[Fot] Test

Sun Jan 26 18:11:12 MST 2014

LOL, exactly John.  Excellent!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:27 PM, John Hasty <jhhasty at gdhs.com> wrote:
>
> Good  Lord
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Bill Babcock <ponobill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> thats interesting, but its not really the protocol that making the
>> difference, its the way your mail client is using it. The primary
> difference
>> between IMAP and POP3 is that POP downloads the entire message to the mail
>> client as soon as the server recieves it, while IMAP just sends a
> notification
>> and header. The POP3 mail can be kept on the server as well or may be
> deleted
>> as soon as it is sent.
>>
>> The way IMAP is supposed to work is that your reader shows you the
>> notification and summary. You click on whatever you want to read, and the
>> reader downloads it. The IMAP protocol should actually use less bandwidth
>> since only email that you actually want to read is downloaded.
>>
>> The bandwidth issue you are encountering stems from new features in mail
>> readers that consolidate individual emails into threaded conversations.
The
>> process can be bandwidth-efficient with POP3 since the complete message is
>> already on your computer, but its cumbersome in IMAP since the archived
> mail
>> needs to be scanned and messages combined into threads, which then hides
> your
>> newest mail where you cant find it without paging through stuff youve
>> already read.
>>
>> Unfortunately most of the usual configuration options to disable this
>> feature dont really turn it off. They are more like sport mode for
> ABS.
>> They make it seem like youre in control, while they do their stupid thing
> in
>> the background.
>>
>> Add to this the wholesale replacement of text email with much larger HTML
> and
>> you have a background bandwidth hog. The benefit of substituting POP3 for
> IMAP
>> will vary greatly depending on your email reader and what kind of email
you
>> get. If you get a lot of spam or email you dont read then IMAP will be
> much
>> more efficient IF your reader doesnt scan to consolidate threads.
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:01 PM, MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have a look on the statistics in the left column since I did the change
>>> today:
>
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WF4kuJ4NZSs/UuVYQwuPTkI/AAAAAAAACAc/1iO_1
>>> MhrHAM/w379-h344-no/Aufzeichnen.JPG
>>>
>>> Hope the link works.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Bill Babcock [mailto:ponobill at gmail.com]
>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Januar 2014 23:53
>>> An: John Hasty
>>> Cc: MadMarx; <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Betreff: Re: [Fot] Test
>>>
>>> Allow me, I speak geek.
>>>
>>> He said he was experiencing an unexplained increase in internet volume
and
>>> traced some of it to the inefficient way that some mail clients use the
>> IMAP
>>> mail protocol whereby they frequently download large volumes of archived
>>> mail to search for message threads that can be combined. A really stupid
>>> feature that makes new mail disappear from your inbox and reappear in
an
>>> older mail string as a conversation". He switched to the older and
> simpler
>>> POP3 protocol and his volume decreased.
>>>
>>> In reality though, it probably wont change things dramatically for
Chris.
>>> His mail client will fight him all the way, trying to make life more
>>> organized.  I dont know whose stupid idea this is, but they have cost
>> the
>>> entire world countless hours of productivity and endless lost mail.
>>> Nevermind scaling up the requirement for bandwidth.
>>>
>>> Alas, there are all kinds of tools weve come to use that gobble
> bandwidth.
>>> Location services, push notifications, cloud storage, etc. If you elect
to
>>> use Apples cloud storage for music you can expect a huge increase since
>>> songs need to be downloaded and buffered over and over. If youre crazy
>>> enough to store video in the cloud your bandwidth requirements increase
>>> geometrically.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, John Hasty <jhhasty at gdhs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good grief!  What did he just say?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:03 PM, "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a traffic explosion the last 4 year.
>>>>>
>>>>> I found the reason.
>>>>> The Outlook IMAP account did rise that traffic.
>>>>> Outlook is checking ALL mails stored on the webserver, which in this
> case
>>>> is
>>>>> 45T mails to check.
>>>>> Outlook is doing that in the background and consumes 60-80 MB/hour.
>>>>>
>>>>> I converted the account to a POP account which consumes 0,8MB/hour.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite a difference :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Chris
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