[Fot] Hans Device

[Van Mulders Marcel]

Keith and Rocky,
The only time that the marshalls checked the extinguisher pin was in the UK
indeed. I'm racing on Europe main land, just only once in the UK.
Marcel Van Mulders
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Van: Keith Files [mailto:keithfiles at btinternet.com] 
Verzonden: dinsdag 15 oktober 2013 17:14
Aan: Van Mulders Marcel
CC: John Hasty; fot at autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Hans Device

In all my years of racing in the UK they have always checked the
extinguisher pin...

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> On 15 Oct 2013, at 09:55, "Van Mulders Marcel"
<van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> wrote:
> 
> I've always had a fire system fitted in my 10 years of racing : in all 
> that time, it happened only once, at Donington this year, that someone 
> of the marchals did check if the retaining pin was removed at the 
> start of a race (it was). Most of the racers don't care about it!
> Marcel Van Mulders.
> 
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> Van: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] 
> Namens John Hasty
> Verzonden: maandag 14 oktober 2013 22:44
> Aan: BillDentin at aol.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Hans Device
> 
> Well said Bill.  In addition to Hans, I strongly suggest that you have 
> a fire system.  Having been on fire I can attest that a hand held unit 
> just doesn't cut it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 4:31 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> In a message dated 10/14/2013 2:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, 
>> kknight at klaenv.com writes:
>> 
>> 
>>> If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or 
>>> similar device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November,
>>> 2013 issue (pg.
>>> 32).  Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your 
>>> favor as much as possible.  Enough said.
>> 
>> Amici...
>> 
>> I too read that article, and I sure agree it is hard to argue against 
>> the need to wear a HANS (or similar) when racing.  Why not increase 
>> the odds against serious injury or death.  Why not take every 
>> precaution
> you can?
> Why
>> not indeed?  It is foolish not to, and articles like the one Sam 
>> Smith wrote in the current issue of ROAD & TRACK will help racers 
>> come to that conclusion.
>> 
>> But in fact, that HANS device is no cart blanch waiver for avoiding
> injury.
>> From what I understand, it would not have prevented serious injury in 
>> what happened at Blackhawk last June.  I was not there, but I 
>> understand that the driver's head was struck by the wheel of another 
>> race car.  I am NOT speaking against the importance of wearing a head 
>> and neck restraint, I am
> just
>> not sure it would have been a fix in that Formula Vee race at Blackhawk.
> But
>> I understand why it caused Sam Smith to quickly question his own 
>> safety equipment habits.
>> 
>> Racing is dangerous.  Fangio said that he considered he was taking 
>> his life in his hand every time he took to the track.  But that was 
>> NOT his greatest fear.  He feared causing an incident where another 
>> would be injured or killed.  I kind of share that feeling.  Sure I 
>> don't want to be injured
> myself,
>> but I think I would have an even bigger problem having been involved 
>> in an incident I caused, where someone else was injured.  I stopped 
>> deer hunting not because I was afraid of getting shot, but because I 
>> worried about
> shooting
>> someone else by accident (that happens every year here in Wisconsin).
>> 
>> I think...especially in vintage/historic racing, just as important as 
>> the need for arm restraints, head & neck restraints, seat belts, roll 
>> cages,
> fire
>> extinguisher, etc., etc., is the need for a good, proper 'Vintage 
>> attitude'.  Because of the huge disparity in equipment and talent in 
>> our
> sport's race
>> grids, there is no room for 10/10ths (or worse 11/10ths) racing.
>> 
>> Wear a HANS (or similar), but also have a good vintage racing attitude.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
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