[Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in

william r tobin william.tobin31 at verizon.net
Mon Nov 14 12:51:57 MST 2011


Hi, be sure and stagger the end gaps on the other solid oil control rings 
also. The ones on top and bottom of the expander.
Plus stagger the top 2 rings.
Good luck, Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in


>I know you have all been on the edge of your seats wondering if I was ever
> going to figure out what was wrong with my engine and here's the latest
> theory.  First, I thought it was the guides, because they were not 
> replaced.
> I bought new guides and took them to the machine shop and confronted them.
> They disassembled the head and proved to me the guides were good and in 
> the
> process I learned how the guides are measured and that I should trust my
> machinist more.  So I went home and took out the pistons and returned to 
> the
> machine shop where he then showed me that the ends of the "oil control 
> ring
> expander" should not be overlapped one notch, but rather butt together so 
> the
> oil control rings can function properly.
>
> So now all I have to do is go home and reassemble everything and see if it
> works.  Probably will.
>
> Hopefully someone else will learn from my mistake, and I'm glad I didn't 
> break
> down and give my engine the big Bon Ami douche treatment.
>
> Cheers Henry Morrison Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
>>
>> Was the block bored, or honed and checked for taper? If the rings didn't
> seat it may be too late. Look for the cause of the rings not seating or it
> will happen again. Bores freshened up with brush hones often have too much
> taper and allow blow by. On racing engines I use WD40 to lube the
> rings/pistons for install. I wipe oil on the bores and make sure I have 
> oil
> pressure before starting. I want the rings to seat right away.
>>
>> Bob Kramer
>> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
>> RDO Equipment Company
>> 16415 N. IH 35 Pflugerville, TX 78660
>> 512-687-7422 Office
>> 512-657-8526 Cell
>>
>>
>> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
>> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>> Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil consumption issue during break in
>>
>> Well, yeah, I did measure the end gaps on the rings. All were within the
>> specifications. The compression numbers when I checked them after 100 or 
>> so
> miles were low (90 lbs at 7000 ft.) but even. The rings came on the 
> pistons
> and were black in color, looked like they had been plated black.
>>
>> I don't think that I broke any of the rings on installation.
>>
>> The machine shop told me the guides were OK when I probed them as to why
> they didn't ask to replace them additionally they said if they were shot, 
> the
> car would still not use that much oil.
>>
>> I may strike out at the engine physically and violently if I have to
> re-rebuild it.
>>
>> Cheers Henry Morrison
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