From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sun Jan 1 11:45:24 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:45:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] timing cover Message-ID: Hi All, I sent out an e-mail yesterday, but it must have been too big to go through. On my TR6 timing cover, I sketched out about where the chain and top gear were located, and used a 3 3/4 inch hole saw to cut a large hole in the timing cover. I drilled some small holes in the cover and brazed some 10-32 machine screws to the inside of the cover, about 3/4 inch long. Facing out naturally. I then took some 1/4 inch aluminum flat stock and cut a 4 3/4 inch round piece. I matched the large piece to the machine screws and drilled holes in the large piece (the cover). And made a gasket to go with it.Threre's a fair amount of room between the chain/sprocket and the cover, so there wasn't a problem with interference with the brazed screws. From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sun Jan 1 11:54:52 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:54:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] page 2 Message-ID: <3598A488B43B45D0B47CA21D1C3F3428@owner8914bbf7f> As Paul Harvey would say, page 2. To change your cam timing, remove the 10-32 nuts holding the round cover on, and remove the cover. The adjustment vernier should be right there. Adjust and replace the cover. Easy job. When I was doing this the first time, I wasn't sure I was right. I talked to Sam Halkias and he said that's what he did! So if Sam does it that way........ I have a friend in Erie who has a metal supply/fabrication business. He lets me scrounge around his scrap metal and sells me what I need. I also have a milling machine, lathe, and other assorted equipment to help me in my projects. Hope this makes sense. Happy New Year. Bill From gaf3 at charter.net Mon Jan 2 04:48:09 2012 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:48:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR 4A or TR250 Body Tub Needed Message-ID: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> groups I'm in the process of what was suppose to be finishing a restoration on a TR250 basket case for a club member. In the process of peeling back the skin on this thing, I have discovered the horrors of incompetence and ignorance. Because the previous owners had no clue as how do body work, at least a 2-3 thousand dollars in sheet metal needs to be replaced. everything from the b posts back and left front corner needs to be replaced. I'm trying to save this car and save the owner some money in the process because it is a TR250 and fairly rare. I have the floors and rocker panels since most of these cars regardless of condition need these replaced anyways. The outer skin is OK as well as the doors. If any of you have or know of a decent boy tub out there or could put your feelers out I would appreciate it. I'm located in Southeast Michigan and will travel within a reasonable distance to pick it up. Thanks in advance Glenn Franco Too Many TR's including 2 TR250's From tr4racing at googlemail.com Mon Jan 2 05:02:34 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:02:34 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Happy New Year! In-Reply-To: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> References: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> Message-ID: <000501ccc946$6b10f970$4132ec50$@com> To all..... Thought was missing at FOT :-) Cheers Chris From jeff_durant at comcast.net Mon Jan 2 08:04:55 2012 From: jeff_durant at comcast.net (jeff_durant at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR 4A or TR250 Body Tub Needed In-Reply-To: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> Message-ID: <1395391705.82883.1325516695223.JavaMail.root@sz0175a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Glenn, I know it's far away but I know of a '67 TR4A tub in good shape in Northern CA.B It is missing a front valance and outer sheet metal but is otherwise is good shape.B B A long way to be shipping to be sure but a good tub. Let me know if nothing else turns up. Regards, Jeff Durant '67 TR4A '68 TR250 '69 TR6 #12 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Franco" To: "Friends of triumph" , 6pack at autox.team.net, snydley at comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 3:48:09 AM Subject: [Fot] TR 4A or TR250 Body Tub Needed groups I'm in the process of what was suppose to be finishing a restoration on a TR250 basket case for a club member. In the process of peeling back the skin B on this thing, I have discovered the horrors of incompetence and ignorance. Because the previous owners had no clue as how do body work, at least a 2-3 thousand dollars in sheet metal needs to be replaced. everything from the b posts back and B left front corner needs to be replaced. I'm trying B to save this car and save the owner some money in the process because it is a TR250 and fairly rare. I have the floors and rocker panels since most of these cars regardless of condition need these replaced anyways. The outer skin is OK as well as the doors. If any of you have or know of a decent boy tub out there or could put your feelers out I would appreciate it. I'm located in Southeast Michigan and will travel within a reasonable distance to pick it up. Thanks in advance Glenn Franco Too Many TR's B including 2 TR250's _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant at comcast.net From loddtr at aol.com Mon Jan 2 12:38:22 2012 From: loddtr at aol.com (loddtr at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:38:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Invitation: Sixth Annual Martha McDougal Triumph Ghetto Event at VIR Message-ID: <8CE979D38C72A61-DDC-7229B@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> The Triumph Ghetto is pleased to announce that they will award the Sixth Annual Martha McDougal Trophy, as part of the 2012 VDCA Wild Hare Run, at Virginia International Raceway. The dates for this year's event are April 13th through the 15th. Mark your calendar now and join your fellow Triumph racers at this prestigious event. The Wild Hare features generous amounts of track time, including a free enduro, on one of the most challenging long tracks in the country. Topping off the weekend will be the presentation of the coveted "Martha" trophy to the Triumph racer that displays a high level of performance on track, camaraderie in the paddock and general good-guy/gal-ness. In addition to the standard fun on and off the track, the Ghetto will provide their world famous surf and turf dinner on Friday evening. Mark your calendars and watch for posting of the entry form at the link below. We look forward to seeing you there. http://www.vintagedrive.com/ The TR Ghetto PS: Here is Martha's story This race weekend honors Ms. Martha McDougal, a woman who toiled in almost total obscurity for many years at the Triumph automobile plant in Coventry, England. According to sources believed to be reliable, Martha was born in Coventry in January, 1923. Her parents were tragically killed in the Blitz and Martha was left an orphan at age 16. Although she was not overly bright, she was very resourceful and within months had gotten a job at the Standard Triumph factory emptying the dust bins. Throughout the war and until the demise of the company, Martha made the rounds, day after day, month after month, year after year, transferring the trash into her cart and then into the large bins behind the factory, without complaint or even one day's absence. Over the years Martha became known as the single person who had completed the most "laps" of the Triumph factory and, upon her retirement a few months before the final closing of the Coventry plant, she was honored with a bronzed pair of high top Keds, her signature footwear. It is rumored that at the presentation, Sir John himself reminisced about how Martha, who had an endearing habit of assigning nicknames to all the staff, would push past him in the hallway and mumble, "Get out of my way you fat bastard". From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Mon Jan 2 19:24:07 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:24:07 -0600 Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver Message-ID: <000701ccc9be$c58e7a80$50ab6f80$@rr.com> We are in the process of helping my father-in-law clean out his house and stumbled across subject magazines dating back to the 70s. If anyone knows of a library or museum wanting such collections I am all ears. If we don't get the whole collection offed to one location, I'll be willing to ship you a specific issue that you may need. I'll send them to you if you pick up the shipping cost. Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so same offer... Thanks, Greg From BillDentin at aol.com Tue Jan 3 08:34:27 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:34:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver Message-ID: <8c39.48096d22.3c347a03@aol.com> In a message dated 01/02/2012 8:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, ablake2 at austin.rr.com writes: > <<< Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so same > offer...>>> > Ah so. Clearly, a classic, multifaceted, renaissance man, who knows what's important. My kind of people. Bill (Damdinger) From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Jan 4 12:00:15 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:00:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] BARRETT/JACKSON SCOTTSDALE Message-ID: <8CE992A3A87B53B-5F0-8C722@webmail-d174.sysops.aol.com> FOT Tom Chandler and I plan to attend B-J on the 15th/16th of January. Will travel by way of Albuquerque from Iowa. Anyone else going to be there? Joe Alexander From 1964spitfire at pacbell.net Wed Jan 4 12:02:29 2012 From: 1964spitfire at pacbell.net (Tim Pettenati) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:02:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver In-Reply-To: <000701ccc9be$c58e7a80$50ab6f80$@rr.com> References: <000701ccc9be$c58e7a80$50ab6f80$@rr.com> Message-ID: <1325703749.68660.YahooMailRC@web180310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The San Diego Auto Museum may be interested. They take donated magazines and sell them to raise money. I picked a few issues of Sports Car from the 60's last time I was there. They also have a research library with many old magazines. You'd probably have to ship on your dime. Possibly a tax deduction? Regards, Tim ________________________________ From: Greg & Alison Blake To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, January 2, 2012 6:24:07 PM Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver We are in the process of helping my father-in-law clean out his house and stumbled across subject magazines dating back to the 70s. If anyone knows of a library or museum wanting such collections I am all ears. If we don't get the whole collection offed to one location, I'll be willing to ship you a specific issue that you may need. I'll send them to you if you pick up the shipping cost. Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so same offer... Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/1964spitfire at pacbell.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Wed Jan 4 16:35:44 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:35:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty Message-ID: As of tonight 37 cars and growing. Still room on the shirt for your name! No Brits yet. Just out of curiosity, what is the largest turnout we have had at a FOT event? Anybody know? Marty From jkhagen at charter.net Wed Jan 4 16:54:00 2012 From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:54:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever Message-ID: <7bfaa129.dc3e7.134ab24c587.Webtop.49@charter.net> Hi Gang, See attached --odd request--need early Spit/Herald tie rod link[or steering lever] --but it bends away from rotor--[TVR uses TR-4 rotors]--Has [Stanpart-stamp on it so it is some kind of O.E. part]--any clues?? Rimmer Bros--have early Spit parts but straight lever only--HELP--John Hagen 763-684-1617 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/02/2012 8:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, > ablake2 at austin.rr.com writes: > > >> <<< Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so >> same offer...>>> >> > Ah so. Clearly, a classic, multifaceted, renaissance man, who knows > what's important. > > My kind of people. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Jan 4 17:35:59 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:35:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CE99592143FFA5-5F0-90621@webmail-d174.sysops.aol.com> Marty....thanks..... probably Mid-Ohio with 40 plus, but i dont know for sure. i am waiting for a reply from Keith Files on the Brit status. there was planning to provide some coordination with the Brits, but it hasnt happened. the last i heard was that they filled the LORRIE with EIGHT TRIUMPHS like at MID-OHIO. btw, Kas and I are presently working on the venue and sanctioning body for 2013 and plan to announce it at THE MITTY. -----Original Message----- From: marty sukey To: FOT Sent: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 5:53 pm Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty As of tonight 37 cars and growing. Still room on the shirt for your name! No Brits yet. Just out of curiosity, what is the largest turnout we have had at a FOT event? Anybody know? Marty _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From malaboge at aol.com Wed Jan 4 21:25:53 2012 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 23:25:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever In-Reply-To: <7bfaa129.dc3e7.134ab24c587.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <7bfaa129.dc3e7.134ab24c587.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <8CE99793F1AB26C-1D5C-8681B@webmail-d133.sysops.aol.com> John- Yeah I've never figgered what those Hoo Hill crazies used on the TVR either...its not Lotus either. BUT, I did manage to duplicate one by using a straight one of the correct length and applying the ole heat n bend routine. Still on the car an still workin. Maybe the Hokey Pokey IS what its all about... Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: jkhagen To: BillDentin Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 4:22 pm Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever Hi Gang, See attached --odd request--need early Spit/Herald tie rod ink[or steering lever] --but it bends away from rotor--[TVR uses TR-4 otors]--Has [Stanpart-stamp on it so it is some kind of O.E. part]--any lues?? Rimmer Bros--have early Spit parts but straight lever nly--HELP--John Hagen 763-684-1617 From jkhagen at charter.net Thu Jan 5 09:10:30 2012 From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:10:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever Message-ID: <4688f977.e2f31.134aea2c606.Webtop.47@charter.net> Try again--some did not recieve image???? Sorry--- Hi Gang, See attached --odd request--need early Spit/Herald tie rod link[or steering lever] --but it bends away from rotor--[TVR uses TR-4 rotors]--Has [Stanpart-stamp on it so it is some kind of O.E. part]--any clues?? Rimmer Bros--have early Spit parts but straight lever only--HELP--John Hagen 763-684-1617 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/02/2012 8:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, > ablake2 at austin.rr.com writes: > > >> <<< Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so >> same offer...>>> >> > Ah so. Clearly, a classic, multifaceted, renaissance man, who knows > what's important. > > My kind of people. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jan 5 18:38:45 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:38:45 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever In-Reply-To: <4688f977.e2f31.134aea2c606.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <4688f977.e2f31.134aea2c606.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <4F0650A5.70104@bradakis.com> jkhagen at charter.net wrote: > Try again--some did not recieve image???? Sorry--- The email list manager is set to strip attachments. One can use the Team.Net forums to post pictures. Link down there at the bottom for those on the real time list, not sure if I added it to the digest. I should write up a quick guide to using the forums - yep, RealSoonNow. mjb. From horizonracing at msn.com Fri Jan 6 12:25:10 2012 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 11:25:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Car hauler for sale Message-ID: Hi All, We are selling our 2001 F650 custom and 3 car 40ft trailer. $26.000 obo Please contact me off list for futher details. Thank you Tony Garmey 206 612 1782 From jason at multivintage.com Fri Jan 6 15:15:35 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 16:15:35 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Message-ID: A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. www.botchagaloop.net These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. Thanks again, Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Fri Jan 6 17:36:36 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Robert Kramer) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 18:36:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of slides are pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about Action Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to late 60's. They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 4:16 PM To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. www.botchagaloop.net These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. Thanks again, Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From spitlist at cox.net Fri Jan 6 20:56:38 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:56:38 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 50th Anniversary Spitfire commemorative stickers Message-ID: I am now ready to do the production run of stickers and want to see if there are any others who want to get in on this one-time production. As I discussed previously, I can do three sizes as follows: (A) 11.6" wide x 6.3" high @ $25.00 each (B) 10 " wide x 5.5" high @ 22.50 each (C) 6.75" wide x3.75" high @ 12.00 each So far I have had the following people preorder decals. Bob Davis (2 of size A and 2 of size C) John Fridirici (4 of size C) Christopher Boch (2 of size C) Rocky Entriken (5 of size C) George Harmuth (4 of size C) Dick Ross (1 of size C) Elizabeth Chandler (1 of size C) I will print at least 25 decals so if I don't get any more orders, I will likely have 2 or three left over in case someone didn't get the word in time. So, if anybody else wants to get in on this production run, please let me know by the middle if next week with a notification of size and quantity. I will be sending out individual email messages to those who have preordered detailing payment instructions and asking for shipping addresses. Regards, Joe Curry From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat Jan 7 04:33:29 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:33:29 +1000 Subject: [Fot] TR250 TR5 accessory driving light Message-ID: i have found 2 of the original Lucas rectangular driving lights. these were listed a factory option on the TR5 so maybe TR250???. does anyone have a pic of how they were fitted??. I've found a pic of a bracket in a 1967 Lucas catalogue but I still cant work out if they were above or below the front bar. any help appreciated thanks, Terry From BillDentin at aol.com Sat Jan 7 08:19:50 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:19:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Message-ID: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> In a message dated 01/06/2012 7:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, rkramer3 at austin.rr.com writes: > This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of slides are > pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about Action > Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to late 60's. > They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? > Bob... While I've never heard of them myself, Rockford, Illinois is a stone's throw from Blackhawk Farms Raceway (South Beloit, Illinois), so someone around here ought to know something. I'll do some checking. Bill Dentinger From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Jan 7 08:46:22 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:46:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup and FOT shirt orders Message-ID: Just an update. Minimum order on the shirts is 48 each. We have made the minimum on the Katsner Cup shirts but only have request for 11 of the FOT shirts. If your thinking you want one of the FOT shirts speak up. So far we have 40 names going on the back of the Kastner Cup shirts which translates into 40 cars at the event with 3 months to go yet, pretty cool. Marty From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Sat Jan 7 09:19:14 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Robert Kramer) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:19:14 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> Message-ID: <4C69822E604943C09EB496FA7B36BB50@latitudefb1e41> Bill, I got some of these with the car and some from Ken Stewart, the son of the original owner. Ken took his driver's school in my TR4A back in the 60's. I sent Tom a couple of scans of some proofs I have from my TR4A late last night. Apparently he doesn't sleep :-) He has found an interesting newspaper article referencing that David Donahue was also looking for Action Limited. I have enough scans to know that they were at the 1967 ARRC in Daytona and the 1968 ARRC in Riverside. There are also some from some tracks that are not those two. It would seem that the photographer from Action Limited took photos at major SCCA events and gave the drivers proofs to choose from. It might be an incredible stash of photos. The most interesting thing about these proofs is that the car that I bought a couple of years ago for my son to race, the blue #67 TR4 was also at Daytona in 1967, and we are pretty sure it is the car in the background of the now67big.jpg proof based on the distinctive number circle and the lettering on the rear fenders. Joe Hines was sponsored by Troncalli Motors for the ARRC. I love looking at old pictures! Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin at aol.com [mailto:BillDentin at aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 9:20 AM To: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com; jason at multivintage.com; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In a message dated 01/06/2012 7:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, rkramer3 at austin.rr.com writes: This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of slides are pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about Action Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to late 60's. They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? Bob... While I've never heard of them myself, Rockford, Illinois is a stone's throw from Blackhawk Farms Raceway (South Beloit, Illinois), so someone around here ought to know something. I'll do some checking. Bill Dentinger [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of BW6nov68.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of C2nov68.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Crss4a.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of nov67big.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Joe Hines TR4 (2).jpg] From silvio at koelbelco.com Sat Jan 7 10:41:52 2012 From: silvio at koelbelco.com (Silvio DeBartolomeis) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:41:52 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR250 TR5 accessory driving light Message-ID: <00c001cccd63$9db079b8$0302010a@koelbel.local> Enquiries Road & Track wrote: i have found 2 of the original Lucas rectangular driving lights. these were listed a factory option on the TR5 so maybe TR250???. does anyone have a pic of how they were fitted??. I've found a pic of a bracket in a 1967 Lucas catalogue but I still cant work out if they were above or below the front bar. any help appreciated thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/silvio at koelbelco.com From koblinger at verizon.net Sat Jan 7 11:00:09 2012 From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:00:09 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > www.botchagaloop.net > > These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing > lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch > some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with > photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that > tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there > are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > > > Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from > the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of > history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time > over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > Thanks again, > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Jan 7 11:51:35 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:51:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> Message-ID: <8CE9B8483EC8603-1B14-9CCF1@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> Sounds like the makings of a book here in the FOT RANKS. A photo book on Triumphs? We have printer in the Triumph fold. -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Oblinger To: fot Sent: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:28 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > www.botchagaloop.net > > These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing > lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch > some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with > photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that > tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there > are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > > > Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from > the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of > history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time > over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > Thanks again, > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Sat Jan 7 11:55:30 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:55:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back digital images and what the cost would be? I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in the Smithsonian. ~Steve On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > www.botchagaloop.net > > These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's > racing > lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to > catch > some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies > (also with > photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship > action that > tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph > fan... there > are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > > > Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's > group) from > the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove > of > history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my > spare time > over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > Thanks again, > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sat Jan 7 12:53:03 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:53:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just pay and get it over with. I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? Chris On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back digital images and what the cost would be? > I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in the Smithsonian. > > ~Steve > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: > > Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. > > Cheers, > Kurt O. > > On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. >> www.botchagaloop.net >> >> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality >> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing >> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch >> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with >> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that >> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there >> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. >> >> >> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from >> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of >> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time >> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. >> Thanks again, >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com From mlcooknj at msn.com Sat Jan 7 13:59:53 2012 From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:59:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> References: , <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net>, <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net>, <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: There is a device on the market that will scan 35 mm slides and save directly to your computer. I bought one on Sale at Bed Bath & Beyond a couple of years ago for under $100. It does both slides and negatives Now the confession: I haven't used it yet! But I have spoken to people who have. It's called a VuPoint. Works with Windows XP and Vista Mike Cook> From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:53:03 -0500 > To: colordog.1 at earthlink.net > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos > > I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something > close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it > myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just > pay and get it over with. > > I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? > > Chris > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > > Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back > digital images and what the cost would be? > > I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in > the Smithsonian. > > > > ~Steve > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: > > > > Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my > collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. > All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 > mainly. > > > > Cheers, > > Kurt O. > > > > On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > >> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > >> www.botchagaloop.net > >> > >> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > >> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's > racing > >> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch > >> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with > >> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that > >> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... > there > >> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > >> > >> > >> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from > >> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of > >> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time > >> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > >> Thanks again, > >> Jason Ostrowski > >> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj at msn.com From koblinger at verizon.net Sat Jan 7 14:44:54 2012 From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:44:54 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4F08BCD6.2000006@verizon.net> I know people who have used Scan Cafe and are happy with the results. However, I'm not comfortable with the idea of sending my stuff half-way around the world to be scanned. I have a Canon 9950f flatbed scanner that can scan a variety of film sizes. It can scan 12 35mm slides in one (very slow) pass and outputs individual files for each slide. From there I bring them into Photoshop Elements for cleanup and correction. I am probably going to pop for Adobe Lightroom here soon as it has some nice organizational features. I have a domain name registered and server space available courtesy of a friend who runs a web server out of his house for fun. Here are a few samples of what I've scanned so far. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/townsendlolawm.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/manselllotuswm.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/296/efrspitfirepc9.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/tulliustr8ti6.jpg/ I have more on my Facebook page for those of you who do that. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/7/2012 10:55 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: > Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and > get back digital images and what the cost would be? > I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image > collection in the Smithsonian. > > ~Steve > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: > > Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just > liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to > get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, > SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. > > Cheers, > Kurt O. > > On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. >> www.botchagaloop.net >> >> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality >> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's >> racing >> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to >> catch >> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also >> with >> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action >> that >> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... >> there >> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. >> >> >> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) >> from >> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of >> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare >> time >> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. >> Thanks again, >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Sat Jan 7 15:06:43 2012 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:06:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FW: Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Message-ID: <002b01cccd88$a3f301c0$ebd90540$@rr.com> Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos There's also a device I have used that is fairly inexpensive and does a reasonable job. Adesso EZ Scan 1000. Scans both slides and 35mm roll film both positive and negative. It puts the prints where you direct it, I did the HD in jpeg format. The device is ~$59 and seemingly the best price was at Amazon!. I had a bunch of 40+ year old slides it had no problem with. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 From billdentin at aol.com Sat Jan 7 15:10:45 2012 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:10:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: References: , <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net>, <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net>, <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE9BA056A95A4E-1140-694E7@webmail-m087.sysops.aol.com> <<< There is a device on the market that will scan 35 mm slides and save directly o your computer. I bought one on Sale at Bed Bath & Beyond a couple of years go for under $100. It does both slides and negatives Now the confession: I haven't used it yet! But I have spoken to people who ave. It's called a VuPoint. Works with Windows XP and Vista Mike Cook> From: ike...>>> I have one as well, and while it works fine, it is a tedious process especially with the quantities mentioned. Years ago a scanner I purchased also had an attachment that would scan slides. I still have it but the scanner no longer works. Bill Dentinger From jhhasty at gdhs.com Sat Jan 7 15:51:59 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan Message-ID: Guys... Starting my first engine tear down and can't get the stock fan mount off. Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? If so how can you get it off? Heat? Sawsaw? I don't need it to replace. From TR3driver at ca.rr.com Sat Jan 7 16:31:30 2012 From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:31:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> > Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder > have threads? Yes. It's a great big bolt that reaches through the center of the fan extension and threads into the nose of the crankshaft. You'll likely need a 6-point socket to grab the head (due to the rounded corners). > If > so how can you get it off? Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver stuck in the flywheel teeth. -- Randall From cartravel at pobox.com Sat Jan 7 16:49:35 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:49:35 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: <4F08DA0F.2080507@pobox.com> I scanned a bunch of slides last winter, including the four rolls I took in 1968, when I toured Europe in my TR250. Flatbed scanners really suck for doing slides. You have to have a dedicated 35mm scanner (for slides or negatives). These have recently come down to within my price range. I first borrowed a Nikon scanner, but then bought an OpticFilm scanner. I scanned most of mine at 4795x3145, which is half the max resolution. I've been amazed at being able to zoom in and read small road signs, etc. Mine has a holder for four slides. It is a bit tedious, but not much worse than scanning stuff on a flatbed scanner. Besides, you can do it while you are doing something else, like watching the NFL playoffs. Larry Young On 1/7/2012 1:53 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something > close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it > myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just > pay and get it over with. > > I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? > > Chris > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > >> Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back > digital images and what the cost would be? >> I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in > the Smithsonian. >> ~Steve >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: >> >> Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my > collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. > All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 > mainly. >> Cheers, >> Kurt O. >> >> On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >>> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. >>> www.botchagaloop.net >>> >>> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality >>> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's > racing >>> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch >>> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with >>> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that >>> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... > there >>> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. >>> >>> >>> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from >>> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of >>> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time >>> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. >>> Thanks again, >>> Jason Ostrowski >>> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com From jason at multivintage.com Sat Jan 7 17:00:19 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 18:00:19 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > > > so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need some > way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver stuck in > the flywheel teeth. > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the flywheel can be damaged easily. Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. Jason. FGR > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From ac at camoletti.ch Sat Jan 7 17:35:19 2012 From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:35:19 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch> There are tools to hold the flywheel without damaging it. I remember LISLE stuff: effective and costing little (10 or 20). I have one and it works well! Cheers ! Alex (the Swiss one) -----Message d'origine----- De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Jason Ostrowski Envoyi : dimanche 8 janvier 2012 01:00 @ : Randall Cc : fot at autox.team.net Objet : Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > > > so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need > some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > stuck in the flywheel teeth. > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the flywheel can be damaged easily. Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. Jason. FGR > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 7 19:16:17 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Delap) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:16:17 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch> Message-ID: Better still - take the oil pan off - keep the crank from turning with a block of wood between it and the block. On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:35 PM, "Alexandre Camoletti" wrote: > There are tools to hold the flywheel without damaging it. > I remember LISLE stuff: effective and costing little (10 or 20). I have one > and it works well! > Cheers ! > Alex (the Swiss one) > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la > part de Jason Ostrowski > Envoyi : dimanche 8 janvier 2012 01:00 > @ : Randall > Cc : fot at autox.team.net > Objet : Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > >> >>> so how can you get it off? >> >> Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need >> some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver >> stuck in the flywheel teeth. >> > > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the > flywheel can be damaged easily. > Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. > > Jason. > FGR > > >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net From kaskas at cox.net Sat Jan 7 20:20:04 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 03:20:04 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: , <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall>, , <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch>, Message-ID: If you still have the gearbox attached, pull the box cover and push the selectors rings into two gears, that will hold anything. Just remmeber what you did and pull out one of the gears. i used a big brass drift to put the box into the two gears at once. bang bang and it's done. Never be beaten by equipment > From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:16:17 -0600 > To: ac at camoletti.ch > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan > > Better still - take the oil pan off - keep the crank from turning with a block > of wood between it and the block. > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:35 PM, "Alexandre Camoletti" wrote: > > > There are tools to hold the flywheel without damaging it. > > I remember LISLE stuff: effective and costing little (10 or 20). I have one > > and it works well! > > Cheers ! > > Alex (the Swiss one) > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la > > part de Jason Ostrowski > > Envoyi : dimanche 8 janvier 2012 01:00 > > @ : Randall > > Cc : fot at autox.team.net > > Objet : Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > > > >> > >>> so how can you get it off? > >> > >> Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need > >> some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > >> stuck in the flywheel teeth. > >> > > > > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the > > flywheel can be damaged easily. > > Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. > > > > Jason. > > FGR > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas at cox.net From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Jan 8 03:41:24 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:41:24 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan Message-ID: If the engine is inside the car, 4th gear, hand brake and a long wrench will do it. If the engine is outside the car, remove the oil pan, a piece od wood next to the crank to block it will do it. Cheers Chris ------Originalnachricht------ Von: John Hasty Absender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Tr4 fan Gesendet: 7. Jan. 2012 23:51 Guys... Starting my first engine tear down and can't get the stock fan mount off. Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? If so how can you get it off? Heat? Sawsaw? I don't need it to replace. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone From tr4.tony at virgin.net Sun Jan 8 04:07:56 2012 From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (TR4 Tony) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:07:56 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64014CD4-AF3B-44A7-A075-6F8525531868@virgin.net> John If the car is together put it in 4th and chock or strap the rear wheels down to your floor or ramp, take the bonnet off and use the biggest ratchet you have with a scaffold bar over the end of the handle. Put an old cushion over the inner wing on the side the pole will fall. As you swing like a monkey on the end of the pole you will feel it give then the job is nearly done. Wind out as normal from then on. The thread is a unf and gets bound tight ... Throwing on some heat with a torch or a chemical releaser will help too. Normally the hub is a tight interference fit too, so you need to carefully extract this to avoid mulls ring the end of the crank. Happy days. Tony Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jan 2012, at 22:51, John Hasty wrote: > Guys... Starting my first engine tear down and can't get the stock fan mount > off. Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? If > so how can you get it off? Heat? Sawsaw? I don't need it to replace. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sun Jan 8 08:24:03 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:24:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: Amici Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I nominated myself. Chris. From tony at tonydrews.com Sun Jan 8 08:24:47 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:24:47 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: <20120108152459.ED8061878BD@autox.team.net> There's a local outfit that will scan slides for $0.16 each - as long as they are loaded into a carousel already. Jack purchased a Canon flatbed slide scanner that will do 12 slides in a slow pass. I just used it last weekend to scan some slides he somehow missed. I could see it being pretty time consuming to do many of them. Tony At 01:53 PM 1/7/2012, Christopher Bock wrote: >I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something >close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it >myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just >pay and get it over with. > >I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? > >Chris From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Jan 8 08:55:31 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:55:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CE9C35145020D6-7F8-1B509@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> It's voluntary stuff like this that adds great value to the non-organization of the FOT. The Kastner Cup would be a great place to start the picture/people process. It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to organize a group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge...... Thanks Chris.... -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bock To: FoTTriumph Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 9:44 am Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Amici Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I nominated myself. Chris. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From trmarty at hotmail.com Sun Jan 8 09:17:16 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:17:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <8CE9C35145020D6-7F8-1B509@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> References: , <8CE9C35145020D6-7F8-1B509@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I second the nomination :). It would also be cool to have individual photos of people and their cars. Marty > To: SeaCubeCo at aol.com; fot at autox.team.net > From: n197tr4 at cs.com > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:55:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? > > It's voluntary stuff like this that adds great value to the non-organization > of the FOT. > > The Kastner Cup would be a great place to start the picture/people process. > > It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to organize a > group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge...... > > Thanks Chris.... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Bock > To: FoTTriumph > Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 9:44 am > Subject: [Fot] Calendar? > > > Amici > > Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? > > > Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I > nominated myself. > > > Chris. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty at hotmail.com From cwnfot at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 09:23:05 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:23:05 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty, slides... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201ccce21$cdcf76b0$696e6410$@com> Is Vern Brannon signed on (hopefully)? Thanks everyone for enjoying my slide collection (and those of my friends) and website! Sometimes a cold winter produces results! You'll find copies on various historical sites worldwide! I had some fun with Bob Tullius at Lime Rock in 2011. Always had a smile on his face! Hope to see you all at the Mitty! Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From BillDentin at aol.com Sun Jan 8 09:28:49 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:28:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: <1058e.67a2997d.3c3b1e41@aol.com> In a message dated 01/08/2012 10:12:04 AM Central Standard Time, n197tr4 at cs.com writes: > <<< It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to > organize a > group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge......>>> > I have three mounted/framed panographes from previous TRIUMPH featured events at Mid-Ohio in 1992, 1998, and 2002. I also have the 1992 poster (signed by all of the drivers and folks like Bob Tullius and Smokey Yunik) mounted/framed. If I use my enclosed trailer to get to Atlanta, maybe I could bring them for display purposes to generate interest in a calendar effort. Bill From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Jan 8 09:41:53 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:41:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] PANOGRAPH/PHOTO SHOOT at KASTNER CUP VOLUNTEERS? In-Reply-To: <1058e.67a2997d.3c3b1e41@aol.com> References: <1058e.67a2997d.3c3b1e41@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE9C3B8FCBAF21-7F8-1BA73@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> Bill, bringing the great looking panographs to Road Atlanta would be nice to do in any case. Sean & I treasure our three panographs. Now who will volunteer to organize the panograph guy and/or the photo shoot? This is a lot of work to organize and execute, but this event is way too big to let this go by. Please report in to our event Chair.....Henry Frye. BTW, Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer, the elder statesmen of the FOT will both be running the Kastner Cup. -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin To: n197tr4 Cc: fot Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 10:28 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? In a message dated 01/08/2012 10:12:04 AM Central Standard Time, n197tr4 at cs.com writes: <<< It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to organize a group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge......>>> I have three mounted/framed panographes from previous TRIUMPH featured events at Mid-Ohio in 1992, 1998, and 2002. I also have the 1992 poster (signed by all of the drivers and folks like Bob Tullius and Smokey Yunik) mounted/framed. If I use my enclosed trailer to get to Atlanta, maybe I could bring them for display purposes to generate interest in a calendar effort. Bill From lunkercars at earthlink.net Sun Jan 8 10:37:44 2012 From: lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg ''Lunker'' Hilyer) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:37:44 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <22070712-97DA-44AC-96CC-89B68997E4F4@earthlink.net> It's interesting how many ways there are to skin a cat. Here's my version [engine in car]: Get your 6pt socket and breaker bar, wedge it against the floor or frame rail and bump the starter - done! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Randall wrote: >> Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder >> have threads? > > Yes. It's a great big bolt that reaches through the center of the fan > extension and threads into the nose of the crankshaft. You'll > likely need a > 6-point socket to grab the head (due to the rounded corners). > >> If >> so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll > need some > way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > stuck in > the flywheel teeth. > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > lunkercars at earthlink.net From cartravel at pobox.com Sun Jan 8 11:24:14 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 12:24:14 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 Message-ID: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to modify it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly original, the FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, where do the 6 cylinder guys hang out? '68 was the first year the emission laws started to take their toll on performance, as evidenced by the TR5 vs TR250. I would like to make it perform better, while keeping a stock looking engine appearance. I'm thinking along the lines of the 125 mph car that Kas did for publicity back in the day. My thoughts at this point are to increase the compression to the limits imposed by pump gas. Change to a longer duration cam, i.e. more like the early PI cam. I'm not sure how to tune the nonadjustable carbs when the engine is modified. I was also thinking about getting rid of the wacky ignition retard, but continuing to use the vacuum advance. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can accomplish my goal within the limits I've imposed? I have an old Cam Doctor that I have used to look at several TR3/4 cams. I have a fairly popular webpage on those cams at www.TildenTechnologies.com. .As part of this effort, I'd like to do some research and a similar page for 6 cylinder cams. Does anyone have an early PI cam that I could borrow to analyze for this effort? Or, perhaps other street performance cams? Thanks, Larry Young From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Sun Jan 8 11:23:18 2012 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 12:23:18 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <22070712-97DA-44AC-96CC-89B68997E4F4@earthlink.net> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> <22070712-97DA-44AC-96CC-89B68997E4F4@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402684FCE@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> << Get your 6pt socket and breaker bar, wedge it against the floor or frame rail and bump the starter >> ...to which I have to add "having first determined that the direction of rotation will hold the breaker bar against the floor or frame rail and not, say, fling it at the light fixture or other valuable and delicate item." Not that I've done that. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg ''Lunker'' Hilyer Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 11:38 AM To: Randall Cc: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan It's interesting how many ways there are to skin a cat. Here's my version [engine in car]: Get your 6pt socket and breaker bar, wedge it against the floor or frame rail and bump the starter - done! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Randall wrote: >> Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? > > Yes. It's a great big bolt that reaches through the center of the fan > extension and threads into the nose of the crankshaft. You'll likely > need a 6-point socket to grab the head (due to the rounded corners). > >> If >> so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need > some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > stuck in the flywheel teeth. > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > lunkercars at earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/scott.barr at mccarty-law.com From tr4.tony at virgin.net Sun Jan 8 11:07:19 2012 From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (TR4 Tony) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:07:19 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72CE7BF6-E800-466A-8DB2-727EAF6EC1D6@virgin.net> Yeah I'm up for one of those Sent from my iPhone On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? > > > Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I > nominated myself. > > > Chris. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net From macdonaldp at rogers.com Sun Jan 8 11:49:48 2012 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:49:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 In-Reply-To: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> References: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Message-ID: <002801ccce36$4c6a6a20$e53f3e60$@rogers.com> http://www.6-pack.org/j15/ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Young Sent: January 8, 2012 1:24 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to modify it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly original, the FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, where do the 6 cylinder guys hang out? '68 was the first year the emission laws started to take their toll on performance, as evidenced by the TR5 vs TR250. I would like to make it perform better, while keeping a stock looking engine appearance. I'm thinking along the lines of the 125 mph car that Kas did for publicity back in the day. My thoughts at this point are to increase the compression to the limits imposed by pump gas. Change to a longer duration cam, i.e. more like the early PI cam. I'm not sure how to tune the nonadjustable carbs when the engine is modified. I was also thinking about getting rid of the wacky ignition retard, but continuing to use the vacuum advance. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can accomplish my goal within the limits I've imposed? I have an old Cam Doctor that I have used to look at several TR3/4 cams. I have a fairly popular webpage on those cams at www.TildenTechnologies.com. .As part of this effort, I'd like to do some research and a similar page for 6 cylinder cams. Does anyone have an early PI cam that I could borrow to analyze for this effort? Or, perhaps other street performance cams? Thanks, Larry Young _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sun Jan 8 12:04:58 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:04:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <72CE7BF6-E800-466A-8DB2-727EAF6EC1D6@virgin.net> References: <72CE7BF6-E800-466A-8DB2-727EAF6EC1D6@virgin.net> Message-ID: <9102D996-C559-4083-8281-6B4070A49762@aol.com> Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. Like my life isn't busy enough! Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? >> >> >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I >> nominated myself. >> >> >> Chris. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 12:24:44 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 12:24:44 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 In-Reply-To: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> References: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4F09ED7C.1030102@bradakis.com> Larry Young wrote: > Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the > restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is > very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to > modify it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly > original, the FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, > where do the 6 cylinder guys hang out? Team.Net has both the triumphs and 6pack lists ( http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo ) though there is more activity on the 6pack forum they have set up. I know I have a link here somewhere... mjb. From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sun Jan 8 14:46:14 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:46:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage Message-ID: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video surfaced on another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the greatest driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car footage Ruby was also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the 4:10 point of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 24 Hours of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if there was some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas would know who it is. I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were having in the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an interesting guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita Falls, Texas you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he passed two years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded -Ed- From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sun Jan 8 15:32:03 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:32:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <9102D996-C559-4083-8281-6B4070A49762@aol.com> Message-ID: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chris and group: At the risk of stepping on toes, I will step up to the calender plate since I have yet to do anything but reap the knowledge and friendships of this group. I co-publish the calenders for our local TR club. We have just (last month) published our fourth calender year, and the pictures get better every year. We have a great printer who does them quickly, at a reasonable price. We print 75 copies for a membership of about 100-110. They cost less then $10.00 each. We start to collect membership photos in January, firm up the selection in November, and turn them in to the printer the first of December. We start selling them at the December club meeting the second week in December. I use a lot of pictures of cars that come into the shop for service, so even if we don't get pictures turned in by the car owners, we still get a lot of pictures. If you would like me to do it I would ask list members to turn in photos from events they attend as drivers, workers, or spectators. These would get cataloged and the selection made by photo quality, content, and car model so we would have a good sampling of the FOT cars. Of course, with the number of FOTer's we can order more calenders at a better price with any profits going to support Mark B's never-ending efforts. If this meets every ones approval I can start to collect pictures. Respectfully - Ed Barnard --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Christopher Bock wrote: From: Christopher Bock Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? To: "TR4 Tony" Cc: "FoTTriumph" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:04 PM Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. Like my life isn't busy enough! Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? >> >> >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I >> nominated myself. >> >> >> Chris. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sun Jan 8 15:59:37 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:59:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40DC2EC1-5227-4324-9463-587641B18AA8@aol.com> I will gladly hand over the reins on this one. Thanks ED for offering. I was going to have the Kastner Cup top three and their cars for the month of the Cup race. Thanks again Ed Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:32 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Chris and group: At the risk of stepping on toes, I will step up to the calender plate since I have yet to do anything but reap the knowledge and friendships of this group. I co-publish the calenders for our local TR club. We have just (last month) published our fourth calender year, and the pictures get better every year. We have a great printer who does them quickly, at a reasonable price. We print 75 copies for a membership of about 100-110. They cost less then $10.00 each. We start to collect membership photos in January, firm up the selection in November, and turn them in to the printer the first of December. We start selling them at the December club meeting the second week in December. I use a lot of pictures of cars that come into the shop for service, so even if we don't get pictures turned in by the car owners, we still get a lot of pictures. > If you would like me to do it I would ask list members to turn in photos from events they attend as drivers, workers, or spectators. These would get cataloged and the selection made by photo quality, content, and car model so we would have a good sampling of the FOT cars. > Of course, with the number of FOTer's we can order more calenders at a better price with any profits going to support Mark B's never-ending efforts. > If this meets every ones approval I can start to collect pictures. > Respectfully - Ed Barnard > > --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Christopher Bock wrote: > > From: Christopher Bock > Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? > To: "TR4 Tony" > Cc: "FoTTriumph" > Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:04 PM > > Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. > > Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to > put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. > > > I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little > description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures > please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and > "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. > > > There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is > ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. > > > Like my life isn't busy enough! > > Chris > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > > > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > > > >> Amici > >> > >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? > >> > >> > >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess > I > >> nominated myself. > >> > >> > >> Chris. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 8 16:32:04 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 15:32:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1326065524.13983.YahooMailRC@web181307.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Go ED! What size pictures do you need? (500KB big enough?) Chris and group: At the risk of stepping on toes, I will step up to the calender plate since I have yet to do anything but reap the knowledge and friendships of this group. I co-publish the calenders for our local TR club. We have just (last month) published our fourth calender year, and the pictures get better every year. We have a great printer who does them quickly, at a reasonable price. We print 75 copies for a membership of about 100-110. They cost less then $10.00 each. We start to collect membership photos in January, firm up the selection in November, and turn them in to the printer the first of December. We start selling them at the December club meeting the second week in December. I use a lot of pictures of cars that come into the shop for service, so even if we don't get pictures turned in by the car owners, we still get a lot of pictures. If you would like me to do it I would ask list members to turn in photos from events they attend as drivers, workers, or spectators. These would get cataloged and the selection made by photo quality, content, and car model so we would have a good sampling of the FOT cars. Of course, with the number of FOTer's we can order more calenders at a better price with any profits going to support Mark B's never-ending efforts. If this meets every ones approval I can start to collect pictures. Respectfully - Ed Barnard --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Christopher Bock wrote: From: Christopher Bock Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? To: "TR4 Tony" Cc: "FoTTriumph" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:04 PM Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. Like my life isn't busy enough! Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? >> >> >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I >> nominated myself. >> >> >> Chris. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_6694.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_6693.jpg] From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Sun Jan 8 16:42:37 2012 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:42:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical writing in the same Newsletter, T On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > surfaced on > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > greatest > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > footage Ruby was > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > 4:10 point > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > 24 Hours > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > there was > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > would know who > it is. > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > having in > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > interesting > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > Falls, Texas > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > passed two > years ago. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Sun Jan 8 17:10:03 2012 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:10:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> References: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <96F6ACBD-67E1-49AA-B868-7968D18AC003@columbus.rr.com> Sorry it was March 54 Newsletter . I had a page stuck in my hard copy of these..... here is the newsletter http://www.templeoftriumph.org/tsoa/TSOA0109/TSOA0364.pdf T On Jan 8, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Tom Householder wrote: > Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 > finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill > Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 > Ferarris, 3 AC Cobras, and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a Lotus > Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo > 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring > Sprite. See Mar. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph > site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for > Technical writing in the same Newsletter, > > T > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > >> Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video >> surfaced on >> another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the >> greatest >> driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car >> footage Ruby was >> also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At >> the 4:10 point >> of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or >> 1965 24 Hours >> of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if >> there was >> some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas >> would know who >> it is. >> I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were >> having in >> the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an >> interesting >> guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita >> Falls, Texas >> you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he >> passed two >> years ago. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded >> >> -Ed- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ >> trhouse at columbus.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Sun Jan 8 17:23:24 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Robert Kramer) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:23:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <694C1768DE86488FBFC3E4E2E2B21EE3@latitudefb1e41> Jim McAndrew of Tyler TX has a TR3 that matches that description. I know it was raced by those guys. Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Householder Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43 PM To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Old sports car footage Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical writing in the same Newsletter, T On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > surfaced on > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > greatest > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > footage Ruby was > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > 4:10 point > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > 24 Hours > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > there was > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > would know who > it is. > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > having in > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > interesting > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > Falls, Texas > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > passed two > years ago. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sun Jan 8 18:41:22 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:41:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <694C1768DE86488FBFC3E4E2E2B21EE3@latitudefb1e41> Message-ID: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group: Isn't the collective knowledge of this group spectacular! An outsider would surely think we all need to get a life :O) -Ed- --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Robert Kramer wrote: From: Robert Kramer Subject: RE: [Fot] Old sports car footage To: "'Tom Householder'" , "'EDWARD BARNARD'" Cc: "'FOT'" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 6:23 PM Jim McAndrew of Tyler TX has a TR3 that matches that description. I know it was raced by those guys. Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Householder Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43 PM To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Old sports car footage Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical writing in the same Newsletter, T On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > surfaced on > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > greatest > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > footage Ruby was > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > 4:10 point > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > 24 Hours > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > there was > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > would know who > it is. > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > having in > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > interesting > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > Falls, Texas > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > passed two > years ago. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 19:17:30 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F0A4E3A.8080109@bradakis.com> EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Isn't the collective knowledge of this group spectacular! An outsider > would surely think we all need to get a life :O) > This *is* a life! They're the ones with the problem! mjb. From jason at multivintage.com Sun Jan 8 19:12:58 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:12:58 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <694C1768DE86488FBFC3E4E2E2B21EE3@latitudefb1e41> <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You want spectacular... 40 Triumph cars. Each holding a bit of that collective knowledge. Driving for a chance to win the Kastner Cup... The most coveted award in Triumph Racing. Spectacular indeed! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:41 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Isn't the collective knowledge of this group spectacular! An > outsider > would surely think we all need to get a life :O) > -Ed- > > --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Robert Kramer wrote: > > > From: Robert Kramer > Subject: RE: [Fot] Old sports car footage > To: "'Tom Householder'" , "'EDWARD BARNARD'" > > Cc: "'FOT'" > Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 6:23 PM > > > Jim McAndrew of Tyler TX has a TR3 that matches that description. I know it > was raced by those guys. > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3 at austin.rr.com > Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch > excellence. > > Vince Lombardi > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tom Householder > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43 PM > To: EDWARD BARNARD > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Old sports car footage > > Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 > finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill > Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 > Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus > Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo > 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. > See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, > Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical > writing in the same Newsletter, > > T > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > > > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > > surfaced on > > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > > greatest > > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > > footage Ruby was > > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > > 4:10 point > > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > > 24 Hours > > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > > there was > > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > > would know who > > it is. > > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > > having in > > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > > interesting > > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > > Falls, Texas > > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > > passed two > > years ago. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > > > -Ed- > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > > trhouse at columbus.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From jdment at suddenlink.net Sun Jan 8 19:32:59 2012 From: jdment at suddenlink.net (James McAndrew) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:32:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage Message-ID: Neat video! Yes, that is my car in the video. I have a copy of the March 1964 TSOA Newsletter (given to me by the former driver of the car, Dana Kelder) that describes the car's participation and Kas' award. Kas was gracious to sign the newsletter for me at the FOT/Kastner Cup event in Oklahoma. My TR3 is also on the cover of Kas' second book: "Kas Kastner's Racing, Winning and Other Myths in TRIUMPH Cars TR-3, TR-4, TR-250, TR-6, GT-6 & Spitfire". Currently the car is going through it's 3rd major rebuild (new roll cage, new fuel cell, redo suspension...). But I'm almost finished with my new shop that will have a lift, so I hope the work will soon progress. Jim McAndrew Tyler, Texas From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Sun Jan 8 20:12:50 2012 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:12:50 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Oil pump query Message-ID: <54E950AC-99A7-4FD4-AD95-9D9A1DD01CE3@earthlink.net> Happy New Year all, I've only used stock oil pumps in the past for the TR4, but recently came across something different. The outer rotor has machined "flutes" tapered to a depth of about .060". Although it came with a bunch of used parts, I think its NOS from about 30 years ago. So... typical "hi-flow" that I would want to use? Or a cavitation prone idea that I should stay away from? Even if it's a common piece or something you've never seen either, any input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM Prepping for the Kas Cup at the Mitty - which leads to another question. Can anyone lead me to a good track map of Road Atlanta? The track's web site just shows a basic layout without distances or elevations. Is the back straight a up-hill pull? That might help. But it looks awfully long - as in my 4:10 gears [without overdrive] might be a bit short. From spitlist at cox.net Sun Jan 8 23:07:30 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:07:30 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Jim Gamboney Message-ID: <789F4C95EA054B6591A6E33BF3C94D47@Vista> Sorry to bomb the list but could Jim contact me. Thanks, Joe C. From vintage.racer at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 08:35:18 2012 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale Message-ID: <454048388.540839.1326123318457.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2788069483.html From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Jan 9 09:35:42 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:35:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] THE MITTY HSR MEMBERSHIP? Message-ID: <8CE9D03DD1B6C36-1498-2F8AF@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> The question has come to me about HSR membership for entry at THE MITTY. I am going under the assumption that a current membership and medical in any qualified organization is all that is required. Vintage....VMC....SCCA....FIA. We ARE assuming that the HANS device or it's equivalent IS a requirement and that requirement has not been waived. Can anyone confirm? I am not planning to join HSR. Joe A From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Mon Jan 9 10:04:32 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:04:32 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale References: <454048388.540839.1326123318457.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <418CA81F8F734C52AFC5B5326622EB7E@Charly> I don't recognize this car from the Seattle area, it states located in Northern Cal. but posted in Seattle. I don't recall seeing the cat at Laguna Seca, Who's car is it? Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2788069483.html > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com From budscars at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 10:47:41 2012 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:47:41 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale References: <454048388.540839.1326123318457.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <418CA81F8F734C52AFC5B5326622EB7E@Charly> Message-ID: i believe it's Gary Horskorta's car. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charly Mitchel" To: ; "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale >I don't recognize this car from the Seattle area, it states located in >Northern Cal. but posted in Seattle. I don't recall seeing the cat at >Laguna Seca, Who's car is it? > Charly Mitchel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale > > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2788069483.html >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars at comcast.net From stocktontr4 at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 14:20:32 2012 From: stocktontr4 at gmail.com (dick stockton) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:20:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Walter Mitty former racers Message-ID: Hi all, Jim Taylor (ex national racer from the 60s in a black TR4), Bob Krokus (TR3, ex Group 44), the rest of the Misery Manor gang, and Buzz Marcus (pole '66 Riverside ARRC in my old TR4) will be there with me. - Dick From dos_gusanos at msn.com Mon Jan 9 16:48:14 2012 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:48:14 -0700 Subject: [Fot] How many Teeth on ring gear for 5 speed TR7 Message-ID: Good evening, can't find this one in the book, and was wondering if anyone knew before I started cracking covers and changing gaskets...............Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Mon Jan 9 16:52:51 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:52:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 References: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Message-ID: <442C9133C0A44A7E8B9DE61CC39B134A@owner8914bbf7f> Larry, I'm running Z/S carbs from an earlier TR4, with the adjustments on the bottom of the carbs, on my TR6; seem to work well. I had a minor problem with the linkage and had to fabricate a few items. Also the linkage from the accelerator pedal shaft is different: on the TR6 when you hit the gas, the link to the carbs is pulled rearward on the standard carbs. On the ones I use, the link has to be pushed forward. Solution: loosen the bolt on the arm on the gas pedal linkage, push it downward until it's pointed almost straight down and tighten. When you hit the gas now, the link pushes forward and the carbs are opened. EZ! When fabricating linkage, I clamp a 2x4 in my vise, about 3 feet long, bolt the intake manifold to it, and bolt the carbs to the manifold. Then fabricate the linkage. I told that to a guy at Pegasus one time and he said that's how he does it!---Whatever works. Bill- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" To: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 1:24 PM Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 > Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the > restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is > very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to modify > it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly original, the > FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, where do the 6 > cylinder guys hang out? > > '68 was the first year the emission laws started to take their toll on > performance, as evidenced by the TR5 vs TR250. I would like to make it > perform better, while keeping a stock looking engine appearance. I'm > thinking along the lines of the 125 mph car that Kas did for publicity > back in the day. My thoughts at this point are to increase the > compression to the limits imposed by pump gas. Change to a longer > duration cam, i.e. more like the early PI cam. I'm not sure how to tune > the nonadjustable carbs when the engine is modified. I was also thinking > about getting rid of the wacky ignition retard, but continuing to use the > vacuum advance. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can accomplish > my goal within the limits I've imposed? > > I have an old Cam Doctor that I have used to look at several TR3/4 cams. > I have a fairly popular webpage on those cams at > www.TildenTechnologies.com. .As part of this effort, I'd like to do some > research and a similar page for 6 cylinder cams. Does anyone have an early > PI cam that I could borrow to analyze for this effort? Or, perhaps other > street performance cams? > Thanks, > Larry Young > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Mon Jan 9 19:04:33 2012 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> References: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> Message-ID: The address for "Action limited" crosses to one Richard F Kast and wife Sharon, they sold the house in sept 1970 and were in Green Bay then. tom On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:19 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/06/2012 7:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, > rkramer3 at austin.rr.com writes: > > >> This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of >> slides are >> pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about >> Action >> Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to >> late 60's. >> They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? >> > > Bob... > > While I've never heard of them myself, Rockford, Illinois is a stone's > throw from Blackhawk Farms Raceway (South Beloit, Illinois), so > someone around > here ought to know something. I'll do some checking. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com From tony at tonydrews.com Mon Jan 9 20:39:13 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:39:13 -0600 Subject: [Fot] THE MITTY HSR MEMBERSHIP? In-Reply-To: <8CE9D03DD1B6C36-1498-2F8AF@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE9D03DD1B6C36-1498-2F8AF@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20120110033926.2022E187650@autox.team.net> I've never had to join HSR to race with them at prior events. Same with SVRA. Tony At 10:35 AM 1/9/2012, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote: >The question has come to me about HSR membership for entry at THE MITTY. > >I am going under the assumption that a current membership and medical in any >qualified organization is all that is required. >Vintage....VMC....SCCA....FIA. > >We ARE assuming that the HANS device or it's equivalent IS a requirement and >that requirement has not been waived. > >Can anyone confirm? > >I am not planning to join HSR. > >Joe A >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Mon Jan 9 20:43:51 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:43:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Pictures for the FOT calender needed! Message-ID: <1326167031.78590.YahooMailClassic@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group: Okay, it's time for all FOTer's to go through their photo collections and send Chris Bock and I your favorite pics. We are not going to wait for this years Kas Cup to run the calender, so if anyone that has a group shot from the 2011 Cup can send it to us. I'm sure all of you have photos of your cars. We would like static and action photos. Please give us a car/driver/event description with your pictures so we can give credit where it is due. Some vintage photos will make it in if sent. When I finalize the price breaks I'll come to the group, give prices, and ask about interest. I also promise that the same cars will not be in the 2013 calender so if your car doesn't make it into the 2012 calender, there's always next year. Please copy both Chris and I on your photos so we don't have to spend our time emailing pictures to each other. Lets get a good mix of cars, to include Specials! Let the picture sending begin! -Ed- From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Mon Jan 9 22:05:49 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 23:05:49 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Rockerarms.com Message-ID: <002301cccf55$85493900$8fdbab00$@rr.com> Has anyone spoken to Rcokerarms.com (formerly rocker arm specialist) in the past two weeks? I've sent them a set of followers to be refinished and I can't reach them by the phone, it has been going directly to voice mail. Thanks, Greg From rocky at spitfire4.com Mon Jan 9 23:46:25 2012 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:46:25 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: One thing to be careful about here -- copyrights. Often trackside photos are taken by professional photographers who expect to be paid when their work is published. Therefore, for any photo sent you need to have, at minimum, the name of the photographer (or sometimes just the agency will do, such as "Photo courtesy of Getty Images"). Then you need to get clearance (permission) from that photographer. Since presumably this is a calendar among individuals of similar amateur persuasion, and nobody or entity is making any real profit off the project, you might be able to get the photo released for free from some photographers, but even for free you should put a photo credit beside the picture. Sometimes when racers buy a photo they also buy a release with it. Then the copyright belongs to the photo subject instead of the photographer and the subject can do whatever he wants with it. However, if known, you should STILL credit the photographer. Yes, even amateur photographers hold a legal copyright to photos they took. Simply put, you cannot use it without permission, and the subject can give that permission only if he has purchased or been given the right to do so (now if his wife shot the picture, don't worry about it -- but give her the photo credit; she'll be thrilled). --Rocky Entriken From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Jan 10 08:13:28 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:13:28 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Just a test setting up new computer program Message-ID: <6A45A73FFC524B3FB8EB618166505D9B@gdhs.local> John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. From greenman62 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 10 11:34:36 2012 From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (Greg Petrolati) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:34:36 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would be happy to provide a number of photos for the calendar for "one time use" at no charge. I have quite a few shots taken over the years... some have been published others haven't seen the light of day. Greg Petrolati Lafayette, Oregon That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... > From: rocky at spitfire4.com > To: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net; SeaCubeCo at aol.com > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:46:25 -0600 > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? > > One thing to be careful about here -- copyrights. > > Often trackside photos are taken by professional photographers who expect to > be paid when their work is published. Therefore, for any photo sent you need > to have, at minimum, the name of the photographer (or sometimes just the > agency will do, such as "Photo courtesy of Getty Images"). Then you need to > get clearance (permission) from that photographer. Since presumably this is > a calendar among individuals of similar amateur persuasion, and nobody or > entity is making any real profit off the project, you might be able to get > the photo released for free from some photographers, but even for free you > should put a photo credit beside the picture. > > Sometimes when racers buy a photo they also buy a release with it. Then the > copyright belongs to the photo subject instead of the photographer and the > subject can do whatever he wants with it. However, if known, you should > STILL credit the photographer. > > Yes, even amateur photographers hold a legal copyright to photos they took. > Simply put, you cannot use it without permission, and the subject can give > that permission only if he has purchased or been given the right to do so > (now if his wife shot the picture, don't worry about it -- but give her the > photo credit; she'll be thrilled). > > --Rocky Entriken > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62 at hotmail.com From cartravel at pobox.com Tue Jan 10 11:48:33 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:48:33 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Pictures for the FOT calender needed! In-Reply-To: <1326167031.78590.YahooMailClassic@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326167031.78590.YahooMailClassic@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F0C8801.7040004@pobox.com> Feel free to use any of mine from the 2010 event. They are still up on flickr. On 9/7/2010 10:39 AM, Larry Young wrote: > Better slow than never. I took a bunch of photos, with the new camera > that I'm still learning to use. These were shot with a telephoto and a > wide field of view to capture the action. I then cropped every photo. > That's my excuse for why it took so long. Unfortunately, some are a bit > fuzzy. Sorry, if there weren't very many of your car. I tend to favor > my mates. I'll try to do better next year. -Larry > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/53707928 at N02/sets/ On 1/9/2012 9:43 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Okay, it's time for all FOTer's to go through their photo collections > and send Chris Bock and I your favorite pics. We are not going to wait for > this years Kas Cup to run the calender, so if anyone that has a group shot > from the 2011 Cup can send it to us. I'm sure all of you have photos of your > cars. We would like static and action photos. Please give us a > car/driver/event description with your pictures so we can give credit where it > is due. Some vintage photos will make it in if sent. > When I finalize the price breaks I'll come to the group, give prices, and ask > about interest. I also promise that the same cars will not be in the 2013 > calender so if your car doesn't make it into the 2012 calender, there's always > next year. > Please copy both Chris and I on your photos so we don't have to spend our time > emailing pictures to each other. > Lets get a good mix of cars, to include Specials! > Let the picture sending begin! > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jan 10 12:53:01 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:53:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ditto - I have a few thousand to chose from. :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Greg Petrolati wrote: > I would be happy to provide a number of photos for the calendar for "one time > use" at no charge. I have quite a few shots taken over the years... some have > been published others haven't seen the light of day. > > Greg Petrolati Lafayette, Oregon > > > > That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... > > > > > >> From: rocky at spitfire4.com >> To: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net; SeaCubeCo at aol.com >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:46:25 -0600 >> CC: fot at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? >> >> One thing to be careful about here -- copyrights. >> >> Often trackside photos are taken by professional photographers who expect > to >> be paid when their work is published. Therefore, for any photo sent you > need >> to have, at minimum, the name of the photographer (or sometimes just the >> agency will do, such as "Photo courtesy of Getty Images"). Then you need to >> get clearance (permission) from that photographer. Since presumably this is >> a calendar among individuals of similar amateur persuasion, and nobody or >> entity is making any real profit off the project, you might be able to get >> the photo released for free from some photographers, but even for free you >> should put a photo credit beside the picture. >> >> Sometimes when racers buy a photo they also buy a release with it. Then the >> copyright belongs to the photo subject instead of the photographer and the >> subject can do whatever he wants with it. However, if known, you should >> STILL credit the photographer. >> >> Yes, even amateur photographers hold a legal copyright to photos they took. >> Simply put, you cannot use it without permission, and the subject can give >> that permission only if he has purchased or been given the right to do so >> (now if his wife shot the picture, don't worry about it -- but give her the >> photo credit; she'll be thrilled). >> >> --Rocky Entriken >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62 at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang at isis.mit.edu From koblinger at verizon.net Tue Jan 10 13:20:36 2012 From: koblinger at verizon.net (koblinger at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:20:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: <24446103.63593.1326226837072.JavaMail.root@vms170033> From jsiam1 at earthlink.net Wed Jan 11 07:25:34 2012 From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (Joseph Siam) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:25:34 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] Triumph Race with VARA Message-ID: <32222042.1326291935311.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi I would like to invite all you out to help VARA celebrate Triumphs 60th and the 50th for the Spitfire. Along with the usual race run groups we will be having a all Triumph race with trophies and plaques sponsored by Chequered Flag Racing. Trophies will be given out to winners in various classes. I am also working on a participant tee shirt. The two So Cal Triumph clubs have been invited. They will have a Triumph coral. Ten years ago I did the same and we had a fantastic turnout. Event info can be found at www.vararacing.com HIGH DESERT CHALLENGE Willow Springs International Raceway Rosamond, CA (near Lancaster) Mar 31st - April 1st, 2012 Thanks Joe Siam Chequered Flag Racing .net Joseph P. Siam 9833 Deering Ave unit I Chatsworth Ca 91311 818 350 6222 From jason at multivintage.com Fri Jan 13 18:37:19 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:37:19 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Paramount Ranch Message-ID: Amici, Some may know already that I am a fanatical Racing historian, Collector, and life-long Triumph NUT HEAD. Anyway, In my "Ghost Track" interests, I have always been fascinated by Paramount Ranch. I will be on vacation to So.California this week and have my traditional Paramount Ranch track visit and walk around this fabulous place on tab for the morning of Friday, Jan 20th. Any "Triumph Friend" interested in meeting me out there on Friday? If anyone that raced there or even spectated there...were to show up with perspective! Lunch would surely be on me! Overlooking the ocean afterwards... at Neptune's Net in Malibu. California Bound from Chicago! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing From vintage.racer at comcast.net Mon Jan 16 12:02:02 2012 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:02:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <000801ccd481$55299540$ff7cbfc0$@racer@comcast.net> Hello All: I am nominating Richard Jacobs of Redwater, Alberta for a spot in this esteemed group. Richard is beginning a frame up restoration of a TR4 and will no doubt benefit from the advice of our knowledgeable membership. Richard's email is : jacobr3151 at yahoo.com. Do I have a second? Thank you. Gary From alfetta95 at optonline.net Mon Jan 16 12:50:15 2012 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:50:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <1db6d59.3fc2a.134e811ead1.Webtop.21@optonline.net> I second! Welcome Richard. Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS29341 On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Gary Horstkorta wrote: > Hello All: > > > I am nominating Richard Jacobs of Redwater, Alberta for a spot in this > esteemed group. Richard is beginning a frame up restoration of a TR4 > and > will no doubt benefit from the advice of our knowledgeable membership. > Richard's email is : jacobr3151 at yahoo.com. Do I have a second? Thank > you. > > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 16 12:53:00 2012 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:53:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: I'll second the nomination. Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Sent from my ASUS Eee Pad Gary Horstkorta wrote: >Hello All: > > > >I am nominating Richard Jacobs of Redwater, Alberta for a spot in this >esteemed group. Richard is beginning a frame up restoration of a TR4 and >will no doubt benefit from the advice of our knowledgeable membership. >Richard's email is : jacobr3151 at yahoo.com. Do I have a second? Thank you. > > > >Gary >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel at sbcglobal.net From wes at hsrca.org.au Tue Jan 17 00:50:26 2012 From: wes at hsrca.org.au (Wes Dayton) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:50:26 +1100 Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads Message-ID: My TR3A race car has been converted to TR6 calipers. I have on the shelf a new pair of shoes that I bought several years ago and wonder why I've never used them! They are labeled "KFP Magnum Pads" and the very faded writing on the box looks like it says "KFP5076" and then "??? (Gold). Any ideas? Or any recommendations for a purely racing TR? Wes Dayton From jacobr3151 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 04:44:52 2012 From: jacobr3151 at yahoo.com (Richard Jacob) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 03:44:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] advice required Message-ID: <1326800692.40956.YahooMailNeo@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello All, I have a TR4 which I am redoing. I have taken body off frame and have completed sandblasting and painting of frame. I am acquiring components so I can restart assembly to frame. I have some questions seeking advice #1 my car has lever rear shocks, how can I tell if these require to be reconditioned? what type/brand name oil can I use for these shocks? if they require to be reconditioned, any suggestions where to get this done? #2 my car has a solid rigid axle which has been removed with the rear end as one component, I have not taken off the rear end cover plate yet but I plan to so I can do an inspection, what should I think about replacing as per seals/bearing etc, since the rear end assembly is now out of the car? should I replace the rear end oil with standard gear oil or any other suggestions? any other other helpful suggestions with regards to inspection/etc would be appreciated? #3 I am replacing front coils any suggestions with regards to what front shocks I should be using? I would like to thank you in advance for your time and knowledge. Regards Richard From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Jan 17 07:26:57 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:26:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brakes Message-ID: <0BFDE985501A4B059659D20855A3A77E@gdhs.local> Where can one obtain some "proper" rear brake shoe linings? Carbotec is out of material and won't have any new material for quite some time. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Jan 17 07:53:12 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:53:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads References: Message-ID: <2DE7179A1CFA457A975E4EE75EB4EE31@owner8914bbf7f> You might call Ted Schumacher. I think he sells them. 800 543-6648. Or call KFP 330 453-9757. Or Google them. KFP are supposed to be pretty good products. Good luck. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Dayton" To: "FOT" Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:50 AM Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads > My TR3A race car has been converted to TR6 calipers. I have on the shelf a > new pair of shoes that I bought several years ago and wonder why I've > never > used them! They are labeled "KFP Magnum Pads" and the very faded writing > on > the box looks like it says "KFP5076" and then "??? (Gold). > > Any ideas? Or any recommendations for a purely racing TR? > > Wes Dayton > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Jan 17 07:55:47 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:55:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brakes References: <0BFDE985501A4B059659D20855A3A77E@gdhs.local> Message-ID: Ted Schumacher does relines. Also Porterfield in California. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "john hasty" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: [Fot] Brakes > Where can one obtain some "proper" rear brake shoe linings? Carbotec is > out > of material and won't have any new material for quite some time. > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) > is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information > that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Jan 17 08:26:29 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:26:29 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120117152643.E90671878F3@autox.team.net> No idea what those are, but I run Carbotech AX-6 compound in my TR-4 and am very happy with that compound. Easy on the rotors, stops good, no fade, no warmup needed. Tony Drews At 01:50 AM 1/17/2012, Wes Dayton wrote: >My TR3A race car has been converted to TR6 calipers. I have on the shelf a >new pair of shoes that I bought several years ago and wonder why I've never >used them! They are labeled "KFP Magnum Pads" and the very faded writing on >the box looks like it says "KFP5076" and then "??? (Gold). > >Any ideas? Or any recommendations for a purely racing TR? > >Wes Dayton From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Tue Jan 17 11:45:29 2012 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:45:29 -0800 Subject: [Fot] advice required In-Reply-To: <1326800692.40956.YahooMailNeo@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1326800692.40956.YahooMailNeo@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0d6201ccd548$2ffaf800$8ff0e800$@rr.com> > I have a TR4 which I am redoing. Is this a restoration, "driver", or race car? > my car has lever rear shocks, how can I tell if these require to be > reconditioned? One clue is if they are oily outside, or low on oil. A leak at the shaft indicates a rebuild. You can also clamp the shock upright by the ears (not the body) in a vise and move the lever throughout its range. After a few cycles, you should feel strong, smooth resistance to movement throughout the stroke. If there are places that are harder or easier, or the lever moves easily, the shock needs attention. My opinion, you should plan on removing the top and operating valve (plug on the side), cleaning as best you can without disassembling, and filling with fresh oil before doing this test. > what > type/brand name oil can I use for these shocks? Many LBC vendors sell "Armstrong shock oil". Personally, I use motorcycle fork oil (don't recall the brand) which is available in a variety of grades for more or less damping effort. Original was about 20 weight, I use 30 weight in my "driver". Had to find a "Harley" shop to get 30 weight as most modern bikes use much thinner oil. > what should I think about > replacing as per seals/bearing etc, since the rear end assembly is now > out of the car? Look at the gear teeth, if you can see any metal worn away (rather than just shiny spots), or if the faces are at all rough, pitted, grooved, etc. then it needs a total overhaul with a new gear set. I failed to take my own advice recently, and the howl is really unpleasant. Turn each shaft by hand. Some resistance is OK, but it must be perfectly smooth. Any roughness or tight spots again indicates a rebuild. If that all looks good, I would replace the inner seals at each wheel, and the pinion (input) shaft seal, as a matter of course. Don't forget to check and adjust the end play after installing both axles. Definitely replace the oil! For restoration or a "driver", I recommend Valvoline 75W90 full synthetic gear oil in the diff. No doubt others are good too, but I ran the SynPower for many years (and miles) in my TR3A and it worked very well, IMO. (I wish now I hadn't sold that axle, it was a lot better than the one I just put in the TR3) I'm not a racer (yet), so I'll let others comment on what they use in their race cars. > #3 I am replacing front coils any suggestions with > regards to > what front shocks I should be using? That depends a great deal on the answer to what you are building (and what springs you are using). For a restoration or driver, the stock shocks from the usual suspects (Moss, TRF, VB) should do fine. I tried some Spax adjustable and I'm not happy with them at the moment as I haven't (as yet) been able to get them adjusted to match. -- Randall From jsiam1 at earthlink.net Wed Jan 18 06:14:07 2012 From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (Joseph Siam) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:14:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire caliper brackets Message-ID: <6524751.1326892447324.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi I am still in need of early Spitfire caliper brackets. They are a separate piece that bolts to the vertical link it has 4 holes the 4 hole flange area is square. The GT6 one is round. Thanks Joe Chequered Flag Racing .net Joseph P. Siam 9833 Deering Ave unit I Chatsworth Ca 91311 818 350 6222 From dos_gusanos at msn.com Wed Jan 18 16:09:59 2012 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:09:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Want to buy TR6 ring and pinion Message-ID: I THINK I have the 4.1 in my car based on the rev's at cruising and the way the speedometer acts. There's lots of slop in the setup and I would like to go back to the lower ratio. Anybody want to unload one? Has anyone bought the 3:45 setup on ebay? only $300? Cheers Henry Morrison From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Wed Jan 18 19:59:11 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:59:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Want to buy TR6 ring and pinion References: Message-ID: Henry, is the slop in the R&P, or the side/pinion gears? I may have a lower raatio one lying around. I'd also like to try a 4:1sometime. Maybe we could trade. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Morrison" To: "fot" Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:09 PM Subject: [Fot] Want to buy TR6 ring and pinion >I THINK I have the 4.1 in my car based on the rev's at cruising and the way > the speedometer acts. There's lots of slop in the setup and I would like > to > go back to the lower ratio. Anybody want to unload one? Has anyone > bought > the 3:45 setup on ebay? only $300? > > Cheers Henry Morrison > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From gt6steve at aol.com Thu Jan 19 14:34:52 2012 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:34:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] eb136 Message-ID: <8CEA509507D38B0-1668-4E20@webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com> Hello, do you recognize me? http://sdawholesale.com/forthehorde.php?fakyidname=70 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:34:51 __________________ " Portuguese^ Espargo" (c) PETER vlaggenparade From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Jan 20 12:20:53 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:20:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] PHOENIX Message-ID: <8CEA5BFC2BD3CCE-2464-1088C@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> Just hammered a TR3 at $54,000 at Goodings....moments ago. Saw Tim and Andy....they look very important in their suits. We are more comfortable.....so is John Nikas and Casey Annis. Good to see our friends........................auction summary: Barrett-Jackson was like the IOWA STATE FAIR without the pigs and sheep. RM was very elegant, well done and amazing. Goodings is a smaller version of RM and delightful as we are welcome everywhere. Silver Auctions is the auction for the great unwashed and not to be missed... We are missing RUSSO AND STEELE and BOTHAMS...... Another great adventure....... for elderly FOTs, Joe Alexander Tom Chandler Kent Howard From budscars at comcast.net Fri Jan 20 13:02:36 2012 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:02:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] PHOENIX References: <8CEA5BFC2BD3CCE-2464-1088C@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <41FD67333E0E4F108E9D87F8E1F65A66@Bud> Have fun Gang!!!..Rock On! Racer Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: [Fot] PHOENIX > Just hammered a TR3 at $54,000 at Goodings....moments ago. > > Saw Tim and Andy....they look very important in their suits. > > We are more comfortable.....so is John Nikas and Casey Annis. > > Good to see our friends........................auction summary: > > Barrett-Jackson was like the IOWA STATE FAIR without the pigs and sheep. > > RM was very elegant, well done and amazing. > > Goodings is a smaller version of RM and delightful as we are welcome > everywhere. > > Silver Auctions is the auction for the great unwashed and not to be > missed... > > We are missing RUSSO AND STEELE and BOTHAMS...... > > Another great adventure....... for elderly FOTs, > > Joe Alexander > Tom Chandler > Kent Howard > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars at comcast.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Jan 21 08:33:53 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:33:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FOT Mitty update Message-ID: 2012 Kastner Cup / Mitty Update. Right now we have 41 drivers hoping to attend. It is not too late to get your name added to the shirt if you are planning on attending let me know. I have been in discussion with Classic Motorsports and they are interested in putting a photo spread on the Mitty.com web site of all the FOT attending. Maybe we could do the same thing on the FOT web site. I will be coordinating this. So, if you are planning on running at the Mitty email me some pictures. Pictures of you and your car, pictures of your car, pictures of your crew, whatever you have that would be appropriate. Send them to me at trmarty at hotmail.com with Mitty pictures in the subject line so I know what all the attachments are that start showing up. The sooner the better. As far as the shirts, there is still time to order your 2012 Kastner Cup shirts. There is still time to order FOT shirts also but we are a ways off from hitting the minimum buy quantity of 48 shirts on those. Marty From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sat Jan 21 09:52:01 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:52:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LSD Message-ID: Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill From spitlist at cox.net Sat Jan 21 10:32:41 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:32:41 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <951C751A93F24AC5BDC1BEBE1BE7D808@Vista> I think you are talking about "Phantom Grip". It amounts to spring loade blocks that are installed between the spider gears and is supposed to create a limited slip diff. Trust me, it is more "Phantom" than grip and the people who have tried it and think it does any good are falling for the placebo effect. I tried one and did not see any difference in that and running an open diff. JOe -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of william r tobin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:52 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LSD Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Jan 21 10:50:00 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty HSR License Info Message-ID: Below is a reply from Judy Marchione, HSR Registrar in regards to my question to her as to if my VRG license would be accepted at the Mitty. "Yes, you can race on your VRG license. You will enter as a non-member on the entry form and enclose a copy of your VRG license with your entry" Marty From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Sat Jan 21 12:40:58 2012 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:40:58 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20120121194629.3AF4D187667@autox.team.net> In a search for Firm Grip I didn't find anything. If it is similar to the phantom grip it will likely be rubbish. Some time ago I looked into the phantom grip and the user feedback was as expected, it's junk that doesn't do what they claim. I ended up with a quaiffe which works great in the IRS cars. Jim G -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of william r tobin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:52 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LSD Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Jan 21 13:15:10 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:15:10 +0100 Subject: [Fot] LSD In-Reply-To: <20120121194629.3AF4D187667@autox.team.net> References: <20120121194629.3AF4D187667@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <000101ccd879$6310ce70$29326b50$@com> As for Phantom grip: The name is program: With phantom grip, grip remains a phantom. You'll better get a real LSD or weld up your diff as I did (recommendation by Kas when I looked for a LSD). Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Jim Gray Gesendet: Samstag, 21. Januar 2012 20:41 An: 'william r tobin'; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] LSD In a search for Firm Grip I didn't find anything. If it is similar to the phantom grip it will likely be rubbish. Some time ago I looked into the phantom grip and the user feedback was as expected, it's junk that doesn't do what they claim. I ended up with a quaiffe which works great in the IRS cars. Jim G -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of william r tobin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:52 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LSD Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sun Jan 1 11:45:24 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:45:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] timing cover Message-ID: Hi All, I sent out an e-mail yesterday, but it must have been too big to go through. On my TR6 timing cover, I sketched out about where the chain and top gear were located, and used a 3 3/4 inch hole saw to cut a large hole in the timing cover. I drilled some small holes in the cover and brazed some 10-32 machine screws to the inside of the cover, about 3/4 inch long. Facing out naturally. I then took some 1/4 inch aluminum flat stock and cut a 4 3/4 inch round piece. I matched the large piece to the machine screws and drilled holes in the large piece (the cover). And made a gasket to go with it.Threre's a fair amount of room between the chain/sprocket and the cover, so there wasn't a problem with interference with the brazed screws. From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sun Jan 1 11:54:52 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:54:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] page 2 Message-ID: <3598A488B43B45D0B47CA21D1C3F3428@owner8914bbf7f> As Paul Harvey would say, page 2. To change your cam timing, remove the 10-32 nuts holding the round cover on, and remove the cover. The adjustment vernier should be right there. Adjust and replace the cover. Easy job. When I was doing this the first time, I wasn't sure I was right. I talked to Sam Halkias and he said that's what he did! So if Sam does it that way........ I have a friend in Erie who has a metal supply/fabrication business. He lets me scrounge around his scrap metal and sells me what I need. I also have a milling machine, lathe, and other assorted equipment to help me in my projects. Hope this makes sense. Happy New Year. Bill From gaf3 at charter.net Mon Jan 2 04:48:09 2012 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:48:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR 4A or TR250 Body Tub Needed Message-ID: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> groups I'm in the process of what was suppose to be finishing a restoration on a TR250 basket case for a club member. In the process of peeling back the skin on this thing, I have discovered the horrors of incompetence and ignorance. Because the previous owners had no clue as how do body work, at least a 2-3 thousand dollars in sheet metal needs to be replaced. everything from the b posts back and left front corner needs to be replaced. I'm trying to save this car and save the owner some money in the process because it is a TR250 and fairly rare. I have the floors and rocker panels since most of these cars regardless of condition need these replaced anyways. The outer skin is OK as well as the doors. If any of you have or know of a decent boy tub out there or could put your feelers out I would appreciate it. I'm located in Southeast Michigan and will travel within a reasonable distance to pick it up. Thanks in advance Glenn Franco Too Many TR's including 2 TR250's From tr4racing at googlemail.com Mon Jan 2 05:02:34 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:02:34 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Happy New Year! In-Reply-To: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> References: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> Message-ID: <000501ccc946$6b10f970$4132ec50$@com> To all..... Thought was missing at FOT :-) Cheers Chris From jeff_durant at comcast.net Mon Jan 2 08:04:55 2012 From: jeff_durant at comcast.net (jeff_durant at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR 4A or TR250 Body Tub Needed In-Reply-To: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> Message-ID: <1395391705.82883.1325516695223.JavaMail.root@sz0175a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Glenn, I know it's far away but I know of a '67 TR4A tub in good shape in Northern CA.B It is missing a front valance and outer sheet metal but is otherwise is good shape.B B A long way to be shipping to be sure but a good tub. Let me know if nothing else turns up. Regards, Jeff Durant '67 TR4A '68 TR250 '69 TR6 #12 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Franco" To: "Friends of triumph" , 6pack at autox.team.net, snydley at comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 3:48:09 AM Subject: [Fot] TR 4A or TR250 Body Tub Needed groups I'm in the process of what was suppose to be finishing a restoration on a TR250 basket case for a club member. In the process of peeling back the skin B on this thing, I have discovered the horrors of incompetence and ignorance. Because the previous owners had no clue as how do body work, at least a 2-3 thousand dollars in sheet metal needs to be replaced. everything from the b posts back and B left front corner needs to be replaced. I'm trying B to save this car and save the owner some money in the process because it is a TR250 and fairly rare. I have the floors and rocker panels since most of these cars regardless of condition need these replaced anyways. The outer skin is OK as well as the doors. If any of you have or know of a decent boy tub out there or could put your feelers out I would appreciate it. I'm located in Southeast Michigan and will travel within a reasonable distance to pick it up. Thanks in advance Glenn Franco Too Many TR's B including 2 TR250's _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant at comcast.net From loddtr at aol.com Mon Jan 2 12:38:22 2012 From: loddtr at aol.com (loddtr at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:38:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Invitation: Sixth Annual Martha McDougal Triumph Ghetto Event at VIR Message-ID: <8CE979D38C72A61-DDC-7229B@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> The Triumph Ghetto is pleased to announce that they will award the Sixth Annual Martha McDougal Trophy, as part of the 2012 VDCA Wild Hare Run, at Virginia International Raceway. The dates for this year's event are April 13th through the 15th. Mark your calendar now and join your fellow Triumph racers at this prestigious event. The Wild Hare features generous amounts of track time, including a free enduro, on one of the most challenging long tracks in the country. Topping off the weekend will be the presentation of the coveted "Martha" trophy to the Triumph racer that displays a high level of performance on track, camaraderie in the paddock and general good-guy/gal-ness. In addition to the standard fun on and off the track, the Ghetto will provide their world famous surf and turf dinner on Friday evening. Mark your calendars and watch for posting of the entry form at the link below. We look forward to seeing you there. http://www.vintagedrive.com/ The TR Ghetto PS: Here is Martha's story This race weekend honors Ms. Martha McDougal, a woman who toiled in almost total obscurity for many years at the Triumph automobile plant in Coventry, England. According to sources believed to be reliable, Martha was born in Coventry in January, 1923. Her parents were tragically killed in the Blitz and Martha was left an orphan at age 16. Although she was not overly bright, she was very resourceful and within months had gotten a job at the Standard Triumph factory emptying the dust bins. Throughout the war and until the demise of the company, Martha made the rounds, day after day, month after month, year after year, transferring the trash into her cart and then into the large bins behind the factory, without complaint or even one day's absence. Over the years Martha became known as the single person who had completed the most "laps" of the Triumph factory and, upon her retirement a few months before the final closing of the Coventry plant, she was honored with a bronzed pair of high top Keds, her signature footwear. It is rumored that at the presentation, Sir John himself reminisced about how Martha, who had an endearing habit of assigning nicknames to all the staff, would push past him in the hallway and mumble, "Get out of my way you fat bastard". From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Mon Jan 2 19:24:07 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:24:07 -0600 Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver Message-ID: <000701ccc9be$c58e7a80$50ab6f80$@rr.com> We are in the process of helping my father-in-law clean out his house and stumbled across subject magazines dating back to the 70s. If anyone knows of a library or museum wanting such collections I am all ears. If we don't get the whole collection offed to one location, I'll be willing to ship you a specific issue that you may need. I'll send them to you if you pick up the shipping cost. Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so same offer... Thanks, Greg From BillDentin at aol.com Tue Jan 3 08:34:27 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:34:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver Message-ID: <8c39.48096d22.3c347a03@aol.com> In a message dated 01/02/2012 8:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, ablake2 at austin.rr.com writes: > <<< Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so same > offer...>>> > Ah so. Clearly, a classic, multifaceted, renaissance man, who knows what's important. My kind of people. Bill (Damdinger) From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Jan 4 12:00:15 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:00:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] BARRETT/JACKSON SCOTTSDALE Message-ID: <8CE992A3A87B53B-5F0-8C722@webmail-d174.sysops.aol.com> FOT Tom Chandler and I plan to attend B-J on the 15th/16th of January. Will travel by way of Albuquerque from Iowa. Anyone else going to be there? Joe Alexander From 1964spitfire at pacbell.net Wed Jan 4 12:02:29 2012 From: 1964spitfire at pacbell.net (Tim Pettenati) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:02:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver In-Reply-To: <000701ccc9be$c58e7a80$50ab6f80$@rr.com> References: <000701ccc9be$c58e7a80$50ab6f80$@rr.com> Message-ID: <1325703749.68660.YahooMailRC@web180310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The San Diego Auto Museum may be interested. They take donated magazines and sell them to raise money. I picked a few issues of Sports Car from the 60's last time I was there. They also have a research library with many old magazines. You'd probably have to ship on your dime. Possibly a tax deduction? Regards, Tim ________________________________ From: Greg & Alison Blake To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, January 2, 2012 6:24:07 PM Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver We are in the process of helping my father-in-law clean out his house and stumbled across subject magazines dating back to the 70s. If anyone knows of a library or museum wanting such collections I am all ears. If we don't get the whole collection offed to one location, I'll be willing to ship you a specific issue that you may need. I'll send them to you if you pick up the shipping cost. Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so same offer... Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/1964spitfire at pacbell.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Wed Jan 4 16:35:44 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:35:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty Message-ID: As of tonight 37 cars and growing. Still room on the shirt for your name! No Brits yet. Just out of curiosity, what is the largest turnout we have had at a FOT event? Anybody know? Marty From jkhagen at charter.net Wed Jan 4 16:54:00 2012 From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:54:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever Message-ID: <7bfaa129.dc3e7.134ab24c587.Webtop.49@charter.net> Hi Gang, See attached --odd request--need early Spit/Herald tie rod link[or steering lever] --but it bends away from rotor--[TVR uses TR-4 rotors]--Has [Stanpart-stamp on it so it is some kind of O.E. part]--any clues?? Rimmer Bros--have early Spit parts but straight lever only--HELP--John Hagen 763-684-1617 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/02/2012 8:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, > ablake2 at austin.rr.com writes: > > >> <<< Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so >> same offer...>>> >> > Ah so. Clearly, a classic, multifaceted, renaissance man, who knows > what's important. > > My kind of people. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Jan 4 17:35:59 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:35:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CE99592143FFA5-5F0-90621@webmail-d174.sysops.aol.com> Marty....thanks..... probably Mid-Ohio with 40 plus, but i dont know for sure. i am waiting for a reply from Keith Files on the Brit status. there was planning to provide some coordination with the Brits, but it hasnt happened. the last i heard was that they filled the LORRIE with EIGHT TRIUMPHS like at MID-OHIO. btw, Kas and I are presently working on the venue and sanctioning body for 2013 and plan to announce it at THE MITTY. -----Original Message----- From: marty sukey To: FOT Sent: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 5:53 pm Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty As of tonight 37 cars and growing. Still room on the shirt for your name! No Brits yet. Just out of curiosity, what is the largest turnout we have had at a FOT event? Anybody know? Marty _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From malaboge at aol.com Wed Jan 4 21:25:53 2012 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 23:25:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever In-Reply-To: <7bfaa129.dc3e7.134ab24c587.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <7bfaa129.dc3e7.134ab24c587.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <8CE99793F1AB26C-1D5C-8681B@webmail-d133.sysops.aol.com> John- Yeah I've never figgered what those Hoo Hill crazies used on the TVR either...its not Lotus either. BUT, I did manage to duplicate one by using a straight one of the correct length and applying the ole heat n bend routine. Still on the car an still workin. Maybe the Hokey Pokey IS what its all about... Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: jkhagen To: BillDentin Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 4:22 pm Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever Hi Gang, See attached --odd request--need early Spit/Herald tie rod ink[or steering lever] --but it bends away from rotor--[TVR uses TR-4 otors]--Has [Stanpart-stamp on it so it is some kind of O.E. part]--any lues?? Rimmer Bros--have early Spit parts but straight lever nly--HELP--John Hagen 763-684-1617 From jkhagen at charter.net Thu Jan 5 09:10:30 2012 From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:10:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever Message-ID: <4688f977.e2f31.134aea2c606.Webtop.47@charter.net> Try again--some did not recieve image???? Sorry--- Hi Gang, See attached --odd request--need early Spit/Herald tie rod link[or steering lever] --but it bends away from rotor--[TVR uses TR-4 rotors]--Has [Stanpart-stamp on it so it is some kind of O.E. part]--any clues?? Rimmer Bros--have early Spit parts but straight lever only--HELP--John Hagen 763-684-1617 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/02/2012 8:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, > ablake2 at austin.rr.com writes: > > >> <<< Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so >> same offer...>>> >> > Ah so. Clearly, a classic, multifaceted, renaissance man, who knows > what's important. > > My kind of people. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jan 5 18:38:45 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:38:45 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever In-Reply-To: <4688f977.e2f31.134aea2c606.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <4688f977.e2f31.134aea2c606.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <4F0650A5.70104@bradakis.com> jkhagen at charter.net wrote: > Try again--some did not recieve image???? Sorry--- The email list manager is set to strip attachments. One can use the Team.Net forums to post pictures. Link down there at the bottom for those on the real time list, not sure if I added it to the digest. I should write up a quick guide to using the forums - yep, RealSoonNow. mjb. From horizonracing at msn.com Fri Jan 6 12:25:10 2012 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 11:25:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Car hauler for sale Message-ID: Hi All, We are selling our 2001 F650 custom and 3 car 40ft trailer. $26.000 obo Please contact me off list for futher details. Thank you Tony Garmey 206 612 1782 From jason at multivintage.com Fri Jan 6 15:15:35 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 16:15:35 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Message-ID: A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. www.botchagaloop.net These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. Thanks again, Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Fri Jan 6 17:36:36 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Robert Kramer) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 18:36:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of slides are pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about Action Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to late 60's. They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 4:16 PM To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. www.botchagaloop.net These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. Thanks again, Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From spitlist at cox.net Fri Jan 6 20:56:38 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:56:38 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 50th Anniversary Spitfire commemorative stickers Message-ID: I am now ready to do the production run of stickers and want to see if there are any others who want to get in on this one-time production. As I discussed previously, I can do three sizes as follows: (A) 11.6" wide x 6.3" high @ $25.00 each (B) 10 " wide x 5.5" high @ 22.50 each (C) 6.75" wide x3.75" high @ 12.00 each So far I have had the following people preorder decals. Bob Davis (2 of size A and 2 of size C) John Fridirici (4 of size C) Christopher Boch (2 of size C) Rocky Entriken (5 of size C) George Harmuth (4 of size C) Dick Ross (1 of size C) Elizabeth Chandler (1 of size C) I will print at least 25 decals so if I don't get any more orders, I will likely have 2 or three left over in case someone didn't get the word in time. So, if anybody else wants to get in on this production run, please let me know by the middle if next week with a notification of size and quantity. I will be sending out individual email messages to those who have preordered detailing payment instructions and asking for shipping addresses. Regards, Joe Curry From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat Jan 7 04:33:29 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:33:29 +1000 Subject: [Fot] TR250 TR5 accessory driving light Message-ID: i have found 2 of the original Lucas rectangular driving lights. these were listed a factory option on the TR5 so maybe TR250???. does anyone have a pic of how they were fitted??. I've found a pic of a bracket in a 1967 Lucas catalogue but I still cant work out if they were above or below the front bar. any help appreciated thanks, Terry From BillDentin at aol.com Sat Jan 7 08:19:50 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:19:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Message-ID: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> In a message dated 01/06/2012 7:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, rkramer3 at austin.rr.com writes: > This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of slides are > pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about Action > Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to late 60's. > They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? > Bob... While I've never heard of them myself, Rockford, Illinois is a stone's throw from Blackhawk Farms Raceway (South Beloit, Illinois), so someone around here ought to know something. I'll do some checking. Bill Dentinger From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Jan 7 08:46:22 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:46:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup and FOT shirt orders Message-ID: Just an update. Minimum order on the shirts is 48 each. We have made the minimum on the Katsner Cup shirts but only have request for 11 of the FOT shirts. If your thinking you want one of the FOT shirts speak up. So far we have 40 names going on the back of the Kastner Cup shirts which translates into 40 cars at the event with 3 months to go yet, pretty cool. Marty From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Sat Jan 7 09:19:14 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Robert Kramer) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:19:14 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> Message-ID: <4C69822E604943C09EB496FA7B36BB50@latitudefb1e41> Bill, I got some of these with the car and some from Ken Stewart, the son of the original owner. Ken took his driver's school in my TR4A back in the 60's. I sent Tom a couple of scans of some proofs I have from my TR4A late last night. Apparently he doesn't sleep :-) He has found an interesting newspaper article referencing that David Donahue was also looking for Action Limited. I have enough scans to know that they were at the 1967 ARRC in Daytona and the 1968 ARRC in Riverside. There are also some from some tracks that are not those two. It would seem that the photographer from Action Limited took photos at major SCCA events and gave the drivers proofs to choose from. It might be an incredible stash of photos. The most interesting thing about these proofs is that the car that I bought a couple of years ago for my son to race, the blue #67 TR4 was also at Daytona in 1967, and we are pretty sure it is the car in the background of the now67big.jpg proof based on the distinctive number circle and the lettering on the rear fenders. Joe Hines was sponsored by Troncalli Motors for the ARRC. I love looking at old pictures! Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin at aol.com [mailto:BillDentin at aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 9:20 AM To: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com; jason at multivintage.com; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In a message dated 01/06/2012 7:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, rkramer3 at austin.rr.com writes: This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of slides are pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about Action Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to late 60's. They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? Bob... While I've never heard of them myself, Rockford, Illinois is a stone's throw from Blackhawk Farms Raceway (South Beloit, Illinois), so someone around here ought to know something. I'll do some checking. Bill Dentinger [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of BW6nov68.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of C2nov68.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Crss4a.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of nov67big.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Joe Hines TR4 (2).jpg] From silvio at koelbelco.com Sat Jan 7 10:41:52 2012 From: silvio at koelbelco.com (Silvio DeBartolomeis) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:41:52 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR250 TR5 accessory driving light Message-ID: <00c001cccd63$9db079b8$0302010a@koelbel.local> Enquiries Road & Track wrote: i have found 2 of the original Lucas rectangular driving lights. these were listed a factory option on the TR5 so maybe TR250???. does anyone have a pic of how they were fitted??. I've found a pic of a bracket in a 1967 Lucas catalogue but I still cant work out if they were above or below the front bar. any help appreciated thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/silvio at koelbelco.com From koblinger at verizon.net Sat Jan 7 11:00:09 2012 From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:00:09 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > www.botchagaloop.net > > These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing > lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch > some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with > photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that > tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there > are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > > > Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from > the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of > history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time > over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > Thanks again, > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Jan 7 11:51:35 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:51:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> Message-ID: <8CE9B8483EC8603-1B14-9CCF1@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> Sounds like the makings of a book here in the FOT RANKS. A photo book on Triumphs? We have printer in the Triumph fold. -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Oblinger To: fot Sent: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:28 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > www.botchagaloop.net > > These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing > lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch > some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with > photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that > tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there > are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > > > Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from > the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of > history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time > over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > Thanks again, > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Sat Jan 7 11:55:30 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:55:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back digital images and what the cost would be? I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in the Smithsonian. ~Steve On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > www.botchagaloop.net > > These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's > racing > lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to > catch > some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies > (also with > photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship > action that > tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph > fan... there > are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > > > Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's > group) from > the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove > of > history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my > spare time > over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > Thanks again, > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sat Jan 7 12:53:03 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:53:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just pay and get it over with. I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? Chris On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back digital images and what the cost would be? > I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in the Smithsonian. > > ~Steve > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: > > Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. > > Cheers, > Kurt O. > > On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. >> www.botchagaloop.net >> >> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality >> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing >> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch >> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with >> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that >> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there >> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. >> >> >> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from >> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of >> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time >> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. >> Thanks again, >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com From mlcooknj at msn.com Sat Jan 7 13:59:53 2012 From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:59:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> References: , <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net>, <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net>, <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: There is a device on the market that will scan 35 mm slides and save directly to your computer. I bought one on Sale at Bed Bath & Beyond a couple of years ago for under $100. It does both slides and negatives Now the confession: I haven't used it yet! But I have spoken to people who have. It's called a VuPoint. Works with Windows XP and Vista Mike Cook> From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:53:03 -0500 > To: colordog.1 at earthlink.net > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos > > I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something > close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it > myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just > pay and get it over with. > > I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? > > Chris > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > > Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back > digital images and what the cost would be? > > I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in > the Smithsonian. > > > > ~Steve > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: > > > > Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my > collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. > All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 > mainly. > > > > Cheers, > > Kurt O. > > > > On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > >> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > >> www.botchagaloop.net > >> > >> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > >> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's > racing > >> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch > >> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with > >> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that > >> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... > there > >> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > >> > >> > >> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from > >> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of > >> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time > >> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > >> Thanks again, > >> Jason Ostrowski > >> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj at msn.com From koblinger at verizon.net Sat Jan 7 14:44:54 2012 From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:44:54 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4F08BCD6.2000006@verizon.net> I know people who have used Scan Cafe and are happy with the results. However, I'm not comfortable with the idea of sending my stuff half-way around the world to be scanned. I have a Canon 9950f flatbed scanner that can scan a variety of film sizes. It can scan 12 35mm slides in one (very slow) pass and outputs individual files for each slide. From there I bring them into Photoshop Elements for cleanup and correction. I am probably going to pop for Adobe Lightroom here soon as it has some nice organizational features. I have a domain name registered and server space available courtesy of a friend who runs a web server out of his house for fun. Here are a few samples of what I've scanned so far. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/townsendlolawm.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/manselllotuswm.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/296/efrspitfirepc9.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/tulliustr8ti6.jpg/ I have more on my Facebook page for those of you who do that. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/7/2012 10:55 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: > Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and > get back digital images and what the cost would be? > I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image > collection in the Smithsonian. > > ~Steve > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: > > Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just > liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to > get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, > SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. > > Cheers, > Kurt O. > > On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. >> www.botchagaloop.net >> >> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality >> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's >> racing >> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to >> catch >> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also >> with >> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action >> that >> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... >> there >> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. >> >> >> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) >> from >> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of >> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare >> time >> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. >> Thanks again, >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Sat Jan 7 15:06:43 2012 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:06:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FW: Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Message-ID: <002b01cccd88$a3f301c0$ebd90540$@rr.com> Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos There's also a device I have used that is fairly inexpensive and does a reasonable job. Adesso EZ Scan 1000. Scans both slides and 35mm roll film both positive and negative. It puts the prints where you direct it, I did the HD in jpeg format. The device is ~$59 and seemingly the best price was at Amazon!. I had a bunch of 40+ year old slides it had no problem with. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 From billdentin at aol.com Sat Jan 7 15:10:45 2012 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:10:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: References: , <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net>, <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net>, <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE9BA056A95A4E-1140-694E7@webmail-m087.sysops.aol.com> <<< There is a device on the market that will scan 35 mm slides and save directly o your computer. I bought one on Sale at Bed Bath & Beyond a couple of years go for under $100. It does both slides and negatives Now the confession: I haven't used it yet! But I have spoken to people who ave. It's called a VuPoint. Works with Windows XP and Vista Mike Cook> From: ike...>>> I have one as well, and while it works fine, it is a tedious process especially with the quantities mentioned. Years ago a scanner I purchased also had an attachment that would scan slides. I still have it but the scanner no longer works. Bill Dentinger From jhhasty at gdhs.com Sat Jan 7 15:51:59 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan Message-ID: Guys... Starting my first engine tear down and can't get the stock fan mount off. Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? If so how can you get it off? Heat? Sawsaw? I don't need it to replace. From TR3driver at ca.rr.com Sat Jan 7 16:31:30 2012 From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:31:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> > Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder > have threads? Yes. It's a great big bolt that reaches through the center of the fan extension and threads into the nose of the crankshaft. You'll likely need a 6-point socket to grab the head (due to the rounded corners). > If > so how can you get it off? Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver stuck in the flywheel teeth. -- Randall From cartravel at pobox.com Sat Jan 7 16:49:35 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:49:35 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: <4F08DA0F.2080507@pobox.com> I scanned a bunch of slides last winter, including the four rolls I took in 1968, when I toured Europe in my TR250. Flatbed scanners really suck for doing slides. You have to have a dedicated 35mm scanner (for slides or negatives). These have recently come down to within my price range. I first borrowed a Nikon scanner, but then bought an OpticFilm scanner. I scanned most of mine at 4795x3145, which is half the max resolution. I've been amazed at being able to zoom in and read small road signs, etc. Mine has a holder for four slides. It is a bit tedious, but not much worse than scanning stuff on a flatbed scanner. Besides, you can do it while you are doing something else, like watching the NFL playoffs. Larry Young On 1/7/2012 1:53 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something > close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it > myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just > pay and get it over with. > > I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? > > Chris > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > >> Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back > digital images and what the cost would be? >> I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in > the Smithsonian. >> ~Steve >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: >> >> Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my > collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. > All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 > mainly. >> Cheers, >> Kurt O. >> >> On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >>> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. >>> www.botchagaloop.net >>> >>> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality >>> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's > racing >>> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch >>> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with >>> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that >>> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... > there >>> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. >>> >>> >>> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from >>> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of >>> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time >>> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. >>> Thanks again, >>> Jason Ostrowski >>> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com From jason at multivintage.com Sat Jan 7 17:00:19 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 18:00:19 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > > > so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need some > way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver stuck in > the flywheel teeth. > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the flywheel can be damaged easily. Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. Jason. FGR > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From ac at camoletti.ch Sat Jan 7 17:35:19 2012 From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:35:19 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch> There are tools to hold the flywheel without damaging it. I remember LISLE stuff: effective and costing little (10 or 20). I have one and it works well! Cheers ! Alex (the Swiss one) -----Message d'origine----- De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Jason Ostrowski Envoyi : dimanche 8 janvier 2012 01:00 @ : Randall Cc : fot at autox.team.net Objet : Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > > > so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need > some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > stuck in the flywheel teeth. > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the flywheel can be damaged easily. Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. Jason. FGR > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 7 19:16:17 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Delap) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:16:17 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch> Message-ID: Better still - take the oil pan off - keep the crank from turning with a block of wood between it and the block. On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:35 PM, "Alexandre Camoletti" wrote: > There are tools to hold the flywheel without damaging it. > I remember LISLE stuff: effective and costing little (10 or 20). I have one > and it works well! > Cheers ! > Alex (the Swiss one) > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la > part de Jason Ostrowski > Envoyi : dimanche 8 janvier 2012 01:00 > @ : Randall > Cc : fot at autox.team.net > Objet : Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > >> >>> so how can you get it off? >> >> Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need >> some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver >> stuck in the flywheel teeth. >> > > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the > flywheel can be damaged easily. > Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. > > Jason. > FGR > > >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net From kaskas at cox.net Sat Jan 7 20:20:04 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 03:20:04 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: , <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall>, , <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch>, Message-ID: If you still have the gearbox attached, pull the box cover and push the selectors rings into two gears, that will hold anything. Just remmeber what you did and pull out one of the gears. i used a big brass drift to put the box into the two gears at once. bang bang and it's done. Never be beaten by equipment > From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:16:17 -0600 > To: ac at camoletti.ch > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan > > Better still - take the oil pan off - keep the crank from turning with a block > of wood between it and the block. > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:35 PM, "Alexandre Camoletti" wrote: > > > There are tools to hold the flywheel without damaging it. > > I remember LISLE stuff: effective and costing little (10 or 20). I have one > > and it works well! > > Cheers ! > > Alex (the Swiss one) > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la > > part de Jason Ostrowski > > Envoyi : dimanche 8 janvier 2012 01:00 > > @ : Randall > > Cc : fot at autox.team.net > > Objet : Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > > > >> > >>> so how can you get it off? > >> > >> Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need > >> some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > >> stuck in the flywheel teeth. > >> > > > > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the > > flywheel can be damaged easily. > > Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. > > > > Jason. > > FGR > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas at cox.net From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Jan 8 03:41:24 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:41:24 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan Message-ID: If the engine is inside the car, 4th gear, hand brake and a long wrench will do it. If the engine is outside the car, remove the oil pan, a piece od wood next to the crank to block it will do it. Cheers Chris ------Originalnachricht------ Von: John Hasty Absender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Tr4 fan Gesendet: 7. Jan. 2012 23:51 Guys... Starting my first engine tear down and can't get the stock fan mount off. Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? If so how can you get it off? Heat? Sawsaw? I don't need it to replace. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone From tr4.tony at virgin.net Sun Jan 8 04:07:56 2012 From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (TR4 Tony) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:07:56 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64014CD4-AF3B-44A7-A075-6F8525531868@virgin.net> John If the car is together put it in 4th and chock or strap the rear wheels down to your floor or ramp, take the bonnet off and use the biggest ratchet you have with a scaffold bar over the end of the handle. Put an old cushion over the inner wing on the side the pole will fall. As you swing like a monkey on the end of the pole you will feel it give then the job is nearly done. Wind out as normal from then on. The thread is a unf and gets bound tight ... Throwing on some heat with a torch or a chemical releaser will help too. Normally the hub is a tight interference fit too, so you need to carefully extract this to avoid mulls ring the end of the crank. Happy days. Tony Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jan 2012, at 22:51, John Hasty wrote: > Guys... Starting my first engine tear down and can't get the stock fan mount > off. Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? If > so how can you get it off? Heat? Sawsaw? I don't need it to replace. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sun Jan 8 08:24:03 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:24:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: Amici Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I nominated myself. Chris. From tony at tonydrews.com Sun Jan 8 08:24:47 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:24:47 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: <20120108152459.ED8061878BD@autox.team.net> There's a local outfit that will scan slides for $0.16 each - as long as they are loaded into a carousel already. Jack purchased a Canon flatbed slide scanner that will do 12 slides in a slow pass. I just used it last weekend to scan some slides he somehow missed. I could see it being pretty time consuming to do many of them. Tony At 01:53 PM 1/7/2012, Christopher Bock wrote: >I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something >close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it >myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just >pay and get it over with. > >I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? > >Chris From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Jan 8 08:55:31 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:55:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CE9C35145020D6-7F8-1B509@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> It's voluntary stuff like this that adds great value to the non-organization of the FOT. The Kastner Cup would be a great place to start the picture/people process. It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to organize a group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge...... Thanks Chris.... -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bock To: FoTTriumph Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 9:44 am Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Amici Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I nominated myself. Chris. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From trmarty at hotmail.com Sun Jan 8 09:17:16 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:17:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <8CE9C35145020D6-7F8-1B509@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> References: , <8CE9C35145020D6-7F8-1B509@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I second the nomination :). It would also be cool to have individual photos of people and their cars. Marty > To: SeaCubeCo at aol.com; fot at autox.team.net > From: n197tr4 at cs.com > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:55:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? > > It's voluntary stuff like this that adds great value to the non-organization > of the FOT. > > The Kastner Cup would be a great place to start the picture/people process. > > It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to organize a > group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge...... > > Thanks Chris.... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Bock > To: FoTTriumph > Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 9:44 am > Subject: [Fot] Calendar? > > > Amici > > Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? > > > Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I > nominated myself. > > > Chris. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty at hotmail.com From cwnfot at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 09:23:05 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:23:05 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty, slides... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201ccce21$cdcf76b0$696e6410$@com> Is Vern Brannon signed on (hopefully)? Thanks everyone for enjoying my slide collection (and those of my friends) and website! Sometimes a cold winter produces results! You'll find copies on various historical sites worldwide! I had some fun with Bob Tullius at Lime Rock in 2011. Always had a smile on his face! Hope to see you all at the Mitty! Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From BillDentin at aol.com Sun Jan 8 09:28:49 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:28:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: <1058e.67a2997d.3c3b1e41@aol.com> In a message dated 01/08/2012 10:12:04 AM Central Standard Time, n197tr4 at cs.com writes: > <<< It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to > organize a > group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge......>>> > I have three mounted/framed panographes from previous TRIUMPH featured events at Mid-Ohio in 1992, 1998, and 2002. I also have the 1992 poster (signed by all of the drivers and folks like Bob Tullius and Smokey Yunik) mounted/framed. If I use my enclosed trailer to get to Atlanta, maybe I could bring them for display purposes to generate interest in a calendar effort. Bill From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Jan 8 09:41:53 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:41:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] PANOGRAPH/PHOTO SHOOT at KASTNER CUP VOLUNTEERS? In-Reply-To: <1058e.67a2997d.3c3b1e41@aol.com> References: <1058e.67a2997d.3c3b1e41@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE9C3B8FCBAF21-7F8-1BA73@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> Bill, bringing the great looking panographs to Road Atlanta would be nice to do in any case. Sean & I treasure our three panographs. Now who will volunteer to organize the panograph guy and/or the photo shoot? This is a lot of work to organize and execute, but this event is way too big to let this go by. Please report in to our event Chair.....Henry Frye. BTW, Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer, the elder statesmen of the FOT will both be running the Kastner Cup. -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin To: n197tr4 Cc: fot Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 10:28 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? In a message dated 01/08/2012 10:12:04 AM Central Standard Time, n197tr4 at cs.com writes: <<< It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to organize a group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge......>>> I have three mounted/framed panographes from previous TRIUMPH featured events at Mid-Ohio in 1992, 1998, and 2002. I also have the 1992 poster (signed by all of the drivers and folks like Bob Tullius and Smokey Yunik) mounted/framed. If I use my enclosed trailer to get to Atlanta, maybe I could bring them for display purposes to generate interest in a calendar effort. Bill From lunkercars at earthlink.net Sun Jan 8 10:37:44 2012 From: lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg ''Lunker'' Hilyer) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:37:44 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <22070712-97DA-44AC-96CC-89B68997E4F4@earthlink.net> It's interesting how many ways there are to skin a cat. Here's my version [engine in car]: Get your 6pt socket and breaker bar, wedge it against the floor or frame rail and bump the starter - done! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Randall wrote: >> Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder >> have threads? > > Yes. It's a great big bolt that reaches through the center of the fan > extension and threads into the nose of the crankshaft. You'll > likely need a > 6-point socket to grab the head (due to the rounded corners). > >> If >> so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll > need some > way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > stuck in > the flywheel teeth. > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > lunkercars at earthlink.net From cartravel at pobox.com Sun Jan 8 11:24:14 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 12:24:14 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 Message-ID: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to modify it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly original, the FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, where do the 6 cylinder guys hang out? '68 was the first year the emission laws started to take their toll on performance, as evidenced by the TR5 vs TR250. I would like to make it perform better, while keeping a stock looking engine appearance. I'm thinking along the lines of the 125 mph car that Kas did for publicity back in the day. My thoughts at this point are to increase the compression to the limits imposed by pump gas. Change to a longer duration cam, i.e. more like the early PI cam. I'm not sure how to tune the nonadjustable carbs when the engine is modified. I was also thinking about getting rid of the wacky ignition retard, but continuing to use the vacuum advance. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can accomplish my goal within the limits I've imposed? I have an old Cam Doctor that I have used to look at several TR3/4 cams. I have a fairly popular webpage on those cams at www.TildenTechnologies.com. .As part of this effort, I'd like to do some research and a similar page for 6 cylinder cams. Does anyone have an early PI cam that I could borrow to analyze for this effort? Or, perhaps other street performance cams? Thanks, Larry Young From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Sun Jan 8 11:23:18 2012 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 12:23:18 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <22070712-97DA-44AC-96CC-89B68997E4F4@earthlink.net> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> <22070712-97DA-44AC-96CC-89B68997E4F4@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402684FCE@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> << Get your 6pt socket and breaker bar, wedge it against the floor or frame rail and bump the starter >> ...to which I have to add "having first determined that the direction of rotation will hold the breaker bar against the floor or frame rail and not, say, fling it at the light fixture or other valuable and delicate item." Not that I've done that. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg ''Lunker'' Hilyer Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 11:38 AM To: Randall Cc: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan It's interesting how many ways there are to skin a cat. Here's my version [engine in car]: Get your 6pt socket and breaker bar, wedge it against the floor or frame rail and bump the starter - done! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Randall wrote: >> Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? > > Yes. It's a great big bolt that reaches through the center of the fan > extension and threads into the nose of the crankshaft. You'll likely > need a 6-point socket to grab the head (due to the rounded corners). > >> If >> so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need > some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > stuck in the flywheel teeth. > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > lunkercars at earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/scott.barr at mccarty-law.com From tr4.tony at virgin.net Sun Jan 8 11:07:19 2012 From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (TR4 Tony) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:07:19 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72CE7BF6-E800-466A-8DB2-727EAF6EC1D6@virgin.net> Yeah I'm up for one of those Sent from my iPhone On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? > > > Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I > nominated myself. > > > Chris. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net From macdonaldp at rogers.com Sun Jan 8 11:49:48 2012 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:49:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 In-Reply-To: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> References: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Message-ID: <002801ccce36$4c6a6a20$e53f3e60$@rogers.com> http://www.6-pack.org/j15/ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Young Sent: January 8, 2012 1:24 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to modify it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly original, the FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, where do the 6 cylinder guys hang out? '68 was the first year the emission laws started to take their toll on performance, as evidenced by the TR5 vs TR250. I would like to make it perform better, while keeping a stock looking engine appearance. I'm thinking along the lines of the 125 mph car that Kas did for publicity back in the day. My thoughts at this point are to increase the compression to the limits imposed by pump gas. Change to a longer duration cam, i.e. more like the early PI cam. I'm not sure how to tune the nonadjustable carbs when the engine is modified. I was also thinking about getting rid of the wacky ignition retard, but continuing to use the vacuum advance. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can accomplish my goal within the limits I've imposed? I have an old Cam Doctor that I have used to look at several TR3/4 cams. I have a fairly popular webpage on those cams at www.TildenTechnologies.com. .As part of this effort, I'd like to do some research and a similar page for 6 cylinder cams. Does anyone have an early PI cam that I could borrow to analyze for this effort? Or, perhaps other street performance cams? Thanks, Larry Young _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sun Jan 8 12:04:58 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:04:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <72CE7BF6-E800-466A-8DB2-727EAF6EC1D6@virgin.net> References: <72CE7BF6-E800-466A-8DB2-727EAF6EC1D6@virgin.net> Message-ID: <9102D996-C559-4083-8281-6B4070A49762@aol.com> Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. Like my life isn't busy enough! Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? >> >> >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I >> nominated myself. >> >> >> Chris. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 12:24:44 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 12:24:44 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 In-Reply-To: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> References: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4F09ED7C.1030102@bradakis.com> Larry Young wrote: > Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the > restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is > very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to > modify it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly > original, the FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, > where do the 6 cylinder guys hang out? Team.Net has both the triumphs and 6pack lists ( http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo ) though there is more activity on the 6pack forum they have set up. I know I have a link here somewhere... mjb. From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sun Jan 8 14:46:14 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:46:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage Message-ID: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video surfaced on another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the greatest driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car footage Ruby was also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the 4:10 point of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 24 Hours of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if there was some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas would know who it is. I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were having in the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an interesting guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita Falls, Texas you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he passed two years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded -Ed- From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sun Jan 8 15:32:03 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:32:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <9102D996-C559-4083-8281-6B4070A49762@aol.com> Message-ID: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chris and group: At the risk of stepping on toes, I will step up to the calender plate since I have yet to do anything but reap the knowledge and friendships of this group. I co-publish the calenders for our local TR club. We have just (last month) published our fourth calender year, and the pictures get better every year. We have a great printer who does them quickly, at a reasonable price. We print 75 copies for a membership of about 100-110. They cost less then $10.00 each. We start to collect membership photos in January, firm up the selection in November, and turn them in to the printer the first of December. We start selling them at the December club meeting the second week in December. I use a lot of pictures of cars that come into the shop for service, so even if we don't get pictures turned in by the car owners, we still get a lot of pictures. If you would like me to do it I would ask list members to turn in photos from events they attend as drivers, workers, or spectators. These would get cataloged and the selection made by photo quality, content, and car model so we would have a good sampling of the FOT cars. Of course, with the number of FOTer's we can order more calenders at a better price with any profits going to support Mark B's never-ending efforts. If this meets every ones approval I can start to collect pictures. Respectfully - Ed Barnard --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Christopher Bock wrote: From: Christopher Bock Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? To: "TR4 Tony" Cc: "FoTTriumph" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:04 PM Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. Like my life isn't busy enough! Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? >> >> >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I >> nominated myself. >> >> >> Chris. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sun Jan 8 15:59:37 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:59:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40DC2EC1-5227-4324-9463-587641B18AA8@aol.com> I will gladly hand over the reins on this one. Thanks ED for offering. I was going to have the Kastner Cup top three and their cars for the month of the Cup race. Thanks again Ed Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:32 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Chris and group: At the risk of stepping on toes, I will step up to the calender plate since I have yet to do anything but reap the knowledge and friendships of this group. I co-publish the calenders for our local TR club. We have just (last month) published our fourth calender year, and the pictures get better every year. We have a great printer who does them quickly, at a reasonable price. We print 75 copies for a membership of about 100-110. They cost less then $10.00 each. We start to collect membership photos in January, firm up the selection in November, and turn them in to the printer the first of December. We start selling them at the December club meeting the second week in December. I use a lot of pictures of cars that come into the shop for service, so even if we don't get pictures turned in by the car owners, we still get a lot of pictures. > If you would like me to do it I would ask list members to turn in photos from events they attend as drivers, workers, or spectators. These would get cataloged and the selection made by photo quality, content, and car model so we would have a good sampling of the FOT cars. > Of course, with the number of FOTer's we can order more calenders at a better price with any profits going to support Mark B's never-ending efforts. > If this meets every ones approval I can start to collect pictures. > Respectfully - Ed Barnard > > --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Christopher Bock wrote: > > From: Christopher Bock > Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? > To: "TR4 Tony" > Cc: "FoTTriumph" > Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:04 PM > > Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. > > Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to > put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. > > > I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little > description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures > please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and > "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. > > > There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is > ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. > > > Like my life isn't busy enough! > > Chris > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > > > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > > > >> Amici > >> > >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? > >> > >> > >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess > I > >> nominated myself. > >> > >> > >> Chris. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 8 16:32:04 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 15:32:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1326065524.13983.YahooMailRC@web181307.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Go ED! What size pictures do you need? (500KB big enough?) Chris and group: At the risk of stepping on toes, I will step up to the calender plate since I have yet to do anything but reap the knowledge and friendships of this group. I co-publish the calenders for our local TR club. We have just (last month) published our fourth calender year, and the pictures get better every year. We have a great printer who does them quickly, at a reasonable price. We print 75 copies for a membership of about 100-110. They cost less then $10.00 each. We start to collect membership photos in January, firm up the selection in November, and turn them in to the printer the first of December. We start selling them at the December club meeting the second week in December. I use a lot of pictures of cars that come into the shop for service, so even if we don't get pictures turned in by the car owners, we still get a lot of pictures. If you would like me to do it I would ask list members to turn in photos from events they attend as drivers, workers, or spectators. These would get cataloged and the selection made by photo quality, content, and car model so we would have a good sampling of the FOT cars. Of course, with the number of FOTer's we can order more calenders at a better price with any profits going to support Mark B's never-ending efforts. If this meets every ones approval I can start to collect pictures. Respectfully - Ed Barnard --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Christopher Bock wrote: From: Christopher Bock Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? To: "TR4 Tony" Cc: "FoTTriumph" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:04 PM Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. Like my life isn't busy enough! Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? >> >> >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I >> nominated myself. >> >> >> Chris. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_6694.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_6693.jpg] From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Sun Jan 8 16:42:37 2012 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:42:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical writing in the same Newsletter, T On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > surfaced on > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > greatest > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > footage Ruby was > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > 4:10 point > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > 24 Hours > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > there was > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > would know who > it is. > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > having in > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > interesting > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > Falls, Texas > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > passed two > years ago. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Sun Jan 8 17:10:03 2012 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:10:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> References: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <96F6ACBD-67E1-49AA-B868-7968D18AC003@columbus.rr.com> Sorry it was March 54 Newsletter . I had a page stuck in my hard copy of these..... here is the newsletter http://www.templeoftriumph.org/tsoa/TSOA0109/TSOA0364.pdf T On Jan 8, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Tom Householder wrote: > Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 > finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill > Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 > Ferarris, 3 AC Cobras, and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a Lotus > Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo > 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring > Sprite. See Mar. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph > site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for > Technical writing in the same Newsletter, > > T > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > >> Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video >> surfaced on >> another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the >> greatest >> driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car >> footage Ruby was >> also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At >> the 4:10 point >> of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or >> 1965 24 Hours >> of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if >> there was >> some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas >> would know who >> it is. >> I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were >> having in >> the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an >> interesting >> guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita >> Falls, Texas >> you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he >> passed two >> years ago. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded >> >> -Ed- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ >> trhouse at columbus.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Sun Jan 8 17:23:24 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Robert Kramer) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:23:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <694C1768DE86488FBFC3E4E2E2B21EE3@latitudefb1e41> Jim McAndrew of Tyler TX has a TR3 that matches that description. I know it was raced by those guys. Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Householder Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43 PM To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Old sports car footage Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical writing in the same Newsletter, T On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > surfaced on > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > greatest > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > footage Ruby was > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > 4:10 point > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > 24 Hours > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > there was > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > would know who > it is. > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > having in > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > interesting > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > Falls, Texas > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > passed two > years ago. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sun Jan 8 18:41:22 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:41:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <694C1768DE86488FBFC3E4E2E2B21EE3@latitudefb1e41> Message-ID: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group: Isn't the collective knowledge of this group spectacular! An outsider would surely think we all need to get a life :O) -Ed- --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Robert Kramer wrote: From: Robert Kramer Subject: RE: [Fot] Old sports car footage To: "'Tom Householder'" , "'EDWARD BARNARD'" Cc: "'FOT'" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 6:23 PM Jim McAndrew of Tyler TX has a TR3 that matches that description. I know it was raced by those guys. Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Householder Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43 PM To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Old sports car footage Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical writing in the same Newsletter, T On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > surfaced on > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > greatest > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > footage Ruby was > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > 4:10 point > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > 24 Hours > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > there was > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > would know who > it is. > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > having in > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > interesting > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > Falls, Texas > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > passed two > years ago. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 19:17:30 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F0A4E3A.8080109@bradakis.com> EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Isn't the collective knowledge of this group spectacular! An outsider > would surely think we all need to get a life :O) > This *is* a life! They're the ones with the problem! mjb. From jason at multivintage.com Sun Jan 8 19:12:58 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:12:58 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <694C1768DE86488FBFC3E4E2E2B21EE3@latitudefb1e41> <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You want spectacular... 40 Triumph cars. Each holding a bit of that collective knowledge. Driving for a chance to win the Kastner Cup... The most coveted award in Triumph Racing. Spectacular indeed! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:41 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Isn't the collective knowledge of this group spectacular! An > outsider > would surely think we all need to get a life :O) > -Ed- > > --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Robert Kramer wrote: > > > From: Robert Kramer > Subject: RE: [Fot] Old sports car footage > To: "'Tom Householder'" , "'EDWARD BARNARD'" > > Cc: "'FOT'" > Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 6:23 PM > > > Jim McAndrew of Tyler TX has a TR3 that matches that description. I know it > was raced by those guys. > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3 at austin.rr.com > Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch > excellence. > > Vince Lombardi > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tom Householder > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43 PM > To: EDWARD BARNARD > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Old sports car footage > > Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 > finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill > Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 > Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus > Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo > 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. > See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, > Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical > writing in the same Newsletter, > > T > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > > > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > > surfaced on > > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > > greatest > > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > > footage Ruby was > > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > > 4:10 point > > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > > 24 Hours > > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > > there was > > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > > would know who > > it is. > > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > > having in > > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > > interesting > > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > > Falls, Texas > > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > > passed two > > years ago. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > > > -Ed- > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > > trhouse at columbus.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From jdment at suddenlink.net Sun Jan 8 19:32:59 2012 From: jdment at suddenlink.net (James McAndrew) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:32:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage Message-ID: Neat video! Yes, that is my car in the video. I have a copy of the March 1964 TSOA Newsletter (given to me by the former driver of the car, Dana Kelder) that describes the car's participation and Kas' award. Kas was gracious to sign the newsletter for me at the FOT/Kastner Cup event in Oklahoma. My TR3 is also on the cover of Kas' second book: "Kas Kastner's Racing, Winning and Other Myths in TRIUMPH Cars TR-3, TR-4, TR-250, TR-6, GT-6 & Spitfire". Currently the car is going through it's 3rd major rebuild (new roll cage, new fuel cell, redo suspension...). But I'm almost finished with my new shop that will have a lift, so I hope the work will soon progress. Jim McAndrew Tyler, Texas From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Sun Jan 8 20:12:50 2012 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:12:50 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Oil pump query Message-ID: <54E950AC-99A7-4FD4-AD95-9D9A1DD01CE3@earthlink.net> Happy New Year all, I've only used stock oil pumps in the past for the TR4, but recently came across something different. The outer rotor has machined "flutes" tapered to a depth of about .060". Although it came with a bunch of used parts, I think its NOS from about 30 years ago. So... typical "hi-flow" that I would want to use? Or a cavitation prone idea that I should stay away from? Even if it's a common piece or something you've never seen either, any input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM Prepping for the Kas Cup at the Mitty - which leads to another question. Can anyone lead me to a good track map of Road Atlanta? The track's web site just shows a basic layout without distances or elevations. Is the back straight a up-hill pull? That might help. But it looks awfully long - as in my 4:10 gears [without overdrive] might be a bit short. From spitlist at cox.net Sun Jan 8 23:07:30 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:07:30 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Jim Gamboney Message-ID: <789F4C95EA054B6591A6E33BF3C94D47@Vista> Sorry to bomb the list but could Jim contact me. Thanks, Joe C. From vintage.racer at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 08:35:18 2012 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale Message-ID: <454048388.540839.1326123318457.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2788069483.html From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Jan 9 09:35:42 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:35:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] THE MITTY HSR MEMBERSHIP? Message-ID: <8CE9D03DD1B6C36-1498-2F8AF@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> The question has come to me about HSR membership for entry at THE MITTY. I am going under the assumption that a current membership and medical in any qualified organization is all that is required. Vintage....VMC....SCCA....FIA. We ARE assuming that the HANS device or it's equivalent IS a requirement and that requirement has not been waived. Can anyone confirm? I am not planning to join HSR. Joe A From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Mon Jan 9 10:04:32 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:04:32 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale References: <454048388.540839.1326123318457.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <418CA81F8F734C52AFC5B5326622EB7E@Charly> I don't recognize this car from the Seattle area, it states located in Northern Cal. but posted in Seattle. I don't recall seeing the cat at Laguna Seca, Who's car is it? Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2788069483.html > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com From budscars at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 10:47:41 2012 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:47:41 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale References: <454048388.540839.1326123318457.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <418CA81F8F734C52AFC5B5326622EB7E@Charly> Message-ID: i believe it's Gary Horskorta's car. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charly Mitchel" To: ; "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale >I don't recognize this car from the Seattle area, it states located in >Northern Cal. but posted in Seattle. I don't recall seeing the cat at >Laguna Seca, Who's car is it? > Charly Mitchel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale > > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2788069483.html >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars at comcast.net From stocktontr4 at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 14:20:32 2012 From: stocktontr4 at gmail.com (dick stockton) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:20:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Walter Mitty former racers Message-ID: Hi all, Jim Taylor (ex national racer from the 60s in a black TR4), Bob Krokus (TR3, ex Group 44), the rest of the Misery Manor gang, and Buzz Marcus (pole '66 Riverside ARRC in my old TR4) will be there with me. - Dick From dos_gusanos at msn.com Mon Jan 9 16:48:14 2012 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:48:14 -0700 Subject: [Fot] How many Teeth on ring gear for 5 speed TR7 Message-ID: Good evening, can't find this one in the book, and was wondering if anyone knew before I started cracking covers and changing gaskets...............Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Mon Jan 9 16:52:51 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:52:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 References: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Message-ID: <442C9133C0A44A7E8B9DE61CC39B134A@owner8914bbf7f> Larry, I'm running Z/S carbs from an earlier TR4, with the adjustments on the bottom of the carbs, on my TR6; seem to work well. I had a minor problem with the linkage and had to fabricate a few items. Also the linkage from the accelerator pedal shaft is different: on the TR6 when you hit the gas, the link to the carbs is pulled rearward on the standard carbs. On the ones I use, the link has to be pushed forward. Solution: loosen the bolt on the arm on the gas pedal linkage, push it downward until it's pointed almost straight down and tighten. When you hit the gas now, the link pushes forward and the carbs are opened. EZ! When fabricating linkage, I clamp a 2x4 in my vise, about 3 feet long, bolt the intake manifold to it, and bolt the carbs to the manifold. Then fabricate the linkage. I told that to a guy at Pegasus one time and he said that's how he does it!---Whatever works. Bill- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" To: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 1:24 PM Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 > Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the > restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is > very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to modify > it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly original, the > FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, where do the 6 > cylinder guys hang out? > > '68 was the first year the emission laws started to take their toll on > performance, as evidenced by the TR5 vs TR250. I would like to make it > perform better, while keeping a stock looking engine appearance. I'm > thinking along the lines of the 125 mph car that Kas did for publicity > back in the day. My thoughts at this point are to increase the > compression to the limits imposed by pump gas. Change to a longer > duration cam, i.e. more like the early PI cam. I'm not sure how to tune > the nonadjustable carbs when the engine is modified. I was also thinking > about getting rid of the wacky ignition retard, but continuing to use the > vacuum advance. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can accomplish > my goal within the limits I've imposed? > > I have an old Cam Doctor that I have used to look at several TR3/4 cams. > I have a fairly popular webpage on those cams at > www.TildenTechnologies.com. .As part of this effort, I'd like to do some > research and a similar page for 6 cylinder cams. Does anyone have an early > PI cam that I could borrow to analyze for this effort? Or, perhaps other > street performance cams? > Thanks, > Larry Young > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Mon Jan 9 19:04:33 2012 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> References: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> Message-ID: The address for "Action limited" crosses to one Richard F Kast and wife Sharon, they sold the house in sept 1970 and were in Green Bay then. tom On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:19 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/06/2012 7:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, > rkramer3 at austin.rr.com writes: > > >> This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of >> slides are >> pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about >> Action >> Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to >> late 60's. >> They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? >> > > Bob... > > While I've never heard of them myself, Rockford, Illinois is a stone's > throw from Blackhawk Farms Raceway (South Beloit, Illinois), so > someone around > here ought to know something. I'll do some checking. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com From tony at tonydrews.com Mon Jan 9 20:39:13 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:39:13 -0600 Subject: [Fot] THE MITTY HSR MEMBERSHIP? In-Reply-To: <8CE9D03DD1B6C36-1498-2F8AF@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE9D03DD1B6C36-1498-2F8AF@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20120110033926.2022E187650@autox.team.net> I've never had to join HSR to race with them at prior events. Same with SVRA. Tony At 10:35 AM 1/9/2012, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote: >The question has come to me about HSR membership for entry at THE MITTY. > >I am going under the assumption that a current membership and medical in any >qualified organization is all that is required. >Vintage....VMC....SCCA....FIA. > >We ARE assuming that the HANS device or it's equivalent IS a requirement and >that requirement has not been waived. > >Can anyone confirm? > >I am not planning to join HSR. > >Joe A >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Mon Jan 9 20:43:51 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:43:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Pictures for the FOT calender needed! Message-ID: <1326167031.78590.YahooMailClassic@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group: Okay, it's time for all FOTer's to go through their photo collections and send Chris Bock and I your favorite pics. We are not going to wait for this years Kas Cup to run the calender, so if anyone that has a group shot from the 2011 Cup can send it to us. I'm sure all of you have photos of your cars. We would like static and action photos. Please give us a car/driver/event description with your pictures so we can give credit where it is due. Some vintage photos will make it in if sent. When I finalize the price breaks I'll come to the group, give prices, and ask about interest. I also promise that the same cars will not be in the 2013 calender so if your car doesn't make it into the 2012 calender, there's always next year. Please copy both Chris and I on your photos so we don't have to spend our time emailing pictures to each other. Lets get a good mix of cars, to include Specials! Let the picture sending begin! -Ed- From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Mon Jan 9 22:05:49 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 23:05:49 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Rockerarms.com Message-ID: <002301cccf55$85493900$8fdbab00$@rr.com> Has anyone spoken to Rcokerarms.com (formerly rocker arm specialist) in the past two weeks? I've sent them a set of followers to be refinished and I can't reach them by the phone, it has been going directly to voice mail. Thanks, Greg From rocky at spitfire4.com Mon Jan 9 23:46:25 2012 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:46:25 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: One thing to be careful about here -- copyrights. Often trackside photos are taken by professional photographers who expect to be paid when their work is published. Therefore, for any photo sent you need to have, at minimum, the name of the photographer (or sometimes just the agency will do, such as "Photo courtesy of Getty Images"). Then you need to get clearance (permission) from that photographer. Since presumably this is a calendar among individuals of similar amateur persuasion, and nobody or entity is making any real profit off the project, you might be able to get the photo released for free from some photographers, but even for free you should put a photo credit beside the picture. Sometimes when racers buy a photo they also buy a release with it. Then the copyright belongs to the photo subject instead of the photographer and the subject can do whatever he wants with it. However, if known, you should STILL credit the photographer. Yes, even amateur photographers hold a legal copyright to photos they took. Simply put, you cannot use it without permission, and the subject can give that permission only if he has purchased or been given the right to do so (now if his wife shot the picture, don't worry about it -- but give her the photo credit; she'll be thrilled). --Rocky Entriken From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Jan 10 08:13:28 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:13:28 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Just a test setting up new computer program Message-ID: <6A45A73FFC524B3FB8EB618166505D9B@gdhs.local> John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. From greenman62 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 10 11:34:36 2012 From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (Greg Petrolati) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:34:36 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would be happy to provide a number of photos for the calendar for "one time use" at no charge. I have quite a few shots taken over the years... some have been published others haven't seen the light of day. Greg Petrolati Lafayette, Oregon That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... > From: rocky at spitfire4.com > To: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net; SeaCubeCo at aol.com > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:46:25 -0600 > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? > > One thing to be careful about here -- copyrights. > > Often trackside photos are taken by professional photographers who expect to > be paid when their work is published. Therefore, for any photo sent you need > to have, at minimum, the name of the photographer (or sometimes just the > agency will do, such as "Photo courtesy of Getty Images"). Then you need to > get clearance (permission) from that photographer. Since presumably this is > a calendar among individuals of similar amateur persuasion, and nobody or > entity is making any real profit off the project, you might be able to get > the photo released for free from some photographers, but even for free you > should put a photo credit beside the picture. > > Sometimes when racers buy a photo they also buy a release with it. Then the > copyright belongs to the photo subject instead of the photographer and the > subject can do whatever he wants with it. However, if known, you should > STILL credit the photographer. > > Yes, even amateur photographers hold a legal copyright to photos they took. > Simply put, you cannot use it without permission, and the subject can give > that permission only if he has purchased or been given the right to do so > (now if his wife shot the picture, don't worry about it -- but give her the > photo credit; she'll be thrilled). > > --Rocky Entriken > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62 at hotmail.com From cartravel at pobox.com Tue Jan 10 11:48:33 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:48:33 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Pictures for the FOT calender needed! In-Reply-To: <1326167031.78590.YahooMailClassic@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326167031.78590.YahooMailClassic@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F0C8801.7040004@pobox.com> Feel free to use any of mine from the 2010 event. They are still up on flickr. On 9/7/2010 10:39 AM, Larry Young wrote: > Better slow than never. I took a bunch of photos, with the new camera > that I'm still learning to use. These were shot with a telephoto and a > wide field of view to capture the action. I then cropped every photo. > That's my excuse for why it took so long. Unfortunately, some are a bit > fuzzy. Sorry, if there weren't very many of your car. I tend to favor > my mates. I'll try to do better next year. -Larry > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/53707928 at N02/sets/ On 1/9/2012 9:43 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Okay, it's time for all FOTer's to go through their photo collections > and send Chris Bock and I your favorite pics. We are not going to wait for > this years Kas Cup to run the calender, so if anyone that has a group shot > from the 2011 Cup can send it to us. I'm sure all of you have photos of your > cars. We would like static and action photos. Please give us a > car/driver/event description with your pictures so we can give credit where it > is due. Some vintage photos will make it in if sent. > When I finalize the price breaks I'll come to the group, give prices, and ask > about interest. I also promise that the same cars will not be in the 2013 > calender so if your car doesn't make it into the 2012 calender, there's always > next year. > Please copy both Chris and I on your photos so we don't have to spend our time > emailing pictures to each other. > Lets get a good mix of cars, to include Specials! > Let the picture sending begin! > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jan 10 12:53:01 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:53:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ditto - I have a few thousand to chose from. :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Greg Petrolati wrote: > I would be happy to provide a number of photos for the calendar for "one time > use" at no charge. I have quite a few shots taken over the years... some have > been published others haven't seen the light of day. > > Greg Petrolati Lafayette, Oregon > > > > That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... > > > > > >> From: rocky at spitfire4.com >> To: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net; SeaCubeCo at aol.com >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:46:25 -0600 >> CC: fot at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? >> >> One thing to be careful about here -- copyrights. >> >> Often trackside photos are taken by professional photographers who expect > to >> be paid when their work is published. Therefore, for any photo sent you > need >> to have, at minimum, the name of the photographer (or sometimes just the >> agency will do, such as "Photo courtesy of Getty Images"). Then you need to >> get clearance (permission) from that photographer. Since presumably this is >> a calendar among individuals of similar amateur persuasion, and nobody or >> entity is making any real profit off the project, you might be able to get >> the photo released for free from some photographers, but even for free you >> should put a photo credit beside the picture. >> >> Sometimes when racers buy a photo they also buy a release with it. Then the >> copyright belongs to the photo subject instead of the photographer and the >> subject can do whatever he wants with it. However, if known, you should >> STILL credit the photographer. >> >> Yes, even amateur photographers hold a legal copyright to photos they took. >> Simply put, you cannot use it without permission, and the subject can give >> that permission only if he has purchased or been given the right to do so >> (now if his wife shot the picture, don't worry about it -- but give her the >> photo credit; she'll be thrilled). >> >> --Rocky Entriken >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62 at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang at isis.mit.edu From koblinger at verizon.net Tue Jan 10 13:20:36 2012 From: koblinger at verizon.net (koblinger at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:20:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: <24446103.63593.1326226837072.JavaMail.root@vms170033> From jsiam1 at earthlink.net Wed Jan 11 07:25:34 2012 From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (Joseph Siam) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:25:34 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] Triumph Race with VARA Message-ID: <32222042.1326291935311.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi I would like to invite all you out to help VARA celebrate Triumphs 60th and the 50th for the Spitfire. Along with the usual race run groups we will be having a all Triumph race with trophies and plaques sponsored by Chequered Flag Racing. Trophies will be given out to winners in various classes. I am also working on a participant tee shirt. The two So Cal Triumph clubs have been invited. They will have a Triumph coral. Ten years ago I did the same and we had a fantastic turnout. Event info can be found at www.vararacing.com HIGH DESERT CHALLENGE Willow Springs International Raceway Rosamond, CA (near Lancaster) Mar 31st - April 1st, 2012 Thanks Joe Siam Chequered Flag Racing .net Joseph P. Siam 9833 Deering Ave unit I Chatsworth Ca 91311 818 350 6222 From jason at multivintage.com Fri Jan 13 18:37:19 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:37:19 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Paramount Ranch Message-ID: Amici, Some may know already that I am a fanatical Racing historian, Collector, and life-long Triumph NUT HEAD. Anyway, In my "Ghost Track" interests, I have always been fascinated by Paramount Ranch. I will be on vacation to So.California this week and have my traditional Paramount Ranch track visit and walk around this fabulous place on tab for the morning of Friday, Jan 20th. Any "Triumph Friend" interested in meeting me out there on Friday? If anyone that raced there or even spectated there...were to show up with perspective! Lunch would surely be on me! Overlooking the ocean afterwards... at Neptune's Net in Malibu. California Bound from Chicago! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing From vintage.racer at comcast.net Mon Jan 16 12:02:02 2012 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:02:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <000801ccd481$55299540$ff7cbfc0$@racer@comcast.net> Hello All: I am nominating Richard Jacobs of Redwater, Alberta for a spot in this esteemed group. Richard is beginning a frame up restoration of a TR4 and will no doubt benefit from the advice of our knowledgeable membership. Richard's email is : jacobr3151 at yahoo.com. Do I have a second? Thank you. Gary From alfetta95 at optonline.net Mon Jan 16 12:50:15 2012 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:50:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <1db6d59.3fc2a.134e811ead1.Webtop.21@optonline.net> I second! Welcome Richard. Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS29341 On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Gary Horstkorta wrote: > Hello All: > > > I am nominating Richard Jacobs of Redwater, Alberta for a spot in this > esteemed group. Richard is beginning a frame up restoration of a TR4 > and > will no doubt benefit from the advice of our knowledgeable membership. > Richard's email is : jacobr3151 at yahoo.com. Do I have a second? Thank > you. > > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 16 12:53:00 2012 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:53:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: I'll second the nomination. Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Sent from my ASUS Eee Pad Gary Horstkorta wrote: >Hello All: > > > >I am nominating Richard Jacobs of Redwater, Alberta for a spot in this >esteemed group. Richard is beginning a frame up restoration of a TR4 and >will no doubt benefit from the advice of our knowledgeable membership. >Richard's email is : jacobr3151 at yahoo.com. Do I have a second? Thank you. > > > >Gary >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel at sbcglobal.net From wes at hsrca.org.au Tue Jan 17 00:50:26 2012 From: wes at hsrca.org.au (Wes Dayton) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:50:26 +1100 Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads Message-ID: My TR3A race car has been converted to TR6 calipers. I have on the shelf a new pair of shoes that I bought several years ago and wonder why I've never used them! They are labeled "KFP Magnum Pads" and the very faded writing on the box looks like it says "KFP5076" and then "??? (Gold). Any ideas? Or any recommendations for a purely racing TR? Wes Dayton From jacobr3151 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 04:44:52 2012 From: jacobr3151 at yahoo.com (Richard Jacob) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 03:44:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] advice required Message-ID: <1326800692.40956.YahooMailNeo@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello All, I have a TR4 which I am redoing. I have taken body off frame and have completed sandblasting and painting of frame. I am acquiring components so I can restart assembly to frame. I have some questions seeking advice #1 my car has lever rear shocks, how can I tell if these require to be reconditioned? what type/brand name oil can I use for these shocks? if they require to be reconditioned, any suggestions where to get this done? #2 my car has a solid rigid axle which has been removed with the rear end as one component, I have not taken off the rear end cover plate yet but I plan to so I can do an inspection, what should I think about replacing as per seals/bearing etc, since the rear end assembly is now out of the car? should I replace the rear end oil with standard gear oil or any other suggestions? any other other helpful suggestions with regards to inspection/etc would be appreciated? #3 I am replacing front coils any suggestions with regards to what front shocks I should be using? I would like to thank you in advance for your time and knowledge. Regards Richard From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Jan 17 07:26:57 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:26:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brakes Message-ID: <0BFDE985501A4B059659D20855A3A77E@gdhs.local> Where can one obtain some "proper" rear brake shoe linings? Carbotec is out of material and won't have any new material for quite some time. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Jan 17 07:53:12 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:53:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads References: Message-ID: <2DE7179A1CFA457A975E4EE75EB4EE31@owner8914bbf7f> You might call Ted Schumacher. I think he sells them. 800 543-6648. Or call KFP 330 453-9757. Or Google them. KFP are supposed to be pretty good products. Good luck. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Dayton" To: "FOT" Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:50 AM Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads > My TR3A race car has been converted to TR6 calipers. I have on the shelf a > new pair of shoes that I bought several years ago and wonder why I've > never > used them! They are labeled "KFP Magnum Pads" and the very faded writing > on > the box looks like it says "KFP5076" and then "??? (Gold). > > Any ideas? Or any recommendations for a purely racing TR? > > Wes Dayton > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Jan 17 07:55:47 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:55:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brakes References: <0BFDE985501A4B059659D20855A3A77E@gdhs.local> Message-ID: Ted Schumacher does relines. Also Porterfield in California. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "john hasty" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: [Fot] Brakes > Where can one obtain some "proper" rear brake shoe linings? Carbotec is > out > of material and won't have any new material for quite some time. > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) > is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information > that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Jan 17 08:26:29 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:26:29 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120117152643.E90671878F3@autox.team.net> No idea what those are, but I run Carbotech AX-6 compound in my TR-4 and am very happy with that compound. Easy on the rotors, stops good, no fade, no warmup needed. Tony Drews At 01:50 AM 1/17/2012, Wes Dayton wrote: >My TR3A race car has been converted to TR6 calipers. I have on the shelf a >new pair of shoes that I bought several years ago and wonder why I've never >used them! They are labeled "KFP Magnum Pads" and the very faded writing on >the box looks like it says "KFP5076" and then "??? (Gold). > >Any ideas? Or any recommendations for a purely racing TR? > >Wes Dayton From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Tue Jan 17 11:45:29 2012 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:45:29 -0800 Subject: [Fot] advice required In-Reply-To: <1326800692.40956.YahooMailNeo@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1326800692.40956.YahooMailNeo@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0d6201ccd548$2ffaf800$8ff0e800$@rr.com> > I have a TR4 which I am redoing. Is this a restoration, "driver", or race car? > my car has lever rear shocks, how can I tell if these require to be > reconditioned? One clue is if they are oily outside, or low on oil. A leak at the shaft indicates a rebuild. You can also clamp the shock upright by the ears (not the body) in a vise and move the lever throughout its range. After a few cycles, you should feel strong, smooth resistance to movement throughout the stroke. If there are places that are harder or easier, or the lever moves easily, the shock needs attention. My opinion, you should plan on removing the top and operating valve (plug on the side), cleaning as best you can without disassembling, and filling with fresh oil before doing this test. > what > type/brand name oil can I use for these shocks? Many LBC vendors sell "Armstrong shock oil". Personally, I use motorcycle fork oil (don't recall the brand) which is available in a variety of grades for more or less damping effort. Original was about 20 weight, I use 30 weight in my "driver". Had to find a "Harley" shop to get 30 weight as most modern bikes use much thinner oil. > what should I think about > replacing as per seals/bearing etc, since the rear end assembly is now > out of the car? Look at the gear teeth, if you can see any metal worn away (rather than just shiny spots), or if the faces are at all rough, pitted, grooved, etc. then it needs a total overhaul with a new gear set. I failed to take my own advice recently, and the howl is really unpleasant. Turn each shaft by hand. Some resistance is OK, but it must be perfectly smooth. Any roughness or tight spots again indicates a rebuild. If that all looks good, I would replace the inner seals at each wheel, and the pinion (input) shaft seal, as a matter of course. Don't forget to check and adjust the end play after installing both axles. Definitely replace the oil! For restoration or a "driver", I recommend Valvoline 75W90 full synthetic gear oil in the diff. No doubt others are good too, but I ran the SynPower for many years (and miles) in my TR3A and it worked very well, IMO. (I wish now I hadn't sold that axle, it was a lot better than the one I just put in the TR3) I'm not a racer (yet), so I'll let others comment on what they use in their race cars. > #3 I am replacing front coils any suggestions with > regards to > what front shocks I should be using? That depends a great deal on the answer to what you are building (and what springs you are using). For a restoration or driver, the stock shocks from the usual suspects (Moss, TRF, VB) should do fine. I tried some Spax adjustable and I'm not happy with them at the moment as I haven't (as yet) been able to get them adjusted to match. -- Randall From jsiam1 at earthlink.net Wed Jan 18 06:14:07 2012 From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (Joseph Siam) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:14:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire caliper brackets Message-ID: <6524751.1326892447324.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi I am still in need of early Spitfire caliper brackets. They are a separate piece that bolts to the vertical link it has 4 holes the 4 hole flange area is square. The GT6 one is round. Thanks Joe Chequered Flag Racing .net Joseph P. Siam 9833 Deering Ave unit I Chatsworth Ca 91311 818 350 6222 From dos_gusanos at msn.com Wed Jan 18 16:09:59 2012 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:09:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Want to buy TR6 ring and pinion Message-ID: I THINK I have the 4.1 in my car based on the rev's at cruising and the way the speedometer acts. There's lots of slop in the setup and I would like to go back to the lower ratio. Anybody want to unload one? Has anyone bought the 3:45 setup on ebay? only $300? Cheers Henry Morrison From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Wed Jan 18 19:59:11 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:59:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Want to buy TR6 ring and pinion References: Message-ID: Henry, is the slop in the R&P, or the side/pinion gears? I may have a lower raatio one lying around. I'd also like to try a 4:1sometime. Maybe we could trade. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Morrison" To: "fot" Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:09 PM Subject: [Fot] Want to buy TR6 ring and pinion >I THINK I have the 4.1 in my car based on the rev's at cruising and the way > the speedometer acts. There's lots of slop in the setup and I would like > to > go back to the lower ratio. Anybody want to unload one? Has anyone > bought > the 3:45 setup on ebay? only $300? > > Cheers Henry Morrison > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From gt6steve at aol.com Thu Jan 19 14:34:52 2012 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:34:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] eb136 Message-ID: <8CEA509507D38B0-1668-4E20@webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com> Hello, do you recognize me? http://sdawholesale.com/forthehorde.php?fakyidname=70 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:34:51 __________________ " Portuguese^ Espargo" (c) PETER vlaggenparade From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Jan 20 12:20:53 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:20:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] PHOENIX Message-ID: <8CEA5BFC2BD3CCE-2464-1088C@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> Just hammered a TR3 at $54,000 at Goodings....moments ago. Saw Tim and Andy....they look very important in their suits. We are more comfortable.....so is John Nikas and Casey Annis. Good to see our friends........................auction summary: Barrett-Jackson was like the IOWA STATE FAIR without the pigs and sheep. RM was very elegant, well done and amazing. Goodings is a smaller version of RM and delightful as we are welcome everywhere. Silver Auctions is the auction for the great unwashed and not to be missed... We are missing RUSSO AND STEELE and BOTHAMS...... Another great adventure....... for elderly FOTs, Joe Alexander Tom Chandler Kent Howard From budscars at comcast.net Fri Jan 20 13:02:36 2012 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:02:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] PHOENIX References: <8CEA5BFC2BD3CCE-2464-1088C@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <41FD67333E0E4F108E9D87F8E1F65A66@Bud> Have fun Gang!!!..Rock On! Racer Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: [Fot] PHOENIX > Just hammered a TR3 at $54,000 at Goodings....moments ago. > > Saw Tim and Andy....they look very important in their suits. > > We are more comfortable.....so is John Nikas and Casey Annis. > > Good to see our friends........................auction summary: > > Barrett-Jackson was like the IOWA STATE FAIR without the pigs and sheep. > > RM was very elegant, well done and amazing. > > Goodings is a smaller version of RM and delightful as we are welcome > everywhere. > > Silver Auctions is the auction for the great unwashed and not to be > missed... > > We are missing RUSSO AND STEELE and BOTHAMS...... > > Another great adventure....... for elderly FOTs, > > Joe Alexander > Tom Chandler > Kent Howard > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars at comcast.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Jan 21 08:33:53 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:33:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FOT Mitty update Message-ID: 2012 Kastner Cup / Mitty Update. Right now we have 41 drivers hoping to attend. It is not too late to get your name added to the shirt if you are planning on attending let me know. I have been in discussion with Classic Motorsports and they are interested in putting a photo spread on the Mitty.com web site of all the FOT attending. Maybe we could do the same thing on the FOT web site. I will be coordinating this. So, if you are planning on running at the Mitty email me some pictures. Pictures of you and your car, pictures of your car, pictures of your crew, whatever you have that would be appropriate. Send them to me at trmarty at hotmail.com with Mitty pictures in the subject line so I know what all the attachments are that start showing up. The sooner the better. As far as the shirts, there is still time to order your 2012 Kastner Cup shirts. There is still time to order FOT shirts also but we are a ways off from hitting the minimum buy quantity of 48 shirts on those. Marty From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sat Jan 21 09:52:01 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:52:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LSD Message-ID: Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill From spitlist at cox.net Sat Jan 21 10:32:41 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:32:41 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <951C751A93F24AC5BDC1BEBE1BE7D808@Vista> I think you are talking about "Phantom Grip". It amounts to spring loade blocks that are installed between the spider gears and is supposed to create a limited slip diff. Trust me, it is more "Phantom" than grip and the people who have tried it and think it does any good are falling for the placebo effect. I tried one and did not see any difference in that and running an open diff. JOe -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of william r tobin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:52 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LSD Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Jan 21 10:50:00 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty HSR License Info Message-ID: Below is a reply from Judy Marchione, HSR Registrar in regards to my question to her as to if my VRG license would be accepted at the Mitty. "Yes, you can race on your VRG license. You will enter as a non-member on the entry form and enclose a copy of your VRG license with your entry" Marty From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Sat Jan 21 12:40:58 2012 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:40:58 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20120121194629.3AF4D187667@autox.team.net> In a search for Firm Grip I didn't find anything. If it is similar to the phantom grip it will likely be rubbish. Some time ago I looked into the phantom grip and the user feedback was as expected, it's junk that doesn't do what they claim. I ended up with a quaiffe which works great in the IRS cars. Jim G -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of william r tobin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:52 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LSD Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Jan 21 13:15:10 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:15:10 +0100 Subject: [Fot] LSD In-Reply-To: <20120121194629.3AF4D187667@autox.team.net> References: <20120121194629.3AF4D187667@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <000101ccd879$6310ce70$29326b50$@com> As for Phantom grip: The name is program: With phantom grip, grip remains a phantom. You'll better get a real LSD or weld up your diff as I did (recommendation by Kas when I looked for a LSD). Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Jim Gray Gesendet: Samstag, 21. Januar 2012 20:41 An: 'william r tobin'; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] LSD In a search for Firm Grip I didn't find anything. If it is similar to the phantom grip it will likely be rubbish. Some time ago I looked into the phantom grip and the user feedback was as expected, it's junk that doesn't do what they claim. I ended up with a quaiffe which works great in the IRS cars. Jim G -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of william r tobin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:52 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LSD Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sun Jan 1 11:45:24 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:45:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] timing cover Message-ID: Hi All, I sent out an e-mail yesterday, but it must have been too big to go through. On my TR6 timing cover, I sketched out about where the chain and top gear were located, and used a 3 3/4 inch hole saw to cut a large hole in the timing cover. I drilled some small holes in the cover and brazed some 10-32 machine screws to the inside of the cover, about 3/4 inch long. Facing out naturally. I then took some 1/4 inch aluminum flat stock and cut a 4 3/4 inch round piece. I matched the large piece to the machine screws and drilled holes in the large piece (the cover). And made a gasket to go with it.Threre's a fair amount of room between the chain/sprocket and the cover, so there wasn't a problem with interference with the brazed screws. From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sun Jan 1 11:54:52 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:54:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] page 2 Message-ID: <3598A488B43B45D0B47CA21D1C3F3428@owner8914bbf7f> As Paul Harvey would say, page 2. To change your cam timing, remove the 10-32 nuts holding the round cover on, and remove the cover. The adjustment vernier should be right there. Adjust and replace the cover. Easy job. When I was doing this the first time, I wasn't sure I was right. I talked to Sam Halkias and he said that's what he did! So if Sam does it that way........ I have a friend in Erie who has a metal supply/fabrication business. He lets me scrounge around his scrap metal and sells me what I need. I also have a milling machine, lathe, and other assorted equipment to help me in my projects. Hope this makes sense. Happy New Year. Bill From gaf3 at charter.net Mon Jan 2 04:48:09 2012 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:48:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR 4A or TR250 Body Tub Needed Message-ID: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> groups I'm in the process of what was suppose to be finishing a restoration on a TR250 basket case for a club member. In the process of peeling back the skin on this thing, I have discovered the horrors of incompetence and ignorance. Because the previous owners had no clue as how do body work, at least a 2-3 thousand dollars in sheet metal needs to be replaced. everything from the b posts back and left front corner needs to be replaced. I'm trying to save this car and save the owner some money in the process because it is a TR250 and fairly rare. I have the floors and rocker panels since most of these cars regardless of condition need these replaced anyways. The outer skin is OK as well as the doors. If any of you have or know of a decent boy tub out there or could put your feelers out I would appreciate it. I'm located in Southeast Michigan and will travel within a reasonable distance to pick it up. Thanks in advance Glenn Franco Too Many TR's including 2 TR250's From tr4racing at googlemail.com Mon Jan 2 05:02:34 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:02:34 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Happy New Year! In-Reply-To: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> References: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> Message-ID: <000501ccc946$6b10f970$4132ec50$@com> To all..... Thought was missing at FOT :-) Cheers Chris From jeff_durant at comcast.net Mon Jan 2 08:04:55 2012 From: jeff_durant at comcast.net (jeff_durant at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR 4A or TR250 Body Tub Needed In-Reply-To: <4F019979.3030301@charter.net> Message-ID: <1395391705.82883.1325516695223.JavaMail.root@sz0175a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Glenn, I know it's far away but I know of a '67 TR4A tub in good shape in Northern CA.B It is missing a front valance and outer sheet metal but is otherwise is good shape.B B A long way to be shipping to be sure but a good tub. Let me know if nothing else turns up. Regards, Jeff Durant '67 TR4A '68 TR250 '69 TR6 #12 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Franco" To: "Friends of triumph" , 6pack at autox.team.net, snydley at comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 3:48:09 AM Subject: [Fot] TR 4A or TR250 Body Tub Needed groups I'm in the process of what was suppose to be finishing a restoration on a TR250 basket case for a club member. In the process of peeling back the skin B on this thing, I have discovered the horrors of incompetence and ignorance. Because the previous owners had no clue as how do body work, at least a 2-3 thousand dollars in sheet metal needs to be replaced. everything from the b posts back and B left front corner needs to be replaced. I'm trying B to save this car and save the owner some money in the process because it is a TR250 and fairly rare. I have the floors and rocker panels since most of these cars regardless of condition need these replaced anyways. The outer skin is OK as well as the doors. If any of you have or know of a decent boy tub out there or could put your feelers out I would appreciate it. I'm located in Southeast Michigan and will travel within a reasonable distance to pick it up. Thanks in advance Glenn Franco Too Many TR's B including 2 TR250's _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant at comcast.net From loddtr at aol.com Mon Jan 2 12:38:22 2012 From: loddtr at aol.com (loddtr at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:38:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Invitation: Sixth Annual Martha McDougal Triumph Ghetto Event at VIR Message-ID: <8CE979D38C72A61-DDC-7229B@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> The Triumph Ghetto is pleased to announce that they will award the Sixth Annual Martha McDougal Trophy, as part of the 2012 VDCA Wild Hare Run, at Virginia International Raceway. The dates for this year's event are April 13th through the 15th. Mark your calendar now and join your fellow Triumph racers at this prestigious event. The Wild Hare features generous amounts of track time, including a free enduro, on one of the most challenging long tracks in the country. Topping off the weekend will be the presentation of the coveted "Martha" trophy to the Triumph racer that displays a high level of performance on track, camaraderie in the paddock and general good-guy/gal-ness. In addition to the standard fun on and off the track, the Ghetto will provide their world famous surf and turf dinner on Friday evening. Mark your calendars and watch for posting of the entry form at the link below. We look forward to seeing you there. http://www.vintagedrive.com/ The TR Ghetto PS: Here is Martha's story This race weekend honors Ms. Martha McDougal, a woman who toiled in almost total obscurity for many years at the Triumph automobile plant in Coventry, England. According to sources believed to be reliable, Martha was born in Coventry in January, 1923. Her parents were tragically killed in the Blitz and Martha was left an orphan at age 16. Although she was not overly bright, she was very resourceful and within months had gotten a job at the Standard Triumph factory emptying the dust bins. Throughout the war and until the demise of the company, Martha made the rounds, day after day, month after month, year after year, transferring the trash into her cart and then into the large bins behind the factory, without complaint or even one day's absence. Over the years Martha became known as the single person who had completed the most "laps" of the Triumph factory and, upon her retirement a few months before the final closing of the Coventry plant, she was honored with a bronzed pair of high top Keds, her signature footwear. It is rumored that at the presentation, Sir John himself reminisced about how Martha, who had an endearing habit of assigning nicknames to all the staff, would push past him in the hallway and mumble, "Get out of my way you fat bastard". From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Mon Jan 2 19:24:07 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:24:07 -0600 Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver Message-ID: <000701ccc9be$c58e7a80$50ab6f80$@rr.com> We are in the process of helping my father-in-law clean out his house and stumbled across subject magazines dating back to the 70s. If anyone knows of a library or museum wanting such collections I am all ears. If we don't get the whole collection offed to one location, I'll be willing to ship you a specific issue that you may need. I'll send them to you if you pick up the shipping cost. Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so same offer... Thanks, Greg From BillDentin at aol.com Tue Jan 3 08:34:27 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:34:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver Message-ID: <8c39.48096d22.3c347a03@aol.com> In a message dated 01/02/2012 8:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, ablake2 at austin.rr.com writes: > <<< Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so same > offer...>>> > Ah so. Clearly, a classic, multifaceted, renaissance man, who knows what's important. My kind of people. Bill (Damdinger) From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Jan 4 12:00:15 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:00:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] BARRETT/JACKSON SCOTTSDALE Message-ID: <8CE992A3A87B53B-5F0-8C722@webmail-d174.sysops.aol.com> FOT Tom Chandler and I plan to attend B-J on the 15th/16th of January. Will travel by way of Albuquerque from Iowa. Anyone else going to be there? Joe Alexander From 1964spitfire at pacbell.net Wed Jan 4 12:02:29 2012 From: 1964spitfire at pacbell.net (Tim Pettenati) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:02:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver In-Reply-To: <000701ccc9be$c58e7a80$50ab6f80$@rr.com> References: <000701ccc9be$c58e7a80$50ab6f80$@rr.com> Message-ID: <1325703749.68660.YahooMailRC@web180310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The San Diego Auto Museum may be interested. They take donated magazines and sell them to raise money. I picked a few issues of Sports Car from the 60's last time I was there. They also have a research library with many old magazines. You'd probably have to ship on your dime. Possibly a tax deduction? Regards, Tim ________________________________ From: Greg & Alison Blake To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, January 2, 2012 6:24:07 PM Subject: [Fot] back issues of Car Craft, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver We are in the process of helping my father-in-law clean out his house and stumbled across subject magazines dating back to the 70s. If anyone knows of a library or museum wanting such collections I am all ears. If we don't get the whole collection offed to one location, I'll be willing to ship you a specific issue that you may need. I'll send them to you if you pick up the shipping cost. Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so same offer... Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/1964spitfire at pacbell.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Wed Jan 4 16:35:44 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:35:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty Message-ID: As of tonight 37 cars and growing. Still room on the shirt for your name! No Brits yet. Just out of curiosity, what is the largest turnout we have had at a FOT event? Anybody know? Marty From jkhagen at charter.net Wed Jan 4 16:54:00 2012 From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:54:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever Message-ID: <7bfaa129.dc3e7.134ab24c587.Webtop.49@charter.net> Hi Gang, See attached --odd request--need early Spit/Herald tie rod link[or steering lever] --but it bends away from rotor--[TVR uses TR-4 rotors]--Has [Stanpart-stamp on it so it is some kind of O.E. part]--any clues?? Rimmer Bros--have early Spit parts but straight lever only--HELP--John Hagen 763-684-1617 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/02/2012 8:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, > ablake2 at austin.rr.com writes: > > >> <<< Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so >> same offer...>>> >> > Ah so. Clearly, a classic, multifaceted, renaissance man, who knows > what's important. > > My kind of people. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Jan 4 17:35:59 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:35:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CE99592143FFA5-5F0-90621@webmail-d174.sysops.aol.com> Marty....thanks..... probably Mid-Ohio with 40 plus, but i dont know for sure. i am waiting for a reply from Keith Files on the Brit status. there was planning to provide some coordination with the Brits, but it hasnt happened. the last i heard was that they filled the LORRIE with EIGHT TRIUMPHS like at MID-OHIO. btw, Kas and I are presently working on the venue and sanctioning body for 2013 and plan to announce it at THE MITTY. -----Original Message----- From: marty sukey To: FOT Sent: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 5:53 pm Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty As of tonight 37 cars and growing. Still room on the shirt for your name! No Brits yet. Just out of curiosity, what is the largest turnout we have had at a FOT event? Anybody know? Marty _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From malaboge at aol.com Wed Jan 4 21:25:53 2012 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 23:25:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever In-Reply-To: <7bfaa129.dc3e7.134ab24c587.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <7bfaa129.dc3e7.134ab24c587.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <8CE99793F1AB26C-1D5C-8681B@webmail-d133.sysops.aol.com> John- Yeah I've never figgered what those Hoo Hill crazies used on the TVR either...its not Lotus either. BUT, I did manage to duplicate one by using a straight one of the correct length and applying the ole heat n bend routine. Still on the car an still workin. Maybe the Hokey Pokey IS what its all about... Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: jkhagen To: BillDentin Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 4:22 pm Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever Hi Gang, See attached --odd request--need early Spit/Herald tie rod ink[or steering lever] --but it bends away from rotor--[TVR uses TR-4 otors]--Has [Stanpart-stamp on it so it is some kind of O.E. part]--any lues?? Rimmer Bros--have early Spit parts but straight lever nly--HELP--John Hagen 763-684-1617 From jkhagen at charter.net Thu Jan 5 09:10:30 2012 From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:10:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever Message-ID: <4688f977.e2f31.134aea2c606.Webtop.47@charter.net> Try again--some did not recieve image???? Sorry--- Hi Gang, See attached --odd request--need early Spit/Herald tie rod link[or steering lever] --but it bends away from rotor--[TVR uses TR-4 rotors]--Has [Stanpart-stamp on it so it is some kind of O.E. part]--any clues?? Rimmer Bros--have early Spit parts but straight lever only--HELP--John Hagen 763-684-1617 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/02/2012 8:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, > ablake2 at austin.rr.com writes: > > >> <<< Oh I almost forgot, he has Playboy going back that far too, so >> same offer...>>> >> > Ah so. Clearly, a classic, multifaceted, renaissance man, who knows > what's important. > > My kind of people. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jan 5 18:38:45 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:38:45 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TVR/Early Spit Tie Rod Steering lever In-Reply-To: <4688f977.e2f31.134aea2c606.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <4688f977.e2f31.134aea2c606.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <4F0650A5.70104@bradakis.com> jkhagen at charter.net wrote: > Try again--some did not recieve image???? Sorry--- The email list manager is set to strip attachments. One can use the Team.Net forums to post pictures. Link down there at the bottom for those on the real time list, not sure if I added it to the digest. I should write up a quick guide to using the forums - yep, RealSoonNow. mjb. From horizonracing at msn.com Fri Jan 6 12:25:10 2012 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 11:25:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Car hauler for sale Message-ID: Hi All, We are selling our 2001 F650 custom and 3 car 40ft trailer. $26.000 obo Please contact me off list for futher details. Thank you Tony Garmey 206 612 1782 From jason at multivintage.com Fri Jan 6 15:15:35 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 16:15:35 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Message-ID: A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. www.botchagaloop.net These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. Thanks again, Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Fri Jan 6 17:36:36 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Robert Kramer) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 18:36:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of slides are pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about Action Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to late 60's. They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 4:16 PM To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. www.botchagaloop.net These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. Thanks again, Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From spitlist at cox.net Fri Jan 6 20:56:38 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:56:38 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 50th Anniversary Spitfire commemorative stickers Message-ID: I am now ready to do the production run of stickers and want to see if there are any others who want to get in on this one-time production. As I discussed previously, I can do three sizes as follows: (A) 11.6" wide x 6.3" high @ $25.00 each (B) 10 " wide x 5.5" high @ 22.50 each (C) 6.75" wide x3.75" high @ 12.00 each So far I have had the following people preorder decals. Bob Davis (2 of size A and 2 of size C) John Fridirici (4 of size C) Christopher Boch (2 of size C) Rocky Entriken (5 of size C) George Harmuth (4 of size C) Dick Ross (1 of size C) Elizabeth Chandler (1 of size C) I will print at least 25 decals so if I don't get any more orders, I will likely have 2 or three left over in case someone didn't get the word in time. So, if anybody else wants to get in on this production run, please let me know by the middle if next week with a notification of size and quantity. I will be sending out individual email messages to those who have preordered detailing payment instructions and asking for shipping addresses. Regards, Joe Curry From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat Jan 7 04:33:29 2012 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:33:29 +1000 Subject: [Fot] TR250 TR5 accessory driving light Message-ID: i have found 2 of the original Lucas rectangular driving lights. these were listed a factory option on the TR5 so maybe TR250???. does anyone have a pic of how they were fitted??. I've found a pic of a bracket in a 1967 Lucas catalogue but I still cant work out if they were above or below the front bar. any help appreciated thanks, Terry From BillDentin at aol.com Sat Jan 7 08:19:50 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:19:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Message-ID: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> In a message dated 01/06/2012 7:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, rkramer3 at austin.rr.com writes: > This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of slides are > pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about Action > Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to late 60's. > They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? > Bob... While I've never heard of them myself, Rockford, Illinois is a stone's throw from Blackhawk Farms Raceway (South Beloit, Illinois), so someone around here ought to know something. I'll do some checking. Bill Dentinger From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Jan 7 08:46:22 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:46:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup and FOT shirt orders Message-ID: Just an update. Minimum order on the shirts is 48 each. We have made the minimum on the Katsner Cup shirts but only have request for 11 of the FOT shirts. If your thinking you want one of the FOT shirts speak up. So far we have 40 names going on the back of the Kastner Cup shirts which translates into 40 cars at the event with 3 months to go yet, pretty cool. Marty From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Sat Jan 7 09:19:14 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Robert Kramer) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:19:14 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> Message-ID: <4C69822E604943C09EB496FA7B36BB50@latitudefb1e41> Bill, I got some of these with the car and some from Ken Stewart, the son of the original owner. Ken took his driver's school in my TR4A back in the 60's. I sent Tom a couple of scans of some proofs I have from my TR4A late last night. Apparently he doesn't sleep :-) He has found an interesting newspaper article referencing that David Donahue was also looking for Action Limited. I have enough scans to know that they were at the 1967 ARRC in Daytona and the 1968 ARRC in Riverside. There are also some from some tracks that are not those two. It would seem that the photographer from Action Limited took photos at major SCCA events and gave the drivers proofs to choose from. It might be an incredible stash of photos. The most interesting thing about these proofs is that the car that I bought a couple of years ago for my son to race, the blue #67 TR4 was also at Daytona in 1967, and we are pretty sure it is the car in the background of the now67big.jpg proof based on the distinctive number circle and the lettering on the rear fenders. Joe Hines was sponsored by Troncalli Motors for the ARRC. I love looking at old pictures! Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin at aol.com [mailto:BillDentin at aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 9:20 AM To: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com; jason at multivintage.com; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In a message dated 01/06/2012 7:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, rkramer3 at austin.rr.com writes: This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of slides are pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about Action Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to late 60's. They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? Bob... While I've never heard of them myself, Rockford, Illinois is a stone's throw from Blackhawk Farms Raceway (South Beloit, Illinois), so someone around here ought to know something. I'll do some checking. Bill Dentinger [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of BW6nov68.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of C2nov68.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Crss4a.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of nov67big.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Joe Hines TR4 (2).jpg] From silvio at koelbelco.com Sat Jan 7 10:41:52 2012 From: silvio at koelbelco.com (Silvio DeBartolomeis) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:41:52 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR250 TR5 accessory driving light Message-ID: <00c001cccd63$9db079b8$0302010a@koelbel.local> Enquiries Road & Track wrote: i have found 2 of the original Lucas rectangular driving lights. these were listed a factory option on the TR5 so maybe TR250???. does anyone have a pic of how they were fitted??. I've found a pic of a bracket in a 1967 Lucas catalogue but I still cant work out if they were above or below the front bar. any help appreciated thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/silvio at koelbelco.com From koblinger at verizon.net Sat Jan 7 11:00:09 2012 From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:00:09 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > www.botchagaloop.net > > These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing > lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch > some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with > photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that > tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there > are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > > > Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from > the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of > history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time > over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > Thanks again, > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Jan 7 11:51:35 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:51:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> Message-ID: <8CE9B8483EC8603-1B14-9CCF1@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> Sounds like the makings of a book here in the FOT RANKS. A photo book on Triumphs? We have printer in the Triumph fold. -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Oblinger To: fot Sent: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:28 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > www.botchagaloop.net > > These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing > lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch > some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with > photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that > tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there > are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > > > Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from > the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of > history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time > over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > Thanks again, > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Sat Jan 7 11:55:30 2012 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:55:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back digital images and what the cost would be? I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in the Smithsonian. ~Steve On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > www.botchagaloop.net > > These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's > racing > lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to > catch > some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies > (also with > photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship > action that > tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph > fan... there > are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > > > Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's > group) from > the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove > of > history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my > spare time > over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > Thanks again, > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sat Jan 7 12:53:03 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:53:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just pay and get it over with. I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? Chris On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back digital images and what the cost would be? > I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in the Smithsonian. > > ~Steve > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: > > Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. > > Cheers, > Kurt O. > > On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. >> www.botchagaloop.net >> >> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality >> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's racing >> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch >> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with >> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that >> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... there >> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. >> >> >> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from >> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of >> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time >> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. >> Thanks again, >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com From mlcooknj at msn.com Sat Jan 7 13:59:53 2012 From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:59:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> References: , <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net>, <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net>, <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: There is a device on the market that will scan 35 mm slides and save directly to your computer. I bought one on Sale at Bed Bath & Beyond a couple of years ago for under $100. It does both slides and negatives Now the confession: I haven't used it yet! But I have spoken to people who have. It's called a VuPoint. Works with Windows XP and Vista Mike Cook> From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:53:03 -0500 > To: colordog.1 at earthlink.net > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos > > I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something > close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it > myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just > pay and get it over with. > > I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? > > Chris > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > > > Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back > digital images and what the cost would be? > > I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in > the Smithsonian. > > > > ~Steve > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: > > > > Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my > collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. > All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 > mainly. > > > > Cheers, > > Kurt O. > > > > On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > >> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. > >> www.botchagaloop.net > >> > >> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality > >> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's > racing > >> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch > >> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with > >> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that > >> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... > there > >> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. > >> > >> > >> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from > >> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of > >> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time > >> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. > >> Thanks again, > >> Jason Ostrowski > >> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj at msn.com From koblinger at verizon.net Sat Jan 7 14:44:54 2012 From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:44:54 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4F08BCD6.2000006@verizon.net> I know people who have used Scan Cafe and are happy with the results. However, I'm not comfortable with the idea of sending my stuff half-way around the world to be scanned. I have a Canon 9950f flatbed scanner that can scan a variety of film sizes. It can scan 12 35mm slides in one (very slow) pass and outputs individual files for each slide. From there I bring them into Photoshop Elements for cleanup and correction. I am probably going to pop for Adobe Lightroom here soon as it has some nice organizational features. I have a domain name registered and server space available courtesy of a friend who runs a web server out of his house for fun. Here are a few samples of what I've scanned so far. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/townsendlolawm.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/manselllotuswm.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/296/efrspitfirepc9.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/tulliustr8ti6.jpg/ I have more on my Facebook page for those of you who do that. Cheers, Kurt O. On 1/7/2012 10:55 AM, Steven Belfer wrote: > Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and > get back digital images and what the cost would be? > I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image > collection in the Smithsonian. > > ~Steve > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: > > Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just > liberated my collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to > get on with scanning. All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, > SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 mainly. > > Cheers, > Kurt O. > > On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. >> www.botchagaloop.net >> >> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality >> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's >> racing >> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to >> catch >> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also >> with >> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action >> that >> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... >> there >> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. >> >> >> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) >> from >> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of >> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare >> time >> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. >> Thanks again, >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Sat Jan 7 15:06:43 2012 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:06:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FW: Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos Message-ID: <002b01cccd88$a3f301c0$ebd90540$@rr.com> Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos There's also a device I have used that is fairly inexpensive and does a reasonable job. Adesso EZ Scan 1000. Scans both slides and 35mm roll film both positive and negative. It puts the prints where you direct it, I did the HD in jpeg format. The device is ~$59 and seemingly the best price was at Amazon!. I had a bunch of 40+ year old slides it had no problem with. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 From billdentin at aol.com Sat Jan 7 15:10:45 2012 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:10:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: References: , <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net>, <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net>, <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE9BA056A95A4E-1140-694E7@webmail-m087.sysops.aol.com> <<< There is a device on the market that will scan 35 mm slides and save directly o your computer. I bought one on Sale at Bed Bath & Beyond a couple of years go for under $100. It does both slides and negatives Now the confession: I haven't used it yet! But I have spoken to people who ave. It's called a VuPoint. Works with Windows XP and Vista Mike Cook> From: ike...>>> I have one as well, and while it works fine, it is a tedious process especially with the quantities mentioned. Years ago a scanner I purchased also had an attachment that would scan slides. I still have it but the scanner no longer works. Bill Dentinger From jhhasty at gdhs.com Sat Jan 7 15:51:59 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan Message-ID: Guys... Starting my first engine tear down and can't get the stock fan mount off. Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? If so how can you get it off? Heat? Sawsaw? I don't need it to replace. From TR3driver at ca.rr.com Sat Jan 7 16:31:30 2012 From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:31:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> > Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder > have threads? Yes. It's a great big bolt that reaches through the center of the fan extension and threads into the nose of the crankshaft. You'll likely need a 6-point socket to grab the head (due to the rounded corners). > If > so how can you get it off? Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver stuck in the flywheel teeth. -- Randall From cartravel at pobox.com Sat Jan 7 16:49:35 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:49:35 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: <4F08DA0F.2080507@pobox.com> I scanned a bunch of slides last winter, including the four rolls I took in 1968, when I toured Europe in my TR250. Flatbed scanners really suck for doing slides. You have to have a dedicated 35mm scanner (for slides or negatives). These have recently come down to within my price range. I first borrowed a Nikon scanner, but then bought an OpticFilm scanner. I scanned most of mine at 4795x3145, which is half the max resolution. I've been amazed at being able to zoom in and read small road signs, etc. Mine has a holder for four slides. It is a bit tedious, but not much worse than scanning stuff on a flatbed scanner. Besides, you can do it while you are doing something else, like watching the NFL playoffs. Larry Young On 1/7/2012 1:53 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something > close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it > myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just > pay and get it over with. > > I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? > > Chris > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Steven Belfer wrote: > >> Wonder if there is a place you can send the slides for scanning and get back > digital images and what the cost would be? >> I've got a few hundred slides too. We could put the FOT image collection in > the Smithsonian. >> ~Steve >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kurt Oblinger wrote: >> >> Some really first rate stuff there! Great resource. I've just liberated my > collection of slides (20,000+) from storage and need to get on with scanning. > All West Coast stuff, F1, IMSA, CART, Can-Am, SCCA, Historics, 1972 -2001 > mainly. >> Cheers, >> Kurt O. >> >> On 1/6/2012 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >>> A couple weeks ago Clark linked his photo site to an FOT inquiry. >>> www.botchagaloop.net >>> >>> These photos are totally awesome in my opinion. The volume of quality >>> photos provide a really commendable documentary of the 70's and 80's > racing >>> lifestyle. His involvement as a worker/marshal put him in places to catch >>> some very special moments in time. Clark and his worker buddies (also with >>> photos on his site) capture over a decade of SCCA championship action that >>> tell a rich story of victory and defeat. As an obvious Triumph fan... > there >>> are some wonderful period shots of many current FOT cars. >>> >>> >>> Thanks Clark! I found a great shot of my car (in Al Olmstead's group) from >>> the start of the DP Runoffs race 1974. This is a real treasure trove of >>> history! Viewing the photos (yep, just about all of them) in my spare time >>> over the past couple weeks was a true highlight of my holiday season. >>> Thanks again, >>> Jason Ostrowski >>> Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1 at earthlink.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com From jason at multivintage.com Sat Jan 7 17:00:19 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 18:00:19 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > > > so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need some > way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver stuck in > the flywheel teeth. > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the flywheel can be damaged easily. Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. Jason. FGR > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From ac at camoletti.ch Sat Jan 7 17:35:19 2012 From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:35:19 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch> There are tools to hold the flywheel without damaging it. I remember LISLE stuff: effective and costing little (10 or 20). I have one and it works well! Cheers ! Alex (the Swiss one) -----Message d'origine----- De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Jason Ostrowski Envoyi : dimanche 8 janvier 2012 01:00 @ : Randall Cc : fot at autox.team.net Objet : Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > > > so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need > some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > stuck in the flywheel teeth. > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the flywheel can be damaged easily. Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. Jason. FGR > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 7 19:16:17 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Delap) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:16:17 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch> Message-ID: Better still - take the oil pan off - keep the crank from turning with a block of wood between it and the block. On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:35 PM, "Alexandre Camoletti" wrote: > There are tools to hold the flywheel without damaging it. > I remember LISLE stuff: effective and costing little (10 or 20). I have one > and it works well! > Cheers ! > Alex (the Swiss one) > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la > part de Jason Ostrowski > Envoyi : dimanche 8 janvier 2012 01:00 > @ : Randall > Cc : fot at autox.team.net > Objet : Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > >> >>> so how can you get it off? >> >> Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need >> some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver >> stuck in the flywheel teeth. >> > > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the > flywheel can be damaged easily. > Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. > > Jason. > FGR > > >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net From kaskas at cox.net Sat Jan 7 20:20:04 2012 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 03:20:04 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: , <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall>, , <003301cccd9d$67935490$36b9fdb0$@camoletti.ch>, Message-ID: If you still have the gearbox attached, pull the box cover and push the selectors rings into two gears, that will hold anything. Just remmeber what you did and pull out one of the gears. i used a big brass drift to put the box into the two gears at once. bang bang and it's done. Never be beaten by equipment > From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:16:17 -0600 > To: ac at camoletti.ch > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan > > Better still - take the oil pan off - keep the crank from turning with a block > of wood between it and the block. > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:35 PM, "Alexandre Camoletti" wrote: > > > There are tools to hold the flywheel without damaging it. > > I remember LISLE stuff: effective and costing little (10 or 20). I have one > > and it works well! > > Cheers ! > > Alex (the Swiss one) > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la > > part de Jason Ostrowski > > Envoyi : dimanche 8 janvier 2012 01:00 > > @ : Randall > > Cc : fot at autox.team.net > > Objet : Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Randall wrote: > > > >> > >>> so how can you get it off? > >> > >> Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need > >> some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > >> stuck in the flywheel teeth. > >> > > > > Just be careful when bracing the flywheel, maybe try a piece of wood as the > > flywheel can be damaged easily. > > Someone helping you on the other end couldn't hurt. > > > > Jason. > > FGR > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ac at camoletti.ch > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas at cox.net From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Jan 8 03:41:24 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:41:24 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan Message-ID: If the engine is inside the car, 4th gear, hand brake and a long wrench will do it. If the engine is outside the car, remove the oil pan, a piece od wood next to the crank to block it will do it. Cheers Chris ------Originalnachricht------ Von: John Hasty Absender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Tr4 fan Gesendet: 7. Jan. 2012 23:51 Guys... Starting my first engine tear down and can't get the stock fan mount off. Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? If so how can you get it off? Heat? Sawsaw? I don't need it to replace. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone From tr4.tony at virgin.net Sun Jan 8 04:07:56 2012 From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (TR4 Tony) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:07:56 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64014CD4-AF3B-44A7-A075-6F8525531868@virgin.net> John If the car is together put it in 4th and chock or strap the rear wheels down to your floor or ramp, take the bonnet off and use the biggest ratchet you have with a scaffold bar over the end of the handle. Put an old cushion over the inner wing on the side the pole will fall. As you swing like a monkey on the end of the pole you will feel it give then the job is nearly done. Wind out as normal from then on. The thread is a unf and gets bound tight ... Throwing on some heat with a torch or a chemical releaser will help too. Normally the hub is a tight interference fit too, so you need to carefully extract this to avoid mulls ring the end of the crank. Happy days. Tony Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jan 2012, at 22:51, John Hasty wrote: > Guys... Starting my first engine tear down and can't get the stock fan mount > off. Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? If > so how can you get it off? Heat? Sawsaw? I don't need it to replace. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sun Jan 8 08:24:03 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:24:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: Amici Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I nominated myself. Chris. From tony at tonydrews.com Sun Jan 8 08:24:47 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:24:47 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> References: <4F088829.2020800@verizon.net> <3D0199E3-2DE6-4F96-85EB-4642E569F47C@earthlink.net> <5A796FE7-ED7F-4447-8967-398D99B62FE7@aol.com> Message-ID: <20120108152459.ED8061878BD@autox.team.net> There's a local outfit that will scan slides for $0.16 each - as long as they are loaded into a carousel already. Jack purchased a Canon flatbed slide scanner that will do 12 slides in a slow pass. I just used it last weekend to scan some slides he somehow missed. I could see it being pretty time consuming to do many of them. Tony At 01:53 PM 1/7/2012, Christopher Bock wrote: >I looked into sending my slides out and it was about $1 each or something >close to it. It turned out to be cheaper to buy the equipment and do it >myself. That's why I haven't done it. No time. Might be a good idea to just >pay and get it over with. > >I wonder if there is an automated way of doing it? > >Chris From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Jan 8 08:55:31 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:55:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CE9C35145020D6-7F8-1B509@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> It's voluntary stuff like this that adds great value to the non-organization of the FOT. The Kastner Cup would be a great place to start the picture/people process. It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to organize a group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge...... Thanks Chris.... -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bock To: FoTTriumph Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 9:44 am Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Amici Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I nominated myself. Chris. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com From trmarty at hotmail.com Sun Jan 8 09:17:16 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:17:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <8CE9C35145020D6-7F8-1B509@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> References: , <8CE9C35145020D6-7F8-1B509@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I second the nomination :). It would also be cool to have individual photos of people and their cars. Marty > To: SeaCubeCo at aol.com; fot at autox.team.net > From: n197tr4 at cs.com > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:55:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? > > It's voluntary stuff like this that adds great value to the non-organization > of the FOT. > > The Kastner Cup would be a great place to start the picture/people process. > > It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to organize a > group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge...... > > Thanks Chris.... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Bock > To: FoTTriumph > Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 9:44 am > Subject: [Fot] Calendar? > > > Amici > > Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? > > > Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I > nominated myself. > > > Chris. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4 at cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty at hotmail.com From cwnfot at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 09:23:05 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:23:05 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2012 Mitty, slides... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201ccce21$cdcf76b0$696e6410$@com> Is Vern Brannon signed on (hopefully)? Thanks everyone for enjoying my slide collection (and those of my friends) and website! Sometimes a cold winter produces results! You'll find copies on various historical sites worldwide! I had some fun with Bob Tullius at Lime Rock in 2011. Always had a smile on his face! Hope to see you all at the Mitty! Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From BillDentin at aol.com Sun Jan 8 09:28:49 2012 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:28:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: <1058e.67a2997d.3c3b1e41@aol.com> In a message dated 01/08/2012 10:12:04 AM Central Standard Time, n197tr4 at cs.com writes: > <<< It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to > organize a > group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge......>>> > I have three mounted/framed panographes from previous TRIUMPH featured events at Mid-Ohio in 1992, 1998, and 2002. I also have the 1992 poster (signed by all of the drivers and folks like Bob Tullius and Smokey Yunik) mounted/framed. If I use my enclosed trailer to get to Atlanta, maybe I could bring them for display purposes to generate interest in a calendar effort. Bill From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Jan 8 09:41:53 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:41:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] PANOGRAPH/PHOTO SHOOT at KASTNER CUP VOLUNTEERS? In-Reply-To: <1058e.67a2997d.3c3b1e41@aol.com> References: <1058e.67a2997d.3c3b1e41@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE9C3B8FCBAF21-7F8-1BA73@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> Bill, bringing the great looking panographs to Road Atlanta would be nice to do in any case. Sean & I treasure our three panographs. Now who will volunteer to organize the panograph guy and/or the photo shoot? This is a lot of work to organize and execute, but this event is way too big to let this go by. Please report in to our event Chair.....Henry Frye. BTW, Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer, the elder statesmen of the FOT will both be running the Kastner Cup. -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin To: n197tr4 Cc: fot Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 10:28 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? In a message dated 01/08/2012 10:12:04 AM Central Standard Time, n197tr4 at cs.com writes: <<< It would be very cool if we had a photographer type volunteer to organize a group picture at Road Atlanta. A panograph would be huge......>>> I have three mounted/framed panographes from previous TRIUMPH featured events at Mid-Ohio in 1992, 1998, and 2002. I also have the 1992 poster (signed by all of the drivers and folks like Bob Tullius and Smokey Yunik) mounted/framed. If I use my enclosed trailer to get to Atlanta, maybe I could bring them for display purposes to generate interest in a calendar effort. Bill From lunkercars at earthlink.net Sun Jan 8 10:37:44 2012 From: lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg ''Lunker'' Hilyer) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:37:44 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <22070712-97DA-44AC-96CC-89B68997E4F4@earthlink.net> It's interesting how many ways there are to skin a cat. Here's my version [engine in car]: Get your 6pt socket and breaker bar, wedge it against the floor or frame rail and bump the starter - done! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Randall wrote: >> Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder >> have threads? > > Yes. It's a great big bolt that reaches through the center of the fan > extension and threads into the nose of the crankshaft. You'll > likely need a > 6-point socket to grab the head (due to the rounded corners). > >> If >> so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll > need some > way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > stuck in > the flywheel teeth. > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > lunkercars at earthlink.net From cartravel at pobox.com Sun Jan 8 11:24:14 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 12:24:14 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 Message-ID: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to modify it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly original, the FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, where do the 6 cylinder guys hang out? '68 was the first year the emission laws started to take their toll on performance, as evidenced by the TR5 vs TR250. I would like to make it perform better, while keeping a stock looking engine appearance. I'm thinking along the lines of the 125 mph car that Kas did for publicity back in the day. My thoughts at this point are to increase the compression to the limits imposed by pump gas. Change to a longer duration cam, i.e. more like the early PI cam. I'm not sure how to tune the nonadjustable carbs when the engine is modified. I was also thinking about getting rid of the wacky ignition retard, but continuing to use the vacuum advance. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can accomplish my goal within the limits I've imposed? I have an old Cam Doctor that I have used to look at several TR3/4 cams. I have a fairly popular webpage on those cams at www.TildenTechnologies.com. .As part of this effort, I'd like to do some research and a similar page for 6 cylinder cams. Does anyone have an early PI cam that I could borrow to analyze for this effort? Or, perhaps other street performance cams? Thanks, Larry Young From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Sun Jan 8 11:23:18 2012 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 12:23:18 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tr4 fan In-Reply-To: <22070712-97DA-44AC-96CC-89B68997E4F4@earthlink.net> References: <0b2201cccd94$7c958790$0201a8c0@randall> <22070712-97DA-44AC-96CC-89B68997E4F4@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402684FCE@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> << Get your 6pt socket and breaker bar, wedge it against the floor or frame rail and bump the starter >> ...to which I have to add "having first determined that the direction of rotation will hold the breaker bar against the floor or frame rail and not, say, fling it at the light fixture or other valuable and delicate item." Not that I've done that. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg ''Lunker'' Hilyer Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 11:38 AM To: Randall Cc: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr4 fan It's interesting how many ways there are to skin a cat. Here's my version [engine in car]: Get your 6pt socket and breaker bar, wedge it against the floor or frame rail and bump the starter - done! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Randall wrote: >> Does the hand crank fixture on the end of the holder have threads? > > Yes. It's a great big bolt that reaches through the center of the fan > extension and threads into the nose of the crankshaft. You'll likely > need a 6-point socket to grab the head (due to the rounded corners). > >> If >> so how can you get it off? > > Impact wrench works a treat, if you have one. Otherwise you'll need > some way to hold the crank from turning, like maybe a big screwdriver > stuck in the flywheel teeth. > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > lunkercars at earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/scott.barr at mccarty-law.com From tr4.tony at virgin.net Sun Jan 8 11:07:19 2012 From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (TR4 Tony) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:07:19 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72CE7BF6-E800-466A-8DB2-727EAF6EC1D6@virgin.net> Yeah I'm up for one of those Sent from my iPhone On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? > > > Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I > nominated myself. > > > Chris. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net From macdonaldp at rogers.com Sun Jan 8 11:49:48 2012 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:49:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 In-Reply-To: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> References: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Message-ID: <002801ccce36$4c6a6a20$e53f3e60$@rogers.com> http://www.6-pack.org/j15/ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Young Sent: January 8, 2012 1:24 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to modify it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly original, the FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, where do the 6 cylinder guys hang out? '68 was the first year the emission laws started to take their toll on performance, as evidenced by the TR5 vs TR250. I would like to make it perform better, while keeping a stock looking engine appearance. I'm thinking along the lines of the 125 mph car that Kas did for publicity back in the day. My thoughts at this point are to increase the compression to the limits imposed by pump gas. Change to a longer duration cam, i.e. more like the early PI cam. I'm not sure how to tune the nonadjustable carbs when the engine is modified. I was also thinking about getting rid of the wacky ignition retard, but continuing to use the vacuum advance. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can accomplish my goal within the limits I've imposed? I have an old Cam Doctor that I have used to look at several TR3/4 cams. I have a fairly popular webpage on those cams at www.TildenTechnologies.com. .As part of this effort, I'd like to do some research and a similar page for 6 cylinder cams. Does anyone have an early PI cam that I could borrow to analyze for this effort? Or, perhaps other street performance cams? Thanks, Larry Young _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sun Jan 8 12:04:58 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:04:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <72CE7BF6-E800-466A-8DB2-727EAF6EC1D6@virgin.net> References: <72CE7BF6-E800-466A-8DB2-727EAF6EC1D6@virgin.net> Message-ID: <9102D996-C559-4083-8281-6B4070A49762@aol.com> Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. Like my life isn't busy enough! Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? >> >> >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I >> nominated myself. >> >> >> Chris. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 12:24:44 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 12:24:44 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 In-Reply-To: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> References: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4F09ED7C.1030102@bradakis.com> Larry Young wrote: > Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the > restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is > very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to > modify it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly > original, the FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, > where do the 6 cylinder guys hang out? Team.Net has both the triumphs and 6pack lists ( http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo ) though there is more activity on the 6pack forum they have set up. I know I have a link here somewhere... mjb. From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sun Jan 8 14:46:14 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:46:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage Message-ID: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video surfaced on another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the greatest driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car footage Ruby was also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the 4:10 point of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 24 Hours of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if there was some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas would know who it is. I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were having in the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an interesting guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita Falls, Texas you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he passed two years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded -Ed- From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sun Jan 8 15:32:03 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:32:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <9102D996-C559-4083-8281-6B4070A49762@aol.com> Message-ID: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chris and group: At the risk of stepping on toes, I will step up to the calender plate since I have yet to do anything but reap the knowledge and friendships of this group. I co-publish the calenders for our local TR club. We have just (last month) published our fourth calender year, and the pictures get better every year. We have a great printer who does them quickly, at a reasonable price. We print 75 copies for a membership of about 100-110. They cost less then $10.00 each. We start to collect membership photos in January, firm up the selection in November, and turn them in to the printer the first of December. We start selling them at the December club meeting the second week in December. I use a lot of pictures of cars that come into the shop for service, so even if we don't get pictures turned in by the car owners, we still get a lot of pictures. If you would like me to do it I would ask list members to turn in photos from events they attend as drivers, workers, or spectators. These would get cataloged and the selection made by photo quality, content, and car model so we would have a good sampling of the FOT cars. Of course, with the number of FOTer's we can order more calenders at a better price with any profits going to support Mark B's never-ending efforts. If this meets every ones approval I can start to collect pictures. Respectfully - Ed Barnard --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Christopher Bock wrote: From: Christopher Bock Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? To: "TR4 Tony" Cc: "FoTTriumph" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:04 PM Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. Like my life isn't busy enough! Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? >> >> >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I >> nominated myself. >> >> >> Chris. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From SeaCubeCo at aol.com Sun Jan 8 15:59:37 2012 From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:59:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40DC2EC1-5227-4324-9463-587641B18AA8@aol.com> I will gladly hand over the reins on this one. Thanks ED for offering. I was going to have the Kastner Cup top three and their cars for the month of the Cup race. Thanks again Ed Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:32 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Chris and group: At the risk of stepping on toes, I will step up to the calender plate since I have yet to do anything but reap the knowledge and friendships of this group. I co-publish the calenders for our local TR club. We have just (last month) published our fourth calender year, and the pictures get better every year. We have a great printer who does them quickly, at a reasonable price. We print 75 copies for a membership of about 100-110. They cost less then $10.00 each. We start to collect membership photos in January, firm up the selection in November, and turn them in to the printer the first of December. We start selling them at the December club meeting the second week in December. I use a lot of pictures of cars that come into the shop for service, so even if we don't get pictures turned in by the car owners, we still get a lot of pictures. > If you would like me to do it I would ask list members to turn in photos from events they attend as drivers, workers, or spectators. These would get cataloged and the selection made by photo quality, content, and car model so we would have a good sampling of the FOT cars. > Of course, with the number of FOTer's we can order more calenders at a better price with any profits going to support Mark B's never-ending efforts. > If this meets every ones approval I can start to collect pictures. > Respectfully - Ed Barnard > > --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Christopher Bock wrote: > > From: Christopher Bock > Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? > To: "TR4 Tony" > Cc: "FoTTriumph" > Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:04 PM > > Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. > > Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to > put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. > > > I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little > description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures > please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and > "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. > > > There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is > ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. > > > Like my life isn't busy enough! > > Chris > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > > > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > > > >> Amici > >> > >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? > >> > >> > >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess > I > >> nominated myself. > >> > >> > >> Chris. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 8 16:32:04 2012 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 15:32:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326061923.27412.YahooMailClassic@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1326065524.13983.YahooMailRC@web181307.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Go ED! What size pictures do you need? (500KB big enough?) Chris and group: At the risk of stepping on toes, I will step up to the calender plate since I have yet to do anything but reap the knowledge and friendships of this group. I co-publish the calenders for our local TR club. We have just (last month) published our fourth calender year, and the pictures get better every year. We have a great printer who does them quickly, at a reasonable price. We print 75 copies for a membership of about 100-110. They cost less then $10.00 each. We start to collect membership photos in January, firm up the selection in November, and turn them in to the printer the first of December. We start selling them at the December club meeting the second week in December. I use a lot of pictures of cars that come into the shop for service, so even if we don't get pictures turned in by the car owners, we still get a lot of pictures. If you would like me to do it I would ask list members to turn in photos from events they attend as drivers, workers, or spectators. These would get cataloged and the selection made by photo quality, content, and car model so we would have a good sampling of the FOT cars. Of course, with the number of FOTer's we can order more calenders at a better price with any profits going to support Mark B's never-ending efforts. If this meets every ones approval I can start to collect pictures. Respectfully - Ed Barnard --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Christopher Bock wrote: From: Christopher Bock Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? To: "TR4 Tony" Cc: "FoTTriumph" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:04 PM Holly smoke! Guess I have my work cut out for me. Please send me schedules for the different clubs that we race in. I want to put that in the calendar as well as the normal holidays. I would like a picture from a race that was held that month with a little description of car, driver, race, year, and track. When sending pictures please send them to me directly (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) with the information and "FOT calendar pics" in the subject. There is a lot of thinking I have to do give me a few days. I know this is ambitious but I want to get most of this done before the end of January. Like my life isn't busy enough! Chris On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:07 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Yeah I'm up for one of those > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 15:24, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> Any thoughts about a calendar with the FOT cars and people? >> >> >> Yeah stupid me opening my big mouth and starting this can of worms. Guess I >> nominated myself. >> >> >> Chris. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony at virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard at prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_6694.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_6693.jpg] From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Sun Jan 8 16:42:37 2012 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:42:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical writing in the same Newsletter, T On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > surfaced on > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > greatest > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > footage Ruby was > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > 4:10 point > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > 24 Hours > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > there was > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > would know who > it is. > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > having in > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > interesting > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > Falls, Texas > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > passed two > years ago. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Sun Jan 8 17:10:03 2012 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:10:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> References: <1326059174.15136.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <96F6ACBD-67E1-49AA-B868-7968D18AC003@columbus.rr.com> Sorry it was March 54 Newsletter . I had a page stuck in my hard copy of these..... here is the newsletter http://www.templeoftriumph.org/tsoa/TSOA0109/TSOA0364.pdf T On Jan 8, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Tom Householder wrote: > Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 > finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill > Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 > Ferarris, 3 AC Cobras, and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a Lotus > Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo > 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring > Sprite. See Mar. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph > site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for > Technical writing in the same Newsletter, > > T > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > >> Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video >> surfaced on >> another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the >> greatest >> driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car >> footage Ruby was >> also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At >> the 4:10 point >> of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or >> 1965 24 Hours >> of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if >> there was >> some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas >> would know who >> it is. >> I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were >> having in >> the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an >> interesting >> guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita >> Falls, Texas >> you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he >> passed two >> years ago. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded >> >> -Ed- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ >> trhouse at columbus.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Sun Jan 8 17:23:24 2012 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Robert Kramer) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:23:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <6E7E23B0-7635-4566-AE01-CFA550A485D8@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <694C1768DE86488FBFC3E4E2E2B21EE3@latitudefb1e41> Jim McAndrew of Tyler TX has a TR3 that matches that description. I know it was raced by those guys. Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Householder Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43 PM To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Old sports car footage Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical writing in the same Newsletter, T On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > surfaced on > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > greatest > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > footage Ruby was > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > 4:10 point > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > 24 Hours > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > there was > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > would know who > it is. > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > having in > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > interesting > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > Falls, Texas > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > passed two > years ago. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Sun Jan 8 18:41:22 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:41:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <694C1768DE86488FBFC3E4E2E2B21EE3@latitudefb1e41> Message-ID: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group: Isn't the collective knowledge of this group spectacular! An outsider would surely think we all need to get a life :O) -Ed- --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Robert Kramer wrote: From: Robert Kramer Subject: RE: [Fot] Old sports car footage To: "'Tom Householder'" , "'EDWARD BARNARD'" Cc: "'FOT'" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 6:23 PM Jim McAndrew of Tyler TX has a TR3 that matches that description. I know it was raced by those guys. Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Householder Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43 PM To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Old sports car footage Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical writing in the same Newsletter, T On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > surfaced on > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > greatest > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > footage Ruby was > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > 4:10 point > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > 24 Hours > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > there was > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > would know who > it is. > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > having in > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > interesting > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > Falls, Texas > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > passed two > years ago. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 19:17:30 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F0A4E3A.8080109@bradakis.com> EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Isn't the collective knowledge of this group spectacular! An outsider > would surely think we all need to get a life :O) > This *is* a life! They're the ones with the problem! mjb. From jason at multivintage.com Sun Jan 8 19:12:58 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:12:58 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage In-Reply-To: <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <694C1768DE86488FBFC3E4E2E2B21EE3@latitudefb1e41> <1326073282.24126.YahooMailClassic@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You want spectacular... 40 Triumph cars. Each holding a bit of that collective knowledge. Driving for a chance to win the Kastner Cup... The most coveted award in Triumph Racing. Spectacular indeed! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:41 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Isn't the collective knowledge of this group spectacular! An > outsider > would surely think we all need to get a life :O) > -Ed- > > --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Robert Kramer wrote: > > > From: Robert Kramer > Subject: RE: [Fot] Old sports car footage > To: "'Tom Householder'" , "'EDWARD BARNARD'" > > Cc: "'FOT'" > Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 6:23 PM > > > Jim McAndrew of Tyler TX has a TR3 that matches that description. I know it > was raced by those guys. > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3 at austin.rr.com > Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch > excellence. > > Vince Lombardi > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tom Householder > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43 PM > To: EDWARD BARNARD > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Old sports car footage > > Dana Keible and Ara Dube ran the 2000 Km Daytona Continental in 54 > finished 15th overall and first in GT II. Car was Prepared by Bill > Conners of Daytona Beach , The fourteen car ahead of them were 7 > Ferarris 3 AC Cobras and 4 Porches . 8 laps behind was a lotus > Elite , followed by Aston Matin Sunbeam Alpine, Porsche C, Volvo > 1800s, and a bunch of Corvettes, a TR4 , an MG and a Sebring Sprite. > See Feb. 64 TSOA Newsletter, Maybe at Temple of Triumph site, > Kastner was receiving an Award in Dallas from the SCCA for Technical > writing in the same Newsletter, > > T > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > > > Group: Since we are on the subject of old photos, this video > > surfaced on > > another list I am a member of. It is a tribute to Lloyd Ruby, the > > greatest > > driver to never win Indy. Although there is a lot of Indy car > > footage Ruby was > > also a very successful driver in sports cars and stock cars. At the > > 4:10 point > > of the video is footage of Ruby driving a Cobra at the 1964 or 1965 > > 24 Hours > > of Daytona. It shows him passing a TR3. It would be very cool if > > there was > > some way of identifying the car/driver of that car. Perhaps Kas > > would know who > > it is. > > I had a chance to meet Ruby three years ago at a gathering we were > > having in > > the area where I was showing my '39 Champ car. He was truly an > > interesting > > guy; full of stories of the great days, but, being from Wichita > > Falls, Texas > > you had to be patient as he spoke in a slow Texas drawl. Sadly, he > > passed two > > years ago. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qR62ONHLIw&feature=player_embedded > > > > -Ed- > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > > trhouse at columbus.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3 at austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason at multivintage.com From jdment at suddenlink.net Sun Jan 8 19:32:59 2012 From: jdment at suddenlink.net (James McAndrew) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:32:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Old sports car footage Message-ID: Neat video! Yes, that is my car in the video. I have a copy of the March 1964 TSOA Newsletter (given to me by the former driver of the car, Dana Kelder) that describes the car's participation and Kas' award. Kas was gracious to sign the newsletter for me at the FOT/Kastner Cup event in Oklahoma. My TR3 is also on the cover of Kas' second book: "Kas Kastner's Racing, Winning and Other Myths in TRIUMPH Cars TR-3, TR-4, TR-250, TR-6, GT-6 & Spitfire". Currently the car is going through it's 3rd major rebuild (new roll cage, new fuel cell, redo suspension...). But I'm almost finished with my new shop that will have a lift, so I hope the work will soon progress. Jim McAndrew Tyler, Texas From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Sun Jan 8 20:12:50 2012 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:12:50 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Oil pump query Message-ID: <54E950AC-99A7-4FD4-AD95-9D9A1DD01CE3@earthlink.net> Happy New Year all, I've only used stock oil pumps in the past for the TR4, but recently came across something different. The outer rotor has machined "flutes" tapered to a depth of about .060". Although it came with a bunch of used parts, I think its NOS from about 30 years ago. So... typical "hi-flow" that I would want to use? Or a cavitation prone idea that I should stay away from? Even if it's a common piece or something you've never seen either, any input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM Prepping for the Kas Cup at the Mitty - which leads to another question. Can anyone lead me to a good track map of Road Atlanta? The track's web site just shows a basic layout without distances or elevations. Is the back straight a up-hill pull? That might help. But it looks awfully long - as in my 4:10 gears [without overdrive] might be a bit short. From spitlist at cox.net Sun Jan 8 23:07:30 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:07:30 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Jim Gamboney Message-ID: <789F4C95EA054B6591A6E33BF3C94D47@Vista> Sorry to bomb the list but could Jim contact me. Thanks, Joe C. From vintage.racer at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 08:35:18 2012 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale Message-ID: <454048388.540839.1326123318457.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2788069483.html From n197tr4 at cs.com Mon Jan 9 09:35:42 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:35:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] THE MITTY HSR MEMBERSHIP? Message-ID: <8CE9D03DD1B6C36-1498-2F8AF@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> The question has come to me about HSR membership for entry at THE MITTY. I am going under the assumption that a current membership and medical in any qualified organization is all that is required. Vintage....VMC....SCCA....FIA. We ARE assuming that the HANS device or it's equivalent IS a requirement and that requirement has not been waived. Can anyone confirm? I am not planning to join HSR. Joe A From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Mon Jan 9 10:04:32 2012 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:04:32 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale References: <454048388.540839.1326123318457.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <418CA81F8F734C52AFC5B5326622EB7E@Charly> I don't recognize this car from the Seattle area, it states located in Northern Cal. but posted in Seattle. I don't recall seeing the cat at Laguna Seca, Who's car is it? Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2788069483.html > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com From budscars at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 10:47:41 2012 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:47:41 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale References: <454048388.540839.1326123318457.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <418CA81F8F734C52AFC5B5326622EB7E@Charly> Message-ID: i believe it's Gary Horskorta's car. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charly Mitchel" To: ; "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale >I don't recognize this car from the Seattle area, it states located in >Northern Cal. but posted in Seattle. I don't recall seeing the cat at >Laguna Seca, Who's car is it? > Charly Mitchel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 Racecar For Sale > > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2788069483.html >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars at comcast.net From stocktontr4 at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 14:20:32 2012 From: stocktontr4 at gmail.com (dick stockton) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:20:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Walter Mitty former racers Message-ID: Hi all, Jim Taylor (ex national racer from the 60s in a black TR4), Bob Krokus (TR3, ex Group 44), the rest of the Misery Manor gang, and Buzz Marcus (pole '66 Riverside ARRC in my old TR4) will be there with me. - Dick From dos_gusanos at msn.com Mon Jan 9 16:48:14 2012 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:48:14 -0700 Subject: [Fot] How many Teeth on ring gear for 5 speed TR7 Message-ID: Good evening, can't find this one in the book, and was wondering if anyone knew before I started cracking covers and changing gaskets...............Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Mon Jan 9 16:52:51 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:52:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 References: <4F09DF4E.5000708@pobox.com> Message-ID: <442C9133C0A44A7E8B9DE61CC39B134A@owner8914bbf7f> Larry, I'm running Z/S carbs from an earlier TR4, with the adjustments on the bottom of the carbs, on my TR6; seem to work well. I had a minor problem with the linkage and had to fabricate a few items. Also the linkage from the accelerator pedal shaft is different: on the TR6 when you hit the gas, the link to the carbs is pulled rearward on the standard carbs. On the ones I use, the link has to be pushed forward. Solution: loosen the bolt on the arm on the gas pedal linkage, push it downward until it's pointed almost straight down and tighten. When you hit the gas now, the link pushes forward and the carbs are opened. EZ! When fabricating linkage, I clamp a 2x4 in my vise, about 3 feet long, bolt the intake manifold to it, and bolt the carbs to the manifold. Then fabricate the linkage. I told that to a guy at Pegasus one time and he said that's how he does it!---Whatever works. Bill- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" To: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 1:24 PM Subject: [Fot] Undetuning and restoration of a TR250 > Over the past couple of months, I have finally gotten started on the > restoration of my TR250. I have had this car since it was new. It is > very nearly in original condition, because I never had the money to modify > it back when I wanted to. Since I plan to keep it fairly original, the > FoT is probably the wrong group to be talking to. So, where do the 6 > cylinder guys hang out? > > '68 was the first year the emission laws started to take their toll on > performance, as evidenced by the TR5 vs TR250. I would like to make it > perform better, while keeping a stock looking engine appearance. I'm > thinking along the lines of the 125 mph car that Kas did for publicity > back in the day. My thoughts at this point are to increase the > compression to the limits imposed by pump gas. Change to a longer > duration cam, i.e. more like the early PI cam. I'm not sure how to tune > the nonadjustable carbs when the engine is modified. I was also thinking > about getting rid of the wacky ignition retard, but continuing to use the > vacuum advance. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can accomplish > my goal within the limits I've imposed? > > I have an old Cam Doctor that I have used to look at several TR3/4 cams. > I have a fairly popular webpage on those cams at > www.TildenTechnologies.com. .As part of this effort, I'd like to do some > research and a similar page for 6 cylinder cams. Does anyone have an early > PI cam that I could borrow to analyze for this effort? Or, perhaps other > street performance cams? > Thanks, > Larry Young > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Mon Jan 9 19:04:33 2012 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Clark W. Nicholls, GREAT Photos In-Reply-To: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> References: <10171.65a7aa1c.3c39bc96@aol.com> Message-ID: The address for "Action limited" crosses to one Richard F Kast and wife Sharon, they sold the house in sept 1970 and were in Green Bay then. tom On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:19 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/06/2012 7:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, > rkramer3 at austin.rr.com writes: > > >> This looks to be some pretty outstanding stuff. The stacks of >> slides are >> pretty impressive. It reminds of my quest to find out more about >> Action >> Limited. They took photos at SCCA and ARRC events in the mid to >> late 60's. >> They hailed from Rockford IL. Does anyone know anything about them? >> > > Bob... > > While I've never heard of them myself, Rockford, Illinois is a stone's > throw from Blackhawk Farms Raceway (South Beloit, Illinois), so > someone around > here ought to know something. I'll do some checking. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > trhouse at columbus.rr.com From tony at tonydrews.com Mon Jan 9 20:39:13 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:39:13 -0600 Subject: [Fot] THE MITTY HSR MEMBERSHIP? In-Reply-To: <8CE9D03DD1B6C36-1498-2F8AF@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE9D03DD1B6C36-1498-2F8AF@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20120110033926.2022E187650@autox.team.net> I've never had to join HSR to race with them at prior events. Same with SVRA. Tony At 10:35 AM 1/9/2012, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote: >The question has come to me about HSR membership for entry at THE MITTY. > >I am going under the assumption that a current membership and medical in any >qualified organization is all that is required. >Vintage....VMC....SCCA....FIA. > >We ARE assuming that the HANS device or it's equivalent IS a requirement and >that requirement has not been waived. > >Can anyone confirm? > >I am not planning to join HSR. > >Joe A >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Mon Jan 9 20:43:51 2012 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:43:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Pictures for the FOT calender needed! Message-ID: <1326167031.78590.YahooMailClassic@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group: Okay, it's time for all FOTer's to go through their photo collections and send Chris Bock and I your favorite pics. We are not going to wait for this years Kas Cup to run the calender, so if anyone that has a group shot from the 2011 Cup can send it to us. I'm sure all of you have photos of your cars. We would like static and action photos. Please give us a car/driver/event description with your pictures so we can give credit where it is due. Some vintage photos will make it in if sent. When I finalize the price breaks I'll come to the group, give prices, and ask about interest. I also promise that the same cars will not be in the 2013 calender so if your car doesn't make it into the 2012 calender, there's always next year. Please copy both Chris and I on your photos so we don't have to spend our time emailing pictures to each other. Lets get a good mix of cars, to include Specials! Let the picture sending begin! -Ed- From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Mon Jan 9 22:05:49 2012 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 23:05:49 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Rockerarms.com Message-ID: <002301cccf55$85493900$8fdbab00$@rr.com> Has anyone spoken to Rcokerarms.com (formerly rocker arm specialist) in the past two weeks? I've sent them a set of followers to be refinished and I can't reach them by the phone, it has been going directly to voice mail. Thanks, Greg From rocky at spitfire4.com Mon Jan 9 23:46:25 2012 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:46:25 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: One thing to be careful about here -- copyrights. Often trackside photos are taken by professional photographers who expect to be paid when their work is published. Therefore, for any photo sent you need to have, at minimum, the name of the photographer (or sometimes just the agency will do, such as "Photo courtesy of Getty Images"). Then you need to get clearance (permission) from that photographer. Since presumably this is a calendar among individuals of similar amateur persuasion, and nobody or entity is making any real profit off the project, you might be able to get the photo released for free from some photographers, but even for free you should put a photo credit beside the picture. Sometimes when racers buy a photo they also buy a release with it. Then the copyright belongs to the photo subject instead of the photographer and the subject can do whatever he wants with it. However, if known, you should STILL credit the photographer. Yes, even amateur photographers hold a legal copyright to photos they took. Simply put, you cannot use it without permission, and the subject can give that permission only if he has purchased or been given the right to do so (now if his wife shot the picture, don't worry about it -- but give her the photo credit; she'll be thrilled). --Rocky Entriken From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Jan 10 08:13:28 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:13:28 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Just a test setting up new computer program Message-ID: <6A45A73FFC524B3FB8EB618166505D9B@gdhs.local> John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. From greenman62 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 10 11:34:36 2012 From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (Greg Petrolati) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:34:36 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would be happy to provide a number of photos for the calendar for "one time use" at no charge. I have quite a few shots taken over the years... some have been published others haven't seen the light of day. Greg Petrolati Lafayette, Oregon That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... > From: rocky at spitfire4.com > To: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net; SeaCubeCo at aol.com > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:46:25 -0600 > CC: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? > > One thing to be careful about here -- copyrights. > > Often trackside photos are taken by professional photographers who expect to > be paid when their work is published. Therefore, for any photo sent you need > to have, at minimum, the name of the photographer (or sometimes just the > agency will do, such as "Photo courtesy of Getty Images"). Then you need to > get clearance (permission) from that photographer. Since presumably this is > a calendar among individuals of similar amateur persuasion, and nobody or > entity is making any real profit off the project, you might be able to get > the photo released for free from some photographers, but even for free you > should put a photo credit beside the picture. > > Sometimes when racers buy a photo they also buy a release with it. Then the > copyright belongs to the photo subject instead of the photographer and the > subject can do whatever he wants with it. However, if known, you should > STILL credit the photographer. > > Yes, even amateur photographers hold a legal copyright to photos they took. > Simply put, you cannot use it without permission, and the subject can give > that permission only if he has purchased or been given the right to do so > (now if his wife shot the picture, don't worry about it -- but give her the > photo credit; she'll be thrilled). > > --Rocky Entriken > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62 at hotmail.com From cartravel at pobox.com Tue Jan 10 11:48:33 2012 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:48:33 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Pictures for the FOT calender needed! In-Reply-To: <1326167031.78590.YahooMailClassic@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326167031.78590.YahooMailClassic@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F0C8801.7040004@pobox.com> Feel free to use any of mine from the 2010 event. They are still up on flickr. On 9/7/2010 10:39 AM, Larry Young wrote: > Better slow than never. I took a bunch of photos, with the new camera > that I'm still learning to use. These were shot with a telephoto and a > wide field of view to capture the action. I then cropped every photo. > That's my excuse for why it took so long. Unfortunately, some are a bit > fuzzy. Sorry, if there weren't very many of your car. I tend to favor > my mates. I'll try to do better next year. -Larry > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/53707928 at N02/sets/ On 1/9/2012 9:43 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: Okay, it's time for all FOTer's to go through their photo collections > and send Chris Bock and I your favorite pics. We are not going to wait for > this years Kas Cup to run the calender, so if anyone that has a group shot > from the 2011 Cup can send it to us. I'm sure all of you have photos of your > cars. We would like static and action photos. Please give us a > car/driver/event description with your pictures so we can give credit where it > is due. Some vintage photos will make it in if sent. > When I finalize the price breaks I'll come to the group, give prices, and ask > about interest. I also promise that the same cars will not be in the 2013 > calender so if your car doesn't make it into the 2012 calender, there's always > next year. > Please copy both Chris and I on your photos so we don't have to spend our time > emailing pictures to each other. > Lets get a good mix of cars, to include Specials! > Let the picture sending begin! > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jan 10 12:53:01 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:53:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ditto - I have a few thousand to chose from. :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Greg Petrolati wrote: > I would be happy to provide a number of photos for the calendar for "one time > use" at no charge. I have quite a few shots taken over the years... some have > been published others haven't seen the light of day. > > Greg Petrolati Lafayette, Oregon > > > > That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... > > > > > >> From: rocky at spitfire4.com >> To: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net; SeaCubeCo at aol.com >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:46:25 -0600 >> CC: fot at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Calendar? >> >> One thing to be careful about here -- copyrights. >> >> Often trackside photos are taken by professional photographers who expect > to >> be paid when their work is published. Therefore, for any photo sent you > need >> to have, at minimum, the name of the photographer (or sometimes just the >> agency will do, such as "Photo courtesy of Getty Images"). Then you need to >> get clearance (permission) from that photographer. Since presumably this is >> a calendar among individuals of similar amateur persuasion, and nobody or >> entity is making any real profit off the project, you might be able to get >> the photo released for free from some photographers, but even for free you >> should put a photo credit beside the picture. >> >> Sometimes when racers buy a photo they also buy a release with it. Then the >> copyright belongs to the photo subject instead of the photographer and the >> subject can do whatever he wants with it. However, if known, you should >> STILL credit the photographer. >> >> Yes, even amateur photographers hold a legal copyright to photos they took. >> Simply put, you cannot use it without permission, and the subject can give >> that permission only if he has purchased or been given the right to do so >> (now if his wife shot the picture, don't worry about it -- but give her the >> photo credit; she'll be thrilled). >> >> --Rocky Entriken >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62 at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang at isis.mit.edu From koblinger at verizon.net Tue Jan 10 13:20:36 2012 From: koblinger at verizon.net (koblinger at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:20:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Fot] Calendar? Message-ID: <24446103.63593.1326226837072.JavaMail.root@vms170033> From jsiam1 at earthlink.net Wed Jan 11 07:25:34 2012 From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (Joseph Siam) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:25:34 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] Triumph Race with VARA Message-ID: <32222042.1326291935311.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi I would like to invite all you out to help VARA celebrate Triumphs 60th and the 50th for the Spitfire. Along with the usual race run groups we will be having a all Triumph race with trophies and plaques sponsored by Chequered Flag Racing. Trophies will be given out to winners in various classes. I am also working on a participant tee shirt. The two So Cal Triumph clubs have been invited. They will have a Triumph coral. Ten years ago I did the same and we had a fantastic turnout. Event info can be found at www.vararacing.com HIGH DESERT CHALLENGE Willow Springs International Raceway Rosamond, CA (near Lancaster) Mar 31st - April 1st, 2012 Thanks Joe Siam Chequered Flag Racing .net Joseph P. Siam 9833 Deering Ave unit I Chatsworth Ca 91311 818 350 6222 From jason at multivintage.com Fri Jan 13 18:37:19 2012 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:37:19 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Paramount Ranch Message-ID: Amici, Some may know already that I am a fanatical Racing historian, Collector, and life-long Triumph NUT HEAD. Anyway, In my "Ghost Track" interests, I have always been fascinated by Paramount Ranch. I will be on vacation to So.California this week and have my traditional Paramount Ranch track visit and walk around this fabulous place on tab for the morning of Friday, Jan 20th. Any "Triumph Friend" interested in meeting me out there on Friday? If anyone that raced there or even spectated there...were to show up with perspective! Lunch would surely be on me! Overlooking the ocean afterwards... at Neptune's Net in Malibu. California Bound from Chicago! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing From vintage.racer at comcast.net Mon Jan 16 12:02:02 2012 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:02:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <000801ccd481$55299540$ff7cbfc0$@racer@comcast.net> Hello All: I am nominating Richard Jacobs of Redwater, Alberta for a spot in this esteemed group. Richard is beginning a frame up restoration of a TR4 and will no doubt benefit from the advice of our knowledgeable membership. Richard's email is : jacobr3151 at yahoo.com. Do I have a second? Thank you. Gary From alfetta95 at optonline.net Mon Jan 16 12:50:15 2012 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:50:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <1db6d59.3fc2a.134e811ead1.Webtop.21@optonline.net> I second! Welcome Richard. Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS29341 On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Gary Horstkorta wrote: > Hello All: > > > I am nominating Richard Jacobs of Redwater, Alberta for a spot in this > esteemed group. Richard is beginning a frame up restoration of a TR4 > and > will no doubt benefit from the advice of our knowledgeable membership. > Richard's email is : jacobr3151 at yahoo.com. Do I have a second? Thank > you. > > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 16 12:53:00 2012 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:53:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: I'll second the nomination. Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Sent from my ASUS Eee Pad Gary Horstkorta wrote: >Hello All: > > > >I am nominating Richard Jacobs of Redwater, Alberta for a spot in this >esteemed group. Richard is beginning a frame up restoration of a TR4 and >will no doubt benefit from the advice of our knowledgeable membership. >Richard's email is : jacobr3151 at yahoo.com. Do I have a second? Thank you. > > > >Gary >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel at sbcglobal.net From wes at hsrca.org.au Tue Jan 17 00:50:26 2012 From: wes at hsrca.org.au (Wes Dayton) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:50:26 +1100 Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads Message-ID: My TR3A race car has been converted to TR6 calipers. I have on the shelf a new pair of shoes that I bought several years ago and wonder why I've never used them! They are labeled "KFP Magnum Pads" and the very faded writing on the box looks like it says "KFP5076" and then "??? (Gold). Any ideas? Or any recommendations for a purely racing TR? Wes Dayton From jacobr3151 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 04:44:52 2012 From: jacobr3151 at yahoo.com (Richard Jacob) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 03:44:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] advice required Message-ID: <1326800692.40956.YahooMailNeo@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello All, I have a TR4 which I am redoing. I have taken body off frame and have completed sandblasting and painting of frame. I am acquiring components so I can restart assembly to frame. I have some questions seeking advice #1 my car has lever rear shocks, how can I tell if these require to be reconditioned? what type/brand name oil can I use for these shocks? if they require to be reconditioned, any suggestions where to get this done? #2 my car has a solid rigid axle which has been removed with the rear end as one component, I have not taken off the rear end cover plate yet but I plan to so I can do an inspection, what should I think about replacing as per seals/bearing etc, since the rear end assembly is now out of the car? should I replace the rear end oil with standard gear oil or any other suggestions? any other other helpful suggestions with regards to inspection/etc would be appreciated? #3 I am replacing front coils any suggestions with regards to what front shocks I should be using? I would like to thank you in advance for your time and knowledge. Regards Richard From jhhasty at gdhs.com Tue Jan 17 07:26:57 2012 From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (john hasty) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:26:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brakes Message-ID: <0BFDE985501A4B059659D20855A3A77E@gdhs.local> Where can one obtain some "proper" rear brake shoe linings? Carbotec is out of material and won't have any new material for quite some time. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Jan 17 07:53:12 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:53:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads References: Message-ID: <2DE7179A1CFA457A975E4EE75EB4EE31@owner8914bbf7f> You might call Ted Schumacher. I think he sells them. 800 543-6648. Or call KFP 330 453-9757. Or Google them. KFP are supposed to be pretty good products. Good luck. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Dayton" To: "FOT" Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:50 AM Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads > My TR3A race car has been converted to TR6 calipers. I have on the shelf a > new pair of shoes that I bought several years ago and wonder why I've > never > used them! They are labeled "KFP Magnum Pads" and the very faded writing > on > the box looks like it says "KFP5076" and then "??? (Gold). > > Any ideas? Or any recommendations for a purely racing TR? > > Wes Dayton > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Jan 17 07:55:47 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:55:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brakes References: <0BFDE985501A4B059659D20855A3A77E@gdhs.local> Message-ID: Ted Schumacher does relines. Also Porterfield in California. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "john hasty" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: [Fot] Brakes > Where can one obtain some "proper" rear brake shoe linings? Carbotec is > out > of material and won't have any new material for quite some time. > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) > is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information > that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Jan 17 08:26:29 2012 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:26:29 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Brake Pads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120117152643.E90671878F3@autox.team.net> No idea what those are, but I run Carbotech AX-6 compound in my TR-4 and am very happy with that compound. Easy on the rotors, stops good, no fade, no warmup needed. Tony Drews At 01:50 AM 1/17/2012, Wes Dayton wrote: >My TR3A race car has been converted to TR6 calipers. I have on the shelf a >new pair of shoes that I bought several years ago and wonder why I've never >used them! They are labeled "KFP Magnum Pads" and the very faded writing on >the box looks like it says "KFP5076" and then "??? (Gold). > >Any ideas? Or any recommendations for a purely racing TR? > >Wes Dayton From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Tue Jan 17 11:45:29 2012 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:45:29 -0800 Subject: [Fot] advice required In-Reply-To: <1326800692.40956.YahooMailNeo@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1326800692.40956.YahooMailNeo@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0d6201ccd548$2ffaf800$8ff0e800$@rr.com> > I have a TR4 which I am redoing. Is this a restoration, "driver", or race car? > my car has lever rear shocks, how can I tell if these require to be > reconditioned? One clue is if they are oily outside, or low on oil. A leak at the shaft indicates a rebuild. You can also clamp the shock upright by the ears (not the body) in a vise and move the lever throughout its range. After a few cycles, you should feel strong, smooth resistance to movement throughout the stroke. If there are places that are harder or easier, or the lever moves easily, the shock needs attention. My opinion, you should plan on removing the top and operating valve (plug on the side), cleaning as best you can without disassembling, and filling with fresh oil before doing this test. > what > type/brand name oil can I use for these shocks? Many LBC vendors sell "Armstrong shock oil". Personally, I use motorcycle fork oil (don't recall the brand) which is available in a variety of grades for more or less damping effort. Original was about 20 weight, I use 30 weight in my "driver". Had to find a "Harley" shop to get 30 weight as most modern bikes use much thinner oil. > what should I think about > replacing as per seals/bearing etc, since the rear end assembly is now > out of the car? Look at the gear teeth, if you can see any metal worn away (rather than just shiny spots), or if the faces are at all rough, pitted, grooved, etc. then it needs a total overhaul with a new gear set. I failed to take my own advice recently, and the howl is really unpleasant. Turn each shaft by hand. Some resistance is OK, but it must be perfectly smooth. Any roughness or tight spots again indicates a rebuild. If that all looks good, I would replace the inner seals at each wheel, and the pinion (input) shaft seal, as a matter of course. Don't forget to check and adjust the end play after installing both axles. Definitely replace the oil! For restoration or a "driver", I recommend Valvoline 75W90 full synthetic gear oil in the diff. No doubt others are good too, but I ran the SynPower for many years (and miles) in my TR3A and it worked very well, IMO. (I wish now I hadn't sold that axle, it was a lot better than the one I just put in the TR3) I'm not a racer (yet), so I'll let others comment on what they use in their race cars. > #3 I am replacing front coils any suggestions with > regards to > what front shocks I should be using? That depends a great deal on the answer to what you are building (and what springs you are using). For a restoration or driver, the stock shocks from the usual suspects (Moss, TRF, VB) should do fine. I tried some Spax adjustable and I'm not happy with them at the moment as I haven't (as yet) been able to get them adjusted to match. -- Randall From jsiam1 at earthlink.net Wed Jan 18 06:14:07 2012 From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (Joseph Siam) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:14:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire caliper brackets Message-ID: <6524751.1326892447324.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi I am still in need of early Spitfire caliper brackets. They are a separate piece that bolts to the vertical link it has 4 holes the 4 hole flange area is square. The GT6 one is round. Thanks Joe Chequered Flag Racing .net Joseph P. Siam 9833 Deering Ave unit I Chatsworth Ca 91311 818 350 6222 From dos_gusanos at msn.com Wed Jan 18 16:09:59 2012 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:09:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Want to buy TR6 ring and pinion Message-ID: I THINK I have the 4.1 in my car based on the rev's at cruising and the way the speedometer acts. There's lots of slop in the setup and I would like to go back to the lower ratio. Anybody want to unload one? Has anyone bought the 3:45 setup on ebay? only $300? Cheers Henry Morrison From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Wed Jan 18 19:59:11 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:59:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Want to buy TR6 ring and pinion References: Message-ID: Henry, is the slop in the R&P, or the side/pinion gears? I may have a lower raatio one lying around. I'd also like to try a 4:1sometime. Maybe we could trade. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Morrison" To: "fot" Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:09 PM Subject: [Fot] Want to buy TR6 ring and pinion >I THINK I have the 4.1 in my car based on the rev's at cruising and the way > the speedometer acts. There's lots of slop in the setup and I would like > to > go back to the lower ratio. Anybody want to unload one? Has anyone > bought > the 3:45 setup on ebay? only $300? > > Cheers Henry Morrison > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net From gt6steve at aol.com Thu Jan 19 14:34:52 2012 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:34:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] eb136 Message-ID: <8CEA509507D38B0-1668-4E20@webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com> Hello, do you recognize me? http://sdawholesale.com/forthehorde.php?fakyidname=70 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:34:51 __________________ " Portuguese^ Espargo" (c) PETER vlaggenparade From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Jan 20 12:20:53 2012 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:20:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] PHOENIX Message-ID: <8CEA5BFC2BD3CCE-2464-1088C@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> Just hammered a TR3 at $54,000 at Goodings....moments ago. Saw Tim and Andy....they look very important in their suits. We are more comfortable.....so is John Nikas and Casey Annis. Good to see our friends........................auction summary: Barrett-Jackson was like the IOWA STATE FAIR without the pigs and sheep. RM was very elegant, well done and amazing. Goodings is a smaller version of RM and delightful as we are welcome everywhere. Silver Auctions is the auction for the great unwashed and not to be missed... We are missing RUSSO AND STEELE and BOTHAMS...... Another great adventure....... for elderly FOTs, Joe Alexander Tom Chandler Kent Howard From budscars at comcast.net Fri Jan 20 13:02:36 2012 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:02:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] PHOENIX References: <8CEA5BFC2BD3CCE-2464-1088C@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <41FD67333E0E4F108E9D87F8E1F65A66@Bud> Have fun Gang!!!..Rock On! Racer Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: [Fot] PHOENIX > Just hammered a TR3 at $54,000 at Goodings....moments ago. > > Saw Tim and Andy....they look very important in their suits. > > We are more comfortable.....so is John Nikas and Casey Annis. > > Good to see our friends........................auction summary: > > Barrett-Jackson was like the IOWA STATE FAIR without the pigs and sheep. > > RM was very elegant, well done and amazing. > > Goodings is a smaller version of RM and delightful as we are welcome > everywhere. > > Silver Auctions is the auction for the great unwashed and not to be > missed... > > We are missing RUSSO AND STEELE and BOTHAMS...... > > Another great adventure....... for elderly FOTs, > > Joe Alexander > Tom Chandler > Kent Howard > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars at comcast.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Jan 21 08:33:53 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:33:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FOT Mitty update Message-ID: 2012 Kastner Cup / Mitty Update. Right now we have 41 drivers hoping to attend. It is not too late to get your name added to the shirt if you are planning on attending let me know. I have been in discussion with Classic Motorsports and they are interested in putting a photo spread on the Mitty.com web site of all the FOT attending. Maybe we could do the same thing on the FOT web site. I will be coordinating this. So, if you are planning on running at the Mitty email me some pictures. Pictures of you and your car, pictures of your car, pictures of your crew, whatever you have that would be appropriate. Send them to me at trmarty at hotmail.com with Mitty pictures in the subject line so I know what all the attachments are that start showing up. The sooner the better. As far as the shirts, there is still time to order your 2012 Kastner Cup shirts. There is still time to order FOT shirts also but we are a ways off from hitting the minimum buy quantity of 48 shirts on those. Marty From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Sat Jan 21 09:52:01 2012 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:52:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LSD Message-ID: Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill From spitlist at cox.net Sat Jan 21 10:32:41 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:32:41 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <951C751A93F24AC5BDC1BEBE1BE7D808@Vista> I think you are talking about "Phantom Grip". It amounts to spring loade blocks that are installed between the spider gears and is supposed to create a limited slip diff. Trust me, it is more "Phantom" than grip and the people who have tried it and think it does any good are falling for the placebo effect. I tried one and did not see any difference in that and running an open diff. JOe -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of william r tobin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:52 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LSD Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net From trmarty at hotmail.com Sat Jan 21 10:50:00 2012 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mitty HSR License Info Message-ID: Below is a reply from Judy Marchione, HSR Registrar in regards to my question to her as to if my VRG license would be accepted at the Mitty. "Yes, you can race on your VRG license. You will enter as a non-member on the entry form and enclose a copy of your VRG license with your entry" Marty From toodamnfunky at comcast.net Sat Jan 21 12:40:58 2012 From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:40:58 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20120121194629.3AF4D187667@autox.team.net> In a search for Firm Grip I didn't find anything. If it is similar to the phantom grip it will likely be rubbish. Some time ago I looked into the phantom grip and the user feedback was as expected, it's junk that doesn't do what they claim. I ended up with a quaiffe which works great in the IRS cars. Jim G -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of william r tobin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:52 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LSD Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Jan 21 13:15:10 2012 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:15:10 +0100 Subject: [Fot] LSD In-Reply-To: <20120121194629.3AF4D187667@autox.team.net> References: <20120121194629.3AF4D187667@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <000101ccd879$6310ce70$29326b50$@com> As for Phantom grip: The name is program: With phantom grip, grip remains a phantom. You'll better get a real LSD or weld up your diff as I did (recommendation by Kas when I looked for a LSD). Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Jim Gray Gesendet: Samstag, 21. Januar 2012 20:41 An: 'william r tobin'; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] LSD In a search for Firm Grip I didn't find anything. If it is similar to the phantom grip it will likely be rubbish. Some time ago I looked into the phantom grip and the user feedback was as expected, it's junk that doesn't do what they claim. I ended up with a quaiffe which works great in the IRS cars. Jim G -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of william r tobin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:52 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LSD Hi Gang, has anyone heard of or used a thing called Firm Grip? It's supposed to be a quick and easy limited slip setup. $130 or so. I remember the old saying: If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com