[Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...

Mon Mar 23 18:01:34 MDT 2020

Might be best to fund another block. There are plenty of them around.

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> On Mar 23, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> firstly, are you 100% sure the caps are correctly fitted both round the right way and in number order?
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> you need to decide if the caps are misaligned across the block or if the tunnel is simply oval because the hole in in cap is too far up or down. this will need a combination of feel and measurement
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> if the alternative caps have a significant step to 1 side, so you will clearly feel a ledge at the mating faces when they are tightened up
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> if the stap is very minor, like a few thousandths of an inch, then the faces of the cap are machined down to create an oval hole, then it it is align honed
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> if it is really bad, like many tens of thou, then you have to firstly move the cap sideways by machining the register on 1 side and peening it on the other, and effectively moving it sideways, followed by boring/honing
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> sometimes, the bolts are too neat a fit to allow this and if thats the case, its usually easier to find some other caps or make them
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> if the tunnel is simply an oval because the cap is too far up or down, this is usually easily fixed by facing the cap mating surfaces and reboring the tunnels
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> not all engine machine shop have a line borer...mine did not, so subcontracting the job is not uncommon
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> the end result should be a perfectly round hole with a super fine hone (cross-hatch) mark on the bearing faces, to ensure perfect bearing shell contact
> 
>  Terry
> Australia
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>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:32 AM Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Speaking of main caps I bought a block that turned out to not have the original main caps. The caps on there did not match up with the block but I’ve been unable to find a machine shop that can machine them so there’s a round hole for the crank. The shop I had do my last block (and they do 427 race engines among others and are well respected) told me that the result would be ovaled out holes (not round) which obviously is not good.
>> Certainly there’s a way to make this work but I haven’t found it. I checked out another block shop but said they subcontract line-boring to the the shop that said they couldn’t do it. 
>> 
>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? I’ve heard that steel mains might be an answer but they’d still have to be line-bored to make them match. I hate to ship a block to get this done before I have reassurances that they can make it work but does anyone know of that has successfully made main caps match the block? Given I’m spending a lot of time these days staying home and catching up on car projects in the shop I figured it would be a good time to start building the next engine.
>> 
>> Solutions or recommendations?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Bud
>> 
>>  
>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Amici,
>>> 
>>> In typically rookie race engine builder mode with the block I selected for rebuild, I pulled the main bearing caps (with my new fancy DeWalt 20V Impact Wrench) and then couldn't remember which way around they went. 
>>> 
>>> This led to visions of catastrophic failure somewhere down the road. Yet, I had several other blocks I could flip over and make a determination if need be.
>>> 
>>> I was examining one of the caps when I discovered the faintest engraving on the surface of each cap:
>>> 
>>> Eng #2 Front Fwd
>>> Eng #2 Mid Fwd
>>> Eng #2 Rr Fwd
>>> 
>>> Doug Brown, my original owner/builder/driver extraordinaire had engraved each cap for me to make sure a mistake didn't occur. He rotated 3 engines during each season in a quest for Divisional and National Championships.
>>> 
>>> I guess that is the way a aeronautical/mechanical engineer and very successful racer thinks.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again Doug!
>>> 
>>> <IMG_8745.jpg>
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Chino CA
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>>> 
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