From rikrock at live.com  Sun Jan  2 06:41:20 2011
From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:41:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
Message-ID: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>

>From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, Sebring and
others.   www.barcboys.com

Rich Rock

From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Jan  2 11:14:44 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:14:44 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <EAA1A8E1A9E34B8384AA4697C89EC478@Bud>

great website Rich..thanks very much!
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Rock" <rikrock at live.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 5:41 AM
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's


> >From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, 
> >Sebring and
> others.   www.barcboys.com
>
> Rich Rock
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From jason at multivintage.com  Sun Jan  2 14:52:43 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:52:43 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
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I had seen this site before but there is really some depth here. I got lost
in the Sebring section. Man 1963 Sebring must have been a dream day for our
Racing Triumph Fathers. All those TRs going the distance and ahead of so
many great drivers and cars. Keith and John sure are lucky to hold all that
history in the grip of their leather cover hands. Do any of the other cars
survive like the super powered TR3, or the other TR4's?

Also check out the cool photo of the spitfire coupes as a backdrop to
shuffleboard games in the 1965 Sebring Section.

Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com> wrote:

> >From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, Sebring
> and
> others.   www.barcboys.com
>
> Rich Rock
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From mlcooknj at msn.com  Sun Jan  2 20:58:48 2011
From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:58:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w366E33556B488F4D16ED06C8070@phx.gbl>

Looking at the 1965 Sebring pix, I see the caption about Peter Bolton crashing
after five laps. Correctly, it should say: "Peter Bolton did five quick laps
in the Spitfire before being hit from behind by one of the faster cars which
caused him to crash heavily. Fortunately, Peter was not seriously injured."

Memory won't tell me what the car was that hit the Spitfire. Kas may
remember.

In 1963, one of the TR4s was hit from behind by a Cobra, bending the exhaust
pipe which eventually burned through. The hole was below the tunnel and the
hot exhaust burned a hole through the fiber which would catch fire going down
the straight so the drivers had a small fire extinguisher with them to give
the fire a squirt as they braked. Between exhaust fumes, smoke and carbon tet
from the extinguisher it's luck they could concentrate on driving.

In the top row of pictures of Bridgehampton, 1961, page 2, there's a shot of
Fred Gamble in a Maserati, leading Hansgen and Holbert. As a Triumph employee
later that year, Fred participated with me in the first talks with Bob
Tullius. Fred later worked with Kas Kastner to develop the Triumph Racing
Support Program, the first driver support plan by a major manufacturer for
SCCA racing.

Mike Cook

> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:52:43 -0600
> From: jason at multivintage.com
> To: rikrock at live.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
>
> I had seen this site before but there is really some depth here. I got lost
> in the Sebring section. Man 1963 Sebring must have been a dream day for our
> Racing Triumph Fathers. All those TRs going the distance and ahead of so
> many great drivers and cars. Keith and John sure are lucky to hold all that
> history in the grip of their leather cover hands. Do any of the other cars
> survive like the super powered TR3, or the other TR4's?
>
> Also check out the cool photo of the spitfire coupes as a backdrop to
> shuffleboard games in the 1965 Sebring Section.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com> wrote:
>
> > >From tracks in the east. The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro,
Sebring
> > and
> > others. www.barcboys.com
> >
> > Rich Rock
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From mediehljr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  3 04:43:42 2011
From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 03:43:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w366E33556B488F4D16ED06C8070@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY147-w366E33556B488F4D16ED06C8070@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <404543.63909.qm@web39301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Happy New Year, Mike. One small comment:   The "small fire extinguisher" was the 
drink water bottle. Luckily we never got too thirsty.  Cheers, Ed.
 
Ed Diehl



----- Original Message ----
From: michael cook <mlcooknj at msn.com>
To: jason at multivintage.com; rikrock at live.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 10:58:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's

Looking at the 1965 Sebring pix, I see the caption about Peter Bolton crashing
after five laps. Correctly, it should say: "Peter Bolton did five quick laps
in the Spitfire before being hit from behind by one of the faster cars which
caused him to crash heavily. Fortunately, Peter was not seriously injured."

Memory won't tell me what the car was that hit the Spitfire. Kas may
remember.

In 1963, one of the TR4s was hit from behind by a Cobra, bending the exhaust
pipe which eventually burned through. The hole was below the tunnel and the
hot exhaust burned a hole through the fiber which would catch fire going down
the straight so the drivers had a small fire extinguisher with them to give
the fire a squirt as they braked. Between exhaust fumes, smoke and carbon tet
from the extinguisher it's luck they could concentrate on driving.

In the top row of pictures of Bridgehampton, 1961, page 2, there's a shot of
Fred Gamble in a Maserati, leading Hansgen and Holbert. As a Triumph employee
later that year, Fred participated with me in the first talks with Bob
Tullius. Fred later worked with Kas Kastner to develop the Triumph Racing
Support Program, the first driver support plan by a major manufacturer for
SCCA racing.

Mike Cook

> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:52:43 -0600
> From: jason at multivintage.com
> To: rikrock at live.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
>
> I had seen this site before but there is really some depth here. I got lost
> in the Sebring section. Man 1963 Sebring must have been a dream day for our
> Racing Triumph Fathers. All those TRs going the distance and ahead of so
> many great drivers and cars. Keith and John sure are lucky to hold all that
> history in the grip of their leather cover hands. Do any of the other cars
> survive like the super powered TR3, or the other TR4's?
>
> Also check out the cool photo of the spitfire coupes as a backdrop to
> shuffleboard games in the 1965 Sebring Section.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com> wrote:
>
> > >From tracks in the east. The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro,
Sebring
> > and
> > others. www.barcboys.com
> >
> > Rich Rock
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> >
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Mon Jan  3 10:45:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:45:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Patches
Message-ID: <C39CC51E-90CE-4BFC-A83A-9A70FA8B5ABD@aol.com>

Amici
Please forgive me but there was a member who asked for patches with the car
badge design.  Please contact me off list.

Thanks

From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Jan  3 12:22:42 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:22:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <008101cbab7b$992818a0$cb7849e0$@net>

Rich it does bring back memories. I was at the Glen, Lime Rock, Marlboro and
Sebring all thru the 60s

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Rich Rock
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 8:41 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's

>From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, Sebring
and
others.   www.barcboys.com

Rich Rock
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From deweerdm at rogers.com  Mon Jan  3 15:36:43 2011
From: deweerdm at rogers.com (MIKE DEWEERD)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:36:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
Message-ID: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to go
faster next year. 
Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada

From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Jan  3 16:07:48 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:07:48 -0600
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Yes, Another GT6! I will second this nomination.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD <deweerdm at rogers.com> wrote:

>  I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
> go
> faster next year.
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From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Jan  3 16:09:22 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:09:22 -0800
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
References: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C20C29BEBA8547758D98FB0A1B8582CB@Bud>

I second the nomination of Jeff Clark.
Racer Bud...Spitfire #21...Sonoma, Ca.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MIKE DEWEERD" <deweerdm at rogers.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 2:36 PM
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark


> I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking 
> to go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon Jan  3 16:10:57 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:10:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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 absolutely!








-----Original Message-----
From: MIKE DEWEERD <deweerdm at rogers.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:36 pm
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark


 I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just

started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with

Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
go

faster next year.

Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Jan  3 16:24:07 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:24:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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I"ll second that one...need more Triumph racers from Ottawa.

Welcome Jeff

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MIKE DEWEERD
Sent: January 3, 2011 5:37 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark

 I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
go faster next year. 
Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From andre at gt6.ca  Mon Jan  3 18:26:00 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:26:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <831467.9282.qm@smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Great guy.

Strong racer.

A.

On 3 January 2011 18:24, macdonaldp <macdonaldp at rogers.com> wrote:
> I"ll second that one...need more Triumph racers from Ottawa.
>
> Welcome Jeff
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MIKE DEWEERD
> Sent: January 3, 2011 5:37 PM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
>
>  I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
> go faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan  3 18:28:58 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 20:28:58 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we keeping with the  
custom of having the new guy tell us something about himself and his  
car?

On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:

I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school  
with
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's  
looking to go
faster next year.
Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From andre at gt6.ca  Mon Jan  3 18:47:27 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:47:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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http://andrerousseau.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/20100926__2036.jpg

There they are.

I tried to climb into the car and left Jeff and Andrew in stitches.

Its sounds so nice.

A.

On 3 January 2011 20:28, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we keeping with the
> custom of having the new guy tell us something about himself and his
> car?
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:
>
> I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school
> with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's
> looking to go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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'68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/
#515 FIAT 124 Spider  - http://www.124racer.com/
Ottawa, ON, Canada

From igofaster at att.net  Tue Jan  4 08:09:01 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 07:09:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik-QcNhQNdFRBGNyEOtXmUGwA5tT7mXQKv=7nG2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<6E305128-3C81-45B4-9C3C-4BE63171B6AB@me.com>
	<AANLkTik-QcNhQNdFRBGNyEOtXmUGwA5tT7mXQKv=7nG2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <292550.18243.qm@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

another GT6... oh boy! nicely prepared too...

seems Kas' and his new book are bringing the step child of Triumphs out in the 
open... well.... except for Heralds....

Bobby Whitehead




________________________________
From: Andre Rousseau <andre at gt6.ca>
To: Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 7:47:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark

http://andrerousseau.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/20100926__2036.jpg

There they are.

I tried to climb into the car and left Jeff and Andrew in stitches.

Its sounds so nice.

A.

On 3 January 2011 20:28, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we keeping with the
> custom of having the new guy tell us something about himself and his
> car?
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:
>
> I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school
> with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's
> looking to go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  4 08:44:26 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 07:44:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <292550.18243.qm@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<6E305128-3C81-45B4-9C3C-4BE63171B6AB@me.com>
	<AANLkTik-QcNhQNdFRBGNyEOtXmUGwA5tT7mXQKv=7nG2@mail.gmail.com>
	<292550.18243.qm@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <328182.11660.qm@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Wouldn't the Mayflower be the true stepchild?  ;-)

Andy, you know I love them
too....

Jamie Palmer
RiffRAF Racing




________________________________
From: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
To: Andre Rousseau <andre at gt6.ca>
Cc: FoT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:09:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark

another GT6... oh boy! nicely
prepared too...

seems Kas' and his new book are bringing the step child of
Triumphs out in the 
open... well.... except for Heralds....

Bobby Whitehead
________________________________
From: Andre Rousseau <andre at gt6.ca>
To: Scott
Janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011
7:47:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
http://andrerousseau.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/20100926__2036.jpg

There
they are.

I tried to climb into the car and left Jeff and Andrew in stitches.
Its sounds so nice.

A.

On 3 January 2011 20:28, Scott Janzen
<sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we
keeping with the
> custom of having the new guy tell us something about
himself and his
> car?
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:
>
>
I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
>
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school
> with
>
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's
> looking to
go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
>
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  4 09:18:44 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:18:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Question about oil pan baffling...and invitation to join us
Message-ID: <807106.92571.qm@web114709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Your resident ChumpCar TR6 campaigners need a little advice.  I'm guessing
most 
of you have accusump or similar systems on your cars, but we aren't
allowed to 
by the ChumpCar rules and budget restrictions.  Among the races
we're running 
this year are Rockingham and  Charlotte Motor Speedway (road
course 
configurations) where you spend a lot of time on the banking (it's
questionable 
whether or not we will have the speed to actually make it UP the
banking, but at 
least in principle we will...) and we're worried about oil
starvation.  Any 
ideas on pan baffling or some other solution, or are we
worried about nothing?

BTW, if any of you are interested in coming out to
watch and/or play with us 
this year, our schedule is:

March 12-13    
Rockingham, NC (7-hrs each day)
April 23            Charlotte, NC (14-hr)
June
18-19        Roebling Road (7-hrs each day)
July 30-31        VIR (24-hr)
September 3-5    National Chumpionship, Iowa Speedway, 25-hr, multiple track
configurations
September 24    Sebring (14-hr, full course)
October 8-9       
Nelson Ledges, (25-hr 25-minutes)

We'd love to have any fellow FOT'ers out
there.  Lacey (our TR6) is now proudly 
sporting her FOT decals!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader, RiffRAF Racing
http://riffrafracing.blogspot.com (due to be
updated)
http://www.riffrafracing.com (under construction)

From walt at hot-tr6.com  Tue Jan  4 09:47:06 2011
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:47:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] truck with room
Message-ID: <C04A8FC6C6124DE888FB2D6E772FDD99@walt>

Hello, I am moving some furniture for my daughter this weekend, January 8,
2011. I will be going one way from Albuquerque, New Mexico to Las Vegas,
Nevada with a 16' Budget turck and there will be room left over if this
helps any FOT members with anything.
Walt Hollowell
Abq., NM

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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 10:15:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:15:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Patches
Message-ID: <DB5B35AA-3B67-4B88-850C-D12D284C25B2@aol.com>

Amici

I am not trying to get patches made. The badge project was a big enough
undertaking.


Some one had asked me for the badge design because they were looking into
getting patches made

Happy new year
Chris

From dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  4 10:19:42 2011
From: dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net (dale oesterle)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:19:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Question about flow numbers
In-Reply-To: <807106.92571.qm@web114709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <134501.6932.qm@web82201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have flow bench numbers for a good race head on a 1300 spitfire
(with or without intake manifold)?  Dale Oesterle

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Fot] Question about oil pan baffling...and invitation to join us
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 11:18 AM


Your resident ChumpCar TR6 campaigners need a little advice.  I'm guessing
most
of you have accusump or similar systems on your cars, but we aren't
allowed to
by the ChumpCar rules and budget restrictions.  Among the races
we're running
this year are Rockingham and  Charlotte Motor Speedway (road
course
configurations) where you spend a lot of time on the banking (it's
questionable
whether or not we will have the speed to actually make it UP the
banking, but at
least in principle we will...) and we're worried about oil
starvation.  Any
ideas on pan baffling or some other solution, or are we
worried about nothing?

BTW, if any of you are interested in coming out to
watch and/or play with us
this year, our schedule is:

March 12-13   
Rockingham, NC (7-hrs each day)
April 23            Charlotte, NC (14-hr)
June
18-19        Roebling Road (7-hrs each day)
July 30-31        VIR (24-hr)
September 3-5    National Chumpionship, Iowa Speedway, 25-hr, multiple track
configurations
September 24    Sebring (14-hr, full course)
October 8-9       
Nelson Ledges, (25-hr 25-minutes)

We'd love to have any fellow FOT'ers out
there.  Lacey (our TR6) is now proudly
sporting her FOT decals!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader, RiffRAF Racing
http://riffrafracing.blogspot.com (due to be
updated)
http://www.riffrafracing.com (under construction)
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From herald948 at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 10:42:28 2011
From: herald948 at aol.com (Andrew Mace)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:42:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <328182.11660.qm@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com><6E305128-3C81-45B4-9C3C-4BE63171B6AB@me.com><AANLkTik-QcNhQNdFRBGNyEOtXmUGwA5tT7mXQKv=7nG2@mail.gmail.com><292550.18243.qm@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<328182.11660.qm@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CD7A4DE1D8DEEB-1A98-8AE@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>

 I'm not sure. I vaguely remember, years ago, seeing a photograph of a
Mayflower with the Group 44 logo/numbers on the side! :-)



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph
Register: http://www.vtr.org

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald
Database: http://triumph-herald.us




-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 11:04 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark


Wouldn't the Mayflower be the true stepchild?  ;-)

From jmwagner at greenheart.com  Tue Jan  4 10:49:05 2011
From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 09:49:05 -0800
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
Message-ID: <4D235D91.2020400@greenheart.com>

Just ran across this on Craigslist...   --J


1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Jan  4 11:05:40 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:05:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Patches A new FOT project plus 2011 and 2012 race
 committees
In-Reply-To: <DB5B35AA-3B67-4B88-850C-D12D284C25B2@aol.com>
References: <DB5B35AA-3B67-4B88-850C-D12D284C25B2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD7A5121763DB4-15EC-15F1@webmail-d040.sysops.aol.com>

 This project is pending and will surface in 30 days or so.

The plan is to replicate the medallion as a sew on patch.

The project has a 'champion' and I think he will follow through.

Great volunteerism that surfaces among the ranks of the FOT.

One of the reasons that we dont have OFFICERS and DUES.

We DO have a new 'COMMITTEE' approach to our annual race which involves the
Kastner Cup. We should be hearing from them shortly on both the 2011 and 2012
events.

Joe A








-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
To: FoTTriumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 11:15 am
Subject: [Fot] Patches


Amici



I am not trying to get patches made. The badge project was a big enough

undertaking.





Some one had asked me for the badge design because they were looking into

getting patches made



Happy new year

Chris

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From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Jan  4 11:13:30 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:13:30 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end time
 Jan-06-11 13:25:39 PST)
Message-ID: <47CC2BB3AB7D4BDFB09754D2BEE39807@Bud>

Hi Gang...Here's the Ebay link to a beautiful Peerless with original Triumph
engine..
Racer bud..Spitfire #21



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513651517+&v
iewitem=

From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 11:22:31 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:22:31 EST
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
Message-ID: <41f07.6b838e0d.3a54bf67@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/04/2011 12:16:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
jmwagner at greenheart.com writes:


> Just ran across this on Craigslist...   --J
> 
> 
> 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html
> 

Pretty car...but then...aren't they all.

Bill Dentinger

From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Jan  4 11:23:58 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:23:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
In-Reply-To: <4D235D91.2020400@greenheart.com>
References: <4D235D91.2020400@greenheart.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101041322460.343@isis.mit.edu>

On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Justin Wagner wrote:

> Just ran across this on Craigslist...   --J
>
>
> 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html

Hawk it to Wayne Carrini - you could make a killing!!!

:-)

Actually, this looks like a pretty nice car!

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From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 11:55:29 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:55:29 EST
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end
 time Jan-0...
Message-ID: <833.159ae76d.3a54c721@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/04/2011 12:34:15 PM Central Standard Time, 
budscars at comcast.net writes:


> <<< Hi Gang...Here's the Ebay link to a beautiful Peerless with original 
> Triumph
> engine..
> Racer bud..Spitfire #21 >>>
> 

Amici...

Sure is.  Looks like a gorgeous restoration.  Says, "California Car".  Kas 
might tell you that most of them are, at least a lot of them came into the 
country via California, and have his fingerprints on them.  

Bob Wismer and I have an original Peerless (#112), that is completely 
operational, and in respectable 'unrestored' condition for a fifty plus year old 
car.  It has a roll bar and some limited (mostly VSCCA) competition history. 
 We have not raced it, because of a bug or two (i.e., one of the twin fuel 
tanks leaks) but Wismer did a 500 mile+ Rally a year or two back, and 
Shirley and I take it out to dinner now and again.  Past that...it's been in warm, 
inside storage as long as we've owned it.  

We have not advertised it, but it is For Sale.  Contact me if you are 
interested, or want to see a picture.

Bill Dentinger

From tlizzard at msn.com  Tue Jan  4 15:55:15 2011
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:55:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end
 time Jan-06-11 13:25:39 PST)
In-Reply-To: <47CC2BB3AB7D4BDFB09754D2BEE39807@Bud>
References: <47CC2BB3AB7D4BDFB09754D2BEE39807@Bud>
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds18CFB4BCE19A2A7537E4CAC3080@phx.gbl>

Pretty.


Terry Stetler
  ----- Original Message -----
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  To: fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
  Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end time
Jan-06-11 13:25:39 PST)


  Hi Gang...Here's the Ebay link to a beautiful Peerless with original
Triumph
  engine..
  Racer bud..Spitfire #21



  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513651517+
&v<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513651517
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Jan  4 20:36:38 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:36:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SPITFIRE REAR ENGINE PLATE-ONE LEFT
Message-ID: <8CD7AA0E4E2FD28-DE4-C35F2@webmail-m101.sysops.aol.com>

 I had an order for a ALUMINUM rear SPITFIRE plate and found only two on the
shelf.

If anyone has been thinking about getting one in the near future, this is it.

We will likely run some in future, however. Pretty slow moving.

Still trying to justify engineering the front plate...or find the time.

Thanks,

Joe  A

From vintage.racer at comcast.net  Tue Jan  4 22:26:50 2011
From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 05:26:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101041322460.343@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <2017973492.781100.1294205210759.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Robert: 


Thanks, it is a nice car but the real beauty is underneath and on the inside where you'd find a RATCO frame, several of Joe Alexander's race bits and a bunch of other goodies. 


Gary 
#67 TR4 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu> 
To: "Justin Wagner" <jmwagner at greenheart.com> 
Cc: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2011 10:23:58 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale 

On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Justin Wagner wrote: 

> Just ran across this on Craigslist... --J 
> 
> 
> 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale 
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html 

Hawk it to Wayne Carrini - you could make a killing!!! 

:-) 

Actually, this looks like a pretty nice car! 

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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Jan  5 05:07:43 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:07:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>

Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to 
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
some weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that 
"we" aren't polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause 
I have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan  5 06:42:59 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:42:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8CD7AF599928215-17A8-196D4@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com>

 Anodizing or powder coating might be two good coatings

I hadnt thought of doing either, but have those resources.

Polishing and then powder coat clear might be another choice.

Joe A








-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 6:07 am
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From chasgee at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 08:08:52 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:08:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>

You can get rattle cans of metal etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, etc.
that really improve the adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it is
kind of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it.  Anodizing
would be the best bet, but costs a little more.

Chuck





-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan  5 08:12:54 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:12:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <1894772994.597151.1294240184047.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1919979114.597293.1294240374437.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

If you can find a powder coater that uses Cardinal powder you can get rattle
can touch up

paint for it. You can also get clear powder coat if you wanted to polish it.





Jim G.




----- Original Message -----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
To: lang at isis.mit.edu, fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 6:42:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

B Anodizing or powder coating might be two good coatings

I hadnt thought of doing either, but have those resources.

Polishing and then powder coat clear might be another choice.

Joe A








-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 6:07 am
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
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From kaskas at cox.net  Wed Jan  5 08:41:23 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:41:23 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
	<8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. It 
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and 
so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.

--------------------------------------------------
From: <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
To: <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

> You can get rattle cans of metal etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, etc.
> that really improve the adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it 
> is
> kind of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it. 
> Anodizing
> would be the best bet, but costs a little more.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
> install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
> some
> weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
> installed
> these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
> polishing them before installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause 
> I
> have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed Jan  5 09:07:37 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:07:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
Message-ID: <780529.37735.qm@smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 The zinc chromate primer that I have used is bright yellow and it works
well.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Kas Kastner
Sent: January 5, 2011 10:41 AM
To: lang at isis.mit.edu; fot at autox.team.net; chasgee at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. It
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and
so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.

From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 09:08:16 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:08:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>

Try  Skygeek.com....get the Tempo brand green zinc chromate  
spray...GREAT...get it before they stop makin it...rick
 
 
In a message dated 1/5/2011 11:02:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
kaskas at cox.net writes:

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your  paint store. 
It 
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in  most aircraft and 
so prevalent in Army and Air Force  parts.

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
To:  <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot]  Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

> You can get rattle cans of metal  etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, 
etc.
> that really improve the  adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it 
> is
> kind  of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it. 
>  Anodizing
> would be the best bet, but costs a little  more.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert M. Lang  <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed,  Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine  Plates
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of  the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet 
to
> install them, yet.  However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
> some
>  weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
>  The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing,  etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed  that folks have 
> installed
> these on the cars that I've looked  at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
> polishing them before  installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're  using as a primer 
bacause 
> I
> have really crappy luck with  getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
>  rml
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 09:16:11 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:16:11 EST
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <1db5b0.5efca24b.3a55f34b@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/05/2011 10:02:18 AM Central Standard Time, 
kaskas at cox.net writes:


> The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. 
> It 
> is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and 
> 
> so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.
> 
> 

Olive Drab?  I'll be damn'd!  You mean that stuff is NOT British Racing 
Green?

Bill (Damdinger)

PS  Remember Olive Drab Tanker Jackets (ala Eisenhower).  I had several, 
and a Duck Tail too.  But no Triumphs at the time.  I had a powder blue 1951 
Ford convertible, skirts, continental kit, shaved, lowered, Smithy pipes, 
etc.

From rfdeanes at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 09:31:08 2011
From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:31:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=sBSH89VaFOpR0LOCzEBQFQuMacvXrKa+qzcwy@mail.gmail.com>

I also us Zinc Chromate and then use the color that I do the engine in and
it all blends in, alittle lighter all ways helps and nobody knows but me, on
the coast we use  Zinc Chromate on alot of things that take salt, corrosion
and oil abuse ,haven't had any problems with the paint coming off.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
> install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
> weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have
> installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we"
> aren't polishing them before installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
> have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan  5 10:13:09 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard Meyerl)
Message-ID: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>

 FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,


Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
Germany. I am helping with this process.

Reinhard resides in the south of Germany, near Munich. He drives a nicely
prepared TR4 in coupe configuration. I believe he ran the SPA and Nurbergring
last year, as well as a number of rallies.

Reinard will make a great addition to our growing international 'membership.

Please welcome REINHARD to the list. Christian will mentor him in how our
lists works, and we hope he will soon share his experiences on and off the
track.

I just sent Reinhard Kas' newest book and he will likely get to know some of
us through this great book.

Christian Marx & Joe A

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan  5 10:17:30 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:17:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MARK BRADAKIS
Message-ID: <8CD7B1391691E94-1820-93B7@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>

 Mark,

reinhardmayerl at arcomail.de

when you are ready to add to the list....   thanks!  Joe

From riverside at southslope.net  Wed Jan  5 10:39:19 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:39:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu><8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>
	<A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
Message-ID: <001001cbacff$84d76e20$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>

We started having trouble acquiring zinc chromate primers some
years ago.   We were told it was a hazmat problem.

art de armond
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas at cox.net>
To: <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>; <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


> The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. 
> It is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft 
> and so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <chasgee at aol.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
> To: <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>
>> You can get rattle cans of metal etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, 
>> etc.
>> that really improve the adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it 
>> is
>> kind of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it. 
>> Anodizing
>> would be the best bet, but costs a little more.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>> Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
>> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet 
>> to
>> install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
>> some
>> weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>>
>> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>>
>> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
>> installed
>> these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
>> polishing them before installing...
>>
>> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause 
>> I
>> have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>>
>> regards,
>> rml
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From tr4.tony at virgin.net  Wed Jan  5 10:59:45 2011
From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (tr4.tony at virgin.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:59:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
 Meyerl)
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References: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <171162302-1294250444-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-338104128-@b4.c1.bise7.blackberry>

Happy to second this one ... Any friend of Chris is a friend of mine !  
Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device

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From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:09 
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: <reinhardmayerl at arcormail.de>
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard Meyerl)

 FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,


Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
Germany. I am helping with this process.

Reinhard resides in the south of Germany, near Munich. He drives a nicely
prepared TR4 in coupe configuration. I believe he ran the SPA and Nurbergring
last year, as well as a number of rallies.

Reinard will make a great addition to our growing international 'membership.

Please welcome REINHARD to the list. Christian will mentor him in how our
lists works, and we hope he will soon share his experiences on and off the
track.

I just sent Reinhard Kas' newest book and he will likely get to know some of
us through this great book.

Christian Marx & Joe A
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 11:06:56 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:06:56 EST
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
 Meyerl)
Message-ID: <f4063.73e58e92.3a560d40@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/05/2011 11:34:30 AM Central Standard Time, 
n197tr4 at cs.com writes:


> FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,
> 
> 
> Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
> Germany. I am helping with this process.
> 

Ach du lieber!  Ja!  Zwie!

Bill Dentinger
Milwaukee

From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Jan  5 11:20:12 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:20:12 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>,
	<8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>,
	<A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
Message-ID: <SNT141-w1691D75288D5A0707CD3EFB2090@phx.gbl>

Happy new year to everyone...
my two cents....coarse scotch brite, then fine, then with WD 40. I hate
watching paint dry ;) Easy to clean and maybe 20 mins of your time.

> From: kaskas at cox.net
> To: lang at isis.mit.edu; fot at autox.team.net; chasgee at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:41:23 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>
> The undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. It
> is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and
> so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Jan  5 11:26:10 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:26:10 +0100
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
 Meyerl)
In-Reply-To: <171162302-1294250444-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-338104128-@b4.c1.bise7.blackberry>
References: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>
	<171162302-1294250444-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-338104128-@b4.c1.bise7.blackberry>
Message-ID: <001f01cbad06$07d3ef50$177bcdf0$@com>

Hi Guys.....thank you for this warm welcome of Reinhard!
He mostly racing in the Bavaria part of Germany with a little group or team
around him.
More he might tell us when he first time appear on this list.

Cheers
Chris


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Auftrag von tr4.tony at virgin.net
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2011 19:00
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Cc: reinhardmayerl at arcormail.de
Betreff: Re: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
Meyerl)

Happy to second this one ... Any friend of Chris is a friend of mine !
Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:09
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: <reinhardmayerl at arcormail.de>
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard Meyerl)

 FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,


Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
Germany. I am helping with this process.

Reinhard resides in the south of Germany, near Munich. He drives a nicely
prepared TR4 in coupe configuration. I believe he ran the SPA and
Nurbergring
last year, as well as a number of rallies.

Reinard will make a great addition to our growing international 'membership.

Please welcome REINHARD to the list. Christian will mentor him in how our
lists works, and we hope he will soon share his experiences on and off the
track.

I just sent Reinhard Kas' newest book and he will likely get to know some of
us through this great book.

Christian Marx & Joe A
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From KENMUN at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 12:02:52 2011
From: KENMUN at aol.com (KENMUN at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:02:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] tr3 brake master cyl. upgrade to dual system
Message-ID: <b6fef.fe374f7.3a561a5c@aol.com>

fot, anyone have any advice on adapting a dual brake master cyl. to a tr3?  
i'm looking at a gt6 that looks like it might be made to work with a lot of 
 mods. thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer.

From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Jan  5 13:07:32 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:07:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] tr3 brake master cyl. upgrade to dual system
In-Reply-To: <b6fef.fe374f7.3a561a5c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110105200732.ZEU62.148141.root@cdptpa-web12-z02>

I have designed a mount to hold 3 Tilton 75 series master cylinders (the short Wilwood cylinders will also work). It is aluminum. I have just finished fab'ing the parts and dropped it off to be welded. It will use the stock TR3 pedal assembly, the stock pushrods that come with the Tilton cylinders, and heim joints at the attach points. As designed, no firewall modifications are needed since all three cylinders will fit within the stock firewall opening. As designed, pressure differential will have to be handled by a Tilton pressure differential valve installed inline for the rear brakes. If interested, I can send pictures when I get it back later this week along with dimensions of the various parts.

BobD  

 
---- KENMUN at aol.com wrote: 
> fot, anyone have any advice on adapting a dual brake master cyl. to a tr3?  
> i'm looking at a gt6 that looks like it might be made to work with a lot of 
>  mods. thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer.
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From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Jan  5 13:09:52 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:09:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <1db5b0.5efca24b.3a55f34b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110105200952.A51EU.148156.root@cdptpa-web12-z02>

Boat supply stores usually stock it, too.

BobD
---- BillDentin at aol.com wrote: 
> In a message dated 01/05/2011 10:02:18 AM Central Standard Time, 
> kaskas at cox.net writes:
> 
> 
> > The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. 
> > It 
> > is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and 
> > 
> > so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Olive Drab?  I'll be damn'd!  You mean that stuff is NOT British Racing 
> Green?
> 
> Bill (Damdinger)
> 
> PS  Remember Olive Drab Tanker Jackets (ala Eisenhower).  I had several, 
> and a Duck Tail too.  But no Triumphs at the time.  I had a powder blue 1951 
> Ford convertible, skirts, continental kit, shaved, lowered, Smithy pipes, 
> etc.
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 14:04:28 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:04:28 EST
Subject: [Fot] tr3 brake master cyl. upgrade to dual system
Message-ID: <3dd7f.48751d11.3a5636dc@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/05/2011 1:29:56 PM Central Standard Time, 
KENMUN at aol.com writes:


> fot, anyone have any advice on adapting a dual brake master cyl. to a 
> tr3?  
> i'm looking at a gt6 that looks like it might be made to work with a lot 
> of 
> mods. thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer.
> 

Ken...

There is a LUCAS part off an Austin Taxi cab that will allow you to split 
the brake cylinder on a TR3 without butchering a lot of sheet metal.   It is 
LUCAS Part #64066044, and if you order one, be sure to get a rebuild kit at 
the same time for on the shelf.  That number is #SP2683.  This was something 
sorted out by John Harkness for his TR3A years ago and it works slick.  I 
have one on my car and others do as well.

Bill Dentinger

Bill Dentinger

From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Jan  5 15:10:13 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:10:13 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
References: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>

Yes, get some of them, because in europe they no longer sell these anymore,
due to environmental laws. We used to have chromate primers as etch primers
for steel as well, but forbidden also. And the new eco friendly replacement
are nowhere as good (engineers from Dupont told me).
As I realise now these are still avail in the US, will get some!
Cheers!
Alex

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de REK46 at aol.com
Envoyi : mercredi 5 janvier 2011 17:08
@ : kaskas at cox.net; lang at isis.mit.edu; fot at autox.team.net; chasgee at aol.com
Objet : Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

Try  Skygeek.com....get the Tempo brand green zinc chromate
spray...GREAT...get it before they stop makin it...rick


In a message dated 1/5/2011 11:02:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kaskas at cox.net writes:

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your  paint store.
It
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in  most aircraft and
so prevalent in Army and Air Force  parts.

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
To:  <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot]  Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

> You can get rattle cans of metal  etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's,
etc.
> that really improve the  adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it
> is
> kind  of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it.
>  Anodizing
> would be the best bet, but costs a little  more.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert M. Lang  <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed,  Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine  Plates
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of  the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet
to
> install them, yet.  However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose
> some
>  weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
>  The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing,  etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed  that folks have
> installed
> these on the cars that I've looked  at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
> polishing them before  installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're  using as a primer
bacause
> I
> have really crappy luck with  getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
>  rml
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Jan  5 16:25:03 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:25:03 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
References: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
	<000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <000f01cbad2f$c8c4f410$5a4edc30$@com>

The main problem with zinc chromate is that it is a skin contact poison.
It enters through the skin into the body.

Always should be applied with gloves.

Cheers
Chris

From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan  5 16:26:51 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:26:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <1729583835.624575.1294268308807.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Greetings FoT,

I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach

dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.

I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was plagued

with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
side.

In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users manual

and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have ever
seen

probes that far away from the flange.

Input would be appreciated.



Jim G

# 102

From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Jan  5 16:58:32 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:58:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4D2505A8.2030706@cfl.rr.com>

1 1/2" is to close. I've always had good results at 4"-5".

BobD

On 1/5/2011 6:26 PM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed Jan  5 17:00:35 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:00:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <000f01cbad2f$c8c4f410$5a4edc30$@com>
Message-ID: <779276.41145.qm@smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hmm, I guess in aerosol even worse...that could explain EVERYTHING...

Haha

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: January 5, 2011 6:25 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

The main problem with zinc chromate is that it is a skin contact poison.
It enters through the skin into the body.

Always should be applied with gloves.

Cheers
Chris
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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Wed Jan  5 18:43:18 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 01:43:18 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Message-ID: <20110105.204318.13763.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

My EGT probes are 6 inches away and they seem fine there.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:26:51 +0000 (UTC)

Greetings FoT,

I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach

dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.

I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was
plagued

with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
side.

In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users
manual

and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have ever
seen

probes that far away from the flange.

Input would be appreciated.



Jim G

# 102
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  5 19:37:53 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:37:53 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <B13B0394-B3F3-4631-8393-45A0E36ED35B@yahoo.com>

I had inconsistent readings when I had mine 6 inches from the flange. Sam
Halkias told me to move them 6 inches from the valve and that corrected my
problems. I think I am going to try a wide band O2 sensor this year to get
another picture of what my mixture is like.

Mike
EP TR6

On Jan 5, 2011, at 5:26 PM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:

> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was
plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users
manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have
ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From igofaster at att.net  Wed Jan  5 20:15:42 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:15:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
Message-ID: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad 1500...


Bobby Whitehead

From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Jan  5 20:48:35 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:48:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
References: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
	<000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <4D253B93.6080005@bradakis.com>

What's the difference between an alley engine and a shade tree engine?

Alley more urban, shade tree more rural?

mjb.

From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Jan  5 20:58:34 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:58:34 -0700
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
In-Reply-To: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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I think I got my shortened pushrods from Ted Schumacher.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:16 PM
To: FoT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500

need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad
1500...


Bobby Whitehead
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan  5 22:34:57 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:34:57 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <993B045C5BA14D07BBF9E2B488EBF924@KasPC>
Message-ID: <20110106053619.409C0187669@autox.team.net>

At 5200' elevation my timing is 36 degrees BTC, that's 2 below what others
run up here, at Topeka I was at 31 with all my advance in at 4000.
My gas is 108 at 12.5:1 CR. I guess when I installed the probes I was under
the assumption all EGT gauges & probes were the same with the same offset
from the flange. 

Jim G 
# 102

-----Original Message-----
From: Kas Kastner [mailto:kaskas at cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:22 PM
To: toodamnfunky at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location

That close to the flange will probably still see some flame and that is too 
close for accurate readings.  The retarded ignition will also add to the 
exhaust temp. But then, I don't know what you mean by "retarded" as in 
retarded from what, and what engine and what gasoline octane? (always more 
questions)
--------------------------------------------------
From: <toodamnfunky at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:26 PM
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location

> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was 
> plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users 
> manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have 
> ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From rwestfall at ymail.com  Wed Jan  5 22:41:04 2011
From: rwestfall at ymail.com (Russell Westfall)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:41:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Re:  Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <765398.54782.qm@web59909.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Russell Westfall <rwestfall at ymail.com> wrote:

From: Russell Westfall <rwestfall at ymail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
To: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 3:31 PM

Go to your local PPG or Dupont paint supplier and get some Aluma prep, Acid
etch primer and epoxy primer follow the insructions and you will be quite
pleased with the results. Powder coating is always an option, or if you don't
feel comfortable doing the painting yourself I have a close friend who owns a
Maaco shop and he will paint anything and do it well and at a reasonable
price. I'm sure that if you checked in your area you will find shops that
would do this for you. However, there is a pleasure in doing the job yourself.
Painting really is not a mystery and if the directions are followed with
todays materials the results are good. True Zinc Chromate primer hasn't been
legal in the U.S. in quite some time, it's really not good for you, but it did
make paint stick!
Russ Westfall

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 12:07 PM


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From adcronin at mi.rr.com  Thu Jan  6 08:59:54 2011
From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:59:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
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References: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A14E267F-9BB6-46FF-B54D-5938A091986B@mi.rr.com>

Contact Ted at TSI in Pandora Ohio.  NFI
Dan


On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote:

> need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad
1500...
>
>
> Bobby Whitehead
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From rodkent at cox.net  Thu Jan  6 09:10:34 2011
From: rodkent at cox.net (rodkent at cox.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:10:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
In-Reply-To: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110106111034.41P28.707091.imail@fed1rmwml31>

smith brothers pushrods will build what you need, highest quality.
---- Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net> wrote: 
need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad 1500...


Bobby Whitehead
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Thu Jan  6 16:11:59 2011
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:11:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
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You can use other primers besides zinc chromate.  I have used epoxy.  
You have to prep the aluminum, because it develops an aluminum oxide 
skin.  The prep usually involves a mild acid such as phosphoric.  It 
must be primed soon after the prep.  The primer should come with prep 
instructions.
Larry

On 1/5/2011 6:07 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've 
> yet to install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution 
> to loose some weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few 
> weeks.
>
> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
> installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that 
> "we" aren't polishing them before installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer 
> bacause I have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to 
> aluminium.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From REK46 at aol.com  Thu Jan  6 17:16:11 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:16:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <269f3.7b84659e.3a57b54b@aol.com>

use some Alodine to prep the surface
 
 
In a message dated 1/6/2011 7:01:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cartravel at pobox.com writes:

You can  use other primers besides zinc chromate.  I have used epoxy.   
You have to prep the aluminum, because it develops an aluminum oxide  
skin.  The prep usually involves a mild acid such as  phosphoric.  It 
must be primed soon after the prep.  The primer  should come with prep 
instructions.
Larry

On 1/5/2011 6:07 AM,  Robert M. Lang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the  original aluminium engine plates, I've 
> yet to install them, yet.  However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution 
> to loose some weight, so  the plate will be installed in the next few 
> weeks.
>
>  The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing,  etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed  that folks have 
> installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so  that tells me that 
> "we" aren't polishing them before  installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're  using as a primer 
> bacause I have really crappy luck with getting  paint to stick to 
> aluminium.
>
> regards,
>  rml
>  
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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Thu Jan  6 17:26:28 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:26:28 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Message-ID: <20110106.192628.8248.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>

A wide band O2 sensor is the way to go.  I use an Innovate LM1 and LM3, thus
having data logging capability.  I don't keep the O2 sensor in all the time.
I used it, logged it, made adjustments as needed then took the system out.  I
noted what the EGTs were at WOT on a long straight and if readings are off
then I know something is not right and make mixture adjustments as needed.
Long term use of an O2 sensor with leaded fuel will ruin the sensor.
Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
To: "toodamnfunky at comcast.net" <toodamnfunky at comcast.net>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:37:53 -0600

I had inconsistent readings when I had mine 6 inches from the flange. Sam
Halkias told me to move them 6 inches from the valve and that corrected my
problems. I think I am going to try a wide band O2 sensor this year to get
another picture of what my mixture is like.

Mike
EP TR6

On Jan 5, 2011, at 5:26 PM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:

> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was
plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users
manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have
ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Jan  7 08:13:04 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:13:04 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Triumph cranks
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Message-ID: <002401cbae7d$63b71900$2b254b00$@com>

Hi,

does anyone know which company made the Triumph cranks?

Cheers
Chris

From BillDentin at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 10:57:16 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:57:16 EST
Subject: [Fot] Sad tale that includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...
Message-ID: <d5159.75d82dcb.3a58adfc@aol.com>

 Click here: Jamie Lincoln Kitman Examines the Life of a Car Enthusiast: 
Cars: GQ 

I am not sure if Mark allows the emailing of a link to the list like this, 
but this sad story about the life of a car collector includes a Triumph 
Dolomite Sprint, no less.

Bill Dentinger

From BillDentin at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 12:06:08 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:06:08 EST
Subject: [Fot] Includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...take two...
Message-ID: <dacfc.21ee3a67.3a58be20@aol.com>

Amici...

A second attempt to provide a link to an article in the Gentleman's 
Quarterly about the often sad affairs of an auto collector...including a Triumph 
Dolomite Sprint.

< 
www.gq.com/cars-gear/cars/201012/jamie-kitman-a-man-and-his-cars-life-of-a-car-enthusiast >

Bill Dentinger

PS  Thanks, Jim.

From rjl6n at cstone.net  Fri Jan  7 12:07:27 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:07:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Sad tale that includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...
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References: <d5159.75d82dcb.3a58adfc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <435fe0d983080c3030c66ab93acdb48a.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

Try this:

http://www.gq.com/cars-gear/cars/201012/jamie-kitman-a-man-and-his-cars-life-of-a-car-enthusiast

On Fri, January 7, 2011 12:57 pm, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>  Click here: Jamie Lincoln Kitman Examines the Life of a Car Enthusiast:
> Cars: GQ
>
> I am not sure if Mark allows the emailing of a link to the list like this,
> but this sad story about the life of a car collector includes a Triumph
> Dolomite Sprint, no less.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  7 16:04:16 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:04:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...take two...
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Jamie (by way of Car & Driver) brought several cars out to Michigan in 2005
for 
the
British Reliabilty Run. They brought the Dolomite, Minor, gold
Cortina and the 
MGA.
If you still have it, Kitman wrote an article for Car &
Driver . It was in the 
January 2006
issue.
________________________________
From: "BillDentin at aol.com"
<BillDentin at aol.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 2:06:08
PM
Subject: [Fot] Includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...take two...

Amici...
A second attempt to provide a link to an article in the Gentleman's 
Quarterly
about the often sad affairs of an auto collector...including a Triumph
Dolomite Sprint.

<
www.gq.com/cars-gear/cars/201012/jamie-kitman-a-man-and-his-cars-life-of-a-ca
r-enthusiast
 >

Bill Dentinger

PS  Thanks, Jim.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Jan  7 16:18:53 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:18:53 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Triumphs at Daytona 1967
Message-ID: <AANLkTims5B2HymTuHdL1sNDPC35O5U=E1_B3UCCU1H2C@mail.gmail.com>

Friends,
Found these short videos today while "working."
Two cool clips of the factory TR's at Daytona in 1967.
Part one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276276739/in/set-72157604389838783/

Part two:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276435807/in/set-72157604389838783/


Enjoy,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 22:46:10 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0800
Subject: [Fot] A nice demo lap of Laguna Seca Mazda Raceway
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
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Message-ID: <5F8FC533-FDB2-494A-92A7-FEC007A2AA5E@aol.com>

Gear up for June and the 2011 Kastner Cup....

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=MS3#/ 
trackAttack

From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 22:54:10 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:54:10 -0800
Subject: [Fot] A nice demo lap of Laguna Seca Mazda Raceway (corrected)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <58590112-BEC4-4D12-963C-DA0B8DA08618@aol.com>

Gear up for June and the 2011 Kastner Cup....

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=MS3#/ 
trackAttack

...AND CLICK ON "TRACK ATTACK" in upper left

From tlizzard at msn.com  Sat Jan  8 07:47:05 2011
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 09:47:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Triumphs at Daytona 1967
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTims5B2HymTuHdL1sNDPC35O5U=E1_B3UCCU1H2C@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BAY157-ds2AF4955C36F8C3F34811FC30C0@phx.gbl>

WOW!

Great find!

BTW I have used number 23 in my meager motorsport activities since 1970
because of that Ferrari 330 P4, the most beautiful automobile ever conceived.


Terry Stetler.

From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Jan  8 14:19:16 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Help moving a non Triumph item Cross country
Message-ID: <153E6018-7BDE-4AEF-AA07-85CA393534AE@aol.com>

Amici,

I have been contacted by a fellow collector from a different hobby  
and would like help getting it moved from Wyoming to the Eastcoast  
(PA,MD,NJ,NY) area.

It is a pinball machine.  It is ready to move.  Just need a  
handtruck. It will fit in a pickup or a van with no seats.  I am sure  
it will fit in a trailer.

Any Help?

Thanks
Chris

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Jan  8 17:35:07 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 01:35:07 +0100
Subject: [Fot] My currently fastest lap of Zandvoort
In-Reply-To: <153E6018-7BDE-4AEF-AA07-85CA393534AE@aol.com>
References: <153E6018-7BDE-4AEF-AA07-85CA393534AE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000a01cbaf95$1210cd30$36326790$@com>

This is less driving more sliding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSbQnFm2Q1I

Cheers
Chris

From list at mackenzie.aero  Sun Jan  9 18:37:07 2011
From: list at mackenzie.aero (Robert MacKenzie)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:37:07 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
Message-ID: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>

I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John
Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.

Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm
clutch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk

John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.


Robert MacKenzie
President, Hill Country Triumph Club
president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org
www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Jan  9 19:31:56 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
In-Reply-To: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
References: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
Message-ID: <8CD7E85AF29A8FB-FDC-1A0A6@webmail-m054.sysops.aol.com>

 Great stuff.....nothing like doing it easy way.

We did make a precision drill plate and have converted a number early
flywheels to diaphragm clutch.

It can be done on a drill press.   Dennis Delap has used it for one of his
flywheels.

It's just sitting on the shelf, so if someone wants to borrow it....shipping
costs will cover it.

But if you have a cnc resource, go for it!








-----Original Message-----
From: Robert MacKenzie <list at mackenzie.aero>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, Jan 9, 2011 7:37 pm
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification


I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John

Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.



Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm

clutch.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk



John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.





Robert MacKenzie

President, Hill Country Triumph Club

president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org

www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org

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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sun Jan  9 20:12:57 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:12:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted
Message-ID: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>

Amici,
  I am looking for a TR6 trans with no guts. I am just looking for  
the bellhousing to be in good shape. The rest is not needed.  Just a  
question......  Does a GT6 trans bolt to a TR6 engine?  If it does  
then I will take the bellhousing from that.

Thanks
Chris

From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan 10 06:23:31 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott janzen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:23:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted
In-Reply-To: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>
References: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>
Message-ID: <53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>

I'm in the process of evaluating the same project.  You will need a rear engine plate that matches the transmission, I.e. GT6 with GT6.  Also, TR6 transmissions have an integral cast bell housing, not a separate bolt-on one like a TR4-6

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:12 PM, christopher bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com> wrote:

> Amici,
> I am looking for a TR6 trans with no guts. I am just looking for the bellhousing to be in good shape. The rest is not needed.  Just a question......  Does a GT6 trans bolt to a TR6 engine?  If it does then I will take the bellhousing from that.
> 
> Thanks
> Chris
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan 10 09:13:40 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted
In-Reply-To: <53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>
References: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>
	<53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>
Message-ID: <E099064E-2023-4ACA-80F5-5D4BCFDE2DC0@me.com>

Meant to say that the GT6 trans has a bolt-on bell housing, where the  
TR4-6 have integral cast bell housings.

On Jan 10, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Scott janzen wrote:

I'm in the process of evaluating the same project.  You will need a  
rear engine plate that matches the transmission, I.e. GT6 with GT6.   
Also, TR6 transmissions have an integral cast bell housing, not a  
separate bolt-on one like a TR4-6

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:12 PM, christopher bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com> wrote:

> Amici,
> I am looking for a TR6 trans with no guts. I am just looking for the  
> bellhousing to be in good shape. The rest is not needed.  Just a  
> question......  Does a GT6 trans bolt to a TR6 engine?  If it does  
> then I will take the bellhousing from that.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan 10 09:15:11 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:15:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  TR6 empty trans wanted
References: <53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>
Message-ID: <815F0AD9-7C49-47BB-AC9B-E8412A95C12C@me.com>

Meant to say that the GT6 trans has a bolt-on bell housing, where the  
TR4-6 have integral cast bell housings.


Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted

I'm in the process of evaluating the same project.  You will need a  
rear engine plate that matches the transmission, I.e. GT6 with GT6.   
Also, TR6 transmissions have an integral cast bell housing, not a  
separate bolt-on one like a TR4-6

From list at mackenzie.aero  Mon Jan 10 09:59:10 2011
From: list at mackenzie.aero (Robert MacKenzie)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:59:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
In-Reply-To: <000E00F6C34A41DC9E8E969306713975@roberta16b8c09>
References: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
	<000E00F6C34A41DC9E8E969306713975@roberta16b8c09>
Message-ID: <004501cbb0e7$b401c560$1c055020$@aero>

John is an amazing machinist.  I spent a day in his shop last spring and
watched him overhaul my Spit cyl head and fit custom bee-hive valve springs
(search his videos to see it done)

He is a "fiat guy" but I can't hold that against him.

-----Original Message-----
From: rdwismer [mailto:rdwismer at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:36 AM
To: robert at mackenzie.aero
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification

Good video. We need to keep this guy's name/number on file.

I am always impressed with a good machinist. I have a plumber replacing 
tub/shower faucets in one of our bathrooms today. Good plumbers impress me 
as well. In fact, all most everybody that is good impresses 
me..........Wismer




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert MacKenzie" <list at mackenzie.aero>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification


>
> I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John
> Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.
>
> Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm
> clutch.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk
>
> John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.
>
>
> Robert MacKenzie
> President, Hill Country Triumph Club
> president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org
> www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org
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>
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Mon Jan 10 13:11:31 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:11:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
In-Reply-To: <004501cbb0e7$b401c560$1c055020$@aero>
References: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
	<000E00F6C34A41DC9E8E969306713975@roberta16b8c09>
	<004501cbb0e7$b401c560$1c055020$@aero>
Message-ID: <002e01cbb102$931ad010$b9507030$@rr.com>

Fiat, you mean the parent company of Ferrari? What's to hold against him?
Russ Moore


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Robert MacKenzie
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:59 AM
To: 'rdwismer'
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification

John is an amazing machinist.  I spent a day in his shop last spring and
watched him overhaul my Spit cyl head and fit custom bee-hive valve springs
(search his videos to see it done)

He is a "fiat guy" but I can't hold that against him.

-----Original Message-----
From: rdwismer [mailto:rdwismer at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:36 AM
To: robert at mackenzie.aero
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification

Good video. We need to keep this guy's name/number on file.

I am always impressed with a good machinist. I have a plumber replacing 
tub/shower faucets in one of our bathrooms today. Good plumbers impress me 
as well. In fact, all most everybody that is good impresses 
me..........Wismer




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert MacKenzie" <list at mackenzie.aero>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification


>
> I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John
> Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.
>
> Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm
> clutch.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk
>
> John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.
>
>
> Robert MacKenzie
> President, Hill Country Triumph Club
> president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org
> www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org
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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Tue Jan 11 10:04:41 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:04:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European race
 cars....need submissions!!!]
Message-ID: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

Hi folks,

I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
some of you might be interested in contacting him
about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
for a few years.  They often have some interesting
cars there.  Please contact Ric at:

<ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>

directly for more details.

John

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
cars....need submissions!!!
From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Good Morning!

Some F1 pics for you:
http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
0-s-amp-70-s.


I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
September.

I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
could lead us to such cars?

We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...


 Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!

Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
concourse, etc....should be fun!!!

Ric

From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Jan 11 10:28:17 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:28:17 -0600
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European
 race cars....need submissions!!!]
In-Reply-To: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.n et>
References: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
Message-ID: <20110111172806.5DD7C18764A@autox.team.net>

Where (geographically) is this?

- Tony

At 11:04 AM 1/11/2011, rjl6n at cstone.net wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
>some of you might be interested in contacting him
>about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
>your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
>would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
>very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
>for a few years.  They often have some interesting
>cars there.  Please contact Ric at:
>
><ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>
>directly for more details.
>
>John
>
>---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
>cars....need submissions!!!
>From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
>To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Good Morning!
>
>Some F1 pics for you:
>http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
>0-s-amp-70-s.
>
>
>I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
>September.
>
>I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
>European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
>as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
>could lead us to such cars?
>
>We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
>and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...
>
>
>  Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
>kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
>mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!
>
>Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
>concourse, etc....should be fun!!!
>
>Ric

From rjl6n at cstone.net  Tue Jan 11 11:25:38 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:25:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European
 race cars....need submissions!!!]
In-Reply-To: <20110111172824.2BF281F4018@mailstore06.ntelos.net>
References: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
	<20110111172824.2BF281F4018@mailstore06.ntelos.net>
Message-ID: <fcc1087b3c537a66771dec1daa482584.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

Hi Tony,

Sorry, it will be at a winery near Richmond, VA (in
New Kent County, I believe).  There is also a golf
course nearby, I am told.

John

On Tue, January 11, 2011 12:28 pm, Tony Drews wrote:
> Where (geographically) is this?
>
> - Tony
>
> At 11:04 AM 1/11/2011, rjl6n at cstone.net wrote:
>>Hi folks,
>>
>>I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
>>some of you might be interested in contacting him
>>about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
>>your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
>>would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
>>very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
>>for a few years.  They often have some interesting
>>cars there.  Please contact Ric at:
>>
>><ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>>
>>directly for more details.
>>
>>John
>>
>>---------------------------- Original Message
>> ----------------------------
>>Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
>>cars....need submissions!!!
>>From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>>Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
>>To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Good Morning!
>>
>>Some F1 pics for you:
>>http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
>>0-s-amp-70-s.
>>
>>
>>I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
>>September.
>>
>>I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
>>European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
>>as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
>>could lead us to such cars?
>>
>>We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
>>and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...
>>
>>
>>  Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
>>kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
>>mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!
>>
>>Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
>>concourse, etc....should be fun!!!
>>
>>Ric

From riverside at southslope.net  Tue Jan 11 15:27:57 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:27:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
Message-ID: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>

Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond

From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Jan 11 16:54:31 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:54:31 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
Message-ID: <C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>

There are two different castings that were used.  The thicker one is good
but the thinner one is probably too weak to be something I would recommend.
I have seen the thicker one going for around a hundred bucks,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Jan 11 17:38:44 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:38:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
	<C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
Message-ID: <000001cbb1f1$117228c0$34567a40$@rr.com>

That is about the right price but I have seen problems with both versions of
the aluminum bell housing and removed mine after finding too many fractures
to suit me. I am back to a cast iron one with shield. 
Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:55 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

There are two different castings that were used.  The thicker one is good
but the thinner one is probably too weak to be something I would recommend.
I have seen the thicker one going for around a hundred bucks,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From norlinengineering at comcast.net  Tue Jan 11 19:40:19 2011
From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:40:19 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
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I did a bunch of research on this about a year ago.  The thinner one is off
a Herald and from what I was told, is probably not a candidate for a race
car.  Street car, sure.  I have one and would be willing to part with it.

The thicker bellhousing is off of an early (very early) Spitfire.  They are
very difficult to find.  I located one last year and had to give $175 for
it.  

New ones are available out of England for around $500.  Spitbits sometimes
has them in stock.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

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From herald948 at aol.com  Tue Jan 11 19:57:43 2011
From: herald948 at aol.com (Andrew Mace)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:57:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
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	<C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
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 I've seen the thicker ones go for well over $100. Fortunately, I've never
tested one of those. However, I did blow up a clutch in the Herald, 2nd gear
and probably about 2000-2500 rpm (just going up a hill). Enough of the clutch
remained so that the car could be nursed home under its own power, but all
shifting had to be done by matching revs and praying. When I got it all apart,
I found one or two tiny dents and/or holes in the (thinner Herald-style)
bellhousing. Wasn't enough to make me toss the bellhousing...but it did make
me think a bit. The genuine Spitfire alloy housings are much thicker than
those of the earlier Herald gearbox, especially at the engine mating flange.

For what it's worth, the difference in weight is amazing. The cast iron
bellhousing is somewhere in the 30 lb. range, while the alloy bellhousings are
more like 7-10 lb. or thereabouts.



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph
Register: http://www.vtr.org

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald
Database: http://triumph-herald.us




-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: 'riverside' <riverside at southslope.net>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


There are two different castings that were used.  The thicker one is good

but the thinner one is probably too weak to be something I would recommend.

I have seen the thicker one going for around a hundred bucks,

From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Jan 11 20:41:19 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:41:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
	<478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
Message-ID: <073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>

I have one that I will let go for $15,000.00.  And I will throw in a full
race fuel injected 1296 engine, Full synchro 3-Rail OD gearbox and a
beautiful Mk1 Spitfire body complete with interior and soft top.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Norlin Engineering
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:40 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

I did a bunch of research on this about a year ago.  The thinner one is off
a Herald and from what I was told, is probably not a candidate for a race
car.  Street car, sure.  I have one and would be willing to part with it.

The thicker bellhousing is off of an early (very early) Spitfire.  They are
very difficult to find.  I located one last year and had to give $175 for
it.  

New ones are available out of England for around $500.  Spitbits sometimes
has them in stock.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Jan 11 23:11:10 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:11:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Does anyone know anything about this TR 4 / 5 / 6?
Message-ID: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>


From billb at bnj.com  Wed Jan 12 00:13:22 2011
From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:13:22 -1000
Subject: [Fot] Does anyone know anything about this TR 4 / 5 / 6?
In-Reply-To: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
References: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <6DB57044-3528-4D4E-888F-E4994D9336F6@bnj.com>

Well, that certainly leaves a lot of room for response. 
On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Tony Drews wrote:

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Jan 12 02:13:34 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:13:34 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Who knows anything about that car?
Message-ID: <000001cbb238$fe7bccb0$fb736610$@com>

A search for information about that car b maybe you might be able to help:

-------- Original-Nachricht --------

Betreff:
bitte an deine facebook Freunde weiterleiten

Datum:
Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:45:35 +0100

Von:
Dieter Seidel  <mailto:Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de> <Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de>

An:
info at kartec.de



     Dear Triumph friends,

           does anybody know something about this car ?
           ( see pictures )
http://picasaweb.google.com/tr4racing/TR4Racing#5561218334964309298
http://picasaweb.google.com/tr4racing/TR4Racing#5561220857246843266

           I am a Triumph enthusiast for more than 30 years
           and I am racing a TR 4 for about 20 years now.

           And I bought this "TR 250" racer in may 1989 somewhere
           in Los Angeles - since that it was stored in a barn
           at my place in Paderborn / Germany.
           Before restoring it now, I would like to know some
           details of its history.
           Hope there is someone out there in California who
           remembers this special rainbow stripes.
           For several reasons it seems to me that it was never
           used as an ordinary road car.
           It has a TR4 body which was originaly a powderblue one,
           a TR250 / TR6 frame with a Datsun-Nissan 260Z rear axle,
           a Triumph TR6 racing engine, several other TR6 parts
           and special racing parts.
           If somebody can tell me anything about it I would be
           very thankfull when sending me an email to :
                       Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de

            Thank you very, very much   Dieter






--
GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit
gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

From rfdeanes at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 06:39:38 2011
From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:39:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European
 race cars....need submissions!!!]
In-Reply-To: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
References: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimM2V3HfVJYCbFPLTQW+-SmCNrpDnsr2+FLfOak@mail.gmail.com>

These are some good shots of the cars....and flying!

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:04 PM, <rjl6n at cstone.net> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
> some of you might be interested in contacting him
> about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
> your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
> would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
> very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
> for a few years.  They often have some interesting
> cars there.  Please contact Ric at:
>
> <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>
> directly for more details.
>
> John
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
> cars....need submissions!!!
> From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
> Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
> To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Good Morning!
>
> Some F1 pics for you:
> http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
> 0-s-amp-70-s.
>
>
> I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
> September.
>
> I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
> European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
> as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
> could lead us to such cars?
>
> We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
> and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...
>
>
>  Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
> kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
> mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!
>
> Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
> concourse, etc....should be fun!!!
>
> Ric
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Jan 12 07:31:09 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:31:09 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2><478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
	<073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>
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Joe, I'll trade you for a nice condition GT6 Mk 3 body shell for the
engine/car/interior  :-)

I've been using an aluminum bellhousing on my Spit racer for years now
and have had no problem with it (but we're not really testing it with
any, you know, power, either).  I think I paid about $100 for it.

I don't know, however, which version it is (thinner v. thicker).  What
are the differences between the two versions?

Scott B.


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:41 PM
To: 'Norlin Engineering'; 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

I have one that I will let go for $15,000.00.  And I will throw in a
full
race fuel injected 1296 engine, Full synchro 3-Rail OD gearbox and a
beautiful Mk1 Spitfire body complete with interior and soft top.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Norlin Engineering
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:40 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

I did a bunch of research on this about a year ago.  The thinner one is
off
a Herald and from what I was told, is probably not a candidate for a
race
car.  Street car, sure.  I have one and would be willing to part with
it.

The thicker bellhousing is off of an early (very early) Spitfire.  They
are
very difficult to find.  I located one last year and had to give $175
for
it.

New ones are available out of England for around $500.  Spitbits
sometimes
has them in stock.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Jan 12 08:21:52 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:21:52 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Does anyone know anything about this TR 4 / 5 / 6?
In-Reply-To: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
References: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20110112152147.5C75C187650@autox.team.net>

Let's try that again in plain text...

http://picasaweb.google.com/tony.drews.88/DieterTR?authkey=Gv1sRgCNiMwI7_rrqPMA#

Christof from Germany is trying to help a friend find out more info 
about a TR race car that he owns.  The link above is to a couple of 
pictures that he sent me.  Here's the forwarded request:



Dear Triumph friends,

            does anybody know something about this car ?
            ( see pictures )

            I am a Triumph enthusiast for more than 30 years
            and I am racing a TR 4 for about 20 years now.

            And I bought this "TR 250" racer in may 1989 somewhere
            in Los Angeles - since that it was stored in a barn
            at my place in Paderborn / Germany.
            Before restoring it now, I would like to know some
            details of its history.
            Hope there is someone out there in California who
            remembers this special rainbow stripes.
            For several reasons it seems to me that it was never
            used as an ordinary road car.
            It has a TR4 body which was originaly a powderblue one,
            a TR250 / TR6 frame with a Datsun-Nissan 260Z rear axle,
            a Triumph TR6 racing engine, several other TR6 parts
            and special racing parts.
            If somebody can tell me anything about it I would be
            very thankfull when sending me an email to :
                        Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de

             Thank you very, very much   Dieter


Thanks for your attention to this request, Tony Drews

From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Jan 12 09:06:47 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:06:47 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <E5F69447E6864C9E816C0F9ED71FB4C1@Vista>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2><478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
	<073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>
	<3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7401E72E7F@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
	<E5F69447E6864C9E816C0F9ED71FB4C1@Vista>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7401E72E85@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Joe wrote: << The difference in the two housings are obvious when you
put it next to one of the steel ones.  The thicker one appears to be
cast from the same molds
as the steel one. >>

Then I must have the thinner aluminum bellhousing on my Spit racer.
It's a noticeably thinner and lighter casting than the stock cast iron
one.

It hasn't broken yet, even though someone relieved it for the
Stahl-style header at some point in the past (which removes 6-8 inches
of the circumference of the bellhousing and at least one bolt-hole where
the header slides along the side of the engine) and we drilled a
large-ish hole in it to allow clearance for the single-rail style
shifter.  But then, as I said, we're not really pushing any power
through it.  I've used it mostly with the stock-ish 1500cc motors I've
been running.

Am presently knocking on wood and expecting the bellhousing to twist off
as I pull the car on the trailer for the first race weekend of the
year....

Scott B.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:10 AM
To: Barr, Scott
Subject: RE: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

The difference in the two housings are obvious when you put it next to
one
of the steel ones.  The thicker one appears to be cast from the same
molds
as the steel one.  The thin one is much different and is immediately
obvious
to the eye.

Joe.

From rikrock at live.com  Wed Jan 12 15:53:48 2011
From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:53:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
Message-ID: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>

Amici,

Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the wireless
transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club
is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places we
are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be
towed by any of several different trucks.

www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html

Rich Rock

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 12 16:28:04 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:28:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>

 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further
checking








-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


Amici,



Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the wireless

transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club

is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places
we

are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be

towed by any of several different trucks.



www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html



Rich Rock

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From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Jan 12 16:53:13 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:53:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>
References: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
	<8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <7BA8B6043923485DBEE966C89C042B79@Vista>

Iowa is one of the few remaining places in the USA that still makes stuff.
:)

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:28 PM
To: rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Brakes?

 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further
checking








-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


Amici,



Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the
wireless

transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club

is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places
we

are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be

towed by any of several different trucks.



www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html



Rich Rock

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 12 17:19:00 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:19:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <7BA8B6043923485DBEE966C89C042B79@Vista>
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 yes we do!

i love it here....but plan to head south for a week or two.     brrrr.








-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: n197tr4 at cs.com; rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


Iowa is one of the few remaining places in the USA that still makes stuff.

:)



Joe C.



-----Original Message-----

From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On

Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:28 PM

To: rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net

Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Brakes?



 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further

checking

















-----Original Message-----

From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>

To: fot at autox.team.net

Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm

Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?





Amici,







Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the

wireless



transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club



is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places

we



are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be



towed by any of several different trucks.







www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html







Rich Rock



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From chasgee at aol.com  Wed Jan 12 18:07:09 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:07:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 12 18:15:51 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:15:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
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 it is worse in the south when it happens....no infrastructure or equipment to
take care of it or experience to drive in it.










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Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


south isn't much better.  just left Alabama and it was snowing...

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<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: 12-Jan-2011 19:36:28 +0000
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


 yes we do!



i love it here....but plan to head south for a week or two.     brrrr.

















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Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53 pm

Subject: RE: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?





Iowa is one of the few remaining places in the USA that still makes stuff.



:)







Joe C.







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Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com



Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:28 PM



To: rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net



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 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further



checking



































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To: fot at autox.team.net



Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm



Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?











Amici,















Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the



wireless







transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club







is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places



we







are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be







towed by any of several different trucks.















www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html















Rich Rock







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From chasgee at aol.com  Wed Jan 12 18:22:06 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:22:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
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From cwnfot at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 19:41:36 2011
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:41:36 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing photos
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For your discussion.
Here's an album of my transmission collection, which includes at least 3
aluminum bell housings. 2 of one version and 1 of another. I see the
difference as in the style of the ribs. I don't think I have a good shot
showing the thickness of the one removed from the tranny.
http://picasaweb.google.com/cwnicholls/SpitfireTransmissionsAndBH# 
 
Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new
owner
"Reality, it's not what you think."

From rfdeanes at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 10:20:12 2011
From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:20:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: race
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Deanes, Robert <deanesr at uncw.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Subject: FW: race
To: "rfdeanes at gmail.com" <rfdeanes at gmail.com>

Thought some of you may enjoy this short footage that was sent to me, you
may even recognize the TRs in the footage.





*Subject:* race




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDD0tKsFx0k

Check out the road race 1963



-- 
rob deanes
TR Racer

From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jan 13 11:11:14 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:11:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: race
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nice - where have all those old cars gone - too bad they don't get  
brought out to run anymore.  There were, what, six Cobras at a  
Pennsylvania hillclimb?  By 1963 they had only made a few hundred.


On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Robert Deanes wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Deanes, Robert <deanesr at uncw.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Subject: FW: race
To: "rfdeanes at gmail.com" <rfdeanes at gmail.com>

Thought some of you may enjoy this short footage that was sent to me,  
you
may even recognize the TRs in the footage.





*Subject:* race




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDD0tKsFx0k

Check out the road race 1963



-- 
rob deanes
TR Racer
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From norlinengineering at comcast.net  Thu Jan 13 11:40:38 2011
From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:40:38 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing photos
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Message-ID: <03480CE5E5464D48B7F6ECE1F7771C01@TOSHIBALAPTOP>

Good collection of photos.  It appears that the upper photos are of the
thinner Herald Bellhousing and the lower ones are the thicker Spitfire
bellhousing.  Notice the differences in the ribbing.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clark W. Nicholls
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:42 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing photos


For your discussion.
Here's an album of my transmission collection, which includes at least 3
aluminum bell housings. 2 of one version and 1 of another. I see the
difference as in the style of the ribs. I don't think I have a good shot
showing the thickness of the one removed from the tranny.
http://picasaweb.google.com/cwnicholls/SpitfireTransmissionsAndBH# 
 
Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new
owner "Reality, it's not what you think."
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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Fri Jan 14 17:52:11 2011
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:52:11 +1000
Subject: [Fot] chasing GT6 rear uprights
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHzqJrvtWpFrtbyo7ZO4O0v0rccKTKGcu8ZQ08@mail.gmail.com>

does anyone have a pair of MK2 GT6 uprights (hub carriers) they would like
to sell. thanks a lot, Terry O'Beirne, Australia

From gasket.works at gte.net  Mon Jan 17 12:33:43 2011
From: gasket.works at gte.net (gasket.works at gte.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:33:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup 2011
Message-ID: <1061187764-1295292840-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2145938510-@bda715.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Members;

Our Kcup event management group will be meeting this Jan 29 with HMSA directly.  We are hoping to finalize some details. Further information to follow.

Suffice to say that the race track is fast and fun rich with history.  Technically less difficult than Mid Ohio.  The climb up to the Cork Screw seems tougher than it actually is and the drive off the peak is smooth and faster than you want at times.  The weather will be warm and the Monterey peninsula (majestic  sights) very close. 

Stay tuned....

Mordy Dunst for the Kcup group.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 17 14:14:09 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:14:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
Message-ID: <183803.66172.qm@web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
like 
to sell?   let me know.

Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4

From rocky at spitfire4.com  Mon Jan 17 17:17:51 2011
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:17:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
References: <183803.66172.qm@web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DE4323643299481DB237EFF75389BD79@rocky>

I find what you need in the Pegasus catalogue. You'd just need to know your 
thread size into the engine block -- they have several sizes. Under 20 
bucks. Website says "in stock."

Separately they have the remote filter heads for the actual filter.

Go to www.pegasusautoracing.com and type "oil filter adapter" in the keyword 
search.

I also found them in the Summit catalogue (summitracing.com). They're 
talking about Fords and Chevies, but it's the same deal: know your thread 
size into the engine block.

--Rocky Entriken



----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed


> Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
> like
> to sell?   let me know.
>
> Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4
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From adcronin at mi.rr.com  Mon Jan 17 17:32:47 2011
From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:32:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
In-Reply-To: <DE4323643299481DB237EFF75389BD79@rocky>
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	<DE4323643299481DB237EFF75389BD79@rocky>
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You might also try British Frame & Engine---got mine there some while back.
Dan


On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote:

> I find what you need in the Pegasus catalogue. You'd just need to know your
thread size into the engine block -- they have several sizes. Under 20 bucks.
Website says "in stock."
>
> Separately they have the remote filter heads for the actual filter.
>
> Go to www.pegasusautoracing.com and type "oil filter adapter" in the keyword
search.
>
> I also found them in the Summit catalogue (summitracing.com). They're
talking about Fords and Chevies, but it's the same deal: know your thread size
into the engine block.
>
> --Rocky Entriken
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
> To: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:14 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
>
>
>> Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
>> like
>> to sell?   let me know.
>>
>> Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4
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From deweerdm at rogers.com  Mon Jan 17 19:35:33 2011
From: deweerdm at rogers.com (MIKE DEWEERD)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:35:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
Message-ID: <202890.44772.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

m.Go to "Little British Car Company"  on the web and punch in the Moss part
number to see if they have one in stock........usually 10-15% cheaper and they
are in Detroit. No commercial interest  just another part source you might
want to try.Mike 

--- On Tue, 1/18/11, Dan Cronin <adcronin at mi.rr.com> wrote:

From: Dan Cronin <adcronin at mi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
To: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky at spitfire4.com>
Cc: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 12:32 AM

You might also try British Frame & Engine---got mine there some while back.
Dan


On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote:

> I find what you need in the Pegasus catalogue. You'd just need to know your
thread size into the engine block -- they have several sizes. Under 20 bucks.
Website says "in stock."
>
> Separately they have the remote filter heads for the actual filter.
>
> Go to www.pegasusautoracing.com and type "oil filter adapter" in the
keyword
search.
>
> I also found them in the Summit catalogue (summitracing.com). They're
talking about Fords and Chevies, but it's the same deal: know your thread
size
into the engine block.
>
> --Rocky Entriken
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
> To: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:14 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
>
>
>> Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
>> like
>> to sell?   let me know.
>>
>> Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Tue Jan 18 17:40:32 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:40:32 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup 2011
Message-ID: <D3617699-E0D6-4509-BAFE-595EA4E58E4E@aol.com>

Like Mordy said...and don't forget to make your hotel reservations  
asap. The more business we show the hotel management, the more they  
are willing to do some special stuff for us. Here was the original  
notice:

FOT-

We have negotiated a discounted room rate for FOT at the Embassy  
Suites Hotel for the 2011 Kastner Cup. The Embassy Suites is the  
official hotel of Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca (http:// 
www.mazdaraceway.com) and offers close access to both the track and to  
the many attractions of the Monterey Bay area.

A block of rooms has been reserved for FOT members at the rate of  
$155.00/night (plus tax). Rooms are 2-room suites and include daily  
complimentary breakfast and Manager's cocktail reception. For  
additional information, terms and conditions, and to make a  
reservation please visit:

http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/groups/personalized/M/MRYESES-FOT-20110605/index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG
Group Name:	Friends of Triumph
Group Code:	FOT
Check-in:	05-JUN-2011
Check-out:	09-JUN-2011
Hotel Name:	Embassy Suites Monterey Bay - Seaside
Hotel Address:	1441 Canyon Del Rey
  	Seaside, California
  	93955
Phone Number:	831-393-1115

The Embassy Suites management has shown real excitement at the idea of  
hosting our fine group! With a satisfactory number of reservations,  
they have offered to set-up exclusive receptions and to provide  
dedicated parking lot  facilities for us. I encourage you to make your  
reservation as early as possible. Monterey, California is a well known  
resort area so there are many options for accommodations at various  
price levels. A partial listing can be seen at: http://www.mazdaraceway.com/pages/hotels

For those interested in camping sites/RV hook-ups, these are reserved  
through Monterey County Parks (888-588-2267) in campsites located just  
outside of the Raceway, however, reservations will not be taken until  
late January. We are also trying to get information on overnighting at  
the track which is restricted. Please stay tuned for more information  
to follow.

John Frymark

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Jan 18 20:30:47 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:30:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup 2011
In-Reply-To: <D3617699-E0D6-4509-BAFE-595EA4E58E4E@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <8CD85A065CC789A-12BC-816C@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com>

 You guys east of the ROCKIES and more.

What John said........there are a limited number of rooms and we will be
inviting TRIUMPH CLUBS.

Kas and Peg will be ensconced in the EMBASSY SUITES from Sunday to Wednesday,
as well as several other VIP GUESTS.  We may be afforded other amenities and
considerations if we show strength early on......hot breakfast and manager's
cocktail parties are already pretty valuable amenities, but John is working on
more.

There is a 48 hour reservation cancellation, so there is no concern there.

Thanks!  Joe      see John's note again below.









 FOT-We have negotiated a discounted room rate for FOT at the Embassy  Suites
Hotel for the 2011 Kastner Cup. The Embassy Suites is the  official hotel of
Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca (http:// www.mazdaraceway.com) and offers close
access to both the track and to  the many attractions of the Monterey Bay
area.A block of rooms has been reserved for FOT members at the rate of
$155.00/night (plus tax). Rooms are 2-room suites and include daily
complimentary breakfast and Manager's cocktail reception. For  additional
information, terms and conditions, and to make a  reservation please
visit:http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/groups/personalized/M/MRYESES-FOT
-20110605/index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POGGroup Name: Friends of TriumphGroup Code:
FOT


Check-in:   05-JUN-2011

Check-out:  09-JUN-2011

Hotel Name: Embassy Suites Monterey Bay - Seaside

Hotel Address:  1441 Canyon Del Rey

    Seaside, California

    93955

Phone Number:   831-393-1115



The Embassy Suites management has shown real excitement at the idea of

hosting our fine group! With a satisfactory number of reservations,

they have offered to set-up exclusive receptions and to provide

dedicated parking lot  facilities for us. I encourage you to make your

reservation as early as possible. Monterey, California is a well known

resort area so there are many options for accommodations at various

price levels. A partial listing can be seen at:
http://www.mazdaraceway.com/pages/hotels



For those interested in camping sites/RV hook-ups, these are reserved

through Monterey County Parks (888-588-2267) in campsites located just

outside of the Raceway, however, reservations will not be taken until

late January. We are also trying to get information on overnighting at

the track which is restricted. Please stay tuned for more information

to follow.



John Frymark

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From N197TR4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 19 11:56:22 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:56:22 EST
Subject: [Fot] 2011 LAGUNA SECA    KASTNER CUP SERIES #9   ANY QUESTIONS?
Message-ID: <114a9b.2664d311.3a688dd6@cs.com>

FOT,

The Kastner Cup Committee is scheduled to meet on the 29th of January. The 
meeting will include the owner of  HMSA.

I assume there are questions from the FOT. This would be a good time to ask 
them.

Send to me and I will summarize and submit to the KCUP Committee for their 
review on the 29th.

If your status has changed with regard to attendance or entry, please let 
me know and we will update the list of entrants and guests.

NOTE:  VARA is offering a special package to those who wish to run their 
event at Button Willow, the weekend prior to Laguna Seca.  This involves both 
reduced cost of entry and reduced track time.  This makes an excelllent 
opportunity to run another track, get some test and tune time in, and experience 
the camaraderie of the FOT. The option of running up the coast line in 
sight of the Pacific Ocean is a wonderful idea.

Regards,

Joe Alexander</HTML>

From trmarty at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 23 07:58:49 2011
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:58:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Cam Question
Message-ID: <BLU156-w39545ADE22E552C441FBEBBAFA0@phx.gbl>

I'm in the process of tearing down the 1296 spit engine. Camshaft is
identified as a K5729 REED. Anybody running this cam and have a spec sheet
stuck in a drawer?

Thanks,
Marty

From chasgee at aol.com  Sun Jan 23 12:14:38 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:14:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] DCOE Weber and Cannon manifold for Spitfire
Message-ID: <8CD8948EA1AEAB8-1230-2A33C@webmail-m100.sysops.aol.com>

Hi All,

I have a 40 DCOE Weber/Cannon manifold set, ready to bolt on a 1300 or 1500
Spitfire.  Anyone interested?  $400 plus shipping.  Let me know.

Thanks,

Chuck Gee

From tr4.tony at virgin.net  Sun Jan 23 12:50:08 2011
From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (tr4.tony e-mail)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:50:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Lawrencetune Rocker Cover and Weber Manifolds
Message-ID: <AANLkTimHwofvdtxBfMzT32qd5XgXWbDdE8S_3_A2Fe3s@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

Ive got a NOS Lawrencetune alloy rocker cover and a pair of the marked weber
manifolds which I wont use now - Ive put them on ebay uk but if any listers
are interested email me at tr4.tony at virgin.net and they are yours minus the
ebay fee! Both items are new an unused, and ive just had them machined up on
a good 511695 head, so all thats needed is the internal port matching etc.
etc.

Just sent the other set of manifolds by DHL to the US for #30, so this is
the cheapest way as the post prices from the UK here are getting crazy so
beware !

Regards and best to all

Tony

From N197TR4 at cs.com  Sun Jan 23 13:54:28 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:54:28 EST
Subject: [Fot] LAGUNA SECA   7-8 JUNE 2011   KASTNER CUP SERIES #9
Message-ID: <d21a3.6a1e5031.3a6def84@cs.com>

Some musings and information:

I am looking forward to running Laguna Seca.  This is to be a family event 
with my sons running the TR4.   Once in a lifetime opportunity for many of 
us.

Our KCUP committee is having a planning meeting on the 29th of January and 
it will include Cris Vandagriff of HMSA.  There should be a lot of 
information that comes out of this meeting. 

It's a long tow for many of us, but I know that there are already 
reservations in place from Ohio and Texas. Hope to see many folks there.  We also 
have some very special guests that have reservations made for travel and 
lodging. This includes folks from the UK and Ohio.

At least one FOT plans to run the VARA event the weekend prior, at Button 
Willow. I am sure there are more.  

I got a call on Friday from one of the Co-Chairs of the BUTTON WILLOW 
British Extravaganza and they will be extending a special invitation to the FOT. 
The VARA Board of Directors will be meeting early February. On the agenda is 
how they make their event very attractive to us FOT folks with long tows 
from the east. We should hear about their plans very quickly following their 
board meeting.

I suspect Kas & Peg will be stopping off at Button Willow enroute to Laguna 
Seca, too. This seems like an great opportunity for a FOT Pre-Party 
followed by a trip up the Pacific Coast Highway past the Hearst Castle and Big Sur.

Those coming in from the north will likely stop off at Infineon for the 
CSRG event. Always good to have choices.

See you there.

Joe Alexander</HTML>

From horizonracing at msn.com  Sun Jan 23 14:53:35 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:53:35 -0800
Subject: [Fot] LAGUNA SECA   7-8 JUNE 2011   KASTNER CUP SERIES #9
In-Reply-To: <d21a3.6a1e5031.3a6def84@cs.com>
References: <d21a3.6a1e5031.3a6def84@cs.com>
Message-ID: <SNT141-w23C2274ABE71FAE8920DDEB2FA0@phx.gbl>

Joe,
Just to Clarify , The Infineon event is a" General Racing inc" event, not
CSRG. I know that Jeff Quick has been invited to attend with his TR4A. This
event has a couple a different feature cars this year. McLaren (I heard Bobby
Rahal is in a ex BMMR factory M8D), 50's sports cars and 50's front engine
Grand prix cars . Something like 375/400 cars.

Thank you
Tony

> From: N197TR4 at cs.com
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:54:28 -0500
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] LAGUNA SECA 7-8 JUNE 2011 KASTNER CUP SERIES #9
>
> Some musings and information:
>
> I am looking forward to running Laguna Seca. This is to be a family event
> with my sons running the TR4. Once in a lifetime opportunity for many of
> us.
>
> Our KCUP committee is having a planning meeting on the 29th of January and
> it will include Cris Vandagriff of HMSA. There should be a lot of
> information that comes out of this meeting.
>
> It's a long tow for many of us, but I know that there are already
> reservations in place from Ohio and Texas. Hope to see many folks there. We
also
> have some very special guests that have reservations made for travel and
> lodging. This includes folks from the UK and Ohio.
>
> At least one FOT plans to run the VARA event the weekend prior, at Button
> Willow. I am sure there are more.
>
> I got a call on Friday from one of the Co-Chairs of the BUTTON WILLOW
> British Extravaganza and they will be extending a special invitation to the
FOT.
> The VARA Board of Directors will be meeting early February. On the agenda is
> how they make their event very attractive to us FOT folks with long tows
> from the east. We should hear about their plans very quickly following their
> board meeting.
>
> I suspect Kas & Peg will be stopping off at Button Willow enroute to Laguna
> Seca, too. This seems like an great opportunity for a FOT Pre-Party
> followed by a trip up the Pacific Coast Highway past the Hearst Castle and
Big Sur.
>
> Those coming in from the north will likely stop off at Infineon for the
> CSRG event. Always good to have choices.
>
> See you there.
>
> Joe Alexander</HTML>
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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Sun Jan 23 14:53:43 2011
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:53:43 +1000
Subject: [Fot] floods in australia
Message-ID: <AANLkTimibPz1kzmuDM2Qmfd4x+f-SWYKPhrVHrnmoKyD@mail.gmail.com>

many thanks to all the FOT'ers who emailed us about the floods. we are in
Ipswich where the worst flooding occurred, but thankfully home and cars are
high & dry, and we are all safe. unfortunately our chassis dyno
was completely submerged along with numerous cars etc at our son-in-laws
workshop. numerous people have however lost their lives and/or livelihood.
To give you an idea of the scale of the problem, 80% of the state of
Queensland has been declared a disaster area. Whilst sparsely populated, it
is many times the size of most US States and I'm told equal to France &
Germany combined. About 30,000 homes & businesses are directly affected,
 with many seriously. Some washed away, some completely submerged. Other
areas are now bracing for similar flooding due to the combination of
never-seen rainfall, dams already full and regular king tides making
drainage to sea more difficult.
For the past 2 weeks, most locals have been brooming mud out of house,
stripping plaster walls, re-wiring  etc. In some near-river suburbs, the
entire contents of hundreds of homes has been stripped and dumped. its all a
bit heartbreaking.

Terry O'Beirne

From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Mon Jan 24 13:28:26 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:28:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
Message-ID: <000001cbbc05$42f6f3d0$c8e4db70$@com>

I just got my copy of the March issue of Classic Motorsports and there is a
news release on Pg. 106 about new Nitrophyl floats for the SU H6 carbs from
Joe Curto Inc..  I had procrastinated on trying to duplicate the aluminum
ones that Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer had made and am glad I did so.  I
just ordered 2 of the floats for our H6 carbs on the 1961 TR4 race car from
Joe for $22.50 each.  Seems like a bargain for floats that won't leak.
The Nitrophyl is "a foamlike elastomer that's resistant to modern fuels,
including ethanol" according to the press release.  We'll try them out this
summer.  I was starting to run out of the brass floats that didn't leak.

 

No commercial interest.

 

Tim Murphy

From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 24 14:40:41 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:40:41 EST
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
Message-ID: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/24/2011 2:49:57 PM Central Standard Time, 
timmurph at fastbytes.com writes:


> I just got my copy of the March issue of Classic Motorsports and there is 
> a
> news release on Pg. 106 about new Nitrophyl floats for the SU H6 carbs 
> from
> Joe Curto Inc..  I had procrastinated on trying to duplicate the aluminum
> ones that Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer had made and am glad I did so.  I
> just ordered 2 of the floats for our H6 carbs on the 1961 TR4 race car 
> from
> Joe for $22.50 each.  Seems like a bargain for floats that won't leak.
> The Nitrophyl is "a foamlike elastomer that's resistant to modern fuels,
> including ethanol" according to the press release.  We'll try them out 
> this
> summer.  I was starting to run out of the brass floats that didn't leak.
> 
> 

Where the hell did you find brass floats that didn't leak?

Bill (Damdinger)

From tlizzard at msn.com  Mon Jan 24 15:10:55 2011
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:10:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
In-Reply-To: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
References: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds17C56929182E13E312BE8BC3FD0@phx.gbl>

  Where the hell did you find brass floats that didn't leak?

  Bill (Damdinger)

  There is no such thing anymore!  They all leak.

  Terry Stetler

From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Mon Jan 24 16:04:20 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:04:20 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
In-Reply-To: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
References: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000601cbbc1b$08f08370$1ad18a50$@com>

Okay, let me rephrase that.  I'm starting to run out of brass floats that
don't leak yet!

 

From: BillDentin at aol.com [mailto:BillDentin at aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:41 PM
To: timmurph at fastbytes.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto

 

In a message dated 01/24/2011 2:49:57 PM Central Standard Time,
timmurph at fastbytes.com writes:





I just got my copy of the March issue of Classic Motorsports and there is a
news release on Pg. 106 about new Nitrophyl floats for the SU H6 carbs from
Joe Curto Inc..  I had procrastinated on trying to duplicate the aluminum
ones that Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer had made and am glad I did so.  I
just ordered 2 of the floats for our H6 carbs on the 1961 TR4 race car from
Joe for $22.50 each.  Seems like a bargain for floats that won't leak.
The Nitrophyl is "a foamlike elastomer that's resistant to modern fuels,
including ethanol" according to the press release.  We'll try them out this
summer.  I was starting to run out of the brass floats that didn't leak.



Where the hell did you find brass floats that didn't leak?

Bill (Damdinger)

From billdentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 24 16:53:44 2011
From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:53:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
In-Reply-To: <69ECC61D87804898896B591E08FCA74D@roberta16b8c09>
References: <10958.377d5f65.3a6f4bf3@aol.com>
	<69ECC61D87804898896B591E08FCA74D@roberta16b8c09>
Message-ID: <8CD8A39118B2262-F00-2A68@webmail-m071.sysops.aol.com>

Bob Wismer writes:  Finally......He is about 2 years late for us, but good for
the other TR owners. The solution is what I discussed with Jack Drews and he
passed.........not his thing...Wismer

I think you and Jack knew what the fix was back then, and I remeber Jack
spending 'some' effort on it, but understood him to say the quantities (at
least the numbers he was using) could not attract interests from the people he
contacted.  Time change.  Hooray for our side!.

Bill Dentinger

From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon Jan 24 17:38:43 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:38:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] question about Southwick axle mod
In-Reply-To: <1825764439.1608975.1295902745206.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1099896219.1622898.1295915923824.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hello FoT, 
Has anyone ever noticed the location of the Ford flanges to be offset or not centered on the axle tubes? 
I've talked with Southwick and they said their jig centers and squares to the inner bearing, but I'm curios if others have noticed this. 


Comments appreciated, 
Dave H. 

From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Tue Jan 25 11:51:27 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:51:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Second badge run
Message-ID: <B62535F6-D31F-4401-9C23-A89326633791@aol.com>

Amici
Second run has arrived.  If you have paid for one it will be shipped out soon

Thanks

Chris

From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Jan 25 12:32:53 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:32:53 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Second badge run
References: <B62535F6-D31F-4401-9C23-A89326633791@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D1CCD479397D4C4BBC6E1B9E51A5DFA7@Bud>

Thanks Chris!
Racer Bud
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To: "FoTTriumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Second badge run


> Amici
> Second run has arrived.  If you have paid for one it will be shipped out 
> soon
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Tue Jan 25 20:30:01 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:30:01 GMT
Subject: [Fot] question about Southwick axle mod
Message-ID: <20110125.223001.4860.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

I had not noticed this on the one that I had Southwick make (I did not really
look), but I later had ends welded on another axle using my own jig and
noticed that when centered on the diff bearings the small ford ends were not
perfectly centered on the tubes.  My axle tubes, however, had brackets welded
on them for the 4-link system, which likely warped them.   I also welded the
tubes to the carrier housing and noticed that as I did this the tubes would
shift around.  Do all your welding before having the small ford ends welded
on.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: davehogye <dlhogye at comcast.net>
To: Fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] question about Southwick axle mod
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:38:43 +0000 (UTC)

Hello FoT,
Has anyone ever noticed the location of the Ford flanges to be offset or not
centered on the axle tubes?
I've talked with Southwick and they said their jig centers and squares to the
inner bearing, but I'm curios if others have noticed this.


Comments appreciated,
Dave H.
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From N197TR4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 26 10:56:30 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:56:30 EST
Subject: [Fot] MADMARX VITON SEAL - Need Cores
Message-ID: <423de.68b669b0.3a71ba4e@cs.com>

FOT.......somewhat commercial.

Christian Marx' new seal design has demand outstripping supply.

It seems to be a brilliant design, especially if you do everything right as 
you should, in the final assembly of the engine....see Kas' new book on 
this.

I just received some more of the seals, and expect more in the near future.

Engine builders are ordering multiple units and CORES are slow to come in.  
So we have a bottle neck in delivery. 

At the moment there is no margin on the seals that come to North America 
and we are trying to keep the price low.  We have the hope that if we keep 
supplying, eventually a reasonable margin will come our way. Price may have to 
increase in the future, too.

So:

If you want a MADMARX VITON SEAL KIT please send me your interest and I 
will put you on the Seal Kit Register and will inform you when modified scrolls 
are available.

Some of the FOT have sent me extra OEM Scrolls that they had on the shelf 
with no plans to use.  This gave me a 'float' of 10-15 scrolls, but with the 
demand it is not enough. If you want to support this program, it seems 
worthwhile. Let me know, if you can.

THANKS!

Joe A.

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed Jan 26 15:35:42 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:35:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <589218.10725.qm@smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I would like to nominate Craig Leinicke , a Triumph racer to the group. Here
is a short introduction taken from a couple of Craig's emails. He will add
to the background later.
 
Craig  used to race EP TR3's for years and then  raced a TR7 in IT for 5
years. 
He raced with Triumph national championship drivers Hardy Prentice and Jack
Wheeler in the 1983 SCCA National Runoffs at Road Atlanta. Jack Wheeler and
he were friends at that time and he raced with a few of Jack's cast off
parts.
 Craig is doing some land speed racing  with TR7 .
 His stuff is online at:
 <http://www.flashbackracing.com> http://www.flashbackracing.com 
 
Very interesting guy and I'm sure will fit right in with the group.
 
Paul MacDonald
 
Can't have too many Wedge racers in the group..... 

From budscars at comcast.net  Wed Jan 26 16:40:22 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:40:22 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [TTSCC] Fw: HELP WITH HISTORY OF MY RACECAR. [1
	Attachment]
Message-ID: <C8A536BCBFDB4C76A5847F0C38F41F2F@Bud>

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Hi Gang...I'm trying to put together some history of my Spitfire Racecar...The
dark blue #21 that I race with CSRG...The photos are how the car was raced in
the San Francisco Region SCCA.

SCCA solo 1 from 1977 through 1981 by Bill Gee(William George Gee)(Monterey,
Ca. area)
SCCA Regionals and Solo 1 1985 and 1986 by Ron Jardine(San Jose, CA. area).

The car was given to Triumphs Only in San Jose(now Stockton) in 1996...and was
rescued in 1997..
Any help will be appreciated.
scroll down for the link to photos
Thanks!
Racer Bud




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From budscars at comcast.net  Wed Jan 26 18:07:31 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:07:31 -0800
Subject: [Fot] SPITFIRE HISTORY
Message-ID: <4F690B7370C84DAAB47AE45272E6C614@Bud>

Hi Gang....I found the original owner/racer...of my Spitfire through Triumph
Travelers..

From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan 26 19:10:50 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:10:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
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Land speed racing in a TR7?, very cool. Let me be the first to second  
that.

Jim g


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:35 PM, "macdonaldp" <macdonaldp at rogers.com> wrote:

> I would like to nominate Craig Leinicke , a Triumph racer to the  
> group. Here
> is a short introduction taken from a couple of Craig's emails. He  
> will add
> to the background later.
>
> Craig  used to race EP TR3's for years and then  raced a TR7 in IT  
> for 5
> years.
> He raced with Triumph national championship drivers Hardy Prentice  
> and Jack
> Wheeler in the 1983 SCCA National Runoffs at Road Atlanta. Jack  
> Wheeler and
> he were friends at that time and he raced with a few of Jack's cast  
> off
> parts.
> Craig is doing some land speed racing  with TR7 .
> His stuff is online at:
> <http://www.flashbackracing.com> http://www.flashbackracing.com
>
> Very interesting guy and I'm sure will fit right in with the group.
>
> Paul MacDonald
>
> Can't have too many Wedge racers in the group.....
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From igofaster at att.net  Wed Jan 26 20:23:15 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:23:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
Message-ID: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane? I've 
rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe Curto 
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration 
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings. 


Bobby Whitehead 

From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Jan 26 21:02:09 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:02:09 -0600
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
In-Reply-To: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110127040206.AF47C187643@autox.team.net>

It's possible, but mine have worked fine since 2003 with leaded 110 
octane.  It's the Oxygen sensors that the leaded gas kills.

- Tony

At 09:23 PM 1/26/2011, Bobby Whitehead wrote:
>Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 
>octane? I've
>rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt 
>Joe Curto
>carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration
>between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings.
>
>
>Bobby Whitehead

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 27 01:20:41 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:20:41 +0100
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
In-Reply-To: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601cbbdfb$17a3c1c0$46eb4540$@com>

Bosch says about < 20,000 km with 0,6 g Pb/Liter.

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Betreff: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane?
I've
rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe
Curto
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low
registration
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings.


Bobby Whitehead
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 27 07:54:33 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:54:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
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I have had the reading differently right out of the box. That is why I use three 
of them (with a rotary switch) and swap them around to verify the bad ones.
Mike
#28 EP TR6




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From: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
To: FoT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 9:23:15 PM
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane? I've 

rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe Curto 
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration 
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings. 


Bobby Whitehead 
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From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Thu Jan 27 17:54:56 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:54:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Moss Quick Rack for TR4
Message-ID: <4D4213E0.2030208@blacksburg.net>

Folks,
Moss has their quick rack on sale, something over which I've lusted for 
years, but it's for late-model TR4s (after CT20000).  Has anyone tried 
to install it in an earlier car?

TIA

jim

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99% finished, 90% to go

From jaboruch at netzero.net  Thu Jan 27 18:48:01 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:48:01 GMT
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
Message-ID: <20110127.204801.9610.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

The lead should not be an issue, but like anything they can go bad.  Make sure
that the wire connections are all clean.  It would not take much corrosion to
change the readings.  Only use the original connections and wires.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
To: FoT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:23:15 -0800 (PST)

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane?
I've
rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe
Curto
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings.


Bobby Whitehead
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Fri Jan 28 02:57:41 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:57:41 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
Message-ID: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>

Amici,

Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US. 

I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but
there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc

Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail order
vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?

Thank you !

Cheers!

Alex

(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Jan 28 07:55:24 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:55:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <8CD8D1282914B8D-156C-5254@webmail-stg-m05.sysops.aol.com>

 there are a number of suppliers on the FOT list.

i'd like to think that the contributions trump the commercial aspects.

they should reveal themselves to you...if i try i will miss someone.










-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 3:57 am
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers


Amici,



Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to

order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.



I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but

there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc



Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail order

vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?



Thank you !



Cheers!



Alex



(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jan 28 09:20:27 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:20:27 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>

Here's a few

http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ - Triumph speed parts - Ken 
Gillanders is a great guy and I like to support him
http://www.tildentechnologies.com/ - "Larry Cam" for the TR-2 to 4
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ - Triumph parts - I buy my "tri-metal" 
bearings, payen gaskets and the rear lip seal here - good prices
http://www.mossmotors.com/ - Triumph parts
http://www.goodparts.com/ - TR-6 parts, many performance upgrades
The last 3 all carry my heavy duty front axle kit

Non-Triumph
http://www.Jegs.com - general speed parts, similar to Summit
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ - Weber parts
http://joecurto.com/ - SU carb parts, rebuild, etc
http://www.applehydraulics.com/index.htm - Lever shocks
http://carshopinc.com/ - local speed shop, GREAT prices on many 
things, extensive online catalog - helps if you know the part number you want

- Tony Drews


At 03:57 AM 1/28/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Amici,
>
>Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
>order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>
>I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but
>there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>
>Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail order
>vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>
>Thank you !
>
>Cheers!
>
>Alex
>
>(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
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From andre at gt6.ca  Fri Jan 28 09:57:03 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:57:03 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
	<20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiny3Q1OzAhwmFQXba2yJP_Bm7KgCciybELto4kk@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/

On 28 January 2011 11:20, Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote:
> Here's a few
>
> http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ - Triumph speed parts - Ken
Gillanders
> is a great guy and I like to support him
> http://www.tildentechnologies.com/ - "Larry Cam" for the TR-2 to 4
> http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ - Triumph parts - I buy my "tri-metal"
bearings,
> payen gaskets and the rear lip seal here - good prices
> http://www.mossmotors.com/ - Triumph parts
> http://www.goodparts.com/ - TR-6 parts, many performance upgrades
> The last 3 all carry my heavy duty front axle kit
>
> Non-Triumph
> http://www.Jegs.com - general speed parts, similar to Summit
> http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ - Weber parts
> http://joecurto.com/ - SU carb parts, rebuild, etc
> http://www.applehydraulics.com/index.htm - Lever shocks
> http://carshopinc.com/ - local speed shop, GREAT prices on many things,
> extensive online catalog - helps if you know the part number you want
>
> - Tony Drews
>
>
> At 03:57 AM 1/28/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>>
>> Amici,
>>
>> Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
>> order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>>
>> I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com,
>> but
>> there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>>
>> Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail
>> order
>> vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>>
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> (TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Jan 28 10:08:00 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:08:00 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
	<20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <51BFBB47467544FFB01157876EF3C31B@Vista>

Don't forget that I am selling camber compensators for early Spits, Heralds
and Mk1 GT6's.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:20 AM
To: Alexandre Camoletti; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Race parts suppliers

Here's a few

http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ - Triumph speed parts - Ken 
Gillanders is a great guy and I like to support him
http://www.tildentechnologies.com/ - "Larry Cam" for the TR-2 to 4
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ - Triumph parts - I buy my "tri-metal" 
bearings, payen gaskets and the rear lip seal here - good prices
http://www.mossmotors.com/ - Triumph parts
http://www.goodparts.com/ - TR-6 parts, many performance upgrades
The last 3 all carry my heavy duty front axle kit

Non-Triumph
http://www.Jegs.com - general speed parts, similar to Summit
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ - Weber parts
http://joecurto.com/ - SU carb parts, rebuild, etc
http://www.applehydraulics.com/index.htm - Lever shocks
http://carshopinc.com/ - local speed shop, GREAT prices on many 
things, extensive online catalog - helps if you know the part number you
want

- Tony Drews


At 03:57 AM 1/28/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Amici,
>
>Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
>order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>
>I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but
>there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>
>Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail
order
>vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>
>Thank you !
>
>Cheers!
>
>Alex
>
>(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
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From riverside at southslope.net  Fri Jan 28 16:01:17 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:01:17 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spit  valves
Message-ID: <587762AE3C3D41A19274C1FF05A4BD14@rileyPC>

Does anybody have some wisdom to share regarding installing
larger  valves in Spit 1500 heads.   Building a fairly stout
autoX engine with probably about 270 cam, 9:1 or
so compression, header,  two 40 DCOEbs.

Thanks!!

art de armond

From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Jan 28 17:52:43 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:52:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spit  valves
In-Reply-To: <587762AE3C3D41A19274C1FF05A4BD14@rileyPC>
References: <587762AE3C3D41A19274C1FF05A4BD14@rileyPC>
Message-ID: <FB2BA0305F594B8E8053411ED5876E4F@Vista>

There were a couple if years in the mid 70's where the 1500 heads came with
larger exhaust valves.  My recommendation is to start with one of these.  It
minimizes the complications.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of riverside at southslope.net
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 4:01 PM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spit valves

Does anybody have some wisdom to share regarding installing
larger  valves in Spit 1500 heads.   Building a fairly stout
autoX engine with probably about 270 cam, 9:1 or
so compression, header,  two 40 DCOEbs.

Thanks!!

art de armond
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Sat Jan 29 06:31:38 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (dos_gusanos at msn.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:31:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
Message-ID: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>

Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6.
does Moss sell suitable material?   Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque

From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sat Jan 29 09:05:39 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:05:39 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
References: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AF29C5EC55054182B76228487C24EEBF@desktop>

I buy mine from British Parts NW.  They have 3 grades of bearings.
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/cat/TR250-TR6--Main%20Engine%20Components
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

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Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:31 AM
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings


> Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the 
> TR6.
> does Moss sell suitable material?   Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque
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From vintage.racer at comcast.net  Sat Jan 29 09:12:21 2011
From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:12:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <269435184.1152664.1296317541125.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Henry: 

You can try Basil Adams up here in N.CA., he has a supply of NOS Vandervell bearings. I've purchased sets from him in the past, nice fellow to deal with. Contact at (707)762-0974 or basiladams at yahoo.com. 

Gary 

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Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:31:38 AM 
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings 

Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6. 
does Moss sell suitable material? Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque 
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sat Jan 29 09:21:41 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:21:41 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
Message-ID: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF, BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Sat Jan 29 09:34:31 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:34:31 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000601cbbfd2$69399590$3bacc0b0$@com>

British Parts NW is where I've gotten the bearings for the TR4 race car.  I
get the "tri-metal" bearings. I'm not sure what the additional cost is over
the "bi-metal" ones but for the work to replace the bearings the incremental
cost would seem worth it.  They are the "King" "County" bearings made in
Israel.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of dos_gusanos at msn.com
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:32 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings

Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6.
does Moss sell suitable material?   Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Jan 29 09:42:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:42:35 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
In-Reply-To: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <000501cbbfd3$8a2a6530$9e7f2f90$@com>

I combined the TR4 version with the later ones:
I just flipped around these o-rings from the TR4 to seal it.

Cheers
Chris

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Auftrag von Charly Mitchel
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Januar 2011 17:22
An: Friends
Betreff: [Fot] Trunion seals

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a
flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone
arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF,
BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Jan 29 09:58:09 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:58:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
In-Reply-To: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <CBB5F17F1BA94BE88EF176827756EE96@Vista>

BPNW has it listed for $22.00 per side.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:22 AM
To: Friends
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a
flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone
arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF,
BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Jan 29 10:04:40 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:04:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
In-Reply-To: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <4E66069787CE44B39FBC6AD798F88650@Vista>

660-998  $89.95  MAJOR SUSPENSION KIT (repairs both sides) 

The parts are contained in the above kit from Moss.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:22 AM
To: Friends
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a
flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone
arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF,
BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sat Jan 29 11:37:17 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:37:17 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <BABE17DFEF294475A7FB1F8AB585A1C0@desktop>

Yes I've seen all the kits that the local parts guys sell and they all 
include the cup, flat and O ring in them.  The others are the lower inner 
kit.  What I'm looking for is a solid simple bushing set for the pivot of 
the lower a arms to the trunion.  It seems someone should make one out of 
nylatron or delrin.  Maybe the way to go is make it out of brass.
Any thoughts about that?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

if you look at the description of these or the illustration, they all have 
the numerous parts in them and none contain the simple bushing.
BPNW has it listed for $22.00 per side.
660-998  $89.95  MAJOR SUSPENSION KIT (repairs both sides)
http://www.zeni.net/trf/TR6bluebook/112.php






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
To: "Friends" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals


> Good day all,
> I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and 
> for
> the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
> parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a 
> flat
> washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone 
> arm.
> The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a 
> trunion
> bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF, 
> BPNW
> etc.
> Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's 
> and
> Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your 
> racecars?
>
> Charly Mitchel
> TR6 #44
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Sat Jan 29 15:16:35 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:16:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Moss Quick Rack for TR4 - the answer from Moss
Message-ID: <4D4491C3.1020007@blacksburg.net>

I asked about installing Moss' "quick rack" in an early TR4 (different 
rack mounting configuration than later cars).  Here's Moss Tech 
Support's answer:

The term "horizontal mount" refers to the orientation of the U-bolt, not to
the position of the mount itself. The crux is of the interchangeability
issue, is the way these different racks mount, and therefore the specific
design of the rack housing with regards to the mounting. The housing of the
later rack has cast parts which interfere with the early-style mounting
system, and is also missing parts which are necessary for the early-style
mounting system.

So until we can come up with a different design, sorry, you're out of luck.

I've been told by a reliable wrencher that mounting brackets can be 
fabricated, so removing the earlier "ears" and welding the new brackets 
is a possible recourse.

hth

jim

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go



-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go

From barry at penybryn.ca  Sat Jan 29 15:51:22 2011
From: barry at penybryn.ca (Barry Munson)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:51:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT Patches
Message-ID: <000601cbc007$0f305180$2d90f480$@ca>

Amici - I have received a small shipment of the FOT coat of arms embroidered
on an oval background patch, measuring 3 in. X 2 in.. These patches are
identical to the badges that Chris is offering because they are based on the
art work and setup that he provided - thanks to Chris for agreeing to share
this. 

To keep things as simple as possible ( for this kind of endeavour both in
terms of volume, location and cost paypal will not work for me up here in
Canada) any member who would like one (or more) of these patches simply put
$5.00 (cash or cheque) for the first one and $3.00 for any additional ones
into an envelope and send it to me at the following address:

 

Barry Munson

52028 Range Road 224,

Sherwood Park, Alberta,

Canada

T8C 1B7

 

Include your return address and e-mail address and I will mail your patch
the same day and send you an e-mail confirmation.

 

The above costs are based on actual costs with absolutely no mark up or
margin added as this is definitely not a commercial endeavour - the patches
cost $3.00 each and mailing from here is approximately $2.00.

 

As I have no idea what the demand may be I have kept the initial production
run quite small so please bear with me if demand outstrips supply there may
be a slight delay as another production run is ordered.

 

If you have any questions please send me a note.

 

Thanks.

Barry.

From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Jan 29 17:21:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:21:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT Patches
In-Reply-To: <000601cbc007$0f305180$2d90f480$@ca>
References: <000601cbc007$0f305180$2d90f480$@ca>
Message-ID: <697A04AE-B399-4E6F-81FC-A96B4AA9E0E2@aol.com>

Amici,
I have personally seen these patches. Quality looks good to me. Price is
excellent!  This is a great addition to your drivers suit! I can't wait to
finish my car and put the badge on the car and the patch on my suit.  Only
question I have is where do I put the patch on my suit?


Chris

On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:51 PM, "Barry Munson" <barry at penybryn.ca> wrote:

> Amici - I have received a small shipment of the FOT coat of arms
embroidered
> on an oval background patch, measuring 3 in. X 2 in.. These patches are
> identical to the badges that Chris is offering because they are based on
the
> art work and setup that he provided - thanks to Chris for agreeing to share
> this.
>
> To keep things as simple as possible ( for this kind of endeavour both in
> terms of volume, location and cost paypal will not work for me up here in
> Canada) any member who would like one (or more) of these patches simply put
> $5.00 (cash or cheque) for the first one and $3.00 for any additional ones
> into an envelope and send it to me at the following address:
>
>
>
> Barry Munson
>
> 52028 Range Road 224,
>
> Sherwood Park, Alberta,
>
> Canada
>
> T8C 1B7
>
>
>
> Include your return address and e-mail address and I will mail your patch
> the same day and send you an e-mail confirmation.
>
>
>
> The above costs are based on actual costs with absolutely no mark up or
> margin added as this is definitely not a commercial endeavour - the patches
> cost $3.00 each and mailing from here is approximately $2.00.
>
>
>
> As I have no idea what the demand may be I have kept the initial production
> run quite small so please bear with me if demand outstrips supply there may
> be a slight delay as another production run is ordered.
>
>
>
> If you have any questions please send me a note.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Barry.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Sat Jan 29 17:21:56 2011
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:21:56 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <3548AF05F1FC4837B4625A036A636FD3@rocky>

Of course a lot of "race parts" are simply stock parts. Your brake pads may 
be trick, but they go in stock calipers, etc. And so...

www.tsimportedautomotive.com - that's Ted Schumacher, a member of this list. 
He's in Ohio
www.the-roadster-factory.com - Pennsylvania
www.victoriabritish.com - Kansas City

Other general speed stuff:
www.speedwaymotors.com - Lincoln, Neb - on a par with Summit and Jeg's - 
calls itself "America's Oldest Speed Shop"

And sometimes I shop on your side of the pond:
www.canleyclassics.com - Warwickshire - I've found stuff there unobtainable 
here, like 4:55 ring & pinion sets for my Spitfire.

--Rocky Entriken


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexandre Camoletti" <ac at camoletti.ch>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:57 AM
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers


> Amici,
>
> Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
> order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>
> I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, 
> but
> there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>
> Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail 
> order
> vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>
> Thank you !
>
> Cheers!
>
> Alex
>
> (TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Sun Jan 30 07:19:19 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (dos_gusanos at msn.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:19:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <000601cbbfd2$69399590$3bacc0b0$@com>
References: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>,
	<000601cbbfd2$69399590$3bacc0b0$@com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-w763D4A3131D6BF86BE45F90E30@phx.gbl>

Good Morning, Thanks to all for all the replies.  As usual the folks on the
list come through again with great information,  and the parts I need at a
great deal.  I guess I should just post everything I need for the
rebuild..................Cheers, Henry Morrison, TR4,6,7,  Albuquerque, NM
>
> Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6.
> does Moss sell suitable material? Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 10:27:58 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:27:58 EST
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
Message-ID: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>

Amici...

I've not watched it yet, but...

My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw this 
DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought 
it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin (tsk) wants 
to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does business 
at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver, he'll do 
whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all of he 
relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But as Jay 
works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes face 
to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to assume 
this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the moviemaking 
ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig Ziglar, 
a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are 
interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there.  Produced by 
Sherwood Pictures.

I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting 
too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax video 
tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also 
found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to get some of 
them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good 
condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not found many in 
car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE 
compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these days.  In 
addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and heavier than 
a car battery.  Great fun & memories.

Bill Dentinger

From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 30 11:31:18 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:31:18 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
In-Reply-To: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E134265B-4AF9-4E0F-ACDB-6FD68B050434@earthlink.net>

http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel-DVD-2007_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ62333947


http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ64427678



~Steve

On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:

Amici...

I've not watched it yet, but...

My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw  
this
DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought
it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin  
(tsk) wants
to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does  
business
at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver,  
he'll do
whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all  
of he
relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But  
as Jay
works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes  
face
to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to  
assume
this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the  
moviemaking
ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig  
Ziglar,
a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are
interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there.   
Produced by
Sherwood Pictures.

I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting
too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax  
video
tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also
found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to  
get some of
them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good
condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not  
found many in
car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE
compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these  
days.  In
addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and  
heavier than
a car battery.  Great fun & memories.

Bill Dentinger
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From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Jan 30 12:33:35 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:33:35 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
	<E134265B-4AF9-4E0F-ACDB-6FD68B050434@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <80FB77A46F11491A93C246996CBB9A1A@Bud>

The publisher, Thomas Nelson, is a religious book publisher..
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Belfer" <colordog.1 at earthlink.net>
To: <BillDentin at aol.com>
Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...


> http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel-DVD-2007_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ62333947
>
>
> http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ64427678
>
>
>
> ~Steve
>
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>
> Amici...
>
> I've not watched it yet, but...
>
> My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw 
> this
> DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought
> it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin  (tsk) 
> wants
> to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does 
> business
> at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver,  he'll 
> do
> whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all  of 
> he
> relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But  as 
> Jay
> works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes 
> face
> to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to  assume
> this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the 
> moviemaking
> ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig 
> Ziglar,
> a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are
> interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there. 
> Produced by
> Sherwood Pictures.
>
> I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting
> too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax 
> video
> tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also
> found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to  get 
> some of
> them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good
> condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not  found 
> many in
> car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE
> compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these  days. 
> In
> addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and  heavier 
> than
> a car battery.  Great fun & memories.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Jan 30 12:38:25 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:38:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
In-Reply-To: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD8ECC65628191-10A0-11B9A@webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com>

 independent film produced by church group.

it gained some traction in sales and went beyond 100,000, i believe.

not as compelling in story line as some but the message doesnt beat you up.

the cover shows the WHITE TR3A like mine and I bought it as a collectible.

joe a








-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin at aol.com
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 11:27 am
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...


Amici...



I've not watched it yet, but...



My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw this

DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought

it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin (tsk) wants

to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does business

at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver, he'll do

whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all of he

relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But as Jay

works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes face

to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to assume

this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the moviemaking

ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig Ziglar,

a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are

interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there.  Produced

by

Sherwood Pictures.



I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting

too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax video

tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also

found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to get some
of

them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good

condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not found many

in

car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE

compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these days.  In

addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and heavier than

a car battery.  Great fun & memories.



Bill Dentinger

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From kaskas at cox.net  Sun Jan 30 12:38:56 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:38:56 -0800
Subject: [Fot] FOT Patches
In-Reply-To: <697A04AE-B399-4E6F-81FC-A96B4AA9E0E2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110130143856.28MDY.1016240.imail@fed1rmwml37>

Over your heart, of course.-


--- Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com> wrote: 

=============
Amici,
I have personally seen these patches. Quality looks good to me. Price is
excellent!  This is a great addition to your drivers suit! I can't wait to
finish my car and put the badge on the car and the patch on my suit.  Only
question I have is where do I put the patch on my suit?


Chris

On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:51 PM, "Barry Munson" <barry at penybryn.ca> wrote:

> Amici - I have received a small shipment of the FOT coat of arms
embroidered
> on an oval background patch, measuring 3 in. X 2 in.. These patches are
> identical to the badges that Chris is offering because they are based on
the
> art work and setup that he provided - thanks to Chris for agreeing to share
> this.
>
> To keep things as simple as possible ( for this kind of endeavour both in
> terms of volume, location and cost paypal will not work for me up here in
> Canada) any member who would like one (or more) of these patches simply put
> $5.00 (cash or cheque) for the first one and $3.00 for any additional ones
> into an envelope and send it to me at the following address:
>
>
>
> Barry Munson
>
> 52028 Range Road 224,
>
> Sherwood Park, Alberta,
>
> Canada
>
> T8C 1B7
>
>
>
> Include your return address and e-mail address and I will mail your patch
> the same day and send you an e-mail confirmation.
>
>
>
> The above costs are based on actual costs with absolutely no mark up or
> margin added as this is definitely not a commercial endeavour - the patches
> cost $3.00 each and mailing from here is approximately $2.00.
>
>
>
> As I have no idea what the demand may be I have kept the initial production
> run quite small so please bear with me if demand outstrips supply there may
> be a slight delay as another production run is ordered.
>
>
>
> If you have any questions please send me a note.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Barry.
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From triumphs at consolidated.net  Sun Jan 30 12:52:04 2011
From: triumphs at consolidated.net (Ken Gano, home PC)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:52:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FDA7C75C795147D7B58A453BE93EB7CD@0817C93C637E473>

Don't bother.  I got it from Netflix last year and could not even finish it. 
It was strictly right wing religious propaganda and had virtually nothing to 
do with cars.  A total waste of time and brain cells.

Gano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...


> Amici...
>
> I've not watched it yet, but...
>
> My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw 
> this
> DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought
> it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin (tsk) 
> wants
> to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does 
> business
> at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver, he'll do
> whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all of he
> relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But as 
> Jay
> works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes 
> face
> to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to assume
> this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the 
> moviemaking
> ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig 
> Ziglar,
> a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are
> interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there. 
> Produced by
> Sherwood Pictures.
>
> I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting
> too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax 
> video
> tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also
> found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to get 
> some of
> them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good
> condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not found 
> many in
> car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE
> compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these days. 
> In
> addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and heavier 
> than
> a car battery.  Great fun & memories.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From jsclark at live.ca  Sun Jan 30 17:26:46 2011
From: jsclark at live.ca (Jeff Clark)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:26:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Hello FOT
Message-ID: <BLU158-w320094BA7C1574C2E4D22AAEE20@phx.gbl>

Hello FOT
I was recently nominated by Mike Derweerd and seconded by Andre Rousseau both
fellow racers in VARAC. I live just outside Ottawa,Ontario,Canada .At 47 years
old I thought racing would be a good hobby. I bought a 1971 GT6 a couple of
years ago as an ex SCCA race car that originally raced at Watkins Glen. It was
advertised on Kijiji and looked pretty sad when I went to see it (I've
attached a before and after picture) but I bought it anyway.This is my first
experience with a Britsh car,my rides till the Triumph were either American
mussel (Chevelles) or Japanese cars (Celicas). I just received Kas Kastner's
books to see how I can make it better,but since last year was my first as a
novice driver I intend to make improvements slowly as the biggest limitation
will probably be the driver. Now for a question,the car is running with the
3:89 overdrive diff at present and I would like to find a 4:11. Can anyone
tell me if I can use the gear out of a Spitfire? Thanks
Jeff Clark

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From Gt6steve at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 18:09:05 2011
From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:09:05 EST
Subject: [Fot] Hello FOT
Message-ID: <1ec10.2cbb7d30.3a7765b1@aol.com>

Yes and no Jeff,
 
Firstly welcome,
 
Andre has made you known to us already.
 
You can use the diff out of the 71 on Spittys, large output shafts.   The 
early cars had a smaller splined shaft but I have no idea what size it  was.  
Just smaller...;-))
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/2011 4:34:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jsclark at live.ca writes:

Hello  FOT
I was recently nominated by Mike Derweerd and seconded by Andre  Rousseau 
both
fellow racers in VARAC. I live just outside  Ottawa,Ontario,Canada .At 47 
years
old I thought racing would be a good  hobby. I bought a 1971 GT6 a couple of
years ago as an ex SCCA race car  that originally raced at Watkins Glen. It 
was
advertised on Kijiji and  looked pretty sad when I went to see it (I've
attached a before and after  picture) but I bought it anyway.This is my 
first
experience with a Britsh  car,my rides till the Triumph were either American
mussel (Chevelles) or  Japanese cars (Celicas). I just received Kas 
Kastner's
books to see how I  can make it better,but since last year was my first as a
novice driver I  intend to make improvements slowly as the biggest 
limitation
will probably  be the driver. Now for a question,the car is running with the
3:89  overdrive diff at present and I would like to find a 4:11. Can anyone
tell  me if I can use the gear out of a Spitfire? Thanks
Jeff  Clark

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sun Jan 30 18:50:50 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:50:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <2036843479.1917423.1296436876346.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <364252897.1918691.1296438650510.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hello all,
I recently received a housing back from Southwick and have come up with a
question regarding this conversion and TR3s specifically. I think that Bob
sets the conversion to the stock TR3 length. I'm wondering if it's worth
keeping some extra length on the axle tubes for the TR3s. There is an issue
with where the weld is for the Ford flange and the U bolts. The weld has to be
ground to fit the bolts. Wouldn't it be worth leaving a little more length on
the axle tubes? Then no grinding of the weld would be needed. There really
isn't that much weld on there. I think that as little as 1/8" added on each
side would alleviate any grinding or most of it, but 1/4" would be great. It
looks like Southwick cuts at least 1/4" off before the old flange. Perhaps we
could leave that much on. I've read the related archives and found that there
have been TR3s with TR4 axle under them. So, fender clearance shouldn't be an
issue. Any thoughts or comments on this would be nice, although it's a little
late for me, others may benefit from the info. Obviously, Southwick would make
the change between themselves and Moser.
Thanks,
Dave H.

From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sun Jan 30 19:09:31 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:09:31 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
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References: <2036843479.1917423.1296436876346.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<364252897.1918691.1296438650510.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <012101cbc0eb$e66a8820$0301a8c0@randall>

> I've read the related archives and 
> found that there
> have been TR3s with TR4 axle under them. So, fender clearance 
> shouldn't be an issue.

My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with fender
clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest tires
I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually damage
the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
otherwise dead stock suspension.

The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a TR3
axle.

-- Randall  

From jaboruch at netzero.net  Sun Jan 30 19:27:21 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 02:27:21 GMT
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Message-ID: <20110130.212721.6855.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

Dave, I added 3/8 inch to each side of the TR4 axle housing and axle shafts
that I have under my TR3.  I, however, have big widened and flared fenders, so
clearance is not an issue for my car.  Sorry, but can't help you with what
will fit under stock TR3 fenders.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: davehogye <dlhogye at comcast.net>
To: Fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:50:50 +0000 (UTC)

Hello all,
I recently received a housing back from Southwick and have come up with a
question regarding this conversion and TR3s specifically. I think that Bob
sets the conversion to the stock TR3 length. I'm wondering if it's worth
keeping some extra length on the axle tubes for the TR3s. There is an issue
with where the weld is for the Ford flange and the U bolts. The weld has to
be
ground to fit the bolts. Wouldn't it be worth leaving a little more length on
the axle tubes? Then no grinding of the weld would be needed. There really
isn't that much weld on there. I think that as little as 1/8" added on each
side would alleviate any grinding or most of it, but 1/4" would be great. It
looks like Southwick cuts at least 1/4" off before the old flange. Perhaps we
could leave that much on. I've read the related archives and found that there
have been TR3s with TR4 axle under them. So, fender clearance shouldn't be an
issue. Any thoughts or comments on this would be nice, although it's a little
late for me, others may benefit from the info. Obviously, Southwick would
make
the change between themselves and Moser.
Thanks,
Dave H.
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 19:50:08 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:50:08 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 50, Issue 31
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8330.1296439761.23296.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.8330.1296439761.23296.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4F68A872-2629-4200-8EF8-A86141E4B172@aol.com>

Over your heart or anywhere else on your suit, best to use Nomex  
thread (and not polyester!) Good to have some if you need any mending,  
too.

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=NOMEXTHREAD

John Frymark

On Jan 30, 2011, at 6:09 PM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:38:56 -0800
> From: Kas Kastner <kaskas at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT Patches
> To: Barry Munson <barry at penybryn.ca>, Christopher Bock
> 	<SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
> Cc: "<fot at autox.team.net>" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Message-ID: <20110130143856.28MDY.1016240.imail at fed1rmwml37>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Over your heart, of course.-

From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 31 07:40:09 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:40:09 EST
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Message-ID: <35da6.57eac8a0.3a7823c9@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time, 
TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:


> My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with 
> fender
> clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest 
> tires
> I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually 
> damage
> the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> otherwise dead stock suspension.
> 
> The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a 
> TR3
> axle.
> 

I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders 
rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we 
probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body shop 
guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result.  
Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.

Bill Dentinger

From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net  Mon Jan 31 08:18:02 2011
From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:18:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <35da6.57eac8a0.3a7823c9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by Eastwood
works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for cracking
the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid cracking
as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
-Ed-

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:


From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM


In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:


> My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> fender
> clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> tires
> I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> damage
> the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> otherwise dead stock suspension.
>
> The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> TR3
> axle.
>

I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
shop
guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result. 
Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.

Bill Dentinger
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From bownes at seiri.com  Mon Jan 31 08:25:40 2011
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:25:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <35da6.57eac8a0.3a7823c9@aol.com>
	<670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNECTuA3mS=YPya5r19VC+JekXv-Oz6YGw5U4z@mail.gmail.com>

I seem to recall/have heard a few stories that Kas worked a few wonders with
fender 'manipulation' on a few of the cars over the years. :)


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM, EDWARD BARNARD
<edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>wrote:

> If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by
> Eastwood
> works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
> pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for
> cracking
> the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid
> cracking
> as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
> -Ed-
>
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
> To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM
>
>
> In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:
>
>
> > My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> > fender
> > clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> > tires
> > I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> > damage
> > the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> > otherwise dead stock suspension.
> >
> > The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> > TR3
> > axle.
> >
>
> I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
> rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
> probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
> shop
> guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result.
> Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 31 09:04:48 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:04:48 EST
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Message-ID: <19e9cd.68d36cd5.3a7837a0@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/31/2011 9:25:44 AM Central Standard Time, 
bownes at seiri.com writes:


> I seem to recall/have heard a few stories that Kas worked a few wonders 
> with fender 'manipulation' on a few of the cars over the years. :)
> 
> 

That's exactly where I got the idea.  I was having trouble getting a set of 
vintage Goodyear Blue Streaks to fit on the car.  Originally, the rear 
tires were rubbing inside on the leaf springs; in spite of the fact that they 
have been 'carved out'..  Kas emailed me and asked if I was using wheel shims. 
 I told him that I had some, but couldn't use them because the tires would 
then rub on the outside.  He told me how to roll the fenders.  

Like I said...it worked slick.

Bill Dentinger

From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Mon Jan 31 09:32:12 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:32:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110131163212.ECCAB.35535.root@cdptpa-web17-z01>

If you look through the internet, there are folks that will rent it to you.

Bob
---- EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net> wrote: 
> If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by Eastwood
> works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
> pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for cracking
> the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid cracking
> as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
> -Ed-
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
> To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM
> 
> 
> In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:
> 
> 
> > My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> > fender
> > clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> > tires
> > I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> > damage
> > the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> > otherwise dead stock suspension.
> >
> > The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> > TR3
> > axle.
> >
> 
> I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
> rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
> probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
> shop
> guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result. 
> Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
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From kaskas at cox.net  Mon Jan 31 10:32:26 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 9:32:26 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimNECTuA3mS=YPya5r19VC+JekXv-Oz6YGw5U4z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110131123226.DLRWU.1037004.imail@fed1rmwml39>

On some occasions I have been known to roll a fender a little to clear some new type tires.  I  just used a round jack stand holding the shank part between the tire and the fender ,  pulling up and then just rolling the car and the tire carries the roll right along.  Three minutes and a whole new deal. The tip about warming the paint though is really a clever idea.
---- robert bownes <bownes at seiri.com> wrote: 

=============
I seem to recall/have heard a few stories that Kas worked a few wonders with
fender 'manipulation' on a few of the cars over the years. :)


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM, EDWARD BARNARD
<edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>wrote:

> If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by
> Eastwood
> works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
> pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for
> cracking
> the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid
> cracking
> as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
> -Ed-
>
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
> To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM
>
>
> In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:
>
>
> > My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> > fender
> > clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> > tires
> > I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> > damage
> > the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> > otherwise dead stock suspension.
> >
> > The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> > TR3
> > axle.
> >
>
> I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
> rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
> probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
> shop
> guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result.
> Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon Jan 31 12:11:18 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:11:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
Message-ID: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

It's good to get some feedback regarding adjusting fender clearance. 
It has been brought to my attention that track may be measured by some racing groups. 
Has anyone had their cars' track scrutinized? 
Tire and wheel size is related to the matter of clearance as well. I believe that TR3s should be to running 5.5" wheels max., but that depends on the race organization. 
What tire, wheel, spacer combinations are being used for TR3s? If spacers are being used, then maybe the axle could be lengthen a bit. 
Could the Southwick conversion for TR3s be lengthened by 1/4" overall? Is it worth going to the trouble of having the option from Southwick? 
Moser cuts and machines the axles, it seams to me that an 1/8" adjustment could be easily made. 
Again, 1/8" would really help the weld grinding situation. There really isn't that much weld on there when compared the the tube thickness. Perhaps no one has had a problem after removing some weld, but I thought this question was worth asking. If added length creates other problems, then it's probably not a good idea. 
Thanks for the commentary, 
Dave H. 

From N197TR4 at cs.com  Mon Jan 31 13:00:45 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:00:45 EST
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
Message-ID: <49a5b.2fc8a4d1.3a786eed@cs.com>

In a message dated 1/31/2011 1:47:47 PM Central Standard Time, 
dlhogye at comcast.net writes:


> Has anyone had their cars' track scrutinized?  NO.
> 

</HTML>

From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon Jan 31 13:19:33 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:19:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
In-Reply-To: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emer
	yville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>

I've never had my track width measured.  The car has only been 
weighed once, and that was voluntary.

- Tony Drews

At 01:11 PM 1/31/2011, davehogye wrote:
>It's good to get some feedback regarding adjusting fender clearance.
>It has been brought to my attention that track may be measured by 
>some racing groups.
>Has anyone had their cars' track scrutinized?
>Tire and wheel size is related to the matter of clearance as well. I 
>believe that TR3s should be to running 5.5" wheels max., but that 
>depends on the race organization.
>What tire, wheel, spacer combinations are being used for TR3s? If 
>spacers are being used, then maybe the axle could be lengthen a bit.
>Could the Southwick conversion for TR3s be lengthened by 1/4" 
>overall? Is it worth going to the trouble of having the option from Southwick?
>Moser cuts and machines the axles, it seams to me that an 1/8" 
>adjustment could be easily made.
>Again, 1/8" would really help the weld grinding situation. There 
>really isn't that much weld on there when compared the the tube 
>thickness. Perhaps no one has had a problem after removing some 
>weld, but I thought this question was worth asking. If added length 
>creates other problems, then it's probably not a good idea.
>Thanks for the commentary,
>Dave H.
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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Mon Jan 31 14:25:04 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:25:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
In-Reply-To: <20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>
References: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <8adec41aabb55de453fee191a2d67aa2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

I've had a car's track measured, but that was at the
SCCA Runoffs when I was crewing for a car that made
it to the podium (in third place).  We just barely made
it, too.

John

On Mon, January 31, 2011 3:19 pm, Tony Drews wrote:
> I've never had my track width measured.  The car has only been
> weighed once, and that was voluntary.
>
> - Tony Drews

From horizonracing at msn.com  Mon Jan 31 15:06:11 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:06:11 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
In-Reply-To: <8adec41aabb55de453fee191a2d67aa2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
References: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>,
	<8adec41aabb55de453fee191a2d67aa2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
Message-ID: <SNT141-w340EB560FB95A4F6782438B2E20@phx.gbl>

 Sovren has and Will check track, wheels size and weigh
> ____________________________________________

From JWoesvra at aol.com  Thu Jan 27 12:15:51 2011
From: JWoesvra at aol.com (JWoesvra at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:15:51 EST
Subject: [Fot] Vintage Race Rules Forum Invitation
Message-ID: <6773.2f8cbbac.3a731e67@aol.com>

The new Vintage Race Rules forum is open and in the testing stages. We have 
 signed over 150 users in the first few days and have some interesting  
dialogue going.
 
_http://www.vintageracerules.com/forums/_ 
(http://www.vintageracerules.com/forums/) 
 
Please check it out and sign up for a user name and try posting. Let us  
know what you think. 
 
The associated website is still under construction and should be on-line  
shortly. It will offer a lot of resources about period rules and regulations, 
 among other things.
 
When you sign in, we need you to put enough info in your profile so that we 
 can screen applicants, to avoid letting spammers in.
 
Report what you think.  It is work in progress.
 
Thanks, Jack and www (the wicked web wench) a.k.a. Barbie
 
Jack Woehrle

From rikrock at live.com  Sun Jan  2 06:41:20 2011
From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:41:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
Message-ID: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>

>From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, Sebring and
others.   www.barcboys.com

Rich Rock


From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Jan  2 11:14:44 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:14:44 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <EAA1A8E1A9E34B8384AA4697C89EC478@Bud>

great website Rich..thanks very much!
Racer Bud
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Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's


> >From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, 
> >Sebring and
> others.   www.barcboys.com
>
> Rich Rock
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From jason at multivintage.com  Sun Jan  2 14:52:43 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:52:43 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>

I had seen this site before but there is really some depth here. I got lost
in the Sebring section. Man 1963 Sebring must have been a dream day for our
Racing Triumph Fathers. All those TRs going the distance and ahead of so
many great drivers and cars. Keith and John sure are lucky to hold all that
history in the grip of their leather cover hands. Do any of the other cars
survive like the super powered TR3, or the other TR4's?

Also check out the cool photo of the spitfire coupes as a backdrop to
shuffleboard games in the 1965 Sebring Section.

Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com> wrote:

> >From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, Sebring
> and
> others.   www.barcboys.com
>
> Rich Rock
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From mlcooknj at msn.com  Sun Jan  2 20:58:48 2011
From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:58:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w366E33556B488F4D16ED06C8070@phx.gbl>

Looking at the 1965 Sebring pix, I see the caption about Peter Bolton crashing
after five laps. Correctly, it should say: "Peter Bolton did five quick laps
in the Spitfire before being hit from behind by one of the faster cars which
caused him to crash heavily. Fortunately, Peter was not seriously injured."

Memory won't tell me what the car was that hit the Spitfire. Kas may
remember.

In 1963, one of the TR4s was hit from behind by a Cobra, bending the exhaust
pipe which eventually burned through. The hole was below the tunnel and the
hot exhaust burned a hole through the fiber which would catch fire going down
the straight so the drivers had a small fire extinguisher with them to give
the fire a squirt as they braked. Between exhaust fumes, smoke and carbon tet
from the extinguisher it's luck they could concentrate on driving.

In the top row of pictures of Bridgehampton, 1961, page 2, there's a shot of
Fred Gamble in a Maserati, leading Hansgen and Holbert. As a Triumph employee
later that year, Fred participated with me in the first talks with Bob
Tullius. Fred later worked with Kas Kastner to develop the Triumph Racing
Support Program, the first driver support plan by a major manufacturer for
SCCA racing.

Mike Cook

> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:52:43 -0600
> From: jason at multivintage.com
> To: rikrock at live.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
>
> I had seen this site before but there is really some depth here. I got lost
> in the Sebring section. Man 1963 Sebring must have been a dream day for our
> Racing Triumph Fathers. All those TRs going the distance and ahead of so
> many great drivers and cars. Keith and John sure are lucky to hold all that
> history in the grip of their leather cover hands. Do any of the other cars
> survive like the super powered TR3, or the other TR4's?
>
> Also check out the cool photo of the spitfire coupes as a backdrop to
> shuffleboard games in the 1965 Sebring Section.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com> wrote:
>
> > >From tracks in the east. The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro,
Sebring
> > and
> > others. www.barcboys.com
> >
> > Rich Rock
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From mediehljr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  3 04:43:42 2011
From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 03:43:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w366E33556B488F4D16ED06C8070@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY147-w366E33556B488F4D16ED06C8070@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <404543.63909.qm@web39301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Happy New Year, Mike. One small comment:   The "small fire extinguisher" was the 
drink water bottle. Luckily we never got too thirsty.  Cheers, Ed.
 
Ed Diehl



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To: jason at multivintage.com; rikrock at live.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 10:58:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's

Looking at the 1965 Sebring pix, I see the caption about Peter Bolton crashing
after five laps. Correctly, it should say: "Peter Bolton did five quick laps
in the Spitfire before being hit from behind by one of the faster cars which
caused him to crash heavily. Fortunately, Peter was not seriously injured."

Memory won't tell me what the car was that hit the Spitfire. Kas may
remember.

In 1963, one of the TR4s was hit from behind by a Cobra, bending the exhaust
pipe which eventually burned through. The hole was below the tunnel and the
hot exhaust burned a hole through the fiber which would catch fire going down
the straight so the drivers had a small fire extinguisher with them to give
the fire a squirt as they braked. Between exhaust fumes, smoke and carbon tet
from the extinguisher it's luck they could concentrate on driving.

In the top row of pictures of Bridgehampton, 1961, page 2, there's a shot of
Fred Gamble in a Maserati, leading Hansgen and Holbert. As a Triumph employee
later that year, Fred participated with me in the first talks with Bob
Tullius. Fred later worked with Kas Kastner to develop the Triumph Racing
Support Program, the first driver support plan by a major manufacturer for
SCCA racing.

Mike Cook

> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:52:43 -0600
> From: jason at multivintage.com
> To: rikrock at live.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
>
> I had seen this site before but there is really some depth here. I got lost
> in the Sebring section. Man 1963 Sebring must have been a dream day for our
> Racing Triumph Fathers. All those TRs going the distance and ahead of so
> many great drivers and cars. Keith and John sure are lucky to hold all that
> history in the grip of their leather cover hands. Do any of the other cars
> survive like the super powered TR3, or the other TR4's?
>
> Also check out the cool photo of the spitfire coupes as a backdrop to
> shuffleboard games in the 1965 Sebring Section.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com> wrote:
>
> > >From tracks in the east. The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro,
Sebring
> > and
> > others. www.barcboys.com
> >
> > Rich Rock
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Mon Jan  3 10:45:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:45:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Patches
Message-ID: <C39CC51E-90CE-4BFC-A83A-9A70FA8B5ABD@aol.com>

Amici
Please forgive me but there was a member who asked for patches with the car
badge design.  Please contact me off list.

Thanks


From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Jan  3 12:22:42 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:22:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
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Rich it does bring back memories. I was at the Glen, Lime Rock, Marlboro and
Sebring all thru the 60s

Craig

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To: fot at autox.team.net
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>From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, Sebring
and
others.   www.barcboys.com

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From deweerdm at rogers.com  Mon Jan  3 15:36:43 2011
From: deweerdm at rogers.com (MIKE DEWEERD)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:36:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
Message-ID: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to go
faster next year. 
Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada


From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Jan  3 16:07:48 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:07:48 -0600
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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Yes, Another GT6! I will second this nomination.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD <deweerdm at rogers.com> wrote:

>  I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
> go
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From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Jan  3 16:09:22 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:09:22 -0800
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
References: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I second the nomination of Jeff Clark.
Racer Bud...Spitfire #21...Sonoma, Ca.
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Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 2:36 PM
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark


> I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking 
> to go
> faster next year.
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon Jan  3 16:10:57 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:10:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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 absolutely!








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To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:36 pm
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark


 I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just

started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with

Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
go

faster next year.

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Jan  3 16:24:07 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:24:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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I"ll second that one...need more Triumph racers from Ottawa.

Welcome Jeff

Paul 

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Sent: January 3, 2011 5:37 PM
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Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark

 I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
go faster next year. 
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From andre at gt6.ca  Mon Jan  3 18:26:00 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:26:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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Great guy.

Strong racer.

A.

On 3 January 2011 18:24, macdonaldp <macdonaldp at rogers.com> wrote:
> I"ll second that one...need more Triumph racers from Ottawa.
>
> Welcome Jeff
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of MIKE DEWEERD
> Sent: January 3, 2011 5:37 PM
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> Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
>
>  I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
> go faster next year.
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan  3 18:28:58 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 20:28:58 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we keeping with the  
custom of having the new guy tell us something about himself and his  
car?

On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:

I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school  
with
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's  
looking to go
faster next year.
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From andre at gt6.ca  Mon Jan  3 18:47:27 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:47:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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http://andrerousseau.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/20100926__2036.jpg

There they are.

I tried to climb into the car and left Jeff and Andrew in stitches.

Its sounds so nice.

A.

On 3 January 2011 20:28, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we keeping with the
> custom of having the new guy tell us something about himself and his
> car?
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:
>
> I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school
> with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's
> looking to go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From igofaster at att.net  Tue Jan  4 08:09:01 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 07:09:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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another GT6... oh boy! nicely prepared too...

seems Kas' and his new book are bringing the step child of Triumphs out in the 
open... well.... except for Heralds....

Bobby Whitehead




________________________________
From: Andre Rousseau <andre at gt6.ca>
To: Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 7:47:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark

http://andrerousseau.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/20100926__2036.jpg

There they are.

I tried to climb into the car and left Jeff and Andrew in stitches.

Its sounds so nice.

A.

On 3 January 2011 20:28, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we keeping with the
> custom of having the new guy tell us something about himself and his
> car?
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:
>
> I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school
> with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's
> looking to go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  4 08:44:26 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 07:44:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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Wouldn't the Mayflower be the true stepchild?  ;-)

Andy, you know I love them
too....

Jamie Palmer
RiffRAF Racing




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From: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
To: Andre Rousseau <andre at gt6.ca>
Cc: FoT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:09:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark

another GT6... oh boy! nicely
prepared too...

seems Kas' and his new book are bringing the step child of
Triumphs out in the 
open... well.... except for Heralds....

Bobby Whitehead
________________________________
From: Andre Rousseau <andre at gt6.ca>
To: Scott
Janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011
7:47:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
http://andrerousseau.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/20100926__2036.jpg

There
they are.

I tried to climb into the car and left Jeff and Andrew in stitches.
Its sounds so nice.

A.

On 3 January 2011 20:28, Scott Janzen
<sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we
keeping with the
> custom of having the new guy tell us something about
himself and his
> car?
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:
>
>
I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
>
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school
> with
>
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's
> looking to
go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
>
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  4 09:18:44 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:18:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Question about oil pan baffling...and invitation to join us
Message-ID: <807106.92571.qm@web114709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Your resident ChumpCar TR6 campaigners need a little advice.  I'm guessing
most 
of you have accusump or similar systems on your cars, but we aren't
allowed to 
by the ChumpCar rules and budget restrictions.  Among the races
we're running 
this year are Rockingham and  Charlotte Motor Speedway (road
course 
configurations) where you spend a lot of time on the banking (it's
questionable 
whether or not we will have the speed to actually make it UP the
banking, but at 
least in principle we will...) and we're worried about oil
starvation.  Any 
ideas on pan baffling or some other solution, or are we
worried about nothing?

BTW, if any of you are interested in coming out to
watch and/or play with us 
this year, our schedule is:

March 12-13    
Rockingham, NC (7-hrs each day)
April 23            Charlotte, NC (14-hr)
June
18-19        Roebling Road (7-hrs each day)
July 30-31        VIR (24-hr)
September 3-5    National Chumpionship, Iowa Speedway, 25-hr, multiple track
configurations
September 24    Sebring (14-hr, full course)
October 8-9       
Nelson Ledges, (25-hr 25-minutes)

We'd love to have any fellow FOT'ers out
there.  Lacey (our TR6) is now proudly 
sporting her FOT decals!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader, RiffRAF Racing
http://riffrafracing.blogspot.com (due to be
updated)
http://www.riffrafracing.com (under construction)


From walt at hot-tr6.com  Tue Jan  4 09:47:06 2011
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:47:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] truck with room
Message-ID: <C04A8FC6C6124DE888FB2D6E772FDD99@walt>

Hello, I am moving some furniture for my daughter this weekend, January 8,
2011. I will be going one way from Albuquerque, New Mexico to Las Vegas,
Nevada with a 16' Budget turck and there will be room left over if this
helps any FOT members with anything.
Walt Hollowell
Abq., NM

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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 10:15:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:15:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Patches
Message-ID: <DB5B35AA-3B67-4B88-850C-D12D284C25B2@aol.com>

Amici

I am not trying to get patches made. The badge project was a big enough
undertaking.


Some one had asked me for the badge design because they were looking into
getting patches made

Happy new year
Chris


From dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  4 10:19:42 2011
From: dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net (dale oesterle)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:19:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Question about flow numbers
In-Reply-To: <807106.92571.qm@web114709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <134501.6932.qm@web82201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have flow bench numbers for a good race head on a 1300 spitfire
(with or without intake manifold)?  Dale Oesterle

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Fot] Question about oil pan baffling...and invitation to join us
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 11:18 AM


Your resident ChumpCar TR6 campaigners need a little advice.  I'm guessing
most
of you have accusump or similar systems on your cars, but we aren't
allowed to
by the ChumpCar rules and budget restrictions.  Among the races
we're running
this year are Rockingham and  Charlotte Motor Speedway (road
course
configurations) where you spend a lot of time on the banking (it's
questionable
whether or not we will have the speed to actually make it UP the
banking, but at
least in principle we will...) and we're worried about oil
starvation.  Any
ideas on pan baffling or some other solution, or are we
worried about nothing?

BTW, if any of you are interested in coming out to
watch and/or play with us
this year, our schedule is:

March 12-13   
Rockingham, NC (7-hrs each day)
April 23            Charlotte, NC (14-hr)
June
18-19        Roebling Road (7-hrs each day)
July 30-31        VIR (24-hr)
September 3-5    National Chumpionship, Iowa Speedway, 25-hr, multiple track
configurations
September 24    Sebring (14-hr, full course)
October 8-9       
Nelson Ledges, (25-hr 25-minutes)

We'd love to have any fellow FOT'ers out
there.  Lacey (our TR6) is now proudly
sporting her FOT decals!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader, RiffRAF Racing
http://riffrafracing.blogspot.com (due to be
updated)
http://www.riffrafracing.com (under construction)
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From herald948 at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 10:42:28 2011
From: herald948 at aol.com (Andrew Mace)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:42:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <328182.11660.qm@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com><6E305128-3C81-45B4-9C3C-4BE63171B6AB@me.com><AANLkTik-QcNhQNdFRBGNyEOtXmUGwA5tT7mXQKv=7nG2@mail.gmail.com><292550.18243.qm@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<328182.11660.qm@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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 I'm not sure. I vaguely remember, years ago, seeing a photograph of a
Mayflower with the Group 44 logo/numbers on the side! :-)



--Andy Mace

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 11:04 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark


Wouldn't the Mayflower be the true stepchild?  ;-)


From jmwagner at greenheart.com  Tue Jan  4 10:49:05 2011
From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 09:49:05 -0800
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
Message-ID: <4D235D91.2020400@greenheart.com>

Just ran across this on Craigslist...   --J


1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Jan  4 11:05:40 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:05:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Patches A new FOT project plus 2011 and 2012 race
 committees
In-Reply-To: <DB5B35AA-3B67-4B88-850C-D12D284C25B2@aol.com>
References: <DB5B35AA-3B67-4B88-850C-D12D284C25B2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD7A5121763DB4-15EC-15F1@webmail-d040.sysops.aol.com>

 This project is pending and will surface in 30 days or so.

The plan is to replicate the medallion as a sew on patch.

The project has a 'champion' and I think he will follow through.

Great volunteerism that surfaces among the ranks of the FOT.

One of the reasons that we dont have OFFICERS and DUES.

We DO have a new 'COMMITTEE' approach to our annual race which involves the
Kastner Cup. We should be hearing from them shortly on both the 2011 and 2012
events.

Joe A








-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
To: FoTTriumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 11:15 am
Subject: [Fot] Patches


Amici



I am not trying to get patches made. The badge project was a big enough

undertaking.





Some one had asked me for the badge design because they were looking into

getting patches made



Happy new year

Chris

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From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Jan  4 11:13:30 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:13:30 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end time
 Jan-06-11 13:25:39 PST)
Message-ID: <47CC2BB3AB7D4BDFB09754D2BEE39807@Bud>

Hi Gang...Here's the Ebay link to a beautiful Peerless with original Triumph
engine..
Racer bud..Spitfire #21



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513651517+&v
iewitem=


From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 11:22:31 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:22:31 EST
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
Message-ID: <41f07.6b838e0d.3a54bf67@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/04/2011 12:16:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
jmwagner at greenheart.com writes:


> Just ran across this on Craigslist...   --J
> 
> 
> 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html
> 

Pretty car...but then...aren't they all.

Bill Dentinger


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Jan  4 11:23:58 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:23:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
In-Reply-To: <4D235D91.2020400@greenheart.com>
References: <4D235D91.2020400@greenheart.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101041322460.343@isis.mit.edu>

On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Justin Wagner wrote:

> Just ran across this on Craigslist...   --J
>
>
> 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html

Hawk it to Wayne Carrini - you could make a killing!!!

:-)

Actually, this looks like a pretty nice car!

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From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 11:55:29 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:55:29 EST
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end
 time Jan-0...
Message-ID: <833.159ae76d.3a54c721@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/04/2011 12:34:15 PM Central Standard Time, 
budscars at comcast.net writes:


> <<< Hi Gang...Here's the Ebay link to a beautiful Peerless with original 
> Triumph
> engine..
> Racer bud..Spitfire #21 >>>
> 

Amici...

Sure is.  Looks like a gorgeous restoration.  Says, "California Car".  Kas 
might tell you that most of them are, at least a lot of them came into the 
country via California, and have his fingerprints on them.  

Bob Wismer and I have an original Peerless (#112), that is completely 
operational, and in respectable 'unrestored' condition for a fifty plus year old 
car.  It has a roll bar and some limited (mostly VSCCA) competition history. 
 We have not raced it, because of a bug or two (i.e., one of the twin fuel 
tanks leaks) but Wismer did a 500 mile+ Rally a year or two back, and 
Shirley and I take it out to dinner now and again.  Past that...it's been in warm, 
inside storage as long as we've owned it.  

We have not advertised it, but it is For Sale.  Contact me if you are 
interested, or want to see a picture.

Bill Dentinger


From tlizzard at msn.com  Tue Jan  4 15:55:15 2011
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:55:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end
 time Jan-06-11 13:25:39 PST)
In-Reply-To: <47CC2BB3AB7D4BDFB09754D2BEE39807@Bud>
References: <47CC2BB3AB7D4BDFB09754D2BEE39807@Bud>
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds18CFB4BCE19A2A7537E4CAC3080@phx.gbl>

Pretty.


Terry Stetler
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  To: fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
  Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end time
Jan-06-11 13:25:39 PST)


  Hi Gang...Here's the Ebay link to a beautiful Peerless with original
Triumph
  engine..
  Racer bud..Spitfire #21



  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513651517+
&v<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513651517
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Jan  4 20:36:38 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:36:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SPITFIRE REAR ENGINE PLATE-ONE LEFT
Message-ID: <8CD7AA0E4E2FD28-DE4-C35F2@webmail-m101.sysops.aol.com>

 I had an order for a ALUMINUM rear SPITFIRE plate and found only two on the
shelf.

If anyone has been thinking about getting one in the near future, this is it.

We will likely run some in future, however. Pretty slow moving.

Still trying to justify engineering the front plate...or find the time.

Thanks,

Joe  A


From vintage.racer at comcast.net  Tue Jan  4 22:26:50 2011
From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 05:26:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101041322460.343@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <2017973492.781100.1294205210759.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Robert: 


Thanks, it is a nice car but the real beauty is underneath and on the inside where you'd find a RATCO frame, several of Joe Alexander's race bits and a bunch of other goodies. 


Gary 
#67 TR4 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu> 
To: "Justin Wagner" <jmwagner at greenheart.com> 
Cc: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2011 10:23:58 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale 

On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Justin Wagner wrote: 

> Just ran across this on Craigslist... --J 
> 
> 
> 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale 
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html 

Hawk it to Wayne Carrini - you could make a killing!!! 

:-) 

Actually, this looks like a pretty nice car! 

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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Jan  5 05:07:43 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:07:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>

Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to 
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
some weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that 
"we" aren't polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause 
I have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan  5 06:42:59 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:42:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8CD7AF599928215-17A8-196D4@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com>

 Anodizing or powder coating might be two good coatings

I hadnt thought of doing either, but have those resources.

Polishing and then powder coat clear might be another choice.

Joe A








-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 6:07 am
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From chasgee at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 08:08:52 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:08:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>

You can get rattle cans of metal etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, etc.
that really improve the adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it is
kind of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it.  Anodizing
would be the best bet, but costs a little more.

Chuck





-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan  5 08:12:54 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:12:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <1894772994.597151.1294240184047.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1919979114.597293.1294240374437.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

If you can find a powder coater that uses Cardinal powder you can get rattle
can touch up

paint for it. You can also get clear powder coat if you wanted to polish it.





Jim G.




----- Original Message -----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
To: lang at isis.mit.edu, fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 6:42:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

B Anodizing or powder coating might be two good coatings

I hadnt thought of doing either, but have those resources.

Polishing and then powder coat clear might be another choice.

Joe A








-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 6:07 am
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From kaskas at cox.net  Wed Jan  5 08:41:23 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:41:23 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
	<8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. It 
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and 
so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.

--------------------------------------------------
From: <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
To: <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

> You can get rattle cans of metal etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, etc.
> that really improve the adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it 
> is
> kind of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it. 
> Anodizing
> would be the best bet, but costs a little more.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
> install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
> some
> weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
> installed
> these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
> polishing them before installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause 
> I
> have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed Jan  5 09:07:37 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:07:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
Message-ID: <780529.37735.qm@smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 The zinc chromate primer that I have used is bright yellow and it works
well.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Kas Kastner
Sent: January 5, 2011 10:41 AM
To: lang at isis.mit.edu; fot at autox.team.net; chasgee at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. It
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and
so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.


From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 09:08:16 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:08:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>

Try  Skygeek.com....get the Tempo brand green zinc chromate  
spray...GREAT...get it before they stop makin it...rick
 
 
In a message dated 1/5/2011 11:02:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
kaskas at cox.net writes:

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your  paint store. 
It 
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in  most aircraft and 
so prevalent in Army and Air Force  parts.

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
To:  <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot]  Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

> You can get rattle cans of metal  etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, 
etc.
> that really improve the  adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it 
> is
> kind  of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it. 
>  Anodizing
> would be the best bet, but costs a little  more.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert M. Lang  <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed,  Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine  Plates
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of  the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet 
to
> install them, yet.  However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
> some
>  weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
>  The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing,  etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed  that folks have 
> installed
> these on the cars that I've looked  at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
> polishing them before  installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're  using as a primer 
bacause 
> I
> have really crappy luck with  getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
>  rml
>  
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 09:16:11 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:16:11 EST
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <1db5b0.5efca24b.3a55f34b@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/05/2011 10:02:18 AM Central Standard Time, 
kaskas at cox.net writes:


> The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. 
> It 
> is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and 
> 
> so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.
> 
> 

Olive Drab?  I'll be damn'd!  You mean that stuff is NOT British Racing 
Green?

Bill (Damdinger)

PS  Remember Olive Drab Tanker Jackets (ala Eisenhower).  I had several, 
and a Duck Tail too.  But no Triumphs at the time.  I had a powder blue 1951 
Ford convertible, skirts, continental kit, shaved, lowered, Smithy pipes, 
etc.


From rfdeanes at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 09:31:08 2011
From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:31:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=sBSH89VaFOpR0LOCzEBQFQuMacvXrKa+qzcwy@mail.gmail.com>

I also us Zinc Chromate and then use the color that I do the engine in and
it all blends in, alittle lighter all ways helps and nobody knows but me, on
the coast we use  Zinc Chromate on alot of things that take salt, corrosion
and oil abuse ,haven't had any problems with the paint coming off.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
> install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
> weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have
> installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we"
> aren't polishing them before installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
> have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan  5 10:13:09 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard Meyerl)
Message-ID: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>

 FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,


Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
Germany. I am helping with this process.

Reinhard resides in the south of Germany, near Munich. He drives a nicely
prepared TR4 in coupe configuration. I believe he ran the SPA and Nurbergring
last year, as well as a number of rallies.

Reinard will make a great addition to our growing international 'membership.

Please welcome REINHARD to the list. Christian will mentor him in how our
lists works, and we hope he will soon share his experiences on and off the
track.

I just sent Reinhard Kas' newest book and he will likely get to know some of
us through this great book.

Christian Marx & Joe A


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan  5 10:17:30 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:17:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MARK BRADAKIS
Message-ID: <8CD7B1391691E94-1820-93B7@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>

 Mark,

reinhardmayerl at arcomail.de

when you are ready to add to the list....   thanks!  Joe


From riverside at southslope.net  Wed Jan  5 10:39:19 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:39:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu><8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>
	<A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
Message-ID: <001001cbacff$84d76e20$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>

We started having trouble acquiring zinc chromate primers some
years ago.   We were told it was a hazmat problem.

art de armond
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas at cox.net>
To: <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>; <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


> The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. 
> It is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft 
> and so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <chasgee at aol.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
> To: <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>
>> You can get rattle cans of metal etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, 
>> etc.
>> that really improve the adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it 
>> is
>> kind of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it. 
>> Anodizing
>> would be the best bet, but costs a little more.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>> Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
>> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet 
>> to
>> install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
>> some
>> weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>>
>> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>>
>> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
>> installed
>> these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
>> polishing them before installing...
>>
>> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause 
>> I
>> have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>>
>> regards,
>> rml
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent
>> 2010 NER Solo Chair |
>> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From tr4.tony at virgin.net  Wed Jan  5 10:59:45 2011
From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (tr4.tony at virgin.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:59:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
 Meyerl)
In-Reply-To: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <171162302-1294250444-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-338104128-@b4.c1.bise7.blackberry>

Happy to second this one ... Any friend of Chris is a friend of mine !  
Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:09 
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: <reinhardmayerl at arcormail.de>
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard Meyerl)

 FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,


Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
Germany. I am helping with this process.

Reinhard resides in the south of Germany, near Munich. He drives a nicely
prepared TR4 in coupe configuration. I believe he ran the SPA and Nurbergring
last year, as well as a number of rallies.

Reinard will make a great addition to our growing international 'membership.

Please welcome REINHARD to the list. Christian will mentor him in how our
lists works, and we hope he will soon share his experiences on and off the
track.

I just sent Reinhard Kas' newest book and he will likely get to know some of
us through this great book.

Christian Marx & Joe A
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 11:06:56 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:06:56 EST
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
 Meyerl)
Message-ID: <f4063.73e58e92.3a560d40@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/05/2011 11:34:30 AM Central Standard Time, 
n197tr4 at cs.com writes:


> FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,
> 
> 
> Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
> Germany. I am helping with this process.
> 

Ach du lieber!  Ja!  Zwie!

Bill Dentinger
Milwaukee


From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Jan  5 11:20:12 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:20:12 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>,
	<8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>,
	<A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
Message-ID: <SNT141-w1691D75288D5A0707CD3EFB2090@phx.gbl>

Happy new year to everyone...
my two cents....coarse scotch brite, then fine, then with WD 40. I hate
watching paint dry ;) Easy to clean and maybe 20 mins of your time.

> From: kaskas at cox.net
> To: lang at isis.mit.edu; fot at autox.team.net; chasgee at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:41:23 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>
> The undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. It
> is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and
> so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Jan  5 11:26:10 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:26:10 +0100
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
 Meyerl)
In-Reply-To: <171162302-1294250444-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-338104128-@b4.c1.bise7.blackberry>
References: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>
	<171162302-1294250444-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-338104128-@b4.c1.bise7.blackberry>
Message-ID: <001f01cbad06$07d3ef50$177bcdf0$@com>

Hi Guys.....thank you for this warm welcome of Reinhard!
He mostly racing in the Bavaria part of Germany with a little group or team
around him.
More he might tell us when he first time appear on this list.

Cheers
Chris


-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von tr4.tony at virgin.net
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2011 19:00
An: n197tr4 at cs.com; fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net
Cc: reinhardmayerl at arcormail.de
Betreff: Re: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
Meyerl)

Happy to second this one ... Any friend of Chris is a friend of mine !
Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:09
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: <reinhardmayerl at arcormail.de>
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard Meyerl)

 FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,


Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
Germany. I am helping with this process.

Reinhard resides in the south of Germany, near Munich. He drives a nicely
prepared TR4 in coupe configuration. I believe he ran the SPA and
Nurbergring
last year, as well as a number of rallies.

Reinard will make a great addition to our growing international 'membership.

Please welcome REINHARD to the list. Christian will mentor him in how our
lists works, and we hope he will soon share his experiences on and off the
track.

I just sent Reinhard Kas' newest book and he will likely get to know some of
us through this great book.

Christian Marx & Joe A
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From KENMUN at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 12:02:52 2011
From: KENMUN at aol.com (KENMUN at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:02:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] tr3 brake master cyl. upgrade to dual system
Message-ID: <b6fef.fe374f7.3a561a5c@aol.com>

fot, anyone have any advice on adapting a dual brake master cyl. to a tr3?  
i'm looking at a gt6 that looks like it might be made to work with a lot of 
 mods. thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer.


From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Jan  5 13:07:32 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:07:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] tr3 brake master cyl. upgrade to dual system
In-Reply-To: <b6fef.fe374f7.3a561a5c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110105200732.ZEU62.148141.root@cdptpa-web12-z02>

I have designed a mount to hold 3 Tilton 75 series master cylinders (the short Wilwood cylinders will also work). It is aluminum. I have just finished fab'ing the parts and dropped it off to be welded. It will use the stock TR3 pedal assembly, the stock pushrods that come with the Tilton cylinders, and heim joints at the attach points. As designed, no firewall modifications are needed since all three cylinders will fit within the stock firewall opening. As designed, pressure differential will have to be handled by a Tilton pressure differential valve installed inline for the rear brakes. If interested, I can send pictures when I get it back later this week along with dimensions of the various parts.

BobD  

 
---- KENMUN at aol.com wrote: 
> fot, anyone have any advice on adapting a dual brake master cyl. to a tr3?  
> i'm looking at a gt6 that looks like it might be made to work with a lot of 
>  mods. thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer.
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From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Jan  5 13:09:52 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:09:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <1db5b0.5efca24b.3a55f34b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110105200952.A51EU.148156.root@cdptpa-web12-z02>

Boat supply stores usually stock it, too.

BobD
---- BillDentin at aol.com wrote: 
> In a message dated 01/05/2011 10:02:18 AM Central Standard Time, 
> kaskas at cox.net writes:
> 
> 
> > The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. 
> > It 
> > is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and 
> > 
> > so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Olive Drab?  I'll be damn'd!  You mean that stuff is NOT British Racing 
> Green?
> 
> Bill (Damdinger)
> 
> PS  Remember Olive Drab Tanker Jackets (ala Eisenhower).  I had several, 
> and a Duck Tail too.  But no Triumphs at the time.  I had a powder blue 1951 
> Ford convertible, skirts, continental kit, shaved, lowered, Smithy pipes, 
> etc.
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 14:04:28 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:04:28 EST
Subject: [Fot] tr3 brake master cyl. upgrade to dual system
Message-ID: <3dd7f.48751d11.3a5636dc@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/05/2011 1:29:56 PM Central Standard Time, 
KENMUN at aol.com writes:


> fot, anyone have any advice on adapting a dual brake master cyl. to a 
> tr3?  
> i'm looking at a gt6 that looks like it might be made to work with a lot 
> of 
> mods. thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer.
> 

Ken...

There is a LUCAS part off an Austin Taxi cab that will allow you to split 
the brake cylinder on a TR3 without butchering a lot of sheet metal.   It is 
LUCAS Part #64066044, and if you order one, be sure to get a rebuild kit at 
the same time for on the shelf.  That number is #SP2683.  This was something 
sorted out by John Harkness for his TR3A years ago and it works slick.  I 
have one on my car and others do as well.

Bill Dentinger

Bill Dentinger


From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Jan  5 15:10:13 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:10:13 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
References: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>

Yes, get some of them, because in europe they no longer sell these anymore,
due to environmental laws. We used to have chromate primers as etch primers
for steel as well, but forbidden also. And the new eco friendly replacement
are nowhere as good (engineers from Dupont told me).
As I realise now these are still avail in the US, will get some!
Cheers!
Alex

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de REK46 at aol.com
Envoyi : mercredi 5 janvier 2011 17:08
@ : kaskas at cox.net; lang at isis.mit.edu; fot at autox.team.net; chasgee at aol.com
Objet : Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

Try  Skygeek.com....get the Tempo brand green zinc chromate
spray...GREAT...get it before they stop makin it...rick


In a message dated 1/5/2011 11:02:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kaskas at cox.net writes:

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your  paint store.
It
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in  most aircraft and
so prevalent in Army and Air Force  parts.

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
To:  <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot]  Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

> You can get rattle cans of metal  etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's,
etc.
> that really improve the  adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it
> is
> kind  of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it.
>  Anodizing
> would be the best bet, but costs a little  more.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert M. Lang  <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed,  Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine  Plates
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of  the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet
to
> install them, yet.  However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose
> some
>  weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
>  The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing,  etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed  that folks have
> installed
> these on the cars that I've looked  at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
> polishing them before  installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're  using as a primer
bacause
> I
> have really crappy luck with  getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
>  rml
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Jan  5 16:25:03 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:25:03 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
References: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
	<000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <000f01cbad2f$c8c4f410$5a4edc30$@com>

The main problem with zinc chromate is that it is a skin contact poison.
It enters through the skin into the body.

Always should be applied with gloves.

Cheers
Chris


From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan  5 16:26:51 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:26:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <1729583835.624575.1294268308807.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Greetings FoT,

I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach

dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.

I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was plagued

with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
side.

In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users manual

and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have ever
seen

probes that far away from the flange.

Input would be appreciated.



Jim G

# 102


From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Jan  5 16:58:32 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:58:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4D2505A8.2030706@cfl.rr.com>

1 1/2" is to close. I've always had good results at 4"-5".

BobD

On 1/5/2011 6:26 PM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed Jan  5 17:00:35 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:00:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <000f01cbad2f$c8c4f410$5a4edc30$@com>
Message-ID: <779276.41145.qm@smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hmm, I guess in aerosol even worse...that could explain EVERYTHING...

Haha

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: January 5, 2011 6:25 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

The main problem with zinc chromate is that it is a skin contact poison.
It enters through the skin into the body.

Always should be applied with gloves.

Cheers
Chris
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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Wed Jan  5 18:43:18 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 01:43:18 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Message-ID: <20110105.204318.13763.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

My EGT probes are 6 inches away and they seem fine there.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:26:51 +0000 (UTC)

Greetings FoT,

I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach

dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.

I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was
plagued

with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
side.

In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users
manual

and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have ever
seen

probes that far away from the flange.

Input would be appreciated.



Jim G

# 102
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  5 19:37:53 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:37:53 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B13B0394-B3F3-4631-8393-45A0E36ED35B@yahoo.com>

I had inconsistent readings when I had mine 6 inches from the flange. Sam
Halkias told me to move them 6 inches from the valve and that corrected my
problems. I think I am going to try a wide band O2 sensor this year to get
another picture of what my mixture is like.

Mike
EP TR6

On Jan 5, 2011, at 5:26 PM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:

> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was
plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users
manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have
ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From igofaster at att.net  Wed Jan  5 20:15:42 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:15:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
Message-ID: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad 1500...


Bobby Whitehead


From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Jan  5 20:48:35 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:48:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
References: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
	<000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <4D253B93.6080005@bradakis.com>

What's the difference between an alley engine and a shade tree engine?

Alley more urban, shade tree more rural?

mjb.


From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Jan  5 20:58:34 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:58:34 -0700
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
In-Reply-To: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B6B13D2601344DC4A574F9CC0741B793@Vista>

I think I got my shortened pushrods from Ted Schumacher.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:16 PM
To: FoT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500

need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad
1500...


Bobby Whitehead
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan  5 22:34:57 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:34:57 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <993B045C5BA14D07BBF9E2B488EBF924@KasPC>
Message-ID: <20110106053619.409C0187669@autox.team.net>

At 5200' elevation my timing is 36 degrees BTC, that's 2 below what others
run up here, at Topeka I was at 31 with all my advance in at 4000.
My gas is 108 at 12.5:1 CR. I guess when I installed the probes I was under
the assumption all EGT gauges & probes were the same with the same offset
from the flange. 

Jim G 
# 102

-----Original Message-----
From: Kas Kastner [mailto:kaskas at cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:22 PM
To: toodamnfunky at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location

That close to the flange will probably still see some flame and that is too 
close for accurate readings.  The retarded ignition will also add to the 
exhaust temp. But then, I don't know what you mean by "retarded" as in 
retarded from what, and what engine and what gasoline octane? (always more 
questions)
--------------------------------------------------
From: <toodamnfunky at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:26 PM
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location

> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was 
> plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users 
> manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have 
> ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From rwestfall at ymail.com  Wed Jan  5 22:41:04 2011
From: rwestfall at ymail.com (Russell Westfall)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:41:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Re:  Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <765398.54782.qm@web59909.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Russell Westfall <rwestfall at ymail.com> wrote:

From: Russell Westfall <rwestfall at ymail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
To: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 3:31 PM

Go to your local PPG or Dupont paint supplier and get some Aluma prep, Acid
etch primer and epoxy primer follow the insructions and you will be quite
pleased with the results. Powder coating is always an option, or if you don't
feel comfortable doing the painting yourself I have a close friend who owns a
Maaco shop and he will paint anything and do it well and at a reasonable
price. I'm sure that if you checked in your area you will find shops that
would do this for you. However, there is a pleasure in doing the job yourself.
Painting really is not a mystery and if the directions are followed with
todays materials the results are good. True Zinc Chromate primer hasn't been
legal in the U.S. in quite some time, it's really not good for you, but it did
make paint stick!
Russ Westfall

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 12:07 PM


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From adcronin at mi.rr.com  Thu Jan  6 08:59:54 2011
From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:59:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
In-Reply-To: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A14E267F-9BB6-46FF-B54D-5938A091986B@mi.rr.com>

Contact Ted at TSI in Pandora Ohio.  NFI
Dan


On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote:

> need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad
1500...
>
>
> Bobby Whitehead
> _______________________________________________
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From rodkent at cox.net  Thu Jan  6 09:10:34 2011
From: rodkent at cox.net (rodkent at cox.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:10:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
In-Reply-To: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110106111034.41P28.707091.imail@fed1rmwml31>

smith brothers pushrods will build what you need, highest quality.
---- Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net> wrote: 
need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad 1500...


Bobby Whitehead
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Thu Jan  6 16:11:59 2011
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:11:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
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You can use other primers besides zinc chromate.  I have used epoxy.  
You have to prep the aluminum, because it develops an aluminum oxide 
skin.  The prep usually involves a mild acid such as phosphoric.  It 
must be primed soon after the prep.  The primer should come with prep 
instructions.
Larry

On 1/5/2011 6:07 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've 
> yet to install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution 
> to loose some weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few 
> weeks.
>
> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
> installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that 
> "we" aren't polishing them before installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer 
> bacause I have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to 
> aluminium.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From REK46 at aol.com  Thu Jan  6 17:16:11 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:16:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <269f3.7b84659e.3a57b54b@aol.com>

use some Alodine to prep the surface
 
 
In a message dated 1/6/2011 7:01:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cartravel at pobox.com writes:

You can  use other primers besides zinc chromate.  I have used epoxy.   
You have to prep the aluminum, because it develops an aluminum oxide  
skin.  The prep usually involves a mild acid such as  phosphoric.  It 
must be primed soon after the prep.  The primer  should come with prep 
instructions.
Larry

On 1/5/2011 6:07 AM,  Robert M. Lang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the  original aluminium engine plates, I've 
> yet to install them, yet.  However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution 
> to loose some weight, so  the plate will be installed in the next few 
> weeks.
>
>  The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing,  etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed  that folks have 
> installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so  that tells me that 
> "we" aren't polishing them before  installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're  using as a primer 
> bacause I have really crappy luck with getting  paint to stick to 
> aluminium.
>
> regards,
>  rml
>  
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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Thu Jan  6 17:26:28 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:26:28 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Message-ID: <20110106.192628.8248.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>

A wide band O2 sensor is the way to go.  I use an Innovate LM1 and LM3, thus
having data logging capability.  I don't keep the O2 sensor in all the time.
I used it, logged it, made adjustments as needed then took the system out.  I
noted what the EGTs were at WOT on a long straight and if readings are off
then I know something is not right and make mixture adjustments as needed.
Long term use of an O2 sensor with leaded fuel will ruin the sensor.
Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
To: "toodamnfunky at comcast.net" <toodamnfunky at comcast.net>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:37:53 -0600

I had inconsistent readings when I had mine 6 inches from the flange. Sam
Halkias told me to move them 6 inches from the valve and that corrected my
problems. I think I am going to try a wide band O2 sensor this year to get
another picture of what my mixture is like.

Mike
EP TR6

On Jan 5, 2011, at 5:26 PM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:

> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was
plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users
manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have
ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Jan  7 08:13:04 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:13:04 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Triumph cranks
In-Reply-To: <20110106.192628.8248.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110106.192628.8248.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <002401cbae7d$63b71900$2b254b00$@com>

Hi,

does anyone know which company made the Triumph cranks?

Cheers
Chris


From BillDentin at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 10:57:16 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:57:16 EST
Subject: [Fot] Sad tale that includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...
Message-ID: <d5159.75d82dcb.3a58adfc@aol.com>

 Click here: Jamie Lincoln Kitman Examines the Life of a Car Enthusiast: 
Cars: GQ 

I am not sure if Mark allows the emailing of a link to the list like this, 
but this sad story about the life of a car collector includes a Triumph 
Dolomite Sprint, no less.

Bill Dentinger


From BillDentin at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 12:06:08 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:06:08 EST
Subject: [Fot] Includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...take two...
Message-ID: <dacfc.21ee3a67.3a58be20@aol.com>

Amici...

A second attempt to provide a link to an article in the Gentleman's 
Quarterly about the often sad affairs of an auto collector...including a Triumph 
Dolomite Sprint.

< 
www.gq.com/cars-gear/cars/201012/jamie-kitman-a-man-and-his-cars-life-of-a-car-enthusiast >

Bill Dentinger

PS  Thanks, Jim.


From rjl6n at cstone.net  Fri Jan  7 12:07:27 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:07:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Sad tale that includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...
In-Reply-To: <d5159.75d82dcb.3a58adfc@aol.com>
References: <d5159.75d82dcb.3a58adfc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <435fe0d983080c3030c66ab93acdb48a.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

Try this:

http://www.gq.com/cars-gear/cars/201012/jamie-kitman-a-man-and-his-cars-life-of-a-car-enthusiast

On Fri, January 7, 2011 12:57 pm, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>  Click here: Jamie Lincoln Kitman Examines the Life of a Car Enthusiast:
> Cars: GQ
>
> I am not sure if Mark allows the emailing of a link to the list like this,
> but this sad story about the life of a car collector includes a Triumph
> Dolomite Sprint, no less.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  7 16:04:16 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:04:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...take two...
In-Reply-To: <dacfc.21ee3a67.3a58be20@aol.com>
References: <dacfc.21ee3a67.3a58be20@aol.com>
Message-ID: <651514.25938.qm@web80808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Jamie (by way of Car & Driver) brought several cars out to Michigan in 2005
for 
the
British Reliabilty Run. They brought the Dolomite, Minor, gold
Cortina and the 
MGA.
If you still have it, Kitman wrote an article for Car &
Driver . It was in the 
January 2006
issue.
________________________________
From: "BillDentin at aol.com"
<BillDentin at aol.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 2:06:08
PM
Subject: [Fot] Includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...take two...

Amici...
A second attempt to provide a link to an article in the Gentleman's 
Quarterly
about the often sad affairs of an auto collector...including a Triumph
Dolomite Sprint.

<
www.gq.com/cars-gear/cars/201012/jamie-kitman-a-man-and-his-cars-life-of-a-ca
r-enthusiast
 >

Bill Dentinger

PS  Thanks, Jim.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Jan  7 16:18:53 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:18:53 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Triumphs at Daytona 1967
Message-ID: <AANLkTims5B2HymTuHdL1sNDPC35O5U=E1_B3UCCU1H2C@mail.gmail.com>

Friends,
Found these short videos today while "working."
Two cool clips of the factory TR's at Daytona in 1967.
Part one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276276739/in/set-72157604389838783/

Part two:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276435807/in/set-72157604389838783/


Enjoy,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 22:46:10 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0800
Subject: [Fot] A nice demo lap of Laguna Seca Mazda Raceway
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <5F8FC533-FDB2-494A-92A7-FEC007A2AA5E@aol.com>

Gear up for June and the 2011 Kastner Cup....

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=MS3#/ 
trackAttack


From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 22:54:10 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:54:10 -0800
Subject: [Fot] A nice demo lap of Laguna Seca Mazda Raceway (corrected)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <58590112-BEC4-4D12-963C-DA0B8DA08618@aol.com>

Gear up for June and the 2011 Kastner Cup....

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=MS3#/ 
trackAttack

...AND CLICK ON "TRACK ATTACK" in upper left


From tlizzard at msn.com  Sat Jan  8 07:47:05 2011
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 09:47:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Triumphs at Daytona 1967
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTims5B2HymTuHdL1sNDPC35O5U=E1_B3UCCU1H2C@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTims5B2HymTuHdL1sNDPC35O5U=E1_B3UCCU1H2C@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds2AF4955C36F8C3F34811FC30C0@phx.gbl>

WOW!

Great find!

BTW I have used number 23 in my meager motorsport activities since 1970
because of that Ferrari 330 P4, the most beautiful automobile ever conceived.


Terry Stetler.


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Jan  8 14:19:16 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Help moving a non Triumph item Cross country
Message-ID: <153E6018-7BDE-4AEF-AA07-85CA393534AE@aol.com>

Amici,

I have been contacted by a fellow collector from a different hobby  
and would like help getting it moved from Wyoming to the Eastcoast  
(PA,MD,NJ,NY) area.

It is a pinball machine.  It is ready to move.  Just need a  
handtruck. It will fit in a pickup or a van with no seats.  I am sure  
it will fit in a trailer.

Any Help?

Thanks
Chris


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Jan  8 17:35:07 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 01:35:07 +0100
Subject: [Fot] My currently fastest lap of Zandvoort
In-Reply-To: <153E6018-7BDE-4AEF-AA07-85CA393534AE@aol.com>
References: <153E6018-7BDE-4AEF-AA07-85CA393534AE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000a01cbaf95$1210cd30$36326790$@com>

This is less driving more sliding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSbQnFm2Q1I

Cheers
Chris


From list at mackenzie.aero  Sun Jan  9 18:37:07 2011
From: list at mackenzie.aero (Robert MacKenzie)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:37:07 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
Message-ID: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>

I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John
Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.

Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm
clutch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk

John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.


Robert MacKenzie
President, Hill Country Triumph Club
president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org
www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Jan  9 19:31:56 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
In-Reply-To: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
References: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
Message-ID: <8CD7E85AF29A8FB-FDC-1A0A6@webmail-m054.sysops.aol.com>

 Great stuff.....nothing like doing it easy way.

We did make a precision drill plate and have converted a number early
flywheels to diaphragm clutch.

It can be done on a drill press.   Dennis Delap has used it for one of his
flywheels.

It's just sitting on the shelf, so if someone wants to borrow it....shipping
costs will cover it.

But if you have a cnc resource, go for it!








-----Original Message-----
From: Robert MacKenzie <list at mackenzie.aero>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, Jan 9, 2011 7:37 pm
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification


I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John

Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.



Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm

clutch.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk



John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.





Robert MacKenzie

President, Hill Country Triumph Club

president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org

www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org

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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sun Jan  9 20:12:57 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:12:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted
Message-ID: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>

Amici,
  I am looking for a TR6 trans with no guts. I am just looking for  
the bellhousing to be in good shape. The rest is not needed.  Just a  
question......  Does a GT6 trans bolt to a TR6 engine?  If it does  
then I will take the bellhousing from that.

Thanks
Chris


From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan 10 06:23:31 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott janzen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:23:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted
In-Reply-To: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>
References: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>
Message-ID: <53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>

I'm in the process of evaluating the same project.  You will need a rear engine plate that matches the transmission, I.e. GT6 with GT6.  Also, TR6 transmissions have an integral cast bell housing, not a separate bolt-on one like a TR4-6

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:12 PM, christopher bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com> wrote:

> Amici,
> I am looking for a TR6 trans with no guts. I am just looking for the bellhousing to be in good shape. The rest is not needed.  Just a question......  Does a GT6 trans bolt to a TR6 engine?  If it does then I will take the bellhousing from that.
> 
> Thanks
> Chris
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan 10 09:13:40 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted
In-Reply-To: <53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>
References: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>
	<53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>
Message-ID: <E099064E-2023-4ACA-80F5-5D4BCFDE2DC0@me.com>

Meant to say that the GT6 trans has a bolt-on bell housing, where the  
TR4-6 have integral cast bell housings.

On Jan 10, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Scott janzen wrote:

I'm in the process of evaluating the same project.  You will need a  
rear engine plate that matches the transmission, I.e. GT6 with GT6.   
Also, TR6 transmissions have an integral cast bell housing, not a  
separate bolt-on one like a TR4-6

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:12 PM, christopher bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com> wrote:

> Amici,
> I am looking for a TR6 trans with no guts. I am just looking for the  
> bellhousing to be in good shape. The rest is not needed.  Just a  
> question......  Does a GT6 trans bolt to a TR6 engine?  If it does  
> then I will take the bellhousing from that.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan 10 09:15:11 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:15:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  TR6 empty trans wanted
References: <53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>
Message-ID: <815F0AD9-7C49-47BB-AC9B-E8412A95C12C@me.com>

Meant to say that the GT6 trans has a bolt-on bell housing, where the  
TR4-6 have integral cast bell housings.


Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted

I'm in the process of evaluating the same project.  You will need a  
rear engine plate that matches the transmission, I.e. GT6 with GT6.   
Also, TR6 transmissions have an integral cast bell housing, not a  
separate bolt-on one like a TR4-6


From list at mackenzie.aero  Mon Jan 10 09:59:10 2011
From: list at mackenzie.aero (Robert MacKenzie)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:59:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
In-Reply-To: <000E00F6C34A41DC9E8E969306713975@roberta16b8c09>
References: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
	<000E00F6C34A41DC9E8E969306713975@roberta16b8c09>
Message-ID: <004501cbb0e7$b401c560$1c055020$@aero>

John is an amazing machinist.  I spent a day in his shop last spring and
watched him overhaul my Spit cyl head and fit custom bee-hive valve springs
(search his videos to see it done)

He is a "fiat guy" but I can't hold that against him.

-----Original Message-----
From: rdwismer [mailto:rdwismer at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:36 AM
To: robert at mackenzie.aero
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification

Good video. We need to keep this guy's name/number on file.

I am always impressed with a good machinist. I have a plumber replacing 
tub/shower faucets in one of our bathrooms today. Good plumbers impress me 
as well. In fact, all most everybody that is good impresses 
me..........Wismer




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert MacKenzie" <list at mackenzie.aero>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification


>
> I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John
> Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.
>
> Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm
> clutch.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk
>
> John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.
>
>
> Robert MacKenzie
> President, Hill Country Triumph Club
> president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org
> www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Mon Jan 10 13:11:31 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:11:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
In-Reply-To: <004501cbb0e7$b401c560$1c055020$@aero>
References: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
	<000E00F6C34A41DC9E8E969306713975@roberta16b8c09>
	<004501cbb0e7$b401c560$1c055020$@aero>
Message-ID: <002e01cbb102$931ad010$b9507030$@rr.com>

Fiat, you mean the parent company of Ferrari? What's to hold against him?
Russ Moore


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Robert MacKenzie
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:59 AM
To: 'rdwismer'
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification

John is an amazing machinist.  I spent a day in his shop last spring and
watched him overhaul my Spit cyl head and fit custom bee-hive valve springs
(search his videos to see it done)

He is a "fiat guy" but I can't hold that against him.

-----Original Message-----
From: rdwismer [mailto:rdwismer at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:36 AM
To: robert at mackenzie.aero
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification

Good video. We need to keep this guy's name/number on file.

I am always impressed with a good machinist. I have a plumber replacing 
tub/shower faucets in one of our bathrooms today. Good plumbers impress me 
as well. In fact, all most everybody that is good impresses 
me..........Wismer




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert MacKenzie" <list at mackenzie.aero>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification


>
> I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John
> Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.
>
> Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm
> clutch.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk
>
> John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.
>
>
> Robert MacKenzie
> President, Hill Country Triumph Club
> president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org
> www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org
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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Tue Jan 11 10:04:41 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:04:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European race
 cars....need submissions!!!]
Message-ID: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

Hi folks,

I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
some of you might be interested in contacting him
about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
for a few years.  They often have some interesting
cars there.  Please contact Ric at:

<ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>

directly for more details.

John

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
cars....need submissions!!!
From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Good Morning!

Some F1 pics for you:
http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
0-s-amp-70-s.


I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
September.

I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
could lead us to such cars?

We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...


 Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!

Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
concourse, etc....should be fun!!!

Ric


From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Jan 11 10:28:17 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:28:17 -0600
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European
 race cars....need submissions!!!]
In-Reply-To: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.n et>
References: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
Message-ID: <20110111172806.5DD7C18764A@autox.team.net>

Where (geographically) is this?

- Tony

At 11:04 AM 1/11/2011, rjl6n at cstone.net wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
>some of you might be interested in contacting him
>about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
>your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
>would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
>very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
>for a few years.  They often have some interesting
>cars there.  Please contact Ric at:
>
><ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>
>directly for more details.
>
>John
>
>---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
>cars....need submissions!!!
>From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
>To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Good Morning!
>
>Some F1 pics for you:
>http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
>0-s-amp-70-s.
>
>
>I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
>September.
>
>I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
>European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
>as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
>could lead us to such cars?
>
>We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
>and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...
>
>
>  Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
>kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
>mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!
>
>Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
>concourse, etc....should be fun!!!
>
>Ric


From rjl6n at cstone.net  Tue Jan 11 11:25:38 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:25:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European
 race cars....need submissions!!!]
In-Reply-To: <20110111172824.2BF281F4018@mailstore06.ntelos.net>
References: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
	<20110111172824.2BF281F4018@mailstore06.ntelos.net>
Message-ID: <fcc1087b3c537a66771dec1daa482584.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

Hi Tony,

Sorry, it will be at a winery near Richmond, VA (in
New Kent County, I believe).  There is also a golf
course nearby, I am told.

John

On Tue, January 11, 2011 12:28 pm, Tony Drews wrote:
> Where (geographically) is this?
>
> - Tony
>
> At 11:04 AM 1/11/2011, rjl6n at cstone.net wrote:
>>Hi folks,
>>
>>I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
>>some of you might be interested in contacting him
>>about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
>>your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
>>would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
>>very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
>>for a few years.  They often have some interesting
>>cars there.  Please contact Ric at:
>>
>><ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>>
>>directly for more details.
>>
>>John
>>
>>---------------------------- Original Message
>> ----------------------------
>>Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
>>cars....need submissions!!!
>>From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>>Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
>>To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Good Morning!
>>
>>Some F1 pics for you:
>>http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
>>0-s-amp-70-s.
>>
>>
>>I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
>>September.
>>
>>I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
>>European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
>>as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
>>could lead us to such cars?
>>
>>We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
>>and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...
>>
>>
>>  Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
>>kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
>>mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!
>>
>>Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
>>concourse, etc....should be fun!!!
>>
>>Ric


From riverside at southslope.net  Tue Jan 11 15:27:57 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:27:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
Message-ID: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>

Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond


From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Jan 11 16:54:31 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:54:31 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
Message-ID: <C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>

There are two different castings that were used.  The thicker one is good
but the thinner one is probably too weak to be something I would recommend.
I have seen the thicker one going for around a hundred bucks,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Jan 11 17:38:44 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:38:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
	<C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
Message-ID: <000001cbb1f1$117228c0$34567a40$@rr.com>

That is about the right price but I have seen problems with both versions of
the aluminum bell housing and removed mine after finding too many fractures
to suit me. I am back to a cast iron one with shield. 
Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:55 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

There are two different castings that were used.  The thicker one is good
but the thinner one is probably too weak to be something I would recommend.
I have seen the thicker one going for around a hundred bucks,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From norlinengineering at comcast.net  Tue Jan 11 19:40:19 2011
From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:40:19 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
Message-ID: <478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>

I did a bunch of research on this about a year ago.  The thinner one is off
a Herald and from what I was told, is probably not a candidate for a race
car.  Street car, sure.  I have one and would be willing to part with it.

The thicker bellhousing is off of an early (very early) Spitfire.  They are
very difficult to find.  I located one last year and had to give $175 for
it.  

New ones are available out of England for around $500.  Spitbits sometimes
has them in stock.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From herald948 at aol.com  Tue Jan 11 19:57:43 2011
From: herald948 at aol.com (Andrew Mace)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:57:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
	<C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
Message-ID: <8CD801B9E2A4266-924-64B2@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com>

 I've seen the thicker ones go for well over $100. Fortunately, I've never
tested one of those. However, I did blow up a clutch in the Herald, 2nd gear
and probably about 2000-2500 rpm (just going up a hill). Enough of the clutch
remained so that the car could be nursed home under its own power, but all
shifting had to be done by matching revs and praying. When I got it all apart,
I found one or two tiny dents and/or holes in the (thinner Herald-style)
bellhousing. Wasn't enough to make me toss the bellhousing...but it did make
me think a bit. The genuine Spitfire alloy housings are much thicker than
those of the earlier Herald gearbox, especially at the engine mating flange.

For what it's worth, the difference in weight is amazing. The cast iron
bellhousing is somewhere in the 30 lb. range, while the alloy bellhousings are
more like 7-10 lb. or thereabouts.



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph
Register: http://www.vtr.org

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald
Database: http://triumph-herald.us




-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: 'riverside' <riverside at southslope.net>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


There are two different castings that were used.  The thicker one is good

but the thinner one is probably too weak to be something I would recommend.

I have seen the thicker one going for around a hundred bucks,


From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Jan 11 20:41:19 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:41:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
	<478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
Message-ID: <073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>

I have one that I will let go for $15,000.00.  And I will throw in a full
race fuel injected 1296 engine, Full synchro 3-Rail OD gearbox and a
beautiful Mk1 Spitfire body complete with interior and soft top.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Norlin Engineering
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:40 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

I did a bunch of research on this about a year ago.  The thinner one is off
a Herald and from what I was told, is probably not a candidate for a race
car.  Street car, sure.  I have one and would be willing to part with it.

The thicker bellhousing is off of an early (very early) Spitfire.  They are
very difficult to find.  I located one last year and had to give $175 for
it.  

New ones are available out of England for around $500.  Spitbits sometimes
has them in stock.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Jan 11 23:11:10 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:11:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Does anyone know anything about this TR 4 / 5 / 6?
Message-ID: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>



From billb at bnj.com  Wed Jan 12 00:13:22 2011
From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:13:22 -1000
Subject: [Fot] Does anyone know anything about this TR 4 / 5 / 6?
In-Reply-To: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
References: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <6DB57044-3528-4D4E-888F-E4994D9336F6@bnj.com>

Well, that certainly leaves a lot of room for response. 
On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Tony Drews wrote:

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Jan 12 02:13:34 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:13:34 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Who knows anything about that car?
Message-ID: <000001cbb238$fe7bccb0$fb736610$@com>

A search for information about that car b maybe you might be able to help:

-------- Original-Nachricht --------

Betreff:
bitte an deine facebook Freunde weiterleiten

Datum:
Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:45:35 +0100

Von:
Dieter Seidel  <mailto:Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de> <Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de>

An:
info at kartec.de



     Dear Triumph friends,

           does anybody know something about this car ?
           ( see pictures )
http://picasaweb.google.com/tr4racing/TR4Racing#5561218334964309298
http://picasaweb.google.com/tr4racing/TR4Racing#5561220857246843266

           I am a Triumph enthusiast for more than 30 years
           and I am racing a TR 4 for about 20 years now.

           And I bought this "TR 250" racer in may 1989 somewhere
           in Los Angeles - since that it was stored in a barn
           at my place in Paderborn / Germany.
           Before restoring it now, I would like to know some
           details of its history.
           Hope there is someone out there in California who
           remembers this special rainbow stripes.
           For several reasons it seems to me that it was never
           used as an ordinary road car.
           It has a TR4 body which was originaly a powderblue one,
           a TR250 / TR6 frame with a Datsun-Nissan 260Z rear axle,
           a Triumph TR6 racing engine, several other TR6 parts
           and special racing parts.
           If somebody can tell me anything about it I would be
           very thankfull when sending me an email to :
                       Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de

            Thank you very, very much   Dieter






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From rfdeanes at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 06:39:38 2011
From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:39:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European
 race cars....need submissions!!!]
In-Reply-To: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
References: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimM2V3HfVJYCbFPLTQW+-SmCNrpDnsr2+FLfOak@mail.gmail.com>

These are some good shots of the cars....and flying!

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:04 PM, <rjl6n at cstone.net> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
> some of you might be interested in contacting him
> about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
> your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
> would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
> very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
> for a few years.  They often have some interesting
> cars there.  Please contact Ric at:
>
> <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>
> directly for more details.
>
> John
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
> cars....need submissions!!!
> From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
> Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
> To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Good Morning!
>
> Some F1 pics for you:
> http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
> 0-s-amp-70-s.
>
>
> I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
> September.
>
> I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
> European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
> as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
> could lead us to such cars?
>
> We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
> and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...
>
>
>  Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
> kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
> mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!
>
> Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
> concourse, etc....should be fun!!!
>
> Ric
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Jan 12 07:31:09 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:31:09 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2><478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
	<073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>
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Joe, I'll trade you for a nice condition GT6 Mk 3 body shell for the
engine/car/interior  :-)

I've been using an aluminum bellhousing on my Spit racer for years now
and have had no problem with it (but we're not really testing it with
any, you know, power, either).  I think I paid about $100 for it.

I don't know, however, which version it is (thinner v. thicker).  What
are the differences between the two versions?

Scott B.


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:41 PM
To: 'Norlin Engineering'; 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

I have one that I will let go for $15,000.00.  And I will throw in a
full
race fuel injected 1296 engine, Full synchro 3-Rail OD gearbox and a
beautiful Mk1 Spitfire body complete with interior and soft top.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Norlin Engineering
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:40 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

I did a bunch of research on this about a year ago.  The thinner one is
off
a Herald and from what I was told, is probably not a candidate for a
race
car.  Street car, sure.  I have one and would be willing to part with
it.

The thicker bellhousing is off of an early (very early) Spitfire.  They
are
very difficult to find.  I located one last year and had to give $175
for
it.

New ones are available out of England for around $500.  Spitbits
sometimes
has them in stock.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Jan 12 08:21:52 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:21:52 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Does anyone know anything about this TR 4 / 5 / 6?
In-Reply-To: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
References: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20110112152147.5C75C187650@autox.team.net>

Let's try that again in plain text...

http://picasaweb.google.com/tony.drews.88/DieterTR?authkey=Gv1sRgCNiMwI7_rrqPMA#

Christof from Germany is trying to help a friend find out more info 
about a TR race car that he owns.  The link above is to a couple of 
pictures that he sent me.  Here's the forwarded request:



Dear Triumph friends,

            does anybody know something about this car ?
            ( see pictures )

            I am a Triumph enthusiast for more than 30 years
            and I am racing a TR 4 for about 20 years now.

            And I bought this "TR 250" racer in may 1989 somewhere
            in Los Angeles - since that it was stored in a barn
            at my place in Paderborn / Germany.
            Before restoring it now, I would like to know some
            details of its history.
            Hope there is someone out there in California who
            remembers this special rainbow stripes.
            For several reasons it seems to me that it was never
            used as an ordinary road car.
            It has a TR4 body which was originaly a powderblue one,
            a TR250 / TR6 frame with a Datsun-Nissan 260Z rear axle,
            a Triumph TR6 racing engine, several other TR6 parts
            and special racing parts.
            If somebody can tell me anything about it I would be
            very thankfull when sending me an email to :
                        Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de

             Thank you very, very much   Dieter


Thanks for your attention to this request, Tony Drews


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Jan 12 09:06:47 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:06:47 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <E5F69447E6864C9E816C0F9ED71FB4C1@Vista>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2><478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
	<073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>
	<3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7401E72E7F@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
	<E5F69447E6864C9E816C0F9ED71FB4C1@Vista>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7401E72E85@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Joe wrote: << The difference in the two housings are obvious when you
put it next to one of the steel ones.  The thicker one appears to be
cast from the same molds
as the steel one. >>

Then I must have the thinner aluminum bellhousing on my Spit racer.
It's a noticeably thinner and lighter casting than the stock cast iron
one.

It hasn't broken yet, even though someone relieved it for the
Stahl-style header at some point in the past (which removes 6-8 inches
of the circumference of the bellhousing and at least one bolt-hole where
the header slides along the side of the engine) and we drilled a
large-ish hole in it to allow clearance for the single-rail style
shifter.  But then, as I said, we're not really pushing any power
through it.  I've used it mostly with the stock-ish 1500cc motors I've
been running.

Am presently knocking on wood and expecting the bellhousing to twist off
as I pull the car on the trailer for the first race weekend of the
year....

Scott B.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:10 AM
To: Barr, Scott
Subject: RE: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

The difference in the two housings are obvious when you put it next to
one
of the steel ones.  The thicker one appears to be cast from the same
molds
as the steel one.  The thin one is much different and is immediately
obvious
to the eye.

Joe.


From rikrock at live.com  Wed Jan 12 15:53:48 2011
From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:53:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
Message-ID: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>

Amici,

Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the wireless
transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club
is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places we
are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be
towed by any of several different trucks.

www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html

Rich Rock


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 12 16:28:04 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:28:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>

 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further
checking








-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


Amici,



Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the wireless

transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club

is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places
we

are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be

towed by any of several different trucks.



www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html



Rich Rock

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From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Jan 12 16:53:13 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:53:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>
References: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
	<8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <7BA8B6043923485DBEE966C89C042B79@Vista>

Iowa is one of the few remaining places in the USA that still makes stuff.
:)

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:28 PM
To: rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Brakes?

 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further
checking








-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


Amici,



Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the
wireless

transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club

is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places
we

are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be

towed by any of several different trucks.



www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html



Rich Rock

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 12 17:19:00 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:19:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <7BA8B6043923485DBEE966C89C042B79@Vista>
References: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
	<8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>
	<7BA8B6043923485DBEE966C89C042B79@Vista>
Message-ID: <8CD80CE9C5B2889-1144-35E4@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>

 yes we do!

i love it here....but plan to head south for a week or two.     brrrr.








-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: n197tr4 at cs.com; rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


Iowa is one of the few remaining places in the USA that still makes stuff.

:)



Joe C.



-----Original Message-----

From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On

Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:28 PM

To: rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net

Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Brakes?



 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further

checking

















-----Original Message-----

From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>

To: fot at autox.team.net

Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm

Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?





Amici,







Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the

wireless



transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club



is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places

we



are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be



towed by any of several different trucks.







www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html







Rich Rock



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From chasgee at aol.com  Wed Jan 12 18:07:09 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:07:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <8CD80CE9C5B2889-1144-35E4@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 12 18:15:51 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:15:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <8CD80D5563CAC3A-644-4E03@webmail-d091.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CD80CE9C5B2889-1144-35E4@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>
	<8CD80D5563CAC3A-644-4E03@webmail-d091.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD80D68D84D40D-1C10-1534E@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>

 it is worse in the south when it happens....no infrastructure or equipment to
take care of it or experience to drive in it.










-----Original Message-----
From: chasgee at aol.com
To: n197tr4 at cs.com; spitlist at cox.net; rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


south isn't much better.  just left Alabama and it was snowing...

-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
To: spitlist <spitlist at cox.net>; rikrock <rikrock at live.com>; fot
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: 12-Jan-2011 19:36:28 +0000
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


 yes we do!



i love it here....but plan to head south for a week or two.     brrrr.

















-----Original Message-----

From: Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>

To: n197tr4 at cs.com; rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net

Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53 pm

Subject: RE: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?





Iowa is one of the few remaining places in the USA that still makes stuff.



:)







Joe C.







-----Original Message-----



From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On



Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com



Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:28 PM



To: rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net



Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Brakes?







 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further



checking



































-----Original Message-----



From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>



To: fot at autox.team.net



Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm



Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?











Amici,















Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the



wireless







transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club







is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places



we







are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be







towed by any of several different trucks.















www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html















Rich Rock







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From chasgee at aol.com  Wed Jan 12 18:22:06 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:22:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
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From cwnfot at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 19:41:36 2011
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:41:36 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing photos
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Message-ID: <014201cbb2cb$6665e490$3331adb0$@com>

For your discussion.
Here's an album of my transmission collection, which includes at least 3
aluminum bell housings. 2 of one version and 1 of another. I see the
difference as in the style of the ribs. I don't think I have a good shot
showing the thickness of the one removed from the tranny.
http://picasaweb.google.com/cwnicholls/SpitfireTransmissionsAndBH# 
 
Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new
owner
"Reality, it's not what you think."


From rfdeanes at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 10:20:12 2011
From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:20:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: race
In-Reply-To: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E0945180D5BA2AF@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu>
References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E0945180D5BA2AF@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Deanes, Robert <deanesr at uncw.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Subject: FW: race
To: "rfdeanes at gmail.com" <rfdeanes at gmail.com>

Thought some of you may enjoy this short footage that was sent to me, you
may even recognize the TRs in the footage.





*Subject:* race




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDD0tKsFx0k

Check out the road race 1963



-- 
rob deanes
TR Racer


From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jan 13 11:11:14 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:11:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: race
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimdQcx_5e1_2HBHcqQ08c62pgz_o7n_natY1hH+@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E0945180D5BA2AF@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu>
	<AANLkTimdQcx_5e1_2HBHcqQ08c62pgz_o7n_natY1hH+@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18A20640-C340-4ACB-86C5-B59F0F9B8D0E@me.com>

nice - where have all those old cars gone - too bad they don't get  
brought out to run anymore.  There were, what, six Cobras at a  
Pennsylvania hillclimb?  By 1963 they had only made a few hundred.


On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Robert Deanes wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Deanes, Robert <deanesr at uncw.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Subject: FW: race
To: "rfdeanes at gmail.com" <rfdeanes at gmail.com>

Thought some of you may enjoy this short footage that was sent to me,  
you
may even recognize the TRs in the footage.





*Subject:* race




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDD0tKsFx0k

Check out the road race 1963



-- 
rob deanes
TR Racer
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From norlinengineering at comcast.net  Thu Jan 13 11:40:38 2011
From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:40:38 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing photos
In-Reply-To: <014201cbb2cb$6665e490$3331adb0$@com>
Message-ID: <03480CE5E5464D48B7F6ECE1F7771C01@TOSHIBALAPTOP>

Good collection of photos.  It appears that the upper photos are of the
thinner Herald Bellhousing and the lower ones are the thicker Spitfire
bellhousing.  Notice the differences in the ribbing.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clark W. Nicholls
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:42 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing photos


For your discussion.
Here's an album of my transmission collection, which includes at least 3
aluminum bell housings. 2 of one version and 1 of another. I see the
difference as in the style of the ribs. I don't think I have a good shot
showing the thickness of the one removed from the tranny.
http://picasaweb.google.com/cwnicholls/SpitfireTransmissionsAndBH# 
 
Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new
owner "Reality, it's not what you think."
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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Fri Jan 14 17:52:11 2011
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:52:11 +1000
Subject: [Fot] chasing GT6 rear uprights
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHzqJrvtWpFrtbyo7ZO4O0v0rccKTKGcu8ZQ08@mail.gmail.com>

does anyone have a pair of MK2 GT6 uprights (hub carriers) they would like
to sell. thanks a lot, Terry O'Beirne, Australia


From gasket.works at gte.net  Mon Jan 17 12:33:43 2011
From: gasket.works at gte.net (gasket.works at gte.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:33:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup 2011
Message-ID: <1061187764-1295292840-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2145938510-@bda715.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Members;

Our Kcup event management group will be meeting this Jan 29 with HMSA directly.  We are hoping to finalize some details. Further information to follow.

Suffice to say that the race track is fast and fun rich with history.  Technically less difficult than Mid Ohio.  The climb up to the Cork Screw seems tougher than it actually is and the drive off the peak is smooth and faster than you want at times.  The weather will be warm and the Monterey peninsula (majestic  sights) very close. 

Stay tuned....

Mordy Dunst for the Kcup group.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 17 14:14:09 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:14:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
Message-ID: <183803.66172.qm@web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
like 
to sell?   let me know.

Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4


From rocky at spitfire4.com  Mon Jan 17 17:17:51 2011
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:17:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
References: <183803.66172.qm@web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DE4323643299481DB237EFF75389BD79@rocky>

I find what you need in the Pegasus catalogue. You'd just need to know your 
thread size into the engine block -- they have several sizes. Under 20 
bucks. Website says "in stock."

Separately they have the remote filter heads for the actual filter.

Go to www.pegasusautoracing.com and type "oil filter adapter" in the keyword 
search.

I also found them in the Summit catalogue (summitracing.com). They're 
talking about Fords and Chevies, but it's the same deal: know your thread 
size into the engine block.

--Rocky Entriken



----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed


> Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
> like
> to sell?   let me know.
>
> Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4
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From adcronin at mi.rr.com  Mon Jan 17 17:32:47 2011
From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:32:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
In-Reply-To: <DE4323643299481DB237EFF75389BD79@rocky>
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	<DE4323643299481DB237EFF75389BD79@rocky>
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You might also try British Frame & Engine---got mine there some while back.
Dan


On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote:

> I find what you need in the Pegasus catalogue. You'd just need to know your
thread size into the engine block -- they have several sizes. Under 20 bucks.
Website says "in stock."
>
> Separately they have the remote filter heads for the actual filter.
>
> Go to www.pegasusautoracing.com and type "oil filter adapter" in the keyword
search.
>
> I also found them in the Summit catalogue (summitracing.com). They're
talking about Fords and Chevies, but it's the same deal: know your thread size
into the engine block.
>
> --Rocky Entriken
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
> To: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:14 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
>
>
>> Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
>> like
>> to sell?   let me know.
>>
>> Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4
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From deweerdm at rogers.com  Mon Jan 17 19:35:33 2011
From: deweerdm at rogers.com (MIKE DEWEERD)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:35:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
Message-ID: <202890.44772.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

m.Go to "Little British Car Company"  on the web and punch in the Moss part
number to see if they have one in stock........usually 10-15% cheaper and they
are in Detroit. No commercial interest  just another part source you might
want to try.Mike 

--- On Tue, 1/18/11, Dan Cronin <adcronin at mi.rr.com> wrote:

From: Dan Cronin <adcronin at mi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
To: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky at spitfire4.com>
Cc: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 12:32 AM

You might also try British Frame & Engine---got mine there some while back.
Dan


On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote:

> I find what you need in the Pegasus catalogue. You'd just need to know your
thread size into the engine block -- they have several sizes. Under 20 bucks.
Website says "in stock."
>
> Separately they have the remote filter heads for the actual filter.
>
> Go to www.pegasusautoracing.com and type "oil filter adapter" in the
keyword
search.
>
> I also found them in the Summit catalogue (summitracing.com). They're
talking about Fords and Chevies, but it's the same deal: know your thread
size
into the engine block.
>
> --Rocky Entriken
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
> To: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:14 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
>
>
>> Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
>> like
>> to sell?   let me know.
>>
>> Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Tue Jan 18 17:40:32 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:40:32 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup 2011
Message-ID: <D3617699-E0D6-4509-BAFE-595EA4E58E4E@aol.com>

Like Mordy said...and don't forget to make your hotel reservations  
asap. The more business we show the hotel management, the more they  
are willing to do some special stuff for us. Here was the original  
notice:

FOT-

We have negotiated a discounted room rate for FOT at the Embassy  
Suites Hotel for the 2011 Kastner Cup. The Embassy Suites is the  
official hotel of Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca (http:// 
www.mazdaraceway.com) and offers close access to both the track and to  
the many attractions of the Monterey Bay area.

A block of rooms has been reserved for FOT members at the rate of  
$155.00/night (plus tax). Rooms are 2-room suites and include daily  
complimentary breakfast and Manager's cocktail reception. For  
additional information, terms and conditions, and to make a  
reservation please visit:

http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/groups/personalized/M/MRYESES-FOT-20110605/index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG
Group Name:	Friends of Triumph
Group Code:	FOT
Check-in:	05-JUN-2011
Check-out:	09-JUN-2011
Hotel Name:	Embassy Suites Monterey Bay - Seaside
Hotel Address:	1441 Canyon Del Rey
  	Seaside, California
  	93955
Phone Number:	831-393-1115

The Embassy Suites management has shown real excitement at the idea of  
hosting our fine group! With a satisfactory number of reservations,  
they have offered to set-up exclusive receptions and to provide  
dedicated parking lot  facilities for us. I encourage you to make your  
reservation as early as possible. Monterey, California is a well known  
resort area so there are many options for accommodations at various  
price levels. A partial listing can be seen at: http://www.mazdaraceway.com/pages/hotels

For those interested in camping sites/RV hook-ups, these are reserved  
through Monterey County Parks (888-588-2267) in campsites located just  
outside of the Raceway, however, reservations will not be taken until  
late January. We are also trying to get information on overnighting at  
the track which is restricted. Please stay tuned for more information  
to follow.

John Frymark


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Jan 18 20:30:47 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:30:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup 2011
In-Reply-To: <D3617699-E0D6-4509-BAFE-595EA4E58E4E@aol.com>
References: <D3617699-E0D6-4509-BAFE-595EA4E58E4E@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD85A065CC789A-12BC-816C@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com>

 You guys east of the ROCKIES and more.

What John said........there are a limited number of rooms and we will be
inviting TRIUMPH CLUBS.

Kas and Peg will be ensconced in the EMBASSY SUITES from Sunday to Wednesday,
as well as several other VIP GUESTS.  We may be afforded other amenities and
considerations if we show strength early on......hot breakfast and manager's
cocktail parties are already pretty valuable amenities, but John is working on
more.

There is a 48 hour reservation cancellation, so there is no concern there.

Thanks!  Joe      see John's note again below.









 FOT-We have negotiated a discounted room rate for FOT at the Embassy  Suites
Hotel for the 2011 Kastner Cup. The Embassy Suites is the  official hotel of
Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca (http:// www.mazdaraceway.com) and offers close
access to both the track and to  the many attractions of the Monterey Bay
area.A block of rooms has been reserved for FOT members at the rate of
$155.00/night (plus tax). Rooms are 2-room suites and include daily
complimentary breakfast and Manager's cocktail reception. For  additional
information, terms and conditions, and to make a  reservation please
visit:http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/groups/personalized/M/MRYESES-FOT
-20110605/index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POGGroup Name: Friends of TriumphGroup Code:
FOT


Check-in:   05-JUN-2011

Check-out:  09-JUN-2011

Hotel Name: Embassy Suites Monterey Bay - Seaside

Hotel Address:  1441 Canyon Del Rey

    Seaside, California

    93955

Phone Number:   831-393-1115



The Embassy Suites management has shown real excitement at the idea of

hosting our fine group! With a satisfactory number of reservations,

they have offered to set-up exclusive receptions and to provide

dedicated parking lot  facilities for us. I encourage you to make your

reservation as early as possible. Monterey, California is a well known

resort area so there are many options for accommodations at various

price levels. A partial listing can be seen at:
http://www.mazdaraceway.com/pages/hotels



For those interested in camping sites/RV hook-ups, these are reserved

through Monterey County Parks (888-588-2267) in campsites located just

outside of the Raceway, however, reservations will not be taken until

late January. We are also trying to get information on overnighting at

the track which is restricted. Please stay tuned for more information

to follow.



John Frymark

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From N197TR4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 19 11:56:22 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:56:22 EST
Subject: [Fot] 2011 LAGUNA SECA    KASTNER CUP SERIES #9   ANY QUESTIONS?
Message-ID: <114a9b.2664d311.3a688dd6@cs.com>

FOT,

The Kastner Cup Committee is scheduled to meet on the 29th of January. The 
meeting will include the owner of  HMSA.

I assume there are questions from the FOT. This would be a good time to ask 
them.

Send to me and I will summarize and submit to the KCUP Committee for their 
review on the 29th.

If your status has changed with regard to attendance or entry, please let 
me know and we will update the list of entrants and guests.

NOTE:  VARA is offering a special package to those who wish to run their 
event at Button Willow, the weekend prior to Laguna Seca.  This involves both 
reduced cost of entry and reduced track time.  This makes an excelllent 
opportunity to run another track, get some test and tune time in, and experience 
the camaraderie of the FOT. The option of running up the coast line in 
sight of the Pacific Ocean is a wonderful idea.

Regards,

Joe Alexander</HTML>


From trmarty at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 23 07:58:49 2011
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:58:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Cam Question
Message-ID: <BLU156-w39545ADE22E552C441FBEBBAFA0@phx.gbl>

I'm in the process of tearing down the 1296 spit engine. Camshaft is
identified as a K5729 REED. Anybody running this cam and have a spec sheet
stuck in a drawer?

Thanks,
Marty


From chasgee at aol.com  Sun Jan 23 12:14:38 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:14:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] DCOE Weber and Cannon manifold for Spitfire
Message-ID: <8CD8948EA1AEAB8-1230-2A33C@webmail-m100.sysops.aol.com>

Hi All,

I have a 40 DCOE Weber/Cannon manifold set, ready to bolt on a 1300 or 1500
Spitfire.  Anyone interested?  $400 plus shipping.  Let me know.

Thanks,

Chuck Gee


From tr4.tony at virgin.net  Sun Jan 23 12:50:08 2011
From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (tr4.tony e-mail)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:50:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Lawrencetune Rocker Cover and Weber Manifolds
Message-ID: <AANLkTimHwofvdtxBfMzT32qd5XgXWbDdE8S_3_A2Fe3s@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

Ive got a NOS Lawrencetune alloy rocker cover and a pair of the marked weber
manifolds which I wont use now - Ive put them on ebay uk but if any listers
are interested email me at tr4.tony at virgin.net and they are yours minus the
ebay fee! Both items are new an unused, and ive just had them machined up on
a good 511695 head, so all thats needed is the internal port matching etc.
etc.

Just sent the other set of manifolds by DHL to the US for #30, so this is
the cheapest way as the post prices from the UK here are getting crazy so
beware !

Regards and best to all

Tony


From N197TR4 at cs.com  Sun Jan 23 13:54:28 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:54:28 EST
Subject: [Fot] LAGUNA SECA   7-8 JUNE 2011   KASTNER CUP SERIES #9
Message-ID: <d21a3.6a1e5031.3a6def84@cs.com>

Some musings and information:

I am looking forward to running Laguna Seca.  This is to be a family event 
with my sons running the TR4.   Once in a lifetime opportunity for many of 
us.

Our KCUP committee is having a planning meeting on the 29th of January and 
it will include Cris Vandagriff of HMSA.  There should be a lot of 
information that comes out of this meeting. 

It's a long tow for many of us, but I know that there are already 
reservations in place from Ohio and Texas. Hope to see many folks there.  We also 
have some very special guests that have reservations made for travel and 
lodging. This includes folks from the UK and Ohio.

At least one FOT plans to run the VARA event the weekend prior, at Button 
Willow. I am sure there are more.  

I got a call on Friday from one of the Co-Chairs of the BUTTON WILLOW 
British Extravaganza and they will be extending a special invitation to the FOT. 
The VARA Board of Directors will be meeting early February. On the agenda is 
how they make their event very attractive to us FOT folks with long tows 
from the east. We should hear about their plans very quickly following their 
board meeting.

I suspect Kas & Peg will be stopping off at Button Willow enroute to Laguna 
Seca, too. This seems like an great opportunity for a FOT Pre-Party 
followed by a trip up the Pacific Coast Highway past the Hearst Castle and Big Sur.

Those coming in from the north will likely stop off at Infineon for the 
CSRG event. Always good to have choices.

See you there.

Joe Alexander</HTML>


From horizonracing at msn.com  Sun Jan 23 14:53:35 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:53:35 -0800
Subject: [Fot] LAGUNA SECA   7-8 JUNE 2011   KASTNER CUP SERIES #9
In-Reply-To: <d21a3.6a1e5031.3a6def84@cs.com>
References: <d21a3.6a1e5031.3a6def84@cs.com>
Message-ID: <SNT141-w23C2274ABE71FAE8920DDEB2FA0@phx.gbl>

Joe,
Just to Clarify , The Infineon event is a" General Racing inc" event, not
CSRG. I know that Jeff Quick has been invited to attend with his TR4A. This
event has a couple a different feature cars this year. McLaren (I heard Bobby
Rahal is in a ex BMMR factory M8D), 50's sports cars and 50's front engine
Grand prix cars . Something like 375/400 cars.

Thank you
Tony

> From: N197TR4 at cs.com
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:54:28 -0500
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] LAGUNA SECA 7-8 JUNE 2011 KASTNER CUP SERIES #9
>
> Some musings and information:
>
> I am looking forward to running Laguna Seca. This is to be a family event
> with my sons running the TR4. Once in a lifetime opportunity for many of
> us.
>
> Our KCUP committee is having a planning meeting on the 29th of January and
> it will include Cris Vandagriff of HMSA. There should be a lot of
> information that comes out of this meeting.
>
> It's a long tow for many of us, but I know that there are already
> reservations in place from Ohio and Texas. Hope to see many folks there. We
also
> have some very special guests that have reservations made for travel and
> lodging. This includes folks from the UK and Ohio.
>
> At least one FOT plans to run the VARA event the weekend prior, at Button
> Willow. I am sure there are more.
>
> I got a call on Friday from one of the Co-Chairs of the BUTTON WILLOW
> British Extravaganza and they will be extending a special invitation to the
FOT.
> The VARA Board of Directors will be meeting early February. On the agenda is
> how they make their event very attractive to us FOT folks with long tows
> from the east. We should hear about their plans very quickly following their
> board meeting.
>
> I suspect Kas & Peg will be stopping off at Button Willow enroute to Laguna
> Seca, too. This seems like an great opportunity for a FOT Pre-Party
> followed by a trip up the Pacific Coast Highway past the Hearst Castle and
Big Sur.
>
> Those coming in from the north will likely stop off at Infineon for the
> CSRG event. Always good to have choices.
>
> See you there.
>
> Joe Alexander</HTML>
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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Sun Jan 23 14:53:43 2011
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:53:43 +1000
Subject: [Fot] floods in australia
Message-ID: <AANLkTimibPz1kzmuDM2Qmfd4x+f-SWYKPhrVHrnmoKyD@mail.gmail.com>

many thanks to all the FOT'ers who emailed us about the floods. we are in
Ipswich where the worst flooding occurred, but thankfully home and cars are
high & dry, and we are all safe. unfortunately our chassis dyno
was completely submerged along with numerous cars etc at our son-in-laws
workshop. numerous people have however lost their lives and/or livelihood.
To give you an idea of the scale of the problem, 80% of the state of
Queensland has been declared a disaster area. Whilst sparsely populated, it
is many times the size of most US States and I'm told equal to France &
Germany combined. About 30,000 homes & businesses are directly affected,
 with many seriously. Some washed away, some completely submerged. Other
areas are now bracing for similar flooding due to the combination of
never-seen rainfall, dams already full and regular king tides making
drainage to sea more difficult.
For the past 2 weeks, most locals have been brooming mud out of house,
stripping plaster walls, re-wiring  etc. In some near-river suburbs, the
entire contents of hundreds of homes has been stripped and dumped. its all a
bit heartbreaking.

Terry O'Beirne


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Mon Jan 24 13:28:26 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:28:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
Message-ID: <000001cbbc05$42f6f3d0$c8e4db70$@com>

I just got my copy of the March issue of Classic Motorsports and there is a
news release on Pg. 106 about new Nitrophyl floats for the SU H6 carbs from
Joe Curto Inc..  I had procrastinated on trying to duplicate the aluminum
ones that Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer had made and am glad I did so.  I
just ordered 2 of the floats for our H6 carbs on the 1961 TR4 race car from
Joe for $22.50 each.  Seems like a bargain for floats that won't leak.
The Nitrophyl is "a foamlike elastomer that's resistant to modern fuels,
including ethanol" according to the press release.  We'll try them out this
summer.  I was starting to run out of the brass floats that didn't leak.

 

No commercial interest.

 

Tim Murphy


From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 24 14:40:41 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:40:41 EST
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
Message-ID: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/24/2011 2:49:57 PM Central Standard Time, 
timmurph at fastbytes.com writes:


> I just got my copy of the March issue of Classic Motorsports and there is 
> a
> news release on Pg. 106 about new Nitrophyl floats for the SU H6 carbs 
> from
> Joe Curto Inc..  I had procrastinated on trying to duplicate the aluminum
> ones that Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer had made and am glad I did so.  I
> just ordered 2 of the floats for our H6 carbs on the 1961 TR4 race car 
> from
> Joe for $22.50 each.  Seems like a bargain for floats that won't leak.
> The Nitrophyl is "a foamlike elastomer that's resistant to modern fuels,
> including ethanol" according to the press release.  We'll try them out 
> this
> summer.  I was starting to run out of the brass floats that didn't leak.
> 
> 

Where the hell did you find brass floats that didn't leak?

Bill (Damdinger)


From tlizzard at msn.com  Mon Jan 24 15:10:55 2011
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:10:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
In-Reply-To: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
References: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds17C56929182E13E312BE8BC3FD0@phx.gbl>

  Where the hell did you find brass floats that didn't leak?

  Bill (Damdinger)

  There is no such thing anymore!  They all leak.

  Terry Stetler


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Mon Jan 24 16:04:20 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:04:20 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
In-Reply-To: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
References: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000601cbbc1b$08f08370$1ad18a50$@com>

Okay, let me rephrase that.  I'm starting to run out of brass floats that
don't leak yet!

 

From: BillDentin at aol.com [mailto:BillDentin at aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:41 PM
To: timmurph at fastbytes.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto

 

In a message dated 01/24/2011 2:49:57 PM Central Standard Time,
timmurph at fastbytes.com writes:





I just got my copy of the March issue of Classic Motorsports and there is a
news release on Pg. 106 about new Nitrophyl floats for the SU H6 carbs from
Joe Curto Inc..  I had procrastinated on trying to duplicate the aluminum
ones that Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer had made and am glad I did so.  I
just ordered 2 of the floats for our H6 carbs on the 1961 TR4 race car from
Joe for $22.50 each.  Seems like a bargain for floats that won't leak.
The Nitrophyl is "a foamlike elastomer that's resistant to modern fuels,
including ethanol" according to the press release.  We'll try them out this
summer.  I was starting to run out of the brass floats that didn't leak.



Where the hell did you find brass floats that didn't leak?

Bill (Damdinger)


From billdentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 24 16:53:44 2011
From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:53:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
In-Reply-To: <69ECC61D87804898896B591E08FCA74D@roberta16b8c09>
References: <10958.377d5f65.3a6f4bf3@aol.com>
	<69ECC61D87804898896B591E08FCA74D@roberta16b8c09>
Message-ID: <8CD8A39118B2262-F00-2A68@webmail-m071.sysops.aol.com>

Bob Wismer writes:  Finally......He is about 2 years late for us, but good for
the other TR owners. The solution is what I discussed with Jack Drews and he
passed.........not his thing...Wismer

I think you and Jack knew what the fix was back then, and I remeber Jack
spending 'some' effort on it, but understood him to say the quantities (at
least the numbers he was using) could not attract interests from the people he
contacted.  Time change.  Hooray for our side!.

Bill Dentinger


From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon Jan 24 17:38:43 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:38:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] question about Southwick axle mod
In-Reply-To: <1825764439.1608975.1295902745206.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1099896219.1622898.1295915923824.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hello FoT, 
Has anyone ever noticed the location of the Ford flanges to be offset or not centered on the axle tubes? 
I've talked with Southwick and they said their jig centers and squares to the inner bearing, but I'm curios if others have noticed this. 


Comments appreciated, 
Dave H. 


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Tue Jan 25 11:51:27 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:51:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Second badge run
Message-ID: <B62535F6-D31F-4401-9C23-A89326633791@aol.com>

Amici
Second run has arrived.  If you have paid for one it will be shipped out soon

Thanks

Chris


From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Jan 25 12:32:53 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:32:53 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Second badge run
References: <B62535F6-D31F-4401-9C23-A89326633791@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D1CCD479397D4C4BBC6E1B9E51A5DFA7@Bud>

Thanks Chris!
Racer Bud
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To: "FoTTriumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Second badge run


> Amici
> Second run has arrived.  If you have paid for one it will be shipped out 
> soon
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Tue Jan 25 20:30:01 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:30:01 GMT
Subject: [Fot] question about Southwick axle mod
Message-ID: <20110125.223001.4860.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

I had not noticed this on the one that I had Southwick make (I did not really
look), but I later had ends welded on another axle using my own jig and
noticed that when centered on the diff bearings the small ford ends were not
perfectly centered on the tubes.  My axle tubes, however, had brackets welded
on them for the 4-link system, which likely warped them.   I also welded the
tubes to the carrier housing and noticed that as I did this the tubes would
shift around.  Do all your welding before having the small ford ends welded
on.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: davehogye <dlhogye at comcast.net>
To: Fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] question about Southwick axle mod
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:38:43 +0000 (UTC)

Hello FoT,
Has anyone ever noticed the location of the Ford flanges to be offset or not
centered on the axle tubes?
I've talked with Southwick and they said their jig centers and squares to the
inner bearing, but I'm curios if others have noticed this.


Comments appreciated,
Dave H.
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From N197TR4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 26 10:56:30 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:56:30 EST
Subject: [Fot] MADMARX VITON SEAL - Need Cores
Message-ID: <423de.68b669b0.3a71ba4e@cs.com>

FOT.......somewhat commercial.

Christian Marx' new seal design has demand outstripping supply.

It seems to be a brilliant design, especially if you do everything right as 
you should, in the final assembly of the engine....see Kas' new book on 
this.

I just received some more of the seals, and expect more in the near future.

Engine builders are ordering multiple units and CORES are slow to come in.  
So we have a bottle neck in delivery. 

At the moment there is no margin on the seals that come to North America 
and we are trying to keep the price low.  We have the hope that if we keep 
supplying, eventually a reasonable margin will come our way. Price may have to 
increase in the future, too.

So:

If you want a MADMARX VITON SEAL KIT please send me your interest and I 
will put you on the Seal Kit Register and will inform you when modified scrolls 
are available.

Some of the FOT have sent me extra OEM Scrolls that they had on the shelf 
with no plans to use.  This gave me a 'float' of 10-15 scrolls, but with the 
demand it is not enough. If you want to support this program, it seems 
worthwhile. Let me know, if you can.

THANKS!

Joe A.

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed Jan 26 15:35:42 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:35:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <589218.10725.qm@smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I would like to nominate Craig Leinicke , a Triumph racer to the group. Here
is a short introduction taken from a couple of Craig's emails. He will add
to the background later.
 
Craig  used to race EP TR3's for years and then  raced a TR7 in IT for 5
years. 
He raced with Triumph national championship drivers Hardy Prentice and Jack
Wheeler in the 1983 SCCA National Runoffs at Road Atlanta. Jack Wheeler and
he were friends at that time and he raced with a few of Jack's cast off
parts.
 Craig is doing some land speed racing  with TR7 .
 His stuff is online at:
 <http://www.flashbackracing.com> http://www.flashbackracing.com 
 
Very interesting guy and I'm sure will fit right in with the group.
 
Paul MacDonald
 
Can't have too many Wedge racers in the group..... 


From budscars at comcast.net  Wed Jan 26 16:40:22 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:40:22 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [TTSCC] Fw: HELP WITH HISTORY OF MY RACECAR. [1
	Attachment]
Message-ID: <C8A536BCBFDB4C76A5847F0C38F41F2F@Bud>

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Hi Gang...I'm trying to put together some history of my Spitfire Racecar...The
dark blue #21 that I race with CSRG...The photos are how the car was raced in
the San Francisco Region SCCA.

SCCA solo 1 from 1977 through 1981 by Bill Gee(William George Gee)(Monterey,
Ca. area)
SCCA Regionals and Solo 1 1985 and 1986 by Ron Jardine(San Jose, CA. area).

The car was given to Triumphs Only in San Jose(now Stockton) in 1996...and was
rescued in 1997..
Any help will be appreciated.
scroll down for the link to photos
Thanks!
Racer Bud




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From budscars at comcast.net  Wed Jan 26 18:07:31 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:07:31 -0800
Subject: [Fot] SPITFIRE HISTORY
Message-ID: <4F690B7370C84DAAB47AE45272E6C614@Bud>

Hi Gang....I found the original owner/racer...of my Spitfire through Triumph
Travelers..


From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan 26 19:10:50 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:10:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
In-Reply-To: <589218.10725.qm@smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <589218.10725.qm@smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <150B2E31-1F28-48D5-B7C5-C691CF017E89@comcast.net>

Land speed racing in a TR7?, very cool. Let me be the first to second  
that.

Jim g


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:35 PM, "macdonaldp" <macdonaldp at rogers.com> wrote:

> I would like to nominate Craig Leinicke , a Triumph racer to the  
> group. Here
> is a short introduction taken from a couple of Craig's emails. He  
> will add
> to the background later.
>
> Craig  used to race EP TR3's for years and then  raced a TR7 in IT  
> for 5
> years.
> He raced with Triumph national championship drivers Hardy Prentice  
> and Jack
> Wheeler in the 1983 SCCA National Runoffs at Road Atlanta. Jack  
> Wheeler and
> he were friends at that time and he raced with a few of Jack's cast  
> off
> parts.
> Craig is doing some land speed racing  with TR7 .
> His stuff is online at:
> <http://www.flashbackracing.com> http://www.flashbackracing.com
>
> Very interesting guy and I'm sure will fit right in with the group.
>
> Paul MacDonald
>
> Can't have too many Wedge racers in the group.....
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From igofaster at att.net  Wed Jan 26 20:23:15 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:23:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
Message-ID: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane? I've 
rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe Curto 
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration 
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings. 


Bobby Whitehead 


From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Jan 26 21:02:09 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:02:09 -0600
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
In-Reply-To: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110127040206.AF47C187643@autox.team.net>

It's possible, but mine have worked fine since 2003 with leaded 110 
octane.  It's the Oxygen sensors that the leaded gas kills.

- Tony

At 09:23 PM 1/26/2011, Bobby Whitehead wrote:
>Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 
>octane? I've
>rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt 
>Joe Curto
>carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration
>between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings.
>
>
>Bobby Whitehead


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 27 01:20:41 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:20:41 +0100
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
In-Reply-To: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601cbbdfb$17a3c1c0$46eb4540$@com>

Bosch says about < 20,000 km with 0,6 g Pb/Liter.

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Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2011 04:23
An: FoT Triumph
Betreff: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane?
I've
rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe
Curto
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low
registration
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings.


Bobby Whitehead
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 27 07:54:33 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:54:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
In-Reply-To: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <459873.66606.qm@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have had the reading differently right out of the box. That is why I use three 
of them (with a rotary switch) and swap them around to verify the bad ones.
Mike
#28 EP TR6




________________________________
From: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
To: FoT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 9:23:15 PM
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane? I've 

rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe Curto 
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration 
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings. 


Bobby Whitehead 
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From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Thu Jan 27 17:54:56 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:54:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Moss Quick Rack for TR4
Message-ID: <4D4213E0.2030208@blacksburg.net>

Folks,
Moss has their quick rack on sale, something over which I've lusted for 
years, but it's for late-model TR4s (after CT20000).  Has anyone tried 
to install it in an earlier car?

TIA

jim

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go


From jaboruch at netzero.net  Thu Jan 27 18:48:01 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:48:01 GMT
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
Message-ID: <20110127.204801.9610.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

The lead should not be an issue, but like anything they can go bad.  Make sure
that the wire connections are all clean.  It would not take much corrosion to
change the readings.  Only use the original connections and wires.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
To: FoT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:23:15 -0800 (PST)

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane?
I've
rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe
Curto
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Fri Jan 28 02:57:41 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:57:41 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
Message-ID: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>

Amici,

Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US. 

I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but
there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc

Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail order
vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?

Thank you !

Cheers!

Alex

(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Jan 28 07:55:24 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:55:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <8CD8D1282914B8D-156C-5254@webmail-stg-m05.sysops.aol.com>

 there are a number of suppliers on the FOT list.

i'd like to think that the contributions trump the commercial aspects.

they should reveal themselves to you...if i try i will miss someone.










-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 3:57 am
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers


Amici,



Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to

order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.



I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but

there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc



Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail order

vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?



Thank you !



Cheers!



Alex



(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jan 28 09:20:27 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:20:27 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>

Here's a few

http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ - Triumph speed parts - Ken 
Gillanders is a great guy and I like to support him
http://www.tildentechnologies.com/ - "Larry Cam" for the TR-2 to 4
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ - Triumph parts - I buy my "tri-metal" 
bearings, payen gaskets and the rear lip seal here - good prices
http://www.mossmotors.com/ - Triumph parts
http://www.goodparts.com/ - TR-6 parts, many performance upgrades
The last 3 all carry my heavy duty front axle kit

Non-Triumph
http://www.Jegs.com - general speed parts, similar to Summit
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ - Weber parts
http://joecurto.com/ - SU carb parts, rebuild, etc
http://www.applehydraulics.com/index.htm - Lever shocks
http://carshopinc.com/ - local speed shop, GREAT prices on many 
things, extensive online catalog - helps if you know the part number you want

- Tony Drews


At 03:57 AM 1/28/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Amici,
>
>Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
>order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>
>I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but
>there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>
>Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail order
>vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>
>Thank you !
>
>Cheers!
>
>Alex
>
>(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
>_______________________________________________
>fot at autox.team.net
>
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>
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From andre at gt6.ca  Fri Jan 28 09:57:03 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:57:03 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
	<20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiny3Q1OzAhwmFQXba2yJP_Bm7KgCciybELto4kk@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/

On 28 January 2011 11:20, Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote:
> Here's a few
>
> http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ - Triumph speed parts - Ken
Gillanders
> is a great guy and I like to support him
> http://www.tildentechnologies.com/ - "Larry Cam" for the TR-2 to 4
> http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ - Triumph parts - I buy my "tri-metal"
bearings,
> payen gaskets and the rear lip seal here - good prices
> http://www.mossmotors.com/ - Triumph parts
> http://www.goodparts.com/ - TR-6 parts, many performance upgrades
> The last 3 all carry my heavy duty front axle kit
>
> Non-Triumph
> http://www.Jegs.com - general speed parts, similar to Summit
> http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ - Weber parts
> http://joecurto.com/ - SU carb parts, rebuild, etc
> http://www.applehydraulics.com/index.htm - Lever shocks
> http://carshopinc.com/ - local speed shop, GREAT prices on many things,
> extensive online catalog - helps if you know the part number you want
>
> - Tony Drews
>
>
> At 03:57 AM 1/28/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>>
>> Amici,
>>
>> Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
>> order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>>
>> I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com,
>> but
>> there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>>
>> Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail
>> order
>> vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>>
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> (TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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>>
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From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Jan 28 10:08:00 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:08:00 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
	<20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <51BFBB47467544FFB01157876EF3C31B@Vista>

Don't forget that I am selling camber compensators for early Spits, Heralds
and Mk1 GT6's.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:20 AM
To: Alexandre Camoletti; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Race parts suppliers

Here's a few

http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ - Triumph speed parts - Ken 
Gillanders is a great guy and I like to support him
http://www.tildentechnologies.com/ - "Larry Cam" for the TR-2 to 4
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ - Triumph parts - I buy my "tri-metal" 
bearings, payen gaskets and the rear lip seal here - good prices
http://www.mossmotors.com/ - Triumph parts
http://www.goodparts.com/ - TR-6 parts, many performance upgrades
The last 3 all carry my heavy duty front axle kit

Non-Triumph
http://www.Jegs.com - general speed parts, similar to Summit
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ - Weber parts
http://joecurto.com/ - SU carb parts, rebuild, etc
http://www.applehydraulics.com/index.htm - Lever shocks
http://carshopinc.com/ - local speed shop, GREAT prices on many 
things, extensive online catalog - helps if you know the part number you
want

- Tony Drews


At 03:57 AM 1/28/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Amici,
>
>Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
>order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>
>I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but
>there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>
>Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail
order
>vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>
>Thank you !
>
>Cheers!
>
>Alex
>
>(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
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>
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From riverside at southslope.net  Fri Jan 28 16:01:17 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:01:17 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spit  valves
Message-ID: <587762AE3C3D41A19274C1FF05A4BD14@rileyPC>

Does anybody have some wisdom to share regarding installing
larger  valves in Spit 1500 heads.   Building a fairly stout
autoX engine with probably about 270 cam, 9:1 or
so compression, header,  two 40 DCOEbs.

Thanks!!

art de armond


From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Jan 28 17:52:43 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:52:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spit  valves
In-Reply-To: <587762AE3C3D41A19274C1FF05A4BD14@rileyPC>
References: <587762AE3C3D41A19274C1FF05A4BD14@rileyPC>
Message-ID: <FB2BA0305F594B8E8053411ED5876E4F@Vista>

There were a couple if years in the mid 70's where the 1500 heads came with
larger exhaust valves.  My recommendation is to start with one of these.  It
minimizes the complications.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside at southslope.net
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 4:01 PM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spit valves

Does anybody have some wisdom to share regarding installing
larger  valves in Spit 1500 heads.   Building a fairly stout
autoX engine with probably about 270 cam, 9:1 or
so compression, header,  two 40 DCOEbs.

Thanks!!

art de armond
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Sat Jan 29 06:31:38 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (dos_gusanos at msn.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:31:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
Message-ID: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>

Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6.
does Moss sell suitable material?   Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sat Jan 29 09:05:39 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:05:39 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
References: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AF29C5EC55054182B76228487C24EEBF@desktop>

I buy mine from British Parts NW.  They have 3 grades of bearings.
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/cat/TR250-TR6--Main%20Engine%20Components
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:31 AM
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings


> Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the 
> TR6.
> does Moss sell suitable material?   Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque
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From vintage.racer at comcast.net  Sat Jan 29 09:12:21 2011
From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:12:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <269435184.1152664.1296317541125.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Henry: 

You can try Basil Adams up here in N.CA., he has a supply of NOS Vandervell bearings. I've purchased sets from him in the past, nice fellow to deal with. Contact at (707)762-0974 or basiladams at yahoo.com. 

Gary 

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:31:38 AM 
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings 

Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6. 
does Moss sell suitable material? Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque 
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sat Jan 29 09:21:41 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:21:41 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
Message-ID: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF, BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Sat Jan 29 09:34:31 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:34:31 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000601cbbfd2$69399590$3bacc0b0$@com>

British Parts NW is where I've gotten the bearings for the TR4 race car.  I
get the "tri-metal" bearings. I'm not sure what the additional cost is over
the "bi-metal" ones but for the work to replace the bearings the incremental
cost would seem worth it.  They are the "King" "County" bearings made in
Israel.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of dos_gusanos at msn.com
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:32 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings

Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6.
does Moss sell suitable material?   Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Jan 29 09:42:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:42:35 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
In-Reply-To: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <000501cbbfd3$8a2a6530$9e7f2f90$@com>

I combined the TR4 version with the later ones:
I just flipped around these o-rings from the TR4 to seal it.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Charly Mitchel
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Januar 2011 17:22
An: Friends
Betreff: [Fot] Trunion seals

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a
flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone
arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF,
BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Jan 29 09:58:09 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:58:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
In-Reply-To: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <CBB5F17F1BA94BE88EF176827756EE96@Vista>

BPNW has it listed for $22.00 per side.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:22 AM
To: Friends
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a
flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone
arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF,
BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Jan 29 10:04:40 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:04:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
In-Reply-To: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <4E66069787CE44B39FBC6AD798F88650@Vista>

660-998  $89.95  MAJOR SUSPENSION KIT (repairs both sides) 

The parts are contained in the above kit from Moss.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:22 AM
To: Friends
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a
flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone
arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF,
BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sat Jan 29 11:37:17 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:37:17 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <BABE17DFEF294475A7FB1F8AB585A1C0@desktop>

Yes I've seen all the kits that the local parts guys sell and they all 
include the cup, flat and O ring in them.  The others are the lower inner 
kit.  What I'm looking for is a solid simple bushing set for the pivot of 
the lower a arms to the trunion.  It seems someone should make one out of 
nylatron or delrin.  Maybe the way to go is make it out of brass.
Any thoughts about that?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

if you look at the description of these or the illustration, they all have 
the numerous parts in them and none contain the simple bushing.
BPNW has it listed for $22.00 per side.
660-998  $89.95  MAJOR SUSPENSION KIT (repairs both sides)
http://www.zeni.net/trf/TR6bluebook/112.php






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
To: "Friends" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals


> Good day all,
> I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and 
> for
> the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
> parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a 
> flat
> washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone 
> arm.
> The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a 
> trunion
> bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF, 
> BPNW
> etc.
> Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's 
> and
> Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your 
> racecars?
>
> Charly Mitchel
> TR6 #44
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From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Sat Jan 29 15:16:35 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:16:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Moss Quick Rack for TR4 - the answer from Moss
Message-ID: <4D4491C3.1020007@blacksburg.net>

I asked about installing Moss' "quick rack" in an early TR4 (different 
rack mounting configuration than later cars).  Here's Moss Tech 
Support's answer:

The term "horizontal mount" refers to the orientation of the U-bolt, not to
the position of the mount itself. The crux is of the interchangeability
issue, is the way these different racks mount, and therefore the specific
design of the rack housing with regards to the mounting. The housing of the
later rack has cast parts which interfere with the early-style mounting
system, and is also missing parts which are necessary for the early-style
mounting system.

So until we can come up with a different design, sorry, you're out of luck.

I've been told by a reliable wrencher that mounting brackets can be 
fabricated, so removing the earlier "ears" and welding the new brackets 
is a possible recourse.

hth

jim

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go



-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go


From barry at penybryn.ca  Sat Jan 29 15:51:22 2011
From: barry at penybryn.ca (Barry Munson)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:51:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT Patches
Message-ID: <000601cbc007$0f305180$2d90f480$@ca>

Amici - I have received a small shipment of the FOT coat of arms embroidered
on an oval background patch, measuring 3 in. X 2 in.. These patches are
identical to the badges that Chris is offering because they are based on the
art work and setup that he provided - thanks to Chris for agreeing to share
this. 

To keep things as simple as possible ( for this kind of endeavour both in
terms of volume, location and cost paypal will not work for me up here in
Canada) any member who would like one (or more) of these patches simply put
$5.00 (cash or cheque) for the first one and $3.00 for any additional ones
into an envelope and send it to me at the following address:

 

Barry Munson

52028 Range Road 224,

Sherwood Park, Alberta,

Canada

T8C 1B7

 

Include your return address and e-mail address and I will mail your patch
the same day and send you an e-mail confirmation.

 

The above costs are based on actual costs with absolutely no mark up or
margin added as this is definitely not a commercial endeavour - the patches
cost $3.00 each and mailing from here is approximately $2.00.

 

As I have no idea what the demand may be I have kept the initial production
run quite small so please bear with me if demand outstrips supply there may
be a slight delay as another production run is ordered.

 

If you have any questions please send me a note.

 

Thanks.

Barry.


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Jan 29 17:21:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:21:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT Patches
In-Reply-To: <000601cbc007$0f305180$2d90f480$@ca>
References: <000601cbc007$0f305180$2d90f480$@ca>
Message-ID: <697A04AE-B399-4E6F-81FC-A96B4AA9E0E2@aol.com>

Amici,
I have personally seen these patches. Quality looks good to me. Price is
excellent!  This is a great addition to your drivers suit! I can't wait to
finish my car and put the badge on the car and the patch on my suit.  Only
question I have is where do I put the patch on my suit?


Chris

On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:51 PM, "Barry Munson" <barry at penybryn.ca> wrote:

> Amici - I have received a small shipment of the FOT coat of arms
embroidered
> on an oval background patch, measuring 3 in. X 2 in.. These patches are
> identical to the badges that Chris is offering because they are based on
the
> art work and setup that he provided - thanks to Chris for agreeing to share
> this.
>
> To keep things as simple as possible ( for this kind of endeavour both in
> terms of volume, location and cost paypal will not work for me up here in
> Canada) any member who would like one (or more) of these patches simply put
> $5.00 (cash or cheque) for the first one and $3.00 for any additional ones
> into an envelope and send it to me at the following address:
>
>
>
> Barry Munson
>
> 52028 Range Road 224,
>
> Sherwood Park, Alberta,
>
> Canada
>
> T8C 1B7
>
>
>
> Include your return address and e-mail address and I will mail your patch
> the same day and send you an e-mail confirmation.
>
>
>
> The above costs are based on actual costs with absolutely no mark up or
> margin added as this is definitely not a commercial endeavour - the patches
> cost $3.00 each and mailing from here is approximately $2.00.
>
>
>
> As I have no idea what the demand may be I have kept the initial production
> run quite small so please bear with me if demand outstrips supply there may
> be a slight delay as another production run is ordered.
>
>
>
> If you have any questions please send me a note.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Barry.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Sat Jan 29 17:21:56 2011
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:21:56 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <3548AF05F1FC4837B4625A036A636FD3@rocky>

Of course a lot of "race parts" are simply stock parts. Your brake pads may 
be trick, but they go in stock calipers, etc. And so...

www.tsimportedautomotive.com - that's Ted Schumacher, a member of this list. 
He's in Ohio
www.the-roadster-factory.com - Pennsylvania
www.victoriabritish.com - Kansas City

Other general speed stuff:
www.speedwaymotors.com - Lincoln, Neb - on a par with Summit and Jeg's - 
calls itself "America's Oldest Speed Shop"

And sometimes I shop on your side of the pond:
www.canleyclassics.com - Warwickshire - I've found stuff there unobtainable 
here, like 4:55 ring & pinion sets for my Spitfire.

--Rocky Entriken


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexandre Camoletti" <ac at camoletti.ch>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:57 AM
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers


> Amici,
>
> Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
> order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>
> I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, 
> but
> there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>
> Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail 
> order
> vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>
> Thank you !
>
> Cheers!
>
> Alex
>
> (TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Sun Jan 30 07:19:19 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (dos_gusanos at msn.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:19:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <000601cbbfd2$69399590$3bacc0b0$@com>
References: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>,
	<000601cbbfd2$69399590$3bacc0b0$@com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-w763D4A3131D6BF86BE45F90E30@phx.gbl>

Good Morning, Thanks to all for all the replies.  As usual the folks on the
list come through again with great information,  and the parts I need at a
great deal.  I guess I should just post everything I need for the
rebuild..................Cheers, Henry Morrison, TR4,6,7,  Albuquerque, NM
>
> Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6.
> does Moss sell suitable material? Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 10:27:58 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:27:58 EST
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
Message-ID: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>

Amici...

I've not watched it yet, but...

My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw this 
DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought 
it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin (tsk) wants 
to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does business 
at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver, he'll do 
whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all of he 
relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But as Jay 
works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes face 
to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to assume 
this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the moviemaking 
ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig Ziglar, 
a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are 
interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there.  Produced by 
Sherwood Pictures.

I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting 
too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax video 
tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also 
found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to get some of 
them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good 
condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not found many in 
car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE 
compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these days.  In 
addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and heavier than 
a car battery.  Great fun & memories.

Bill Dentinger


From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 30 11:31:18 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:31:18 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
In-Reply-To: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E134265B-4AF9-4E0F-ACDB-6FD68B050434@earthlink.net>

http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel-DVD-2007_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ62333947


http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ64427678



~Steve

On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:

Amici...

I've not watched it yet, but...

My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw  
this
DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought
it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin  
(tsk) wants
to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does  
business
at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver,  
he'll do
whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all  
of he
relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But  
as Jay
works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes  
face
to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to  
assume
this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the  
moviemaking
ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig  
Ziglar,
a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are
interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there.   
Produced by
Sherwood Pictures.

I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting
too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax  
video
tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also
found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to  
get some of
them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good
condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not  
found many in
car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE
compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these  
days.  In
addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and  
heavier than
a car battery.  Great fun & memories.

Bill Dentinger
_______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

http://www.fot-racing.com

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From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Jan 30 12:33:35 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:33:35 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
	<E134265B-4AF9-4E0F-ACDB-6FD68B050434@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <80FB77A46F11491A93C246996CBB9A1A@Bud>

The publisher, Thomas Nelson, is a religious book publisher..
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Belfer" <colordog.1 at earthlink.net>
To: <BillDentin at aol.com>
Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...


> http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel-DVD-2007_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ62333947
>
>
> http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ64427678
>
>
>
> ~Steve
>
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>
> Amici...
>
> I've not watched it yet, but...
>
> My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw 
> this
> DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought
> it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin  (tsk) 
> wants
> to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does 
> business
> at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver,  he'll 
> do
> whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all  of 
> he
> relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But  as 
> Jay
> works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes 
> face
> to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to  assume
> this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the 
> moviemaking
> ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig 
> Ziglar,
> a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are
> interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there. 
> Produced by
> Sherwood Pictures.
>
> I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting
> too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax 
> video
> tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also
> found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to  get 
> some of
> them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good
> condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not  found 
> many in
> car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE
> compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these  days. 
> In
> addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and  heavier 
> than
> a car battery.  Great fun & memories.
>
> Bill Dentinger
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Jan 30 12:38:25 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:38:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
In-Reply-To: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD8ECC65628191-10A0-11B9A@webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com>

 independent film produced by church group.

it gained some traction in sales and went beyond 100,000, i believe.

not as compelling in story line as some but the message doesnt beat you up.

the cover shows the WHITE TR3A like mine and I bought it as a collectible.

joe a








-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin at aol.com
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 11:27 am
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...


Amici...



I've not watched it yet, but...



My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw this

DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought

it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin (tsk) wants

to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does business

at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver, he'll do

whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all of he

relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But as Jay

works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes face

to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to assume

this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the moviemaking

ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig Ziglar,

a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are

interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there.  Produced

by

Sherwood Pictures.



I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting

too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax video

tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also

found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to get some
of

them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good

condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not found many

in

car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE

compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these days.  In

addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and heavier than

a car battery.  Great fun & memories.



Bill Dentinger

_______________________________________________

fot at autox.team.net



http://www.fot-racing.com



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From kaskas at cox.net  Sun Jan 30 12:38:56 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:38:56 -0800
Subject: [Fot] FOT Patches
In-Reply-To: <697A04AE-B399-4E6F-81FC-A96B4AA9E0E2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110130143856.28MDY.1016240.imail@fed1rmwml37>

Over your heart, of course.-


--- Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com> wrote: 

=============
Amici,
I have personally seen these patches. Quality looks good to me. Price is
excellent!  This is a great addition to your drivers suit! I can't wait to
finish my car and put the badge on the car and the patch on my suit.  Only
question I have is where do I put the patch on my suit?


Chris

On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:51 PM, "Barry Munson" <barry at penybryn.ca> wrote:

> Amici - I have received a small shipment of the FOT coat of arms
embroidered
> on an oval background patch, measuring 3 in. X 2 in.. These patches are
> identical to the badges that Chris is offering because they are based on
the
> art work and setup that he provided - thanks to Chris for agreeing to share
> this.
>
> To keep things as simple as possible ( for this kind of endeavour both in
> terms of volume, location and cost paypal will not work for me up here in
> Canada) any member who would like one (or more) of these patches simply put
> $5.00 (cash or cheque) for the first one and $3.00 for any additional ones
> into an envelope and send it to me at the following address:
>
>
>
> Barry Munson
>
> 52028 Range Road 224,
>
> Sherwood Park, Alberta,
>
> Canada
>
> T8C 1B7
>
>
>
> Include your return address and e-mail address and I will mail your patch
> the same day and send you an e-mail confirmation.
>
>
>
> The above costs are based on actual costs with absolutely no mark up or
> margin added as this is definitely not a commercial endeavour - the patches
> cost $3.00 each and mailing from here is approximately $2.00.
>
>
>
> As I have no idea what the demand may be I have kept the initial production
> run quite small so please bear with me if demand outstrips supply there may
> be a slight delay as another production run is ordered.
>
>
>
> If you have any questions please send me a note.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Barry.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From triumphs at consolidated.net  Sun Jan 30 12:52:04 2011
From: triumphs at consolidated.net (Ken Gano, home PC)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:52:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FDA7C75C795147D7B58A453BE93EB7CD@0817C93C637E473>

Don't bother.  I got it from Netflix last year and could not even finish it. 
It was strictly right wing religious propaganda and had virtually nothing to 
do with cars.  A total waste of time and brain cells.

Gano

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...


> Amici...
>
> I've not watched it yet, but...
>
> My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw 
> this
> DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought
> it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin (tsk) 
> wants
> to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does 
> business
> at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver, he'll do
> whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all of he
> relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But as 
> Jay
> works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes 
> face
> to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to assume
> this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the 
> moviemaking
> ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig 
> Ziglar,
> a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are
> interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there. 
> Produced by
> Sherwood Pictures.
>
> I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting
> too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax 
> video
> tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also
> found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to get 
> some of
> them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good
> condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not found 
> many in
> car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE
> compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these days. 
> In
> addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and heavier 
> than
> a car battery.  Great fun & memories.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From jsclark at live.ca  Sun Jan 30 17:26:46 2011
From: jsclark at live.ca (Jeff Clark)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:26:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Hello FOT
Message-ID: <BLU158-w320094BA7C1574C2E4D22AAEE20@phx.gbl>

Hello FOT
I was recently nominated by Mike Derweerd and seconded by Andre Rousseau both
fellow racers in VARAC. I live just outside Ottawa,Ontario,Canada .At 47 years
old I thought racing would be a good hobby. I bought a 1971 GT6 a couple of
years ago as an ex SCCA race car that originally raced at Watkins Glen. It was
advertised on Kijiji and looked pretty sad when I went to see it (I've
attached a before and after picture) but I bought it anyway.This is my first
experience with a Britsh car,my rides till the Triumph were either American
mussel (Chevelles) or Japanese cars (Celicas). I just received Kas Kastner's
books to see how I can make it better,but since last year was my first as a
novice driver I intend to make improvements slowly as the biggest limitation
will probably be the driver. Now for a question,the car is running with the
3:89 overdrive diff at present and I would like to find a 4:11. Can anyone
tell me if I can use the gear out of a Spitfire? Thanks
Jeff Clark

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From Gt6steve at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 18:09:05 2011
From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:09:05 EST
Subject: [Fot] Hello FOT
Message-ID: <1ec10.2cbb7d30.3a7765b1@aol.com>

Yes and no Jeff,
 
Firstly welcome,
 
Andre has made you known to us already.
 
You can use the diff out of the 71 on Spittys, large output shafts.   The 
early cars had a smaller splined shaft but I have no idea what size it  was.  
Just smaller...;-))
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/2011 4:34:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jsclark at live.ca writes:

Hello  FOT
I was recently nominated by Mike Derweerd and seconded by Andre  Rousseau 
both
fellow racers in VARAC. I live just outside  Ottawa,Ontario,Canada .At 47 
years
old I thought racing would be a good  hobby. I bought a 1971 GT6 a couple of
years ago as an ex SCCA race car  that originally raced at Watkins Glen. It 
was
advertised on Kijiji and  looked pretty sad when I went to see it (I've
attached a before and after  picture) but I bought it anyway.This is my 
first
experience with a Britsh  car,my rides till the Triumph were either American
mussel (Chevelles) or  Japanese cars (Celicas). I just received Kas 
Kastner's
books to see how I  can make it better,but since last year was my first as a
novice driver I  intend to make improvements slowly as the biggest 
limitation
will probably  be the driver. Now for a question,the car is running with the
3:89  overdrive diff at present and I would like to find a 4:11. Can anyone
tell  me if I can use the gear out of a Spitfire? Thanks
Jeff  Clark

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sun Jan 30 18:50:50 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:50:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <2036843479.1917423.1296436876346.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <364252897.1918691.1296438650510.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hello all,
I recently received a housing back from Southwick and have come up with a
question regarding this conversion and TR3s specifically. I think that Bob
sets the conversion to the stock TR3 length. I'm wondering if it's worth
keeping some extra length on the axle tubes for the TR3s. There is an issue
with where the weld is for the Ford flange and the U bolts. The weld has to be
ground to fit the bolts. Wouldn't it be worth leaving a little more length on
the axle tubes? Then no grinding of the weld would be needed. There really
isn't that much weld on there. I think that as little as 1/8" added on each
side would alleviate any grinding or most of it, but 1/4" would be great. It
looks like Southwick cuts at least 1/4" off before the old flange. Perhaps we
could leave that much on. I've read the related archives and found that there
have been TR3s with TR4 axle under them. So, fender clearance shouldn't be an
issue. Any thoughts or comments on this would be nice, although it's a little
late for me, others may benefit from the info. Obviously, Southwick would make
the change between themselves and Moser.
Thanks,
Dave H.


From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sun Jan 30 19:09:31 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:09:31 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <364252897.1918691.1296438650510.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <2036843479.1917423.1296436876346.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<364252897.1918691.1296438650510.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <012101cbc0eb$e66a8820$0301a8c0@randall>

> I've read the related archives and 
> found that there
> have been TR3s with TR4 axle under them. So, fender clearance 
> shouldn't be an issue.

My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with fender
clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest tires
I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually damage
the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
otherwise dead stock suspension.

The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a TR3
axle.

-- Randall  


From jaboruch at netzero.net  Sun Jan 30 19:27:21 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 02:27:21 GMT
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Message-ID: <20110130.212721.6855.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

Dave, I added 3/8 inch to each side of the TR4 axle housing and axle shafts
that I have under my TR3.  I, however, have big widened and flared fenders, so
clearance is not an issue for my car.  Sorry, but can't help you with what
will fit under stock TR3 fenders.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: davehogye <dlhogye at comcast.net>
To: Fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:50:50 +0000 (UTC)

Hello all,
I recently received a housing back from Southwick and have come up with a
question regarding this conversion and TR3s specifically. I think that Bob
sets the conversion to the stock TR3 length. I'm wondering if it's worth
keeping some extra length on the axle tubes for the TR3s. There is an issue
with where the weld is for the Ford flange and the U bolts. The weld has to
be
ground to fit the bolts. Wouldn't it be worth leaving a little more length on
the axle tubes? Then no grinding of the weld would be needed. There really
isn't that much weld on there. I think that as little as 1/8" added on each
side would alleviate any grinding or most of it, but 1/4" would be great. It
looks like Southwick cuts at least 1/4" off before the old flange. Perhaps we
could leave that much on. I've read the related archives and found that there
have been TR3s with TR4 axle under them. So, fender clearance shouldn't be an
issue. Any thoughts or comments on this would be nice, although it's a little
late for me, others may benefit from the info. Obviously, Southwick would
make
the change between themselves and Moser.
Thanks,
Dave H.
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 19:50:08 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:50:08 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 50, Issue 31
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8330.1296439761.23296.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.8330.1296439761.23296.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4F68A872-2629-4200-8EF8-A86141E4B172@aol.com>

Over your heart or anywhere else on your suit, best to use Nomex  
thread (and not polyester!) Good to have some if you need any mending,  
too.

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=NOMEXTHREAD

John Frymark

On Jan 30, 2011, at 6:09 PM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:38:56 -0800
> From: Kas Kastner <kaskas at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT Patches
> To: Barry Munson <barry at penybryn.ca>, Christopher Bock
> 	<SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
> Cc: "<fot at autox.team.net>" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Message-ID: <20110130143856.28MDY.1016240.imail at fed1rmwml37>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Over your heart, of course.-


From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 31 07:40:09 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:40:09 EST
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Message-ID: <35da6.57eac8a0.3a7823c9@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time, 
TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:


> My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with 
> fender
> clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest 
> tires
> I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually 
> damage
> the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> otherwise dead stock suspension.
> 
> The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a 
> TR3
> axle.
> 

I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders 
rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we 
probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body shop 
guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result.  
Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.

Bill Dentinger


From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net  Mon Jan 31 08:18:02 2011
From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:18:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <35da6.57eac8a0.3a7823c9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by Eastwood
works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for cracking
the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid cracking
as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
-Ed-

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:


From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM


In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:


> My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> fender
> clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> tires
> I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> damage
> the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> otherwise dead stock suspension.
>
> The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> TR3
> axle.
>

I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
shop
guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result. 
Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.

Bill Dentinger
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From bownes at seiri.com  Mon Jan 31 08:25:40 2011
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:25:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <35da6.57eac8a0.3a7823c9@aol.com>
	<670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNECTuA3mS=YPya5r19VC+JekXv-Oz6YGw5U4z@mail.gmail.com>

I seem to recall/have heard a few stories that Kas worked a few wonders with
fender 'manipulation' on a few of the cars over the years. :)


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM, EDWARD BARNARD
<edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>wrote:

> If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by
> Eastwood
> works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
> pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for
> cracking
> the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid
> cracking
> as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
> -Ed-
>
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
> To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM
>
>
> In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:
>
>
> > My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> > fender
> > clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> > tires
> > I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> > damage
> > the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> > otherwise dead stock suspension.
> >
> > The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> > TR3
> > axle.
> >
>
> I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
> rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
> probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
> shop
> guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result.
> Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 31 09:04:48 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:04:48 EST
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Message-ID: <19e9cd.68d36cd5.3a7837a0@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/31/2011 9:25:44 AM Central Standard Time, 
bownes at seiri.com writes:


> I seem to recall/have heard a few stories that Kas worked a few wonders 
> with fender 'manipulation' on a few of the cars over the years. :)
> 
> 

That's exactly where I got the idea.  I was having trouble getting a set of 
vintage Goodyear Blue Streaks to fit on the car.  Originally, the rear 
tires were rubbing inside on the leaf springs; in spite of the fact that they 
have been 'carved out'..  Kas emailed me and asked if I was using wheel shims. 
 I told him that I had some, but couldn't use them because the tires would 
then rub on the outside.  He told me how to roll the fenders.  

Like I said...it worked slick.

Bill Dentinger


From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Mon Jan 31 09:32:12 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:32:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110131163212.ECCAB.35535.root@cdptpa-web17-z01>

If you look through the internet, there are folks that will rent it to you.

Bob
---- EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net> wrote: 
> If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by Eastwood
> works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
> pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for cracking
> the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid cracking
> as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
> -Ed-
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
> To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM
> 
> 
> In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:
> 
> 
> > My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> > fender
> > clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> > tires
> > I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> > damage
> > the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> > otherwise dead stock suspension.
> >
> > The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> > TR3
> > axle.
> >
> 
> I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
> rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
> probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
> shop
> guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result. 
> Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
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From kaskas at cox.net  Mon Jan 31 10:32:26 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 9:32:26 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimNECTuA3mS=YPya5r19VC+JekXv-Oz6YGw5U4z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110131123226.DLRWU.1037004.imail@fed1rmwml39>

On some occasions I have been known to roll a fender a little to clear some new type tires.  I  just used a round jack stand holding the shank part between the tire and the fender ,  pulling up and then just rolling the car and the tire carries the roll right along.  Three minutes and a whole new deal. The tip about warming the paint though is really a clever idea.
---- robert bownes <bownes at seiri.com> wrote: 

=============
I seem to recall/have heard a few stories that Kas worked a few wonders with
fender 'manipulation' on a few of the cars over the years. :)


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM, EDWARD BARNARD
<edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>wrote:

> If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by
> Eastwood
> works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
> pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for
> cracking
> the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid
> cracking
> as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
> -Ed-
>
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
> To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM
>
>
> In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:
>
>
> > My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> > fender
> > clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> > tires
> > I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> > damage
> > the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> > otherwise dead stock suspension.
> >
> > The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> > TR3
> > axle.
> >
>
> I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
> rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
> probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
> shop
> guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result.
> Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon Jan 31 12:11:18 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:11:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
Message-ID: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

It's good to get some feedback regarding adjusting fender clearance. 
It has been brought to my attention that track may be measured by some racing groups. 
Has anyone had their cars' track scrutinized? 
Tire and wheel size is related to the matter of clearance as well. I believe that TR3s should be to running 5.5" wheels max., but that depends on the race organization. 
What tire, wheel, spacer combinations are being used for TR3s? If spacers are being used, then maybe the axle could be lengthen a bit. 
Could the Southwick conversion for TR3s be lengthened by 1/4" overall? Is it worth going to the trouble of having the option from Southwick? 
Moser cuts and machines the axles, it seams to me that an 1/8" adjustment could be easily made. 
Again, 1/8" would really help the weld grinding situation. There really isn't that much weld on there when compared the the tube thickness. Perhaps no one has had a problem after removing some weld, but I thought this question was worth asking. If added length creates other problems, then it's probably not a good idea. 
Thanks for the commentary, 
Dave H. 


From N197TR4 at cs.com  Mon Jan 31 13:00:45 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:00:45 EST
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
Message-ID: <49a5b.2fc8a4d1.3a786eed@cs.com>

In a message dated 1/31/2011 1:47:47 PM Central Standard Time, 
dlhogye at comcast.net writes:


> Has anyone had their cars' track scrutinized?  NO.
> 

</HTML>


From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon Jan 31 13:19:33 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:19:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
In-Reply-To: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emer
	yville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>

I've never had my track width measured.  The car has only been 
weighed once, and that was voluntary.

- Tony Drews

At 01:11 PM 1/31/2011, davehogye wrote:
>It's good to get some feedback regarding adjusting fender clearance.
>It has been brought to my attention that track may be measured by 
>some racing groups.
>Has anyone had their cars' track scrutinized?
>Tire and wheel size is related to the matter of clearance as well. I 
>believe that TR3s should be to running 5.5" wheels max., but that 
>depends on the race organization.
>What tire, wheel, spacer combinations are being used for TR3s? If 
>spacers are being used, then maybe the axle could be lengthen a bit.
>Could the Southwick conversion for TR3s be lengthened by 1/4" 
>overall? Is it worth going to the trouble of having the option from Southwick?
>Moser cuts and machines the axles, it seams to me that an 1/8" 
>adjustment could be easily made.
>Again, 1/8" would really help the weld grinding situation. There 
>really isn't that much weld on there when compared the the tube 
>thickness. Perhaps no one has had a problem after removing some 
>weld, but I thought this question was worth asking. If added length 
>creates other problems, then it's probably not a good idea.
>Thanks for the commentary,
>Dave H.
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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Mon Jan 31 14:25:04 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:25:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
In-Reply-To: <20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>
References: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <8adec41aabb55de453fee191a2d67aa2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

I've had a car's track measured, but that was at the
SCCA Runoffs when I was crewing for a car that made
it to the podium (in third place).  We just barely made
it, too.

John

On Mon, January 31, 2011 3:19 pm, Tony Drews wrote:
> I've never had my track width measured.  The car has only been
> weighed once, and that was voluntary.
>
> - Tony Drews


From horizonracing at msn.com  Mon Jan 31 15:06:11 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:06:11 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
In-Reply-To: <8adec41aabb55de453fee191a2d67aa2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
References: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>,
	<8adec41aabb55de453fee191a2d67aa2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
Message-ID: <SNT141-w340EB560FB95A4F6782438B2E20@phx.gbl>

 Sovren has and Will check track, wheels size and weigh
> ____________________________________________


From JWoesvra at aol.com  Thu Jan 27 12:15:51 2011
From: JWoesvra at aol.com (JWoesvra at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:15:51 EST
Subject: [Fot] Vintage Race Rules Forum Invitation
Message-ID: <6773.2f8cbbac.3a731e67@aol.com>

The new Vintage Race Rules forum is open and in the testing stages. We have 
 signed over 150 users in the first few days and have some interesting  
dialogue going.
 
_http://www.vintageracerules.com/forums/_ 
(http://www.vintageracerules.com/forums/) 
 
Please check it out and sign up for a user name and try posting. Let us  
know what you think. 
 
The associated website is still under construction and should be on-line  
shortly. It will offer a lot of resources about period rules and regulations, 
 among other things.
 
When you sign in, we need you to put enough info in your profile so that we 
 can screen applicants, to avoid letting spammers in.
 
Report what you think.  It is work in progress.
 
Thanks, Jack and www (the wicked web wench) a.k.a. Barbie
 
Jack Woehrle


From rikrock at live.com  Sun Jan  2 06:41:20 2011
From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:41:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
Message-ID: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>

>From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, Sebring and
others.   www.barcboys.com

Rich Rock


From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Jan  2 11:14:44 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:14:44 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <EAA1A8E1A9E34B8384AA4697C89EC478@Bud>

great website Rich..thanks very much!
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Rock" <rikrock at live.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 5:41 AM
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's


> >From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, 
> >Sebring and
> others.   www.barcboys.com
>
> Rich Rock
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From jason at multivintage.com  Sun Jan  2 14:52:43 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:52:43 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>

I had seen this site before but there is really some depth here. I got lost
in the Sebring section. Man 1963 Sebring must have been a dream day for our
Racing Triumph Fathers. All those TRs going the distance and ahead of so
many great drivers and cars. Keith and John sure are lucky to hold all that
history in the grip of their leather cover hands. Do any of the other cars
survive like the super powered TR3, or the other TR4's?

Also check out the cool photo of the spitfire coupes as a backdrop to
shuffleboard games in the 1965 Sebring Section.

Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com> wrote:

> >From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, Sebring
> and
> others.   www.barcboys.com
>
> Rich Rock
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From mlcooknj at msn.com  Sun Jan  2 20:58:48 2011
From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:58:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w366E33556B488F4D16ED06C8070@phx.gbl>

Looking at the 1965 Sebring pix, I see the caption about Peter Bolton crashing
after five laps. Correctly, it should say: "Peter Bolton did five quick laps
in the Spitfire before being hit from behind by one of the faster cars which
caused him to crash heavily. Fortunately, Peter was not seriously injured."

Memory won't tell me what the car was that hit the Spitfire. Kas may
remember.

In 1963, one of the TR4s was hit from behind by a Cobra, bending the exhaust
pipe which eventually burned through. The hole was below the tunnel and the
hot exhaust burned a hole through the fiber which would catch fire going down
the straight so the drivers had a small fire extinguisher with them to give
the fire a squirt as they braked. Between exhaust fumes, smoke and carbon tet
from the extinguisher it's luck they could concentrate on driving.

In the top row of pictures of Bridgehampton, 1961, page 2, there's a shot of
Fred Gamble in a Maserati, leading Hansgen and Holbert. As a Triumph employee
later that year, Fred participated with me in the first talks with Bob
Tullius. Fred later worked with Kas Kastner to develop the Triumph Racing
Support Program, the first driver support plan by a major manufacturer for
SCCA racing.

Mike Cook

> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:52:43 -0600
> From: jason at multivintage.com
> To: rikrock at live.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
>
> I had seen this site before but there is really some depth here. I got lost
> in the Sebring section. Man 1963 Sebring must have been a dream day for our
> Racing Triumph Fathers. All those TRs going the distance and ahead of so
> many great drivers and cars. Keith and John sure are lucky to hold all that
> history in the grip of their leather cover hands. Do any of the other cars
> survive like the super powered TR3, or the other TR4's?
>
> Also check out the cool photo of the spitfire coupes as a backdrop to
> shuffleboard games in the 1965 Sebring Section.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com> wrote:
>
> > >From tracks in the east. The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro,
Sebring
> > and
> > others. www.barcboys.com
> >
> > Rich Rock
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From mediehljr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  3 04:43:42 2011
From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 03:43:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w366E33556B488F4D16ED06C8070@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTi=6Forx_Bv58vg8SUbRD48JZW6T8BvsBOcpxwyr@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY147-w366E33556B488F4D16ED06C8070@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <404543.63909.qm@web39301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Happy New Year, Mike. One small comment:   The "small fire extinguisher" was the 
drink water bottle. Luckily we never got too thirsty.  Cheers, Ed.
 
Ed Diehl



----- Original Message ----
From: michael cook <mlcooknj at msn.com>
To: jason at multivintage.com; rikrock at live.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 10:58:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's

Looking at the 1965 Sebring pix, I see the caption about Peter Bolton crashing
after five laps. Correctly, it should say: "Peter Bolton did five quick laps
in the Spitfire before being hit from behind by one of the faster cars which
caused him to crash heavily. Fortunately, Peter was not seriously injured."

Memory won't tell me what the car was that hit the Spitfire. Kas may
remember.

In 1963, one of the TR4s was hit from behind by a Cobra, bending the exhaust
pipe which eventually burned through. The hole was below the tunnel and the
hot exhaust burned a hole through the fiber which would catch fire going down
the straight so the drivers had a small fire extinguisher with them to give
the fire a squirt as they braked. Between exhaust fumes, smoke and carbon tet
from the extinguisher it's luck they could concentrate on driving.

In the top row of pictures of Bridgehampton, 1961, page 2, there's a shot of
Fred Gamble in a Maserati, leading Hansgen and Holbert. As a Triumph employee
later that year, Fred participated with me in the first talks with Bob
Tullius. Fred later worked with Kas Kastner to develop the Triumph Racing
Support Program, the first driver support plan by a major manufacturer for
SCCA racing.

Mike Cook

> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:52:43 -0600
> From: jason at multivintage.com
> To: rikrock at live.com
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
>
> I had seen this site before but there is really some depth here. I got lost
> in the Sebring section. Man 1963 Sebring must have been a dream day for our
> Racing Triumph Fathers. All those TRs going the distance and ahead of so
> many great drivers and cars. Keith and John sure are lucky to hold all that
> history in the grip of their leather cover hands. Do any of the other cars
> survive like the super powered TR3, or the other TR4's?
>
> Also check out the cool photo of the spitfire coupes as a backdrop to
> shuffleboard games in the 1965 Sebring Section.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com> wrote:
>
> > >From tracks in the east. The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro,
Sebring
> > and
> > others. www.barcboys.com
> >
> > Rich Rock
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Mon Jan  3 10:45:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:45:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Patches
Message-ID: <C39CC51E-90CE-4BFC-A83A-9A70FA8B5ABD@aol.com>

Amici
Please forgive me but there was a member who asked for patches with the car
badge design.  Please contact me off list.

Thanks


From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Jan  3 12:22:42 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:22:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's
In-Reply-To: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W3429AE81897E61175779A2C6060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <008101cbab7b$992818a0$cb7849e0$@net>

Rich it does bring back memories. I was at the Glen, Lime Rock, Marlboro and
Sebring all thru the 60s

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Rich Rock
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 8:41 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Pics From 50's and 60's

>From tracks in the east.  The Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland, Marlboro, Sebring
and
others.   www.barcboys.com

Rich Rock
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From deweerdm at rogers.com  Mon Jan  3 15:36:43 2011
From: deweerdm at rogers.com (MIKE DEWEERD)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:36:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
Message-ID: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to go
faster next year. 
Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada


From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Jan  3 16:07:48 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:07:48 -0600
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=ugH9MOYrdtczRagetj7k83okxYu=hYRnVK2Zj@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, Another GT6! I will second this nomination.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD <deweerdm at rogers.com> wrote:

>  I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
> go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Jan  3 16:09:22 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:09:22 -0800
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
References: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C20C29BEBA8547758D98FB0A1B8582CB@Bud>

I second the nomination of Jeff Clark.
Racer Bud...Spitfire #21...Sonoma, Ca.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MIKE DEWEERD" <deweerdm at rogers.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 2:36 PM
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark


> I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking 
> to go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon Jan  3 16:10:57 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:10:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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 absolutely!








-----Original Message-----
From: MIKE DEWEERD <deweerdm at rogers.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:36 pm
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark


 I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just

started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with

Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
go

faster next year.

Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Jan  3 16:24:07 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:24:07 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <831467.9282.qm@smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I"ll second that one...need more Triumph racers from Ottawa.

Welcome Jeff

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MIKE DEWEERD
Sent: January 3, 2011 5:37 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark

 I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
go faster next year. 
Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From andre at gt6.ca  Mon Jan  3 18:26:00 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:26:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <831467.9282.qm@smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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	<831467.9282.qm@smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Great guy.

Strong racer.

A.

On 3 January 2011 18:24, macdonaldp <macdonaldp at rogers.com> wrote:
> I"ll second that one...need more Triumph racers from Ottawa.
>
> Welcome Jeff
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MIKE DEWEERD
> Sent: January 3, 2011 5:37 PM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
>
>  I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's looking to
> go faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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Ottawa, ON, Canada


From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan  3 18:28:58 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 20:28:58 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we keeping with the  
custom of having the new guy tell us something about himself and his  
car?

On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:

I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school  
with
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's  
looking to go
faster next year.
Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From andre at gt6.ca  Mon Jan  3 18:47:27 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:47:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
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	<6E305128-3C81-45B4-9C3C-4BE63171B6AB@me.com>
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http://andrerousseau.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/20100926__2036.jpg

There they are.

I tried to climb into the car and left Jeff and Andrew in stitches.

Its sounds so nice.

A.

On 3 January 2011 20:28, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we keeping with the
> custom of having the new guy tell us something about himself and his
> car?
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:
>
> I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school
> with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's
> looking to go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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Ottawa, ON, Canada


From igofaster at att.net  Tue Jan  4 08:09:01 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 07:09:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik-QcNhQNdFRBGNyEOtXmUGwA5tT7mXQKv=7nG2@mail.gmail.com>
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	<6E305128-3C81-45B4-9C3C-4BE63171B6AB@me.com>
	<AANLkTik-QcNhQNdFRBGNyEOtXmUGwA5tT7mXQKv=7nG2@mail.gmail.com>
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another GT6... oh boy! nicely prepared too...

seems Kas' and his new book are bringing the step child of Triumphs out in the 
open... well.... except for Heralds....

Bobby Whitehead




________________________________
From: Andre Rousseau <andre at gt6.ca>
To: Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 7:47:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark

http://andrerousseau.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/20100926__2036.jpg

There they are.

I tried to climb into the car and left Jeff and Andrew in stitches.

Its sounds so nice.

A.

On 3 January 2011 20:28, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we keeping with the
> custom of having the new guy tell us something about himself and his
> car?
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:
>
> I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
> started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school
> with
> Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's
> looking to go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  4 08:44:26 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 07:44:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <292550.18243.qm@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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	<292550.18243.qm@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Wouldn't the Mayflower be the true stepchild?  ;-)

Andy, you know I love them
too....

Jamie Palmer
RiffRAF Racing




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From: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
To: Andre Rousseau <andre at gt6.ca>
Cc: FoT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:09:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark

another GT6... oh boy! nicely
prepared too...

seems Kas' and his new book are bringing the step child of
Triumphs out in the 
open... well.... except for Heralds....

Bobby Whitehead
________________________________
From: Andre Rousseau <andre at gt6.ca>
To: Scott
Janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011
7:47:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
http://andrerousseau.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/20100926__2036.jpg

There
they are.

I tried to climb into the car and left Jeff and Andrew in stitches.
Its sounds so nice.

A.

On 3 January 2011 20:28, Scott Janzen
<sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> definitely a second for another GT6 racer.  Are we
keeping with the
> custom of having the new guy tell us something about
himself and his
> car?
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:36 PM, MIKE DEWEERD wrote:
>
>
I"d like to Nominate a Canadian Triumph racer, Jeff Clark. Jeff has just
>
started Vintage racing his GT6  # 56 last year. I took my race school
> with
>
Jeff he's a great guy from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. and now he's
> looking to
go
> faster next year.
> Mike Deweerd TR4 # 77 Woodstock, Ontario. Canada
>
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  4 09:18:44 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:18:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Question about oil pan baffling...and invitation to join us
Message-ID: <807106.92571.qm@web114709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Your resident ChumpCar TR6 campaigners need a little advice.  I'm guessing
most 
of you have accusump or similar systems on your cars, but we aren't
allowed to 
by the ChumpCar rules and budget restrictions.  Among the races
we're running 
this year are Rockingham and  Charlotte Motor Speedway (road
course 
configurations) where you spend a lot of time on the banking (it's
questionable 
whether or not we will have the speed to actually make it UP the
banking, but at 
least in principle we will...) and we're worried about oil
starvation.  Any 
ideas on pan baffling or some other solution, or are we
worried about nothing?

BTW, if any of you are interested in coming out to
watch and/or play with us 
this year, our schedule is:

March 12-13    
Rockingham, NC (7-hrs each day)
April 23            Charlotte, NC (14-hr)
June
18-19        Roebling Road (7-hrs each day)
July 30-31        VIR (24-hr)
September 3-5    National Chumpionship, Iowa Speedway, 25-hr, multiple track
configurations
September 24    Sebring (14-hr, full course)
October 8-9       
Nelson Ledges, (25-hr 25-minutes)

We'd love to have any fellow FOT'ers out
there.  Lacey (our TR6) is now proudly 
sporting her FOT decals!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader, RiffRAF Racing
http://riffrafracing.blogspot.com (due to be
updated)
http://www.riffrafracing.com (under construction)


From walt at hot-tr6.com  Tue Jan  4 09:47:06 2011
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:47:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] truck with room
Message-ID: <C04A8FC6C6124DE888FB2D6E772FDD99@walt>

Hello, I am moving some furniture for my daughter this weekend, January 8,
2011. I will be going one way from Albuquerque, New Mexico to Las Vegas,
Nevada with a 16' Budget turck and there will be room left over if this
helps any FOT members with anything.
Walt Hollowell
Abq., NM

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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 10:15:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:15:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Patches
Message-ID: <DB5B35AA-3B67-4B88-850C-D12D284C25B2@aol.com>

Amici

I am not trying to get patches made. The badge project was a big enough
undertaking.


Some one had asked me for the badge design because they were looking into
getting patches made

Happy new year
Chris


From dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  4 10:19:42 2011
From: dale.oesterle at sbcglobal.net (dale oesterle)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:19:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Question about flow numbers
In-Reply-To: <807106.92571.qm@web114709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <134501.6932.qm@web82201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have flow bench numbers for a good race head on a 1300 spitfire
(with or without intake manifold)?  Dale Oesterle

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Fot] Question about oil pan baffling...and invitation to join us
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 11:18 AM


Your resident ChumpCar TR6 campaigners need a little advice.  I'm guessing
most
of you have accusump or similar systems on your cars, but we aren't
allowed to
by the ChumpCar rules and budget restrictions.  Among the races
we're running
this year are Rockingham and  Charlotte Motor Speedway (road
course
configurations) where you spend a lot of time on the banking (it's
questionable
whether or not we will have the speed to actually make it UP the
banking, but at
least in principle we will...) and we're worried about oil
starvation.  Any
ideas on pan baffling or some other solution, or are we
worried about nothing?

BTW, if any of you are interested in coming out to
watch and/or play with us
this year, our schedule is:

March 12-13   
Rockingham, NC (7-hrs each day)
April 23            Charlotte, NC (14-hr)
June
18-19        Roebling Road (7-hrs each day)
July 30-31        VIR (24-hr)
September 3-5    National Chumpionship, Iowa Speedway, 25-hr, multiple track
configurations
September 24    Sebring (14-hr, full course)
October 8-9       
Nelson Ledges, (25-hr 25-minutes)

We'd love to have any fellow FOT'ers out
there.  Lacey (our TR6) is now proudly
sporting her FOT decals!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader, RiffRAF Racing
http://riffrafracing.blogspot.com (due to be
updated)
http://www.riffrafracing.com (under construction)
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From herald948 at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 10:42:28 2011
From: herald948 at aol.com (Andrew Mace)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:42:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark
In-Reply-To: <328182.11660.qm@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <507978.78942.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com><6E305128-3C81-45B4-9C3C-4BE63171B6AB@me.com><AANLkTik-QcNhQNdFRBGNyEOtXmUGwA5tT7mXQKv=7nG2@mail.gmail.com><292550.18243.qm@web180811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<328182.11660.qm@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CD7A4DE1D8DEEB-1A98-8AE@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>

 I'm not sure. I vaguely remember, years ago, seeing a photograph of a
Mayflower with the Group 44 logo/numbers on the side! :-)



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.
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Register: http://www.vtr.org

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Database: http://triumph-herald.us




-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 11:04 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] nomination for Jeff Clark


Wouldn't the Mayflower be the true stepchild?  ;-)


From jmwagner at greenheart.com  Tue Jan  4 10:49:05 2011
From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 09:49:05 -0800
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
Message-ID: <4D235D91.2020400@greenheart.com>

Just ran across this on Craigslist...   --J


1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Jan  4 11:05:40 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:05:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Patches A new FOT project plus 2011 and 2012 race
 committees
In-Reply-To: <DB5B35AA-3B67-4B88-850C-D12D284C25B2@aol.com>
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 This project is pending and will surface in 30 days or so.

The plan is to replicate the medallion as a sew on patch.

The project has a 'champion' and I think he will follow through.

Great volunteerism that surfaces among the ranks of the FOT.

One of the reasons that we dont have OFFICERS and DUES.

We DO have a new 'COMMITTEE' approach to our annual race which involves the
Kastner Cup. We should be hearing from them shortly on both the 2011 and 2012
events.

Joe A








-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
To: FoTTriumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 11:15 am
Subject: [Fot] Patches


Amici



I am not trying to get patches made. The badge project was a big enough

undertaking.





Some one had asked me for the badge design because they were looking into

getting patches made



Happy new year

Chris

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From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Jan  4 11:13:30 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:13:30 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end time
 Jan-06-11 13:25:39 PST)
Message-ID: <47CC2BB3AB7D4BDFB09754D2BEE39807@Bud>

Hi Gang...Here's the Ebay link to a beautiful Peerless with original Triumph
engine..
Racer bud..Spitfire #21



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513651517+&v
iewitem=


From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 11:22:31 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:22:31 EST
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
Message-ID: <41f07.6b838e0d.3a54bf67@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/04/2011 12:16:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
jmwagner at greenheart.com writes:


> Just ran across this on Craigslist...   --J
> 
> 
> 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html
> 

Pretty car...but then...aren't they all.

Bill Dentinger


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Jan  4 11:23:58 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:23:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
In-Reply-To: <4D235D91.2020400@greenheart.com>
References: <4D235D91.2020400@greenheart.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101041322460.343@isis.mit.edu>

On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Justin Wagner wrote:

> Just ran across this on Craigslist...   --J
>
>
> 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html

Hawk it to Wayne Carrini - you could make a killing!!!

:-)

Actually, this looks like a pretty nice car!

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From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 11:55:29 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:55:29 EST
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end
 time Jan-0...
Message-ID: <833.159ae76d.3a54c721@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/04/2011 12:34:15 PM Central Standard Time, 
budscars at comcast.net writes:


> <<< Hi Gang...Here's the Ebay link to a beautiful Peerless with original 
> Triumph
> engine..
> Racer bud..Spitfire #21 >>>
> 

Amici...

Sure is.  Looks like a gorgeous restoration.  Says, "California Car".  Kas 
might tell you that most of them are, at least a lot of them came into the 
country via California, and have his fingerprints on them.  

Bob Wismer and I have an original Peerless (#112), that is completely 
operational, and in respectable 'unrestored' condition for a fifty plus year old 
car.  It has a roll bar and some limited (mostly VSCCA) competition history. 
 We have not raced it, because of a bug or two (i.e., one of the twin fuel 
tanks leaks) but Wismer did a 500 mile+ Rally a year or two back, and 
Shirley and I take it out to dinner now and again.  Past that...it's been in warm, 
inside storage as long as we've owned it.  

We have not advertised it, but it is For Sale.  Contact me if you are 
interested, or want to see a picture.

Bill Dentinger


From tlizzard at msn.com  Tue Jan  4 15:55:15 2011
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:55:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end
 time Jan-06-11 13:25:39 PST)
In-Reply-To: <47CC2BB3AB7D4BDFB09754D2BEE39807@Bud>
References: <47CC2BB3AB7D4BDFB09754D2BEE39807@Bud>
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds18CFB4BCE19A2A7537E4CAC3080@phx.gbl>

Pretty.


Terry Stetler
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  Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
  Subject: [Fot] Fw: Other Makes : Peerless - eBay (item 330513651517 end time
Jan-06-11 13:25:39 PST)


  Hi Gang...Here's the Ebay link to a beautiful Peerless with original
Triumph
  engine..
  Racer bud..Spitfire #21



  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513651517+
&v<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513651517
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Jan  4 20:36:38 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:36:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SPITFIRE REAR ENGINE PLATE-ONE LEFT
Message-ID: <8CD7AA0E4E2FD28-DE4-C35F2@webmail-m101.sysops.aol.com>

 I had an order for a ALUMINUM rear SPITFIRE plate and found only two on the
shelf.

If anyone has been thinking about getting one in the near future, this is it.

We will likely run some in future, however. Pretty slow moving.

Still trying to justify engineering the front plate...or find the time.

Thanks,

Joe  A


From vintage.racer at comcast.net  Tue Jan  4 22:26:50 2011
From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 05:26:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101041322460.343@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <2017973492.781100.1294205210759.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Robert: 


Thanks, it is a nice car but the real beauty is underneath and on the inside where you'd find a RATCO frame, several of Joe Alexander's race bits and a bunch of other goodies. 


Gary 
#67 TR4 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu> 
To: "Justin Wagner" <jmwagner at greenheart.com> 
Cc: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2011 10:23:58 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale 

On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Justin Wagner wrote: 

> Just ran across this on Craigslist... --J 
> 
> 
> 1962 Triumph TR4 vintage racecar is for sale 
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2139971779.html 

Hawk it to Wayne Carrini - you could make a killing!!! 

:-) 

Actually, this looks like a pretty nice car! 

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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Jan  5 05:07:43 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:07:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>

Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to 
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
some weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that 
"we" aren't polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause 
I have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan  5 06:42:59 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:42:59 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8CD7AF599928215-17A8-196D4@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com>

 Anodizing or powder coating might be two good coatings

I hadnt thought of doing either, but have those resources.

Polishing and then powder coat clear might be another choice.

Joe A








-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 6:07 am
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From chasgee at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 08:08:52 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:08:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
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You can get rattle cans of metal etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, etc.
that really improve the adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it is
kind of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it.  Anodizing
would be the best bet, but costs a little more.

Chuck





-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan  5 08:12:54 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:12:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <1894772994.597151.1294240184047.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1919979114.597293.1294240374437.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

If you can find a powder coater that uses Cardinal powder you can get rattle
can touch up

paint for it. You can also get clear powder coat if you wanted to polish it.





Jim G.




----- Original Message -----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
To: lang at isis.mit.edu, fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 6:42:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

B Anodizing or powder coating might be two good coatings

I hadnt thought of doing either, but have those resources.

Polishing and then powder coat clear might be another choice.

Joe A








-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 6:07 am
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From kaskas at cox.net  Wed Jan  5 08:41:23 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:41:23 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
	<8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. It 
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and 
so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.

--------------------------------------------------
From: <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
To: <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

> You can get rattle cans of metal etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, etc.
> that really improve the adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it 
> is
> kind of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it. 
> Anodizing
> would be the best bet, but costs a little more.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
> install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
> some
> weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
> installed
> these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
> polishing them before installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause 
> I
> have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed Jan  5 09:07:37 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:07:37 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
Message-ID: <780529.37735.qm@smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 The zinc chromate primer that I have used is bright yellow and it works
well.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Kas Kastner
Sent: January 5, 2011 10:41 AM
To: lang at isis.mit.edu; fot at autox.team.net; chasgee at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. It
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and
so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.


From REK46 at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 09:08:16 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:08:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>

Try  Skygeek.com....get the Tempo brand green zinc chromate  
spray...GREAT...get it before they stop makin it...rick
 
 
In a message dated 1/5/2011 11:02:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
kaskas at cox.net writes:

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your  paint store. 
It 
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in  most aircraft and 
so prevalent in Army and Air Force  parts.

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
To:  <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot]  Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

> You can get rattle cans of metal  etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, 
etc.
> that really improve the  adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it 
> is
> kind  of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it. 
>  Anodizing
> would be the best bet, but costs a little  more.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert M. Lang  <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed,  Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine  Plates
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of  the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet 
to
> install them, yet.  However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
> some
>  weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
>  The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing,  etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed  that folks have 
> installed
> these on the cars that I've looked  at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
> polishing them before  installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're  using as a primer 
bacause 
> I
> have really crappy luck with  getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
>  rml
>  
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 09:16:11 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:16:11 EST
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <1db5b0.5efca24b.3a55f34b@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/05/2011 10:02:18 AM Central Standard Time, 
kaskas at cox.net writes:


> The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. 
> It 
> is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and 
> 
> so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.
> 
> 

Olive Drab?  I'll be damn'd!  You mean that stuff is NOT British Racing 
Green?

Bill (Damdinger)

PS  Remember Olive Drab Tanker Jackets (ala Eisenhower).  I had several, 
and a Duck Tail too.  But no Triumphs at the time.  I had a powder blue 1951 
Ford convertible, skirts, continental kit, shaved, lowered, Smithy pipes, 
etc.


From rfdeanes at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 09:31:08 2011
From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:31:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=sBSH89VaFOpR0LOCzEBQFQuMacvXrKa+qzcwy@mail.gmail.com>

I also us Zinc Chromate and then use the color that I do the engine in and
it all blends in, alittle lighter all ways helps and nobody knows but me, on
the coast we use  Zinc Chromate on alot of things that take salt, corrosion
and oil abuse ,haven't had any problems with the paint coming off.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
> install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
> weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have
> installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we"
> aren't polishing them before installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
> have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
> rml
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2010 NER Solo Chair                            |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan  5 10:13:09 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard Meyerl)
Message-ID: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>

 FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,


Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
Germany. I am helping with this process.

Reinhard resides in the south of Germany, near Munich. He drives a nicely
prepared TR4 in coupe configuration. I believe he ran the SPA and Nurbergring
last year, as well as a number of rallies.

Reinard will make a great addition to our growing international 'membership.

Please welcome REINHARD to the list. Christian will mentor him in how our
lists works, and we hope he will soon share his experiences on and off the
track.

I just sent Reinhard Kas' newest book and he will likely get to know some of
us through this great book.

Christian Marx & Joe A


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan  5 10:17:30 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:17:30 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MARK BRADAKIS
Message-ID: <8CD7B1391691E94-1820-93B7@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>

 Mark,

reinhardmayerl at arcomail.de

when you are ready to add to the list....   thanks!  Joe


From riverside at southslope.net  Wed Jan  5 10:39:19 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:39:19 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu><8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>
	<A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
Message-ID: <001001cbacff$84d76e20$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>

We started having trouble acquiring zinc chromate primers some
years ago.   We were told it was a hazmat problem.

art de armond
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas at cox.net>
To: <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>; <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates


> The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. 
> It is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft 
> and so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <chasgee at aol.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
> To: <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>
>> You can get rattle cans of metal etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's, 
>> etc.
>> that really improve the adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it 
>> is
>> kind of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it. 
>> Anodizing
>> would be the best bet, but costs a little more.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>> Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
>> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet 
>> to
>> install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose 
>> some
>> weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>>
>> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>>
>> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
>> installed
>> these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
>> polishing them before installing...
>>
>> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause 
>> I
>> have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>>
>> regards,
>> rml
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent
>> 2010 NER Solo Chair |
>> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From tr4.tony at virgin.net  Wed Jan  5 10:59:45 2011
From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (tr4.tony at virgin.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:59:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
 Meyerl)
In-Reply-To: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <171162302-1294250444-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-338104128-@b4.c1.bise7.blackberry>

Happy to second this one ... Any friend of Chris is a friend of mine !  
Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:09 
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: <reinhardmayerl at arcormail.de>
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard Meyerl)

 FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,


Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
Germany. I am helping with this process.

Reinhard resides in the south of Germany, near Munich. He drives a nicely
prepared TR4 in coupe configuration. I believe he ran the SPA and Nurbergring
last year, as well as a number of rallies.

Reinard will make a great addition to our growing international 'membership.

Please welcome REINHARD to the list. Christian will mentor him in how our
lists works, and we hope he will soon share his experiences on and off the
track.

I just sent Reinhard Kas' newest book and he will likely get to know some of
us through this great book.

Christian Marx & Joe A
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 11:06:56 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:06:56 EST
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
 Meyerl)
Message-ID: <f4063.73e58e92.3a560d40@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/05/2011 11:34:30 AM Central Standard Time, 
n197tr4 at cs.com writes:


> FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,
> 
> 
> Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
> Germany. I am helping with this process.
> 

Ach du lieber!  Ja!  Zwie!

Bill Dentinger
Milwaukee


From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Jan  5 11:20:12 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:20:12 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>,
	<8CD7B01989525F1-D40-BA8D@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com>,
	<A4D8137D405548A4A1F0C3CD8AB11C69@KasPC>
Message-ID: <SNT141-w1691D75288D5A0707CD3EFB2090@phx.gbl>

Happy new year to everyone...
my two cents....coarse scotch brite, then fine, then with WD 40. I hate
watching paint dry ;) Easy to clean and maybe 20 mins of your time.

> From: kaskas at cox.net
> To: lang at isis.mit.edu; fot at autox.team.net; chasgee at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:41:23 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
>
> The undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. It
> is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and
> so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Jan  5 11:26:10 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:26:10 +0100
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
 Meyerl)
In-Reply-To: <171162302-1294250444-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-338104128-@b4.c1.bise7.blackberry>
References: <8CD7B12F635D60E-1820-92AD@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>
	<171162302-1294250444-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-338104128-@b4.c1.bise7.blackberry>
Message-ID: <001f01cbad06$07d3ef50$177bcdf0$@com>

Hi Guys.....thank you for this warm welcome of Reinhard!
He mostly racing in the Bavaria part of Germany with a little group or team
around him.
More he might tell us when he first time appear on this list.

Cheers
Chris


-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von tr4.tony at virgin.net
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2011 19:00
An: n197tr4 at cs.com; fot-bounces at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net
Cc: reinhardmayerl at arcormail.de
Betreff: Re: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard
Meyerl)

Happy to second this one ... Any friend of Chris is a friend of mine !
Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:09
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: <reinhardmayerl at arcormail.de>
Subject: [Fot] NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP from Christian Marx (Reinhard Meyerl)

 FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH,


Christian wishes to bring Reinhard Meyerl to us, his fellow countryman of
Germany. I am helping with this process.

Reinhard resides in the south of Germany, near Munich. He drives a nicely
prepared TR4 in coupe configuration. I believe he ran the SPA and
Nurbergring
last year, as well as a number of rallies.

Reinard will make a great addition to our growing international 'membership.

Please welcome REINHARD to the list. Christian will mentor him in how our
lists works, and we hope he will soon share his experiences on and off the
track.

I just sent Reinhard Kas' newest book and he will likely get to know some of
us through this great book.

Christian Marx & Joe A
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From KENMUN at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 12:02:52 2011
From: KENMUN at aol.com (KENMUN at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:02:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] tr3 brake master cyl. upgrade to dual system
Message-ID: <b6fef.fe374f7.3a561a5c@aol.com>

fot, anyone have any advice on adapting a dual brake master cyl. to a tr3?  
i'm looking at a gt6 that looks like it might be made to work with a lot of 
 mods. thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer.


From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Jan  5 13:07:32 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:07:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] tr3 brake master cyl. upgrade to dual system
In-Reply-To: <b6fef.fe374f7.3a561a5c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110105200732.ZEU62.148141.root@cdptpa-web12-z02>

I have designed a mount to hold 3 Tilton 75 series master cylinders (the short Wilwood cylinders will also work). It is aluminum. I have just finished fab'ing the parts and dropped it off to be welded. It will use the stock TR3 pedal assembly, the stock pushrods that come with the Tilton cylinders, and heim joints at the attach points. As designed, no firewall modifications are needed since all three cylinders will fit within the stock firewall opening. As designed, pressure differential will have to be handled by a Tilton pressure differential valve installed inline for the rear brakes. If interested, I can send pictures when I get it back later this week along with dimensions of the various parts.

BobD  

 
---- KENMUN at aol.com wrote: 
> fot, anyone have any advice on adapting a dual brake master cyl. to a tr3?  
> i'm looking at a gt6 that looks like it might be made to work with a lot of 
>  mods. thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer.
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From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Jan  5 13:09:52 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:09:52 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <1db5b0.5efca24b.3a55f34b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110105200952.A51EU.148156.root@cdptpa-web12-z02>

Boat supply stores usually stock it, too.

BobD
---- BillDentin at aol.com wrote: 
> In a message dated 01/05/2011 10:02:18 AM Central Standard Time, 
> kaskas at cox.net writes:
> 
> 
> > The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your paint store. 
> > It 
> > is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in most aircraft and 
> > 
> > so prevalent in Army and Air Force parts.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Olive Drab?  I'll be damn'd!  You mean that stuff is NOT British Racing 
> Green?
> 
> Bill (Damdinger)
> 
> PS  Remember Olive Drab Tanker Jackets (ala Eisenhower).  I had several, 
> and a Duck Tail too.  But no Triumphs at the time.  I had a powder blue 1951 
> Ford convertible, skirts, continental kit, shaved, lowered, Smithy pipes, 
> etc.
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Wed Jan  5 14:04:28 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:04:28 EST
Subject: [Fot] tr3 brake master cyl. upgrade to dual system
Message-ID: <3dd7f.48751d11.3a5636dc@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/05/2011 1:29:56 PM Central Standard Time, 
KENMUN at aol.com writes:


> fot, anyone have any advice on adapting a dual brake master cyl. to a 
> tr3?  
> i'm looking at a gt6 that looks like it might be made to work with a lot 
> of 
> mods. thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer.
> 

Ken...

There is a LUCAS part off an Austin Taxi cab that will allow you to split 
the brake cylinder on a TR3 without butchering a lot of sheet metal.   It is 
LUCAS Part #64066044, and if you order one, be sure to get a rebuild kit at 
the same time for on the shelf.  That number is #SP2683.  This was something 
sorted out by John Harkness for his TR3A years ago and it works slick.  I 
have one on my car and others do as well.

Bill Dentinger

Bill Dentinger


From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Jan  5 15:10:13 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:10:13 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
References: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>

Yes, get some of them, because in europe they no longer sell these anymore,
due to environmental laws. We used to have chromate primers as etch primers
for steel as well, but forbidden also. And the new eco friendly replacement
are nowhere as good (engineers from Dupont told me).
As I realise now these are still avail in the US, will get some!
Cheers!
Alex

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de REK46 at aol.com
Envoyi : mercredi 5 janvier 2011 17:08
@ : kaskas at cox.net; lang at isis.mit.edu; fot at autox.team.net; chasgee at aol.com
Objet : Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

Try  Skygeek.com....get the Tempo brand green zinc chromate
spray...GREAT...get it before they stop makin it...rick


In a message dated 1/5/2011 11:02:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kaskas at cox.net writes:

The  undercoating for aluminum is Zinc Chromate. Check your  paint store.
It
is a olive drab in color. That is the same stuff used in  most aircraft and
so prevalent in Army and Air Force  parts.

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <chasgee at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:08 AM
To:  <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot]  Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

> You can get rattle cans of metal  etch primer at Pep Boys, O'rielly's,
etc.
> that really improve the  adhesion on all metals, especially aluminum.  it
> is
> kind  of olive drab in color.  Give that a try, you might like it.
>  Anodizing
> would be the best bet, but costs a little  more.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert M. Lang  <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed,  Jan 5, 2011 4:07 am
> Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine  Plates
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of  the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet
to
> install them, yet.  However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose
> some
>  weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.
>
>  The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing,  etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed  that folks have
> installed
> these on the cars that I've looked  at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
> polishing them before  installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're  using as a primer
bacause
> I
> have really crappy luck with  getting paint to stick to aluminium.
>
> regards,
>  rml
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2010 NER Solo Chair  |
> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Jan  5 16:25:03 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:25:03 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
References: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
	<000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
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The main problem with zinc chromate is that it is a skin contact poison.
It enters through the skin into the body.

Always should be applied with gloves.

Cheers
Chris


From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan  5 16:26:51 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:26:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <1729583835.624575.1294268308807.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Greetings FoT,

I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach

dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.

I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was plagued

with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
side.

In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users manual

and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have ever
seen

probes that far away from the flange.

Input would be appreciated.



Jim G

# 102


From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Jan  5 16:58:32 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:58:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4D2505A8.2030706@cfl.rr.com>

1 1/2" is to close. I've always had good results at 4"-5".

BobD

On 1/5/2011 6:26 PM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed Jan  5 17:00:35 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:00:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <000f01cbad2f$c8c4f410$5a4edc30$@com>
Message-ID: <779276.41145.qm@smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hmm, I guess in aerosol even worse...that could explain EVERYTHING...

Haha

Paul 

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Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: January 5, 2011 6:25 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates

The main problem with zinc chromate is that it is a skin contact poison.
It enters through the skin into the body.

Always should be applied with gloves.

Cheers
Chris
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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Wed Jan  5 18:43:18 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 01:43:18 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Message-ID: <20110105.204318.13763.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

My EGT probes are 6 inches away and they seem fine there.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:26:51 +0000 (UTC)

Greetings FoT,

I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach

dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.

I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was
plagued

with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
side.

In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users
manual

and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have ever
seen

probes that far away from the flange.

Input would be appreciated.



Jim G

# 102
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  5 19:37:53 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:37:53 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1656194621.626302.1294270011913.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B13B0394-B3F3-4631-8393-45A0E36ED35B@yahoo.com>

I had inconsistent readings when I had mine 6 inches from the flange. Sam
Halkias told me to move them 6 inches from the valve and that corrected my
problems. I think I am going to try a wide band O2 sensor this year to get
another picture of what my mixture is like.

Mike
EP TR6

On Jan 5, 2011, at 5:26 PM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:

> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was
plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users
manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have
ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From igofaster at att.net  Wed Jan  5 20:15:42 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:15:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
Message-ID: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad 1500...


Bobby Whitehead


From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Jan  5 20:48:35 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:48:35 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
References: <11e808.4af39920.3a55f16f@aol.com>
	<000801cbad25$57b02d30$07108790$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <4D253B93.6080005@bradakis.com>

What's the difference between an alley engine and a shade tree engine?

Alley more urban, shade tree more rural?

mjb.


From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Jan  5 20:58:34 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:58:34 -0700
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
In-Reply-To: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B6B13D2601344DC4A574F9CC0741B793@Vista>

I think I got my shortened pushrods from Ted Schumacher.

Joe

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Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:16 PM
To: FoT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500

need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad
1500...


Bobby Whitehead
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan  5 22:34:57 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:34:57 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
In-Reply-To: <993B045C5BA14D07BBF9E2B488EBF924@KasPC>
Message-ID: <20110106053619.409C0187669@autox.team.net>

At 5200' elevation my timing is 36 degrees BTC, that's 2 below what others
run up here, at Topeka I was at 31 with all my advance in at 4000.
My gas is 108 at 12.5:1 CR. I guess when I installed the probes I was under
the assumption all EGT gauges & probes were the same with the same offset
from the flange. 

Jim G 
# 102

-----Original Message-----
From: Kas Kastner [mailto:kaskas at cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:22 PM
To: toodamnfunky at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location

That close to the flange will probably still see some flame and that is too 
close for accurate readings.  The retarded ignition will also add to the 
exhaust temp. But then, I don't know what you mean by "retarded" as in 
retarded from what, and what engine and what gasoline octane? (always more 
questions)
--------------------------------------------------
From: <toodamnfunky at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:26 PM
To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location

> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was 
> plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users 
> manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have 
> ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
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From rwestfall at ymail.com  Wed Jan  5 22:41:04 2011
From: rwestfall at ymail.com (Russell Westfall)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:41:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Re:  Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <765398.54782.qm@web59909.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Russell Westfall <rwestfall at ymail.com> wrote:

From: Russell Westfall <rwestfall at ymail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
To: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 3:31 PM

Go to your local PPG or Dupont paint supplier and get some Aluma prep, Acid
etch primer and epoxy primer follow the insructions and you will be quite
pleased with the results. Powder coating is always an option, or if you don't
feel comfortable doing the painting yourself I have a close friend who owns a
Maaco shop and he will paint anything and do it well and at a reasonable
price. I'm sure that if you checked in your area you will find shops that
would do this for you. However, there is a pleasure in doing the job yourself.
Painting really is not a mystery and if the directions are followed with
todays materials the results are good. True Zinc Chromate primer hasn't been
legal in the U.S. in quite some time, it's really not good for you, but it did
make paint stick!
Russ Westfall

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
To: fot at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 12:07 PM


Hi,

Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've yet to
install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution to loose some
weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few weeks.

The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?

I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have installed
these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that "we" aren't
polishing them before installing...

If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer bacause I
have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to aluminium.

regards,
rml
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From adcronin at mi.rr.com  Thu Jan  6 08:59:54 2011
From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:59:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
In-Reply-To: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A14E267F-9BB6-46FF-B54D-5938A091986B@mi.rr.com>

Contact Ted at TSI in Pandora Ohio.  NFI
Dan


On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote:

> need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad
1500...
>
>
> Bobby Whitehead
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From rodkent at cox.net  Thu Jan  6 09:10:34 2011
From: rodkent at cox.net (rodkent at cox.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:10:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] shortend pushrods, Spitfire 1500
In-Reply-To: <24911.76199.qm@web180814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110106111034.41P28.707091.imail@fed1rmwml31>

smith brothers pushrods will build what you need, highest quality.
---- Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net> wrote: 
need a source and information to find shortened pushrods for a Spitwad 1500...


Bobby Whitehead
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Thu Jan  6 16:11:59 2011
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:11:59 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1101050700130.6809@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <4D264C3F.2070701@pobox.com>

You can use other primers besides zinc chromate.  I have used epoxy.  
You have to prep the aluminum, because it develops an aluminum oxide 
skin.  The prep usually involves a mild acid such as phosphoric.  It 
must be primed soon after the prep.  The primer should come with prep 
instructions.
Larry

On 1/5/2011 6:07 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the original aluminium engine plates, I've 
> yet to install them, yet. However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution 
> to loose some weight, so the plate will be installed in the next few 
> weeks.
>
> The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing, etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed that folks have 
> installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so that tells me that 
> "we" aren't polishing them before installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're using as a primer 
> bacause I have really crappy luck with getting paint to stick to 
> aluminium.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From REK46 at aol.com  Thu Jan  6 17:16:11 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:16:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Speaking of Alley Engine Plates
Message-ID: <269f3.7b84659e.3a57b54b@aol.com>

use some Alodine to prep the surface
 
 
In a message dated 1/6/2011 7:01:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cartravel at pobox.com writes:

You can  use other primers besides zinc chromate.  I have used epoxy.   
You have to prep the aluminum, because it develops an aluminum oxide  
skin.  The prep usually involves a mild acid such as  phosphoric.  It 
must be primed soon after the prep.  The primer  should come with prep 
instructions.
Larry

On 1/5/2011 6:07 AM,  Robert M. Lang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Even though I got one of the  original aluminium engine plates, I've 
> yet to install them, yet.  However, Khartu has a New Year's Resolution 
> to loose some weight, so  the plate will be installed in the next few 
> weeks.
>
>  The question is: are folks painting these plates (or anodizing,  etc.)?
>
> I have to be honest, I don't think I've even noticed  that folks have 
> installed these on the cars that I've looked at, so  that tells me that 
> "we" aren't polishing them before  installing...
>
> If folks are painting, please share what you're  using as a primer 
> bacause I have really crappy luck with getting  paint to stick to 
> aluminium.
>
> regards,
>  rml
>  
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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Thu Jan  6 17:26:28 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:26:28 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Message-ID: <20110106.192628.8248.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>

A wide band O2 sensor is the way to go.  I use an Innovate LM1 and LM3, thus
having data logging capability.  I don't keep the O2 sensor in all the time.
I used it, logged it, made adjustments as needed then took the system out.  I
noted what the EGTs were at WOT on a long straight and if readings are off
then I know something is not right and make mixture adjustments as needed.
Long term use of an O2 sensor with leaded fuel will ruin the sensor.
Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Mike Munson <fasttrs at yahoo.com>
To: "toodamnfunky at comcast.net" <toodamnfunky at comcast.net>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust gas temp probe location
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:37:53 -0600

I had inconsistent readings when I had mine 6 inches from the flange. Sam
Halkias told me to move them 6 inches from the valve and that corrected my
problems. I think I am going to try a wide band O2 sensor this year to get
another picture of what my mixture is like.

Mike
EP TR6

On Jan 5, 2011, at 5:26 PM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:

> Greetings FoT,
>
> I'm looking for some opinions on probe location . I use the Westach
>
> dual EGT gauge which I bought used, it didn't include the users manual.
>
> I locatedB the probes B about 1.25" from the flange. Last season I was
plagued
>
> with high EGT's while jetting very rich and running timing on the retarded
> side.
>
> In the process of updating my build book I downloaded the Westach users
manual
>
> and it says to locate the probes 6" from the flange. I can't say I have
ever
> seen
>
> probes that far away from the flange.
>
> Input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jim G
>
> # 102
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Jan  7 08:13:04 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:13:04 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Triumph cranks
In-Reply-To: <20110106.192628.8248.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110106.192628.8248.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <002401cbae7d$63b71900$2b254b00$@com>

Hi,

does anyone know which company made the Triumph cranks?

Cheers
Chris


From BillDentin at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 10:57:16 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:57:16 EST
Subject: [Fot] Sad tale that includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...
Message-ID: <d5159.75d82dcb.3a58adfc@aol.com>

 Click here: Jamie Lincoln Kitman Examines the Life of a Car Enthusiast: 
Cars: GQ 

I am not sure if Mark allows the emailing of a link to the list like this, 
but this sad story about the life of a car collector includes a Triumph 
Dolomite Sprint, no less.

Bill Dentinger


From BillDentin at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 12:06:08 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:06:08 EST
Subject: [Fot] Includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...take two...
Message-ID: <dacfc.21ee3a67.3a58be20@aol.com>

Amici...

A second attempt to provide a link to an article in the Gentleman's 
Quarterly about the often sad affairs of an auto collector...including a Triumph 
Dolomite Sprint.

< 
www.gq.com/cars-gear/cars/201012/jamie-kitman-a-man-and-his-cars-life-of-a-car-enthusiast >

Bill Dentinger

PS  Thanks, Jim.


From rjl6n at cstone.net  Fri Jan  7 12:07:27 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:07:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Sad tale that includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...
In-Reply-To: <d5159.75d82dcb.3a58adfc@aol.com>
References: <d5159.75d82dcb.3a58adfc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <435fe0d983080c3030c66ab93acdb48a.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

Try this:

http://www.gq.com/cars-gear/cars/201012/jamie-kitman-a-man-and-his-cars-life-of-a-car-enthusiast

On Fri, January 7, 2011 12:57 pm, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>  Click here: Jamie Lincoln Kitman Examines the Life of a Car Enthusiast:
> Cars: GQ
>
> I am not sure if Mark allows the emailing of a link to the list like this,
> but this sad story about the life of a car collector includes a Triumph
> Dolomite Sprint, no less.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  7 16:04:16 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:04:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...take two...
In-Reply-To: <dacfc.21ee3a67.3a58be20@aol.com>
References: <dacfc.21ee3a67.3a58be20@aol.com>
Message-ID: <651514.25938.qm@web80808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Jamie (by way of Car & Driver) brought several cars out to Michigan in 2005
for 
the
British Reliabilty Run. They brought the Dolomite, Minor, gold
Cortina and the 
MGA.
If you still have it, Kitman wrote an article for Car &
Driver . It was in the 
January 2006
issue.
________________________________
From: "BillDentin at aol.com"
<BillDentin at aol.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 2:06:08
PM
Subject: [Fot] Includes a Triumph Dolomite Sprint...take two...

Amici...
A second attempt to provide a link to an article in the Gentleman's 
Quarterly
about the often sad affairs of an auto collector...including a Triumph
Dolomite Sprint.

<
www.gq.com/cars-gear/cars/201012/jamie-kitman-a-man-and-his-cars-life-of-a-ca
r-enthusiast
 >

Bill Dentinger

PS  Thanks, Jim.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Fri Jan  7 16:18:53 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:18:53 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Triumphs at Daytona 1967
Message-ID: <AANLkTims5B2HymTuHdL1sNDPC35O5U=E1_B3UCCU1H2C@mail.gmail.com>

Friends,
Found these short videos today while "working."
Two cool clips of the factory TR's at Daytona in 1967.
Part one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276276739/in/set-72157604389838783/

Part two:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276435807/in/set-72157604389838783/


Enjoy,
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 22:46:10 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0800
Subject: [Fot] A nice demo lap of Laguna Seca Mazda Raceway
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <5F8FC533-FDB2-494A-92A7-FEC007A2AA5E@aol.com>

Gear up for June and the 2011 Kastner Cup....

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=MS3#/ 
trackAttack


From jfrymark at aol.com  Fri Jan  7 22:54:10 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:54:10 -0800
Subject: [Fot] A nice demo lap of Laguna Seca Mazda Raceway (corrected)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1.1294426801.9665.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <58590112-BEC4-4D12-963C-DA0B8DA08618@aol.com>

Gear up for June and the 2011 Kastner Cup....

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=MS3#/ 
trackAttack

...AND CLICK ON "TRACK ATTACK" in upper left


From tlizzard at msn.com  Sat Jan  8 07:47:05 2011
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 09:47:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Triumphs at Daytona 1967
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTims5B2HymTuHdL1sNDPC35O5U=E1_B3UCCU1H2C@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTims5B2HymTuHdL1sNDPC35O5U=E1_B3UCCU1H2C@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds2AF4955C36F8C3F34811FC30C0@phx.gbl>

WOW!

Great find!

BTW I have used number 23 in my meager motorsport activities since 1970
because of that Ferrari 330 P4, the most beautiful automobile ever conceived.


Terry Stetler.


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Jan  8 14:19:16 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Help moving a non Triumph item Cross country
Message-ID: <153E6018-7BDE-4AEF-AA07-85CA393534AE@aol.com>

Amici,

I have been contacted by a fellow collector from a different hobby  
and would like help getting it moved from Wyoming to the Eastcoast  
(PA,MD,NJ,NY) area.

It is a pinball machine.  It is ready to move.  Just need a  
handtruck. It will fit in a pickup or a van with no seats.  I am sure  
it will fit in a trailer.

Any Help?

Thanks
Chris


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Jan  8 17:35:07 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 01:35:07 +0100
Subject: [Fot] My currently fastest lap of Zandvoort
In-Reply-To: <153E6018-7BDE-4AEF-AA07-85CA393534AE@aol.com>
References: <153E6018-7BDE-4AEF-AA07-85CA393534AE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000a01cbaf95$1210cd30$36326790$@com>

This is less driving more sliding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSbQnFm2Q1I

Cheers
Chris


From list at mackenzie.aero  Sun Jan  9 18:37:07 2011
From: list at mackenzie.aero (Robert MacKenzie)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:37:07 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
Message-ID: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>

I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John
Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.

Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm
clutch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk

John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.


Robert MacKenzie
President, Hill Country Triumph Club
president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org
www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Jan  9 19:31:56 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
In-Reply-To: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
References: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
Message-ID: <8CD7E85AF29A8FB-FDC-1A0A6@webmail-m054.sysops.aol.com>

 Great stuff.....nothing like doing it easy way.

We did make a precision drill plate and have converted a number early
flywheels to diaphragm clutch.

It can be done on a drill press.   Dennis Delap has used it for one of his
flywheels.

It's just sitting on the shelf, so if someone wants to borrow it....shipping
costs will cover it.

But if you have a cnc resource, go for it!








-----Original Message-----
From: Robert MacKenzie <list at mackenzie.aero>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, Jan 9, 2011 7:37 pm
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification


I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John

Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.



Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm

clutch.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk



John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.





Robert MacKenzie

President, Hill Country Triumph Club

president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org

www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org

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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sun Jan  9 20:12:57 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:12:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted
Message-ID: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>

Amici,
  I am looking for a TR6 trans with no guts. I am just looking for  
the bellhousing to be in good shape. The rest is not needed.  Just a  
question......  Does a GT6 trans bolt to a TR6 engine?  If it does  
then I will take the bellhousing from that.

Thanks
Chris


From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan 10 06:23:31 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott janzen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:23:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted
In-Reply-To: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>
References: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>
Message-ID: <53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>

I'm in the process of evaluating the same project.  You will need a rear engine plate that matches the transmission, I.e. GT6 with GT6.  Also, TR6 transmissions have an integral cast bell housing, not a separate bolt-on one like a TR4-6

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:12 PM, christopher bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com> wrote:

> Amici,
> I am looking for a TR6 trans with no guts. I am just looking for the bellhousing to be in good shape. The rest is not needed.  Just a question......  Does a GT6 trans bolt to a TR6 engine?  If it does then I will take the bellhousing from that.
> 
> Thanks
> Chris
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan 10 09:13:40 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted
In-Reply-To: <53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>
References: <BD286A61-9206-4C0C-A649-7CB942918C25@aol.com>
	<53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>
Message-ID: <E099064E-2023-4ACA-80F5-5D4BCFDE2DC0@me.com>

Meant to say that the GT6 trans has a bolt-on bell housing, where the  
TR4-6 have integral cast bell housings.

On Jan 10, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Scott janzen wrote:

I'm in the process of evaluating the same project.  You will need a  
rear engine plate that matches the transmission, I.e. GT6 with GT6.   
Also, TR6 transmissions have an integral cast bell housing, not a  
separate bolt-on one like a TR4-6

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:12 PM, christopher bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com> wrote:

> Amici,
> I am looking for a TR6 trans with no guts. I am just looking for the  
> bellhousing to be in good shape. The rest is not needed.  Just a  
> question......  Does a GT6 trans bolt to a TR6 engine?  If it does  
> then I will take the bellhousing from that.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Jan 10 09:15:11 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:15:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  TR6 empty trans wanted
References: <53837845-AD15-426A-8174-BCC310994C8C@me.com>
Message-ID: <815F0AD9-7C49-47BB-AC9B-E8412A95C12C@me.com>

Meant to say that the GT6 trans has a bolt-on bell housing, where the  
TR4-6 have integral cast bell housings.


Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 empty trans wanted

I'm in the process of evaluating the same project.  You will need a  
rear engine plate that matches the transmission, I.e. GT6 with GT6.   
Also, TR6 transmissions have an integral cast bell housing, not a  
separate bolt-on one like a TR4-6


From list at mackenzie.aero  Mon Jan 10 09:59:10 2011
From: list at mackenzie.aero (Robert MacKenzie)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:59:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
In-Reply-To: <000E00F6C34A41DC9E8E969306713975@roberta16b8c09>
References: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
	<000E00F6C34A41DC9E8E969306713975@roberta16b8c09>
Message-ID: <004501cbb0e7$b401c560$1c055020$@aero>

John is an amazing machinist.  I spent a day in his shop last spring and
watched him overhaul my Spit cyl head and fit custom bee-hive valve springs
(search his videos to see it done)

He is a "fiat guy" but I can't hold that against him.

-----Original Message-----
From: rdwismer [mailto:rdwismer at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:36 AM
To: robert at mackenzie.aero
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification

Good video. We need to keep this guy's name/number on file.

I am always impressed with a good machinist. I have a plumber replacing 
tub/shower faucets in one of our bathrooms today. Good plumbers impress me 
as well. In fact, all most everybody that is good impresses 
me..........Wismer




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert MacKenzie" <list at mackenzie.aero>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification


>
> I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John
> Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.
>
> Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm
> clutch.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk
>
> John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.
>
>
> Robert MacKenzie
> President, Hill Country Triumph Club
> president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org
> www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Mon Jan 10 13:11:31 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:11:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification
In-Reply-To: <004501cbb0e7$b401c560$1c055020$@aero>
References: <001801cbb066$e48efd00$adacf700$@aero>
	<000E00F6C34A41DC9E8E969306713975@roberta16b8c09>
	<004501cbb0e7$b401c560$1c055020$@aero>
Message-ID: <002e01cbb102$931ad010$b9507030$@rr.com>

Fiat, you mean the parent company of Ferrari? What's to hold against him?
Russ Moore


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Robert MacKenzie
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:59 AM
To: 'rdwismer'
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification

John is an amazing machinist.  I spent a day in his shop last spring and
watched him overhaul my Spit cyl head and fit custom bee-hive valve springs
(search his videos to see it done)

He is a "fiat guy" but I can't hold that against him.

-----Original Message-----
From: rdwismer [mailto:rdwismer at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:36 AM
To: robert at mackenzie.aero
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification

Good video. We need to keep this guy's name/number on file.

I am always impressed with a good machinist. I have a plumber replacing 
tub/shower faucets in one of our bathrooms today. Good plumbers impress me 
as well. In fact, all most everybody that is good impresses 
me..........Wismer




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert MacKenzie" <list at mackenzie.aero>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: [Fot] Clutch & Flywheel Modification


>
> I thought everybody might want to see this video made by my friend, John
> Edwards at Costa Mesa R&D.
>
> Is shows him modifying a TR4A/TR6 flywheel to accept a later diaphragm
> clutch.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9j7304Zxk
>
> John is a true craftsman and I can't recommend him highly enough.
>
>
> Robert MacKenzie
> President, Hill Country Triumph Club
> president at hillcountrytriumphclub.org
> www.hillcountrytriumphclub.org
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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Tue Jan 11 10:04:41 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:04:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European race
 cars....need submissions!!!]
Message-ID: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

Hi folks,

I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
some of you might be interested in contacting him
about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
for a few years.  They often have some interesting
cars there.  Please contact Ric at:

<ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>

directly for more details.

John

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
cars....need submissions!!!
From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Good Morning!

Some F1 pics for you:
http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
0-s-amp-70-s.


I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
September.

I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
could lead us to such cars?

We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...


 Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!

Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
concourse, etc....should be fun!!!

Ric


From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Jan 11 10:28:17 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:28:17 -0600
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European
 race cars....need submissions!!!]
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Where (geographically) is this?

- Tony

At 11:04 AM 1/11/2011, rjl6n at cstone.net wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
>some of you might be interested in contacting him
>about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
>your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
>would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
>very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
>for a few years.  They often have some interesting
>cars there.  Please contact Ric at:
>
><ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>
>directly for more details.
>
>John
>
>---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
>cars....need submissions!!!
>From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
>To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Good Morning!
>
>Some F1 pics for you:
>http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
>0-s-amp-70-s.
>
>
>I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
>September.
>
>I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
>European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
>as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
>could lead us to such cars?
>
>We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
>and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...
>
>
>  Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
>kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
>mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!
>
>Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
>concourse, etc....should be fun!!!
>
>Ric


From rjl6n at cstone.net  Tue Jan 11 11:25:38 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:25:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European
 race cars....need submissions!!!]
In-Reply-To: <20110111172824.2BF281F4018@mailstore06.ntelos.net>
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	<20110111172824.2BF281F4018@mailstore06.ntelos.net>
Message-ID: <fcc1087b3c537a66771dec1daa482584.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

Hi Tony,

Sorry, it will be at a winery near Richmond, VA (in
New Kent County, I believe).  There is also a golf
course nearby, I am told.

John

On Tue, January 11, 2011 12:28 pm, Tony Drews wrote:
> Where (geographically) is this?
>
> - Tony
>
> At 11:04 AM 1/11/2011, rjl6n at cstone.net wrote:
>>Hi folks,
>>
>>I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
>>some of you might be interested in contacting him
>>about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
>>your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
>>would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
>>very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
>>for a few years.  They often have some interesting
>>cars there.  Please contact Ric at:
>>
>><ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>>
>>directly for more details.
>>
>>John
>>
>>---------------------------- Original Message
>> ----------------------------
>>Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
>>cars....need submissions!!!
>>From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>>Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
>>To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Good Morning!
>>
>>Some F1 pics for you:
>>http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
>>0-s-amp-70-s.
>>
>>
>>I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
>>September.
>>
>>I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
>>European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
>>as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
>>could lead us to such cars?
>>
>>We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
>>and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...
>>
>>
>>  Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
>>kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
>>mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!
>>
>>Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
>>concourse, etc....should be fun!!!
>>
>>Ric


From riverside at southslope.net  Tue Jan 11 15:27:57 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:27:57 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
Message-ID: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>

Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond


From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Jan 11 16:54:31 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:54:31 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
Message-ID: <C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>

There are two different castings that were used.  The thicker one is good
but the thinner one is probably too weak to be something I would recommend.
I have seen the thicker one going for around a hundred bucks,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Jan 11 17:38:44 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:38:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
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	<C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
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That is about the right price but I have seen problems with both versions of
the aluminum bell housing and removed mine after finding too many fractures
to suit me. I am back to a cast iron one with shield. 
Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:55 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

There are two different castings that were used.  The thicker one is good
but the thinner one is probably too weak to be something I would recommend.
I have seen the thicker one going for around a hundred bucks,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From norlinengineering at comcast.net  Tue Jan 11 19:40:19 2011
From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:40:19 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
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I did a bunch of research on this about a year ago.  The thinner one is off
a Herald and from what I was told, is probably not a candidate for a race
car.  Street car, sure.  I have one and would be willing to part with it.

The thicker bellhousing is off of an early (very early) Spitfire.  They are
very difficult to find.  I located one last year and had to give $175 for
it.  

New ones are available out of England for around $500.  Spitbits sometimes
has them in stock.

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

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From herald948 at aol.com  Tue Jan 11 19:57:43 2011
From: herald948 at aol.com (Andrew Mace)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:57:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
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	<C696F9D18BC04FC78C9C28408BBEE12A@Vista>
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 I've seen the thicker ones go for well over $100. Fortunately, I've never
tested one of those. However, I did blow up a clutch in the Herald, 2nd gear
and probably about 2000-2500 rpm (just going up a hill). Enough of the clutch
remained so that the car could be nursed home under its own power, but all
shifting had to be done by matching revs and praying. When I got it all apart,
I found one or two tiny dents and/or holes in the (thinner Herald-style)
bellhousing. Wasn't enough to make me toss the bellhousing...but it did make
me think a bit. The genuine Spitfire alloy housings are much thicker than
those of the earlier Herald gearbox, especially at the engine mating flange.

For what it's worth, the difference in weight is amazing. The cast iron
bellhousing is somewhere in the 30 lb. range, while the alloy bellhousings are
more like 7-10 lb. or thereabouts.



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph
Register: http://www.vtr.org

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald
Database: http://triumph-herald.us




-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: 'riverside' <riverside at southslope.net>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


There are two different castings that were used.  The thicker one is good

but the thinner one is probably too weak to be something I would recommend.

I have seen the thicker one going for around a hundred bucks,


From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Jan 11 20:41:19 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:41:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
	<478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
Message-ID: <073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>

I have one that I will let go for $15,000.00.  And I will throw in a full
race fuel injected 1296 engine, Full synchro 3-Rail OD gearbox and a
beautiful Mk1 Spitfire body complete with interior and soft top.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Norlin Engineering
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:40 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

I did a bunch of research on this about a year ago.  The thinner one is off
a Herald and from what I was told, is probably not a candidate for a race
car.  Street car, sure.  I have one and would be willing to part with it.

The thicker bellhousing is off of an early (very early) Spitfire.  They are
very difficult to find.  I located one last year and had to give $175 for
it.  

New ones are available out of England for around $500.  Spitbits sometimes
has them in stock.

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Jan 11 23:11:10 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:11:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Does anyone know anything about this TR 4 / 5 / 6?
Message-ID: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>



From billb at bnj.com  Wed Jan 12 00:13:22 2011
From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:13:22 -1000
Subject: [Fot] Does anyone know anything about this TR 4 / 5 / 6?
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Well, that certainly leaves a lot of room for response. 
On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Tony Drews wrote:

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Jan 12 02:13:34 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:13:34 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Who knows anything about that car?
Message-ID: <000001cbb238$fe7bccb0$fb736610$@com>

A search for information about that car b maybe you might be able to help:

-------- Original-Nachricht --------

Betreff:
bitte an deine facebook Freunde weiterleiten

Datum:
Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:45:35 +0100

Von:
Dieter Seidel  <mailto:Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de> <Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de>

An:
info at kartec.de



     Dear Triumph friends,

           does anybody know something about this car ?
           ( see pictures )
http://picasaweb.google.com/tr4racing/TR4Racing#5561218334964309298
http://picasaweb.google.com/tr4racing/TR4Racing#5561220857246843266

           I am a Triumph enthusiast for more than 30 years
           and I am racing a TR 4 for about 20 years now.

           And I bought this "TR 250" racer in may 1989 somewhere
           in Los Angeles - since that it was stored in a barn
           at my place in Paderborn / Germany.
           Before restoring it now, I would like to know some
           details of its history.
           Hope there is someone out there in California who
           remembers this special rainbow stripes.
           For several reasons it seems to me that it was never
           used as an ordinary road car.
           It has a TR4 body which was originaly a powderblue one,
           a TR250 / TR6 frame with a Datsun-Nissan 260Z rear axle,
           a Triumph TR6 racing engine, several other TR6 parts
           and special racing parts.
           If somebody can tell me anything about it I would be
           very thankfull when sending me an email to :
                       Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de

            Thank you very, very much   Dieter






--
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From rfdeanes at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 06:39:38 2011
From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:39:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [Fwd: Our September car show wants to feature European
 race cars....need submissions!!!]
In-Reply-To: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
References: <890c95756214147fecf73f1a119478f2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>
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These are some good shots of the cars....and flying!

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:04 PM, <rjl6n at cstone.net> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I just received this from a friend, and I thought that
> some of you might be interested in contacting him
> about this show (Rick Rock, I'm thinking of you and
> your TVR...).  Ric is a good guy, and a racer, so I
> would like to support him if I can.  It is usually a
> very nice show, but I haven't been down to see it
> for a few years.  They often have some interesting
> cars there.  Please contact Ric at:
>
> <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
>
> directly for more details.
>
> John
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Our September car show wants to feature European race
> cars....need submissions!!!
> From:    "Ric Bergstrom" <ric.bergstrom.hckj at statefarm.com>
> Date:    Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54 am
> To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Good Morning!
>
> Some F1 pics for you:
> http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/showthread.php?340-F-1-images....50-s-6
> 0-s-amp-70-s.
>
>
> I have been put in charge of the racing class at the car show we do in
> September.
>
> I have been tasked with tracking down ( and encouraging to show up)
> European race cars.    Can I ask you a favor and have you rack your mind
> as to who would be good to approach locally who may have such cars or
> could lead us to such cars?
>
> We will have a group drive in at one time with introductions of each car
> and driver  and may be able to close off a public road to drive in on...
>
>
>  Long range goal is a "hill climb" of sorts (not many hills in new
> kent).  There are 2 venues we might be able to use to do about a 1.5
> mile  course...likely not this year unless we really get lucky!!
>
> Long Long range goals is to make this a 3 day event with auctions,
> concourse, etc....should be fun!!!
>
> Ric
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Jan 12 07:31:09 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:31:09 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2><478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
	<073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7401E72E7F@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Joe, I'll trade you for a nice condition GT6 Mk 3 body shell for the
engine/car/interior  :-)

I've been using an aluminum bellhousing on my Spit racer for years now
and have had no problem with it (but we're not really testing it with
any, you know, power, either).  I think I paid about $100 for it.

I don't know, however, which version it is (thinner v. thicker).  What
are the differences between the two versions?

Scott B.


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:41 PM
To: 'Norlin Engineering'; 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

I have one that I will let go for $15,000.00.  And I will throw in a
full
race fuel injected 1296 engine, Full synchro 3-Rail OD gearbox and a
beautiful Mk1 Spitfire body complete with interior and soft top.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Norlin Engineering
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:40 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

I did a bunch of research on this about a year ago.  The thinner one is
off
a Herald and from what I was told, is probably not a candidate for a
race
car.  Street car, sure.  I have one and would be willing to part with
it.

The thicker bellhousing is off of an early (very early) Spitfire.  They
are
very difficult to find.  I located one last year and had to give $175
for
it.

New ones are available out of England for around $500.  Spitbits
sometimes
has them in stock.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing


Is the use of a Herald bellhousing in a Spit a worthwhile
idea?   If so,  what is a fair price for one?

art de armond
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Jan 12 08:21:52 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:21:52 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Does anyone know anything about this TR 4 / 5 / 6?
In-Reply-To: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
References: <20110112061105.21C3E187644@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20110112152147.5C75C187650@autox.team.net>

Let's try that again in plain text...

http://picasaweb.google.com/tony.drews.88/DieterTR?authkey=Gv1sRgCNiMwI7_rrqPMA#

Christof from Germany is trying to help a friend find out more info 
about a TR race car that he owns.  The link above is to a couple of 
pictures that he sent me.  Here's the forwarded request:



Dear Triumph friends,

            does anybody know something about this car ?
            ( see pictures )

            I am a Triumph enthusiast for more than 30 years
            and I am racing a TR 4 for about 20 years now.

            And I bought this "TR 250" racer in may 1989 somewhere
            in Los Angeles - since that it was stored in a barn
            at my place in Paderborn / Germany.
            Before restoring it now, I would like to know some
            details of its history.
            Hope there is someone out there in California who
            remembers this special rainbow stripes.
            For several reasons it seems to me that it was never
            used as an ordinary road car.
            It has a TR4 body which was originaly a powderblue one,
            a TR250 / TR6 frame with a Datsun-Nissan 260Z rear axle,
            a Triumph TR6 racing engine, several other TR6 parts
            and special racing parts.
            If somebody can tell me anything about it I would be
            very thankfull when sending me an email to :
                        Dieter.Seidel1 at gmx.de

             Thank you very, very much   Dieter


Thanks for your attention to this request, Tony Drews


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Jan 12 09:06:47 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:06:47 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing
In-Reply-To: <E5F69447E6864C9E816C0F9ED71FB4C1@Vista>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2><478FB0F8861C4B8FB262655EBCF22CF5@TOSHIBALAPTOP>
	<073739F4C12D4F598FEDDC0AA45488DC@Vista>
	<3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7401E72E7F@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
	<E5F69447E6864C9E816C0F9ED71FB4C1@Vista>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7401E72E85@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Joe wrote: << The difference in the two housings are obvious when you
put it next to one of the steel ones.  The thicker one appears to be
cast from the same molds
as the steel one. >>

Then I must have the thinner aluminum bellhousing on my Spit racer.
It's a noticeably thinner and lighter casting than the stock cast iron
one.

It hasn't broken yet, even though someone relieved it for the
Stahl-style header at some point in the past (which removes 6-8 inches
of the circumference of the bellhousing and at least one bolt-hole where
the header slides along the side of the engine) and we drilled a
large-ish hole in it to allow clearance for the single-rail style
shifter.  But then, as I said, we're not really pushing any power
through it.  I've used it mostly with the stock-ish 1500cc motors I've
been running.

Am presently knocking on wood and expecting the bellhousing to twist off
as I pull the car on the trailer for the first race weekend of the
year....

Scott B.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:10 AM
To: Barr, Scott
Subject: RE: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing

The difference in the two housings are obvious when you put it next to
one
of the steel ones.  The thicker one appears to be cast from the same
molds
as the steel one.  The thin one is much different and is immediately
obvious
to the eye.

Joe.


From rikrock at live.com  Wed Jan 12 15:53:48 2011
From: rikrock at live.com (Rich Rock)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:53:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
Message-ID: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>

Amici,

Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the wireless
transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club
is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places we
are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be
towed by any of several different trucks.

www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html

Rich Rock


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 12 16:28:04 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:28:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>

 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further
checking








-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


Amici,



Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the wireless

transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club

is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places
we

are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be

towed by any of several different trucks.



www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html



Rich Rock

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From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Jan 12 16:53:13 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:53:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>
References: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
	<8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <7BA8B6043923485DBEE966C89C042B79@Vista>

Iowa is one of the few remaining places in the USA that still makes stuff.
:)

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:28 PM
To: rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Brakes?

 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further
checking








-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


Amici,



Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the
wireless

transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club

is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places
we

are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be

towed by any of several different trucks.



www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html



Rich Rock

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 12 17:19:00 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:19:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <7BA8B6043923485DBEE966C89C042B79@Vista>
References: <BLU139-W32CE1327EC82381F0B9544C6F10@phx.gbl>
	<8CD80C77F28DAF9-1C68-1253@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com>
	<7BA8B6043923485DBEE966C89C042B79@Vista>
Message-ID: <8CD80CE9C5B2889-1144-35E4@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>

 yes we do!

i love it here....but plan to head south for a week or two.     brrrr.








-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: n197tr4 at cs.com; rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


Iowa is one of the few remaining places in the USA that still makes stuff.

:)



Joe C.



-----Original Message-----

From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On

Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:28 PM

To: rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net

Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Brakes?



 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further

checking

















-----Original Message-----

From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>

To: fot at autox.team.net

Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm

Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?





Amici,







Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the

wireless



transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club



is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places

we



are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be



towed by any of several different trucks.







www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html







Rich Rock



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From chasgee at aol.com  Wed Jan 12 18:07:09 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:07:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <8CD80CE9C5B2889-1144-35E4@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CD80CE9C5B2889-1144-35E4@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD80D5563CAC3A-644-4E03@webmail-d091.sysops.aol.com>



From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 12 18:15:51 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:15:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <8CD80D5563CAC3A-644-4E03@webmail-d091.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CD80CE9C5B2889-1144-35E4@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>
	<8CD80D5563CAC3A-644-4E03@webmail-d091.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD80D68D84D40D-1C10-1534E@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com>

 it is worse in the south when it happens....no infrastructure or equipment to
take care of it or experience to drive in it.










-----Original Message-----
From: chasgee at aol.com
To: n197tr4 at cs.com; spitlist at cox.net; rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


south isn't much better.  just left Alabama and it was snowing...

-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
To: spitlist <spitlist at cox.net>; rikrock <rikrock at live.com>; fot
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: 12-Jan-2011 19:36:28 +0000
Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?


 yes we do!



i love it here....but plan to head south for a week or two.     brrrr.

















-----Original Message-----

From: Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>

To: n197tr4 at cs.com; rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net

Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53 pm

Subject: RE: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?





Iowa is one of the few remaining places in the USA that still makes stuff.



:)







Joe C.







-----Original Message-----



From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On



Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com



Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:28 PM



To: rikrock at live.com; fot at autox.team.net



Subject: Re: [Fot] Trailer Brakes?







 sounds cool!   i notice that it is a IOWA company....i will do some further



checking



































-----Original Message-----



From: Rich Rock <rikrock at live.com>



To: fot at autox.team.net



Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 4:53 pm



Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?











Amici,















Anyone know anything about this particular brake controller with the



wireless







transmitter?  I have to admit I never heard of it until this week.  Our club







is looking to purchase a new trailer, and the salesman at one of the places



we







are shopping says this is the way we should go, since the trailer might be







towed by any of several different trucks.















www.whatsstoppinyou.net/index.html















Rich Rock







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From chasgee at aol.com  Wed Jan 12 18:22:06 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:22:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] Trailer  Brakes?
In-Reply-To: <8CD80CE9C5B2889-1144-35E4@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>
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From cwnfot at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 19:41:36 2011
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:41:36 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing photos
In-Reply-To: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
References: <006a01cbb1de$cc7c5ef0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2>
Message-ID: <014201cbb2cb$6665e490$3331adb0$@com>

For your discussion.
Here's an album of my transmission collection, which includes at least 3
aluminum bell housings. 2 of one version and 1 of another. I see the
difference as in the style of the ribs. I don't think I have a good shot
showing the thickness of the one removed from the tranny.
http://picasaweb.google.com/cwnicholls/SpitfireTransmissionsAndBH# 
 
Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new
owner
"Reality, it's not what you think."


From rfdeanes at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 10:20:12 2011
From: rfdeanes at gmail.com (Robert Deanes)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:20:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: race
In-Reply-To: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E0945180D5BA2AF@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu>
References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E0945180D5BA2AF@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimdQcx_5e1_2HBHcqQ08c62pgz_o7n_natY1hH+@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Deanes, Robert <deanesr at uncw.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Subject: FW: race
To: "rfdeanes at gmail.com" <rfdeanes at gmail.com>

Thought some of you may enjoy this short footage that was sent to me, you
may even recognize the TRs in the footage.





*Subject:* race




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDD0tKsFx0k

Check out the road race 1963



-- 
rob deanes
TR Racer


From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Jan 13 11:11:14 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:11:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: race
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimdQcx_5e1_2HBHcqQ08c62pgz_o7n_natY1hH+@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1BB45AE37908DF40B3C2FAB9665E0945180D5BA2AF@uncwexmb1.dcs.uncw.edu>
	<AANLkTimdQcx_5e1_2HBHcqQ08c62pgz_o7n_natY1hH+@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18A20640-C340-4ACB-86C5-B59F0F9B8D0E@me.com>

nice - where have all those old cars gone - too bad they don't get  
brought out to run anymore.  There were, what, six Cobras at a  
Pennsylvania hillclimb?  By 1963 they had only made a few hundred.


On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Robert Deanes wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Deanes, Robert <deanesr at uncw.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Subject: FW: race
To: "rfdeanes at gmail.com" <rfdeanes at gmail.com>

Thought some of you may enjoy this short footage that was sent to me,  
you
may even recognize the TRs in the footage.





*Subject:* race




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDD0tKsFx0k

Check out the road race 1963



-- 
rob deanes
TR Racer
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From norlinengineering at comcast.net  Thu Jan 13 11:40:38 2011
From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:40:38 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing photos
In-Reply-To: <014201cbb2cb$6665e490$3331adb0$@com>
Message-ID: <03480CE5E5464D48B7F6ECE1F7771C01@TOSHIBALAPTOP>

Good collection of photos.  It appears that the upper photos are of the
thinner Herald Bellhousing and the lower ones are the thicker Spitfire
bellhousing.  Notice the differences in the ribbing.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clark W. Nicholls
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:42 PM
To: 'riverside'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald alloy bellhousing photos


For your discussion.
Here's an album of my transmission collection, which includes at least 3
aluminum bell housings. 2 of one version and 1 of another. I see the
difference as in the style of the ribs. I don't think I have a good shot
showing the thickness of the one removed from the tranny.
http://picasaweb.google.com/cwnicholls/SpitfireTransmissionsAndBH# 
 
Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new
owner "Reality, it's not what you think."
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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Fri Jan 14 17:52:11 2011
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:52:11 +1000
Subject: [Fot] chasing GT6 rear uprights
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHzqJrvtWpFrtbyo7ZO4O0v0rccKTKGcu8ZQ08@mail.gmail.com>

does anyone have a pair of MK2 GT6 uprights (hub carriers) they would like
to sell. thanks a lot, Terry O'Beirne, Australia


From gasket.works at gte.net  Mon Jan 17 12:33:43 2011
From: gasket.works at gte.net (gasket.works at gte.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:33:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup 2011
Message-ID: <1061187764-1295292840-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2145938510-@bda715.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Members;

Our Kcup event management group will be meeting this Jan 29 with HMSA directly.  We are hoping to finalize some details. Further information to follow.

Suffice to say that the race track is fast and fun rich with history.  Technically less difficult than Mid Ohio.  The climb up to the Cork Screw seems tougher than it actually is and the drive off the peak is smooth and faster than you want at times.  The weather will be warm and the Monterey peninsula (majestic  sights) very close. 

Stay tuned....

Mordy Dunst for the Kcup group.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 17 14:14:09 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:14:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
Message-ID: <183803.66172.qm@web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
like 
to sell?   let me know.

Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4


From rocky at spitfire4.com  Mon Jan 17 17:17:51 2011
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:17:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
References: <183803.66172.qm@web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DE4323643299481DB237EFF75389BD79@rocky>

I find what you need in the Pegasus catalogue. You'd just need to know your 
thread size into the engine block -- they have several sizes. Under 20 
bucks. Website says "in stock."

Separately they have the remote filter heads for the actual filter.

Go to www.pegasusautoracing.com and type "oil filter adapter" in the keyword 
search.

I also found them in the Summit catalogue (summitracing.com). They're 
talking about Fords and Chevies, but it's the same deal: know your thread 
size into the engine block.

--Rocky Entriken



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
To: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed


> Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
> like
> to sell?   let me know.
>
> Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4
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From adcronin at mi.rr.com  Mon Jan 17 17:32:47 2011
From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:32:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
In-Reply-To: <DE4323643299481DB237EFF75389BD79@rocky>
References: <183803.66172.qm@web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<DE4323643299481DB237EFF75389BD79@rocky>
Message-ID: <B40AD152-50B8-4809-A044-5898F0BB9C4C@mi.rr.com>

You might also try British Frame & Engine---got mine there some while back.
Dan


On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote:

> I find what you need in the Pegasus catalogue. You'd just need to know your
thread size into the engine block -- they have several sizes. Under 20 bucks.
Website says "in stock."
>
> Separately they have the remote filter heads for the actual filter.
>
> Go to www.pegasusautoracing.com and type "oil filter adapter" in the keyword
search.
>
> I also found them in the Summit catalogue (summitracing.com). They're
talking about Fords and Chevies, but it's the same deal: know your thread size
into the engine block.
>
> --Rocky Entriken
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
> To: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:14 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
>
>
>> Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
>> like
>> to sell?   let me know.
>>
>> Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4
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From deweerdm at rogers.com  Mon Jan 17 19:35:33 2011
From: deweerdm at rogers.com (MIKE DEWEERD)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:35:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
Message-ID: <202890.44772.qm@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

m.Go to "Little British Car Company"  on the web and punch in the Moss part
number to see if they have one in stock........usually 10-15% cheaper and they
are in Detroit. No commercial interest  just another part source you might
want to try.Mike 

--- On Tue, 1/18/11, Dan Cronin <adcronin at mi.rr.com> wrote:

From: Dan Cronin <adcronin at mi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
To: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky at spitfire4.com>
Cc: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 12:32 AM

You might also try British Frame & Engine---got mine there some while back.
Dan


On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote:

> I find what you need in the Pegasus catalogue. You'd just need to know your
thread size into the engine block -- they have several sizes. Under 20 bucks.
Website says "in stock."
>
> Separately they have the remote filter heads for the actual filter.
>
> Go to www.pegasusautoracing.com and type "oil filter adapter" in the
keyword
search.
>
> I also found them in the Summit catalogue (summitracing.com). They're
talking about Fords and Chevies, but it's the same deal: know your thread
size
into the engine block.
>
> --Rocky Entriken
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" <mike.mehl at yahoo.com>
> To: "Triumph Friends of" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:14 PM
> Subject: [Fot] Spin on oil filter adapter for TR4 needed
>
>
>> Looks like Moss can't supply until March.  Does anyone have one they would
>> like
>> to sell?   let me know.
>>
>> Thanks  Mike Mehl #46 TR4
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Tue Jan 18 17:40:32 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:40:32 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup 2011
Message-ID: <D3617699-E0D6-4509-BAFE-595EA4E58E4E@aol.com>

Like Mordy said...and don't forget to make your hotel reservations  
asap. The more business we show the hotel management, the more they  
are willing to do some special stuff for us. Here was the original  
notice:

FOT-

We have negotiated a discounted room rate for FOT at the Embassy  
Suites Hotel for the 2011 Kastner Cup. The Embassy Suites is the  
official hotel of Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca (http:// 
www.mazdaraceway.com) and offers close access to both the track and to  
the many attractions of the Monterey Bay area.

A block of rooms has been reserved for FOT members at the rate of  
$155.00/night (plus tax). Rooms are 2-room suites and include daily  
complimentary breakfast and Manager's cocktail reception. For  
additional information, terms and conditions, and to make a  
reservation please visit:

http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/groups/personalized/M/MRYESES-FOT-20110605/index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG
Group Name:	Friends of Triumph
Group Code:	FOT
Check-in:	05-JUN-2011
Check-out:	09-JUN-2011
Hotel Name:	Embassy Suites Monterey Bay - Seaside
Hotel Address:	1441 Canyon Del Rey
  	Seaside, California
  	93955
Phone Number:	831-393-1115

The Embassy Suites management has shown real excitement at the idea of  
hosting our fine group! With a satisfactory number of reservations,  
they have offered to set-up exclusive receptions and to provide  
dedicated parking lot  facilities for us. I encourage you to make your  
reservation as early as possible. Monterey, California is a well known  
resort area so there are many options for accommodations at various  
price levels. A partial listing can be seen at: http://www.mazdaraceway.com/pages/hotels

For those interested in camping sites/RV hook-ups, these are reserved  
through Monterey County Parks (888-588-2267) in campsites located just  
outside of the Raceway, however, reservations will not be taken until  
late January. We are also trying to get information on overnighting at  
the track which is restricted. Please stay tuned for more information  
to follow.

John Frymark


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Jan 18 20:30:47 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:30:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup 2011
In-Reply-To: <D3617699-E0D6-4509-BAFE-595EA4E58E4E@aol.com>
References: <D3617699-E0D6-4509-BAFE-595EA4E58E4E@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD85A065CC789A-12BC-816C@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com>

 You guys east of the ROCKIES and more.

What John said........there are a limited number of rooms and we will be
inviting TRIUMPH CLUBS.

Kas and Peg will be ensconced in the EMBASSY SUITES from Sunday to Wednesday,
as well as several other VIP GUESTS.  We may be afforded other amenities and
considerations if we show strength early on......hot breakfast and manager's
cocktail parties are already pretty valuable amenities, but John is working on
more.

There is a 48 hour reservation cancellation, so there is no concern there.

Thanks!  Joe      see John's note again below.









 FOT-We have negotiated a discounted room rate for FOT at the Embassy  Suites
Hotel for the 2011 Kastner Cup. The Embassy Suites is the  official hotel of
Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca (http:// www.mazdaraceway.com) and offers close
access to both the track and to  the many attractions of the Monterey Bay
area.A block of rooms has been reserved for FOT members at the rate of
$155.00/night (plus tax). Rooms are 2-room suites and include daily
complimentary breakfast and Manager's cocktail reception. For  additional
information, terms and conditions, and to make a  reservation please
visit:http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/groups/personalized/M/MRYESES-FOT
-20110605/index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POGGroup Name: Friends of TriumphGroup Code:
FOT


Check-in:   05-JUN-2011

Check-out:  09-JUN-2011

Hotel Name: Embassy Suites Monterey Bay - Seaside

Hotel Address:  1441 Canyon Del Rey

    Seaside, California

    93955

Phone Number:   831-393-1115



The Embassy Suites management has shown real excitement at the idea of

hosting our fine group! With a satisfactory number of reservations,

they have offered to set-up exclusive receptions and to provide

dedicated parking lot  facilities for us. I encourage you to make your

reservation as early as possible. Monterey, California is a well known

resort area so there are many options for accommodations at various

price levels. A partial listing can be seen at:
http://www.mazdaraceway.com/pages/hotels



For those interested in camping sites/RV hook-ups, these are reserved

through Monterey County Parks (888-588-2267) in campsites located just

outside of the Raceway, however, reservations will not be taken until

late January. We are also trying to get information on overnighting at

the track which is restricted. Please stay tuned for more information

to follow.



John Frymark

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From N197TR4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 19 11:56:22 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:56:22 EST
Subject: [Fot] 2011 LAGUNA SECA    KASTNER CUP SERIES #9   ANY QUESTIONS?
Message-ID: <114a9b.2664d311.3a688dd6@cs.com>

FOT,

The Kastner Cup Committee is scheduled to meet on the 29th of January. The 
meeting will include the owner of  HMSA.

I assume there are questions from the FOT. This would be a good time to ask 
them.

Send to me and I will summarize and submit to the KCUP Committee for their 
review on the 29th.

If your status has changed with regard to attendance or entry, please let 
me know and we will update the list of entrants and guests.

NOTE:  VARA is offering a special package to those who wish to run their 
event at Button Willow, the weekend prior to Laguna Seca.  This involves both 
reduced cost of entry and reduced track time.  This makes an excelllent 
opportunity to run another track, get some test and tune time in, and experience 
the camaraderie of the FOT. The option of running up the coast line in 
sight of the Pacific Ocean is a wonderful idea.

Regards,

Joe Alexander</HTML>


From trmarty at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 23 07:58:49 2011
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:58:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Cam Question
Message-ID: <BLU156-w39545ADE22E552C441FBEBBAFA0@phx.gbl>

I'm in the process of tearing down the 1296 spit engine. Camshaft is
identified as a K5729 REED. Anybody running this cam and have a spec sheet
stuck in a drawer?

Thanks,
Marty


From chasgee at aol.com  Sun Jan 23 12:14:38 2011
From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:14:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Fot] DCOE Weber and Cannon manifold for Spitfire
Message-ID: <8CD8948EA1AEAB8-1230-2A33C@webmail-m100.sysops.aol.com>

Hi All,

I have a 40 DCOE Weber/Cannon manifold set, ready to bolt on a 1300 or 1500
Spitfire.  Anyone interested?  $400 plus shipping.  Let me know.

Thanks,

Chuck Gee


From tr4.tony at virgin.net  Sun Jan 23 12:50:08 2011
From: tr4.tony at virgin.net (tr4.tony e-mail)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:50:08 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Lawrencetune Rocker Cover and Weber Manifolds
Message-ID: <AANLkTimHwofvdtxBfMzT32qd5XgXWbDdE8S_3_A2Fe3s@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

Ive got a NOS Lawrencetune alloy rocker cover and a pair of the marked weber
manifolds which I wont use now - Ive put them on ebay uk but if any listers
are interested email me at tr4.tony at virgin.net and they are yours minus the
ebay fee! Both items are new an unused, and ive just had them machined up on
a good 511695 head, so all thats needed is the internal port matching etc.
etc.

Just sent the other set of manifolds by DHL to the US for #30, so this is
the cheapest way as the post prices from the UK here are getting crazy so
beware !

Regards and best to all

Tony


From N197TR4 at cs.com  Sun Jan 23 13:54:28 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:54:28 EST
Subject: [Fot] LAGUNA SECA   7-8 JUNE 2011   KASTNER CUP SERIES #9
Message-ID: <d21a3.6a1e5031.3a6def84@cs.com>

Some musings and information:

I am looking forward to running Laguna Seca.  This is to be a family event 
with my sons running the TR4.   Once in a lifetime opportunity for many of 
us.

Our KCUP committee is having a planning meeting on the 29th of January and 
it will include Cris Vandagriff of HMSA.  There should be a lot of 
information that comes out of this meeting. 

It's a long tow for many of us, but I know that there are already 
reservations in place from Ohio and Texas. Hope to see many folks there.  We also 
have some very special guests that have reservations made for travel and 
lodging. This includes folks from the UK and Ohio.

At least one FOT plans to run the VARA event the weekend prior, at Button 
Willow. I am sure there are more.  

I got a call on Friday from one of the Co-Chairs of the BUTTON WILLOW 
British Extravaganza and they will be extending a special invitation to the FOT. 
The VARA Board of Directors will be meeting early February. On the agenda is 
how they make their event very attractive to us FOT folks with long tows 
from the east. We should hear about their plans very quickly following their 
board meeting.

I suspect Kas & Peg will be stopping off at Button Willow enroute to Laguna 
Seca, too. This seems like an great opportunity for a FOT Pre-Party 
followed by a trip up the Pacific Coast Highway past the Hearst Castle and Big Sur.

Those coming in from the north will likely stop off at Infineon for the 
CSRG event. Always good to have choices.

See you there.

Joe Alexander</HTML>


From horizonracing at msn.com  Sun Jan 23 14:53:35 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:53:35 -0800
Subject: [Fot] LAGUNA SECA   7-8 JUNE 2011   KASTNER CUP SERIES #9
In-Reply-To: <d21a3.6a1e5031.3a6def84@cs.com>
References: <d21a3.6a1e5031.3a6def84@cs.com>
Message-ID: <SNT141-w23C2274ABE71FAE8920DDEB2FA0@phx.gbl>

Joe,
Just to Clarify , The Infineon event is a" General Racing inc" event, not
CSRG. I know that Jeff Quick has been invited to attend with his TR4A. This
event has a couple a different feature cars this year. McLaren (I heard Bobby
Rahal is in a ex BMMR factory M8D), 50's sports cars and 50's front engine
Grand prix cars . Something like 375/400 cars.

Thank you
Tony

> From: N197TR4 at cs.com
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:54:28 -0500
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] LAGUNA SECA 7-8 JUNE 2011 KASTNER CUP SERIES #9
>
> Some musings and information:
>
> I am looking forward to running Laguna Seca. This is to be a family event
> with my sons running the TR4. Once in a lifetime opportunity for many of
> us.
>
> Our KCUP committee is having a planning meeting on the 29th of January and
> it will include Cris Vandagriff of HMSA. There should be a lot of
> information that comes out of this meeting.
>
> It's a long tow for many of us, but I know that there are already
> reservations in place from Ohio and Texas. Hope to see many folks there. We
also
> have some very special guests that have reservations made for travel and
> lodging. This includes folks from the UK and Ohio.
>
> At least one FOT plans to run the VARA event the weekend prior, at Button
> Willow. I am sure there are more.
>
> I got a call on Friday from one of the Co-Chairs of the BUTTON WILLOW
> British Extravaganza and they will be extending a special invitation to the
FOT.
> The VARA Board of Directors will be meeting early February. On the agenda is
> how they make their event very attractive to us FOT folks with long tows
> from the east. We should hear about their plans very quickly following their
> board meeting.
>
> I suspect Kas & Peg will be stopping off at Button Willow enroute to Laguna
> Seca, too. This seems like an great opportunity for a FOT Pre-Party
> followed by a trip up the Pacific Coast Highway past the Hearst Castle and
Big Sur.
>
> Those coming in from the north will likely stop off at Infineon for the
> CSRG event. Always good to have choices.
>
> See you there.
>
> Joe Alexander</HTML>
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From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Sun Jan 23 14:53:43 2011
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:53:43 +1000
Subject: [Fot] floods in australia
Message-ID: <AANLkTimibPz1kzmuDM2Qmfd4x+f-SWYKPhrVHrnmoKyD@mail.gmail.com>

many thanks to all the FOT'ers who emailed us about the floods. we are in
Ipswich where the worst flooding occurred, but thankfully home and cars are
high & dry, and we are all safe. unfortunately our chassis dyno
was completely submerged along with numerous cars etc at our son-in-laws
workshop. numerous people have however lost their lives and/or livelihood.
To give you an idea of the scale of the problem, 80% of the state of
Queensland has been declared a disaster area. Whilst sparsely populated, it
is many times the size of most US States and I'm told equal to France &
Germany combined. About 30,000 homes & businesses are directly affected,
 with many seriously. Some washed away, some completely submerged. Other
areas are now bracing for similar flooding due to the combination of
never-seen rainfall, dams already full and regular king tides making
drainage to sea more difficult.
For the past 2 weeks, most locals have been brooming mud out of house,
stripping plaster walls, re-wiring  etc. In some near-river suburbs, the
entire contents of hundreds of homes has been stripped and dumped. its all a
bit heartbreaking.

Terry O'Beirne


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Mon Jan 24 13:28:26 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:28:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
Message-ID: <000001cbbc05$42f6f3d0$c8e4db70$@com>

I just got my copy of the March issue of Classic Motorsports and there is a
news release on Pg. 106 about new Nitrophyl floats for the SU H6 carbs from
Joe Curto Inc..  I had procrastinated on trying to duplicate the aluminum
ones that Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer had made and am glad I did so.  I
just ordered 2 of the floats for our H6 carbs on the 1961 TR4 race car from
Joe for $22.50 each.  Seems like a bargain for floats that won't leak.
The Nitrophyl is "a foamlike elastomer that's resistant to modern fuels,
including ethanol" according to the press release.  We'll try them out this
summer.  I was starting to run out of the brass floats that didn't leak.

 

No commercial interest.

 

Tim Murphy


From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 24 14:40:41 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:40:41 EST
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
Message-ID: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/24/2011 2:49:57 PM Central Standard Time, 
timmurph at fastbytes.com writes:


> I just got my copy of the March issue of Classic Motorsports and there is 
> a
> news release on Pg. 106 about new Nitrophyl floats for the SU H6 carbs 
> from
> Joe Curto Inc..  I had procrastinated on trying to duplicate the aluminum
> ones that Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer had made and am glad I did so.  I
> just ordered 2 of the floats for our H6 carbs on the 1961 TR4 race car 
> from
> Joe for $22.50 each.  Seems like a bargain for floats that won't leak.
> The Nitrophyl is "a foamlike elastomer that's resistant to modern fuels,
> including ethanol" according to the press release.  We'll try them out 
> this
> summer.  I was starting to run out of the brass floats that didn't leak.
> 
> 

Where the hell did you find brass floats that didn't leak?

Bill (Damdinger)


From tlizzard at msn.com  Mon Jan 24 15:10:55 2011
From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:10:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
In-Reply-To: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
References: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds17C56929182E13E312BE8BC3FD0@phx.gbl>

  Where the hell did you find brass floats that didn't leak?

  Bill (Damdinger)

  There is no such thing anymore!  They all leak.

  Terry Stetler


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Mon Jan 24 16:04:20 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:04:20 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
In-Reply-To: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
References: <108e9.11f2ddb2.3a6f4bd9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000601cbbc1b$08f08370$1ad18a50$@com>

Okay, let me rephrase that.  I'm starting to run out of brass floats that
don't leak yet!

 

From: BillDentin at aol.com [mailto:BillDentin at aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:41 PM
To: timmurph at fastbytes.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto

 

In a message dated 01/24/2011 2:49:57 PM Central Standard Time,
timmurph at fastbytes.com writes:





I just got my copy of the March issue of Classic Motorsports and there is a
news release on Pg. 106 about new Nitrophyl floats for the SU H6 carbs from
Joe Curto Inc..  I had procrastinated on trying to duplicate the aluminum
ones that Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer had made and am glad I did so.  I
just ordered 2 of the floats for our H6 carbs on the 1961 TR4 race car from
Joe for $22.50 each.  Seems like a bargain for floats that won't leak.
The Nitrophyl is "a foamlike elastomer that's resistant to modern fuels,
including ethanol" according to the press release.  We'll try them out this
summer.  I was starting to run out of the brass floats that didn't leak.



Where the hell did you find brass floats that didn't leak?

Bill (Damdinger)


From billdentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 24 16:53:44 2011
From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:53:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SU H6 Nitrophyl floats from Joe Curto
In-Reply-To: <69ECC61D87804898896B591E08FCA74D@roberta16b8c09>
References: <10958.377d5f65.3a6f4bf3@aol.com>
	<69ECC61D87804898896B591E08FCA74D@roberta16b8c09>
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Bob Wismer writes:  Finally......He is about 2 years late for us, but good for
the other TR owners. The solution is what I discussed with Jack Drews and he
passed.........not his thing...Wismer

I think you and Jack knew what the fix was back then, and I remeber Jack
spending 'some' effort on it, but understood him to say the quantities (at
least the numbers he was using) could not attract interests from the people he
contacted.  Time change.  Hooray for our side!.

Bill Dentinger


From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon Jan 24 17:38:43 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:38:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] question about Southwick axle mod
In-Reply-To: <1825764439.1608975.1295902745206.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1099896219.1622898.1295915923824.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hello FoT, 
Has anyone ever noticed the location of the Ford flanges to be offset or not centered on the axle tubes? 
I've talked with Southwick and they said their jig centers and squares to the inner bearing, but I'm curios if others have noticed this. 


Comments appreciated, 
Dave H. 


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Tue Jan 25 11:51:27 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:51:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Second badge run
Message-ID: <B62535F6-D31F-4401-9C23-A89326633791@aol.com>

Amici
Second run has arrived.  If you have paid for one it will be shipped out soon

Thanks

Chris


From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Jan 25 12:32:53 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:32:53 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Second badge run
References: <B62535F6-D31F-4401-9C23-A89326633791@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D1CCD479397D4C4BBC6E1B9E51A5DFA7@Bud>

Thanks Chris!
Racer Bud
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Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Second badge run


> Amici
> Second run has arrived.  If you have paid for one it will be shipped out 
> soon
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Tue Jan 25 20:30:01 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:30:01 GMT
Subject: [Fot] question about Southwick axle mod
Message-ID: <20110125.223001.4860.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

I had not noticed this on the one that I had Southwick make (I did not really
look), but I later had ends welded on another axle using my own jig and
noticed that when centered on the diff bearings the small ford ends were not
perfectly centered on the tubes.  My axle tubes, however, had brackets welded
on them for the 4-link system, which likely warped them.   I also welded the
tubes to the carrier housing and noticed that as I did this the tubes would
shift around.  Do all your welding before having the small ford ends welded
on.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: davehogye <dlhogye at comcast.net>
To: Fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] question about Southwick axle mod
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:38:43 +0000 (UTC)

Hello FoT,
Has anyone ever noticed the location of the Ford flanges to be offset or not
centered on the axle tubes?
I've talked with Southwick and they said their jig centers and squares to the
inner bearing, but I'm curios if others have noticed this.


Comments appreciated,
Dave H.
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From N197TR4 at cs.com  Wed Jan 26 10:56:30 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:56:30 EST
Subject: [Fot] MADMARX VITON SEAL - Need Cores
Message-ID: <423de.68b669b0.3a71ba4e@cs.com>

FOT.......somewhat commercial.

Christian Marx' new seal design has demand outstripping supply.

It seems to be a brilliant design, especially if you do everything right as 
you should, in the final assembly of the engine....see Kas' new book on 
this.

I just received some more of the seals, and expect more in the near future.

Engine builders are ordering multiple units and CORES are slow to come in.  
So we have a bottle neck in delivery. 

At the moment there is no margin on the seals that come to North America 
and we are trying to keep the price low.  We have the hope that if we keep 
supplying, eventually a reasonable margin will come our way. Price may have to 
increase in the future, too.

So:

If you want a MADMARX VITON SEAL KIT please send me your interest and I 
will put you on the Seal Kit Register and will inform you when modified scrolls 
are available.

Some of the FOT have sent me extra OEM Scrolls that they had on the shelf 
with no plans to use.  This gave me a 'float' of 10-15 scrolls, but with the 
demand it is not enough. If you want to support this program, it seems 
worthwhile. Let me know, if you can.

THANKS!

Joe A.

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed Jan 26 15:35:42 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:35:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <589218.10725.qm@smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I would like to nominate Craig Leinicke , a Triumph racer to the group. Here
is a short introduction taken from a couple of Craig's emails. He will add
to the background later.
 
Craig  used to race EP TR3's for years and then  raced a TR7 in IT for 5
years. 
He raced with Triumph national championship drivers Hardy Prentice and Jack
Wheeler in the 1983 SCCA National Runoffs at Road Atlanta. Jack Wheeler and
he were friends at that time and he raced with a few of Jack's cast off
parts.
 Craig is doing some land speed racing  with TR7 .
 His stuff is online at:
 <http://www.flashbackracing.com> http://www.flashbackracing.com 
 
Very interesting guy and I'm sure will fit right in with the group.
 
Paul MacDonald
 
Can't have too many Wedge racers in the group..... 


From budscars at comcast.net  Wed Jan 26 16:40:22 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:40:22 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [TTSCC] Fw: HELP WITH HISTORY OF MY RACECAR. [1
	Attachment]
Message-ID: <C8A536BCBFDB4C76A5847F0C38F41F2F@Bud>

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Hi Gang...I'm trying to put together some history of my Spitfire Racecar...The
dark blue #21 that I race with CSRG...The photos are how the car was raced in
the San Francisco Region SCCA.

SCCA solo 1 from 1977 through 1981 by Bill Gee(William George Gee)(Monterey,
Ca. area)
SCCA Regionals and Solo 1 1985 and 1986 by Ron Jardine(San Jose, CA. area).

The car was given to Triumphs Only in San Jose(now Stockton) in 1996...and was
rescued in 1997..
Any help will be appreciated.
scroll down for the link to photos
Thanks!
Racer Bud




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From budscars at comcast.net  Wed Jan 26 18:07:31 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:07:31 -0800
Subject: [Fot] SPITFIRE HISTORY
Message-ID: <4F690B7370C84DAAB47AE45272E6C614@Bud>

Hi Gang....I found the original owner/racer...of my Spitfire through Triumph
Travelers..


From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Jan 26 19:10:50 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:10:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
In-Reply-To: <589218.10725.qm@smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <589218.10725.qm@smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <150B2E31-1F28-48D5-B7C5-C691CF017E89@comcast.net>

Land speed racing in a TR7?, very cool. Let me be the first to second  
that.

Jim g


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:35 PM, "macdonaldp" <macdonaldp at rogers.com> wrote:

> I would like to nominate Craig Leinicke , a Triumph racer to the  
> group. Here
> is a short introduction taken from a couple of Craig's emails. He  
> will add
> to the background later.
>
> Craig  used to race EP TR3's for years and then  raced a TR7 in IT  
> for 5
> years.
> He raced with Triumph national championship drivers Hardy Prentice  
> and Jack
> Wheeler in the 1983 SCCA National Runoffs at Road Atlanta. Jack  
> Wheeler and
> he were friends at that time and he raced with a few of Jack's cast  
> off
> parts.
> Craig is doing some land speed racing  with TR7 .
> His stuff is online at:
> <http://www.flashbackracing.com> http://www.flashbackracing.com
>
> Very interesting guy and I'm sure will fit right in with the group.
>
> Paul MacDonald
>
> Can't have too many Wedge racers in the group.....
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From igofaster at att.net  Wed Jan 26 20:23:15 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:23:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
Message-ID: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane? I've 
rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe Curto 
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration 
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings. 


Bobby Whitehead 


From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Jan 26 21:02:09 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:02:09 -0600
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
In-Reply-To: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110127040206.AF47C187643@autox.team.net>

It's possible, but mine have worked fine since 2003 with leaded 110 
octane.  It's the Oxygen sensors that the leaded gas kills.

- Tony

At 09:23 PM 1/26/2011, Bobby Whitehead wrote:
>Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 
>octane? I've
>rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt 
>Joe Curto
>carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration
>between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings.
>
>
>Bobby Whitehead


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 27 01:20:41 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:20:41 +0100
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
In-Reply-To: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601cbbdfb$17a3c1c0$46eb4540$@com>

Bosch says about < 20,000 km with 0,6 g Pb/Liter.

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2011 04:23
An: FoT Triumph
Betreff: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane?
I've
rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe
Curto
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low
registration
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings.


Bobby Whitehead
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 27 07:54:33 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:54:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
In-Reply-To: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <513761.80839.qm@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <459873.66606.qm@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have had the reading differently right out of the box. That is why I use three 
of them (with a rotary switch) and swap them around to verify the bad ones.
Mike
#28 EP TR6




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From: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
To: FoT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 9:23:15 PM
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane? I've 

rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe Curto 
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration 
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings. 


Bobby Whitehead 
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From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Thu Jan 27 17:54:56 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:54:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Moss Quick Rack for TR4
Message-ID: <4D4213E0.2030208@blacksburg.net>

Folks,
Moss has their quick rack on sale, something over which I've lusted for 
years, but it's for late-model TR4s (after CT20000).  Has anyone tried 
to install it in an earlier car?

TIA

jim

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go


From jaboruch at netzero.net  Thu Jan 27 18:48:01 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:48:01 GMT
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
Message-ID: <20110127.204801.9610.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

The lead should not be an issue, but like anything they can go bad.  Make sure
that the wire connections are all clean.  It would not take much corrosion to
change the readings.  Only use the original connections and wires.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster at att.net>
To: FoT Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] EGT Meters, Faulty?
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:23:15 -0800 (PST)

Would E.G.T. probes become faulty over 2-3 years running leaded 110 octane?
I've
rebuilt my engine, fabricated another intake manifold for my rebuilt Joe
Curto
carburetors and still have mixed up readings. Too hot or too low registration
between 1 cylinder and 6 cylinder readings.


Bobby Whitehead
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Fri Jan 28 02:57:41 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:57:41 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
Message-ID: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>

Amici,

Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US. 

I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but
there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc

Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail order
vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?

Thank you !

Cheers!

Alex

(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Jan 28 07:55:24 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:55:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <8CD8D1282914B8D-156C-5254@webmail-stg-m05.sysops.aol.com>

 there are a number of suppliers on the FOT list.

i'd like to think that the contributions trump the commercial aspects.

they should reveal themselves to you...if i try i will miss someone.










-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 3:57 am
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers


Amici,



Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to

order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.



I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but

there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc



Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail order

vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?



Thank you !



Cheers!



Alex



(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Jan 28 09:20:27 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:20:27 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>

Here's a few

http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ - Triumph speed parts - Ken 
Gillanders is a great guy and I like to support him
http://www.tildentechnologies.com/ - "Larry Cam" for the TR-2 to 4
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ - Triumph parts - I buy my "tri-metal" 
bearings, payen gaskets and the rear lip seal here - good prices
http://www.mossmotors.com/ - Triumph parts
http://www.goodparts.com/ - TR-6 parts, many performance upgrades
The last 3 all carry my heavy duty front axle kit

Non-Triumph
http://www.Jegs.com - general speed parts, similar to Summit
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ - Weber parts
http://joecurto.com/ - SU carb parts, rebuild, etc
http://www.applehydraulics.com/index.htm - Lever shocks
http://carshopinc.com/ - local speed shop, GREAT prices on many 
things, extensive online catalog - helps if you know the part number you want

- Tony Drews


At 03:57 AM 1/28/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Amici,
>
>Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
>order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>
>I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but
>there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>
>Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail order
>vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>
>Thank you !
>
>Cheers!
>
>Alex
>
>(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
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From andre at gt6.ca  Fri Jan 28 09:57:03 2011
From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:57:03 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
	<20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiny3Q1OzAhwmFQXba2yJP_Bm7KgCciybELto4kk@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/

On 28 January 2011 11:20, Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote:
> Here's a few
>
> http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ - Triumph speed parts - Ken
Gillanders
> is a great guy and I like to support him
> http://www.tildentechnologies.com/ - "Larry Cam" for the TR-2 to 4
> http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ - Triumph parts - I buy my "tri-metal"
bearings,
> payen gaskets and the rear lip seal here - good prices
> http://www.mossmotors.com/ - Triumph parts
> http://www.goodparts.com/ - TR-6 parts, many performance upgrades
> The last 3 all carry my heavy duty front axle kit
>
> Non-Triumph
> http://www.Jegs.com - general speed parts, similar to Summit
> http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ - Weber parts
> http://joecurto.com/ - SU carb parts, rebuild, etc
> http://www.applehydraulics.com/index.htm - Lever shocks
> http://carshopinc.com/ - local speed shop, GREAT prices on many things,
> extensive online catalog - helps if you know the part number you want
>
> - Tony Drews
>
>
> At 03:57 AM 1/28/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>>
>> Amici,
>>
>> Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
>> order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>>
>> I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com,
>> but
>> there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>>
>> Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail
>> order
>> vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>>
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> (TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
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>>
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From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Jan 28 10:08:00 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:08:00 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
In-Reply-To: <20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
	<20110128162021.CCF72187657@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <51BFBB47467544FFB01157876EF3C31B@Vista>

Don't forget that I am selling camber compensators for early Spits, Heralds
and Mk1 GT6's.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:20 AM
To: Alexandre Camoletti; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Race parts suppliers

Here's a few

http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ - Triumph speed parts - Ken 
Gillanders is a great guy and I like to support him
http://www.tildentechnologies.com/ - "Larry Cam" for the TR-2 to 4
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ - Triumph parts - I buy my "tri-metal" 
bearings, payen gaskets and the rear lip seal here - good prices
http://www.mossmotors.com/ - Triumph parts
http://www.goodparts.com/ - TR-6 parts, many performance upgrades
The last 3 all carry my heavy duty front axle kit

Non-Triumph
http://www.Jegs.com - general speed parts, similar to Summit
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ - Weber parts
http://joecurto.com/ - SU carb parts, rebuild, etc
http://www.applehydraulics.com/index.htm - Lever shocks
http://carshopinc.com/ - local speed shop, GREAT prices on many 
things, extensive online catalog - helps if you know the part number you
want

- Tony Drews


At 03:57 AM 1/28/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Amici,
>
>Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
>order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>
>I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, but
>there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>
>Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail
order
>vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>
>Thank you !
>
>Cheers!
>
>Alex
>
>(TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
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From riverside at southslope.net  Fri Jan 28 16:01:17 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:01:17 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spit  valves
Message-ID: <587762AE3C3D41A19274C1FF05A4BD14@rileyPC>

Does anybody have some wisdom to share regarding installing
larger  valves in Spit 1500 heads.   Building a fairly stout
autoX engine with probably about 270 cam, 9:1 or
so compression, header,  two 40 DCOEbs.

Thanks!!

art de armond


From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Jan 28 17:52:43 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:52:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spit  valves
In-Reply-To: <587762AE3C3D41A19274C1FF05A4BD14@rileyPC>
References: <587762AE3C3D41A19274C1FF05A4BD14@rileyPC>
Message-ID: <FB2BA0305F594B8E8053411ED5876E4F@Vista>

There were a couple if years in the mid 70's where the 1500 heads came with
larger exhaust valves.  My recommendation is to start with one of these.  It
minimizes the complications.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of riverside at southslope.net
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 4:01 PM
To: FOT
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spit valves

Does anybody have some wisdom to share regarding installing
larger  valves in Spit 1500 heads.   Building a fairly stout
autoX engine with probably about 270 cam, 9:1 or
so compression, header,  two 40 DCOEbs.

Thanks!!

art de armond
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Sat Jan 29 06:31:38 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (dos_gusanos at msn.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:31:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
Message-ID: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>

Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6.
does Moss sell suitable material?   Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sat Jan 29 09:05:39 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:05:39 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
References: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AF29C5EC55054182B76228487C24EEBF@desktop>

I buy mine from British Parts NW.  They have 3 grades of bearings.
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/cat/TR250-TR6--Main%20Engine%20Components
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:31 AM
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings


> Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the 
> TR6.
> does Moss sell suitable material?   Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque
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From vintage.racer at comcast.net  Sat Jan 29 09:12:21 2011
From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (vintage.racer at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:12:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <269435184.1152664.1296317541125.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Henry: 

You can try Basil Adams up here in N.CA., he has a supply of NOS Vandervell bearings. I've purchased sets from him in the past, nice fellow to deal with. Contact at (707)762-0974 or basiladams at yahoo.com. 

Gary 

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:31:38 AM 
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings 

Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6. 
does Moss sell suitable material? Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque 
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sat Jan 29 09:21:41 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:21:41 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
Message-ID: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF, BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Sat Jan 29 09:34:31 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:34:31 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000601cbbfd2$69399590$3bacc0b0$@com>

British Parts NW is where I've gotten the bearings for the TR4 race car.  I
get the "tri-metal" bearings. I'm not sure what the additional cost is over
the "bi-metal" ones but for the work to replace the bearings the incremental
cost would seem worth it.  They are the "King" "County" bearings made in
Israel.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of dos_gusanos at msn.com
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:32 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings

Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6.
does Moss sell suitable material?   Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sat Jan 29 09:42:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:42:35 +0100
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
In-Reply-To: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <000501cbbfd3$8a2a6530$9e7f2f90$@com>

I combined the TR4 version with the later ones:
I just flipped around these o-rings from the TR4 to seal it.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Charly Mitchel
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Januar 2011 17:22
An: Friends
Betreff: [Fot] Trunion seals

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a
flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone
arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF,
BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Jan 29 09:58:09 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:58:09 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
In-Reply-To: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <CBB5F17F1BA94BE88EF176827756EE96@Vista>

BPNW has it listed for $22.00 per side.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:22 AM
To: Friends
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a
flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone
arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF,
BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Jan 29 10:04:40 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:04:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
In-Reply-To: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <4E66069787CE44B39FBC6AD798F88650@Vista>

660-998  $89.95  MAJOR SUSPENSION KIT (repairs both sides) 

The parts are contained in the above kit from Moss.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:22 AM
To: Friends
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals

Good day all,
I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and for
the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a
flat
washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone
arm.
The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a trunion
bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF,
BPNW
etc.
Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's and
Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your racecars?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Sat Jan 29 11:37:17 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:37:17 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals
References: <F107847CF4704C82B500FD62D72177A7@desktop>
Message-ID: <BABE17DFEF294475A7FB1F8AB585A1C0@desktop>

Yes I've seen all the kits that the local parts guys sell and they all 
include the cup, flat and O ring in them.  The others are the lower inner 
kit.  What I'm looking for is a solid simple bushing set for the pivot of 
the lower a arms to the trunion.  It seems someone should make one out of 
nylatron or delrin.  Maybe the way to go is make it out of brass.
Any thoughts about that?

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

if you look at the description of these or the illustration, they all have 
the numerous parts in them and none contain the simple bushing.
BPNW has it listed for $22.00 per side.
660-998  $89.95  MAJOR SUSPENSION KIT (repairs both sides)
http://www.zeni.net/trf/TR6bluebook/112.php






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
To: "Friends" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: [Fot] Trunion seals


> Good day all,
> I'm rebuilding my TR6 front suspension and I've got all the bushings and 
> for
> the inner joints and I'm looking for a solution to the trunion pivot seal
> parts.  The stock system consists of a distance tube, a nylon bushing, a 
> flat
> washer, a 'o' ring and a cupped washer on each side of the lower wishbone 
> arm.
> The equates to 18 pieces to make up this seal/joint.  I don't see a 
> trunion
> bushing/seal kit available from the major suppliers, i.e. Moss, VB, TRF, 
> BPNW
> etc.
> Is there a easier better way?  I believe these are the same on all TR's 
> and
> Spits and maybe other Triumphs.  What are you guys doing for your 
> racecars?
>
> Charly Mitchel
> TR6 #44
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From jhassall at blacksburg.net  Sat Jan 29 15:16:35 2011
From: jhassall at blacksburg.net (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:16:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Moss Quick Rack for TR4 - the answer from Moss
Message-ID: <4D4491C3.1020007@blacksburg.net>

I asked about installing Moss' "quick rack" in an early TR4 (different 
rack mounting configuration than later cars).  Here's Moss Tech 
Support's answer:

The term "horizontal mount" refers to the orientation of the U-bolt, not to
the position of the mount itself. The crux is of the interchangeability
issue, is the way these different racks mount, and therefore the specific
design of the rack housing with regards to the mounting. The housing of the
later rack has cast parts which interfere with the early-style mounting
system, and is also missing parts which are necessary for the early-style
mounting system.

So until we can come up with a different design, sorry, you're out of luck.

I've been told by a reliable wrencher that mounting brackets can be 
fabricated, so removing the earlier "ears" and welding the new brackets 
is a possible recourse.

hth

jim

-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go



-- 
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go


From barry at penybryn.ca  Sat Jan 29 15:51:22 2011
From: barry at penybryn.ca (Barry Munson)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:51:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT Patches
Message-ID: <000601cbc007$0f305180$2d90f480$@ca>

Amici - I have received a small shipment of the FOT coat of arms embroidered
on an oval background patch, measuring 3 in. X 2 in.. These patches are
identical to the badges that Chris is offering because they are based on the
art work and setup that he provided - thanks to Chris for agreeing to share
this. 

To keep things as simple as possible ( for this kind of endeavour both in
terms of volume, location and cost paypal will not work for me up here in
Canada) any member who would like one (or more) of these patches simply put
$5.00 (cash or cheque) for the first one and $3.00 for any additional ones
into an envelope and send it to me at the following address:

 

Barry Munson

52028 Range Road 224,

Sherwood Park, Alberta,

Canada

T8C 1B7

 

Include your return address and e-mail address and I will mail your patch
the same day and send you an e-mail confirmation.

 

The above costs are based on actual costs with absolutely no mark up or
margin added as this is definitely not a commercial endeavour - the patches
cost $3.00 each and mailing from here is approximately $2.00.

 

As I have no idea what the demand may be I have kept the initial production
run quite small so please bear with me if demand outstrips supply there may
be a slight delay as another production run is ordered.

 

If you have any questions please send me a note.

 

Thanks.

Barry.


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Jan 29 17:21:29 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:21:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT Patches
In-Reply-To: <000601cbc007$0f305180$2d90f480$@ca>
References: <000601cbc007$0f305180$2d90f480$@ca>
Message-ID: <697A04AE-B399-4E6F-81FC-A96B4AA9E0E2@aol.com>

Amici,
I have personally seen these patches. Quality looks good to me. Price is
excellent!  This is a great addition to your drivers suit! I can't wait to
finish my car and put the badge on the car and the patch on my suit.  Only
question I have is where do I put the patch on my suit?


Chris

On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:51 PM, "Barry Munson" <barry at penybryn.ca> wrote:

> Amici - I have received a small shipment of the FOT coat of arms
embroidered
> on an oval background patch, measuring 3 in. X 2 in.. These patches are
> identical to the badges that Chris is offering because they are based on
the
> art work and setup that he provided - thanks to Chris for agreeing to share
> this.
>
> To keep things as simple as possible ( for this kind of endeavour both in
> terms of volume, location and cost paypal will not work for me up here in
> Canada) any member who would like one (or more) of these patches simply put
> $5.00 (cash or cheque) for the first one and $3.00 for any additional ones
> into an envelope and send it to me at the following address:
>
>
>
> Barry Munson
>
> 52028 Range Road 224,
>
> Sherwood Park, Alberta,
>
> Canada
>
> T8C 1B7
>
>
>
> Include your return address and e-mail address and I will mail your patch
> the same day and send you an e-mail confirmation.
>
>
>
> The above costs are based on actual costs with absolutely no mark up or
> margin added as this is definitely not a commercial endeavour - the patches
> cost $3.00 each and mailing from here is approximately $2.00.
>
>
>
> As I have no idea what the demand may be I have kept the initial production
> run quite small so please bear with me if demand outstrips supply there may
> be a slight delay as another production run is ordered.
>
>
>
> If you have any questions please send me a note.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Barry.
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>
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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Sat Jan 29 17:21:56 2011
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:21:56 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers
References: <000b01cbbed1$ce6d4120$6b47c360$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <3548AF05F1FC4837B4625A036A636FD3@rocky>

Of course a lot of "race parts" are simply stock parts. Your brake pads may 
be trick, but they go in stock calipers, etc. And so...

www.tsimportedautomotive.com - that's Ted Schumacher, a member of this list. 
He's in Ohio
www.the-roadster-factory.com - Pennsylvania
www.victoriabritish.com - Kansas City

Other general speed stuff:
www.speedwaymotors.com - Lincoln, Neb - on a par with Summit and Jeg's - 
calls itself "America's Oldest Speed Shop"

And sometimes I shop on your side of the pond:
www.canleyclassics.com - Warwickshire - I've found stuff there unobtainable 
here, like 4:55 ring & pinion sets for my Spitfire.

--Rocky Entriken


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexandre Camoletti" <ac at camoletti.ch>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:57 AM
Subject: [Fot] Race parts suppliers


> Amici,
>
> Being located in Europe, and USA being for us a racer's heaven, I tend to
> order more and more race parts, tools equipment and supplies from the US.
>
> I am aware of a few websites, such as Summit and Pegasusautoracing.com, 
> but
> there are certainly several others, each with its different range, etc
>
> Are there any other websites of reputable race parts and supplies mail 
> order
> vendors with a good range of stuff you had good experience with?
>
> Thank you !
>
> Cheers!
>
> Alex
>
> (TR3A 59, currently prepped for long distance road racing)
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Sun Jan 30 07:19:19 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (dos_gusanos at msn.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:19:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Where to buy TR6 engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <000601cbbfd2$69399590$3bacc0b0$@com>
References: <SNT134-w304C4701195C312EB3FFBF90E00@phx.gbl>,
	<000601cbbfd2$69399590$3bacc0b0$@com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-w763D4A3131D6BF86BE45F90E30@phx.gbl>

Good Morning, Thanks to all for all the replies.  As usual the folks on the
list come through again with great information,  and the parts I need at a
great deal.  I guess I should just post everything I need for the
rebuild..................Cheers, Henry Morrison, TR4,6,7,  Albuquerque, NM
>
> Good morning, I need to buy some .030" oversize rods and mains for the TR6.
> does Moss sell suitable material? Cheers Henry Morrison, Albuquerque
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 10:27:58 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:27:58 EST
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
Message-ID: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>

Amici...

I've not watched it yet, but...

My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw this 
DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought 
it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin (tsk) wants 
to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does business 
at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver, he'll do 
whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all of he 
relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But as Jay 
works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes face 
to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to assume 
this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the moviemaking 
ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig Ziglar, 
a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are 
interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there.  Produced by 
Sherwood Pictures.

I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting 
too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax video 
tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also 
found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to get some of 
them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good 
condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not found many in 
car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE 
compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these days.  In 
addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and heavier than 
a car battery.  Great fun & memories.

Bill Dentinger


From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 30 11:31:18 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:31:18 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
In-Reply-To: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E134265B-4AF9-4E0F-ACDB-6FD68B050434@earthlink.net>

http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel-DVD-2007_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ62333947


http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ64427678



~Steve

On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:

Amici...

I've not watched it yet, but...

My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw  
this
DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought
it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin  
(tsk) wants
to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does  
business
at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver,  
he'll do
whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all  
of he
relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But  
as Jay
works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes  
face
to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to  
assume
this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the  
moviemaking
ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig  
Ziglar,
a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are
interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there.   
Produced by
Sherwood Pictures.

I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting
too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax  
video
tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also
found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to  
get some of
them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good
condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not  
found many in
car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE
compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these  
days.  In
addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and  
heavier than
a car battery.  Great fun & memories.

Bill Dentinger
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From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Jan 30 12:33:35 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:33:35 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
	<E134265B-4AF9-4E0F-ACDB-6FD68B050434@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <80FB77A46F11491A93C246996CBB9A1A@Bud>

The publisher, Thomas Nelson, is a religious book publisher..
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Belfer" <colordog.1 at earthlink.net>
To: <BillDentin at aol.com>
Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...


> http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel-DVD-2007_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ62333947
>
>
> http://product.half.ebay.com/Flywheel_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ64427678
>
>
>
> ~Steve
>
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:
>
> Amici...
>
> I've not watched it yet, but...
>
> My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw 
> this
> DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought
> it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin  (tsk) 
> wants
> to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does 
> business
> at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver,  he'll 
> do
> whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all  of 
> he
> relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But  as 
> Jay
> works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes 
> face
> to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to  assume
> this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the 
> moviemaking
> ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig 
> Ziglar,
> a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are
> interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there. 
> Produced by
> Sherwood Pictures.
>
> I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting
> too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax 
> video
> tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also
> found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to  get 
> some of
> them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good
> condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not  found 
> many in
> car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE
> compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these  days. 
> In
> addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and  heavier 
> than
> a car battery.  Great fun & memories.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Jan 30 12:38:25 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:38:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
In-Reply-To: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CD8ECC65628191-10A0-11B9A@webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com>

 independent film produced by church group.

it gained some traction in sales and went beyond 100,000, i believe.

not as compelling in story line as some but the message doesnt beat you up.

the cover shows the WHITE TR3A like mine and I bought it as a collectible.

joe a








-----Original Message-----
From: BillDentin at aol.com
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 11:27 am
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...


Amici...



I've not watched it yet, but...



My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw this

DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought

it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin (tsk) wants

to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does business

at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver, he'll do

whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all of he

relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But as Jay

works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes face

to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to assume

this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the moviemaking

ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig Ziglar,

a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are

interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there.  Produced

by

Sherwood Pictures.



I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting

too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax video

tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also

found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to get some
of

them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good

condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not found many

in

car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE

compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these days.  In

addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and heavier than

a car battery.  Great fun & memories.



Bill Dentinger

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From kaskas at cox.net  Sun Jan 30 12:38:56 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:38:56 -0800
Subject: [Fot] FOT Patches
In-Reply-To: <697A04AE-B399-4E6F-81FC-A96B4AA9E0E2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110130143856.28MDY.1016240.imail@fed1rmwml37>

Over your heart, of course.-


--- Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com> wrote: 

=============
Amici,
I have personally seen these patches. Quality looks good to me. Price is
excellent!  This is a great addition to your drivers suit! I can't wait to
finish my car and put the badge on the car and the patch on my suit.  Only
question I have is where do I put the patch on my suit?


Chris

On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:51 PM, "Barry Munson" <barry at penybryn.ca> wrote:

> Amici - I have received a small shipment of the FOT coat of arms
embroidered
> on an oval background patch, measuring 3 in. X 2 in.. These patches are
> identical to the badges that Chris is offering because they are based on
the
> art work and setup that he provided - thanks to Chris for agreeing to share
> this.
>
> To keep things as simple as possible ( for this kind of endeavour both in
> terms of volume, location and cost paypal will not work for me up here in
> Canada) any member who would like one (or more) of these patches simply put
> $5.00 (cash or cheque) for the first one and $3.00 for any additional ones
> into an envelope and send it to me at the following address:
>
>
>
> Barry Munson
>
> 52028 Range Road 224,
>
> Sherwood Park, Alberta,
>
> Canada
>
> T8C 1B7
>
>
>
> Include your return address and e-mail address and I will mail your patch
> the same day and send you an e-mail confirmation.
>
>
>
> The above costs are based on actual costs with absolutely no mark up or
> margin added as this is definitely not a commercial endeavour - the patches
> cost $3.00 each and mailing from here is approximately $2.00.
>
>
>
> As I have no idea what the demand may be I have kept the initial production
> run quite small so please bear with me if demand outstrips supply there may
> be a slight delay as another production run is ordered.
>
>
>
> If you have any questions please send me a note.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Barry.
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Never be beaten by equipment


From triumphs at consolidated.net  Sun Jan 30 12:52:04 2011
From: triumphs at consolidated.net (Ken Gano, home PC)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:52:04 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...
References: <169347.8d801ca.3a76f99e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FDA7C75C795147D7B58A453BE93EB7CD@0817C93C637E473>

Don't bother.  I got it from Netflix last year and could not even finish it. 
It was strictly right wing religious propaganda and had virtually nothing to 
do with cars.  A total waste of time and brain cells.

Gano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <BillDentin at aol.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH TR3A tangent in the movies...


> Amici...
>
> I've not watched it yet, but...
>
> My nephew was killing time in a shop in a Florida airport, when he saw 
> this
> DVD with a white Triumph TR3A on the cover.  He thought of me and bought
> it.  It is called FLYWHEEL.  The panel write up says, "Jay Austin (tsk) 
> wants
> to sell used cars in the worst way...and that's exactly how he does 
> business
> at his dealership.  Promising much more than he can ever deliver, he'll do
> whatever it takes to sell a car.  His manipulative ways permeate all of he
> relationships...even his wife and son know they can't trust him.  But as 
> Jay
> works on restoring a classic convertible (the TR3A, I assume) he comes 
> face
> to face with reality of how he truly conducts himself."  I have to assume
> this is a 'movie with a message' because it was produced by the 
> moviemaking
> ministry of a church in Georgia.  It has a favorable critique from Zig 
> Ziglar,
> a well known author and motivational speaker.  But for folks who are
> interested in such TRIUMPH related items, know that it is out there. 
> Produced by
> Sherwood Pictures.
>
> I am not sure when or if I'll get around to watching it.  #1 I'm getting
> too old to be motivated and #2 I just discovered several dozen Betamax 
> video
> tapes from the early 1980s in the back of a cupboard in my shop.  I also
> found an old Sanyo Betamax player/recorder.  Takes some fiddling to get 
> some of
> them to play, but once I get them playing, they are in remarkably good
> condition considering they're all 25-30 years old.  So far I've not found 
> many in
> car shots, but I know why.  The camera I took these tapes with was HUGE
> compared to the tiny hand held ones we mount on the roll bar these days. 
> In
> addition, I remember that the power pack (battery) was bigger and heavier 
> than
> a car battery.  Great fun & memories.
>
> Bill Dentinger
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From jsclark at live.ca  Sun Jan 30 17:26:46 2011
From: jsclark at live.ca (Jeff Clark)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:26:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Hello FOT
Message-ID: <BLU158-w320094BA7C1574C2E4D22AAEE20@phx.gbl>

Hello FOT
I was recently nominated by Mike Derweerd and seconded by Andre Rousseau both
fellow racers in VARAC. I live just outside Ottawa,Ontario,Canada .At 47 years
old I thought racing would be a good hobby. I bought a 1971 GT6 a couple of
years ago as an ex SCCA race car that originally raced at Watkins Glen. It was
advertised on Kijiji and looked pretty sad when I went to see it (I've
attached a before and after picture) but I bought it anyway.This is my first
experience with a Britsh car,my rides till the Triumph were either American
mussel (Chevelles) or Japanese cars (Celicas). I just received Kas Kastner's
books to see how I can make it better,but since last year was my first as a
novice driver I intend to make improvements slowly as the biggest limitation
will probably be the driver. Now for a question,the car is running with the
3:89 overdrive diff at present and I would like to find a 4:11. Can anyone
tell me if I can use the gear out of a Spitfire? Thanks
Jeff Clark

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[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg]


From Gt6steve at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 18:09:05 2011
From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:09:05 EST
Subject: [Fot] Hello FOT
Message-ID: <1ec10.2cbb7d30.3a7765b1@aol.com>

Yes and no Jeff,
 
Firstly welcome,
 
Andre has made you known to us already.
 
You can use the diff out of the 71 on Spittys, large output shafts.   The 
early cars had a smaller splined shaft but I have no idea what size it  was.  
Just smaller...;-))
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/2011 4:34:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jsclark at live.ca writes:

Hello  FOT
I was recently nominated by Mike Derweerd and seconded by Andre  Rousseau 
both
fellow racers in VARAC. I live just outside  Ottawa,Ontario,Canada .At 47 
years
old I thought racing would be a good  hobby. I bought a 1971 GT6 a couple of
years ago as an ex SCCA race car  that originally raced at Watkins Glen. It 
was
advertised on Kijiji and  looked pretty sad when I went to see it (I've
attached a before and after  picture) but I bought it anyway.This is my 
first
experience with a Britsh  car,my rides till the Triumph were either American
mussel (Chevelles) or  Japanese cars (Celicas). I just received Kas 
Kastner's
books to see how I  can make it better,but since last year was my first as a
novice driver I  intend to make improvements slowly as the biggest 
limitation
will probably  be the driver. Now for a question,the car is running with the
3:89  overdrive diff at present and I would like to find a 4:11. Can anyone
tell  me if I can use the gear out of a Spitfire? Thanks
Jeff  Clark

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type  image/pjpeg]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type  image/pjpeg]
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sun Jan 30 18:50:50 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:50:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <2036843479.1917423.1296436876346.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <364252897.1918691.1296438650510.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hello all,
I recently received a housing back from Southwick and have come up with a
question regarding this conversion and TR3s specifically. I think that Bob
sets the conversion to the stock TR3 length. I'm wondering if it's worth
keeping some extra length on the axle tubes for the TR3s. There is an issue
with where the weld is for the Ford flange and the U bolts. The weld has to be
ground to fit the bolts. Wouldn't it be worth leaving a little more length on
the axle tubes? Then no grinding of the weld would be needed. There really
isn't that much weld on there. I think that as little as 1/8" added on each
side would alleviate any grinding or most of it, but 1/4" would be great. It
looks like Southwick cuts at least 1/4" off before the old flange. Perhaps we
could leave that much on. I've read the related archives and found that there
have been TR3s with TR4 axle under them. So, fender clearance shouldn't be an
issue. Any thoughts or comments on this would be nice, although it's a little
late for me, others may benefit from the info. Obviously, Southwick would make
the change between themselves and Moser.
Thanks,
Dave H.


From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sun Jan 30 19:09:31 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:09:31 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
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References: <2036843479.1917423.1296436876346.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<364252897.1918691.1296438650510.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <012101cbc0eb$e66a8820$0301a8c0@randall>

> I've read the related archives and 
> found that there
> have been TR3s with TR4 axle under them. So, fender clearance 
> shouldn't be an issue.

My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with fender
clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest tires
I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually damage
the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
otherwise dead stock suspension.

The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a TR3
axle.

-- Randall  


From jaboruch at netzero.net  Sun Jan 30 19:27:21 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 02:27:21 GMT
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Message-ID: <20110130.212721.6855.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

Dave, I added 3/8 inch to each side of the TR4 axle housing and axle shafts
that I have under my TR3.  I, however, have big widened and flared fenders, so
clearance is not an issue for my car.  Sorry, but can't help you with what
will fit under stock TR3 fenders.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: davehogye <dlhogye at comcast.net>
To: Fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:50:50 +0000 (UTC)

Hello all,
I recently received a housing back from Southwick and have come up with a
question regarding this conversion and TR3s specifically. I think that Bob
sets the conversion to the stock TR3 length. I'm wondering if it's worth
keeping some extra length on the axle tubes for the TR3s. There is an issue
with where the weld is for the Ford flange and the U bolts. The weld has to
be
ground to fit the bolts. Wouldn't it be worth leaving a little more length on
the axle tubes? Then no grinding of the weld would be needed. There really
isn't that much weld on there. I think that as little as 1/8" added on each
side would alleviate any grinding or most of it, but 1/4" would be great. It
looks like Southwick cuts at least 1/4" off before the old flange. Perhaps we
could leave that much on. I've read the related archives and found that there
have been TR3s with TR4 axle under them. So, fender clearance shouldn't be an
issue. Any thoughts or comments on this would be nice, although it's a little
late for me, others may benefit from the info. Obviously, Southwick would
make
the change between themselves and Moser.
Thanks,
Dave H.
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From jfrymark at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 19:50:08 2011
From: jfrymark at aol.com (John Frymark)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:50:08 -0800
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 50, Issue 31
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References: <mailman.8330.1296439761.23296.fot@autox.team.net>
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Over your heart or anywhere else on your suit, best to use Nomex  
thread (and not polyester!) Good to have some if you need any mending,  
too.

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=NOMEXTHREAD

John Frymark

On Jan 30, 2011, at 6:09 PM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:38:56 -0800
> From: Kas Kastner <kaskas at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT Patches
> To: Barry Munson <barry at penybryn.ca>, Christopher Bock
> 	<SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
> Cc: "<fot at autox.team.net>" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Message-ID: <20110130143856.28MDY.1016240.imail at fed1rmwml37>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Over your heart, of course.-


From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 31 07:40:09 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:40:09 EST
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Message-ID: <35da6.57eac8a0.3a7823c9@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time, 
TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:


> My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with 
> fender
> clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest 
> tires
> I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually 
> damage
> the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> otherwise dead stock suspension.
> 
> The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a 
> TR3
> axle.
> 

I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders 
rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we 
probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body shop 
guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result.  
Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.

Bill Dentinger


From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net  Mon Jan 31 08:18:02 2011
From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:18:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <35da6.57eac8a0.3a7823c9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by Eastwood
works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for cracking
the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid cracking
as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
-Ed-

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:


From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM


In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:


> My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> fender
> clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> tires
> I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> damage
> the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> otherwise dead stock suspension.
>
> The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> TR3
> axle.
>

I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
shop
guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result. 
Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.

Bill Dentinger
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From bownes at seiri.com  Mon Jan 31 08:25:40 2011
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:25:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <35da6.57eac8a0.3a7823c9@aol.com>
	<670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNECTuA3mS=YPya5r19VC+JekXv-Oz6YGw5U4z@mail.gmail.com>

I seem to recall/have heard a few stories that Kas worked a few wonders with
fender 'manipulation' on a few of the cars over the years. :)


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM, EDWARD BARNARD
<edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>wrote:

> If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by
> Eastwood
> works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
> pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for
> cracking
> the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid
> cracking
> as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
> -Ed-
>
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
> To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM
>
>
> In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:
>
>
> > My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> > fender
> > clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> > tires
> > I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> > damage
> > the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> > otherwise dead stock suspension.
> >
> > The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> > TR3
> > axle.
> >
>
> I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
> rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
> probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
> shop
> guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result.
> Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From BillDentin at aol.com  Mon Jan 31 09:04:48 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:04:48 EST
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
Message-ID: <19e9cd.68d36cd5.3a7837a0@aol.com>

In a message dated 01/31/2011 9:25:44 AM Central Standard Time, 
bownes at seiri.com writes:


> I seem to recall/have heard a few stories that Kas worked a few wonders 
> with fender 'manipulation' on a few of the cars over the years. :)
> 
> 

That's exactly where I got the idea.  I was having trouble getting a set of 
vintage Goodyear Blue Streaks to fit on the car.  Originally, the rear 
tires were rubbing inside on the leaf springs; in spite of the fact that they 
have been 'carved out'..  Kas emailed me and asked if I was using wheel shims. 
 I told him that I had some, but couldn't use them because the tires would 
then rub on the outside.  He told me how to roll the fenders.  

Like I said...it worked slick.

Bill Dentinger


From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com  Mon Jan 31 09:32:12 2011
From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:32:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <670632.74330.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110131163212.ECCAB.35535.root@cdptpa-web17-z01>

If you look through the internet, there are folks that will rent it to you.

Bob
---- EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net> wrote: 
> If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by Eastwood
> works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
> pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for cracking
> the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid cracking
> as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
> -Ed-
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
> To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM
> 
> 
> In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:
> 
> 
> > My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> > fender
> > clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> > tires
> > I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> > damage
> > the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> > otherwise dead stock suspension.
> >
> > The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> > TR3
> > axle.
> >
> 
> I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
> rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
> probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
> shop
> guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result. 
> Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
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From kaskas at cox.net  Mon Jan 31 10:32:26 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 9:32:26 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimNECTuA3mS=YPya5r19VC+JekXv-Oz6YGw5U4z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110131123226.DLRWU.1037004.imail@fed1rmwml39>

On some occasions I have been known to roll a fender a little to clear some new type tires.  I  just used a round jack stand holding the shank part between the tire and the fender ,  pulling up and then just rolling the car and the tire carries the roll right along.  Three minutes and a whole new deal. The tip about warming the paint though is really a clever idea.
---- robert bownes <bownes at seiri.com> wrote: 

=============
I seem to recall/have heard a few stories that Kas worked a few wonders with
fender 'manipulation' on a few of the cars over the years. :)


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM, EDWARD BARNARD
<edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>wrote:

> If any of the group ever needs to roll fenders the roller offered by
> Eastwood
> works great. It bolts onto the hub and has adjustable arc and rolling
> pressure. You can easily  flare a fender, and, if you are worried for
> cracking
> the paint the deluxe kit has a heat gun to soften the paint and avoid
> cracking
> as you roll. A eighbor bought a set-up which he has allowed me to use.
> -Ed-
>
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: BillDentin at aol.com <BillDentin at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3s and the Southwick conversion
> To: TR3driver at ca.rr.com, Fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:40 AM
>
>
> In a message dated 01/30/2011 8:18:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> TR3driver at ca.rr.com writes:
>
>
> > My experience was that a TR4 axle under a TR3A led to problems with
> > fender
> > clearance.  Even with reshaping the fenders and running the skinniest
> > tires
> > I could find at the time, the tires rubbed hard enough to eventually
> > damage
> > the sidewalls.  Made a noticeable improvement in cornering though, on an
> > otherwise dead stock suspension.
> >
> > The tires I'm running on my TR3 now rub the fenders a little even with a
> > TR3
> > axle.
> >
>
> I had similar issues with my early TR3, and solved it by having the fenders
> rolled out with a small baseball bat.  It's a simple process that we
> probably could have done ourselves, but I chose to have it done by our body
> shop
> guy because I knew there would be some 'paint splitting' as the result.
> Worked slick, and I had some 'touch up' work done at the same time.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon Jan 31 12:11:18 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:11:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
Message-ID: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

It's good to get some feedback regarding adjusting fender clearance. 
It has been brought to my attention that track may be measured by some racing groups. 
Has anyone had their cars' track scrutinized? 
Tire and wheel size is related to the matter of clearance as well. I believe that TR3s should be to running 5.5" wheels max., but that depends on the race organization. 
What tire, wheel, spacer combinations are being used for TR3s? If spacers are being used, then maybe the axle could be lengthen a bit. 
Could the Southwick conversion for TR3s be lengthened by 1/4" overall? Is it worth going to the trouble of having the option from Southwick? 
Moser cuts and machines the axles, it seams to me that an 1/8" adjustment could be easily made. 
Again, 1/8" would really help the weld grinding situation. There really isn't that much weld on there when compared the the tube thickness. Perhaps no one has had a problem after removing some weld, but I thought this question was worth asking. If added length creates other problems, then it's probably not a good idea. 
Thanks for the commentary, 
Dave H. 


From N197TR4 at cs.com  Mon Jan 31 13:00:45 2011
From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:00:45 EST
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
Message-ID: <49a5b.2fc8a4d1.3a786eed@cs.com>

In a message dated 1/31/2011 1:47:47 PM Central Standard Time, 
dlhogye at comcast.net writes:


> Has anyone had their cars' track scrutinized?  NO.
> 

</HTML>


From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon Jan 31 13:19:33 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:19:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
In-Reply-To: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emer
	yville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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I've never had my track width measured.  The car has only been 
weighed once, and that was voluntary.

- Tony Drews

At 01:11 PM 1/31/2011, davehogye wrote:
>It's good to get some feedback regarding adjusting fender clearance.
>It has been brought to my attention that track may be measured by 
>some racing groups.
>Has anyone had their cars' track scrutinized?
>Tire and wheel size is related to the matter of clearance as well. I 
>believe that TR3s should be to running 5.5" wheels max., but that 
>depends on the race organization.
>What tire, wheel, spacer combinations are being used for TR3s? If 
>spacers are being used, then maybe the axle could be lengthen a bit.
>Could the Southwick conversion for TR3s be lengthened by 1/4" 
>overall? Is it worth going to the trouble of having the option from Southwick?
>Moser cuts and machines the axles, it seams to me that an 1/8" 
>adjustment could be easily made.
>Again, 1/8" would really help the weld grinding situation. There 
>really isn't that much weld on there when compared the the tube 
>thickness. Perhaps no one has had a problem after removing some 
>weld, but I thought this question was worth asking. If added length 
>creates other problems, then it's probably not a good idea.
>Thanks for the commentary,
>Dave H.
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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Mon Jan 31 14:25:04 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:25:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
In-Reply-To: <20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>
References: <312745366.1950765.1296501078095.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<20110131201933.B416A18765C@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <8adec41aabb55de453fee191a2d67aa2.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

I've had a car's track measured, but that was at the
SCCA Runoffs when I was crewing for a car that made
it to the podium (in third place).  We just barely made
it, too.

John

On Mon, January 31, 2011 3:19 pm, Tony Drews wrote:
> I've never had my track width measured.  The car has only been
> weighed once, and that was voluntary.
>
> - Tony Drews


From horizonracing at msn.com  Mon Jan 31 15:06:11 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:06:11 -0800
Subject: [Fot] TR3 and Southwick Conversion
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 Sovren has and Will check track, wheels size and weigh
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From JWoesvra at aol.com  Thu Jan 27 12:15:51 2011
From: JWoesvra at aol.com (JWoesvra at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:15:51 EST
Subject: [Fot] Vintage Race Rules Forum Invitation
Message-ID: <6773.2f8cbbac.3a731e67@aol.com>

The new Vintage Race Rules forum is open and in the testing stages. We have 
 signed over 150 users in the first few days and have some interesting  
dialogue going.
 
_http://www.vintageracerules.com/forums/_ 
(http://www.vintageracerules.com/forums/) 
 
Please check it out and sign up for a user name and try posting. Let us  
know what you think. 
 
The associated website is still under construction and should be on-line  
shortly. It will offer a lot of resources about period rules and regulations, 
 among other things.
 
When you sign in, we need you to put enough info in your profile so that we 
 can screen applicants, to avoid letting spammers in.
 
Report what you think.  It is work in progress.
 
Thanks, Jack and www (the wicked web wench) a.k.a. Barbie
 
Jack Woehrle