[Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

Tue Jul 3 09:32:58 MDT 2018

Hi Ken,

interesting subject.

This means, sweating would be harmful in a case of fire.

Question:

If you put a drop of water on a hot plate, you see the drop dancing on a steam pillow which protects the drop from vaporizing.

If your suit is wet, maybe it creates a cooling layer around you, as if water vaporizes it cools?

So this maybe delays the heat up of the suit?

Cheers

Chris

Von: Kenneth Knight <kknight at klaenv.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2018 17:05
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

Chris I never said that.  I was just pointing out that the folks that certify your drivers suit note the risk associated with soaking that suit before heading on track in the event of fire.  They have done the testing and detail what happens with fire turning a wet suit into steam next to your skin.  We all sweat during a race, sometimes it rains, this cannot be helped.  On a very hot and dry day you have to weigh and assume the risk of soaking yourself no matter the cooling provided.  I used to pour a bottle of water down the front of my suit on the grid, I no longer do that.  I am not interested in becoming a test Lobster no matter how small the chance of that happening.  

Good racing to you, Ken  

From: tr4racing at googlemail.com <mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com>  [mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 6:49 AM
To: 'Kenneth Knight'; fot at autox. team. net
Subject: AW: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

This means, no racing in rain with open top cars?

Cheers

Chris

Von: Kenneth Knight <kknight at klaenv.com <mailto:kknight at klaenv.com> > 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2018 15:47
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com <mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

Anyone soaking themselves in their suit may want to rethink this idea.  Not a bad thought to get you nice and cool but there are other considerations.  While doing some research for our Master Instructor program with VARA I came across information from the safety certification process that pointed out a wet drivers suit in a fire situation will quickly produce steam and par-boil person inside.  The ability to protect you in a fire event for enough time to be  put out or exit is seriously compromised.  The danger of burn injury goes way up in this event.  Likelihood of this happening, very low, probability that it could happen however is not zero. 

Buddy of mine, racing a car with a top, installed a cool box and puts on a cool suit.   I believe they also make a vest you freeze and put on under your drivers suit.

Ken

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Marx via Fot
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 11:51 PM
To: fot at autox. team. net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

I’ve once went under a cold shower before the race with my full racing suit.

Helped for about 40min of racing.

Cheers

Chris

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> > Im Auftrag von Phil Gott via Fot
Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2018 01:47
An: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com <mailto:johnstydo at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

A nice trick is to stuff ice cubes into a couple of quart size ZIP LOC bags, and place them under your driver’s suit, one on each side at waist level.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2018, at 2:27 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

My big concern is overheating both for my car and me.  The heat plus humidity will have you sweating just standing still.  Make sure to stay hydrated.

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I like the National Weather Service https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.700415776967645 <https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.700415776967645&lon=-80.11360801139983#.WzpBsy3MzzI> &lon=-80.11360801139983#.WzpBsy3MzzI

Looks like Friday is the only iffy day, but this has shifted from two days ago and may shift again.  

Overall looks pretty darned good - cooling off a bit too!

On Jul 2, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I just looked at the forecast for the end of the week for PIR and Pittsburg area.  They are indicating T-Storms mid week through Friday.  Looking decent for the weekend.  The Thursday and Friday test and practice days look wet.

What is the outlook for the weekend, given locale knowledge, of the East Coast weather at the track this coming weekend?

I had a message that Kas was on the road in Colorado.  I am flying in on Thursday.  Everyone have a safe drive.

Ken

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