From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep  1 05:17:13 2011
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 07:17:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dean Tetterton
Message-ID: <E132B6DD7C2C4D2F8CC8E70E195A522B@userb38463fba5>

I'd like to get in touch with Dean.

Dean I'd like to have your e-mail address so we can discuss your A/C set up in
your TR6. We talked about it at the TRF SP.

Thanks,
Jerry Van Vlack

From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  1 06:23:47 2011
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:23:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <8CE361CCB55A158-125C-24042@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Duck is at:
 
Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083
 
920-451-5000
 
I was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.
 
Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11, n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From: n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM


....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Thu Sep  1 06:27:07 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:27:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FOT
In-Reply-To: <4E5EEC14.5030700@gt-classics.com>
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	<00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
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I'll second it. I should have nominated him a long time ago. He's been coming
to CVAR races and scratching his itch. He also is a part of the Sherlock
Homeboyz Lemon's TR6 effort and dose a real nice job driving.  He just needs a
race car to get started..

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of R. John Lye
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:21 PM
To: MORDY DUNST
Cc: Dustin Nicholson; FOT
Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT

I'll nominate Dustin for membership, although I haven't seen him for a few
years, he's a good one and will learn a lot from this bunch (some of which his
father would probably prefer that he not learn! :-) ).

John Lye

On 8/31/2011 12:01 AM, MORDY DUNST wrote:
> Dustin:
>
> I will post this on the FOT email site.  You may get a response from
> some local folks.
>
> good luck racing...
>
> Mordy
>
> M.N.Dunst
> Gasket Works USA, LLC
> www.Headgasket.com
> 626.358.1616 ph1
> 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
>
> Triple R Munitions, Inc.
> Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
> 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
> GMT-8 Pacific
>
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Dustin Nicholson
>    To: gasket.works at gte.net
>    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM
>    Subject: FOT
>
>
>    Hi, I'm a long time follower of FOT from the outside.  I've got
> several friends (mostly in Texas) that race Triumphs in CVAR and I'm
> looking to get into it myself.  For the last 15 years I have had stock
> spitfires and have autocrossed them at VTR conventions and I have done
> a 24 hours of LeMons in a TR6, but am now ready to get a real race
> car.  Can you help me find a beginner racing Triumph?  I'd really like to
become a  member of FOT, how do I do that?
> I understand y'all have an email group that I'd like to be a part of.
>
>
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Dustin Nicholson
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep  1 07:37:05 2011
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (jerryvv at roadrunner.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 9:37:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dean Tetterton
Message-ID: <20110901133705.CZXRH.230658.root@hrndva-web12-z02>

Thanks to all, I've heard from Dean and yes he's been dealing with Hurricane issues.
JVV

From trdoctor at aol.com  Thu Sep  1 08:50:20 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:50:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT NOMINATION
In-Reply-To: <mailman.41026.1314880044.3301.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.41026.1314880044.3301.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <E97B03AD-8650-43EA-A730-C7EA25FAE15D@aol.com>

I will second the nomination.  I have known Dustin for a number of years and
he is a fine young man.  His mom, Louise, and step father, Don Carter are
fixtures in the Houston club and pretty hot shoes in their own right.

Sam Clark
Green Country Triumphs

On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:27 AM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> I'll nominate Dustin for membership, although I haven't seen him
> for a few years, he's a good one and will learn a lot from this
> bunch (some of which his father would probably prefer that he
> not learn! :-) ).
>
> John Lye

From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep  1 09:14:35 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 08:14:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1314890075.19057.YahooMailRC@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

anybody have a clue as to why?????  

why he is in the hospital that is ...
just to avoid some of the s.a.  comments 
that someone like me might make ...
 
Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white
spitfire




________________________________
From: Ernest Husmann
<ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net; n197tr4 at cs.com
Cc: Scott Barr
<sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, September 1, 2011 7:23:47 AM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....

Duck is at:

Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical
Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083

920-451-5000

I
was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so
I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.

Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11,
n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From: n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date:
Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM


....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.
Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well
as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the
North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure
as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at
ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that
it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard
about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at
VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep  1 09:24:31 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:24:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <1314890075.19057.YahooMailRC@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<1314890075.19057.YahooMailRC@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CE36D2607F280D-2728-36EC1@webmail-m138.sysops.aol.com>

right now there is no big mystery....just privacy issues and pending results.

joe a.








-----Original Message-----
From: tom strange <tstrange at sbcglobal.net>
To: Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>; n197tr4
<n197tr4 at cs.com>
Cc: Scott Barr <sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 10:14 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....




anybody have a clue as to why?????

why he is in the hospital that is ... just to avoid some of the s.a.  comments
that someone like me might make ...

Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire





From: Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net; n197tr4 at cs.com
Cc: Scott Barr <sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, September 1, 2011 7:23:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....

Duck is at:

Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083

920-451-5000

I was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.

Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11, n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From: n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM


....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Thu Sep  1 09:32:51 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:32:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
Message-ID: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>

My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this before)

From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Sep  1 09:51:59 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 11:51:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D92ECCEB-6145-4CEA-BE0A-4F8D69CC6388@me.com>

Perhaps the pin holding the throw-out bearing fork to the cross-shaft is broken, loose or the hole in the shaft is egged out.  Unfortunately, this requires pulling the trans to find out.  These pins usually shear off when you try to unscrew them.  Ask me how I know . . . 

On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:

My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this before)
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Sep  1 09:56:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:56:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003501cc68bf$bce68d10$36b3a730$@com>

I suppose your pin at the cross shaft broke.
To relieve the ring from its load I added a steel pin through that shaft.
See the photo:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/B1ksv9fAbRKpgnZs3xDKkg?feat=directlink

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Henry Morrison
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. September 2011 17:33
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me

My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this
before)
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Thu Sep  1 11:39:41 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:39:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <09E5FDF6743E4CCC9E4E3DDF506F798C@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi list, I agree with Scott and Chris as to the taper pin holding the fork 
to the cross shaft being the culprit.
Another wear point is the pins that actually hold the T/O brg to the fork; 
they can wear flat and cause problems. A quick and effective fix is to grab 
the pins with Channel locks and turn them half way around (they are just 
pressed in) and you have a new pin surface. Or just buy new ones. PN 100164 
from TRF; $2.50 ea. NFI.
If the taper pin is broken off in the cross shaft it can be a PITA to get 
out. PN 158777 $12. Always good to reinforce the fork when you have it 
apart. (I know of one that is welded!) Chris' idea is very good.
The cross shaft bushings are also replacable.
Good luck.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:32 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me


> My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. 
> but
> most of the time not.
>
> Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.
>
> If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
> crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.
>
> Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.
>
> My desperate attempts to fix this include...................
>
> replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed 
> cylinder
> backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
> adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.
>
> The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the 
> pressure
> plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
> bearing was NOS.
>
> I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm 
> just
> not hard enough on the clutch.
>
> Thank you in advande for your insights..........
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this 
> before)
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Thu Sep  1 11:57:12 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:57:12 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <AB3005DF-DC3D-43EF-9536-DB0923004AF9@me.com>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>,
	<AB3005DF-DC3D-43EF-9536-DB0923004AF9@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W179A8BA95578D284ECCCB790190@phx.gbl>

Thank you for all the replies and suggestions.

Here's my run down,

The slave is installed with the bleed screw up.

I just rebuilt the engine and have checked for crankshaft float with a pry bar
and by stepping on the clutch running and not.

I replaced the pin on the throw out bearing pivot cross rod etc.

Haven't gone 400 miles since doing all this.

The concensus of the group and what I was fearing is, this Saturday morning
I'll get to take out the transmission and look at what's gong on in the guts
of the thing.............I'll report back on my measurements, calculations and
other findings as long as they make me look very intelligent.   Cheers Henry



From: sjanzen at me.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:24:18 -0400
To: dos_gusanos at msn.com


by the way, this is a tapered pin and tapered hole in the shaft, to add to the
complication of drilling out the old rusted piece.



On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:
My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this before)
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 12:52:12 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:52:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0F73CEE0-98DF-41E3-9E3A-C23FFA0803D6@gmail.com>

Henry,
I have a slave cylinder on a Morgan Plus 8 that's installed with the bleeder
nipple at a poor angle and I found that it worked best if I bled it first and
then mounted it.  Is that an option?

Also -- you mentioned that yours is a mix 'n match setup, so I wonder if you
simply don't have enough travel on the slave cylinder's pushrod.  You might
look into using a larger bore master cylinder so that you move more fluid per
inch of stroke.  Pedal effort will go up somewhat.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 red #6
On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:

> My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally.
but
> most of the time not.
>
> Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.
>
> If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
> crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.
>
> Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.
>
> My desperate attempts to fix this include...................
>
> replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed
cylinder
> backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
> adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.
>
> The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the
pressure
> plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
> bearing was NOS.
>
> I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
> not hard enough on the clutch.
>
> Thank you in advande for your insights..........
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this
before)
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep  1 15:36:55 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:36:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CE3706676378ED-156C-29CBD@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com>

Duck is feeling much better now.

Back to RA today or tomorrow.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>; n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Cc: Scott Barr <sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 7:23 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....




Duck is at:

Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083

920-451-5000

I was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.

Ernie

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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Thu Sep  1 19:09:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:09:29 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
Message-ID: <103C8F47-9CE1-4DBD-8BB7-0402BA570889@aol.com>

Amici
The flags have arrived!  Unfortunately I have not seen them only because I am
off galavanting with the wife doing the honeymoon thing. As soon as I get back
I will be shipping them out. That should be around September 12.

If you haven't ordered one yet I will have extras.

If you haven't ordered a grill badge, I have them also. $30 each, shipping
included.

Thanks

From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep  1 19:45:11 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 01:45:11 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
Message-ID: <mailman.48.1314927933.3298.fot@autox.team.net>

Honeymoon??!!
Shouldn't you be doing more important things than emailing your buddys about these stupid flags? Get busy. Enjoy it while it lasts! CONGRADULATIONS!!!
------Original Message------
From: Christopher Bock
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: FoTTriumph
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
Sent: Sep 1, 2011 8:09 PM

Amici
The flags have arrived!  Unfortunately I have not seen them only because I am
off galavanting with the wife doing the honeymoon thing. As soon as I get back
I will be shipping them out. That should be around September 12.

If you haven't ordered one yet I will have extras.

If you haven't ordered a grill badge, I have them also. $30 each, shipping
included.

Thanks
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Thu Sep  1 22:45:04 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:45:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
In-Reply-To: <1766844121-1314927912-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-530974992-@b26.c3.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1766844121-1314927912-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-530974992-@b26.c3.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <50159694-570D-49E5-8720-DAC63EAB543D@aol.com>

Hey
I am getting busy.  I just needed a break.
Thanks I will enjoy it



On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:45 PM, jason at multivintage.com wrote:

> Honeymoon??!!
> Shouldn't you be doing more important things than emailing your buddys about
these stupid flags? Get busy. Enjoy it while it lasts! CONGRADULATIONS!!!
> ------Original Message------
> From: Christopher Bock
> Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: FoTTriumph
> Subject: [Fot] Flags!
> Sent: Sep 1, 2011 8:09 PM
>
> Amici
> The flags have arrived!  Unfortunately I have not seen them only because I
am
> off galavanting with the wife doing the honeymoon thing. As soon as I get
back
> I will be shipping them out. That should be around September 12.
>
> If you haven't ordered one yet I will have extras.
>
> If you haven't ordered a grill badge, I have them also. $30 each, shipping
> included.
>
> Thanks
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From gaf3 at charter.net  Fri Sep  2 12:13:03 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:13:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
Message-ID: <4E611CAF.7080902@charter.net>

Group
Does anyone out there have the proper dimension for valve installed 
height for a later model 1974 TR6 engine.
This is the dimension between the valve spring retainer and head.
I remember finding this for my Spit Race car engine but can't seem to 
locate it for the TR6.
I just finished up a 3 angle valve job on a customers car and I would 
like to assemble it with the proper shims but can't seem to locate the 
right dimension.
Currently the height after machining it is 1.250".
My machine shop can't find the dimension either.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Glenn Franco

From capecoventryracing at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 12:13:55 2011
From: capecoventryracing at gmail.com (John Nikas)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:13:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 9th Annual Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <CACWViu87cijxSEGhGFS5Z2i6hk83Py4vCSOsRHwUc-9z-ESeBw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all. I've posted pictures from the Kastner Cup on my Facebook page
including professional shots of the cars on the corkscrew. If you search
Cape Coventry on Facebook you should find them all.

-- 
Very truly yours,

John Nikas
Cape Coventry Racing
www.capecoventryracing.com
(949) 375-6306

From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 12:53:30 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is yours????
Message-ID: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>

I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
extension off my TR4....................

Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM

From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 14:37:15 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:37:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
 yours????
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>

Never mind, I figured out this extension is for my TR4................Cheers
Henry


> From: dos_gusanos at msn.com
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
> Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????
>
> I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
> extension off my TR4....................
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM
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From chasgee at aol.com  Fri Sep  2 16:30:20 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:30:20 -0700
Subject: [Fot]
 =?utf-8?q?My_TR3_fan_extension_is_4=2E7_inches_long_How_lon?=
 =?utf-8?b?ZyBpcyB5b3VycyA/Pz8/?=
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
	<SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0ab7d21d-5586-4311-b95a-c59c08dd213b@blur>

I knew you just wanted to brag...

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 21:03:18 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is  
yours????

Never mind, I figured out this extension is for my TR4................Cheers
Henry


> From: dos_gusanos at msn.com
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
> Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????
>
> I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
> extension off my TR4....................
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 16:38:36 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:38:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
 yours????
In-Reply-To: <0ab7d21d-5586-4311-b95a-c59c08dd213b@blur>
References: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
	<SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>,
	<0ab7d21d-5586-4311-b95a-c59c08dd213b@blur>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W420CF9D4AE69A0663EBB5590180@phx.gbl>

Well OK, check out my webcam.................




From: chasgee at aol.com
To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:30:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????





I knew you just wanted to brag...

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----


From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 21:03:18 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????

Never mind, I figured out this extension is for my TR4................Cheers
Henry


> From: dos_gusanos at msn.com
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
> Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????
>
> I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
> extension off my TR4....................
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM
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From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Fri Sep  2 16:37:37 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob Davis)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:37:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction
In-Reply-To: <00be01cc6792$e290d350$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
References: <00be01cc6792$e290d350$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
Message-ID: <4E615AB1.9010100@cfl.rr.com>

Not far from me so I will be there to have a look and possibly bid if it 
is a decent one.

Bob

On 8/31/11 12:03 AM, MORDY DUNST wrote:
> I am forwarding this information the group.
>
> NFI...
>
> Mordy
>
> M.N.Dunst
> Gasket Works USA, LLC
> www.Headgasket.com
> 626.358.1616 ph1
> 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
>
> Triple R Munitions, Inc.
> Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
> 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
> GMT-8 Pacific
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shuler Auctions
> To: gasket.works at gte.net
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:16 PM
> Subject: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction
>
>
> We will be Auctioning a 1968 TR250 on Sept 18th at Public Auction in
> Titusville, Florida.  Do you have a place that we can post this info?
>
> Thank You,
> Debbie Shuler AU#3756
> Cliff Shuler Auctioneers&  Liquidators, Inc. AB#9/AU#14
> Shuler&  Shuler Real Estate Auctioneers, Inc.
> Secretary/Treasurer Florida Auctioneers Association
> 422 Julia St., Titusville, FL 32796
> www.soldfor.com
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Sep  3 07:28:59 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:28:59 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
Message-ID: <001701cc6a3d$72330f80$56992e80$@com>

I've just heard that the professional racing driver Volker Strycek will enter
our race in a TR4:
http://en.wikipedia..../Volker_Strycek


That will make it difficult for me to be somewhere on front.

Cheers
Chris

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Sep  3 07:31:25 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:31:25 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain> 
Message-ID: <001801cc6a3d$c84bec70$58e3c550$@com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volker_Strycek


-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: MadMarx [mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. September 2011 15:29
An: 'fot at autox.team.net'
Betreff: AW: AW: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace

I've just heard that the professional racing driver Volker Strycek will enter
our race in a TR4:
http://en.wikipedia..../Volker_Strycek


That will make it difficult for me to be somewhere on front.

Cheers
Chris

From gaf3 at charter.net  Sat Sep  3 14:03:53 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:03:53 -0400
Subject: [Fot] [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
In-Reply-To: <COL123-DS49D2E18E6474717D763C8F41B0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL123-DS49D2E18E6474717D763C8F41B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E628829.9080809@charter.net>

Dick
I do all of my head work including refacing valves, seats and guides.
When you reface the valves and seats the valve sits slightly lower in 
the seat.
That allows the valve stem to protrude further out of the head. That 
lessens the valve spring tension.
These are washers that fit below the valve spring to regain correct 
spring height.
The manual gives spring free height which means almost nothing except if 
you should discard or not.
New or reusable springs have to be set to a certain height to regain 
proper tension.
So far I have received nothing but dead air on this.
I can't believe I'm the only one out there that does their own head work.
Thanks for your interest
Glenn
On 9/3/2011 2:58 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor wrote:
> Where would you place these shims? Under the rocker pedestals? Under the valve springs?
>
> Dick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Franco
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 1:34 PM
> To: Sally or Dick Taylor
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
>
> Dick - That's the first thing I referred to, the Kaz's booklets and then
> some TR6 Resto Guides. No one has that detail I guess.
>           Anyway I ordered some .060" VSI's .
> Thanks Glenn
>
> On 9/2/2011 3:07 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor wrote:
>> Glenn---My Bentley manual is not handy at this time, but I think the dimension you are looking for could be included in the valve pages in this book.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Glenn Franco
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 11:13 AM
>> To: Friends of triumph, 6pack at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
>>
>> Group
>> Does anyone out there have the proper dimension for valve installed
>> height for a later model 1974 TR6 engine.
>> This is the dimension between the valve spring retainer and head.
>> I remember finding this for my Spit Race car engine but can't seem to
>> locate it for the TR6.
>> I just finished up a 3 angle valve job on a customers car and I would
>> like to assemble it with the proper shims but can't seem to locate the
>> right dimension.
>> Currently the height after machining it is 1.250".
>> My machine shop can't find the dimension either.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> Glenn Franco
>>
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> 6pack at autox.team.net
>>
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sat Sep  3 15:02:47 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:02:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
In-Reply-To: <4E628829.9080809@charter.net>
References: <COL123-DS49D2E18E6474717D763C8F41B0@phx.gbl>
	<4E628829.9080809@charter.net>
Message-ID: <0a5b01cc6a7c$d5dad880$0301a8c0@randall>

> New or reusable springs have to be set to a certain height to regain 
> proper tension.

Actually, the proper procedure is to measure the installed tension and then
install shims as necessary.  The installed tension is given in the workshop
manual.

If you have ground the seats enough to cause spring tension problems, you're
also losing power from reduced breathing (the pocketing reduces effective
cam lift and timing).  The usual solution is either oversize valves, or new
seats.

-- Randall  

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Sep  4 03:12:59 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:12:59 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain> 
Message-ID: <000001cc6ae2$d9079e10$8b16da30$@com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volker_Strycek


-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: MadMarx [mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. September 2011 15:29
An: 'fot at autox.team.net'
Betreff: AW: AW: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace

I've just heard that the professional racing driver Volker Strycek will enter
our race in a TR4:
http://en.wikipedia..../Volker_Strycek


That will make it difficult for me to be somewhere on front.

Cheers
Chris

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Sep  4 09:57:43 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:57:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hastings and RMVR/HVR
Message-ID: <8CE393283C7262E-1F0C-422AF@Webmail-m118.sysops.aol.com>

Hasting's MPH track is absolutely brilliant for our purposes this weekend.

great facilities.
great weather
great people
affordable

three generations of Alexander's and add in cousins and their offspring.
everyone playing well with each other and car running great.

Jim Gray and Dan Forgey our FOT hosts along with a TR3 and a Spitfire.

Life is very good.

Wish everyone could go everywhere all of the time.....this one is a good one
for us.

Regards,

Joe A.

From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sun Sep  4 10:28:42 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:28:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] interesting comparison of speeds...
Message-ID: <001a01cc6b1f$b6143e80$223cbb80$@rogers.com>

Interesting comparison between GT racers and F1:

 

http://www.brainblog.to/item/2011/09/geschwindigkeitsvergleich-gt-vs-formel1

From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sun Sep  4 21:39:22 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 21:39:22 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>

Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..

http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>

Kevin, Colo.

From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Sep  4 22:07:40 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 21:07:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>

thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop area..the 
horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for me to find 
out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3 hours ago..they 
live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to go if 
evacuated.....
it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
Thanks
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com>
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires


> Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
>
> http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
> tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
>
> Kevin, Colo.
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sun Sep  4 23:12:35 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:12:35 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds15A15477D67AB7AF536465B71D0@phx.gbl>

I 'think' what's adding to the problem Bud is it's a Nat'l holiday, so the
news agencies our on a skeleton crew so  folks that r packed & ready but
aren't able to view/read the latest intel, are afraid to fall asleep.
Last but not least, the area affected is so big.  The larger of these burns is
currently 100 miles square.
And with N. winds at 15-20... it 'could' be the 'big one' they were afraid of
-  hope not.
Kev
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: RACER BUD<mailto:budscars at comcast.net>
  To: KEVIN LYNCH<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com> ; FOT<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


  thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop area..the
  horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for me to find
  out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3 hours ago..they
  live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to go if
  evacuated.....
  it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
  Thanks
  Racer Bud
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>>
  To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
  Subject: [Fot] TX. fires


  > Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
  >
  >
http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
<http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/%3
Cht>
  > tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
  >
  > Kevin, Colo.
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Mon Sep  5 07:04:36 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 07:04:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <34032906-15DB-4B4F-89D2-8FAAF2E0DC2E@me.com>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>,
	<AB3005DF-DC3D-43EF-9536-DB0923004AF9@me.com>,
	<SNT134-W179A8BA95578D284ECCCB790190@phx.gbl>,
	<34032906-15DB-4B4F-89D2-8FAAF2E0DC2E@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W12EDECD041EED4D90A4E28901D0@phx.gbl>

Thanks again to everyone who reply to my cry for help.  The brain storming
session really helped.  Here's how it all went down.  I took everything apart
and was concerned about the cltch fork so I cross drilled it for the hell of
it and turned the little pegs, and threw enough of it all back together for a
running test.  Those two things didn't do it.  So I tore it apart, spent an
hour rounding up six .075" thick washers and placed them between the pressure
plate and the flywheel.  Now the car feels like it has a crappy old clutch in
it again.  But will it all fly apart?  Should I have used the .055" thick
washers?

On a happy note I hooked up with two TR4 buddies working on clutches yesterday
and we all drove our cars and got a beer, grease and all.


Cheers,  Henry Morrison,

Cedar Crest, NM

From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 07:32:17 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:32:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  TX. fires
References: <C402D6E1-FF5A-4916-85DC-FEF4BA9AF86E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7DD6A03B-BB4B-4ECE-B67D-4D0B2E6E5113@gmail.com>

We're about five or six miles west of the one that started up in Bastrop
yesterday.  300 homes lost as of the evening news time and the fire was 16
miles long and six miles wide, but zero percent contained.  Winds did not drop
much last night and will be back up today to 20 mph, no doubt with gusts
around 30 or better (44 mph noted at the Austin airport yesterday and we saw
30 here at the house).  This is courtesy of what's left of tropical storm Lee
(we're unfortunately on the dry side).  Although the cold front that came
through last night should bring cooler temperatures (yesterday was the 80th
100+F day this year, setting a new record) the humidity is expected to drop a
lot, which is really bad news for the firefighters.  We're in the worst
drought year ever recorded here (not the longest drought by far but it is the
most acute) so standing trees are turning brown.  At least half of Bastrop
State Park (Lost Pines) is burned up.   Holiday weekend means lots of human
activity involving outdoor cooking and alcohol + high winds + high
temperatures + low humidity = huge chance of fires.  We heard that fires were
moving at 40 mph during the afternoon.  Firefighters had to concentrate on
evacuating, not putting out fires.  We had seen a thunderhead building to our
east so we looked at the radar and noted a very strange rain pattern, starting
from a pinpoint at the north end and spreading southward for many miles.  The
fire had already jumped the Colorado River by then.  Strange in that it looked
just like a smoke plume starting from a pinpoint source.  I didn't realize it
would show up on radar as a rain shower if severe enough.  The cumulus clouds
were being pushed up by the rapid heat production of the fire.  It's still
hard to get much information about what's going on.  We do know that highway
71 through Bastrop is still closed this morning but hopefully the other roads
towards Houston are open now.

The sad thing is that this is just one of many fires in the area (there's a
pretty big one not far from Lakeway). The fact that there's a holiday means
more human activity away from concentrated work places, and therefore more
chances of new fires today.  That and rubberneckers going into evacuated
areas.  It's going to be an interesting day.  We have all our hoses and
sprinklers set out and the spray tank is on the tractor to give us a little
edge if it comes here.  We're out in the open and the cows and horses have
eaten the grass down to nubs, so the main concern is the woods down by the
creek and the trees and bushes along the road, which are all turning brown.

Duncan
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  5 08:59:17 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 07:59:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  TX. fires
In-Reply-To: <7DD6A03B-BB4B-4ECE-B67D-4D0B2E6E5113@gmail.com>
References: <C402D6E1-FF5A-4916-85DC-FEF4BA9AF86E@gmail.com>
	<7DD6A03B-BB4B-4ECE-B67D-4D0B2E6E5113@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1315234757.18042.YahooMailRC@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I dont know what any of us at a distance could do to help, but our thoughts
are 
with all those in the area.  If there is something that the ones of us
far away 
could help with, dont forget to say so.
  That is what friends are
for....
 
Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4
white spitfire




________________________________
From: Duncan Charlton
<duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon,
September 5, 2011 8:32:17 AM
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TX. fires

We're about five
or six miles west of the one that started up in Bastrop
yesterday.  300 homes
lost as of the evening news time and the fire was 16
miles long and six miles
wide, but zero percent contained.  Winds did not drop
much last night and will
be back up today to 20 mph, no doubt with gusts
around 30 or better (44 mph
noted at the Austin airport yesterday and we saw
30 here at the house).  This
is courtesy of what's left of tropical storm Lee
(we're unfortunately on the
dry side).  Although the cold front that came
through last night should bring
cooler temperatures (yesterday was the 80th
100+F day this year, setting a new
record) the humidity is expected to drop a
lot, which is really bad news for
the firefighters.  We're in the worst
drought year ever recorded here (not the
longest drought by far but it is the
most acute) so standing trees are turning
brown.  At least half of Bastrop
State Park (Lost Pines) is burned up. 
Holiday weekend means lots of human
activity involving outdoor cooking and
alcohol + high winds + high
temperatures + low humidity = huge chance of
fires.  We heard that fires were
moving at 40 mph during the afternoon. 
Firefighters had to concentrate on
evacuating, not putting out fires.  We had
seen a thunderhead building to our
east so we looked at the radar and noted a
very strange rain pattern, starting
from a pinpoint at the north end and
spreading southward for many miles.  The
fire had already jumped the Colorado
River by then.  Strange in that it looked
just like a smoke plume starting
from a pinpoint source.  I didn't realize it
would show up on radar as a rain
shower if severe enough.  The cumulus clouds
were being pushed up by the rapid
heat production of the fire.  It's still
hard to get much information about
what's going on.  We do know that highway
71 through Bastrop is still closed
this morning but hopefully the other roads
towards Houston are open now.

The
sad thing is that this is just one of many fires in the area (there's a
pretty
big one not far from Lakeway). The fact that there's a holiday means
more
human activity away from concentrated work places, and therefore more
chances
of new fires today.  That and rubberneckers going into evacuated
areas.  It's
going to be an interesting day.  We have all our hoses and
sprinklers set out
and the spray tank is on the tractor to give us a little
edge if it comes
here.  We're out in the open and the cows and horses have
eaten the grass down
to nubs, so the main concern is the woods down by the
creek and the trees and
bushes along the road, which are all turning brown.

Duncan
1952 Morgan Plus 4
#6 red
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From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com  Mon Sep  5 10:31:46 2011
From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:31:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
Message-ID: <A015507B320545E68E8A189422CCB0D6@latitudefb1e41>

Lakway isn't far from the Steiner Ranch fire but I think the north wind will 
keep them out of the path. Volente is just a few miles north of the fire and 
Lakeway is to our west. We should be fine but if you want to keep up with 
the fires here's a couple of local news links:
http://www.kxan.com/
http://www.kvue.com/
http://austin.ynn.com/

If your folks need some help let us know.

Bob Kramer
Volente, TX

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch 
excellence.
Vince Lombardi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RACER BUD" <budscars at comcast.net>
To: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com>; "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


> thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop 
> area..the horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for 
> me to find out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3 
> hours ago..they live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to 
> go if evacuated.....
> it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
> Thanks
> Racer Bud
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com>
> To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
> Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
>
>
>> Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
>>
>> http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
>> tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
>>
>> Kevin, Colo.
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Mon Sep  5 11:57:08 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:57:08 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
	<A015507B320545E68E8A189422CCB0D6@latitudefb1e41>
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
	<A015507B320545E68E8A189422CCB0D6@latitudefb1e41>
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds17C4FAF8AE352A9C4D9BFEB71D0@phx.gbl>

Took me awhile, seems this site is used by all U.S. Incident Management Teams
& their command H.Q.'s .
I see it's based out of SLC, Utah.

http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/index.php<http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/ind
ex.php>

Kevin




----- Original Message -----
  From: Bob Kramer<mailto:rkramer3 at austin.rr.com>
  To: RACER BUD<mailto:budscars at comcast.net> ; KEVIN
LYNCH<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com> ; FOT<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


  Lakway isn't far from the Steiner Ranch fire but I think the north wind will
  keep them out of the path. Volente is just a few miles north of the fire and
  Lakeway is to our west. We should be fine but if you want to keep up with
  the fires here's a couple of local news links:
  http://www.kxan.com/<http://www.kxan.com/>
  http://www.kvue.com/<http://www.kvue.com/>
  http://austin.ynn.com/<http://austin.ynn.com/>

  If your folks need some help let us know.

  Bob Kramer
  Volente, TX

  Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch
  excellence.
  Vince Lombardi
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "RACER BUD" <budscars at comcast.net<mailto:budscars at comcast.net>>
  To: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>>; "FOT"
<fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


  > thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop
  > area..the horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for
  > me to find out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3
  > hours ago..they live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to
  > go if evacuated.....
  > it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
  > Thanks
  > Racer Bud
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>>
  > To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
  > Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
  >
  >
  >> Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
  >>
  >>
http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
<http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/%3
Cht>
  >>
tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
  >>
  >> Kevin, Colo.
  >> _______________________________________________
  >> fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Sep  6 07:32:38 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:32:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
Message-ID: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>

http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
ctsheet.html 

.

From ac at camoletti.ch  Tue Sep  6 08:06:29 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:06:29 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>

Somebody asked the price?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de Paul MacDonald
Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33
@ : Fot
Objet : [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
ctsheet.html

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Sep  6 10:06:41 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:06:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
	<002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>

Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

Somebody asked the price?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
[Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
ctsheet.html

.
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Sep  6 10:18:41 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:18:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
	<002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
	<000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <000701cc6cb0$a4a01420$ede03c60$@rogers.com>

Also, this is not the car which is owned by Bill Warner

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Paul MacDonald
Sent: September 6, 2011 12:07 PM
To: 'Alexandre Camoletti'; 'Fot'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.

Paul

From koblinger at verizon.net  Tue Sep  6 10:43:04 2011
From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:43:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
	<002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
	<000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <4E664D98.3000304@verizon.net>

I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.

Cheers,
Kurt O.

On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>
> Somebody asked the price?
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>
> http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
> ctsheet.html
>
> .
>
> =======

From horizonracing at msn.com  Tue Sep  6 11:50:09 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony & Annie Garmey)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:50:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>

I,m not :)

Kurt Oblinger <koblinger at verizon.net> wrote:

>I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.
>
>Cheers,
>Kurt O.
>
>On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
>> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
>> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
>> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
>> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>
>> Somebody asked the price?
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
>> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
>> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>
>> http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
>> ctsheet.html
>>
>> .
>>
>> =======
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From kaskas at cox.net  Tue Sep  6 13:30:59 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:30:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W164AB2569171688AA59800DF1C0@phx.gbl>

Seeing car in it's present condition makes me think that 10 times that amount
would not be enough to bring it to its present state. Greart job Tony and
thanks to the Hart folks.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:50:09 -0700
> From: horizonracing at msn.com
> To: koblinger at verizon.net; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>
> I,m not :)
>
> Kurt Oblinger <koblinger at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kurt O.
> >
> >On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
> >> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
> >> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
> >> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
> >> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
> >>
> >> Somebody asked the price?
> >>
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De
la
> >> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot
Objet :
> >> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
> >>
> >>
http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
> >> ctsheet.html
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> =======
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 14:22:45 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:22:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
Message-ID: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>

Amici...

Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?  
Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.

Bill Dentinger

From billb at bnj.com  Tue Sep  6 15:01:40 2011
From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:01:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <76514339-99D8-49C0-914F-11CE81E17AF9@bnj.com>

UmmmQuaife..as in Dog Box.

On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:

> Amici...
>
> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Sep  6 15:17:59 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:17:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <76514339-99D8-49C0-914F-11CE81E17AF9@bnj.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
	<76514339-99D8-49C0-914F-11CE81E17AF9@bnj.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109061717290.17579@isis.mit.edu>

On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Bill Babcock wrote:

> UmmmQuaife..as in Dog Box.

LIKE!!

rml
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From garygret at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep  6 17:03:41 2011
From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:03:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1315350221.23030.YahooMailRC@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bill,
John Esposito at Quantum Mechanics www.quantumechanics.com/ had decent synchros 
made a few years back, ISTR from the original petroglyphs of the ancient 
scribes. I've had them for a couple (short) seasons with no crunching. When 
rotated by hand on the cones they had noticeably more friction at less 
engagement depth than the Moss, TRFs or VicBrits I bought for comparison at the 
time, which seemed to go all the way onto the taper without much grab.

He also has steel bushings to replace the fragile tophats.

Regards,
Gary Schneider




________________________________
From: "BillDentin at aol.com" <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, September 6, 2011 3:22:45 PM
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...

Amici...

Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?  
Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________

From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Tue Sep  6 17:16:48 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:16:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000301cc6ceb$0e46b110$2ad41330$@com>

Contact Steve Yott at Silver Lake Triumphs in Silver Lake, Wisconsin. His
e-mail address is tr4 at wi.rr.com.


Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of BillDentin at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:23 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...

Amici...

Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?  
Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.

Bill Dentinger
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From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Tue Sep  6 19:14:26 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:14:26 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E66C572.4060604@blacksburg.net>

On 9/6/2011 4:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
> Amici...
>
> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>
>    
Bill, I bought a set from BFE a few years back, which have much more 
"grab" at less engagement than the usual culprits.  In fact, I had to 
lap them in slightly to make the gbx shift easier.  In short, spendy 
parts but well worth the $.

j

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go

From koblinger at verizon.net  Tue Sep  6 20:34:26 2011
From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:34:26 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E66D832.4050901@verizon.net>

Touche'

The TR250K has certainly found a good home. It's well cared for and 
exercised regularly for all of us to enjoy. But, hey! A guy can still dream!

Cheers,
Kurt O.

On 9/6/2011 10:50 AM, Tony & Annie Garmey wrote:
> I,m not :)
>
> Kurt Oblinger<koblinger at verizon.net>  wrote:
>
>> I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kurt O.
>>
>> On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
>>> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
>>> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
>>> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
>>> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>>
>>> Somebody asked the price?
>>>
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
>>> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
>>> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>>
>>> http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
>>> ctsheet.html
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> =======

From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com  Tue Sep  6 20:41:07 2011
From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:41:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com> <4E66C572.4060604@blacksburg.net>
Message-ID: <37CAB7500DBF4D1AB3B20E4EF983CA05@latitudefb1e41>

I bought some from Cambridge or Racetoratons a few years ago. They were made 
in Germany and were high quality and high dollar.

Don't forget to look through your spares for good, used OEM ones. The 
grooves on the inside cone are as important as the teeth.I've been able to 
put together a couple of good sets and in use they have worked better than 
the new ones the big three sell.

Bob Kramer
Volente, TX

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch 
excellence.
Vince Lombardi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.C. Hassall" <jhassall at blacksburg.net>
To: <BillDentin at aol.com>
Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny synchros...


> On 9/6/2011 4:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>> Amici...
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
>> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>>
>>
> Bill, I bought a set from BFE a few years back, which have much more 
> "grab" at less engagement than the usual culprits.  In fact, I had to lap 
> them in slightly to make the gbx shift easier.  In short, spendy parts but 
> well worth the $.
>
> j
>
> -- 
> Jim Hassall
> Blacksburg VA
> '63 TR4 in autox preparation
> 99% finished, 90% to go
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Wed Sep  7 17:07:52 2011
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:07:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <37CAB7500DBF4D1AB3B20E4EF983CA05@latitudefb1e41>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com> <4E66C572.4060604@blacksburg.net>
	<37CAB7500DBF4D1AB3B20E4EF983CA05@latitudefb1e41>
Message-ID: <4E67F948.5050705@pobox.com>

Don't throw away good OEM synchros.  I have rebuilt several trannies for 
local club members (Green Country Triumphs).  Most guys want new 
synchros, so if their old ones were still good, guess where they ended 
up (this was my only payment)?  The worst I've seen are the ones from 
Vicky Brit, the others seem comparable. I have found NOS on ebay.  I 
have not tried UK sources, BFE or Quantum.

The "don't throw away" advice also applies to other parts, e.g. OEM 
valve lifters.  It seems that the older the car, the more iffy the 
replacement parts become.
Larry

On 9/6/2011 9:41 PM, Bob Kramer wrote:
> I bought some from Cambridge or Racetoratons a few years ago. They 
> were made in Germany and were high quality and high dollar.
>
> Don't forget to look through your spares for good, used OEM ones. The 
> grooves on the inside cone are as important as the teeth.I've been 
> able to put together a couple of good sets and in use they have worked 
> better than the new ones the big three sell.
>
> Bob Kramer
> Volente, TX
>
> Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch 
> excellence.
> Vince Lombardi
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.C. Hassall" 
> <jhassall at blacksburg.net>
> To: <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
>
>
>> On 9/6/2011 4:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>>> Amici...
>>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
>>> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>> Bill, I bought a set from BFE a few years back, which have much more 
>> "grab" at less engagement than the usual culprits.  In fact, I had to 
>> lap them in slightly to make the gbx shift easier.  In short, spendy 
>> parts but well worth the $.
>>
>> j
>>
>> -- 
>> Jim Hassall
>> Blacksburg VA
>> '63 TR4 in autox preparation
>> 99% finished, 90% to go
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From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep  8 11:06:07 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:06:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Attention Midwest Triumph Racers!
Message-ID: <CALCydYoBk7kareiWxD3KGJ5X3XkqO4coOJOYrWsHNxJByDJk9w@mail.gmail.com>

Amici...
Greetings from Friendly Ghost Racing!

My Club is hosting a Midwestern Council event at Autobahn Country Club on
October 1-2, in Joliet IL. I am Chairperson for this event.
Saturday is a HSAX and Sunday is a Race.
Reasonable cost for racing or autosrossing at this somewhat exclusive and
beautiful facility. The racing is on the south track and is well suited for
any Triumph.
Anyone interested in Racing or Autocrossing, Email me and I will forward
entry information.
All Vintage and Club Racing sanctioning body members are welcome!
Vintage and Production classes for Racing.
Numerous High Speed Autocross Classes.

I will be awarding a special "Fastest Triumph Award" for any autocross or
racing entry.

Please consider attending this event.... My cooler is always full!

THANK YOU
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
FOT, MCSCC, NSSCC

From N197TR4 at cs.com  Fri Sep  9 08:10:41 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:10:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>

FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.

Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some very close and competitive racing among our 
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>

From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 14:17:15 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:17:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing National Chumpionship 25.5 hr. race report...
Message-ID: <1315599435.33627.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

We came, we raced...we did well...for a while.  This was the "National
Chumpionship" at Iowa Speedway, Newton IA.
 
Friday, Sept. 2 (practice):
Unfortunately, the initial trend (one of the first cars through the gate, one
of the first cars through tech, one of the first cars on the track for
testing) did not continue  

Spent most of the test time getting tire
pressures right and convincing me, who had never driven on an oval, that it
was ok to push through the turns. It was great seeing most teams for the first
time (and others again!) that we had seen on the forums and race reports but
not in person. Lacey2 seemed to settle in nicely, albeit rather slowly, to the
oval and our team coach managed to get my oval lap times down by 4 seconds by
the time we were done. The road course (the race alternated between the road
course and the oval with switchovers during caution periods...) was pretty
straightforward and fun...it was neat being able to outbrake anyone else on
the track!  Ate a nice team meal and got a little sleep.

Saturday, Sept. 3
(13 hours):

Rain! Rain is good! When you have an underpowered but
good-handling car, rain was a plus. We hadn't run in real rain yet (eat your
heart out Midwestern folks) as the Southeast ChumpCar races have been
surprisingly clear. We found that we could run with anyone on the road course
(getting passed on the oval turn and making it up in the infield) and had a
grand time battling with cars that ended up finishing much better than we did.
Ended up in 6th-10th (out of 47 cars) most of the time and were 7th at the end
of day 1. Surprised a LOT of people...running against BMW E30's, E36's,
Toyotas, Mazdas (Miata & RX7's), Hondas, etc...One of our drivers had a
terrific duel with a Toyota FX16 towards the end of the day that took out a
headlight (racing incident, no foul) but they both came in with big wide grins
on their faces.  Went over the car, fixed a few things, picked up another
battery at a 24 hour Walmart.  Got to sleep around 2:30 am.

Sunday, Sept 4
(12.5 hours):

All WAS well...until a half-shaft decided to break inside the
rear hub, RH side. One of the winning BMW E30 team members reported we hit an
altitude of over 4 feet as we careened off the track on top of some tire
barriers right after the hairpin. We needed to replace the wheel, drum,
brakes, backing plate, hub, halfshaft and trailing arm (ugh!). Iowa Speedway
tow truck was kind enough to hoist the TR6 into the garage and stayed until we
could get a jack stand under it! Kudos!!!! According to chumpstaff we got the
car back out in less than 40 minutes...haven't verified that through MyLaps
yet but I know it was quick. Had all the parts ready to go thanks to Jack
McGahey but that's still a lot of fasteners to get right. After that, things
continued to go downhill as we broke a third stock TR6 wheel (gonna buy some
real wheels before Sebring) and a wheel stud...and then the rack decided to
stop turning right. Unfortunately, we were on the road course at
 the time! After repairing all the above and replacing the rack, we were out
again, only to run out of fuel due to a miscalculation with 10 minutes to
go....at the other end of pit road from where we were pitted!

A Porsche
team was VERY kind to give us fuel, fire extinguisher, gloves, helmet to one
of our guys still in his suit so we could refuel at the other end of pit
road...nice example of the spirit of ChumpCar!!!!  We ended up 18th out of 47.
Had a great time, happy to meet folks, looking forward to 14 more hours at
Sebring on September 24th!    C'mon out and join us as we will continue to
wave the Triumph (and hopefully FOT if it gets here in time) flag at another
endurance race!
 
Pictures at http://riffrafracing.blogspot.com
 
Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader, RiffRAF Racing
'75 TR6 ChumpCar

From rjohns at woh.rr.com  Sat Sep 10 20:35:27 2011
From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:35:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchos ( Bob Johns)
Message-ID: <0919F1323A90476D8F051AE29728FF9F@Bucktailus>

I read with interest the conversation about obtaining and / or salvaging
syncho rings.  Some of you know that I was at the Triumph Register
International gathering at Harrogate, England in July. There were several
vendors there selling TR parts. One in particular catch my attention.  He was
a older fellow that had worked for Standard in Coventry. His name is Dave
Gleed ( Coventry Classics).  He had a treasure throve of original parts.  Two
items in particular amazed me. There was a nice bunch of new syncro rings
laying there to be had. I picked up some and showed them to a friend and said:
How amazing, as I had seen the time I could have used some of them.
The other item of particular interest was original thermostats with the bypass
shut off sleeve. I know there has been conversation about obtaining them of
our FOT chat line.   In case someone wants to contact him, his mail address
is, as he has no web site or email:

Dave Gleed
Coventry Classics
16 Aldbury Rise
Allesley Park
Coventry CV5  9JP
Great Britain

From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 11 17:02:39 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:02:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)
Message-ID: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have an oil leak out of my Purolator oil pressur regulator.  The seal I
referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have any thoughts on
fixing this leak?
 
Mike Mehl #46 TR5

From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sun Sep 11 17:30:04 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:30:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)
In-Reply-To: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>

>  The seal I
> referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have 
> any thoughts on
> fixing this leak?

TRF shows P/N 500328 in stock.

-- Randall  

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Sep 12 11:50:57 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:50:57 +0200
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
Message-ID: <002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>

FOT

Kas and Peggy were here at the Ring and pleased the crowd with their
attendance.
He was very asked for autographs and telling stories, even a TV team did
interview him and the track speaker took him to the control tower to do some
comments about CanAm cars which were on the track at that very moment.

A number of his current book was sold out in about 3 hours, all signed.

I dared to take Peggy and Kas around the track with the race car.
I know I know....how could I do this to take these treasured people on the
track but the speed was medium fast as it was very wet.
Once the cars rear escaped when Peggy was onboard when we left Karussel but
it made a big smile on her face which I saw on her face at the center
mirror.

Kas comment about the track was short: AMAZING!

All people were amazed about his very interesting comments about car
technique.

He did also made the price giving.
BTW...the Kastner Cup was given to Mario Neumann who won the Triumph
Competition overall.
He had the best tactic....driving fast but not too fast while the others
were to inconsistent with their driving in a 3H race.

http://tr-register.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=982
http://youtu.be/PANRTnMoe5c


He'll fly back tomorrow and will speak up shortly I guess.


Cheers
Chris




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Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:11
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.

Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some very close and competitive racing among our
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are getting very GLOBAL

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From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 12 12:17:00 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
	<002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
Message-ID: <1315851420.13504.YahooMailRC@web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Chris,
  This sounds excellent.  Thank you to you and to all who hosted Kas &
Peg.  It 
sounds like they should have had a wonderful time.  and thats what
its all about 
....
 
Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire
________________________________
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, September 12, 2011 12:50:57 PM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Kas and Peggy were here
at the Ring and pleased the crowd with their
attendance.
He was very asked for
autographs and telling stories, even a TV team did
interview him and the track
speaker took him to the control tower to do some
comments about CanAm cars
which were on the track at that very moment.

A number of his current book was
sold out in about 3 hours, all signed.

I dared to take Peggy and Kas around
the track with the race car.
I know I know....how could I do this to take
these treasured people on the
track but the speed was medium fast as it was
very wet.
Once the cars rear escaped when Peggy was onboard when we left
Karussel but
it made a big smile on her face which I saw on her face at the
center
mirror.

Kas comment about the track was short: AMAZING!

All people
were amazed about his very interesting comments about car
technique.

He did
also made the price giving.
BTW...the Kastner Cup was given to Mario Neumann
who won the Triumph
Competition overall.
He had the best tactic....driving
fast but not too fast while the others
were to inconsistent with their driving
in a 3H race.

http://tr-register.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=982
http://youtu.be/PANRTnMoe5c


He'll fly back tomorrow and will speak up
shortly I guess.


Cheers
Chris




-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von:
fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von
N197TR4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:11
An:
fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.
Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive
reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some
very close and competitive racing among our
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are
getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>
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From tr4.tony at virgin.net  Tue Sep 13 13:30:54 2011
From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (Tony Sheach)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:30:54 +0100
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
	<002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
Message-ID: <004701cc724b$a7877d90$f69678b0$@virgin.net>

Great people out there in Germany .... really, very special bunch.

I just got home and parked 3VC in the garage after a rapid dash back from
Germany, through Belgium and northern France. What a weekend ! even managed
to find all the speed traps on the E40 and stay out of their way all the way
home.

And a very special thanks to Chris for all the hard work he put into making
this happen in Europe. No one else could have done this and it was a
pleasure to have his company and that of Kas and Peggy all weekend. Lots and
lots of laughs. Im sure the other guys from the UK will say the same but ill
leave that to them - and a big hurrah for Keith & Josh Files and Steve Hall
who took home a pot with their triple driven TR6.

Im still remembering the drive of my life, over a big fat Gin; first time in
round the Nordschliefe in my existence, in the pouring rain, sideways
mainly, with a rally car on 60 spoke wires and road tyres ...... now ill be
telling that story for a long time.

All the best, let us know when the Eagles land back in California.

Regards Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: 12 September 2011 18:51
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Kas and Peggy were here at the Ring and pleased the crowd with their
attendance.
He was very asked for autographs and telling stories, even a TV team did
interview him and the track speaker took him to the control tower to do some
comments about CanAm cars which were on the track at that very moment.

A number of his current book was sold out in about 3 hours, all signed.

I dared to take Peggy and Kas around the track with the race car.
I know I know....how could I do this to take these treasured people on the
track but the speed was medium fast as it was very wet.
Once the cars rear escaped when Peggy was onboard when we left Karussel but
it made a big smile on her face which I saw on her face at the center
mirror.

Kas comment about the track was short: AMAZING!

All people were amazed about his very interesting comments about car
technique.

He did also made the price giving.
BTW...the Kastner Cup was given to Mario Neumann who won the Triumph
Competition overall.
He had the best tactic....driving fast but not too fast while the others
were to inconsistent with their driving in a 3H race.

http://tr-register.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=982
http://youtu.be/PANRTnMoe5c


He'll fly back tomorrow and will speak up shortly I guess.


Cheers
Chris




-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:11
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.

Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some very close and competitive racing among our
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Mon Sep 12 19:20:45 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:20:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Flags
Message-ID: <70A29850-8432-4687-BD94-470597003593@aol.com>

Amici,
I just got back home and looked at the flags.   The design is BIGGER than I
exected!
I am starting to pack these suckers up and label them.

Thanks for everything

Christopher Bock
www.SeaCubeCo.com
SeaCubeCo at aol.com
(609) 319-4322

From trmarty at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 13 10:47:43 2011
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:47:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fire Suppression System
Message-ID: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>

Question for the experts out there.  As I am freshening up the spitfire I had
to pull out the fire bottle.  It is a halon bottle.  It has a few years on it
but shows fully charged.  Do these things need serviced or recertified after X
amount of years?  Or if fully charge they last indefinitely?

Thanks,

Marty

From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 13 11:37:14 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:37:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow
Message-ID: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>

Here is some in car footage from Sat, 9/10, Buttonwillow CA
outside temp 100
Camera: Contour GPS  (with duct tape over the mic hole)

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28970762

~Steve

From andre at gt6.ca  Tue Sep 13 12:57:28 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:57:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow
In-Reply-To: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
References: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CADr8x9Y2scySEjKg_4FCR-ku+wYeM5Dm-oAm5dZ98kXbFJx_GA@mail.gmail.com>

No kidding you guys got friendly at the start.

I've had a few of those my past race weekend.

1 with a very $$$ Lotus who missed a gear. We all skattered to avoid him...
Turn 4 into 5 at Mosport... Kinda exciting (Not really)

Nice track btw.

A.



On 13 September 2011 13:37, Steven Belfer <colordog.1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Here is some in car footage from Sat, 9/10, Buttonwillow CA
> outside temp 100
> Camera: Contour GPS  (with duct tape over the mic hole)
>
> http://vimeo.com/28971387
>
> http://vimeo.com/28971387
>
> http://vimeo.com/28970762
>
> ~Steve
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From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Sep 13 13:01:09 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:01:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow
In-Reply-To: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
References: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E489A7359D9A4BA582CF932F22C59444@Vista>

Adrian Newey would be horrified that you have the kill switch pointed
against air flow!  :)

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Steven Belfer
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:37 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net Triumph
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow

Here is some in car footage from Sat, 9/10, Buttonwillow CA
outside temp 100
Camera: Contour GPS  (with duct tape over the mic hole)

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28970762

~Steve
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 13 13:15:46 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:15:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fire Suppression System
In-Reply-To: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CALCydYrfznMzF9XuGwjUr1naD_JkoScvV9aiQtxzTG47EnoQJg@mail.gmail.com>

Most likely it is still o.k. but to be sure, you can't go by the gauge. It
is my understanding that since it is a liquid (which is released as a gas)
it's content is measured by weight. I took mine to Pegasus last year and
they weighed it and checked the spec weight of the bottle. It is the weight
of the liquid that is important. Mine was probably older than yours and
checked out fine. Halon keeps working a lot longer than newer type systems
(FE-36 and AFFF) but is higher in toxicity and hard to clean up. It cannot
be refilled like the newer systems. So if it is not the proper weight, you
have to replace the whole bottle. In which case it would probably be best to
change to a AFFF or FE-36 bottle that fits your old set-up. Maybe If you
contact PegasusAuto Racing Supplies (they are an authorized fire system
center), they would give you the total weight that your bottle AND liquid
should be. Then you could weigh it yourself.

Not an expert but did do some research on this last year.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Question for the experts out there.  As I am freshening up the spitfire I
> had
> to pull out the fire bottle.  It is a halon bottle.  It has a few years on
> it
> but shows fully charged.  Do these things need serviced or recertified
> after X
> amount of years?  Or if fully charge they last indefinitely?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marty
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Sep 13 22:44:10 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:44:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR-7 on Craigslist
Message-ID: <20110914044431.32B8B18764F@autox.team.net>

http://quadcities.craigslist.org/cto/2586425928.html
1979 TR-7, original owner, $4900
NFI

Tony Drews

From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 14 07:12:45 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:12:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] I know some of you have used 280ZX wheels...
Message-ID: <1316005965.53183.YahooMailNeo@web114705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

What did you use for lug nuts?
 
Thanks!

From sgroh1 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 14 08:33:30 2011
From: sgroh1 at comcast.net (Steven Groh)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:33:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Message-ID: <393729552.2582465.1316010810620.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed83.prod>

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- Steven

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From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 08:52:07 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:52:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire workshop manual
Message-ID: <d4b3.462b6879.3ba21997@aol.com>

I have an extra Haynes manual for Spits 1962-1978. If anyone NEEDS one and  
doesn't have one, you can have this one FREE if you pay the  postage...rick

From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 10:16:18 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:16:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] (no subject)
Message-ID: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>


From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 12:22:01 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:22:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Don Marshall
Message-ID: <26f4f.e0ec28b.3ba24ac5@aol.com>

Don Marshall, pls get back to me off line if you still want the manual, or  
it will go to the second responder....thanks, rick

From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Wed Sep 14 15:30:34 2011
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:30:34 +0100
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com><002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
	<004701cc724b$a7877d90$f69678b0$@virgin.net> 
Message-ID: <6F20BCC938E5468C801FF703049F383C@homekeith>

What more is there to say, we arrived back yesterday evening with the
broadest grins you could imagine. This was a magnificent event and I take my
hat off to Chris for pulling this all together; a great job Chris.

Kas and Peg amaze me, a 26 hour trip from the US and yet they looked as
fresh as anything and were involved in everything from the word go; you guys
are real heroes to us.

Josh, Steve and me had a great time in the car, the car ran brilliantly
throughout other than a slight lack of brakes after 2 hours and we came home
with a pot and stories to tell.

We will be back again I am sure.

Thanks again to Chris and the German TR group for making us all so welcome
and making it a memorable event.

Keith. 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Sheach
Sent: 13 September 2011 20:31
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

Great people out there in Germany .... really, very special bunch.

I just got home and parked 3VC in the garage after a rapid dash back from
Germany, through Belgium and northern France. What a weekend ! even managed
to find all the speed traps on the E40 and stay out of their way all the way
home.

And a very special thanks to Chris for all the hard work he put into making
this happen in Europe. No one else could have done this and it was a
pleasure to have his company and that of Kas and Peggy all weekend. Lots and
lots of laughs. Im sure the other guys from the UK will say the same but ill
leave that to them - and a big hurrah for Keith & Josh Files and Steve Hall
who took home a pot with their triple driven TR6.

Im still remembering the drive of my life, over a big fat Gin; first time in
round the Nordschliefe in my existence, in the pouring rain, sideways
mainly, with a rally car on 60 spoke wires and road tyres ...... now ill be
telling that story for a long time.

All the best, let us know when the Eagles land back in California.

Regards Tony

From rjohns at woh.rr.com  Wed Sep 14 15:58:18 2011
From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:58:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Fot Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12
Message-ID: <C5E8B0942959449DBE8C5B8DFD4622B9@Bucktailus>

Did you not get this previously?  I got an error message, So maybe you did 
not. I hope you get it now.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Johns" <rjohns at woh.rr.com>
To: "FOT team" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:08 PM
Subject: Fw: Fot Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12


> FOT team
> Just got this note and great photo of Kas and Peg, along with my very good
> friend, David Somerville, relaxing at the Ring.  Note that Kas can relax 
> and
> not even have a stop watch in his hand, or even in sight.
> David is an interesting fellow.  Has a TR2, a TR4 with Webers, a very 
> quick TR8,  and a Porsche  Carrera 4S.  I rode extensively in the TR8 and 
> the Porsche on that trip to
> Harrogate, TR international.
> Bob Johns
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Somerville" <trguru at btinternet.com>
> To: "Robert Johns" <rjohns at woh.rr.com>
> Cc: "Jeff Kelley" <jeffreykelley at charter.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Fot Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12
>
>
>> Bob   ,
>>
>>
>> just    back  from  a  tour  round  the  Eifel  mountains    .
>>
>> Met   this  American   couple  on  their  vacation   ,    weather    in
>> Germany    not  as   good   as  when  you   came  over to  England   . 
>> A
>> bit  wet   ,  no  correction  very  wet   .   But   they  both  enjoyed
>> themselves    ,   both  having  a drive   round  the  Nordschliefe   with
>> a
>> crazy  German  driver  in  the   wet   .
>>
>>
>>
>> all the  best  David

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC_kas-0663.JPG]

From billdentin at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 18:23:15 2011
From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:23:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Message-ID: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Sep 14 20:57:53 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:57:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE416A6586F560-12F8-4792C@webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com>

We plan to make an Alexander Family Weekend of it. I might even bring the
Ambro.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: billdentin <billdentin at aol.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 9:38 pm
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...


Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
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From malaboge at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 22:49:38 2011
From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:49:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] "Foreign" Car Parts...
Message-ID: <8CE417A024072C8-8F4-2E1FA@webmail-d014.sysops.aol.com>

Yeah I know this is a bit off topic, but here I go anyway...

I need the rear wheel hub oil slinger that bolts to the backside of the rear
wheel hub flange...and the four Phillips head screws that hold it on, from
either a Datsun 510 or 240Z...at least its gonna go on a British car...

Anybody got one kickin around? I somehow got a set of rear axles with one
missing.  I'm not sure but I think the 260/280 units may be bigger (I know the
actual shafts are...ask me how I know).

Unscrupulous modifiers r us...
Nick in Nor Cal

From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Sep 14 23:48:06 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:48:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110915054826.20107187654@autox.team.net>

If the weather is forecast to be acceptable, I'll be there, and will 
be glad to pitch in.  I can even pick up the blue cheese.

Tony Drews

At 07:23 PM 9/14/2011, billdentin at aol.com wrote:
>Amici...
>
>My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
>of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
>I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
>But before I do, I thought I would double check.
>
>Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
>Scott?, Dennis?
>Tony?  Jason?  Any one?
>
>Bill Dentinger
>_______________________________________________
>fot at autox.team.net
>
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>
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Sep 14 23:51:26 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:51:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1316065911.14598.fot@autox.team.net>

Bill, I'm sorry but if you miss this event, we are going to have to revoke your FOT membership.
I will be racing there for sure. And honestly, you can count on me for any help you may need. I'm the master of staying up all night fixing and preping these cars. I'll even have my girls wash and wax your car to a choice FGR shine before every session. Wine and cheese, done, equipment Check, fine. Spares package, no problem... Actually, bring your own spares; my stuff is just about used up. No worries, make it happen! This event needs your charm and good humor. Besides, if you don't make it who are all those beautiful women going to root for and shower with Champagne? 
I have all the tools and all the beer to overcome a weekend of racing at Blackhawk Farms. Register now!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
------Original Message------
From: billdentin at aol.com
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Sent: Sep 14, 2011 7:23 PM

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 15 02:11:43 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:11:43 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>

The first part is entertaining:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo

Cheers
Chris

From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu Sep 15 04:00:22 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:00:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C74026844F8@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I plan to be there.  You need someone to take the garage next to you?

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed Sep 14 19:23:15 2011
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________
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From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 15 06:21:30 2011
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1316089290.99338.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Bill:
 
If you need anything let me know.
 
Ernie

--- On Wed, 9/14/11, billdentin at aol.com <billdentin at aol.com> wrote:


From: billdentin at aol.com <billdentin at aol.com>
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 7:23 PM


Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________
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From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 15 07:43:43 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:43:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <20110915072006.A4073187930@autox.team.net>
References: <20110915072006.A4073187930@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1316094223.60066.YahooMailRC@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

SECOND!!!!
 
Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4
white spitfire




________________________________
From:
"jason at multivintage.com" <jason at multivintage.com>
To: billdentin at aol.com;
fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011
12:51:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...

Bill,
I'm sorry but if you miss this event, we are going to have to revoke your 
FOT
membership.
I will be racing there for sure. And honestly, you can count on me
for any help 
you may need. I'm the master of staying up all night fixing and
preping these 
cars. I'll even have my girls wash and wax your car to a choice
FGR shine before 
every session. Wine and cheese, done, equipment Check, fine.
Spares package, no 
problem... Actually, bring your own spares; my stuff is
just about used up. No 
worries, make it happen! This event needs your charm
and good humor. Besides, if 
you don't make it who are all those beautiful
women going to root for and shower 
with Champagne? 

I have all the tools and
all the beer to overcome a weekend of racing at 
Blackhawk Farms. Register
now!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
------Original Message------
From:
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Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Sent: Sep 14, 2011 7:23
PM

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family
the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is
unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined
to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans
to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?,
Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Thu Sep 15 11:18:13 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:18:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] OK Then...
Message-ID: <14f34.3739d683.3ba38d55@aol.com>

Amici...

OK then!  The Beady Eye VINTAGE TRIUMPH Racing Team (in all its Glory, 
albeit lite) will enter THAT LOOOONG RACE event at Blackhawk Farms Raceway on 
October 29th and 30th, 2011.

Bill (Damdinger)

From atr6racer at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 15 15:19:13 2011
From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:19:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Race car
Message-ID: <SNT136-W15BBF5AFF95BFB3B850FEDF9070@phx.gbl>

I am looking for a Vintage TR6 race car for a friend to purchase. Would like a
complete car, but will look at roller's also. I'm in Ohio. Please contact me
at:

Sam Halkias
atr6racer at hotmail.com
614-582-0232

Thanks,

Sam

From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 15 18:22:51 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:22:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
Message-ID: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today!  They are GORGEOUS,
Chris!!!!!

We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled track
:-)

Thanks, Chris!!!!!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader
RiffRAF Racing
'75 TR6
"Lacey2"

From igofaster at att.net  Thu Sep 15 18:48:44 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>
Message-ID: <1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

damn.. I just thought I was a race car driver...  dude....  200kph? what is that 
120mph? shit...  I just hope to hit 100 mph at a second or two...   THIS is real 
driving. Not a memorized set of turns that most of us know... I commend you ! 
YOU are a driver. It's not about the memory of preset turns we all know, it's 
this skill, balls, bravery (wait , does that go together?) and ability with you 
and your machine that blows me away with this video. I think the word 'road 
racing' is tossed around very generically now as far as I know. THIS was a 
road... heck I haven't even finished watching the first lap and I'm blown away. 
What is the course, 50k ? 


coolest in car video I've ever seen...   MadMax fan club.........    Bobby 
Whitehead


________________________________
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 3:11:43 AM
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74

The first part is entertaining:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo

Cheers
Chris
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Sep 15 21:14:15 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:14:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <990098195.697556.1316142855932.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Chris is indeed a great driver and I love the adjusting of the mirror around 200kph, like no prob dudes. 



Thanks for sharing the vid Chris, the tracks in Europe are spectacular. 


Dave H. 
SC,Ca. 

From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 06:53:39 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:53:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B636D760-5C88-4F04-8676-EE5B2DBE845A@aol.com>

Your flags were the first to be sent. The rest went out yesterday and the non
US flags are going today.

I am glad you like them.

Chris

On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today!  They are GORGEOUS,
> Chris!!!!!
>
> We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
> think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled
track
> :-)
>
> Thanks, Chris!!!!!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF Racing
> '75 TR6
> "Lacey2"
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Sep 16 07:02:07 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:02:07 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109160829190.27391@isis.mit.edu>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109160829190.27391@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <000001cc7470$e060a110$a121e330$@com>

Thank you all for the compliments of my ride.

As it would be very boring to show a 3H in total I'm working on a short
version in which ALL overtaking is covered....

Maybe finished this weekend.

Cheers
Chris

From kaskas at cox.net  Fri Sep 16 07:54:18 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:54:18 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>,
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>,
	<1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W27540465FE7B4C5BF57594DF060@phx.gbl>

Glad to see the opinion of my friend Cristian Marx.  I was up in the woods by
the track taking split times.  In a 8 second section only two cars were in the
5 second range, a fellow in a Porsche 935 and Chris Marx in his TR-4.  Take
that for pretty tough driver.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:44 -0700
> From: igofaster at att.net
> To: tr4racing at googlemail.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> damn.. I just thought I was a race car driver...  dude....  200kph? what is
that
> 120mph? shit...  I just hope to hit 100 mph at a second or two...   THIS is
real
> driving. Not a memorized set of turns that most of us know... I commend you
!
> YOU are a driver. It's not about the memory of preset turns we all know,
it's
> this skill, balls, bravery (wait , does that go together?) and ability with
you
> and your machine that blows me away with this video. I think the word 'road
> racing' is tossed around very generically now as far as I know. THIS was a
> road... heck I haven't even finished watching the first lap and I'm blown
away.
> What is the course, 50k ?
>
>
> coolest in car video I've ever seen...   MadMax fan club.........    Bobby
> Whitehead
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 3:11:43 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> The first part is entertaining:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Sep 16 08:04:11 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:04:11 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <SNT120-W27540465FE7B4C5BF57594DF060@phx.gbl>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>,
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>,
	<1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT120-W27540465FE7B4C5BF57594DF060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000701cc7479$847a1580$8d6e4080$@com>

Hmm.It is not very special.

If you get into the flow then it is more like your square dance.you
announce where to go with a little song and rhythm.

Sing: corner left, the rear goes wide, turn the wheel and all be right

Something like that J



Cheers

Chris





Von: hotmail_b17abf0a244adefd at live.com
[mailto:hotmail_b17abf0a244adefd at live.com] Im Auftrag von Kas Kastner
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. September 2011 15:54
An: igofaster at att.net; MadMarx
Cc: fot
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74



Glad to see the opinion of my friend Cristian Marx.  I was up in the woods
by the track taking split times.  In a 8 second section only two cars were
in the 5 second range, a fellow in a Porsche 935 and Chris Marx in his TR-4.
Take that for pretty tough driver.

Never be beaten by equipment


> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:44 -0700
> From: igofaster at att.net
> To: tr4racing at googlemail.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> damn.. I just thought I was a race car driver... dude.... 200kph? what is
that
> 120mph? shit... I just hope to hit 100 mph at a second or two... THIS is
real
> driving. Not a memorized set of turns that most of us know... I commend
you !
> YOU are a driver. It's not about the memory of preset turns we all know,
it's
> this skill, balls, bravery (wait , does that go together?) and ability
with you
> and your machine that blows me away with this video. I think the word
'road
> racing' is tossed around very generically now as far as I know. THIS was a

> road... heck I haven't even finished watching the first lap and I'm blown
away.
> What is the course, 50k ?
>
>
> coolest in car video I've ever seen... MadMax fan club......... Bobby
> Whitehead
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 3:11:43 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> The first part is entertaining:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Sep 16 08:56:49 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:56:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <B636D760-5C88-4F04-8676-EE5B2DBE845A@aol.com>
References: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<B636D760-5C88-4F04-8676-EE5B2DBE845A@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4297FEFAE4EB-CC8-120C0@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>

THANKS!   ONCE AGAIN.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] WOW!!! Flags are COOL!!!!!


Your flags were the first to be sent. The rest went out yesterday and the non
S flags are going today.
I am glad you like them.
Chris
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today!  They are GORGEOUS,
 Chris!!!!!

 We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
 think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled
rack
 :-)

 Thanks, Chris!!!!!

 Jamie Palmer
 Squadron Leader
 RiffRAF Racing
 '75 TR6
 "Lacey2"
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Fri Sep 16 09:45:27 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:45:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source
Message-ID: <788293966.574247.1316187927218.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

FoT,
This outfit is offering billet TR4 cranks for $ 1,400.00 with an order of 10.
I can't consider it in the short term
but I would consider it after the 1st of the year.


jim g

http://www.maxspeedingrods.com/


B 
Yes, weB doB 4340 billet steel crank according to your sample. Our minimum
order is 10 units with each strokes at a time. We will make theB formal
blueprint for you to confirmB after receipt of 30% deposit. The cranks will
beB made in about 4-6 months after confirmed the blueprint. (normal in about
90 days, but now many orders on the schedule.) After we finished the whole
work and prepare shipping, the rest funds be paid before goods be shipped out.
B 
The price is about 1399USD/unit for 10B of 4-cyl cranksB at a time. We will
work out the accurate costB after checked the sample. Would you please send
any pictures of the crank at first.
B 
Any other questions, please feel free to let us know.
B 
Best regards
maxspeedingrods

From fpspitfire at comcast.net  Fri Sep 16 16:24:07 2011
From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (fpspitfire at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:24:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <8CE4297FEFAE4EB-CC8-120C0@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1710637724.715838.1316211847549.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

is it too late to get a flag...it will look nice next to the new rig

----- Original Message -----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
To: SeaCubeCo at aol.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, 16 September, 2011 10:56:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] WOW!!! B Flags are COOL!!!!!

THANKS! B  ONCE AGAIN.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] WOW!!! Flags are COOL!!!!!


Your flags were the first to be sent. The rest went out yesterday and the non
S flags are going today.
I am glad you like them.
Chris
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today! B They are GORGEOUS,
B Chris!!!!!

B We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
B think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled
rack
B :-)

B Thanks, Chris!!!!!

B Jamie Palmer
B Squadron Leader
B RiffRAF Racing
B '75 TR6
B "Lacey2"
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 21:31:18 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:31:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 Billet crank source
Message-ID: <1E2F7DBF-5E2F-479A-B395-32E84F57D5B4@aol.com>

Since the topic came up again, thought I'd send a note that Marine  
Crankshaft is going to make a small run of TR4 cranks. Not too late to  
join in if you need one for a winter rebuild:

"I have been working with Marine Crankshaft Inc. in Santa Ana, CA,, to  
pattern and produce a TR3/4 billet crankshaft. They are a very  
specialized high-performance crankshaft mfr. The goal was a better  
option on price and delivery, and an updated "5 main bearing" design  
like Crower and Racestoration's (http://www.racetorations.co.uk/page17.html 
). This has been achieved and then some with reduced weight. I have  
the initial unit now. I can send pictures if you are interested and  
contact me off-line.

For now, the owner has asked me to get word out that he welcomes  
additional orders from FOT racers, so here are the details:

$2300.00 includes plasma nitride hardening and dynamic no holes  
balancing.

Standard TR dimensions with aftermarket rear seal area at 2.525" (per  
Uncle Jack's Engine Building Tips). Call for charge to make original  
scroll seal flange.

Rear flange drilled to purchaser's spec at no charge

$100 charge to dimension for Non-standard con rods (i.e. Chevy, Honda)

Actual shipping charges for delivery

No sales tax on orders shipped out of CA (8.75% within CA)

50% Deposit required.

14 week delivery

Orders placed directly with David Eden at cacranks at yahoo.com. Mention  
"FoT Deal".

See www.marinecrankshaftinc.com for additional info."

John Frymark

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 18 07:22:47 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:22:47 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <0DE24370B1F2492B812123280908D098@gdhs.local>
References: <000001cc7470$e060a110$a121e330$@com>
	<0DE24370B1F2492B812123280908D098@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <000101cc7606$10984e00$31c8ea00$@com>

This is the whole race - for boring evenings:

http://youtu.be/7yd0SA1zEZk

Cheers
Chris

From spitlist at cox.net  Sun Sep 18 12:21:59 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:21:59 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <000101cc7606$10984e00$31c8ea00$@com>
References: <000001cc7470$e060a110$a121e330$@com><0DE24370B1F2492B812123280908D098@gdhs.local>
	<000101cc7606$10984e00$31c8ea00$@com>
Message-ID: <D9ECA602481E4C3D841772B6869F6AF9@Vista>

Nice!  But I am curious what that brief stop on the grass early in the race
was all about!

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:23 AM
To: 'fot'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74

This is the whole race - for boring evenings:

http://youtu.be/7yd0SA1zEZk

Cheers
Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 18 12:29:37 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:29:37 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
Message-ID: <mailman.8.1316370602.14598.fot@autox.team.net>

Simple:
The OD failed an it felt like if an axle broke or the engine seized.

I stopped the car to make sure that its nothing serious. Then a stop at the pits to try a repair.


------Originalnachricht------
Von: Joe Curry
An: 'MadMarx'
An: 'fot'
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
Gesendet: 18. Sep. 2011 20:21

Nice!  But I am curious what that brief stop on the grass early in the race
was all about!

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:23 AM
To: 'fot'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74

This is the whole race - for boring evenings:

http://youtu.be/7yd0SA1zEZk

Cheers
Chris
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From tylerpthompson at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 19:54:23 2011
From: tylerpthompson at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?dHlsZXJwdGhvbXBzb25AeWFob28uY29t?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:54:23 -0600
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?TR4_billet_crank_source?=
Message-ID: <493386.78835.qm@smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Are they made in USA?  English not so good.    

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

From EDENMA at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 22:46:28 2011
From: EDENMA at aol.com (EDENMA at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:46:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source
Message-ID: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>

yeh......I kinda doubt it.....but I am still interested in looking at  it.
 
 
In a message dated 9/18/2011 7:54:11 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
tylerpthompson at yahoo.com writes:

Are they  made in USA?  English not so good.    

Sent from my  Verizon Wireless 4GLTE  smartphone

From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Sep 19 05:11:45 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:11:45 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source
In-Reply-To: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>
References: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001301cc76bc$ebcbc130$c3634390$@camoletti.ch>

Maxspeedrod make their stuff in China. There were a few FOT email exchanges
already a few months ago about their TR4 con rods sold very cheap at 500 or
so.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de EDENMA at aol.com
Envoyi : lundi 19 septembre 2011 06:46
@ : tylerpthompson at yahoo.com; toodamnfunky at comcast.net; fot at autox.team.net
Objet : Re: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source

yeh......I kinda doubt it.....but I am still interested in looking at  it.


In a message dated 9/18/2011 7:54:11 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
tylerpthompson at yahoo.com writes:

Are they  made in USA?  English not so good.

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From gasket.works at verizon.net  Mon Sep 19 08:41:18 2011
From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:41:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR6  crankshafts
References: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007e01cc76da$315a2080$0701a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>

As of this am the TR6 Crankshaft order has four bonafide (money paid) orders 
and a fifth order likely this week. If you are interested in this group 
order contact me off-line.

m

M.N.Dunst
Gasket Works USA, LLC
www.Headgasket.com
626.358.1616 ph1
626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax

Triple R Munitions, Inc.
Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax
GMT-8 Pacific

From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon Sep 19 09:05:19 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:05:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] crankshafts...
References: <0LRM000E4CLMJA70@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net>
	<SNT136-W33488C2200E2EB9A1EC06AF9060@phx.gbl>
	<001301cc76da$878489a0$0701a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
Message-ID: <3F2C78F3690345D7A2096A68D7A8F3B1@Charly>

Yes, I emailed Ruth this A.M. and she replied and I'll be sending off funds
this afternoon.  Mine will allow another level of discount.
Sorry about the late response, been racing and kinda forgot.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: MORDY DUNST
  To: Sam Halkias ; Gt6steve at aol.com ; Charly Mitchel
  Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:43 AM
  Subject: crankshafts...


  I just spoke to Ruth at farndon.   We have four orders in and are awaiting a
few others...   I understand that Charly wanted to order one as well.....


  Mordy

  M.N.Dunst
  Gasket Works USA, LLC
  www.Headgasket.com
  626.358.1616 ph1
  626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
  626.628.3777 fax

  Triple R Munitions, Inc.
  Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
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    -----

From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Sep 19 09:10:55 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:10:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
Message-ID: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>

AMICI,
A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
family.
In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
be faster cars.
My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
and son moment" I will never forget!
THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
this possible.
A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing.

From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 13:23:41 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:23:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
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Nice job Jason

 

Craig

 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:11 AM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!

 

AMICI,

A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my

family.

In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.

After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of

coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!

The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should

be faster cars.

My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father

and son moment" I will never forget!

THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make

this possible.

A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.

Jason Ostrowski

Friendly Ghost Racing.

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From trdoctor at aol.com  Mon Sep 19 13:31:22 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:31:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
Message-ID: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>

YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.  That's
as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half price
which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?

Sam
Green Country Triumphs

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon Sep 19 14:02:57 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:02:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
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what it is about......

and another f/s team for atlanta....

thanks!






-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 2:16 pm
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!


AMICI,
 life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
amily.
n a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
fter many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
oming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
he rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
e faster cars.
y Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
nd son moment" I will never forget!
HANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
his possible.
 very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
ason Ostrowski
riendly Ghost Racing.
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Mon Sep 19 14:08:39 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:08:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
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Congratulations, Jason!!  I think you've earned it with all of your hard
work.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:11 AM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!

AMICI,
A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
family.
In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
be faster cars.
My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
and son moment" I will never forget!
THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
this possible.
A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing.
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From gp89 at charter.net  Mon Sep 19 15:14:09 2011
From: gp89 at charter.net (Jeff Senty)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:14:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
Message-ID: <45093902.4073a.1328389f638.Webtop.45@charter.net>

There is nothing sweeter than the first win. How grand to be able to 
share the moment with your dad. Congratulations !
Jeff Senty


On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> AMICI,
> A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and 
> my
> family.
> In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed 
> brilliantly.
> After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
> coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to 
> sweet!
> The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some 
> should
> be faster cars.
> My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional 
> "father
> and son moment" I will never forget!
> THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to 
> make
> this possible.
> A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing.
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>
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 19 15:38:25 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
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Congratulations.



----- Original Message ----
From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 11:10:55 AM
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!

AMICI,
A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
family.
In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
be faster cars.
My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
and son moment" I will never forget!
THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
this possible.
A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing.
_______________________________________________
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 15:54:39 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:54:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fire Suppression System
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	<CALCydYrfznMzF9XuGwjUr1naD_JkoScvV9aiQtxzTG47EnoQJg@mail.gmail.com>
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Halon for extinguishers is liquid gold -- expensive and much harder to obtain
these days. I think I read that it's no longer legal to manufacture it in the
USA.

It's the best for fire extinguishing.  I saw a live comparison of various
extinguishing agents and it is clearly superior.  1301 is less toxic than 1211
and either will displace oxygen in a confined area.

Info here: http://www.gulfwidesafety.com/gws/docs/NVIC_6-72_chapter6.pdf

The local fire extinguisher service company ought to be able to check it out
for you.  Whatever you do, don't vent it just to check -- you might not be
able to get it recharged.

Duncan


On Sep 13, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> Most likely it is still o.k. but to be sure, you can't go by the gauge. It
> is my understanding that since it is a liquid (which is released as a gas)
> it's content is measured by weight. I took mine to Pegasus last year and
> they weighed it and checked the spec weight of the bottle. It is the weight
> of the liquid that is important. Mine was probably older than yours and
> checked out fine. Halon keeps working a lot longer than newer type systems
> (FE-36 and AFFF) but is higher in toxicity and hard to clean up. It cannot
> be refilled like the newer systems. So if it is not the proper weight, you
> have to replace the whole bottle. In which case it would probably be best
to
> change to a AFFF or FE-36 bottle that fits your old set-up. Maybe If you
> contact PegasusAuto Racing Supplies (they are an authorized fire system
> center), they would give you the total weight that your bottle AND liquid
> should be. Then you could weigh it yourself.
>
> Not an expert but did do some research on this last year.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Question for the experts out there.  As I am freshening up the spitfire I
>> had
>> to pull out the fire bottle.  It is a halon bottle.  It has a few years on
>> it
>> but shows fully charged.  Do these things need serviced or recertified
>> after X
>> amount of years?  Or if fully charge they last indefinitely?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Marty
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From andre at gt6.ca  Mon Sep 19 16:27:13 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:27:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
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WAY TO GO!

A.

--
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'68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/
#515 FIAT 124 Spider  - http://www.124racer.com/
Ottawa, ON, Canada

> Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:11 AM
> To: triumph friends
> Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
>
>
>
> AMICI,
>
> A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
>
> family.
>
> In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
>
> After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
>
> coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
>
> The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
>
> be faster cars.
>
> My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
>
> and son moment" I will never forget!
>
> THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
>
> this possible.
>
> A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
>
> Friendly Ghost Racing.

From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 18:03:30 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:03:30 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <45BB578DBA234FB893BA4EBAB7EEF7CE@Bud>

Have fun Sam!!....sounds like it's in your blood...When you get on the 
track, you'll know exactly what to do...It'll come naturally..
Racer Bud..Spitfire #21
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving 
> formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day. 
> That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving 
> though.  I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage 
> races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half 
> price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The 
> only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet 
> today so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 
> and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs
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From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 18:05:27 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:05:27 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
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Message-ID: <0FB365A0ED3C4C33A66B4C0169DAE1E5@Bud>

Congratulations Jason!!...driving in the rain takes a nice 'touch'
Racer Bud Spitfire #21
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Mitchell" <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Jason Ostrowski" <jason at multivintage.com>; "triumph friends" 
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!


> Congratulations.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
> To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 11:10:55 AM
> Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
>
> AMICI,
> A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
> family.
> In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
> After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
> coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
> The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some 
> should
> be faster cars.
> My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
> and son moment" I will never forget!
> THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
> this possible.
> A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 05:22:57 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:22:57 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
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Message-ID: <785E046ADE424BBBBBDC980256C55595@owner8914bbf7f>

Sam, I agree with Bud; have fun!!!! Enjoy the day, and like they say at 
BeaveRun, be sure to take a towel with you to wipe off the big grin at the 
end of the day.
Enjoy.
Bill Tobin  Getting quicker TR6
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving 
> formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day. 
> That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving 
> though.  I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage 
> races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half 
> price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The 
> only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet 
> today so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 
> and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 06:45:55 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:45:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
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On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh, and
a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street cars)
and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:

> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.
I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today
so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam

From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Tue Sep 20 07:28:21 2011
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (Diesel Performance Parts - Info)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:28:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Revolution wheels for sale
Message-ID: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DACA4@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>

Hey Members,

Got a set of 4 13 x 6 four spoke Revolution wheels for sale. They are aluminum
and are originals. Fit the Spitfire and Lotus 4 lug pattern. Very nice
condition. I'd be using them but I have 7/16" studs and these are set up for
the 3/8" studs. I don't want to drill them out as they are originals and such
and are sort of scarce. Wanted to see if anyone on the list wanted them prior
to listing them on e bay.

Mark Craig
Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
411 Allied Drive
Nashville, TN 37211
866-455-7788 Phone
615-834-9923 Fax

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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue Sep 20 07:31:55 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:31:55 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <785E046ADE424BBBBBDC980256C55595@owner8914bbf7f>
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My mechanical advice is to make sure the car has have plenty of oil, coolant is topped up,  tires are at pressure and you've bled the brakes.  Better yet, go out on a straight road, get up to speed and jam on the brakes and make sure they don't pull to one side.  I've found that putt-putting around at moderate speeds, I often don't notice that there's  a frozen caliper or the equivalent, because the system is not getting stressed like it would on a race track.
The day will be much more fun if you aren't chasing mechanical issues.  


> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day. That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
> 
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs

From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 08:54:57 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:54:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
Message-ID: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>

Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling TR6
issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.

The details:

I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
the rings etc......

Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old reief
spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 at
idle.

I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
the "county" brand.

A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.

Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.

The car runs cool.  Never much above 160

I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit waiting
in line to get in the car show.

Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 miles
home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still liked
to smoke.

I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away as
I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.

Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.


Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM

From andre at gt6.ca  Tue Sep 20 09:22:07 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:22:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
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	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
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Open top cars are far easier to get roll cages into and service.

Yes you can get wet, but on a nice race car that wind it wonderful.

Until you take a chunk of rubber off the helmet ;)

Don't forget a HANS device.

A.

On 20 September 2011 08:45, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and
> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars)
> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
> I
>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
> races
>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
only
>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
today
> so
>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>
>> Sam
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From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Tue Sep 20 09:27:28 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:27:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
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In view of my experience on Sat. @Savannah, I would also suggest a good fire
extinguisher

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-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Munson
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:46 AM
To: Sam Clark
Cc: John Phillips; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars) and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:

> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
> though.
I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the
> vintage
races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I
> also helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun. Last week
> there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
> only down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my
> helmet today
so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 10:30:04 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:30:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
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	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
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Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs, if 
you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's 
not if, but when they break......
I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side is 
very reasonable.
I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
NFI, of course.
Have fun, Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers 
> with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh, 
> and
> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street 
> cars)
> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving 
>> though.
> I
>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
> races
>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The 
>> only
>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet 
>> today
> so
>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 
>> and
>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>
>> Sam
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 20 11:14:53 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:14:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
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For that matter, same advice on the GT6. In general the stock set up on the
rear axles is not appropriate for majorly pushing it on the track in an
HPDE. Having fun out there with a track touring approach is one thing...but
keep in mind that under a strong cornering load the axles have been known to
buckle under and fail with devastating consequence. This has happened to
more than one of even the best and well prepared GT6 race cars owned by
esteemed members of this very group. All of us GT6 racers would not even
think about going out without some type of upgraded set-up. And by far
the best stock set up is that of the GT6+ or mark 2. Flush any old brake
fluid and use Castrol LMA from a fresh unopened bottle. Also consider
draining the trans fluid and using the best available synthetic fluid Royal
Purple Syncromax or Red Line MTL. Oh, and bring a spare transmission with
you just in case. :)
Have Fun!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing GT6
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:

> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
> and
> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
> cars)
> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
> > fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
> > as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
> though.
> I
> > have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
> races
> > and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> > helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> > Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
> > which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
> only
> > down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
> today
> so
> > here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
> and
> > the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
> >
> > Sam
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 11:30:13 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:30:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <7EFD7B92-ED92-4C3E-90E7-1BC0BC7355A5@earthlink.net>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>,
	<7EFD7B92-ED92-4C3E-90E7-1BC0BC7355A5@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W25C0B6BC37F0004E8AE3BB900A0@phx.gbl>

I have the engine sealed up pretty well.  It leaks a little out the oil filter
bolt.  I'll try to fix that when I change the oil next.  It leaks a little out
the fill cap on the alloy valve cover (that bugs me).

There is a nice smoke trail, Blue or grey, not black puffs nicely at traffic
lights and shifts, not too noticeable on the freeway.  Certainly not dying
bomber status, doesn't seem to be fouling the plugs...........Cheers Henry

> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
> From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:21:53 -0700
> To: dos_gusanos at msn.com
>
> Henry, does it puff blue smoke or leak? can you tell where the oil is going?
You must determine this before you can fix the problem.

From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Sep 20 11:36:31 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:36:31 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <13BC48488E3046A4BAC2446B76CD8812@Bud>

Henry...If you have an increased amount of smoke after idling, it sounds 
like badly leaking valve guides....The oil is accumulating on the top of the 
pistons, and not burning off quickly, as it will when under power...
Racer Bud
Spitfire #21
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:54 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.


> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling 
> TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly. 
> Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old 
> reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 
> at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they 
> were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit 
> waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 
> miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still 
> liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes 
> away as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 11:42:53 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:42:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3B27030A-00E6-41ED-84CA-0BE98EF0FF8D@gmail.com>

Did they install seals on the intake valve guides?  Were the valve guides
checked for clearance?  High intake manifold vacuum that the engine
experiences at idle may be drawing oil through the guides and into the
combustion chamber.  Have you checked compression or done a leak down test
yet?  This would help determine whether the rings have anything to do with the
smoking.  If you have a compression gauge, try a test (throttle plates open)
and then test again after squirting a little bit of oil in through the plug
holes to help seal the rings.

Duncan
(Texas)


On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:

> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old
reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50
at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20
miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 20 12:30:17 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:30:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CALCydYr6h95Q3so2-qtNRnas86raTqYZHN0p-Wdk2M2xDPPnfw@mail.gmail.com>

The smoking bothers me more than the consumption. Most often that symptom is
a sign that its time for a rebuild due to ring wear.
My GT6 drinks oil like a college kid at a keg party. About a quart for every
30 min session. I often wonder where it's going?
I've been trying to figure that out for two seasons now.
But now the smoking I have, exactly as you describe, tells me its time for a
rebuild.
Unfortunately, the cheap pistons and rings my not have been a wise choice.
But hind sight is 20/20.
You're past your break in point already, use the heaviest oil it'll run on
and get some fun out of it.
Put a diaper (wads of heavy paper towels) anywhere you think it might be
leaking to be sure the smoking isn't from oil leaking on the hot stuff and
also to tell you how much it may be leaking.
Some easy little things that may help a bit.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com> wrote:

> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
> TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old
> reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50
> at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
> waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20
> miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
> liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
> as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From trdoctor at aol.com  Tue Sep 20 12:56:16 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:56:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
	<EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>

Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet and
long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red Line
MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head where
things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.

Sam


On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:

> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs, if
you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's not
if, but when they break......
> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side is
very reasonable.
> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
> NFI, of course.
> Have fun, Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
>
>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers
with
>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and
>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars)
>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>
>> Mike Munson
>> #28 EP TR6
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
>> formula
>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>> That's
>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
>> I
>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
>> races
>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
>> price
>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
only
>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
today
>> so
>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>
>>> Sam
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From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com  Tue Sep 20 13:51:01 2011
From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (rkramer3)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:51:01 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
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References: <390834960B09442EBD5EC1BFE2102FC0@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <14FA0AD0-1555-4B92-B547-2A2676443D89@austin.rr.com>

Do tell......

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:27 AM, "John Hasty" <jhhasty at gdhs.com> wrote:

> In view of my experience on Sat. @Savannah, I would also suggest a good
fire
> extinguisher
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Mike Munson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:46 AM
> To: Sam Clark
> Cc: John Phillips; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
>
> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
> and a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
> cars) and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
>> though.
> I
>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the
>> vintage
> races
>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I
>> also helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun. Last week
>> there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
>> only down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my
>> helmet today
> so
>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
> and
>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>
>> Sam
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 14:36:04 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:36:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
Message-ID: <SNT134-W27DA95BA47381F57D25061900A0@phx.gbl>

Well, yeah,   I did measure the end gaps on the rings.  All were within the
specifications.  The compression numbers when I checked them after 100 or so
miles were low (90 lbs at 7000 ft.) but even.  The rings came on the pistons
and were black in color, looked like they had been plated black.

I don't think that I broke any of the rings on installation.

The machine shop told me the guides were OK when I probed them as to why they
didn't ask to replace them additionally they said if they were shot, the car
would still not use that much oil.

I may strike out at the engine physically and violently if I have to
re-rebuild it.

Cheers Henry Morrison

From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Tue Sep 20 14:52:19 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:52:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <07c901cc77d7$30fef130$92fcd390$@rr.com>

> smokes when shifiting

What did you do to fix the leaking valve guides?

(I'll skip the cheap shot tho I'm sure others won't <g>)

-- Randall 

From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 15:14:26 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:14:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <07c901cc77d7$30fef130$92fcd390$@rr.com>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>,
	<07c901cc77d7$30fef130$92fcd390$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W56B7E9202D0F264DB02B06900A0@phx.gbl>

So, do ya think it's the guides?  I'd much rather replace those, than rings
and honing..................Cheers Henry


> From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com
> To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:52:19 -0700
>
> > smokes when shifiting
>
> What did you do to fix the leaking valve guides?
>
> (I'll skip the cheap shot tho I'm sure others won't <g>)
>
> -- Randall

From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Tue Sep 20 15:28:35 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:28:35 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
	<EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
	<82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F02D42E@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

Front brake pads like Hawk Blues would be a simple but effective temporary
improvement. Turn 3 at Hallett will test your brakes. I've also used the EBC
Green Stuff but if I were you would keep them away from your car. They shed
hot, little metal particles.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Sam Clark
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:56 PM
To: william r tobin
Cc: John Phillips; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap

Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet and
long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red Line
MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head where
things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.

Sam


On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:

> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear
> hubs, if
you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's not
if, but when they break......
> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a
> side is
very reasonable.
> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
> NFI, of course.
> Have fun, Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
>
>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake
>> calipers
with
>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing
>> HPDEs. Oh,
and
>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in
>> street
cars)
>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>
>> Mike Munson
>> #28 EP TR6
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA
>>> driving
>> formula
>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>> That's
>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
>> I
>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the
>>> vintage
>> races
>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I
>>> also helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for
>>> half
>> price
>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.
>>> The
only
>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my
>>> helmet
today
>> so
>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>
>>> Sam
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Sep 20 15:28:36 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:28:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com><CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com><EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
	<82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9EEA51166D704751BCA9D7BDB04C7183@Charly>

Sam,
Please understand that the rear hub on a TR6, TR250, TR4A, can and will 
break at any time.. It's not a matter of how many races or how hard you race 
it, the hub will snap off the stub axle at the end of the taper!  Everyone I 
know with a TR IRS suspension, even TVR's has broken one if not changed.  My 
car nearly flipped over when it broken at about 50mph and the tire went out 
the back.
As a matter of fact, I think all Triumphs and variations have this problem, 
even the non-IRS cars.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
To: "william r tobin" <william.tobin31 at verizon.net>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
> consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
> sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet 
> and
> long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
> check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red 
> Line
> MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head 
> where
> things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.
>
> Sam
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:
>
>> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs, 
>> if
> you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's 
> not
> if, but when they break......
>> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side 
>> is
> very reasonable.
>> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
>> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
>> NFI, of course.
>> Have fun, Bill
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
>> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>>
>>
>>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers
> with
>>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. 
>>> Oh,
> and
>>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
> cars)
>>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>>
>>> Mike Munson
>>> #28 EP TR6
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
>>> formula
>>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>>> That's
>>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
> though.
>>> I
>>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the 
>>>> vintage
>>> races
>>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I 
>>>> also
>>>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
>>> price
>>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
> only
>>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
> today
>>> so
>>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
> and
>>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>>
>>>> Sam
>>> _______________________________________________
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 17:47:52 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:47:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1B0C3BC8A55F4C4DA33F95EA5360812C@owner8914bbf7f>

Henry, another thought: did you hone the cylinder walls well before you 
installed the pistons/rings? Sounds like the rings have not seated.
Just wondering.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:54 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.


> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling 
> TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly. 
> Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old 
> reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 
> at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they 
> were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit 
> waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 
> miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still 
> liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes 
> away as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 18:11:43 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:11:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1316563903.42087.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Sam;
Make sure the tires are up to temp before going fast.  Having spun more
than once on an out lap on cold tires I know.  Get up to speed slowly.  The
class you had will be huge in helping you.  Kinda just do the same thing.  I
did the skip barber 3 day class.  Went to another local school and on my first
lap out in a CR (Club Rabbit) I spun.  Now after racing 6 years with the
Rabbit and my TR4 vintage car (2 years)  I spun on the out lap in the Rabbit
in August.  What an embarassment.  Tires cold and not near as sticky as the
Hoosiers i run on the TR. 
 
Just have fun and drive for yourself.  Dont worry
about impressing anyone.  
 
Mike

From: Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Cc: John Phillips <tr6 at atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, September
19, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap

YEARS ago I took a 3 day
class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
fords.  It was a blast. 
Went back a year later and did a lapping day.  That's
as far as my racing
career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
have been to
Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
and have
driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
helped Larry
Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
Last week there was a Groupon for a
day of High Speed Touring  for half price
which included a race port,
transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
down side is it is on Nov.
19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
here goes. . .  Larry even
offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any
advice?

Sam
Green Country Triumphs
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From malaboge at aol.com  Tue Sep 20 19:14:58 2011
From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:14:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
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Henry,

>From your posts, I see 2 possible clues...
1. Huge Oil pressure
2. The car runs cool.  Never much above 160

My guess...combo of the hi pressure pushing too much oil everywhere including
into the cylinders where its washing the cylinders down, and never getting hot
enuf to seat the rings amid the wash of oil...

At this point you may have glazed the walls/rings and once you lower the OP,
you might try the ole Bon Ami trick.  If that doesnt work you may have to
re-hone and re-ring...

sometimes too much is just that...
Nick in Nor Cal





-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Sep 20, 2011 10:12 am
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.


Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling TR6
ssue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
sing just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
The details:
I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
he rings etc......
Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old reief
pring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 at
dle.
I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
he "county" brand.
A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
rom lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit waiting
n line to get in the car show.
Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 miles
ome all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still liked
o smoke.
I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
as
'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
upming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.

heers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Tue Sep 20 19:51:26 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:51:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
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Message-ID: <000001cc7800$fe820a10$fb861e30$@com>

You might want to pull the plugs and check them.  If you have one or more
really bad guides those plugs are going to be really black and sooty.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Henry Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:55 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.

Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
TR6
issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.

The details:

I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
the rings etc......

Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old reief
spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 at
idle.

I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
the "county" brand.

A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.

Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.

The car runs cool.  Never much above 160

I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
waiting
in line to get in the car show.

Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 miles
home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
liked
to smoke.

I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
as
I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.

Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.


Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Sep 20 21:06:41 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:06:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<1316563903.42087.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C85B5E0DEC948D28AE5244681ABEDFD@Bud>

And Sam...remember...If things get confusing you can always just 'close your 
eyes'(:>)
RB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
Cc: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> Sam;
> Make sure the tires are up to temp before going fast.  Having spun more
> than once on an out lap on cold tires I know.  Get up to speed slowly. 
> The
> class you had will be huge in helping you.  Kinda just do the same thing. 
> I
> did the skip barber 3 day class.  Went to another local school and on my 
> first
> lap out in a CR (Club Rabbit) I spun.  Now after racing 6 years with the
> Rabbit and my TR4 vintage car (2 years)  I spun on the out lap in the 
> Rabbit
> in August.  What an embarassment.  Tires cold and not near as sticky as 
> the
> Hoosiers i run on the TR.
>
> Just have fun and drive for yourself.  Dont worry
> about impressing anyone.
>
> Mike
>
> From: Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com>
> To:
> fot at autox.team.net
> Cc: John Phillips <tr6 at atlasok.com>
> Sent: Monday, September
> 19, 2011 12:31 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
> YEARS ago I took a 3 day
> class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
> fords.  It was a blast.
> Went back a year later and did a lapping day.  That's
> as far as my racing
> career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
> have been to
> Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
> and have
> driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry
> Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a
> day of High Speed Touring  for half price
> which included a race port,
> transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
> down side is it is on Nov.
> 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
> here goes. . .  Larry even
> offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any
> advice?
>
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 20 21:36:31 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:36:31 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
Message-ID: <mailman.10.1316576214.14598.fot@autox.team.net>

Valve guides do smoke "on throttle", piston rings do smoke "off throttle".
How does your engine smoke?

Christ 
------Originalnachricht------
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An: fot
Betreff: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
Gesendet: 20. Sep. 2011 22:36

Well, yeah,   I did measure the end gaps on the rings.  All were within the
specifications.  The compression numbers when I checked them after 100 or so
miles were low (90 lbs at 7000 ft.) but even.  The rings came on the pistons
and were black in color, looked like they had been plated black.

I don't think that I broke any of the rings on installation.

The machine shop told me the guides were OK when I probed them as to why they
didn't ask to replace them additionally they said if they were shot, the car
would still not use that much oil.

I may strike out at the engine physically and violently if I have to
re-rebuild it.

Cheers Henry Morrison
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 21 06:15:40 2011
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:15:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 Master Cylinders
Message-ID: <1316607340.44674.YahooMailRC@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A M I C I

Does anyone have any TR4 brake and or clutch master cylinders on their junk 
pile?
I am still looking for some original Girling stuff to rebuild for my street TR4.

Thanks
Dennis DeLap

From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 07:22:22 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:22:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
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Jason,
If your crankcase vents into your GT6 intake manifold, does it have a pcv
valve?  It will prevent drawing such a heavy vacuum on the crankcase at idle.
I finally got around to installing on on a Rover V8 with an aftermarket
4-barrel carb conversion and the oil consumption dropped by a huge amount.
Duncan
(Texas)

On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> The smoking bothers me more than the consumption. Most often that symptom
is
> a sign that its time for a rebuild due to ring wear.
> My GT6 drinks oil like a college kid at a keg party. About a quart for
every
> 30 min session. I often wonder where it's going?
> I've been trying to figure that out for two seasons now.
> But now the smoking I have, exactly as you describe, tells me its time for
a
> rebuild.
> Unfortunately, the cheap pistons and rings my not have been a wise choice.
> But hind sight is 20/20.
> You're past your break in point already, use the heaviest oil it'll run on
> and get some fun out of it.
> Put a diaper (wads of heavy paper towels) anywhere you think it might be
> leaking to be sure the smoking isn't from oil leaking on the hot stuff and
> also to tell you how much it may be leaking.
> Some easy little things that may help a bit.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
wrote:
>
>> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
>> TR6
>> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
>> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>>
>> The details:
>>
>> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.
Staggered
>> the rings etc......
>>
>> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old
>> reief
>> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50
>> at
>> idle.
>>
>> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they
were
>> the "county" brand.
>>
>> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>>
>> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>>
>> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>>
>> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
>> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
>> waiting
>> in line to get in the car show.
>>
>> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20
>> miles
>> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
>> liked
>> to smoke.
>>
>> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes
away
>> as
>> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>>
>> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
>> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 21 11:21:56 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:21:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
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Sam,

I have broken the rear axle with auto cross and street use only. I have
witnessed one breaking in an HPDE event. These incidents were not full time
racing. To expand on what Bill said these axles were broken when they cut the
keyway in, it is just a matter of time before they finish breaking. We warned
you, good luck!

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet and
long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red Line
MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head where
things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.
>
> Sam
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:
>
>> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs,
if you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's
not if, but when they break......
>> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side is
very reasonable.
>> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
>> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
>> NFI, of course.
>> Have fun, Bill
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
>> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>>
>>
>>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers
with
>>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and
>>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars)
>>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>>
>>> Mike Munson
>>> #28 EP TR6
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
>>> formula
>>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>>> That's
>>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
>>> I
>>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
>>> races
>>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>>>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
>>> price
>>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
only
>>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
today
>>> so
>>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>>
>>>> Sam
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From dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 21 12:17:02 2011
From: dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net (dale oesterle)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:17:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Link
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From greenman62 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 21 13:54:06 2011
From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (Greg Petrolati)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:54:06 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 Master Cylinders
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Hi Dennis,

Check with Pegasus... the last time I looked I found new clutch MCs there. I
think they're use in F Fords etc...

I don't know what you will do for the brakes tho... maybe Roadster Factory?

Greg Petrolati   Lafayette, Oregon



That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory...





> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:15:40 -0700
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> Subject: [Fot] TR4 Master Cylinders
>
> A M I C I
>
> Does anyone have any TR4 brake and or clutch master cylinders on their junk
> pile?
> I am still looking for some original Girling stuff to rebuild for my street
TR4.
>
> Thanks
> Dennis DeLap
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From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:55:02 -0700
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I'm so busy... I don't know if I found a rope, or lost my horse.

From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Wed Sep 21 20:10:53 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:53 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Link
In-Reply-To: <3B60D839A313430CAC0D5E0138057E46@Vista>
References: <1316629022.18664.yint-ygo-j2me@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<3B60D839A313430CAC0D5E0138057E46@Vista>
Message-ID: <096e01cc78cc$dc037f60$940a7e20$@rr.com>

> Really?  You are now spamming the FOT list with Drug advertisements?
> Or is
> this just another high jacked way to send spam?

I believe it is bogus, and did not come from Dale at all.  It was apparently
sent through Yahoo mail with Dale's "From" address, but Dale has a real ISP.

-- Randall 

From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Sep 21 21:31:16 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:31:16 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR250K
Message-ID: <93724D21959040D5A9C0AD9E22500E46@Vista>

Hey gang, the TR250K made a cameo appearance on the Car Show tonight!

 

Joe C.

From ac at camoletti.ch  Thu Sep 22 04:11:10 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:11:10 +0200
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, survey results
Message-ID: <000c01cc790f$f3a57900$daf06b00$@camoletti.ch>

Amici!
Following my survey about LSD 3 weeks ago, I got at some point very confused
and was really hesitating hard between Quaife and Salisbury plate types:
I will drive the car on snow, and on the dry I tend to lift rear wheels
(live axle car), and go on sometimes uneven grip surfaces, so Salisbury more
appropriate on real roads.
But the Salisbury needs maintenance (coating on the clutches wears and need
replacement), heats a lot, and gets soon noisy.
So not great for a road car.
At that point I was really thinking of getting a Quaife: gear driven, no
maintenance, no noise. But spinning wheel lifted or on loose surface will
not lock. Plus the Quaife will try to counteract tail sliding, while the
Salisbury will help getting it smooth.
Price was not an issue as here in Europe they have approx. the same price.
At that point Keith Files (Kastner Cup winner 2010) came up with the Gripper
diff he has now on his TR6. The Gripper inventor was into the Jaguar
engineering racing team during the Le Mans years and he did a lot of
transmission development.
Keith tried it in his 207BHP TR6 at Silverstone and at the Nurburgring.
Performs brilliantly.
No noises (usually after an hour the Salisbury TranX gets noisy and clonks)
.
No need to rebuild so far (while with the traditional LSD a rebuild would be
needed after 3-4 hours already).
Progressive action also.
The Gripper is a refined design of the Salisbury plate type. The plates wear
very slowly as they are not coated, they just bead in each other. So no
noise coming in while the coatings wear. Replacement plates are very cheap
as they have no special coating (# 3 or so each).
Seems like the best of both worlds.
So I ordered a Gripper this morning to Simon, TR Enterprises, cost # 700
+tax (same as TranX traditional Salisbury type and Quaife gear LSD), Specs
40/65 ramp angles and 8 clutch plates fitted (instead a 12 for race track
use, which gives more locking, but one can just add the 4 plates to modify
the diff in full race form at any time).
Thank you very much to Keith, Kas, Teri Ann, Joe Curry, Bob Lang, Tony(both:
Drew+ Sheach), Chuck Arnold, Jim Gray and Joe Alexander for their very
informative and useful feedbacks.

Gripper website, with interesting tech drawings:
http://www.davemacprops.com/gripper.html

All the best!
Alex Camoletti

From ac at camoletti.ch  Thu Sep 22 04:11:40 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:11:40 +0200
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?StayUp=C2=AE_Floats_for_SU_Carburetters?=
In-Reply-To: <OHWEBSERVER4lb9rXg500002e50@OHWEBSERVER4.openhosts.com>
References: <OHWEBSERVER4lb9rXg500002e50@OHWEBSERVER4.openhosts.com>
Message-ID: <000d01cc7910$05d34030$1179c090$@camoletti.ch>

Amici,

The SU carburetter company in the UK (original manufacturer of our SU carbs)
just released so called unsinkable floats, see
http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ProductCategory.aspx?ParentId=277

It may be interesting.

Enjoy the we and for the ones on the track, have great races!

Alex Camoletti



De : info at sucarb.co.uk [mailto:info at sucarb.co.uk]
EnvoyC) : samedi 14 mai 2011 05:05
Objet : StayUpB. Floats for SU Carburetters



Greetings from The SU Carburetter Company,

We are pleased to introduce to you a new range of bunsinkableb floats made
by StayUpB..

The floats have been developed alongside the successful release of a similar
design by The AMAL Carburetter Company for their motorcycle Carburetters. They
are constructed from a military spec material designed for use in the warzone
where a fail safe operation of floating devices is critical. The material,
which is foam filled, will continue to float even when punctured and is
resistant to ethanol based fuels. All floats have been designed by SU to match
the original specifications of size and weight for the standard items b this
ensures easy replacement and float level settings.

The first to be released are the large T4 and medium T2 size floats for most
H, HV and HD type Carburetters with the smaller T1 size coming soon. HS type
Carburetter versions are also available now.

Spitfire House, Castle Road, Salisbury, Wiltshire, SP1 3SB, England -
Registered in England & Wales: Reg No. 2005550
Tel: 00 44 (0)1722 412500 - Fax: 00 44 (0)1722 334221 - Email:
<mailto:info at sucarb.co.uk?subject=SU-Per%20Charged%20Mailshot>
info at sucarb.co.uk - Website:  <http://www.sucarb.co.uk/> www.sucarb.co.uk
The SU Carburetter Company is a division of Burlen Fuel Systems Limited.

From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Sep 22 08:10:32 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:10:32 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR250K
References: <93724D21959040D5A9C0AD9E22500E46@Vista>
Message-ID: <79D00196DB41442DBFD6296DCE2295B9@Charly>

If you look closely, you'll also see a shot of the paddock area with Mordy's 
car mostly highlighted, about 1 1/2 seconds, and the TR3 racer as well.  It 
then shows the TR250K and Adam asks what a strange looking car.  It airs 
again on Saturday.
I didn't see them there taping the show, but they were there the same time 
we had the Kastner Cup there.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Curry" <spitlist at cox.net>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR250K


> Hey gang, the TR250K made a cameo appearance on the Car Show tonight!
>
>
>
> Joe C.
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Thu Sep 22 10:30:18 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:30:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] StayUpR Floats for SU Carburetters
In-Reply-To: <000d01cc7910$05d34030$1179c090$@camoletti.ch>
References: <OHWEBSERVER4lb9rXg500002e50@OHWEBSERVER4.openhosts.com>
	<000d01cc7910$05d34030$1179c090$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <000901cc7944$ed800970$c8801c50$@com>

Report on similar floats from Joe Curto:
We got two of Joe's floats last spring, which are similar to the SU floats,
and installed them.  We ran 3 events this summer and have had no problems.
Carbs are H6's.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:12 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] StayUpR Floats for SU Carburetters

Amici,

The SU carburetter company in the UK (original manufacturer of our SU carbs)
just released so called unsinkable floats, see
http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ProductCategory.aspx?ParentId=277

It may be interesting.

Enjoy the we and for the ones on the track, have great races!

Alex Camoletti



De : info at sucarb.co.uk [mailto:info at sucarb.co.uk]
EnvoyC) : samedi 14 mai 2011 05:05
Objet : StayUpB. Floats for SU Carburetters



Greetings from The SU Carburetter Company,

We are pleased to introduce to you a new range of bunsinkableb floats made
by StayUpB..

The floats have been developed alongside the successful release of a similar
design by The AMAL Carburetter Company for their motorcycle Carburetters.
They
are constructed from a military spec material designed for use in the
warzone
where a fail safe operation of floating devices is critical. The material,
which is foam filled, will continue to float even when punctured and is
resistant to ethanol based fuels. All floats have been designed by SU to
match
the original specifications of size and weight for the standard items b
this
ensures easy replacement and float level settings.

The first to be released are the large T4 and medium T2 size floats for most
H, HV and HD type Carburetters with the smaller T1 size coming soon. HS type
Carburetter versions are also available now.

Spitfire House, Castle Road, Salisbury, Wiltshire, SP1 3SB, England -
Registered in England & Wales: Reg No. 2005550
Tel: 00 44 (0)1722 412500 - Fax: 00 44 (0)1722 334221 - Email:
<mailto:info at sucarb.co.uk?subject=SU-Per%20Charged%20Mailshot>
info at sucarb.co.uk - Website:  <http://www.sucarb.co.uk/> www.sucarb.co.uk
The SU Carburetter Company is a division of Burlen Fuel Systems Limited.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep 22 14:59:52 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:59:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Runoffs Grid for EP
Message-ID: <CALCydYo6GA9yw27=U6GabJdW3RgTampzHv0-hASXTB0b3MKJUg@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like the final grid is set for the SCCA National Championship Runoffs
for EP. Our Friend Sam Halkias is starting fourth in the Catawaba Island
Marina TR6. He is surrounded by a bunch of different types of Mazda's all
with very similar qualifying times. Pole position qualified about two
seconds ahead of Sam and the 2nd and 3rd place cars about 1 second. So he
will have a tough race for the podium... but we know of the 34 cars on the
grid he has the coolest car and best chance.

The last qualifying session for FP starts at 4:10 and that will set the
final grid for the Group. I usual domination, Steve Sargis in his Spitfire
has been topping the charts and should take the pole.

Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep 22 18:09:41 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:09:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Runoffs Grid for FP and HP
Message-ID: <CALCydYovc8uuVWn9_vYJJugujbxhgPJ9HzNui=PycCx3QdENKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Steve Sargis is on top again with the pole in FP with a blistering time of
2:31.9
Also, Two other Spitfire 1500's in FP... Dieter Griesinger in 11th and Cris
Patrick in 14th.

In HP there are 3 Spitfires filling the field of 22 cars.
6th Jamie Blust
17th Tom Broring
20th Robert "Rocky" Entriken

All races can be viewed live on www.speedcasttv.com/*scca*

FP Friday at 1:30 pm
HP Sun at 8:30am
EP Sun at 1:30 pm

Lets go Triumphs!
Lets Go FOT!

Cheers!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Sep 23 18:13:48 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:13:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Racing Parts for sale
Message-ID: <8CE4865F71272A4-2AE4-571C7@webmail-m024.sysops.aol.com>

sounds like a spitfire spring and tr4 parts for sale.

got this from a friend.....

any interest?

Steve Yott pump is a hard to get item these days.

i might be interested in the pistons as spares






To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 20, 2011 8:07 pm
Subject: Racing Parts



Joe:
 I came across a lot of new racing parts for various Triumphs that I am
interested in selling.  One of which is a new competition fiberglass rear leaf
spring with three different aluminum spacer blocks.  I am not interested in
the spitfire parts as I have a TR4 and TR6 that I run autocross.  Ibd like
to find a good home for this part and have no idea on its value or where it
was purchased.  Do you have any idea  who sells them and who might be
interested in it? I have attached four pics of the item. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. I also have the following new parts for TR4 and 4A:
Richard Good Roller Rocker Set 1.55:1
TR4A Fidanza Aluminum flywheel
Moss Aluminum water pump housing and aluminum water pump
Moss 45D Race distributor with points
Aluminum front engine plate (gee, I wonder where this one came from)
TR4 cam shaft (new , not reground. 270 duration) This is a brand new (new
blank, not reground) high performance cam shaft for your Triumph TR3 or TR4.
It has a 270 Piper cams  grind
Triumph TR2-TR4A high performance oil pump by Steve Yott.
Set of fully machined and matched connecting rods for TR2-TR4A with ARP
hardware
Four new .030 pistons that I believe are for the TR2-4A connecting rods.
Still need to verify

Hope all is well and many thanks

From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 23 22:18:02 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:18:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
Message-ID: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I am still chasing the leak out of the oil pressure leak adjustment screw. 
After setting the oil pressure on my motor new for this season it has been
leaking all summer.  It looks to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems to
have them in their catalogs.   
 
Has anyone else had this type of leak?  Any
suggestions on how to fix/reduce the leak would be appriciated.
 
Thanks!! 
Mike Mehl
 

From: Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
To: 'Triumph Friends of'
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:30 PM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)

>  The seal
I
> referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have 
> any
thoughts on
> fixing this leak?

TRF shows P/N 500328 in stock.

-- Randall 
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sat Sep 24 00:53:35 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:53:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
	<1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <081b01cc7a86$ae6d3260$0301a8c0@randall>

>  After setting the oil pressure on my motor 
> new for this season it has been leaking all summer.  It looks 
> to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems to have them in 
> their catalogs.   

One of my references calls 30123 "wire, lead".  A quick examination of a
relatively unmolested filter head shows something that might be lead.

So I'd probably try a turn of ordinary solder.

-- Randall  

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sat Sep 24 07:00:52 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:00:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] RACING PARTS FOR SALE
Message-ID: <8CE48D11FBD1EDF-1DE4-9BC99@webmail-d172.sysops.aol.com>

CONTACT INFORMATION:

JIM HENNINGSEN
trguy at cfl.rr.com

NFI

From N197TR4 at cs.com  Sat Sep 24 08:15:01 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:15:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Racing Parts
Message-ID: <1d622.299a971a.3baf3fe5@cs.com>

Contact:

Jim Henningsen

trguy at cfl.rr.com</HTML>

From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Sat Sep 24 09:15:18 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:15:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
	<1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E7DF406.2010604@blacksburg.net>

On 9/24/2011 12:18 AM, Mike Mehl wrote:
> I am still chasing the leak out of the oil pressure leak adjustment screw.
> After setting the oil pressure on my motor new for this season it has been
> leaking all summer.  It looks to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems to
> have them in their catalogs.
>
> Has anyone else had this type of leak?  Any
> suggestions on how to fix/reduce the leak would be appriciated.
>
> Thanks!!
> Mike Mehl
>    

Mike, I've successfully used a couple of turns of thin (~0.03) lead 
solder, then ensure that the jam nut is tight.  Keep the ends close so 
that they'll squeeze together and form the lead washer.

jim

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go

From stlnyc at msn.com  Sat Sep 24 16:33:59 2011
From: stlnyc at msn.com (Fred & Mary Hodgson)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:33:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Opinions
Message-ID: <SNT125-W19559920285E4590C1D339DA0E0@phx.gbl>

Amici-

Has anyone used Dunlop Direzzas on a race car?  If so, how'd they work & what
pressures were you running?  I'm running a '62 TR4.

Thanks in advance.

Fred Hodgson

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sat Sep 24 17:23:40 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:23:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Racing Parts
In-Reply-To: <018101cc7b0d$3eaabd30$bc003790$@rr.com>
References: <003601cc77fa$c42944b0$4c7bce10$@rr.com>
	<8CE48650E55609E-2AE4-57130@webmail-m024.sysops.aol.com>
	<00fa01cc7a50$c21b4080$4651c180$@rr.com>
	<8CE48D1C1F09483-1DE4-9BE0F@webmail-d172.sysops.aol.com>
	<018101cc7b0d$3eaabd30$bc003790$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4928205EF7A7-410-88162@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com>

Jim identifies the pistons as spitfire, if you are interested.

72mm






-----Original Message-----
From: James Henningsen <trguy at cfl.rr.com>
To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 24, 2011 5:56 pm
Subject: RE: Racing Parts



Joe: the pistons are AE +.030 Spitfire and not TR3 or TR4. The had a diameter
on the top of 72mm.
Jim Henningsen


From: n197tr4 at cs.com [mailto:n197tr4 at cs.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:05 AM

From pvucinic at netspace.net.au  Sat Sep 24 17:57:14 2011
From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 09:57:14 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
	<1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACxbEgK3O79MiqnuYcYqj9HCgAAAEAAAAA5j7we3DFFPq0u+fVsDV+4BAAAAAA==@netspace.net.au>

Mike,
Use a piece of solder wire from a coil of solder. Works perfectly. Have used
it for years with no leaks.


Kind Regards
Peter Vucinic
TR-4
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-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Mehl
Sent: Saturday, 24 September 2011 2:18 PM
To: Randall; 'Triumph Friends of'
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4

I am still chasing the leak out of the oil pressure leak adjustment screw. 
After setting the oil pressure on my motor new for this season it has been
leaking all summer.  It looks to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems
to
have them in their catalogs.   
 
Has anyone else had this type of leak?  Any
suggestions on how to fix/reduce the leak would be appriciated.
 
Thanks!! 
Mike Mehl
 

From: Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
To: 'Triumph Friends of'
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:30 PM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)

>  The seal
I
> referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have 
> any
thoughts on
> fixing this leak?

TRF shows P/N 500328 in stock.

-- Randall 
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From jason at multivintage.com  Sun Sep 25 09:12:40 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:12:40 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Runoff performance
Message-ID: <mailman.13.1316963583.14598.fot@autox.team.net>

Sargis was on top in fp on friday, dominating flag to flag. Cris patrick 12th, and Griesinger 20th.

A hard charging FOT'er "Rocky" Entriken moved up many spots to finish 11th in HP.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From kaskas at cox.net  Sun Sep 25 13:54:00 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:54:00 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race
Message-ID: <SNT120-W37E5109F7CDD108F356BE7DFF20@phx.gbl>

Who has entered for the Las Vegas VARA race in October?

Never be beaten by equipment Race

From jason at multivintage.com  Sun Sep 25 15:11:27 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:11:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] EP final results
Message-ID: <CALCydYp_fg+G1OEeqmHqtJHNNP46whFD=poR_uKE=7wPv3T6rg@mail.gmail.com>

Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by David
Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit halfway
over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the field
found their way into the kitty litter.
In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
fourth.
Way to go Sam!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

From Gt6steve at aol.com  Sun Sep 25 15:42:14 2011
From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 17:42:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race
Message-ID: <3d762.2cb3cad.3bb0fa36@aol.com>

Funny you should ask, I was just thinking the same thing...
 
 
Me for one.
 
 
In a message dated 9/25/2011 2:35:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
kaskas at cox.net writes:

Who has  entered for the Las Vegas VARA race in October?

Never be beaten by  equipment  Race
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From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM  Mon Sep 26 07:18:55 2011
From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:18:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Opinions
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I have run them on my track day miata.  They are a 200 wear rating so not real
soft and overall wear is pretty good.  They are a very good tire in the rain!

John

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Of Fred & Mary Hodgson
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:34 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Opinions

Amici-

Has anyone used Dunlop Direzzas on a race car?  If so, how'd they work & what
pressures were you running?  I'm running a '62 TR4.

Thanks in advance.

Fred Hodgson
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From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM  Mon Sep 26 07:19:25 2011
From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:19:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Opinions
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I am running around 25 lbs cold

John

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Amici-

Has anyone used Dunlop Direzzas on a race car?  If so, how'd they work & what
pressures were you running?  I'm running a '62 TR4.

Thanks in advance.

Fred Hodgson
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 26 08:58:56 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:58:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Brief Sebring RiffRAF Racing Report
Message-ID: <1317049136.42585.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Proud to say the FOT flag flew high (thanks, Chris!) over the 14 Hours of
ChumpCar at Sebring this weekend...on the other hand, RiffRAF did not have a
smooth trip.  Details below for those interested, pictures at
http://www.awolphoto.com/keyword/09242011-chumpcar-0#1498444314_CSPd5qw:
 
Race started out well once we finally got 4 tires on 4 useable wheels...thanks
Yarborough Tire in Sebring, they succeeded where others couldn't, although we
still couldn't mount Dunlops on Cal 500's. 

Ted Schumacher, Brian (Ted's
son), Jack McGahey, Joe Downer and I were drivers. Special thanks to Scott who
helped us fuel again as he did last year!

Special thanks to Kevin/Robert/Mr.
Andrews/Steven for helping to get the car ready even though they weren't
coming to the race.

We had pit position #1 again (beginning of pits) which
worked out nicely.

I started the race, I think the green flew with us in
about the middle of the 61 cars that started. Worked my way up to about 14th
and then ran out of gas with 15 mins left in stint. This made/makes no sense,
but I and someone else both checked the fuel level before the race, so we
could only assume the car actually used that much fuel. Changed driving stints
to 1-1/2 hours for rest of race and Lacey continued to use the same amount of
fuel, so it's either the track or something else in the car changed
(unlikely). There certainly was a lot of foot to the floor time in a Sebring
lap. 

Crash truck service left a lot to be desired. They asked me if my crew
was planning on bringing out gas to me... (!) They could learn a lot from Iowa
Speedway...

I will say that I enjoyed driving the track as much or more than
any track we've been to. It's not ideally suited to Lacey's lack of power but
it's REALLY fun to drive!!!!!

Jack got in the car and was doing great, then
spun close to the end of his stint. We're still not exactly sure what happened
but from this point on, the car would only fire on 5 cylinders. Turned Brian
loose in the car and kept bringing him in trying to diagnose the miss. Traced
to cylinder 3, replaced plug, wire, rotor, cap...no luck. Started to miss
more, pitted long time, found plug/piston contact. Not good. Pulled two
pushrods and kept going.

That's pretty much the story from there on out. Joe
showed us again that he's our ace by coming within 10 seconds of my best lap
on only 5 cylinders (!). 

Major lightning stopped the race for about 2 hours.
We ended up 29th (out of 61), passing a Volvo 740 in the final minutes to take
that spot.

No car-car contact for us for entire race, and LOTS of cars went
off track where we did not (Jack stayed on track during his spin, but car
stalled). More cars dropped out of this one on a percentage basis than any
other race we've been to (by my estimate only 50% of the cars entered were
running at the end, and it may have been fewer than that).  Winning car was a
'96 Nissan 300ZX...very, very quick!

From spitracer1296 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 26 09:27:57 2011
From: spitracer1296 at yahoo.com (chris crisenbery)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for contact info. for Rick Parent
Message-ID: <1317050877.91242.YahooMailNeo@web113809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey Group,
 
I'm looking for contact info. for Rick Parent, the last e-mail
address I had bounced back to me.  He might even be a member of this group?
 
If possible please send me an e-mail or forward mine to him.
 
Thanks
 
Chris
Crisenbery
 
spitracer1296 at yahoo.com

From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Mon Sep 26 09:45:18 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 clutch
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All of a sudden, smelling the clutch and a struggle to get in gear.  Is there
any adjustment or is it clutch replace time?  What is a good TR6 clutch
replacement that can take some punishment?  Thanks, Jim

From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Sep 26 10:52:08 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:52:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] EP final results
Message-ID: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>

In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by 
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit 
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the 
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
> 
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"  
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race under 
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue 
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The 
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position because 
of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their 
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were unfortunate 
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with 
straightaway speed.  

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th 
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.  
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda 
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but 
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why 
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm 
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself comfortable with 
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from 
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this 
year.

Bill Dentinger

From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Sep 26 11:19:50 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:19:50 +0000
Subject: [Fot] EP final results
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Hand picked parts, yes. Legal no. 
Just heard from Sam, the Honda was thrown out for a bit too much compression. Moving him up to 3rd. 
The plot thickens. 
Jason, FGR
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-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin at aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:52:08 
To: <jason at multivintage.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results

In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by 
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit 
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the 
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
> 
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"  
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race under 
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue 
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The 
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position because 
of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their 
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were unfortunate 
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with 
straightaway speed.  

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th 
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.  
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda 
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but 
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why 
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm 
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself comfortable with 
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from 
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this 
year.

Bill Dentinger

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon Sep 26 12:31:34 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:31:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
 3rd.
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 Sam went podium after Hobb's Sponsored Prelude was DQ'd    flagrant
infractions reported.

Accolades went to Rocky Entriken for his involvement in SCCA, by the
announcers.

Sargis   :   flag to flag   what more can you say.

THE FOT SHINES IN A VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT










-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: jason <jason at multivintage.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results


In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
>
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race under
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position
because

of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were unfortunate
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with
straightaway speed.

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself
comfortable
with
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this
year.

Bill Dentinger
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Mon Sep 26 14:21:42 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:21:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
 3rd.
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Well, in SCCA, it's only cheating if you get caught!
Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:32 PM
To: BillDentin at aol.com; jason at multivintage.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
3rd.

 Sam went podium after Hobb's Sponsored Prelude was DQ'd    flagrant
infractions reported.

Accolades went to Rocky Entriken for his involvement in SCCA, by the
announcers.

Sargis   :   flag to flag   what more can you say.

THE FOT SHINES IN A VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT










-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: jason <jason at multivintage.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results


In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
>
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race
under
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position
because

of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were
unfortunate
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with
straightaway speed.

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself
comfortable
with
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this
year.

Bill Dentinger
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From smockracer at charter.net  Mon Sep 26 18:17:28 2011
From: smockracer at charter.net (Paul Smock )
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:17:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race
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I will be there. Paul #190 TR4A
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To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 12:54 PM
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race


> Who has entered for the Las Vegas VARA race in October?
>
> Never be beaten by equipment Race
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Sep 26 20:26:07 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:26:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Mallory distributor with Unilite electronic breakerless
 conversion
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I am in the process of installing one of these in my former 'dual point' Mallory distributor on my GT6.  The wiring diagram indicates a variable resistor should be installed in the ignition circuit, before the coil, of 0.7-2.0 ohms.  Mallory tech indicated that if the ignition coil itself has a resistance of 1.3-2.4 ohms, no supplemental resistor is needed.  they indicated that anything under 1.3 or over 2.4 was problematic.  At my last outing, chasing ignition problems, I tested two Bosch blue coils I had with someone else's multimeter and got a reading of 1.4 ohms, so I figured I  was all set.  Now, home in the garage, with my own multimeter, I am getting a reading of 3.4 ohms on the Bosch and 3.2 ohms on a brand new Lucas gold coil.  

So, is my meter inaccurate?  If anyone can check a coil and tell me what they find, that  would be great.  Second, is anyone using the Unilite set-up, and if so, what combination of coil and resistance are you using?

Thanks!

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 27 00:10:03 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:10:03 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Message-ID: <mailman.15.1317103824.14598.fot@autox.team.net>

Dear FOT,

I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly and sometimes it lasts aons.

For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:

1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
2. Teeth with camfered edges

In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock gear wheel.

Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp edged cams too?

I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better protection. Any idea if that will work?

Cheers
Chris
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From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 27 05:28:38 2011
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:28:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
 3rd.
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Apparently he needed Kas to explain the rules to the Stewards.


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To: n197tr4 at cs.com;
BillDentin at aol.com; jason at multivintage.com; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday,
September 26, 2011 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd
Sam went to well desrved 3rd.

Well, in SCCA, it's only cheating if you get
caught!
Russ

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Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went
to well desrved
3rd.

Sam went podium after Hobb's Sponsored Prelude was DQ'd 
  flagrant
infractions reported.

Accolades went to Rocky Entriken for his
involvement in SCCA, by the
announcers.

Sargis  :  flag to flag  what more
can you say.

THE FOT SHINES IN A VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT
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Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011
1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results


In a message dated 09/25/2011
5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam
Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain.
Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by
> David
> Hobbs no
less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and
got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit
> halfway
> over the
rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather
quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire
wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the
> field
> found their
way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he
finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
>
I too watched the EP race
on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"
Actually, all of the drivers
that drove in a National Championship race
under
those conditions deserve
kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue
getting sideways and off circuit
coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The
announcers claim the corner worker
had signaled Sam to hold his position
because

of oncoming traffic.  But who
can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their
signal, or the heat of the moment
took over, but the results were
unfortunate
for the then 5th placed car. 
Sam's car is really impressive with
straightaway speed.

But I was also
impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th
to 3rd in the
race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.
Talk about a Swamp
Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda
as his sponsor, did
he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but
hand picked parts to
build a very special engine).  But were that so, why
did he only qualify
26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm
convinced it's far more
likely he's an ice racer that found himself
comfortable
with
those slippery
conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from
26th to 3rd had to
be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this
year.

Bill Dentinger
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From mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 27 08:41:20 2011
From: mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net (mrcpt1@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate
Message-ID: <1317134480.72951.YahooMailRC@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello , does anyone have a TR-4 deck-plate in the Chicago area ? 

Thanks Mike
.

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 27 09:53:34 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:53:34 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace
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Message-ID: <001401cc7d2d$9f4f33b0$dded9b10$@com>

Another video of the event. There will be a DVD with a lot more coverage:

http://www.racingtv.de/2009/Automobil/Magazin_2011/Triumph_Eifelrennen/c_716

Cheers
Chris

From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Tue Sep 27 10:11:54 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:11:54 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate
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I have two and I'd like to sell one. If someone in the Chicago area would like
to be the custodian please contact me.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

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Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate

Hello , does anyone have a TR-4 deck-plate in the Chicago area ?

Thanks Mike
.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 27 11:40:55 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:40:55 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate
Message-ID: <mailman.16.1317145283.14598.fot@autox.team.net>

I regularly receive UPS and fedex packages at my antique store in Brookfield, 10 miles west of Chicago. Happy to accept a Triumph part free of charge for FOT.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
Wonderland Multivintage
3731 Grand blvd
Brookfield IL 60513 
(708)387-0890
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Deck Plate
Sent: Sep 27, 2011 11:11 AM

I have two and I'd like to sell one. If someone in the Chicago area would like
to be the custodian please contact me.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


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Hello , does anyone have a TR-4 deck-plate in the Chicago area ?

Thanks Mike
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Tue Sep 27 11:47:04 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:47:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Mallory Unilite set-up on TR4
Message-ID: <1926EB44-87E4-4685-AD64-D8E88D59F962@aol.com>

Scott,

I went with all Mallory when I converted my Dual Point to Unilite:  
Promaster Coil MAL-30440, Ballast resistor MAL-700, Pro SIdewinder 8mm  
Wire Set. I had purchased a Hyfire Ign control, too, but found it not  
necessary at my revs (below 6500). It's been trouble free for 6 years!  
Changed out to replacement coil last year only because original got  
loose in the mounting bracket and I wondered about vibration effects.  
The guy at Century Performance, Reno, Nevada seemed very knowledgeable.

John Frymark

From capecoventryracing at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 13:04:21 2011
From: capecoventryracing at gmail.com (John Nikas)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:04:21 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Article
Message-ID: <CACWViu_srJL-EGRF++1aYa1qe=FmYHhvUGvVMYneniUJuZp=XA@mail.gmail.com>

Everyone. The news article on this year's Kastner Cup race appears in the
November issue of Vintage Racecar which should be on the news stands in 2
weeks. It's well written and gives proper credit to 2011 winner Jerry Barker
for punching above his weight to secure the win. By the way, if anyone wants
to do a write up of the Euro Cup I can ask Casey to put it in the next
issue. Also, if you have not received a shirt that was paid for (except for
Barry Munson which was just sent) please let me know off list.

-- 
Very truly yours,

John Nikas
Cape Coventry Racing
www.capecoventryracing.com
(949) 375-6306

From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Tue Sep 27 13:34:38 2011
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:34:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
References: <20110927071958.AF091187870@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <36E91246C71942A09FD163F8EA681835@TRIUMPH.local>

Are you talking about OEM reground cams or new chilled iron cams?

I have never seen the issue on an OEM cam, but I have seen it countless 
times on new cams. Cutting that gear is pretty tricky, I suppose.

My solution is only run regrinds.

As far as your question about nitriding, if the cam gear is not cut right, 
hardening will just waste more money.

Henry
yellow04 at tr4racer.com
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:10 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure


> Dear FOT,
>
> I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly 
> and sometimes it lasts aons.
>
> For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:
>
> 1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
> 2. Teeth with camfered edges
>
> In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock 
> gear wheel.
>
> Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp 
> edged cams too?
>
> I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better 
> protection. Any idea if that will work?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 27 14:32:08 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:32:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Message-ID: <mailman.17.1317155554.14598.fot@autox.team.net>

That was my impress that the stock items do work properly.
Why it is so difficult to make this gear? Is there a mistake value in the blue prints?
A reground cam never can do the same profile as a new blank.
Maybe it is time to find out more about this issue and solve it.

------Originalnachricht------
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Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Gesendet: 27. Sep. 2011 21:34

Are you talking about OEM reground cams or new chilled iron cams?

I have never seen the issue on an OEM cam, but I have seen it countless 
times on new cams. Cutting that gear is pretty tricky, I suppose.

My solution is only run regrinds.

As far as your question about nitriding, if the cam gear is not cut right, 
hardening will just waste more money.

Henry
yellow04 at tr4racer.com
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:10 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure


> Dear FOT,
>
> I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly 
> and sometimes it lasts aons.
>
> For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:
>
> 1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
> 2. Teeth with camfered edges
>
> In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock 
> gear wheel.
>
> Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp 
> edged cams too?
>
> I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better 
> protection. Any idea if that will work?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From atr6racer at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 27 14:47:27 2011
From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:47:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup/laguna
Message-ID: <SNT136-W36F36B5625440859FF26F1F9F00@phx.gbl>

One of the shows I DVR is "The Car Show" with Adam Corolla. (Probably because
I miss "The Man show" with "Girls jumping on trampolines") The September 21
episode featured his run in his  Bob Sharp Datsun 610 on the same weekend we
held the Kastner Cup event. Some of the footage captured our FOT'ers with a
quick shot of TR row with Mordy's TR4, a shot of the TR250K coming back in the
paddock and being called " the strangest looking car I've ever seen" by a
host, and the final shot was Hardy's TR3 which the Host's loudly declared it
"a real man's car!" They replay those episodes constantly so try and catch it
it you can.

Sam Halkias

From jaboruch at netzero.net  Wed Sep 28 20:00:43 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:00:43 GMT
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Message-ID: <20110928.220043.12718.0@webmail59.dca.untd.com>

You can do what I did - ditch the distributor and oil pump, and then run a dry
sump pump and crank fired ignition.  I think, however, that vintage race
organizations would frown on that.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:10:03 +0000

Dear FOT,

I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly and
sometimes it lasts aons.

For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:

1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
2. Teeth with camfered edges

In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock gear
wheel.

Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp edged
cams too?

I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better
protection. Any idea if that will work?

Cheers
Chris
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep 29 08:38:56 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:38:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS AND THE FOT
Message-ID: <8CE4CCC9EA2AAF4-E7C-4739@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>

CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS:

Gary Horstkorta provided a nice shot and report on the FOT at work while at
LAGUNA SECA.

KAS' new book, was nicely reviewed in the magazine as well.

There was mention of the FOT at the Mitty forthcoming in the spring, and that
Kas is the Grand Marshall of the event.

Always nice to be recognized for what we do.

Thanks CMS.

From jhd11 at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 29 09:07:57 2011
From: jhd11 at hotmail.com (Joe Henry)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:07:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] '12 Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <COL118-W24EBD8EE7830C1EEBA1631A9F60@phx.gbl>

FOT'ers,
     Who is the Chairman of the '12 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta and contact
information Please.  Thanks in advance.

Joe Downer
Charlotte, N.C.

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep 29 10:59:50 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:59:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] '12 Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W24EBD8EE7830C1EEBA1631A9F60@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <8CE4CE055F24C6A-E7C-6E74@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>

 Joe Henry....you ask a very timely question

CHAIRMEN.......FOR PLANNING AND COMMUNICATION PURPOSES

HENRY FRYE:   FOR THE FOT

ANDY REID:  FOR CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS


Both Henry Frye and Andy Reid indicate that information is forthcoming,
shortly.

Joe Alexander








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Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 11:38 am
Subject: [Fot] '12 Kastner Cup


FOT'ers,
     Who is the Chairman of the '12 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta and contact
information Please.  Thanks in advance.

Joe Downer
Charlotte, N.C.
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep 29 11:58:45 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:58:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] [CWE] TR4 rear oil seal
In-Reply-To: <3C5498685AED0E49BC7904C3D3F21BAD029E091F2E@CP-EMBX01.pbsj.com>
References: <6D5D54F4-C240-45D0-AE37-163391C0D3ED@verizon.net><8CE4CD2FBB8BCB5-E7C-52A5@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
	<3C5498685AED0E49BC7904C3D3F21BAD029E091F2E@CP-EMBX01.pbsj.com>
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 the important thing is that crank retains the oem diameter at the scroll
area.

that is what the seal is sized to.

the scroll seal housing is modified from the oem parts to accept Chris' seal
design.

i am facilitating distribution in the US by providing the centering tool with
corrected dimensions and the modified scroll, which is done on an exchange
basis.

i am looking at producing the seal housing here in iowa because the exchange
program is cumbersome and inventory on those lag.





-----Original Message-----
From: Blake, Gregory S <greg.blake at atkinsglobal.com>
To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 12:19 pm
Subject: RE:  TR4 rear oil seal



Joe,

Remind me but does this new seal require that the scrolls remain?  I am having
a couple cranks made by Marine Crankshaft and want to use the latest on seal
technology.  I have not been too happy with the Moss kit in the past.

Thanks,

Greg


From: cwe-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:cwe-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Tr3a58 at verizon.net; cwe at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [CWE] TR4 rear oil seal



I have had no negative experiences or feedback, so far.

One guy had flywheel bolts too long and it tore the seal up and it was
replaced.

Jim Gray just ordered a replacement but he hasnt told me why he needs it.

As long as installation is as good as the OEM installation should be, the
superior VITON seal should be the final word in oil control, especially in a
newly built engine.

I have a couple kits on the shelf and hopefully 10 more seals coming from
CHRIS.

Demand is climbing as winter approaches.

Joe Alexander





-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Tetterton <Tr3a58 at verizon.net>
To: cwe <cwe at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 9:58 am
Subject: [CWE] TR4 rear oil seal

I was wondering if any in the group had experience with the new style rubber
oil
seal. I am
building a street motor and am thinking about trying it. Anyone put one in
that
has put any
major miles on it yet. If so how is it working and how many miles do you think
you have on it.

 I like the idea but am curious if it stays in place. I suppose it stays in as
well as any other
pressed in seal.

Dean


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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Sep 29 21:25:05 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:25:05 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Message-ID: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

mjb.

From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep 29 23:18:42 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:18:42 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Message-ID: <mailman.4.1317359948.19530.fot@autox.team.net>

Then there is the other side of the coin. That maybe your lead-footed experience as a race car driver is what got you airborne...and flying like an airplane.
 Glad your OK.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Sent: Sep 29, 2011 10:25 PM

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Sep 30 00:48:11 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:48:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
In-Reply-To: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
References: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <20110930064839.B4787187876@autox.team.net>

Dang!  Glad you're OK!

Tony

At 10:25 PM 9/29/2011, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123
>
>mjb.

From rjl6n at cstone.net  Fri Sep 30 05:20:23 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:20:23 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
In-Reply-To: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
References: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <82444d0f891d57d2b6e87ce3b06cfd70.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

	Wow, glad to hear that you made it through OK.


	 


	John


	 


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	> http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

	>

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From jsclark at live.ca  Fri Sep 30 10:57:05 2011
From: jsclark at live.ca (Jeff Clark)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:57:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
In-Reply-To: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
References: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <BLU158-W469020107D3B132E1D1500AEF70@phx.gbl>

I strongly agree with the statement you make about experience behind the wheel
of a race car. I have had my licence for two years now and only have 5 races
to my credit and remember when I took my race school making a comment to my
instructor that everyone on the road should have this kind of training even if
they never get behind the wheel of a race car. I saw an episode of Top Gear
once that did a piece on new drivers in Switzerland( I think) It takes three
months to get a drivers licence after a training coarse including time spent
on a skid pad
Jeff Clark
'71 Triumph GT6


> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:25:05 -0600
> From: mark at bradakis.com
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> Subject: [Fot] Close call!
>
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From markvaden at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 11:54:34 2011
From: markvaden at gmail.com (Mark Vaden)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:54:34 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
Message-ID: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety issue
to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the
IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend new
axles as well?

Thank in advance,
Mark

From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Sep 30 12:59:46 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:59:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
Message-ID: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Sep 30 13:54:57 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:54:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
In-Reply-To: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F0346C7@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

I put these on my car and after making room for them in my trailing arms and
finding suitable hex drive cap screws for the axle mounting I've had many
years or trouble free racing.

http://www.cambridgemotorsport.com/TR6-TR56-Transmission

I think Richard Good sells something very similar now and they are more
affordable.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Vaden
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 12:55 PM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles

Hi All,

I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering about
axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety issue to have
the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the IRS cars,
is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend new axles as
well?

Thank in advance,
Mark
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Fri Sep 30 14:36:40 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:36:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
References: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16741771F6444D589F265D7E56253EBE@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi Gang, I've only been playing with Triumphs for 6 years or so, but I've 
read a lot and talked to a lot of folks during that time. Including reading 
Kas' books.
"In the day" by what I recall, Kas replaced the hubs every 2 or 3 races. I 
don't know how often the axles were replaced. Kas?
I know that the hubs are very suspect; they broke a lot. Not sure about the 
axles.
I went with Richard's hubs a while back. I still use stock axles, with the 
uprated U-joints, and have had no problems. And am making much more power 
now. Just make sure the splines are good and keep them greased.
New hubs are a must; how much cash you have to spend may influence the axle 
purchase!
Good luck,
Bill Tobin TR6 (knocked another 10 seconds off my lap times at the Glen 3 
weeks ago!)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Vaden" <markvaden at gmail.com>
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:54 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles


> Hi All,
>
> I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
> about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety 
> issue
> to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the
> IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend 
> new
> axles as well?
>
> Thank in advance,
> Mark
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Sep 30 15:05:59 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:05:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4DCBE34DCD5B-3178-23B21@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>

 Indeed, Glade is one of us...a real character.  I lost track of him.

Nice going Jason.....geterdun.





-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership


Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
_______________________________________________
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Fri Sep 30 15:09:00 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:09:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001301cc7fb5$2ce07f20$86a17d60$@rogers.com>

I'll second that, welcome Glade

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: September 30, 2011 3:00 PM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s Production
class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4 decades. His
Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

http://www.fot-racing.com

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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Fri Sep 30 15:12:58 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109301712300.14151@isis.mit.edu>

SECOND!!

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From vintage.racer at comcast.net  Fri Sep 30 15:17:18 2011
From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 21:17:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Seat Covers
Message-ID: <1025202927.29479.1317417438185.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

FOT: 

When I acquired my 1969 TR6 a few years ago the interior had been replaced including the seat covers. Very nice except, the seat covers are not perforated thereby not allowing air to circulate. As a result, my back can get sweaty on longer drivers. Has anyone found a good. ventilated seat cover (mesh, bamboo slats, etc) that lays on top of the seat? My seats have the attached head rests. Thanks. 

Gary 

From jerrybarr at charter.net  Fri Sep 30 15:29:10 2011
From: jerrybarr at charter.net (Jerry Barr)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:29:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79522538-21BA-4017-95A4-FE5648874E76@charter.net>

Glade Snodgrass!!?? Are you kidding me? You betcha, he will be a great
addition to our group. Second
On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> Greetings Friends,
> An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
> slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
> He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
> For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.
>
> I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
> exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
> of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
> He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
> time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.
>
> I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
> I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
> playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.
>
> So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
> He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
> Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
> decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
> A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced
many
> defeats in these cars.
> I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
> tight budget.
> In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
> Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
> He would be a good addition to our group.
>
> His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
> 4everglades at comcast.net
>
> Thank You,
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
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From Catpusher at aol.com  Fri Sep 30 15:42:16 2011
From: Catpusher at aol.com (Catpusher at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:42:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Subject:Re:  Close call!
Message-ID: <40652.622ea4e8.3bb791b8@aol.com>

Mark,
 
We are relieved that you had a safe landing; nasty just reading about  it.
I was always better at takeoffs than landings with "The Device".
 
TR Regards,
 
Hardy
 
 
In a message dated 9/30/2011 12:40:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
fot-request at autox.team.net writes:

From:  Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
To: FoT Triumph  <fot at autox.team.net>,  British Motor Club
<bmcu at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Message-ID:  <4E853691.9060207 at bradakis.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=ISO-8859-1;  format=flowed

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

mjb.

From riverside at southslope.net  Fri Sep 30 15:48:11 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:48:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31B7DEFA87DE41D7AE021CF8BDBE4264@rileyPC>

nomination seconded!

art de armond

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:59 PM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

http://www.fot-racing.com

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From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Sep 30 16:06:20 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:06:20 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4A IRS rear axles
Message-ID: <2EC94EED-A6D9-4B4A-9EAE-32FFAE1C59DF@aol.com>

Mark,

Not sure I know what you mean by "new hubs". The issue with the IRS  
hub is that the stub axle can't stand up to the stresses we put on  
them racing. When it fails, the wheel departs. Has happened to me and  
many others. A newly rebuilt TR hub doesn't solve the design problem.  
Several of us have adapted 240Z stub axles to the TR hub carrier.  
Richard Good sells a redesigned hub. The sliding axles aren't the  
weakest link, but Goodparts has an uprated axle design, too.

I wouldn't race (again) on the OEM hub. As others have said, it's not  
a matter of IF, just WHEN.

John Frymark

From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Sep 30 16:09:22 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:09:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402684667@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Second!  I've been trying to get Glade to join the FOT for years.  I
wonder why he thought it was so mysterious??

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:00 PM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed"
group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long
process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a
long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny
because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in
4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced
many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on
a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the
excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Fri Sep 30 17:04:40 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:04:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
In-Reply-To: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1794830870.208885.1317423880791.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I don't think there is anything wrong with the stock axles. Some have said you
can get spline lock

but it's never happened to me. I kept them well greased. Maybe more of a
problem with the TR6.

The hubs for sure should be replaced.

It's a single point failure that could destroy the car. Ask Tony about
throwing a rear wheel at speed.

I was more worried about trapping one in the wheel well.B 

I went for the whole hub & CV conversion which is pure artwork and an easy
installation.



jim g





----- Original Message -----


From: "Mark Vaden" <markvaden at gmail.com>
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:54:34 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles

Hi All,

I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety issue
to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the
IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend new
axles as well?

Thank in advance,
Mark
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From kaskas at cox.net  Fri Sep 30 17:15:38 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:15:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
In-Reply-To: <16741771F6444D589F265D7E56253EBE@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>,
	<16741771F6444D589F265D7E56253EBE@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W40332C555F1D5A0BA65AC7DFF70@phx.gbl>

Interesting your comment about the replacment parts.  It was not hubs that I
replaced every 3 races, but the axles.  It was the axles that we broke. But
knowing what I know and most racers know NOW, replace both. Same with the
front hubs. I remember trying to get the SCCA to agree to allow the aluminum
hubs on the front , but they would not go for the "saftey" part of the
regulations. Just for once it was straight with no hidden agendas. Oh well.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net
> To: markvaden at gmail.com; fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:36:40 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
>
> Hi Gang, I've only been playing with Triumphs for 6 years or so, but I've
> read a lot and talked to a lot of folks during that time. Including reading
> Kas' books.
> "In the day" by what I recall, Kas replaced the hubs every 2 or 3 races. I
> don't know how often the axles were replaced. Kas?
> I know that the hubs are very suspect; they broke a lot. Not sure about the
> axles.
> I went with Richard's hubs a while back. I still use stock axles, with the
> uprated U-joints, and have had no problems. And am making much more power
> now. Just make sure the splines are good and keep them greased.
> New hubs are a must; how much cash you have to spend may influence the axle
> purchase!
> Good luck,
> Bill Tobin TR6 (knocked another 10 seconds off my lap times at the Glen 3
> weeks ago!)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Vaden" <markvaden at gmail.com>
> To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:54 PM
> Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
> > about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety
> > issue
> > to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On
the
> > IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend
> > new
> > axles as well?
> >
> > Thank in advance,
> > Mark
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep  1 05:17:13 2011
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 07:17:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dean Tetterton
Message-ID: <E132B6DD7C2C4D2F8CC8E70E195A522B@userb38463fba5>

I'd like to get in touch with Dean.

Dean I'd like to have your e-mail address so we can discuss your A/C set up in
your TR6. We talked about it at the TRF SP.

Thanks,
Jerry Van Vlack


From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  1 06:23:47 2011
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:23:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <8CE361CCB55A158-125C-24042@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Duck is at:
 
Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083
 
920-451-5000
 
I was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.
 
Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11, n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From: n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM


....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Thu Sep  1 06:27:07 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:27:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FOT
In-Reply-To: <4E5EEC14.5030700@gt-classics.com>
References: <00ae01cc673f$b452af20$1cf80d60$@com>
	<00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
	<4E5EEC14.5030700@gt-classics.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F011703@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

I'll second it. I should have nominated him a long time ago. He's been coming
to CVAR races and scratching his itch. He also is a part of the Sherlock
Homeboyz Lemon's TR6 effort and dose a real nice job driving.  He just needs a
race car to get started..

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of R. John Lye
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:21 PM
To: MORDY DUNST
Cc: Dustin Nicholson; FOT
Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT

I'll nominate Dustin for membership, although I haven't seen him for a few
years, he's a good one and will learn a lot from this bunch (some of which his
father would probably prefer that he not learn! :-) ).

John Lye

On 8/31/2011 12:01 AM, MORDY DUNST wrote:
> Dustin:
>
> I will post this on the FOT email site.  You may get a response from
> some local folks.
>
> good luck racing...
>
> Mordy
>
> M.N.Dunst
> Gasket Works USA, LLC
> www.Headgasket.com
> 626.358.1616 ph1
> 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
>
> Triple R Munitions, Inc.
> Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
> 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
> GMT-8 Pacific
>
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Dustin Nicholson
>    To: gasket.works at gte.net
>    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM
>    Subject: FOT
>
>
>    Hi, I'm a long time follower of FOT from the outside.  I've got
> several friends (mostly in Texas) that race Triumphs in CVAR and I'm
> looking to get into it myself.  For the last 15 years I have had stock
> spitfires and have autocrossed them at VTR conventions and I have done
> a 24 hours of LeMons in a TR6, but am now ready to get a real race
> car.  Can you help me find a beginner racing Triumph?  I'd really like to
become a  member of FOT, how do I do that?
> I understand y'all have an email group that I'd like to be a part of.
>
>
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Dustin Nicholson
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep  1 07:37:05 2011
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (jerryvv at roadrunner.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 9:37:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dean Tetterton
Message-ID: <20110901133705.CZXRH.230658.root@hrndva-web12-z02>

Thanks to all, I've heard from Dean and yes he's been dealing with Hurricane issues.
JVV


From trdoctor at aol.com  Thu Sep  1 08:50:20 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:50:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT NOMINATION
In-Reply-To: <mailman.41026.1314880044.3301.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.41026.1314880044.3301.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <E97B03AD-8650-43EA-A730-C7EA25FAE15D@aol.com>

I will second the nomination.  I have known Dustin for a number of years and
he is a fine young man.  His mom, Louise, and step father, Don Carter are
fixtures in the Houston club and pretty hot shoes in their own right.

Sam Clark
Green Country Triumphs

On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:27 AM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> I'll nominate Dustin for membership, although I haven't seen him
> for a few years, he's a good one and will learn a lot from this
> bunch (some of which his father would probably prefer that he
> not learn! :-) ).
>
> John Lye


From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep  1 09:14:35 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 08:14:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1314890075.19057.YahooMailRC@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

anybody have a clue as to why?????  

why he is in the hospital that is ...
just to avoid some of the s.a.  comments 
that someone like me might make ...
 
Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white
spitfire




________________________________
From: Ernest Husmann
<ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net; n197tr4 at cs.com
Cc: Scott Barr
<sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, September 1, 2011 7:23:47 AM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....

Duck is at:

Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical
Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083

920-451-5000

I
was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so
I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.

Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11,
n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From: n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date:
Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM


....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.
Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well
as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the
North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure
as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at
ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that
it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard
about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at
VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep  1 09:24:31 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:24:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <1314890075.19057.YahooMailRC@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1314890075.19057.YahooMailRC@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CE36D2607F280D-2728-36EC1@webmail-m138.sysops.aol.com>

right now there is no big mystery....just privacy issues and pending results.

joe a.








-----Original Message-----
From: tom strange <tstrange at sbcglobal.net>
To: Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>; n197tr4
<n197tr4 at cs.com>
Cc: Scott Barr <sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 10:14 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....




anybody have a clue as to why?????

why he is in the hospital that is ... just to avoid some of the s.a.  comments
that someone like me might make ...

Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire





From: Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net; n197tr4 at cs.com
Cc: Scott Barr <sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, September 1, 2011 7:23:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....

Duck is at:

Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083

920-451-5000

I was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.

Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11, n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From: n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM


....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Thu Sep  1 09:32:51 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:32:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
Message-ID: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>

My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this before)


From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Sep  1 09:51:59 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 11:51:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D92ECCEB-6145-4CEA-BE0A-4F8D69CC6388@me.com>

Perhaps the pin holding the throw-out bearing fork to the cross-shaft is broken, loose or the hole in the shaft is egged out.  Unfortunately, this requires pulling the trans to find out.  These pins usually shear off when you try to unscrew them.  Ask me how I know . . . 

On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:

My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this before)
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Sep  1 09:56:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:56:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003501cc68bf$bce68d10$36b3a730$@com>

I suppose your pin at the cross shaft broke.
To relieve the ring from its load I added a steel pin through that shaft.
See the photo:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/B1ksv9fAbRKpgnZs3xDKkg?feat=directlink

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Henry Morrison
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. September 2011 17:33
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me

My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this
before)
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Thu Sep  1 11:39:41 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:39:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <09E5FDF6743E4CCC9E4E3DDF506F798C@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi list, I agree with Scott and Chris as to the taper pin holding the fork 
to the cross shaft being the culprit.
Another wear point is the pins that actually hold the T/O brg to the fork; 
they can wear flat and cause problems. A quick and effective fix is to grab 
the pins with Channel locks and turn them half way around (they are just 
pressed in) and you have a new pin surface. Or just buy new ones. PN 100164 
from TRF; $2.50 ea. NFI.
If the taper pin is broken off in the cross shaft it can be a PITA to get 
out. PN 158777 $12. Always good to reinforce the fork when you have it 
apart. (I know of one that is welded!) Chris' idea is very good.
The cross shaft bushings are also replacable.
Good luck.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:32 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me


> My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. 
> but
> most of the time not.
>
> Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.
>
> If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
> crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.
>
> Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.
>
> My desperate attempts to fix this include...................
>
> replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed 
> cylinder
> backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
> adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.
>
> The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the 
> pressure
> plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
> bearing was NOS.
>
> I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm 
> just
> not hard enough on the clutch.
>
> Thank you in advande for your insights..........
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this 
> before)
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Thu Sep  1 11:57:12 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:57:12 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <AB3005DF-DC3D-43EF-9536-DB0923004AF9@me.com>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>,
	<AB3005DF-DC3D-43EF-9536-DB0923004AF9@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W179A8BA95578D284ECCCB790190@phx.gbl>

Thank you for all the replies and suggestions.

Here's my run down,

The slave is installed with the bleed screw up.

I just rebuilt the engine and have checked for crankshaft float with a pry bar
and by stepping on the clutch running and not.

I replaced the pin on the throw out bearing pivot cross rod etc.

Haven't gone 400 miles since doing all this.

The concensus of the group and what I was fearing is, this Saturday morning
I'll get to take out the transmission and look at what's gong on in the guts
of the thing.............I'll report back on my measurements, calculations and
other findings as long as they make me look very intelligent.   Cheers Henry



From: sjanzen at me.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:24:18 -0400
To: dos_gusanos at msn.com


by the way, this is a tapered pin and tapered hole in the shaft, to add to the
complication of drilling out the old rusted piece.



On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:
My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this before)
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 12:52:12 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:52:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0F73CEE0-98DF-41E3-9E3A-C23FFA0803D6@gmail.com>

Henry,
I have a slave cylinder on a Morgan Plus 8 that's installed with the bleeder
nipple at a poor angle and I found that it worked best if I bled it first and
then mounted it.  Is that an option?

Also -- you mentioned that yours is a mix 'n match setup, so I wonder if you
simply don't have enough travel on the slave cylinder's pushrod.  You might
look into using a larger bore master cylinder so that you move more fluid per
inch of stroke.  Pedal effort will go up somewhat.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 red #6
On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:

> My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally.
but
> most of the time not.
>
> Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.
>
> If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
> crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.
>
> Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.
>
> My desperate attempts to fix this include...................
>
> replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed
cylinder
> backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
> adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.
>
> The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the
pressure
> plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
> bearing was NOS.
>
> I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
> not hard enough on the clutch.
>
> Thank you in advande for your insights..........
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this
before)
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep  1 15:36:55 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:36:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CE3706676378ED-156C-29CBD@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com>

Duck is feeling much better now.

Back to RA today or tomorrow.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>; n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Cc: Scott Barr <sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 7:23 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....




Duck is at:

Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083

920-451-5000

I was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.

Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11, n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Thu Sep  1 19:09:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:09:29 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
Message-ID: <103C8F47-9CE1-4DBD-8BB7-0402BA570889@aol.com>

Amici
The flags have arrived!  Unfortunately I have not seen them only because I am
off galavanting with the wife doing the honeymoon thing. As soon as I get back
I will be shipping them out. That should be around September 12.

If you haven't ordered one yet I will have extras.

If you haven't ordered a grill badge, I have them also. $30 each, shipping
included.

Thanks


From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep  1 19:45:11 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 01:45:11 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
Message-ID: <mailman.39.1638251572.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

Honeymoon??!!
Shouldn't you be doing more important things than emailing your buddys about these stupid flags? Get busy. Enjoy it while it lasts! CONGRADULATIONS!!!
------Original Message------
From: Christopher Bock
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: FoTTriumph
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
Sent: Sep 1, 2011 8:09 PM

Amici
The flags have arrived!  Unfortunately I have not seen them only because I am
off galavanting with the wife doing the honeymoon thing. As soon as I get back
I will be shipping them out. That should be around September 12.

If you haven't ordered one yet I will have extras.

If you haven't ordered a grill badge, I have them also. $30 each, shipping
included.

Thanks
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Thu Sep  1 22:45:04 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:45:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
In-Reply-To: <1766844121-1314927912-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-530974992-@b26.c3.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1766844121-1314927912-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-530974992-@b26.c3.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <50159694-570D-49E5-8720-DAC63EAB543D@aol.com>

Hey
I am getting busy.  I just needed a break.
Thanks I will enjoy it



On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:45 PM, jason at multivintage.com wrote:

> Honeymoon??!!
> Shouldn't you be doing more important things than emailing your buddys about
these stupid flags? Get busy. Enjoy it while it lasts! CONGRADULATIONS!!!
> ------Original Message------
> From: Christopher Bock
> Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: FoTTriumph
> Subject: [Fot] Flags!
> Sent: Sep 1, 2011 8:09 PM
>
> Amici
> The flags have arrived!  Unfortunately I have not seen them only because I
am
> off galavanting with the wife doing the honeymoon thing. As soon as I get
back
> I will be shipping them out. That should be around September 12.
>
> If you haven't ordered one yet I will have extras.
>
> If you haven't ordered a grill badge, I have them also. $30 each, shipping
> included.
>
> Thanks
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From gaf3 at charter.net  Fri Sep  2 12:13:03 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:13:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
Message-ID: <4E611CAF.7080902@charter.net>

Group
Does anyone out there have the proper dimension for valve installed 
height for a later model 1974 TR6 engine.
This is the dimension between the valve spring retainer and head.
I remember finding this for my Spit Race car engine but can't seem to 
locate it for the TR6.
I just finished up a 3 angle valve job on a customers car and I would 
like to assemble it with the proper shims but can't seem to locate the 
right dimension.
Currently the height after machining it is 1.250".
My machine shop can't find the dimension either.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Glenn Franco


From capecoventryracing at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 12:13:55 2011
From: capecoventryracing at gmail.com (John Nikas)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:13:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 9th Annual Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <CACWViu87cijxSEGhGFS5Z2i6hk83Py4vCSOsRHwUc-9z-ESeBw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all. I've posted pictures from the Kastner Cup on my Facebook page
including professional shots of the cars on the corkscrew. If you search
Cape Coventry on Facebook you should find them all.

-- 
Very truly yours,

John Nikas
Cape Coventry Racing
www.capecoventryracing.com
(949) 375-6306


From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 12:53:30 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is yours????
Message-ID: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>

I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
extension off my TR4....................

Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM


From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 14:37:15 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:37:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
 yours????
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>

Never mind, I figured out this extension is for my TR4................Cheers
Henry


> From: dos_gusanos at msn.com
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
> Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????
>
> I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
> extension off my TR4....................
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM
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From chasgee at aol.com  Fri Sep  2 16:30:20 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:30:20 -0700
Subject: [Fot]
 =?utf-8?q?My_TR3_fan_extension_is_4=2E7_inches_long_How_lon?=
 =?utf-8?b?ZyBpcyB5b3VycyA/Pz8/?=
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
	<SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0ab7d21d-5586-4311-b95a-c59c08dd213b@blur>

I knew you just wanted to brag...

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 21:03:18 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is  
yours????

Never mind, I figured out this extension is for my TR4................Cheers
Henry


> From: dos_gusanos at msn.com
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
> Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????
>
> I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
> extension off my TR4....................
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 16:38:36 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:38:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
 yours????
In-Reply-To: <0ab7d21d-5586-4311-b95a-c59c08dd213b@blur>
References: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
	<SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>,
	<0ab7d21d-5586-4311-b95a-c59c08dd213b@blur>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W420CF9D4AE69A0663EBB5590180@phx.gbl>

Well OK, check out my webcam.................




From: chasgee at aol.com
To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:30:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????





I knew you just wanted to brag...

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-----Original message-----


From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 21:03:18 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????

Never mind, I figured out this extension is for my TR4................Cheers
Henry


> From: dos_gusanos at msn.com
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
> Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????
>
> I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
> extension off my TR4....................
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM
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From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Fri Sep  2 16:37:37 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob Davis)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:37:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction
In-Reply-To: <00be01cc6792$e290d350$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
References: <00be01cc6792$e290d350$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
Message-ID: <4E615AB1.9010100@cfl.rr.com>

Not far from me so I will be there to have a look and possibly bid if it 
is a decent one.

Bob

On 8/31/11 12:03 AM, MORDY DUNST wrote:
> I am forwarding this information the group.
>
> NFI...
>
> Mordy
>
> M.N.Dunst
> Gasket Works USA, LLC
> www.Headgasket.com
> 626.358.1616 ph1
> 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
>
> Triple R Munitions, Inc.
> Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
> 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
> GMT-8 Pacific
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shuler Auctions
> To: gasket.works at gte.net
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:16 PM
> Subject: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction
>
>
> We will be Auctioning a 1968 TR250 on Sept 18th at Public Auction in
> Titusville, Florida.  Do you have a place that we can post this info?
>
> Thank You,
> Debbie Shuler AU#3756
> Cliff Shuler Auctioneers&  Liquidators, Inc. AB#9/AU#14
> Shuler&  Shuler Real Estate Auctioneers, Inc.
> Secretary/Treasurer Florida Auctioneers Association
> 422 Julia St., Titusville, FL 32796
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Sep  3 07:28:59 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:28:59 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
Message-ID: <001701cc6a3d$72330f80$56992e80$@com>

I've just heard that the professional racing driver Volker Strycek will enter
our race in a TR4:
http://en.wikipedia..../Volker_Strycek


That will make it difficult for me to be somewhere on front.

Cheers
Chris


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Sep  3 07:31:25 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:31:25 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain> 
Message-ID: <001801cc6a3d$c84bec70$58e3c550$@com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volker_Strycek


-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: MadMarx [mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. September 2011 15:29
An: 'fot at autox.team.net'
Betreff: AW: AW: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace

I've just heard that the professional racing driver Volker Strycek will enter
our race in a TR4:
http://en.wikipedia..../Volker_Strycek


That will make it difficult for me to be somewhere on front.

Cheers
Chris


From gaf3 at charter.net  Sat Sep  3 14:03:53 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:03:53 -0400
Subject: [Fot] [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
In-Reply-To: <COL123-DS49D2E18E6474717D763C8F41B0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL123-DS49D2E18E6474717D763C8F41B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E628829.9080809@charter.net>

Dick
I do all of my head work including refacing valves, seats and guides.
When you reface the valves and seats the valve sits slightly lower in 
the seat.
That allows the valve stem to protrude further out of the head. That 
lessens the valve spring tension.
These are washers that fit below the valve spring to regain correct 
spring height.
The manual gives spring free height which means almost nothing except if 
you should discard or not.
New or reusable springs have to be set to a certain height to regain 
proper tension.
So far I have received nothing but dead air on this.
I can't believe I'm the only one out there that does their own head work.
Thanks for your interest
Glenn
On 9/3/2011 2:58 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor wrote:
> Where would you place these shims? Under the rocker pedestals? Under the valve springs?
>
> Dick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Franco
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 1:34 PM
> To: Sally or Dick Taylor
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
>
> Dick - That's the first thing I referred to, the Kaz's booklets and then
> some TR6 Resto Guides. No one has that detail I guess.
>           Anyway I ordered some .060" VSI's .
> Thanks Glenn
>
> On 9/2/2011 3:07 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor wrote:
>> Glenn---My Bentley manual is not handy at this time, but I think the dimension you are looking for could be included in the valve pages in this book.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Glenn Franco
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 11:13 AM
>> To: Friends of triumph, 6pack at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
>>
>> Group
>> Does anyone out there have the proper dimension for valve installed
>> height for a later model 1974 TR6 engine.
>> This is the dimension between the valve spring retainer and head.
>> I remember finding this for my Spit Race car engine but can't seem to
>> locate it for the TR6.
>> I just finished up a 3 angle valve job on a customers car and I would
>> like to assemble it with the proper shims but can't seem to locate the
>> right dimension.
>> Currently the height after machining it is 1.250".
>> My machine shop can't find the dimension either.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> Glenn Franco
>>
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>>
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sat Sep  3 15:02:47 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:02:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
In-Reply-To: <4E628829.9080809@charter.net>
References: <COL123-DS49D2E18E6474717D763C8F41B0@phx.gbl>
	<4E628829.9080809@charter.net>
Message-ID: <0a5b01cc6a7c$d5dad880$0301a8c0@randall>

> New or reusable springs have to be set to a certain height to regain 
> proper tension.

Actually, the proper procedure is to measure the installed tension and then
install shims as necessary.  The installed tension is given in the workshop
manual.

If you have ground the seats enough to cause spring tension problems, you're
also losing power from reduced breathing (the pocketing reduces effective
cam lift and timing).  The usual solution is either oversize valves, or new
seats.

-- Randall  


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Sep  4 03:12:59 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:12:59 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain> 
Message-ID: <000001cc6ae2$d9079e10$8b16da30$@com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volker_Strycek


-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: MadMarx [mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. September 2011 15:29
An: 'fot at autox.team.net'
Betreff: AW: AW: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace

I've just heard that the professional racing driver Volker Strycek will enter
our race in a TR4:
http://en.wikipedia..../Volker_Strycek


That will make it difficult for me to be somewhere on front.

Cheers
Chris


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Sep  4 09:57:43 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:57:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hastings and RMVR/HVR
Message-ID: <8CE393283C7262E-1F0C-422AF@Webmail-m118.sysops.aol.com>

Hasting's MPH track is absolutely brilliant for our purposes this weekend.

great facilities.
great weather
great people
affordable

three generations of Alexander's and add in cousins and their offspring.
everyone playing well with each other and car running great.

Jim Gray and Dan Forgey our FOT hosts along with a TR3 and a Spitfire.

Life is very good.

Wish everyone could go everywhere all of the time.....this one is a good one
for us.

Regards,

Joe A.


From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sun Sep  4 10:28:42 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:28:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] interesting comparison of speeds...
Message-ID: <001a01cc6b1f$b6143e80$223cbb80$@rogers.com>

Interesting comparison between GT racers and F1:

 

http://www.brainblog.to/item/2011/09/geschwindigkeitsvergleich-gt-vs-formel1


From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sun Sep  4 21:39:22 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 21:39:22 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>

Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..

http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>

Kevin, Colo.


From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Sep  4 22:07:40 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 21:07:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>

thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop area..the 
horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for me to find 
out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3 hours ago..they 
live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to go if 
evacuated.....
it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
Thanks
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com>
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires


> Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
>
> http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
> tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
>
> Kevin, Colo.
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sun Sep  4 23:12:35 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:12:35 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds15A15477D67AB7AF536465B71D0@phx.gbl>

I 'think' what's adding to the problem Bud is it's a Nat'l holiday, so the
news agencies our on a skeleton crew so  folks that r packed & ready but
aren't able to view/read the latest intel, are afraid to fall asleep.
Last but not least, the area affected is so big.  The larger of these burns is
currently 100 miles square.
And with N. winds at 15-20... it 'could' be the 'big one' they were afraid of
-  hope not.
Kev
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: RACER BUD<mailto:budscars at comcast.net>
  To: KEVIN LYNCH<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com> ; FOT<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


  thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop area..the
  horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for me to find
  out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3 hours ago..they
  live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to go if
  evacuated.....
  it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
  Thanks
  Racer Bud
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>>
  To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
  Subject: [Fot] TX. fires


  > Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
  >
  >
http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
<http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/%3
Cht>
  > tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
  >
  > Kevin, Colo.
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Mon Sep  5 07:04:36 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 07:04:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <34032906-15DB-4B4F-89D2-8FAAF2E0DC2E@me.com>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>,
	<AB3005DF-DC3D-43EF-9536-DB0923004AF9@me.com>,
	<SNT134-W179A8BA95578D284ECCCB790190@phx.gbl>,
	<34032906-15DB-4B4F-89D2-8FAAF2E0DC2E@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W12EDECD041EED4D90A4E28901D0@phx.gbl>

Thanks again to everyone who reply to my cry for help.  The brain storming
session really helped.  Here's how it all went down.  I took everything apart
and was concerned about the cltch fork so I cross drilled it for the hell of
it and turned the little pegs, and threw enough of it all back together for a
running test.  Those two things didn't do it.  So I tore it apart, spent an
hour rounding up six .075" thick washers and placed them between the pressure
plate and the flywheel.  Now the car feels like it has a crappy old clutch in
it again.  But will it all fly apart?  Should I have used the .055" thick
washers?

On a happy note I hooked up with two TR4 buddies working on clutches yesterday
and we all drove our cars and got a beer, grease and all.


Cheers,  Henry Morrison,

Cedar Crest, NM


From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 07:32:17 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:32:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  TX. fires
References: <C402D6E1-FF5A-4916-85DC-FEF4BA9AF86E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7DD6A03B-BB4B-4ECE-B67D-4D0B2E6E5113@gmail.com>

We're about five or six miles west of the one that started up in Bastrop
yesterday.  300 homes lost as of the evening news time and the fire was 16
miles long and six miles wide, but zero percent contained.  Winds did not drop
much last night and will be back up today to 20 mph, no doubt with gusts
around 30 or better (44 mph noted at the Austin airport yesterday and we saw
30 here at the house).  This is courtesy of what's left of tropical storm Lee
(we're unfortunately on the dry side).  Although the cold front that came
through last night should bring cooler temperatures (yesterday was the 80th
100+F day this year, setting a new record) the humidity is expected to drop a
lot, which is really bad news for the firefighters.  We're in the worst
drought year ever recorded here (not the longest drought by far but it is the
most acute) so standing trees are turning brown.  At least half of Bastrop
State Park (Lost Pines) is burned up.   Holiday weekend means lots of human
activity involving outdoor cooking and alcohol + high winds + high
temperatures + low humidity = huge chance of fires.  We heard that fires were
moving at 40 mph during the afternoon.  Firefighters had to concentrate on
evacuating, not putting out fires.  We had seen a thunderhead building to our
east so we looked at the radar and noted a very strange rain pattern, starting
from a pinpoint at the north end and spreading southward for many miles.  The
fire had already jumped the Colorado River by then.  Strange in that it looked
just like a smoke plume starting from a pinpoint source.  I didn't realize it
would show up on radar as a rain shower if severe enough.  The cumulus clouds
were being pushed up by the rapid heat production of the fire.  It's still
hard to get much information about what's going on.  We do know that highway
71 through Bastrop is still closed this morning but hopefully the other roads
towards Houston are open now.

The sad thing is that this is just one of many fires in the area (there's a
pretty big one not far from Lakeway). The fact that there's a holiday means
more human activity away from concentrated work places, and therefore more
chances of new fires today.  That and rubberneckers going into evacuated
areas.  It's going to be an interesting day.  We have all our hoses and
sprinklers set out and the spray tank is on the tractor to give us a little
edge if it comes here.  We're out in the open and the cows and horses have
eaten the grass down to nubs, so the main concern is the woods down by the
creek and the trees and bushes along the road, which are all turning brown.

Duncan
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red


From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  5 08:59:17 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 07:59:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  TX. fires
In-Reply-To: <7DD6A03B-BB4B-4ECE-B67D-4D0B2E6E5113@gmail.com>
References: <C402D6E1-FF5A-4916-85DC-FEF4BA9AF86E@gmail.com>
	<7DD6A03B-BB4B-4ECE-B67D-4D0B2E6E5113@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1315234757.18042.YahooMailRC@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I dont know what any of us at a distance could do to help, but our thoughts
are 
with all those in the area.  If there is something that the ones of us
far away 
could help with, dont forget to say so.
  That is what friends are
for....
 
Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4
white spitfire




________________________________
From: Duncan Charlton
<duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon,
September 5, 2011 8:32:17 AM
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TX. fires

We're about five
or six miles west of the one that started up in Bastrop
yesterday.  300 homes
lost as of the evening news time and the fire was 16
miles long and six miles
wide, but zero percent contained.  Winds did not drop
much last night and will
be back up today to 20 mph, no doubt with gusts
around 30 or better (44 mph
noted at the Austin airport yesterday and we saw
30 here at the house).  This
is courtesy of what's left of tropical storm Lee
(we're unfortunately on the
dry side).  Although the cold front that came
through last night should bring
cooler temperatures (yesterday was the 80th
100+F day this year, setting a new
record) the humidity is expected to drop a
lot, which is really bad news for
the firefighters.  We're in the worst
drought year ever recorded here (not the
longest drought by far but it is the
most acute) so standing trees are turning
brown.  At least half of Bastrop
State Park (Lost Pines) is burned up. 
Holiday weekend means lots of human
activity involving outdoor cooking and
alcohol + high winds + high
temperatures + low humidity = huge chance of
fires.  We heard that fires were
moving at 40 mph during the afternoon. 
Firefighters had to concentrate on
evacuating, not putting out fires.  We had
seen a thunderhead building to our
east so we looked at the radar and noted a
very strange rain pattern, starting
from a pinpoint at the north end and
spreading southward for many miles.  The
fire had already jumped the Colorado
River by then.  Strange in that it looked
just like a smoke plume starting
from a pinpoint source.  I didn't realize it
would show up on radar as a rain
shower if severe enough.  The cumulus clouds
were being pushed up by the rapid
heat production of the fire.  It's still
hard to get much information about
what's going on.  We do know that highway
71 through Bastrop is still closed
this morning but hopefully the other roads
towards Houston are open now.

The
sad thing is that this is just one of many fires in the area (there's a
pretty
big one not far from Lakeway). The fact that there's a holiday means
more
human activity away from concentrated work places, and therefore more
chances
of new fires today.  That and rubberneckers going into evacuated
areas.  It's
going to be an interesting day.  We have all our hoses and
sprinklers set out
and the spray tank is on the tractor to give us a little
edge if it comes
here.  We're out in the open and the cows and horses have
eaten the grass down
to nubs, so the main concern is the woods down by the
creek and the trees and
bushes along the road, which are all turning brown.

Duncan
1952 Morgan Plus 4
#6 red
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From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com  Mon Sep  5 10:31:46 2011
From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:31:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
Message-ID: <A015507B320545E68E8A189422CCB0D6@latitudefb1e41>

Lakway isn't far from the Steiner Ranch fire but I think the north wind will 
keep them out of the path. Volente is just a few miles north of the fire and 
Lakeway is to our west. We should be fine but if you want to keep up with 
the fires here's a couple of local news links:
http://www.kxan.com/
http://www.kvue.com/
http://austin.ynn.com/

If your folks need some help let us know.

Bob Kramer
Volente, TX

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch 
excellence.
Vince Lombardi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RACER BUD" <budscars at comcast.net>
To: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com>; "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


> thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop 
> area..the horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for 
> me to find out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3 
> hours ago..they live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to 
> go if evacuated.....
> it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
> Thanks
> Racer Bud
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com>
> To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
> Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
>
>
>> Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
>>
>> http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
>> tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
>>
>> Kevin, Colo.
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Mon Sep  5 11:57:08 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:57:08 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
	<A015507B320545E68E8A189422CCB0D6@latitudefb1e41>
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
	<A015507B320545E68E8A189422CCB0D6@latitudefb1e41>
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds17C4FAF8AE352A9C4D9BFEB71D0@phx.gbl>

Took me awhile, seems this site is used by all U.S. Incident Management Teams
& their command H.Q.'s .
I see it's based out of SLC, Utah.

http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/index.php<http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/ind
ex.php>

Kevin




----- Original Message -----
  From: Bob Kramer<mailto:rkramer3 at austin.rr.com>
  To: RACER BUD<mailto:budscars at comcast.net> ; KEVIN
LYNCH<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com> ; FOT<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


  Lakway isn't far from the Steiner Ranch fire but I think the north wind will
  keep them out of the path. Volente is just a few miles north of the fire and
  Lakeway is to our west. We should be fine but if you want to keep up with
  the fires here's a couple of local news links:
  http://www.kxan.com/<http://www.kxan.com/>
  http://www.kvue.com/<http://www.kvue.com/>
  http://austin.ynn.com/<http://austin.ynn.com/>

  If your folks need some help let us know.

  Bob Kramer
  Volente, TX

  Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch
  excellence.
  Vince Lombardi
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "RACER BUD" <budscars at comcast.net<mailto:budscars at comcast.net>>
  To: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>>; "FOT"
<fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


  > thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop
  > area..the horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for
  > me to find out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3
  > hours ago..they live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to
  > go if evacuated.....
  > it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
  > Thanks
  > Racer Bud
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>>
  > To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
  > Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
  >
  >
  >> Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
  >>
  >>
http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
<http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/%3
Cht>
  >>
tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
  >>
  >> Kevin, Colo.
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Sep  6 07:32:38 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:32:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
Message-ID: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>

http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
ctsheet.html 

.


From ac at camoletti.ch  Tue Sep  6 08:06:29 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:06:29 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>

Somebody asked the price?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de Paul MacDonald
Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33
@ : Fot
Objet : [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

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ctsheet.html

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Sep  6 10:06:41 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:06:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
	<002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>

Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

Somebody asked the price?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
[Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
ctsheet.html

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Sep  6 10:18:41 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:18:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
	<002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
	<000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <000701cc6cb0$a4a01420$ede03c60$@rogers.com>

Also, this is not the car which is owned by Bill Warner

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Paul MacDonald
Sent: September 6, 2011 12:07 PM
To: 'Alexandre Camoletti'; 'Fot'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.

Paul


From koblinger at verizon.net  Tue Sep  6 10:43:04 2011
From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:43:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
	<002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
	<000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <4E664D98.3000304@verizon.net>

I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.

Cheers,
Kurt O.

On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>
> Somebody asked the price?
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>
> http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
> ctsheet.html
>
> .
>
> =======


From horizonracing at msn.com  Tue Sep  6 11:50:09 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony & Annie Garmey)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:50:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>

I,m not :)

Kurt Oblinger <koblinger at verizon.net> wrote:

>I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.
>
>Cheers,
>Kurt O.
>
>On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
>> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
>> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
>> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
>> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>
>> Somebody asked the price?
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
>> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
>> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>
>> http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
>> ctsheet.html
>>
>> .
>>
>> =======
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From kaskas at cox.net  Tue Sep  6 13:30:59 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:30:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W164AB2569171688AA59800DF1C0@phx.gbl>

Seeing car in it's present condition makes me think that 10 times that amount
would not be enough to bring it to its present state. Greart job Tony and
thanks to the Hart folks.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:50:09 -0700
> From: horizonracing at msn.com
> To: koblinger at verizon.net; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>
> I,m not :)
>
> Kurt Oblinger <koblinger at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kurt O.
> >
> >On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
> >> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
> >> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
> >> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
> >> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
> >>
> >> Somebody asked the price?
> >>
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De
la
> >> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot
Objet :
> >> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
> >>
> >>
http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
> >> ctsheet.html
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> =======
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 14:22:45 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:22:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
Message-ID: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>

Amici...

Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?  
Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.

Bill Dentinger


From billb at bnj.com  Tue Sep  6 15:01:40 2011
From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:01:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <76514339-99D8-49C0-914F-11CE81E17AF9@bnj.com>

UmmmQuaife..as in Dog Box.

On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:

> Amici...
>
> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Sep  6 15:17:59 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:17:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <76514339-99D8-49C0-914F-11CE81E17AF9@bnj.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
	<76514339-99D8-49C0-914F-11CE81E17AF9@bnj.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109061717290.17579@isis.mit.edu>

On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Bill Babcock wrote:

> UmmmQuaife..as in Dog Box.

LIKE!!

rml
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From garygret at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep  6 17:03:41 2011
From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:03:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1315350221.23030.YahooMailRC@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bill,
John Esposito at Quantum Mechanics www.quantumechanics.com/ had decent synchros 
made a few years back, ISTR from the original petroglyphs of the ancient 
scribes. I've had them for a couple (short) seasons with no crunching. When 
rotated by hand on the cones they had noticeably more friction at less 
engagement depth than the Moss, TRFs or VicBrits I bought for comparison at the 
time, which seemed to go all the way onto the taper without much grab.

He also has steel bushings to replace the fragile tophats.

Regards,
Gary Schneider




________________________________
From: "BillDentin at aol.com" <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, September 6, 2011 3:22:45 PM
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...

Amici...

Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?  
Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Tue Sep  6 17:16:48 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:16:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000301cc6ceb$0e46b110$2ad41330$@com>

Contact Steve Yott at Silver Lake Triumphs in Silver Lake, Wisconsin. His
e-mail address is tr4 at wi.rr.com.


Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of BillDentin at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:23 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...

Amici...

Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?  
Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.

Bill Dentinger
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From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Tue Sep  6 19:14:26 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:14:26 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E66C572.4060604@blacksburg.net>

On 9/6/2011 4:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
> Amici...
>
> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>
>    
Bill, I bought a set from BFE a few years back, which have much more 
"grab" at less engagement than the usual culprits.  In fact, I had to 
lap them in slightly to make the gbx shift easier.  In short, spendy 
parts but well worth the $.

j

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go


From koblinger at verizon.net  Tue Sep  6 20:34:26 2011
From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:34:26 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E66D832.4050901@verizon.net>

Touche'

The TR250K has certainly found a good home. It's well cared for and 
exercised regularly for all of us to enjoy. But, hey! A guy can still dream!

Cheers,
Kurt O.

On 9/6/2011 10:50 AM, Tony & Annie Garmey wrote:
> I,m not :)
>
> Kurt Oblinger<koblinger at verizon.net>  wrote:
>
>> I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kurt O.
>>
>> On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
>>> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
>>> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
>>> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
>>> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>>
>>> Somebody asked the price?
>>>
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
>>> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
>>> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>>
>>> http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
>>> ctsheet.html
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> =======


From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com  Tue Sep  6 20:41:07 2011
From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:41:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com> <4E66C572.4060604@blacksburg.net>
Message-ID: <37CAB7500DBF4D1AB3B20E4EF983CA05@latitudefb1e41>

I bought some from Cambridge or Racetoratons a few years ago. They were made 
in Germany and were high quality and high dollar.

Don't forget to look through your spares for good, used OEM ones. The 
grooves on the inside cone are as important as the teeth.I've been able to 
put together a couple of good sets and in use they have worked better than 
the new ones the big three sell.

Bob Kramer
Volente, TX

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch 
excellence.
Vince Lombardi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.C. Hassall" <jhassall at blacksburg.net>
To: <BillDentin at aol.com>
Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny synchros...


> On 9/6/2011 4:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>> Amici...
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
>> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>>
>>
> Bill, I bought a set from BFE a few years back, which have much more 
> "grab" at less engagement than the usual culprits.  In fact, I had to lap 
> them in slightly to make the gbx shift easier.  In short, spendy parts but 
> well worth the $.
>
> j
>
> -- 
> Jim Hassall
> Blacksburg VA
> '63 TR4 in autox preparation
> 99% finished, 90% to go
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Wed Sep  7 17:07:52 2011
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:07:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <37CAB7500DBF4D1AB3B20E4EF983CA05@latitudefb1e41>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com> <4E66C572.4060604@blacksburg.net>
	<37CAB7500DBF4D1AB3B20E4EF983CA05@latitudefb1e41>
Message-ID: <4E67F948.5050705@pobox.com>

Don't throw away good OEM synchros.  I have rebuilt several trannies for 
local club members (Green Country Triumphs).  Most guys want new 
synchros, so if their old ones were still good, guess where they ended 
up (this was my only payment)?  The worst I've seen are the ones from 
Vicky Brit, the others seem comparable. I have found NOS on ebay.  I 
have not tried UK sources, BFE or Quantum.

The "don't throw away" advice also applies to other parts, e.g. OEM 
valve lifters.  It seems that the older the car, the more iffy the 
replacement parts become.
Larry

On 9/6/2011 9:41 PM, Bob Kramer wrote:
> I bought some from Cambridge or Racetoratons a few years ago. They 
> were made in Germany and were high quality and high dollar.
>
> Don't forget to look through your spares for good, used OEM ones. The 
> grooves on the inside cone are as important as the teeth.I've been 
> able to put together a couple of good sets and in use they have worked 
> better than the new ones the big three sell.
>
> Bob Kramer
> Volente, TX
>
> Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch 
> excellence.
> Vince Lombardi
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.C. Hassall" 
> <jhassall at blacksburg.net>
> To: <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
>
>
>> On 9/6/2011 4:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>>> Amici...
>>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
>>> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>> Bill, I bought a set from BFE a few years back, which have much more 
>> "grab" at less engagement than the usual culprits.  In fact, I had to 
>> lap them in slightly to make the gbx shift easier.  In short, spendy 
>> parts but well worth the $.
>>
>> j
>>
>> -- 
>> Jim Hassall
>> Blacksburg VA
>> '63 TR4 in autox preparation
>> 99% finished, 90% to go
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From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep  8 11:06:07 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:06:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Attention Midwest Triumph Racers!
Message-ID: <CALCydYoBk7kareiWxD3KGJ5X3XkqO4coOJOYrWsHNxJByDJk9w@mail.gmail.com>

Amici...
Greetings from Friendly Ghost Racing!

My Club is hosting a Midwestern Council event at Autobahn Country Club on
October 1-2, in Joliet IL. I am Chairperson for this event.
Saturday is a HSAX and Sunday is a Race.
Reasonable cost for racing or autosrossing at this somewhat exclusive and
beautiful facility. The racing is on the south track and is well suited for
any Triumph.
Anyone interested in Racing or Autocrossing, Email me and I will forward
entry information.
All Vintage and Club Racing sanctioning body members are welcome!
Vintage and Production classes for Racing.
Numerous High Speed Autocross Classes.

I will be awarding a special "Fastest Triumph Award" for any autocross or
racing entry.

Please consider attending this event.... My cooler is always full!

THANK YOU
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
FOT, MCSCC, NSSCC


From N197TR4 at cs.com  Fri Sep  9 08:10:41 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:10:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>

FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.

Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some very close and competitive racing among our 
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>


From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 14:17:15 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:17:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing National Chumpionship 25.5 hr. race report...
Message-ID: <1315599435.33627.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

We came, we raced...we did well...for a while.  This was the "National
Chumpionship" at Iowa Speedway, Newton IA.
 
Friday, Sept. 2 (practice):
Unfortunately, the initial trend (one of the first cars through the gate, one
of the first cars through tech, one of the first cars on the track for
testing) did not continue  

Spent most of the test time getting tire
pressures right and convincing me, who had never driven on an oval, that it
was ok to push through the turns. It was great seeing most teams for the first
time (and others again!) that we had seen on the forums and race reports but
not in person. Lacey2 seemed to settle in nicely, albeit rather slowly, to the
oval and our team coach managed to get my oval lap times down by 4 seconds by
the time we were done. The road course (the race alternated between the road
course and the oval with switchovers during caution periods...) was pretty
straightforward and fun...it was neat being able to outbrake anyone else on
the track!  Ate a nice team meal and got a little sleep.

Saturday, Sept. 3
(13 hours):

Rain! Rain is good! When you have an underpowered but
good-handling car, rain was a plus. We hadn't run in real rain yet (eat your
heart out Midwestern folks) as the Southeast ChumpCar races have been
surprisingly clear. We found that we could run with anyone on the road course
(getting passed on the oval turn and making it up in the infield) and had a
grand time battling with cars that ended up finishing much better than we did.
Ended up in 6th-10th (out of 47 cars) most of the time and were 7th at the end
of day 1. Surprised a LOT of people...running against BMW E30's, E36's,
Toyotas, Mazdas (Miata & RX7's), Hondas, etc...One of our drivers had a
terrific duel with a Toyota FX16 towards the end of the day that took out a
headlight (racing incident, no foul) but they both came in with big wide grins
on their faces.  Went over the car, fixed a few things, picked up another
battery at a 24 hour Walmart.  Got to sleep around 2:30 am.

Sunday, Sept 4
(12.5 hours):

All WAS well...until a half-shaft decided to break inside the
rear hub, RH side. One of the winning BMW E30 team members reported we hit an
altitude of over 4 feet as we careened off the track on top of some tire
barriers right after the hairpin. We needed to replace the wheel, drum,
brakes, backing plate, hub, halfshaft and trailing arm (ugh!). Iowa Speedway
tow truck was kind enough to hoist the TR6 into the garage and stayed until we
could get a jack stand under it! Kudos!!!! According to chumpstaff we got the
car back out in less than 40 minutes...haven't verified that through MyLaps
yet but I know it was quick. Had all the parts ready to go thanks to Jack
McGahey but that's still a lot of fasteners to get right. After that, things
continued to go downhill as we broke a third stock TR6 wheel (gonna buy some
real wheels before Sebring) and a wheel stud...and then the rack decided to
stop turning right. Unfortunately, we were on the road course at
 the time! After repairing all the above and replacing the rack, we were out
again, only to run out of fuel due to a miscalculation with 10 minutes to
go....at the other end of pit road from where we were pitted!

A Porsche
team was VERY kind to give us fuel, fire extinguisher, gloves, helmet to one
of our guys still in his suit so we could refuel at the other end of pit
road...nice example of the spirit of ChumpCar!!!!  We ended up 18th out of 47.
Had a great time, happy to meet folks, looking forward to 14 more hours at
Sebring on September 24th!    C'mon out and join us as we will continue to
wave the Triumph (and hopefully FOT if it gets here in time) flag at another
endurance race!
 
Pictures at http://riffrafracing.blogspot.com
 
Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader, RiffRAF Racing
'75 TR6 ChumpCar


From rjohns at woh.rr.com  Sat Sep 10 20:35:27 2011
From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:35:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchos ( Bob Johns)
Message-ID: <0919F1323A90476D8F051AE29728FF9F@Bucktailus>

I read with interest the conversation about obtaining and / or salvaging
syncho rings.  Some of you know that I was at the Triumph Register
International gathering at Harrogate, England in July. There were several
vendors there selling TR parts. One in particular catch my attention.  He was
a older fellow that had worked for Standard in Coventry. His name is Dave
Gleed ( Coventry Classics).  He had a treasure throve of original parts.  Two
items in particular amazed me. There was a nice bunch of new syncro rings
laying there to be had. I picked up some and showed them to a friend and said:
How amazing, as I had seen the time I could have used some of them.
The other item of particular interest was original thermostats with the bypass
shut off sleeve. I know there has been conversation about obtaining them of
our FOT chat line.   In case someone wants to contact him, his mail address
is, as he has no web site or email:

Dave Gleed
Coventry Classics
16 Aldbury Rise
Allesley Park
Coventry CV5  9JP
Great Britain


From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 11 17:02:39 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:02:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)
Message-ID: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have an oil leak out of my Purolator oil pressur regulator.  The seal I
referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have any thoughts on
fixing this leak?
 
Mike Mehl #46 TR5


From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sun Sep 11 17:30:04 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:30:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)
In-Reply-To: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>

>  The seal I
> referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have 
> any thoughts on
> fixing this leak?

TRF shows P/N 500328 in stock.

-- Randall  


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Sep 12 11:50:57 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:50:57 +0200
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
Message-ID: <002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>

FOT

Kas and Peggy were here at the Ring and pleased the crowd with their
attendance.
He was very asked for autographs and telling stories, even a TV team did
interview him and the track speaker took him to the control tower to do some
comments about CanAm cars which were on the track at that very moment.

A number of his current book was sold out in about 3 hours, all signed.

I dared to take Peggy and Kas around the track with the race car.
I know I know....how could I do this to take these treasured people on the
track but the speed was medium fast as it was very wet.
Once the cars rear escaped when Peggy was onboard when we left Karussel but
it made a big smile on her face which I saw on her face at the center
mirror.

Kas comment about the track was short: AMAZING!

All people were amazed about his very interesting comments about car
technique.

He did also made the price giving.
BTW...the Kastner Cup was given to Mario Neumann who won the Triumph
Competition overall.
He had the best tactic....driving fast but not too fast while the others
were to inconsistent with their driving in a 3H race.

http://tr-register.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=982
http://youtu.be/PANRTnMoe5c


He'll fly back tomorrow and will speak up shortly I guess.


Cheers
Chris




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Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:11
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.

Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some very close and competitive racing among our
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>
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From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 12 12:17:00 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
	<002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
Message-ID: <1315851420.13504.YahooMailRC@web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Chris,
  This sounds excellent.  Thank you to you and to all who hosted Kas &
Peg.  It 
sounds like they should have had a wonderful time.  and thats what
its all about 
....
 
Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire
________________________________
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, September 12, 2011 12:50:57 PM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Kas and Peggy were here
at the Ring and pleased the crowd with their
attendance.
He was very asked for
autographs and telling stories, even a TV team did
interview him and the track
speaker took him to the control tower to do some
comments about CanAm cars
which were on the track at that very moment.

A number of his current book was
sold out in about 3 hours, all signed.

I dared to take Peggy and Kas around
the track with the race car.
I know I know....how could I do this to take
these treasured people on the
track but the speed was medium fast as it was
very wet.
Once the cars rear escaped when Peggy was onboard when we left
Karussel but
it made a big smile on her face which I saw on her face at the
center
mirror.

Kas comment about the track was short: AMAZING!

All people
were amazed about his very interesting comments about car
technique.

He did
also made the price giving.
BTW...the Kastner Cup was given to Mario Neumann
who won the Triumph
Competition overall.
He had the best tactic....driving
fast but not too fast while the others
were to inconsistent with their driving
in a 3H race.

http://tr-register.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=982
http://youtu.be/PANRTnMoe5c


He'll fly back tomorrow and will speak up
shortly I guess.


Cheers
Chris




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fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von
N197TR4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:11
An:
fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.
Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive
reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some
very close and competitive racing among our
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are
getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>
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From tr4.tony at virgin.net  Tue Sep 13 13:30:54 2011
From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (Tony Sheach)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:30:54 +0100
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
	<002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
Message-ID: <004701cc724b$a7877d90$f69678b0$@virgin.net>

Great people out there in Germany .... really, very special bunch.

I just got home and parked 3VC in the garage after a rapid dash back from
Germany, through Belgium and northern France. What a weekend ! even managed
to find all the speed traps on the E40 and stay out of their way all the way
home.

And a very special thanks to Chris for all the hard work he put into making
this happen in Europe. No one else could have done this and it was a
pleasure to have his company and that of Kas and Peggy all weekend. Lots and
lots of laughs. Im sure the other guys from the UK will say the same but ill
leave that to them - and a big hurrah for Keith & Josh Files and Steve Hall
who took home a pot with their triple driven TR6.

Im still remembering the drive of my life, over a big fat Gin; first time in
round the Nordschliefe in my existence, in the pouring rain, sideways
mainly, with a rally car on 60 spoke wires and road tyres ...... now ill be
telling that story for a long time.

All the best, let us know when the Eagles land back in California.

Regards Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: 12 September 2011 18:51
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Kas and Peggy were here at the Ring and pleased the crowd with their
attendance.
He was very asked for autographs and telling stories, even a TV team did
interview him and the track speaker took him to the control tower to do some
comments about CanAm cars which were on the track at that very moment.

A number of his current book was sold out in about 3 hours, all signed.

I dared to take Peggy and Kas around the track with the race car.
I know I know....how could I do this to take these treasured people on the
track but the speed was medium fast as it was very wet.
Once the cars rear escaped when Peggy was onboard when we left Karussel but
it made a big smile on her face which I saw on her face at the center
mirror.

Kas comment about the track was short: AMAZING!

All people were amazed about his very interesting comments about car
technique.

He did also made the price giving.
BTW...the Kastner Cup was given to Mario Neumann who won the Triumph
Competition overall.
He had the best tactic....driving fast but not too fast while the others
were to inconsistent with their driving in a 3H race.

http://tr-register.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=982
http://youtu.be/PANRTnMoe5c


He'll fly back tomorrow and will speak up shortly I guess.


Cheers
Chris




-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:11
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.

Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some very close and competitive racing among our
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Mon Sep 12 19:20:45 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:20:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Flags
Message-ID: <70A29850-8432-4687-BD94-470597003593@aol.com>

Amici,
I just got back home and looked at the flags.   The design is BIGGER than I
exected!
I am starting to pack these suckers up and label them.

Thanks for everything

Christopher Bock
www.SeaCubeCo.com
SeaCubeCo at aol.com
(609) 319-4322


From trmarty at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 13 10:47:43 2011
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:47:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fire Suppression System
Message-ID: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>

Question for the experts out there.  As I am freshening up the spitfire I had
to pull out the fire bottle.  It is a halon bottle.  It has a few years on it
but shows fully charged.  Do these things need serviced or recertified after X
amount of years?  Or if fully charge they last indefinitely?

Thanks,

Marty


From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 13 11:37:14 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:37:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow
Message-ID: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>

Here is some in car footage from Sat, 9/10, Buttonwillow CA
outside temp 100
Camera: Contour GPS  (with duct tape over the mic hole)

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28970762

~Steve


From andre at gt6.ca  Tue Sep 13 12:57:28 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:57:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow
In-Reply-To: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
References: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CADr8x9Y2scySEjKg_4FCR-ku+wYeM5Dm-oAm5dZ98kXbFJx_GA@mail.gmail.com>

No kidding you guys got friendly at the start.

I've had a few of those my past race weekend.

1 with a very $$$ Lotus who missed a gear. We all skattered to avoid him...
Turn 4 into 5 at Mosport... Kinda exciting (Not really)

Nice track btw.

A.



On 13 September 2011 13:37, Steven Belfer <colordog.1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Here is some in car footage from Sat, 9/10, Buttonwillow CA
> outside temp 100
> Camera: Contour GPS  (with duct tape over the mic hole)
>
> http://vimeo.com/28971387
>
> http://vimeo.com/28971387
>
> http://vimeo.com/28970762
>
> ~Steve
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From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Sep 13 13:01:09 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:01:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow
In-Reply-To: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
References: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E489A7359D9A4BA582CF932F22C59444@Vista>

Adrian Newey would be horrified that you have the kill switch pointed
against air flow!  :)

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Steven Belfer
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:37 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net Triumph
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow

Here is some in car footage from Sat, 9/10, Buttonwillow CA
outside temp 100
Camera: Contour GPS  (with duct tape over the mic hole)

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28970762

~Steve
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 13 13:15:46 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:15:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fire Suppression System
In-Reply-To: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CALCydYrfznMzF9XuGwjUr1naD_JkoScvV9aiQtxzTG47EnoQJg@mail.gmail.com>

Most likely it is still o.k. but to be sure, you can't go by the gauge. It
is my understanding that since it is a liquid (which is released as a gas)
it's content is measured by weight. I took mine to Pegasus last year and
they weighed it and checked the spec weight of the bottle. It is the weight
of the liquid that is important. Mine was probably older than yours and
checked out fine. Halon keeps working a lot longer than newer type systems
(FE-36 and AFFF) but is higher in toxicity and hard to clean up. It cannot
be refilled like the newer systems. So if it is not the proper weight, you
have to replace the whole bottle. In which case it would probably be best to
change to a AFFF or FE-36 bottle that fits your old set-up. Maybe If you
contact PegasusAuto Racing Supplies (they are an authorized fire system
center), they would give you the total weight that your bottle AND liquid
should be. Then you could weigh it yourself.

Not an expert but did do some research on this last year.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Question for the experts out there.  As I am freshening up the spitfire I
> had
> to pull out the fire bottle.  It is a halon bottle.  It has a few years on
> it
> but shows fully charged.  Do these things need serviced or recertified
> after X
> amount of years?  Or if fully charge they last indefinitely?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marty
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>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Sep 13 22:44:10 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:44:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR-7 on Craigslist
Message-ID: <20110914044431.32B8B18764F@autox.team.net>

http://quadcities.craigslist.org/cto/2586425928.html
1979 TR-7, original owner, $4900
NFI

Tony Drews


From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 14 07:12:45 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:12:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] I know some of you have used 280ZX wheels...
Message-ID: <1316005965.53183.YahooMailNeo@web114705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

What did you use for lug nuts?
 
Thanks!


From sgroh1 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 14 08:33:30 2011
From: sgroh1 at comcast.net (Steven Groh)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:33:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Message-ID: <393729552.2582465.1316010810620.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed83.prod>

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- Steven

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From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 08:52:07 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:52:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire workshop manual
Message-ID: <d4b3.462b6879.3ba21997@aol.com>

I have an extra Haynes manual for Spits 1962-1978. If anyone NEEDS one and  
doesn't have one, you can have this one FREE if you pay the  postage...rick


From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 10:16:18 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:16:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] (no subject)
Message-ID: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>



From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 12:22:01 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:22:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Don Marshall
Message-ID: <26f4f.e0ec28b.3ba24ac5@aol.com>

Don Marshall, pls get back to me off line if you still want the manual, or  
it will go to the second responder....thanks, rick


From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Wed Sep 14 15:30:34 2011
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:30:34 +0100
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com><002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
	<004701cc724b$a7877d90$f69678b0$@virgin.net> 
Message-ID: <6F20BCC938E5468C801FF703049F383C@homekeith>

What more is there to say, we arrived back yesterday evening with the
broadest grins you could imagine. This was a magnificent event and I take my
hat off to Chris for pulling this all together; a great job Chris.

Kas and Peg amaze me, a 26 hour trip from the US and yet they looked as
fresh as anything and were involved in everything from the word go; you guys
are real heroes to us.

Josh, Steve and me had a great time in the car, the car ran brilliantly
throughout other than a slight lack of brakes after 2 hours and we came home
with a pot and stories to tell.

We will be back again I am sure.

Thanks again to Chris and the German TR group for making us all so welcome
and making it a memorable event.

Keith. 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Sheach
Sent: 13 September 2011 20:31
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

Great people out there in Germany .... really, very special bunch.

I just got home and parked 3VC in the garage after a rapid dash back from
Germany, through Belgium and northern France. What a weekend ! even managed
to find all the speed traps on the E40 and stay out of their way all the way
home.

And a very special thanks to Chris for all the hard work he put into making
this happen in Europe. No one else could have done this and it was a
pleasure to have his company and that of Kas and Peggy all weekend. Lots and
lots of laughs. Im sure the other guys from the UK will say the same but ill
leave that to them - and a big hurrah for Keith & Josh Files and Steve Hall
who took home a pot with their triple driven TR6.

Im still remembering the drive of my life, over a big fat Gin; first time in
round the Nordschliefe in my existence, in the pouring rain, sideways
mainly, with a rally car on 60 spoke wires and road tyres ...... now ill be
telling that story for a long time.

All the best, let us know when the Eagles land back in California.

Regards Tony


From rjohns at woh.rr.com  Wed Sep 14 15:58:18 2011
From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:58:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Fot Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12
Message-ID: <C5E8B0942959449DBE8C5B8DFD4622B9@Bucktailus>

Did you not get this previously?  I got an error message, So maybe you did 
not. I hope you get it now.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Johns" <rjohns at woh.rr.com>
To: "FOT team" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:08 PM
Subject: Fw: Fot Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12


> FOT team
> Just got this note and great photo of Kas and Peg, along with my very good
> friend, David Somerville, relaxing at the Ring.  Note that Kas can relax 
> and
> not even have a stop watch in his hand, or even in sight.
> David is an interesting fellow.  Has a TR2, a TR4 with Webers, a very 
> quick TR8,  and a Porsche  Carrera 4S.  I rode extensively in the TR8 and 
> the Porsche on that trip to
> Harrogate, TR international.
> Bob Johns
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Somerville" <trguru at btinternet.com>
> To: "Robert Johns" <rjohns at woh.rr.com>
> Cc: "Jeff Kelley" <jeffreykelley at charter.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Fot Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12
>
>
>> Bob   ,
>>
>>
>> just    back  from  a  tour  round  the  Eifel  mountains    .
>>
>> Met   this  American   couple  on  their  vacation   ,    weather    in
>> Germany    not  as   good   as  when  you   came  over to  England   . 
>> A
>> bit  wet   ,  no  correction  very  wet   .   But   they  both  enjoyed
>> themselves    ,   both  having  a drive   round  the  Nordschliefe   with
>> a
>> crazy  German  driver  in  the   wet   .
>>
>>
>>
>> all the  best  David

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC_kas-0663.JPG]


From billdentin at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 18:23:15 2011
From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:23:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Message-ID: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Sep 14 20:57:53 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:57:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE416A6586F560-12F8-4792C@webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com>

We plan to make an Alexander Family Weekend of it. I might even bring the
Ambro.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: billdentin <billdentin at aol.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 9:38 pm
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...


Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________
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From malaboge at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 22:49:38 2011
From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:49:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] "Foreign" Car Parts...
Message-ID: <8CE417A024072C8-8F4-2E1FA@webmail-d014.sysops.aol.com>

Yeah I know this is a bit off topic, but here I go anyway...

I need the rear wheel hub oil slinger that bolts to the backside of the rear
wheel hub flange...and the four Phillips head screws that hold it on, from
either a Datsun 510 or 240Z...at least its gonna go on a British car...

Anybody got one kickin around? I somehow got a set of rear axles with one
missing.  I'm not sure but I think the 260/280 units may be bigger (I know the
actual shafts are...ask me how I know).

Unscrupulous modifiers r us...
Nick in Nor Cal


From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Sep 14 23:48:06 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:48:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110915054826.20107187654@autox.team.net>

If the weather is forecast to be acceptable, I'll be there, and will 
be glad to pitch in.  I can even pick up the blue cheese.

Tony Drews

At 07:23 PM 9/14/2011, billdentin at aol.com wrote:
>Amici...
>
>My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
>of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
>I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
>But before I do, I thought I would double check.
>
>Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
>Scott?, Dennis?
>Tony?  Jason?  Any one?
>
>Bill Dentinger
>_______________________________________________
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>
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Sep 14 23:51:26 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:51:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Message-ID: <mailman.40.1638251572.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

Bill, I'm sorry but if you miss this event, we are going to have to revoke your FOT membership.
I will be racing there for sure. And honestly, you can count on me for any help you may need. I'm the master of staying up all night fixing and preping these cars. I'll even have my girls wash and wax your car to a choice FGR shine before every session. Wine and cheese, done, equipment Check, fine. Spares package, no problem... Actually, bring your own spares; my stuff is just about used up. No worries, make it happen! This event needs your charm and good humor. Besides, if you don't make it who are all those beautiful women going to root for and shower with Champagne? 
I have all the tools and all the beer to overcome a weekend of racing at Blackhawk Farms. Register now!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
------Original Message------
From: billdentin at aol.com
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Sent: Sep 14, 2011 7:23 PM

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 15 02:11:43 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:11:43 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>

The first part is entertaining:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo

Cheers
Chris


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu Sep 15 04:00:22 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:00:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C74026844F8@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I plan to be there.  You need someone to take the garage next to you?

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed Sep 14 19:23:15 2011
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________
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From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 15 06:21:30 2011
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1316089290.99338.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Bill:
 
If you need anything let me know.
 
Ernie

--- On Wed, 9/14/11, billdentin at aol.com <billdentin at aol.com> wrote:


From: billdentin at aol.com <billdentin at aol.com>
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 7:23 PM


Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

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From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 15 07:43:43 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:43:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <20110915072006.A4073187930@autox.team.net>
References: <20110915072006.A4073187930@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1316094223.60066.YahooMailRC@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

SECOND!!!!
 
Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4
white spitfire




________________________________
From:
"jason at multivintage.com" <jason at multivintage.com>
To: billdentin at aol.com;
fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011
12:51:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...

Bill,
I'm sorry but if you miss this event, we are going to have to revoke your 
FOT
membership.
I will be racing there for sure. And honestly, you can count on me
for any help 
you may need. I'm the master of staying up all night fixing and
preping these 
cars. I'll even have my girls wash and wax your car to a choice
FGR shine before 
every session. Wine and cheese, done, equipment Check, fine.
Spares package, no 
problem... Actually, bring your own spares; my stuff is
just about used up. No 
worries, make it happen! This event needs your charm
and good humor. Besides, if 
you don't make it who are all those beautiful
women going to root for and shower 
with Champagne? 

I have all the tools and
all the beer to overcome a weekend of racing at 
Blackhawk Farms. Register
now!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
------Original Message------
From:
billdentin at aol.com
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Sent: Sep 14, 2011 7:23
PM

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family
the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is
unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined
to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans
to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?,
Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Thu Sep 15 11:18:13 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:18:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] OK Then...
Message-ID: <14f34.3739d683.3ba38d55@aol.com>

Amici...

OK then!  The Beady Eye VINTAGE TRIUMPH Racing Team (in all its Glory, 
albeit lite) will enter THAT LOOOONG RACE event at Blackhawk Farms Raceway on 
October 29th and 30th, 2011.

Bill (Damdinger)


From atr6racer at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 15 15:19:13 2011
From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:19:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Race car
Message-ID: <SNT136-W15BBF5AFF95BFB3B850FEDF9070@phx.gbl>

I am looking for a Vintage TR6 race car for a friend to purchase. Would like a
complete car, but will look at roller's also. I'm in Ohio. Please contact me
at:

Sam Halkias
atr6racer at hotmail.com
614-582-0232

Thanks,

Sam


From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 15 18:22:51 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:22:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
Message-ID: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today!  They are GORGEOUS,
Chris!!!!!

We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled track
:-)

Thanks, Chris!!!!!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader
RiffRAF Racing
'75 TR6
"Lacey2"


From igofaster at att.net  Thu Sep 15 18:48:44 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>
Message-ID: <1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

damn.. I just thought I was a race car driver...  dude....  200kph? what is that 
120mph? shit...  I just hope to hit 100 mph at a second or two...   THIS is real 
driving. Not a memorized set of turns that most of us know... I commend you ! 
YOU are a driver. It's not about the memory of preset turns we all know, it's 
this skill, balls, bravery (wait , does that go together?) and ability with you 
and your machine that blows me away with this video. I think the word 'road 
racing' is tossed around very generically now as far as I know. THIS was a 
road... heck I haven't even finished watching the first lap and I'm blown away. 
What is the course, 50k ? 


coolest in car video I've ever seen...   MadMax fan club.........    Bobby 
Whitehead


________________________________
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 3:11:43 AM
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74

The first part is entertaining:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo

Cheers
Chris
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Sep 15 21:14:15 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:14:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <990098195.697556.1316142855932.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Chris is indeed a great driver and I love the adjusting of the mirror around 200kph, like no prob dudes. 



Thanks for sharing the vid Chris, the tracks in Europe are spectacular. 


Dave H. 
SC,Ca. 


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 06:53:39 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:53:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B636D760-5C88-4F04-8676-EE5B2DBE845A@aol.com>

Your flags were the first to be sent. The rest went out yesterday and the non
US flags are going today.

I am glad you like them.

Chris

On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today!  They are GORGEOUS,
> Chris!!!!!
>
> We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
> think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled
track
> :-)
>
> Thanks, Chris!!!!!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF Racing
> '75 TR6
> "Lacey2"
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Sep 16 07:02:07 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:02:07 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109160829190.27391@isis.mit.edu>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109160829190.27391@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <000001cc7470$e060a110$a121e330$@com>

Thank you all for the compliments of my ride.

As it would be very boring to show a 3H in total I'm working on a short
version in which ALL overtaking is covered....

Maybe finished this weekend.

Cheers
Chris


From kaskas at cox.net  Fri Sep 16 07:54:18 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:54:18 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>,
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>,
	<1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W27540465FE7B4C5BF57594DF060@phx.gbl>

Glad to see the opinion of my friend Cristian Marx.  I was up in the woods by
the track taking split times.  In a 8 second section only two cars were in the
5 second range, a fellow in a Porsche 935 and Chris Marx in his TR-4.  Take
that for pretty tough driver.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:44 -0700
> From: igofaster at att.net
> To: tr4racing at googlemail.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> damn.. I just thought I was a race car driver...  dude....  200kph? what is
that
> 120mph? shit...  I just hope to hit 100 mph at a second or two...   THIS is
real
> driving. Not a memorized set of turns that most of us know... I commend you
!
> YOU are a driver. It's not about the memory of preset turns we all know,
it's
> this skill, balls, bravery (wait , does that go together?) and ability with
you
> and your machine that blows me away with this video. I think the word 'road
> racing' is tossed around very generically now as far as I know. THIS was a
> road... heck I haven't even finished watching the first lap and I'm blown
away.
> What is the course, 50k ?
>
>
> coolest in car video I've ever seen...   MadMax fan club.........    Bobby
> Whitehead
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 3:11:43 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> The first part is entertaining:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Sep 16 08:04:11 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:04:11 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <SNT120-W27540465FE7B4C5BF57594DF060@phx.gbl>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>,
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>,
	<1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT120-W27540465FE7B4C5BF57594DF060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000701cc7479$847a1580$8d6e4080$@com>

Hmm.It is not very special.

If you get into the flow then it is more like your square dance.you
announce where to go with a little song and rhythm.

Sing: corner left, the rear goes wide, turn the wheel and all be right

Something like that J



Cheers

Chris





Von: hotmail_b17abf0a244adefd at live.com
[mailto:hotmail_b17abf0a244adefd at live.com] Im Auftrag von Kas Kastner
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. September 2011 15:54
An: igofaster at att.net; MadMarx
Cc: fot
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74



Glad to see the opinion of my friend Cristian Marx.  I was up in the woods
by the track taking split times.  In a 8 second section only two cars were
in the 5 second range, a fellow in a Porsche 935 and Chris Marx in his TR-4.
Take that for pretty tough driver.

Never be beaten by equipment


> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:44 -0700
> From: igofaster at att.net
> To: tr4racing at googlemail.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> damn.. I just thought I was a race car driver... dude.... 200kph? what is
that
> 120mph? shit... I just hope to hit 100 mph at a second or two... THIS is
real
> driving. Not a memorized set of turns that most of us know... I commend
you !
> YOU are a driver. It's not about the memory of preset turns we all know,
it's
> this skill, balls, bravery (wait , does that go together?) and ability
with you
> and your machine that blows me away with this video. I think the word
'road
> racing' is tossed around very generically now as far as I know. THIS was a

> road... heck I haven't even finished watching the first lap and I'm blown
away.
> What is the course, 50k ?
>
>
> coolest in car video I've ever seen... MadMax fan club......... Bobby
> Whitehead
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 3:11:43 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> The first part is entertaining:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Sep 16 08:56:49 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:56:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <B636D760-5C88-4F04-8676-EE5B2DBE845A@aol.com>
References: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<B636D760-5C88-4F04-8676-EE5B2DBE845A@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4297FEFAE4EB-CC8-120C0@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>

THANKS!   ONCE AGAIN.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] WOW!!! Flags are COOL!!!!!


Your flags were the first to be sent. The rest went out yesterday and the non
S flags are going today.
I am glad you like them.
Chris
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today!  They are GORGEOUS,
 Chris!!!!!

 We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
 think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled
rack
 :-)

 Thanks, Chris!!!!!

 Jamie Palmer
 Squadron Leader
 RiffRAF Racing
 '75 TR6
 "Lacey2"
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Fri Sep 16 09:45:27 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:45:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source
Message-ID: <788293966.574247.1316187927218.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

FoT,
This outfit is offering billet TR4 cranks for $ 1,400.00 with an order of 10.
I can't consider it in the short term
but I would consider it after the 1st of the year.


jim g

http://www.maxspeedingrods.com/


B 
Yes, weB doB 4340 billet steel crank according to your sample. Our minimum
order is 10 units with each strokes at a time. We will make theB formal
blueprint for you to confirmB after receipt of 30% deposit. The cranks will
beB made in about 4-6 months after confirmed the blueprint. (normal in about
90 days, but now many orders on the schedule.) After we finished the whole
work and prepare shipping, the rest funds be paid before goods be shipped out.
B 
The price is about 1399USD/unit for 10B of 4-cyl cranksB at a time. We will
work out the accurate costB after checked the sample. Would you please send
any pictures of the crank at first.
B 
Any other questions, please feel free to let us know.
B 
Best regards
maxspeedingrods


From fpspitfire at comcast.net  Fri Sep 16 16:24:07 2011
From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (fpspitfire at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:24:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <8CE4297FEFAE4EB-CC8-120C0@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1710637724.715838.1316211847549.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

is it too late to get a flag...it will look nice next to the new rig

----- Original Message -----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
To: SeaCubeCo at aol.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, 16 September, 2011 10:56:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] WOW!!! B Flags are COOL!!!!!

THANKS! B  ONCE AGAIN.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] WOW!!! Flags are COOL!!!!!


Your flags were the first to be sent. The rest went out yesterday and the non
S flags are going today.
I am glad you like them.
Chris
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today! B They are GORGEOUS,
B Chris!!!!!

B We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
B think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled
rack
B :-)

B Thanks, Chris!!!!!

B Jamie Palmer
B Squadron Leader
B RiffRAF Racing
B '75 TR6
B "Lacey2"
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 21:31:18 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:31:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 Billet crank source
Message-ID: <1E2F7DBF-5E2F-479A-B395-32E84F57D5B4@aol.com>

Since the topic came up again, thought I'd send a note that Marine  
Crankshaft is going to make a small run of TR4 cranks. Not too late to  
join in if you need one for a winter rebuild:

"I have been working with Marine Crankshaft Inc. in Santa Ana, CA,, to  
pattern and produce a TR3/4 billet crankshaft. They are a very  
specialized high-performance crankshaft mfr. The goal was a better  
option on price and delivery, and an updated "5 main bearing" design  
like Crower and Racestoration's (http://www.racetorations.co.uk/page17.html 
). This has been achieved and then some with reduced weight. I have  
the initial unit now. I can send pictures if you are interested and  
contact me off-line.

For now, the owner has asked me to get word out that he welcomes  
additional orders from FOT racers, so here are the details:

$2300.00 includes plasma nitride hardening and dynamic no holes  
balancing.

Standard TR dimensions with aftermarket rear seal area at 2.525" (per  
Uncle Jack's Engine Building Tips). Call for charge to make original  
scroll seal flange.

Rear flange drilled to purchaser's spec at no charge

$100 charge to dimension for Non-standard con rods (i.e. Chevy, Honda)

Actual shipping charges for delivery

No sales tax on orders shipped out of CA (8.75% within CA)

50% Deposit required.

14 week delivery

Orders placed directly with David Eden at cacranks at yahoo.com. Mention  
"FoT Deal".

See www.marinecrankshaftinc.com for additional info."

John Frymark


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 18 07:22:47 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:22:47 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <0DE24370B1F2492B812123280908D098@gdhs.local>
References: <000001cc7470$e060a110$a121e330$@com>
	<0DE24370B1F2492B812123280908D098@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <000101cc7606$10984e00$31c8ea00$@com>

This is the whole race - for boring evenings:

http://youtu.be/7yd0SA1zEZk

Cheers
Chris


From spitlist at cox.net  Sun Sep 18 12:21:59 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:21:59 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <000101cc7606$10984e00$31c8ea00$@com>
References: <000001cc7470$e060a110$a121e330$@com><0DE24370B1F2492B812123280908D098@gdhs.local>
	<000101cc7606$10984e00$31c8ea00$@com>
Message-ID: <D9ECA602481E4C3D841772B6869F6AF9@Vista>

Nice!  But I am curious what that brief stop on the grass early in the race
was all about!

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:23 AM
To: 'fot'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74

This is the whole race - for boring evenings:

http://youtu.be/7yd0SA1zEZk

Cheers
Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 18 12:29:37 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:29:37 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
Message-ID: <mailman.41.1638251573.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

Simple:
The OD failed an it felt like if an axle broke or the engine seized.

I stopped the car to make sure that its nothing serious. Then a stop at the pits to try a repair.


------Originalnachricht------
Von: Joe Curry
An: 'MadMarx'
An: 'fot'
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
Gesendet: 18. Sep. 2011 20:21

Nice!  But I am curious what that brief stop on the grass early in the race
was all about!

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:23 AM
To: 'fot'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74

This is the whole race - for boring evenings:

http://youtu.be/7yd0SA1zEZk

Cheers
Chris
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From tylerpthompson at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 19:54:23 2011
From: tylerpthompson at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?dHlsZXJwdGhvbXBzb25AeWFob28uY29t?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:54:23 -0600
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?TR4_billet_crank_source?=
Message-ID: <493386.78835.qm@smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Are they made in USA?  English not so good.    

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone


From EDENMA at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 22:46:28 2011
From: EDENMA at aol.com (EDENMA at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:46:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source
Message-ID: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>

yeh......I kinda doubt it.....but I am still interested in looking at  it.
 
 
In a message dated 9/18/2011 7:54:11 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
tylerpthompson at yahoo.com writes:

Are they  made in USA?  English not so good.    

Sent from my  Verizon Wireless 4GLTE  smartphone


From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Sep 19 05:11:45 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:11:45 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source
In-Reply-To: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>
References: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001301cc76bc$ebcbc130$c3634390$@camoletti.ch>

Maxspeedrod make their stuff in China. There were a few FOT email exchanges
already a few months ago about their TR4 con rods sold very cheap at 500 or
so.

-----Message d'origine-----
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part de EDENMA at aol.com
Envoyi : lundi 19 septembre 2011 06:46
@ : tylerpthompson at yahoo.com; toodamnfunky at comcast.net; fot at autox.team.net
Objet : Re: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source

yeh......I kinda doubt it.....but I am still interested in looking at  it.


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Are they  made in USA?  English not so good.

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From gasket.works at verizon.net  Mon Sep 19 08:41:18 2011
From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:41:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR6  crankshafts
References: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007e01cc76da$315a2080$0701a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>

As of this am the TR6 Crankshaft order has four bonafide (money paid) orders 
and a fifth order likely this week. If you are interested in this group 
order contact me off-line.

m

M.N.Dunst
Gasket Works USA, LLC
www.Headgasket.com
626.358.1616 ph1
626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax

Triple R Munitions, Inc.
Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax
GMT-8 Pacific


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon Sep 19 09:05:19 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:05:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] crankshafts...
References: <0LRM000E4CLMJA70@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net>
	<SNT136-W33488C2200E2EB9A1EC06AF9060@phx.gbl>
	<001301cc76da$878489a0$0701a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
Message-ID: <3F2C78F3690345D7A2096A68D7A8F3B1@Charly>

Yes, I emailed Ruth this A.M. and she replied and I'll be sending off funds
this afternoon.  Mine will allow another level of discount.
Sorry about the late response, been racing and kinda forgot.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: MORDY DUNST
  To: Sam Halkias ; Gt6steve at aol.com ; Charly Mitchel
  Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:43 AM
  Subject: crankshafts...


  I just spoke to Ruth at farndon.   We have four orders in and are awaiting a
few others...   I understand that Charly wanted to order one as well.....


  Mordy

  M.N.Dunst
  Gasket Works USA, LLC
  www.Headgasket.com
  626.358.1616 ph1
  626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
  626.628.3777 fax

  Triple R Munitions, Inc.
  Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
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    -----


From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Sep 19 09:10:55 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:10:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
Message-ID: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>

AMICI,
A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
family.
In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
be faster cars.
My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
and son moment" I will never forget!
THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
this possible.
A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing.


From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 13:23:41 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:23:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc7701$a44c2cb0$ece48610$@net>

Nice job Jason

 

Craig

 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:11 AM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!

 

AMICI,

A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my

family.

In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.

After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of

coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!

The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should

be faster cars.

My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father

and son moment" I will never forget!

THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make

this possible.

A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.

Jason Ostrowski

Friendly Ghost Racing.

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From trdoctor at aol.com  Mon Sep 19 13:31:22 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:31:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
Message-ID: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>

YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.  That's
as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half price
which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?

Sam
Green Country Triumphs


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon Sep 19 14:02:57 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:02:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CE451E425FDC74-1D58-4171D@webmail-m060.sysops.aol.com>

what it is about......

and another f/s team for atlanta....

thanks!






-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 2:16 pm
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!


AMICI,
 life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
amily.
n a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
fter many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
oming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
he rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
e faster cars.
y Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
nd son moment" I will never forget!
HANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
his possible.
 very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
ason Ostrowski
riendly Ghost Racing.
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Mon Sep 19 14:08:39 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:08:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002001cc7707$eca9a900$c5fcfb00$@com>

Congratulations, Jason!!  I think you've earned it with all of your hard
work.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:11 AM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!

AMICI,
A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
family.
In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
be faster cars.
My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
and son moment" I will never forget!
THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
this possible.
A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing.
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From gp89 at charter.net  Mon Sep 19 15:14:09 2011
From: gp89 at charter.net (Jeff Senty)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:14:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
Message-ID: <45093902.4073a.1328389f638.Webtop.45@charter.net>

There is nothing sweeter than the first win. How grand to be able to 
share the moment with your dad. Congratulations !
Jeff Senty


On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> AMICI,
> A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and 
> my
> family.
> In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed 
> brilliantly.
> After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
> coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to 
> sweet!
> The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some 
> should
> be faster cars.
> My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional 
> "father
> and son moment" I will never forget!
> THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to 
> make
> this possible.
> A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing.
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 19 15:38:25 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316468305.72197.YahooMailRC@web80806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Congratulations.



----- Original Message ----
From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 11:10:55 AM
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!

AMICI,
A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
family.
In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
be faster cars.
My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
and son moment" I will never forget!
THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
this possible.
A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing.
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 15:54:39 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:54:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fire Suppression System
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYrfznMzF9XuGwjUr1naD_JkoScvV9aiQtxzTG47EnoQJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>
	<CALCydYrfznMzF9XuGwjUr1naD_JkoScvV9aiQtxzTG47EnoQJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D7881E78-FEA4-4C6D-95A9-1163ADD3538F@gmail.com>

Halon for extinguishers is liquid gold -- expensive and much harder to obtain
these days. I think I read that it's no longer legal to manufacture it in the
USA.

It's the best for fire extinguishing.  I saw a live comparison of various
extinguishing agents and it is clearly superior.  1301 is less toxic than 1211
and either will displace oxygen in a confined area.

Info here: http://www.gulfwidesafety.com/gws/docs/NVIC_6-72_chapter6.pdf

The local fire extinguisher service company ought to be able to check it out
for you.  Whatever you do, don't vent it just to check -- you might not be
able to get it recharged.

Duncan


On Sep 13, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> Most likely it is still o.k. but to be sure, you can't go by the gauge. It
> is my understanding that since it is a liquid (which is released as a gas)
> it's content is measured by weight. I took mine to Pegasus last year and
> they weighed it and checked the spec weight of the bottle. It is the weight
> of the liquid that is important. Mine was probably older than yours and
> checked out fine. Halon keeps working a lot longer than newer type systems
> (FE-36 and AFFF) but is higher in toxicity and hard to clean up. It cannot
> be refilled like the newer systems. So if it is not the proper weight, you
> have to replace the whole bottle. In which case it would probably be best
to
> change to a AFFF or FE-36 bottle that fits your old set-up. Maybe If you
> contact PegasusAuto Racing Supplies (they are an authorized fire system
> center), they would give you the total weight that your bottle AND liquid
> should be. Then you could weigh it yourself.
>
> Not an expert but did do some research on this last year.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Question for the experts out there.  As I am freshening up the spitfire I
>> had
>> to pull out the fire bottle.  It is a halon bottle.  It has a few years on
>> it
>> but shows fully charged.  Do these things need serviced or recertified
>> after X
>> amount of years?  Or if fully charge they last indefinitely?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Marty
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From andre at gt6.ca  Mon Sep 19 16:27:13 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:27:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <000001cc7701$a44c2cb0$ece48610$@net>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001cc7701$a44c2cb0$ece48610$@net>
Message-ID: <CADr8x9bD1MoRNUZEFZ1BCc7RVqPCBAJFLxLm8HpAQXQdNXHVkA@mail.gmail.com>

WAY TO GO!

A.

--
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http://twitter.com/andrerousseau
'68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/
#515 FIAT 124 Spider  - http://www.124racer.com/
Ottawa, ON, Canada

> Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:11 AM
> To: triumph friends
> Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
>
>
>
> AMICI,
>
> A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
>
> family.
>
> In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
>
> After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
>
> coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
>
> The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
>
> be faster cars.
>
> My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
>
> and son moment" I will never forget!
>
> THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
>
> this possible.
>
> A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
>
> Friendly Ghost Racing.


From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 18:03:30 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:03:30 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <45BB578DBA234FB893BA4EBAB7EEF7CE@Bud>

Have fun Sam!!....sounds like it's in your blood...When you get on the 
track, you'll know exactly what to do...It'll come naturally..
Racer Bud..Spitfire #21
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving 
> formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day. 
> That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving 
> though.  I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage 
> races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half 
> price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The 
> only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet 
> today so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 
> and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs
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From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 18:05:27 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:05:27 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1316468305.72197.YahooMailRC@web80806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0FB365A0ED3C4C33A66B4C0169DAE1E5@Bud>

Congratulations Jason!!...driving in the rain takes a nice 'touch'
Racer Bud Spitfire #21
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Mitchell" <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Jason Ostrowski" <jason at multivintage.com>; "triumph friends" 
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!


> Congratulations.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
> To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 11:10:55 AM
> Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
>
> AMICI,
> A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
> family.
> In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
> After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
> coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
> The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some 
> should
> be faster cars.
> My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
> and son moment" I will never forget!
> THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
> this possible.
> A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing.
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 05:22:57 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:22:57 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <785E046ADE424BBBBBDC980256C55595@owner8914bbf7f>

Sam, I agree with Bud; have fun!!!! Enjoy the day, and like they say at 
BeaveRun, be sure to take a towel with you to wipe off the big grin at the 
end of the day.
Enjoy.
Bill Tobin  Getting quicker TR6
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving 
> formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day. 
> That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving 
> though.  I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage 
> races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half 
> price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The 
> only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet 
> today so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 
> and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 06:45:55 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:45:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>

On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh, and
a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street cars)
and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:

> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.
I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today
so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam


From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Tue Sep 20 07:28:21 2011
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (Diesel Performance Parts - Info)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:28:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Revolution wheels for sale
Message-ID: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DACA4@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>

Hey Members,

Got a set of 4 13 x 6 four spoke Revolution wheels for sale. They are aluminum
and are originals. Fit the Spitfire and Lotus 4 lug pattern. Very nice
condition. I'd be using them but I have 7/16" studs and these are set up for
the 3/8" studs. I don't want to drill them out as they are originals and such
and are sort of scarce. Wanted to see if anyone on the list wanted them prior
to listing them on e bay.

Mark Craig
Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
411 Allied Drive
Nashville, TN 37211
866-455-7788 Phone
615-834-9923 Fax

www.dieselperformanceparts.com


From sjanzen at me.com  Tue Sep 20 07:31:55 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:31:55 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <785E046ADE424BBBBBDC980256C55595@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<785E046ADE424BBBBBDC980256C55595@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <6BFC9A02-9D18-43A8-AA3F-4924E74866FA@me.com>

My mechanical advice is to make sure the car has have plenty of oil, coolant is topped up,  tires are at pressure and you've bled the brakes.  Better yet, go out on a straight road, get up to speed and jam on the brakes and make sure they don't pull to one side.  I've found that putt-putting around at moderate speeds, I often don't notice that there's  a frozen caliper or the equivalent, because the system is not getting stressed like it would on a race track.
The day will be much more fun if you aren't chasing mechanical issues.  


> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day. That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
> 
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs


From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 08:54:57 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:54:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
Message-ID: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>

Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling TR6
issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.

The details:

I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
the rings etc......

Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old reief
spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 at
idle.

I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
the "county" brand.

A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.

Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.

The car runs cool.  Never much above 160

I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit waiting
in line to get in the car show.

Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 miles
home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still liked
to smoke.

I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away as
I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.

Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.


Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM


From andre at gt6.ca  Tue Sep 20 09:22:07 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:22:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADr8x9YLWnoN7E7y2RKKzr6=T2=ra-bEs9eKNj2d0PVvY0EMrA@mail.gmail.com>

Open top cars are far easier to get roll cages into and service.

Yes you can get wet, but on a nice race car that wind it wonderful.

Until you take a chunk of rubber off the helmet ;)

Don't forget a HANS device.

A.

On 20 September 2011 08:45, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and
> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars)
> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
> I
>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
> races
>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
only
>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
today
> so
>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>
>> Sam
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From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Tue Sep 20 09:27:28 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:27:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <390834960B09442EBD5EC1BFE2102FC0@gdhs.local>

In view of my experience on Sat. @Savannah, I would also suggest a good fire
extinguisher

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-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Munson
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:46 AM
To: Sam Clark
Cc: John Phillips; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars) and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:

> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
> though.
I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the
> vintage
races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I
> also helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun. Last week
> there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
> only down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my
> helmet today
so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 10:30:04 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:30:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs, if 
you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's 
not if, but when they break......
I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side is 
very reasonable.
I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
NFI, of course.
Have fun, Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers 
> with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh, 
> and
> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street 
> cars)
> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving 
>> though.
> I
>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
> races
>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The 
>> only
>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet 
>> today
> so
>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 
>> and
>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>
>> Sam
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 20 11:14:53 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:14:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALCydYrw4Atqm6d6=eVe-CPeb-xC4Yb21uPzAoND=_KN595iXg@mail.gmail.com>

For that matter, same advice on the GT6. In general the stock set up on the
rear axles is not appropriate for majorly pushing it on the track in an
HPDE. Having fun out there with a track touring approach is one thing...but
keep in mind that under a strong cornering load the axles have been known to
buckle under and fail with devastating consequence. This has happened to
more than one of even the best and well prepared GT6 race cars owned by
esteemed members of this very group. All of us GT6 racers would not even
think about going out without some type of upgraded set-up. And by far
the best stock set up is that of the GT6+ or mark 2. Flush any old brake
fluid and use Castrol LMA from a fresh unopened bottle. Also consider
draining the trans fluid and using the best available synthetic fluid Royal
Purple Syncromax or Red Line MTL. Oh, and bring a spare transmission with
you just in case. :)
Have Fun!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing GT6
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:

> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
> and
> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
> cars)
> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
> > fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
> > as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
> though.
> I
> > have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
> races
> > and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> > helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> > Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
> > which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
> only
> > down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
> today
> so
> > here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
> and
> > the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
> >
> > Sam
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 11:30:13 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:30:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <7EFD7B92-ED92-4C3E-90E7-1BC0BC7355A5@earthlink.net>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>,
	<7EFD7B92-ED92-4C3E-90E7-1BC0BC7355A5@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W25C0B6BC37F0004E8AE3BB900A0@phx.gbl>

I have the engine sealed up pretty well.  It leaks a little out the oil filter
bolt.  I'll try to fix that when I change the oil next.  It leaks a little out
the fill cap on the alloy valve cover (that bugs me).

There is a nice smoke trail, Blue or grey, not black puffs nicely at traffic
lights and shifts, not too noticeable on the freeway.  Certainly not dying
bomber status, doesn't seem to be fouling the plugs...........Cheers Henry

> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
> From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:21:53 -0700
> To: dos_gusanos at msn.com
>
> Henry, does it puff blue smoke or leak? can you tell where the oil is going?
You must determine this before you can fix the problem.


From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Sep 20 11:36:31 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:36:31 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <13BC48488E3046A4BAC2446B76CD8812@Bud>

Henry...If you have an increased amount of smoke after idling, it sounds 
like badly leaking valve guides....The oil is accumulating on the top of the 
pistons, and not burning off quickly, as it will when under power...
Racer Bud
Spitfire #21
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:54 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.


> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling 
> TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly. 
> Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old 
> reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 
> at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they 
> were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit 
> waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 
> miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still 
> liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes 
> away as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 11:42:53 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:42:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3B27030A-00E6-41ED-84CA-0BE98EF0FF8D@gmail.com>

Did they install seals on the intake valve guides?  Were the valve guides
checked for clearance?  High intake manifold vacuum that the engine
experiences at idle may be drawing oil through the guides and into the
combustion chamber.  Have you checked compression or done a leak down test
yet?  This would help determine whether the rings have anything to do with the
smoking.  If you have a compression gauge, try a test (throttle plates open)
and then test again after squirting a little bit of oil in through the plug
holes to help seal the rings.

Duncan
(Texas)


On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:

> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old
reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50
at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20
miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 20 12:30:17 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:30:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CALCydYr6h95Q3so2-qtNRnas86raTqYZHN0p-Wdk2M2xDPPnfw@mail.gmail.com>

The smoking bothers me more than the consumption. Most often that symptom is
a sign that its time for a rebuild due to ring wear.
My GT6 drinks oil like a college kid at a keg party. About a quart for every
30 min session. I often wonder where it's going?
I've been trying to figure that out for two seasons now.
But now the smoking I have, exactly as you describe, tells me its time for a
rebuild.
Unfortunately, the cheap pistons and rings my not have been a wise choice.
But hind sight is 20/20.
You're past your break in point already, use the heaviest oil it'll run on
and get some fun out of it.
Put a diaper (wads of heavy paper towels) anywhere you think it might be
leaking to be sure the smoking isn't from oil leaking on the hot stuff and
also to tell you how much it may be leaking.
Some easy little things that may help a bit.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com> wrote:

> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
> TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old
> reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50
> at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
> waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20
> miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
> liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
> as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From trdoctor at aol.com  Tue Sep 20 12:56:16 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:56:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
	<EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>

Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet and
long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red Line
MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head where
things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.

Sam


On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:

> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs, if
you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's not
if, but when they break......
> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side is
very reasonable.
> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
> NFI, of course.
> Have fun, Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
>
>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers
with
>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and
>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars)
>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>
>> Mike Munson
>> #28 EP TR6
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
>> formula
>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>> That's
>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
>> I
>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
>> races
>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
>> price
>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
only
>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
today
>> so
>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>
>>> Sam
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From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com  Tue Sep 20 13:51:01 2011
From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (rkramer3)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:51:01 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
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References: <390834960B09442EBD5EC1BFE2102FC0@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <14FA0AD0-1555-4B92-B547-2A2676443D89@austin.rr.com>

Do tell......

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:27 AM, "John Hasty" <jhhasty at gdhs.com> wrote:

> In view of my experience on Sat. @Savannah, I would also suggest a good
fire
> extinguisher
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Mike Munson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:46 AM
> To: Sam Clark
> Cc: John Phillips; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
>
> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
> and a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
> cars) and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
>> though.
> I
>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the
>> vintage
> races
>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I
>> also helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun. Last week
>> there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
>> only down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my
>> helmet today
> so
>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
> and
>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>
>> Sam
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 14:36:04 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:36:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
Message-ID: <SNT134-W27DA95BA47381F57D25061900A0@phx.gbl>

Well, yeah,   I did measure the end gaps on the rings.  All were within the
specifications.  The compression numbers when I checked them after 100 or so
miles were low (90 lbs at 7000 ft.) but even.  The rings came on the pistons
and were black in color, looked like they had been plated black.

I don't think that I broke any of the rings on installation.

The machine shop told me the guides were OK when I probed them as to why they
didn't ask to replace them additionally they said if they were shot, the car
would still not use that much oil.

I may strike out at the engine physically and violently if I have to
re-rebuild it.

Cheers Henry Morrison


From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Tue Sep 20 14:52:19 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:52:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <07c901cc77d7$30fef130$92fcd390$@rr.com>

> smokes when shifiting

What did you do to fix the leaking valve guides?

(I'll skip the cheap shot tho I'm sure others won't <g>)

-- Randall 


From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 15:14:26 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:14:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <07c901cc77d7$30fef130$92fcd390$@rr.com>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>,
	<07c901cc77d7$30fef130$92fcd390$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W56B7E9202D0F264DB02B06900A0@phx.gbl>

So, do ya think it's the guides?  I'd much rather replace those, than rings
and honing..................Cheers Henry


> From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com
> To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:52:19 -0700
>
> > smokes when shifiting
>
> What did you do to fix the leaking valve guides?
>
> (I'll skip the cheap shot tho I'm sure others won't <g>)
>
> -- Randall


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Tue Sep 20 15:28:35 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:28:35 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
	<EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
	<82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F02D42E@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

Front brake pads like Hawk Blues would be a simple but effective temporary
improvement. Turn 3 at Hallett will test your brakes. I've also used the EBC
Green Stuff but if I were you would keep them away from your car. They shed
hot, little metal particles.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
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out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Sam Clark
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:56 PM
To: william r tobin
Cc: John Phillips; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap

Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet and
long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red Line
MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head where
things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.

Sam


On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:

> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear
> hubs, if
you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's not
if, but when they break......
> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a
> side is
very reasonable.
> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
> NFI, of course.
> Have fun, Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
>
>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake
>> calipers
with
>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing
>> HPDEs. Oh,
and
>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in
>> street
cars)
>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>
>> Mike Munson
>> #28 EP TR6
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA
>>> driving
>> formula
>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>> That's
>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
>> I
>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the
>>> vintage
>> races
>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I
>>> also helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for
>>> half
>> price
>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.
>>> The
only
>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my
>>> helmet
today
>> so
>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>
>>> Sam
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Sep 20 15:28:36 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:28:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com><CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com><EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
	<82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9EEA51166D704751BCA9D7BDB04C7183@Charly>

Sam,
Please understand that the rear hub on a TR6, TR250, TR4A, can and will 
break at any time.. It's not a matter of how many races or how hard you race 
it, the hub will snap off the stub axle at the end of the taper!  Everyone I 
know with a TR IRS suspension, even TVR's has broken one if not changed.  My 
car nearly flipped over when it broken at about 50mph and the tire went out 
the back.
As a matter of fact, I think all Triumphs and variations have this problem, 
even the non-IRS cars.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
To: "william r tobin" <william.tobin31 at verizon.net>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
> consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
> sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet 
> and
> long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
> check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red 
> Line
> MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head 
> where
> things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.
>
> Sam
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:
>
>> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs, 
>> if
> you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's 
> not
> if, but when they break......
>> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side 
>> is
> very reasonable.
>> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
>> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
>> NFI, of course.
>> Have fun, Bill
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
>> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>>
>>
>>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers
> with
>>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. 
>>> Oh,
> and
>>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
> cars)
>>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>>
>>> Mike Munson
>>> #28 EP TR6
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
>>> formula
>>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>>> That's
>>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
> though.
>>> I
>>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the 
>>>> vintage
>>> races
>>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I 
>>>> also
>>>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
>>> price
>>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
> only
>>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
> today
>>> so
>>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
> and
>>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>>
>>>> Sam
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 17:47:52 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:47:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1B0C3BC8A55F4C4DA33F95EA5360812C@owner8914bbf7f>

Henry, another thought: did you hone the cylinder walls well before you 
installed the pistons/rings? Sounds like the rings have not seated.
Just wondering.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:54 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.


> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling 
> TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly. 
> Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old 
> reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 
> at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they 
> were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit 
> waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 
> miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still 
> liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes 
> away as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 18:11:43 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:11:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1316563903.42087.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Sam;
Make sure the tires are up to temp before going fast.  Having spun more
than once on an out lap on cold tires I know.  Get up to speed slowly.  The
class you had will be huge in helping you.  Kinda just do the same thing.  I
did the skip barber 3 day class.  Went to another local school and on my first
lap out in a CR (Club Rabbit) I spun.  Now after racing 6 years with the
Rabbit and my TR4 vintage car (2 years)  I spun on the out lap in the Rabbit
in August.  What an embarassment.  Tires cold and not near as sticky as the
Hoosiers i run on the TR. 
 
Just have fun and drive for yourself.  Dont worry
about impressing anyone.  
 
Mike

From: Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Cc: John Phillips <tr6 at atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, September
19, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap

YEARS ago I took a 3 day
class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
fords.  It was a blast. 
Went back a year later and did a lapping day.  That's
as far as my racing
career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
have been to
Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
and have
driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
helped Larry
Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
Last week there was a Groupon for a
day of High Speed Touring  for half price
which included a race port,
transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
down side is it is on Nov.
19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
here goes. . .  Larry even
offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any
advice?

Sam
Green Country Triumphs
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From malaboge at aol.com  Tue Sep 20 19:14:58 2011
From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:14:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE4613038FAA38-D94-823C9@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>

Henry,

>From your posts, I see 2 possible clues...
1. Huge Oil pressure
2. The car runs cool.  Never much above 160

My guess...combo of the hi pressure pushing too much oil everywhere including
into the cylinders where its washing the cylinders down, and never getting hot
enuf to seat the rings amid the wash of oil...

At this point you may have glazed the walls/rings and once you lower the OP,
you might try the ole Bon Ami trick.  If that doesnt work you may have to
re-hone and re-ring...

sometimes too much is just that...
Nick in Nor Cal





-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Sep 20, 2011 10:12 am
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.


Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling TR6
ssue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
sing just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
The details:
I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
he rings etc......
Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old reief
pring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 at
dle.
I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
he "county" brand.
A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
rom lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit waiting
n line to get in the car show.
Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 miles
ome all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still liked
o smoke.
I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
as
'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
upming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.

heers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Tue Sep 20 19:51:26 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:51:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000001cc7800$fe820a10$fb861e30$@com>

You might want to pull the plugs and check them.  If you have one or more
really bad guides those plugs are going to be really black and sooty.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Henry Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:55 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.

Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
TR6
issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.

The details:

I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
the rings etc......

Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old reief
spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 at
idle.

I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
the "county" brand.

A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.

Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.

The car runs cool.  Never much above 160

I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
waiting
in line to get in the car show.

Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 miles
home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
liked
to smoke.

I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
as
I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.

Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.


Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Sep 20 21:06:41 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:06:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<1316563903.42087.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C85B5E0DEC948D28AE5244681ABEDFD@Bud>

And Sam...remember...If things get confusing you can always just 'close your 
eyes'(:>)
RB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
Cc: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> Sam;
> Make sure the tires are up to temp before going fast.  Having spun more
> than once on an out lap on cold tires I know.  Get up to speed slowly. 
> The
> class you had will be huge in helping you.  Kinda just do the same thing. 
> I
> did the skip barber 3 day class.  Went to another local school and on my 
> first
> lap out in a CR (Club Rabbit) I spun.  Now after racing 6 years with the
> Rabbit and my TR4 vintage car (2 years)  I spun on the out lap in the 
> Rabbit
> in August.  What an embarassment.  Tires cold and not near as sticky as 
> the
> Hoosiers i run on the TR.
>
> Just have fun and drive for yourself.  Dont worry
> about impressing anyone.
>
> Mike
>
> From: Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com>
> To:
> fot at autox.team.net
> Cc: John Phillips <tr6 at atlasok.com>
> Sent: Monday, September
> 19, 2011 12:31 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
> YEARS ago I took a 3 day
> class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
> fords.  It was a blast.
> Went back a year later and did a lapping day.  That's
> as far as my racing
> career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
> have been to
> Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
> and have
> driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry
> Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a
> day of High Speed Touring  for half price
> which included a race port,
> transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
> down side is it is on Nov.
> 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
> here goes. . .  Larry even
> offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any
> advice?
>
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 20 21:36:31 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:36:31 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
Message-ID: <mailman.42.1638251573.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

Valve guides do smoke "on throttle", piston rings do smoke "off throttle".
How does your engine smoke?

Christ 
------Originalnachricht------
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Betreff: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
Gesendet: 20. Sep. 2011 22:36

Well, yeah,   I did measure the end gaps on the rings.  All were within the
specifications.  The compression numbers when I checked them after 100 or so
miles were low (90 lbs at 7000 ft.) but even.  The rings came on the pistons
and were black in color, looked like they had been plated black.

I don't think that I broke any of the rings on installation.

The machine shop told me the guides were OK when I probed them as to why they
didn't ask to replace them additionally they said if they were shot, the car
would still not use that much oil.

I may strike out at the engine physically and violently if I have to
re-rebuild it.

Cheers Henry Morrison
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 21 06:15:40 2011
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:15:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 Master Cylinders
Message-ID: <1316607340.44674.YahooMailRC@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A M I C I

Does anyone have any TR4 brake and or clutch master cylinders on their junk 
pile?
I am still looking for some original Girling stuff to rebuild for my street TR4.

Thanks
Dennis DeLap


From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 07:22:22 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:22:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
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	<CALCydYr6h95Q3so2-qtNRnas86raTqYZHN0p-Wdk2M2xDPPnfw@mail.gmail.com>
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Jason,
If your crankcase vents into your GT6 intake manifold, does it have a pcv
valve?  It will prevent drawing such a heavy vacuum on the crankcase at idle.
I finally got around to installing on on a Rover V8 with an aftermarket
4-barrel carb conversion and the oil consumption dropped by a huge amount.
Duncan
(Texas)

On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> The smoking bothers me more than the consumption. Most often that symptom
is
> a sign that its time for a rebuild due to ring wear.
> My GT6 drinks oil like a college kid at a keg party. About a quart for
every
> 30 min session. I often wonder where it's going?
> I've been trying to figure that out for two seasons now.
> But now the smoking I have, exactly as you describe, tells me its time for
a
> rebuild.
> Unfortunately, the cheap pistons and rings my not have been a wise choice.
> But hind sight is 20/20.
> You're past your break in point already, use the heaviest oil it'll run on
> and get some fun out of it.
> Put a diaper (wads of heavy paper towels) anywhere you think it might be
> leaking to be sure the smoking isn't from oil leaking on the hot stuff and
> also to tell you how much it may be leaking.
> Some easy little things that may help a bit.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
wrote:
>
>> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
>> TR6
>> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
>> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>>
>> The details:
>>
>> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.
Staggered
>> the rings etc......
>>
>> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old
>> reief
>> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50
>> at
>> idle.
>>
>> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they
were
>> the "county" brand.
>>
>> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>>
>> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>>
>> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>>
>> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
>> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
>> waiting
>> in line to get in the car show.
>>
>> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20
>> miles
>> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
>> liked
>> to smoke.
>>
>> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes
away
>> as
>> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>>
>> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
>> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
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>>
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 21 11:21:56 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:21:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
	<EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
	<82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <82443487-2DBA-4298-8904-1BB9C5CEBC8B@yahoo.com>

Sam,

I have broken the rear axle with auto cross and street use only. I have
witnessed one breaking in an HPDE event. These incidents were not full time
racing. To expand on what Bill said these axles were broken when they cut the
keyway in, it is just a matter of time before they finish breaking. We warned
you, good luck!

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet and
long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red Line
MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head where
things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.
>
> Sam
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:
>
>> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs,
if you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's
not if, but when they break......
>> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side is
very reasonable.
>> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
>> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
>> NFI, of course.
>> Have fun, Bill
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
>> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>>
>>
>>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers
with
>>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and
>>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars)
>>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>>
>>> Mike Munson
>>> #28 EP TR6
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
>>> formula
>>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>>> That's
>>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
>>> I
>>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
>>> races
>>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>>>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
>>> price
>>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
only
>>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
today
>>> so
>>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>>
>>>> Sam
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From dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 21 12:17:02 2011
From: dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net (dale oesterle)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:17:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Link
Message-ID: <1316629022.18664.yint-ygo-j2me@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This is the best thing ever http://www.giayhoa.com/info.html Check it!


From greenman62 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 21 13:54:06 2011
From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (Greg Petrolati)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:54:06 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 Master Cylinders
In-Reply-To: <1316607340.44674.YahooMailRC@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1316607340.44674.YahooMailRC@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT111-W244D673D947A36A6851BEFD20D0@phx.gbl>

Hi Dennis,

Check with Pegasus... the last time I looked I found new clutch MCs there. I
think they're use in F Fords etc...

I don't know what you will do for the brakes tho... maybe Roadster Factory?

Greg Petrolati   Lafayette, Oregon



That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory...





> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:15:40 -0700
> From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> CC: isoa at googlegroups.com
> Subject: [Fot] TR4 Master Cylinders
>
> A M I C I
>
> Does anyone have any TR4 brake and or clutch master cylinders on their junk
> pile?
> I am still looking for some original Girling stuff to rebuild for my street
TR4.
>
> Thanks
> Dennis DeLap
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From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Sep 21 14:55:02 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:55:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Link
In-Reply-To: <1316629022.18664.yint-ygo-j2me@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1316629022.18664.yint-ygo-j2me@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3B60D839A313430CAC0D5E0138057E46@Vista>

Really?  You are now spamming the FOT list with Drug advertisements?  Or is
this just another high jacked way to send spam? 

-----Original Message-----
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From spitfiresuz at 141.com  Wed Sep 21 15:17:27 2011
From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:17:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Link
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Spam! Don't check!     ;)

On 9/21/2011 2:17 PM, dale oesterle wrote:
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From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Wed Sep 21 20:10:53 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:53 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Link
In-Reply-To: <3B60D839A313430CAC0D5E0138057E46@Vista>
References: <1316629022.18664.yint-ygo-j2me@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<3B60D839A313430CAC0D5E0138057E46@Vista>
Message-ID: <096e01cc78cc$dc037f60$940a7e20$@rr.com>

> Really?  You are now spamming the FOT list with Drug advertisements?
> Or is
> this just another high jacked way to send spam?

I believe it is bogus, and did not come from Dale at all.  It was apparently
sent through Yahoo mail with Dale's "From" address, but Dale has a real ISP.

-- Randall 


From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Sep 21 21:31:16 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:31:16 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR250K
Message-ID: <93724D21959040D5A9C0AD9E22500E46@Vista>

Hey gang, the TR250K made a cameo appearance on the Car Show tonight!

 

Joe C.


From ac at camoletti.ch  Thu Sep 22 04:11:10 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:11:10 +0200
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, survey results
Message-ID: <000c01cc790f$f3a57900$daf06b00$@camoletti.ch>

Amici!
Following my survey about LSD 3 weeks ago, I got at some point very confused
and was really hesitating hard between Quaife and Salisbury plate types:
I will drive the car on snow, and on the dry I tend to lift rear wheels
(live axle car), and go on sometimes uneven grip surfaces, so Salisbury more
appropriate on real roads.
But the Salisbury needs maintenance (coating on the clutches wears and need
replacement), heats a lot, and gets soon noisy.
So not great for a road car.
At that point I was really thinking of getting a Quaife: gear driven, no
maintenance, no noise. But spinning wheel lifted or on loose surface will
not lock. Plus the Quaife will try to counteract tail sliding, while the
Salisbury will help getting it smooth.
Price was not an issue as here in Europe they have approx. the same price.
At that point Keith Files (Kastner Cup winner 2010) came up with the Gripper
diff he has now on his TR6. The Gripper inventor was into the Jaguar
engineering racing team during the Le Mans years and he did a lot of
transmission development.
Keith tried it in his 207BHP TR6 at Silverstone and at the Nurburgring.
Performs brilliantly.
No noises (usually after an hour the Salisbury TranX gets noisy and clonks)
.
No need to rebuild so far (while with the traditional LSD a rebuild would be
needed after 3-4 hours already).
Progressive action also.
The Gripper is a refined design of the Salisbury plate type. The plates wear
very slowly as they are not coated, they just bead in each other. So no
noise coming in while the coatings wear. Replacement plates are very cheap
as they have no special coating (# 3 or so each).
Seems like the best of both worlds.
So I ordered a Gripper this morning to Simon, TR Enterprises, cost # 700
+tax (same as TranX traditional Salisbury type and Quaife gear LSD), Specs
40/65 ramp angles and 8 clutch plates fitted (instead a 12 for race track
use, which gives more locking, but one can just add the 4 plates to modify
the diff in full race form at any time).
Thank you very much to Keith, Kas, Teri Ann, Joe Curry, Bob Lang, Tony(both:
Drew+ Sheach), Chuck Arnold, Jim Gray and Joe Alexander for their very
informative and useful feedbacks.

Gripper website, with interesting tech drawings:
http://www.davemacprops.com/gripper.html

All the best!
Alex Camoletti


From ac at camoletti.ch  Thu Sep 22 04:11:40 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:11:40 +0200
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?StayUp=C2=AE_Floats_for_SU_Carburetters?=
In-Reply-To: <OHWEBSERVER4lb9rXg500002e50@OHWEBSERVER4.openhosts.com>
References: <OHWEBSERVER4lb9rXg500002e50@OHWEBSERVER4.openhosts.com>
Message-ID: <000d01cc7910$05d34030$1179c090$@camoletti.ch>

Amici,

The SU carburetter company in the UK (original manufacturer of our SU carbs)
just released so called unsinkable floats, see
http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ProductCategory.aspx?ParentId=277

It may be interesting.

Enjoy the we and for the ones on the track, have great races!

Alex Camoletti



De : info at sucarb.co.uk [mailto:info at sucarb.co.uk]
EnvoyC) : samedi 14 mai 2011 05:05
Objet : StayUpB. Floats for SU Carburetters



Greetings from The SU Carburetter Company,

We are pleased to introduce to you a new range of bunsinkableb floats made
by StayUpB..

The floats have been developed alongside the successful release of a similar
design by The AMAL Carburetter Company for their motorcycle Carburetters. They
are constructed from a military spec material designed for use in the warzone
where a fail safe operation of floating devices is critical. The material,
which is foam filled, will continue to float even when punctured and is
resistant to ethanol based fuels. All floats have been designed by SU to match
the original specifications of size and weight for the standard items b this
ensures easy replacement and float level settings.

The first to be released are the large T4 and medium T2 size floats for most
H, HV and HD type Carburetters with the smaller T1 size coming soon. HS type
Carburetter versions are also available now.

Spitfire House, Castle Road, Salisbury, Wiltshire, SP1 3SB, England -
Registered in England & Wales: Reg No. 2005550
Tel: 00 44 (0)1722 412500 - Fax: 00 44 (0)1722 334221 - Email:
<mailto:info at sucarb.co.uk?subject=SU-Per%20Charged%20Mailshot>
info at sucarb.co.uk - Website:  <http://www.sucarb.co.uk/> www.sucarb.co.uk
The SU Carburetter Company is a division of Burlen Fuel Systems Limited.


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Sep 22 08:10:32 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:10:32 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR250K
References: <93724D21959040D5A9C0AD9E22500E46@Vista>
Message-ID: <79D00196DB41442DBFD6296DCE2295B9@Charly>

If you look closely, you'll also see a shot of the paddock area with Mordy's 
car mostly highlighted, about 1 1/2 seconds, and the TR3 racer as well.  It 
then shows the TR250K and Adam asks what a strange looking car.  It airs 
again on Saturday.
I didn't see them there taping the show, but they were there the same time 
we had the Kastner Cup there.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Curry" <spitlist at cox.net>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR250K


> Hey gang, the TR250K made a cameo appearance on the Car Show tonight!
>
>
>
> Joe C.
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Thu Sep 22 10:30:18 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:30:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] StayUpR Floats for SU Carburetters
In-Reply-To: <000d01cc7910$05d34030$1179c090$@camoletti.ch>
References: <OHWEBSERVER4lb9rXg500002e50@OHWEBSERVER4.openhosts.com>
	<000d01cc7910$05d34030$1179c090$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <000901cc7944$ed800970$c8801c50$@com>

Report on similar floats from Joe Curto:
We got two of Joe's floats last spring, which are similar to the SU floats,
and installed them.  We ran 3 events this summer and have had no problems.
Carbs are H6's.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:12 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] StayUpR Floats for SU Carburetters

Amici,

The SU carburetter company in the UK (original manufacturer of our SU carbs)
just released so called unsinkable floats, see
http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ProductCategory.aspx?ParentId=277

It may be interesting.

Enjoy the we and for the ones on the track, have great races!

Alex Camoletti



De : info at sucarb.co.uk [mailto:info at sucarb.co.uk]
EnvoyC) : samedi 14 mai 2011 05:05
Objet : StayUpB. Floats for SU Carburetters



Greetings from The SU Carburetter Company,

We are pleased to introduce to you a new range of bunsinkableb floats made
by StayUpB..

The floats have been developed alongside the successful release of a similar
design by The AMAL Carburetter Company for their motorcycle Carburetters.
They
are constructed from a military spec material designed for use in the
warzone
where a fail safe operation of floating devices is critical. The material,
which is foam filled, will continue to float even when punctured and is
resistant to ethanol based fuels. All floats have been designed by SU to
match
the original specifications of size and weight for the standard items b
this
ensures easy replacement and float level settings.

The first to be released are the large T4 and medium T2 size floats for most
H, HV and HD type Carburetters with the smaller T1 size coming soon. HS type
Carburetter versions are also available now.

Spitfire House, Castle Road, Salisbury, Wiltshire, SP1 3SB, England -
Registered in England & Wales: Reg No. 2005550
Tel: 00 44 (0)1722 412500 - Fax: 00 44 (0)1722 334221 - Email:
<mailto:info at sucarb.co.uk?subject=SU-Per%20Charged%20Mailshot>
info at sucarb.co.uk - Website:  <http://www.sucarb.co.uk/> www.sucarb.co.uk
The SU Carburetter Company is a division of Burlen Fuel Systems Limited.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep 22 14:59:52 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:59:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Runoffs Grid for EP
Message-ID: <CALCydYo6GA9yw27=U6GabJdW3RgTampzHv0-hASXTB0b3MKJUg@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like the final grid is set for the SCCA National Championship Runoffs
for EP. Our Friend Sam Halkias is starting fourth in the Catawaba Island
Marina TR6. He is surrounded by a bunch of different types of Mazda's all
with very similar qualifying times. Pole position qualified about two
seconds ahead of Sam and the 2nd and 3rd place cars about 1 second. So he
will have a tough race for the podium... but we know of the 34 cars on the
grid he has the coolest car and best chance.

The last qualifying session for FP starts at 4:10 and that will set the
final grid for the Group. I usual domination, Steve Sargis in his Spitfire
has been topping the charts and should take the pole.

Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep 22 18:09:41 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:09:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Runoffs Grid for FP and HP
Message-ID: <CALCydYovc8uuVWn9_vYJJugujbxhgPJ9HzNui=PycCx3QdENKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Steve Sargis is on top again with the pole in FP with a blistering time of
2:31.9
Also, Two other Spitfire 1500's in FP... Dieter Griesinger in 11th and Cris
Patrick in 14th.

In HP there are 3 Spitfires filling the field of 22 cars.
6th Jamie Blust
17th Tom Broring
20th Robert "Rocky" Entriken

All races can be viewed live on www.speedcasttv.com/*scca*

FP Friday at 1:30 pm
HP Sun at 8:30am
EP Sun at 1:30 pm

Lets go Triumphs!
Lets Go FOT!

Cheers!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Sep 23 18:13:48 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:13:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Racing Parts for sale
Message-ID: <8CE4865F71272A4-2AE4-571C7@webmail-m024.sysops.aol.com>

sounds like a spitfire spring and tr4 parts for sale.

got this from a friend.....

any interest?

Steve Yott pump is a hard to get item these days.

i might be interested in the pistons as spares






To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 20, 2011 8:07 pm
Subject: Racing Parts



Joe:
 I came across a lot of new racing parts for various Triumphs that I am
interested in selling.  One of which is a new competition fiberglass rear leaf
spring with three different aluminum spacer blocks.  I am not interested in
the spitfire parts as I have a TR4 and TR6 that I run autocross.  Ibd like
to find a good home for this part and have no idea on its value or where it
was purchased.  Do you have any idea  who sells them and who might be
interested in it? I have attached four pics of the item. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. I also have the following new parts for TR4 and 4A:
Richard Good Roller Rocker Set 1.55:1
TR4A Fidanza Aluminum flywheel
Moss Aluminum water pump housing and aluminum water pump
Moss 45D Race distributor with points
Aluminum front engine plate (gee, I wonder where this one came from)
TR4 cam shaft (new , not reground. 270 duration) This is a brand new (new
blank, not reground) high performance cam shaft for your Triumph TR3 or TR4.
It has a 270 Piper cams  grind
Triumph TR2-TR4A high performance oil pump by Steve Yott.
Set of fully machined and matched connecting rods for TR2-TR4A with ARP
hardware
Four new .030 pistons that I believe are for the TR2-4A connecting rods.
Still need to verify

Hope all is well and many thanks


From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 23 22:18:02 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:18:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
Message-ID: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I am still chasing the leak out of the oil pressure leak adjustment screw. 
After setting the oil pressure on my motor new for this season it has been
leaking all summer.  It looks to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems to
have them in their catalogs.   
 
Has anyone else had this type of leak?  Any
suggestions on how to fix/reduce the leak would be appriciated.
 
Thanks!! 
Mike Mehl
 

From: Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
To: 'Triumph Friends of'
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:30 PM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)

>  The seal
I
> referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have 
> any
thoughts on
> fixing this leak?

TRF shows P/N 500328 in stock.

-- Randall 
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sat Sep 24 00:53:35 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:53:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
	<1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <081b01cc7a86$ae6d3260$0301a8c0@randall>

>  After setting the oil pressure on my motor 
> new for this season it has been leaking all summer.  It looks 
> to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems to have them in 
> their catalogs.   

One of my references calls 30123 "wire, lead".  A quick examination of a
relatively unmolested filter head shows something that might be lead.

So I'd probably try a turn of ordinary solder.

-- Randall  


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sat Sep 24 07:00:52 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:00:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] RACING PARTS FOR SALE
Message-ID: <8CE48D11FBD1EDF-1DE4-9BC99@webmail-d172.sysops.aol.com>

CONTACT INFORMATION:

JIM HENNINGSEN
trguy at cfl.rr.com

NFI


From N197TR4 at cs.com  Sat Sep 24 08:15:01 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:15:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Racing Parts
Message-ID: <1d622.299a971a.3baf3fe5@cs.com>

Contact:

Jim Henningsen

trguy at cfl.rr.com</HTML>


From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Sat Sep 24 09:15:18 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:15:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
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References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
	<1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E7DF406.2010604@blacksburg.net>

On 9/24/2011 12:18 AM, Mike Mehl wrote:
> I am still chasing the leak out of the oil pressure leak adjustment screw.
> After setting the oil pressure on my motor new for this season it has been
> leaking all summer.  It looks to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems to
> have them in their catalogs.
>
> Has anyone else had this type of leak?  Any
> suggestions on how to fix/reduce the leak would be appriciated.
>
> Thanks!!
> Mike Mehl
>    

Mike, I've successfully used a couple of turns of thin (~0.03) lead 
solder, then ensure that the jam nut is tight.  Keep the ends close so 
that they'll squeeze together and form the lead washer.

jim

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go


From stlnyc at msn.com  Sat Sep 24 16:33:59 2011
From: stlnyc at msn.com (Fred & Mary Hodgson)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:33:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Opinions
Message-ID: <SNT125-W19559920285E4590C1D339DA0E0@phx.gbl>

Amici-

Has anyone used Dunlop Direzzas on a race car?  If so, how'd they work & what
pressures were you running?  I'm running a '62 TR4.

Thanks in advance.

Fred Hodgson


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sat Sep 24 17:23:40 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:23:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Racing Parts
In-Reply-To: <018101cc7b0d$3eaabd30$bc003790$@rr.com>
References: <003601cc77fa$c42944b0$4c7bce10$@rr.com>
	<8CE48650E55609E-2AE4-57130@webmail-m024.sysops.aol.com>
	<00fa01cc7a50$c21b4080$4651c180$@rr.com>
	<8CE48D1C1F09483-1DE4-9BE0F@webmail-d172.sysops.aol.com>
	<018101cc7b0d$3eaabd30$bc003790$@rr.com>
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Jim identifies the pistons as spitfire, if you are interested.

72mm






-----Original Message-----
From: James Henningsen <trguy at cfl.rr.com>
To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 24, 2011 5:56 pm
Subject: RE: Racing Parts



Joe: the pistons are AE +.030 Spitfire and not TR3 or TR4. The had a diameter
on the top of 72mm.
Jim Henningsen


From: n197tr4 at cs.com [mailto:n197tr4 at cs.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:05 AM


From pvucinic at netspace.net.au  Sat Sep 24 17:57:14 2011
From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 09:57:14 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
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References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
	<1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Mike,
Use a piece of solder wire from a coil of solder. Works perfectly. Have used
it for years with no leaks.


Kind Regards
Peter Vucinic
TR-4
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-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Mehl
Sent: Saturday, 24 September 2011 2:18 PM
To: Randall; 'Triumph Friends of'
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4

I am still chasing the leak out of the oil pressure leak adjustment screw. 
After setting the oil pressure on my motor new for this season it has been
leaking all summer.  It looks to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems
to
have them in their catalogs.   
 
Has anyone else had this type of leak?  Any
suggestions on how to fix/reduce the leak would be appriciated.
 
Thanks!! 
Mike Mehl
 

From: Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
To: 'Triumph Friends of'
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:30 PM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)

>  The seal
I
> referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have 
> any
thoughts on
> fixing this leak?

TRF shows P/N 500328 in stock.

-- Randall 
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From jason at multivintage.com  Sun Sep 25 09:12:40 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:12:40 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Runoff performance
Message-ID: <mailman.43.1638251573.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

Sargis was on top in fp on friday, dominating flag to flag. Cris patrick 12th, and Griesinger 20th.

A hard charging FOT'er "Rocky" Entriken moved up many spots to finish 11th in HP.
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From kaskas at cox.net  Sun Sep 25 13:54:00 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:54:00 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race
Message-ID: <SNT120-W37E5109F7CDD108F356BE7DFF20@phx.gbl>

Who has entered for the Las Vegas VARA race in October?

Never be beaten by equipment Race


From jason at multivintage.com  Sun Sep 25 15:11:27 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:11:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] EP final results
Message-ID: <CALCydYp_fg+G1OEeqmHqtJHNNP46whFD=poR_uKE=7wPv3T6rg@mail.gmail.com>

Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by David
Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit halfway
over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the field
found their way into the kitty litter.
In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
fourth.
Way to go Sam!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From Gt6steve at aol.com  Sun Sep 25 15:42:14 2011
From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 17:42:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race
Message-ID: <3d762.2cb3cad.3bb0fa36@aol.com>

Funny you should ask, I was just thinking the same thing...
 
 
Me for one.
 
 
In a message dated 9/25/2011 2:35:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
kaskas at cox.net writes:

Who has  entered for the Las Vegas VARA race in October?

Never be beaten by  equipment  Race
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From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM  Mon Sep 26 07:18:55 2011
From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:18:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Opinions
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I have run them on my track day miata.  They are a 200 wear rating so not real
soft and overall wear is pretty good.  They are a very good tire in the rain!

John

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Of Fred & Mary Hodgson
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:34 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Opinions

Amici-

Has anyone used Dunlop Direzzas on a race car?  If so, how'd they work & what
pressures were you running?  I'm running a '62 TR4.

Thanks in advance.

Fred Hodgson
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From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM  Mon Sep 26 07:19:25 2011
From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:19:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Opinions
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I am running around 25 lbs cold

John

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Amici-

Has anyone used Dunlop Direzzas on a race car?  If so, how'd they work & what
pressures were you running?  I'm running a '62 TR4.

Thanks in advance.

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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 26 08:58:56 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:58:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Brief Sebring RiffRAF Racing Report
Message-ID: <1317049136.42585.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Proud to say the FOT flag flew high (thanks, Chris!) over the 14 Hours of
ChumpCar at Sebring this weekend...on the other hand, RiffRAF did not have a
smooth trip.  Details below for those interested, pictures at
http://www.awolphoto.com/keyword/09242011-chumpcar-0#1498444314_CSPd5qw:
 
Race started out well once we finally got 4 tires on 4 useable wheels...thanks
Yarborough Tire in Sebring, they succeeded where others couldn't, although we
still couldn't mount Dunlops on Cal 500's. 

Ted Schumacher, Brian (Ted's
son), Jack McGahey, Joe Downer and I were drivers. Special thanks to Scott who
helped us fuel again as he did last year!

Special thanks to Kevin/Robert/Mr.
Andrews/Steven for helping to get the car ready even though they weren't
coming to the race.

We had pit position #1 again (beginning of pits) which
worked out nicely.

I started the race, I think the green flew with us in
about the middle of the 61 cars that started. Worked my way up to about 14th
and then ran out of gas with 15 mins left in stint. This made/makes no sense,
but I and someone else both checked the fuel level before the race, so we
could only assume the car actually used that much fuel. Changed driving stints
to 1-1/2 hours for rest of race and Lacey continued to use the same amount of
fuel, so it's either the track or something else in the car changed
(unlikely). There certainly was a lot of foot to the floor time in a Sebring
lap. 

Crash truck service left a lot to be desired. They asked me if my crew
was planning on bringing out gas to me... (!) They could learn a lot from Iowa
Speedway...

I will say that I enjoyed driving the track as much or more than
any track we've been to. It's not ideally suited to Lacey's lack of power but
it's REALLY fun to drive!!!!!

Jack got in the car and was doing great, then
spun close to the end of his stint. We're still not exactly sure what happened
but from this point on, the car would only fire on 5 cylinders. Turned Brian
loose in the car and kept bringing him in trying to diagnose the miss. Traced
to cylinder 3, replaced plug, wire, rotor, cap...no luck. Started to miss
more, pitted long time, found plug/piston contact. Not good. Pulled two
pushrods and kept going.

That's pretty much the story from there on out. Joe
showed us again that he's our ace by coming within 10 seconds of my best lap
on only 5 cylinders (!). 

Major lightning stopped the race for about 2 hours.
We ended up 29th (out of 61), passing a Volvo 740 in the final minutes to take
that spot.

No car-car contact for us for entire race, and LOTS of cars went
off track where we did not (Jack stayed on track during his spin, but car
stalled). More cars dropped out of this one on a percentage basis than any
other race we've been to (by my estimate only 50% of the cars entered were
running at the end, and it may have been fewer than that).  Winning car was a
'96 Nissan 300ZX...very, very quick!


From spitracer1296 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 26 09:27:57 2011
From: spitracer1296 at yahoo.com (chris crisenbery)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for contact info. for Rick Parent
Message-ID: <1317050877.91242.YahooMailNeo@web113809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey Group,
 
I'm looking for contact info. for Rick Parent, the last e-mail
address I had bounced back to me.  He might even be a member of this group?
 
If possible please send me an e-mail or forward mine to him.
 
Thanks
 
Chris
Crisenbery
 
spitracer1296 at yahoo.com


From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Mon Sep 26 09:45:18 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 clutch
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All of a sudden, smelling the clutch and a struggle to get in gear.  Is there
any adjustment or is it clutch replace time?  What is a good TR6 clutch
replacement that can take some punishment?  Thanks, Jim


From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Sep 26 10:52:08 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:52:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] EP final results
Message-ID: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>

In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by 
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit 
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the 
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
> 
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"  
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race under 
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue 
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The 
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position because 
of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their 
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were unfortunate 
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with 
straightaway speed.  

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th 
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.  
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda 
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but 
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why 
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm 
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself comfortable with 
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from 
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this 
year.

Bill Dentinger


From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Sep 26 11:19:50 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:19:50 +0000
Subject: [Fot] EP final results
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Hand picked parts, yes. Legal no. 
Just heard from Sam, the Honda was thrown out for a bit too much compression. Moving him up to 3rd. 
The plot thickens. 
Jason, FGR
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-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin at aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:52:08 
To: <jason at multivintage.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results

In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by 
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit 
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the 
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
> 
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"  
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race under 
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue 
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The 
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position because 
of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their 
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were unfortunate 
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with 
straightaway speed.  

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th 
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.  
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda 
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but 
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why 
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm 
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself comfortable with 
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from 
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this 
year.

Bill Dentinger


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon Sep 26 12:31:34 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:31:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
 3rd.
In-Reply-To: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>
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 Sam went podium after Hobb's Sponsored Prelude was DQ'd    flagrant
infractions reported.

Accolades went to Rocky Entriken for his involvement in SCCA, by the
announcers.

Sargis   :   flag to flag   what more can you say.

THE FOT SHINES IN A VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT










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From: BillDentin <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: jason <jason at multivintage.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results


In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
>
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race under
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position
because

of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were unfortunate
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with
straightaway speed.

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself
comfortable
with
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this
year.

Bill Dentinger
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Mon Sep 26 14:21:42 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:21:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
 3rd.
In-Reply-To: <8CE4A91A76313AD-C38-A61C4@webmail-d045.sysops.aol.com>
References: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>
	<8CE4A91A76313AD-C38-A61C4@webmail-d045.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <002a01cc7c89$e7a58550$b6f08ff0$@rr.com>

Well, in SCCA, it's only cheating if you get caught!
Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:32 PM
To: BillDentin at aol.com; jason at multivintage.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
3rd.

 Sam went podium after Hobb's Sponsored Prelude was DQ'd    flagrant
infractions reported.

Accolades went to Rocky Entriken for his involvement in SCCA, by the
announcers.

Sargis   :   flag to flag   what more can you say.

THE FOT SHINES IN A VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT










-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: jason <jason at multivintage.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results


In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
>
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race
under
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position
because

of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were
unfortunate
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with
straightaway speed.

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself
comfortable
with
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this
year.

Bill Dentinger
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From smockracer at charter.net  Mon Sep 26 18:17:28 2011
From: smockracer at charter.net (Paul Smock )
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:17:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race
References: <SNT120-W37E5109F7CDD108F356BE7DFF20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <12EAEDD7320F4715952240DEEF0DBD3B@fred>

I will be there. Paul #190 TR4A
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 12:54 PM
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race


> Who has entered for the Las Vegas VARA race in October?
>
> Never be beaten by equipment Race
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Sep 26 20:26:07 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:26:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Mallory distributor with Unilite electronic breakerless
 conversion
References: <83D36A77-95FE-4A6B-9257-071219AA58A1@REcatalyst.com>
Message-ID: <B2184CB6-C633-4C2F-944E-B16248CF2437@me.com>

I am in the process of installing one of these in my former 'dual point' Mallory distributor on my GT6.  The wiring diagram indicates a variable resistor should be installed in the ignition circuit, before the coil, of 0.7-2.0 ohms.  Mallory tech indicated that if the ignition coil itself has a resistance of 1.3-2.4 ohms, no supplemental resistor is needed.  they indicated that anything under 1.3 or over 2.4 was problematic.  At my last outing, chasing ignition problems, I tested two Bosch blue coils I had with someone else's multimeter and got a reading of 1.4 ohms, so I figured I  was all set.  Now, home in the garage, with my own multimeter, I am getting a reading of 3.4 ohms on the Bosch and 3.2 ohms on a brand new Lucas gold coil.  

So, is my meter inaccurate?  If anyone can check a coil and tell me what they find, that  would be great.  Second, is anyone using the Unilite set-up, and if so, what combination of coil and resistance are you using?

Thanks!


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 27 00:10:03 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:10:03 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Message-ID: <mailman.45.1638251573.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

Dear FOT,

I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly and sometimes it lasts aons.

For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:

1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
2. Teeth with camfered edges

In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock gear wheel.

Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp edged cams too?

I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better protection. Any idea if that will work?

Cheers
Chris
Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone


From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 27 05:28:38 2011
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:28:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
 3rd.
In-Reply-To: <002a01cc7c89$e7a58550$b6f08ff0$@rr.com>
References: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>
	<8CE4A91A76313AD-C38-A61C4@webmail-d045.sysops.aol.com>
	<002a01cc7c89$e7a58550$b6f08ff0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <1317122918.92250.YahooMailNeo@web125708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Apparently he needed Kas to explain the rules to the Stewards.


From:
Spitfire Racing <Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com>
To: n197tr4 at cs.com;
BillDentin at aol.com; jason at multivintage.com; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday,
September 26, 2011 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd
Sam went to well desrved 3rd.

Well, in SCCA, it's only cheating if you get
caught!
Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Monday,
September 26, 2011 2:32 PM
To: BillDentin at aol.com; jason at multivintage.com;
fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went
to well desrved
3rd.

Sam went podium after Hobb's Sponsored Prelude was DQ'd 
  flagrant
infractions reported.

Accolades went to Rocky Entriken for his
involvement in SCCA, by the
announcers.

Sargis  :  flag to flag  what more
can you say.

THE FOT SHINES IN A VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT
-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: jason
<jason at multivintage.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011
1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results


In a message dated 09/25/2011
5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam
Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain.
Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by
> David
> Hobbs no
less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and
got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit
> halfway
> over the
rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather
quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire
wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the
> field
> found their
way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he
finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
>
I too watched the EP race
on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"
Actually, all of the drivers
that drove in a National Championship race
under
those conditions deserve
kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue
getting sideways and off circuit
coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The
announcers claim the corner worker
had signaled Sam to hold his position
because

of oncoming traffic.  But who
can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their
signal, or the heat of the moment
took over, but the results were
unfortunate
for the then 5th placed car. 
Sam's car is really impressive with
straightaway speed.

But I was also
impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th
to 3rd in the
race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.
Talk about a Swamp
Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda
as his sponsor, did
he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but
hand picked parts to
build a very special engine).  But were that so, why
did he only qualify
26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm
convinced it's far more
likely he's an ice racer that found himself
comfortable
with
those slippery
conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from
26th to 3rd had to
be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this
year.

Bill Dentinger
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From mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 27 08:41:20 2011
From: mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net (mrcpt1@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate
Message-ID: <1317134480.72951.YahooMailRC@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello , does anyone have a TR-4 deck-plate in the Chicago area ? 

Thanks Mike
.


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 27 09:53:34 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:53:34 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <20110918203241.091471879B6@autox.team.net>
References: <20110918203241.091471879B6@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <001401cc7d2d$9f4f33b0$dded9b10$@com>

Another video of the event. There will be a DVD with a lot more coverage:

http://www.racingtv.de/2009/Automobil/Magazin_2011/Triumph_Eifelrennen/c_716

Cheers
Chris


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Tue Sep 27 10:11:54 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:11:54 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate
In-Reply-To: <1317134480.72951.YahooMailRC@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1317134480.72951.YahooMailRC@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F0311FE@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

I have two and I'd like to sell one. If someone in the Chicago area would like
to be the custodian please contact me.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
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Of mrcpt1 at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:41 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate

Hello , does anyone have a TR-4 deck-plate in the Chicago area ?

Thanks Mike
.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 27 11:40:55 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:40:55 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate
Message-ID: <mailman.46.1638251573.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

I regularly receive UPS and fedex packages at my antique store in Brookfield, 10 miles west of Chicago. Happy to accept a Triumph part free of charge for FOT.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
Wonderland Multivintage
3731 Grand blvd
Brookfield IL 60513 
(708)387-0890
------Original Message------
From: Kramer, Robert
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: mrcpt1 at sbcglobal.net
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Deck Plate
Sent: Sep 27, 2011 11:11 AM

I have two and I'd like to sell one. If someone in the Chicago area would like
to be the custodian please contact me.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:41 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate

Hello , does anyone have a TR-4 deck-plate in the Chicago area ?

Thanks Mike
.
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Tue Sep 27 11:47:04 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:47:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Mallory Unilite set-up on TR4
Message-ID: <1926EB44-87E4-4685-AD64-D8E88D59F962@aol.com>

Scott,

I went with all Mallory when I converted my Dual Point to Unilite:  
Promaster Coil MAL-30440, Ballast resistor MAL-700, Pro SIdewinder 8mm  
Wire Set. I had purchased a Hyfire Ign control, too, but found it not  
necessary at my revs (below 6500). It's been trouble free for 6 years!  
Changed out to replacement coil last year only because original got  
loose in the mounting bracket and I wondered about vibration effects.  
The guy at Century Performance, Reno, Nevada seemed very knowledgeable.

John Frymark


From capecoventryracing at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 13:04:21 2011
From: capecoventryracing at gmail.com (John Nikas)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:04:21 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Article
Message-ID: <CACWViu_srJL-EGRF++1aYa1qe=FmYHhvUGvVMYneniUJuZp=XA@mail.gmail.com>

Everyone. The news article on this year's Kastner Cup race appears in the
November issue of Vintage Racecar which should be on the news stands in 2
weeks. It's well written and gives proper credit to 2011 winner Jerry Barker
for punching above his weight to secure the win. By the way, if anyone wants
to do a write up of the Euro Cup I can ask Casey to put it in the next
issue. Also, if you have not received a shirt that was paid for (except for
Barry Munson which was just sent) please let me know off list.

-- 
Very truly yours,

John Nikas
Cape Coventry Racing
www.capecoventryracing.com
(949) 375-6306


From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Tue Sep 27 13:34:38 2011
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:34:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
References: <20110927071958.AF091187870@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <36E91246C71942A09FD163F8EA681835@TRIUMPH.local>

Are you talking about OEM reground cams or new chilled iron cams?

I have never seen the issue on an OEM cam, but I have seen it countless 
times on new cams. Cutting that gear is pretty tricky, I suppose.

My solution is only run regrinds.

As far as your question about nitriding, if the cam gear is not cut right, 
hardening will just waste more money.

Henry
yellow04 at tr4racer.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:10 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure


> Dear FOT,
>
> I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly 
> and sometimes it lasts aons.
>
> For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:
>
> 1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
> 2. Teeth with camfered edges
>
> In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock 
> gear wheel.
>
> Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp 
> edged cams too?
>
> I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better 
> protection. Any idea if that will work?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
> Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 27 14:32:08 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:32:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Message-ID: <mailman.47.1638251573.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

That was my impress that the stock items do work properly.
Why it is so difficult to make this gear? Is there a mistake value in the blue prints?
A reground cam never can do the same profile as a new blank.
Maybe it is time to find out more about this issue and solve it.

------Originalnachricht------
Von: yellow04 at tr4racer.com
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
An: fot
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Gesendet: 27. Sep. 2011 21:34

Are you talking about OEM reground cams or new chilled iron cams?

I have never seen the issue on an OEM cam, but I have seen it countless 
times on new cams. Cutting that gear is pretty tricky, I suppose.

My solution is only run regrinds.

As far as your question about nitriding, if the cam gear is not cut right, 
hardening will just waste more money.

Henry
yellow04 at tr4racer.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:10 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure


> Dear FOT,
>
> I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly 
> and sometimes it lasts aons.
>
> For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:
>
> 1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
> 2. Teeth with camfered edges
>
> In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock 
> gear wheel.
>
> Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp 
> edged cams too?
>
> I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better 
> protection. Any idea if that will work?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
> Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone
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From atr6racer at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 27 14:47:27 2011
From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:47:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup/laguna
Message-ID: <SNT136-W36F36B5625440859FF26F1F9F00@phx.gbl>

One of the shows I DVR is "The Car Show" with Adam Corolla. (Probably because
I miss "The Man show" with "Girls jumping on trampolines") The September 21
episode featured his run in his  Bob Sharp Datsun 610 on the same weekend we
held the Kastner Cup event. Some of the footage captured our FOT'ers with a
quick shot of TR row with Mordy's TR4, a shot of the TR250K coming back in the
paddock and being called " the strangest looking car I've ever seen" by a
host, and the final shot was Hardy's TR3 which the Host's loudly declared it
"a real man's car!" They replay those episodes constantly so try and catch it
it you can.

Sam Halkias


From jaboruch at netzero.net  Wed Sep 28 20:00:43 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:00:43 GMT
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Message-ID: <20110928.220043.12718.0@webmail59.dca.untd.com>

You can do what I did - ditch the distributor and oil pump, and then run a dry
sump pump and crank fired ignition.  I think, however, that vintage race
organizations would frown on that.  Joe(B)

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To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:10:03 +0000

Dear FOT,

I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly and
sometimes it lasts aons.

For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:

1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
2. Teeth with camfered edges

In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock gear
wheel.

Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp edged
cams too?

I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better
protection. Any idea if that will work?

Cheers
Chris
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep 29 08:38:56 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:38:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS AND THE FOT
Message-ID: <8CE4CCC9EA2AAF4-E7C-4739@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>

CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS:

Gary Horstkorta provided a nice shot and report on the FOT at work while at
LAGUNA SECA.

KAS' new book, was nicely reviewed in the magazine as well.

There was mention of the FOT at the Mitty forthcoming in the spring, and that
Kas is the Grand Marshall of the event.

Always nice to be recognized for what we do.

Thanks CMS.


From jhd11 at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 29 09:07:57 2011
From: jhd11 at hotmail.com (Joe Henry)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:07:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] '12 Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <COL118-W24EBD8EE7830C1EEBA1631A9F60@phx.gbl>

FOT'ers,
     Who is the Chairman of the '12 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta and contact
information Please.  Thanks in advance.

Joe Downer
Charlotte, N.C.


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep 29 10:59:50 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:59:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] '12 Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W24EBD8EE7830C1EEBA1631A9F60@phx.gbl>
References: <COL118-W24EBD8EE7830C1EEBA1631A9F60@phx.gbl>
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 Joe Henry....you ask a very timely question

CHAIRMEN.......FOR PLANNING AND COMMUNICATION PURPOSES

HENRY FRYE:   FOR THE FOT

ANDY REID:  FOR CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS


Both Henry Frye and Andy Reid indicate that information is forthcoming,
shortly.

Joe Alexander








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To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 11:38 am
Subject: [Fot] '12 Kastner Cup


FOT'ers,
     Who is the Chairman of the '12 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta and contact
information Please.  Thanks in advance.

Joe Downer
Charlotte, N.C.
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep 29 11:58:45 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:58:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] [CWE] TR4 rear oil seal
In-Reply-To: <3C5498685AED0E49BC7904C3D3F21BAD029E091F2E@CP-EMBX01.pbsj.com>
References: <6D5D54F4-C240-45D0-AE37-163391C0D3ED@verizon.net><8CE4CD2FBB8BCB5-E7C-52A5@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
	<3C5498685AED0E49BC7904C3D3F21BAD029E091F2E@CP-EMBX01.pbsj.com>
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 the important thing is that crank retains the oem diameter at the scroll
area.

that is what the seal is sized to.

the scroll seal housing is modified from the oem parts to accept Chris' seal
design.

i am facilitating distribution in the US by providing the centering tool with
corrected dimensions and the modified scroll, which is done on an exchange
basis.

i am looking at producing the seal housing here in iowa because the exchange
program is cumbersome and inventory on those lag.





-----Original Message-----
From: Blake, Gregory S <greg.blake at atkinsglobal.com>
To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 12:19 pm
Subject: RE:  TR4 rear oil seal



Joe,

Remind me but does this new seal require that the scrolls remain?  I am having
a couple cranks made by Marine Crankshaft and want to use the latest on seal
technology.  I have not been too happy with the Moss kit in the past.

Thanks,

Greg


From: cwe-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:cwe-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Tr3a58 at verizon.net; cwe at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [CWE] TR4 rear oil seal



I have had no negative experiences or feedback, so far.

One guy had flywheel bolts too long and it tore the seal up and it was
replaced.

Jim Gray just ordered a replacement but he hasnt told me why he needs it.

As long as installation is as good as the OEM installation should be, the
superior VITON seal should be the final word in oil control, especially in a
newly built engine.

I have a couple kits on the shelf and hopefully 10 more seals coming from
CHRIS.

Demand is climbing as winter approaches.

Joe Alexander





-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Tetterton <Tr3a58 at verizon.net>
To: cwe <cwe at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 9:58 am
Subject: [CWE] TR4 rear oil seal

I was wondering if any in the group had experience with the new style rubber
oil
seal. I am
building a street motor and am thinking about trying it. Anyone put one in
that
has put any
major miles on it yet. If so how is it working and how many miles do you think
you have on it.

 I like the idea but am curious if it stays in place. I suppose it stays in as
well as any other
pressed in seal.

Dean


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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Sep 29 21:25:05 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:25:05 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Message-ID: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

mjb.


From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep 29 23:18:42 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:18:42 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Message-ID: <mailman.48.1638251573.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

Then there is the other side of the coin. That maybe your lead-footed experience as a race car driver is what got you airborne...and flying like an airplane.
 Glad your OK.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Sent: Sep 29, 2011 10:25 PM

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Sep 30 00:48:11 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:48:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
In-Reply-To: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
References: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <20110930064839.B4787187876@autox.team.net>

Dang!  Glad you're OK!

Tony

At 10:25 PM 9/29/2011, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123
>
>mjb.


From rjl6n at cstone.net  Fri Sep 30 05:20:23 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:20:23 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
In-Reply-To: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
References: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <82444d0f891d57d2b6e87ce3b06cfd70.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

	Wow, glad to hear that you made it through OK.


	 


	John


	 


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From jsclark at live.ca  Fri Sep 30 10:57:05 2011
From: jsclark at live.ca (Jeff Clark)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:57:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
In-Reply-To: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
References: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <BLU158-W469020107D3B132E1D1500AEF70@phx.gbl>

I strongly agree with the statement you make about experience behind the wheel
of a race car. I have had my licence for two years now and only have 5 races
to my credit and remember when I took my race school making a comment to my
instructor that everyone on the road should have this kind of training even if
they never get behind the wheel of a race car. I saw an episode of Top Gear
once that did a piece on new drivers in Switzerland( I think) It takes three
months to get a drivers licence after a training coarse including time spent
on a skid pad
Jeff Clark
'71 Triumph GT6


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From markvaden at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 11:54:34 2011
From: markvaden at gmail.com (Mark Vaden)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:54:34 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
Message-ID: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety issue
to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the
IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend new
axles as well?

Thank in advance,
Mark


From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Sep 30 12:59:46 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:59:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
Message-ID: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Sep 30 13:54:57 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:54:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
In-Reply-To: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F0346C7@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

I put these on my car and after making room for them in my trailing arms and
finding suitable hex drive cap screws for the axle mounting I've had many
years or trouble free racing.

http://www.cambridgemotorsport.com/TR6-TR56-Transmission

I think Richard Good sells something very similar now and they are more
affordable.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Vaden
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 12:55 PM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles

Hi All,

I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering about
axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety issue to have
the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the IRS cars,
is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend new axles as
well?

Thank in advance,
Mark
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Fri Sep 30 14:36:40 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:36:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
References: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16741771F6444D589F265D7E56253EBE@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi Gang, I've only been playing with Triumphs for 6 years or so, but I've 
read a lot and talked to a lot of folks during that time. Including reading 
Kas' books.
"In the day" by what I recall, Kas replaced the hubs every 2 or 3 races. I 
don't know how often the axles were replaced. Kas?
I know that the hubs are very suspect; they broke a lot. Not sure about the 
axles.
I went with Richard's hubs a while back. I still use stock axles, with the 
uprated U-joints, and have had no problems. And am making much more power 
now. Just make sure the splines are good and keep them greased.
New hubs are a must; how much cash you have to spend may influence the axle 
purchase!
Good luck,
Bill Tobin TR6 (knocked another 10 seconds off my lap times at the Glen 3 
weeks ago!)
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To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:54 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles


> Hi All,
>
> I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
> about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety 
> issue
> to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the
> IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend 
> new
> axles as well?
>
> Thank in advance,
> Mark
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Sep 30 15:05:59 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:05:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
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 Indeed, Glade is one of us...a real character.  I lost track of him.

Nice going Jason.....geterdun.





-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership


Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Fri Sep 30 15:09:00 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:09:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <001301cc7fb5$2ce07f20$86a17d60$@rogers.com>

I'll second that, welcome Glade

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: September 30, 2011 3:00 PM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s Production
class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4 decades. His
Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Fri Sep 30 15:12:58 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109301712300.14151@isis.mit.edu>

SECOND!!

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From vintage.racer at comcast.net  Fri Sep 30 15:17:18 2011
From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 21:17:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Seat Covers
Message-ID: <1025202927.29479.1317417438185.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

FOT: 

When I acquired my 1969 TR6 a few years ago the interior had been replaced including the seat covers. Very nice except, the seat covers are not perforated thereby not allowing air to circulate. As a result, my back can get sweaty on longer drivers. Has anyone found a good. ventilated seat cover (mesh, bamboo slats, etc) that lays on top of the seat? My seats have the attached head rests. Thanks. 

Gary 


From jerrybarr at charter.net  Fri Sep 30 15:29:10 2011
From: jerrybarr at charter.net (Jerry Barr)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:29:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79522538-21BA-4017-95A4-FE5648874E76@charter.net>

Glade Snodgrass!!?? Are you kidding me? You betcha, he will be a great
addition to our group. Second
On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> Greetings Friends,
> An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
> slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
> He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
> For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.
>
> I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
> exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
> of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
> He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
> time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.
>
> I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
> I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
> playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.
>
> So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
> He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
> Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
> decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
> A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced
many
> defeats in these cars.
> I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
> tight budget.
> In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
> Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
> He would be a good addition to our group.
>
> His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
> 4everglades at comcast.net
>
> Thank You,
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From Catpusher at aol.com  Fri Sep 30 15:42:16 2011
From: Catpusher at aol.com (Catpusher at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:42:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Subject:Re:  Close call!
Message-ID: <40652.622ea4e8.3bb791b8@aol.com>

Mark,
 
We are relieved that you had a safe landing; nasty just reading about  it.
I was always better at takeoffs than landings with "The Device".
 
TR Regards,
 
Hardy
 
 
In a message dated 9/30/2011 12:40:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
fot-request at autox.team.net writes:

From:  Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
To: FoT Triumph  <fot at autox.team.net>,  British Motor Club
<bmcu at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Message-ID:  <4E853691.9060207 at bradakis.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=ISO-8859-1;  format=flowed

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

mjb.


From riverside at southslope.net  Fri Sep 30 15:48:11 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:48:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31B7DEFA87DE41D7AE021CF8BDBE4264@rileyPC>

nomination seconded!

art de armond

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:59 PM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Sep 30 16:06:20 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:06:20 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4A IRS rear axles
Message-ID: <2EC94EED-A6D9-4B4A-9EAE-32FFAE1C59DF@aol.com>

Mark,

Not sure I know what you mean by "new hubs". The issue with the IRS  
hub is that the stub axle can't stand up to the stresses we put on  
them racing. When it fails, the wheel departs. Has happened to me and  
many others. A newly rebuilt TR hub doesn't solve the design problem.  
Several of us have adapted 240Z stub axles to the TR hub carrier.  
Richard Good sells a redesigned hub. The sliding axles aren't the  
weakest link, but Goodparts has an uprated axle design, too.

I wouldn't race (again) on the OEM hub. As others have said, it's not  
a matter of IF, just WHEN.

John Frymark


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Sep 30 16:09:22 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:09:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402684667@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Second!  I've been trying to get Glade to join the FOT for years.  I
wonder why he thought it was so mysterious??

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:00 PM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed"
group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long
process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a
long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny
because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in
4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced
many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on
a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the
excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Fri Sep 30 17:04:40 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:04:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
In-Reply-To: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1794830870.208885.1317423880791.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I don't think there is anything wrong with the stock axles. Some have said you
can get spline lock

but it's never happened to me. I kept them well greased. Maybe more of a
problem with the TR6.

The hubs for sure should be replaced.

It's a single point failure that could destroy the car. Ask Tony about
throwing a rear wheel at speed.

I was more worried about trapping one in the wheel well.B 

I went for the whole hub & CV conversion which is pure artwork and an easy
installation.



jim g





----- Original Message -----


From: "Mark Vaden" <markvaden at gmail.com>
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:54:34 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles

Hi All,

I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety issue
to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the
IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend new
axles as well?

Thank in advance,
Mark
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From kaskas at cox.net  Fri Sep 30 17:15:38 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:15:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
In-Reply-To: <16741771F6444D589F265D7E56253EBE@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>,
	<16741771F6444D589F265D7E56253EBE@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W40332C555F1D5A0BA65AC7DFF70@phx.gbl>

Interesting your comment about the replacment parts.  It was not hubs that I
replaced every 3 races, but the axles.  It was the axles that we broke. But
knowing what I know and most racers know NOW, replace both. Same with the
front hubs. I remember trying to get the SCCA to agree to allow the aluminum
hubs on the front , but they would not go for the "saftey" part of the
regulations. Just for once it was straight with no hidden agendas. Oh well.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net
> To: markvaden at gmail.com; fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:36:40 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
>
> Hi Gang, I've only been playing with Triumphs for 6 years or so, but I've
> read a lot and talked to a lot of folks during that time. Including reading
> Kas' books.
> "In the day" by what I recall, Kas replaced the hubs every 2 or 3 races. I
> don't know how often the axles were replaced. Kas?
> I know that the hubs are very suspect; they broke a lot. Not sure about the
> axles.
> I went with Richard's hubs a while back. I still use stock axles, with the
> uprated U-joints, and have had no problems. And am making much more power
> now. Just make sure the splines are good and keep them greased.
> New hubs are a must; how much cash you have to spend may influence the axle
> purchase!
> Good luck,
> Bill Tobin TR6 (knocked another 10 seconds off my lap times at the Glen 3
> weeks ago!)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Vaden" <markvaden at gmail.com>
> To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:54 PM
> Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
> > about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety
> > issue
> > to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On
the
> > IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend
> > new
> > axles as well?
> >
> > Thank in advance,
> > Mark
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> >
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep  1 05:17:13 2011
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 07:17:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dean Tetterton
Message-ID: <E132B6DD7C2C4D2F8CC8E70E195A522B@userb38463fba5>

I'd like to get in touch with Dean.

Dean I'd like to have your e-mail address so we can discuss your A/C set up in
your TR6. We talked about it at the TRF SP.

Thanks,
Jerry Van Vlack


From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  1 06:23:47 2011
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:23:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <8CE361CCB55A158-125C-24042@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Duck is at:
 
Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083
 
920-451-5000
 
I was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.
 
Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11, n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From: n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM


....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Thu Sep  1 06:27:07 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:27:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FOT
In-Reply-To: <4E5EEC14.5030700@gt-classics.com>
References: <00ae01cc673f$b452af20$1cf80d60$@com>
	<00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
	<4E5EEC14.5030700@gt-classics.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F011703@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

I'll second it. I should have nominated him a long time ago. He's been coming
to CVAR races and scratching his itch. He also is a part of the Sherlock
Homeboyz Lemon's TR6 effort and dose a real nice job driving.  He just needs a
race car to get started..

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of R. John Lye
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:21 PM
To: MORDY DUNST
Cc: Dustin Nicholson; FOT
Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT

I'll nominate Dustin for membership, although I haven't seen him for a few
years, he's a good one and will learn a lot from this bunch (some of which his
father would probably prefer that he not learn! :-) ).

John Lye

On 8/31/2011 12:01 AM, MORDY DUNST wrote:
> Dustin:
>
> I will post this on the FOT email site.  You may get a response from
> some local folks.
>
> good luck racing...
>
> Mordy
>
> M.N.Dunst
> Gasket Works USA, LLC
> www.Headgasket.com
> 626.358.1616 ph1
> 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
>
> Triple R Munitions, Inc.
> Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
> 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
> GMT-8 Pacific
>
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Dustin Nicholson
>    To: gasket.works at gte.net
>    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM
>    Subject: FOT
>
>
>    Hi, I'm a long time follower of FOT from the outside.  I've got
> several friends (mostly in Texas) that race Triumphs in CVAR and I'm
> looking to get into it myself.  For the last 15 years I have had stock
> spitfires and have autocrossed them at VTR conventions and I have done
> a 24 hours of LeMons in a TR6, but am now ready to get a real race
> car.  Can you help me find a beginner racing Triumph?  I'd really like to
become a  member of FOT, how do I do that?
> I understand y'all have an email group that I'd like to be a part of.
>
>
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Dustin Nicholson
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep  1 07:37:05 2011
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (jerryvv at roadrunner.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 9:37:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Dean Tetterton
Message-ID: <20110901133705.CZXRH.230658.root@hrndva-web12-z02>

Thanks to all, I've heard from Dean and yes he's been dealing with Hurricane issues.
JVV


From trdoctor at aol.com  Thu Sep  1 08:50:20 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:50:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT NOMINATION
In-Reply-To: <mailman.41026.1314880044.3301.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.41026.1314880044.3301.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <E97B03AD-8650-43EA-A730-C7EA25FAE15D@aol.com>

I will second the nomination.  I have known Dustin for a number of years and
he is a fine young man.  His mom, Louise, and step father, Don Carter are
fixtures in the Houston club and pretty hot shoes in their own right.

Sam Clark
Green Country Triumphs

On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:27 AM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> I'll nominate Dustin for membership, although I haven't seen him
> for a few years, he's a good one and will learn a lot from this
> bunch (some of which his father would probably prefer that he
> not learn! :-) ).
>
> John Lye


From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep  1 09:14:35 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 08:14:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1314890075.19057.YahooMailRC@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

anybody have a clue as to why?????  

why he is in the hospital that is ...
just to avoid some of the s.a.  comments 
that someone like me might make ...
 
Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white
spitfire




________________________________
From: Ernest Husmann
<ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net; n197tr4 at cs.com
Cc: Scott Barr
<sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, September 1, 2011 7:23:47 AM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....

Duck is at:

Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical
Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083

920-451-5000

I
was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so
I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.

Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11,
n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From: n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date:
Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM


....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.
Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well
as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the
North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure
as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at
ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that
it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard
about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at
VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep  1 09:24:31 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:24:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <1314890075.19057.YahooMailRC@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1314890075.19057.YahooMailRC@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CE36D2607F280D-2728-36EC1@webmail-m138.sysops.aol.com>

right now there is no big mystery....just privacy issues and pending results.

joe a.








-----Original Message-----
From: tom strange <tstrange at sbcglobal.net>
To: Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>; n197tr4
<n197tr4 at cs.com>
Cc: Scott Barr <sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 10:14 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....




anybody have a clue as to why?????

why he is in the hospital that is ... just to avoid some of the s.a.  comments
that someone like me might make ...

Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire





From: Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net; n197tr4 at cs.com
Cc: Scott Barr <sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, September 1, 2011 7:23:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....

Duck is at:

Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083

920-451-5000

I was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.

Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11, n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From: n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM


....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Thu Sep  1 09:32:51 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:32:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
Message-ID: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>

My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this before)


From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Sep  1 09:51:59 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 11:51:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D92ECCEB-6145-4CEA-BE0A-4F8D69CC6388@me.com>

Perhaps the pin holding the throw-out bearing fork to the cross-shaft is broken, loose or the hole in the shaft is egged out.  Unfortunately, this requires pulling the trans to find out.  These pins usually shear off when you try to unscrew them.  Ask me how I know . . . 

On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:

My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this before)
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Sep  1 09:56:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:56:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003501cc68bf$bce68d10$36b3a730$@com>

I suppose your pin at the cross shaft broke.
To relieve the ring from its load I added a steel pin through that shaft.
See the photo:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/B1ksv9fAbRKpgnZs3xDKkg?feat=directlink

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Henry Morrison
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. September 2011 17:33
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me

My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this
before)
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Thu Sep  1 11:39:41 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:39:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <09E5FDF6743E4CCC9E4E3DDF506F798C@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi list, I agree with Scott and Chris as to the taper pin holding the fork 
to the cross shaft being the culprit.
Another wear point is the pins that actually hold the T/O brg to the fork; 
they can wear flat and cause problems. A quick and effective fix is to grab 
the pins with Channel locks and turn them half way around (they are just 
pressed in) and you have a new pin surface. Or just buy new ones. PN 100164 
from TRF; $2.50 ea. NFI.
If the taper pin is broken off in the cross shaft it can be a PITA to get 
out. PN 158777 $12. Always good to reinforce the fork when you have it 
apart. (I know of one that is welded!) Chris' idea is very good.
The cross shaft bushings are also replacable.
Good luck.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:32 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me


> My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. 
> but
> most of the time not.
>
> Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.
>
> If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
> crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.
>
> Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.
>
> My desperate attempts to fix this include...................
>
> replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed 
> cylinder
> backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
> adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.
>
> The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the 
> pressure
> plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
> bearing was NOS.
>
> I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm 
> just
> not hard enough on the clutch.
>
> Thank you in advande for your insights..........
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this 
> before)
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Thu Sep  1 11:57:12 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:57:12 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <AB3005DF-DC3D-43EF-9536-DB0923004AF9@me.com>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>,
	<AB3005DF-DC3D-43EF-9536-DB0923004AF9@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W179A8BA95578D284ECCCB790190@phx.gbl>

Thank you for all the replies and suggestions.

Here's my run down,

The slave is installed with the bleed screw up.

I just rebuilt the engine and have checked for crankshaft float with a pry bar
and by stepping on the clutch running and not.

I replaced the pin on the throw out bearing pivot cross rod etc.

Haven't gone 400 miles since doing all this.

The concensus of the group and what I was fearing is, this Saturday morning
I'll get to take out the transmission and look at what's gong on in the guts
of the thing.............I'll report back on my measurements, calculations and
other findings as long as they make me look very intelligent.   Cheers Henry



From: sjanzen at me.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:24:18 -0400
To: dos_gusanos at msn.com


by the way, this is a tapered pin and tapered hole in the shaft, to add to the
complication of drilling out the old rusted piece.



On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:
My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally. but
most of the time not.

Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.

If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.

Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.

My desperate attempts to fix this include...................

replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed cylinder
backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.

The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the pressure
plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
bearing was NOS.

I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
not hard enough on the clutch.

Thank you in advande for your insights..........

Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this before)
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 12:52:12 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:52:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0F73CEE0-98DF-41E3-9E3A-C23FFA0803D6@gmail.com>

Henry,
I have a slave cylinder on a Morgan Plus 8 that's installed with the bleeder
nipple at a poor angle and I found that it worked best if I bled it first and
then mounted it.  Is that an option?

Also -- you mentioned that yours is a mix 'n match setup, so I wonder if you
simply don't have enough travel on the slave cylinder's pushrod.  You might
look into using a larger bore master cylinder so that you move more fluid per
inch of stroke.  Pedal effort will go up somewhat.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 red #6
On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:

> My TR6 Clutch won't work for,  well you know.     It works occasionally.
but
> most of the time not.
>
> Here are the symptoms..........won't go into first when stopped.
>
> If you start the car in first while holding the clutch the car will try to
> crawl slowly forward unless you hold the brakes.
>
> Every once in a while it works fine for a shift cycle.
>
> My desperate attempts to fix this include...................
>
> replacing pins on clutch master, installing pedal bushings, shimmed
cylinder
> backwards towards transmisson, rebuilt both cylinders, installed the
> adjustable rod and I've bled the thing multiple times.
>
> The clutch is a mix and match from the barn.  The car is a '69  the
pressure
> plate is from about a '72.  The disc from something else and the throwout
> bearing was NOS.
>
> I thought after a little disc wear this would all work but I guess I'm just
> not hard enough on the clutch.
>
> Thank you in advande for your insights..........
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison (never been puched around by a clutch like this
before)
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep  1 15:36:55 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:36:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
In-Reply-To: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1314879827.30401.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CE3706676378ED-156C-29CBD@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com>

Duck is feeling much better now.

Back to RA today or tomorrow.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>; n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Cc: Scott Barr <sbarr at mccarty-law.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 7:23 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....




Duck is at:

Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center
Second Floor
2926 N. 7th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53083

920-451-5000

I was unable to speak with Duck when I called but he is able to see visitors
so I hope to stop by this evening.  I did ask how long Duck might be in the
hospital and the nurse said at this time it is hard to say.  As normal the
nurse would not give out any medical information.

Ernie

--- On Wed, 8/31/11, n197tr4 at cs.com <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote:


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Thu Sep  1 19:09:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:09:29 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
Message-ID: <103C8F47-9CE1-4DBD-8BB7-0402BA570889@aol.com>

Amici
The flags have arrived!  Unfortunately I have not seen them only because I am
off galavanting with the wife doing the honeymoon thing. As soon as I get back
I will be shipping them out. That should be around September 12.

If you haven't ordered one yet I will have extras.

If you haven't ordered a grill badge, I have them also. $30 each, shipping
included.

Thanks


From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep  1 19:45:11 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 01:45:11 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
Message-ID: <mailman.39.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

Honeymoon??!!
Shouldn't you be doing more important things than emailing your buddys about these stupid flags? Get busy. Enjoy it while it lasts! CONGRADULATIONS!!!
------Original Message------
From: Christopher Bock
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: FoTTriumph
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
Sent: Sep 1, 2011 8:09 PM

Amici
The flags have arrived!  Unfortunately I have not seen them only because I am
off galavanting with the wife doing the honeymoon thing. As soon as I get back
I will be shipping them out. That should be around September 12.

If you haven't ordered one yet I will have extras.

If you haven't ordered a grill badge, I have them also. $30 each, shipping
included.

Thanks
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Thu Sep  1 22:45:04 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:45:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Flags!
In-Reply-To: <1766844121-1314927912-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-530974992-@b26.c3.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1766844121-1314927912-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-530974992-@b26.c3.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <50159694-570D-49E5-8720-DAC63EAB543D@aol.com>

Hey
I am getting busy.  I just needed a break.
Thanks I will enjoy it



On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:45 PM, jason at multivintage.com wrote:

> Honeymoon??!!
> Shouldn't you be doing more important things than emailing your buddys about
these stupid flags? Get busy. Enjoy it while it lasts! CONGRADULATIONS!!!
> ------Original Message------
> From: Christopher Bock
> Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: FoTTriumph
> Subject: [Fot] Flags!
> Sent: Sep 1, 2011 8:09 PM
>
> Amici
> The flags have arrived!  Unfortunately I have not seen them only because I
am
> off galavanting with the wife doing the honeymoon thing. As soon as I get
back
> I will be shipping them out. That should be around September 12.
>
> If you haven't ordered one yet I will have extras.
>
> If you haven't ordered a grill badge, I have them also. $30 each, shipping
> included.
>
> Thanks
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From gaf3 at charter.net  Fri Sep  2 12:13:03 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:13:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
Message-ID: <4E611CAF.7080902@charter.net>

Group
Does anyone out there have the proper dimension for valve installed 
height for a later model 1974 TR6 engine.
This is the dimension between the valve spring retainer and head.
I remember finding this for my Spit Race car engine but can't seem to 
locate it for the TR6.
I just finished up a 3 angle valve job on a customers car and I would 
like to assemble it with the proper shims but can't seem to locate the 
right dimension.
Currently the height after machining it is 1.250".
My machine shop can't find the dimension either.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Glenn Franco


From capecoventryracing at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 12:13:55 2011
From: capecoventryracing at gmail.com (John Nikas)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:13:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 9th Annual Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <CACWViu87cijxSEGhGFS5Z2i6hk83Py4vCSOsRHwUc-9z-ESeBw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all. I've posted pictures from the Kastner Cup on my Facebook page
including professional shots of the cars on the corkscrew. If you search
Cape Coventry on Facebook you should find them all.

-- 
Very truly yours,

John Nikas
Cape Coventry Racing
www.capecoventryracing.com
(949) 375-6306


From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 12:53:30 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is yours????
Message-ID: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>

I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
extension off my TR4....................

Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM


From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 14:37:15 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:37:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
 yours????
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>

Never mind, I figured out this extension is for my TR4................Cheers
Henry


> From: dos_gusanos at msn.com
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
> Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????
>
> I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
> extension off my TR4....................
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM
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From chasgee at aol.com  Fri Sep  2 16:30:20 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:30:20 -0700
Subject: [Fot]
 =?utf-8?q?My_TR3_fan_extension_is_4=2E7_inches_long_How_lon?=
 =?utf-8?b?ZyBpcyB5b3VycyA/Pz8/?=
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
	<SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0ab7d21d-5586-4311-b95a-c59c08dd213b@blur>

I knew you just wanted to brag...

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 21:03:18 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is  
yours????

Never mind, I figured out this extension is for my TR4................Cheers
Henry


> From: dos_gusanos at msn.com
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
> Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????
>
> I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
> extension off my TR4....................
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 16:38:36 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:38:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
 yours????
In-Reply-To: <0ab7d21d-5586-4311-b95a-c59c08dd213b@blur>
References: <SNT134-W3F3F1903BBA54053ED44290180@phx.gbl>
	<SNT134-W43BFCF48DA8E7EE18B184990180@phx.gbl>,
	<0ab7d21d-5586-4311-b95a-c59c08dd213b@blur>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W420CF9D4AE69A0663EBB5590180@phx.gbl>

Well OK, check out my webcam.................




From: chasgee at aol.com
To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:30:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????





I knew you just wanted to brag...

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----


From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 21:03:18 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????

Never mind, I figured out this extension is for my TR4................Cheers
Henry


> From: dos_gusanos at msn.com
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:53:30 -0600
> Subject: [Fot] My TR3 fan extension is 4.7 inches long How long is
yours????
>
> I'm not bragging, I just want to make sure I didn't sell some guy the
> extension off my TR4....................
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM
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From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Fri Sep  2 16:37:37 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob Davis)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:37:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction
In-Reply-To: <00be01cc6792$e290d350$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
References: <00be01cc6792$e290d350$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
Message-ID: <4E615AB1.9010100@cfl.rr.com>

Not far from me so I will be there to have a look and possibly bid if it 
is a decent one.

Bob

On 8/31/11 12:03 AM, MORDY DUNST wrote:
> I am forwarding this information the group.
>
> NFI...
>
> Mordy
>
> M.N.Dunst
> Gasket Works USA, LLC
> www.Headgasket.com
> 626.358.1616 ph1
> 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
>
> Triple R Munitions, Inc.
> Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
> 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
> GMT-8 Pacific
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shuler Auctions
> To: gasket.works at gte.net
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:16 PM
> Subject: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction
>
>
> We will be Auctioning a 1968 TR250 on Sept 18th at Public Auction in
> Titusville, Florida.  Do you have a place that we can post this info?
>
> Thank You,
> Debbie Shuler AU#3756
> Cliff Shuler Auctioneers&  Liquidators, Inc. AB#9/AU#14
> Shuler&  Shuler Real Estate Auctioneers, Inc.
> Secretary/Treasurer Florida Auctioneers Association
> 422 Julia St., Titusville, FL 32796
> www.soldfor.com
> 321-267-8563 office
> 321-383-3147 fax
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Sep  3 07:28:59 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:28:59 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
Message-ID: <001701cc6a3d$72330f80$56992e80$@com>

I've just heard that the professional racing driver Volker Strycek will enter
our race in a TR4:
http://en.wikipedia..../Volker_Strycek


That will make it difficult for me to be somewhere on front.

Cheers
Chris


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Sep  3 07:31:25 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:31:25 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain> 
Message-ID: <001801cc6a3d$c84bec70$58e3c550$@com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volker_Strycek


-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: MadMarx [mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. September 2011 15:29
An: 'fot at autox.team.net'
Betreff: AW: AW: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace

I've just heard that the professional racing driver Volker Strycek will enter
our race in a TR4:
http://en.wikipedia..../Volker_Strycek


That will make it difficult for me to be somewhere on front.

Cheers
Chris


From gaf3 at charter.net  Sat Sep  3 14:03:53 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:03:53 -0400
Subject: [Fot] [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
In-Reply-To: <COL123-DS49D2E18E6474717D763C8F41B0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL123-DS49D2E18E6474717D763C8F41B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E628829.9080809@charter.net>

Dick
I do all of my head work including refacing valves, seats and guides.
When you reface the valves and seats the valve sits slightly lower in 
the seat.
That allows the valve stem to protrude further out of the head. That 
lessens the valve spring tension.
These are washers that fit below the valve spring to regain correct 
spring height.
The manual gives spring free height which means almost nothing except if 
you should discard or not.
New or reusable springs have to be set to a certain height to regain 
proper tension.
So far I have received nothing but dead air on this.
I can't believe I'm the only one out there that does their own head work.
Thanks for your interest
Glenn
On 9/3/2011 2:58 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor wrote:
> Where would you place these shims? Under the rocker pedestals? Under the valve springs?
>
> Dick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Franco
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 1:34 PM
> To: Sally or Dick Taylor
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
>
> Dick - That's the first thing I referred to, the Kaz's booklets and then
> some TR6 Resto Guides. No one has that detail I guess.
>           Anyway I ordered some .060" VSI's .
> Thanks Glenn
>
> On 9/2/2011 3:07 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor wrote:
>> Glenn---My Bentley manual is not handy at this time, but I think the dimension you are looking for could be included in the valve pages in this book.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Glenn Franco
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 11:13 AM
>> To: Friends of triumph, 6pack at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
>>
>> Group
>> Does anyone out there have the proper dimension for valve installed
>> height for a later model 1974 TR6 engine.
>> This is the dimension between the valve spring retainer and head.
>> I remember finding this for my Spit Race car engine but can't seem to
>> locate it for the TR6.
>> I just finished up a 3 angle valve job on a customers car and I would
>> like to assemble it with the proper shims but can't seem to locate the
>> right dimension.
>> Currently the height after machining it is 1.250".
>> My machine shop can't find the dimension either.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> Glenn Franco
>>
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> 6pack at autox.team.net
>>
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>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6taylor at webtv.net


From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sat Sep  3 15:02:47 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:02:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] [6pack] Valve Spring Installed Height Dimension
In-Reply-To: <4E628829.9080809@charter.net>
References: <COL123-DS49D2E18E6474717D763C8F41B0@phx.gbl>
	<4E628829.9080809@charter.net>
Message-ID: <0a5b01cc6a7c$d5dad880$0301a8c0@randall>

> New or reusable springs have to be set to a certain height to regain 
> proper tension.

Actually, the proper procedure is to measure the installed tension and then
install shims as necessary.  The installed tension is given in the workshop
manual.

If you have ground the seats enough to cause spring tension problems, you're
also losing power from reduced breathing (the pocketing reduces effective
cam lift and timing).  The usual solution is either oversize valves, or new
seats.

-- Randall  


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Sep  4 03:12:59 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:12:59 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain> 
Message-ID: <000001cc6ae2$d9079e10$8b16da30$@com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volker_Strycek


-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: MadMarx [mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. September 2011 15:29
An: 'fot at autox.team.net'
Betreff: AW: AW: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace

I've just heard that the professional racing driver Volker Strycek will enter
our race in a TR4:
http://en.wikipedia..../Volker_Strycek


That will make it difficult for me to be somewhere on front.

Cheers
Chris


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Sep  4 09:57:43 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:57:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hastings and RMVR/HVR
Message-ID: <8CE393283C7262E-1F0C-422AF@Webmail-m118.sysops.aol.com>

Hasting's MPH track is absolutely brilliant for our purposes this weekend.

great facilities.
great weather
great people
affordable

three generations of Alexander's and add in cousins and their offspring.
everyone playing well with each other and car running great.

Jim Gray and Dan Forgey our FOT hosts along with a TR3 and a Spitfire.

Life is very good.

Wish everyone could go everywhere all of the time.....this one is a good one
for us.

Regards,

Joe A.


From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sun Sep  4 10:28:42 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:28:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] interesting comparison of speeds...
Message-ID: <001a01cc6b1f$b6143e80$223cbb80$@rogers.com>

Interesting comparison between GT racers and F1:

 

http://www.brainblog.to/item/2011/09/geschwindigkeitsvergleich-gt-vs-formel1


From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sun Sep  4 21:39:22 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 21:39:22 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>

Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..

http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>

Kevin, Colo.


From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Sep  4 22:07:40 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 21:07:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>

thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop area..the 
horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for me to find 
out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3 hours ago..they 
live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to go if 
evacuated.....
it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
Thanks
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com>
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires


> Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
>
> http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
> tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
>
> Kevin, Colo.
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sun Sep  4 23:12:35 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:12:35 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds15A15477D67AB7AF536465B71D0@phx.gbl>

I 'think' what's adding to the problem Bud is it's a Nat'l holiday, so the
news agencies our on a skeleton crew so  folks that r packed & ready but
aren't able to view/read the latest intel, are afraid to fall asleep.
Last but not least, the area affected is so big.  The larger of these burns is
currently 100 miles square.
And with N. winds at 15-20... it 'could' be the 'big one' they were afraid of
-  hope not.
Kev
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: RACER BUD<mailto:budscars at comcast.net>
  To: KEVIN LYNCH<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com> ; FOT<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


  thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop area..the
  horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for me to find
  out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3 hours ago..they
  live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to go if
  evacuated.....
  it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
  Thanks
  Racer Bud
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>>
  To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
  Subject: [Fot] TX. fires


  > Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
  >
  >
http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
<http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/%3
Cht>
  > tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
  >
  > Kevin, Colo.
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Mon Sep  5 07:04:36 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 07:04:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch problem Help me help me
In-Reply-To: <34032906-15DB-4B4F-89D2-8FAAF2E0DC2E@me.com>
References: <SNT134-W20CC5BB1B73835CBB3DA1490190@phx.gbl>,
	<AB3005DF-DC3D-43EF-9536-DB0923004AF9@me.com>,
	<SNT134-W179A8BA95578D284ECCCB790190@phx.gbl>,
	<34032906-15DB-4B4F-89D2-8FAAF2E0DC2E@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W12EDECD041EED4D90A4E28901D0@phx.gbl>

Thanks again to everyone who reply to my cry for help.  The brain storming
session really helped.  Here's how it all went down.  I took everything apart
and was concerned about the cltch fork so I cross drilled it for the hell of
it and turned the little pegs, and threw enough of it all back together for a
running test.  Those two things didn't do it.  So I tore it apart, spent an
hour rounding up six .075" thick washers and placed them between the pressure
plate and the flywheel.  Now the car feels like it has a crappy old clutch in
it again.  But will it all fly apart?  Should I have used the .055" thick
washers?

On a happy note I hooked up with two TR4 buddies working on clutches yesterday
and we all drove our cars and got a beer, grease and all.


Cheers,  Henry Morrison,

Cedar Crest, NM


From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 07:32:17 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:32:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  TX. fires
References: <C402D6E1-FF5A-4916-85DC-FEF4BA9AF86E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7DD6A03B-BB4B-4ECE-B67D-4D0B2E6E5113@gmail.com>

We're about five or six miles west of the one that started up in Bastrop
yesterday.  300 homes lost as of the evening news time and the fire was 16
miles long and six miles wide, but zero percent contained.  Winds did not drop
much last night and will be back up today to 20 mph, no doubt with gusts
around 30 or better (44 mph noted at the Austin airport yesterday and we saw
30 here at the house).  This is courtesy of what's left of tropical storm Lee
(we're unfortunately on the dry side).  Although the cold front that came
through last night should bring cooler temperatures (yesterday was the 80th
100+F day this year, setting a new record) the humidity is expected to drop a
lot, which is really bad news for the firefighters.  We're in the worst
drought year ever recorded here (not the longest drought by far but it is the
most acute) so standing trees are turning brown.  At least half of Bastrop
State Park (Lost Pines) is burned up.   Holiday weekend means lots of human
activity involving outdoor cooking and alcohol + high winds + high
temperatures + low humidity = huge chance of fires.  We heard that fires were
moving at 40 mph during the afternoon.  Firefighters had to concentrate on
evacuating, not putting out fires.  We had seen a thunderhead building to our
east so we looked at the radar and noted a very strange rain pattern, starting
from a pinpoint at the north end and spreading southward for many miles.  The
fire had already jumped the Colorado River by then.  Strange in that it looked
just like a smoke plume starting from a pinpoint source.  I didn't realize it
would show up on radar as a rain shower if severe enough.  The cumulus clouds
were being pushed up by the rapid heat production of the fire.  It's still
hard to get much information about what's going on.  We do know that highway
71 through Bastrop is still closed this morning but hopefully the other roads
towards Houston are open now.

The sad thing is that this is just one of many fires in the area (there's a
pretty big one not far from Lakeway). The fact that there's a holiday means
more human activity away from concentrated work places, and therefore more
chances of new fires today.  That and rubberneckers going into evacuated
areas.  It's going to be an interesting day.  We have all our hoses and
sprinklers set out and the spray tank is on the tractor to give us a little
edge if it comes here.  We're out in the open and the cows and horses have
eaten the grass down to nubs, so the main concern is the woods down by the
creek and the trees and bushes along the road, which are all turning brown.

Duncan
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red


From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  5 08:59:17 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 07:59:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  TX. fires
In-Reply-To: <7DD6A03B-BB4B-4ECE-B67D-4D0B2E6E5113@gmail.com>
References: <C402D6E1-FF5A-4916-85DC-FEF4BA9AF86E@gmail.com>
	<7DD6A03B-BB4B-4ECE-B67D-4D0B2E6E5113@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1315234757.18042.YahooMailRC@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I dont know what any of us at a distance could do to help, but our thoughts
are 
with all those in the area.  If there is something that the ones of us
far away 
could help with, dont forget to say so.
  That is what friends are
for....
 
Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4
white spitfire




________________________________
From: Duncan Charlton
<duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon,
September 5, 2011 8:32:17 AM
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TX. fires

We're about five
or six miles west of the one that started up in Bastrop
yesterday.  300 homes
lost as of the evening news time and the fire was 16
miles long and six miles
wide, but zero percent contained.  Winds did not drop
much last night and will
be back up today to 20 mph, no doubt with gusts
around 30 or better (44 mph
noted at the Austin airport yesterday and we saw
30 here at the house).  This
is courtesy of what's left of tropical storm Lee
(we're unfortunately on the
dry side).  Although the cold front that came
through last night should bring
cooler temperatures (yesterday was the 80th
100+F day this year, setting a new
record) the humidity is expected to drop a
lot, which is really bad news for
the firefighters.  We're in the worst
drought year ever recorded here (not the
longest drought by far but it is the
most acute) so standing trees are turning
brown.  At least half of Bastrop
State Park (Lost Pines) is burned up. 
Holiday weekend means lots of human
activity involving outdoor cooking and
alcohol + high winds + high
temperatures + low humidity = huge chance of
fires.  We heard that fires were
moving at 40 mph during the afternoon. 
Firefighters had to concentrate on
evacuating, not putting out fires.  We had
seen a thunderhead building to our
east so we looked at the radar and noted a
very strange rain pattern, starting
from a pinpoint at the north end and
spreading southward for many miles.  The
fire had already jumped the Colorado
River by then.  Strange in that it looked
just like a smoke plume starting
from a pinpoint source.  I didn't realize it
would show up on radar as a rain
shower if severe enough.  The cumulus clouds
were being pushed up by the rapid
heat production of the fire.  It's still
hard to get much information about
what's going on.  We do know that highway
71 through Bastrop is still closed
this morning but hopefully the other roads
towards Houston are open now.

The
sad thing is that this is just one of many fires in the area (there's a
pretty
big one not far from Lakeway). The fact that there's a holiday means
more
human activity away from concentrated work places, and therefore more
chances
of new fires today.  That and rubberneckers going into evacuated
areas.  It's
going to be an interesting day.  We have all our hoses and
sprinklers set out
and the spray tank is on the tractor to give us a little
edge if it comes
here.  We're out in the open and the cows and horses have
eaten the grass down
to nubs, so the main concern is the woods down by the
creek and the trees and
bushes along the road, which are all turning brown.

Duncan
1952 Morgan Plus 4
#6 red
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From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com  Mon Sep  5 10:31:46 2011
From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:31:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
Message-ID: <A015507B320545E68E8A189422CCB0D6@latitudefb1e41>

Lakway isn't far from the Steiner Ranch fire but I think the north wind will 
keep them out of the path. Volente is just a few miles north of the fire and 
Lakeway is to our west. We should be fine but if you want to keep up with 
the fires here's a couple of local news links:
http://www.kxan.com/
http://www.kvue.com/
http://austin.ynn.com/

If your folks need some help let us know.

Bob Kramer
Volente, TX

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch 
excellence.
Vince Lombardi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RACER BUD" <budscars at comcast.net>
To: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com>; "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


> thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop 
> area..the horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for 
> me to find out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3 
> hours ago..they live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to 
> go if evacuated.....
> it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
> Thanks
> Racer Bud
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com>
> To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
> Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
>
>
>> Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
>>
>> http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
>> tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
>>
>> Kevin, Colo.
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Mon Sep  5 11:57:08 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:57:08 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
	<A015507B320545E68E8A189422CCB0D6@latitudefb1e41>
References: <BLU151-ds2B874DC48A3B031A87706B71D0@phx.gbl>
	<1B81409254224A498F0CBF426DA0A93D@Bud>
	<A015507B320545E68E8A189422CCB0D6@latitudefb1e41>
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds17C4FAF8AE352A9C4D9BFEB71D0@phx.gbl>

Took me awhile, seems this site is used by all U.S. Incident Management Teams
& their command H.Q.'s .
I see it's based out of SLC, Utah.

http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/index.php<http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/ind
ex.php>

Kevin




----- Original Message -----
  From: Bob Kramer<mailto:rkramer3 at austin.rr.com>
  To: RACER BUD<mailto:budscars at comcast.net> ; KEVIN
LYNCH<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com> ; FOT<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


  Lakway isn't far from the Steiner Ranch fire but I think the north wind will
  keep them out of the path. Volente is just a few miles north of the fire and
  Lakeway is to our west. We should be fine but if you want to keep up with
  the fires here's a couple of local news links:
  http://www.kxan.com/<http://www.kxan.com/>
  http://www.kvue.com/<http://www.kvue.com/>
  http://austin.ynn.com/<http://austin.ynn.com/>

  If your folks need some help let us know.

  Bob Kramer
  Volente, TX

  Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch
  excellence.
  Vince Lombardi
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "RACER BUD" <budscars at comcast.net<mailto:budscars at comcast.net>>
  To: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>>; "FOT"
<fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TX. fires


  > thanks Kevin..my son Tom and his wife keep their horses in Bastrop
  > area..the horses were moved several hours ago, but now it's difficult for
  > me to find out where the fires are going?...I spoke to my son about 3
  > hours ago..they live in Lakeway...they have packed stuff, and are ready to
  > go if evacuated.....
  > it's difficult to get up to the hour news...I would appreciate any info.
  > Thanks
  > Racer Bud
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>>
  > To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:39 PM
  > Subject: [Fot] TX. fires
  >
  >
  >> Pls. keep a 'good thought' for those we know in the Austin area..
  >>
  >>
http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/<ht
<http://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/%3
Cht>
  >>
tp://www.texas-fire.com/2011/09/several-fires-burning-in-greater-austin/>
  >>
  >> Kevin, Colo.
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Sep  6 07:32:38 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:32:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
Message-ID: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>

http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
ctsheet.html 

.


From ac at camoletti.ch  Tue Sep  6 08:06:29 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:06:29 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>

Somebody asked the price?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de Paul MacDonald
Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33
@ : Fot
Objet : [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
ctsheet.html

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Sep  6 10:06:41 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:06:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
	<002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>

Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

Somebody asked the price?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
[Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Tue Sep  6 10:18:41 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:18:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
	<002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
	<000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <000701cc6cb0$a4a01420$ede03c60$@rogers.com>

Also, this is not the car which is owned by Bill Warner

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Paul MacDonald
Sent: September 6, 2011 12:07 PM
To: 'Alexandre Camoletti'; 'Fot'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale

Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.

Paul


From koblinger at verizon.net  Tue Sep  6 10:43:04 2011
From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:43:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
References: <001401cc6c99$72775100$5765f300$@rogers.com>
	<002801cc6c9e$2cbc43f0$8634cbd0$@camoletti.ch>
	<000001cc6cae$f7bba180$e732e480$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <4E664D98.3000304@verizon.net>

I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.

Cheers,
Kurt O.

On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>
> Somebody asked the price?
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>
> http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
> ctsheet.html
>
> .
>
> =======


From horizonracing at msn.com  Tue Sep  6 11:50:09 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony & Annie Garmey)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:50:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>

I,m not :)

Kurt Oblinger <koblinger at verizon.net> wrote:

>I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.
>
>Cheers,
>Kurt O.
>
>On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
>> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
>> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
>> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
>> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>
>> Somebody asked the price?
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
>> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
>> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>
>> http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
>> ctsheet.html
>>
>> .
>>
>> =======
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From kaskas at cox.net  Tue Sep  6 13:30:59 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:30:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W164AB2569171688AA59800DF1C0@phx.gbl>

Seeing car in it's present condition makes me think that 10 times that amount
would not be enough to bring it to its present state. Greart job Tony and
thanks to the Hart folks.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:50:09 -0700
> From: horizonracing at msn.com
> To: koblinger at verizon.net; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>
> I,m not :)
>
> Kurt Oblinger <koblinger at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kurt O.
> >
> >On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
> >> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
> >> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
> >> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
> >> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
> >>
> >> Somebody asked the price?
> >>
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De
la
> >> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot
Objet :
> >> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
> >>
> >>
http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
> >> ctsheet.html
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> =======
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 14:22:45 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:22:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
Message-ID: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>

Amici...

Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?  
Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.

Bill Dentinger


From billb at bnj.com  Tue Sep  6 15:01:40 2011
From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:01:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <76514339-99D8-49C0-914F-11CE81E17AF9@bnj.com>

UmmmQuaife..as in Dog Box.

On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:

> Amici...
>
> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Sep  6 15:17:59 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:17:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <76514339-99D8-49C0-914F-11CE81E17AF9@bnj.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
	<76514339-99D8-49C0-914F-11CE81E17AF9@bnj.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109061717290.17579@isis.mit.edu>

On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Bill Babcock wrote:

> UmmmQuaife..as in Dog Box.

LIKE!!

rml
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From garygret at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep  6 17:03:41 2011
From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:03:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1315350221.23030.YahooMailRC@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bill,
John Esposito at Quantum Mechanics www.quantumechanics.com/ had decent synchros 
made a few years back, ISTR from the original petroglyphs of the ancient 
scribes. I've had them for a couple (short) seasons with no crunching. When 
rotated by hand on the cones they had noticeably more friction at less 
engagement depth than the Moss, TRFs or VicBrits I bought for comparison at the 
time, which seemed to go all the way onto the taper without much grab.

He also has steel bushings to replace the fragile tophats.

Regards,
Gary Schneider




________________________________
From: "BillDentin at aol.com" <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, September 6, 2011 3:22:45 PM
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...

Amici...

Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?  
Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Tue Sep  6 17:16:48 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:16:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000301cc6ceb$0e46b110$2ad41330$@com>

Contact Steve Yott at Silver Lake Triumphs in Silver Lake, Wisconsin. His
e-mail address is tr4 at wi.rr.com.


Tim

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of BillDentin at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:23 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...

Amici...

Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?  
Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.

Bill Dentinger
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From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Tue Sep  6 19:14:26 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:14:26 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E66C572.4060604@blacksburg.net>

On 9/6/2011 4:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
> Amici...
>
> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>
>    
Bill, I bought a set from BFE a few years back, which have much more 
"grab" at less engagement than the usual culprits.  In fact, I had to 
lap them in slightly to make the gbx shift easier.  In short, spendy 
parts but well worth the $.

j

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go


From koblinger at verizon.net  Tue Sep  6 20:34:26 2011
From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:34:26 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP190A388A3D5EF03D8F05323B21C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E66D832.4050901@verizon.net>

Touche'

The TR250K has certainly found a good home. It's well cared for and 
exercised regularly for all of us to enjoy. But, hey! A guy can still dream!

Cheers,
Kurt O.

On 9/6/2011 10:50 AM, Tony & Annie Garmey wrote:
> I,m not :)
>
> Kurt Oblinger<koblinger at verizon.net>  wrote:
>
>> I still regret not buying the TR250K for $7500.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kurt O.
>>
>> On 9/6/2011 9:06 AM, Paul MacDonald wrote:
>>> Just got an answer...$275,000...I asked HER and she said NO.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
>>> Sent: September 6, 2011 10:06 AM
>>> To: 'Paul MacDonald'; 'Fot'
>>> Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>>
>>> Somebody asked the price?
>>>
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
>>> part de Paul MacDonald Envoyi : mardi 6 septembre 2011 15:33 @ : Fot Objet :
>>> [Fot] Group 44 TR8 for sale
>>>
>>> http://www.grandprixclassics.com/FactSheets/1979%20Triumph%20TR8%2079-289_fa
>>> ctsheet.html
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> =======


From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com  Tue Sep  6 20:41:07 2011
From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:41:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com> <4E66C572.4060604@blacksburg.net>
Message-ID: <37CAB7500DBF4D1AB3B20E4EF983CA05@latitudefb1e41>

I bought some from Cambridge or Racetoratons a few years ago. They were made 
in Germany and were high quality and high dollar.

Don't forget to look through your spares for good, used OEM ones. The 
grooves on the inside cone are as important as the teeth.I've been able to 
put together a couple of good sets and in use they have worked better than 
the new ones the big three sell.

Bob Kramer
Volente, TX

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch 
excellence.
Vince Lombardi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.C. Hassall" <jhassall at blacksburg.net>
To: <BillDentin at aol.com>
Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny synchros...


> On 9/6/2011 4:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>> Amici...
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
>> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>>
>>
> Bill, I bought a set from BFE a few years back, which have much more 
> "grab" at less engagement than the usual culprits.  In fact, I had to lap 
> them in slightly to make the gbx shift easier.  In short, spendy parts but 
> well worth the $.
>
> j
>
> -- 
> Jim Hassall
> Blacksburg VA
> '63 TR4 in autox preparation
> 99% finished, 90% to go
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Wed Sep  7 17:07:52 2011
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:07:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
In-Reply-To: <37CAB7500DBF4D1AB3B20E4EF983CA05@latitudefb1e41>
References: <8735.4eb2ff45.3b97db15@aol.com> <4E66C572.4060604@blacksburg.net>
	<37CAB7500DBF4D1AB3B20E4EF983CA05@latitudefb1e41>
Message-ID: <4E67F948.5050705@pobox.com>

Don't throw away good OEM synchros.  I have rebuilt several trannies for 
local club members (Green Country Triumphs).  Most guys want new 
synchros, so if their old ones were still good, guess where they ended 
up (this was my only payment)?  The worst I've seen are the ones from 
Vicky Brit, the others seem comparable. I have found NOS on ebay.  I 
have not tried UK sources, BFE or Quantum.

The "don't throw away" advice also applies to other parts, e.g. OEM 
valve lifters.  It seems that the older the car, the more iffy the 
replacement parts become.
Larry

On 9/6/2011 9:41 PM, Bob Kramer wrote:
> I bought some from Cambridge or Racetoratons a few years ago. They 
> were made in Germany and were high quality and high dollar.
>
> Don't forget to look through your spares for good, used OEM ones. The 
> grooves on the inside cone are as important as the teeth.I've been 
> able to put together a couple of good sets and in use they have worked 
> better than the new ones the big three sell.
>
> Bob Kramer
> Volente, TX
>
> Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch 
> excellence.
> Vince Lombardi
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.C. Hassall" 
> <jhassall at blacksburg.net>
> To: <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny synchros...
>
>
>> On 9/6/2011 4:22 PM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>>> Amici...
>>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a source for 'decent' synchros for the TR4 tranny?
>>> Accent on the 'decent'.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>> Bill, I bought a set from BFE a few years back, which have much more 
>> "grab" at less engagement than the usual culprits.  In fact, I had to 
>> lap them in slightly to make the gbx shift easier.  In short, spendy 
>> parts but well worth the $.
>>
>> j
>>
>> -- 
>> Jim Hassall
>> Blacksburg VA
>> '63 TR4 in autox preparation
>> 99% finished, 90% to go
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From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep  8 11:06:07 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:06:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Attention Midwest Triumph Racers!
Message-ID: <CALCydYoBk7kareiWxD3KGJ5X3XkqO4coOJOYrWsHNxJByDJk9w@mail.gmail.com>

Amici...
Greetings from Friendly Ghost Racing!

My Club is hosting a Midwestern Council event at Autobahn Country Club on
October 1-2, in Joliet IL. I am Chairperson for this event.
Saturday is a HSAX and Sunday is a Race.
Reasonable cost for racing or autosrossing at this somewhat exclusive and
beautiful facility. The racing is on the south track and is well suited for
any Triumph.
Anyone interested in Racing or Autocrossing, Email me and I will forward
entry information.
All Vintage and Club Racing sanctioning body members are welcome!
Vintage and Production classes for Racing.
Numerous High Speed Autocross Classes.

I will be awarding a special "Fastest Triumph Award" for any autocross or
racing entry.

Please consider attending this event.... My cooler is always full!

THANK YOU
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
FOT, MCSCC, NSSCC


From N197TR4 at cs.com  Fri Sep  9 08:10:41 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:10:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>

FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.

Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some very close and competitive racing among our 
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>


From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 14:17:15 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:17:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing National Chumpionship 25.5 hr. race report...
Message-ID: <1315599435.33627.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

We came, we raced...we did well...for a while.  This was the "National
Chumpionship" at Iowa Speedway, Newton IA.
 
Friday, Sept. 2 (practice):
Unfortunately, the initial trend (one of the first cars through the gate, one
of the first cars through tech, one of the first cars on the track for
testing) did not continue  

Spent most of the test time getting tire
pressures right and convincing me, who had never driven on an oval, that it
was ok to push through the turns. It was great seeing most teams for the first
time (and others again!) that we had seen on the forums and race reports but
not in person. Lacey2 seemed to settle in nicely, albeit rather slowly, to the
oval and our team coach managed to get my oval lap times down by 4 seconds by
the time we were done. The road course (the race alternated between the road
course and the oval with switchovers during caution periods...) was pretty
straightforward and fun...it was neat being able to outbrake anyone else on
the track!  Ate a nice team meal and got a little sleep.

Saturday, Sept. 3
(13 hours):

Rain! Rain is good! When you have an underpowered but
good-handling car, rain was a plus. We hadn't run in real rain yet (eat your
heart out Midwestern folks) as the Southeast ChumpCar races have been
surprisingly clear. We found that we could run with anyone on the road course
(getting passed on the oval turn and making it up in the infield) and had a
grand time battling with cars that ended up finishing much better than we did.
Ended up in 6th-10th (out of 47 cars) most of the time and were 7th at the end
of day 1. Surprised a LOT of people...running against BMW E30's, E36's,
Toyotas, Mazdas (Miata & RX7's), Hondas, etc...One of our drivers had a
terrific duel with a Toyota FX16 towards the end of the day that took out a
headlight (racing incident, no foul) but they both came in with big wide grins
on their faces.  Went over the car, fixed a few things, picked up another
battery at a 24 hour Walmart.  Got to sleep around 2:30 am.

Sunday, Sept 4
(12.5 hours):

All WAS well...until a half-shaft decided to break inside the
rear hub, RH side. One of the winning BMW E30 team members reported we hit an
altitude of over 4 feet as we careened off the track on top of some tire
barriers right after the hairpin. We needed to replace the wheel, drum,
brakes, backing plate, hub, halfshaft and trailing arm (ugh!). Iowa Speedway
tow truck was kind enough to hoist the TR6 into the garage and stayed until we
could get a jack stand under it! Kudos!!!! According to chumpstaff we got the
car back out in less than 40 minutes...haven't verified that through MyLaps
yet but I know it was quick. Had all the parts ready to go thanks to Jack
McGahey but that's still a lot of fasteners to get right. After that, things
continued to go downhill as we broke a third stock TR6 wheel (gonna buy some
real wheels before Sebring) and a wheel stud...and then the rack decided to
stop turning right. Unfortunately, we were on the road course at
 the time! After repairing all the above and replacing the rack, we were out
again, only to run out of fuel due to a miscalculation with 10 minutes to
go....at the other end of pit road from where we were pitted!

A Porsche
team was VERY kind to give us fuel, fire extinguisher, gloves, helmet to one
of our guys still in his suit so we could refuel at the other end of pit
road...nice example of the spirit of ChumpCar!!!!  We ended up 18th out of 47.
Had a great time, happy to meet folks, looking forward to 14 more hours at
Sebring on September 24th!    C'mon out and join us as we will continue to
wave the Triumph (and hopefully FOT if it gets here in time) flag at another
endurance race!
 
Pictures at http://riffrafracing.blogspot.com
 
Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader, RiffRAF Racing
'75 TR6 ChumpCar


From rjohns at woh.rr.com  Sat Sep 10 20:35:27 2011
From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:35:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Tranny synchos ( Bob Johns)
Message-ID: <0919F1323A90476D8F051AE29728FF9F@Bucktailus>

I read with interest the conversation about obtaining and / or salvaging
syncho rings.  Some of you know that I was at the Triumph Register
International gathering at Harrogate, England in July. There were several
vendors there selling TR parts. One in particular catch my attention.  He was
a older fellow that had worked for Standard in Coventry. His name is Dave
Gleed ( Coventry Classics).  He had a treasure throve of original parts.  Two
items in particular amazed me. There was a nice bunch of new syncro rings
laying there to be had. I picked up some and showed them to a friend and said:
How amazing, as I had seen the time I could have used some of them.
The other item of particular interest was original thermostats with the bypass
shut off sleeve. I know there has been conversation about obtaining them of
our FOT chat line.   In case someone wants to contact him, his mail address
is, as he has no web site or email:

Dave Gleed
Coventry Classics
16 Aldbury Rise
Allesley Park
Coventry CV5  9JP
Great Britain


From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 11 17:02:39 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:02:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)
Message-ID: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have an oil leak out of my Purolator oil pressur regulator.  The seal I
referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have any thoughts on
fixing this leak?
 
Mike Mehl #46 TR5


From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sun Sep 11 17:30:04 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:30:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)
In-Reply-To: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>

>  The seal I
> referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have 
> any thoughts on
> fixing this leak?

TRF shows P/N 500328 in stock.

-- Randall  


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Sep 12 11:50:57 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:50:57 +0200
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
Message-ID: <002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>

FOT

Kas and Peggy were here at the Ring and pleased the crowd with their
attendance.
He was very asked for autographs and telling stories, even a TV team did
interview him and the track speaker took him to the control tower to do some
comments about CanAm cars which were on the track at that very moment.

A number of his current book was sold out in about 3 hours, all signed.

I dared to take Peggy and Kas around the track with the race car.
I know I know....how could I do this to take these treasured people on the
track but the speed was medium fast as it was very wet.
Once the cars rear escaped when Peggy was onboard when we left Karussel but
it made a big smile on her face which I saw on her face at the center
mirror.

Kas comment about the track was short: AMAZING!

All people were amazed about his very interesting comments about car
technique.

He did also made the price giving.
BTW...the Kastner Cup was given to Mario Neumann who won the Triumph
Competition overall.
He had the best tactic....driving fast but not too fast while the others
were to inconsistent with their driving in a 3H race.

http://tr-register.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=982
http://youtu.be/PANRTnMoe5c


He'll fly back tomorrow and will speak up shortly I guess.


Cheers
Chris




-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:11
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.

Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some very close and competitive racing among our
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>
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From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 12 12:17:00 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
	<002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
Message-ID: <1315851420.13504.YahooMailRC@web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Chris,
  This sounds excellent.  Thank you to you and to all who hosted Kas &
Peg.  It 
sounds like they should have had a wonderful time.  and thats what
its all about 
....
 
Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire
________________________________
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, September 12, 2011 12:50:57 PM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Kas and Peggy were here
at the Ring and pleased the crowd with their
attendance.
He was very asked for
autographs and telling stories, even a TV team did
interview him and the track
speaker took him to the control tower to do some
comments about CanAm cars
which were on the track at that very moment.

A number of his current book was
sold out in about 3 hours, all signed.

I dared to take Peggy and Kas around
the track with the race car.
I know I know....how could I do this to take
these treasured people on the
track but the speed was medium fast as it was
very wet.
Once the cars rear escaped when Peggy was onboard when we left
Karussel but
it made a big smile on her face which I saw on her face at the
center
mirror.

Kas comment about the track was short: AMAZING!

All people
were amazed about his very interesting comments about car
technique.

He did
also made the price giving.
BTW...the Kastner Cup was given to Mario Neumann
who won the Triumph
Competition overall.
He had the best tactic....driving
fast but not too fast while the others
were to inconsistent with their driving
in a 3H race.

http://tr-register.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=982
http://youtu.be/PANRTnMoe5c


He'll fly back tomorrow and will speak up
shortly I guess.


Cheers
Chris




-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von:
fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von
N197TR4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:11
An:
fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.
Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive
reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some
very close and competitive racing among our
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are
getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>
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From tr4.tony at virgin.net  Tue Sep 13 13:30:54 2011
From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (Tony Sheach)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:30:54 +0100
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com>
	<002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
Message-ID: <004701cc724b$a7877d90$f69678b0$@virgin.net>

Great people out there in Germany .... really, very special bunch.

I just got home and parked 3VC in the garage after a rapid dash back from
Germany, through Belgium and northern France. What a weekend ! even managed
to find all the speed traps on the E40 and stay out of their way all the way
home.

And a very special thanks to Chris for all the hard work he put into making
this happen in Europe. No one else could have done this and it was a
pleasure to have his company and that of Kas and Peggy all weekend. Lots and
lots of laughs. Im sure the other guys from the UK will say the same but ill
leave that to them - and a big hurrah for Keith & Josh Files and Steve Hall
who took home a pot with their triple driven TR6.

Im still remembering the drive of my life, over a big fat Gin; first time in
round the Nordschliefe in my existence, in the pouring rain, sideways
mainly, with a rally car on 60 spoke wires and road tyres ...... now ill be
telling that story for a long time.

All the best, let us know when the Eagles land back in California.

Regards Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: 12 September 2011 18:51
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Kas and Peggy were here at the Ring and pleased the crowd with their
attendance.
He was very asked for autographs and telling stories, even a TV team did
interview him and the track speaker took him to the control tower to do some
comments about CanAm cars which were on the track at that very moment.

A number of his current book was sold out in about 3 hours, all signed.

I dared to take Peggy and Kas around the track with the race car.
I know I know....how could I do this to take these treasured people on the
track but the speed was medium fast as it was very wet.
Once the cars rear escaped when Peggy was onboard when we left Karussel but
it made a big smile on her face which I saw on her face at the center
mirror.

Kas comment about the track was short: AMAZING!

All people were amazed about his very interesting comments about car
technique.

He did also made the price giving.
BTW...the Kastner Cup was given to Mario Neumann who won the Triumph
Competition overall.
He had the best tactic....driving fast but not too fast while the others
were to inconsistent with their driving in a 3H race.

http://tr-register.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=982
http://youtu.be/PANRTnMoe5c


He'll fly back tomorrow and will speak up shortly I guess.


Cheers
Chris




-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:11
An: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

FOT

Reports that Kas and Peg landed in Frankfurt are not greatly exaggerated.

Hired car and welcoming committee on hand to greet.....

Expect comprehensive reports from the European Kastner Cup, shortly.

There is going to be some very close and competitive racing among our
offshore Triumph FOT.

We are getting very GLOBAL

Joe A</HTML>
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Mon Sep 12 19:20:45 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:20:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Flags
Message-ID: <70A29850-8432-4687-BD94-470597003593@aol.com>

Amici,
I just got back home and looked at the flags.   The design is BIGGER than I
exected!
I am starting to pack these suckers up and label them.

Thanks for everything

Christopher Bock
www.SeaCubeCo.com
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(609) 319-4322


From trmarty at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 13 10:47:43 2011
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:47:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fire Suppression System
Message-ID: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>

Question for the experts out there.  As I am freshening up the spitfire I had
to pull out the fire bottle.  It is a halon bottle.  It has a few years on it
but shows fully charged.  Do these things need serviced or recertified after X
amount of years?  Or if fully charge they last indefinitely?

Thanks,

Marty


From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 13 11:37:14 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:37:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow
Message-ID: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>

Here is some in car footage from Sat, 9/10, Buttonwillow CA
outside temp 100
Camera: Contour GPS  (with duct tape over the mic hole)

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28970762

~Steve


From andre at gt6.ca  Tue Sep 13 12:57:28 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:57:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow
In-Reply-To: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
References: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CADr8x9Y2scySEjKg_4FCR-ku+wYeM5Dm-oAm5dZ98kXbFJx_GA@mail.gmail.com>

No kidding you guys got friendly at the start.

I've had a few of those my past race weekend.

1 with a very $$$ Lotus who missed a gear. We all skattered to avoid him...
Turn 4 into 5 at Mosport... Kinda exciting (Not really)

Nice track btw.

A.



On 13 September 2011 13:37, Steven Belfer <colordog.1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Here is some in car footage from Sat, 9/10, Buttonwillow CA
> outside temp 100
> Camera: Contour GPS  (with duct tape over the mic hole)
>
> http://vimeo.com/28971387
>
> http://vimeo.com/28971387
>
> http://vimeo.com/28970762
>
> ~Steve
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From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Sep 13 13:01:09 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:01:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow
In-Reply-To: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
References: <8CEDBB68-61AD-43FA-82ED-55D4A017294C@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E489A7359D9A4BA582CF932F22C59444@Vista>

Adrian Newey would be horrified that you have the kill switch pointed
against air flow!  :)

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Steven Belfer
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:37 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net Triumph
Subject: [Fot] In car video from last weekend at Buttonwillow

Here is some in car footage from Sat, 9/10, Buttonwillow CA
outside temp 100
Camera: Contour GPS  (with duct tape over the mic hole)

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28971387

http://vimeo.com/28970762

~Steve
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 13 13:15:46 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:15:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fire Suppression System
In-Reply-To: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CALCydYrfznMzF9XuGwjUr1naD_JkoScvV9aiQtxzTG47EnoQJg@mail.gmail.com>

Most likely it is still o.k. but to be sure, you can't go by the gauge. It
is my understanding that since it is a liquid (which is released as a gas)
it's content is measured by weight. I took mine to Pegasus last year and
they weighed it and checked the spec weight of the bottle. It is the weight
of the liquid that is important. Mine was probably older than yours and
checked out fine. Halon keeps working a lot longer than newer type systems
(FE-36 and AFFF) but is higher in toxicity and hard to clean up. It cannot
be refilled like the newer systems. So if it is not the proper weight, you
have to replace the whole bottle. In which case it would probably be best to
change to a AFFF or FE-36 bottle that fits your old set-up. Maybe If you
contact PegasusAuto Racing Supplies (they are an authorized fire system
center), they would give you the total weight that your bottle AND liquid
should be. Then you could weigh it yourself.

Not an expert but did do some research on this last year.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Question for the experts out there.  As I am freshening up the spitfire I
> had
> to pull out the fire bottle.  It is a halon bottle.  It has a few years on
> it
> but shows fully charged.  Do these things need serviced or recertified
> after X
> amount of years?  Or if fully charge they last indefinitely?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marty
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Sep 13 22:44:10 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:44:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR-7 on Craigslist
Message-ID: <20110914044431.32B8B18764F@autox.team.net>

http://quadcities.craigslist.org/cto/2586425928.html
1979 TR-7, original owner, $4900
NFI

Tony Drews


From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 14 07:12:45 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:12:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] I know some of you have used 280ZX wheels...
Message-ID: <1316005965.53183.YahooMailNeo@web114705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

What did you use for lug nuts?
 
Thanks!


From sgroh1 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 14 08:33:30 2011
From: sgroh1 at comcast.net (Steven Groh)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:33:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Message-ID: <393729552.2582465.1316010810620.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed83.prod>

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- Steven

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From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 08:52:07 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:52:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire workshop manual
Message-ID: <d4b3.462b6879.3ba21997@aol.com>

I have an extra Haynes manual for Spits 1962-1978. If anyone NEEDS one and  
doesn't have one, you can have this one FREE if you pay the  postage...rick


From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 10:16:18 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:16:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] (no subject)
Message-ID: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>



From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 12:22:01 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:22:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Don Marshall
Message-ID: <26f4f.e0ec28b.3ba24ac5@aol.com>

Don Marshall, pls get back to me off line if you still want the manual, or  
it will go to the second responder....thanks, rick


From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Wed Sep 14 15:30:34 2011
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:30:34 +0100
Subject: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup
References: <3edb8.319f371c.3b9b7861@cs.com><002501cc7174$975496b0$c5fdc410$@com>
	<004701cc724b$a7877d90$f69678b0$@virgin.net> 
Message-ID: <6F20BCC938E5468C801FF703049F383C@homekeith>

What more is there to say, we arrived back yesterday evening with the
broadest grins you could imagine. This was a magnificent event and I take my
hat off to Chris for pulling this all together; a great job Chris.

Kas and Peg amaze me, a 26 hour trip from the US and yet they looked as
fresh as anything and were involved in everything from the word go; you guys
are real heroes to us.

Josh, Steve and me had a great time in the car, the car ran brilliantly
throughout other than a slight lack of brakes after 2 hours and we came home
with a pot and stories to tell.

We will be back again I am sure.

Thanks again to Chris and the German TR group for making us all so welcome
and making it a memorable event.

Keith. 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Sheach
Sent: 13 September 2011 20:31
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] The Eagle Has Landed-European Kastner Cup

Great people out there in Germany .... really, very special bunch.

I just got home and parked 3VC in the garage after a rapid dash back from
Germany, through Belgium and northern France. What a weekend ! even managed
to find all the speed traps on the E40 and stay out of their way all the way
home.

And a very special thanks to Chris for all the hard work he put into making
this happen in Europe. No one else could have done this and it was a
pleasure to have his company and that of Kas and Peggy all weekend. Lots and
lots of laughs. Im sure the other guys from the UK will say the same but ill
leave that to them - and a big hurrah for Keith & Josh Files and Steve Hall
who took home a pot with their triple driven TR6.

Im still remembering the drive of my life, over a big fat Gin; first time in
round the Nordschliefe in my existence, in the pouring rain, sideways
mainly, with a rally car on 60 spoke wires and road tyres ...... now ill be
telling that story for a long time.

All the best, let us know when the Eagles land back in California.

Regards Tony


From rjohns at woh.rr.com  Wed Sep 14 15:58:18 2011
From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:58:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Fot Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12
Message-ID: <C5E8B0942959449DBE8C5B8DFD4622B9@Bucktailus>

Did you not get this previously?  I got an error message, So maybe you did 
not. I hope you get it now.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Johns" <rjohns at woh.rr.com>
To: "FOT team" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:08 PM
Subject: Fw: Fot Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12


> FOT team
> Just got this note and great photo of Kas and Peg, along with my very good
> friend, David Somerville, relaxing at the Ring.  Note that Kas can relax 
> and
> not even have a stop watch in his hand, or even in sight.
> David is an interesting fellow.  Has a TR2, a TR4 with Webers, a very 
> quick TR8,  and a Porsche  Carrera 4S.  I rode extensively in the TR8 and 
> the Porsche on that trip to
> Harrogate, TR international.
> Bob Johns
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Somerville" <trguru at btinternet.com>
> To: "Robert Johns" <rjohns at woh.rr.com>
> Cc: "Jeff Kelley" <jeffreykelley at charter.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Fot Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12
>
>
>> Bob   ,
>>
>>
>> just    back  from  a  tour  round  the  Eifel  mountains    .
>>
>> Met   this  American   couple  on  their  vacation   ,    weather    in
>> Germany    not  as   good   as  when  you   came  over to  England   . 
>> A
>> bit  wet   ,  no  correction  very  wet   .   But   they  both  enjoyed
>> themselves    ,   both  having  a drive   round  the  Nordschliefe   with
>> a
>> crazy  German  driver  in  the   wet   .
>>
>>
>>
>> all the  best  David

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC_kas-0663.JPG]


From billdentin at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 18:23:15 2011
From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:23:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Message-ID: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Sep 14 20:57:53 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:57:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE416A6586F560-12F8-4792C@webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com>

We plan to make an Alexander Family Weekend of it. I might even bring the
Ambro.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: billdentin <billdentin at aol.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 9:38 pm
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...


Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________
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From malaboge at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 22:49:38 2011
From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:49:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] "Foreign" Car Parts...
Message-ID: <8CE417A024072C8-8F4-2E1FA@webmail-d014.sysops.aol.com>

Yeah I know this is a bit off topic, but here I go anyway...

I need the rear wheel hub oil slinger that bolts to the backside of the rear
wheel hub flange...and the four Phillips head screws that hold it on, from
either a Datsun 510 or 240Z...at least its gonna go on a British car...

Anybody got one kickin around? I somehow got a set of rear axles with one
missing.  I'm not sure but I think the 260/280 units may be bigger (I know the
actual shafts are...ask me how I know).

Unscrupulous modifiers r us...
Nick in Nor Cal


From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Sep 14 23:48:06 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:48:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110915054826.20107187654@autox.team.net>

If the weather is forecast to be acceptable, I'll be there, and will 
be glad to pitch in.  I can even pick up the blue cheese.

Tony Drews

At 07:23 PM 9/14/2011, billdentin at aol.com wrote:
>Amici...
>
>My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
>of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
>I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
>But before I do, I thought I would double check.
>
>Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
>Scott?, Dennis?
>Tony?  Jason?  Any one?
>
>Bill Dentinger
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Sep 14 23:51:26 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:51:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Message-ID: <mailman.40.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

Bill, I'm sorry but if you miss this event, we are going to have to revoke your FOT membership.
I will be racing there for sure. And honestly, you can count on me for any help you may need. I'm the master of staying up all night fixing and preping these cars. I'll even have my girls wash and wax your car to a choice FGR shine before every session. Wine and cheese, done, equipment Check, fine. Spares package, no problem... Actually, bring your own spares; my stuff is just about used up. No worries, make it happen! This event needs your charm and good humor. Besides, if you don't make it who are all those beautiful women going to root for and shower with Champagne? 
I have all the tools and all the beer to overcome a weekend of racing at Blackhawk Farms. Register now!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
------Original Message------
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Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Sent: Sep 14, 2011 7:23 PM

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 15 02:11:43 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:11:43 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>

The first part is entertaining:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo

Cheers
Chris


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu Sep 15 04:00:22 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:00:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C74026844F8@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I plan to be there.  You need someone to take the garage next to you?

Scott

----- Original Message -----
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To: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed Sep 14 19:23:15 2011
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
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From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 15 06:21:30 2011
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <8CE4154CB67061E-2778-4233D@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1316089290.99338.YahooMailClassic@web125702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Bill:
 
If you need anything let me know.
 
Ernie

--- On Wed, 9/14/11, billdentin at aol.com <billdentin at aol.com> wrote:


From: billdentin at aol.com <billdentin at aol.com>
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 7:23 PM


Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?, Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
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From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 15 07:43:43 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:43:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
In-Reply-To: <20110915072006.A4073187930@autox.team.net>
References: <20110915072006.A4073187930@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1316094223.60066.YahooMailRC@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

SECOND!!!!
 
Tom

http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4
white spitfire




________________________________
From:
"jason at multivintage.com" <jason at multivintage.com>
To: billdentin at aol.com;
fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011
12:51:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...

Bill,
I'm sorry but if you miss this event, we are going to have to revoke your 
FOT
membership.
I will be racing there for sure. And honestly, you can count on me
for any help 
you may need. I'm the master of staying up all night fixing and
preping these 
cars. I'll even have my girls wash and wax your car to a choice
FGR shine before 
every session. Wine and cheese, done, equipment Check, fine.
Spares package, no 
problem... Actually, bring your own spares; my stuff is
just about used up. No 
worries, make it happen! This event needs your charm
and good humor. Besides, if 
you don't make it who are all those beautiful
women going to root for and shower 
with Champagne? 

I have all the tools and
all the beer to overcome a weekend of racing at 
Blackhawk Farms. Register
now!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
------Original Message------
From:
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Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] That LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms...
Sent: Sep 14, 2011 7:23
PM

Amici...

My racing partner, Bob Wismer, will be traveling with his family
the week end
of THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms, and as such, he is
unable to attend.
I am so dependend on him, and insecure, that I am inclined
to cancel as well.
But before I do, I thought I would double check.

Who plans
to run THAT LOOOONG RACE at Blackhawk Farms late next month?  Joe?
Scott?,
Dennis?
Tony?  Jason?  Any one?

Bill Dentinger
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Thu Sep 15 11:18:13 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:18:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] OK Then...
Message-ID: <14f34.3739d683.3ba38d55@aol.com>

Amici...

OK then!  The Beady Eye VINTAGE TRIUMPH Racing Team (in all its Glory, 
albeit lite) will enter THAT LOOOONG RACE event at Blackhawk Farms Raceway on 
October 29th and 30th, 2011.

Bill (Damdinger)


From atr6racer at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 15 15:19:13 2011
From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:19:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 Race car
Message-ID: <SNT136-W15BBF5AFF95BFB3B850FEDF9070@phx.gbl>

I am looking for a Vintage TR6 race car for a friend to purchase. Would like a
complete car, but will look at roller's also. I'm in Ohio. Please contact me
at:

Sam Halkias
atr6racer at hotmail.com
614-582-0232

Thanks,

Sam


From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 15 18:22:51 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:22:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
Message-ID: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today!  They are GORGEOUS,
Chris!!!!!

We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled track
:-)

Thanks, Chris!!!!!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader
RiffRAF Racing
'75 TR6
"Lacey2"


From igofaster at att.net  Thu Sep 15 18:48:44 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>
Message-ID: <1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

damn.. I just thought I was a race car driver...  dude....  200kph? what is that 
120mph? shit...  I just hope to hit 100 mph at a second or two...   THIS is real 
driving. Not a memorized set of turns that most of us know... I commend you ! 
YOU are a driver. It's not about the memory of preset turns we all know, it's 
this skill, balls, bravery (wait , does that go together?) and ability with you 
and your machine that blows me away with this video. I think the word 'road 
racing' is tossed around very generically now as far as I know. THIS was a 
road... heck I haven't even finished watching the first lap and I'm blown away. 
What is the course, 50k ? 


coolest in car video I've ever seen...   MadMax fan club.........    Bobby 
Whitehead


________________________________
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 3:11:43 AM
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74

The first part is entertaining:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo

Cheers
Chris
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Sep 15 21:14:15 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:14:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <990098195.697556.1316142855932.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Chris is indeed a great driver and I love the adjusting of the mirror around 200kph, like no prob dudes. 



Thanks for sharing the vid Chris, the tracks in Europe are spectacular. 


Dave H. 
SC,Ca. 


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 06:53:39 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:53:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316132571.33655.YahooMailNeo@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B636D760-5C88-4F04-8676-EE5B2DBE845A@aol.com>

Your flags were the first to be sent. The rest went out yesterday and the non
US flags are going today.

I am glad you like them.

Chris

On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today!  They are GORGEOUS,
> Chris!!!!!
>
> We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
> think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled
track
> :-)
>
> Thanks, Chris!!!!!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF Racing
> '75 TR6
> "Lacey2"
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Sep 16 07:02:07 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:02:07 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109160829190.27391@isis.mit.edu>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109160829190.27391@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <000001cc7470$e060a110$a121e330$@com>

Thank you all for the compliments of my ride.

As it would be very boring to show a 3H in total I'm working on a short
version in which ALL overtaking is covered....

Maybe finished this weekend.

Cheers
Chris


From kaskas at cox.net  Fri Sep 16 07:54:18 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:54:18 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>,
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>,
	<1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W27540465FE7B4C5BF57594DF060@phx.gbl>

Glad to see the opinion of my friend Cristian Marx.  I was up in the woods by
the track taking split times.  In a 8 second section only two cars were in the
5 second range, a fellow in a Porsche 935 and Chris Marx in his TR-4.  Take
that for pretty tough driver.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:44 -0700
> From: igofaster at att.net
> To: tr4racing at googlemail.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> damn.. I just thought I was a race car driver...  dude....  200kph? what is
that
> 120mph? shit...  I just hope to hit 100 mph at a second or two...   THIS is
real
> driving. Not a memorized set of turns that most of us know... I commend you
!
> YOU are a driver. It's not about the memory of preset turns we all know,
it's
> this skill, balls, bravery (wait , does that go together?) and ability with
you
> and your machine that blows me away with this video. I think the word 'road
> racing' is tossed around very generically now as far as I know. THIS was a
> road... heck I haven't even finished watching the first lap and I'm blown
away.
> What is the course, 50k ?
>
>
> coolest in car video I've ever seen...   MadMax fan club.........    Bobby
> Whitehead
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 3:11:43 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> The first part is entertaining:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Sep 16 08:04:11 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:04:11 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <SNT120-W27540465FE7B4C5BF57594DF060@phx.gbl>
References: <da83.35319f65.3ba22d52@aol.com>,
	<000701cc737f$1cb33850$5619a8f0$@com>,
	<1316134124.31807.YahooMailRC@web180810.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT120-W27540465FE7B4C5BF57594DF060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000701cc7479$847a1580$8d6e4080$@com>

Hmm.It is not very special.

If you get into the flow then it is more like your square dance.you
announce where to go with a little song and rhythm.

Sing: corner left, the rear goes wide, turn the wheel and all be right

Something like that J



Cheers

Chris





Von: hotmail_b17abf0a244adefd at live.com
[mailto:hotmail_b17abf0a244adefd at live.com] Im Auftrag von Kas Kastner
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. September 2011 15:54
An: igofaster at att.net; MadMarx
Cc: fot
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74



Glad to see the opinion of my friend Cristian Marx.  I was up in the woods
by the track taking split times.  In a 8 second section only two cars were
in the 5 second range, a fellow in a Porsche 935 and Chris Marx in his TR-4.
Take that for pretty tough driver.

Never be beaten by equipment


> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:44 -0700
> From: igofaster at att.net
> To: tr4racing at googlemail.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> damn.. I just thought I was a race car driver... dude.... 200kph? what is
that
> 120mph? shit... I just hope to hit 100 mph at a second or two... THIS is
real
> driving. Not a memorized set of turns that most of us know... I commend
you !
> YOU are a driver. It's not about the memory of preset turns we all know,
it's
> this skill, balls, bravery (wait , does that go together?) and ability
with you
> and your machine that blows me away with this video. I think the word
'road
> racing' is tossed around very generically now as far as I know. THIS was a

> road... heck I haven't even finished watching the first lap and I'm blown
away.
> What is the course, 50k ?
>
>
> coolest in car video I've ever seen... MadMax fan club......... Bobby
> Whitehead
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 3:11:43 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
>
> The first part is entertaining:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Sep 16 08:56:49 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:56:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
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THANKS!   ONCE AGAIN.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] WOW!!! Flags are COOL!!!!!


Your flags were the first to be sent. The rest went out yesterday and the non
S flags are going today.
I am glad you like them.
Chris
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today!  They are GORGEOUS,
 Chris!!!!!

 We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
 think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled
rack
 :-)

 Thanks, Chris!!!!!

 Jamie Palmer
 Squadron Leader
 RiffRAF Racing
 '75 TR6
 "Lacey2"
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Fri Sep 16 09:45:27 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:45:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source
Message-ID: <788293966.574247.1316187927218.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

FoT,
This outfit is offering billet TR4 cranks for $ 1,400.00 with an order of 10.
I can't consider it in the short term
but I would consider it after the 1st of the year.


jim g

http://www.maxspeedingrods.com/


B 
Yes, weB doB 4340 billet steel crank according to your sample. Our minimum
order is 10 units with each strokes at a time. We will make theB formal
blueprint for you to confirmB after receipt of 30% deposit. The cranks will
beB made in about 4-6 months after confirmed the blueprint. (normal in about
90 days, but now many orders on the schedule.) After we finished the whole
work and prepare shipping, the rest funds be paid before goods be shipped out.
B 
The price is about 1399USD/unit for 10B of 4-cyl cranksB at a time. We will
work out the accurate costB after checked the sample. Would you please send
any pictures of the crank at first.
B 
Any other questions, please feel free to let us know.
B 
Best regards
maxspeedingrods


From fpspitfire at comcast.net  Fri Sep 16 16:24:07 2011
From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (fpspitfire at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:24:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] WOW!!!  Flags are COOL!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <8CE4297FEFAE4EB-CC8-120C0@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1710637724.715838.1316211847549.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

is it too late to get a flag...it will look nice next to the new rig

----- Original Message -----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
To: SeaCubeCo at aol.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, 16 September, 2011 10:56:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] WOW!!! B Flags are COOL!!!!!

THANKS! B  ONCE AGAIN.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] WOW!!! Flags are COOL!!!!!


Your flags were the first to be sent. The rest went out yesterday and the non
S flags are going today.
I am glad you like them.
Chris
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Got RiffRAF Racing's two official FOT flags today! B They are GORGEOUS,
B Chris!!!!!

B We will fly them proudly at Sebring September 23/24th...you folks
B think of us as we try to bring some more glory to Triumph at the fabled
rack
B :-)

B Thanks, Chris!!!!!

B Jamie Palmer
B Squadron Leader
B RiffRAF Racing
B '75 TR6
B "Lacey2"
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 21:31:18 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:31:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 Billet crank source
Message-ID: <1E2F7DBF-5E2F-479A-B395-32E84F57D5B4@aol.com>

Since the topic came up again, thought I'd send a note that Marine  
Crankshaft is going to make a small run of TR4 cranks. Not too late to  
join in if you need one for a winter rebuild:

"I have been working with Marine Crankshaft Inc. in Santa Ana, CA,, to  
pattern and produce a TR3/4 billet crankshaft. They are a very  
specialized high-performance crankshaft mfr. The goal was a better  
option on price and delivery, and an updated "5 main bearing" design  
like Crower and Racestoration's (http://www.racetorations.co.uk/page17.html 
). This has been achieved and then some with reduced weight. I have  
the initial unit now. I can send pictures if you are interested and  
contact me off-line.

For now, the owner has asked me to get word out that he welcomes  
additional orders from FOT racers, so here are the details:

$2300.00 includes plasma nitride hardening and dynamic no holes  
balancing.

Standard TR dimensions with aftermarket rear seal area at 2.525" (per  
Uncle Jack's Engine Building Tips). Call for charge to make original  
scroll seal flange.

Rear flange drilled to purchaser's spec at no charge

$100 charge to dimension for Non-standard con rods (i.e. Chevy, Honda)

Actual shipping charges for delivery

No sales tax on orders shipped out of CA (8.75% within CA)

50% Deposit required.

14 week delivery

Orders placed directly with David Eden at cacranks at yahoo.com. Mention  
"FoT Deal".

See www.marinecrankshaftinc.com for additional info."

John Frymark


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 18 07:22:47 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:22:47 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <0DE24370B1F2492B812123280908D098@gdhs.local>
References: <000001cc7470$e060a110$a121e330$@com>
	<0DE24370B1F2492B812123280908D098@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <000101cc7606$10984e00$31c8ea00$@com>

This is the whole race - for boring evenings:

http://youtu.be/7yd0SA1zEZk

Cheers
Chris


From spitlist at cox.net  Sun Sep 18 12:21:59 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:21:59 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
In-Reply-To: <000101cc7606$10984e00$31c8ea00$@com>
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	<000101cc7606$10984e00$31c8ea00$@com>
Message-ID: <D9ECA602481E4C3D841772B6869F6AF9@Vista>

Nice!  But I am curious what that brief stop on the grass early in the race
was all about!

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:23 AM
To: 'fot'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74

This is the whole race - for boring evenings:

http://youtu.be/7yd0SA1zEZk

Cheers
Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 18 12:29:37 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:29:37 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
Message-ID: <mailman.41.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

Simple:
The OD failed an it felt like if an axle broke or the engine seized.

I stopped the car to make sure that its nothing serious. Then a stop at the pits to try a repair.


------Originalnachricht------
Von: Joe Curry
An: 'MadMarx'
An: 'fot'
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74
Gesendet: 18. Sep. 2011 20:21

Nice!  But I am curious what that brief stop on the grass early in the race
was all about!

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:23 AM
To: 'fot'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Eifelrace on board #74

This is the whole race - for boring evenings:

http://youtu.be/7yd0SA1zEZk

Cheers
Chris
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From tylerpthompson at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 19:54:23 2011
From: tylerpthompson at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?dHlsZXJwdGhvbXBzb25AeWFob28uY29t?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:54:23 -0600
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?TR4_billet_crank_source?=
Message-ID: <493386.78835.qm@smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Are they made in USA?  English not so good.    

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone


From EDENMA at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 22:46:28 2011
From: EDENMA at aol.com (EDENMA at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:46:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source
Message-ID: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>

yeh......I kinda doubt it.....but I am still interested in looking at  it.
 
 
In a message dated 9/18/2011 7:54:11 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
tylerpthompson at yahoo.com writes:

Are they  made in USA?  English not so good.    

Sent from my  Verizon Wireless 4GLTE  smartphone


From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Sep 19 05:11:45 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:11:45 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source
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Message-ID: <001301cc76bc$ebcbc130$c3634390$@camoletti.ch>

Maxspeedrod make their stuff in China. There were a few FOT email exchanges
already a few months ago about their TR4 con rods sold very cheap at 500 or
so.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de EDENMA at aol.com
Envoyi : lundi 19 septembre 2011 06:46
@ : tylerpthompson at yahoo.com; toodamnfunky at comcast.net; fot at autox.team.net
Objet : Re: [Fot] TR4 billet crank source

yeh......I kinda doubt it.....but I am still interested in looking at  it.


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tylerpthompson at yahoo.com writes:

Are they  made in USA?  English not so good.

Sent from my  Verizon Wireless 4GLTE  smartphone
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From gasket.works at verizon.net  Mon Sep 19 08:41:18 2011
From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:41:18 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR6  crankshafts
References: <106f0.7c0e4dd0.3ba82324@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007e01cc76da$315a2080$0701a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>

As of this am the TR6 Crankshaft order has four bonafide (money paid) orders 
and a fifth order likely this week. If you are interested in this group 
order contact me off-line.

m

M.N.Dunst
Gasket Works USA, LLC
www.Headgasket.com
626.358.1616 ph1
626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax

Triple R Munitions, Inc.
Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax
GMT-8 Pacific


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon Sep 19 09:05:19 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:05:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] crankshafts...
References: <0LRM000E4CLMJA70@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net>
	<SNT136-W33488C2200E2EB9A1EC06AF9060@phx.gbl>
	<001301cc76da$878489a0$0701a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
Message-ID: <3F2C78F3690345D7A2096A68D7A8F3B1@Charly>

Yes, I emailed Ruth this A.M. and she replied and I'll be sending off funds
this afternoon.  Mine will allow another level of discount.
Sorry about the late response, been racing and kinda forgot.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: MORDY DUNST
  To: Sam Halkias ; Gt6steve at aol.com ; Charly Mitchel
  Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:43 AM
  Subject: crankshafts...


  I just spoke to Ruth at farndon.   We have four orders in and are awaiting a
few others...   I understand that Charly wanted to order one as well.....


  Mordy

  M.N.Dunst
  Gasket Works USA, LLC
  www.Headgasket.com
  626.358.1616 ph1
  626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
  626.628.3777 fax

  Triple R Munitions, Inc.
  Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
  626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
  626.628.3777 fax
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    -----


From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Sep 19 09:10:55 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:10:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
Message-ID: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>

AMICI,
A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
family.
In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
be faster cars.
My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
and son moment" I will never forget!
THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
this possible.
A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing.


From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 13:23:41 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:23:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc7701$a44c2cb0$ece48610$@net>

Nice job Jason

 

Craig

 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:11 AM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!

 

AMICI,

A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my

family.

In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.

After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of

coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!

The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should

be faster cars.

My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father

and son moment" I will never forget!

THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make

this possible.

A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.

Jason Ostrowski

Friendly Ghost Racing.

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From trdoctor at aol.com  Mon Sep 19 13:31:22 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:31:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
Message-ID: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>

YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.  That's
as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half price
which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?

Sam
Green Country Triumphs


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon Sep 19 14:02:57 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:02:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CE451E425FDC74-1D58-4171D@webmail-m060.sysops.aol.com>

what it is about......

and another f/s team for atlanta....

thanks!






-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 2:16 pm
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!


AMICI,
 life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
amily.
n a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
fter many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
oming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
he rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
e faster cars.
y Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
nd son moment" I will never forget!
HANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
his possible.
 very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
ason Ostrowski
riendly Ghost Racing.
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Mon Sep 19 14:08:39 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:08:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002001cc7707$eca9a900$c5fcfb00$@com>

Congratulations, Jason!!  I think you've earned it with all of your hard
work.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:11 AM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!

AMICI,
A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
family.
In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
be faster cars.
My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
and son moment" I will never forget!
THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
this possible.
A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing.
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From gp89 at charter.net  Mon Sep 19 15:14:09 2011
From: gp89 at charter.net (Jeff Senty)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:14:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
Message-ID: <45093902.4073a.1328389f638.Webtop.45@charter.net>

There is nothing sweeter than the first win. How grand to be able to 
share the moment with your dad. Congratulations !
Jeff Senty


On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> AMICI,
> A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and 
> my
> family.
> In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed 
> brilliantly.
> After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
> coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to 
> sweet!
> The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some 
> should
> be faster cars.
> My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional 
> "father
> and son moment" I will never forget!
> THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to 
> make
> this possible.
> A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing.
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 19 15:38:25 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316468305.72197.YahooMailRC@web80806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Congratulations.



----- Original Message ----
From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 11:10:55 AM
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!

AMICI,
A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
family.
In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
be faster cars.
My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
and son moment" I will never forget!
THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
this possible.
A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing.
_______________________________________________
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 15:54:39 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:54:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fire Suppression System
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYrfznMzF9XuGwjUr1naD_JkoScvV9aiQtxzTG47EnoQJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU160-W323408F228AC5FB07A496EBA050@phx.gbl>
	<CALCydYrfznMzF9XuGwjUr1naD_JkoScvV9aiQtxzTG47EnoQJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D7881E78-FEA4-4C6D-95A9-1163ADD3538F@gmail.com>

Halon for extinguishers is liquid gold -- expensive and much harder to obtain
these days. I think I read that it's no longer legal to manufacture it in the
USA.

It's the best for fire extinguishing.  I saw a live comparison of various
extinguishing agents and it is clearly superior.  1301 is less toxic than 1211
and either will displace oxygen in a confined area.

Info here: http://www.gulfwidesafety.com/gws/docs/NVIC_6-72_chapter6.pdf

The local fire extinguisher service company ought to be able to check it out
for you.  Whatever you do, don't vent it just to check -- you might not be
able to get it recharged.

Duncan


On Sep 13, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> Most likely it is still o.k. but to be sure, you can't go by the gauge. It
> is my understanding that since it is a liquid (which is released as a gas)
> it's content is measured by weight. I took mine to Pegasus last year and
> they weighed it and checked the spec weight of the bottle. It is the weight
> of the liquid that is important. Mine was probably older than yours and
> checked out fine. Halon keeps working a lot longer than newer type systems
> (FE-36 and AFFF) but is higher in toxicity and hard to clean up. It cannot
> be refilled like the newer systems. So if it is not the proper weight, you
> have to replace the whole bottle. In which case it would probably be best
to
> change to a AFFF or FE-36 bottle that fits your old set-up. Maybe If you
> contact PegasusAuto Racing Supplies (they are an authorized fire system
> center), they would give you the total weight that your bottle AND liquid
> should be. Then you could weigh it yourself.
>
> Not an expert but did do some research on this last year.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, marty sukey <trmarty at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Question for the experts out there.  As I am freshening up the spitfire I
>> had
>> to pull out the fire bottle.  It is a halon bottle.  It has a few years on
>> it
>> but shows fully charged.  Do these things need serviced or recertified
>> after X
>> amount of years?  Or if fully charge they last indefinitely?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Marty
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From andre at gt6.ca  Mon Sep 19 16:27:13 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:27:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
In-Reply-To: <000001cc7701$a44c2cb0$ece48610$@net>
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001cc7701$a44c2cb0$ece48610$@net>
Message-ID: <CADr8x9bD1MoRNUZEFZ1BCc7RVqPCBAJFLxLm8HpAQXQdNXHVkA@mail.gmail.com>

WAY TO GO!

A.

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Ottawa, ON, Canada

> Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:11 AM
> To: triumph friends
> Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
>
>
>
> AMICI,
>
> A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
>
> family.
>
> In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
>
> After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
>
> coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
>
> The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some should
>
> be faster cars.
>
> My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
>
> and son moment" I will never forget!
>
> THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
>
> this possible.
>
> A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
>
> Friendly Ghost Racing.


From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 18:03:30 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:03:30 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <45BB578DBA234FB893BA4EBAB7EEF7CE@Bud>

Have fun Sam!!....sounds like it's in your blood...When you get on the 
track, you'll know exactly what to do...It'll come naturally..
Racer Bud..Spitfire #21
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving 
> formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day. 
> That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving 
> though.  I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage 
> races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half 
> price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The 
> only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet 
> today so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 
> and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs
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From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 18:05:27 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:05:27 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
References: <CALCydYqWdygB791+q0b3nP+b5yKzwiodEEwZZdgw2HKGS=Phjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1316468305.72197.YahooMailRC@web80806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0FB365A0ED3C4C33A66B4C0169DAE1E5@Bud>

Congratulations Jason!!...driving in the rain takes a nice 'touch'
Racer Bud Spitfire #21
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Mitchell" <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Jason Ostrowski" <jason at multivintage.com>; "triumph friends" 
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!


> Congratulations.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
> To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 11:10:55 AM
> Subject: [Fot] FGR VICTORY at Blackhawk Farms!
>
> AMICI,
> A life long dream came true in the pouring rain yesterday for me and my
> family.
> In a tough race for the lead with a Porsche, my GT6 performed brilliantly.
> After many long nights of preparation, and a 35 year family history of
> coming up just short of victory in our GT6's... the win was all to sweet!
> The rain was again the great equalizer, giving me the edge over some 
> should
> be faster cars.
> My Dad got to ride with me on the Victory Lap, a greatly emotional "father
> and son moment" I will never forget!
> THANKS TO ALL MY TRIUMPH FRIENDS for technical help and mentoring to make
> this possible.
> A very proud FOT... bringing home a checkered flag for our group.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing.
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>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 05:22:57 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:22:57 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <785E046ADE424BBBBBDC980256C55595@owner8914bbf7f>

Sam, I agree with Bud; have fun!!!! Enjoy the day, and like they say at 
BeaveRun, be sure to take a towel with you to wipe off the big grin at the 
end of the day.
Enjoy.
Bill Tobin  Getting quicker TR6
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving 
> formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day. 
> That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving 
> though.  I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage 
> races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half 
> price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The 
> only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet 
> today so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 
> and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 06:45:55 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:45:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>

On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh, and
a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street cars)
and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:

> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.
I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today
so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam


From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Tue Sep 20 07:28:21 2011
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (Diesel Performance Parts - Info)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:28:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Revolution wheels for sale
Message-ID: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DACA4@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>

Hey Members,

Got a set of 4 13 x 6 four spoke Revolution wheels for sale. They are aluminum
and are originals. Fit the Spitfire and Lotus 4 lug pattern. Very nice
condition. I'd be using them but I have 7/16" studs and these are set up for
the 3/8" studs. I don't want to drill them out as they are originals and such
and are sort of scarce. Wanted to see if anyone on the list wanted them prior
to listing them on e bay.

Mark Craig
Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
411 Allied Drive
Nashville, TN 37211
866-455-7788 Phone
615-834-9923 Fax

www.dieselperformanceparts.com


From sjanzen at me.com  Tue Sep 20 07:31:55 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:31:55 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <785E046ADE424BBBBBDC980256C55595@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<785E046ADE424BBBBBDC980256C55595@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <6BFC9A02-9D18-43A8-AA3F-4924E74866FA@me.com>

My mechanical advice is to make sure the car has have plenty of oil, coolant is topped up,  tires are at pressure and you've bled the brakes.  Better yet, go out on a straight road, get up to speed and jam on the brakes and make sure they don't pull to one side.  I've found that putt-putting around at moderate speeds, I often don't notice that there's  a frozen caliper or the equivalent, because the system is not getting stressed like it would on a race track.
The day will be much more fun if you aren't chasing mechanical issues.  


> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day. That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
> 
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs


From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 08:54:57 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:54:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
Message-ID: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>

Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling TR6
issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.

The details:

I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
the rings etc......

Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old reief
spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 at
idle.

I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
the "county" brand.

A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.

Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.

The car runs cool.  Never much above 160

I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit waiting
in line to get in the car show.

Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 miles
home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still liked
to smoke.

I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away as
I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.

Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.


Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM


From andre at gt6.ca  Tue Sep 20 09:22:07 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:22:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADr8x9YLWnoN7E7y2RKKzr6=T2=ra-bEs9eKNj2d0PVvY0EMrA@mail.gmail.com>

Open top cars are far easier to get roll cages into and service.

Yes you can get wet, but on a nice race car that wind it wonderful.

Until you take a chunk of rubber off the helmet ;)

Don't forget a HANS device.

A.

On 20 September 2011 08:45, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and
> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars)
> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
> I
>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
> races
>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
only
>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
today
> so
>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>
>> Sam
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Ottawa, ON, Canada


From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Tue Sep 20 09:27:28 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:27:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <390834960B09442EBD5EC1BFE2102FC0@gdhs.local>

In view of my experience on Sat. @Savannah, I would also suggest a good fire
extinguisher

John H. Hasty
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-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Munson
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:46 AM
To: Sam Clark
Cc: John Phillips; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars) and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:

> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
formula
> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
That's
> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
> though.
I
> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the
> vintage
races
> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I
> also helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun. Last week
> there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
price
> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
> only down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my
> helmet today
so
> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>
> Sam
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 10:30:04 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:30:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs, if 
you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's 
not if, but when they break......
I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side is 
very reasonable.
I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
NFI, of course.
Have fun, Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers 
> with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh, 
> and
> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street 
> cars)
> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving 
>> though.
> I
>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
> races
>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The 
>> only
>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet 
>> today
> so
>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 
>> and
>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>
>> Sam
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 20 11:14:53 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:14:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALCydYrw4Atqm6d6=eVe-CPeb-xC4Yb21uPzAoND=_KN595iXg@mail.gmail.com>

For that matter, same advice on the GT6. In general the stock set up on the
rear axles is not appropriate for majorly pushing it on the track in an
HPDE. Having fun out there with a track touring approach is one thing...but
keep in mind that under a strong cornering load the axles have been known to
buckle under and fail with devastating consequence. This has happened to
more than one of even the best and well prepared GT6 race cars owned by
esteemed members of this very group. All of us GT6 racers would not even
think about going out without some type of upgraded set-up. And by far
the best stock set up is that of the GT6+ or mark 2. Flush any old brake
fluid and use Castrol LMA from a fresh unopened bottle. Also consider
draining the trans fluid and using the best available synthetic fluid Royal
Purple Syncromax or Red Line MTL. Oh, and bring a spare transmission with
you just in case. :)
Have Fun!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing GT6
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com> wrote:

> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
> and
> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
> cars)
> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
> > fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
> > as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
> though.
> I
> > have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
> races
> > and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> > helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> > Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
> > which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
> only
> > down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
> today
> so
> > here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
> and
> > the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
> >
> > Sam
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 11:30:13 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:30:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <7EFD7B92-ED92-4C3E-90E7-1BC0BC7355A5@earthlink.net>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>,
	<7EFD7B92-ED92-4C3E-90E7-1BC0BC7355A5@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W25C0B6BC37F0004E8AE3BB900A0@phx.gbl>

I have the engine sealed up pretty well.  It leaks a little out the oil filter
bolt.  I'll try to fix that when I change the oil next.  It leaks a little out
the fill cap on the alloy valve cover (that bugs me).

There is a nice smoke trail, Blue or grey, not black puffs nicely at traffic
lights and shifts, not too noticeable on the freeway.  Certainly not dying
bomber status, doesn't seem to be fouling the plugs...........Cheers Henry

> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
> From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:21:53 -0700
> To: dos_gusanos at msn.com
>
> Henry, does it puff blue smoke or leak? can you tell where the oil is going?
You must determine this before you can fix the problem.


From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Sep 20 11:36:31 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:36:31 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <13BC48488E3046A4BAC2446B76CD8812@Bud>

Henry...If you have an increased amount of smoke after idling, it sounds 
like badly leaking valve guides....The oil is accumulating on the top of the 
pistons, and not burning off quickly, as it will when under power...
Racer Bud
Spitfire #21
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:54 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.


> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling 
> TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly. 
> Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old 
> reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 
> at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they 
> were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit 
> waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 
> miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still 
> liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes 
> away as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 11:42:53 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:42:53 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3B27030A-00E6-41ED-84CA-0BE98EF0FF8D@gmail.com>

Did they install seals on the intake valve guides?  Were the valve guides
checked for clearance?  High intake manifold vacuum that the engine
experiences at idle may be drawing oil through the guides and into the
combustion chamber.  Have you checked compression or done a leak down test
yet?  This would help determine whether the rings have anything to do with the
smoking.  If you have a compression gauge, try a test (throttle plates open)
and then test again after squirting a little bit of oil in through the plug
holes to help seal the rings.

Duncan
(Texas)


On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Henry Morrison wrote:

> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old
reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50
at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20
miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 20 12:30:17 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:30:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CALCydYr6h95Q3so2-qtNRnas86raTqYZHN0p-Wdk2M2xDPPnfw@mail.gmail.com>

The smoking bothers me more than the consumption. Most often that symptom is
a sign that its time for a rebuild due to ring wear.
My GT6 drinks oil like a college kid at a keg party. About a quart for every
30 min session. I often wonder where it's going?
I've been trying to figure that out for two seasons now.
But now the smoking I have, exactly as you describe, tells me its time for a
rebuild.
Unfortunately, the cheap pistons and rings my not have been a wise choice.
But hind sight is 20/20.
You're past your break in point already, use the heaviest oil it'll run on
and get some fun out of it.
Put a diaper (wads of heavy paper towels) anywhere you think it might be
leaking to be sure the smoking isn't from oil leaking on the hot stuff and
also to tell you how much it may be leaking.
Some easy little things that may help a bit.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com> wrote:

> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
> TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old
> reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50
> at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
> waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20
> miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
> liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
> as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From trdoctor at aol.com  Tue Sep 20 12:56:16 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:56:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
	<EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
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Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet and
long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red Line
MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head where
things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.

Sam


On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:

> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs, if
you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's not
if, but when they break......
> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side is
very reasonable.
> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
> NFI, of course.
> Have fun, Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
>
>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers
with
>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and
>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars)
>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>
>> Mike Munson
>> #28 EP TR6
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
>> formula
>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>> That's
>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
>> I
>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
>> races
>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
>> price
>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
only
>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
today
>> so
>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>
>>> Sam
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com  Tue Sep 20 13:51:01 2011
From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (rkramer3)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:51:01 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <390834960B09442EBD5EC1BFE2102FC0@gdhs.local>
References: <390834960B09442EBD5EC1BFE2102FC0@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <14FA0AD0-1555-4B92-B547-2A2676443D89@austin.rr.com>

Do tell......

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:27 AM, "John Hasty" <jhhasty at gdhs.com> wrote:

> In view of my experience on Sat. @Savannah, I would also suggest a good
fire
> extinguisher
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Mike Munson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:46 AM
> To: Sam Clark
> Cc: John Phillips; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
>
> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers with
> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
> and a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
> cars) and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>
> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
> formula
>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
> That's
>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
>> though.
> I
>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the
>> vintage
> races
>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I
>> also helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun. Last week
>> there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
> price
>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
>> only down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my
>> helmet today
> so
>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
> and
>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>
>> Sam
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 14:36:04 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:36:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
Message-ID: <SNT134-W27DA95BA47381F57D25061900A0@phx.gbl>

Well, yeah,   I did measure the end gaps on the rings.  All were within the
specifications.  The compression numbers when I checked them after 100 or so
miles were low (90 lbs at 7000 ft.) but even.  The rings came on the pistons
and were black in color, looked like they had been plated black.

I don't think that I broke any of the rings on installation.

The machine shop told me the guides were OK when I probed them as to why they
didn't ask to replace them additionally they said if they were shot, the car
would still not use that much oil.

I may strike out at the engine physically and violently if I have to
re-rebuild it.

Cheers Henry Morrison


From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Tue Sep 20 14:52:19 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:52:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <07c901cc77d7$30fef130$92fcd390$@rr.com>

> smokes when shifiting

What did you do to fix the leaking valve guides?

(I'll skip the cheap shot tho I'm sure others won't <g>)

-- Randall 


From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Sep 20 15:14:26 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:14:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <07c901cc77d7$30fef130$92fcd390$@rr.com>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>,
	<07c901cc77d7$30fef130$92fcd390$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W56B7E9202D0F264DB02B06900A0@phx.gbl>

So, do ya think it's the guides?  I'd much rather replace those, than rings
and honing..................Cheers Henry


> From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com
> To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:52:19 -0700
>
> > smokes when shifiting
>
> What did you do to fix the leaking valve guides?
>
> (I'll skip the cheap shot tho I'm sure others won't <g>)
>
> -- Randall


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Tue Sep 20 15:28:35 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:28:35 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com>
	<EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
	<82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F02D42E@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

Front brake pads like Hawk Blues would be a simple but effective temporary
improvement. Turn 3 at Hallett will test your brakes. I've also used the EBC
Green Stuff but if I were you would keep them away from your car. They shed
hot, little metal particles.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Sam Clark
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:56 PM
To: william r tobin
Cc: John Phillips; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap

Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet and
long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red Line
MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head where
things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.

Sam


On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:

> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear
> hubs, if
you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's not
if, but when they break......
> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a
> side is
very reasonable.
> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
> NFI, of course.
> Have fun, Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
>
>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake
>> calipers
with
>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing
>> HPDEs. Oh,
and
>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in
>> street
cars)
>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>
>> Mike Munson
>> #28 EP TR6
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA
>>> driving
>> formula
>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>> That's
>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
>> I
>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the
>>> vintage
>> races
>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I
>>> also helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for
>>> half
>> price
>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.
>>> The
only
>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my
>>> helmet
today
>> so
>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>
>>> Sam
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Tue Sep 20 15:28:36 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:28:36 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com><CBB46D7E-178F-415F-BE12-5DB8D1BF4DA7@yahoo.com><EE0A5F52A9444E88B181AD90925EB64E@owner8914bbf7f>
	<82010D87-F480-4744-8B69-52C0A7F6E7E4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9EEA51166D704751BCA9D7BDB04C7183@Charly>

Sam,
Please understand that the rear hub on a TR6, TR250, TR4A, can and will 
break at any time.. It's not a matter of how many races or how hard you race 
it, the hub will snap off the stub axle at the end of the taper!  Everyone I 
know with a TR IRS suspension, even TVR's has broken one if not changed.  My 
car nearly flipped over when it broken at about 50mph and the tire went out 
the back.
As a matter of fact, I think all Triumphs and variations have this problem, 
even the non-IRS cars.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
To: "william r tobin" <william.tobin31 at verizon.net>
Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
> consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
> sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet 
> and
> long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
> check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red 
> Line
> MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head 
> where
> things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.
>
> Sam
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:
>
>> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs, 
>> if
> you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's 
> not
> if, but when they break......
>> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side 
>> is
> very reasonable.
>> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
>> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
>> NFI, of course.
>> Have fun, Bill
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
>> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>>
>>
>>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers
> with
>>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. 
>>> Oh,
> and
>>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
> cars)
>>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>>
>>> Mike Munson
>>> #28 EP TR6
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
>>> formula
>>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>>> That's
>>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
> though.
>>> I
>>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the 
>>>> vintage
>>> races
>>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I 
>>>> also
>>>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
>>> price
>>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
> only
>>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
> today
>>> so
>>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
> and
>>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>>
>>>> Sam
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 17:47:52 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:47:52 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1B0C3BC8A55F4C4DA33F95EA5360812C@owner8914bbf7f>

Henry, another thought: did you hone the cylinder walls well before you 
installed the pistons/rings? Sounds like the rings have not seated.
Just wondering.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:54 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.


> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling 
> TR6
> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>
> The details:
>
> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly. 
> Staggered
> the rings etc......
>
> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old 
> reief
> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 
> at
> idle.
>
> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they 
> were
> the "county" brand.
>
> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>
> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>
> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>
> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit 
> waiting
> in line to get in the car show.
>
> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 
> miles
> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still 
> liked
> to smoke.
>
> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes 
> away as
> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>
> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>
>
> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 18:11:43 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:11:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
In-Reply-To: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1316563903.42087.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Sam;
Make sure the tires are up to temp before going fast.  Having spun more
than once on an out lap on cold tires I know.  Get up to speed slowly.  The
class you had will be huge in helping you.  Kinda just do the same thing.  I
did the skip barber 3 day class.  Went to another local school and on my first
lap out in a CR (Club Rabbit) I spun.  Now after racing 6 years with the
Rabbit and my TR4 vintage car (2 years)  I spun on the out lap in the Rabbit
in August.  What an embarassment.  Tires cold and not near as sticky as the
Hoosiers i run on the TR. 
 
Just have fun and drive for yourself.  Dont worry
about impressing anyone.  
 
Mike

From: Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Cc: John Phillips <tr6 at atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, September
19, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap

YEARS ago I took a 3 day
class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
fords.  It was a blast. 
Went back a year later and did a lapping day.  That's
as far as my racing
career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
have been to
Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
and have
driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
helped Larry
Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
Last week there was a Groupon for a
day of High Speed Touring  for half price
which included a race port,
transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
down side is it is on Nov.
19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
here goes. . .  Larry even
offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any
advice?

Sam
Green Country Triumphs
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From malaboge at aol.com  Tue Sep 20 19:14:58 2011
From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:14:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE4613038FAA38-D94-823C9@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>

Henry,

>From your posts, I see 2 possible clues...
1. Huge Oil pressure
2. The car runs cool.  Never much above 160

My guess...combo of the hi pressure pushing too much oil everywhere including
into the cylinders where its washing the cylinders down, and never getting hot
enuf to seat the rings amid the wash of oil...

At this point you may have glazed the walls/rings and once you lower the OP,
you might try the ole Bon Ami trick.  If that doesnt work you may have to
re-hone and re-ring...

sometimes too much is just that...
Nick in Nor Cal





-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Sep 20, 2011 10:12 am
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.


Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling TR6
ssue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
sing just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
The details:
I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
he rings etc......
Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old reief
pring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 at
dle.
I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
he "county" brand.
A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
rom lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit waiting
n line to get in the car show.
Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 miles
ome all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still liked
o smoke.
I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
as
'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
upming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.

heers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Tue Sep 20 19:51:26 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:51:26 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000001cc7800$fe820a10$fb861e30$@com>

You might want to pull the plugs and check them.  If you have one or more
really bad guides those plugs are going to be really black and sooty.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Henry Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:55 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.

Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
TR6
issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.

The details:

I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.  Staggered
the rings etc......

Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old reief
spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50 at
idle.

I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they were
the "county" brand.

A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.

Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.

The car runs cool.  Never much above 160

I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
waiting
in line to get in the car show.

Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20 miles
home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
liked
to smoke.

I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes away
as
I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.

Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.


Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Sep 20 21:06:41 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:06:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
References: <60EBE428-3AC8-4793-9469-3662F6AF83BB@aol.com>
	<1316563903.42087.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C85B5E0DEC948D28AE5244681ABEDFD@Bud>

And Sam...remember...If things get confusing you can always just 'close your 
eyes'(:>)
RB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
Cc: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap


> Sam;
> Make sure the tires are up to temp before going fast.  Having spun more
> than once on an out lap on cold tires I know.  Get up to speed slowly. 
> The
> class you had will be huge in helping you.  Kinda just do the same thing. 
> I
> did the skip barber 3 day class.  Went to another local school and on my 
> first
> lap out in a CR (Club Rabbit) I spun.  Now after racing 6 years with the
> Rabbit and my TR4 vintage car (2 years)  I spun on the out lap in the 
> Rabbit
> in August.  What an embarassment.  Tires cold and not near as sticky as 
> the
> Hoosiers i run on the TR.
>
> Just have fun and drive for yourself.  Dont worry
> about impressing anyone.
>
> Mike
>
> From: Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com>
> To:
> fot at autox.team.net
> Cc: John Phillips <tr6 at atlasok.com>
> Sent: Monday, September
> 19, 2011 12:31 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>
> YEARS ago I took a 3 day
> class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving formula
> fords.  It was a blast.
> Went back a year later and did a lapping day.  That's
> as far as my racing
> career went.  It did help with spirited driving though.  I
> have been to
> Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage races
> and have
> driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
> helped Larry
> Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
> Last week there was a Groupon for a
> day of High Speed Touring  for half price
> which included a race port,
> transponder, and class room sessions.  The only
> down side is it is on Nov.
> 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet today so
> here goes. . .  Larry even
> offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6 and
> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any
> advice?
>
> Sam
> Green Country Triumphs
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 20 21:36:31 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:36:31 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
Message-ID: <mailman.42.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

Valve guides do smoke "on throttle", piston rings do smoke "off throttle".
How does your engine smoke?

Christ 
------Originalnachricht------
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An: fot
Betreff: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
Gesendet: 20. Sep. 2011 22:36

Well, yeah,   I did measure the end gaps on the rings.  All were within the
specifications.  The compression numbers when I checked them after 100 or so
miles were low (90 lbs at 7000 ft.) but even.  The rings came on the pistons
and were black in color, looked like they had been plated black.

I don't think that I broke any of the rings on installation.

The machine shop told me the guides were OK when I probed them as to why they
didn't ask to replace them additionally they said if they were shot, the car
would still not use that much oil.

I may strike out at the engine physically and violently if I have to
re-rebuild it.

Cheers Henry Morrison
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 21 06:15:40 2011
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:15:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 Master Cylinders
Message-ID: <1316607340.44674.YahooMailRC@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A M I C I

Does anyone have any TR4 brake and or clutch master cylinders on their junk 
pile?
I am still looking for some original Girling stuff to rebuild for my street TR4.

Thanks
Dennis DeLap


From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 07:22:22 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:22:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in.
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYr6h95Q3so2-qtNRnas86raTqYZHN0p-Wdk2M2xDPPnfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT134-W333359E78A0D095A7CF7BC900A0@phx.gbl>
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Jason,
If your crankcase vents into your GT6 intake manifold, does it have a pcv
valve?  It will prevent drawing such a heavy vacuum on the crankcase at idle.
I finally got around to installing on on a Rover V8 with an aftermarket
4-barrel carb conversion and the oil consumption dropped by a huge amount.
Duncan
(Texas)

On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> The smoking bothers me more than the consumption. Most often that symptom
is
> a sign that its time for a rebuild due to ring wear.
> My GT6 drinks oil like a college kid at a keg party. About a quart for
every
> 30 min session. I often wonder where it's going?
> I've been trying to figure that out for two seasons now.
> But now the smoking I have, exactly as you describe, tells me its time for
a
> rebuild.
> Unfortunately, the cheap pistons and rings my not have been a wise choice.
> But hind sight is 20/20.
> You're past your break in point already, use the heaviest oil it'll run on
> and get some fun out of it.
> Put a diaper (wads of heavy paper towels) anywhere you think it might be
> leaking to be sure the smoking isn't from oil leaking on the hot stuff and
> also to tell you how much it may be leaking.
> Some easy little things that may help a bit.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
wrote:
>
>> Hello group,  Once again I cry out for help with the latest mind boggling
>> TR6
>> issue.  In short I just rebuilt the engine and I've got the engine down to
>> using just 1 quart of oil for every 60 miles travelled.
>>
>> The details:
>>
>> I did the best work within my current skill set during assembly.
Staggered
>> the rings etc......
>>
>> Did my 20 minute run in at 2000 rpm.  Huge Oil pressure, put in an old
>> reief
>> spring to get it off the peg on the gauge now about 75 lbs on the raod 50
>> at
>> idle.
>>
>> I bought the cheapest pistons I could find on ebay....... I think they
were
>> the "county" brand.
>>
>> A friend took my yellow fan for his TVR and gave me his red 13 blade fan.
>>
>> Car runs pretty well, performs within reason.
>>
>> The car runs cool.  Never much above 160
>>
>> I have put 4-500 miles on it and it smokes when shifiting and pulling away
>> from lights especially when you rev it after it has been idling a bit
>> waiting
>> in line to get in the car show.
>>
>> Yesterday I blocked 1/2 the radiator with cardboard and drove about 20
>> miles
>> home all up hill.  On arrival home the car was idling at 195, but still
>> liked
>> to smoke.
>>
>> I am going to continue to drive it and hope the problem magically goes
away
>> as
>> I'd rather buy oil than pull the engine apart at this point.
>>
>> Please chime in if you have any great ideas or know that mystery oil or
>> dupming Ajax in the engine will solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 21 11:21:56 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:21:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Taking the Leap
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Sam,

I have broken the rear axle with auto cross and street use only. I have
witnessed one breaking in an HPDE event. These incidents were not full time
racing. To expand on what Bill said these axles were broken when they cut the
keyway in, it is just a matter of time before they finish breaking. We warned
you, good luck!

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all of the advise.  If I was going racing full time I would
consider all of the upgrades.  This is a High Speed Touring with classroom
sessions and 5 15 minute sessions.  No roll bars required, just a helmet and
long pants and long sleeved shirt.  I will put the cars up on a hoist and
check all of the hubs, brakes, and change the transmission oil with Red Line
MT90.  The mail goal is to have fun and not get in too far over my head where
things break.  I understand that stuff happens.  That is the risk.
>
> Sam
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 AM, william r tobin wrote:
>
>> Hi, while you're doing the axles, you might as well put in new rear hubs,
if you haven't already. When I started racing the TR6, everyone told me, it's
not if, but when they break......
>> I put Good's hubs in 3 years ago and sleep better at night. $350 a side is
very reasonable.
>> I went with his front hubs this year; works of art.
>> You may already have Uncle Jack's front spindles; if not they work well.
>> NFI, of course.
>> Have fun, Bill
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Sam Clark" <trdoctor at aol.com>
>> Cc: "John Phillips" <tr6 at atlasok.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Taking the Leap
>>
>>
>>> On the TR6 start with up graded axles. New seals in the brake calipers
with
>>> fresh racing type brake fluid is always a good thing when doing HPDEs. Oh,
and
>>> a properly designed roll bar(not the skull  crackers you see in street
cars)
>>> and a decent 5 point harness. All safety items.
>>>
>>> Mike Munson
>>> #28 EP TR6
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> YEARS ago I took a 3 day class at Jim Russell at Riverside CA driving
>>> formula
>>>> fords.  It was a blast.  Went back a year later and did a lapping day.
>>> That's
>>>> as far as my racing career went.  It did help with spirited driving
though.
>>> I
>>>> have been to Hallett raceway in Jennings, OK a few times for the vintage
>>> races
>>>> and have driven the track during the lunch break and it was fun.  I also
>>>> helped Larry Young some.  He didn't need it but it fun.
>>>> Last week there was a Groupon for a day of High Speed Touring  for half
>>> price
>>>> which included a race port, transponder, and class room sessions.  The
only
>>>> down side is it is on Nov. 19.  Oh, well.  I just picked up my helmet
today
>>> so
>>>> here goes. . .   Larry even offered to crew for me.  It will be the TR6
and
>>>> the GT6.  Should be fun.  Any advice?
>>>>
>>>> Sam
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From dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 21 12:17:02 2011
From: dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net (dale oesterle)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:17:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Link
Message-ID: <1316629022.18664.yint-ygo-j2me@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This is the best thing ever http://www.giayhoa.com/info.html Check it!


From greenman62 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 21 13:54:06 2011
From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (Greg Petrolati)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:54:06 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 Master Cylinders
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Message-ID: <SNT111-W244D673D947A36A6851BEFD20D0@phx.gbl>

Hi Dennis,

Check with Pegasus... the last time I looked I found new clutch MCs there. I
think they're use in F Fords etc...

I don't know what you will do for the brakes tho... maybe Roadster Factory?

Greg Petrolati   Lafayette, Oregon



That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory...





> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:15:40 -0700
> From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> CC: isoa at googlegroups.com
> Subject: [Fot] TR4 Master Cylinders
>
> A M I C I
>
> Does anyone have any TR4 brake and or clutch master cylinders on their junk
> pile?
> I am still looking for some original Girling stuff to rebuild for my street
TR4.
>
> Thanks
> Dennis DeLap
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From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Sep 21 14:55:02 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:55:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Link
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Really?  You are now spamming the FOT list with Drug advertisements?  Or is
this just another high jacked way to send spam? 

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From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:17:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Link
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From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Wed Sep 21 20:10:53 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:53 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Link
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	<3B60D839A313430CAC0D5E0138057E46@Vista>
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> Really?  You are now spamming the FOT list with Drug advertisements?
> Or is
> this just another high jacked way to send spam?

I believe it is bogus, and did not come from Dale at all.  It was apparently
sent through Yahoo mail with Dale's "From" address, but Dale has a real ISP.

-- Randall 


From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Sep 21 21:31:16 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:31:16 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR250K
Message-ID: <93724D21959040D5A9C0AD9E22500E46@Vista>

Hey gang, the TR250K made a cameo appearance on the Car Show tonight!

 

Joe C.


From ac at camoletti.ch  Thu Sep 22 04:11:10 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:11:10 +0200
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, survey results
Message-ID: <000c01cc790f$f3a57900$daf06b00$@camoletti.ch>

Amici!
Following my survey about LSD 3 weeks ago, I got at some point very confused
and was really hesitating hard between Quaife and Salisbury plate types:
I will drive the car on snow, and on the dry I tend to lift rear wheels
(live axle car), and go on sometimes uneven grip surfaces, so Salisbury more
appropriate on real roads.
But the Salisbury needs maintenance (coating on the clutches wears and need
replacement), heats a lot, and gets soon noisy.
So not great for a road car.
At that point I was really thinking of getting a Quaife: gear driven, no
maintenance, no noise. But spinning wheel lifted or on loose surface will
not lock. Plus the Quaife will try to counteract tail sliding, while the
Salisbury will help getting it smooth.
Price was not an issue as here in Europe they have approx. the same price.
At that point Keith Files (Kastner Cup winner 2010) came up with the Gripper
diff he has now on his TR6. The Gripper inventor was into the Jaguar
engineering racing team during the Le Mans years and he did a lot of
transmission development.
Keith tried it in his 207BHP TR6 at Silverstone and at the Nurburgring.
Performs brilliantly.
No noises (usually after an hour the Salisbury TranX gets noisy and clonks)
.
No need to rebuild so far (while with the traditional LSD a rebuild would be
needed after 3-4 hours already).
Progressive action also.
The Gripper is a refined design of the Salisbury plate type. The plates wear
very slowly as they are not coated, they just bead in each other. So no
noise coming in while the coatings wear. Replacement plates are very cheap
as they have no special coating (# 3 or so each).
Seems like the best of both worlds.
So I ordered a Gripper this morning to Simon, TR Enterprises, cost # 700
+tax (same as TranX traditional Salisbury type and Quaife gear LSD), Specs
40/65 ramp angles and 8 clutch plates fitted (instead a 12 for race track
use, which gives more locking, but one can just add the 4 plates to modify
the diff in full race form at any time).
Thank you very much to Keith, Kas, Teri Ann, Joe Curry, Bob Lang, Tony(both:
Drew+ Sheach), Chuck Arnold, Jim Gray and Joe Alexander for their very
informative and useful feedbacks.

Gripper website, with interesting tech drawings:
http://www.davemacprops.com/gripper.html

All the best!
Alex Camoletti


From ac at camoletti.ch  Thu Sep 22 04:11:40 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:11:40 +0200
Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?StayUp=C2=AE_Floats_for_SU_Carburetters?=
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Amici,

The SU carburetter company in the UK (original manufacturer of our SU carbs)
just released so called unsinkable floats, see
http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ProductCategory.aspx?ParentId=277

It may be interesting.

Enjoy the we and for the ones on the track, have great races!

Alex Camoletti



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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Sep 22 08:10:32 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:10:32 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR250K
References: <93724D21959040D5A9C0AD9E22500E46@Vista>
Message-ID: <79D00196DB41442DBFD6296DCE2295B9@Charly>

If you look closely, you'll also see a shot of the paddock area with Mordy's 
car mostly highlighted, about 1 1/2 seconds, and the TR3 racer as well.  It 
then shows the TR250K and Adam asks what a strange looking car.  It airs 
again on Saturday.
I didn't see them there taping the show, but they were there the same time 
we had the Kastner Cup there.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Curry" <spitlist at cox.net>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:31 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR250K


> Hey gang, the TR250K made a cameo appearance on the Car Show tonight!
>
>
>
> Joe C.
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Thu Sep 22 10:30:18 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:30:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] StayUpR Floats for SU Carburetters
In-Reply-To: <000d01cc7910$05d34030$1179c090$@camoletti.ch>
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Report on similar floats from Joe Curto:
We got two of Joe's floats last spring, which are similar to the SU floats,
and installed them.  We ran 3 events this summer and have had no problems.
Carbs are H6's.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:12 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] StayUpR Floats for SU Carburetters

Amici,

The SU carburetter company in the UK (original manufacturer of our SU carbs)
just released so called unsinkable floats, see
http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ProductCategory.aspx?ParentId=277

It may be interesting.

Enjoy the we and for the ones on the track, have great races!

Alex Camoletti



De : info at sucarb.co.uk [mailto:info at sucarb.co.uk]
EnvoyC) : samedi 14 mai 2011 05:05
Objet : StayUpB. Floats for SU Carburetters



Greetings from The SU Carburetter Company,

We are pleased to introduce to you a new range of bunsinkableb floats made
by StayUpB..

The floats have been developed alongside the successful release of a similar
design by The AMAL Carburetter Company for their motorcycle Carburetters.
They
are constructed from a military spec material designed for use in the
warzone
where a fail safe operation of floating devices is critical. The material,
which is foam filled, will continue to float even when punctured and is
resistant to ethanol based fuels. All floats have been designed by SU to
match
the original specifications of size and weight for the standard items b
this
ensures easy replacement and float level settings.

The first to be released are the large T4 and medium T2 size floats for most
H, HV and HD type Carburetters with the smaller T1 size coming soon. HS type
Carburetter versions are also available now.

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From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep 22 14:59:52 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:59:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Runoffs Grid for EP
Message-ID: <CALCydYo6GA9yw27=U6GabJdW3RgTampzHv0-hASXTB0b3MKJUg@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like the final grid is set for the SCCA National Championship Runoffs
for EP. Our Friend Sam Halkias is starting fourth in the Catawaba Island
Marina TR6. He is surrounded by a bunch of different types of Mazda's all
with very similar qualifying times. Pole position qualified about two
seconds ahead of Sam and the 2nd and 3rd place cars about 1 second. So he
will have a tough race for the podium... but we know of the 34 cars on the
grid he has the coolest car and best chance.

The last qualifying session for FP starts at 4:10 and that will set the
final grid for the Group. I usual domination, Steve Sargis in his Spitfire
has been topping the charts and should take the pole.

Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep 22 18:09:41 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:09:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Runoffs Grid for FP and HP
Message-ID: <CALCydYovc8uuVWn9_vYJJugujbxhgPJ9HzNui=PycCx3QdENKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Steve Sargis is on top again with the pole in FP with a blistering time of
2:31.9
Also, Two other Spitfire 1500's in FP... Dieter Griesinger in 11th and Cris
Patrick in 14th.

In HP there are 3 Spitfires filling the field of 22 cars.
6th Jamie Blust
17th Tom Broring
20th Robert "Rocky" Entriken

All races can be viewed live on www.speedcasttv.com/*scca*

FP Friday at 1:30 pm
HP Sun at 8:30am
EP Sun at 1:30 pm

Lets go Triumphs!
Lets Go FOT!

Cheers!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Sep 23 18:13:48 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:13:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Racing Parts for sale
Message-ID: <8CE4865F71272A4-2AE4-571C7@webmail-m024.sysops.aol.com>

sounds like a spitfire spring and tr4 parts for sale.

got this from a friend.....

any interest?

Steve Yott pump is a hard to get item these days.

i might be interested in the pistons as spares






To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 20, 2011 8:07 pm
Subject: Racing Parts



Joe:
 I came across a lot of new racing parts for various Triumphs that I am
interested in selling.  One of which is a new competition fiberglass rear leaf
spring with three different aluminum spacer blocks.  I am not interested in
the spitfire parts as I have a TR4 and TR6 that I run autocross.  Ibd like
to find a good home for this part and have no idea on its value or where it
was purchased.  Do you have any idea  who sells them and who might be
interested in it? I have attached four pics of the item. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. I also have the following new parts for TR4 and 4A:
Richard Good Roller Rocker Set 1.55:1
TR4A Fidanza Aluminum flywheel
Moss Aluminum water pump housing and aluminum water pump
Moss 45D Race distributor with points
Aluminum front engine plate (gee, I wonder where this one came from)
TR4 cam shaft (new , not reground. 270 duration) This is a brand new (new
blank, not reground) high performance cam shaft for your Triumph TR3 or TR4.
It has a 270 Piper cams  grind
Triumph TR2-TR4A high performance oil pump by Steve Yott.
Set of fully machined and matched connecting rods for TR2-TR4A with ARP
hardware
Four new .030 pistons that I believe are for the TR2-4A connecting rods.
Still need to verify

Hope all is well and many thanks


From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 23 22:18:02 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:18:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
Message-ID: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I am still chasing the leak out of the oil pressure leak adjustment screw. 
After setting the oil pressure on my motor new for this season it has been
leaking all summer.  It looks to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems to
have them in their catalogs.   
 
Has anyone else had this type of leak?  Any
suggestions on how to fix/reduce the leak would be appriciated.
 
Thanks!! 
Mike Mehl
 

From: Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
To: 'Triumph Friends of'
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:30 PM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)

>  The seal
I
> referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have 
> any
thoughts on
> fixing this leak?

TRF shows P/N 500328 in stock.

-- Randall 
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sat Sep 24 00:53:35 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:53:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
	<1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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>  After setting the oil pressure on my motor 
> new for this season it has been leaking all summer.  It looks 
> to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems to have them in 
> their catalogs.   

One of my references calls 30123 "wire, lead".  A quick examination of a
relatively unmolested filter head shows something that might be lead.

So I'd probably try a turn of ordinary solder.

-- Randall  


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sat Sep 24 07:00:52 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:00:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] RACING PARTS FOR SALE
Message-ID: <8CE48D11FBD1EDF-1DE4-9BC99@webmail-d172.sysops.aol.com>

CONTACT INFORMATION:

JIM HENNINGSEN
trguy at cfl.rr.com

NFI


From N197TR4 at cs.com  Sat Sep 24 08:15:01 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:15:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Racing Parts
Message-ID: <1d622.299a971a.3baf3fe5@cs.com>

Contact:

Jim Henningsen

trguy at cfl.rr.com</HTML>


From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Sat Sep 24 09:15:18 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:15:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
	<1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E7DF406.2010604@blacksburg.net>

On 9/24/2011 12:18 AM, Mike Mehl wrote:
> I am still chasing the leak out of the oil pressure leak adjustment screw.
> After setting the oil pressure on my motor new for this season it has been
> leaking all summer.  It looks to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems to
> have them in their catalogs.
>
> Has anyone else had this type of leak?  Any
> suggestions on how to fix/reduce the leak would be appriciated.
>
> Thanks!!
> Mike Mehl
>    

Mike, I've successfully used a couple of turns of thin (~0.03) lead 
solder, then ensure that the jam nut is tight.  Keep the ends close so 
that they'll squeeze together and form the lead washer.

jim

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go


From stlnyc at msn.com  Sat Sep 24 16:33:59 2011
From: stlnyc at msn.com (Fred & Mary Hodgson)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:33:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Opinions
Message-ID: <SNT125-W19559920285E4590C1D339DA0E0@phx.gbl>

Amici-

Has anyone used Dunlop Direzzas on a race car?  If so, how'd they work & what
pressures were you running?  I'm running a '62 TR4.

Thanks in advance.

Fred Hodgson


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sat Sep 24 17:23:40 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:23:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Racing Parts
In-Reply-To: <018101cc7b0d$3eaabd30$bc003790$@rr.com>
References: <003601cc77fa$c42944b0$4c7bce10$@rr.com>
	<8CE48650E55609E-2AE4-57130@webmail-m024.sysops.aol.com>
	<00fa01cc7a50$c21b4080$4651c180$@rr.com>
	<8CE48D1C1F09483-1DE4-9BE0F@webmail-d172.sysops.aol.com>
	<018101cc7b0d$3eaabd30$bc003790$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4928205EF7A7-410-88162@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com>

Jim identifies the pistons as spitfire, if you are interested.

72mm






-----Original Message-----
From: James Henningsen <trguy at cfl.rr.com>
To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 24, 2011 5:56 pm
Subject: RE: Racing Parts



Joe: the pistons are AE +.030 Spitfire and not TR3 or TR4. The had a diameter
on the top of 72mm.
Jim Henningsen


From: n197tr4 at cs.com [mailto:n197tr4 at cs.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:05 AM


From pvucinic at netspace.net.au  Sat Sep 24 17:57:14 2011
From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 09:57:14 +1000
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4
In-Reply-To: <1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315782159.86740.YahooMailNeo@web46109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<189c01cc70da$bc0caaf0$0301a8c0@randall>
	<1316837882.66678.YahooMailNeo@web46113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACxbEgK3O79MiqnuYcYqj9HCgAAAEAAAAA5j7we3DFFPq0u+fVsDV+4BAAAAAA==@netspace.net.au>

Mike,
Use a piece of solder wire from a coil of solder. Works perfectly. Have used
it for years with no leaks.


Kind Regards
Peter Vucinic
TR-4
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-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Mehl
Sent: Saturday, 24 September 2011 2:18 PM
To: Randall; 'Triumph Friends of'
Subject: [Fot] Purolator oil relief valve leak 1962 TR4

I am still chasing the leak out of the oil pressure leak adjustment screw. 
After setting the oil pressure on my motor new for this season it has been
leaking all summer.  It looks to be part number 30123 washer.  No one seems
to
have them in their catalogs.   
 
Has anyone else had this type of leak?  Any
suggestions on how to fix/reduce the leak would be appriciated.
 
Thanks!! 
Mike Mehl
 

From: Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
To: 'Triumph Friends of'
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:30 PM
Subject: Re:
[Fot] Purolator oil pressure regulator seal moss # 520-170 (TR4)

>  The seal
I
> referenced shows N/A in the Moss catalog.  Does anyone have 
> any
thoughts on
> fixing this leak?

TRF shows P/N 500328 in stock.

-- Randall 
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From jason at multivintage.com  Sun Sep 25 09:12:40 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:12:40 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Runoff performance
Message-ID: <mailman.43.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

Sargis was on top in fp on friday, dominating flag to flag. Cris patrick 12th, and Griesinger 20th.

A hard charging FOT'er "Rocky" Entriken moved up many spots to finish 11th in HP.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


From kaskas at cox.net  Sun Sep 25 13:54:00 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:54:00 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race
Message-ID: <SNT120-W37E5109F7CDD108F356BE7DFF20@phx.gbl>

Who has entered for the Las Vegas VARA race in October?

Never be beaten by equipment Race


From jason at multivintage.com  Sun Sep 25 15:11:27 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:11:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] EP final results
Message-ID: <CALCydYp_fg+G1OEeqmHqtJHNNP46whFD=poR_uKE=7wPv3T6rg@mail.gmail.com>

Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by David
Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit halfway
over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the field
found their way into the kitty litter.
In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
fourth.
Way to go Sam!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From Gt6steve at aol.com  Sun Sep 25 15:42:14 2011
From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 17:42:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race
Message-ID: <3d762.2cb3cad.3bb0fa36@aol.com>

Funny you should ask, I was just thinking the same thing...
 
 
Me for one.
 
 
In a message dated 9/25/2011 2:35:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
kaskas at cox.net writes:

Who has  entered for the Las Vegas VARA race in October?

Never be beaten by  equipment  Race
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From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM  Mon Sep 26 07:18:55 2011
From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:18:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Opinions
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I have run them on my track day miata.  They are a 200 wear rating so not real
soft and overall wear is pretty good.  They are a very good tire in the rain!

John

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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:34 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Opinions

Amici-

Has anyone used Dunlop Direzzas on a race car?  If so, how'd they work & what
pressures were you running?  I'm running a '62 TR4.

Thanks in advance.

Fred Hodgson
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From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM  Mon Sep 26 07:19:25 2011
From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:19:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Opinions
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I am running around 25 lbs cold

John

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Subject: [Fot] Opinions

Amici-

Has anyone used Dunlop Direzzas on a race car?  If so, how'd they work & what
pressures were you running?  I'm running a '62 TR4.

Thanks in advance.

Fred Hodgson
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 26 08:58:56 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:58:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Brief Sebring RiffRAF Racing Report
Message-ID: <1317049136.42585.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Proud to say the FOT flag flew high (thanks, Chris!) over the 14 Hours of
ChumpCar at Sebring this weekend...on the other hand, RiffRAF did not have a
smooth trip.  Details below for those interested, pictures at
http://www.awolphoto.com/keyword/09242011-chumpcar-0#1498444314_CSPd5qw:
 
Race started out well once we finally got 4 tires on 4 useable wheels...thanks
Yarborough Tire in Sebring, they succeeded where others couldn't, although we
still couldn't mount Dunlops on Cal 500's. 

Ted Schumacher, Brian (Ted's
son), Jack McGahey, Joe Downer and I were drivers. Special thanks to Scott who
helped us fuel again as he did last year!

Special thanks to Kevin/Robert/Mr.
Andrews/Steven for helping to get the car ready even though they weren't
coming to the race.

We had pit position #1 again (beginning of pits) which
worked out nicely.

I started the race, I think the green flew with us in
about the middle of the 61 cars that started. Worked my way up to about 14th
and then ran out of gas with 15 mins left in stint. This made/makes no sense,
but I and someone else both checked the fuel level before the race, so we
could only assume the car actually used that much fuel. Changed driving stints
to 1-1/2 hours for rest of race and Lacey continued to use the same amount of
fuel, so it's either the track or something else in the car changed
(unlikely). There certainly was a lot of foot to the floor time in a Sebring
lap. 

Crash truck service left a lot to be desired. They asked me if my crew
was planning on bringing out gas to me... (!) They could learn a lot from Iowa
Speedway...

I will say that I enjoyed driving the track as much or more than
any track we've been to. It's not ideally suited to Lacey's lack of power but
it's REALLY fun to drive!!!!!

Jack got in the car and was doing great, then
spun close to the end of his stint. We're still not exactly sure what happened
but from this point on, the car would only fire on 5 cylinders. Turned Brian
loose in the car and kept bringing him in trying to diagnose the miss. Traced
to cylinder 3, replaced plug, wire, rotor, cap...no luck. Started to miss
more, pitted long time, found plug/piston contact. Not good. Pulled two
pushrods and kept going.

That's pretty much the story from there on out. Joe
showed us again that he's our ace by coming within 10 seconds of my best lap
on only 5 cylinders (!). 

Major lightning stopped the race for about 2 hours.
We ended up 29th (out of 61), passing a Volvo 740 in the final minutes to take
that spot.

No car-car contact for us for entire race, and LOTS of cars went
off track where we did not (Jack stayed on track during his spin, but car
stalled). More cars dropped out of this one on a percentage basis than any
other race we've been to (by my estimate only 50% of the cars entered were
running at the end, and it may have been fewer than that).  Winning car was a
'96 Nissan 300ZX...very, very quick!


From spitracer1296 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 26 09:27:57 2011
From: spitracer1296 at yahoo.com (chris crisenbery)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Looking for contact info. for Rick Parent
Message-ID: <1317050877.91242.YahooMailNeo@web113809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey Group,
 
I'm looking for contact info. for Rick Parent, the last e-mail
address I had bounced back to me.  He might even be a member of this group?
 
If possible please send me an e-mail or forward mine to him.
 
Thanks
 
Chris
Crisenbery
 
spitracer1296 at yahoo.com


From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Mon Sep 26 09:45:18 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR6 clutch
In-Reply-To: <3d762.2cb3cad.3bb0fa36@aol.com>
References: <3d762.2cb3cad.3bb0fa36@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1317051918.88270.YahooMailRC@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

All of a sudden, smelling the clutch and a struggle to get in gear.  Is there
any adjustment or is it clutch replace time?  What is a good TR6 clutch
replacement that can take some punishment?  Thanks, Jim


From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Sep 26 10:52:08 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:52:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] EP final results
Message-ID: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>

In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by 
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit 
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the 
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
> 
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"  
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race under 
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue 
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The 
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position because 
of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their 
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were unfortunate 
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with 
straightaway speed.  

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th 
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.  
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda 
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but 
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why 
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm 
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself comfortable with 
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from 
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this 
year.

Bill Dentinger


From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Sep 26 11:19:50 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:19:50 +0000
Subject: [Fot] EP final results
In-Reply-To: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>
References: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.44.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

Hand picked parts, yes. Legal no. 
Just heard from Sam, the Honda was thrown out for a bit too much compression. Moving him up to 3rd. 
The plot thickens. 
Jason, FGR
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin at aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:52:08 
To: <jason at multivintage.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results

In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by 
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit 
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the 
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
> 
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"  
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race under 
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue 
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The 
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position because 
of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their 
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were unfortunate 
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with 
straightaway speed.  

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th 
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.  
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda 
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but 
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why 
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm 
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself comfortable with 
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from 
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this 
year.

Bill Dentinger


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon Sep 26 12:31:34 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:31:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
 3rd.
In-Reply-To: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>
References: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4A91A76313AD-C38-A61C4@webmail-d045.sysops.aol.com>

 Sam went podium after Hobb's Sponsored Prelude was DQ'd    flagrant
infractions reported.

Accolades went to Rocky Entriken for his involvement in SCCA, by the
announcers.

Sargis   :   flag to flag   what more can you say.

THE FOT SHINES IN A VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT










-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: jason <jason at multivintage.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results


In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
>
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race under
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position
because

of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were unfortunate
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with
straightaway speed.

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself
comfortable
with
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this
year.

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Mon Sep 26 14:21:42 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:21:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
 3rd.
In-Reply-To: <8CE4A91A76313AD-C38-A61C4@webmail-d045.sysops.aol.com>
References: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>
	<8CE4A91A76313AD-C38-A61C4@webmail-d045.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <002a01cc7c89$e7a58550$b6f08ff0$@rr.com>

Well, in SCCA, it's only cheating if you get caught!
Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:32 PM
To: BillDentin at aol.com; jason at multivintage.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
3rd.

 Sam went podium after Hobb's Sponsored Prelude was DQ'd    flagrant
infractions reported.

Accolades went to Rocky Entriken for his involvement in SCCA, by the
announcers.

Sargis   :   flag to flag   what more can you say.

THE FOT SHINES IN A VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT










-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: jason <jason at multivintage.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results


In a message dated 09/25/2011 5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain. Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by
> David
> Hobbs no less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit
> halfway
> over the rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the
> field
> found their way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
>
I too watched the EP race on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"
Actually, all of the drivers that drove in a National Championship race
under
those conditions deserve kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue
getting sideways and off circuit coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The
announcers claim the corner worker had signaled Sam to hold his position
because

of oncoming traffic.  But who can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their
signal, or the heat of the moment took over, but the results were
unfortunate
for the then 5th placed car.  Sam's car is really impressive with
straightaway speed.

But I was also impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th
to 3rd in the race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.
Talk about a Swamp Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda
as his sponsor, did he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but
hand picked parts to build a very special engine).  But were that so, why
did he only qualify 26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm
convinced it's far more likely he's an ice racer that found himself
comfortable
with
those slippery conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from
26th to 3rd had to be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this
year.

Bill Dentinger
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From smockracer at charter.net  Mon Sep 26 18:17:28 2011
From: smockracer at charter.net (Paul Smock )
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:17:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race
References: <SNT120-W37E5109F7CDD108F356BE7DFF20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <12EAEDD7320F4715952240DEEF0DBD3B@fred>

I will be there. Paul #190 TR4A
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas at cox.net>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 12:54 PM
Subject: [Fot] Las Vegas race


> Who has entered for the Las Vegas VARA race in October?
>
> Never be beaten by equipment Race
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Sep 26 20:26:07 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:26:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Mallory distributor with Unilite electronic breakerless
 conversion
References: <83D36A77-95FE-4A6B-9257-071219AA58A1@REcatalyst.com>
Message-ID: <B2184CB6-C633-4C2F-944E-B16248CF2437@me.com>

I am in the process of installing one of these in my former 'dual point' Mallory distributor on my GT6.  The wiring diagram indicates a variable resistor should be installed in the ignition circuit, before the coil, of 0.7-2.0 ohms.  Mallory tech indicated that if the ignition coil itself has a resistance of 1.3-2.4 ohms, no supplemental resistor is needed.  they indicated that anything under 1.3 or over 2.4 was problematic.  At my last outing, chasing ignition problems, I tested two Bosch blue coils I had with someone else's multimeter and got a reading of 1.4 ohms, so I figured I  was all set.  Now, home in the garage, with my own multimeter, I am getting a reading of 3.4 ohms on the Bosch and 3.2 ohms on a brand new Lucas gold coil.  

So, is my meter inaccurate?  If anyone can check a coil and tell me what they find, that  would be great.  Second, is anyone using the Unilite set-up, and if so, what combination of coil and resistance are you using?

Thanks!


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 27 00:10:03 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:10:03 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Message-ID: <mailman.45.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

Dear FOT,

I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly and sometimes it lasts aons.

For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:

1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
2. Teeth with camfered edges

In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock gear wheel.

Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp edged cams too?

I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better protection. Any idea if that will work?

Cheers
Chris
Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone


From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 27 05:28:38 2011
From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:28:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went to well desrved
 3rd.
In-Reply-To: <002a01cc7c89$e7a58550$b6f08ff0$@rr.com>
References: <136c1.28da5a33.3bb207b8@aol.com>
	<8CE4A91A76313AD-C38-A61C4@webmail-d045.sysops.aol.com>
	<002a01cc7c89$e7a58550$b6f08ff0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <1317122918.92250.YahooMailNeo@web125708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Apparently he needed Kas to explain the rules to the Stewards.


From:
Spitfire Racing <Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com>
To: n197tr4 at cs.com;
BillDentin at aol.com; jason at multivintage.com; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday,
September 26, 2011 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd
Sam went to well desrved 3rd.

Well, in SCCA, it's only cheating if you get
caught!
Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Monday,
September 26, 2011 2:32 PM
To: BillDentin at aol.com; jason at multivintage.com;
fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results PRELUDE DQ'd Sam went
to well desrved
3rd.

Sam went podium after Hobb's Sponsored Prelude was DQ'd 
  flagrant
infractions reported.

Accolades went to Rocky Entriken for his
involvement in SCCA, by the
announcers.

Sargis  :  flag to flag  what more
can you say.

THE FOT SHINES IN A VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT
-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: jason
<jason at multivintage.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011
1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EP final results


In a message dated 09/25/2011
5:46:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> Sam
Halkias finished just off the podium in a hard fought race in
> heavy rain.
Third for a while, but a hard charging Honda (Sponsored by
> David
> Hobbs no
less) took him off the podium. Sam was trying hard to keep him
> behind and
got wiggly in turn one and ended up sideways at the exit
> halfway
> over the
rumble strips facing corner station 2. He managed to get going
> again rather
quickly but almost got T-boned by the 5th place car who ended
> up in the tire
wall. Visibility appeared to be awful, and much of the
> field
> found their
way into the kitty litter.
> In a field of some pretty tough competition he
finished a respectable
> fourth.
> Way to go Sam!
>
I too watched the EP race
on line yesterday, and agree, "Way to go Sam!"
Actually, all of the drivers
that drove in a National Championship race
under
those conditions deserve
kudos and free clean underwear.  Sam's issue
getting sideways and off circuit
coming out of Turn 1 was unfortunate.  The
announcers claim the corner worker
had signaled Sam to hold his position
because

of oncoming traffic.  But who
can fault him.  Perhaps he did not see their
signal, or the heat of the moment
took over, but the results were
unfortunate
for the then 5th placed car. 
Sam's car is really impressive with
straightaway speed.

But I was also
impressed with that Honda Prelude driver who went from 26th
to 3rd in the
race.  Given a few more laps, I don't think he was through.
Talk about a Swamp
Fox.  My first impression was that with David Hobbs Honda
as his sponsor, did
he have some help from the manufacturer (i.e. legal, but
hand picked parts to
build a very special engine).  But were that so, why
did he only qualify
26th?  The guy's from northern Minnesota, so I'm
convinced it's far more
likely he's an ice racer that found himself
comfortable
with
those slippery
conditions at Road America yesterday.  Surely that run from
26th to 3rd had to
be one of THE highlights at the National Run Offs this
year.

Bill Dentinger
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fot at autox.team.net
http://www.fot-racing.com

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From mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 27 08:41:20 2011
From: mrcpt1fc at sbcglobal.net (mrcpt1@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate
Message-ID: <1317134480.72951.YahooMailRC@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello , does anyone have a TR-4 deck-plate in the Chicago area ? 

Thanks Mike
.


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 27 09:53:34 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:53:34 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <20110918203241.091471879B6@autox.team.net>
References: <20110918203241.091471879B6@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <001401cc7d2d$9f4f33b0$dded9b10$@com>

Another video of the event. There will be a DVD with a lot more coverage:

http://www.racingtv.de/2009/Automobil/Magazin_2011/Triumph_Eifelrennen/c_716

Cheers
Chris


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Tue Sep 27 10:11:54 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:11:54 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate
In-Reply-To: <1317134480.72951.YahooMailRC@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1317134480.72951.YahooMailRC@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F0311FE@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

I have two and I'd like to sell one. If someone in the Chicago area would like
to be the custodian please contact me.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of mrcpt1 at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:41 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate

Hello , does anyone have a TR-4 deck-plate in the Chicago area ?

Thanks Mike
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Sep 27 11:40:55 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:40:55 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Deck Plate
Message-ID: <mailman.46.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

I regularly receive UPS and fedex packages at my antique store in Brookfield, 10 miles west of Chicago. Happy to accept a Triumph part free of charge for FOT.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
Wonderland Multivintage
3731 Grand blvd
Brookfield IL 60513 
(708)387-0890
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Sent: Sep 27, 2011 11:11 AM

I have two and I'd like to sell one. If someone in the Chicago area would like
to be the custodian please contact me.

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Hello , does anyone have a TR-4 deck-plate in the Chicago area ?

Thanks Mike
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Tue Sep 27 11:47:04 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:47:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Mallory Unilite set-up on TR4
Message-ID: <1926EB44-87E4-4685-AD64-D8E88D59F962@aol.com>

Scott,

I went with all Mallory when I converted my Dual Point to Unilite:  
Promaster Coil MAL-30440, Ballast resistor MAL-700, Pro SIdewinder 8mm  
Wire Set. I had purchased a Hyfire Ign control, too, but found it not  
necessary at my revs (below 6500). It's been trouble free for 6 years!  
Changed out to replacement coil last year only because original got  
loose in the mounting bracket and I wondered about vibration effects.  
The guy at Century Performance, Reno, Nevada seemed very knowledgeable.

John Frymark


From capecoventryracing at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 13:04:21 2011
From: capecoventryracing at gmail.com (John Nikas)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:04:21 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Article
Message-ID: <CACWViu_srJL-EGRF++1aYa1qe=FmYHhvUGvVMYneniUJuZp=XA@mail.gmail.com>

Everyone. The news article on this year's Kastner Cup race appears in the
November issue of Vintage Racecar which should be on the news stands in 2
weeks. It's well written and gives proper credit to 2011 winner Jerry Barker
for punching above his weight to secure the win. By the way, if anyone wants
to do a write up of the Euro Cup I can ask Casey to put it in the next
issue. Also, if you have not received a shirt that was paid for (except for
Barry Munson which was just sent) please let me know off list.

-- 
Very truly yours,

John Nikas
Cape Coventry Racing
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Tue Sep 27 13:34:38 2011
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04 at tr4racer.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:34:38 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
References: <20110927071958.AF091187870@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <36E91246C71942A09FD163F8EA681835@TRIUMPH.local>

Are you talking about OEM reground cams or new chilled iron cams?

I have never seen the issue on an OEM cam, but I have seen it countless 
times on new cams. Cutting that gear is pretty tricky, I suppose.

My solution is only run regrinds.

As far as your question about nitriding, if the cam gear is not cut right, 
hardening will just waste more money.

Henry
yellow04 at tr4racer.com
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:10 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure


> Dear FOT,
>
> I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly 
> and sometimes it lasts aons.
>
> For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:
>
> 1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
> 2. Teeth with camfered edges
>
> In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock 
> gear wheel.
>
> Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp 
> edged cams too?
>
> I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better 
> protection. Any idea if that will work?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 27 14:32:08 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:32:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Message-ID: <mailman.47.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

That was my impress that the stock items do work properly.
Why it is so difficult to make this gear? Is there a mistake value in the blue prints?
A reground cam never can do the same profile as a new blank.
Maybe it is time to find out more about this issue and solve it.

------Originalnachricht------
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An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
An: fot
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Gesendet: 27. Sep. 2011 21:34

Are you talking about OEM reground cams or new chilled iron cams?

I have never seen the issue on an OEM cam, but I have seen it countless 
times on new cams. Cutting that gear is pretty tricky, I suppose.

My solution is only run regrinds.

As far as your question about nitriding, if the cam gear is not cut right, 
hardening will just waste more money.

Henry
yellow04 at tr4racer.com
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:10 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure


> Dear FOT,
>
> I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly 
> and sometimes it lasts aons.
>
> For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:
>
> 1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
> 2. Teeth with camfered edges
>
> In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock 
> gear wheel.
>
> Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp 
> edged cams too?
>
> I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better 
> protection. Any idea if that will work?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From atr6racer at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 27 14:47:27 2011
From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:47:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup/laguna
Message-ID: <SNT136-W36F36B5625440859FF26F1F9F00@phx.gbl>

One of the shows I DVR is "The Car Show" with Adam Corolla. (Probably because
I miss "The Man show" with "Girls jumping on trampolines") The September 21
episode featured his run in his  Bob Sharp Datsun 610 on the same weekend we
held the Kastner Cup event. Some of the footage captured our FOT'ers with a
quick shot of TR row with Mordy's TR4, a shot of the TR250K coming back in the
paddock and being called " the strangest looking car I've ever seen" by a
host, and the final shot was Hardy's TR3 which the Host's loudly declared it
"a real man's car!" They replay those episodes constantly so try and catch it
it you can.

Sam Halkias


From jaboruch at netzero.net  Wed Sep 28 20:00:43 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:00:43 GMT
Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Message-ID: <20110928.220043.12718.0@webmail59.dca.untd.com>

You can do what I did - ditch the distributor and oil pump, and then run a dry
sump pump and crank fired ignition.  I think, however, that vintage race
organizations would frown on that.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
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Subject: [Fot] TR 3 / 4 Distributor gear failure
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:10:03 +0000

Dear FOT,

I'm on search about information why this gear somtimes wear out quickly and
sometimes it lasts aons.

For my part I do see two different types of cam gears:

1. Teeth with sharp edges ( like stock cams)
2. Teeth with camfered edges

In my case only the cams with camfered edges seems to wear out the stock gear
wheel.

Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just bad luck and it happens to sharp edged
cams too?

I would like to plasma nitride hardening the stock wheel to get a better
protection. Any idea if that will work?

Cheers
Chris
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep 29 08:38:56 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:38:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS AND THE FOT
Message-ID: <8CE4CCC9EA2AAF4-E7C-4739@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>

CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS:

Gary Horstkorta provided a nice shot and report on the FOT at work while at
LAGUNA SECA.

KAS' new book, was nicely reviewed in the magazine as well.

There was mention of the FOT at the Mitty forthcoming in the spring, and that
Kas is the Grand Marshall of the event.

Always nice to be recognized for what we do.

Thanks CMS.


From jhd11 at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 29 09:07:57 2011
From: jhd11 at hotmail.com (Joe Henry)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:07:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] '12 Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <COL118-W24EBD8EE7830C1EEBA1631A9F60@phx.gbl>

FOT'ers,
     Who is the Chairman of the '12 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta and contact
information Please.  Thanks in advance.

Joe Downer
Charlotte, N.C.


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep 29 10:59:50 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:59:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] '12 Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W24EBD8EE7830C1EEBA1631A9F60@phx.gbl>
References: <COL118-W24EBD8EE7830C1EEBA1631A9F60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE4CE055F24C6A-E7C-6E74@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>

 Joe Henry....you ask a very timely question

CHAIRMEN.......FOR PLANNING AND COMMUNICATION PURPOSES

HENRY FRYE:   FOR THE FOT

ANDY REID:  FOR CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS


Both Henry Frye and Andy Reid indicate that information is forthcoming,
shortly.

Joe Alexander








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Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 11:38 am
Subject: [Fot] '12 Kastner Cup


FOT'ers,
     Who is the Chairman of the '12 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta and contact
information Please.  Thanks in advance.

Joe Downer
Charlotte, N.C.
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Sep 29 11:58:45 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:58:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] [CWE] TR4 rear oil seal
In-Reply-To: <3C5498685AED0E49BC7904C3D3F21BAD029E091F2E@CP-EMBX01.pbsj.com>
References: <6D5D54F4-C240-45D0-AE37-163391C0D3ED@verizon.net><8CE4CD2FBB8BCB5-E7C-52A5@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
	<3C5498685AED0E49BC7904C3D3F21BAD029E091F2E@CP-EMBX01.pbsj.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4CE890FF5E16-E7C-837C@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>

 the important thing is that crank retains the oem diameter at the scroll
area.

that is what the seal is sized to.

the scroll seal housing is modified from the oem parts to accept Chris' seal
design.

i am facilitating distribution in the US by providing the centering tool with
corrected dimensions and the modified scroll, which is done on an exchange
basis.

i am looking at producing the seal housing here in iowa because the exchange
program is cumbersome and inventory on those lag.





-----Original Message-----
From: Blake, Gregory S <greg.blake at atkinsglobal.com>
To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 12:19 pm
Subject: RE:  TR4 rear oil seal



Joe,

Remind me but does this new seal require that the scrolls remain?  I am having
a couple cranks made by Marine Crankshaft and want to use the latest on seal
technology.  I have not been too happy with the Moss kit in the past.

Thanks,

Greg


From: cwe-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:cwe-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Tr3a58 at verizon.net; cwe at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [CWE] TR4 rear oil seal



I have had no negative experiences or feedback, so far.

One guy had flywheel bolts too long and it tore the seal up and it was
replaced.

Jim Gray just ordered a replacement but he hasnt told me why he needs it.

As long as installation is as good as the OEM installation should be, the
superior VITON seal should be the final word in oil control, especially in a
newly built engine.

I have a couple kits on the shelf and hopefully 10 more seals coming from
CHRIS.

Demand is climbing as winter approaches.

Joe Alexander





-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Tetterton <Tr3a58 at verizon.net>
To: cwe <cwe at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 9:58 am
Subject: [CWE] TR4 rear oil seal

I was wondering if any in the group had experience with the new style rubber
oil
seal. I am
building a street motor and am thinking about trying it. Anyone put one in
that
has put any
major miles on it yet. If so how is it working and how many miles do you think
you have on it.

 I like the idea but am curious if it stays in place. I suppose it stays in as
well as any other
pressed in seal.

Dean


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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Sep 29 21:25:05 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:25:05 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Message-ID: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

mjb.


From jason at multivintage.com  Thu Sep 29 23:18:42 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:18:42 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Message-ID: <mailman.48.1638252565.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

Then there is the other side of the coin. That maybe your lead-footed experience as a race car driver is what got you airborne...and flying like an airplane.
 Glad your OK.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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Sent: Sep 29, 2011 10:25 PM

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Sep 30 00:48:11 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:48:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
In-Reply-To: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
References: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <20110930064839.B4787187876@autox.team.net>

Dang!  Glad you're OK!

Tony

At 10:25 PM 9/29/2011, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123
>
>mjb.


From rjl6n at cstone.net  Fri Sep 30 05:20:23 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:20:23 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
In-Reply-To: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
References: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <82444d0f891d57d2b6e87ce3b06cfd70.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

	Wow, glad to hear that you made it through OK.


	 


	John


	 


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From jsclark at live.ca  Fri Sep 30 10:57:05 2011
From: jsclark at live.ca (Jeff Clark)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:57:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
In-Reply-To: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
References: <4E853691.9060207@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <BLU158-W469020107D3B132E1D1500AEF70@phx.gbl>

I strongly agree with the statement you make about experience behind the wheel
of a race car. I have had my licence for two years now and only have 5 races
to my credit and remember when I took my race school making a comment to my
instructor that everyone on the road should have this kind of training even if
they never get behind the wheel of a race car. I saw an episode of Top Gear
once that did a piece on new drivers in Switzerland( I think) It takes three
months to get a drivers licence after a training coarse including time spent
on a skid pad
Jeff Clark
'71 Triumph GT6


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From markvaden at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 11:54:34 2011
From: markvaden at gmail.com (Mark Vaden)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:54:34 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
Message-ID: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety issue
to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the
IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend new
axles as well?

Thank in advance,
Mark


From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Sep 30 12:59:46 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:59:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
Message-ID: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Sep 30 13:54:57 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:54:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
In-Reply-To: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <639D962395858A4A9115928BC4BE031F0346C7@RDOEX2K10-MB.rdoe.com>

I put these on my car and after making room for them in my trailing arms and
finding suitable hex drive cap screws for the axle mounting I've had many
years or trouble free racing.

http://www.cambridgemotorsport.com/TR6-TR56-Transmission

I think Richard Good sells something very similar now and they are more
affordable.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Vaden
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 12:55 PM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles

Hi All,

I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering about
axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety issue to have
the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the IRS cars,
is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend new axles as
well?

Thank in advance,
Mark
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Fri Sep 30 14:36:40 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:36:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
References: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16741771F6444D589F265D7E56253EBE@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi Gang, I've only been playing with Triumphs for 6 years or so, but I've 
read a lot and talked to a lot of folks during that time. Including reading 
Kas' books.
"In the day" by what I recall, Kas replaced the hubs every 2 or 3 races. I 
don't know how often the axles were replaced. Kas?
I know that the hubs are very suspect; they broke a lot. Not sure about the 
axles.
I went with Richard's hubs a while back. I still use stock axles, with the 
uprated U-joints, and have had no problems. And am making much more power 
now. Just make sure the splines are good and keep them greased.
New hubs are a must; how much cash you have to spend may influence the axle 
purchase!
Good luck,
Bill Tobin TR6 (knocked another 10 seconds off my lap times at the Glen 3 
weeks ago!)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Vaden" <markvaden at gmail.com>
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:54 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles


> Hi All,
>
> I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
> about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety 
> issue
> to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the
> IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend 
> new
> axles as well?
>
> Thank in advance,
> Mark
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Sep 30 15:05:59 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:05:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4DCBE34DCD5B-3178-23B21@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>

 Indeed, Glade is one of us...a real character.  I lost track of him.

Nice going Jason.....geterdun.





-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
To: triumph friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership


Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
_______________________________________________
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Fri Sep 30 15:09:00 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:09:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001301cc7fb5$2ce07f20$86a17d60$@rogers.com>

I'll second that, welcome Glade

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: September 30, 2011 3:00 PM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s Production
class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4 decades. His
Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Fri Sep 30 15:12:58 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1109301712300.14151@isis.mit.edu>

SECOND!!

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From vintage.racer at comcast.net  Fri Sep 30 15:17:18 2011
From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 21:17:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Seat Covers
Message-ID: <1025202927.29479.1317417438185.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

FOT: 

When I acquired my 1969 TR6 a few years ago the interior had been replaced including the seat covers. Very nice except, the seat covers are not perforated thereby not allowing air to circulate. As a result, my back can get sweaty on longer drivers. Has anyone found a good. ventilated seat cover (mesh, bamboo slats, etc) that lays on top of the seat? My seats have the attached head rests. Thanks. 

Gary 


From jerrybarr at charter.net  Fri Sep 30 15:29:10 2011
From: jerrybarr at charter.net (Jerry Barr)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:29:10 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79522538-21BA-4017-95A4-FE5648874E76@charter.net>

Glade Snodgrass!!?? Are you kidding me? You betcha, he will be a great
addition to our group. Second
On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:

> Greetings Friends,
> An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
> slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
> He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
> For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.
>
> I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
> exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
> of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
> He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
> time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.
>
> I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
> I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
> playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.
>
> So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
> He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
> Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
> decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
> A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced
many
> defeats in these cars.
> I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
> tight budget.
> In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
> Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
> He would be a good addition to our group.
>
> His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
> 4everglades at comcast.net
>
> Thank You,
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
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>
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From Catpusher at aol.com  Fri Sep 30 15:42:16 2011
From: Catpusher at aol.com (Catpusher at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:42:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Subject:Re:  Close call!
Message-ID: <40652.622ea4e8.3bb791b8@aol.com>

Mark,
 
We are relieved that you had a safe landing; nasty just reading about  it.
I was always better at takeoffs than landings with "The Device".
 
TR Regards,
 
Hardy
 
 
In a message dated 9/30/2011 12:40:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
fot-request at autox.team.net writes:

From:  Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
To: FoT Triumph  <fot at autox.team.net>,  British Motor Club
<bmcu at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Close call!
Message-ID:  <4E853691.9060207 at bradakis.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=ISO-8859-1;  format=flowed

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123

mjb.


From riverside at southslope.net  Fri Sep 30 15:48:11 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:48:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31B7DEFA87DE41D7AE021CF8BDBE4264@rileyPC>

nomination seconded!

art de armond

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:59 PM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed" group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in 4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

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From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Sep 30 16:06:20 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:06:20 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4A IRS rear axles
Message-ID: <2EC94EED-A6D9-4B4A-9EAE-32FFAE1C59DF@aol.com>

Mark,

Not sure I know what you mean by "new hubs". The issue with the IRS  
hub is that the stub axle can't stand up to the stresses we put on  
them racing. When it fails, the wheel departs. Has happened to me and  
many others. A newly rebuilt TR hub doesn't solve the design problem.  
Several of us have adapted 240Z stub axles to the TR hub carrier.  
Richard Good sells a redesigned hub. The sliding axles aren't the  
weakest link, but Goodparts has an uprated axle design, too.

I wouldn't race (again) on the OEM hub. As others have said, it's not  
a matter of IF, just WHEN.

John Frymark


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Sep 30 16:09:22 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:09:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership
In-Reply-To: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCydYoszffKzng9vwZ8W3mJVJgm=DqTCWFKh97S0kjJ2X1AYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402684667@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Second!  I've been trying to get Glade to join the FOT for years.  I
wonder why he thought it was so mysterious??

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:00 PM
To: triumph friends
Subject: [Fot] Nomination for membership

Greetings Friends,
An "old school" Triumph guy from Midwestern Council approached me with a
slew of questions about how one becomes a member of our "esteemed"
group.
He had tried to get on certain parts of the web site with no luck.
For some time he has wondered about how to be a part of FOT.

I teased him last week and had him going for a while..."Oh, its very
exclusive, I'm not sure your qualified.., There's paperwork, a long
process
of initiation, evaluation, etc"...
He said he had heard that from some other guys a while back and for a
long
time just assumed it would remain a mysterious desire.

I chuckled and told him "I'd see what I could do"... which is funny
because
I remember watching him race when I was just a dirty kid at the track
playing with matchbox cars in the dirt.

So, I would like to nominate Glade Snodgrass to be part of our group.
He has been racing Triumphs consistently since the mid-1970s
Production class championships back in the day, many, many race wins in
4
decades. His Triumph resume is a mile long.
A genuine character that has overcome many hurdles and also experienced
many
defeats in these cars.
I like and admire Glade for his ability to make his cars go very fast on
a
tight budget.
In a racing world of often extreme spending, It is easy to envy the
excess.
Glades approach is also worthy of envy and somewhat refreshing.
He would be a good addition to our group.

His contact...Glade Snodgrass:
4everglades at comcast.net

Thank You,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

http://www.fot-racing.com

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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Fri Sep 30 17:04:40 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:04:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
In-Reply-To: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1794830870.208885.1317423880791.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I don't think there is anything wrong with the stock axles. Some have said you
can get spline lock

but it's never happened to me. I kept them well greased. Maybe more of a
problem with the TR6.

The hubs for sure should be replaced.

It's a single point failure that could destroy the car. Ask Tony about
throwing a rear wheel at speed.

I was more worried about trapping one in the wheel well.B 

I went for the whole hub & CV conversion which is pure artwork and an easy
installation.



jim g





----- Original Message -----


From: "Mark Vaden" <markvaden at gmail.com>
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:54:34 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles

Hi All,

I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety issue
to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On the
IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend new
axles as well?

Thank in advance,
Mark
_______________________________________________
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From kaskas at cox.net  Fri Sep 30 17:15:38 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:15:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
In-Reply-To: <16741771F6444D589F265D7E56253EBE@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <CAExoegkzyrgq6V0LVBrFEPMmzZb09ZesFuBkfOqq2JJ0_5gi5Q@mail.gmail.com>,
	<16741771F6444D589F265D7E56253EBE@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W40332C555F1D5A0BA65AC7DFF70@phx.gbl>

Interesting your comment about the replacment parts.  It was not hubs that I
replaced every 3 races, but the axles.  It was the axles that we broke. But
knowing what I know and most racers know NOW, replace both. Same with the
front hubs. I remember trying to get the SCCA to agree to allow the aluminum
hubs on the front , but they would not go for the "saftey" part of the
regulations. Just for once it was straight with no hidden agendas. Oh well.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net
> To: markvaden at gmail.com; fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:36:40 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
>
> Hi Gang, I've only been playing with Triumphs for 6 years or so, but I've
> read a lot and talked to a lot of folks during that time. Including reading
> Kas' books.
> "In the day" by what I recall, Kas replaced the hubs every 2 or 3 races. I
> don't know how often the axles were replaced. Kas?
> I know that the hubs are very suspect; they broke a lot. Not sure about the
> axles.
> I went with Richard's hubs a while back. I still use stock axles, with the
> uprated U-joints, and have had no problems. And am making much more power
> now. Just make sure the splines are good and keep them greased.
> New hubs are a must; how much cash you have to spend may influence the axle
> purchase!
> Good luck,
> Bill Tobin TR6 (knocked another 10 seconds off my lap times at the Glen 3
> weeks ago!)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Vaden" <markvaden at gmail.com>
> To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:54 PM
> Subject: [Fot] TR4 IRS rear axles
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am making some progress on my "new" TR4A race car, and I was wondering
> > about axels and hubs. On my TR4 solid axle it was an important safety
> > issue
> > to have the axles uprated (southwick conversion). As far as safety, On
the
> > IRS cars, is it enough to just get new hubs, or does the list recommend
> > new
> > axles as well?
> >
> > Thank in advance,
> > Mark
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