From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Mar 1 04:46:34 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 06:46:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Registrants Message-ID: We got the word from HSR yesterday, only 19 of us registered so far. Not the strong showing I was hoping for! This is why everybody needs to seriously consider this event: Track time. We will have our own run group. If we reasonably fill the group, we will be running with only Triumphs all weekend! In addition to the normal race schedule, we are getting a bonus session Saturday afternoon for the Kastner Cup race. On Sunday, we are getting the Small Bore Enduro for free! For an extra $260, we can run in the Triumph group AND the HSR Group 2 all weekend. You guys bringing two drivers, this is cheap track time! Plus Thursday is available as a test day. Full Cash Refund. Sign up for the fun, pay your money and if you need to cancel anytime before rolling your race car off the trailer in the paddock, HSR promises a full cash refund. Huge Triumph turnout expected. Both race cars and street cars. An all Triumph car show and other activities are going on thanks to the Georgia Triumphs Association. Triumph VIP's. Kas Kastner, Bob Tullius, Jack Wheeler, Bob Johns, and more. Talk racing with the legends in our sport! Parties: Our friends at Classic Motorsports have been doing this for a while, and have figured out how to put on a great time. Tim Suddard is buying the beer. Really. I am not kidding... (Again, thanks Tim!) Triumphs ARE the featured Marque. This is an event centered around us for a change. I believe we have been able to get everything we needed from the organizers to make this an event worthy the our significant anniversaries we are celebrating. 60 years of Triumph Sports Cars 50 years of Spitfires 10th running for the Kastner Cup Hope to see you all there! Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com From sjanzen at me.com Thu Mar 1 09:00:29 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 11:00:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 References: <4C720C17-D7A2-4267-8AD8-A31AF0F74991@REcatalyst.com> Message-ID: <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I can make. Scott Triumph GT6 From cartravel at pobox.com Thu Mar 1 09:21:00 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 10:21:00 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4FA1EC.8080805@pobox.com> Bob, thanks for the race report. Glad to hear the CVAR Triumphs are now back in full force. When I was running there were a few times when there were one or none. Who lit the fire under Bobby or did someone pawn a supercharger? Last time I saw him run, he was closer to the back than the front. Way to go. On 2/28/2012 12:57 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Part 2 From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 1 09:38:58 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 In-Reply-To: <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> References: <4C720C17-D7A2-4267-8AD8-A31AF0F74991@REcatalyst.com> <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> Message-ID: Me and my TR3A will be there...... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. 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IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:00 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I can make. Scott Triumph GT6 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From mediehljr at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 11:07:39 2012 From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:07:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 1 11:11:11 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:11:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CEC5EDD0E025AB-1280-11E84@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> OH MY.....a GT6 shootout! 2nd Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 12:08 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jason at multivintage.com Thu Mar 1 11:14:20 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:14:20 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <8CEC5EDD0E025AB-1280-11E84@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> References: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CEC5EDD0E025AB-1280-11E84@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <159753284-1330625660-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-417383623-@b28.c3.bise6.blackberry> Can't wait! I second! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+ Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:11:11 To: ; Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination OH MY.....a GT6 shootout! 2nd Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 12:08 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From rfdeanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:16:24 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:16:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 In-Reply-To: <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> References: <4C720C17-D7A2-4267-8AD8-A31AF0F74991@REcatalyst.com> <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> Message-ID: I am sure the whole "Ghetto" will be there, we usually have 15 or more TRs and this year should be no exception, lots of track time and good food and friends.Great event, good opportunity to see why we like VIR, you come and you will be back next year ! On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's > two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I > can make. > > Scott > Triumph GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From BillDentin at aol.com Thu Mar 1 11:20:35 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:20:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 Message-ID: <44663.2d7134d3.3c8117f3@aol.com> In a message dated 03/01/2012 10:04:13 AM Central Standard Time, sjanzen at me.com writes: > I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's > two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I > can make. > I won't be there, but I am pretty sure it is on Bob Wismer's list. He should be there in his TR4. Bill Dentinger From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 11:24:17 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:24:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1330626257.73662.YahooMailRC@web180809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of 18 so far??? A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From John.Reed at wilson.com Thu Mar 1 12:01:49 2012 From: John.Reed at wilson.com (Reed, John) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:01:49 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1330626257.73662.YahooMailRC@web180809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. John Reed Zippy Racing #69 BRG DP GT6+ On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of 18 so far??? A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed at wilson.com John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services [cid:3413451709_120557496] Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] From spitlist at cox.net Thu Mar 1 12:26:20 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:26:20 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Rick Kristoff Message-ID: <75AF79BD6E754A478333A3DD1CCAC9C1@Vista> Sorry to bomb the list, but would Rick Kristoff please contact me. Thanks, Joe Curry From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 1 12:59:11 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:59:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEC5FCE7D4D273-1280-12C60@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> yes! it's not too late. just do it! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Reed, John To: Bobby Whitehead ; Ed Diehl Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 1:02 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. John Reed Zippy Racing #69 BRG DP GT6+ On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of 18 so far??? A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed at wilson.com John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services [cid:3413451709_120557496] Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Mar 1 13:18:09 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty References: Message-ID: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> I also know Tim Suddard is planning on bringing the Group 44 GT6 that he just restored. I think the current plan is it will be a static display, as they are planning on selling the car at one of the big auctions this year. Sounds like we might just have one heck of a gaggle of GT6's down there. It would be great to see Zippy on track again, John! Scott Janzen, are you listening??? Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reed, John" > WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. From jason at multivintage.com Thu Mar 1 13:49:00 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:49:00 -0600 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 From sjanzen at me.com Thu Mar 1 14:47:48 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:47:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> I'd love to be there. It would be like, I think it was the 1971 runoffs, with six GT6s in the race. My car was one of them. Too much of a tow for me and I've got too much day job work to do. On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com From rfdeanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 15:17:26 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:17:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> Message-ID: It will be years before the Kasner Cup is back on the east coast....plenty of time to plan it ! On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I'd love to be there. It would be like, I think it was the 1971 runoffs, > with six GT6s in the race. My car was one of them. > Too much of a tow for me and I've got too much day job work to do. > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" > > Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. > Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. > > Hee Hee > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From rfdeanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 15:18:31 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:18:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> Message-ID: now if I can just spell !! long day On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I'd love to be there. It would be like, I think it was the 1971 runoffs, > with six GT6s in the race. My car was one of them. > Too much of a tow for me and I've got too much day job work to do. > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" > > Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. > Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. > > Hee Hee > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From cwnfot at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 16:32:36 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:32:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FS: Small journal Spitfire 1300 Message-ID: <02c501ccf803$963c8240$c2b586c0$@com> I came across an engine (and transmission) on EBay that is from a 1967 Mk3. The auction ended soon after I came upon it. Block number is: FE 14320 E EBay item is (it is still viewable): 170786971933 Item location: Birdsboro Pa which is South-East of Reading, PA Starting bid was $80 I contacted the seller, he has already sold the dual carb intake manifold. I told him of the thrust washer concern. He can be contacted at: tom kelly [tommmmmy at netzero.net] I have no interest other than saving it from the scrap-yard! Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From mlcooknj at msn.com Thu Mar 1 17:11:44 2012 From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:11:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> References: , <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: I'm tickled about the GT6 being "static". Last time I saw it, the car had a problem - it wanted to run on two cylinders but couldn't decide which two. It took the longest parade lap in RA history. Mike Cook > From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com > To: fot at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:18:09 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty > > I also know Tim Suddard is planning on bringing the Group 44 GT6 that he > just restored. I think the current plan is it will be a static display, as > they are planning on selling the car at one of the big auctions this year. > > Sounds like we might just have one heck of a gaggle of GT6's down there. It > would be great to see Zippy on track again, John! > > Scott Janzen, are you listening??? > > Henry > yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reed, John" > > > > WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj at msn.com From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 18:35:20 2012 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Windows Live Team) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 01:35:20 +0000 Subject: [Fot] weight on cars Message-ID: I heard that SCCA is requiring that your car's weight must be on your car for this year. I can't get any info from SCCA. Does anyone know where it goes on the cars and how high the letters must be. Thanks, Lorne From cwnfot at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:19:56 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:19:56 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [FOT] weight on cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02e101ccf81a$f6c02f10$e4408d30$@com> Everything should be in the SCCA GCR's Link to which at this location: http://www.scca.com/clubracing/content.cfm?cid=44472 Of course, should doesn't mean it is... Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 19:30:29 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:30:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1330655429.32131.YahooMailRC@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> as long as I can climb in and climb out of my car without cause... I'll be racing.... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "Reed, John" To: Bobby Whitehead ; Ed Diehl Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 1:01:49 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Re: [Fot] Nomination WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe itbs time I came out of retirement. John Reed Zippy Racing #69 BRG DP GT6+ On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of >18 so far??? > >A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... > >Bobby Whitehead >#39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ > > > > >________________________________ >From: Ed Diehl >To: fot >Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM >Subject: [Fot] Nomination > >Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of >Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida >Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been >doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently >smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in >the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. >Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, >1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we >have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman >(mnewman at embarqmail.com) > >Cheers, > >Ed Diehl >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed at wilson.com > > > > John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 19:34:20 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:34:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: <1330655660.49710.YahooMailRC@web180818.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I went to the Mitty several years back for the 40th anniversary of Group 44 particularly just to see the Group 44 GT6... if I had a butt load of money I'd buy that car! Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "yellow04 at tr4racer.com" To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:18:09 PM Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty I also know Tim Suddard is planning on bringing the Group 44 GT6 that he just restored. I think the current plan is it will be a static display, as they are planning on selling the car at one of the big auctions this year. Sounds like we might just have one heck of a gaggle of GT6's down there. It would be great to see Zippy on track again, John! Scott Janzen, are you listening??? Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reed, John" > WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 19:37:16 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:37:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a roadster but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ The Pawn Star of CVAR ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:49:00 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:43:24 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:43:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EA5756B-E4AE-4834-9F9D-FFE18C0C3744@gmail.com> The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 1 20:08:33 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:08:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s In-Reply-To: <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Spitfires and GT6s: Right now it is the plan to have the publisher of your namesake magazine, SPITFIRES AND GT6s, at the MITTY to cover your antics off and on the track. Kas has already submitted a worthy article to them in recent days. We should get some nice coverage from them Jason, they may want to discuss your AMBRO-GT6 project. I wish Chuck Gee and Jerry Barker were coming, along with Steve Smith and Scott Janzen, but it's such a big country and we understand we cant have everything. RIP our old GT6 friend Ed Ceilley.....many would not know this but Dr. Ed Ceilley stitched son Sean up when he was about two years old. Sean is 48 now Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 8:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a roadster but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ The Pawn Star of CVAR ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:49:00 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:43:24 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:43:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EA5756B-E4AE-4834-9F9D-FFE18C0C3744@gmail.com> The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 20:34:23 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:34:23 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red From chasgee at aol.com Thu Mar 1 21:01:15 2012 From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:01:15 -0800 Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s In-Reply-To: <8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> I think Jerry Barker is coming with his national championship Spitfire he recently re-acquired. Chuck On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Spitfires and GT6s: > > Right now it is the plan to have the publisher of your namesake magazine, > SPITFIRES AND GT6s, at the MITTY to cover your antics off and on the track. > > Kas has already submitted a worthy article to them in recent days. We should > get some nice coverage from them > > Jason, they may want to discuss your AMBRO-GT6 project. > > I wish Chuck Gee and Jerry Barker were coming, along with Steve Smith and > Scott Janzen, but it's such a big country and we understand we cant have > everything. > > RIP our old GT6 friend Ed Ceilley.....many would not know this but Dr. Ed > Ceilley stitched son Sean up when he was about two years old. Sean is 48 now > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bobby Whitehead > To: Jason Ostrowski > Cc: FoT Triumph > Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 8:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty > > > okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, > > "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a > roadster > > but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ > The Pawn Star of CVAR > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jason Ostrowski > To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com > Cc: Friends of Triumph > Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:49:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" > > Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. > Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. > > Hee Hee > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee at aol.com From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Mar 1 21:58:56 2012 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:58:56 -0600 Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s In-Reply-To: <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local><1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> Message-ID: When I talked to him a couple of weeks ago, he was busy putting the car together. He told me he was hoping to make the K-Cup. Scott Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- From: chasgee at aol.com To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Mar 2, 2012 04:01:15 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s From harmug at us.ibm.com Fri Mar 2 07:16:25 2012 From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:16:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 64, Issue3 Car weight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lorne, D. Displaying Minimum Weight Except for classes in which there is only 1 required minimum weight (i.e., ASR, FB, FC, FE, FF, FM, FS, FST, FV, SM5, SRF), all cars shall display the correct minimum weight specified in the current GCR in a manner that is clearly legible to the scrutineers at the scales. Cars that are run in more than one class must display the correct minimum weight for each class so that it is clear which weight applies to each class. The size and location are pretty vague. I protested this when it was first proposed. I don't want to make more work for the scrutineers, but we do have computers and smart phones these days, the information is readily available. I don't want my 63 Spit to have the GVW listed on it like a bread delivery truck. mike Will be at the Mitty, numbers and all G. Michael Harmuth From BillDentin at aol.com Fri Mar 2 08:04:28 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:04:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty Message-ID: <56a8e.747b7e5a.3c823b7c@aol.com> In a message dated 03/01/2012 8:41:12 PM Central Standard Time, igofaster at att.net writes: > okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, > > "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a > roadster > but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! > The Poor Man's XKE. I wish to hell I fit in one. Bill (Damdinger) From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 2 14:04:33 2012 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 16:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Sebring Message-ID: <000601ccf8b8$125e90c0$371bb240$@sbcglobal.net> Amici, Anyone from this esteemed group going to Sebring? Either to race, spectate or vend? Ted? I can probably be found at the 3,4,5,6 complex again this year. Track side of the fence. Doug Detroit Region and MTM F&C -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel at sbcglobal.net From rikrock at live.com Fri Mar 2 15:29:27 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:29:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System -SCCA Message-ID: Here's what I got from SCCA so far. x-store-info: sbevkl2QZR7OXo7WID5ZcdV2tiiWGqTnu8ByXefjVR0sCetct54Iblo2yXWIlSUJwJ3KELJuvDiBOddosTxKsFIhVixr2IJkNifqoHlk94LSdr9giehnSQ== Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=fail (sender IP is 174.120.20.98) header.from=rmiles at scca.com; dkim=none header.d=scca.com; x-hmca=fail X-Message-Status: n:0:n X-SID-PRA: rmiles at scca.com X-SID-Result: Fail X-DKIM-Result: None X-AUTH-Result: FAIL X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MTtHRD0xO1NDTD0w X-Message-Info: NhFq/7gR1vTj2Z7xd9Dl7hxgAmJ2mWq2TMVhlUuFk4WrgwmibX0RypTzzg7duAfJBD2f08vATn7vCtQsuy3ny+FD95MhYOwTnyocOHn8BR8SEqkYiH4l8ZO3HxVOlCbP Received: from gator856.hostgator.com ([174.120.20.98]) by BAY0-MC4-F13.Bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900); Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:18:54 -0800 Received: from jbauer12 by gator856.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S3I57-0006Ih-Pa for rikrock at live.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:18:53 -0600 To: rikrock at live.com Subject: SCCA Letter #7312 Update X-PHP-Script: www.crbscca.com/committee/viewdetails.php for 97.112.211.223 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rmiles at scca.com X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: InterAKT tNG mailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:18:53 -0600 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator856.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - live.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [713 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gator856.hostgator.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php /home/jbauer12/public_html/committee/viewdetails.php X-Source-Dir: crbscca.com:/public_html/committee X-Source-Auth: jbauer12 X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: amJhdWVyMTI7amJhdWVyMTI7Z2F0b3I4NTYuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Return-Path: jbauer12 at gator856.hostgator.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2012 02:18:54.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0C21440:01CCF81A] rich rock, Your letter has been reviewed by the Prod committee, and a recommendation has been made to the CRB. The CRB will review your letter and the Prod committee's recommendation on their next conference call. Your letter details are below: Letter #7312 Title: vacuum system rule clarification/explanation request Request: I'm interested in knowing why the use of an engine vacuum system which connects to the exhaust system is prohibited   (page 100 GCR).  I've seen such systems in use on cars raced in other series.Thanks,Rich Rock BMR tech inspector Thank you, CRB From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 2 18:54:16 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:54:16 -0700 Subject: [Fot] List notes Message-ID: <4F5179C8.4070800@bradakis.com> Every now and again I get a message from Mordy which consists of little more than something forwarded from someone with a Team.Net issue. Mordy has nothing to do with it, folks. The person running Team.Net is me, mjb, mark at bradakis.com. Please don't bother Mordy with stuff not in his realm. I try to keep it all running as smoothly as possible, not drawing attention to the man behind the curtain. Usually it works, but sometimes things happen. Currently there are some issues with the new server regarding the forums, the archives and some web pages. I try to get things fixed when I can - remember I do have a real job and some bit of life outside of Team.Net. I better have everything up to snuff soon, the annual fund drive will be coming up and I want folks to be happy with the service! There was an unusual interruption last night. For various reasons my wife's Windows machine is over there on the floor and the new Team.Net server is up in the living room where she can make use of it temporarily while I work on getting things back in their proper places. So she's working on the computer last night, she basically just needs a simple web browser. She finishes up and then shuts off the machine. Yep, she just turns off Team.Net. Nice. Of course I always threaten to do that when something goes awry, have been for the last 20+ years, will probably continue to threaten. But I don't really mean it. I'll have her machine back in its proper place this weekend. If anyone is going to just shutdown Team.Net it better be me! mjb. From mediehljr at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 06:05:16 2012 From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 05:05:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Sebring In-Reply-To: <1330779526.6822.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000601ccf8b8$125e90c0$371bb240$@sbcglobal.net> <1330779526.6822.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1330779916.99106.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ed Diehl ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Ed Diehl To: Doug Mitchell Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Sebring I will be there as usual. I will be with SCCA race control. I usually can be found driving the worker Shuttle 1. Been at this for a lotta years. Look me up. Cheers, Ed. Ed Diehl ________________________________ From: Doug Mitchell To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 4:04 PM Subject: [Fot] Sebring Amici, Anyone from this esteemed group going to Sebring? Either to race, spectate or vend? Ted? I can probably be found at the 3,4,5,6 complex again this year. Track side of the fence. Doug Detroit Region and MTM F&C -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mediehljr at yahoo.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sat Mar 3 07:03:08 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:03:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Sebring References: <000601ccf8b8$125e90c0$371bb240$@sbcglobal.net> <1330779526.6822.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1330779916.99106.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ed, my friend Brian McKie, from Grand Island, NY, will be there with his MGB. #39, kind of greenish/gray. Nice looking car and a real decent guy. Look him up and he may give you a beer! PS, how's the "Better Diehl" doing? Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Diehl" To: "fot" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 8:05 AM Subject: [Fot] Fw: Sebring > > Ed Diehl > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Ed Diehl > > To: Doug Mitchell > Sent: > Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Sebring > > > I will be there > as usual. I will be with SCCA race control. I usually can be found driving > the > worker Shuttle 1. Been at this for a lotta years. Look me up. Cheers, Ed. > > > Ed Diehl > > > ________________________________ > From: Doug Mitchell > > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 > 4:04 PM > Subject: [Fot] Sebring > > Amici, > > Anyone from this esteemed group going > to Sebring? Either to race, spectate > or vend? Ted? > > I can probably be found at > the 3,4,5,6 complex again this year. Track side > of the fence. > > Doug > Detroit > Region and MTM F&C > > -- > Doug Mitchell > dmitchel at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mediehljr at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 07:27:48 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:27:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LAST CALL FOR MITTY SHIRTS Message-ID: I am submitting the shirt order next Sunday March 11th so you have until next Saturday to get your Kastner Cup or FOT shirt orders in to me. If you have a shirt on order currently you would have received an acknowledgement email from me. If you are not sure feel free to drop me a line and I will check. Kastner Cup drivers names on the shirt. We need to finalize this by next saturday also. All the names that are currently going on the shirt are listed on the FOT-racing.com web site http://www.fot-racing.com/feature/2012mitty/participants.htm . Thanks Henry. If you are planning on racing and your name is not on the list let me know. If your name is on the list and you know you will not be attending also let me know so we can make the text bigger for those attending. Right now it looks like we will be making around 180 total shirts. The Kastner Cup shirts should be a pretty neat souvenir for this fantastic event. Marty From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Sun Mar 4 10:49:44 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 11:49:44 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> Here is a link to one of the group 4 races. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvDLoYZpko&feature=g-upl&context=G2465543AUA AAAAAAAAA Enjoy, I surely did. BTW... I spoke to the Vete driver after the race about the yellow colored thing waiving in turns 1-2 and 3. I also laughed with Duncan that my little hand wave reminded him not to pass under yellow. Great weekend all in all just missing Red No. 14. See yall at the Mitty. Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:34 PM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2 at austin.rr.com From cofrog at q.com Sun Mar 4 11:24:26 2012 From: cofrog at q.com (cofrog at q.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:24:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Gearbox Number In-Reply-To: <130172256.210345.1330885386173.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Does anyone know if a TR4 gearbox with the number 304692SM on the right side of the casing is out of a TR4 or TR4A? Thanks, Dan From TR3driver at ca.rr.com Sun Mar 4 12:03:14 2012 From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 11:03:14 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Gearbox Number In-Reply-To: <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> References: <130172256.210345.1330885386173.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <06a701ccfa39$73ef1530$0301a8c0@randall> > Does anyone know if a TR4 gearbox with the number 304692SM on > the right side of the casing is out of a TR4 or TR4A? What difference does it make? That is a casting number, and AFAIK the castings were the same between 4 and 4A. You need to look for the serial number, which I think should be on the LH side, on the boss for the clutch shaft and start with the letters CT. -- Randall From cofrog at q.com Sun Mar 4 12:34:50 2012 From: cofrog at q.com (cofrog at q.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 14:34:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] [TR] Gearbox Number Correction In-Reply-To: <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <149303509.211872.1330889690801.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Oops. I gave a casting number. The serial number is ct19808. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: cofrog at q.com To: "triumph" , "triumph fot" Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:24:26 AM Subject: [TR] Gearbox Number Does anyone know if a TR4 gearbox with the number 304692SM on the right side of the casing is out of a TR4 or TR4A? Thanks, Dan ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cofrog at q.com From sm1ski at dslextreme.com Sat Mar 3 11:12:54 2012 From: sm1ski at dslextreme.com (michael a kowalski) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:12:54 -0700 Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local><1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> Message-ID: <235E71D5CBBB43A494E2A028C92DDE00@sarako> FOT List: May I pose a question to those who know: I have never been concerned with serial numbers and sources for my Spit racecar; consequently, I have not kept up with how to document dates and details of Triumph production. However, my partner in my spitfire is restoring a TR3 and posed a lineage question about his car. Would you direct me to sources of the designations that have been found (the Moss catalogue has given us some information)? 1) Engine Number: TSF 303F 2) Transmission Number: TSF 375 3) An impression on the bottom of the passenger floorboard of the body shows a "logo" that looks like a wheeled vehicle carrying a winged "unicorn(????);" underneath that is a word, "Welsh_R?????." In a section beneath that, it looks like the date," 31___12___61(a manufacturering date of December 31st, 1961???) and a number 55090(the vehicle number of manufacture?). Any guidence in approaching the origin of these these numbers would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. mike kowalski, 1500 FP Spit From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 4 14:21:27 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:21:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] All-Triumph race at Willow Springs March 31 Message-ID: <12285961.1330896087970.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Friends, As part of VARA's "High Desert Challenge" race weekend March 31-Apr 1, there will be an all-Triumph race in addition to the regular run-groups and 2-hour enduro. Just thought I'd put the word out in case some of you guys. I signed up for the enduro and will spend most of Saturday, March 31, racing around WSR! Alert the clubs, there will be a Triumph Corral for the street car folks. ~Steve From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 4 18:20:22 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 18:20:22 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Message-ID: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 10:47:41 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:47:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. Mike From: Mark J Bradakis To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 11:06:06 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:06:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CEC911C55561C1-1DC4-4471@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> CHECK: themitty.com has the host hotel by CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS. it is the Holiday Inn Express that Mike mentions. i understand that there is a large selection, but dont have a list. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Munson To: Mark J Bradakis ; FOT Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 11:52 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. Mike From: Mark J Bradakis To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 11:24:36 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 12:24:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <8CEC911C55561C1-1DC4-4471@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CEC911C55561C1-1DC4-4471@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <793D2D2D-F071-488F-BC7F-EA14A34D6BE0@yahoo.com> There are others in the area, the ones I mentioned were the only ones I could recommend. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > CHECK: themitty.com has the host hotel by CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS. > > it is the Holiday Inn Express that Mike mentions. > > i understand that there is a large selection, but dont have a list. > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Munson > To: Mark J Bradakis ; FOT > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 11:52 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu > Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new > Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia > exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. > > Mike > From: Mark J > Bradakis > To: Friends of Triumph > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > What are > some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From cofrog at q.com Mon Mar 5 11:29:51 2012 From: cofrog at q.com (cofrog at q.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:29:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Gearbox Number Followup In-Reply-To: <734527664.240334.1330972155519.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <141375994.240367.1330972191772.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Thanks to all who responded. I figured it was an early TR4 gearbox but was confused as it had a short cover for the later clutch. Dan From BillDentin at aol.com Mon Mar 5 11:36:11 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:36:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Message-ID: <61ebb.83403bb.3c86619b@aol.com> Amici... While we have no first hand past experience for racing at Road Atlanta, Bob Wismer and I have made reservations at the Comfort Inn & Suites Near Lake Lanier. We understand it is about 18-20 minutes from the track. Bill Dentinger From rjohns at woh.rr.com Mon Mar 5 12:00:41 2012 From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:00:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Hotels Message-ID: <2E7B8E12070642299AEA9FD25ADFA506@Bucktailus> I ended up reserving through Travelocity in Gainesville at the Hilton Garden Inn. Bob Johns From jhhasty at gdhs.com Mon Mar 5 13:25:34 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1DC97B04934C4D5E89EF6787A2F0F382@gdhs.local> The H. I. Ex. Is full.....next exit south had a number of motels.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. 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On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. Mike From: Mark J Bradakis To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Mon Mar 5 17:36:34 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:36:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> Can you camp out at the track? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 17:54:56 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:54:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> Message-ID: <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our trips to the track. we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i have not checked. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: william r tobin To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Can you camp out at the track? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jason at multivintage.com Mon Mar 5 18:37:50 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:37:50 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 5 19:01:01 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 18:01:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1330999261.25834.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I sent my Mitty Registration in today - Joan and I will stay at the track. I like waking up to the sound of a race engine, and the smell of napalm. Dennis The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 19:05:26 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:05:26 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <607F0B16-3B06-47B6-BD02-FB3F0AF254D4@yahoo.com> That bringing in alcohol rule gets abused frequently! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. > But have never been there before. > The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires > and bringing in alcohol. > Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. > How does the beer thing work? > can this be true? > Please advise. > > Jason FGR. > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our >> trips >> to the track. >> >> we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i >> have not checked. >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: william r tobin >> To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph >> >> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >> Can you camp out at the track? >> Thanks, Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark J Bradakis" >> To: "Friends of Triumph" >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >>> What are some recommended places to stay in the area? >>> >>> mjb. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Mon Mar 5 19:11:31 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:11:31 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001101ccfb3e$74c407d0$5e4c1770$@rr.com> In my limited racing experience, the bench racing that occurs after dark at the track is most enjoyable. I had planned on camping with all the FOT folks that I have not had the pleasure of meeting. Glad to hear there are at least of few of you guys planning to rough it at the track. All of us TxFOT folks plan on camping as well. There might even be some beer hidden in the back of the suburban...or Bobby's blacked-out windowless shag-carpeted van. Speaking of staying at the track, will one of you more local guys have a grill at the track? I'd hate to drag my full size set-up all the way from Austin. Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:38 PM To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2 at austin.rr.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 19:18:57 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:18:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <001101ccfb3e$74c407d0$5e4c1770$@rr.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <001101ccfb3e$74c407d0$5e4c1770$@rr.com> Message-ID: <8CEC9569F0032D0-AC0-6FC3@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> wandering around the paddock in morning with a fresh cup of my own coffee is a very good experience Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Greg & Alison Blake To: 'Jason Ostrowski' ; 'Joe Alexander' Cc: FOT Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 8:11 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In my limited racing experience, the bench racing that occurs after dark at the track is most enjoyable. I had planned on camping with all the FOT folks that I have not had the pleasure of meeting. Glad to hear there are at least of few of you guys planning to rough it at the track. All of us TxFOT folks plan on camping as well. There might even be some beer hidden in the back of the suburban...or Bobby's blacked-out windowless shag-carpeted van. Speaking of staying at the track, will one of you more local guys have a grill at the track? I'd hate to drag my full size set-up all the way from Austin. Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:38 PM To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2 at austin.rr.com From Gt6steve at aol.com Sun Mar 4 14:29:39 2012 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 16:29:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] All-Triumph race at Willow Springs March 31 Message-ID: <1a098.3de6eb1d.3c8538c3@aol.com> That's pretty cool! I'd hoped to be there, now there's an extra incentive;-)) In a message dated 3/4/2012 1:27:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, colordog.1 at earthlink.net writes: Friends, As part of VARA's "High Desert Challenge" race weekend March 31-Apr 1, there will be an all-Triumph race in addition to the regular run-groups and 2-hour enduro. Just thought I'd put the word out in case some of you guys. I signed up for the enduro and will spend most of Saturday, March 31, racing around WSR! Alert the clubs, there will be a Triumph Corral for the street car folks. ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve at aol.com From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 6 08:17:39 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:17:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got the twin size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV loaded up with my Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my stealth guitar for howling at the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 to play $4 to shut the fudge up.... usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... Bobby Whitehead #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: william.tobin31 at verizon.net; mark at bradakis.com; FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 6:54:56 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our trips to the track. we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i have not checked. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: william r tobin To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Can you camp out at the track? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 6 08:19:14 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:19:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1331047154.27501.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> uh... BEER what? Hey I've hung with the 6pack crew there before as a spectator... the contact high was close to being inebriated ... Bobby ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 7:37:50 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From jkhagen at charter.net Tue Mar 6 09:38:38 2012 From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:38:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Message-ID: <202cf4b2.3bccdd.135e8e073e7.Webtop.49@charter.net> How special! On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > uh... BEER what? Hey I've hung with the 6pack crew there before as > a spectator... the contact high was close to being inebriated ... > > Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jason Ostrowski > To: Joe Alexander > Cc: FOT at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 7:37:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as > well. > But have never been there before. > The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against > Campfires > and bringing in alcohol. > Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. > How does the beer thing work? > can this be true? > Please advise. > > Jason FGR. > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on >> our >> trips >> to the track. >> >> we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, >> but i >> have not checked. >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: william r tobin >> To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph >> >> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >> Can you camp out at the track? >> Thanks, Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark J Bradakis" >> To: "Friends of Triumph" >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >>> What are some recommended places to stay in the area? >>> >>> mjb. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net From triosan at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 09:49:36 2012 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:49:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Anybody know if there are showers? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got the > twin > size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV loaded up with my > Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my stealth guitar for howling > at > the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 to play $4 to shut the fudge up.... > usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: william.tobin31 at verizon.net; mark at bradakis.com; FOT at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 6:54:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan at gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Mar 6 10:10:12 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:10:12 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There is a nice bathroom with a few showers in the main paddock area, close to the tower. Tony At 10:49 AM 3/6/2012, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: >Anybody know if there are showers? From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 6 10:19:52 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:19:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rd. Atl. Message-ID: <7F4F710F61CD4185AC2DB4AB79AC3180@gdhs.local> Don't know why, but every time I reply to questions about the track my response gets bounced because "it is too large" so I'll try a fresh string....there are showers in the original paddock on northeast side of front straight....don't know about the other paddock on southwest side, but I can't recall seeing any over there where I understand we are to be located. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. From triosan at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 12:26:24 2012 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:26:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Showers at the Mitty Message-ID: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley 11:24 AM (0 minutes ago) to Joe, Friends Careful Joe, I might run you out of water! Am coming in on Thursday evening, do you think I will be able to get into the campsite at about 8PM? Really look forward to this event, wish like hell I was racing! did my first track day of the year Saturday, but electrical gremlins kept me from getting very much time in. We have a new track just opening, my first time there is in two weeks, so hope to have all sorted by then. For any of you who care to look at the site it is called Ridge Motorsports Park. Runs up and down a ridge and has a somewhat Laguna like corkscrew going down. Here is a link: The *Ridge* Motorsports Park www.* ridge*motorsportspark.com/ -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Tue Mar 6 17:12:14 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 16:12:14 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] GT6 racer nor-cal on Craigslist Message-ID: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> http://bringatrailer.com/2012/03/06/1967-triumph-gt6-vintage-racer/ From dkettler1 at charter.net Tue Mar 6 19:08:56 2012 From: dkettler1 at charter.net (David Kettler) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:08:56 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Showers at the Mitty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chuck/Kathleen: Thanks for sharing this. Looks like a nice facility in a great area. I was surprised at not seeing guardrail or concrete barriers. Looks like some trees are in the runoff areas?? Dave Kettler -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 1:26 PM To: Joe Alexander ; Friends Subject: [Fot] Showers at the Mitty Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley 11:24 AM (0 minutes ago) to Joe, Friends Careful Joe, I might run you out of water! Am coming in on Thursday evening, do you think I will be able to get into the campsite at about 8PM? Really look forward to this event, wish like hell I was racing! did my first track day of the year Saturday, but electrical gremlins kept me from getting very much time in. We have a new track just opening, my first time there is in two weeks, so hope to have all sorted by then. For any of you who care to look at the site it is called Ridge Motorsports Park. Runs up and down a ridge and has a somewhat Laguna like corkscrew going down. Here is a link: The *Ridge* Motorsports Park www.* ridge*motorsportspark.com/ -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1 at charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4853 - Release Date: 03/05/12 From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Tue Mar 6 19:21:13 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 21:21:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6 racer nor-cal on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <119DC7E4-671F-4E4A-BCC4-435B7CBD4A6F@aol.com> Makes me wish I kept the gt6+ ex racer I saved from the scrap yard. I really wish I kept it. On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:12 PM, steve wrote: > http://bringatrailer.com/2012/03/06/1967-triumph-gt6-vintage-racer/ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com From mark at bradakis.com Tue Mar 6 19:40:27 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:40:27 -0700 Subject: [Fot] GT6 racer nor-cal on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <119DC7E4-671F-4E4A-BCC4-435B7CBD4A6F@aol.com> References: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <119DC7E4-671F-4E4A-BCC4-435B7CBD4A6F@aol.com> Message-ID: <4F56CA9B.2030600@bradakis.com> Looks nice, too bad it is about $12,994.32 more than I can afford right now. Of course, having a small, enclosed car like that might be a good way to motivate me to do something about my ever expanding waistline... mjb. From 4everglades at comcast.net Tue Mar 6 19:52:07 2012 From: 4everglades at comcast.net (4everglades at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 02:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheel Needed Message-ID: <633049220.2177406.1331088727922.JavaMail.root@sz0065a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I sat down to post an inquiry to see if anyone had a 13" x 6" Cosmic wheel to replace one of my set that was damaged in an accident with my Spitfire,and there was the post about the Craigs List GT- 6 with a complete set. I can't part with 12K so can anyone help me out with a single wheel or possible source. From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 6 09:15:02 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:15:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com><2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f><8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3D7E6FD963DF4E56B81302D4F46215E9@gdhs.local> Never had any problem with coolers and beer....I don't make fires on paved pit and paddock, but have seen charcoal grills etc. with no problems......don't know about the grass areas of the infield.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 8:38 PM To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, > but i have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.ne > > t > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 6 10:07:07 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:07:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com><2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f><8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes in the original paddock area.....not sure about the pro paddock across the track where I understand they plan to put all of us TR folks. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:50 AM To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Anybody know if there are showers? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got > the twin size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV > loaded up with my Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my > stealth guitar for howling at the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 > to play $4 to shut the fudge up.... > usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: william.tobin31 at verizon.net; mark at bradakis.com; FOT at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 6:54:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, > but i have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.ne > > t > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan at gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 07:34:59 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:34:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, From rikrock at live.com Wed Mar 7 08:25:14 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:25:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Vacuum System SCCA Message-ID: Just got this: x-store-info: sbevkl2QZR7OXo7WID5ZcdV2tiiWGqTnjvpvcDb633lOmLaZ5hEL/B8t2WYWD3ZHLv7yzJUMP7z3aqhQNe8w1ndGgyzvY6mgqXUYWxoPNWOxKYGdWztn5g== Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=fail (sender IP is 174.120.20.98) header.from=rmiles at scca.com; dkim=none header.d=scca.com; x-hmca=fail X-Message-Status: n:0:n X-SID-PRA: rmiles at scca.com X-SID-Result: Fail X-DKIM-Result: None X-AUTH-Result: FAIL X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MTtHRD0xO1NDTD0w X-Message-Info: NhFq/7gR1vTofWazeETSNzxNq1zItAR1UXAAc4Gt9cval14sKyYXM9GnyCWxQQf4BFo8Q89wecf2/V/6nFkB3PC1V7AweE85M9lRtXDoUlgHyxO6SkWFM9tf5df/hpD5 Received: from gator856.hostgator.com ([174.120.20.98]) by COL0-MC1-F32.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900); Wed, 7 Mar 2012 07:06:48 -0800 Received: from jbauer12 by gator856.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S5IS0-0004BJ-G4 for rikrock at live.com; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:06:48 -0600 To: rikrock at live.com Subject: SCCA CRB Letter #7312 Update X-PHP-Script: www.crbscca.com/boards/view details/index.php for 69.140.164.28 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rmiles at scca.com X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: InterAKT tNG mailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:06:48 -0600 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator856.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - live.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [713 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gator856.hostgator.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php /home/jbauer12/public_html/boards/view details/index.php X-Source-Dir: crbscca.com:/public_html/boards/view details X-Source-Auth: jbauer12 X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: amJhdWVyMTI7amJhdWVyMTI7Z2F0b3I4NTYuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Return-Path: jbauer12 at gator856.hostgator.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2012 15:06:48.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB734360:01CCFC73] rich rock, Your letter has been reviewed by the Club Racing Board. The response will be in an upcoming Fastrack. Your letter details are below: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Letter #7312 Title: vacuum system rule clarification/explanation request Request: I'm interested in knowing why the use of an engine vacuum system which connects to the exhaust system is prohibited   (page 100 GCR).  I've seen such systems in use on cars raced in other series.Thanks,Rich Rock BMR tech inspector ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Club Racing Board From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Mar 7 08:27:22 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 07:27:22 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheel Needed References: <633049220.2177406.1331088727922.JavaMail.root@sz0065a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <401166F7A1D34FAD8E3C33911D5906ED@Charly> http://www.cosmic-wheels.com/page.php?4 Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: <4everglades at comcast.net> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:52 PM Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheel Needed >I sat down to post an inquiry to see if anyone had a 13" x 6" Cosmic wheel >to replace one of my set that was damaged in an accident with my >Spitfire,and there was the post about the Craigs List GT- 6 with a complete >set. I can't part with 12K so can anyone help me out with a single wheel or >possible source. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Mar 7 08:55:25 2012 From: gasket.works at gte.net (gasket.works at gte.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:55:25 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> Why in the world would anyone want to use these? Mind you Mr. Pauter has nice products (I have a set of Pauter TR6 rods). But frankly, rods like this have absolutely no value. From all the negative feedback I have had in the past 1o+ years it seems like a waste of time and effort. Besides, it is a pain to figure out TDC. The math would say that the derivative of acceleration (jerk) is reduced at TDC and BDC and the wasted lateral side wall thrust is reduced leading to less internal piston wall heat production. Although the mid position piston speed remains unchanged. Go figure... Btw... These are short rods compared To others I know. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:34:59 To: Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net From jhhasty at gdhs.com Wed Mar 7 09:03:49 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:03:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Joe: Am sending you pictures of the 7" SCAT small block Chevy rods and JE pistions we are using. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From rikrock at live.com Wed Mar 7 09:10:41 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:10:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Vacuum System SCCA In-Reply-To: <8CECA9114792BA3-20A0-1E16@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> References: , <8CECA9114792BA3-20A0-1E16@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It's all the way down at the bottom of all that junk (which wasn't part of the email I got from SCCA) But if you can't find it, what the email said was that the CRB had reviewed the issue and that a response will be printed in an upcoming Fasttrack. (that's the SCCA rules newsletter) Rich Rock To: rikrock at live.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Vacuum System SCCA From: n197tr4 at cs.com Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:49:56 -0500 no text on the subject sent.... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Mar 7 09:21:29 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:21:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> <2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Mordy, For the benefit of the unwashed, were the "negative comments" you refer to related to Pauter rods or to 7 inch rods (in general)? I tend towards the comment referring to the rodd length, but I just wanted to be sure. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 09:24:25 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:24:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com><2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <8CECA95E541BE68-20A0-22F5@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> the length of the rod is the issue Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: gasket.works Cc: FOT Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Mordy, For the benefit of the unwashed, were the "negative comments" you refer to related to Pauter rods or to 7 inch rods (in general)? I tend towards the comment referring to the rodd length, but I just wanted to be sure. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Mar 7 09:31:07 2012 From: gasket.works at gte.net (gasket.works at gte.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:31:07 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Message-ID: <691577155-1331137866-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-716811067-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> To be clear... I have a very nice set of MR. Pauters rods (TR6). Well made and functional. Not one complaint. I have different Rods for Tr4. M ------Original Message------ From: Robert M. Lang To: Gasket works Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Sent: Mar 7, 2012 8:21 AM Mordy, For the benefit of the unwashed, were the "negative comments" you refer to related to Pauter rods or to 7 inch rods (in general)? I tend towards the comment referring to the rodd length, but I just wanted to be sure. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 7 09:48:44 2012 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:48:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Message-ID: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> The stock compression height is 2.0. There is room for the 7 inch rod, it will be right at the bottom of the oil ring groove, with a thin ring pack. The rod/stroke ratio isn't that bad on these engines but generally anything that reduces loads is a good thing... Glen -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42 am Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com From riverside at southslope.net Wed Mar 7 12:39:38 2012 From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:39:38 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <74F4BF80897E44F4B83232C493D656D3@rileyPC> Added dwell at TDC more than offsets the reduced dwell at BDC. Long rods also work on the crank at a better angle awhile after TDC. Smokey's rule was to cram in the longest rod possible. If someone has a contrary idea on the rod length issue, I would love to get clued in to it. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 10:48 AM To: n197tr4 at cs.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? The stock compression height is 2.0. There is room for the 7 inch rod, it will be right at the bottom of the oil ring groove, with a thin ring pack. The rod/stroke ratio isn't that bad on these engines but generally anything that reduces loads is a good thing... Glen -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42 am Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside at southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4855 - Release Date: 03/06/12 From barry at penybryn.ca Wed Mar 7 13:40:49 2012 From: barry at penybryn.ca (Barry Munson) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:40:49 -0700 Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks Message-ID: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> Amici - Has anyone had any experience these adjustable lever shocks? Thanks. Barry. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:21 PM To: barry at penybryn.ca Subject: Triump Lever shocks Barry, I attached a picture of the shocks. Only the knob on the valve has changed. Peter Thank you for asking about our adjustable Armstrong shocks. Having been in the remanufacturing business of Armstrong lever shocks for many, many years, we have had the opportunity to rebuild a few of the original Armstrong "Adjustable 22" externally adjustable shocks. You can find examples of these in some of the original special tuning parts manuals. Armstrong had different castings made for some of these models, but did not make them available for all of their various models of shocks. Because the body is somewhat larger and had a large adjusting knob, not all cars could be fitted with the "Adjustable 22" units. We have been able to use their same principles and apply them to a wider variety of lever shocks by employing an external and remotely mountable valve alleviating the need for new castings and fitment constraints.. The way the Adjustable 22's and our shocks work is by utilizing an extremely stiff modified main original "co-axial" valve assembly in the usual position, and providing a bypass circuit with a variable needle valve that allows adjustment of the volume of oil that passes through the co-axial main valve. (The "22" meant that Armstrong had 22 steps of adjustment.) Our valve is variable without steps, and can allow the shock to be locked solid without moving, to full, undampened movement. By machining the co-axial valve and replacing the springs with our custom made ones we succeed in providing a damping rate equivalent to full competition at 1-1/2 turns open of a potential 5 turns. The valve is of brass body full flow stainless steel needle construction. Connections between shock and valve are similar to brake hydraulic equipment. We've been able to test fit these on all of the models we offer to ensure accessibility and roadworthiness. Historically, shocks become less effective as the oil heats. Our experience has been at about 20 - 25 minutes of track work, the shocks lose their dampening. After several attempts, we are now using Redline's suspension oils, and have been very pleased with the performance, especially in this application. The modifications of the adjustable shocks are performed on our highly regarded remanufactured units. We install sleeve bearings in the bodies, install stainless shaft sleeves, and install radial lip oil seals. Pistons and bodies are selected for their proven reliability using the best combinations. Each order is custom made so that we can consider your intended use, as well as any additional equipment you may have that would affect the mounting of the valve. We also like to know if the ride height is significantly changed as we can ensure the pistons are working in their mid-range most of the time. Pricing Rears are $149.00 each Usual core charge deposits of $30.00 apply. Please let me know if you have any questions. We are always open to suggestions. Thanks again. Peter Caldwell Peter Caldwell World Wide Auto Parts of Madison 2517 Seiferth Rd. Madison WI USA 53716-3302 US WATS (800) 362-1025 (608) 223-9400 (608) 223-9403 fax www.worldwideimportautoparts.com www.nosimport.com From igofaster at att.net Wed Mar 7 14:44:18 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:44:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] $4.00 fee In-Reply-To: <3f3ca.21fc42e1.3c87867b@cs.com> References: <3f3ca.21fc42e1.3c87867b@cs.com> Message-ID: <1331156658.40893.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> well... I guess the malcontents have been sufficiently warned... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "N197TR4 at cs.com" To: igofaster at att.net Sent: Tue, March 6, 2012 9:25:47 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? This information should be posted on the FOT website as a warning. > yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got the > twin size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV loaded up with > my Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my stealth guitar for > howling at the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 to play $4 to shut the fudge > > up.... usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ > > From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 15:57:48 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:57:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP NEWS JERRY BARKER Message-ID: <8CECACCDA10FF3E-24B4-5BAB@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> If you were at Laguna Seca, you saw a dramatic drive to the finish line by Jerry Barker and his Herald. Jerry Called today and announced his plan to be at the MITTY.....with his SPITFIRE 1500. The same Spitfire he won the SCCA RUNOFFS IN 1980. That's HISTORY. He is also bringing the KASTNER CUP with him, as he was the recipient last year. I love it when a plan comes together. Marty, you can add Jerry's name to the shirt. He has his entry in. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Mar 7 16:12:30 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:12:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> Message-ID: I had looked at them once and it seemed they had a tube or something that was remotely controlled. I think I decided to not get them because it was going to cost close to $200 each by the time I got them in my hand. Maybe I should look at them again. Who's first you or me? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Munson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks > Amici - Has anyone had any experience these adjustable lever shocks? > Thanks. > Barry. > > To: barry at penybryn.ca > Subject: Triump Lever shocks > > Barry, > I attached a picture of the shocks. Only the knob on the > valve has changed. Peter > > Thank you for asking about our adjustable Armstrong shocks. > > Having been in the remanufacturing business of Armstrong lever > shocks for many, many years, we have had the opportunity to rebuild a few > of > the original Armstrong "Adjustable 22" externally adjustable shocks. You > can > find examples of these in some of the original special tuning parts > manuals. > Armstrong had different castings made for some of these models, but did > not > make them available for all of their various models of shocks. Because the > body is somewhat larger and had a large adjusting knob, not all cars could > be fitted with the "Adjustable 22" units. > > We have been able to use their same principles and apply them to a > wider variety of lever shocks by employing an external and remotely > mountable valve alleviating the need for new castings and fitment > constraints.. The way the Adjustable 22's and our shocks work is by > utilizing an extremely stiff modified main original "co-axial" > valve assembly in the usual position, and providing a bypass circuit with > a > variable needle valve that allows adjustment of the volume of oil that > passes through the co-axial main valve. (The "22" meant that Armstrong had > 22 steps of adjustment.) Our valve is variable without steps, and can > allow > the shock to be locked solid without moving, to full, undampened movement. > By machining the co-axial valve and replacing the springs with our custom > made ones we succeed in providing a damping rate equivalent to full > competition at 1-1/2 turns open of a potential 5 turns. > > The valve is of brass body full flow stainless steel needle > construction. Connections between shock and valve are similar to brake > hydraulic equipment. We've been able to test fit these on all of the > models > we offer to ensure accessibility and roadworthiness. > > Historically, shocks become less effective as the oil heats. > Our experience has been at about 20 - 25 minutes of track work, the shocks > lose their dampening. After several attempts, we are now using Redline's > suspension oils, and have been very pleased with the performance, > especially > in this application. > > The modifications of the adjustable shocks are performed on our > highly regarded remanufactured units. We install sleeve bearings in the > bodies, install stainless shaft sleeves, and install radial lip oil seals. > Pistons and bodies are selected for their proven reliability using the > best > combinations. > > Each order is custom made so that we can consider your intended > use, as well as any additional equipment you may have that would affect > the > mounting of the valve. We also like to know if the ride height is > significantly changed as we can ensure the pistons are working in their > mid-range most of the time. > > Pricing > > Rears are $149.00 each > > Usual core charge deposits of $30.00 apply. > > Please let me know if you have any questions. We are always open > to > suggestions. > > Thanks again. > Peter Caldwell From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 16:31:37 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 18:31:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks In-Reply-To: References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> Message-ID: <8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> uncle jack had them....he seemed ok with them. Tony might be able to add more insight. while not strictly legal, i know, we ended up with RATCOs Tube shock conversion and are very happy with it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Charly Mitchel To: Barry Munson ; fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks I had looked at them once and it seemed they had a tube or something that was remotely controlled. I think I decided to not get them because it was going to cost close to $200 each by the time I got them in my hand. Maybe I should look at them again. Who's first you or me? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 From gasket.works at gte.net Thu Mar 8 07:58:17 2012 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 06:58:17 -0800 Subject: [Fot] 7" RODS? In-Reply-To: <74F4BF80897E44F4B83232C493D656D3@rileyPC> References: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> <74F4BF80897E44F4B83232C493D656D3@rileyPC> Message-ID: <68E14A1F-AF72-4E76-88FC-6897CDCBF75C@gte.net> To give an idea of the magnitude of the long rod piston dwell near tdc.... I have heard that the 8 degrees crank angle btdc and 8 deg Atdc the piston moves perhaps a few thousands. Rumor has it That the piston travels so little -one may think the crankshaft and piston are not really connected @ that sweet spot. On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:39 AM, wrote: > Added dwell at TDC more than offsets the reduced dwell at BDC. > Long rods also work on the crank at a better angle awhile after TDC. > > Smokey's rule was to cram in the longest rod possible. If someone > has a contrary idea on the rod length issue, I would love to get > clued in to it. > > art de armond > > -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 10:48 AM > To: n197tr4 at cs.com ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? > > The stock compression height is 2.0. > There is room for the 7 inch rod, it will be right at the bottom of the oil > ring groove, with a thin ring pack. > The rod/stroke ratio isn't that bad on these engines but generally anything > that reduces loads is a good thing... > Glen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Alexander > To: fot > Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42 am > Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? > > > Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? > > > > This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR > > > > He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. > > > > TIA. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Styduhar > > To: Joe Alexander > > Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am > > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > > > > > > > By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've > > been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco > > pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge > > Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find > any > > specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think > > it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod > > will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but > > Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact > area. > > What do you think? > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > > > John, > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside at southslope.net > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4855 - Release Date: 03/06/12 _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 8 08:02:47 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:02:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks In-Reply-To: <8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> <8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I must be barking up the wrong tree trying to stay within the 1972 SCCA rules. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:32 PM To: charly at mitchelplumbing.com; barry at penybryn.ca; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks uncle jack had them....he seemed ok with them. Tony might be able to add more insight. while not strictly legal, i know, we ended up with RATCOs Tube shock conversion and are very happy with it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Charly Mitchel To: Barry Munson ; fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks I had looked at them once and it seemed they had a tube or something that was remotely controlled. I think I decided to not get them because it was going to cost close to $200 each by the time I got them in my hand. Maybe I should look at them again. Who's first you or me? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 8 08:39:22 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:39:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Triumph Lever shocks In-Reply-To: References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca><8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECB58C4A2B006-2878-4616@webmail-d133.sysops.aol.com> I opened the door on tube shocks and drew attention to myself. Didnt mean to. It is my understanding that the 1963 GCR in SCCA allowed tube shock conversions, but have never researched it myself. Scroll down to see someone who did research it. I shouldnt have suggested that my conversion was 'illegal'. I dont really know. Anyway, as a non-organization of non-rules, we are self policing. So it is left to the sanctioning body and their tech folks to determine was is right. Good time to mention: One of the factors in determining the KASTNER CUP recipient is TRIUMPH preparation to period specifications, during Kas' regime. Note the word recipient as the 'winner' might be avoided in this case. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Joe Alexander wrote:while not strictly legal, i know, we ended up with RATCOs tube shock conversion. THEN I RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING............ If you look in the 63 SCCA GCR, you will see tube shock conversion as an accepted mod for the TR4 in Production class. I checked that out before I bought my car, since my car had a tube shock conversion. It was Bill Dentinger that pointed me in the right direction to find that in the GCR. From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Mar 8 10:24:47 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:24:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP NEWS JERRY BARKER References: <8CECACCDA10FF3E-24B4-5BAB@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5861E4BCC9E748E0B0127C3CF58A10A5@TRIUMPH.local> I just added Jerry to our list at http://www.fot-racing.com/feature/2012mitty/participants.htm I am still waiting for HSR's list of registered Triumph entries, and will edit the list with that information! We need to finalize this list for printing the t-shirts this weekend, so any assistance on getting it right will be appreciated! If you are not on the list and should be, email me or Marty. If you are on the list and should not be, we need to know that too! Cheers Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP NEWS JERRY BARKER > Jerry Called today and announced his plan to be at the MITTY.....with his > SPITFIRE 1500. The same Spitfire he won the SCCA RUNOFFS IN 1980. That's > HISTORY. From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Thu Mar 8 11:02:45 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:02:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <83A00A96E07D46A2982E86311A669C56@Charly> Amici, After having a long conversation with Peter Caldwell peter at nosimport.com of World Wide Auto Parts I'd like to nominate him for the FoT. He's been very dedicated to developing adjustable racing shocks for British cars, also remanufacturing the original lever action shocks for Triumphs and other British cars, is a member of the six pack and all around supports our Triumph industry. BTW, he is also involved in autocross etc. Do I hear a second for his nomination? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 His business information is: Peter Caldwell World Wide Auto Parts of Madison 2517 Seiferth Rd. Madison WI USA 53716-3302 US WATS (800) 362-1025 (608) 223-9400 (608) 223-9403 fax www.worldwideimportautoparts.com www.nosimport.com From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu Mar 8 11:09:57 2012 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:09:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <5dc3de.f5f.135f380c657.Webtop.7@optonline.net> Second! Welcome Peter! On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > Amici, > After having a long conversation with Peter Caldwell > peter at nosimport.com of > World Wide Auto Parts I'd like to nominate him for the FoT. He's been > very > dedicated to developing adjustable racing shocks for British cars, > also > remanufacturing the original lever action shocks for Triumphs and > other > British cars, is a member of the six pack and all around supports our > Triumph > industry. BTW, he is also involved in autocross etc. > Do I hear a second for his nomination? > > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > > His business information is: > > Peter Caldwell > World Wide Auto Parts of Madison > 2517 Seiferth Rd. > Madison WI USA 53716-3302 > US WATS (800) 362-1025 > (608) 223-9400 > (608) 223-9403 fax > > www.worldwideimportautoparts.com > www.nosimport.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 8 11:26:41 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 13:26:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <5dc3de.f5f.135f380c657.Webtop.7@optonline.net> References: <5dc3de.f5f.135f380c657.Webtop.7@optonline.net> Message-ID: <8CECB70243FE089-870-92F8@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> well, he is from Wisconsin...that's good! he is quite resourceful...so he is a resource. he is also a member of British Motor Trade Association....of course I think that is an attribute Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Todd Redmond To: charly Cc: FOT at autox.team.net FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:16 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Second! Welcome Peter! On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > Amici, > After having a long conversation with Peter Caldwell > peter at nosimport.com of > World Wide Auto Parts I'd like to nominate him for the FoT. He's been > very > dedicated to developing adjustable racing shocks for British cars, > also > remanufacturing the original lever action shocks for Triumphs and > other > British cars, is a member of the six pack and all around supports our > Triumph > industry. BTW, he is also involved in autocross etc. > Do I hear a second for his nomination? > > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > > His business information is: > > Peter Caldwell > World Wide Auto Parts of Madison > 2517 Seiferth Rd. > Madison WI USA 53716-3302 > US WATS (800) 362-1025 > (608) 223-9400 > (608) 223-9403 fax > > www.worldwideimportautoparts.com > www.nosimport.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 15:13:59 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:13:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> References: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: My version of the race weekend at TWS: http://youtu.be/w-Va9y2zprc Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red On Mar 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > Here is a link to one of the group 4 races. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvDLoYZpko&feature=g-upl&context=G2465543AUA > AAAAAAAAA > > Enjoy, I surely did. > > BTW... I spoke to the Vete driver after the race about the yellow colored > thing waiving in turns 1-2 and 3. I also laughed with Duncan that my little > hand wave reminded him not to pass under yellow. Great weekend all in all > just missing Red No. 14. > > See yall at the Mitty. > > Greg From jason at multivintage.com Thu Mar 8 18:48:11 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 19:48:11 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Cool footage....Thanks! It is interesting to have seen both videos. For whatever reason, even though Greg finished in front. Duncan's footage is comparatively "faster looking" I wonder if that is a matter of camera type or resolution quality. In any case... way to go guys. Indeed the Texas FoT contingent is flying our flag high. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > My version of the race weekend at TWS: > > http://youtu.be/w-Va9y2zprc > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red > > > On Mar 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > > > Here is a link to one of the group 4 races. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvDLoYZpko&feature=g-upl&context=G2465543AUA > > AAAAAAAAA > > > > Enjoy, I surely did. > > > > BTW... I spoke to the Vete driver after the race about the yellow > colored > > thing waiving in turns 1-2 and 3. I also laughed with Duncan that my > little > > hand wave reminded him not to pass under yellow. Great weekend all in > all > > just missing Red No. 14. > > > > See yall at the Mitty. > > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From mark at bradakis.com Thu Mar 8 23:36:33 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 23:36:33 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <83A00A96E07D46A2982E86311A669C56@Charly> References: <83A00A96E07D46A2982E86311A669C56@Charly> Message-ID: <4F59A4F1.2010200@bradakis.com> Okay, I added Peter the Parts Pimp to the FOT list. Shocking, I know. mjb. From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 07:24:58 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:24:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Message-ID: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. Once we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a pine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He will be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 more with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in replacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy duty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, so he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 9 07:42:18 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:42:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust Message-ID: <20120309144218.664452E0A9@bradakis.com> Team.Net has been around a while. People join, people leave, an ebb and flow of enthusiasts over the years. Some leave a mark that will not be soon forgotten. Steve Laifman passed away, a stalwart on the Tigers list. We had Fred Thomas on Triumphs, Frank on Spridgets. Uncle Jack was a stalwart on the vintage racing scene with his immaculately prepared Triumphs. As I've mentioned before one of my least favorite tasks is removing someone from the lists as they depart. I want to add them back. I want to keep them alive in our hearts, in our minds, in our web browsers. We, as a community of kindred spirits need to show our respect, admiration and appreciation. Team.Net is currently in a bit of disarray as I work on updating, upgrading and unfortunetly upending various services. In the midst of this cloud of digital dust a new project comes to mind - a memorial page. A place to gather stories, pictures, quips and quotes about those who have touched us all. Stay tuned, there will be requests for stuff to fill these soon to be created web pages. mjb. From fasttrs at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 08:29:44 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:29:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust In-Reply-To: <20120309144218.664452E0A9@bradakis.com> References: <20120309144218.664452E0A9@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1331306984.23033.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> An excellent idea Mark! ________________________________ From: Mark J Bradakis To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:42 AM Subject: [Fot] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust Team.Net has been around a while. People join, people leave, an ebb and flow of enthusiasts over the years. Some leave a mark that will not be soon forgotten. Steve Laifman passed away, a stalwart on the Tigers list. We had Fred Thomas on Triumphs, Frank on Spridgets. Uncle Jack was a stalwart on the vintage racing scene with his immaculately prepared Triumphs. As I've mentioned before one of my least favorite tasks is removing someone from the lists as they depart. I want to add them back. I want to keep them alive in our hearts, in our minds, in our web browsers. We, as a community of kindred spirits need to show our respect, admiration and appreciation. Team.Net is currently in a bit of disarray as I work on updating, upgrading and unfortunetly upending various services. In the midst of this cloud of digital dust a new project comes to mind - a memorial page. A place to gather stories, pictures, quips and quotes about those who have touched us all. Stay tuned, there will be requests for stuff to fill these soon to be created web pages. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From malaboge at aol.com Fri Mar 9 09:17:11 2012 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:17:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> Fellow motor mounties... Here's something i did ages ago and have never had a mount go "south" since...and even if it did, it wouldn't matter much other than the fact that you'll prolly get some additional vibrations. Drill two holes down thru the metal plate directly below the existing two holes for the trans mount. Make the holes maybe a quarter inch bigger in diameter than the bolt that holds the trans to the mount. Now get two new longer bolts, you'll have to measure the length but its prolly 'bout 3"-4" long. Drop the new bolts down thru the trans, mount and lower plate. Run a nut up against the bottom of the mount so that the trans is bolted to the mount as usual. Now put a large washer or two on the end of the bolt that is stickin out thru the plate. Use a nylock nut on the end and just tighten it so that the washers touch the plate. Now if the mount goes away (yeah like that ever happens) the worst that will happen is that the bolts will allow the trans to move about an eighth of an inch or so. This will even help save the radiator if that tire wall jumps out directly in front of you! mounted in nor cal.... Nick -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. nce we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a ine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He ill be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 ore with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in eplacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy uty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, o he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander . R. E. 45 1st Street esup, Iowa 50648 19.464.4711 (cell) 197tr4 at cs.com ______________________________________________ From tr4racing at googlemail.com Fri Mar 9 10:05:30 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 18:05:30 +0100 Subject: [Fot] What do I do for profession? In-Reply-To: <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001701ccfe16$d6bd2f40$84378dc0$@com> I'm a professional hand rail shaker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHPTJR6fZo Cheers :-)) From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 13:03:18 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:03:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> yup, we've done that too. would like to have a nice tidy package that does it all well and be done with it. some have hardmounted the tailshaft, but we'd rather not do that, for a number of reasons. bring on a thread here, we may learn something to our benefit. thank's nick....... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: n197tr4 ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:17 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Fellow motor mounties... Here's something i did ages ago and have never had a mount go "south" since...and even if it did, it wouldn't matter much other than the fact that you'll prolly get some additional vibrations. Drill two holes down thru the metal plate directly below the existing two holes for the trans mount. Make the holes maybe a quarter inch bigger in diameter than the bolt that holds the trans to the mount. Now get two new longer bolts, you'll have to measure the length but its prolly 'bout 3"-4" long. Drop the new bolts down thru the trans, mount and lower plate. Run a nut up against the bottom of the mount so that the trans is bolted to the mount as usual. Now put a large washer or two on the end of the bolt that is stickin out thru the plate. Use a nylock nut on the end and just tighten it so that the washers touch the plate. Now if the mount goes away (yeah like that ever happens) the worst that will happen is that the bolts will allow the trans to move about an eighth of an inch or so. This will even help save the radiator if that tire wall jumps out directly in front of you! mounted in nor cal.... Nick -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. Once we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a pine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He will be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 more with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in replacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy duty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, so he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Mar 9 14:04:44 2012 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:04:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS yup, we've done that too. would like to have a nice tidy package that does it all well and be done with it. some have hardmounted the tailshaft, but we'd rather not do that, for a number of reasons. bring on a thread here, we may learn something to our benefit. thank's nick....... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: n197tr4 ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:17 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Fellow motor mounties... Here's something i did ages ago and have never had a mount go "south" since...and even if it did, it wouldn't matter much other than the fact that you'll prolly get some additional vibrations. Drill two holes down thru the metal plate directly below the existing two holes for the trans mount. Make the holes maybe a quarter inch bigger in diameter than the bolt that holds the trans to the mount. Now get two new longer bolts, you'll have to measure the length but its prolly 'bout 3"-4" long. Drop the new bolts down thru the trans, mount and lower plate. Run a nut up against the bottom of the mount so that the trans is bolted to the mount as usual. Now put a large washer or two on the end of the bolt that is stickin out thru the plate. Use a nylock nut on the end and just tighten it so that the washers touch the plate. Now if the mount goes away (yeah like that ever happens) the worst that will happen is that the bolts will allow the trans to move about an eighth of an inch or so. This will even help save the radiator if that tire wall jumps out directly in front of you! mounted in nor cal.... Nick -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. Once we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a pine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He will be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 more with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in replacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy duty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, so he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 14:30:58 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:30:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Glen, Yup, we've done that, too, and it works. Yet, we'd like to take a step further. Greg Solow interjects some thoughtful observations that may be incorporated into the design, eventually.. Keep the comments and interest coming....we have about 8 responses in about 4 hours. There must be an interest. There seems to be an opportunity to relieve some stresses from the gearbox....stresses that have been known to crack bellhousings. Stresses that might not be very good for the gearbox internals, either. Time to think outside the GEARBOX, as it were. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 To: n197tr4 ; malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen From riverside at southslope.net Fri Mar 9 15:19:28 2012 From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:19:28 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com><8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com><8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On my TR3 racer we rigged up some long bolts, big flat washers, and some old valve springs to make a mount that allowed some vertical movement in response to twists. light, simple,easily disassembled when needed. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 3:30 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Glen, Yup, we've done that, too, and it works. Yet, we'd like to take a step further. Greg Solow interjects some thoughtful observations that may be incorporated into the design, eventually.. Keep the comments and interest coming....we have about 8 responses in about 4 hours. There must be an interest. There seems to be an opportunity to relieve some stresses from the gearbox....stresses that have been known to crack bellhousings. Stresses that might not be very good for the gearbox internals, either. Time to think outside the GEARBOX, as it were. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 To: n197tr4 ; malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside at southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4860 - Release Date: 03/09/12 From tr4racing at googlemail.com Fri Mar 9 15:31:02 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 23:31:02 +0100 Subject: [Fot] What do I do for profession? In-Reply-To: <316C7A82-B2D4-4C78-9546-ED20D6B02114@charter.net> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <001701ccfe16$d6bd2f40$84378dc0$@com> <316C7A82-B2D4-4C78-9546-ED20D6B02114@charter.net> Message-ID: <000301ccfe44$50467dd0$f0d37970$@com> Well, if a hardhat and an orange vest is giving some kind of authority, then I should switch over to shake women's boobs. I'm a professional boobs shaker then *lol* -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jerry Barr [mailto:jerrybarr at charter.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Mdrz 2012 22:20 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] What do I do for profession? If he were wearing a hardhat and a blaze orange vest he could do that anywhere in the U.S. without anyone asking why he was shaking hand rails. On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:05 AM, MadMarx wrote: > I'm a professional hand rail shaker: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHPTJR6fZo > > Cheers :-)) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr at charter.net From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Fri Mar 9 15:46:49 2012 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:46:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Formula 1 availability?? Message-ID: <001e01ccfe46$84013820$8c03a860$@rr.com> Perhaps I am the only one that only keeps Speed Channel for the F1 telecasts. If I could find another source I would drop that channel like a hot brick. With all the streaming available I'm surprised it's not available in that format. Unfortunately all the programming I liked like "Legends of Motorsport" and some of the British factory films has gone away in favor of worthless dribble loaded with obnoxious commercials. Back in the day of Speedvision they even had vintage racing along with lots of rally and European/Australian racing. There was also the "Drive-In Theater" which showed campy "car" related movies hosted by Bruce Dern. Okay, that's my opinion. Anyone discover an alternative way to receive F1 and auto related programming? I refuse to pay for HD to get Octane Discovery. Thanks Russ From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 9 16:00:29 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:00:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR4 Pinion Oil Seal Message-ID: <1331334029.897.YahooMailRC@web181316.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> A M I C I After all of these years I just noticed that Moss lists two different oil seals for the TR4 rear end pinion. One for the IRS diff and another for the solid axle. Does anyone know what the difference is? The seal that I use measures 1.500x2.687x.500 - not even sure which one it is. Dennis From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 17:39:07 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:39:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LAST, LAST CALL FOR MITTY SHIRTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am submitting the shirt order Sunday March 11th so you have until tomorrow to get your Kastner Cup or FOT shirt orders in to me. If you have a shirt on order currently you would have received an acknowledgement email from me. If you are not sure feel free to drop me a line and I will check. Kastner Cup drivers names on the shirt. We need to finalize this by tomorrow also. All the names that are currently going on the shirt are listed on the FOT-racing.com web site http://www.fot-racing.com/feature/2012mitty/participants.htm . Thanks Henry. If you are planning on racing and your name is not on the list let me know. If your name is on the list and you know you will not be attending also let me know so we can make the text bigger for those attending. Right now it looks like we will be making around 180 total shirts. The Kastner Cup shirts should be a pretty neat souvenir for this fantastic event. Marty From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 08:36:22 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:36:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil Message-ID: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... thoughts? Bobby Whitehead From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 10:28:42 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:28:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil Message-ID: <1331400522.41752.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 9:36:22 AM Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... thoughts? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From sjanzen at me.com Sat Mar 10 10:52:52 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:52:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: <1331400522.41752.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331400522.41752.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0571021D-3039-4382-82E6-26D137A72B38@me.com> One of the weak points of the straight-six engine is the inadequate castings that some of these bolts thread into, combined with sheet metal timing covers and oil pans that aren't flat and don't stay that way. Having been there, done that, on my engine all the threaded holes into that crappy casting - the one below the front main bearing - are now heli-coiled, bolts have been carefully calibrated to make sure they don't bottom out and ruin the threads before the cover or pan are tight, make sure that the casting is flush with the block and engine plate when installed, etc. I use copious amounts of Permatex ultrablack on the pan and timing covers, combined with the thick gaskets. I'm not sure the thick one is really necessary at the timing cover - more important that the cover is flat and not distorted at the bolt holes - otherwise the assembly cinches tight and you still have daylight in between the bolt holes! Try the timing cover first, but then be potentially ready to pull the whole f-ing mess just to change the oil pan gasket! The whole assembly requires a lot of fiddling, and over-tightening stuff often makes it worse. On Mar 10, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 9:36:22 AM Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... thoughts? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 11:03:41 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:03:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1331402622.84810.YahooMailRC@web180819.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Its one of Joes.. I think my culprit is the thin gasket behind the engine plate matted to the cast iron block.. Bobby ________________________________ From: Yellow04 To: Bobby Whitehead Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 11:51:27 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil What front engine plate is on there now, oem or Joe's? The TR4 engine uses the same thin paper gasket with no goo and seals fine. From gaf3 at charter.net Sat Mar 10 13:11:43 2012 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:11:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F5BB57F.7050202@charter.net> Fastest way to find the source is to clean off the area with brake clean and let it flash off and dry out. Spray the area with a white talc, preferably an aerosol or just use baby powder. Start the engine and immediately look for the start of the wet spot. This is an easy fast way to trace your leaks and cheaper than a black light and leak check fluid. Glenn On 3/10/2012 10:36 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking > of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from > the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process > (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt > to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, > not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I > didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically > removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy > thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not > slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker > gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw > up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. > It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights > realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission > to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... > thoughts? Bobby Whitehead From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 13:41:18 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:41:18 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: <4F5BB57F.7050202@charter.net> References: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4F5BB57F.7050202@charter.net> Message-ID: Bobby, Or if you can obtain an aerosol can of "developer" (used with dye penetrant products to make cracks more visible) I would use that. It's like talc in a liquid carrier. Oil leaks will show up clearly if you've already degreased the thing before spraying on the developer and letting it dry. Duncan (Texas) On Mar 10, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: > Fastest way to find the source is to clean off the area with brake clean and let it flash off and dry out. > Spray the area with a white talc, preferably an aerosol or just use baby powder. > Start the engine and immediately look for the start of the wet spot. > This is an easy fast way to trace your leaks and cheaper than a black light and leak check fluid. > Glenn From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 21:39:26 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:39:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer Message-ID: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To clarify my dilemma there was no issue with the ARP cover from Joe... some dummy at the machine shop took a longer bolt on assembly and torqued it into the threaded ARP allow cover. The longer bolt was torqued till it came into contact with what I believe is the front main seal... There is NO issue with Joe A. or the ARP cover,,, dummies at the machine shop, well, we've all been there I guess... sorry Joe... I owe you a Neil Diamond song on my stealth guitar... wait... I'm suffering sleep deprivation here... I'll play you something original..... see you soon! Bobby From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 11 06:09:20 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer In-Reply-To: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CECD96ECBD7805-D90-7085@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> I really like Neil Diamond.... :-) But what's an ARP ALLOW COVER? Bobby, dont answer that! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Cc: Joe Alexander Sent: Sat, Mar 10, 2012 10:39 pm Subject: Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer To clarify my dilemma there was no issue with the ARP cover from Joe... some dummy at the machine shop took a longer bolt on assembly and torqued it into the threaded ARP allow cover. The longer bolt was torqued till it came into contact with what I believe is the front main seal... There is NO issue with Joe A. or the ARP cover,,, dummies at the machine shop, well, we've all been there I guess... sorry Joe... I owe you a Neil Diamond song on my stealth guitar... wait... I'm suffering sleep deprivation here... I'll play you something original..... see you soon! Bobby From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 11 10:55:58 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:55:58 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer In-Reply-To: <8CECD96ECBD7805-D90-7085@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> References: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CECD96ECBD7805-D90-7085@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4F5CD91E.6060003@bradakis.com> Joe Alexander wrote: > I really like Neil Diamond.... :-) > > But what's an ARP ALLOW COVER? > > Just a simple typo - I'm sure he meant AARP ! mjb. From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 11 14:54:26 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:54:26 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Fot] [CWE] Western FOT, who's going to Willow? Message-ID: <29951710.1331499267183.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> /local/mailman/lynxXXXXt0nbb9: Permission denied From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 11 15:24:05 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:24:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Fot] Progress, of sorts Message-ID: <20120311212405.32D582E05D@bradakis.com> Team.Net is working a tad bit better this weekend. At least now when you use the archive or forum links below you don't get a blank stare. The archives are more important, I'll work on them some more tonight. Right now it is a pleasant spring afternoon and my little truck is in serious need of attention, back outside for a while. mjb. From sgroh1 at comcast.net Mon Mar 12 05:58:27 2012 From: sgroh1 at comcast.net (sgroh1 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Formula 1 availability?? In-Reply-To: <001e01ccfe46$84013820$8c03a860$@rr.com> Message-ID: <733735040.183046.1331553507660.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> You're certainly not alone there, Russ.B I'm to the point where I now toggle to Versus before Speed Channel.B Maybe it's the parent company ESPN that dictates the mindless fodder like Dumbest Stuff on Wheels -B Speed Channel's B now the Dumbest Stuff on T elevision. PLEASE bring back Legends of Motorsport and archival footage programs from BBC, BP, Shell, let's hear from Murray Walker and Stirling and Alan de C adenet - I'll even look foerward to hearing Sam Posey.B Anything but the dumbed-down un-leaded crap that is on day after day after day.B But don't get me started.... I've actually found some fabulous stuff on YouTube.B The sights and sounds of Jimmy ClarkB flying through the forest at the old Nurburgring, Jackie Oliver at the Glen in the rain , or Group C at Spa.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spitfire Racing" To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 5:46:49 PM Subject: [Fot] Formula 1 availability?? Perhaps I am the only one that only keeps Speed Channel for the F1 telecasts. If I could find another source I would drop that channel like a hot brick. With all the streaming available I'm surprised it's not available in that format. Unfortunately all the programming I liked like "Legends of Motorsport" and some of the British factory films has gone away in favor of worthless dribble loaded with obnoxious commercials. Back in the day of Speedvision they even had vintage racing along with lots of rally and European/Australian racing. There was also the "Drive-In Theater" which showed campy "car" related movies hosted by Bruce Dern. Okay, that's my opinion. B Anyone discover an alternative way to receive F1 and auto related programming? I refuse to pay for HD to get Octane Discovery. Thanks B Russ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sgroh1 at comcast.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 07:13:03 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:13:03 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I will be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not work. Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. Thanks, Marty From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Mon Mar 12 08:09:12 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:09:12 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Battery References: Message-ID: Hi Marty, Jegs, Summitt, and others sell battery boxes . I think some guys use boxes from marine/boat suppliers. Mine's a metal box bolted to the floor behind the RR wheel. With a bolt on lid. I'm thinking about making one out of aluminum and TIG welding it together. I bought a Lincoln TIG welder a while ago. And took an advanced welding class to learn how to use it! Let me know how you make out. Bill PS, I got the package. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "marty sukey" To: "FOT" Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:13 AM Subject: [Fot] Battery > Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I > will > be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done > anything > creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not > work. > Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. > > Thanks, > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From brad.kahler at 141.com Mon Mar 12 08:10:01 2012 From: brad.kahler at 141.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:10:01 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Stahl header Message-ID: Amici, Typically when I install a new engine in Susan's spitfire the Stahl header is setting in place inside the frame rails and I slide the engine and transmission into place while manipulating the header to allow for clearance. This time around I would like to have the header already installed on the engine and slide the engine with header and transmission into place as a unit. Can anyone confirm (or deny) that this approach will work with a Stahl header? Thanks, Brad From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 08:38:54 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:38:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <607F9766-93C8-4D04-B67F-F88707DBBCD4@yahoo.com> Braille makes all kinds of lightweight batteries. I dropped 22 pounds in my car by installing a 2015. I know of several SCCA racers that use them with no alternator. I will used an outside starter battery from the grid to save reserve power in case I spin and kill the engine, BTDT. They are also AGM so can be mounted in any position and with some race rules don't have to be in a non conductive box just have the terminals well protected. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2012, at 8:13 AM, marty sukey wrote: > Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I will > be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything > creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not work. > Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. > > Thanks, > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From fpspitfire at comcast.net Mon Mar 12 08:52:15 2012 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (Aaron Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Battery In-Reply-To: <607F9766-93C8-4D04-B67F-F88707DBBCD4@yahoo.com> References: <607F9766-93C8-4D04-B67F-F88707DBBCD4@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ECB1AA-6DCD-4643-9DE1-561E7425E88E@comcast.net> Braille here as well. With a jumper batter for starting in the paddock and grid. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:38, Mike Munson wrote: > Braille makes all kinds of lightweight batteries. I dropped 22 pounds in my > car by installing a 2015. I know of several SCCA racers that use them with no > alternator. I will used an outside starter battery from the grid to save > reserve power in case I spin and kill the engine, BTDT. They are also AGM so > can be mounted in any position and with some race rules don't have to be in a > non conductive box just have the terminals well protected. > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 8:13 AM, marty sukey wrote: > >> Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I > will >> be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything >> creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not > work. >> Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fpspitfire at comcast.net From VANDECARR at aol.com Mon Mar 12 10:40:27 2012 From: VANDECARR at aol.com (VANDECARR at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: <27132.151be8ef.3c8f80fa@aol.com> I'm using an odyssey battery - I think it's the PC 625. I'm now using it on my formula car which has a total loss system and EFI. I have one for the starter,fuel pump and fan and the other is for the ECU and electronics. I used this same battery on my TR6 which has a 400hp V8 - would start it with no problem. It weighs about 13 lbs. and can be mounted on any orientation. Their chargers and make specifically for their batteries and work great. Available at Summit and other places and not too expensive. Dean VanDeCarr From jaboruch at netzero.net Tue Mar 13 16:01:10 2012 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:01:10 GMT Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: <20120313.180110.22947.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> I am also using an Odyssey PC 625MT. It is small and light weight. The MT stands for metal jacket. I am using an alternator and it always have plenty of power. Once my alternator failed sometime during a race weekend and I finished the race fine, it just would not start at post race impound. It is mounted laying down on the passenger side of the boot near the front corner. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: marty sukey To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Battery Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:13:03 -0400 Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I will be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not work. Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4f5fc3f5ee16e26f337ast04duc From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Mar 13 16:07:13 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:07:13 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: I was not that lucky with a hawker odyssey. Just lasted a year and didn't survive winter. Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 13 18:44:19 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Garage Sale Message-ID: <1331685859.80571.YahooMailRC@web181315.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> AMICI - I'm having a Garage Sale. One brand new (still boxed and cellophaned) ARP head stud kit for the TR3/4 tractor motor - $100 and for you Miata & Mini owners: - a very nice used set of four 15x7" alloy wheels ( Black five spoke) with Falken Azenis 205/50 R15 tires - $300 Thanks - see you all soon in Atlanta Dennis From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 15 06:47:49 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around Message-ID: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Mar 15 07:08:44 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:08:44 +0100 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005b01cd02ac$c33c6cc0$49b54640$@com> Hi Bobby, MP4 is the most wanted format for youtube. Most of my videos are in MP4 and youtube does eat them without quality loss. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 13:48 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] fiddle farting around after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Mar 15 07:21:02 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:21:02 +0100 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005c01cd02ae$7a8c42f0$6fa4c8d0$@com> Great video! These GT6 cars are damned fast. The TR4s on the track hadn't an easy life with you. Did you get the blue TR4? Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 13:48 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] fiddle farting around after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From TR3driver at ca.rr.com Thu Mar 15 08:57:42 2012 From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:57:42 -0700 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <021c01cd02bb$f95f6190$0301a8c0@randall> "MP4" is kind of like "internal combustion" ... it's just a broad category that leaves a whole lot of open ground as to what is actually under the hood. FWIW, here is some free software that will convert almost anything to almost anything. The trick is learning which options (what's "under the hood") you need on the output. http://ffmpeg.org/ Thanks for the links, Bobby, but this one http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 didn't work for me. YouTube claims it is a "previously uploaded video", but no link to the supposed duplicate either. -- Randall From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Mar 15 11:32:21 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:32:21 +0100 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331832256.82720.YahooMailRC@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <005b01cd02ac$c33c6cc0$49b54640$@com> <1331832256.82720.YahooMailRC@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b101cd02d1$955e2d50$c01a87f0$@com> Youtube list (sorry for German): * WebM-Dateien: Vp8-Video-Codec und Vorbis-Audio-Codec * MPEG4-, 3GPP- und MOV-Dateien: in der Regel H.264- und MPEG4-Video-Codecs sowie AAC-Audio-Codec * AVI: Ausgabeformat vieler Kameras; Video-Codec in der Regel MJPEG, Audio-Codec PCM * MPEGPS: unterst|tzt normalerweise MPEG2-Video-Codec und MP2 bei Audio * WMV * FLV: Adobe-FLV1-Video-Codec, MP3-Audio Von: Bobby Whitehead [mailto:igofaster at att.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 18:24 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: AW: [Fot] fiddle farting around I tried three times and it was like in 550 minute download... MP4 isn't listed as acceptable on what I saw... one day... I'll get up to 'speed' on your quality videos you share,,, thanks for the heads up... Bobby _____ From: MadMarx To: Bobby Whitehead ; FoT Triumph Sent: Thu, March 15, 2012 8:08:44 AM Subject: AW: [Fot] fiddle farting around Hi Bobby, MP4 is the most wanted format for youtube. Most of my videos are in MP4 and youtube does eat them without quality loss. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 13:48 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] fiddle farting around after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 15 15:17:21 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] GT6 Youtube Message-ID: <1331846241.93037.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> here's my other Youtube.... still learning.... Bobby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhLcMnL8uG8&feature=channel From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Fri Mar 16 03:53:46 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:53:46 +1000 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 Message-ID: has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry From tlizzard at msn.com Fri Mar 16 05:27:09 2012 From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:27:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've seen Miata seats in Spitfires, so they should work in a TR series I would think. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- From: Enquiries Road & Track To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard at msn.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Fri Mar 16 05:39:16 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:39:16 -0400 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 References: Message-ID: <19E8E2DF79894875AC5219E6B3920655@owner8914bbf7f> Didn't Uncle Jack do something with Miata seats? Tony, any insight? Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Enquiries Road & Track" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 > has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 > (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they > are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. > thanks, Terry > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM Fri Mar 16 07:11:33 2012 From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:11:33 +0000 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> The NB Miata seats years '99-'05 are very comfortable and relatively inexpensive. Generally you can get a pair for $200 or so and are readily available locally on Craigslist or local Miata Club. John This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:54 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley at centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Fri Mar 16 07:30:04 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> Message-ID: <1331904604.26231.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Terry: Uncle Jack did design and build brackets which mount Miata seats into a TR. They are currently being sold by Joe Alexander / ARE. I ordered some a couple of weeks ago and they are very nice units. The nice thing about Miata seats is that you can get them with speakers in the headrests which make listening to a stereo much more enjoyable/possible. -Ed- --- On Fri, 3/16/12, John Wiley wrote: From: John Wiley Subject: Re: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 To: "Enquiries Road & Track" , "fot at autox.team.net" Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 8:11 AM The NB Miata seats years '99-'05 are very comfortable and relatively inexpensive. Generally you can get a pair for $200 or so and are readily available locally on Craigslist or local Miata Club. John This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:54 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley at centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 08:10:50 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:10:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 :Now TR7/8? In-Reply-To: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> References: , <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> Message-ID: As a side subject. Anybody found seats that would fit in a TR7/8? I tried TR6 seats and the base was too high, did not leave enough clearance between legs and steering wheel so I am assuming Miata seats would have the same issue. Marty From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 16 08:28:13 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 MIATA SEAT CONVERSION KIT BY A.R.E. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED198277A7259-1888-DE4@webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com> When Uncle Jack was making up the brackets for his TR6, I suggested that there was a market for these as a kit. Sean Alexander and Jack worked on the design together. Sean worked on the design for manufacturing in a production mode. They are laser blanked, formed and powder coated. A hardware kit comes with it and it is shipped in a custom box. Tony turned the project over to Sean after Jack died. Sean has made improvements to the kit with the help of the TR6 guys. It fits several models of Triumphs. Paul Rego in the east coast is preparing to fit Miata Seats in a TR8. It has become a very popular conversion. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Enquiries Road & Track To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 4:55 am Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 16 09:11:05 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED19E24E543B5-1888-1533@webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com> We recently sent a conversion kit to the editor of SPITFIRES AND GT6 for an installation in his Spitfire. We know we have sold them to Spitfire owners in the past for the Miata seats, and never heard back. We have to assume all went well. The installation may have required drilling a hole or two in the floor, but not likely a big deal. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Terry Stetler To: fot ; Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 6:31 am Subject: Re: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 I've seen Miata seats in Spitfires, so they should work in a TR series I would think. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- From: Enquiries Road & Track To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard at msn.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 16 09:26:12 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> References: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> Message-ID: <8CED1A040D91559-1888-17DE@webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com> The NA seats (earlier years) work very well, too. Many conversions have been done with these. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Wiley To: Enquiries Road & Track ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 8:15 am Subject: Re: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 The NB Miata seats years '99-'05 are very comfortable and relatively inexpensive. Generally you can get a pair for $200 or so and are readily available locally on Craigslist or local Miata Club. John This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:54 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley at centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Fri Mar 16 16:44:37 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:37 +1000 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 Message-ID: many thanks for all the replies. I should be able to find these locally. Terry From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat Mar 17 05:56:43 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:56:43 +1000 Subject: [Fot] alternative rocker arms for TR6 Message-ID: has anyone found an alternative, higher ratio rocker arm that can be adapted into a 6 cyl??. I know about the various brands of roller rocker, but some of our historic race classes here prevents their use. i have found some old volvo ones which are close, but not close enough to avoid massive re-engineering. any alternatives??? thanks Terry (TR5) From sjanzen at me.com Sat Mar 17 07:11:52 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:11:52 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Looking for Bill Davis Message-ID: <9475B336-EE15-4F7A-A84C-F125733701BC@me.com> I'd like to track down Bill Davis. He owned/raced my GT6 for a number of years starting in 1973 through 1977(?). I believe he lives in North Carolina. I spoke with him 4-5 years ago, but lost his number in a computer crash ( and we think British cars are unreliable!). Anybody have an idea of his whereabouts? I'm going to VIR for the Wild Hare in April and would really like to re-unite him with the car if he's interested. Thanks! Scott 215-817-9315 From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sat Mar 17 13:36:33 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Calendar appologies Message-ID: <4460B5D7-83FB-4CAB-BBC3-AFC265B2801D@aol.com> Amici After much consideration I am going to postpone doing the calendar till September or October. This way it can be a Christmas present. I am looking at a price between $15-$20 each. Only other pictures I am looking for is a starting grid pic of this years along with winner and his car. I have to ask this because I am not going to make it there. I have to postpone because of moving, getting a house, moving my business, and family. Please forgive me. On another note, I still gave badges and flags. Thank you From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 17 16:55:20 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Youtube walkaround GT-6+ / Texas FoT crew Message-ID: <1332024920.78077.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> A crude video of a walk around of the GT-6+ .... Ready for the Mitty! Found my oil leak, fixed 99% of the leak. The after marker alloy front sealing block was not quite flush with the front of the engine block. It was protruding just enough to feel the obtrusion by touch. I loosened to two attachment bolts from the bottom of the oil pin and with a mallet tapped the front sealing block flush with the engine. Some hi-temp gasket sealer, new gaskets, and all buttoned up and ready for the Mitty. This video is fresh 03-07-12. There are a couple of Texas F.O.T guys that have a track day scheduled (thanks Bill Collins!) at the Cresson Texas MSR in April before the Mitty.... Bill and Joe Hovey, and Bob Blake are all working on new builds and re-builds in prep for the Mitty! God willing.... with what I know in our Texas F.o.T group, we have 1. Robert (Bob) 'Fireball' Kramer TR4 of 2. Is Andrew Kramer coming with his dad Bob? TR4 3. Gregg Blake TR3 4. Bob Blake (2nd father and son group) TR4 5. Bill 'Dipstick' (don't ask) Collins SPITFIRE 6. Joe Hovey SPITFIRE 7. Bobby (Pawn Star of CVAR) Whitehead GT-6+ http://youtu.be/WWfJilIauKo From ac at camoletti.ch Sat Mar 17 17:02:39 2012 From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:02:39 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000f01cd0492$0e25d870$2a718950$@camoletti.ch> Amici, it looks like we will have a rear mount of decent quality. Would love to purchase one ! In particular if it allows torsional movements of the box, so that the chassis will be able to flex as it likes and save the bellhousing. Keep us posted and put one aside for me whenever you make the first prod run! Cheers and keep the great momentum! Alex (Geneva, Switzerland) -----Message d'origine----- De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Joe Alexander Envoyi : vendredi 9 mars 2012 22:31 @ : fot at autox.team.net Objet : [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Glen, Yup, we've done that, too, and it works. Yet, we'd like to take a step further. Greg Solow interjects some thoughtful observations that may be incorporated into the design, eventually.. Keep the comments and interest coming....we have about 8 responses in about 4 hours. There must be an interest. There seems to be an opportunity to relieve some stresses from the gearbox....stresses that have been known to crack bellhousings. Stresses that might not be very good for the gearbox internals, either. Time to think outside the GEARBOX, as it were. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 To: n197tr4 ; malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch From jhhasty at gdhs.com Sun Mar 18 11:23:42 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:23:42 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Youtube walkaround GT-6+ / Texas FoT crew In-Reply-To: <1332024920.78077.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1332024920.78077.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0F27C1F1-2914-4ED8-999C-F36264B736DF@gdhs.com> Be sure and tell Bob K to look me up in the paddock & take a look at his old TR3A Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > A crude video of a walk around of the GT-6+ .... Ready for the Mitty! Found my > oil leak, fixed 99% of the leak. The after marker alloy front sealing block was > not quite flush with the front of the engine block. It was protruding just > enough to feel the obtrusion by touch. I loosened to two attachment bolts from > the bottom of the oil pin and with a mallet tapped the front sealing block flush > with the engine. Some hi-temp gasket sealer, new gaskets, and all buttoned up > and ready for the Mitty. This video is fresh 03-07-12. > There are a couple of Texas F.O.T guys that have a track day scheduled (thanks > Bill Collins!) at the Cresson Texas MSR in April before the Mitty.... Bill and > Joe Hovey, and Bob Blake are all working on new builds and re-builds in prep for > the Mitty! God willing.... with what I know in our Texas F.o.T group, we have > > 1. Robert (Bob) 'Fireball' Kramer TR4 of > 2. Is Andrew Kramer coming with his dad Bob? TR4 > 3. Gregg Blake TR3 > 4. Bob Blake (2nd father and son group) TR4 > 5. Bill 'Dipstick' (don't ask) Collins SPITFIRE > 6. Joe Hovey SPITFIRE > 7. Bobby (Pawn Star of CVAR) Whitehead GT-6+ > > http://youtu.be/WWfJilIauKo > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From jhassall at blacksburg.net Sun Mar 18 16:06:13 2012 From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:06:13 -0400 Subject: [Fot] max. TIR for TR4 aluminum flywheel? Message-ID: <4F665C55.6040308@blacksburg.net> Amici, What is the maximum flywheel total indicator runout you'd feel comfortable with? I was finally able to remount the Fidanza f/w on my TR4 engine this afternoon, only to find that it has 0.005 TIR. I have no record on my build log of the previous runout, so I need advice. Given that it's for "fast road" / autox, red line 6K (nitrided crank, lightened and balanced rotating bits, PP and f/w balanced as an assembly), do you think 0.005 is too much? Since all mating surfaces were clean and smooth, of course I was shooting for 0.000, so needless to say I was disappointed. TIA jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go From jhassall at blacksburg.net Sun Mar 18 16:10:47 2012 From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:10:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Al. f/w runout Message-ID: <4F665D67.1040700@blacksburg.net> One more data point: the pressure plate is the improved TR4A design (much lighter than the -4 design) j -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Mar 19 15:29:37 2012 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:29:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info Message-ID: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> I'm trying to access the information on the various types of TR3 &TR4 cylinder heads that I believe Terry Ann Wakeman put together. The old link that I have does not work, it just routes me to "Go Daddy.com". Could someone send me the correct link if that info is still available? Thanks. Tim Murphy From tjwakeman at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 16:05:45 2012 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:05:45 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info In-Reply-To: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> References: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> Message-ID: <4F67ADB9.4040609@gmail.com> On 3/19/12 2:29 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > I'm trying to access the information on the various types of TR3&TR4 > cylinder heads that I believe Terry Ann Wakeman put together. The old link > that I have does not work, it just routes me to "Go Daddy.com". There is no correct link for the site at the moment. I get started trying to link the site properly into the domain name and never got it working properly. Sent a help message to GoDaddy tech. Got a canned reply back that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Got going on other things & never got around to revisiting it. I didn't think anyone would notice. Guess I'm wrong. Here is how to get to the page: http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm I'll try to get the site properly connected one of these days. GoDaddy may be inexpensive hosting for really big web sites but their tech help is the absolute pits and their web site is so focused in selling you more stuff it hardly has any space for actually managing the hosting. They are no help on anything that does not make them more money. Teriann From mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 19 16:51:45 2012 From: mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net (mrcpt1@sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] TR2 Tool Kit Message-ID: <1332197505.15345.YahooMailRC@web181218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hello, I am in need of a complete OE TR2 tool kit (or a TR3 if it's the same thing ?) I would be grateful to hear from anyone out there who might be interested in selling one. Cheers, Mike Ryan . From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Mar 19 17:43:30 2012 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:43:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info In-Reply-To: <4F67ADB9.4040609@gmail.com> References: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> <4F67ADB9.4040609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001cd062a$17205380$4560fa80$@com> Thanks to all those who replied so quickly!! FOT rocks:) That's the info I was looking for, now I just have to use it and figure out which heads I have for spares. Thanks again. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:06 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info On 3/19/12 2:29 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > I'm trying to access the information on the various types of TR3&TR4 > cylinder heads that I believe Terry Ann Wakeman put together. The old link > that I have does not work, it just routes me to "Go Daddy.com". There is no correct link for the site at the moment. I get started trying to link the site properly into the domain name and never got it working properly. Sent a help message to GoDaddy tech. Got a canned reply back that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Got going on other things & never got around to revisiting it. I didn't think anyone would notice. Guess I'm wrong. Here is how to get to the page: http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm I'll try to get the site properly connected one of these days. GoDaddy may be inexpensive hosting for really big web sites but their tech help is the absolute pits and their web site is so focused in selling you more stuff it hardly has any space for actually managing the hosting. They are no help on anything that does not make them more money. Teriann _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph at fastbytes.com From 58tr3a at videotron.ca Mon Mar 19 18:54:19 2012 From: 58tr3a at videotron.ca (Don TR) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR2 Tool Kit References: <1332197505.15345.YahooMailRC@web181218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9B45E8C5337C4D299C27DF8CF21E0185@don> John Warfield is the Prez of TRA and he used to sell the tools. Warfield, John E-mail Address(es): jdwtrxk at verizon.net Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "mrcpt1 at sbcglobal.net" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:51 PM Subject: [Fot] TR2 Tool Kit > Hello, I am in need of a complete OE TR2 tool kit (or a TR3 if it's the > same > thing ?) > > > I would be grateful to hear from anyone out there who might be > interested in > selling one. > > Cheers, Mike Ryan . > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/58tr3a at videotron.ca From kaskas at cox.net Mon Mar 19 19:12:44 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:12:44 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second Message-ID: I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 19 19:15:59 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED44E248F12BF-6C8-22C5@webmail-m132.sysops.aol.com> DONE for Dunn Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Kas Kastner To: fot ; Ed Dunn Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 8:13 pm Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jason at multivintage.com Mon Mar 19 19:30:39 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:30:39 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second In-Reply-To: <8CED44E248F12BF-6C8-22C5@webmail-m132.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED44E248F12BF-6C8-22C5@webmail-m132.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1252817337-1332207040-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1625836284-@b16.c3.bise6.blackberry> Yes, I second These GT6's seem to be multiplying, lately... That's a good thing. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:15:59 To: ; ; Subject: Re: [Fot] Membership, need a second DONE for Dunn Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Kas Kastner To: fot ; Ed Dunn Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 8:13 pm Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com Tue Mar 20 00:11:39 2012 From: edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com (Edward Dunn) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:11:39 -0700 Subject: [Fot] GT6 Intro Message-ID: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0177226A3934@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Esteemed fellow enthusiasts; After watching for 30 years, in 2010 I decided to actually do something about my interest in vintage racing. I bought an old GT6 racer from Steve Smith and proceeded to jump into the ice cold/red hot pool of attempting to race. Pretty much everything that could go wrong did. Fortunately, nothing that couldn't be fixed or solved. We had so much fun/tragedy that VARA invented and awarded me a new trophy for competitor that had the worst year possible and still showed up. Apologies to Kas, but I was very much "beaten by equipment", as well as a jerk Datsun 510 racer who slammed into me my very first time on the track. Fortunately, I've met a number of really terrific folks in VARA who helped me put the car back together, and vastly improve its many shortcomings. (Oops, I still owe you a water pump Mr. Barker) Essentially, we've fundamentally rebuilt most of the car. Simple job, just takes large amounts of time and vast quantities of cash. Good thing is, it prompted me to sell most of my motorcycles which I had been dawdling on doing. I've always been into cars. Someday I'll tell the story how I got my first car at three years old (A 1940 Pontiac). Among the vehicles in our garage, is the 1952 MG TD that I learned to drive in. I have owned a wide variety of cars, bikes, boats, RV's etc., but this is my first Triumph. Except for the '66 TR4A I stole borrowed from my sister's husband for a couple weeks before he found it. Fun wheels for a 17 year old to blast around in... Best we can tell (according to Steve Smith) is that my car was raced in the L.A. area in the 80's-early 90's. Steve found it in a guy's back yard, and finally sold it to me. Steve of course, is a well known GT6 racer with his highly tuned & tweaked red #4 car. Word on the street, is that Steve will join us at Willow Springs in a couple weeks if the stars align. Steve has been quite a help with the beast, and is a really interesting crazy character guy. To further bore you, here's a brief rundown of what we've done to the car since I bought it: ' Changed number to 757 (another story for later) ' Total refinish, inside / outside / under hood ' Repair cracked frame outrigger ' Built exhaust system aft of header (including race muffler) ' Welded up floor holes, reinforced floor ' Welded up numerous rust areas, misc body repairs ' Reworked roll cage some ' Finished interior with aluminum panel ' Installed proper FIA fuel cell ' Relocated fuel pump and lines ' Replaced mirrors with proper race type ' Replaced transmission bearings ' Replaced clutch assembly ' Shortened & balanced driveshaft to fit properly ' Regeared rear axle to 4.10 ' Rebuilt brake cylinders ' Rebuilt clutch cylinders ' Replaced rotoflex's ' Replaced gauges (Autometer race) ' Replaced steering wheel (quick release) ' Rebuilt shifter ' Installed Accusump & new braided oil lines ' Replaced oil cooler ' Replaced oil pump ' Replaced radiator (VW) ' Replaced alternator ' Replaced battery ' Relocated battery to cockpit in sealed box ' Replaced electrical master switch with proper one ' Replaced seat with better Kirkey ' Replaced motor mounts ' Replaced binding throttle linkage ' Rebuilt engine; crank, rings, cam, comp head, etc... Current to do list: ' Replace suspension bushings with poly ' Rebuild/reinforce rear spring ' Complete "octopus" oil system ' Detail engine compartment ' Build spare motor & trans ' Renew brakes (Porterfield R4) ' Refine spares collection Many thanks to folks who have helped so far: X Joe Siam X Steve Smith X Rod Davis X Rod Davis Jr. (body & paint) X Jim Clark, engine builder X A whole bunch of VARA members who helped keep me going when it felt real bad... X Finally, the Master. Without his books as reference and bedtime reading, it would have been a lot tougher. Thanks, Kas. Hopefully, I can contribute as well as take from this group. Ed Dunn Encinitas, CA From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Mar 20 06:23:30 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:23:30 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Ed Dunn message Message-ID: <7626CAFD9E024F5B8D76D602CA7587D7@owner8914bbf7f> Ed, welcome to the club, in more ways than one. After reading your story I think a lot of us can have some empathy. "Ready to race, eh?" Heard that one before! I think a lot of us have been down the same road as you concerning our cars. Your story sounds a lot like mine, except for the 510 idiot (knock on wood!). Replace, rebuild, repair, re-do, re-engineer, re-wire, etc. I think I've kept Richard Good in business the last few years, along with TRF, Ted, and Jegs! The good news is that I can do most of my own work, except body work, and have all the tools to work with, including a lift. Lots of time and money went into my TR6. The thing is, I wouldn't trade the experience for anything! I've had a blast and met a whole bunch of great people. A lot of guys helped or gave advice when I started out. Now, I've had the pleasure of helping out some other guys. I usually carry way too much stuff to the races, but have helped out fellow drivers on occasion. It's all good! Best of luck in your racing. But keep in mind the old saying, "There's no such thing as luck, you make your own" I'd like to say Kas said it, but I think it was some guy named Shelby. The main thing about vintage racing: HAVE FUN! Bill From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 20 10:08:06 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1332259686.44594.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> another GT6? heck yeah.... that's a second or third... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Kas Kastner To: fot ; Ed Dunn Sent: Mon, March 19, 2012 8:12:44 PM Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From rikrock at live.com Tue Mar 20 15:55:55 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:55:55 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Message-ID: Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Tue Mar 20 16:25:19 2012 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:25:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006f01cd06e8$585d20d0$09176270$@rr.com> Have you ever read Don Quixote? This is a big windmill hardly worth the effort. Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Rock Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:56 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Mar 20 16:40:59 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:40:59 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001001cd06ea$87afc610$970f5230$@com> They might suppose the car to be flame thrower with the oil hose connected to the exhaust. I would say that the amount of oil on the road is less with that system and it does indicate very early any engine damage. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Rich Rock Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Mdrz 2012 22:56 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From billdentin at aol.com Tue Mar 20 16:48:50 2012 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> <<<- Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum ystems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't resent an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did ay that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out oday. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and hey create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? ->>> tend to agree with Russ Moore's take on any battle with SCCA. While I sure do not have one, and have no real desire for one, I'd be interested in Jack Woerhle's take if he is still monitoring this FOT List. Bill Dentinger From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 20 18:27:30 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CED51088E335D1-2BE0-24E7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> Jack Woerhle and I had this discussion a very long time ago. His response, in writing, was that anything that kept oil off the track was OK with him at tech. I am still in contact with him from time to time, but he is not on the list any longer that I am aware of. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: billdentin To: rikrock ; fot Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA <<<- Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum ystems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't resent an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did ay that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out oday. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and hey create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? ->>> tend to agree with Russ Moore's take on any battle with SCCA. While I sure do not have one, and have no real desire for one, I'd be interested in Jack Woerhle's take if he is still monitoring this FOT List. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jhassall at blacksburg.net Tue Mar 20 18:38:32 2012 From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:38:32 -0400 Subject: [Fot] max. TIR for TR4 aluminum flywheel? In-Reply-To: <4F665C55.6040308@blacksburg.net> References: <4F665C55.6040308@blacksburg.net> Message-ID: <4F692308.2080809@blacksburg.net> On 3/18/2012 6:06 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > Amici, > > What is the maximum flywheel total indicator runout you'd feel > comfortable with? I was finally able to remount the Fidanza f/w on my > TR4 engine this afternoon, only to find that it has 0.005 TIR. I have > no record on my build log of the previous runout, so I need advice. > Given that it's for "fast road" / autox, red line 6K (nitrided crank, > lightened and balanced rotating bits, PP and f/w balanced as an > assembly), do you think 0.005 is too much? Since all mating surfaces > were clean and smooth, of course I was shooting for 0.000, so needless > to say I was disappointed. As the saying goes, "Cleanliness is next to godliness, unless you're building an engine, then the order is reversed." The TIR problem was simply due to undetectable grunge on either the f/w or the crank. After vigorously wire brushing the interfaces, it went back together perfectly. Since I specified 0.000 TIR in the satellite equipment I used to design, I figured zero was what I should have here. And I got it! Happiness is zero TIR. Now, on to the next opportunity.... -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 20 18:41:56 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED5128D413260-2BE0-26C7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> unlikely any real research was done. but asking about it seems worthwhile. thanks Rich Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Rich Rock To: fot Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 4:56 pm Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From fpspitfire at comcast.net Tue Mar 20 19:42:57 2012 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (Aaron Johnson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:42:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is probably about as good of a battle to pick as asking for slicks and fender flares in a vintage series. None of us run an exhaust vacuum system, none of us need to run them and none of the people who spend thousands on dyno time have found a power benefit. Aaron Johnson #87 HP spitfire 1500 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2012, at 16:55, Rich Rock wrote: > Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum > systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't > present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did > say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. > > The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out > today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: > > "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and > they create a safety issue if they malfunction". > > Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? > > Rich Rock > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fpspitfire at comcast.net From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 06:21:24 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:21:24 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: <8CED51088E335D1-2BE0-24E7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> <8CED51088E335D1-2BE0-24E7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I did win a tire selection with Jack recently and it is now in writing of a brouder selection of tires that we may run. It still doesn't accomadate slicks but that wasn't what I was after.I will post the copy if anyone wants it. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Jack Woerhle and I had this discussion a very long time ago. His > response, in > writing, was that anything that kept oil off the track was OK with him at > tech. > > I am still in contact with him from time to time, but he is not on the list > any longer that I am aware of. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: billdentin > To: rikrock ; fot > Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 5:49 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA > > > <<<- Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine > vacuum > ystems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't > resent an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did > ay that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. > The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came > out > oday. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: > "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and > hey create a safety issue if they malfunction". > Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? ->>> > > tend to agree with Russ Moore's take on any battle with SCCA. > While I sure do not have one, and have no real desire for one, > I'd be interested in Jack Woerhle's take if he is still monitoring > this FOT List. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 07:40:54 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:40:54 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: group 3 tires In-Reply-To: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC009F@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC009F@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Deanes, Robert Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:36 AM Subject: FW: group 3 tires To: Robert Deanes ** ** ** ** *From:* Jack Woehrle [mailto:jwoesvra at aol.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 10:56 PM *To:* Deanes, Robert *Cc:* Steve Bonk *Subject:* Re: group 3 tires**** ** ** I have updated the Vintage Production Category to include the Toyo R888 and Yokohama A048.**** ** ** -- rob deanes TR Racer /local/mailman/lynxXXXX0SVjoa: Permission denied [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of VRR Vintage Production Category (VP).pdf] From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 10:18:35 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:18:35 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: group 3 tires In-Reply-To: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC0227@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC0227@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Deanes, Robert Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:14 PM Subject: FW: group 3 tires To: Robert Deanes ** ** ** ** *From:* Jack Woehrle [mailto:jwoesvra at aol.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 10:56 PM *To:* Deanes, Robert *Cc:* Steve Bonk *Subject:* Re: group 3 tires**** ** ** I have updated the Vintage Production Category to include the Toyo R888 and Yokohama A048.**** ** ** -- rob deanes TR Racer /local/mailman/lynxXXXXC0wZmW: Permission denied [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of VRR Vintage Production Category (VP).pdf] From pvucinic at netspace.net.au Wed Mar 21 16:11:18 2012 From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:11:18 +1100 Subject: [Fot] Team TSOA 2nd in Relay Event Message-ID: TEAM Triumph Sports Owners Associating, Victoria Australia had another fantastic race result! http://www.tsoavic.com/ REPORT ON SANDOWN 6 HOUR REGULARITY RELAY 26th February, 2012. This is the third time The Porsche Club of Victoria has run a Regularity Relay at Sandown. This year other clubs were invited to participate, which broadened the interest in the event, and as the results showed it was not dominated by Porsche teams. In fact, out of 23 teams there were 9 non Porsche, with Holden, Jaguar, Triumph, Alfa, and mixed teams making up the grid. Each driver did a fantastic job with VERY FEW laps under the nominated times, which reflected in the final results. There were NO mechanical problems, so the cars ran faultlessly during the event, so each driver had their share of track time. The final results were: First: The Colonel's Men (Porsches) 56.5762 points, Second: TEAM TRIUMPH 56.5116 Third : Autocure Motor Sport (Holdens) 54.0254 What a fantastic result for us, and this, added to a previous win at Winton a couple of years ago, and good placings at Phillip Island, keeps TSOA up with the best. We don't need $300,000 cars to be competitive! Sandown History: History - Built in the early 60's, Sandown's Motor Circuit has long stood as the premium car racing circuit in Melbourne. Names such as Fangio, Moss, Brabham, Brock, Skaife and Richards all having competing round the fast and famous circuit. http://www.sandown.net.au/ Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums From edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com Wed Mar 21 16:48:54 2012 From: edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com (Edward Dunn) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:48:54 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0177226A3993@TITAN.dwholdings.local> In my wife's Formula Vee, we use an Odyssey PC680. Paid $125 at batterymart.com Ed Edward Dunn Quality Fuel Trailer & Tank, Inc. 1611 S. 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I think it is a mere possibility that with a few years of counsel and servitude I could be an asset to the organization. Please allow me to expound on why it might not be a completely grievous decision to induct me into the fold. 1. I am the Automobilist. I obtained my first car at age three. I believe this qualifies me as the person who has owned a car for a greater percentage of his life than anyone with a quarter mile or so. The beast that started it all: a 1940 Pontiac coupe, left to me by my dear late grandmother. I kept the Pontiac until I turned 16, then did a "schlock" restoration on it, of extremely poor quality. Shortly afterward, I sold the car to a rube, and bought a 1968 Mustang GTCS. By the time I had turned 21, I had owned 22 cars. List upon request. 2. I learned to drive in a 1952 MG TD. In 1990, I somehow convinced my aged father to let me "borrow" the MG and "fix it up". Three years later, my wife and I had struggled through a complete restoration. Regrettably (for my father) the car turned out perfect, and was never returned to him. Pity. Most recently, the beautiful TD was our beautiful daughter's wedding getaway car. 3. I write an extremely good automotive blog, with over three followers. Impactful, insightful, and self-absorbed. 4. I am a member of the well known Secret Car Club. As you undoubtedly are aware, this is by invitation only. It is non-marque-denominational, and exceedingly posh. We conduct many extremely exciting runs & events, often involving lemon or German chocolate cake. 5. As a retired airline captain, (although still really quite young) I have commanded large, very large conveyances with many people eating peanuts and drinking soda in the cabin. I was actually quite good at this. 6. I have almost owned a Triumph in the past. In high school, I stole, borrowed my brother in law's TR4A, and drove it until he found out about it a couple weeks later. 7. I do own a Triumph currently. A beautiful blue GT6 Mk3. 1971 vintage. Purchased from one Steve Smith, of the Las Vegas, Nevada, Smiths. Apparently, Mr. Smith fancies himself as a sort of Triumph hobbyist, and holds certain acclaim in vintage racing circles. Seemed like a decent fellow to me. I have a scheme to have the GT6 properly prepared, and then somehow achieve vintage racing domination with it. Or, possibly complete a race weekend without it puking its guts out. 8. I have met many Triumph owners of high (and low) acclaim: Kas Kastner, Jerry Barker, Joe Alexander, John Nikas, Joe Siam, Chuck Gee, etc. Please take my application under serious consideration. If a small cash donation ($5-10 or so) is needed to grease the skids of membership, so be it. I also may know some people who can get things "done", if that helps. Respectfully submitted, Edward E. Dunn Encinitas, CA From lunkercars at earthlink.net Thu Mar 22 10:02:47 2012 From: lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg ''Lunker'' Hilyer) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:02:47 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fw: FoT/ Ed Dunn In-Reply-To: <9EDC0E7F3DCD4D5A8CED041B90E7ACD5@hp2572664f9a91> References: <9EDC0E7F3DCD4D5A8CED041B90E7ACD5@hp2572664f9a91> Message-ID: <82575463-0FE4-4227-9A60-386200CC2412@earthlink.net> > 6. I have almost owned a Triumph in the past. In high school, > I stole, > borrowed my brother in law's TR4A, and drove it until he found out > about it a > couple weeks later. Ed, "Drive it like you stole it" is a prerequisite for making a Triumph go fast. Sounds like you've got that part down. Welcome! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From mike.mehl at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 21:03:24 2012 From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Spax adjustable shocks for sale - TR4 Message-ID: <1332471804.30439.YahooMailNeo@web46102.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have a like new pair of TR4 front shocks for sale. They were just checked on a Shock Dyno. The Dyno data will be supplied with the shocks. $130 for the pair plus shipping. Mike Mehl let me know. From tarch at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 23 08:59:37 2012 From: tarch at bellsouth.net (Richard Taylor) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:59:37 -0400 Subject: [Fot] The Mitty Message-ID: <007801cd0905$915a40b0$b40ec210$@net> OK fellow FOTers, the cherry pickin's over. Ole 196 (TR-4A) rides again! I've come out from under my rock, ordered some secret go-fast equipment (like a new harness, Hans device and bake pads) and have registered for the Mitty. I truly look forward to reinforcing many old friendships and making a bunch of new ones. You guys are an exceptional gaggle. Let the games begin! It's going to be a lot of fun! Richard Richard L. Taylor, Jr., FAIA TAYLOR ARCHITECTURE 112 Krog St. Suite 196 Atlanta, Georgia, 30307 tel: (404) 223-1313 fax: (404) 223-1312 mobile: (404) 660-4920 www.taylor-architecture.com From atr6racer at hotmail.com Fri Mar 23 14:42:37 2012 From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:42:37 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 15x7 TR6 Wheels Message-ID: I ordered a set of new Rota wheels (Panasport imitations) for my TR6 and received the wrong color. Instead of having a polished rim I got a complete flat black wheel. And instead of sending them back (triple shipping costs) I kept them and ordered the correct color and trim wheel. So I'm offering a set of 15x7 4x114.3MM (4 1/2) 4mm postive offset flat black Rota wheels. I'll bring them to the Mitty if anyone is interested. Brand new never mounted still in boxes. $500.00 Sam Halkias [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Fri Mar 23 15:31:38 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:31:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Any interest, spit parts Message-ID: Amici, Time to thin the parts out. I have an OD trans from a 72 spit. Been sitting for about 20 years. It goes spin. No other guarantees. $200 Non-OD trans, single rail and other type. $100 each Full length floor pans for Spit or GT6. New purchased about 15 years ago. Some slight surface rust. Dusty shipping box included. $200 for the pair 74 spit frame. Painted black with no rust or problems. $150 74 spit doors. No rust fully loaded with glass and such. Primer painted over blue color. $75 for both. 74 trunk lid. Some rust around rear edge. $50 74 bonnet. One rust hole where sub frame mounts. Dents along top fender ridge. $100 74 body tub. Needs floorboards, and some rust repair. FREE I have diffs (stock, nothing special), engines, suspension pieces, leaf springs, and other tidly bits. All prices are negotiable. Items are in Southern NJ. I can ship some of the parts but would prefer pick up. If you need some other parts or want pictures email me off list. Thanks From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Fri Mar 23 18:01:19 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:01:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 15x7 TR6 Wheels References: Message-ID: <98840DE343B047AEA7B9CBC28A6057F0@owner8914bbf7f> Sam, other than the wrong color, how do you like the ROTA's? I bought a set last year and they seem fine, straight and true. Good looking wheel. And a decent price. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Halkias" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 4:42 PM Subject: [Fot] 15x7 TR6 Wheels >I ordered a set of new Rota wheels (Panasport imitations) for my TR6 and > received the wrong color. Instead of having a polished rim I got a > complete > flat black wheel. And instead of sending them back (triple shipping costs) > I > kept them and ordered the correct color and trim wheel. So I'm offering a > set > of 15x7 4x114.3MM (4 1/2) 4mm postive offset flat black Rota wheels. > I'll > bring them to the Mitty if anyone is interested. Brand new never mounted > still > in boxes. $500.00 > > Sam Halkias > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From tjwakeman at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 16:13:57 2012 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:13:57 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR3 stuff now on ebay Message-ID: <4F6E4725.2060503@gmail.com> Sorry for bombing the whole list but someone asked to let them know when I listed the TR3 steering assembly on ebay and I can not find their email to let them know it is now listed. Here is what I put up: - TR3A lower steering assembly including a split shaft steering box rebuilt by The Roadster Factory less than 20,000 miles ago with all new guts, including a new peg and worm gear. - Factory TR3 jack -factory TR3 lug nut wrench - New old stock TR3 optional ash tray - A pair of unlabeled Hooter style horns I took off the TR3. I don't know if they are original or aftermarket but they are tested and work. Teriann From mark at bradakis.com Sat Mar 24 18:25:33 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:25:33 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Thanks, Bobby! Message-ID: <4F6E65FD.4080108@bradakis.com> Nice pics you posted on Facebook from Group 44. mjb. From edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com Sun Mar 25 13:55:11 2012 From: edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com (Edward Dunn) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:55:11 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Supplemental oil lines Message-ID: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0177226A39C5@TITAN.dwholdings.local> I hope this message comes across well, the FoT formatting doesn't seem to carry over from MS Word well. Forgive me of it is indecipherable and/or incomprehensible... I'm finally assembling a Kastner Octopus system for my GT6. I'm assembling an octopus using the aluminum manifold Steve Smith gave me. I'm plumbing it with Parker Push-Lok hose & fittings, which are rated to 350 psi and the hose bends easier than braided steel. I'll back the ends up with hose clamps too. Opinions of the correctness of this? A lot of oil plumbing under the hood: * -10 oil cooler lines * remote oil filter mounted on firewall * oil pressure gauge line * oil temp gauge line * -10 Accusump feed line & anti-backflow valve * -10 main oil supply line Fittings, adapters, tee's, etc... Big VARA race weekend coming right up at Willow Springs. Kas featured all Triumph race, enduro, and I hope a good amount of madcap antics & wacky hijinx. Ed Dunn From igofaster at att.net Sun Mar 25 20:59:32 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] camping at the Mitty Message-ID: <1332730772.46208.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> having been to Road Atlanta as a spectator but never as a driver... my group from Texas is a 'camp at the track' unit... so ... I looked at the generic map of Road Atlanta and there a 2-3 infield camping areas. Looks to be one camping area outside on the west side of the track. So... with my camping done with me sleeping inside my car hauler, what can I expect. Will I drop off my car at a covered space and then drag my trailer to the camp site or what.... thanks for the help.. Bobby Whitehead From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Mon Mar 26 06:13:36 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:13:36 -0400 Subject: [Fot] camping at the Mitty References: <1332730772.46208.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bobby, and the rest of you guys wondering about this... You can camp where ever you want, but most racers stay in the paddock. For those of you tent camping, be aware we are in the Pro Paddock, and that area is 100% paved. Also, as we are on asphalt, no tent stakes can be driven into the ground, so come prepared to have your canopies anchored some other way! And Bobby, I am not sure what arrangements you may have made about a "covered space", but everyone is responsible for providing their own weather protection for their race car! Hopefully, our canopies will only be needed to block the sun... Cheers Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: [Fot] camping at the Mitty > having been to Road Atlanta as a spectator but never as a driver... my > group > from Texas is a 'camp at the track' unit... so ... I looked at the generic > map > of Road Atlanta and there a 2-3 infield camping areas. Looks to be one > camping > area outside on the west side of the track. > So... with my camping done with me sleeping inside my car hauler, what can > I > expect. Will I drop off my car at a covered space and then drag my trailer > to > the camp site or what.... From walt at hot-tr6.com Mon Mar 26 08:46:09 2012 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:46:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Gears and water pumps Message-ID: <004d01cd0b5f$2fb19be0$8f14d3a0$@hot-tr6.com> Two topics. #1. Does anyone at FOT know of a source of new, good quality, 4:11 to 1 ring and pinion gears for TR4,6? If so do you have an idea of how much they sell for? #2. Is it cost effective to have a water pump from a TR6 or other Triumphs rebuilt or should I just keep buying new ones? I have a handful of old pumps and I don't know why I keep them. Thank You, Walt Hollowell Abq., NM From jhd11 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 27 07:40:26 2012 From: jhd11 at hotmail.com (Joe Henry) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:40:26 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Message-ID: Good Morning, I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a Feature race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race scheduled for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? Thanks. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 27 07:56:40 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEDA38917804BA-970-21BA@webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com> Henry, maybe you could post the SCHEDULE, as you know it, on the FOT WEBSITE. At least the schedule for TRIUMPH opportunities....have we achieved our own run group? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Joe Henry To: fot Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 8:45 am Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Good Morning, I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a Feature race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race scheduled for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? Thanks. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Tue Mar 27 08:44:15 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:44:15 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule References: Message-ID: <0FA604F4979F48CF89D988C8A49FE465@TRIUMPH.local> Joe, I was unaware HSR finally got the provisional schedule posted. Thanks for the heads up. Our times are Friday 11:35 - Practive 4:40 - Practive 5:30 - Enduro Saturday 8:15 - Qualifying 12:45 - Grid the Kastner Cup Race 1:05 - Kastner Cup race goes off Sunday 4:30 - Group 1 Feature Race Remember, for an additional 1/2 entry fee, the same car can enter HSR's normal group, and get another 5 sessions! Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Henry" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:40 AM Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule > Good Morning, > I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a > Feature > race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race > scheduled > for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? > Thanks. > > Joe Downer > Charlotte, N.C. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04 at tr4racer.com From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 27 08:55:11 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:55:11 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DFCA926DE434C8491A7F9AD2DBD7AFC@gdhs.local> Who knows? It is not clear wether we get to run in the regular HSR classes & the small bore enduro or not. Does anyone have the answer???? Also....is it manditory that TR's pit in the so called "pro-pits"? That could be a bit of a problem for me with the TR3 and Historic Cup car in the same rig. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Henry Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:40 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Good Morning, I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a Feature race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race scheduled for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? Thanks. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From harmug at us.ibm.com Tue Mar 27 12:30:08 2012 From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:30:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 64, Issue 37 Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From the HSR website http://www.hsrrace.com/2012_Events/3_Mitty_Apr_26_29/Event_Info/Mitty_Schedule.pdf see you all there 63 Spit #7 G. Michael Harmuth From mnewman at embarqmail.com Tue Mar 27 13:32:44 2012 From: mnewman at embarqmail.com (William T newman) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:32:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Message-ID: <1521068153.1271941.1332876764752.JavaMail.root@md23.embarq.synacor.com> I made a phone call to Judy at HSR about a month ago just after the registration became available. She told me that us Triumph folks will have our own run group, but can also race the Dash series for our HSR class and can also run the Small Bore Enduro. This is lots of track time if you want it. You may want to call her to confirm what she told me. I will be calling her soon to confirm my car # and if we will be for sure using the pro paddock. Look for me to arrive on Thursday with GT6 #44. Bill Newman From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 27 14:19:42 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] FOT SWAP MEET THE MITTY TR6 SHORT BLOCK Message-ID: <8CEDA6E14154C1F-994-4884@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com> i have a tr6 block with crank, pistons and rods assembled in it. if any one is strongly interested, i will drag this assembly to the mitty. contact me off list. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From cartravel at pobox.com Tue Mar 27 17:49:45 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:49:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Message-ID: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> I'm in the midst of my TR250 restoration. I want to warm up the engine, so the hardwired carbs will not do. I know Richard Good sells a system to convert the non adjustable ones, but would it be better to just get a set from a different year? I've already bought a set of TR4a Strombergs, since they are simple and adjustable. Is there a better choice if you want a good carb that is adjustable for tuning mods? I'm trying to keep the looks of this car original, so I don't want SU's, PI or Webers, just good adjustable Strombergs.. Thanks, Larry Young From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Mar 27 18:52:43 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:52:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs References: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> Message-ID: <7EA7BDA9045142F2A5F381C7A72C1AF3@owner8914bbf7f> Larry, that's what I'm running on my TR6, a set of ZS from an earlier TR4. 1 3/4, with the adjustment screw in the bottom of the bowl. Seem to work fine for me, and cost effective (cheap!) The biggest cost was the overhaul kits. And I had to fabricate some linkage. No biggie. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" To: "FOT" Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:49 PM Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > I'm in the midst of my TR250 restoration. I want to warm up the engine, > so the hardwired carbs will not do. I know Richard Good sells a system to > convert the non adjustable ones, but would it be better to just get a set > from a different year? I've already bought a set of TR4a Strombergs, > since they are simple and adjustable. Is there a better choice if you > want a good carb that is adjustable for tuning mods? I'm trying to keep > the looks of this car original, so I don't want SU's, PI or Webers, just > good adjustable Strombergs.. > Thanks, > Larry Young > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 27 19:49:10 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: <1521068153.1271941.1332876764752.JavaMail.root@md23.embarq.synacor.com> References: <1521068153.1271941.1332876764752.JavaMail.root@md23.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <1332899350.75774.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Bill... I too will be coming in Wednesday night or early Thursday morning... would like to 'pit' with the GT6's .. FoT.... looking at the HSR provisional schedule what group would I be in the the DP Triumph GT-6+ .. 2.0 liter engine? Do we need to reserve an area in the pro paddock with HSR or Road Atlanta? ... money for the paddock? Bobby Whitehead #39 DP Triumph GT-6+ ________________________________ From: William T newman To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, March 27, 2012 2:32:44 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule I made a phone call to Judy at HSR about a month ago just after the registration became available. She told me that us Triumph folks will have our own run group, but can also race the Dash series for our HSR class and can also run the Small Bore Enduro. This is lots of track time if you want it. You may want to call her to confirm what she told me. I will be calling her soon to confirm my car # and if we will be for sure using the pro paddock. Look for me to arrive on Thursday with GT6 #44. Bill Newman _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From spyderweb at uwalumni.com Tue Mar 27 19:49:22 2012 From: spyderweb at uwalumni.com (Jim Hill) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:49:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 Body Panels Message-ID: Fellow Triumphphisti -- Now that my TR6 race car has been sold, I have no need for the fibreglass body panels that I'd bought for use in case of an accident. FortunateIy I had no shunts and so the body panels are are no longer needed and need a better home than my garage in Madison, Wisconsin. Anyone interested can contact me for details at: spyderweb at uwalumni.com or by phone at 608-259-0507 Thanks, Jim Hill From mark at bradakis.com Tue Mar 27 23:02:10 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:02:10 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> References: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4F729B52.4080706@bradakis.com> Adjustable 175 Strombergs were also available on early Sunbeam Alpines. mjb. From gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Wed Mar 28 02:33:40 2012 From: gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:33:40 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Message-ID: The carbs that came on Sunbeam Alpines were 150 CD, 1 1/2" throttle bore. Using the 175 CD carbs 0n a TR-6 can certainly be done successfully, but be sure to change the mixture needles. Using the TR-4 needles on a 2.5 liter engine will result in to rich a mixture that will end up washing down the cylinders with fuel and premature engine wear. The larger engine "sucks harder" on the carburetors. The vacuum generated over the jet goes up as the square of the air velocity. The carbs have no "air corrector" jet to prevent the mixture going overly rich at high load, ie. high intake air velocity. Leaner needles need to be fitted. Compare the needle profile of the 2A needle in the TR-4 carb with that of the needle in a TR-6 carb. The difference is not all because of emissions. Greg Solow The Engine Room Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, CA 95060 831 429-1800 ------- Original Message ------- >From : Mark J Bradakis[mailto:mark at bradakis.com] Sent : 3/27/2012 10:02:10 PM To : fot at autox.team.net Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Adjustable 175 Strombergs were also available on early Sunbeam Alpines. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Mar 28 05:57:49 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I cannot confirm that (yet). In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 28 06:10:00 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs with the use of shim stock. thought i would mention it, anyway. it provides a lot of choices Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: gregmogdoc Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Hi, Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I cannot confirm that (yet). In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 07:09:07 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:09:07 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Joe Curto can help you out with the needles On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs > with > the use of shim stock. > > thought i would mention it, anyway. > > it provides a lot of choices > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert M. Lang > To: gregmogdoc > Cc: fot > Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > Hi, > > Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with > Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote > down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I > cannot confirm that (yet). > > In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm > that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. > > In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. > > The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on > the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Mar 28 07:39:14 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Robert Deanes wrote: > Joe Curto can help you out with the needles Oddly enough, when I called Joe C. and gave him my engine specs, he wasn't really able to suggest anything. I had seen a suggestion for the B1AR, so I bought those... Poking around a bit more on the web this morning, I got some ideas on what to look for, but I have to measure what I have first before I will be buying anything. I know about the SU needles too. The fact that there are so many choices was the basis of the query. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Mar 28 08:34:12 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:34:12 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7927218D8B144624A88445597D12E8BD@Charly> Interesting that the Jag needle is the preferred choice. When I was running carbs on my TR6 I made my own needles using the specs for a Jag 3.8 motor, my thinking was that I wanted my 6 to run like a Jag. Reshaping a needle is fairly easy, chuck up the needle in a drill and use some emery cloth to shape it as you rotate it. I created a gauge with marks on it every 1/8" to measure the diameter as I went. very easy to do and worked very well, nice to have a couple of extra needles to experiment with. Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: "Robert Deanes" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Robert Deanes wrote: > >> Joe Curto can help you out with the needles > > Oddly enough, when I called Joe C. and gave him my engine specs, he wasn't > really able to suggest anything. I had seen a suggestion for the B1AR, so > I bought those... > > Poking around a bit more on the web this morning, I got some ideas on what > to look for, but I have to measure what I have first before I will be > buying anything. > > I know about the SU needles too. The fact that there are so many choices > was the basis of the query. > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com From BillDentin at aol.com Wed Mar 28 11:24:58 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... Message-ID: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> Dear Henry, et al... I have very limited HSR racing experience (Sebring, etc), but looking over the Provisional Schedule that they have posted on their website for the MITTY, I am concerned about TECH. I can find no reference to TECH being available on either Wednesday or Thursday. That sure would be a surprise to me. It is listed on Friday between 7:30 AM and 5:00 PM, which hardly seems sufficient to accommodate their ambitious racing schedule that starts on Friday at 8 AM. A bright note is our first scheduled session is not until 11:35 AM, but that still strikes me as a potential issue. We have enough prep issues to deal with, without long lines for TECH. TECH is also listed for 8:00 AM until noon on Saturday, but not thereafter. That may not be an issue as TECH is often 'as needed or by appointment' thereafter at an event. But it sure seems like there ought to be TECH opportunities on both Wednesday and Thursday. I don't know about HSR, but her ex-sister, SVRA, used to allow special TECH provisions in the competition paddock at their events for the featured marque (that'd be us here). Any chance that could/would happen here? Could/would HSR assign TECH people to scrutinize our cars in the competition paddock? Likewise in recent years there's been a movement to 'involve a self-TECH' during the official TECH process. With people they trusted to do it correctly, they'd provide the TECH form, you'd TECH your own car, sign that you had done so, and be given a TECH sticker. Any chance this or a similar process might be considered for the MITTY. I am NOT trying to get out of anything, nor avoid scrutiny... rather just trying to encourage a reasonable, efficient TECH process here. Just thinking out loud. Bill Dentinger From jhhasty at gdhs.com Wed Mar 28 11:39:09 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:39:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... In-Reply-To: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> References: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> Message-ID: <8AA3AA15F7BF4687847056C8198A6A63@gdhs.local> The schedule I have shows Tec on Thursday 7 to 5, on Friday 7 to 5 and our first practice on Friday @8:40. I checked with the HSR tec. Guy and he will honor any recognized group's annual tec and only require that you bring your helmet and Hans device to tec along with your log book showing the annual and no write ups since. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:25 PM To: henry at henryfrye.com Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... Dear Henry, et al... I have very limited HSR racing experience (Sebring, etc), but looking over the Provisional Schedule that they have posted on their website for the MITTY, I am concerned about TECH. I can find no reference to TECH being available on either Wednesday or Thursday. That sure would be a surprise to me. It is listed on Friday between 7:30 AM and 5:00 PM, which hardly seems sufficient to accommodate their ambitious racing schedule that starts on Friday at 8 AM. A bright note is our first scheduled session is not until 11:35 AM, but that still strikes me as a potential issue. We have enough prep issues to deal with, without long lines for TECH. TECH is also listed for 8:00 AM until noon on Saturday, but not thereafter. That may not be an issue as TECH is often 'as needed or by appointment' thereafter at an event. But it sure seems like there ought to be TECH opportunities on both Wednesday and Thursday. I don't know about HSR, but her ex-sister, SVRA, used to allow special TECH provisions in the competition paddock at their events for the featured marque (that'd be us here). Any chance that could/would happen here? Could/would HSR assign TECH people to scrutinize our cars in the competition paddock? Likewise in recent years there's been a movement to 'involve a self-TECH' during the official TECH process. With people they trusted to do it correctly, they'd provide the TECH form, you'd TECH your own car, sign that you had done so, and be given a TECH sticker. Any chance this or a similar process might be considered for the MITTY. I am NOT trying to get out of anything, nor avoid scrutiny... rather just trying to encourage a reasonable, efficient TECH process here. Just thinking out loud. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Wed Mar 28 11:58:08 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Tech at the Mitty References: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> Message-ID: <4841EEB638B24DD887140DEB26205627@TRIUMPH.local> HSR has promised to send a tech guy over to us at the Pro Pits. I will try top find out when we can expect to see him, and will report back to everyone. Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com From BillDentin at aol.com Wed Mar 28 11:59:18 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... Message-ID: <8dbd4.6f230ceb.3ca4ab76@aol.com> In a message dated 03/28/2012 11:39:18 AM Central Standard Time, jhhasty at gdhs.com writes: > The schedule I have shows Tec on Thursday 7 to 5, on Friday 7 to 5 and > our > first practice on Friday @8:40. I checked with the HSR tec. Guy and he > will > honor any recognized group's annual tec and only require that you bring > your > helmet and Hans device to tec along with your log book showing the annual > and no write ups since. > Interesting. What you are describing sure makes more sense. Ironically my copy is pretty fresh. I downloaded it from the HSR website just last night. It lists Practice Group 8 Historic Stock Cars at 8:40 AM and the TRIUMPHS (Group 1) at 11:35 on Friday, I am sure it will all get sorted out, and I am encouraged to hear HSR has a portability policy in place with regard to Annual Tech by other sanctioning groups. Good for HSR. Bill Dentinger From jhhasty at gdhs.com Wed Mar 28 12:06:29 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:06:29 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... In-Reply-To: <8dbd4.6f230ceb.3ca4ab76@aol.com> References: <8dbd4.6f230ceb.3ca4ab76@aol.com> Message-ID: <36455152E0EF4BD9B5881474CC4B3492@gdhs.local> you are correct.....it'ss 11:35 my mistake we have a cup car too and I looked at the wrong time.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _____ From: BillDentin at aol.com [mailto:BillDentin at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:59 PM To: jhhasty at gdhs.com; henry at henryfrye.com Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... In a message dated 03/28/2012 11:39:18 AM Central Standard Time, jhhasty at gdhs.com writes: The schedule I have shows Tec on Thursday 7 to 5, on Friday 7 to 5 and our first practice on Friday @8:40. I checked with the HSR tec. Guy and he will honor any recognized group's annual tec and only require that you bring your helmet and Hans device to tec along with your log book showing the annual and no write ups since. Interesting. What you are describing sure makes more sense. Ironically my copy is pretty fresh. I downloaded it from the HSR website just last night. It lists Practice Group 8 Historic Stock Cars at 8:40 AM and the TRIUMPHS (Group 1) at 11:35 on Friday, I am sure it will all get sorted out, and I am encouraged to hear HSR has a portability policy in place with regard to Annual Tech by other sanctioning groups. Good for HSR. Bill Dentinger From kaskas at cox.net Wed Mar 28 12:31:10 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:31:10 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <7927218D8B144624A88445597D12E8BD@Charly> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com>, , <7927218D8B144624A88445597D12E8BD@Charly> Message-ID: Making a new needle in a drill press or other is not a big job, BUT, making a matching needle is a BIG DEAL. Be certfain to take measurments along the needle so you at least have a half chance of making a matching pair of needles. this is nearly as sensative for a street machine as a race car. Somehere in on of my books I explained how make a device to do all this with some deegree of accuracy. Never be beaten by equipment > From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com > To: lang at isis.mit.edu; rfdeanes at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:34:12 -0700 > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > Interesting that the Jag needle is the preferred choice. When I was running > carbs on my TR6 I made my own needles using the specs for a Jag 3.8 motor, > my thinking was that I wanted my 6 to run like a Jag. > Reshaping a needle is fairly easy, chuck up the needle in a drill and use > some emery cloth to shape it as you rotate it. I created a gauge with marks > on it every 1/8" to measure the diameter as I went. very easy to do and > worked very well, nice to have a couple of extra needles to experiment with. > > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert M. Lang" > To: "Robert Deanes" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Robert Deanes wrote: > > > >> Joe Curto can help you out with the needles > > > > Oddly enough, when I called Joe C. and gave him my engine specs, he wasn't > > really able to suggest anything. I had seen a suggestion for the B1AR, so > > I bought those... > > > > Poking around a bit more on the web this morning, I got some ideas on what > > to look for, but I have to measure what I have first before I will be > > buying anything. > > > > I know about the SU needles too. The fact that there are so many choices > > was the basis of the query. > > > > regards, > > rml > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > Former NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas at cox.net From cartravel at pobox.com Wed Mar 28 13:21:25 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:21:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> Is the shim stock used to make the diameter of the end larger? Please explain. There are lists and even a little Windows program for all the SU needles. Is similar data available for the Stromberg needles? I have reshaped SU needles as suggested. I made some that worked well and then ordered a matching set from Joe Curto. Thanks, Larry On 3/28/2012 7:10 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs with > the use of shim stock. > > thought i would mention it, anyway. > > it provides a lot of choices > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert M. Lang > To: gregmogdoc > Cc: fot > Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > Hi, > > Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with > Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote > down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I > cannot confirm that (yet). > > In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm > that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. > > In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. > > The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on > the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com From kaskas at cox.net Wed Mar 28 13:46:33 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:46:33 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> References: , , <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com>, <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> Message-ID: I explain this in one of my early books. How to use an SU needle in a Stromberg carb: The difference in the shank of each needle is .013". The SU being the smaller. So I made a little tube out of .006" shim stock cut in half length wise which left me a half tube. Fit the half tube around the needle shank with the open side of the tube towards the grub screw which hold the needle in position. You will never notice the .0005" differnce in the diameters. I did this first in 1968 and works just as well today. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:21:25 -0500 > From: cartravel at pobox.com > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > Is the shim stock used to make the diameter of the end larger? Please > explain. > > There are lists and even a little Windows program for all the SU > needles. Is similar data available for the Stromberg needles? > > I have reshaped SU needles as suggested. I made some that worked well > and then ordered a matching set from Joe Curto. > Thanks, > Larry > > On 3/28/2012 7:10 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs with > > the use of shim stock. > > > > thought i would mention it, anyway. > > > > it provides a lot of choices > > > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > A. R. E. > > 645 1st Street > > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > > 319.464.4711 (cell) > > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert M. Lang > > To: gregmogdoc > > Cc: fot > > Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with > > Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote > > down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I > > cannot confirm that (yet). > > > > In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm > > that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. > > > > In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. > > > > The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on > > the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): > > > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm > > > > regards, > > rml > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > Former NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas at cox.net From tr4racing at googlemail.com Wed Mar 28 15:49:05 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:49:05 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> Is Jim Lee known to the group? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q Cheers Chris From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Wed Mar 28 16:15:37 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:15:37 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> Message-ID: <26C5683C-4C89-4DF0-A6FF-51155D4D02BD@austin.rr.com> Yes, he's a Texas guy. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Is Jim Lee known to the group? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From igofaster at att.net Wed Mar 28 16:18:32 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> Message-ID: <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> dang.... I was crying!!! awesome! Bobby ________________________________ From: MadMarx To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 4:49:05 PM Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee Is Jim Lee known to the group? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From cartravel at pobox.com Wed Mar 28 17:39:31 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:39:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: , , <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com>, <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4F73A133.3040100@pobox.com> Kas, I'm sure I speak for others as well, but there is just too much in your books to keep it all in my feeble brain. Thank you for writing it down. On 3/28/2012 2:46 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > I explain this in one of my early books. How to use an SU needle in a > Stromberg carb: The difference in the shank of each needle is > .013". The SU being the smaller. So I made a little tube out of .006" > shim stock cut in half length wise which left me a half tube. Fit the > half tube around the needle shank with the open side of the tube > towards the grub screw which hold the needle in position. You will > never notice the .0005" differnce in the diameters. I did this first > in 1968 and works just as well today. > > Never be beaten by equipment From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Wed Mar 28 17:45:23 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:45:23 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jim still has that TR4. He comes to TWS every once in a while. His brother John is a more regular visitor. The TR4 was John's first but he is a Mini guy now, but not a racer. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > dang.... I was crying!!! awesome! Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: MadMarx > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 4:49:05 PM > Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee > > Is Jim Lee known to the group? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From jason at multivintage.com Wed Mar 28 17:50:59 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:50:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just checked my log books. My GT6+ was racing there that weekend. Don't see it in this video though. Probably broke a trans or something.... Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 GT6+ #27 On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > dang.... I was crying!!! awesome! Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: MadMarx > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 4:49:05 PM > Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee > > Is Jim Lee known to the group? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From jason at multivintage.com Wed Mar 28 18:58:49 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:58:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy Message-ID: A Moment of Awesomeness. I am lucky to have very detailed visual memory. I just drifted away for moment of awesomeness as I thought about FOT and how cool the Triumph Life has become. All these images of race cars in my head; legendary, old, new. The people and the cars... heroes. Builders, Drivers, Crew, Entrepreneurs, Manufactures, Teachers. Several generations with dedication to Racing Triumphs lurk here and respond in kind. Never has the small Triumph Racing niche been so BIG. The 10th Kastner Cup Race... Road Atlanta... Holy crap. 1 more month. Sending my official entry in the morning. Until then, I'll be in my garage.... getting ready. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 28 19:06:06 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEDB5F40CAD94B-1C78-DA53@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Pretty profound Jason...... And mostly it has to do with people. The Mitty will bring it all together very nicely. We will miss those who are unable to make it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 7:59 pm Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy A Moment of Awesomeness. I am lucky to have very detailed visual memory. I just drifted away for moment of awesomeness as I thought about FOT and how cool the Triumph Life has become. All these images of race cars in my head; legendary, old, new. The people and the cars... heroes. Builders, Drivers, Crew, Entrepreneurs, Manufactures, Teachers. Several generations with dedication to Racing Triumphs lurk here and respond in kind. Never has the small Triumph Racing niche been so BIG. The 10th Kastner Cup Race... Road Atlanta... Holy crap. 1 more month. Sending my official entry in the morning. Until then, I'll be in my garage.... getting ready. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From horizonracing at msn.com Thu Mar 29 08:58:27 2012 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:58:27 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR hearld Message-ID: Good Day all, I'm in the need of a pair of brake caipler mounts for the Triumph hearld upright or vertal link. please contact me off list. Thank you Tony Garmey From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 29 15:14:31 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION Message-ID: <8CEDC08111B2B7E-E84-13EE@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. re: John Styduhar He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at BEAVERRUN. John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be nice to add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. What say ye, FOT? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu Mar 29 15:16:54 2012 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION Message-ID: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> Another TR3! I second! Welcome John Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. > > re: John Styduhar > > He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. > > His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at > BEAVERRUN. > > John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be > nice to > add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. > > What say ye, FOT? > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 29 15:25:19 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION In-Reply-To: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> References: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> Message-ID: <8CEDC099212A984-E84-1587@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> Thanks Todd! OK John, you are in....and can now compare notes with list members on a global basis. Mark Bradakis..... John Styduhar = johnstydo at gmail.com PLUNK YOUR MAGIC TWANGER, one more time. = -----Original Message----- From: Todd Redmond Subject: RE: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION Another TR3! I second! Welcome John Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. > > re: John Styduhar > > He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. > > His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at > BEAVERRUN. > > John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be > nice to > add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. > > What say ye, FOT? > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 29 17:08:50 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1333062530.43416.YahooMailRC@web180818.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> so I'm counting three GT-6's so far with me, Jason, and Bill Newman... is there another one or two? Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 7:58:49 PM Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy A Moment of Awesomeness. I am lucky to have very detailed visual memory. I just drifted away for moment of awesomeness as I thought about FOT and how cool the Triumph Life has become. All these images of race cars in my head; legendary, old, new. The people and the cars... heroes. Builders, Drivers, Crew, Entrepreneurs, Manufactures, Teachers. Several generations with dedication to Racing Triumphs lurk here and respond in kind. Never has the small Triumph Racing niche been so BIG. The 10th Kastner Cup Race... Road Atlanta... Holy crap. 1 more month. Sending my official entry in the morning. Until then, I'll be in my garage.... getting ready. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 29 18:56:44 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:56:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION In-Reply-To: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> References: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> Message-ID: Great ! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > Another TR3! > > I second! > > Welcome John > > Todd Redmond > 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. >> >> re: John Styduhar >> >> He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. >> >> His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at BEAVERRUN. >> >> John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be nice to >> add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. >> >> What say ye, FOT? >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 29 18:59:19 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:59:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION In-Reply-To: <8CEDC099212A984-E84-1587@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> References: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> <8CEDC099212A984-E84-1587@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7469AE77-7435-4C23-9098-76968426D1B1@gdhs.com> Hey John.....just make sure your 3 is not as fast as mine! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Thanks Todd! > > OK John, you are in....and can now compare notes with list members on a global > basis. > > Mark Bradakis..... John Styduhar = johnstydo at gmail.com > > PLUNK YOUR MAGIC TWANGER, one more time. > > > > > > > = > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Redmond > > Subject: RE: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER > CONSTRUCTION > > > Another TR3! > > I second! > > Welcome John > > Todd Redmond > 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. >> >> re: John Styduhar >> >> He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. >> >> His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at >> BEAVERRUN. >> >> John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be >> nice to >> add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. >> >> What say ye, FOT? >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From mini at wi.rr.com Thu Mar 29 19:31:25 2012 From: mini at wi.rr.com (Richard Gehweiler) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:31:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Repair Shop Message-ID: <4F750CED.5080506@wi.rr.com> We have a customer that has temporarily moved to the south western San Francisco Bay area. We have taken care of her much loved TR6 for years and just shipped it to her from Wisconsin. Any recommendations for a reputable repair shop in that area? She is a very nice person and has been a great customer, but is not very knowledgeable about cars, so we don't want someone who is going to take advantage of her. I will pass any FOT recommendations on to her. Thanks Richard Gehweiler Stonefield Vintage, LLC. From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Thu Mar 29 22:47:01 2012 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:47:01 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Repair Shop In-Reply-To: <4F750CED.5080506@wi.rr.com> References: <4F750CED.5080506@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: That would be Greg Solows territory. jg Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Richard Gehweiler wrote: > We have a customer that has temporarily moved to the south western > San Francisco Bay area. We have taken care of her much loved TR6 for > years and just shipped it to her from Wisconsin. Any recommendations > for a reputable repair shop in that area? She is a very nice person > and has been a great customer, but is not very knowledgeable about > cars, so we don't want someone who is going to take advantage of > her. I will pass any FOT recommendations on to her. > > Thanks > > Richard Gehweiler > Stonefield Vintage, LLC. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sat Mar 31 16:00:23 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Spiitfire rear springs Message-ID: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Group: I again need to borrow from the collective wisdom of the group, this time concerning Spitfire rear leaf springs. I have a customer with a Spit-Six that has excessive positive camber. The rear is built using the higher ratio GT6 diff, an early GT6 rear spring, and early, narrow axles. I am well aware of Kas's recommendation to de-arch the springs on the early non-pivot type spring to 3.5", but what complicates this is that the owner used the GT6 spring, which has eight leafs instead of the seven leafs used in the Spitfire. Obviously the GT6 used the additional leaf to aid in support of the extra weight in the rear, but, I do not know which leaf to remove to make the spring have the same rate as the Spit. I do not have any non-pivot type in the shop to measure the leaf lengths. Do any list members have a Spit non-pivoting leaf spring available to measure the spring lengths? Perhaps a lister has been through this before? I know I will more than likely still have to de-arch the spring, but at least we can get closer to the desired height/rate by removing the unwanted leaf. I also have another question for the group. Perhaps all the engineering degrees are getting in the way of common sense, or vice-verse. If the distance between the eyelets on the spring are X, wouldn't de-arching (flattening out) the spring spread the eyelets further apart (straightening out a curve)? Wouldn't this move the top of the vertical links out farther? Wouldn't that add positive camber? We know we de-arch to add negative camber (we have all seen it happen), but my mind keeps asking why it doesn't go more positive. My son, who is also a Aerospace Engineering student at UTA, and I have put pencil to paper together and come up with the tops of the links moving outward. but nature is contradicting us. Some incite please. Thanks Ed Barnard From tony at tonydrews.com Sat Mar 31 16:16:38 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:16:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head, can it be repaired? Message-ID: I found the source of my "head gasket" leaks - a cracked head. It's cracked around the inner circumference of where it meets the liner in #4 cylinder. Picture is here: http://www.tonydrews.com/Test%20Pics/2012_0331Head_Crack0007.JPG Is this something that can be fixed, or should I start brushing up on my head porting techniques and build another head? Thanks, Tony Drews Hoping to make the Mitty still... From tr6nut at verizon.net Sat Mar 31 16:24:51 2012 From: tr6nut at verizon.net (Hugh Barber) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:24:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spiitfire rear springs In-Reply-To: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F778433.3070809@verizon.net> Ed, We are talking about swing axles. The connection between the hubs and the axles are fixed (there is only a u-joint on the inner end of the axles). Therefore, when you de-arch the spring, you get more negative camber. Hugh Barber On 3/31/2012 06:00, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > ..... > Perhaps all the engineering degrees are getting in the way of common sense, or > vice-verse. If the distance between the eyelets on the spring are X, wouldn't > de-arching (flattening out) the spring spread the eyelets further apart > (straightening out a curve)? Wouldn't this move the top of the vertical links > out farther? Wouldn't that add positive camber? We know we de-arch to add > negative camber (we have all seen it happen), but my mind keeps asking why it > doesn't go more positive. My son, who is also a Aerospace Engineering student > at UTA, and I have put pencil to paper together and come up with the tops of > the links moving outward. but nature is contradicting us. > Some incite please. > Thanks > Ed Barnard From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Mar 31 17:29:07 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head, can it be repaired? In-Reply-To: <20120331223502.1E46E2D08F0@autox.team.net> References: <20120331223502.1E46E2D08F0@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8CEDDAD33DA3455-C50-49CA@webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com> There is a place in Nevada, Iowa that specializes in that kind of repair. Certainly it would be worth having them do the fix. I'll start googling their contact info. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot Sent: Sat, Mar 31, 2012 5:35 pm Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head, can it be repaired? I found the source of my "head gasket" leaks - a cracked head. It's cracked around the inner circumference of where it meets the liner in #4 cylinder. Picture is here: http://www.tonydrews.com/Test%20Pics/2012_0331Head_Crack0007.JPG Is this something that can be fixed, or should I start brushing up on my head porting techniques and build another head? Thanks, Tony Drews Hoping to make the Mitty still... _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Mar 31 17:39:50 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] midwestcylinderhead.com Message-ID: <8CEDDAEB2F6FE43-C50-4A59@webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com> good website..........we have a head we should take there, too. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From mark at bradakis.com Sat Mar 31 19:20:23 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:20:23 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Spiitfire rear springs In-Reply-To: <4F778433.3070809@verizon.net> References: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4F778433.3070809@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4F77AD57.5050904@bradakis.com> Look at a clock. A good old fashioned round one, with two hands and numbers. Suppose the minute hand is pointing to 4. Suppose the minute hand is your axle, with the wheel perpendicular to it. What would the camber look like? Now suppose the minute hand or axle is pointing to 3, which is a bit further out than the 4. What does that camber look like? mjb. From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Mar 1 04:46:34 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 06:46:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Registrants Message-ID: We got the word from HSR yesterday, only 19 of us registered so far. Not the strong showing I was hoping for! This is why everybody needs to seriously consider this event: Track time. We will have our own run group. If we reasonably fill the group, we will be running with only Triumphs all weekend! In addition to the normal race schedule, we are getting a bonus session Saturday afternoon for the Kastner Cup race. On Sunday, we are getting the Small Bore Enduro for free! For an extra $260, we can run in the Triumph group AND the HSR Group 2 all weekend. You guys bringing two drivers, this is cheap track time! Plus Thursday is available as a test day. Full Cash Refund. Sign up for the fun, pay your money and if you need to cancel anytime before rolling your race car off the trailer in the paddock, HSR promises a full cash refund. Huge Triumph turnout expected. Both race cars and street cars. An all Triumph car show and other activities are going on thanks to the Georgia Triumphs Association. Triumph VIP's. Kas Kastner, Bob Tullius, Jack Wheeler, Bob Johns, and more. Talk racing with the legends in our sport! Parties: Our friends at Classic Motorsports have been doing this for a while, and have figured out how to put on a great time. Tim Suddard is buying the beer. Really. I am not kidding... (Again, thanks Tim!) Triumphs ARE the featured Marque. This is an event centered around us for a change. I believe we have been able to get everything we needed from the organizers to make this an event worthy the our significant anniversaries we are celebrating. 60 years of Triumph Sports Cars 50 years of Spitfires 10th running for the Kastner Cup Hope to see you all there! Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com From sjanzen at me.com Thu Mar 1 09:00:29 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 11:00:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 References: <4C720C17-D7A2-4267-8AD8-A31AF0F74991@REcatalyst.com> Message-ID: <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I can make. Scott Triumph GT6 From cartravel at pobox.com Thu Mar 1 09:21:00 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 10:21:00 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4FA1EC.8080805@pobox.com> Bob, thanks for the race report. Glad to hear the CVAR Triumphs are now back in full force. When I was running there were a few times when there were one or none. Who lit the fire under Bobby or did someone pawn a supercharger? Last time I saw him run, he was closer to the back than the front. Way to go. On 2/28/2012 12:57 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Part 2 From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 1 09:38:58 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 In-Reply-To: <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> References: <4C720C17-D7A2-4267-8AD8-A31AF0F74991@REcatalyst.com> <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> Message-ID: Me and my TR3A will be there...... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. 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IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:00 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I can make. Scott Triumph GT6 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From mediehljr at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 11:07:39 2012 From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:07:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 1 11:11:11 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:11:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CEC5EDD0E025AB-1280-11E84@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> OH MY.....a GT6 shootout! 2nd Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 12:08 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jason at multivintage.com Thu Mar 1 11:14:20 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:14:20 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <8CEC5EDD0E025AB-1280-11E84@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> References: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CEC5EDD0E025AB-1280-11E84@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <159753284-1330625660-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-417383623-@b28.c3.bise6.blackberry> Can't wait! I second! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+ Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:11:11 To: ; Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination OH MY.....a GT6 shootout! 2nd Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 12:08 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From rfdeanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:16:24 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:16:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 In-Reply-To: <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> References: <4C720C17-D7A2-4267-8AD8-A31AF0F74991@REcatalyst.com> <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> Message-ID: I am sure the whole "Ghetto" will be there, we usually have 15 or more TRs and this year should be no exception, lots of track time and good food and friends.Great event, good opportunity to see why we like VIR, you come and you will be back next year ! On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's > two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I > can make. > > Scott > Triumph GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From BillDentin at aol.com Thu Mar 1 11:20:35 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:20:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 Message-ID: <44663.2d7134d3.3c8117f3@aol.com> In a message dated 03/01/2012 10:04:13 AM Central Standard Time, sjanzen at me.com writes: > I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's > two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I > can make. > I won't be there, but I am pretty sure it is on Bob Wismer's list. He should be there in his TR4. Bill Dentinger From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 11:24:17 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:24:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1330626257.73662.YahooMailRC@web180809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of 18 so far??? A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From John.Reed at wilson.com Thu Mar 1 12:01:49 2012 From: John.Reed at wilson.com (Reed, John) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:01:49 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1330626257.73662.YahooMailRC@web180809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. John Reed Zippy Racing #69 BRG DP GT6+ On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of 18 so far??? A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed at wilson.com John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services [cid:3413451709_120557496] Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] From spitlist at cox.net Thu Mar 1 12:26:20 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:26:20 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Rick Kristoff Message-ID: <75AF79BD6E754A478333A3DD1CCAC9C1@Vista> Sorry to bomb the list, but would Rick Kristoff please contact me. Thanks, Joe Curry From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 1 12:59:11 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:59:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEC5FCE7D4D273-1280-12C60@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> yes! it's not too late. just do it! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Reed, John To: Bobby Whitehead ; Ed Diehl Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 1:02 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. John Reed Zippy Racing #69 BRG DP GT6+ On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of 18 so far??? A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed at wilson.com John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services [cid:3413451709_120557496] Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Mar 1 13:18:09 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty References: Message-ID: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> I also know Tim Suddard is planning on bringing the Group 44 GT6 that he just restored. I think the current plan is it will be a static display, as they are planning on selling the car at one of the big auctions this year. Sounds like we might just have one heck of a gaggle of GT6's down there. It would be great to see Zippy on track again, John! Scott Janzen, are you listening??? Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reed, John" > WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. From jason at multivintage.com Thu Mar 1 13:49:00 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:49:00 -0600 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 From sjanzen at me.com Thu Mar 1 14:47:48 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:47:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> I'd love to be there. It would be like, I think it was the 1971 runoffs, with six GT6s in the race. My car was one of them. Too much of a tow for me and I've got too much day job work to do. On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com From rfdeanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 15:17:26 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:17:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> Message-ID: It will be years before the Kasner Cup is back on the east coast....plenty of time to plan it ! On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I'd love to be there. It would be like, I think it was the 1971 runoffs, > with six GT6s in the race. My car was one of them. > Too much of a tow for me and I've got too much day job work to do. > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" > > Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. > Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. > > Hee Hee > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From rfdeanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 15:18:31 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:18:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> Message-ID: now if I can just spell !! long day On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I'd love to be there. It would be like, I think it was the 1971 runoffs, > with six GT6s in the race. My car was one of them. > Too much of a tow for me and I've got too much day job work to do. > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" > > Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. > Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. > > Hee Hee > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From cwnfot at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 16:32:36 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:32:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FS: Small journal Spitfire 1300 Message-ID: <02c501ccf803$963c8240$c2b586c0$@com> I came across an engine (and transmission) on EBay that is from a 1967 Mk3. The auction ended soon after I came upon it. Block number is: FE 14320 E EBay item is (it is still viewable): 170786971933 Item location: Birdsboro Pa which is South-East of Reading, PA Starting bid was $80 I contacted the seller, he has already sold the dual carb intake manifold. I told him of the thrust washer concern. He can be contacted at: tom kelly [tommmmmy at netzero.net] I have no interest other than saving it from the scrap-yard! Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From mlcooknj at msn.com Thu Mar 1 17:11:44 2012 From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:11:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> References: , <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: I'm tickled about the GT6 being "static". Last time I saw it, the car had a problem - it wanted to run on two cylinders but couldn't decide which two. It took the longest parade lap in RA history. Mike Cook > From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com > To: fot at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:18:09 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty > > I also know Tim Suddard is planning on bringing the Group 44 GT6 that he > just restored. I think the current plan is it will be a static display, as > they are planning on selling the car at one of the big auctions this year. > > Sounds like we might just have one heck of a gaggle of GT6's down there. It > would be great to see Zippy on track again, John! > > Scott Janzen, are you listening??? > > Henry > yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reed, John" > > > > WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj at msn.com From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 18:35:20 2012 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Windows Live Team) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 01:35:20 +0000 Subject: [Fot] weight on cars Message-ID: I heard that SCCA is requiring that your car's weight must be on your car for this year. I can't get any info from SCCA. Does anyone know where it goes on the cars and how high the letters must be. Thanks, Lorne From cwnfot at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:19:56 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:19:56 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [FOT] weight on cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02e101ccf81a$f6c02f10$e4408d30$@com> Everything should be in the SCCA GCR's Link to which at this location: http://www.scca.com/clubracing/content.cfm?cid=44472 Of course, should doesn't mean it is... Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 19:30:29 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:30:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1330655429.32131.YahooMailRC@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> as long as I can climb in and climb out of my car without cause... I'll be racing.... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "Reed, John" To: Bobby Whitehead ; Ed Diehl Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 1:01:49 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Re: [Fot] Nomination WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe itbs time I came out of retirement. John Reed Zippy Racing #69 BRG DP GT6+ On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of >18 so far??? > >A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... > >Bobby Whitehead >#39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ > > > > >________________________________ >From: Ed Diehl >To: fot >Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM >Subject: [Fot] Nomination > >Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of >Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida >Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been >doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently >smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in >the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. >Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, >1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we >have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman >(mnewman at embarqmail.com) > >Cheers, > >Ed Diehl >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed at wilson.com > > > > John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 19:34:20 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:34:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: <1330655660.49710.YahooMailRC@web180818.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I went to the Mitty several years back for the 40th anniversary of Group 44 particularly just to see the Group 44 GT6... if I had a butt load of money I'd buy that car! Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "yellow04 at tr4racer.com" To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:18:09 PM Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty I also know Tim Suddard is planning on bringing the Group 44 GT6 that he just restored. I think the current plan is it will be a static display, as they are planning on selling the car at one of the big auctions this year. Sounds like we might just have one heck of a gaggle of GT6's down there. It would be great to see Zippy on track again, John! Scott Janzen, are you listening??? Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reed, John" > WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 19:37:16 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:37:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a roadster but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ The Pawn Star of CVAR ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:49:00 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:43:24 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:43:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EA5756B-E4AE-4834-9F9D-FFE18C0C3744@gmail.com> The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 1 20:08:33 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:08:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s In-Reply-To: <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Spitfires and GT6s: Right now it is the plan to have the publisher of your namesake magazine, SPITFIRES AND GT6s, at the MITTY to cover your antics off and on the track. Kas has already submitted a worthy article to them in recent days. We should get some nice coverage from them Jason, they may want to discuss your AMBRO-GT6 project. I wish Chuck Gee and Jerry Barker were coming, along with Steve Smith and Scott Janzen, but it's such a big country and we understand we cant have everything. RIP our old GT6 friend Ed Ceilley.....many would not know this but Dr. Ed Ceilley stitched son Sean up when he was about two years old. Sean is 48 now Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 8:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a roadster but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ The Pawn Star of CVAR ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:49:00 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:43:24 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:43:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EA5756B-E4AE-4834-9F9D-FFE18C0C3744@gmail.com> The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 20:34:23 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:34:23 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red From chasgee at aol.com Thu Mar 1 21:01:15 2012 From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:01:15 -0800 Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s In-Reply-To: <8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> I think Jerry Barker is coming with his national championship Spitfire he recently re-acquired. Chuck On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Spitfires and GT6s: > > Right now it is the plan to have the publisher of your namesake magazine, > SPITFIRES AND GT6s, at the MITTY to cover your antics off and on the track. > > Kas has already submitted a worthy article to them in recent days. We should > get some nice coverage from them > > Jason, they may want to discuss your AMBRO-GT6 project. > > I wish Chuck Gee and Jerry Barker were coming, along with Steve Smith and > Scott Janzen, but it's such a big country and we understand we cant have > everything. > > RIP our old GT6 friend Ed Ceilley.....many would not know this but Dr. Ed > Ceilley stitched son Sean up when he was about two years old. Sean is 48 now > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bobby Whitehead > To: Jason Ostrowski > Cc: FoT Triumph > Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 8:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty > > > okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, > > "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a > roadster > > but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ > The Pawn Star of CVAR > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jason Ostrowski > To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com > Cc: Friends of Triumph > Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:49:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" > > Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. > Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. > > Hee Hee > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee at aol.com From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Mar 1 21:58:56 2012 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:58:56 -0600 Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s In-Reply-To: <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local><1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> Message-ID: When I talked to him a couple of weeks ago, he was busy putting the car together. He told me he was hoping to make the K-Cup. Scott Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- From: chasgee at aol.com To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Mar 2, 2012 04:01:15 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s From harmug at us.ibm.com Fri Mar 2 07:16:25 2012 From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:16:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 64, Issue3 Car weight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lorne, D. Displaying Minimum Weight Except for classes in which there is only 1 required minimum weight (i.e., ASR, FB, FC, FE, FF, FM, FS, FST, FV, SM5, SRF), all cars shall display the correct minimum weight specified in the current GCR in a manner that is clearly legible to the scrutineers at the scales. Cars that are run in more than one class must display the correct minimum weight for each class so that it is clear which weight applies to each class. The size and location are pretty vague. I protested this when it was first proposed. I don't want to make more work for the scrutineers, but we do have computers and smart phones these days, the information is readily available. I don't want my 63 Spit to have the GVW listed on it like a bread delivery truck. mike Will be at the Mitty, numbers and all G. Michael Harmuth From BillDentin at aol.com Fri Mar 2 08:04:28 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:04:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty Message-ID: <56a8e.747b7e5a.3c823b7c@aol.com> In a message dated 03/01/2012 8:41:12 PM Central Standard Time, igofaster at att.net writes: > okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, > > "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a > roadster > but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! > The Poor Man's XKE. I wish to hell I fit in one. Bill (Damdinger) From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 2 14:04:33 2012 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 16:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Sebring Message-ID: <000601ccf8b8$125e90c0$371bb240$@sbcglobal.net> Amici, Anyone from this esteemed group going to Sebring? Either to race, spectate or vend? Ted? I can probably be found at the 3,4,5,6 complex again this year. Track side of the fence. Doug Detroit Region and MTM F&C -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel at sbcglobal.net From rikrock at live.com Fri Mar 2 15:29:27 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:29:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System -SCCA Message-ID: Here's what I got from SCCA so far. x-store-info: sbevkl2QZR7OXo7WID5ZcdV2tiiWGqTnu8ByXefjVR0sCetct54Iblo2yXWIlSUJwJ3KELJuvDiBOddosTxKsFIhVixr2IJkNifqoHlk94LSdr9giehnSQ== Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=fail (sender IP is 174.120.20.98) header.from=rmiles at scca.com; dkim=none header.d=scca.com; x-hmca=fail X-Message-Status: n:0:n X-SID-PRA: rmiles at scca.com X-SID-Result: Fail X-DKIM-Result: None X-AUTH-Result: FAIL X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MTtHRD0xO1NDTD0w X-Message-Info: NhFq/7gR1vTj2Z7xd9Dl7hxgAmJ2mWq2TMVhlUuFk4WrgwmibX0RypTzzg7duAfJBD2f08vATn7vCtQsuy3ny+FD95MhYOwTnyocOHn8BR8SEqkYiH4l8ZO3HxVOlCbP Received: from gator856.hostgator.com ([174.120.20.98]) by BAY0-MC4-F13.Bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900); Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:18:54 -0800 Received: from jbauer12 by gator856.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S3I57-0006Ih-Pa for rikrock at live.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:18:53 -0600 To: rikrock at live.com Subject: SCCA Letter #7312 Update X-PHP-Script: www.crbscca.com/committee/viewdetails.php for 97.112.211.223 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rmiles at scca.com X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: InterAKT tNG mailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:18:53 -0600 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator856.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - live.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [713 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gator856.hostgator.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php /home/jbauer12/public_html/committee/viewdetails.php X-Source-Dir: crbscca.com:/public_html/committee X-Source-Auth: jbauer12 X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: amJhdWVyMTI7amJhdWVyMTI7Z2F0b3I4NTYuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Return-Path: jbauer12 at gator856.hostgator.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2012 02:18:54.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0C21440:01CCF81A] rich rock, Your letter has been reviewed by the Prod committee, and a recommendation has been made to the CRB. The CRB will review your letter and the Prod committee's recommendation on their next conference call. Your letter details are below: Letter #7312 Title: vacuum system rule clarification/explanation request Request: I'm interested in knowing why the use of an engine vacuum system which connects to the exhaust system is prohibited   (page 100 GCR).  I've seen such systems in use on cars raced in other series.Thanks,Rich Rock BMR tech inspector Thank you, CRB From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 2 18:54:16 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:54:16 -0700 Subject: [Fot] List notes Message-ID: <4F5179C8.4070800@bradakis.com> Every now and again I get a message from Mordy which consists of little more than something forwarded from someone with a Team.Net issue. Mordy has nothing to do with it, folks. The person running Team.Net is me, mjb, mark at bradakis.com. Please don't bother Mordy with stuff not in his realm. I try to keep it all running as smoothly as possible, not drawing attention to the man behind the curtain. Usually it works, but sometimes things happen. Currently there are some issues with the new server regarding the forums, the archives and some web pages. I try to get things fixed when I can - remember I do have a real job and some bit of life outside of Team.Net. I better have everything up to snuff soon, the annual fund drive will be coming up and I want folks to be happy with the service! There was an unusual interruption last night. For various reasons my wife's Windows machine is over there on the floor and the new Team.Net server is up in the living room where she can make use of it temporarily while I work on getting things back in their proper places. So she's working on the computer last night, she basically just needs a simple web browser. She finishes up and then shuts off the machine. Yep, she just turns off Team.Net. Nice. Of course I always threaten to do that when something goes awry, have been for the last 20+ years, will probably continue to threaten. But I don't really mean it. I'll have her machine back in its proper place this weekend. If anyone is going to just shutdown Team.Net it better be me! mjb. From mediehljr at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 06:05:16 2012 From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 05:05:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Sebring In-Reply-To: <1330779526.6822.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000601ccf8b8$125e90c0$371bb240$@sbcglobal.net> <1330779526.6822.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1330779916.99106.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ed Diehl ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Ed Diehl To: Doug Mitchell Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Sebring I will be there as usual. I will be with SCCA race control. I usually can be found driving the worker Shuttle 1. Been at this for a lotta years. Look me up. Cheers, Ed. Ed Diehl ________________________________ From: Doug Mitchell To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 4:04 PM Subject: [Fot] Sebring Amici, Anyone from this esteemed group going to Sebring? Either to race, spectate or vend? Ted? I can probably be found at the 3,4,5,6 complex again this year. Track side of the fence. Doug Detroit Region and MTM F&C -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mediehljr at yahoo.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sat Mar 3 07:03:08 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:03:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Sebring References: <000601ccf8b8$125e90c0$371bb240$@sbcglobal.net> <1330779526.6822.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1330779916.99106.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ed, my friend Brian McKie, from Grand Island, NY, will be there with his MGB. #39, kind of greenish/gray. Nice looking car and a real decent guy. Look him up and he may give you a beer! PS, how's the "Better Diehl" doing? Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Diehl" To: "fot" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 8:05 AM Subject: [Fot] Fw: Sebring > > Ed Diehl > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Ed Diehl > > To: Doug Mitchell > Sent: > Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Sebring > > > I will be there > as usual. I will be with SCCA race control. I usually can be found driving > the > worker Shuttle 1. Been at this for a lotta years. Look me up. Cheers, Ed. > > > Ed Diehl > > > ________________________________ > From: Doug Mitchell > > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 > 4:04 PM > Subject: [Fot] Sebring > > Amici, > > Anyone from this esteemed group going > to Sebring? Either to race, spectate > or vend? Ted? > > I can probably be found at > the 3,4,5,6 complex again this year. Track side > of the fence. > > Doug > Detroit > Region and MTM F&C > > -- > Doug Mitchell > dmitchel at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mediehljr at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 07:27:48 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:27:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LAST CALL FOR MITTY SHIRTS Message-ID: I am submitting the shirt order next Sunday March 11th so you have until next Saturday to get your Kastner Cup or FOT shirt orders in to me. If you have a shirt on order currently you would have received an acknowledgement email from me. If you are not sure feel free to drop me a line and I will check. Kastner Cup drivers names on the shirt. We need to finalize this by next saturday also. All the names that are currently going on the shirt are listed on the FOT-racing.com web site http://www.fot-racing.com/feature/2012mitty/participants.htm . Thanks Henry. If you are planning on racing and your name is not on the list let me know. If your name is on the list and you know you will not be attending also let me know so we can make the text bigger for those attending. Right now it looks like we will be making around 180 total shirts. The Kastner Cup shirts should be a pretty neat souvenir for this fantastic event. Marty From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Sun Mar 4 10:49:44 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 11:49:44 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> Here is a link to one of the group 4 races. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvDLoYZpko&feature=g-upl&context=G2465543AUA AAAAAAAAA Enjoy, I surely did. BTW... I spoke to the Vete driver after the race about the yellow colored thing waiving in turns 1-2 and 3. I also laughed with Duncan that my little hand wave reminded him not to pass under yellow. Great weekend all in all just missing Red No. 14. See yall at the Mitty. Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:34 PM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2 at austin.rr.com From cofrog at q.com Sun Mar 4 11:24:26 2012 From: cofrog at q.com (cofrog at q.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:24:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Gearbox Number In-Reply-To: <130172256.210345.1330885386173.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Does anyone know if a TR4 gearbox with the number 304692SM on the right side of the casing is out of a TR4 or TR4A? Thanks, Dan From TR3driver at ca.rr.com Sun Mar 4 12:03:14 2012 From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 11:03:14 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Gearbox Number In-Reply-To: <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> References: <130172256.210345.1330885386173.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <06a701ccfa39$73ef1530$0301a8c0@randall> > Does anyone know if a TR4 gearbox with the number 304692SM on > the right side of the casing is out of a TR4 or TR4A? What difference does it make? That is a casting number, and AFAIK the castings were the same between 4 and 4A. You need to look for the serial number, which I think should be on the LH side, on the boss for the clutch shaft and start with the letters CT. -- Randall From cofrog at q.com Sun Mar 4 12:34:50 2012 From: cofrog at q.com (cofrog at q.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 14:34:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] [TR] Gearbox Number Correction In-Reply-To: <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <149303509.211872.1330889690801.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Oops. I gave a casting number. The serial number is ct19808. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: cofrog at q.com To: "triumph" , "triumph fot" Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:24:26 AM Subject: [TR] Gearbox Number Does anyone know if a TR4 gearbox with the number 304692SM on the right side of the casing is out of a TR4 or TR4A? Thanks, Dan ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cofrog at q.com From sm1ski at dslextreme.com Sat Mar 3 11:12:54 2012 From: sm1ski at dslextreme.com (michael a kowalski) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:12:54 -0700 Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local><1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> Message-ID: <235E71D5CBBB43A494E2A028C92DDE00@sarako> FOT List: May I pose a question to those who know: I have never been concerned with serial numbers and sources for my Spit racecar; consequently, I have not kept up with how to document dates and details of Triumph production. However, my partner in my spitfire is restoring a TR3 and posed a lineage question about his car. Would you direct me to sources of the designations that have been found (the Moss catalogue has given us some information)? 1) Engine Number: TSF 303F 2) Transmission Number: TSF 375 3) An impression on the bottom of the passenger floorboard of the body shows a "logo" that looks like a wheeled vehicle carrying a winged "unicorn(????);" underneath that is a word, "Welsh_R?????." In a section beneath that, it looks like the date," 31___12___61(a manufacturering date of December 31st, 1961???) and a number 55090(the vehicle number of manufacture?). Any guidence in approaching the origin of these these numbers would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. mike kowalski, 1500 FP Spit From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 4 14:21:27 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:21:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] All-Triumph race at Willow Springs March 31 Message-ID: <12285961.1330896087970.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Friends, As part of VARA's "High Desert Challenge" race weekend March 31-Apr 1, there will be an all-Triumph race in addition to the regular run-groups and 2-hour enduro. Just thought I'd put the word out in case some of you guys. I signed up for the enduro and will spend most of Saturday, March 31, racing around WSR! Alert the clubs, there will be a Triumph Corral for the street car folks. ~Steve From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 4 18:20:22 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 18:20:22 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Message-ID: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 10:47:41 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:47:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. Mike From: Mark J Bradakis To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 11:06:06 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:06:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CEC911C55561C1-1DC4-4471@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> CHECK: themitty.com has the host hotel by CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS. it is the Holiday Inn Express that Mike mentions. i understand that there is a large selection, but dont have a list. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Munson To: Mark J Bradakis ; FOT Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 11:52 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. Mike From: Mark J Bradakis To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 11:24:36 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 12:24:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <8CEC911C55561C1-1DC4-4471@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CEC911C55561C1-1DC4-4471@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <793D2D2D-F071-488F-BC7F-EA14A34D6BE0@yahoo.com> There are others in the area, the ones I mentioned were the only ones I could recommend. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > CHECK: themitty.com has the host hotel by CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS. > > it is the Holiday Inn Express that Mike mentions. > > i understand that there is a large selection, but dont have a list. > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Munson > To: Mark J Bradakis ; FOT > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 11:52 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu > Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new > Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia > exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. > > Mike > From: Mark J > Bradakis > To: Friends of Triumph > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > What are > some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From cofrog at q.com Mon Mar 5 11:29:51 2012 From: cofrog at q.com (cofrog at q.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:29:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Gearbox Number Followup In-Reply-To: <734527664.240334.1330972155519.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <141375994.240367.1330972191772.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Thanks to all who responded. I figured it was an early TR4 gearbox but was confused as it had a short cover for the later clutch. Dan From BillDentin at aol.com Mon Mar 5 11:36:11 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:36:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Message-ID: <61ebb.83403bb.3c86619b@aol.com> Amici... While we have no first hand past experience for racing at Road Atlanta, Bob Wismer and I have made reservations at the Comfort Inn & Suites Near Lake Lanier. We understand it is about 18-20 minutes from the track. Bill Dentinger From rjohns at woh.rr.com Mon Mar 5 12:00:41 2012 From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:00:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Hotels Message-ID: <2E7B8E12070642299AEA9FD25ADFA506@Bucktailus> I ended up reserving through Travelocity in Gainesville at the Hilton Garden Inn. Bob Johns From jhhasty at gdhs.com Mon Mar 5 13:25:34 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1DC97B04934C4D5E89EF6787A2F0F382@gdhs.local> The H. I. Ex. Is full.....next exit south had a number of motels.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. 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On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. Mike From: Mark J Bradakis To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Mon Mar 5 17:36:34 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:36:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> Can you camp out at the track? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 17:54:56 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:54:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> Message-ID: <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our trips to the track. we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i have not checked. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: william r tobin To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Can you camp out at the track? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jason at multivintage.com Mon Mar 5 18:37:50 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:37:50 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 5 19:01:01 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 18:01:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1330999261.25834.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I sent my Mitty Registration in today - Joan and I will stay at the track. I like waking up to the sound of a race engine, and the smell of napalm. Dennis The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 19:05:26 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:05:26 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <607F0B16-3B06-47B6-BD02-FB3F0AF254D4@yahoo.com> That bringing in alcohol rule gets abused frequently! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. > But have never been there before. > The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires > and bringing in alcohol. > Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. > How does the beer thing work? > can this be true? > Please advise. > > Jason FGR. > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our >> trips >> to the track. >> >> we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i >> have not checked. >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: william r tobin >> To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph >> >> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >> Can you camp out at the track? >> Thanks, Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark J Bradakis" >> To: "Friends of Triumph" >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >>> What are some recommended places to stay in the area? >>> >>> mjb. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Mon Mar 5 19:11:31 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:11:31 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001101ccfb3e$74c407d0$5e4c1770$@rr.com> In my limited racing experience, the bench racing that occurs after dark at the track is most enjoyable. I had planned on camping with all the FOT folks that I have not had the pleasure of meeting. Glad to hear there are at least of few of you guys planning to rough it at the track. All of us TxFOT folks plan on camping as well. There might even be some beer hidden in the back of the suburban...or Bobby's blacked-out windowless shag-carpeted van. Speaking of staying at the track, will one of you more local guys have a grill at the track? I'd hate to drag my full size set-up all the way from Austin. Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:38 PM To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2 at austin.rr.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 19:18:57 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:18:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <001101ccfb3e$74c407d0$5e4c1770$@rr.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <001101ccfb3e$74c407d0$5e4c1770$@rr.com> Message-ID: <8CEC9569F0032D0-AC0-6FC3@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> wandering around the paddock in morning with a fresh cup of my own coffee is a very good experience Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Greg & Alison Blake To: 'Jason Ostrowski' ; 'Joe Alexander' Cc: FOT Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 8:11 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In my limited racing experience, the bench racing that occurs after dark at the track is most enjoyable. I had planned on camping with all the FOT folks that I have not had the pleasure of meeting. Glad to hear there are at least of few of you guys planning to rough it at the track. All of us TxFOT folks plan on camping as well. There might even be some beer hidden in the back of the suburban...or Bobby's blacked-out windowless shag-carpeted van. Speaking of staying at the track, will one of you more local guys have a grill at the track? I'd hate to drag my full size set-up all the way from Austin. Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:38 PM To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2 at austin.rr.com From Gt6steve at aol.com Sun Mar 4 14:29:39 2012 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 16:29:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] All-Triumph race at Willow Springs March 31 Message-ID: <1a098.3de6eb1d.3c8538c3@aol.com> That's pretty cool! I'd hoped to be there, now there's an extra incentive;-)) In a message dated 3/4/2012 1:27:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, colordog.1 at earthlink.net writes: Friends, As part of VARA's "High Desert Challenge" race weekend March 31-Apr 1, there will be an all-Triumph race in addition to the regular run-groups and 2-hour enduro. Just thought I'd put the word out in case some of you guys. I signed up for the enduro and will spend most of Saturday, March 31, racing around WSR! Alert the clubs, there will be a Triumph Corral for the street car folks. ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve at aol.com From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 6 08:17:39 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:17:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got the twin size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV loaded up with my Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my stealth guitar for howling at the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 to play $4 to shut the fudge up.... usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... Bobby Whitehead #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: william.tobin31 at verizon.net; mark at bradakis.com; FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 6:54:56 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our trips to the track. we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i have not checked. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: william r tobin To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Can you camp out at the track? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 6 08:19:14 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:19:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1331047154.27501.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> uh... BEER what? Hey I've hung with the 6pack crew there before as a spectator... the contact high was close to being inebriated ... Bobby ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 7:37:50 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From jkhagen at charter.net Tue Mar 6 09:38:38 2012 From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:38:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Message-ID: <202cf4b2.3bccdd.135e8e073e7.Webtop.49@charter.net> How special! On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > uh... BEER what? Hey I've hung with the 6pack crew there before as > a spectator... the contact high was close to being inebriated ... > > Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jason Ostrowski > To: Joe Alexander > Cc: FOT at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 7:37:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as > well. > But have never been there before. > The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against > Campfires > and bringing in alcohol. > Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. > How does the beer thing work? > can this be true? > Please advise. > > Jason FGR. > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on >> our >> trips >> to the track. >> >> we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, >> but i >> have not checked. >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: william r tobin >> To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph >> >> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >> Can you camp out at the track? >> Thanks, Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark J Bradakis" >> To: "Friends of Triumph" >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >>> What are some recommended places to stay in the area? >>> >>> mjb. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net From triosan at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 09:49:36 2012 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:49:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Anybody know if there are showers? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got the > twin > size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV loaded up with my > Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my stealth guitar for howling > at > the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 to play $4 to shut the fudge up.... > usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: william.tobin31 at verizon.net; mark at bradakis.com; FOT at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 6:54:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan at gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Mar 6 10:10:12 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:10:12 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There is a nice bathroom with a few showers in the main paddock area, close to the tower. Tony At 10:49 AM 3/6/2012, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: >Anybody know if there are showers? From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 6 10:19:52 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:19:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rd. Atl. Message-ID: <7F4F710F61CD4185AC2DB4AB79AC3180@gdhs.local> Don't know why, but every time I reply to questions about the track my response gets bounced because "it is too large" so I'll try a fresh string....there are showers in the original paddock on northeast side of front straight....don't know about the other paddock on southwest side, but I can't recall seeing any over there where I understand we are to be located. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. From triosan at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 12:26:24 2012 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:26:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Showers at the Mitty Message-ID: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley 11:24 AM (0 minutes ago) to Joe, Friends Careful Joe, I might run you out of water! Am coming in on Thursday evening, do you think I will be able to get into the campsite at about 8PM? Really look forward to this event, wish like hell I was racing! did my first track day of the year Saturday, but electrical gremlins kept me from getting very much time in. We have a new track just opening, my first time there is in two weeks, so hope to have all sorted by then. For any of you who care to look at the site it is called Ridge Motorsports Park. Runs up and down a ridge and has a somewhat Laguna like corkscrew going down. Here is a link: The *Ridge* Motorsports Park www.* ridge*motorsportspark.com/ -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Tue Mar 6 17:12:14 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 16:12:14 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] GT6 racer nor-cal on Craigslist Message-ID: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> http://bringatrailer.com/2012/03/06/1967-triumph-gt6-vintage-racer/ From dkettler1 at charter.net Tue Mar 6 19:08:56 2012 From: dkettler1 at charter.net (David Kettler) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:08:56 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Showers at the Mitty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chuck/Kathleen: Thanks for sharing this. Looks like a nice facility in a great area. I was surprised at not seeing guardrail or concrete barriers. Looks like some trees are in the runoff areas?? Dave Kettler -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 1:26 PM To: Joe Alexander ; Friends Subject: [Fot] Showers at the Mitty Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley 11:24 AM (0 minutes ago) to Joe, Friends Careful Joe, I might run you out of water! Am coming in on Thursday evening, do you think I will be able to get into the campsite at about 8PM? Really look forward to this event, wish like hell I was racing! did my first track day of the year Saturday, but electrical gremlins kept me from getting very much time in. We have a new track just opening, my first time there is in two weeks, so hope to have all sorted by then. For any of you who care to look at the site it is called Ridge Motorsports Park. Runs up and down a ridge and has a somewhat Laguna like corkscrew going down. Here is a link: The *Ridge* Motorsports Park www.* ridge*motorsportspark.com/ -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1 at charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4853 - Release Date: 03/05/12 From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Tue Mar 6 19:21:13 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 21:21:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6 racer nor-cal on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <119DC7E4-671F-4E4A-BCC4-435B7CBD4A6F@aol.com> Makes me wish I kept the gt6+ ex racer I saved from the scrap yard. I really wish I kept it. On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:12 PM, steve wrote: > http://bringatrailer.com/2012/03/06/1967-triumph-gt6-vintage-racer/ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com From mark at bradakis.com Tue Mar 6 19:40:27 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:40:27 -0700 Subject: [Fot] GT6 racer nor-cal on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <119DC7E4-671F-4E4A-BCC4-435B7CBD4A6F@aol.com> References: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <119DC7E4-671F-4E4A-BCC4-435B7CBD4A6F@aol.com> Message-ID: <4F56CA9B.2030600@bradakis.com> Looks nice, too bad it is about $12,994.32 more than I can afford right now. Of course, having a small, enclosed car like that might be a good way to motivate me to do something about my ever expanding waistline... mjb. From 4everglades at comcast.net Tue Mar 6 19:52:07 2012 From: 4everglades at comcast.net (4everglades at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 02:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheel Needed Message-ID: <633049220.2177406.1331088727922.JavaMail.root@sz0065a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I sat down to post an inquiry to see if anyone had a 13" x 6" Cosmic wheel to replace one of my set that was damaged in an accident with my Spitfire,and there was the post about the Craigs List GT- 6 with a complete set. I can't part with 12K so can anyone help me out with a single wheel or possible source. From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 6 09:15:02 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:15:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com><2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f><8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3D7E6FD963DF4E56B81302D4F46215E9@gdhs.local> Never had any problem with coolers and beer....I don't make fires on paved pit and paddock, but have seen charcoal grills etc. with no problems......don't know about the grass areas of the infield.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 8:38 PM To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, > but i have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.ne > > t > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 6 10:07:07 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:07:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com><2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f><8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes in the original paddock area.....not sure about the pro paddock across the track where I understand they plan to put all of us TR folks. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:50 AM To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Anybody know if there are showers? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got > the twin size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV > loaded up with my Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my > stealth guitar for howling at the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 > to play $4 to shut the fudge up.... > usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: william.tobin31 at verizon.net; mark at bradakis.com; FOT at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 6:54:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, > but i have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.ne > > t > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan at gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 07:34:59 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:34:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, From rikrock at live.com Wed Mar 7 08:25:14 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:25:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Vacuum System SCCA Message-ID: Just got this: x-store-info: sbevkl2QZR7OXo7WID5ZcdV2tiiWGqTnjvpvcDb633lOmLaZ5hEL/B8t2WYWD3ZHLv7yzJUMP7z3aqhQNe8w1ndGgyzvY6mgqXUYWxoPNWOxKYGdWztn5g== Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=fail (sender IP is 174.120.20.98) header.from=rmiles at scca.com; dkim=none header.d=scca.com; x-hmca=fail X-Message-Status: n:0:n X-SID-PRA: rmiles at scca.com X-SID-Result: Fail X-DKIM-Result: None X-AUTH-Result: FAIL X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MTtHRD0xO1NDTD0w X-Message-Info: NhFq/7gR1vTofWazeETSNzxNq1zItAR1UXAAc4Gt9cval14sKyYXM9GnyCWxQQf4BFo8Q89wecf2/V/6nFkB3PC1V7AweE85M9lRtXDoUlgHyxO6SkWFM9tf5df/hpD5 Received: from gator856.hostgator.com ([174.120.20.98]) by COL0-MC1-F32.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900); Wed, 7 Mar 2012 07:06:48 -0800 Received: from jbauer12 by gator856.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S5IS0-0004BJ-G4 for rikrock at live.com; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:06:48 -0600 To: rikrock at live.com Subject: SCCA CRB Letter #7312 Update X-PHP-Script: www.crbscca.com/boards/view details/index.php for 69.140.164.28 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rmiles at scca.com X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: InterAKT tNG mailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:06:48 -0600 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator856.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - live.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [713 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gator856.hostgator.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php /home/jbauer12/public_html/boards/view details/index.php X-Source-Dir: crbscca.com:/public_html/boards/view details X-Source-Auth: jbauer12 X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: amJhdWVyMTI7amJhdWVyMTI7Z2F0b3I4NTYuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Return-Path: jbauer12 at gator856.hostgator.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2012 15:06:48.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB734360:01CCFC73] rich rock, Your letter has been reviewed by the Club Racing Board. The response will be in an upcoming Fastrack. Your letter details are below: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Letter #7312 Title: vacuum system rule clarification/explanation request Request: I'm interested in knowing why the use of an engine vacuum system which connects to the exhaust system is prohibited   (page 100 GCR).  I've seen such systems in use on cars raced in other series.Thanks,Rich Rock BMR tech inspector ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Club Racing Board From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Mar 7 08:27:22 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 07:27:22 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheel Needed References: <633049220.2177406.1331088727922.JavaMail.root@sz0065a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <401166F7A1D34FAD8E3C33911D5906ED@Charly> http://www.cosmic-wheels.com/page.php?4 Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: <4everglades at comcast.net> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:52 PM Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheel Needed >I sat down to post an inquiry to see if anyone had a 13" x 6" Cosmic wheel >to replace one of my set that was damaged in an accident with my >Spitfire,and there was the post about the Craigs List GT- 6 with a complete >set. I can't part with 12K so can anyone help me out with a single wheel or >possible source. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Mar 7 08:55:25 2012 From: gasket.works at gte.net (gasket.works at gte.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:55:25 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> Why in the world would anyone want to use these? Mind you Mr. Pauter has nice products (I have a set of Pauter TR6 rods). But frankly, rods like this have absolutely no value. From all the negative feedback I have had in the past 1o+ years it seems like a waste of time and effort. Besides, it is a pain to figure out TDC. The math would say that the derivative of acceleration (jerk) is reduced at TDC and BDC and the wasted lateral side wall thrust is reduced leading to less internal piston wall heat production. Although the mid position piston speed remains unchanged. Go figure... Btw... These are short rods compared To others I know. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:34:59 To: Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net From jhhasty at gdhs.com Wed Mar 7 09:03:49 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:03:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Joe: Am sending you pictures of the 7" SCAT small block Chevy rods and JE pistions we are using. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From rikrock at live.com Wed Mar 7 09:10:41 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:10:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Vacuum System SCCA In-Reply-To: <8CECA9114792BA3-20A0-1E16@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> References: , <8CECA9114792BA3-20A0-1E16@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It's all the way down at the bottom of all that junk (which wasn't part of the email I got from SCCA) But if you can't find it, what the email said was that the CRB had reviewed the issue and that a response will be printed in an upcoming Fasttrack. (that's the SCCA rules newsletter) Rich Rock To: rikrock at live.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Vacuum System SCCA From: n197tr4 at cs.com Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:49:56 -0500 no text on the subject sent.... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Mar 7 09:21:29 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:21:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> <2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Mordy, For the benefit of the unwashed, were the "negative comments" you refer to related to Pauter rods or to 7 inch rods (in general)? I tend towards the comment referring to the rodd length, but I just wanted to be sure. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 09:24:25 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:24:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com><2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <8CECA95E541BE68-20A0-22F5@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> the length of the rod is the issue Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: gasket.works Cc: FOT Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Mordy, For the benefit of the unwashed, were the "negative comments" you refer to related to Pauter rods or to 7 inch rods (in general)? I tend towards the comment referring to the rodd length, but I just wanted to be sure. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Mar 7 09:31:07 2012 From: gasket.works at gte.net (gasket.works at gte.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:31:07 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Message-ID: <691577155-1331137866-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-716811067-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> To be clear... I have a very nice set of MR. Pauters rods (TR6). Well made and functional. Not one complaint. I have different Rods for Tr4. M ------Original Message------ From: Robert M. Lang To: Gasket works Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Sent: Mar 7, 2012 8:21 AM Mordy, For the benefit of the unwashed, were the "negative comments" you refer to related to Pauter rods or to 7 inch rods (in general)? I tend towards the comment referring to the rodd length, but I just wanted to be sure. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 7 09:48:44 2012 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:48:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Message-ID: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> The stock compression height is 2.0. There is room for the 7 inch rod, it will be right at the bottom of the oil ring groove, with a thin ring pack. The rod/stroke ratio isn't that bad on these engines but generally anything that reduces loads is a good thing... Glen -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42 am Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com From riverside at southslope.net Wed Mar 7 12:39:38 2012 From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:39:38 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <74F4BF80897E44F4B83232C493D656D3@rileyPC> Added dwell at TDC more than offsets the reduced dwell at BDC. Long rods also work on the crank at a better angle awhile after TDC. Smokey's rule was to cram in the longest rod possible. If someone has a contrary idea on the rod length issue, I would love to get clued in to it. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 10:48 AM To: n197tr4 at cs.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? The stock compression height is 2.0. There is room for the 7 inch rod, it will be right at the bottom of the oil ring groove, with a thin ring pack. The rod/stroke ratio isn't that bad on these engines but generally anything that reduces loads is a good thing... Glen -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42 am Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside at southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4855 - Release Date: 03/06/12 From barry at penybryn.ca Wed Mar 7 13:40:49 2012 From: barry at penybryn.ca (Barry Munson) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:40:49 -0700 Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks Message-ID: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> Amici - Has anyone had any experience these adjustable lever shocks? Thanks. Barry. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:21 PM To: barry at penybryn.ca Subject: Triump Lever shocks Barry, I attached a picture of the shocks. Only the knob on the valve has changed. Peter Thank you for asking about our adjustable Armstrong shocks. Having been in the remanufacturing business of Armstrong lever shocks for many, many years, we have had the opportunity to rebuild a few of the original Armstrong "Adjustable 22" externally adjustable shocks. You can find examples of these in some of the original special tuning parts manuals. Armstrong had different castings made for some of these models, but did not make them available for all of their various models of shocks. Because the body is somewhat larger and had a large adjusting knob, not all cars could be fitted with the "Adjustable 22" units. We have been able to use their same principles and apply them to a wider variety of lever shocks by employing an external and remotely mountable valve alleviating the need for new castings and fitment constraints.. The way the Adjustable 22's and our shocks work is by utilizing an extremely stiff modified main original "co-axial" valve assembly in the usual position, and providing a bypass circuit with a variable needle valve that allows adjustment of the volume of oil that passes through the co-axial main valve. (The "22" meant that Armstrong had 22 steps of adjustment.) Our valve is variable without steps, and can allow the shock to be locked solid without moving, to full, undampened movement. By machining the co-axial valve and replacing the springs with our custom made ones we succeed in providing a damping rate equivalent to full competition at 1-1/2 turns open of a potential 5 turns. The valve is of brass body full flow stainless steel needle construction. Connections between shock and valve are similar to brake hydraulic equipment. We've been able to test fit these on all of the models we offer to ensure accessibility and roadworthiness. Historically, shocks become less effective as the oil heats. Our experience has been at about 20 - 25 minutes of track work, the shocks lose their dampening. After several attempts, we are now using Redline's suspension oils, and have been very pleased with the performance, especially in this application. The modifications of the adjustable shocks are performed on our highly regarded remanufactured units. We install sleeve bearings in the bodies, install stainless shaft sleeves, and install radial lip oil seals. Pistons and bodies are selected for their proven reliability using the best combinations. Each order is custom made so that we can consider your intended use, as well as any additional equipment you may have that would affect the mounting of the valve. We also like to know if the ride height is significantly changed as we can ensure the pistons are working in their mid-range most of the time. Pricing Rears are $149.00 each Usual core charge deposits of $30.00 apply. Please let me know if you have any questions. We are always open to suggestions. Thanks again. Peter Caldwell Peter Caldwell World Wide Auto Parts of Madison 2517 Seiferth Rd. Madison WI USA 53716-3302 US WATS (800) 362-1025 (608) 223-9400 (608) 223-9403 fax www.worldwideimportautoparts.com www.nosimport.com From igofaster at att.net Wed Mar 7 14:44:18 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:44:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] $4.00 fee In-Reply-To: <3f3ca.21fc42e1.3c87867b@cs.com> References: <3f3ca.21fc42e1.3c87867b@cs.com> Message-ID: <1331156658.40893.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> well... I guess the malcontents have been sufficiently warned... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "N197TR4 at cs.com" To: igofaster at att.net Sent: Tue, March 6, 2012 9:25:47 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? This information should be posted on the FOT website as a warning. > yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got the > twin size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV loaded up with > my Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my stealth guitar for > howling at the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 to play $4 to shut the fudge > > up.... usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ > > From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 15:57:48 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:57:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP NEWS JERRY BARKER Message-ID: <8CECACCDA10FF3E-24B4-5BAB@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> If you were at Laguna Seca, you saw a dramatic drive to the finish line by Jerry Barker and his Herald. Jerry Called today and announced his plan to be at the MITTY.....with his SPITFIRE 1500. The same Spitfire he won the SCCA RUNOFFS IN 1980. That's HISTORY. He is also bringing the KASTNER CUP with him, as he was the recipient last year. I love it when a plan comes together. Marty, you can add Jerry's name to the shirt. He has his entry in. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Mar 7 16:12:30 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:12:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> Message-ID: I had looked at them once and it seemed they had a tube or something that was remotely controlled. I think I decided to not get them because it was going to cost close to $200 each by the time I got them in my hand. Maybe I should look at them again. Who's first you or me? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Munson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks > Amici - Has anyone had any experience these adjustable lever shocks? > Thanks. > Barry. > > To: barry at penybryn.ca > Subject: Triump Lever shocks > > Barry, > I attached a picture of the shocks. Only the knob on the > valve has changed. Peter > > Thank you for asking about our adjustable Armstrong shocks. > > Having been in the remanufacturing business of Armstrong lever > shocks for many, many years, we have had the opportunity to rebuild a few > of > the original Armstrong "Adjustable 22" externally adjustable shocks. You > can > find examples of these in some of the original special tuning parts > manuals. > Armstrong had different castings made for some of these models, but did > not > make them available for all of their various models of shocks. Because the > body is somewhat larger and had a large adjusting knob, not all cars could > be fitted with the "Adjustable 22" units. > > We have been able to use their same principles and apply them to a > wider variety of lever shocks by employing an external and remotely > mountable valve alleviating the need for new castings and fitment > constraints.. The way the Adjustable 22's and our shocks work is by > utilizing an extremely stiff modified main original "co-axial" > valve assembly in the usual position, and providing a bypass circuit with > a > variable needle valve that allows adjustment of the volume of oil that > passes through the co-axial main valve. (The "22" meant that Armstrong had > 22 steps of adjustment.) Our valve is variable without steps, and can > allow > the shock to be locked solid without moving, to full, undampened movement. > By machining the co-axial valve and replacing the springs with our custom > made ones we succeed in providing a damping rate equivalent to full > competition at 1-1/2 turns open of a potential 5 turns. > > The valve is of brass body full flow stainless steel needle > construction. Connections between shock and valve are similar to brake > hydraulic equipment. We've been able to test fit these on all of the > models > we offer to ensure accessibility and roadworthiness. > > Historically, shocks become less effective as the oil heats. > Our experience has been at about 20 - 25 minutes of track work, the shocks > lose their dampening. After several attempts, we are now using Redline's > suspension oils, and have been very pleased with the performance, > especially > in this application. > > The modifications of the adjustable shocks are performed on our > highly regarded remanufactured units. We install sleeve bearings in the > bodies, install stainless shaft sleeves, and install radial lip oil seals. > Pistons and bodies are selected for their proven reliability using the > best > combinations. > > Each order is custom made so that we can consider your intended > use, as well as any additional equipment you may have that would affect > the > mounting of the valve. We also like to know if the ride height is > significantly changed as we can ensure the pistons are working in their > mid-range most of the time. > > Pricing > > Rears are $149.00 each > > Usual core charge deposits of $30.00 apply. > > Please let me know if you have any questions. We are always open > to > suggestions. > > Thanks again. > Peter Caldwell From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 16:31:37 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 18:31:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks In-Reply-To: References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> Message-ID: <8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> uncle jack had them....he seemed ok with them. Tony might be able to add more insight. while not strictly legal, i know, we ended up with RATCOs Tube shock conversion and are very happy with it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Charly Mitchel To: Barry Munson ; fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks I had looked at them once and it seemed they had a tube or something that was remotely controlled. I think I decided to not get them because it was going to cost close to $200 each by the time I got them in my hand. Maybe I should look at them again. Who's first you or me? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 From gasket.works at gte.net Thu Mar 8 07:58:17 2012 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 06:58:17 -0800 Subject: [Fot] 7" RODS? In-Reply-To: <74F4BF80897E44F4B83232C493D656D3@rileyPC> References: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> <74F4BF80897E44F4B83232C493D656D3@rileyPC> Message-ID: <68E14A1F-AF72-4E76-88FC-6897CDCBF75C@gte.net> To give an idea of the magnitude of the long rod piston dwell near tdc.... I have heard that the 8 degrees crank angle btdc and 8 deg Atdc the piston moves perhaps a few thousands. Rumor has it That the piston travels so little -one may think the crankshaft and piston are not really connected @ that sweet spot. On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:39 AM, wrote: > Added dwell at TDC more than offsets the reduced dwell at BDC. > Long rods also work on the crank at a better angle awhile after TDC. > > Smokey's rule was to cram in the longest rod possible. If someone > has a contrary idea on the rod length issue, I would love to get > clued in to it. > > art de armond > > -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 10:48 AM > To: n197tr4 at cs.com ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? > > The stock compression height is 2.0. > There is room for the 7 inch rod, it will be right at the bottom of the oil > ring groove, with a thin ring pack. > The rod/stroke ratio isn't that bad on these engines but generally anything > that reduces loads is a good thing... > Glen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Alexander > To: fot > Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42 am > Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? > > > Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? > > > > This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR > > > > He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. > > > > TIA. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Styduhar > > To: Joe Alexander > > Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am > > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > > > > > > > By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've > > been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco > > pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge > > Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find > any > > specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think > > it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod > > will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but > > Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact > area. > > What do you think? > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > > > John, > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside at southslope.net > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4855 - Release Date: 03/06/12 _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 8 08:02:47 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:02:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks In-Reply-To: <8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> <8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I must be barking up the wrong tree trying to stay within the 1972 SCCA rules. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:32 PM To: charly at mitchelplumbing.com; barry at penybryn.ca; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks uncle jack had them....he seemed ok with them. Tony might be able to add more insight. while not strictly legal, i know, we ended up with RATCOs Tube shock conversion and are very happy with it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Charly Mitchel To: Barry Munson ; fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks I had looked at them once and it seemed they had a tube or something that was remotely controlled. I think I decided to not get them because it was going to cost close to $200 each by the time I got them in my hand. Maybe I should look at them again. Who's first you or me? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 8 08:39:22 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:39:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Triumph Lever shocks In-Reply-To: References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca><8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECB58C4A2B006-2878-4616@webmail-d133.sysops.aol.com> I opened the door on tube shocks and drew attention to myself. Didnt mean to. It is my understanding that the 1963 GCR in SCCA allowed tube shock conversions, but have never researched it myself. Scroll down to see someone who did research it. I shouldnt have suggested that my conversion was 'illegal'. I dont really know. Anyway, as a non-organization of non-rules, we are self policing. So it is left to the sanctioning body and their tech folks to determine was is right. Good time to mention: One of the factors in determining the KASTNER CUP recipient is TRIUMPH preparation to period specifications, during Kas' regime. Note the word recipient as the 'winner' might be avoided in this case. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Joe Alexander wrote:while not strictly legal, i know, we ended up with RATCOs tube shock conversion. THEN I RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING............ If you look in the 63 SCCA GCR, you will see tube shock conversion as an accepted mod for the TR4 in Production class. I checked that out before I bought my car, since my car had a tube shock conversion. It was Bill Dentinger that pointed me in the right direction to find that in the GCR. From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Mar 8 10:24:47 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:24:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP NEWS JERRY BARKER References: <8CECACCDA10FF3E-24B4-5BAB@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5861E4BCC9E748E0B0127C3CF58A10A5@TRIUMPH.local> I just added Jerry to our list at http://www.fot-racing.com/feature/2012mitty/participants.htm I am still waiting for HSR's list of registered Triumph entries, and will edit the list with that information! We need to finalize this list for printing the t-shirts this weekend, so any assistance on getting it right will be appreciated! If you are not on the list and should be, email me or Marty. If you are on the list and should not be, we need to know that too! Cheers Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP NEWS JERRY BARKER > Jerry Called today and announced his plan to be at the MITTY.....with his > SPITFIRE 1500. The same Spitfire he won the SCCA RUNOFFS IN 1980. That's > HISTORY. From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Thu Mar 8 11:02:45 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:02:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <83A00A96E07D46A2982E86311A669C56@Charly> Amici, After having a long conversation with Peter Caldwell peter at nosimport.com of World Wide Auto Parts I'd like to nominate him for the FoT. He's been very dedicated to developing adjustable racing shocks for British cars, also remanufacturing the original lever action shocks for Triumphs and other British cars, is a member of the six pack and all around supports our Triumph industry. BTW, he is also involved in autocross etc. Do I hear a second for his nomination? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 His business information is: Peter Caldwell World Wide Auto Parts of Madison 2517 Seiferth Rd. Madison WI USA 53716-3302 US WATS (800) 362-1025 (608) 223-9400 (608) 223-9403 fax www.worldwideimportautoparts.com www.nosimport.com From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu Mar 8 11:09:57 2012 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:09:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <5dc3de.f5f.135f380c657.Webtop.7@optonline.net> Second! Welcome Peter! On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > Amici, > After having a long conversation with Peter Caldwell > peter at nosimport.com of > World Wide Auto Parts I'd like to nominate him for the FoT. He's been > very > dedicated to developing adjustable racing shocks for British cars, > also > remanufacturing the original lever action shocks for Triumphs and > other > British cars, is a member of the six pack and all around supports our > Triumph > industry. BTW, he is also involved in autocross etc. > Do I hear a second for his nomination? > > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > > His business information is: > > Peter Caldwell > World Wide Auto Parts of Madison > 2517 Seiferth Rd. > Madison WI USA 53716-3302 > US WATS (800) 362-1025 > (608) 223-9400 > (608) 223-9403 fax > > www.worldwideimportautoparts.com > www.nosimport.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 8 11:26:41 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 13:26:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <5dc3de.f5f.135f380c657.Webtop.7@optonline.net> References: <5dc3de.f5f.135f380c657.Webtop.7@optonline.net> Message-ID: <8CECB70243FE089-870-92F8@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> well, he is from Wisconsin...that's good! he is quite resourceful...so he is a resource. he is also a member of British Motor Trade Association....of course I think that is an attribute Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Todd Redmond To: charly Cc: FOT at autox.team.net FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:16 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Second! Welcome Peter! On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > Amici, > After having a long conversation with Peter Caldwell > peter at nosimport.com of > World Wide Auto Parts I'd like to nominate him for the FoT. He's been > very > dedicated to developing adjustable racing shocks for British cars, > also > remanufacturing the original lever action shocks for Triumphs and > other > British cars, is a member of the six pack and all around supports our > Triumph > industry. BTW, he is also involved in autocross etc. > Do I hear a second for his nomination? > > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > > His business information is: > > Peter Caldwell > World Wide Auto Parts of Madison > 2517 Seiferth Rd. > Madison WI USA 53716-3302 > US WATS (800) 362-1025 > (608) 223-9400 > (608) 223-9403 fax > > www.worldwideimportautoparts.com > www.nosimport.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 15:13:59 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:13:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> References: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: My version of the race weekend at TWS: http://youtu.be/w-Va9y2zprc Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red On Mar 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > Here is a link to one of the group 4 races. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvDLoYZpko&feature=g-upl&context=G2465543AUA > AAAAAAAAA > > Enjoy, I surely did. > > BTW... I spoke to the Vete driver after the race about the yellow colored > thing waiving in turns 1-2 and 3. I also laughed with Duncan that my little > hand wave reminded him not to pass under yellow. Great weekend all in all > just missing Red No. 14. > > See yall at the Mitty. > > Greg From jason at multivintage.com Thu Mar 8 18:48:11 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 19:48:11 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Cool footage....Thanks! It is interesting to have seen both videos. For whatever reason, even though Greg finished in front. Duncan's footage is comparatively "faster looking" I wonder if that is a matter of camera type or resolution quality. In any case... way to go guys. Indeed the Texas FoT contingent is flying our flag high. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > My version of the race weekend at TWS: > > http://youtu.be/w-Va9y2zprc > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red > > > On Mar 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > > > Here is a link to one of the group 4 races. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvDLoYZpko&feature=g-upl&context=G2465543AUA > > AAAAAAAAA > > > > Enjoy, I surely did. > > > > BTW... I spoke to the Vete driver after the race about the yellow > colored > > thing waiving in turns 1-2 and 3. I also laughed with Duncan that my > little > > hand wave reminded him not to pass under yellow. Great weekend all in > all > > just missing Red No. 14. > > > > See yall at the Mitty. > > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From mark at bradakis.com Thu Mar 8 23:36:33 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 23:36:33 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <83A00A96E07D46A2982E86311A669C56@Charly> References: <83A00A96E07D46A2982E86311A669C56@Charly> Message-ID: <4F59A4F1.2010200@bradakis.com> Okay, I added Peter the Parts Pimp to the FOT list. Shocking, I know. mjb. From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 07:24:58 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:24:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Message-ID: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. Once we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a pine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He will be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 more with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in replacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy duty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, so he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 9 07:42:18 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:42:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust Message-ID: <20120309144218.664452E0A9@bradakis.com> Team.Net has been around a while. People join, people leave, an ebb and flow of enthusiasts over the years. Some leave a mark that will not be soon forgotten. Steve Laifman passed away, a stalwart on the Tigers list. We had Fred Thomas on Triumphs, Frank on Spridgets. Uncle Jack was a stalwart on the vintage racing scene with his immaculately prepared Triumphs. As I've mentioned before one of my least favorite tasks is removing someone from the lists as they depart. I want to add them back. I want to keep them alive in our hearts, in our minds, in our web browsers. We, as a community of kindred spirits need to show our respect, admiration and appreciation. Team.Net is currently in a bit of disarray as I work on updating, upgrading and unfortunetly upending various services. In the midst of this cloud of digital dust a new project comes to mind - a memorial page. A place to gather stories, pictures, quips and quotes about those who have touched us all. Stay tuned, there will be requests for stuff to fill these soon to be created web pages. mjb. From fasttrs at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 08:29:44 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:29:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust In-Reply-To: <20120309144218.664452E0A9@bradakis.com> References: <20120309144218.664452E0A9@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1331306984.23033.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> An excellent idea Mark! ________________________________ From: Mark J Bradakis To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:42 AM Subject: [Fot] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust Team.Net has been around a while. People join, people leave, an ebb and flow of enthusiasts over the years. Some leave a mark that will not be soon forgotten. Steve Laifman passed away, a stalwart on the Tigers list. We had Fred Thomas on Triumphs, Frank on Spridgets. Uncle Jack was a stalwart on the vintage racing scene with his immaculately prepared Triumphs. As I've mentioned before one of my least favorite tasks is removing someone from the lists as they depart. I want to add them back. I want to keep them alive in our hearts, in our minds, in our web browsers. We, as a community of kindred spirits need to show our respect, admiration and appreciation. Team.Net is currently in a bit of disarray as I work on updating, upgrading and unfortunetly upending various services. In the midst of this cloud of digital dust a new project comes to mind - a memorial page. A place to gather stories, pictures, quips and quotes about those who have touched us all. Stay tuned, there will be requests for stuff to fill these soon to be created web pages. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From malaboge at aol.com Fri Mar 9 09:17:11 2012 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:17:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> Fellow motor mounties... Here's something i did ages ago and have never had a mount go "south" since...and even if it did, it wouldn't matter much other than the fact that you'll prolly get some additional vibrations. Drill two holes down thru the metal plate directly below the existing two holes for the trans mount. Make the holes maybe a quarter inch bigger in diameter than the bolt that holds the trans to the mount. Now get two new longer bolts, you'll have to measure the length but its prolly 'bout 3"-4" long. Drop the new bolts down thru the trans, mount and lower plate. Run a nut up against the bottom of the mount so that the trans is bolted to the mount as usual. Now put a large washer or two on the end of the bolt that is stickin out thru the plate. Use a nylock nut on the end and just tighten it so that the washers touch the plate. Now if the mount goes away (yeah like that ever happens) the worst that will happen is that the bolts will allow the trans to move about an eighth of an inch or so. This will even help save the radiator if that tire wall jumps out directly in front of you! mounted in nor cal.... Nick -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. nce we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a ine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He ill be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 ore with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in eplacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy uty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, o he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander . R. E. 45 1st Street esup, Iowa 50648 19.464.4711 (cell) 197tr4 at cs.com ______________________________________________ From tr4racing at googlemail.com Fri Mar 9 10:05:30 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 18:05:30 +0100 Subject: [Fot] What do I do for profession? In-Reply-To: <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001701ccfe16$d6bd2f40$84378dc0$@com> I'm a professional hand rail shaker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHPTJR6fZo Cheers :-)) From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 13:03:18 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:03:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> yup, we've done that too. would like to have a nice tidy package that does it all well and be done with it. some have hardmounted the tailshaft, but we'd rather not do that, for a number of reasons. bring on a thread here, we may learn something to our benefit. thank's nick....... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: n197tr4 ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:17 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Fellow motor mounties... Here's something i did ages ago and have never had a mount go "south" since...and even if it did, it wouldn't matter much other than the fact that you'll prolly get some additional vibrations. Drill two holes down thru the metal plate directly below the existing two holes for the trans mount. Make the holes maybe a quarter inch bigger in diameter than the bolt that holds the trans to the mount. Now get two new longer bolts, you'll have to measure the length but its prolly 'bout 3"-4" long. Drop the new bolts down thru the trans, mount and lower plate. Run a nut up against the bottom of the mount so that the trans is bolted to the mount as usual. Now put a large washer or two on the end of the bolt that is stickin out thru the plate. Use a nylock nut on the end and just tighten it so that the washers touch the plate. Now if the mount goes away (yeah like that ever happens) the worst that will happen is that the bolts will allow the trans to move about an eighth of an inch or so. This will even help save the radiator if that tire wall jumps out directly in front of you! mounted in nor cal.... Nick -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. Once we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a pine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He will be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 more with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in replacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy duty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, so he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Mar 9 14:04:44 2012 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:04:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS yup, we've done that too. would like to have a nice tidy package that does it all well and be done with it. some have hardmounted the tailshaft, but we'd rather not do that, for a number of reasons. bring on a thread here, we may learn something to our benefit. thank's nick....... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: n197tr4 ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:17 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Fellow motor mounties... Here's something i did ages ago and have never had a mount go "south" since...and even if it did, it wouldn't matter much other than the fact that you'll prolly get some additional vibrations. Drill two holes down thru the metal plate directly below the existing two holes for the trans mount. Make the holes maybe a quarter inch bigger in diameter than the bolt that holds the trans to the mount. Now get two new longer bolts, you'll have to measure the length but its prolly 'bout 3"-4" long. Drop the new bolts down thru the trans, mount and lower plate. Run a nut up against the bottom of the mount so that the trans is bolted to the mount as usual. Now put a large washer or two on the end of the bolt that is stickin out thru the plate. Use a nylock nut on the end and just tighten it so that the washers touch the plate. Now if the mount goes away (yeah like that ever happens) the worst that will happen is that the bolts will allow the trans to move about an eighth of an inch or so. This will even help save the radiator if that tire wall jumps out directly in front of you! mounted in nor cal.... Nick -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. Once we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a pine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He will be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 more with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in replacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy duty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, so he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 14:30:58 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:30:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Glen, Yup, we've done that, too, and it works. Yet, we'd like to take a step further. Greg Solow interjects some thoughtful observations that may be incorporated into the design, eventually.. Keep the comments and interest coming....we have about 8 responses in about 4 hours. There must be an interest. There seems to be an opportunity to relieve some stresses from the gearbox....stresses that have been known to crack bellhousings. Stresses that might not be very good for the gearbox internals, either. Time to think outside the GEARBOX, as it were. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 To: n197tr4 ; malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen From riverside at southslope.net Fri Mar 9 15:19:28 2012 From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:19:28 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com><8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com><8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On my TR3 racer we rigged up some long bolts, big flat washers, and some old valve springs to make a mount that allowed some vertical movement in response to twists. light, simple,easily disassembled when needed. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 3:30 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Glen, Yup, we've done that, too, and it works. Yet, we'd like to take a step further. Greg Solow interjects some thoughtful observations that may be incorporated into the design, eventually.. Keep the comments and interest coming....we have about 8 responses in about 4 hours. There must be an interest. There seems to be an opportunity to relieve some stresses from the gearbox....stresses that have been known to crack bellhousings. Stresses that might not be very good for the gearbox internals, either. Time to think outside the GEARBOX, as it were. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 To: n197tr4 ; malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside at southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4860 - Release Date: 03/09/12 From tr4racing at googlemail.com Fri Mar 9 15:31:02 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 23:31:02 +0100 Subject: [Fot] What do I do for profession? In-Reply-To: <316C7A82-B2D4-4C78-9546-ED20D6B02114@charter.net> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <001701ccfe16$d6bd2f40$84378dc0$@com> <316C7A82-B2D4-4C78-9546-ED20D6B02114@charter.net> Message-ID: <000301ccfe44$50467dd0$f0d37970$@com> Well, if a hardhat and an orange vest is giving some kind of authority, then I should switch over to shake women's boobs. I'm a professional boobs shaker then *lol* -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jerry Barr [mailto:jerrybarr at charter.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Mdrz 2012 22:20 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] What do I do for profession? If he were wearing a hardhat and a blaze orange vest he could do that anywhere in the U.S. without anyone asking why he was shaking hand rails. On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:05 AM, MadMarx wrote: > I'm a professional hand rail shaker: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHPTJR6fZo > > Cheers :-)) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr at charter.net From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Fri Mar 9 15:46:49 2012 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:46:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Formula 1 availability?? Message-ID: <001e01ccfe46$84013820$8c03a860$@rr.com> Perhaps I am the only one that only keeps Speed Channel for the F1 telecasts. If I could find another source I would drop that channel like a hot brick. With all the streaming available I'm surprised it's not available in that format. Unfortunately all the programming I liked like "Legends of Motorsport" and some of the British factory films has gone away in favor of worthless dribble loaded with obnoxious commercials. Back in the day of Speedvision they even had vintage racing along with lots of rally and European/Australian racing. There was also the "Drive-In Theater" which showed campy "car" related movies hosted by Bruce Dern. Okay, that's my opinion. Anyone discover an alternative way to receive F1 and auto related programming? I refuse to pay for HD to get Octane Discovery. Thanks Russ From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 9 16:00:29 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:00:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR4 Pinion Oil Seal Message-ID: <1331334029.897.YahooMailRC@web181316.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> A M I C I After all of these years I just noticed that Moss lists two different oil seals for the TR4 rear end pinion. One for the IRS diff and another for the solid axle. Does anyone know what the difference is? The seal that I use measures 1.500x2.687x.500 - not even sure which one it is. Dennis From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 17:39:07 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:39:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LAST, LAST CALL FOR MITTY SHIRTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am submitting the shirt order Sunday March 11th so you have until tomorrow to get your Kastner Cup or FOT shirt orders in to me. If you have a shirt on order currently you would have received an acknowledgement email from me. If you are not sure feel free to drop me a line and I will check. Kastner Cup drivers names on the shirt. We need to finalize this by tomorrow also. All the names that are currently going on the shirt are listed on the FOT-racing.com web site http://www.fot-racing.com/feature/2012mitty/participants.htm . Thanks Henry. If you are planning on racing and your name is not on the list let me know. If your name is on the list and you know you will not be attending also let me know so we can make the text bigger for those attending. Right now it looks like we will be making around 180 total shirts. The Kastner Cup shirts should be a pretty neat souvenir for this fantastic event. Marty From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 08:36:22 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:36:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil Message-ID: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... thoughts? Bobby Whitehead From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 10:28:42 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:28:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil Message-ID: <1331400522.41752.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 9:36:22 AM Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... thoughts? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From sjanzen at me.com Sat Mar 10 10:52:52 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:52:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: <1331400522.41752.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331400522.41752.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0571021D-3039-4382-82E6-26D137A72B38@me.com> One of the weak points of the straight-six engine is the inadequate castings that some of these bolts thread into, combined with sheet metal timing covers and oil pans that aren't flat and don't stay that way. Having been there, done that, on my engine all the threaded holes into that crappy casting - the one below the front main bearing - are now heli-coiled, bolts have been carefully calibrated to make sure they don't bottom out and ruin the threads before the cover or pan are tight, make sure that the casting is flush with the block and engine plate when installed, etc. I use copious amounts of Permatex ultrablack on the pan and timing covers, combined with the thick gaskets. I'm not sure the thick one is really necessary at the timing cover - more important that the cover is flat and not distorted at the bolt holes - otherwise the assembly cinches tight and you still have daylight in between the bolt holes! Try the timing cover first, but then be potentially ready to pull the whole f-ing mess just to change the oil pan gasket! The whole assembly requires a lot of fiddling, and over-tightening stuff often makes it worse. On Mar 10, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 9:36:22 AM Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... thoughts? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 11:03:41 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:03:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1331402622.84810.YahooMailRC@web180819.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Its one of Joes.. I think my culprit is the thin gasket behind the engine plate matted to the cast iron block.. Bobby ________________________________ From: Yellow04 To: Bobby Whitehead Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 11:51:27 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil What front engine plate is on there now, oem or Joe's? The TR4 engine uses the same thin paper gasket with no goo and seals fine. From gaf3 at charter.net Sat Mar 10 13:11:43 2012 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:11:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F5BB57F.7050202@charter.net> Fastest way to find the source is to clean off the area with brake clean and let it flash off and dry out. Spray the area with a white talc, preferably an aerosol or just use baby powder. Start the engine and immediately look for the start of the wet spot. This is an easy fast way to trace your leaks and cheaper than a black light and leak check fluid. Glenn On 3/10/2012 10:36 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking > of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from > the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process > (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt > to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, > not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I > didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically > removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy > thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not > slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker > gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw > up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. > It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights > realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission > to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... > thoughts? Bobby Whitehead From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 13:41:18 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:41:18 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: <4F5BB57F.7050202@charter.net> References: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4F5BB57F.7050202@charter.net> Message-ID: Bobby, Or if you can obtain an aerosol can of "developer" (used with dye penetrant products to make cracks more visible) I would use that. It's like talc in a liquid carrier. Oil leaks will show up clearly if you've already degreased the thing before spraying on the developer and letting it dry. Duncan (Texas) On Mar 10, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: > Fastest way to find the source is to clean off the area with brake clean and let it flash off and dry out. > Spray the area with a white talc, preferably an aerosol or just use baby powder. > Start the engine and immediately look for the start of the wet spot. > This is an easy fast way to trace your leaks and cheaper than a black light and leak check fluid. > Glenn From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 21:39:26 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:39:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer Message-ID: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To clarify my dilemma there was no issue with the ARP cover from Joe... some dummy at the machine shop took a longer bolt on assembly and torqued it into the threaded ARP allow cover. The longer bolt was torqued till it came into contact with what I believe is the front main seal... There is NO issue with Joe A. or the ARP cover,,, dummies at the machine shop, well, we've all been there I guess... sorry Joe... I owe you a Neil Diamond song on my stealth guitar... wait... I'm suffering sleep deprivation here... I'll play you something original..... see you soon! Bobby From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 11 06:09:20 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer In-Reply-To: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CECD96ECBD7805-D90-7085@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> I really like Neil Diamond.... :-) But what's an ARP ALLOW COVER? Bobby, dont answer that! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Cc: Joe Alexander Sent: Sat, Mar 10, 2012 10:39 pm Subject: Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer To clarify my dilemma there was no issue with the ARP cover from Joe... some dummy at the machine shop took a longer bolt on assembly and torqued it into the threaded ARP allow cover. The longer bolt was torqued till it came into contact with what I believe is the front main seal... There is NO issue with Joe A. or the ARP cover,,, dummies at the machine shop, well, we've all been there I guess... sorry Joe... I owe you a Neil Diamond song on my stealth guitar... wait... I'm suffering sleep deprivation here... I'll play you something original..... see you soon! Bobby From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 11 10:55:58 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:55:58 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer In-Reply-To: <8CECD96ECBD7805-D90-7085@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> References: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CECD96ECBD7805-D90-7085@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4F5CD91E.6060003@bradakis.com> Joe Alexander wrote: > I really like Neil Diamond.... :-) > > But what's an ARP ALLOW COVER? > > Just a simple typo - I'm sure he meant AARP ! mjb. From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 11 14:54:26 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:54:26 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Fot] [CWE] Western FOT, who's going to Willow? Message-ID: <29951710.1331499267183.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> /local/mailman/lynxXXXXt0nbb9: Permission denied From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 11 15:24:05 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:24:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Fot] Progress, of sorts Message-ID: <20120311212405.32D582E05D@bradakis.com> Team.Net is working a tad bit better this weekend. At least now when you use the archive or forum links below you don't get a blank stare. The archives are more important, I'll work on them some more tonight. Right now it is a pleasant spring afternoon and my little truck is in serious need of attention, back outside for a while. mjb. From sgroh1 at comcast.net Mon Mar 12 05:58:27 2012 From: sgroh1 at comcast.net (sgroh1 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Formula 1 availability?? In-Reply-To: <001e01ccfe46$84013820$8c03a860$@rr.com> Message-ID: <733735040.183046.1331553507660.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> You're certainly not alone there, Russ.B I'm to the point where I now toggle to Versus before Speed Channel.B Maybe it's the parent company ESPN that dictates the mindless fodder like Dumbest Stuff on Wheels -B Speed Channel's B now the Dumbest Stuff on T elevision. PLEASE bring back Legends of Motorsport and archival footage programs from BBC, BP, Shell, let's hear from Murray Walker and Stirling and Alan de C adenet - I'll even look foerward to hearing Sam Posey.B Anything but the dumbed-down un-leaded crap that is on day after day after day.B But don't get me started.... I've actually found some fabulous stuff on YouTube.B The sights and sounds of Jimmy ClarkB flying through the forest at the old Nurburgring, Jackie Oliver at the Glen in the rain , or Group C at Spa.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spitfire Racing" To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 5:46:49 PM Subject: [Fot] Formula 1 availability?? Perhaps I am the only one that only keeps Speed Channel for the F1 telecasts. If I could find another source I would drop that channel like a hot brick. With all the streaming available I'm surprised it's not available in that format. Unfortunately all the programming I liked like "Legends of Motorsport" and some of the British factory films has gone away in favor of worthless dribble loaded with obnoxious commercials. Back in the day of Speedvision they even had vintage racing along with lots of rally and European/Australian racing. There was also the "Drive-In Theater" which showed campy "car" related movies hosted by Bruce Dern. Okay, that's my opinion. B Anyone discover an alternative way to receive F1 and auto related programming? I refuse to pay for HD to get Octane Discovery. Thanks B Russ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sgroh1 at comcast.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 07:13:03 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:13:03 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I will be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not work. Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. Thanks, Marty From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Mon Mar 12 08:09:12 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:09:12 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Battery References: Message-ID: Hi Marty, Jegs, Summitt, and others sell battery boxes . I think some guys use boxes from marine/boat suppliers. Mine's a metal box bolted to the floor behind the RR wheel. With a bolt on lid. I'm thinking about making one out of aluminum and TIG welding it together. I bought a Lincoln TIG welder a while ago. And took an advanced welding class to learn how to use it! Let me know how you make out. Bill PS, I got the package. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "marty sukey" To: "FOT" Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:13 AM Subject: [Fot] Battery > Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I > will > be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done > anything > creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not > work. > Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. > > Thanks, > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From brad.kahler at 141.com Mon Mar 12 08:10:01 2012 From: brad.kahler at 141.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:10:01 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Stahl header Message-ID: Amici, Typically when I install a new engine in Susan's spitfire the Stahl header is setting in place inside the frame rails and I slide the engine and transmission into place while manipulating the header to allow for clearance. This time around I would like to have the header already installed on the engine and slide the engine with header and transmission into place as a unit. Can anyone confirm (or deny) that this approach will work with a Stahl header? Thanks, Brad From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 08:38:54 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:38:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <607F9766-93C8-4D04-B67F-F88707DBBCD4@yahoo.com> Braille makes all kinds of lightweight batteries. I dropped 22 pounds in my car by installing a 2015. I know of several SCCA racers that use them with no alternator. I will used an outside starter battery from the grid to save reserve power in case I spin and kill the engine, BTDT. They are also AGM so can be mounted in any position and with some race rules don't have to be in a non conductive box just have the terminals well protected. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2012, at 8:13 AM, marty sukey wrote: > Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I will > be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything > creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not work. > Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. > > Thanks, > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From fpspitfire at comcast.net Mon Mar 12 08:52:15 2012 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (Aaron Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Battery In-Reply-To: <607F9766-93C8-4D04-B67F-F88707DBBCD4@yahoo.com> References: <607F9766-93C8-4D04-B67F-F88707DBBCD4@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ECB1AA-6DCD-4643-9DE1-561E7425E88E@comcast.net> Braille here as well. With a jumper batter for starting in the paddock and grid. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:38, Mike Munson wrote: > Braille makes all kinds of lightweight batteries. I dropped 22 pounds in my > car by installing a 2015. I know of several SCCA racers that use them with no > alternator. I will used an outside starter battery from the grid to save > reserve power in case I spin and kill the engine, BTDT. They are also AGM so > can be mounted in any position and with some race rules don't have to be in a > non conductive box just have the terminals well protected. > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 8:13 AM, marty sukey wrote: > >> Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I > will >> be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything >> creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not > work. >> Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fpspitfire at comcast.net From VANDECARR at aol.com Mon Mar 12 10:40:27 2012 From: VANDECARR at aol.com (VANDECARR at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: <27132.151be8ef.3c8f80fa@aol.com> I'm using an odyssey battery - I think it's the PC 625. I'm now using it on my formula car which has a total loss system and EFI. I have one for the starter,fuel pump and fan and the other is for the ECU and electronics. I used this same battery on my TR6 which has a 400hp V8 - would start it with no problem. It weighs about 13 lbs. and can be mounted on any orientation. Their chargers and make specifically for their batteries and work great. Available at Summit and other places and not too expensive. Dean VanDeCarr From jaboruch at netzero.net Tue Mar 13 16:01:10 2012 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:01:10 GMT Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: <20120313.180110.22947.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> I am also using an Odyssey PC 625MT. It is small and light weight. The MT stands for metal jacket. I am using an alternator and it always have plenty of power. Once my alternator failed sometime during a race weekend and I finished the race fine, it just would not start at post race impound. It is mounted laying down on the passenger side of the boot near the front corner. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: marty sukey To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Battery Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:13:03 -0400 Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I will be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not work. Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4f5fc3f5ee16e26f337ast04duc From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Mar 13 16:07:13 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:07:13 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: I was not that lucky with a hawker odyssey. Just lasted a year and didn't survive winter. Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 13 18:44:19 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Garage Sale Message-ID: <1331685859.80571.YahooMailRC@web181315.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> AMICI - I'm having a Garage Sale. One brand new (still boxed and cellophaned) ARP head stud kit for the TR3/4 tractor motor - $100 and for you Miata & Mini owners: - a very nice used set of four 15x7" alloy wheels ( Black five spoke) with Falken Azenis 205/50 R15 tires - $300 Thanks - see you all soon in Atlanta Dennis From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 15 06:47:49 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around Message-ID: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Mar 15 07:08:44 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:08:44 +0100 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005b01cd02ac$c33c6cc0$49b54640$@com> Hi Bobby, MP4 is the most wanted format for youtube. Most of my videos are in MP4 and youtube does eat them without quality loss. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 13:48 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] fiddle farting around after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Mar 15 07:21:02 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:21:02 +0100 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005c01cd02ae$7a8c42f0$6fa4c8d0$@com> Great video! These GT6 cars are damned fast. The TR4s on the track hadn't an easy life with you. Did you get the blue TR4? Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 13:48 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] fiddle farting around after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From TR3driver at ca.rr.com Thu Mar 15 08:57:42 2012 From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:57:42 -0700 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <021c01cd02bb$f95f6190$0301a8c0@randall> "MP4" is kind of like "internal combustion" ... it's just a broad category that leaves a whole lot of open ground as to what is actually under the hood. FWIW, here is some free software that will convert almost anything to almost anything. The trick is learning which options (what's "under the hood") you need on the output. http://ffmpeg.org/ Thanks for the links, Bobby, but this one http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 didn't work for me. YouTube claims it is a "previously uploaded video", but no link to the supposed duplicate either. -- Randall From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Mar 15 11:32:21 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:32:21 +0100 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331832256.82720.YahooMailRC@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <005b01cd02ac$c33c6cc0$49b54640$@com> <1331832256.82720.YahooMailRC@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b101cd02d1$955e2d50$c01a87f0$@com> Youtube list (sorry for German): * WebM-Dateien: Vp8-Video-Codec und Vorbis-Audio-Codec * MPEG4-, 3GPP- und MOV-Dateien: in der Regel H.264- und MPEG4-Video-Codecs sowie AAC-Audio-Codec * AVI: Ausgabeformat vieler Kameras; Video-Codec in der Regel MJPEG, Audio-Codec PCM * MPEGPS: unterst|tzt normalerweise MPEG2-Video-Codec und MP2 bei Audio * WMV * FLV: Adobe-FLV1-Video-Codec, MP3-Audio Von: Bobby Whitehead [mailto:igofaster at att.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 18:24 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: AW: [Fot] fiddle farting around I tried three times and it was like in 550 minute download... MP4 isn't listed as acceptable on what I saw... one day... I'll get up to 'speed' on your quality videos you share,,, thanks for the heads up... Bobby _____ From: MadMarx To: Bobby Whitehead ; FoT Triumph Sent: Thu, March 15, 2012 8:08:44 AM Subject: AW: [Fot] fiddle farting around Hi Bobby, MP4 is the most wanted format for youtube. Most of my videos are in MP4 and youtube does eat them without quality loss. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 13:48 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] fiddle farting around after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 15 15:17:21 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] GT6 Youtube Message-ID: <1331846241.93037.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> here's my other Youtube.... still learning.... Bobby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhLcMnL8uG8&feature=channel From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Fri Mar 16 03:53:46 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:53:46 +1000 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 Message-ID: has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry From tlizzard at msn.com Fri Mar 16 05:27:09 2012 From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:27:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've seen Miata seats in Spitfires, so they should work in a TR series I would think. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- From: Enquiries Road & Track To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard at msn.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Fri Mar 16 05:39:16 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:39:16 -0400 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 References: Message-ID: <19E8E2DF79894875AC5219E6B3920655@owner8914bbf7f> Didn't Uncle Jack do something with Miata seats? Tony, any insight? Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Enquiries Road & Track" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 > has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 > (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they > are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. > thanks, Terry > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM Fri Mar 16 07:11:33 2012 From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:11:33 +0000 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> The NB Miata seats years '99-'05 are very comfortable and relatively inexpensive. Generally you can get a pair for $200 or so and are readily available locally on Craigslist or local Miata Club. John This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:54 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley at centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Fri Mar 16 07:30:04 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> Message-ID: <1331904604.26231.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Terry: Uncle Jack did design and build brackets which mount Miata seats into a TR. They are currently being sold by Joe Alexander / ARE. I ordered some a couple of weeks ago and they are very nice units. The nice thing about Miata seats is that you can get them with speakers in the headrests which make listening to a stereo much more enjoyable/possible. -Ed- --- On Fri, 3/16/12, John Wiley wrote: From: John Wiley Subject: Re: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 To: "Enquiries Road & Track" , "fot at autox.team.net" Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 8:11 AM The NB Miata seats years '99-'05 are very comfortable and relatively inexpensive. Generally you can get a pair for $200 or so and are readily available locally on Craigslist or local Miata Club. John This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:54 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley at centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 08:10:50 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:10:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 :Now TR7/8? In-Reply-To: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> References: , <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> Message-ID: As a side subject. Anybody found seats that would fit in a TR7/8? I tried TR6 seats and the base was too high, did not leave enough clearance between legs and steering wheel so I am assuming Miata seats would have the same issue. Marty From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 16 08:28:13 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 MIATA SEAT CONVERSION KIT BY A.R.E. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED198277A7259-1888-DE4@webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com> When Uncle Jack was making up the brackets for his TR6, I suggested that there was a market for these as a kit. Sean Alexander and Jack worked on the design together. Sean worked on the design for manufacturing in a production mode. They are laser blanked, formed and powder coated. A hardware kit comes with it and it is shipped in a custom box. Tony turned the project over to Sean after Jack died. Sean has made improvements to the kit with the help of the TR6 guys. It fits several models of Triumphs. Paul Rego in the east coast is preparing to fit Miata Seats in a TR8. It has become a very popular conversion. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Enquiries Road & Track To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 4:55 am Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 16 09:11:05 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED19E24E543B5-1888-1533@webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com> We recently sent a conversion kit to the editor of SPITFIRES AND GT6 for an installation in his Spitfire. We know we have sold them to Spitfire owners in the past for the Miata seats, and never heard back. We have to assume all went well. The installation may have required drilling a hole or two in the floor, but not likely a big deal. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Terry Stetler To: fot ; Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 6:31 am Subject: Re: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 I've seen Miata seats in Spitfires, so they should work in a TR series I would think. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- From: Enquiries Road & Track To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard at msn.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 16 09:26:12 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> References: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> Message-ID: <8CED1A040D91559-1888-17DE@webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com> The NA seats (earlier years) work very well, too. Many conversions have been done with these. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Wiley To: Enquiries Road & Track ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 8:15 am Subject: Re: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 The NB Miata seats years '99-'05 are very comfortable and relatively inexpensive. Generally you can get a pair for $200 or so and are readily available locally on Craigslist or local Miata Club. John This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:54 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley at centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Fri Mar 16 16:44:37 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:37 +1000 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 Message-ID: many thanks for all the replies. I should be able to find these locally. Terry From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat Mar 17 05:56:43 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:56:43 +1000 Subject: [Fot] alternative rocker arms for TR6 Message-ID: has anyone found an alternative, higher ratio rocker arm that can be adapted into a 6 cyl??. I know about the various brands of roller rocker, but some of our historic race classes here prevents their use. i have found some old volvo ones which are close, but not close enough to avoid massive re-engineering. any alternatives??? thanks Terry (TR5) From sjanzen at me.com Sat Mar 17 07:11:52 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:11:52 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Looking for Bill Davis Message-ID: <9475B336-EE15-4F7A-A84C-F125733701BC@me.com> I'd like to track down Bill Davis. He owned/raced my GT6 for a number of years starting in 1973 through 1977(?). I believe he lives in North Carolina. I spoke with him 4-5 years ago, but lost his number in a computer crash ( and we think British cars are unreliable!). Anybody have an idea of his whereabouts? I'm going to VIR for the Wild Hare in April and would really like to re-unite him with the car if he's interested. Thanks! Scott 215-817-9315 From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sat Mar 17 13:36:33 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Calendar appologies Message-ID: <4460B5D7-83FB-4CAB-BBC3-AFC265B2801D@aol.com> Amici After much consideration I am going to postpone doing the calendar till September or October. This way it can be a Christmas present. I am looking at a price between $15-$20 each. Only other pictures I am looking for is a starting grid pic of this years along with winner and his car. I have to ask this because I am not going to make it there. I have to postpone because of moving, getting a house, moving my business, and family. Please forgive me. On another note, I still gave badges and flags. Thank you From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 17 16:55:20 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Youtube walkaround GT-6+ / Texas FoT crew Message-ID: <1332024920.78077.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> A crude video of a walk around of the GT-6+ .... Ready for the Mitty! Found my oil leak, fixed 99% of the leak. The after marker alloy front sealing block was not quite flush with the front of the engine block. It was protruding just enough to feel the obtrusion by touch. I loosened to two attachment bolts from the bottom of the oil pin and with a mallet tapped the front sealing block flush with the engine. Some hi-temp gasket sealer, new gaskets, and all buttoned up and ready for the Mitty. This video is fresh 03-07-12. There are a couple of Texas F.O.T guys that have a track day scheduled (thanks Bill Collins!) at the Cresson Texas MSR in April before the Mitty.... Bill and Joe Hovey, and Bob Blake are all working on new builds and re-builds in prep for the Mitty! God willing.... with what I know in our Texas F.o.T group, we have 1. Robert (Bob) 'Fireball' Kramer TR4 of 2. Is Andrew Kramer coming with his dad Bob? TR4 3. Gregg Blake TR3 4. Bob Blake (2nd father and son group) TR4 5. Bill 'Dipstick' (don't ask) Collins SPITFIRE 6. Joe Hovey SPITFIRE 7. Bobby (Pawn Star of CVAR) Whitehead GT-6+ http://youtu.be/WWfJilIauKo From ac at camoletti.ch Sat Mar 17 17:02:39 2012 From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:02:39 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000f01cd0492$0e25d870$2a718950$@camoletti.ch> Amici, it looks like we will have a rear mount of decent quality. Would love to purchase one ! In particular if it allows torsional movements of the box, so that the chassis will be able to flex as it likes and save the bellhousing. Keep us posted and put one aside for me whenever you make the first prod run! Cheers and keep the great momentum! Alex (Geneva, Switzerland) -----Message d'origine----- De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Joe Alexander Envoyi : vendredi 9 mars 2012 22:31 @ : fot at autox.team.net Objet : [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Glen, Yup, we've done that, too, and it works. Yet, we'd like to take a step further. Greg Solow interjects some thoughtful observations that may be incorporated into the design, eventually.. Keep the comments and interest coming....we have about 8 responses in about 4 hours. There must be an interest. There seems to be an opportunity to relieve some stresses from the gearbox....stresses that have been known to crack bellhousings. Stresses that might not be very good for the gearbox internals, either. Time to think outside the GEARBOX, as it were. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 To: n197tr4 ; malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch From jhhasty at gdhs.com Sun Mar 18 11:23:42 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:23:42 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Youtube walkaround GT-6+ / Texas FoT crew In-Reply-To: <1332024920.78077.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1332024920.78077.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0F27C1F1-2914-4ED8-999C-F36264B736DF@gdhs.com> Be sure and tell Bob K to look me up in the paddock & take a look at his old TR3A Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > A crude video of a walk around of the GT-6+ .... Ready for the Mitty! Found my > oil leak, fixed 99% of the leak. The after marker alloy front sealing block was > not quite flush with the front of the engine block. It was protruding just > enough to feel the obtrusion by touch. I loosened to two attachment bolts from > the bottom of the oil pin and with a mallet tapped the front sealing block flush > with the engine. Some hi-temp gasket sealer, new gaskets, and all buttoned up > and ready for the Mitty. This video is fresh 03-07-12. > There are a couple of Texas F.O.T guys that have a track day scheduled (thanks > Bill Collins!) at the Cresson Texas MSR in April before the Mitty.... Bill and > Joe Hovey, and Bob Blake are all working on new builds and re-builds in prep for > the Mitty! God willing.... with what I know in our Texas F.o.T group, we have > > 1. Robert (Bob) 'Fireball' Kramer TR4 of > 2. Is Andrew Kramer coming with his dad Bob? TR4 > 3. Gregg Blake TR3 > 4. Bob Blake (2nd father and son group) TR4 > 5. Bill 'Dipstick' (don't ask) Collins SPITFIRE > 6. Joe Hovey SPITFIRE > 7. Bobby (Pawn Star of CVAR) Whitehead GT-6+ > > http://youtu.be/WWfJilIauKo > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From jhassall at blacksburg.net Sun Mar 18 16:06:13 2012 From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:06:13 -0400 Subject: [Fot] max. TIR for TR4 aluminum flywheel? Message-ID: <4F665C55.6040308@blacksburg.net> Amici, What is the maximum flywheel total indicator runout you'd feel comfortable with? I was finally able to remount the Fidanza f/w on my TR4 engine this afternoon, only to find that it has 0.005 TIR. I have no record on my build log of the previous runout, so I need advice. Given that it's for "fast road" / autox, red line 6K (nitrided crank, lightened and balanced rotating bits, PP and f/w balanced as an assembly), do you think 0.005 is too much? Since all mating surfaces were clean and smooth, of course I was shooting for 0.000, so needless to say I was disappointed. TIA jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go From jhassall at blacksburg.net Sun Mar 18 16:10:47 2012 From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:10:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Al. f/w runout Message-ID: <4F665D67.1040700@blacksburg.net> One more data point: the pressure plate is the improved TR4A design (much lighter than the -4 design) j -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Mar 19 15:29:37 2012 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:29:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info Message-ID: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> I'm trying to access the information on the various types of TR3 &TR4 cylinder heads that I believe Terry Ann Wakeman put together. The old link that I have does not work, it just routes me to "Go Daddy.com". Could someone send me the correct link if that info is still available? Thanks. Tim Murphy From tjwakeman at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 16:05:45 2012 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:05:45 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info In-Reply-To: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> References: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> Message-ID: <4F67ADB9.4040609@gmail.com> On 3/19/12 2:29 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > I'm trying to access the information on the various types of TR3&TR4 > cylinder heads that I believe Terry Ann Wakeman put together. The old link > that I have does not work, it just routes me to "Go Daddy.com". There is no correct link for the site at the moment. I get started trying to link the site properly into the domain name and never got it working properly. Sent a help message to GoDaddy tech. Got a canned reply back that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Got going on other things & never got around to revisiting it. I didn't think anyone would notice. Guess I'm wrong. Here is how to get to the page: http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm I'll try to get the site properly connected one of these days. GoDaddy may be inexpensive hosting for really big web sites but their tech help is the absolute pits and their web site is so focused in selling you more stuff it hardly has any space for actually managing the hosting. They are no help on anything that does not make them more money. Teriann From mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 19 16:51:45 2012 From: mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net (mrcpt1@sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] TR2 Tool Kit Message-ID: <1332197505.15345.YahooMailRC@web181218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hello, I am in need of a complete OE TR2 tool kit (or a TR3 if it's the same thing ?) I would be grateful to hear from anyone out there who might be interested in selling one. Cheers, Mike Ryan . From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Mar 19 17:43:30 2012 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:43:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info In-Reply-To: <4F67ADB9.4040609@gmail.com> References: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> <4F67ADB9.4040609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001cd062a$17205380$4560fa80$@com> Thanks to all those who replied so quickly!! FOT rocks:) That's the info I was looking for, now I just have to use it and figure out which heads I have for spares. Thanks again. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:06 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info On 3/19/12 2:29 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > I'm trying to access the information on the various types of TR3&TR4 > cylinder heads that I believe Terry Ann Wakeman put together. The old link > that I have does not work, it just routes me to "Go Daddy.com". There is no correct link for the site at the moment. I get started trying to link the site properly into the domain name and never got it working properly. Sent a help message to GoDaddy tech. Got a canned reply back that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Got going on other things & never got around to revisiting it. I didn't think anyone would notice. Guess I'm wrong. Here is how to get to the page: http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm I'll try to get the site properly connected one of these days. GoDaddy may be inexpensive hosting for really big web sites but their tech help is the absolute pits and their web site is so focused in selling you more stuff it hardly has any space for actually managing the hosting. They are no help on anything that does not make them more money. Teriann _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph at fastbytes.com From 58tr3a at videotron.ca Mon Mar 19 18:54:19 2012 From: 58tr3a at videotron.ca (Don TR) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR2 Tool Kit References: <1332197505.15345.YahooMailRC@web181218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9B45E8C5337C4D299C27DF8CF21E0185@don> John Warfield is the Prez of TRA and he used to sell the tools. Warfield, John E-mail Address(es): jdwtrxk at verizon.net Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "mrcpt1 at sbcglobal.net" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:51 PM Subject: [Fot] TR2 Tool Kit > Hello, I am in need of a complete OE TR2 tool kit (or a TR3 if it's the > same > thing ?) > > > I would be grateful to hear from anyone out there who might be > interested in > selling one. > > Cheers, Mike Ryan . > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/58tr3a at videotron.ca From kaskas at cox.net Mon Mar 19 19:12:44 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:12:44 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second Message-ID: I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 19 19:15:59 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED44E248F12BF-6C8-22C5@webmail-m132.sysops.aol.com> DONE for Dunn Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Kas Kastner To: fot ; Ed Dunn Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 8:13 pm Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jason at multivintage.com Mon Mar 19 19:30:39 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:30:39 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second In-Reply-To: <8CED44E248F12BF-6C8-22C5@webmail-m132.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED44E248F12BF-6C8-22C5@webmail-m132.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1252817337-1332207040-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1625836284-@b16.c3.bise6.blackberry> Yes, I second These GT6's seem to be multiplying, lately... That's a good thing. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:15:59 To: ; ; Subject: Re: [Fot] Membership, need a second DONE for Dunn Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Kas Kastner To: fot ; Ed Dunn Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 8:13 pm Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com Tue Mar 20 00:11:39 2012 From: edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com (Edward Dunn) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:11:39 -0700 Subject: [Fot] GT6 Intro Message-ID: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0177226A3934@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Esteemed fellow enthusiasts; After watching for 30 years, in 2010 I decided to actually do something about my interest in vintage racing. I bought an old GT6 racer from Steve Smith and proceeded to jump into the ice cold/red hot pool of attempting to race. Pretty much everything that could go wrong did. Fortunately, nothing that couldn't be fixed or solved. We had so much fun/tragedy that VARA invented and awarded me a new trophy for competitor that had the worst year possible and still showed up. Apologies to Kas, but I was very much "beaten by equipment", as well as a jerk Datsun 510 racer who slammed into me my very first time on the track. Fortunately, I've met a number of really terrific folks in VARA who helped me put the car back together, and vastly improve its many shortcomings. (Oops, I still owe you a water pump Mr. Barker) Essentially, we've fundamentally rebuilt most of the car. Simple job, just takes large amounts of time and vast quantities of cash. Good thing is, it prompted me to sell most of my motorcycles which I had been dawdling on doing. I've always been into cars. Someday I'll tell the story how I got my first car at three years old (A 1940 Pontiac). Among the vehicles in our garage, is the 1952 MG TD that I learned to drive in. I have owned a wide variety of cars, bikes, boats, RV's etc., but this is my first Triumph. Except for the '66 TR4A I stole borrowed from my sister's husband for a couple weeks before he found it. Fun wheels for a 17 year old to blast around in... Best we can tell (according to Steve Smith) is that my car was raced in the L.A. area in the 80's-early 90's. Steve found it in a guy's back yard, and finally sold it to me. Steve of course, is a well known GT6 racer with his highly tuned & tweaked red #4 car. Word on the street, is that Steve will join us at Willow Springs in a couple weeks if the stars align. Steve has been quite a help with the beast, and is a really interesting crazy character guy. To further bore you, here's a brief rundown of what we've done to the car since I bought it: ' Changed number to 757 (another story for later) ' Total refinish, inside / outside / under hood ' Repair cracked frame outrigger ' Built exhaust system aft of header (including race muffler) ' Welded up floor holes, reinforced floor ' Welded up numerous rust areas, misc body repairs ' Reworked roll cage some ' Finished interior with aluminum panel ' Installed proper FIA fuel cell ' Relocated fuel pump and lines ' Replaced mirrors with proper race type ' Replaced transmission bearings ' Replaced clutch assembly ' Shortened & balanced driveshaft to fit properly ' Regeared rear axle to 4.10 ' Rebuilt brake cylinders ' Rebuilt clutch cylinders ' Replaced rotoflex's ' Replaced gauges (Autometer race) ' Replaced steering wheel (quick release) ' Rebuilt shifter ' Installed Accusump & new braided oil lines ' Replaced oil cooler ' Replaced oil pump ' Replaced radiator (VW) ' Replaced alternator ' Replaced battery ' Relocated battery to cockpit in sealed box ' Replaced electrical master switch with proper one ' Replaced seat with better Kirkey ' Replaced motor mounts ' Replaced binding throttle linkage ' Rebuilt engine; crank, rings, cam, comp head, etc... Current to do list: ' Replace suspension bushings with poly ' Rebuild/reinforce rear spring ' Complete "octopus" oil system ' Detail engine compartment ' Build spare motor & trans ' Renew brakes (Porterfield R4) ' Refine spares collection Many thanks to folks who have helped so far: X Joe Siam X Steve Smith X Rod Davis X Rod Davis Jr. (body & paint) X Jim Clark, engine builder X A whole bunch of VARA members who helped keep me going when it felt real bad... X Finally, the Master. Without his books as reference and bedtime reading, it would have been a lot tougher. Thanks, Kas. Hopefully, I can contribute as well as take from this group. Ed Dunn Encinitas, CA From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Mar 20 06:23:30 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:23:30 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Ed Dunn message Message-ID: <7626CAFD9E024F5B8D76D602CA7587D7@owner8914bbf7f> Ed, welcome to the club, in more ways than one. After reading your story I think a lot of us can have some empathy. "Ready to race, eh?" Heard that one before! I think a lot of us have been down the same road as you concerning our cars. Your story sounds a lot like mine, except for the 510 idiot (knock on wood!). Replace, rebuild, repair, re-do, re-engineer, re-wire, etc. I think I've kept Richard Good in business the last few years, along with TRF, Ted, and Jegs! The good news is that I can do most of my own work, except body work, and have all the tools to work with, including a lift. Lots of time and money went into my TR6. The thing is, I wouldn't trade the experience for anything! I've had a blast and met a whole bunch of great people. A lot of guys helped or gave advice when I started out. Now, I've had the pleasure of helping out some other guys. I usually carry way too much stuff to the races, but have helped out fellow drivers on occasion. It's all good! Best of luck in your racing. But keep in mind the old saying, "There's no such thing as luck, you make your own" I'd like to say Kas said it, but I think it was some guy named Shelby. The main thing about vintage racing: HAVE FUN! Bill From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 20 10:08:06 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1332259686.44594.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> another GT6? heck yeah.... that's a second or third... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Kas Kastner To: fot ; Ed Dunn Sent: Mon, March 19, 2012 8:12:44 PM Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From rikrock at live.com Tue Mar 20 15:55:55 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:55:55 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Message-ID: Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Tue Mar 20 16:25:19 2012 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:25:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006f01cd06e8$585d20d0$09176270$@rr.com> Have you ever read Don Quixote? This is a big windmill hardly worth the effort. Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Rock Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:56 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Mar 20 16:40:59 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:40:59 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001001cd06ea$87afc610$970f5230$@com> They might suppose the car to be flame thrower with the oil hose connected to the exhaust. I would say that the amount of oil on the road is less with that system and it does indicate very early any engine damage. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Rich Rock Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Mdrz 2012 22:56 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From billdentin at aol.com Tue Mar 20 16:48:50 2012 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> <<<- Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum ystems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't resent an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did ay that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out oday. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and hey create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? ->>> tend to agree with Russ Moore's take on any battle with SCCA. While I sure do not have one, and have no real desire for one, I'd be interested in Jack Woerhle's take if he is still monitoring this FOT List. Bill Dentinger From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 20 18:27:30 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CED51088E335D1-2BE0-24E7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> Jack Woerhle and I had this discussion a very long time ago. His response, in writing, was that anything that kept oil off the track was OK with him at tech. I am still in contact with him from time to time, but he is not on the list any longer that I am aware of. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: billdentin To: rikrock ; fot Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA <<<- Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum ystems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't resent an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did ay that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out oday. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and hey create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? ->>> tend to agree with Russ Moore's take on any battle with SCCA. While I sure do not have one, and have no real desire for one, I'd be interested in Jack Woerhle's take if he is still monitoring this FOT List. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jhassall at blacksburg.net Tue Mar 20 18:38:32 2012 From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:38:32 -0400 Subject: [Fot] max. TIR for TR4 aluminum flywheel? In-Reply-To: <4F665C55.6040308@blacksburg.net> References: <4F665C55.6040308@blacksburg.net> Message-ID: <4F692308.2080809@blacksburg.net> On 3/18/2012 6:06 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > Amici, > > What is the maximum flywheel total indicator runout you'd feel > comfortable with? I was finally able to remount the Fidanza f/w on my > TR4 engine this afternoon, only to find that it has 0.005 TIR. I have > no record on my build log of the previous runout, so I need advice. > Given that it's for "fast road" / autox, red line 6K (nitrided crank, > lightened and balanced rotating bits, PP and f/w balanced as an > assembly), do you think 0.005 is too much? Since all mating surfaces > were clean and smooth, of course I was shooting for 0.000, so needless > to say I was disappointed. As the saying goes, "Cleanliness is next to godliness, unless you're building an engine, then the order is reversed." The TIR problem was simply due to undetectable grunge on either the f/w or the crank. After vigorously wire brushing the interfaces, it went back together perfectly. Since I specified 0.000 TIR in the satellite equipment I used to design, I figured zero was what I should have here. And I got it! Happiness is zero TIR. Now, on to the next opportunity.... -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 20 18:41:56 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED5128D413260-2BE0-26C7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> unlikely any real research was done. but asking about it seems worthwhile. thanks Rich Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Rich Rock To: fot Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 4:56 pm Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From fpspitfire at comcast.net Tue Mar 20 19:42:57 2012 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (Aaron Johnson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:42:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is probably about as good of a battle to pick as asking for slicks and fender flares in a vintage series. None of us run an exhaust vacuum system, none of us need to run them and none of the people who spend thousands on dyno time have found a power benefit. Aaron Johnson #87 HP spitfire 1500 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2012, at 16:55, Rich Rock wrote: > Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum > systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't > present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did > say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. > > The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out > today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: > > "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and > they create a safety issue if they malfunction". > > Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? > > Rich Rock > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fpspitfire at comcast.net From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 06:21:24 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:21:24 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: <8CED51088E335D1-2BE0-24E7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> <8CED51088E335D1-2BE0-24E7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I did win a tire selection with Jack recently and it is now in writing of a brouder selection of tires that we may run. It still doesn't accomadate slicks but that wasn't what I was after.I will post the copy if anyone wants it. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Jack Woerhle and I had this discussion a very long time ago. His > response, in > writing, was that anything that kept oil off the track was OK with him at > tech. > > I am still in contact with him from time to time, but he is not on the list > any longer that I am aware of. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: billdentin > To: rikrock ; fot > Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 5:49 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA > > > <<<- Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine > vacuum > ystems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't > resent an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did > ay that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. > The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came > out > oday. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: > "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and > hey create a safety issue if they malfunction". > Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? ->>> > > tend to agree with Russ Moore's take on any battle with SCCA. > While I sure do not have one, and have no real desire for one, > I'd be interested in Jack Woerhle's take if he is still monitoring > this FOT List. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 07:40:54 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:40:54 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: group 3 tires In-Reply-To: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC009F@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC009F@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Deanes, Robert Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:36 AM Subject: FW: group 3 tires To: Robert Deanes ** ** ** ** *From:* Jack Woehrle [mailto:jwoesvra at aol.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 10:56 PM *To:* Deanes, Robert *Cc:* Steve Bonk *Subject:* Re: group 3 tires**** ** ** I have updated the Vintage Production Category to include the Toyo R888 and Yokohama A048.**** ** ** -- rob deanes TR Racer /local/mailman/lynxXXXX0SVjoa: Permission denied [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of VRR Vintage Production Category (VP).pdf] From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 10:18:35 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:18:35 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: group 3 tires In-Reply-To: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC0227@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC0227@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Deanes, Robert Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:14 PM Subject: FW: group 3 tires To: Robert Deanes ** ** ** ** *From:* Jack Woehrle [mailto:jwoesvra at aol.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 10:56 PM *To:* Deanes, Robert *Cc:* Steve Bonk *Subject:* Re: group 3 tires**** ** ** I have updated the Vintage Production Category to include the Toyo R888 and Yokohama A048.**** ** ** -- rob deanes TR Racer /local/mailman/lynxXXXXC0wZmW: Permission denied [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of VRR Vintage Production Category (VP).pdf] From pvucinic at netspace.net.au Wed Mar 21 16:11:18 2012 From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:11:18 +1100 Subject: [Fot] Team TSOA 2nd in Relay Event Message-ID: TEAM Triumph Sports Owners Associating, Victoria Australia had another fantastic race result! http://www.tsoavic.com/ REPORT ON SANDOWN 6 HOUR REGULARITY RELAY 26th February, 2012. This is the third time The Porsche Club of Victoria has run a Regularity Relay at Sandown. This year other clubs were invited to participate, which broadened the interest in the event, and as the results showed it was not dominated by Porsche teams. In fact, out of 23 teams there were 9 non Porsche, with Holden, Jaguar, Triumph, Alfa, and mixed teams making up the grid. Each driver did a fantastic job with VERY FEW laps under the nominated times, which reflected in the final results. There were NO mechanical problems, so the cars ran faultlessly during the event, so each driver had their share of track time. The final results were: First: The Colonel's Men (Porsches) 56.5762 points, Second: TEAM TRIUMPH 56.5116 Third : Autocure Motor Sport (Holdens) 54.0254 What a fantastic result for us, and this, added to a previous win at Winton a couple of years ago, and good placings at Phillip Island, keeps TSOA up with the best. We don't need $300,000 cars to be competitive! Sandown History: History - Built in the early 60's, Sandown's Motor Circuit has long stood as the premium car racing circuit in Melbourne. Names such as Fangio, Moss, Brabham, Brock, Skaife and Richards all having competing round the fast and famous circuit. http://www.sandown.net.au/ Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums From edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com Wed Mar 21 16:48:54 2012 From: edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com (Edward Dunn) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:48:54 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0177226A3993@TITAN.dwholdings.local> In my wife's Formula Vee, we use an Odyssey PC680. Paid $125 at batterymart.com Ed Edward Dunn Quality Fuel Trailer & Tank, Inc. 1611 S. Rancho Santa Fe Road, Suite C San Marcos, CA 92078 800-509-1904 x.12 [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD077A.1EC4A220] Made In America [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] From gasket.works at verizon.net Wed Mar 21 23:09:28 2012 From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:09:28 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fw: FoT Message-ID: <9EDC0E7F3DCD4D5A8CED041B90E7ACD5@hp2572664f9a91> Mordy M.N.Dunst Gasket Works USA, LLC www.Headgasket.com Dunroth Farms, Inc Capt. Black's Beef Jerky Capt. Black's Hot Sauce 626.358.1616 ph1 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax Triple R Munitions, Inc. Class 6 Certified F.F.L. 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax GMT - 8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Dunn To: gasket.works at gte.net Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: FoT To whom may be concerned: I am hereby submitting my application for membership to the Friends of Triumph. I think it is a mere possibility that with a few years of counsel and servitude I could be an asset to the organization. Please allow me to expound on why it might not be a completely grievous decision to induct me into the fold. 1. I am the Automobilist. I obtained my first car at age three. I believe this qualifies me as the person who has owned a car for a greater percentage of his life than anyone with a quarter mile or so. The beast that started it all: a 1940 Pontiac coupe, left to me by my dear late grandmother. I kept the Pontiac until I turned 16, then did a "schlock" restoration on it, of extremely poor quality. Shortly afterward, I sold the car to a rube, and bought a 1968 Mustang GTCS. By the time I had turned 21, I had owned 22 cars. List upon request. 2. I learned to drive in a 1952 MG TD. In 1990, I somehow convinced my aged father to let me "borrow" the MG and "fix it up". Three years later, my wife and I had struggled through a complete restoration. Regrettably (for my father) the car turned out perfect, and was never returned to him. Pity. Most recently, the beautiful TD was our beautiful daughter's wedding getaway car. 3. I write an extremely good automotive blog, with over three followers. Impactful, insightful, and self-absorbed. 4. I am a member of the well known Secret Car Club. As you undoubtedly are aware, this is by invitation only. It is non-marque-denominational, and exceedingly posh. We conduct many extremely exciting runs & events, often involving lemon or German chocolate cake. 5. As a retired airline captain, (although still really quite young) I have commanded large, very large conveyances with many people eating peanuts and drinking soda in the cabin. I was actually quite good at this. 6. I have almost owned a Triumph in the past. In high school, I stole, borrowed my brother in law's TR4A, and drove it until he found out about it a couple weeks later. 7. I do own a Triumph currently. A beautiful blue GT6 Mk3. 1971 vintage. Purchased from one Steve Smith, of the Las Vegas, Nevada, Smiths. Apparently, Mr. Smith fancies himself as a sort of Triumph hobbyist, and holds certain acclaim in vintage racing circles. Seemed like a decent fellow to me. I have a scheme to have the GT6 properly prepared, and then somehow achieve vintage racing domination with it. Or, possibly complete a race weekend without it puking its guts out. 8. I have met many Triumph owners of high (and low) acclaim: Kas Kastner, Jerry Barker, Joe Alexander, John Nikas, Joe Siam, Chuck Gee, etc. Please take my application under serious consideration. If a small cash donation ($5-10 or so) is needed to grease the skids of membership, so be it. I also may know some people who can get things "done", if that helps. Respectfully submitted, Edward E. Dunn Encinitas, CA From lunkercars at earthlink.net Thu Mar 22 10:02:47 2012 From: lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg ''Lunker'' Hilyer) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:02:47 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fw: FoT/ Ed Dunn In-Reply-To: <9EDC0E7F3DCD4D5A8CED041B90E7ACD5@hp2572664f9a91> References: <9EDC0E7F3DCD4D5A8CED041B90E7ACD5@hp2572664f9a91> Message-ID: <82575463-0FE4-4227-9A60-386200CC2412@earthlink.net> > 6. I have almost owned a Triumph in the past. In high school, > I stole, > borrowed my brother in law's TR4A, and drove it until he found out > about it a > couple weeks later. Ed, "Drive it like you stole it" is a prerequisite for making a Triumph go fast. Sounds like you've got that part down. Welcome! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From mike.mehl at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 21:03:24 2012 From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Spax adjustable shocks for sale - TR4 Message-ID: <1332471804.30439.YahooMailNeo@web46102.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have a like new pair of TR4 front shocks for sale. They were just checked on a Shock Dyno. The Dyno data will be supplied with the shocks. $130 for the pair plus shipping. Mike Mehl let me know. From tarch at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 23 08:59:37 2012 From: tarch at bellsouth.net (Richard Taylor) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:59:37 -0400 Subject: [Fot] The Mitty Message-ID: <007801cd0905$915a40b0$b40ec210$@net> OK fellow FOTers, the cherry pickin's over. Ole 196 (TR-4A) rides again! I've come out from under my rock, ordered some secret go-fast equipment (like a new harness, Hans device and bake pads) and have registered for the Mitty. I truly look forward to reinforcing many old friendships and making a bunch of new ones. You guys are an exceptional gaggle. Let the games begin! It's going to be a lot of fun! Richard Richard L. Taylor, Jr., FAIA TAYLOR ARCHITECTURE 112 Krog St. Suite 196 Atlanta, Georgia, 30307 tel: (404) 223-1313 fax: (404) 223-1312 mobile: (404) 660-4920 www.taylor-architecture.com From atr6racer at hotmail.com Fri Mar 23 14:42:37 2012 From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:42:37 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 15x7 TR6 Wheels Message-ID: I ordered a set of new Rota wheels (Panasport imitations) for my TR6 and received the wrong color. Instead of having a polished rim I got a complete flat black wheel. And instead of sending them back (triple shipping costs) I kept them and ordered the correct color and trim wheel. So I'm offering a set of 15x7 4x114.3MM (4 1/2) 4mm postive offset flat black Rota wheels. I'll bring them to the Mitty if anyone is interested. Brand new never mounted still in boxes. $500.00 Sam Halkias [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Fri Mar 23 15:31:38 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:31:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Any interest, spit parts Message-ID: Amici, Time to thin the parts out. I have an OD trans from a 72 spit. Been sitting for about 20 years. It goes spin. No other guarantees. $200 Non-OD trans, single rail and other type. $100 each Full length floor pans for Spit or GT6. New purchased about 15 years ago. Some slight surface rust. Dusty shipping box included. $200 for the pair 74 spit frame. Painted black with no rust or problems. $150 74 spit doors. No rust fully loaded with glass and such. Primer painted over blue color. $75 for both. 74 trunk lid. Some rust around rear edge. $50 74 bonnet. One rust hole where sub frame mounts. Dents along top fender ridge. $100 74 body tub. Needs floorboards, and some rust repair. FREE I have diffs (stock, nothing special), engines, suspension pieces, leaf springs, and other tidly bits. All prices are negotiable. Items are in Southern NJ. I can ship some of the parts but would prefer pick up. If you need some other parts or want pictures email me off list. Thanks From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Fri Mar 23 18:01:19 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:01:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 15x7 TR6 Wheels References: Message-ID: <98840DE343B047AEA7B9CBC28A6057F0@owner8914bbf7f> Sam, other than the wrong color, how do you like the ROTA's? I bought a set last year and they seem fine, straight and true. Good looking wheel. And a decent price. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Halkias" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 4:42 PM Subject: [Fot] 15x7 TR6 Wheels >I ordered a set of new Rota wheels (Panasport imitations) for my TR6 and > received the wrong color. Instead of having a polished rim I got a > complete > flat black wheel. And instead of sending them back (triple shipping costs) > I > kept them and ordered the correct color and trim wheel. So I'm offering a > set > of 15x7 4x114.3MM (4 1/2) 4mm postive offset flat black Rota wheels. > I'll > bring them to the Mitty if anyone is interested. Brand new never mounted > still > in boxes. $500.00 > > Sam Halkias > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From tjwakeman at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 16:13:57 2012 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:13:57 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR3 stuff now on ebay Message-ID: <4F6E4725.2060503@gmail.com> Sorry for bombing the whole list but someone asked to let them know when I listed the TR3 steering assembly on ebay and I can not find their email to let them know it is now listed. Here is what I put up: - TR3A lower steering assembly including a split shaft steering box rebuilt by The Roadster Factory less than 20,000 miles ago with all new guts, including a new peg and worm gear. - Factory TR3 jack -factory TR3 lug nut wrench - New old stock TR3 optional ash tray - A pair of unlabeled Hooter style horns I took off the TR3. I don't know if they are original or aftermarket but they are tested and work. Teriann From mark at bradakis.com Sat Mar 24 18:25:33 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:25:33 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Thanks, Bobby! Message-ID: <4F6E65FD.4080108@bradakis.com> Nice pics you posted on Facebook from Group 44. mjb. From edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com Sun Mar 25 13:55:11 2012 From: edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com (Edward Dunn) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:55:11 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Supplemental oil lines Message-ID: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0177226A39C5@TITAN.dwholdings.local> I hope this message comes across well, the FoT formatting doesn't seem to carry over from MS Word well. Forgive me of it is indecipherable and/or incomprehensible... I'm finally assembling a Kastner Octopus system for my GT6. I'm assembling an octopus using the aluminum manifold Steve Smith gave me. I'm plumbing it with Parker Push-Lok hose & fittings, which are rated to 350 psi and the hose bends easier than braided steel. I'll back the ends up with hose clamps too. Opinions of the correctness of this? A lot of oil plumbing under the hood: * -10 oil cooler lines * remote oil filter mounted on firewall * oil pressure gauge line * oil temp gauge line * -10 Accusump feed line & anti-backflow valve * -10 main oil supply line Fittings, adapters, tee's, etc... Big VARA race weekend coming right up at Willow Springs. Kas featured all Triumph race, enduro, and I hope a good amount of madcap antics & wacky hijinx. Ed Dunn From igofaster at att.net Sun Mar 25 20:59:32 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] camping at the Mitty Message-ID: <1332730772.46208.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> having been to Road Atlanta as a spectator but never as a driver... my group from Texas is a 'camp at the track' unit... so ... I looked at the generic map of Road Atlanta and there a 2-3 infield camping areas. Looks to be one camping area outside on the west side of the track. So... with my camping done with me sleeping inside my car hauler, what can I expect. Will I drop off my car at a covered space and then drag my trailer to the camp site or what.... thanks for the help.. Bobby Whitehead From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Mon Mar 26 06:13:36 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:13:36 -0400 Subject: [Fot] camping at the Mitty References: <1332730772.46208.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bobby, and the rest of you guys wondering about this... You can camp where ever you want, but most racers stay in the paddock. For those of you tent camping, be aware we are in the Pro Paddock, and that area is 100% paved. Also, as we are on asphalt, no tent stakes can be driven into the ground, so come prepared to have your canopies anchored some other way! And Bobby, I am not sure what arrangements you may have made about a "covered space", but everyone is responsible for providing their own weather protection for their race car! Hopefully, our canopies will only be needed to block the sun... Cheers Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: [Fot] camping at the Mitty > having been to Road Atlanta as a spectator but never as a driver... my > group > from Texas is a 'camp at the track' unit... so ... I looked at the generic > map > of Road Atlanta and there a 2-3 infield camping areas. Looks to be one > camping > area outside on the west side of the track. > So... with my camping done with me sleeping inside my car hauler, what can > I > expect. Will I drop off my car at a covered space and then drag my trailer > to > the camp site or what.... From walt at hot-tr6.com Mon Mar 26 08:46:09 2012 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:46:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Gears and water pumps Message-ID: <004d01cd0b5f$2fb19be0$8f14d3a0$@hot-tr6.com> Two topics. #1. Does anyone at FOT know of a source of new, good quality, 4:11 to 1 ring and pinion gears for TR4,6? If so do you have an idea of how much they sell for? #2. Is it cost effective to have a water pump from a TR6 or other Triumphs rebuilt or should I just keep buying new ones? I have a handful of old pumps and I don't know why I keep them. Thank You, Walt Hollowell Abq., NM From jhd11 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 27 07:40:26 2012 From: jhd11 at hotmail.com (Joe Henry) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:40:26 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Message-ID: Good Morning, I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a Feature race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race scheduled for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? Thanks. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 27 07:56:40 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEDA38917804BA-970-21BA@webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com> Henry, maybe you could post the SCHEDULE, as you know it, on the FOT WEBSITE. At least the schedule for TRIUMPH opportunities....have we achieved our own run group? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Joe Henry To: fot Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 8:45 am Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Good Morning, I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a Feature race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race scheduled for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? Thanks. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Tue Mar 27 08:44:15 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:44:15 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule References: Message-ID: <0FA604F4979F48CF89D988C8A49FE465@TRIUMPH.local> Joe, I was unaware HSR finally got the provisional schedule posted. Thanks for the heads up. Our times are Friday 11:35 - Practive 4:40 - Practive 5:30 - Enduro Saturday 8:15 - Qualifying 12:45 - Grid the Kastner Cup Race 1:05 - Kastner Cup race goes off Sunday 4:30 - Group 1 Feature Race Remember, for an additional 1/2 entry fee, the same car can enter HSR's normal group, and get another 5 sessions! Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Henry" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:40 AM Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule > Good Morning, > I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a > Feature > race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race > scheduled > for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? > Thanks. > > Joe Downer > Charlotte, N.C. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04 at tr4racer.com From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 27 08:55:11 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:55:11 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DFCA926DE434C8491A7F9AD2DBD7AFC@gdhs.local> Who knows? It is not clear wether we get to run in the regular HSR classes & the small bore enduro or not. Does anyone have the answer???? Also....is it manditory that TR's pit in the so called "pro-pits"? That could be a bit of a problem for me with the TR3 and Historic Cup car in the same rig. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Henry Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:40 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Good Morning, I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a Feature race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race scheduled for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? Thanks. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From harmug at us.ibm.com Tue Mar 27 12:30:08 2012 From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:30:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 64, Issue 37 Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From the HSR website http://www.hsrrace.com/2012_Events/3_Mitty_Apr_26_29/Event_Info/Mitty_Schedule.pdf see you all there 63 Spit #7 G. Michael Harmuth From mnewman at embarqmail.com Tue Mar 27 13:32:44 2012 From: mnewman at embarqmail.com (William T newman) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:32:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Message-ID: <1521068153.1271941.1332876764752.JavaMail.root@md23.embarq.synacor.com> I made a phone call to Judy at HSR about a month ago just after the registration became available. She told me that us Triumph folks will have our own run group, but can also race the Dash series for our HSR class and can also run the Small Bore Enduro. This is lots of track time if you want it. You may want to call her to confirm what she told me. I will be calling her soon to confirm my car # and if we will be for sure using the pro paddock. Look for me to arrive on Thursday with GT6 #44. Bill Newman From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 27 14:19:42 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] FOT SWAP MEET THE MITTY TR6 SHORT BLOCK Message-ID: <8CEDA6E14154C1F-994-4884@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com> i have a tr6 block with crank, pistons and rods assembled in it. if any one is strongly interested, i will drag this assembly to the mitty. contact me off list. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From cartravel at pobox.com Tue Mar 27 17:49:45 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:49:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Message-ID: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> I'm in the midst of my TR250 restoration. I want to warm up the engine, so the hardwired carbs will not do. I know Richard Good sells a system to convert the non adjustable ones, but would it be better to just get a set from a different year? I've already bought a set of TR4a Strombergs, since they are simple and adjustable. Is there a better choice if you want a good carb that is adjustable for tuning mods? I'm trying to keep the looks of this car original, so I don't want SU's, PI or Webers, just good adjustable Strombergs.. Thanks, Larry Young From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Mar 27 18:52:43 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:52:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs References: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> Message-ID: <7EA7BDA9045142F2A5F381C7A72C1AF3@owner8914bbf7f> Larry, that's what I'm running on my TR6, a set of ZS from an earlier TR4. 1 3/4, with the adjustment screw in the bottom of the bowl. Seem to work fine for me, and cost effective (cheap!) The biggest cost was the overhaul kits. And I had to fabricate some linkage. No biggie. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" To: "FOT" Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:49 PM Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > I'm in the midst of my TR250 restoration. I want to warm up the engine, > so the hardwired carbs will not do. I know Richard Good sells a system to > convert the non adjustable ones, but would it be better to just get a set > from a different year? I've already bought a set of TR4a Strombergs, > since they are simple and adjustable. Is there a better choice if you > want a good carb that is adjustable for tuning mods? I'm trying to keep > the looks of this car original, so I don't want SU's, PI or Webers, just > good adjustable Strombergs.. > Thanks, > Larry Young > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 27 19:49:10 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: <1521068153.1271941.1332876764752.JavaMail.root@md23.embarq.synacor.com> References: <1521068153.1271941.1332876764752.JavaMail.root@md23.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <1332899350.75774.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Bill... I too will be coming in Wednesday night or early Thursday morning... would like to 'pit' with the GT6's .. FoT.... looking at the HSR provisional schedule what group would I be in the the DP Triumph GT-6+ .. 2.0 liter engine? Do we need to reserve an area in the pro paddock with HSR or Road Atlanta? ... money for the paddock? Bobby Whitehead #39 DP Triumph GT-6+ ________________________________ From: William T newman To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, March 27, 2012 2:32:44 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule I made a phone call to Judy at HSR about a month ago just after the registration became available. She told me that us Triumph folks will have our own run group, but can also race the Dash series for our HSR class and can also run the Small Bore Enduro. This is lots of track time if you want it. You may want to call her to confirm what she told me. I will be calling her soon to confirm my car # and if we will be for sure using the pro paddock. Look for me to arrive on Thursday with GT6 #44. Bill Newman _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From spyderweb at uwalumni.com Tue Mar 27 19:49:22 2012 From: spyderweb at uwalumni.com (Jim Hill) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:49:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 Body Panels Message-ID: Fellow Triumphphisti -- Now that my TR6 race car has been sold, I have no need for the fibreglass body panels that I'd bought for use in case of an accident. FortunateIy I had no shunts and so the body panels are are no longer needed and need a better home than my garage in Madison, Wisconsin. Anyone interested can contact me for details at: spyderweb at uwalumni.com or by phone at 608-259-0507 Thanks, Jim Hill From mark at bradakis.com Tue Mar 27 23:02:10 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:02:10 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> References: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4F729B52.4080706@bradakis.com> Adjustable 175 Strombergs were also available on early Sunbeam Alpines. mjb. From gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Wed Mar 28 02:33:40 2012 From: gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:33:40 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Message-ID: The carbs that came on Sunbeam Alpines were 150 CD, 1 1/2" throttle bore. Using the 175 CD carbs 0n a TR-6 can certainly be done successfully, but be sure to change the mixture needles. Using the TR-4 needles on a 2.5 liter engine will result in to rich a mixture that will end up washing down the cylinders with fuel and premature engine wear. The larger engine "sucks harder" on the carburetors. The vacuum generated over the jet goes up as the square of the air velocity. The carbs have no "air corrector" jet to prevent the mixture going overly rich at high load, ie. high intake air velocity. Leaner needles need to be fitted. Compare the needle profile of the 2A needle in the TR-4 carb with that of the needle in a TR-6 carb. The difference is not all because of emissions. Greg Solow The Engine Room Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, CA 95060 831 429-1800 ------- Original Message ------- >From : Mark J Bradakis[mailto:mark at bradakis.com] Sent : 3/27/2012 10:02:10 PM To : fot at autox.team.net Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Adjustable 175 Strombergs were also available on early Sunbeam Alpines. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Mar 28 05:57:49 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I cannot confirm that (yet). In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 28 06:10:00 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs with the use of shim stock. thought i would mention it, anyway. it provides a lot of choices Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: gregmogdoc Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Hi, Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I cannot confirm that (yet). In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 07:09:07 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:09:07 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Joe Curto can help you out with the needles On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs > with > the use of shim stock. > > thought i would mention it, anyway. > > it provides a lot of choices > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert M. Lang > To: gregmogdoc > Cc: fot > Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > Hi, > > Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with > Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote > down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I > cannot confirm that (yet). > > In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm > that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. > > In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. > > The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on > the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Mar 28 07:39:14 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Robert Deanes wrote: > Joe Curto can help you out with the needles Oddly enough, when I called Joe C. and gave him my engine specs, he wasn't really able to suggest anything. I had seen a suggestion for the B1AR, so I bought those... Poking around a bit more on the web this morning, I got some ideas on what to look for, but I have to measure what I have first before I will be buying anything. I know about the SU needles too. The fact that there are so many choices was the basis of the query. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Mar 28 08:34:12 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:34:12 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7927218D8B144624A88445597D12E8BD@Charly> Interesting that the Jag needle is the preferred choice. When I was running carbs on my TR6 I made my own needles using the specs for a Jag 3.8 motor, my thinking was that I wanted my 6 to run like a Jag. Reshaping a needle is fairly easy, chuck up the needle in a drill and use some emery cloth to shape it as you rotate it. I created a gauge with marks on it every 1/8" to measure the diameter as I went. very easy to do and worked very well, nice to have a couple of extra needles to experiment with. Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: "Robert Deanes" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Robert Deanes wrote: > >> Joe Curto can help you out with the needles > > Oddly enough, when I called Joe C. and gave him my engine specs, he wasn't > really able to suggest anything. I had seen a suggestion for the B1AR, so > I bought those... > > Poking around a bit more on the web this morning, I got some ideas on what > to look for, but I have to measure what I have first before I will be > buying anything. > > I know about the SU needles too. The fact that there are so many choices > was the basis of the query. > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com From BillDentin at aol.com Wed Mar 28 11:24:58 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... Message-ID: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> Dear Henry, et al... I have very limited HSR racing experience (Sebring, etc), but looking over the Provisional Schedule that they have posted on their website for the MITTY, I am concerned about TECH. I can find no reference to TECH being available on either Wednesday or Thursday. That sure would be a surprise to me. It is listed on Friday between 7:30 AM and 5:00 PM, which hardly seems sufficient to accommodate their ambitious racing schedule that starts on Friday at 8 AM. A bright note is our first scheduled session is not until 11:35 AM, but that still strikes me as a potential issue. We have enough prep issues to deal with, without long lines for TECH. TECH is also listed for 8:00 AM until noon on Saturday, but not thereafter. That may not be an issue as TECH is often 'as needed or by appointment' thereafter at an event. But it sure seems like there ought to be TECH opportunities on both Wednesday and Thursday. I don't know about HSR, but her ex-sister, SVRA, used to allow special TECH provisions in the competition paddock at their events for the featured marque (that'd be us here). Any chance that could/would happen here? Could/would HSR assign TECH people to scrutinize our cars in the competition paddock? Likewise in recent years there's been a movement to 'involve a self-TECH' during the official TECH process. With people they trusted to do it correctly, they'd provide the TECH form, you'd TECH your own car, sign that you had done so, and be given a TECH sticker. Any chance this or a similar process might be considered for the MITTY. I am NOT trying to get out of anything, nor avoid scrutiny... rather just trying to encourage a reasonable, efficient TECH process here. Just thinking out loud. Bill Dentinger From jhhasty at gdhs.com Wed Mar 28 11:39:09 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:39:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... In-Reply-To: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> References: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> Message-ID: <8AA3AA15F7BF4687847056C8198A6A63@gdhs.local> The schedule I have shows Tec on Thursday 7 to 5, on Friday 7 to 5 and our first practice on Friday @8:40. I checked with the HSR tec. Guy and he will honor any recognized group's annual tec and only require that you bring your helmet and Hans device to tec along with your log book showing the annual and no write ups since. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:25 PM To: henry at henryfrye.com Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... Dear Henry, et al... I have very limited HSR racing experience (Sebring, etc), but looking over the Provisional Schedule that they have posted on their website for the MITTY, I am concerned about TECH. I can find no reference to TECH being available on either Wednesday or Thursday. That sure would be a surprise to me. It is listed on Friday between 7:30 AM and 5:00 PM, which hardly seems sufficient to accommodate their ambitious racing schedule that starts on Friday at 8 AM. A bright note is our first scheduled session is not until 11:35 AM, but that still strikes me as a potential issue. We have enough prep issues to deal with, without long lines for TECH. TECH is also listed for 8:00 AM until noon on Saturday, but not thereafter. That may not be an issue as TECH is often 'as needed or by appointment' thereafter at an event. But it sure seems like there ought to be TECH opportunities on both Wednesday and Thursday. I don't know about HSR, but her ex-sister, SVRA, used to allow special TECH provisions in the competition paddock at their events for the featured marque (that'd be us here). Any chance that could/would happen here? Could/would HSR assign TECH people to scrutinize our cars in the competition paddock? Likewise in recent years there's been a movement to 'involve a self-TECH' during the official TECH process. With people they trusted to do it correctly, they'd provide the TECH form, you'd TECH your own car, sign that you had done so, and be given a TECH sticker. Any chance this or a similar process might be considered for the MITTY. I am NOT trying to get out of anything, nor avoid scrutiny... rather just trying to encourage a reasonable, efficient TECH process here. Just thinking out loud. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Wed Mar 28 11:58:08 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Tech at the Mitty References: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> Message-ID: <4841EEB638B24DD887140DEB26205627@TRIUMPH.local> HSR has promised to send a tech guy over to us at the Pro Pits. I will try top find out when we can expect to see him, and will report back to everyone. Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com From BillDentin at aol.com Wed Mar 28 11:59:18 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... Message-ID: <8dbd4.6f230ceb.3ca4ab76@aol.com> In a message dated 03/28/2012 11:39:18 AM Central Standard Time, jhhasty at gdhs.com writes: > The schedule I have shows Tec on Thursday 7 to 5, on Friday 7 to 5 and > our > first practice on Friday @8:40. I checked with the HSR tec. Guy and he > will > honor any recognized group's annual tec and only require that you bring > your > helmet and Hans device to tec along with your log book showing the annual > and no write ups since. > Interesting. What you are describing sure makes more sense. Ironically my copy is pretty fresh. I downloaded it from the HSR website just last night. It lists Practice Group 8 Historic Stock Cars at 8:40 AM and the TRIUMPHS (Group 1) at 11:35 on Friday, I am sure it will all get sorted out, and I am encouraged to hear HSR has a portability policy in place with regard to Annual Tech by other sanctioning groups. Good for HSR. Bill Dentinger From jhhasty at gdhs.com Wed Mar 28 12:06:29 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:06:29 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... In-Reply-To: <8dbd4.6f230ceb.3ca4ab76@aol.com> References: <8dbd4.6f230ceb.3ca4ab76@aol.com> Message-ID: <36455152E0EF4BD9B5881474CC4B3492@gdhs.local> you are correct.....it'ss 11:35 my mistake we have a cup car too and I looked at the wrong time.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _____ From: BillDentin at aol.com [mailto:BillDentin at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:59 PM To: jhhasty at gdhs.com; henry at henryfrye.com Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... In a message dated 03/28/2012 11:39:18 AM Central Standard Time, jhhasty at gdhs.com writes: The schedule I have shows Tec on Thursday 7 to 5, on Friday 7 to 5 and our first practice on Friday @8:40. I checked with the HSR tec. Guy and he will honor any recognized group's annual tec and only require that you bring your helmet and Hans device to tec along with your log book showing the annual and no write ups since. Interesting. What you are describing sure makes more sense. Ironically my copy is pretty fresh. I downloaded it from the HSR website just last night. It lists Practice Group 8 Historic Stock Cars at 8:40 AM and the TRIUMPHS (Group 1) at 11:35 on Friday, I am sure it will all get sorted out, and I am encouraged to hear HSR has a portability policy in place with regard to Annual Tech by other sanctioning groups. Good for HSR. Bill Dentinger From kaskas at cox.net Wed Mar 28 12:31:10 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:31:10 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <7927218D8B144624A88445597D12E8BD@Charly> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com>, , <7927218D8B144624A88445597D12E8BD@Charly> Message-ID: Making a new needle in a drill press or other is not a big job, BUT, making a matching needle is a BIG DEAL. Be certfain to take measurments along the needle so you at least have a half chance of making a matching pair of needles. this is nearly as sensative for a street machine as a race car. Somehere in on of my books I explained how make a device to do all this with some deegree of accuracy. Never be beaten by equipment > From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com > To: lang at isis.mit.edu; rfdeanes at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:34:12 -0700 > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > Interesting that the Jag needle is the preferred choice. When I was running > carbs on my TR6 I made my own needles using the specs for a Jag 3.8 motor, > my thinking was that I wanted my 6 to run like a Jag. > Reshaping a needle is fairly easy, chuck up the needle in a drill and use > some emery cloth to shape it as you rotate it. I created a gauge with marks > on it every 1/8" to measure the diameter as I went. very easy to do and > worked very well, nice to have a couple of extra needles to experiment with. > > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert M. Lang" > To: "Robert Deanes" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Robert Deanes wrote: > > > >> Joe Curto can help you out with the needles > > > > Oddly enough, when I called Joe C. and gave him my engine specs, he wasn't > > really able to suggest anything. I had seen a suggestion for the B1AR, so > > I bought those... > > > > Poking around a bit more on the web this morning, I got some ideas on what > > to look for, but I have to measure what I have first before I will be > > buying anything. > > > > I know about the SU needles too. The fact that there are so many choices > > was the basis of the query. > > > > regards, > > rml > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > Former NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas at cox.net From cartravel at pobox.com Wed Mar 28 13:21:25 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:21:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> Is the shim stock used to make the diameter of the end larger? Please explain. There are lists and even a little Windows program for all the SU needles. Is similar data available for the Stromberg needles? I have reshaped SU needles as suggested. I made some that worked well and then ordered a matching set from Joe Curto. Thanks, Larry On 3/28/2012 7:10 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs with > the use of shim stock. > > thought i would mention it, anyway. > > it provides a lot of choices > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert M. Lang > To: gregmogdoc > Cc: fot > Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > Hi, > > Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with > Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote > down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I > cannot confirm that (yet). > > In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm > that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. > > In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. > > The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on > the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com From kaskas at cox.net Wed Mar 28 13:46:33 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:46:33 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> References: , , <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com>, <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> Message-ID: I explain this in one of my early books. How to use an SU needle in a Stromberg carb: The difference in the shank of each needle is .013". The SU being the smaller. So I made a little tube out of .006" shim stock cut in half length wise which left me a half tube. Fit the half tube around the needle shank with the open side of the tube towards the grub screw which hold the needle in position. You will never notice the .0005" differnce in the diameters. I did this first in 1968 and works just as well today. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:21:25 -0500 > From: cartravel at pobox.com > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > Is the shim stock used to make the diameter of the end larger? Please > explain. > > There are lists and even a little Windows program for all the SU > needles. Is similar data available for the Stromberg needles? > > I have reshaped SU needles as suggested. I made some that worked well > and then ordered a matching set from Joe Curto. > Thanks, > Larry > > On 3/28/2012 7:10 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs with > > the use of shim stock. > > > > thought i would mention it, anyway. > > > > it provides a lot of choices > > > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > A. R. E. > > 645 1st Street > > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > > 319.464.4711 (cell) > > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert M. Lang > > To: gregmogdoc > > Cc: fot > > Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with > > Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote > > down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I > > cannot confirm that (yet). > > > > In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm > > that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. > > > > In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. > > > > The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on > > the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): > > > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm > > > > regards, > > rml > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > Former NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas at cox.net From tr4racing at googlemail.com Wed Mar 28 15:49:05 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:49:05 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> Is Jim Lee known to the group? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q Cheers Chris From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Wed Mar 28 16:15:37 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:15:37 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> Message-ID: <26C5683C-4C89-4DF0-A6FF-51155D4D02BD@austin.rr.com> Yes, he's a Texas guy. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Is Jim Lee known to the group? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From igofaster at att.net Wed Mar 28 16:18:32 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> Message-ID: <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> dang.... I was crying!!! awesome! Bobby ________________________________ From: MadMarx To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 4:49:05 PM Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee Is Jim Lee known to the group? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From cartravel at pobox.com Wed Mar 28 17:39:31 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:39:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: , , <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com>, <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4F73A133.3040100@pobox.com> Kas, I'm sure I speak for others as well, but there is just too much in your books to keep it all in my feeble brain. Thank you for writing it down. On 3/28/2012 2:46 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > I explain this in one of my early books. How to use an SU needle in a > Stromberg carb: The difference in the shank of each needle is > .013". The SU being the smaller. So I made a little tube out of .006" > shim stock cut in half length wise which left me a half tube. Fit the > half tube around the needle shank with the open side of the tube > towards the grub screw which hold the needle in position. You will > never notice the .0005" differnce in the diameters. I did this first > in 1968 and works just as well today. > > Never be beaten by equipment From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Wed Mar 28 17:45:23 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:45:23 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jim still has that TR4. He comes to TWS every once in a while. His brother John is a more regular visitor. The TR4 was John's first but he is a Mini guy now, but not a racer. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > dang.... I was crying!!! awesome! Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: MadMarx > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 4:49:05 PM > Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee > > Is Jim Lee known to the group? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From jason at multivintage.com Wed Mar 28 17:50:59 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:50:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just checked my log books. My GT6+ was racing there that weekend. Don't see it in this video though. Probably broke a trans or something.... Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 GT6+ #27 On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > dang.... I was crying!!! awesome! Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: MadMarx > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 4:49:05 PM > Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee > > Is Jim Lee known to the group? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From jason at multivintage.com Wed Mar 28 18:58:49 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:58:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy Message-ID: A Moment of Awesomeness. I am lucky to have very detailed visual memory. I just drifted away for moment of awesomeness as I thought about FOT and how cool the Triumph Life has become. All these images of race cars in my head; legendary, old, new. The people and the cars... heroes. Builders, Drivers, Crew, Entrepreneurs, Manufactures, Teachers. Several generations with dedication to Racing Triumphs lurk here and respond in kind. Never has the small Triumph Racing niche been so BIG. The 10th Kastner Cup Race... Road Atlanta... Holy crap. 1 more month. Sending my official entry in the morning. Until then, I'll be in my garage.... getting ready. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 28 19:06:06 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEDB5F40CAD94B-1C78-DA53@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Pretty profound Jason...... And mostly it has to do with people. The Mitty will bring it all together very nicely. We will miss those who are unable to make it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 7:59 pm Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy A Moment of Awesomeness. I am lucky to have very detailed visual memory. I just drifted away for moment of awesomeness as I thought about FOT and how cool the Triumph Life has become. All these images of race cars in my head; legendary, old, new. The people and the cars... heroes. Builders, Drivers, Crew, Entrepreneurs, Manufactures, Teachers. Several generations with dedication to Racing Triumphs lurk here and respond in kind. Never has the small Triumph Racing niche been so BIG. The 10th Kastner Cup Race... Road Atlanta... Holy crap. 1 more month. Sending my official entry in the morning. Until then, I'll be in my garage.... getting ready. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From horizonracing at msn.com Thu Mar 29 08:58:27 2012 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:58:27 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR hearld Message-ID: Good Day all, I'm in the need of a pair of brake caipler mounts for the Triumph hearld upright or vertal link. please contact me off list. Thank you Tony Garmey From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 29 15:14:31 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION Message-ID: <8CEDC08111B2B7E-E84-13EE@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. re: John Styduhar He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at BEAVERRUN. John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be nice to add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. What say ye, FOT? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu Mar 29 15:16:54 2012 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION Message-ID: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> Another TR3! I second! Welcome John Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. > > re: John Styduhar > > He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. > > His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at > BEAVERRUN. > > John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be > nice to > add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. > > What say ye, FOT? > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 29 15:25:19 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION In-Reply-To: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> References: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> Message-ID: <8CEDC099212A984-E84-1587@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> Thanks Todd! OK John, you are in....and can now compare notes with list members on a global basis. Mark Bradakis..... John Styduhar = johnstydo at gmail.com PLUNK YOUR MAGIC TWANGER, one more time. = -----Original Message----- From: Todd Redmond Subject: RE: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION Another TR3! I second! Welcome John Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. > > re: John Styduhar > > He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. > > His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at > BEAVERRUN. > > John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be > nice to > add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. > > What say ye, FOT? > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 29 17:08:50 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1333062530.43416.YahooMailRC@web180818.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> so I'm counting three GT-6's so far with me, Jason, and Bill Newman... is there another one or two? Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 7:58:49 PM Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy A Moment of Awesomeness. I am lucky to have very detailed visual memory. I just drifted away for moment of awesomeness as I thought about FOT and how cool the Triumph Life has become. All these images of race cars in my head; legendary, old, new. The people and the cars... heroes. Builders, Drivers, Crew, Entrepreneurs, Manufactures, Teachers. Several generations with dedication to Racing Triumphs lurk here and respond in kind. Never has the small Triumph Racing niche been so BIG. The 10th Kastner Cup Race... Road Atlanta... Holy crap. 1 more month. Sending my official entry in the morning. Until then, I'll be in my garage.... getting ready. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 29 18:56:44 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:56:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION In-Reply-To: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> References: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> Message-ID: Great ! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > Another TR3! > > I second! > > Welcome John > > Todd Redmond > 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. >> >> re: John Styduhar >> >> He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. >> >> His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at BEAVERRUN. >> >> John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be nice to >> add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. >> >> What say ye, FOT? >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 29 18:59:19 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:59:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION In-Reply-To: <8CEDC099212A984-E84-1587@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> References: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> <8CEDC099212A984-E84-1587@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7469AE77-7435-4C23-9098-76968426D1B1@gdhs.com> Hey John.....just make sure your 3 is not as fast as mine! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Thanks Todd! > > OK John, you are in....and can now compare notes with list members on a global > basis. > > Mark Bradakis..... John Styduhar = johnstydo at gmail.com > > PLUNK YOUR MAGIC TWANGER, one more time. > > > > > > > = > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Redmond > > Subject: RE: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER > CONSTRUCTION > > > Another TR3! > > I second! > > Welcome John > > Todd Redmond > 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. >> >> re: John Styduhar >> >> He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. >> >> His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at >> BEAVERRUN. >> >> John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be >> nice to >> add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. >> >> What say ye, FOT? >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From mini at wi.rr.com Thu Mar 29 19:31:25 2012 From: mini at wi.rr.com (Richard Gehweiler) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:31:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Repair Shop Message-ID: <4F750CED.5080506@wi.rr.com> We have a customer that has temporarily moved to the south western San Francisco Bay area. We have taken care of her much loved TR6 for years and just shipped it to her from Wisconsin. Any recommendations for a reputable repair shop in that area? She is a very nice person and has been a great customer, but is not very knowledgeable about cars, so we don't want someone who is going to take advantage of her. I will pass any FOT recommendations on to her. Thanks Richard Gehweiler Stonefield Vintage, LLC. From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Thu Mar 29 22:47:01 2012 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:47:01 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Repair Shop In-Reply-To: <4F750CED.5080506@wi.rr.com> References: <4F750CED.5080506@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: That would be Greg Solows territory. jg Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Richard Gehweiler wrote: > We have a customer that has temporarily moved to the south western > San Francisco Bay area. We have taken care of her much loved TR6 for > years and just shipped it to her from Wisconsin. Any recommendations > for a reputable repair shop in that area? She is a very nice person > and has been a great customer, but is not very knowledgeable about > cars, so we don't want someone who is going to take advantage of > her. I will pass any FOT recommendations on to her. > > Thanks > > Richard Gehweiler > Stonefield Vintage, LLC. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sat Mar 31 16:00:23 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Spiitfire rear springs Message-ID: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Group: I again need to borrow from the collective wisdom of the group, this time concerning Spitfire rear leaf springs. I have a customer with a Spit-Six that has excessive positive camber. The rear is built using the higher ratio GT6 diff, an early GT6 rear spring, and early, narrow axles. I am well aware of Kas's recommendation to de-arch the springs on the early non-pivot type spring to 3.5", but what complicates this is that the owner used the GT6 spring, which has eight leafs instead of the seven leafs used in the Spitfire. Obviously the GT6 used the additional leaf to aid in support of the extra weight in the rear, but, I do not know which leaf to remove to make the spring have the same rate as the Spit. I do not have any non-pivot type in the shop to measure the leaf lengths. Do any list members have a Spit non-pivoting leaf spring available to measure the spring lengths? Perhaps a lister has been through this before? I know I will more than likely still have to de-arch the spring, but at least we can get closer to the desired height/rate by removing the unwanted leaf. I also have another question for the group. Perhaps all the engineering degrees are getting in the way of common sense, or vice-verse. If the distance between the eyelets on the spring are X, wouldn't de-arching (flattening out) the spring spread the eyelets further apart (straightening out a curve)? Wouldn't this move the top of the vertical links out farther? Wouldn't that add positive camber? We know we de-arch to add negative camber (we have all seen it happen), but my mind keeps asking why it doesn't go more positive. My son, who is also a Aerospace Engineering student at UTA, and I have put pencil to paper together and come up with the tops of the links moving outward. but nature is contradicting us. Some incite please. Thanks Ed Barnard From tony at tonydrews.com Sat Mar 31 16:16:38 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:16:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head, can it be repaired? Message-ID: I found the source of my "head gasket" leaks - a cracked head. It's cracked around the inner circumference of where it meets the liner in #4 cylinder. Picture is here: http://www.tonydrews.com/Test%20Pics/2012_0331Head_Crack0007.JPG Is this something that can be fixed, or should I start brushing up on my head porting techniques and build another head? Thanks, Tony Drews Hoping to make the Mitty still... From tr6nut at verizon.net Sat Mar 31 16:24:51 2012 From: tr6nut at verizon.net (Hugh Barber) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:24:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spiitfire rear springs In-Reply-To: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F778433.3070809@verizon.net> Ed, We are talking about swing axles. The connection between the hubs and the axles are fixed (there is only a u-joint on the inner end of the axles). Therefore, when you de-arch the spring, you get more negative camber. Hugh Barber On 3/31/2012 06:00, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > ..... > Perhaps all the engineering degrees are getting in the way of common sense, or > vice-verse. If the distance between the eyelets on the spring are X, wouldn't > de-arching (flattening out) the spring spread the eyelets further apart > (straightening out a curve)? Wouldn't this move the top of the vertical links > out farther? Wouldn't that add positive camber? We know we de-arch to add > negative camber (we have all seen it happen), but my mind keeps asking why it > doesn't go more positive. My son, who is also a Aerospace Engineering student > at UTA, and I have put pencil to paper together and come up with the tops of > the links moving outward. but nature is contradicting us. > Some incite please. > Thanks > Ed Barnard From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Mar 31 17:29:07 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head, can it be repaired? In-Reply-To: <20120331223502.1E46E2D08F0@autox.team.net> References: <20120331223502.1E46E2D08F0@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8CEDDAD33DA3455-C50-49CA@webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com> There is a place in Nevada, Iowa that specializes in that kind of repair. Certainly it would be worth having them do the fix. I'll start googling their contact info. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot Sent: Sat, Mar 31, 2012 5:35 pm Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head, can it be repaired? I found the source of my "head gasket" leaks - a cracked head. It's cracked around the inner circumference of where it meets the liner in #4 cylinder. Picture is here: http://www.tonydrews.com/Test%20Pics/2012_0331Head_Crack0007.JPG Is this something that can be fixed, or should I start brushing up on my head porting techniques and build another head? Thanks, Tony Drews Hoping to make the Mitty still... _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Mar 31 17:39:50 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] midwestcylinderhead.com Message-ID: <8CEDDAEB2F6FE43-C50-4A59@webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com> good website..........we have a head we should take there, too. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From mark at bradakis.com Sat Mar 31 19:20:23 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:20:23 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Spiitfire rear springs In-Reply-To: <4F778433.3070809@verizon.net> References: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4F778433.3070809@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4F77AD57.5050904@bradakis.com> Look at a clock. A good old fashioned round one, with two hands and numbers. Suppose the minute hand is pointing to 4. Suppose the minute hand is your axle, with the wheel perpendicular to it. What would the camber look like? Now suppose the minute hand or axle is pointing to 3, which is a bit further out than the 4. What does that camber look like? mjb. From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Mar 1 04:46:34 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 06:46:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Registrants Message-ID: We got the word from HSR yesterday, only 19 of us registered so far. Not the strong showing I was hoping for! This is why everybody needs to seriously consider this event: Track time. We will have our own run group. If we reasonably fill the group, we will be running with only Triumphs all weekend! In addition to the normal race schedule, we are getting a bonus session Saturday afternoon for the Kastner Cup race. On Sunday, we are getting the Small Bore Enduro for free! For an extra $260, we can run in the Triumph group AND the HSR Group 2 all weekend. You guys bringing two drivers, this is cheap track time! Plus Thursday is available as a test day. Full Cash Refund. Sign up for the fun, pay your money and if you need to cancel anytime before rolling your race car off the trailer in the paddock, HSR promises a full cash refund. Huge Triumph turnout expected. Both race cars and street cars. An all Triumph car show and other activities are going on thanks to the Georgia Triumphs Association. Triumph VIP's. Kas Kastner, Bob Tullius, Jack Wheeler, Bob Johns, and more. Talk racing with the legends in our sport! Parties: Our friends at Classic Motorsports have been doing this for a while, and have figured out how to put on a great time. Tim Suddard is buying the beer. Really. I am not kidding... (Again, thanks Tim!) Triumphs ARE the featured Marque. This is an event centered around us for a change. I believe we have been able to get everything we needed from the organizers to make this an event worthy the our significant anniversaries we are celebrating. 60 years of Triumph Sports Cars 50 years of Spitfires 10th running for the Kastner Cup Hope to see you all there! Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com From sjanzen at me.com Thu Mar 1 09:00:29 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 11:00:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 References: <4C720C17-D7A2-4267-8AD8-A31AF0F74991@REcatalyst.com> Message-ID: <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I can make. Scott Triumph GT6 From cartravel at pobox.com Thu Mar 1 09:21:00 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 10:21:00 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4FA1EC.8080805@pobox.com> Bob, thanks for the race report. Glad to hear the CVAR Triumphs are now back in full force. When I was running there were a few times when there were one or none. Who lit the fire under Bobby or did someone pawn a supercharger? Last time I saw him run, he was closer to the back than the front. Way to go. On 2/28/2012 12:57 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Part 2 From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 1 09:38:58 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 In-Reply-To: <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> References: <4C720C17-D7A2-4267-8AD8-A31AF0F74991@REcatalyst.com> <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> Message-ID: Me and my TR3A will be there...... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:00 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I can make. Scott Triumph GT6 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From mediehljr at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 11:07:39 2012 From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:07:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 1 11:11:11 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:11:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CEC5EDD0E025AB-1280-11E84@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> OH MY.....a GT6 shootout! 2nd Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 12:08 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jason at multivintage.com Thu Mar 1 11:14:20 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:14:20 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <8CEC5EDD0E025AB-1280-11E84@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> References: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CEC5EDD0E025AB-1280-11E84@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <159753284-1330625660-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-417383623-@b28.c3.bise6.blackberry> Can't wait! I second! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+ Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:11:11 To: ; Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination OH MY.....a GT6 shootout! 2nd Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 12:08 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From rfdeanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:16:24 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:16:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 In-Reply-To: <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> References: <4C720C17-D7A2-4267-8AD8-A31AF0F74991@REcatalyst.com> <2AB25AA4-F38E-4DFB-A288-5AA6842B34ED@me.com> Message-ID: I am sure the whole "Ghetto" will be there, we usually have 15 or more TRs and this year should be no exception, lots of track time and good food and friends.Great event, good opportunity to see why we like VIR, you come and you will be back next year ! On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's > two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I > can make. > > Scott > Triumph GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From BillDentin at aol.com Thu Mar 1 11:20:35 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:20:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Wild Hare VDCA at VIR April 13-15 Message-ID: <44663.2d7134d3.3c8117f3@aol.com> In a message dated 03/01/2012 10:04:13 AM Central Standard Time, sjanzen at me.com writes: > I just registered for this race weekend. Anyone else going? I know it's > two weekends before the Mitty, but the Mitty is just a longer drive than I > can make. > I won't be there, but I am pretty sure it is on Bob Wismer's list. He should be there in his TR4. Bill Dentinger From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 11:24:17 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:24:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1330625259.79770.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1330626257.73662.YahooMailRC@web180809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of 18 so far??? A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From John.Reed at wilson.com Thu Mar 1 12:01:49 2012 From: John.Reed at wilson.com (Reed, John) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:01:49 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1330626257.73662.YahooMailRC@web180809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. John Reed Zippy Racing #69 BRG DP GT6+ On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of 18 so far??? A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed at wilson.com John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services [cid:3413451709_120557496] Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] From spitlist at cox.net Thu Mar 1 12:26:20 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:26:20 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Rick Kristoff Message-ID: <75AF79BD6E754A478333A3DD1CCAC9C1@Vista> Sorry to bomb the list, but would Rick Kristoff please contact me. Thanks, Joe Curry From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 1 12:59:11 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:59:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEC5FCE7D4D273-1280-12C60@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> yes! it's not too late. just do it! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Reed, John To: Bobby Whitehead ; Ed Diehl Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 1:02 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. John Reed Zippy Racing #69 BRG DP GT6+ On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of 18 so far??? A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, 1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman (mnewman at embarqmail.com) Cheers, Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed at wilson.com John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services [cid:3413451709_120557496] Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Mar 1 13:18:09 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty References: Message-ID: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> I also know Tim Suddard is planning on bringing the Group 44 GT6 that he just restored. I think the current plan is it will be a static display, as they are planning on selling the car at one of the big auctions this year. Sounds like we might just have one heck of a gaggle of GT6's down there. It would be great to see Zippy on track again, John! Scott Janzen, are you listening??? Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reed, John" > WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. From jason at multivintage.com Thu Mar 1 13:49:00 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:49:00 -0600 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 From sjanzen at me.com Thu Mar 1 14:47:48 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:47:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> I'd love to be there. It would be like, I think it was the 1971 runoffs, with six GT6s in the race. My car was one of them. Too much of a tow for me and I've got too much day job work to do. On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com From rfdeanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 15:17:26 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:17:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> Message-ID: It will be years before the Kasner Cup is back on the east coast....plenty of time to plan it ! On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I'd love to be there. It would be like, I think it was the 1971 runoffs, > with six GT6s in the race. My car was one of them. > Too much of a tow for me and I've got too much day job work to do. > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" > > Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. > Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. > > Hee Hee > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From rfdeanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 15:18:31 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:18:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <42BE83A9-A8CE-4519-B685-0E5C50172731@me.com> Message-ID: now if I can just spell !! long day On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I'd love to be there. It would be like, I think it was the 1971 runoffs, > with six GT6s in the race. My car was one of them. > Too much of a tow for me and I've got too much day job work to do. > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" > > Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. > Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. > > Hee Hee > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From cwnfot at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 16:32:36 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:32:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FS: Small journal Spitfire 1300 Message-ID: <02c501ccf803$963c8240$c2b586c0$@com> I came across an engine (and transmission) on EBay that is from a 1967 Mk3. The auction ended soon after I came upon it. Block number is: FE 14320 E EBay item is (it is still viewable): 170786971933 Item location: Birdsboro Pa which is South-East of Reading, PA Starting bid was $80 I contacted the seller, he has already sold the dual carb intake manifold. I told him of the thrust washer concern. He can be contacted at: tom kelly [tommmmmy at netzero.net] I have no interest other than saving it from the scrap-yard! Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From mlcooknj at msn.com Thu Mar 1 17:11:44 2012 From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:11:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> References: , <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: I'm tickled about the GT6 being "static". Last time I saw it, the car had a problem - it wanted to run on two cylinders but couldn't decide which two. It took the longest parade lap in RA history. Mike Cook > From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com > To: fot at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:18:09 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty > > I also know Tim Suddard is planning on bringing the Group 44 GT6 that he > just restored. I think the current plan is it will be a static display, as > they are planning on selling the car at one of the big auctions this year. > > Sounds like we might just have one heck of a gaggle of GT6's down there. It > would be great to see Zippy on track again, John! > > Scott Janzen, are you listening??? > > Henry > yellow04 at tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reed, John" > > > > WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj at msn.com From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 18:35:20 2012 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Windows Live Team) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 01:35:20 +0000 Subject: [Fot] weight on cars Message-ID: I heard that SCCA is requiring that your car's weight must be on your car for this year. I can't get any info from SCCA. Does anyone know where it goes on the cars and how high the letters must be. Thanks, Lorne From cwnfot at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:19:56 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:19:56 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [FOT] weight on cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02e101ccf81a$f6c02f10$e4408d30$@com> Everything should be in the SCCA GCR's Link to which at this location: http://www.scca.com/clubracing/content.cfm?cid=44472 Of course, should doesn't mean it is... Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 19:30:29 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:30:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1330655429.32131.YahooMailRC@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> as long as I can climb in and climb out of my car without cause... I'll be racing.... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "Reed, John" To: Bobby Whitehead ; Ed Diehl Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 1:01:49 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Re: [Fot] Nomination WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe itbs time I came out of retirement. John Reed Zippy Racing #69 BRG DP GT6+ On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: what's going on here??? are the THREE GT6's now registered for the Mitty out of >18 so far??? > >A BIG WHOPPING 'SECOND' on the nomination... > >Bobby Whitehead >#39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ > > > > >________________________________ >From: Ed Diehl >To: fot >Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 12:07:39 PM >Subject: [Fot] Nomination > >Hello, team. I would like to nominate a Triumph racer to this fine group of >Triumph nuts. He is Bill Newman who has been racing with the Central Florida >Region SCCA for some time. Bill raced a Spitfire for some time and has been >doing quite well in his Group 44 clone GT6 lately. Bill is a consistently >smooth and quick driver and would be a credit to our team. He is entered in >the Mitty with the Gt6 and looks forward to meeting other members there. >Currently , Triumphs owned: 1971 GT6 MKIII racecar, 1964 Spitfire racecar, >1976 Spitfire streetcar.Bill and his wife, Mary, make a great team. May we >have a second please. Bill can be reached at : William T. Newman >(mnewman at embarqmail.com) > >Cheers, > >Ed Diehl >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed at wilson.com > > > > John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 19:34:20 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:34:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: <1330655660.49710.YahooMailRC@web180818.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I went to the Mitty several years back for the 40th anniversary of Group 44 particularly just to see the Group 44 GT6... if I had a butt load of money I'd buy that car! Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "yellow04 at tr4racer.com" To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:18:09 PM Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty I also know Tim Suddard is planning on bringing the Group 44 GT6 that he just restored. I think the current plan is it will be a static display, as they are planning on selling the car at one of the big auctions this year. Sounds like we might just have one heck of a gaggle of GT6's down there. It would be great to see Zippy on track again, John! Scott Janzen, are you listening??? Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reed, John" > WOW! A GT6 shootout, maybe it's time I came out of retirement. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 1 19:37:16 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:37:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty In-Reply-To: References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> Message-ID: <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a roadster but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ The Pawn Star of CVAR ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:49:00 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:43:24 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:43:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EA5756B-E4AE-4834-9F9D-FFE18C0C3744@gmail.com> The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 1 20:08:33 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:08:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s In-Reply-To: <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Spitfires and GT6s: Right now it is the plan to have the publisher of your namesake magazine, SPITFIRES AND GT6s, at the MITTY to cover your antics off and on the track. Kas has already submitted a worthy article to them in recent days. We should get some nice coverage from them Jason, they may want to discuss your AMBRO-GT6 project. I wish Chuck Gee and Jerry Barker were coming, along with Steve Smith and Scott Janzen, but it's such a big country and we understand we cant have everything. RIP our old GT6 friend Ed Ceilley.....many would not know this but Dr. Ed Ceilley stitched son Sean up when he was about two years old. Sean is 48 now Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 8:41 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a roadster but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ The Pawn Star of CVAR ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:49:00 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. Hee Hee Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:43:24 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:43:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EA5756B-E4AE-4834-9F9D-FFE18C0C3744@gmail.com> The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 20:34:23 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:34:23 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red From chasgee at aol.com Thu Mar 1 21:01:15 2012 From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:01:15 -0800 Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s In-Reply-To: <8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local> <1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> I think Jerry Barker is coming with his national championship Spitfire he recently re-acquired. Chuck On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Spitfires and GT6s: > > Right now it is the plan to have the publisher of your namesake magazine, > SPITFIRES AND GT6s, at the MITTY to cover your antics off and on the track. > > Kas has already submitted a worthy article to them in recent days. We should > get some nice coverage from them > > Jason, they may want to discuss your AMBRO-GT6 project. > > I wish Chuck Gee and Jerry Barker were coming, along with Steve Smith and > Scott Janzen, but it's such a big country and we understand we cant have > everything. > > RIP our old GT6 friend Ed Ceilley.....many would not know this but Dr. Ed > Ceilley stitched son Sean up when he was about two years old. Sean is 48 now > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bobby Whitehead > To: Jason Ostrowski > Cc: FoT Triumph > Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 8:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty > > > okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, > > "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a > roadster > > but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 Puke Yellow DP GT-6+ > The Pawn Star of CVAR > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jason Ostrowski > To: yellow04 at tr4racer.com > Cc: Friends of Triumph > Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 2:49:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > "Scott Janzen, are you listening???" > > Yeah Henry, I'm sure he's listening. > Perhaps he's....CHICKEN. > > Hee Hee > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6+, bright yellow (not puke) #27 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee at aol.com From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Mar 1 21:58:56 2012 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:58:56 -0600 Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s In-Reply-To: <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local><1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> Message-ID: When I talked to him a couple of weeks ago, he was busy putting the car together. He told me he was hoping to make the K-Cup. Scott Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- From: chasgee at aol.com To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Mar 2, 2012 04:01:15 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s From harmug at us.ibm.com Fri Mar 2 07:16:25 2012 From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:16:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 64, Issue3 Car weight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lorne, D. Displaying Minimum Weight Except for classes in which there is only 1 required minimum weight (i.e., ASR, FB, FC, FE, FF, FM, FS, FST, FV, SM5, SRF), all cars shall display the correct minimum weight specified in the current GCR in a manner that is clearly legible to the scrutineers at the scales. Cars that are run in more than one class must display the correct minimum weight for each class so that it is clear which weight applies to each class. The size and location are pretty vague. I protested this when it was first proposed. I don't want to make more work for the scrutineers, but we do have computers and smart phones these days, the information is readily available. I don't want my 63 Spit to have the GVW listed on it like a bread delivery truck. mike Will be at the Mitty, numbers and all G. Michael Harmuth From BillDentin at aol.com Fri Mar 2 08:04:28 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:04:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] GT6's at the Mitty Message-ID: <56a8e.747b7e5a.3c823b7c@aol.com> In a message dated 03/01/2012 8:41:12 PM Central Standard Time, igofaster at att.net writes: > okay... FoT nirvana .... take it in,,,, take it in,,,,,, > > "GT6's at the Mitty" ... sorry... I'm smiling! Nothing wrong with a > roadster > but the coupe' has been overlooked for a long time! > The Poor Man's XKE. I wish to hell I fit in one. Bill (Damdinger) From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 2 14:04:33 2012 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 16:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Sebring Message-ID: <000601ccf8b8$125e90c0$371bb240$@sbcglobal.net> Amici, Anyone from this esteemed group going to Sebring? Either to race, spectate or vend? Ted? I can probably be found at the 3,4,5,6 complex again this year. Track side of the fence. Doug Detroit Region and MTM F&C -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel at sbcglobal.net From rikrock at live.com Fri Mar 2 15:29:27 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:29:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System -SCCA Message-ID: Here's what I got from SCCA so far. x-store-info: sbevkl2QZR7OXo7WID5ZcdV2tiiWGqTnu8ByXefjVR0sCetct54Iblo2yXWIlSUJwJ3KELJuvDiBOddosTxKsFIhVixr2IJkNifqoHlk94LSdr9giehnSQ== Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=fail (sender IP is 174.120.20.98) header.from=rmiles at scca.com; dkim=none header.d=scca.com; x-hmca=fail X-Message-Status: n:0:n X-SID-PRA: rmiles at scca.com X-SID-Result: Fail X-DKIM-Result: None X-AUTH-Result: FAIL X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MTtHRD0xO1NDTD0w X-Message-Info: NhFq/7gR1vTj2Z7xd9Dl7hxgAmJ2mWq2TMVhlUuFk4WrgwmibX0RypTzzg7duAfJBD2f08vATn7vCtQsuy3ny+FD95MhYOwTnyocOHn8BR8SEqkYiH4l8ZO3HxVOlCbP Received: from gator856.hostgator.com ([174.120.20.98]) by BAY0-MC4-F13.Bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900); Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:18:54 -0800 Received: from jbauer12 by gator856.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S3I57-0006Ih-Pa for rikrock at live.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:18:53 -0600 To: rikrock at live.com Subject: SCCA Letter #7312 Update X-PHP-Script: www.crbscca.com/committee/viewdetails.php for 97.112.211.223 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rmiles at scca.com X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: InterAKT tNG mailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:18:53 -0600 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator856.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - live.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [713 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gator856.hostgator.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php /home/jbauer12/public_html/committee/viewdetails.php X-Source-Dir: crbscca.com:/public_html/committee X-Source-Auth: jbauer12 X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: amJhdWVyMTI7amJhdWVyMTI7Z2F0b3I4NTYuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Return-Path: jbauer12 at gator856.hostgator.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2012 02:18:54.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0C21440:01CCF81A] rich rock, Your letter has been reviewed by the Prod committee, and a recommendation has been made to the CRB. The CRB will review your letter and the Prod committee's recommendation on their next conference call. Your letter details are below: Letter #7312 Title: vacuum system rule clarification/explanation request Request: I'm interested in knowing why the use of an engine vacuum system which connects to the exhaust system is prohibited   (page 100 GCR).  I've seen such systems in use on cars raced in other series.Thanks,Rich Rock BMR tech inspector Thank you, CRB From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 2 18:54:16 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:54:16 -0700 Subject: [Fot] List notes Message-ID: <4F5179C8.4070800@bradakis.com> Every now and again I get a message from Mordy which consists of little more than something forwarded from someone with a Team.Net issue. Mordy has nothing to do with it, folks. The person running Team.Net is me, mjb, mark at bradakis.com. Please don't bother Mordy with stuff not in his realm. I try to keep it all running as smoothly as possible, not drawing attention to the man behind the curtain. Usually it works, but sometimes things happen. Currently there are some issues with the new server regarding the forums, the archives and some web pages. I try to get things fixed when I can - remember I do have a real job and some bit of life outside of Team.Net. I better have everything up to snuff soon, the annual fund drive will be coming up and I want folks to be happy with the service! There was an unusual interruption last night. For various reasons my wife's Windows machine is over there on the floor and the new Team.Net server is up in the living room where she can make use of it temporarily while I work on getting things back in their proper places. So she's working on the computer last night, she basically just needs a simple web browser. She finishes up and then shuts off the machine. Yep, she just turns off Team.Net. Nice. Of course I always threaten to do that when something goes awry, have been for the last 20+ years, will probably continue to threaten. But I don't really mean it. I'll have her machine back in its proper place this weekend. If anyone is going to just shutdown Team.Net it better be me! mjb. From mediehljr at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 06:05:16 2012 From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 05:05:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Sebring In-Reply-To: <1330779526.6822.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000601ccf8b8$125e90c0$371bb240$@sbcglobal.net> <1330779526.6822.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1330779916.99106.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ed Diehl ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Ed Diehl To: Doug Mitchell Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Sebring I will be there as usual. I will be with SCCA race control. I usually can be found driving the worker Shuttle 1. Been at this for a lotta years. Look me up. Cheers, Ed. Ed Diehl ________________________________ From: Doug Mitchell To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 4:04 PM Subject: [Fot] Sebring Amici, Anyone from this esteemed group going to Sebring? Either to race, spectate or vend? Ted? I can probably be found at the 3,4,5,6 complex again this year. Track side of the fence. Doug Detroit Region and MTM F&C -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mediehljr at yahoo.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sat Mar 3 07:03:08 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:03:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Sebring References: <000601ccf8b8$125e90c0$371bb240$@sbcglobal.net> <1330779526.6822.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1330779916.99106.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ed, my friend Brian McKie, from Grand Island, NY, will be there with his MGB. #39, kind of greenish/gray. Nice looking car and a real decent guy. Look him up and he may give you a beer! PS, how's the "Better Diehl" doing? Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Diehl" To: "fot" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 8:05 AM Subject: [Fot] Fw: Sebring > > Ed Diehl > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Ed Diehl > > To: Doug Mitchell > Sent: > Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Sebring > > > I will be there > as usual. I will be with SCCA race control. I usually can be found driving > the > worker Shuttle 1. Been at this for a lotta years. Look me up. Cheers, Ed. > > > Ed Diehl > > > ________________________________ > From: Doug Mitchell > > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 > 4:04 PM > Subject: [Fot] Sebring > > Amici, > > Anyone from this esteemed group going > to Sebring? Either to race, spectate > or vend? Ted? > > I can probably be found at > the 3,4,5,6 complex again this year. Track side > of the fence. > > Doug > Detroit > Region and MTM F&C > > -- > Doug Mitchell > dmitchel at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mediehljr at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 07:27:48 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:27:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LAST CALL FOR MITTY SHIRTS Message-ID: I am submitting the shirt order next Sunday March 11th so you have until next Saturday to get your Kastner Cup or FOT shirt orders in to me. If you have a shirt on order currently you would have received an acknowledgement email from me. If you are not sure feel free to drop me a line and I will check. Kastner Cup drivers names on the shirt. We need to finalize this by next saturday also. All the names that are currently going on the shirt are listed on the FOT-racing.com web site http://www.fot-racing.com/feature/2012mitty/participants.htm . Thanks Henry. If you are planning on racing and your name is not on the list let me know. If your name is on the list and you know you will not be attending also let me know so we can make the text bigger for those attending. Right now it looks like we will be making around 180 total shirts. The Kastner Cup shirts should be a pretty neat souvenir for this fantastic event. Marty From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Sun Mar 4 10:49:44 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 11:49:44 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> Here is a link to one of the group 4 races. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvDLoYZpko&feature=g-upl&context=G2465543AUA AAAAAAAAA Enjoy, I surely did. BTW... I spoke to the Vete driver after the race about the yellow colored thing waiving in turns 1-2 and 3. I also laughed with Duncan that my little hand wave reminded him not to pass under yellow. Great weekend all in all just missing Red No. 14. See yall at the Mitty. Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:34 PM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 The view from the 1952 Morgan driver's seat (running in Group 4, the "preservation" class) was usually filled with a black '58 Corvette or Greg Blake's silver TR3, although there was the occasional Allard or open-wheeled FJr to contend with. New tires... sheesh -- my qualifying lap was 3 seconds better than my fastest lap in November on the same 2.9 mile TWS circuit, and my fastest lap for the weekend was another two seconds faster yet. That meant the Healeys were no longer ahead of me all of the time. The car now has competition stub axles but I'm keeping the front drum brakes in place for now, and they don't seem to be a disadvantage on this particular track, where I don't actually use them all that much. Since the FJr guys wanted to have school during race 3, they accepted the back of the grid, as did the Corvette, so Greg and I started alongside each other in the front row. Nice to be able to select the gear and rpm that suits me best at the rolling start. I managed to get into an abrupt spin at Turn 3. My GoPro video shows that I'd blipped the throttle while downshifting out of fourth gear just before things broke loose. I turned into it and released the brakes but the end-swap happened too suddenly to catch and the car went off the track backwards. No harm was detected and only the Empi Crusader got by on that lap. Although I had pushed in the clutch to avoid stalling, the engine was off when I rolled to a stop. Curious. The Morgan seemed to run without fault until the second to last lap of the final race on Sunday when I couldn't get it out of fourth gear. I have the gearbox cover off now and it's clear that the problem is not in the shift lever mechanism. There is something down inside the ancient Moss gearbox making graunching/scraping noises when I turn the driveshaft while holding the clutch down, and there is intermittent gravelly resistance to rotation. I am now wondering if the spin and engine stall relate to the onset of the gearbox problem. I had initially attributed the spin to brake imbalance (thinking the rears locked while downshifting) but the reason for the engine stall wasn't obvious. All will come clear in a few days. Others had mechanical problems, although most of them didn't cause offs -- a Lotus FJr lost a steering rod at Turn 3 but went straight off the track without incident, and a Healey 100-4 suffered a mysterious sudden engine stoppage, exiting the inside of turn 2. The best part for me, other than improved lap times, was getting to remove the big X from the back of the car. I'll post video highlights (including a tour of the track) to YouTube when my Internet signal improves. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2 at austin.rr.com From cofrog at q.com Sun Mar 4 11:24:26 2012 From: cofrog at q.com (cofrog at q.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:24:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Gearbox Number In-Reply-To: <130172256.210345.1330885386173.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Does anyone know if a TR4 gearbox with the number 304692SM on the right side of the casing is out of a TR4 or TR4A? Thanks, Dan From TR3driver at ca.rr.com Sun Mar 4 12:03:14 2012 From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 11:03:14 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Gearbox Number In-Reply-To: <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> References: <130172256.210345.1330885386173.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <06a701ccfa39$73ef1530$0301a8c0@randall> > Does anyone know if a TR4 gearbox with the number 304692SM on > the right side of the casing is out of a TR4 or TR4A? What difference does it make? That is a casting number, and AFAIK the castings were the same between 4 and 4A. You need to look for the serial number, which I think should be on the LH side, on the boss for the clutch shaft and start with the letters CT. -- Randall From cofrog at q.com Sun Mar 4 12:34:50 2012 From: cofrog at q.com (cofrog at q.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 14:34:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] [TR] Gearbox Number Correction In-Reply-To: <663775353.210367.1330885466960.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <149303509.211872.1330889690801.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Oops. I gave a casting number. The serial number is ct19808. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: cofrog at q.com To: "triumph" , "triumph fot" Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:24:26 AM Subject: [TR] Gearbox Number Does anyone know if a TR4 gearbox with the number 304692SM on the right side of the casing is out of a TR4 or TR4A? Thanks, Dan ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cofrog at q.com From sm1ski at dslextreme.com Sat Mar 3 11:12:54 2012 From: sm1ski at dslextreme.com (michael a kowalski) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:12:54 -0700 Subject: [Fot] ATTENTION SPITFIRES AND GT6s References: <80846A3267704564A816D3CA3E82051C@TRIUMPH.local><1330655836.58187.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8CEC638E2F7F45B-1280-1588E@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> <90EB591F-9C83-4BEF-AA2B-3E4154CCC2F6@aol.com> Message-ID: <235E71D5CBBB43A494E2A028C92DDE00@sarako> FOT List: May I pose a question to those who know: I have never been concerned with serial numbers and sources for my Spit racecar; consequently, I have not kept up with how to document dates and details of Triumph production. However, my partner in my spitfire is restoring a TR3 and posed a lineage question about his car. Would you direct me to sources of the designations that have been found (the Moss catalogue has given us some information)? 1) Engine Number: TSF 303F 2) Transmission Number: TSF 375 3) An impression on the bottom of the passenger floorboard of the body shows a "logo" that looks like a wheeled vehicle carrying a winged "unicorn(????);" underneath that is a word, "Welsh_R?????." In a section beneath that, it looks like the date," 31___12___61(a manufacturering date of December 31st, 1961???) and a number 55090(the vehicle number of manufacture?). Any guidence in approaching the origin of these these numbers would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. mike kowalski, 1500 FP Spit From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 4 14:21:27 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:21:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] All-Triumph race at Willow Springs March 31 Message-ID: <12285961.1330896087970.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Friends, As part of VARA's "High Desert Challenge" race weekend March 31-Apr 1, there will be an all-Triumph race in addition to the regular run-groups and 2-hour enduro. Just thought I'd put the word out in case some of you guys. I signed up for the enduro and will spend most of Saturday, March 31, racing around WSR! Alert the clubs, there will be a Triumph Corral for the street car folks. ~Steve From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 4 18:20:22 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 18:20:22 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Message-ID: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 10:47:41 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:47:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. Mike From: Mark J Bradakis To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 11:06:06 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:06:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CEC911C55561C1-1DC4-4471@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> CHECK: themitty.com has the host hotel by CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS. it is the Holiday Inn Express that Mike mentions. i understand that there is a large selection, but dont have a list. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Munson To: Mark J Bradakis ; FOT Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 11:52 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. Mike From: Mark J Bradakis To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 11:24:36 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 12:24:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <8CEC911C55561C1-1DC4-4471@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CEC911C55561C1-1DC4-4471@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <793D2D2D-F071-488F-BC7F-EA14A34D6BE0@yahoo.com> There are others in the area, the ones I mentioned were the only ones I could recommend. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > CHECK: themitty.com has the host hotel by CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS. > > it is the Holiday Inn Express that Mike mentions. > > i understand that there is a large selection, but dont have a list. > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Munson > To: Mark J Bradakis ; FOT > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 11:52 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu > Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new > Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia > exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. > > Mike > From: Mark J > Bradakis > To: Friends of Triumph > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > What are > some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From cofrog at q.com Mon Mar 5 11:29:51 2012 From: cofrog at q.com (cofrog at q.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:29:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Gearbox Number Followup In-Reply-To: <734527664.240334.1330972155519.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <141375994.240367.1330972191772.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Thanks to all who responded. I figured it was an early TR4 gearbox but was confused as it had a short cover for the later clutch. Dan From BillDentin at aol.com Mon Mar 5 11:36:11 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:36:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Message-ID: <61ebb.83403bb.3c86619b@aol.com> Amici... While we have no first hand past experience for racing at Road Atlanta, Bob Wismer and I have made reservations at the Comfort Inn & Suites Near Lake Lanier. We understand it is about 18-20 minutes from the track. Bill Dentinger From rjohns at woh.rr.com Mon Mar 5 12:00:41 2012 From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:00:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Hotels Message-ID: <2E7B8E12070642299AEA9FD25ADFA506@Bucktailus> I ended up reserving through Travelocity in Gainesville at the Hilton Garden Inn. Bob Johns From jhhasty at gdhs.com Mon Mar 5 13:25:34 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <1330969661.32253.YahooMailNeo@web46115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1DC97B04934C4D5E89EF6787A2F0F382@gdhs.local> The H. I. Ex. Is full.....next exit south had a number of motels.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. 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On I-85 exit (hwy211) before the Road Atlanta exit (Hwy 53) there is Chateu Elan that has very nice rooms. Across from that hwy211 there is a fairly new Holiday Inn Express. There are probably some hotels at the Mall Of Georgia exit (hwy 20) but I don't know anything about those. Mike From: Mark J Bradakis To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? What are some recommended places to stay in the area? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Mon Mar 5 17:36:34 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:36:34 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> Can you camp out at the track? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 17:54:56 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:54:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> Message-ID: <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our trips to the track. we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i have not checked. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: william r tobin To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Can you camp out at the track? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jason at multivintage.com Mon Mar 5 18:37:50 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:37:50 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 5 19:01:01 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 18:01:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1330999261.25834.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I sent my Mitty Registration in today - Joan and I will stay at the track. I like waking up to the sound of a race engine, and the smell of napalm. Dennis The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 19:05:26 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:05:26 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <607F0B16-3B06-47B6-BD02-FB3F0AF254D4@yahoo.com> That bringing in alcohol rule gets abused frequently! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. > But have never been there before. > The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires > and bringing in alcohol. > Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. > How does the beer thing work? > can this be true? > Please advise. > > Jason FGR. > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our >> trips >> to the track. >> >> we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i >> have not checked. >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: william r tobin >> To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph >> >> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >> Can you camp out at the track? >> Thanks, Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark J Bradakis" >> To: "Friends of Triumph" >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >>> What are some recommended places to stay in the area? >>> >>> mjb. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Mon Mar 5 19:11:31 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:11:31 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001101ccfb3e$74c407d0$5e4c1770$@rr.com> In my limited racing experience, the bench racing that occurs after dark at the track is most enjoyable. I had planned on camping with all the FOT folks that I have not had the pleasure of meeting. Glad to hear there are at least of few of you guys planning to rough it at the track. All of us TxFOT folks plan on camping as well. There might even be some beer hidden in the back of the suburban...or Bobby's blacked-out windowless shag-carpeted van. Speaking of staying at the track, will one of you more local guys have a grill at the track? I'd hate to drag my full size set-up all the way from Austin. Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:38 PM To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2 at austin.rr.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 19:18:57 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:18:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <001101ccfb3e$74c407d0$5e4c1770$@rr.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <001101ccfb3e$74c407d0$5e4c1770$@rr.com> Message-ID: <8CEC9569F0032D0-AC0-6FC3@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> wandering around the paddock in morning with a fresh cup of my own coffee is a very good experience Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Greg & Alison Blake To: 'Jason Ostrowski' ; 'Joe Alexander' Cc: FOT Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 8:11 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In my limited racing experience, the bench racing that occurs after dark at the track is most enjoyable. I had planned on camping with all the FOT folks that I have not had the pleasure of meeting. Glad to hear there are at least of few of you guys planning to rough it at the track. All of us TxFOT folks plan on camping as well. There might even be some beer hidden in the back of the suburban...or Bobby's blacked-out windowless shag-carpeted van. Speaking of staying at the track, will one of you more local guys have a grill at the track? I'd hate to drag my full size set-up all the way from Austin. Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:38 PM To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2 at austin.rr.com From Gt6steve at aol.com Sun Mar 4 14:29:39 2012 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 16:29:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] All-Triumph race at Willow Springs March 31 Message-ID: <1a098.3de6eb1d.3c8538c3@aol.com> That's pretty cool! I'd hoped to be there, now there's an extra incentive;-)) In a message dated 3/4/2012 1:27:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, colordog.1 at earthlink.net writes: Friends, As part of VARA's "High Desert Challenge" race weekend March 31-Apr 1, there will be an all-Triumph race in addition to the regular run-groups and 2-hour enduro. Just thought I'd put the word out in case some of you guys. I signed up for the enduro and will spend most of Saturday, March 31, racing around WSR! Alert the clubs, there will be a Triumph Corral for the street car folks. ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve at aol.com From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 6 08:17:39 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:17:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got the twin size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV loaded up with my Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my stealth guitar for howling at the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 to play $4 to shut the fudge up.... usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... Bobby Whitehead #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: william.tobin31 at verizon.net; mark at bradakis.com; FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 6:54:56 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our trips to the track. we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i have not checked. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: william r tobin To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Can you camp out at the track? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 6 08:19:14 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:19:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1331047154.27501.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> uh... BEER what? Hey I've hung with the 6pack crew there before as a spectator... the contact high was close to being inebriated ... Bobby ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 7:37:50 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From jkhagen at charter.net Tue Mar 6 09:38:38 2012 From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:38:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Message-ID: <202cf4b2.3bccdd.135e8e073e7.Webtop.49@charter.net> How special! On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > uh... BEER what? Hey I've hung with the 6pack crew there before as > a spectator... the contact high was close to being inebriated ... > > Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jason Ostrowski > To: Joe Alexander > Cc: FOT at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 7:37:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as > well. > But have never been there before. > The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against > Campfires > and bringing in alcohol. > Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. > How does the beer thing work? > can this be true? > Please advise. > > Jason FGR. > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on >> our >> trips >> to the track. >> >> we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, >> but i >> have not checked. >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: william r tobin >> To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph >> >> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >> Can you camp out at the track? >> Thanks, Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark J Bradakis" >> To: "Friends of Triumph" >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? >> >> >>> What are some recommended places to stay in the area? >>> >>> mjb. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net From triosan at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 09:49:36 2012 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:49:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Anybody know if there are showers? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got the > twin > size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV loaded up with my > Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my stealth guitar for howling > at > the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 to play $4 to shut the fudge up.... > usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: william.tobin31 at verizon.net; mark at bradakis.com; FOT at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 6:54:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our trips > to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, but i > have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan at gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Mar 6 10:10:12 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:10:12 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com> <2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f> <8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There is a nice bathroom with a few showers in the main paddock area, close to the tower. Tony At 10:49 AM 3/6/2012, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: >Anybody know if there are showers? From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 6 10:19:52 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:19:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Rd. Atl. Message-ID: <7F4F710F61CD4185AC2DB4AB79AC3180@gdhs.local> Don't know why, but every time I reply to questions about the track my response gets bounced because "it is too large" so I'll try a fresh string....there are showers in the original paddock on northeast side of front straight....don't know about the other paddock on southwest side, but I can't recall seeing any over there where I understand we are to be located. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. From triosan at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 12:26:24 2012 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:26:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Showers at the Mitty Message-ID: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley 11:24 AM (0 minutes ago) to Joe, Friends Careful Joe, I might run you out of water! Am coming in on Thursday evening, do you think I will be able to get into the campsite at about 8PM? Really look forward to this event, wish like hell I was racing! did my first track day of the year Saturday, but electrical gremlins kept me from getting very much time in. We have a new track just opening, my first time there is in two weeks, so hope to have all sorted by then. For any of you who care to look at the site it is called Ridge Motorsports Park. Runs up and down a ridge and has a somewhat Laguna like corkscrew going down. Here is a link: The *Ridge* Motorsports Park www.* ridge*motorsportspark.com/ -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Tue Mar 6 17:12:14 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 16:12:14 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] GT6 racer nor-cal on Craigslist Message-ID: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> http://bringatrailer.com/2012/03/06/1967-triumph-gt6-vintage-racer/ From dkettler1 at charter.net Tue Mar 6 19:08:56 2012 From: dkettler1 at charter.net (David Kettler) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:08:56 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Showers at the Mitty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chuck/Kathleen: Thanks for sharing this. Looks like a nice facility in a great area. I was surprised at not seeing guardrail or concrete barriers. Looks like some trees are in the runoff areas?? Dave Kettler -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 1:26 PM To: Joe Alexander ; Friends Subject: [Fot] Showers at the Mitty Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley 11:24 AM (0 minutes ago) to Joe, Friends Careful Joe, I might run you out of water! Am coming in on Thursday evening, do you think I will be able to get into the campsite at about 8PM? Really look forward to this event, wish like hell I was racing! did my first track day of the year Saturday, but electrical gremlins kept me from getting very much time in. We have a new track just opening, my first time there is in two weeks, so hope to have all sorted by then. For any of you who care to look at the site it is called Ridge Motorsports Park. Runs up and down a ridge and has a somewhat Laguna like corkscrew going down. Here is a link: The *Ridge* Motorsports Park www.* ridge*motorsportspark.com/ -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1 at charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4853 - Release Date: 03/05/12 From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Tue Mar 6 19:21:13 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 21:21:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6 racer nor-cal on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <119DC7E4-671F-4E4A-BCC4-435B7CBD4A6F@aol.com> Makes me wish I kept the gt6+ ex racer I saved from the scrap yard. I really wish I kept it. On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:12 PM, steve wrote: > http://bringatrailer.com/2012/03/06/1967-triumph-gt6-vintage-racer/ > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com From mark at bradakis.com Tue Mar 6 19:40:27 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:40:27 -0700 Subject: [Fot] GT6 racer nor-cal on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <119DC7E4-671F-4E4A-BCC4-435B7CBD4A6F@aol.com> References: <12754709.1331079134682.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <119DC7E4-671F-4E4A-BCC4-435B7CBD4A6F@aol.com> Message-ID: <4F56CA9B.2030600@bradakis.com> Looks nice, too bad it is about $12,994.32 more than I can afford right now. Of course, having a small, enclosed car like that might be a good way to motivate me to do something about my ever expanding waistline... mjb. From 4everglades at comcast.net Tue Mar 6 19:52:07 2012 From: 4everglades at comcast.net (4everglades at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 02:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheel Needed Message-ID: <633049220.2177406.1331088727922.JavaMail.root@sz0065a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I sat down to post an inquiry to see if anyone had a 13" x 6" Cosmic wheel to replace one of my set that was damaged in an accident with my Spitfire,and there was the post about the Craigs List GT- 6 with a complete set. I can't part with 12K so can anyone help me out with a single wheel or possible source. From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 6 09:15:02 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:15:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com><2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f><8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3D7E6FD963DF4E56B81302D4F46215E9@gdhs.local> Never had any problem with coolers and beer....I don't make fires on paved pit and paddock, but have seen charcoal grills etc. with no problems......don't know about the grass areas of the infield.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 8:38 PM To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? The Friendly Ghost Racing Crew will be camping out at the track as well. But have never been there before. The Road Atlanta website seems to state prohibitive rules against Campfires and bringing in alcohol. Those are 2 things that fuel the FGR experience. How does the beer thing work? can this be true? Please advise. Jason FGR. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, > but i have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.ne > > t > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 6 10:07:07 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:07:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? In-Reply-To: References: <4F5414D6.2010605@bradakis.com><2159D308246A4EEEBC87E548448D99EC@owner8914bbf7f><8CEC94AE1CE8C71-AC0-6812@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><1331047059.43902.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes in the original paddock area.....not sure about the pro paddock across the track where I understand they plan to put all of us TR folks. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:50 AM To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? Anybody know if there are showers? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got > the twin size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV > loaded up with my Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my > stealth guitar for howling at the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 > to play $4 to shut the fudge up.... > usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: william.tobin31 at verizon.net; mark at bradakis.com; FOT at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 6:54:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > absolutely! we have stayed in the paddock and also next to CMS on our > trips to the track. > > we will be in the paddock again....i dont remember any camping fees, > but i have not checked. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: william r tobin > To: Mark J Bradakis ; Friends of Triumph > > Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > Can you camp out at the track? > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] Mitty hotels? > > > > What are some recommended places to stay in the area? > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.ne > > t > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan at gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 07:34:59 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:34:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, From rikrock at live.com Wed Mar 7 08:25:14 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:25:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Vacuum System SCCA Message-ID: Just got this: x-store-info: sbevkl2QZR7OXo7WID5ZcdV2tiiWGqTnjvpvcDb633lOmLaZ5hEL/B8t2WYWD3ZHLv7yzJUMP7z3aqhQNe8w1ndGgyzvY6mgqXUYWxoPNWOxKYGdWztn5g== Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=fail (sender IP is 174.120.20.98) header.from=rmiles at scca.com; dkim=none header.d=scca.com; x-hmca=fail X-Message-Status: n:0:n X-SID-PRA: rmiles at scca.com X-SID-Result: Fail X-DKIM-Result: None X-AUTH-Result: FAIL X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MTtHRD0xO1NDTD0w X-Message-Info: NhFq/7gR1vTofWazeETSNzxNq1zItAR1UXAAc4Gt9cval14sKyYXM9GnyCWxQQf4BFo8Q89wecf2/V/6nFkB3PC1V7AweE85M9lRtXDoUlgHyxO6SkWFM9tf5df/hpD5 Received: from gator856.hostgator.com ([174.120.20.98]) by COL0-MC1-F32.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900); Wed, 7 Mar 2012 07:06:48 -0800 Received: from jbauer12 by gator856.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S5IS0-0004BJ-G4 for rikrock at live.com; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:06:48 -0600 To: rikrock at live.com Subject: SCCA CRB Letter #7312 Update X-PHP-Script: www.crbscca.com/boards/view details/index.php for 69.140.164.28 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rmiles at scca.com X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: InterAKT tNG mailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:06:48 -0600 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator856.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - live.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [713 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gator856.hostgator.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php /home/jbauer12/public_html/boards/view details/index.php X-Source-Dir: crbscca.com:/public_html/boards/view details X-Source-Auth: jbauer12 X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: amJhdWVyMTI7amJhdWVyMTI7Z2F0b3I4NTYuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Return-Path: jbauer12 at gator856.hostgator.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2012 15:06:48.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB734360:01CCFC73] rich rock, Your letter has been reviewed by the Club Racing Board. The response will be in an upcoming Fastrack. Your letter details are below: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Letter #7312 Title: vacuum system rule clarification/explanation request Request: I'm interested in knowing why the use of an engine vacuum system which connects to the exhaust system is prohibited   (page 100 GCR).  I've seen such systems in use on cars raced in other series.Thanks,Rich Rock BMR tech inspector ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Club Racing Board From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Mar 7 08:27:22 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 07:27:22 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheel Needed References: <633049220.2177406.1331088727922.JavaMail.root@sz0065a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <401166F7A1D34FAD8E3C33911D5906ED@Charly> http://www.cosmic-wheels.com/page.php?4 Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: <4everglades at comcast.net> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:52 PM Subject: [Fot] Cosmic Wheel Needed >I sat down to post an inquiry to see if anyone had a 13" x 6" Cosmic wheel >to replace one of my set that was damaged in an accident with my >Spitfire,and there was the post about the Craigs List GT- 6 with a complete >set. I can't part with 12K so can anyone help me out with a single wheel or >possible source. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Mar 7 08:55:25 2012 From: gasket.works at gte.net (gasket.works at gte.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:55:25 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> Why in the world would anyone want to use these? Mind you Mr. Pauter has nice products (I have a set of Pauter TR6 rods). But frankly, rods like this have absolutely no value. From all the negative feedback I have had in the past 1o+ years it seems like a waste of time and effort. Besides, it is a pain to figure out TDC. The math would say that the derivative of acceleration (jerk) is reduced at TDC and BDC and the wasted lateral side wall thrust is reduced leading to less internal piston wall heat production. Although the mid position piston speed remains unchanged. Go figure... Btw... These are short rods compared To others I know. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:34:59 To: Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net From jhhasty at gdhs.com Wed Mar 7 09:03:49 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:03:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Joe: Am sending you pictures of the 7" SCAT small block Chevy rods and JE pistions we are using. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From rikrock at live.com Wed Mar 7 09:10:41 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:10:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Vacuum System SCCA In-Reply-To: <8CECA9114792BA3-20A0-1E16@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> References: , <8CECA9114792BA3-20A0-1E16@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It's all the way down at the bottom of all that junk (which wasn't part of the email I got from SCCA) But if you can't find it, what the email said was that the CRB had reviewed the issue and that a response will be printed in an upcoming Fasttrack. (that's the SCCA rules newsletter) Rich Rock To: rikrock at live.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Vacuum System SCCA From: n197tr4 at cs.com Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:49:56 -0500 no text on the subject sent.... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Mar 7 09:21:29 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:21:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> <8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> <2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Mordy, For the benefit of the unwashed, were the "negative comments" you refer to related to Pauter rods or to 7 inch rods (in general)? I tend towards the comment referring to the rodd length, but I just wanted to be sure. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 09:24:25 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:24:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: References: <8CEC94A17035F1C-AC0-6776@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com><8CEC9CC341F746C-1794-97E2@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA175544D10A-1794-D706@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com><8CECA869BCD2268-20A0-1315@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com><2020860752-1331135724-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-729794473-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <8CECA95E541BE68-20A0-22F5@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> the length of the rod is the issue Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: gasket.works Cc: FOT Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:21 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Mordy, For the benefit of the unwashed, were the "negative comments" you refer to related to Pauter rods or to 7 inch rods (in general)? I tend towards the comment referring to the rodd length, but I just wanted to be sure. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Mar 7 09:31:07 2012 From: gasket.works at gte.net (gasket.works at gte.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:31:07 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Message-ID: <691577155-1331137866-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-716811067-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry> To be clear... I have a very nice set of MR. Pauters rods (TR6). Well made and functional. Not one complaint. I have different Rods for Tr4. M ------Original Message------ From: Robert M. Lang To: Gasket works Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Sent: Mar 7, 2012 8:21 AM Mordy, For the benefit of the unwashed, were the "negative comments" you refer to related to Pauter rods or to 7 inch rods (in general)? I tend towards the comment referring to the rodd length, but I just wanted to be sure. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 7 09:48:44 2012 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:48:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Message-ID: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> The stock compression height is 2.0. There is room for the 7 inch rod, it will be right at the bottom of the oil ring groove, with a thin ring pack. The rod/stroke ratio isn't that bad on these engines but generally anything that reduces loads is a good thing... Glen -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42 am Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com From riverside at southslope.net Wed Mar 7 12:39:38 2012 From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:39:38 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? In-Reply-To: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <74F4BF80897E44F4B83232C493D656D3@rileyPC> Added dwell at TDC more than offsets the reduced dwell at BDC. Long rods also work on the crank at a better angle awhile after TDC. Smokey's rule was to cram in the longest rod possible. If someone has a contrary idea on the rod length issue, I would love to get clued in to it. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 10:48 AM To: n197tr4 at cs.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? The stock compression height is 2.0. There is room for the 7 inch rod, it will be right at the bottom of the oil ring groove, with a thin ring pack. The rod/stroke ratio isn't that bad on these engines but generally anything that reduces loads is a good thing... Glen -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42 am Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. TIA. -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find any specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact area. What do you think? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: John, _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside at southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4855 - Release Date: 03/06/12 From barry at penybryn.ca Wed Mar 7 13:40:49 2012 From: barry at penybryn.ca (Barry Munson) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:40:49 -0700 Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks Message-ID: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> Amici - Has anyone had any experience these adjustable lever shocks? Thanks. Barry. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:21 PM To: barry at penybryn.ca Subject: Triump Lever shocks Barry, I attached a picture of the shocks. Only the knob on the valve has changed. Peter Thank you for asking about our adjustable Armstrong shocks. Having been in the remanufacturing business of Armstrong lever shocks for many, many years, we have had the opportunity to rebuild a few of the original Armstrong "Adjustable 22" externally adjustable shocks. You can find examples of these in some of the original special tuning parts manuals. Armstrong had different castings made for some of these models, but did not make them available for all of their various models of shocks. Because the body is somewhat larger and had a large adjusting knob, not all cars could be fitted with the "Adjustable 22" units. We have been able to use their same principles and apply them to a wider variety of lever shocks by employing an external and remotely mountable valve alleviating the need for new castings and fitment constraints.. The way the Adjustable 22's and our shocks work is by utilizing an extremely stiff modified main original "co-axial" valve assembly in the usual position, and providing a bypass circuit with a variable needle valve that allows adjustment of the volume of oil that passes through the co-axial main valve. (The "22" meant that Armstrong had 22 steps of adjustment.) Our valve is variable without steps, and can allow the shock to be locked solid without moving, to full, undampened movement. By machining the co-axial valve and replacing the springs with our custom made ones we succeed in providing a damping rate equivalent to full competition at 1-1/2 turns open of a potential 5 turns. The valve is of brass body full flow stainless steel needle construction. Connections between shock and valve are similar to brake hydraulic equipment. We've been able to test fit these on all of the models we offer to ensure accessibility and roadworthiness. Historically, shocks become less effective as the oil heats. Our experience has been at about 20 - 25 minutes of track work, the shocks lose their dampening. After several attempts, we are now using Redline's suspension oils, and have been very pleased with the performance, especially in this application. The modifications of the adjustable shocks are performed on our highly regarded remanufactured units. We install sleeve bearings in the bodies, install stainless shaft sleeves, and install radial lip oil seals. Pistons and bodies are selected for their proven reliability using the best combinations. Each order is custom made so that we can consider your intended use, as well as any additional equipment you may have that would affect the mounting of the valve. We also like to know if the ride height is significantly changed as we can ensure the pistons are working in their mid-range most of the time. Pricing Rears are $149.00 each Usual core charge deposits of $30.00 apply. Please let me know if you have any questions. We are always open to suggestions. Thanks again. Peter Caldwell Peter Caldwell World Wide Auto Parts of Madison 2517 Seiferth Rd. Madison WI USA 53716-3302 US WATS (800) 362-1025 (608) 223-9400 (608) 223-9403 fax www.worldwideimportautoparts.com www.nosimport.com From igofaster at att.net Wed Mar 7 14:44:18 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:44:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] $4.00 fee In-Reply-To: <3f3ca.21fc42e1.3c87867b@cs.com> References: <3f3ca.21fc42e1.3c87867b@cs.com> Message-ID: <1331156658.40893.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> well... I guess the malcontents have been sufficiently warned... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "N197TR4 at cs.com" To: igofaster at att.net Sent: Tue, March 6, 2012 9:25:47 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Mitty hotels? This information should be posted on the FOT website as a warning. > yeah... I was hoping I could camp put in my trailer too.... I've got the > twin size (real not blow up ) mattress and my flat screen TV loaded up with > my Deadwood DVD collection,,,, plus I'll bring my stealth guitar for > howling at the moon... no extra charge.... it's $3 to play $4 to shut the fudge > > up.... usually get the $4 fee at most of my engagements... > > Bobby Whitehead > #39 DP Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ > > From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 15:57:48 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:57:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP NEWS JERRY BARKER Message-ID: <8CECACCDA10FF3E-24B4-5BAB@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> If you were at Laguna Seca, you saw a dramatic drive to the finish line by Jerry Barker and his Herald. Jerry Called today and announced his plan to be at the MITTY.....with his SPITFIRE 1500. The same Spitfire he won the SCCA RUNOFFS IN 1980. That's HISTORY. He is also bringing the KASTNER CUP with him, as he was the recipient last year. I love it when a plan comes together. Marty, you can add Jerry's name to the shirt. He has his entry in. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Mar 7 16:12:30 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:12:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> Message-ID: I had looked at them once and it seemed they had a tube or something that was remotely controlled. I think I decided to not get them because it was going to cost close to $200 each by the time I got them in my hand. Maybe I should look at them again. Who's first you or me? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Munson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks > Amici - Has anyone had any experience these adjustable lever shocks? > Thanks. > Barry. > > To: barry at penybryn.ca > Subject: Triump Lever shocks > > Barry, > I attached a picture of the shocks. Only the knob on the > valve has changed. Peter > > Thank you for asking about our adjustable Armstrong shocks. > > Having been in the remanufacturing business of Armstrong lever > shocks for many, many years, we have had the opportunity to rebuild a few > of > the original Armstrong "Adjustable 22" externally adjustable shocks. You > can > find examples of these in some of the original special tuning parts > manuals. > Armstrong had different castings made for some of these models, but did > not > make them available for all of their various models of shocks. Because the > body is somewhat larger and had a large adjusting knob, not all cars could > be fitted with the "Adjustable 22" units. > > We have been able to use their same principles and apply them to a > wider variety of lever shocks by employing an external and remotely > mountable valve alleviating the need for new castings and fitment > constraints.. The way the Adjustable 22's and our shocks work is by > utilizing an extremely stiff modified main original "co-axial" > valve assembly in the usual position, and providing a bypass circuit with > a > variable needle valve that allows adjustment of the volume of oil that > passes through the co-axial main valve. (The "22" meant that Armstrong had > 22 steps of adjustment.) Our valve is variable without steps, and can > allow > the shock to be locked solid without moving, to full, undampened movement. > By machining the co-axial valve and replacing the springs with our custom > made ones we succeed in providing a damping rate equivalent to full > competition at 1-1/2 turns open of a potential 5 turns. > > The valve is of brass body full flow stainless steel needle > construction. Connections between shock and valve are similar to brake > hydraulic equipment. We've been able to test fit these on all of the > models > we offer to ensure accessibility and roadworthiness. > > Historically, shocks become less effective as the oil heats. > Our experience has been at about 20 - 25 minutes of track work, the shocks > lose their dampening. After several attempts, we are now using Redline's > suspension oils, and have been very pleased with the performance, > especially > in this application. > > The modifications of the adjustable shocks are performed on our > highly regarded remanufactured units. We install sleeve bearings in the > bodies, install stainless shaft sleeves, and install radial lip oil seals. > Pistons and bodies are selected for their proven reliability using the > best > combinations. > > Each order is custom made so that we can consider your intended > use, as well as any additional equipment you may have that would affect > the > mounting of the valve. We also like to know if the ride height is > significantly changed as we can ensure the pistons are working in their > mid-range most of the time. > > Pricing > > Rears are $149.00 each > > Usual core charge deposits of $30.00 apply. > > Please let me know if you have any questions. We are always open > to > suggestions. > > Thanks again. > Peter Caldwell From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 16:31:37 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 18:31:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks In-Reply-To: References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> Message-ID: <8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> uncle jack had them....he seemed ok with them. Tony might be able to add more insight. while not strictly legal, i know, we ended up with RATCOs Tube shock conversion and are very happy with it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Charly Mitchel To: Barry Munson ; fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks I had looked at them once and it seemed they had a tube or something that was remotely controlled. I think I decided to not get them because it was going to cost close to $200 each by the time I got them in my hand. Maybe I should look at them again. Who's first you or me? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 From gasket.works at gte.net Thu Mar 8 07:58:17 2012 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 06:58:17 -0800 Subject: [Fot] 7" RODS? In-Reply-To: <74F4BF80897E44F4B83232C493D656D3@rileyPC> References: <8CECA994B34312B-2914-1C51@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com> <74F4BF80897E44F4B83232C493D656D3@rileyPC> Message-ID: <68E14A1F-AF72-4E76-88FC-6897CDCBF75C@gte.net> To give an idea of the magnitude of the long rod piston dwell near tdc.... I have heard that the 8 degrees crank angle btdc and 8 deg Atdc the piston moves perhaps a few thousands. Rumor has it That the piston travels so little -one may think the crankshaft and piston are not really connected @ that sweet spot. On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:39 AM, wrote: > Added dwell at TDC more than offsets the reduced dwell at BDC. > Long rods also work on the crank at a better angle awhile after TDC. > > Smokey's rule was to cram in the longest rod possible. If someone > has a contrary idea on the rod length issue, I would love to get > clued in to it. > > art de armond > > -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 10:48 AM > To: n197tr4 at cs.com ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? > > The stock compression height is 2.0. > There is room for the 7 inch rod, it will be right at the bottom of the oil > ring groove, with a thin ring pack. > The rod/stroke ratio isn't that bad on these engines but generally anything > that reduces loads is a good thing... > Glen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Alexander > To: fot > Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42 am > Subject: [Fot] 7" PAUTER RODS? > > > Anyone have any experience with 7.00" RODS? > > > > This is an inquiry from some I apparently met in Portland, OR > > > > He refers to a similar kit from Cambridge. > > > > TIA. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Styduhar > > To: Joe Alexander > > Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26 am > > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > > > > > > > By the way, do you have any experience building up a long rod 4 pot. I've > > been talking with Pauter and they can make up a set of 7" rods and Wiseco > > pistons for the 87 mm sleeves. This is similar to the setup that Cambridge > > Motorsports sells using Carrilo rods and JE pistons. I can't seem to find > any > > specs in the service manual on the stock piston compression height ( I think > > it's 2") or ring landing locations to see if the wrist pin on the long rod > > will intersect the oil scraper ring groove. This is not a stroker kit, but > > Cambridge advertises that longer conrods reduce piston speed and contact > area. > > What do you think? > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > > > John, > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside at southslope.net > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4855 - Release Date: 03/06/12 _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 8 08:02:47 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:02:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks In-Reply-To: <8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca> <8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I must be barking up the wrong tree trying to stay within the 1972 SCCA rules. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:32 PM To: charly at mitchelplumbing.com; barry at penybryn.ca; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks uncle jack had them....he seemed ok with them. Tony might be able to add more insight. while not strictly legal, i know, we ended up with RATCOs Tube shock conversion and are very happy with it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Charly Mitchel To: Barry Munson ; fot Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Triumph Lever shocks I had looked at them once and it seemed they had a tube or something that was remotely controlled. I think I decided to not get them because it was going to cost close to $200 each by the time I got them in my hand. Maybe I should look at them again. Who's first you or me? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 8 08:39:22 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:39:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Triumph Lever shocks In-Reply-To: References: <002c01ccfca2$960c9410$c225bc30$@ca><8CECAD1933A171B-24B4-5EE8@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECB58C4A2B006-2878-4616@webmail-d133.sysops.aol.com> I opened the door on tube shocks and drew attention to myself. Didnt mean to. It is my understanding that the 1963 GCR in SCCA allowed tube shock conversions, but have never researched it myself. Scroll down to see someone who did research it. I shouldnt have suggested that my conversion was 'illegal'. I dont really know. Anyway, as a non-organization of non-rules, we are self policing. So it is left to the sanctioning body and their tech folks to determine was is right. Good time to mention: One of the factors in determining the KASTNER CUP recipient is TRIUMPH preparation to period specifications, during Kas' regime. Note the word recipient as the 'winner' might be avoided in this case. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Joe Alexander wrote:while not strictly legal, i know, we ended up with RATCOs tube shock conversion. THEN I RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING............ If you look in the 63 SCCA GCR, you will see tube shock conversion as an accepted mod for the TR4 in Production class. I checked that out before I bought my car, since my car had a tube shock conversion. It was Bill Dentinger that pointed me in the right direction to find that in the GCR. From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Mar 8 10:24:47 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:24:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP NEWS JERRY BARKER References: <8CECACCDA10FF3E-24B4-5BAB@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5861E4BCC9E748E0B0127C3CF58A10A5@TRIUMPH.local> I just added Jerry to our list at http://www.fot-racing.com/feature/2012mitty/participants.htm I am still waiting for HSR's list of registered Triumph entries, and will edit the list with that information! We need to finalize this list for printing the t-shirts this weekend, so any assistance on getting it right will be appreciated! If you are not on the list and should be, email me or Marty. If you are on the list and should not be, we need to know that too! Cheers Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP NEWS JERRY BARKER > Jerry Called today and announced his plan to be at the MITTY.....with his > SPITFIRE 1500. The same Spitfire he won the SCCA RUNOFFS IN 1980. That's > HISTORY. From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Thu Mar 8 11:02:45 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:02:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <83A00A96E07D46A2982E86311A669C56@Charly> Amici, After having a long conversation with Peter Caldwell peter at nosimport.com of World Wide Auto Parts I'd like to nominate him for the FoT. He's been very dedicated to developing adjustable racing shocks for British cars, also remanufacturing the original lever action shocks for Triumphs and other British cars, is a member of the six pack and all around supports our Triumph industry. BTW, he is also involved in autocross etc. Do I hear a second for his nomination? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 His business information is: Peter Caldwell World Wide Auto Parts of Madison 2517 Seiferth Rd. Madison WI USA 53716-3302 US WATS (800) 362-1025 (608) 223-9400 (608) 223-9403 fax www.worldwideimportautoparts.com www.nosimport.com From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu Mar 8 11:09:57 2012 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:09:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <5dc3de.f5f.135f380c657.Webtop.7@optonline.net> Second! Welcome Peter! On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > Amici, > After having a long conversation with Peter Caldwell > peter at nosimport.com of > World Wide Auto Parts I'd like to nominate him for the FoT. He's been > very > dedicated to developing adjustable racing shocks for British cars, > also > remanufacturing the original lever action shocks for Triumphs and > other > British cars, is a member of the six pack and all around supports our > Triumph > industry. BTW, he is also involved in autocross etc. > Do I hear a second for his nomination? > > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > > His business information is: > > Peter Caldwell > World Wide Auto Parts of Madison > 2517 Seiferth Rd. > Madison WI USA 53716-3302 > US WATS (800) 362-1025 > (608) 223-9400 > (608) 223-9403 fax > > www.worldwideimportautoparts.com > www.nosimport.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 8 11:26:41 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 13:26:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <5dc3de.f5f.135f380c657.Webtop.7@optonline.net> References: <5dc3de.f5f.135f380c657.Webtop.7@optonline.net> Message-ID: <8CECB70243FE089-870-92F8@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> well, he is from Wisconsin...that's good! he is quite resourceful...so he is a resource. he is also a member of British Motor Trade Association....of course I think that is an attribute Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Todd Redmond To: charly Cc: FOT at autox.team.net FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:16 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Second! Welcome Peter! On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: > Amici, > After having a long conversation with Peter Caldwell > peter at nosimport.com of > World Wide Auto Parts I'd like to nominate him for the FoT. He's been > very > dedicated to developing adjustable racing shocks for British cars, > also > remanufacturing the original lever action shocks for Triumphs and > other > British cars, is a member of the six pack and all around supports our > Triumph > industry. BTW, he is also involved in autocross etc. > Do I hear a second for his nomination? > > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > > His business information is: > > Peter Caldwell > World Wide Auto Parts of Madison > 2517 Seiferth Rd. > Madison WI USA 53716-3302 > US WATS (800) 362-1025 > (608) 223-9400 > (608) 223-9403 fax > > www.worldwideimportautoparts.com > www.nosimport.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 15:13:59 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:13:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> References: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: My version of the race weekend at TWS: http://youtu.be/w-Va9y2zprc Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red On Mar 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > Here is a link to one of the group 4 races. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvDLoYZpko&feature=g-upl&context=G2465543AUA > AAAAAAAAA > > Enjoy, I surely did. > > BTW... I spoke to the Vete driver after the race about the yellow colored > thing waiving in turns 1-2 and 3. I also laughed with Duncan that my little > hand wave reminded him not to pass under yellow. Great weekend all in all > just missing Red No. 14. > > See yall at the Mitty. > > Greg From jason at multivintage.com Thu Mar 8 18:48:11 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 19:48:11 -0600 Subject: [Fot] CVAR Feb race weekend report Part 3 In-Reply-To: References: <005a01ccfa2f$313eade0$93bc09a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Cool footage....Thanks! It is interesting to have seen both videos. For whatever reason, even though Greg finished in front. Duncan's footage is comparatively "faster looking" I wonder if that is a matter of camera type or resolution quality. In any case... way to go guys. Indeed the Texas FoT contingent is flying our flag high. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > My version of the race weekend at TWS: > > http://youtu.be/w-Va9y2zprc > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red > > > On Mar 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > > > Here is a link to one of the group 4 races. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvDLoYZpko&feature=g-upl&context=G2465543AUA > > AAAAAAAAA > > > > Enjoy, I surely did. > > > > BTW... I spoke to the Vete driver after the race about the yellow > colored > > thing waiving in turns 1-2 and 3. I also laughed with Duncan that my > little > > hand wave reminded him not to pass under yellow. Great weekend all in > all > > just missing Red No. 14. > > > > See yall at the Mitty. > > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From mark at bradakis.com Thu Mar 8 23:36:33 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 23:36:33 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <83A00A96E07D46A2982E86311A669C56@Charly> References: <83A00A96E07D46A2982E86311A669C56@Charly> Message-ID: <4F59A4F1.2010200@bradakis.com> Okay, I added Peter the Parts Pimp to the FOT list. Shocking, I know. mjb. From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 07:24:58 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:24:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Message-ID: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. Once we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a pine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He will be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 more with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in replacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy duty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, so he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 9 07:42:18 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:42:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust Message-ID: <20120309144218.664452E0A9@bradakis.com> Team.Net has been around a while. People join, people leave, an ebb and flow of enthusiasts over the years. Some leave a mark that will not be soon forgotten. Steve Laifman passed away, a stalwart on the Tigers list. We had Fred Thomas on Triumphs, Frank on Spridgets. Uncle Jack was a stalwart on the vintage racing scene with his immaculately prepared Triumphs. As I've mentioned before one of my least favorite tasks is removing someone from the lists as they depart. I want to add them back. I want to keep them alive in our hearts, in our minds, in our web browsers. We, as a community of kindred spirits need to show our respect, admiration and appreciation. Team.Net is currently in a bit of disarray as I work on updating, upgrading and unfortunetly upending various services. In the midst of this cloud of digital dust a new project comes to mind - a memorial page. A place to gather stories, pictures, quips and quotes about those who have touched us all. Stay tuned, there will be requests for stuff to fill these soon to be created web pages. mjb. From fasttrs at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 08:29:44 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:29:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust In-Reply-To: <20120309144218.664452E0A9@bradakis.com> References: <20120309144218.664452E0A9@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1331306984.23033.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> An excellent idea Mark! ________________________________ From: Mark J Bradakis To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:42 AM Subject: [Fot] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust Team.Net has been around a while. People join, people leave, an ebb and flow of enthusiasts over the years. Some leave a mark that will not be soon forgotten. Steve Laifman passed away, a stalwart on the Tigers list. We had Fred Thomas on Triumphs, Frank on Spridgets. Uncle Jack was a stalwart on the vintage racing scene with his immaculately prepared Triumphs. As I've mentioned before one of my least favorite tasks is removing someone from the lists as they depart. I want to add them back. I want to keep them alive in our hearts, in our minds, in our web browsers. We, as a community of kindred spirits need to show our respect, admiration and appreciation. Team.Net is currently in a bit of disarray as I work on updating, upgrading and unfortunetly upending various services. In the midst of this cloud of digital dust a new project comes to mind - a memorial page. A place to gather stories, pictures, quips and quotes about those who have touched us all. Stay tuned, there will be requests for stuff to fill these soon to be created web pages. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From malaboge at aol.com Fri Mar 9 09:17:11 2012 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:17:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> Fellow motor mounties... Here's something i did ages ago and have never had a mount go "south" since...and even if it did, it wouldn't matter much other than the fact that you'll prolly get some additional vibrations. Drill two holes down thru the metal plate directly below the existing two holes for the trans mount. Make the holes maybe a quarter inch bigger in diameter than the bolt that holds the trans to the mount. Now get two new longer bolts, you'll have to measure the length but its prolly 'bout 3"-4" long. Drop the new bolts down thru the trans, mount and lower plate. Run a nut up against the bottom of the mount so that the trans is bolted to the mount as usual. Now put a large washer or two on the end of the bolt that is stickin out thru the plate. Use a nylock nut on the end and just tighten it so that the washers touch the plate. Now if the mount goes away (yeah like that ever happens) the worst that will happen is that the bolts will allow the trans to move about an eighth of an inch or so. This will even help save the radiator if that tire wall jumps out directly in front of you! mounted in nor cal.... Nick -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. nce we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a ine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He ill be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 ore with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in eplacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy uty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, o he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander . R. E. 45 1st Street esup, Iowa 50648 19.464.4711 (cell) 197tr4 at cs.com ______________________________________________ From tr4racing at googlemail.com Fri Mar 9 10:05:30 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 18:05:30 +0100 Subject: [Fot] What do I do for profession? In-Reply-To: <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001701ccfe16$d6bd2f40$84378dc0$@com> I'm a professional hand rail shaker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHPTJR6fZo Cheers :-)) From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 13:03:18 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:03:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> yup, we've done that too. would like to have a nice tidy package that does it all well and be done with it. some have hardmounted the tailshaft, but we'd rather not do that, for a number of reasons. bring on a thread here, we may learn something to our benefit. thank's nick....... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: n197tr4 ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:17 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Fellow motor mounties... Here's something i did ages ago and have never had a mount go "south" since...and even if it did, it wouldn't matter much other than the fact that you'll prolly get some additional vibrations. Drill two holes down thru the metal plate directly below the existing two holes for the trans mount. Make the holes maybe a quarter inch bigger in diameter than the bolt that holds the trans to the mount. Now get two new longer bolts, you'll have to measure the length but its prolly 'bout 3"-4" long. Drop the new bolts down thru the trans, mount and lower plate. Run a nut up against the bottom of the mount so that the trans is bolted to the mount as usual. Now put a large washer or two on the end of the bolt that is stickin out thru the plate. Use a nylock nut on the end and just tighten it so that the washers touch the plate. Now if the mount goes away (yeah like that ever happens) the worst that will happen is that the bolts will allow the trans to move about an eighth of an inch or so. This will even help save the radiator if that tire wall jumps out directly in front of you! mounted in nor cal.... Nick -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. Once we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a pine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He will be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 more with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in replacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy duty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, so he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Mar 9 14:04:44 2012 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:04:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS yup, we've done that too. would like to have a nice tidy package that does it all well and be done with it. some have hardmounted the tailshaft, but we'd rather not do that, for a number of reasons. bring on a thread here, we may learn something to our benefit. thank's nick....... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: n197tr4 ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:17 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Fellow motor mounties... Here's something i did ages ago and have never had a mount go "south" since...and even if it did, it wouldn't matter much other than the fact that you'll prolly get some additional vibrations. Drill two holes down thru the metal plate directly below the existing two holes for the trans mount. Make the holes maybe a quarter inch bigger in diameter than the bolt that holds the trans to the mount. Now get two new longer bolts, you'll have to measure the length but its prolly 'bout 3"-4" long. Drop the new bolts down thru the trans, mount and lower plate. Run a nut up against the bottom of the mount so that the trans is bolted to the mount as usual. Now put a large washer or two on the end of the bolt that is stickin out thru the plate. Use a nylock nut on the end and just tighten it so that the washers touch the plate. Now if the mount goes away (yeah like that ever happens) the worst that will happen is that the bolts will allow the trans to move about an eighth of an inch or so. This will even help save the radiator if that tire wall jumps out directly in front of you! mounted in nor cal.... Nick -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS FOT, For 20 years we have dealt with various motor mounts at the transmission. Once we replaced a motor mount at Road America with material available.....a pine 2 x 4. We are not sure if that wasnt the best one we had to that point. Sean got tired of fiddling with substandard mounts and designed his own. He will be installing for use at Road Atlanta. But I think he will have 1 or 2 more with him. It is compatible with the old mount as a direct bolt in replacement. If anyone is interested in seeing it, Sean will show and explain. It is heavy duty, but provides vibration isolation. He is doing it in SOLIDWORKS for the laser program and has constructed a mold, so he can produce more if there is a future interest. It is likely a lifetime rear mount for race or street. Any one else interested? Please let me know. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 14:30:58 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:30:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Glen, Yup, we've done that, too, and it works. Yet, we'd like to take a step further. Greg Solow interjects some thoughtful observations that may be incorporated into the design, eventually.. Keep the comments and interest coming....we have about 8 responses in about 4 hours. There must be an interest. There seems to be an opportunity to relieve some stresses from the gearbox....stresses that have been known to crack bellhousings. Stresses that might not be very good for the gearbox internals, either. Time to think outside the GEARBOX, as it were. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 To: n197tr4 ; malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen From riverside at southslope.net Fri Mar 9 15:19:28 2012 From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:19:28 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com><8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com><8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On my TR3 racer we rigged up some long bolts, big flat washers, and some old valve springs to make a mount that allowed some vertical movement in response to twists. light, simple,easily disassembled when needed. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 3:30 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Glen, Yup, we've done that, too, and it works. Yet, we'd like to take a step further. Greg Solow interjects some thoughtful observations that may be incorporated into the design, eventually.. Keep the comments and interest coming....we have about 8 responses in about 4 hours. There must be an interest. There seems to be an opportunity to relieve some stresses from the gearbox....stresses that have been known to crack bellhousings. Stresses that might not be very good for the gearbox internals, either. Time to think outside the GEARBOX, as it were. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 To: n197tr4 ; malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside at southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4860 - Release Date: 03/09/12 From tr4racing at googlemail.com Fri Mar 9 15:31:02 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 23:31:02 +0100 Subject: [Fot] What do I do for profession? In-Reply-To: <316C7A82-B2D4-4C78-9546-ED20D6B02114@charter.net> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <001701ccfe16$d6bd2f40$84378dc0$@com> <316C7A82-B2D4-4C78-9546-ED20D6B02114@charter.net> Message-ID: <000301ccfe44$50467dd0$f0d37970$@com> Well, if a hardhat and an orange vest is giving some kind of authority, then I should switch over to shake women's boobs. I'm a professional boobs shaker then *lol* -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jerry Barr [mailto:jerrybarr at charter.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Mdrz 2012 22:20 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] What do I do for profession? If he were wearing a hardhat and a blaze orange vest he could do that anywhere in the U.S. without anyone asking why he was shaking hand rails. On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:05 AM, MadMarx wrote: > I'm a professional hand rail shaker: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHPTJR6fZo > > Cheers :-)) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr at charter.net From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Fri Mar 9 15:46:49 2012 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:46:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Formula 1 availability?? Message-ID: <001e01ccfe46$84013820$8c03a860$@rr.com> Perhaps I am the only one that only keeps Speed Channel for the F1 telecasts. If I could find another source I would drop that channel like a hot brick. With all the streaming available I'm surprised it's not available in that format. Unfortunately all the programming I liked like "Legends of Motorsport" and some of the British factory films has gone away in favor of worthless dribble loaded with obnoxious commercials. Back in the day of Speedvision they even had vintage racing along with lots of rally and European/Australian racing. There was also the "Drive-In Theater" which showed campy "car" related movies hosted by Bruce Dern. Okay, that's my opinion. Anyone discover an alternative way to receive F1 and auto related programming? I refuse to pay for HD to get Octane Discovery. Thanks Russ From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 9 16:00:29 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:00:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR4 Pinion Oil Seal Message-ID: <1331334029.897.YahooMailRC@web181316.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> A M I C I After all of these years I just noticed that Moss lists two different oil seals for the TR4 rear end pinion. One for the IRS diff and another for the solid axle. Does anyone know what the difference is? The seal that I use measures 1.500x2.687x.500 - not even sure which one it is. Dennis From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 17:39:07 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:39:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LAST, LAST CALL FOR MITTY SHIRTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am submitting the shirt order Sunday March 11th so you have until tomorrow to get your Kastner Cup or FOT shirt orders in to me. If you have a shirt on order currently you would have received an acknowledgement email from me. If you are not sure feel free to drop me a line and I will check. Kastner Cup drivers names on the shirt. We need to finalize this by tomorrow also. All the names that are currently going on the shirt are listed on the FOT-racing.com web site http://www.fot-racing.com/feature/2012mitty/participants.htm . Thanks Henry. If you are planning on racing and your name is not on the list let me know. If your name is on the list and you know you will not be attending also let me know so we can make the text bigger for those attending. Right now it looks like we will be making around 180 total shirts. The Kastner Cup shirts should be a pretty neat souvenir for this fantastic event. Marty From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 08:36:22 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:36:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil Message-ID: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... thoughts? Bobby Whitehead From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 10:28:42 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:28:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil Message-ID: <1331400522.41752.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 9:36:22 AM Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... thoughts? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From sjanzen at me.com Sat Mar 10 10:52:52 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:52:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: <1331400522.41752.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331400522.41752.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0571021D-3039-4382-82E6-26D137A72B38@me.com> One of the weak points of the straight-six engine is the inadequate castings that some of these bolts thread into, combined with sheet metal timing covers and oil pans that aren't flat and don't stay that way. Having been there, done that, on my engine all the threaded holes into that crappy casting - the one below the front main bearing - are now heli-coiled, bolts have been carefully calibrated to make sure they don't bottom out and ruin the threads before the cover or pan are tight, make sure that the casting is flush with the block and engine plate when installed, etc. I use copious amounts of Permatex ultrablack on the pan and timing covers, combined with the thick gaskets. I'm not sure the thick one is really necessary at the timing cover - more important that the cover is flat and not distorted at the bolt holes - otherwise the assembly cinches tight and you still have daylight in between the bolt holes! Try the timing cover first, but then be potentially ready to pull the whole f-ing mess just to change the oil pan gasket! The whole assembly requires a lot of fiddling, and over-tightening stuff often makes it worse. On Mar 10, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 9:36:22 AM Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... thoughts? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 11:03:41 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:03:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1331402622.84810.YahooMailRC@web180819.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Its one of Joes.. I think my culprit is the thin gasket behind the engine plate matted to the cast iron block.. Bobby ________________________________ From: Yellow04 To: Bobby Whitehead Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 11:51:27 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Triumph and Oil What front engine plate is on there now, oem or Joe's? The TR4 engine uses the same thin paper gasket with no goo and seals fine. From gaf3 at charter.net Sat Mar 10 13:11:43 2012 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:11:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F5BB57F.7050202@charter.net> Fastest way to find the source is to clean off the area with brake clean and let it flash off and dry out. Spray the area with a white talc, preferably an aerosol or just use baby powder. Start the engine and immediately look for the start of the wet spot. This is an easy fast way to trace your leaks and cheaper than a black light and leak check fluid. Glenn On 3/10/2012 10:36 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > After my wonderful weekend at TWS my little GT6 was showing more of the "marking > of the territory" than I really liked... the source, I thought was coming from > the ARE replacement front engine cover... someone in the re-assembly process > (not me) had stripped out one of the mounting holes, even tapping a larger bolt > to attach the timing cover. It's a short bolt that holds the timing cover only, > not meant to attach to the block. Fortunately I had a spare and even though I > didn't want to pull the timing cover and timing chain off, I methodically > removed and carefully marked the timing chain to the crank. I used the flimsy > thin paper gasket between the front of the block and the engine cover. I did not > slather it with gasket material. After the fact I noticed I have some thicker > gaskets, almost 3 times as thick. Re-assembled and thank goodness I didn't screw > up the timing, but now I have more oil leaking from the front of the engine. > It's either my flimsy seal or the oil pan is leaking up front. Sleepless nights > realizing if the oil pan is leaking I have to pull the whole engine/transmission > to get the oil pan off or try the thicker engine to engine cover gasket... > thoughts? Bobby Whitehead From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 13:41:18 2012 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:41:18 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Triumph and Oil In-Reply-To: <4F5BB57F.7050202@charter.net> References: <1331393782.41971.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4F5BB57F.7050202@charter.net> Message-ID: Bobby, Or if you can obtain an aerosol can of "developer" (used with dye penetrant products to make cracks more visible) I would use that. It's like talc in a liquid carrier. Oil leaks will show up clearly if you've already degreased the thing before spraying on the developer and letting it dry. Duncan (Texas) On Mar 10, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: > Fastest way to find the source is to clean off the area with brake clean and let it flash off and dry out. > Spray the area with a white talc, preferably an aerosol or just use baby powder. > Start the engine and immediately look for the start of the wet spot. > This is an easy fast way to trace your leaks and cheaper than a black light and leak check fluid. > Glenn From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 10 21:39:26 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:39:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer Message-ID: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To clarify my dilemma there was no issue with the ARP cover from Joe... some dummy at the machine shop took a longer bolt on assembly and torqued it into the threaded ARP allow cover. The longer bolt was torqued till it came into contact with what I believe is the front main seal... There is NO issue with Joe A. or the ARP cover,,, dummies at the machine shop, well, we've all been there I guess... sorry Joe... I owe you a Neil Diamond song on my stealth guitar... wait... I'm suffering sleep deprivation here... I'll play you something original..... see you soon! Bobby From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 11 06:09:20 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer In-Reply-To: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CECD96ECBD7805-D90-7085@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> I really like Neil Diamond.... :-) But what's an ARP ALLOW COVER? Bobby, dont answer that! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Cc: Joe Alexander Sent: Sat, Mar 10, 2012 10:39 pm Subject: Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer To clarify my dilemma there was no issue with the ARP cover from Joe... some dummy at the machine shop took a longer bolt on assembly and torqued it into the threaded ARP allow cover. The longer bolt was torqued till it came into contact with what I believe is the front main seal... There is NO issue with Joe A. or the ARP cover,,, dummies at the machine shop, well, we've all been there I guess... sorry Joe... I owe you a Neil Diamond song on my stealth guitar... wait... I'm suffering sleep deprivation here... I'll play you something original..... see you soon! Bobby From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 11 10:55:58 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:55:58 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Triumph and oil and Neil Diamond tunes with the 6 pack at 12:00 midnight around the trailer In-Reply-To: <8CECD96ECBD7805-D90-7085@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> References: <1331440766.81692.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CECD96ECBD7805-D90-7085@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4F5CD91E.6060003@bradakis.com> Joe Alexander wrote: > I really like Neil Diamond.... :-) > > But what's an ARP ALLOW COVER? > > Just a simple typo - I'm sure he meant AARP ! mjb. From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 11 14:54:26 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:54:26 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Fot] [CWE] Western FOT, who's going to Willow? Message-ID: <29951710.1331499267183.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> /local/mailman/lynxXXXXt0nbb9: Permission denied From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 11 15:24:05 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:24:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Fot] Progress, of sorts Message-ID: <20120311212405.32D582E05D@bradakis.com> Team.Net is working a tad bit better this weekend. At least now when you use the archive or forum links below you don't get a blank stare. The archives are more important, I'll work on them some more tonight. Right now it is a pleasant spring afternoon and my little truck is in serious need of attention, back outside for a while. mjb. From sgroh1 at comcast.net Mon Mar 12 05:58:27 2012 From: sgroh1 at comcast.net (sgroh1 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Formula 1 availability?? In-Reply-To: <001e01ccfe46$84013820$8c03a860$@rr.com> Message-ID: <733735040.183046.1331553507660.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> You're certainly not alone there, Russ.B I'm to the point where I now toggle to Versus before Speed Channel.B Maybe it's the parent company ESPN that dictates the mindless fodder like Dumbest Stuff on Wheels -B Speed Channel's B now the Dumbest Stuff on T elevision. PLEASE bring back Legends of Motorsport and archival footage programs from BBC, BP, Shell, let's hear from Murray Walker and Stirling and Alan de C adenet - I'll even look foerward to hearing Sam Posey.B Anything but the dumbed-down un-leaded crap that is on day after day after day.B But don't get me started.... I've actually found some fabulous stuff on YouTube.B The sights and sounds of Jimmy ClarkB flying through the forest at the old Nurburgring, Jackie Oliver at the Glen in the rain , or Group C at Spa.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spitfire Racing" To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 5:46:49 PM Subject: [Fot] Formula 1 availability?? Perhaps I am the only one that only keeps Speed Channel for the F1 telecasts. If I could find another source I would drop that channel like a hot brick. With all the streaming available I'm surprised it's not available in that format. Unfortunately all the programming I liked like "Legends of Motorsport" and some of the British factory films has gone away in favor of worthless dribble loaded with obnoxious commercials. Back in the day of Speedvision they even had vintage racing along with lots of rally and European/Australian racing. There was also the "Drive-In Theater" which showed campy "car" related movies hosted by Bruce Dern. Okay, that's my opinion. B Anyone discover an alternative way to receive F1 and auto related programming? I refuse to pay for HD to get Octane Discovery. Thanks B Russ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sgroh1 at comcast.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 07:13:03 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:13:03 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I will be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not work. Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. Thanks, Marty From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Mon Mar 12 08:09:12 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:09:12 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Battery References: Message-ID: Hi Marty, Jegs, Summitt, and others sell battery boxes . I think some guys use boxes from marine/boat suppliers. Mine's a metal box bolted to the floor behind the RR wheel. With a bolt on lid. I'm thinking about making one out of aluminum and TIG welding it together. I bought a Lincoln TIG welder a while ago. And took an advanced welding class to learn how to use it! Let me know how you make out. Bill PS, I got the package. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "marty sukey" To: "FOT" Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:13 AM Subject: [Fot] Battery > Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I > will > be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done > anything > creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not > work. > Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. > > Thanks, > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From brad.kahler at 141.com Mon Mar 12 08:10:01 2012 From: brad.kahler at 141.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:10:01 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Stahl header Message-ID: Amici, Typically when I install a new engine in Susan's spitfire the Stahl header is setting in place inside the frame rails and I slide the engine and transmission into place while manipulating the header to allow for clearance. This time around I would like to have the header already installed on the engine and slide the engine with header and transmission into place as a unit. Can anyone confirm (or deny) that this approach will work with a Stahl header? Thanks, Brad From fasttrs at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 08:38:54 2012 From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:38:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <607F9766-93C8-4D04-B67F-F88707DBBCD4@yahoo.com> Braille makes all kinds of lightweight batteries. I dropped 22 pounds in my car by installing a 2015. I know of several SCCA racers that use them with no alternator. I will used an outside starter battery from the grid to save reserve power in case I spin and kill the engine, BTDT. They are also AGM so can be mounted in any position and with some race rules don't have to be in a non conductive box just have the terminals well protected. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2012, at 8:13 AM, marty sukey wrote: > Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I will > be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything > creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not work. > Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. > > Thanks, > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com From fpspitfire at comcast.net Mon Mar 12 08:52:15 2012 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (Aaron Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Battery In-Reply-To: <607F9766-93C8-4D04-B67F-F88707DBBCD4@yahoo.com> References: <607F9766-93C8-4D04-B67F-F88707DBBCD4@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ECB1AA-6DCD-4643-9DE1-561E7425E88E@comcast.net> Braille here as well. With a jumper batter for starting in the paddock and grid. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:38, Mike Munson wrote: > Braille makes all kinds of lightweight batteries. I dropped 22 pounds in my > car by installing a 2015. I know of several SCCA racers that use them with no > alternator. I will used an outside starter battery from the grid to save > reserve power in case I spin and kill the engine, BTDT. They are also AGM so > can be mounted in any position and with some race rules don't have to be in a > non conductive box just have the terminals well protected. > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 8:13 AM, marty sukey wrote: > >> Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I > will >> be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything >> creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not > work. >> Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fpspitfire at comcast.net From VANDECARR at aol.com Mon Mar 12 10:40:27 2012 From: VANDECARR at aol.com (VANDECARR at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: <27132.151be8ef.3c8f80fa@aol.com> I'm using an odyssey battery - I think it's the PC 625. I'm now using it on my formula car which has a total loss system and EFI. I have one for the starter,fuel pump and fan and the other is for the ECU and electronics. I used this same battery on my TR6 which has a 400hp V8 - would start it with no problem. It weighs about 13 lbs. and can be mounted on any orientation. Their chargers and make specifically for their batteries and work great. Available at Summit and other places and not too expensive. Dean VanDeCarr From jaboruch at netzero.net Tue Mar 13 16:01:10 2012 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:01:10 GMT Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: <20120313.180110.22947.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> I am also using an Odyssey PC 625MT. It is small and light weight. The MT stands for metal jacket. I am using an alternator and it always have plenty of power. Once my alternator failed sometime during a race weekend and I finished the race fine, it just would not start at post race impound. It is mounted laying down on the passenger side of the boot near the front corner. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: marty sukey To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Battery Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:13:03 -0400 Am going to need to fab a battery box to go on the parcel shelf. Since I will be starting with a clean slate I was wondering if anybody has done anything creative battery size wise to decrease weight that did or maybe did not work. Tractor, motorcycle, that sort of thing. Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4f5fc3f5ee16e26f337ast04duc From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Mar 13 16:07:13 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:07:13 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: I was not that lucky with a hawker odyssey. Just lasted a year and didn't survive winter. Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 13 18:44:19 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Garage Sale Message-ID: <1331685859.80571.YahooMailRC@web181315.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> AMICI - I'm having a Garage Sale. One brand new (still boxed and cellophaned) ARP head stud kit for the TR3/4 tractor motor - $100 and for you Miata & Mini owners: - a very nice used set of four 15x7" alloy wheels ( Black five spoke) with Falken Azenis 205/50 R15 tires - $300 Thanks - see you all soon in Atlanta Dennis From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 15 06:47:49 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around Message-ID: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Mar 15 07:08:44 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:08:44 +0100 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005b01cd02ac$c33c6cc0$49b54640$@com> Hi Bobby, MP4 is the most wanted format for youtube. Most of my videos are in MP4 and youtube does eat them without quality loss. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 13:48 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] fiddle farting around after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Mar 15 07:21:02 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:21:02 +0100 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005c01cd02ae$7a8c42f0$6fa4c8d0$@com> Great video! These GT6 cars are damned fast. The TR4s on the track hadn't an easy life with you. Did you get the blue TR4? Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 13:48 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] fiddle farting around after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From TR3driver at ca.rr.com Thu Mar 15 08:57:42 2012 From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:57:42 -0700 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <021c01cd02bb$f95f6190$0301a8c0@randall> "MP4" is kind of like "internal combustion" ... it's just a broad category that leaves a whole lot of open ground as to what is actually under the hood. FWIW, here is some free software that will convert almost anything to almost anything. The trick is learning which options (what's "under the hood") you need on the output. http://ffmpeg.org/ Thanks for the links, Bobby, but this one http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 didn't work for me. YouTube claims it is a "previously uploaded video", but no link to the supposed duplicate either. -- Randall From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Mar 15 11:32:21 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:32:21 +0100 Subject: [Fot] fiddle farting around In-Reply-To: <1331832256.82720.YahooMailRC@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1331815669.34625.YahooMailRC@web180813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <005b01cd02ac$c33c6cc0$49b54640$@com> <1331832256.82720.YahooMailRC@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b101cd02d1$955e2d50$c01a87f0$@com> Youtube list (sorry for German): * WebM-Dateien: Vp8-Video-Codec und Vorbis-Audio-Codec * MPEG4-, 3GPP- und MOV-Dateien: in der Regel H.264- und MPEG4-Video-Codecs sowie AAC-Audio-Codec * AVI: Ausgabeformat vieler Kameras; Video-Codec in der Regel MJPEG, Audio-Codec PCM * MPEGPS: unterst|tzt normalerweise MPEG2-Video-Codec und MP2 bei Audio * WMV * FLV: Adobe-FLV1-Video-Codec, MP3-Audio Von: Bobby Whitehead [mailto:igofaster at att.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 18:24 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: AW: [Fot] fiddle farting around I tried three times and it was like in 550 minute download... MP4 isn't listed as acceptable on what I saw... one day... I'll get up to 'speed' on your quality videos you share,,, thanks for the heads up... Bobby _____ From: MadMarx To: Bobby Whitehead ; FoT Triumph Sent: Thu, March 15, 2012 8:08:44 AM Subject: AW: [Fot] fiddle farting around Hi Bobby, MP4 is the most wanted format for youtube. Most of my videos are in MP4 and youtube does eat them without quality loss. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Mdrz 2012 13:48 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] fiddle farting around after much duress and HOURS of F.F.A. I FINALLY figured out how to post my GOPRO videos to YouTube.. nice to know AFTER the fact that one of the coolest cameras for what we can use records in MP4 which is not a format YouTube handles... so ... I bought software co convert to .wmv files which does work... ANYWAY if interested... http://youtu.be/b9sHvrk0_n4 .... http://youtu.be/pYCRHatFVIs are two I posted... Bobby Whitehead #39 Puke Yellow Triumph GT-6+ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 15 15:17:21 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] GT6 Youtube Message-ID: <1331846241.93037.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> here's my other Youtube.... still learning.... Bobby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhLcMnL8uG8&feature=channel From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Fri Mar 16 03:53:46 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:53:46 +1000 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 Message-ID: has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry From tlizzard at msn.com Fri Mar 16 05:27:09 2012 From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:27:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've seen Miata seats in Spitfires, so they should work in a TR series I would think. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- From: Enquiries Road & Track To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard at msn.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Fri Mar 16 05:39:16 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:39:16 -0400 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 References: Message-ID: <19E8E2DF79894875AC5219E6B3920655@owner8914bbf7f> Didn't Uncle Jack do something with Miata seats? Tony, any insight? Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Enquiries Road & Track" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 > has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 > (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they > are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. > thanks, Terry > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM Fri Mar 16 07:11:33 2012 From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:11:33 +0000 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> The NB Miata seats years '99-'05 are very comfortable and relatively inexpensive. Generally you can get a pair for $200 or so and are readily available locally on Craigslist or local Miata Club. John This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:54 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley at centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Fri Mar 16 07:30:04 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> Message-ID: <1331904604.26231.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Terry: Uncle Jack did design and build brackets which mount Miata seats into a TR. They are currently being sold by Joe Alexander / ARE. I ordered some a couple of weeks ago and they are very nice units. The nice thing about Miata seats is that you can get them with speakers in the headrests which make listening to a stereo much more enjoyable/possible. -Ed- --- On Fri, 3/16/12, John Wiley wrote: From: John Wiley Subject: Re: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 To: "Enquiries Road & Track" , "fot at autox.team.net" Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 8:11 AM The NB Miata seats years '99-'05 are very comfortable and relatively inexpensive. Generally you can get a pair for $200 or so and are readily available locally on Craigslist or local Miata Club. John This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:54 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley at centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 08:10:50 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:10:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 :Now TR7/8? In-Reply-To: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> References: , <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> Message-ID: As a side subject. Anybody found seats that would fit in a TR7/8? I tried TR6 seats and the base was too high, did not leave enough clearance between legs and steering wheel so I am assuming Miata seats would have the same issue. Marty From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 16 08:28:13 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 MIATA SEAT CONVERSION KIT BY A.R.E. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED198277A7259-1888-DE4@webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com> When Uncle Jack was making up the brackets for his TR6, I suggested that there was a market for these as a kit. Sean Alexander and Jack worked on the design together. Sean worked on the design for manufacturing in a production mode. They are laser blanked, formed and powder coated. A hardware kit comes with it and it is shipped in a custom box. Tony turned the project over to Sean after Jack died. Sean has made improvements to the kit with the help of the TR6 guys. It fits several models of Triumphs. Paul Rego in the east coast is preparing to fit Miata Seats in a TR8. It has become a very popular conversion. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Enquiries Road & Track To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 4:55 am Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 16 09:11:05 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED19E24E543B5-1888-1533@webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com> We recently sent a conversion kit to the editor of SPITFIRES AND GT6 for an installation in his Spitfire. We know we have sold them to Spitfire owners in the past for the Miata seats, and never heard back. We have to assume all went well. The installation may have required drilling a hole or two in the floor, but not likely a big deal. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Terry Stetler To: fot ; Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 6:31 am Subject: Re: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 I've seen Miata seats in Spitfires, so they should work in a TR series I would think. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- From: Enquiries Road & Track To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard at msn.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Mar 16 09:26:12 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 In-Reply-To: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> References: <300E4FE2A2FC894EB5791B33C38DA3B6071B85@CLYEXMB01P.centene.com> Message-ID: <8CED1A040D91559-1888-17DE@webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com> The NA seats (earlier years) work very well, too. Many conversions have been done with these. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Wiley To: Enquiries Road & Track ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 8:15 am Subject: Re: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 The NB Miata seats years '99-'05 are very comfortable and relatively inexpensive. Generally you can get a pair for $200 or so and are readily available locally on Craigslist or local Miata Club. John This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:54 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 has anyone found an alternative seat that will fit into a TR5/250 or TR6 (road use, not race car)?. i've looked at some Toyota MR2 ones, and they are close, but just a little bit too wide at the front. thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley at centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Fri Mar 16 16:44:37 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:37 +1000 Subject: [Fot] alternative seats for TR6 Message-ID: many thanks for all the replies. I should be able to find these locally. Terry From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat Mar 17 05:56:43 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:56:43 +1000 Subject: [Fot] alternative rocker arms for TR6 Message-ID: has anyone found an alternative, higher ratio rocker arm that can be adapted into a 6 cyl??. I know about the various brands of roller rocker, but some of our historic race classes here prevents their use. i have found some old volvo ones which are close, but not close enough to avoid massive re-engineering. any alternatives??? thanks Terry (TR5) From sjanzen at me.com Sat Mar 17 07:11:52 2012 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:11:52 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Looking for Bill Davis Message-ID: <9475B336-EE15-4F7A-A84C-F125733701BC@me.com> I'd like to track down Bill Davis. He owned/raced my GT6 for a number of years starting in 1973 through 1977(?). I believe he lives in North Carolina. I spoke with him 4-5 years ago, but lost his number in a computer crash ( and we think British cars are unreliable!). Anybody have an idea of his whereabouts? I'm going to VIR for the Wild Hare in April and would really like to re-unite him with the car if he's interested. Thanks! Scott 215-817-9315 From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sat Mar 17 13:36:33 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Calendar appologies Message-ID: <4460B5D7-83FB-4CAB-BBC3-AFC265B2801D@aol.com> Amici After much consideration I am going to postpone doing the calendar till September or October. This way it can be a Christmas present. I am looking at a price between $15-$20 each. Only other pictures I am looking for is a starting grid pic of this years along with winner and his car. I have to ask this because I am not going to make it there. I have to postpone because of moving, getting a house, moving my business, and family. Please forgive me. On another note, I still gave badges and flags. Thank you From igofaster at att.net Sat Mar 17 16:55:20 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Youtube walkaround GT-6+ / Texas FoT crew Message-ID: <1332024920.78077.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> A crude video of a walk around of the GT-6+ .... Ready for the Mitty! Found my oil leak, fixed 99% of the leak. The after marker alloy front sealing block was not quite flush with the front of the engine block. It was protruding just enough to feel the obtrusion by touch. I loosened to two attachment bolts from the bottom of the oil pin and with a mallet tapped the front sealing block flush with the engine. Some hi-temp gasket sealer, new gaskets, and all buttoned up and ready for the Mitty. This video is fresh 03-07-12. There are a couple of Texas F.O.T guys that have a track day scheduled (thanks Bill Collins!) at the Cresson Texas MSR in April before the Mitty.... Bill and Joe Hovey, and Bob Blake are all working on new builds and re-builds in prep for the Mitty! God willing.... with what I know in our Texas F.o.T group, we have 1. Robert (Bob) 'Fireball' Kramer TR4 of 2. Is Andrew Kramer coming with his dad Bob? TR4 3. Gregg Blake TR3 4. Bob Blake (2nd father and son group) TR4 5. Bill 'Dipstick' (don't ask) Collins SPITFIRE 6. Joe Hovey SPITFIRE 7. Bobby (Pawn Star of CVAR) Whitehead GT-6+ http://youtu.be/WWfJilIauKo From ac at camoletti.ch Sat Mar 17 17:02:39 2012 From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:02:39 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS In-Reply-To: <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CECC178A8B503D-C4C-10D4@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com><8CECC2737C79339-105C-18F5@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC46CE107D82-C4C-436F@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC4F638BEE75-1964-376F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC50EA197B39-C4C-4D38@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> <8CECC530CC5C703-C4C-4EF0@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000f01cd0492$0e25d870$2a718950$@camoletti.ch> Amici, it looks like we will have a rear mount of decent quality. Would love to purchase one ! In particular if it allows torsional movements of the box, so that the chassis will be able to flex as it likes and save the bellhousing. Keep us posted and put one aside for me whenever you make the first prod run! Cheers and keep the great momentum! Alex (Geneva, Switzerland) -----Message d'origine----- De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Joe Alexander Envoyi : vendredi 9 mars 2012 22:31 @ : fot at autox.team.net Objet : [Fot] Fwd: TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS Glen, Yup, we've done that, too, and it works. Yet, we'd like to take a step further. Greg Solow interjects some thoughtful observations that may be incorporated into the design, eventually.. Keep the comments and interest coming....we have about 8 responses in about 4 hours. There must be an interest. There seems to be an opportunity to relieve some stresses from the gearbox....stresses that have been known to crack bellhousings. Stresses that might not be very good for the gearbox internals, either. Time to think outside the GEARBOX, as it were. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 To: n197tr4 ; malaboge ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 TR4 REAR ENGINE MOUNTS NEW DESIGN IN THE WORKS A short length of "angle iron" with a half inch hole in it fastened under the tailshaft boss on each side, with the flat face butted up against the end of the mount, to take the lateral loads. This is pretty much SOP, easy to do, and works great. Glen _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch From jhhasty at gdhs.com Sun Mar 18 11:23:42 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:23:42 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Youtube walkaround GT-6+ / Texas FoT crew In-Reply-To: <1332024920.78077.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1332024920.78077.YahooMailRC@web180802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0F27C1F1-2914-4ED8-999C-F36264B736DF@gdhs.com> Be sure and tell Bob K to look me up in the paddock & take a look at his old TR3A Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > A crude video of a walk around of the GT-6+ .... Ready for the Mitty! Found my > oil leak, fixed 99% of the leak. The after marker alloy front sealing block was > not quite flush with the front of the engine block. It was protruding just > enough to feel the obtrusion by touch. I loosened to two attachment bolts from > the bottom of the oil pin and with a mallet tapped the front sealing block flush > with the engine. Some hi-temp gasket sealer, new gaskets, and all buttoned up > and ready for the Mitty. This video is fresh 03-07-12. > There are a couple of Texas F.O.T guys that have a track day scheduled (thanks > Bill Collins!) at the Cresson Texas MSR in April before the Mitty.... Bill and > Joe Hovey, and Bob Blake are all working on new builds and re-builds in prep for > the Mitty! God willing.... with what I know in our Texas F.o.T group, we have > > 1. Robert (Bob) 'Fireball' Kramer TR4 of > 2. Is Andrew Kramer coming with his dad Bob? TR4 > 3. Gregg Blake TR3 > 4. Bob Blake (2nd father and son group) TR4 > 5. Bill 'Dipstick' (don't ask) Collins SPITFIRE > 6. Joe Hovey SPITFIRE > 7. Bobby (Pawn Star of CVAR) Whitehead GT-6+ > > http://youtu.be/WWfJilIauKo > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From jhassall at blacksburg.net Sun Mar 18 16:06:13 2012 From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:06:13 -0400 Subject: [Fot] max. TIR for TR4 aluminum flywheel? Message-ID: <4F665C55.6040308@blacksburg.net> Amici, What is the maximum flywheel total indicator runout you'd feel comfortable with? I was finally able to remount the Fidanza f/w on my TR4 engine this afternoon, only to find that it has 0.005 TIR. I have no record on my build log of the previous runout, so I need advice. Given that it's for "fast road" / autox, red line 6K (nitrided crank, lightened and balanced rotating bits, PP and f/w balanced as an assembly), do you think 0.005 is too much? Since all mating surfaces were clean and smooth, of course I was shooting for 0.000, so needless to say I was disappointed. TIA jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go From jhassall at blacksburg.net Sun Mar 18 16:10:47 2012 From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:10:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Al. f/w runout Message-ID: <4F665D67.1040700@blacksburg.net> One more data point: the pressure plate is the improved TR4A design (much lighter than the -4 design) j -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Mar 19 15:29:37 2012 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:29:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info Message-ID: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> I'm trying to access the information on the various types of TR3 &TR4 cylinder heads that I believe Terry Ann Wakeman put together. The old link that I have does not work, it just routes me to "Go Daddy.com". Could someone send me the correct link if that info is still available? Thanks. Tim Murphy From tjwakeman at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 16:05:45 2012 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:05:45 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info In-Reply-To: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> References: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> Message-ID: <4F67ADB9.4040609@gmail.com> On 3/19/12 2:29 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > I'm trying to access the information on the various types of TR3&TR4 > cylinder heads that I believe Terry Ann Wakeman put together. The old link > that I have does not work, it just routes me to "Go Daddy.com". There is no correct link for the site at the moment. I get started trying to link the site properly into the domain name and never got it working properly. Sent a help message to GoDaddy tech. Got a canned reply back that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Got going on other things & never got around to revisiting it. I didn't think anyone would notice. Guess I'm wrong. Here is how to get to the page: http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm I'll try to get the site properly connected one of these days. GoDaddy may be inexpensive hosting for really big web sites but their tech help is the absolute pits and their web site is so focused in selling you more stuff it hardly has any space for actually managing the hosting. They are no help on anything that does not make them more money. Teriann From mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 19 16:51:45 2012 From: mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net (mrcpt1@sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] TR2 Tool Kit Message-ID: <1332197505.15345.YahooMailRC@web181218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hello, I am in need of a complete OE TR2 tool kit (or a TR3 if it's the same thing ?) I would be grateful to hear from anyone out there who might be interested in selling one. Cheers, Mike Ryan . From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Mar 19 17:43:30 2012 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:43:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info In-Reply-To: <4F67ADB9.4040609@gmail.com> References: <000601cd0617$63e2e100$2ba8a300$@com> <4F67ADB9.4040609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001cd062a$17205380$4560fa80$@com> Thanks to all those who replied so quickly!! FOT rocks:) That's the info I was looking for, now I just have to use it and figure out which heads I have for spares. Thanks again. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:06 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 & TR4 cylinder head info On 3/19/12 2:29 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > I'm trying to access the information on the various types of TR3&TR4 > cylinder heads that I believe Terry Ann Wakeman put together. The old link > that I have does not work, it just routes me to "Go Daddy.com". There is no correct link for the site at the moment. I get started trying to link the site properly into the domain name and never got it working properly. Sent a help message to GoDaddy tech. Got a canned reply back that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Got going on other things & never got around to revisiting it. I didn't think anyone would notice. Guess I'm wrong. Here is how to get to the page: http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm I'll try to get the site properly connected one of these days. GoDaddy may be inexpensive hosting for really big web sites but their tech help is the absolute pits and their web site is so focused in selling you more stuff it hardly has any space for actually managing the hosting. They are no help on anything that does not make them more money. Teriann _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph at fastbytes.com From 58tr3a at videotron.ca Mon Mar 19 18:54:19 2012 From: 58tr3a at videotron.ca (Don TR) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR2 Tool Kit References: <1332197505.15345.YahooMailRC@web181218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9B45E8C5337C4D299C27DF8CF21E0185@don> John Warfield is the Prez of TRA and he used to sell the tools. Warfield, John E-mail Address(es): jdwtrxk at verizon.net Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "mrcpt1 at sbcglobal.net" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:51 PM Subject: [Fot] TR2 Tool Kit > Hello, I am in need of a complete OE TR2 tool kit (or a TR3 if it's the > same > thing ?) > > > I would be grateful to hear from anyone out there who might be > interested in > selling one. > > Cheers, Mike Ryan . > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/58tr3a at videotron.ca From kaskas at cox.net Mon Mar 19 19:12:44 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:12:44 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second Message-ID: I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Mar 19 19:15:59 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED44E248F12BF-6C8-22C5@webmail-m132.sysops.aol.com> DONE for Dunn Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Kas Kastner To: fot ; Ed Dunn Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 8:13 pm Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jason at multivintage.com Mon Mar 19 19:30:39 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:30:39 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second In-Reply-To: <8CED44E248F12BF-6C8-22C5@webmail-m132.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED44E248F12BF-6C8-22C5@webmail-m132.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1252817337-1332207040-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1625836284-@b16.c3.bise6.blackberry> Yes, I second These GT6's seem to be multiplying, lately... That's a good thing. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:15:59 To: ; ; Subject: Re: [Fot] Membership, need a second DONE for Dunn Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Kas Kastner To: fot ; Ed Dunn Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 8:13 pm Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com Tue Mar 20 00:11:39 2012 From: edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com (Edward Dunn) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:11:39 -0700 Subject: [Fot] GT6 Intro Message-ID: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0177226A3934@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Esteemed fellow enthusiasts; After watching for 30 years, in 2010 I decided to actually do something about my interest in vintage racing. I bought an old GT6 racer from Steve Smith and proceeded to jump into the ice cold/red hot pool of attempting to race. Pretty much everything that could go wrong did. Fortunately, nothing that couldn't be fixed or solved. We had so much fun/tragedy that VARA invented and awarded me a new trophy for competitor that had the worst year possible and still showed up. Apologies to Kas, but I was very much "beaten by equipment", as well as a jerk Datsun 510 racer who slammed into me my very first time on the track. Fortunately, I've met a number of really terrific folks in VARA who helped me put the car back together, and vastly improve its many shortcomings. (Oops, I still owe you a water pump Mr. Barker) Essentially, we've fundamentally rebuilt most of the car. Simple job, just takes large amounts of time and vast quantities of cash. Good thing is, it prompted me to sell most of my motorcycles which I had been dawdling on doing. I've always been into cars. Someday I'll tell the story how I got my first car at three years old (A 1940 Pontiac). Among the vehicles in our garage, is the 1952 MG TD that I learned to drive in. I have owned a wide variety of cars, bikes, boats, RV's etc., but this is my first Triumph. Except for the '66 TR4A I stole borrowed from my sister's husband for a couple weeks before he found it. Fun wheels for a 17 year old to blast around in... Best we can tell (according to Steve Smith) is that my car was raced in the L.A. area in the 80's-early 90's. Steve found it in a guy's back yard, and finally sold it to me. Steve of course, is a well known GT6 racer with his highly tuned & tweaked red #4 car. Word on the street, is that Steve will join us at Willow Springs in a couple weeks if the stars align. Steve has been quite a help with the beast, and is a really interesting crazy character guy. To further bore you, here's a brief rundown of what we've done to the car since I bought it: ' Changed number to 757 (another story for later) ' Total refinish, inside / outside / under hood ' Repair cracked frame outrigger ' Built exhaust system aft of header (including race muffler) ' Welded up floor holes, reinforced floor ' Welded up numerous rust areas, misc body repairs ' Reworked roll cage some ' Finished interior with aluminum panel ' Installed proper FIA fuel cell ' Relocated fuel pump and lines ' Replaced mirrors with proper race type ' Replaced transmission bearings ' Replaced clutch assembly ' Shortened & balanced driveshaft to fit properly ' Regeared rear axle to 4.10 ' Rebuilt brake cylinders ' Rebuilt clutch cylinders ' Replaced rotoflex's ' Replaced gauges (Autometer race) ' Replaced steering wheel (quick release) ' Rebuilt shifter ' Installed Accusump & new braided oil lines ' Replaced oil cooler ' Replaced oil pump ' Replaced radiator (VW) ' Replaced alternator ' Replaced battery ' Relocated battery to cockpit in sealed box ' Replaced electrical master switch with proper one ' Replaced seat with better Kirkey ' Replaced motor mounts ' Replaced binding throttle linkage ' Rebuilt engine; crank, rings, cam, comp head, etc... Current to do list: ' Replace suspension bushings with poly ' Rebuild/reinforce rear spring ' Complete "octopus" oil system ' Detail engine compartment ' Build spare motor & trans ' Renew brakes (Porterfield R4) ' Refine spares collection Many thanks to folks who have helped so far: X Joe Siam X Steve Smith X Rod Davis X Rod Davis Jr. (body & paint) X Jim Clark, engine builder X A whole bunch of VARA members who helped keep me going when it felt real bad... X Finally, the Master. Without his books as reference and bedtime reading, it would have been a lot tougher. Thanks, Kas. Hopefully, I can contribute as well as take from this group. Ed Dunn Encinitas, CA From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Mar 20 06:23:30 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:23:30 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Ed Dunn message Message-ID: <7626CAFD9E024F5B8D76D602CA7587D7@owner8914bbf7f> Ed, welcome to the club, in more ways than one. After reading your story I think a lot of us can have some empathy. "Ready to race, eh?" Heard that one before! I think a lot of us have been down the same road as you concerning our cars. Your story sounds a lot like mine, except for the 510 idiot (knock on wood!). Replace, rebuild, repair, re-do, re-engineer, re-wire, etc. I think I've kept Richard Good in business the last few years, along with TRF, Ted, and Jegs! The good news is that I can do most of my own work, except body work, and have all the tools to work with, including a lift. Lots of time and money went into my TR6. The thing is, I wouldn't trade the experience for anything! I've had a blast and met a whole bunch of great people. A lot of guys helped or gave advice when I started out. Now, I've had the pleasure of helping out some other guys. I usually carry way too much stuff to the races, but have helped out fellow drivers on occasion. It's all good! Best of luck in your racing. But keep in mind the old saying, "There's no such thing as luck, you make your own" I'd like to say Kas said it, but I think it was some guy named Shelby. The main thing about vintage racing: HAVE FUN! Bill From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 20 10:08:06 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1332259686.44594.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> another GT6? heck yeah.... that's a second or third... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Kas Kastner To: fot ; Ed Dunn Sent: Mon, March 19, 2012 8:12:44 PM Subject: [Fot] Membership, need a second I want to nominate Ed Dunn, new to sport, GT-6 owner and racer. Ed bought a used GT-6 racer which tried to be a racer, and failed, he has now put some seroious bucks into it and will make a nice addition to the FOT. If there is a second, Ed, you will come back with a little history about yourself and your car. Thanks to all for consideration. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From rikrock at live.com Tue Mar 20 15:55:55 2012 From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:55:55 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Message-ID: Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Tue Mar 20 16:25:19 2012 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:25:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006f01cd06e8$585d20d0$09176270$@rr.com> Have you ever read Don Quixote? This is a big windmill hardly worth the effort. Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Rock Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:56 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Mar 20 16:40:59 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:40:59 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001001cd06ea$87afc610$970f5230$@com> They might suppose the car to be flame thrower with the oil hose connected to the exhaust. I would say that the amount of oil on the road is less with that system and it does indicate very early any engine damage. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Rich Rock Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Mdrz 2012 22:56 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From billdentin at aol.com Tue Mar 20 16:48:50 2012 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> <<<- Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum ystems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't resent an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did ay that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out oday. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and hey create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? ->>> tend to agree with Russ Moore's take on any battle with SCCA. While I sure do not have one, and have no real desire for one, I'd be interested in Jack Woerhle's take if he is still monitoring this FOT List. Bill Dentinger From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 20 18:27:30 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CED51088E335D1-2BE0-24E7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> Jack Woerhle and I had this discussion a very long time ago. His response, in writing, was that anything that kept oil off the track was OK with him at tech. I am still in contact with him from time to time, but he is not on the list any longer that I am aware of. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: billdentin To: rikrock ; fot Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA <<<- Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum ystems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't resent an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did ay that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out oday. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and hey create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? ->>> tend to agree with Russ Moore's take on any battle with SCCA. While I sure do not have one, and have no real desire for one, I'd be interested in Jack Woerhle's take if he is still monitoring this FOT List. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From jhassall at blacksburg.net Tue Mar 20 18:38:32 2012 From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:38:32 -0400 Subject: [Fot] max. TIR for TR4 aluminum flywheel? In-Reply-To: <4F665C55.6040308@blacksburg.net> References: <4F665C55.6040308@blacksburg.net> Message-ID: <4F692308.2080809@blacksburg.net> On 3/18/2012 6:06 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > Amici, > > What is the maximum flywheel total indicator runout you'd feel > comfortable with? I was finally able to remount the Fidanza f/w on my > TR4 engine this afternoon, only to find that it has 0.005 TIR. I have > no record on my build log of the previous runout, so I need advice. > Given that it's for "fast road" / autox, red line 6K (nitrided crank, > lightened and balanced rotating bits, PP and f/w balanced as an > assembly), do you think 0.005 is too much? Since all mating surfaces > were clean and smooth, of course I was shooting for 0.000, so needless > to say I was disappointed. As the saying goes, "Cleanliness is next to godliness, unless you're building an engine, then the order is reversed." The TIR problem was simply due to undetectable grunge on either the f/w or the crank. After vigorously wire brushing the interfaces, it went back together perfectly. Since I specified 0.000 TIR in the satellite equipment I used to design, I figured zero was what I should have here. And I got it! Happiness is zero TIR. Now, on to the next opportunity.... -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 20 18:41:56 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CED5128D413260-2BE0-26C7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> unlikely any real research was done. but asking about it seems worthwhile. thanks Rich Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Rich Rock To: fot Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 4:56 pm Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and they create a safety issue if they malfunction". Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From fpspitfire at comcast.net Tue Mar 20 19:42:57 2012 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (Aaron Johnson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:42:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is probably about as good of a battle to pick as asking for slicks and fender flares in a vintage series. None of us run an exhaust vacuum system, none of us need to run them and none of the people who spend thousands on dyno time have found a power benefit. Aaron Johnson #87 HP spitfire 1500 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2012, at 16:55, Rich Rock wrote: > Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine vacuum > systems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't > present an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did > say that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. > > The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came out > today. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: > > "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and > they create a safety issue if they malfunction". > > Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? > > Rich Rock > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fpspitfire at comcast.net From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 06:21:24 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:21:24 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA In-Reply-To: <8CED51088E335D1-2BE0-24E7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED502C07B00DF-16C4-1B48C@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> <8CED51088E335D1-2BE0-24E7@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I did win a tire selection with Jack recently and it is now in writing of a brouder selection of tires that we may run. It still doesn't accomadate slicks but that wasn't what I was after.I will post the copy if anyone wants it. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Jack Woerhle and I had this discussion a very long time ago. His > response, in > writing, was that anything that kept oil off the track was OK with him at > tech. > > I am still in contact with him from time to time, but he is not on the list > any longer that I am aware of. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: billdentin > To: rikrock ; fot > Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 5:49 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Engine Vacuum System --SCCA > > > <<<- Finally got an answer from SCCA to the question----why are engine > vacuum > ystems which connect to the exhaust system prohibited by SCCA? I didn't > resent an argument in favor of the system in my original letter, but I did > ay that I have seen them in use in cars raced in other series. > The official response is printed in the April issue of FasTrack which came > out > oday. It reads, in its entirety, as follows: > "Thank you for your request. There is no need shown for these systems and > hey create a safety issue if they malfunction". > Does anyone think we can win this "argument"? ->>> > > tend to agree with Russ Moore's take on any battle with SCCA. > While I sure do not have one, and have no real desire for one, > I'd be interested in Jack Woerhle's take if he is still monitoring > this FOT List. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 07:40:54 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:40:54 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: group 3 tires In-Reply-To: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC009F@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC009F@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Deanes, Robert Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:36 AM Subject: FW: group 3 tires To: Robert Deanes ** ** ** ** *From:* Jack Woehrle [mailto:jwoesvra at aol.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 10:56 PM *To:* Deanes, Robert *Cc:* Steve Bonk *Subject:* Re: group 3 tires**** ** ** I have updated the Vintage Production Category to include the Toyo R888 and Yokohama A048.**** ** ** -- rob deanes TR Racer /local/mailman/lynxXXXX0SVjoa: Permission denied [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of VRR Vintage Production Category (VP).pdf] From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 10:18:35 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:18:35 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: group 3 tires In-Reply-To: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC0227@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E09453D2ABC0227@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Deanes, Robert Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:14 PM Subject: FW: group 3 tires To: Robert Deanes ** ** ** ** *From:* Jack Woehrle [mailto:jwoesvra at aol.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 10:56 PM *To:* Deanes, Robert *Cc:* Steve Bonk *Subject:* Re: group 3 tires**** ** ** I have updated the Vintage Production Category to include the Toyo R888 and Yokohama A048.**** ** ** -- rob deanes TR Racer /local/mailman/lynxXXXXC0wZmW: Permission denied [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of VRR Vintage Production Category (VP).pdf] From pvucinic at netspace.net.au Wed Mar 21 16:11:18 2012 From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:11:18 +1100 Subject: [Fot] Team TSOA 2nd in Relay Event Message-ID: TEAM Triumph Sports Owners Associating, Victoria Australia had another fantastic race result! http://www.tsoavic.com/ REPORT ON SANDOWN 6 HOUR REGULARITY RELAY 26th February, 2012. This is the third time The Porsche Club of Victoria has run a Regularity Relay at Sandown. This year other clubs were invited to participate, which broadened the interest in the event, and as the results showed it was not dominated by Porsche teams. In fact, out of 23 teams there were 9 non Porsche, with Holden, Jaguar, Triumph, Alfa, and mixed teams making up the grid. Each driver did a fantastic job with VERY FEW laps under the nominated times, which reflected in the final results. There were NO mechanical problems, so the cars ran faultlessly during the event, so each driver had their share of track time. The final results were: First: The Colonel's Men (Porsches) 56.5762 points, Second: TEAM TRIUMPH 56.5116 Third : Autocure Motor Sport (Holdens) 54.0254 What a fantastic result for us, and this, added to a previous win at Winton a couple of years ago, and good placings at Phillip Island, keeps TSOA up with the best. We don't need $300,000 cars to be competitive! Sandown History: History - Built in the early 60's, Sandown's Motor Circuit has long stood as the premium car racing circuit in Melbourne. Names such as Fangio, Moss, Brabham, Brock, Skaife and Richards all having competing round the fast and famous circuit. http://www.sandown.net.au/ Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums From edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com Wed Mar 21 16:48:54 2012 From: edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com (Edward Dunn) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:48:54 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Battery Message-ID: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0177226A3993@TITAN.dwholdings.local> In my wife's Formula Vee, we use an Odyssey PC680. Paid $125 at batterymart.com Ed Edward Dunn Quality Fuel Trailer & Tank, Inc. 1611 S. Rancho Santa Fe Road, Suite C San Marcos, CA 92078 800-509-1904 x.12 [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD077A.1EC4A220] Made In America [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] From gasket.works at verizon.net Wed Mar 21 23:09:28 2012 From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:09:28 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fw: FoT Message-ID: <9EDC0E7F3DCD4D5A8CED041B90E7ACD5@hp2572664f9a91> Mordy M.N.Dunst Gasket Works USA, LLC www.Headgasket.com Dunroth Farms, Inc Capt. Black's Beef Jerky Capt. Black's Hot Sauce 626.358.1616 ph1 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax Triple R Munitions, Inc. Class 6 Certified F.F.L. 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax GMT - 8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Dunn To: gasket.works at gte.net Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: FoT To whom may be concerned: I am hereby submitting my application for membership to the Friends of Triumph. I think it is a mere possibility that with a few years of counsel and servitude I could be an asset to the organization. Please allow me to expound on why it might not be a completely grievous decision to induct me into the fold. 1. I am the Automobilist. I obtained my first car at age three. I believe this qualifies me as the person who has owned a car for a greater percentage of his life than anyone with a quarter mile or so. The beast that started it all: a 1940 Pontiac coupe, left to me by my dear late grandmother. I kept the Pontiac until I turned 16, then did a "schlock" restoration on it, of extremely poor quality. Shortly afterward, I sold the car to a rube, and bought a 1968 Mustang GTCS. By the time I had turned 21, I had owned 22 cars. List upon request. 2. I learned to drive in a 1952 MG TD. In 1990, I somehow convinced my aged father to let me "borrow" the MG and "fix it up". Three years later, my wife and I had struggled through a complete restoration. Regrettably (for my father) the car turned out perfect, and was never returned to him. Pity. Most recently, the beautiful TD was our beautiful daughter's wedding getaway car. 3. I write an extremely good automotive blog, with over three followers. Impactful, insightful, and self-absorbed. 4. I am a member of the well known Secret Car Club. As you undoubtedly are aware, this is by invitation only. It is non-marque-denominational, and exceedingly posh. We conduct many extremely exciting runs & events, often involving lemon or German chocolate cake. 5. As a retired airline captain, (although still really quite young) I have commanded large, very large conveyances with many people eating peanuts and drinking soda in the cabin. I was actually quite good at this. 6. I have almost owned a Triumph in the past. In high school, I stole, borrowed my brother in law's TR4A, and drove it until he found out about it a couple weeks later. 7. I do own a Triumph currently. A beautiful blue GT6 Mk3. 1971 vintage. Purchased from one Steve Smith, of the Las Vegas, Nevada, Smiths. Apparently, Mr. Smith fancies himself as a sort of Triumph hobbyist, and holds certain acclaim in vintage racing circles. Seemed like a decent fellow to me. I have a scheme to have the GT6 properly prepared, and then somehow achieve vintage racing domination with it. Or, possibly complete a race weekend without it puking its guts out. 8. I have met many Triumph owners of high (and low) acclaim: Kas Kastner, Jerry Barker, Joe Alexander, John Nikas, Joe Siam, Chuck Gee, etc. Please take my application under serious consideration. If a small cash donation ($5-10 or so) is needed to grease the skids of membership, so be it. I also may know some people who can get things "done", if that helps. Respectfully submitted, Edward E. Dunn Encinitas, CA From lunkercars at earthlink.net Thu Mar 22 10:02:47 2012 From: lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg ''Lunker'' Hilyer) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:02:47 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fw: FoT/ Ed Dunn In-Reply-To: <9EDC0E7F3DCD4D5A8CED041B90E7ACD5@hp2572664f9a91> References: <9EDC0E7F3DCD4D5A8CED041B90E7ACD5@hp2572664f9a91> Message-ID: <82575463-0FE4-4227-9A60-386200CC2412@earthlink.net> > 6. I have almost owned a Triumph in the past. In high school, > I stole, > borrowed my brother in law's TR4A, and drove it until he found out > about it a > couple weeks later. Ed, "Drive it like you stole it" is a prerequisite for making a Triumph go fast. Sounds like you've got that part down. Welcome! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From mike.mehl at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 21:03:24 2012 From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Spax adjustable shocks for sale - TR4 Message-ID: <1332471804.30439.YahooMailNeo@web46102.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have a like new pair of TR4 front shocks for sale. They were just checked on a Shock Dyno. The Dyno data will be supplied with the shocks. $130 for the pair plus shipping. Mike Mehl let me know. From tarch at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 23 08:59:37 2012 From: tarch at bellsouth.net (Richard Taylor) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:59:37 -0400 Subject: [Fot] The Mitty Message-ID: <007801cd0905$915a40b0$b40ec210$@net> OK fellow FOTers, the cherry pickin's over. Ole 196 (TR-4A) rides again! I've come out from under my rock, ordered some secret go-fast equipment (like a new harness, Hans device and bake pads) and have registered for the Mitty. I truly look forward to reinforcing many old friendships and making a bunch of new ones. You guys are an exceptional gaggle. Let the games begin! It's going to be a lot of fun! Richard Richard L. Taylor, Jr., FAIA TAYLOR ARCHITECTURE 112 Krog St. Suite 196 Atlanta, Georgia, 30307 tel: (404) 223-1313 fax: (404) 223-1312 mobile: (404) 660-4920 www.taylor-architecture.com From atr6racer at hotmail.com Fri Mar 23 14:42:37 2012 From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:42:37 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 15x7 TR6 Wheels Message-ID: I ordered a set of new Rota wheels (Panasport imitations) for my TR6 and received the wrong color. Instead of having a polished rim I got a complete flat black wheel. And instead of sending them back (triple shipping costs) I kept them and ordered the correct color and trim wheel. So I'm offering a set of 15x7 4x114.3MM (4 1/2) 4mm postive offset flat black Rota wheels. I'll bring them to the Mitty if anyone is interested. Brand new never mounted still in boxes. $500.00 Sam Halkias [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Fri Mar 23 15:31:38 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:31:38 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Any interest, spit parts Message-ID: Amici, Time to thin the parts out. I have an OD trans from a 72 spit. Been sitting for about 20 years. It goes spin. No other guarantees. $200 Non-OD trans, single rail and other type. $100 each Full length floor pans for Spit or GT6. New purchased about 15 years ago. Some slight surface rust. Dusty shipping box included. $200 for the pair 74 spit frame. Painted black with no rust or problems. $150 74 spit doors. No rust fully loaded with glass and such. Primer painted over blue color. $75 for both. 74 trunk lid. Some rust around rear edge. $50 74 bonnet. One rust hole where sub frame mounts. Dents along top fender ridge. $100 74 body tub. Needs floorboards, and some rust repair. FREE I have diffs (stock, nothing special), engines, suspension pieces, leaf springs, and other tidly bits. All prices are negotiable. Items are in Southern NJ. I can ship some of the parts but would prefer pick up. If you need some other parts or want pictures email me off list. Thanks From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Fri Mar 23 18:01:19 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:01:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 15x7 TR6 Wheels References: Message-ID: <98840DE343B047AEA7B9CBC28A6057F0@owner8914bbf7f> Sam, other than the wrong color, how do you like the ROTA's? I bought a set last year and they seem fine, straight and true. Good looking wheel. And a decent price. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Halkias" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 4:42 PM Subject: [Fot] 15x7 TR6 Wheels >I ordered a set of new Rota wheels (Panasport imitations) for my TR6 and > received the wrong color. Instead of having a polished rim I got a > complete > flat black wheel. And instead of sending them back (triple shipping costs) > I > kept them and ordered the correct color and trim wheel. So I'm offering a > set > of 15x7 4x114.3MM (4 1/2) 4mm postive offset flat black Rota wheels. > I'll > bring them to the Mitty if anyone is interested. Brand new never mounted > still > in boxes. $500.00 > > Sam Halkias > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From tjwakeman at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 16:13:57 2012 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:13:57 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR3 stuff now on ebay Message-ID: <4F6E4725.2060503@gmail.com> Sorry for bombing the whole list but someone asked to let them know when I listed the TR3 steering assembly on ebay and I can not find their email to let them know it is now listed. Here is what I put up: - TR3A lower steering assembly including a split shaft steering box rebuilt by The Roadster Factory less than 20,000 miles ago with all new guts, including a new peg and worm gear. - Factory TR3 jack -factory TR3 lug nut wrench - New old stock TR3 optional ash tray - A pair of unlabeled Hooter style horns I took off the TR3. I don't know if they are original or aftermarket but they are tested and work. Teriann From mark at bradakis.com Sat Mar 24 18:25:33 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:25:33 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Thanks, Bobby! Message-ID: <4F6E65FD.4080108@bradakis.com> Nice pics you posted on Facebook from Group 44. mjb. From edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com Sun Mar 25 13:55:11 2012 From: edunn at qualityfueltrailers.com (Edward Dunn) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:55:11 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Supplemental oil lines Message-ID: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0177226A39C5@TITAN.dwholdings.local> I hope this message comes across well, the FoT formatting doesn't seem to carry over from MS Word well. Forgive me of it is indecipherable and/or incomprehensible... I'm finally assembling a Kastner Octopus system for my GT6. I'm assembling an octopus using the aluminum manifold Steve Smith gave me. I'm plumbing it with Parker Push-Lok hose & fittings, which are rated to 350 psi and the hose bends easier than braided steel. I'll back the ends up with hose clamps too. Opinions of the correctness of this? A lot of oil plumbing under the hood: * -10 oil cooler lines * remote oil filter mounted on firewall * oil pressure gauge line * oil temp gauge line * -10 Accusump feed line & anti-backflow valve * -10 main oil supply line Fittings, adapters, tee's, etc... Big VARA race weekend coming right up at Willow Springs. Kas featured all Triumph race, enduro, and I hope a good amount of madcap antics & wacky hijinx. Ed Dunn From igofaster at att.net Sun Mar 25 20:59:32 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] camping at the Mitty Message-ID: <1332730772.46208.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> having been to Road Atlanta as a spectator but never as a driver... my group from Texas is a 'camp at the track' unit... so ... I looked at the generic map of Road Atlanta and there a 2-3 infield camping areas. Looks to be one camping area outside on the west side of the track. So... with my camping done with me sleeping inside my car hauler, what can I expect. Will I drop off my car at a covered space and then drag my trailer to the camp site or what.... thanks for the help.. Bobby Whitehead From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Mon Mar 26 06:13:36 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:13:36 -0400 Subject: [Fot] camping at the Mitty References: <1332730772.46208.YahooMailRC@web180820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bobby, and the rest of you guys wondering about this... You can camp where ever you want, but most racers stay in the paddock. For those of you tent camping, be aware we are in the Pro Paddock, and that area is 100% paved. Also, as we are on asphalt, no tent stakes can be driven into the ground, so come prepared to have your canopies anchored some other way! And Bobby, I am not sure what arrangements you may have made about a "covered space", but everyone is responsible for providing their own weather protection for their race car! Hopefully, our canopies will only be needed to block the sun... Cheers Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: [Fot] camping at the Mitty > having been to Road Atlanta as a spectator but never as a driver... my > group > from Texas is a 'camp at the track' unit... so ... I looked at the generic > map > of Road Atlanta and there a 2-3 infield camping areas. Looks to be one > camping > area outside on the west side of the track. > So... with my camping done with me sleeping inside my car hauler, what can > I > expect. Will I drop off my car at a covered space and then drag my trailer > to > the camp site or what.... From walt at hot-tr6.com Mon Mar 26 08:46:09 2012 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:46:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Gears and water pumps Message-ID: <004d01cd0b5f$2fb19be0$8f14d3a0$@hot-tr6.com> Two topics. #1. Does anyone at FOT know of a source of new, good quality, 4:11 to 1 ring and pinion gears for TR4,6? If so do you have an idea of how much they sell for? #2. Is it cost effective to have a water pump from a TR6 or other Triumphs rebuilt or should I just keep buying new ones? I have a handful of old pumps and I don't know why I keep them. Thank You, Walt Hollowell Abq., NM From jhd11 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 27 07:40:26 2012 From: jhd11 at hotmail.com (Joe Henry) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:40:26 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Message-ID: Good Morning, I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a Feature race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race scheduled for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? Thanks. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 27 07:56:40 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEDA38917804BA-970-21BA@webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com> Henry, maybe you could post the SCHEDULE, as you know it, on the FOT WEBSITE. At least the schedule for TRIUMPH opportunities....have we achieved our own run group? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Joe Henry To: fot Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 8:45 am Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Good Morning, I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a Feature race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race scheduled for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? Thanks. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Tue Mar 27 08:44:15 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:44:15 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule References: Message-ID: <0FA604F4979F48CF89D988C8A49FE465@TRIUMPH.local> Joe, I was unaware HSR finally got the provisional schedule posted. Thanks for the heads up. Our times are Friday 11:35 - Practive 4:40 - Practive 5:30 - Enduro Saturday 8:15 - Qualifying 12:45 - Grid the Kastner Cup Race 1:05 - Kastner Cup race goes off Sunday 4:30 - Group 1 Feature Race Remember, for an additional 1/2 entry fee, the same car can enter HSR's normal group, and get another 5 sessions! Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Henry" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:40 AM Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule > Good Morning, > I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a > Feature > race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race > scheduled > for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? > Thanks. > > Joe Downer > Charlotte, N.C. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04 at tr4racer.com From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Mar 27 08:55:11 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:55:11 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DFCA926DE434C8491A7F9AD2DBD7AFC@gdhs.local> Who knows? It is not clear wether we get to run in the regular HSR classes & the small bore enduro or not. Does anyone have the answer???? Also....is it manditory that TR's pit in the so called "pro-pits"? That could be a bit of a problem for me with the TR3 and Historic Cup car in the same rig. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Henry Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:40 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Good Morning, I was reviewing the Mitty schedule (on HSR website) and noticed a Feature race on Sunday for Group 1 (Triumph). Is this an additional race scheduled for us? Are there other opportunities for track time during the weekend? Thanks. Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From harmug at us.ibm.com Tue Mar 27 12:30:08 2012 From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:30:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 64, Issue 37 Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From the HSR website http://www.hsrrace.com/2012_Events/3_Mitty_Apr_26_29/Event_Info/Mitty_Schedule.pdf see you all there 63 Spit #7 G. Michael Harmuth From mnewman at embarqmail.com Tue Mar 27 13:32:44 2012 From: mnewman at embarqmail.com (William T newman) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:32:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule Message-ID: <1521068153.1271941.1332876764752.JavaMail.root@md23.embarq.synacor.com> I made a phone call to Judy at HSR about a month ago just after the registration became available. She told me that us Triumph folks will have our own run group, but can also race the Dash series for our HSR class and can also run the Small Bore Enduro. This is lots of track time if you want it. You may want to call her to confirm what she told me. I will be calling her soon to confirm my car # and if we will be for sure using the pro paddock. Look for me to arrive on Thursday with GT6 #44. Bill Newman From n197tr4 at cs.com Tue Mar 27 14:19:42 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] FOT SWAP MEET THE MITTY TR6 SHORT BLOCK Message-ID: <8CEDA6E14154C1F-994-4884@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com> i have a tr6 block with crank, pistons and rods assembled in it. if any one is strongly interested, i will drag this assembly to the mitty. contact me off list. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From cartravel at pobox.com Tue Mar 27 17:49:45 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:49:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Message-ID: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> I'm in the midst of my TR250 restoration. I want to warm up the engine, so the hardwired carbs will not do. I know Richard Good sells a system to convert the non adjustable ones, but would it be better to just get a set from a different year? I've already bought a set of TR4a Strombergs, since they are simple and adjustable. Is there a better choice if you want a good carb that is adjustable for tuning mods? I'm trying to keep the looks of this car original, so I don't want SU's, PI or Webers, just good adjustable Strombergs.. Thanks, Larry Young From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Mar 27 18:52:43 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:52:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs References: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> Message-ID: <7EA7BDA9045142F2A5F381C7A72C1AF3@owner8914bbf7f> Larry, that's what I'm running on my TR6, a set of ZS from an earlier TR4. 1 3/4, with the adjustment screw in the bottom of the bowl. Seem to work fine for me, and cost effective (cheap!) The biggest cost was the overhaul kits. And I had to fabricate some linkage. No biggie. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" To: "FOT" Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:49 PM Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > I'm in the midst of my TR250 restoration. I want to warm up the engine, > so the hardwired carbs will not do. I know Richard Good sells a system to > convert the non adjustable ones, but would it be better to just get a set > from a different year? I've already bought a set of TR4a Strombergs, > since they are simple and adjustable. Is there a better choice if you > want a good carb that is adjustable for tuning mods? I'm trying to keep > the looks of this car original, so I don't want SU's, PI or Webers, just > good adjustable Strombergs.. > Thanks, > Larry Young > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From igofaster at att.net Tue Mar 27 19:49:10 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule In-Reply-To: <1521068153.1271941.1332876764752.JavaMail.root@md23.embarq.synacor.com> References: <1521068153.1271941.1332876764752.JavaMail.root@md23.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <1332899350.75774.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Bill... I too will be coming in Wednesday night or early Thursday morning... would like to 'pit' with the GT6's .. FoT.... looking at the HSR provisional schedule what group would I be in the the DP Triumph GT-6+ .. 2.0 liter engine? Do we need to reserve an area in the pro paddock with HSR or Road Atlanta? ... money for the paddock? Bobby Whitehead #39 DP Triumph GT-6+ ________________________________ From: William T newman To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, March 27, 2012 2:32:44 PM Subject: [Fot] Mitty Schedule I made a phone call to Judy at HSR about a month ago just after the registration became available. She told me that us Triumph folks will have our own run group, but can also race the Dash series for our HSR class and can also run the Small Bore Enduro. This is lots of track time if you want it. You may want to call her to confirm what she told me. I will be calling her soon to confirm my car # and if we will be for sure using the pro paddock. Look for me to arrive on Thursday with GT6 #44. Bill Newman _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From spyderweb at uwalumni.com Tue Mar 27 19:49:22 2012 From: spyderweb at uwalumni.com (Jim Hill) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:49:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 Body Panels Message-ID: Fellow Triumphphisti -- Now that my TR6 race car has been sold, I have no need for the fibreglass body panels that I'd bought for use in case of an accident. FortunateIy I had no shunts and so the body panels are are no longer needed and need a better home than my garage in Madison, Wisconsin. Anyone interested can contact me for details at: spyderweb at uwalumni.com or by phone at 608-259-0507 Thanks, Jim Hill From mark at bradakis.com Tue Mar 27 23:02:10 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:02:10 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> References: <4F725219.7080300@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4F729B52.4080706@bradakis.com> Adjustable 175 Strombergs were also available on early Sunbeam Alpines. mjb. From gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Wed Mar 28 02:33:40 2012 From: gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:33:40 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Message-ID: The carbs that came on Sunbeam Alpines were 150 CD, 1 1/2" throttle bore. Using the 175 CD carbs 0n a TR-6 can certainly be done successfully, but be sure to change the mixture needles. Using the TR-4 needles on a 2.5 liter engine will result in to rich a mixture that will end up washing down the cylinders with fuel and premature engine wear. The larger engine "sucks harder" on the carburetors. The vacuum generated over the jet goes up as the square of the air velocity. The carbs have no "air corrector" jet to prevent the mixture going overly rich at high load, ie. high intake air velocity. Leaner needles need to be fitted. Compare the needle profile of the 2A needle in the TR-4 carb with that of the needle in a TR-6 carb. The difference is not all because of emissions. Greg Solow The Engine Room Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, CA 95060 831 429-1800 ------- Original Message ------- >From : Mark J Bradakis[mailto:mark at bradakis.com] Sent : 3/27/2012 10:02:10 PM To : fot at autox.team.net Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Adjustable 175 Strombergs were also available on early Sunbeam Alpines. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Mar 28 05:57:49 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I cannot confirm that (yet). In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 28 06:10:00 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs with the use of shim stock. thought i would mention it, anyway. it provides a lot of choices Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: gregmogdoc Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs Hi, Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I cannot confirm that (yet). In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From rfdeanes at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 07:09:07 2012 From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:09:07 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Joe Curto can help you out with the needles On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs > with > the use of shim stock. > > thought i would mention it, anyway. > > it provides a lot of choices > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert M. Lang > To: gregmogdoc > Cc: fot > Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > Hi, > > Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with > Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote > down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I > cannot confirm that (yet). > > In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm > that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. > > In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. > > The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on > the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes at gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Mar 28 07:39:14 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Robert Deanes wrote: > Joe Curto can help you out with the needles Oddly enough, when I called Joe C. and gave him my engine specs, he wasn't really able to suggest anything. I had seen a suggestion for the B1AR, so I bought those... Poking around a bit more on the web this morning, I got some ideas on what to look for, but I have to measure what I have first before I will be buying anything. I know about the SU needles too. The fact that there are so many choices was the basis of the query. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Mar 28 08:34:12 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:34:12 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7927218D8B144624A88445597D12E8BD@Charly> Interesting that the Jag needle is the preferred choice. When I was running carbs on my TR6 I made my own needles using the specs for a Jag 3.8 motor, my thinking was that I wanted my 6 to run like a Jag. Reshaping a needle is fairly easy, chuck up the needle in a drill and use some emery cloth to shape it as you rotate it. I created a gauge with marks on it every 1/8" to measure the diameter as I went. very easy to do and worked very well, nice to have a couple of extra needles to experiment with. Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: "Robert Deanes" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Robert Deanes wrote: > >> Joe Curto can help you out with the needles > > Oddly enough, when I called Joe C. and gave him my engine specs, he wasn't > really able to suggest anything. I had seen a suggestion for the B1AR, so > I bought those... > > Poking around a bit more on the web this morning, I got some ideas on what > to look for, but I have to measure what I have first before I will be > buying anything. > > I know about the SU needles too. The fact that there are so many choices > was the basis of the query. > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com From BillDentin at aol.com Wed Mar 28 11:24:58 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... Message-ID: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> Dear Henry, et al... I have very limited HSR racing experience (Sebring, etc), but looking over the Provisional Schedule that they have posted on their website for the MITTY, I am concerned about TECH. I can find no reference to TECH being available on either Wednesday or Thursday. That sure would be a surprise to me. It is listed on Friday between 7:30 AM and 5:00 PM, which hardly seems sufficient to accommodate their ambitious racing schedule that starts on Friday at 8 AM. A bright note is our first scheduled session is not until 11:35 AM, but that still strikes me as a potential issue. We have enough prep issues to deal with, without long lines for TECH. TECH is also listed for 8:00 AM until noon on Saturday, but not thereafter. That may not be an issue as TECH is often 'as needed or by appointment' thereafter at an event. But it sure seems like there ought to be TECH opportunities on both Wednesday and Thursday. I don't know about HSR, but her ex-sister, SVRA, used to allow special TECH provisions in the competition paddock at their events for the featured marque (that'd be us here). Any chance that could/would happen here? Could/would HSR assign TECH people to scrutinize our cars in the competition paddock? Likewise in recent years there's been a movement to 'involve a self-TECH' during the official TECH process. With people they trusted to do it correctly, they'd provide the TECH form, you'd TECH your own car, sign that you had done so, and be given a TECH sticker. Any chance this or a similar process might be considered for the MITTY. I am NOT trying to get out of anything, nor avoid scrutiny... rather just trying to encourage a reasonable, efficient TECH process here. Just thinking out loud. Bill Dentinger From jhhasty at gdhs.com Wed Mar 28 11:39:09 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:39:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... In-Reply-To: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> References: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> Message-ID: <8AA3AA15F7BF4687847056C8198A6A63@gdhs.local> The schedule I have shows Tec on Thursday 7 to 5, on Friday 7 to 5 and our first practice on Friday @8:40. I checked with the HSR tec. Guy and he will honor any recognized group's annual tec and only require that you bring your helmet and Hans device to tec along with your log book showing the annual and no write ups since. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:25 PM To: henry at henryfrye.com Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... Dear Henry, et al... I have very limited HSR racing experience (Sebring, etc), but looking over the Provisional Schedule that they have posted on their website for the MITTY, I am concerned about TECH. I can find no reference to TECH being available on either Wednesday or Thursday. That sure would be a surprise to me. It is listed on Friday between 7:30 AM and 5:00 PM, which hardly seems sufficient to accommodate their ambitious racing schedule that starts on Friday at 8 AM. A bright note is our first scheduled session is not until 11:35 AM, but that still strikes me as a potential issue. We have enough prep issues to deal with, without long lines for TECH. TECH is also listed for 8:00 AM until noon on Saturday, but not thereafter. That may not be an issue as TECH is often 'as needed or by appointment' thereafter at an event. But it sure seems like there ought to be TECH opportunities on both Wednesday and Thursday. I don't know about HSR, but her ex-sister, SVRA, used to allow special TECH provisions in the competition paddock at their events for the featured marque (that'd be us here). Any chance that could/would happen here? Could/would HSR assign TECH people to scrutinize our cars in the competition paddock? Likewise in recent years there's been a movement to 'involve a self-TECH' during the official TECH process. With people they trusted to do it correctly, they'd provide the TECH form, you'd TECH your own car, sign that you had done so, and be given a TECH sticker. Any chance this or a similar process might be considered for the MITTY. I am NOT trying to get out of anything, nor avoid scrutiny... rather just trying to encourage a reasonable, efficient TECH process here. Just thinking out loud. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Wed Mar 28 11:58:08 2012 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Tech at the Mitty References: <8c6d6.319ab30f.3ca4a36a@aol.com> Message-ID: <4841EEB638B24DD887140DEB26205627@TRIUMPH.local> HSR has promised to send a tech guy over to us at the Pro Pits. I will try top find out when we can expect to see him, and will report back to everyone. Henry yellow04 at tr4racer.com From BillDentin at aol.com Wed Mar 28 11:59:18 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... Message-ID: <8dbd4.6f230ceb.3ca4ab76@aol.com> In a message dated 03/28/2012 11:39:18 AM Central Standard Time, jhhasty at gdhs.com writes: > The schedule I have shows Tec on Thursday 7 to 5, on Friday 7 to 5 and > our > first practice on Friday @8:40. I checked with the HSR tec. Guy and he > will > honor any recognized group's annual tec and only require that you bring > your > helmet and Hans device to tec along with your log book showing the annual > and no write ups since. > Interesting. What you are describing sure makes more sense. Ironically my copy is pretty fresh. I downloaded it from the HSR website just last night. It lists Practice Group 8 Historic Stock Cars at 8:40 AM and the TRIUMPHS (Group 1) at 11:35 on Friday, I am sure it will all get sorted out, and I am encouraged to hear HSR has a portability policy in place with regard to Annual Tech by other sanctioning groups. Good for HSR. Bill Dentinger From jhhasty at gdhs.com Wed Mar 28 12:06:29 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:06:29 -0400 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... In-Reply-To: <8dbd4.6f230ceb.3ca4ab76@aol.com> References: <8dbd4.6f230ceb.3ca4ab76@aol.com> Message-ID: <36455152E0EF4BD9B5881474CC4B3492@gdhs.local> you are correct.....it'ss 11:35 my mistake we have a cup car too and I looked at the wrong time.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _____ From: BillDentin at aol.com [mailto:BillDentin at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:59 PM To: jhhasty at gdhs.com; henry at henryfrye.com Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2012 Mitty @ Road Atlanta... In a message dated 03/28/2012 11:39:18 AM Central Standard Time, jhhasty at gdhs.com writes: The schedule I have shows Tec on Thursday 7 to 5, on Friday 7 to 5 and our first practice on Friday @8:40. I checked with the HSR tec. Guy and he will honor any recognized group's annual tec and only require that you bring your helmet and Hans device to tec along with your log book showing the annual and no write ups since. Interesting. What you are describing sure makes more sense. Ironically my copy is pretty fresh. I downloaded it from the HSR website just last night. It lists Practice Group 8 Historic Stock Cars at 8:40 AM and the TRIUMPHS (Group 1) at 11:35 on Friday, I am sure it will all get sorted out, and I am encouraged to hear HSR has a portability policy in place with regard to Annual Tech by other sanctioning groups. Good for HSR. Bill Dentinger From kaskas at cox.net Wed Mar 28 12:31:10 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:31:10 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <7927218D8B144624A88445597D12E8BD@Charly> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com>, , <7927218D8B144624A88445597D12E8BD@Charly> Message-ID: Making a new needle in a drill press or other is not a big job, BUT, making a matching needle is a BIG DEAL. Be certfain to take measurments along the needle so you at least have a half chance of making a matching pair of needles. this is nearly as sensative for a street machine as a race car. Somehere in on of my books I explained how make a device to do all this with some deegree of accuracy. Never be beaten by equipment > From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com > To: lang at isis.mit.edu; rfdeanes at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:34:12 -0700 > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > Interesting that the Jag needle is the preferred choice. When I was running > carbs on my TR6 I made my own needles using the specs for a Jag 3.8 motor, > my thinking was that I wanted my 6 to run like a Jag. > Reshaping a needle is fairly easy, chuck up the needle in a drill and use > some emery cloth to shape it as you rotate it. I created a gauge with marks > on it every 1/8" to measure the diameter as I went. very easy to do and > worked very well, nice to have a couple of extra needles to experiment with. > > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert M. Lang" > To: "Robert Deanes" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Robert Deanes wrote: > > > >> Joe Curto can help you out with the needles > > > > Oddly enough, when I called Joe C. and gave him my engine specs, he wasn't > > really able to suggest anything. I had seen a suggestion for the B1AR, so > > I bought those... > > > > Poking around a bit more on the web this morning, I got some ideas on what > > to look for, but I have to measure what I have first before I will be > > buying anything. > > > > I know about the SU needles too. The fact that there are so many choices > > was the basis of the query. > > > > regards, > > rml > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > Former NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas at cox.net From cartravel at pobox.com Wed Mar 28 13:21:25 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:21:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> Is the shim stock used to make the diameter of the end larger? Please explain. There are lists and even a little Windows program for all the SU needles. Is similar data available for the Stromberg needles? I have reshaped SU needles as suggested. I made some that worked well and then ordered a matching set from Joe Curto. Thanks, Larry On 3/28/2012 7:10 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs with > the use of shim stock. > > thought i would mention it, anyway. > > it provides a lot of choices > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert M. Lang > To: gregmogdoc > Cc: fot > Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > Hi, > > Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with > Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote > down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I > cannot confirm that (yet). > > In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm > that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. > > In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. > > The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on > the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com From kaskas at cox.net Wed Mar 28 13:46:33 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:46:33 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> References: , , <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com>, <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> Message-ID: I explain this in one of my early books. How to use an SU needle in a Stromberg carb: The difference in the shank of each needle is .013". The SU being the smaller. So I made a little tube out of .006" shim stock cut in half length wise which left me a half tube. Fit the half tube around the needle shank with the open side of the tube towards the grub screw which hold the needle in position. You will never notice the .0005" differnce in the diameters. I did this first in 1968 and works just as well today. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:21:25 -0500 > From: cartravel at pobox.com > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > Is the shim stock used to make the diameter of the end larger? Please > explain. > > There are lists and even a little Windows program for all the SU > needles. Is similar data available for the Stromberg needles? > > I have reshaped SU needles as suggested. I made some that worked well > and then ordered a matching set from Joe Curto. > Thanks, > Larry > > On 3/28/2012 7:10 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > i think most folks know that SU needles can be used in Stromberg carbs with > > the use of shim stock. > > > > thought i would mention it, anyway. > > > > it provides a lot of choices > > > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > A. R. E. > > 645 1st Street > > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > > 319.464.4711 (cell) > > n197tr4 at cs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert M. Lang > > To: gregmogdoc > > Cc: fot > > Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:58 am > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Speaking of which - what needles are folks using in their TR6's with > > Strombergs? I installed alternate needles a while back, and never wrote > > down what they are. I'm pretty sure they're B1AR's from a Jag, but I > > cannot confirm that (yet). > > > > In any case, these needles seem to be a tad rich and I need to confirm > > that with a couple of chassis dyno runs. > > > > In the meantime, I'd appreciate any feedback on the matter. > > > > The following is an interesting article on replacing the fixed needles on > > the early c cylinder federal spec. carbs (TR250 and early TR6): > > > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Carbs/AdjNeedle/AdjNeedle.htm > > > > regards, > > rml > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > Former NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas at cox.net From tr4racing at googlemail.com Wed Mar 28 15:49:05 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:49:05 +0200 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> Is Jim Lee known to the group? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q Cheers Chris From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Wed Mar 28 16:15:37 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:15:37 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> Message-ID: <26C5683C-4C89-4DF0-A6FF-51155D4D02BD@austin.rr.com> Yes, he's a Texas guy. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Is Jim Lee known to the group? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From igofaster at att.net Wed Mar 28 16:18:32 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> Message-ID: <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> dang.... I was crying!!! awesome! Bobby ________________________________ From: MadMarx To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 4:49:05 PM Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee Is Jim Lee known to the group? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From cartravel at pobox.com Wed Mar 28 17:39:31 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:39:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Best Stromberg Carbs In-Reply-To: References: , , <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com>, <4F7364B5.2020604@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4F73A133.3040100@pobox.com> Kas, I'm sure I speak for others as well, but there is just too much in your books to keep it all in my feeble brain. Thank you for writing it down. On 3/28/2012 2:46 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > I explain this in one of my early books. How to use an SU needle in a > Stromberg carb: The difference in the shank of each needle is > .013". The SU being the smaller. So I made a little tube out of .006" > shim stock cut in half length wise which left me a half tube. Fit the > half tube around the needle shank with the open side of the tube > towards the grub screw which hold the needle in position. You will > never notice the .0005" differnce in the diameters. I did this first > in 1968 and works just as well today. > > Never be beaten by equipment From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Wed Mar 28 17:45:23 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:45:23 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jim still has that TR4. He comes to TWS every once in a while. His brother John is a more regular visitor. The TR4 was John's first but he is a Mini guy now, but not a racer. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > dang.... I was crying!!! awesome! Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: MadMarx > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 4:49:05 PM > Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee > > Is Jim Lee known to the group? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From jason at multivintage.com Wed Mar 28 17:50:59 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:50:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee In-Reply-To: <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8CEDAF2D4A09BFF-1C78-8562@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <001001cd0d2c$9aeedd40$d0cc97c0$@com> <1332973112.49121.YahooMailRC@web180816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just checked my log books. My GT6+ was racing there that weekend. Don't see it in this video though. Probably broke a trans or something.... Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 GT6+ #27 On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > dang.... I was crying!!! awesome! Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: MadMarx > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 4:49:05 PM > Subject: [Fot] Jim Lee > > Is Jim Lee known to the group? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0s8_fXQbD4Q > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From jason at multivintage.com Wed Mar 28 18:58:49 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:58:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy Message-ID: A Moment of Awesomeness. I am lucky to have very detailed visual memory. I just drifted away for moment of awesomeness as I thought about FOT and how cool the Triumph Life has become. All these images of race cars in my head; legendary, old, new. The people and the cars... heroes. Builders, Drivers, Crew, Entrepreneurs, Manufactures, Teachers. Several generations with dedication to Racing Triumphs lurk here and respond in kind. Never has the small Triumph Racing niche been so BIG. The 10th Kastner Cup Race... Road Atlanta... Holy crap. 1 more month. Sending my official entry in the morning. Until then, I'll be in my garage.... getting ready. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Mar 28 19:06:06 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CEDB5F40CAD94B-1C78-DA53@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Pretty profound Jason...... And mostly it has to do with people. The Mitty will bring it all together very nicely. We will miss those who are unable to make it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 7:59 pm Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy A Moment of Awesomeness. I am lucky to have very detailed visual memory. I just drifted away for moment of awesomeness as I thought about FOT and how cool the Triumph Life has become. All these images of race cars in my head; legendary, old, new. The people and the cars... heroes. Builders, Drivers, Crew, Entrepreneurs, Manufactures, Teachers. Several generations with dedication to Racing Triumphs lurk here and respond in kind. Never has the small Triumph Racing niche been so BIG. The 10th Kastner Cup Race... Road Atlanta... Holy crap. 1 more month. Sending my official entry in the morning. Until then, I'll be in my garage.... getting ready. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From horizonracing at msn.com Thu Mar 29 08:58:27 2012 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:58:27 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR hearld Message-ID: Good Day all, I'm in the need of a pair of brake caipler mounts for the Triumph hearld upright or vertal link. please contact me off list. Thank you Tony Garmey From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 29 15:14:31 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION Message-ID: <8CEDC08111B2B7E-E84-13EE@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. re: John Styduhar He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at BEAVERRUN. John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be nice to add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. What say ye, FOT? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu Mar 29 15:16:54 2012 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION Message-ID: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> Another TR3! I second! Welcome John Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. > > re: John Styduhar > > He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. > > His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at > BEAVERRUN. > > John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be > nice to > add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. > > What say ye, FOT? > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Mar 29 15:25:19 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION In-Reply-To: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> References: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> Message-ID: <8CEDC099212A984-E84-1587@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> Thanks Todd! OK John, you are in....and can now compare notes with list members on a global basis. Mark Bradakis..... John Styduhar = johnstydo at gmail.com PLUNK YOUR MAGIC TWANGER, one more time. = -----Original Message----- From: Todd Redmond Subject: RE: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION Another TR3! I second! Welcome John Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. > > re: John Styduhar > > He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. > > His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at > BEAVERRUN. > > John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be > nice to > add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. > > What say ye, FOT? > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com From igofaster at att.net Thu Mar 29 17:08:50 2012 From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1333062530.43416.YahooMailRC@web180818.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> so I'm counting three GT-6's so far with me, Jason, and Bill Newman... is there another one or two? Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 7:58:49 PM Subject: [Fot] The Triumph Legacy A Moment of Awesomeness. I am lucky to have very detailed visual memory. I just drifted away for moment of awesomeness as I thought about FOT and how cool the Triumph Life has become. All these images of race cars in my head; legendary, old, new. The people and the cars... heroes. Builders, Drivers, Crew, Entrepreneurs, Manufactures, Teachers. Several generations with dedication to Racing Triumphs lurk here and respond in kind. Never has the small Triumph Racing niche been so BIG. The 10th Kastner Cup Race... Road Atlanta... Holy crap. 1 more month. Sending my official entry in the morning. Until then, I'll be in my garage.... getting ready. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster at att.net From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 29 18:56:44 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:56:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION In-Reply-To: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> References: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> Message-ID: Great ! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > Another TR3! > > I second! > > Welcome John > > Todd Redmond > 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. >> >> re: John Styduhar >> >> He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. >> >> His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at BEAVERRUN. >> >> John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be nice to >> add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. >> >> What say ye, FOT? >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From jhhasty at gdhs.com Thu Mar 29 18:59:19 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:59:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER CONSTRUCTION In-Reply-To: <8CEDC099212A984-E84-1587@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> References: <171a6c.2a800.13660517c0a.Webtop.8@optonline.net> <8CEDC099212A984-E84-1587@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7469AE77-7435-4C23-9098-76968426D1B1@gdhs.com> Hey John.....just make sure your 3 is not as fast as mine! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Thanks Todd! > > OK John, you are in....and can now compare notes with list members on a global > basis. > > Mark Bradakis..... John Styduhar = johnstydo at gmail.com > > PLUNK YOUR MAGIC TWANGER, one more time. > > > > > > > = > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Redmond > > Subject: RE: [Fot] JOHN STYDUHAR PENNSYLVANIA TR3 VINTAGE RACER UNDER > CONSTRUCTION > > > Another TR3! > > I second! > > Welcome John > > Todd Redmond > 1958 TR3A TS29341 (Still under construction) > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> FOT, I would like to invite John to join our list. >> >> re: John Styduhar >> >> He is in the process of preparing a TR3 for vintage racing. >> >> His expectation is to go to driver's school and run initially at >> BEAVERRUN. >> >> John likely can use our support for a successful launch. It would be >> nice to >> add back another TR3 as it seems like the numbers have diminished. >> >> What say ye, FOT? >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4 at cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty at gdhs.com From mini at wi.rr.com Thu Mar 29 19:31:25 2012 From: mini at wi.rr.com (Richard Gehweiler) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:31:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Repair Shop Message-ID: <4F750CED.5080506@wi.rr.com> We have a customer that has temporarily moved to the south western San Francisco Bay area. We have taken care of her much loved TR6 for years and just shipped it to her from Wisconsin. Any recommendations for a reputable repair shop in that area? She is a very nice person and has been a great customer, but is not very knowledgeable about cars, so we don't want someone who is going to take advantage of her. I will pass any FOT recommendations on to her. Thanks Richard Gehweiler Stonefield Vintage, LLC. From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Thu Mar 29 22:47:01 2012 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:47:01 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Repair Shop In-Reply-To: <4F750CED.5080506@wi.rr.com> References: <4F750CED.5080506@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: That would be Greg Solows territory. jg Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Richard Gehweiler wrote: > We have a customer that has temporarily moved to the south western > San Francisco Bay area. We have taken care of her much loved TR6 for > years and just shipped it to her from Wisconsin. Any recommendations > for a reputable repair shop in that area? She is a very nice person > and has been a great customer, but is not very knowledgeable about > cars, so we don't want someone who is going to take advantage of > her. I will pass any FOT recommendations on to her. > > Thanks > > Richard Gehweiler > Stonefield Vintage, LLC. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sat Mar 31 16:00:23 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fot] Spiitfire rear springs Message-ID: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Group: I again need to borrow from the collective wisdom of the group, this time concerning Spitfire rear leaf springs. I have a customer with a Spit-Six that has excessive positive camber. The rear is built using the higher ratio GT6 diff, an early GT6 rear spring, and early, narrow axles. I am well aware of Kas's recommendation to de-arch the springs on the early non-pivot type spring to 3.5", but what complicates this is that the owner used the GT6 spring, which has eight leafs instead of the seven leafs used in the Spitfire. Obviously the GT6 used the additional leaf to aid in support of the extra weight in the rear, but, I do not know which leaf to remove to make the spring have the same rate as the Spit. I do not have any non-pivot type in the shop to measure the leaf lengths. Do any list members have a Spit non-pivoting leaf spring available to measure the spring lengths? Perhaps a lister has been through this before? I know I will more than likely still have to de-arch the spring, but at least we can get closer to the desired height/rate by removing the unwanted leaf. I also have another question for the group. Perhaps all the engineering degrees are getting in the way of common sense, or vice-verse. If the distance between the eyelets on the spring are X, wouldn't de-arching (flattening out) the spring spread the eyelets further apart (straightening out a curve)? Wouldn't this move the top of the vertical links out farther? Wouldn't that add positive camber? We know we de-arch to add negative camber (we have all seen it happen), but my mind keeps asking why it doesn't go more positive. My son, who is also a Aerospace Engineering student at UTA, and I have put pencil to paper together and come up with the tops of the links moving outward. but nature is contradicting us. Some incite please. Thanks Ed Barnard From tony at tonydrews.com Sat Mar 31 16:16:38 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:16:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head, can it be repaired? Message-ID: I found the source of my "head gasket" leaks - a cracked head. It's cracked around the inner circumference of where it meets the liner in #4 cylinder. Picture is here: http://www.tonydrews.com/Test%20Pics/2012_0331Head_Crack0007.JPG Is this something that can be fixed, or should I start brushing up on my head porting techniques and build another head? Thanks, Tony Drews Hoping to make the Mitty still... From tr6nut at verizon.net Sat Mar 31 16:24:51 2012 From: tr6nut at verizon.net (Hugh Barber) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:24:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spiitfire rear springs In-Reply-To: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F778433.3070809@verizon.net> Ed, We are talking about swing axles. The connection between the hubs and the axles are fixed (there is only a u-joint on the inner end of the axles). Therefore, when you de-arch the spring, you get more negative camber. Hugh Barber On 3/31/2012 06:00, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > ..... > Perhaps all the engineering degrees are getting in the way of common sense, or > vice-verse. If the distance between the eyelets on the spring are X, wouldn't > de-arching (flattening out) the spring spread the eyelets further apart > (straightening out a curve)? Wouldn't this move the top of the vertical links > out farther? Wouldn't that add positive camber? We know we de-arch to add > negative camber (we have all seen it happen), but my mind keeps asking why it > doesn't go more positive. My son, who is also a Aerospace Engineering student > at UTA, and I have put pencil to paper together and come up with the tops of > the links moving outward. but nature is contradicting us. > Some incite please. > Thanks > Ed Barnard From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Mar 31 17:29:07 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head, can it be repaired? In-Reply-To: <20120331223502.1E46E2D08F0@autox.team.net> References: <20120331223502.1E46E2D08F0@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8CEDDAD33DA3455-C50-49CA@webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com> There is a place in Nevada, Iowa that specializes in that kind of repair. Certainly it would be worth having them do the fix. I'll start googling their contact info. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot Sent: Sat, Mar 31, 2012 5:35 pm Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head, can it be repaired? I found the source of my "head gasket" leaks - a cracked head. It's cracked around the inner circumference of where it meets the liner in #4 cylinder. Picture is here: http://www.tonydrews.com/Test%20Pics/2012_0331Head_Crack0007.JPG Is this something that can be fixed, or should I start brushing up on my head porting techniques and build another head? Thanks, Tony Drews Hoping to make the Mitty still... _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Mar 31 17:39:50 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] midwestcylinderhead.com Message-ID: <8CEDDAEB2F6FE43-C50-4A59@webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com> good website..........we have a head we should take there, too. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4 at cs.com From mark at bradakis.com Sat Mar 31 19:20:23 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:20:23 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Spiitfire rear springs In-Reply-To: <4F778433.3070809@verizon.net> References: <1333231223.64084.YahooMailClassic@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4F778433.3070809@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4F77AD57.5050904@bradakis.com> Look at a clock. A good old fashioned round one, with two hands and numbers. Suppose the minute hand is pointing to 4. Suppose the minute hand is your axle, with the wheel perpendicular to it. What would the camber look like? Now suppose the minute hand or axle is pointing to 3, which is a bit further out than the 4. What does that camber look like? mjb.