[Fot] Bring a Trailer TR$

Dan Cronin adcronin at mi.rr.com
Tue Mar 20 14:02:10 MDT 2018


Folks
The original owner / constructor was a design / build architect and craftsman who got this project to its present state and then endured a very, very difficult divorce, lost almost everything and started over in a new location.  The project needed to be sold to cover some obligations from the split along with more…..This was nearly 4 / 5 years ago.  I followed the process on several forums, etc.  I watched the first motor start up on video.  I was caught up in this process as I am doing a nearly identical resto-mod on a TR2 that I owned in the mid 60’s in its original form and later was able to track down and am re-building it like I would order it today if Triumph still existed with custom ordering!  I can attest to the fact that emotion often takes over and blanks out the practical aspects of restoring or re-building one’s chosen vehicle.  It’s a shame the original craftsman was not able to see his vision to completion and I do hope that one day someone picks it up and continues the journey.  I just hope to complete mine before “they” take my drivers license away!
DC

On Mar 20, 2018, at 9:44 AM, JAMES GRAY via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Paul,

Don't assume the owner was just overwhelmed by the scope of the project. It could be medical or financial reasons.

I believe he spent $5K just for a delivered only Ratco frame. I think I can say he has more than the asking price invested since his car is an IRS as is my own and both share similar parts. It wouldn't take much to delete the disc brakes if one insisted on the originals. Personally I feel bad for the guy to have to bail on such a worthy car.

As far as surprises go, the normal surprises you won't find on this car are hidden body rot, bondo'd dents hidden frame rot, cracks, worn out suspension components, worn out motor & shoddy work.

There is a buyer out there for it, they just haven't come along yet.I hope he gets all the money he's asking for it.

jim g

> On March 19, 2018 at 3:18 PM Paul Ricco via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Scott,
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> That is why when things have been for sale for 2+ years on every site imaginable, we do not even waste our time bidding on them.  This thing has had more turns than a door knob at being sold.  We have seen for sale just about everywhere in the last 2 years.  I find that dealing with sellers like this is just a complete waste of time.  $17,000 is a lot of money for an unfinished project of this sort. It has been heavily modified and will never be viewed at the same value as a truly restored car by the collectors who pay a premium for originality.  
> 
> The surprises are a guarantee.  If it were that way to easy to throw it together and go for a ride, the seller would have done it.  There is always a reason why people give up on these projects, and they are never telling the entire story when it is for sale as unfinished.
> 
> No doubt it would be a fun car to drive when finished, but it could be an expensive and time consuming ride to get there.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
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>> Well, folks, even though this seller did not think so, there appears to be a strong market for unfinished projects.  I’m amazed this seller did not take the $17,000 high bid. The gap between what’s here and a finished car is potentially a lot of work and some surprises.   https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-triumph-tr4-4/ <https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-triumph-tr4-4/>
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