in his Spitfire.

Youtube links for clips from the false grid and the start of the race.

mike h

false grid
https://youtu.be/PVhTtZZa6NM
Pace Lap
https://youtu.be/f-t0yy_Cv68
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From paulricco at att.net  Sun Aug 22 15:48:00 2021
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:48:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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Jeff,

We are maybe on RA. We would prefer to be at VIR with SVRA the following week. However, RA may fit into out schedule better which would bring us there. 

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Jeff,
> Jake and Karen Jacobsen will be (I'm just Sprite trash, but she is running her TR6). 
> 
> Jake
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:56 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot
> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
> 
>  
> 
> Jeff Snook
> 
> 419-344-0319
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sun Aug 22 15:58:08 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:58:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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I'll be there in my TR-4.? Looked like the entry list wasn't being 
updated in real time.

Cheers, Tony Drews

On 8/22/2021 3:55 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot wrote:
>
> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?The list of entries on 
> the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
>
> Jeff Snook
>
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>
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Sun Aug 22 20:20:56 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 02:20:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 6 Triumphs at last nights Midnight Madness race at
 Thompson
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I didn?t even know about this!?Wait, did you need headlights? I?m out?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 5:47 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Fun time with a great FOT?turn out for the night sprints at Thompson. The Historic Racing Group had our own run group, under the lights, at an SCCA Regional . 6 Triumphs were there for the 2nd incarnation of the event. We were able to pull it off, while under a Hurricane watch in clear, dry conditions.?The track is lit up, cars are required to have rain lights. No headlights are allowed but marker lights are encouraged. Special mention of Dave Gott's TR4, with the green LED inserts, for a nice interpretation of the rules.
FOTs there included TR4 squad featuring the father and son team of Phil and Dave Gott,? Joe Boruch, Michael Leccesse, The TR6 of Bob Lang, and Mike Harmuth in his Spitfire.
Youtube links for clips from the false grid and the start of the race.
mike h
false gridhttps://youtu.be/PVhTtZZa6NM
Pace Laphttps://youtu.be/f-t0yy_Cv68
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 23 05:48:04 2021
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 07:48:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 6 Triumphs at last nights Midnight Madness race at
 Thompson
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No headlights could be used, even if you had them.   Track was sufficiently lit, so that headlights not needed.  Joe B

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 10:21 PM, fmccjr via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? I didn?t even know about this! 
> Wait, did you need headlights? I?m out?
> 
> 
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> 
> On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 5:47 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Fun time with a great FOT turn out for the night sprints at Thompson. The Historic Racing Group had our own run group, under the lights, at an SCCA Regional . 6 Triumphs were there for the 2nd incarnation of the event. We were able to pull it off, while under a Hurricane watch in clear, dry conditions. 
> The track is lit up, cars are required to have rain lights. No headlights are allowed but marker lights are encouraged. Special mention of Dave Gott's TR4, with the green LED inserts, for a nice interpretation of the rules.
> 
> FOTs there included TR4 squad featuring the father and son team of Phil and Dave Gott,  Joe Boruch, Michael Leccesse, The TR6 of Bob Lang, and Mike Harmuth in his Spitfire.
> 
> Youtube links for clips from the false grid and the start of the race.
> 
> mike h
> 
> false grid
> https://youtu.be/PVhTtZZa6NM
> Pace Lap
> https://youtu.be/f-t0yy_Cv68
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon Aug 23 07:01:36 2021
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 13:01:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] And Triumphs victorious @ PBIR...
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Well in spite of a dismal turnout for our SCCA Vintage race, Mike Jackson hasn't forgotten how to flog the old 3, he picked up a couple P-1s yesterday, and in the last race TRs swept the field (of 5 cars remaining), with a 1/2/3, Mike, Phil H. in his solid-axle 4, and Tim S. in a very tidy 1147 Spit.For the last race, much to his surprise, Phil found himself on pole & Mike was gridded #4.Mike got the 3 up alongside Phil @ the green, and they diced for the first few laps, and then Mike got a bit of a lead, as Phil no doubt was rethinking his tire strategy.The battle for 3rd was great, Tim & a shoe that Mike slipped into the Sandy Beach for the weekend.Those 2 went back & forth the entire race, the Beach had a nearly 2 second lead on the white flag lap but Tim somehow managed a last-corner move on the hun-car and got the 1/2/3.
The best times for all were well within a second, good racing!

Sadly there are very strong rumors that the track will soon be sold for re-development in the foreseeable future...
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 08:57:40 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:57:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Posters and Decals.
Message-ID: <AE9D2E43-C8C9-4AA3-963D-12F64534EB44@gmail.com>

FOT,

In case you missed the first round, we still have posters and decals to dispose of.

Contact me if interested.

Thanks!

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From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Aug 23 15:21:11 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:21:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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I have been reluctantly silent on FOT for far to long but have all the time been lurking in the readership of our great list.
Friendly Ghost Racing will be there tending to the needs of 4 entries at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival. 
Our team of teams will showcase the following great cars and drivers:
In group 6: 
#14 The Cheetah, driven by master mechanic and true Triumph friend Brian Garcia. 
In group 8:
#27 1969 Triumph GT6+ driven by Lifelong GT6 loyalist Jason Ostrowski.
#184 1970 Triumph GT6+ This is currently the fastest GT6 in the country. Driven by Alex Amys. In all my small niche wisdom this GT6 is eye candy and an engineering masterpiece. This father and son build upped the ante and has taken the GT6 to a higher level.
In group 2:
#28 round tail spitfire. Driven by Dave Amys. Wrenching for me and Alex wasn?t enough so; Dave got his comp license this year and added this wonderful Spit to our paddock for this season. Dave is having a blast getting to know the car and is driving it very well. 

Former GT6 hot shoe John Reed will be there handing us our Helmets and making sure we all win. 
Stop by and say hello.
Best wishes,
Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I'll be there in my TR-4.  Looked like the entry list wasn't being updated in real time.
> 
> Cheers, Tony Drews
> 
> On 8/22/2021 3:55 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot wrote:
>> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
>>  
>> Jeff Snook
>> 419-344-0319
>> www.snooksdreamcars.com
>>  
>> 
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 18:55:09 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:55:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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Great to hear Jason!  Good luck and fly the flag proudly!

Chuck

> On Aug 23, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I have been reluctantly silent on FOT for far to long but have all the time been lurking in the readership of our great list.
> Friendly Ghost Racing will be there tending to the needs of 4 entries at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival. 
> Our team of teams will showcase the following great cars and drivers:
> In group 6: 
> #14 The Cheetah, driven by master mechanic and true Triumph friend Brian Garcia. 
> In group 8:
> #27 1969 Triumph GT6+ driven by Lifelong GT6 loyalist Jason Ostrowski.
> #184 1970 Triumph GT6+ This is currently the fastest GT6 in the country. Driven by Alex Amys. In all my small niche wisdom this GT6 is eye candy and an engineering masterpiece. This father and son build upped the ante and has taken the GT6 to a higher level.
> In group 2:
> #28 round tail spitfire. Driven by Dave Amys. Wrenching for me and Alex wasn?t enough so; Dave got his comp license this year and added this wonderful Spit to our paddock for this season. Dave is having a blast getting to know the car and is driving it very well. 
> 
> Former GT6 hot shoe John Reed will be there handing us our Helmets and making sure we all win. 
> Stop by and say hello.
> Best wishes,
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> I'll be there in my TR-4.  Looked like the entry list wasn't being updated in real time.
>> 
>> Cheers, Tony Drews
>> 
>> On 8/22/2021 3:55 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot wrote:
>>> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
>>>  
>>> Jeff Snook
>>> 419-344-0319
>>> www.snooksdreamcars.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 10:47:13 2021
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:47:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Amici,
I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
Thanks,
Dusty Nicholson1955 TR3 #721957 TR3 #43
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Wed Aug 25 11:09:27 2021
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:09:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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That?s hot. I routinely see 220-230 with an oil cooler in a hot TX summer 20 minute race  That?s flat out flogging my car though (you know how I drive). 

I doubt your oil is getting that hot on the street Dusty. Do you have any temperature indicator paint or strips?  Wonder if you could rig something up on the dipstick. Alternatively, get a long probe and dip it into the sump once the temp gauge hits that temp. At least you can correlate temps. 

If it?s accurate, something seems amiss. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:51 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Amici,
> 
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.  Yes?
> 
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185 degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
> 
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
> 
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:14:08 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:14:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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 <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
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I agree that reading is too hot.  How is the oil consistency?  At 290 it
would be pretty thin.  I would add an oil cooler regardless at the earliest
opportunity.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Aug 25 11:34:46 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:34:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Agreed. My GT6 runs about 220 at full temp in hot weather with an oil cooler. My street bmw 135i runs 230. 
Generally I?ve heard anything over 240 is not beneficial.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I agree that reading is too hot.  How is the oil consistency?  At 290 it would be pretty thin.  I would add an oil cooler regardless at the earliest opportunity.
> 
> Bob Kramer
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Amici,
>> 
>> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.  Yes?
>> 
>> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185 degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
>> 
>> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>> 
>> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dusty Nicholson
>> 1955 TR3 #72
>> 1957 TR3 #43
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:38:14 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:38:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Thank you on the posters.   Portland & Kas Prints.
Message-ID: <621D1B25-7BB9-49E8-B5C7-6E7930000656@gmail.com>

My stash of Portland Posters are gone. Ten Kas Kastner Commemorative Prints, by Clark Lincoln,  are going to Toni Kastner Moran with the balance going to the UK.

The good news is that I think Curt Johnston has some inventory.   

I have Kastner Decals and FOT Decals, left, if anyone remains interested.

Toni Kastner Moran was really taken with the Clark Lincoln Print. Her appreciation of this made the whole project worth while.

Thank you, Clark Lincoln. Shawn Frank is also doing his part to advance the Kastner Legacy.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From fubog1 at aol.com  Wed Aug 25 11:43:10 2021
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 17:43:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Oil cooler & I think I would be doing a bearing check too...
Glen Efinger
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 25, 2021 12:47 pm
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp

Amici,
I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
Thanks,
Dusty Nicholson1955 TR3 #721957 TR3 #43_______________________________________________
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:48:09 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:48:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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I meant to ask if the engine has a lot of blowby.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:14 PM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree that reading is too hot.  How is the oil consistency?  At 290 it
> would be pretty thin.  I would add an oil cooler regardless at the earliest
> opportunity.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Amici,
>>
>> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
>> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
>> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
>> high to me.  Yes?
>>
>> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
>> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
>> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
>> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
>> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
>> the oil temp.
>>
>> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
>> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>>
>> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
>> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
>> weekend.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dusty Nicholson
>> 1955 TR3 #72
>> 1957 TR3 #43
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:57:02 2021
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:57:02 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Looking at the problem from another point of view, I would question the
accuracy of the gauge. If you are seeing a 120 degree difference, something
isn't right. Is the guage mechanical or electrical? If it is electrical,
there could be a mismatch between the sensor and the guage. I'd try another
guage if you have one.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Aug 25 12:00:02 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:00:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
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Since the oil temp sensor is in the oil pan and the IR reading is over 
100 degrees less than the gauge is reading, I'm voting for a bad gauge 
on this one.? If it REALLY is 290, that's too hot, but if it really is 
290 you'd get a much higher reading with IR temp gun on the pan too.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 8/25/2021 11:47 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote:
> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil 
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil 
> temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 
> 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
>
> More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 
> 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil 
> cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp 
> gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp 
> gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the 
> outside of the pan and the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my 
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks 
> at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it 
> through the weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
>
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 12:16:34 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:16:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <1830616391.1498775.1629910033627@mail.yahoo.com>
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 supercharger with the medium size pulley

By any chance is there an oil return line from the supercharger near the
temp gauge?

mike h


On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 14:35:04 2021
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 20:35:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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 Thanks guys, all the responses to the group and me individually are very helpful and appreciated.? My responses and summary:
   
   - I already suspected the sensor or gauge were inaccurate, after your responses I'm even more confident that's what's going on.? I will be snaking a thermocouple down the dip stick tube right after shut down to get a comparison reading.? If needed, I might also put the sensor in boiling water to test accuracy.? One idea suggested is that if I have a 10V gauge hooked up to 12V it could give a 20% higher reading therefore 290 degrees is actually 232 degrees.? Y'all have no shortage of ideas I never thought of.
   - I will take your collective advice and add an oil cooler and high flow thermostat to allow the oil when cold to reach temperature.? My previous FP Spitfire didn't need one as it ran too cool with a huge cross flow radiator even with the fan off (only used the fan on the grid).? I guess TR3's are a different animal.
   - There is no oil return line from supercharger near the oil temp sensor.? I think that was the question from Mike H.
   - I will be removing the supercharger and going back to SU's... at the same time that I raise the compression and maybe swap to a lumpier cam.? But that won't happen until after a race weekend or two, CVAR Authenticity Steward is giving me time to get compliant.? I don't want to give up the supercharger power until I can gain at least some of it back!??
Thanks,

Dusty Nicholson

1955 TR3 #72

1957 TR3 #43


    On Wednesday, August 25, 2021, 02:56:25 PM CDT, Barr, Scott <sbarr at mccarty-law.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hear, hear!? I don?t believe the gauge if you?re getting 170 measuring the pan and the pan is where the sender is for the oil temp.? I?d try a new sender and a new gauge before I tore it all apart.
 
 ?
 
And you said it?s a race car not a street car???? Did no one else say ?wait?..supercharger???? I?m not one of those originality over all guys, and think a supercharger on a race car is a cool addition.
 
 ?
 
Scott (B.)
 
 ?
 
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf OfDoug Mitchell via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:57 PM
To: dustin nicholson <nicholsondustin at yahoo.com>
Cc: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil temp
 
 ?
 
Looking at the problem from another point of view, I would question the accuracy of the gauge. If you are seeing a 120 degree difference, something isn't right. Is the guage mechanical or electrical? If it is electrical, there could be a mismatch between the sensor and the guage. I'd try another guage if you have one.
 
 ?
 
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

Amici,
 
 ?
 
I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
 
 ?
 
More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
 
 ?
 
Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
 
 ?
 
Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
 
 ?
 
Thanks,
 
 ?
 
Dusty Nicholson
 
1955 TR3 #72
 
1957 TR3 #43
 
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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Wed Aug 25 15:49:55 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 07:49:55 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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i offer general comments from trying to understand this issue with modern
race engines, however in days gone bye , i had my share of issues with oil
pressures in race 2500 enignes

simplistically, high temperatures result in loss of kinematic viscosity and
therefore reducing both pressure and metal-to-metal protection

in extreme cases, molecular bonds can get broken and not fully or even
partially recover, so oil can be irrevocably "damaged" and the operator
cant tell that unless the oil gets tested

most oils are tested and rated at 90C, so about 200F. experiments suggest
about 250F is the point where most off-the-shelf oils can exhibit
significant degradation in many properties, especially kinematic viscosity

dont forget, the temperature at a contact surface could be momentarily (and
locally) much higher than what a probe in the sump might indicate as an
'average"

most oil suppliers will tell you if the oil temperature is much in excess
of water temperature, you need to address that

if a reliable sump probe is indicating the oil there is much over 220F, i'd
be doing more study to get to the bottom of the issue.

if you are trying to select an oil for a race engine, go looking at the
data on kinematic viscosity at  the 90C (test point)  and that will give a
clue to the oil that will best hold its viscosity at elevated temperatures.

Terry

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 6:37 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks guys, all the responses to the group and me individually are very
> helpful and appreciated.  My responses and summary:
>
>
>    - I already suspected the sensor or gauge were inaccurate, after your
>    responses I'm even more confident that's what's going on.  I will be
>    snaking a thermocouple down the dip stick tube right after shut down to get
>    a comparison reading.  If needed, I might also put the sensor in boiling
>    water to test accuracy.  One idea suggested is that if I have a 10V gauge
>    hooked up to 12V it could give a 20% higher reading therefore 290 degrees
>    is actually 232 degrees.  Y'all have no shortage of ideas I never thought
>    of.
>    - I will take your collective advice and add an oil cooler and high
>    flow thermostat to allow the oil when cold to reach temperature.  My
>    previous FP Spitfire didn't need one as it ran too cool with a huge cross
>    flow radiator even with the fan off (only used the fan on the grid).  I
>    guess TR3's are a different animal.
>    - There is no oil return line from supercharger near the oil temp
>    sensor.  I think that was the question from Mike H.
>    - I will be removing the supercharger and going back to SU's... at the
>    same time that I raise the compression and maybe swap to a lumpier cam.
>    But that won't happen until after a race weekend or two, CVAR Authenticity
>    Steward is giving me time to get compliant.  I don't want to give up the
>    supercharger power until I can gain at least some of it back!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
>
> 1955 TR3 #72
>
> 1957 TR3 #43
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021, 02:56:25 PM CDT, Barr, Scott <
> sbarr at mccarty-law.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hear, hear!  I don?t believe the gauge if you?re getting 170 measuring the
> pan and the pan is where the sender is for the oil temp.  I?d try a new
> sender and a new gauge before I tore it all apart.
>
>
>
> And you said it?s a race car not a street car??   Did no one else say
> ?wait?..supercharger???  I?m not one of those originality over all guys,
> and think a supercharger on a race car is a cool addition.
>
>
>
> Scott (B.)
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Doug Mitchell via
> Fot
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:57 PM
> *To:* dustin nicholson <nicholsondustin at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Oil temp
>
>
>
> Looking at the problem from another point of view, I would question the
> accuracy of the gauge. If you are seeing a 120 degree difference, something
> isn't right. Is the guage mechanical or electrical? If it is electrical,
> there could be a mismatch between the sensor and the guage. I'd try another
> guage if you have one.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Amici,
>
>
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
>
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
>
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
>
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dusty Nicholson
>
> 1955 TR3 #72
>
> 1957 TR3 #43
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 18:41:26 2021
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 00:41:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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I agree too hot. I spun a few #2 rod bearings at high temps. I think the ideal temp is around 200f. I got a nice race prepped stock crank which helped and my new engine has a bullet crank which has been great. Probably because of the guy who built it. He is a for guy too. I am not sure if he wants to build more engines. He can chime in he likes.

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 26 00:00:03 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 08:00:03 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Hi,

 

that is a close to death temperature where the oil starts to suffer and ages.

It indicates friction inside the engine somewhere. Many times it is rod or crank bearings that cause high oil temperature, when things start to go wrong.

 

Infrared temperature sensors:

There are things to know about them to measure correctly:

1.	They work like a photo camera, they have an objective aperture ? in most cases a wide angle objective 1/20 or 1/12 = means 1? away measures a surface of 20? or 12?!!!
2.	The laser point is NOT the spot you?re measure, it is only the direction you measure
3.	If you want to spot measure something, get as close as possible to that spot as you can?.if the surface is not too hot, touch it with the sensor
4.	Metallic surfaces give wrong readings, cause by the Maxwell theorem. Means, your readings will be too low. To compensate this problem, paint the metallic surface or of that is not possible, put a peace of tape (any color) and spot measure on this tape snippet.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von dustin nicholson via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. August 2021 18:47
An: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] Oil temp

 

Amici,

 

I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.  Yes?

 

More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185 degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.

 

Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas

 

Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.

 

Thanks,

 

Dusty Nicholson

1955 TR3 #72

1957 TR3 #43

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From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Fri Aug 27 18:21:39 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:21:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speedo/Tach Clamps for TR3/TR6
Message-ID: <33E7B29A-D1CC-49EE-8DA9-753DADC30AD4@wi.rr.com>

FoT

Does anyone have any original clamps that hold the speedometer or tachometer in the dash of a TR3/TR6? They have the offset leg that measures just over 1?.
Thanks for any assistance!

Allen

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From spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com  Sat Aug 28 07:29:02 2021
From: spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 09:29:02 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire/GT-6 Mainshaft
Message-ID: <002601d79c10$ab1b45a0$0151d0e0$@rr.com>

Does anyone have the diameter dimension of the nose on the front of the
transmission mainshaft? This is the area typically that gets worn. I need to
sleeve a couple. Hence the inquiry. Years back I used a SS sleeve to restore
class of fit.

 

Thanks

Russ Moore  Spitfire #49



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From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Sat Aug 28 11:46:02 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:46:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tach mounting bracets
Message-ID: <BFFFE307-7736-4BEE-A3D8-36E58E77909C@wi.rr.com>

FOT
Thank you for the multiple responses to my request for the mounting brackets.
Jake Jacobsen who is located nearby in Elkhart Lake helped me out.
Thanks again Jake!
Allen

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sat Aug 28 18:15:48 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:15:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] In-car video from the Thompson Night Race
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVZGx3MKdt-9-p+FD_ZRvvr1LjzEk5Cw-EEVfxDQk9WDLg@mail.gmail.com>

Some good in-car footage from FOTer Dave Gott's TR4. There are 5 other
FOT members in the race, Bob Lang, Joe Boruch, Phil Gott, Michael Leccese
and Mike Harmuth.

https://youtu.be/S-Ld-NAy86k

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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 21:05:23 2021
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:05:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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The rod bearing issues were based on a stock crank. I agree check the bearings and or the oil filter looking for bearing pieces

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Aug 29 17:51:34 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 18:51:34 -0500
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 00:18:39 +0000 (UTC)
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 Rest in Peace, Kas.I am very grateful to have met and known Kas, even it was brief. I met him at my first racing event, the Kastner Cup at Summit Point, 2015. He treated me as if I were a long member of the family, even though I was (and am) a neophyte among the vintage racing community. Thank you, Kas...
Jay De Pol
 
 
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Sent: Sun, Aug 29, 2021 7:51 pm
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 05:49:29 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 06:49:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Interesting Spitfire on Bring a Trailer
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Interesting Spitfire on Bring a Trailer

[image: image.png]
Modified 1978 Triumph Spitfire for Charity
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-triumph-spitfire-12/

Spitfire racer Rober MacKenzie has this modified Spitfire for sale on Bring
a Trailer with proceeds going to charity.  There is one day left so please
help him spread the word!

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 11:39:28 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 10:39:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Happy Birthday Kas
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I miss you Pal!

Chuck


From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Tue Aug 31 08:26:58 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 09:26:58 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Hoosier Speedster Heat Range
Message-ID: <8671F8F1-2542-4A6D-9F37-796DB1B39409@wi.rr.com>

FoT
Does anyone know the recommended heat range a Hoosier Speedster tire should run at? I?m running a 225/50 R15 tire. I?ve looked everywhere and can?t find the info.

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From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 10:15:45 2021
From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 11:15:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 2
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Great stuff!!!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead
Continued Legacy Photo - Owner
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On Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 11:00 AM Bill Babcock via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Nice of you to say, but you?re wrong Curt. This is how vintage racing
> works?and for that matter so does most road racing, right up to Formula
> One. We both blew the chicane, but I gained a position. I?m supposed to
> give it back. SVRA apparently choose to let it go, but in many races I
> would have been black flagged and informed of my transgression before being
> sent back out if I didn?t give the position back within a few laps. Nice
> drive, a good win, and I?m glad you weren?t somewhere back in the middle of
> the pack when I finally did the right thing. It would have been painful to
> let a horde go by to get to you.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jul 27, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I don't believe I deserved the win, but I'll pay it forward at some future
> date!  It was a totally unexpected thrill that I'll never forget.  Thank
> you Bill!
>
> As everyone may be aware I had problems with the TR8 all weekend.  I only
> got about 14 hot laps on a new track for me.  So I stepped into the TR7
> without the proper preparation for the race.  I knew I had to go deep into
> the corner to maintain the lead, but Oh Sh......I totally cooked it into
> the corner.  I left you with no other choice than run off track.  It was my
> fault, so I didn't feel you needed to give back the spot.
>
> I agree with the comment below; well done Bill.  I owe someone a favor in
> return!
>
> Curt Johnston
>
> On 07/27/2021 9:02 AM Alfetta95 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> And THATS why this is called the gentlemen?s sport.   Well done Bill!!
>
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Ponostyle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> I?ve had a lot of questions about why I slowed down in the last lap of the
> Kastner Cup race to let Curt Johnston catch up and take first. Peyote was
> running fine and I had plenty of gas, though I was nursing a rising water
> temperature. It wasn?t the car, that crazy little car could have done ten
> more laps, no problem. There were three reasons, all good ones.
>
> First?I blew the chicane on the start and improved my position. True, I
> mostly had to to keep from potentially turning into Curt and he blew it
> too, but I blew it first, I blew it worst, and Curt didn?t improve his
> position. I should have conceded the position and then worked to get by
> him. But in the heat of the first few laps I didn?t. Once I settled into
> race rhythm I thought about it and decided to concede a position down the
> straight where everyone could see the pass and then battle for the finish
> and give the families and friends something to get excited about. But while
> I was ruminating about how to do it the last lap sign came out. Curt was a
> long way back. I backed off for the entire lap but he probably did too, so
> just lifting after turn nine and letting him by was the only way to make
> good. It was a legitimate win for Curt.
>
> Second?it was the first race for Curt in that lovely TR7, and he gave me a
> great race for the entire race. I could keep him behind me, but I had to
> work my ass off. He deserved the win and winning is a great way to start
> his relationship with a great car.
>
> Third?It?s my last race in Peyote. I?ll be selling it on to a racer who
> can and will drive it like it deserves to be driven. Peyote has been raced
> more or less continuously for about 62 years, my stewardship is about a
> third of that, 22 years. It?s given me so much fun, and has always punched
> way above its weight. It's won so many podiums over the years in the hands
> of a lot of fine drivers. There was just no way I was going to finish my
> last race knowing that I should have done something different. The car
> deserves better.
>
> Here?s a video of the chicane chicanery: https://youtu.be/3S2kHtarkt8
>
> *Bill Babcock*
> *Beach Bum*
> bill at ponostyle.com
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Mon Aug  2 14:40:20 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:40:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] 2021 Kastner Cup Results
Message-ID: <934664397.398985.1627936820992@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

To put a wrap on the 2021 Kastner Cup at PIR, attached is the final Press Release.  Thanks to all of the drivers, sponsors, and volunteers that made for a great weekend.  

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net mailto:curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Mon Aug  2 14:47:36 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race, July 15-17,
 2022
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Hello FOT,

Attached is the Press Release regarding the 2022 Kastner Cup on July 15-17, 2022 at Pitt Race.  The Cup will be held in conjunction with the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. Participants in the Kastner Cup have the option to run both the PVGP Histo rics at Pitt Race and PVGP in Schenley Park. Racers who  enter both weekends may store race car tra ilers at the Pitt Race facility.

Hope to meet you all there!

Curt Johnston
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug  3 15:50:09 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 16:50:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 1 PIR video
Message-ID: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>

Got the first video put together.? Great battle with John Frymark!

https://youtu.be/bxvXCWkfKWs

Cheers, Tony



From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 16:00:36 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:00:36 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
Message-ID: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>

FOT:

I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.

Offer to FOT first??.

Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com

Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
Kastner Print.                $10.00
FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00

Packaging and Shipping Included.

Make sure you list what you want and include your address.

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 19:07:23 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 18:07:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 1 PIR video
In-Reply-To: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>
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Great video Tony.  Love the Henry Morrison comment!

Chuck

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Got the first video put together.  Great battle with John Frymark!
> 
> https://youtu.be/bxvXCWkfKWs
> 
> Cheers, Tony
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug  3 22:18:23 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 23:18:23 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kaster Cup Race 2 from PIR
Message-ID: <f5c2ba5b-79dc-c1eb-2109-9ce4425e69ae@tonydrews.com>

Kind of a boring race, but here's the video (did I sell it or what!)... :)

https://youtu.be/pgjLBlT9eTk

Cheers, Tony



From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug  3 23:38:31 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 00:38:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] PIR group race video from Sunday
Message-ID: <4e52f9a9-2712-cb2f-74bc-91088318490b@tonydrews.com>

At PIR we got to run in the regular group as well as the Kastner Cup 
group (half the entry fee, double the track time, pretty cool).? 
Unfortunately on Saturday, that race was right after the Cup race so I 
skipped it.? I did run it on Sunday and here's the video.? There's a bit 
of a surprise on the last lap.

https://youtu.be/sLDwx2OkfMA

Cheers, Tony



From ponobill at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 07:45:21 2021
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 06:45:21 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Learning new tracks
In-Reply-To: <934664397.398985.1627936820992@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <934664397.398985.1627936820992@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <F1E096E2-E1E6-4AE1-B501-E6FC9D85C2D9@ponostyle.com>

Since I?m preparing to sell Peyote I?ve been digging though the old website I built for it (peyote race.com) and my personal blog. In the process I found this post that I wrote just prior to the ?All Aluminum Tour" in 2007. I was a bit surprised how detailed and potentially useful it is. In fact, I wish I?d read it (and shared it) before the race at PIR. Even though I?ve been on track at PIR countless times, it?s been long enough that I wasn?t managing some of the turns as well as I should have. I was two seconds down from my personal record with Peyote all weekend. PIR is a technical track, because it?s easy to learn how to get around on it fairly fast, which makes extracting a few seconds a study in details rather than simply driving mechanically. Anyway, here?s the article, there?s a detailed analysis of PIR that any of you folks that attended the Kastner Cup will probably find familiar. Too late for the Kastner Cup, but you might find it useful.

https://www.ponostyle.com/racing-101-learning-new-tracks/ <https://www.ponostyle.com/racing-101-learning-new-tracks/>


Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Aug  4 08:04:16 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 16:04:16 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race,
 July 15-17, 2022
In-Reply-To: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <001a01d78939$9d0ee820$d72cb860$@gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

 

I had a look on the track layout?..looks like fun.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Curt Johnston via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 2. August 2021 22:48
An: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race, July 15-17, 2022

 

Hello FOT, 

  

Attached is the Press Release regarding the 2022 Kastner Cup on July 15-17, 2022 at Pitt Race.  The Cup will be held in conjunction with the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. Participants in the Kastner Cup have the option to run both the PVGP Histo rics at Pitt Race and PVGP in Schenley Park. Racers who  enter both weekends may store race car tra ilers at the Pitt Race facility. 

  

Hope to meet you all there! 

  

Curt Johnston 

curt.johnston at comcast.net <mailto:curt.johnston at comast.net>  

707-249-1667 

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From fmccjr at aol.com  Wed Aug  4 08:57:19 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 14:57:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup race 1 PIR video
In-Reply-To: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>
References: <a1f63d65-1894-edc9-e889-12b9e59c695c@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <1682044823.3195760.1628089039823@mail.yahoo.com>

Nice of you to change the more accurate??slow?,? to ?lovely?! ?
Thanks for posting this, Tony. I always enjoy (snd learn) from your videos.
Rick McCurdy


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 5:51 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Got the first video put together.? Great battle with John Frymark!

https://youtu.be/bxvXCWkfKWs

Cheers, Tony

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From bdolan1776 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 09:27:15 2021
From: bdolan1776 at gmail.com (Brian Dolan)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:27:15 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race,
 July 15-17, 2022
In-Reply-To: <001a01d78939$9d0ee820$d72cb860$@gmail.com>
References: <130258031.399065.1627937256620@connect.xfinity.com>
 <001a01d78939$9d0ee820$d72cb860$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL43nSmqrG=sy8XTWrnKnBJZ9BmokS-8OJJPaUU0OamHakiPQg@mail.gmail.com>

It?s a great track. Balances all of the aspects of a proper race track.
Long straights and short straights.
Tighter turns and sweepers. Plus esses.
Elevation change.
Passing under braking zones are wide and have run off room.

I consider it a top 5 track in the USA.

Brian Dolan

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 10:10 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> I had a look on the track layout?..looks like fun.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Curt Johnston
> via Fot
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 2. August 2021 22:48
> *An:* Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] Press Release for 2022 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race, July
> 15-17, 2022
>
>
>
> Hello FOT,
>
>
>
> Attached is the Press Release regarding the 2022 Kastner Cup on July
> 15-17, 2022 at Pitt Race.  The Cup will be held in conjunction with the
> Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. Participants in the Kastner Cup have the
> option to run both the PVGP Histo rics at Pitt Race and PVGP in Schenley
> Park. Racers who  enter both weekends may store race car tra ilers at the
> Pitt Race facility.
>
>
>
> Hope to meet you all there!
>
>
>
> Curt Johnston
>
> curt.johnston at comcast.net <curt.johnston at comast.net>
>
> 707-249-1667
> _______________________________________________
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Wed Aug  4 10:47:08 2021
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 09:47:08 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
References: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>

Joe, Mike Mehl has requested a shirt.  If there are any left, could you 
contact him and arrange for delivery.
Thanks,
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 3:00 PM
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and 
Decals.


FOT:

I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect 
the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark 
Lincoln, and decals, as shown.

Offer to FOT first??.

Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com

Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
Kastner Print.                $10.00
FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00

Packaging and Shipping Included.

Make sure you list what you want and include your address.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


>
>
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
>
>


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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 10:58:00 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:58:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>
References: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>
Message-ID: <A04710E0-426C-4271-AD4B-05307D49221B@gmail.com>

Curt Johnston had a plan to take shirt orders. If that has changed, he will let us know. They are very good shirts.    Portland was a Class Act through and through.

Thank you, again, Curt & Debbie.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Aug 4, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Charly Mitchel <charly at mitchelplumbing.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Joe, Mike Mehl has requested a shirt.  If there are any left, could you contact him and arrange for delivery.
> Thanks,
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 3:00 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and Decals.
> 
> 
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
> Kastner Print.                $10.00
> FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>> 
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From maddhatt69 at aol.com  Wed Aug  4 19:53:38 2021
From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 01:53:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <A04710E0-426C-4271-AD4B-05307D49221B@gmail.com>
References: <85E107408AD742DC93AD7BDB4A3A2ED2@Charly>
 <A04710E0-426C-4271-AD4B-05307D49221B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1346191443.2833960.1628128418713@mail.yahoo.com>

Gents,
I would also like to purchase a 2021 K-Cup shirt. I didn't remember seeing an e-mail go out this year in regards to making shirts available for those who couldn't attend. Maybe there was? These days/e-mails all seem to blend together.?

Would anyone have the contact info for Mr. Johnson?
Thanks in advance!
V/r,
M. Huovinen

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Charly Mitchel <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2021 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and Decals.

Curt Johnston had a plan to take shirt orders. If that has changed, he will let us know. They are very good shirts.? ? Portland was a Class Act through and through.

Thank you, again, Curt & Debbie.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:? 319.464.4711


> On Aug 4, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Charly Mitchel <charly at mitchelplumbing.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Joe, Mike Mehl has requested a shirt.? If there are any left, could you contact him and arrange for delivery.
> Thanks,
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 3:00 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and Decals.
> 
> 
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.? We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.? N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.? $10.00
> Kastner Print.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $10.00
> FOT Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:? 319.464.4711
>> 
>> 
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From fintouch at ptd.net  Wed Aug  4 20:24:07 2021
From: fintouch at ptd.net (Finishing Touch)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 22:24:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
Message-ID: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>

This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my 
wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for 
something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 
20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid 
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 Triumph TR6
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From curt.johnston at comcast.net  Wed Aug  4 23:15:52 2021
From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 22:15:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
References: <2BC0B4F5-9179-4A99-84AE-5EEB1E5EBF54@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <968316323.498353.1628140552676@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello FOT,

I'll be happy to put together a shirt order everyone.  I have four remaining from the weekend, plus four of the fabulous Nomex driver suit patches.  The suit patches come with a Nomex sewing kit and scrutineering card showing FIA compliance (first attached photo).  This is an item you'll want.

Cost of the shirts is $20.  It's a black shirt with the Kastner Cup poster on the back and Kastner Cup logo on the front (third image).  The double images adds to the cost a bit.

The suit patches are $45.....sorry for the high price, but embroidery and Nomex are expensive, and it comes from England.  We paid $38 each for an order of 20.  If we get a big order again I'll be able to lower the price by $5.  

Poster are the same as Joe wrote below; $10.

I'll throw in the deal a car dash plaque for Portland as well (second photo attached) while supplies last.  Price includes postage.

Send me an email and I'll hopefully we will have enough shirts for an order.  I'll save the shirts and patches on hand for the drivers that attended, but didn't get a chance to pick them up ($50 total).

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667  


> On 08/03/2021 3:00 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.  We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.  $10.00
> Kastner Print.                $10.00
> FOT Decal.                      $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.              $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.                  $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Aug  4 23:48:29 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 07:48:29 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <000e01d789bd$8e4ec470$aaec4d50$@gmail.com>

Hi,

 

we stayed at the Villager Motel in center Watkins Glen.

Not Luxury but close to many pubs with live music. I enjoyed the stay.

Just the breakfast with many plastic dishes is something Europeans are not used to.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Finishing Touch via Fot
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 04:24
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging

 

This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 

Thanks,
Mike Kurtz
1970 Triumph TR6 

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From Vfracing at aol.com  Thu Aug  5 04:01:06 2021
From: Vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 06:01:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
References: <DF96FCF0-FD07-4D3E-BAF0-4DD8279B90E9.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DF96FCF0-FD07-4D3E-BAF0-4DD8279B90E9@aol.com>

?
?Mike;
Many places are booked up already. The Longhouse motel had a room or two still available as of earlier this week. About 5 minutes north of town on the West side of the lake.
Phil G

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> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:49 AM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> ?
> Hi,
>  
> we stayed at the Villager Motel in center Watkins Glen.
> Not Luxury but close to many pubs with live music. I enjoyed the stay.
> Just the breakfast with many plastic dishes is something Europeans are not used to.
>  
>  
> Cheers
> Chris
>  
>  
> Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Finishing Touch via Fot
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 04:24
> An: fot at autox.team.net
> Betreff: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
>  
> This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 05:26:00 2021
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 07:26:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
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And we stay at the Falls Motel in Montour Falls which is same distance to
the track as Watkins Glen village itself. Always happy with our rooms
Brian
26A GT6

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021, 10:24 PM Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my
> wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for
> something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20
> minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would
> be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6
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From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Aug  5 05:45:54 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 07:45:54 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
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I always stay at the Seneca Lodge. Super close to the track, great bar with relics from formula one racing back in the day, and a restaurant with a good dinner and breakfast.
Ask for a cabin if they have one, the hotel rooms are ok too, basic but dated.
It is leaf season, so it may be booked.
They have a waiting list you can get put on, and I?ve gotten cancellations in the past.
Scott

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> On Aug 4, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6 
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Thu Aug  5 06:51:15 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 12:51:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Portland Kastner Cup a Success. Now we have Posters and
 Decals.
In-Reply-To: <968316323.498353.1628140552676@connect.xfinity.com>
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Message-ID: <1638729860.256028.1628167875255@mail.yahoo.com>

Curt,
I am?interested in a patch. I guess I should have spoken up when I was there!?
Thanks for all you did. I had a great trip.
Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NYfmccjr at aol.com924-213-9048 cell


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On Thursday, August 5, 2021, 1:19 AM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hello FOT,

I'll be happy to put together a shirt order everyone.? I have four remaining from the weekend, plus four of the fabulous Nomex driver suit patches.? The suit patches come with a Nomex sewing kit and scrutineering card showing FIA compliance (first attached photo).? This is an item you'll want.

Cost of the shirts is $20.? It's a black shirt with the Kastner Cup poster on the back and Kastner Cup logo on the front (third image).? The double images adds to the cost a bit.

The suit patches are $45.....sorry for the high price, but embroidery and Nomex are expensive, and it comes from England.? We paid $38 each for an order of 20.? If we get a big order again I'll be able to lower the price by $5.? 

Poster are the same as Joe wrote below; $10.

I'll throw in the deal a car dash plaque for Portland as well (second photo attached) while supplies last.? Price includes postage.

Send me an email and I'll hopefully we will have enough shirts for an order.? I'll save the shirts and patches on hand for the drivers that attended, but didn't get a chance to pick them up ($50 total).

Curt Johnston
curt.johnston at comcast.net
707-249-1667? 


> On 08/03/2021 3:00 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>? 
> FOT:
> 
> I?ve always tried to get posters out to people who do not attend and collect the 11 x 17 posters.? We also have a Kastner commemorative print by Clark Lincoln, and decals, as shown.
> 
> Offer to FOT first??.
> 
> Payment by PayPal or Check.? N197tr4 at cs.com
> 
> Kastner Cup Poster.? $10.00
> Kastner Print.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $10.00
> FOT Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 4.00
> Kastner Decal.? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 3.00
> ?OK to Race?.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? $ 2.00
> 
> Packaging and Shipping Included.
> 
> Make sure you list what you want and include your address.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu Aug  5 09:05:29 2021
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 15:05:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
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Gang Mills NY has a hotel area, 20 minutes from the track, by Corning NY.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
 

    On Wednesday, August 4, 2021, 10:24:40 PM EDT, Finishing Touch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
   This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places to avoid would be appreciated. 
 
 Thanks,
 Mike Kurtz
 1970 Triumph TR6 
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Thu Aug  5 10:39:46 2021
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 12:39:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Lodging
In-Reply-To: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
References: <536d8e25-1de0-4043-854e-0e42fea3dcf5@ptd.net>
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Hi All, for me the best place is the Glen Motor Inn, north of town a 
couple miles. They are open through October; I just talked with them.

It may not be in its former glory, but loads of tradition and 
atmosphere. Good food.

Full disclosure: I've known Vic, the owner, since 1970. Used to race a 
Can Am car; still has it.

He has some great stories. Ask him about the '63 and '64 USGP and two 
guys named Clark and Chapman. Or some guy maned Garner. Wonderful 
stories and he is not known for making stuff up. He was there and has 
all the memories. And photos.

Cheers, Bill

PS: I know the shortcut to the track.

On 8/4/2021 10:24 PM, Finishing Touch via Fot wrote:
> This will be my first race at Watkins Glen and will be accompanied by 
> my wife, Helen. We will need lodging (Oct. 14-17) and are not looking 
> for something high end or fancy, just clean and safe and preferably 
> within 20 minutes (or so) of the track. Any recommendations, or places 
> to avoid would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kurtz
> 1970 Triumph TR6
>
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Aug 11 21:55:57 2021
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 03:55:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] WTD:
Message-ID: <MW4PR07MB85727D0BC57E763624AB290DB2F99@MW4PR07MB8572.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all :-)
Looking for 2 complete differential units for a GT6. 
Prefer close to the PNW.

Thx
T

Sent from my iPhone


From tedtsimx at bright.net  Thu Aug 12 14:10:45 2021
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:10:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup T. shirt
Message-ID: <e3fb5ea2-89c2-a6fc-cf13-463d56e7913d@bright.net>

 ?Hi Group.? Just came across 1 new Kastner Cup 2020 t.shirt, size 
large.? It was left over (unclaimed) from Mid-Ohio event.? If anybody 
needs it, $20 and we pay postage. Thanks. Ted

-- 
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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 12 14:15:16 2021
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:15:16 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup T. shirt
In-Reply-To: <e3fb5ea2-89c2-a6fc-cf13-463d56e7913d@bright.net>
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I don't think Mark Bradackus (I probably butchered that spelling up) ever received his.

Marty

________________________________
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 4:10 PM
To: FOT <FOT at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup T. shirt

 Hi Group.  Just came across 1 new Kastner Cup 2020 t.shirt, size
large.  It was left over (unclaimed) from Mid-Ohio event.  If anybody
needs it, $20 and we pay postage. Thanks. Ted

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From horizonracing at msn.com  Fri Aug 13 13:08:53 2021
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 19:08:53 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
Message-ID: <MW4PR07MB85728969343F994ED8A85A6DB2FA9@MW4PR07MB8572.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All :-)

On behalf of a friend ( I have no financial interest)

located in Charlotte NC

Asking 65K





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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri Aug 13 13:44:43 2021
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 19:44:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
Message-ID: <82602F35-7EF5-4529-9A0D-8A0BFF3D8848@mhc-law.com>

Where in CLT?  That?s where I am.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Hi All :-)
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> On behalf of a friend ( I have no financial interest) 
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> Asking 65K 
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> 
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri Aug 13 13:47:02 2021
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 19:47:02 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
Message-ID: <860970F1-4980-4392-A46B-4D2D02C59EF8@mhc-law.com>

Kind of looks like one Vernon had.

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> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> ?
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> On behalf of a friend ( I have no financial interest) 
> 
> located in Charlotte NC 
> 
> Asking 65K 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
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> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri Aug 13 13:51:30 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 14:51:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR 8 Race car for sale
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Slagle Car?

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Aug 13, 2021, at 2:50 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Where in CLT?  That?s where I am.
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Aug 14 07:10:59 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 09:10:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dale Oesterle
Message-ID: <5D253C0F-26A9-4615-A5B9-85F4C8CECC4F@me.com>

Hi, Dale, please contact me off line.

Thanks,
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Sun Aug 15 09:32:50 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:32:50 -0000
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Kastner Cup Awarded,
 Videos Showcase Woodward Car Owners, Revolante Will Highlight Jim Clark
In-Reply-To: <CAJRV2eatwme_4B_KF9WuucMDr1PSC0PXKnUUdtgHQKtFWzLbng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1136980574977.1102444951134.1725086925.0.1611001JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com>
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Me, too! Nice pic, Shawn.
?Captain Slow ?


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On Thursday, July 29, 2021, 12:52 PM, Shawn Frank via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Glad they used the group shot. V for victory!

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 9:57 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

   It's good to see this prominent announcement and article in my email this morning and thought I should share it.   Cheers,   Dave H.  
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Aug 18 13:55:26 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:55:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
Message-ID: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>

For those who like these, here we go...

Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I move up 
from my qualifying spot

https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ

Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some 
good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down from me)

https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY

Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle 
holding off Andrew Moore's spridget

https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc

Cheers, Tony Drews



From michaelndeweerd at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 05:23:37 2021
From: michaelndeweerd at gmail.com (Michael Deweerd)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 07:23:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
In-Reply-To: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
References: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Great videos Tony ?.man? do I ever miss Grattan what a fun track.
I noticed that your camera seems to move left to right during the race. Is
that the type of camera or is it the mount that does that?
Inquiring minds want to know  lol
Cheers
Mike Deweerd

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> For those who like these, here we go...
>
> Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I move up
> from my qualifying spot
>
> https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ
>
> Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some
> good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down from me)
>
> https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY
>
> Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle
> holding off Andrew Moore's spridget
>
> https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc
>
> Cheers, Tony Drews
>
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 20 07:18:08 2021
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:18:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
In-Reply-To: <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
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Message-ID: <846558197.565716.1629465488015@mail.yahoo.com>

 That "panning action" is a function that some of the newer action cameras have. It's built into the software that scans the CCD sensor.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Friday, August 20, 2021, 7:27:13 AM EDT, Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Great videos Tony ?.man? do I ever miss Grattan what a fun track.I noticed that your camera seems to move left to right during the race. Is that the type of camera or is it the mount that does that??Inquiring minds want to know??lol?Cheers?Mike Deweerd?
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

For those who like these, here we go...

Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I move up 
from my qualifying spot

https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ

Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some 
good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down from me)

https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY

Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle 
holding off Andrew Moore's spridget

https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc

Cheers, Tony Drews

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Aug 20 09:19:45 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:19:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race videos from Grattan Raceway last weekend
In-Reply-To: <CAHAH3R6EPAzb81UFbXdNz23Uz231n1J3kPp_RoBbFG8OfFSdWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dde230-77a7-a3da-bfcf-3011d28ca66d@tonydrews.com>
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Message-ID: <1576c3d4-1a23-d895-08bb-017a03b0d2a8@tonydrews.com>

The left / right panning is done within the camera - it's solid 
mounted.? It's apparently an image stabilization deal in the newer 
GoPro's.? I'm recording at "High Def" (1920 x 1080), but it's capable of 
4K so has more image capability than I'm using.? Even at that recording 
definition I use up a bunch of space on the memory card - get 3 to 5 4gb 
files per race.

It took me by surprise the first time I used it, and sometimes it pans 
left when the cars are really to the right, but I've decided it's a cool 
effect and I generally like it.? The video quality is better than the 
GoPro Hero4 I used to use.

Cheers, Tony

On 8/20/2021 6:23 AM, Michael Deweerd wrote:
> Great videos Tony ?.man? do I ever miss Grattan what a fun track.
> I noticed that your camera seems to move left to right during the 
> race. Is that the type of camera or is it the mount that does that?
> Inquiring minds want to know??lol
> Cheers
> Mike Deweerd
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     For those who like these, here we go...
>
>     Saturday Sprint Race - nice battle with various cars all race, I
>     move up
>     from my qualifying spot
>
>     https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ <https://youtu.be/bIEJV8o4wBQ>
>
>     Saturday Heat Race - epic battle with Rick Gurolnick in his 356. Some
>     good post-race banter at the end too (Rick was a few garages down
>     from me)
>
>     https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY <https://youtu.be/pHrdJYewjIY>
>
>     Sunday Feature Race - not as much passing, but hard fought battle
>     holding off Andrew Moore's spridget
>
>     https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc <https://youtu.be/e-t9ohx8koc>
>
>     Cheers, Tony Drews
>
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Fri Aug 20 16:57:23 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 22:57:23 +0000
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
Message-ID: <b26b5de25a353c85e941770f8f1ba0226987ba01@webmail>

TR2 started last week ran fine chased down an oil leak and car
wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contacts and have
good spare there. suspect coil didn't like key on for days.
I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got a very weak
spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther?? comments?
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Aug 21 01:10:46 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 09:10:46 +0200
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
In-Reply-To: <b26b5de25a353c85e941770f8f1ba0226987ba01@webmail>
References: <b26b5de25a353c85e941770f8f1ba0226987ba01@webmail>
Message-ID: <005801d7965b$aa8237d0$ff86a770$@gmail.com>

Hi,

 

Maybe the condenser is dead?

Coil might be cooked too.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von T. R. Householder via Fot
Gesendet: Samstag, 21. August 2021 00:57
An: 'fot at autox.team.net' <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] weak spark

 

TR2 started last week ran fine  chased down an oil leak and car wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contacts and have good spare  there. suspect coil didn't like key on for days.

 

I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got a very weak spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther?? comments?

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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Sat Aug 21 11:15:15 2021
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 17:15:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
Message-ID: <79d6d636231035b80e6a5473224bbbd84383b144@webmail>

FRIED THE COIL! 
FYI

	-----------------------------------------From: "T. R. Householder via
Fot" 
To: "fot at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Friday August 20 2021 7:00:11PM
Subject: [Fot] weak spark

 TR2 started last week ran fine chased down an oil leak and car
wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contacts and have
good spare there. suspect coil didn't like key on for days. 
 I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got a very
weak spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther?? comments?
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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 21 11:28:50 2021
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 17:28:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] weak spark
In-Reply-To: <79d6d636231035b80e6a5473224bbbd84383b144@webmail>
References: <79d6d636231035b80e6a5473224bbbd84383b144@webmail>
Message-ID: <180762950.196804.1629566930771@mail.yahoo.com>

Makes perfect sense

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:17 AM, T. R. Householder via Fot<fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   FRIED THE COIL!?
FYI


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From: "T. R. Householder via Fot" 
To: "fot at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Friday August 20 2021 7:00:11PM
Subject: [Fot] weak spark

TR2 started last week ran fine ?chased down an oil leak andcar wouldn't start.. Left Key on for several days. clean contactsand have good spare ?there. suspect coil didn't like key onfor days.
I did clean the points again with some wed dry 220 and got avery weak spark at plug .. not enough to start it on eIther??comments? _______________________________________________
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 07:07:02 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 08:07:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Display Pavilion arrives in Pittsburgh.
Message-ID: <1DB3909C-A683-40CE-90E9-D6A163B892AD@gmail.com>

FOT:

Dusty Nicholson delivered the Display Pavilion during this years PVGP.

Our great Texas Triumph friends donated this pavilion to us. Gary Kincel, Chair of the British Sports Car Hall of Fame agreed to be its caretaker and custodian.

Expect it to used in some way at the next Kastner Cup at the PVGP.  Triumph people working together??thanks to all involved.

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From jeffsnook01 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 14:55:42 2021
From: jeffsnook01 at gmail.com (Jeff Snook)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:55:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
Message-ID: <006d01d79798$12850690$378f13b0$@com>

Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the
VSCDA website is pretty limited.
 
Jeff Snook
419-344-0319
www.snooksdreamcars.com
 
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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 22 15:23:50 2021
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 21:23:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
In-Reply-To: <006d01d79798$12850690$378f13b0$@com>
References: <006d01d79798$12850690$378f13b0$@com>
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Jeff,Jake and Karen Jacobsen will be (I'm just Sprite trash, but she is running her TR6).?
Jake

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Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?? The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.

 ?

Jeff Snook

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www.snooksdreamcars.com

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 15:46:38 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 17:46:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 6 Triumphs at last nights Midnight Madness race at Thompson
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVa-Abebcj+3JnTCMeCa2hqdNSFP0GceCfEy=yukURUGsA@mail.gmail.com>

Fun time with a great FOT turn out for the night sprints at Thompson. The
Historic Racing Group had our own run group, under the lights, at an SCCA
Regional . 6 Triumphs were there for the 2nd incarnation of the event. We
were able to pull it off, while under a Hurricane watch in clear, dry
conditions.
The track is lit up, cars are required to have rain lights. No headlights
are allowed but marker lights are encouraged. Special mention of Dave
Gott's TR4, with the green LED inserts, for a nice interpretation of the
rules.

FOTs there included TR4 squad featuring the father and son team of Phil and
Dave Gott,  Joe Boruch, Michael Leccesse, The TR6 of Bob Lang, and Mike
Harmuth in his Spitfire.

Youtube links for clips from the false grid and the start of the race.

mike h

false grid
https://youtu.be/PVhTtZZa6NM
Pace Lap
https://youtu.be/f-t0yy_Cv68
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From paulricco at att.net  Sun Aug 22 15:48:00 2021
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:48:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
In-Reply-To: <302151714.686449.1629667430835@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <302151714.686449.1629667430835@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A0F40BA4-7F4C-4516-8DDD-E93EB7DE7303@att.net>

Jeff,

We are maybe on RA. We would prefer to be at VIR with SVRA the following week. However, RA may fit into out schedule better which would bring us there. 

Paul Ricco

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> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Jeff,
> Jake and Karen Jacobsen will be (I'm just Sprite trash, but she is running her TR6). 
> 
> Jake
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:56 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot
> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
> 
>  
> 
> Jeff Snook
> 
> 419-344-0319
> 
> www.snooksdreamcars.com
> 
>  
> 
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sun Aug 22 15:58:08 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:58:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
In-Reply-To: <006d01d79798$12850690$378f13b0$@com>
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I'll be there in my TR-4.? Looked like the entry list wasn't being 
updated in real time.

Cheers, Tony Drews

On 8/22/2021 3:55 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot wrote:
>
> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?The list of entries on 
> the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
>
> Jeff Snook
>
> 419-344-0319
>
> www.snooksdreamcars.com
>
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Sun Aug 22 20:20:56 2021
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 02:20:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 6 Triumphs at last nights Midnight Madness race at
 Thompson
In-Reply-To: <CAO0FjVa-Abebcj+3JnTCMeCa2hqdNSFP0GceCfEy=yukURUGsA@mail.gmail.com>
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I didn?t even know about this!?Wait, did you need headlights? I?m out?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 5:47 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Fun time with a great FOT?turn out for the night sprints at Thompson. The Historic Racing Group had our own run group, under the lights, at an SCCA Regional . 6 Triumphs were there for the 2nd incarnation of the event. We were able to pull it off, while under a Hurricane watch in clear, dry conditions.?The track is lit up, cars are required to have rain lights. No headlights are allowed but marker lights are encouraged. Special mention of Dave Gott's TR4, with the green LED inserts, for a nice interpretation of the rules.
FOTs there included TR4 squad featuring the father and son team of Phil and Dave Gott,? Joe Boruch, Michael Leccesse, The TR6 of Bob Lang, and Mike Harmuth in his Spitfire.
Youtube links for clips from the false grid and the start of the race.
mike h
false gridhttps://youtu.be/PVhTtZZa6NM
Pace Laphttps://youtu.be/f-t0yy_Cv68
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 23 05:48:04 2021
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 07:48:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 6 Triumphs at last nights Midnight Madness race at
 Thompson
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No headlights could be used, even if you had them.   Track was sufficiently lit, so that headlights not needed.  Joe B

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 10:21 PM, fmccjr via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? I didn?t even know about this! 
> Wait, did you need headlights? I?m out?
> 
> 
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> 
> On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 5:47 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Fun time with a great FOT turn out for the night sprints at Thompson. The Historic Racing Group had our own run group, under the lights, at an SCCA Regional . 6 Triumphs were there for the 2nd incarnation of the event. We were able to pull it off, while under a Hurricane watch in clear, dry conditions. 
> The track is lit up, cars are required to have rain lights. No headlights are allowed but marker lights are encouraged. Special mention of Dave Gott's TR4, with the green LED inserts, for a nice interpretation of the rules.
> 
> FOTs there included TR4 squad featuring the father and son team of Phil and Dave Gott,  Joe Boruch, Michael Leccesse, The TR6 of Bob Lang, and Mike Harmuth in his Spitfire.
> 
> Youtube links for clips from the false grid and the start of the race.
> 
> mike h
> 
> false grid
> https://youtu.be/PVhTtZZa6NM
> Pace Lap
> https://youtu.be/f-t0yy_Cv68
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon Aug 23 07:01:36 2021
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 13:01:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] And Triumphs victorious @ PBIR...
References: <366866525.584065.1629723696008.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <366866525.584065.1629723696008@mail.yahoo.com>

Well in spite of a dismal turnout for our SCCA Vintage race, Mike Jackson hasn't forgotten how to flog the old 3, he picked up a couple P-1s yesterday, and in the last race TRs swept the field (of 5 cars remaining), with a 1/2/3, Mike, Phil H. in his solid-axle 4, and Tim S. in a very tidy 1147 Spit.For the last race, much to his surprise, Phil found himself on pole & Mike was gridded #4.Mike got the 3 up alongside Phil @ the green, and they diced for the first few laps, and then Mike got a bit of a lead, as Phil no doubt was rethinking his tire strategy.The battle for 3rd was great, Tim & a shoe that Mike slipped into the Sandy Beach for the weekend.Those 2 went back & forth the entire race, the Beach had a nearly 2 second lead on the white flag lap but Tim somehow managed a last-corner move on the hun-car and got the 1/2/3.
The best times for all were well within a second, good racing!

Sadly there are very strong rumors that the track will soon be sold for re-development in the foreseeable future...
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 08:57:40 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:57:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Posters and Decals.
Message-ID: <AE9D2E43-C8C9-4AA3-963D-12F64534EB44@gmail.com>

FOT,

In case you missed the first round, we still have posters and decals to dispose of.

Contact me if interested.

Thanks!

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From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Aug 23 15:21:11 2021
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:21:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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I have been reluctantly silent on FOT for far to long but have all the time been lurking in the readership of our great list.
Friendly Ghost Racing will be there tending to the needs of 4 entries at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival. 
Our team of teams will showcase the following great cars and drivers:
In group 6: 
#14 The Cheetah, driven by master mechanic and true Triumph friend Brian Garcia. 
In group 8:
#27 1969 Triumph GT6+ driven by Lifelong GT6 loyalist Jason Ostrowski.
#184 1970 Triumph GT6+ This is currently the fastest GT6 in the country. Driven by Alex Amys. In all my small niche wisdom this GT6 is eye candy and an engineering masterpiece. This father and son build upped the ante and has taken the GT6 to a higher level.
In group 2:
#28 round tail spitfire. Driven by Dave Amys. Wrenching for me and Alex wasn?t enough so; Dave got his comp license this year and added this wonderful Spit to our paddock for this season. Dave is having a blast getting to know the car and is driving it very well. 

Former GT6 hot shoe John Reed will be there handing us our Helmets and making sure we all win. 
Stop by and say hello.
Best wishes,
Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I'll be there in my TR-4.  Looked like the entry list wasn't being updated in real time.
> 
> Cheers, Tony Drews
> 
> On 8/22/2021 3:55 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot wrote:
>> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
>>  
>> Jeff Snook
>> 419-344-0319
>> www.snooksdreamcars.com
>>  
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 18:55:09 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:55:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Road America in September
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Great to hear Jason!  Good luck and fly the flag proudly!

Chuck

> On Aug 23, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I have been reluctantly silent on FOT for far to long but have all the time been lurking in the readership of our great list.
> Friendly Ghost Racing will be there tending to the needs of 4 entries at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival. 
> Our team of teams will showcase the following great cars and drivers:
> In group 6: 
> #14 The Cheetah, driven by master mechanic and true Triumph friend Brian Garcia. 
> In group 8:
> #27 1969 Triumph GT6+ driven by Lifelong GT6 loyalist Jason Ostrowski.
> #184 1970 Triumph GT6+ This is currently the fastest GT6 in the country. Driven by Alex Amys. In all my small niche wisdom this GT6 is eye candy and an engineering masterpiece. This father and son build upped the ante and has taken the GT6 to a higher level.
> In group 2:
> #28 round tail spitfire. Driven by Dave Amys. Wrenching for me and Alex wasn?t enough so; Dave got his comp license this year and added this wonderful Spit to our paddock for this season. Dave is having a blast getting to know the car and is driving it very well. 
> 
> Former GT6 hot shoe John Reed will be there handing us our Helmets and making sure we all win. 
> Stop by and say hello.
> Best wishes,
> Jason Ostrowski 
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> I'll be there in my TR-4.  Looked like the entry list wasn't being updated in real time.
>> 
>> Cheers, Tony Drews
>> 
>> On 8/22/2021 3:55 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot wrote:
>>> Any FOTers racing at Elkhart Lake next month?  The list of entries on the VSCDA website is pretty limited.
>>>  
>>> Jeff Snook
>>> 419-344-0319
>>> www.snooksdreamcars.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 10:47:13 2021
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:47:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Amici,
I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
Thanks,
Dusty Nicholson1955 TR3 #721957 TR3 #43
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Wed Aug 25 11:09:27 2021
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:09:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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That?s hot. I routinely see 220-230 with an oil cooler in a hot TX summer 20 minute race  That?s flat out flogging my car though (you know how I drive). 

I doubt your oil is getting that hot on the street Dusty. Do you have any temperature indicator paint or strips?  Wonder if you could rig something up on the dipstick. Alternatively, get a long probe and dip it into the sump once the temp gauge hits that temp. At least you can correlate temps. 

If it?s accurate, something seems amiss. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:51 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Amici,
> 
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.  Yes?
> 
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185 degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
> 
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
> 
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:14:08 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:14:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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I agree that reading is too hot.  How is the oil consistency?  At 290 it
would be pretty thin.  I would add an oil cooler regardless at the earliest
opportunity.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Aug 25 11:34:46 2021
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:34:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Agreed. My GT6 runs about 220 at full temp in hot weather with an oil cooler. My street bmw 135i runs 230. 
Generally I?ve heard anything over 240 is not beneficial.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I agree that reading is too hot.  How is the oil consistency?  At 290 it would be pretty thin.  I would add an oil cooler regardless at the earliest opportunity.
> 
> Bob Kramer
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Amici,
>> 
>> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.  Yes?
>> 
>> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185 degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
>> 
>> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>> 
>> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dusty Nicholson
>> 1955 TR3 #72
>> 1957 TR3 #43
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:38:14 2021
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:38:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Thank you on the posters.   Portland & Kas Prints.
Message-ID: <621D1B25-7BB9-49E8-B5C7-6E7930000656@gmail.com>

My stash of Portland Posters are gone. Ten Kas Kastner Commemorative Prints, by Clark Lincoln,  are going to Toni Kastner Moran with the balance going to the UK.

The good news is that I think Curt Johnston has some inventory.   

I have Kastner Decals and FOT Decals, left, if anyone remains interested.

Toni Kastner Moran was really taken with the Clark Lincoln Print. Her appreciation of this made the whole project worth while.

Thank you, Clark Lincoln. Shawn Frank is also doing his part to advance the Kastner Legacy.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Wed Aug 25 11:43:10 2021
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 17:43:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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 Oil cooler & I think I would be doing a bearing check too...
Glen Efinger
 
 
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From: dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 25, 2021 12:47 pm
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp

Amici,
I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
Thanks,
Dusty Nicholson1955 TR3 #721957 TR3 #43_______________________________________________
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:48:09 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:48:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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I meant to ask if the engine has a lot of blowby.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:14 PM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree that reading is too hot.  How is the oil consistency?  At 290 it
> would be pretty thin.  I would add an oil cooler regardless at the earliest
> opportunity.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Amici,
>>
>> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
>> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
>> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
>> high to me.  Yes?
>>
>> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
>> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
>> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
>> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
>> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
>> the oil temp.
>>
>> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
>> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>>
>> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
>> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
>> weekend.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dusty Nicholson
>> 1955 TR3 #72
>> 1957 TR3 #43
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 11:57:02 2021
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:57:02 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Looking at the problem from another point of view, I would question the
accuracy of the gauge. If you are seeing a 120 degree difference, something
isn't right. Is the guage mechanical or electrical? If it is electrical,
there could be a mismatch between the sensor and the guage. I'd try another
guage if you have one.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Aug 25 12:00:02 2021
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:00:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Since the oil temp sensor is in the oil pan and the IR reading is over 
100 degrees less than the gauge is reading, I'm voting for a bad gauge 
on this one.? If it REALLY is 290, that's too hot, but if it really is 
290 you'd get a much higher reading with IR temp gun on the pan too.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 8/25/2021 11:47 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote:
> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil 
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil 
> temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 
> 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
>
> More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 
> 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil 
> cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp 
> gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp 
> gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the 
> outside of the pan and the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my 
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks 
> at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it 
> through the weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
>
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 12:16:34 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:16:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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 supercharger with the medium size pulley

By any chance is there an oil return line from the supercharger near the
temp gauge?

mike h


On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Amici,
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1955 TR3 #72
> 1957 TR3 #43
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 14:35:04 2021
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 20:35:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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 Thanks guys, all the responses to the group and me individually are very helpful and appreciated.? My responses and summary:
   
   - I already suspected the sensor or gauge were inaccurate, after your responses I'm even more confident that's what's going on.? I will be snaking a thermocouple down the dip stick tube right after shut down to get a comparison reading.? If needed, I might also put the sensor in boiling water to test accuracy.? One idea suggested is that if I have a 10V gauge hooked up to 12V it could give a 20% higher reading therefore 290 degrees is actually 232 degrees.? Y'all have no shortage of ideas I never thought of.
   - I will take your collective advice and add an oil cooler and high flow thermostat to allow the oil when cold to reach temperature.? My previous FP Spitfire didn't need one as it ran too cool with a huge cross flow radiator even with the fan off (only used the fan on the grid).? I guess TR3's are a different animal.
   - There is no oil return line from supercharger near the oil temp sensor.? I think that was the question from Mike H.
   - I will be removing the supercharger and going back to SU's... at the same time that I raise the compression and maybe swap to a lumpier cam.? But that won't happen until after a race weekend or two, CVAR Authenticity Steward is giving me time to get compliant.? I don't want to give up the supercharger power until I can gain at least some of it back!??
Thanks,

Dusty Nicholson

1955 TR3 #72

1957 TR3 #43


    On Wednesday, August 25, 2021, 02:56:25 PM CDT, Barr, Scott <sbarr at mccarty-law.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hear, hear!? I don?t believe the gauge if you?re getting 170 measuring the pan and the pan is where the sender is for the oil temp.? I?d try a new sender and a new gauge before I tore it all apart.
 
 ?
 
And you said it?s a race car not a street car???? Did no one else say ?wait?..supercharger???? I?m not one of those originality over all guys, and think a supercharger on a race car is a cool addition.
 
 ?
 
Scott (B.)
 
 ?
 
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf OfDoug Mitchell via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:57 PM
To: dustin nicholson <nicholsondustin at yahoo.com>
Cc: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil temp
 
 ?
 
Looking at the problem from another point of view, I would question the accuracy of the gauge. If you are seeing a 120 degree difference, something isn't right. Is the guage mechanical or electrical? If it is electrical, there could be a mismatch between the sensor and the guage. I'd try another guage if you have one.
 
 ?
 
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

Amici,
 
 ?
 
I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.? I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.? Yes?
 
 ?
 
More temp info:? Air temp is near 100 degrees.? Water temp is steady 185 degrees.? Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.? No oil cooler.? Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.? IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.? Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?? I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.
 
 ?
 
Engine info:? mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
 
 ?
 
Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.? I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.
 
 ?
 
Thanks,
 
 ?
 
Dusty Nicholson
 
1955 TR3 #72
 
1957 TR3 #43
 
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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Wed Aug 25 15:49:55 2021
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 07:49:55 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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i offer general comments from trying to understand this issue with modern
race engines, however in days gone bye , i had my share of issues with oil
pressures in race 2500 enignes

simplistically, high temperatures result in loss of kinematic viscosity and
therefore reducing both pressure and metal-to-metal protection

in extreme cases, molecular bonds can get broken and not fully or even
partially recover, so oil can be irrevocably "damaged" and the operator
cant tell that unless the oil gets tested

most oils are tested and rated at 90C, so about 200F. experiments suggest
about 250F is the point where most off-the-shelf oils can exhibit
significant degradation in many properties, especially kinematic viscosity

dont forget, the temperature at a contact surface could be momentarily (and
locally) much higher than what a probe in the sump might indicate as an
'average"

most oil suppliers will tell you if the oil temperature is much in excess
of water temperature, you need to address that

if a reliable sump probe is indicating the oil there is much over 220F, i'd
be doing more study to get to the bottom of the issue.

if you are trying to select an oil for a race engine, go looking at the
data on kinematic viscosity at  the 90C (test point)  and that will give a
clue to the oil that will best hold its viscosity at elevated temperatures.

Terry

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 6:37 AM dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks guys, all the responses to the group and me individually are very
> helpful and appreciated.  My responses and summary:
>
>
>    - I already suspected the sensor or gauge were inaccurate, after your
>    responses I'm even more confident that's what's going on.  I will be
>    snaking a thermocouple down the dip stick tube right after shut down to get
>    a comparison reading.  If needed, I might also put the sensor in boiling
>    water to test accuracy.  One idea suggested is that if I have a 10V gauge
>    hooked up to 12V it could give a 20% higher reading therefore 290 degrees
>    is actually 232 degrees.  Y'all have no shortage of ideas I never thought
>    of.
>    - I will take your collective advice and add an oil cooler and high
>    flow thermostat to allow the oil when cold to reach temperature.  My
>    previous FP Spitfire didn't need one as it ran too cool with a huge cross
>    flow radiator even with the fan off (only used the fan on the grid).  I
>    guess TR3's are a different animal.
>    - There is no oil return line from supercharger near the oil temp
>    sensor.  I think that was the question from Mike H.
>    - I will be removing the supercharger and going back to SU's... at the
>    same time that I raise the compression and maybe swap to a lumpier cam.
>    But that won't happen until after a race weekend or two, CVAR Authenticity
>    Steward is giving me time to get compliant.  I don't want to give up the
>    supercharger power until I can gain at least some of it back!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dusty Nicholson
>
> 1955 TR3 #72
>
> 1957 TR3 #43
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021, 02:56:25 PM CDT, Barr, Scott <
> sbarr at mccarty-law.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hear, hear!  I don?t believe the gauge if you?re getting 170 measuring the
> pan and the pan is where the sender is for the oil temp.  I?d try a new
> sender and a new gauge before I tore it all apart.
>
>
>
> And you said it?s a race car not a street car??   Did no one else say
> ?wait?..supercharger???  I?m not one of those originality over all guys,
> and think a supercharger on a race car is a cool addition.
>
>
>
> Scott (B.)
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Doug Mitchell via
> Fot
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:57 PM
> *To:* dustin nicholson <nicholsondustin at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Oil temp
>
>
>
> Looking at the problem from another point of view, I would question the
> accuracy of the gauge. If you are seeing a 120 degree difference, something
> isn't right. Is the guage mechanical or electrical? If it is electrical,
> there could be a mismatch between the sensor and the guage. I'd try another
> guage if you have one.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 12:51 PM dustin nicholson via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Amici,
>
>
>
> I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil
> temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp
> gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems
> high to me.  Yes?
>
>
>
> More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185
> degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil
> temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the
> outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I
> wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and
> the oil temp.
>
>
>
> Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my
> guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas
>
>
>
> Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at
> Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the
> weekend.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dusty Nicholson
>
> 1955 TR3 #72
>
> 1957 TR3 #43
>
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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 18:41:26 2021
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 00:41:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
In-Reply-To: <CA+UW8b3AwtEYZt8nBLcUptBZfYr+cTtFqSQOLwmW0_tg0Pc5WA@mail.gmail.com>
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I agree too hot. I spun a few #2 rod bearings at high temps. I think the ideal temp is around 200f. I got a nice race prepped stock crank which helped and my new engine has a bullet crank which has been great. Probably because of the guy who built it. He is a for guy too. I am not sure if he wants to build more engines. He can chime in he likes.

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 26 00:00:03 2021
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 08:00:03 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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Hi,

 

that is a close to death temperature where the oil starts to suffer and ages.

It indicates friction inside the engine somewhere. Many times it is rod or crank bearings that cause high oil temperature, when things start to go wrong.

 

Infrared temperature sensors:

There are things to know about them to measure correctly:

1.	They work like a photo camera, they have an objective aperture ? in most cases a wide angle objective 1/20 or 1/12 = means 1? away measures a surface of 20? or 12?!!!
2.	The laser point is NOT the spot you?re measure, it is only the direction you measure
3.	If you want to spot measure something, get as close as possible to that spot as you can?.if the surface is not too hot, touch it with the sensor
4.	Metallic surfaces give wrong readings, cause by the Maxwell theorem. Means, your readings will be too low. To compensate this problem, paint the metallic surface or of that is not possible, put a peace of tape (any color) and spot measure on this tape snippet.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von dustin nicholson via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. August 2021 18:47
An: FOT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] Oil temp

 

Amici,

 

I'm sorting out a new to me race car and don't like that the oil temperature gauge reads around 290 degrees.  I've never had an oil temp gauge on previous cars so I'm not sure what's normal (240?) but 290 seems high to me.  Yes?

 

More temp info:  Air temp is near 100 degrees.  Water temp is steady 185 degrees.  Big aluminum radiator with electric fan.  No oil cooler.  Oil temp sensor is in the aluminum finned oil pan.  IR temp gun says the outside of the pan is 170 degrees.  Maybe the oil temp gauge is wrong?  I wouldn't expect such a big difference between the outside of the pan and the oil temp.

 

Engine info:  mild engine, stock compression, fast road cam (270 is my guess), supercharger with the medium size pully, pump gas

 

Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.  I just know that racing in 2 weeks at Eagles Canyon in Texas is going to be hot and I want to make it through the weekend.

 

Thanks,

 

Dusty Nicholson

1955 TR3 #72

1957 TR3 #43

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From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Fri Aug 27 18:21:39 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:21:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speedo/Tach Clamps for TR3/TR6
Message-ID: <33E7B29A-D1CC-49EE-8DA9-753DADC30AD4@wi.rr.com>

FoT

Does anyone have any original clamps that hold the speedometer or tachometer in the dash of a TR3/TR6? They have the offset leg that measures just over 1?.
Thanks for any assistance!

Allen

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From spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com  Sat Aug 28 07:29:02 2021
From: spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 09:29:02 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire/GT-6 Mainshaft
Message-ID: <002601d79c10$ab1b45a0$0151d0e0$@rr.com>

Does anyone have the diameter dimension of the nose on the front of the
transmission mainshaft? This is the area typically that gets worn. I need to
sleeve a couple. Hence the inquiry. Years back I used a SS sleeve to restore
class of fit.

 

Thanks

Russ Moore  Spitfire #49



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From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Sat Aug 28 11:46:02 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:46:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tach mounting bracets
Message-ID: <BFFFE307-7736-4BEE-A3D8-36E58E77909C@wi.rr.com>

FOT
Thank you for the multiple responses to my request for the mounting brackets.
Jake Jacobsen who is located nearby in Elkhart Lake helped me out.
Thanks again Jake!
Allen

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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sat Aug 28 18:15:48 2021
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:15:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] In-car video from the Thompson Night Race
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVZGx3MKdt-9-p+FD_ZRvvr1LjzEk5Cw-EEVfxDQk9WDLg@mail.gmail.com>

Some good in-car footage from FOTer Dave Gott's TR4. There are 5 other
FOT members in the race, Bob Lang, Joe Boruch, Phil Gott, Michael Leccese
and Mike Harmuth.

https://youtu.be/S-Ld-NAy86k

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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 25 21:05:23 2021
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:05:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil temp
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The rod bearing issues were based on a stock crank. I agree check the bearings and or the oil filter looking for bearing pieces

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From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Sun Aug 29 18:18:39 2021
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 00:18:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?b?SXTigJlzIEthc+KAmSBCaXJ0aGRheS4gUklQLg==?=
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 Rest in Peace, Kas.I am very grateful to have met and known Kas, even it was brief. I met him at my first racing event, the Kastner Cup at Summit Point, 2015. He treated me as if I were a long member of the family, even though I was (and am) a neophyte among the vintage racing community. Thank you, Kas...
Jay De Pol
 
 
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Sent: Sun, Aug 29, 2021 7:51 pm
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 05:49:29 2021
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 06:49:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Interesting Spitfire on Bring a Trailer
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Interesting Spitfire on Bring a Trailer

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Modified 1978 Triumph Spitfire for Charity
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-triumph-spitfire-12/

Spitfire racer Rober MacKenzie has this modified Spitfire for sale on Bring
a Trailer with proceeds going to charity.  There is one day left so please
help him spread the word!

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 11:39:28 2021
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 10:39:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Happy Birthday Kas
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I miss you Pal!

Chuck


From awashatko at wi.rr.com  Tue Aug 31 08:26:58 2021
From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 09:26:58 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Hoosier Speedster Heat Range
Message-ID: <8671F8F1-2542-4A6D-9F37-796DB1B39409@wi.rr.com>

FoT
Does anyone know the recommended heat range a Hoosier Speedster tire should run at? I?m running a 225/50 R15 tire. I?ve looked everywhere and can?t find the info.

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