[Fot] Six cylinder cams

Fri Oct 30 09:27:52 MDT 2015

I've been to a lot of car show, Cars and Coffee and of course autocross and racing events. I've seen a lot of different types of car guys like to think of cars guys like types of birds. If you place appearance above performance you are a peacock. You strut around and eventually stop to show off your plumage, and where you park at a car show is of high importance to you. Heck, if you can't find a good spot, where people can admire your work you might just blow off the show. Sure you know how to primer, paint, wax and polish to a glass like finish, but you are all for show. I like pretty things, I do, so you have my admiration. Some car guys  like to do road trips with other cars guys. They pick a leader and follow him. These are geese. Racers on the other hand are more functional, more stealthy. Appearance matters because it is a functional part of building a better beast, not the point of the exercise. We don't fly in formation, we strike out and swoop, like a hawk. We need the performance to do what we do. If it doesn't look just right we put a decal over it to cover up the blemish.

If you enjoy building engines and trannies and have a need to know how it works and to be assured that it was built properly, and don't know why those funny reciprocating buffers try to whip themselves out of your control you are some other type of bird. Maybe a hawk, maybe a hummingbird, but from your self description you aren't a peacock. May I suggest vintage racing................. 

Bob Kramer
rkramer3 at austin.rr.com

---- McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi.
>   I love  to build cars and I enjoy building engines and transmissions as
> well as all the other stuff that goes in. Body work???? now that's another
> story. I know I'll spend way more money in the long run if I build my own
> car but then again it will be my car...wait...am I trying to talk myself
> into building a race car?????
>  I already have a lot of what I need to get started so I guess I'm just
> going to go for it. So what if it takes me a few years. My last GT6 build
> took about ten and then I was really never  done tweaking.
>  Quick before I really get going on this someone stop me........
>                                                               P.J.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Bill Tobin <william.tobin31 at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > Race ready, yeah, heard that one before!
> > If you buy a used race car, take the purchase price and add that much more
> > to it and you may be ready for the track!
> > The good news is that it will be set up to your liking. And your specs.
> > No regrets on my part; the Redhead is still fun to drive and I'm having a
> > blast. May not be first but it was built to last.
> > Cheers, Bill
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
> > *To:* McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com>
> > *Cc:* FOT list <fot at autox.team.net>
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 8:32 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams
> >
> > Race cars, especially GT6s, aren't built /set up to be competitive in one
> > shot, unless you are Chuck Gee.  No rush. That said, as much fun as it may
> > be to build one, spending a little more up front to buy one that has been
> > raced will probably save money in the long run.  All that hardware - dual
> > braking system, competition shocks, fire system, roll cage, braided lines,
> > heavy duty stub axles, spare wheels, fuel cell, etc, etc, etc is often
> > heavily discounted in the price of a used race car.
> > You'll still need to build a good engine and do countless other things
> > (race ready, ha!) but you can probably save money over the long haul.
> > Who out there has a car for P.J.?
> >
> > Sent from my mobile device
> >
> > On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:44 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > O.K. I get it.  Race car or street car. One or  the other.  I guess I'll
> > have to build a race car and use it for track days.  I just can't make the
> > commitment to the time and money  required for racing at this time.
> >   With that in mind, I would appreciate some help.  Could I get a really
> > low interest 30 year loan for about 50 Gs or so?  Or just some honest
> > opinions from time to time is good too.
> >                          P.J.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Better yet, take it the full step beyond... and forget about track days
> >> and street GT6's all together.
> >> It's way more useful as a racer.
> >> The real thrill of the Triumph world is Race cars.
> >> All that Track day talk is building a car for 1/2 its duty both ways.
> >> Spend all that time and money, drive on the street and have some big SUV
> >> destroy it at a stop light.
> >> When it come to GT6's, there are race cars and there are street cars and
> >> never the two should be the same.
> >> Race.
> >> Full on Race.
> >> It will be the best and worst decision you will ever make all at the same
> >> time.
> >> The fun and friendship that you get from racing the car will outweigh any
> >> argument for the "track day concept".
> >> If you do either "properly" you will likely spend the same amount of
> >> money.
> >> But you will have way more fun racing.
> >> And you will be actually racing the thing.
> >> there is nothing better.
> >> We will give you all the help you need.
> >>
> >> Jason Ostrowski
> >> Friendly Ghost Racing
> >> 1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:05 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All.
> >>>   I'm starting on a new GT6 Motor and I have some questions.  First are
> >>> GT6 and TR6 cams really interchangeable?  Also what compression ratio do
> >>> you all feel is reasonable.  This car will seldom if ever see the street
> >>> but will mostly be for track days?  Thanks.   P.J.
> >>>
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