From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Jul 1 13:02:04 2020 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:02:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Video Cards to John Linney References: <5B750240-85B1-4BA2-B620-9D2BD52CC8FE.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <5B750240-85B1-4BA2-B620-9D2BD52CC8FE@cs.com> If you planned to send videos to John Linney, please do so very soon. Thank you very much. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From jeffsnook01 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 15:26:02 2020 From: jeffsnook01 at gmail.com (Jeff Snook) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 17:26:02 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results Message-ID: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: Jeff Snook 1:49 Mike Jackson 1:48 Neal Howard 2:00 Tim Studdard 1:59 John Fridirici 2:02 Bill Dentinger 2:03 Bud Babcock 2:03 Larry Young 2:14 Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! Vroom, vroom Jeff Snook 419-344-0319 www.snooksdreamcars.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Jul 1 15:46:29 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:46:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Looks quite similar to the times we were turning last weekend.? I made it into the 1:50's, some other faster guys made it into the 1:47's. Regards, Tony On 7/1/2020 4:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race > results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend.For some reason I > don't have the results from the K-Cup.I think I missed that race > because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left > front fender, and it must have been terminal.Remember how those > TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become > disassociated from the car!! > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best > lap time: > > Jeff Snook 1:49 > > Mike Jackson 1:48 > > Neal Howard 2:00 > > Tim Studdard 1:59 > > John Fridirici2:02 > > Bill Dentinger2:03 > > Bud Babcock2:03 > > Larry Young2:14 > > Mark Butterworth1:49 (from England) > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid > Cautious" these days! > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > Vroom, vroom > > Jeff Snook > > 419-344-0319 > > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmar823 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:11:34 2020 From: dmar823 at gmail.com (Don Marshall) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 18:11:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: Jeff, according to the All Triumph Race results, you finished 9th overall, and 2nd TR3 behind Mike. I found the results sheet at http://fot-racing.com/feature/2002midohio/resultsalltriumphrace.htm Don On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:26 PM Jeff Snook wrote: > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race > results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I > don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race > because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left > front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 > rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the > car!! > > > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap > time: > > Jeff Snook 1:49 > > Mike Jackson 1:48 > > Neal Howard 2:00 > > Tim Studdard 1:59 > > John Fridirici 2:02 > > Bill Dentinger 2:03 > > Bud Babcock 2:03 > > Larry Young 2:14 > > Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) > > > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid > Cautious" these days! > > > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > > > Vroom, vroom > > > > Jeff Snook > > 419-344-0319 > > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmar823 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Wed Jul 1 16:22:51 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 15:22:51 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, I was sure looking for you and was wondering why you weren't racing. A 1:49 with the keyhole chicane? That's incredible! I was amazed to see Mike Moore doing so well. I have noticed that some of his recent race results have been terrific. He's quiet on the list, but if you're listening, great driving, Mike. You looked very smooth. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: > Jeff Snook 1:49 > Mike Jackson 1:48 > Neal Howard 2:00 > Tim Studdard 1:59 > John Fridirici 2:02 > Bill Dentinger 2:03 > Bud Babcock 2:03 > Larry Young 2:14 > Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > Vroom, vroom > > Jeff Snook > 419-344-0319 > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 16:49:01 2020 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: <764917751.990506.1593643741959@mail.yahoo.com> Great going guys.? I checked my old results sheet from Mid Ohio in 1995.? The best I could do with slick tires was 1:46.4.? Your ;lap times are terrific on vintage tires. Jack On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:13:03 PM EDT, Don Marshall wrote: Jeff, according to the All Triumph Race results, you finished 9th overall, and 2nd TR3 behind Mike.?? I found the results sheet at?http://fot-racing.com/feature/2002midohio/resultsalltriumphrace.htm Don On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:26 PM Jeff Snook wrote: Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend.? For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup.? I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal.? Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! ? TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: Jeff Snook ??????? 1:49 Mike Jackson ????? 1:48 Neal Howard ?????? 2:00 Tim Studdard ????? 1:59 John Fridirici???? 2:02 Bill Dentinger???? 2:03 Bud Babcock??????? 2:03 Larry Young??????? 2:14 Mark Butterworth?? 1:49 (from England) ? Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! ? Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! ? Vroom, vroom ? Jeff Snook 419-344-0319 www.snooksdreamcars.com ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmar823 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at artwithcars.com Wed Jul 1 17:29:09 2020 From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:29:09 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mid Ohio 1992 VIDEO! Message-ID: <9EE1F5B8-3525-47A3-AD4B-C7418E87BD52@artwithcars.com> Here?s rare archival video from the 1992 event, I believe Reg Bardon shot this footage. When I hit the oil it felt like a skating rink! https://youtu.be/lAIQpkE6KwQ ~Steve Belfer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr3a58dean at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 18:19:45 2020 From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:19:45 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com>, <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 1 18:48:47 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:48:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com>, <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I think George landed on his lid too when that happened. From: Dean Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:19 PM To: Tony Drews ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results I was there with my TR3 but did not run on Sunday. George Wright broke a rear hub and lost a wheel. I think that was on Friday or Sat morning. Dean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tony Drews Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:47 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results Looks quite similar to the times we were turning last weekend. I made it into the 1:50's, some other faster guys made it into the 1:47's. Regards, Tony On 7/1/2020 4:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: Jeff Snook 1:49 Mike Jackson 1:48 Neal Howard 2:00 Tim Studdard 1:59 John Fridirici 2:02 Bill Dentinger 2:03 Bud Babcock 2:03 Larry Young 2:14 Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! Vroom, vroom Jeff Snook 419-344-0319 www.snooksdreamcars.com _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Jul 1 19:41:04 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:41:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <8fbfa238-3453-5b2c-bb4d-d70a3566facb@tonydrews.com> Most certainly.? I stopped to see if I could help lift the car or something but he had gotten out by the time I got there. Tony On 7/1/2020 7:48 PM, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > I think George landed on his lid too when that happened. > *From:* Dean > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:19 PM > *To:* Tony Drews ; fot at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results > > I was there with my TR3 but did not run on Sunday. George Wright broke > a rear hub and lost a wheel. I think that was on Friday or Sat morning. > > Dean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Tony Drews > *Sent: *Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:47 PM > *To: *fot at autox.team.net > *Subject: *Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results > > Looks quite similar to the times we were turning last weekend.? I made > it into the 1:50's, some other faster guys made it into the 1:47's. > > Regards, Tony > > On 7/1/2020 4:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 > race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend.? For > some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup.? I think I > missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me > in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been > terminal.? Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and > allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and > best lap time: > > Jeff Snook???????? 1:49 > > Mike Jackson?????? 1:48 > > Neal Howard??????? 2:00 > > Tim Studdard?????? 1:59 > > John Fridirici???? 2:02 > > Bill Dentinger???? 2:03 > > Bud Babcock??????? 2:03 > > Larry Young??????? 2:14 > > Mark Butterworth?? 1:49 (from England) > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being > "Covid Cautious" these days! > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > Vroom, vroom > > Jeff Snook > > 419-344-0319 > > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive:http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Thu Jul 2 09:44:34 2020 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Ginevra TR5 References: <28871156.1576406.1593704674662.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <28871156.1576406.1593704674662@mail.yahoo.com> Amici... I guess I always knew there must have been a TR5, I just did not know anything about it until this morning. Then on Facebook, a post touting Edgardo Michelotti's birthday, was a picture? of 'Ginevra', the TR5. Very pretty car, albeit a tad 'civil' by TR standards. Like the Sabrina Engines used at LeMan...I wonder why it never made it to the cars sold to the public. Bill Dentinger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Jul 2 11:24:00 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:24:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Message-ID: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews From trmarty at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 11:39:16 2020 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 17:39:16 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Good question. I lost my canopy to the wind at Mid-Ohio. Marty Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=Hat1PklaIIAcPvpEENE2cq08md%2FsSqxvowStm4WQr48%3D&reserved=0 Donate: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=%2FVT%2Bl3UDOTrONLi7BPiiI33C7LiXHyFiY5s5Hsb1O70%3D&reserved=0 Archive: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=%2BkRtm1mSP6Kszq%2FQ11OrPnaeEq9XpzMrsqRDSqeQdjg%3D&reserved=0 https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=rL9aGD7GKiC%2F6F727rBuhUKWzBWWgEi5BMzfFeSsxYk%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe/Manage: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Ftrmarty1%40gmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=WTIgi9RZLz6Fj2L0JGwBfYzYrg6hEc6%2FaFJ2YUtDNUM%3D&reserved=0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jul 2 11:49:09 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 11:49:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: On 7/2/20 11:24 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle > wind and rain? Good question.? When I was doing IVR out at Wendover, every race weekend you could count on at least 2 or 3 canopies getting trashed by the winds that came screaming across the Salt Flats. Too bad one weekend it was mine that was one of the casualties, one of the anchor straps tied to the weight, 5 gallon water jug, came loose and it went for a couple hundred foot flight.? And lightweight, foldable lawn chairs also had a very high mortality rate. Ah yes, good old WINDover, Utah. mjb. From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Jul 2 12:28:08 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 13:28:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Tony, After spending a couple hundred bucks on the $30-$50 varieties, I bought a Coleman Beach canopy. Going on 3 years of south Texas beach use and the occasional race weekend. It?s windy and Texas and it?s held up. Of course I always use good anchors. Coleman Instant Beach Canopy, 10 x 10 Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0038XPNPS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_itGvsa6TNeyYO Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > From bfloyd6677 at aol.com Thu Jul 2 12:32:43 2020 From: bfloyd6677 at aol.com (bfloyd6677) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:32:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice.? Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Tony Drews Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain?Thanks, Tony Drews_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awashatko at wi.rr.com Thu Jul 2 12:33:30 2020 From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 13:33:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: See Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Jul 2 12:52:44 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 18:52:44 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. Scott (B) From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews > Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com Thu Jul 2 13:00:25 2020 From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 19:00:25 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> Message-ID: I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) You can also get replacement parts if needed. For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th Street Erie, PA 16506 Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100 Fax: 888-865-5279 Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. Scott (B) From: Fot > On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM To: Tony Drews >; Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews > Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Jul 2 13:16:58 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:16:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <8f124dbf-bcac-df13-c92e-caa7e247a75c@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> <1924244355.340723.1593716621075@mail.yahoo.com> <8f124dbf-bcac-df13-c92e-caa7e247a75c@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Resend - too many recipients... On 7/2/2020 2:13 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > Don't you get water pooling in the canopy itself when it rains?? I do > with my heavy EZ-up brand ones.? It did stay in place at Mid-O, just > filled with water.? But I've had the anchor point in one corner break > due to wind at another event.? Seems like it needs a vent in the top > to let the wind out to keep the wind load down. > > - Tony > > On 7/2/2020 2:03 PM, David Gott wrote: >> +1 for what Mike said. ?I have an easy up canopy that I didn?t have >> strapped down and blew across an airfield at an autocross. ?Bought >> two new crossbars and that was over 10 years ago that I had the >> incident. ?It?s getting a little tired from wear, but I?ve had it 15 >> years or so. ? Held up at Mid Ohio with it strapped to the trailer, a >> tire, and my overly heavy trailer hitch bar. >> >> Dave G >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> >> >> On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 3:00 PM, Michael Moore >> wrote: >> >> I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one >> survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing >> (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) >> >> You can also get replacement parts if needed. >> >> For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a >> bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands >> wind really well. >> >> Thanks >> >> Mike >> >> Michael T. Moore, CPA >> >> 3255 West 26^th Street >> >> Erie, PA 16506 >> >> Phone: 814-616-8652? ext 100 >> >> Fax: 888-865-5279 >> >> Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com >> >> This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally >> privileged information intended only for the use of the >> recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended >> recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, >> distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly >> prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender >> immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. >> >> *From:*Fot *On Behalf Of *Barr, Scott >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM >> *To:* bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews >> ; Amici Triumphi >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive >> canopy.? You get what you pay for, I suppose. >> >> Scott (B) >> >> *From:*Fot > > *On Behalf Of *bfloyd6677 >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM >> *To:* Tony Drews > >; Amici Triumphi > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice.? Just ordered a >> second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. >> >> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable >> smartphone >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> >> From: Tony Drews > >> >> Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) >> >> To: Amici Triumphi > >> >> Subject: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually >> handle wind >> and rain? >> >> Thanks, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Jul 2 13:59:16 2020 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:59:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Canopy question References: <267B2EFF-E304-4B26-8B87-032855D5EB56@att.net> Message-ID: <9B692BB9-0A4D-413B-AB2E-42DF61BFD90B@att.net> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Paul Ricco > Date: July 2, 2020 at 2:58:38 PM CDT > To: Michael Moore > Cc: "Barr, Scott" , bfloyd6677 , Tony Drews , Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > ?We have had excellent success with the Mid-High level Canopies from Eurmax. Ours have the hex shaped telescoping legs. > > 1. Very sturdy and well built. > 2. All parts are available for replacement. So you do not have to toss them if one part gets damaged. > 3. Good choice of stock colors > 4. Free shipping. > > Ours are 5 years old and we have not had any issues. They have been out in some big storms. > > We did buy some really have duty stakes that are 18? long and we use ratchet tie downs to secure it to the stakes. > > Good luck. > > Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jul 2, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Michael Moore wrote: >>> >> ? >> I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) >> >> You can also get replacement parts if needed. >> >> For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> Michael T. Moore, CPA >> 3255 West 26th Street >> Erie, PA 16506 >> >> Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100 >> Fax: 888-865-5279 >> Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com >> >> This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. >> >> >> >> From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott >> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM >> To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. >> >> Scott (B) >> >> From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM >> To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. >> >> >> >> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Tony Drews >> Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Amici Triumphi >> Subject: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind >> and rain? >> >> Thanks, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gravity has that covered. The next step is to secure topside belly lines over the EZup. Use separate buckets, (or alternative tie off ) and place them at the corners. Toss lines diagonally over the top and secure them tight. This will reduce the billowing effect of the wind and the pressure. You can also tie to a car or?? but it really gets displeasing and embarrassingly hilarious when someone makes the beer run with the EZup in tow. For the engineer nerds, and there are many among us go to: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wind-load-d_1775.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Thu Jul 2 14:12:48 2020 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 20:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Canopy question References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> I always thought the?EZ-up Canopy was convenient,?looked nice, but was wimpy. ?Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. ?We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. ?We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). ?Serious stuff. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On?Thursday, July 2, 2020,?Allen Washatko??wrote: See Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu Jul 2 14:33:31 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 16:33:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Securing an EZup. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I once saw a photo of a tractor trailer race rig canopy that had been tied down to golf carts with ratchet straps at each post. There was a wind/rain storm and the entire canopy, 3-4 golf carts included, flipped over the top of the trailer and the carts were hanging by the straps on the other side. My takeaway is that in the event of a big wind, take down the canopy. Nothing will secure it in a really big blow. On Jul 2, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Stephen Jones <6t9gt6 at toast.net> wrote: From Stephen Jones Most EZups are a disaster waiting to happen in a wind of more than 8-10 mph. A 15-20 mph gust will have you chasing it down the paddock unless well secured. A 12 mile per hour wind will generate 86lbs of force/sq.Ft. x the area of the covering. So a 12x12 EZup. could generate up to 1032 lbs of force. Just securing it with 25 lb weights is unworthy of the pressure created by the wind.( If you are a sailor, you know what a little gust can do.) As mentioned in previous posts, start with 5 gallon water buckets (8.3 lbs/gallon) at each corner, and tie it taunt to the upper frame of the EZup. Helps if you know your proper knots. This helps transfer the wind force to the ground. Just weighting the foot is inefficient because much of the force is wasted just holding down the ground. Gravity has that covered. The next step is to secure topside belly lines over the EZup. Use separate buckets, (or alternative tie off ) and place them at the corners. Toss lines diagonally over the top and secure them tight. This will reduce the billowing effect of the wind and the pressure. You can also tie to a car or?? but it really gets displeasing and embarrassingly hilarious when someone makes the beer run with the EZup in tow. For the engineer nerds, and there are many among us go to: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wind-load-d_1775.html _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Jul 2 14:34:24 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:34:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement.? Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ.? I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms. Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup.? It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn.? Also water pools in the canopy.? But it's great for shading from the sun.? The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection.? :) What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up.? The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though.? Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment.? Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run. - Tony On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: > I always thought the?EZ-up Canopy was convenient,?looked nice, but was > wimpy. ?Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. > > We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for > poles. ?We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. ?We used HD > stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). > ?Serious stuff. > > Bill Dentinger > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On?Thursday, July 2, 2020,?Allen Washatko??wrote: > > See Paul Ricco > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews > wrote: > > > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually > handle wind and rain? > > > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Thu Jul 2 14:47:26 2020 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:47:26 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> In many years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I?ve gone through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them down enough the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much gave up since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with fabricated corners that attaches to the trailer like Jason Ostrowski?s. It?s pretty impressive how much wind it can take. We get some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the rockies. Jim g From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM To: Bill Dentinger Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement. Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ. I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms. Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup. It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn. Also water pools in the canopy. But it's great for shading from the sun. The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection. :) What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up. The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though. Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment. Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run. - Tony On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but was wimpy. Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). Serious stuff. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Thursday, July 2, 2020, Allen Washatko wrote: See Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews > wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponobill at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 15:24:41 2020 From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:24:41 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <984C25C8-4EC4-429B-A9A1-1B6DB7334E35@ponostyle.com> I live in the Columbia Gorge, one of the windiest inland places on earth. People who don?t live here come and set up their EZ Ups with stakes, buckets of concrete, dirt screws, whatever. If the wind comes up to what we call ?nuking? the canopy will wind up somewhere in Idaho. The power of the wind increases as the square of velocity. You could get a Cirque de Soleil style circus tent and a crew of twenty to stake it down, or just take your EZ down. EZ-up--EZ down. If I?m using it as a car cover I lower it and tie it to the roll bar. So far, Peyote hasn?t blown to any nearby states. Nothing i know will prevent the canopy from dumping a bucket of ice cold water down your back when you?re trying to push the water belly out with a broom. > On Jul 2, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > > In many years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I?ve gone through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them down enough > the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much gave up since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with fabricated corners > that attaches to the trailer like Jason Ostrowski?s. It?s pretty impressive how much wind it can take. > We get some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the rockies. > Jim g > > From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM > To: Bill Dentinger > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement. Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ. I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms. > Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup. It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn. Also water pools in the canopy. But it's great for shading from the sun. The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection. :) > What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up. The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though. Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment. Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run. > - Tony > On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: >> I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but was wimpy. Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. >> >> We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). Serious stuff. >> >> Bill Dentinger >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >> >> On Thursday, July 2, 2020, Allen Washatko wrote: >> >>> See Paul Ricco >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews > wrote: >>> > >>> > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? >>> > >>> > Thanks, Tony Drews >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fot at autox.team.net >>> > >>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>> > >>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive? http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive? http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Packs down into a smaller bundle than an EZup. -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of fot-request at autox.team.net Sent: 02 July 2020 19:00 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 216 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's why hurricanes and tornadoes are so damned destructive. *Total wind power, P_t = (?AC_i ^3 )/2* Where, ? = density of air A = swept area perpendicular to wind direction C_i = incoming wind velocity Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Thu Jul 2 15:54:09 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 21:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <48ebe6b1-4f0b-5906-41fb-c08c4795f6f7@dfn.com> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> <984C25C8-4EC4-429B-A9A1-1B6DB7334E35@ponostyle.com> <48ebe6b1-4f0b-5906-41fb-c08c4795f6f7@dfn.com> Message-ID: <916620423.411829.1593726849970@mail.yahoo.com> *takes notes, applies to TR4 top speed* LOL Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:52 PM, Michael Porter wrote: On 7/2/2020 3:24 PM, Ponostyle wrote: The power of the wind increases as the square of velocity. Umm, actually, wind power increases with the cube of the velocity. Double the wind speed and the power goes up by a factor of eight.? It's why hurricanes and tornadoes are so damned destructive. Total wind power, Pt = (?ACi3)/2 ? Where, ? = density of air A = swept area perpendicular to wind direction Ci = incoming wind velocity Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Thu Jul 2 13:03:41 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 19:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1924244355.340723.1593716621075@mail.yahoo.com> +1 for what Mike said. ?I have an easy up canopy that I didn?t have strapped down and blew across an airfield at an autocross. ?Bought two new crossbars and that was over 10 years ago that I had the incident. ?It?s getting a little tired from wear, but I?ve had it 15 years or so. ? Held up at Mid Ohio with it strapped to the trailer, a tire, and my overly heavy trailer hitch bar. Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 3:00 PM, Michael Moore wrote: #yiv4576275516 #yiv4576275516 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv4576275516 #yiv4576275516 p.yiv4576275516MsoNormal, #yiv4576275516 li.yiv4576275516MsoNormal, #yiv4576275516 div.yiv4576275516MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv4576275516 a:link, #yiv4576275516 span.yiv4576275516MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4576275516 .yiv4576275516MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv4576275516 div.yiv4576275516WordSection1 {}#yiv4576275516 I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) ? You can also get replacement parts if needed. ? For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. ? Thanks Mike ? Michael T. Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th Street Erie, PA 16506 ? Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 Email:???mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com ? This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. ? ? ? From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question ? Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy.? You get what you pay for, I suppose. ? Scott (B) ? From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question ? Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice.? Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. ? ? ? Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone ? ? -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Canopy question ? Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archivehttp://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Jul 2 13:58:38 2020 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:58:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <267B2EFF-E304-4B26-8B87-032855D5EB56@att.net> We have had excellent success with the Mid-High level Canopies from Eurmax. Ours have the hex shaped telescoping legs. 1. Very sturdy and well built. 2. All parts are available for replacement. So you do not have to toss them if one part gets damaged. 3. Good choice of stock colors 4. Free shipping. Ours are 5 years old and we have not had any issues. They have been out in some big storms. We did buy some really have duty stakes that are 18? long and we use ratchet tie downs to secure it to the stakes. Good luck. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Michael Moore wrote: > > ? > I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) > > You can also get replacement parts if needed. > > For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 3255 West 26th Street > Erie, PA 16506 > > Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100 > Fax: 888-865-5279 > Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com > > This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. > > > > From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM > To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. > > Scott (B) > > From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM > To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. > > > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tony Drews > Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] Canopy question > > Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind > and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th Street Erie, PA 16506 Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 Email:??? mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 4:42 PM To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] In car videos from Mid-Ohio races last weekend Here are my in-car videos.? Both races were a good time. Kas Cup Sat: https://youtu.be/NHjsgbK5cc4 Sun feature: https://youtu.be/rjeIgYtMVM4 Regards, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com From tony at tonydrews.com Sat Jul 4 13:04:59 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 14:04:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] In car videos from Mid-Ohio races last weekend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No sheet, but have the results from the "Race Monitor" app that SVRA feeds.? Screenshots from my phone attached... Regards, Tony On 7/4/2020 1:31 PM, Michael Moore wrote: > Anybody have a time sheet from Sundays race they can post > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 3255 West 26th Street > Erie, PA 16506 > > Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 > Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 > Email:??? mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com > > This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews > Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 4:42 PM > To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] In car videos from Mid-Ohio races last weekend > > Here are my in-car videos.? 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If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. From: Fot On Behalf Of David Gott Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 PM To: Michael Porter ; Ponostyle ; Jim Gray Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question *takes notes, applies to TR4 top speed* LOL Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:52 PM, Michael Porter > wrote: On 7/2/2020 3:24 PM, Ponostyle wrote: The power of the wind increases as the square of velocity. Umm, actually, wind power increases with the cube of the velocity. Double the wind speed and the power goes up by a factor of eight. It's why hurricanes and tornadoes are so damned destructive. Total wind power, Pt = (?ACi3)/2 Where, ? = density of air A = swept area perpendicular to wind direction Ci = incoming wind velocity Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhassall at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 13:07:33 2020 From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:07:33 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Help pls: shirt order Message-ID: Amici, Ted needs a Men's Medium shirt. If anyone received a Men's Medium which they didn't order, or if anyone has one extra they're willing to send to Ted, pls contact him. Ted's # is 419.384.3022. Thanks! jim -- W4BEA The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson I sometimes feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entertained is totally the way to go! ;-) J. Stoll -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 14:06:08 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:06:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Help pls: shirt order In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I need an XL. There has been some discussion of another run. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 6, 2020, at 2:08 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > > ? > Amici, > Ted needs a Men's Medium shirt. If anyone received a Men's Medium which they didn't order, or if anyone has one extra they're willing to send to Ted, pls contact him. Ted's # is 419.384.3022. > > Thanks! > > jim > > -- > W4BEA > > The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. > Thomas Jefferson > > I sometimes feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entertained is totally the way to go! ;-) > J. Stoll > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If anyone received a Men's Medium which they didn't order, or if anyone has one extra they're willing to send to Ted, pls contact him.? Ted's # is 419.384.3022. Thanks! jim -- W4BEA The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson I sometimes feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entertained is totally the way to go! ;-)J. 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Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 Begin forwarded message: > From: James J Dolan > Date: July 7, 2020 at 8:40:35 AM CDT > To: Joe Alexander > Subject: Collecting videos > > ? > Joe, > We need to make an effort to get some of the drivers race video footage. > I looked at the video I returned to Linney with the cameras and there is not much good in there, other than the 360 camera. > I mailed him a card with my footage today. > No one returned the yellow sheets to me with cards. Maybe they mailed them directly, but I think we should remind them to send stuff to John. > > Can we put out an email to the racers to send him video? > Tony Drews, Sam, Alex in the white GT6 gridded in 2nd and 3rd had front and rear cameras. > These drivers offer up some video footage and get themselves in the movie. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at linneyweb.com Tue Jul 7 09:12:36 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 08:12:36 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Collecting videos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B83985D-F9F7-4D86-9D6E-9B77FB83181A@linneyweb.com> Thanks Joe & Jim. I?ve had quite a good response online, and at least one other card on its way to me along with my cameras. The best way to get me footage now is by uploading it here... https://www.dropbox.com/request/0IoY59cnUAGG1dEqOJ7o I can?t start work on this until everything is in so I have to set a deadline of this Friday, or I?ll never get started :). As Joe said - I have some 1992 and 2002 Mid-Ohio footage to set the scene, and comments generously provided by Kas to round it off. I also have track-side from Shawn Frank with some glorious sound. SVRA are letting me use their race coverage too. My goal is to cover the race primarily from the driver perspective, with cover from the SVRA footage. I?d like to show every battle and pass that I can, not just the leader action. I really appreciate every effort to get me what you can. If you send me footage you WILL be in the movie. Many thanks. -john John Linney Classic Motor Films https://classicmotorfilms.com 408 887 8105 > On Jul 7, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > ? > FOT Kastner Cup Racers: > > We need racers to send in their in car videos for the Kastner Cup Documentary that is being done by Motorsports Films (John Linney). See Jim Dolan?s appeal below. > > This is a very significant effort. > > It will also include an audio interview with Kas, some past footage, and descriptions of drivers and cars. > > It may also find its way to a monitor at the newly formed British Sports Car Museum. > > Seal your place in history by getting your videos in. John is working feverishly, but Covid free. > > Thank you. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: James J Dolan >> Date: July 7, 2020 at 8:40:35 AM CDT >> To: Joe Alexander >> Subject: Collecting videos >> >> ? >> Joe, >> We need to make an effort to get some of the drivers race video footage. >> I looked at the video I returned to Linney with the cameras and there is not much good in there, other than the 360 camera. >> I mailed him a card with my footage today. >> No one returned the yellow sheets to me with cards. Maybe they mailed them directly, but I think we should remind them to send stuff to John. >> >> Can we put out an email to the racers to send him video? >> Tony Drews, Sam, Alex in the white GT6 gridded in 2nd and 3rd had front and rear cameras. >> These drivers offer up some video footage and get themselves in the movie. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 12:09:55 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:09:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? Message-ID: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. Sean, Tony? Anyone? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From kkjjk at aol.com Tue Jul 7 12:22:16 2020 From: kkjjk at aol.com (JAY DE POL) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:22:16 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? In-Reply-To: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D6BF0A0-8588-495B-8CC9-A345ED4BABFB@aol.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 836832 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 801737 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1347599894.1826943.1594146416308@mail.yahoo.com> This isn?t ideal, but it?s off of my Speedhive/Mylaps account: https://speedhive.mylaps.com/Sessions/5776298#all-results? Grid sheets were hard to get as they weren?t posted due to COVID..I hope that helps! Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 2:10 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. Sean, Tony? Anyone? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Jul 7 12:27:01 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:27:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? In-Reply-To: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59546f4d-7180-8e86-33f3-ded3c84c6f7f@tonydrews.com> Screenshots attached. Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:09 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. > > Sean, Tony? Anyone? > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200703_161041000_iOS.png Type: image/png Size: 582799 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <8DC2A983-995F-43B5-AA78-7EDA7E6FE189@gmail.com> References: <8DC2A983-995F-43B5-AA78-7EDA7E6FE189@gmail.com> Message-ID: Be sure to use a version sorted by lap time, not by finishing order.? Jay's screenshots show finishing order - I thought I qualified 7th until I found the button to flip it to time order. My screenshots are in time order.? Not picking on Jay! Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:44 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > From rick.parent at att.net Tue Jul 7 14:58:47 2020 From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 20:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? In-Reply-To: <59546f4d-7180-8e86-33f3-ded3c84c6f7f@tonydrews.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> <59546f4d-7180-8e86-33f3-ded3c84c6f7f@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <201669665.1906519.1594155527478@mail.yahoo.com> I assume you are talking about Saturdays race? If so the grid was set by the best times of the qualifying session, see below. Also see the attached grid sheet by car number for the grid guys. If you want the grid sheet for Sundays race it was set by the finishing position from Saturdays race. General (Mad Dog) Mattis"Be prepared to reverse decisions as new data comes in, then replace assumptions?with knowledge" On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 02:32:55 PM EDT, Tony Drews wrote: Screenshots attached. Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:09 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. > > Sean, Tony? 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I didn't realize you could do that!-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2020 2:50 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Qualifying. Thanks. What a group! Got it....from several sources. Be sure to use a version sorted by lap time, not by finishing order.? Jay's screenshots show finishing order - I thought I qualified 7th until I found the button to flip it to time order. My screenshots are in time order.? Not picking on Jay! Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:44 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell:? 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?m going to preserve as much of the period look and set up as possible and run it in the historic group in CVAR in Texas and future FoT events. I?m not going to restore it, just freshen the mechanical and safety bits. I?m even going to keep the awful paint job that was literally put on with a brush. That?s character that you can?t re-create. And my apologies, the FOT that helped me is Jim Dooley, sorry for getting your name wrong. Dusty Nicholson > On Jun 23, 2020, at 9:01 PM, dustin nicholson wrote: > > ?Amici, > > Does anyone know this car? I bought it today in St. Louis and know a little bit of the history but I?m hoping someone on the list will remember it and can tell me more. > > It was very competitive in SCCA Midwest in the 60s and early 70s. Ran in the American Road Race of Champions (Runoffs) in 1966 at Riverside and again in 1969 at Daytona. That was the last year it was held at Daytona before moving to Road Atlanta. The car DNF?d after 14 laps with the 7th fastest lap time. Pretty good for a 14-year-old car. The race and therefore championship was won in 16 laps by the ex-Tim Suddard Group 44 GT6. > > Driver/builder/owner was Bill Boemler. No logbook remains. The only other race I know of was at Garnett in 1972, but obviously it raced a lot more than these three races that I know of. It?s believed to have stopped racing around that 1972 race and has practically not been touched since. It?s in rough shape but is a time capsule for how a car was prepped 50 years ago. The car had the nickname ?The Flying Bedstead? due to its unique role bar. > > Attached is a photo of it at Daytona in 1969 and a photo of it now. > > Sidenote 1: The Vin number is the 15th TR3 and was likely made on the first day TR3?s went into production. > > Sidenote 2: The seller had a Triumph buddy with him today to help unload my FP spitfire that was part of the deal, and load up the TR3. That buddy turned out to be FOT! 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URL: From john.r.davies at btinternet.com Wed Jul 8 01:02:45 2020 From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (John Davaies) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 08:02:45 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> FAO John Linney, John, Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I hope he has more! John Davies Lancaster UK (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of fot-request at autox.team.net Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." From john at linneyweb.com Wed Jul 8 09:31:14 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 08:31:14 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> References: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <71DA2F9C-03B9-4405-A6D7-4F27CC84EF1D@linneyweb.com> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies wrote: > > ?FAO John Linney, > John, > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I > hope he has more! > > John Davies > Lancaster UK > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot On Behalf Of > fot-request at autox.team.net > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 > > Send Fot mailing list submissions to > fot at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fot-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fot-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com > > > From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:21:26 2020 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:21:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: <71DA2F9C-03B9-4405-A6D7-4F27CC84EF1D@linneyweb.com> References: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> <71DA2F9C-03B9-4405-A6D7-4F27CC84EF1D@linneyweb.com> Message-ID: I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney wrote: > Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m > incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john > > > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies > wrote: > > > > ?FAO John Linney, > > John, > > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for > as > > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their > > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being > > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I > > hope he has more! > > > > John Davies > > Lancaster UK > > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fot On Behalf Of > > fot-request at autox.team.net > > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 > > To: fot at autox.team.net > > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 > > > > Send Fot mailing list submissions to > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > fot-request at autox.team.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > fot-owner at autox.team.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 13:00:32 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:00:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <256E54CA-C235-4FBC-BF98-D9F2298FE247@gmail.com> Lessons Learned. We should have been doing Bio and Provenance sheets early on in the Kastner Cup Series. Next year? Thanks Shawn Frank, Media Maven. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: > > ? > I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on > > www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs > > and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. > > I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. > > I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... > > Shawn Frank > The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor > North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner > Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead > Continued Legacy Photo - Owner > Iowa British Car Club > FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 > Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver > 515-339-4228 > > > '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" > '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 > '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney wrote: >> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john >> >> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies wrote: >> > >> > ?FAO John Linney, >> > John, >> > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as >> > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their >> > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being >> > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I >> > hope he has more! >> > >> > John Davies >> > Lancaster UK >> > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Fot On Behalf Of >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 >> > To: fot at autox.team.net >> > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 >> > >> > Send Fot mailing list submissions to >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > fot-owner at autox.team.net >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Wed Jul 8 13:55:46 2020 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:55:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] RMVR Race Against Kids Cancer Message-ID: <00ba01d65561$c5b12d40$511387c0$@comcast.net> If anyone is looking for a race next month our biggest race of the year RAKC is August 1st & 2nd at High Plains Raceway. So far there are 33 small bore cars signed up including six Triumphs. If you happen to be in the neighborhood we'd love to have you. http://rmvr.com/ https://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.status/uidEvent/D84F5E43 -9BCA-73E1-C4D003DCAFE61BAE https://www.highplainsraceway.com/ Jim Gray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at linneyweb.com Thu Jul 9 10:45:59 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:45:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: <256E54CA-C235-4FBC-BF98-D9F2298FE247@gmail.com> References: <256E54CA-C235-4FBC-BF98-D9F2298FE247@gmail.com> Message-ID: The FOT web site would seem to be the perfect long-term place for bios - a page per driver? -john > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > Lessons Learned. We should have been doing Bio and Provenance sheets early on in the Kastner Cup Series. > > Next year? > > Thanks Shawn Frank, Media Maven. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: >> >> ? >> I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on >> >> www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs >> >> and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. >> >> I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. >> >> I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... >> >> Shawn Frank >> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor >> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner >> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead >> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner >> Iowa British Car Club >> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 >> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver >> 515-339-4228 >> >> >> '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" >> '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 >> '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney > wrote: >> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john >> >> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies > wrote: >> > >> > ?FAO John Linney, >> > John, >> > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as >> > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their >> > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being >> > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I >> > hope he has more! >> > >> > John Davies >> > Lancaster UK >> > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Fot > On Behalf Of >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 >> > To: fot at autox.team.net >> > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 >> > >> > Send Fot mailing list submissions to >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > fot-owner at autox.team.net >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Thu Jul 9 16:11:42 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:11:42 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <740A3DF8-D690-40CE-A464-8F3676E20A5B@aol.com> See the HRG ?cars and Drivers? pages. Mike Harmuth has done a good job of making bios entertaining reading! https://historicracinggroup.com/cars-and-driver-info.php Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:47 PM, John Linney wrote: > > ?The FOT web site would seem to be the perfect long-term place for bios - a page per driver? -john > >> On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> >> Lessons Learned. We should have been doing Bio and Provenance sheets early on in the Kastner Cup Series. >> >> Next year? >> >> Thanks Shawn Frank, Media Maven. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on >>> >>> www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs >>> >>> and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. >>> >>> I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. >>> >>> I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... >>> >>> Shawn Frank >>> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor >>> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner >>> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead >>> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner >>> Iowa British Car Club >>> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 >>> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver >>> 515-339-4228 >>> >>> >>> '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" >>> '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 >>> '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney wrote: >>>> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john >>>> >>>> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies wrote: >>>> > >>>> > ?FAO John Linney, >>>> > John, >>>> > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as >>>> > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their >>>> > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being >>>> > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I >>>> > hope he has more! >>>> > >>>> > John Davies >>>> > Lancaster UK >>>> > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: Fot On Behalf Of >>>> > fot-request at autox.team.net >>>> > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 >>>> > To: fot at autox.team.net >>>> > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 >>>> > >>>> > Send Fot mailing list submissions to >>>> > fot at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> > fot-request at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> > fot-owner at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >>>> > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > fot at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> > >>>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Fri Jul 10 08:13:01 2020 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:13:01 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Help ID this shop References: Message-ID: <68A03DC3-4236-4645-8813-7B7B40FC604C@columbus.rr.com> > Metal worker maybe a radiator shop doing repair on chromed brass grille? Jack?s Lomdom > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Grill Manufactur's Plate stamped 21.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 93071 bytes Desc: not available URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 08:03:31 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:03:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5329DA11-CBE0-4505-8C67-726F4DA5163C@gmail.com> This is a Triumph Service Announcement (TSA). From Kas. Attention Texas FOT in particular. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Kas Kastner > Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:09 AM > Subject: New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. > To: for at autox.team.net > > > Mke Downs , the 1967 Daytona Runnoffs Champion with the Group 44 Triumph GT-6 Mikehas moved his complete race/ restoration shop to TEXAS. Yup, he moved from Sonoma California where he specialized in Vintage Car restoration, repairs, assembly, manufacturing, any and all parts. > > In New Braunfels Texas Mike is close to the racing action and will be happy to chat with you on your racing and restoration problems. By the way Mike is a really nice man too. How could it get better. Give Mike at a call at 830-312-7740. > Never be beaten by equipment. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Sat Jul 11 13:44:57 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:44:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. In-Reply-To: <5329DA11-CBE0-4505-8C67-726F4DA5163C@gmail.com> References: <5329DA11-CBE0-4505-8C67-726F4DA5163C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Right down the street, at least the way we measure down here. Will have to make a trip down to visit him soon. Thanks for sharing. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 11, 2020, at 9:07 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > ? > This is a Triumph Service Announcement (TSA). From Kas. > > Attention Texas FOT in particular. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kas Kastner >> Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:09 AM >> Subject: New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. >> To: for at autox.team.net >> >> >> Mke Downs , the 1967 Daytona Runnoffs Champion with the Group 44 Triumph GT-6 Mikehas moved his complete race/ restoration shop to TEXAS. Yup, he moved from Sonoma California where he specialized in Vintage Car restoration, repairs, assembly, manufacturing, any and all parts. >> >> In New Braunfels Texas Mike is close to the racing action and will be happy to chat with you on your racing and restoration problems. By the way Mike is a really nice man too. How could it get better. Give Mike at a call at 830-312-7740. >> Never be beaten by equipment. >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The several years? build up to the race Gives some interesting insights into the personalities of Dreyfus, Carriciola, Chiron and other famous drivers of the day. A real ?page turner!? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Wed Jul 15 06:32:54 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 07:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 bumpers Message-ID: <2C75BAA7-C441-4DB0-B9D0-D5A4BA4C4878@icloud.com> My son and I are restoring his storage unit TR3. We are doing a shake down of all the parts bins discovering the missing bits. Currently looking for front and rear bumpers. Please let me know if you have any lying around that looking for a good project car to call home. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone From dos_gusanos at msn.com Wed Jul 15 07:09:32 2020 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:09:32 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR3 bumpers In-Reply-To: <2C75BAA7-C441-4DB0-B9D0-D5A4BA4C4878@icloud.com> References: <2C75BAA7-C441-4DB0-B9D0-D5A4BA4C4878@icloud.com> Message-ID: I just bought two storage unit TR3's, probably have a bunch of that stuff that all needs chrome..............Cheers, Henry Morrison, Salt Lake City Sent from Outlook ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Greg Blake Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 6:32 AM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] TR3 bumpers My son and I are restoring his storage unit TR3. We are doing a shake down of all the parts bins discovering the missing bits. Currently looking for front and rear bumpers. Please let me know if you have any lying around that looking for a good project car to call home. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos at msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From agb at compsnw.com Thu Jul 16 19:02:22 2020 From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:02:22 -0700 Subject: [Fot] hauling help Message-ID: <6dc9d0b3-ed47-c9f7-6cb7-f14c81b5dfea@compsnw.com> Still hoping to find somebody with an empty trailer in order to transport a Triumph Herald from Twin Falls, ID (Boise area) to the Seattle area, anywhere from Tacoma to Bellingham. Thanks in advance Alec Buchan, Bellingham. From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Mon Jul 20 01:37:30 2020 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 17:37:30 +1000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear suspension query Message-ID: i'm soon to "refresh" the back end of our old GT6 Mk2 race car and i'd dearly like to hear from successful racers of this model before heading down any particular path Currently it has home made lower wishbones & rear upper arm to give easier adjustment for toe and camber. it has a 1 leaf upper spring and koni race shocks with coil springs The upper transverse leaf is mostly there to satisfy a period race rule that says it must stay there, but the bulk of the springing performed by the coils (350lb/in from memory) Some folk have suggested the single upper leaf get replaced with a swing spring, but i'm not sure i see the benefit on a race car is there a 'collective wisdom" on this subject for the Mk2 cars?? thanks Terry O'Beirne Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.r.davies at btinternet.com Mon Jul 20 12:49:22 2020 From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (John Davaies) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:49:22 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 232 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f101d65ec6$7be921e0$73bb65a0$@btinternet.com> GT6 suspension If you have wishbones,, then you are simulating the Rotaflex modification done in response to criticism of the swing axle design of early cars. Then Triumph had the Brilliant idea of the swing spring, to make the car soft in roll, but hard in bump. The advantage was in lightness, no heavy cast iron wishbone, and cheapness. If you have fabricatd (light?) wishbones (and don't intend to go into production) there is nothing to be gained by going swing spring. Indeed, swing spring and variable length drive shafts (just won't mix! On this subject, I recently had a correspondence with Mark Ortiz, the chassis consultant to many Nascar and other US teams. Racecar Engineering is an excellent journal, which I recommend! And Mark is a regular columnist, "The Consultant". A recent column dealt with the Chevrolet Corvair, that gained an awful reputation for poor design and on-road lethality. Ortiz discussed the swing axle that the Corvair had, and shared with other cars. In the absence of a Correspondence column in the magazine, I wrote to him: Mark, Thank you for your interesting article on the Corvair, (Racecar Engineering, August 2020, p.51 Corvair Vindication?) and the swing axle design that so attracted Nader's ire. As you say, that design and its shortcomings were well known in the 60s. You listed several manufacturers, so attracted by this cheap and simple suspension as to use it in their cars. But you omitted the car whose designers evolved the swing axle more successfully and cheaply than most, Standard Triumph. They chose the swing axle for their 'small-chassis' series of models, the Herald, Spitfire, GT6 and Vitesse. Motoring journalists knew as well as designers how to get such an axle to 'jack-up' and did so immediately, giving the cars a poor reputation. Triumph replied for the more powerful GT6 and Vitesse by adding a lower wishbone, but the design was heavy and expensive. As you say in your article, "what works best for a swing axle is stiff springing in ride. and soft springing in roll" but you only gave Formula Vee as the example. Triumph came up with the "swing spring" that did just that, by allowing the transverse spring to pivot in the centre, to reduce the roll resistance of later cars by 75% ! This most successful modification is, I believe , unique, and I feel that Triumph's ingenuity should have been recognised! Mark has been kind enough to answer me in his latest Chassis Newsletter, a regular email column that as he says he "sends out to promote my business, it is not my intention to spam my correspondents, and the newsletter is intended to be genuinely useful to its recipients." No doubt you do, Mark, you're not spamming me, and your article is most useful. Thank you! I hope other Triumpheros will be interested: THE TRIUMPH SWING SPRING The "swing spring" is one of many ways to skin this cat. The oldest I know of is Mercedes' third coil spring. For those unfamiliar with it, the swing spring is a transverse leaf spring similar to the one that the Spitfire/Herald suspension already had, only rubber mounted. This allows the spring to swing as the suspension displaces in roll, but the rubber resists this a bit. The spring itself is also made stiffer than the original. This allows the system to act like the original system with a camber compensator added, or maybe a bit better, with fewer parts. Also, although I have not investigated the patent situation surrounding this, I would surmise that the swing spring probably would be a patentable invention. The swing spring reduces the elastic roll resistance by about 75%, compared to (I guess) an identical leaf spring rigidly mounted. The system still has a lot of geometric roll resistance, and it still jacks quite a bit. Indeed, Triumph could have just mounted the spring so it could swing freely, eliminating rear elastic roll resistance entirely. This would make the system functionally equivalent to a "zero roll" setup on a Formula Vee. The system would still produce substantial geometric roll resistance, and accordingly considerable load transfer and jacking when cornering. However, I doubt that it would have been patentable like that. Another way to reduce the jacking and limit oversteer is to add front anti-roll bar stiffness. The less load transfer the rear has (meaning the more the front has), the less the rear swing axle system will jack. Depending on tires, road surface, and rear toe setting, swing axles can produce judder on the inside wheel when we reduce rear load transfer. I have seen this with Mk. 3 Spitfires, on the street, on street radials. This is sort of the Y-axis analog of rear wheel hop in braking with a lot of rear brake and anti-lift. Swing axles can also produce judder on the outside wheel. There is no way to make a swing axle suspension as good as more complex forms of independent suspension. The Triumph swing spring does not produce handling equal to the earlier GT 6 suspension. However, it is somewhat lighter, definitely cheaper, and a significant improvement over the earlier swing axle setup. And it achieves this essentially for free - really no added parts at all. So to that extent, it is indeed a clever solution. In theory, GM could likewise have used just a swinging leaf spring on the Corvair - basically just a multi-leaf camber compensator - and dispensed with the coil springs, although there might be structural reasons that wouldn't work, at least not without re-engineering the engine and transaxle mountings. Those mounts would then be holding the back of the car up, and there would also be significant bending loads applied to the transaxle and engine. -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of fot-request at autox.team.net Sent: 20 July 2020 19:00 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 232 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." From macdonaldp at rogers.com Tue Jul 21 08:28:17 2020 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 10:28:17 -0400 Subject: [Fot] FW: 1974 TR7 Race Car For Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01d65f6b$2d837e60$888a7b20$@rogers.com> The 1975 TR7 race car that I restored a while ago is up for sale. I sold it in 2012 to the current owner. I don?t think he has done much to the car except collected parts for a V8 conversion. Paul From: Boot 'n Bonnet All British Car Club [mailto:BNB-L at LISTS.QUEENSU.CA] On Behalf Of Brian Thomas Sent: July 21, 2020 8:14 AM To: BNB-L at LISTS.QUEENSU.CA Subject: 1974 TR7 Race Car For Sale Greg Kerr has a race car for sale ? 1974 Triumph TR7 with documented race history. Was raced successfully in the day by Cullingford Motors, a BL dealer located in Barrie. Restored to near show condition but needs work to go racing. About 90% complete. Eligible for VARAC road racing at Mosport, Shannonville, Calabogie, etc. Totally tricked out with rare works BL factory competition parts. Webers, 5 sp close ratio, fully adjustable rear suspension. I was going to convert to TR8 so also have two V8's with many competition parts such as pistons, camshaft, rockers, Holley 4bbl, headers, etc. Many spare parts including body panels. Too much to list. Custom tow bar to take it home if you don't have a trailer. $8500 for everything or $6500 if you only want the TR7. email me for photos. gregsk at bell.net Greg Kerr 613 478 1089. Tweed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/slaterptrs at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Jul 23 08:06:54 2020 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:06:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4382A9D3-CDB7-4C87-A62E-EFBB2D60B347@att.net> Second! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:50 AM, marty sukey wrote: > > ? > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell.pierce at lpl.com Thu Jul 23 08:09:05 2020 From: russell.pierce at lpl.com (Pierce, Russell) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:09:05 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: <5F2DC950-44ED-4AFA-8377-03B75EFAA405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <93333fd58fe34b4ab7cb276e7ad9bc82@P02HSVW-AXADV07.lpl.net> I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. [cid:image001.png at 01D660D9.4B30FE00] 314 Corder Road (478) 225-6750 Warner Robins, GA 31088 (478) 225-6740 fax www.GriggersWealth.com GriggersWealth at LPL.com Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. From: Fot On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM To: Terry Sopher ; FOT Subject: [Fot] Nomination I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? Marty Securities offered through LPL Financial Member FINRA/SIPC The information contained in this email message is being transmitted to and is intended for the use of only the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. 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Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY Off to continue finishing the ?58 Bugeye (street car) we rescued from the crusher. It (should) make its first official appearance at Lime Rock?s Sunday in the Park concours. > On Jul 23, 2020, at 9:50 AM, marty sukey wrote: > > ? > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Second!-- Jay and Kathy De PolDid he find out what the problem was with (I think)? his transmission??? -----Original Message----- From: Pierce, Russell To: marty sukey ; Terry Sopher ; FOT Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination #yiv0629689496 #yiv0629689496 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv0629689496 #yiv0629689496 p.yiv0629689496MsoNormal, #yiv0629689496 li.yiv0629689496MsoNormal, #yiv0629689496 div.yiv0629689496MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0629689496 a:link, #yiv0629689496 span.yiv0629689496MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0629689496 span.yiv0629689496EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv0629689496 .yiv0629689496MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv0629689496 div.yiv0629689496WordSection1 {}#yiv0629689496 I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. ? ? 314 Corder Road????????????????????????????????????????????????? (478) 225-6750 Warner Robins, GA? 31088?????????????????????????????????? (478) 225-6740 fax www.GriggersWealth.com???????????????????????????GriggersWealth at LPL.com ? Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. ? From: Fot On Behalf Ofmarty sukey Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM To: Terry Sopher ; FOT Subject: [Fot] Nomination ? I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio.? Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com.? How about a second? ? Marty ? ? ? 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Second!-- Jay and Kathy De Pol > Did he find out what the problem was with (I think) his transmission??? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pierce, Russell > To: marty sukey ; Terry Sopher ; FOT > Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination > > I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. > > > > 314 Corder Road (478) 225-6750 > Warner Robins, GA 31088 (478) 225-6740 fax > www.GriggersWealth.com GriggersWealth at LPL.com > > Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. > This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. > > From: Fot On Behalf Of marty sukey > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM > To: Terry Sopher ; FOT > Subject: [Fot] Nomination > > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > > > > Securities offered through LPL Financial Member FINRA/SIPC > > > The information contained in this email message is being transmitted to and is intended for the use of only the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby advised that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 08:46:34 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:46:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <32FA67F7-20CA-4017-B0CB-75EBBA51384A@gmail.com> References: <32FA67F7-20CA-4017-B0CB-75EBBA51384A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Cathy & I enjoyed meeting everyone and adding new friendships and look forward to future events! Best, Terry & Cathy > On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:41, Terry Sopher wrote: > > ? > Hi All, > > The flywheel bolts all sheared off. Bell housing is toast & The crank has multiple cracks. Sourcing parts now and having Andy Greene (he bought Ted Wentz?s Savannah Race & Engineering this June) put motor back together and new flywheel/clutch assembly. > > Looking at fall VDCA & SVRA schedules...definitely Roebling Road! > > Best, Terry > >>> On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:16, kkjjk at aol.com wrote: >>> >> ? >> We were paddacked on the other side of Terry. Very nice people and very nice car. Second!-- Jay and Kathy De Pol >> Did he find out what the problem was with (I think) his transmission??? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pierce, Russell >> To: marty sukey ; Terry Sopher ; FOT >> Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination >> >> I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. >> >> >> >> 314 Corder Road (478) 225-6750 >> Warner Robins, GA 31088 (478) 225-6740 fax >> www.GriggersWealth.com GriggersWealth at LPL.com >> >> Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. >> This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. >> >> From: Fot On Behalf Of marty sukey >> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM >> To: Terry Sopher ; FOT >> Subject: [Fot] Nomination >> >> I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? >> >> Marty >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Securities offered through LPL Financial Member FINRA/SIPC >> >> >> The information contained in this email message is being transmitted to and is intended for the use of only the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby advised that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 09:08:47 2020 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:08:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: <5F2DC950-44ED-4AFA-8377-03B75EFAA405@gmail.com> Message-ID: I second the Colonel! *Shawn Frank* *The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor VTR#94692North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - OwnerDes Moines Concours d'Elegance - RecruiterContinued Legacy Photo - OwnerIowa British Car ClubFriends of Triumph - MediaDrive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver515-339-4228'71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude"'65 Triumph TR4A IRS "Johnny"* On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 8:50 AM marty sukey wrote: > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced > with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is > just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His > email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bkahler1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 16:34:19 2020 From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:34:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] Randall Young In-Reply-To: <000001d66140$e0828660$a1879320$@uprichard.net> References: <000001d66140$e0828660$a1879320$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: FYI Sad news. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: andrew uprichard Date: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:31 PM Subject: [TR] Randall Young To: , 6-Pack I just got a call from Randall?s wife, Mei. Randall died 2 days ago. He was only 64. Very sad indeed. Mei asked me to let his Triumph friends know, so I have posted a note on TRE as well as this email. Anyone who knew Randall should feel free to post to other sites where he was active. Mei told me they are planning a funeral in the Midwest (Missouri, I believe, but she was very emotional and hard to follow). She said any friends who want to know more should call her on her cell phone: (562) 303 8007. Her address is 5754 Coke Avenue, Lakewood, CA 90712-1605. Rest in peace, Randall ? we will miss you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Jul 24 05:45:11 2020 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:45:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] RIP Randall Young. FOT. References: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F@cs.com> FOT: Many of you did not know Randall, but he was on the FOT List since the late 90s. He was one of exceptions to the list preference for ?racers only?. He had superior Triumph knowledge and was very helpful to many of us over the years. And so it goes....... Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jul 24 08:45:43 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:45:43 -0600 Subject: [Fot] RIP Randall Young. FOT. In-Reply-To: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F@cs.com> References: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F.ref@cs.com> <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F@cs.com> Message-ID: <51096d95-be88-6ebc-a14c-b180d5ee2fd6@bradakis.com> On 7/24/20 5:45 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > > Many of you did not know Randall, but he was on the FOT List since the late 90s. > > He was one of exceptions to the list preference for ?racers only?. He had superior Triumph knowledge and was very helpful to many of us over the years. > > And so it goes....... > Yes, 2020 delivers yet another solid kick to the groin.? Randall was the exception to many rules, no doubt. And here's a shot in the dark. On 7/24/20 3:46 AM, Lawarence Schwartz wrote: > Hello, Such sad news indeed. I was introduced to Randall many years > ago by the late ?FT? Fred Thomas . Such two true blue fine gentlemen. > Randall, there is a special place for you in heaven, RIP. ? Lawrence > Schwartz So does anyone have a photo of Fred and Randall together?? I had an idea for a project some years ago, and maybe I should get back to work on it. http://autox.team.net/memory.html mjb. From dkettler1 at charter.net Fri Jul 24 11:00:45 2020 From: dkettler1 at charter.net (dkettler1 at charter.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 12:00:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed Message-ID: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> All, I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side steering link for a Spitfire. Driver is a friend of Kent Prather so I am canvasing the list for Kent. Any help is appreciated. He would like to race this weekend. Thanks, Dave Kettler 920-946-7491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jul 24 11:42:36 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:42:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Sigh. Message-ID: Normally I don't need to reach for a box of tissues when doing a simple Unix command line task: [root at autox bin]# [root at autox bin]# ./remove_members --fromall -n tr3driver at ca.rr.com User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: fot. User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: the-local. User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: shop-talk. User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: triumphs. Thank you Randall Young for all you did for the lists, your steadfast support of Team Net and the Triumph community over the years.? You will be missed. mjb. From tr4abrad at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 12:12:15 2020 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:12:15 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Sigh. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark and all, I marveled for years at Randall?s knowledge of our beloved Triumphs. I may have met him at a singular SoCal club meeting in the mid-nineties but didn?t really connect with him until my Spitfire racer came up for sale in late 2017. He was there with Kas and I. He documented the day with his camera and sent me an image set I now cherish. Thank you and RIP Randall. Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > ? > Normally I don't need to reach for a box of tissues when doing a simple Unix command line task: > > [root at autox bin]# > [root at autox bin]# ./remove_members --fromall -n tr3driver at ca.rr.com > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: fot. > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: the-local. > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: shop-talk. > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: triumphs. > > > Thank you Randall Young for all you did for the lists, your steadfast support of Team Net and the Triumph community over the years. You will be missed. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 12:34:19 2020 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:34:19 -0700 Subject: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed In-Reply-To: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> References: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <37FA2E86-C2A0-49C8-8D6C-43C44A4CD98A@gmail.com> Dave, By steering link, assuming that is a vertical link. Important to know which one, right or left and if it?s Spitfire or GT6 as many have been upgraded. Hope he finds what he needs. Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:00 AM, dkettler1 at charter.net wrote: > > ? > All, > > I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side steering link for a Spitfire. Driver is a friend of Kent Prather so I am canvasing the list for Kent. > > Any help is appreciated. He would like to race this weekend. > > Thanks, > > Dave Kettler > 920-946-7491 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:54 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed On 7/24/20 11:00 AM, dkettler1 at charter.net wrote: > > All, > > I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side > steering link for a Spitfire. > What, exactly, is a 'steering link'?? Though I have a couple Spitfire parts cars in the yard I doubt I can get the exact piece removed and sent over a thousand miles away in time for the event. mjb. From bownes at seiri.com Fri Jul 24 15:03:31 2020 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:03:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Speaking of off topic... Message-ID: I've been cleaning out the garage and gave away a 64 Spit trans yesterday. I have left to get rid of: Spitfire 1500 trunk lid. stripped and ready to prime.paint on the top, original dark blue underneath. $100 obo Unknown 4 cylinder Land Rover engine left behind by Bill Calloccia when he went on ahead. $100 obo Both located in Troy, N.Y. You must pick up. I'd like for both of these to go to a good home. 100% of proceeds will go to funding team.net. Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkrantz77 at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 18:45:02 2020 From: rkrantz77 at comcast.net (Ron KRANTZ) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 20:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed In-Reply-To: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> References: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <396040643.81122.1595637903787@connect.xfinity.com> I have them but don't know how to get it to him in time. Ron Krantz Rek racing 248-917-7223 > On 07/24/2020 1:00 PM dkettler1 at charter.net wrote: > > > > All, > > > I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side steering link for a Spitfire. Driver is a friend of Kent Prather so I am canvasing the list for Kent. > > > Any help is appreciated. He would like to race this weekend. > > > Thanks, > > > Dave Kettler > > 920-946-7491 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkrantz77 at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 08:58:01 2020 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Odd Ball Parts In-Reply-To: <2123446860.6483712.1595861657920@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2123446860.6483712.1595861657920.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2123446860.6483712.1595861657920@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084082000.6489107.1595861881976@mail.yahoo.com> I am looking for an unusual part, and am hoping someone on the list can help me. As you know, there are 2 different kinds of lift-o-dot studs, one designed to screw into wood, like a wood screw, and the other meant to mount to metal with a machine thread and you put a nut on the back of it.? I am looking for the latter, with an unusually long threaded section.? The ones I have are a #10-32 thread and the threaded section is 9/16" long (picture attached).? I need some with a slightly longer threaded section (at least 3/4" long).? Would any of you happen to have any of these, or know where I might find some?? I need 4 of them. Thank you. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Picture - lift-o-dot stud1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1748428 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cak at dimebank.com Mon Jul 27 12:13:53 2020 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:13:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Odd Ball Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 7/27/20 11:00 AM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote: > As you know, there are 2 different kinds of lift-o-dot studs, one designed to screw into wood, like a wood screw, and the other meant to mount to metal with a machine thread and you put a nut on the back of it.? I am looking for the latter, with an unusually long threaded section.? The ones I have are a #10-32 thread and the threaded section is 9/16" long (picture attached).? I need some with a slightly longer threaded section (at least 3/4" long).? Would any of you happen to have any of these, or know where I might find some?? I need 4 of them. > > Thank you. > Jack I think you're looking for part 552670, as opposed to the 552669 that you have in hand. TRF's online system says they are in stock ... From john at linneyweb.com Tue Jul 28 11:15:02 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:15:02 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SD card and a question. Message-ID: <108E1C3D-5D2A-4D3A-A56F-8B68547D039F@linneyweb.com> Hi Jerry - I have your SD card from the 24A Spitfire of the Kastner cup race, but no return address. Where should I return it? Also, to tell the difference between father and son - who was driving which car and how should they be named? I currently have "Jerry L. Barker" for both the Spitfire and the Herald. Thanks for letting me have your video. -john John Linney https://classicmotorfilms.com YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/classicmotorfilms 408 887 8105 From quikrx at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 16:21:44 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] looking for a relay Chicago to Vermont References: <2121029193.6052255.1595974904146.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2121029193.6052255.1595974904146@mail.yahoo.com> have a fellow TR owner in Vermont who needs a round tail Spit hardtop in Chicago shipped to him in Vermont - any help or ideas appreciated - Fastenal said no, regular shippers quoted 1k or more - time is not critical at this time CheersRalph -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Jul 29 08:34:18 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 10:34:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Rambler wheels References: <97D40F6C-08CE-4945-8847-5B9F15F77649.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <97D40F6C-08CE-4945-8847-5B9F15F77649@aol.com> Back in the day, 15 inch, 4 x 4 1/2? bolt circle Rambler (Nash?) wheels were the hot set up. All steel, they were thicker, and hence stronger and stiffer (and heavier) than the stock TR wheels. I have a pair kicking around somewhere in the barn. If anyone is interested I?ll dig them out. Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 03:32:09 2020 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Vintage References: <2002863468.6957584.1596187929958.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2002863468.6957584.1596187929958@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, We had 5 Triumphs running with the Historic Race Group at Lime Rock last weekend. I shot some in-car on SAT for the points race: 2020 HRG LimeRock | | | | | | | | | | | 2020 HRG LimeRock | | | I had some great dices with the orange Porsche driven by Bobby Singh... There was some nice iron in the race group. Regards,Bob Lang339-927-4489 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hankgiffin at cox.net Fri Jul 31 10:01:00 2020 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:01:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR3 Roller still for sale Message-ID: <01a101d66753$cad6f580$6084e080$@cox.net> FOT, I still have the TR3 roller, really nice painted frame, and disassembled but ready to assemble engine. My shop is next to Abacus in VA Beach who can reassemble the engine. No reasonable offer refused. Will separate if necessary. Would like to see it back on the track. Give me a call and we can talk. Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 From: Fot On Behalf Of Henry Giffin via Fot Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:59 PM To: fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3 Roller for sale FOT, another Spring project for someone interested. I am selling the former Abacus Racing BRG TR3 (TS57917L). There was a video of Mike Jackson and Bill Thummel racing at Mid Ohio posted here earlier in the year. Bill won the race on Sat but Mike took it on Sunday. It has a ready to assemble engine and a non-overdrive gearbox, with stock TR3 rear end. It has 5 good panasport wheels. Abacus took a clean no rust street car and converted it for vintage racing in 1991. The SVRA logbook shows 28 races from 1991 to 1997. Abacus then took the engine and gearbox for their TR4. The car sat in a dry garage until I purchased it last year. I intended to make a race car for my son in law and my grandson, or even turn it back to a streetcar. I have since found some Turners that I think will be better for them, and the TR3 is now available with parts. I purchased a ready to assemble engine from Dave Spiwak and that will go with the car for what I paid Dave (list attached) It comes with a very nice sandblasted and painted TR3 frame. It has a New Mexico title. The car looks solid, and has a heavy sway bar in the front. All instruments are there, including an overdrive button on the steering wheel. There is a small dent in the left rear fender which looks like it can be banged out. I have a fiberglass tunnel. The roll bar includes door impact protection. Abacus was very successful with the car. More info and photos available. Roller and frame for $5500. Engine ready to assemble $5000 (pls see attachment - I paid $5K, Dave spent $7721), and the additional below parts I purchased from Dave ($535): Fidanza flywheel $200 Tilton clutch $150 Starter $70 Auto Pro Rev Limiter $15 Detroit Locker $100 I was quoted $1000 to $1500 for engine assembly by Abacus Machine shop. Car needs a fuel cell, tires, brake rebuild, and normal stuff done after a car has been sitting. Car, engine parts, and frame are in Va Bch. So everything totals $11,350. I prefer it all to go together. Anyone interested? Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TR3-4 Engine.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 288662 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I shot some in-car on SAT for the points race: > > 2020 HRG LimeRock > > 2020 HRG LimeRock > > > > > I had some great dices with the orange Porsche driven by Bobby Singh... > > There was some nice iron in the race group. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > 339-927-4489 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 15:42:45 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <624338679.7187909.1596231765147@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Michael, We are both using the Bastuck steel shim head gasket. ?We spray Hylomar sealant jointing compound on both sides of it before installing. ?Seems to work well, and doesn?t need the filing the steel shim?gasket in the Kastner competition manual requires. ? Mordy Dunst also makes a copper gasket that I guess works well, but I?ve never tried that one. ? I recently ordered a spare gasket right from Bastuck in Germany, it?s your best price for that with the current exchange rate by far at this point I believe! What are you running now? ?And compression ratio? ? I?m at 11:1... Hope that helps! Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Jul 31 15:47:19 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:47:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Need more information like bore and amount milled from the head. And your question is like asking what oil or brake fluid should I use. You?ll get a lot of responses and they all work for the responder so sort thru the advice and make a choice. From: mleccese1--- via Fot Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:27 PM To: fot at autox.team.net ; triumphsix at yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank you Michael L -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mleccese1 at verizon.net Fri Jul 31 15:50:27 2020 From: mleccese1 at verizon.net (mleccese1 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639@mail.yahoo.com> Not sure head gasket I will have to look thru my notes compression is 10.5 running 110 octane Thank you Michael L On Friday, July 31, 2020 David Gott wrote: Hi Michael, We are both using the Bastuck steel shim head gasket. ?We spray Hylomar sealant jointing compound on both sides of it before installing. ?Seems to work well, and doesn?t need the filing the steel shim?gasket in the Kastner competition manual requires. ? Mordy Dunst also makes a copper gasket that I guess works well, but I?ve never tried that one. ? I recently ordered a spare gasket right from Bastuck in Germany, it?s your best price for that with the current exchange rate by far at this point I believe! What are you running now? ?And compression ratio? ? I?m at 11:1... Hope that helps! Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 15:54:50 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639@mail.yahoo.com> References: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <71920195.10287203.1596232227639@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <202569139.7205769.1596232490053@mail.yahoo.com> Just be aware that if it?s more of a stock gasket you have now, the steel shim gasket may increase your compression a little bit, but you should be safe at that ratio I imagine.... Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:50 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Not sure head gasket I will have to look thru my notes compression is 10.5 running 110 octane Thank you Michael L On Friday, July 31, 2020 David Gott wrote: Hi Michael, We are both using the Bastuck steel shim head gasket. ?We spray Hylomar sealant jointing compound on both sides of it before installing. ?Seems to work well, and doesn?t need the filing the steel shim?gasket in the Kastner competition manual requires. ? Mordy Dunst also makes a copper gasket that I guess works well, but I?ve never tried that one. ? I recently ordered a spare gasket right from Bastuck in Germany, it?s your best price for that with the current exchange rate by far at this point I believe! What are you running now? ?And compression ratio? ? I?m at 11:1... Hope that helps! Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Jul 31 16:03:55 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 18:03:55 -0400 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Fwd: Triumphs Only, 40 year business, large inventory of cars and parts | eBay In-Reply-To: References: <067B6F36-37E6-4D1A-AE94-862BF5DAB764@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6B6F6A29D04846039F33DC4711CC5C83@VlackTK121647> I saw the ad and ask and wonder how the valuation is determined. There should be a list of assets and associated value before any lender would issue a loan which of course on used parts can be rather subjective. How long will it take to recover the investment? What?s the size of the market? Cost to move and inventory at a new warehouse. In the end in my opinion this will be a very difficult sale unless a collector with deep pockets just bellied up to the bar and makes an acceptable offer. JVV From: Tom Householder Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 4:04 PM To: FOT List Cc: TR3 Triumphs Subject: [TR] Fwd: Triumphs Only, 40 year business, large inventory of cars and parts | eBay Begin forwarded message: From: Gil Sissons Subject: Triumphs Only, 40 year business, large inventory of cars and parts | eBay Date: July 31, 2020 at 10:36:03 AM EDT To: Tom Householder Looks like Wayne has his collection back for sale on EBay..... FYI Gil https://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumphs-Only-40-year-business-large-inventory-of-cars-and-parts-/193308184304 Sent from my iPhone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Fri Jul 31 16:13:08 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:13:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87609229-0b2e-1ebc-d885-62b85297a669@tonydrews.com> If you want one that is tolerant of imperfect block / head / liner protrusion, Cometic part numberH0793SP4059F has worked best for me. Payen AE-330 composite used to be my go-to, but they changed hands and I changed liners and that didn't work for me anymore. This is an 0.059" thick, 91 mm bore gasket with round fire rings, but you need 91 mm bore even if your liners are smaller than that (mine are) due to the diameter of the hole in the head if you've milled ANYTHING off of it and opened up the intake pocket.? They make a thinner gasket and a 88 mm one, but the 88mm fire ring outer edge is inside the intake pocket on my head which has only been milled, no additional intake pocket relief ground.? Even at 91mm I have a little bit of the fire ring protruding into the combustion chamber.? I've not had it burn through - but the longest it stays on the engine is maybe a dozen races. If you have perfect block / head / liner protrusion, one of the solid gaskets (either steel shim or one of Mordy's awesome copper gaskets - gasketworks.com) will give you a bit more compression and you can make sure none of it protrudes into the combustion chamber.? We tried various solid gaskets on Jack's engines and always ended up blowing a head gasket and changing to a Payen AE-330 at the track.? We eventually just put the composite gasket in to begin with and stopped having to do that.? We got pretty good at it though - I think we had it down to about 1.5 hours. Regards, Tony Drews On 7/31/2020 4:27 PM, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote: > Phil, Dave, > > I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green > TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. > > Thank you > Michael L > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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ThanksMichael L -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack To: mleccese1 at verizon.net; fot at autox.team.net; triumphsix at yahoo.com Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 5:47 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Head Gasket Need more information like bore and amount milled from the head. And your question is like asking what oil or brake fluid should I use. You?ll get a lot of responses and they all work for the responder so sort thru the advice and make a choice.?From: mleccese1--- via Fot Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:27 PMTo: fot at autox.team.net ; triumphsix at yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket?Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gasket.works at gte.net Fri Jul 31 16:16:46 2020 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <837563775.10316385.1596233806963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <837563775.10316385.1596233806963@mail.yahoo.com> The very Best Head Gasket is the one that works.? Good luck.? Mordy? MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2 On?Friday, July 31, 2020,?Jerry Van Vlack via Fot??wrote: Need more information like bore and amount milled from the head. And your question is like asking what oil or brake fluid should I use. You?ll get a lot of responses and they all work for the responder so sort thru the advice and make a choice.?From: mleccese1--- via Fot Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:27 PMTo: fot at autox.team.net ; triumphsix at yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket?Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 16:24:20 2020 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1817540224.8589153.1596234260481@mail.yahoo.com> I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic.? I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head gasket.? I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1).? From day 1 it never really ran right.? I began to suspect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.? Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system.? That says bad head gasket or crack in the head.? Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket. I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.? A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.? I had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for it.? He encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.? It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses.? They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired.? I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.? It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one. I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great.? I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and haven't had a problem.? It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks.? By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.? I also used that.? A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.? Do not spray a thick coat.? Below is the link to the Cometic web site.? Check it out. Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure | | | | Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... | | | Jack On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gasket.works at gte.net Fri Jul 31 16:58:43 2020 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021@mail.yahoo.com> Copper hg?s not for everyone. ?Deck, head have to be flat, true. ?Anything more than .004? off??front to rear and you will have fitment issues. ?Knowing how?to use dressing us key. ? Can take two identical engines one built by a?periodic builder ?and one pro. ? Same parts . ?One will be built better and likely have a durable engine.? MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2 On?Friday, July 31, 2020,?Jack Wheeler via Fot??wrote: I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic.? I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head gasket.? I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1).? From day 1 it never really ran right.? I began to suspect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.? Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system.? That says bad head gasket or crack in the head.? Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket. I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.? A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.? I had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for it.? He encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.? It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses.? They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired.? I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.? It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one. I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great.? I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and haven't had a problem.? It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks.? By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.? I also used that.? A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.? Do not spray a thick coat.? Below is the link to the Cometic web site.? Check it out. Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure | | | | Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... | | | Jack On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 17:37:45 2020 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:37:45 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If the head gasket has a round bore it will leak on a heavily machined cylinder head because the combustion chamber around the intake valve will increase in radius and create the ""Mickey Mouse ear" that eliminates the contact area with the sealing ring on a round head gasket opening. Mordy makes my solid .030" copper annealed head gaskets for a .125" milled steel head and use copper wire fire rings above and below the gasket for added sealing. Coppercoat sprayed on several coats and 2 to 3 thousands liner protrusion. ARP hardware. On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 6:59 PM Mordy Dunst via Fot wrote: > Copper hg?s not for everyone. Deck, head have to be flat, true. Anything > more than .004? off front to rear and you will have fitment issues. > Knowing how to use dressing us key. Can take two identical engines one > built by a periodic builder and one pro. Same parts . One will be built > better and likely have a durable engine. > > MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 > Fax 626.628.3777 > Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 > T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 > > On Friday, July 31, 2020, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: > > > I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic. > I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head > gasket. I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in > the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1). From day > 1 it never really ran right. I began to suspect coolant was getting into > the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull > some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests > for hydrocarbons. Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant > system. That says bad head gasket or crack in the head. Since I'd had the > head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket. > > I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket. A guy at a > local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic. I had > never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so > surely they would not make a gasket for it. He encouraged me to check the > internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR > engine. It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for > different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different > thicknesses. They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the > thickness desired. I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket. It all sounded a > little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I > ordered one. > > I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and > suddenly the engine ran great. I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car > since then and haven't had a problem. It runs cool (even on 95 degree > days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks. > By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement. I > also used that. A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick. Do > not spray a thick coat. Below is the link to the Cometic web site. Check > it out. > > Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure > > Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure > > Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of > motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... > > Jack > > > > > > On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Phil, Dave, > > I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 > #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. > > Thank you > Michael L > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Jul 1 13:02:04 2020 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:02:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Video Cards to John Linney References: <5B750240-85B1-4BA2-B620-9D2BD52CC8FE.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <5B750240-85B1-4BA2-B620-9D2BD52CC8FE@cs.com> If you planned to send videos to John Linney, please do so very soon. Thank you very much. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From jeffsnook01 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 15:26:02 2020 From: jeffsnook01 at gmail.com (Jeff Snook) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 17:26:02 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results Message-ID: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: Jeff Snook 1:49 Mike Jackson 1:48 Neal Howard 2:00 Tim Studdard 1:59 John Fridirici 2:02 Bill Dentinger 2:03 Bud Babcock 2:03 Larry Young 2:14 Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! Vroom, vroom Jeff Snook 419-344-0319 www.snooksdreamcars.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Jul 1 15:46:29 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:46:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Looks quite similar to the times we were turning last weekend.? I made it into the 1:50's, some other faster guys made it into the 1:47's. Regards, Tony On 7/1/2020 4:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race > results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend.For some reason I > don't have the results from the K-Cup.I think I missed that race > because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left > front fender, and it must have been terminal.Remember how those > TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become > disassociated from the car!! > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best > lap time: > > Jeff Snook 1:49 > > Mike Jackson 1:48 > > Neal Howard 2:00 > > Tim Studdard 1:59 > > John Fridirici2:02 > > Bill Dentinger2:03 > > Bud Babcock2:03 > > Larry Young2:14 > > Mark Butterworth1:49 (from England) > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid > Cautious" these days! > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > Vroom, vroom > > Jeff Snook > > 419-344-0319 > > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmar823 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:11:34 2020 From: dmar823 at gmail.com (Don Marshall) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 18:11:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: Jeff, according to the All Triumph Race results, you finished 9th overall, and 2nd TR3 behind Mike. I found the results sheet at http://fot-racing.com/feature/2002midohio/resultsalltriumphrace.htm Don On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:26 PM Jeff Snook wrote: > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race > results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I > don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race > because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left > front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 > rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the > car!! > > > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap > time: > > Jeff Snook 1:49 > > Mike Jackson 1:48 > > Neal Howard 2:00 > > Tim Studdard 1:59 > > John Fridirici 2:02 > > Bill Dentinger 2:03 > > Bud Babcock 2:03 > > Larry Young 2:14 > > Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) > > > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid > Cautious" these days! > > > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > > > Vroom, vroom > > > > Jeff Snook > > 419-344-0319 > > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmar823 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Wed Jul 1 16:22:51 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 15:22:51 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, I was sure looking for you and was wondering why you weren't racing. A 1:49 with the keyhole chicane? That's incredible! I was amazed to see Mike Moore doing so well. I have noticed that some of his recent race results have been terrific. He's quiet on the list, but if you're listening, great driving, Mike. You looked very smooth. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: > Jeff Snook 1:49 > Mike Jackson 1:48 > Neal Howard 2:00 > Tim Studdard 1:59 > John Fridirici 2:02 > Bill Dentinger 2:03 > Bud Babcock 2:03 > Larry Young 2:14 > Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > Vroom, vroom > > Jeff Snook > 419-344-0319 > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 16:49:01 2020 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: <764917751.990506.1593643741959@mail.yahoo.com> Great going guys.? I checked my old results sheet from Mid Ohio in 1995.? The best I could do with slick tires was 1:46.4.? Your ;lap times are terrific on vintage tires. Jack On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:13:03 PM EDT, Don Marshall wrote: Jeff, according to the All Triumph Race results, you finished 9th overall, and 2nd TR3 behind Mike.?? I found the results sheet at?http://fot-racing.com/feature/2002midohio/resultsalltriumphrace.htm Don On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:26 PM Jeff Snook wrote: Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend.? For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup.? I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal.? Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! ? TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: Jeff Snook ??????? 1:49 Mike Jackson ????? 1:48 Neal Howard ?????? 2:00 Tim Studdard ????? 1:59 John Fridirici???? 2:02 Bill Dentinger???? 2:03 Bud Babcock??????? 2:03 Larry Young??????? 2:14 Mark Butterworth?? 1:49 (from England) ? Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! ? Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! ? Vroom, vroom ? Jeff Snook 419-344-0319 www.snooksdreamcars.com ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmar823 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at artwithcars.com Wed Jul 1 17:29:09 2020 From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:29:09 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mid Ohio 1992 VIDEO! Message-ID: <9EE1F5B8-3525-47A3-AD4B-C7418E87BD52@artwithcars.com> Here?s rare archival video from the 1992 event, I believe Reg Bardon shot this footage. When I hit the oil it felt like a skating rink! https://youtu.be/lAIQpkE6KwQ ~Steve Belfer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr3a58dean at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 18:19:45 2020 From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:19:45 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com>, <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 1 18:48:47 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:48:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com>, <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I think George landed on his lid too when that happened. From: Dean Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:19 PM To: Tony Drews ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results I was there with my TR3 but did not run on Sunday. George Wright broke a rear hub and lost a wheel. I think that was on Friday or Sat morning. Dean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tony Drews Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:47 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results Looks quite similar to the times we were turning last weekend. I made it into the 1:50's, some other faster guys made it into the 1:47's. Regards, Tony On 7/1/2020 4:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: Jeff Snook 1:49 Mike Jackson 1:48 Neal Howard 2:00 Tim Studdard 1:59 John Fridirici 2:02 Bill Dentinger 2:03 Bud Babcock 2:03 Larry Young 2:14 Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! Vroom, vroom Jeff Snook 419-344-0319 www.snooksdreamcars.com _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Jul 1 19:41:04 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:41:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <8fbfa238-3453-5b2c-bb4d-d70a3566facb@tonydrews.com> Most certainly.? I stopped to see if I could help lift the car or something but he had gotten out by the time I got there. Tony On 7/1/2020 7:48 PM, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > I think George landed on his lid too when that happened. > *From:* Dean > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:19 PM > *To:* Tony Drews ; fot at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results > > I was there with my TR3 but did not run on Sunday. George Wright broke > a rear hub and lost a wheel. I think that was on Friday or Sat morning. > > Dean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Tony Drews > *Sent: *Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:47 PM > *To: *fot at autox.team.net > *Subject: *Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results > > Looks quite similar to the times we were turning last weekend.? I made > it into the 1:50's, some other faster guys made it into the 1:47's. > > Regards, Tony > > On 7/1/2020 4:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 > race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend.? For > some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup.? I think I > missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me > in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been > terminal.? Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and > allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and > best lap time: > > Jeff Snook???????? 1:49 > > Mike Jackson?????? 1:48 > > Neal Howard??????? 2:00 > > Tim Studdard?????? 1:59 > > John Fridirici???? 2:02 > > Bill Dentinger???? 2:03 > > Bud Babcock??????? 2:03 > > Larry Young??????? 2:14 > > Mark Butterworth?? 1:49 (from England) > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being > "Covid Cautious" these days! > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > Vroom, vroom > > Jeff Snook > > 419-344-0319 > > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive:http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Thu Jul 2 09:44:34 2020 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Ginevra TR5 References: <28871156.1576406.1593704674662.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <28871156.1576406.1593704674662@mail.yahoo.com> Amici... I guess I always knew there must have been a TR5, I just did not know anything about it until this morning. Then on Facebook, a post touting Edgardo Michelotti's birthday, was a picture? of 'Ginevra', the TR5. Very pretty car, albeit a tad 'civil' by TR standards. Like the Sabrina Engines used at LeMan...I wonder why it never made it to the cars sold to the public. Bill Dentinger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Jul 2 11:24:00 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:24:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Message-ID: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews From trmarty at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 11:39:16 2020 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 17:39:16 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Good question. I lost my canopy to the wind at Mid-Ohio. Marty Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=Hat1PklaIIAcPvpEENE2cq08md%2FsSqxvowStm4WQr48%3D&reserved=0 Donate: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=%2FVT%2Bl3UDOTrONLi7BPiiI33C7LiXHyFiY5s5Hsb1O70%3D&reserved=0 Archive: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=%2BkRtm1mSP6Kszq%2FQ11OrPnaeEq9XpzMrsqRDSqeQdjg%3D&reserved=0 https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=rL9aGD7GKiC%2F6F727rBuhUKWzBWWgEi5BMzfFeSsxYk%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe/Manage: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Ftrmarty1%40gmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=WTIgi9RZLz6Fj2L0JGwBfYzYrg6hEc6%2FaFJ2YUtDNUM%3D&reserved=0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jul 2 11:49:09 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 11:49:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: On 7/2/20 11:24 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle > wind and rain? Good question.? When I was doing IVR out at Wendover, every race weekend you could count on at least 2 or 3 canopies getting trashed by the winds that came screaming across the Salt Flats. Too bad one weekend it was mine that was one of the casualties, one of the anchor straps tied to the weight, 5 gallon water jug, came loose and it went for a couple hundred foot flight.? And lightweight, foldable lawn chairs also had a very high mortality rate. Ah yes, good old WINDover, Utah. mjb. From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Jul 2 12:28:08 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 13:28:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Tony, After spending a couple hundred bucks on the $30-$50 varieties, I bought a Coleman Beach canopy. Going on 3 years of south Texas beach use and the occasional race weekend. It?s windy and Texas and it?s held up. Of course I always use good anchors. Coleman Instant Beach Canopy, 10 x 10 Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0038XPNPS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_itGvsa6TNeyYO Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > From bfloyd6677 at aol.com Thu Jul 2 12:32:43 2020 From: bfloyd6677 at aol.com (bfloyd6677) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:32:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice.? Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Tony Drews Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain?Thanks, Tony Drews_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awashatko at wi.rr.com Thu Jul 2 12:33:30 2020 From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 13:33:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: See Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Jul 2 12:52:44 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 18:52:44 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. Scott (B) From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews > Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com Thu Jul 2 13:00:25 2020 From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 19:00:25 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> Message-ID: I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) You can also get replacement parts if needed. For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th Street Erie, PA 16506 Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100 Fax: 888-865-5279 Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. Scott (B) From: Fot > On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM To: Tony Drews >; Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews > Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Jul 2 13:16:58 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:16:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <8f124dbf-bcac-df13-c92e-caa7e247a75c@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> <1924244355.340723.1593716621075@mail.yahoo.com> <8f124dbf-bcac-df13-c92e-caa7e247a75c@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Resend - too many recipients... On 7/2/2020 2:13 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > Don't you get water pooling in the canopy itself when it rains?? I do > with my heavy EZ-up brand ones.? It did stay in place at Mid-O, just > filled with water.? But I've had the anchor point in one corner break > due to wind at another event.? Seems like it needs a vent in the top > to let the wind out to keep the wind load down. > > - Tony > > On 7/2/2020 2:03 PM, David Gott wrote: >> +1 for what Mike said. ?I have an easy up canopy that I didn?t have >> strapped down and blew across an airfield at an autocross. ?Bought >> two new crossbars and that was over 10 years ago that I had the >> incident. ?It?s getting a little tired from wear, but I?ve had it 15 >> years or so. ? Held up at Mid Ohio with it strapped to the trailer, a >> tire, and my overly heavy trailer hitch bar. >> >> Dave G >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> >> >> On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 3:00 PM, Michael Moore >> wrote: >> >> I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one >> survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing >> (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) >> >> You can also get replacement parts if needed. >> >> For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a >> bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands >> wind really well. >> >> Thanks >> >> Mike >> >> Michael T. Moore, CPA >> >> 3255 West 26^th Street >> >> Erie, PA 16506 >> >> Phone: 814-616-8652? ext 100 >> >> Fax: 888-865-5279 >> >> Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com >> >> This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally >> privileged information intended only for the use of the >> recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended >> recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, >> distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly >> prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender >> immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. >> >> *From:*Fot *On Behalf Of *Barr, Scott >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM >> *To:* bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews >> ; Amici Triumphi >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive >> canopy.? You get what you pay for, I suppose. >> >> Scott (B) >> >> *From:*Fot > > *On Behalf Of *bfloyd6677 >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM >> *To:* Tony Drews > >; Amici Triumphi > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice.? Just ordered a >> second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. >> >> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable >> smartphone >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> >> From: Tony Drews > >> >> Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) >> >> To: Amici Triumphi > >> >> Subject: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually >> handle wind >> and rain? >> >> Thanks, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Jul 2 13:59:16 2020 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:59:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Canopy question References: <267B2EFF-E304-4B26-8B87-032855D5EB56@att.net> Message-ID: <9B692BB9-0A4D-413B-AB2E-42DF61BFD90B@att.net> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Paul Ricco > Date: July 2, 2020 at 2:58:38 PM CDT > To: Michael Moore > Cc: "Barr, Scott" , bfloyd6677 , Tony Drews , Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > ?We have had excellent success with the Mid-High level Canopies from Eurmax. Ours have the hex shaped telescoping legs. > > 1. Very sturdy and well built. > 2. All parts are available for replacement. So you do not have to toss them if one part gets damaged. > 3. Good choice of stock colors > 4. Free shipping. > > Ours are 5 years old and we have not had any issues. They have been out in some big storms. > > We did buy some really have duty stakes that are 18? long and we use ratchet tie downs to secure it to the stakes. > > Good luck. > > Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jul 2, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Michael Moore wrote: >>> >> ? >> I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) >> >> You can also get replacement parts if needed. >> >> For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> Michael T. Moore, CPA >> 3255 West 26th Street >> Erie, PA 16506 >> >> Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100 >> Fax: 888-865-5279 >> Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com >> >> This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. >> >> >> >> From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott >> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM >> To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. >> >> Scott (B) >> >> From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM >> To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. >> >> >> >> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Tony Drews >> Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Amici Triumphi >> Subject: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind >> and rain? >> >> Thanks, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 6t9gt6 at toast.net Thu Jul 2 14:08:21 2020 From: 6t9gt6 at toast.net (Stephen Jones) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 16:08:21 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Securing an EZup. Message-ID: >From Stephen Jones Most EZups are a disaster waiting to happen in a wind of more than 8-10 mph. A 15-20 mph gust will have you chasing it down the paddock unless well secured. A 12 mile per hour wind will generate 86lbs of force/sq.Ft. x the area of the covering. So a 12x12 EZup. could generate up to 1032 lbs of force. Just securing it with 25 lb weights is unworthy of the pressure created by the wind.( If you are a sailor, you know what a little gust can do.) As mentioned in previous posts, start with 5 gallon water buckets (8.3 lbs/gallon) at each corner, and tie it taunt to the upper frame of the EZup. Helps if you know your proper knots. This helps transfer the wind force to the ground. Just weighting the foot is inefficient because much of the force is wasted just holding down the ground. Gravity has that covered. The next step is to secure topside belly lines over the EZup. Use separate buckets, (or alternative tie off ) and place them at the corners. Toss lines diagonally over the top and secure them tight. This will reduce the billowing effect of the wind and the pressure. You can also tie to a car or?? but it really gets displeasing and embarrassingly hilarious when someone makes the beer run with the EZup in tow. For the engineer nerds, and there are many among us go to: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wind-load-d_1775.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Thu Jul 2 14:12:48 2020 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 20:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Canopy question References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> I always thought the?EZ-up Canopy was convenient,?looked nice, but was wimpy. ?Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. ?We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. ?We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). ?Serious stuff. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On?Thursday, July 2, 2020,?Allen Washatko??wrote: See Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu Jul 2 14:33:31 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 16:33:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Securing an EZup. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I once saw a photo of a tractor trailer race rig canopy that had been tied down to golf carts with ratchet straps at each post. There was a wind/rain storm and the entire canopy, 3-4 golf carts included, flipped over the top of the trailer and the carts were hanging by the straps on the other side. My takeaway is that in the event of a big wind, take down the canopy. Nothing will secure it in a really big blow. On Jul 2, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Stephen Jones <6t9gt6 at toast.net> wrote: From Stephen Jones Most EZups are a disaster waiting to happen in a wind of more than 8-10 mph. A 15-20 mph gust will have you chasing it down the paddock unless well secured. A 12 mile per hour wind will generate 86lbs of force/sq.Ft. x the area of the covering. So a 12x12 EZup. could generate up to 1032 lbs of force. Just securing it with 25 lb weights is unworthy of the pressure created by the wind.( If you are a sailor, you know what a little gust can do.) As mentioned in previous posts, start with 5 gallon water buckets (8.3 lbs/gallon) at each corner, and tie it taunt to the upper frame of the EZup. Helps if you know your proper knots. This helps transfer the wind force to the ground. Just weighting the foot is inefficient because much of the force is wasted just holding down the ground. Gravity has that covered. The next step is to secure topside belly lines over the EZup. Use separate buckets, (or alternative tie off ) and place them at the corners. Toss lines diagonally over the top and secure them tight. This will reduce the billowing effect of the wind and the pressure. You can also tie to a car or?? but it really gets displeasing and embarrassingly hilarious when someone makes the beer run with the EZup in tow. For the engineer nerds, and there are many among us go to: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wind-load-d_1775.html _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Jul 2 14:34:24 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:34:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement.? Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ.? I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms. Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup.? It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn.? Also water pools in the canopy.? But it's great for shading from the sun.? The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection.? :) What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up.? The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though.? Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment.? Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run. - Tony On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: > I always thought the?EZ-up Canopy was convenient,?looked nice, but was > wimpy. ?Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. > > We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for > poles. ?We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. ?We used HD > stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). > ?Serious stuff. > > Bill Dentinger > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On?Thursday, July 2, 2020,?Allen Washatko??wrote: > > See Paul Ricco > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews > wrote: > > > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually > handle wind and rain? > > > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Thu Jul 2 14:47:26 2020 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:47:26 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> In many years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I?ve gone through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them down enough the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much gave up since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with fabricated corners that attaches to the trailer like Jason Ostrowski?s. It?s pretty impressive how much wind it can take. We get some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the rockies. Jim g From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM To: Bill Dentinger Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement. Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ. I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms. Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup. It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn. Also water pools in the canopy. But it's great for shading from the sun. The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection. :) What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up. The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though. Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment. Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run. - Tony On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but was wimpy. Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). Serious stuff. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Thursday, July 2, 2020, Allen Washatko wrote: See Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews > wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponobill at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 15:24:41 2020 From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:24:41 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <984C25C8-4EC4-429B-A9A1-1B6DB7334E35@ponostyle.com> I live in the Columbia Gorge, one of the windiest inland places on earth. People who don?t live here come and set up their EZ Ups with stakes, buckets of concrete, dirt screws, whatever. If the wind comes up to what we call ?nuking? the canopy will wind up somewhere in Idaho. The power of the wind increases as the square of velocity. You could get a Cirque de Soleil style circus tent and a crew of twenty to stake it down, or just take your EZ down. EZ-up--EZ down. If I?m using it as a car cover I lower it and tie it to the roll bar. So far, Peyote hasn?t blown to any nearby states. Nothing i know will prevent the canopy from dumping a bucket of ice cold water down your back when you?re trying to push the water belly out with a broom. > On Jul 2, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > > In many years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I?ve gone through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them down enough > the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much gave up since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with fabricated corners > that attaches to the trailer like Jason Ostrowski?s. It?s pretty impressive how much wind it can take. > We get some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the rockies. > Jim g > > From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM > To: Bill Dentinger > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement. Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ. I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms. > Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup. It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn. Also water pools in the canopy. But it's great for shading from the sun. The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection. :) > What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up. The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though. Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment. Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run. > - Tony > On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: >> I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but was wimpy. Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. >> >> We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). Serious stuff. >> >> Bill Dentinger >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >> >> On Thursday, July 2, 2020, Allen Washatko wrote: >> >>> See Paul Ricco >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews > wrote: >>> > >>> > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? >>> > >>> > Thanks, Tony Drews >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fot at autox.team.net >>> > >>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>> > >>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive? http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive? http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Packs down into a smaller bundle than an EZup. -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of fot-request at autox.team.net Sent: 02 July 2020 19:00 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 216 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's why hurricanes and tornadoes are so damned destructive. *Total wind power, P_t = (?AC_i ^3 )/2* Where, ? = density of air A = swept area perpendicular to wind direction C_i = incoming wind velocity Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's why hurricanes and tornadoes are so damned destructive. Total wind power, Pt = (?ACi3)/2 ? Where, ? = density of air A = swept area perpendicular to wind direction Ci = incoming wind velocity Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Thu Jul 2 13:03:41 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 19:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1924244355.340723.1593716621075@mail.yahoo.com> +1 for what Mike said. ?I have an easy up canopy that I didn?t have strapped down and blew across an airfield at an autocross. ?Bought two new crossbars and that was over 10 years ago that I had the incident. ?It?s getting a little tired from wear, but I?ve had it 15 years or so. ? Held up at Mid Ohio with it strapped to the trailer, a tire, and my overly heavy trailer hitch bar. Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 3:00 PM, Michael Moore wrote: #yiv4576275516 #yiv4576275516 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv4576275516 #yiv4576275516 p.yiv4576275516MsoNormal, #yiv4576275516 li.yiv4576275516MsoNormal, #yiv4576275516 div.yiv4576275516MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv4576275516 a:link, #yiv4576275516 span.yiv4576275516MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4576275516 .yiv4576275516MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv4576275516 div.yiv4576275516WordSection1 {}#yiv4576275516 I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) ? You can also get replacement parts if needed. ? For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. ? Thanks Mike ? Michael T. Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th Street Erie, PA 16506 ? Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 Email:???mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com ? This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. ? ? ? From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question ? Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy.? You get what you pay for, I suppose. ? Scott (B) ? From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question ? Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice.? Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. ? ? ? Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone ? ? -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Canopy question ? Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archivehttp://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Jul 2 13:58:38 2020 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:58:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <267B2EFF-E304-4B26-8B87-032855D5EB56@att.net> We have had excellent success with the Mid-High level Canopies from Eurmax. Ours have the hex shaped telescoping legs. 1. Very sturdy and well built. 2. All parts are available for replacement. So you do not have to toss them if one part gets damaged. 3. Good choice of stock colors 4. Free shipping. Ours are 5 years old and we have not had any issues. They have been out in some big storms. We did buy some really have duty stakes that are 18? long and we use ratchet tie downs to secure it to the stakes. Good luck. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Michael Moore wrote: > > ? > I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) > > You can also get replacement parts if needed. > > For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 3255 West 26th Street > Erie, PA 16506 > > Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100 > Fax: 888-865-5279 > Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com > > This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. > > > > From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM > To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. > > Scott (B) > > From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM > To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. 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Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th Street Erie, PA 16506 Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 Email:??? mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 4:42 PM To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] In car videos from Mid-Ohio races last weekend Here are my in-car videos.? Both races were a good time. Kas Cup Sat: https://youtu.be/NHjsgbK5cc4 Sun feature: https://youtu.be/rjeIgYtMVM4 Regards, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com From tony at tonydrews.com Sat Jul 4 13:04:59 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 14:04:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] In car videos from Mid-Ohio races last weekend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No sheet, but have the results from the "Race Monitor" app that SVRA feeds.? Screenshots from my phone attached... Regards, Tony On 7/4/2020 1:31 PM, Michael Moore wrote: > Anybody have a time sheet from Sundays race they can post > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 3255 West 26th Street > Erie, PA 16506 > > Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 > Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 > Email:??? mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com > > This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews > Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 4:42 PM > To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] In car videos from Mid-Ohio races last weekend > > Here are my in-car videos.? 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If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. From: Fot On Behalf Of David Gott Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 PM To: Michael Porter ; Ponostyle ; Jim Gray Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question *takes notes, applies to TR4 top speed* LOL Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:52 PM, Michael Porter > wrote: On 7/2/2020 3:24 PM, Ponostyle wrote: The power of the wind increases as the square of velocity. Umm, actually, wind power increases with the cube of the velocity. Double the wind speed and the power goes up by a factor of eight. It's why hurricanes and tornadoes are so damned destructive. Total wind power, Pt = (?ACi3)/2 Where, ? = density of air A = swept area perpendicular to wind direction Ci = incoming wind velocity Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhassall at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 13:07:33 2020 From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:07:33 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Help pls: shirt order Message-ID: Amici, Ted needs a Men's Medium shirt. If anyone received a Men's Medium which they didn't order, or if anyone has one extra they're willing to send to Ted, pls contact him. Ted's # is 419.384.3022. Thanks! jim -- W4BEA The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson I sometimes feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entertained is totally the way to go! ;-) J. Stoll -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 14:06:08 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:06:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Help pls: shirt order In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I need an XL. There has been some discussion of another run. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 6, 2020, at 2:08 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > > ? > Amici, > Ted needs a Men's Medium shirt. If anyone received a Men's Medium which they didn't order, or if anyone has one extra they're willing to send to Ted, pls contact him. Ted's # is 419.384.3022. > > Thanks! > > jim > > -- > W4BEA > > The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. > Thomas Jefferson > > I sometimes feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entertained is totally the way to go! ;-) > J. Stoll > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 Begin forwarded message: > From: James J Dolan > Date: July 7, 2020 at 8:40:35 AM CDT > To: Joe Alexander > Subject: Collecting videos > > ? > Joe, > We need to make an effort to get some of the drivers race video footage. > I looked at the video I returned to Linney with the cameras and there is not much good in there, other than the 360 camera. > I mailed him a card with my footage today. > No one returned the yellow sheets to me with cards. Maybe they mailed them directly, but I think we should remind them to send stuff to John. > > Can we put out an email to the racers to send him video? > Tony Drews, Sam, Alex in the white GT6 gridded in 2nd and 3rd had front and rear cameras. > These drivers offer up some video footage and get themselves in the movie. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?d like to show every battle and pass that I can, not just the leader action. I really appreciate every effort to get me what you can. If you send me footage you WILL be in the movie. Many thanks. -john John Linney Classic Motor Films https://classicmotorfilms.com 408 887 8105 > On Jul 7, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > ? > FOT Kastner Cup Racers: > > We need racers to send in their in car videos for the Kastner Cup Documentary that is being done by Motorsports Films (John Linney). See Jim Dolan?s appeal below. > > This is a very significant effort. > > It will also include an audio interview with Kas, some past footage, and descriptions of drivers and cars. > > It may also find its way to a monitor at the newly formed British Sports Car Museum. > > Seal your place in history by getting your videos in. John is working feverishly, but Covid free. > > Thank you. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: James J Dolan >> Date: July 7, 2020 at 8:40:35 AM CDT >> To: Joe Alexander >> Subject: Collecting videos >> >> ? >> Joe, >> We need to make an effort to get some of the drivers race video footage. >> I looked at the video I returned to Linney with the cameras and there is not much good in there, other than the 360 camera. >> I mailed him a card with my footage today. >> No one returned the yellow sheets to me with cards. Maybe they mailed them directly, but I think we should remind them to send stuff to John. >> >> Can we put out an email to the racers to send him video? >> Tony Drews, Sam, Alex in the white GT6 gridded in 2nd and 3rd had front and rear cameras. >> These drivers offer up some video footage and get themselves in the movie. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 12:09:55 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:09:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? Message-ID: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. Sean, Tony? Anyone? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From kkjjk at aol.com Tue Jul 7 12:22:16 2020 From: kkjjk at aol.com (JAY DE POL) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:22:16 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? In-Reply-To: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D6BF0A0-8588-495B-8CC9-A345ED4BABFB@aol.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 836832 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 801737 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1347599894.1826943.1594146416308@mail.yahoo.com> This isn?t ideal, but it?s off of my Speedhive/Mylaps account: https://speedhive.mylaps.com/Sessions/5776298#all-results? Grid sheets were hard to get as they weren?t posted due to COVID..I hope that helps! Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 2:10 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. Sean, Tony? Anyone? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Jul 7 12:27:01 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:27:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? In-Reply-To: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59546f4d-7180-8e86-33f3-ded3c84c6f7f@tonydrews.com> Screenshots attached. Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:09 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. > > Sean, Tony? Anyone? > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200703_161041000_iOS.png Type: image/png Size: 582799 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <8DC2A983-995F-43B5-AA78-7EDA7E6FE189@gmail.com> References: <8DC2A983-995F-43B5-AA78-7EDA7E6FE189@gmail.com> Message-ID: Be sure to use a version sorted by lap time, not by finishing order.? Jay's screenshots show finishing order - I thought I qualified 7th until I found the button to flip it to time order. My screenshots are in time order.? Not picking on Jay! Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:44 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > From rick.parent at att.net Tue Jul 7 14:58:47 2020 From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 20:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? In-Reply-To: <59546f4d-7180-8e86-33f3-ded3c84c6f7f@tonydrews.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> <59546f4d-7180-8e86-33f3-ded3c84c6f7f@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <201669665.1906519.1594155527478@mail.yahoo.com> I assume you are talking about Saturdays race? If so the grid was set by the best times of the qualifying session, see below. Also see the attached grid sheet by car number for the grid guys. If you want the grid sheet for Sundays race it was set by the finishing position from Saturdays race. General (Mad Dog) Mattis"Be prepared to reverse decisions as new data comes in, then replace assumptions?with knowledge" On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 02:32:55 PM EDT, Tony Drews wrote: Screenshots attached. Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:09 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. > > Sean, Tony? 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I didn't realize you could do that!-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2020 2:50 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Qualifying. Thanks. What a group! Got it....from several sources. Be sure to use a version sorted by lap time, not by finishing order.? Jay's screenshots show finishing order - I thought I qualified 7th until I found the button to flip it to time order. My screenshots are in time order.? Not picking on Jay! 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I?m going to preserve as much of the period look and set up as possible and run it in the historic group in CVAR in Texas and future FoT events. I?m not going to restore it, just freshen the mechanical and safety bits. I?m even going to keep the awful paint job that was literally put on with a brush. That?s character that you can?t re-create. And my apologies, the FOT that helped me is Jim Dooley, sorry for getting your name wrong. Dusty Nicholson > On Jun 23, 2020, at 9:01 PM, dustin nicholson wrote: > > ?Amici, > > Does anyone know this car? I bought it today in St. Louis and know a little bit of the history but I?m hoping someone on the list will remember it and can tell me more. > > It was very competitive in SCCA Midwest in the 60s and early 70s. Ran in the American Road Race of Champions (Runoffs) in 1966 at Riverside and again in 1969 at Daytona. That was the last year it was held at Daytona before moving to Road Atlanta. The car DNF?d after 14 laps with the 7th fastest lap time. Pretty good for a 14-year-old car. The race and therefore championship was won in 16 laps by the ex-Tim Suddard Group 44 GT6. > > Driver/builder/owner was Bill Boemler. No logbook remains. The only other race I know of was at Garnett in 1972, but obviously it raced a lot more than these three races that I know of. It?s believed to have stopped racing around that 1972 race and has practically not been touched since. It?s in rough shape but is a time capsule for how a car was prepped 50 years ago. The car had the nickname ?The Flying Bedstead? due to its unique role bar. > > Attached is a photo of it at Daytona in 1969 and a photo of it now. > > Sidenote 1: The Vin number is the 15th TR3 and was likely made on the first day TR3?s went into production. > > Sidenote 2: The seller had a Triumph buddy with him today to help unload my FP spitfire that was part of the deal, and load up the TR3. That buddy turned out to be FOT! 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John Davies Lancaster UK (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of fot-request at autox.team.net Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." From john at linneyweb.com Wed Jul 8 09:31:14 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 08:31:14 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> References: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <71DA2F9C-03B9-4405-A6D7-4F27CC84EF1D@linneyweb.com> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies wrote: > > ?FAO John Linney, > John, > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I > hope he has more! > > John Davies > Lancaster UK > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot On Behalf Of > fot-request at autox.team.net > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 > > Send Fot mailing list submissions to > fot at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fot-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fot-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com > > > From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:21:26 2020 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:21:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: <71DA2F9C-03B9-4405-A6D7-4F27CC84EF1D@linneyweb.com> References: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> <71DA2F9C-03B9-4405-A6D7-4F27CC84EF1D@linneyweb.com> Message-ID: I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney wrote: > Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m > incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john > > > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies > wrote: > > > > ?FAO John Linney, > > John, > > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for > as > > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their > > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being > > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I > > hope he has more! > > > > John Davies > > Lancaster UK > > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fot On Behalf Of > > fot-request at autox.team.net > > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 > > To: fot at autox.team.net > > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 > > > > Send Fot mailing list submissions to > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > fot-request at autox.team.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > fot-owner at autox.team.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 13:00:32 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:00:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <256E54CA-C235-4FBC-BF98-D9F2298FE247@gmail.com> Lessons Learned. We should have been doing Bio and Provenance sheets early on in the Kastner Cup Series. Next year? Thanks Shawn Frank, Media Maven. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: > > ? > I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on > > www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs > > and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. > > I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. > > I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... > > Shawn Frank > The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor > North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner > Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead > Continued Legacy Photo - Owner > Iowa British Car Club > FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 > Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver > 515-339-4228 > > > '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" > '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 > '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney wrote: >> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john >> >> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies wrote: >> > >> > ?FAO John Linney, >> > John, >> > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as >> > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their >> > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being >> > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I >> > hope he has more! >> > >> > John Davies >> > Lancaster UK >> > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Fot On Behalf Of >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 >> > To: fot at autox.team.net >> > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 >> > >> > Send Fot mailing list submissions to >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > fot-owner at autox.team.net >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Wed Jul 8 13:55:46 2020 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:55:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] RMVR Race Against Kids Cancer Message-ID: <00ba01d65561$c5b12d40$511387c0$@comcast.net> If anyone is looking for a race next month our biggest race of the year RAKC is August 1st & 2nd at High Plains Raceway. So far there are 33 small bore cars signed up including six Triumphs. If you happen to be in the neighborhood we'd love to have you. http://rmvr.com/ https://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.status/uidEvent/D84F5E43 -9BCA-73E1-C4D003DCAFE61BAE https://www.highplainsraceway.com/ Jim Gray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at linneyweb.com Thu Jul 9 10:45:59 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:45:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: <256E54CA-C235-4FBC-BF98-D9F2298FE247@gmail.com> References: <256E54CA-C235-4FBC-BF98-D9F2298FE247@gmail.com> Message-ID: The FOT web site would seem to be the perfect long-term place for bios - a page per driver? -john > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > Lessons Learned. We should have been doing Bio and Provenance sheets early on in the Kastner Cup Series. > > Next year? > > Thanks Shawn Frank, Media Maven. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: >> >> ? >> I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on >> >> www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs >> >> and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. >> >> I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. >> >> I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... >> >> Shawn Frank >> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor >> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner >> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead >> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner >> Iowa British Car Club >> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 >> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver >> 515-339-4228 >> >> >> '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" >> '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 >> '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney > wrote: >> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john >> >> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies > wrote: >> > >> > ?FAO John Linney, >> > John, >> > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as >> > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their >> > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being >> > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I >> > hope he has more! >> > >> > John Davies >> > Lancaster UK >> > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Fot > On Behalf Of >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 >> > To: fot at autox.team.net >> > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 >> > >> > Send Fot mailing list submissions to >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > fot-owner at autox.team.net >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Thu Jul 9 16:11:42 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:11:42 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <740A3DF8-D690-40CE-A464-8F3676E20A5B@aol.com> See the HRG ?cars and Drivers? pages. Mike Harmuth has done a good job of making bios entertaining reading! https://historicracinggroup.com/cars-and-driver-info.php Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:47 PM, John Linney wrote: > > ?The FOT web site would seem to be the perfect long-term place for bios - a page per driver? -john > >> On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> >> Lessons Learned. We should have been doing Bio and Provenance sheets early on in the Kastner Cup Series. >> >> Next year? >> >> Thanks Shawn Frank, Media Maven. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on >>> >>> www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs >>> >>> and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. >>> >>> I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. >>> >>> I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... >>> >>> Shawn Frank >>> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor >>> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner >>> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead >>> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner >>> Iowa British Car Club >>> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 >>> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver >>> 515-339-4228 >>> >>> >>> '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" >>> '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 >>> '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney wrote: >>>> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john >>>> >>>> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies wrote: >>>> > >>>> > ?FAO John Linney, >>>> > John, >>>> > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as >>>> > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their >>>> > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being >>>> > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I >>>> > hope he has more! >>>> > >>>> > John Davies >>>> > Lancaster UK >>>> > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: Fot On Behalf Of >>>> > fot-request at autox.team.net >>>> > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 >>>> > To: fot at autox.team.net >>>> > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 >>>> > >>>> > Send Fot mailing list submissions to >>>> > fot at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> > fot-request at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> > fot-owner at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >>>> > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > fot at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> > >>>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Fri Jul 10 08:13:01 2020 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:13:01 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Help ID this shop References: Message-ID: <68A03DC3-4236-4645-8813-7B7B40FC604C@columbus.rr.com> > Metal worker maybe a radiator shop doing repair on chromed brass grille? Jack?s Lomdom > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Grill Manufactur's Plate stamped 21.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 93071 bytes Desc: not available URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 08:03:31 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:03:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5329DA11-CBE0-4505-8C67-726F4DA5163C@gmail.com> This is a Triumph Service Announcement (TSA). From Kas. Attention Texas FOT in particular. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Kas Kastner > Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:09 AM > Subject: New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. > To: for at autox.team.net > > > Mke Downs , the 1967 Daytona Runnoffs Champion with the Group 44 Triumph GT-6 Mikehas moved his complete race/ restoration shop to TEXAS. Yup, he moved from Sonoma California where he specialized in Vintage Car restoration, repairs, assembly, manufacturing, any and all parts. > > In New Braunfels Texas Mike is close to the racing action and will be happy to chat with you on your racing and restoration problems. By the way Mike is a really nice man too. How could it get better. Give Mike at a call at 830-312-7740. > Never be beaten by equipment. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Sat Jul 11 13:44:57 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:44:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. In-Reply-To: <5329DA11-CBE0-4505-8C67-726F4DA5163C@gmail.com> References: <5329DA11-CBE0-4505-8C67-726F4DA5163C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Right down the street, at least the way we measure down here. Will have to make a trip down to visit him soon. Thanks for sharing. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 11, 2020, at 9:07 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > ? > This is a Triumph Service Announcement (TSA). From Kas. > > Attention Texas FOT in particular. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kas Kastner >> Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:09 AM >> Subject: New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. >> To: for at autox.team.net >> >> >> Mke Downs , the 1967 Daytona Runnoffs Champion with the Group 44 Triumph GT-6 Mikehas moved his complete race/ restoration shop to TEXAS. Yup, he moved from Sonoma California where he specialized in Vintage Car restoration, repairs, assembly, manufacturing, any and all parts. >> >> In New Braunfels Texas Mike is close to the racing action and will be happy to chat with you on your racing and restoration problems. By the way Mike is a really nice man too. How could it get better. Give Mike at a call at 830-312-7740. >> Never be beaten by equipment. >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The several years? build up to the race Gives some interesting insights into the personalities of Dreyfus, Carriciola, Chiron and other famous drivers of the day. A real ?page turner!? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Wed Jul 15 06:32:54 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 07:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 bumpers Message-ID: <2C75BAA7-C441-4DB0-B9D0-D5A4BA4C4878@icloud.com> My son and I are restoring his storage unit TR3. We are doing a shake down of all the parts bins discovering the missing bits. Currently looking for front and rear bumpers. Please let me know if you have any lying around that looking for a good project car to call home. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone From dos_gusanos at msn.com Wed Jul 15 07:09:32 2020 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:09:32 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR3 bumpers In-Reply-To: <2C75BAA7-C441-4DB0-B9D0-D5A4BA4C4878@icloud.com> References: <2C75BAA7-C441-4DB0-B9D0-D5A4BA4C4878@icloud.com> Message-ID: I just bought two storage unit TR3's, probably have a bunch of that stuff that all needs chrome..............Cheers, Henry Morrison, Salt Lake City Sent from Outlook ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Greg Blake Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 6:32 AM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] TR3 bumpers My son and I are restoring his storage unit TR3. We are doing a shake down of all the parts bins discovering the missing bits. Currently looking for front and rear bumpers. Please let me know if you have any lying around that looking for a good project car to call home. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos at msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From agb at compsnw.com Thu Jul 16 19:02:22 2020 From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:02:22 -0700 Subject: [Fot] hauling help Message-ID: <6dc9d0b3-ed47-c9f7-6cb7-f14c81b5dfea@compsnw.com> Still hoping to find somebody with an empty trailer in order to transport a Triumph Herald from Twin Falls, ID (Boise area) to the Seattle area, anywhere from Tacoma to Bellingham. Thanks in advance Alec Buchan, Bellingham. From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Mon Jul 20 01:37:30 2020 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 17:37:30 +1000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear suspension query Message-ID: i'm soon to "refresh" the back end of our old GT6 Mk2 race car and i'd dearly like to hear from successful racers of this model before heading down any particular path Currently it has home made lower wishbones & rear upper arm to give easier adjustment for toe and camber. it has a 1 leaf upper spring and koni race shocks with coil springs The upper transverse leaf is mostly there to satisfy a period race rule that says it must stay there, but the bulk of the springing performed by the coils (350lb/in from memory) Some folk have suggested the single upper leaf get replaced with a swing spring, but i'm not sure i see the benefit on a race car is there a 'collective wisdom" on this subject for the Mk2 cars?? thanks Terry O'Beirne Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.r.davies at btinternet.com Mon Jul 20 12:49:22 2020 From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (John Davaies) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:49:22 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 232 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f101d65ec6$7be921e0$73bb65a0$@btinternet.com> GT6 suspension If you have wishbones,, then you are simulating the Rotaflex modification done in response to criticism of the swing axle design of early cars. Then Triumph had the Brilliant idea of the swing spring, to make the car soft in roll, but hard in bump. The advantage was in lightness, no heavy cast iron wishbone, and cheapness. If you have fabricatd (light?) wishbones (and don't intend to go into production) there is nothing to be gained by going swing spring. Indeed, swing spring and variable length drive shafts (just won't mix! On this subject, I recently had a correspondence with Mark Ortiz, the chassis consultant to many Nascar and other US teams. Racecar Engineering is an excellent journal, which I recommend! And Mark is a regular columnist, "The Consultant". A recent column dealt with the Chevrolet Corvair, that gained an awful reputation for poor design and on-road lethality. Ortiz discussed the swing axle that the Corvair had, and shared with other cars. In the absence of a Correspondence column in the magazine, I wrote to him: Mark, Thank you for your interesting article on the Corvair, (Racecar Engineering, August 2020, p.51 Corvair Vindication?) and the swing axle design that so attracted Nader's ire. As you say, that design and its shortcomings were well known in the 60s. You listed several manufacturers, so attracted by this cheap and simple suspension as to use it in their cars. But you omitted the car whose designers evolved the swing axle more successfully and cheaply than most, Standard Triumph. They chose the swing axle for their 'small-chassis' series of models, the Herald, Spitfire, GT6 and Vitesse. Motoring journalists knew as well as designers how to get such an axle to 'jack-up' and did so immediately, giving the cars a poor reputation. Triumph replied for the more powerful GT6 and Vitesse by adding a lower wishbone, but the design was heavy and expensive. As you say in your article, "what works best for a swing axle is stiff springing in ride. and soft springing in roll" but you only gave Formula Vee as the example. Triumph came up with the "swing spring" that did just that, by allowing the transverse spring to pivot in the centre, to reduce the roll resistance of later cars by 75% ! This most successful modification is, I believe , unique, and I feel that Triumph's ingenuity should have been recognised! Mark has been kind enough to answer me in his latest Chassis Newsletter, a regular email column that as he says he "sends out to promote my business, it is not my intention to spam my correspondents, and the newsletter is intended to be genuinely useful to its recipients." No doubt you do, Mark, you're not spamming me, and your article is most useful. Thank you! I hope other Triumpheros will be interested: THE TRIUMPH SWING SPRING The "swing spring" is one of many ways to skin this cat. The oldest I know of is Mercedes' third coil spring. For those unfamiliar with it, the swing spring is a transverse leaf spring similar to the one that the Spitfire/Herald suspension already had, only rubber mounted. This allows the spring to swing as the suspension displaces in roll, but the rubber resists this a bit. The spring itself is also made stiffer than the original. This allows the system to act like the original system with a camber compensator added, or maybe a bit better, with fewer parts. Also, although I have not investigated the patent situation surrounding this, I would surmise that the swing spring probably would be a patentable invention. The swing spring reduces the elastic roll resistance by about 75%, compared to (I guess) an identical leaf spring rigidly mounted. The system still has a lot of geometric roll resistance, and it still jacks quite a bit. Indeed, Triumph could have just mounted the spring so it could swing freely, eliminating rear elastic roll resistance entirely. This would make the system functionally equivalent to a "zero roll" setup on a Formula Vee. The system would still produce substantial geometric roll resistance, and accordingly considerable load transfer and jacking when cornering. However, I doubt that it would have been patentable like that. Another way to reduce the jacking and limit oversteer is to add front anti-roll bar stiffness. The less load transfer the rear has (meaning the more the front has), the less the rear swing axle system will jack. Depending on tires, road surface, and rear toe setting, swing axles can produce judder on the inside wheel when we reduce rear load transfer. I have seen this with Mk. 3 Spitfires, on the street, on street radials. This is sort of the Y-axis analog of rear wheel hop in braking with a lot of rear brake and anti-lift. Swing axles can also produce judder on the outside wheel. There is no way to make a swing axle suspension as good as more complex forms of independent suspension. The Triumph swing spring does not produce handling equal to the earlier GT 6 suspension. However, it is somewhat lighter, definitely cheaper, and a significant improvement over the earlier swing axle setup. And it achieves this essentially for free - really no added parts at all. So to that extent, it is indeed a clever solution. In theory, GM could likewise have used just a swinging leaf spring on the Corvair - basically just a multi-leaf camber compensator - and dispensed with the coil springs, although there might be structural reasons that wouldn't work, at least not without re-engineering the engine and transaxle mountings. Those mounts would then be holding the back of the car up, and there would also be significant bending loads applied to the transaxle and engine. -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of fot-request at autox.team.net Sent: 20 July 2020 19:00 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 232 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." From macdonaldp at rogers.com Tue Jul 21 08:28:17 2020 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 10:28:17 -0400 Subject: [Fot] FW: 1974 TR7 Race Car For Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01d65f6b$2d837e60$888a7b20$@rogers.com> The 1975 TR7 race car that I restored a while ago is up for sale. I sold it in 2012 to the current owner. I don?t think he has done much to the car except collected parts for a V8 conversion. Paul From: Boot 'n Bonnet All British Car Club [mailto:BNB-L at LISTS.QUEENSU.CA] On Behalf Of Brian Thomas Sent: July 21, 2020 8:14 AM To: BNB-L at LISTS.QUEENSU.CA Subject: 1974 TR7 Race Car For Sale Greg Kerr has a race car for sale ? 1974 Triumph TR7 with documented race history. Was raced successfully in the day by Cullingford Motors, a BL dealer located in Barrie. Restored to near show condition but needs work to go racing. About 90% complete. Eligible for VARAC road racing at Mosport, Shannonville, Calabogie, etc. Totally tricked out with rare works BL factory competition parts. Webers, 5 sp close ratio, fully adjustable rear suspension. I was going to convert to TR8 so also have two V8's with many competition parts such as pistons, camshaft, rockers, Holley 4bbl, headers, etc. Many spare parts including body panels. Too much to list. Custom tow bar to take it home if you don't have a trailer. $8500 for everything or $6500 if you only want the TR7. email me for photos. gregsk at bell.net Greg Kerr 613 478 1089. Tweed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/slaterptrs at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Jul 23 08:06:54 2020 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:06:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4382A9D3-CDB7-4C87-A62E-EFBB2D60B347@att.net> Second! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:50 AM, marty sukey wrote: > > ? > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell.pierce at lpl.com Thu Jul 23 08:09:05 2020 From: russell.pierce at lpl.com (Pierce, Russell) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:09:05 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: <5F2DC950-44ED-4AFA-8377-03B75EFAA405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <93333fd58fe34b4ab7cb276e7ad9bc82@P02HSVW-AXADV07.lpl.net> I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. [cid:image001.png at 01D660D9.4B30FE00] 314 Corder Road (478) 225-6750 Warner Robins, GA 31088 (478) 225-6740 fax www.GriggersWealth.com GriggersWealth at LPL.com Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. From: Fot On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM To: Terry Sopher ; FOT Subject: [Fot] Nomination I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? Marty Securities offered through LPL Financial Member FINRA/SIPC The information contained in this email message is being transmitted to and is intended for the use of only the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. 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Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY Off to continue finishing the ?58 Bugeye (street car) we rescued from the crusher. It (should) make its first official appearance at Lime Rock?s Sunday in the Park concours. > On Jul 23, 2020, at 9:50 AM, marty sukey wrote: > > ? > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Second!-- Jay and Kathy De PolDid he find out what the problem was with (I think)? his transmission??? -----Original Message----- From: Pierce, Russell To: marty sukey ; Terry Sopher ; FOT Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination #yiv0629689496 #yiv0629689496 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv0629689496 #yiv0629689496 p.yiv0629689496MsoNormal, #yiv0629689496 li.yiv0629689496MsoNormal, #yiv0629689496 div.yiv0629689496MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0629689496 a:link, #yiv0629689496 span.yiv0629689496MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0629689496 span.yiv0629689496EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv0629689496 .yiv0629689496MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv0629689496 div.yiv0629689496WordSection1 {}#yiv0629689496 I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. ? ? 314 Corder Road????????????????????????????????????????????????? (478) 225-6750 Warner Robins, GA? 31088?????????????????????????????????? (478) 225-6740 fax www.GriggersWealth.com???????????????????????????GriggersWealth at LPL.com ? Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. ? From: Fot On Behalf Ofmarty sukey Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM To: Terry Sopher ; FOT Subject: [Fot] Nomination ? I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio.? Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com.? How about a second? ? Marty ? ? ? 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Second!-- Jay and Kathy De Pol > Did he find out what the problem was with (I think) his transmission??? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pierce, Russell > To: marty sukey ; Terry Sopher ; FOT > Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination > > I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. > > > > 314 Corder Road (478) 225-6750 > Warner Robins, GA 31088 (478) 225-6740 fax > www.GriggersWealth.com GriggersWealth at LPL.com > > Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. > This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. > > From: Fot On Behalf Of marty sukey > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM > To: Terry Sopher ; FOT > Subject: [Fot] Nomination > > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > > > > Securities offered through LPL Financial Member FINRA/SIPC > > > The information contained in this email message is being transmitted to and is intended for the use of only the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby advised that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 08:46:34 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:46:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <32FA67F7-20CA-4017-B0CB-75EBBA51384A@gmail.com> References: <32FA67F7-20CA-4017-B0CB-75EBBA51384A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Cathy & I enjoyed meeting everyone and adding new friendships and look forward to future events! Best, Terry & Cathy > On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:41, Terry Sopher wrote: > > ? > Hi All, > > The flywheel bolts all sheared off. Bell housing is toast & The crank has multiple cracks. Sourcing parts now and having Andy Greene (he bought Ted Wentz?s Savannah Race & Engineering this June) put motor back together and new flywheel/clutch assembly. > > Looking at fall VDCA & SVRA schedules...definitely Roebling Road! > > Best, Terry > >>> On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:16, kkjjk at aol.com wrote: >>> >> ? >> We were paddacked on the other side of Terry. Very nice people and very nice car. Second!-- Jay and Kathy De Pol >> Did he find out what the problem was with (I think) his transmission??? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pierce, Russell >> To: marty sukey ; Terry Sopher ; FOT >> Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination >> >> I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. >> >> >> >> 314 Corder Road (478) 225-6750 >> Warner Robins, GA 31088 (478) 225-6740 fax >> www.GriggersWealth.com GriggersWealth at LPL.com >> >> Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. >> This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. >> >> From: Fot On Behalf Of marty sukey >> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM >> To: Terry Sopher ; FOT >> Subject: [Fot] Nomination >> >> I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? >> >> Marty >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Securities offered through LPL Financial Member FINRA/SIPC >> >> >> The information contained in this email message is being transmitted to and is intended for the use of only the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby advised that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 09:08:47 2020 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:08:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: <5F2DC950-44ED-4AFA-8377-03B75EFAA405@gmail.com> Message-ID: I second the Colonel! *Shawn Frank* *The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor VTR#94692North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - OwnerDes Moines Concours d'Elegance - RecruiterContinued Legacy Photo - OwnerIowa British Car ClubFriends of Triumph - MediaDrive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver515-339-4228'71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude"'65 Triumph TR4A IRS "Johnny"* On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 8:50 AM marty sukey wrote: > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced > with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is > just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His > email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bkahler1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 16:34:19 2020 From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:34:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] Randall Young In-Reply-To: <000001d66140$e0828660$a1879320$@uprichard.net> References: <000001d66140$e0828660$a1879320$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: FYI Sad news. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: andrew uprichard Date: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:31 PM Subject: [TR] Randall Young To: , 6-Pack I just got a call from Randall?s wife, Mei. Randall died 2 days ago. He was only 64. Very sad indeed. Mei asked me to let his Triumph friends know, so I have posted a note on TRE as well as this email. Anyone who knew Randall should feel free to post to other sites where he was active. Mei told me they are planning a funeral in the Midwest (Missouri, I believe, but she was very emotional and hard to follow). She said any friends who want to know more should call her on her cell phone: (562) 303 8007. Her address is 5754 Coke Avenue, Lakewood, CA 90712-1605. Rest in peace, Randall ? we will miss you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Jul 24 05:45:11 2020 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:45:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] RIP Randall Young. FOT. References: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F@cs.com> FOT: Many of you did not know Randall, but he was on the FOT List since the late 90s. He was one of exceptions to the list preference for ?racers only?. He had superior Triumph knowledge and was very helpful to many of us over the years. And so it goes....... Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jul 24 08:45:43 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:45:43 -0600 Subject: [Fot] RIP Randall Young. FOT. In-Reply-To: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F@cs.com> References: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F.ref@cs.com> <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F@cs.com> Message-ID: <51096d95-be88-6ebc-a14c-b180d5ee2fd6@bradakis.com> On 7/24/20 5:45 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > > Many of you did not know Randall, but he was on the FOT List since the late 90s. > > He was one of exceptions to the list preference for ?racers only?. He had superior Triumph knowledge and was very helpful to many of us over the years. > > And so it goes....... > Yes, 2020 delivers yet another solid kick to the groin.? Randall was the exception to many rules, no doubt. And here's a shot in the dark. On 7/24/20 3:46 AM, Lawarence Schwartz wrote: > Hello, Such sad news indeed. I was introduced to Randall many years > ago by the late ?FT? Fred Thomas . Such two true blue fine gentlemen. > Randall, there is a special place for you in heaven, RIP. ? Lawrence > Schwartz So does anyone have a photo of Fred and Randall together?? I had an idea for a project some years ago, and maybe I should get back to work on it. http://autox.team.net/memory.html mjb. From dkettler1 at charter.net Fri Jul 24 11:00:45 2020 From: dkettler1 at charter.net (dkettler1 at charter.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 12:00:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed Message-ID: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> All, I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side steering link for a Spitfire. Driver is a friend of Kent Prather so I am canvasing the list for Kent. Any help is appreciated. He would like to race this weekend. Thanks, Dave Kettler 920-946-7491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jul 24 11:42:36 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:42:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Sigh. Message-ID: Normally I don't need to reach for a box of tissues when doing a simple Unix command line task: [root at autox bin]# [root at autox bin]# ./remove_members --fromall -n tr3driver at ca.rr.com User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: fot. User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: the-local. User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: shop-talk. User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: triumphs. Thank you Randall Young for all you did for the lists, your steadfast support of Team Net and the Triumph community over the years.? You will be missed. mjb. From tr4abrad at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 12:12:15 2020 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:12:15 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Sigh. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark and all, I marveled for years at Randall?s knowledge of our beloved Triumphs. I may have met him at a singular SoCal club meeting in the mid-nineties but didn?t really connect with him until my Spitfire racer came up for sale in late 2017. He was there with Kas and I. He documented the day with his camera and sent me an image set I now cherish. Thank you and RIP Randall. Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > ? > Normally I don't need to reach for a box of tissues when doing a simple Unix command line task: > > [root at autox bin]# > [root at autox bin]# ./remove_members --fromall -n tr3driver at ca.rr.com > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: fot. > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: the-local. > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: shop-talk. > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: triumphs. > > > Thank you Randall Young for all you did for the lists, your steadfast support of Team Net and the Triumph community over the years. You will be missed. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 12:34:19 2020 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:34:19 -0700 Subject: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed In-Reply-To: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> References: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <37FA2E86-C2A0-49C8-8D6C-43C44A4CD98A@gmail.com> Dave, By steering link, assuming that is a vertical link. Important to know which one, right or left and if it?s Spitfire or GT6 as many have been upgraded. Hope he finds what he needs. Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:00 AM, dkettler1 at charter.net wrote: > > ? > All, > > I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side steering link for a Spitfire. Driver is a friend of Kent Prather so I am canvasing the list for Kent. > > Any help is appreciated. He would like to race this weekend. > > Thanks, > > Dave Kettler > 920-946-7491 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:54 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed On 7/24/20 11:00 AM, dkettler1 at charter.net wrote: > > All, > > I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side > steering link for a Spitfire. > What, exactly, is a 'steering link'?? Though I have a couple Spitfire parts cars in the yard I doubt I can get the exact piece removed and sent over a thousand miles away in time for the event. mjb. From bownes at seiri.com Fri Jul 24 15:03:31 2020 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:03:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Speaking of off topic... Message-ID: I've been cleaning out the garage and gave away a 64 Spit trans yesterday. I have left to get rid of: Spitfire 1500 trunk lid. stripped and ready to prime.paint on the top, original dark blue underneath. $100 obo Unknown 4 cylinder Land Rover engine left behind by Bill Calloccia when he went on ahead. $100 obo Both located in Troy, N.Y. You must pick up. I'd like for both of these to go to a good home. 100% of proceeds will go to funding team.net. Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkrantz77 at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 18:45:02 2020 From: rkrantz77 at comcast.net (Ron KRANTZ) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 20:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed In-Reply-To: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> References: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <396040643.81122.1595637903787@connect.xfinity.com> I have them but don't know how to get it to him in time. Ron Krantz Rek racing 248-917-7223 > On 07/24/2020 1:00 PM dkettler1 at charter.net wrote: > > > > All, > > > I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side steering link for a Spitfire. Driver is a friend of Kent Prather so I am canvasing the list for Kent. > > > Any help is appreciated. He would like to race this weekend. > > > Thanks, > > > Dave Kettler > > 920-946-7491 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkrantz77 at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 08:58:01 2020 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Odd Ball Parts In-Reply-To: <2123446860.6483712.1595861657920@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2123446860.6483712.1595861657920.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2123446860.6483712.1595861657920@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084082000.6489107.1595861881976@mail.yahoo.com> I am looking for an unusual part, and am hoping someone on the list can help me. As you know, there are 2 different kinds of lift-o-dot studs, one designed to screw into wood, like a wood screw, and the other meant to mount to metal with a machine thread and you put a nut on the back of it.? I am looking for the latter, with an unusually long threaded section.? The ones I have are a #10-32 thread and the threaded section is 9/16" long (picture attached).? I need some with a slightly longer threaded section (at least 3/4" long).? Would any of you happen to have any of these, or know where I might find some?? I need 4 of them. Thank you. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Picture - lift-o-dot stud1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1748428 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cak at dimebank.com Mon Jul 27 12:13:53 2020 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:13:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Odd Ball Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 7/27/20 11:00 AM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote: > As you know, there are 2 different kinds of lift-o-dot studs, one designed to screw into wood, like a wood screw, and the other meant to mount to metal with a machine thread and you put a nut on the back of it.? I am looking for the latter, with an unusually long threaded section.? The ones I have are a #10-32 thread and the threaded section is 9/16" long (picture attached).? I need some with a slightly longer threaded section (at least 3/4" long).? Would any of you happen to have any of these, or know where I might find some?? I need 4 of them. > > Thank you. > Jack I think you're looking for part 552670, as opposed to the 552669 that you have in hand. TRF's online system says they are in stock ... From john at linneyweb.com Tue Jul 28 11:15:02 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:15:02 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SD card and a question. Message-ID: <108E1C3D-5D2A-4D3A-A56F-8B68547D039F@linneyweb.com> Hi Jerry - I have your SD card from the 24A Spitfire of the Kastner cup race, but no return address. Where should I return it? Also, to tell the difference between father and son - who was driving which car and how should they be named? I currently have "Jerry L. Barker" for both the Spitfire and the Herald. Thanks for letting me have your video. -john John Linney https://classicmotorfilms.com YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/classicmotorfilms 408 887 8105 From quikrx at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 16:21:44 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] looking for a relay Chicago to Vermont References: <2121029193.6052255.1595974904146.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2121029193.6052255.1595974904146@mail.yahoo.com> have a fellow TR owner in Vermont who needs a round tail Spit hardtop in Chicago shipped to him in Vermont - any help or ideas appreciated - Fastenal said no, regular shippers quoted 1k or more - time is not critical at this time CheersRalph -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Jul 29 08:34:18 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 10:34:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Rambler wheels References: <97D40F6C-08CE-4945-8847-5B9F15F77649.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <97D40F6C-08CE-4945-8847-5B9F15F77649@aol.com> Back in the day, 15 inch, 4 x 4 1/2? bolt circle Rambler (Nash?) wheels were the hot set up. All steel, they were thicker, and hence stronger and stiffer (and heavier) than the stock TR wheels. I have a pair kicking around somewhere in the barn. If anyone is interested I?ll dig them out. Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 03:32:09 2020 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Vintage References: <2002863468.6957584.1596187929958.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2002863468.6957584.1596187929958@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, We had 5 Triumphs running with the Historic Race Group at Lime Rock last weekend. I shot some in-car on SAT for the points race: 2020 HRG LimeRock | | | | | | | | | | | 2020 HRG LimeRock | | | I had some great dices with the orange Porsche driven by Bobby Singh... There was some nice iron in the race group. Regards,Bob Lang339-927-4489 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hankgiffin at cox.net Fri Jul 31 10:01:00 2020 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:01:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR3 Roller still for sale Message-ID: <01a101d66753$cad6f580$6084e080$@cox.net> FOT, I still have the TR3 roller, really nice painted frame, and disassembled but ready to assemble engine. My shop is next to Abacus in VA Beach who can reassemble the engine. No reasonable offer refused. Will separate if necessary. Would like to see it back on the track. Give me a call and we can talk. Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 From: Fot On Behalf Of Henry Giffin via Fot Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:59 PM To: fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3 Roller for sale FOT, another Spring project for someone interested. I am selling the former Abacus Racing BRG TR3 (TS57917L). There was a video of Mike Jackson and Bill Thummel racing at Mid Ohio posted here earlier in the year. Bill won the race on Sat but Mike took it on Sunday. It has a ready to assemble engine and a non-overdrive gearbox, with stock TR3 rear end. It has 5 good panasport wheels. Abacus took a clean no rust street car and converted it for vintage racing in 1991. The SVRA logbook shows 28 races from 1991 to 1997. Abacus then took the engine and gearbox for their TR4. The car sat in a dry garage until I purchased it last year. I intended to make a race car for my son in law and my grandson, or even turn it back to a streetcar. I have since found some Turners that I think will be better for them, and the TR3 is now available with parts. I purchased a ready to assemble engine from Dave Spiwak and that will go with the car for what I paid Dave (list attached) It comes with a very nice sandblasted and painted TR3 frame. It has a New Mexico title. The car looks solid, and has a heavy sway bar in the front. All instruments are there, including an overdrive button on the steering wheel. There is a small dent in the left rear fender which looks like it can be banged out. I have a fiberglass tunnel. The roll bar includes door impact protection. Abacus was very successful with the car. More info and photos available. Roller and frame for $5500. Engine ready to assemble $5000 (pls see attachment - I paid $5K, Dave spent $7721), and the additional below parts I purchased from Dave ($535): Fidanza flywheel $200 Tilton clutch $150 Starter $70 Auto Pro Rev Limiter $15 Detroit Locker $100 I was quoted $1000 to $1500 for engine assembly by Abacus Machine shop. Car needs a fuel cell, tires, brake rebuild, and normal stuff done after a car has been sitting. Car, engine parts, and frame are in Va Bch. So everything totals $11,350. I prefer it all to go together. Anyone interested? Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TR3-4 Engine.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 288662 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I shot some in-car on SAT for the points race: > > 2020 HRG LimeRock > > 2020 HRG LimeRock > > > > > I had some great dices with the orange Porsche driven by Bobby Singh... > > There was some nice iron in the race group. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > 339-927-4489 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 15:42:45 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <624338679.7187909.1596231765147@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Michael, We are both using the Bastuck steel shim head gasket. ?We spray Hylomar sealant jointing compound on both sides of it before installing. ?Seems to work well, and doesn?t need the filing the steel shim?gasket in the Kastner competition manual requires. ? Mordy Dunst also makes a copper gasket that I guess works well, but I?ve never tried that one. ? I recently ordered a spare gasket right from Bastuck in Germany, it?s your best price for that with the current exchange rate by far at this point I believe! What are you running now? ?And compression ratio? ? I?m at 11:1... Hope that helps! Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Jul 31 15:47:19 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:47:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Need more information like bore and amount milled from the head. And your question is like asking what oil or brake fluid should I use. You?ll get a lot of responses and they all work for the responder so sort thru the advice and make a choice. From: mleccese1--- via Fot Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:27 PM To: fot at autox.team.net ; triumphsix at yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank you Michael L -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mleccese1 at verizon.net Fri Jul 31 15:50:27 2020 From: mleccese1 at verizon.net (mleccese1 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639@mail.yahoo.com> Not sure head gasket I will have to look thru my notes compression is 10.5 running 110 octane Thank you Michael L On Friday, July 31, 2020 David Gott wrote: Hi Michael, We are both using the Bastuck steel shim head gasket. ?We spray Hylomar sealant jointing compound on both sides of it before installing. ?Seems to work well, and doesn?t need the filing the steel shim?gasket in the Kastner competition manual requires. ? Mordy Dunst also makes a copper gasket that I guess works well, but I?ve never tried that one. ? I recently ordered a spare gasket right from Bastuck in Germany, it?s your best price for that with the current exchange rate by far at this point I believe! What are you running now? ?And compression ratio? ? I?m at 11:1... Hope that helps! Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 15:54:50 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639@mail.yahoo.com> References: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <71920195.10287203.1596232227639@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <202569139.7205769.1596232490053@mail.yahoo.com> Just be aware that if it?s more of a stock gasket you have now, the steel shim gasket may increase your compression a little bit, but you should be safe at that ratio I imagine.... Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:50 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Not sure head gasket I will have to look thru my notes compression is 10.5 running 110 octane Thank you Michael L On Friday, July 31, 2020 David Gott wrote: Hi Michael, We are both using the Bastuck steel shim head gasket. ?We spray Hylomar sealant jointing compound on both sides of it before installing. ?Seems to work well, and doesn?t need the filing the steel shim?gasket in the Kastner competition manual requires. ? Mordy Dunst also makes a copper gasket that I guess works well, but I?ve never tried that one. ? I recently ordered a spare gasket right from Bastuck in Germany, it?s your best price for that with the current exchange rate by far at this point I believe! What are you running now? ?And compression ratio? ? I?m at 11:1... Hope that helps! Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Jul 31 16:03:55 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 18:03:55 -0400 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Fwd: Triumphs Only, 40 year business, large inventory of cars and parts | eBay In-Reply-To: References: <067B6F36-37E6-4D1A-AE94-862BF5DAB764@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6B6F6A29D04846039F33DC4711CC5C83@VlackTK121647> I saw the ad and ask and wonder how the valuation is determined. There should be a list of assets and associated value before any lender would issue a loan which of course on used parts can be rather subjective. How long will it take to recover the investment? What?s the size of the market? Cost to move and inventory at a new warehouse. In the end in my opinion this will be a very difficult sale unless a collector with deep pockets just bellied up to the bar and makes an acceptable offer. JVV From: Tom Householder Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 4:04 PM To: FOT List Cc: TR3 Triumphs Subject: [TR] Fwd: Triumphs Only, 40 year business, large inventory of cars and parts | eBay Begin forwarded message: From: Gil Sissons Subject: Triumphs Only, 40 year business, large inventory of cars and parts | eBay Date: July 31, 2020 at 10:36:03 AM EDT To: Tom Householder Looks like Wayne has his collection back for sale on EBay..... FYI Gil https://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumphs-Only-40-year-business-large-inventory-of-cars-and-parts-/193308184304 Sent from my iPhone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Fri Jul 31 16:13:08 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:13:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87609229-0b2e-1ebc-d885-62b85297a669@tonydrews.com> If you want one that is tolerant of imperfect block / head / liner protrusion, Cometic part numberH0793SP4059F has worked best for me. Payen AE-330 composite used to be my go-to, but they changed hands and I changed liners and that didn't work for me anymore. This is an 0.059" thick, 91 mm bore gasket with round fire rings, but you need 91 mm bore even if your liners are smaller than that (mine are) due to the diameter of the hole in the head if you've milled ANYTHING off of it and opened up the intake pocket.? They make a thinner gasket and a 88 mm one, but the 88mm fire ring outer edge is inside the intake pocket on my head which has only been milled, no additional intake pocket relief ground.? Even at 91mm I have a little bit of the fire ring protruding into the combustion chamber.? I've not had it burn through - but the longest it stays on the engine is maybe a dozen races. If you have perfect block / head / liner protrusion, one of the solid gaskets (either steel shim or one of Mordy's awesome copper gaskets - gasketworks.com) will give you a bit more compression and you can make sure none of it protrudes into the combustion chamber.? We tried various solid gaskets on Jack's engines and always ended up blowing a head gasket and changing to a Payen AE-330 at the track.? We eventually just put the composite gasket in to begin with and stopped having to do that.? We got pretty good at it though - I think we had it down to about 1.5 hours. Regards, Tony Drews On 7/31/2020 4:27 PM, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote: > Phil, Dave, > > I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green > TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. > > Thank you > Michael L > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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ThanksMichael L -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack To: mleccese1 at verizon.net; fot at autox.team.net; triumphsix at yahoo.com Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 5:47 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Head Gasket Need more information like bore and amount milled from the head. And your question is like asking what oil or brake fluid should I use. You?ll get a lot of responses and they all work for the responder so sort thru the advice and make a choice.?From: mleccese1--- via Fot Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:27 PMTo: fot at autox.team.net ; triumphsix at yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket?Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gasket.works at gte.net Fri Jul 31 16:16:46 2020 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <837563775.10316385.1596233806963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <837563775.10316385.1596233806963@mail.yahoo.com> The very Best Head Gasket is the one that works.? Good luck.? Mordy? MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2 On?Friday, July 31, 2020,?Jerry Van Vlack via Fot??wrote: Need more information like bore and amount milled from the head. And your question is like asking what oil or brake fluid should I use. You?ll get a lot of responses and they all work for the responder so sort thru the advice and make a choice.?From: mleccese1--- via Fot Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:27 PMTo: fot at autox.team.net ; triumphsix at yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket?Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 16:24:20 2020 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1817540224.8589153.1596234260481@mail.yahoo.com> I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic.? I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head gasket.? I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1).? From day 1 it never really ran right.? I began to suspect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.? Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system.? That says bad head gasket or crack in the head.? Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket. I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.? A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.? I had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for it.? He encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.? It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses.? They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired.? I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.? It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one. I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great.? I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and haven't had a problem.? It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks.? By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.? I also used that.? A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.? Do not spray a thick coat.? Below is the link to the Cometic web site.? Check it out. Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure | | | | Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... | | | Jack On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gasket.works at gte.net Fri Jul 31 16:58:43 2020 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021@mail.yahoo.com> Copper hg?s not for everyone. ?Deck, head have to be flat, true. ?Anything more than .004? off??front to rear and you will have fitment issues. ?Knowing how?to use dressing us key. ? Can take two identical engines one built by a?periodic builder ?and one pro. ? Same parts . ?One will be built better and likely have a durable engine.? MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2 On?Friday, July 31, 2020,?Jack Wheeler via Fot??wrote: I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic.? I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head gasket.? I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1).? From day 1 it never really ran right.? I began to suspect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.? Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system.? That says bad head gasket or crack in the head.? Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket. I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.? A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.? I had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for it.? He encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.? It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses.? They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired.? I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.? It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one. I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great.? I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and haven't had a problem.? It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks.? By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.? I also used that.? A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.? Do not spray a thick coat.? Below is the link to the Cometic web site.? Check it out. Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure | | | | Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... | | | Jack On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 17:37:45 2020 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:37:45 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If the head gasket has a round bore it will leak on a heavily machined cylinder head because the combustion chamber around the intake valve will increase in radius and create the ""Mickey Mouse ear" that eliminates the contact area with the sealing ring on a round head gasket opening. Mordy makes my solid .030" copper annealed head gaskets for a .125" milled steel head and use copper wire fire rings above and below the gasket for added sealing. Coppercoat sprayed on several coats and 2 to 3 thousands liner protrusion. ARP hardware. On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 6:59 PM Mordy Dunst via Fot wrote: > Copper hg?s not for everyone. Deck, head have to be flat, true. Anything > more than .004? off front to rear and you will have fitment issues. > Knowing how to use dressing us key. Can take two identical engines one > built by a periodic builder and one pro. Same parts . One will be built > better and likely have a durable engine. > > MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 > Fax 626.628.3777 > Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 > T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 > > On Friday, July 31, 2020, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: > > > I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic. > I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head > gasket. I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in > the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1). From day > 1 it never really ran right. I began to suspect coolant was getting into > the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull > some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests > for hydrocarbons. Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant > system. That says bad head gasket or crack in the head. Since I'd had the > head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket. > > I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket. A guy at a > local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic. I had > never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so > surely they would not make a gasket for it. He encouraged me to check the > internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR > engine. It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for > different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different > thicknesses. They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the > thickness desired. I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket. It all sounded a > little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I > ordered one. > > I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and > suddenly the engine ran great. I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car > since then and haven't had a problem. It runs cool (even on 95 degree > days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks. > By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement. I > also used that. A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick. Do > not spray a thick coat. Below is the link to the Cometic web site. Check > it out. > > Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure > > Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure > > Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of > motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... > > Jack > > > > > > On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Phil, Dave, > > I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 > #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. > > Thank you > Michael L > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Jul 1 13:02:04 2020 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:02:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Video Cards to John Linney References: <5B750240-85B1-4BA2-B620-9D2BD52CC8FE.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <5B750240-85B1-4BA2-B620-9D2BD52CC8FE@cs.com> If you planned to send videos to John Linney, please do so very soon. Thank you very much. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From jeffsnook01 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 15:26:02 2020 From: jeffsnook01 at gmail.com (Jeff Snook) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 17:26:02 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results Message-ID: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: Jeff Snook 1:49 Mike Jackson 1:48 Neal Howard 2:00 Tim Studdard 1:59 John Fridirici 2:02 Bill Dentinger 2:03 Bud Babcock 2:03 Larry Young 2:14 Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! Vroom, vroom Jeff Snook 419-344-0319 www.snooksdreamcars.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Jul 1 15:46:29 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:46:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Looks quite similar to the times we were turning last weekend.? I made it into the 1:50's, some other faster guys made it into the 1:47's. Regards, Tony On 7/1/2020 4:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race > results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend.For some reason I > don't have the results from the K-Cup.I think I missed that race > because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left > front fender, and it must have been terminal.Remember how those > TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become > disassociated from the car!! > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best > lap time: > > Jeff Snook 1:49 > > Mike Jackson 1:48 > > Neal Howard 2:00 > > Tim Studdard 1:59 > > John Fridirici2:02 > > Bill Dentinger2:03 > > Bud Babcock2:03 > > Larry Young2:14 > > Mark Butterworth1:49 (from England) > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid > Cautious" these days! > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > Vroom, vroom > > Jeff Snook > > 419-344-0319 > > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmar823 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:11:34 2020 From: dmar823 at gmail.com (Don Marshall) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 18:11:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: Jeff, according to the All Triumph Race results, you finished 9th overall, and 2nd TR3 behind Mike. I found the results sheet at http://fot-racing.com/feature/2002midohio/resultsalltriumphrace.htm Don On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:26 PM Jeff Snook wrote: > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race > results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I > don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race > because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left > front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 > rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the > car!! > > > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap > time: > > Jeff Snook 1:49 > > Mike Jackson 1:48 > > Neal Howard 2:00 > > Tim Studdard 1:59 > > John Fridirici 2:02 > > Bill Dentinger 2:03 > > Bud Babcock 2:03 > > Larry Young 2:14 > > Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) > > > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid > Cautious" these days! > > > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > > > Vroom, vroom > > > > Jeff Snook > > 419-344-0319 > > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmar823 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Wed Jul 1 16:22:51 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 15:22:51 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, I was sure looking for you and was wondering why you weren't racing. A 1:49 with the keyhole chicane? That's incredible! I was amazed to see Mike Moore doing so well. I have noticed that some of his recent race results have been terrific. He's quiet on the list, but if you're listening, great driving, Mike. You looked very smooth. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: > Jeff Snook 1:49 > Mike Jackson 1:48 > Neal Howard 2:00 > Tim Studdard 1:59 > John Fridirici 2:02 > Bill Dentinger 2:03 > Bud Babcock 2:03 > Larry Young 2:14 > Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > Vroom, vroom > > Jeff Snook > 419-344-0319 > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 16:49:01 2020 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> Message-ID: <764917751.990506.1593643741959@mail.yahoo.com> Great going guys.? I checked my old results sheet from Mid Ohio in 1995.? The best I could do with slick tires was 1:46.4.? Your ;lap times are terrific on vintage tires. Jack On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:13:03 PM EDT, Don Marshall wrote: Jeff, according to the All Triumph Race results, you finished 9th overall, and 2nd TR3 behind Mike.?? I found the results sheet at?http://fot-racing.com/feature/2002midohio/resultsalltriumphrace.htm Don On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:26 PM Jeff Snook wrote: Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend.? For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup.? I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal.? Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! ? TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: Jeff Snook ??????? 1:49 Mike Jackson ????? 1:48 Neal Howard ?????? 2:00 Tim Studdard ????? 1:59 John Fridirici???? 2:02 Bill Dentinger???? 2:03 Bud Babcock??????? 2:03 Larry Young??????? 2:14 Mark Butterworth?? 1:49 (from England) ? Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! ? Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! ? Vroom, vroom ? Jeff Snook 419-344-0319 www.snooksdreamcars.com ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmar823 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at artwithcars.com Wed Jul 1 17:29:09 2020 From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:29:09 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mid Ohio 1992 VIDEO! Message-ID: <9EE1F5B8-3525-47A3-AD4B-C7418E87BD52@artwithcars.com> Here?s rare archival video from the 1992 event, I believe Reg Bardon shot this footage. When I hit the oil it felt like a skating rink! https://youtu.be/lAIQpkE6KwQ ~Steve Belfer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr3a58dean at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 18:19:45 2020 From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:19:45 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com>, <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 1 18:48:47 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:48:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com>, <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I think George landed on his lid too when that happened. From: Dean Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:19 PM To: Tony Drews ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results I was there with my TR3 but did not run on Sunday. George Wright broke a rear hub and lost a wheel. I think that was on Friday or Sat morning. Dean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tony Drews Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:47 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results Looks quite similar to the times we were turning last weekend. I made it into the 1:50's, some other faster guys made it into the 1:47's. Regards, Tony On 7/1/2020 4:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend. For some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup. I think I missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been terminal. Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and best lap time: Jeff Snook 1:49 Mike Jackson 1:48 Neal Howard 2:00 Tim Studdard 1:59 John Fridirici 2:02 Bill Dentinger 2:03 Bud Babcock 2:03 Larry Young 2:14 Mark Butterworth 1:49 (from England) Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being "Covid Cautious" these days! Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! Vroom, vroom Jeff Snook 419-344-0319 www.snooksdreamcars.com _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Jul 1 19:41:04 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:41:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results In-Reply-To: References: <00ba01d64fee$39a08440$ace18cc0$@com> <8beac439-c3fd-d5c3-46bd-e395044b97f2@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <8fbfa238-3453-5b2c-bb4d-d70a3566facb@tonydrews.com> Most certainly.? I stopped to see if I could help lift the car or something but he had gotten out by the time I got there. Tony On 7/1/2020 7:48 PM, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > I think George landed on his lid too when that happened. > *From:* Dean > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:19 PM > *To:* Tony Drews ; fot at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results > > I was there with my TR3 but did not run on Sunday. George Wright broke > a rear hub and lost a wheel. I think that was on Friday or Sat morning. > > Dean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Tony Drews > *Sent: *Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:47 PM > *To: *fot at autox.team.net > *Subject: *Re: [Fot] 2002 MO Race Results > > Looks quite similar to the times we were turning last weekend.? I made > it into the 1:50's, some other faster guys made it into the 1:47's. > > Regards, Tony > > On 7/1/2020 4:26 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > > Hey all, I just looked into my records and found the 2002 Group 1 > race results where the TR3s were grouped for the weekend.? For > some reason I don't have the results from the K-Cup.? I think I > missed that race because someone's tire came loose and smacked me > in the grill and left front fender, and it must have been > terminal.? Remember how those TR3/TR4 rear hubs would fail and > allow the wheel to become disassociated from the car!! > > TR3 results from the Group 1 feature race in order of finish, and > best lap time: > > Jeff Snook???????? 1:49 > > Mike Jackson?????? 1:48 > > Neal Howard??????? 2:00 > > Tim Studdard?????? 1:59 > > John Fridirici???? 2:02 > > Bill Dentinger???? 2:03 > > Bud Babcock??????? 2:03 > > Larry Young??????? 2:14 > > Mark Butterworth?? 1:49 (from England) > > Sorry I could not be with the gang this year, but I am being > "Covid Cautious" these days! > > Congratulations to Mike Moore for being the fastest 4-cylinder TR3/4! > > Vroom, vroom > > Jeff Snook > > 419-344-0319 > > www.snooksdreamcars.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive:http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Thu Jul 2 09:44:34 2020 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Ginevra TR5 References: <28871156.1576406.1593704674662.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <28871156.1576406.1593704674662@mail.yahoo.com> Amici... I guess I always knew there must have been a TR5, I just did not know anything about it until this morning. Then on Facebook, a post touting Edgardo Michelotti's birthday, was a picture? of 'Ginevra', the TR5. Very pretty car, albeit a tad 'civil' by TR standards. Like the Sabrina Engines used at LeMan...I wonder why it never made it to the cars sold to the public. Bill Dentinger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Jul 2 11:24:00 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:24:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Message-ID: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews From trmarty at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 11:39:16 2020 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 17:39:16 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Good question. I lost my canopy to the wind at Mid-Ohio. Marty Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=Hat1PklaIIAcPvpEENE2cq08md%2FsSqxvowStm4WQr48%3D&reserved=0 Donate: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=%2FVT%2Bl3UDOTrONLi7BPiiI33C7LiXHyFiY5s5Hsb1O70%3D&reserved=0 Archive: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=%2BkRtm1mSP6Kszq%2FQ11OrPnaeEq9XpzMrsqRDSqeQdjg%3D&reserved=0 https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=rL9aGD7GKiC%2F6F727rBuhUKWzBWWgEi5BMzfFeSsxYk%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe/Manage: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Ftrmarty1%40gmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C67b604818b4645d6a2ed08d81eacc2b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637293074629597384&sdata=WTIgi9RZLz6Fj2L0JGwBfYzYrg6hEc6%2FaFJ2YUtDNUM%3D&reserved=0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jul 2 11:49:09 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 11:49:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: On 7/2/20 11:24 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle > wind and rain? Good question.? When I was doing IVR out at Wendover, every race weekend you could count on at least 2 or 3 canopies getting trashed by the winds that came screaming across the Salt Flats. Too bad one weekend it was mine that was one of the casualties, one of the anchor straps tied to the weight, 5 gallon water jug, came loose and it went for a couple hundred foot flight.? And lightweight, foldable lawn chairs also had a very high mortality rate. Ah yes, good old WINDover, Utah. mjb. From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Jul 2 12:28:08 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 13:28:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Tony, After spending a couple hundred bucks on the $30-$50 varieties, I bought a Coleman Beach canopy. Going on 3 years of south Texas beach use and the occasional race weekend. It?s windy and Texas and it?s held up. Of course I always use good anchors. Coleman Instant Beach Canopy, 10 x 10 Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0038XPNPS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_itGvsa6TNeyYO Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > From bfloyd6677 at aol.com Thu Jul 2 12:32:43 2020 From: bfloyd6677 at aol.com (bfloyd6677) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:32:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice.? Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Tony Drews Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain?Thanks, Tony Drews_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awashatko at wi.rr.com Thu Jul 2 12:33:30 2020 From: awashatko at wi.rr.com (Allen Washatko) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 13:33:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: See Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Jul 2 12:52:44 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 18:52:44 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. Scott (B) From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews > Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com Thu Jul 2 13:00:25 2020 From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 19:00:25 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> Message-ID: I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) You can also get replacement parts if needed. For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th Street Erie, PA 16506 Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100 Fax: 888-865-5279 Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. Scott (B) From: Fot > On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM To: Tony Drews >; Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews > Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] Canopy question Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Jul 2 13:16:58 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:16:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <8f124dbf-bcac-df13-c92e-caa7e247a75c@tonydrews.com> References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> <1924244355.340723.1593716621075@mail.yahoo.com> <8f124dbf-bcac-df13-c92e-caa7e247a75c@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Resend - too many recipients... On 7/2/2020 2:13 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > Don't you get water pooling in the canopy itself when it rains?? I do > with my heavy EZ-up brand ones.? It did stay in place at Mid-O, just > filled with water.? But I've had the anchor point in one corner break > due to wind at another event.? Seems like it needs a vent in the top > to let the wind out to keep the wind load down. > > - Tony > > On 7/2/2020 2:03 PM, David Gott wrote: >> +1 for what Mike said. ?I have an easy up canopy that I didn?t have >> strapped down and blew across an airfield at an autocross. ?Bought >> two new crossbars and that was over 10 years ago that I had the >> incident. ?It?s getting a little tired from wear, but I?ve had it 15 >> years or so. ? Held up at Mid Ohio with it strapped to the trailer, a >> tire, and my overly heavy trailer hitch bar. >> >> Dave G >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> >> >> On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 3:00 PM, Michael Moore >> wrote: >> >> I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one >> survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing >> (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) >> >> You can also get replacement parts if needed. >> >> For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a >> bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands >> wind really well. >> >> Thanks >> >> Mike >> >> Michael T. Moore, CPA >> >> 3255 West 26^th Street >> >> Erie, PA 16506 >> >> Phone: 814-616-8652? ext 100 >> >> Fax: 888-865-5279 >> >> Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com >> >> This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally >> privileged information intended only for the use of the >> recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended >> recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, >> distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly >> prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender >> immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. >> >> *From:*Fot *On Behalf Of *Barr, Scott >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM >> *To:* bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews >> ; Amici Triumphi >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive >> canopy.? You get what you pay for, I suppose. >> >> Scott (B) >> >> *From:*Fot > > *On Behalf Of *bfloyd6677 >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM >> *To:* Tony Drews > >; Amici Triumphi > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice.? Just ordered a >> second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. >> >> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable >> smartphone >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> >> From: Tony Drews > >> >> Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) >> >> To: Amici Triumphi > >> >> Subject: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually >> handle wind >> and rain? >> >> Thanks, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Jul 2 13:59:16 2020 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:59:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Canopy question References: <267B2EFF-E304-4B26-8B87-032855D5EB56@att.net> Message-ID: <9B692BB9-0A4D-413B-AB2E-42DF61BFD90B@att.net> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Paul Ricco > Date: July 2, 2020 at 2:58:38 PM CDT > To: Michael Moore > Cc: "Barr, Scott" , bfloyd6677 , Tony Drews , Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > ?We have had excellent success with the Mid-High level Canopies from Eurmax. Ours have the hex shaped telescoping legs. > > 1. Very sturdy and well built. > 2. All parts are available for replacement. So you do not have to toss them if one part gets damaged. > 3. Good choice of stock colors > 4. Free shipping. > > Ours are 5 years old and we have not had any issues. They have been out in some big storms. > > We did buy some really have duty stakes that are 18? long and we use ratchet tie downs to secure it to the stakes. > > Good luck. > > Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jul 2, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Michael Moore wrote: >>> >> ? >> I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) >> >> You can also get replacement parts if needed. >> >> For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> Michael T. Moore, CPA >> 3255 West 26th Street >> Erie, PA 16506 >> >> Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100 >> Fax: 888-865-5279 >> Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com >> >> This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. >> >> >> >> From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott >> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM >> To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. >> >> Scott (B) >> >> From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM >> To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. >> >> >> >> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Tony Drews >> Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Amici Triumphi >> Subject: [Fot] Canopy question >> >> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind >> and rain? >> >> Thanks, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 6t9gt6 at toast.net Thu Jul 2 14:08:21 2020 From: 6t9gt6 at toast.net (Stephen Jones) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 16:08:21 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Securing an EZup. Message-ID: >From Stephen Jones Most EZups are a disaster waiting to happen in a wind of more than 8-10 mph. A 15-20 mph gust will have you chasing it down the paddock unless well secured. A 12 mile per hour wind will generate 86lbs of force/sq.Ft. x the area of the covering. So a 12x12 EZup. could generate up to 1032 lbs of force. Just securing it with 25 lb weights is unworthy of the pressure created by the wind.( If you are a sailor, you know what a little gust can do.) As mentioned in previous posts, start with 5 gallon water buckets (8.3 lbs/gallon) at each corner, and tie it taunt to the upper frame of the EZup. Helps if you know your proper knots. This helps transfer the wind force to the ground. Just weighting the foot is inefficient because much of the force is wasted just holding down the ground. Gravity has that covered. The next step is to secure topside belly lines over the EZup. Use separate buckets, (or alternative tie off ) and place them at the corners. Toss lines diagonally over the top and secure them tight. This will reduce the billowing effect of the wind and the pressure. You can also tie to a car or?? but it really gets displeasing and embarrassingly hilarious when someone makes the beer run with the EZup in tow. For the engineer nerds, and there are many among us go to: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wind-load-d_1775.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Thu Jul 2 14:12:48 2020 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 20:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Canopy question References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> I always thought the?EZ-up Canopy was convenient,?looked nice, but was wimpy. ?Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. ?We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. ?We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). ?Serious stuff. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On?Thursday, July 2, 2020,?Allen Washatko??wrote: See Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu Jul 2 14:33:31 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 16:33:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Securing an EZup. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I once saw a photo of a tractor trailer race rig canopy that had been tied down to golf carts with ratchet straps at each post. There was a wind/rain storm and the entire canopy, 3-4 golf carts included, flipped over the top of the trailer and the carts were hanging by the straps on the other side. My takeaway is that in the event of a big wind, take down the canopy. Nothing will secure it in a really big blow. On Jul 2, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Stephen Jones <6t9gt6 at toast.net> wrote: From Stephen Jones Most EZups are a disaster waiting to happen in a wind of more than 8-10 mph. A 15-20 mph gust will have you chasing it down the paddock unless well secured. A 12 mile per hour wind will generate 86lbs of force/sq.Ft. x the area of the covering. So a 12x12 EZup. could generate up to 1032 lbs of force. Just securing it with 25 lb weights is unworthy of the pressure created by the wind.( If you are a sailor, you know what a little gust can do.) As mentioned in previous posts, start with 5 gallon water buckets (8.3 lbs/gallon) at each corner, and tie it taunt to the upper frame of the EZup. Helps if you know your proper knots. This helps transfer the wind force to the ground. Just weighting the foot is inefficient because much of the force is wasted just holding down the ground. Gravity has that covered. The next step is to secure topside belly lines over the EZup. Use separate buckets, (or alternative tie off ) and place them at the corners. Toss lines diagonally over the top and secure them tight. This will reduce the billowing effect of the wind and the pressure. You can also tie to a car or?? but it really gets displeasing and embarrassingly hilarious when someone makes the beer run with the EZup in tow. For the engineer nerds, and there are many among us go to: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wind-load-d_1775.html _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Jul 2 14:34:24 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:34:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement.? Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ.? I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms. Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup.? It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn.? Also water pools in the canopy.? But it's great for shading from the sun.? The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection.? :) What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up.? The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though.? Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment.? Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run. - Tony On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: > I always thought the?EZ-up Canopy was convenient,?looked nice, but was > wimpy. ?Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. > > We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for > poles. ?We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. ?We used HD > stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). > ?Serious stuff. > > Bill Dentinger > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On?Thursday, July 2, 2020,?Allen Washatko??wrote: > > See Paul Ricco > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews > wrote: > > > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually > handle wind and rain? > > > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Thu Jul 2 14:47:26 2020 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:47:26 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> In many years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I?ve gone through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them down enough the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much gave up since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with fabricated corners that attaches to the trailer like Jason Ostrowski?s. It?s pretty impressive how much wind it can take. We get some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the rockies. Jim g From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM To: Bill Dentinger Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement. Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ. I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms. Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup. It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn. Also water pools in the canopy. But it's great for shading from the sun. The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection. :) What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up. The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though. Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment. Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run. - Tony On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but was wimpy. Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). Serious stuff. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Thursday, July 2, 2020, Allen Washatko wrote: See Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews > wrote: > > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponobill at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 15:24:41 2020 From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:24:41 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> References: <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1069422137.1741262.1593720768852@mail.yahoo.com> <7c258ead-3725-ac64-6b81-eca8567cb560@tonydrews.com> <009201d650b1$feec2290$fcc467b0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <984C25C8-4EC4-429B-A9A1-1B6DB7334E35@ponostyle.com> I live in the Columbia Gorge, one of the windiest inland places on earth. People who don?t live here come and set up their EZ Ups with stakes, buckets of concrete, dirt screws, whatever. If the wind comes up to what we call ?nuking? the canopy will wind up somewhere in Idaho. The power of the wind increases as the square of velocity. You could get a Cirque de Soleil style circus tent and a crew of twenty to stake it down, or just take your EZ down. EZ-up--EZ down. If I?m using it as a car cover I lower it and tie it to the roll bar. So far, Peyote hasn?t blown to any nearby states. Nothing i know will prevent the canopy from dumping a bucket of ice cold water down your back when you?re trying to push the water belly out with a broom. > On Jul 2, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > > In many years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I?ve gone through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them down enough > the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much gave up since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with fabricated corners > that attaches to the trailer like Jason Ostrowski?s. It?s pretty impressive how much wind it can take. > We get some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the rockies. > Jim g > > From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM > To: Bill Dentinger > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement. Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ. I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms. > Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup. It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn. Also water pools in the canopy. But it's great for shading from the sun. The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection. :) > What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up. The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though. Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment. Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run. > - Tony > On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: >> I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but was wimpy. Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. >> >> We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). Serious stuff. >> >> Bill Dentinger >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >> >> On Thursday, July 2, 2020, Allen Washatko wrote: >> >>> See Paul Ricco >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews > wrote: >>> > >>> > ?Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? >>> > >>> > Thanks, Tony Drews >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fot at autox.team.net >>> > >>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>> > >>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive? http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko at wi.rr.com >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive? http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Packs down into a smaller bundle than an EZup. -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of fot-request at autox.team.net Sent: 02 July 2020 19:00 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 216 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's why hurricanes and tornadoes are so damned destructive. *Total wind power, P_t = (?AC_i ^3 )/2* Where, ? = density of air A = swept area perpendicular to wind direction C_i = incoming wind velocity Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's why hurricanes and tornadoes are so damned destructive. Total wind power, Pt = (?ACi3)/2 ? Where, ? = density of air A = swept area perpendicular to wind direction Ci = incoming wind velocity Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Thu Jul 2 13:03:41 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 19:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: References: <579299d0-dd8e-fd83-f8b3-ec31e8d6d1fc@tonydrews.com> <20200702183704.CB4CDA2540@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1924244355.340723.1593716621075@mail.yahoo.com> +1 for what Mike said. ?I have an easy up canopy that I didn?t have strapped down and blew across an airfield at an autocross. ?Bought two new crossbars and that was over 10 years ago that I had the incident. ?It?s getting a little tired from wear, but I?ve had it 15 years or so. ? Held up at Mid Ohio with it strapped to the trailer, a tire, and my overly heavy trailer hitch bar. Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 3:00 PM, Michael Moore wrote: #yiv4576275516 #yiv4576275516 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv4576275516 #yiv4576275516 p.yiv4576275516MsoNormal, #yiv4576275516 li.yiv4576275516MsoNormal, #yiv4576275516 div.yiv4576275516MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv4576275516 a:link, #yiv4576275516 span.yiv4576275516MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4576275516 .yiv4576275516MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv4576275516 div.yiv4576275516WordSection1 {}#yiv4576275516 I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) ? You can also get replacement parts if needed. ? For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. ? Thanks Mike ? Michael T. Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th Street Erie, PA 16506 ? Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 Email:???mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com ? This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. ? ? ? From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question ? Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy.? You get what you pay for, I suppose. ? Scott (B) ? From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question ? Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice.? Just ordered a second unit to tie together with an integral gutter. ? ? ? Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone ? ? -------- Original message -------- From: Tony Drews Date: 7/2/20 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] Canopy question ? Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archivehttp://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bfloyd6677 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Jul 2 13:58:38 2020 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:58:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Canopy question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <267B2EFF-E304-4B26-8B87-032855D5EB56@att.net> We have had excellent success with the Mid-High level Canopies from Eurmax. Ours have the hex shaped telescoping legs. 1. Very sturdy and well built. 2. All parts are available for replacement. So you do not have to toss them if one part gets damaged. 3. Good choice of stock colors 4. Free shipping. Ours are 5 years old and we have not had any issues. They have been out in some big storms. We did buy some really have duty stakes that are 18? long and we use ratchet tie downs to secure it to the stakes. Good luck. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Michael Moore wrote: > > ? > I have used the actual EZ-UP canopy for years, my first one survived 8 years of tailgating at PSU, then 5 years of racing (until I burned a hole on it from exhaust when in trailer) > > You can also get replacement parts if needed. > > For $200 you get 10x10 canopy, four side curtains, steaks and a bag to roll it around in. It is heavier than most but withstands wind really well. > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 3255 West 26th Street > Erie, PA 16506 > > Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100 > Fax: 888-865-5279 > Email: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com > > This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. > > > > From: Fot On Behalf Of Barr, Scott > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:53 PM > To: bfloyd6677 ; Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > Looks like they can sell you a very sturdy and very expensive canopy. You get what you pay for, I suppose. > > Scott (B) > > From: Fot On Behalf Of bfloyd6677 > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 1:33 PM > To: Tony Drews ; Amici Triumphi > Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question > > Yes EUR-max has a HD line that are very nice. 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Moore, CPA 3255 West 26th Street Erie, PA 16506 Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 Email:??? mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 4:42 PM To: Amici Triumphi Subject: [Fot] In car videos from Mid-Ohio races last weekend Here are my in-car videos.? Both races were a good time. Kas Cup Sat: https://youtu.be/NHjsgbK5cc4 Sun feature: https://youtu.be/rjeIgYtMVM4 Regards, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com From tony at tonydrews.com Sat Jul 4 13:04:59 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 14:04:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] In car videos from Mid-Ohio races last weekend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No sheet, but have the results from the "Race Monitor" app that SVRA feeds.? Screenshots from my phone attached... Regards, Tony On 7/4/2020 1:31 PM, Michael Moore wrote: > Anybody have a time sheet from Sundays race they can post > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 3255 West 26th Street > Erie, PA 16506 > > Phone:? 814-616-8652? ext 100 > Fax:??????? 888-865-5279 > Email:??? mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com > > This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot On Behalf Of Tony Drews > Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 4:42 PM > To: Amici Triumphi > Subject: [Fot] In car videos from Mid-Ohio races last weekend > > Here are my in-car videos.? 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If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message. From: Fot On Behalf Of David Gott Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 PM To: Michael Porter ; Ponostyle ; Jim Gray Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question *takes notes, applies to TR4 top speed* LOL Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:52 PM, Michael Porter > wrote: On 7/2/2020 3:24 PM, Ponostyle wrote: The power of the wind increases as the square of velocity. Umm, actually, wind power increases with the cube of the velocity. Double the wind speed and the power goes up by a factor of eight. It's why hurricanes and tornadoes are so damned destructive. Total wind power, Pt = (?ACi3)/2 Where, ? = density of air A = swept area perpendicular to wind direction Ci = incoming wind velocity Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhassall at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 13:07:33 2020 From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:07:33 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Help pls: shirt order Message-ID: Amici, Ted needs a Men's Medium shirt. If anyone received a Men's Medium which they didn't order, or if anyone has one extra they're willing to send to Ted, pls contact him. Ted's # is 419.384.3022. Thanks! jim -- W4BEA The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson I sometimes feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entertained is totally the way to go! ;-) J. Stoll -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 14:06:08 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:06:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Help pls: shirt order In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I need an XL. There has been some discussion of another run. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 6, 2020, at 2:08 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > > ? > Amici, > Ted needs a Men's Medium shirt. If anyone received a Men's Medium which they didn't order, or if anyone has one extra they're willing to send to Ted, pls contact him. Ted's # is 419.384.3022. > > Thanks! > > jim > > -- > W4BEA > > The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. > Thomas Jefferson > > I sometimes feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entertained is totally the way to go! ;-) > J. Stoll > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 Begin forwarded message: > From: James J Dolan > Date: July 7, 2020 at 8:40:35 AM CDT > To: Joe Alexander > Subject: Collecting videos > > ? > Joe, > We need to make an effort to get some of the drivers race video footage. > I looked at the video I returned to Linney with the cameras and there is not much good in there, other than the 360 camera. > I mailed him a card with my footage today. > No one returned the yellow sheets to me with cards. Maybe they mailed them directly, but I think we should remind them to send stuff to John. > > Can we put out an email to the racers to send him video? > Tony Drews, Sam, Alex in the white GT6 gridded in 2nd and 3rd had front and rear cameras. > These drivers offer up some video footage and get themselves in the movie. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?d like to show every battle and pass that I can, not just the leader action. I really appreciate every effort to get me what you can. If you send me footage you WILL be in the movie. Many thanks. -john John Linney Classic Motor Films https://classicmotorfilms.com 408 887 8105 > On Jul 7, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > ? > FOT Kastner Cup Racers: > > We need racers to send in their in car videos for the Kastner Cup Documentary that is being done by Motorsports Films (John Linney). See Jim Dolan?s appeal below. > > This is a very significant effort. > > It will also include an audio interview with Kas, some past footage, and descriptions of drivers and cars. > > It may also find its way to a monitor at the newly formed British Sports Car Museum. > > Seal your place in history by getting your videos in. John is working feverishly, but Covid free. > > Thank you. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: James J Dolan >> Date: July 7, 2020 at 8:40:35 AM CDT >> To: Joe Alexander >> Subject: Collecting videos >> >> ? >> Joe, >> We need to make an effort to get some of the drivers race video footage. >> I looked at the video I returned to Linney with the cameras and there is not much good in there, other than the 360 camera. >> I mailed him a card with my footage today. >> No one returned the yellow sheets to me with cards. Maybe they mailed them directly, but I think we should remind them to send stuff to John. >> >> Can we put out an email to the racers to send him video? >> Tony Drews, Sam, Alex in the white GT6 gridded in 2nd and 3rd had front and rear cameras. >> These drivers offer up some video footage and get themselves in the movie. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 12:09:55 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:09:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? Message-ID: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. Sean, Tony? Anyone? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From kkjjk at aol.com Tue Jul 7 12:22:16 2020 From: kkjjk at aol.com (JAY DE POL) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:22:16 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? In-Reply-To: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D6BF0A0-8588-495B-8CC9-A345ED4BABFB@aol.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 836832 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 801737 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1347599894.1826943.1594146416308@mail.yahoo.com> This isn?t ideal, but it?s off of my Speedhive/Mylaps account: https://speedhive.mylaps.com/Sessions/5776298#all-results? Grid sheets were hard to get as they weren?t posted due to COVID..I hope that helps! Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 2:10 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. Sean, Tony? Anyone? Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Jul 7 12:27:01 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:27:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? In-Reply-To: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59546f4d-7180-8e86-33f3-ded3c84c6f7f@tonydrews.com> Screenshots attached. Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:09 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. > > Sean, Tony? Anyone? > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200703_161041000_iOS.png Type: image/png Size: 582799 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <8DC2A983-995F-43B5-AA78-7EDA7E6FE189@gmail.com> References: <8DC2A983-995F-43B5-AA78-7EDA7E6FE189@gmail.com> Message-ID: Be sure to use a version sorted by lap time, not by finishing order.? Jay's screenshots show finishing order - I thought I qualified 7th until I found the button to flip it to time order. My screenshots are in time order.? Not picking on Jay! Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:44 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > From rick.parent at att.net Tue Jul 7 14:58:47 2020 From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 20:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Qualifying Grid. Who has copy for Kastner Cup for John Linney? In-Reply-To: <59546f4d-7180-8e86-33f3-ded3c84c6f7f@tonydrews.com> References: <545A7F5C-3921-40DB-A63C-7BC0F93E02B1@gmail.com> <59546f4d-7180-8e86-33f3-ded3c84c6f7f@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <201669665.1906519.1594155527478@mail.yahoo.com> I assume you are talking about Saturdays race? If so the grid was set by the best times of the qualifying session, see below. Also see the attached grid sheet by car number for the grid guys. If you want the grid sheet for Sundays race it was set by the finishing position from Saturdays race. General (Mad Dog) Mattis"Be prepared to reverse decisions as new data comes in, then replace assumptions?with knowledge" On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 02:32:55 PM EDT, Tony Drews wrote: Screenshots attached. Regards, Tony On 7/7/2020 1:09 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > John needs qualify grid for his Kastner Cup Documentary. > > Sean, Tony? 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I didn't realize you could do that!-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2020 2:50 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Qualifying. Thanks. What a group! Got it....from several sources. Be sure to use a version sorted by lap time, not by finishing order.? Jay's screenshots show finishing order - I thought I qualified 7th until I found the button to flip it to time order. My screenshots are in time order.? Not picking on Jay! 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I?m going to preserve as much of the period look and set up as possible and run it in the historic group in CVAR in Texas and future FoT events. I?m not going to restore it, just freshen the mechanical and safety bits. I?m even going to keep the awful paint job that was literally put on with a brush. That?s character that you can?t re-create. And my apologies, the FOT that helped me is Jim Dooley, sorry for getting your name wrong. Dusty Nicholson > On Jun 23, 2020, at 9:01 PM, dustin nicholson wrote: > > ?Amici, > > Does anyone know this car? I bought it today in St. Louis and know a little bit of the history but I?m hoping someone on the list will remember it and can tell me more. > > It was very competitive in SCCA Midwest in the 60s and early 70s. Ran in the American Road Race of Champions (Runoffs) in 1966 at Riverside and again in 1969 at Daytona. That was the last year it was held at Daytona before moving to Road Atlanta. The car DNF?d after 14 laps with the 7th fastest lap time. Pretty good for a 14-year-old car. The race and therefore championship was won in 16 laps by the ex-Tim Suddard Group 44 GT6. > > Driver/builder/owner was Bill Boemler. No logbook remains. The only other race I know of was at Garnett in 1972, but obviously it raced a lot more than these three races that I know of. It?s believed to have stopped racing around that 1972 race and has practically not been touched since. It?s in rough shape but is a time capsule for how a car was prepped 50 years ago. The car had the nickname ?The Flying Bedstead? due to its unique role bar. > > Attached is a photo of it at Daytona in 1969 and a photo of it now. > > Sidenote 1: The Vin number is the 15th TR3 and was likely made on the first day TR3?s went into production. > > Sidenote 2: The seller had a Triumph buddy with him today to help unload my FP spitfire that was part of the deal, and load up the TR3. That buddy turned out to be FOT! 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John Davies Lancaster UK (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of fot-request at autox.team.net Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." From john at linneyweb.com Wed Jul 8 09:31:14 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 08:31:14 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> References: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <71DA2F9C-03B9-4405-A6D7-4F27CC84EF1D@linneyweb.com> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies wrote: > > ?FAO John Linney, > John, > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I > hope he has more! > > John Davies > Lancaster UK > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot On Behalf Of > fot-request at autox.team.net > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 > > Send Fot mailing list submissions to > fot at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fot-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fot-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com > > > From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:21:26 2020 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:21:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: <71DA2F9C-03B9-4405-A6D7-4F27CC84EF1D@linneyweb.com> References: <043101d654f5$c86dad40$594907c0$@btinternet.com> <71DA2F9C-03B9-4405-A6D7-4F27CC84EF1D@linneyweb.com> Message-ID: I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney wrote: > Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m > incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john > > > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies > wrote: > > > > ?FAO John Linney, > > John, > > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for > as > > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their > > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being > > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I > > hope he has more! > > > > John Davies > > Lancaster UK > > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fot On Behalf Of > > fot-request at autox.team.net > > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 > > To: fot at autox.team.net > > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 > > > > Send Fot mailing list submissions to > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > fot-request at autox.team.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > fot-owner at autox.team.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 13:00:32 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:00:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <256E54CA-C235-4FBC-BF98-D9F2298FE247@gmail.com> Lessons Learned. We should have been doing Bio and Provenance sheets early on in the Kastner Cup Series. Next year? Thanks Shawn Frank, Media Maven. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: > > ? > I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on > > www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs > > and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. > > I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. > > I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... > > Shawn Frank > The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor > North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner > Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead > Continued Legacy Photo - Owner > Iowa British Car Club > FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 > Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver > 515-339-4228 > > > '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" > '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 > '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney wrote: >> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john >> >> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies wrote: >> > >> > ?FAO John Linney, >> > John, >> > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as >> > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their >> > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being >> > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I >> > hope he has more! >> > >> > John Davies >> > Lancaster UK >> > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Fot On Behalf Of >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 >> > To: fot at autox.team.net >> > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 >> > >> > Send Fot mailing list submissions to >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > fot-owner at autox.team.net >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Wed Jul 8 13:55:46 2020 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:55:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] RMVR Race Against Kids Cancer Message-ID: <00ba01d65561$c5b12d40$511387c0$@comcast.net> If anyone is looking for a race next month our biggest race of the year RAKC is August 1st & 2nd at High Plains Raceway. So far there are 33 small bore cars signed up including six Triumphs. If you happen to be in the neighborhood we'd love to have you. http://rmvr.com/ https://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.status/uidEvent/D84F5E43 -9BCA-73E1-C4D003DCAFE61BAE https://www.highplainsraceway.com/ Jim Gray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at linneyweb.com Thu Jul 9 10:45:59 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:45:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: <256E54CA-C235-4FBC-BF98-D9F2298FE247@gmail.com> References: <256E54CA-C235-4FBC-BF98-D9F2298FE247@gmail.com> Message-ID: The FOT web site would seem to be the perfect long-term place for bios - a page per driver? -john > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > Lessons Learned. We should have been doing Bio and Provenance sheets early on in the Kastner Cup Series. > > Next year? > > Thanks Shawn Frank, Media Maven. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: >> >> ? >> I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on >> >> www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs >> >> and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. >> >> I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. >> >> I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... >> >> Shawn Frank >> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor >> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner >> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead >> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner >> Iowa British Car Club >> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 >> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver >> 515-339-4228 >> >> >> '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" >> '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 >> '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney > wrote: >> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john >> >> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies > wrote: >> > >> > ?FAO John Linney, >> > John, >> > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as >> > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their >> > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being >> > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I >> > hope he has more! >> > >> > John Davies >> > Lancaster UK >> > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Fot > On Behalf Of >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 >> > To: fot at autox.team.net >> > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 >> > >> > Send Fot mailing list submissions to >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > fot-request at autox.team.net >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > fot-owner at autox.team.net >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Thu Jul 9 16:11:42 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:11:42 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <740A3DF8-D690-40CE-A464-8F3676E20A5B@aol.com> See the HRG ?cars and Drivers? pages. Mike Harmuth has done a good job of making bios entertaining reading! https://historicracinggroup.com/cars-and-driver-info.php Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:47 PM, John Linney wrote: > > ?The FOT web site would seem to be the perfect long-term place for bios - a page per driver? -john > >> On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> >> Lessons Learned. We should have been doing Bio and Provenance sheets early on in the Kastner Cup Series. >> >> Next year? >> >> Thanks Shawn Frank, Media Maven. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> I will present a post with every Kastner Cup driver with accompanying info on >>> >>> www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs >>> >>> and will release posts, one at a time until all drivers have been presented. I started with Mike Munson, Kastner Cup 2020 Champion and have started on the Peggy Kastner Performance Award recipients. After the PerformanceAward recipients are completed, the drivers will be presented based on finishing positions. >>> >>> I am working on articles for SVRA, Moss Motoring, and of course my publication, The Vintage Triumph Magazine (Vintage Triumph Register) and am reaching out to other places as well. >>> >>> I hope this helps. Sorry for any delays. Life, the magazine, and exhaustion have contributed considerably... >>> >>> Shawn Frank >>> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor >>> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner >>> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead >>> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner >>> Iowa British Car Club >>> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 >>> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver >>> 515-339-4228 >>> >>> >>> '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" >>> '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 >>> '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 AM John Linney wrote: >>>> Thanks John. Shawn has been very generous in sharing footage. I?m incorporating whatever I can. Also, hopefully, some nice surprises. -john >>>> >>>> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:03 AM, John Davaies wrote: >>>> > >>>> > ?FAO John Linney, >>>> > John, >>>> > Looking forward to your video from 4000 miles away, please ask Shawn for as >>>> > many of his paddock vignettes? Seeing the cars , and their >>>> > owners/drivers in the paddock is something you don't get, except by being >>>> > there, while track footage is often seen. He put a few online, but I >>>> > hope he has more! >>>> > >>>> > John Davies >>>> > Lancaster UK >>>> > (Kastner entrant, Frustrated by Covid!) >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: Fot On Behalf Of >>>> > fot-request at autox.team.net >>>> > Sent: 07 July 2020 19:00 >>>> > To: fot at autox.team.net >>>> > Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 221 >>>> > >>>> > Send Fot mailing list submissions to >>>> > fot at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> > fot-request at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> > fot-owner at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >>>> > "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > fot at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> > >>>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john at linneyweb.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Fri Jul 10 08:13:01 2020 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:13:01 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Help ID this shop References: Message-ID: <68A03DC3-4236-4645-8813-7B7B40FC604C@columbus.rr.com> > Metal worker maybe a radiator shop doing repair on chromed brass grille? Jack?s Lomdom > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Grill Manufactur's Plate stamped 21.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 93071 bytes Desc: not available URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 08:03:31 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:03:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5329DA11-CBE0-4505-8C67-726F4DA5163C@gmail.com> This is a Triumph Service Announcement (TSA). From Kas. Attention Texas FOT in particular. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Kas Kastner > Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:09 AM > Subject: New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. > To: for at autox.team.net > > > Mke Downs , the 1967 Daytona Runnoffs Champion with the Group 44 Triumph GT-6 Mikehas moved his complete race/ restoration shop to TEXAS. Yup, he moved from Sonoma California where he specialized in Vintage Car restoration, repairs, assembly, manufacturing, any and all parts. > > In New Braunfels Texas Mike is close to the racing action and will be happy to chat with you on your racing and restoration problems. By the way Mike is a really nice man too. How could it get better. Give Mike at a call at 830-312-7740. > Never be beaten by equipment. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Sat Jul 11 13:44:57 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:44:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. In-Reply-To: <5329DA11-CBE0-4505-8C67-726F4DA5163C@gmail.com> References: <5329DA11-CBE0-4505-8C67-726F4DA5163C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Right down the street, at least the way we measure down here. Will have to make a trip down to visit him soon. Thanks for sharing. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 11, 2020, at 9:07 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > ? > This is a Triumph Service Announcement (TSA). From Kas. > > Attention Texas FOT in particular. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kas Kastner >> Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:09 AM >> Subject: New shop in Texas, an outright advertisement. >> To: for at autox.team.net >> >> >> Mke Downs , the 1967 Daytona Runnoffs Champion with the Group 44 Triumph GT-6 Mikehas moved his complete race/ restoration shop to TEXAS. Yup, he moved from Sonoma California where he specialized in Vintage Car restoration, repairs, assembly, manufacturing, any and all parts. >> >> In New Braunfels Texas Mike is close to the racing action and will be happy to chat with you on your racing and restoration problems. By the way Mike is a really nice man too. How could it get better. Give Mike at a call at 830-312-7740. >> Never be beaten by equipment. >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The several years? build up to the race Gives some interesting insights into the personalities of Dreyfus, Carriciola, Chiron and other famous drivers of the day. A real ?page turner!? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Wed Jul 15 06:32:54 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 07:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 bumpers Message-ID: <2C75BAA7-C441-4DB0-B9D0-D5A4BA4C4878@icloud.com> My son and I are restoring his storage unit TR3. We are doing a shake down of all the parts bins discovering the missing bits. Currently looking for front and rear bumpers. Please let me know if you have any lying around that looking for a good project car to call home. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone From dos_gusanos at msn.com Wed Jul 15 07:09:32 2020 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:09:32 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR3 bumpers In-Reply-To: <2C75BAA7-C441-4DB0-B9D0-D5A4BA4C4878@icloud.com> References: <2C75BAA7-C441-4DB0-B9D0-D5A4BA4C4878@icloud.com> Message-ID: I just bought two storage unit TR3's, probably have a bunch of that stuff that all needs chrome..............Cheers, Henry Morrison, Salt Lake City Sent from Outlook ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Greg Blake Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 6:32 AM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] TR3 bumpers My son and I are restoring his storage unit TR3. We are doing a shake down of all the parts bins discovering the missing bits. Currently looking for front and rear bumpers. Please let me know if you have any lying around that looking for a good project car to call home. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos at msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From agb at compsnw.com Thu Jul 16 19:02:22 2020 From: agb at compsnw.com (Alec Buchan) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:02:22 -0700 Subject: [Fot] hauling help Message-ID: <6dc9d0b3-ed47-c9f7-6cb7-f14c81b5dfea@compsnw.com> Still hoping to find somebody with an empty trailer in order to transport a Triumph Herald from Twin Falls, ID (Boise area) to the Seattle area, anywhere from Tacoma to Bellingham. Thanks in advance Alec Buchan, Bellingham. From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Mon Jul 20 01:37:30 2020 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 17:37:30 +1000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear suspension query Message-ID: i'm soon to "refresh" the back end of our old GT6 Mk2 race car and i'd dearly like to hear from successful racers of this model before heading down any particular path Currently it has home made lower wishbones & rear upper arm to give easier adjustment for toe and camber. it has a 1 leaf upper spring and koni race shocks with coil springs The upper transverse leaf is mostly there to satisfy a period race rule that says it must stay there, but the bulk of the springing performed by the coils (350lb/in from memory) Some folk have suggested the single upper leaf get replaced with a swing spring, but i'm not sure i see the benefit on a race car is there a 'collective wisdom" on this subject for the Mk2 cars?? thanks Terry O'Beirne Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.r.davies at btinternet.com Mon Jul 20 12:49:22 2020 From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (John Davaies) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:49:22 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 232 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f101d65ec6$7be921e0$73bb65a0$@btinternet.com> GT6 suspension If you have wishbones,, then you are simulating the Rotaflex modification done in response to criticism of the swing axle design of early cars. Then Triumph had the Brilliant idea of the swing spring, to make the car soft in roll, but hard in bump. The advantage was in lightness, no heavy cast iron wishbone, and cheapness. If you have fabricatd (light?) wishbones (and don't intend to go into production) there is nothing to be gained by going swing spring. Indeed, swing spring and variable length drive shafts (just won't mix! On this subject, I recently had a correspondence with Mark Ortiz, the chassis consultant to many Nascar and other US teams. Racecar Engineering is an excellent journal, which I recommend! And Mark is a regular columnist, "The Consultant". A recent column dealt with the Chevrolet Corvair, that gained an awful reputation for poor design and on-road lethality. Ortiz discussed the swing axle that the Corvair had, and shared with other cars. In the absence of a Correspondence column in the magazine, I wrote to him: Mark, Thank you for your interesting article on the Corvair, (Racecar Engineering, August 2020, p.51 Corvair Vindication?) and the swing axle design that so attracted Nader's ire. As you say, that design and its shortcomings were well known in the 60s. You listed several manufacturers, so attracted by this cheap and simple suspension as to use it in their cars. But you omitted the car whose designers evolved the swing axle more successfully and cheaply than most, Standard Triumph. They chose the swing axle for their 'small-chassis' series of models, the Herald, Spitfire, GT6 and Vitesse. Motoring journalists knew as well as designers how to get such an axle to 'jack-up' and did so immediately, giving the cars a poor reputation. Triumph replied for the more powerful GT6 and Vitesse by adding a lower wishbone, but the design was heavy and expensive. As you say in your article, "what works best for a swing axle is stiff springing in ride. and soft springing in roll" but you only gave Formula Vee as the example. Triumph came up with the "swing spring" that did just that, by allowing the transverse spring to pivot in the centre, to reduce the roll resistance of later cars by 75% ! This most successful modification is, I believe , unique, and I feel that Triumph's ingenuity should have been recognised! Mark has been kind enough to answer me in his latest Chassis Newsletter, a regular email column that as he says he "sends out to promote my business, it is not my intention to spam my correspondents, and the newsletter is intended to be genuinely useful to its recipients." No doubt you do, Mark, you're not spamming me, and your article is most useful. Thank you! I hope other Triumpheros will be interested: THE TRIUMPH SWING SPRING The "swing spring" is one of many ways to skin this cat. The oldest I know of is Mercedes' third coil spring. For those unfamiliar with it, the swing spring is a transverse leaf spring similar to the one that the Spitfire/Herald suspension already had, only rubber mounted. This allows the spring to swing as the suspension displaces in roll, but the rubber resists this a bit. The spring itself is also made stiffer than the original. This allows the system to act like the original system with a camber compensator added, or maybe a bit better, with fewer parts. Also, although I have not investigated the patent situation surrounding this, I would surmise that the swing spring probably would be a patentable invention. The swing spring reduces the elastic roll resistance by about 75%, compared to (I guess) an identical leaf spring rigidly mounted. The system still has a lot of geometric roll resistance, and it still jacks quite a bit. Indeed, Triumph could have just mounted the spring so it could swing freely, eliminating rear elastic roll resistance entirely. This would make the system functionally equivalent to a "zero roll" setup on a Formula Vee. The system would still produce substantial geometric roll resistance, and accordingly considerable load transfer and jacking when cornering. However, I doubt that it would have been patentable like that. Another way to reduce the jacking and limit oversteer is to add front anti-roll bar stiffness. The less load transfer the rear has (meaning the more the front has), the less the rear swing axle system will jack. Depending on tires, road surface, and rear toe setting, swing axles can produce judder on the inside wheel when we reduce rear load transfer. I have seen this with Mk. 3 Spitfires, on the street, on street radials. This is sort of the Y-axis analog of rear wheel hop in braking with a lot of rear brake and anti-lift. Swing axles can also produce judder on the outside wheel. There is no way to make a swing axle suspension as good as more complex forms of independent suspension. The Triumph swing spring does not produce handling equal to the earlier GT 6 suspension. However, it is somewhat lighter, definitely cheaper, and a significant improvement over the earlier swing axle setup. And it achieves this essentially for free - really no added parts at all. So to that extent, it is indeed a clever solution. In theory, GM could likewise have used just a swinging leaf spring on the Corvair - basically just a multi-leaf camber compensator - and dispensed with the coil springs, although there might be structural reasons that wouldn't work, at least not without re-engineering the engine and transaxle mountings. Those mounts would then be holding the back of the car up, and there would also be significant bending loads applied to the transaxle and engine. -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of fot-request at autox.team.net Sent: 20 July 2020 19:00 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 103, Issue 232 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." From macdonaldp at rogers.com Tue Jul 21 08:28:17 2020 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 10:28:17 -0400 Subject: [Fot] FW: 1974 TR7 Race Car For Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01d65f6b$2d837e60$888a7b20$@rogers.com> The 1975 TR7 race car that I restored a while ago is up for sale. I sold it in 2012 to the current owner. I don?t think he has done much to the car except collected parts for a V8 conversion. Paul From: Boot 'n Bonnet All British Car Club [mailto:BNB-L at LISTS.QUEENSU.CA] On Behalf Of Brian Thomas Sent: July 21, 2020 8:14 AM To: BNB-L at LISTS.QUEENSU.CA Subject: 1974 TR7 Race Car For Sale Greg Kerr has a race car for sale ? 1974 Triumph TR7 with documented race history. Was raced successfully in the day by Cullingford Motors, a BL dealer located in Barrie. Restored to near show condition but needs work to go racing. About 90% complete. Eligible for VARAC road racing at Mosport, Shannonville, Calabogie, etc. Totally tricked out with rare works BL factory competition parts. Webers, 5 sp close ratio, fully adjustable rear suspension. I was going to convert to TR8 so also have two V8's with many competition parts such as pistons, camshaft, rockers, Holley 4bbl, headers, etc. Many spare parts including body panels. Too much to list. Custom tow bar to take it home if you don't have a trailer. $8500 for everything or $6500 if you only want the TR7. email me for photos. gregsk at bell.net Greg Kerr 613 478 1089. Tweed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/slaterptrs at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Jul 23 08:06:54 2020 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:06:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4382A9D3-CDB7-4C87-A62E-EFBB2D60B347@att.net> Second! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:50 AM, marty sukey wrote: > > ? > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell.pierce at lpl.com Thu Jul 23 08:09:05 2020 From: russell.pierce at lpl.com (Pierce, Russell) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:09:05 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: <5F2DC950-44ED-4AFA-8377-03B75EFAA405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <93333fd58fe34b4ab7cb276e7ad9bc82@P02HSVW-AXADV07.lpl.net> I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. [cid:image001.png at 01D660D9.4B30FE00] 314 Corder Road (478) 225-6750 Warner Robins, GA 31088 (478) 225-6740 fax www.GriggersWealth.com GriggersWealth at LPL.com Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. From: Fot On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM To: Terry Sopher ; FOT Subject: [Fot] Nomination I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? Marty Securities offered through LPL Financial Member FINRA/SIPC The information contained in this email message is being transmitted to and is intended for the use of only the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. 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Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY Off to continue finishing the ?58 Bugeye (street car) we rescued from the crusher. It (should) make its first official appearance at Lime Rock?s Sunday in the Park concours. > On Jul 23, 2020, at 9:50 AM, marty sukey wrote: > > ? > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Second!-- Jay and Kathy De PolDid he find out what the problem was with (I think)? his transmission??? -----Original Message----- From: Pierce, Russell To: marty sukey ; Terry Sopher ; FOT Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination #yiv0629689496 #yiv0629689496 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv0629689496 #yiv0629689496 p.yiv0629689496MsoNormal, #yiv0629689496 li.yiv0629689496MsoNormal, #yiv0629689496 div.yiv0629689496MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0629689496 a:link, #yiv0629689496 span.yiv0629689496MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0629689496 span.yiv0629689496EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv0629689496 .yiv0629689496MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv0629689496 div.yiv0629689496WordSection1 {}#yiv0629689496 I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. ? ? 314 Corder Road????????????????????????????????????????????????? (478) 225-6750 Warner Robins, GA? 31088?????????????????????????????????? (478) 225-6740 fax www.GriggersWealth.com???????????????????????????GriggersWealth at LPL.com ? Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. ? From: Fot On Behalf Ofmarty sukey Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM To: Terry Sopher ; FOT Subject: [Fot] Nomination ? I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio.? Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com.? How about a second? ? Marty ? ? ? 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Second!-- Jay and Kathy De Pol > Did he find out what the problem was with (I think) his transmission??? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pierce, Russell > To: marty sukey ; Terry Sopher ; FOT > Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination > > I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. > > > > 314 Corder Road (478) 225-6750 > Warner Robins, GA 31088 (478) 225-6740 fax > www.GriggersWealth.com GriggersWealth at LPL.com > > Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. > This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. > > From: Fot On Behalf Of marty sukey > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM > To: Terry Sopher ; FOT > Subject: [Fot] Nomination > > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > > > > Securities offered through LPL Financial Member FINRA/SIPC > > > The information contained in this email message is being transmitted to and is intended for the use of only the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby advised that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 08:46:34 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:46:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <32FA67F7-20CA-4017-B0CB-75EBBA51384A@gmail.com> References: <32FA67F7-20CA-4017-B0CB-75EBBA51384A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Cathy & I enjoyed meeting everyone and adding new friendships and look forward to future events! Best, Terry & Cathy > On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:41, Terry Sopher wrote: > > ? > Hi All, > > The flywheel bolts all sheared off. Bell housing is toast & The crank has multiple cracks. Sourcing parts now and having Andy Greene (he bought Ted Wentz?s Savannah Race & Engineering this June) put motor back together and new flywheel/clutch assembly. > > Looking at fall VDCA & SVRA schedules...definitely Roebling Road! > > Best, Terry > >>> On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:16, kkjjk at aol.com wrote: >>> >> ? >> We were paddacked on the other side of Terry. Very nice people and very nice car. Second!-- Jay and Kathy De Pol >> Did he find out what the problem was with (I think) his transmission??? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pierce, Russell >> To: marty sukey ; Terry Sopher ; FOT >> Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination >> >> I had the pleasure of parking next to him and his wife that weekend. A really great guy and excited about being a part of the FOT racing team. I Second that nomination. >> >> >> >> 314 Corder Road (478) 225-6750 >> Warner Robins, GA 31088 (478) 225-6740 fax >> www.GriggersWealth.com GriggersWealth at LPL.com >> >> Notice Regarding Entry of Orders: Do not place orders to buy or sell securities via email or voicemail. >> This and all other time sensitive requests should be placed directly with your LPL Representative at (478)-225-6750. >> >> From: Fot On Behalf Of marty sukey >> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:50 AM >> To: Terry Sopher ; FOT >> Subject: [Fot] Nomination >> >> I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? >> >> Marty >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Securities offered through LPL Financial Member FINRA/SIPC >> >> >> The information contained in this email message is being transmitted to and is intended for the use of only the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby advised that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk at aol.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 09:08:47 2020 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:08:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: <5F2DC950-44ED-4AFA-8377-03B75EFAA405@gmail.com> Message-ID: I second the Colonel! *Shawn Frank* *The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor VTR#94692North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - OwnerDes Moines Concours d'Elegance - RecruiterContinued Legacy Photo - OwnerIowa British Car ClubFriends of Triumph - MediaDrive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver515-339-4228'71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude"'65 Triumph TR4A IRS "Johnny"* On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 8:50 AM marty sukey wrote: > I would like to nominate Terry Sopher to our group of misfits. Terry raced > with us in his Spitfire last month at Mid-Ohio. Beautiful car and Terry is > just getting started in the downhill spiral we call vintage racing . His > email is terrysopher at gmail.com. How about a second? > > Marty > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bkahler1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 16:34:19 2020 From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:34:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] Randall Young In-Reply-To: <000001d66140$e0828660$a1879320$@uprichard.net> References: <000001d66140$e0828660$a1879320$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: FYI Sad news. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: andrew uprichard Date: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:31 PM Subject: [TR] Randall Young To: , 6-Pack I just got a call from Randall?s wife, Mei. Randall died 2 days ago. He was only 64. Very sad indeed. Mei asked me to let his Triumph friends know, so I have posted a note on TRE as well as this email. Anyone who knew Randall should feel free to post to other sites where he was active. Mei told me they are planning a funeral in the Midwest (Missouri, I believe, but she was very emotional and hard to follow). She said any friends who want to know more should call her on her cell phone: (562) 303 8007. Her address is 5754 Coke Avenue, Lakewood, CA 90712-1605. Rest in peace, Randall ? we will miss you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Jul 24 05:45:11 2020 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:45:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] RIP Randall Young. FOT. References: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F@cs.com> FOT: Many of you did not know Randall, but he was on the FOT List since the late 90s. He was one of exceptions to the list preference for ?racers only?. He had superior Triumph knowledge and was very helpful to many of us over the years. And so it goes....... Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jul 24 08:45:43 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:45:43 -0600 Subject: [Fot] RIP Randall Young. FOT. In-Reply-To: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F@cs.com> References: <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F.ref@cs.com> <6A8D9112-3178-4A1E-8C70-E7A7F4C3184F@cs.com> Message-ID: <51096d95-be88-6ebc-a14c-b180d5ee2fd6@bradakis.com> On 7/24/20 5:45 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > > Many of you did not know Randall, but he was on the FOT List since the late 90s. > > He was one of exceptions to the list preference for ?racers only?. He had superior Triumph knowledge and was very helpful to many of us over the years. > > And so it goes....... > Yes, 2020 delivers yet another solid kick to the groin.? Randall was the exception to many rules, no doubt. And here's a shot in the dark. On 7/24/20 3:46 AM, Lawarence Schwartz wrote: > Hello, Such sad news indeed. I was introduced to Randall many years > ago by the late ?FT? Fred Thomas . Such two true blue fine gentlemen. > Randall, there is a special place for you in heaven, RIP. ? Lawrence > Schwartz So does anyone have a photo of Fred and Randall together?? I had an idea for a project some years ago, and maybe I should get back to work on it. http://autox.team.net/memory.html mjb. From dkettler1 at charter.net Fri Jul 24 11:00:45 2020 From: dkettler1 at charter.net (dkettler1 at charter.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 12:00:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed Message-ID: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> All, I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side steering link for a Spitfire. Driver is a friend of Kent Prather so I am canvasing the list for Kent. Any help is appreciated. He would like to race this weekend. Thanks, Dave Kettler 920-946-7491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jul 24 11:42:36 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:42:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Sigh. Message-ID: Normally I don't need to reach for a box of tissues when doing a simple Unix command line task: [root at autox bin]# [root at autox bin]# ./remove_members --fromall -n tr3driver at ca.rr.com User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: fot. User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: the-local. User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: shop-talk. User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: triumphs. Thank you Randall Young for all you did for the lists, your steadfast support of Team Net and the Triumph community over the years.? You will be missed. mjb. From tr4abrad at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 12:12:15 2020 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:12:15 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Sigh. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark and all, I marveled for years at Randall?s knowledge of our beloved Triumphs. I may have met him at a singular SoCal club meeting in the mid-nineties but didn?t really connect with him until my Spitfire racer came up for sale in late 2017. He was there with Kas and I. He documented the day with his camera and sent me an image set I now cherish. Thank you and RIP Randall. Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > ? > Normally I don't need to reach for a box of tissues when doing a simple Unix command line task: > > [root at autox bin]# > [root at autox bin]# ./remove_members --fromall -n tr3driver at ca.rr.com > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: fot. > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: the-local. > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: shop-talk. > User `tr3driver at ca.rr.com' removed from list: triumphs. > > > Thank you Randall Young for all you did for the lists, your steadfast support of Team Net and the Triumph community over the years. You will be missed. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 12:34:19 2020 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:34:19 -0700 Subject: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed In-Reply-To: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> References: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <37FA2E86-C2A0-49C8-8D6C-43C44A4CD98A@gmail.com> Dave, By steering link, assuming that is a vertical link. Important to know which one, right or left and if it?s Spitfire or GT6 as many have been upgraded. Hope he finds what he needs. Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:00 AM, dkettler1 at charter.net wrote: > > ? > All, > > I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side steering link for a Spitfire. Driver is a friend of Kent Prather so I am canvasing the list for Kent. > > Any help is appreciated. He would like to race this weekend. > > Thanks, > > Dave Kettler > 920-946-7491 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Fot On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:54 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed On 7/24/20 11:00 AM, dkettler1 at charter.net wrote: > > All, > > I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side > steering link for a Spitfire. > What, exactly, is a 'steering link'?? Though I have a couple Spitfire parts cars in the yard I doubt I can get the exact piece removed and sent over a thousand miles away in time for the event. mjb. From bownes at seiri.com Fri Jul 24 15:03:31 2020 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:03:31 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Speaking of off topic... Message-ID: I've been cleaning out the garage and gave away a 64 Spit trans yesterday. I have left to get rid of: Spitfire 1500 trunk lid. stripped and ready to prime.paint on the top, original dark blue underneath. $100 obo Unknown 4 cylinder Land Rover engine left behind by Bill Calloccia when he went on ahead. $100 obo Both located in Troy, N.Y. You must pick up. I'd like for both of these to go to a good home. 100% of proceeds will go to funding team.net. Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkrantz77 at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 18:45:02 2020 From: rkrantz77 at comcast.net (Ron KRANTZ) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 20:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] spitfire steering link needed In-Reply-To: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> References: <01f801d661db$f9745090$ec5cf1b0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <396040643.81122.1595637903787@connect.xfinity.com> I have them but don't know how to get it to him in time. Ron Krantz Rek racing 248-917-7223 > On 07/24/2020 1:00 PM dkettler1 at charter.net wrote: > > > > All, > > > I am at Road America and there is a competitor in need of a right side steering link for a Spitfire. Driver is a friend of Kent Prather so I am canvasing the list for Kent. > > > Any help is appreciated. He would like to race this weekend. > > > Thanks, > > > Dave Kettler > > 920-946-7491 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkrantz77 at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 08:58:01 2020 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Odd Ball Parts In-Reply-To: <2123446860.6483712.1595861657920@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2123446860.6483712.1595861657920.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2123446860.6483712.1595861657920@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084082000.6489107.1595861881976@mail.yahoo.com> I am looking for an unusual part, and am hoping someone on the list can help me. As you know, there are 2 different kinds of lift-o-dot studs, one designed to screw into wood, like a wood screw, and the other meant to mount to metal with a machine thread and you put a nut on the back of it.? I am looking for the latter, with an unusually long threaded section.? The ones I have are a #10-32 thread and the threaded section is 9/16" long (picture attached).? I need some with a slightly longer threaded section (at least 3/4" long).? Would any of you happen to have any of these, or know where I might find some?? I need 4 of them. Thank you. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Picture - lift-o-dot stud1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1748428 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cak at dimebank.com Mon Jul 27 12:13:53 2020 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:13:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Odd Ball Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 7/27/20 11:00 AM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote: > As you know, there are 2 different kinds of lift-o-dot studs, one designed to screw into wood, like a wood screw, and the other meant to mount to metal with a machine thread and you put a nut on the back of it.? I am looking for the latter, with an unusually long threaded section.? The ones I have are a #10-32 thread and the threaded section is 9/16" long (picture attached).? I need some with a slightly longer threaded section (at least 3/4" long).? Would any of you happen to have any of these, or know where I might find some?? I need 4 of them. > > Thank you. > Jack I think you're looking for part 552670, as opposed to the 552669 that you have in hand. TRF's online system says they are in stock ... From john at linneyweb.com Tue Jul 28 11:15:02 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:15:02 -0700 Subject: [Fot] SD card and a question. Message-ID: <108E1C3D-5D2A-4D3A-A56F-8B68547D039F@linneyweb.com> Hi Jerry - I have your SD card from the 24A Spitfire of the Kastner cup race, but no return address. Where should I return it? Also, to tell the difference between father and son - who was driving which car and how should they be named? I currently have "Jerry L. Barker" for both the Spitfire and the Herald. Thanks for letting me have your video. -john John Linney https://classicmotorfilms.com YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/classicmotorfilms 408 887 8105 From quikrx at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 16:21:44 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] looking for a relay Chicago to Vermont References: <2121029193.6052255.1595974904146.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2121029193.6052255.1595974904146@mail.yahoo.com> have a fellow TR owner in Vermont who needs a round tail Spit hardtop in Chicago shipped to him in Vermont - any help or ideas appreciated - Fastenal said no, regular shippers quoted 1k or more - time is not critical at this time CheersRalph -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Jul 29 08:34:18 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 10:34:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Rambler wheels References: <97D40F6C-08CE-4945-8847-5B9F15F77649.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <97D40F6C-08CE-4945-8847-5B9F15F77649@aol.com> Back in the day, 15 inch, 4 x 4 1/2? bolt circle Rambler (Nash?) wheels were the hot set up. All steel, they were thicker, and hence stronger and stiffer (and heavier) than the stock TR wheels. I have a pair kicking around somewhere in the barn. If anyone is interested I?ll dig them out. Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 03:32:09 2020 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Vintage References: <2002863468.6957584.1596187929958.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2002863468.6957584.1596187929958@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, We had 5 Triumphs running with the Historic Race Group at Lime Rock last weekend. I shot some in-car on SAT for the points race: 2020 HRG LimeRock | | | | | | | | | | | 2020 HRG LimeRock | | | I had some great dices with the orange Porsche driven by Bobby Singh... There was some nice iron in the race group. Regards,Bob Lang339-927-4489 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hankgiffin at cox.net Fri Jul 31 10:01:00 2020 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:01:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR3 Roller still for sale Message-ID: <01a101d66753$cad6f580$6084e080$@cox.net> FOT, I still have the TR3 roller, really nice painted frame, and disassembled but ready to assemble engine. My shop is next to Abacus in VA Beach who can reassemble the engine. No reasonable offer refused. Will separate if necessary. Would like to see it back on the track. Give me a call and we can talk. Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 From: Fot On Behalf Of Henry Giffin via Fot Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:59 PM To: fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3 Roller for sale FOT, another Spring project for someone interested. I am selling the former Abacus Racing BRG TR3 (TS57917L). There was a video of Mike Jackson and Bill Thummel racing at Mid Ohio posted here earlier in the year. Bill won the race on Sat but Mike took it on Sunday. It has a ready to assemble engine and a non-overdrive gearbox, with stock TR3 rear end. It has 5 good panasport wheels. Abacus took a clean no rust street car and converted it for vintage racing in 1991. The SVRA logbook shows 28 races from 1991 to 1997. Abacus then took the engine and gearbox for their TR4. The car sat in a dry garage until I purchased it last year. I intended to make a race car for my son in law and my grandson, or even turn it back to a streetcar. I have since found some Turners that I think will be better for them, and the TR3 is now available with parts. I purchased a ready to assemble engine from Dave Spiwak and that will go with the car for what I paid Dave (list attached) It comes with a very nice sandblasted and painted TR3 frame. It has a New Mexico title. The car looks solid, and has a heavy sway bar in the front. All instruments are there, including an overdrive button on the steering wheel. There is a small dent in the left rear fender which looks like it can be banged out. I have a fiberglass tunnel. The roll bar includes door impact protection. Abacus was very successful with the car. More info and photos available. Roller and frame for $5500. Engine ready to assemble $5000 (pls see attachment - I paid $5K, Dave spent $7721), and the additional below parts I purchased from Dave ($535): Fidanza flywheel $200 Tilton clutch $150 Starter $70 Auto Pro Rev Limiter $15 Detroit Locker $100 I was quoted $1000 to $1500 for engine assembly by Abacus Machine shop. Car needs a fuel cell, tires, brake rebuild, and normal stuff done after a car has been sitting. Car, engine parts, and frame are in Va Bch. So everything totals $11,350. I prefer it all to go together. Anyone interested? Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TR3-4 Engine.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 288662 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I shot some in-car on SAT for the points race: > > 2020 HRG LimeRock > > 2020 HRG LimeRock > > > > > I had some great dices with the orange Porsche driven by Bobby Singh... > > There was some nice iron in the race group. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > 339-927-4489 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mleccese1 at verizon.net Fri Jul 31 15:27:03 2020 From: mleccese1 at verizon.net (mleccese1 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 15:42:45 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <624338679.7187909.1596231765147@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Michael, We are both using the Bastuck steel shim head gasket. ?We spray Hylomar sealant jointing compound on both sides of it before installing. ?Seems to work well, and doesn?t need the filing the steel shim?gasket in the Kastner competition manual requires. ? Mordy Dunst also makes a copper gasket that I guess works well, but I?ve never tried that one. ? I recently ordered a spare gasket right from Bastuck in Germany, it?s your best price for that with the current exchange rate by far at this point I believe! What are you running now? ?And compression ratio? ? I?m at 11:1... Hope that helps! Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Jul 31 15:47:19 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:47:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Need more information like bore and amount milled from the head. And your question is like asking what oil or brake fluid should I use. You?ll get a lot of responses and they all work for the responder so sort thru the advice and make a choice. From: mleccese1--- via Fot Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:27 PM To: fot at autox.team.net ; triumphsix at yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank you Michael L -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mleccese1 at verizon.net Fri Jul 31 15:50:27 2020 From: mleccese1 at verizon.net (mleccese1 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639@mail.yahoo.com> Not sure head gasket I will have to look thru my notes compression is 10.5 running 110 octane Thank you Michael L On Friday, July 31, 2020 David Gott wrote: Hi Michael, We are both using the Bastuck steel shim head gasket. ?We spray Hylomar sealant jointing compound on both sides of it before installing. ?Seems to work well, and doesn?t need the filing the steel shim?gasket in the Kastner competition manual requires. ? Mordy Dunst also makes a copper gasket that I guess works well, but I?ve never tried that one. ? I recently ordered a spare gasket right from Bastuck in Germany, it?s your best price for that with the current exchange rate by far at this point I believe! What are you running now? ?And compression ratio? ? I?m at 11:1... Hope that helps! Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 15:54:50 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639@mail.yahoo.com> References: <71920195.10287203.1596232227639.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <71920195.10287203.1596232227639@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <202569139.7205769.1596232490053@mail.yahoo.com> Just be aware that if it?s more of a stock gasket you have now, the steel shim gasket may increase your compression a little bit, but you should be safe at that ratio I imagine.... Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:50 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Not sure head gasket I will have to look thru my notes compression is 10.5 running 110 octane Thank you Michael L On Friday, July 31, 2020 David Gott wrote: Hi Michael, We are both using the Bastuck steel shim head gasket. ?We spray Hylomar sealant jointing compound on both sides of it before installing. ?Seems to work well, and doesn?t need the filing the steel shim?gasket in the Kastner competition manual requires. ? Mordy Dunst also makes a copper gasket that I guess works well, but I?ve never tried that one. ? I recently ordered a spare gasket right from Bastuck in Germany, it?s your best price for that with the current exchange rate by far at this point I believe! What are you running now? ?And compression ratio? ? I?m at 11:1... Hope that helps! Dave Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27 PM, mleccese1 at verizon.net wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Jul 31 16:03:55 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 18:03:55 -0400 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Fwd: Triumphs Only, 40 year business, large inventory of cars and parts | eBay In-Reply-To: References: <067B6F36-37E6-4D1A-AE94-862BF5DAB764@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6B6F6A29D04846039F33DC4711CC5C83@VlackTK121647> I saw the ad and ask and wonder how the valuation is determined. There should be a list of assets and associated value before any lender would issue a loan which of course on used parts can be rather subjective. How long will it take to recover the investment? What?s the size of the market? Cost to move and inventory at a new warehouse. In the end in my opinion this will be a very difficult sale unless a collector with deep pockets just bellied up to the bar and makes an acceptable offer. JVV From: Tom Householder Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 4:04 PM To: FOT List Cc: TR3 Triumphs Subject: [TR] Fwd: Triumphs Only, 40 year business, large inventory of cars and parts | eBay Begin forwarded message: From: Gil Sissons Subject: Triumphs Only, 40 year business, large inventory of cars and parts | eBay Date: July 31, 2020 at 10:36:03 AM EDT To: Tom Householder Looks like Wayne has his collection back for sale on EBay..... FYI Gil https://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumphs-Only-40-year-business-large-inventory-of-cars-and-parts-/193308184304 Sent from my iPhone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Fri Jul 31 16:13:08 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:13:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87609229-0b2e-1ebc-d885-62b85297a669@tonydrews.com> If you want one that is tolerant of imperfect block / head / liner protrusion, Cometic part numberH0793SP4059F has worked best for me. Payen AE-330 composite used to be my go-to, but they changed hands and I changed liners and that didn't work for me anymore. This is an 0.059" thick, 91 mm bore gasket with round fire rings, but you need 91 mm bore even if your liners are smaller than that (mine are) due to the diameter of the hole in the head if you've milled ANYTHING off of it and opened up the intake pocket.? They make a thinner gasket and a 88 mm one, but the 88mm fire ring outer edge is inside the intake pocket on my head which has only been milled, no additional intake pocket relief ground.? Even at 91mm I have a little bit of the fire ring protruding into the combustion chamber.? I've not had it burn through - but the longest it stays on the engine is maybe a dozen races. If you have perfect block / head / liner protrusion, one of the solid gaskets (either steel shim or one of Mordy's awesome copper gaskets - gasketworks.com) will give you a bit more compression and you can make sure none of it protrudes into the combustion chamber.? We tried various solid gaskets on Jack's engines and always ended up blowing a head gasket and changing to a Payen AE-330 at the track.? We eventually just put the composite gasket in to begin with and stopped having to do that.? We got pretty good at it though - I think we had it down to about 1.5 hours. Regards, Tony Drews On 7/31/2020 4:27 PM, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote: > Phil, Dave, > > I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green > TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. > > Thank you > Michael L > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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ThanksMichael L -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack To: mleccese1 at verizon.net; fot at autox.team.net; triumphsix at yahoo.com Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 5:47 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Head Gasket Need more information like bore and amount milled from the head. And your question is like asking what oil or brake fluid should I use. You?ll get a lot of responses and they all work for the responder so sort thru the advice and make a choice.?From: mleccese1--- via Fot Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:27 PMTo: fot at autox.team.net ; triumphsix at yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket?Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gasket.works at gte.net Fri Jul 31 16:16:46 2020 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <837563775.10316385.1596233806963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <837563775.10316385.1596233806963@mail.yahoo.com> The very Best Head Gasket is the one that works.? Good luck.? Mordy? MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2 On?Friday, July 31, 2020,?Jerry Van Vlack via Fot??wrote: Need more information like bore and amount milled from the head. And your question is like asking what oil or brake fluid should I use. You?ll get a lot of responses and they all work for the responder so sort thru the advice and make a choice.?From: mleccese1--- via Fot Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:27 PMTo: fot at autox.team.net ; triumphsix at yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket?Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 16:24:20 2020 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1441613553.10295780.1596230823398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1817540224.8589153.1596234260481@mail.yahoo.com> I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic.? I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head gasket.? I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1).? From day 1 it never really ran right.? I began to suspect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.? Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system.? That says bad head gasket or crack in the head.? Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket. I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.? A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.? I had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for it.? He encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.? It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses.? They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired.? I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.? It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one. I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great.? I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and haven't had a problem.? It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks.? By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.? I also used that.? A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.? Do not spray a thick coat.? Below is the link to the Cometic web site.? Check it out. Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure | | | | Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... | | | Jack On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gasket.works at gte.net Fri Jul 31 16:58:43 2020 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket References: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021@mail.yahoo.com> Copper hg?s not for everyone. ?Deck, head have to be flat, true. ?Anything more than .004? off??front to rear and you will have fitment issues. ?Knowing how?to use dressing us key. ? Can take two identical engines one built by a?periodic builder ?and one pro. ? Same parts . ?One will be built better and likely have a durable engine.? MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2 On?Friday, July 31, 2020,?Jack Wheeler via Fot??wrote: I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic.? I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head gasket.? I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1).? From day 1 it never really ran right.? I began to suspect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.? Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system.? That says bad head gasket or crack in the head.? Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket. I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.? A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.? I had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for it.? He encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.? It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses.? They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired.? I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.? It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one. I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great.? I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and haven't had a problem.? It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks.? By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.? I also used that.? A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.? Do not spray a thick coat.? Below is the link to the Cometic web site.? Check it out. Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure | | | | Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... | | | Jack On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote: Phil, Dave, I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. Thank youMichael L _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 17:37:45 2020 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:37:45 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1032778574.10319653.1596236323021@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If the head gasket has a round bore it will leak on a heavily machined cylinder head because the combustion chamber around the intake valve will increase in radius and create the ""Mickey Mouse ear" that eliminates the contact area with the sealing ring on a round head gasket opening. Mordy makes my solid .030" copper annealed head gaskets for a .125" milled steel head and use copper wire fire rings above and below the gasket for added sealing. Coppercoat sprayed on several coats and 2 to 3 thousands liner protrusion. ARP hardware. On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 6:59 PM Mordy Dunst via Fot wrote: > Copper hg?s not for everyone. Deck, head have to be flat, true. Anything > more than .004? off front to rear and you will have fitment issues. > Knowing how to use dressing us key. Can take two identical engines one > built by a periodic builder and one pro. Same parts . One will be built > better and likely have a durable engine. > > MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 > Fax 626.628.3777 > Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 > T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 > > On Friday, July 31, 2020, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: > > > I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic. > I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head > gasket. I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in > the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1). From day > 1 it never really ran right. I began to suspect coolant was getting into > the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull > some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests > for hydrocarbons. Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant > system. That says bad head gasket or crack in the head. Since I'd had the > head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket. > > I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket. A guy at a > local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic. I had > never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so > surely they would not make a gasket for it. He encouraged me to check the > internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR > engine. It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for > different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different > thicknesses. They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the > thickness desired. I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket. It all sounded a > little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I > ordered one. > > I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and > suddenly the engine ran great. I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car > since then and haven't had a problem. It runs cool (even on 95 degree > days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks. > By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement. I > also used that. A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick. Do > not spray a thick coat. Below is the link to the Cometic web site. Check > it out. > > Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure > > Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure > > Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of > motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... > > Jack > > > > > > On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Phil, Dave, > > I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 > #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust. > > Thank you > Michael L > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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