[Fot] Fwd: Grattan race 2

Sun Sep 13 11:51:38 MDT 2020

3rd attempt: 
[ https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg | https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg ] 
[ https://youtu.be/ofR6plG_gwQ | https://youtu.be/ofR6plG_gwQ ] 
https://youtu.be/WDfCc1QlbKO 
https://youtu.be/6f57pyz9iiQ 

Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> 
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Cc: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> 
Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 19:42:40 
Onderwerp: Fwd: [Fot] Grattan race 2 

[ https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg | https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg ] 
[ https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ | https://youtu.be/ofR6plG_gwQ ] 
[ https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO | https://youtu.be/WDfCc1QlbKO ] 
[ https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ | https://youtu.be/6f57pyz9iiQ ] 
Thes links should be right. 

Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> 
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Cc: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> 
Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 19:37:50 
Onderwerp: Fwd: [Fot] Grattan race 2 

[ https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg | https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg ] 
[ https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ | https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ ] 
[ https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO | https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO ] 
[ https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ | https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ ] 
This should be links to the Zandvoort races (The Netherlands) of September the 11th and 12th. 
My friend Karl Chandeck drove the car all the time. He was very quick : pole position on a grid of 48 cars! But in the race he went off in the 1st lap. That was a big disappointment of course. We repaired the car for the 2nd race. He had to start from last position(45th). After 4 laps he was in 7th position. Then some bad luck came in : the spring inside one of the Weber carburettors broke and hindered the trottle shaft : the trottle stayed partly open and it was impossible to drive the car like that. We did 2 attempts to fix it. After the 1st pit stop, Karl could do some more laps and got the fastest overall laptime of the race with 2'00"490. Without the accident in the first race, he could have finished 1st or 2nd. It's a pity. Karl is a very safe driver, he very seldom has a spin. 
Some of these video's will only be available tomorrow and if the links don't work, you simply can search in youtube with "Marcel Van Mulders". 
Marcel. 

Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> 
Aan: "tr4racing" <tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 09:24:13 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2 

[ https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ | https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ ] 
Some of you may have seen this video of my car at the Hockenheimring some weeks ago : it was eating MG's with ease and also all the other cars except for a lightweight jaguar E-type and a very fast TVR/driver with TR6 engine. So 2' 6" was good for 3rd position on the grid, only half a second slower than the TVR. The secret? IT WAS NOT ME AT THE WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was driving for me : not a prof racer but very fast anyway. Sadly the engine broke : holed engine block and big fire. I was always faster than the MG's but now being 68yrs old, I got slower and slower in the last couple of years without noticing it. I thought it was my car and I worked on it, but I remained in the midfield instead of at the front where I used to be. My car getting faster and me getting slower : the result has been a steady state. With 68yrs one hasn't to be slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But I hope it is not a definite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again. We'll see if I'll succeed, if not, Karl will take over the driving completely. Next race is at Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this space! 
Marcel 

Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Aan: "Michael Deweerd" <michaelndeweerd at gmail.com>, "tr4racing" <tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2 

Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the secret….225Nm. 

Von: tr4racing at gmail.com <tr4racing at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18 
An: 'Michael Deweerd' <michaelndeweerd at gmail.com>; 'tr4racing at googlemail.com' <tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
Cc: 'Kas Kastner' <kaskastner at gmail.com>; 'fot at autox. team. net' <fot at autox.team.net> 
Betreff: AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2 

Mike, 

my engine is really nothing special. 

Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods (I remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webers, that’s all. 

My car is handling great. With good brake pads the standard brakes do very fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at front and rear. 

There you have it. From last to win (okay….I was sat back to 4 th because I accidently overtook under yellow) 

[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaiCLm0yvV4 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaiCLm0yvV4 ] 

Cheers 

Chris 

Von: Michael Deweerd < [ mailto:michaelndeweerd at gmail.com | michaelndeweerd at gmail.com ] > 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54 
An: [ mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com | tr4racing at googlemail.com ] 
Cc: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner at gmail.com | kaskastner at gmail.com ] >; fot at autox. team. net < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > 
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2 

Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!! 175-190hp ?? I’ve not had my new engine on a dyno but I don’t think I’ll have that number Of ponies. 

We should talk because there are some “killer B’s” here in Canada that need squashing lol 

Mike 

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: 

Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight corners. 

But Triumphs do better from my experience. 

My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster than a MG. 

Cheers 

Chris 

Von: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner at gmail.com | kaskastner at gmail.com ] > 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11 
An: MadMarx < [ mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com | tr4racing at googlemail.com ] > 
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2 

I see the same thing here with good Mg's quicker than the TR-4 cars. EXCEPT we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared with the engine (bigger) and they are much better than the M.G.'s. I also think the MG's are a lot lighter in weight for all seem very quick out of a corner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot better design to start with than thee TR-4 engine. Way back in years I built MG engines and they were excellent in using high revs and very reliable. 

Never be beaten by equipment. 

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: 

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Very well driven. 

Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that quick? 

Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-) 

What power do they make? 

Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp range. 

Cheers 

Chris 

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: 

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Another Grattan video. Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB 

and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4. 13 minutes of full-on racing. 

[ https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c | https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c ] 

Cheers, Tony Drews 

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