From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  1 08:33:06 2020
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 15:33:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
 =?utf-8?q?ent=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <20201031202112.04A53A1050@autox.team.net>
References: <6311138E-6F48-44B7-8B1C-5A646B2906D3@gmail.com>
 <20201031202112.04A53A1050@autox.team.net>
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Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
Mike


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On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.From: Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.

FOT,

We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.

Any interest?? Trying to set priorities.

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 08:49:57 2020
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 09:49:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 
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Mike,

Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.

Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ? Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.
> From: Joe Alexander via Fot
> Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.
> 
> FOT,
> 
> We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.
> 
> Any interest?  Trying to set priorities.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
> 
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sun Nov  1 13:27:05 2020
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 14:27:05 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speedie sleeve for diff flange
Message-ID: <03F28434-3A74-435B-86EB-6F534005770C@icloud.com>

Does anyone know if this is the appropriate speedie sleeve for the diff input for TR3-6?

skf 99150

Thanks. 
Greg


Sent from my iPhone

From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  1 13:33:42 2020
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 20:33:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 
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In-Reply-To: <DCC9BAB9-DE95-4C0F-A619-A3F528ABFBE9@gmail.com>
References: <2048476371.1058069.1604244787000@mail.yahoo.com>
 <DCC9BAB9-DE95-4C0F-A619-A3F528ABFBE9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1456505518.1111887.1604262822257@mail.yahoo.com>

It would be cool to have one with a full radius opening like the velocity stacks.Mike


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 9:49 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:

Mike,
Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.
Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.

Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711


On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:



?Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
Mike


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.From: Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.

FOT,

We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.

Any interest?? Trying to set priorities.

_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 13:47:13 2020
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 14:47:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 
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In-Reply-To: <1456505518.1111887.1604262822257@mail.yahoo.com>
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Yes. That was my thinking when we were discussing the metal spinning tooling design.

Like the Kastner designed Velovity Stack.  A blanking operation and two forming operations.   The first run will be 100 pieces. 

Thanks for mentioning this.

Sure loved riding in one of your new Corvettes. What a masterpiece.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ? It would be cool to have one with a full radius opening like the velocity stacks.
> Mike
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 9:49 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.
> 
> Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> ? Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.
>> From: Joe Alexander via Fot
>> Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.
>> 
>> FOT,
>> 
>> We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.
>> 
>> Any interest?  Trying to set priorities.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>> 
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Nov  1 19:36:52 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 21:36:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 
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Message-ID: <54F66778-6E63-4CF0-B87D-458B6EE7FE0A@aol.com>

Joe:
Do you have a picture or drawing of what it would look like?
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Yes. That was my thinking when we were discussing the metal spinning tooling design.
> 
> Like the Kastner designed Velovity Stack.  A blanking operation and two forming operations.   The first run will be 100 pieces. 
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this.
> 
> Sure loved riding in one of your new Corvettes. What a masterpiece.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> ? It would be cool to have one with a full radius opening like the velocity stacks.
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 9:49 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.
>> 
>> Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ? Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.
>>> From: Joe Alexander via Fot
>>> Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
>>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.
>>> 
>>> FOT,
>>> 
>>> We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.
>>> 
>>> Any interest?  Trying to set priorities.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>> 
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 08:53:08 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 09:53:08 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speedie sleeve for diff flange
In-Reply-To: <03F28434-3A74-435B-86EB-6F534005770C@icloud.com>
References: <03F28434-3A74-435B-86EB-6F534005770C@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWsJ805_cjK=YcFovE=ej2Q3ZmBS9PBzEvjB_a3KbqNMVA@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/68859-new-front-diff-seal-leaking/

forum responses say it is 99149

I think I have one in a box at home.  Come to think of it, it is probably
an empty box saved so I would know what to buy next time.


Bob Kramer


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 2:27 PM Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Does anyone know if this is the appropriate speedie sleeve for the diff
> input for TR3-6?
>
> skf 99150
>
> Thanks.
> Greg
>
>
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From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Tue Nov  3 21:12:59 2020
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Michael Porters collection
Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5@gmail.com>

Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and is over 1,000 miles away, 

It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. 

I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance involvement. 

I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly. Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. 

Ken Gano

Sent from my iPad

From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Nov  3 22:34:36 2020
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:34:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
In-Reply-To: <158628208.2096398.1603479989306@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <158628208.2096398.1603479989306@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a70c1c01-7eac-9e9d-98ba-31c62293310a@bradakis.com>

And also this.? Sigh.

mjb.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
Date: 	Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: 	John Young <jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com>
To: 	



Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter 
and Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father 
passed away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very 
hectic dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're 
going to do with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone 
away. I have some engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do 
something like rebuild one of these cars.

I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. 
I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. 
Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in 
Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). 
Randall also helped me pack my father's garage_s_, yes plural, when we 
moved from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or 
tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. 
And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.

Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these 
parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live 
anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does 
who could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the 
assistance. That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify 
their time.

I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone 
that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those 
things.

If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I 
scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone 
that might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the 
email on to them too.

Thank you,
Janice Morgan
yojanice at yahoo.com
765-404-4017 - call or text


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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Wed Nov  4 08:14:12 2020
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 08:14:12 -0700
Subject: [Fot] COTA
Message-ID: <035d01d6b2bd$27f5c6b0$77e15410$@hot-tr6.com>

Hello any FOT members that might be attending the SVRA COTA event this
weekend. I'm positioned in line at the entrance to lot F just waiting for
things to open. I'm setting directly across from the SVRA trailer in my
black Ford Excursion with a black trailer. Swing by and say "Hi" to give me
a call on my cell if you wish.

Walt Hollowell

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 08:56:35 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 09:56:35 -0600
Subject: [Fot] COTA
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Message-ID: <CABFvdWtPJYKn7njn46LwSA8UngpczO9AJ2kmuN9Sc6aPiCMsaA@mail.gmail.com>

A couple of us are helping in Tech.  See you there!

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:15 AM Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello any FOT members that might be attending the SVRA COTA event this
> weekend. I?m positioned in line at the entrance to lot F just waiting for
> things to open. I?m setting directly across from the SVRA trailer in my
> black Ford Excursion with a black trailer. Swing by and say ?Hi? to give me
> a call on my cell if you wish.
>
> Walt Hollowell
>
> Cell 505 362-4350
>
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From joeg at neb.rr.com  Wed Nov  4 16:31:39 2020
From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 17:31:39 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE & Michael Porters
 collection
Message-ID: <002901d6b302$a5a419f0$f0ec4dd0$@neb.rr.com>

Ken - (or anyone who knows) Where is Michael's daughter located?

Also - I sent an email to Janice Morgan, offering to help. I'm in the region
every once in a while, and retired now so have some time. I'm thinking it
will require a trip down to Southern Missouri to take a bunch of photos and
then start listing stuff for sale where and when appropriate. Anyone else on
board or thinking about it? Would be happy to help if I can.

Joe Guinan
Fremont, NE

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600
From: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>
To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>, Listserv Triumph
	<triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Michael Porters collection
Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating
his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and
is over 1,000 miles away, 

It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like
there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. 

I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance
involvement. 

I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly.
Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. 

Ken Gano

Sent from my iPad

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:34:36 -0700
From: Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
Message-ID: <a70c1c01-7eac-9e9d-98ba-31c62293310a at bradakis.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

And also this.? Sigh.

mjb.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
Date: 	Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: 	John Young <jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com>
To: 	



Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter and
Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father passed
away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very hectic
dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're going to do
with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone away. I have some
engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do something like rebuild one of
these cars.

I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. 
I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. 
Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in
Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). 
Randall also helped me pack my father's garage_s_, yes plural, when we moved
from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or
tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. 
And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.

Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these
parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live
anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does who
could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the assistance.
That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify their time.

I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone
that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those
things.

If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I
scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone that
might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the email on
to them too.

Thank you,
Janice Morgan
yojanice at yahoo.com
765-404-4017 - call or text



From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 17:57:20 2020
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 18:57:20 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE & Michael Porters
 collection
In-Reply-To: <002901d6b302$a5a419f0$f0ec4dd0$@neb.rr.com>
References: <002901d6b302$a5a419f0$f0ec4dd0$@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CD1C19E5-0236-466E-82EB-7DEE1A34F69D@gmail.com>

Roswell, New Mexico 

Kg

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Ken - (or anyone who knows) Where is Michael's daughter located?
> 
> Also - I sent an email to Janice Morgan, offering to help. I'm in the region
> every once in a while, and retired now so have some time. I'm thinking it
> will require a trip down to Southern Missouri to take a bunch of photos and
> then start listing stuff for sale where and when appropriate. Anyone else on
> board or thinking about it? Would be happy to help if I can.
> 
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, NE
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600
> From: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>
> To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>, Listserv Triumph
>    <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Michael Porters collection
> Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating
> his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and
> is over 1,000 miles away, 
> 
> It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like
> there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. 
> 
> I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance
> involvement. 
> 
> I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly.
> Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. 
> 
> Ken Gano
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:34:36 -0700
> From: Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
> Message-ID: <a70c1c01-7eac-9e9d-98ba-31c62293310a at bradakis.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> 
> And also this.? Sigh.
> 
> mjb.
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:    [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
> Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
> From:    John Young <jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com>
> To:    
> 
> 
> 
> Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter and
> Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father passed
> away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very hectic
> dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're going to do
> with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone away. I have some
> engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do something like rebuild one of
> these cars.
> 
> I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. 
> I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. 
> Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in
> Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). 
> Randall also helped me pack my father's garage_s_, yes plural, when we moved
> from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or
> tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. 
> And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.
> 
> Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these
> parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live
> anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does who
> could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the assistance.
> That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify their time.
> 
> I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone
> that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those
> things.
> 
> If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I
> scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone that
> might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the email on
> to them too.
> 
> Thank you,
> Janice Morgan
> yojanice at yahoo.com
> 765-404-4017 - call or text
> 
> 
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Wed Nov  4 18:09:23 2020
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 19:09:23 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Original paint on TR3 rear axle housing
Message-ID: <404FD8EE-9F91-4180-B41C-36AFBBEBD27F@icloud.com>

Folks looking for intel on the original paint scheme used on the TR3 axle housing. More curiosity than anything. Currently rebuilding my son?s differential and rear axles and found that the housing center section or pumpkin is painted red, axles tubes and rear cover are black. This is not the first one I?ve rebuilt with this color scheme. Was this original?  

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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Nov  6 19:42:35 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 21:42:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
Message-ID: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.   If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
 Scott Janzen 

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From sonomascot at aol.com  Fri Nov  6 21:28:45 2020
From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:28:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
In-Reply-To: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
References: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
Message-ID: <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>

https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1970/triumph/tr6/101375016


-----Original Message-----
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To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:44
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.? If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
 Scott Janzen 

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From igofaster at att.net  Sat Nov  7 10:57:13 2020
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 17:57:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
In-Reply-To: <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
 <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>
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 I have a nice 1971 we've had for nearly 25 years... we hardly ever drive it. It's never had a frame off however in the 2 1/2 decades we've owned it I had a really nice down to the metal paint restoration job done on it... it's not perfect but it's damn nice...it appears all the panels are original in their original factory attached locations... also when I redid the dash, all the instruments appeared original to the car...? Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles

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    On Friday, November 6, 2020, 10:29:51 PM CST, Scott Meredith via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1970/triumph/tr6/101375016


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:44
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.? If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
 Scott Janzen 

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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Nov  7 11:32:06 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 13:32:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
In-Reply-To: <2128807929.2866750.1604771833067@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
 <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2128807929.2866750.1604771833067@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B0E58455-21A1-403E-85D8-2E76791BF9D6@me.com>

thanks, Bobby, I?ve gotten a few responses, and right now the guy is focused on one nearer to him on the east coast.

You?ll hear from me if that changes.

Scott

On Nov 7, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Bobby Whitehead via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I have a nice 1971 we've had for nearly 25 years... we hardly ever drive it. It's never had a frame off however in the 2 1/2 decades we've owned it I had a really nice down to the metal paint restoration job done on it... it's not perfect but it's damn nice...it appears all the panels are original in their original factory attached locations... also when I redid the dash, all the instruments appeared original to the car...  Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC7o3DYK7XU>

	
Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles
 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC7o3DYK7XU>



On Friday, November 6, 2020, 10:29:51 PM CST, Scott Meredith via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1970/triumph/tr6/101375016


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:44
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.  If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
Scott Janzen 

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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  7 13:39:55 2020
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 15:39:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] EylCoil
Message-ID: <CAM8wRFF7upw=Ax7MKSHweieQfLpYsBu8RuRfPrK8g7P0QP3mVg@mail.gmail.com>

Can anyone ID this coil?
It was on a
 Healey BN2.
Primary is 4 ohms.
Primary contacts are in the bottom.
Bruce
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Nov  8 10:20:45 2020
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 11:20:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] We just did a run of these. Anybody need one or two?
Message-ID: <67F4BAF7-94AD-4537-9321-67BAEF288FBD@gmail.com>

We also have the tooling design for a cold air intake, but it?s not in production yet. Eligible for Group 8 in SVRA Rick Parent tells me. It will match the other headlamp replacement. But will have a shape like the Kastner Designed Velocity Stacks.    

(I will install the decal for you. There?s a simple trick to it).

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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  9 07:46:42 2020
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:46:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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 Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures me a bit.

Regards.
Jack

    On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hi, all.

 ?

My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.

 ?

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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Nov  9 07:50:07 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 09:50:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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 <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
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I use Heacock and have for years. They are owned by a larger company too.  Only had one claim, which they honored with zero issues.

On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.

Regards.

Jack

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Hi, all.

 
My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.

 
Thanks!

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From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com  Mon Nov  9 07:53:19 2020
From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:53:19 +0000
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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FYI.

It is normal for one insurance carrier to sell their client list to another given the situation below.

Also, I rep two (2) different classic insurance carriers, and Haggerty is the better of the two.

Just my own personal observation.

Larry Ross
Agency Owner

Lawrence Ross Agency
67 Old Clairton Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA. 15236
(412) 655-9990 - office
(412) 780-8495 - cell

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Subject: [External] Re: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies

Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.

Regards.

Jack

On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:



Hi, all.



My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.



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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 07:57:28 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:57:28 -0600
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
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I had begun with Great American and switched to Heagerty after a couple of
years (I don't recall why but it may have had something to do with their
restrictions on the use of my car.  For the last 15 years or so I've been
using Grundy and now have 5 cars insured by them, including three race cars
(coverage doesn't apply while on track).  At the time I switched to Grundy
their usage restrictions seemed to be the least restricting.  Rates were
competitive and responsiveness is first-class.

Duncan

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from
> Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their
> "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5
> cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you
> have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
>
> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking
> for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold
> the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who
> else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others
> have had good experiences with.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From tr4jay at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 08:26:09 2020
From: tr4jay at gmail.com (Jay Galbreath)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:26:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
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Message-ID: <CACh__AkkyJLg=XsOg1d6mRNimapbvQdcqgSMky7eqZDYHkAHgA@mail.gmail.com>

I always felt that the real test of an Insurance  Company was when you make
a claim. I have done that with Hagerty Insurance Co. They were prompt,
accurate and basically said not to worry about any surprise issues in the
repair process. So yes I do recommend. I also have heard good things about
J.C. Taylor.   Jay

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 9:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from
> Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their
> "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5
> cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you
> have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
>
> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking
> for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold
> the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who
> else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others
> have had good experiences with.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 08:38:39 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:38:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <CA+ZF2X3zPs71wUEN6RXhhg_MwXqNKqWT9Ouuvbx_wXEEs+Bgiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
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I've had Haggerty (5 cars) for a couple of years now, including the off
track (but in paddock) insurance of the race car and trailer. Haggerty is
actively pursuing motorsports participants, they even bought
Motorsportsreg.com, the race registration site (probably to get contact
info from active racers). But they do support racing with all kinds of
motorsports (track days, race tickets, etc) events, both free and
discounted, for subscribers. You'll see them at the track, I think they get
it.

I had one claim and they sent a British car specialist from the regional
office to evaluate a GT6 (road car) of mine after an incident. Very
knowledgeable and fair in the assessment of the work. Quick processing of
the paperwork.

mike h

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:05 AM Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I had begun with Great American and switched to Heagerty after a couple of
> years (I don't recall why but it may have had something to do with their
> restrictions on the use of my car.  For the last 15 years or so I've been
> using Grundy and now have 5 cars insured by them, including three race cars
> (coverage doesn't apply while on track).  At the time I switched to Grundy
> their usage restrictions seemed to be the least restricting.  Rates were
> competitive and responsiveness is first-class.
>
> Duncan
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from
>> Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their
>> "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5
>> cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you
>> have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>>
>>
>> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking
>> for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold
>> the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who
>> else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others
>> have had good experiences with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Mgs at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Mon Nov  9 08:39:53 2020
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:39:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
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Hi Guys, I have 4 cars insured through Hagerty; they have always been 
very good in any dealings with them. One Classic, two antique, and one 
race. A few minor restrictions on the Classic and Antique, but more 
restrictions with the state of PA. No commercial use, no towing unless 
to a vintage car show, etc. Total is around $500 a year. Just put my '87 
Chevy square body pickup on Classic plates and Hagerty insurance. Just 
had the Chevy painted; 59k and my dad bought it new in Nov '86. A keeper!

Very warm in NW PA, but I'll enjoy it while I can.

Cheers, Bill

On 11/9/2020 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote:
> Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters 
> from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't 
> like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went 
> up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the 
> positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures 
> me a bit.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am 
> looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy 
> expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to 
> them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, 
> responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.
>
> Thanks!
>
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>
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  9 08:47:37 2020
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:47:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
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 I used Heacock, who placed the coverage with Great American, until I moved to Massachusetts.? Heacock did not seem to be able to deal with the MA required forms, so I went to a local agency who sold Hagerty and have been with them since to cover a street TR4, my race car and my trailer.? I have not had any claims so I can't vouch for how well they do with claims.? Joe B
    On Monday, November 9, 2020, 10:02:51 AM EST, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I use Heacock and have for years. They are owned by a larger company too. ?Only had one claim, which they honored with zero issues.

On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures me a bit.

Regards.
Jack

    On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hi, all.
 ?

My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.
 ?

Thanks!
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 08:51:38 2020
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:51:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <CACh__AkkyJLg=XsOg1d6mRNimapbvQdcqgSMky7eqZDYHkAHgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACh__AkkyJLg=XsOg1d6mRNimapbvQdcqgSMky7eqZDYHkAHgA@mail.gmail.com>
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I had JC Taylor for years (no claims).  I went with them  after USAA was painful on a claim for my Triumph (was in the shop {Mot?rhead} & on mechanic?s test drive a lady in a minivan backed into it).  USAA eventually covered 80% of repairs.
I have race car, race trailer & TR250 w/ Hagerty now.  USAA still covers the rest of the fleet, they are great on newer vehicles.

Terry

> On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:42, Jay Galbreath via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I always felt that the real test of an Insurance  Company was when you make a claim. I have done that with Hagerty Insurance Co. They were prompt, accurate and basically said not to worry about any surprise issues in the repair process. So yes I do recommend. I also have heard good things about J.C. Taylor.   Jay
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 9:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
>> Jack
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, all.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
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From igofaster at att.net  Mon Nov  9 09:24:45 2020
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:24:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <98E75373-ECFE-40DF-A34D-1C0100E1B2C3@gmail.com>
References: <CACh__AkkyJLg=XsOg1d6mRNimapbvQdcqgSMky7eqZDYHkAHgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <98E75373-ECFE-40DF-A34D-1C0100E1B2C3@gmail.com>
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 I've used Haggerty for years..have the 2 race cars, my street TR6, and I've used them for a couple of Miatas and even my 2005 Lotus Elise before I sold it. I had the declare the Elise wasn't to be tracked... it wasn't.as far as insurance in general, do yourself a favor and use a service like compare.com just to , well , compare... when I did I switched to Elephant and saved 100's of dollars...then did the same with our home... I have no loyalty to an insurance company.. my daughter was in the Navy and was using USAAA or whatever they sell to military...she to switched to another company... I check nearly every year...
Bobby Whitehead.... multiple, MULTIPLE, cars, trailers, boats, etc

    On Monday, November 9, 2020, 10:14:35 AM CST, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I had JC Taylor for years (no claims). ?I went with them ?after USAA was painful on a claim for my Triumph (was in the shop {Mot?rhead} & on mechanic?s test drive a lady in a minivan backed into it). ?USAA eventually covered 80% of repairs.I have race car, race trailer & TR250 w/ Hagerty now. ?USAA still covers the rest of the fleet, they are great on newer vehicles.
Terry

On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:42, Jay Galbreath via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?I always felt that the real test of an Insurance? Company was when you make a claim. I have done that with Hagerty Insurance?Co. They were prompt, accurate and basically?said not to worry about any surprise issues in the repair process. So yes I do recommend. I also have heard good things about J.C. Taylor.? ?Jay
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 9:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures me a bit.

Regards.
Jack

    On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hi, all.

 ?

My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.

 ?

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From tony.sheach at live.co.uk  Mon Nov  9 09:36:15 2020
From: tony.sheach at live.co.uk (Tony Sheach)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:36:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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Mike

I have a friend at Hagerty if anyone wants to discuss - he is a fellow rally man so whilst he works there you will get straight answers to questions.

I don?t insure with them mainly due to their requirement for night time garaging, which doesn?t suit me when we are away on road events, but otherwise my assessment was that their cover is good and their intent honourable in the event of a claim (and I know of plenty supporting evidence).

All the best and stay safe.

Tony

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On 9 Nov 2020, at 15:57, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
I've had Haggerty (5 cars) for a couple of years now, including the off track (but in paddock) insurance of the race car and trailer. Haggerty is actively pursuing motorsports participants, they even bought Motorsportsreg.com, the race registration site (probably to get contact info from active racers). But they do support racing with all kinds of motorsports (track days, race tickets, etc) events, both free and discounted, for subscribers. You'll see them at the track, I think they get it.

I had one claim and they sent a British car specialist from the regional office to evaluate a GT6 (road car) of mine after an incident. Very knowledgeable and fair in the assessment of the work. Quick processing of the paperwork.

mike h

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:05 AM Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I had begun with Great American and switched to Heagerty after a couple of years (I don't recall why but it may have had something to do with their restrictions on the use of my car.  For the last 15 years or so I've been using Grundy and now have 5 cars insured by them, including three race cars (coverage doesn't apply while on track).  At the time I switched to Grundy their usage restrictions seemed to be the least restricting.  Rates were competitive and responsiveness is first-class.

Duncan

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.

Regards.

Jack

On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com<mailto:dave at ranteer.com>> wrote:



Hi, all.



My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.



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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Mon Nov  9 15:13:29 2020
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:13:29 -0600
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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I?ve had Heacock for years also. $250 a year covers my race car (HP Spitfire) and trailer (open flatbed). It?s off-track coverage. Never had a claim.

Used to have K&K, got pissed off that they required a complete re-application every year as if it was a new policy. Heacock just bills the renewal. One time they called, ?Do you have a trailer, we?ll cover that too, no extra charge.? I?ve actually about doubled the stated value of the car with no increase in premium (as in, the base premium covered that much, why not?).

What I see of Hagerty I like. If I was shopping a new coverage, I?d likely start there. But I?m very  happy with Heacock.

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Subject: Re: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies

I use Heacock and have for years. They are owned by a larger company too.  Only had one claim, which they honored with zero issues.


On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.


Regards.

Jack


On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote: 


Hi, all.


 
My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.


 
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Mon Nov  9 16:54:02 2020
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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Tue Nov 10 07:39:07 2020
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 07:39:07 -0700
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Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I
raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a
perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while
I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I
have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of
my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best
starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set
my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36
where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on
Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group
for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few
cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it
was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my
revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527
which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really
get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but
I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition
the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public
address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran
the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires,
fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36
cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things
interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past
me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on
running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had
an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a
father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could
pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were
side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little
bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20)
of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both
drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between
our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We
crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don't know which of us broke the
electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings
about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me
dragging it's entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris.
I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he
was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the
Endurance seem expensive but I guess that's the price in the big leagues.
The COTA track is awesome and I'm I  can say I have raced there. Overall I
had a great weekend.

I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next
few days. That will be fun.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico



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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 14:10:19 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 15:10:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
In-Reply-To: <05d701d6b76f$3f37c240$bda746c0$@hot-tr6.com>
References: <05d701d6b76f$3f37c240$bda746c0$@hot-tr6.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWvV8BToM_7WX6xcUJtiPcBKPyd5qwY=tYPzz9xwn7OH2A@mail.gmail.com>

Walt

The attendees really appreciated your rendition of the National Anthem. I
could hear the hand clapping up and down the garages. Great job!

Bob Kramer


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:37 PM Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I
> raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a
> perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT
> while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car
> racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl
> and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that
> the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24
> rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally
> set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three
> practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran
> with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT
> class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by
> the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same
> thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend.
> My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight
> is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving
> deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side.
> On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that
> Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was
> a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo
> with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did
> a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the
> Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my
> mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT,
> Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during
> the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four
> laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were
> side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main
> straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the
> other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of
> us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were
> still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90
> degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche
> went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead
> even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but
> neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the
> feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust
> system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to
> the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also,
> $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive
> but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome
> and I?m I  can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.
>
> I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the
> next few days. That will be fun.
>
> Walter Hollowell
>
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
>
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 22:01:25 2020
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 21:01:25 -0800
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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Sounds like you had a good time Walt.  Sorry I missed out on that trumpet playing!  Looking forward to the videos.

Chuck

> On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:38 AM, walt at hot-tr6.com wrote:
> 
> ?
> Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome and I?m I  can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.
> I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next few days. That will be fun.
> Walter Hollowell
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Wed Nov 11 10:07:46 2020
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:07:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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So car running at end of event, no contact, family w you,?good times...? ?damn the only thing was being in??gp?8 vs 3 . ?And u got the win and smiles. ?And the Anthem.?
You win overall
Mordy

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 On?Wednesday, November 11, 2020,?Chuck Gee via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Sounds like you had a good time Walt. ?Sorry I missed out on that trumpet playing! ?Looking forward to the videos.

Chuck

On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:38 AM, walt at hot-tr6.com wrote:



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Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome and I?m I? can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.

I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next few days. That will be fun.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico


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From steve at artwithcars.com  Wed Nov 11 15:01:04 2020
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:01:04 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Kastner-Brophy "Candy Box Vitesse" at Willow Springs
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Dear FOT,

Here?s Chuck Gee?s exciting Saturday B-Sedan race in the Vitesse!

Crank up the sound!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC5SxoekqCg&feature=youtu.be <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC5SxoekqCg&feature=youtu.be>

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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu Nov 12 08:24:06 2020
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:24:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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Definitely a nice job on the trumpet Walt, thanks!
Please see the attached group sheets, Walt's car was not misclassed and ran exactly where it should have in group 8, the rules have been this way for 30+ years. You may have different classes where ever you race which is fine and I just want everyone to know there was no malice involved classing Walt's car. You may have differing opinions about classifications and that's fine but the rules are the rules wherever you race and its always good to know them in advance so you can be mentally prepared once you get to the track.
https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Svra_Group_3_118-2.pdf
https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Svra_Group_8_2_20.pdf


"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!

 

    On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 12:11:12 PM EST, Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 So car running at end of event, no contact, family w you,?good times...? ?damn the only thing was being in??gp?8 vs 3 . ?And u got the win and smiles. ?And the Anthem.?
You win overall
Mordy

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 On?Wednesday, November 11, 2020,?Chuck Gee via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Sounds like you had a good time Walt. ?Sorry I missed out on that trumpet playing! ?Looking forward to the videos.

Chuck

On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:38 AM, walt at hot-tr6.com wrote:



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Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome and I?m I? can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.

I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next few days. That will be fun.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico


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From steve at artwithcars.com  Fri Nov 13 00:56:11 2020
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 23:56:11 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3 race video from Willow Springs
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Friends,
Hope you enjoy my race video from the VARA Saturday flag race at Willow Springs. 
It was in the 40?s, 25mph winds with rain here and there.  I finished 1st in class and 3rd overall. The caution flags and lap traffic didn?t really work in my favor.  It was the first outing for my fresh engine build. 

https://youtu.be/IPD4kq0ayG8


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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 10:07:20 2020
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:07:20 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3 race video from Willow Springs
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Very cool Steve!  Thanks for sharing.

Chuck

> On Nov 12, 2020, at 11:56 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Friends,
> Hope you enjoy my race video from the VARA Saturday flag race at Willow Springs. 
> It was in the 40?s, 25mph winds with rain here and there.  I finished 1st in class and 3rd overall. The caution flags and lap traffic didn?t really work in my favor.  It was the first outing for my fresh engine build. 
> 
> https://youtu.be/IPD4kq0ayG8
> 
> 
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From billdentin at aol.com  Fri Nov 13 11:55:49 2020
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:55:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 race video from Willow Springs
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VERY, Very nice...
Bill

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Friends,Hope you enjoy my race video from the VARA Saturday flag race at Willow Springs.?It was in the 40?s, 25mph winds with rain here and there. ?I finished 1st in class and 3rd overall. The caution flags and lap traffic didn?t really work in my favor. ?It was the first outing for my fresh engine build.?
https://youtu.be/IPD4kq0ayG8

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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 13 12:47:57 2020
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:47:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer delivery source
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Any suggestions on a company or person that would deliver a 48' gooseneck trailer from Northern Ohio to Fresno California?

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From rick.parent at att.net  Sat Nov 14 18:13:26 2020
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:13:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup, I'll try it on a race motor next.




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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 18:32:14 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:32:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Synchronous or progressive carb?
Duncan

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of
> timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup,
> I'll try it on a race motor next.
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
>
>
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> consequences*"
> Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!
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From rick.parent at att.net  Sat Nov 14 18:34:54 2020
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:34:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Progressive.
Did the PDF files come through for the Graph and Report? I can't tell.

"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!

 

    On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 08:32:56 PM EST, Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Synchronous or progressive carb?Duncan
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup, I'll try it on a race motor next.




"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sat Nov 14 18:42:47 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:42:47 -0800
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Yes.  Good stuff.  Thanks for sharing.
Dave H.

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Progressive.
> 
> Did the PDF files come through for the Graph and Report? I can't tell.
> 
> 
> "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
> Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 08:32:56 PM EST, Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Synchronous or progressive carb?
> Duncan
> 
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup, I'll try it on a race motor next.
> 
> <20201114_155734_resized.jpg>
> 
> 
> 
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> Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Mon Nov 16 17:52:46 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:52:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
Message-ID: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>

I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. 

Questions:
If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? 
If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.

Thanks. looking for feedback.

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From afterapex at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 19:06:36 2020
From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:06:36 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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I have not used that model, but have used this one and like it (needed plywood runners to raise tires enough to clear with my Morgan:  https://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/mid-rise-scissor-lifts/md-6xp/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzoPDzb6I7QIVfz6tBh0bfgu5EAQYASABEgKlivD_BwE <https://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/mid-rise-scissor-lifts/md-6xp/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzoPDzb6I7QIVfz6tBh0bfgu5EAQYASABEgKlivD_BwE>
Advantage with this one over what I see with the quick jack is the max lift height is higher.  

BTW, Home Depot has a lower price (as far as I could see) than Costco: https://www.homedepot.com/p/QUICKJACK-BL-5000SLX-5-000-lbs-Capacity-Portable-Car-Lift-BL-5000SLX-AC-110v/307393222?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA-71700000034127221-58700003933021543-92700031755124763&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_770jr6I7QIVoD6tBh07XAyPEAQYASABEgLe0_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds <https://www.homedepot.com/p/QUICKJACK-BL-5000SLX-5-000-lbs-Capacity-Portable-Car-Lift-BL-5000SLX-AC-110v/307393222?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA-71700000034127221-58700003933021543-92700031755124763&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_770jr6I7QIVoD6tBh07XAyPEAQYASABEgLe0_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds>

Thanks for starting this thread, I am looking for details on a another portable lift to use in a small garage with poor clearance.

Greg in Oakland
1958 Morgan +4

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>  
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.
>  
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>  
> JVV
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 16 19:48:40 2020
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 02:48:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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 I bought a used 3500# QJ.? I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.? It fits between the tires with a few inches clearance.? The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter than the Miata.? I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I have stored one jack under there.? Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500# one?? If so, that may be an issue for you.
It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.? The wheels at one end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple of them.? When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the center underside of the car from the front or back.? Can't just scoot under the side.?
The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.? I bought some extra rubber blocks that fit around the pinch welds.? These same rubber blocks can also be used under the TR frame.??
I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or access to power at the track.
Joe B
    On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. ?Questions:If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.?Thanks. looking for feedback.?JVV_______________________________________________
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 20:58:33 2020
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:58:33 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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I don?t really see the utility. The lift height means you?re still crawling around under the car and you can?t get in from the side?only the ends. You could just jack the car up and use home-made dollies for a fraction of the cost and be able to slide under from sides as well as front and back. I have three of them I made for probably about $200 each. I also have a two post lift, and I?d say a light two post will probably fit in your garage?some are just 8 feet high. You can install them to be easily removable. I?ve seen lifts mounted on rollers. Not that big of a price difference. 

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I bought a used 3500# QJ.  I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.  It fits between the tires with a few inches clearance.  The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter than the Miata.  I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I have stored one jack under there.  Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500# one?  If so, that may be an issue for you.
> 
> It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.  The wheels at one end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple of them.  When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
> 
> One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the center underside of the car from the front or back.  Can't just scoot under the side. 
> 
> The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.  I bought some extra rubber blocks that fit around the pinch welds.  These same rubber blocks can also be used under the TR frame.  
> 
> I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or access to power at the track.
> 
> Joe B
> 
> On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>  
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.
>  
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>  
> JVV
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 06:36:38 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:36:38 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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You didn't mention what your space limitation was, so this may not apply.
My workshop is big enough to accommodate a 2 or 4-post lift but I knew that
I'd constantly find a post to be in the way due to the way the garage is
laid out.  I opted for a 6000-lb capacity single post lift similar to the
one in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV_VgG_KDZg

Some low cars may have to be driven up onto 2X6 planks for the arms to slip
under but once the wheels are off the ground I can maneuver the entire rig
into a corner where it's not in the way.  I can park beneath it if I want
to build spacers but have never done this.

Duncan




On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:55 PM Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so
> instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000
> pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good
> price on the 5000# unit.
>
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>
> JVV
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 11:35:50 2020
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:35:50 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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I found a lousy picture of a different version of the racks i made with the Ambro in it?this one has two wheels per side for the base. I guess I ran out of wheels. you can?t see much, but it might help





> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don?t really see the utility. The lift height means you?re still crawling around under the car and you can?t get in from the side?only the ends. You could just jack the car up and use home-made dollies for a fraction of the cost and be able to slide under from sides as well as front and back. I have three of them I made for probably about $200 each. I also have a two post lift, and I?d say a light two post will probably fit in your garage?some are just 8 feet high. You can install them to be easily removable. I?ve seen lifts mounted on rollers. Not that big of a price difference. 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a used 3500# QJ.  I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.  It fits between the tires with a few inches clearance.  The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter than the Miata.  I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I have stored one jack under there.  Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500# one?  If so, that may be an issue for you.
>> 
>> It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.  The wheels at one end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple of them.  When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
>> 
>> One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the center underside of the car from the front or back.  Can't just scoot under the side. 
>> 
>> The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.  I bought some extra rubber blocks that fit around the pinch welds.  These same rubber blocks can also be used under the TR frame.  
>> 
>> I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or access to power at the track.
>> 
>> Joe B
>> 
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>>  
>> Questions:
>> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
>> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
>> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
>> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.
>>  
>> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>>  
>> JVV
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 12:38:29 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 13:38:29 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
In-Reply-To: <D4658A48-EBD4-48D0-B84D-470C0675E5E0@gmail.com>
References: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>
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Spacious shop but it seems that you managed to fill it up!

Bob Kramer


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:36 PM Bill Babcock via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I found a lousy picture of a different version of the racks i made with
> the Ambro in it?this one has two wheels per side for the base. I guess I
> ran out of wheels. you can?t see much, but it might help
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don?t really see the utility. The lift height means you?re still
> crawling around under the car and you can?t get in from the side?only the
> ends. You could just jack the car up and use home-made dollies for a
> fraction of the cost and be able to slide under from sides as well as front
> and back. I have three of them I made for probably about $200 each. I also
> have a two post lift, and I?d say a light two post will probably fit in
> your garage?some are just 8 feet high. You can install them to be easily
> removable. I?ve seen lifts mounted on rollers. Not that big of a price
> difference.
>
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> I bought a used 3500# QJ.  I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all
> the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.  It fits between the tires
> with a few inches clearance.  The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter
> than the Miata.  I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I
> have stored one jack under there.  Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500#
> one?  If so, that may be an issue for you.
>
> It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.  The wheels at one
> end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple
> of them.  When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
>
> One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the
> center underside of the car from the front or back.  Can't just scoot under
> the side.
>
> The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.  I bought some extra rubber
> blocks that fit around the pinch welds.  These same rubber blocks can also
> be used under the TR frame.
>
> I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is
> portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or
> access to power at the track.
>
> Joe B
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so
> instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000
> pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good
> price on the 5000# unit.
>
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Tue Nov 17 14:42:27 2020
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:42:27 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Lifts
References: <FB228969-4AC1-4ACE-864B-11F09E81510A.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FB228969-4AC1-4ACE-864B-11F09E81510A@aol.com>

Jerry,

I?m a Costco sucker! 3-4 years ago they sold MaxJax at a never again seen price. This is a portable 2 post lift that you bolt to the floor but can unbolt and tuck away. The posts don?t stand more than 7? when in highest position. I installed and never removed because there?s always a car up in it.! Then a year ago Costco starting selling the BL5000SLX Quick Jacks. Thinking I could use this for ?quick jacking? I bought it when they knocked an extra $100 off. Problem is I can?t use it with either my GT6 or TR4IRS race car ?cuz you can?t fit the lifters between tires unless you use a floor jack to lift one end and remove tires. Kinda defeats the purpose! It works with my street cars great!

I think I looked at the 3500 version on the mfrs website and thought it was smaller and might work with LBCs, but I couldn?t get the Costco pricing. If anything, consider the MaxJax with all the benefits of a 2 post lift.

Just my opinion...

John Frymark

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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 17 15:30:21 2020
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 22:30:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Front crankshaft extension
References: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all!?I'm working on my wife's TR6 race car and it has an electric fan, but still has the iron extension that the stock fan bolts to. Is there any reason to leave this in place? Since I know these crankshafts have some wonky (to say the least) harmonics, I wasn't sure if I should remove it.
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From chip at theukmotorsports.com  Tue Nov 17 16:04:00 2020
From: chip at theukmotorsports.com (Chip Collingwood)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:04:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Front crankshaft extension
In-Reply-To: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CABEZ9eGhbP6sbxLoqRkpUDWgPdbHun8Fji57D3KQy9+ce9EbqA@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.pattonmachine.com/Fan-Eliminator-Kit.htm

Chip Collingwood
theukmotorsports.com
(804) 564-1839


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 5:32 PM Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello all!
> I'm working on my wife's TR6 race car and it has an electric fan, but
> still has the iron extension that the stock fan bolts to. Is there any
> reason to leave this in place? Since I know these crankshafts have some
> wonky (to say the least) harmonics, I wasn't sure if I should remove it.
>
> Thanks much,
> Jake Jacobsen
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 17 17:58:02 2020
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:58:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Front crankshaft extension
In-Reply-To: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Plus one for the Patton Machine piece. Goodparts has it too.
Been running them for years, no problems.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 5:31:54 PM EST, Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hello all!?I'm working on my wife's TR6 race car and it has an electric fan, but still has the iron extension that the stock fan bolts to. Is there any reason to leave this in place? Since I know these crankshafts have some wonky (to say the least) harmonics, I wasn't sure if I should remove it.
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From greenman62 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 18 16:39:15 2020
From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (Greg Petrolati)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 23:39:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
Message-ID: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

Greg Petrolati

Sent from my iPhone

From dmar823 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 18 17:16:47 2020
From: dmar823 at gmail.com (Don Marshall)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CALsVEtCTX87F9Fz0SmFx19A2h9ybwk3D659_edYOh2ecCf3ETw@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know about 1/24, but AirFix had one in 1/32.


On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 6:39 PM Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think
> it was an AMT.
>
> Can anyone confirm?
>
> Greg Petrolati
>
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 18 17:21:00 2020
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (yellow-green)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:21:00 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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Airfix made one at 1/32 scale.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy A11, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 11/18/20  5:41 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom... I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. Can anyone confirm?Greg PetrolatiSent from my iPhone_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Wed Nov 18 17:46:54 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 00:46:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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References: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <2138516185.33448.1605746814379@mail.yahoo.com>

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-REVELL-1254-100-TRIUMPH-TR-4-MODEL-KIT/283594379716?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3D96ceec5d474d440eb8aa55c3b9c8ba02%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D274578889852%26itm%3D283594379716%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DDefaultOrganic%26brand%3DRevell&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109
Here's one presently on Ebay made by Revell.
 
 
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To: Greg Petrolati <greenman62 at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2020 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

I don't know about 1/24, but AirFix had one in 1/32.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 6:39 PM Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

Greg Petrolati

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From kkjjk at aol.com  Wed Nov 18 17:53:03 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 00:53:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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References: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <211185304.34422.1605747184376@mail.yahoo.com>

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/AIRFIX-Triumph-TR4A-model-kit-1-32-UNBUILT-NEW-in-BOX-RARE-Plastic-Car-Model/124287406615?hash=item1cf01b5217:g:PkoAAOSwGpxfK3l3
And here's an Airfix NOS on Ebay as well.
 
 
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To: Greg Petrolati <greenman62 at hotmail.com>; FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2020 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

Airfix made one at 1/32 scale.


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy A11, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------From: Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 11/18/20 5:41 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom... 
I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed Nov 18 19:25:55 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:25:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 diff cover to TR3 fitment
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Hello Friends,
Has anyone ever tried to install a TR6 differential cover on a TR3?  Pre-60,000 VIN, early floor.  It looks too deep and clearance to the floor is close.   Of course the mounting ears would have to be removed.  
Thanks,
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Nov 19 03:54:18 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 05:54:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wheel Bearings (Front)
Message-ID: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>

Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too.
Thanks; asking for a friend.
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 19 04:08:17 2020
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 11:08:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wheel Bearings (Front)
In-Reply-To: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>
References: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>
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Hi Jerry,Below is my snapshot for my last order of Stock triumph bearings for a TR4. ? However, the bearing seal was incorrect- I tried to get too fancy and this was not the felt seal as desired. ? So one of the part numbers below is bogus, that is the part number for a seal.?
I hope that helps. ? These were ordered from Rock?Auto.
Thanks,Dave Gott

|
| 
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| 
| TIMKEN | 03162 | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 07100S | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 07210X | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 03062 | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 480991 | (2) |

 |  | 296263970331740

You should receive by Friday, February 16, 2018
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On Thursday, November 19, 2020, 5:54 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too.Thanks; asking for a friend.JVV_______________________________________________
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 05:35:08 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:35:08 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 diff cover to TR3 fitment
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Dave,   I've never tried to fit to a TR3, bit a TR4A, maybe TR250 diff
cover has bolt on mounting ears.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello Friends,
> Has anyone ever tried to install a TR6 differential cover on a TR3?
> Pre-60,000 VIN, early floor.  It looks too deep and clearance to the floor
> is close.   Of course the mounting ears would have to be removed.
> Thanks,
> Dave H.
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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Thu Nov 19 06:59:35 2020
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FW: short video. Walt at COTA
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From: walt at hot-tr6.com

 

Very short video at COTA but if you look closely you can see my blue TR6 during a race.

Walter Hollowell

 


 

 

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Near the end of the video!

 


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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Nov 19 07:49:55 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:49:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front)
In-Reply-To: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>
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Thanks everyone as always very helpful.
JVV

From: Jerry Van Vlack 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:54 AM
To: FOT ; triumphs at autox.team.net 
Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front)

Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too.
Thanks; asking for a friend.
JVV


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From vangoughv at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 19 08:08:20 2020
From: vangoughv at hotmail.com (Vangoughv)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 10:08:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for someone to refresh a GT6 Transmission
Message-ID: <FR1P15201MB243835FCDADAE35636606331B2E00@FR1P15201MB2438.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I?m looking for someone that is well experienced in rebuilding gearboxes. I removed the working gearbox from my street GT6 due to clutch wear and when inspecting the main gearbox found it is in great need of a rebuild even though it was still shifting well When removed.  

Please contact me off line if you can recommend anyone reasonably close to me.  I?m in central Ontario.  My long time go to at the British shop here has retired and a transmission is about the only thing I?d prefer not to tackle myself. 

Thanks in advance. 

Vince
PS - I?m not apposed to dealing someone in a US State close to Ontario.  

From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Nov 19 08:52:34 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 07:52:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 diff cover to TR3 fitment
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Yes. I know of the earlier two part cover. I just happen to have one from a TR6 and thought I'd ask the group experience.
Thanks,
DH

>     On 11/19/2020 4:35 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>      
>      
>     Dave,   I've never tried to fit to a TR3, bit a TR4A, maybe TR250 diff cover has bolt on mounting ears. 
> 
>     Bob Kramer
> 
>     On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM DAVE HOGYE via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
>         > >         Hello Friends,
> >         Has anyone ever tried to install a TR6 differential cover on a TR3?  Pre-60,000 VIN, early floor.  It looks too deep and clearance to the floor is close.   Of course the mounting ears would have to be removed.  
> >         Thanks,
> >         Dave H.
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Thu Nov 19 18:06:21 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 01:06:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] GT6 race car
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Hi, all-? There is a 1967 Mark I (with a Mark II bonnet) GT6 race car on BAT.? I know that car was driven by one of the Dolan boys at the Kastner Cup at Mid Ohio in June.? It says the owner is listed in Nashville TN.? Is that your car, Jim (Dolan)??? -- Jay De Pol
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From robertten1 at aol.com  Thu Nov 19 20:01:39 2020
From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 03:01:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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I have a kit in 1/32 scale made by MPC.

Bob T'64 Spit GT autocrosser
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Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2020 6:39 pm
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Fri Nov 20 01:32:59 2020
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 08:32:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS809US810&sxsrf=ALeKk00QFOEKnRl4wutP0N7c-XRq7ylkow%3A1605861073960&ei=0X63X9yHOs7R5gLAi6LgDQ&q=triumph+tr4+model+kit&oq=amt+tr4+model&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHUABYAGDOqwJoAHACeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQCqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAEIwAEB&sclient=psy-ab

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

 I have a kit in 1/32 scale made by MPC.

 Bob T '64 Spit GT autocrosser
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Greg Petrolati via Fot 
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 Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2020 6:39 pm
 Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

 I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I
think it was an AMT. 

  Can anyone confirm?

  Greg Petrolati

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 20 07:48:03 2020
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 06:48:03 -0800
Subject: [Fot] FW: short video. Walt at COTA
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Nice cameo!

Chuck

> On Nov 19, 2020, at 6:01 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
>  
>  
> From: walt at hot-tr6.com
>  
> Very short video at COTA but if you look closely you can see my blue TR6 during a race.
> Walter Hollowell
>  
> 
>  
>  
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3351240338278185&id=100001767543699&sfnsn=mo 
>  
> Near the end of the video!
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Nov 20 10:21:05 2020
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 17:21:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Not in the Kastner prep manuals
Message-ID: <CY4PR16MB15120B137A7878FDE9717B1A90FF0@CY4PR16MB1512.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

I bought a TR3 so I could get this sweet Carter carburetor set up!  Can't wait to get it on the dyno!

Henrry Morrison, Salt Lake City.

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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 20 11:25:17 2020
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 11:25:17 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Not in the Kastner prep manuals
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Hey Henry,
Is that engine I built for Rob so hot that you need to de-tune it?
I?m curious on dyno results too - shouldn?t cost more than 10hp or so?!
Cheers,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM


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> I bought a TR3 so I could get this sweet Carter carburetor set up!  Can't wait to get it on the dyno!
> 
> Henrry Morrison, Salt Lake City. 
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From markhaynestile at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 08:07:51 2020
From: markhaynestile at gmail.com (Mark Haynes)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:07:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
Message-ID: <CAPvTz9xP6ek_ThtEfKrszDxvjjqCippnbaK9FhiVs03yZJvNTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looking to replace this left steering  arm.  Can't seem to find one in the
usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.  Found
them for later models, but not this one.
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Sat Nov 21 08:27:13 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:27:13 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
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Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176
Lots of used stuff.
JVV

From: Mark Haynes via Fot 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net 
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1

Looking to replace this left steering  arm.  Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.  Found them for later models, but not this one.  
Thanks Mark 


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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 21 09:27:58 2020
From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:27:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
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 if you fall short of what you need let me know, might have buried in the garage, know I parted a few MkI's years back
Ralph
    On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 09:28:11 AM CST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176Lots of used stuff.JVV?From: Mark Haynes via Fot Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AMTo: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1?Looking to replace this left steering? arm.? Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.? Found them for later models, but not this one.? Thanks Mark 

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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Sat Nov 21 09:50:42 2020
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:50:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
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I just called Scott about some parts.? He was very fast at getting me what I
needed, as usual.?

John
?



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Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176

Lots of used stuff.

JVV



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To: fot at autox.team.net

Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1



?



Looking to replace this left steering? arm.? Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.? Found them for later models, but not this one.?
Thanks Mark


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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Nov 21 10:38:35 2020
From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:38:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
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Message-ID: <2115274822.201768.1605980315263@myemail.cox.net>

I might have one since I parted out an early Mk1 a few years ago. If you can send me a photo and/or part number that is on the unit, I will have a look in my parts stash.

Joe


> On November 21, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>     Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176
>     Lots of used stuff.
>     JVV
>      
>     From: Mark Haynes via Fot
>     Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AM
>     To: fot at autox.team.net
>     Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
>      
>     Looking to replace this left steering  arm.  Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.  Found them for later models, but not this one. 
>     Thanks Mark
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Sat Nov 21 11:42:45 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:42:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Advance BTDC for 1296 Spit?
Message-ID: <9024D522-72B2-44FF-A89E-65876CBD12F7@comcast.net>

Listerati,

I?m curious what total advance you Spifire racers are using @3000-4000 RPM and up? 

I had someone in New Mexico swear that he runs 48 degrees @4000 RPM and backs down by 2 degrees until it doesn?t knock on WOT. I?m not sure I?m brave enough to run that much advance.

What say you list? What total advance are you running at what RPM. And what compression ratio?

I?m running 36 degrees total advance @ 3000 RPM for a 12.52 compression engine and that?s worked pretty good so far. But I?m always looking to get out of the corners faster yet pull hard in the straights sooo????

Thanks
Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 13:41:12 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:41:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Advance BTDC for 1296 Spit?
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Bud, I'm running 34 degrees from 3500 up and could probably go more. I used
to run 36 with an older, lower compression engine, but that was with a
pertronix set up. Currently using a points system from Jeff at Advanced set
up (19 degrees mechanical advance up to 3500) for this cam (APT-BK74) and
compression ~ 13.2.  No knocking, no overheating, could probably go some
more still tweaking the fuel system.

mike h

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:46 PM Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Listerati,
>
> I?m curious what total advance you Spifire racers are using @3000-4000 RPM
> and up?
>
> I had someone in New Mexico swear that he runs 48 degrees @4000 RPM and
> backs down by 2 degrees until it doesn?t knock on WOT. I?m not sure I?m
> brave enough to run that much advance.
>
> What say you list? What total advance are you running at what RPM. And
> what compression ratio?
>
> I?m running 36 degrees total advance @ 3000 RPM for a 12.52 compression
> engine and that?s worked pretty good so far. But I?m always looking to get
> out of the corners faster yet pull hard in the straights sooo????
>
> Thanks
> Bud Rolofson
>
> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
>
> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle
> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 21 15:10:02 2020
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:10:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Advance BTDC for 1296 Spit?
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Hi Bud,
I can?t speak to a 12.5 1296 but I can speak to tuning for altitude. I do a fair amount of dyno tuning at 5500? here in Albuquerque. Be it a 40hp Formula Vee or a 500hp V8, if the engine was properly timed at sea level I?ll usually end up 4-5 degrees advanced from where it was. I?ll go up 2 degrees per pull until the power goes backwards and then set it for peak power minus maybe one degree for safety sake. The one caveat is to remember to dial it back when going to the lowlands!
Starting at 48(!) degrees and backing down sounds like a recipe for disaster. Must be hell on starters too - if it will even crank over with that much timing.
A chassis dyno is your friend and doesn?t lie.
People seem to think it?s expensive but that?s really not the case - maybe my dyno guy treats me exceptionally well, but I can get two ?base-line? pulls for $40 (and sometimes that?s all I?ll do for the session) and rarely over $150 for extensive tuning (8-10 pulls. 
My $.02 worth,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Listerati,
> 
> I?m curious what total advance you Spifire racers are using @3000-4000 RPM and up? 
> 
> I had someone in New Mexico swear that he runs 48 degrees @4000 RPM and backs down by 2 degrees until it doesn?t knock on WOT. I?m not sure I?m brave enough to run that much advance.
> 
> What say you list? What total advance are you running at what RPM. And what compression ratio?
> 
> I?m running 36 degrees total advance @ 3000 RPM for a 12.52 compression engine and that?s worked pretty good so far. But I?m always looking to get out of the corners faster yet pull hard in the straights sooo????
> 
> Thanks
> Bud Rolofson
> 
> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
> 
> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
> 
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From maddhatt69 at aol.com  Sat Nov 21 17:58:09 2020
From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 00:58:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
References: <2041596136.526249.1606006689154.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2041596136.526249.1606006689154@mail.yahoo.com>


Friends! 

I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!


- Hoovie
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Sat Nov 21 18:14:42 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 01:14:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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 Good for you, Hoovie!? I was supposed to be there but my 35th Anniversary won out (I did get a little leverage for next season, however...? I think, anyway.)? Go get em!...
 
 
-----Original Message-----
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To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2020 7:58 pm
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl

Friends! I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
- Hoovie_______________________________________________
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 19:55:12 2020
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:55:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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Hoovie - Thanks for representing Triumphs & Spitfires!

 My newly rebuilt 1300 engine goes on the dyno again next week at AGSVRC in Savannah and then the ?64 Spit should be ready for VDCA at Roebling next month!

Terry

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 20:06, Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Friends!
> 
> I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
> 
> - Hoovie
> 
> <FB_IMG_1606006524474.jpg>
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 20:33:33 2020
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:33:33 -0800
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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That?s a fine Bill Stoler photo!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hoovie - Thanks for representing Triumphs & Spitfires!
> 
>  My newly rebuilt 1300 engine goes on the dyno again next week at AGSVRC in Savannah and then the ?64 Spit should be ready for VDCA at Roebling next month!
> 
> Terry
> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 20:06, Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Friends!
>> 
>> I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
>> 
>> - Hoovie
>> 
>> <FB_IMG_1606006524474.jpg>
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Nov 22 06:04:20 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 08:04:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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Keep ?em in your mirrors!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?That?s a fine Bill Stoler photo!
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Hoovie - Thanks for representing Triumphs & Spitfires!
>> 
>>  My newly rebuilt 1300 engine goes on the dyno again next week at AGSVRC in Savannah and then the ?64 Spit should be ready for VDCA at Roebling next month!
>> 
>> Terry
>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 20:06, Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Friends!
>>> 
>>> I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
>>> 
>>> - Hoovie
>>> 
>>> <FB_IMG_1606006524474.jpg>
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 15:11:49 2020
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:11:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
Message-ID: <CAG9YvYOBVzzcz4G-KMVCZDRifB=P9mCBYK_UM+gJRdRFXO-nBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Amichi
Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back
up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface
so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket
through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to
pics <https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA>) I've heard of blocks
being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot?
Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have
antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it
travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the
exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and
depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly
inspected and magged.

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or *?* for damper rebuilds?

Thanks Friends
Be Careful out there
Brian

-- 
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585-305-0349
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From rek46 at aol.com  Sun Nov 22 15:32:52 2020
From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 22:32:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
In-Reply-To: <CAG9YvYOBVzzcz4G-KMVCZDRifB=P9mCBYK_UM+gJRdRFXO-nBQ@mail.gmail.com>
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ask him if " pinning it " would help?In a message dated 11/22/2020 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:?
Hey AmichiFigured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection?that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.?Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts?will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.?Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds??Thanks FriendsBe Careful out thereBrian
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Nov 22 16:05:13 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:05:13 -0500
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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A while back someone on FOT posted about a threaded insert that is supposed to hold the block together around the crack. Seems like a good idea. We have two blocks with similar cracks ( yes, it is common especially if the head studs are over torqued) and they will get this treatment. Here is a link:

http://castingrepair.locknstitch.com/category/fsb-style-inserts-2

Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:41 PM, rek46 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> ask him if " pinning it " would help
>  
> In a message dated 11/22/2020 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:
>  
> Hey Amichi
> Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.
>  
> Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.
>  
> Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?
>  
> Thanks Friends
> Be Careful out there
> Brian
> 
> -- 
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349
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From tr4 at wi.rr.com  Sun Nov 22 16:34:43 2020
From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (Steve Yott)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:34:43 -0600
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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For the stud hole in the block I have repaired many using the Time-Sert, Big-Sert thread repair system.? Works perfectly and easy to do.. I did not say cheap but easy!Dampers are cheaper to buy new from BPNW than having them rebuilt.SteveSteve Yott
-------- Original message --------From: Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 11/22/20  4:13 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] cracked block Hey AmichiFigured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection?that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts?will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?Thanks FriendsBe Careful out thereBrian--?Brian Schirano585-305-0349
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Nov 22 18:04:07 2020
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 02:04:07 +0100
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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Hi,

 

most of the TR3/4 blocks are killed by head studs driven in with tools instead by running them down by hand.

If the water jacket of the block is not centered properly the wall between thread and water gets quite thin.

If the stud is ran in with a tool plus the torque of the head nuts this is too much for the cast iron to hold and the block develops cracks at the short bolts.

 

As a repair you can try to bring in a thread sleeve and soldering the block with silver solder.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Brian Schirano via Fot
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. November 2020 23:12
An: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] cracked block

 

Hey Amichi

Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics <https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA> ) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

 

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.

 

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?

 

Thanks Friends

Be Careful out there

Brian




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From sjanzen at me.com  Sun Nov 22 19:12:32 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 21:12:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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Hmm, GT6 blocks are not that rare. Ought to be able to find one for $100-$200. Why mess around with something iffy?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hey Amichi
> Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.
> 
> Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.
> 
> Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?
> 
> Thanks Friends
> Be Careful out there
> Brian
> 
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From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Sun Nov 22 19:39:59 2020
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 02:39:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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I got a complete engine,  in a parts car, supposedly was a runner 5 to 7 years ago. You can have the engine frame body everything for 250.00. Nashville,TN.
If your interested let me know and I'll turn it over to make sure she's still all free to rotate etc.



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S20 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: 11/22/20 8:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Brian Schirano <bschirano1 at gmail.com>
Cc: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] cracked block

Hmm, GT6 blocks are not that rare. Ought to be able to find one for $100-$200. Why mess around with something iffy?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Hey Amichi
Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics<https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA>) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?

Thanks Friends
Be Careful out there
Brian

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From hankgiffin at cox.net  Mon Nov 23 23:58:43 2020
From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 01:58:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
Message-ID: <014701d6c22f$40aa91a0$c1ffb4e0$@cox.net>

FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.

    Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard
both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from
friends I should be.  

     A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my old
racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great condition.
My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the company who
did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing my suit?

     Thanks, Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Tue Nov 24 01:19:22 2020
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 02:19:22 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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Re Oil:
I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ... got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps. Never had a problem again! 
He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race car, no. 
But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly. Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t. 
--Rocky
From: Henry Giffin via Fot 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net 
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?

FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.

    Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from friends I should be.  

     A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing my suit?

     Thanks, Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 



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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue Nov 24 04:34:40 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:34:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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Correct: The purpose of the oil is to retard the rise of the piston. Why do that? If you can watch the fuel flow out of the orifice, you?ll see that slowing the piston rise gives a temporary enrichment, similar to the accelerator pump in a fixed- Venturi carburetor. 
This is needed because opening the throttle raises the pressure in the manifold ( remember it is running as a vacuum) and so raising the pressure makes the fuel condense onto the walls of the manifold ( like rain!) and so you temporarily need more of it in the air stream  to compensate.
Unlike street engines, race engines are tuned extra-rich to begin with, so they are less sensitive to this phenomenon. You can get away with no oil in the carbs sometimes. 
I run 10 W (when I can get it) or cheap ATF. Why? I find the engine is more responsive under part throttle conditions such as when I am feathering the throttle in controlled oversteer conditions (I run a welded diff so the throttle is part of my steering mechanism.)
Try it both ways and see how it works in your car at the altitude you run. It?s more about driveability than absolute power.
Phil Gott


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2020, at 3:20 AM, Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Re Oil:
> I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ... got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps. Never had a problem again!
>  
> He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race car, no.
>  
> But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly. Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t.
>  
> --Rocky
>  
> From: Henry Giffin via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
>  
> FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.
>     Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from friends I should be. 
>      A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing my suit?
>      Thanks, Hank
>  
> Hank Giffin
> 757-375-1491
>  
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 04:51:26 2020
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:51:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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I found the opposite response with my CD175 Strombergs.  If the piston
rises too quickly the venturi effect is reduced and adequate fuel is not
drawn through the jet causing a lean mixture.  I use marvel mystery oil.


On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 3:19 AM Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Re Oil:
> I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could
> not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ...
> got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps.
> Never had a problem again!
>
> He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of
> the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It
> was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race
> engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race
> car, no.
>
> But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly.
> Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t.
>
> --Rocky
>
> *From:* Henry Giffin via Fot
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
> *To:* fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
>
>
> FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.
>
>     Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard
> both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from
> friends I should be.
>
>      A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my
> old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great
> condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the
> company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing
> my suit?
>
>      Thanks, Hank
>
>
>
> Hank Giffin
>
> 757-375-1491
>
>
>
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 06:31:25 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:31:25 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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The piston not only controls velocity by restricting the size of the
opening below; it also controls mixture by raising the tapered needle.
Moving a car to a higher elevation suggests that the engine would be
happier with a leaner mixture to run properly and I can see how removing
the damping effect could improve that.  Would lowering the needle jets have
done the same thing?  How about using a softer spring above the piston to
counter the lower atmospheric pressure?  There's another factor on racing
engines, too, and I'm not sure how to estimate its effects -- a long
duration cam would raise manifold pressure (or reduce manifold vacuum; pick
your nomenclature).

I recall reading a tip in one of Kas' tuning books to remove the pistons
(or the rings from the pistons, I can't recall which).  Since reading that
I've wondered how they tuned the carbs to cope with coming out of slow
corners that required the engine to be in the low end of the rev range,
below the fat part of the torque curve.  Did they run a very rich needle
and jet combination?  Did they strictly use OD gearboxes to keep the revs
up in those situations?

The following may be the opposite case to a naturally aspirated race engine
run at high elevation: I had a supercharged 1275cc Mini (supercharger was
downstream of an SU HIF44 carb) that bogged significantly when the throttle
was snapped open (I'm at 300' elevation).  The PO had been dutifully using
SU brand dashpot oil and that oil appears to have low viscosity, so it's
perhaps 10 weight.  After experimentation I found that 40 weight ND engine
oil really woke up the engine.

Duncan

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:01 AM John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I found the opposite response with my CD175 Strombergs.  If the piston
> rises too quickly the venturi effect is reduced and adequate fuel is not
> drawn through the jet causing a lean mixture.  I use marvel mystery oil.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 3:19 AM Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Re Oil:
>> I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could
>> not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ...
>> got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps.
>> Never had a problem again!
>>
>> He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of
>> the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It
>> was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race
>> engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race
>> car, no.
>>
>> But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly.
>> Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t.
>>
>> --Rocky
>>
>> *From:* Henry Giffin via Fot
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
>> *To:* fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
>>
>>
>> FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.
>>
>>     Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have
>> heard both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard
>> from friends I should be.
>>
>>      A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my
>> old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great
>> condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the
>> company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing
>> my suit?
>>
>>      Thanks, Hank
>>
>>
>>
>> Hank Giffin
>>
>> 757-375-1491
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 13:41:55 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:41:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVaRm76NhVcLse-d7V731+wzH7wwH7GtxRSAdVWv1J5icw@mail.gmail.com>

I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.

I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.

thanks
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed Nov 25 09:34:25 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:34:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.  
Dave H. 


On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

>      
>      
>     I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>      
>     I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>      
>     thanks
>     mike h
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 25 10:01:34 2020
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:01:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Hi Mike,
My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed. ?The jet stands alone on its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.? Also, the throttle shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one side. ?Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings badly. ?I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to drive at anything other than WOT. ? I bet part throttle modulation is difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there.... ?I will try them some day! ?Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs???
Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

  I know that Huffaker does this.? I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.? So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.??   Dave H.?   ?   ?   On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
  ?   ?   I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained? (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.  ?   I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.   ?   thanks   mike h   _______________________________________________ 
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Nov 25 10:27:49 2020
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:27:49 +0000
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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David Visard published a book about tuning on the BMC A series engine . There is a lot of test results on modifications to the SU?s .

As a kid   I had a Mini Cooper . I tried many things on the Su?s. One thing I learnt was everything worked well at wide open throttle ....... including removing the bridge completely and secure
Ing cables to the dash pots aka ? Amal GP? ....

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2020, at 9:04 AM, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? Hi Mike,

My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed.  The jet stands alone on its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.  Also, the throttle shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one side.  Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings badly.  I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to drive at anything other than WOT.   I bet part throttle modulation is difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there....  I will try them some day!  Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs?

Dave Gott


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On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
Dave H.


On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.

I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.

thanks
mike h
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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 10:34:34 2020
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 12:34:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Back in the day we thought we needed the bridge to help mix the incoming
air with the fuel.
Bruce

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:04 PM David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper
> removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed.  The jet stands alone on
> its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.  Also, the throttle
> shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one
> side.  Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings
> badly.  I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to
> drive at anything other than WOT.   I bet part throttle modulation is
> difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there....  I will try them
> some day!  Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs?
>
> Dave Gott
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil
> and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost
> nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what
> the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head
> gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
> Dave H.
>
>
> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
> be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
> sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
> mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>
> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>
> thanks
> mike h
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From vfracing at aol.com  Wed Nov 25 10:44:10 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 12:44:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Still need the bridge!
We had a set of computune carbs with bridge removed on a 948 bug eye. It needed hand choking to start, wouldn?t run worth a darn below 3000 rpm. And if it stalled in the grid, very likely, it needed a vigorous push start.
Post Mortem we learned that on these the float level needs to be set high enough that the fuel literally dribbles out of the jet. That?s apparently the only way to get them to run at most any throttle setting and engine speed other than wide open.
There are a lot of ways to improve these carbs, but removing the bridge isn?t one of them unless you after pure WOT horsepower.
Phil Gott



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> On Nov 25, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Bruce Stutzman via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Back in the day we thought we needed the bridge to help mix the incoming air with the fuel.
> Bruce
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:04 PM David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed.  The jet stands alone on its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.  Also, the throttle shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one side.  Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings badly.  I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to drive at anything other than WOT.   I bet part throttle modulation is difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there....  I will try them some day!  Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs?  
>> 
>> Dave Gott
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.  
>> Dave H. 
>>  
>>  
>>> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>>>  
>>> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>>>  
>>> thanks
>>> mike h
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Wed Nov 25 11:15:18 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:15:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Running/Turn light improvement
Message-ID: <FC208B15-B16F-49D8-8FD2-D84BC3883AA8@comcast.net>

Listerati,

Happy Thanksgiving to all. I?m thankful for family, friends, and surviving (so far) the pandemic. I?m also thankful I have a Triumph or two to complete some little projects I?ve been wanting to get to for a long time. Maybe that?s the silver lining in this whole virus thing, I?m home a lot more and need things to do.

So one of them was to replace the headlights on my TR6 with LEDs. Once done I realized how shabby the running/turn lights and the side marker lights were in comparison so I decided to clean, treat, and improve on them.

First I cleaned everything, the lens with soap and water and the light bucket. Get all the dust (even sealed there was dust) off everything including the 1157 bulb and especially the sparse reflectors behind the bulb. I used a two part headlight restore kit (ArmorAll) to clean the road film off the lens and then seal it with some UV protection.

Then I lined the top and bottom of the light bucket (which comes with no top/bottom reflective surfaces) with some adhesive backed foil tape (3M scotch foil tape 3311) as seen in the photo below to increase the reflective surfaces. The triangles that resulted when I cut the shape needed for the running lights I used in the side marker lights, which also got the cleaning treatment. They fit without even any trimming.

The results were amazing once those light bulbs had more reflective surfaces all around and a clean clear lens.

Next, an alternator for the #3.

Now back to making pumpkin pies.

Regards
Bud Rolofson

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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Wed Nov 25 12:31:02 2020
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:31:02 -0000
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 339
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"Refurbishing" a race suit??    Dry cleaning does for me, although a modern
suit can be machine washed.

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From bownes at seiri.com  Wed Nov 25 12:48:45 2020
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Subject: [Fot] Running/Turn light improvement
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Wow. Great idea!

> On Nov 25, 2020, at 13:20, Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Listerati,
> 
> Happy Thanksgiving to all. I?m thankful for family, friends, and surviving (so far) the pandemic. I?m also thankful I have a Triumph or two to complete some little projects I?ve been wanting to get to for a long time. Maybe that?s the silver lining in this whole virus thing, I?m home a lot more and need things to do.
> 
> So one of them was to replace the headlights on my TR6 with LEDs. Once done I realized how shabby the running/turn lights and the side marker lights were in comparison so I decided to clean, treat, and improve on them.
> 
> First I cleaned everything, the lens with soap and water and the light bucket. Get all the dust (even sealed there was dust) off everything including the 1157 bulb and especially the sparse reflectors behind the bulb. I used a two part headlight restore kit (ArmorAll) to clean the road film off the lens and then seal it with some UV protection.
> 
> Then I lined the top and bottom of the light bucket (which comes with no top/bottom reflective surfaces) with some adhesive backed foil tape (3M scotch foil tape 3311) as seen in the photo below to increase the reflective surfaces. The triangles that resulted when I cut the shape needed for the running lights I used in the side marker lights, which also got the cleaning treatment. They fit without even any trimming.
> 
> The results were amazing once those light bulbs had more reflective surfaces all around and a clean clear lens.
> 
> Next, an alternator for the #3.
> 
> Now back to making pumpkin pies.
> 
> Regards
> Bud Rolofson
> 
> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
> 
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From paulricco at att.net  Wed Nov 25 13:29:30 2020
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 14:29:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Molecule Labs Nomex Fabric Care System - Pegasus Auto Racing
 Supplies
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We have been very happy with these products.

The system works well and will not damage how the Nomex thread is designed to work when it gets hot.  Additionally, it is worth the part about why it is important to get the flammable oil stains out of the fabric before you are on fire.

> https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=MOLECULE <https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=MOLECULE>

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Wed Nov 25 14:55:55 2020
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:55:55 +1000
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
In-Reply-To: <1226655541.35367.1606322066206@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CAO0FjVaRm76NhVcLse-d7V731+wzH7wwH7GtxRSAdVWv1J5icw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CA+UW8b0Q=jzWS_UC59i6z6ktYoNsxuF2J5T-TAudTPtWORAvmQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have had a few goes at shaving throttle shafts with very mixed
results..typically fracturing where they meet the carby body.  if you
planned to change them routinely, thats not such an issue

Some recent flow bench work leaves me wondering completely about the wisdom
of any of this without real-world testing

We found some head/intake arrangements where the air flow was too high in
certain places and we had to dimple the port to slow it down. Sometimes,
just enlarging the port does not work as intended

The very best SU research ive seen was done by David Vizard . There are
plenty of on-line references to his work, but if anyone can't find what
they want, i can scan relevant parts of his text book (tome) on tuning BMC
A series engines. Ive used his analysis on  various shapes of ram tubes for
many years

of far more importance seems to be the distance from the valve to the
throttle plate, with the ideal varying considerably with the RPM range
being used. As a general comment, it seems like many folk have it far too
long

I have proven that fiddling with the damper in a SU has a dramatic effect
on throttle response, and not always what you think. i'll offer the comment
that its very engine set-up specific. Sadly, this aspect is all-but
impossible to test on a conventional flow bench

Terry
Australia



On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 2:35 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil
> and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost
> nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what
> the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head
> gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
> Dave H.
>
>
> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
> be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
> sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
> mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>
> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>
> thanks
> mike h
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 17:59:56 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:59:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
In-Reply-To: <CA+UW8b0Q=jzWS_UC59i6z6ktYoNsxuF2J5T-TAudTPtWORAvmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO0FjVaRm76NhVcLse-d7V731+wzH7wwH7GtxRSAdVWv1J5icw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1226655541.35367.1606322066206@connect.xfinity.com>
 <CA+UW8b0Q=jzWS_UC59i6z6ktYoNsxuF2J5T-TAudTPtWORAvmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVYUzVxj8V4B1-A4jK5i_qDPM18=Hi14boDrs_+9i39ssA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to everyone for their insights. I think I'll just look for any
obvious rough spots but mostly leave well enough alone.

mike h

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 4:52 PM Enquiries Road & Track <
enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au> wrote:

> I have had a few goes at shaving throttle shafts with very mixed
> results..typically fracturing where they meet the carby body.  if you
> planned to change them routinely, thats not such an issue
>
> Some recent flow bench work leaves me wondering completely about the
> wisdom of any of this without real-world testing
>
> We found some head/intake arrangements where the air flow was too high in
> certain places and we had to dimple the port to slow it down. Sometimes,
> just enlarging the port does not work as intended
>
> The very best SU research ive seen was done by David Vizard . There are
> plenty of on-line references to his work, but if anyone can't find what
> they want, i can scan relevant parts of his text book (tome) on tuning BMC
> A series engines. Ive used his analysis on  various shapes of ram tubes for
> many years
>
> of far more importance seems to be the distance from the valve to the
> throttle plate, with the ideal varying considerably with the RPM range
> being used. As a general comment, it seems like many folk have it far too
> long
>
> I have proven that fiddling with the damper in a SU has a dramatic effect
> on throttle response, and not always what you think. i'll offer the comment
> that its very engine set-up specific. Sadly, this aspect is all-but
> impossible to test on a conventional flow bench
>
> Terry
> Australia
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 2:35 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper
>> oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to
>> almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know
>> what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head
>> gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
>> Dave H.
>>
>>
>> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
>> be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
>> sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
>> mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>>
>> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>>
>> thanks
>> mike h
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  1 08:33:06 2020
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 15:33:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
 =?utf-8?q?ent=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <20201031202112.04A53A1050@autox.team.net>
References: <6311138E-6F48-44B7-8B1C-5A646B2906D3@gmail.com>
 <20201031202112.04A53A1050@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <2048476371.1058069.1604244787000@mail.yahoo.com>

Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
Mike


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.From: Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.

FOT,

We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.

Any interest?? Trying to set priorities.

_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

http://www.fot-racing.com

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 08:49:57 2020
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 09:49:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
 =?utf-8?q?ent=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <2048476371.1058069.1604244787000@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2048476371.1058069.1604244787000@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCC9BAB9-DE95-4C0F-A619-A3F528ABFBE9@gmail.com>

Mike,

Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.

Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ? Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.
> From: Joe Alexander via Fot
> Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.
> 
> FOT,
> 
> We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.
> 
> Any interest?  Trying to set priorities.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sun Nov  1 13:27:05 2020
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 14:27:05 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speedie sleeve for diff flange
Message-ID: <03F28434-3A74-435B-86EB-6F534005770C@icloud.com>

Does anyone know if this is the appropriate speedie sleeve for the diff input for TR3-6?

skf 99150

Thanks. 
Greg


Sent from my iPhone

From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  1 13:33:42 2020
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 20:33:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
 =?utf-8?q?ent=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <DCC9BAB9-DE95-4C0F-A619-A3F528ABFBE9@gmail.com>
References: <2048476371.1058069.1604244787000@mail.yahoo.com>
 <DCC9BAB9-DE95-4C0F-A619-A3F528ABFBE9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1456505518.1111887.1604262822257@mail.yahoo.com>

It would be cool to have one with a full radius opening like the velocity stacks.Mike


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 9:49 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:

Mike,
Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.
Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.

Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711


On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:



?Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
Mike


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.From: Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.

FOT,

We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.

Any interest?? Trying to set priorities.

_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

http://www.fot-racing.com

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 13:47:13 2020
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 14:47:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
 =?utf-8?q?ent=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1456505518.1111887.1604262822257@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1456505518.1111887.1604262822257@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <74B1CB74-8C62-4964-9966-FF9709145AEE@gmail.com>

Yes. That was my thinking when we were discussing the metal spinning tooling design.

Like the Kastner designed Velovity Stack.  A blanking operation and two forming operations.   The first run will be 100 pieces. 

Thanks for mentioning this.

Sure loved riding in one of your new Corvettes. What a masterpiece.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ? It would be cool to have one with a full radius opening like the velocity stacks.
> Mike
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 9:49 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.
> 
> Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> ? Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.
>> From: Joe Alexander via Fot
>> Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.
>> 
>> FOT,
>> 
>> We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.
>> 
>> Any interest?  Trying to set priorities.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Nov  1 19:36:52 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 21:36:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 
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Message-ID: <54F66778-6E63-4CF0-B87D-458B6EE7FE0A@aol.com>

Joe:
Do you have a picture or drawing of what it would look like?
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Yes. That was my thinking when we were discussing the metal spinning tooling design.
> 
> Like the Kastner designed Velovity Stack.  A blanking operation and two forming operations.   The first run will be 100 pieces. 
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this.
> 
> Sure loved riding in one of your new Corvettes. What a masterpiece.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> ? It would be cool to have one with a full radius opening like the velocity stacks.
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 9:49 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.
>> 
>> Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ? Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.
>>> From: Joe Alexander via Fot
>>> Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
>>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.
>>> 
>>> FOT,
>>> 
>>> We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.
>>> 
>>> Any interest?  Trying to set priorities.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>> 
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 08:53:08 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 09:53:08 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speedie sleeve for diff flange
In-Reply-To: <03F28434-3A74-435B-86EB-6F534005770C@icloud.com>
References: <03F28434-3A74-435B-86EB-6F534005770C@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWsJ805_cjK=YcFovE=ej2Q3ZmBS9PBzEvjB_a3KbqNMVA@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/68859-new-front-diff-seal-leaking/

forum responses say it is 99149

I think I have one in a box at home.  Come to think of it, it is probably
an empty box saved so I would know what to buy next time.


Bob Kramer


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 2:27 PM Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Does anyone know if this is the appropriate speedie sleeve for the diff
> input for TR3-6?
>
> skf 99150
>
> Thanks.
> Greg
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Tue Nov  3 21:12:59 2020
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Michael Porters collection
Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5@gmail.com>

Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and is over 1,000 miles away, 

It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. 

I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance involvement. 

I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly. Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. 

Ken Gano

Sent from my iPad

From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Nov  3 22:34:36 2020
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:34:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
In-Reply-To: <158628208.2096398.1603479989306@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <158628208.2096398.1603479989306@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a70c1c01-7eac-9e9d-98ba-31c62293310a@bradakis.com>

And also this.? Sigh.

mjb.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
Date: 	Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: 	John Young <jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com>
To: 	



Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter 
and Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father 
passed away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very 
hectic dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're 
going to do with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone 
away. I have some engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do 
something like rebuild one of these cars.

I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. 
I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. 
Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in 
Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). 
Randall also helped me pack my father's garage_s_, yes plural, when we 
moved from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or 
tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. 
And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.

Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these 
parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live 
anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does 
who could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the 
assistance. That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify 
their time.

I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone 
that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those 
things.

If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I 
scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone 
that might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the 
email on to them too.

Thank you,
Janice Morgan
yojanice at yahoo.com
765-404-4017 - call or text


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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Wed Nov  4 08:14:12 2020
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 08:14:12 -0700
Subject: [Fot] COTA
Message-ID: <035d01d6b2bd$27f5c6b0$77e15410$@hot-tr6.com>

Hello any FOT members that might be attending the SVRA COTA event this
weekend. I'm positioned in line at the entrance to lot F just waiting for
things to open. I'm setting directly across from the SVRA trailer in my
black Ford Excursion with a black trailer. Swing by and say "Hi" to give me
a call on my cell if you wish.

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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 08:56:35 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 09:56:35 -0600
Subject: [Fot] COTA
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Message-ID: <CABFvdWtPJYKn7njn46LwSA8UngpczO9AJ2kmuN9Sc6aPiCMsaA@mail.gmail.com>

A couple of us are helping in Tech.  See you there!

Bob Kramer


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> things to open. I?m setting directly across from the SVRA trailer in my
> black Ford Excursion with a black trailer. Swing by and say ?Hi? to give me
> a call on my cell if you wish.
>
> Walt Hollowell
>
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From joeg at neb.rr.com  Wed Nov  4 16:31:39 2020
From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 17:31:39 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE & Michael Porters
 collection
Message-ID: <002901d6b302$a5a419f0$f0ec4dd0$@neb.rr.com>

Ken - (or anyone who knows) Where is Michael's daughter located?

Also - I sent an email to Janice Morgan, offering to help. I'm in the region
every once in a while, and retired now so have some time. I'm thinking it
will require a trip down to Southern Missouri to take a bunch of photos and
then start listing stuff for sale where and when appropriate. Anyone else on
board or thinking about it? Would be happy to help if I can.

Joe Guinan
Fremont, NE

------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600
From: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>
To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>, Listserv Triumph
	<triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Michael Porters collection
Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating
his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and
is over 1,000 miles away, 

It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like
there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. 

I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance
involvement. 

I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly.
Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. 

Ken Gano

Sent from my iPad

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:34:36 -0700
From: Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
Message-ID: <a70c1c01-7eac-9e9d-98ba-31c62293310a at bradakis.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

And also this.? Sigh.

mjb.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
Date: 	Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: 	John Young <jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com>
To: 	



Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter and
Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father passed
away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very hectic
dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're going to do
with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone away. I have some
engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do something like rebuild one of
these cars.

I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. 
I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. 
Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in
Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). 
Randall also helped me pack my father's garage_s_, yes plural, when we moved
from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or
tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. 
And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.

Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these
parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live
anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does who
could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the assistance.
That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify their time.

I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone
that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those
things.

If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I
scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone that
might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the email on
to them too.

Thank you,
Janice Morgan
yojanice at yahoo.com
765-404-4017 - call or text




From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 17:57:20 2020
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 18:57:20 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE & Michael Porters
 collection
In-Reply-To: <002901d6b302$a5a419f0$f0ec4dd0$@neb.rr.com>
References: <002901d6b302$a5a419f0$f0ec4dd0$@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CD1C19E5-0236-466E-82EB-7DEE1A34F69D@gmail.com>

Roswell, New Mexico 

Kg

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Ken - (or anyone who knows) Where is Michael's daughter located?
> 
> Also - I sent an email to Janice Morgan, offering to help. I'm in the region
> every once in a while, and retired now so have some time. I'm thinking it
> will require a trip down to Southern Missouri to take a bunch of photos and
> then start listing stuff for sale where and when appropriate. Anyone else on
> board or thinking about it? Would be happy to help if I can.
> 
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, NE
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600
> From: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>
> To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>, Listserv Triumph
>    <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Michael Porters collection
> Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating
> his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and
> is over 1,000 miles away, 
> 
> It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like
> there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. 
> 
> I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance
> involvement. 
> 
> I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly.
> Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. 
> 
> Ken Gano
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:34:36 -0700
> From: Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
> Message-ID: <a70c1c01-7eac-9e9d-98ba-31c62293310a at bradakis.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> 
> And also this.? Sigh.
> 
> mjb.
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:    [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
> Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
> From:    John Young <jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com>
> To:    
> 
> 
> 
> Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter and
> Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father passed
> away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very hectic
> dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're going to do
> with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone away. I have some
> engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do something like rebuild one of
> these cars.
> 
> I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. 
> I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. 
> Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in
> Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). 
> Randall also helped me pack my father's garage_s_, yes plural, when we moved
> from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or
> tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. 
> And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.
> 
> Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these
> parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live
> anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does who
> could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the assistance.
> That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify their time.
> 
> I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone
> that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those
> things.
> 
> If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I
> scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone that
> might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the email on
> to them too.
> 
> Thank you,
> Janice Morgan
> yojanice at yahoo.com
> 765-404-4017 - call or text
> 
> 
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Wed Nov  4 18:09:23 2020
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 19:09:23 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Original paint on TR3 rear axle housing
Message-ID: <404FD8EE-9F91-4180-B41C-36AFBBEBD27F@icloud.com>

Folks looking for intel on the original paint scheme used on the TR3 axle housing. More curiosity than anything. Currently rebuilding my son?s differential and rear axles and found that the housing center section or pumpkin is painted red, axles tubes and rear cover are black. This is not the first one I?ve rebuilt with this color scheme. Was this original?  

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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Nov  6 19:42:35 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 21:42:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
Message-ID: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.   If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
 Scott Janzen 

Sent from my iPhone

From sonomascot at aol.com  Fri Nov  6 21:28:45 2020
From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:28:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
In-Reply-To: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
References: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
Message-ID: <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>

https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1970/triumph/tr6/101375016


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:44
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.? If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
 Scott Janzen 

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From igofaster at att.net  Sat Nov  7 10:57:13 2020
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 17:57:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
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 <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2128807929.2866750.1604771833067@mail.yahoo.com>

 I have a nice 1971 we've had for nearly 25 years... we hardly ever drive it. It's never had a frame off however in the 2 1/2 decades we've owned it I had a really nice down to the metal paint restoration job done on it... it's not perfect but it's damn nice...it appears all the panels are original in their original factory attached locations... also when I redid the dash, all the instruments appeared original to the car...? Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles

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Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles


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    On Friday, November 6, 2020, 10:29:51 PM CST, Scott Meredith via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1970/triumph/tr6/101375016


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:44
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.? If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
 Scott Janzen 

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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Nov  7 11:32:06 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 13:32:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
In-Reply-To: <2128807929.2866750.1604771833067@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
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Message-ID: <B0E58455-21A1-403E-85D8-2E76791BF9D6@me.com>

thanks, Bobby, I?ve gotten a few responses, and right now the guy is focused on one nearer to him on the east coast.

You?ll hear from me if that changes.

Scott

On Nov 7, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Bobby Whitehead via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I have a nice 1971 we've had for nearly 25 years... we hardly ever drive it. It's never had a frame off however in the 2 1/2 decades we've owned it I had a really nice down to the metal paint restoration job done on it... it's not perfect but it's damn nice...it appears all the panels are original in their original factory attached locations... also when I redid the dash, all the instruments appeared original to the car...  Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC7o3DYK7XU>

	
Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles
 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC7o3DYK7XU>



On Friday, November 6, 2020, 10:29:51 PM CST, Scott Meredith via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1970/triumph/tr6/101375016


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:44
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.  If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
Scott Janzen 

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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  7 13:39:55 2020
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 15:39:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] EylCoil
Message-ID: <CAM8wRFF7upw=Ax7MKSHweieQfLpYsBu8RuRfPrK8g7P0QP3mVg@mail.gmail.com>

Can anyone ID this coil?
It was on a
 Healey BN2.
Primary is 4 ohms.
Primary contacts are in the bottom.
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Nov  8 10:20:45 2020
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 11:20:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] We just did a run of these. Anybody need one or two?
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We also have the tooling design for a cold air intake, but it?s not in production yet. Eligible for Group 8 in SVRA Rick Parent tells me. It will match the other headlamp replacement. But will have a shape like the Kastner Designed Velocity Stacks.    

(I will install the decal for you. There?s a simple trick to it).

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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  9 07:46:42 2020
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:46:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
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 Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures me a bit.

Regards.
Jack

    On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hi, all.

 ?

My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.

 ?

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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Nov  9 07:50:07 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 09:50:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
 <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
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I use Heacock and have for years. They are owned by a larger company too.  Only had one claim, which they honored with zero issues.

On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.

Regards.

Jack

On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:


Hi, all.

 
My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.

 
Thanks!

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From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com  Mon Nov  9 07:53:19 2020
From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:53:19 +0000
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>,
 <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR13MB40061FB372B5930E04541AE4BBEA0@MN2PR13MB4006.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

FYI.

It is normal for one insurance carrier to sell their client list to another given the situation below.

Also, I rep two (2) different classic insurance carriers, and Haggerty is the better of the two.

Just my own personal observation.

Larry Ross
Agency Owner

Lawrence Ross Agency
67 Old Clairton Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA. 15236
(412) 655-9990 - office
(412) 780-8495 - cell

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Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 9:46 AM
To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
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Subject: [External] Re: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies

Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.

Regards.

Jack

On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:



Hi, all.



My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.



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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 07:57:28 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:57:28 -0600
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
 <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
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I had begun with Great American and switched to Heagerty after a couple of
years (I don't recall why but it may have had something to do with their
restrictions on the use of my car.  For the last 15 years or so I've been
using Grundy and now have 5 cars insured by them, including three race cars
(coverage doesn't apply while on track).  At the time I switched to Grundy
their usage restrictions seemed to be the least restricting.  Rates were
competitive and responsiveness is first-class.

Duncan

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from
> Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their
> "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5
> cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you
> have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
>
> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking
> for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold
> the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who
> else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others
> have had good experiences with.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From tr4jay at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 08:26:09 2020
From: tr4jay at gmail.com (Jay Galbreath)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:26:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
 <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
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I always felt that the real test of an Insurance  Company was when you make
a claim. I have done that with Hagerty Insurance Co. They were prompt,
accurate and basically said not to worry about any surprise issues in the
repair process. So yes I do recommend. I also have heard good things about
J.C. Taylor.   Jay

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 9:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from
> Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their
> "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5
> cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you
> have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
>
> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking
> for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold
> the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who
> else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others
> have had good experiences with.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 08:38:39 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:38:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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I've had Haggerty (5 cars) for a couple of years now, including the off
track (but in paddock) insurance of the race car and trailer. Haggerty is
actively pursuing motorsports participants, they even bought
Motorsportsreg.com, the race registration site (probably to get contact
info from active racers). But they do support racing with all kinds of
motorsports (track days, race tickets, etc) events, both free and
discounted, for subscribers. You'll see them at the track, I think they get
it.

I had one claim and they sent a British car specialist from the regional
office to evaluate a GT6 (road car) of mine after an incident. Very
knowledgeable and fair in the assessment of the work. Quick processing of
the paperwork.

mike h

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:05 AM Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I had begun with Great American and switched to Heagerty after a couple of
> years (I don't recall why but it may have had something to do with their
> restrictions on the use of my car.  For the last 15 years or so I've been
> using Grundy and now have 5 cars insured by them, including three race cars
> (coverage doesn't apply while on track).  At the time I switched to Grundy
> their usage restrictions seemed to be the least restricting.  Rates were
> competitive and responsiveness is first-class.
>
> Duncan
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from
>> Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their
>> "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5
>> cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you
>> have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>>
>>
>> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking
>> for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold
>> the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who
>> else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others
>> have had good experiences with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Mgs at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Mon Nov  9 08:39:53 2020
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:39:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
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Hi Guys, I have 4 cars insured through Hagerty; they have always been 
very good in any dealings with them. One Classic, two antique, and one 
race. A few minor restrictions on the Classic and Antique, but more 
restrictions with the state of PA. No commercial use, no towing unless 
to a vintage car show, etc. Total is around $500 a year. Just put my '87 
Chevy square body pickup on Classic plates and Hagerty insurance. Just 
had the Chevy painted; 59k and my dad bought it new in Nov '86. A keeper!

Very warm in NW PA, but I'll enjoy it while I can.

Cheers, Bill

On 11/9/2020 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote:
> Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters 
> from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't 
> like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went 
> up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the 
> positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures 
> me a bit.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am 
> looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy 
> expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to 
> them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, 
> responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.
>
> Thanks!
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  9 08:47:37 2020
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:47:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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 I used Heacock, who placed the coverage with Great American, until I moved to Massachusetts.? Heacock did not seem to be able to deal with the MA required forms, so I went to a local agency who sold Hagerty and have been with them since to cover a street TR4, my race car and my trailer.? I have not had any claims so I can't vouch for how well they do with claims.? Joe B
    On Monday, November 9, 2020, 10:02:51 AM EST, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I use Heacock and have for years. They are owned by a larger company too. ?Only had one claim, which they honored with zero issues.

On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures me a bit.

Regards.
Jack

    On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hi, all.
 ?

My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 08:51:38 2020
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:51:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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I had JC Taylor for years (no claims).  I went with them  after USAA was painful on a claim for my Triumph (was in the shop {Mot?rhead} & on mechanic?s test drive a lady in a minivan backed into it).  USAA eventually covered 80% of repairs.
I have race car, race trailer & TR250 w/ Hagerty now.  USAA still covers the rest of the fleet, they are great on newer vehicles.

Terry

> On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:42, Jay Galbreath via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I always felt that the real test of an Insurance  Company was when you make a claim. I have done that with Hagerty Insurance Co. They were prompt, accurate and basically said not to worry about any surprise issues in the repair process. So yes I do recommend. I also have heard good things about J.C. Taylor.   Jay
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 9:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
>> Jack
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, all.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.
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>>  
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From igofaster at att.net  Mon Nov  9 09:24:45 2020
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:24:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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 I've used Haggerty for years..have the 2 race cars, my street TR6, and I've used them for a couple of Miatas and even my 2005 Lotus Elise before I sold it. I had the declare the Elise wasn't to be tracked... it wasn't.as far as insurance in general, do yourself a favor and use a service like compare.com just to , well , compare... when I did I switched to Elephant and saved 100's of dollars...then did the same with our home... I have no loyalty to an insurance company.. my daughter was in the Navy and was using USAAA or whatever they sell to military...she to switched to another company... I check nearly every year...
Bobby Whitehead.... multiple, MULTIPLE, cars, trailers, boats, etc

    On Monday, November 9, 2020, 10:14:35 AM CST, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I had JC Taylor for years (no claims). ?I went with them ?after USAA was painful on a claim for my Triumph (was in the shop {Mot?rhead} & on mechanic?s test drive a lady in a minivan backed into it). ?USAA eventually covered 80% of repairs.I have race car, race trailer & TR250 w/ Hagerty now. ?USAA still covers the rest of the fleet, they are great on newer vehicles.
Terry

On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:42, Jay Galbreath via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?I always felt that the real test of an Insurance? Company was when you make a claim. I have done that with Hagerty Insurance?Co. They were prompt, accurate and basically?said not to worry about any surprise issues in the repair process. So yes I do recommend. I also have heard good things about J.C. Taylor.? ?Jay
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 9:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures me a bit.

Regards.
Jack

    On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hi, all.

 ?

My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.

 ?

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From tony.sheach at live.co.uk  Mon Nov  9 09:36:15 2020
From: tony.sheach at live.co.uk (Tony Sheach)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:36:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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Mike

I have a friend at Hagerty if anyone wants to discuss - he is a fellow rally man so whilst he works there you will get straight answers to questions.

I don?t insure with them mainly due to their requirement for night time garaging, which doesn?t suit me when we are away on road events, but otherwise my assessment was that their cover is good and their intent honourable in the event of a claim (and I know of plenty supporting evidence).

All the best and stay safe.

Tony

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On 9 Nov 2020, at 15:57, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
I've had Haggerty (5 cars) for a couple of years now, including the off track (but in paddock) insurance of the race car and trailer. Haggerty is actively pursuing motorsports participants, they even bought Motorsportsreg.com, the race registration site (probably to get contact info from active racers). But they do support racing with all kinds of motorsports (track days, race tickets, etc) events, both free and discounted, for subscribers. You'll see them at the track, I think they get it.

I had one claim and they sent a British car specialist from the regional office to evaluate a GT6 (road car) of mine after an incident. Very knowledgeable and fair in the assessment of the work. Quick processing of the paperwork.

mike h

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:05 AM Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I had begun with Great American and switched to Heagerty after a couple of years (I don't recall why but it may have had something to do with their restrictions on the use of my car.  For the last 15 years or so I've been using Grundy and now have 5 cars insured by them, including three race cars (coverage doesn't apply while on track).  At the time I switched to Grundy their usage restrictions seemed to be the least restricting.  Rates were competitive and responsiveness is first-class.

Duncan

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.

Regards.

Jack

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Hi, all.



My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.



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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Mon Nov  9 15:13:29 2020
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:13:29 -0600
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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I?ve had Heacock for years also. $250 a year covers my race car (HP Spitfire) and trailer (open flatbed). It?s off-track coverage. Never had a claim.

Used to have K&K, got pissed off that they required a complete re-application every year as if it was a new policy. Heacock just bills the renewal. One time they called, ?Do you have a trailer, we?ll cover that too, no extra charge.? I?ve actually about doubled the stated value of the car with no increase in premium (as in, the base premium covered that much, why not?).

What I see of Hagerty I like. If I was shopping a new coverage, I?d likely start there. But I?m very  happy with Heacock.

--Rocky Entriken

From: Scott Janzen via Fot 
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 8:50 AM
To: Jack Wheeler 
Cc: dave ; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph 
Subject: Re: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies

I use Heacock and have for years. They are owned by a larger company too.  Only had one claim, which they honored with zero issues.


On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.


Regards.

Jack


On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote: 


Hi, all.


 
My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.


 
Thanks!

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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Mon Nov  9 16:54:02 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 18:54:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TRS video
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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Tue Nov 10 07:39:07 2020
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 07:39:07 -0700
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
Message-ID: <05d701d6b76f$3f37c240$bda746c0$@hot-tr6.com>

Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I
raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a
perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while
I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I
have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of
my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best
starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set
my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36
where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on
Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group
for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few
cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it
was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my
revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527
which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really
get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but
I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition
the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public
address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran
the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires,
fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36
cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things
interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past
me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on
running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had
an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a
father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could
pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were
side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little
bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20)
of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both
drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between
our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We
crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don't know which of us broke the
electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings
about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me
dragging it's entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris.
I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he
was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the
Endurance seem expensive but I guess that's the price in the big leagues.
The COTA track is awesome and I'm I  can say I have raced there. Overall I
had a great weekend.

I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next
few days. That will be fun.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico



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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 14:10:19 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 15:10:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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References: <05d701d6b76f$3f37c240$bda746c0$@hot-tr6.com>
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Walt

The attendees really appreciated your rendition of the National Anthem. I
could hear the hand clapping up and down the garages. Great job!

Bob Kramer


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:37 PM Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I
> raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a
> perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT
> while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car
> racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl
> and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that
> the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24
> rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally
> set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three
> practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran
> with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT
> class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by
> the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same
> thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend.
> My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight
> is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving
> deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side.
> On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that
> Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was
> a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo
> with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did
> a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the
> Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my
> mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT,
> Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during
> the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four
> laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were
> side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main
> straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the
> other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of
> us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were
> still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90
> degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche
> went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead
> even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but
> neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the
> feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust
> system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to
> the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also,
> $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive
> but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome
> and I?m I  can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.
>
> I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the
> next few days. That will be fun.
>
> Walter Hollowell
>
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
>
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 22:01:25 2020
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 21:01:25 -0800
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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Sounds like you had a good time Walt.  Sorry I missed out on that trumpet playing!  Looking forward to the videos.

Chuck

> On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:38 AM, walt at hot-tr6.com wrote:
> 
> ?
> Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome and I?m I  can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.
> I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next few days. That will be fun.
> Walter Hollowell
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Wed Nov 11 10:07:46 2020
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:07:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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So car running at end of event, no contact, family w you,?good times...? ?damn the only thing was being in??gp?8 vs 3 . ?And u got the win and smiles. ?And the Anthem.?
You win overall
Mordy

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 On?Wednesday, November 11, 2020,?Chuck Gee via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Sounds like you had a good time Walt. ?Sorry I missed out on that trumpet playing! ?Looking forward to the videos.

Chuck

On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:38 AM, walt at hot-tr6.com wrote:



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Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome and I?m I? can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.

I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next few days. That will be fun.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico


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From steve at artwithcars.com  Wed Nov 11 15:01:04 2020
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:01:04 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Kastner-Brophy "Candy Box Vitesse" at Willow Springs
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Dear FOT,

Here?s Chuck Gee?s exciting Saturday B-Sedan race in the Vitesse!

Crank up the sound!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC5SxoekqCg&feature=youtu.be <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC5SxoekqCg&feature=youtu.be>

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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu Nov 12 08:24:06 2020
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:24:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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Definitely a nice job on the trumpet Walt, thanks!
Please see the attached group sheets, Walt's car was not misclassed and ran exactly where it should have in group 8, the rules have been this way for 30+ years. You may have different classes where ever you race which is fine and I just want everyone to know there was no malice involved classing Walt's car. You may have differing opinions about classifications and that's fine but the rules are the rules wherever you race and its always good to know them in advance so you can be mentally prepared once you get to the track.
https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Svra_Group_3_118-2.pdf
https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Svra_Group_8_2_20.pdf


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    On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 12:11:12 PM EST, Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 So car running at end of event, no contact, family w you,?good times...? ?damn the only thing was being in??gp?8 vs 3 . ?And u got the win and smiles. ?And the Anthem.?
You win overall
Mordy

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 On?Wednesday, November 11, 2020,?Chuck Gee via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Sounds like you had a good time Walt. ?Sorry I missed out on that trumpet playing! ?Looking forward to the videos.

Chuck

On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:38 AM, walt at hot-tr6.com wrote:



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Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome and I?m I? can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.

I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next few days. That will be fun.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico


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From steve at artwithcars.com  Fri Nov 13 00:56:11 2020
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 23:56:11 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3 race video from Willow Springs
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Friends,
Hope you enjoy my race video from the VARA Saturday flag race at Willow Springs. 
It was in the 40?s, 25mph winds with rain here and there.  I finished 1st in class and 3rd overall. The caution flags and lap traffic didn?t really work in my favor.  It was the first outing for my fresh engine build. 

https://youtu.be/IPD4kq0ayG8


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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 10:07:20 2020
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:07:20 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3 race video from Willow Springs
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Very cool Steve!  Thanks for sharing.

Chuck

> On Nov 12, 2020, at 11:56 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Friends,
> Hope you enjoy my race video from the VARA Saturday flag race at Willow Springs. 
> It was in the 40?s, 25mph winds with rain here and there.  I finished 1st in class and 3rd overall. The caution flags and lap traffic didn?t really work in my favor.  It was the first outing for my fresh engine build. 
> 
> https://youtu.be/IPD4kq0ayG8
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From billdentin at aol.com  Fri Nov 13 11:55:49 2020
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:55:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 race video from Willow Springs
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VERY, Very nice...
Bill

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Friends,Hope you enjoy my race video from the VARA Saturday flag race at Willow Springs.?It was in the 40?s, 25mph winds with rain here and there. ?I finished 1st in class and 3rd overall. The caution flags and lap traffic didn?t really work in my favor. ?It was the first outing for my fresh engine build.?
https://youtu.be/IPD4kq0ayG8

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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 13 12:47:57 2020
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:47:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer delivery source
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB45148CA6FE6CB8E1427F77ECBAE60@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Any suggestions on a company or person that would deliver a 48' gooseneck trailer from Northern Ohio to Fresno California?

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From rick.parent at att.net  Sat Nov 14 18:13:26 2020
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:13:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup, I'll try it on a race motor next.




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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 18:32:14 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:32:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Synchronous or progressive carb?
Duncan

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of
> timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup,
> I'll try it on a race motor next.
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
>
>
> "*Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of
> consequences*"
> Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!
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From rick.parent at att.net  Sat Nov 14 18:34:54 2020
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:34:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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References: <1881250589.3277887.1605402806512.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Progressive.
Did the PDF files come through for the Graph and Report? I can't tell.

"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!

 

    On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 08:32:56 PM EST, Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Synchronous or progressive carb?Duncan
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup, I'll try it on a race motor next.




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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sat Nov 14 18:42:47 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:42:47 -0800
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Yes.  Good stuff.  Thanks for sharing.
Dave H.

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Progressive.
> 
> Did the PDF files come through for the Graph and Report? I can't tell.
> 
> 
> "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
> Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 08:32:56 PM EST, Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Synchronous or progressive carb?
> Duncan
> 
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup, I'll try it on a race motor next.
> 
> <20201114_155734_resized.jpg>
> 
> 
> 
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> Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Mon Nov 16 17:52:46 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:52:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
Message-ID: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>

I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. 

Questions:
If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? 
If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.

Thanks. looking for feedback.

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From afterapex at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 19:06:36 2020
From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:06:36 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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I have not used that model, but have used this one and like it (needed plywood runners to raise tires enough to clear with my Morgan:  https://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/mid-rise-scissor-lifts/md-6xp/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzoPDzb6I7QIVfz6tBh0bfgu5EAQYASABEgKlivD_BwE <https://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/mid-rise-scissor-lifts/md-6xp/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzoPDzb6I7QIVfz6tBh0bfgu5EAQYASABEgKlivD_BwE>
Advantage with this one over what I see with the quick jack is the max lift height is higher.  

BTW, Home Depot has a lower price (as far as I could see) than Costco: https://www.homedepot.com/p/QUICKJACK-BL-5000SLX-5-000-lbs-Capacity-Portable-Car-Lift-BL-5000SLX-AC-110v/307393222?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA-71700000034127221-58700003933021543-92700031755124763&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_770jr6I7QIVoD6tBh07XAyPEAQYASABEgLe0_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds <https://www.homedepot.com/p/QUICKJACK-BL-5000SLX-5-000-lbs-Capacity-Portable-Car-Lift-BL-5000SLX-AC-110v/307393222?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA-71700000034127221-58700003933021543-92700031755124763&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_770jr6I7QIVoD6tBh07XAyPEAQYASABEgLe0_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds>

Thanks for starting this thread, I am looking for details on a another portable lift to use in a small garage with poor clearance.

Greg in Oakland
1958 Morgan +4

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>  
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.
>  
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>  
> JVV
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 16 19:48:40 2020
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 02:48:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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 I bought a used 3500# QJ.? I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.? It fits between the tires with a few inches clearance.? The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter than the Miata.? I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I have stored one jack under there.? Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500# one?? If so, that may be an issue for you.
It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.? The wheels at one end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple of them.? When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the center underside of the car from the front or back.? Can't just scoot under the side.?
The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.? I bought some extra rubber blocks that fit around the pinch welds.? These same rubber blocks can also be used under the TR frame.??
I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or access to power at the track.
Joe B
    On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. ?Questions:If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.?Thanks. looking for feedback.?JVV_______________________________________________
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 20:58:33 2020
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:58:33 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
In-Reply-To: <1385721930.6349221.1605581320023@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>
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I don?t really see the utility. The lift height means you?re still crawling around under the car and you can?t get in from the side?only the ends. You could just jack the car up and use home-made dollies for a fraction of the cost and be able to slide under from sides as well as front and back. I have three of them I made for probably about $200 each. I also have a two post lift, and I?d say a light two post will probably fit in your garage?some are just 8 feet high. You can install them to be easily removable. I?ve seen lifts mounted on rollers. Not that big of a price difference. 

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I bought a used 3500# QJ.  I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.  It fits between the tires with a few inches clearance.  The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter than the Miata.  I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I have stored one jack under there.  Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500# one?  If so, that may be an issue for you.
> 
> It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.  The wheels at one end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple of them.  When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
> 
> One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the center underside of the car from the front or back.  Can't just scoot under the side. 
> 
> The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.  I bought some extra rubber blocks that fit around the pinch welds.  These same rubber blocks can also be used under the TR frame.  
> 
> I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or access to power at the track.
> 
> Joe B
> 
> On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>  
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.
>  
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>  
> JVV
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 06:36:38 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:36:38 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
In-Reply-To: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>
References: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>
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You didn't mention what your space limitation was, so this may not apply.
My workshop is big enough to accommodate a 2 or 4-post lift but I knew that
I'd constantly find a post to be in the way due to the way the garage is
laid out.  I opted for a 6000-lb capacity single post lift similar to the
one in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV_VgG_KDZg

Some low cars may have to be driven up onto 2X6 planks for the arms to slip
under but once the wheels are off the ground I can maneuver the entire rig
into a corner where it's not in the way.  I can park beneath it if I want
to build spacers but have never done this.

Duncan




On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:55 PM Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so
> instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000
> pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good
> price on the 5000# unit.
>
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>
> JVV
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 11:35:50 2020
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:35:50 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
In-Reply-To: <2471D5A1-DA7C-4873-9A87-F0EE35BC10ED@ponostyle.com>
References: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>
 <1385721930.6349221.1605581320023@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2471D5A1-DA7C-4873-9A87-F0EE35BC10ED@ponostyle.com>
Message-ID: <D4658A48-EBD4-48D0-B84D-470C0675E5E0@gmail.com>

I found a lousy picture of a different version of the racks i made with the Ambro in it?this one has two wheels per side for the base. I guess I ran out of wheels. you can?t see much, but it might help





> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don?t really see the utility. The lift height means you?re still crawling around under the car and you can?t get in from the side?only the ends. You could just jack the car up and use home-made dollies for a fraction of the cost and be able to slide under from sides as well as front and back. I have three of them I made for probably about $200 each. I also have a two post lift, and I?d say a light two post will probably fit in your garage?some are just 8 feet high. You can install them to be easily removable. I?ve seen lifts mounted on rollers. Not that big of a price difference. 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a used 3500# QJ.  I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.  It fits between the tires with a few inches clearance.  The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter than the Miata.  I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I have stored one jack under there.  Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500# one?  If so, that may be an issue for you.
>> 
>> It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.  The wheels at one end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple of them.  When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
>> 
>> One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the center underside of the car from the front or back.  Can't just scoot under the side. 
>> 
>> The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.  I bought some extra rubber blocks that fit around the pinch welds.  These same rubber blocks can also be used under the TR frame.  
>> 
>> I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or access to power at the track.
>> 
>> Joe B
>> 
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>>  
>> Questions:
>> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
>> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
>> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
>> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.
>>  
>> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>>  
>> JVV
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 12:38:29 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 13:38:29 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
In-Reply-To: <D4658A48-EBD4-48D0-B84D-470C0675E5E0@gmail.com>
References: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>
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Spacious shop but it seems that you managed to fill it up!

Bob Kramer


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:36 PM Bill Babcock via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I found a lousy picture of a different version of the racks i made with
> the Ambro in it?this one has two wheels per side for the base. I guess I
> ran out of wheels. you can?t see much, but it might help
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don?t really see the utility. The lift height means you?re still
> crawling around under the car and you can?t get in from the side?only the
> ends. You could just jack the car up and use home-made dollies for a
> fraction of the cost and be able to slide under from sides as well as front
> and back. I have three of them I made for probably about $200 each. I also
> have a two post lift, and I?d say a light two post will probably fit in
> your garage?some are just 8 feet high. You can install them to be easily
> removable. I?ve seen lifts mounted on rollers. Not that big of a price
> difference.
>
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> I bought a used 3500# QJ.  I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all
> the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.  It fits between the tires
> with a few inches clearance.  The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter
> than the Miata.  I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I
> have stored one jack under there.  Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500#
> one?  If so, that may be an issue for you.
>
> It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.  The wheels at one
> end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple
> of them.  When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
>
> One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the
> center underside of the car from the front or back.  Can't just scoot under
> the side.
>
> The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.  I bought some extra rubber
> blocks that fit around the pinch welds.  These same rubber blocks can also
> be used under the TR frame.
>
> I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is
> portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or
> access to power at the track.
>
> Joe B
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so
> instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000
> pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good
> price on the 5000# unit.
>
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>
> JVV
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Tue Nov 17 14:42:27 2020
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:42:27 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Lifts
References: <FB228969-4AC1-4ACE-864B-11F09E81510A.ref@aol.com>
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Jerry,

I?m a Costco sucker! 3-4 years ago they sold MaxJax at a never again seen price. This is a portable 2 post lift that you bolt to the floor but can unbolt and tuck away. The posts don?t stand more than 7? when in highest position. I installed and never removed because there?s always a car up in it.! Then a year ago Costco starting selling the BL5000SLX Quick Jacks. Thinking I could use this for ?quick jacking? I bought it when they knocked an extra $100 off. Problem is I can?t use it with either my GT6 or TR4IRS race car ?cuz you can?t fit the lifters between tires unless you use a floor jack to lift one end and remove tires. Kinda defeats the purpose! It works with my street cars great!

I think I looked at the 3500 version on the mfrs website and thought it was smaller and might work with LBCs, but I couldn?t get the Costco pricing. If anything, consider the MaxJax with all the benefits of a 2 post lift.

Just my opinion...

John Frymark

Sent from my iPad


From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 17 15:30:21 2020
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 22:30:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Front crankshaft extension
References: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all!?I'm working on my wife's TR6 race car and it has an electric fan, but still has the iron extension that the stock fan bolts to. Is there any reason to leave this in place? Since I know these crankshafts have some wonky (to say the least) harmonics, I wasn't sure if I should remove it.
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From chip at theukmotorsports.com  Tue Nov 17 16:04:00 2020
From: chip at theukmotorsports.com (Chip Collingwood)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:04:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Front crankshaft extension
In-Reply-To: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
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http://www.pattonmachine.com/Fan-Eliminator-Kit.htm

Chip Collingwood
theukmotorsports.com
(804) 564-1839


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 5:32 PM Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello all!
> I'm working on my wife's TR6 race car and it has an electric fan, but
> still has the iron extension that the stock fan bolts to. Is there any
> reason to leave this in place? Since I know these crankshafts have some
> wonky (to say the least) harmonics, I wasn't sure if I should remove it.
>
> Thanks much,
> Jake Jacobsen
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 17 17:58:02 2020
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:58:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Front crankshaft extension
In-Reply-To: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <548035016.3810994.1605661082946@mail.yahoo.com>

 Plus one for the Patton Machine piece. Goodparts has it too.
Been running them for years, no problems.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 5:31:54 PM EST, Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hello all!?I'm working on my wife's TR6 race car and it has an electric fan, but still has the iron extension that the stock fan bolts to. Is there any reason to leave this in place? Since I know these crankshafts have some wonky (to say the least) harmonics, I wasn't sure if I should remove it.
Thanks much,Jake Jacobsen_______________________________________________
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From greenman62 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 18 16:39:15 2020
From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (Greg Petrolati)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 23:39:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
Message-ID: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

Greg Petrolati

Sent from my iPhone

From dmar823 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 18 17:16:47 2020
From: dmar823 at gmail.com (Don Marshall)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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I don't know about 1/24, but AirFix had one in 1/32.


On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 6:39 PM Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think
> it was an AMT.
>
> Can anyone confirm?
>
> Greg Petrolati
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 18 17:21:00 2020
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (yellow-green)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:21:00 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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Airfix made one at 1/32 scale.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy A11, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 11/18/20  5:41 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom... I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. Can anyone confirm?Greg PetrolatiSent from my iPhone_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Wed Nov 18 17:46:54 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 00:46:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
In-Reply-To: <CALsVEtCTX87F9Fz0SmFx19A2h9ybwk3D659_edYOh2ecCf3ETw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
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 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-REVELL-1254-100-TRIUMPH-TR-4-MODEL-KIT/283594379716?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3D96ceec5d474d440eb8aa55c3b9c8ba02%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D274578889852%26itm%3D283594379716%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DDefaultOrganic%26brand%3DRevell&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109
Here's one presently on Ebay made by Revell.
 
 
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Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2020 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

I don't know about 1/24, but AirFix had one in 1/32.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 6:39 PM Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

Greg Petrolati

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From kkjjk at aol.com  Wed Nov 18 17:53:03 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 00:53:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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 https://www.ebay.com/itm/AIRFIX-Triumph-TR4A-model-kit-1-32-UNBUILT-NEW-in-BOX-RARE-Plastic-Car-Model/124287406615?hash=item1cf01b5217:g:PkoAAOSwGpxfK3l3
And here's an Airfix NOS on Ebay as well.
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

Airfix made one at 1/32 scale.


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy A11, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------From: Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 11/18/20 5:41 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom... 
I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed Nov 18 19:25:55 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:25:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 diff cover to TR3 fitment
Message-ID: <662534435.10603.1605752755932@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello Friends,
Has anyone ever tried to install a TR6 differential cover on a TR3?  Pre-60,000 VIN, early floor.  It looks too deep and clearance to the floor is close.   Of course the mounting ears would have to be removed.  
Thanks,
Dave H.
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Nov 19 03:54:18 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 05:54:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wheel Bearings (Front)
Message-ID: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>

Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too.
Thanks; asking for a friend.
JVV
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 19 04:08:17 2020
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 11:08:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wheel Bearings (Front)
In-Reply-To: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>
References: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>
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Hi Jerry,Below is my snapshot for my last order of Stock triumph bearings for a TR4. ? However, the bearing seal was incorrect- I tried to get too fancy and this was not the felt seal as desired. ? So one of the part numbers below is bogus, that is the part number for a seal.?
I hope that helps. ? These were ordered from Rock?Auto.
Thanks,Dave Gott

|
| 
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| 
| TIMKEN | 03162 | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 07100S | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 07210X | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 03062 | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 480991 | (2) |

 |  | 296263970331740

You should receive by Friday, February 16, 2018
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|




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On Thursday, November 19, 2020, 5:54 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too.Thanks; asking for a friend.JVV_______________________________________________
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 05:35:08 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:35:08 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 diff cover to TR3 fitment
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Dave,   I've never tried to fit to a TR3, bit a TR4A, maybe TR250 diff
cover has bolt on mounting ears.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello Friends,
> Has anyone ever tried to install a TR6 differential cover on a TR3?
> Pre-60,000 VIN, early floor.  It looks too deep and clearance to the floor
> is close.   Of course the mounting ears would have to be removed.
> Thanks,
> Dave H.
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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Thu Nov 19 06:59:35 2020
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FW: short video. Walt at COTA
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From: walt at hot-tr6.com

 

Very short video at COTA but if you look closely you can see my blue TR6 during a race.

Walter Hollowell

 


 

 

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Near the end of the video!

 


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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Nov 19 07:49:55 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:49:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front)
In-Reply-To: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>
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Message-ID: <3165D59FAEC74159A2CD006A09412DE1@VlackTK121647>

Thanks everyone as always very helpful.
JVV

From: Jerry Van Vlack 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:54 AM
To: FOT ; triumphs at autox.team.net 
Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front)

Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too.
Thanks; asking for a friend.
JVV


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From vangoughv at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 19 08:08:20 2020
From: vangoughv at hotmail.com (Vangoughv)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 10:08:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for someone to refresh a GT6 Transmission
Message-ID: <FR1P15201MB243835FCDADAE35636606331B2E00@FR1P15201MB2438.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I?m looking for someone that is well experienced in rebuilding gearboxes. I removed the working gearbox from my street GT6 due to clutch wear and when inspecting the main gearbox found it is in great need of a rebuild even though it was still shifting well When removed.  

Please contact me off line if you can recommend anyone reasonably close to me.  I?m in central Ontario.  My long time go to at the British shop here has retired and a transmission is about the only thing I?d prefer not to tackle myself. 

Thanks in advance. 

Vince
PS - I?m not apposed to dealing someone in a US State close to Ontario.  

From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Nov 19 08:52:34 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 07:52:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 diff cover to TR3 fitment
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Yes. I know of the earlier two part cover. I just happen to have one from a TR6 and thought I'd ask the group experience.
Thanks,
DH

>     On 11/19/2020 4:35 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>      
>      
>     Dave,   I've never tried to fit to a TR3, bit a TR4A, maybe TR250 diff cover has bolt on mounting ears. 
> 
>     Bob Kramer
> 
>     On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM DAVE HOGYE via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
>         > >         Hello Friends,
> >         Has anyone ever tried to install a TR6 differential cover on a TR3?  Pre-60,000 VIN, early floor.  It looks too deep and clearance to the floor is close.   Of course the mounting ears would have to be removed.  
> >         Thanks,
> >         Dave H.
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Thu Nov 19 18:06:21 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 01:06:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] GT6 race car
References: <840435773.120322.1605834381913.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi, all-? There is a 1967 Mark I (with a Mark II bonnet) GT6 race car on BAT.? I know that car was driven by one of the Dolan boys at the Kastner Cup at Mid Ohio in June.? It says the owner is listed in Nashville TN.? Is that your car, Jim (Dolan)??? -- Jay De Pol
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From robertten1 at aol.com  Thu Nov 19 20:01:39 2020
From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 03:01:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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I have a kit in 1/32 scale made by MPC.

Bob T'64 Spit GT autocrosser
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I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Fri Nov 20 01:32:59 2020
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 08:32:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS809US810&sxsrf=ALeKk00QFOEKnRl4wutP0N7c-XRq7ylkow%3A1605861073960&ei=0X63X9yHOs7R5gLAi6LgDQ&q=triumph+tr4+model+kit&oq=amt+tr4+model&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHUABYAGDOqwJoAHACeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQCqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAEIwAEB&sclient=psy-ab

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 I have a kit in 1/32 scale made by MPC.

 Bob T '64 Spit GT autocrosser
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 Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2020 6:39 pm
 Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

 I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I
think it was an AMT. 

  Can anyone confirm?

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 20 07:48:03 2020
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 06:48:03 -0800
Subject: [Fot] FW: short video. Walt at COTA
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Nice cameo!

Chuck

> On Nov 19, 2020, at 6:01 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
>  
>  
> From: walt at hot-tr6.com
>  
> Very short video at COTA but if you look closely you can see my blue TR6 during a race.
> Walter Hollowell
>  
> 
>  
>  
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3351240338278185&id=100001767543699&sfnsn=mo 
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> Near the end of the video!
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Nov 20 10:21:05 2020
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 17:21:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Not in the Kastner prep manuals
Message-ID: <CY4PR16MB15120B137A7878FDE9717B1A90FF0@CY4PR16MB1512.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

I bought a TR3 so I could get this sweet Carter carburetor set up!  Can't wait to get it on the dyno!

Henrry Morrison, Salt Lake City.

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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 20 11:25:17 2020
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 11:25:17 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Not in the Kastner prep manuals
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Hey Henry,
Is that engine I built for Rob so hot that you need to de-tune it?
I?m curious on dyno results too - shouldn?t cost more than 10hp or so?!
Cheers,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM


> On Nov 20, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I bought a TR3 so I could get this sweet Carter carburetor set up!  Can't wait to get it on the dyno!
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> Henrry Morrison, Salt Lake City. 
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From markhaynestile at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 08:07:51 2020
From: markhaynestile at gmail.com (Mark Haynes)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:07:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
Message-ID: <CAPvTz9xP6ek_ThtEfKrszDxvjjqCippnbaK9FhiVs03yZJvNTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looking to replace this left steering  arm.  Can't seem to find one in the
usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.  Found
them for later models, but not this one.
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Sat Nov 21 08:27:13 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:27:13 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
In-Reply-To: <CAPvTz9xP6ek_ThtEfKrszDxvjjqCippnbaK9FhiVs03yZJvNTQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176
Lots of used stuff.
JVV

From: Mark Haynes via Fot 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net 
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1

Looking to replace this left steering  arm.  Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.  Found them for later models, but not this one.  
Thanks Mark 


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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 21 09:27:58 2020
From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:27:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
In-Reply-To: <93A9E30A0358416CB47FCDE6F1EC3ADE@VlackTK121647>
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 if you fall short of what you need let me know, might have buried in the garage, know I parted a few MkI's years back
Ralph
    On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 09:28:11 AM CST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176Lots of used stuff.JVV?From: Mark Haynes via Fot Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AMTo: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1?Looking to replace this left steering? arm.? Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.? Found them for later models, but not this one.? Thanks Mark 

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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Sat Nov 21 09:50:42 2020
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:50:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
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I just called Scott about some parts.? He was very fast at getting me what I
needed, as usual.?

John
?



On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:27:13 -0500, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
?


Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176

Lots of used stuff.

JVV



?


From: Mark Haynes via Fot

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AM

To: fot at autox.team.net

Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1



?



Looking to replace this left steering? arm.? Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.? Found them for later models, but not this one.?
Thanks Mark


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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Nov 21 10:38:35 2020
From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:38:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
In-Reply-To: <93A9E30A0358416CB47FCDE6F1EC3ADE@VlackTK121647>
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I might have one since I parted out an early Mk1 a few years ago. If you can send me a photo and/or part number that is on the unit, I will have a look in my parts stash.

Joe


> On November 21, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>     Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176
>     Lots of used stuff.
>     JVV
>      
>     From: Mark Haynes via Fot
>     Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AM
>     To: fot at autox.team.net
>     Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
>      
>     Looking to replace this left steering  arm.  Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.  Found them for later models, but not this one. 
>     Thanks Mark
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Sat Nov 21 11:42:45 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:42:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Advance BTDC for 1296 Spit?
Message-ID: <9024D522-72B2-44FF-A89E-65876CBD12F7@comcast.net>

Listerati,

I?m curious what total advance you Spifire racers are using @3000-4000 RPM and up? 

I had someone in New Mexico swear that he runs 48 degrees @4000 RPM and backs down by 2 degrees until it doesn?t knock on WOT. I?m not sure I?m brave enough to run that much advance.

What say you list? What total advance are you running at what RPM. And what compression ratio?

I?m running 36 degrees total advance @ 3000 RPM for a 12.52 compression engine and that?s worked pretty good so far. But I?m always looking to get out of the corners faster yet pull hard in the straights sooo????

Thanks
Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)



From ofracer at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 13:41:12 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:41:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Advance BTDC for 1296 Spit?
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Bud, I'm running 34 degrees from 3500 up and could probably go more. I used
to run 36 with an older, lower compression engine, but that was with a
pertronix set up. Currently using a points system from Jeff at Advanced set
up (19 degrees mechanical advance up to 3500) for this cam (APT-BK74) and
compression ~ 13.2.  No knocking, no overheating, could probably go some
more still tweaking the fuel system.

mike h

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:46 PM Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Listerati,
>
> I?m curious what total advance you Spifire racers are using @3000-4000 RPM
> and up?
>
> I had someone in New Mexico swear that he runs 48 degrees @4000 RPM and
> backs down by 2 degrees until it doesn?t knock on WOT. I?m not sure I?m
> brave enough to run that much advance.
>
> What say you list? What total advance are you running at what RPM. And
> what compression ratio?
>
> I?m running 36 degrees total advance @ 3000 RPM for a 12.52 compression
> engine and that?s worked pretty good so far. But I?m always looking to get
> out of the corners faster yet pull hard in the straights sooo????
>
> Thanks
> Bud Rolofson
>
> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
>
> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle
> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 21 15:10:02 2020
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:10:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Advance BTDC for 1296 Spit?
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Hi Bud,
I can?t speak to a 12.5 1296 but I can speak to tuning for altitude. I do a fair amount of dyno tuning at 5500? here in Albuquerque. Be it a 40hp Formula Vee or a 500hp V8, if the engine was properly timed at sea level I?ll usually end up 4-5 degrees advanced from where it was. I?ll go up 2 degrees per pull until the power goes backwards and then set it for peak power minus maybe one degree for safety sake. The one caveat is to remember to dial it back when going to the lowlands!
Starting at 48(!) degrees and backing down sounds like a recipe for disaster. Must be hell on starters too - if it will even crank over with that much timing.
A chassis dyno is your friend and doesn?t lie.
People seem to think it?s expensive but that?s really not the case - maybe my dyno guy treats me exceptionally well, but I can get two ?base-line? pulls for $40 (and sometimes that?s all I?ll do for the session) and rarely over $150 for extensive tuning (8-10 pulls. 
My $.02 worth,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Listerati,
> 
> I?m curious what total advance you Spifire racers are using @3000-4000 RPM and up? 
> 
> I had someone in New Mexico swear that he runs 48 degrees @4000 RPM and backs down by 2 degrees until it doesn?t knock on WOT. I?m not sure I?m brave enough to run that much advance.
> 
> What say you list? What total advance are you running at what RPM. And what compression ratio?
> 
> I?m running 36 degrees total advance @ 3000 RPM for a 12.52 compression engine and that?s worked pretty good so far. But I?m always looking to get out of the corners faster yet pull hard in the straights sooo????
> 
> Thanks
> Bud Rolofson
> 
> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
> 
> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
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From maddhatt69 at aol.com  Sat Nov 21 17:58:09 2020
From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 00:58:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
References: <2041596136.526249.1606006689154.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Friends! 

I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!


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From kkjjk at aol.com  Sat Nov 21 18:14:42 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 01:14:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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 Good for you, Hoovie!? I was supposed to be there but my 35th Anniversary won out (I did get a little leverage for next season, however...? I think, anyway.)? Go get em!...
 
 
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Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl

Friends! I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 19:55:12 2020
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:55:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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Hoovie - Thanks for representing Triumphs & Spitfires!

 My newly rebuilt 1300 engine goes on the dyno again next week at AGSVRC in Savannah and then the ?64 Spit should be ready for VDCA at Roebling next month!

Terry

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 20:06, Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Friends!
> 
> I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
> 
> - Hoovie
> 
> <FB_IMG_1606006524474.jpg>
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 20:33:33 2020
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:33:33 -0800
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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That?s a fine Bill Stoler photo!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hoovie - Thanks for representing Triumphs & Spitfires!
> 
>  My newly rebuilt 1300 engine goes on the dyno again next week at AGSVRC in Savannah and then the ?64 Spit should be ready for VDCA at Roebling next month!
> 
> Terry
> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 20:06, Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Friends!
>> 
>> I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
>> 
>> - Hoovie
>> 
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Nov 22 06:04:20 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 08:04:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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Keep ?em in your mirrors!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?That?s a fine Bill Stoler photo!
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Hoovie - Thanks for representing Triumphs & Spitfires!
>> 
>>  My newly rebuilt 1300 engine goes on the dyno again next week at AGSVRC in Savannah and then the ?64 Spit should be ready for VDCA at Roebling next month!
>> 
>> Terry
>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 20:06, Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Friends!
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>>> I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 15:11:49 2020
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:11:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
Message-ID: <CAG9YvYOBVzzcz4G-KMVCZDRifB=P9mCBYK_UM+gJRdRFXO-nBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Amichi
Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back
up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface
so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket
through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to
pics <https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA>) I've heard of blocks
being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot?
Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have
antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it
travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the
exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and
depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly
inspected and magged.

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or *?* for damper rebuilds?

Thanks Friends
Be Careful out there
Brian

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From rek46 at aol.com  Sun Nov 22 15:32:52 2020
From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 22:32:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
In-Reply-To: <CAG9YvYOBVzzcz4G-KMVCZDRifB=P9mCBYK_UM+gJRdRFXO-nBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOBVzzcz4G-KMVCZDRifB=P9mCBYK_UM+gJRdRFXO-nBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1374208778.673576.1606084372262@mail.yahoo.com>

ask him if " pinning it " would help?In a message dated 11/22/2020 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:?
Hey AmichiFigured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection?that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.?Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts?will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.?Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds??Thanks FriendsBe Careful out thereBrian
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Nov 22 16:05:13 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:05:13 -0500
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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A while back someone on FOT posted about a threaded insert that is supposed to hold the block together around the crack. Seems like a good idea. We have two blocks with similar cracks ( yes, it is common especially if the head studs are over torqued) and they will get this treatment. Here is a link:

http://castingrepair.locknstitch.com/category/fsb-style-inserts-2

Phil Gott

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> On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:41 PM, rek46 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> ask him if " pinning it " would help
>  
> In a message dated 11/22/2020 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:
>  
> Hey Amichi
> Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.
>  
> Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.
>  
> Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?
>  
> Thanks Friends
> Be Careful out there
> Brian
> 
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From tr4 at wi.rr.com  Sun Nov 22 16:34:43 2020
From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (Steve Yott)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:34:43 -0600
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
In-Reply-To: <CAG9YvYOBVzzcz4G-KMVCZDRifB=P9mCBYK_UM+gJRdRFXO-nBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.608.1638251772.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

For the stud hole in the block I have repaired many using the Time-Sert, Big-Sert thread repair system.? Works perfectly and easy to do.. I did not say cheap but easy!Dampers are cheaper to buy new from BPNW than having them rebuilt.SteveSteve Yott
-------- Original message --------From: Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 11/22/20  4:13 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] cracked block Hey AmichiFigured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection?that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts?will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?Thanks FriendsBe Careful out thereBrian--?Brian Schirano585-305-0349
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Nov 22 18:04:07 2020
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 02:04:07 +0100
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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Hi,

 

most of the TR3/4 blocks are killed by head studs driven in with tools instead by running them down by hand.

If the water jacket of the block is not centered properly the wall between thread and water gets quite thin.

If the stud is ran in with a tool plus the torque of the head nuts this is too much for the cast iron to hold and the block develops cracks at the short bolts.

 

As a repair you can try to bring in a thread sleeve and soldering the block with silver solder.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Brian Schirano via Fot
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. November 2020 23:12
An: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] cracked block

 

Hey Amichi

Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics <https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA> ) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

 

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.

 

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?

 

Thanks Friends

Be Careful out there

Brian




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From sjanzen at me.com  Sun Nov 22 19:12:32 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 21:12:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
In-Reply-To: <CAG9YvYOBVzzcz4G-KMVCZDRifB=P9mCBYK_UM+gJRdRFXO-nBQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hmm, GT6 blocks are not that rare. Ought to be able to find one for $100-$200. Why mess around with something iffy?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hey Amichi
> Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.
> 
> Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.
> 
> Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?
> 
> Thanks Friends
> Be Careful out there
> Brian
> 
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From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Sun Nov 22 19:39:59 2020
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 02:39:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
In-Reply-To: <6057F750-D5D5-45B6-A2C8-7D47473532B6@me.com>
References: <CAG9YvYOBVzzcz4G-KMVCZDRifB=P9mCBYK_UM+gJRdRFXO-nBQ@mail.gmail.com>,
 <6057F750-D5D5-45B6-A2C8-7D47473532B6@me.com>
Message-ID: <00de448db279439182275286aac2775c@dieselperformanceparts.com>

I got a complete engine,  in a parts car, supposedly was a runner 5 to 7 years ago. You can have the engine frame body everything for 250.00. Nashville,TN.
If your interested let me know and I'll turn it over to make sure she's still all free to rotate etc.



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S20 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: 11/22/20 8:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Brian Schirano <bschirano1 at gmail.com>
Cc: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] cracked block

Hmm, GT6 blocks are not that rare. Ought to be able to find one for $100-$200. Why mess around with something iffy?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Hey Amichi
Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics<https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA>) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?

Thanks Friends
Be Careful out there
Brian

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From hankgiffin at cox.net  Mon Nov 23 23:58:43 2020
From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 01:58:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
Message-ID: <014701d6c22f$40aa91a0$c1ffb4e0$@cox.net>

FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.

    Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard
both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from
friends I should be.  

     A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my old
racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great condition.
My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the company who
did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing my suit?

     Thanks, Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Tue Nov 24 01:19:22 2020
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 02:19:22 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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Re Oil:
I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ... got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps. Never had a problem again! 
He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race car, no. 
But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly. Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t. 
--Rocky
From: Henry Giffin via Fot 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net 
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?

FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.

    Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from friends I should be.  

     A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing my suit?

     Thanks, Hank

 

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757-375-1491

 



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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue Nov 24 04:34:40 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:34:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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Correct: The purpose of the oil is to retard the rise of the piston. Why do that? If you can watch the fuel flow out of the orifice, you?ll see that slowing the piston rise gives a temporary enrichment, similar to the accelerator pump in a fixed- Venturi carburetor. 
This is needed because opening the throttle raises the pressure in the manifold ( remember it is running as a vacuum) and so raising the pressure makes the fuel condense onto the walls of the manifold ( like rain!) and so you temporarily need more of it in the air stream  to compensate.
Unlike street engines, race engines are tuned extra-rich to begin with, so they are less sensitive to this phenomenon. You can get away with no oil in the carbs sometimes. 
I run 10 W (when I can get it) or cheap ATF. Why? I find the engine is more responsive under part throttle conditions such as when I am feathering the throttle in controlled oversteer conditions (I run a welded diff so the throttle is part of my steering mechanism.)
Try it both ways and see how it works in your car at the altitude you run. It?s more about driveability than absolute power.
Phil Gott


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> On Nov 24, 2020, at 3:20 AM, Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Re Oil:
> I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ... got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps. Never had a problem again!
>  
> He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race car, no.
>  
> But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly. Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t.
>  
> --Rocky
>  
> From: Henry Giffin via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
>  
> FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.
>     Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from friends I should be. 
>      A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing my suit?
>      Thanks, Hank
>  
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 04:51:26 2020
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:51:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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I found the opposite response with my CD175 Strombergs.  If the piston
rises too quickly the venturi effect is reduced and adequate fuel is not
drawn through the jet causing a lean mixture.  I use marvel mystery oil.


On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 3:19 AM Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Re Oil:
> I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could
> not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ...
> got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps.
> Never had a problem again!
>
> He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of
> the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It
> was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race
> engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race
> car, no.
>
> But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly.
> Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t.
>
> --Rocky
>
> *From:* Henry Giffin via Fot
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
> *To:* fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
>
>
> FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.
>
>     Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard
> both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from
> friends I should be.
>
>      A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my
> old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great
> condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the
> company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing
> my suit?
>
>      Thanks, Hank
>
>
>
> Hank Giffin
>
> 757-375-1491
>
>
>
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 06:31:25 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:31:25 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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The piston not only controls velocity by restricting the size of the
opening below; it also controls mixture by raising the tapered needle.
Moving a car to a higher elevation suggests that the engine would be
happier with a leaner mixture to run properly and I can see how removing
the damping effect could improve that.  Would lowering the needle jets have
done the same thing?  How about using a softer spring above the piston to
counter the lower atmospheric pressure?  There's another factor on racing
engines, too, and I'm not sure how to estimate its effects -- a long
duration cam would raise manifold pressure (or reduce manifold vacuum; pick
your nomenclature).

I recall reading a tip in one of Kas' tuning books to remove the pistons
(or the rings from the pistons, I can't recall which).  Since reading that
I've wondered how they tuned the carbs to cope with coming out of slow
corners that required the engine to be in the low end of the rev range,
below the fat part of the torque curve.  Did they run a very rich needle
and jet combination?  Did they strictly use OD gearboxes to keep the revs
up in those situations?

The following may be the opposite case to a naturally aspirated race engine
run at high elevation: I had a supercharged 1275cc Mini (supercharger was
downstream of an SU HIF44 carb) that bogged significantly when the throttle
was snapped open (I'm at 300' elevation).  The PO had been dutifully using
SU brand dashpot oil and that oil appears to have low viscosity, so it's
perhaps 10 weight.  After experimentation I found that 40 weight ND engine
oil really woke up the engine.

Duncan

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:01 AM John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I found the opposite response with my CD175 Strombergs.  If the piston
> rises too quickly the venturi effect is reduced and adequate fuel is not
> drawn through the jet causing a lean mixture.  I use marvel mystery oil.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 3:19 AM Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Re Oil:
>> I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could
>> not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ...
>> got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps.
>> Never had a problem again!
>>
>> He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of
>> the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It
>> was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race
>> engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race
>> car, no.
>>
>> But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly.
>> Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t.
>>
>> --Rocky
>>
>> *From:* Henry Giffin via Fot
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
>> *To:* fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
>>
>>
>> FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.
>>
>>     Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have
>> heard both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard
>> from friends I should be.
>>
>>      A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my
>> old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great
>> condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the
>> company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing
>> my suit?
>>
>>      Thanks, Hank
>>
>>
>>
>> Hank Giffin
>>
>> 757-375-1491
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 13:41:55 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:41:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVaRm76NhVcLse-d7V731+wzH7wwH7GtxRSAdVWv1J5icw@mail.gmail.com>

I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.

I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.

thanks
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed Nov 25 09:34:25 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:34:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.  
Dave H. 


On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

>      
>      
>     I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>      
>     I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>      
>     thanks
>     mike h
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 25 10:01:34 2020
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:01:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Hi Mike,
My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed. ?The jet stands alone on its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.? Also, the throttle shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one side. ?Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings badly. ?I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to drive at anything other than WOT. ? I bet part throttle modulation is difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there.... ?I will try them some day! ?Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs???
Dave Gott


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On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

  I know that Huffaker does this.? I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.? So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.??   Dave H.?   ?   ?   On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
  ?   ?   I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained? (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.  ?   I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.   ?   thanks   mike h   _______________________________________________ 
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Nov 25 10:27:49 2020
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:27:49 +0000
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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David Visard published a book about tuning on the BMC A series engine . There is a lot of test results on modifications to the SU?s .

As a kid   I had a Mini Cooper . I tried many things on the Su?s. One thing I learnt was everything worked well at wide open throttle ....... including removing the bridge completely and secure
Ing cables to the dash pots aka ? Amal GP? ....

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On Nov 25, 2020, at 9:04 AM, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? Hi Mike,

My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed.  The jet stands alone on its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.  Also, the throttle shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one side.  Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings badly.  I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to drive at anything other than WOT.   I bet part throttle modulation is difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there....  I will try them some day!  Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs?

Dave Gott


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On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
Dave H.


On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.

I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.

thanks
mike h
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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 10:34:34 2020
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 12:34:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Back in the day we thought we needed the bridge to help mix the incoming
air with the fuel.
Bruce

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:04 PM David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper
> removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed.  The jet stands alone on
> its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.  Also, the throttle
> shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one
> side.  Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings
> badly.  I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to
> drive at anything other than WOT.   I bet part throttle modulation is
> difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there....  I will try them
> some day!  Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs?
>
> Dave Gott
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil
> and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost
> nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what
> the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head
> gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
> Dave H.
>
>
> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
> be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
> sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
> mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>
> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>
> thanks
> mike h
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From vfracing at aol.com  Wed Nov 25 10:44:10 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 12:44:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Still need the bridge!
We had a set of computune carbs with bridge removed on a 948 bug eye. It needed hand choking to start, wouldn?t run worth a darn below 3000 rpm. And if it stalled in the grid, very likely, it needed a vigorous push start.
Post Mortem we learned that on these the float level needs to be set high enough that the fuel literally dribbles out of the jet. That?s apparently the only way to get them to run at most any throttle setting and engine speed other than wide open.
There are a lot of ways to improve these carbs, but removing the bridge isn?t one of them unless you after pure WOT horsepower.
Phil Gott



Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Bruce Stutzman via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Back in the day we thought we needed the bridge to help mix the incoming air with the fuel.
> Bruce
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:04 PM David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed.  The jet stands alone on its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.  Also, the throttle shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one side.  Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings badly.  I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to drive at anything other than WOT.   I bet part throttle modulation is difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there....  I will try them some day!  Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs?  
>> 
>> Dave Gott
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.  
>> Dave H. 
>>  
>>  
>>> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>>>  
>>> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>>>  
>>> thanks
>>> mike h
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Wed Nov 25 11:15:18 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:15:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Running/Turn light improvement
Message-ID: <FC208B15-B16F-49D8-8FD2-D84BC3883AA8@comcast.net>

Listerati,

Happy Thanksgiving to all. I?m thankful for family, friends, and surviving (so far) the pandemic. I?m also thankful I have a Triumph or two to complete some little projects I?ve been wanting to get to for a long time. Maybe that?s the silver lining in this whole virus thing, I?m home a lot more and need things to do.

So one of them was to replace the headlights on my TR6 with LEDs. Once done I realized how shabby the running/turn lights and the side marker lights were in comparison so I decided to clean, treat, and improve on them.

First I cleaned everything, the lens with soap and water and the light bucket. Get all the dust (even sealed there was dust) off everything including the 1157 bulb and especially the sparse reflectors behind the bulb. I used a two part headlight restore kit (ArmorAll) to clean the road film off the lens and then seal it with some UV protection.

Then I lined the top and bottom of the light bucket (which comes with no top/bottom reflective surfaces) with some adhesive backed foil tape (3M scotch foil tape 3311) as seen in the photo below to increase the reflective surfaces. The triangles that resulted when I cut the shape needed for the running lights I used in the side marker lights, which also got the cleaning treatment. They fit without even any trimming.

The results were amazing once those light bulbs had more reflective surfaces all around and a clean clear lens.

Next, an alternator for the #3.

Now back to making pumpkin pies.

Regards
Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)













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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Wed Nov 25 12:31:02 2020
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (John Davies)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:31:02 -0000
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 339
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"Refurbishing" a race suit??    Dry cleaning does for me, although a modern
suit can be machine washed.

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From bownes at seiri.com  Wed Nov 25 12:48:45 2020
From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 14:48:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Running/Turn light improvement
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Wow. Great idea!

> On Nov 25, 2020, at 13:20, Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Listerati,
> 
> Happy Thanksgiving to all. I?m thankful for family, friends, and surviving (so far) the pandemic. I?m also thankful I have a Triumph or two to complete some little projects I?ve been wanting to get to for a long time. Maybe that?s the silver lining in this whole virus thing, I?m home a lot more and need things to do.
> 
> So one of them was to replace the headlights on my TR6 with LEDs. Once done I realized how shabby the running/turn lights and the side marker lights were in comparison so I decided to clean, treat, and improve on them.
> 
> First I cleaned everything, the lens with soap and water and the light bucket. Get all the dust (even sealed there was dust) off everything including the 1157 bulb and especially the sparse reflectors behind the bulb. I used a two part headlight restore kit (ArmorAll) to clean the road film off the lens and then seal it with some UV protection.
> 
> Then I lined the top and bottom of the light bucket (which comes with no top/bottom reflective surfaces) with some adhesive backed foil tape (3M scotch foil tape 3311) as seen in the photo below to increase the reflective surfaces. The triangles that resulted when I cut the shape needed for the running lights I used in the side marker lights, which also got the cleaning treatment. They fit without even any trimming.
> 
> The results were amazing once those light bulbs had more reflective surfaces all around and a clean clear lens.
> 
> Next, an alternator for the #3.
> 
> Now back to making pumpkin pies.
> 
> Regards
> Bud Rolofson
> 
> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
> 
> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
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From paulricco at att.net  Wed Nov 25 13:29:30 2020
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 14:29:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Molecule Labs Nomex Fabric Care System - Pegasus Auto Racing
 Supplies
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We have been very happy with these products.

The system works well and will not damage how the Nomex thread is designed to work when it gets hot.  Additionally, it is worth the part about why it is important to get the flammable oil stains out of the fabric before you are on fire.

> https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=MOLECULE <https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=MOLECULE>

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Wed Nov 25 14:55:55 2020
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:55:55 +1000
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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I have had a few goes at shaving throttle shafts with very mixed
results..typically fracturing where they meet the carby body.  if you
planned to change them routinely, thats not such an issue

Some recent flow bench work leaves me wondering completely about the wisdom
of any of this without real-world testing

We found some head/intake arrangements where the air flow was too high in
certain places and we had to dimple the port to slow it down. Sometimes,
just enlarging the port does not work as intended

The very best SU research ive seen was done by David Vizard . There are
plenty of on-line references to his work, but if anyone can't find what
they want, i can scan relevant parts of his text book (tome) on tuning BMC
A series engines. Ive used his analysis on  various shapes of ram tubes for
many years

of far more importance seems to be the distance from the valve to the
throttle plate, with the ideal varying considerably with the RPM range
being used. As a general comment, it seems like many folk have it far too
long

I have proven that fiddling with the damper in a SU has a dramatic effect
on throttle response, and not always what you think. i'll offer the comment
that its very engine set-up specific. Sadly, this aspect is all-but
impossible to test on a conventional flow bench

Terry
Australia



On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 2:35 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil
> and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost
> nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what
> the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head
> gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
> Dave H.
>
>
> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
> be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
> sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
> mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>
> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>
> thanks
> mike h
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 17:59:56 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:59:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Thanks to everyone for their insights. I think I'll just look for any
obvious rough spots but mostly leave well enough alone.

mike h

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 4:52 PM Enquiries Road & Track <
enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au> wrote:

> I have had a few goes at shaving throttle shafts with very mixed
> results..typically fracturing where they meet the carby body.  if you
> planned to change them routinely, thats not such an issue
>
> Some recent flow bench work leaves me wondering completely about the
> wisdom of any of this without real-world testing
>
> We found some head/intake arrangements where the air flow was too high in
> certain places and we had to dimple the port to slow it down. Sometimes,
> just enlarging the port does not work as intended
>
> The very best SU research ive seen was done by David Vizard . There are
> plenty of on-line references to his work, but if anyone can't find what
> they want, i can scan relevant parts of his text book (tome) on tuning BMC
> A series engines. Ive used his analysis on  various shapes of ram tubes for
> many years
>
> of far more importance seems to be the distance from the valve to the
> throttle plate, with the ideal varying considerably with the RPM range
> being used. As a general comment, it seems like many folk have it far too
> long
>
> I have proven that fiddling with the damper in a SU has a dramatic effect
> on throttle response, and not always what you think. i'll offer the comment
> that its very engine set-up specific. Sadly, this aspect is all-but
> impossible to test on a conventional flow bench
>
> Terry
> Australia
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 2:35 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper
>> oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to
>> almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know
>> what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head
>> gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
>> Dave H.
>>
>>
>> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
>> be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
>> sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
>> mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>>
>> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>>
>> thanks
>> mike h
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  1 08:33:06 2020
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 15:33:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
 =?utf-8?q?ent=2E?=
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Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
Mike


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.From: Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.

FOT,

We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.

Any interest?? Trying to set priorities.

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 08:49:57 2020
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 09:49:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
 =?utf-8?q?ent=2E?=
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Message-ID: <DCC9BAB9-DE95-4C0F-A619-A3F528ABFBE9@gmail.com>

Mike,

Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.

Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ? Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.
> From: Joe Alexander via Fot
> Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.
> 
> FOT,
> 
> We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.
> 
> Any interest?  Trying to set priorities.
> 
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Sun Nov  1 13:27:05 2020
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 14:27:05 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speedie sleeve for diff flange
Message-ID: <03F28434-3A74-435B-86EB-6F534005770C@icloud.com>

Does anyone know if this is the appropriate speedie sleeve for the diff input for TR3-6?

skf 99150

Thanks. 
Greg


Sent from my iPhone

From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  1 13:33:42 2020
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 20:33:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
 =?utf-8?q?ent=2E?=
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 <DCC9BAB9-DE95-4C0F-A619-A3F528ABFBE9@gmail.com>
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It would be cool to have one with a full radius opening like the velocity stacks.Mike


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 9:49 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:

Mike,
Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.
Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.

Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711


On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:



?Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
Mike


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.From: Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.

FOT,

We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.

Any interest?? Trying to set priorities.

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 13:47:13 2020
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 14:47:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
 =?utf-8?q?ent=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1456505518.1111887.1604262822257@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1456505518.1111887.1604262822257@mail.yahoo.com>
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Yes. That was my thinking when we were discussing the metal spinning tooling design.

Like the Kastner designed Velovity Stack.  A blanking operation and two forming operations.   The first run will be 100 pieces. 

Thanks for mentioning this.

Sure loved riding in one of your new Corvettes. What a masterpiece.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ? It would be cool to have one with a full radius opening like the velocity stacks.
> Mike
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 9:49 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.
> 
> Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> ? Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.
>> From: Joe Alexander via Fot
>> Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.
>> 
>> FOT,
>> 
>> We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.
>> 
>> Any interest?  Trying to set priorities.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Nov  1 19:36:52 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 21:36:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake_for_7=E2=80=9D_headlamp_replacem?=
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References: <74B1CB74-8C62-4964-9966-FF9709145AEE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54F66778-6E63-4CF0-B87D-458B6EE7FE0A@aol.com>

Joe:
Do you have a picture or drawing of what it would look like?
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Yes. That was my thinking when we were discussing the metal spinning tooling design.
> 
> Like the Kastner designed Velovity Stack.  A blanking operation and two forming operations.   The first run will be 100 pieces. 
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this.
> 
> Sure loved riding in one of your new Corvettes. What a masterpiece.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> ? It would be cool to have one with a full radius opening like the velocity stacks.
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 9:49 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Yes. Their duct is VERY nice.
>> 
>> Ours will be of a simpler design and a lower price point. It will be a direct mate to the one we currently offer.
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ? Are you talking about the air intakes like the Winners Circle sells?
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 3:21 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Speaking of air. I have an air box on eBay right now. It's for the TR3 TR4 engine with SU or Stromberg carbs.
>>> From: Joe Alexander via Fot
>>> Sent: ?10/?31/?2020 11:38 AM
>>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Fot] Cold Air Intake for 7? headlamp replacement.
>>> 
>>> FOT,
>>> 
>>> We now have the tooling designed to produce a cold air intake with 3? tube, to mate with our current headlamp replacement.
>>> 
>>> Any interest?  Trying to set priorities.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>> 
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>> 
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 08:53:08 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 09:53:08 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speedie sleeve for diff flange
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https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/68859-new-front-diff-seal-leaking/

forum responses say it is 99149

I think I have one in a box at home.  Come to think of it, it is probably
an empty box saved so I would know what to buy next time.


Bob Kramer


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 2:27 PM Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Does anyone know if this is the appropriate speedie sleeve for the diff
> input for TR3-6?
>
> skf 99150
>
> Thanks.
> Greg
>
>
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From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Tue Nov  3 21:12:59 2020
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Michael Porters collection
Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5@gmail.com>

Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and is over 1,000 miles away, 

It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. 

I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance involvement. 

I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly. Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. 

Ken Gano

Sent from my iPad

From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Nov  3 22:34:36 2020
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:34:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
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Message-ID: <a70c1c01-7eac-9e9d-98ba-31c62293310a@bradakis.com>

And also this.? Sigh.

mjb.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
Date: 	Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: 	John Young <jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com>
To: 	



Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter 
and Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father 
passed away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very 
hectic dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're 
going to do with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone 
away. I have some engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do 
something like rebuild one of these cars.

I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. 
I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. 
Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in 
Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). 
Randall also helped me pack my father's garage_s_, yes plural, when we 
moved from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or 
tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. 
And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.

Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these 
parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live 
anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does 
who could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the 
assistance. That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify 
their time.

I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone 
that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those 
things.

If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I 
scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone 
that might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the 
email on to them too.

Thank you,
Janice Morgan
yojanice at yahoo.com
765-404-4017 - call or text


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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Wed Nov  4 08:14:12 2020
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 08:14:12 -0700
Subject: [Fot] COTA
Message-ID: <035d01d6b2bd$27f5c6b0$77e15410$@hot-tr6.com>

Hello any FOT members that might be attending the SVRA COTA event this
weekend. I'm positioned in line at the entrance to lot F just waiting for
things to open. I'm setting directly across from the SVRA trailer in my
black Ford Excursion with a black trailer. Swing by and say "Hi" to give me
a call on my cell if you wish.

Walt Hollowell

Cell 505 362-4350



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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 08:56:35 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 09:56:35 -0600
Subject: [Fot] COTA
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A couple of us are helping in Tech.  See you there!

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:15 AM Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello any FOT members that might be attending the SVRA COTA event this
> weekend. I?m positioned in line at the entrance to lot F just waiting for
> things to open. I?m setting directly across from the SVRA trailer in my
> black Ford Excursion with a black trailer. Swing by and say ?Hi? to give me
> a call on my cell if you wish.
>
> Walt Hollowell
>
> Cell 505 362-4350
>
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From joeg at neb.rr.com  Wed Nov  4 16:31:39 2020
From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 17:31:39 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE & Michael Porters
 collection
Message-ID: <002901d6b302$a5a419f0$f0ec4dd0$@neb.rr.com>

Ken - (or anyone who knows) Where is Michael's daughter located?

Also - I sent an email to Janice Morgan, offering to help. I'm in the region
every once in a while, and retired now so have some time. I'm thinking it
will require a trip down to Southern Missouri to take a bunch of photos and
then start listing stuff for sale where and when appropriate. Anyone else on
board or thinking about it? Would be happy to help if I can.

Joe Guinan
Fremont, NE

------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600
From: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>
To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>, Listserv Triumph
	<triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Michael Porters collection
Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating
his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and
is over 1,000 miles away, 

It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like
there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. 

I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance
involvement. 

I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly.
Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. 

Ken Gano

Sent from my iPad

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:34:36 -0700
From: Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
Message-ID: <a70c1c01-7eac-9e9d-98ba-31c62293310a at bradakis.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

And also this.? Sigh.

mjb.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
Date: 	Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: 	John Young <jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com>
To: 	



Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter and
Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father passed
away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very hectic
dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're going to do
with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone away. I have some
engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do something like rebuild one of
these cars.

I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. 
I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. 
Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in
Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). 
Randall also helped me pack my father's garage_s_, yes plural, when we moved
from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or
tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. 
And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.

Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these
parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live
anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does who
could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the assistance.
That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify their time.

I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone
that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those
things.

If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I
scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone that
might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the email on
to them too.

Thank you,
Janice Morgan
yojanice at yahoo.com
765-404-4017 - call or text




From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 17:57:20 2020
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 18:57:20 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE & Michael Porters
 collection
In-Reply-To: <002901d6b302$a5a419f0$f0ec4dd0$@neb.rr.com>
References: <002901d6b302$a5a419f0$f0ec4dd0$@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CD1C19E5-0236-466E-82EB-7DEE1A34F69D@gmail.com>

Roswell, New Mexico 

Kg

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Ken - (or anyone who knows) Where is Michael's daughter located?
> 
> Also - I sent an email to Janice Morgan, offering to help. I'm in the region
> every once in a while, and retired now so have some time. I'm thinking it
> will require a trip down to Southern Missouri to take a bunch of photos and
> then start listing stuff for sale where and when appropriate. Anyone else on
> board or thinking about it? Would be happy to help if I can.
> 
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, NE
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600
> From: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>
> To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>, Listserv Triumph
>    <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Michael Porters collection
> Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating
> his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and
> is over 1,000 miles away, 
> 
> It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like
> there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. 
> 
> I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance
> involvement. 
> 
> I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly.
> Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. 
> 
> Ken Gano
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:34:36 -0700
> From: Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
> Message-ID: <a70c1c01-7eac-9e9d-98ba-31c62293310a at bradakis.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> 
> And also this.? Sigh.
> 
> mjb.
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:    [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
> Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
> From:    John Young <jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com>
> To:    
> 
> 
> 
> Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter and
> Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father passed
> away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very hectic
> dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're going to do
> with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone away. I have some
> engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do something like rebuild one of
> these cars.
> 
> I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. 
> I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. 
> Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in
> Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). 
> Randall also helped me pack my father's garage_s_, yes plural, when we moved
> from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or
> tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. 
> And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.
> 
> Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these
> parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live
> anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does who
> could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the assistance.
> That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify their time.
> 
> I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone
> that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those
> things.
> 
> If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I
> scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone that
> might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the email on
> to them too.
> 
> Thank you,
> Janice Morgan
> yojanice at yahoo.com
> 765-404-4017 - call or text
> 
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Wed Nov  4 18:09:23 2020
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 19:09:23 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Original paint on TR3 rear axle housing
Message-ID: <404FD8EE-9F91-4180-B41C-36AFBBEBD27F@icloud.com>

Folks looking for intel on the original paint scheme used on the TR3 axle housing. More curiosity than anything. Currently rebuilding my son?s differential and rear axles and found that the housing center section or pumpkin is painted red, axles tubes and rear cover are black. This is not the first one I?ve rebuilt with this color scheme. Was this original?  

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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri Nov  6 19:42:35 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 21:42:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
Message-ID: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.   If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
 Scott Janzen 

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From sonomascot at aol.com  Fri Nov  6 21:28:45 2020
From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:28:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
In-Reply-To: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
References: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
Message-ID: <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>

https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1970/triumph/tr6/101375016


-----Original Message-----
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To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:44
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.? If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
 Scott Janzen 

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From igofaster at att.net  Sat Nov  7 10:57:13 2020
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 17:57:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
In-Reply-To: <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
 <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>
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 I have a nice 1971 we've had for nearly 25 years... we hardly ever drive it. It's never had a frame off however in the 2 1/2 decades we've owned it I had a really nice down to the metal paint restoration job done on it... it's not perfect but it's damn nice...it appears all the panels are original in their original factory attached locations... also when I redid the dash, all the instruments appeared original to the car...? Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles

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 https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1970/triumph/tr6/101375016


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To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:44
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.? If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
 Scott Janzen 

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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat Nov  7 11:32:06 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 13:32:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6
In-Reply-To: <2128807929.2866750.1604771833067@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <67C62084-C3F9-4B4B-9728-94D92EF96DA7@me.com>
 <509196764.2761838.1604723325471@mail.yahoo.com>
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thanks, Bobby, I?ve gotten a few responses, and right now the guy is focused on one nearer to him on the east coast.

You?ll hear from me if that changes.

Scott

On Nov 7, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Bobby Whitehead via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I have a nice 1971 we've had for nearly 25 years... we hardly ever drive it. It's never had a frame off however in the 2 1/2 decades we've owned it I had a really nice down to the metal paint restoration job done on it... it's not perfect but it's damn nice...it appears all the panels are original in their original factory attached locations... also when I redid the dash, all the instruments appeared original to the car...  Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC7o3DYK7XU>

	
Triumph TR6 turns 100,000 miles
 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC7o3DYK7XU>



On Friday, November 6, 2020, 10:29:51 PM CST, Scott Meredith via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1970/triumph/tr6/101375016


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:44
Subject: [Fot] Looking for a 68-73 TR6

One of my fellow racers in VRG has a friend who is looking for a nice driver- doesn?t need to be a show car. He?s in western Massachusetts but says traveling for the right car is not an issue.  If anyone has or knows of one, let me know.

Thanks,
Scott Janzen 

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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  7 13:39:55 2020
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 15:39:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] EylCoil
Message-ID: <CAM8wRFF7upw=Ax7MKSHweieQfLpYsBu8RuRfPrK8g7P0QP3mVg@mail.gmail.com>

Can anyone ID this coil?
It was on a
 Healey BN2.
Primary is 4 ohms.
Primary contacts are in the bottom.
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun Nov  8 10:20:45 2020
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 11:20:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] We just did a run of these. Anybody need one or two?
Message-ID: <67F4BAF7-94AD-4537-9321-67BAEF288FBD@gmail.com>

We also have the tooling design for a cold air intake, but it?s not in production yet. Eligible for Group 8 in SVRA Rick Parent tells me. It will match the other headlamp replacement. But will have a shape like the Kastner Designed Velocity Stacks.    

(I will install the decal for you. There?s a simple trick to it).

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4505 Donald Dr
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The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  9 07:46:42 2020
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:46:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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 Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures me a bit.

Regards.
Jack

    On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hi, all.

 ?

My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.

 ?

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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Nov  9 07:50:07 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 09:50:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
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I use Heacock and have for years. They are owned by a larger company too.  Only had one claim, which they honored with zero issues.

On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.

Regards.

Jack

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Hi, all.

 
My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.

 
Thanks!

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From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com  Mon Nov  9 07:53:19 2020
From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:53:19 +0000
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <218257370.3669680.1604933202849@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>,
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FYI.

It is normal for one insurance carrier to sell their client list to another given the situation below.

Also, I rep two (2) different classic insurance carriers, and Haggerty is the better of the two.

Just my own personal observation.

Larry Ross
Agency Owner

Lawrence Ross Agency
67 Old Clairton Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA. 15236
(412) 655-9990 - office
(412) 780-8495 - cell

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To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
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Subject: [External] Re: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies

Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.

Regards.

Jack

On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:



Hi, all.



My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.



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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 07:57:28 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:57:28 -0600
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
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I had begun with Great American and switched to Heagerty after a couple of
years (I don't recall why but it may have had something to do with their
restrictions on the use of my car.  For the last 15 years or so I've been
using Grundy and now have 5 cars insured by them, including three race cars
(coverage doesn't apply while on track).  At the time I switched to Grundy
their usage restrictions seemed to be the least restricting.  Rates were
competitive and responsiveness is first-class.

Duncan

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from
> Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their
> "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5
> cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you
> have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
>
> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking
> for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold
> the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who
> else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others
> have had good experiences with.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
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From tr4jay at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 08:26:09 2020
From: tr4jay at gmail.com (Jay Galbreath)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:26:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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I always felt that the real test of an Insurance  Company was when you make
a claim. I have done that with Hagerty Insurance Co. They were prompt,
accurate and basically said not to worry about any surprise issues in the
repair process. So yes I do recommend. I also have heard good things about
J.C. Taylor.   Jay

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wrote:

> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from
> Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their
> "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5
> cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you
> have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
>
> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking
> for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold
> the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who
> else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others
> have had good experiences with.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 08:38:39 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:38:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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I've had Haggerty (5 cars) for a couple of years now, including the off
track (but in paddock) insurance of the race car and trailer. Haggerty is
actively pursuing motorsports participants, they even bought
Motorsportsreg.com, the race registration site (probably to get contact
info from active racers). But they do support racing with all kinds of
motorsports (track days, race tickets, etc) events, both free and
discounted, for subscribers. You'll see them at the track, I think they get
it.

I had one claim and they sent a British car specialist from the regional
office to evaluate a GT6 (road car) of mine after an incident. Very
knowledgeable and fair in the assessment of the work. Quick processing of
the paperwork.

mike h

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:05 AM Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I had begun with Great American and switched to Heagerty after a couple of
> years (I don't recall why but it may have had something to do with their
> restrictions on the use of my car.  For the last 15 years or so I've been
> using Grundy and now have 5 cars insured by them, including three race cars
> (coverage doesn't apply while on track).  At the time I switched to Grundy
> their usage restrictions seemed to be the least restricting.  Rates were
> competitive and responsiveness is first-class.
>
> Duncan
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from
>> Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their
>> "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5
>> cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you
>> have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>>
>>
>> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking
>> for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold
>> the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who
>> else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others
>> have had good experiences with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Mon Nov  9 08:39:53 2020
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:39:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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Hi Guys, I have 4 cars insured through Hagerty; they have always been 
very good in any dealings with them. One Classic, two antique, and one 
race. A few minor restrictions on the Classic and Antique, but more 
restrictions with the state of PA. No commercial use, no towing unless 
to a vintage car show, etc. Total is around $500 a year. Just put my '87 
Chevy square body pickup on Classic plates and Hagerty insurance. Just 
had the Chevy painted; 59k and my dad bought it new in Nov '86. A keeper!

Very warm in NW PA, but I'll enjoy it while I can.

Cheers, Bill

On 11/9/2020 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote:
> Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters 
> from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't 
> like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went 
> up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the 
> positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures 
> me a bit.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am 
> looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy 
> expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to 
> them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, 
> responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.
>
> Thanks!
>
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  9 08:47:37 2020
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:47:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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 I used Heacock, who placed the coverage with Great American, until I moved to Massachusetts.? Heacock did not seem to be able to deal with the MA required forms, so I went to a local agency who sold Hagerty and have been with them since to cover a street TR4, my race car and my trailer.? I have not had any claims so I can't vouch for how well they do with claims.? Joe B
    On Monday, November 9, 2020, 10:02:51 AM EST, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I use Heacock and have for years. They are owned by a larger company too. ?Only had one claim, which they honored with zero issues.

On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures me a bit.

Regards.
Jack

    On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hi, all.
 ?

My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.
 ?

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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 08:51:38 2020
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:51:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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I had JC Taylor for years (no claims).  I went with them  after USAA was painful on a claim for my Triumph (was in the shop {Mot?rhead} & on mechanic?s test drive a lady in a minivan backed into it).  USAA eventually covered 80% of repairs.
I have race car, race trailer & TR250 w/ Hagerty now.  USAA still covers the rest of the fleet, they are great on newer vehicles.

Terry

> On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:42, Jay Galbreath via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I always felt that the real test of an Insurance  Company was when you make a claim. I have done that with Hagerty Insurance Co. They were prompt, accurate and basically said not to worry about any surprise issues in the repair process. So yes I do recommend. I also have heard good things about J.C. Taylor.   Jay
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 9:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
>> Jack
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, all.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
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>> 
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From igofaster at att.net  Mon Nov  9 09:24:45 2020
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:24:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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 I've used Haggerty for years..have the 2 race cars, my street TR6, and I've used them for a couple of Miatas and even my 2005 Lotus Elise before I sold it. I had the declare the Elise wasn't to be tracked... it wasn't.as far as insurance in general, do yourself a favor and use a service like compare.com just to , well , compare... when I did I switched to Elephant and saved 100's of dollars...then did the same with our home... I have no loyalty to an insurance company.. my daughter was in the Navy and was using USAAA or whatever they sell to military...she to switched to another company... I check nearly every year...
Bobby Whitehead.... multiple, MULTIPLE, cars, trailers, boats, etc

    On Monday, November 9, 2020, 10:14:35 AM CST, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I had JC Taylor for years (no claims). ?I went with them ?after USAA was painful on a claim for my Triumph (was in the shop {Mot?rhead} & on mechanic?s test drive a lady in a minivan backed into it). ?USAA eventually covered 80% of repairs.I have race car, race trailer & TR250 w/ Hagerty now. ?USAA still covers the rest of the fleet, they are great on newer vehicles.
Terry

On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:42, Jay Galbreath via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



?I always felt that the real test of an Insurance? Company was when you make a claim. I have done that with Hagerty Insurance?Co. They were prompt, accurate and basically?said not to worry about any surprise issues in the repair process. So yes I do recommend. I also have heard good things about J.C. Taylor.? ?Jay
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 9:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 Hi Dave.? The same thing happened to me.? I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.? I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).? However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.? That reassures me a bit.

Regards.
Jack

    On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 
Hi, all.

 ?

My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.

 ?

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From tony.sheach at live.co.uk  Mon Nov  9 09:36:15 2020
From: tony.sheach at live.co.uk (Tony Sheach)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:36:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
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Mike

I have a friend at Hagerty if anyone wants to discuss - he is a fellow rally man so whilst he works there you will get straight answers to questions.

I don?t insure with them mainly due to their requirement for night time garaging, which doesn?t suit me when we are away on road events, but otherwise my assessment was that their cover is good and their intent honourable in the event of a claim (and I know of plenty supporting evidence).

All the best and stay safe.

Tony

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Nov 2020, at 15:57, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
I've had Haggerty (5 cars) for a couple of years now, including the off track (but in paddock) insurance of the race car and trailer. Haggerty is actively pursuing motorsports participants, they even bought Motorsportsreg.com, the race registration site (probably to get contact info from active racers). But they do support racing with all kinds of motorsports (track days, race tickets, etc) events, both free and discounted, for subscribers. You'll see them at the track, I think they get it.

I had one claim and they sent a British car specialist from the regional office to evaluate a GT6 (road car) of mine after an incident. Very knowledgeable and fair in the assessment of the work. Quick processing of the paperwork.

mike h

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:05 AM Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I had begun with Great American and switched to Heagerty after a couple of years (I don't recall why but it may have had something to do with their restrictions on the use of my car.  For the last 15 years or so I've been using Grundy and now have 5 cars insured by them, including three race cars (coverage doesn't apply while on track).  At the time I switched to Grundy their usage restrictions seemed to be the least restricting.  Rates were competitive and responsiveness is first-class.

Duncan

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.

Regards.

Jack

On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com<mailto:dave at ranteer.com>> wrote:



Hi, all.



My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.



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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Mon Nov  9 15:13:29 2020
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:13:29 -0600
Subject: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies
In-Reply-To: <2F56A744-03F9-46FE-ABAC-EC29C8DCC5C9@me.com>
References: <000c01d6b622$504ff910$f0efeb30$@ranteer.com>
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Message-ID: <76E0AAD8ABE0470D853769AF389E9A7E@Rocky>

I?ve had Heacock for years also. $250 a year covers my race car (HP Spitfire) and trailer (open flatbed). It?s off-track coverage. Never had a claim.

Used to have K&K, got pissed off that they required a complete re-application every year as if it was a new policy. Heacock just bills the renewal. One time they called, ?Do you have a trailer, we?ll cover that too, no extra charge.? I?ve actually about doubled the stated value of the car with no increase in premium (as in, the base premium covered that much, why not?).

What I see of Hagerty I like. If I was shopping a new coverage, I?d likely start there. But I?m very  happy with Heacock.

--Rocky Entriken

From: Scott Janzen via Fot 
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 8:50 AM
To: Jack Wheeler 
Cc: dave ; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph 
Subject: Re: [Fot] [Mgs] insurance companies

I use Heacock and have for years. They are owned by a larger company too.  Only had one claim, which they honored with zero issues.


On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Dave.  The same thing happened to me.  I started getting letters from Haggerty before I even heard from my insurance agent.  I didn't like their "grab and go" approach and the premium on my policies went up (I have 5 cars insured).  However, I'm glad to hear all of the positive responses you have gotten to your question.  That reassures me a bit.


Regards.

Jack


On Sunday, November 8, 2020, 6:21:40 PM EST, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote: 


Hi, all.


 
My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).  They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.


 
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Mon Nov  9 16:54:02 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 18:54:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TRS video
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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Tue Nov 10 07:39:07 2020
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 07:39:07 -0700
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
Message-ID: <05d701d6b76f$3f37c240$bda746c0$@hot-tr6.com>

Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I
raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a
perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while
I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I
have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of
my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best
starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set
my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36
where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on
Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group
for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few
cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it
was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my
revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527
which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really
get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but
I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition
the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public
address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran
the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires,
fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36
cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things
interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past
me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on
running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had
an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a
father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could
pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were
side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little
bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20)
of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both
drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between
our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We
crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don't know which of us broke the
electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings
about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me
dragging it's entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris.
I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he
was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the
Endurance seem expensive but I guess that's the price in the big leagues.
The COTA track is awesome and I'm I  can say I have raced there. Overall I
had a great weekend.

I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next
few days. That will be fun.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico



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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 14:10:19 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 15:10:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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Message-ID: <CABFvdWvV8BToM_7WX6xcUJtiPcBKPyd5qwY=tYPzz9xwn7OH2A@mail.gmail.com>

Walt

The attendees really appreciated your rendition of the National Anthem. I
could hear the hand clapping up and down the garages. Great job!

Bob Kramer


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:37 PM Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I
> raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a
> perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT
> while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car
> racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl
> and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that
> the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24
> rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally
> set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three
> practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran
> with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT
> class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by
> the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same
> thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend.
> My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight
> is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving
> deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side.
> On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that
> Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was
> a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo
> with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did
> a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the
> Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my
> mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT,
> Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during
> the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four
> laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were
> side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main
> straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the
> other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of
> us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were
> still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90
> degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche
> went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead
> even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but
> neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the
> feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust
> system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to
> the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also,
> $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive
> but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome
> and I?m I  can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.
>
> I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the
> next few days. That will be fun.
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> Walter Hollowell
>
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 22:01:25 2020
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 21:01:25 -0800
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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Sounds like you had a good time Walt.  Sorry I missed out on that trumpet playing!  Looking forward to the videos.

Chuck

> On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:38 AM, walt at hot-tr6.com wrote:
> 
> ?
> Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome and I?m I  can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.
> I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next few days. That will be fun.
> Walter Hollowell
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Wed Nov 11 10:07:46 2020
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:07:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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So car running at end of event, no contact, family w you,?good times...? ?damn the only thing was being in??gp?8 vs 3 . ?And u got the win and smiles. ?And the Anthem.?
You win overall
Mordy

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 On?Wednesday, November 11, 2020,?Chuck Gee via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Sounds like you had a good time Walt. ?Sorry I missed out on that trumpet playing! ?Looking forward to the videos.

Chuck

On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:38 AM, walt at hot-tr6.com wrote:



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Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome and I?m I? can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.

I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next few days. That will be fun.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico


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From steve at artwithcars.com  Wed Nov 11 15:01:04 2020
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:01:04 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Kastner-Brophy "Candy Box Vitesse" at Willow Springs
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Dear FOT,

Here?s Chuck Gee?s exciting Saturday B-Sedan race in the Vitesse!

Crank up the sound!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC5SxoekqCg&feature=youtu.be <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC5SxoekqCg&feature=youtu.be>

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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu Nov 12 08:24:06 2020
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:24:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] COTA- Race Report
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Definitely a nice job on the trumpet Walt, thanks!
Please see the attached group sheets, Walt's car was not misclassed and ran exactly where it should have in group 8, the rules have been this way for 30+ years. You may have different classes where ever you race which is fine and I just want everyone to know there was no malice involved classing Walt's car. You may have differing opinions about classifications and that's fine but the rules are the rules wherever you race and its always good to know them in advance so you can be mentally prepared once you get to the track.
https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Svra_Group_3_118-2.pdf
https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Svra_Group_8_2_20.pdf


"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!

 

    On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 12:11:12 PM EST, Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 So car running at end of event, no contact, family w you,?good times...? ?damn the only thing was being in??gp?8 vs 3 . ?And u got the win and smiles. ?And the Anthem.?
You win overall
Mordy

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 On?Wednesday, November 11, 2020,?Chuck Gee via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Sounds like you had a good time Walt. ?Sorry I missed out on that trumpet playing! ?Looking forward to the videos.

Chuck

On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:38 AM, walt at hot-tr6.com wrote:



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Just got back from a successful race weekend at Circuit of the Americas. I raced my 1970 TR6 with no mechanical issues whatsoever. The weather was a perfect upper 70s to mid 80s all weekend. SVRA placed me in Group 8 GT while I would have preferred to be in Group 3 where other British car racers I have competed with were. My wife was with me as my umbrella girl and two of my grown children were there to pit crew for me. I found that the best starting tire pressures on my Hoosier TDs were 26 front and 24 rear. I set my 123 ignition at 32 degrees maximum advance while I normally set it at 36 where I live at 5,000 above sea level. I ran all three practice sessions on Thursday the 6th to learn the track. Friday I ran with 41 cars in my group for the two practice races. Within my Group 8 GT class there were only a few cars which some broke and one crashed out so by the Saturday feature race it was just me so I won my class by default. Same thing on Sunday. I kept my revs down to 6K so I would survive the weekend. My best lap time was 2.527 which is respectable for me. The long straight is impressive and you really get going a fast top speed. I kept driving deeper into the braking zone but I was probably on the conservative side. On Sunday I performed a rendition the National Anthem on my trumpet that Chris Botti gave me over the public address system for the crowd and it was a big hit. Sunday afternoon I ran the one hour long Endurance race solo with one pit stop to check tires, fluids and add fuel. My two children did a great job of the pit stop. 36 cars of all Groups and classes ran the Endurance race which made things interesting while I was watching my mirrors for superfast cars to blast past me such as me such as a Ford GT, Lolas, Vipers and Cobras. I had planned on running modest lap times during the Enduro but the red mist hit me and I had an awesome dice the last four laps with a very fast Porsche 356 driven by a father/daughter team. We were side by side through the esses and I could pull a little ahead on the main straight away but on the sweepers we were side by side waiting for the other driver to miss a shift or get a little bit loose but neither one of us slipped up. Going into the last corner (#20) of the last lap we were still side by side with me on the inside. We both drifted through the 90 degree left hander with less then 4 inches between our cars and the Porsche went pretty wide over the second white line. We crossed the finish so dead even I honestly don?t know which of us broke the electronic beam first but neither one of us cared. I have mixed feelings about SVRA. During the feature race on Saturday a BMW 2002 passed me dragging it?s entire exhaust system which was kicking up sparks and debris. I kept pointing it out to the corner marshals for the last two laps but he was never flagged. Also, $550 for the practice day and another $550 for the Endurance seem expensive but I guess that?s the price in the big leagues. The COTA track is awesome and I?m I? can say I have raced there. Overall I had a great weekend.

I have lots of pictures and GoPro videos to download and edit over the next few days. That will be fun.

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico


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From steve at artwithcars.com  Fri Nov 13 00:56:11 2020
From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 23:56:11 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3 race video from Willow Springs
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Friends,
Hope you enjoy my race video from the VARA Saturday flag race at Willow Springs. 
It was in the 40?s, 25mph winds with rain here and there.  I finished 1st in class and 3rd overall. The caution flags and lap traffic didn?t really work in my favor.  It was the first outing for my fresh engine build. 

https://youtu.be/IPD4kq0ayG8


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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 10:07:20 2020
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:07:20 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3 race video from Willow Springs
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Very cool Steve!  Thanks for sharing.

Chuck

> On Nov 12, 2020, at 11:56 PM, Steven Belfer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Friends,
> Hope you enjoy my race video from the VARA Saturday flag race at Willow Springs. 
> It was in the 40?s, 25mph winds with rain here and there.  I finished 1st in class and 3rd overall. The caution flags and lap traffic didn?t really work in my favor.  It was the first outing for my fresh engine build. 
> 
> https://youtu.be/IPD4kq0ayG8
> 
> 
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From billdentin at aol.com  Fri Nov 13 11:55:49 2020
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:55:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 race video from Willow Springs
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VERY, Very nice...
Bill

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Friends,Hope you enjoy my race video from the VARA Saturday flag race at Willow Springs.?It was in the 40?s, 25mph winds with rain here and there. ?I finished 1st in class and 3rd overall. The caution flags and lap traffic didn?t really work in my favor. ?It was the first outing for my fresh engine build.?
https://youtu.be/IPD4kq0ayG8

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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 13 12:47:57 2020
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:47:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Trailer delivery source
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB45148CA6FE6CB8E1427F77ECBAE60@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Any suggestions on a company or person that would deliver a 48' gooseneck trailer from Northern Ohio to Fresno California?

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From rick.parent at att.net  Sat Nov 14 18:13:26 2020
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:13:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup, I'll try it on a race motor next.




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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 18:32:14 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:32:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Synchronous or progressive carb?
Duncan

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of
> timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup,
> I'll try it on a race motor next.
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
>
>
> "*Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of
> consequences*"
> Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!
>
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From rick.parent at att.net  Sat Nov 14 18:34:54 2020
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:34:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Progressive.
Did the PDF files come through for the Graph and Report? I can't tell.

"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!

 

    On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 08:32:56 PM EST, Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Synchronous or progressive carb?Duncan
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup, I'll try it on a race motor next.




"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sat Nov 14 18:42:47 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:42:47 -0800
Subject: [Fot] 1500 street motor
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Yes.  Good stuff.  Thanks for sharing.
Dave H.

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Progressive.
> 
> Did the PDF files come through for the Graph and Report? I can't tell.
> 
> 
> "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
> Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 08:32:56 PM EST, Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Synchronous or progressive carb?
> Duncan
> 
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Just finished this one up today, runs on pump gas with 22 degrees of timing, didn't expect this. I think I like the carb and manifold setup, I'll try it on a race motor next.
> 
> <20201114_155734_resized.jpg>
> 
> 
> 
> "Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences"
> Ha, ask me how many times this one has cost me time, money and pride!
> 
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Mon Nov 16 17:52:46 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:52:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
Message-ID: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>

I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. 

Questions:
If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? 
If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.

Thanks. looking for feedback.

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From afterapex at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 19:06:36 2020
From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:06:36 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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References: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>
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I have not used that model, but have used this one and like it (needed plywood runners to raise tires enough to clear with my Morgan:  https://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/mid-rise-scissor-lifts/md-6xp/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzoPDzb6I7QIVfz6tBh0bfgu5EAQYASABEgKlivD_BwE <https://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/mid-rise-scissor-lifts/md-6xp/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzoPDzb6I7QIVfz6tBh0bfgu5EAQYASABEgKlivD_BwE>
Advantage with this one over what I see with the quick jack is the max lift height is higher.  

BTW, Home Depot has a lower price (as far as I could see) than Costco: https://www.homedepot.com/p/QUICKJACK-BL-5000SLX-5-000-lbs-Capacity-Portable-Car-Lift-BL-5000SLX-AC-110v/307393222?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA-71700000034127221-58700003933021543-92700031755124763&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_770jr6I7QIVoD6tBh07XAyPEAQYASABEgLe0_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds <https://www.homedepot.com/p/QUICKJACK-BL-5000SLX-5-000-lbs-Capacity-Portable-Car-Lift-BL-5000SLX-AC-110v/307393222?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_31_GARAGE_AUTOMOTIVE-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-GarageAutomotive_PLA-71700000034127221-58700003933021543-92700031755124763&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_770jr6I7QIVoD6tBh07XAyPEAQYASABEgLe0_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds>

Thanks for starting this thread, I am looking for details on a another portable lift to use in a small garage with poor clearance.

Greg in Oakland
1958 Morgan +4

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>  
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.
>  
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>  
> JVV
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 16 19:48:40 2020
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 02:48:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
In-Reply-To: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>
References: <AAEC52E88F394E3CA2091A5BCD70EE39@VlackTK121647>
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 I bought a used 3500# QJ.? I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.? It fits between the tires with a few inches clearance.? The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter than the Miata.? I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I have stored one jack under there.? Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500# one?? If so, that may be an issue for you.
It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.? The wheels at one end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple of them.? When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the center underside of the car from the front or back.? Can't just scoot under the side.?
The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.? I bought some extra rubber blocks that fit around the pinch welds.? These same rubber blocks can also be used under the TR frame.??
I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or access to power at the track.
Joe B
    On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. ?Questions:If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.?Thanks. looking for feedback.?JVV_______________________________________________
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 20:58:33 2020
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:58:33 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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I don?t really see the utility. The lift height means you?re still crawling around under the car and you can?t get in from the side?only the ends. You could just jack the car up and use home-made dollies for a fraction of the cost and be able to slide under from sides as well as front and back. I have three of them I made for probably about $200 each. I also have a two post lift, and I?d say a light two post will probably fit in your garage?some are just 8 feet high. You can install them to be easily removable. I?ve seen lifts mounted on rollers. Not that big of a price difference. 

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I bought a used 3500# QJ.  I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.  It fits between the tires with a few inches clearance.  The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter than the Miata.  I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I have stored one jack under there.  Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500# one?  If so, that may be an issue for you.
> 
> It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.  The wheels at one end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple of them.  When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
> 
> One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the center underside of the car from the front or back.  Can't just scoot under the side. 
> 
> The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.  I bought some extra rubber blocks that fit around the pinch welds.  These same rubber blocks can also be used under the TR frame.  
> 
> I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or access to power at the track.
> 
> Joe B
> 
> On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>  
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.
>  
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>  
> JVV
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 06:36:38 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:36:38 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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You didn't mention what your space limitation was, so this may not apply.
My workshop is big enough to accommodate a 2 or 4-post lift but I knew that
I'd constantly find a post to be in the way due to the way the garage is
laid out.  I opted for a 6000-lb capacity single post lift similar to the
one in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV_VgG_KDZg

Some low cars may have to be driven up onto 2X6 planks for the arms to slip
under but once the wheels are off the ground I can maneuver the entire rig
into a corner where it's not in the way.  I can park beneath it if I want
to build spacers but have never done this.

Duncan




On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:55 PM Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so
> instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000
> pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good
> price on the 5000# unit.
>
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>
> JVV
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From ponobill at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 11:35:50 2020
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:35:50 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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I found a lousy picture of a different version of the racks i made with the Ambro in it?this one has two wheels per side for the base. I guess I ran out of wheels. you can?t see much, but it might help





> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don?t really see the utility. The lift height means you?re still crawling around under the car and you can?t get in from the side?only the ends. You could just jack the car up and use home-made dollies for a fraction of the cost and be able to slide under from sides as well as front and back. I have three of them I made for probably about $200 each. I also have a two post lift, and I?d say a light two post will probably fit in your garage?some are just 8 feet high. You can install them to be easily removable. I?ve seen lifts mounted on rollers. Not that big of a price difference. 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a used 3500# QJ.  I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.  It fits between the tires with a few inches clearance.  The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter than the Miata.  I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I have stored one jack under there.  Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500# one?  If so, that may be an issue for you.
>> 
>> It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.  The wheels at one end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple of them.  When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
>> 
>> One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the center underside of the car from the front or back.  Can't just scoot under the side. 
>> 
>> The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.  I bought some extra rubber blocks that fit around the pinch welds.  These same rubber blocks can also be used under the TR frame.  
>> 
>> I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or access to power at the track.
>> 
>> Joe B
>> 
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>>  
>> Questions:
>> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
>> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
>> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
>> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.
>>  
>> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>>  
>> JVV
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 12:38:29 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 13:38:29 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Quick Jacks
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Spacious shop but it seems that you managed to fill it up!

Bob Kramer


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:36 PM Bill Babcock via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I found a lousy picture of a different version of the racks i made with
> the Ambro in it?this one has two wheels per side for the base. I guess I
> ran out of wheels. you can?t see much, but it might help
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Ponostyle <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don?t really see the utility. The lift height means you?re still
> crawling around under the car and you can?t get in from the side?only the
> ends. You could just jack the car up and use home-made dollies for a
> fraction of the cost and be able to slide under from sides as well as front
> and back. I have three of them I made for probably about $200 each. I also
> have a two post lift, and I?d say a light two post will probably fit in
> your garage?some are just 8 feet high. You can install them to be easily
> removable. I?ve seen lifts mounted on rollers. Not that big of a price
> difference.
>
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> I bought a used 3500# QJ.  I have not tried it with my TR3, but use it all
> the time with my FP Miata, which is quite low.  It fits between the tires
> with a few inches clearance.  The TR4 wheelbase is about an inch shorter
> than the Miata.  I know that it fits between the tires on my TR4, since I
> have stored one jack under there.  Is the 5000# QJ longer than the 3500#
> one?  If so, that may be an issue for you.
>
> It works out very well, but I have had one minor issue.  The wheels at one
> end of each jack unit are hard plastic and I have already broken a couple
> of them.  When I get a chance, I will make some out of aluminum or steel.
>
> One other inconvenience is that when lifted, you can only access the
> center underside of the car from the front or back.  Can't just scoot under
> the side.
>
> The Miata gets lifted from the pinch welds.  I bought some extra rubber
> blocks that fit around the pinch welds.  These same rubber blocks can also
> be used under the TR frame.
>
> I have seen QJs used in the paddock, so one advantage is that it is
> portable enough to take to the track, provided that you have a generator or
> access to power at the track.
>
> Joe B
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:55:26 PM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so
> instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000
> pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A.
>
> Questions:
> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have?
> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?
> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.
> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good
> price on the 5000# unit.
>
> Thanks. looking for feedback.
>
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Tue Nov 17 14:42:27 2020
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:42:27 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Lifts
References: <FB228969-4AC1-4ACE-864B-11F09E81510A.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FB228969-4AC1-4ACE-864B-11F09E81510A@aol.com>

Jerry,

I?m a Costco sucker! 3-4 years ago they sold MaxJax at a never again seen price. This is a portable 2 post lift that you bolt to the floor but can unbolt and tuck away. The posts don?t stand more than 7? when in highest position. I installed and never removed because there?s always a car up in it.! Then a year ago Costco starting selling the BL5000SLX Quick Jacks. Thinking I could use this for ?quick jacking? I bought it when they knocked an extra $100 off. Problem is I can?t use it with either my GT6 or TR4IRS race car ?cuz you can?t fit the lifters between tires unless you use a floor jack to lift one end and remove tires. Kinda defeats the purpose! It works with my street cars great!

I think I looked at the 3500 version on the mfrs website and thought it was smaller and might work with LBCs, but I couldn?t get the Costco pricing. If anything, consider the MaxJax with all the benefits of a 2 post lift.

Just my opinion...

John Frymark

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From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 17 15:30:21 2020
From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 22:30:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Front crankshaft extension
References: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all!?I'm working on my wife's TR6 race car and it has an electric fan, but still has the iron extension that the stock fan bolts to. Is there any reason to leave this in place? Since I know these crankshafts have some wonky (to say the least) harmonics, I wasn't sure if I should remove it.
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From chip at theukmotorsports.com  Tue Nov 17 16:04:00 2020
From: chip at theukmotorsports.com (Chip Collingwood)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:04:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Front crankshaft extension
In-Reply-To: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABEZ9eGhbP6sbxLoqRkpUDWgPdbHun8Fji57D3KQy9+ce9EbqA@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.pattonmachine.com/Fan-Eliminator-Kit.htm

Chip Collingwood
theukmotorsports.com
(804) 564-1839


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 5:32 PM Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello all!
> I'm working on my wife's TR6 race car and it has an electric fan, but
> still has the iron extension that the stock fan bolts to. Is there any
> reason to leave this in place? Since I know these crankshafts have some
> wonky (to say the least) harmonics, I wasn't sure if I should remove it.
>
> Thanks much,
> Jake Jacobsen
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 17 17:58:02 2020
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:58:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Front crankshaft extension
In-Reply-To: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1673410891.3802853.1605652221237@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <548035016.3810994.1605661082946@mail.yahoo.com>

 Plus one for the Patton Machine piece. Goodparts has it too.
Been running them for years, no problems.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 5:31:54 PM EST, Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hello all!?I'm working on my wife's TR6 race car and it has an electric fan, but still has the iron extension that the stock fan bolts to. Is there any reason to leave this in place? Since I know these crankshafts have some wonky (to say the least) harmonics, I wasn't sure if I should remove it.
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From greenman62 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 18 16:39:15 2020
From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (Greg Petrolati)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 23:39:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
Message-ID: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

Greg Petrolati

Sent from my iPhone

From dmar823 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 18 17:16:47 2020
From: dmar823 at gmail.com (Don Marshall)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CALsVEtCTX87F9Fz0SmFx19A2h9ybwk3D659_edYOh2ecCf3ETw@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know about 1/24, but AirFix had one in 1/32.


On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 6:39 PM Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think
> it was an AMT.
>
> Can anyone confirm?
>
> Greg Petrolati
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 18 17:21:00 2020
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (yellow-green)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:21:00 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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Airfix made one at 1/32 scale.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy A11, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 11/18/20  5:41 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom... I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. Can anyone confirm?Greg PetrolatiSent from my iPhone_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Wed Nov 18 17:46:54 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 00:46:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
In-Reply-To: <CALsVEtCTX87F9Fz0SmFx19A2h9ybwk3D659_edYOh2ecCf3ETw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <2138516185.33448.1605746814379@mail.yahoo.com>

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-REVELL-1254-100-TRIUMPH-TR-4-MODEL-KIT/283594379716?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3D96ceec5d474d440eb8aa55c3b9c8ba02%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D274578889852%26itm%3D283594379716%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DDefaultOrganic%26brand%3DRevell&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109
Here's one presently on Ebay made by Revell.
 
 
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Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2020 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

I don't know about 1/24, but AirFix had one in 1/32.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 6:39 PM Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

Greg Petrolati

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From kkjjk at aol.com  Wed Nov 18 17:53:03 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 00:53:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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References: <MWHPR17MB1168C3B3728159094532B50FD2E10@MWHPR17MB1168.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
 <20201119002212.416EBA0675@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <211185304.34422.1605747184376@mail.yahoo.com>

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/AIRFIX-Triumph-TR4A-model-kit-1-32-UNBUILT-NEW-in-BOX-RARE-Plastic-Car-Model/124287406615?hash=item1cf01b5217:g:PkoAAOSwGpxfK3l3
And here's an Airfix NOS on Ebay as well.
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

Airfix made one at 1/32 scale.


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy A11, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------From: Greg Petrolati via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 11/18/20 5:41 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom... 
I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

Greg Petrolati

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed Nov 18 19:25:55 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:25:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 diff cover to TR3 fitment
Message-ID: <662534435.10603.1605752755932@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello Friends,
Has anyone ever tried to install a TR6 differential cover on a TR3?  Pre-60,000 VIN, early floor.  It looks too deep and clearance to the floor is close.   Of course the mounting ears would have to be removed.  
Thanks,
Dave H.
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Nov 19 03:54:18 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 05:54:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Wheel Bearings (Front)
Message-ID: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>

Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too.
Thanks; asking for a friend.
JVV
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 19 04:08:17 2020
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 11:08:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Wheel Bearings (Front)
In-Reply-To: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>
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Hi Jerry,Below is my snapshot for my last order of Stock triumph bearings for a TR4. ? However, the bearing seal was incorrect- I tried to get too fancy and this was not the felt seal as desired. ? So one of the part numbers below is bogus, that is the part number for a seal.?
I hope that helps. ? These were ordered from Rock?Auto.
Thanks,Dave Gott

|
| 
 |
| 
| TIMKEN | 03162 | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 07100S | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 07210X | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 03062 | (2) |
| TIMKEN | 480991 | (2) |

 |  | 296263970331740

You should receive by Friday, February 16, 2018
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|




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Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too.Thanks; asking for a friend.JVV_______________________________________________
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 05:35:08 2020
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:35:08 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 diff cover to TR3 fitment
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Dave,   I've never tried to fit to a TR3, bit a TR4A, maybe TR250 diff
cover has bolt on mounting ears.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello Friends,
> Has anyone ever tried to install a TR6 differential cover on a TR3?
> Pre-60,000 VIN, early floor.  It looks too deep and clearance to the floor
> is close.   Of course the mounting ears would have to be removed.
> Thanks,
> Dave H.
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From walt at hot-tr6.com  Thu Nov 19 06:59:35 2020
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (walt at hot-tr6.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FW: short video. Walt at COTA
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From: walt at hot-tr6.com

 

Very short video at COTA but if you look closely you can see my blue TR6 during a race.

Walter Hollowell

 


 

 

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Near the end of the video!

 


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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Nov 19 07:49:55 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:49:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front)
In-Reply-To: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647>
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Thanks everyone as always very helpful.
JVV

From: Jerry Van Vlack 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:54 AM
To: FOT ; triumphs at autox.team.net 
Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front)

Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too.
Thanks; asking for a friend.
JVV


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From vangoughv at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 19 08:08:20 2020
From: vangoughv at hotmail.com (Vangoughv)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 10:08:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for someone to refresh a GT6 Transmission
Message-ID: <FR1P15201MB243835FCDADAE35636606331B2E00@FR1P15201MB2438.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I?m looking for someone that is well experienced in rebuilding gearboxes. I removed the working gearbox from my street GT6 due to clutch wear and when inspecting the main gearbox found it is in great need of a rebuild even though it was still shifting well When removed.  

Please contact me off line if you can recommend anyone reasonably close to me.  I?m in central Ontario.  My long time go to at the British shop here has retired and a transmission is about the only thing I?d prefer not to tackle myself. 

Thanks in advance. 

Vince
PS - I?m not apposed to dealing someone in a US State close to Ontario.  

From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Nov 19 08:52:34 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 07:52:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 diff cover to TR3 fitment
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Yes. I know of the earlier two part cover. I just happen to have one from a TR6 and thought I'd ask the group experience.
Thanks,
DH

>     On 11/19/2020 4:35 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>      
>      
>     Dave,   I've never tried to fit to a TR3, bit a TR4A, maybe TR250 diff cover has bolt on mounting ears. 
> 
>     Bob Kramer
> 
>     On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM DAVE HOGYE via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
>         > >         Hello Friends,
> >         Has anyone ever tried to install a TR6 differential cover on a TR3?  Pre-60,000 VIN, early floor.  It looks too deep and clearance to the floor is close.   Of course the mounting ears would have to be removed.  
> >         Thanks,
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Thu Nov 19 18:06:21 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 01:06:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] GT6 race car
References: <840435773.120322.1605834381913.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi, all-? There is a 1967 Mark I (with a Mark II bonnet) GT6 race car on BAT.? I know that car was driven by one of the Dolan boys at the Kastner Cup at Mid Ohio in June.? It says the owner is listed in Nashville TN.? Is that your car, Jim (Dolan)??? -- Jay De Pol
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From robertten1 at aol.com  Thu Nov 19 20:01:39 2020
From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 03:01:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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I have a kit in 1/32 scale made by MPC.

Bob T'64 Spit GT autocrosser
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I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I think it was an AMT. 

Can anyone confirm?

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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Fri Nov 20 01:32:59 2020
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 08:32:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...
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https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS809US810&sxsrf=ALeKk00QFOEKnRl4wutP0N7c-XRq7ylkow%3A1605861073960&ei=0X63X9yHOs7R5gLAi6LgDQ&q=triumph+tr4+model+kit&oq=amt+tr4+model&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHMgQIABBHUABYAGDOqwJoAHACeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQCqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAEIwAEB&sclient=psy-ab

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

 I have a kit in 1/32 scale made by MPC.

 Bob T '64 Spit GT autocrosser
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Greg Petrolati via Fot 
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 Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2020 6:39 pm
 Subject: [Fot] Tapping the collected wisdom...

 I seem to remember a 1/24 scale model of a TR4, back in the day. I
think it was an AMT. 

  Can anyone confirm?

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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 20 07:48:03 2020
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 06:48:03 -0800
Subject: [Fot] FW: short video. Walt at COTA
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Nice cameo!

Chuck

> On Nov 19, 2020, at 6:01 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
>  
>  
> From: walt at hot-tr6.com
>  
> Very short video at COTA but if you look closely you can see my blue TR6 during a race.
> Walter Hollowell
>  
> 
>  
>  
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3351240338278185&id=100001767543699&sfnsn=mo 
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> Near the end of the video!
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Nov 20 10:21:05 2020
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 17:21:05 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Not in the Kastner prep manuals
Message-ID: <CY4PR16MB15120B137A7878FDE9717B1A90FF0@CY4PR16MB1512.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

I bought a TR3 so I could get this sweet Carter carburetor set up!  Can't wait to get it on the dyno!

Henrry Morrison, Salt Lake City.

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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 20 11:25:17 2020
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 11:25:17 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Not in the Kastner prep manuals
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Hey Henry,
Is that engine I built for Rob so hot that you need to de-tune it?
I?m curious on dyno results too - shouldn?t cost more than 10hp or so?!
Cheers,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM


> On Nov 20, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I bought a TR3 so I could get this sweet Carter carburetor set up!  Can't wait to get it on the dyno!
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From markhaynestile at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 08:07:51 2020
From: markhaynestile at gmail.com (Mark Haynes)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:07:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
Message-ID: <CAPvTz9xP6ek_ThtEfKrszDxvjjqCippnbaK9FhiVs03yZJvNTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looking to replace this left steering  arm.  Can't seem to find one in the
usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.  Found
them for later models, but not this one.
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Sat Nov 21 08:27:13 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:27:13 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
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Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176
Lots of used stuff.
JVV

From: Mark Haynes via Fot 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net 
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1

Looking to replace this left steering  arm.  Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.  Found them for later models, but not this one.  
Thanks Mark 


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From quikrx at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 21 09:27:58 2020
From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:27:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
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 if you fall short of what you need let me know, might have buried in the garage, know I parted a few MkI's years back
Ralph
    On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 09:28:11 AM CST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176Lots of used stuff.JVV?From: Mark Haynes via Fot Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AMTo: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1?Looking to replace this left steering? arm.? Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.? Found them for later models, but not this one.? Thanks Mark 

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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Sat Nov 21 09:50:42 2020
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:50:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
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I just called Scott about some parts.? He was very fast at getting me what I
needed, as usual.?

John
?



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Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176

Lots of used stuff.

JVV



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From: Mark Haynes via Fot

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AM

To: fot at autox.team.net

Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1



?



Looking to replace this left steering? arm.? Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.? Found them for later models, but not this one.?
Thanks Mark


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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Nov 21 10:38:35 2020
From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 10:38:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Fot] Spit 4 M1
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I might have one since I parted out an early Mk1 a few years ago. If you can send me a photo and/or part number that is on the unit, I will have a look in my parts stash.

Joe


> On November 21, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>     Scott Harper Team Triumph Warren OH 330-392-7176
>     Lots of used stuff.
>     JVV
>      
>     From: Mark Haynes via Fot
>     Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:07 AM
>     To: fot at autox.team.net
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>      
>     Looking to replace this left steering  arm.  Can't seem to find one in the usual places. Anyone have any ideas. It's from a 63 Spitfire Mark1.  Found them for later models, but not this one. 
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Sat Nov 21 11:42:45 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:42:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Advance BTDC for 1296 Spit?
Message-ID: <9024D522-72B2-44FF-A89E-65876CBD12F7@comcast.net>

Listerati,

I?m curious what total advance you Spifire racers are using @3000-4000 RPM and up? 

I had someone in New Mexico swear that he runs 48 degrees @4000 RPM and backs down by 2 degrees until it doesn?t knock on WOT. I?m not sure I?m brave enough to run that much advance.

What say you list? What total advance are you running at what RPM. And what compression ratio?

I?m running 36 degrees total advance @ 3000 RPM for a 12.52 compression engine and that?s worked pretty good so far. But I?m always looking to get out of the corners faster yet pull hard in the straights sooo????

Thanks
Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)



From ofracer at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 13:41:12 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:41:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Advance BTDC for 1296 Spit?
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Bud, I'm running 34 degrees from 3500 up and could probably go more. I used
to run 36 with an older, lower compression engine, but that was with a
pertronix set up. Currently using a points system from Jeff at Advanced set
up (19 degrees mechanical advance up to 3500) for this cam (APT-BK74) and
compression ~ 13.2.  No knocking, no overheating, could probably go some
more still tweaking the fuel system.

mike h

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:46 PM Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Listerati,
>
> I?m curious what total advance you Spifire racers are using @3000-4000 RPM
> and up?
>
> I had someone in New Mexico swear that he runs 48 degrees @4000 RPM and
> backs down by 2 degrees until it doesn?t knock on WOT. I?m not sure I?m
> brave enough to run that much advance.
>
> What say you list? What total advance are you running at what RPM. And
> what compression ratio?
>
> I?m running 36 degrees total advance @ 3000 RPM for a 12.52 compression
> engine and that?s worked pretty good so far. But I?m always looking to get
> out of the corners faster yet pull hard in the straights sooo????
>
> Thanks
> Bud Rolofson
>
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 21 15:10:02 2020
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:10:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Advance BTDC for 1296 Spit?
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Hi Bud,
I can?t speak to a 12.5 1296 but I can speak to tuning for altitude. I do a fair amount of dyno tuning at 5500? here in Albuquerque. Be it a 40hp Formula Vee or a 500hp V8, if the engine was properly timed at sea level I?ll usually end up 4-5 degrees advanced from where it was. I?ll go up 2 degrees per pull until the power goes backwards and then set it for peak power minus maybe one degree for safety sake. The one caveat is to remember to dial it back when going to the lowlands!
Starting at 48(!) degrees and backing down sounds like a recipe for disaster. Must be hell on starters too - if it will even crank over with that much timing.
A chassis dyno is your friend and doesn?t lie.
People seem to think it?s expensive but that?s really not the case - maybe my dyno guy treats me exceptionally well, but I can get two ?base-line? pulls for $40 (and sometimes that?s all I?ll do for the session) and rarely over $150 for extensive tuning (8-10 pulls. 
My $.02 worth,
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
Albuquerque NM

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Listerati,
> 
> I?m curious what total advance you Spifire racers are using @3000-4000 RPM and up? 
> 
> I had someone in New Mexico swear that he runs 48 degrees @4000 RPM and backs down by 2 degrees until it doesn?t knock on WOT. I?m not sure I?m brave enough to run that much advance.
> 
> What say you list? What total advance are you running at what RPM. And what compression ratio?
> 
> I?m running 36 degrees total advance @ 3000 RPM for a 12.52 compression engine and that?s worked pretty good so far. But I?m always looking to get out of the corners faster yet pull hard in the straights sooo????
> 
> Thanks
> Bud Rolofson
> 
> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
> 
> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
> 
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From maddhatt69 at aol.com  Sat Nov 21 17:58:09 2020
From: maddhatt69 at aol.com (Mathieu W. Huovinen)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 00:58:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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Friends! 

I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!


- Hoovie
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Sat Nov 21 18:14:42 2020
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 01:14:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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 Good for you, Hoovie!? I was supposed to be there but my 35th Anniversary won out (I did get a little leverage for next season, however...? I think, anyway.)? Go get em!...
 
 
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To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2020 7:58 pm
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl

Friends! I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
- Hoovie_______________________________________________
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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 19:55:12 2020
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:55:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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Hoovie - Thanks for representing Triumphs & Spitfires!

 My newly rebuilt 1300 engine goes on the dyno again next week at AGSVRC in Savannah and then the ?64 Spit should be ready for VDCA at Roebling next month!

Terry

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 20:06, Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Friends!
> 
> I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
> 
> - Hoovie
> 
> <FB_IMG_1606006524474.jpg>
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 20:33:33 2020
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:33:33 -0800
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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That?s a fine Bill Stoler photo!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hoovie - Thanks for representing Triumphs & Spitfires!
> 
>  My newly rebuilt 1300 engine goes on the dyno again next week at AGSVRC in Savannah and then the ?64 Spit should be ready for VDCA at Roebling next month!
> 
> Terry
> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 20:06, Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Friends!
>> 
>> I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
>> 
>> - Hoovie
>> 
>> <FB_IMG_1606006524474.jpg>
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Nov 22 06:04:20 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 08:04:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] VRG Turkey Bowl
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Keep ?em in your mirrors!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?That?s a fine Bill Stoler photo!
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Hoovie - Thanks for representing Triumphs & Spitfires!
>> 
>>  My newly rebuilt 1300 engine goes on the dyno again next week at AGSVRC in Savannah and then the ?64 Spit should be ready for VDCA at Roebling next month!
>> 
>> Terry
>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 20:06, Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Friends!
>>> 
>>> I'm the only Triumph at the VRG Turkey Bowl. Don't worry, I'm giving the Spridgets and the Alfas a run for their money!
>>> 
>>> - Hoovie
>>> 
>>> <FB_IMG_1606006524474.jpg>
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From bschirano1 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 15:11:49 2020
From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:11:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
Message-ID: <CAG9YvYOBVzzcz4G-KMVCZDRifB=P9mCBYK_UM+gJRdRFXO-nBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Amichi
Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back
up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface
so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket
through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to
pics <https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA>) I've heard of blocks
being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot?
Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have
antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it
travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the
exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and
depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly
inspected and magged.

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or *?* for damper rebuilds?

Thanks Friends
Be Careful out there
Brian

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From rek46 at aol.com  Sun Nov 22 15:32:52 2020
From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 22:32:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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ask him if " pinning it " would help?In a message dated 11/22/2020 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:?
Hey AmichiFigured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection?that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.?Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts?will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.?Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds??Thanks FriendsBe Careful out thereBrian
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From vfracing at aol.com  Sun Nov 22 16:05:13 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:05:13 -0500
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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A while back someone on FOT posted about a threaded insert that is supposed to hold the block together around the crack. Seems like a good idea. We have two blocks with similar cracks ( yes, it is common especially if the head studs are over torqued) and they will get this treatment. Here is a link:

http://castingrepair.locknstitch.com/category/fsb-style-inserts-2

Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:41 PM, rek46 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> ask him if " pinning it " would help
>  
> In a message dated 11/22/2020 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:
>  
> Hey Amichi
> Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.
>  
> Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.
>  
> Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?
>  
> Thanks Friends
> Be Careful out there
> Brian
> 
> -- 
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349
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From tr4 at wi.rr.com  Sun Nov 22 16:34:43 2020
From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (Steve Yott)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:34:43 -0600
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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For the stud hole in the block I have repaired many using the Time-Sert, Big-Sert thread repair system.? Works perfectly and easy to do.. I did not say cheap but easy!Dampers are cheaper to buy new from BPNW than having them rebuilt.SteveSteve Yott
-------- Original message --------From: Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> Date: 11/22/20  4:13 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] cracked block Hey AmichiFigured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection?that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts?will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?Thanks FriendsBe Careful out thereBrian--?Brian Schirano585-305-0349
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Nov 22 18:04:07 2020
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 02:04:07 +0100
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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Hi,

 

most of the TR3/4 blocks are killed by head studs driven in with tools instead by running them down by hand.

If the water jacket of the block is not centered properly the wall between thread and water gets quite thin.

If the stud is ran in with a tool plus the torque of the head nuts this is too much for the cast iron to hold and the block develops cracks at the short bolts.

 

As a repair you can try to bring in a thread sleeve and soldering the block with silver solder.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Brian Schirano via Fot
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. November 2020 23:12
An: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] cracked block

 

Hey Amichi

Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics <https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA> ) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

 

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.

 

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?

 

Thanks Friends

Be Careful out there

Brian




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From sjanzen at me.com  Sun Nov 22 19:12:32 2020
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 21:12:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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Hmm, GT6 blocks are not that rare. Ought to be able to find one for $100-$200. Why mess around with something iffy?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hey Amichi
> Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.
> 
> Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.
> 
> Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?
> 
> Thanks Friends
> Be Careful out there
> Brian
> 
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From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Sun Nov 22 19:39:59 2020
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 02:39:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] cracked block
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I got a complete engine,  in a parts car, supposedly was a runner 5 to 7 years ago. You can have the engine frame body everything for 250.00. Nashville,TN.
If your interested let me know and I'll turn it over to make sure she's still all free to rotate etc.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: 11/22/20 8:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Brian Schirano <bschirano1 at gmail.com>
Cc: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] cracked block

Hmm, GT6 blocks are not that rare. Ought to be able to find one for $100-$200. Why mess around with something iffy?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Hey Amichi
Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics<https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA>) I've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected and magged.

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?

Thanks Friends
Be Careful out there
Brian

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From hankgiffin at cox.net  Mon Nov 23 23:58:43 2020
From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 01:58:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
Message-ID: <014701d6c22f$40aa91a0$c1ffb4e0$@cox.net>

FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.

    Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard
both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from
friends I should be.  

     A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my old
racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great condition.
My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the company who
did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing my suit?

     Thanks, Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 

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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Tue Nov 24 01:19:22 2020
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 02:19:22 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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Re Oil:
I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ... got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps. Never had a problem again! 
He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race car, no. 
But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly. Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t. 
--Rocky
From: Henry Giffin via Fot 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net 
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?

FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.

    Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from friends I should be.  

     A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing my suit?

     Thanks, Hank

 

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

 



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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue Nov 24 04:34:40 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:34:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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Correct: The purpose of the oil is to retard the rise of the piston. Why do that? If you can watch the fuel flow out of the orifice, you?ll see that slowing the piston rise gives a temporary enrichment, similar to the accelerator pump in a fixed- Venturi carburetor. 
This is needed because opening the throttle raises the pressure in the manifold ( remember it is running as a vacuum) and so raising the pressure makes the fuel condense onto the walls of the manifold ( like rain!) and so you temporarily need more of it in the air stream  to compensate.
Unlike street engines, race engines are tuned extra-rich to begin with, so they are less sensitive to this phenomenon. You can get away with no oil in the carbs sometimes. 
I run 10 W (when I can get it) or cheap ATF. Why? I find the engine is more responsive under part throttle conditions such as when I am feathering the throttle in controlled oversteer conditions (I run a welded diff so the throttle is part of my steering mechanism.)
Try it both ways and see how it works in your car at the altitude you run. It?s more about driveability than absolute power.
Phil Gott


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2020, at 3:20 AM, Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Re Oil:
> I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ... got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps. Never had a problem again!
>  
> He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race car, no.
>  
> But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly. Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t.
>  
> --Rocky
>  
> From: Henry Giffin via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
>  
> FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.
>     Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from friends I should be. 
>      A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing my suit?
>      Thanks, Hank
>  
> Hank Giffin
> 757-375-1491
>  
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 04:51:26 2020
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:51:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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I found the opposite response with my CD175 Strombergs.  If the piston
rises too quickly the venturi effect is reduced and adequate fuel is not
drawn through the jet causing a lean mixture.  I use marvel mystery oil.


On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 3:19 AM Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Re Oil:
> I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could
> not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ...
> got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps.
> Never had a problem again!
>
> He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of
> the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It
> was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race
> engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race
> car, no.
>
> But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly.
> Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t.
>
> --Rocky
>
> *From:* Henry Giffin via Fot
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
> *To:* fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
>
>
> FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.
>
>     Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have heard
> both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard from
> friends I should be.
>
>      A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my
> old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great
> condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the
> company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing
> my suit?
>
>      Thanks, Hank
>
>
>
> Hank Giffin
>
> 757-375-1491
>
>
>
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 06:31:25 2020
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:31:25 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
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The piston not only controls velocity by restricting the size of the
opening below; it also controls mixture by raising the tapered needle.
Moving a car to a higher elevation suggests that the engine would be
happier with a leaner mixture to run properly and I can see how removing
the damping effect could improve that.  Would lowering the needle jets have
done the same thing?  How about using a softer spring above the piston to
counter the lower atmospheric pressure?  There's another factor on racing
engines, too, and I'm not sure how to estimate its effects -- a long
duration cam would raise manifold pressure (or reduce manifold vacuum; pick
your nomenclature).

I recall reading a tip in one of Kas' tuning books to remove the pistons
(or the rings from the pistons, I can't recall which).  Since reading that
I've wondered how they tuned the carbs to cope with coming out of slow
corners that required the engine to be in the low end of the rev range,
below the fat part of the torque curve.  Did they run a very rich needle
and jet combination?  Did they strictly use OD gearboxes to keep the revs
up in those situations?

The following may be the opposite case to a naturally aspirated race engine
run at high elevation: I had a supercharged 1275cc Mini (supercharger was
downstream of an SU HIF44 carb) that bogged significantly when the throttle
was snapped open (I'm at 300' elevation).  The PO had been dutifully using
SU brand dashpot oil and that oil appears to have low viscosity, so it's
perhaps 10 weight.  After experimentation I found that 40 weight ND engine
oil really woke up the engine.

Duncan

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:01 AM John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I found the opposite response with my CD175 Strombergs.  If the piston
> rises too quickly the venturi effect is reduced and adequate fuel is not
> drawn through the jet causing a lean mixture.  I use marvel mystery oil.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 3:19 AM Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Re Oil:
>> I once did a race at Woody Creek Raceway, Aspen, CO (8000 feet) and could
>> not get the car to rev over 5000 rpm. A friend diagnosed the problem ...
>> got out his wire cutters and snipped the posts off the rods in the SU caps.
>> Never had a problem again!
>>
>> He about gave me a heart attack when he did it. Thing is, the purpose of
>> the oil in the SUs is to retard the piston going up and down, mostly up. It
>> was explained to me, you don?t WANT to retard the carb piston on a race
>> engine. You hit the gas you want it WOT. RIGHT NOW! Street car, sure. Race
>> car, no.
>>
>> But a tip: Clean the inside of the carb, piston & cylinder, regularly.
>> Before each race. Brakleen. Fuel residue will gum it up if you don?t.
>>
>> --Rocky
>>
>> *From:* Henry Giffin via Fot
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM
>> *To:* fot at autox.team.net ; fot-bounces at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* [Fot] SU oil/refurbishing race suit?
>>
>>
>> FOTs, I have two questions for the knowledgeable ones.
>>
>>     Do you use light oil in your SUs on your racing engines?  I have
>> heard both sides of this.  I have not been using any oil, but have heard
>> from friends I should be.
>>
>>      A number of years ago when my son-in-law started racing we sent my
>> old racing suit to someone to be refurbished.  It came back in great
>> condition.  My current suit could use some work.  We lost the name of the
>> company who did the work.  Can anyone recommend a source for refurbishing
>> my suit?
>>
>>      Thanks, Hank
>>
>>
>>
>> Hank Giffin
>>
>> 757-375-1491
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 13:41:55 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:41:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVaRm76NhVcLse-d7V731+wzH7wwH7GtxRSAdVWv1J5icw@mail.gmail.com>

I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.

I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.

thanks
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed Nov 25 09:34:25 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:34:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.  
Dave H. 


On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

>      
>      
>     I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>      
>     I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>      
>     thanks
>     mike h
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 25 10:01:34 2020
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:01:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Hi Mike,
My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed. ?The jet stands alone on its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.? Also, the throttle shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one side. ?Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings badly. ?I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to drive at anything other than WOT. ? I bet part throttle modulation is difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there.... ?I will try them some day! ?Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs???
Dave Gott


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On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

  I know that Huffaker does this.? I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.? So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.??   Dave H.?   ?   ?   On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
  ?   ?   I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained? (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.  ?   I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.   ?   thanks   mike h   _______________________________________________ 
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Nov 25 10:27:49 2020
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:27:49 +0000
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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David Visard published a book about tuning on the BMC A series engine . There is a lot of test results on modifications to the SU?s .

As a kid   I had a Mini Cooper . I tried many things on the Su?s. One thing I learnt was everything worked well at wide open throttle ....... including removing the bridge completely and secure
Ing cables to the dash pots aka ? Amal GP? ....

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2020, at 9:04 AM, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

? Hi Mike,

My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed.  The jet stands alone on its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.  Also, the throttle shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one side.  Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings badly.  I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to drive at anything other than WOT.   I bet part throttle modulation is difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there....  I will try them some day!  Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs?

Dave Gott


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On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
Dave H.


On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.

I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.

thanks
mike h
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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 10:34:34 2020
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 12:34:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Back in the day we thought we needed the bridge to help mix the incoming
air with the fuel.
Bruce

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:04 PM David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper
> removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed.  The jet stands alone on
> its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.  Also, the throttle
> shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one
> side.  Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings
> badly.  I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to
> drive at anything other than WOT.   I bet part throttle modulation is
> difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there....  I will try them
> some day!  Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs?
>
> Dave Gott
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil
> and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost
> nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what
> the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head
> gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
> Dave H.
>
>
> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
> be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
> sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
> mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>
> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>
> thanks
> mike h
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From vfracing at aol.com  Wed Nov 25 10:44:10 2020
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 12:44:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Still need the bridge!
We had a set of computune carbs with bridge removed on a 948 bug eye. It needed hand choking to start, wouldn?t run worth a darn below 3000 rpm. And if it stalled in the grid, very likely, it needed a vigorous push start.
Post Mortem we learned that on these the float level needs to be set high enough that the fuel literally dribbles out of the jet. That?s apparently the only way to get them to run at most any throttle setting and engine speed other than wide open.
There are a lot of ways to improve these carbs, but removing the bridge isn?t one of them unless you after pure WOT horsepower.
Phil Gott



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> On Nov 25, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Bruce Stutzman via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Back in the day we thought we needed the bridge to help mix the incoming air with the fuel.
> Bruce
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:04 PM David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> My TR4 came with a pair of Computune set up HS6?s that have had the damper removed, and the whole bridge at the jet removed.  The jet stands alone on its own, sticking up the height of the former bridge.  Also, the throttle shafts are Steel, and very thin, only picking up the throttle plate on one side.  Alas, the steel has worn out the aluminum body and needs bushings badly.  I?m sure they flow great, but without the bridge, probably tough to drive at anything other than WOT.   I bet part throttle modulation is difficult, but good dyno numbers are sure to be there....  I will try them some day!  Anyone have experience running the Computune carbs?  
>> 
>> Dave Gott
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 11:34 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.  
>> Dave H. 
>>  
>>  
>>> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>>>  
>>> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>>>  
>>> thanks
>>> mike h
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Wed Nov 25 11:15:18 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:15:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Running/Turn light improvement
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Listerati,

Happy Thanksgiving to all. I?m thankful for family, friends, and surviving (so far) the pandemic. I?m also thankful I have a Triumph or two to complete some little projects I?ve been wanting to get to for a long time. Maybe that?s the silver lining in this whole virus thing, I?m home a lot more and need things to do.

So one of them was to replace the headlights on my TR6 with LEDs. Once done I realized how shabby the running/turn lights and the side marker lights were in comparison so I decided to clean, treat, and improve on them.

First I cleaned everything, the lens with soap and water and the light bucket. Get all the dust (even sealed there was dust) off everything including the 1157 bulb and especially the sparse reflectors behind the bulb. I used a two part headlight restore kit (ArmorAll) to clean the road film off the lens and then seal it with some UV protection.

Then I lined the top and bottom of the light bucket (which comes with no top/bottom reflective surfaces) with some adhesive backed foil tape (3M scotch foil tape 3311) as seen in the photo below to increase the reflective surfaces. The triangles that resulted when I cut the shape needed for the running lights I used in the side marker lights, which also got the cleaning treatment. They fit without even any trimming.

The results were amazing once those light bulbs had more reflective surfaces all around and a clean clear lens.

Next, an alternator for the #3.

Now back to making pumpkin pies.

Regards
Bud Rolofson

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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Wed Nov 25 12:31:02 2020
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:31:02 -0000
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"Refurbishing" a race suit??    Dry cleaning does for me, although a modern
suit can be machine washed.

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From bownes at seiri.com  Wed Nov 25 12:48:45 2020
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 14:48:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Running/Turn light improvement
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Wow. Great idea!

> On Nov 25, 2020, at 13:20, Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Listerati,
> 
> Happy Thanksgiving to all. I?m thankful for family, friends, and surviving (so far) the pandemic. I?m also thankful I have a Triumph or two to complete some little projects I?ve been wanting to get to for a long time. Maybe that?s the silver lining in this whole virus thing, I?m home a lot more and need things to do.
> 
> So one of them was to replace the headlights on my TR6 with LEDs. Once done I realized how shabby the running/turn lights and the side marker lights were in comparison so I decided to clean, treat, and improve on them.
> 
> First I cleaned everything, the lens with soap and water and the light bucket. Get all the dust (even sealed there was dust) off everything including the 1157 bulb and especially the sparse reflectors behind the bulb. I used a two part headlight restore kit (ArmorAll) to clean the road film off the lens and then seal it with some UV protection.
> 
> Then I lined the top and bottom of the light bucket (which comes with no top/bottom reflective surfaces) with some adhesive backed foil tape (3M scotch foil tape 3311) as seen in the photo below to increase the reflective surfaces. The triangles that resulted when I cut the shape needed for the running lights I used in the side marker lights, which also got the cleaning treatment. They fit without even any trimming.
> 
> The results were amazing once those light bulbs had more reflective surfaces all around and a clean clear lens.
> 
> Next, an alternator for the #3.
> 
> Now back to making pumpkin pies.
> 
> Regards
> Bud Rolofson
> 
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> 
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> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
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From paulricco at att.net  Wed Nov 25 13:29:30 2020
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 14:29:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Molecule Labs Nomex Fabric Care System - Pegasus Auto Racing
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We have been very happy with these products.

The system works well and will not damage how the Nomex thread is designed to work when it gets hot.  Additionally, it is worth the part about why it is important to get the flammable oil stains out of the fabric before you are on fire.

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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Wed Nov 25 14:55:55 2020
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:55:55 +1000
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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I have had a few goes at shaving throttle shafts with very mixed
results..typically fracturing where they meet the carby body.  if you
planned to change them routinely, thats not such an issue

Some recent flow bench work leaves me wondering completely about the wisdom
of any of this without real-world testing

We found some head/intake arrangements where the air flow was too high in
certain places and we had to dimple the port to slow it down. Sometimes,
just enlarging the port does not work as intended

The very best SU research ive seen was done by David Vizard . There are
plenty of on-line references to his work, but if anyone can't find what
they want, i can scan relevant parts of his text book (tome) on tuning BMC
A series engines. Ive used his analysis on  various shapes of ram tubes for
many years

of far more importance seems to be the distance from the valve to the
throttle plate, with the ideal varying considerably with the RPM range
being used. As a general comment, it seems like many folk have it far too
long

I have proven that fiddling with the damper in a SU has a dramatic effect
on throttle response, and not always what you think. i'll offer the comment
that its very engine set-up specific. Sadly, this aspect is all-but
impossible to test on a conventional flow bench

Terry
Australia



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wrote:

> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper oil
> and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to almost
> nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know what
> the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head
> gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
> Dave H.
>
>
> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
> be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
> sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
> mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>
> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>
> thanks
> mike h
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 17:59:56 2020
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:59:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU carb smooth bore or leave rough?
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Thanks to everyone for their insights. I think I'll just look for any
obvious rough spots but mostly leave well enough alone.

mike h

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 4:52 PM Enquiries Road & Track <
enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au> wrote:

> I have had a few goes at shaving throttle shafts with very mixed
> results..typically fracturing where they meet the carby body.  if you
> planned to change them routinely, thats not such an issue
>
> Some recent flow bench work leaves me wondering completely about the
> wisdom of any of this without real-world testing
>
> We found some head/intake arrangements where the air flow was too high in
> certain places and we had to dimple the port to slow it down. Sometimes,
> just enlarging the port does not work as intended
>
> The very best SU research ive seen was done by David Vizard . There are
> plenty of on-line references to his work, but if anyone can't find what
> they want, i can scan relevant parts of his text book (tome) on tuning BMC
> A series engines. Ive used his analysis on  various shapes of ram tubes for
> many years
>
> of far more importance seems to be the distance from the valve to the
> throttle plate, with the ideal varying considerably with the RPM range
> being used. As a general comment, it seems like many folk have it far too
> long
>
> I have proven that fiddling with the damper in a SU has a dramatic effect
> on throttle response, and not always what you think. i'll offer the comment
> that its very engine set-up specific. Sadly, this aspect is all-but
> impossible to test on a conventional flow bench
>
> Terry
> Australia
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 2:35 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I know that Huffaker does this.  I believe they also remove the damper
>> oil and or the damper completely and shave down the throttle shaft to
>> almost nothing.  So, I don't think you'd be trashing them, but I don't know
>> what the dyno results are either. As far as I know, they also replace head
>> gaskets and engines quite regularly on their BMC builds.
>> Dave H.
>>
>>
>> On 11/24/2020 12:41 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I was going over my race carbs (SU H4)and wondered if there's anything to
>> be gained  (or lost) by smoothing out the casting (before the jet)? I'm not
>> sure if it's designed (or left) that way to promote turbulence and better
>> mixing as the air flows over the jet or if polishing it down would help.
>>
>> I'd hate to trash a pair of good carbs before I get some answers.
>>
>> thanks
>> mike h
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