From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 05:15:31 2019 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 06:15:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Triumph Racing Message-ID: <55FABA96-0FAC-4FF3-A14B-55D7E874425C@gmail.com> Racing is safest when everyone is going in the same direction. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 150388 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Robert Goldman Collection. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Aug 1 06:24:08 2019 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 12:24:08 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Triumph Racing In-Reply-To: <55FABA96-0FAC-4FF3-A14B-55D7E874425C@gmail.com> References: <55FABA96-0FAC-4FF3-A14B-55D7E874425C@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's also easier to tell who won. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 6:15:31 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Triumph Racing Racing is safest when everyone is going in the same direction. [cid:c7e51e25-259e-443c-ab66-b4703f2633fd at namprd15.prod.outlook.com] Robert Goldman Collection. 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At the Sunday feature race, there were so many Volvo?s off the track that they had to black flag the race after the warm-up lap?.All part of the fun in the end > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > > It's also easier to tell who won. > > > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > > From: Fot on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 6:15:31 AM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Triumph Racing > > Racing is safest when everyone is going in the same direction. > > > Robert Goldman Collection. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=%2BaOWhu3qyGuOW1CN%2FgYqJkbpW4B%2Fi%2BqTF9NMUnKY%2FNo%3D&reserved=0 > > Donate: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=FVzpKHoM8o4EakI%2FrfoXJUyCPU5zz4lH4GEVWSdoC%2FM%3D&reserved=0 > Archive: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=1bL7HQTLuavEGXvTCxw3Q6xCDTxIleWFv7PsA3Tet4c%3D&reserved=0 https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=Oec7Z8X76QC14AE0F%2B2rI%2BdU2j2oZQkKyALu0KCNYxc%3D&reserved=0 > Unsubscribe/Manage: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fsbarr%40mccarty-law.com&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225982612&sdata=XSO3NN25ibgYvvUl70PQ1snQ08mHLkek5%2B9FPDTyjrQ%3D&reserved=0 > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 08:57:44 2019 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 14:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] DIRECTION In-Reply-To: <2055603607.792881.1564667993661@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2055603607.792881.1564667993661.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2055603607.792881.1564667993661@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <930728815.829834.1564671464121@mail.yahoo.com> You have to be a great driver to keep up with John. You know he cheats in the weight department. He may weigh 160 lbs? I remember the day he tested his roll bar at Gingerman when he broke an axle. Scary moment. On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 09:00:28 AM CDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Amici... I've got one of those 'Direction' photos in my files too.? It is from 1990, at IRP, John Harkness (#37) and I (#29) were dicing all weekend long, when all at once John decided to go back to the previous corner to get some 'direction' from the workers.? 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On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 09:00:28 AM CDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Amici... I've got one of those 'Direction' photos in my files too.? It is from 1990, at IRP, John Harkness (#37) and I (#29) were dicing all weekend long, when all at once John decided to go back to the previous corner to get some 'direction' from the workers.? The photo was used for a calendar in 1991. ?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can't find the list... - Tony D On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG > event entry list. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Kathy Swinford* > > Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list > To: John Styduhar > > > > We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com > . > Thanks > > Kathy Swinford > SVRA > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar > wrote: > >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in >> September. Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Thu Aug 1 12:32:46 2019 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 11:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there until 1 week prior to event. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Drews via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... - Tony D On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG event entry list. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Kathy Swinford Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list To: John Styduhar We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. Thanks Kathy Swinford SVRA Sportscar Vintage Racing Association On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Aug 1 12:43:21 2019 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 13:43:21 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> Message-ID: <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend.? :) - Tony On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > ? > It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event.? Maybe won't be > there until 1 week prior to event. > Charly Mitchel > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tony Drews via Fot > *To:* fot at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list > > I wonder where on their site it's published.? I can't find the list... > > - Tony D > > On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , >> concerning WG event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: *Kathy Swinford* > > >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar > >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com >> . >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar > > wrote: >> >>> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in >>> September.? Thanks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive:http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emanteno at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 13:12:03 2019 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 14:12:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] DIRECTION In-Reply-To: <2055603607.792881.1564667993661@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2055603607.792881.1564667993661.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2055603607.792881.1564667993661@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here's mine. Grattan 1999. . [image: image.jpeg] First lap, she spun, and was driving counter race to the back of the pack so that she could turn around and return to the race. My friend saw this photo op developing, and captured the moment. Irv Korey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Scan_20190801 (3).jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 188786 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 45217 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 15:26:43 2019 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I found the Indy entry list on the Indy event page. The Glen event page is similar, sure it will be there. Indy https://svra.com/events/2019-brickyard-vintage-racing-invitational/ The Glen https://svra.com/events/2019-us-vintage-grand-prix/ On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:29 PM Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... > > - Tony D > On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG > event entry list. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Kathy Swinford > Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list > To: John Styduhar > > > We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. > Thanks > > Kathy Swinford > SVRA > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > > Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 15:30:51 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 16:30:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I am interested in the list as well. When you are towing cross country, knowing the size of the Triumph clan attending matters. Bob Kramer On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > I found the Indy entry list on the Indy event page. The Glen event page is > similar, sure it will be there. > > Indy > https://svra.com/events/2019-brickyard-vintage-racing-invitational/ > > The Glen > https://svra.com/events/2019-us-vintage-grand-prix/ > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:29 PM Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > >> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >> >> - Tony D >> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >> event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kathy Swinford >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 15:43:22 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 16:43:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <002601d548b1$321bed80$9653c880$@gmail.com> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <002601d548b1$321bed80$9653c880$@gmail.com> Message-ID: We are all spread out too far away to have a series. It would be great but not practical. Bob Kramer On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM Chris Marx via Fot wrote: > Hu Guys, > > > > after having a look on the Indy entry list?.this is very different from > Europe. > > In Europe all racing is organized in racing series. These series sorting > the cars by their own will. > > > > Looking on this entry list, it seems there are no racing series in USA? > > There are groups and cars of similar types are sorted in this groups? > > But how about a competition? Porsche vs. Jaguar vs. BMW vs. Ferrari? > > > > I see American cars in one group, then very small groups from only 4-6 > cars. > > > > What is the system behind this? > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 16:58:08 2019 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 22:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <002601d548b1$321bed80$9653c880$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1955379015.1067947.1564700288277@mail.yahoo.com> FV has a series here in the Mid-West and East Central. I believe FJ also has a series not sure though. On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 04:45:25 PM CDT, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: We are all spread out too far away to have a series. It would be great but not practical. Bob Kramer On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM Chris Marx via Fot wrote: Hu Guys, ? after having a look on the Indy entry list?.this is very different from Europe. In Europe all racing is organized in racing series. These series sorting the cars by their own will. ? Looking on this entry list, it seems there are no racing series in USA? There are groups and cars of similar types are sorted in this groups? But how about a competition? Porsche vs. Jaguar vs. BMW vs. Ferrari? ? I see American cars in one group, then very small groups from only 4-6 cars. ? What is the system behind this? ? Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any seconds? > > Some of the cars are for sale, and he has parts for sale. > > Mark, his email is hugcrv at fuse.net . > > Cheers, > Doug Mitchell > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Sat Aug 3 12:55:47 2019 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 11:55:47 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination for FoT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89287A26-AF69-47AC-A6B6-A37404C8E2FF@gmail.com> A 3 Spitfire guy? Of course! 2nd!! Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Doug Mitchell via Fot wrote: > > I would like to nominate Tim Ross for membership in FoT. He has 3 Spitfires, a '63, '64 racecar and a '65 that is undergoing restoration. Any seconds? > > Some of the cars are for sale, and he has parts for sale. > > Mark, his email is hugcrv at fuse.net. > > Cheers, > Doug Mitchell > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Sat Aug 3 17:08:14 2019 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:08:14 -0400 Subject: [Fot] History of racing at Watkins Glen Message-ID: Classic Motorsports just sent out this old British Leyland documentary, by Brock Yates Sr, about racing at the Glen. Looks like it originally came out in 1972, It starts off with an ad for a Spitfire 1500. "Get the car, get the girl and a piece of History" See you there next month. https://youtu.be/0RuXJ5W1qxk enjoy mike h -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joeg at neb.rr.com Sun Aug 4 07:33:54 2019 From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 08:33:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Questions about TR8 Race Car Message-ID: <002f01d54ac9$44707400$cd515c00$@neb.rr.com> Possible GT1 Huffaker Clone - Greg Sharpe is asking questions in The Triumph Experience "Motorsports" forum. Link - https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/motorsports-forum.22/tr-8-gt1-huffaker-clon e.1637638/ I know almost nothing about these, so suggested we might find some FOT members with information. If you are interested in providing any information, please follow the link and post on the forum or reply directly to Greg at gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com. Thanks in advance! 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If you are interested in providing any information, please follow the link and post on the forum or reply directly to Greg at gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com. > > Thanks in advance! > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, Nebraska > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fmccjr at aol.com Sat Aug 3 18:58:45 2019 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 20:58:45 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> I?d like to nominate Michael Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! mleccese1 at verizon.net Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 4 13:27:43 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 19:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> Message-ID: <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> SECOND - but, does Michael have an e-mail address?? Regards,Bob Lang On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 3:18:45 PM EDT, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: I?d like to nominate Michael Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! mleccese1 at verizon.net Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Sun Aug 4 13:40:55 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 14:40:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> Message-ID: <7D560107-6A7A-483F-9CD4-00DE91962C9C@att.net> Second. We could always another TR4 team in the group. Welcome Michael. Hopefully we will see them at Watkins? Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:58 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > From joeg at neb.rr.com Sun Aug 4 17:04:01 2019 From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 18:04:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Questions about TR8 Race Car In-Reply-To: <986B331A-4232-4111-B259-F3FFC5833C82@rogers.com> References: <002f01d54ac9$44707400$cd515c00$@neb.rr.com> <986B331A-4232-4111-B259-F3FFC5833C82@rogers.com> Message-ID: <004001d54b18$e9bbb970$bd332c50$@neb.rr.com> Thanks, Paul. I knew (hoped?) someone in this group would know something about it. Joe G From: MACDONALD Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:49 AM To: Joe Guinan Cc: fot at autox.team.net; gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Questions about TR8 Race Car I have a bunch of info on the car. Talked to Chuck a number of times over the past 10 -15 years. Will share what I have, when I get to my pc. Paul Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Joe Guinan via Fot > wrote: Possible GT1 Huffaker Clone ? Greg Sharpe is asking questions in The Triumph Experience ?Motorsports? forum. Link - https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/motorsports-forum.22/tr-8-gt1-huffaker-clone.1637638/ I know almost nothing about these, so suggested we might find some FOT members with information. If you are interested in providing any information, please follow the link and post on the forum or reply directly to Greg at gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com. Thanks in advance! Joe Guinan Fremont, Nebraska _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sun Aug 4 20:54:25 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 20:54:25 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 8/4/19 1:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > SECOND - but, does Michael have an e-mail address?? > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 3:18:45 PM EDT, fmccjr--- via Fot > wrote: > > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he > put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the > VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive > spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Yes, he has an email address.? And unlike many, the person who posted the nomination included it in the original message - it is the mleccese1 at verizon.net line.? Some folks present a nomination, and expect me to somehow conjure up the nominee's email address to add out of thin air.? Such are the joys of being the list admin. mjb. From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Mon Aug 5 03:35:51 2019 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 19:35:51 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Canadian GP--sort of TR related Message-ID: A few of us are looking to come over for the 2020 kastner Cup and may come early and go to the Canadian GP in Montreal do we have any Montreal (or other) members that can give us some local "intelligence" on this event, grandstands to book, places to stay , etc etc thanks terry o'beirne australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes the TR4 vintage race car that is built from a car we pulled (yes winched out) from a swamp in some guys side yard in Maine so it was rough but now (many years later) it is a vintage racer. my email address as you know is mleccese1 at verizon.net and I live north of Boston and plan to participate in vintage racing on the East Coast in the next couple of years Thank YouMichael Leccese -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis via Fot To: fot Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2019 10:58 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination On 8/4/19 1:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > SECOND - but, does Michael have an e-mail address?? > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 3:18:45 PM EDT, fmccjr--- via Fot > wrote: > > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he > put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the > VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive > spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Yes, he has an email address.? And unlike many, the person who posted the nomination included it in the original message - it is the mleccese1 at verizon.net line.? Some folks present a nomination, and expect me to somehow conjure up the nominee's email address to add out of thin air.? Such are the joys of being the list admin. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mleccese1 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Aug 5 07:52:31 2019 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:52:31 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Barry Munson. Attending the KCup 2020 at M-O. Message-ID: We are enjoying the hospitality of Barry Munson at his Log Mansion near Edmonton AB. Barry has entered or attended 8-9 KCups in recent years. Traveling long distances....Mid-Ohio is long Tow for him and his TR3, but he is a stalwart follower. So we will have attendees from UK, Canada, and Australia. What a wonderful group we have! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hotels generally charge 3 times the normal rate for that week-end, and you may be forced to book 3 nights. Maybe better rates at bed and breakfast places or through Air BnB, I don't really know. Have fun! Claude On Monday, August 5, 2019, 05:34:39 a.m. EDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: A few of us are looking to come over for the 2020? kastner Cup and may come early and go to the Canadian GP in Montreal do we have any Montreal (or other) members that can give us some local "intelligence" on this event, grandstands to book, places to stay , etc etc thanks terry o'beirneaustralia _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lotusgagne at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mleccese1 at verizon.net Mon Aug 5 11:53:56 2019 From: mleccese1 at verizon.net (mleccese1 at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 17:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <7D560107-6A7A-483F-9CD4-00DE91962C9C@att.net> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> <7D560107-6A7A-483F-9CD4-00DE91962C9C@att.net> Message-ID: <1928456298.1277091.1565027636272@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you I look forward to FOT. I am looking to join the VSCCA and Mark O,day said I would need a recommendation from a member. Are you a member? Would you recommend me for membership so I can run with the VSCCA in future events....? Please let me know Thank you,Michael Leccese -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ricco To: fmccjr ; Friends of Triumph ; mleccese1 Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2019 3:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Second. We could always another TR4 team in the group. Welcome Michael. Hopefully we will see them at Watkins? 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URL: From info at dieselperformanceparts.com Tue Aug 6 06:22:32 2019 From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 12:22:32 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Belly Tank in PA that needs to get to CA Message-ID: Hey membership, I got a good buddy, well as good as one can get that messes with non-Triumph stuff anyway LOL!! He has purchased a WWII belly tank located in Hummelsburg, PA and needs to get it one the way or to the Los Angeles area. Close to there, like Vegas, or somewhere north is good as well. Anyway he's honest and fair and is willing to pay for someone's spare trailer space. I attached a pic of it, hope the site allows it to post never did a pic here before??? It's right at 10 feet long and about 24 inches tall. Move the Triumph off to one side of the trailer and slide this right in next to it. Get your fuel paid for free maybe??? [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/logo_small_dppi.png] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_facebook.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_twitter.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_googleplus.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_linkedin.jpg] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13124 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:26 AM DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot wrote: > Hey membership, > > > > I got a good buddy, well as good as one can get that messes with > non-Triumph stuff anyway LOL!! > > He has purchased a WWII belly tank located in Hummelsburg, PA and needs to > get it one the way or to the Los Angeles area. Close to there, like Vegas, > or somewhere north is good as well. Anyway he?s honest and fair and is > willing to pay for someone?s spare trailer space. I attached a pic of it, > hope the site allows it to post never did a pic here before??? It?s right > at 10 feet long and about 24 inches tall. Move the Triumph off to one side > of the trailer and slide this right in next to it. Get your fuel paid for > free maybe??? > > > > [image: http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/logo_small_dppi.png] > > > > > > *Mark Craig *Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. > 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 > www.dieselperformanceparts.com > > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_facebook.jpg] > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_twitter.jpg] > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_googleplus.jpg] > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_linkedin.jpg] > > > > > > > Phone: 615-834-0066 > Fax: 615-834-9923 > Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mckearn2 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. :-( C ya,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage.? So one less supplier for racing parts._______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Wed Aug 7 16:46:33 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:46:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SPEC pressure plates NLA for TR4A-6 In-Reply-To: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John and Bob, I agree. We have had an excellent experience with SPEC. WThey got stuff to us quickly and it has all held up very well. SPEC parts have been very reliable for us as well. It is unfortunate that another domestic supplier that was willing to help us is dropping out. Paul Ricco > On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > Major bummer - I've been using them for around 20 years with excellent results. > > Oh well. I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. > > :-( > > C ya, > Bob Lang > > On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage. 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URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 16:58:15 2019 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 22:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] SPEC pressure plates NLA for TR4A-6 In-Reply-To: References: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44589863.1968870.1565218695055@mail.yahoo.com> Just an observation; the parts are still listed on the SPEC website; could it be that the supplier the contact uses just doesn?t list the parts anymore? https://www.specclutches.com/618043/spec-stage5-pressure-plate-tr4a-stcr305-537400? -Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 6:46 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John and Bob, I agree. ?We have had an excellent experience with SPEC. ? WThey got stuff to us quickly and it has all held up very well. ?SPEC parts have been very reliable for us as well. ?It is unfortunate that another domestic supplier that was willing to help us is dropping out. Paul Ricco On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Major bummer - I've been using them for around 20 years with excellent results. Oh well. I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. :-( C ya,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage.? So one less supplier for racing parts._______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 8 04:32:32 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 10:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] SPEC pressure plates NLA for TR4A-6 In-Reply-To: <44589863.1968870.1565218695055@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> <44589863.1968870.1565218695055@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1113507507.2076397.1565260352608@mail.yahoo.com> Hi - yeah, interesting. The specclutches.com web site was down yesterday, but now seems to be working okay. Turns out that I need a clutch, I may try ordering one later today just to make sure that this option still is viable. OTOH, the Sachs pressure plates seem to work okay... Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 7:02:26 PM EDT, David Gott via Fot wrote: Just an observation; the parts are still listed on the SPEC website; could it be that the supplier the contact uses just doesn?t list the parts anymore? https://www.specclutches.com/618043/spec-stage5-pressure-plate-tr4a-stcr305-537400? -Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 6:46 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John and Bob, I agree. ?We have had an excellent experience with SPEC. ? WThey got stuff to us quickly and it has all held up very well. ?SPEC parts have been very reliable for us as well. ?It is unfortunate that another domestic supplier that was willing to help us is dropping out. Paul Ricco On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Major bummer - I've been using them for around 20 years with excellent results. Oh well. I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. :-( C ya,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage.? So one less supplier for racing parts._______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/logo_small_dppi.png] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_facebook.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_twitter.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_googleplus.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_linkedin.jpg] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13118 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Huovinen -----Original Message----- From: DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Aug 8, 2019 7:54 pm Subject: [Fot] Spit Aluminum Bellhousing <!-- #yiv0277660151 _filtered #yiv0277660151 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0277660151 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0277660151 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} #yiv0277660151 #yiv0277660151 p.yiv0277660151MsoNormal, #yiv0277660151 li.yiv0277660151MsoNormal, #yiv0277660151 div.yiv0277660151MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} #yiv0277660151 a:link, #yiv0277660151 span.yiv0277660151MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0277660151 a:visited, #yiv0277660151 span.yiv0277660151MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0277660151 span.yiv0277660151EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv0277660151 .yiv0277660151MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv0277660151 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv0277660151 div.yiv0277660151WordSection1 {} -->Hey membership, ? Anyone out there got an aluminum bellhousing for a Spitfire, I just got a deal on a tranny and now need the bell housing to make it a good spare. ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/maddhatt69 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13118 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm sure you know about the think cast ones, I had one and it didn't last at all.? If you would like a new part Canley Classics has them as they had them made a couple years ago, I believe. Good luck in your search,Bob T.'64 Spit GT? autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Aug 8, 2019 1:54 pm Subject: [Fot] Spit Aluminum Bellhousing <!-- #yiv6571090850 _filtered #yiv6571090850 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6571090850 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6571090850 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} #yiv6571090850 #yiv6571090850 p.yiv6571090850MsoNormal, #yiv6571090850 li.yiv6571090850MsoNormal, #yiv6571090850 div.yiv6571090850MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} #yiv6571090850 a:link, #yiv6571090850 span.yiv6571090850MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv6571090850 a:visited, #yiv6571090850 span.yiv6571090850MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv6571090850 span.yiv6571090850EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv6571090850 .yiv6571090850MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv6571090850 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv6571090850 div.yiv6571090850WordSection1 {} -->Hey membership, ? Anyone out there got an aluminum bellhousing for a Spitfire, I just got a deal on a tranny and now need the bell housing to make it a good spare. ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2784 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap. Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however. I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design. 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I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sun Aug 11 06:14:39 2019 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. Glen with 1 "n". -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar via Fot To: Glenn Franco Cc: FOT list Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem?? Thanks On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 06:43:05 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 08:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D transmissions. Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed soon enough. The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. Glenn with 2 n's On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is > more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? > Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 11 06:47:24 2019 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <975123266.4048654.1565527644240@mail.yahoo.com> I have rebuilt many TR-3B through TR-6 gear boxes, both with and without overdrive.? The failure mode you mention is common, where the lay gear grinds into the rear thrust washer, and sometimes into the housing.? However, I have never had trouble removing the lay gear.? Once I remove the thrust washer, the lay gear lifts right out.? Am I missing something?? Are you working on a Spitfire or GT-6 gearbox? Once again, I pull the rear thrust washer out, generally with the transmission oriented with the bell housing down.? Then, with the gearbox oriented in the upright position, I lift up the end of the lay gear where I have just removed the thrust washer.? Once it clears the boss at the rear of the housing, the lay gear comes right out. Not sure this is any help, but that's my experience. Jack Wheeler On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 3:52:18 PM EDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sun Aug 11 08:07:17 2019 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. References: <2038555896.2835652.1565532437132.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2038555896.2835652.1565532437132@mail.yahoo.com> Jack the late laygears use a pressed-in "shell" bearing.They can be fitted to the early circlip gears and aren't an issue but the pressed-only have a tendency to walk out and lathe (used as a verb) into the thrust washer so it can't be removed, so nor can the gear. The wear issue is exacerbated by all of the metal crumbs generated above the area by 1st/reverse gear graunching. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wheeler via Fot To: Glenn Franco Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:47 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I have rebuilt many TR-3B through TR-6 gear boxes, both with and without overdrive.? The failure mode you mention is common, where the lay gear grinds into the rear thrust washer, and sometimes into the housing.? However, I have never had trouble removing the lay gear.? Once I remove the thrust washer, the lay gear lifts right out.? Am I missing something?? Are you working on a Spitfire or GT-6 gearbox? Once again, I pull the rear thrust washer out, generally with the transmission oriented with the bell housing down.? Then, with the gearbox oriented in the upright position, I lift up the end of the lay gear where I have just removed the thrust washer.? Once it clears the boss at the rear of the housing, the lay gear comes right out. Not sure this is any help, but that's my experience. Jack Wheeler On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 3:52:18 PM EDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 10:24:38 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:24:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes exactly right. By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. So far I have not. Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered roller bearing. I would be interested in giving it a try. Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: > Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. > It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings > obviously but too common with the pressed only. > I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway. > In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's > exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by > the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust > washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case. > I share your pain... > Glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Franco > To: fubog1 > Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D > transmissions. > Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose > needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have > been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. > The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the > shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the > smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the > remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed > soon enough. > The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is > getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to > remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer > needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. > When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost > impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. > Glenn with 2 n's > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is > more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? > Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britcars at bellsouth.net Sun Aug 11 10:45:45 2019 From: britcars at bellsouth.net (barry rosenberg) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I would not expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay gear in your lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long bronze oil-lite bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with no problems. Also mich the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs are .0025" too small! Barry On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Yes exactly right.By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case.So far I have not. Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it.I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered roller bearing.?I would be interested in giving it a try.Glenn ? On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens.It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings obviously but too common with the pressed only.I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway.In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case.I share your pain...Glen -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Franco To: fubog1 Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D transmissions.Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed soon enough.The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands.Glenn with 2 n's On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. Glen with 1 "n". -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar via Fot To: Glenn Franco Cc: FOT list Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem?? Thanks On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Sun Aug 11 11:26:23 2019 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:26:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. Greg Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2019, at 11:45 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot wrote: > > Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I would not expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay gear in your lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long bronze oil-lite bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with no problems. Also mich the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs are .0025" too small! > > Barry > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: > > > Yes exactly right. > By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. > So far I have not. > Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. > I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered roller bearing. I would be interested in giving it a try. > Glenn > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: > Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. > It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings obviously but too common with the pressed only. > I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway. > In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case. > I share your pain... > Glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Franco > To: fubog1 > Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D transmissions. > Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. > The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed soon enough. > The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. > When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. > Glenn with 2 n's > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake To: barry rosenberg Cc: fubog1 ; FOT list ; Glenn Franco Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 12:55:57 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:55:57 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well that's pretty cool! I'm not sure those steel plates are big enough though? Did it screw up the case since it looks like your pulling from somewhere midway on the laygear. Thanks Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Blake wrote: > I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust > clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. > > Greg > [image: image1.jpeg] > [image: image2.jpeg] > [image: image3.jpeg] > [image: image4.jpeg] > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Aug 11, 2019, at 11:45 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot > wrote: > > Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I would not > expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay gear in your > lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long bronze oil-lite > bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with no problems. Also mich > the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs are .0025" too small! > > Barry > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes exactly right. > By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with > a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. > So far I have not. > Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the > laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to > grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. > I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered > roller bearing. I would be interested in giving it a try. > Glenn > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: > > Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. > It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings > obviously but too common with the pressed only. > I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway. > In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's > exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by > the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust > washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case. > I share your pain... > Glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Franco > To: fubog1 > Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D > transmissions. > Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose > needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have > been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. > The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the > shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the > smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the > remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed > soon enough. > The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is > getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to > remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer > needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. > When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost > impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. > Glenn with 2 n's > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is > more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? > Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just cut off through the two vent opening are on the sides. I will pay the shiipping. On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 14:13:17 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:13:17 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok, thanks. On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 3:02 PM John Styduhar wrote: > Don't scrap your TR gearbox case if damaged. The bellhousing can be used > for a toyota 5-speed conversion. Just cut off through the two vent opening > are on the sides. I will pay the shiipping. > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > >> Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I >> do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or >> maybe 2. >> I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing >> next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the >> thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that >> ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes >> get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is >> sent to scrap. >> Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear >> out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so >> you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted >> to a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it >> out. Didn't end well however. >> I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on >> that end which would make more sense than the original design. >> Please advise >> Thanks in advance >> Glenn >> TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sun Aug 11 14:46:38 2019 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:46:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20952002-f312-2d68-b0f8-1d3941f4106a@verizon.net> Now that's impressive; simple, cheap, and it works. Good job. Cheers, Bill On 8/11/2019 1:26 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 > exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. > > Greg > image1.jpeg > image2.jpeg > image3.jpeg > image4.jpeg > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Aug 11, 2019, at 11:45 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot > > wrote: > >> Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I >> would not expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay >> gear in your lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long >> bronze oil-lite bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with >> no problems. Also mich the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs >> are .0025" too small! >> >> Barry >> >> On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot >> > wrote: >> >> >> Yes exactly right. >> By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up >> with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. >> So far I have not. >> Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the >> laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort >> to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. >> I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a >> tapered roller bearing.?I would be interested in giving it a try. >> Glenn >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 > > wrote: >> >> Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. >> It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell >> bearings obviously but too common with the pressed only. >> I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove >> anyway. >> In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & >> bearing, it's exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal >> generated directly above by the graunching going into 1st & >> reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust washer and eats up the >> backside of the washer & the case. >> I share your pain... >> Glen >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Glenn Franco > > >> To: fubog1 > >> Cc: John Styduhar > >; FOT list > > >> Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing >> failures. >> >> Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D >> transmissions. >> Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not >> the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The >> last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 >> Transmissions. >> The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks >> along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer >> that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture >> into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and >> then the case if not removed soon enough. >> The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the >> problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As >> I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is >> removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the >> laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. >> When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer >> its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case >> on your hands. >> Glenn with 2 n's >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: >> >> That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. >> >> Glen with 1 "n". >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Styduhar via Fot >> To: Glenn Franco >> Cc: FOT list >> Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing >> failures. >> >> Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you >> described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is >> it a general problem?? Thanks >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot >> wrote: >> >> Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this >> afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the >> owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2. >> I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the >> layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried >> to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have >> tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground >> its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I >> sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans >> case with the laygear is sent to scrap. >> Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease >> the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small >> thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear >> enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " >> Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the >> laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however. >> I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered >> roller bearing on that end which would make more sense >> than the original design. >> Please advise >> Thanks in advance >> Glenn >> TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 >> being restored >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > >http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The lug nut length is 2" overall with a shank length of 1 3/8 (1.375). The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625). Any sources for lug nuts that may have these? Thanks in advance. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From macdonaldp at rogers.com Mon Aug 12 09:01:04 2019 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (PAUL MACDONALD) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Lug Nuts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1739686986.3066126.1565622064909@mail.yahoo.com> revolution wheel | eBay | | | | | | | | | | | revolution wheel | eBay Find great deals on eBay for revolution wheel. Shop with confidence. | | | On Monday, August 12, 2019, 10:35:01 a.m. EDT, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: Good Morning! ???? I am having some issue finding lug nuts.? They are for a Revolution wheel and a 7/16 stud.? My problem has been shank diameter.? The lug nut length is 2" overall with a shank length of 1 3/8 (1.375).? The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625).? Any sources for lug nuts that may have these?? Thanks in advance. Joe DownerCharlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From macdonaldp at rogers.com Mon Aug 12 09:03:56 2019 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 11:03:56 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Lug Nuts In-Reply-To: <1739686986.3066126.1565622064909@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1739686986.3066126.1565622064909@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501d5511f$2a8f5450$7fadfcf0$@rogers.com> https://tinyurl.com/y3ur8l7p From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PAUL MACDONALD via Fot Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 11:01 AM To: fot at autox.team.net; Joe Henry Subject: Re: [Fot] Lug Nuts revolution wheel | eBay Text Box: revolution wheel | eBay Find great deals on eBay for revolution wheel. Shop with confidence. On Monday, August 12, 2019, 10:35:01 a.m. EDT, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: Good Morning! I am having some issue finding lug nuts. They are for a Revolution wheel and a 7/16 stud. My problem has been shank diameter. The lug nut length is 2" overall with a shank length of 1 3/8 (1.375). The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625). Any sources for lug nuts that may have these? Thanks in advance. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5603 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 1880 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rocky at spitfire4.com Mon Aug 12 11:13:18 2019 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 12:13:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Lug Nuts In-Reply-To: <001501d5511f$2a8f5450$7fadfcf0$@rogers.com> References: <1739686986.3066126.1565622064909@mail.yahoo.com> <001501d5511f$2a8f5450$7fadfcf0$@rogers.com> Message-ID: If all else fails, do what I did ? find lugnuts that fit the stud and with shank the right length (or longer). Than take them to a machine shop and have them take the OD of the shank down to the ID of the wheel. I once broke 2 lugnuts on my Spitfire shortly before the Solo Nationals. The wheels were American Mags (I thought) and there was an American Wheels warehouse in Kansas City on my way to the event. So I stopped by to pick up some new lugnuts. ?Yep those are our wheels ... oh, wait a minute, no they?re not.? Turned out they were a Japanese knockoff and the lug hole was smaller. The guy at American gave me a bag of lugnuts anyway (16, full set ? free!) and pointed me to a nearby machine shop who trimmed them down to fit. Later I got new rear axles that came with bigger/longer lugs. Took 8 of those same nuts, had a local machine shop drill them out all the way through and re-thread them. --Rocky Entriken From: Paul MacDonald via Fot Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:03 AM To: 'PAUL MACDONALD' ; 'Joe Henry' Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Lug Nuts https://tinyurl.com/y3ur8l7p From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PAUL MACDONALD via Fot Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 11:01 AM To: fot at autox.team.net; Joe Henry Subject: Re: [Fot] Lug Nuts revolution wheel | eBay revolution wheel | eBay Find great deals on eBay for revolution wheel. Shop with confidence. On Monday, August 12, 2019, 10:35:01 a.m. EDT, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: Good Morning! I am having some issue finding lug nuts. They are for a Revolution wheel and a 7/16 stud. My problem has been shank diameter. The lug nut length is 2" overall with a shank length of 1 3/8 (1.375). The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625). Any sources for lug nuts that may have these? Thanks in advance. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky at spitfire4.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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All 4 pads measure between .605" and .610" overall thickness (identical to the new in box set) : $75 shipped in the USA Please send any replies to jsukey at gmail.com Thanks, Jason Sukey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobeirne at skillpro.com.au Sun Aug 11 15:53:23 2019 From: tobeirne at skillpro.com.au (=?utf-8?B?VGVycnkgT+KAmUJlaXJuZQ==?=) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 21:53:23 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> References: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In all my years of having a business fixing hundreds of these boxes , I don?t think I ever had to resort to a pulling device like shown I really am gob-smacked at what some of you guys are doing to these boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer can be a problem. but a hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the most recalcitrant of these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then be used to cut thru the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the 1970?s we mounted a die grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used a grinding tool in that to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then regrind the laygear to accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear laygear bearing has started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and conventional lathe tooling wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get thru the hard layer. Over the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the idea never really changed. Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if you leave a ?groove? or dent in the laygear housing, a replacement shell type bearing will never last. You usually can?t perform this repair with the later open cage bearings as the laygear finish and hardness wont be good enough. Its perfectly OK for a LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic below I also include a pic of a gearbox case bored out to accept a taper roller at 1st gear end. Have done it to both ends with shim adjustment at front. Done plenty of these [A hand holding a piece of metal Description automatically generated] [A picture containing ground, outdoor, transport Description automatically generated] From: Fot On Behalf Of fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com; britcars at bellsouth.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net; brakey6666 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > To: barry rosenberg > Cc: fubog1 >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18948 bytes Desc: image004.jpg URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 17:45:50 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:45:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Very interesting! Do you have a photo of the bearing install and do you use it with the bronze bush you installed in the Laygear? Thanks Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:53 PM Terry O?Beirne wrote: > In all my years of having a business fixing hundreds of these boxes , I > don?t think I ever had to resort to a pulling device like shown > > > > > > > > > > > * I really am gob-smacked at what some of you guys are doing to these > boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer can be a problem. but a > hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the most recalcitrant of > these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then be used to cut thru > the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the 1970?s we mounted a die > grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used a grinding tool in that > to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then regrind the laygear to > accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear laygear bearing has > started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and conventional lathe tooling > wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get thru the hard layer. Over > the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the idea never really changed. > Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if you leave a ?groove? or dent > in the laygear housing, a replacement shell type bearing will never last. > You usually can?t perform this repair with the later open cage bearings as > the laygear finish and hardness wont be good enough. Its perfectly OK for a > LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic below I also include a pic of a > gearbox case bored out to accept a taper roller at 1st gear end. Have done > it to both ends with shim adjustment at front. Done plenty of these > [image: A hand holding a piece of metal Description automatically > generated] [image: A picture containing ground, outdoor, transport > Description automatically generated] From: Fot > > On Behalf Of > fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > ; britcars at bellsouth.net > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; brakey6666 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and > Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! > Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > > To: barry rosenberg > > Cc: fubog1 > >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] > Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last > year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all > thread rod. Worked like a champ. * > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18948 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tobeirne at skillpro.com.au Sun Aug 11 18:37:08 2019 From: tobeirne at skillpro.com.au (=?utf-8?B?VGVycnkgT+KAmUJlaXJuZQ==?=) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 00:37:08 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: the brass bush is just 1 way of fixing the problem being discussed. That bush can either be fixed like in the pic, or floating, depending on the intended use for the taper roller conversion, I make up a ?stub axle? that presses into the laygear and then the bearing sits on that. I use a common wheel bearing. part number shown on pic of case. I?ll dig thru my photo file. Same bearing/method used at input shaft end except I have a shim plate there to adjust end float/preload Without wanting to sound rude, this is not a conversion for the average ?back-yarder?. It requires considerable engineering skill and accurate machining, eg, the big holes bored in the case must be perfectly aligned and bore right thru from 1 end of case to the other. I gave up doing them for other people as they just take too long and people did not want to pay the hourly rate From: Glenn Franco Sent: 12 August 2019 09:46 To: Terry O?Beirne Cc: fubog1 ; gblake58tr3 at icloud.com; britcars at bellsouth.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Very interesting! Do you have a photo of the bearing install and do you use it with the bronze bush you installed in the Laygear? Thanks Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:53 PM Terry O?Beirne > wrote: In all my years of having a business fixing hundreds of these boxes , I don?t think I ever had to resort to a pulling device like shown I really am gob-smacked at what some of you guys are doing to these boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer can be a problem. but a hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the most recalcitrant of these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then be used to cut thru the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the 1970?s we mounted a die grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used a grinding tool in that to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then regrind the laygear to accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear laygear bearing has started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and conventional lathe tooling wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get thru the hard layer. Over the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the idea never really changed. Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if you leave a ?groove? or dent in the laygear housing, a replacement shell type bearing will never last. You usually can?t perform this repair with the later open cage bearings as the laygear finish and hardness wont be good enough. Its perfectly OK for a LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic below I also include a pic of a gearbox case bored out to accept a taper roller at 1st gear end. Have done it to both ends with shim adjustment at front. Done plenty of these [A hand holding a piece of metal Description automatically generated] [A picture containing ground, outdoor, transport Description automatically generated] From: Fot > On Behalf Of fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com; britcars at bellsouth.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net; brakey6666 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > To: barry rosenberg > Cc: fubog1 >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18948 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Mon Aug 12 05:39:13 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 07:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ok, thanks for the clarification. On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Terry O?Beirne wrote: > the brass bush is just 1 way of fixing the problem being discussed. That > bush can either be fixed like in the pic, or floating, depending on the > intended use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * for the taper roller conversion, I make up a ?stub axle? that presses > into the laygear and then the bearing sits on that. I use a common wheel > bearing. part number shown on pic of case. I?ll dig thru my photo file. > Same bearing/method used at input shaft end except I have a shim plate > there to adjust end float/preload Without wanting to sound rude, this is > not a conversion for the average ?back-yarder?. It requires considerable > engineering skill and accurate machining, eg, the big holes bored in the > case must be perfectly aligned and bore right thru from 1 end of case to > the other. I gave up doing them for other people as they just take too > long and people did not want to pay the hourly rate From: Glenn > Franco > Sent: 12 August 2019 > 09:46 To: Terry O?Beirne > Cc: fubog1 >; > gblake58tr3 at icloud.com ; britcars at bellsouth.net > ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: > Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Very > interesting! Do you have a photo of the bearing install and do you use it > with the bronze bush you installed in the Laygear? Thanks Glenn On Sun, > Aug 11, 2019 at 5:53 PM Terry O?Beirne > wrote: In all my years of having a business > fixing hundreds of these boxes , I don?t think I ever had to resort to a > pulling device like shown I really am gob-smacked at what some of you > guys are doing to these boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer > can be a problem. but a hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the > most recalcitrant of these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then > be used to cut thru the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the > 1970?s we mounted a die grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used > a grinding tool in that to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then > regrind the laygear to accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear > laygear bearing has started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and > conventional lathe tooling wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get > thru the hard layer. Over the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the > idea never really changed. Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if > you leave a ?groove? or dent in the laygear housing, a replacement shell > type bearing will never last. You usually can?t perform this repair with > the later open cage bearings as the laygear finish and hardness wont be > good enough. Its perfectly OK for a LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic > below I also include a pic of a gearbox case bored out to accept a taper > roller at 1st gear end. Have done it to both ends with shim adjustment at > front. Done plenty of these [image: A hand holding a piece of metal > Description automatically generated] [image: A picture containing ground, > outdoor, transport Description automatically generated] From: > Fot > On Behalf Of > fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > ; britcars at bellsouth.net > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; brakey6666 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and > Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! > Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > > To: barry rosenberg > > Cc: fubog1 > >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] > Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last > year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all > thread rod. Worked like a champ. * > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18948 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mark at bradakis.com Wed Aug 14 00:32:09 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 00:32:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Free TR6 frames Message-ID: To send mail to fot at autox.team.net, you send mail to fot at autox.team.net.? Here's a forward of a misguided message from hankgiffin at cox.net. ===== A friend recently sold a large metal shed with two TR6 rolling frames in it in Suffolk, VA.? Both on rims and tires, one with a stripped body with some rust.? The one with the body has low tires.? I expect both will roll with air to the tires.? No engines or gearboxes.? No titles.? I have a few photos. ??? He sold the property and the shed complex is being demolished at an unknown date, supposedly relatively soon. *The frames are free.* ??????I was there yesterday to pick up a Devin body sitting on an early TR frame. ?More info to follow on that. ???? The shed is in an old overgrown industrial complex.? Very rustic.? There is an unbelievable stack of large timbers that someone would love to have, but I expect they will be destroyed in the demolition. ???? The first to get here can have them. I will give directions but probably won?t be able to meet you there. ???? There is also a stripped early Austin Healey with rusting engine and gearbox on the property.? It?s been sitting in the mud for many years.? Not much left but free as well.? I have a few photos. ???? I hate to see these get destroyed. ???? Pls call me after 9AM if you can get here soon.? Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 Subject: FREE TR6 frames in Suffolk, VA From: "Henry Giffin" Date: 8/13/19, 11:46 PM From jsukey at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 07:39:22 2019 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:39:22 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Toyota 4 pot caliper stuff for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the interest. Calipers and XP10 pads are sold. XP8 pads are still available. Jason On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:49 PM Jason Sukey wrote: > Hi all, > I converted my GT6 back to Girling calipers, have some Toyota 4 pot > calipers and pads I'd like to turn into $. These are the same calipers > that also fit the TR's. > > -Pair of calipers, need rebuilt, includes 2 rebuild kits : $75 shipped > within the USA > > - Set of Carbotech XP8 (PN: CT137-XP8) brake pads, brand new in box: $100 > shipped in the USA > > - Set of Carbotech XP10 (PN: CT137-XP10) brake pads. "used" but not even > scrubbed in. Paint hasn't been cooked off the backing plate. All 4 pads > measure between .605" and .610" overall thickness (identical to the new in > box set) : $75 shipped in the USA > > Please send any replies to jsukey at gmail.com > > Thanks, > Jason Sukey > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was there yesterday to pick up a Devin body sitting on an early TR frame. More info to follow on that. The shed is in an old overgrown industrial complex. Very rustic. There is an unbelievable stack of large timbers that someone would love to have, but I expect they will be destroyed in the demolition. The first to get here can have them. I will give directions but probably won't be able to meet you there. There is also a stripped early Austin Healey with rusting engine and gearbox on the property. It's been sitting in the mud for many years. Not much left but free as well. I have a few photos. I hate to see these get destroyed. Pls call me after 9AM if you can get here soon. Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Wed Aug 14 12:44:38 2019 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 18:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tjwakeman at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 12:50:32 2019 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:50:32 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <662a1a62-edb6-a01b-8517-6b68750adce6@gmail.com> On 8/14/19 11:44 AM, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff > lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 > rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have > heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol > I'm running Redline Redline 75W90 in my limited slip TeriAnn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 13:09:12 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:15:22 2019 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:15:22 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Running Redline MT-90 GL-4 in the Spitfire with a Detroit Locker. Is that good? The 43 year old stuff I poured out of it had the consistency of honey... Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. > > As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsukey at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:17:34 2019 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:17:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was one who had unusual bearing wear with the redline shockproof. I've since started using the Redline 75w110 (gl5) in Spitfire/GT6 differentials using a Quaife. So far, so good! Jason Sukey On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube > you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was > using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. > Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 13:19:59 2019 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1557544585.3861336.1565810399317@mail.yahoo.com> +1 to what Bob said. ? Running Mobil 1 75w140 in my TR4 with a quaife. ?We found this to handle the heat better than the Xw90 weight variety. Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 3:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tjwakeman at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:28:57 2019 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:28:57 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <873a5fb9-ea8e-e471-c2c2-b52480778822@gmail.com> On 8/14/19 12:15 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > Running Redline MT-90 GL-4 in the Spitfire with a Detroit Locker. I talked with a Redline rep. MT-90 is a GL-4 gearbox lube they recommend for the earlier gearboxes. He recommended Redline 75W90 for diffs. Check the Redline web site. TeriAnn > > Is that good? > > The 43 year old stuff I poured out of it had the consistency of honey... > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot > wrote: > >> Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The >> only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running >> the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka >> "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will >> eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 >> should not be a problem. >> >> As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been >> mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher >> numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot >> and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. >> >> Regards, >> Bob Lang >> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot >> > wrote: >> >> >> To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff >> lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 >> rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have >> heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > >http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tjwakeman at gmail.com > > -- Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada 2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write *Because the world beckons and life waits for no one* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Wed Aug 14 13:40:27 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:40:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We have been running Redline Lightweight ShockProof in ours with a Detroit Locker. We change it every 5th event and it comes out looking exactly the same as the new stuff that we are putting in. WNo signs that it has been burnt, beat-up or that it has dissolved anything that it should not have. So far, so good. Paul > On Aug 14, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > Running Redline MT-90 GL-4 in the Spitfire with a Detroit Locker. > > Is that good? > > The 43 year old stuff I poured out of it had the consistency of honey... > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot > wrote: > >> Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. >> >> As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. >> >> Regards, >> Bob Lang >> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Wed Aug 14 14:06:11 2019 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to all for your responses.? I appreciate it!-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lang To: fot ; kkjjk Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at artwithcars.com Wed Aug 14 14:11:53 2019 From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:11:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <466CEC3E-4C2C-4F91-84FE-96FFD3A05A3F@artwithcars.com> It?s a good idea to use a different color lube in the gearbox from the diff. That way you can see what?s leakin? ~Steve > On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:06 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > > Thanks to all for your responses. I appreciate it!-- Jay > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Lang > To: fot ; kkjjk > Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 3:09 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube > > Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. > > As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve at artwithcars.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Thu Aug 15 04:11:41 2019 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:11:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <466CEC3E-4C2C-4F91-84FE-96FFD3A05A3F@artwithcars.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> <466CEC3E-4C2C-4F91-84FE-96FFD3A05A3F@artwithcars.com> Message-ID: <1500848192.513357011.1565863901867.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> In 17 years racing I had a share of (limited slip) differential problems of course, but I couldn't blame the oil. I used some blands and in the end I decided for Castrol Syntrax Limited Slip 75W-140 for Salisbury type limited slip devices because this oil promises to cause less friction. It is recommended for BMW LS diffs and NissanGTR. When it is good enough for them, it must be good enough for our Triumphs. Although this oil is to GL5 specification, I wonder if this is a reason not to use it. GL5 and GL4 oils have the same sort of additives, only GL5 has the 'bad' additives in a higher concentration than GL4. And also, the salisbury (quaife) limited slip parts are all steel I believe? Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: kkjjk at aol.com Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Woensdag 14 augustus 2019 22:11:53 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Diff lube It?s a good idea to use a different color lube in the gearbox from the diff. That way you can see what?s leakin? ~Steve On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:06 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: Thanks t o all for your responses. I appreciate it!-- Jay BQ_BEGIN -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lang < [ mailto:robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com | robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ] > To: fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] >; kkjjk < [ mailto:kkjjk at aol.com | kkjjk at aol.com ] > Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards, Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ] BQ_END BQ_BEGIN _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve at artwithcars.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve at artwithcars.com ] BQ_END _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Aug 15 04:21:54 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:21:54 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars. I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil. Trouble free stuff. I use it also on the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. Cheers Chris Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Aug 15 05:09:48 2019 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 06:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> Any Redline MT or MTL fluid is designed for transmissions and is lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials. I had been using MTL in my racing diff for 7 years without a problem. This was with a gear set that likely had 50,000+ street miles on them so were well broken in. last year when I built a new diff with a new gear set, things did not go well. I used MTL and destroyed the gears in about 20 laps. The gears actually melted. The only conclusion I could draw was that I did not have the EP additive package required for hypoid gears during the critical break in period for the new gears. I now use the redline shock proof which does have the EP additives. Works like a champ. I have a welded diff. Greg Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote: > > I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars. > I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil. > Trouble free stuff. > I use it also on the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. > > Cheers > Chris > > > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 > An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com > Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Aug 15 07:20:46 2019 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1854942756.4089684.1565875246386@mail.yahoo.com> lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials.? This has always been my biggest concern, but I don't do LSDs... (well except for maybe a couple hits back in the early 70s...)Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2019 7:12 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube Any Redline MT or MTL fluid is designed for transmissions and is lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials.? I had been using MTL in my racing diff for 7 years without a problem. This was with a gear set that likely had 50,000+ street miles on them so were well broken in.? last year when I built a new diff with a new gear set, things did not go well. I used MTL and destroyed the gears in about 20 laps. The gears actually melted. The only conclusion I could draw was that I did not have the EP additive package required for hypoid gears during the critical break in period for the new gears.? I now use the redline shock proof which does have the EP additives. Works like a champ. ?I have a welded diff.? Greg Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote: #yiv7709570345 #yiv7709570345 -- _filtered #yiv7709570345 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7709570345 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv7709570345 #yiv7709570345 p.yiv7709570345MsoNormal, #yiv7709570345 li.yiv7709570345MsoNormal, #yiv7709570345 div.yiv7709570345MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7709570345 a:link, #yiv7709570345 span.yiv7709570345MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7709570345 a:visited, #yiv7709570345 span.yiv7709570345MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7709570345 p.yiv7709570345msonormal0, #yiv7709570345 li.yiv7709570345msonormal0, #yiv7709570345 div.yiv7709570345msonormal0 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7709570345 span.yiv7709570345E-MailFormatvorlage18 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv7709570345 .yiv7709570345MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv7709570345 {margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 2.0cm 70.85pt;} #yiv7709570345 div.yiv7709570345WordSection1 {} #yiv7709570345 I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars.I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil.Trouble free stuff.I use it also on ?the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. ?CheersChris ? ?Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube ?To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Aug 15 15:06:42 2019 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:06:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1854942756.4089684.1565875246386@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> <1854942756.4089684.1565875246386@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4384236D-4114-4850-9422-E0D3752B8D7D@icloud.com> It?s the sliding of the hypoid gears across each other along with the normal surface meshing of gears that requires the EP package. As I understand limited slips, certain types require other friction additives to work properly, but I have not ever paid attention to that since I just weld my carriers. No slipping happening in there. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2019, at 8:20 AM, fubog1 wrote: > > > lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials. > This has always been my biggest concern, but I don't do LSDs... (well except for maybe a couple hits back in the early 70s...) > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Blake via Fot > To: Fot > Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2019 7:12 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube > > Any Redline MT or MTL fluid is designed for transmissions and is lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials. > > I had been using MTL in my racing diff for 7 years without a problem. This was with a gear set that likely had 50,000+ street miles on them so were well broken in. > > last year when I built a new diff with a new gear set, things did not go well. I used MTL and destroyed the gears in about 20 laps. The gears actually melted. The only conclusion I could draw was that I did not have the EP additive package required for hypoid gears during the critical break in period for the new gears. > > I now use the redline shock proof which does have the EP additives. Works like a champ. I have a welded diff. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote: >> > > I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars. > I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil. > Trouble free stuff. > I use it also on the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. > > Cheers > Chris > > > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 > An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com > Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. 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Hopefully this will continue for the race. > Cheers, > Dave H. > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From billdentin at aol.com Fri Aug 16 17:07:28 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 23:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Fri Aug 16 17:07:28 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 23:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 17 06:10:30 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna In-Reply-To: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096558994.429475.1566043830828@mail.yahoo.com> Hey - that sort of looks like my paddock spot at Summit Point in 2015. Minus the broken wheel stud at the end of the Kastner Cup race. I now have a spare oil cooler in the spares (and spare hubs, too). c ya,Bob Lang On Friday, August 16, 2019, 7:11:20 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 17 06:10:30 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna In-Reply-To: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096558994.429475.1566043830828@mail.yahoo.com> Hey - that sort of looks like my paddock spot at Summit Point in 2015. Minus the broken wheel stud at the end of the Kastner Cup race. I now have a spare oil cooler in the spares (and spare hubs, too). c ya,Bob Lang On Friday, August 16, 2019, 7:11:20 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. 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URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 07:10:14 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:10:14 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) > > - Tony > On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > > ? > It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there > until 1 week prior to event. > Charly Mitchel > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tony Drews via Fot > *To:* fot at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list > > I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... > > - Tony D > On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG > event entry list. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Kathy Swinford > Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list > To: John Styduhar > > > We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. > Thanks > > Kathy Swinford > SVRA > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > > Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pamraces1 at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 07:43:32 2019 From: pamraces1 at gmail.com (Pamela Shatraw) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 06:43:32 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: John The map has been updated and is in review- The updated map reflects the Triumph paddock. On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 6:10 AM John Styduhar wrote: > More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in > September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no > entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers > or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars > and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > >> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >> >> - Tony >> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >> >> ? >> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there >> until 1 week prior to event. >> Charly Mitchel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >> >> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >> >> - Tony D >> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >> event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kathy Swinford >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Sat Aug 17 11:58:09 2019 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 11:58:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] This oil cooler failure can be seen from space Message-ID: <005401d55525$589183a0$09b48ae0$@comcast.net> This pic was taken from a satellite over Hastings, NE. I blew an oil cooler but didn't know it until I got to the grid. The corner workers were pissed ! They reminded me of it for a few years afterward. Just follow the oil dry trail. -----Original Message----- From: Dan Forgey Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:58 AM To: Jim Grey Subject: Oil Cooler Mess Race But can it be seen from outer space???? ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "triumph fot" < fot at autox.team.net> To: "triumph fot" < Fot at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 4:40:30 PM Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. 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URL: From billdentin at aol.com Sun Aug 18 11:50:42 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 17:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kas_Kastner=E2=80=99s_Sebring_TR4_=40_Goodwood?= In-Reply-To: <3EBCD7F8-E4AA-4BEA-8D5B-24935E14B903@gmail.com> References: <3EBCD7F8-E4AA-4BEA-8D5B-24935E14B903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1025441496.6947841.1566150642193@mail.yahoo.com> WOOT!? WOOT! Bill Dentinger PS...I am not really sure what "WOOT! WOOT!" means, but my grand children use it to show approval...so it must be good. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander via Fot To: fot Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2019 10:30 am Subject: [Fot] Kas Kastner?s Sebring TR4 @ Goodwood FOT, Congratulations to Keith Files and TR Enterprises on the acceptance to enter the Goodwood Revival in September. Son Josh Files to drive. If any of you are attending, this will be a great year to be there. (If there is, I would like to know. Thanks). The next important appearance of Sebring #38 will be at the Kastner Cup at Mid-Ohio next year.? SVRA?s Mid-Ohio June event. This TR4 and Keith Files won the Kastner Cup At Topeka, KS, before it was returned to England for total restoration to Kas Kastner?s original Sebring specifications. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keithfiles at btinternet.com Sun Aug 18 13:05:52 2019 From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 22:05:52 +0300 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kas_Kastner=E2=80=99s_Sebring_TR4_=40_Goodwood?= In-Reply-To: <1025441496.6947841.1566150642193@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3EBCD7F8-E4AA-4BEA-8D5B-24935E14B903@gmail.com> <1025441496.6947841.1566150642193@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <05D47F6B-5CAE-400D-8C76-92A0CE182305@btinternet.com> how cool, thanks Bill. I am pretty sure the some in-car footage will be posted? personally I am saving myself for the Saturday evening Ball which, i am sure, will be on a par with a Wisconsin supper club.. > On 18 Aug 2019, at 20:50, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: > > WOOT! WOOT! > > Bill Dentinger > > PS...I am not really sure what "WOOT! WOOT!" means, but my grand children use it to show approval...so it must be good. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Alexander via Fot > To: fot > Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2019 10:30 am > Subject: [Fot] Kas Kastner?s Sebring TR4 @ Goodwood > > FOT, > > Congratulations to Keith Files and TR Enterprises on the acceptance to enter the Goodwood Revival in September. > > Son Josh Files to drive. > > If any of you are attending, this will be a great year to be there. > > (If there is, I would like to know. Thanks). > > The next important appearance of Sebring #38 will be at the Kastner Cup at Mid-Ohio next year. SVRA?s Mid-Ohio June event. > > This TR4 and Keith Files won the Kastner Cup At Topeka, KS, before it was returned to England for total restoration to Kas Kastner?s original Sebring specifications. > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles at btinternet.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 05:41:23 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:41:23 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their website. On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: > Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. I will check > back later to see if its updated then. > > Marty > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 06:13:38 2019 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 08:13:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is going to be fun. mike h On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their > website. > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: > >> Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. I will check >> back later to see if its updated then. >> >> Marty >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 06:14:26 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:14:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I was worried that the numbers wouldn't be there. This is great! Bob Kramer On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:14 AM Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is > going to be fun. > > mike h > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > >> Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their >> website. >> >> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: >> >>> Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. 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URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Aug 19 07:01:44 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:01:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I just checked my SVRA account and even though I have an email confirmation of my registration from last December, my account page does not show the registration under Upcoming Events. I have sent that info on to Kathy Swinford tp get cleared up. Bob Kramer On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in > September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no > entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers > or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars > and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > >> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >> >> - Tony >> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >> >> ? >> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there >> until 1 week prior to event. >> Charly Mitchel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >> >> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >> >> - Tony D >> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >> event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kathy Swinford >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Mon Aug 19 07:11:48 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:11:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: My account is also empty. All I have is a receipt from last November for payment of the registration. Good enough for me. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:03 AM Bob Kramer wrote: > I just checked my SVRA account and even though I have an email > confirmation of my registration from last December, my account page does > not show the registration under Upcoming Events. I have sent that info on > to Kathy Swinford tp get cleared up. > > Bob Kramer > > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > >> More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in >> September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no >> entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers >> or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars >> and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot >> wrote: >> >>> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >>> >>> - Tony >>> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be >>> there until 1 week prior to event. >>> Charly Mitchel >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >>> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >>> >>> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >>> >>> - Tony D >>> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >>> event entry list. >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Kathy Swinford >>> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >>> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >>> To: John Styduhar >>> >>> >>> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >>> Thanks >>> >>> Kathy Swinford >>> SVRA >>> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >>> >>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >>> >>> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage : >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Aug 19 07:27:19 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:27:19 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Kathy already replied that I am all set. After a 24 hour tow the last thing I want to mess with when I get there is a registration issue. Bob Kramer On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:12 AM John Styduhar wrote: > My account is also empty. All I have is a receipt from last November for > payment of the registration. Good enough for me. > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:03 AM Bob Kramer wrote: > >> I just checked my SVRA account and even though I have an email >> confirmation of my registration from last December, my account page does >> not show the registration under Upcoming Events. I have sent that info on >> to Kathy Swinford tp get cleared up. >> >> Bob Kramer >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM John Styduhar via Fot >> wrote: >> >>> More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in >>> September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no >>> entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers >>> or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars >>> and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >>>> >>>> - Tony >>>> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be >>>> there until 1 week prior to event. >>>> Charly Mitchel >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >>>> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >>>> >>>> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >>>> >>>> - Tony D >>>> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >>>> event entry list. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: Kathy Swinford >>>> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >>>> To: John Styduhar >>>> >>>> >>>> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Kathy Swinford >>>> SVRA >>>> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >>>> >>>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >>>> >>>> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in >>>> September. 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URL: From rick.parent at att.net Wed Aug 21 07:25:59 2019 From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <167040558.157025.1566393959847@mail.yahoo.com> Here is a list of all the Triumphs registered as of today. On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 08:16:44 AM EDT, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: I was worried that the numbers wouldn't be there. This is great! Bob Kramer On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:14 AM Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is going to be fun. mike h On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their website.?? On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. I will check back later to see if its updated then. 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This is great! > > Bob Kramer > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:14 AM Mike Harmuth via Fot > wrote: > > A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is > going to be fun. > > mike h > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > > Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their > website. > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: > > Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. 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URL: From rick.parent at att.net Wed Aug 21 07:09:47 2019 From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph parking at the Glen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1154559954.158917.1566392987454@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Guys, You will need to contact Alex Miller for parking info, I am just the lowly car guy, you can reach him at alex at svra.com he would be more that glad to help you out. See you all soon! On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 08:45:25 AM EDT, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: SVRA has released the track parking map for the event. Triumph will be paddocked behind the Pit Terrace grandstands, on the front straight.?Rick Parent, Will we have access to electric there? Will motorhomes be allowed there as well? https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/WG-Program-2019-Traffic-Flow-Chart.pdf?? thanksmike h_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rick.parent at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Aug 23 08:54:46 2019 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:54:46 -0400 Subject: [Fot] VIR rebirth. Message-ID: <64842F5F44324210BA940C5BDB28E416@VlackTK121647> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwE84xIv6k&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3aLRIM7nAp6otTfUWimgnSCZYopdoNbf54Ak5LtqNobp1Sd8AMiZgpEdM Hope this link comes thru. VIR reconstruction beginning. Amazing what it has become. One of my favorite venues. 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Bill Dentinger? -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack via Fot To: FOT Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 7:55 am Subject: [Fot] VIR rebirth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwE84xIv6k&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3aLRIM7nAp6otTfUWimgnSCZYopdoNbf54Ak5LtqNobp1Sd8AMiZgpEdM?Hope this link comes thru. VIR reconstruction beginning. Amazing what it has become. One of my favorite venues.?JVV_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jfrymark at aol.com Fri Aug 23 16:00:27 2019 From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 17:00:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Message-ID: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. John Frymark ?Gee? T6 Sent from my iPad From jhasty at mhc-law.com Fri Aug 23 17:00:01 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 23:00:01 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: > > > Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. > John Frymark > ?Gee? T6 > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > From jfrymark at aol.com Fri Aug 23 17:08:36 2019 From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:08:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Aug 24 01:21:06 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 09:21:06 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From billdentin at aol.com Sat Aug 24 08:11:08 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy.? He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; fot at autox. team. net Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car?? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He has no friends" > > If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. > > Bill Dentinger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > What for is a crew needed? > I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. > > Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot > Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 > An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > John, > Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. > > John > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: > >> > >> > >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. > >> John Frymark > >> ?Gee? T6 > >> Sent from my iPad > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy.? He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; fot at autox. team. net Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car?? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? 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From cmstenquist at gmail.com Sat Aug 24 10:08:24 2019 From: cmstenquist at gmail.com (carl stenquist) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:08:24 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Marge is my Umbrella Girl, at least if I ever get a chance to race again. On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:30 AM Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: > Paul... > > Emily is a fantastic Pit Bunny. > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Ricco > To: Bill Dentinger ; Friends of Triumph < > fot at autox.team.net> > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 8:16 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I > always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: > > Chris... > > If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. > > I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no > friends" > > If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a > halter top. > > Bill Dentinger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; > fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > What for is a crew needed? > I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and > race them on my own. > > Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without > any help. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot > Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 > An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > John, > Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few > minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. > > John > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind > pulling me from the car? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that > I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. > >> John Frymark > >> ?Gee? T6 > >> Sent from my iPad > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cmstenquist at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Aug 24 10:11:30 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:11:30 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003301d55a96$98084250$c818c6f0$@gmail.com> To be honest, I leave my wife at home. Makes things easier. * No need for hotel * Working on the car as I like * Drinking as much beer I like * And many things more wifes doesn?t tolerate Cheers Chris Von: Fot Im Auftrag von carl stenquist via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 18:08 An: Bill Dentinger Cc: fot Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Marge is my Umbrella Girl, at least if I ever get a chance to race again. On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:30 AM Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: Paul... Emily is a fantastic Pit Bunny. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ricco > To: Bill Dentinger >; Friends of Triumph > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 8:16 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' >; 'John H. Hasty' >; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cmstenquist at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm > running a Kastner A10a cam. > > I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the > correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve > keepers. > > Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? > > Thanks! > > > *Brad Eells* > *Chino CA* > *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* > *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* > *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sat Aug 24 11:10:31 2019 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:10:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Valve Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <963C8C06-12F2-43F0-9E87-00A0C144DFF0@gmail.com> And APT is just around the corner from you. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 24, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > Hi Brad, I just ordered a set directly from Isky yesterday, they had them in stock. I'm running an APT BK-74 cam. David, at APT, also has springs as well and BP Northwest has springs that are OK up to 0.500 lift. > > Isky PN > wwe-005 outer > sp-116 inner > > mike h > >> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >> Hello Amici, >> >> Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm running a Kastner A10a cam. >> >> I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve keepers. >> >> Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Sat Aug 24 11:11:54 2019 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Valve Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1786506316.680315.1566666714412@myemail.cox.net> Ted Schumacher sold me a set of ISKY dual springs back in 2000. Joe > On August 24, 2019 at 11:28 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > Hello Amici, > > Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm running a Kastner A10a cam. > > I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve keepers. > > Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? > > Thanks! > > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhasty at mhc-law.com Sat Aug 24 15:09:01 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 21:09:01 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com>, <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> Message-ID: UG...rock band, just give me my Martin D41 & a bluegrass mandolin, banjo & base Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot > wrote: Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' >; 'John H. Hasty' >; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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David, at APT, also has springs as well and BP Northwest has springs that are OK up to 0.500 lift. > > Isky PN > wwe-005 outer > sp-116 inner > > mike h > >> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >> Hello Amici, >> >> Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm running a Kastner A10a cam. >> >> I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve keepers. >> >> Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 466451 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sjanzen at me.com Sun Aug 25 07:50:29 2019 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 09:50:29 -0400 Subject: [Fot] GT6 engine with "special" on the block? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65C994DF-A3BF-480F-B775-BA209CE511A4@me.com> I?ve only seen those cast bulges on a late model GT6 engine - I assume it?s because the blocks were interchangeable with the TR6 in later years, but am not sure. Designed to clear the larger stroke of the TR6??? If this is the same as mine, the block is about 25 lb heavier than the earlier GT6 engine and I see no benefit to having it. However, mine does not say Special on it. On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: This came up the other day on a Triumph forum. Stumping everyone there. Any ideas what SPECIAL on the casting means ? Not my car but interested in what it means. "Engine number is KD7632E So my son?s gt6 is a mk2 w a mk1 engine in it. One thing I?ve never seen on a 6 cylinder engine is the word Special embossed on the block. It?s next to the drain plug on the right side. Anyone seen that before? " Thanks Mike H _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobeirne at skillpro.com.au Sun Aug 25 16:06:15 2019 From: tobeirne at skillpro.com.au (=?utf-8?B?VGVycnkgT+KAmUJlaXJuZQ==?=) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 22:06:15 +0000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 engine with "special" on the block? In-Reply-To: <65C994DF-A3BF-480F-B775-BA209CE511A4@me.com> References: <65C994DF-A3BF-480F-B775-BA209CE511A4@me.com> Message-ID: I have never seen a block marked ?special? in +40 years of working on them Yes, the bulges were for clearance and stiffening in the later 2500. Both TR and Saloon got this change , post 1972 I recall when they started using the O ring type head gasket The earlier 2500 blocks both TR5/TR6 and 2500 Saloon, were all flat sided. Ive seen post 72 2000 engines with flat sides, so maybe there was not a clean changeover date Terry From: Fot On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot Sent: 25 August 2019 23:50 To: Mike Harmuth Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 engine with "special" on the block? I?ve only seen those cast bulges on a late model GT6 engine - I assume it?s because the blocks were interchangeable with the TR6 in later years, but am not sure. Designed to clear the larger stroke of the TR6??? If this is the same as mine, the block is about 25 lb heavier than the earlier GT6 engine and I see no benefit to having it. However, mine does not say Special on it. On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot > wrote: This came up the other day on a Triumph forum. Stumping everyone there. Any ideas what SPECIAL on the casting means ? Not my car but interested in what it means. "Engine number is KD7632E So my son?s gt6 is a mk2 w a mk1 engine in it. One thing I?ve never seen on a 6 cylinder engine is the word Special embossed on the block. It?s next to the drain plug on the right side. Anyone seen that before? " Thanks Mike H _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Aug 26 20:07:13 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 21:07:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: After some difficult consideration I'm going to have to cancel my trip too. I'm shorthanded at work and just can't justify all the towing time while I can race here in TX . I'm going to regret this, I'm sure, but I have to do what makes sense. I see you all at Mid Ohio. 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URL: From billdentin at aol.com Mon Aug 26 21:06:59 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 03:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen References: <1466376415.3268194.1566875219666.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1466376415.3268194.1566875219666@mail.yahoo.com> Too bad, Bob...maybe next time. ?Watkins Glen is a Bucket?List track.Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Monday, August 26, 2019,?Bob Kramer via Fot??wrote: After some difficult consideration I'm going to have to cancel my trip too. I'm shorthanded at work and just can't justify all the towing time while I can race here in TX . I'm going to regret this, I'm sure, but I have to do what makes sense. I see you all at Mid Ohio.? Bob Kramer? On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 5:03 PM John Frymark via Fot wrote: Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. John Frymark ?Gee? T6 Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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T6 Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mzbarsky at yahoo.com Mon Aug 26 21:17:24 2019 From: mzbarsky at yahoo.com (Michael Zbarsky) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 03:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where to source them? Thanks, Mike ZTriumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bownes at web9.com Mon Aug 26 22:17:59 2019 From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 01:17:59 -0300 Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm interested in finding a set as well if someone stumbles across a set. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:17 AM Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: > Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where > to source them? > > Thanks, Mike Z > Triumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emanteno at comcast.net Tue Aug 27 03:18:25 2019 From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 04:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:17 PM Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: > Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where > to source them? > http://www.britishframeandengine.com/parts.html NFI. Irv Korey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 08:54:09 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 14:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> Hi - I hope you get some good offers, but the other responses I've seen so far are more likely to pan out: British Frame and Engine, APTFast, TSImported, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that has the situation, but I have several partial sets - .020 over, .050 over from broken engines. The .050 overs were from a TR6 running SCCA GT3 motor - the driver broke TWO pistons. In theory, you can get matching pistons for those sets from the manufacturers, but good luck finging a job number or other info. that you could use to get one or two pistons cut to complete a set. Especially, if the pistons are 20+ years old. If you wind up getting a custom set, my advice is to spend some extra $$$ and get 8, that way you have a couple of spares for the next engine which will be needed if/when you break a crank or chuck a rod. Also, seems to me you should be looking at building a GT6 engine - it is much more forgiving if you want to spin the engine fast, like more than 6000. Going for huge power is over-rated unless you just want to spend a lot of $$$. Just sayin'. Regards,Bob Lang On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:17:50 PM EDT, Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where to source them? Thanks, Mike ZTriumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Tue Aug 27 10:07:00 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 12:07:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good comments Bob. Tullius ended up running the smaller 6 in his Group 44 TR6 and dropping down a class. Very competitive. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > Hi - I hope you get some good offers, but the other responses I've seen so > far are more likely to pan out: British Frame and Engine, APTFast, > TSImported, etc. > > I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that has the situation, but I have > several partial sets - .020 over, .050 over from broken engines. The .050 > overs were from a TR6 running SCCA GT3 motor - the driver broke TWO > pistons. In theory, you can get matching pistons for those sets from the > manufacturers, but good luck finging a job number or other info. that you > could use to get one or two pistons cut to complete a set. Especially, if > the pistons are 20+ years old. > > If you wind up getting a custom set, my advice is to spend some extra $$$ > and get 8, that way you have a couple of spares for the next engine which > will be needed if/when you break a crank or chuck a rod. > > Also, seems to me you should be looking at building a GT6 engine - it is > much more forgiving if you want to spin the engine fast, like more than > 6000. Going for huge power is over-rated unless you just want to spend a > lot of $$$. > > Just sayin'. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:17:50 PM EDT, Michael Zbarsky via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where > to source them? > > Thanks, Mike Z > Triumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Tue Aug 27 14:06:59 2019 From: levilevi at comcast.net (ELWYN) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 14:06:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted Message-ID: I have some stock size Venolia positions I?d sell. Bud ------ Original Message ------ From: FOT To: FOT Sent: August 26, 2019 at 9:17 PM Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where to source them? Thanks, Mike Z Triumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trmarty at hotmail.com Tue Aug 27 14:25:24 2019 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:25:24 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Mixing tire sizes? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Sending the email below on behalf of Brian Schirano who cant get through to the list. Marty ________________________________ From: Brian Schirano Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:56 PM To: Marty Sukey Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes? Marty - do me a favor and send this off to FOT for me. Twice now I have gotten a message something to effect waiting for moderator, non member. Strange Thanks Brian ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Brian Schirano > Date: Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 3:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes? To: FOT > 2nd attempt, first one said I wasn't a member?? Hi Friends Getting ready for the last hurrah of the season for me at Watkins Glen. Question - what's the conventional wisdom within the FOT WRT mixing tires sizes on our road racers. Specifically, on my GT6, I am contemplating running 205s on the back and 185s on the front. I have run the 205s all around a number of times but the clearance is super tight up front. These are all Toyo R888s. Comments? Thanks Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 14:36:39 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Mixing tire sizes? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2112278883.2082101.1566938199189@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Brian - The size difference will change the handling a bit but you can "tune" the difference back to more neutral, if you want. My guess is that you'd introduce some understeer with the smaller contact patch in the front. What about running 185's all the way around? I guess the big thing for most of us is whether you want to carry more spare tires / wheels in case you have a problem over the course of a weekend. If all four corners are the same, a pair of spares should be all you need. If you have different sizes front and back you pretty much need four spare tire / wheels... not that I ever argued this endlessly with a certain car owner who just never seemed to get the "KISS" principle. WE spend over $5k on tires for one autox season back around '07. That was not smart (or simple). Personally, I like having the option to switch back to front or to swap in another pair of tires at one end or the other to fix handling issues. My tuppence. c ya,Bob Lang On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 4:25:48 PM EDT, marty via Fot wrote: Sending the email below on behalf of Brian Schirano who cant get through to the list. Marty From: Brian Schirano Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:56 PM To: Marty Sukey Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes??Marty - do me a favor and send this off to FOT for me. Twice now I have gotten a message something to effect waiting for moderator, non member. StrangeThanksBrian ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Brian Schirano Date: Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 3:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes? To: FOT 2nd attempt, first one said I wasn't a member??? Hi Friends Getting ready for the last hurrah of the season for me at Watkins Glen.? Question - what's the conventional wisdom within the FOT WRT mixing tires sizes on our road racers. Specifically, on my GT6, I am contemplating running 205s on the back and 185s on the front. I have run the 205s all around a number of times but the clearance is super tight up front. These are all Toyo R888s. Comments? ThanksBrian _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com Fri Aug 23 12:45:21 2019 From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:45:21 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR8 Parts Request Message-ID: <7A484B0A781A9940931D66568758C25D23FE42CD@A0775-XPO1043-C.ad.allstate.com> To All - I am looking for the following parts for my 1980 TR8 1) Rubber cover for the ball joints 2) Rubber cover for the front tie rods Any assistance would be appreciated. Larry Ross (412) 780-8495 - cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Aug 24 09:06:28 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 17:06:28 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401d55a8d$8241da20$86c58e60$@gmail.com> Hi Bill, as racing in Europe is organized in racing series, you meet the same people on every track. There is not lack of friends. I prefer to be able to do everything on my own, just in case nobody has time or is willing to help. But sometimes you need some help?..I play in a rock band and I can?t play every instrument?.so help is needed for a good sound. Cheers Chris Von: Bill Dentinger Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 16:11 An: tr4racing at googlemail.com; jfrymark at aol.com; jhasty at mhc-law.com; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' >; 'John H. Hasty' >; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bschirano1 at gmail.com Tue Aug 27 19:30:17 2019 From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:30:17 -0400 Subject: [Fot] mixed tire sizes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, will do a couple experiments. I'm bringing full sets of both sizes, and if I can find the room I have a set of Hoosier TDs, that would be three sets of tires, A bit overkill, just trying to use up the 205s Thanls B On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:39 PM Kas Kastner wrote: > This will work, but suggest reducing rear camber as the bigger tires > (wider) will give more gip, thus more understeer. thsi is when the rear > anti-roll bar comes into play. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue Aug 27 19:37:57 2019 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:37:57 -0400 Subject: [Fot] mixed tire sizes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: my experience with the GT6 is that the front tires do much more work than the rears in many respects. They wear faster, get hotter, need lower tire pressures to start to be equal at the end of the session with the rears. I don?t see any benefit to running wider tires just in the rear - this car is nose heavy and the front brakes do most of the work. I?d get the front fenders worked a bit to accommodate the larger tires - I found the same thing, that the R888Rs are slightly bigger than the old Toyos, and had to get a little clearance work done. I think you are short changing yourself with the 185s. You?ll find that the car will understeer more. Not that larger tires in the rear will hurt you, but smaller tires in the front will hurt. If you correct for it so the car is balanced, my guess is the car will be slower overall. Just my 2 cents. On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Thanks, will do a couple experiments. I'm bringing full sets of both sizes, and if I can find the room I have a set of Hoosier TDs, that would be three sets of tires, A bit overkill, just trying to use up the 205s Thanls B On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:39 PM Kas Kastner > wrote: This will work, but suggest reducing rear camber as the bigger tires (wider) will give more gip, thus more understeer. thsi is when the rear anti-roll bar comes into play. 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Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > I got a note from an old friend who has some TR racing photos, some digital, that he wants to donate to the FOT. > Who can I put him in touch with? > Thanks > Glen > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 89166 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are working with Moss Motors as the facilities to display the materials at The Petersburg, VA facility. In addition, we plan to resurrect the now dormant British Sports Car Hall Of Fame. This all may be administered by the Coventry Foundation and only housed by Moss. Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: I got a note from an old friend who has some TR racing photos, some digital, that he wants to donate to the FOT.Who can I put him in touch with?ThanksGlen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander via Fot To: fubog1 Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Aug 28, 2019 10:08 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR photos for archiving with FOT, who to contact? Glen, I am currently working on a project to archive Kas Kastner?s artifacts and pictures. I can accept the pictures and fold it into our project. The plan is to bring this stuff together with Mike Cook?s Archives, with VTR. We are working with Moss Motors as the facilities to display the materials at The Petersburg, VA facility. In addition, we plan to resurrect the now dormant British Sports Car Hall Of Fame. This all may be administered by the Coventry Foundation and only housed by Moss. Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: I got a note from an old friend who has some TR racing photos, some digital, that he wants to donate to the FOT.Who can I put him in touch with?ThanksGlen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jack ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Rick via Mgs To: Eric Russell Cc: MGs Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 3:55:31 PM EDTSubject: Re: [Mgs] To do Great plan! I'm restoring a TR6, almost as I type. I first verified the lack of rust then restored the engine and verified that it ran great. Then the suspension and brakes. The car is now stripped bare and ready for paint. The fun part will begin next: reassembly.? On Aug 28, 2019 2:20 PM, Eric Russell via Mgs wrote: When I decided to re-restore my MGA the 'To Do' list had three entries. 1) repair body 2) replace chassis 3) rebuild drivetrain It is good to break it down into easy to complete tasks... Eric Russell Mebane, NC _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jfrymark at aol.com Wed Aug 28 17:36:58 2019 From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark MacBook) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 18:36:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Tire sizes for GT6 Message-ID: <3BB4AC05-3CCC-44B6-9618-86D50D238B2A@aol.com> Brian, I have run the R888s on my GT6 as you stated: 185 front and 205 rear. There?s plenty of clearance?in fact the 185s looked kind of undersized. But the handling and corner turn in seemed good to me. I ended up dropping air pressures to low 20s so it takes a lap to get up to full speed. I have not run the 888r?s but have to believe they are equivalent/ Have fun at the Glen (still bummed I have to cancel!) John Frymark From mzbarsky at yahoo.com Wed Aug 28 18:08:46 2019 From: mzbarsky at yahoo.com (Michael Zbarsky) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1455490662.669315.1567037326113@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks All for responses. I?ll follow up on some individually. Going with 2500 instead of 2000 as I have most of the 2500 components already. Block, head, crank etc. When I blow this one up I?ll build a 2000! Mike On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 9:07 AM, John Styduhar wrote: Good comments Bob.? Tullius ended up running the smaller 6 in his Group 44 TR6 and dropping down a class.? Very competitive. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Hi - I hope you get some good offers, but the other responses I've seen so far are more likely to pan out: British Frame and Engine, APTFast, TSImported, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that has the situation, but I have several partial sets - .020 over, .050 over from broken engines. The .050 overs were from a TR6 running SCCA GT3 motor - the driver broke TWO pistons. In theory, you can get matching pistons for those sets from the manufacturers, but good luck finging a job number or other info. that you could use to get one or two pistons cut to complete a set. Especially, if the pistons are 20+ years old. If you wind up getting a custom set, my advice is to spend some extra $$$ and get 8, that way you have a couple of spares for the next engine which will be needed if/when you break a crank or chuck a rod. Also, seems to me you should be looking at building a GT6 engine - it is much more forgiving if you want to spin the engine fast, like more than 6000. Going for huge power is over-rated unless you just want to spend a lot of $$$. Just sayin'. Regards,Bob Lang On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:17:50 PM EDT, Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where to source them? Thanks, Mike ZTriumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Aug 29 13:20:09 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:20:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers Message-ID: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> FOT, Good afternoon. We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. Paul Ricco (813) 716-1931 From paulricco at att.net Thu Aug 29 14:06:37 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:06:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> Message-ID: These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: > > FOT, > > Good afternoon. > > We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. > > We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. > > However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. > > They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. > > Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. > > Paul Ricco > (813) 716-1931 From jhasty at mhc-law.com Thu Aug 29 14:32:38 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 20:32:38 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net>, Message-ID: Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. > > Paul > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >> >> FOT, >> >> Good afternoon. >> >> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >> >> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >> >> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >> >> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >> >> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >> >> Paul Ricco >> (813) 716-1931 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu Aug 29 15:19:26 2019 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:19:26 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> Message-ID: Not at VARA... Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2019, at 1:32 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From paulricco at att.net Thu Aug 29 15:19:36 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:19:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> Message-ID: <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net> John, As I said, I am not running them. However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them. My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well. They have not arrested him either. So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> From triumphsix at yahoo.com Thu Aug 29 15:29:19 2019 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net> References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net> Message-ID: <1178182140.12330.1567114159615@mail.yahoo.com> Toyota ownership is definitely a crime! ???? Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 5:19 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John, As I said, I am not running them.? However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them.? My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well.? They have not arrested him either.? So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold.? Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car.? However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used.? They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in.? If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhasty at mhc-law.com Thu Aug 29 17:05:34 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:05:34 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <1178182140.12330.1567114159615@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net>, <1178182140.12330.1567114159615@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <60E790C7-B94A-417A-83AA-8644FCA05387@mhc-law.com> Sorry all.... the devil made me do it... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2019, at 5:29 PM, David Gott > wrote: Toyota ownership is definitely a crime! ??? Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 5:19 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot > wrote: John, As I said, I am not running them. However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them. My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well. They have not arrested him either. So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot > wrote: >> >> These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco > wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They have not arrested him either.? So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold.? Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car.? However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used.? They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in.? If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 6:15:31 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Triumph Racing Racing is safest when everyone is going in the same direction. [cid:c7e51e25-259e-443c-ab66-b4703f2633fd at namprd15.prod.outlook.com] Robert Goldman Collection. 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At the Sunday feature race, there were so many Volvo?s off the track that they had to black flag the race after the warm-up lap?.All part of the fun in the end > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > > It's also easier to tell who won. > > > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > > From: Fot on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 6:15:31 AM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Triumph Racing > > Racing is safest when everyone is going in the same direction. > > > Robert Goldman Collection. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=%2BaOWhu3qyGuOW1CN%2FgYqJkbpW4B%2Fi%2BqTF9NMUnKY%2FNo%3D&reserved=0 > > Donate: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=FVzpKHoM8o4EakI%2FrfoXJUyCPU5zz4lH4GEVWSdoC%2FM%3D&reserved=0 > Archive: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=1bL7HQTLuavEGXvTCxw3Q6xCDTxIleWFv7PsA3Tet4c%3D&reserved=0 https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=Oec7Z8X76QC14AE0F%2B2rI%2BdU2j2oZQkKyALu0KCNYxc%3D&reserved=0 > Unsubscribe/Manage: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fsbarr%40mccarty-law.com&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225982612&sdata=XSO3NN25ibgYvvUl70PQ1snQ08mHLkek5%2B9FPDTyjrQ%3D&reserved=0 > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 09:00:28 AM CDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Amici... I've got one of those 'Direction' photos in my files too.? It is from 1990, at IRP, John Harkness (#37) and I (#29) were dicing all weekend long, when all at once John decided to go back to the previous corner to get some 'direction' from the workers.? The photo was used for a calendar in 1991. ?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can't find the list... - Tony D On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG > event entry list. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Kathy Swinford* > > Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list > To: John Styduhar > > > > We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com > . > Thanks > > Kathy Swinford > SVRA > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar > wrote: > >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in >> September. Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Thu Aug 1 12:32:46 2019 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 11:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there until 1 week prior to event. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Drews via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... - Tony D On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG event entry list. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Kathy Swinford Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list To: John Styduhar We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. Thanks Kathy Swinford SVRA Sportscar Vintage Racing Association On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Aug 1 12:43:21 2019 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 13:43:21 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> Message-ID: <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend.? :) - Tony On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > ? > It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event.? Maybe won't be > there until 1 week prior to event. > Charly Mitchel > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tony Drews via Fot > *To:* fot at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list > > I wonder where on their site it's published.? I can't find the list... > > - Tony D > > On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , >> concerning WG event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: *Kathy Swinford* > > >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar > >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com >> . >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar > > wrote: >> >>> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in >>> September.? 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URL: From emanteno at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 13:12:03 2019 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 14:12:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] DIRECTION In-Reply-To: <2055603607.792881.1564667993661@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2055603607.792881.1564667993661.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2055603607.792881.1564667993661@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here's mine. Grattan 1999. . [image: image.jpeg] First lap, she spun, and was driving counter race to the back of the pack so that she could turn around and return to the race. My friend saw this photo op developing, and captured the moment. Irv Korey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Scan_20190801 (3).jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 188786 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 45217 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 15:26:43 2019 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I found the Indy entry list on the Indy event page. The Glen event page is similar, sure it will be there. Indy https://svra.com/events/2019-brickyard-vintage-racing-invitational/ The Glen https://svra.com/events/2019-us-vintage-grand-prix/ On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:29 PM Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... > > - Tony D > On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG > event entry list. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Kathy Swinford > Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list > To: John Styduhar > > > We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. > Thanks > > Kathy Swinford > SVRA > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > > Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 15:30:51 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 16:30:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I am interested in the list as well. When you are towing cross country, knowing the size of the Triumph clan attending matters. Bob Kramer On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > I found the Indy entry list on the Indy event page. The Glen event page is > similar, sure it will be there. > > Indy > https://svra.com/events/2019-brickyard-vintage-racing-invitational/ > > The Glen > https://svra.com/events/2019-us-vintage-grand-prix/ > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:29 PM Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > >> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >> >> - Tony D >> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >> event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kathy Swinford >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Porsche vs. Jaguar vs. BMW vs. Ferrari? > > > > I see American cars in one group, then very small groups from only 4-6 > cars. > > > > What is the system behind this? > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 16:58:08 2019 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 22:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <002601d548b1$321bed80$9653c880$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1955379015.1067947.1564700288277@mail.yahoo.com> FV has a series here in the Mid-West and East Central. I believe FJ also has a series not sure though. On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 04:45:25 PM CDT, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: We are all spread out too far away to have a series. It would be great but not practical. Bob Kramer On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM Chris Marx via Fot wrote: Hu Guys, ? after having a look on the Indy entry list?.this is very different from Europe. In Europe all racing is organized in racing series. These series sorting the cars by their own will. ? Looking on this entry list, it seems there are no racing series in USA? There are groups and cars of similar types are sorted in this groups? But how about a competition? Porsche vs. Jaguar vs. BMW vs. Ferrari? ? I see American cars in one group, then very small groups from only 4-6 cars. ? What is the system behind this? ? Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Irv Korey _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 45217 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com Sat Aug 3 12:34:51 2019 From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 14:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Nomination for FoT Message-ID: I would like to nominate Tim Ross for membership in FoT. He has 3 Spitfires, a '63, '64 racecar and a '65 that is undergoing restoration. Any seconds? Some of the cars are for sale, and he has parts for sale. Mark, his email is hugcrv at fuse.net. 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Any seconds? > > Some of the cars are for sale, and he has parts for sale. > > Mark, his email is hugcrv at fuse.net . > > Cheers, > Doug Mitchell > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Sat Aug 3 12:55:47 2019 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 11:55:47 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination for FoT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89287A26-AF69-47AC-A6B6-A37404C8E2FF@gmail.com> A 3 Spitfire guy? Of course! 2nd!! Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Doug Mitchell via Fot wrote: > > I would like to nominate Tim Ross for membership in FoT. He has 3 Spitfires, a '63, '64 racecar and a '65 that is undergoing restoration. Any seconds? > > Some of the cars are for sale, and he has parts for sale. > > Mark, his email is hugcrv at fuse.net. > > Cheers, > Doug Mitchell > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Sat Aug 3 17:08:14 2019 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:08:14 -0400 Subject: [Fot] History of racing at Watkins Glen Message-ID: Classic Motorsports just sent out this old British Leyland documentary, by Brock Yates Sr, about racing at the Glen. Looks like it originally came out in 1972, It starts off with an ad for a Spitfire 1500. "Get the car, get the girl and a piece of History" See you there next month. https://youtu.be/0RuXJ5W1qxk enjoy mike h -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joeg at neb.rr.com Sun Aug 4 07:33:54 2019 From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 08:33:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Questions about TR8 Race Car Message-ID: <002f01d54ac9$44707400$cd515c00$@neb.rr.com> Possible GT1 Huffaker Clone - Greg Sharpe is asking questions in The Triumph Experience "Motorsports" forum. Link - https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/motorsports-forum.22/tr-8-gt1-huffaker-clon e.1637638/ I know almost nothing about these, so suggested we might find some FOT members with information. If you are interested in providing any information, please follow the link and post on the forum or reply directly to Greg at gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com. Thanks in advance! 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If you are interested in providing any information, please follow the link and post on the forum or reply directly to Greg at gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com. > > Thanks in advance! > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, Nebraska > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fmccjr at aol.com Sat Aug 3 18:58:45 2019 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 20:58:45 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> I?d like to nominate Michael Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! mleccese1 at verizon.net Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 4 13:27:43 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 19:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> Message-ID: <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> SECOND - but, does Michael have an e-mail address?? Regards,Bob Lang On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 3:18:45 PM EDT, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: I?d like to nominate Michael Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! mleccese1 at verizon.net Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Sun Aug 4 13:40:55 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 14:40:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> Message-ID: <7D560107-6A7A-483F-9CD4-00DE91962C9C@att.net> Second. We could always another TR4 team in the group. Welcome Michael. Hopefully we will see them at Watkins? Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:58 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > From joeg at neb.rr.com Sun Aug 4 17:04:01 2019 From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 18:04:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Questions about TR8 Race Car In-Reply-To: <986B331A-4232-4111-B259-F3FFC5833C82@rogers.com> References: <002f01d54ac9$44707400$cd515c00$@neb.rr.com> <986B331A-4232-4111-B259-F3FFC5833C82@rogers.com> Message-ID: <004001d54b18$e9bbb970$bd332c50$@neb.rr.com> Thanks, Paul. I knew (hoped?) someone in this group would know something about it. Joe G From: MACDONALD Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:49 AM To: Joe Guinan Cc: fot at autox.team.net; gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Questions about TR8 Race Car I have a bunch of info on the car. Talked to Chuck a number of times over the past 10 -15 years. Will share what I have, when I get to my pc. Paul Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Joe Guinan via Fot > wrote: Possible GT1 Huffaker Clone ? Greg Sharpe is asking questions in The Triumph Experience ?Motorsports? forum. Link - https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/motorsports-forum.22/tr-8-gt1-huffaker-clone.1637638/ I know almost nothing about these, so suggested we might find some FOT members with information. If you are interested in providing any information, please follow the link and post on the forum or reply directly to Greg at gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com. Thanks in advance! Joe Guinan Fremont, Nebraska _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sun Aug 4 20:54:25 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 20:54:25 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 8/4/19 1:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > SECOND - but, does Michael have an e-mail address?? > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 3:18:45 PM EDT, fmccjr--- via Fot > wrote: > > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he > put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the > VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive > spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Yes, he has an email address.? And unlike many, the person who posted the nomination included it in the original message - it is the mleccese1 at verizon.net line.? Some folks present a nomination, and expect me to somehow conjure up the nominee's email address to add out of thin air.? Such are the joys of being the list admin. mjb. From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Mon Aug 5 03:35:51 2019 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 19:35:51 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Canadian GP--sort of TR related Message-ID: A few of us are looking to come over for the 2020 kastner Cup and may come early and go to the Canadian GP in Montreal do we have any Montreal (or other) members that can give us some local "intelligence" on this event, grandstands to book, places to stay , etc etc thanks terry o'beirne australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mleccese1 at verizon.net Mon Aug 5 06:57:02 2019 From: mleccese1 at verizon.net (mleccese1 at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 12:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1879831044.1136079.1565009822850@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you I look forward to participating in FOT. Yes the TR4 vintage race car that is built from a car we pulled (yes winched out) from a swamp in some guys side yard in Maine so it was rough but now (many years later) it is a vintage racer. my email address as you know is mleccese1 at verizon.net and I live north of Boston and plan to participate in vintage racing on the East Coast in the next couple of years Thank YouMichael Leccese -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis via Fot To: fot Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2019 10:58 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination On 8/4/19 1:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > SECOND - but, does Michael have an e-mail address?? > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 3:18:45 PM EDT, fmccjr--- via Fot > wrote: > > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he > put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the > VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive > spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Yes, he has an email address.? And unlike many, the person who posted the nomination included it in the original message - it is the mleccese1 at verizon.net line.? Some folks present a nomination, and expect me to somehow conjure up the nominee's email address to add out of thin air.? Such are the joys of being the list admin. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mleccese1 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Aug 5 07:52:31 2019 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:52:31 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Barry Munson. Attending the KCup 2020 at M-O. Message-ID: We are enjoying the hospitality of Barry Munson at his Log Mansion near Edmonton AB. Barry has entered or attended 8-9 KCups in recent years. Traveling long distances....Mid-Ohio is long Tow for him and his TR3, but he is a stalwart follower. So we will have attendees from UK, Canada, and Australia. What a wonderful group we have! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hotels generally charge 3 times the normal rate for that week-end, and you may be forced to book 3 nights. Maybe better rates at bed and breakfast places or through Air BnB, I don't really know. Have fun! Claude On Monday, August 5, 2019, 05:34:39 a.m. EDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: A few of us are looking to come over for the 2020? kastner Cup and may come early and go to the Canadian GP in Montreal do we have any Montreal (or other) members that can give us some local "intelligence" on this event, grandstands to book, places to stay , etc etc thanks terry o'beirneaustralia _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lotusgagne at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mleccese1 at verizon.net Mon Aug 5 11:53:56 2019 From: mleccese1 at verizon.net (mleccese1 at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 17:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <7D560107-6A7A-483F-9CD4-00DE91962C9C@att.net> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> <7D560107-6A7A-483F-9CD4-00DE91962C9C@att.net> Message-ID: <1928456298.1277091.1565027636272@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you I look forward to FOT. I am looking to join the VSCCA and Mark O,day said I would need a recommendation from a member. Are you a member? Would you recommend me for membership so I can run with the VSCCA in future events....? Please let me know Thank you,Michael Leccese -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ricco To: fmccjr ; Friends of Triumph ; mleccese1 Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2019 3:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Second. We could always another TR4 team in the group. Welcome Michael. Hopefully we will see them at Watkins? Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:58 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/logo_small_dppi.png] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_facebook.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_twitter.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_googleplus.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_linkedin.jpg] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13124 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:26 AM DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot wrote: > Hey membership, > > > > I got a good buddy, well as good as one can get that messes with > non-Triumph stuff anyway LOL!! > > He has purchased a WWII belly tank located in Hummelsburg, PA and needs to > get it one the way or to the Los Angeles area. Close to there, like Vegas, > or somewhere north is good as well. Anyway he?s honest and fair and is > willing to pay for someone?s spare trailer space. I attached a pic of it, > hope the site allows it to post never did a pic here before??? It?s right > at 10 feet long and about 24 inches tall. Move the Triumph off to one side > of the trailer and slide this right in next to it. Get your fuel paid for > free maybe??? > > > > [image: http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/logo_small_dppi.png] > > > > > > *Mark Craig *Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. > 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 > www.dieselperformanceparts.com > > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_facebook.jpg] > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_twitter.jpg] > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_googleplus.jpg] > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_linkedin.jpg] > > > > > > > Phone: 615-834-0066 > Fax: 615-834-9923 > Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mckearn2 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. :-( C ya,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage.? So one less supplier for racing parts._______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Wed Aug 7 16:46:33 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:46:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SPEC pressure plates NLA for TR4A-6 In-Reply-To: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John and Bob, I agree. We have had an excellent experience with SPEC. WThey got stuff to us quickly and it has all held up very well. SPEC parts have been very reliable for us as well. It is unfortunate that another domestic supplier that was willing to help us is dropping out. Paul Ricco > On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > Major bummer - I've been using them for around 20 years with excellent results. > > Oh well. I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. > > :-( > > C ya, > Bob Lang > > On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage. 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URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 16:58:15 2019 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 22:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] SPEC pressure plates NLA for TR4A-6 In-Reply-To: References: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44589863.1968870.1565218695055@mail.yahoo.com> Just an observation; the parts are still listed on the SPEC website; could it be that the supplier the contact uses just doesn?t list the parts anymore? https://www.specclutches.com/618043/spec-stage5-pressure-plate-tr4a-stcr305-537400? -Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 6:46 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John and Bob, I agree. ?We have had an excellent experience with SPEC. ? WThey got stuff to us quickly and it has all held up very well. ?SPEC parts have been very reliable for us as well. ?It is unfortunate that another domestic supplier that was willing to help us is dropping out. Paul Ricco On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Major bummer - I've been using them for around 20 years with excellent results. Oh well. I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. :-( C ya,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage.? So one less supplier for racing parts._______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 8 04:32:32 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 10:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] SPEC pressure plates NLA for TR4A-6 In-Reply-To: <44589863.1968870.1565218695055@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> <44589863.1968870.1565218695055@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1113507507.2076397.1565260352608@mail.yahoo.com> Hi - yeah, interesting. The specclutches.com web site was down yesterday, but now seems to be working okay. Turns out that I need a clutch, I may try ordering one later today just to make sure that this option still is viable. OTOH, the Sachs pressure plates seem to work okay... Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 7:02:26 PM EDT, David Gott via Fot wrote: Just an observation; the parts are still listed on the SPEC website; could it be that the supplier the contact uses just doesn?t list the parts anymore? https://www.specclutches.com/618043/spec-stage5-pressure-plate-tr4a-stcr305-537400? -Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 6:46 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John and Bob, I agree. ?We have had an excellent experience with SPEC. ? WThey got stuff to us quickly and it has all held up very well. ?SPEC parts have been very reliable for us as well. ?It is unfortunate that another domestic supplier that was willing to help us is dropping out. Paul Ricco On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Major bummer - I've been using them for around 20 years with excellent results. Oh well. I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. :-( C ya,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage.? So one less supplier for racing parts._______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/logo_small_dppi.png] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_facebook.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_twitter.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_googleplus.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_linkedin.jpg] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13118 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Huovinen -----Original Message----- From: DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Aug 8, 2019 7:54 pm Subject: [Fot] Spit Aluminum Bellhousing <!-- #yiv0277660151 _filtered #yiv0277660151 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0277660151 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0277660151 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} #yiv0277660151 #yiv0277660151 p.yiv0277660151MsoNormal, #yiv0277660151 li.yiv0277660151MsoNormal, #yiv0277660151 div.yiv0277660151MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} #yiv0277660151 a:link, #yiv0277660151 span.yiv0277660151MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0277660151 a:visited, #yiv0277660151 span.yiv0277660151MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0277660151 span.yiv0277660151EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv0277660151 .yiv0277660151MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv0277660151 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv0277660151 div.yiv0277660151WordSection1 {} -->Hey membership, ? Anyone out there got an aluminum bellhousing for a Spitfire, I just got a deal on a tranny and now need the bell housing to make it a good spare. ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/maddhatt69 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13118 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm sure you know about the think cast ones, I had one and it didn't last at all.? If you would like a new part Canley Classics has them as they had them made a couple years ago, I believe. Good luck in your search,Bob T.'64 Spit GT? autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Aug 8, 2019 1:54 pm Subject: [Fot] Spit Aluminum Bellhousing <!-- #yiv6571090850 _filtered #yiv6571090850 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6571090850 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6571090850 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} #yiv6571090850 #yiv6571090850 p.yiv6571090850MsoNormal, #yiv6571090850 li.yiv6571090850MsoNormal, #yiv6571090850 div.yiv6571090850MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} #yiv6571090850 a:link, #yiv6571090850 span.yiv6571090850MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv6571090850 a:visited, #yiv6571090850 span.yiv6571090850MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv6571090850 span.yiv6571090850EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv6571090850 .yiv6571090850MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv6571090850 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv6571090850 div.yiv6571090850WordSection1 {} -->Hey membership, ? Anyone out there got an aluminum bellhousing for a Spitfire, I just got a deal on a tranny and now need the bell housing to make it a good spare. ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2784 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap. Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however. I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design. 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I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sun Aug 11 06:14:39 2019 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. Glen with 1 "n". -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar via Fot To: Glenn Franco Cc: FOT list Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem?? Thanks On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 06:43:05 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 08:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D transmissions. Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed soon enough. The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. Glenn with 2 n's On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is > more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? > Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 11 06:47:24 2019 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <975123266.4048654.1565527644240@mail.yahoo.com> I have rebuilt many TR-3B through TR-6 gear boxes, both with and without overdrive.? The failure mode you mention is common, where the lay gear grinds into the rear thrust washer, and sometimes into the housing.? However, I have never had trouble removing the lay gear.? Once I remove the thrust washer, the lay gear lifts right out.? Am I missing something?? Are you working on a Spitfire or GT-6 gearbox? Once again, I pull the rear thrust washer out, generally with the transmission oriented with the bell housing down.? Then, with the gearbox oriented in the upright position, I lift up the end of the lay gear where I have just removed the thrust washer.? Once it clears the boss at the rear of the housing, the lay gear comes right out. Not sure this is any help, but that's my experience. Jack Wheeler On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 3:52:18 PM EDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sun Aug 11 08:07:17 2019 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. References: <2038555896.2835652.1565532437132.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2038555896.2835652.1565532437132@mail.yahoo.com> Jack the late laygears use a pressed-in "shell" bearing.They can be fitted to the early circlip gears and aren't an issue but the pressed-only have a tendency to walk out and lathe (used as a verb) into the thrust washer so it can't be removed, so nor can the gear. The wear issue is exacerbated by all of the metal crumbs generated above the area by 1st/reverse gear graunching. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wheeler via Fot To: Glenn Franco Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:47 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I have rebuilt many TR-3B through TR-6 gear boxes, both with and without overdrive.? The failure mode you mention is common, where the lay gear grinds into the rear thrust washer, and sometimes into the housing.? However, I have never had trouble removing the lay gear.? Once I remove the thrust washer, the lay gear lifts right out.? Am I missing something?? Are you working on a Spitfire or GT-6 gearbox? Once again, I pull the rear thrust washer out, generally with the transmission oriented with the bell housing down.? Then, with the gearbox oriented in the upright position, I lift up the end of the lay gear where I have just removed the thrust washer.? Once it clears the boss at the rear of the housing, the lay gear comes right out. Not sure this is any help, but that's my experience. Jack Wheeler On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 3:52:18 PM EDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 10:24:38 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:24:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes exactly right. By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. So far I have not. Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered roller bearing. I would be interested in giving it a try. Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: > Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. > It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings > obviously but too common with the pressed only. > I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway. > In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's > exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by > the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust > washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case. > I share your pain... > Glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Franco > To: fubog1 > Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D > transmissions. > Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose > needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have > been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. > The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the > shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the > smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the > remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed > soon enough. > The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is > getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to > remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer > needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. > When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost > impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. > Glenn with 2 n's > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is > more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? > Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britcars at bellsouth.net Sun Aug 11 10:45:45 2019 From: britcars at bellsouth.net (barry rosenberg) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I would not expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay gear in your lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long bronze oil-lite bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with no problems. Also mich the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs are .0025" too small! Barry On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Yes exactly right.By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case.So far I have not. Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it.I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered roller bearing.?I would be interested in giving it a try.Glenn ? On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens.It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings obviously but too common with the pressed only.I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway.In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case.I share your pain...Glen -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Franco To: fubog1 Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D transmissions.Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed soon enough.The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands.Glenn with 2 n's On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. Glen with 1 "n". -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar via Fot To: Glenn Franco Cc: FOT list Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem?? Thanks On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Sun Aug 11 11:26:23 2019 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:26:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. Greg Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2019, at 11:45 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot wrote: > > Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I would not expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay gear in your lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long bronze oil-lite bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with no problems. Also mich the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs are .0025" too small! > > Barry > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: > > > Yes exactly right. > By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. > So far I have not. > Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. > I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered roller bearing. I would be interested in giving it a try. > Glenn > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: > Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. > It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings obviously but too common with the pressed only. > I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway. > In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case. > I share your pain... > Glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Franco > To: fubog1 > Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D transmissions. > Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. > The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed soon enough. > The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. > When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. > Glenn with 2 n's > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake To: barry rosenberg Cc: fubog1 ; FOT list ; Glenn Franco Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 12:55:57 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:55:57 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well that's pretty cool! I'm not sure those steel plates are big enough though? Did it screw up the case since it looks like your pulling from somewhere midway on the laygear. Thanks Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Blake wrote: > I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust > clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. > > Greg > [image: image1.jpeg] > [image: image2.jpeg] > [image: image3.jpeg] > [image: image4.jpeg] > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Aug 11, 2019, at 11:45 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot > wrote: > > Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I would not > expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay gear in your > lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long bronze oil-lite > bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with no problems. Also mich > the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs are .0025" too small! > > Barry > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes exactly right. > By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with > a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. > So far I have not. > Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the > laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to > grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. > I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered > roller bearing. I would be interested in giving it a try. > Glenn > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: > > Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. > It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings > obviously but too common with the pressed only. > I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway. > In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's > exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by > the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust > washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case. > I share your pain... > Glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Franco > To: fubog1 > Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D > transmissions. > Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose > needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have > been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. > The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the > shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the > smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the > remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed > soon enough. > The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is > getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to > remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer > needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. > When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost > impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. > Glenn with 2 n's > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is > more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? > Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just cut off through the two vent opening are on the sides. I will pay the shiipping. On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 14:13:17 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:13:17 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok, thanks. On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 3:02 PM John Styduhar wrote: > Don't scrap your TR gearbox case if damaged. The bellhousing can be used > for a toyota 5-speed conversion. Just cut off through the two vent opening > are on the sides. I will pay the shiipping. > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > >> Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I >> do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or >> maybe 2. >> I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing >> next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the >> thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that >> ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes >> get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is >> sent to scrap. >> Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear >> out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so >> you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted >> to a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it >> out. Didn't end well however. >> I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on >> that end which would make more sense than the original design. >> Please advise >> Thanks in advance >> Glenn >> TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sun Aug 11 14:46:38 2019 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:46:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20952002-f312-2d68-b0f8-1d3941f4106a@verizon.net> Now that's impressive; simple, cheap, and it works. Good job. Cheers, Bill On 8/11/2019 1:26 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 > exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. > > Greg > image1.jpeg > image2.jpeg > image3.jpeg > image4.jpeg > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Aug 11, 2019, at 11:45 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot > > wrote: > >> Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I >> would not expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay >> gear in your lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long >> bronze oil-lite bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with >> no problems. Also mich the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs >> are .0025" too small! >> >> Barry >> >> On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot >> > wrote: >> >> >> Yes exactly right. >> By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up >> with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. >> So far I have not. >> Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the >> laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort >> to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. >> I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a >> tapered roller bearing.?I would be interested in giving it a try. >> Glenn >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 > > wrote: >> >> Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. >> It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell >> bearings obviously but too common with the pressed only. >> I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove >> anyway. >> In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & >> bearing, it's exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal >> generated directly above by the graunching going into 1st & >> reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust washer and eats up the >> backside of the washer & the case. >> I share your pain... >> Glen >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Glenn Franco > > >> To: fubog1 > >> Cc: John Styduhar > >; FOT list > > >> Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing >> failures. >> >> Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D >> transmissions. >> Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not >> the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The >> last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 >> Transmissions. >> The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks >> along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer >> that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture >> into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and >> then the case if not removed soon enough. >> The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the >> problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As >> I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is >> removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the >> laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. >> When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer >> its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case >> on your hands. >> Glenn with 2 n's >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: >> >> That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. >> >> Glen with 1 "n". >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Styduhar via Fot >> To: Glenn Franco >> Cc: FOT list >> Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing >> failures. >> >> Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you >> described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is >> it a general problem?? Thanks >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot >> wrote: >> >> Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this >> afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the >> owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2. >> I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the >> layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried >> to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have >> tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground >> its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I >> sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans >> case with the laygear is sent to scrap. >> Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease >> the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small >> thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear >> enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " >> Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the >> laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however. >> I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered >> roller bearing on that end which would make more sense >> than the original design. >> Please advise >> Thanks in advance >> Glenn >> TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 >> being restored >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > >http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625).? Any sources for lug nuts that may have these?? Thanks in advance. Joe DownerCharlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625). Any sources for lug nuts that may have these? Thanks in advance. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5603 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Turned out they were a Japanese knockoff and the lug hole was smaller. The guy at American gave me a bag of lugnuts anyway (16, full set ? free!) and pointed me to a nearby machine shop who trimmed them down to fit. Later I got new rear axles that came with bigger/longer lugs. Took 8 of those same nuts, had a local machine shop drill them out all the way through and re-thread them. --Rocky Entriken From: Paul MacDonald via Fot Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:03 AM To: 'PAUL MACDONALD' ; 'Joe Henry' Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Lug Nuts https://tinyurl.com/y3ur8l7p From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PAUL MACDONALD via Fot Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 11:01 AM To: fot at autox.team.net; Joe Henry Subject: Re: [Fot] Lug Nuts revolution wheel | eBay revolution wheel | eBay Find great deals on eBay for revolution wheel. Shop with confidence. On Monday, August 12, 2019, 10:35:01 a.m. EDT, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: Good Morning! I am having some issue finding lug nuts. They are for a Revolution wheel and a 7/16 stud. My problem has been shank diameter. The lug nut length is 2" overall with a shank length of 1 3/8 (1.375). The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625). Any sources for lug nuts that may have these? Thanks in advance. 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I totally agree, the rear thrust washer can be a problem. but a hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the most recalcitrant of these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then be used to cut thru the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the 1970?s we mounted a die grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used a grinding tool in that to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then regrind the laygear to accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear laygear bearing has started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and conventional lathe tooling wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get thru the hard layer. Over the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the idea never really changed. Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if you leave a ?groove? or dent in the laygear housing, a replacement shell type bearing will never last. You usually can?t perform this repair with the later open cage bearings as the laygear finish and hardness wont be good enough. Its perfectly OK for a LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic below I also include a pic of a gearbox case bored out to accept a taper roller at 1st gear end. Have done it to both ends with shim adjustment at front. Done plenty of these [A hand holding a piece of metal Description automatically generated] [A picture containing ground, outdoor, transport Description automatically generated] From: Fot On Behalf Of fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com; britcars at bellsouth.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net; brakey6666 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > To: barry rosenberg > Cc: fubog1 >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18948 bytes Desc: image004.jpg URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 17:45:50 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:45:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Very interesting! Do you have a photo of the bearing install and do you use it with the bronze bush you installed in the Laygear? Thanks Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:53 PM Terry O?Beirne wrote: > In all my years of having a business fixing hundreds of these boxes , I > don?t think I ever had to resort to a pulling device like shown > > > > > > > > > > > * I really am gob-smacked at what some of you guys are doing to these > boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer can be a problem. but a > hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the most recalcitrant of > these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then be used to cut thru > the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the 1970?s we mounted a die > grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used a grinding tool in that > to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then regrind the laygear to > accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear laygear bearing has > started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and conventional lathe tooling > wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get thru the hard layer. Over > the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the idea never really changed. > Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if you leave a ?groove? or dent > in the laygear housing, a replacement shell type bearing will never last. > You usually can?t perform this repair with the later open cage bearings as > the laygear finish and hardness wont be good enough. Its perfectly OK for a > LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic below I also include a pic of a > gearbox case bored out to accept a taper roller at 1st gear end. Have done > it to both ends with shim adjustment at front. Done plenty of these > [image: A hand holding a piece of metal Description automatically > generated] [image: A picture containing ground, outdoor, transport > Description automatically generated] From: Fot > > On Behalf Of > fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > ; britcars at bellsouth.net > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; brakey6666 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and > Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! > Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > > To: barry rosenberg > > Cc: fubog1 > >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] > Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last > year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all > thread rod. Worked like a champ. * > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I use a common wheel bearing. part number shown on pic of case. I?ll dig thru my photo file. Same bearing/method used at input shaft end except I have a shim plate there to adjust end float/preload Without wanting to sound rude, this is not a conversion for the average ?back-yarder?. It requires considerable engineering skill and accurate machining, eg, the big holes bored in the case must be perfectly aligned and bore right thru from 1 end of case to the other. I gave up doing them for other people as they just take too long and people did not want to pay the hourly rate From: Glenn Franco Sent: 12 August 2019 09:46 To: Terry O?Beirne Cc: fubog1 ; gblake58tr3 at icloud.com; britcars at bellsouth.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Very interesting! Do you have a photo of the bearing install and do you use it with the bronze bush you installed in the Laygear? Thanks Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:53 PM Terry O?Beirne > wrote: In all my years of having a business fixing hundreds of these boxes , I don?t think I ever had to resort to a pulling device like shown I really am gob-smacked at what some of you guys are doing to these boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer can be a problem. but a hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the most recalcitrant of these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then be used to cut thru the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the 1970?s we mounted a die grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used a grinding tool in that to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then regrind the laygear to accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear laygear bearing has started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and conventional lathe tooling wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get thru the hard layer. Over the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the idea never really changed. Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if you leave a ?groove? or dent in the laygear housing, a replacement shell type bearing will never last. You usually can?t perform this repair with the later open cage bearings as the laygear finish and hardness wont be good enough. Its perfectly OK for a LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic below I also include a pic of a gearbox case bored out to accept a taper roller at 1st gear end. Have done it to both ends with shim adjustment at front. Done plenty of these [A hand holding a piece of metal Description automatically generated] [A picture containing ground, outdoor, transport Description automatically generated] From: Fot > On Behalf Of fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com; britcars at bellsouth.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net; brakey6666 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > To: barry rosenberg > Cc: fubog1 >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18948 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Mon Aug 12 05:39:13 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 07:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ok, thanks for the clarification. On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Terry O?Beirne wrote: > the brass bush is just 1 way of fixing the problem being discussed. That > bush can either be fixed like in the pic, or floating, depending on the > intended use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * for the taper roller conversion, I make up a ?stub axle? that presses > into the laygear and then the bearing sits on that. I use a common wheel > bearing. part number shown on pic of case. I?ll dig thru my photo file. > Same bearing/method used at input shaft end except I have a shim plate > there to adjust end float/preload Without wanting to sound rude, this is > not a conversion for the average ?back-yarder?. It requires considerable > engineering skill and accurate machining, eg, the big holes bored in the > case must be perfectly aligned and bore right thru from 1 end of case to > the other. I gave up doing them for other people as they just take too > long and people did not want to pay the hourly rate From: Glenn > Franco > Sent: 12 August 2019 > 09:46 To: Terry O?Beirne > Cc: fubog1 >; > gblake58tr3 at icloud.com ; britcars at bellsouth.net > ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: > Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Very > interesting! Do you have a photo of the bearing install and do you use it > with the bronze bush you installed in the Laygear? Thanks Glenn On Sun, > Aug 11, 2019 at 5:53 PM Terry O?Beirne > wrote: In all my years of having a business > fixing hundreds of these boxes , I don?t think I ever had to resort to a > pulling device like shown I really am gob-smacked at what some of you > guys are doing to these boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer > can be a problem. but a hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the > most recalcitrant of these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then > be used to cut thru the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the > 1970?s we mounted a die grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used > a grinding tool in that to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then > regrind the laygear to accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear > laygear bearing has started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and > conventional lathe tooling wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get > thru the hard layer. Over the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the > idea never really changed. Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if > you leave a ?groove? or dent in the laygear housing, a replacement shell > type bearing will never last. You usually can?t perform this repair with > the later open cage bearings as the laygear finish and hardness wont be > good enough. Its perfectly OK for a LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic > below I also include a pic of a gearbox case bored out to accept a taper > roller at 1st gear end. Have done it to both ends with shim adjustment at > front. Done plenty of these [image: A hand holding a piece of metal > Description automatically generated] [image: A picture containing ground, > outdoor, transport Description automatically generated] From: > Fot > On Behalf Of > fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > ; britcars at bellsouth.net > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; brakey6666 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and > Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! > Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > > To: barry rosenberg > > Cc: fubog1 > >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] > Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last > year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all > thread rod. Worked like a champ. * > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The shed is in an old overgrown industrial complex.? Very rustic.? There is an unbelievable stack of large timbers that someone would love to have, but I expect they will be destroyed in the demolition. ???? The first to get here can have them. I will give directions but probably won?t be able to meet you there. ???? There is also a stripped early Austin Healey with rusting engine and gearbox on the property.? It?s been sitting in the mud for many years.? Not much left but free as well.? I have a few photos. ???? I hate to see these get destroyed. ???? Pls call me after 9AM if you can get here soon.? Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 Subject: FREE TR6 frames in Suffolk, VA From: "Henry Giffin" Date: 8/13/19, 11:46 PM From jsukey at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 07:39:22 2019 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:39:22 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Toyota 4 pot caliper stuff for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the interest. Calipers and XP10 pads are sold. XP8 pads are still available. Jason On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:49 PM Jason Sukey wrote: > Hi all, > I converted my GT6 back to Girling calipers, have some Toyota 4 pot > calipers and pads I'd like to turn into $. These are the same calipers > that also fit the TR's. > > -Pair of calipers, need rebuilt, includes 2 rebuild kits : $75 shipped > within the USA > > - Set of Carbotech XP8 (PN: CT137-XP8) brake pads, brand new in box: $100 > shipped in the USA > > - Set of Carbotech XP10 (PN: CT137-XP10) brake pads. "used" but not even > scrubbed in. Paint hasn't been cooked off the backing plate. All 4 pads > measure between .605" and .610" overall thickness (identical to the new in > box set) : $75 shipped in the USA > > Please send any replies to jsukey at gmail.com > > Thanks, > Jason Sukey > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hankgiffin at cox.net Wed Aug 14 08:01:29 2019 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:01:29 -0400 Subject: [Fot] SPOKEN FOR - FREE TR6 frames in Suffolk, VA Message-ID: <003d01d552a8$c6055800$52100800$@cox.net> I received a call this AM and he will take both frames to be picked up this week. Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 From: Henry Giffin Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 1:47 AM To: 'Fot' Cc: 'Henry Giffin' Subject: FREE TR6 frames in Suffolk, VA A friend recently sold a large metal shed with two TR6 rolling frames in it in Suffolk, VA. Both on rims and tires, one with a stripped body with some rust. The one with the body has low tires. I expect both will roll with air to the tires. No engines or gearboxes. No titles. I have a few photos. He sold the property and the shed complex is being demolished at an unknown date, supposedly relatively soon. The frames are free. I was there yesterday to pick up a Devin body sitting on an early TR frame. More info to follow on that. The shed is in an old overgrown industrial complex. Very rustic. There is an unbelievable stack of large timbers that someone would love to have, but I expect they will be destroyed in the demolition. The first to get here can have them. I will give directions but probably won't be able to meet you there. There is also a stripped early Austin Healey with rusting engine and gearbox on the property. It's been sitting in the mud for many years. Not much left but free as well. I have a few photos. I hate to see these get destroyed. Pls call me after 9AM if you can get here soon. Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wakeman) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:50:32 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <662a1a62-edb6-a01b-8517-6b68750adce6@gmail.com> On 8/14/19 11:44 AM, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff > lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 > rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have > heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol > I'm running Redline Redline 75W90 in my limited slip TeriAnn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 13:09:12 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:15:22 2019 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:15:22 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Running Redline MT-90 GL-4 in the Spitfire with a Detroit Locker. Is that good? The 43 year old stuff I poured out of it had the consistency of honey... Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. > > As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsukey at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:17:34 2019 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:17:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was one who had unusual bearing wear with the redline shockproof. I've since started using the Redline 75w110 (gl5) in Spitfire/GT6 differentials using a Quaife. So far, so good! Jason Sukey On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube > you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was > using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. > Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 13:19:59 2019 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1557544585.3861336.1565810399317@mail.yahoo.com> +1 to what Bob said. ? Running Mobil 1 75w140 in my TR4 with a quaife. ?We found this to handle the heat better than the Xw90 weight variety. Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 3:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tjwakeman at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:28:57 2019 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:28:57 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <873a5fb9-ea8e-e471-c2c2-b52480778822@gmail.com> On 8/14/19 12:15 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > Running Redline MT-90 GL-4 in the Spitfire with a Detroit Locker. I talked with a Redline rep. MT-90 is a GL-4 gearbox lube they recommend for the earlier gearboxes. He recommended Redline 75W90 for diffs. Check the Redline web site. TeriAnn > > Is that good? > > The 43 year old stuff I poured out of it had the consistency of honey... > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot > wrote: > >> Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The >> only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running >> the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka >> "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will >> eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 >> should not be a problem. >> >> As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been >> mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher >> numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot >> and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. >> >> Regards, >> Bob Lang >> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot >> > wrote: >> >> >> To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff >> lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 >> rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have >> heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > >http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tjwakeman at gmail.com > > -- Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada 2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write *Because the world beckons and life waits for no one* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Wed Aug 14 13:40:27 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:40:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We have been running Redline Lightweight ShockProof in ours with a Detroit Locker. We change it every 5th event and it comes out looking exactly the same as the new stuff that we are putting in. WNo signs that it has been burnt, beat-up or that it has dissolved anything that it should not have. So far, so good. Paul > On Aug 14, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > Running Redline MT-90 GL-4 in the Spitfire with a Detroit Locker. > > Is that good? > > The 43 year old stuff I poured out of it had the consistency of honey... > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot > wrote: > >> Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. >> >> As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. >> >> Regards, >> Bob Lang >> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Wed Aug 14 14:06:11 2019 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to all for your responses.? I appreciate it!-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lang To: fot ; kkjjk Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at artwithcars.com Wed Aug 14 14:11:53 2019 From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:11:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <466CEC3E-4C2C-4F91-84FE-96FFD3A05A3F@artwithcars.com> It?s a good idea to use a different color lube in the gearbox from the diff. That way you can see what?s leakin? ~Steve > On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:06 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > > Thanks to all for your responses. I appreciate it!-- Jay > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Lang > To: fot ; kkjjk > Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 3:09 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube > > Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. > > As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. 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URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Thu Aug 15 04:11:41 2019 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:11:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <466CEC3E-4C2C-4F91-84FE-96FFD3A05A3F@artwithcars.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> <466CEC3E-4C2C-4F91-84FE-96FFD3A05A3F@artwithcars.com> Message-ID: <1500848192.513357011.1565863901867.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> In 17 years racing I had a share of (limited slip) differential problems of course, but I couldn't blame the oil. I used some blands and in the end I decided for Castrol Syntrax Limited Slip 75W-140 for Salisbury type limited slip devices because this oil promises to cause less friction. It is recommended for BMW LS diffs and NissanGTR. When it is good enough for them, it must be good enough for our Triumphs. Although this oil is to GL5 specification, I wonder if this is a reason not to use it. GL5 and GL4 oils have the same sort of additives, only GL5 has the 'bad' additives in a higher concentration than GL4. And also, the salisbury (quaife) limited slip parts are all steel I believe? Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: kkjjk at aol.com Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Woensdag 14 augustus 2019 22:11:53 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Diff lube It?s a good idea to use a different color lube in the gearbox from the diff. That way you can see what?s leakin? ~Steve On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:06 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: Thanks t o all for your responses. I appreciate it!-- Jay BQ_BEGIN -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lang < [ mailto:robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com | robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ] > To: fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] >; kkjjk < [ mailto:kkjjk at aol.com | kkjjk at aol.com ] > Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards, Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ] BQ_END BQ_BEGIN _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve at artwithcars.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve at artwithcars.com ] BQ_END _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Aug 15 04:21:54 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:21:54 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars. I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil. Trouble free stuff. I use it also on the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. Cheers Chris Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Aug 15 05:09:48 2019 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 06:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> Any Redline MT or MTL fluid is designed for transmissions and is lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials. I had been using MTL in my racing diff for 7 years without a problem. This was with a gear set that likely had 50,000+ street miles on them so were well broken in. last year when I built a new diff with a new gear set, things did not go well. I used MTL and destroyed the gears in about 20 laps. The gears actually melted. The only conclusion I could draw was that I did not have the EP additive package required for hypoid gears during the critical break in period for the new gears. I now use the redline shock proof which does have the EP additives. Works like a champ. I have a welded diff. Greg Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote: > > I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars. > I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil. > Trouble free stuff. > I use it also on the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. > > Cheers > Chris > > > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 > An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com > Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Aug 15 07:20:46 2019 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1854942756.4089684.1565875246386@mail.yahoo.com> lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials.? This has always been my biggest concern, but I don't do LSDs... (well except for maybe a couple hits back in the early 70s...)Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2019 7:12 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube Any Redline MT or MTL fluid is designed for transmissions and is lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials.? I had been using MTL in my racing diff for 7 years without a problem. This was with a gear set that likely had 50,000+ street miles on them so were well broken in.? last year when I built a new diff with a new gear set, things did not go well. I used MTL and destroyed the gears in about 20 laps. The gears actually melted. The only conclusion I could draw was that I did not have the EP additive package required for hypoid gears during the critical break in period for the new gears.? I now use the redline shock proof which does have the EP additives. Works like a champ. ?I have a welded diff.? Greg Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote: #yiv7709570345 #yiv7709570345 -- _filtered #yiv7709570345 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7709570345 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv7709570345 #yiv7709570345 p.yiv7709570345MsoNormal, #yiv7709570345 li.yiv7709570345MsoNormal, #yiv7709570345 div.yiv7709570345MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7709570345 a:link, #yiv7709570345 span.yiv7709570345MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7709570345 a:visited, #yiv7709570345 span.yiv7709570345MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7709570345 p.yiv7709570345msonormal0, #yiv7709570345 li.yiv7709570345msonormal0, #yiv7709570345 div.yiv7709570345msonormal0 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7709570345 span.yiv7709570345E-MailFormatvorlage18 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv7709570345 .yiv7709570345MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv7709570345 {margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 2.0cm 70.85pt;} #yiv7709570345 div.yiv7709570345WordSection1 {} #yiv7709570345 I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars.I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil.Trouble free stuff.I use it also on ?the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. ?CheersChris ? ?Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube ?To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Aug 15 15:06:42 2019 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:06:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1854942756.4089684.1565875246386@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> <1854942756.4089684.1565875246386@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4384236D-4114-4850-9422-E0D3752B8D7D@icloud.com> It?s the sliding of the hypoid gears across each other along with the normal surface meshing of gears that requires the EP package. As I understand limited slips, certain types require other friction additives to work properly, but I have not ever paid attention to that since I just weld my carriers. No slipping happening in there. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2019, at 8:20 AM, fubog1 wrote: > > > lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials. > This has always been my biggest concern, but I don't do LSDs... (well except for maybe a couple hits back in the early 70s...) > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Blake via Fot > To: Fot > Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2019 7:12 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube > > Any Redline MT or MTL fluid is designed for transmissions and is lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials. > > I had been using MTL in my racing diff for 7 years without a problem. This was with a gear set that likely had 50,000+ street miles on them so were well broken in. > > last year when I built a new diff with a new gear set, things did not go well. I used MTL and destroyed the gears in about 20 laps. The gears actually melted. The only conclusion I could draw was that I did not have the EP additive package required for hypoid gears during the critical break in period for the new gears. > > I now use the redline shock proof which does have the EP additives. Works like a champ. I have a welded diff. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote: >> > > I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars. > I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil. > Trouble free stuff. > I use it also on the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. > > Cheers > Chris > > > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 > An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com > Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hopefully this will continue for the race. > Cheers, > Dave H. > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From billdentin at aol.com Fri Aug 16 17:07:28 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 23:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Fri Aug 16 17:07:28 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 23:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 17 06:10:30 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna In-Reply-To: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096558994.429475.1566043830828@mail.yahoo.com> Hey - that sort of looks like my paddock spot at Summit Point in 2015. Minus the broken wheel stud at the end of the Kastner Cup race. I now have a spare oil cooler in the spares (and spare hubs, too). c ya,Bob Lang On Friday, August 16, 2019, 7:11:20 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. 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URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 17 06:10:30 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna In-Reply-To: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096558994.429475.1566043830828@mail.yahoo.com> Hey - that sort of looks like my paddock spot at Summit Point in 2015. Minus the broken wheel stud at the end of the Kastner Cup race. I now have a spare oil cooler in the spares (and spare hubs, too). c ya,Bob Lang On Friday, August 16, 2019, 7:11:20 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 07:10:14 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:10:14 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) > > - Tony > On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > > ? > It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there > until 1 week prior to event. > Charly Mitchel > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tony Drews via Fot > *To:* fot at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list > > I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... > > - Tony D > On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG > event entry list. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Kathy Swinford > Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list > To: John Styduhar > > > We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. > Thanks > > Kathy Swinford > SVRA > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > > Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pamraces1 at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 07:43:32 2019 From: pamraces1 at gmail.com (Pamela Shatraw) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 06:43:32 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: John The map has been updated and is in review- The updated map reflects the Triumph paddock. On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 6:10 AM John Styduhar wrote: > More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in > September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no > entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers > or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars > and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > >> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >> >> - Tony >> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >> >> ? >> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there >> until 1 week prior to event. >> Charly Mitchel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >> >> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >> >> - Tony D >> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >> event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kathy Swinford >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Sat Aug 17 11:58:09 2019 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 11:58:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] This oil cooler failure can be seen from space Message-ID: <005401d55525$589183a0$09b48ae0$@comcast.net> This pic was taken from a satellite over Hastings, NE. I blew an oil cooler but didn't know it until I got to the grid. The corner workers were pissed ! They reminded me of it for a few years afterward. Just follow the oil dry trail. -----Original Message----- From: Dan Forgey Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:58 AM To: Jim Grey Subject: Oil Cooler Mess Race But can it be seen from outer space???? ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "triumph fot" < fot at autox.team.net> To: "triumph fot" < Fot at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 4:40:30 PM Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. 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URL: From billdentin at aol.com Sun Aug 18 11:50:42 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 17:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kas_Kastner=E2=80=99s_Sebring_TR4_=40_Goodwood?= In-Reply-To: <3EBCD7F8-E4AA-4BEA-8D5B-24935E14B903@gmail.com> References: <3EBCD7F8-E4AA-4BEA-8D5B-24935E14B903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1025441496.6947841.1566150642193@mail.yahoo.com> WOOT!? WOOT! Bill Dentinger PS...I am not really sure what "WOOT! WOOT!" means, but my grand children use it to show approval...so it must be good. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander via Fot To: fot Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2019 10:30 am Subject: [Fot] Kas Kastner?s Sebring TR4 @ Goodwood FOT, Congratulations to Keith Files and TR Enterprises on the acceptance to enter the Goodwood Revival in September. Son Josh Files to drive. If any of you are attending, this will be a great year to be there. (If there is, I would like to know. Thanks). The next important appearance of Sebring #38 will be at the Kastner Cup at Mid-Ohio next year.? SVRA?s Mid-Ohio June event. This TR4 and Keith Files won the Kastner Cup At Topeka, KS, before it was returned to England for total restoration to Kas Kastner?s original Sebring specifications. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keithfiles at btinternet.com Sun Aug 18 13:05:52 2019 From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 22:05:52 +0300 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kas_Kastner=E2=80=99s_Sebring_TR4_=40_Goodwood?= In-Reply-To: <1025441496.6947841.1566150642193@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3EBCD7F8-E4AA-4BEA-8D5B-24935E14B903@gmail.com> <1025441496.6947841.1566150642193@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <05D47F6B-5CAE-400D-8C76-92A0CE182305@btinternet.com> how cool, thanks Bill. I am pretty sure the some in-car footage will be posted? personally I am saving myself for the Saturday evening Ball which, i am sure, will be on a par with a Wisconsin supper club.. > On 18 Aug 2019, at 20:50, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: > > WOOT! WOOT! > > Bill Dentinger > > PS...I am not really sure what "WOOT! WOOT!" means, but my grand children use it to show approval...so it must be good. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Alexander via Fot > To: fot > Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2019 10:30 am > Subject: [Fot] Kas Kastner?s Sebring TR4 @ Goodwood > > FOT, > > Congratulations to Keith Files and TR Enterprises on the acceptance to enter the Goodwood Revival in September. > > Son Josh Files to drive. > > If any of you are attending, this will be a great year to be there. > > (If there is, I would like to know. Thanks). > > The next important appearance of Sebring #38 will be at the Kastner Cup at Mid-Ohio next year. SVRA?s Mid-Ohio June event. > > This TR4 and Keith Files won the Kastner Cup At Topeka, KS, before it was returned to England for total restoration to Kas Kastner?s original Sebring specifications. > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles at btinternet.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 05:41:23 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:41:23 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their website. On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: > Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. I will check > back later to see if its updated then. > > Marty > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 06:13:38 2019 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 08:13:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is going to be fun. mike h On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their > website. > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: > >> Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. I will check >> back later to see if its updated then. >> >> Marty >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 06:14:26 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:14:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I was worried that the numbers wouldn't be there. This is great! Bob Kramer On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:14 AM Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is > going to be fun. > > mike h > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > >> Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their >> website. >> >> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: >> >>> Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. 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URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Aug 19 07:01:44 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:01:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I just checked my SVRA account and even though I have an email confirmation of my registration from last December, my account page does not show the registration under Upcoming Events. I have sent that info on to Kathy Swinford tp get cleared up. Bob Kramer On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in > September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no > entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers > or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars > and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > >> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >> >> - Tony >> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >> >> ? >> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there >> until 1 week prior to event. >> Charly Mitchel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >> >> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >> >> - Tony D >> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >> event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kathy Swinford >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Mon Aug 19 07:11:48 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:11:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: My account is also empty. All I have is a receipt from last November for payment of the registration. Good enough for me. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:03 AM Bob Kramer wrote: > I just checked my SVRA account and even though I have an email > confirmation of my registration from last December, my account page does > not show the registration under Upcoming Events. I have sent that info on > to Kathy Swinford tp get cleared up. > > Bob Kramer > > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > >> More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in >> September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no >> entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers >> or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars >> and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot >> wrote: >> >>> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >>> >>> - Tony >>> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be >>> there until 1 week prior to event. >>> Charly Mitchel >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >>> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >>> >>> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >>> >>> - Tony D >>> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >>> event entry list. >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Kathy Swinford >>> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >>> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >>> To: John Styduhar >>> >>> >>> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >>> Thanks >>> >>> Kathy Swinford >>> SVRA >>> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >>> >>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >>> >>> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage : >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have sent that info on >> to Kathy Swinford tp get cleared up. >> >> Bob Kramer >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM John Styduhar via Fot >> wrote: >> >>> More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in >>> September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no >>> entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers >>> or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars >>> and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >>>> >>>> - Tony >>>> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be >>>> there until 1 week prior to event. >>>> Charly Mitchel >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >>>> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >>>> >>>> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >>>> >>>> - Tony D >>>> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >>>> event entry list. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: Kathy Swinford >>>> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >>>> To: John Styduhar >>>> >>>> >>>> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Kathy Swinford >>>> SVRA >>>> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >>>> >>>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >>>> >>>> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in >>>> September. 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URL: From rick.parent at att.net Wed Aug 21 07:25:59 2019 From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <167040558.157025.1566393959847@mail.yahoo.com> Here is a list of all the Triumphs registered as of today. On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 08:16:44 AM EDT, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: I was worried that the numbers wouldn't be there. This is great! Bob Kramer On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:14 AM Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is going to be fun. mike h On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their website.?? On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. I will check back later to see if its updated then. 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This is great! > > Bob Kramer > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:14 AM Mike Harmuth via Fot > wrote: > > A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is > going to be fun. > > mike h > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > > Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their > website. > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: > > Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. 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Will motorhomes be allowed there as well? https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/WG-Program-2019-Traffic-Flow-Chart.pdf?? thanksmike h_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rick.parent at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Aug 23 08:54:46 2019 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:54:46 -0400 Subject: [Fot] VIR rebirth. Message-ID: <64842F5F44324210BA940C5BDB28E416@VlackTK121647> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwE84xIv6k&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3aLRIM7nAp6otTfUWimgnSCZYopdoNbf54Ak5LtqNobp1Sd8AMiZgpEdM Hope this link comes thru. VIR reconstruction beginning. Amazing what it has become. One of my favorite venues. 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Bill Dentinger? -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack via Fot To: FOT Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 7:55 am Subject: [Fot] VIR rebirth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwE84xIv6k&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3aLRIM7nAp6otTfUWimgnSCZYopdoNbf54Ak5LtqNobp1Sd8AMiZgpEdM?Hope this link comes thru. VIR reconstruction beginning. Amazing what it has become. One of my favorite venues.?JVV_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jfrymark at aol.com Fri Aug 23 16:00:27 2019 From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 17:00:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Message-ID: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. John Frymark ?Gee? T6 Sent from my iPad From jhasty at mhc-law.com Fri Aug 23 17:00:01 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 23:00:01 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: > > > Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. > John Frymark > ?Gee? T6 > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > From jfrymark at aol.com Fri Aug 23 17:08:36 2019 From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:08:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Aug 24 01:21:06 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 09:21:06 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From billdentin at aol.com Sat Aug 24 08:11:08 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy.? He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; fot at autox. team. net Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car?? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Sat Aug 24 09:16:41 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 10:16:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: > > Chris... > > If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. > > I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" > > If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. > > Bill Dentinger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > What for is a crew needed? > I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. > > Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot > Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 > An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > John, > Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. > > John > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: > >> > >> > >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. > >> John Frymark > >> ?Gee? 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URL: From billdentin at aol.com Sat Aug 24 09:30:12 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> Message-ID: <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> Paul... Emily is a fantastic Pit Bunny. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ricco To: Bill Dentinger ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 8:16 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness.? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy.? He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; fot at autox. team. net Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car?? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sat Aug 24 09:43:12 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 09:43:12 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Valve Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8/24/19 9:28 AM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > Hello Amici, > > Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm > running a Kastner A10a cam. > > I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding > the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory > alloy valve keepers. > > Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? > Boy, I am definitely rusty, away from the game for too long. Trying to remember if the early 1300 has the same valve springs as the late 1300 and TR6.? TriumphTune in England comes to mind as a source for springs, as I recall, I may even have a set of something gathering dust on a shelf somewhere in my basement. I'll have to remember to try and dig them out, get some measurements. mjb. From cmstenquist at gmail.com Sat Aug 24 10:08:24 2019 From: cmstenquist at gmail.com (carl stenquist) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:08:24 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Marge is my Umbrella Girl, at least if I ever get a chance to race again. On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:30 AM Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: > Paul... > > Emily is a fantastic Pit Bunny. > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Ricco > To: Bill Dentinger ; Friends of Triumph < > fot at autox.team.net> > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 8:16 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I > always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: > > Chris... > > If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. > > I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no > friends" > > If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a > halter top. > > Bill Dentinger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; > fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > What for is a crew needed? > I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and > race them on my own. > > Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without > any help. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot > Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 > An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > John, > Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few > minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. > > John > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind > pulling me from the car? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that > I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. > >> John Frymark > >> ?Gee? T6 > >> Sent from my iPad > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cmstenquist at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Aug 24 10:11:30 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:11:30 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003301d55a96$98084250$c818c6f0$@gmail.com> To be honest, I leave my wife at home. Makes things easier. * No need for hotel * Working on the car as I like * Drinking as much beer I like * And many things more wifes doesn?t tolerate Cheers Chris Von: Fot Im Auftrag von carl stenquist via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 18:08 An: Bill Dentinger Cc: fot Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Marge is my Umbrella Girl, at least if I ever get a chance to race again. On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:30 AM Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: Paul... Emily is a fantastic Pit Bunny. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ricco > To: Bill Dentinger >; Friends of Triumph > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 8:16 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' >; 'John H. Hasty' >; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cmstenquist at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Sat Aug 24 10:57:18 2019 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:57:18 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Valve Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Brad, I just ordered a set directly from Isky yesterday, they had them in stock. I'm running an APT BK-74 cam. David, at APT, also has springs as well and BP Northwest has springs that are OK up to 0.500 lift. Isky PN wwe-005 outer sp-116 inner mike h On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > Hello Amici, > > Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm > running a Kastner A10a cam. > > I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the > correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve > keepers. > > Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? > > Thanks! > > > *Brad Eells* > *Chino CA* > *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* > *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* > *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sat Aug 24 11:10:31 2019 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:10:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Valve Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <963C8C06-12F2-43F0-9E87-00A0C144DFF0@gmail.com> And APT is just around the corner from you. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 24, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > Hi Brad, I just ordered a set directly from Isky yesterday, they had them in stock. I'm running an APT BK-74 cam. David, at APT, also has springs as well and BP Northwest has springs that are OK up to 0.500 lift. > > Isky PN > wwe-005 outer > sp-116 inner > > mike h > >> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >> Hello Amici, >> >> Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm running a Kastner A10a cam. >> >> I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve keepers. >> >> Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Sat Aug 24 11:11:54 2019 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Valve Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1786506316.680315.1566666714412@myemail.cox.net> Ted Schumacher sold me a set of ISKY dual springs back in 2000. Joe > On August 24, 2019 at 11:28 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > Hello Amici, > > Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm running a Kastner A10a cam. > > I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve keepers. > > Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? > > Thanks! > > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhasty at mhc-law.com Sat Aug 24 15:09:01 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 21:09:01 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com>, <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> Message-ID: UG...rock band, just give me my Martin D41 & a bluegrass mandolin, banjo & base Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot > wrote: Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' >; 'John H. Hasty' >; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Sat Aug 24 15:28:00 2019 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 17:28:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Valve Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I run the same Isky springs in my Gt6. Have net valve lift of 0.54? with 1.8:1 rockers. They are a lower spring pressure than some- about 65 seat and 240-250 open. I do find that they lose about 20 lb spring pressure after a few weekends, so set them high to begin with. Engine revs to about 7300. Not sure if you might want more spring pressure with more revs. Best to ask the cam designer! Scott Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > Hi Brad, I just ordered a set directly from Isky yesterday, they had them in stock. I'm running an APT BK-74 cam. David, at APT, also has springs as well and BP Northwest has springs that are OK up to 0.500 lift. > > Isky PN > wwe-005 outer > sp-116 inner > > mike h > >> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >> Hello Amici, >> >> Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm running a Kastner A10a cam. >> >> I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve keepers. >> >> Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"Engine number is KD7632E So my son?s gt6 is a mk2 w a mk1 engine in it. One thing I?ve never seen on a 6 cylinder engine is the word Special embossed on the block. It?s next to the drain plug on the right side. Anyone seen that before? " Thanks Mike H _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobeirne at skillpro.com.au Sun Aug 25 16:06:15 2019 From: tobeirne at skillpro.com.au (=?utf-8?B?VGVycnkgT+KAmUJlaXJuZQ==?=) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 22:06:15 +0000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 engine with "special" on the block? In-Reply-To: <65C994DF-A3BF-480F-B775-BA209CE511A4@me.com> References: <65C994DF-A3BF-480F-B775-BA209CE511A4@me.com> Message-ID: I have never seen a block marked ?special? in +40 years of working on them Yes, the bulges were for clearance and stiffening in the later 2500. Both TR and Saloon got this change , post 1972 I recall when they started using the O ring type head gasket The earlier 2500 blocks both TR5/TR6 and 2500 Saloon, were all flat sided. Ive seen post 72 2000 engines with flat sides, so maybe there was not a clean changeover date Terry From: Fot On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot Sent: 25 August 2019 23:50 To: Mike Harmuth Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 engine with "special" on the block? I?ve only seen those cast bulges on a late model GT6 engine - I assume it?s because the blocks were interchangeable with the TR6 in later years, but am not sure. Designed to clear the larger stroke of the TR6??? If this is the same as mine, the block is about 25 lb heavier than the earlier GT6 engine and I see no benefit to having it. However, mine does not say Special on it. On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot > wrote: This came up the other day on a Triumph forum. Stumping everyone there. Any ideas what SPECIAL on the casting means ? Not my car but interested in what it means. "Engine number is KD7632E So my son?s gt6 is a mk2 w a mk1 engine in it. One thing I?ve never seen on a 6 cylinder engine is the word Special embossed on the block. It?s next to the drain plug on the right side. Anyone seen that before? " Thanks Mike H _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Aug 26 20:07:13 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 21:07:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: After some difficult consideration I'm going to have to cancel my trip too. I'm shorthanded at work and just can't justify all the towing time while I can race here in TX . I'm going to regret this, I'm sure, but I have to do what makes sense. I see you all at Mid Ohio. 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URL: From billdentin at aol.com Mon Aug 26 21:06:59 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 03:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen References: <1466376415.3268194.1566875219666.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1466376415.3268194.1566875219666@mail.yahoo.com> Too bad, Bob...maybe next time. ?Watkins Glen is a Bucket?List track.Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Monday, August 26, 2019,?Bob Kramer via Fot??wrote: After some difficult consideration I'm going to have to cancel my trip too. I'm shorthanded at work and just can't justify all the towing time while I can race here in TX . I'm going to regret this, I'm sure, but I have to do what makes sense. I see you all at Mid Ohio.? Bob Kramer? On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 5:03 PM John Frymark via Fot wrote: Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. John Frymark ?Gee? T6 Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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T6 Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:17 AM Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: > Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where > to source them? > > Thanks, Mike Z > Triumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emanteno at comcast.net Tue Aug 27 03:18:25 2019 From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 04:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:17 PM Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: > Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where > to source them? > http://www.britishframeandengine.com/parts.html NFI. Irv Korey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 08:54:09 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 14:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> Hi - I hope you get some good offers, but the other responses I've seen so far are more likely to pan out: British Frame and Engine, APTFast, TSImported, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that has the situation, but I have several partial sets - .020 over, .050 over from broken engines. The .050 overs were from a TR6 running SCCA GT3 motor - the driver broke TWO pistons. In theory, you can get matching pistons for those sets from the manufacturers, but good luck finging a job number or other info. that you could use to get one or two pistons cut to complete a set. Especially, if the pistons are 20+ years old. If you wind up getting a custom set, my advice is to spend some extra $$$ and get 8, that way you have a couple of spares for the next engine which will be needed if/when you break a crank or chuck a rod. Also, seems to me you should be looking at building a GT6 engine - it is much more forgiving if you want to spin the engine fast, like more than 6000. Going for huge power is over-rated unless you just want to spend a lot of $$$. Just sayin'. Regards,Bob Lang On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:17:50 PM EDT, Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where to source them? Thanks, Mike ZTriumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Tue Aug 27 10:07:00 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 12:07:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good comments Bob. Tullius ended up running the smaller 6 in his Group 44 TR6 and dropping down a class. Very competitive. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > Hi - I hope you get some good offers, but the other responses I've seen so > far are more likely to pan out: British Frame and Engine, APTFast, > TSImported, etc. > > I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that has the situation, but I have > several partial sets - .020 over, .050 over from broken engines. The .050 > overs were from a TR6 running SCCA GT3 motor - the driver broke TWO > pistons. In theory, you can get matching pistons for those sets from the > manufacturers, but good luck finging a job number or other info. that you > could use to get one or two pistons cut to complete a set. Especially, if > the pistons are 20+ years old. > > If you wind up getting a custom set, my advice is to spend some extra $$$ > and get 8, that way you have a couple of spares for the next engine which > will be needed if/when you break a crank or chuck a rod. > > Also, seems to me you should be looking at building a GT6 engine - it is > much more forgiving if you want to spin the engine fast, like more than > 6000. Going for huge power is over-rated unless you just want to spend a > lot of $$$. > > Just sayin'. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:17:50 PM EDT, Michael Zbarsky via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where > to source them? > > Thanks, Mike Z > Triumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From trmarty at hotmail.com Tue Aug 27 14:25:24 2019 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:25:24 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Mixing tire sizes? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Sending the email below on behalf of Brian Schirano who cant get through to the list. Marty ________________________________ From: Brian Schirano Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:56 PM To: Marty Sukey Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes? Marty - do me a favor and send this off to FOT for me. Twice now I have gotten a message something to effect waiting for moderator, non member. Strange Thanks Brian ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Brian Schirano > Date: Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 3:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes? To: FOT > 2nd attempt, first one said I wasn't a member?? Hi Friends Getting ready for the last hurrah of the season for me at Watkins Glen. Question - what's the conventional wisdom within the FOT WRT mixing tires sizes on our road racers. Specifically, on my GT6, I am contemplating running 205s on the back and 185s on the front. I have run the 205s all around a number of times but the clearance is super tight up front. These are all Toyo R888s. Comments? Thanks Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 14:36:39 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Mixing tire sizes? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2112278883.2082101.1566938199189@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Brian - The size difference will change the handling a bit but you can "tune" the difference back to more neutral, if you want. My guess is that you'd introduce some understeer with the smaller contact patch in the front. What about running 185's all the way around? I guess the big thing for most of us is whether you want to carry more spare tires / wheels in case you have a problem over the course of a weekend. If all four corners are the same, a pair of spares should be all you need. If you have different sizes front and back you pretty much need four spare tire / wheels... not that I ever argued this endlessly with a certain car owner who just never seemed to get the "KISS" principle. WE spend over $5k on tires for one autox season back around '07. That was not smart (or simple). Personally, I like having the option to switch back to front or to swap in another pair of tires at one end or the other to fix handling issues. My tuppence. c ya,Bob Lang On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 4:25:48 PM EDT, marty via Fot wrote: Sending the email below on behalf of Brian Schirano who cant get through to the list. Marty From: Brian Schirano Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:56 PM To: Marty Sukey Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes??Marty - do me a favor and send this off to FOT for me. Twice now I have gotten a message something to effect waiting for moderator, non member. StrangeThanksBrian ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Brian Schirano Date: Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 3:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes? To: FOT 2nd attempt, first one said I wasn't a member??? Hi Friends Getting ready for the last hurrah of the season for me at Watkins Glen.? Question - what's the conventional wisdom within the FOT WRT mixing tires sizes on our road racers. Specifically, on my GT6, I am contemplating running 205s on the back and 185s on the front. I have run the 205s all around a number of times but the clearance is super tight up front. These are all Toyo R888s. Comments? ThanksBrian _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com Fri Aug 23 12:45:21 2019 From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:45:21 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR8 Parts Request Message-ID: <7A484B0A781A9940931D66568758C25D23FE42CD@A0775-XPO1043-C.ad.allstate.com> To All - I am looking for the following parts for my 1980 TR8 1) Rubber cover for the ball joints 2) Rubber cover for the front tie rods Any assistance would be appreciated. Larry Ross (412) 780-8495 - cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Aug 24 09:06:28 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 17:06:28 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401d55a8d$8241da20$86c58e60$@gmail.com> Hi Bill, as racing in Europe is organized in racing series, you meet the same people on every track. There is not lack of friends. I prefer to be able to do everything on my own, just in case nobody has time or is willing to help. But sometimes you need some help?..I play in a rock band and I can?t play every instrument?.so help is needed for a good sound. Cheers Chris Von: Bill Dentinger Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 16:11 An: tr4racing at googlemail.com; jfrymark at aol.com; jhasty at mhc-law.com; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' >; 'John H. Hasty' >; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue Aug 27 19:37:57 2019 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:37:57 -0400 Subject: [Fot] mixed tire sizes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: my experience with the GT6 is that the front tires do much more work than the rears in many respects. They wear faster, get hotter, need lower tire pressures to start to be equal at the end of the session with the rears. I don?t see any benefit to running wider tires just in the rear - this car is nose heavy and the front brakes do most of the work. I?d get the front fenders worked a bit to accommodate the larger tires - I found the same thing, that the R888Rs are slightly bigger than the old Toyos, and had to get a little clearance work done. I think you are short changing yourself with the 185s. You?ll find that the car will understeer more. Not that larger tires in the rear will hurt you, but smaller tires in the front will hurt. If you correct for it so the car is balanced, my guess is the car will be slower overall. Just my 2 cents. On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Thanks, will do a couple experiments. I'm bringing full sets of both sizes, and if I can find the room I have a set of Hoosier TDs, that would be three sets of tires, A bit overkill, just trying to use up the 205s Thanls B On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:39 PM Kas Kastner > wrote: This will work, but suggest reducing rear camber as the bigger tires (wider) will give more gip, thus more understeer. thsi is when the rear anti-roll bar comes into play. 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URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed Aug 28 11:06:59 2019 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:06:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR photos for archiving with FOT, who to contact? In-Reply-To: <1308212724.2342727.1567011320387@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1308212724.2342727.1567011320387.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1308212724.2342727.1567011320387@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <831C8B36-FA2F-4158-8400-6990B8949053@gmail.com> Glen, I am currently working on a project to archive Kas Kastner?s artifacts and pictures. I can accept the pictures and fold it into our project. The plan is to bring this stuff together with Mike Cook?s Archives, with VTR. We are working with Moss Motors as the facilities to display the materials at The Petersburg, VA facility. In addition, we plan to resurrect the now dormant British Sports Car Hall Of Fame. This all may be administered by the Coventry Foundation and only housed by Moss. 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We are working with Moss Motors as the facilities to display the materials at The Petersburg, VA facility. In addition, we plan to resurrect the now dormant British Sports Car Hall Of Fame. This all may be administered by the Coventry Foundation and only housed by Moss. Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: I got a note from an old friend who has some TR racing photos, some digital, that he wants to donate to the FOT.Who can I put him in touch with?ThanksGlen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander via Fot To: fubog1 Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Aug 28, 2019 10:08 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR photos for archiving with FOT, who to contact? Glen, I am currently working on a project to archive Kas Kastner?s artifacts and pictures. I can accept the pictures and fold it into our project. The plan is to bring this stuff together with Mike Cook?s Archives, with VTR. We are working with Moss Motors as the facilities to display the materials at The Petersburg, VA facility. In addition, we plan to resurrect the now dormant British Sports Car Hall Of Fame. This all may be administered by the Coventry Foundation and only housed by Moss. Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: I got a note from an old friend who has some TR racing photos, some digital, that he wants to donate to the FOT.Who can I put him in touch with?ThanksGlen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jack ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Rick via Mgs To: Eric Russell Cc: MGs Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 3:55:31 PM EDTSubject: Re: [Mgs] To do Great plan! I'm restoring a TR6, almost as I type. I first verified the lack of rust then restored the engine and verified that it ran great. Then the suspension and brakes. The car is now stripped bare and ready for paint. The fun part will begin next: reassembly.? On Aug 28, 2019 2:20 PM, Eric Russell via Mgs wrote: When I decided to re-restore my MGA the 'To Do' list had three entries. 1) repair body 2) replace chassis 3) rebuild drivetrain It is good to break it down into easy to complete tasks... 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I have not run the 888r?s but have to believe they are equivalent/ Have fun at the Glen (still bummed I have to cancel!) John Frymark From mzbarsky at yahoo.com Wed Aug 28 18:08:46 2019 From: mzbarsky at yahoo.com (Michael Zbarsky) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1455490662.669315.1567037326113@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks All for responses. I?ll follow up on some individually. Going with 2500 instead of 2000 as I have most of the 2500 components already. Block, head, crank etc. When I blow this one up I?ll build a 2000! Mike On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 9:07 AM, John Styduhar wrote: Good comments Bob.? Tullius ended up running the smaller 6 in his Group 44 TR6 and dropping down a class.? Very competitive. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Hi - I hope you get some good offers, but the other responses I've seen so far are more likely to pan out: British Frame and Engine, APTFast, TSImported, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that has the situation, but I have several partial sets - .020 over, .050 over from broken engines. The .050 overs were from a TR6 running SCCA GT3 motor - the driver broke TWO pistons. In theory, you can get matching pistons for those sets from the manufacturers, but good luck finging a job number or other info. that you could use to get one or two pistons cut to complete a set. Especially, if the pistons are 20+ years old. If you wind up getting a custom set, my advice is to spend some extra $$$ and get 8, that way you have a couple of spares for the next engine which will be needed if/when you break a crank or chuck a rod. Also, seems to me you should be looking at building a GT6 engine - it is much more forgiving if you want to spin the engine fast, like more than 6000. Going for huge power is over-rated unless you just want to spend a lot of $$$. Just sayin'. Regards,Bob Lang On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:17:50 PM EDT, Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where to source them? Thanks, Mike ZTriumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Aug 29 13:20:09 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:20:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers Message-ID: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> FOT, Good afternoon. We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. Paul Ricco (813) 716-1931 From paulricco at att.net Thu Aug 29 14:06:37 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:06:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> Message-ID: These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: > > FOT, > > Good afternoon. > > We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. > > We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. > > However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. > > They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. > > Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. > > Paul Ricco > (813) 716-1931 From jhasty at mhc-law.com Thu Aug 29 14:32:38 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 20:32:38 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net>, Message-ID: Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. > > Paul > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >> >> FOT, >> >> Good afternoon. >> >> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >> >> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >> >> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >> >> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >> >> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >> >> Paul Ricco >> (813) 716-1931 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu Aug 29 15:19:26 2019 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:19:26 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> Message-ID: Not at VARA... Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2019, at 1:32 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From paulricco at att.net Thu Aug 29 15:19:36 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:19:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> Message-ID: <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net> John, As I said, I am not running them. However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them. My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well. They have not arrested him either. So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> From triumphsix at yahoo.com Thu Aug 29 15:29:19 2019 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net> References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net> Message-ID: <1178182140.12330.1567114159615@mail.yahoo.com> Toyota ownership is definitely a crime! ???? Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 5:19 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John, As I said, I am not running them.? However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them.? My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well.? They have not arrested him either.? So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold.? Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car.? However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used.? They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in.? If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhasty at mhc-law.com Thu Aug 29 17:05:34 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:05:34 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <1178182140.12330.1567114159615@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net>, <1178182140.12330.1567114159615@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <60E790C7-B94A-417A-83AA-8644FCA05387@mhc-law.com> Sorry all.... the devil made me do it... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2019, at 5:29 PM, David Gott > wrote: Toyota ownership is definitely a crime! ??? Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 5:19 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot > wrote: John, As I said, I am not running them. However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them. My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well. They have not arrested him either. So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot > wrote: >> >> These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco > wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walt at hot-tr6.com Thu Aug 29 21:37:50 2019 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walt Hollowell) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:37:50 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <60E790C7-B94A-417A-83AA-8644FCA05387@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: Nobody saw me. I didn't do it. You can't prove anything.?Ted Kennedy?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: "John H. Hasty via Fot" Date: 8/29/19 5:05 PM (GMT-07:00) To: David Gott Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake Calipers Sorry all.... the devil made me do it... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2019, at 5:29 PM, David Gott wrote: Toyota ownership is definitely a crime! ???? Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 5:19 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John, As I said, I am not running them.? However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them.? My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well.? They have not arrested him either.? So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold.? Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car.? However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used.? They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in.? If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 6:15:31 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Triumph Racing Racing is safest when everyone is going in the same direction. [cid:c7e51e25-259e-443c-ab66-b4703f2633fd at namprd15.prod.outlook.com] Robert Goldman Collection. 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At the Sunday feature race, there were so many Volvo?s off the track that they had to black flag the race after the warm-up lap?.All part of the fun in the end > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > > It's also easier to tell who won. > > > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > > From: Fot on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 6:15:31 AM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Triumph Racing > > Racing is safest when everyone is going in the same direction. > > > Robert Goldman Collection. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=%2BaOWhu3qyGuOW1CN%2FgYqJkbpW4B%2Fi%2BqTF9NMUnKY%2FNo%3D&reserved=0 > > Donate: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=FVzpKHoM8o4EakI%2FrfoXJUyCPU5zz4lH4GEVWSdoC%2FM%3D&reserved=0 > Archive: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=1bL7HQTLuavEGXvTCxw3Q6xCDTxIleWFv7PsA3Tet4c%3D&reserved=0 https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225972620&sdata=Oec7Z8X76QC14AE0F%2B2rI%2BdU2j2oZQkKyALu0KCNYxc%3D&reserved=0 > Unsubscribe/Manage: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fsbarr%40mccarty-law.com&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7C24cc31e5eb0642c9dfd908d71671c489%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637002550225982612&sdata=XSO3NN25ibgYvvUl70PQ1snQ08mHLkek5%2B9FPDTyjrQ%3D&reserved=0 > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 09:00:28 AM CDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Amici... I've got one of those 'Direction' photos in my files too.? It is from 1990, at IRP, John Harkness (#37) and I (#29) were dicing all weekend long, when all at once John decided to go back to the previous corner to get some 'direction' from the workers.? The photo was used for a calendar in 1991. ?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can't find the list... - Tony D On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG > event entry list. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Kathy Swinford* > > Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list > To: John Styduhar > > > > We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com > . > Thanks > > Kathy Swinford > SVRA > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar > wrote: > >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in >> September. Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Thu Aug 1 12:32:46 2019 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 11:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there until 1 week prior to event. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Drews via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... - Tony D On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG event entry list. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Kathy Swinford Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list To: John Styduhar We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. Thanks Kathy Swinford SVRA Sportscar Vintage Racing Association On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. 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URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Thu Aug 1 12:43:21 2019 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 13:43:21 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> Message-ID: <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend.? :) - Tony On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > ? > It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event.? Maybe won't be > there until 1 week prior to event. > Charly Mitchel > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tony Drews via Fot > *To:* fot at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list > > I wonder where on their site it's published.? I can't find the list... > > - Tony D > > On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , >> concerning WG event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: *Kathy Swinford* > > >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar > >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com >> . >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar > > wrote: >> >>> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in >>> September.? 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URL: From emanteno at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 13:12:03 2019 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 14:12:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] DIRECTION In-Reply-To: <2055603607.792881.1564667993661@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2055603607.792881.1564667993661.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2055603607.792881.1564667993661@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here's mine. Grattan 1999. . [image: image.jpeg] First lap, she spun, and was driving counter race to the back of the pack so that she could turn around and return to the race. My friend saw this photo op developing, and captured the moment. Irv Korey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Scan_20190801 (3).jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 188786 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 45217 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 15:26:43 2019 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I found the Indy entry list on the Indy event page. The Glen event page is similar, sure it will be there. Indy https://svra.com/events/2019-brickyard-vintage-racing-invitational/ The Glen https://svra.com/events/2019-us-vintage-grand-prix/ On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:29 PM Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... > > - Tony D > On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG > event entry list. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Kathy Swinford > Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list > To: John Styduhar > > > We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. > Thanks > > Kathy Swinford > SVRA > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > > Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 15:30:51 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 16:30:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I am interested in the list as well. When you are towing cross country, knowing the size of the Triumph clan attending matters. Bob Kramer On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > I found the Indy entry list on the Indy event page. The Glen event page is > similar, sure it will be there. > > Indy > https://svra.com/events/2019-brickyard-vintage-racing-invitational/ > > The Glen > https://svra.com/events/2019-us-vintage-grand-prix/ > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:29 PM Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > >> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >> >> - Tony D >> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >> event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kathy Swinford >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Porsche vs. Jaguar vs. BMW vs. Ferrari? > > > > I see American cars in one group, then very small groups from only 4-6 > cars. > > > > What is the system behind this? > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 16:58:08 2019 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 22:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <002601d548b1$321bed80$9653c880$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1955379015.1067947.1564700288277@mail.yahoo.com> FV has a series here in the Mid-West and East Central. I believe FJ also has a series not sure though. On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 04:45:25 PM CDT, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: We are all spread out too far away to have a series. It would be great but not practical. Bob Kramer On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM Chris Marx via Fot wrote: Hu Guys, ? after having a look on the Indy entry list?.this is very different from Europe. In Europe all racing is organized in racing series. These series sorting the cars by their own will. ? Looking on this entry list, it seems there are no racing series in USA? There are groups and cars of similar types are sorted in this groups? But how about a competition? Porsche vs. Jaguar vs. BMW vs. Ferrari? ? I see American cars in one group, then very small groups from only 4-6 cars. ? What is the system behind this? ? Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Irv Korey _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 45217 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com Sat Aug 3 12:34:51 2019 From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 14:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Nomination for FoT Message-ID: I would like to nominate Tim Ross for membership in FoT. He has 3 Spitfires, a '63, '64 racecar and a '65 that is undergoing restoration. Any seconds? Some of the cars are for sale, and he has parts for sale. Mark, his email is hugcrv at fuse.net. 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Any seconds? > > Some of the cars are for sale, and he has parts for sale. > > Mark, his email is hugcrv at fuse.net . > > Cheers, > Doug Mitchell > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Sat Aug 3 12:55:47 2019 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 11:55:47 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination for FoT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89287A26-AF69-47AC-A6B6-A37404C8E2FF@gmail.com> A 3 Spitfire guy? Of course! 2nd!! Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Doug Mitchell via Fot wrote: > > I would like to nominate Tim Ross for membership in FoT. He has 3 Spitfires, a '63, '64 racecar and a '65 that is undergoing restoration. Any seconds? > > Some of the cars are for sale, and he has parts for sale. > > Mark, his email is hugcrv at fuse.net. > > Cheers, > Doug Mitchell > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Sat Aug 3 17:08:14 2019 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:08:14 -0400 Subject: [Fot] History of racing at Watkins Glen Message-ID: Classic Motorsports just sent out this old British Leyland documentary, by Brock Yates Sr, about racing at the Glen. Looks like it originally came out in 1972, It starts off with an ad for a Spitfire 1500. "Get the car, get the girl and a piece of History" See you there next month. https://youtu.be/0RuXJ5W1qxk enjoy mike h -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joeg at neb.rr.com Sun Aug 4 07:33:54 2019 From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 08:33:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Questions about TR8 Race Car Message-ID: <002f01d54ac9$44707400$cd515c00$@neb.rr.com> Possible GT1 Huffaker Clone - Greg Sharpe is asking questions in The Triumph Experience "Motorsports" forum. Link - https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/motorsports-forum.22/tr-8-gt1-huffaker-clon e.1637638/ I know almost nothing about these, so suggested we might find some FOT members with information. If you are interested in providing any information, please follow the link and post on the forum or reply directly to Greg at gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com. Thanks in advance! 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If you are interested in providing any information, please follow the link and post on the forum or reply directly to Greg at gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com. > > Thanks in advance! > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, Nebraska > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fmccjr at aol.com Sat Aug 3 18:58:45 2019 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 20:58:45 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> I?d like to nominate Michael Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! mleccese1 at verizon.net Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 4 13:27:43 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 19:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> Message-ID: <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> SECOND - but, does Michael have an e-mail address?? Regards,Bob Lang On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 3:18:45 PM EDT, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: I?d like to nominate Michael Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! mleccese1 at verizon.net Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Sun Aug 4 13:40:55 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 14:40:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> Message-ID: <7D560107-6A7A-483F-9CD4-00DE91962C9C@att.net> Second. We could always another TR4 team in the group. Welcome Michael. Hopefully we will see them at Watkins? Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:58 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > From joeg at neb.rr.com Sun Aug 4 17:04:01 2019 From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 18:04:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Questions about TR8 Race Car In-Reply-To: <986B331A-4232-4111-B259-F3FFC5833C82@rogers.com> References: <002f01d54ac9$44707400$cd515c00$@neb.rr.com> <986B331A-4232-4111-B259-F3FFC5833C82@rogers.com> Message-ID: <004001d54b18$e9bbb970$bd332c50$@neb.rr.com> Thanks, Paul. I knew (hoped?) someone in this group would know something about it. Joe G From: MACDONALD Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:49 AM To: Joe Guinan Cc: fot at autox.team.net; gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Questions about TR8 Race Car I have a bunch of info on the car. Talked to Chuck a number of times over the past 10 -15 years. Will share what I have, when I get to my pc. Paul Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Joe Guinan via Fot > wrote: Possible GT1 Huffaker Clone ? Greg Sharpe is asking questions in The Triumph Experience ?Motorsports? forum. Link - https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/motorsports-forum.22/tr-8-gt1-huffaker-clone.1637638/ I know almost nothing about these, so suggested we might find some FOT members with information. If you are interested in providing any information, please follow the link and post on the forum or reply directly to Greg at gregoryallansharpe at yahoo.com. Thanks in advance! Joe Guinan Fremont, Nebraska _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sun Aug 4 20:54:25 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 20:54:25 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> <1220630642.893081.1564946863947@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 8/4/19 1:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > SECOND - but, does Michael have an e-mail address?? > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 3:18:45 PM EDT, fmccjr--- via Fot > wrote: > > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he > put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the > VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive > spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Yes, he has an email address.? And unlike many, the person who posted the nomination included it in the original message - it is the mleccese1 at verizon.net line.? Some folks present a nomination, and expect me to somehow conjure up the nominee's email address to add out of thin air.? Such are the joys of being the list admin. mjb. From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Mon Aug 5 03:35:51 2019 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 19:35:51 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Canadian GP--sort of TR related Message-ID: A few of us are looking to come over for the 2020 kastner Cup and may come early and go to the Canadian GP in Montreal do we have any Montreal (or other) members that can give us some local "intelligence" on this event, grandstands to book, places to stay , etc etc thanks terry o'beirne australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes the TR4 vintage race car that is built from a car we pulled (yes winched out) from a swamp in some guys side yard in Maine so it was rough but now (many years later) it is a vintage racer. my email address as you know is mleccese1 at verizon.net and I live north of Boston and plan to participate in vintage racing on the East Coast in the next couple of years Thank YouMichael Leccese -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis via Fot To: fot Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2019 10:58 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination On 8/4/19 1:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > SECOND - but, does Michael have an e-mail address?? > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 3:18:45 PM EDT, fmccjr--- via Fot > wrote: > > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he > put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the > VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive > spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Yes, he has an email address.? And unlike many, the person who posted the nomination included it in the original message - it is the mleccese1 at verizon.net line.? Some folks present a nomination, and expect me to somehow conjure up the nominee's email address to add out of thin air.? Such are the joys of being the list admin. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mleccese1 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Aug 5 07:52:31 2019 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:52:31 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Barry Munson. Attending the KCup 2020 at M-O. Message-ID: We are enjoying the hospitality of Barry Munson at his Log Mansion near Edmonton AB. Barry has entered or attended 8-9 KCups in recent years. Traveling long distances....Mid-Ohio is long Tow for him and his TR3, but he is a stalwart follower. So we will have attendees from UK, Canada, and Australia. What a wonderful group we have! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hotels generally charge 3 times the normal rate for that week-end, and you may be forced to book 3 nights. Maybe better rates at bed and breakfast places or through Air BnB, I don't really know. Have fun! Claude On Monday, August 5, 2019, 05:34:39 a.m. EDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: A few of us are looking to come over for the 2020? kastner Cup and may come early and go to the Canadian GP in Montreal do we have any Montreal (or other) members that can give us some local "intelligence" on this event, grandstands to book, places to stay , etc etc thanks terry o'beirneaustralia _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lotusgagne at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mleccese1 at verizon.net Mon Aug 5 11:53:56 2019 From: mleccese1 at verizon.net (mleccese1 at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 17:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <7D560107-6A7A-483F-9CD4-00DE91962C9C@att.net> References: <7DACC735-6663-4BCC-B21E-197D1AF87B5B@aol.com> <7D560107-6A7A-483F-9CD4-00DE91962C9C@att.net> Message-ID: <1928456298.1277091.1565027636272@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you I look forward to FOT. I am looking to join the VSCCA and Mark O,day said I would need a recommendation from a member. Are you a member? Would you recommend me for membership so I can run with the VSCCA in future events....? Please let me know Thank you,Michael Leccese -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ricco To: fmccjr ; Friends of Triumph ; mleccese1 Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2019 3:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Second. We could always another TR4 team in the group. Welcome Michael. Hopefully we will see them at Watkins? Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:58 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: > > I?d like to nominate Michael > Leccese to FOT. He just started racing a TR4 this year/ one that he put together himself. I believe he races with HRG. I met him at the VSCCA races at Tamworth yesterday. Nice guy, with a very supportive spouse! > > mleccese1 at verizon.net > > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/logo_small_dppi.png] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_facebook.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_twitter.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_googleplus.jpg] [http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_linkedin.jpg] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13124 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:26 AM DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot wrote: > Hey membership, > > > > I got a good buddy, well as good as one can get that messes with > non-Triumph stuff anyway LOL!! > > He has purchased a WWII belly tank located in Hummelsburg, PA and needs to > get it one the way or to the Los Angeles area. Close to there, like Vegas, > or somewhere north is good as well. Anyway he?s honest and fair and is > willing to pay for someone?s spare trailer space. I attached a pic of it, > hope the site allows it to post never did a pic here before??? It?s right > at 10 feet long and about 24 inches tall. Move the Triumph off to one side > of the trailer and slide this right in next to it. Get your fuel paid for > free maybe??? > > > > [image: http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/logo_small_dppi.png] > > > > > > *Mark Craig *Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. > 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 > www.dieselperformanceparts.com > > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_facebook.jpg] > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_twitter.jpg] > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_googleplus.jpg] > [image: > http://dieselperformanceparts.com/media/mail/icon_social_linkedin.jpg] > > > > > > > Phone: 615-834-0066 > Fax: 615-834-9923 > Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mckearn2 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. :-( C ya,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage.? So one less supplier for racing parts._______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Wed Aug 7 16:46:33 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:46:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] SPEC pressure plates NLA for TR4A-6 In-Reply-To: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John and Bob, I agree. We have had an excellent experience with SPEC. WThey got stuff to us quickly and it has all held up very well. SPEC parts have been very reliable for us as well. It is unfortunate that another domestic supplier that was willing to help us is dropping out. Paul Ricco > On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > Major bummer - I've been using them for around 20 years with excellent results. > > Oh well. I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. > > :-( > > C ya, > Bob Lang > > On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage. 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URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 16:58:15 2019 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 22:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] SPEC pressure plates NLA for TR4A-6 In-Reply-To: References: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44589863.1968870.1565218695055@mail.yahoo.com> Just an observation; the parts are still listed on the SPEC website; could it be that the supplier the contact uses just doesn?t list the parts anymore? https://www.specclutches.com/618043/spec-stage5-pressure-plate-tr4a-stcr305-537400? -Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 6:46 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John and Bob, I agree. ?We have had an excellent experience with SPEC. ? WThey got stuff to us quickly and it has all held up very well. ?SPEC parts have been very reliable for us as well. ?It is unfortunate that another domestic supplier that was willing to help us is dropping out. Paul Ricco On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Major bummer - I've been using them for around 20 years with excellent results. Oh well. I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. :-( C ya,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage.? So one less supplier for racing parts._______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 8 04:32:32 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 10:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] SPEC pressure plates NLA for TR4A-6 In-Reply-To: <44589863.1968870.1565218695055@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1105726051.1937439.1565210837671@mail.yahoo.com> <44589863.1968870.1565218695055@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1113507507.2076397.1565260352608@mail.yahoo.com> Hi - yeah, interesting. The specclutches.com web site was down yesterday, but now seems to be working okay. Turns out that I need a clutch, I may try ordering one later today just to make sure that this option still is viable. OTOH, the Sachs pressure plates seem to work okay... Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 7:02:26 PM EDT, David Gott via Fot wrote: Just an observation; the parts are still listed on the SPEC website; could it be that the supplier the contact uses just doesn?t list the parts anymore? https://www.specclutches.com/618043/spec-stage5-pressure-plate-tr4a-stcr305-537400? -Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 6:46 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John and Bob, I agree. ?We have had an excellent experience with SPEC. ? WThey got stuff to us quickly and it has all held up very well. ?SPEC parts have been very reliable for us as well. ?It is unfortunate that another domestic supplier that was willing to help us is dropping out. Paul Ricco On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Major bummer - I've been using them for around 20 years with excellent results. Oh well. I guess I'll have to convert to a fancy small two -disk setup now. :-( C ya,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 3:58:36 PM EDT, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Trying to order a SPEC pressure plate, but I was told by SPEC representative today that they no longer manufacture a diaphragm pressure plate for the TR4A-6 in any stage.? So one less supplier for racing parts._______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Huovinen -----Original Message----- From: DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Aug 8, 2019 7:54 pm Subject: [Fot] Spit Aluminum Bellhousing <!-- #yiv0277660151 _filtered #yiv0277660151 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0277660151 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0277660151 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} #yiv0277660151 #yiv0277660151 p.yiv0277660151MsoNormal, #yiv0277660151 li.yiv0277660151MsoNormal, #yiv0277660151 div.yiv0277660151MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} #yiv0277660151 a:link, #yiv0277660151 span.yiv0277660151MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0277660151 a:visited, #yiv0277660151 span.yiv0277660151MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0277660151 span.yiv0277660151EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv0277660151 .yiv0277660151MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv0277660151 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv0277660151 div.yiv0277660151WordSection1 {} -->Hey membership, ? 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I'm sure you know about the think cast ones, I had one and it didn't last at all.? If you would like a new part Canley Classics has them as they had them made a couple years ago, I believe. Good luck in your search,Bob T.'64 Spit GT? autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Aug 8, 2019 1:54 pm Subject: [Fot] Spit Aluminum Bellhousing <!-- #yiv6571090850 _filtered #yiv6571090850 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6571090850 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6571090850 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} #yiv6571090850 #yiv6571090850 p.yiv6571090850MsoNormal, #yiv6571090850 li.yiv6571090850MsoNormal, #yiv6571090850 div.yiv6571090850MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} #yiv6571090850 a:link, #yiv6571090850 span.yiv6571090850MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv6571090850 a:visited, #yiv6571090850 span.yiv6571090850MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv6571090850 span.yiv6571090850EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv6571090850 .yiv6571090850MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv6571090850 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv6571090850 div.yiv6571090850WordSection1 {} -->Hey membership, ? 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I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap. Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however. I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design. 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I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sun Aug 11 06:14:39 2019 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. Glen with 1 "n". -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar via Fot To: Glenn Franco Cc: FOT list Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem?? Thanks On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 06:43:05 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 08:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D transmissions. Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed soon enough. The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. Glenn with 2 n's On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is > more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? > Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 11 06:47:24 2019 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <975123266.4048654.1565527644240@mail.yahoo.com> I have rebuilt many TR-3B through TR-6 gear boxes, both with and without overdrive.? The failure mode you mention is common, where the lay gear grinds into the rear thrust washer, and sometimes into the housing.? However, I have never had trouble removing the lay gear.? Once I remove the thrust washer, the lay gear lifts right out.? Am I missing something?? Are you working on a Spitfire or GT-6 gearbox? Once again, I pull the rear thrust washer out, generally with the transmission oriented with the bell housing down.? Then, with the gearbox oriented in the upright position, I lift up the end of the lay gear where I have just removed the thrust washer.? Once it clears the boss at the rear of the housing, the lay gear comes right out. Not sure this is any help, but that's my experience. Jack Wheeler On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 3:52:18 PM EDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Sun Aug 11 08:07:17 2019 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. References: <2038555896.2835652.1565532437132.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2038555896.2835652.1565532437132@mail.yahoo.com> Jack the late laygears use a pressed-in "shell" bearing.They can be fitted to the early circlip gears and aren't an issue but the pressed-only have a tendency to walk out and lathe (used as a verb) into the thrust washer so it can't be removed, so nor can the gear. The wear issue is exacerbated by all of the metal crumbs generated above the area by 1st/reverse gear graunching. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wheeler via Fot To: Glenn Franco Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:47 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I have rebuilt many TR-3B through TR-6 gear boxes, both with and without overdrive.? The failure mode you mention is common, where the lay gear grinds into the rear thrust washer, and sometimes into the housing.? However, I have never had trouble removing the lay gear.? Once I remove the thrust washer, the lay gear lifts right out.? Am I missing something?? Are you working on a Spitfire or GT-6 gearbox? Once again, I pull the rear thrust washer out, generally with the transmission oriented with the bell housing down.? Then, with the gearbox oriented in the upright position, I lift up the end of the lay gear where I have just removed the thrust washer.? Once it clears the boss at the rear of the housing, the lay gear comes right out. Not sure this is any help, but that's my experience. Jack Wheeler On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 3:52:18 PM EDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 10:24:38 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:24:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes exactly right. By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. So far I have not. Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered roller bearing. I would be interested in giving it a try. Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: > Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. > It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings > obviously but too common with the pressed only. > I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway. > In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's > exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by > the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust > washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case. > I share your pain... > Glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Franco > To: fubog1 > Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D > transmissions. > Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose > needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have > been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. > The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the > shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the > smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the > remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed > soon enough. > The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is > getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to > remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer > needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. > When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost > impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. > Glenn with 2 n's > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is > more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? > Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britcars at bellsouth.net Sun Aug 11 10:45:45 2019 From: britcars at bellsouth.net (barry rosenberg) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I would not expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay gear in your lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long bronze oil-lite bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with no problems. Also mich the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs are .0025" too small! Barry On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Yes exactly right.By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case.So far I have not. Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it.I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered roller bearing.?I would be interested in giving it a try.Glenn ? On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens.It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings obviously but too common with the pressed only.I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway.In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case.I share your pain...Glen -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Franco To: fubog1 Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D transmissions.Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed soon enough.The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands.Glenn with 2 n's On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. Glen with 1 "n". -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar via Fot To: Glenn Franco Cc: FOT list Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem?? Thanks On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2.I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap.Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however.I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design.Please adviseThanks in advanceGlennTR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Sun Aug 11 11:26:23 2019 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:26:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. Greg Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2019, at 11:45 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot wrote: > > Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I would not expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay gear in your lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long bronze oil-lite bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with no problems. Also mich the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs are .0025" too small! > > Barry > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: > > > Yes exactly right. > By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. > So far I have not. > Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. > I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered roller bearing. I would be interested in giving it a try. > Glenn > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: > Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. > It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings obviously but too common with the pressed only. > I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway. > In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case. > I share your pain... > Glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Franco > To: fubog1 > Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D transmissions. > Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. > The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed soon enough. > The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. > When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. > Glenn with 2 n's > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake To: barry rosenberg Cc: fubog1 ; FOT list ; Glenn Franco Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 12:55:57 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:55:57 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well that's pretty cool! I'm not sure those steel plates are big enough though? Did it screw up the case since it looks like your pulling from somewhere midway on the laygear. Thanks Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Blake wrote: > I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust > clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. > > Greg > [image: image1.jpeg] > [image: image2.jpeg] > [image: image3.jpeg] > [image: image4.jpeg] > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Aug 11, 2019, at 11:45 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot > wrote: > > Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I would not > expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay gear in your > lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long bronze oil-lite > bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with no problems. Also mich > the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs are .0025" too small! > > Barry > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes exactly right. > By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up with > a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. > So far I have not. > Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the > laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort to > grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. > I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a tapered > roller bearing. I would be interested in giving it a try. > Glenn > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 wrote: > > Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. > It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell bearings > obviously but too common with the pressed only. > I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove anyway. > In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & bearing, it's > exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal generated directly above by > the graunching going into 1st & reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust > washer and eats up the backside of the washer & the case. > I share your pain... > Glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Franco > To: fubog1 > Cc: John Styduhar ; FOT list > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D > transmissions. > Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not the loose > needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The last few years I have > been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 Transmissions. > The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks along the > shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer that is near the > smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture into pieces and the > remaining will dig into the thrust washer and then the case if not removed > soon enough. > The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the problem is > getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As I stated earlier, to > remove the laygear ( after the shaft is removed ) the small thrust washer > needs to be removed so the laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. > When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer its almost > impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case on your hands. > Glenn with 2 n's > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: > > That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. > > Glen with 1 "n". > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Styduhar via Fot > To: Glenn Franco > Cc: FOT list > Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. > > Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you described is > more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is it a general problem? > Thanks > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just cut off through the two vent opening are on the sides. I will pay the shiipping. On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot wrote: > Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I > do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or > maybe 2. > I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing > next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the > thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that > ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes > get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is > sent to scrap. > Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear out. > The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so you > can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to a " > Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it out. > Didn't end well however. > I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on > that end which would make more sense than the original design. > Please advise > Thanks in advance > Glenn > TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 14:13:17 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:13:17 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok, thanks. On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 3:02 PM John Styduhar wrote: > Don't scrap your TR gearbox case if damaged. The bellhousing can be used > for a toyota 5-speed conversion. Just cut off through the two vent opening > are on the sides. I will pay the shiipping. > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot > wrote: > >> Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this afternoon. Next one I >> do I'm going to insist that the owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or >> maybe 2. >> I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the layshaft bearing >> next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried to escape the case through the >> thrust bearing. I have tried in vane to remove the laygear with one that >> ground its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I sometimes >> get the laygear out but in most cases the trans case with the laygear is >> sent to scrap. >> Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease the laygear >> out. The normal way is to remove the small thust bearing with a magnet so >> you can tilt the laygear enough to get it out. I have even once resorted >> to a " Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the laygear to get it >> out. Didn't end well however. >> I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered roller bearing on >> that end which would make more sense than the original design. >> Please advise >> Thanks in advance >> Glenn >> TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 being restored >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sun Aug 11 14:46:38 2019 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:46:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <986074774.2824342.1565525679506@mail.yahoo.com> <1313831999.2844838.1565531749264@mail.yahoo.com> <511647011.2854310.1565541945822@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20952002-f312-2d68-b0f8-1d3941f4106a@verizon.net> Now that's impressive; simple, cheap, and it works. Good job. Cheers, Bill On 8/11/2019 1:26 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 > exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. > > Greg > image1.jpeg > image2.jpeg > image3.jpeg > image4.jpeg > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Aug 11, 2019, at 11:45 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot > > wrote: > >> Tapered bearings do not work very well in the TR7/8 5 speed so I >> would not expect much better in the TR3-6 box. Why not chuck the lay >> gear in your lathe, bore out the hole a little deeper and make a long >> bronze oil-lite bearing for it? I have done this dozens of time with >> no problems. Also mich the replacement lay shaft as the ones for MGBs >> are .0025" too small! >> >> Barry >> >> On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 11:31:25 AM CDT, Glenn Franco via Fot >> > wrote: >> >> >> Yes exactly right. >> By writing this post, I was actually hoping that someone had come up >> with a good method or tool to get that bugger out of the case. >> So far I have not. >> Its hard enough to get the left over shell of that bearing out of the >> laygear when you can get the thrust washer out. I have had to resort >> to grinding a slot in the bearing shell to remove it. >> I would appreciate it if someone has a procedure for installing a >> tapered roller bearing.?I would be interested in giving it a try. >> Glenn >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM fubog1 > > wrote: >> >> Yes Glenn that's exactly what happens. >> It's not an issue with the circlip gears converted to the shell >> bearings obviously but too common with the pressed only. >> I put a little loctite on them, they're usually a bitch to remove >> anyway. >> In addition to the high load on the rear of the laygear & >> bearing, it's exacerbated by all of the little bits of metal >> generated directly above by the graunching going into 1st & >> reverse, that stuff gets behind the thrust washer and eats up the >> backside of the washer & the case. >> I share your pain... >> Glen >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Glenn Franco > > >> To: fubog1 > >> Cc: John Styduhar > >; FOT list > > >> Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:43 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing >> failures. >> >> Just to clarify, the problem is on both 4 speed and 4 speed O/D >> transmissions. >> Every failure I encounter is with the caged needle bearings not >> the loose needle bearings in the very early transmissions. The >> last few years I have been rebuilding many TR3 and TR4 >> Transmissions. >> The bearing shell (that holds the needles in place) works/walks >> along the shaft and forces itself into the small thrust washer >> that is near the smaller 1st gear. The shell will then fracture >> into pieces and the remaining will dig into the thrust washer and >> then the case if not removed soon enough. >> The caged bearing shells are available through Moss but the >> problem is getting that laygear out of the transmission case. As >> I stated earlier, to remove the laygear ( after the shaft is >> removed ) the small thrust washer needs to be removed so the >> laygear can tilt and worked out of the case. >> When the bearing shell machines its way into the thrust washer >> its almost impossible to get it out. Then you have a scrap case >> on your hands. >> Glenn with 2 n's >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM fubog1 wrote: >> >> That problem isn't unique to the O/D boxes. >> >> Glen with 1 "n". >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Styduhar via Fot >> To: Glenn Franco >> Cc: FOT list >> Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 6:41 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing >> failures. >> >> Glenn, are you saying that the layshaft bearing failure you >> described is more prevalent when the tranny has an O/D or is >> it a general problem?? Thanks >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Glenn Franco via Fot >> wrote: >> >> Just finished another A Type Overdrive rebuild this >> afternoon. Next one I do I'm going to insist that the >> owner bring a spare 4 speed for parts or maybe 2. >> I very rarely find an overdrive transmission that the >> layshaft bearing next to 1st that hasn't walked and tried >> to escape the case through the thrust bearing. I have >> tried in vane to remove the laygear?with one that ground >> its way into the thrust bearing and sometimes the case. I >> sometimes get the laygear out but in most cases the trans >> case with the laygear is sent to scrap. >> Does anyone have a solution, trick, special tool, to ease >> the laygear out. The normal way is to remove the small >> thust bearing with a magnet so you can tilt the laygear >> enough to get it out. I have even once resorted to?a " >> Slugger Slide Hammer" and chain wrapped around the >> laygear to get it out. Didn't end well however. >> I did read somewhere that someone is using a tapered >> roller bearing on that end which would make more sense >> than the original design. >> Please advise >> Thanks in advance >> Glenn >> TR6, TR250, Miata, 47 MG TC For Sale, 73 BMW E10 2002 >> being restored >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > >http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The lug nut length is 2" overall with a shank length of 1 3/8 (1.375). The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625). Any sources for lug nuts that may have these? Thanks in advance. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From macdonaldp at rogers.com Mon Aug 12 09:01:04 2019 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (PAUL MACDONALD) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Lug Nuts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1739686986.3066126.1565622064909@mail.yahoo.com> revolution wheel | eBay | | | | | | | | | | | revolution wheel | eBay Find great deals on eBay for revolution wheel. Shop with confidence. | | | On Monday, August 12, 2019, 10:35:01 a.m. EDT, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: Good Morning! ???? I am having some issue finding lug nuts.? They are for a Revolution wheel and a 7/16 stud.? My problem has been shank diameter.? The lug nut length is 2" overall with a shank length of 1 3/8 (1.375).? The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625).? Any sources for lug nuts that may have these?? Thanks in advance. Joe DownerCharlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625). Any sources for lug nuts that may have these? Thanks in advance. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5603 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Turned out they were a Japanese knockoff and the lug hole was smaller. The guy at American gave me a bag of lugnuts anyway (16, full set ? free!) and pointed me to a nearby machine shop who trimmed them down to fit. Later I got new rear axles that came with bigger/longer lugs. Took 8 of those same nuts, had a local machine shop drill them out all the way through and re-thread them. --Rocky Entriken From: Paul MacDonald via Fot Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:03 AM To: 'PAUL MACDONALD' ; 'Joe Henry' Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Lug Nuts https://tinyurl.com/y3ur8l7p From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PAUL MACDONALD via Fot Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 11:01 AM To: fot at autox.team.net; Joe Henry Subject: Re: [Fot] Lug Nuts revolution wheel | eBay revolution wheel | eBay Find great deals on eBay for revolution wheel. Shop with confidence. On Monday, August 12, 2019, 10:35:01 a.m. EDT, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: Good Morning! I am having some issue finding lug nuts. They are for a Revolution wheel and a 7/16 stud. My problem has been shank diameter. The lug nut length is 2" overall with a shank length of 1 3/8 (1.375). The shank diameter is 9/16 (.5625). Any sources for lug nuts that may have these? Thanks in advance. 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All 4 pads measure between .605" and .610" overall thickness (identical to the new in box set) : $75 shipped in the USA Please send any replies to jsukey at gmail.com Thanks, Jason Sukey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobeirne at skillpro.com.au Sun Aug 11 15:53:23 2019 From: tobeirne at skillpro.com.au (=?utf-8?B?VGVycnkgT+KAmUJlaXJuZQ==?=) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 21:53:23 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> References: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In all my years of having a business fixing hundreds of these boxes , I don?t think I ever had to resort to a pulling device like shown I really am gob-smacked at what some of you guys are doing to these boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer can be a problem. but a hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the most recalcitrant of these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then be used to cut thru the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the 1970?s we mounted a die grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used a grinding tool in that to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then regrind the laygear to accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear laygear bearing has started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and conventional lathe tooling wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get thru the hard layer. Over the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the idea never really changed. Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if you leave a ?groove? or dent in the laygear housing, a replacement shell type bearing will never last. You usually can?t perform this repair with the later open cage bearings as the laygear finish and hardness wont be good enough. Its perfectly OK for a LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic below I also include a pic of a gearbox case bored out to accept a taper roller at 1st gear end. Have done it to both ends with shim adjustment at front. Done plenty of these [A hand holding a piece of metal Description automatically generated] [A picture containing ground, outdoor, transport Description automatically generated] From: Fot On Behalf Of fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com; britcars at bellsouth.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net; brakey6666 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > To: barry rosenberg > Cc: fubog1 >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18948 bytes Desc: image004.jpg URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 17:45:50 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:45:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Very interesting! Do you have a photo of the bearing install and do you use it with the bronze bush you installed in the Laygear? Thanks Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:53 PM Terry O?Beirne wrote: > In all my years of having a business fixing hundreds of these boxes , I > don?t think I ever had to resort to a pulling device like shown > > > > > > > > > > > * I really am gob-smacked at what some of you guys are doing to these > boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer can be a problem. but a > hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the most recalcitrant of > these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then be used to cut thru > the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the 1970?s we mounted a die > grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used a grinding tool in that > to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then regrind the laygear to > accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear laygear bearing has > started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and conventional lathe tooling > wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get thru the hard layer. Over > the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the idea never really changed. > Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if you leave a ?groove? or dent > in the laygear housing, a replacement shell type bearing will never last. > You usually can?t perform this repair with the later open cage bearings as > the laygear finish and hardness wont be good enough. Its perfectly OK for a > LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic below I also include a pic of a > gearbox case bored out to accept a taper roller at 1st gear end. Have done > it to both ends with shim adjustment at front. Done plenty of these > [image: A hand holding a piece of metal Description automatically > generated] [image: A picture containing ground, outdoor, transport > Description automatically generated] From: Fot > > On Behalf Of > fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > ; britcars at bellsouth.net > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; brakey6666 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and > Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! > Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > > To: barry rosenberg > > Cc: fubog1 > >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] > Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last > year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all > thread rod. Worked like a champ. * > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I use a common wheel bearing. part number shown on pic of case. I?ll dig thru my photo file. Same bearing/method used at input shaft end except I have a shim plate there to adjust end float/preload Without wanting to sound rude, this is not a conversion for the average ?back-yarder?. It requires considerable engineering skill and accurate machining, eg, the big holes bored in the case must be perfectly aligned and bore right thru from 1 end of case to the other. I gave up doing them for other people as they just take too long and people did not want to pay the hourly rate From: Glenn Franco Sent: 12 August 2019 09:46 To: Terry O?Beirne Cc: fubog1 ; gblake58tr3 at icloud.com; britcars at bellsouth.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Very interesting! Do you have a photo of the bearing install and do you use it with the bronze bush you installed in the Laygear? Thanks Glenn On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:53 PM Terry O?Beirne > wrote: In all my years of having a business fixing hundreds of these boxes , I don?t think I ever had to resort to a pulling device like shown I really am gob-smacked at what some of you guys are doing to these boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer can be a problem. but a hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the most recalcitrant of these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then be used to cut thru the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the 1970?s we mounted a die grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used a grinding tool in that to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then regrind the laygear to accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear laygear bearing has started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and conventional lathe tooling wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get thru the hard layer. Over the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the idea never really changed. Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if you leave a ?groove? or dent in the laygear housing, a replacement shell type bearing will never last. You usually can?t perform this repair with the later open cage bearings as the laygear finish and hardness wont be good enough. Its perfectly OK for a LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic below I also include a pic of a gearbox case bored out to accept a taper roller at 1st gear end. Have done it to both ends with shim adjustment at front. Done plenty of these [A hand holding a piece of metal Description automatically generated] [A picture containing ground, outdoor, transport Description automatically generated] From: Fot > On Behalf Of fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com; britcars at bellsouth.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net; brakey6666 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > To: barry rosenberg > Cc: fubog1 >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all thread rod. Worked like a champ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18948 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From brakey6666 at gmail.com Mon Aug 12 05:39:13 2019 From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 07:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. In-Reply-To: References: <134780221.2868080.1565545714388.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <134780221.2868080.1565545714388@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ok, thanks for the clarification. On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Terry O?Beirne wrote: > the brass bush is just 1 way of fixing the problem being discussed. That > bush can either be fixed like in the pic, or floating, depending on the > intended use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * for the taper roller conversion, I make up a ?stub axle? that presses > into the laygear and then the bearing sits on that. I use a common wheel > bearing. part number shown on pic of case. I?ll dig thru my photo file. > Same bearing/method used at input shaft end except I have a shim plate > there to adjust end float/preload Without wanting to sound rude, this is > not a conversion for the average ?back-yarder?. It requires considerable > engineering skill and accurate machining, eg, the big holes bored in the > case must be perfectly aligned and bore right thru from 1 end of case to > the other. I gave up doing them for other people as they just take too > long and people did not want to pay the hourly rate From: Glenn > Franco > Sent: 12 August 2019 > 09:46 To: Terry O?Beirne > Cc: fubog1 >; > gblake58tr3 at icloud.com ; britcars at bellsouth.net > ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: > Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. Very > interesting! Do you have a photo of the bearing install and do you use it > with the bronze bush you installed in the Laygear? Thanks Glenn On Sun, > Aug 11, 2019 at 5:53 PM Terry O?Beirne > wrote: In all my years of having a business > fixing hundreds of these boxes , I don?t think I ever had to resort to a > pulling device like shown I really am gob-smacked at what some of you > guys are doing to these boxes!! I totally agree, the rear thrust washer > can be a problem. but a hook pick and screwdriver can usually pull up the > most recalcitrant of these. In extreme cases a tiny Dremel grinder can then > be used to cut thru the thrust washer once its exposed a bit. In the > 1970?s we mounted a die grinder in the tool-post of the lathe and then used > a grinding tool in that to remove the outer shell of the bearing and then > regrind the laygear to accept a bigger bearing or a bush. Once that rear > laygear bearing has started to fail, the laygear gets very hard and > conventional lathe tooling wont work, even tipped tools can struggle to get > thru the hard layer. Over the years, the tooling got a bit flasher but the > idea never really changed. Doing it by hand can be a disaster, because if > you leave a ?groove? or dent in the laygear housing, a replacement shell > type bearing will never last. You usually can?t perform this repair with > the later open cage bearings as the laygear finish and hardness wont be > good enough. Its perfectly OK for a LG3 type bronze bush however?see pic > below I also include a pic of a gearbox case bored out to accept a taper > roller at 1st gear end. Have done it to both ends with shim adjustment at > front. Done plenty of these [image: A hand holding a piece of metal > Description automatically generated] [image: A picture containing ground, > outdoor, transport Description automatically generated] From: > Fot > On Behalf Of > fubog1 via Fot Sent: 12 August 2019 03:49 To: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > ; britcars at bellsouth.net > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; brakey6666 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph 4 speed O/D's and > Layshaft bearing failures. HaHa that's pretty slick (insert thumbs-up)! > Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake > > To: barry rosenberg > > Cc: fubog1 > >; FOT list >; Glenn Franco > Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] > Triumph 4 speed O/D's and Layshaft bearing failures. I had one stuck last > year. This is the little pulled I made from 2 exhaust clamps and some all > thread rod. Worked like a champ. * > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6310 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18948 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mark at bradakis.com Wed Aug 14 00:32:09 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 00:32:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Free TR6 frames Message-ID: To send mail to fot at autox.team.net, you send mail to fot at autox.team.net.? Here's a forward of a misguided message from hankgiffin at cox.net. ===== A friend recently sold a large metal shed with two TR6 rolling frames in it in Suffolk, VA.? Both on rims and tires, one with a stripped body with some rust.? The one with the body has low tires.? I expect both will roll with air to the tires.? No engines or gearboxes.? No titles.? I have a few photos. ??? He sold the property and the shed complex is being demolished at an unknown date, supposedly relatively soon. *The frames are free.* ??????I was there yesterday to pick up a Devin body sitting on an early TR frame. ?More info to follow on that. ???? The shed is in an old overgrown industrial complex.? Very rustic.? There is an unbelievable stack of large timbers that someone would love to have, but I expect they will be destroyed in the demolition. ???? The first to get here can have them. I will give directions but probably won?t be able to meet you there. ???? There is also a stripped early Austin Healey with rusting engine and gearbox on the property.? It?s been sitting in the mud for many years.? Not much left but free as well.? I have a few photos. ???? I hate to see these get destroyed. ???? Pls call me after 9AM if you can get here soon.? Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 Subject: FREE TR6 frames in Suffolk, VA From: "Henry Giffin" Date: 8/13/19, 11:46 PM From jsukey at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 07:39:22 2019 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:39:22 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Toyota 4 pot caliper stuff for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the interest. Calipers and XP10 pads are sold. XP8 pads are still available. Jason On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:49 PM Jason Sukey wrote: > Hi all, > I converted my GT6 back to Girling calipers, have some Toyota 4 pot > calipers and pads I'd like to turn into $. These are the same calipers > that also fit the TR's. > > -Pair of calipers, need rebuilt, includes 2 rebuild kits : $75 shipped > within the USA > > - Set of Carbotech XP8 (PN: CT137-XP8) brake pads, brand new in box: $100 > shipped in the USA > > - Set of Carbotech XP10 (PN: CT137-XP10) brake pads. "used" but not even > scrubbed in. Paint hasn't been cooked off the backing plate. All 4 pads > measure between .605" and .610" overall thickness (identical to the new in > box set) : $75 shipped in the USA > > Please send any replies to jsukey at gmail.com > > Thanks, > Jason Sukey > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hankgiffin at cox.net Wed Aug 14 08:01:29 2019 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:01:29 -0400 Subject: [Fot] SPOKEN FOR - FREE TR6 frames in Suffolk, VA Message-ID: <003d01d552a8$c6055800$52100800$@cox.net> I received a call this AM and he will take both frames to be picked up this week. Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 From: Henry Giffin Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 1:47 AM To: 'Fot' Cc: 'Henry Giffin' Subject: FREE TR6 frames in Suffolk, VA A friend recently sold a large metal shed with two TR6 rolling frames in it in Suffolk, VA. Both on rims and tires, one with a stripped body with some rust. The one with the body has low tires. I expect both will roll with air to the tires. No engines or gearboxes. No titles. I have a few photos. He sold the property and the shed complex is being demolished at an unknown date, supposedly relatively soon. The frames are free. I was there yesterday to pick up a Devin body sitting on an early TR frame. More info to follow on that. The shed is in an old overgrown industrial complex. Very rustic. There is an unbelievable stack of large timbers that someone would love to have, but I expect they will be destroyed in the demolition. The first to get here can have them. I will give directions but probably won't be able to meet you there. There is also a stripped early Austin Healey with rusting engine and gearbox on the property. It's been sitting in the mud for many years. Not much left but free as well. I have a few photos. I hate to see these get destroyed. Pls call me after 9AM if you can get here soon. Thanks, Hank Hank Giffin 757-375-1491 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wakeman) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:50:32 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <662a1a62-edb6-a01b-8517-6b68750adce6@gmail.com> On 8/14/19 11:44 AM, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff > lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 > rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have > heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol > I'm running Redline Redline 75W90 in my limited slip TeriAnn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 13:09:12 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:15:22 2019 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:15:22 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Running Redline MT-90 GL-4 in the Spitfire with a Detroit Locker. Is that good? The 43 year old stuff I poured out of it had the consistency of honey... Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. > > As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsukey at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:17:34 2019 From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:17:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was one who had unusual bearing wear with the redline shockproof. I've since started using the Redline 75w110 (gl5) in Spitfire/GT6 differentials using a Quaife. So far, so good! Jason Sukey On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube > you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was > using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. > Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsukey at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 13:19:59 2019 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1557544585.3861336.1565810399317@mail.yahoo.com> +1 to what Bob said. ? Running Mobil 1 75w140 in my TR4 with a quaife. ?We found this to handle the heat better than the Xw90 weight variety. Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 3:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tjwakeman at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:28:57 2019 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:28:57 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <873a5fb9-ea8e-e471-c2c2-b52480778822@gmail.com> On 8/14/19 12:15 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > Running Redline MT-90 GL-4 in the Spitfire with a Detroit Locker. I talked with a Redline rep. MT-90 is a GL-4 gearbox lube they recommend for the earlier gearboxes. He recommended Redline 75W90 for diffs. Check the Redline web site. TeriAnn > > Is that good? > > The 43 year old stuff I poured out of it had the consistency of honey... > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot > wrote: > >> Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The >> only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running >> the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka >> "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will >> eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 >> should not be a problem. >> >> As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been >> mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher >> numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot >> and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. >> >> Regards, >> Bob Lang >> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot >> > wrote: >> >> >> To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff >> lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 >> rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have >> heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > >http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tjwakeman at gmail.com > > -- Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada 2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write *Because the world beckons and life waits for no one* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Wed Aug 14 13:40:27 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:40:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We have been running Redline Lightweight ShockProof in ours with a Detroit Locker. We change it every 5th event and it comes out looking exactly the same as the new stuff that we are putting in. WNo signs that it has been burnt, beat-up or that it has dissolved anything that it should not have. So far, so good. Paul > On Aug 14, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > Running Redline MT-90 GL-4 in the Spitfire with a Detroit Locker. > > Is that good? > > The 43 year old stuff I poured out of it had the consistency of honey... > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert Lang via Fot > wrote: > >> Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. >> >> As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. >> >> Regards, >> Bob Lang >> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkjjk at aol.com Wed Aug 14 14:06:11 2019 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to all for your responses.? I appreciate it!-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lang To: fot ; kkjjk Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards,Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at artwithcars.com Wed Aug 14 14:11:53 2019 From: steve at artwithcars.com (Steven Belfer) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:11:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <466CEC3E-4C2C-4F91-84FE-96FFD3A05A3F@artwithcars.com> It?s a good idea to use a different color lube in the gearbox from the diff. That way you can see what?s leakin? ~Steve > On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:06 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > > Thanks to all for your responses. I appreciate it!-- Jay > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Lang > To: fot ; kkjjk > Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 3:09 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube > > Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. > > As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot wrote: > > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve at artwithcars.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Thu Aug 15 04:11:41 2019 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:11:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <466CEC3E-4C2C-4F91-84FE-96FFD3A05A3F@artwithcars.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <445510757.3853977.1565809752904@mail.yahoo.com> <244678136.4600.1565813171483@mail.yahoo.com> <466CEC3E-4C2C-4F91-84FE-96FFD3A05A3F@artwithcars.com> Message-ID: <1500848192.513357011.1565863901867.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> In 17 years racing I had a share of (limited slip) differential problems of course, but I couldn't blame the oil. I used some blands and in the end I decided for Castrol Syntrax Limited Slip 75W-140 for Salisbury type limited slip devices because this oil promises to cause less friction. It is recommended for BMW LS diffs and NissanGTR. When it is good enough for them, it must be good enough for our Triumphs. Although this oil is to GL5 specification, I wonder if this is a reason not to use it. GL5 and GL4 oils have the same sort of additives, only GL5 has the 'bad' additives in a higher concentration than GL4. And also, the salisbury (quaife) limited slip parts are all steel I believe? Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: kkjjk at aol.com Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Woensdag 14 augustus 2019 22:11:53 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Diff lube It?s a good idea to use a different color lube in the gearbox from the diff. That way you can see what?s leakin? ~Steve On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:06 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: Thanks t o all for your responses. I appreciate it!-- Jay BQ_BEGIN -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lang < [ mailto:robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com | robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ] > To: fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] >; kkjjk < [ mailto:kkjjk at aol.com | kkjjk at aol.com ] > Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube Hi - if you are running a Quaife, the Redline should be okay. The only reason it would not be okay would be if you were still running the stock differential center section which has brass / bronze (aka "yellow metal") parts. The shockproof stuff is API GL5 and that will eat the yellow metal. But the Quaife internals are all steel, so GL5 should not be a problem. As a point of reference and pertaining to the question, I've been mostly using Mobil 1 75w140. I would also recommend using the higher numbered oil 75w-140 vs 75w-90 because the differential runs very hot and I think the 75w-90 would be working out of temp range. Regards, Bob Lang On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 2:45:05 PM EDT, kkjjk--- via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ] BQ_END BQ_BEGIN _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve at artwithcars.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve at artwithcars.com ] BQ_END _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Aug 15 04:21:54 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:21:54 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars. I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil. Trouble free stuff. I use it also on the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. Cheers Chris Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Aug 15 05:09:48 2019 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 06:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> Any Redline MT or MTL fluid is designed for transmissions and is lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials. I had been using MTL in my racing diff for 7 years without a problem. This was with a gear set that likely had 50,000+ street miles on them so were well broken in. last year when I built a new diff with a new gear set, things did not go well. I used MTL and destroyed the gears in about 20 laps. The gears actually melted. The only conclusion I could draw was that I did not have the EP additive package required for hypoid gears during the critical break in period for the new gears. I now use the redline shock proof which does have the EP additives. Works like a champ. I have a welded diff. Greg Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote: > > I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars. > I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil. > Trouble free stuff. > I use it also on the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. > > Cheers > Chris > > > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 > An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com > Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Aug 15 07:20:46 2019 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1854942756.4089684.1565875246386@mail.yahoo.com> lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials.? This has always been my biggest concern, but I don't do LSDs... (well except for maybe a couple hits back in the early 70s...)Glen -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2019 7:12 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube Any Redline MT or MTL fluid is designed for transmissions and is lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials.? I had been using MTL in my racing diff for 7 years without a problem. This was with a gear set that likely had 50,000+ street miles on them so were well broken in.? last year when I built a new diff with a new gear set, things did not go well. I used MTL and destroyed the gears in about 20 laps. The gears actually melted. The only conclusion I could draw was that I did not have the EP additive package required for hypoid gears during the critical break in period for the new gears.? I now use the redline shock proof which does have the EP additives. Works like a champ. ?I have a welded diff.? Greg Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote: #yiv7709570345 #yiv7709570345 -- _filtered #yiv7709570345 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7709570345 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv7709570345 #yiv7709570345 p.yiv7709570345MsoNormal, #yiv7709570345 li.yiv7709570345MsoNormal, #yiv7709570345 div.yiv7709570345MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7709570345 a:link, #yiv7709570345 span.yiv7709570345MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7709570345 a:visited, #yiv7709570345 span.yiv7709570345MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7709570345 p.yiv7709570345msonormal0, #yiv7709570345 li.yiv7709570345msonormal0, #yiv7709570345 div.yiv7709570345msonormal0 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7709570345 span.yiv7709570345E-MailFormatvorlage18 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv7709570345 .yiv7709570345MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv7709570345 {margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 2.0cm 70.85pt;} #yiv7709570345 div.yiv7709570345WordSection1 {} #yiv7709570345 I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars.I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil.Trouble free stuff.I use it also on ?the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. ?CheersChris ? ?Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube ?To all FOT guys (and gals)-? Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?-? Otherwise stock GT6 rear.? I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. ? Thanks!- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Aug 15 15:06:42 2019 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:06:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Diff lube In-Reply-To: <1854942756.4089684.1565875246386@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1164009894.41407.1565808278978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1164009894.41407.1565808278978@mail.yahoo.com> <002b01d55353$43afbfc0$cb0f3f40$@gmail.com> <0FD92B80-EDE2-4ABE-89CC-5C5F12E64100@icloud.com> <1854942756.4089684.1565875246386@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4384236D-4114-4850-9422-E0D3752B8D7D@icloud.com> It?s the sliding of the hypoid gears across each other along with the normal surface meshing of gears that requires the EP package. As I understand limited slips, certain types require other friction additives to work properly, but I have not ever paid attention to that since I just weld my carriers. No slipping happening in there. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2019, at 8:20 AM, fubog1 wrote: > > > lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials. > This has always been my biggest concern, but I don't do LSDs... (well except for maybe a couple hits back in the early 70s...) > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Blake via Fot > To: Fot > Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2019 7:12 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Diff lube > > Any Redline MT or MTL fluid is designed for transmissions and is lacking the EP additives required for hypoid gears used in differentials. > > I had been using MTL in my racing diff for 7 years without a problem. This was with a gear set that likely had 50,000+ street miles on them so were well broken in. > > last year when I built a new diff with a new gear set, things did not go well. I used MTL and destroyed the gears in about 20 laps. The gears actually melted. The only conclusion I could draw was that I did not have the EP additive package required for hypoid gears during the critical break in period for the new gears. > > I now use the redline shock proof which does have the EP additives. Works like a champ. I have a welded diff. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote: >> > > I use Liqui Moly (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140 4421 in all race cars. > I had put in my LSD to the TR4 in year 2010 and it still looks like new which I blame to the oil. > Trouble free stuff. > I use it also on the TR8 and it works great?also trouble free yet, with more than the double torque and power on it. > > Cheers > Chris > > > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von kkjjk--- via Fot > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 20:45 > An: fot at autox.team.net; kkjjk at aol.com > Betreff: [Fot] Diff lube > > To all FOT guys (and gals)- Can you tell me what type of rear diff lube you are using with a Quaife LSD set up?- Otherwise stock GT6 rear. I was using Redline Light Weight Shockproof oil but I have heard that's not good. Thanks!- Jay De Pol >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hopefully this will continue for the race. > Cheers, > Dave H. > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From billdentin at aol.com Fri Aug 16 17:07:28 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 23:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Fri Aug 16 17:07:28 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 23:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 17 06:10:30 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna In-Reply-To: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096558994.429475.1566043830828@mail.yahoo.com> Hey - that sort of looks like my paddock spot at Summit Point in 2015. Minus the broken wheel stud at the end of the Kastner Cup race. I now have a spare oil cooler in the spares (and spare hubs, too). c ya,Bob Lang On Friday, August 16, 2019, 7:11:20 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 17 06:10:30 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Photo from Laguna In-Reply-To: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1728411426.6504257.1565996848361@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096558994.429475.1566043830828@mail.yahoo.com> Hey - that sort of looks like my paddock spot at Summit Point in 2015. Minus the broken wheel stud at the end of the Kastner Cup race. I now have a spare oil cooler in the spares (and spare hubs, too). c ya,Bob Lang On Friday, August 16, 2019, 7:11:20 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Talk about leaving your foot print. Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Friday, August 16, 2019,?Dave Hogye via Fot??wrote: Hey gang, thankfully this was not from my car, but obviously from a TR. Oil cooler failure. Me and my TR3 are running fairly well. Hopefully this will continue for the race. Cheers, Dave H. Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 07:10:14 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:10:14 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) > > - Tony > On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > > ? > It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there > until 1 week prior to event. > Charly Mitchel > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tony Drews via Fot > *To:* fot at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list > > I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... > > - Tony D > On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG > event entry list. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Kathy Swinford > Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list > To: John Styduhar > > > We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. > Thanks > > Kathy Swinford > SVRA > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > > Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pamraces1 at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 07:43:32 2019 From: pamraces1 at gmail.com (Pamela Shatraw) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 06:43:32 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: John The map has been updated and is in review- The updated map reflects the Triumph paddock. On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 6:10 AM John Styduhar wrote: > More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in > September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no > entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers > or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars > and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > >> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >> >> - Tony >> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >> >> ? >> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there >> until 1 week prior to event. >> Charly Mitchel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >> >> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >> >> - Tony D >> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >> event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kathy Swinford >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From billdentin at aol.com Sun Aug 18 11:50:42 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 17:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kas_Kastner=E2=80=99s_Sebring_TR4_=40_Goodwood?= In-Reply-To: <3EBCD7F8-E4AA-4BEA-8D5B-24935E14B903@gmail.com> References: <3EBCD7F8-E4AA-4BEA-8D5B-24935E14B903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1025441496.6947841.1566150642193@mail.yahoo.com> WOOT!? WOOT! Bill Dentinger PS...I am not really sure what "WOOT! WOOT!" means, but my grand children use it to show approval...so it must be good. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander via Fot To: fot Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2019 10:30 am Subject: [Fot] Kas Kastner?s Sebring TR4 @ Goodwood FOT, Congratulations to Keith Files and TR Enterprises on the acceptance to enter the Goodwood Revival in September. Son Josh Files to drive. If any of you are attending, this will be a great year to be there. (If there is, I would like to know. Thanks). The next important appearance of Sebring #38 will be at the Kastner Cup at Mid-Ohio next year.? SVRA?s Mid-Ohio June event. This TR4 and Keith Files won the Kastner Cup At Topeka, KS, before it was returned to England for total restoration to Kas Kastner?s original Sebring specifications. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keithfiles at btinternet.com Sun Aug 18 13:05:52 2019 From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 22:05:52 +0300 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kas_Kastner=E2=80=99s_Sebring_TR4_=40_Goodwood?= In-Reply-To: <1025441496.6947841.1566150642193@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3EBCD7F8-E4AA-4BEA-8D5B-24935E14B903@gmail.com> <1025441496.6947841.1566150642193@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <05D47F6B-5CAE-400D-8C76-92A0CE182305@btinternet.com> how cool, thanks Bill. I am pretty sure the some in-car footage will be posted? personally I am saving myself for the Saturday evening Ball which, i am sure, will be on a par with a Wisconsin supper club.. > On 18 Aug 2019, at 20:50, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: > > WOOT! WOOT! > > Bill Dentinger > > PS...I am not really sure what "WOOT! WOOT!" means, but my grand children use it to show approval...so it must be good. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Alexander via Fot > To: fot > Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2019 10:30 am > Subject: [Fot] Kas Kastner?s Sebring TR4 @ Goodwood > > FOT, > > Congratulations to Keith Files and TR Enterprises on the acceptance to enter the Goodwood Revival in September. > > Son Josh Files to drive. > > If any of you are attending, this will be a great year to be there. > > (If there is, I would like to know. Thanks). > > The next important appearance of Sebring #38 will be at the Kastner Cup at Mid-Ohio next year. SVRA?s Mid-Ohio June event. > > This TR4 and Keith Files won the Kastner Cup At Topeka, KS, before it was returned to England for total restoration to Kas Kastner?s original Sebring specifications. > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles at btinternet.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 05:41:23 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:41:23 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their website. On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: > Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. I will check > back later to see if its updated then. > > Marty > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will check >> back later to see if its updated then. >> >> Marty >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 06:14:26 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:14:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I was worried that the numbers wouldn't be there. This is great! Bob Kramer On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:14 AM Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is > going to be fun. > > mike h > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > >> Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their >> website. >> >> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: >> >>> Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. 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URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Aug 19 07:01:44 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:01:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: I just checked my SVRA account and even though I have an email confirmation of my registration from last December, my account page does not show the registration under Upcoming Events. I have sent that info on to Kathy Swinford tp get cleared up. Bob Kramer On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in > September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no > entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers > or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars > and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > >> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >> >> - Tony >> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >> >> ? >> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be there >> until 1 week prior to event. >> Charly Mitchel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >> >> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >> >> - Tony D >> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >> event entry list. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Kathy Swinford >> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >> To: John Styduhar >> >> >> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >> Thanks >> >> Kathy Swinford >> SVRA >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Mon Aug 19 07:11:48 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:11:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: My account is also empty. All I have is a receipt from last November for payment of the registration. Good enough for me. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:03 AM Bob Kramer wrote: > I just checked my SVRA account and even though I have an email > confirmation of my registration from last December, my account page does > not show the registration under Upcoming Events. I have sent that info on > to Kathy Swinford tp get cleared up. > > Bob Kramer > > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > >> More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in >> September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no >> entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers >> or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars >> and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot >> wrote: >> >>> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >>> >>> - Tony >>> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be >>> there until 1 week prior to event. >>> Charly Mitchel >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >>> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >>> >>> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >>> >>> - Tony D >>> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >>> event entry list. >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Kathy Swinford >>> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >>> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >>> To: John Styduhar >>> >>> >>> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >>> Thanks >>> >>> Kathy Swinford >>> SVRA >>> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >>> >>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >>> >>> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in September. >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage : >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Aug 19 07:27:19 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:27:19 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: Kathy already replied that I am all set. After a 24 hour tow the last thing I want to mess with when I get there is a registration issue. Bob Kramer On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:12 AM John Styduhar wrote: > My account is also empty. All I have is a receipt from last November for > payment of the registration. Good enough for me. > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:03 AM Bob Kramer wrote: > >> I just checked my SVRA account and even though I have an email >> confirmation of my registration from last December, my account page does >> not show the registration under Upcoming Events. I have sent that info on >> to Kathy Swinford tp get cleared up. >> >> Bob Kramer >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM John Styduhar via Fot >> wrote: >> >>> More information has been posted on the SVRA website for the WG event in >>> September, including a map of the paddock and surrounding area. Still no >>> entry list. On the map, I didn't see any area specific for TRIUMPH racers >>> or spectator parking. As usual, SVRA is promoting their T/A series cars >>> and also a Jaguar autocross area (??) but nothing specific for "us". >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tony Drews via Fot >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh good grief - if I could only read AND comprehend. :) >>>> >>>> - Tony >>>> On 8/1/2019 1:32 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> It's not there yet, I saw it on our Portland event. Maybe won't be >>>> there until 1 week prior to event. >>>> Charly Mitchel >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Tony Drews via Fot >>>> *To:* fot at autox.team.net >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:28 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list >>>> >>>> I wonder where on their site it's published. I can't find the list... >>>> >>>> - Tony D >>>> On 8/1/2019 9:12 AM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Response is below from Kathy Swinford, SVRA registrar , concerning WG >>>> event entry list. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: Kathy Swinford >>>> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Watkins Glen entry list >>>> To: John Styduhar >>>> >>>> >>>> We put the entry lists up about a week prior at SVRA.com. >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Kathy Swinford >>>> SVRA >>>> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association >>>> >>>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:04 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >>>> >>>> Will you please publish the entry list for the SVRA event in >>>> September. 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URL: From rick.parent at att.net Wed Aug 21 07:25:59 2019 From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Watkins Glen entry list In-Reply-To: References: <5306E430-5F9B-4E32-9580-90255738922A@gmail.com> <0197826b-9d0a-e81d-70a2-74421e338a44@tonydrews.com> <2BE1E95DE7C94CFA8E754DA0F92D963D@Charly> <1a19e04e-9073-1f3c-9ea2-807406fca257@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <167040558.157025.1566393959847@mail.yahoo.com> Here is a list of all the Triumphs registered as of today. On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 08:16:44 AM EDT, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: I was worried that the numbers wouldn't be there. This is great! Bob Kramer On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:14 AM Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is going to be fun. mike h On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their website.?? On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. I will check back later to see if its updated then. 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This is great! > > Bob Kramer > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:14 AM Mike Harmuth via Fot > wrote: > > A quick search returns 38 matches for Triumph in the entry list. This is > going to be fun. > > mike h > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 AM John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > > Entry list for Watkins Glen SVRA event in Sept. has been posted to their > website. > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM marty wrote: > > Thanks John. I don't see triumphs shown as of this morning. 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URL: From rick.parent at att.net Wed Aug 21 07:09:47 2019 From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Triumph parking at the Glen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1154559954.158917.1566392987454@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Guys, You will need to contact Alex Miller for parking info, I am just the lowly car guy, you can reach him at alex at svra.com he would be more that glad to help you out. See you all soon! On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 08:45:25 AM EDT, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: SVRA has released the track parking map for the event. Triumph will be paddocked behind the Pit Terrace grandstands, on the front straight.?Rick Parent, Will we have access to electric there? Will motorhomes be allowed there as well? https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/WG-Program-2019-Traffic-Flow-Chart.pdf?? thanksmike h_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rick.parent at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Aug 23 08:54:46 2019 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:54:46 -0400 Subject: [Fot] VIR rebirth. Message-ID: <64842F5F44324210BA940C5BDB28E416@VlackTK121647> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwE84xIv6k&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3aLRIM7nAp6otTfUWimgnSCZYopdoNbf54Ak5LtqNobp1Sd8AMiZgpEdM Hope this link comes thru. VIR reconstruction beginning. Amazing what it has become. One of my favorite venues. 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Bill Dentinger? -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack via Fot To: FOT Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 7:55 am Subject: [Fot] VIR rebirth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwE84xIv6k&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3aLRIM7nAp6otTfUWimgnSCZYopdoNbf54Ak5LtqNobp1Sd8AMiZgpEdM?Hope this link comes thru. VIR reconstruction beginning. Amazing what it has become. One of my favorite venues.?JVV_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jfrymark at aol.com Fri Aug 23 16:00:27 2019 From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 17:00:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Message-ID: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. John Frymark ?Gee? T6 Sent from my iPad From jhasty at mhc-law.com Fri Aug 23 17:00:01 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 23:00:01 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: > > > Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. > John Frymark > ?Gee? T6 > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > From jfrymark at aol.com Fri Aug 23 17:08:36 2019 From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:08:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Aug 24 01:21:06 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 09:21:06 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From billdentin at aol.com Sat Aug 24 08:11:08 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy.? He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; fot at autox. team. net Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car?? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? 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URL: From paulricco at att.net Sat Aug 24 09:16:41 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 10:16:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: > > Chris... > > If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. > > I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" > > If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. > > Bill Dentinger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > What for is a crew needed? > I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. > > Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot > Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 > An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > John, > Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. > > John > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: > >> > >> > >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. > >> John Frymark > >> ?Gee? T6 > >> Sent from my iPad > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From billdentin at aol.com Sat Aug 24 09:30:12 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> Message-ID: <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> Paul... Emily is a fantastic Pit Bunny. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ricco To: Bill Dentinger ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 8:16 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness.? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy.? He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; fot at autox. team. net Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car?? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sat Aug 24 09:43:12 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 09:43:12 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Valve Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8/24/19 9:28 AM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > Hello Amici, > > Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm > running a Kastner A10a cam. > > I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding > the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory > alloy valve keepers. > > Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? > Boy, I am definitely rusty, away from the game for too long. Trying to remember if the early 1300 has the same valve springs as the late 1300 and TR6.? TriumphTune in England comes to mind as a source for springs, as I recall, I may even have a set of something gathering dust on a shelf somewhere in my basement. I'll have to remember to try and dig them out, get some measurements. mjb. From cmstenquist at gmail.com Sat Aug 24 10:08:24 2019 From: cmstenquist at gmail.com (carl stenquist) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:08:24 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Marge is my Umbrella Girl, at least if I ever get a chance to race again. On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:30 AM Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: > Paul... > > Emily is a fantastic Pit Bunny. > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Ricco > To: Bill Dentinger ; Friends of Triumph < > fot at autox.team.net> > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 8:16 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I > always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: > > Chris... > > If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. > > I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no > friends" > > If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a > halter top. > > Bill Dentinger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' ; 'John H. Hasty' ; > fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > What for is a crew needed? > I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and > race them on my own. > > Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without > any help. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Fot Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot > Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 > An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen > > John, > Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few > minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. > > John > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind > pulling me from the car? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that > I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. > >> John Frymark > >> ?Gee? T6 > >> Sent from my iPad > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cmstenquist at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Aug 24 10:11:30 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:11:30 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> <328763916.2313905.1566660612264@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003301d55a96$98084250$c818c6f0$@gmail.com> To be honest, I leave my wife at home. Makes things easier. * No need for hotel * Working on the car as I like * Drinking as much beer I like * And many things more wifes doesn?t tolerate Cheers Chris Von: Fot Im Auftrag von carl stenquist via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 18:08 An: Bill Dentinger Cc: fot Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Marge is my Umbrella Girl, at least if I ever get a chance to race again. On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:30 AM Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: Paul... Emily is a fantastic Pit Bunny. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ricco > To: Bill Dentinger >; Friends of Triumph > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 8:16 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' >; 'John H. Hasty' >; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cmstenquist at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm > running a Kastner A10a cam. > > I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the > correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve > keepers. > > Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? > > Thanks! > > > *Brad Eells* > *Chino CA* > *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* > *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* > *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sat Aug 24 11:10:31 2019 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:10:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Valve Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <963C8C06-12F2-43F0-9E87-00A0C144DFF0@gmail.com> And APT is just around the corner from you. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 24, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > Hi Brad, I just ordered a set directly from Isky yesterday, they had them in stock. I'm running an APT BK-74 cam. David, at APT, also has springs as well and BP Northwest has springs that are OK up to 0.500 lift. > > Isky PN > wwe-005 outer > sp-116 inner > > mike h > >> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >> Hello Amici, >> >> Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm running a Kastner A10a cam. >> >> I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve keepers. >> >> Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm running a Kastner A10a cam. > > I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve keepers. > > Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? > > Thanks! > > > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhasty at mhc-law.com Sat Aug 24 15:09:01 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 21:09:01 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com>, <8FCE831D-A73F-4EB0-BEF1-EAE056BC9A9F@att.net> Message-ID: UG...rock band, just give me my Martin D41 & a bluegrass mandolin, banjo & base Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot > wrote: Bill, We run a tight operation. My crew chief doubles as our pit bunny. I always look forward to having some help from her with my safety harness. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot > wrote: Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' >; 'John H. Hasty' >; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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David, at APT, also has springs as well and BP Northwest has springs that are OK up to 0.500 lift. > > Isky PN > wwe-005 outer > sp-116 inner > > mike h > >> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >> Hello Amici, >> >> Wondering if anyone knows a ready source for 1300 valve springs. I'm running a Kastner A10a cam. >> >> I've been working with Ted Schumacher but we're having trouble finding the correct diameter springs for old school competition accessory alloy valve keepers. >> >> Does anyone have a ready source for a spring set? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"Engine number is KD7632E So my son?s gt6 is a mk2 w a mk1 engine in it. One thing I?ve never seen on a 6 cylinder engine is the word Special embossed on the block. It?s next to the drain plug on the right side. Anyone seen that before? " Thanks Mike H _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobeirne at skillpro.com.au Sun Aug 25 16:06:15 2019 From: tobeirne at skillpro.com.au (=?utf-8?B?VGVycnkgT+KAmUJlaXJuZQ==?=) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 22:06:15 +0000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 engine with "special" on the block? In-Reply-To: <65C994DF-A3BF-480F-B775-BA209CE511A4@me.com> References: <65C994DF-A3BF-480F-B775-BA209CE511A4@me.com> Message-ID: I have never seen a block marked ?special? in +40 years of working on them Yes, the bulges were for clearance and stiffening in the later 2500. Both TR and Saloon got this change , post 1972 I recall when they started using the O ring type head gasket The earlier 2500 blocks both TR5/TR6 and 2500 Saloon, were all flat sided. Ive seen post 72 2000 engines with flat sides, so maybe there was not a clean changeover date Terry From: Fot On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot Sent: 25 August 2019 23:50 To: Mike Harmuth Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 engine with "special" on the block? I?ve only seen those cast bulges on a late model GT6 engine - I assume it?s because the blocks were interchangeable with the TR6 in later years, but am not sure. Designed to clear the larger stroke of the TR6??? If this is the same as mine, the block is about 25 lb heavier than the earlier GT6 engine and I see no benefit to having it. However, mine does not say Special on it. On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot > wrote: This came up the other day on a Triumph forum. Stumping everyone there. Any ideas what SPECIAL on the casting means ? Not my car but interested in what it means. "Engine number is KD7632E So my son?s gt6 is a mk2 w a mk1 engine in it. One thing I?ve never seen on a 6 cylinder engine is the word Special embossed on the block. It?s next to the drain plug on the right side. Anyone seen that before? " Thanks Mike H _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Aug 26 20:07:13 2019 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 21:07:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> Message-ID: After some difficult consideration I'm going to have to cancel my trip too. I'm shorthanded at work and just can't justify all the towing time while I can race here in TX . I'm going to regret this, I'm sure, but I have to do what makes sense. I see you all at Mid Ohio. 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URL: From billdentin at aol.com Mon Aug 26 21:06:59 2019 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 03:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen References: <1466376415.3268194.1566875219666.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1466376415.3268194.1566875219666@mail.yahoo.com> Too bad, Bob...maybe next time. ?Watkins Glen is a Bucket?List track.Bill Dentinger Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Monday, August 26, 2019,?Bob Kramer via Fot??wrote: After some difficult consideration I'm going to have to cancel my trip too. I'm shorthanded at work and just can't justify all the towing time while I can race here in TX . I'm going to regret this, I'm sure, but I have to do what makes sense. I see you all at Mid Ohio.? Bob Kramer? On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 5:03 PM John Frymark via Fot wrote: Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. John Frymark ?Gee? T6 Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:17 AM Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: > Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where > to source them? > > Thanks, Mike Z > Triumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emanteno at comcast.net Tue Aug 27 03:18:25 2019 From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 04:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:17 PM Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: > Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where > to source them? > http://www.britishframeandengine.com/parts.html NFI. Irv Korey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 08:54:09 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 14:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> Hi - I hope you get some good offers, but the other responses I've seen so far are more likely to pan out: British Frame and Engine, APTFast, TSImported, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that has the situation, but I have several partial sets - .020 over, .050 over from broken engines. The .050 overs were from a TR6 running SCCA GT3 motor - the driver broke TWO pistons. In theory, you can get matching pistons for those sets from the manufacturers, but good luck finging a job number or other info. that you could use to get one or two pistons cut to complete a set. Especially, if the pistons are 20+ years old. If you wind up getting a custom set, my advice is to spend some extra $$$ and get 8, that way you have a couple of spares for the next engine which will be needed if/when you break a crank or chuck a rod. Also, seems to me you should be looking at building a GT6 engine - it is much more forgiving if you want to spin the engine fast, like more than 6000. Going for huge power is over-rated unless you just want to spend a lot of $$$. Just sayin'. Regards,Bob Lang On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:17:50 PM EDT, Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where to source them? Thanks, Mike ZTriumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Tue Aug 27 10:07:00 2019 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 12:07:00 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good comments Bob. Tullius ended up running the smaller 6 in his Group 44 TR6 and dropping down a class. Very competitive. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > Hi - I hope you get some good offers, but the other responses I've seen so > far are more likely to pan out: British Frame and Engine, APTFast, > TSImported, etc. > > I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that has the situation, but I have > several partial sets - .020 over, .050 over from broken engines. The .050 > overs were from a TR6 running SCCA GT3 motor - the driver broke TWO > pistons. In theory, you can get matching pistons for those sets from the > manufacturers, but good luck finging a job number or other info. that you > could use to get one or two pistons cut to complete a set. Especially, if > the pistons are 20+ years old. > > If you wind up getting a custom set, my advice is to spend some extra $$$ > and get 8, that way you have a couple of spares for the next engine which > will be needed if/when you break a crank or chuck a rod. > > Also, seems to me you should be looking at building a GT6 engine - it is > much more forgiving if you want to spin the engine fast, like more than > 6000. Going for huge power is over-rated unless you just want to spend a > lot of $$$. > > Just sayin'. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > > On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:17:50 PM EDT, Michael Zbarsky via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where > to source them? > > Thanks, Mike Z > Triumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Specifically, on my GT6, I am contemplating running 205s on the back and 185s on the front. I have run the 205s all around a number of times but the clearance is super tight up front. These are all Toyo R888s. Comments? Thanks Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 14:36:39 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Mixing tire sizes? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2112278883.2082101.1566938199189@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Brian - The size difference will change the handling a bit but you can "tune" the difference back to more neutral, if you want. My guess is that you'd introduce some understeer with the smaller contact patch in the front. What about running 185's all the way around? I guess the big thing for most of us is whether you want to carry more spare tires / wheels in case you have a problem over the course of a weekend. If all four corners are the same, a pair of spares should be all you need. If you have different sizes front and back you pretty much need four spare tire / wheels... not that I ever argued this endlessly with a certain car owner who just never seemed to get the "KISS" principle. WE spend over $5k on tires for one autox season back around '07. That was not smart (or simple). Personally, I like having the option to switch back to front or to swap in another pair of tires at one end or the other to fix handling issues. My tuppence. c ya,Bob Lang On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 4:25:48 PM EDT, marty via Fot wrote: Sending the email below on behalf of Brian Schirano who cant get through to the list. Marty From: Brian Schirano Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:56 PM To: Marty Sukey Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes??Marty - do me a favor and send this off to FOT for me. Twice now I have gotten a message something to effect waiting for moderator, non member. StrangeThanksBrian ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Brian Schirano Date: Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 3:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Mixing tire sizes? To: FOT 2nd attempt, first one said I wasn't a member??? Hi Friends Getting ready for the last hurrah of the season for me at Watkins Glen.? Question - what's the conventional wisdom within the FOT WRT mixing tires sizes on our road racers. Specifically, on my GT6, I am contemplating running 205s on the back and 185s on the front. I have run the 205s all around a number of times but the clearance is super tight up front. These are all Toyo R888s. Comments? ThanksBrian _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com Fri Aug 23 12:45:21 2019 From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:45:21 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR8 Parts Request Message-ID: <7A484B0A781A9940931D66568758C25D23FE42CD@A0775-XPO1043-C.ad.allstate.com> To All - I am looking for the following parts for my 1980 TR8 1) Rubber cover for the ball joints 2) Rubber cover for the front tie rods Any assistance would be appreciated. Larry Ross (412) 780-8495 - cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Aug 24 09:06:28 2019 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 17:06:28 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D66814B-50FD-43E8-BEBF-3A0753873FBF@aol.com> <000401d55a4c$7f91e5e0$7eb5b1a0$@gmail.com> <435407950.2319854.1566655868665@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401d55a8d$8241da20$86c58e60$@gmail.com> Hi Bill, as racing in Europe is organized in racing series, you meet the same people on every track. There is not lack of friends. I prefer to be able to do everything on my own, just in case nobody has time or is willing to help. But sometimes you need some help?..I play in a rock band and I can?t play every instrument?.so help is needed for a good sound. Cheers Chris Von: Bill Dentinger Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 16:11 An: tr4racing at googlemail.com; jfrymark at aol.com; jhasty at mhc-law.com; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Chris... If for no other reason than give the appearance that you have friends. I'll bet people walk by your paddock, and say, "That poor guy. He has no friends" If you don't need a crew, if nothing else, bring a "Pit Bunny" wearing a halter top. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marx via Fot > To: 'John Frymark' >; 'John H. Hasty' >; fot at autox. team. net > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen What for is a crew needed? I get two race cars to the track on my own, serve them there on my own and race them on my own. Here and there people help, but all is designed to be done by me without any help. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot > Im Auftrag von John Frymark via Fot Gesendet: Samstag, 24. August 2019 01:09 An: John H. Hasty > Cc: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen John, Unfortunately, It?s more about the 1200 miles each way then the few minutes racing! And my crew wasn?t coming along. John Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:00 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Hell John I?ve got two of them & fortunately crew won doesn't mind pulling me from the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:03 PM, John Frymark via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> Wow, great to see the large Triumph entry list, but disappointed that I?m having to withdraw...bum knee. Hopefully I will race y?all at Mid Ohio. >> John Frymark >> ?Gee? T6 >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue Aug 27 19:37:57 2019 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:37:57 -0400 Subject: [Fot] mixed tire sizes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: my experience with the GT6 is that the front tires do much more work than the rears in many respects. They wear faster, get hotter, need lower tire pressures to start to be equal at the end of the session with the rears. I don?t see any benefit to running wider tires just in the rear - this car is nose heavy and the front brakes do most of the work. I?d get the front fenders worked a bit to accommodate the larger tires - I found the same thing, that the R888Rs are slightly bigger than the old Toyos, and had to get a little clearance work done. I think you are short changing yourself with the 185s. You?ll find that the car will understeer more. Not that larger tires in the rear will hurt you, but smaller tires in the front will hurt. If you correct for it so the car is balanced, my guess is the car will be slower overall. Just my 2 cents. On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Thanks, will do a couple experiments. I'm bringing full sets of both sizes, and if I can find the room I have a set of Hoosier TDs, that would be three sets of tires, A bit overkill, just trying to use up the 205s Thanls B On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:39 PM Kas Kastner > wrote: This will work, but suggest reducing rear camber as the bigger tires (wider) will give more gip, thus more understeer. thsi is when the rear anti-roll bar comes into play. 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Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > I got a note from an old friend who has some TR racing photos, some digital, that he wants to donate to the FOT. > Who can I put him in touch with? > Thanks > Glen > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 89166 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are working with Moss Motors as the facilities to display the materials at The Petersburg, VA facility. In addition, we plan to resurrect the now dormant British Sports Car Hall Of Fame. This all may be administered by the Coventry Foundation and only housed by Moss. Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: I got a note from an old friend who has some TR racing photos, some digital, that he wants to donate to the FOT.Who can I put him in touch with?ThanksGlen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander via Fot To: fubog1 Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Aug 28, 2019 10:08 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR photos for archiving with FOT, who to contact? Glen, I am currently working on a project to archive Kas Kastner?s artifacts and pictures. I can accept the pictures and fold it into our project. The plan is to bring this stuff together with Mike Cook?s Archives, with VTR. We are working with Moss Motors as the facilities to display the materials at The Petersburg, VA facility. In addition, we plan to resurrect the now dormant British Sports Car Hall Of Fame. This all may be administered by the Coventry Foundation and only housed by Moss. Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: I got a note from an old friend who has some TR racing photos, some digital, that he wants to donate to the FOT.Who can I put him in touch with?ThanksGlen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jack ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Rick via Mgs To: Eric Russell Cc: MGs Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 3:55:31 PM EDTSubject: Re: [Mgs] To do Great plan! I'm restoring a TR6, almost as I type. I first verified the lack of rust then restored the engine and verified that it ran great. Then the suspension and brakes. The car is now stripped bare and ready for paint. The fun part will begin next: reassembly.? On Aug 28, 2019 2:20 PM, Eric Russell via Mgs wrote: When I decided to re-restore my MGA the 'To Do' list had three entries. 1) repair body 2) replace chassis 3) rebuild drivetrain It is good to break it down into easy to complete tasks... 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I have not run the 888r?s but have to believe they are equivalent/ Have fun at the Glen (still bummed I have to cancel!) John Frymark From mzbarsky at yahoo.com Wed Aug 28 18:08:46 2019 From: mzbarsky at yahoo.com (Michael Zbarsky) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR6 forged pistons wanted In-Reply-To: References: <195935283.3300319.1566875844828.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195935283.3300319.1566875844828@mail.yahoo.com> <34299518.1955573.1566917649125@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1455490662.669315.1567037326113@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks All for responses. I?ll follow up on some individually. Going with 2500 instead of 2000 as I have most of the 2500 components already. Block, head, crank etc. When I blow this one up I?ll build a 2000! Mike On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 9:07 AM, John Styduhar wrote: Good comments Bob.? Tullius ended up running the smaller 6 in his Group 44 TR6 and dropping down a class.? Very competitive. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Hi - I hope you get some good offers, but the other responses I've seen so far are more likely to pan out: British Frame and Engine, APTFast, TSImported, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that has the situation, but I have several partial sets - .020 over, .050 over from broken engines. The .050 overs were from a TR6 running SCCA GT3 motor - the driver broke TWO pistons. In theory, you can get matching pistons for those sets from the manufacturers, but good luck finging a job number or other info. that you could use to get one or two pistons cut to complete a set. Especially, if the pistons are 20+ years old. If you wind up getting a custom set, my advice is to spend some extra $$$ and get 8, that way you have a couple of spares for the next engine which will be needed if/when you break a crank or chuck a rod. Also, seems to me you should be looking at building a GT6 engine - it is much more forgiving if you want to spin the engine fast, like more than 6000. Going for huge power is over-rated unless you just want to spend a lot of $$$. Just sayin'. Regards,Bob Lang On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:17:50 PM EDT, Michael Zbarsky via Fot wrote: Anyone have a set kicking around they?d part with? Or suggestions on where to source them? Thanks, Mike ZTriumph 2000 race car (in need of engine) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Aug 29 13:20:09 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:20:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers Message-ID: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> FOT, Good afternoon. We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. Paul Ricco (813) 716-1931 From paulricco at att.net Thu Aug 29 14:06:37 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:06:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> Message-ID: These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: > > FOT, > > Good afternoon. > > We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. > > We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. > > However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. > > They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. > > Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. > > Paul Ricco > (813) 716-1931 From jhasty at mhc-law.com Thu Aug 29 14:32:38 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 20:32:38 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net>, Message-ID: Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. > > Paul > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >> >> FOT, >> >> Good afternoon. >> >> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >> >> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >> >> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >> >> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >> >> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >> >> Paul Ricco >> (813) 716-1931 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu Aug 29 15:19:26 2019 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:19:26 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> Message-ID: Not at VARA... Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2019, at 1:32 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From paulricco at att.net Thu Aug 29 15:19:36 2019 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:19:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> Message-ID: <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net> John, As I said, I am not running them. However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them. My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well. They have not arrested him either. So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> From triumphsix at yahoo.com Thu Aug 29 15:29:19 2019 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net> References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net> Message-ID: <1178182140.12330.1567114159615@mail.yahoo.com> Toyota ownership is definitely a crime! ???? Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 5:19 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John, As I said, I am not running them.? However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them.? My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well.? They have not arrested him either.? So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold.? Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car.? However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used.? They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in.? If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhasty at mhc-law.com Thu Aug 29 17:05:34 2019 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:05:34 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <1178182140.12330.1567114159615@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1357E08D-8D41-4D8D-9E5B-E5AB1C4C985D@att.net> <7E2F8AEC-8F63-4D74-9876-B0638473E7C0@att.net>, <1178182140.12330.1567114159615@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <60E790C7-B94A-417A-83AA-8644FCA05387@mhc-law.com> Sorry all.... the devil made me do it... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2019, at 5:29 PM, David Gott > wrote: Toyota ownership is definitely a crime! ??? Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 5:19 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot > wrote: John, As I said, I am not running them. However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them. My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well. They have not arrested him either. So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty > wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot > wrote: >> >> These are sold. Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco > wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car. However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used. They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in. If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walt at hot-tr6.com Thu Aug 29 21:37:50 2019 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walt Hollowell) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:37:50 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Brake Calipers In-Reply-To: <60E790C7-B94A-417A-83AA-8644FCA05387@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: Nobody saw me. I didn't do it. You can't prove anything.?Ted Kennedy?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: "John H. Hasty via Fot" Date: 8/29/19 5:05 PM (GMT-07:00) To: David Gott Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake Calipers Sorry all.... the devil made me do it... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2019, at 5:29 PM, David Gott wrote: Toyota ownership is definitely a crime! ???? Dave G Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 5:19 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: John, As I said, I am not running them.? However, the FBI has not raided my house and arrested me for owning them.? My brother in law drives a Toyota truck that has them as well.? They have not arrested him either.? So I guess they are legal for now. I just through them to see if someone wanted them for a project, or a street car or whatever else they wanted them for. Paul > On Aug 29, 2019, at 3:32 PM, John H. Hasty wrote: > > Gee, are Toyota calipers legal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: >> >> These are sold.? Thank you for all the interest. >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul Ricco wrote: >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> We have Girling calipers on our race car.? However, we ended up with 1 pair of Toyota calipers that are very lightly used.? They were last reman'd by Raybestos and they are in the packaging that they were shipped in.? If anyone wants to buy them, we will sell the pair of them for $50 and free delivery to Watkins. >>> >>> We would prefer to hand them off to whoever wants them at Watkins, as opposed to shipping them. >>> >>> However, we have all the original packaging for them and we can ship them within the continental US at the buyers expense ($50 for the pair + shipping). They are heavy so it will not be cheap to ship them. >>> >>> They are used, and available to whoever commits to them 1st. >>> >>> Please let me know if anyone has a use for them. >>> >>> Paul Ricco >>> (813) 716-1931? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: