From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
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Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
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Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Mon Aug  1 20:18:46 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:18:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] mark 4, 1500 Spit tub
Message-ID: <78FB512C-BCB7-4178-83DB-4BBA9B88AAB0@aol.com>

Amici,
I have a spit tub for a Mark4 or 1500.  It needs new floors and battery box
which I have NEW replacements for.   It has primer over blue paint. No dents.
I have the doors and a trunk lid for it also.  Make me an offer.  I want to
get this thing out of my sight and out of the yard. It is in southern NJ but I
will be at Watkins Glen in October and can have it there.


Christopher Bock
www.SeaCubeCo.com
SeaCubeCo at aol.com
(609) 319-4322

From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Mon Aug  1 20:59:51 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 20:59:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 4 days to the next race with important TR4 oil pressure
 question
Message-ID: <20110802030342.3662718787A@autox.team.net>

Fot,

I just assembled a new motor and have a question about oil pressure & oil
viscosity.

I started with Brad Penn 30 wt break in oil and have a new Steve Yott oil
pump.

I ran in the cam yesterday for 20m, retorqued the head and took it out for
some run ups to 3K & eventually 4K.

About 15 minutes of run time. Oil pressure was right up at 75 -80. Before I
could record any notes I smelled oil burning

but it was just a displaced valve cover gasket. Fixed it.

Today I took the oil filter off and cut it open and there was a minor bit of
sparkle in the oil. I have been told a bit is normal.

I decided to give it an oil change and filter at this point. I changed to
Brad Penn 10-30,

On start up at 2000 it was at 75-80lbs. Over a period of 15 minutes running
up to 4K and back down and settling at a short cruise

of 2000 -  2500 the pressure worked it's way down to 50 lbs. I repeated
several times, it would always climb to 80 under throttle

but fall off again to 50 at a 2K rpm cruise. It dropped to 40 around a
corner but ran right up to 75- 80 under throttle.

I decided that was enough & parked it. I had my rod and main journals sized
to .003 clearance.

The big question is, with those clearance am I running enough viscosity ?

Thanks for the input as always

 

Jim G

From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Tue Aug  2 05:26:11 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 07:26:11 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Time to order FLAGS is running out!
References: <B0956C22-C2A0-4D06-9108-4B7E2F45FA8A@aol.com>
Message-ID: <594916CA-B667-41F0-94EF-F06E331BBB69@aol.com>

> Amici,
>
> Time to start ordering.
>
> Details
> 2x3foot size
> Logo is about 16 inches high
> 2 grommets
> Indoor outdoor use
> Material is great quality
> I have a proof picture if your interested in seeing it.
>
> I made the decision to go single sided. This means the words will be
reversed on the back.
>
> Price is $15 each. Shipping is included.
>
> Deadline to order is august 8, 2011.  I will place the order then and they
should be sent out to you by mid September.
>
> Payments to paypal (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) or check to
> Chris Bock
> 3630 Italia Ave
> Vineland, NJ
> 08361
>
> Chris
>
> PS Badges are still available

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug  2 09:06:25 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
Message-ID: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

Alert:

Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning the
next day.

Greg, Henry, Walt?  Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?

Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.

Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.

May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......

319.464.4711   cell

Thanks!

Joe A.

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug  2 10:08:39 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:08:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
In-Reply-To: <3E154EF053E546EB892ADCF2B1EF9DCC@sarako>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<3E154EF053E546EB892ADCF2B1EF9DCC@sarako>
Message-ID: <8CE1F4593627B2E-15D4-36E9@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

very cool!

i wonder if i can extend the trip a day.....hmmmm

who will be racing?

thanks for the information!






-----Original Message-----
From: michael a kowalski <sm1ski at dslextreme.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>; n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 10:56 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


too bad, starting friday afternoon will be a racing event at Sandia
Motorsports continuing the rest of the weekend---includes a number of
triumphs.

mike kowalski
1500 spit, FP
----- Original Message -----
From: <n197tr4 at cs.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
> the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt?  Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711   cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Aug  2 10:20:24 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:20:24 -0600
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
In-Reply-To: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>

Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug  2 11:03:46 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:03:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

Thanks Henry!

I will have RV....I may be looking for 110 outlet if it is hot New Mexico
nights.

Will stay Friday night if co-pilot can stay.

Would like to join 'TR Drivers Extraordinaire'.

Got to see some TR FOLKS at PVGP with Irv.  But missed Snook.

Hope TR4 #197 will be at Hastings for RMVR/HVR event Labor Day Weekend.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------

BTW, we got a totally rebuilt DISTRIBUTOR back from ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS.

It was taylor tuned to Tilden Cam, and Compression, etc.  Included is matching
Coil.

We were overlooking the need to do this until coil failed at Blackhawk Farms.

Quality work is apparent and thoughtful, as we expected.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Wed Aug  3 06:33:30 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 06:33:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
In-Reply-To: <8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>,
	<8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W28E09B7EBA0F65D7CA2EF903A0@phx.gbl>

I'll do my best to hit Albuquerque by 5 pm Thursday, on Friday there is a
group that wants to go to the Casino and hit the Seafood Buffet, or I will
hang out at the track and cook something there for those who show
up................Cheers Henry



To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: New Mexico FOT Travel AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:03:46 -0400


Thanks Henry!

I will have RV....I may be looking for 110 outlet if it is hot New Mexico
nights.

Will stay Friday night if co-pilot can stay.

Would like to join 'TR Drivers Extraordinaire'.

Got to see some TR FOLKS at PVGP with Irv.  But missed Snook.

Hope TR4 #197 will be at Hastings for RMVR/HVR event Labor Day Weekend.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------

BTW, we got a totally rebuilt DISTRIBUTOR back from ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS.

It was taylor tuned to Tilden Cam, and Compression, etc.  Included is matching
Coil.

We were overlooking the need to do this until coil failed at Blackhawk Farms.

Quality work is apparent and thoughtful, as we expected.

Joe A





-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel





Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  3 13:41:24 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:41:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <1312400484.20994.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would like to nominate Rich Johnson to this esteemed group.

He races a
FP/HP Spitfire, usually at Waterford Hills.

I'll let him introduce himself.
Thanks,

Doug

From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  3 13:43:27 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:43:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire For Sale
Message-ID: <1312400607.54618.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Amici,

Orval Turley has decided to sell his FP (I think) Spitfire.

I don't
have any other details, so please contact Orval
directly at oturley1 at aol.com.
Doug

From gaf3 at charter.net  Wed Aug  3 16:21:34 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:21:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Head Milling Recomendations
Message-ID: <4E39C9EE.9030905@charter.net>

Group
I have been rebuilding a number of TR6 engines this summer, most have 
been stock with overbores.
The latest wants  to raise compression up to ~ 9.5:1 . He already has a 
mild cam.
I believe this has been a past thread but I can't seem to find it.
About how much in thousands would you go for that 9.5:1 compression ratio.
I did this a few years ago but can't remember how much I took off.
He is also looking for improved streetable performance.
I recommended the shaved head, raising compression and an improvement in 
carburetion such as new SU's
The car is a 74 with the dual exhaust ( new stainless ) so no headers on 
this one. He already has a mild cam but I'm starting with one of my 
donor engines since his crank and block are wiped out due to the dreaded 
thrust bearing problem ( did a full circle thrust bearing on this 
earliear but the crank is too rough ).
Suggestions??
Thanks in Advance
Glenn Franco
Too Many TR's
They Keep Multiplying

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug  3 20:10:17 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 22:10:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W28E09B7EBA0F65D7CA2EF903A0@phx.gbl>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com><SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>,
	<8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<SNT134-W28E09B7EBA0F65D7CA2EF903A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE2062C9E7187B-1834-F0B9@webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com>

Brendan and I will be nearby on Friday

Is there a place to plug in Class B RV?

Or we have genset.

Will arrive in ALBUQUERQUE Thursday afternoon.

Should conclude business at that time.

We are in DODGE CITY and getting out of it in the morning.

Joe






-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 7:33 am
Subject: RE: New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS



I'll do my best to hit Albuquerque by 5 pm Thursday, on Friday there is a
group that wants to go to the Casino and hit the Seafood Buffet, or I will
hang out at the track and cook something there for those who show
up................Cheers Henry


To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: New Mexico FOT Travel AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:03:46 -0400


Thanks Henry!

I will have RV....I may be looking for 110 outlet if it is hot New Mexico
nights.

Will stay Friday night if co-pilot can stay.

Would like to join 'TR Drivers Extraordinaire'.

Got to see some TR FOLKS at PVGP with Irv.  But missed Snook.

Hope TR4 #197 will be at Hastings for RMVR/HVR event Labor Day Weekend.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------

BTW, we got a totally rebuilt DISTRIBUTOR back from ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS.

It was taylor tuned to Tilden Cam, and Compression, etc.  Included is matching
Coil.

We were overlooking the need to do this until coil failed at Blackhawk Farms.

Quality work is apparent and thoughtful, as we expected.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From stlnyc at msn.com  Wed Aug  3 21:24:10 2011
From: stlnyc at msn.com (Fred & Mary Hodgson)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:24:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] FW: Save the Bonneville Salt Flats!
In-Reply-To: <SNT109-DS16FD5369FA8E1E93F10B1BAA3A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT109-DS16FD5369FA8E1E93F10B1BAA3A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W1032E2FEFB595F76CF186EDA3D0@phx.gbl>

Amici-

Thought I'd pass this on for those who might be interested.

Fred Hodgson


















Send Your Letter Supporting the Salt Flats



















Dear Fellow Enthusiast,

Once again, Summit Racing Equipment is reaching out to motorsports enthusiasts
- helping to raise awareness and seeking your support on the issues affecting
our industry, hobby, and passion.

Below is a letter addressed to the Bureau of Land Management asking for its
immediate support in stopping the destruction of the Bonneville Salt Flats in
Utah - a site of immense historic value where land speed records have been
attempted, and set. Originally 96,000 acres, the Salt Flats have shrunk to
just 30,000 acres because of unchecked potash mining operations who have
failed to replace the salt they've destroyed.

We ask that you take the time to either write your own letter, or copy the one
below into an email, to help our government leaders understand the historic
and intrinsic value of the Salt Flats, and of their responsibility to help
preserve them. Please consider sending or emailing the following letter to the
Bureau of Land Management:












To: The Honorable Robert Abbey
Director, Bureau of Land Management
U.S. Department of the Interior

As a long-time automotive and motorsports enthusiast, I was particularly
troubled to learn about what appears to be the deliberate destruction of
Utah's Bonneville Salt Flats by potash mining operations.

The Bonneville Salt Flats are a national treasure, and have been an integral
part of the American motorsports scene dating back to the first record land
speed attempt there in 1914. The Salt Flats are a "National Landmark" and an
"Area of Critical Environmental Concern"  both of which are designations that
should trigger the Bureau of Land Management's immediate involvement.

Originally 96,000 acres, the Salt Flats are now a mere 30,000 acres. It's a
travesty, and something has to be done. I ask that you do everything in your
power to mitigate the damage being inflicted on the Salt Flats, including:


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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug  4 02:10:14 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:10:14 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Video - Race 1 at Oschersleben/Ger
In-Reply-To: <3FD0B9F48A3248BAAE8700BF80798137@gdhs.local>
References: <000901cc4ba2$cad2a790$6077f6b0$@com>
	<3FD0B9F48A3248BAAE8700BF80798137@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <001f01cc527d$f20e6100$d62b2300$@com>

This is an outside view and it starts at about 16min:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKx_uYWcFY

 

Cheers

Chris

From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Aug  4 10:24:19 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:24:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
Message-ID: <F5DCF4800C06461693267BCB06CE8357@Charly>

6 cylinder head info
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
> out.   Sorry.
>
> mjb.
>
>
>
> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>
>
> GT6 Mk I        9.50
> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
> (early)
> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
> (late)
> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>
>
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Aug  4 10:26:02 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:26:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
Message-ID: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>

More 6 cylinder head info
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


>
> Hi Charly,
>
> I won't comment on cwe right now...
>
> Regarding head thickness, Richard Good has a pretty good table on his web 
> site (www.goodparts.com) that can be used as a guideline, but keep in mind 
> that production of TR6 heads is far from perfect (owing to multiple 
> foundries and some other details), so the actual volume of the combustion 
> chambers can vary a few cc's here and there.
>
> The late heads (73 and later) for US federal emmision specs were cast / 
> finished at over 3.550 thickness to get the 7.75:1 compression ratio. YOu 
> have to mill a crap load of metal off those heads to get resonable 
> compression gain.
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> rml
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

From bownes at seiri.com  Thu Aug  4 10:48:03 2011
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:48:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
In-Reply-To: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>
References: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOQDUE1FKNUUqz5CkwH+tuhB3J6OX+mapMLtt=5hf3T-CQ@mail.gmail.com>

And I can personally attest to having taken 0.250" (yes 1/4") off of one.

I think the next one I do will be a bit less radical. :) and yes, I'm still
looking for a late head.

Bob

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Charly Mitchel
<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>wrote:

> More 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:17 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>
>> Hi Charly,
>>
>> I won't comment on cwe right now...
>>
>> Regarding head thickness, Richard Good has a pretty good table on his web
>> site (www.goodparts.com) that can be used as a guideline, but keep in
>> mind that production of TR6 heads is far from perfect (owing to multiple
>> foundries and some other details), so the actual volume of the combustion
>> chambers can vary a few cc's here and there.
>>
>> The late heads (73 and later) for US federal emmision specs were cast /
>> finished at over 3.550 thickness to get the 7.75:1 compression ratio. YOu
>> have to mill a crap load of metal off those heads to get resonable
>> compression gain.
>>
>> I hope this helps!
>>
>> rml
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
>> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
>> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>>
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From jsnook at wcnet.org  Thu Aug  4 12:11:17 2011
From: jsnook at wcnet.org (Jeff Snook)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:11:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Vintage Car Shop Near Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <00dc01cc52d1$e835bc60$b8a13520$@org>

Hi all,

We have a customer with an MGB street car that is moving to Alexandria, VA,
and is looking for a shop to store his car, and also to do minor maintenance
if needed while in their care.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

Jeff Snook
http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
419-344-0319 (Mobile)

From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  4 13:09:38 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:09:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
Message-ID: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters will
work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys run
for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of negative
camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
hoping to change that.  
 
Looking for feedback.
 
thanks!!!

Mike Mehl #46
TR4

From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu Aug  4 13:29:18 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:29:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOQDUE1FKNUUqz5CkwH+tuhB3J6OX+mapMLtt=5hf3T-CQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>
	<CAJ1+nOQDUE1FKNUUqz5CkwH+tuhB3J6OX+mapMLtt=5hf3T-CQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DBB9@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I had to mill 0.272" off of a TR6 head that had been put on my GT6
engine by some GDPO.  Worked fine - still working fine, in fact.  That
took the GT6 motor from 6.2:1 compression to 9.5:1.  Much improved!

Scott B.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of robert bownes
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:48 AM
To: Charly Mitchel
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head

And I can personally attest to having taken 0.250" (yes 1/4") off of
one.

I think the next one I do will be a bit less radical. :) and yes, I'm
still
looking for a late head.

Bob

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Charly Mitchel
<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>wrote:

> More 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang"
<lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:17 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>
>> Hi Charly,
>>
>> I won't comment on cwe right now...
>>
>> Regarding head thickness, Richard Good has a pretty good table on his
web
>> site (www.goodparts.com) that can be used as a guideline, but keep in
>> mind that production of TR6 heads is far from perfect (owing to
multiple
>> foundries and some other details), so the actual volume of the
combustion
>> chambers can vary a few cc's here and there.
>>
>> The late heads (73 and later) for US federal emmision specs were cast
/
>> finished at over 3.550 thickness to get the 7.75:1 compression ratio.
YOu
>> have to mill a crap load of metal off those heads to get resonable
>> compression gain.
>>
>> I hope this helps!
>>
>> rml
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
>> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
>> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>>
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From billb at bnj.com  Thu Aug  4 14:05:55 2011
From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:05:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
In-Reply-To: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2F441E63-ECB0-45CB-A4B8-E94DBA342466@bnj.com>

Two to 2.5 is plenty for Speedsters, which seem to be a bit more like halfway
between radials (and certainly not slicks) and bias ply.
If your Triumph is faster than a well prepped rabbit you're doing well.

On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Mike Mehl wrote:

> I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters
will
> work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
> aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys
run
> for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
> have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of
negative
> camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
> Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
> hoping to change that.
>
> Looking for feedback.
>
> thanks!!!
>
> Mike Mehl #46
> TR4
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From mdhado at comcast.net  Thu Aug  4 15:13:11 2011
From: mdhado at comcast.net (M&M Hado)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:13:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
In-Reply-To: <F5DCF4800C06461693267BCB06CE8357@Charly>
Message-ID: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>

Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy info
when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also the
approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


6 cylinder head info
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
> out.   Sorry.
>
> mjb.
>
>
>
> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>
>
> GT6 Mk I        9.50
> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
> (early)
> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
> (late)
> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>
>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Thu Aug  4 21:14:16 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 22:14:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
In-Reply-To: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110805031531.42B61187897@autox.team.net>

Stock caster, very slight toe in, like 1/16", 2.5 degrees negative 
camber for me.  Very good turn in - I work on regulating oversteer 
not understeer.  The rear "traction links" and detroit locker may 
have something to do with that too.

Tony Drews

At 02:09 PM 8/4/2011, Mike Mehl wrote:
>I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters will
>work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
>aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys run
>for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
>have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of negative
>camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
>Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
>hoping to change that.
>
>Looking for feedback.
>
>thanks!!!
>
>Mike Mehl #46
>TR4
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 06:17:09 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:17:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
In-Reply-To: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
References: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com>

If anyone replies on this, please post it to the group or at least copy me on
it.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, M&M Hado wrote:

> Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy info
> when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also
the
> approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
> mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
> 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
>> out.   Sorry.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>>
>>
>> GT6 Mk I        9.50
>> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
>> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
>> (early)
>> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
>> (late)
>> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
>> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
>> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
>> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
>> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
>> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
>> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>>
>>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug  5 06:20:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:20:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
In-Reply-To: <14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com>
References: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
	<14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01cc536a$167de550$4379aff0$@com>

Just measured a head:

84.2 mm = 3.43"

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Duncan Charlton
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2011 14:17
An: M&M Hado
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info

If anyone replies on this, please post it to the group or at least copy me
on
it.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, M&M Hado wrote:

> Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy
info
> when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also
the
> approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
> mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
> 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
>> out.   Sorry.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>>
>>
>> GT6 Mk I        9.50
>> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
>> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
>> (early)
>> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
>> (late)
>> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
>> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
>> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
>> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
>> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
>> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
>> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>>
>>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug  5 09:09:09 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:09:09 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
References: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
	<14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <004701cc5381$a1ec5b50$e5c511f0$@com>

Sorry - wrong divisor:

Just measured a head:

84.2 mm = 3.31"

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Duncan Charlton
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2011 14:17
An: M&M Hado
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info

If anyone replies on this, please post it to the group or at least copy me
on
it.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, M&M Hado wrote:

> Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy
info
> when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also
the
> approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
> mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
> 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
>> out.   Sorry.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>>
>>
>> GT6 Mk I        9.50
>> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
>> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
>> (early)
>> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
>> (late)
>> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
>> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
>> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
>> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
>> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
>> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
>> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>>
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Fri Aug  5 09:31:03 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:31:03 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
In-Reply-To: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110805153503.C97D61878BB@autox.team.net>

Mike,
I have used up to 3.5 on the front with very neutral handling but it's tough
on tires. I'm going to 2.5 this weekend and compare to past lap times.
I may switch back to 3.5 if they drop off. I use 1/8" total toe out.
I use the standard trunions for the IRS car and I don't know what the caster
is, I do wish I had a bit more though.
Somebody said to me once, do you want to save your tires or win races, 
I lean more to the winning side.

Jim g

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Mehl
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: Triumph Friends of
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe

I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters
will
work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys run
for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of
negative
camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
hoping to change that.  
 
Looking for feedback.
 
thanks!!!

Mike Mehl #46
TR4
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  5 09:51:11 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:51:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
Message-ID: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and were
quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile group:
 
1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke the
center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It was
an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them
for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to
tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices
are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
 
2. 
Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota caliper
conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on my
street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
rules as well).
 
Thanks for your help!
 
Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader
RiffRAF
Racing

From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Fri Aug  5 09:59:46 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Digital inspection camera
Message-ID: <1312559986.38597.YahooMailRC@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Is anyone using one of those digital inspection cameras to any great advantage
now that Harbor Freight has the price down to around $80?  Jim in Folsom, CA

From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Fri Aug  5 10:32:00 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:32:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi, I got a set of Rota wheels. Panasport knockoffs, made in the 
Philippines. I use them for rain/transport use. they are light and true.
$500 a set shipped.
Brakes: I use stock calipers with slotted rotors; they seem to work well. 
Also Porterfield pads and linings; worth the money. I also put on 7/8" rear 
wheel cylinders for more rear brakes.
Good job on the Chump Car thing!
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
> please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and 
> were
> quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile 
> group:
>
> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke 
> the
> center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It 
> was
> an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
> inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
> Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from 
> them
> for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes 
> to
> tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our 
> choices
> are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works 
> out
> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
> 2.
> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota 
> caliper
> conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on 
> my
> street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
> price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
> rules as well).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF
> Racing
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Aug  5 10:40:39 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:40:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
In-Reply-To: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FB85@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

I don't know the ChumpCar rules but Lemon's would have given us a tough time
buying new wheels under the "safety" exemption. I bought a set of old aluminum
race wheels from Sam Halkias for the Lemon's TR6 and they work great. They are
15X7 and we have 205-50-15 Falken Azenis  on them. Can you run 7" rims? The
Koenig Rewinds are cheap but have too much back space. If you do
longer/stronger studs and use a spacer they would be perfect. I bought 2 sets
a couple of years ago at $108.00 a rim from Discount Tire.

Our TR6 has lousy brakes too. It may be the booster and the fact that it is
all stock.  I'm thinking of switching it to what I have in my racecar TR4A. I
have dual 5/8" Wilwood Girling style master cylinders with a balance  bar on a
TR4 style bracket modified for the dual cylinders. The 5/8 cylinders can be
purchase for $50 each from Speedway motors, and you can copy the Racetorations
design using a TR4A pedal assembly.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Jamie Palmer
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:51 AM
To: Friends of Triumph
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6

For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and were
quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile group:

1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke the
center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It was
an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them
for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to
tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices
are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!

2.
Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota caliper
conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on my
street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
rules as well).

Thanks for your help!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader
RiffRAF
Racing
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Aug  5 10:47:51 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:47:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
In-Reply-To: <9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

I have been afraid to use better brake pads on the TR6. I should try a set but
I suspect we would wear race pads out before the day ends. There may be a good
endurance race pad out there but the Hawk Blues that stop my TR4A so
effectively wear pretty quickly and they aren't cheap.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of william r tobin
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:32 AM
To: Jamie Palmer; Friends of Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6

Hi, I got a set of Rota wheels. Panasport knockoffs, made in the Philippines.
I use them for rain/transport use. they are light and true.
$500 a set shipped.
Brakes: I use stock calipers with slotted rotors; they seem to work well.
Also Porterfield pads and linings; worth the money. I also put on 7/8" rear
wheel cylinders for more rear brakes.
Good job on the Chump Car thing!
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6
> ChumpCar, please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR
> 24 hrs. and were quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions
> for this erstwhile
> group:
>
> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen)
> broke the center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been
> using.  It was an...interesting...experience (I was driving).
> So...I've looked at inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is
> ChumpCar) and it looks like Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to
> go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them for a TR before?  Offset/width
> recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to tires, we're limited to
> 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices are quite
> limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
> 2.
> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota
> caliper conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the
> conversion on my street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or
> similar are out of our price range (and would probably violate the 2
> times stock pricing ChumpCar rules as well).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF
> Racing
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Aug  5 11:05:43 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:05:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
In-Reply-To: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110805170602.C9684187656@autox.team.net>

I am using the Toyota caliper in a race application.  There's a 
little more area under the pad than stock, but I'm not sure it's a 
huge improvement.  Makes it easier to find calipers and brake pads though.

I also built a Racestoration knockoff dual circuit setup.

Tony Drews

At 10:51 AM 8/5/2011, Jamie Palmer wrote:
>For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
>please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and were
>quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile group:
>
>1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke the
>center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It was
>an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
>inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
>Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them
>for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to
>tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices
>are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
>about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
>2.
>Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota caliper
>conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on my
>street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
>price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
>rules as well).
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Jamie Palmer
>Squadron Leader
>RiffRAF
>Racing
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug  5 11:11:42 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:11:42 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
In-Reply-To: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <008501cc5392$c1614610$4423d230$@com>

I use EBC yellow pads since 2004.
The brake, they last, they are cheap.
But they don't bite, they brake gentle which I enjoy most on wet tracks.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Kramer, Robert
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2011 18:48
An: william r tobin; Jamie Palmer; Friends of Triumph
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6

I have been afraid to use better brake pads on the TR6. I should try a set
but
I suspect we would wear race pads out before the day ends. There may be a
good
endurance race pad out there but the Hawk Blues that stop my TR4A so
effectively wear pretty quickly and they aren't cheap.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell

From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Fri Aug  5 11:47:54 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <703315B80B86467DB64D81CAF12FD81A@Charly>

Jamie.
Because of the rules of my race organization, I can't changed my calipers
and have to maintain the stock configuration.  I use EBC Green stuff pads
and I'm very happy with them.  I tried the Hawkspads and wasn't as happy
with those.  I also use the copper cooling wings as described by Mad Marx
Christian on them.  I don't run the long races like you do, but I stand on
them a lot harder than you do.
Charly Mitchel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 8:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
> please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and 
> were
> quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile 
> group:
>
> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke 
> the
> center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It 
> was
> an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
> inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
> Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from 
> them
> for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes 
> to
> tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our 
> choices
> are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works 
> out
> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
> 2.
> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota 
> caliper
> conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on 
> my
> street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
> price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
> rules as well).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF
> Racing
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Fri Aug  5 11:56:01 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:56:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <A9A32B20521946C9A1861166B580AEAB@Charly>

Oh yeah, also think about stiffening up the front spindles.
Charly Mitchel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kramer, Robert" <RKramer at rdoequipment.com>
To: "william r tobin" <william.tobin31 at verizon.net>; "Jamie Palmer" 
<tr6driver at yahoo.com>; "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


>I have been afraid to use better brake pads on the TR6. I should try a set 
>but
> I suspect we would wear race pads out before the day ends. There may be a 
> good
> endurance race pad out there but the Hawk Blues that stop my TR4A so
> effectively wear pretty quickly and they aren't cheap.
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf
> Of william r tobin
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:32 AM
> To: Jamie Palmer; Friends of Triumph
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
>
> Hi, I got a set of Rota wheels. Panasport knockoffs, made in the 
> Philippines.
> I use them for rain/transport use. they are light and true.
> $500 a set shipped.
> Brakes: I use stock calipers with slotted rotors; they seem to work well.
> Also Porterfield pads and linings; worth the money. I also put on 7/8" 
> rear
> wheel cylinders for more rear brakes.
> Good job on the Chump Car thing!
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
> To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
>
>
>> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6
>> ChumpCar, please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR
>> 24 hrs. and were quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions
>> for this erstwhile
>> group:
>>
>> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen)
>> broke the center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been
>> using.  It was an...interesting...experience (I was driving).
>> So...I've looked at inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is
>> ChumpCar) and it looks like Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to
>> go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them for a TR before?  Offset/width
>> recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to tires, we're limited to
>> 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices are quite
>> limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
>> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>>
>> 2.
>> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota
>> caliper conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the
>> conversion on my street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or
>> similar are out of our price range (and would probably violate the 2
>> times stock pricing ChumpCar rules as well).
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Jamie Palmer
>> Squadron Leader
>> RiffRAF
>> Racing

From rjohns at woh.rr.com  Fri Aug  5 16:57:16 2011
From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:57:16 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Message to Jeff Snook
Message-ID: <10EC3D07DED94918905F6C8825C15DC7@Bucktailus>

 Contact Bob Johns off line.  419-619-1208

From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Aug  6 10:22:40 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:22:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Deadline is MONDAY for flags!
References: <1312400789.15162.YahooMailRC@web80803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <41447633-DFAB-4613-821C-8B34D1779C20@aol.com>

August 8 is MONDAY.  


>> Amici,
>> 
>> Time to start ordering.
>> 
>> Details
>> 2x3foot size
>> Logo is about 16 inches high
>> 2 grommets
>> Indoor outdoor use
>> Material is great quality
>> I have a proof picture if your interested in seeing it.
>> 
>> I made the decision to go single sided. This means the words will be
> reversed on the back.
>> 
>> Price is $15 each. Shipping is included.
>> 
>> Deadline to order is august 8, 2011.  I will place the order then and they
> should be sent out to you by mid September.
>> 
>> Payments to paypal (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) or check to
>> Chris Bock
>> 3630 Italia Ave
>> Vineland, NJ
>> 08361
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> PS Badges are still available

From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Sat Aug  6 20:16:06 2011
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 12:16:06 +1000
Subject: [Fot] 6cyl head
Message-ID: <CA+UW8b3AcKNcXTjHznKPJwr2QbqsP9DcPCmto1dh2a1eXttrzw@mail.gmail.com>

i'm really surprised what you did has lasted. they are different castings
and the face of the head gets very thin when you do this. i did one years
ago as a trial, and we could not hold head gaskets as the thickness of metal
between the gasket face and the cooling jacket was reduced too far (by 1/4")
Terry

From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net  Sun Aug  7 15:23:50 2011
From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:23:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Alternator help
Message-ID: <1312752230.50804.YahooMailClassic@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 8/4/11, EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net> wrote:


From: EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>
Subject: Alternator help
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 9:31 PM







Group: Last month someone was having a problem with their one wire Denso
alternator not charging above 12.5 volts or so. I don't remember what the fix
was. My son has put one on his '70 Datsun P/U ratrod and at every rpm it only
puts out 12.5-12.7 volts off the output terminal. I hate to tell him to start
jumping any of the other terminals for fear he'll ruin a brand new alternator.
Can someone please jog my memory on the conclusion of the previous similar
issue?
Thank you in advance - Ed 

From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Aug  7 20:28:21 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:28:21 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Stolen race car alert
Message-ID: <1B17B838913A49DB8DF7ABE5E6B8C5D4@Bud>

  Pablo Gonzalezbs Stanguellini Fjr. serial number #S00196, #80 Blue with a
yellow stripe was stolen last nite in San Antonio Texas.



  Here is a picture of the car.

  .

  Please pass this email on to anyone you know may be offered the car. I am
sure Pablo would be very thankful of any information.



  Here is Pablobs email address: pgs at uniexcel.com

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg]

From norlinengineering at comcast.net  Sun Aug  7 22:06:50 2011
From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Jim Norlin)
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:06:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Gearbox woes and trash talk
Message-ID: <4E3F60DA.3010704@comcast.net>

So we had a good weekend with the Spitfire until the gearbox croaked.  
Patty's turn to drive and she did a great job, finishing 3rd in class on 
Saturday out of 9 cars.  Her qualifying time this morning was less than 
a second off my best time at the Portland Historic Races last month.    
She was racing for the class lead this afternoon when the gearbox packed 
it in - stuck in 2nd gear.

We're running a modified GT 6 gearbox.  She caught 2nd for one of the 
slower corners and then could  not find either 3rd or 4th.  She was able 
to get 2nd, but we can't move the lever at all anymore.  I'm not sure if 
it's a problem with the selector forks/shafts or if the clip holding all 
the gears on the output shaft came off.  I'm heading off on a business 
trip in the morning and won't be able to look at the car until next 
weekend.  Anyone got any idea of what I might have to be dealing with?

Now for the trash talk.  Patty had an incredible run with a MIdget in 
Qualifying this morning and they were nose to tail in the race until the 
gearbox failed.  After the race in impound, the Midget driver told Patty 
something like - if you had 5 more horsepower, we'd have a great race.  
She got all over him and responded - "If I had five more horsepower, I'd 
leave you in my dust".  His response to the crowd around them was "This 
is what I like about vintage racing - being trash talked by a grandma!" -lol

Got 3 weeks to get things fixed before my last race of the season.

From jhouathome at aol.com  Mon Aug  8 13:52:48 2011
From: jhouathome at aol.com (jhouathome at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:52:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
Message-ID: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>

Anyone have a set of Weber 40's or 45's for sale?  I have the manifold,
gaskets and linkage in place on a set of Dell Ortos that I can't make work, so
I just need the carbs.  These are for the Kellison bodied TR4.  Looks great,
won't run.  Story of my life with racecars!
Thanks,
John Houlton

From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Mon Aug  8 14:57:41 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:57:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
In-Reply-To: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5357D27586@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

http://www.piercemanifolds.com/


Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of jhouathome at aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:53 PM
To: FOT at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?

Anyone have a set of Weber 40's or 45's for sale?  I have the manifold,
gaskets and linkage in place on a set of Dell Ortos that I can't make work, so
I just need the carbs.  These are for the Kellison bodied TR4.  Looks great,
won't run.  Story of my life with racecars!
Thanks,
John Houlton
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From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Aug  8 15:32:41 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 14:32:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
References: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5357D27586@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <99831C7334434BC6A784D5B6010EA62B@Bud>

The Pierce manifold people are terrific to deal with.
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kramer, Robert" <RKramer at rdoequipment.com>
To: <jhouathome at aol.com>; <FOT at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?


> http://www.piercemanifolds.com/
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf
> Of jhouathome at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:53 PM
> To: FOT at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
>
> Anyone have a set of Weber 40's or 45's for sale?  I have the manifold,
> gaskets and linkage in place on a set of Dell Ortos that I can't make 
> work, so
> I just need the carbs.  These are for the Kellison bodied TR4.  Looks 
> great,
> won't run.  Story of my life with racecars!
> Thanks,
> John Houlton
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From 1964spitfire at pacbell.net  Mon Aug  8 17:52:52 2011
From: 1964spitfire at pacbell.net (Tim Pettenati)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:52:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spotted on craigslist - 1965 Triumph TR4 - $1250 (concord /
 pleasant hill / martinez) California
Message-ID: <1312847572.79024.YahooMailRC@web180316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Listed as a project car.  Photo doesn't look too far gone.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2534545789.html

NFI

Cheers,
Tim

From REK46 at aol.com  Tue Aug  9 10:56:34 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:56:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
Message-ID: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris 
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years 
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more 
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished 
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and has  
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic 
collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic 
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of 
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his email 
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can 
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.

From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM  Tue Aug  9 11:15:44 2011
From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:15:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
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References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8FB73F358B91FE42A41727280DFD98FA504A0682E9@STLEXVN01P.centene.com>

I would second

John C. Wiley

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Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic
collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  9 11:16:02 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:16:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
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Second! We need more SCCA guys!

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:56 AM, REK46 at aol.com wrote:

> I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris
> has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years
> than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more
> recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished
> 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has
> a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic
> collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic
> member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of
> experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email
> in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can
> get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46
Fprod.
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From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Aug  9 11:29:28 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <81B076ED10BD4ADF88D25DBC320BCDBE@Vista>

I'm surprised he has not been nominated before now.  I have been following
his SCCA exploits for a long time and would be proud to have him as a
member.

Joe C.

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Behalf Of REK46 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:57 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net; spitracer1296 at yahoo.com
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris 
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years 
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more 
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished 
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has  
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic

collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic 
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of 
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email 
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can 
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From riverside at southslope.net  Tue Aug  9 11:31:15 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:31:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
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An enthusiastic 2nd!

art de armond

-----Original Message----- 
From: REK46 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:56 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net ; spitracer1296 at yahoo.com
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and 
has
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic
collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his 
email
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Aug  9 11:31:06 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:31:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004e01cc56ba$1f15f420$5d41dc60$@rr.com>

2nd !!
Welcome.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of REK46 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:57 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net; spitracer1296 at yahoo.com
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris 
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years 
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more 
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished 
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has  
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic

collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic 
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of 
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email 
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can 
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue Aug  9 11:34:25 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:34:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
Message-ID: <25840618.728162.1312911265765.JavaMail.alfetta95@mail.srv.lgcyny1.cv.net>

I second.

Welcome Chris!


On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, REK46 at aol.com wrote:

> I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris 
> Crisenberry...Chris has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA 
> Spitfire  racer for more years than he wanted me to mention...He has 
> raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a 
> very successful   record having finished 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at 
> the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and has  a great 
> 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic 
> collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a 
> fantastic member to have on board and can certainly contribute a 
> "vast" amount of experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing 
> prep,etc...I  have copied his email in and if any further info is 
> needed,please let me  know....I hope we can get some 'seconds' to 
> welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  9 13:36:06 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:36:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Another Nomination
Message-ID: <1312918566.70488.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This must have fallen through the cracks.


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Doug Mitchell <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Cc: busterwcr at aol.com
Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011 3:41:24 PM
Subject: Nomination

I would like to nominate Rich Johnson to this esteemed group.

He races a FP/HP Spitfire, usually at Waterford Hills and in SCCA.

Thanks,

Doug

From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  9 13:37:17 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:37:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Spitfire For Sale
Message-ID: <1312918637.26062.YahooMailRC@web80806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Another post that got lost somewhere between my account and the list.



-----
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From: Doug Mitchell <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011 3:43:27 PM
Subject: Spitfire For
Sale

Amici,

Orval Turley has decided to sell his FP (I think) Spitfire.
I don't have any other details, so please contact Orval
directly at
oturley1 at aol.com.

Doug

From REK46 at aol.com  Tue Aug  9 14:06:37 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Another Nomination
Message-ID: <1ed2f.48fb5bf6.3b72ed4d@aol.com>

I know Rich...a good guy...I'll second it....Rick
 
 
In a message dated 8/9/2011 3:55:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
dmitchel at sbcglobal.net writes:

This  must have fallen through the cracks.


----- Forwarded Message  ----
From: Doug Mitchell <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>
To:  fot at autox.team.net
Cc: busterwcr at aol.com
Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011  3:41:24 PM
Subject: Nomination

I would like to nominate Rich Johnson  to this esteemed group.

He races a FP/HP Spitfire, usually at Waterford  Hills and in  SCCA.

Thanks,

Doug
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From donmarshall at nefcom.net  Tue Aug  9 14:55:21 2011
From: donmarshall at nefcom.net (Don Marshall)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:55:21 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Looking for Hoosier 185.60-13s
Message-ID: <op.vzysejx2airs7i@don-pc.belkin>

I'm still prepping my "new" Spit for the VDCA event at Roebling Road next  
month and I need tires.  The car is being converted from SCCA on slicks  
and doesn't appear to have enough clearance for the Hoosier Street TD A70s  
(205.60-13).  Does anyone have a set of usable 185.60-13s they would be  
willing to part with?  These are roughly the same diameter as the slicks  
so I think they'll fit OK but I don't want to spring for a new set until  
I'm sure.  I may also be looking for a set of wheels if anyone has extras  
they want to talk about.  Thanks, Don

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Aug 10 03:25:51 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:25:51 +0200
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com>

Hi Guys,

I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late that
one wheel is a 5.5" one.
He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.

Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?

Cheers
Chris

From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 10 09:51:48 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:51:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for Hoosier 185.60-13s
In-Reply-To: <op.vzysejx2airs7i@don-pc.belkin>
References: <op.vzysejx2airs7i@don-pc.belkin>
Message-ID: <D44CFB1F-46E4-4A1A-8E41-728C1596C97B@earthlink.net>

Call JB racing tires for USED still good racing tires.  NFI

http://www.jbracingtires.net/

~Steve




On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Don Marshall wrote:

I'm still prepping my "new" Spit for the VDCA event at Roebling Road  
next
month and I need tires.  The car is being converted from SCCA on slicks
and doesn't appear to have enough clearance for the Hoosier Street TD  
A70s
(205.60-13).  Does anyone have a set of usable 185.60-13s they would be
willing to part with?  These are roughly the same diameter as the slicks
so I think they'll fit OK but I don't want to spring for a new set until
I'm sure.  I may also be looking for a set of wheels if anyone has  
extras
they want to talk about.  Thanks, Don
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Aug 10 16:13:46 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:13:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
Message-ID: <77134084.365638.1313014426443.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

FoT 

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the bolts 

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them. 

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping 

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod 

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances. 

Thanks as always, 

jim g 

From jsiam1 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 10 21:01:25 2011
From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (jsiam1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:01:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Seal saver
Message-ID: <644203231-1313031685-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1788578409-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry>

Hi I'm looking for a seal saver for the back of a spitfire crank.  Anyone have a source?  Thanks. Joe
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From jaboruch at netzero.net  Wed Aug 10 21:06:43 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:06:43 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Pocono SCCA National
Message-ID: <20110810.230643.14686.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Any FOTers going to be at the Pocono SCCA National?  I will be there with my
TR3.  Joe(B)

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 11 07:17:22 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:17:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY
Message-ID: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>

Mark your calendars and make your plans:


APRIL  2012

10TH RUNNING OF THE KASTNER CUP

Road Atlanta

Kas Kastner is the GRAND MARSHALL of this HSR event known as

THE MITTY

Henry Frye is CHAIRMAN of this FOT event and is working with Andy Reid of
Classic Motorsports.

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 09:18:37 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:18:37 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <77134084.365638.1313014426443.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <77134084.365638.1313014426443.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004001cc5839$f2ecd810$d8c68830$@com>

I never used plastic gage for the bearing clearance.
To measure this I always take dial gauges which in my opinion is more
precise as you can also estimate the out of roundness of the parts.

Cheers
Chris

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 00:14
An: fot
Betreff: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

FoT

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the
bolts

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them.

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances.

Thanks as always,

jim g
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Thu Aug 11 09:56:41 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:56:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <004001cc5839$f2ecd810$d8c68830$@com>
Message-ID: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Chris, 

I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine how to size the journals. 

I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the machinst and/or check clearances 

while the motor is in the car. 



Jim G 


----- Original Message -----


From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:18:37 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances 

I never used plastic gage for the bearing clearance. 
To measure this I always take dial gauges which in my opinion is more 
precise as you can also estimate the out of roundness of the parts. 

Cheers 
Chris 

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Auftrag von toodamnfunky at comcast.net 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 00:14 
An: fot 
Betreff: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances 

FoT 

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the 
bolts 

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them. 

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping 

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod 

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances. 

Thanks as always, 

jim g 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:15:34 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:15:34 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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	<766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Hi Jim,



I have the same method as you to tap the bearing caps off.

Sorry that Ibm of any help to you.



Cheers

Chris



Von: toodamnfunky at comcast.net [mailto:toodamnfunky at comcast.net]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 17:57
An: MadMarx
Cc: Friends of Triumph
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances



Chris,

I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine how
to size the journals.

I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the machinst
and/or check clearances

while the motor is in the car.



Jim G

  _____

From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:18:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

I never used plastic gage for the bearing clearance.
To measure this I always take dial gauges which in my opinion is more
precise as you can also estimate the out of roundness of the parts.

Cheers
Chris

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Auftrag von toodamnfunky at comcast.net
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 00:14
An: fot
Betreff: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

FoT

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the
bolts

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them.

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances.

Thanks as always,

jim g
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:19:38 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:19:38 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <005901cc5842$795bd8d0$6c138a70$@com>

There will be another Kastner Cup this year.
As Kas will come to the Eifelrace in September and we thought it would be a
great idea to have a onetime only Kastner Cup in Europe.

To all European Triumph racers....this is your chance to win this trophy and
KEEP it!

Cheers
Chris

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 11 10:29:31 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:29:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
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	<005901cc5842$795bd8d0$6c138a70$@com>
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Outstanding!

Keep us posted.

Joe A.






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From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2011 11:23 am
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace


There will be another Kastner Cup this year.
As Kas will come to the Eifelrace in September and we thought it would be a
great idea to have a onetime only Kastner Cup in Europe.

To all European Triumph racers....this is your chance to win this trophy and
KEEP it!

Cheers
Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:49:44 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:49:44 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <OF016A0918.EE8BF145-ONC12578E9.005BA22E@LocalDomain>
References: <OF016A0918.EE8BF145-ONC12578E9.005BA22E@LocalDomain>
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Hi Peter,

the event takes place from 9th to 11th - Friday to Sunday.
The 3H race of the Triumph Competition and other series is a Saturday late
afternoon to early evening.
Start about 17.00 o'clock.
Practice is at Saturday morning.
At Sunday at 14.00 we have a 30 minute race to fill the Sunday with action.

Entry form (just for information)
http://tr-register.de/joomla/images/stories/tr-register/Sport/PDF/tr_register
_eifelrennen_2011.pdf
Schedule
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&
id=4&Itemid=84
Paddock
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/images/stories/dokumente/2011/orientierungspla
n_070611_neu.pdf


Cheers
Chris

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:51:27 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:51:27 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
References: <OF016A0918.EE8BF145-ONC12578E9.005BA22E@LocalDomain> 
Message-ID: <006701cc5846$ec100690$c43013b0$@com>

Sorry - they pulled us earlier as I see.

15.40 is the race at Saturday.

Cheers
Chris

-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: MadMarx [mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 18:50
An: 'peter.bulkowski at mercedes-benz.ca'
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net'
Betreff: AW: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace

Hi Peter,

the event takes place from 9th to 11th - Friday to Sunday.
The 3H race of the Triumph Competition and other series is a Saturday late
afternoon to early evening.
Start about 17.00 o'clock.
Practice is at Saturday morning.
At Sunday at 14.00 we have a 30 minute race to fill the Sunday with action.

Entry form (just for information)
http://tr-register.de/joomla/images/stories/tr-register/Sport/PDF/tr_register
_eifelrennen_2011.pdf
Schedule
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&
id=4&Itemid=84
Paddock
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/images/stories/dokumente/2011/orientierungspla
n_070611_neu.pdf


Cheers
Chris

From gaf3 at charter.net  Thu Aug 11 13:19:20 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:19:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>

I have been using platigauge for years. Works great. Just built an 
engine last month and have two in process right now.
I check out of round of the journals with a digital mic, but bearing 
clearances with platigauge on the mains and rods.
Most of my engine builds have been street performance engines and I 
always have my automotive machine shop grind and polish the crank.
I'm old school and used to use an inside mike on the ID then check the 
difference to the OD (PITA).
Glenn
On 8/11/2011 11:56 AM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
> Chris,
>
> I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine how to size the journals.
>
> I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the machinst and/or check clearances
>
> while the motor is in the car.
>
>
>
> Jim G

From jerrybarr at charter.net  Thu Aug 11 13:30:28 2011
From: jerrybarr at charter.net (Jerry Barr)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:30:28 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>
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	<4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>
Message-ID: <DF7D804C-63A5-4CFF-B99C-5E5259232E97@charter.net>

I assemble the bearing caps on the block then use a dial bore gage or inside
micrometer to determine the size and roundness of the bearing bore. Then
install the bearings and retorque the caps and check the inside diameter of
the bearings for size and roundness. Or just use plastigage.
On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Glenn Franco wrote:

> I have been using platigauge for years. Works great. Just built an engine
last month and have two in process right now.
> I check out of round of the journals with a digital mic, but bearing
clearances with platigauge on the mains and rods.
> Most of my engine builds have been street performance engines and I always
have my automotive machine shop grind and polish the crank.
> I'm old school and used to use an inside mike on the ID then check the
difference to the OD (PITA).
> Glenn
> On 8/11/2011 11:56 AM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine
how to size the journals.
>>
>> I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the
machinst and/or check clearances
>>
>> while the motor is in the car.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim G
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Thu Aug 11 17:51:08 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:51:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY
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When in April so I can make sure I schedule it. I wanna go real bad!

On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:17 AM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> Mark your calendars and make your plans:
> 
> 
> APRIL  2012
> 
> 10TH RUNNING OF THE KASTNER CUP
> 
> Road Atlanta
> 
> Kas Kastner is the GRAND MARSHALL of this HSR event known as
> 
> THE MITTY
> 
> Henry Frye is CHAIRMAN of this FOT event and is working with Andy Reid of
> Classic Motorsports.
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 11 17:55:03 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:55:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY
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	<31289744-9B1E-46EB-B502-487E555EE2AD@aol.com>
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The last weekend in April.

 Henry will be publishing the general details as FOT EVENT CHAIRMAN.

Everyone should be flying their new FOT FLAGS.

JOE A.









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To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2011 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY


When in April so I can make sure I schedule it. I wanna go real bad!

On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:17 AM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> Mark your calendars and make your plans:
>
>
> APRIL  2012
>
> 10TH RUNNING OF THE KASTNER CUP
>
> Road Atlanta
>
> Kas Kastner is the GRAND MARSHALL of this HSR event known as
>
> THE MITTY
>
> Henry Frye is CHAIRMAN of this FOT event and is working with Andy Reid of
> Classic Motorsports.
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>
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From kaskas at cox.net  Fri Aug 12 18:27:36 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:27:36 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FW: 1965 Sebring ...
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References: <009401cc58a2$72e9c150$58bd43f0$@net>
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This is the 1965 race for the factory Spitfire coupes that I ran that year.
This is the time the right rear tire floated away in the pits during a tire
change to wet tires.  Fun now to see, but terrible then. I had a cheap  cowboy
hat and it kind of melted and hung down over my ears when Jim Hall went out of
the pits and covered me with a wave of water. Bolton had crashed the lead
Spitfire on the 5th lap  but the other two cars finished for second and third
in the catagory.

Never be beaten by equipment
 From: rj8083 at verizon.net
To: rj8083 at verizon.net
Subject: 1965 Sebring ...
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:46:41 -0500



1965 Sebring 12-Hour Race

5.2 mile course w/famous names & cars, & trite "What's it like out there"
commentary.
No ARMCO, no firesuits, no driveover bridge to the paddock, a few haybales,
etc. Enjoy!

Part 1/5, ~5 min

Part 2/5, ~5 min

Part 3/5, ~3 min

Part 4/5, ~6 min

Part 5/5, ~5.5 min
No virus found in this incoming message.
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Aug 12 20:39:39 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:39:39 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
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Message-ID: <4E45E3EB.1050108@bradakis.com>

Oops.  There's an issue involving Webers I *really* need to deal with ASAP.
Thanks for the reminder.

mjb.

From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 13 10:02:34 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:02:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] who's going
Message-ID: <1313251354.89272.YahooMailRC@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Two races ....  

Who plans to do the midwestern council race at RA?

and ....
Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at RA?
 
Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire

From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 13 12:59:46 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Was anyone close to Mark Joslyn?
Message-ID: <1313261986.18547.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I bought some items from Mark's estate and among them was a great large
picture of him driving the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile.  Unfortunately, I didn't
know Mark but I'm betting some of you did and would be a better place for this
picture than me.  I'll be happy to ship it to someone that would appreciate it
:-)

Jamie Palmer

From jason at multivintage.com  Sat Aug 13 13:24:09 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:24:09 +0000
Subject: [Fot] who's going
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I'll be there with my GT6.
Hope everything holds up as I'm racing at Grattan the week before which is hard on the car. I've been preping the car nightly for weeks. Looking forward to some serious racing action in back to back weekends!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: tom strange <tstrange at sbcglobal.net>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:02:34 
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] who's going

Two races ....  

Who plans to do the midwestern council race at RA?

and ....
Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at RA?
 
Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire
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From Gt6steve at aol.com  Sat Aug 13 13:37:45 2011
From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:37:45 EDT
Subject: [Fot] who's going
Message-ID: <9896.1c288811.3b782c89@aol.com>

So I guess the clutch worked???  Yaaaaahooooo!!
 
 
In a message dated 8/13/2011 12:28:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
jason at multivintage.com writes:

I'll be  there with my GT6.
Hope everything holds up as I'm racing at Grattan the  week before which is 
hard on the car. I've been preping the car nightly for  weeks. Looking 
forward to some serious racing action in back to back  weekends!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
Sent via BlackBerry  by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: tom strange  <tstrange at sbcglobal.net>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat,  13 Aug 2011 09:02:34 
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot]  who's going

Two races ....  

Who plans to do the midwestern  council race at RA?

and ....
Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at  RA?

Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4  white  spitfire
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sat Aug 13 15:25:05 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:25:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] who's going
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I'll be at ELVF...

Tony

At 11:02 AM 8/13/2011, tom strange wrote:
>Two races ....
>
>Who plans to do the midwestern council race at RA?
>
>and ....
>Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at RA?
>
>Tom
>http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm
>
>
>#4 white spitfire
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From triosan at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 22:36:53 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:36:53 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

-- 
Chuck Arnold

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Aug 14 00:52:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:52:35 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.33.1313304764.3298.fot@autox.team.net>

I use the same setup with a 1.5 ohm coil but do use a 1.5 ohm resistor.
Works fine.
The coil is a red bosch one.

Cheers 
Chris
Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" <triosan at gmail.com>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:36:53 
To: Friends<fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation

I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

-- 
Chuck Arnold
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Aug 14 04:20:42 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:20:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>

you might check in with Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors.

like Sean says, 'he is passionate about distributors'>

he will likely recommend a Bosch.

send the whole assembly to him and he will set it up to your engine
specifications.






-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley <triosan at gmail.com>
To: Friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 11:40 pm
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation


I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

--
Chuck Arnold
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Sun Aug 14 05:55:43 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:55:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9059CADAE5EB4C288067845C769CD18E@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi Chuck, I run a Pertronix brand distributor and have been told that a 0.6 
ohm coil is needed with that dist. No ballast needed.
It's been working fine for a couple years. I did have a coil fail last year 
but I think that falls under the crap happens thing. No further problems.
Is your charging system OK? Just wondering.
Good luck.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" <triosan at gmail.com>
To: "Friends" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:36 AM
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation


>I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
> electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
> combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to 
> believe
> the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 
> 1.5
> ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
> problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run 
> [nut
> that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
> early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The 
> first
> session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
> and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the 
> car
> died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel 
> system
> was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
> session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and 
> then
> it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
> after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so 
> I
> replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
> hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
> This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have 
> had
> a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
> the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
> chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind 
> the
> wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
> tows in a day they owned the car.
>
> So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
> Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast? 
> Am
> thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but 
> no
> sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix 
> tech
> support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
> Chuck Arnold
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Aug 14 07:18:39 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:18:39 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000e01cc5a84$b0f4adf0$12de09d0$@com>

I cannot recommend to use the resistor which does come with the Bosch coil.
The resistor gets hot and its value rises from 1.6 to 1.9 Ohms.
If so then you have trouble to start the car when it's hot during a race.
The coil itself is doing very well.

I replaced that resistor with a 1.5Ohms 25Watt unit which works fine so far.
But I carry a replacement of 100 Watt if the 25W would fail one day.

Cheers
Chris


-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von n197tr4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. August 2011 12:21
An: triosan at gmail.com; fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Coil recommendation

you might check in with Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors.

like Sean says, 'he is passionate about distributors'>

he will likely recommend a Bosch.

send the whole assembly to him and he will set it up to your engine
specifications.






-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley <triosan at gmail.com>
To: Friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 11:40 pm
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation


I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

--
Chuck Arnold
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From malaboge at aol.com  Sun Aug 14 16:09:29 2011
From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:09:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot]  Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <8CE28CE79034D0B-2180-20E83@Webmail-d104.sysops.aol.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com><8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>
	<000e01cc5a84$b0f4adf0$12de09d0$@com>
	<8CE28CE79034D0B-2180-20E83@Webmail-d104.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE28E5F8F8F92E-186C-5F058@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com>

Chris-

I have run a similar setup with similar issues.  I installed a "ballast
bypass" to a switch on the dash.  Bypass the ballast to start and then open
the circuit to run through the resistor.  It was not something that you could
forget to do as the toggle I used was a "momentary" switch, ie. you had to
hold it on while starting and as soon as you let go it opened that circuit.

Why are those silly electrons so important...you can't even see 'em...
Nick in Nor Cal







-----Original Message-----
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2011 6:25 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil recommendation


I cannot recommend to use the resistor which does come with the Bosch coil.
he resistor gets hot and its value rises from 1.6 to 1.9 Ohms.
f so then you have trouble to start the car when it's hot during a race.
he coil itself is doing very well.
I replaced that resistor with a 1.5Ohms 25Watt unit which works fine so far.
ut I carry a replacement of 100 Watt if the 25W would fail one day.
Cheers
hris

From cwnfot at gmail.com  Sun Aug 14 18:04:56 2011
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:04:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bob Tulius at Lime Rock over Labor Day weekend.
Message-ID: <000101cc5ade$f80d4300$e827c900$@com>

Lime Rock press release (I'll be there crewing for #928 MGTD)
More information at www.limerock.com :

The best vintage racing festival and Concours on the East Coast is here at
Lime Rock Park Labor Day weekend, September 2  5, and we wanted to tell you
about some of the highlights.
 
Its called Historic Festival 29 Presented by Jaguar  the companion event
is the Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs  and for the
Saturday and Monday races, Chairman Murray Smith was able to gather the
largest field in the history of the event: 321 cars!
 
As an example of the increasing prestige of Lime Rock Parks Historic
Festival, there are cars coming from all over the world just to race here:
Australia, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland,
Antigua  even New Jersey!
 
There are 12 race groups, from pre-war to the 50s- and 60s-eras, plus a
tremendous group of F2, Formula Ford and Formula Junior open-wheelers from
the 60s and 70s. Fantastic...
 
There are two special race groups, too: a Jaguar-only field and an MG-only
group.
 
The Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs will present close
to 600 cars parked on the race track for show, including special Shelby and
MG collections! The 200+ Concours entrants will pack the front straight,
while the Car Show and Gathering of the Clubs will cover the rest of the
track.
 
We also want to tell you that there are three very special racing people
coming to Historic Festival 29.
 
The Honored Guest is Bob Tullius, the former driver and team owner (Group
44) who made Jaguar such a successful racing organization in the 70s, 80s
and 90s. Hes a friendly, approachable star, so keep your ears open for the
PA announcements advising when hell be free to talk to the fans.
 
The Honored Collector is Dr. Fred Simeone, whose Simeone Foundation Auto
Museum in Philadelphia is considered one of the finest with respect to
significant race cars. Hes bringing four outstanding vehicles: a D Type
Jaguar, third at Sebring, to enhance Jaguar's presence at our event; a K3
MG, the best-placed of all MGs at Le Mans; the DBR1 Aston Martin World
Champion Sports Racer, one of the best looking racing cars ever built; and
an Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 with a fabulous body by the house of Castagna,
absolutely unrestored (like the K3), and also like the MG, in a true state
of grace.

Clark

From triosan at gmail.com  Sun Aug 14 22:07:47 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:07:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Who on the list is contact for autometer?
Message-ID: <CAMc4sND+4537jRF_0t+1mHnXMUVk+DuAiRD055wUgrwus1gZoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Need a tach.

-- 
Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley

From jkhagen at charter.net  Mon Aug 15 07:30:21 2011
From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:30:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Bob Tulius at Lime Rock over Labor Day weekend.
Message-ID: <7efc2f15.4e2b8.131cda2c538.Webtop.44@charter.net>

There are at least 4 cars going from Mpls, Mn area   It is also MG 
feature event
so I'll take the MG powered TVR--[sorry]--The following week to Watkins 
Glen
if everything is still turning!   John Hagen [TR-4]


On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Clark W. Nicholls wrote:

> Lime Rock press release (I'll be there crewing for #928 MGTD)
> More information at www.limerock.com :
>
> The best vintage racing festival and Concours on the East Coast is 
> here at
> Lime Rock Park Labor Day weekend, September 2  5, and we wanted to 
> tell you
> about some of the highlights.
>  Its called Historic Festival 29 Presented by Jaguar  the companion 
> event
> is the Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs  and for 
> the
> Saturday and Monday races, Chairman Murray Smith was able to gather 
> the
> largest field in the history of the event: 321 cars!
>  As an example of the increasing prestige of Lime Rock Parks Historic
> Festival, there are cars coming from all over the world just to race 
> here:
> Australia, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland,
> Antigua  even New Jersey!
>  There are 12 race groups, from pre-war to the 50s- and 60s-eras, plus 
> a
> tremendous group of F2, Formula Ford and Formula Junior open-wheelers 
> from
> the 60s and 70s. Fantastic...
>  There are two special race groups, too: a Jaguar-only field and an 
> MG-only
> group.
>  The Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs will present 
> close
> to 600 cars parked on the race track for show, including special 
> Shelby and
> MG collections! The 200+ Concours entrants will pack the front 
> straight,
> while the Car Show and Gathering of the Clubs will cover the rest of 
> the
> track.
>  We also want to tell you that there are three very special racing 
> people
> coming to Historic Festival 29.
>  The Honored Guest is Bob Tullius, the former driver and team owner 
> (Group
> 44) who made Jaguar such a successful racing organization in the 70s, 
> 80s
> and 90s. Hes a friendly, approachable star, so keep your ears open for 
> the
> PA announcements advising when hell be free to talk to the fans.
>  The Honored Collector is Dr. Fred Simeone, whose Simeone Foundation 
> Auto
> Museum in Philadelphia is considered one of the finest with respect to
> significant race cars. Hes bringing four outstanding vehicles: a D 
> Type
> Jaguar, third at Sebring, to enhance Jaguar's presence at our event; a 
> K3
> MG, the best-placed of all MGs at Le Mans; the DBR1 Aston Martin World
> Champion Sports Racer, one of the best looking racing cars ever built; 
> and
> an Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 with a fabulous body by the house of Castagna,
> absolutely unrestored (like the K3), and also like the MG, in a true 
> state
> of grace.
>
> Clark
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 08:15:02 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:15:02 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
Message-ID: <006401cc5b55$ba9841b0$2fc8c510$@com>

Here are some nice shots of the DTM touring car races of the early 90ties on
the Nordschleife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsqBRyPs1HU&feature=related

Cheers
Chris

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 08:49:56 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:49:56 +0200
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
	<002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <006901cc5b5a$9c26bb30$d4743190$@com>

This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
Good to know that.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
An: MadMarx
Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Have you found this webpage:

http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20


Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
To: 'Friends of Triumph'
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Hi Guys,

I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late that
one wheel is a 5.5" one.
He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.

Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?

Cheers
Chris
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon Aug 15 09:03:41 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:03:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com><002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com><CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
	<006901cc5b5a$9c26bb30$d4743190$@com>
Message-ID: <564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close.
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
> Good to know that.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
> An: MadMarx
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Have you found this webpage:
>
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MadMarx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph'
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that
> one wheel is a 5.5" one.
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From REK46 at aol.com  Mon Aug 15 09:06:56 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:06:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] new member
Message-ID: <cf88c.5beeead8.3b7a9010@aol.com>

Last week I nominated Chris Crisenberry, and there were plenty of 'seconds' 
 so I assume he is voted in...How does he start to get emails? He has not 
seen  any yet....his  email is "  _spitracer1296 at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:spitracer1296 at yahoo.com)    "...rick

From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 09:25:43 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:25:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
Message-ID: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>

Don't know if you have heard.  FYI.  

 

Craig

 

It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 

John (JR) Herrera.  His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the 

arrangements.  As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be 

determined.  I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on.  May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.

From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Aug 15 09:41:09 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:41:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>
References: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>
Message-ID: <36BA8103-01D7-4EA6-A975-79B3FAF15A18@me.com>

I will miss John.  I know his health was lousy, and he struggled to make his way around the paddock, but he had a great sense of humor, knew his Triumphs, and always helped out with parts and tools in the paddock.  He had a way with the written word and his comments will be sorely missed.  I'll remember him in that pale blue TR3 or in his old pick-up truck.  A life cut too short, for sure.  We'll have to have a ceremony/toast for him at the Turkey Bowl this year.


On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Craig wrote:

Don't know if you have heard.  FYI.  



Craig



It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 

John (JR) Herrera.  His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the 

arrangements.  As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be 

determined.  I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on.  May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.
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From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 09:46:12 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:46:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <36BA8103-01D7-4EA6-A975-79B3FAF15A18@me.com>
References: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>
	<36BA8103-01D7-4EA6-A975-79B3FAF15A18@me.com>
Message-ID: <005601cc5b62$7c8ed5c0$75ac8140$@net>

Sounds good to me 

 

Craig

 

From: Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:41 AM
To: Craig
Cc: FOT (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend

 

I will miss John.  I know his health was lousy, and he struggled to make his
way around the paddock, but he had a great sense of humor, knew his
Triumphs, and always helped out with parts and tools in the paddock.  He had
a way with the written word and his comments will be sorely missed.  I'll
remember him in that pale blue TR3 or in his old pick-up truck.  A life cut
too short, for sure.  We'll have to have a ceremony/toast for him at the
Turkey Bowl this year.

 

 

On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Craig wrote:

 

Don't know if you have heard.  FYI.  



Craig



It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 

John (JR) Herrera.  His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the 

arrangements.  As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be 

determined.  I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on.  May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.
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From harmug at us.ibm.com  Mon Aug 15 10:27:43 2011
From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:27:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 57, Issue 20
In-Reply-To: <mailman.33711.1313422909.3301.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <OF1659E526.786DBE70-ON852578ED.0059C620-852578ED.005A6E6D@us.ibm.com>

Bob Tulius at Limerock Labor day weekend.

As an example of the increasing prestige of Lime Rock Park's Historic
Festival, there are cars coming from all over the world just to race here:
Australia, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland,
Antigua  even New Jersey!

I'll be there with the #7 , 63 Spitfire, towing all the way from
Poughkeepsie, NY (40 minutes).
 Someone has to stand up to the MGs.

mike

63 spit
70 GT6+
72 MK4
77 1500
2 (80) 1500s

plus assorted running cars

G. Michael Harmuth

From sgroh1 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 11:11:15 2011
From: sgroh1 at comcast.net (sgroh1 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:11:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <005601cc5b62$7c8ed5c0$75ac8140$@net>
Message-ID: <327522076.183202.1313428275559.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Damn.B  John was always ready to lend his knowledge and experience, whether
trackside or not.B  One of the most valuable lessons he taught me was patience
in the pits, and keeping a humorous attitude in the paddock.B  I will miss him
greatly, but I'll have a navigatorB beside me at every race.B  Rest in Peace,
John.

Steve



----- Original Message -----


From: "Craig" <wensley_tr at comcast.net>
To: "Scott Janzen" <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: "FOT (E-mail)" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:46:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend

Sounds good to me

B 

Craig

B 

From: Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:41 AM
To: Craig
Cc: FOT (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend

B 

I will miss John. B I know his health was lousy, and he struggled to make his
way around the paddock, but he had a great sense of humor, knew his
Triumphs, and always helped out with parts and tools in the paddock. B He had
a way with the written word and his comments will be sorely missed. B I'll
remember him in that pale blue TR3 or in his old pick-up truck. B A life cut
too short, for sure. B We'll have to have a ceremony/toast for him at the
Turkey Bowl this year.

B 

B 

On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Craig wrote:

B 

Don't know if you have heard. B FYI. B 



Craig



It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of

John (JR) Herrera. B His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the

arrangements. B As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be

determined. B I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on. B May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.
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From Catpusher at aol.com  Mon Aug 15 14:18:53 2011
From: Catpusher at aol.com (Catpusher at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:18:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Back to Laguna
Message-ID: <1585d.5ddb4002.3b7ad92d@aol.com>

FOT,
 
We hope to see some of you at Laguna this week.
 
We were sent this link from the Kastner Cup event:
 
_http://laprecord.com/Part-355-2011%20KK1/Pt-Index.htm_ 
(http://laprecord.com/Part-355-2011%20KK1/Pt-Index.htm) 


TR Regards,
 
Hardy & Ellie

From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 14:49:18 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:49:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Passing of another Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <327522076.183202.1313428275559.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <327522076.183202.1313428275559.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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Chris Lawrence, 78, creator of the 1962 Morgan Plus 4 LeMans class winner
(from which the mighty factory Plus 4 Super Sports model was designed), died
Saturday.  Proprietor of Lawrence Tune, he also designed the Abarth-beating
Deep Sanderson, the stillborn Monica grand touring car, and the recent Morgan
Aero 8.

The guy knew a thing or two about TR engines and suspension design  He
invented the Lawrence link suspension to get around the flaws inherent in the
VW beetle front suspension he had previously used on his Formula Junior racer,
allowing camber recovery and no change in roll center, putting him ahead of
Lotus 18s on occasion.

A bit more here: http://www.lawrence-tune.co.uk/

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Aug 15 15:04:17 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:04:17 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
Message-ID: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods. 

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex

From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Aug 15 15:22:39 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:22:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>

These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery and the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.

Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you over-stretch one!

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods. 

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Mon Aug 15 15:21:54 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:21:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DCFB@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Find the markings on the top of the rod bolts and call Carrillo's tech
people.  Actually, hang on a sec....

Here...

http://www.cp-carrillo.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=rGOOtq6Rn%2fY%3d&ta
bid=76

I'd torque to the value set in the chart, not the stock number.
Carrillo told me the bolts are "good for the life of the rod" - but not
if you over-torque them, I'd imagine.

I just had to answer this question on the Carrillo rods in my Spit and
found this on their web site.  Find the markings on the bolt heads and
this chart will tell you the torque.

You might want to ask someone more savvy than I, but I wonder whether
you might want to be sure that your rods were last reconditioned with
the bolts torqued at the same value.

Scott B.



-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:04 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and
the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Aug 15 15:31:15 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:31:15 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>
Message-ID: <006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch>

Thank you Scott !

Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which is
similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not so
slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPs lube which is the
slipperiest stuff in circulation).

I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.

In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the 3/8
WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.

Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?

Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
Thank you !

Cheers

Alex



De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
Envoyi : lundi 15 ao{t 2011 23:23
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing



These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on
them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery
and the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.



Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you
over-stretch one!



On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:



Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Mon Aug 15 15:31:19 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:31:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <009901cc5b92$ac57a680$0506f380$@rr.com>

Typically Carillo rods have the bolts torque based on stretch. At least in
Spitfires that's the way it is. Had to buy another gadget but all went well
after a little sweat and nerves. I suggest you contact Carillo, their tech
guys are real helpful and there's probably no better resource for your
question. I bought the stretch gauge at Summit Racing. I can send a picture
if you need and probably their part number.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:04 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods. 

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Aug 15 15:42:28 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott janzen)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:42:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>
	<006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>

Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch gauge,
however.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:

> Thank you Scott !
>
> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which is
similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not so
slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is the
slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>
> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>
> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the 3/8
WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>
> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>
> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
> Thank you !
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
> C : Alexandre Camoletti
> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>
>
>
> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on
them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery and
the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>
>
>
> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you
over-stretch one!
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>
>
>
> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>
> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>
> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>
> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>
> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Aug 15 15:52:01 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:52:01 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DCFB@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DCFB@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
Message-ID: <007901cc5b95$91f2e090$b5d8a1b0$@camoletti.ch>

Thank you Barr! Yes this is the sheet that came with the (new) set and where
I came with the max figure  of 40lbs.
So I will stick to that (and maybe purchase the stretch gauge).
Cheers!
Alex

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Barr, Scott [mailto:sbarr at McCarty-Law.com]
Envoyi : lundi 15 ao{t 2011 23:22
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : RE: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Find the markings on the top of the rod bolts and call Carrillo's tech
people.  Actually, hang on a sec....

Here...

http://www.cp-carrillo.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=rGOOtq6Rn%2fY%3d&ta
bid=76

I'd torque to the value set in the chart, not the stock number.
Carrillo told me the bolts are "good for the life of the rod" - but not if
you over-torque them, I'd imagine.

I just had to answer this question on the Carrillo rods in my Spit and found
this on their web site.  Find the markings on the bolt heads and this chart
will tell you the torque.

You might want to ask someone more savvy than I, but I wonder whether you
might want to be sure that your rods were last reconditioned with the bolts
torqued at the same value.

Scott B.



-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:04 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 15:56:21 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:56:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>
	<006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch>
	<109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
Message-ID: <2E5273E0-CE99-4631-89E1-8A20D05C07B2@gmail.com>

Can't stretch be determined with calipers, using before and after
measurements?
Duncan

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Scott janzen wrote:

> Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
> over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch
gauge,
> however.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Scott !
>>
>> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which
is
> similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not
so
> slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is
the
> slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>>
>> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>>
>> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the
3/8
> WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>>
>> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>>
>> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
>> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
>> C : Alexandre Camoletti
>> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
>> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>>
>>
>>
>> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
> material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
> required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
> about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
> instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use
on
> them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
> lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery
and
> the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
> indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if
you
> over-stretch one!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>>
>> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and
the
>> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>>
>> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>>
>> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>>
>> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 15:57:26 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:57:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch><6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com><006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch><109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
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My rods have ARP bolts and I torque them up with 45 (3/8"). I habe a table chart for each bolt and do measue each bolt after usage.
Non of the bolts were ever replaced as the bolt length did not change so far.
Cheers
Chris
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:42:28 
To: Alexandre Camoletti<ac at camoletti.ch>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net<fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch gauge,
however.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:

> Thank you Scott !
>
> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which is
similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not so
slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is the
slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>
> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>
> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the 3/8
WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>
> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>
> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
> Thank you !
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
> C : Alexandre Camoletti
> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>
>
>
> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on
them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery and
the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>
>
>
> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you
over-stretch one!
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>
>
>
> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>
> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>
> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>
> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>
> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 16:02:12 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:02:12 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <2E5273E0-CE99-4631-89E1-8A20D05C07B2@gmail.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch><6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com><006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch><109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com><2E5273E0-CE99-4631-89E1-8A20D05C07B2@gmail.com>
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Yes!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:56:21 
To: fot<fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Can't stretch be determined with calipers, using before and after
measurements?
Duncan

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Scott janzen wrote:

> Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
> over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch
gauge,
> however.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Scott !
>>
>> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which
is
> similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not
so
> slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is
the
> slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>>
>> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>>
>> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the
3/8
> WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>>
>> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>>
>> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
>> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
>> C : Alexandre Camoletti
>> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
>> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>>
>>
>>
>> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
> material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
> required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
> about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
> instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use
on
> them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
> lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery
and
> the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
> indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if
you
> over-stretch one!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>>
>> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and
the
>> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>>
>> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>>
>> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>>
>> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
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From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Mon Aug 15 17:32:04 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1313451124.73458.YahooMailRC@web180601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Chuck, I am running a Crane system on a TR6 and using their coil (LX 91) and
bypassing the resistor wire.  i don't have a lot of time on it yet but so far
everything seems to be working great.  I read somewhere and it sounded very
reasonable at the time that if you run a hot coil with the resistor wire, then
you get no benefit from the hot coil.  I have two TR6s, one street and one
otherwise, and neither uses the resistor wire.  Jim
________________________________
From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
<triosan at gmail.com>
To: Friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, August 13,
2011 9:36:53 PM
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation

I have a Pertronix
distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have
a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I
had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so
I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a
couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move
to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I
burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on
the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it
had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes
into the session the car
died.  After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking,
determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed
that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for
two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first
thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not
functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point
checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same
results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should
have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car
died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows
in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone
have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm
coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix
non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for
advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there
answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

-- 
Chuck Arnold
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From m-syork at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 20:56:33 2011
From: m-syork at comcast.net (Mark York)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>
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	<564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>
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Charly
These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with
Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:04 AM
To: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close.
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
> Good to know that.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
> An: MadMarx
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Have you found this webpage:
>
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MadMarx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph'
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that
> one wheel is a 5.5" one.
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 23:37:07 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:37:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
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How much would be way too much?

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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:33 
To: 'Charly Mitchel'<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>; 'MadMarx'<tr4racing at googlemail.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Charly
These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with
Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:04 AM
To: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close.
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
> Good to know that.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
> An: MadMarx
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Have you found this webpage:
>
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MadMarx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph'
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that
> one wheel is a 5.5" one.
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Aug 16 08:25:03 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:25:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Mark York wrote:

> Charly
> These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with
> Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting.
> Mark

If the wheels are all as good as the one depicted and they include the 
American Racing center cap, then they are def. worth some money. 
Center caps are scarce as hens' teeth.

I'm just saying.

I wouldn't buy that set for my race car, though.

Also note that the one pictured is a 5.5" rim. The 5.5" rim has a rib 
where the spokes connect to the outer rim, the 6.0" is flat there.

regards,
rml
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From m-syork at comcast.net  Tue Aug 16 11:15:21 2011
From: m-syork at comcast.net (m-syork at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:15:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <1546606614-1313473030-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1252394901-@b16.c2.bise7.blackberry>
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I had a set of ARE LeMans wheels on a TR4A that I owned long ago and was curious to see what the cost of a set would be for a TR4 I currently own. 
For a "restored" set of 5.5" or 6" x 15"with 4 x 4.5 bolt pattern I was quoted $1200. The price did not include the lug nuts which are shouldered and can be difficult to find. 
I ended up buying a set of Panasports from Spruell Motorsports in Atlanta for around $800. 
I also remember the LeMans wheel needing spacers on the front to avoid grinding the inside of the wheel. 
The quote I got was about 8 months ago 
But I do like the looks of the LeMans wheel. 
Regards 
Mark 

----- Original Message -----
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com 
To: "Mark York" <m-syork at comcast.net>, "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>, fot at autox.team.net 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:37:07 PM 
Subject: AW: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 

How much would be way too much? 

Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone 

-----Original Message----- 
From: "Mark York" <m-syork at comcast.net> 
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:33 
To: 'Charly Mitchel'<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>; 'MadMarx'<tr4racing at googlemail.com>; <fot at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 

Charly 
These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with 
Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting. 
Mark 

-----Original Message----- 
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:04 AM 
To: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close. 
Charly Mitchel 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
To: <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident. 
> Good to know that. 
> 
> Cheers 
> Chris 
> 
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- 
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com] 
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42 
> An: MadMarx 
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 
> 
> Have you found this webpage: 
> 
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20 
> 
> 
> Bob Kramer 
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager 
> RDO Equipment Company 
> 16415 N. IH 35 Pflugerville, TX 78660 
> 512-687-7422 Office 
> 512-657-8526 Cell 
> 
> 
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn 
> out. ~John Wooden 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf Of MadMarx 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM 
> To: 'Friends of Triumph' 
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 
> 
> Hi Guys, 
> 
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that 
> one wheel is a 5.5" one. 
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4. 
> 
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel? 
> 
> Cheers 
> Chris 
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug 16 13:19:37 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:19:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
Message-ID: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>

There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
computer.... in relative isolation.

TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES

9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.

Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.

Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and more.

How do you deal with a guy like this?

I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine core cheap.

Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of Roberts
Johns who took me to this
mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....

Joe A.

From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Aug 16 13:36:59 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:36:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
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Does he have Lucas electrics in his house? (okay, I couldn't resist!)

Have him mark out an LZ and fly in with a single rotor......................

Russ Moore

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:20 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----

There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
computer.... in relative isolation.

TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES

9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.

Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.

Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and more.

How do you deal with a guy like this?

I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine core cheap.

Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of Roberts
Johns who took me to this
mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....

Joe A.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Aug 16 14:36:39 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:36:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:19 PM, <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote
"How do you deal with a guy like this?"
Its quite simple, If you see something you like in this mysterious wonderful
place, Ask him How Much it is?
If the price seems right... pull the Cash out of your pocket and buy it from
him.
If the price seems to high... offer him less, (the amount you are willing to
pay)
The fact that he is isolated should actually work in your favor. The
important thing to remember in this situation is that CASH TALKS.
My Professional Opinion
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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From Lunkercars at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 16 15:09:18 2011
From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:09:18 -0600
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
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Message-ID: <4CBC8A25-56A0-4BCE-8FBB-CCBE0776A4AF@earthlink.net>

I know exactly how to deal with the type. In fact it sounds like kin  
to the guy that started me with my TR stock... 9000' up the side of a  
New Mexico mountain to liberate a total of 14 cars/parts. Took Connie  
and I 4 trips, 3 trailers [only the single axle "shuttle" trailer  
would make it up], 2 four wheel drives [plus his Scout "mountain  
tug"] and about 1000 miles to get it done. And worth all that, every  
penny and every skinned knuckle. Give me a proximity and I'll be on  
my way [no address needed for this kind of guy].
Let me know - my drool is already becoming a problem.

Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM
On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:19 PM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
> computer.... in relative isolation.
>
> TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES
>
> 9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.
>
> Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.
>
> Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and  
> more.
>
> How do you deal with a guy like this?
>
> I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine  
> core cheap.
>
> Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of  
> Roberts
> Johns who took me to this
> mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Tue Aug 16 15:35:19 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:35:19 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
In-Reply-To: <4CBC8A25-56A0-4BCE-8FBB-CCBE0776A4AF@earthlink.net>
References: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
	<4CBC8A25-56A0-4BCE-8FBB-CCBE0776A4AF@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD34@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Dunno how well this will work, but I just uploaded to Facebook a photo
of Chris Mills' stash here just north of Appleton WI (circa 1998, photo
credit to Kent Howard, erstwhile pilot of Little Red Riding Hard).  Gone
now, in the name of progress.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1070084715228.2010192.131940902
5&saved#!/photo.php?fbid=1912850503846&set=a.1070084715228.2010192.13194
09025&type=1&theater

Chris still has much of the mechanical bits and other portable parts.
These were, at the time of this photo, mostly the stripped and rusting
hulks.  He's got barns full of good stuff, but you can't reach him to
buy anything...

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:09 PM
To: n197tr4 at cs.com
Cc: fot friends
Subject: Re: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----

I know exactly how to deal with the type. In fact it sounds like kin
to the guy that started me with my TR stock... 9000' up the side of a
New Mexico mountain to liberate a total of 14 cars/parts. Took Connie
and I 4 trips, 3 trailers [only the single axle "shuttle" trailer
would make it up], 2 four wheel drives [plus his Scout "mountain
tug"] and about 1000 miles to get it done. And worth all that, every
penny and every skinned knuckle. Give me a proximity and I'll be on
my way [no address needed for this kind of guy].
Let me know - my drool is already becoming a problem.

Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM
On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:19 PM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
> computer.... in relative isolation.
>
> TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES
>
> 9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.
>
> Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.
>
> Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and
> more.
>
> How do you deal with a guy like this?
>
> I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine
> core cheap.
>
> Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of
> Roberts
> Johns who took me to this
> mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 16 21:10:37 2011
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:10:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of four 
delivered.
rotawheels.com

nfi
Dennis

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Aug 16 23:12:25 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:12:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
Message-ID: <mailman.38.1313557947.3298.fot@autox.team.net>

I heard nothing good about rota.
They are not Nordschleife safe.
Few tested them and they got cracks at the bolt area.

Cheers
Chris

------Originalnachricht------
Von: Dennis DeLap
An: m-syork at comcast.net
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
Gesendet: 17. Aug. 2011 05:10



ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of four 
delivered.
rotawheels.com

nfi
Dennis


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From deweerdm at rogers.com  Wed Aug 17 02:35:44 2011
From: deweerdm at rogers.com (MIKE DEWEERD)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 01:35:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Gear ratios
Message-ID: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Amici 
 I have a TR4A rear end here that seems to spin in the 2-1 range?? When one
wheel is held and the driveshaft is turned 2 times the wheel has made 1 full
turn.Going to pull the cover off tonight to look further into this.I don't
know of a ratio this low........any one??? it's a later model...guessing
1967.(parts car)ThanksMike Deweerd  TR4 #77

From goodparts at verizon.net  Wed Aug 17 05:03:33 2011
From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:03:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Gear ratios
In-Reply-To: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>

Mike,

If you are turning one wheel you will need to multiply the driveshaft turns 
by two to get the diff ratio.  2.05 turns of the driveshaft would equal a 
4.1 diff ratio.  To get more accurate you can turn one wheel 10 turns then 
divide the driveshaft turns by 5.

Richard Good
--------------------------------------------------
From: "MIKE DEWEERD" <deweerdm at rogers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:35 AM
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Gear ratios

> Amici
> I have a TR4A rear end here that seems to spin in the 2-1 range?? When one
> wheel is held and the driveshaft is turned 2 times the wheel has made 1 
> full
> turn.Going to pull the cover off tonight to look further into this.I don't
> know of a ratio this low........any one??? it's a later model...guessing
> 1967.(parts car)ThanksMike Deweerd  TR4 #77
> _______________________________________________

From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Wed Aug 17 06:16:27 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:16:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

I knew I had seen some reproduction Libre wheels. VTO sells them in a 15x6
with a +3 offset. Might be a good racing option.

http://www.vtowheels.com/


Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Dennis DeLap
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:11 PM
To: m-syork at comcast.net; tr4racing at googlemail.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of
four delivered.
rotawheels.com

nfi
Dennis
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From jhd11 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 17 07:24:04 2011
From: jhd11 at hotmail.com (Joe Henry)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:24:04 +0000
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>

     VTO wheels can be purchased through Acme Speed Shop in S.C.  I am looking
at some for our TR6. Call Hap Waldrop.

Joe Downer
RiffRAF Racing TR6
Charlotte, N.C.

> From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com
> To: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net; m-syork at comcast.net;
tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:16:27 -0500
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> I knew I had seen some reproduction Libre wheels. VTO sells them in a 15x6
> with a +3 offset. Might be a good racing option.
>
> http://www.vtowheels.com/
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things
turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf
> Of Dennis DeLap
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:11 PM
> To: m-syork at comcast.net; tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of
> four delivered.
> rotawheels.com
>
> nfi
> Dennis
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 17 09:12:28 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:12:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"  now WHEEL SPACERS AVAILABLE
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE2B07362AD881-72C-6005@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com>

Speaking of wheels....

We just ran another 100 wheel spacers and will provide at FOT prices if any
one wants to do some tweaking on track.and clearance.

Joe






-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Henry <jhd11 at hotmail.com>
To: rkramer <rkramer at rdoequipment.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 17, 2011 8:30 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


     VTO wheels can be purchased through Acme Speed Shop in S.C.  I am
looking
at some for our TR6. Call Hap Waldrop.

Joe Downer
RiffRAF Racing TR6
Charlotte, N.C.

> From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com
> To: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net; m-syork at comcast.net;
tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:16:27 -0500
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> I knew I had seen some reproduction Libre wheels. VTO sells them in a 15x6
> with a +3 offset. Might be a good racing option.
>
> http://www.vtowheels.com/
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things
turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf
> Of Dennis DeLap
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:11 PM
> To: m-syork at comcast.net; tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of
> four delivered.
> rotawheels.com
>
> nfi
> Dennis
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Wed Aug 17 09:20:35 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:20:35 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Cape Coventry on a wing & a prayer
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds7665A2EF2E398FCBDAECBB7280@phx.gbl>

For those of you who weren't aware, John made it to Charleston in his big
Healy re: his sponsored Cancer drive.
He's now (Wed.) on I-40 heading to Albq. Low oil pressure, (19# @ 3500 &
leaking copious amounts of it) and wind burnt to beat the band...
Keep a good thought for him this leg of the return trip, it can't be pleasant
-

K Lynch

From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Aug 17 12:37:00 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:37:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Length of Spitfire Pushrods?
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD5B@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I'm looking for a recommendation for the length of pushrods for a 1500
Spitfire as a starting place.  The head thickness is 2.906.  I'm
ordering a  set of lifters and tubular pushrods from Richard Good and
just need to tell him what length to make the pushrods.  I'm assuming I
should err on the long side, right?



Scott

From riverside at southslope.net  Wed Aug 17 12:58:35 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:58:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <DF7D804C-63A5-4CFF-B99C-5E5259232E97@charter.net>
References: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>
	<DF7D804C-63A5-4CFF-B99C-5E5259232E97@charter.net>
Message-ID: <03B55BF604B342088883458DF1798B72@rileyPC>

I have had poor luck measuring the bearing clearance across the parting line
with plastigage - a
dimension as important as the one 90 degrees from the parting line.   For 
that
reason I prefer dial bore gauges and micrometers.

art de armond

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jerry Barr
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:30 PM
To: Glenn Franco
Cc: Friends of triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

I assemble the bearing caps on the block then use a dial bore gage or inside
micrometer to determine the size and roundness of the bearing bore. Then
install the bearings and retorque the caps and check the inside diameter of
the bearings for size and roundness. Or just use plastigage.
On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Glenn Franco wrote:

> I have been using platigauge for years. Works great. Just built an engine
last month and have two in process right now.
> I check out of round of the journals with a digital mic, but bearing
clearances with platigauge on the mains and rods.
> Most of my engine builds have been street performance engines and I always
have my automotive machine shop grind and polish the crank.
> I'm old school and used to use an inside mike on the ID then check the
difference to the OD (PITA).
> Glenn
> On 8/11/2011 11:56 AM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine
how to size the journals.
>>
>> I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the
machinst and/or check clearances
>>
>> while the motor is in the car.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim G
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Aug 17 12:59:27 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:59:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] On The Grid at Grattan
Message-ID: <CALCydYrmvdW14hQ8isUY+DusXjojaRU7EnROG4VDbt7yHMMddA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings all!
We will have 6 FOT'ers on the grid for Grattan Raceway in Michigan this
weekend and a few others working and spectating
Grattan is a great track for spectating and totally awesome for driving.
Friday practice, Saturday full day of qualifying and races, Sunday another
full day.
Great party Saturday nite and my cooler is always full.
Representing a variety of models come see:

Dennis DeLap, TVR 2200S
Bill Dentinger, TR3
Tony Drews, TR4
Ryan Murphy, TR4
Jason Ostrowski, GT6+
Bob Wismer, TR4

Everyone accept me (Group 8) will be in group 2
Plus I'm running in the Trans Am B Sedan Feature race.

Gone racing!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+

From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Aug 17 13:14:32 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:14:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Length of Spitfire Pushrods?
In-Reply-To: <4E4C11BB.1050806@dfn.com>
References: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD5B@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
	<4E4C11BB.1050806@dfn.com>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD62@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I meant "long side" for the pushrods as ordered, so they could be cut
down after measuring.  Hard to lengthen the pushrods in a lathe.  Just
looking for the right length to start with...

Scott B.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Porter [mailto:mdporter at dfn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:09 PM
To: Barr, Scott
Subject: Re: [Fot] Length of Spitfire Pushrods?

On 8/17/2011 12:37 PM, Barr, Scott wrote:
> I'm assuming I
> should err on the long side, right?
>

Umm, no.  If you set the length to the long side, there's the
possibility of having them long enough that you can't get clearance even

with the adjusting screws backed out all the way, and then you burn
valves.

From WEmery7451 at aol.com  Wed Aug 17 20:35:56 2011
From: WEmery7451 at aol.com (WEmery7451 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:35:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
Message-ID: <7bb47.7c437084.3b7dd48c@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/15/11 8:30:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
wensley_tr at comcast.net writes:

<<  It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 
 
 John (JR) Herrera.   >>

This is a shame.  John is the one who encouraged me to take my crude tools 
to Charles Town, West VA, to participate in a TRA Convention three years 
ago.  I had fabricated these tools myself years ago for working on my TR-3.
</HTML>

From ac at camoletti.ch  Thu Aug 18 05:53:49 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:53:49 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll
Message-ID: <00bc01cc5d9d$7f8c46d0$7ea4d470$@camoletti.ch>

Gentlemen, re: the lip seal story : I finally opted for the Greg Solows
Chrysler seal conversion with the machined original seal holder to accept
this split seal. The diameter of the crank remains the same as stock, simply
the grooves on the crank are weld filled and polished to make a flat surface
for the seal.

duly centralised (see pix) with AREs tool (added gasket paper total 1mm
thick to make for the machined new ID of holder) and holder pressed together
with specially made tool.

Will let you know how it works when engine will be running.

Cheers!

Alex



De : Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
Envoyi : mardi 12 octobre 2010 08:38
@ : 'J.C. Hassall'; adcronin at mi.rr.com
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : RE: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll



Hi Jim ! Called yesterday this seal specialised company in Geneva, but split
lip seals are not used in the industry sot hey could not help.

But they provided an interesting info: lip compression on the shaft must be
max 10 to 12 10th of mm (1.0 to 1.2 mm). Depending on the manufacturer, but
all are within this range the engineer explained.

This means that for a shaft at 63.5, seal with the uncompressed lip must be
62.5 max ID (range 62.3-62.5).

If with this seal of 62.5 free ID the shaft is bigger than 63.5 or 63.7 OD
max, then the lip will not seat on the shaft as designed and the oil film in
between will not work and make the seal. Leaks.

Yesterday I measured the Moss seal lip when assembled and it measures
exactly at 62.5. So this is correct for a 63.5 axle.

But we have to be aware that lip seals are designed to withstand a pressure
of 0.5 bar usually. Not much. So important to relieve oil pressure on the
seal by drilling the recommended holes. Maybe fit an oil splash control
washer if possible?

So I will go for the 63.6 journal grind (this is the up tolerance leaflet
mentions) and drill the two 10mm additional holes. Maybe shorten the spring
slightly.

Cheers!

Alexandre



De : J.C. Hassall [mailto:jhassall at blacksburg.net]
Envoyi : mardi 12 octobre 2010 02:45
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Objet : Re: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll now MURPHY'S TOOL



On 10/11/2010 3:26 AM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:

Thank you Jim ! Keep us posted !

We have a specialised company here in Geneva for industry lip seals and
bearings, interesting to see what they advise. I will certainly replace the
seal provided with the kit, as it looks dubious quality (no markings, no
brand), with one from a reputable company, possibly made from Viton or some
modern material, and with double lip.

Will keep the FOT posted on my findings.

Cheers!

Alex

Good luck Alex, and by all means please keep us posted.  If there's a better
seal out there, your discovery will be welcome by all of us who got burned.

thanks,

jim





De : J.C. Hassall [mailto:jhassall at blacksburg.net]
Envoyi : samedi 9 octobre 2010 04:17
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : Re: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll now MURPHY'S TOOL



On 10/6/2010 2:17 AM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:

Question: All of you who got leaks with the 2.5'' grind drilled the
additional holes as per Moss'/Bastuck's damn instructions?

They propose/suggest to drill 2 additional holes 3/8'' to relieve pressure,
each side of the original hole in the main cap.

See drawing

Alex













Yup, I had mine drilled the same way.  And I have a reasonably good block
vent system, although I may go to an extractor system like Joe A recommends
if this go-around with the seal doesn't fix it.  If I were smart I'd trash
the crank and start over, but....

jim



--
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go





--
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go

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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Thu Aug 18 19:26:09 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 01:26:09 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Pocono SCCA National
Message-ID: <20110818.212609.10699.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Raced at Pocono this past weekend at the SCCA double National.  Got 3rd  both
days, behind a BMW 325 and and a Miata.  Sunday we had heavy rain.  I was 2nd
for most of the rain race, but the Miata got me on the last lap.

On Saturday I was behind a flaming fast Austin Healey Sprite for the 1st
couple of laps.  The flames finally melted through his shoulder harness, which
went through into the trunk, and he realized something was wrong and he pulled
off.  Fire system did not work.  It had been in the car 20 years and was never
serviced.  Emergency services got the fire out and damage did not spread
beyond the boot.  Mostly it was the composite boot lid that melted.

A video is posted on You Tube at the following link.  Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_cA824CK_4


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From deruiterville at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 19 07:55:22 2011
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:55:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>

And Hap just announced he has the LeMans style wheels now in stock at 15x6 and
15x7 sizes, in addition to the Libre style that has been out for about a
year.

Randy


>
> VTO wheels can be purchased through Acme Speed Shop in S.C. I am looking
> at some for our TR6. Call Hap Waldrop.
>
> Joe Downer
> RiffRAF Racing TR6
> Charlotte, N.C.

From lang at isis.mit.edu  Fri Aug 19 08:08:00 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:08:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote:

> And Hap just announced he has the LeMans style wheels now in stock at 15x6 and
> 15x7 sizes,

Figures. I finally put together a full set of American Racing LeMans 
wheels... it only took 16 or 17 years to get the 6" set complete!! OTOH, I 
have a lot of "history" there.

It looks like the vtoperformance.com web site doesn't show the LeMans 
wheels yet. When they do, I'll probably buy a set. They're my FAV.

regards,
rml
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Former NER Solo Chair                          |
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From deruiterville at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 19 08:50:00 2011
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:50:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, , <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	, , <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>, ,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>,
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY150-W55BA0ADB65D18E9DB6755FB92A0@phx.gbl>

Hap has a pic or maybe a computer rendering of their LeMans version posted at
the bottom of this page:
http://www.acmespeedshop.com/wheels.html


>
> It looks like the vtoperformance.com web site doesn't show the LeMans
> wheels yet. When they do, I'll probably buy a set. They're my FAV.

From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Aug 19 12:39:08 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:39:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spitfire Head Thickness?
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDB6@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I've seen a couple of lists of cylinder head thicknesses, compression
ratios, etc. floating around for the 6-cylinder cars and (I think) the
TR3/4 motors.  Any chance there's something similar out there for the
Spitfires?



I've got a later Spitfire head (god knows what year, but it's got the
air injection ports) and I'm trying to figure out its original thickness
compared to the present 2.906" thickness, so I can determine what length
pushrods to order as a starting point.



Scott B.

From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Fri Aug 19 22:56:55 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:56:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
Message-ID: <1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I saw that there were some posts on racing altenators not too long ago. 
Sorry, 
I didn't save them but now have the need.  Are there any available
that are a 
pretty easy hook up for a 1974 TR6.  Need something light and just
enough charge 
to keep the battery up.  Jim in Folsom, CA

From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sat Aug 20 21:33:01 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:33:01 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl>

John made it back to Monterey tonight -

A gritty, gutsy example of sheer determination -

Syncharitmria !


KL

From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sat Aug 20 22:32:14 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:32:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1917518838.456726.1313901134512.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Will we see John at Laguna tomorrow? 

----- Original Message -----
From: "KEVIN LYNCH" <klynch_6 at msn.com> 
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:33:01 PM 
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer! 

John made it back to Monterey tonight - 

A gritty, gutsy example of sheer determination - 

Syncharitmria ! 


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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sun Aug 21 10:11:33 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:11:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!
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He is on his way to Pebble...

Kevin
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  I saw him at the RM Auction tonight and he said he was coming to the track.
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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  Will we see John at Laguna tomorrow?

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  John made it back to Monterey tonight -

  A gritty, gutsy example of sheer determination -

  Syncharitmria !


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From igofaster at att.net  Sun Aug 21 17:35:42 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:35:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
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is it the 'classic' wheel you are referring to as LeMans style?

Bobby Whitehead




________________________________
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville at hotmail.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, August 19, 2011 9:08:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote:

> And Hap just announced he has the LeMans style wheels now in stock at 15x6 and
> 15x7 sizes,

Figures. I finally put together a full set of American Racing LeMans wheels... 
it only took 16 or 17 years to get the 6" set complete!! OTOH, I have a lot of 
"history" there.

It looks like the vtoperformance.com web site doesn't show the LeMans wheels 
yet. When they do, I'll probably buy a set. They're my FAV.

regards,
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 22 06:35:32 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:35:32 +0200
Subject: [Fot] THE Eifelrace
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As preface to the comming event:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ244OYjYvE
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ244OYjYvE&feature=player_embedded>
&feature=player_embedded
 
Cheers
Chris

From lang at isis.mit.edu  Mon Aug 22 07:43:55 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:43:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
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	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Bobby Whitehead wrote:

> is it the 'classic' wheel you are referring to as LeMans style?

No. The VTO classis 8 is a minilite reproduction. American Racing sold an 
8 spoke and called it the Silverstone, but it looks completely different 
than the Minilite and the various repro / copy minilite wheels. The Retro 
4 is a repro of the "Libre". The latest one (not illustrated on the site 
yet) is a repro of the LeMans which IS illustrated here:

http://www.acmespeedshop.com/wheels.html

(down at the bottom of the page).

> Bobby Whitehead

I hope this is clear.

FWIW, I'm not sure that American Racing had the LeMans in 13", but I could 
be wrong on that. I know they had them in 15" 'cuz I have a dozen or so of 
those. :-)

Regards,
rml
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 07:56:55 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:56:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
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	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
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Photo of an ARE Silverstone (pay no attention to the hand...):

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg which had a name of photo.jpeg]
Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red


On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Bobby Whitehead wrote:
>
>> is it the 'classic' wheel you are referring to as LeMans style?
>
> No. The VTO classis 8 is a minilite reproduction. American Racing sold an 8
spoke and called it the Silverstone, but it looks completely different than
the Minilite and the various repro / copy minilite wheels. The Retro 4 is a
repro of the "Libre". The latest one (not illustrated on the site yet) is a
repro of the LeMans which IS illustrated here:
>
> http://www.acmespeedshop.com/wheels.html
>
> (down at the bottom of the page).
>
>> Bobby Whitehead
>
> I hope this is clear.
>
> FWIW, I'm not sure that American Racing had the LeMans in 13", but I could
be wrong on that. I know they had them in 15" 'cuz I have a dozen or so of
those. :-)
>
> Regards,
> rml
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Mon Aug 22 08:16:56 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:16:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <3F4823C4-4FEA-4848-A62C-B9B180841B63@gmail.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	, <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl><BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu><1313969742.60512.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108220937360.18323@isis.mit.edu>
	<3F4823C4-4FEA-4848-A62C-B9B180841B63@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <357601cc60d6$265b3080$0301a8c0@randall>

> Photo of an ARE Silverstone (pay no attention to the hand...):
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg

Unfortunately, no photos through the list.  You'll need to put it on a web
site somewhere, and post a link.

But perhaps this is the same photo?

http://fwd4.me/09bf

-- Randall  

From lang at isis.mit.edu  Mon Aug 22 08:22:12 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:22:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
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References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
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DB Electrical

www.dbelectrical.com

Look at the NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.

It's less than $75 to your door for a brand-new alternator.

To install it, you need an upper bracket (less than $20 or the scrap pile, 
your choice) and a couple of spacers (another $10 or less at the h/w 
store) and the proper sized belt.

Electrical hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from the 
ignition switch to excite the alternator.

I put one on my race car and I love it.

regards,
rml
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Mon Aug 22 08:25:53 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:25:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <357601cc60d6$265b3080$0301a8c0@randall>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl><BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu><1313969742.60512.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108220937360.18323@isis.mit.edu>
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Randall wrote:

>> Photo of an ARE Silverstone (pay no attention to the hand...):
>>
>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg
>
> Unfortunately, no photos through the list.  You'll need to put it on a web
> site somewhere, and post a link.
>
> But perhaps this is the same photo?
>
> http://fwd4.me/09bf

yes - that's the Silverstone.

Notice how the spokes are round-ish and don't have a spine (like the 
Panasport does).

> -- Randall

regards,
rml
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 22 08:36:13 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <940450982.482320.1314023773252.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Here's the link:
http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-4720-new-chevy-mini-alternator-denso-street-rod
-race-3-wire-and0212.aspx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: "sherry robyn" <sherryjimmy6116 at att.net>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:22:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Light weight altenator

DB Electrical

www.dbelectrical.com

Look at the NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.

It's less than $75 to your door for a brand-new alternator.

To install it, you need an upper bracket (less than $20 or the scrap pile,
your choice) and a couple of spacers (another $10 or less at the h/w
store) and the proper sized belt.

Electrical hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from the
ignition switch to excite the alternator.

I put one on my race car and I love it.

regards,
rml
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From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Mon Aug 22 08:50:46 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:50:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
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Message-ID: <AA9E1AF10561421DA4EB4BBDEAFFF4E5@gdhs.local>

Look at "DB Electrical" Johnson City TN (dbelectrical.com) ey have a great
little 1-wire mini alternator...50 Amp....for $74.00.....works great on my
TR3A race car.....

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
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-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of sherry robyn
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:57 AM
To: Richard Good; MIKE DEWEERD; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator


I saw that there were some posts on racing altenators not too long ago.
Sorry,
I didn't save them but now have the need.  Are there any available that are
a
pretty easy hook up for a 1974 TR6.  Need something light and just enough
charge
to keep the battery up.  Jim in Folsom, CA
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From donmarshall at nefcom.net  Mon Aug 22 08:54:37 2011
From: donmarshall at nefcom.net (Don Marshall)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:54:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
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	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <op.v0medbqiairs7i@don-pc.belkin>

Has anyone fit this particular alternator to a Spitfire?  Any issues?  Don


On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:22:12 -0400, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>  
wrote:

> DB Electrical
>
> www.dbelectrical.com
>
> Look at the NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.
>
> It's less than $75 to your door for a brand-new alternator.
>
> To install it, you need an upper bracket (less than $20 or the scrap  
> pile, your choice) and a couple of spacers (another $10 or less at the  
> h/w store) and the proper sized belt.
>
> Electrical hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from  
> the ignition switch to excite the alternator.
>
> I put one on my race car and I love it.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Mon Aug 22 08:55:06 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:55:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDFA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I'm going to have my stock flywheel lightened and am looking for
suggestions for a good weight for my Spitfire 1500 flywheel.



Scott B.

From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon Aug 22 09:12:30 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:12:30 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
References: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDFA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
Message-ID: <6A4BD6B57C424885A54FA3911330A28F@Charly>

Have you thought of getting a lightened flywheel, they're much safer.
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/8080/Aluminum%20Flywheel%201500%20
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500


> I'm going to have my stock flywheel lightened and am looking for
> suggestions for a good weight for my Spitfire 1500 flywheel.
>
>
>
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Mon Aug 22 09:15:51 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:15:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [BULK]  Re:  Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
In-Reply-To: <6A4BD6B57C424885A54FA3911330A28F@Charly>
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Yes, I have thought about it, and have an aluminum flywheel for the good
1296 motor.  This was my (formerly) stock-ish 1500cc backup motor.  It's
gotten a few upgrades now and I'm just looking to shave a little weight
off the flywheel - nothing too extreme.  This motor won't be revved much
past stock in any case.  (and I've got a nice ballistic scatter blanket
:-)

Scott

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To: Barr, Scott; fot at autox.team.net
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Importance: Low

Have you thought of getting a lightened flywheel, they're much safer.
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/8080/Aluminum%20Flywheel%201500%
20
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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> I'm going to have my stock flywheel lightened and am looking for
> suggestions for a good weight for my Spitfire 1500 flywheel.
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From pvucinic at netspace.net.au  Mon Aug 22 14:21:22 2011
From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:21:22 +1000
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel
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Dear lister's,

 

I am wondering whether any member shave fitted a quick release steering
wheel hub/mechanism to their TR7/8? If so, what brand etc. was used as I am
looking at this option as well. No use reinventing the wheel (pardon the
pun) if we don't have to!

 

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR-4

TR7 V8

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Aug 22 14:31:34 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:31:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel
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I have fitted one to my TR7 racer. I used a TR8 alloy wheel, made up an
aluminum plate to bolt to the back which in turn is bolted to the quick
release hub. The quick release nut was just welded onto the stock steering
wheel shaft. You can see the set up at the end of this video that I posted
after I got the car running the first time. The quick release hub and nut
are just the generic type you can buy, got mine on Ebay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlhjL9wC_Kw


Paul



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Sent: August 22, 2011 4:21 PM
To: 'Friends of Triumph'
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel

Dear lister's,

 

I am wondering whether any member shave fitted a quick release steering
wheel hub/mechanism to their TR7/8? If so, what brand etc. was used as I am
looking at this option as well. No use reinventing the wheel (pardon the
pun) if we don't have to!

 

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

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TR7 V8

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Aug 22 14:56:01 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:56:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nice custom TR6
Message-ID: <002401cc610d$e70f9910$b52ecb30$@rogers.com>

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/2559110082.html

 

workmanship is terrific.

 

Paul

From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Aug 22 19:11:40 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:11:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Grattan wrap up
Message-ID: <CALCydYo-kZR+wLJSgdS+D8yuCgGPtChOaqOwgiNPAe2xq+kG+A@mail.gmail.com>

Some quick highlights from the Midwest:

Bill Dentinger was holding off a bunch of Sprites and other Triumphs for
several laps in the sprint race and it was a real sight to see him dive bomb
a bugeye after "the jump" Bill you still have it!

Dennis DeLap's TVR 2200S Is really a beautiful car. Look for this thing at a
track near you! The fact that this car exists out of a vision in his mind to
emulate the cars he loved as a kid is inspirational to say the least. This
home built classic is a sight to behold and really captures some unique
glimpses of days gone by.

Similarly, Tim and Ryan Murphy have really outdone themselves as far as
preparation goes! Their car is really well prepped and they surely make it
clear from their presentation that they do not plan on being beaten by
equipment. Ryan had a real good go from my viewpoint passing many cars and
getting faster all weekend.

Tony Drews... In a class by himself. dominating group two with fast times
and solid podium finishes. Nice job Tony... doing us proud!

Bob Wismer... Solid runs having fun in his TR4 and getting philosophical
about tractor development at the well attended Beady Eye "wine and cheese"
-thanks guys!

Me: I feel good! It was a looong weekend for me. After replacing the entire
middle section of my car over the last month. (new custom flywheel, new
trick clutch, rebuilt my starter, new bellhousing etc... I was a little
nervous going in and quickly became one with the track and car. Everything
was working and I was going fast... for about 15 laps. Then in typical GT6
nonsense... I lost 3rd gear in a rattling grind of disaster. I went back to
the paddock and took the trans apart to find 3rd gear with only 2 teeth on
it. After consulting my peers and in a effort to Never be Beaten By
Equipment... I drove home 3 1/2 hours to steal a trans from my dad's street
car. I snagged it and drove 3 1/2 hours back to the track. I prepped the
trans and pulled my old one finishing at 1:30am. Got up early and installed
the new one! I only missed one Qualifying Session. The car worked great and
starting from the back of the pack for three races on Sunday. I drove the
car to a personal best time for the track finishing at about the middle in
group 8 and in the middle of the Trans - Am race. This is my hobby. I race a
Triumph GT6.

A great weekend for all us Triumph Guys!

Thanks for listening.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

From John.Reed at wilson.com  Tue Aug 23 06:22:12 2011
From: John.Reed at wilson.com (Reed, John)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:22:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nice custom TR6
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Message-ID: <CA7905A4.83A5%John.Reed@wilson.com>

WOW! I want it!




On 8/22/11 3:56 PM, "Paul MacDonald" <macdonaldp at rogers.com> wrote:

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/2559110082.html



workmanship is terrific.



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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Tue Aug 23 08:10:19 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:10:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nice custom TR6
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	That car was recently featured on BringATrailer.com  Very
interesting


	build, and lots of time and effort invested.  The bumpers are kinda


	tacky, and the cage is a bit strange, but overall it must be a neat


	car to drive.


	 


	John


	 


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From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Aug 23 08:32:30 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:32:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Grattan wrap up
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In a message dated 08/22/2011 8:18:43 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> <<< Bill Dentinger was holding off a bunch of Sprites and other Triumphs 
> for
> several laps in the sprint race and it was a real sight to see him dive 
> bomb
> a bugeye after "the jump" Bill you still have it! >>>
> 

That part of the track is down hill, and I weigh 100 pounds more than those 
drivers...so I'm actually very fast...going down hill.  My new engine is 
awesome (89 vice 87 mm pistons...flat top, but a custom design).  Grattan is 
my favorite track, and Ole Blue was full of torque coming up hill out of Turn 
4 (a turn I call the Stool Softener), and also up hill coming out of the 
Turn 9 hair pin.  But alas, arthritis in my knees and hips prevents me from 
being competitive.  I had a ball.

Two other Grattan comments:  

1.  There was a VIOLENT rain storm on Saturday afternoon.  Buckets of rain 
water being driven horizontal by very high winds.  This wiped out several 
race team paddocks (tents, tarps, etc.).  The storm only lasted twenty minutes 
or so, but it also knocked out the track's electrical service, so racing 
could not resume.  The track staff quickly brought an old (i.e. vintage) Allis 
Chalmers tractor out of the barn and used its PTO to run a generator.  
Timing and scoring was back in business.  But it was already 2:45 PM and there 
was standing water in several areas of the track and so the balance of racing 
for the day was canceled.

2.  There was a scary incident during the track Touring session on Sunday.  
A gorgeous, highly prepared (read enhanced) Porsche 550 Spyder (replica) 
lost its brakes going into turn 1.  Grattan used to be a drag strip and the 
front straight is long and fast.  Turn 1 is a bad place to be without brakes.  
They slammed into the tire wall bruising the body up.  Oh yeah...the reason 
why this is particularly interesting is the fact that the Event's Driver's 
Coach, David Jones, was driving.  He was introduced as having more times 
going backwards at Grattan than the Event Chair had going forward.  He is a 
great driver, and a good instructor, ...and he added to his 'going backwards 
record' on Sunday during Touring.  And then to add insult to injury, the 
Event's banquet speaker, semi-pro Race Team owner, Reed Smith was in the 
passenger seat.  Take a lesson racers...it is very hard to resist showing off, and 
that can make Touring very dangerous.

BUT as always, Vintage Grand Prix au Grattan was fantastic.

Bill Dentinger

From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Tue Aug 23 09:09:27 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:09:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel
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I used a $50 3/4" splined unit available from Jegs. It is available in
either a 3 or 5 hub bolt pattern.  Pegasus has a similar unit that uses a
slotted hex shaft with a pin release....

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Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel


Dear lister's,



I am wondering whether any member shave fitted a quick release steering
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looking at this option as well. No use reinventing the wheel (pardon the
pun) if we don't have to!





Thank you in advance.







Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR-4

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug 23 20:55:42 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:55:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR4A stuff
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Marv Gruber is offering TWO drivetrains and a TR4A.

If anyone is looking for major components, this might make sense.

Marv is knowledgeable and is familiar with shipping large components.

He is located in Alabama.



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To: N197TR4 <N197TR4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:21 pm
Subject: TR4A stuff


 Joe,
How are your, busy like the rest of us.

I recently bought a bunch of TR4A stuff. Two complete drive lines. Both with
the solid axle diffs.
Late engines engines (CT 64414E & CT 65410E, both with the # 511695 alum push
rod tubes)  One is free the other is stuck. Do you know anyone looking for one
right now. Also have a complete 66 TR4a solid car to sell as well. Looks rough
but would make good racer. Engine runs. $4000 for it.

Marv

From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Aug 24 07:42:56 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:42:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Re; TR6 at SCCA Solo Nats
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240938110.4275@isis.mit.edu>

Hi,

I was perusing the 2011 Solo Nationals entrants lists last night and low 
and behold - I see a TR6 in FP.

As a person that really, really, really wants to be there next week (*) 
(and also a person that really, really, really, really needs to keep my 
day job) I would like to say "good luck and have a lot of fun. I wish I 
was there too".

(*)my boss thinks otherwise. The jerk.  :-)

I didn't get a chance to look at the complete list, but I assume there'll 
be some Triumph iron in GP and maybe even FSP. In any case - good luck to 
all.

I hope to be there next year. Really!

rml
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Aug 24 07:52:11 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:52:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Black Salt Racing
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240951430.4275@isis.mit.edu>

Hey,

check out:

www.blacksaltracing.com

Does anybody know these folks? If not, maybe we should reach out to them.

I won't post any spoilers. Check it out.

regards,
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Wed Aug 24 11:50:49 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:50:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
Message-ID: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?

 

Thanks,

Tim

From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 24 15:36:20 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:36:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
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Tim,



No, the diaphragm clutch requires a shorter transmission nose piece.



Ed



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To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:50:49 PM
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?

B 

Thanks,

Tim

From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Wed Aug 24 16:15:49 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:15:49 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <1944361533.638210.1314221780100.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<1944361533.638210.1314221780100.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1bcc01cc62ab$61bbd090$253371b0$@rr.com>

> No, the diaphragm clutch requires a shorter transmission nose piece.

I agree, but the nose piece (aka input housing) can be shortened with a
hacksaw or similar.  Just cut off about 3/8" and deburr/round the edges a
bit.

Otherwise, the "diaphragm" fingers will hit the nose piece when the clutch
pedal is depressed.

-- Randall 

From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Aug 24 17:14:35 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:14:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
Message-ID: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>

Dear FOTers,

Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
opportunity to install a LSD.

It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).

I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
not know the influence of the set up parameters.

I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:

1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
with disc type (oil quantity and heat)

2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60

3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
interlocking?

4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?

5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
application?

6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
worthwhile?

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti

From walt at hot-tr6.com  Wed Aug 24 18:16:14 2011
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:16:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
Message-ID: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>

I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska next week. I will
be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue and my number is
73. 

I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing on the 29th and racing
on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this

Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing you
there.

Walt Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico

From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Aug 24 19:10:34 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:10:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Black Salt Racing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240951430.4275@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240951430.4275@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <0DEA5142-D5AD-4DA8-9E8D-DBC16441B462@me.com>

here's what the guy posted about the car on another Triumph site.  Apparently someone challenged the classification, saying the GT6 was offered as a four seater.  The challenge was denied and a "Triumph" has the record for fastest modified sportscar in this class.

"Speed trials such as Bonneville use a classification system that is based on three main factors: chassis and level of mods to it, Engine Size, Fuel. You can use any combination to arrive at a class. The car I am referring to is a Modified Sportscar meaning that it is based on a production two seater. From the firewall back the car must be original except the roof can be chopped (lowered). Forward of that almost anything goes. The car is a 360ci Aluminum Brodix with two turbos on methanol. Not going to please the GT6 purist but it will make a gearhead do a double take and grin."

On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:

Hey,

check out:

www.blacksaltracing.com

Does anybody know these folks? If not, maybe we should reach out to them.

I won't post any spoilers. Check it out.

regards,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 24 21:19:30 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:19:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
In-Reply-To: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
References: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
Message-ID: <8CE30ECEFF52C50-3404-29F86@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

Brendan would want to be on your crew.....





-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Hollowell <walt at hot-tr6.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:25 pm
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals


I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska next week. I will
be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue and my number is
73.

I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing on the 29th and racing
on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this

Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing you
there.

Walt Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Wed Aug 24 21:29:56 2011
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
References: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
Message-ID: <2CE9AC49F3434BB999FB40492FCFC26C@rocky>

Hey, Walt. First, welcome to the Solo Nationals!  :-D

But maybe I should help you get up to date on a few things  :-)

It isn't "Solo II" any more, hasn't been since about 2004 or so. But yeah, a 
lot of people still say that. It all changed when Solo I moved under the 
club race banner and became Time Trials.

And of course we don't "practice" as such, although you can spend all day on 
the 29th if you want walking the courses.

Most important, check the schedule. FP is a Tuesday-Wednesday class. 
Specifically, you drive the East Course Tuesday, the West Course 
Wednesday -- 3rd heat both days. Sure wouldn't want you to miss your runs.

I'll be there in my GP Spitfire, #4 -- also blue ... and yellow. Glad to see 
a big TR there. Not many left.

--Rocky Entriken
  (Yes, I am Thu-Fri, 4th heat.)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Walter Hollowell" <walt at hot-tr6.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals


> I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska next week. I will
> be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue and my number 
> is
> 73.
>
> I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing on the 29th and 
> racing
> on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this
>
> Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing 
> you
> there.
>
> Walt Hollowell
>
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Aug 24 22:31:46 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:31:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <20110825043214.4C07518764A@autox.team.net>

Phantom Grip has had pretty poor reviews on the forums I participate 
in.  Quaiffe will be long lasting and low to no maintenance.  As long 
as both rear tires are on the ground, I really like it.  However, 
lift the inside rear wheel in cornering and you'll get some spin of that wheel.

Can't answer any of the Salisbury questions other than Tran-X being 
pretty much the only source that I know of for them.  For RACING, 
with my driving style (not nearly as smooth in the corners as Jack 
was), the Salisbury would be the way to go.  I would expect to wear 
out the clutches occasionally though.  For street use, I wouldn't 
hesitate to use a Quaiffe.  I would expect for the finned cover to be 
unnecessary for street use.  For race use, anything you can do to 
keep them cool is probably a good thing.

Tony Drews

At 06:14 PM 8/24/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Dear FOTers,
>
>Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
>opportunity to install a LSD.
>
>It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
>rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
>real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
>not know the influence of the set up parameters.
>
>I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
>1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
>does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
>with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>
>2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60
>
>3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
>interlocking?
>
>4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
>manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
>Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?
>
>5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
>increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
>application?
>
>6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
>worthwhile?
>
>Thank you in advance for your feedback!
>
>With kind regards
>
>Alex Camoletti
>_______________________________________________
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>
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From spitlist at cox.net  Thu Aug 25 08:19:22 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:19:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <20110825043214.4C07518764A@autox.team.net>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
	<20110825043214.4C07518764A@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <73562B03CEBD471388546181A3031BA8@Vista>

Having tried a Phantom Grip (Thanks Steve) I can say that I could not tell
any difference between that and an open diff, even with much stiffer springs
installed.  My conclusion was that any perceived advantage that it has is
just "Phantom"!

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:32 PM
To: Alexandre Camoletti; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Phantom Grip has had pretty poor reviews on the forums I participate 
in.  Quaiffe will be long lasting and low to no maintenance.  As long 
as both rear tires are on the ground, I really like it.  However, 
lift the inside rear wheel in cornering and you'll get some spin of that
wheel.

Can't answer any of the Salisbury questions other than Tran-X being 
pretty much the only source that I know of for them.  For RACING, 
with my driving style (not nearly as smooth in the corners as Jack 
was), the Salisbury would be the way to go.  I would expect to wear 
out the clutches occasionally though.  For street use, I wouldn't 
hesitate to use a Quaiffe.  I would expect for the finned cover to be 
unnecessary for street use.  For race use, anything you can do to 
keep them cool is probably a good thing.

Tony Drews

At 06:14 PM 8/24/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Dear FOTers,
>
>Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take
the
>opportunity to install a LSD.
>
>It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
>rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
>real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
>not know the influence of the set up parameters.
>
>I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
>1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
>does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
>with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>
>2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60
>
>3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
>interlocking?
>
>4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
>manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
>Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?
>
>5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
>increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
>application?
>
>6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
>worthwhile?
>
>Thank you in advance for your feedback!
>
>With kind regards
>
>Alex Camoletti
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>
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From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Thu Aug 25 10:38:13 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:38:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
In-Reply-To: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
References: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
Message-ID: <1314290293.78277.YahooMailRC@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Walter,

What are some of the things you have done to your 70 TR6?

Jim
________________________________
From: Walter Hollowell <walt at hot-tr6.com>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, August 24, 2011 5:16:14 PM
Subject: [Fot] SCCA
Solo II Nationals

I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska
next week. I will
be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue
and my number is
73. 

I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing
on the 29th and racing
on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this
Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing you
there.

Walt Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 25 10:48:34 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:48:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Anyone know this car?
Message-ID: <1314290914.79646.YahooMailNeo@web114714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Interesting looking, to say the least.  Just curious if anyone knows the car
(not personally interested, too many projects already)...
 
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/2563322734.html

From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Thu Aug 25 15:18:24 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:18:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
Message-ID: <000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>

Thanks to all who responded.  The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
length.
	The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that engages
the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
	Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the clutch
parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
Moss catalogs.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?

 

Thanks,

Tim
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From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Thu Aug 25 15:55:54 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:55:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
Message-ID: <1d4701cc6371$cc27dac0$64779040$@rr.com>

> 	Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the
> clutch
> parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to
> the
> Moss catalogs.

I don't believe that is correct, Tim, unless I am misunderstanding you.  The
flywheel, friction plate, throwout bearing, TOB carrier, gearbox front cover
(where the carrier rides) and operating shaft all changed.  Even the
bearings that the operating shaft rides in were changed at some point!  

ISTR the only parts that didn't change were the operating fork, taper pin
and the pins that engage the carrier.  And even the fork casting actually
changed, it's just that the later one will fit the earlier setup.

Oh yeah, the slave cylinder changed too (although Moss doesn't show it).
The slave for the diaphragm clutch is supposed to have a spring inside it,
while the finger clutch does not.  The adjustable pushrod was also changed
to a fixed one (since the later setup does not require adjustment).  

There was also a different slave used on cars with front drum brakes
(Lockheed rather than Girling).

-- Randall 

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 25 17:04:52 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:04:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
Message-ID: <8CE319287E24AD4-1CB4-1E250@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>

it would seem that the latter sleeve would be the shorter one.

due to running amuck of the the fingers.

i think i encountered this about 25 years ago on my TR3A

and since then on the early TR4 when converting to later clutch.






-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Murphy <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: 'Tim Murphy' <timmurph at fastbytes.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4


Thanks to all who responded.  The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
length.
	The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that engages
the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
	Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the clutch
parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
Moss catalogs.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?



Thanks,

Tim
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Thu Aug 25 19:16:20 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:16:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <8CE319287E24AD4-1CB4-1E250@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <998386033.708248.1314321380839.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I don't think he was "talking" about the nose piece.

----- Original Message -----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
To: timmurph at fastbytes.com, fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:04:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

it would seem that the latter sleeve would be the shorter one.

due to running amuck of the the fingers.

i think i encountered this about 25 years ago on my TR3A

and since then on the early TR4 when converting to later clutch.






-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Murphy <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: 'Tim Murphy' <timmurph at fastbytes.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4


Thanks to all who responded. B The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
length.
B B B B B B B B The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that
engages
the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
B B B B B B B B Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the
clutch
parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
Moss catalogs.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?



Thanks,

Tim
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From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com  Thu Aug 25 21:47:37 2011
From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
Message-ID: <AAF16F0FD5284A8A81D6D0AFB5CB11A0@TER2>

The finger and the diaphragm clutches use different release bearings. The 
flywheels are also drilled differently. The finger type uses a 9 inch 
diameter disc and the pressure plate uses two alignment dowels. The 
diaphragm clutch uses an 8 1/2 inch disc and the pressure plate uses three 
alignment dowels. \ 
Greg Solow
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Murphy" <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: "'Tim Murphy'" <timmurph at fastbytes.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4


> Thanks to all who responded.  The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
> the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
> style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
> length.
> The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that engages
> the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
> transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
> Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the clutch
> parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
> Moss catalogs.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Tim Murphy
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
>
> Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with 
> the
> "three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
> bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
> later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
> use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 03:08:39 2011
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
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Message-ID: <4E576297.5040208@gmail.com>

On 8/24/11 4:14 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
> It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
> rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>
> I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
> 1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
> does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
> with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>    
Paragraph #1 - Winter, wet, snow.

A Quaife requires rolling resistance to both wheels in order to work.  
The slipping wheel needs to provide some resistance.  A wheel in the air 
or a total lack of rolling resistance from ice can foil and otherwise 
brilliant design.  If you were like most people and keeping the TR under 
cover and hibernating during the snow I would suggest the Quaife as it 
is smooth and you never notice it is there except the rear end is not as 
squirrely.   Had one on the fornt of my Land Rover for 2 decades before 
replaing it with a Trutrac.
>
> 5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
> increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
> application?
>    
Paragraph #1 - "for l*ong distance* road rallies in various conditions"

The Salisbury type generates more heat than an open diff and I believe 
more than a Quaife would.  Over long hard driving distances that heat 
can build up and potentially cause problems.  Thanks to Greg, my TR now 
has a TRAN-X.  It also has a cast diff cover with increased oil 
capacity.  A TRAN-X is not cheap and the extra cooling capacity is good 
insurance in my book.
> 6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
> worthwhile?
>    

There was a lot of interest in Phantom Grip a year or two back and I 
remember that a few people tried it and reported that the Phantom was 
just that.  A phantom grip.  No perceived improvement other than in the 
seller's bank balance.

Teriann

Whose TR's rear end doesn't dance like it used to when you punch it hard 
coming out of a tight curve.

From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 06:13:55 2011
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:13:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: RE:  LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
Message-ID: <4E578E03.50404@gmail.com>

I think this was meant to go to the group as a whole and not me since I 
already have a limited slip.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	RE: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
Date: 	Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:57:08 +0100
From: 	Tony Sheach <tr4.tony at virgin.net>
Reply-To: 	<tr4.tony at virgin.net>
Organization: 	tr4.tony
To: 	'TeriAnn J. Wakeman' <tjwakeman at gmail.com>



TeriAnn

In that case my choice would be the TRANX plate type diff, with a 4,33:1
CW&P ..... if you need any help sourcing those I can organise it here in the
UK with one supplier and get them to deal direct. You will also get a good
price from them as they support me.

Regards Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: 26 August 2011 10:09
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

On 8/24/11 4:14 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>  It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance
>  road rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>
>  I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
>  1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
>  does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems
>  associated with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>
Paragraph #1 - Winter, wet, snow.

A Quaife requires rolling resistance to both wheels in order to work.
The slipping wheel needs to provide some resistance.  A wheel in the air or
a total lack of rolling resistance from ice can foil and otherwise brilliant
design.  If you were like most people and keeping the TR under cover and
hibernating during the snow I would suggest the Quaife as it is smooth and
you never notice it is there except the rear end is not as
squirrely.   Had one on the fornt of my Land Rover for 2 decades before
replaing it with a Trutrac.
>
>  5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted
to
>  increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
>  application?
>
Paragraph #1 - "for l*ong distance* road rallies in various conditions"

The Salisbury type generates more heat than an open diff and I believe more
than a Quaife would.  Over long hard driving distances that heat can build
up and potentially cause problems.  Thanks to Greg, my TR now has a TRAN-X.
It also has a cast diff cover with increased oil capacity.  A TRAN-X is not
cheap and the extra cooling capacity is good insurance in my book.
>  6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
>  worthwhile?
>

There was a lot of interest in Phantom Grip a year or two back and I
remember that a few people tried it and reported that the Phantom was just
that.  A phantom grip.  No perceived improvement other than in the seller's
bank balance.

Teriann

Whose TR's rear end doesn't dance like it used to when you punch it hard
coming out of a tight curve.
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From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Fri Aug 26 07:43:25 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:43:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Compression ratios
Message-ID: <0D862D48F19A4789863B7E71C968DC17@gdhs.local>

A while back, Mark Bradakis sent out a chart showing head thickness to
compression ratios for GT6 motors and in the chain of replies, Chris Marx
reported that the stock head thickness for a TR4 was 84.2 mm or 3.31 inches.
I note from Mark's chart that a GT6's head thickness of 3.31 inches = 10.75
compression ratio.  Question: are the various head thickness/compression
figures for the GT6 the same as for the TR4?  Or, better still, does anyone
have similar figures for the TR4?

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
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Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
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From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Fri Aug 26 07:59:10 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 06:59:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Compression ratios
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Hi John,
In addition to milling down a racing cyl head, more work is done to  
the head to grind and smooth-out material in the combustion chamber of  
the head around the valves.  Since this work is done by hand, every  
single head is a little different.
The only way to know for sure is to "CC" the head.  On my head, for  
example, it has .180 milled off the bottom surface but the chamber was  
opened up to to optimize the shape of the combustion area.  The  
milling increases the CR but the other head work decreased the CR.  I  
run 11.2 to 1 with .180 milled off.
The other variable is the thickness of the head-gasket when  
compressed.  The steel shim HG gets smooshed down to .022 when the  
head is torqued down.  This is about as small as it gets.  This .022  
height, creates a volume with my 87mm pistons, it's like adding .022  
to the top of the cylinder.  A thicker HG (head gasket) adds more  
volume to the combustion chamber.  Next time, when the Head is out of  
the car, CC the head as per the instructions in Kas' book.  It's easy.
Here's an online formula to calculate the CR

http://www.csgnetwork.com/compcalc.html

~STEVE



On Aug 26, 2011, at 6:43 AM, John Hasty wrote:

A while back, Mark Bradakis sent out a chart showing head thickness to
compression ratios for GT6 motors and in the chain of replies, Chris  
Marx
reported that the stock head thickness for a TR4 was 84.2 mm or 3.31  
inches.
I note from Mark's chart that a GT6's head thickness of 3.31 inches =  
10.75
compression ratio.  Question: are the various head thickness/compression
figures for the GT6 the same as for the TR4?  Or, better still, does  
anyone
have similar figures for the TR4?

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Fri Aug 26 08:12:18 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:12:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] brake lines
Message-ID: <2CD50472854C44EEB761B2E7AD63848A@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old British
cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
already made up?
    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
flares?
    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines to
match the British fittings, without much success.
    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell me
the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd like to
flare my own.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is going?
    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it on
the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van days!

From ac at camoletti.ch  Fri Aug 26 10:04:08 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:04:08 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Compression ratios
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Message-ID: <001801cc6409$c9c90720$5d5b1560$@camoletti.ch>

HI John ! I milled 0.118 from my head (was 100% before, never skimmed) and
got 10.5 (corresponding to calculations).
But I made the chamfers in the chamber'side as per Kas' guidelines, so that
adds volume (approx. 2cc, as anticipated by calculation also).
So if you mill .118'' without chamfering from plain stock thickness then CR
may be above 11.
Then it depends how high the valves sit in the chamber, and what valves you
have (this can impact 1-2cc per chamber)
Also if you chamfer the plug hole, this adds volume.
Re headgasket, the volume it creates it often more than we think as you have
to calculate it not by multiplying the bore surface by gasket thickness but
the effective bore of the gasket itself, which often is quite a bit larger
than the round bore of the liner. Use school paper with squares to draw the
gasket bore on it, then count the squares and do the maths you'll get the
surface (each "non full" square count 1/2 square the small and big halves
will compensate each other quite well, this is the usual practice).
To be more precise I can check my handwritten chart if you wish, as I
calculated then measured all these parameters, it is in the shop with the
engine building file.
Let me know!
Alex

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de John Hasty
Envoyi : vendredi 26 ao{t 2011 15:43
@ : 'Friends of Triumph'
Objet : [Fot] Compression ratios

A while back, Mark Bradakis sent out a chart showing head thickness to
compression ratios for GT6 motors and in the chain of replies, Chris Marx
reported that the stock head thickness for a TR4 was 84.2 mm or 3.31 inches.
I note from Mark's chart that a GT6's head thickness of 3.31 inches = 10.75
compression ratio.  Question: are the various head thickness/compression
figures for the GT6 the same as for the TR4?  Or, better still, does anyone
have similar figures for the TR4?

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
Tele: (704) 372-5600
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From triosan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 11:20:02 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:20:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>

Having finally just read Kas' new book, and having talked to Joe at the
Laguna Cup race, I decided to install a crankcase evacuator system.  So now:

1. I have a Triumphtune Rocker cover.  There is a hole for the vent, but no
filtering whatsoever.  Will I get a lot of oil/mist sucked into the
exhaust?
2. If so, what is a good solution.  The breather cap that came with the Kit
[from Mr Gasket] will not fit under the hood with the hose attached even if
I put it as close as possible to the firewall [TR6].
3. Since these kits are for a V8 I have half of one left over.  Glad to
share it with anyone desiring to do this modification.

Thanks,


-- 
Chuck Arnold

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 26 11:57:01 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:01 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc6419$92226770$b6673650$@com>

Hi Chuck,

I've glued a shield in place to have no mist.
I don't use a breather cap just the normal cap that came with the cover.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
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Auftrag von Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2011 19:20
An: Friends
Betreff: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question

Having finally just read Kas' new book, and having talked to Joe at the
Laguna Cup race, I decided to install a crankcase evacuator system.  So now:

1. I have a Triumphtune Rocker cover.  There is a hole for the vent, but no
filtering whatsoever.  Will I get a lot of oil/mist sucked into the
exhaust?
2. If so, what is a good solution.  The breather cap that came with the Kit
[from Mr Gasket] will not fit under the hood with the hose attached even if
I put it as close as possible to the firewall [TR6].
3. Since these kits are for a V8 I have half of one left over.  Glad to
share it with anyone desiring to do this modification.

Thanks,


--
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From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Fri Aug 26 12:06:10 2011
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:10 +0100
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
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References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <64B1E32E1A0C423E828A3ED0BE1281A0@homekeith>

Here is my view.

I run Salisbury LSDs in both my TR4 and my TR6, both cars have 3.9:1 and
4.1:1 ratio CWPs.

In the TR4 the LSDs are virtually maintenance free and do exactly what they
need to do on the track. TR4 has 147 bhp at the rear wheels.

In the TR6 the LSDs need to be rebuilt after every 5 hours of track time and
it is always the clutches that need replacing; rebuild kits are around #100
GBP and it takes 3-4 hours labour. The TR6 puts out 207 bhp at the wheels.

I have recently installed a Gripper LSD in one of the diffs for the TR6;
these are manufactured by Gripper in the UK and are designed by the guy who
originally designed the Salisbury that is manufactured by Tran X but has
taken them further by making them stronger in a number of areas which,
according to them, will result in low levels of maintenance at a lower cost
as well. I am running this LSD at the Nurburgring Nordschleife 3 hour race
in early September to prove it fully; it has already run faultlessly at
Silverstone.

The Gripper costs c #700 GBP + VAT (tax) making it #840 GBP in total.

I will provide a write up and further details on the unit itself after the
event if there is any interest.

Cheers,

Keith.









-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: 25 August 2011 00:15
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Dear FOTers,

Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
opportunity to install a LSD.

It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).

I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
not know the influence of the set up parameters.

I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:

1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
with disc type (oil quantity and heat)

2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60

3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
interlocking?

4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?

5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
application?

6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
worthwhile?

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 26 12:19:02 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:19:02 +0200
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <64B1E32E1A0C423E828A3ED0BE1281A0@homekeith>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
	<64B1E32E1A0C423E828A3ED0BE1281A0@homekeith>
Message-ID: <000901cc641c$a4bdb620$ee392260$@com>

And for the cheap side of life:

I run a welded diff for several years now and feel very fine with it.
In two weeks from now it can be seen in action on the Nordschleife.

It is maintenance free.

Cheers
Chris


-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Keith Files
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2011 20:06
An: 'Alexandre Camoletti'
Cc: 'FoT Triumph'
Betreff: Re: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Here is my view.

I run Salisbury LSDs in both my TR4 and my TR6, both cars have 3.9:1 and
4.1:1 ratio CWPs.

In the TR4 the LSDs are virtually maintenance free and do exactly what they
need to do on the track. TR4 has 147 bhp at the rear wheels.

In the TR6 the LSDs need to be rebuilt after every 5 hours of track time and
it is always the clutches that need replacing; rebuild kits are around #100
GBP and it takes 3-4 hours labour. The TR6 puts out 207 bhp at the wheels.

I have recently installed a Gripper LSD in one of the diffs for the TR6;
these are manufactured by Gripper in the UK and are designed by the guy who
originally designed the Salisbury that is manufactured by Tran X but has
taken them further by making them stronger in a number of areas which,
according to them, will result in low levels of maintenance at a lower cost
as well. I am running this LSD at the Nurburgring Nordschleife 3 hour race
in early September to prove it fully; it has already run faultlessly at
Silverstone.

The Gripper costs c #700 GBP + VAT (tax) making it #840 GBP in total.

I will provide a write up and further details on the unit itself after the
event if there is any interest.

Cheers,

Keith.









-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: 25 August 2011 00:15
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Dear FOTers,

Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
opportunity to install a LSD.

It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).

I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
not know the influence of the set up parameters.

I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:

1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
with disc type (oil quantity and heat)

2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60

3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
interlocking?

4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?

5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
application?

6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
worthwhile?

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti
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From triosan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 12:36:24 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:36:24 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>

I could easily do that setup as I have a catch tank in place now.
BUT... How would negative pressure work in such a case as I would be sucking
on the tank with an opening to the atmosphere and I do not understand how
any negative pressure would get applied to the crankcase.

If Iran the evacuator line to a non-vented tank then to the rocker cover
[with a cover over the vent hole like Christian showed to stop directly
sucking into the hose] then I think it would work.  The evacuator uses 5/8
inch line -- which I believe is AN10.

Thoughts everyone?



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With a crankcase evac, you'll have negative pressure present, so if you tap
> into the valve cover, you'll pull oil mist out. Another way to do this
> without sucking all the oil from the engine is to set up a system where the
> valve cover vent line goes to a tank of some sort that has the evacuator on
> one tap and there is also a vent to atmospere. That way, if the engine
> starts blowing oil, it goes to the tank but not necessarily all out the
> tailpipe.
>
> The goodparts oil seperator is a good way of doing this, but you may find
> the capacity to be on the small side. So another way of doing it would be to
> use the goodparts setup with a larger tank...
>
> I run a PCV setup on my car. I have the neg. pressure source as the INTAKE
> (there's a tap on the Cannon Weber manifold). This gives me negative
> pressure on the overrun only. If the crankcase pressurizes, it vents to the
> catch tank (which is vented to atmosphere). The key here is that when
> there's lots of oil present in the valve cover - it "blows" into the catch
> tank, but when I lift, the oil vapor can get sucked back through the into
> the intake (and burned off). With this setup, I get a small amount of oil in
> the catch tank when I run the motor to stupid revs (like 7000+), but no
> excessive leaks anywhere.
>
> To your question on the breather - I wouldn't use the oil filler cap as the
> breather (along with the fitment issuse you mentioned (like fouling on the
> bonnet)). Use the catch tank as the breather. That way you don't have to
> worry about saturating the breather filter and the potential fire hazard
> that presents. The key here is that on a long hi-RPM run, you get a LOT of
> oil in the valve cover and there's a good chance that that oil will find its
> way out. I don't like valve cover breather filters cuz they seem to fill
> with oil and then drip (or worse) and you get oil everywhere.
>
> On the size of the hose(s) from the valve cover - go with TWO AN8 or AN10
> lines if you can.
>
> regards,
> rml
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
>



-- 
Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley

From donmarshall at nefcom.net  Fri Aug 26 12:40:59 2011
From: donmarshall at nefcom.net (Don Marshall)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:40:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Alternator Refit
In-Reply-To: <E8C6E35047EA4F41A1E580C2FF98B8F3@gdhs.local>
References: <E8C6E35047EA4F41A1E580C2FF98B8F3@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <op.v0t3il1vairs7i@don-pc.belkin>

I just got this same alternator from DB Electrical, but neither of the  
large pulleys that I have on hand will fit on it without some serious  
modification since the shaft only sticks out of the housing a small  
amount.  What oversized pulley are others using with these?  I have a  
Moroso 5" that fits perfectly on a regular GM alternator and another  
unidentified 5"  but neither will fit without machine work that will cost  
as much as the alternator did.  Thanks, Don

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:32:50 -0400, John Hasty <jhhasty at gdhs.com> wrote:

> I know this might be a bit late, but for all who may encounter this  
> problem
> in the future, DB Electrical in Johnson City TN offers a 50 amp small
> alternator (4'' x 4.5") with mounting hole centers @5 3/8" under the  
> name of
> "Denso Chevy Street Rod Race".  The other nice thing is that it's a one  
> wire
> alternator, even I knew how to hook this up! Only costs $74.00.   
> Installed
> on my TR3A and it works like a charm and no problems with header  
> clearance
> etc.  They have a web cite with pics etc........
>
> John H. Hasty
> Attorney At Law
> Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
> 719 East Boulevard
> Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
> Tele: (704) 372-5600
> Fax: (704) 372-4601
> E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com

From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 26 12:45:57 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:45:57 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
	<CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000d01cc6420$661bc9d0$32535d70$@com>

The vents are needed to prevent a sucking noise at the lip seals of the
crank with more modern cars.
With our old lumps and enough blow by no noise will occur - but who cares
anyway if it does?

Cheer
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2011 20:36
An: Robert M. Lang; Friends
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question

I could easily do that setup as I have a catch tank in place now.
BUT... How would negative pressure work in such a case as I would be sucking
on the tank with an opening to the atmosphere and I do not understand how
any negative pressure would get applied to the crankcase.

If Iran the evacuator line to a non-vented tank then to the rocker cover
[with a cover over the vent hole like Christian showed to stop directly
sucking into the hose] then I think it would work.  The evacuator uses 5/8
inch line -- which I believe is AN10.

Thoughts everyone?



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With a crankcase evac, you'll have negative pressure present, so if you
tap
> into the valve cover, you'll pull oil mist out. Another way to do this
> without sucking all the oil from the engine is to set up a system where
the
> valve cover vent line goes to a tank of some sort that has the evacuator
on
> one tap and there is also a vent to atmospere. That way, if the engine
> starts blowing oil, it goes to the tank but not necessarily all out the
> tailpipe.
>
> The goodparts oil seperator is a good way of doing this, but you may find
> the capacity to be on the small side. So another way of doing it would be
to
> use the goodparts setup with a larger tank...
>
> I run a PCV setup on my car. I have the neg. pressure source as the INTAKE
> (there's a tap on the Cannon Weber manifold). This gives me negative
> pressure on the overrun only. If the crankcase pressurizes, it vents to
the
> catch tank (which is vented to atmosphere). The key here is that when
> there's lots of oil present in the valve cover - it "blows" into the catch
> tank, but when I lift, the oil vapor can get sucked back through the into
> the intake (and burned off). With this setup, I get a small amount of oil
in
> the catch tank when I run the motor to stupid revs (like 7000+), but no
> excessive leaks anywhere.
>
> To your question on the breather - I wouldn't use the oil filler cap as
the
> breather (along with the fitment issuse you mentioned (like fouling on the
> bonnet)). Use the catch tank as the breather. That way you don't have to
> worry about saturating the breather filter and the potential fire hazard
> that presents. The key here is that on a long hi-RPM run, you get a LOT of
> oil in the valve cover and there's a good chance that that oil will find
its
> way out. I don't like valve cover breather filters cuz they seem to fill
> with oil and then drip (or worse) and you get oil everywhere.
>
> On the size of the hose(s) from the valve cover - go with TWO AN8 or AN10
> lines if you can.
>
> regards,
> rml
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
>



--
Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Fri Aug 26 13:16:53 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:16:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
	<CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261506360.19620@isis.mit.edu>

Hi,

I don't know the full theory on this stuff, but the key here is that you 
have _pressure differential_ between the crank case (or valvetrain) and 
the catch tank. In order to keep oil from blowing out of every crevice on 
the motor, this differential must be negative where you want the oil (or 
vapor) to flow.

So, you don't need a lot of vacuum - you just need lower pressure than 
what's inside the engine.

You can get crazy with all this, but if the goal is to stop leaks and 
stuff, you need "just enough". Two 5/8" hoses is def better than one 1/2" 
hose (which is what the factory used for Federal Emissions cars) - so two 
AN10's would be great.

As far as the "breathing" part, you just need about the same surface area 
of outlet as the hose(s) you are using to vent the valve cover. If you use 
MORE area in the outlet you can't get lower pressure in the catch tank and 
you more or less defeat the purpose OR you need to find a better method to 
reduce the pressure in the catch tank...

My setup works pretty well. Even when I had a broken ring (30% leakdown 
past the rings) the motor didn't leak at all! Surprised me too (when I ran 
the leakdown test).

I like the suggestion of a baffle in the valve cover. That's what the 
factory did (although they also use a screen which is overkill IMHO).

c ya,
rml
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
Former NER Solo Chair                          |
Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Aug 26 13:20:17 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:20:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261506360.19620@isis.mit.edu>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
	<CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261506360.19620@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535A2E790D@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

Doesn't Richard Good sell a canister to separate the smoke from the oil?

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Robert M. Lang
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 2:17 PM
To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
Cc: Friends
Subject: Re: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question

Hi,

I don't know the full theory on this stuff, but the key here is that you have
_pressure differential_ between the crank case (or valvetrain) and the catch
tank. In order to keep oil from blowing out of every crevice on the motor,
this differential must be negative where you want the oil (or
vapor) to flow.

So, you don't need a lot of vacuum - you just need lower pressure than what's
inside the engine.

You can get crazy with all this, but if the goal is to stop leaks and stuff,
you need "just enough". Two 5/8" hoses is def better than one 1/2"
hose (which is what the factory used for Federal Emissions cars) - so two
AN10's would be great.

As far as the "breathing" part, you just need about the same surface area of
outlet as the hose(s) you are using to vent the valve cover. If you use MORE
area in the outlet you can't get lower pressure in the catch tank and you more
or less defeat the purpose OR you need to find a better method to reduce the
pressure in the catch tank...

My setup works pretty well. Even when I had a broken ring (30% leakdown past
the rings) the motor didn't leak at all! Surprised me too (when I ran the
leakdown test).

I like the suggestion of a baffle in the valve cover. That's what the factory
did (although they also use a screen which is overkill IMHO).

c ya,
rml
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Former NER Solo Chair                          |
Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Aug 26 17:04:12 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:04:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <8CE324D6AC7EC06-190-839F@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
	<CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CE324D6AC7EC06-190-839F@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE325B9A4B1C65-26BC-2CCB@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
To: triosan <triosan at gmail.com>; lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>; fot
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2011 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question


It would seem that it would work best with a closed system.

We have used the existing nipple on the OEM valve cover for about 13 years. It
might be baffled with simple 'top hat' tab strip, but sucking copious amounts
of oil out has never been an issue.

Tech responds positively when I explain the concept....when they do ask.

In order to avoid questions, I think Sean is going add a dummy tank.

If you are over 60, apparently you get more respect....Sean's hair is not grey
enough.

BTW, THIS IS NOT A NEW IDEA......and it has other benefits in reducing
turbulence in the crankcase and aids in sealing the rings.....according to
technical reports.  Long used by dragstrip and stock car guys....pretty clever
folks they are, and their parts can be a lot cheaper.

Bottom line to us was a dry chassis after a hard weekend at high speed.

Cheap/Effective

From trdoctor at aol.com  Fri Aug 26 18:28:48 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fot Brake Lines
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1314381602.12781.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1.1314381602.12781.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <FB186A23-9C82-4605-BC27-3CBEE11E5FBE@aol.com>

You can buy an ISO/Bubble Flaring tool from $nap On.  Not cheap, but works
fine.  I had to flag a truck down and have them order them for me.  PN
TFN-428

Sam Clark
Green Country Triumphs

On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:00 PM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:

>
>
> Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old
British
> cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
> already made up?
>    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
> flares?
>    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
>    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines to
> match the British fittings, without much success.
>    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell
me
> the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd like
to
> flare my own.
>    Any thoughts?
>    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is going?
>    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
> line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it
on
> the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
> Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van
days!

From triosan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 21:36:54 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:36:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fot Brake Lines
In-Reply-To: <FB186A23-9C82-4605-BC27-3CBEE11E5FBE@aol.com>
References: <mailman.1.1314381602.12781.fot@autox.team.net>
	<FB186A23-9C82-4605-BC27-3CBEE11E5FBE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNCisudHDUw4pjWbrqsNg=bynpNqZY0eFKwPy5p+jh=tQw@mail.gmail.com>

Airport Spruce -- about $100.  I did many, many brake and fuel Lines in the
race car and the tool sure paid off [as did the "Kool Tool" for
holding the hose ends -- got it from Racer Wholesale].

Chuck

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:hlding
the hose ends].

> You can buy an ISO/Bubble Flaring tool from $nap On.  Not cheap, but works
> fine.  I had to flag a truck down and have them order them for me.  PN
> TFN-428
>
> Sam Clark
> Green Country Triumphs
>
> On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:00 PM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old
> British
> > cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
> > already made up?
> >    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
> > flares?
> >    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
> >    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines
> to
> > match the British fittings, without much success.
> >    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell
> me
> > the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd
> like
> to
> > flare my own.
> >    Any thoughts?
> >    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is
> going?
> >    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
> > line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it
> on
> > the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
> > Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van
> days!
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Aug 26 22:44:43 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:44:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
Message-ID: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>

Do any of the vintage sanctioning bodies allow the rear swing axle setups to
be converted to a more conventional (like twin A-frame) type of suspension?
Or are you stuck with the swing axles?  I ask because the thought of
offering an upgrade  consisting of the lower control arm and split axles
with a CV joint has recently come to me.  If there is a reasonable demand, I
might explore further to see how much I could offer it for.

 

Racers could use it if it is not outlawed, but street cars might find it
attractive if it doesn't break the bank.

 

Thanks,

Joe C.

From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 27 06:20:44 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:20:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
Message-ID: <002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>

Joe,

I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
IRS conversion
for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.

Doug

--
Doug Mitchell
dmitchel at sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:45 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

Do any of the vintage sanctioning bodies allow the rear swing axle setups to
be converted to a more conventional (like twin A-frame) type of suspension?
Or are you stuck with the swing axles?  I ask because the thought of
offering an upgrade  consisting of the lower control arm and split axles
with a CV joint has recently come to me.  If there is a reasonable demand, I
might explore further to see how much I could offer it for.

 

Racers could use it if it is not outlawed, but street cars might find it
attractive if it doesn't break the bank.

 

Thanks,

Joe C.
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Aug 27 08:19:48 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:19:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>

I think you had better take another look at PRI's product.  It is a
replacement for the road spring to coil-over but leaves the swing axle
intact (if that is the product you are referring to).  In my estimation,
that is nothing more than "Bling"

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

Joe,

I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
IRS conversion
for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.

Doug

--
Doug Mitchell
dmitchel at sbcglobal.net

From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Aug 27 08:56:24 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:56:24 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
Message-ID: <DB1212B8-9CC1-4F19-8F04-9340412ED166@aol.com>

I have looked at the pRI set up. It makes the rear more independent. But to
get away from the swing arm completely  use the GT6 lower a-arm with a cv
setup.   That sounds like a really sweet setup to me in my mind.

Chris

On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:19 AM, "Joe Curry" <spitlist at cox.net> wrote:

> I think you had better take another look at PRI's product.  It is a
> replacement for the road spring to coil-over but leaves the swing axle
> intact (if that is the product you are referring to).  In my estimation,
> that is nothing more than "Bling"
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
> To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
>
> Joe,
>
> I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
> IRS conversion
> for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.
>
> Doug
>
> --
> Doug Mitchell
> dmitchel at sbcglobal.net
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>
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Aug 27 09:02:14 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:02:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <DB1212B8-9CC1-4F19-8F04-9340412ED166@aol.com>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
	<DB1212B8-9CC1-4F19-8F04-9340412ED166@aol.com>
Message-ID: <55B6BF12CBFF4A9A8879805C31C70338@Vista>

That is more of what I had in mind with the aim of using a CV joint rather
than rotoflex and using the Spitfire upright rather than having to seek a
good pair of GT6 rotoflex uprights.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock [mailto:SeaCubeCo at aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:56 AM
To: Joe Curry
Cc: Doug Mitchell; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

I have looked at the pRI set up. It makes the rear more independent. But to
get away from the swing arm completely  use the GT6 lower a-arm with a cv
setup.   That sounds like a really sweet setup to me in my mind.  

Chris

On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:19 AM, "Joe Curry" <spitlist at cox.net> wrote:

> I think you had better take another look at PRI's product.  It is a
> replacement for the road spring to coil-over but leaves the swing axle
> intact (if that is the product you are referring to).  In my estimation,
> that is nothing more than "Bling"
> 
> Joe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
> To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
> 
> Joe,
> 
> I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells
an
> IRS conversion
> for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.
> 
> Doug
> 
> --
> Doug Mitchell
> dmitchel at sbcglobal.net
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sat Aug 27 10:10:02 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:10:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hastings and Road America
Message-ID: <8CE32EAE8F6322F-3CC-1044E@webmail-m066.sysops.aol.com>

Next weekend, we are looking forward to running Hastings with RMVR and HVR as
sanctioning bodies. A country club course with little of the excitement of
Road America, but lower in cost and will make a good event for friends and
family.

We also plan to attend THE ELVF at Road America. It will be a tribute to a
late friend, Mike Roseberry. Mike and Duck Waddle were charter members of our
NORTHEAST IOWA SPORTS CAR CLUB from the late 50s. It was Mike's wish that his
ashes be distributed there, so his family have made reservations to be there.

Included in the Roseberry family albums are pictures of Duck racing his TR3. I
had forgotten that.

Looking forward to seeing folks that will be at both locations.

Joe A.

From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Sat Aug 27 15:23:20 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:23:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] brake lines
In-Reply-To: <2CD50472854C44EEB761B2E7AD63848A@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <2CD50472854C44EEB761B2E7AD63848A@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <000501cc64ff$8dfbcfb0$a9f36f10$@com>

An expensive solution is the use of AN fittings which have the great
advantage of being able to be removed and screwed back on without leaking.
For the small brake line fittings they are less costly and may be worth it.
I've for gotten which flare they use but I think I got the flaring tool from
Aircraft Spruce and it worked great, also no leaks!

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of william r tobin
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:12 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] brake lines

Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old
British
cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
already made up?
    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
flares?
    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines to
match the British fittings, without much success.
    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell
me
the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd like
to
flare my own.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is going?
    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it on
the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van
days!
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 28 16:29:51 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:29:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
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	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
Message-ID: <1314570591.73417.YahooMailRC@web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Joe,

You're right. I saw the "fully independent" and assumed thry meant IRS.
Of course we know all about assume.

Doug



----- Original Message ----
From:
Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: Doug Mitchell <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>;
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, August 27, 2011 10:19:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Fot]
Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

I think you had better take
another look at PRI's product.  It is a
replacement for the road spring to
coil-over but leaves the swing axle
intact (if that is the product you are
referring to).  In my estimation,
that is nothing more than "Bling"

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

Joe,

I
don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
IRS
conversion
for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.

Doug

--
Doug Mitchell
dmitchel at sbcglobal.net

From mdporter at dfn.com  Sun Aug 28 16:57:54 2011
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:57:54 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <1314570591.73417.YahooMailRC@web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
	<1314570591.73417.YahooMailRC@web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E5AC7F2.10703@dfn.com>

On 8/28/2011 4:29 PM, Doug Mitchell wrote:
> Joe,
>
> You're right. I saw the "fully independent" and assumed thry meant IRS.
> Of course we know all about assume.
>
>

Umm, well, no contradiction there.  IRS = Independent Rear Suspension, 
which, yes, includes swing axles.

The difference is in swing axle to double-jointed axle.  Both are IRS, 
but there's some notable difference in how the wheel behaves between the 
two configurations.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....

From tedtsimx at bright.net  Mon Aug 29 12:23:25 2011
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:23:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Vintage Race
Message-ID: <4E5BD91D.7060907@bright.net>

Hi listers. We will beat the Watkins Glen Vintage races Sept. 8 - 11.  
We will have a parts/accessories booth in the vendor area and can bring 
items out ifyou have a specific need. Please give me a call if you need 
something.  Look forward to seeing you there. Thanks,Ted

-- 
Ted Schumacher
tedtsimx at bright.net
http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
108 S. Jefferson St.
Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.)
Phone: 800.543.6648 (US&  Canada)
Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022

From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Mon Aug 29 17:34:13 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:34:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hooking up the light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
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	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <1314660853.51786.YahooMailRC@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well, got the little DB altenator and it looks good.  The physical hookup is
no 
problem.  On the electrical part, I am still using the ignition, etc of
the 
original 74 TR6.  Currently I have three wires going to the altenator. 
One is 
large brown which I assume to be to the starter/battery.  I also have
a brown 
yellow which I assume is from the ignition and finally, a small brown
wire that 
went into a separate plug in the altenator.  My stock voltmeter
works and I 
assume that this small brown wire is for that.

On the new
altenator, I have the heavy battery terminal which I assume I will 
connect
the large brown wire to.  The other terminal on the new altenator has
a horizonal and vertical pin in what could be a single plug.  The top
horizonal 
pin seems to indicate ground.  What is the best way to handle this
one?  Also, 
is the vertical pin below the ground pin the one for the ignition
wire (brown 
yellow)?  Where would I connect the voltmeter wire on the new
altenator?

Thanks for any help on this, Jim in Folsom, CA
________________________________
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To:
sherry robyn <sherryjimmy6116 at att.net>
Cc: Richard Good
<goodparts at verizon.net>; MIKE DEWEERD <deweerdm at rogers.com>;
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, August 22, 2011 7:22:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot]
Light weight altenator



DB Electrical

www.dbelectrical.com

Look at the
NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.

It's less than $75 to your
door for a brand-new alternator.

To install it, you need an upper bracket
(less than $20 or the scrap pile, your 
choice) and a couple of spacers
(another $10 or less at the h/w store) and the 
proper sized belt.

Electrical
hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from the 
ignition
switch to excite the alternator.

I put one on my race car and I love it.
regards,
rml
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Former
NER Solo Chair                          |
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          |  Cell: 339-927-4489
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From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Mon Aug 29 19:12:38 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:12:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Hooking up the light weight altenator
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	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
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> One is
> large brown which I assume to be to the starter/battery.

Yup.

>  I also have
> a brown
> yellow which I assume is from the ignition

Ignition warning lamp, on the dash.

> and finally, a small brown
> wire that
> went into a separate plug in the altenator.  My stock voltmeter
> works and I
> assume that this small brown wire is for that.

No, it is a "sense" wire from the battery back to the regulator inside the
alternator, so it can "see" battery voltage without the voltage drop induced
in the big wire (by heavy current flowing through it).

> On the new
> altenator, I have the heavy battery terminal which I assume I will
> connect
> the large brown wire to.

That's right.

> The other terminal on the new altenator has
> a horizonal and vertical pin in what could be a single plug.  The top
> horizonal
> pin seems to indicate ground.  What is the best way to handle this
> one?  Also,
> is the vertical pin below the ground pin the one for the ignition
> wire (brown
> yellow)?  Where would I connect the voltmeter wire on the new
> altenator?

There are a lot of variations, and your description doesn't match my
alternator so I can't really answer.  But most likely you'll need to run an
additional wire from a switched power source (ignition circuit); and the
small brown wire won't be used.

-- Randall 

From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Aug 30 08:13:38 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:13:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hooking up the light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <226f01cc66b1$e92f2f90$bb8d8eb0$@rr.com>
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Randall wrote:

[good info, but stuff deleted]

> There are a lot of variations, and your description doesn't match my
> alternator so I can't really answer.  But most likely you'll need to run an
> additional wire from a switched power source (ignition circuit); and the
> small brown wire won't be used.

This is correct. This wire is what energizes the alternator. Without this, 
you'll see 12 volts no matter what the revs are. With this connected to 
the ignition source, you'll get the expected 13.7 (plus or minus).

> -- Randall

regards,
rml
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From gasket.works at verizon.net  Tue Aug 30 22:01:04 2011
From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:01:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT
References: <00ae01cc673f$b452af20$1cf80d60$@com>
Message-ID: <00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>

Dustin:

I will post this on the FOT email site.  You may get a response from some
local folks.

good luck racing...

Mordy

M.N.Dunst
Gasket Works USA, LLC
www.Headgasket.com
626.358.1616 ph1
626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax

Triple R Munitions, Inc.
Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax
GMT-8 Pacific


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dustin Nicholson
  To: gasket.works at gte.net
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM
  Subject: FOT


  Hi, I'm a long time follower of FOT from the outside.  I've got several
friends (mostly in Texas) that race Triumphs in CVAR and I'm looking to get
into it myself.  For the last 15 years I have had stock spitfires and have
autocrossed them at VTR conventions and I have done a 24 hours of LeMons in a
TR6, but am now ready to get a real race car.  Can you help me find a beginner
racing Triumph?  I'd really like to become a  member of FOT, how do I do that?
I understand y'all have an email group that I'd like to be a part of.



  Thanks,

  Dustin Nicholson

From gasket.works at verizon.net  Tue Aug 30 22:03:04 2011
From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:03:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction
Message-ID: <00be01cc6792$e290d350$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>

I am forwarding this information the group.

NFI...

Mordy

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626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
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----- Original Message -----
From: Shuler Auctions
To: gasket.works at gte.net
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction


We will be Auctioning a 1968 TR250 on Sept 18th at Public Auction in
Titusville, Florida.  Do you have a place that we can post this info?

Thank You,
Debbie Shuler AU#3756
Cliff Shuler Auctioneers & Liquidators, Inc. AB#9/AU#14
Shuler & Shuler Real Estate Auctioneers, Inc.
Secretary/Treasurer Florida Auctioneers Association
422 Julia St., Titusville, FL 32796
www.soldfor.com
321-267-8563 office
321-383-3147 fax

From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Aug 31 08:11:41 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:11:41 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
Message-ID: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>

Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about LSDs.
I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet to
digest all that.

Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
(temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
manifold.

I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the INNOVATE
MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
gauge)

What do you think of it ? Any experience?

And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)

Thank you Amici!

All the best

Alex

From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Aug 31 08:55:33 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:55:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
In-Reply-To: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>
References: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <AE74EEE7C9B94080AF4B5E0CF69243F6@Vista>

This is the one I am using.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3375/

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:12 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter

Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about LSDs.
I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet to
digest all that.

Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
(temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
manifold.

I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the INNOVATE
MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
gauge)

What do you think of it ? Any experience?

And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)

Thank you Amici!

All the best

Alex
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Aug 31 09:25:07 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:25:07 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
In-Reply-To: <AE74EEE7C9B94080AF4B5E0CF69243F6@Vista>
References: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>,
	<AE74EEE7C9B94080AF4B5E0CF69243F6@Vista>
Message-ID: <SNT141-W479C26DEC616C8EE5B5C5FB2160@phx.gbl>

Almost all of my cars have A/F meters fitted. I just fitted a the gauge from
Innovate. By Far the Best set up. All weather pack connections.East to read
gauge.
down loadable if you are into that !


> From: spitlist at cox.net
> To: ac at camoletti.ch; fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:55:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
>
> This is the one I am using.
>
> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3375/
>
> Joe C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:12 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
>
> Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about
LSDs.
> I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet
to
> digest all that.
>
> Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
> (temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
> manifold.
>
> I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the INNOVATE
> MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
> gauge)
>
> What do you think of it ? Any experience?
>
> And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)
>
> Thank you Amici!
>
> All the best
>
> Alex
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Wed Aug 31 09:57:44 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:57:44 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24
Message-ID: <SNT134-W31CD35B13D5789B6BBA9BF90160@phx.gbl>

I woul like to invite you to the following event:

I am putting together a TSD Road Rally in Taos, New Mexico on September 24th
and would love to have a good turnout especially considering how big a chore
it is turning into.
The Rally is a part of the Rio Grande Valley Regional Rendezvous put on by the
British Automobile Owners Association in Albuquerque.
Registration can be had at www.baoa.org
Cheers, Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM

From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Wed Aug 31 10:11:56 2011
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (Diesel Performance Parts - Info)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:11:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Air Fuel Meters
Message-ID: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DA486@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>

Members,

Got a few posts on this subject, wanted to remind everyone that as  FOT'er I
offer all Auto Meter  to FOT members are DEEEEEEEEP discount as my company is
a Master WD and it's something I can offer back to the members for all the
help I have gotten over the years.

Go to www.autometer.com<http://www.autometer.com/> and get the part number(s)
you need and e mail me, I'll get you pricing and go from there.

Mark Craig
Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
411 Allied Drive
Nashville, TN 37211
866-455-7788 Phone
615-834-9923 Fax

www.dieselperformanceparts.com

From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Wed Aug 31 10:32:04 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:32:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W31CD35B13D5789B6BBA9BF90160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DD6739B132804691AD9EC04B54858B85@gdhs.local>

Gee:  makes me want to find the old Curta, odometer counters, instruction
boards etc. from the 1960's, but New Mexico is a little too far for
us...having been the rally master for many, many local events and one SCCA
regional event I can appreciate all the work you have to put into one of
these.....good luck.....have a great time.......

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
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Behalf Of Henry Morrison
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:58 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24


I woul like to invite you to the following event:

I am putting together a TSD Road Rally in Taos, New Mexico on September 24th
and would love to have a good turnout especially considering how big a chore
it is turning into. The Rally is a part of the Rio Grande Valley Regional
Rendezvous put on by the British Automobile Owners Association in
Albuquerque. Registration can be had at www.baoa.org Cheers, Henry Morrison,
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 31 11:06:38 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:06:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24
In-Reply-To: <DD6739B132804691AD9EC04B54858B85@gdhs.local>
References: <DD6739B132804691AD9EC04B54858B85@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <8CE36177B0963A2-125C-23636@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com>

ya,  i have odometers, Halda Speed Pilot, and HEUER watches.....someday they
will come off the shelf.......I see the Halda and HEUER watches are worth a
lot of money these days.





-----Original Message-----
From: John Hasty <jhhasty at gdhs.com>
To: 'Henry Morrison' <dos_gusanos at msn.com>; 'fot' <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 11:51 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24


Gee:  makes me want to find the old Curta, odometer counters, instruction
boards etc. from the 1960's, but New Mexico is a little too far for
us...having been the rally master for many, many local events and one SCCA
regional event I can appreciate all the work you have to put into one of
these.....good luck.....have a great time.......

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
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Behalf Of Henry Morrison
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:58 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24


I woul like to invite you to the following event:

I am putting together a TSD Road Rally in Taos, New Mexico on September 24th
and would love to have a good turnout especially considering how big a chore
it is turning into. The Rally is a part of the Rio Grande Valley Regional
Rendezvous put on by the British Automobile Owners Association in
Albuquerque. Registration can be had at www.baoa.org Cheers, Henry Morrison,
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 31 11:44:40 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:44:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
Message-ID: <8CE361CCB55A158-125C-24042@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com>

....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander

From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Aug 31 12:03:08 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:03:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402684393@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I saw Duck at Siebkens on Saturday night.  He didn't seem to be doing poorly, though he wasn't galloping around the place, either.
 
Scott B.

----- Original Message -----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed Aug 31 12:44:40 2011
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....

....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Aug 31 12:36:23 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:36:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Congrats to Walt Hallowell
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108311433290.20680@isis.mit.edu>

FOT Walt Hallowell completed all his runs at the SCCA Solo Nationals just 
now. While he wasn't in the trophy hunt, at least he was there and showing 
off that Triumphs are meant to be driven.

Congrats, man!

I got my fingers crossed for 2012 that I'll be there ready to waive the 
banner.

regards,
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 31 12:43:51 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:43:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Congrats to Walt Hallowell
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108311433290.20680@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108311433290.20680@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8CE36250F8AC2FE-1128-17D1F@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com>

hear!  hear!





-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 1:39 pm
Subject: [Fot] Congrats to Walt Hallowell


FOT Walt Hallowell completed all his runs at the SCCA Solo Nationals just
now. While he wasn't in the trophy hunt, at least he was there and showing
off that Triumphs are meant to be driven.

Congrats, man!

I got my fingers crossed for 2012 that I'll be there ready to waive the
banner.

regards,
rml
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Wed Aug 31 12:58:20 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:58:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR2 to TR6 clutch parts list & usage
Message-ID: <000001cc680f$f44a4d10$dcdee730$@com>

After my recent post regarding throw out bearing sleeves for the various
clutch styles and models of TR's I got curious and made a spread sheet  of
which clutch and associated parts are used with which model TR and style of
pressure plate.  I used the latest Moss catalogs as well as some  notes from
those who responded to my post.  Tony Drews has posted it on his website,
tonydrews.com, under the "Test" section.  It may be of interest to those who
are new to the game, as Ryan & I are.  I'm sure all the "old hands" know
this stuff already.  Thanks,

 

Tim Murphy

1961 TR4 #317

From triumphs at consolidated.net  Wed Aug 31 16:10:50 2011
From: triumphs at consolidated.net (Ken Gano, home PC)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:10:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
References: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <F37E1DC75DD947789173EA460F767FDB@SONYATHOME>

I have the Innovate in my street car and love it.  Dig through their web 
site for some really neat products.  The a/f and be daisy chained in a 
complete data logging system that outputs all sorts of neat stuff.

NFI

Ken Gano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexandre Camoletti" <ac at camoletti.ch>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:11 AM
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter


> Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about 
> LSDs.
> I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet 
> to
> digest all that.
>
> Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
> (temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
> manifold.
>
> I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the 
> INNOVATE
> MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
> gauge)
>
> What do you think of it ? Any experience?
>
> And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)
>
> Thank you Amici!
>
> All the best
>
> Alex
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From spitfiresuz at 141.com  Wed Aug 31 17:09:07 2011
From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:09:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Air Fuel Meters
In-Reply-To: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DA486@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>
References: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DA486@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>
Message-ID: <4E5EBF13.8030707@141.com>

That is very kind of you, Mark! Thank you so much for helping us out!

Keep Triumphing,
Susan    :)


On 8/31/2011 12:11 PM, Diesel Performance Parts - Info wrote:
> Members,
>
> Got a few posts on this subject, wanted to remind everyone that as  FOT'er I
> offer all Auto Meter  to FOT members are DEEEEEEEEP discount as my company is
> a Master WD and it's something I can offer back to the members for all the
> help I have gotten over the years.
>
> Go to www.autometer.com<http://www.autometer.com/>  and get the part number(s)
> you need and e mail me, I'll get you pricing and go from there.
>
> Mark Craig
> Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
> 411 Allied Drive
> Nashville, TN 37211
> 866-455-7788 Phone
> 615-834-9923 Fax
>
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
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I'm so busy... I don't know if I found a rope, or lost my horse.

From rjl at gt-classics.com  Wed Aug 31 20:21:08 2011
From: rjl at gt-classics.com (R. John Lye)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:21:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FOT
In-Reply-To: <00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
References: <00ae01cc673f$b452af20$1cf80d60$@com>
	<00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
Message-ID: <4E5EEC14.5030700@gt-classics.com>

I'll nominate Dustin for membership, although I haven't seen him
for a few years, he's a good one and will learn a lot from this
bunch (some of which his father would probably prefer that he
not learn! :-) ).

John Lye

On 8/31/2011 12:01 AM, MORDY DUNST wrote:
> Dustin:
>
> I will post this on the FOT email site.  You may get a response from some
> local folks.
>
> good luck racing...
>
> Mordy
>
> M.N.Dunst
> Gasket Works USA, LLC
> www.Headgasket.com
> 626.358.1616 ph1
> 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
>
> Triple R Munitions, Inc.
> Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
> 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
> GMT-8 Pacific
>
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Dustin Nicholson
>    To: gasket.works at gte.net
>    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM
>    Subject: FOT
>
>
>    Hi, I'm a long time follower of FOT from the outside.  I've got several
> friends (mostly in Texas) that race Triumphs in CVAR and I'm looking to get
> into it myself.  For the last 15 years I have had stock spitfires and have
> autocrossed them at VTR conventions and I have done a 24 hours of LeMons in a
> TR6, but am now ready to get a real race car.  Can you help me find a beginner
> racing Triumph?  I'd really like to become a  member of FOT, how do I do that?
> I understand y'all have an email group that I'd like to be a part of.
>
>
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Dustin Nicholson
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
>>> _http://www.fot-racing.com_ (http://www.fot-racing.com/) 
>>> 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
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>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Mon Aug  1 20:18:46 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:18:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] mark 4, 1500 Spit tub
Message-ID: <78FB512C-BCB7-4178-83DB-4BBA9B88AAB0@aol.com>

Amici,
I have a spit tub for a Mark4 or 1500.  It needs new floors and battery box
which I have NEW replacements for.   It has primer over blue paint. No dents.
I have the doors and a trunk lid for it also.  Make me an offer.  I want to
get this thing out of my sight and out of the yard. It is in southern NJ but I
will be at Watkins Glen in October and can have it there.


Christopher Bock
www.SeaCubeCo.com
SeaCubeCo at aol.com
(609) 319-4322


From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Mon Aug  1 20:59:51 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 20:59:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 4 days to the next race with important TR4 oil pressure
 question
Message-ID: <20110802030342.3662718787A@autox.team.net>

Fot,

I just assembled a new motor and have a question about oil pressure & oil
viscosity.

I started with Brad Penn 30 wt break in oil and have a new Steve Yott oil
pump.

I ran in the cam yesterday for 20m, retorqued the head and took it out for
some run ups to 3K & eventually 4K.

About 15 minutes of run time. Oil pressure was right up at 75 -80. Before I
could record any notes I smelled oil burning

but it was just a displaced valve cover gasket. Fixed it.

Today I took the oil filter off and cut it open and there was a minor bit of
sparkle in the oil. I have been told a bit is normal.

I decided to give it an oil change and filter at this point. I changed to
Brad Penn 10-30,

On start up at 2000 it was at 75-80lbs. Over a period of 15 minutes running
up to 4K and back down and settling at a short cruise

of 2000 -  2500 the pressure worked it's way down to 50 lbs. I repeated
several times, it would always climb to 80 under throttle

but fall off again to 50 at a 2K rpm cruise. It dropped to 40 around a
corner but ran right up to 75- 80 under throttle.

I decided that was enough & parked it. I had my rod and main journals sized
to .003 clearance.

The big question is, with those clearance am I running enough viscosity ?

Thanks for the input as always

 

Jim G


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Tue Aug  2 05:26:11 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 07:26:11 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Time to order FLAGS is running out!
References: <B0956C22-C2A0-4D06-9108-4B7E2F45FA8A@aol.com>
Message-ID: <594916CA-B667-41F0-94EF-F06E331BBB69@aol.com>

> Amici,
>
> Time to start ordering.
>
> Details
> 2x3foot size
> Logo is about 16 inches high
> 2 grommets
> Indoor outdoor use
> Material is great quality
> I have a proof picture if your interested in seeing it.
>
> I made the decision to go single sided. This means the words will be
reversed on the back.
>
> Price is $15 each. Shipping is included.
>
> Deadline to order is august 8, 2011.  I will place the order then and they
should be sent out to you by mid September.
>
> Payments to paypal (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) or check to
> Chris Bock
> 3630 Italia Ave
> Vineland, NJ
> 08361
>
> Chris
>
> PS Badges are still available


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug  2 09:06:25 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
Message-ID: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

Alert:

Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning the
next day.

Greg, Henry, Walt?  Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?

Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.

Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.

May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......

319.464.4711   cell

Thanks!

Joe A.


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug  2 10:08:39 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:08:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
In-Reply-To: <3E154EF053E546EB892ADCF2B1EF9DCC@sarako>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<3E154EF053E546EB892ADCF2B1EF9DCC@sarako>
Message-ID: <8CE1F4593627B2E-15D4-36E9@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

very cool!

i wonder if i can extend the trip a day.....hmmmm

who will be racing?

thanks for the information!






-----Original Message-----
From: michael a kowalski <sm1ski at dslextreme.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>; n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 10:56 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


too bad, starting friday afternoon will be a racing event at Sandia
Motorsports continuing the rest of the weekend---includes a number of
triumphs.

mike kowalski
1500 spit, FP
----- Original Message -----
From: <n197tr4 at cs.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
> the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt?  Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711   cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Aug  2 10:20:24 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:20:24 -0600
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
In-Reply-To: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>

Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug  2 11:03:46 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:03:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

Thanks Henry!

I will have RV....I may be looking for 110 outlet if it is hot New Mexico
nights.

Will stay Friday night if co-pilot can stay.

Would like to join 'TR Drivers Extraordinaire'.

Got to see some TR FOLKS at PVGP with Irv.  But missed Snook.

Hope TR4 #197 will be at Hastings for RMVR/HVR event Labor Day Weekend.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------

BTW, we got a totally rebuilt DISTRIBUTOR back from ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS.

It was taylor tuned to Tilden Cam, and Compression, etc.  Included is matching
Coil.

We were overlooking the need to do this until coil failed at Blackhawk Farms.

Quality work is apparent and thoughtful, as we expected.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Wed Aug  3 06:33:30 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 06:33:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
In-Reply-To: <8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>,
	<8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W28E09B7EBA0F65D7CA2EF903A0@phx.gbl>

I'll do my best to hit Albuquerque by 5 pm Thursday, on Friday there is a
group that wants to go to the Casino and hit the Seafood Buffet, or I will
hang out at the track and cook something there for those who show
up................Cheers Henry



To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: New Mexico FOT Travel AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:03:46 -0400


Thanks Henry!

I will have RV....I may be looking for 110 outlet if it is hot New Mexico
nights.

Will stay Friday night if co-pilot can stay.

Would like to join 'TR Drivers Extraordinaire'.

Got to see some TR FOLKS at PVGP with Irv.  But missed Snook.

Hope TR4 #197 will be at Hastings for RMVR/HVR event Labor Day Weekend.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------

BTW, we got a totally rebuilt DISTRIBUTOR back from ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS.

It was taylor tuned to Tilden Cam, and Compression, etc.  Included is matching
Coil.

We were overlooking the need to do this until coil failed at Blackhawk Farms.

Quality work is apparent and thoughtful, as we expected.

Joe A





-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel





Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  3 13:41:24 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:41:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <1312400484.20994.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would like to nominate Rich Johnson to this esteemed group.

He races a
FP/HP Spitfire, usually at Waterford Hills.

I'll let him introduce himself.
Thanks,

Doug


From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  3 13:43:27 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:43:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire For Sale
Message-ID: <1312400607.54618.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Amici,

Orval Turley has decided to sell his FP (I think) Spitfire.

I don't
have any other details, so please contact Orval
directly at oturley1 at aol.com.
Doug


From gaf3 at charter.net  Wed Aug  3 16:21:34 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:21:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Head Milling Recomendations
Message-ID: <4E39C9EE.9030905@charter.net>

Group
I have been rebuilding a number of TR6 engines this summer, most have 
been stock with overbores.
The latest wants  to raise compression up to ~ 9.5:1 . He already has a 
mild cam.
I believe this has been a past thread but I can't seem to find it.
About how much in thousands would you go for that 9.5:1 compression ratio.
I did this a few years ago but can't remember how much I took off.
He is also looking for improved streetable performance.
I recommended the shaved head, raising compression and an improvement in 
carburetion such as new SU's
The car is a 74 with the dual exhaust ( new stainless ) so no headers on 
this one. He already has a mild cam but I'm starting with one of my 
donor engines since his crank and block are wiped out due to the dreaded 
thrust bearing problem ( did a full circle thrust bearing on this 
earliear but the crank is too rough ).
Suggestions??
Thanks in Advance
Glenn Franco
Too Many TR's
They Keep Multiplying


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug  3 20:10:17 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 22:10:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W28E09B7EBA0F65D7CA2EF903A0@phx.gbl>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com><SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>,
	<8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<SNT134-W28E09B7EBA0F65D7CA2EF903A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE2062C9E7187B-1834-F0B9@webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com>

Brendan and I will be nearby on Friday

Is there a place to plug in Class B RV?

Or we have genset.

Will arrive in ALBUQUERQUE Thursday afternoon.

Should conclude business at that time.

We are in DODGE CITY and getting out of it in the morning.

Joe






-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 7:33 am
Subject: RE: New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS



I'll do my best to hit Albuquerque by 5 pm Thursday, on Friday there is a
group that wants to go to the Casino and hit the Seafood Buffet, or I will
hang out at the track and cook something there for those who show
up................Cheers Henry


To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: New Mexico FOT Travel AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:03:46 -0400


Thanks Henry!

I will have RV....I may be looking for 110 outlet if it is hot New Mexico
nights.

Will stay Friday night if co-pilot can stay.

Would like to join 'TR Drivers Extraordinaire'.

Got to see some TR FOLKS at PVGP with Irv.  But missed Snook.

Hope TR4 #197 will be at Hastings for RMVR/HVR event Labor Day Weekend.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------

BTW, we got a totally rebuilt DISTRIBUTOR back from ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS.

It was taylor tuned to Tilden Cam, and Compression, etc.  Included is matching
Coil.

We were overlooking the need to do this until coil failed at Blackhawk Farms.

Quality work is apparent and thoughtful, as we expected.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
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From stlnyc at msn.com  Wed Aug  3 21:24:10 2011
From: stlnyc at msn.com (Fred & Mary Hodgson)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:24:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] FW: Save the Bonneville Salt Flats!
In-Reply-To: <SNT109-DS16FD5369FA8E1E93F10B1BAA3A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT109-DS16FD5369FA8E1E93F10B1BAA3A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W1032E2FEFB595F76CF186EDA3D0@phx.gbl>

Amici-

Thought I'd pass this on for those who might be interested.

Fred Hodgson


















Send Your Letter Supporting the Salt Flats



















Dear Fellow Enthusiast,

Once again, Summit Racing Equipment is reaching out to motorsports enthusiasts
- helping to raise awareness and seeking your support on the issues affecting
our industry, hobby, and passion.

Below is a letter addressed to the Bureau of Land Management asking for its
immediate support in stopping the destruction of the Bonneville Salt Flats in
Utah - a site of immense historic value where land speed records have been
attempted, and set. Originally 96,000 acres, the Salt Flats have shrunk to
just 30,000 acres because of unchecked potash mining operations who have
failed to replace the salt they've destroyed.

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below into an email, to help our government leaders understand the historic
and intrinsic value of the Salt Flats, and of their responsibility to help
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Bureau of Land Management:












To: The Honorable Robert Abbey
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As a long-time automotive and motorsports enthusiast, I was particularly
troubled to learn about what appears to be the deliberate destruction of
Utah's Bonneville Salt Flats by potash mining operations.

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Originally 96,000 acres, the Salt Flats are now a mere 30,000 acres. It's a
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power to mitigate the damage being inflicted on the Salt Flats, including:


An Environmental Assessment that will require mining operators to implement a
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is removed, and that the replenishment program occur over a period of several
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug  4 02:10:14 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:10:14 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Video - Race 1 at Oschersleben/Ger
In-Reply-To: <3FD0B9F48A3248BAAE8700BF80798137@gdhs.local>
References: <000901cc4ba2$cad2a790$6077f6b0$@com>
	<3FD0B9F48A3248BAAE8700BF80798137@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <001f01cc527d$f20e6100$d62b2300$@com>

This is an outside view and it starts at about 16min:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKx_uYWcFY

 

Cheers

Chris


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Aug  4 10:24:19 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:24:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
Message-ID: <F5DCF4800C06461693267BCB06CE8357@Charly>

6 cylinder head info
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
> out.   Sorry.
>
> mjb.
>
>
>
> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>
>
> GT6 Mk I        9.50
> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
> (early)
> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
> (late)
> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>
>
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Aug  4 10:26:02 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:26:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
Message-ID: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>

More 6 cylinder head info
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


>
> Hi Charly,
>
> I won't comment on cwe right now...
>
> Regarding head thickness, Richard Good has a pretty good table on his web 
> site (www.goodparts.com) that can be used as a guideline, but keep in mind 
> that production of TR6 heads is far from perfect (owing to multiple 
> foundries and some other details), so the actual volume of the combustion 
> chambers can vary a few cc's here and there.
>
> The late heads (73 and later) for US federal emmision specs were cast / 
> finished at over 3.550 thickness to get the 7.75:1 compression ratio. YOu 
> have to mill a crap load of metal off those heads to get resonable 
> compression gain.
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> rml
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------


From bownes at seiri.com  Thu Aug  4 10:48:03 2011
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:48:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
In-Reply-To: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>
References: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOQDUE1FKNUUqz5CkwH+tuhB3J6OX+mapMLtt=5hf3T-CQ@mail.gmail.com>

And I can personally attest to having taken 0.250" (yes 1/4") off of one.

I think the next one I do will be a bit less radical. :) and yes, I'm still
looking for a late head.

Bob

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Charly Mitchel
<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>wrote:

> More 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:17 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>
>> Hi Charly,
>>
>> I won't comment on cwe right now...
>>
>> Regarding head thickness, Richard Good has a pretty good table on his web
>> site (www.goodparts.com) that can be used as a guideline, but keep in
>> mind that production of TR6 heads is far from perfect (owing to multiple
>> foundries and some other details), so the actual volume of the combustion
>> chambers can vary a few cc's here and there.
>>
>> The late heads (73 and later) for US federal emmision specs were cast /
>> finished at over 3.550 thickness to get the 7.75:1 compression ratio. YOu
>> have to mill a crap load of metal off those heads to get resonable
>> compression gain.
>>
>> I hope this helps!
>>
>> rml
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
>> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
>> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>>
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From jsnook at wcnet.org  Thu Aug  4 12:11:17 2011
From: jsnook at wcnet.org (Jeff Snook)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:11:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Vintage Car Shop Near Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <00dc01cc52d1$e835bc60$b8a13520$@org>

Hi all,

We have a customer with an MGB street car that is moving to Alexandria, VA,
and is looking for a shop to store his car, and also to do minor maintenance
if needed while in their care.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

Jeff Snook
http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
419-344-0319 (Mobile)


From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  4 13:09:38 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:09:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
Message-ID: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters will
work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys run
for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of negative
camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
hoping to change that.  
 
Looking for feedback.
 
thanks!!!

Mike Mehl #46
TR4


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu Aug  4 13:29:18 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:29:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOQDUE1FKNUUqz5CkwH+tuhB3J6OX+mapMLtt=5hf3T-CQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>
	<CAJ1+nOQDUE1FKNUUqz5CkwH+tuhB3J6OX+mapMLtt=5hf3T-CQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DBB9@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I had to mill 0.272" off of a TR6 head that had been put on my GT6
engine by some GDPO.  Worked fine - still working fine, in fact.  That
took the GT6 motor from 6.2:1 compression to 9.5:1.  Much improved!

Scott B.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of robert bownes
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:48 AM
To: Charly Mitchel
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head

And I can personally attest to having taken 0.250" (yes 1/4") off of
one.

I think the next one I do will be a bit less radical. :) and yes, I'm
still
looking for a late head.

Bob

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Charly Mitchel
<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>wrote:

> More 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang"
<lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:17 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>
>> Hi Charly,
>>
>> I won't comment on cwe right now...
>>
>> Regarding head thickness, Richard Good has a pretty good table on his
web
>> site (www.goodparts.com) that can be used as a guideline, but keep in
>> mind that production of TR6 heads is far from perfect (owing to
multiple
>> foundries and some other details), so the actual volume of the
combustion
>> chambers can vary a few cc's here and there.
>>
>> The late heads (73 and later) for US federal emmision specs were cast
/
>> finished at over 3.550 thickness to get the 7.75:1 compression ratio.
YOu
>> have to mill a crap load of metal off those heads to get resonable
>> compression gain.
>>
>> I hope this helps!
>>
>> rml
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
>> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
>> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>>
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From billb at bnj.com  Thu Aug  4 14:05:55 2011
From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:05:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
In-Reply-To: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2F441E63-ECB0-45CB-A4B8-E94DBA342466@bnj.com>

Two to 2.5 is plenty for Speedsters, which seem to be a bit more like halfway
between radials (and certainly not slicks) and bias ply.
If your Triumph is faster than a well prepped rabbit you're doing well.

On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Mike Mehl wrote:

> I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters
will
> work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
> aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys
run
> for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
> have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of
negative
> camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
> Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
> hoping to change that.
>
> Looking for feedback.
>
> thanks!!!
>
> Mike Mehl #46
> TR4
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From mdhado at comcast.net  Thu Aug  4 15:13:11 2011
From: mdhado at comcast.net (M&M Hado)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:13:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
In-Reply-To: <F5DCF4800C06461693267BCB06CE8357@Charly>
Message-ID: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>

Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy info
when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also the
approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


6 cylinder head info
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
> out.   Sorry.
>
> mjb.
>
>
>
> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>
>
> GT6 Mk I        9.50
> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
> (early)
> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
> (late)
> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>
>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Thu Aug  4 21:14:16 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 22:14:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
In-Reply-To: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110805031531.42B61187897@autox.team.net>

Stock caster, very slight toe in, like 1/16", 2.5 degrees negative 
camber for me.  Very good turn in - I work on regulating oversteer 
not understeer.  The rear "traction links" and detroit locker may 
have something to do with that too.

Tony Drews

At 02:09 PM 8/4/2011, Mike Mehl wrote:
>I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters will
>work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
>aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys run
>for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
>have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of negative
>camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
>Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
>hoping to change that.
>
>Looking for feedback.
>
>thanks!!!
>
>Mike Mehl #46
>TR4
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 06:17:09 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:17:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
In-Reply-To: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
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If anyone replies on this, please post it to the group or at least copy me on
it.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, M&M Hado wrote:

> Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy info
> when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also
the
> approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
> mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
> 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
>> out.   Sorry.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>>
>>
>> GT6 Mk I        9.50
>> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
>> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
>> (early)
>> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
>> (late)
>> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
>> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
>> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
>> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
>> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
>> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
>> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>>
>>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug  5 06:20:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:20:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
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	<14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com>
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Just measured a head:

84.2 mm = 3.43"

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Duncan Charlton
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2011 14:17
An: M&M Hado
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info

If anyone replies on this, please post it to the group or at least copy me
on
it.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, M&M Hado wrote:

> Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy
info
> when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also
the
> approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
> mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
> 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
>> out.   Sorry.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>>
>>
>> GT6 Mk I        9.50
>> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
>> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
>> (early)
>> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
>> (late)
>> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
>> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
>> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
>> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
>> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
>> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
>> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>>
>>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug  5 09:09:09 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:09:09 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
References: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
	<14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <004701cc5381$a1ec5b50$e5c511f0$@com>

Sorry - wrong divisor:

Just measured a head:

84.2 mm = 3.31"

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Duncan Charlton
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2011 14:17
An: M&M Hado
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info

If anyone replies on this, please post it to the group or at least copy me
on
it.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, M&M Hado wrote:

> Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy
info
> when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also
the
> approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
> mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
> 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
>> out.   Sorry.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>>
>>
>> GT6 Mk I        9.50
>> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
>> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
>> (early)
>> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
>> (late)
>> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
>> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
>> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
>> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
>> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
>> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
>> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>>
>>
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Fri Aug  5 09:31:03 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:31:03 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
In-Reply-To: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110805153503.C97D61878BB@autox.team.net>

Mike,
I have used up to 3.5 on the front with very neutral handling but it's tough
on tires. I'm going to 2.5 this weekend and compare to past lap times.
I may switch back to 3.5 if they drop off. I use 1/8" total toe out.
I use the standard trunions for the IRS car and I don't know what the caster
is, I do wish I had a bit more though.
Somebody said to me once, do you want to save your tires or win races, 
I lean more to the winning side.

Jim g

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Mehl
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: Triumph Friends of
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe

I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters
will
work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys run
for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of
negative
camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
hoping to change that.  
 
Looking for feedback.
 
thanks!!!

Mike Mehl #46
TR4
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  5 09:51:11 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:51:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
Message-ID: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and were
quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile group:
 
1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke the
center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It was
an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them
for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to
tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices
are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
 
2. 
Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota caliper
conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on my
street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
rules as well).
 
Thanks for your help!
 
Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader
RiffRAF
Racing


From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Fri Aug  5 09:59:46 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Digital inspection camera
Message-ID: <1312559986.38597.YahooMailRC@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Is anyone using one of those digital inspection cameras to any great advantage
now that Harbor Freight has the price down to around $80?  Jim in Folsom, CA


From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Fri Aug  5 10:32:00 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:32:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi, I got a set of Rota wheels. Panasport knockoffs, made in the 
Philippines. I use them for rain/transport use. they are light and true.
$500 a set shipped.
Brakes: I use stock calipers with slotted rotors; they seem to work well. 
Also Porterfield pads and linings; worth the money. I also put on 7/8" rear 
wheel cylinders for more rear brakes.
Good job on the Chump Car thing!
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
> please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and 
> were
> quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile 
> group:
>
> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke 
> the
> center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It 
> was
> an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
> inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
> Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from 
> them
> for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes 
> to
> tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our 
> choices
> are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works 
> out
> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
> 2.
> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota 
> caliper
> conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on 
> my
> street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
> price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
> rules as well).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF
> Racing
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Aug  5 10:40:39 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:40:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
In-Reply-To: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FB85@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

I don't know the ChumpCar rules but Lemon's would have given us a tough time
buying new wheels under the "safety" exemption. I bought a set of old aluminum
race wheels from Sam Halkias for the Lemon's TR6 and they work great. They are
15X7 and we have 205-50-15 Falken Azenis  on them. Can you run 7" rims? The
Koenig Rewinds are cheap but have too much back space. If you do
longer/stronger studs and use a spacer they would be perfect. I bought 2 sets
a couple of years ago at $108.00 a rim from Discount Tire.

Our TR6 has lousy brakes too. It may be the booster and the fact that it is
all stock.  I'm thinking of switching it to what I have in my racecar TR4A. I
have dual 5/8" Wilwood Girling style master cylinders with a balance  bar on a
TR4 style bracket modified for the dual cylinders. The 5/8 cylinders can be
purchase for $50 each from Speedway motors, and you can copy the Racetorations
design using a TR4A pedal assembly.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Jamie Palmer
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:51 AM
To: Friends of Triumph
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6

For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and were
quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile group:

1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke the
center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It was
an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them
for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to
tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices
are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!

2.
Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota caliper
conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on my
street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
rules as well).

Thanks for your help!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader
RiffRAF
Racing
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Aug  5 10:47:51 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:47:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
In-Reply-To: <9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

I have been afraid to use better brake pads on the TR6. I should try a set but
I suspect we would wear race pads out before the day ends. There may be a good
endurance race pad out there but the Hawk Blues that stop my TR4A so
effectively wear pretty quickly and they aren't cheap.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of william r tobin
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:32 AM
To: Jamie Palmer; Friends of Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6

Hi, I got a set of Rota wheels. Panasport knockoffs, made in the Philippines.
I use them for rain/transport use. they are light and true.
$500 a set shipped.
Brakes: I use stock calipers with slotted rotors; they seem to work well.
Also Porterfield pads and linings; worth the money. I also put on 7/8" rear
wheel cylinders for more rear brakes.
Good job on the Chump Car thing!
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6
> ChumpCar, please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR
> 24 hrs. and were quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions
> for this erstwhile
> group:
>
> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen)
> broke the center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been
> using.  It was an...interesting...experience (I was driving).
> So...I've looked at inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is
> ChumpCar) and it looks like Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to
> go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them for a TR before?  Offset/width
> recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to tires, we're limited to
> 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices are quite
> limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
> 2.
> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota
> caliper conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the
> conversion on my street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or
> similar are out of our price range (and would probably violate the 2
> times stock pricing ChumpCar rules as well).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF
> Racing
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Aug  5 11:05:43 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:05:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
In-Reply-To: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110805170602.C9684187656@autox.team.net>

I am using the Toyota caliper in a race application.  There's a 
little more area under the pad than stock, but I'm not sure it's a 
huge improvement.  Makes it easier to find calipers and brake pads though.

I also built a Racestoration knockoff dual circuit setup.

Tony Drews

At 10:51 AM 8/5/2011, Jamie Palmer wrote:
>For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
>please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and were
>quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile group:
>
>1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke the
>center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It was
>an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
>inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
>Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them
>for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to
>tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices
>are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
>about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
>2.
>Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota caliper
>conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on my
>street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
>price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
>rules as well).
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Jamie Palmer
>Squadron Leader
>RiffRAF
>Racing
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>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug  5 11:11:42 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:11:42 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
In-Reply-To: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <008501cc5392$c1614610$4423d230$@com>

I use EBC yellow pads since 2004.
The brake, they last, they are cheap.
But they don't bite, they brake gentle which I enjoy most on wet tracks.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Kramer, Robert
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2011 18:48
An: william r tobin; Jamie Palmer; Friends of Triumph
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6

I have been afraid to use better brake pads on the TR6. I should try a set
but
I suspect we would wear race pads out before the day ends. There may be a
good
endurance race pad out there but the Hawk Blues that stop my TR4A so
effectively wear pretty quickly and they aren't cheap.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Fri Aug  5 11:47:54 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <703315B80B86467DB64D81CAF12FD81A@Charly>

Jamie.
Because of the rules of my race organization, I can't changed my calipers
and have to maintain the stock configuration.  I use EBC Green stuff pads
and I'm very happy with them.  I tried the Hawkspads and wasn't as happy
with those.  I also use the copper cooling wings as described by Mad Marx
Christian on them.  I don't run the long races like you do, but I stand on
them a lot harder than you do.
Charly Mitchel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 8:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
> please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and 
> were
> quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile 
> group:
>
> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke 
> the
> center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It 
> was
> an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
> inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
> Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from 
> them
> for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes 
> to
> tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our 
> choices
> are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works 
> out
> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
> 2.
> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota 
> caliper
> conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on 
> my
> street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
> price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
> rules as well).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF
> Racing
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Fri Aug  5 11:56:01 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:56:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <A9A32B20521946C9A1861166B580AEAB@Charly>

Oh yeah, also think about stiffening up the front spindles.
Charly Mitchel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kramer, Robert" <RKramer at rdoequipment.com>
To: "william r tobin" <william.tobin31 at verizon.net>; "Jamie Palmer" 
<tr6driver at yahoo.com>; "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


>I have been afraid to use better brake pads on the TR6. I should try a set 
>but
> I suspect we would wear race pads out before the day ends. There may be a 
> good
> endurance race pad out there but the Hawk Blues that stop my TR4A so
> effectively wear pretty quickly and they aren't cheap.
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf
> Of william r tobin
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:32 AM
> To: Jamie Palmer; Friends of Triumph
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
>
> Hi, I got a set of Rota wheels. Panasport knockoffs, made in the 
> Philippines.
> I use them for rain/transport use. they are light and true.
> $500 a set shipped.
> Brakes: I use stock calipers with slotted rotors; they seem to work well.
> Also Porterfield pads and linings; worth the money. I also put on 7/8" 
> rear
> wheel cylinders for more rear brakes.
> Good job on the Chump Car thing!
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
> To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
>
>
>> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6
>> ChumpCar, please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR
>> 24 hrs. and were quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions
>> for this erstwhile
>> group:
>>
>> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen)
>> broke the center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been
>> using.  It was an...interesting...experience (I was driving).
>> So...I've looked at inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is
>> ChumpCar) and it looks like Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to
>> go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them for a TR before?  Offset/width
>> recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to tires, we're limited to
>> 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices are quite
>> limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
>> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>>
>> 2.
>> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota
>> caliper conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the
>> conversion on my street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or
>> similar are out of our price range (and would probably violate the 2
>> times stock pricing ChumpCar rules as well).
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Jamie Palmer
>> Squadron Leader
>> RiffRAF
>> Racing


From rjohns at woh.rr.com  Fri Aug  5 16:57:16 2011
From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:57:16 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Message to Jeff Snook
Message-ID: <10EC3D07DED94918905F6C8825C15DC7@Bucktailus>

 Contact Bob Johns off line.  419-619-1208


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Aug  6 10:22:40 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:22:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Deadline is MONDAY for flags!
References: <1312400789.15162.YahooMailRC@web80803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <41447633-DFAB-4613-821C-8B34D1779C20@aol.com>

August 8 is MONDAY.  


>> Amici,
>> 
>> Time to start ordering.
>> 
>> Details
>> 2x3foot size
>> Logo is about 16 inches high
>> 2 grommets
>> Indoor outdoor use
>> Material is great quality
>> I have a proof picture if your interested in seeing it.
>> 
>> I made the decision to go single sided. This means the words will be
> reversed on the back.
>> 
>> Price is $15 each. Shipping is included.
>> 
>> Deadline to order is august 8, 2011.  I will place the order then and they
> should be sent out to you by mid September.
>> 
>> Payments to paypal (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) or check to
>> Chris Bock
>> 3630 Italia Ave
>> Vineland, NJ
>> 08361
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> PS Badges are still available


From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Sat Aug  6 20:16:06 2011
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 12:16:06 +1000
Subject: [Fot] 6cyl head
Message-ID: <CA+UW8b3AcKNcXTjHznKPJwr2QbqsP9DcPCmto1dh2a1eXttrzw@mail.gmail.com>

i'm really surprised what you did has lasted. they are different castings
and the face of the head gets very thin when you do this. i did one years
ago as a trial, and we could not hold head gaskets as the thickness of metal
between the gasket face and the cooling jacket was reduced too far (by 1/4")
Terry


From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net  Sun Aug  7 15:23:50 2011
From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:23:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Alternator help
Message-ID: <1312752230.50804.YahooMailClassic@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 8/4/11, EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net> wrote:


From: EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>
Subject: Alternator help
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 9:31 PM







Group: Last month someone was having a problem with their one wire Denso
alternator not charging above 12.5 volts or so. I don't remember what the fix
was. My son has put one on his '70 Datsun P/U ratrod and at every rpm it only
puts out 12.5-12.7 volts off the output terminal. I hate to tell him to start
jumping any of the other terminals for fear he'll ruin a brand new alternator.
Can someone please jog my memory on the conclusion of the previous similar
issue?
Thank you in advance - Ed 


From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Aug  7 20:28:21 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:28:21 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Stolen race car alert
Message-ID: <1B17B838913A49DB8DF7ABE5E6B8C5D4@Bud>

  Pablo Gonzalezbs Stanguellini Fjr. serial number #S00196, #80 Blue with a
yellow stripe was stolen last nite in San Antonio Texas.



  Here is a picture of the car.

  .

  Please pass this email on to anyone you know may be offered the car. I am
sure Pablo would be very thankful of any information.



  Here is Pablobs email address: pgs at uniexcel.com

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg]


From norlinengineering at comcast.net  Sun Aug  7 22:06:50 2011
From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Jim Norlin)
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:06:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Gearbox woes and trash talk
Message-ID: <4E3F60DA.3010704@comcast.net>

So we had a good weekend with the Spitfire until the gearbox croaked.  
Patty's turn to drive and she did a great job, finishing 3rd in class on 
Saturday out of 9 cars.  Her qualifying time this morning was less than 
a second off my best time at the Portland Historic Races last month.    
She was racing for the class lead this afternoon when the gearbox packed 
it in - stuck in 2nd gear.

We're running a modified GT 6 gearbox.  She caught 2nd for one of the 
slower corners and then could  not find either 3rd or 4th.  She was able 
to get 2nd, but we can't move the lever at all anymore.  I'm not sure if 
it's a problem with the selector forks/shafts or if the clip holding all 
the gears on the output shaft came off.  I'm heading off on a business 
trip in the morning and won't be able to look at the car until next 
weekend.  Anyone got any idea of what I might have to be dealing with?

Now for the trash talk.  Patty had an incredible run with a MIdget in 
Qualifying this morning and they were nose to tail in the race until the 
gearbox failed.  After the race in impound, the Midget driver told Patty 
something like - if you had 5 more horsepower, we'd have a great race.  
She got all over him and responded - "If I had five more horsepower, I'd 
leave you in my dust".  His response to the crowd around them was "This 
is what I like about vintage racing - being trash talked by a grandma!" -lol

Got 3 weeks to get things fixed before my last race of the season.


From jhouathome at aol.com  Mon Aug  8 13:52:48 2011
From: jhouathome at aol.com (jhouathome at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:52:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
Message-ID: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>

Anyone have a set of Weber 40's or 45's for sale?  I have the manifold,
gaskets and linkage in place on a set of Dell Ortos that I can't make work, so
I just need the carbs.  These are for the Kellison bodied TR4.  Looks great,
won't run.  Story of my life with racecars!
Thanks,
John Houlton


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Mon Aug  8 14:57:41 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:57:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
In-Reply-To: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5357D27586@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

http://www.piercemanifolds.com/


Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of jhouathome at aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:53 PM
To: FOT at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?

Anyone have a set of Weber 40's or 45's for sale?  I have the manifold,
gaskets and linkage in place on a set of Dell Ortos that I can't make work, so
I just need the carbs.  These are for the Kellison bodied TR4.  Looks great,
won't run.  Story of my life with racecars!
Thanks,
John Houlton
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From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Aug  8 15:32:41 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 14:32:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
References: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5357D27586@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <99831C7334434BC6A784D5B6010EA62B@Bud>

The Pierce manifold people are terrific to deal with.
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kramer, Robert" <RKramer at rdoequipment.com>
To: <jhouathome at aol.com>; <FOT at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?


> http://www.piercemanifolds.com/
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf
> Of jhouathome at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:53 PM
> To: FOT at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
>
> Anyone have a set of Weber 40's or 45's for sale?  I have the manifold,
> gaskets and linkage in place on a set of Dell Ortos that I can't make 
> work, so
> I just need the carbs.  These are for the Kellison bodied TR4.  Looks 
> great,
> won't run.  Story of my life with racecars!
> Thanks,
> John Houlton
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From 1964spitfire at pacbell.net  Mon Aug  8 17:52:52 2011
From: 1964spitfire at pacbell.net (Tim Pettenati)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:52:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spotted on craigslist - 1965 Triumph TR4 - $1250 (concord /
 pleasant hill / martinez) California
Message-ID: <1312847572.79024.YahooMailRC@web180316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Listed as a project car.  Photo doesn't look too far gone.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2534545789.html

NFI

Cheers,
Tim


From REK46 at aol.com  Tue Aug  9 10:56:34 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:56:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
Message-ID: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris 
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years 
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more 
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished 
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and has  
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic 
collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic 
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of 
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his email 
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can 
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.


From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM  Tue Aug  9 11:15:44 2011
From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:15:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
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References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
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I would second

John C. Wiley

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To: fot at autox.team.net; spitracer1296 at yahoo.com
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic
collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  9 11:16:02 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:16:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
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Second! We need more SCCA guys!

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:56 AM, REK46 at aol.com wrote:

> I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris
> has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years
> than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more
> recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished
> 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has
> a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic
> collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic
> member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of
> experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email
> in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can
> get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46
Fprod.
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From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Aug  9 11:29:28 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <81B076ED10BD4ADF88D25DBC320BCDBE@Vista>

I'm surprised he has not been nominated before now.  I have been following
his SCCA exploits for a long time and would be proud to have him as a
member.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of REK46 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:57 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net; spitracer1296 at yahoo.com
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris 
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years 
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more 
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished 
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has  
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic

collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic 
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of 
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email 
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can 
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From riverside at southslope.net  Tue Aug  9 11:31:15 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:31:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9EE37638BC2741D68EC8B772A7724E80@rileyPC>

An enthusiastic 2nd!

art de armond

-----Original Message----- 
From: REK46 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:56 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net ; spitracer1296 at yahoo.com
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and 
has
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic
collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his 
email
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Aug  9 11:31:06 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:31:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004e01cc56ba$1f15f420$5d41dc60$@rr.com>

2nd !!
Welcome.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of REK46 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:57 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net; spitracer1296 at yahoo.com
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris 
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years 
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more 
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished 
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has  
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic

collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic 
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of 
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email 
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can 
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue Aug  9 11:34:25 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:34:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
Message-ID: <25840618.728162.1312911265765.JavaMail.alfetta95@mail.srv.lgcyny1.cv.net>

I second.

Welcome Chris!


On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, REK46 at aol.com wrote:

> I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris 
> Crisenberry...Chris has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA 
> Spitfire  racer for more years than he wanted me to mention...He has 
> raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a 
> very successful   record having finished 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at 
> the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and has  a great 
> 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic 
> collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a 
> fantastic member to have on board and can certainly contribute a 
> "vast" amount of experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing 
> prep,etc...I  have copied his email in and if any further info is 
> needed,please let me  know....I hope we can get some 'seconds' to 
> welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  9 13:36:06 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:36:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Another Nomination
Message-ID: <1312918566.70488.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This must have fallen through the cracks.


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Doug Mitchell <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Cc: busterwcr at aol.com
Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011 3:41:24 PM
Subject: Nomination

I would like to nominate Rich Johnson to this esteemed group.

He races a FP/HP Spitfire, usually at Waterford Hills and in SCCA.

Thanks,

Doug


From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  9 13:37:17 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:37:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Spitfire For Sale
Message-ID: <1312918637.26062.YahooMailRC@web80806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Another post that got lost somewhere between my account and the list.



-----
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To:
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011 3:43:27 PM
Subject: Spitfire For
Sale

Amici,

Orval Turley has decided to sell his FP (I think) Spitfire.
I don't have any other details, so please contact Orval
directly at
oturley1 at aol.com.

Doug


From REK46 at aol.com  Tue Aug  9 14:06:37 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Another Nomination
Message-ID: <1ed2f.48fb5bf6.3b72ed4d@aol.com>

I know Rich...a good guy...I'll second it....Rick
 
 
In a message dated 8/9/2011 3:55:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
dmitchel at sbcglobal.net writes:

This  must have fallen through the cracks.


----- Forwarded Message  ----
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To:  fot at autox.team.net
Cc: busterwcr at aol.com
Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011  3:41:24 PM
Subject: Nomination

I would like to nominate Rich Johnson  to this esteemed group.

He races a FP/HP Spitfire, usually at Waterford  Hills and in  SCCA.

Thanks,

Doug
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From donmarshall at nefcom.net  Tue Aug  9 14:55:21 2011
From: donmarshall at nefcom.net (Don Marshall)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:55:21 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Looking for Hoosier 185.60-13s
Message-ID: <op.vzysejx2airs7i@don-pc.belkin>

I'm still prepping my "new" Spit for the VDCA event at Roebling Road next  
month and I need tires.  The car is being converted from SCCA on slicks  
and doesn't appear to have enough clearance for the Hoosier Street TD A70s  
(205.60-13).  Does anyone have a set of usable 185.60-13s they would be  
willing to part with?  These are roughly the same diameter as the slicks  
so I think they'll fit OK but I don't want to spring for a new set until  
I'm sure.  I may also be looking for a set of wheels if anyone has extras  
they want to talk about.  Thanks, Don


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Aug 10 03:25:51 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:25:51 +0200
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com>

Hi Guys,

I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late that
one wheel is a 5.5" one.
He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.

Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?

Cheers
Chris


From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 10 09:51:48 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:51:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for Hoosier 185.60-13s
In-Reply-To: <op.vzysejx2airs7i@don-pc.belkin>
References: <op.vzysejx2airs7i@don-pc.belkin>
Message-ID: <D44CFB1F-46E4-4A1A-8E41-728C1596C97B@earthlink.net>

Call JB racing tires for USED still good racing tires.  NFI

http://www.jbracingtires.net/

~Steve




On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Don Marshall wrote:

I'm still prepping my "new" Spit for the VDCA event at Roebling Road  
next
month and I need tires.  The car is being converted from SCCA on slicks
and doesn't appear to have enough clearance for the Hoosier Street TD  
A70s
(205.60-13).  Does anyone have a set of usable 185.60-13s they would be
willing to part with?  These are roughly the same diameter as the slicks
so I think they'll fit OK but I don't want to spring for a new set until
I'm sure.  I may also be looking for a set of wheels if anyone has  
extras
they want to talk about.  Thanks, Don
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Aug 10 16:13:46 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:13:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
Message-ID: <77134084.365638.1313014426443.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

FoT 

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the bolts 

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them. 

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping 

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod 

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances. 

Thanks as always, 

jim g 


From jsiam1 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 10 21:01:25 2011
From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (jsiam1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:01:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Seal saver
Message-ID: <644203231-1313031685-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1788578409-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry>

Hi I'm looking for a seal saver for the back of a spitfire crank.  Anyone have a source?  Thanks. Joe
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From jaboruch at netzero.net  Wed Aug 10 21:06:43 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:06:43 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Pocono SCCA National
Message-ID: <20110810.230643.14686.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Any FOTers going to be at the Pocono SCCA National?  I will be there with my
TR3.  Joe(B)

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 11 07:17:22 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:17:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY
Message-ID: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>

Mark your calendars and make your plans:


APRIL  2012

10TH RUNNING OF THE KASTNER CUP

Road Atlanta

Kas Kastner is the GRAND MARSHALL of this HSR event known as

THE MITTY

Henry Frye is CHAIRMAN of this FOT event and is working with Andy Reid of
Classic Motorsports.


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 09:18:37 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:18:37 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <77134084.365638.1313014426443.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <004001cc5839$f2ecd810$d8c68830$@com>

I never used plastic gage for the bearing clearance.
To measure this I always take dial gauges which in my opinion is more
precise as you can also estimate the out of roundness of the parts.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 00:14
An: fot
Betreff: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

FoT

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the
bolts

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them.

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances.

Thanks as always,

jim g
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Thu Aug 11 09:56:41 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:56:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <004001cc5839$f2ecd810$d8c68830$@com>
Message-ID: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Chris, 

I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine how to size the journals. 

I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the machinst and/or check clearances 

while the motor is in the car. 



Jim G 


----- Original Message -----


From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:18:37 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances 

I never used plastic gage for the bearing clearance. 
To measure this I always take dial gauges which in my opinion is more 
precise as you can also estimate the out of roundness of the parts. 

Cheers 
Chris 

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- 
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im 
Auftrag von toodamnfunky at comcast.net 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 00:14 
An: fot 
Betreff: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances 

FoT 

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the 
bolts 

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them. 

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping 

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod 

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances. 

Thanks as always, 

jim g 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:15:34 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:15:34 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
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References: <004001cc5839$f2ecd810$d8c68830$@com>
	<766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Hi Jim,



I have the same method as you to tap the bearing caps off.

Sorry that Ibm of any help to you.



Cheers

Chris



Von: toodamnfunky at comcast.net [mailto:toodamnfunky at comcast.net]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 17:57
An: MadMarx
Cc: Friends of Triumph
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances



Chris,

I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine how
to size the journals.

I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the machinst
and/or check clearances

while the motor is in the car.



Jim G

  _____

From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:18:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

I never used plastic gage for the bearing clearance.
To measure this I always take dial gauges which in my opinion is more
precise as you can also estimate the out of roundness of the parts.

Cheers
Chris

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Auftrag von toodamnfunky at comcast.net
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 00:14
An: fot
Betreff: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

FoT

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the
bolts

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them.

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances.

Thanks as always,

jim g
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:19:38 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:19:38 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <005901cc5842$795bd8d0$6c138a70$@com>

There will be another Kastner Cup this year.
As Kas will come to the Eifelrace in September and we thought it would be a
great idea to have a onetime only Kastner Cup in Europe.

To all European Triumph racers....this is your chance to win this trophy and
KEEP it!

Cheers
Chris


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 11 10:29:31 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:29:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
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	<005901cc5842$795bd8d0$6c138a70$@com>
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Outstanding!

Keep us posted.

Joe A.






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To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2011 11:23 am
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace


There will be another Kastner Cup this year.
As Kas will come to the Eifelrace in September and we thought it would be a
great idea to have a onetime only Kastner Cup in Europe.

To all European Triumph racers....this is your chance to win this trophy and
KEEP it!

Cheers
Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:49:44 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:49:44 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <OF016A0918.EE8BF145-ONC12578E9.005BA22E@LocalDomain>
References: <OF016A0918.EE8BF145-ONC12578E9.005BA22E@LocalDomain>
Message-ID: <006301cc5846$ae2a1410$0a7e3c30$@com>

Hi Peter,

the event takes place from 9th to 11th - Friday to Sunday.
The 3H race of the Triumph Competition and other series is a Saturday late
afternoon to early evening.
Start about 17.00 o'clock.
Practice is at Saturday morning.
At Sunday at 14.00 we have a 30 minute race to fill the Sunday with action.

Entry form (just for information)
http://tr-register.de/joomla/images/stories/tr-register/Sport/PDF/tr_register
_eifelrennen_2011.pdf
Schedule
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&
id=4&Itemid=84
Paddock
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/images/stories/dokumente/2011/orientierungspla
n_070611_neu.pdf


Cheers
Chris


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:51:27 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:51:27 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
References: <OF016A0918.EE8BF145-ONC12578E9.005BA22E@LocalDomain> 
Message-ID: <006701cc5846$ec100690$c43013b0$@com>

Sorry - they pulled us earlier as I see.

15.40 is the race at Saturday.

Cheers
Chris

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 18:50
An: 'peter.bulkowski at mercedes-benz.ca'
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net'
Betreff: AW: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace

Hi Peter,

the event takes place from 9th to 11th - Friday to Sunday.
The 3H race of the Triumph Competition and other series is a Saturday late
afternoon to early evening.
Start about 17.00 o'clock.
Practice is at Saturday morning.
At Sunday at 14.00 we have a 30 minute race to fill the Sunday with action.

Entry form (just for information)
http://tr-register.de/joomla/images/stories/tr-register/Sport/PDF/tr_register
_eifelrennen_2011.pdf
Schedule
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&
id=4&Itemid=84
Paddock
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/images/stories/dokumente/2011/orientierungspla
n_070611_neu.pdf


Cheers
Chris


From gaf3 at charter.net  Thu Aug 11 13:19:20 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:19:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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I have been using platigauge for years. Works great. Just built an 
engine last month and have two in process right now.
I check out of round of the journals with a digital mic, but bearing 
clearances with platigauge on the mains and rods.
Most of my engine builds have been street performance engines and I 
always have my automotive machine shop grind and polish the crank.
I'm old school and used to use an inside mike on the ID then check the 
difference to the OD (PITA).
Glenn
On 8/11/2011 11:56 AM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
> Chris,
>
> I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine how to size the journals.
>
> I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the machinst and/or check clearances
>
> while the motor is in the car.
>
>
>
> Jim G


From jerrybarr at charter.net  Thu Aug 11 13:30:28 2011
From: jerrybarr at charter.net (Jerry Barr)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:30:28 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>
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	<4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>
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I assemble the bearing caps on the block then use a dial bore gage or inside
micrometer to determine the size and roundness of the bearing bore. Then
install the bearings and retorque the caps and check the inside diameter of
the bearings for size and roundness. Or just use plastigage.
On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Glenn Franco wrote:

> I have been using platigauge for years. Works great. Just built an engine
last month and have two in process right now.
> I check out of round of the journals with a digital mic, but bearing
clearances with platigauge on the mains and rods.
> Most of my engine builds have been street performance engines and I always
have my automotive machine shop grind and polish the crank.
> I'm old school and used to use an inside mike on the ID then check the
difference to the OD (PITA).
> Glenn
> On 8/11/2011 11:56 AM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine
how to size the journals.
>>
>> I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the
machinst and/or check clearances
>>
>> while the motor is in the car.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim G
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Thu Aug 11 17:51:08 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:51:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY
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When in April so I can make sure I schedule it. I wanna go real bad!

On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:17 AM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> Mark your calendars and make your plans:
> 
> 
> APRIL  2012
> 
> 10TH RUNNING OF THE KASTNER CUP
> 
> Road Atlanta
> 
> Kas Kastner is the GRAND MARSHALL of this HSR event known as
> 
> THE MITTY
> 
> Henry Frye is CHAIRMAN of this FOT event and is working with Andy Reid of
> Classic Motorsports.
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 11 17:55:03 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:55:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY
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	<31289744-9B1E-46EB-B502-487E555EE2AD@aol.com>
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The last weekend in April.

 Henry will be publishing the general details as FOT EVENT CHAIRMAN.

Everyone should be flying their new FOT FLAGS.

JOE A.









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To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2011 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY


When in April so I can make sure I schedule it. I wanna go real bad!

On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:17 AM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> Mark your calendars and make your plans:
>
>
> APRIL  2012
>
> 10TH RUNNING OF THE KASTNER CUP
>
> Road Atlanta
>
> Kas Kastner is the GRAND MARSHALL of this HSR event known as
>
> THE MITTY
>
> Henry Frye is CHAIRMAN of this FOT event and is working with Andy Reid of
> Classic Motorsports.
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From kaskas at cox.net  Fri Aug 12 18:27:36 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:27:36 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FW: 1965 Sebring ...
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This is the 1965 race for the factory Spitfire coupes that I ran that year.
This is the time the right rear tire floated away in the pits during a tire
change to wet tires.  Fun now to see, but terrible then. I had a cheap  cowboy
hat and it kind of melted and hung down over my ears when Jim Hall went out of
the pits and covered me with a wave of water. Bolton had crashed the lead
Spitfire on the 5th lap  but the other two cars finished for second and third
in the catagory.

Never be beaten by equipment
 From: rj8083 at verizon.net
To: rj8083 at verizon.net
Subject: 1965 Sebring ...
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:46:41 -0500



1965 Sebring 12-Hour Race

5.2 mile course w/famous names & cars, & trite "What's it like out there"
commentary.
No ARMCO, no firesuits, no driveover bridge to the paddock, a few haybales,
etc. Enjoy!

Part 1/5, ~5 min

Part 2/5, ~5 min

Part 3/5, ~3 min

Part 4/5, ~6 min

Part 5/5, ~5.5 min
No virus found in this incoming message.
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Aug 12 20:39:39 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:39:39 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
In-Reply-To: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
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Message-ID: <4E45E3EB.1050108@bradakis.com>

Oops.  There's an issue involving Webers I *really* need to deal with ASAP.
Thanks for the reminder.

mjb.


From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 13 10:02:34 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:02:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] who's going
Message-ID: <1313251354.89272.YahooMailRC@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Two races ....  

Who plans to do the midwestern council race at RA?

and ....
Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at RA?
 
Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire


From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 13 12:59:46 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Was anyone close to Mark Joslyn?
Message-ID: <1313261986.18547.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I bought some items from Mark's estate and among them was a great large
picture of him driving the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile.  Unfortunately, I didn't
know Mark but I'm betting some of you did and would be a better place for this
picture than me.  I'll be happy to ship it to someone that would appreciate it
:-)

Jamie Palmer


From jason at multivintage.com  Sat Aug 13 13:24:09 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:24:09 +0000
Subject: [Fot] who's going
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I'll be there with my GT6.
Hope everything holds up as I'm racing at Grattan the week before which is hard on the car. I've been preping the car nightly for weeks. Looking forward to some serious racing action in back to back weekends!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:02:34 
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] who's going

Two races ....  

Who plans to do the midwestern council race at RA?

and ....
Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at RA?
 
Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire
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From Gt6steve at aol.com  Sat Aug 13 13:37:45 2011
From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:37:45 EDT
Subject: [Fot] who's going
Message-ID: <9896.1c288811.3b782c89@aol.com>

So I guess the clutch worked???  Yaaaaahooooo!!
 
 
In a message dated 8/13/2011 12:28:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
jason at multivintage.com writes:

I'll be  there with my GT6.
Hope everything holds up as I'm racing at Grattan the  week before which is 
hard on the car. I've been preping the car nightly for  weeks. Looking 
forward to some serious racing action in back to back  weekends!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
Sent via BlackBerry  by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
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Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat,  13 Aug 2011 09:02:34 
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot]  who's going

Two races ....  

Who plans to do the midwestern  council race at RA?

and ....
Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at  RA?

Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sat Aug 13 15:25:05 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:25:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] who's going
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I'll be at ELVF...

Tony

At 11:02 AM 8/13/2011, tom strange wrote:
>Two races ....
>
>Who plans to do the midwestern council race at RA?
>
>and ....
>Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at RA?
>
>Tom
>http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm
>
>
>#4 white spitfire
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From triosan at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 22:36:53 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:36:53 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

-- 
Chuck Arnold


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Aug 14 00:52:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:52:35 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
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I use the same setup with a 1.5 ohm coil but do use a 1.5 ohm resistor.
Works fine.
The coil is a red bosch one.

Cheers 
Chris
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Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:36:53 
To: Friends<fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation

I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

-- 
Chuck Arnold
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Aug 14 04:20:42 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:20:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>

you might check in with Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors.

like Sean says, 'he is passionate about distributors'>

he will likely recommend a Bosch.

send the whole assembly to him and he will set it up to your engine
specifications.






-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley <triosan at gmail.com>
To: Friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 11:40 pm
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation


I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

--
Chuck Arnold
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Sun Aug 14 05:55:43 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:55:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9059CADAE5EB4C288067845C769CD18E@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi Chuck, I run a Pertronix brand distributor and have been told that a 0.6 
ohm coil is needed with that dist. No ballast needed.
It's been working fine for a couple years. I did have a coil fail last year 
but I think that falls under the crap happens thing. No further problems.
Is your charging system OK? Just wondering.
Good luck.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" <triosan at gmail.com>
To: "Friends" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:36 AM
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation


>I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
> electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
> combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to 
> believe
> the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 
> 1.5
> ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
> problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run 
> [nut
> that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
> early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The 
> first
> session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
> and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the 
> car
> died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel 
> system
> was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
> session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and 
> then
> it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
> after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so 
> I
> replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
> hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
> This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have 
> had
> a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
> the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
> chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind 
> the
> wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
> tows in a day they owned the car.
>
> So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
> Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast? 
> Am
> thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but 
> no
> sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix 
> tech
> support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
> Chuck Arnold
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Aug 14 07:18:39 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:18:39 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000e01cc5a84$b0f4adf0$12de09d0$@com>

I cannot recommend to use the resistor which does come with the Bosch coil.
The resistor gets hot and its value rises from 1.6 to 1.9 Ohms.
If so then you have trouble to start the car when it's hot during a race.
The coil itself is doing very well.

I replaced that resistor with a 1.5Ohms 25Watt unit which works fine so far.
But I carry a replacement of 100 Watt if the 25W would fail one day.

Cheers
Chris


-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von n197tr4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. August 2011 12:21
An: triosan at gmail.com; fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Coil recommendation

you might check in with Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors.

like Sean says, 'he is passionate about distributors'>

he will likely recommend a Bosch.

send the whole assembly to him and he will set it up to your engine
specifications.






-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley <triosan at gmail.com>
To: Friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 11:40 pm
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation


I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

--
Chuck Arnold
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From malaboge at aol.com  Sun Aug 14 16:09:29 2011
From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:09:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot]  Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <8CE28CE79034D0B-2180-20E83@Webmail-d104.sysops.aol.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com><8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>
	<000e01cc5a84$b0f4adf0$12de09d0$@com>
	<8CE28CE79034D0B-2180-20E83@Webmail-d104.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE28E5F8F8F92E-186C-5F058@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com>

Chris-

I have run a similar setup with similar issues.  I installed a "ballast
bypass" to a switch on the dash.  Bypass the ballast to start and then open
the circuit to run through the resistor.  It was not something that you could
forget to do as the toggle I used was a "momentary" switch, ie. you had to
hold it on while starting and as soon as you let go it opened that circuit.

Why are those silly electrons so important...you can't even see 'em...
Nick in Nor Cal







-----Original Message-----
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2011 6:25 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil recommendation


I cannot recommend to use the resistor which does come with the Bosch coil.
he resistor gets hot and its value rises from 1.6 to 1.9 Ohms.
f so then you have trouble to start the car when it's hot during a race.
he coil itself is doing very well.
I replaced that resistor with a 1.5Ohms 25Watt unit which works fine so far.
ut I carry a replacement of 100 Watt if the 25W would fail one day.
Cheers
hris


From cwnfot at gmail.com  Sun Aug 14 18:04:56 2011
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:04:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bob Tulius at Lime Rock over Labor Day weekend.
Message-ID: <000101cc5ade$f80d4300$e827c900$@com>

Lime Rock press release (I'll be there crewing for #928 MGTD)
More information at www.limerock.com :

The best vintage racing festival and Concours on the East Coast is here at
Lime Rock Park Labor Day weekend, September 2  5, and we wanted to tell you
about some of the highlights.
 
Its called Historic Festival 29 Presented by Jaguar  the companion event
is the Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs  and for the
Saturday and Monday races, Chairman Murray Smith was able to gather the
largest field in the history of the event: 321 cars!
 
As an example of the increasing prestige of Lime Rock Parks Historic
Festival, there are cars coming from all over the world just to race here:
Australia, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland,
Antigua  even New Jersey!
 
There are 12 race groups, from pre-war to the 50s- and 60s-eras, plus a
tremendous group of F2, Formula Ford and Formula Junior open-wheelers from
the 60s and 70s. Fantastic...
 
There are two special race groups, too: a Jaguar-only field and an MG-only
group.
 
The Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs will present close
to 600 cars parked on the race track for show, including special Shelby and
MG collections! The 200+ Concours entrants will pack the front straight,
while the Car Show and Gathering of the Clubs will cover the rest of the
track.
 
We also want to tell you that there are three very special racing people
coming to Historic Festival 29.
 
The Honored Guest is Bob Tullius, the former driver and team owner (Group
44) who made Jaguar such a successful racing organization in the 70s, 80s
and 90s. Hes a friendly, approachable star, so keep your ears open for the
PA announcements advising when hell be free to talk to the fans.
 
The Honored Collector is Dr. Fred Simeone, whose Simeone Foundation Auto
Museum in Philadelphia is considered one of the finest with respect to
significant race cars. Hes bringing four outstanding vehicles: a D Type
Jaguar, third at Sebring, to enhance Jaguar's presence at our event; a K3
MG, the best-placed of all MGs at Le Mans; the DBR1 Aston Martin World
Champion Sports Racer, one of the best looking racing cars ever built; and
an Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 with a fabulous body by the house of Castagna,
absolutely unrestored (like the K3), and also like the MG, in a true state
of grace.

Clark


From triosan at gmail.com  Sun Aug 14 22:07:47 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:07:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Who on the list is contact for autometer?
Message-ID: <CAMc4sND+4537jRF_0t+1mHnXMUVk+DuAiRD055wUgrwus1gZoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Need a tach.

-- 
Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley


From jkhagen at charter.net  Mon Aug 15 07:30:21 2011
From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:30:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Bob Tulius at Lime Rock over Labor Day weekend.
Message-ID: <7efc2f15.4e2b8.131cda2c538.Webtop.44@charter.net>

There are at least 4 cars going from Mpls, Mn area   It is also MG 
feature event
so I'll take the MG powered TVR--[sorry]--The following week to Watkins 
Glen
if everything is still turning!   John Hagen [TR-4]


On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Clark W. Nicholls wrote:

> Lime Rock press release (I'll be there crewing for #928 MGTD)
> More information at www.limerock.com :
>
> The best vintage racing festival and Concours on the East Coast is 
> here at
> Lime Rock Park Labor Day weekend, September 2  5, and we wanted to 
> tell you
> about some of the highlights.
>  Its called Historic Festival 29 Presented by Jaguar  the companion 
> event
> is the Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs  and for 
> the
> Saturday and Monday races, Chairman Murray Smith was able to gather 
> the
> largest field in the history of the event: 321 cars!
>  As an example of the increasing prestige of Lime Rock Parks Historic
> Festival, there are cars coming from all over the world just to race 
> here:
> Australia, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland,
> Antigua  even New Jersey!
>  There are 12 race groups, from pre-war to the 50s- and 60s-eras, plus 
> a
> tremendous group of F2, Formula Ford and Formula Junior open-wheelers 
> from
> the 60s and 70s. Fantastic...
>  There are two special race groups, too: a Jaguar-only field and an 
> MG-only
> group.
>  The Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs will present 
> close
> to 600 cars parked on the race track for show, including special 
> Shelby and
> MG collections! The 200+ Concours entrants will pack the front 
> straight,
> while the Car Show and Gathering of the Clubs will cover the rest of 
> the
> track.
>  We also want to tell you that there are three very special racing 
> people
> coming to Historic Festival 29.
>  The Honored Guest is Bob Tullius, the former driver and team owner 
> (Group
> 44) who made Jaguar such a successful racing organization in the 70s, 
> 80s
> and 90s. Hes a friendly, approachable star, so keep your ears open for 
> the
> PA announcements advising when hell be free to talk to the fans.
>  The Honored Collector is Dr. Fred Simeone, whose Simeone Foundation 
> Auto
> Museum in Philadelphia is considered one of the finest with respect to
> significant race cars. Hes bringing four outstanding vehicles: a D 
> Type
> Jaguar, third at Sebring, to enhance Jaguar's presence at our event; a 
> K3
> MG, the best-placed of all MGs at Le Mans; the DBR1 Aston Martin World
> Champion Sports Racer, one of the best looking racing cars ever built; 
> and
> an Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 with a fabulous body by the house of Castagna,
> absolutely unrestored (like the K3), and also like the MG, in a true 
> state
> of grace.
>
> Clark
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>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 08:15:02 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:15:02 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
Message-ID: <006401cc5b55$ba9841b0$2fc8c510$@com>

Here are some nice shots of the DTM touring car races of the early 90ties on
the Nordschleife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsqBRyPs1HU&feature=related

Cheers
Chris


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 08:49:56 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:49:56 +0200
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
	<002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <006901cc5b5a$9c26bb30$d4743190$@com>

This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
Good to know that.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
An: MadMarx
Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Have you found this webpage:

http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20


Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
To: 'Friends of Triumph'
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Hi Guys,

I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late that
one wheel is a 5.5" one.
He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.

Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?

Cheers
Chris
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon Aug 15 09:03:41 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:03:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com><002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com><CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
	<006901cc5b5a$9c26bb30$d4743190$@com>
Message-ID: <564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close.
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
> Good to know that.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
> An: MadMarx
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Have you found this webpage:
>
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MadMarx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph'
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that
> one wheel is a 5.5" one.
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From REK46 at aol.com  Mon Aug 15 09:06:56 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:06:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] new member
Message-ID: <cf88c.5beeead8.3b7a9010@aol.com>

Last week I nominated Chris Crisenberry, and there were plenty of 'seconds' 
 so I assume he is voted in...How does he start to get emails? He has not 
seen  any yet....his  email is "  _spitracer1296 at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:spitracer1296 at yahoo.com)    "...rick


From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 09:25:43 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:25:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
Message-ID: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>

Don't know if you have heard.  FYI.  

 

Craig

 

It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 

John (JR) Herrera.  His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the 

arrangements.  As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be 

determined.  I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on.  May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.


From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Aug 15 09:41:09 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:41:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>
References: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>
Message-ID: <36BA8103-01D7-4EA6-A975-79B3FAF15A18@me.com>

I will miss John.  I know his health was lousy, and he struggled to make his way around the paddock, but he had a great sense of humor, knew his Triumphs, and always helped out with parts and tools in the paddock.  He had a way with the written word and his comments will be sorely missed.  I'll remember him in that pale blue TR3 or in his old pick-up truck.  A life cut too short, for sure.  We'll have to have a ceremony/toast for him at the Turkey Bowl this year.


On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Craig wrote:

Don't know if you have heard.  FYI.  



Craig



It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 

John (JR) Herrera.  His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the 

arrangements.  As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be 

determined.  I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on.  May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.
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From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 09:46:12 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:46:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <36BA8103-01D7-4EA6-A975-79B3FAF15A18@me.com>
References: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>
	<36BA8103-01D7-4EA6-A975-79B3FAF15A18@me.com>
Message-ID: <005601cc5b62$7c8ed5c0$75ac8140$@net>

Sounds good to me 

 

Craig

 

From: Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:41 AM
To: Craig
Cc: FOT (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend

 

I will miss John.  I know his health was lousy, and he struggled to make his
way around the paddock, but he had a great sense of humor, knew his
Triumphs, and always helped out with parts and tools in the paddock.  He had
a way with the written word and his comments will be sorely missed.  I'll
remember him in that pale blue TR3 or in his old pick-up truck.  A life cut
too short, for sure.  We'll have to have a ceremony/toast for him at the
Turkey Bowl this year.

 

 

On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Craig wrote:

 

Don't know if you have heard.  FYI.  



Craig



It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 

John (JR) Herrera.  His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the 

arrangements.  As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be 

determined.  I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on.  May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.
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From harmug at us.ibm.com  Mon Aug 15 10:27:43 2011
From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:27:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 57, Issue 20
In-Reply-To: <mailman.33711.1313422909.3301.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <OF1659E526.786DBE70-ON852578ED.0059C620-852578ED.005A6E6D@us.ibm.com>

Bob Tulius at Limerock Labor day weekend.

As an example of the increasing prestige of Lime Rock Park's Historic
Festival, there are cars coming from all over the world just to race here:
Australia, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland,
Antigua  even New Jersey!

I'll be there with the #7 , 63 Spitfire, towing all the way from
Poughkeepsie, NY (40 minutes).
 Someone has to stand up to the MGs.

mike

63 spit
70 GT6+
72 MK4
77 1500
2 (80) 1500s

plus assorted running cars

G. Michael Harmuth


From sgroh1 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 11:11:15 2011
From: sgroh1 at comcast.net (sgroh1 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:11:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <005601cc5b62$7c8ed5c0$75ac8140$@net>
Message-ID: <327522076.183202.1313428275559.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Damn.B  John was always ready to lend his knowledge and experience, whether
trackside or not.B  One of the most valuable lessons he taught me was patience
in the pits, and keeping a humorous attitude in the paddock.B  I will miss him
greatly, but I'll have a navigatorB beside me at every race.B  Rest in Peace,
John.

Steve



----- Original Message -----


From: "Craig" <wensley_tr at comcast.net>
To: "Scott Janzen" <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: "FOT (E-mail)" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:46:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend

Sounds good to me

B 

Craig

B 

From: Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:41 AM
To: Craig
Cc: FOT (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend

B 

I will miss John. B I know his health was lousy, and he struggled to make his
way around the paddock, but he had a great sense of humor, knew his
Triumphs, and always helped out with parts and tools in the paddock. B He had
a way with the written word and his comments will be sorely missed. B I'll
remember him in that pale blue TR3 or in his old pick-up truck. B A life cut
too short, for sure. B We'll have to have a ceremony/toast for him at the
Turkey Bowl this year.

B 

B 

On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Craig wrote:

B 

Don't know if you have heard. B FYI. B 



Craig



It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of

John (JR) Herrera. B His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the

arrangements. B As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be

determined. B I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on. B May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.
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From Catpusher at aol.com  Mon Aug 15 14:18:53 2011
From: Catpusher at aol.com (Catpusher at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:18:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Back to Laguna
Message-ID: <1585d.5ddb4002.3b7ad92d@aol.com>

FOT,
 
We hope to see some of you at Laguna this week.
 
We were sent this link from the Kastner Cup event:
 
_http://laprecord.com/Part-355-2011%20KK1/Pt-Index.htm_ 
(http://laprecord.com/Part-355-2011%20KK1/Pt-Index.htm) 


TR Regards,
 
Hardy & Ellie


From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 14:49:18 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:49:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Passing of another Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <327522076.183202.1313428275559.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <327522076.183202.1313428275559.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2DA6BDFF-0E91-4AA5-92E1-6FCA849E11FA@gmail.com>

Chris Lawrence, 78, creator of the 1962 Morgan Plus 4 LeMans class winner
(from which the mighty factory Plus 4 Super Sports model was designed), died
Saturday.  Proprietor of Lawrence Tune, he also designed the Abarth-beating
Deep Sanderson, the stillborn Monica grand touring car, and the recent Morgan
Aero 8.

The guy knew a thing or two about TR engines and suspension design  He
invented the Lawrence link suspension to get around the flaws inherent in the
VW beetle front suspension he had previously used on his Formula Junior racer,
allowing camber recovery and no change in roll center, putting him ahead of
Lotus 18s on occasion.

A bit more here: http://www.lawrence-tune.co.uk/

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red


From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Aug 15 15:04:17 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:04:17 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
Message-ID: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods. 

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex


From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Aug 15 15:22:39 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:22:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>

These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery and the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.

Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you over-stretch one!

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods. 

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Mon Aug 15 15:21:54 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:21:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DCFB@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Find the markings on the top of the rod bolts and call Carrillo's tech
people.  Actually, hang on a sec....

Here...

http://www.cp-carrillo.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=rGOOtq6Rn%2fY%3d&ta
bid=76

I'd torque to the value set in the chart, not the stock number.
Carrillo told me the bolts are "good for the life of the rod" - but not
if you over-torque them, I'd imagine.

I just had to answer this question on the Carrillo rods in my Spit and
found this on their web site.  Find the markings on the bolt heads and
this chart will tell you the torque.

You might want to ask someone more savvy than I, but I wonder whether
you might want to be sure that your rods were last reconditioned with
the bolts torqued at the same value.

Scott B.



-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:04 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and
the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Aug 15 15:31:15 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:31:15 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>
Message-ID: <006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch>

Thank you Scott !

Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which is
similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not so
slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPs lube which is the
slipperiest stuff in circulation).

I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.

In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the 3/8
WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.

Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?

Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
Thank you !

Cheers

Alex



De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
Envoyi : lundi 15 ao{t 2011 23:23
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing



These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on
them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery
and the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.



Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you
over-stretch one!



On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:



Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Mon Aug 15 15:31:19 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:31:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <009901cc5b92$ac57a680$0506f380$@rr.com>

Typically Carillo rods have the bolts torque based on stretch. At least in
Spitfires that's the way it is. Had to buy another gadget but all went well
after a little sweat and nerves. I suggest you contact Carillo, their tech
guys are real helpful and there's probably no better resource for your
question. I bought the stretch gauge at Summit Racing. I can send a picture
if you need and probably their part number.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:04 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods. 

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Aug 15 15:42:28 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott janzen)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:42:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>
	<006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>

Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch gauge,
however.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:

> Thank you Scott !
>
> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which is
similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not so
slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is the
slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>
> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>
> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the 3/8
WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>
> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>
> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
> Thank you !
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
> C : Alexandre Camoletti
> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>
>
>
> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on
them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery and
the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>
>
>
> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you
over-stretch one!
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>
>
>
> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>
> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>
> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>
> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>
> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Aug 15 15:52:01 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:52:01 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DCFB@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DCFB@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
Message-ID: <007901cc5b95$91f2e090$b5d8a1b0$@camoletti.ch>

Thank you Barr! Yes this is the sheet that came with the (new) set and where
I came with the max figure  of 40lbs.
So I will stick to that (and maybe purchase the stretch gauge).
Cheers!
Alex

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Barr, Scott [mailto:sbarr at McCarty-Law.com]
Envoyi : lundi 15 ao{t 2011 23:22
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : RE: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Find the markings on the top of the rod bolts and call Carrillo's tech
people.  Actually, hang on a sec....

Here...

http://www.cp-carrillo.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=rGOOtq6Rn%2fY%3d&ta
bid=76

I'd torque to the value set in the chart, not the stock number.
Carrillo told me the bolts are "good for the life of the rod" - but not if
you over-torque them, I'd imagine.

I just had to answer this question on the Carrillo rods in my Spit and found
this on their web site.  Find the markings on the bolt heads and this chart
will tell you the torque.

You might want to ask someone more savvy than I, but I wonder whether you
might want to be sure that your rods were last reconditioned with the bolts
torqued at the same value.

Scott B.



-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:04 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 15:56:21 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:56:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>
	<006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch>
	<109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
Message-ID: <2E5273E0-CE99-4631-89E1-8A20D05C07B2@gmail.com>

Can't stretch be determined with calipers, using before and after
measurements?
Duncan

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Scott janzen wrote:

> Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
> over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch
gauge,
> however.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Scott !
>>
>> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which
is
> similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not
so
> slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is
the
> slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>>
>> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>>
>> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the
3/8
> WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>>
>> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>>
>> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
>> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
>> C : Alexandre Camoletti
>> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
>> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>>
>>
>>
>> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
> material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
> required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
> about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
> instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use
on
> them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
> lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery
and
> the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
> indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if
you
> over-stretch one!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>>
>> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and
the
>> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>>
>> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>>
>> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>>
>> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 15:57:26 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:57:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch><6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com><006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch><109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.35.1638251572.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

My rods have ARP bolts and I torque them up with 45 (3/8"). I habe a table chart for each bolt and do measue each bolt after usage.
Non of the bolts were ever replaced as the bolt length did not change so far.
Cheers
Chris
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:42:28 
To: Alexandre Camoletti<ac at camoletti.ch>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net<fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch gauge,
however.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:

> Thank you Scott !
>
> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which is
similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not so
slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is the
slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>
> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>
> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the 3/8
WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>
> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>
> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
> Thank you !
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
> C : Alexandre Camoletti
> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>
>
>
> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on
them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery and
the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>
>
>
> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you
over-stretch one!
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>
>
>
> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>
> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>
> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>
> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>
> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 16:02:12 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:02:12 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <2E5273E0-CE99-4631-89E1-8A20D05C07B2@gmail.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch><6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com><006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch><109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com><2E5273E0-CE99-4631-89E1-8A20D05C07B2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.36.1638251572.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

Yes!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:56:21 
To: fot<fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Can't stretch be determined with calipers, using before and after
measurements?
Duncan

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Scott janzen wrote:

> Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
> over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch
gauge,
> however.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Scott !
>>
>> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which
is
> similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not
so
> slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is
the
> slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>>
>> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>>
>> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the
3/8
> WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>>
>> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>>
>> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
>> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
>> C : Alexandre Camoletti
>> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
>> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>>
>>
>>
>> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
> material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
> required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
> about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
> instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use
on
> them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
> lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery
and
> the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
> indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if
you
> over-stretch one!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>>
>> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and
the
>> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>>
>> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>>
>> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>>
>> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Mon Aug 15 17:32:04 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1313451124.73458.YahooMailRC@web180601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Chuck, I am running a Crane system on a TR6 and using their coil (LX 91) and
bypassing the resistor wire.  i don't have a lot of time on it yet but so far
everything seems to be working great.  I read somewhere and it sounded very
reasonable at the time that if you run a hot coil with the resistor wire, then
you get no benefit from the hot coil.  I have two TR6s, one street and one
otherwise, and neither uses the resistor wire.  Jim
________________________________
From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
<triosan at gmail.com>
To: Friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, August 13,
2011 9:36:53 PM
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation

I have a Pertronix
distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have
a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I
had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so
I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a
couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move
to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I
burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on
the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it
had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes
into the session the car
died.  After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking,
determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed
that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for
two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first
thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not
functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point
checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same
results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should
have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car
died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows
in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone
have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm
coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix
non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for
advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there
answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

-- 
Chuck Arnold
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From m-syork at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 20:56:33 2011
From: m-syork at comcast.net (Mark York)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com><002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com><CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
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	<564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>
Message-ID: <001701cc5bc0$1c419410$54c4bc30$@net>

Charly
These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with
Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:04 AM
To: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close.
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
> Good to know that.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
> An: MadMarx
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Have you found this webpage:
>
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MadMarx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph'
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that
> one wheel is a 5.5" one.
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 23:37:07 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:37:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <001701cc5bc0$1c419410$54c4bc30$@net>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com><002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com><CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
	<006901cc5b5a$9c26bb30$d4743190$@com>
	<564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly><001701cc5bc0$1c419410$54c4bc30$@net>
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How much would be way too much?

Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mark York" <m-syork at comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:33 
To: 'Charly Mitchel'<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>; 'MadMarx'<tr4racing at googlemail.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Charly
These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with
Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:04 AM
To: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close.
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
> Good to know that.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
> An: MadMarx
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Have you found this webpage:
>
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MadMarx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph'
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that
> one wheel is a 5.5" one.
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Aug 16 08:25:03 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:25:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <001701cc5bc0$1c419410$54c4bc30$@net>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com><002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com><CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
	<006901cc5b5a$9c26bb30$d4743190$@com>
	<564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>
	<001701cc5bc0$1c419410$54c4bc30$@net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108161020300.20913@isis.mit.edu>

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Mark York wrote:

> Charly
> These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with
> Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting.
> Mark

If the wheels are all as good as the one depicted and they include the 
American Racing center cap, then they are def. worth some money. 
Center caps are scarce as hens' teeth.

I'm just saying.

I wouldn't buy that set for my race car, though.

Also note that the one pictured is a 5.5" rim. The 5.5" rim has a rib 
where the spokes connect to the outer rim, the 6.0" is flat there.

regards,
rml
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From m-syork at comcast.net  Tue Aug 16 11:15:21 2011
From: m-syork at comcast.net (m-syork at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:15:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <1546606614-1313473030-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1252394901-@b16.c2.bise7.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I had a set of ARE LeMans wheels on a TR4A that I owned long ago and was curious to see what the cost of a set would be for a TR4 I currently own. 
For a "restored" set of 5.5" or 6" x 15"with 4 x 4.5 bolt pattern I was quoted $1200. The price did not include the lug nuts which are shouldered and can be difficult to find. 
I ended up buying a set of Panasports from Spruell Motorsports in Atlanta for around $800. 
I also remember the LeMans wheel needing spacers on the front to avoid grinding the inside of the wheel. 
The quote I got was about 8 months ago 
But I do like the looks of the LeMans wheel. 
Regards 
Mark 

----- Original Message -----
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com 
To: "Mark York" <m-syork at comcast.net>, "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>, fot at autox.team.net 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:37:07 PM 
Subject: AW: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 

How much would be way too much? 

Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone 

-----Original Message----- 
From: "Mark York" <m-syork at comcast.net> 
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:33 
To: 'Charly Mitchel'<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>; 'MadMarx'<tr4racing at googlemail.com>; <fot at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 

Charly 
These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with 
Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting. 
Mark 

-----Original Message----- 
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:04 AM 
To: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close. 
Charly Mitchel 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
To: <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident. 
> Good to know that. 
> 
> Cheers 
> Chris 
> 
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- 
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com] 
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42 
> An: MadMarx 
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 
> 
> Have you found this webpage: 
> 
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20 
> 
> 
> Bob Kramer 
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager 
> RDO Equipment Company 
> 16415 N. IH 35 Pflugerville, TX 78660 
> 512-687-7422 Office 
> 512-657-8526 Cell 
> 
> 
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn 
> out. ~John Wooden 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf Of MadMarx 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM 
> To: 'Friends of Triumph' 
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 
> 
> Hi Guys, 
> 
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that 
> one wheel is a 5.5" one. 
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4. 
> 
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel? 
> 
> Cheers 
> Chris 
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug 16 13:19:37 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:19:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
Message-ID: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>

There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
computer.... in relative isolation.

TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES

9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.

Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.

Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and more.

How do you deal with a guy like this?

I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine core cheap.

Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of Roberts
Johns who took me to this
mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....

Joe A.


From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Aug 16 13:36:59 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:36:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
In-Reply-To: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00a701cc5c4b$dd83d990$988b8cb0$@rr.com>

Does he have Lucas electrics in his house? (okay, I couldn't resist!)

Have him mark out an LZ and fly in with a single rotor......................

Russ Moore

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:20 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----

There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
computer.... in relative isolation.

TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES

9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.

Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.

Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and more.

How do you deal with a guy like this?

I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine core cheap.

Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of Roberts
Johns who took me to this
mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....

Joe A.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Aug 16 14:36:39 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:36:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
In-Reply-To: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CALCydYrtwiHUeQfS6FCjKfFjOzEUQw-9SzD06UF6QA5v3mMg1A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:19 PM, <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote
"How do you deal with a guy like this?"
Its quite simple, If you see something you like in this mysterious wonderful
place, Ask him How Much it is?
If the price seems right... pull the Cash out of your pocket and buy it from
him.
If the price seems to high... offer him less, (the amount you are willing to
pay)
The fact that he is isolated should actually work in your favor. The
important thing to remember in this situation is that CASH TALKS.
My Professional Opinion
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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From Lunkercars at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 16 15:09:18 2011
From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:09:18 -0600
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
In-Reply-To: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4CBC8A25-56A0-4BCE-8FBB-CCBE0776A4AF@earthlink.net>

I know exactly how to deal with the type. In fact it sounds like kin  
to the guy that started me with my TR stock... 9000' up the side of a  
New Mexico mountain to liberate a total of 14 cars/parts. Took Connie  
and I 4 trips, 3 trailers [only the single axle "shuttle" trailer  
would make it up], 2 four wheel drives [plus his Scout "mountain  
tug"] and about 1000 miles to get it done. And worth all that, every  
penny and every skinned knuckle. Give me a proximity and I'll be on  
my way [no address needed for this kind of guy].
Let me know - my drool is already becoming a problem.

Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM
On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:19 PM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
> computer.... in relative isolation.
>
> TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES
>
> 9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.
>
> Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.
>
> Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and  
> more.
>
> How do you deal with a guy like this?
>
> I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine  
> core cheap.
>
> Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of  
> Roberts
> Johns who took me to this
> mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....
>
> Joe A.
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>
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Tue Aug 16 15:35:19 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:35:19 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
In-Reply-To: <4CBC8A25-56A0-4BCE-8FBB-CCBE0776A4AF@earthlink.net>
References: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
	<4CBC8A25-56A0-4BCE-8FBB-CCBE0776A4AF@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD34@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Dunno how well this will work, but I just uploaded to Facebook a photo
of Chris Mills' stash here just north of Appleton WI (circa 1998, photo
credit to Kent Howard, erstwhile pilot of Little Red Riding Hard).  Gone
now, in the name of progress.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1070084715228.2010192.131940902
5&saved#!/photo.php?fbid=1912850503846&set=a.1070084715228.2010192.13194
09025&type=1&theater

Chris still has much of the mechanical bits and other portable parts.
These were, at the time of this photo, mostly the stripped and rusting
hulks.  He's got barns full of good stuff, but you can't reach him to
buy anything...

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:09 PM
To: n197tr4 at cs.com
Cc: fot friends
Subject: Re: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----

I know exactly how to deal with the type. In fact it sounds like kin
to the guy that started me with my TR stock... 9000' up the side of a
New Mexico mountain to liberate a total of 14 cars/parts. Took Connie
and I 4 trips, 3 trailers [only the single axle "shuttle" trailer
would make it up], 2 four wheel drives [plus his Scout "mountain
tug"] and about 1000 miles to get it done. And worth all that, every
penny and every skinned knuckle. Give me a proximity and I'll be on
my way [no address needed for this kind of guy].
Let me know - my drool is already becoming a problem.

Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM
On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:19 PM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
> computer.... in relative isolation.
>
> TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES
>
> 9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.
>
> Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.
>
> Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and
> more.
>
> How do you deal with a guy like this?
>
> I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine
> core cheap.
>
> Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of
> Roberts
> Johns who took me to this
> mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 16 21:10:37 2011
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:10:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of four 
delivered.
rotawheels.com

nfi
Dennis


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Aug 16 23:12:25 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:12:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
Message-ID: <mailman.38.1638251572.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

I heard nothing good about rota.
They are not Nordschleife safe.
Few tested them and they got cracks at the bolt area.

Cheers
Chris

------Originalnachricht------
Von: Dennis DeLap
An: m-syork at comcast.net
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
Gesendet: 17. Aug. 2011 05:10



ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of four 
delivered.
rotawheels.com

nfi
Dennis


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From deweerdm at rogers.com  Wed Aug 17 02:35:44 2011
From: deweerdm at rogers.com (MIKE DEWEERD)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 01:35:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Gear ratios
Message-ID: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Amici 
 I have a TR4A rear end here that seems to spin in the 2-1 range?? When one
wheel is held and the driveshaft is turned 2 times the wheel has made 1 full
turn.Going to pull the cover off tonight to look further into this.I don't
know of a ratio this low........any one??? it's a later model...guessing
1967.(parts car)ThanksMike Deweerd  TR4 #77


From goodparts at verizon.net  Wed Aug 17 05:03:33 2011
From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:03:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Gear ratios
In-Reply-To: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>

Mike,

If you are turning one wheel you will need to multiply the driveshaft turns 
by two to get the diff ratio.  2.05 turns of the driveshaft would equal a 
4.1 diff ratio.  To get more accurate you can turn one wheel 10 turns then 
divide the driveshaft turns by 5.

Richard Good
--------------------------------------------------
From: "MIKE DEWEERD" <deweerdm at rogers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:35 AM
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Gear ratios

> Amici
> I have a TR4A rear end here that seems to spin in the 2-1 range?? When one
> wheel is held and the driveshaft is turned 2 times the wheel has made 1 
> full
> turn.Going to pull the cover off tonight to look further into this.I don't
> know of a ratio this low........any one??? it's a later model...guessing
> 1967.(parts car)ThanksMike Deweerd  TR4 #77
> _______________________________________________


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Wed Aug 17 06:16:27 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:16:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

I knew I had seen some reproduction Libre wheels. VTO sells them in a 15x6
with a +3 offset. Might be a good racing option.

http://www.vtowheels.com/


Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Dennis DeLap
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:11 PM
To: m-syork at comcast.net; tr4racing at googlemail.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of
four delivered.
rotawheels.com

nfi
Dennis
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From jhd11 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 17 07:24:04 2011
From: jhd11 at hotmail.com (Joe Henry)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:24:04 +0000
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>

     VTO wheels can be purchased through Acme Speed Shop in S.C.  I am looking
at some for our TR6. Call Hap Waldrop.

Joe Downer
RiffRAF Racing TR6
Charlotte, N.C.

> From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com
> To: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net; m-syork at comcast.net;
tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:16:27 -0500
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> I knew I had seen some reproduction Libre wheels. VTO sells them in a 15x6
> with a +3 offset. Might be a good racing option.
>
> http://www.vtowheels.com/
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things
turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf
> Of Dennis DeLap
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:11 PM
> To: m-syork at comcast.net; tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of
> four delivered.
> rotawheels.com
>
> nfi
> Dennis
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 17 09:12:28 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:12:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"  now WHEEL SPACERS AVAILABLE
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE2B07362AD881-72C-6005@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com>

Speaking of wheels....

We just ran another 100 wheel spacers and will provide at FOT prices if any
one wants to do some tweaking on track.and clearance.

Joe






-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Henry <jhd11 at hotmail.com>
To: rkramer <rkramer at rdoequipment.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 17, 2011 8:30 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


     VTO wheels can be purchased through Acme Speed Shop in S.C.  I am
looking
at some for our TR6. Call Hap Waldrop.

Joe Downer
RiffRAF Racing TR6
Charlotte, N.C.

> From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com
> To: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net; m-syork at comcast.net;
tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:16:27 -0500
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> I knew I had seen some reproduction Libre wheels. VTO sells them in a 15x6
> with a +3 offset. Might be a good racing option.
>
> http://www.vtowheels.com/
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things
turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf
> Of Dennis DeLap
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:11 PM
> To: m-syork at comcast.net; tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of
> four delivered.
> rotawheels.com
>
> nfi
> Dennis
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Wed Aug 17 09:20:35 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:20:35 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Cape Coventry on a wing & a prayer
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds7665A2EF2E398FCBDAECBB7280@phx.gbl>

For those of you who weren't aware, John made it to Charleston in his big
Healy re: his sponsored Cancer drive.
He's now (Wed.) on I-40 heading to Albq. Low oil pressure, (19# @ 3500 &
leaking copious amounts of it) and wind burnt to beat the band...
Keep a good thought for him this leg of the return trip, it can't be pleasant
-

K Lynch


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Aug 17 12:37:00 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:37:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Length of Spitfire Pushrods?
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD5B@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I'm looking for a recommendation for the length of pushrods for a 1500
Spitfire as a starting place.  The head thickness is 2.906.  I'm
ordering a  set of lifters and tubular pushrods from Richard Good and
just need to tell him what length to make the pushrods.  I'm assuming I
should err on the long side, right?



Scott


From riverside at southslope.net  Wed Aug 17 12:58:35 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:58:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <DF7D804C-63A5-4CFF-B99C-5E5259232E97@charter.net>
References: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>
	<DF7D804C-63A5-4CFF-B99C-5E5259232E97@charter.net>
Message-ID: <03B55BF604B342088883458DF1798B72@rileyPC>

I have had poor luck measuring the bearing clearance across the parting line
with plastigage - a
dimension as important as the one 90 degrees from the parting line.   For 
that
reason I prefer dial bore gauges and micrometers.

art de armond

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jerry Barr
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:30 PM
To: Glenn Franco
Cc: Friends of triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

I assemble the bearing caps on the block then use a dial bore gage or inside
micrometer to determine the size and roundness of the bearing bore. Then
install the bearings and retorque the caps and check the inside diameter of
the bearings for size and roundness. Or just use plastigage.
On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Glenn Franco wrote:

> I have been using platigauge for years. Works great. Just built an engine
last month and have two in process right now.
> I check out of round of the journals with a digital mic, but bearing
clearances with platigauge on the mains and rods.
> Most of my engine builds have been street performance engines and I always
have my automotive machine shop grind and polish the crank.
> I'm old school and used to use an inside mike on the ID then check the
difference to the OD (PITA).
> Glenn
> On 8/11/2011 11:56 AM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine
how to size the journals.
>>
>> I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the
machinst and/or check clearances
>>
>> while the motor is in the car.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim G
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Aug 17 12:59:27 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:59:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] On The Grid at Grattan
Message-ID: <CALCydYrmvdW14hQ8isUY+DusXjojaRU7EnROG4VDbt7yHMMddA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings all!
We will have 6 FOT'ers on the grid for Grattan Raceway in Michigan this
weekend and a few others working and spectating
Grattan is a great track for spectating and totally awesome for driving.
Friday practice, Saturday full day of qualifying and races, Sunday another
full day.
Great party Saturday nite and my cooler is always full.
Representing a variety of models come see:

Dennis DeLap, TVR 2200S
Bill Dentinger, TR3
Tony Drews, TR4
Ryan Murphy, TR4
Jason Ostrowski, GT6+
Bob Wismer, TR4

Everyone accept me (Group 8) will be in group 2
Plus I'm running in the Trans Am B Sedan Feature race.

Gone racing!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Aug 17 13:14:32 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:14:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Length of Spitfire Pushrods?
In-Reply-To: <4E4C11BB.1050806@dfn.com>
References: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD5B@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
	<4E4C11BB.1050806@dfn.com>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD62@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I meant "long side" for the pushrods as ordered, so they could be cut
down after measuring.  Hard to lengthen the pushrods in a lathe.  Just
looking for the right length to start with...

Scott B.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Porter [mailto:mdporter at dfn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:09 PM
To: Barr, Scott
Subject: Re: [Fot] Length of Spitfire Pushrods?

On 8/17/2011 12:37 PM, Barr, Scott wrote:
> I'm assuming I
> should err on the long side, right?
>

Umm, no.  If you set the length to the long side, there's the
possibility of having them long enough that you can't get clearance even

with the adjusting screws backed out all the way, and then you burn
valves.


From WEmery7451 at aol.com  Wed Aug 17 20:35:56 2011
From: WEmery7451 at aol.com (WEmery7451 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:35:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
Message-ID: <7bb47.7c437084.3b7dd48c@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/15/11 8:30:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
wensley_tr at comcast.net writes:

<<  It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 
 
 John (JR) Herrera.   >>

This is a shame.  John is the one who encouraged me to take my crude tools 
to Charles Town, West VA, to participate in a TRA Convention three years 
ago.  I had fabricated these tools myself years ago for working on my TR-3.
</HTML>


From ac at camoletti.ch  Thu Aug 18 05:53:49 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:53:49 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll
Message-ID: <00bc01cc5d9d$7f8c46d0$7ea4d470$@camoletti.ch>

Gentlemen, re: the lip seal story : I finally opted for the Greg Solows
Chrysler seal conversion with the machined original seal holder to accept
this split seal. The diameter of the crank remains the same as stock, simply
the grooves on the crank are weld filled and polished to make a flat surface
for the seal.

duly centralised (see pix) with AREs tool (added gasket paper total 1mm
thick to make for the machined new ID of holder) and holder pressed together
with specially made tool.

Will let you know how it works when engine will be running.

Cheers!

Alex



De : Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
Envoyi : mardi 12 octobre 2010 08:38
@ : 'J.C. Hassall'; adcronin at mi.rr.com
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : RE: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll



Hi Jim ! Called yesterday this seal specialised company in Geneva, but split
lip seals are not used in the industry sot hey could not help.

But they provided an interesting info: lip compression on the shaft must be
max 10 to 12 10th of mm (1.0 to 1.2 mm). Depending on the manufacturer, but
all are within this range the engineer explained.

This means that for a shaft at 63.5, seal with the uncompressed lip must be
62.5 max ID (range 62.3-62.5).

If with this seal of 62.5 free ID the shaft is bigger than 63.5 or 63.7 OD
max, then the lip will not seat on the shaft as designed and the oil film in
between will not work and make the seal. Leaks.

Yesterday I measured the Moss seal lip when assembled and it measures
exactly at 62.5. So this is correct for a 63.5 axle.

But we have to be aware that lip seals are designed to withstand a pressure
of 0.5 bar usually. Not much. So important to relieve oil pressure on the
seal by drilling the recommended holes. Maybe fit an oil splash control
washer if possible?

So I will go for the 63.6 journal grind (this is the up tolerance leaflet
mentions) and drill the two 10mm additional holes. Maybe shorten the spring
slightly.

Cheers!

Alexandre



De : J.C. Hassall [mailto:jhassall at blacksburg.net]
Envoyi : mardi 12 octobre 2010 02:45
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Objet : Re: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll now MURPHY'S TOOL



On 10/11/2010 3:26 AM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:

Thank you Jim ! Keep us posted !

We have a specialised company here in Geneva for industry lip seals and
bearings, interesting to see what they advise. I will certainly replace the
seal provided with the kit, as it looks dubious quality (no markings, no
brand), with one from a reputable company, possibly made from Viton or some
modern material, and with double lip.

Will keep the FOT posted on my findings.

Cheers!

Alex

Good luck Alex, and by all means please keep us posted.  If there's a better
seal out there, your discovery will be welcome by all of us who got burned.

thanks,

jim





De : J.C. Hassall [mailto:jhassall at blacksburg.net]
Envoyi : samedi 9 octobre 2010 04:17
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : Re: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll now MURPHY'S TOOL



On 10/6/2010 2:17 AM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:

Question: All of you who got leaks with the 2.5'' grind drilled the
additional holes as per Moss'/Bastuck's damn instructions?

They propose/suggest to drill 2 additional holes 3/8'' to relieve pressure,
each side of the original hole in the main cap.

See drawing

Alex













Yup, I had mine drilled the same way.  And I have a reasonably good block
vent system, although I may go to an extractor system like Joe A recommends
if this go-around with the seal doesn't fix it.  If I were smart I'd trash
the crank and start over, but....

jim



--
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go





--
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go

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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Thu Aug 18 19:26:09 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 01:26:09 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Pocono SCCA National
Message-ID: <20110818.212609.10699.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Raced at Pocono this past weekend at the SCCA double National.  Got 3rd  both
days, behind a BMW 325 and and a Miata.  Sunday we had heavy rain.  I was 2nd
for most of the rain race, but the Miata got me on the last lap.

On Saturday I was behind a flaming fast Austin Healey Sprite for the 1st
couple of laps.  The flames finally melted through his shoulder harness, which
went through into the trunk, and he realized something was wrong and he pulled
off.  Fire system did not work.  It had been in the car 20 years and was never
serviced.  Emergency services got the fire out and damage did not spread
beyond the boot.  Mostly it was the composite boot lid that melted.

A video is posted on You Tube at the following link.  Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_cA824CK_4


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From deruiterville at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 19 07:55:22 2011
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:55:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>

And Hap just announced he has the LeMans style wheels now in stock at 15x6 and
15x7 sizes, in addition to the Libre style that has been out for about a
year.

Randy


>
> VTO wheels can be purchased through Acme Speed Shop in S.C. I am looking
> at some for our TR6. Call Hap Waldrop.
>
> Joe Downer
> RiffRAF Racing TR6
> Charlotte, N.C.


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Fri Aug 19 08:08:00 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:08:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote:

> And Hap just announced he has the LeMans style wheels now in stock at 15x6 and
> 15x7 sizes,

Figures. I finally put together a full set of American Racing LeMans 
wheels... it only took 16 or 17 years to get the 6" set complete!! OTOH, I 
have a lot of "history" there.

It looks like the vtoperformance.com web site doesn't show the LeMans 
wheels yet. When they do, I'll probably buy a set. They're my FAV.

regards,
rml
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From deruiterville at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 19 08:50:00 2011
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:50:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, , <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	, , <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>, ,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>,
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY150-W55BA0ADB65D18E9DB6755FB92A0@phx.gbl>

Hap has a pic or maybe a computer rendering of their LeMans version posted at
the bottom of this page:
http://www.acmespeedshop.com/wheels.html


>
> It looks like the vtoperformance.com web site doesn't show the LeMans
> wheels yet. When they do, I'll probably buy a set. They're my FAV.


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Aug 19 12:39:08 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:39:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spitfire Head Thickness?
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDB6@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I've seen a couple of lists of cylinder head thicknesses, compression
ratios, etc. floating around for the 6-cylinder cars and (I think) the
TR3/4 motors.  Any chance there's something similar out there for the
Spitfires?



I've got a later Spitfire head (god knows what year, but it's got the
air injection ports) and I'm trying to figure out its original thickness
compared to the present 2.906" thickness, so I can determine what length
pushrods to order as a starting point.



Scott B.


From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Fri Aug 19 22:56:55 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:56:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
Message-ID: <1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I saw that there were some posts on racing altenators not too long ago. 
Sorry, 
I didn't save them but now have the need.  Are there any available
that are a 
pretty easy hook up for a 1974 TR6.  Need something light and just
enough charge 
to keep the battery up.  Jim in Folsom, CA


From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sat Aug 20 21:33:01 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:33:01 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl>

John made it back to Monterey tonight -

A gritty, gutsy example of sheer determination -

Syncharitmria !


KL


From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sat Aug 20 22:32:14 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:32:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1917518838.456726.1313901134512.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Will we see John at Laguna tomorrow? 

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To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:33:01 PM 
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer! 

John made it back to Monterey tonight - 

A gritty, gutsy example of sheer determination - 

Syncharitmria ! 


KL 
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sun Aug 21 10:11:33 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:11:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl><1917518838.456726.1313901134512.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<1783430604-1313908588-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-642751010-@b14.c2.bise6.blackberry>
References: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl><1917518838.456726.1313901134512.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<1783430604-1313908588-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-642751010-@b14.c2.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds125CE27C3FE69C34BCFF7AB72C0@phx.gbl>

He is on his way to Pebble...

Kevin
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: admin at lateralgimages.com<mailto:admin at lateralgimages.com>
  To: davehogye<mailto:dlhogye at comcast.net> ;
fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> ; KEVIN
LYNCH<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>
  Cc: FOT<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!


  I saw him at the RM Auction tonight and he said he was coming to the track.
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  -----Original Message-----
  From: davehogye <dlhogye at comcast.net<mailto:dlhogye at comcast.net>>
  Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>
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  Subject: Re: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!

  Will we see John at Laguna tomorrow?

  ----- Original Message -----
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  To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:33:01 PM
  Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!

  John made it back to Monterey tonight -

  A gritty, gutsy example of sheer determination -

  Syncharitmria !


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From igofaster at att.net  Sun Aug 21 17:35:42 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:35:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
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is it the 'classic' wheel you are referring to as LeMans style?

Bobby Whitehead




________________________________
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville at hotmail.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, August 19, 2011 9:08:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote:

> And Hap just announced he has the LeMans style wheels now in stock at 15x6 and
> 15x7 sizes,

Figures. I finally put together a full set of American Racing LeMans wheels... 
it only took 16 or 17 years to get the 6" set complete!! OTOH, I have a lot of 
"history" there.

It looks like the vtoperformance.com web site doesn't show the LeMans wheels 
yet. When they do, I'll probably buy a set. They're my FAV.

regards,
rml
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 22 06:35:32 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:35:32 +0200
Subject: [Fot] THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <8CE265DD6A470BF-1DA4-5453B@webmail-m136.sysops.aol.com>
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	<005901cc5842$795bd8d0$6c138a70$@com>
	<8CE265DD6A470BF-1DA4-5453B@webmail-m136.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <001201cc60c7$fdabe0c0$f903a240$@com>

As preface to the comming event:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ244OYjYvE
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ244OYjYvE&feature=player_embedded>
&feature=player_embedded
 
Cheers
Chris


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Mon Aug 22 07:43:55 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:43:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <1313969742.60512.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
	<1313969742.60512.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Bobby Whitehead wrote:

> is it the 'classic' wheel you are referring to as LeMans style?

No. The VTO classis 8 is a minilite reproduction. American Racing sold an 
8 spoke and called it the Silverstone, but it looks completely different 
than the Minilite and the various repro / copy minilite wheels. The Retro 
4 is a repro of the "Libre". The latest one (not illustrated on the site 
yet) is a repro of the LeMans which IS illustrated here:

http://www.acmespeedshop.com/wheels.html

(down at the bottom of the page).

> Bobby Whitehead

I hope this is clear.

FWIW, I'm not sure that American Racing had the LeMans in 13", but I could 
be wrong on that. I know they had them in 15" 'cuz I have a dozen or so of 
those. :-)

Regards,
rml
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 07:56:55 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:56:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108220937360.18323@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
	<1313969742.60512.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108220937360.18323@isis.mit.edu>
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Photo of an ARE Silverstone (pay no attention to the hand...):

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg which had a name of photo.jpeg]
Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red


On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Bobby Whitehead wrote:
>
>> is it the 'classic' wheel you are referring to as LeMans style?
>
> No. The VTO classis 8 is a minilite reproduction. American Racing sold an 8
spoke and called it the Silverstone, but it looks completely different than
the Minilite and the various repro / copy minilite wheels. The Retro 4 is a
repro of the "Libre". The latest one (not illustrated on the site yet) is a
repro of the LeMans which IS illustrated here:
>
> http://www.acmespeedshop.com/wheels.html
>
> (down at the bottom of the page).
>
>> Bobby Whitehead
>
> I hope this is clear.
>
> FWIW, I'm not sure that American Racing had the LeMans in 13", but I could
be wrong on that. I know they had them in 15" 'cuz I have a dozen or so of
those. :-)
>
> Regards,
> rml
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Mon Aug 22 08:16:56 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:16:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <3F4823C4-4FEA-4848-A62C-B9B180841B63@gmail.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	, <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl><BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu><1313969742.60512.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108220937360.18323@isis.mit.edu>
	<3F4823C4-4FEA-4848-A62C-B9B180841B63@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <357601cc60d6$265b3080$0301a8c0@randall>

> Photo of an ARE Silverstone (pay no attention to the hand...):
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg

Unfortunately, no photos through the list.  You'll need to put it on a web
site somewhere, and post a link.

But perhaps this is the same photo?

http://fwd4.me/09bf

-- Randall  


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Mon Aug 22 08:22:12 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:22:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
	<1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>

DB Electrical

www.dbelectrical.com

Look at the NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.

It's less than $75 to your door for a brand-new alternator.

To install it, you need an upper bracket (less than $20 or the scrap pile, 
your choice) and a couple of spacers (another $10 or less at the h/w 
store) and the proper sized belt.

Electrical hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from the 
ignition switch to excite the alternator.

I put one on my race car and I love it.

regards,
rml
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Mon Aug 22 08:25:53 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:25:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <357601cc60d6$265b3080$0301a8c0@randall>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl><BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu><1313969742.60512.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108220937360.18323@isis.mit.edu>
	<3F4823C4-4FEA-4848-A62C-B9B180841B63@gmail.com>
	<357601cc60d6$265b3080$0301a8c0@randall>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221024430.18323@isis.mit.edu>

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Randall wrote:

>> Photo of an ARE Silverstone (pay no attention to the hand...):
>>
>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg
>
> Unfortunately, no photos through the list.  You'll need to put it on a web
> site somewhere, and post a link.
>
> But perhaps this is the same photo?
>
> http://fwd4.me/09bf

yes - that's the Silverstone.

Notice how the spokes are round-ish and don't have a spine (like the 
Panasport does).

> -- Randall

regards,
rml
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 22 08:36:13 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <940450982.482320.1314023773252.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Here's the link:
http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-4720-new-chevy-mini-alternator-denso-street-rod
-race-3-wire-and0212.aspx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: "sherry robyn" <sherryjimmy6116 at att.net>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:22:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Light weight altenator

DB Electrical

www.dbelectrical.com

Look at the NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.

It's less than $75 to your door for a brand-new alternator.

To install it, you need an upper bracket (less than $20 or the scrap pile,
your choice) and a couple of spacers (another $10 or less at the h/w
store) and the proper sized belt.

Electrical hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from the
ignition switch to excite the alternator.

I put one on my race car and I love it.

regards,
rml
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From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Mon Aug 22 08:50:46 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:50:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AA9E1AF10561421DA4EB4BBDEAFFF4E5@gdhs.local>

Look at "DB Electrical" Johnson City TN (dbelectrical.com) ey have a great
little 1-wire mini alternator...50 Amp....for $74.00.....works great on my
TR3A race car.....

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Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator


I saw that there were some posts on racing altenators not too long ago.
Sorry,
I didn't save them but now have the need.  Are there any available that are
a
pretty easy hook up for a 1974 TR6.  Need something light and just enough
charge
to keep the battery up.  Jim in Folsom, CA
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From donmarshall at nefcom.net  Mon Aug 22 08:54:37 2011
From: donmarshall at nefcom.net (Don Marshall)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:54:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Has anyone fit this particular alternator to a Spitfire?  Any issues?  Don


On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:22:12 -0400, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>  
wrote:

> DB Electrical
>
> www.dbelectrical.com
>
> Look at the NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.
>
> It's less than $75 to your door for a brand-new alternator.
>
> To install it, you need an upper bracket (less than $20 or the scrap  
> pile, your choice) and a couple of spacers (another $10 or less at the  
> h/w store) and the proper sized belt.
>
> Electrical hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from  
> the ignition switch to excite the alternator.
>
> I put one on my race car and I love it.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Mon Aug 22 08:55:06 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:55:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDFA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I'm going to have my stock flywheel lightened and am looking for
suggestions for a good weight for my Spitfire 1500 flywheel.



Scott B.


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon Aug 22 09:12:30 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:12:30 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
References: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDFA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
Message-ID: <6A4BD6B57C424885A54FA3911330A28F@Charly>

Have you thought of getting a lightened flywheel, they're much safer.
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/8080/Aluminum%20Flywheel%201500%20
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500


> I'm going to have my stock flywheel lightened and am looking for
> suggestions for a good weight for my Spitfire 1500 flywheel.
>
>
>
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Mon Aug 22 09:15:51 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:15:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [BULK]  Re:  Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
In-Reply-To: <6A4BD6B57C424885A54FA3911330A28F@Charly>
References: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDFA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
	<6A4BD6B57C424885A54FA3911330A28F@Charly>
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Yes, I have thought about it, and have an aluminum flywheel for the good
1296 motor.  This was my (formerly) stock-ish 1500cc backup motor.  It's
gotten a few upgrades now and I'm just looking to shave a little weight
off the flywheel - nothing too extreme.  This motor won't be revved much
past stock in any case.  (and I've got a nice ballistic scatter blanket
:-)

Scott

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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:13 AM
To: Barr, Scott; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [BULK] Re: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
Importance: Low

Have you thought of getting a lightened flywheel, they're much safer.
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/8080/Aluminum%20Flywheel%201500%
20
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
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> I'm going to have my stock flywheel lightened and am looking for
> suggestions for a good weight for my Spitfire 1500 flywheel.
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>
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From pvucinic at netspace.net.au  Mon Aug 22 14:21:22 2011
From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:21:22 +1000
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACxbEgK3O79MiqnuYcYqj9HCgAAAEAAAAIOsVcHzRhdBpthSEoctXjUBAAAAAA==@netspace.net.au>

Dear lister's,

 

I am wondering whether any member shave fitted a quick release steering
wheel hub/mechanism to their TR7/8? If so, what brand etc. was used as I am
looking at this option as well. No use reinventing the wheel (pardon the
pun) if we don't have to!

 

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR-4

TR7 V8

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Aug 22 14:31:34 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:31:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel
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I have fitted one to my TR7 racer. I used a TR8 alloy wheel, made up an
aluminum plate to bolt to the back which in turn is bolted to the quick
release hub. The quick release nut was just welded onto the stock steering
wheel shaft. You can see the set up at the end of this video that I posted
after I got the car running the first time. The quick release hub and nut
are just the generic type you can buy, got mine on Ebay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlhjL9wC_Kw


Paul



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Sent: August 22, 2011 4:21 PM
To: 'Friends of Triumph'
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel

Dear lister's,

 

I am wondering whether any member shave fitted a quick release steering
wheel hub/mechanism to their TR7/8? If so, what brand etc. was used as I am
looking at this option as well. No use reinventing the wheel (pardon the
pun) if we don't have to!

 

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR-4

TR7 V8

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Aug 22 14:56:01 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:56:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nice custom TR6
Message-ID: <002401cc610d$e70f9910$b52ecb30$@rogers.com>

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/2559110082.html

 

workmanship is terrific.

 

Paul


From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Aug 22 19:11:40 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:11:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Grattan wrap up
Message-ID: <CALCydYo-kZR+wLJSgdS+D8yuCgGPtChOaqOwgiNPAe2xq+kG+A@mail.gmail.com>

Some quick highlights from the Midwest:

Bill Dentinger was holding off a bunch of Sprites and other Triumphs for
several laps in the sprint race and it was a real sight to see him dive bomb
a bugeye after "the jump" Bill you still have it!

Dennis DeLap's TVR 2200S Is really a beautiful car. Look for this thing at a
track near you! The fact that this car exists out of a vision in his mind to
emulate the cars he loved as a kid is inspirational to say the least. This
home built classic is a sight to behold and really captures some unique
glimpses of days gone by.

Similarly, Tim and Ryan Murphy have really outdone themselves as far as
preparation goes! Their car is really well prepped and they surely make it
clear from their presentation that they do not plan on being beaten by
equipment. Ryan had a real good go from my viewpoint passing many cars and
getting faster all weekend.

Tony Drews... In a class by himself. dominating group two with fast times
and solid podium finishes. Nice job Tony... doing us proud!

Bob Wismer... Solid runs having fun in his TR4 and getting philosophical
about tractor development at the well attended Beady Eye "wine and cheese"
-thanks guys!

Me: I feel good! It was a looong weekend for me. After replacing the entire
middle section of my car over the last month. (new custom flywheel, new
trick clutch, rebuilt my starter, new bellhousing etc... I was a little
nervous going in and quickly became one with the track and car. Everything
was working and I was going fast... for about 15 laps. Then in typical GT6
nonsense... I lost 3rd gear in a rattling grind of disaster. I went back to
the paddock and took the trans apart to find 3rd gear with only 2 teeth on
it. After consulting my peers and in a effort to Never be Beaten By
Equipment... I drove home 3 1/2 hours to steal a trans from my dad's street
car. I snagged it and drove 3 1/2 hours back to the track. I prepped the
trans and pulled my old one finishing at 1:30am. Got up early and installed
the new one! I only missed one Qualifying Session. The car worked great and
starting from the back of the pack for three races on Sunday. I drove the
car to a personal best time for the track finishing at about the middle in
group 8 and in the middle of the Trans - Am race. This is my hobby. I race a
Triumph GT6.

A great weekend for all us Triumph Guys!

Thanks for listening.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From John.Reed at wilson.com  Tue Aug 23 06:22:12 2011
From: John.Reed at wilson.com (Reed, John)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:22:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nice custom TR6
In-Reply-To: <002401cc610d$e70f9910$b52ecb30$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <CA7905A4.83A5%John.Reed@wilson.com>

WOW! I want it!




On 8/22/11 3:56 PM, "Paul MacDonald" <macdonaldp at rogers.com> wrote:

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/2559110082.html



workmanship is terrific.



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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Tue Aug 23 08:10:19 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:10:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nice custom TR6
In-Reply-To: <CA7905A4.83A5%John.Reed@wilson.com>
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	That car was recently featured on BringATrailer.com  Very
interesting


	build, and lots of time and effort invested.  The bumpers are kinda


	tacky, and the cage is a bit strange, but overall it must be a neat


	car to drive.


	 


	John


	 


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	>

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From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Aug 23 08:32:30 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:32:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Grattan wrap up
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In a message dated 08/22/2011 8:18:43 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> <<< Bill Dentinger was holding off a bunch of Sprites and other Triumphs 
> for
> several laps in the sprint race and it was a real sight to see him dive 
> bomb
> a bugeye after "the jump" Bill you still have it! >>>
> 

That part of the track is down hill, and I weigh 100 pounds more than those 
drivers...so I'm actually very fast...going down hill.  My new engine is 
awesome (89 vice 87 mm pistons...flat top, but a custom design).  Grattan is 
my favorite track, and Ole Blue was full of torque coming up hill out of Turn 
4 (a turn I call the Stool Softener), and also up hill coming out of the 
Turn 9 hair pin.  But alas, arthritis in my knees and hips prevents me from 
being competitive.  I had a ball.

Two other Grattan comments:  

1.  There was a VIOLENT rain storm on Saturday afternoon.  Buckets of rain 
water being driven horizontal by very high winds.  This wiped out several 
race team paddocks (tents, tarps, etc.).  The storm only lasted twenty minutes 
or so, but it also knocked out the track's electrical service, so racing 
could not resume.  The track staff quickly brought an old (i.e. vintage) Allis 
Chalmers tractor out of the barn and used its PTO to run a generator.  
Timing and scoring was back in business.  But it was already 2:45 PM and there 
was standing water in several areas of the track and so the balance of racing 
for the day was canceled.

2.  There was a scary incident during the track Touring session on Sunday.  
A gorgeous, highly prepared (read enhanced) Porsche 550 Spyder (replica) 
lost its brakes going into turn 1.  Grattan used to be a drag strip and the 
front straight is long and fast.  Turn 1 is a bad place to be without brakes.  
They slammed into the tire wall bruising the body up.  Oh yeah...the reason 
why this is particularly interesting is the fact that the Event's Driver's 
Coach, David Jones, was driving.  He was introduced as having more times 
going backwards at Grattan than the Event Chair had going forward.  He is a 
great driver, and a good instructor, ...and he added to his 'going backwards 
record' on Sunday during Touring.  And then to add insult to injury, the 
Event's banquet speaker, semi-pro Race Team owner, Reed Smith was in the 
passenger seat.  Take a lesson racers...it is very hard to resist showing off, and 
that can make Touring very dangerous.

BUT as always, Vintage Grand Prix au Grattan was fantastic.

Bill Dentinger


From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Tue Aug 23 09:09:27 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:09:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel
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I used a $50 3/4" splined unit available from Jegs. It is available in
either a 3 or 5 hub bolt pattern.  Pegasus has a similar unit that uses a
slotted hex shaft with a pin release....

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From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Peter Vucinic
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:21 PM
To: 'Friends of Triumph'
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel


Dear lister's,



I am wondering whether any member shave fitted a quick release steering
wheel hub/mechanism to their TR7/8? If so, what brand etc. was used as I am
looking at this option as well. No use reinventing the wheel (pardon the
pun) if we don't have to!





Thank you in advance.







Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR-4

TR7 V8

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug 23 20:55:42 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:55:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR4A stuff
In-Reply-To: <8CE300270C53F09-1D34-236DC@angweb-usd022.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE300270C53F09-1D34-236DC@angweb-usd022.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE3020728ACFC0-1D4C-3199B@webmail-m089.sysops.aol.com>

Marv Gruber is offering TWO drivetrains and a TR4A.

If anyone is looking for major components, this might make sense.

Marv is knowledgeable and is familiar with shipping large components.

He is located in Alabama.



-----Original Message-----
From: Mgruber921 <mgruber921 at aol.com>
To: N197TR4 <N197TR4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:21 pm
Subject: TR4A stuff


 Joe,
How are your, busy like the rest of us.

I recently bought a bunch of TR4A stuff. Two complete drive lines. Both with
the solid axle diffs.
Late engines engines (CT 64414E & CT 65410E, both with the # 511695 alum push
rod tubes)  One is free the other is stuck. Do you know anyone looking for one
right now. Also have a complete 66 TR4a solid car to sell as well. Looks rough
but would make good racer. Engine runs. $4000 for it.

Marv


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Aug 24 07:42:56 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:42:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Re; TR6 at SCCA Solo Nats
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240938110.4275@isis.mit.edu>

Hi,

I was perusing the 2011 Solo Nationals entrants lists last night and low 
and behold - I see a TR6 in FP.

As a person that really, really, really wants to be there next week (*) 
(and also a person that really, really, really, really needs to keep my 
day job) I would like to say "good luck and have a lot of fun. I wish I 
was there too".

(*)my boss thinks otherwise. The jerk.  :-)

I didn't get a chance to look at the complete list, but I assume there'll 
be some Triumph iron in GP and maybe even FSP. In any case - good luck to 
all.

I hope to be there next year. Really!

rml
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Aug 24 07:52:11 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:52:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Black Salt Racing
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240951430.4275@isis.mit.edu>

Hey,

check out:

www.blacksaltracing.com

Does anybody know these folks? If not, maybe we should reach out to them.

I won't post any spoilers. Check it out.

regards,
rml
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Wed Aug 24 11:50:49 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:50:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
Message-ID: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?

 

Thanks,

Tim


From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 24 15:36:20 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:36:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
Message-ID: <1944361533.638210.1314221780100.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Tim,



No, the diaphragm clutch requires a shorter transmission nose piece.



Ed



----- Original Message -----


From: "Tim Murphy" <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:50:49 PM
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?

B 

Thanks,

Tim


From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Wed Aug 24 16:15:49 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:15:49 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <1944361533.638210.1314221780100.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<1944361533.638210.1314221780100.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1bcc01cc62ab$61bbd090$253371b0$@rr.com>

> No, the diaphragm clutch requires a shorter transmission nose piece.

I agree, but the nose piece (aka input housing) can be shortened with a
hacksaw or similar.  Just cut off about 3/8" and deburr/round the edges a
bit.

Otherwise, the "diaphragm" fingers will hit the nose piece when the clutch
pedal is depressed.

-- Randall 


From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Aug 24 17:14:35 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:14:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
Message-ID: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>

Dear FOTers,

Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
opportunity to install a LSD.

It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).

I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
not know the influence of the set up parameters.

I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:

1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
with disc type (oil quantity and heat)

2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60

3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
interlocking?

4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?

5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
application?

6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
worthwhile?

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti


From walt at hot-tr6.com  Wed Aug 24 18:16:14 2011
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:16:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
Message-ID: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>

I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska next week. I will
be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue and my number is
73. 

I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing on the 29th and racing
on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this

Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing you
there.

Walt Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico


From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Aug 24 19:10:34 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:10:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Black Salt Racing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240951430.4275@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240951430.4275@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <0DEA5142-D5AD-4DA8-9E8D-DBC16441B462@me.com>

here's what the guy posted about the car on another Triumph site.  Apparently someone challenged the classification, saying the GT6 was offered as a four seater.  The challenge was denied and a "Triumph" has the record for fastest modified sportscar in this class.

"Speed trials such as Bonneville use a classification system that is based on three main factors: chassis and level of mods to it, Engine Size, Fuel. You can use any combination to arrive at a class. The car I am referring to is a Modified Sportscar meaning that it is based on a production two seater. From the firewall back the car must be original except the roof can be chopped (lowered). Forward of that almost anything goes. The car is a 360ci Aluminum Brodix with two turbos on methanol. Not going to please the GT6 purist but it will make a gearhead do a double take and grin."

On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:

Hey,

check out:

www.blacksaltracing.com

Does anybody know these folks? If not, maybe we should reach out to them.

I won't post any spoilers. Check it out.

regards,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 24 21:19:30 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:19:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
In-Reply-To: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
References: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
Message-ID: <8CE30ECEFF52C50-3404-29F86@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

Brendan would want to be on your crew.....





-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Hollowell <walt at hot-tr6.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:25 pm
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals


I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska next week. I will
be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue and my number is
73.

I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing on the 29th and racing
on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this

Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing you
there.

Walt Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Wed Aug 24 21:29:56 2011
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
References: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
Message-ID: <2CE9AC49F3434BB999FB40492FCFC26C@rocky>

Hey, Walt. First, welcome to the Solo Nationals!  :-D

But maybe I should help you get up to date on a few things  :-)

It isn't "Solo II" any more, hasn't been since about 2004 or so. But yeah, a 
lot of people still say that. It all changed when Solo I moved under the 
club race banner and became Time Trials.

And of course we don't "practice" as such, although you can spend all day on 
the 29th if you want walking the courses.

Most important, check the schedule. FP is a Tuesday-Wednesday class. 
Specifically, you drive the East Course Tuesday, the West Course 
Wednesday -- 3rd heat both days. Sure wouldn't want you to miss your runs.

I'll be there in my GP Spitfire, #4 -- also blue ... and yellow. Glad to see 
a big TR there. Not many left.

--Rocky Entriken
  (Yes, I am Thu-Fri, 4th heat.)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Walter Hollowell" <walt at hot-tr6.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals


> I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska next week. I will
> be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue and my number 
> is
> 73.
>
> I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing on the 29th and 
> racing
> on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this
>
> Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing 
> you
> there.
>
> Walt Hollowell
>
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Aug 24 22:31:46 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:31:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <20110825043214.4C07518764A@autox.team.net>

Phantom Grip has had pretty poor reviews on the forums I participate 
in.  Quaiffe will be long lasting and low to no maintenance.  As long 
as both rear tires are on the ground, I really like it.  However, 
lift the inside rear wheel in cornering and you'll get some spin of that wheel.

Can't answer any of the Salisbury questions other than Tran-X being 
pretty much the only source that I know of for them.  For RACING, 
with my driving style (not nearly as smooth in the corners as Jack 
was), the Salisbury would be the way to go.  I would expect to wear 
out the clutches occasionally though.  For street use, I wouldn't 
hesitate to use a Quaiffe.  I would expect for the finned cover to be 
unnecessary for street use.  For race use, anything you can do to 
keep them cool is probably a good thing.

Tony Drews

At 06:14 PM 8/24/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Dear FOTers,
>
>Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
>opportunity to install a LSD.
>
>It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
>rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
>real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
>not know the influence of the set up parameters.
>
>I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
>1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
>does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
>with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>
>2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60
>
>3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
>interlocking?
>
>4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
>manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
>Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?
>
>5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
>increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
>application?
>
>6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
>worthwhile?
>
>Thank you in advance for your feedback!
>
>With kind regards
>
>Alex Camoletti
>_______________________________________________
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>
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From spitlist at cox.net  Thu Aug 25 08:19:22 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:19:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <20110825043214.4C07518764A@autox.team.net>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
	<20110825043214.4C07518764A@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <73562B03CEBD471388546181A3031BA8@Vista>

Having tried a Phantom Grip (Thanks Steve) I can say that I could not tell
any difference between that and an open diff, even with much stiffer springs
installed.  My conclusion was that any perceived advantage that it has is
just "Phantom"!

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:32 PM
To: Alexandre Camoletti; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Phantom Grip has had pretty poor reviews on the forums I participate 
in.  Quaiffe will be long lasting and low to no maintenance.  As long 
as both rear tires are on the ground, I really like it.  However, 
lift the inside rear wheel in cornering and you'll get some spin of that
wheel.

Can't answer any of the Salisbury questions other than Tran-X being 
pretty much the only source that I know of for them.  For RACING, 
with my driving style (not nearly as smooth in the corners as Jack 
was), the Salisbury would be the way to go.  I would expect to wear 
out the clutches occasionally though.  For street use, I wouldn't 
hesitate to use a Quaiffe.  I would expect for the finned cover to be 
unnecessary for street use.  For race use, anything you can do to 
keep them cool is probably a good thing.

Tony Drews

At 06:14 PM 8/24/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Dear FOTers,
>
>Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take
the
>opportunity to install a LSD.
>
>It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
>rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
>real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
>not know the influence of the set up parameters.
>
>I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
>1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
>does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
>with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>
>2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60
>
>3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
>interlocking?
>
>4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
>manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
>Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?
>
>5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
>increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
>application?
>
>6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
>worthwhile?
>
>Thank you in advance for your feedback!
>
>With kind regards
>
>Alex Camoletti
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>
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From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Thu Aug 25 10:38:13 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:38:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
In-Reply-To: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
References: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
Message-ID: <1314290293.78277.YahooMailRC@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Walter,

What are some of the things you have done to your 70 TR6?

Jim
________________________________
From: Walter Hollowell <walt at hot-tr6.com>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, August 24, 2011 5:16:14 PM
Subject: [Fot] SCCA
Solo II Nationals

I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska
next week. I will
be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue
and my number is
73. 

I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing
on the 29th and racing
on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this
Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing you
there.

Walt Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 25 10:48:34 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:48:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Anyone know this car?
Message-ID: <1314290914.79646.YahooMailNeo@web114714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Interesting looking, to say the least.  Just curious if anyone knows the car
(not personally interested, too many projects already)...
 
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/2563322734.html


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Thu Aug 25 15:18:24 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:18:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
Message-ID: <000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>

Thanks to all who responded.  The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
length.
	The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that engages
the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
	Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the clutch
parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
Moss catalogs.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?

 

Thanks,

Tim
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From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Thu Aug 25 15:55:54 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:55:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
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> 	Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the
> clutch
> parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to
> the
> Moss catalogs.

I don't believe that is correct, Tim, unless I am misunderstanding you.  The
flywheel, friction plate, throwout bearing, TOB carrier, gearbox front cover
(where the carrier rides) and operating shaft all changed.  Even the
bearings that the operating shaft rides in were changed at some point!  

ISTR the only parts that didn't change were the operating fork, taper pin
and the pins that engage the carrier.  And even the fork casting actually
changed, it's just that the later one will fit the earlier setup.

Oh yeah, the slave cylinder changed too (although Moss doesn't show it).
The slave for the diaphragm clutch is supposed to have a spring inside it,
while the finger clutch does not.  The adjustable pushrod was also changed
to a fixed one (since the later setup does not require adjustment).  

There was also a different slave used on cars with front drum brakes
(Lockheed rather than Girling).

-- Randall 


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 25 17:04:52 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:04:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
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	<000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
Message-ID: <8CE319287E24AD4-1CB4-1E250@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>

it would seem that the latter sleeve would be the shorter one.

due to running amuck of the the fingers.

i think i encountered this about 25 years ago on my TR3A

and since then on the early TR4 when converting to later clutch.






-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Murphy <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: 'Tim Murphy' <timmurph at fastbytes.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4


Thanks to all who responded.  The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
length.
	The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that engages
the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
	Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the clutch
parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
Moss catalogs.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?



Thanks,

Tim
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Thu Aug 25 19:16:20 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:16:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <8CE319287E24AD4-1CB4-1E250@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <998386033.708248.1314321380839.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I don't think he was "talking" about the nose piece.

----- Original Message -----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
To: timmurph at fastbytes.com, fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:04:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

it would seem that the latter sleeve would be the shorter one.

due to running amuck of the the fingers.

i think i encountered this about 25 years ago on my TR3A

and since then on the early TR4 when converting to later clutch.






-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Murphy <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: 'Tim Murphy' <timmurph at fastbytes.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4


Thanks to all who responded. B The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
length.
B B B B B B B B The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that
engages
the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
B B B B B B B B Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the
clutch
parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
Moss catalogs.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?



Thanks,

Tim
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From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com  Thu Aug 25 21:47:37 2011
From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
Message-ID: <AAF16F0FD5284A8A81D6D0AFB5CB11A0@TER2>

The finger and the diaphragm clutches use different release bearings. The 
flywheels are also drilled differently. The finger type uses a 9 inch 
diameter disc and the pressure plate uses two alignment dowels. The 
diaphragm clutch uses an 8 1/2 inch disc and the pressure plate uses three 
alignment dowels. \ 
Greg Solow
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Murphy" <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: "'Tim Murphy'" <timmurph at fastbytes.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4


> Thanks to all who responded.  The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
> the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
> style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
> length.
> The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that engages
> the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
> transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
> Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the clutch
> parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
> Moss catalogs.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Tim Murphy
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
>
> Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with 
> the
> "three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
> bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
> later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
> use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 03:08:39 2011
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <4E576297.5040208@gmail.com>

On 8/24/11 4:14 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
> It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
> rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>
> I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
> 1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
> does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
> with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>    
Paragraph #1 - Winter, wet, snow.

A Quaife requires rolling resistance to both wheels in order to work.  
The slipping wheel needs to provide some resistance.  A wheel in the air 
or a total lack of rolling resistance from ice can foil and otherwise 
brilliant design.  If you were like most people and keeping the TR under 
cover and hibernating during the snow I would suggest the Quaife as it 
is smooth and you never notice it is there except the rear end is not as 
squirrely.   Had one on the fornt of my Land Rover for 2 decades before 
replaing it with a Trutrac.
>
> 5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
> increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
> application?
>    
Paragraph #1 - "for l*ong distance* road rallies in various conditions"

The Salisbury type generates more heat than an open diff and I believe 
more than a Quaife would.  Over long hard driving distances that heat 
can build up and potentially cause problems.  Thanks to Greg, my TR now 
has a TRAN-X.  It also has a cast diff cover with increased oil 
capacity.  A TRAN-X is not cheap and the extra cooling capacity is good 
insurance in my book.
> 6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
> worthwhile?
>    

There was a lot of interest in Phantom Grip a year or two back and I 
remember that a few people tried it and reported that the Phantom was 
just that.  A phantom grip.  No perceived improvement other than in the 
seller's bank balance.

Teriann

Whose TR's rear end doesn't dance like it used to when you punch it hard 
coming out of a tight curve.


From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 06:13:55 2011
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:13:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: RE:  LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
Message-ID: <4E578E03.50404@gmail.com>

I think this was meant to go to the group as a whole and not me since I 
already have a limited slip.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	RE: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
Date: 	Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:57:08 +0100
From: 	Tony Sheach <tr4.tony at virgin.net>
Reply-To: 	<tr4.tony at virgin.net>
Organization: 	tr4.tony
To: 	'TeriAnn J. Wakeman' <tjwakeman at gmail.com>



TeriAnn

In that case my choice would be the TRANX plate type diff, with a 4,33:1
CW&P ..... if you need any help sourcing those I can organise it here in the
UK with one supplier and get them to deal direct. You will also get a good
price from them as they support me.

Regards Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: 26 August 2011 10:09
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

On 8/24/11 4:14 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>  It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance
>  road rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>
>  I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
>  1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
>  does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems
>  associated with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>
Paragraph #1 - Winter, wet, snow.

A Quaife requires rolling resistance to both wheels in order to work.
The slipping wheel needs to provide some resistance.  A wheel in the air or
a total lack of rolling resistance from ice can foil and otherwise brilliant
design.  If you were like most people and keeping the TR under cover and
hibernating during the snow I would suggest the Quaife as it is smooth and
you never notice it is there except the rear end is not as
squirrely.   Had one on the fornt of my Land Rover for 2 decades before
replaing it with a Trutrac.
>
>  5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted
to
>  increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
>  application?
>
Paragraph #1 - "for l*ong distance* road rallies in various conditions"

The Salisbury type generates more heat than an open diff and I believe more
than a Quaife would.  Over long hard driving distances that heat can build
up and potentially cause problems.  Thanks to Greg, my TR now has a TRAN-X.
It also has a cast diff cover with increased oil capacity.  A TRAN-X is not
cheap and the extra cooling capacity is good insurance in my book.
>  6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
>  worthwhile?
>

There was a lot of interest in Phantom Grip a year or two back and I
remember that a few people tried it and reported that the Phantom was just
that.  A phantom grip.  No perceived improvement other than in the seller's
bank balance.

Teriann

Whose TR's rear end doesn't dance like it used to when you punch it hard
coming out of a tight curve.
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From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Fri Aug 26 07:43:25 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:43:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Compression ratios
Message-ID: <0D862D48F19A4789863B7E71C968DC17@gdhs.local>

A while back, Mark Bradakis sent out a chart showing head thickness to
compression ratios for GT6 motors and in the chain of replies, Chris Marx
reported that the stock head thickness for a TR4 was 84.2 mm or 3.31 inches.
I note from Mark's chart that a GT6's head thickness of 3.31 inches = 10.75
compression ratio.  Question: are the various head thickness/compression
figures for the GT6 the same as for the TR4?  Or, better still, does anyone
have similar figures for the TR4?

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
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From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Fri Aug 26 07:59:10 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 06:59:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Compression ratios
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Hi John,
In addition to milling down a racing cyl head, more work is done to  
the head to grind and smooth-out material in the combustion chamber of  
the head around the valves.  Since this work is done by hand, every  
single head is a little different.
The only way to know for sure is to "CC" the head.  On my head, for  
example, it has .180 milled off the bottom surface but the chamber was  
opened up to to optimize the shape of the combustion area.  The  
milling increases the CR but the other head work decreased the CR.  I  
run 11.2 to 1 with .180 milled off.
The other variable is the thickness of the head-gasket when  
compressed.  The steel shim HG gets smooshed down to .022 when the  
head is torqued down.  This is about as small as it gets.  This .022  
height, creates a volume with my 87mm pistons, it's like adding .022  
to the top of the cylinder.  A thicker HG (head gasket) adds more  
volume to the combustion chamber.  Next time, when the Head is out of  
the car, CC the head as per the instructions in Kas' book.  It's easy.
Here's an online formula to calculate the CR

http://www.csgnetwork.com/compcalc.html

~STEVE



On Aug 26, 2011, at 6:43 AM, John Hasty wrote:

A while back, Mark Bradakis sent out a chart showing head thickness to
compression ratios for GT6 motors and in the chain of replies, Chris  
Marx
reported that the stock head thickness for a TR4 was 84.2 mm or 3.31  
inches.
I note from Mark's chart that a GT6's head thickness of 3.31 inches =  
10.75
compression ratio.  Question: are the various head thickness/compression
figures for the GT6 the same as for the TR4?  Or, better still, does  
anyone
have similar figures for the TR4?

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Fri Aug 26 08:12:18 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:12:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] brake lines
Message-ID: <2CD50472854C44EEB761B2E7AD63848A@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old British
cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
already made up?
    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
flares?
    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines to
match the British fittings, without much success.
    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell me
the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd like to
flare my own.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is going?
    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it on
the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van days!


From ac at camoletti.ch  Fri Aug 26 10:04:08 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:04:08 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Compression ratios
In-Reply-To: <0D862D48F19A4789863B7E71C968DC17@gdhs.local>
References: <0D862D48F19A4789863B7E71C968DC17@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <001801cc6409$c9c90720$5d5b1560$@camoletti.ch>

HI John ! I milled 0.118 from my head (was 100% before, never skimmed) and
got 10.5 (corresponding to calculations).
But I made the chamfers in the chamber'side as per Kas' guidelines, so that
adds volume (approx. 2cc, as anticipated by calculation also).
So if you mill .118'' without chamfering from plain stock thickness then CR
may be above 11.
Then it depends how high the valves sit in the chamber, and what valves you
have (this can impact 1-2cc per chamber)
Also if you chamfer the plug hole, this adds volume.
Re headgasket, the volume it creates it often more than we think as you have
to calculate it not by multiplying the bore surface by gasket thickness but
the effective bore of the gasket itself, which often is quite a bit larger
than the round bore of the liner. Use school paper with squares to draw the
gasket bore on it, then count the squares and do the maths you'll get the
surface (each "non full" square count 1/2 square the small and big halves
will compensate each other quite well, this is the usual practice).
To be more precise I can check my handwritten chart if you wish, as I
calculated then measured all these parameters, it is in the shop with the
engine building file.
Let me know!
Alex

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Envoyi : vendredi 26 ao{t 2011 15:43
@ : 'Friends of Triumph'
Objet : [Fot] Compression ratios

A while back, Mark Bradakis sent out a chart showing head thickness to
compression ratios for GT6 motors and in the chain of replies, Chris Marx
reported that the stock head thickness for a TR4 was 84.2 mm or 3.31 inches.
I note from Mark's chart that a GT6's head thickness of 3.31 inches = 10.75
compression ratio.  Question: are the various head thickness/compression
figures for the GT6 the same as for the TR4?  Or, better still, does anyone
have similar figures for the TR4?

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From triosan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 11:20:02 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:20:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>

Having finally just read Kas' new book, and having talked to Joe at the
Laguna Cup race, I decided to install a crankcase evacuator system.  So now:

1. I have a Triumphtune Rocker cover.  There is a hole for the vent, but no
filtering whatsoever.  Will I get a lot of oil/mist sucked into the
exhaust?
2. If so, what is a good solution.  The breather cap that came with the Kit
[from Mr Gasket] will not fit under the hood with the hose attached even if
I put it as close as possible to the firewall [TR6].
3. Since these kits are for a V8 I have half of one left over.  Glad to
share it with anyone desiring to do this modification.

Thanks,


-- 
Chuck Arnold


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 26 11:57:01 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:01 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc6419$92226770$b6673650$@com>

Hi Chuck,

I've glued a shield in place to have no mist.
I don't use a breather cap just the normal cap that came with the cover.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2011 19:20
An: Friends
Betreff: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question

Having finally just read Kas' new book, and having talked to Joe at the
Laguna Cup race, I decided to install a crankcase evacuator system.  So now:

1. I have a Triumphtune Rocker cover.  There is a hole for the vent, but no
filtering whatsoever.  Will I get a lot of oil/mist sucked into the
exhaust?
2. If so, what is a good solution.  The breather cap that came with the Kit
[from Mr Gasket] will not fit under the hood with the hose attached even if
I put it as close as possible to the firewall [TR6].
3. Since these kits are for a V8 I have half of one left over.  Glad to
share it with anyone desiring to do this modification.

Thanks,


--
Chuck Arnold
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From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Fri Aug 26 12:06:10 2011
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:10 +0100
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <64B1E32E1A0C423E828A3ED0BE1281A0@homekeith>

Here is my view.

I run Salisbury LSDs in both my TR4 and my TR6, both cars have 3.9:1 and
4.1:1 ratio CWPs.

In the TR4 the LSDs are virtually maintenance free and do exactly what they
need to do on the track. TR4 has 147 bhp at the rear wheels.

In the TR6 the LSDs need to be rebuilt after every 5 hours of track time and
it is always the clutches that need replacing; rebuild kits are around #100
GBP and it takes 3-4 hours labour. The TR6 puts out 207 bhp at the wheels.

I have recently installed a Gripper LSD in one of the diffs for the TR6;
these are manufactured by Gripper in the UK and are designed by the guy who
originally designed the Salisbury that is manufactured by Tran X but has
taken them further by making them stronger in a number of areas which,
according to them, will result in low levels of maintenance at a lower cost
as well. I am running this LSD at the Nurburgring Nordschleife 3 hour race
in early September to prove it fully; it has already run faultlessly at
Silverstone.

The Gripper costs c #700 GBP + VAT (tax) making it #840 GBP in total.

I will provide a write up and further details on the unit itself after the
event if there is any interest.

Cheers,

Keith.









-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: 25 August 2011 00:15
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Dear FOTers,

Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
opportunity to install a LSD.

It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).

I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
not know the influence of the set up parameters.

I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:

1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
with disc type (oil quantity and heat)

2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60

3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
interlocking?

4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?

5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
application?

6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
worthwhile?

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 26 12:19:02 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:19:02 +0200
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <64B1E32E1A0C423E828A3ED0BE1281A0@homekeith>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
	<64B1E32E1A0C423E828A3ED0BE1281A0@homekeith>
Message-ID: <000901cc641c$a4bdb620$ee392260$@com>

And for the cheap side of life:

I run a welded diff for several years now and feel very fine with it.
In two weeks from now it can be seen in action on the Nordschleife.

It is maintenance free.

Cheers
Chris


-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Keith Files
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2011 20:06
An: 'Alexandre Camoletti'
Cc: 'FoT Triumph'
Betreff: Re: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Here is my view.

I run Salisbury LSDs in both my TR4 and my TR6, both cars have 3.9:1 and
4.1:1 ratio CWPs.

In the TR4 the LSDs are virtually maintenance free and do exactly what they
need to do on the track. TR4 has 147 bhp at the rear wheels.

In the TR6 the LSDs need to be rebuilt after every 5 hours of track time and
it is always the clutches that need replacing; rebuild kits are around #100
GBP and it takes 3-4 hours labour. The TR6 puts out 207 bhp at the wheels.

I have recently installed a Gripper LSD in one of the diffs for the TR6;
these are manufactured by Gripper in the UK and are designed by the guy who
originally designed the Salisbury that is manufactured by Tran X but has
taken them further by making them stronger in a number of areas which,
according to them, will result in low levels of maintenance at a lower cost
as well. I am running this LSD at the Nurburgring Nordschleife 3 hour race
in early September to prove it fully; it has already run faultlessly at
Silverstone.

The Gripper costs c #700 GBP + VAT (tax) making it #840 GBP in total.

I will provide a write up and further details on the unit itself after the
event if there is any interest.

Cheers,

Keith.









-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: 25 August 2011 00:15
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Dear FOTers,

Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
opportunity to install a LSD.

It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).

I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
not know the influence of the set up parameters.

I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:

1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
with disc type (oil quantity and heat)

2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60

3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
interlocking?

4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?

5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
application?

6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
worthwhile?

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti
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From triosan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 12:36:24 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:36:24 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>

I could easily do that setup as I have a catch tank in place now.
BUT... How would negative pressure work in such a case as I would be sucking
on the tank with an opening to the atmosphere and I do not understand how
any negative pressure would get applied to the crankcase.

If Iran the evacuator line to a non-vented tank then to the rocker cover
[with a cover over the vent hole like Christian showed to stop directly
sucking into the hose] then I think it would work.  The evacuator uses 5/8
inch line -- which I believe is AN10.

Thoughts everyone?



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With a crankcase evac, you'll have negative pressure present, so if you tap
> into the valve cover, you'll pull oil mist out. Another way to do this
> without sucking all the oil from the engine is to set up a system where the
> valve cover vent line goes to a tank of some sort that has the evacuator on
> one tap and there is also a vent to atmospere. That way, if the engine
> starts blowing oil, it goes to the tank but not necessarily all out the
> tailpipe.
>
> The goodparts oil seperator is a good way of doing this, but you may find
> the capacity to be on the small side. So another way of doing it would be to
> use the goodparts setup with a larger tank...
>
> I run a PCV setup on my car. I have the neg. pressure source as the INTAKE
> (there's a tap on the Cannon Weber manifold). This gives me negative
> pressure on the overrun only. If the crankcase pressurizes, it vents to the
> catch tank (which is vented to atmosphere). The key here is that when
> there's lots of oil present in the valve cover - it "blows" into the catch
> tank, but when I lift, the oil vapor can get sucked back through the into
> the intake (and burned off). With this setup, I get a small amount of oil in
> the catch tank when I run the motor to stupid revs (like 7000+), but no
> excessive leaks anywhere.
>
> To your question on the breather - I wouldn't use the oil filler cap as the
> breather (along with the fitment issuse you mentioned (like fouling on the
> bonnet)). Use the catch tank as the breather. That way you don't have to
> worry about saturating the breather filter and the potential fire hazard
> that presents. The key here is that on a long hi-RPM run, you get a LOT of
> oil in the valve cover and there's a good chance that that oil will find its
> way out. I don't like valve cover breather filters cuz they seem to fill
> with oil and then drip (or worse) and you get oil everywhere.
>
> On the size of the hose(s) from the valve cover - go with TWO AN8 or AN10
> lines if you can.
>
> regards,
> rml
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
>



-- 
Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley


From donmarshall at nefcom.net  Fri Aug 26 12:40:59 2011
From: donmarshall at nefcom.net (Don Marshall)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:40:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Alternator Refit
In-Reply-To: <E8C6E35047EA4F41A1E580C2FF98B8F3@gdhs.local>
References: <E8C6E35047EA4F41A1E580C2FF98B8F3@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <op.v0t3il1vairs7i@don-pc.belkin>

I just got this same alternator from DB Electrical, but neither of the  
large pulleys that I have on hand will fit on it without some serious  
modification since the shaft only sticks out of the housing a small  
amount.  What oversized pulley are others using with these?  I have a  
Moroso 5" that fits perfectly on a regular GM alternator and another  
unidentified 5"  but neither will fit without machine work that will cost  
as much as the alternator did.  Thanks, Don

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:32:50 -0400, John Hasty <jhhasty at gdhs.com> wrote:

> I know this might be a bit late, but for all who may encounter this  
> problem
> in the future, DB Electrical in Johnson City TN offers a 50 amp small
> alternator (4'' x 4.5") with mounting hole centers @5 3/8" under the  
> name of
> "Denso Chevy Street Rod Race".  The other nice thing is that it's a one  
> wire
> alternator, even I knew how to hook this up! Only costs $74.00.   
> Installed
> on my TR3A and it works like a charm and no problems with header  
> clearance
> etc.  They have a web cite with pics etc........
>
> John H. Hasty
> Attorney At Law
> Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
> 719 East Boulevard
> Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
> Tele: (704) 372-5600
> Fax: (704) 372-4601
> E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 26 12:45:57 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:45:57 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
	<CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000d01cc6420$661bc9d0$32535d70$@com>

The vents are needed to prevent a sucking noise at the lip seals of the
crank with more modern cars.
With our old lumps and enough blow by no noise will occur - but who cares
anyway if it does?

Cheer
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2011 20:36
An: Robert M. Lang; Friends
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question

I could easily do that setup as I have a catch tank in place now.
BUT... How would negative pressure work in such a case as I would be sucking
on the tank with an opening to the atmosphere and I do not understand how
any negative pressure would get applied to the crankcase.

If Iran the evacuator line to a non-vented tank then to the rocker cover
[with a cover over the vent hole like Christian showed to stop directly
sucking into the hose] then I think it would work.  The evacuator uses 5/8
inch line -- which I believe is AN10.

Thoughts everyone?



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With a crankcase evac, you'll have negative pressure present, so if you
tap
> into the valve cover, you'll pull oil mist out. Another way to do this
> without sucking all the oil from the engine is to set up a system where
the
> valve cover vent line goes to a tank of some sort that has the evacuator
on
> one tap and there is also a vent to atmospere. That way, if the engine
> starts blowing oil, it goes to the tank but not necessarily all out the
> tailpipe.
>
> The goodparts oil seperator is a good way of doing this, but you may find
> the capacity to be on the small side. So another way of doing it would be
to
> use the goodparts setup with a larger tank...
>
> I run a PCV setup on my car. I have the neg. pressure source as the INTAKE
> (there's a tap on the Cannon Weber manifold). This gives me negative
> pressure on the overrun only. If the crankcase pressurizes, it vents to
the
> catch tank (which is vented to atmosphere). The key here is that when
> there's lots of oil present in the valve cover - it "blows" into the catch
> tank, but when I lift, the oil vapor can get sucked back through the into
> the intake (and burned off). With this setup, I get a small amount of oil
in
> the catch tank when I run the motor to stupid revs (like 7000+), but no
> excessive leaks anywhere.
>
> To your question on the breather - I wouldn't use the oil filler cap as
the
> breather (along with the fitment issuse you mentioned (like fouling on the
> bonnet)). Use the catch tank as the breather. That way you don't have to
> worry about saturating the breather filter and the potential fire hazard
> that presents. The key here is that on a long hi-RPM run, you get a LOT of
> oil in the valve cover and there's a good chance that that oil will find
its
> way out. I don't like valve cover breather filters cuz they seem to fill
> with oil and then drip (or worse) and you get oil everywhere.
>
> On the size of the hose(s) from the valve cover - go with TWO AN8 or AN10
> lines if you can.
>
> regards,
> rml
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
>



--
Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Fri Aug 26 13:16:53 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:16:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
	<CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261506360.19620@isis.mit.edu>

Hi,

I don't know the full theory on this stuff, but the key here is that you 
have _pressure differential_ between the crank case (or valvetrain) and 
the catch tank. In order to keep oil from blowing out of every crevice on 
the motor, this differential must be negative where you want the oil (or 
vapor) to flow.

So, you don't need a lot of vacuum - you just need lower pressure than 
what's inside the engine.

You can get crazy with all this, but if the goal is to stop leaks and 
stuff, you need "just enough". Two 5/8" hoses is def better than one 1/2" 
hose (which is what the factory used for Federal Emissions cars) - so two 
AN10's would be great.

As far as the "breathing" part, you just need about the same surface area 
of outlet as the hose(s) you are using to vent the valve cover. If you use 
MORE area in the outlet you can't get lower pressure in the catch tank and 
you more or less defeat the purpose OR you need to find a better method to 
reduce the pressure in the catch tank...

My setup works pretty well. Even when I had a broken ring (30% leakdown 
past the rings) the motor didn't leak at all! Surprised me too (when I ran 
the leakdown test).

I like the suggestion of a baffle in the valve cover. That's what the 
factory did (although they also use a screen which is overkill IMHO).

c ya,
rml
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Aug 26 13:20:17 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:20:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261506360.19620@isis.mit.edu>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
	<CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261506360.19620@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535A2E790D@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

Doesn't Richard Good sell a canister to separate the smoke from the oil?

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Robert M. Lang
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 2:17 PM
To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
Cc: Friends
Subject: Re: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question

Hi,

I don't know the full theory on this stuff, but the key here is that you have
_pressure differential_ between the crank case (or valvetrain) and the catch
tank. In order to keep oil from blowing out of every crevice on the motor,
this differential must be negative where you want the oil (or
vapor) to flow.

So, you don't need a lot of vacuum - you just need lower pressure than what's
inside the engine.

You can get crazy with all this, but if the goal is to stop leaks and stuff,
you need "just enough". Two 5/8" hoses is def better than one 1/2"
hose (which is what the factory used for Federal Emissions cars) - so two
AN10's would be great.

As far as the "breathing" part, you just need about the same surface area of
outlet as the hose(s) you are using to vent the valve cover. If you use MORE
area in the outlet you can't get lower pressure in the catch tank and you more
or less defeat the purpose OR you need to find a better method to reduce the
pressure in the catch tank...

My setup works pretty well. Even when I had a broken ring (30% leakdown past
the rings) the motor didn't leak at all! Surprised me too (when I ran the
leakdown test).

I like the suggestion of a baffle in the valve cover. That's what the factory
did (although they also use a screen which is overkill IMHO).

c ya,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Aug 26 17:04:12 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:04:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <8CE324D6AC7EC06-190-839F@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
	<CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CE324D6AC7EC06-190-839F@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
To: triosan <triosan at gmail.com>; lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>; fot
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2011 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question


It would seem that it would work best with a closed system.

We have used the existing nipple on the OEM valve cover for about 13 years. It
might be baffled with simple 'top hat' tab strip, but sucking copious amounts
of oil out has never been an issue.

Tech responds positively when I explain the concept....when they do ask.

In order to avoid questions, I think Sean is going add a dummy tank.

If you are over 60, apparently you get more respect....Sean's hair is not grey
enough.

BTW, THIS IS NOT A NEW IDEA......and it has other benefits in reducing
turbulence in the crankcase and aids in sealing the rings.....according to
technical reports.  Long used by dragstrip and stock car guys....pretty clever
folks they are, and their parts can be a lot cheaper.

Bottom line to us was a dry chassis after a hard weekend at high speed.

Cheap/Effective


From trdoctor at aol.com  Fri Aug 26 18:28:48 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fot Brake Lines
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1314381602.12781.fot@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1.1314381602.12781.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <FB186A23-9C82-4605-BC27-3CBEE11E5FBE@aol.com>

You can buy an ISO/Bubble Flaring tool from $nap On.  Not cheap, but works
fine.  I had to flag a truck down and have them order them for me.  PN
TFN-428

Sam Clark
Green Country Triumphs

On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:00 PM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:

>
>
> Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old
British
> cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
> already made up?
>    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
> flares?
>    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
>    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines to
> match the British fittings, without much success.
>    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell
me
> the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd like
to
> flare my own.
>    Any thoughts?
>    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is going?
>    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
> line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it
on
> the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
> Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van
days!


From triosan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 21:36:54 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:36:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fot Brake Lines
In-Reply-To: <FB186A23-9C82-4605-BC27-3CBEE11E5FBE@aol.com>
References: <mailman.1.1314381602.12781.fot@autox.team.net>
	<FB186A23-9C82-4605-BC27-3CBEE11E5FBE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNCisudHDUw4pjWbrqsNg=bynpNqZY0eFKwPy5p+jh=tQw@mail.gmail.com>

Airport Spruce -- about $100.  I did many, many brake and fuel Lines in the
race car and the tool sure paid off [as did the "Kool Tool" for
holding the hose ends -- got it from Racer Wholesale].

Chuck

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:hlding
the hose ends].

> You can buy an ISO/Bubble Flaring tool from $nap On.  Not cheap, but works
> fine.  I had to flag a truck down and have them order them for me.  PN
> TFN-428
>
> Sam Clark
> Green Country Triumphs
>
> On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:00 PM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old
> British
> > cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
> > already made up?
> >    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
> > flares?
> >    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
> >    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines
> to
> > match the British fittings, without much success.
> >    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell
> me
> > the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd
> like
> to
> > flare my own.
> >    Any thoughts?
> >    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is
> going?
> >    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
> > line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it
> on
> > the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
> > Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van
> days!
> _______________________________________________
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>
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>


-- 
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From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Aug 26 22:44:43 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:44:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
Message-ID: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>

Do any of the vintage sanctioning bodies allow the rear swing axle setups to
be converted to a more conventional (like twin A-frame) type of suspension?
Or are you stuck with the swing axles?  I ask because the thought of
offering an upgrade  consisting of the lower control arm and split axles
with a CV joint has recently come to me.  If there is a reasonable demand, I
might explore further to see how much I could offer it for.

 

Racers could use it if it is not outlawed, but street cars might find it
attractive if it doesn't break the bank.

 

Thanks,

Joe C.


From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 27 06:20:44 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:20:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
Message-ID: <002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>

Joe,

I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
IRS conversion
for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.

Doug

--
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dmitchel at sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:45 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

Do any of the vintage sanctioning bodies allow the rear swing axle setups to
be converted to a more conventional (like twin A-frame) type of suspension?
Or are you stuck with the swing axles?  I ask because the thought of
offering an upgrade  consisting of the lower control arm and split axles
with a CV joint has recently come to me.  If there is a reasonable demand, I
might explore further to see how much I could offer it for.

 

Racers could use it if it is not outlawed, but street cars might find it
attractive if it doesn't break the bank.

 

Thanks,

Joe C.
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Aug 27 08:19:48 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:19:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>

I think you had better take another look at PRI's product.  It is a
replacement for the road spring to coil-over but leaves the swing axle
intact (if that is the product you are referring to).  In my estimation,
that is nothing more than "Bling"

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

Joe,

I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
IRS conversion
for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.

Doug

--
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dmitchel at sbcglobal.net


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Aug 27 08:56:24 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:56:24 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
Message-ID: <DB1212B8-9CC1-4F19-8F04-9340412ED166@aol.com>

I have looked at the pRI set up. It makes the rear more independent. But to
get away from the swing arm completely  use the GT6 lower a-arm with a cv
setup.   That sounds like a really sweet setup to me in my mind.

Chris

On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:19 AM, "Joe Curry" <spitlist at cox.net> wrote:

> I think you had better take another look at PRI's product.  It is a
> replacement for the road spring to coil-over but leaves the swing axle
> intact (if that is the product you are referring to).  In my estimation,
> that is nothing more than "Bling"
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
> To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
>
> Joe,
>
> I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
> IRS conversion
> for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.
>
> Doug
>
> --
> Doug Mitchell
> dmitchel at sbcglobal.net
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Aug 27 09:02:14 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:02:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <DB1212B8-9CC1-4F19-8F04-9340412ED166@aol.com>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
	<DB1212B8-9CC1-4F19-8F04-9340412ED166@aol.com>
Message-ID: <55B6BF12CBFF4A9A8879805C31C70338@Vista>

That is more of what I had in mind with the aim of using a CV joint rather
than rotoflex and using the Spitfire upright rather than having to seek a
good pair of GT6 rotoflex uprights.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock [mailto:SeaCubeCo at aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:56 AM
To: Joe Curry
Cc: Doug Mitchell; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

I have looked at the pRI set up. It makes the rear more independent. But to
get away from the swing arm completely  use the GT6 lower a-arm with a cv
setup.   That sounds like a really sweet setup to me in my mind.  

Chris

On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:19 AM, "Joe Curry" <spitlist at cox.net> wrote:

> I think you had better take another look at PRI's product.  It is a
> replacement for the road spring to coil-over but leaves the swing axle
> intact (if that is the product you are referring to).  In my estimation,
> that is nothing more than "Bling"
> 
> Joe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
> To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
> 
> Joe,
> 
> I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells
an
> IRS conversion
> for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.
> 
> Doug
> 
> --
> Doug Mitchell
> dmitchel at sbcglobal.net
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sat Aug 27 10:10:02 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:10:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hastings and Road America
Message-ID: <8CE32EAE8F6322F-3CC-1044E@webmail-m066.sysops.aol.com>

Next weekend, we are looking forward to running Hastings with RMVR and HVR as
sanctioning bodies. A country club course with little of the excitement of
Road America, but lower in cost and will make a good event for friends and
family.

We also plan to attend THE ELVF at Road America. It will be a tribute to a
late friend, Mike Roseberry. Mike and Duck Waddle were charter members of our
NORTHEAST IOWA SPORTS CAR CLUB from the late 50s. It was Mike's wish that his
ashes be distributed there, so his family have made reservations to be there.

Included in the Roseberry family albums are pictures of Duck racing his TR3. I
had forgotten that.

Looking forward to seeing folks that will be at both locations.

Joe A.


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Sat Aug 27 15:23:20 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:23:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] brake lines
In-Reply-To: <2CD50472854C44EEB761B2E7AD63848A@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <2CD50472854C44EEB761B2E7AD63848A@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <000501cc64ff$8dfbcfb0$a9f36f10$@com>

An expensive solution is the use of AN fittings which have the great
advantage of being able to be removed and screwed back on without leaking.
For the small brake line fittings they are less costly and may be worth it.
I've for gotten which flare they use but I think I got the flaring tool from
Aircraft Spruce and it worked great, also no leaks!

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of william r tobin
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:12 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] brake lines

Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old
British
cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
already made up?
    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
flares?
    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines to
match the British fittings, without much success.
    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell
me
the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd like
to
flare my own.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is going?
    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it on
the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van
days!
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 28 16:29:51 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:29:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
Message-ID: <1314570591.73417.YahooMailRC@web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Joe,

You're right. I saw the "fully independent" and assumed thry meant IRS.
Of course we know all about assume.

Doug



----- Original Message ----
From:
Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: Doug Mitchell <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>;
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, August 27, 2011 10:19:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Fot]
Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

I think you had better take
another look at PRI's product.  It is a
replacement for the road spring to
coil-over but leaves the swing axle
intact (if that is the product you are
referring to).  In my estimation,
that is nothing more than "Bling"

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

Joe,

I
don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
IRS
conversion
for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.

Doug

--
Doug Mitchell
dmitchel at sbcglobal.net


From mdporter at dfn.com  Sun Aug 28 16:57:54 2011
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:57:54 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <1314570591.73417.YahooMailRC@web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
	<1314570591.73417.YahooMailRC@web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E5AC7F2.10703@dfn.com>

On 8/28/2011 4:29 PM, Doug Mitchell wrote:
> Joe,
>
> You're right. I saw the "fully independent" and assumed thry meant IRS.
> Of course we know all about assume.
>
>

Umm, well, no contradiction there.  IRS = Independent Rear Suspension, 
which, yes, includes swing axles.

The difference is in swing axle to double-jointed axle.  Both are IRS, 
but there's some notable difference in how the wheel behaves between the 
two configurations.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....


From tedtsimx at bright.net  Mon Aug 29 12:23:25 2011
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:23:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Vintage Race
Message-ID: <4E5BD91D.7060907@bright.net>

Hi listers. We will beat the Watkins Glen Vintage races Sept. 8 - 11.  
We will have a parts/accessories booth in the vendor area and can bring 
items out ifyou have a specific need. Please give me a call if you need 
something.  Look forward to seeing you there. Thanks,Ted

-- 
Ted Schumacher
tedtsimx at bright.net
http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
108 S. Jefferson St.
Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.)
Phone: 800.543.6648 (US&  Canada)
Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022


From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Mon Aug 29 17:34:13 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:34:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hooking up the light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
	<1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <1314660853.51786.YahooMailRC@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well, got the little DB altenator and it looks good.  The physical hookup is
no 
problem.  On the electrical part, I am still using the ignition, etc of
the 
original 74 TR6.  Currently I have three wires going to the altenator. 
One is 
large brown which I assume to be to the starter/battery.  I also have
a brown 
yellow which I assume is from the ignition and finally, a small brown
wire that 
went into a separate plug in the altenator.  My stock voltmeter
works and I 
assume that this small brown wire is for that.

On the new
altenator, I have the heavy battery terminal which I assume I will 
connect
the large brown wire to.  The other terminal on the new altenator has
a horizonal and vertical pin in what could be a single plug.  The top
horizonal 
pin seems to indicate ground.  What is the best way to handle this
one?  Also, 
is the vertical pin below the ground pin the one for the ignition
wire (brown 
yellow)?  Where would I connect the voltmeter wire on the new
altenator?

Thanks for any help on this, Jim in Folsom, CA
________________________________
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To:
sherry robyn <sherryjimmy6116 at att.net>
Cc: Richard Good
<goodparts at verizon.net>; MIKE DEWEERD <deweerdm at rogers.com>;
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, August 22, 2011 7:22:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot]
Light weight altenator



DB Electrical

www.dbelectrical.com

Look at the
NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.

It's less than $75 to your
door for a brand-new alternator.

To install it, you need an upper bracket
(less than $20 or the scrap pile, your 
choice) and a couple of spacers
(another $10 or less at the h/w store) and the 
proper sized belt.

Electrical
hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from the 
ignition
switch to excite the alternator.

I put one on my race car and I love it.
regards,
rml
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Former
NER Solo Chair                          |
Voice:617-253-7438                 
          |  Cell: 339-927-4489
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From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Mon Aug 29 19:12:38 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:12:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Hooking up the light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <1314660853.51786.YahooMailRC@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
	<1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
	<1314660853.51786.YahooMailRC@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <226f01cc66b1$e92f2f90$bb8d8eb0$@rr.com>

> One is
> large brown which I assume to be to the starter/battery.

Yup.

>  I also have
> a brown
> yellow which I assume is from the ignition

Ignition warning lamp, on the dash.

> and finally, a small brown
> wire that
> went into a separate plug in the altenator.  My stock voltmeter
> works and I
> assume that this small brown wire is for that.

No, it is a "sense" wire from the battery back to the regulator inside the
alternator, so it can "see" battery voltage without the voltage drop induced
in the big wire (by heavy current flowing through it).

> On the new
> altenator, I have the heavy battery terminal which I assume I will
> connect
> the large brown wire to.

That's right.

> The other terminal on the new altenator has
> a horizonal and vertical pin in what could be a single plug.  The top
> horizonal
> pin seems to indicate ground.  What is the best way to handle this
> one?  Also,
> is the vertical pin below the ground pin the one for the ignition
> wire (brown
> yellow)?  Where would I connect the voltmeter wire on the new
> altenator?

There are a lot of variations, and your description doesn't match my
alternator so I can't really answer.  But most likely you'll need to run an
additional wire from a switched power source (ignition circuit); and the
small brown wire won't be used.

-- Randall 


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Aug 30 08:13:38 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:13:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hooking up the light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <226f01cc66b1$e92f2f90$bb8d8eb0$@rr.com>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
	<1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
	<1314660853.51786.YahooMailRC@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<226f01cc66b1$e92f2f90$bb8d8eb0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108301011350.17556@isis.mit.edu>

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Randall wrote:

[good info, but stuff deleted]

> There are a lot of variations, and your description doesn't match my
> alternator so I can't really answer.  But most likely you'll need to run an
> additional wire from a switched power source (ignition circuit); and the
> small brown wire won't be used.

This is correct. This wire is what energizes the alternator. Without this, 
you'll see 12 volts no matter what the revs are. With this connected to 
the ignition source, you'll get the expected 13.7 (plus or minus).

> -- Randall

regards,
rml
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Former NER Solo Chair                          |
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From gasket.works at verizon.net  Tue Aug 30 22:01:04 2011
From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:01:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT
References: <00ae01cc673f$b452af20$1cf80d60$@com>
Message-ID: <00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>

Dustin:

I will post this on the FOT email site.  You may get a response from some
local folks.

good luck racing...

Mordy

M.N.Dunst
Gasket Works USA, LLC
www.Headgasket.com
626.358.1616 ph1
626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax

Triple R Munitions, Inc.
Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax
GMT-8 Pacific


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dustin Nicholson
  To: gasket.works at gte.net
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM
  Subject: FOT


  Hi, I'm a long time follower of FOT from the outside.  I've got several
friends (mostly in Texas) that race Triumphs in CVAR and I'm looking to get
into it myself.  For the last 15 years I have had stock spitfires and have
autocrossed them at VTR conventions and I have done a 24 hours of LeMons in a
TR6, but am now ready to get a real race car.  Can you help me find a beginner
racing Triumph?  I'd really like to become a  member of FOT, how do I do that?
I understand y'all have an email group that I'd like to be a part of.



  Thanks,

  Dustin Nicholson


From gasket.works at verizon.net  Tue Aug 30 22:03:04 2011
From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:03:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction
Message-ID: <00be01cc6792$e290d350$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>

I am forwarding this information the group.

NFI...

Mordy

M.N.Dunst
Gasket Works USA, LLC
www.Headgasket.com
626.358.1616 ph1
626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax

Triple R Munitions, Inc.
Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax
GMT-8 Pacific


----- Original Message -----
From: Shuler Auctions
To: gasket.works at gte.net
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction


We will be Auctioning a 1968 TR250 on Sept 18th at Public Auction in
Titusville, Florida.  Do you have a place that we can post this info?

Thank You,
Debbie Shuler AU#3756
Cliff Shuler Auctioneers & Liquidators, Inc. AB#9/AU#14
Shuler & Shuler Real Estate Auctioneers, Inc.
Secretary/Treasurer Florida Auctioneers Association
422 Julia St., Titusville, FL 32796
www.soldfor.com
321-267-8563 office
321-383-3147 fax


From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Aug 31 08:11:41 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:11:41 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
Message-ID: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>

Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about LSDs.
I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet to
digest all that.

Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
(temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
manifold.

I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the INNOVATE
MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
gauge)

What do you think of it ? Any experience?

And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)

Thank you Amici!

All the best

Alex


From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Aug 31 08:55:33 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:55:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
In-Reply-To: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>
References: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <AE74EEE7C9B94080AF4B5E0CF69243F6@Vista>

This is the one I am using.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3375/

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:12 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter

Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about LSDs.
I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet to
digest all that.

Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
(temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
manifold.

I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the INNOVATE
MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
gauge)

What do you think of it ? Any experience?

And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)

Thank you Amici!

All the best

Alex
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Aug 31 09:25:07 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:25:07 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
In-Reply-To: <AE74EEE7C9B94080AF4B5E0CF69243F6@Vista>
References: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>,
	<AE74EEE7C9B94080AF4B5E0CF69243F6@Vista>
Message-ID: <SNT141-W479C26DEC616C8EE5B5C5FB2160@phx.gbl>

Almost all of my cars have A/F meters fitted. I just fitted a the gauge from
Innovate. By Far the Best set up. All weather pack connections.East to read
gauge.
down loadable if you are into that !


> From: spitlist at cox.net
> To: ac at camoletti.ch; fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:55:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
>
> This is the one I am using.
>
> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3375/
>
> Joe C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:12 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
>
> Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about
LSDs.
> I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet
to
> digest all that.
>
> Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
> (temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
> manifold.
>
> I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the INNOVATE
> MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
> gauge)
>
> What do you think of it ? Any experience?
>
> And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)
>
> Thank you Amici!
>
> All the best
>
> Alex
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>
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Wed Aug 31 09:57:44 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:57:44 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24
Message-ID: <SNT134-W31CD35B13D5789B6BBA9BF90160@phx.gbl>

I woul like to invite you to the following event:

I am putting together a TSD Road Rally in Taos, New Mexico on September 24th
and would love to have a good turnout especially considering how big a chore
it is turning into.
The Rally is a part of the Rio Grande Valley Regional Rendezvous put on by the
British Automobile Owners Association in Albuquerque.
Registration can be had at www.baoa.org
Cheers, Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM


From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Wed Aug 31 10:11:56 2011
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (Diesel Performance Parts - Info)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:11:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Air Fuel Meters
Message-ID: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DA486@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>

Members,

Got a few posts on this subject, wanted to remind everyone that as  FOT'er I
offer all Auto Meter  to FOT members are DEEEEEEEEP discount as my company is
a Master WD and it's something I can offer back to the members for all the
help I have gotten over the years.

Go to www.autometer.com<http://www.autometer.com/> and get the part number(s)
you need and e mail me, I'll get you pricing and go from there.

Mark Craig
Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
411 Allied Drive
Nashville, TN 37211
866-455-7788 Phone
615-834-9923 Fax

www.dieselperformanceparts.com


From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Wed Aug 31 10:32:04 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:32:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W31CD35B13D5789B6BBA9BF90160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DD6739B132804691AD9EC04B54858B85@gdhs.local>

Gee:  makes me want to find the old Curta, odometer counters, instruction
boards etc. from the 1960's, but New Mexico is a little too far for
us...having been the rally master for many, many local events and one SCCA
regional event I can appreciate all the work you have to put into one of
these.....good luck.....have a great time.......

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
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Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:58 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24


I woul like to invite you to the following event:

I am putting together a TSD Road Rally in Taos, New Mexico on September 24th
and would love to have a good turnout especially considering how big a chore
it is turning into. The Rally is a part of the Rio Grande Valley Regional
Rendezvous put on by the British Automobile Owners Association in
Albuquerque. Registration can be had at www.baoa.org Cheers, Henry Morrison,
Cedar Crest, NM _______________________________________________
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 31 11:06:38 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:06:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24
In-Reply-To: <DD6739B132804691AD9EC04B54858B85@gdhs.local>
References: <DD6739B132804691AD9EC04B54858B85@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <8CE36177B0963A2-125C-23636@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com>

ya,  i have odometers, Halda Speed Pilot, and HEUER watches.....someday they
will come off the shelf.......I see the Halda and HEUER watches are worth a
lot of money these days.





-----Original Message-----
From: John Hasty <jhhasty at gdhs.com>
To: 'Henry Morrison' <dos_gusanos at msn.com>; 'fot' <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 11:51 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24


Gee:  makes me want to find the old Curta, odometer counters, instruction
boards etc. from the 1960's, but New Mexico is a little too far for
us...having been the rally master for many, many local events and one SCCA
regional event I can appreciate all the work you have to put into one of
these.....good luck.....have a great time.......

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:58 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24


I woul like to invite you to the following event:

I am putting together a TSD Road Rally in Taos, New Mexico on September 24th
and would love to have a good turnout especially considering how big a chore
it is turning into. The Rally is a part of the Rio Grande Valley Regional
Rendezvous put on by the British Automobile Owners Association in
Albuquerque. Registration can be had at www.baoa.org Cheers, Henry Morrison,
Cedar Crest, NM _______________________________________________
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 31 11:44:40 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:44:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
Message-ID: <8CE361CCB55A158-125C-24042@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com>

....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Aug 31 12:03:08 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:03:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402684393@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I saw Duck at Siebkens on Saturday night.  He didn't seem to be doing poorly, though he wasn't galloping around the place, either.
 
Scott B.

----- Original Message -----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed Aug 31 12:44:40 2011
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....

....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Aug 31 12:36:23 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:36:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Congrats to Walt Hallowell
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108311433290.20680@isis.mit.edu>

FOT Walt Hallowell completed all his runs at the SCCA Solo Nationals just 
now. While he wasn't in the trophy hunt, at least he was there and showing 
off that Triumphs are meant to be driven.

Congrats, man!

I got my fingers crossed for 2012 that I'll be there ready to waive the 
banner.

regards,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 31 12:43:51 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:43:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Congrats to Walt Hallowell
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108311433290.20680@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108311433290.20680@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8CE36250F8AC2FE-1128-17D1F@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com>

hear!  hear!





-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 1:39 pm
Subject: [Fot] Congrats to Walt Hallowell


FOT Walt Hallowell completed all his runs at the SCCA Solo Nationals just
now. While he wasn't in the trophy hunt, at least he was there and showing
off that Triumphs are meant to be driven.

Congrats, man!

I got my fingers crossed for 2012 that I'll be there ready to waive the
banner.

regards,
rml
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Wed Aug 31 12:58:20 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:58:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR2 to TR6 clutch parts list & usage
Message-ID: <000001cc680f$f44a4d10$dcdee730$@com>

After my recent post regarding throw out bearing sleeves for the various
clutch styles and models of TR's I got curious and made a spread sheet  of
which clutch and associated parts are used with which model TR and style of
pressure plate.  I used the latest Moss catalogs as well as some  notes from
those who responded to my post.  Tony Drews has posted it on his website,
tonydrews.com, under the "Test" section.  It may be of interest to those who
are new to the game, as Ryan & I are.  I'm sure all the "old hands" know
this stuff already.  Thanks,

 

Tim Murphy

1961 TR4 #317


From triumphs at consolidated.net  Wed Aug 31 16:10:50 2011
From: triumphs at consolidated.net (Ken Gano, home PC)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:10:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
References: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <F37E1DC75DD947789173EA460F767FDB@SONYATHOME>

I have the Innovate in my street car and love it.  Dig through their web 
site for some really neat products.  The a/f and be daisy chained in a 
complete data logging system that outputs all sorts of neat stuff.

NFI

Ken Gano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexandre Camoletti" <ac at camoletti.ch>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:11 AM
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter


> Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about 
> LSDs.
> I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet 
> to
> digest all that.
>
> Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
> (temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
> manifold.
>
> I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the 
> INNOVATE
> MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
> gauge)
>
> What do you think of it ? Any experience?
>
> And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)
>
> Thank you Amici!
>
> All the best
>
> Alex
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From spitfiresuz at 141.com  Wed Aug 31 17:09:07 2011
From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:09:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Air Fuel Meters
In-Reply-To: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DA486@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>
References: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DA486@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>
Message-ID: <4E5EBF13.8030707@141.com>

That is very kind of you, Mark! Thank you so much for helping us out!

Keep Triumphing,
Susan    :)


On 8/31/2011 12:11 PM, Diesel Performance Parts - Info wrote:
> Members,
>
> Got a few posts on this subject, wanted to remind everyone that as  FOT'er I
> offer all Auto Meter  to FOT members are DEEEEEEEEP discount as my company is
> a Master WD and it's something I can offer back to the members for all the
> help I have gotten over the years.
>
> Go to www.autometer.com<http://www.autometer.com/>  and get the part number(s)
> you need and e mail me, I'll get you pricing and go from there.
>
> Mark Craig
> Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
> 411 Allied Drive
> Nashville, TN 37211
> 866-455-7788 Phone
> 615-834-9923 Fax
>
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From rjl at gt-classics.com  Wed Aug 31 20:21:08 2011
From: rjl at gt-classics.com (R. John Lye)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:21:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FOT
In-Reply-To: <00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
References: <00ae01cc673f$b452af20$1cf80d60$@com>
	<00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
Message-ID: <4E5EEC14.5030700@gt-classics.com>

I'll nominate Dustin for membership, although I haven't seen him
for a few years, he's a good one and will learn a lot from this
bunch (some of which his father would probably prefer that he
not learn! :-) ).

John Lye

On 8/31/2011 12:01 AM, MORDY DUNST wrote:
> Dustin:
>
> I will post this on the FOT email site.  You may get a response from some
> local folks.
>
> good luck racing...
>
> Mordy
>
> M.N.Dunst
> Gasket Works USA, LLC
> www.Headgasket.com
> 626.358.1616 ph1
> 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
>
> Triple R Munitions, Inc.
> Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
> 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
> 626.628.3777 fax
> GMT-8 Pacific
>
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Dustin Nicholson
>    To: gasket.works at gte.net
>    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM
>    Subject: FOT
>
>
>    Hi, I'm a long time follower of FOT from the outside.  I've got several
> friends (mostly in Texas) that race Triumphs in CVAR and I'm looking to get
> into it myself.  For the last 15 years I have had stock spitfires and have
> autocrossed them at VTR conventions and I have done a 24 hours of LeMons in a
> TR6, but am now ready to get a real race car.  Can you help me find a beginner
> racing Triumph?  I'd really like to become a  member of FOT, how do I do that?
> I understand y'all have an email group that I'd like to be a part of.
>
>
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Dustin Nicholson
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
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Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Mon Aug  1 00:01:58 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR update
In-Reply-To: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
References: <8e39.5f7e23b4.3b672f62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A213FC7-99ED-4E20-90CC-3FC8FB9F39B5@optonline.net>

Well done!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:21 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:

> The last few hours of the race were really "interesting" - on-line  timing 
> and scoring (which most of us were able to follow on our stupid smart  
> phones throughout most of the race) went dark in the last hour of the race, but  
> we THINK we finished 19th 
> remarkable, considering that Sunday morning we
> - tore the center out of the left front wheel (Jamie  driving)
> - completely wore out the front brake pads and blew a piston out of a  
> caliper - replaced both brake calipers in our lengthiest pit stop of the race  
> (me driving)
> - had a right rear tire go suddenly flat when somebody got close  enough on 
> track to shear off the valve stem (Wayne Andrews driving)
> 
> - oh yeah - we lost the starter before the sun came up on Sunday,  but this 
> was a barely a minor inconvenience since the car can be push  started in 
> about 3 feet in first gear and I don't believe anybody went off track  bad 
> enough to stall the car throughout the whole 24 hours...okay, 27 hours, if  you 
> count the track reconfiguration breaks and the lightening delay
> 
> So - at the end of the event we drove a mostly unscathed, still good  
> running car back on the trailer and all went home smiling with a top 20  finish. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jack Mc
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/31/2011 11:55:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tedtsimx at bright.net writes:
> 
> What is current  status?  It,s been 3 hours since we heard anything.  Great 
> job so.  Keep it going.  Ted
> 
> Connected by DROID on Verizon  Wireless
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> From: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> To: Jack Mc  <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net"  <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 09:21:00  GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] RiffRAF Racing 24 hrs of VIR  update
> 
> 
> 17th @ 5:20 am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul  30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Jack Mc <limeyv8 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Lightening delay - no power at corner stations - will eventually restart 
> in
> 19th place on a very wet course
>> 
>> Jack  Mc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at  5:08 PM, LimeyV8 at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 21st place (84 cars  started) 7 hours in
>>> 
>>> we shall keep calm and carry  on
>>> 
>>> Jack Mc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Mon Aug  1 20:18:46 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:18:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] mark 4, 1500 Spit tub
Message-ID: <78FB512C-BCB7-4178-83DB-4BBA9B88AAB0@aol.com>

Amici,
I have a spit tub for a Mark4 or 1500.  It needs new floors and battery box
which I have NEW replacements for.   It has primer over blue paint. No dents.
I have the doors and a trunk lid for it also.  Make me an offer.  I want to
get this thing out of my sight and out of the yard. It is in southern NJ but I
will be at Watkins Glen in October and can have it there.


Christopher Bock
www.SeaCubeCo.com
SeaCubeCo at aol.com
(609) 319-4322


From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Mon Aug  1 20:59:51 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 20:59:51 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 4 days to the next race with important TR4 oil pressure
 question
Message-ID: <20110802030342.3662718787A@autox.team.net>

Fot,

I just assembled a new motor and have a question about oil pressure & oil
viscosity.

I started with Brad Penn 30 wt break in oil and have a new Steve Yott oil
pump.

I ran in the cam yesterday for 20m, retorqued the head and took it out for
some run ups to 3K & eventually 4K.

About 15 minutes of run time. Oil pressure was right up at 75 -80. Before I
could record any notes I smelled oil burning

but it was just a displaced valve cover gasket. Fixed it.

Today I took the oil filter off and cut it open and there was a minor bit of
sparkle in the oil. I have been told a bit is normal.

I decided to give it an oil change and filter at this point. I changed to
Brad Penn 10-30,

On start up at 2000 it was at 75-80lbs. Over a period of 15 minutes running
up to 4K and back down and settling at a short cruise

of 2000 -  2500 the pressure worked it's way down to 50 lbs. I repeated
several times, it would always climb to 80 under throttle

but fall off again to 50 at a 2K rpm cruise. It dropped to 40 around a
corner but ran right up to 75- 80 under throttle.

I decided that was enough & parked it. I had my rod and main journals sized
to .003 clearance.

The big question is, with those clearance am I running enough viscosity ?

Thanks for the input as always

 

Jim G


From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Tue Aug  2 05:26:11 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (christopher bock)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 07:26:11 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Time to order FLAGS is running out!
References: <B0956C22-C2A0-4D06-9108-4B7E2F45FA8A@aol.com>
Message-ID: <594916CA-B667-41F0-94EF-F06E331BBB69@aol.com>

> Amici,
>
> Time to start ordering.
>
> Details
> 2x3foot size
> Logo is about 16 inches high
> 2 grommets
> Indoor outdoor use
> Material is great quality
> I have a proof picture if your interested in seeing it.
>
> I made the decision to go single sided. This means the words will be
reversed on the back.
>
> Price is $15 each. Shipping is included.
>
> Deadline to order is august 8, 2011.  I will place the order then and they
should be sent out to you by mid September.
>
> Payments to paypal (SeaCubeCo at aol.com) or check to
> Chris Bock
> 3630 Italia Ave
> Vineland, NJ
> 08361
>
> Chris
>
> PS Badges are still available


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug  2 09:06:25 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
Message-ID: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

Alert:

Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning the
next day.

Greg, Henry, Walt?  Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?

Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.

Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.

May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......

319.464.4711   cell

Thanks!

Joe A.


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug  2 10:08:39 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:08:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
In-Reply-To: <3E154EF053E546EB892ADCF2B1EF9DCC@sarako>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<3E154EF053E546EB892ADCF2B1EF9DCC@sarako>
Message-ID: <8CE1F4593627B2E-15D4-36E9@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

very cool!

i wonder if i can extend the trip a day.....hmmmm

who will be racing?

thanks for the information!






-----Original Message-----
From: michael a kowalski <sm1ski at dslextreme.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>; n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 10:56 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


too bad, starting friday afternoon will be a racing event at Sandia
Motorsports continuing the rest of the weekend---includes a number of
triumphs.

mike kowalski
1500 spit, FP
----- Original Message -----
From: <n197tr4 at cs.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
> the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt?  Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711   cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Tue Aug  2 10:20:24 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:20:24 -0600
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
In-Reply-To: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>

Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug  2 11:03:46 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:03:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

Thanks Henry!

I will have RV....I may be looking for 110 outlet if it is hot New Mexico
nights.

Will stay Friday night if co-pilot can stay.

Would like to join 'TR Drivers Extraordinaire'.

Got to see some TR FOLKS at PVGP with Irv.  But missed Snook.

Hope TR4 #197 will be at Hastings for RMVR/HVR event Labor Day Weekend.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------

BTW, we got a totally rebuilt DISTRIBUTOR back from ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS.

It was taylor tuned to Tilden Cam, and Compression, etc.  Included is matching
Coil.

We were overlooking the need to do this until coil failed at Blackhawk Farms.

Quality work is apparent and thoughtful, as we expected.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Wed Aug  3 06:33:30 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 06:33:30 -0600
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
In-Reply-To: <8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>,
	<8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT134-W28E09B7EBA0F65D7CA2EF903A0@phx.gbl>

I'll do my best to hit Albuquerque by 5 pm Thursday, on Friday there is a
group that wants to go to the Casino and hit the Seafood Buffet, or I will
hang out at the track and cook something there for those who show
up................Cheers Henry



To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: New Mexico FOT Travel AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:03:46 -0400


Thanks Henry!

I will have RV....I may be looking for 110 outlet if it is hot New Mexico
nights.

Will stay Friday night if co-pilot can stay.

Would like to join 'TR Drivers Extraordinaire'.

Got to see some TR FOLKS at PVGP with Irv.  But missed Snook.

Hope TR4 #197 will be at Hastings for RMVR/HVR event Labor Day Weekend.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------

BTW, we got a totally rebuilt DISTRIBUTOR back from ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS.

It was taylor tuned to Tilden Cam, and Compression, etc.  Included is matching
Coil.

We were overlooking the need to do this until coil failed at Blackhawk Farms.

Quality work is apparent and thoughtful, as we expected.

Joe A





-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel





Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  3 13:41:24 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:41:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <1312400484.20994.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would like to nominate Rich Johnson to this esteemed group.

He races a
FP/HP Spitfire, usually at Waterford Hills.

I'll let him introduce himself.
Thanks,

Doug


From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  3 13:43:27 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:43:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire For Sale
Message-ID: <1312400607.54618.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Amici,

Orval Turley has decided to sell his FP (I think) Spitfire.

I don't
have any other details, so please contact Orval
directly at oturley1 at aol.com.
Doug


From gaf3 at charter.net  Wed Aug  3 16:21:34 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:21:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Head Milling Recomendations
Message-ID: <4E39C9EE.9030905@charter.net>

Group
I have been rebuilding a number of TR6 engines this summer, most have 
been stock with overbores.
The latest wants  to raise compression up to ~ 9.5:1 . He already has a 
mild cam.
I believe this has been a past thread but I can't seem to find it.
About how much in thousands would you go for that 9.5:1 compression ratio.
I did this a few years ago but can't remember how much I took off.
He is also looking for improved streetable performance.
I recommended the shaved head, raising compression and an improvement in 
carburetion such as new SU's
The car is a 74 with the dual exhaust ( new stainless ) so no headers on 
this one. He already has a mild cam but I'm starting with one of my 
donor engines since his crank and block are wiped out due to the dreaded 
thrust bearing problem ( did a full circle thrust bearing on this 
earliear but the crank is too rough ).
Suggestions??
Thanks in Advance
Glenn Franco
Too Many TR's
They Keep Multiplying


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug  3 20:10:17 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 22:10:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W28E09B7EBA0F65D7CA2EF903A0@phx.gbl>
References: <8CE1F3CE212172C-15D4-2BE2@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com><SNT134-W27AD7DEE1EC8879146798903B0@phx.gbl>,
	<8CE1F4D46667F74-15D4-3F73@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>
	<SNT134-W28E09B7EBA0F65D7CA2EF903A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE2062C9E7187B-1834-F0B9@webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com>

Brendan and I will be nearby on Friday

Is there a place to plug in Class B RV?

Or we have genset.

Will arrive in ALBUQUERQUE Thursday afternoon.

Should conclude business at that time.

We are in DODGE CITY and getting out of it in the morning.

Joe






-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 7:33 am
Subject: RE: New Mexico FOT Travel   AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS



I'll do my best to hit Albuquerque by 5 pm Thursday, on Friday there is a
group that wants to go to the Casino and hit the Seafood Buffet, or I will
hang out at the track and cook something there for those who show
up................Cheers Henry


To: dos_gusanos at msn.com; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: New Mexico FOT Travel AND ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:03:46 -0400


Thanks Henry!

I will have RV....I may be looking for 110 outlet if it is hot New Mexico
nights.

Will stay Friday night if co-pilot can stay.

Would like to join 'TR Drivers Extraordinaire'.

Got to see some TR FOLKS at PVGP with Irv.  But missed Snook.

Hope TR4 #197 will be at Hastings for RMVR/HVR event Labor Day Weekend.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------

BTW, we got a totally rebuilt DISTRIBUTOR back from ADVANCED DISTRIBUTORS.

It was taylor tuned to Tilden Cam, and Compression, etc.  Included is matching
Coil.

We were overlooking the need to do this until coil failed at Blackhawk Farms.

Quality work is apparent and thoughtful, as we expected.

Joe A






-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos at msn.com>
To: N197TR4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel


Guy's I'll be buzzing back from El Paso on Thursday, but will be available on
Friday and will be racing the Elva this weekend. Joe, anything I can offer in
terms of accomodations etc.?............................Cheers Henry


> To: fot at autox.team.net
> From: n197tr4 at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:25 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] New Mexico FOT Travel
>
> Alert:
>
> Looks like I will be arriving in Albuquerque Thursday afternoon, returning
the
> next day.
>
> Greg, Henry, Walt? Quick burger and beer and talk about 10th Kastner Cup?
>
> Third generation family driver may be with me as co-pilot.
>
> Will have notebook so I can communicate by email.
>
> May try to do Unser Museum Friday morning.......
>
> 319.464.4711 cell
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe A.
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From stlnyc at msn.com  Wed Aug  3 21:24:10 2011
From: stlnyc at msn.com (Fred & Mary Hodgson)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:24:10 -0600
Subject: [Fot] FW: Save the Bonneville Salt Flats!
In-Reply-To: <SNT109-DS16FD5369FA8E1E93F10B1BAA3A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT109-DS16FD5369FA8E1E93F10B1BAA3A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W1032E2FEFB595F76CF186EDA3D0@phx.gbl>

Amici-

Thought I'd pass this on for those who might be interested.

Fred Hodgson


















Send Your Letter Supporting the Salt Flats



















Dear Fellow Enthusiast,

Once again, Summit Racing Equipment is reaching out to motorsports enthusiasts
- helping to raise awareness and seeking your support on the issues affecting
our industry, hobby, and passion.

Below is a letter addressed to the Bureau of Land Management asking for its
immediate support in stopping the destruction of the Bonneville Salt Flats in
Utah - a site of immense historic value where land speed records have been
attempted, and set. Originally 96,000 acres, the Salt Flats have shrunk to
just 30,000 acres because of unchecked potash mining operations who have
failed to replace the salt they've destroyed.

We ask that you take the time to either write your own letter, or copy the one
below into an email, to help our government leaders understand the historic
and intrinsic value of the Salt Flats, and of their responsibility to help
preserve them. Please consider sending or emailing the following letter to the
Bureau of Land Management:












To: The Honorable Robert Abbey
Director, Bureau of Land Management
U.S. Department of the Interior

As a long-time automotive and motorsports enthusiast, I was particularly
troubled to learn about what appears to be the deliberate destruction of
Utah's Bonneville Salt Flats by potash mining operations.

The Bonneville Salt Flats are a national treasure, and have been an integral
part of the American motorsports scene dating back to the first record land
speed attempt there in 1914. The Salt Flats are a "National Landmark" and an
"Area of Critical Environmental Concern"  both of which are designations that
should trigger the Bureau of Land Management's immediate involvement.

Originally 96,000 acres, the Salt Flats are now a mere 30,000 acres. It's a
travesty, and something has to be done. I ask that you do everything in your
power to mitigate the damage being inflicted on the Salt Flats, including:


An Environmental Assessment that will require mining operators to implement a
permanent salt-replenishment program, requiring that miners replenish mined
salt at the same rate that it is removed.
A mandate that replenished salt be of the same, or better, quality than what
is removed, and that the replenishment program occur over a period of several
months to ensure that the salt is dispensed throughout the Salt Flats basin,
and that the underground aquifer is replenished.
Preventing salt from being removed from the Bonneville Salt Flats region for
commercial sale.
Action to make the program permanent and verifiable.Please help motorsports
enthusiasts protect these invaluable resources. Please save the Bonneville
Salt Flats.

Thank you.

Emails should be sent to:
director at blm.gov
CC: to SEMA at stuartg at sema.org

Letters should be mailed to:
Bureau of Land Management
U.S. Department of the Interior
Attention: The Honorable Robert Abbey, Director
1849 C Street NW, Washington, D.C. 20240

Thank you again for your support!



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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug  4 02:10:14 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:10:14 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Video - Race 1 at Oschersleben/Ger
In-Reply-To: <3FD0B9F48A3248BAAE8700BF80798137@gdhs.local>
References: <000901cc4ba2$cad2a790$6077f6b0$@com>
	<3FD0B9F48A3248BAAE8700BF80798137@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <001f01cc527d$f20e6100$d62b2300$@com>

This is an outside view and it starts at about 16min:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKx_uYWcFY

 

Cheers

Chris


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Aug  4 10:24:19 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:24:19 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
Message-ID: <F5DCF4800C06461693267BCB06CE8357@Charly>

6 cylinder head info
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
> out.   Sorry.
>
> mjb.
>
>
>
> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>
>
> GT6 Mk I        9.50
> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
> (early)
> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
> (late)
> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>
>
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Thu Aug  4 10:26:02 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:26:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
Message-ID: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>

More 6 cylinder head info
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


>
> Hi Charly,
>
> I won't comment on cwe right now...
>
> Regarding head thickness, Richard Good has a pretty good table on his web 
> site (www.goodparts.com) that can be used as a guideline, but keep in mind 
> that production of TR6 heads is far from perfect (owing to multiple 
> foundries and some other details), so the actual volume of the combustion 
> chambers can vary a few cc's here and there.
>
> The late heads (73 and later) for US federal emmision specs were cast / 
> finished at over 3.550 thickness to get the 7.75:1 compression ratio. YOu 
> have to mill a crap load of metal off those heads to get resonable 
> compression gain.
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> rml
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------


From bownes at seiri.com  Thu Aug  4 10:48:03 2011
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:48:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
In-Reply-To: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>
References: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOQDUE1FKNUUqz5CkwH+tuhB3J6OX+mapMLtt=5hf3T-CQ@mail.gmail.com>

And I can personally attest to having taken 0.250" (yes 1/4") off of one.

I think the next one I do will be a bit less radical. :) and yes, I'm still
looking for a late head.

Bob

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Charly Mitchel
<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>wrote:

> More 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:17 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>
>> Hi Charly,
>>
>> I won't comment on cwe right now...
>>
>> Regarding head thickness, Richard Good has a pretty good table on his web
>> site (www.goodparts.com) that can be used as a guideline, but keep in
>> mind that production of TR6 heads is far from perfect (owing to multiple
>> foundries and some other details), so the actual volume of the combustion
>> chambers can vary a few cc's here and there.
>>
>> The late heads (73 and later) for US federal emmision specs were cast /
>> finished at over 3.550 thickness to get the 7.75:1 compression ratio. YOu
>> have to mill a crap load of metal off those heads to get resonable
>> compression gain.
>>
>> I hope this helps!
>>
>> rml
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
>> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
>> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>>
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From jsnook at wcnet.org  Thu Aug  4 12:11:17 2011
From: jsnook at wcnet.org (Jeff Snook)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:11:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Vintage Car Shop Near Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <00dc01cc52d1$e835bc60$b8a13520$@org>

Hi all,

We have a customer with an MGB street car that is moving to Alexandria, VA,
and is looking for a shop to store his car, and also to do minor maintenance
if needed while in their care.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

Jeff Snook
http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
419-344-0319 (Mobile)


From mike.mehl at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  4 13:09:38 2011
From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:09:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
Message-ID: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters will
work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys run
for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of negative
camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
hoping to change that.  
 
Looking for feedback.
 
thanks!!!

Mike Mehl #46
TR4


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu Aug  4 13:29:18 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:29:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOQDUE1FKNUUqz5CkwH+tuhB3J6OX+mapMLtt=5hf3T-CQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2C0C44495DB54EFC92DB4601E628780E@Charly>
	<CAJ1+nOQDUE1FKNUUqz5CkwH+tuhB3J6OX+mapMLtt=5hf3T-CQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DBB9@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I had to mill 0.272" off of a TR6 head that had been put on my GT6
engine by some GDPO.  Worked fine - still working fine, in fact.  That
took the GT6 motor from 6.2:1 compression to 9.5:1.  Much improved!

Scott B.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of robert bownes
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:48 AM
To: Charly Mitchel
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head

And I can personally attest to having taken 0.250" (yes 1/4") off of
one.

I think the next one I do will be a bit less radical. :) and yes, I'm
still
looking for a late head.

Bob

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Charly Mitchel
<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>wrote:

> More 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang"
<lang at isis.mit.edu>
> To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:17 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>
>> Hi Charly,
>>
>> I won't comment on cwe right now...
>>
>> Regarding head thickness, Richard Good has a pretty good table on his
web
>> site (www.goodparts.com) that can be used as a guideline, but keep in
>> mind that production of TR6 heads is far from perfect (owing to
multiple
>> foundries and some other details), so the actual volume of the
combustion
>> chambers can vary a few cc's here and there.
>>
>> The late heads (73 and later) for US federal emmision specs were cast
/
>> finished at over 3.550 thickness to get the 7.75:1 compression ratio.
YOu
>> have to mill a crap load of metal off those heads to get resonable
>> compression gain.
>>
>> I hope this helps!
>>
>> rml
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
>> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
>> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ---------------
>>
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From billb at bnj.com  Thu Aug  4 14:05:55 2011
From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:05:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
In-Reply-To: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2F441E63-ECB0-45CB-A4B8-E94DBA342466@bnj.com>

Two to 2.5 is plenty for Speedsters, which seem to be a bit more like halfway
between radials (and certainly not slicks) and bias ply.
If your Triumph is faster than a well prepped rabbit you're doing well.

On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Mike Mehl wrote:

> I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters
will
> work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
> aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys
run
> for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
> have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of
negative
> camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
> Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
> hoping to change that.
>
> Looking for feedback.
>
> thanks!!!
>
> Mike Mehl #46
> TR4
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From mdhado at comcast.net  Thu Aug  4 15:13:11 2011
From: mdhado at comcast.net (M&M Hado)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:13:11 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
In-Reply-To: <F5DCF4800C06461693267BCB06CE8357@Charly>
Message-ID: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>

Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy info
when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also the
approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


6 cylinder head info
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head


> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
> out.   Sorry.
>
> mjb.
>
>
>
> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>
>
> GT6 Mk I        9.50
> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
> (early)
> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
> (late)
> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>
>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Thu Aug  4 21:14:16 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 22:14:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
In-Reply-To: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110805031531.42B61187897@autox.team.net>

Stock caster, very slight toe in, like 1/16", 2.5 degrees negative 
camber for me.  Very good turn in - I work on regulating oversteer 
not understeer.  The rear "traction links" and detroit locker may 
have something to do with that too.

Tony Drews

At 02:09 PM 8/4/2011, Mike Mehl wrote:
>I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters will
>work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
>aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys run
>for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
>have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of negative
>camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
>Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
>hoping to change that.
>
>Looking for feedback.
>
>thanks!!!
>
>Mike Mehl #46
>TR4
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 06:17:09 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:17:09 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
In-Reply-To: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
References: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com>

If anyone replies on this, please post it to the group or at least copy me on
it.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, M&M Hado wrote:

> Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy info
> when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also
the
> approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
> mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
> 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
>> out.   Sorry.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>>
>>
>> GT6 Mk I        9.50
>> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
>> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
>> (early)
>> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
>> (late)
>> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
>> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
>> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
>> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
>> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
>> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
>> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>>
>>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug  5 06:20:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:20:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
In-Reply-To: <14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com>
References: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
	<14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01cc536a$167de550$4379aff0$@com>

Just measured a head:

84.2 mm = 3.43"

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Duncan Charlton
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2011 14:17
An: M&M Hado
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info

If anyone replies on this, please post it to the group or at least copy me
on
it.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, M&M Hado wrote:

> Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy
info
> when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also
the
> approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
> mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
> 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
>> out.   Sorry.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>>
>>
>> GT6 Mk I        9.50
>> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
>> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
>> (early)
>> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
>> (late)
>> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
>> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
>> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
>> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
>> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
>> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
>> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>>
>>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug  5 09:09:09 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:09:09 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info
References: <NMEHJMAIKGLOPIMPEKNOIENAGIAA.mdhado@comcast.net>
	<14CF9A48-FBFB-4055-A896-185BF5D4ACCD@gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <004701cc5381$a1ec5b50$e5c511f0$@com>

Sorry - wrong divisor:

Just measured a head:

84.2 mm = 3.31"

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Duncan Charlton
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2011 14:17
An: M&M Hado
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 cylinder head info

If anyone replies on this, please post it to the group or at least copy me
on
it.

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red

On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, M&M Hado wrote:

> Does anyone have similar information on a TR2/3/4 head?  This is handy
info
> when trying to determine how much has been taken off previously and also
the
> approximate compression ratio.  I get asked this a lot.  If I'm not
> mistaken, the high port heads started out around 3.30" but not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:24 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Fw: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
> 6 cylinder head info
> Charly Mitchel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: <cwe at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWE] 6 cylinder head
>
>
>> The columns probably won't line up properly when this is sent
>> out.   Sorry.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Application       CR    Thickness   CC depth   CC volume
>>
>>
>> GT6 Mk I        9.50
>> GT6+            9.25     3.450     0.425       34
>> GT6 Mk III      9.25     3.32       .47        37
>> (early)
>> GT6 Mk III      8.0      3.40       .55        44
>> (late)
>> TR250, TR6      8.5      3.55       .60        48.5
>> TR6 middle      7.75     3.54       .68        55
>> TR6 late        7.5      3.55       .70        57
>> TR6 race 1     10.25     3.375      .52        41.6
>> TR6 race 2     12.3      3.295      .44        33
>> GT6 race 1     10.75     3.31       .385       30
>> GT6 race 2     12.75     3.22       .300       24.4
>>
>>
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Fri Aug  5 09:31:03 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (Jim Gray)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:31:03 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe
In-Reply-To: <1312484978.67628.YahooMailNeo@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110805153503.C97D61878BB@autox.team.net>

Mike,
I have used up to 3.5 on the front with very neutral handling but it's tough
on tires. I'm going to 2.5 this weekend and compare to past lap times.
I may switch back to 3.5 if they drop off. I use 1/8" total toe out.
I use the standard trunions for the IRS car and I don't know what the caster
is, I do wish I had a bit more though.
Somebody said to me once, do you want to save your tires or win races, 
I lean more to the winning side.

Jim g

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Mehl
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: Triumph Friends of
Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Caster - Camber - Toe

I have been working on getting some camber into my car so the Speedsters
will
work a little better.  I am putting the parts together this weekend. I am
aiming for between 2 and 3 degrees of negative camber.  What do you guys run
for toe and caster (if I can get some with out binding)?  The only thing I
have to compare is the Rabbit which we run toed out and 3 degrees of
negative
camber.  It is pretty darty but runs the same lap times at Seattle and
Portland as a fast TR4 (so I am faster in the Rabbit than my TR4).  I am
hoping to change that.  
 
Looking for feedback.
 
thanks!!!

Mike Mehl #46
TR4
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  5 09:51:11 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:51:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
Message-ID: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and were
quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile group:
 
1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke the
center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It was
an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them
for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to
tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices
are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
 
2. 
Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota caliper
conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on my
street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
rules as well).
 
Thanks for your help!
 
Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader
RiffRAF
Racing


From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Fri Aug  5 09:59:46 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Digital inspection camera
Message-ID: <1312559986.38597.YahooMailRC@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Is anyone using one of those digital inspection cameras to any great advantage
now that Harbor Freight has the price down to around $80?  Jim in Folsom, CA


From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Fri Aug  5 10:32:00 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:32:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi, I got a set of Rota wheels. Panasport knockoffs, made in the 
Philippines. I use them for rain/transport use. they are light and true.
$500 a set shipped.
Brakes: I use stock calipers with slotted rotors; they seem to work well. 
Also Porterfield pads and linings; worth the money. I also put on 7/8" rear 
wheel cylinders for more rear brakes.
Good job on the Chump Car thing!
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
> please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and 
> were
> quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile 
> group:
>
> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke 
> the
> center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It 
> was
> an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
> inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
> Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from 
> them
> for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes 
> to
> tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our 
> choices
> are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works 
> out
> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
> 2.
> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota 
> caliper
> conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on 
> my
> street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
> price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
> rules as well).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF
> Racing
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Aug  5 10:40:39 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:40:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
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I don't know the ChumpCar rules but Lemon's would have given us a tough time
buying new wheels under the "safety" exemption. I bought a set of old aluminum
race wheels from Sam Halkias for the Lemon's TR6 and they work great. They are
15X7 and we have 205-50-15 Falken Azenis  on them. Can you run 7" rims? The
Koenig Rewinds are cheap but have too much back space. If you do
longer/stronger studs and use a spacer they would be perfect. I bought 2 sets
a couple of years ago at $108.00 a rim from Discount Tire.

Our TR6 has lousy brakes too. It may be the booster and the fact that it is
all stock.  I'm thinking of switching it to what I have in my racecar TR4A. I
have dual 5/8" Wilwood Girling style master cylinders with a balance  bar on a
TR4 style bracket modified for the dual cylinders. The 5/8 cylinders can be
purchase for $50 each from Speedway motors, and you can copy the Racetorations
design using a TR4A pedal assembly.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Jamie Palmer
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:51 AM
To: Friends of Triumph
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6

For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and were
quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile group:

1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke the
center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It was
an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them
for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to
tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices
are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!

2.
Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota caliper
conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on my
street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
rules as well).

Thanks for your help!

Jamie Palmer
Squadron Leader
RiffRAF
Racing
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Aug  5 10:47:51 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:47:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
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I have been afraid to use better brake pads on the TR6. I should try a set but
I suspect we would wear race pads out before the day ends. There may be a good
endurance race pad out there but the Hawk Blues that stop my TR4A so
effectively wear pretty quickly and they aren't cheap.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of william r tobin
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:32 AM
To: Jamie Palmer; Friends of Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6

Hi, I got a set of Rota wheels. Panasport knockoffs, made in the Philippines.
I use them for rain/transport use. they are light and true.
$500 a set shipped.
Brakes: I use stock calipers with slotted rotors; they seem to work well.
Also Porterfield pads and linings; worth the money. I also put on 7/8" rear
wheel cylinders for more rear brakes.
Good job on the Chump Car thing!
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6
> ChumpCar, please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR
> 24 hrs. and were quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions
> for this erstwhile
> group:
>
> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen)
> broke the center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been
> using.  It was an...interesting...experience (I was driving).
> So...I've looked at inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is
> ChumpCar) and it looks like Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to
> go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them for a TR before?  Offset/width
> recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to tires, we're limited to
> 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices are quite
> limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
> 2.
> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota
> caliper conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the
> conversion on my street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or
> similar are out of our price range (and would probably violate the 2
> times stock pricing ChumpCar rules as well).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF
> Racing
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri Aug  5 11:05:43 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:05:43 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
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Message-ID: <20110805170602.C9684187656@autox.team.net>

I am using the Toyota caliper in a race application.  There's a 
little more area under the pad than stock, but I'm not sure it's a 
huge improvement.  Makes it easier to find calipers and brake pads though.

I also built a Racestoration knockoff dual circuit setup.

Tony Drews

At 10:51 AM 8/5/2011, Jamie Palmer wrote:
>For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
>please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and were
>quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile group:
>
>1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke the
>center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It was
>an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
>inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
>Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them
>for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to
>tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices
>are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
>about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
>2.
>Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota caliper
>conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on my
>street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
>price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
>rules as well).
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Jamie Palmer
>Squadron Leader
>RiffRAF
>Racing
>_______________________________________________
>fot at autox.team.net
>
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug  5 11:11:42 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:11:42 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
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	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <008501cc5392$c1614610$4423d230$@com>

I use EBC yellow pads since 2004.
The brake, they last, they are cheap.
But they don't bite, they brake gentle which I enjoy most on wet tracks.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Kramer, Robert
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2011 18:48
An: william r tobin; Jamie Palmer; Friends of Triumph
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6

I have been afraid to use better brake pads on the TR6. I should try a set
but
I suspect we would wear race pads out before the day ends. There may be a
good
endurance race pad out there but the Hawk Blues that stop my TR4A so
effectively wear pretty quickly and they aren't cheap.

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Fri Aug  5 11:47:54 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
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Message-ID: <703315B80B86467DB64D81CAF12FD81A@Charly>

Jamie.
Because of the rules of my race organization, I can't changed my calipers
and have to maintain the stock configuration.  I use EBC Green stuff pads
and I'm very happy with them.  I tried the Hawkspads and wasn't as happy
with those.  I also use the copper cooling wings as described by Mad Marx
Christian on them.  I don't run the long races like you do, but I stand on
them a lot harder than you do.
Charly Mitchel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 8:51 AM
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6 ChumpCar,
> please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR 24 hrs. and 
> were
> quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions for this erstwhile 
> group:
>
> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen) broke 
> the
> center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been using.  It 
> was
> an...interesting...experience (I was driving).  So...I've looked at
> inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is ChumpCar) and it looks like
> Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to go.  Anyone purchased 15's from 
> them
> for a TR before?  Offset/width recommendations?  Remember, when it comes 
> to
> tires, we're limited to 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our 
> choices
> are quite limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works 
> out
> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>
> 2.
> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota 
> caliper
> conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the conversion on 
> my
> street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or similar are out of our
> price range (and would probably violate the 2 times stock pricing ChumpCar
> rules as well).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Jamie Palmer
> Squadron Leader
> RiffRAF
> Racing
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
>
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Fri Aug  5 11:56:01 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:56:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
References: <1312559471.2237.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><9D51E0350F884FB6A8C045CB154C941F@owner8914bbf7f>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A535236FBBC@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <A9A32B20521946C9A1861166B580AEAB@Charly>

Oh yeah, also think about stiffening up the front spindles.
Charly Mitchel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kramer, Robert" <RKramer at rdoequipment.com>
To: "william r tobin" <william.tobin31 at verizon.net>; "Jamie Palmer" 
<tr6driver at yahoo.com>; "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6


>I have been afraid to use better brake pads on the TR6. I should try a set 
>but
> I suspect we would wear race pads out before the day ends. There may be a 
> good
> endurance race pad out there but the Hawk Blues that stop my TR4A so
> effectively wear pretty quickly and they aren't cheap.
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf
> Of william r tobin
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:32 AM
> To: Jamie Palmer; Friends of Triumph
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
>
> Hi, I got a set of Rota wheels. Panasport knockoffs, made in the 
> Philippines.
> I use them for rain/transport use. they are light and true.
> $500 a set shipped.
> Brakes: I use stock calipers with slotted rotors; they seem to work well.
> Also Porterfield pads and linings; worth the money. I also put on 7/8" 
> rear
> wheel cylinders for more rear brakes.
> Good job on the Chump Car thing!
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Palmer" <tr6driver at yahoo.com>
> To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Racing wheels and brakes for TR6
>
>
>> For those of you that have been following our saga with our TR6
>> ChumpCar, please know that we finished 20th out of 84 cars at the VIR
>> 24 hrs. and were quite pleased.  Nevertheless, I have two questions
>> for this erstwhile
>> group:
>>
>> 1.  We (as several of you have previously commented could happen)
>> broke the center out of one of the stock steel TR6 wheels we have been
>> using.  It was an...interesting...experience (I was driving).
>> So...I've looked at inexpensive alternatives (remember, this is
>> ChumpCar) and it looks like Diamond Racing wheels may be the way to
>> go.  Anyone purchased 15's from them for a TR before?  Offset/width
>> recommendations?  Remember, when it comes to tires, we're limited to
>> 190 treadwear or greater street tires, so our choices are quite
>> limited (we've been running 205/50-15's and the gearing works out
>> about right, given our tiny power level).  Interested in all thoughts!
>>
>> 2.
>> Also had some brake issues.  Does anyone recommend going to the Toyota
>> caliper conversion for a race application?  Just curious, I have the
>> conversion on my street TR6 and am very happy with it.  Wildwoods or
>> similar are out of our price range (and would probably violate the 2
>> times stock pricing ChumpCar rules as well).
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Jamie Palmer
>> Squadron Leader
>> RiffRAF
>> Racing


From rjohns at woh.rr.com  Fri Aug  5 16:57:16 2011
From: rjohns at woh.rr.com (Robert Johns)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:57:16 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Message to Jeff Snook
Message-ID: <10EC3D07DED94918905F6C8825C15DC7@Bucktailus>

 Contact Bob Johns off line.  419-619-1208


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From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:22:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Deadline is MONDAY for flags!
References: <1312400789.15162.YahooMailRC@web80803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <41447633-DFAB-4613-821C-8B34D1779C20@aol.com>

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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> Deadline to order is august 8, 2011.  I will place the order then and they
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>> 
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>> Chris Bock
>> 3630 Italia Ave
>> Vineland, NJ
>> 08361
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> PS Badges are still available


From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au  Sat Aug  6 20:16:06 2011
From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 12:16:06 +1000
Subject: [Fot] 6cyl head
Message-ID: <CA+UW8b3AcKNcXTjHznKPJwr2QbqsP9DcPCmto1dh2a1eXttrzw@mail.gmail.com>

i'm really surprised what you did has lasted. they are different castings
and the face of the head gets very thin when you do this. i did one years
ago as a trial, and we could not hold head gaskets as the thickness of metal
between the gasket face and the cooling jacket was reduced too far (by 1/4")
Terry


From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net  Sun Aug  7 15:23:50 2011
From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:23:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Alternator help
Message-ID: <1312752230.50804.YahooMailClassic@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 8/4/11, EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net> wrote:


From: EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>
Subject: Alternator help
To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 9:31 PM







Group: Last month someone was having a problem with their one wire Denso
alternator not charging above 12.5 volts or so. I don't remember what the fix
was. My son has put one on his '70 Datsun P/U ratrod and at every rpm it only
puts out 12.5-12.7 volts off the output terminal. I hate to tell him to start
jumping any of the other terminals for fear he'll ruin a brand new alternator.
Can someone please jog my memory on the conclusion of the previous similar
issue?
Thank you in advance - Ed 


From budscars at comcast.net  Sun Aug  7 20:28:21 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:28:21 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Stolen race car alert
Message-ID: <1B17B838913A49DB8DF7ABE5E6B8C5D4@Bud>

  Pablo Gonzalezbs Stanguellini Fjr. serial number #S00196, #80 Blue with a
yellow stripe was stolen last nite in San Antonio Texas.



  Here is a picture of the car.

  .

  Please pass this email on to anyone you know may be offered the car. I am
sure Pablo would be very thankful of any information.



  Here is Pablobs email address: pgs at uniexcel.com

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg]


From norlinengineering at comcast.net  Sun Aug  7 22:06:50 2011
From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Jim Norlin)
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:06:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Gearbox woes and trash talk
Message-ID: <4E3F60DA.3010704@comcast.net>

So we had a good weekend with the Spitfire until the gearbox croaked.  
Patty's turn to drive and she did a great job, finishing 3rd in class on 
Saturday out of 9 cars.  Her qualifying time this morning was less than 
a second off my best time at the Portland Historic Races last month.    
She was racing for the class lead this afternoon when the gearbox packed 
it in - stuck in 2nd gear.

We're running a modified GT 6 gearbox.  She caught 2nd for one of the 
slower corners and then could  not find either 3rd or 4th.  She was able 
to get 2nd, but we can't move the lever at all anymore.  I'm not sure if 
it's a problem with the selector forks/shafts or if the clip holding all 
the gears on the output shaft came off.  I'm heading off on a business 
trip in the morning and won't be able to look at the car until next 
weekend.  Anyone got any idea of what I might have to be dealing with?

Now for the trash talk.  Patty had an incredible run with a MIdget in 
Qualifying this morning and they were nose to tail in the race until the 
gearbox failed.  After the race in impound, the Midget driver told Patty 
something like - if you had 5 more horsepower, we'd have a great race.  
She got all over him and responded - "If I had five more horsepower, I'd 
leave you in my dust".  His response to the crowd around them was "This 
is what I like about vintage racing - being trash talked by a grandma!" -lol

Got 3 weeks to get things fixed before my last race of the season.


From jhouathome at aol.com  Mon Aug  8 13:52:48 2011
From: jhouathome at aol.com (jhouathome at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:52:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
Message-ID: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>

Anyone have a set of Weber 40's or 45's for sale?  I have the manifold,
gaskets and linkage in place on a set of Dell Ortos that I can't make work, so
I just need the carbs.  These are for the Kellison bodied TR4.  Looks great,
won't run.  Story of my life with racecars!
Thanks,
John Houlton


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Mon Aug  8 14:57:41 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:57:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
In-Reply-To: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5357D27586@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

http://www.piercemanifolds.com/


Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of jhouathome at aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:53 PM
To: FOT at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?

Anyone have a set of Weber 40's or 45's for sale?  I have the manifold,
gaskets and linkage in place on a set of Dell Ortos that I can't make work, so
I just need the carbs.  These are for the Kellison bodied TR4.  Looks great,
won't run.  Story of my life with racecars!
Thanks,
John Houlton
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From budscars at comcast.net  Mon Aug  8 15:32:41 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 14:32:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
References: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5357D27586@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
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The Pierce manifold people are terrific to deal with.
Racer Bud
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> http://www.piercemanifolds.com/
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf
> Of jhouathome at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:53 PM
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> Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
>
> Anyone have a set of Weber 40's or 45's for sale?  I have the manifold,
> gaskets and linkage in place on a set of Dell Ortos that I can't make 
> work, so
> I just need the carbs.  These are for the Kellison bodied TR4.  Looks 
> great,
> won't run.  Story of my life with racecars!
> Thanks,
> John Houlton
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From 1964spitfire at pacbell.net  Mon Aug  8 17:52:52 2011
From: 1964spitfire at pacbell.net (Tim Pettenati)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:52:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spotted on craigslist - 1965 Triumph TR4 - $1250 (concord /
 pleasant hill / martinez) California
Message-ID: <1312847572.79024.YahooMailRC@web180316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Listed as a project car.  Photo doesn't look too far gone.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2534545789.html

NFI

Cheers,
Tim


From REK46 at aol.com  Tue Aug  9 10:56:34 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:56:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
Message-ID: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris 
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years 
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more 
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished 
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and has  
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic 
collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic 
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of 
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his email 
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can 
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.


From JWILEY at CENTENE.COM  Tue Aug  9 11:15:44 2011
From: JWILEY at CENTENE.COM (John Wiley)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:15:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
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I would second

John C. Wiley

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I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic
collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From fasttrs at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  9 11:16:02 2011
From: fasttrs at yahoo.com (Mike Munson)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:16:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
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Second! We need more SCCA guys!

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:56 AM, REK46 at aol.com wrote:

> I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris
> has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years
> than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more
> recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished
> 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has
> a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic
> collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic
> member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of
> experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email
> in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can
> get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46
Fprod.
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From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Aug  9 11:29:28 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <81B076ED10BD4ADF88D25DBC320BCDBE@Vista>

I'm surprised he has not been nominated before now.  I have been following
his SCCA exploits for a long time and would be proud to have him as a
member.

Joe C.

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Behalf Of REK46 at aol.com
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Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris 
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years 
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more 
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished 
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has  
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic

collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic 
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of 
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email 
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can 
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From riverside at southslope.net  Tue Aug  9 11:31:15 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:31:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
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References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
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An enthusiastic 2nd!

art de armond

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To: fot at autox.team.net ; spitracer1296 at yahoo.com
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and 
has
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic
collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his 
email
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Aug  9 11:31:06 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:31:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004e01cc56ba$1f15f420$5d41dc60$@rr.com>

2nd !!
Welcome.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

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Behalf Of REK46 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:57 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net; spitracer1296 at yahoo.com
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee

I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris  Crisenberry...Chris 
has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA Spitfire  racer for more years 
than he wanted me to mention...He has raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more 
recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a very successful   record having finished 
2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and
has  
a great 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic

collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a fantastic 
member to have on board and can certainly contribute a  "vast" amount of 
experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing prep,etc...I  have copied his
email 
in and if any further info is needed,please let me  know....I hope we can 
get some 'seconds' to welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue Aug  9 11:34:25 2011
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:34:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] New Nominee
Message-ID: <25840618.728162.1312911265765.JavaMail.alfetta95@mail.srv.lgcyny1.cv.net>

I second.

Welcome Chris!


On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, REK46 at aol.com wrote:

> I'd like to nominate a new member  for FOT....Chris 
> Crisenberry...Chris has been a long time friend and fellow SCCA 
> Spitfire  racer for more years than he wanted me to mention...He has 
> raced G/Prod 1147s  forever, and more recently  HP/LP 1296s...He has a 
> very successful   record having finished 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,and 6th at 
> the SCCA  Runoffs. He  lives near Jackson,MI and has  a great 
> 'workshop' where he spends most time  with Triumphs and his eclectic 
> collection of Mini;s and crazy toys....I think he  would be a 
> fantastic member to have on board and can certainly contribute a 
> "vast" amount of experience and knowledge about Spitfire racing 
> prep,etc...I  have copied his email in and if any further info is 
> needed,please let me  know....I hope we can get some 'seconds' to 
> welcome him to our  group....Rick  Kristoff  46 Fprod.
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  9 13:36:06 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:36:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Another Nomination
Message-ID: <1312918566.70488.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This must have fallen through the cracks.


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To: fot at autox.team.net
Cc: busterwcr at aol.com
Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011 3:41:24 PM
Subject: Nomination

I would like to nominate Rich Johnson to this esteemed group.

He races a FP/HP Spitfire, usually at Waterford Hills and in SCCA.

Thanks,

Doug


From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  9 13:37:17 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:37:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Spitfire For Sale
Message-ID: <1312918637.26062.YahooMailRC@web80806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Another post that got lost somewhere between my account and the list.



-----
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To:
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Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011 3:43:27 PM
Subject: Spitfire For
Sale

Amici,

Orval Turley has decided to sell his FP (I think) Spitfire.
I don't have any other details, so please contact Orval
directly at
oturley1 at aol.com.

Doug


From REK46 at aol.com  Tue Aug  9 14:06:37 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Another Nomination
Message-ID: <1ed2f.48fb5bf6.3b72ed4d@aol.com>

I know Rich...a good guy...I'll second it....Rick
 
 
In a message dated 8/9/2011 3:55:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
dmitchel at sbcglobal.net writes:

This  must have fallen through the cracks.


----- Forwarded Message  ----
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To:  fot at autox.team.net
Cc: busterwcr at aol.com
Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011  3:41:24 PM
Subject: Nomination

I would like to nominate Rich Johnson  to this esteemed group.

He races a FP/HP Spitfire, usually at Waterford  Hills and in  SCCA.

Thanks,

Doug
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From donmarshall at nefcom.net  Tue Aug  9 14:55:21 2011
From: donmarshall at nefcom.net (Don Marshall)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:55:21 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Looking for Hoosier 185.60-13s
Message-ID: <op.vzysejx2airs7i@don-pc.belkin>

I'm still prepping my "new" Spit for the VDCA event at Roebling Road next  
month and I need tires.  The car is being converted from SCCA on slicks  
and doesn't appear to have enough clearance for the Hoosier Street TD A70s  
(205.60-13).  Does anyone have a set of usable 185.60-13s they would be  
willing to part with?  These are roughly the same diameter as the slicks  
so I think they'll fit OK but I don't want to spring for a new set until  
I'm sure.  I may also be looking for a set of wheels if anyone has extras  
they want to talk about.  Thanks, Don


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Wed Aug 10 03:25:51 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:25:51 +0200
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com>

Hi Guys,

I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late that
one wheel is a 5.5" one.
He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.

Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?

Cheers
Chris


From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 10 09:51:48 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:51:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for Hoosier 185.60-13s
In-Reply-To: <op.vzysejx2airs7i@don-pc.belkin>
References: <op.vzysejx2airs7i@don-pc.belkin>
Message-ID: <D44CFB1F-46E4-4A1A-8E41-728C1596C97B@earthlink.net>

Call JB racing tires for USED still good racing tires.  NFI

http://www.jbracingtires.net/

~Steve




On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Don Marshall wrote:

I'm still prepping my "new" Spit for the VDCA event at Roebling Road  
next
month and I need tires.  The car is being converted from SCCA on slicks
and doesn't appear to have enough clearance for the Hoosier Street TD  
A70s
(205.60-13).  Does anyone have a set of usable 185.60-13s they would be
willing to part with?  These are roughly the same diameter as the slicks
so I think they'll fit OK but I don't want to spring for a new set until
I'm sure.  I may also be looking for a set of wheels if anyone has  
extras
they want to talk about.  Thanks, Don
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Wed Aug 10 16:13:46 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:13:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
Message-ID: <77134084.365638.1313014426443.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

FoT 

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the bolts 

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them. 

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping 

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod 

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances. 

Thanks as always, 

jim g 


From jsiam1 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 10 21:01:25 2011
From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (jsiam1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:01:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Seal saver
Message-ID: <644203231-1313031685-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1788578409-@b15.c8.bise6.blackberry>

Hi I'm looking for a seal saver for the back of a spitfire crank.  Anyone have a source?  Thanks. Joe
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From jaboruch at netzero.net  Wed Aug 10 21:06:43 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:06:43 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Pocono SCCA National
Message-ID: <20110810.230643.14686.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Any FOTers going to be at the Pocono SCCA National?  I will be there with my
TR3.  Joe(B)

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 11 07:17:22 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:17:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY
Message-ID: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>

Mark your calendars and make your plans:


APRIL  2012

10TH RUNNING OF THE KASTNER CUP

Road Atlanta

Kas Kastner is the GRAND MARSHALL of this HSR event known as

THE MITTY

Henry Frye is CHAIRMAN of this FOT event and is working with Andy Reid of
Classic Motorsports.


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 09:18:37 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:18:37 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
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I never used plastic gage for the bearing clearance.
To measure this I always take dial gauges which in my opinion is more
precise as you can also estimate the out of roundness of the parts.

Cheers
Chris

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Auftrag von toodamnfunky at comcast.net
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 00:14
An: fot
Betreff: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

FoT

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the
bolts

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them.

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances.

Thanks as always,

jim g
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From toodamnfunky at comcast.net  Thu Aug 11 09:56:41 2011
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (toodamnfunky at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:56:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <004001cc5839$f2ecd810$d8c68830$@com>
Message-ID: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Chris, 

I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine how to size the journals. 

I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the machinst and/or check clearances 

while the motor is in the car. 



Jim G 


----- Original Message -----


From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:18:37 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances 

I never used plastic gage for the bearing clearance. 
To measure this I always take dial gauges which in my opinion is more 
precise as you can also estimate the out of roundness of the parts. 

Cheers 
Chris 

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- 
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im 
Auftrag von toodamnfunky at comcast.net 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 00:14 
An: fot 
Betreff: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances 

FoT 

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the 
bolts 

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them. 

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping 

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod 

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances. 

Thanks as always, 

jim g 
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:15:34 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:15:34 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <004001cc5839$f2ecd810$d8c68830$@com>
	<766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <005401cc5841$e7a6f960$b6f4ec20$@com>

Hi Jim,



I have the same method as you to tap the bearing caps off.

Sorry that Ibm of any help to you.



Cheers

Chris



Von: toodamnfunky at comcast.net [mailto:toodamnfunky at comcast.net]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 17:57
An: MadMarx
Cc: Friends of Triumph
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances



Chris,

I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine how
to size the journals.

I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the machinst
and/or check clearances

while the motor is in the car.



Jim G

  _____

From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:18:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

I never used plastic gage for the bearing clearance.
To measure this I always take dial gauges which in my opinion is more
precise as you can also estimate the out of roundness of the parts.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von toodamnfunky at comcast.net
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 00:14
An: fot
Betreff: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

FoT

With the rods I have, in order to seperate the caps I have to back out the
bolts

a few turns and tap the bolts with a soft mallet to seperate them.

I use plastigauge to check my main clearances but it seems that tapping

on the rod bolts may tend to affect a plastigauge measurements on the rod

journals. I'd appreciate any feedback on checking rod clearances.

Thanks as always,

jim g
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:19:38 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:19:38 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <005901cc5842$795bd8d0$6c138a70$@com>

There will be another Kastner Cup this year.
As Kas will come to the Eifelrace in September and we thought it would be a
great idea to have a onetime only Kastner Cup in Europe.

To all European Triumph racers....this is your chance to win this trophy and
KEEP it!

Cheers
Chris


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 11 10:29:31 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:29:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <005901cc5842$795bd8d0$6c138a70$@com>
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	<005901cc5842$795bd8d0$6c138a70$@com>
Message-ID: <8CE265AFB8C71E1-2160-128A4@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>

Outstanding!

Keep us posted.

Joe A.






-----Original Message-----
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2011 11:23 am
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace


There will be another Kastner Cup this year.
As Kas will come to the Eifelrace in September and we thought it would be a
great idea to have a onetime only Kastner Cup in Europe.

To all European Triumph racers....this is your chance to win this trophy and
KEEP it!

Cheers
Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:49:44 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:49:44 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <OF016A0918.EE8BF145-ONC12578E9.005BA22E@LocalDomain>
References: <OF016A0918.EE8BF145-ONC12578E9.005BA22E@LocalDomain>
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Hi Peter,

the event takes place from 9th to 11th - Friday to Sunday.
The 3H race of the Triumph Competition and other series is a Saturday late
afternoon to early evening.
Start about 17.00 o'clock.
Practice is at Saturday morning.
At Sunday at 14.00 we have a 30 minute race to fill the Sunday with action.

Entry form (just for information)
http://tr-register.de/joomla/images/stories/tr-register/Sport/PDF/tr_register
_eifelrennen_2011.pdf
Schedule
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&
id=4&Itemid=84
Paddock
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/images/stories/dokumente/2011/orientierungspla
n_070611_neu.pdf


Cheers
Chris


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 11 10:51:27 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:51:27 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
References: <OF016A0918.EE8BF145-ONC12578E9.005BA22E@LocalDomain> 
Message-ID: <006701cc5846$ec100690$c43013b0$@com>

Sorry - they pulled us earlier as I see.

15.40 is the race at Saturday.

Cheers
Chris

-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: MadMarx [mailto:tr4racing at googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 18:50
An: 'peter.bulkowski at mercedes-benz.ca'
Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net'
Betreff: AW: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace

Hi Peter,

the event takes place from 9th to 11th - Friday to Sunday.
The 3H race of the Triumph Competition and other series is a Saturday late
afternoon to early evening.
Start about 17.00 o'clock.
Practice is at Saturday morning.
At Sunday at 14.00 we have a 30 minute race to fill the Sunday with action.

Entry form (just for information)
http://tr-register.de/joomla/images/stories/tr-register/Sport/PDF/tr_register
_eifelrennen_2011.pdf
Schedule
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&
id=4&Itemid=84
Paddock
http://www.adac-eifelrennen.de/images/stories/dokumente/2011/orientierungspla
n_070611_neu.pdf


Cheers
Chris


From gaf3 at charter.net  Thu Aug 11 13:19:20 2011
From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:19:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
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I have been using platigauge for years. Works great. Just built an 
engine last month and have two in process right now.
I check out of round of the journals with a digital mic, but bearing 
clearances with platigauge on the mains and rods.
Most of my engine builds have been street performance engines and I 
always have my automotive machine shop grind and polish the crank.
I'm old school and used to use an inside mike on the ID then check the 
difference to the OD (PITA).
Glenn
On 8/11/2011 11:56 AM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
> Chris,
>
> I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine how to size the journals.
>
> I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the machinst and/or check clearances
>
> while the motor is in the car.
>
>
>
> Jim G


From jerrybarr at charter.net  Thu Aug 11 13:30:28 2011
From: jerrybarr at charter.net (Jerry Barr)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:30:28 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>
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	<4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>
Message-ID: <DF7D804C-63A5-4CFF-B99C-5E5259232E97@charter.net>

I assemble the bearing caps on the block then use a dial bore gage or inside
micrometer to determine the size and roundness of the bearing bore. Then
install the bearings and retorque the caps and check the inside diameter of
the bearings for size and roundness. Or just use plastigage.
On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Glenn Franco wrote:

> I have been using platigauge for years. Works great. Just built an engine
last month and have two in process right now.
> I check out of round of the journals with a digital mic, but bearing
clearances with platigauge on the mains and rods.
> Most of my engine builds have been street performance engines and I always
have my automotive machine shop grind and polish the crank.
> I'm old school and used to use an inside mike on the ID then check the
difference to the OD (PITA).
> Glenn
> On 8/11/2011 11:56 AM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine
how to size the journals.
>>
>> I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the
machinst and/or check clearances
>>
>> while the motor is in the car.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim G
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Thu Aug 11 17:51:08 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:51:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY
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Message-ID: <31289744-9B1E-46EB-B502-487E555EE2AD@aol.com>

When in April so I can make sure I schedule it. I wanna go real bad!

On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:17 AM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> Mark your calendars and make your plans:
> 
> 
> APRIL  2012
> 
> 10TH RUNNING OF THE KASTNER CUP
> 
> Road Atlanta
> 
> Kas Kastner is the GRAND MARSHALL of this HSR event known as
> 
> THE MITTY
> 
> Henry Frye is CHAIRMAN of this FOT event and is working with Andy Reid of
> Classic Motorsports.
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 11 17:55:03 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:55:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY
In-Reply-To: <31289744-9B1E-46EB-B502-487E555EE2AD@aol.com>
References: <8CE264023C9514E-2160-D250@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>
	<31289744-9B1E-46EB-B502-487E555EE2AD@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE269938EA8FC5-2160-1CDFB@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>

The last weekend in April.

 Henry will be publishing the general details as FOT EVENT CHAIRMAN.

Everyone should be flying their new FOT FLAGS.

JOE A.









-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock <SeaCubeCo at aol.com>
To: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2011 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE MITTY


When in April so I can make sure I schedule it. I wanna go real bad!

On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:17 AM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> Mark your calendars and make your plans:
>
>
> APRIL  2012
>
> 10TH RUNNING OF THE KASTNER CUP
>
> Road Atlanta
>
> Kas Kastner is the GRAND MARSHALL of this HSR event known as
>
> THE MITTY
>
> Henry Frye is CHAIRMAN of this FOT event and is working with Andy Reid of
> Classic Motorsports.
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>
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From kaskas at cox.net  Fri Aug 12 18:27:36 2011
From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:27:36 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FW: 1965 Sebring ...
In-Reply-To: <009401cc58a2$72e9c150$58bd43f0$@net>
References: <009401cc58a2$72e9c150$58bd43f0$@net>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W417539833B5AA210FC062ADF240@phx.gbl>

This is the 1965 race for the factory Spitfire coupes that I ran that year.
This is the time the right rear tire floated away in the pits during a tire
change to wet tires.  Fun now to see, but terrible then. I had a cheap  cowboy
hat and it kind of melted and hung down over my ears when Jim Hall went out of
the pits and covered me with a wave of water. Bolton had crashed the lead
Spitfire on the 5th lap  but the other two cars finished for second and third
in the catagory.

Never be beaten by equipment
 From: rj8083 at verizon.net
To: rj8083 at verizon.net
Subject: 1965 Sebring ...
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:46:41 -0500



1965 Sebring 12-Hour Race

5.2 mile course w/famous names & cars, & trite "What's it like out there"
commentary.
No ARMCO, no firesuits, no driveover bridge to the paddock, a few haybales,
etc. Enjoy!

Part 1/5, ~5 min

Part 2/5, ~5 min

Part 3/5, ~3 min

Part 4/5, ~6 min

Part 5/5, ~5.5 min
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Aug 12 20:39:39 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:39:39 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Anyone selling Webers?
In-Reply-To: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE241BE2033730-1180-24705@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E45E3EB.1050108@bradakis.com>

Oops.  There's an issue involving Webers I *really* need to deal with ASAP.
Thanks for the reminder.

mjb.


From tstrange at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 13 10:02:34 2011
From: tstrange at sbcglobal.net (tom strange)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:02:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] who's going
Message-ID: <1313251354.89272.YahooMailRC@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Two races ....  

Who plans to do the midwestern council race at RA?

and ....
Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at RA?
 
Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire


From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 13 12:59:46 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Was anyone close to Mark Joslyn?
Message-ID: <1313261986.18547.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I bought some items from Mark's estate and among them was a great large
picture of him driving the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile.  Unfortunately, I didn't
know Mark but I'm betting some of you did and would be a better place for this
picture than me.  I'll be happy to ship it to someone that would appreciate it
:-)

Jamie Palmer


From jason at multivintage.com  Sat Aug 13 13:24:09 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (jason at multivintage.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:24:09 +0000
Subject: [Fot] who's going
In-Reply-To: <1313251354.89272.YahooMailRC@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1313251354.89272.YahooMailRC@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.33.1638252564.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

I'll be there with my GT6.
Hope everything holds up as I'm racing at Grattan the week before which is hard on the car. I've been preping the car nightly for weeks. Looking forward to some serious racing action in back to back weekends!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: tom strange <tstrange at sbcglobal.net>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:02:34 
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] who's going

Two races ....  

Who plans to do the midwestern council race at RA?

and ....
Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at RA?
 
Tom
http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm


#4 white spitfire
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From Gt6steve at aol.com  Sat Aug 13 13:37:45 2011
From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:37:45 EDT
Subject: [Fot] who's going
Message-ID: <9896.1c288811.3b782c89@aol.com>

So I guess the clutch worked???  Yaaaaahooooo!!
 
 
In a message dated 8/13/2011 12:28:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
jason at multivintage.com writes:

I'll be  there with my GT6.
Hope everything holds up as I'm racing at Grattan the  week before which is 
hard on the car. I've been preping the car nightly for  weeks. Looking 
forward to some serious racing action in back to back  weekends!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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-----Original Message-----
From: tom strange  <tstrange at sbcglobal.net>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat,  13 Aug 2011 09:02:34 
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot]  who's going

Two races ....  

Who plans to do the midwestern  council race at RA?

and ....
Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at  RA?

Tom
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sat Aug 13 15:25:05 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:25:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] who's going
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I'll be at ELVF...

Tony

At 11:02 AM 8/13/2011, tom strange wrote:
>Two races ....
>
>Who plans to do the midwestern council race at RA?
>
>and ....
>Who plans to do the ELVF with VSCDA at RA?
>
>Tom
>http://www.fot-racing.com/spit/caption/tom_strange.htm
>
>
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From triosan at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 22:36:53 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:36:53 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

-- 
Chuck Arnold


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Aug 14 00:52:35 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:52:35 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.34.1638252564.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

I use the same setup with a 1.5 ohm coil but do use a 1.5 ohm resistor.
Works fine.
The coil is a red bosch one.

Cheers 
Chris
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" <triosan at gmail.com>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:36:53 
To: Friends<fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation

I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

-- 
Chuck Arnold
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sun Aug 14 04:20:42 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:20:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>

you might check in with Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors.

like Sean says, 'he is passionate about distributors'>

he will likely recommend a Bosch.

send the whole assembly to him and he will set it up to your engine
specifications.






-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley <triosan at gmail.com>
To: Friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 11:40 pm
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation


I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

--
Chuck Arnold
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Sun Aug 14 05:55:43 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:55:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9059CADAE5EB4C288067845C769CD18E@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi Chuck, I run a Pertronix brand distributor and have been told that a 0.6 
ohm coil is needed with that dist. No ballast needed.
It's been working fine for a couple years. I did have a coil fail last year 
but I think that falls under the crap happens thing. No further problems.
Is your charging system OK? Just wondering.
Good luck.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" <triosan at gmail.com>
To: "Friends" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:36 AM
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation


>I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
> electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
> combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to 
> believe
> the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 
> 1.5
> ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
> problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run 
> [nut
> that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
> early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The 
> first
> session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
> and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the 
> car
> died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel 
> system
> was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
> session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and 
> then
> it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
> after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so 
> I
> replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
> hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
> This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have 
> had
> a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
> the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
> chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind 
> the
> wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
> tows in a day they owned the car.
>
> So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
> Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast? 
> Am
> thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but 
> no
> sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix 
> tech
> support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
> Chuck Arnold
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Sun Aug 14 07:18:39 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:18:39 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000e01cc5a84$b0f4adf0$12de09d0$@com>

I cannot recommend to use the resistor which does come with the Bosch coil.
The resistor gets hot and its value rises from 1.6 to 1.9 Ohms.
If so then you have trouble to start the car when it's hot during a race.
The coil itself is doing very well.

I replaced that resistor with a 1.5Ohms 25Watt unit which works fine so far.
But I carry a replacement of 100 Watt if the 25W would fail one day.

Cheers
Chris


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Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von n197tr4 at cs.com
Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. August 2011 12:21
An: triosan at gmail.com; fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Coil recommendation

you might check in with Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors.

like Sean says, 'he is passionate about distributors'>

he will likely recommend a Bosch.

send the whole assembly to him and he will set it up to your engine
specifications.






-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley <triosan at gmail.com>
To: Friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 11:40 pm
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation


I have a Pertronix distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes into the session the car
died.   After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking, determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

--
Chuck Arnold
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From malaboge at aol.com  Sun Aug 14 16:09:29 2011
From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:09:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot]  Coil recommendation
In-Reply-To: <8CE28CE79034D0B-2180-20E83@Webmail-d104.sysops.aol.com>
References: <CAMc4sNC1Fa+HtaOnhxyxjAiU53VDADmCuqqMsPDufSw8nj5uMQ@mail.gmail.com><8CE2882F4B5BAED-19D4-13A83@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com>
	<000e01cc5a84$b0f4adf0$12de09d0$@com>
	<8CE28CE79034D0B-2180-20E83@Webmail-d104.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE28E5F8F8F92E-186C-5F058@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com>

Chris-

I have run a similar setup with similar issues.  I installed a "ballast
bypass" to a switch on the dash.  Bypass the ballast to start and then open
the circuit to run through the resistor.  It was not something that you could
forget to do as the toggle I used was a "momentary" switch, ie. you had to
hold it on while starting and as soon as you let go it opened that circuit.

Why are those silly electrons so important...you can't even see 'em...
Nick in Nor Cal







-----Original Message-----
From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2011 6:25 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil recommendation


I cannot recommend to use the resistor which does come with the Bosch coil.
he resistor gets hot and its value rises from 1.6 to 1.9 Ohms.
f so then you have trouble to start the car when it's hot during a race.
he coil itself is doing very well.
I replaced that resistor with a 1.5Ohms 25Watt unit which works fine so far.
ut I carry a replacement of 100 Watt if the 25W would fail one day.
Cheers
hris


From cwnfot at gmail.com  Sun Aug 14 18:04:56 2011
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:04:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bob Tulius at Lime Rock over Labor Day weekend.
Message-ID: <000101cc5ade$f80d4300$e827c900$@com>

Lime Rock press release (I'll be there crewing for #928 MGTD)
More information at www.limerock.com :

The best vintage racing festival and Concours on the East Coast is here at
Lime Rock Park Labor Day weekend, September 2  5, and we wanted to tell you
about some of the highlights.
 
Its called Historic Festival 29 Presented by Jaguar  the companion event
is the Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs  and for the
Saturday and Monday races, Chairman Murray Smith was able to gather the
largest field in the history of the event: 321 cars!
 
As an example of the increasing prestige of Lime Rock Parks Historic
Festival, there are cars coming from all over the world just to race here:
Australia, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland,
Antigua  even New Jersey!
 
There are 12 race groups, from pre-war to the 50s- and 60s-eras, plus a
tremendous group of F2, Formula Ford and Formula Junior open-wheelers from
the 60s and 70s. Fantastic...
 
There are two special race groups, too: a Jaguar-only field and an MG-only
group.
 
The Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs will present close
to 600 cars parked on the race track for show, including special Shelby and
MG collections! The 200+ Concours entrants will pack the front straight,
while the Car Show and Gathering of the Clubs will cover the rest of the
track.
 
We also want to tell you that there are three very special racing people
coming to Historic Festival 29.
 
The Honored Guest is Bob Tullius, the former driver and team owner (Group
44) who made Jaguar such a successful racing organization in the 70s, 80s
and 90s. Hes a friendly, approachable star, so keep your ears open for the
PA announcements advising when hell be free to talk to the fans.
 
The Honored Collector is Dr. Fred Simeone, whose Simeone Foundation Auto
Museum in Philadelphia is considered one of the finest with respect to
significant race cars. Hes bringing four outstanding vehicles: a D Type
Jaguar, third at Sebring, to enhance Jaguar's presence at our event; a K3
MG, the best-placed of all MGs at Le Mans; the DBR1 Aston Martin World
Champion Sports Racer, one of the best looking racing cars ever built; and
an Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 with a fabulous body by the house of Castagna,
absolutely unrestored (like the K3), and also like the MG, in a true state
of grace.

Clark


From triosan at gmail.com  Sun Aug 14 22:07:47 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:07:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Who on the list is contact for autometer?
Message-ID: <CAMc4sND+4537jRF_0t+1mHnXMUVk+DuAiRD055wUgrwus1gZoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Need a tach.

-- 
Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley


From jkhagen at charter.net  Mon Aug 15 07:30:21 2011
From: jkhagen at charter.net (jkhagen at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:30:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Bob Tulius at Lime Rock over Labor Day weekend.
Message-ID: <7efc2f15.4e2b8.131cda2c538.Webtop.44@charter.net>

There are at least 4 cars going from Mpls, Mn area   It is also MG 
feature event
so I'll take the MG powered TVR--[sorry]--The following week to Watkins 
Glen
if everything is still turning!   John Hagen [TR-4]


On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Clark W. Nicholls wrote:

> Lime Rock press release (I'll be there crewing for #928 MGTD)
> More information at www.limerock.com :
>
> The best vintage racing festival and Concours on the East Coast is 
> here at
> Lime Rock Park Labor Day weekend, September 2  5, and we wanted to 
> tell you
> about some of the highlights.
>  Its called Historic Festival 29 Presented by Jaguar  the companion 
> event
> is the Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs  and for 
> the
> Saturday and Monday races, Chairman Murray Smith was able to gather 
> the
> largest field in the history of the event: 321 cars!
>  As an example of the increasing prestige of Lime Rock Parks Historic
> Festival, there are cars coming from all over the world just to race 
> here:
> Australia, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland,
> Antigua  even New Jersey!
>  There are 12 race groups, from pre-war to the 50s- and 60s-eras, plus 
> a
> tremendous group of F2, Formula Ford and Formula Junior open-wheelers 
> from
> the 60s and 70s. Fantastic...
>  There are two special race groups, too: a Jaguar-only field and an 
> MG-only
> group.
>  The Sunday in the Park Concours & Gathering of the Clubs will present 
> close
> to 600 cars parked on the race track for show, including special 
> Shelby and
> MG collections! The 200+ Concours entrants will pack the front 
> straight,
> while the Car Show and Gathering of the Clubs will cover the rest of 
> the
> track.
>  We also want to tell you that there are three very special racing 
> people
> coming to Historic Festival 29.
>  The Honored Guest is Bob Tullius, the former driver and team owner 
> (Group
> 44) who made Jaguar such a successful racing organization in the 70s, 
> 80s
> and 90s. Hes a friendly, approachable star, so keep your ears open for 
> the
> PA announcements advising when hell be free to talk to the fans.
>  The Honored Collector is Dr. Fred Simeone, whose Simeone Foundation 
> Auto
> Museum in Philadelphia is considered one of the finest with respect to
> significant race cars. Hes bringing four outstanding vehicles: a D 
> Type
> Jaguar, third at Sebring, to enhance Jaguar's presence at our event; a 
> K3
> MG, the best-placed of all MGs at Le Mans; the DBR1 Aston Martin World
> Champion Sports Racer, one of the best looking racing cars ever built; 
> and
> an Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 with a fabulous body by the house of Castagna,
> absolutely unrestored (like the K3), and also like the MG, in a true 
> state
> of grace.
>
> Clark
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 08:15:02 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:15:02 +0200
Subject: [Fot] COUNT DOWN TO KASTNER CUP @ THE Eifelrace
In-Reply-To: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
References: <OFD0D24911.D6EE9BB9-ONC12578E9.0061A52E@LocalDomain>
Message-ID: <006401cc5b55$ba9841b0$2fc8c510$@com>

Here are some nice shots of the DTM touring car races of the early 90ties on
the Nordschleife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsqBRyPs1HU&feature=related

Cheers
Chris


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 08:49:56 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:49:56 +0200
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com>
	<002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com>
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <006901cc5b5a$9c26bb30$d4743190$@com>

This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
Good to know that.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
An: MadMarx
Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Have you found this webpage:

http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20


Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
To: 'Friends of Triumph'
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Hi Guys,

I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late that
one wheel is a 5.5" one.
He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.

Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?

Cheers
Chris
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From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon Aug 15 09:03:41 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:03:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
References: <15a78.250cb013.3b72c0c1@aol.com><002e01cc573f$81847700$848d6500$@com><CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A53595AECF6@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
	<006901cc5b5a$9c26bb30$d4743190$@com>
Message-ID: <564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close.
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
> Good to know that.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
> An: MadMarx
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Have you found this webpage:
>
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MadMarx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph'
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that
> one wheel is a 5.5" one.
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From REK46 at aol.com  Mon Aug 15 09:06:56 2011
From: REK46 at aol.com (REK46 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:06:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] new member
Message-ID: <cf88c.5beeead8.3b7a9010@aol.com>

Last week I nominated Chris Crisenberry, and there were plenty of 'seconds' 
 so I assume he is voted in...How does he start to get emails? He has not 
seen  any yet....his  email is "  _spitracer1296 at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:spitracer1296 at yahoo.com)    "...rick


From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 09:25:43 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:25:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
Message-ID: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>

Don't know if you have heard.  FYI.  

 

Craig

 

It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 

John (JR) Herrera.  His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the 

arrangements.  As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be 

determined.  I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on.  May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.


From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Aug 15 09:41:09 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:41:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>
References: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>
Message-ID: <36BA8103-01D7-4EA6-A975-79B3FAF15A18@me.com>

I will miss John.  I know his health was lousy, and he struggled to make his way around the paddock, but he had a great sense of humor, knew his Triumphs, and always helped out with parts and tools in the paddock.  He had a way with the written word and his comments will be sorely missed.  I'll remember him in that pale blue TR3 or in his old pick-up truck.  A life cut too short, for sure.  We'll have to have a ceremony/toast for him at the Turkey Bowl this year.


On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Craig wrote:

Don't know if you have heard.  FYI.  



Craig



It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 

John (JR) Herrera.  His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the 

arrangements.  As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be 

determined.  I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on.  May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.
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From wensley_tr at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 09:46:12 2011
From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:46:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <36BA8103-01D7-4EA6-A975-79B3FAF15A18@me.com>
References: <004e01cc5b5f$9c8d52f0$d5a7f8d0$@net>
	<36BA8103-01D7-4EA6-A975-79B3FAF15A18@me.com>
Message-ID: <005601cc5b62$7c8ed5c0$75ac8140$@net>

Sounds good to me 

 

Craig

 

From: Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:41 AM
To: Craig
Cc: FOT (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend

 

I will miss John.  I know his health was lousy, and he struggled to make his
way around the paddock, but he had a great sense of humor, knew his
Triumphs, and always helped out with parts and tools in the paddock.  He had
a way with the written word and his comments will be sorely missed.  I'll
remember him in that pale blue TR3 or in his old pick-up truck.  A life cut
too short, for sure.  We'll have to have a ceremony/toast for him at the
Turkey Bowl this year.

 

 

On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Craig wrote:

 

Don't know if you have heard.  FYI.  



Craig



It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 

John (JR) Herrera.  His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the 

arrangements.  As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be 

determined.  I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on.  May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.
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From harmug at us.ibm.com  Mon Aug 15 10:27:43 2011
From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:27:43 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 57, Issue 20
In-Reply-To: <mailman.33711.1313422909.3301.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <OF1659E526.786DBE70-ON852578ED.0059C620-852578ED.005A6E6D@us.ibm.com>

Bob Tulius at Limerock Labor day weekend.

As an example of the increasing prestige of Lime Rock Park's Historic
Festival, there are cars coming from all over the world just to race here:
Australia, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland,
Antigua  even New Jersey!

I'll be there with the #7 , 63 Spitfire, towing all the way from
Poughkeepsie, NY (40 minutes).
 Someone has to stand up to the MGs.

mike

63 spit
70 GT6+
72 MK4
77 1500
2 (80) 1500s

plus assorted running cars

G. Michael Harmuth


From sgroh1 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 11:11:15 2011
From: sgroh1 at comcast.net (sgroh1 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:11:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <005601cc5b62$7c8ed5c0$75ac8140$@net>
Message-ID: <327522076.183202.1313428275559.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Damn.B  John was always ready to lend his knowledge and experience, whether
trackside or not.B  One of the most valuable lessons he taught me was patience
in the pits, and keeping a humorous attitude in the paddock.B  I will miss him
greatly, but I'll have a navigatorB beside me at every race.B  Rest in Peace,
John.

Steve



----- Original Message -----


From: "Craig" <wensley_tr at comcast.net>
To: "Scott Janzen" <sjanzen at me.com>
Cc: "FOT (E-mail)" <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:46:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend

Sounds good to me

B 

Craig

B 

From: Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:41 AM
To: Craig
Cc: FOT (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend

B 

I will miss John. B I know his health was lousy, and he struggled to make his
way around the paddock, but he had a great sense of humor, knew his
Triumphs, and always helped out with parts and tools in the paddock. B He had
a way with the written word and his comments will be sorely missed. B I'll
remember him in that pale blue TR3 or in his old pick-up truck. B A life cut
too short, for sure. B We'll have to have a ceremony/toast for him at the
Turkey Bowl this year.

B 

B 

On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Craig wrote:

B 

Don't know if you have heard. B FYI. B 



Craig



It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of

John (JR) Herrera. B His brother Frank (Tico) will be handling the

arrangements. B As of now, I know that JR will be cremated and that

Tico will arrange a memorial service at a place and time yet to be

determined. B I will let everyone know as soon as I know.

JR was a dear friend and one of the original M-D TRA members.

He will be missed by many, including the hundreds of people he befriended on
the internet forums that he hung-out on. B May his soul rest in peace and
hopefully at some vintage races up in the sky.
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From Catpusher at aol.com  Mon Aug 15 14:18:53 2011
From: Catpusher at aol.com (Catpusher at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:18:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Back to Laguna
Message-ID: <1585d.5ddb4002.3b7ad92d@aol.com>

FOT,
 
We hope to see some of you at Laguna this week.
 
We were sent this link from the Kastner Cup event:
 
_http://laprecord.com/Part-355-2011%20KK1/Pt-Index.htm_ 
(http://laprecord.com/Part-355-2011%20KK1/Pt-Index.htm) 


TR Regards,
 
Hardy & Ellie


From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 14:49:18 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:49:18 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Passing of another Triumph friend
In-Reply-To: <327522076.183202.1313428275559.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <327522076.183202.1313428275559.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2DA6BDFF-0E91-4AA5-92E1-6FCA849E11FA@gmail.com>

Chris Lawrence, 78, creator of the 1962 Morgan Plus 4 LeMans class winner
(from which the mighty factory Plus 4 Super Sports model was designed), died
Saturday.  Proprietor of Lawrence Tune, he also designed the Abarth-beating
Deep Sanderson, the stillborn Monica grand touring car, and the recent Morgan
Aero 8.

The guy knew a thing or two about TR engines and suspension design  He
invented the Lawrence link suspension to get around the flaws inherent in the
VW beetle front suspension he had previously used on his Formula Junior racer,
allowing camber recovery and no change in roll center, putting him ahead of
Lotus 18s on occasion.

A bit more here: http://www.lawrence-tune.co.uk/

Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red


From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Aug 15 15:04:17 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:04:17 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
Message-ID: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods. 

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex


From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Aug 15 15:22:39 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:22:39 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>

These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery and the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.

Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you over-stretch one!

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods. 

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Mon Aug 15 15:21:54 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:21:54 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DCFB@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Find the markings on the top of the rod bolts and call Carrillo's tech
people.  Actually, hang on a sec....

Here...

http://www.cp-carrillo.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=rGOOtq6Rn%2fY%3d&ta
bid=76

I'd torque to the value set in the chart, not the stock number.
Carrillo told me the bolts are "good for the life of the rod" - but not
if you over-torque them, I'd imagine.

I just had to answer this question on the Carrillo rods in my Spit and
found this on their web site.  Find the markings on the bolt heads and
this chart will tell you the torque.

You might want to ask someone more savvy than I, but I wonder whether
you might want to be sure that your rods were last reconditioned with
the bolts torqued at the same value.

Scott B.



-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:04 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and
the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Aug 15 15:31:15 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:31:15 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
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Thank you Scott !

Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which is
similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not so
slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPs lube which is the
slipperiest stuff in circulation).

I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.

In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the 3/8
WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.

Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?

Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
Thank you !

Cheers

Alex



De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
Envoyi : lundi 15 ao{t 2011 23:23
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing



These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on
them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery
and the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.



Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you
over-stretch one!



On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:



Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Mon Aug 15 15:31:19 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:31:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
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Typically Carillo rods have the bolts torque based on stretch. At least in
Spitfires that's the way it is. Had to buy another gadget but all went well
after a little sweat and nerves. I suggest you contact Carillo, their tech
guys are real helpful and there's probably no better resource for your
question. I bought the stretch gauge at Summit Racing. I can send a picture
if you need and probably their part number.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

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Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods. 

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From sjanzen at me.com  Mon Aug 15 15:42:28 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott janzen)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:42:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
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References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com>
	<006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch>
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Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch gauge,
however.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:

> Thank you Scott !
>
> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which is
similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not so
slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is the
slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>
> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>
> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the 3/8
WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>
> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>
> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
> Thank you !
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
> C : Alexandre Camoletti
> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>
>
>
> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on
them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery and
the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>
>
>
> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you
over-stretch one!
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>
>
>
> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>
> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>
> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>
> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>
> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Mon Aug 15 15:52:01 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:52:01 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DCFB@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch>
	<3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DCFB@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
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Thank you Barr! Yes this is the sheet that came with the (new) set and where
I came with the max figure  of 40lbs.
So I will stick to that (and maybe purchase the stretch gauge).
Cheers!
Alex

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Barr, Scott [mailto:sbarr at McCarty-Law.com]
Envoyi : lundi 15 ao{t 2011 23:22
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : RE: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Find the markings on the top of the rod bolts and call Carrillo's tech
people.  Actually, hang on a sec....

Here...

http://www.cp-carrillo.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=rGOOtq6Rn%2fY%3d&ta
bid=76

I'd torque to the value set in the chart, not the stock number.
Carrillo told me the bolts are "good for the life of the rod" - but not if
you over-torque them, I'd imagine.

I just had to answer this question on the Carrillo rods in my Spit and found
this on their web site.  Find the markings on the bolt heads and this chart
will tell you the torque.

You might want to ask someone more savvy than I, but I wonder whether you
might want to be sure that your rods were last reconditioned with the bolts
torqued at the same value.

Scott B.



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Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:04 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.

The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.

While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.

So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?

Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!

Cheers

Alex
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 15:56:21 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:56:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
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Can't stretch be determined with calipers, using before and after
measurements?
Duncan

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Scott janzen wrote:

> Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
> over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch
gauge,
> however.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Scott !
>>
>> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which
is
> similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not
so
> slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is
the
> slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>>
>> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>>
>> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the
3/8
> WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>>
>> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>>
>> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
>> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
>> C : Alexandre Camoletti
>> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
>> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>>
>>
>>
>> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
> material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
> required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
> about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
> instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use
on
> them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
> lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery
and
> the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
> indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if
you
> over-stretch one!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>>
>> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and
the
>> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>>
>> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>>
>> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>>
>> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 15:57:26 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:57:26 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch><6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com><006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch><109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com>
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My rods have ARP bolts and I torque them up with 45 (3/8"). I habe a table chart for each bolt and do measue each bolt after usage.
Non of the bolts were ever replaced as the bolt length did not change so far.
Cheers
Chris
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From: Scott janzen <sjanzen at me.com>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:42:28 
To: Alexandre Camoletti<ac at camoletti.ch>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net<fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch gauge,
however.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:

> Thank you Scott !
>
> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which is
similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not so
slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is the
slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>
> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>
> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the 3/8
WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>
> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>
> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
> Thank you !
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
> C : Alexandre Camoletti
> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>
>
>
> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use on
them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery and
the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>
>
>
> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if you
over-stretch one!
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>
>
>
> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>
> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and the
> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>
> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>
> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>
> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 16:02:12 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:02:12 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
In-Reply-To: <2E5273E0-CE99-4631-89E1-8A20D05C07B2@gmail.com>
References: <005201cc5b8e$e6191970$b24b4c50$@camoletti.ch><6DEDB389-F0C7-4B95-B553-CAD19D7EC31F@me.com><006901cc5b92$aac93e50$005bbaf0$@camoletti.ch><109AF871-4475-46B4-A7FC-780B59FFA4DA@me.com><2E5273E0-CE99-4631-89E1-8A20D05C07B2@gmail.com>
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Yes!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>
Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:56:21 
To: fot<fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing

Can't stretch be determined with calipers, using before and after
measurements?
Duncan

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Scott janzen wrote:

> Carrillo told me they could be re-used 'infinitely' if they were not
> over-torqued.  The only way to know if they have been is with a stretch
gauge,
> however.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Scott !
>>
>> Indeed the rods came with the Loctite heavy duty anti seize paste (which
is
> similar in feel to the Permatex anti-seize, but darker in colour) and not
so
> slippery (certainly less than oil and even more than ARPbs lube which is
the
> slipperiest stuff in circulation).
>>
>> I do not have a stretch gauge, but this would be ideal of course.
>>
>> In absence of gauge, Carrillo recommends torqueing to a max of 40lbs the
3/8
> WMC (H11) bolts, such as the ones on TR4 rods.
>>
>> Does the torque of these bolts need to be checked from time to time?
>>
>> Can these bolts be reused/torqued several times?
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> De : Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen at me.com]
>> EnvoyC) : lundi 15 aoC;t 2011 23:23
>> C : Alexandre Camoletti
>> Cc : fot at autox.team.net
>> Objet : Re: [Fot] Carrillo TR3-4 rods torquing
>>
>>
>>
>> These bolts are typically a much smaller cross-section, high strength
> material relative to stock bolts (to keep the rotating weight down) and the
> required torque is lower.  The bolts on the Carillo rods on my GT6 get only
> about 25 lb of torque - probably smaller ones than on your TR4.  Read the
> instructions carefully - Carrillo specifies what type of lubricant to use
on
> them at a certain torque (I think some sort of loctite).  I once used ARP
> lube, thinking it was interchangeable.  The ARP lube is much more slippery
and
> the bolts were over-torqued.  You might try using a bolt stretch dial
> indicator instead of tightening them to a torque setting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why is this important?  Those fancy little bolts cost about $30 each if
you
> over-stretch one!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Amici ! Currently building a TR3/4 engine with Carrillo rods.
>>
>> The set came with the stock Carrillo bolts (called by them WMC/H11) and
the
>> tech sheet says they must be torqued max 40lbs.
>>
>> While the stock rods and bolts usually are torqued at 60 lbs.
>>
>> So should I torque the Carrillos at 40 or 60 lbs then ?
>>
>> Amici, thank you for your very valuable input (as always)!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Alex
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
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From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Mon Aug 15 17:32:04 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation
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Chuck, I am running a Crane system on a TR6 and using their coil (LX 91) and
bypassing the resistor wire.  i don't have a lot of time on it yet but so far
everything seems to be working great.  I read somewhere and it sounded very
reasonable at the time that if you run a hot coil with the resistor wire, then
you get no benefit from the hot coil.  I have two TR6s, one street and one
otherwise, and neither uses the resistor wire.  Jim
________________________________
From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
<triosan at gmail.com>
To: Friends <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, August 13,
2011 9:36:53 PM
Subject: [Fot] Coil recommendation

I have a Pertronix
distributor in the TR6 race car with an Ignitor II
electronics.  I do not have
a ballast resistor.  This worked well in
combination with a Crane CCD box.  I
had some issues that lead me to believe
the Crane was not working properly so
I removed it.  the coil is a Lucas 1.5
ohm liquid filled model.  I ran a
couple of sessions last year with no
problems, then had the distributor move
to way to advance during a run [nut
that held it not tight].  Next session I
burned a valve -- this was all
early ast year.  I finally got the car back on
the track Friday.  The first
session I had the ignition way too retarded so it
had a mid-range stumble
and did not everr make good revs.  Abut 15 minutes
into the session the car
died.  After aflat toe, I did a lot of looking,
determined the fuel system
was fine and the ignition was too retarded.  Fixed
that befre the next
session.  In that session the car ran really strong -- for
two laps and then
it died.  Now I knew it was an ignition issue, so the first
thing I did
after the flat tow back was to check the coil.  It was not
functioning so I
replaced it [not thinking as to why it died, or at that point
checking how
hot it was].  Next session with the new [old] coil had the same
results.
This time I checked the coil and it was way ho.  I obviously should
have had
a ballast in this system.  All of this happened at Portland.  Car
died in
the same place each time -- just coming onto the strraight out of the
chicane.  Alsways had enough power left to coast up the berm and behind the
wall so as to not hold up the sessions.  The tow guys kidded that after 3
tows
in a day they owned the car.

So now I am ready get a new coil.  Does anyone
have experience with an
Ignitor II and if so, have you run it with a 3 ohm
coil and no ballast?  Am
thinking of getting the 60000 volt Pertronix
non-liquid filled coil, but no
sure what works best and am looking for
advice.  I have asked Pertronix tech
support also, but will not get there
answer for a  couple of days.

Thanks.

-- 
Chuck Arnold
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From m-syork at comcast.net  Mon Aug 15 20:56:33 2011
From: m-syork at comcast.net (Mark York)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>
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	<564E115F4CFA4A6FB4FFB5D2756F9291@Charly>
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Charly
These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with
Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:04 AM
To: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close.
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
> Good to know that.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
> An: MadMarx
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Have you found this webpage:
>
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MadMarx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph'
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that
> one wheel is a 5.5" one.
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 15 23:37:07 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:37:07 +0000
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
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How much would be way too much?

Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mark York" <m-syork at comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:33 
To: 'Charly Mitchel'<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>; 'MadMarx'<tr4racing at googlemail.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Charly
These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with
Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:04 AM
To: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close.
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident.
> Good to know that.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42
> An: MadMarx
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Have you found this webpage:
>
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of MadMarx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph'
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that
> one wheel is a 5.5" one.
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Aug 16 08:25:03 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:25:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Mark York wrote:

> Charly
> These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with
> Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting.
> Mark

If the wheels are all as good as the one depicted and they include the 
American Racing center cap, then they are def. worth some money. 
Center caps are scarce as hens' teeth.

I'm just saying.

I wouldn't buy that set for my race car, though.

Also note that the one pictured is a 5.5" rim. The 5.5" rim has a rib 
where the spokes connect to the outer rim, the 6.0" is flat there.

regards,
rml
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From m-syork at comcast.net  Tue Aug 16 11:15:21 2011
From: m-syork at comcast.net (m-syork at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:15:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
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I had a set of ARE LeMans wheels on a TR4A that I owned long ago and was curious to see what the cost of a set would be for a TR4 I currently own. 
For a "restored" set of 5.5" or 6" x 15"with 4 x 4.5 bolt pattern I was quoted $1200. The price did not include the lug nuts which are shouldered and can be difficult to find. 
I ended up buying a set of Panasports from Spruell Motorsports in Atlanta for around $800. 
I also remember the LeMans wheel needing spacers on the front to avoid grinding the inside of the wheel. 
The quote I got was about 8 months ago 
But I do like the looks of the LeMans wheel. 
Regards 
Mark 

----- Original Message -----
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com 
To: "Mark York" <m-syork at comcast.net>, "Charly Mitchel" <charly at mitchelplumbing.com>, fot at autox.team.net 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:37:07 PM 
Subject: AW: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 

How much would be way too much? 

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-----Original Message----- 
From: "Mark York" <m-syork at comcast.net> 
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:33 
To: 'Charly Mitchel'<charly at mitchelplumbing.com>; 'MadMarx'<tr4racing at googlemail.com>; <fot at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 

Charly 
These guys wanted way too much for a set of wheels. I ended up with 
Panasports which cost about $80/wheel less than what they were quoting. 
Mark 

-----Original Message----- 
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
Behalf Of Charly Mitchel 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:04 AM 
To: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 

Interesting, these guys are just down the street from me, well not really, 
but 125 miles seems pretty close. 
Charly Mitchel 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing at googlemail.com> 
To: <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 


> This a great address for myself if I smash a wheel by accident. 
> Good to know that. 
> 
> Cheers 
> Chris 
> 
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- 
> Von: Kramer, Robert [mailto:RKramer at rdoequipment.com] 
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 16:42 
> An: MadMarx 
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 
> 
> Have you found this webpage: 
> 
> http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=20 
> 
> 
> Bob Kramer 
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager 
> RDO Equipment Company 
> 16415 N. IH 35 Pflugerville, TX 78660 
> 512-687-7422 Office 
> 512-657-8526 Cell 
> 
> 
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things 
> turn 
> out. ~John Wooden 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf Of MadMarx 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 AM 
> To: 'Friends of Triumph' 
> Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15" 
> 
> Hi Guys, 
> 
> I have a friend who bought a set of these wheels but found out too late 
> that 
> one wheel is a 5.5" one. 
> He needs a 6" wheel and 16 nuts to mount them on a TR4. 
> 
> Does anyone have an idea or a wheel? 
> 
> Cheers 
> Chris 
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug 16 13:19:37 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:19:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
Message-ID: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>

There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
computer.... in relative isolation.

TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES

9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.

Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.

Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and more.

How do you deal with a guy like this?

I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine core cheap.

Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of Roberts
Johns who took me to this
mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....

Joe A.


From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Aug 16 13:36:59 2011
From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:36:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
In-Reply-To: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
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Message-ID: <00a701cc5c4b$dd83d990$988b8cb0$@rr.com>

Does he have Lucas electrics in his house? (okay, I couldn't resist!)

Have him mark out an LZ and fly in with a single rotor......................

Russ Moore

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of n197tr4 at cs.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:20 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----

There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
computer.... in relative isolation.

TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES

9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.

Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.

Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and more.

How do you deal with a guy like this?

I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine core cheap.

Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of Roberts
Johns who took me to this
mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....

Joe A.
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From jason at multivintage.com  Tue Aug 16 14:36:39 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:36:39 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
In-Reply-To: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:19 PM, <n197tr4 at cs.com> wrote
"How do you deal with a guy like this?"
Its quite simple, If you see something you like in this mysterious wonderful
place, Ask him How Much it is?
If the price seems right... pull the Cash out of your pocket and buy it from
him.
If the price seems to high... offer him less, (the amount you are willing to
pay)
The fact that he is isolated should actually work in your favor. The
important thing to remember in this situation is that CASH TALKS.
My Professional Opinion
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
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From Lunkercars at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 16 15:09:18 2011
From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:09:18 -0600
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
In-Reply-To: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4CBC8A25-56A0-4BCE-8FBB-CCBE0776A4AF@earthlink.net>

I know exactly how to deal with the type. In fact it sounds like kin  
to the guy that started me with my TR stock... 9000' up the side of a  
New Mexico mountain to liberate a total of 14 cars/parts. Took Connie  
and I 4 trips, 3 trailers [only the single axle "shuttle" trailer  
would make it up], 2 four wheel drives [plus his Scout "mountain  
tug"] and about 1000 miles to get it done. And worth all that, every  
penny and every skinned knuckle. Give me a proximity and I'll be on  
my way [no address needed for this kind of guy].
Let me know - my drool is already becoming a problem.

Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM
On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:19 PM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
> computer.... in relative isolation.
>
> TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES
>
> 9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.
>
> Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.
>
> Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and  
> more.
>
> How do you deal with a guy like this?
>
> I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine  
> core cheap.
>
> Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of  
> Roberts
> Johns who took me to this
> mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....
>
> Joe A.
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Tue Aug 16 15:35:19 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:35:19 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----
In-Reply-To: <4CBC8A25-56A0-4BCE-8FBB-CCBE0776A4AF@earthlink.net>
References: <8CE2A60927B91B9-29C8-9DC5@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com>
	<4CBC8A25-56A0-4BCE-8FBB-CCBE0776A4AF@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD34@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Dunno how well this will work, but I just uploaded to Facebook a photo
of Chris Mills' stash here just north of Appleton WI (circa 1998, photo
credit to Kent Howard, erstwhile pilot of Little Red Riding Hard).  Gone
now, in the name of progress.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1070084715228.2010192.131940902
5&saved#!/photo.php?fbid=1912850503846&set=a.1070084715228.2010192.13194
09025&type=1&theater

Chris still has much of the mechanical bits and other portable parts.
These were, at the time of this photo, mostly the stripped and rusting
hulks.  He's got barns full of good stuff, but you can't reach him to
buy anything...

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:09 PM
To: n197tr4 at cs.com
Cc: fot friends
Subject: Re: [Fot] MYSTERY TINNERY OF BRITISH CARS-----

I know exactly how to deal with the type. In fact it sounds like kin
to the guy that started me with my TR stock... 9000' up the side of a
New Mexico mountain to liberate a total of 14 cars/parts. Took Connie
and I 4 trips, 3 trailers [only the single axle "shuttle" trailer
would make it up], 2 four wheel drives [plus his Scout "mountain
tug"] and about 1000 miles to get it done. And worth all that, every
penny and every skinned knuckle. Give me a proximity and I'll be on
my way [no address needed for this kind of guy].
Let me know - my drool is already becoming a problem.

Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM
On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:19 PM, n197tr4 at cs.com wrote:

> There is a guy in the mountains of Colorado with no electricity and no
> computer.... in relative isolation.
>
> TRIUMPHS and TRIUMPH parts.   TR3-TR7.....GT6....SPITFIRES
>
> 9.000 feet on a mountain dirt road.
>
> Wants to sell stuff, but is eccentric 37 year old.
>
> Also MGS, A LOTUS EUROPA, large mouth Berkely, Alfa, PORSCHES, and
> more.
>
> How do you deal with a guy like this?
>
> I have little interest unless I would be able pick up an engine
> core cheap.
>
> Well, I thought I would share with theFOT through the courtesy of
> Roberts
> Johns who took me to this
> mysterious SHANGRI LA of TRIUMPHS....
>
> Joe A.
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 16 21:10:37 2011
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:10:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of four 
delivered.
rotawheels.com

nfi
Dennis


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Tue Aug 16 23:12:25 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:12:25 +0000
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
Message-ID: <mailman.38.1638252564.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

I heard nothing good about rota.
They are not Nordschleife safe.
Few tested them and they got cracks at the bolt area.

Cheers
Chris

------Originalnachricht------
Von: Dennis DeLap
An: m-syork at comcast.net
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
Gesendet: 17. Aug. 2011 05:10



ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of four 
delivered.
rotawheels.com

nfi
Dennis


Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone


From deweerdm at rogers.com  Wed Aug 17 02:35:44 2011
From: deweerdm at rogers.com (MIKE DEWEERD)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 01:35:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Gear ratios
Message-ID: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Amici 
 I have a TR4A rear end here that seems to spin in the 2-1 range?? When one
wheel is held and the driveshaft is turned 2 times the wheel has made 1 full
turn.Going to pull the cover off tonight to look further into this.I don't
know of a ratio this low........any one??? it's a later model...guessing
1967.(parts car)ThanksMike Deweerd  TR4 #77


From goodparts at verizon.net  Wed Aug 17 05:03:33 2011
From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:03:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Gear ratios
In-Reply-To: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>

Mike,

If you are turning one wheel you will need to multiply the driveshaft turns 
by two to get the diff ratio.  2.05 turns of the driveshaft would equal a 
4.1 diff ratio.  To get more accurate you can turn one wheel 10 turns then 
divide the driveshaft turns by 5.

Richard Good
--------------------------------------------------
From: "MIKE DEWEERD" <deweerdm at rogers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:35 AM
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Gear ratios

> Amici
> I have a TR4A rear end here that seems to spin in the 2-1 range?? When one
> wheel is held and the driveshaft is turned 2 times the wheel has made 1 
> full
> turn.Going to pull the cover off tonight to look further into this.I don't
> know of a ratio this low........any one??? it's a later model...guessing
> 1967.(parts car)ThanksMike Deweerd  TR4 #77
> _______________________________________________


From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Wed Aug 17 06:16:27 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:16:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>

I knew I had seen some reproduction Libre wheels. VTO sells them in a 15x6
with a +3 offset. Might be a good racing option.

http://www.vtowheels.com/


Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Dennis DeLap
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:11 PM
To: m-syork at comcast.net; tr4racing at googlemail.com
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of
four delivered.
rotawheels.com

nfi
Dennis
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From jhd11 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 17 07:24:04 2011
From: jhd11 at hotmail.com (Joe Henry)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:24:04 +0000
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
Message-ID: <COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>

     VTO wheels can be purchased through Acme Speed Shop in S.C.  I am looking
at some for our TR6. Call Hap Waldrop.

Joe Downer
RiffRAF Racing TR6
Charlotte, N.C.

> From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com
> To: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net; m-syork at comcast.net;
tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:16:27 -0500
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> I knew I had seen some reproduction Libre wheels. VTO sells them in a 15x6
> with a +3 offset. Might be a good racing option.
>
> http://www.vtowheels.com/
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things
turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf
> Of Dennis DeLap
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:11 PM
> To: m-syork at comcast.net; tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of
> four delivered.
> rotawheels.com
>
> nfi
> Dennis
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 17 09:12:28 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:12:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"  now WHEEL SPACERS AVAILABLE
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CE2B07362AD881-72C-6005@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com>

Speaking of wheels....

We just ran another 100 wheel spacers and will provide at FOT prices if any
one wants to do some tweaking on track.and clearance.

Joe






-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Henry <jhd11 at hotmail.com>
To: rkramer <rkramer at rdoequipment.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 17, 2011 8:30 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"


     VTO wheels can be purchased through Acme Speed Shop in S.C.  I am
looking
at some for our TR6. Call Hap Waldrop.

Joe Downer
RiffRAF Racing TR6
Charlotte, N.C.

> From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com
> To: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net; m-syork at comcast.net;
tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:16:27 -0500
> CC: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> I knew I had seen some reproduction Libre wheels. VTO sells them in a 15x6
> with a +3 offset. Might be a good racing option.
>
> http://www.vtowheels.com/
>
>
> Bob Kramer
> Southern Construction Inventory Manager
> RDO Equipment Company
> 16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
> 512-687-7422 Office
> 512-657-8526 Cell
>
>
> Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things
turn
> out. ~John Wooden
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf
> Of Dennis DeLap
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:11 PM
> To: m-syork at comcast.net; tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
>
> ROTA now has a 15"x 6" RB wheel (a panasport knock off) - $550 for a set of
> four delivered.
> rotawheels.com
>
> nfi
> Dennis
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Wed Aug 17 09:20:35 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:20:35 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Cape Coventry on a wing & a prayer
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds7665A2EF2E398FCBDAECBB7280@phx.gbl>

For those of you who weren't aware, John made it to Charleston in his big
Healy re: his sponsored Cancer drive.
He's now (Wed.) on I-40 heading to Albq. Low oil pressure, (19# @ 3500 &
leaking copious amounts of it) and wind burnt to beat the band...
Keep a good thought for him this leg of the return trip, it can't be pleasant
-

K Lynch


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Aug 17 12:37:00 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:37:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Length of Spitfire Pushrods?
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD5B@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I'm looking for a recommendation for the length of pushrods for a 1500
Spitfire as a starting place.  The head thickness is 2.906.  I'm
ordering a  set of lifters and tubular pushrods from Richard Good and
just need to tell him what length to make the pushrods.  I'm assuming I
should err on the long side, right?



Scott


From riverside at southslope.net  Wed Aug 17 12:58:35 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:58:35 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances
In-Reply-To: <DF7D804C-63A5-4CFF-B99C-5E5259232E97@charter.net>
References: <766885167.9134.1313078201920.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4E442B38.7080402@charter.net>
	<DF7D804C-63A5-4CFF-B99C-5E5259232E97@charter.net>
Message-ID: <03B55BF604B342088883458DF1798B72@rileyPC>

I have had poor luck measuring the bearing clearance across the parting line
with plastigage - a
dimension as important as the one 90 degrees from the parting line.   For 
that
reason I prefer dial bore gauges and micrometers.

art de armond

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jerry Barr
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:30 PM
To: Glenn Franco
Cc: Friends of triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Proceedure for checking rod bearing clearances

I assemble the bearing caps on the block then use a dial bore gage or inside
micrometer to determine the size and roundness of the bearing bore. Then
install the bearings and retorque the caps and check the inside diameter of
the bearings for size and roundness. Or just use plastigage.
On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Glenn Franco wrote:

> I have been using platigauge for years. Works great. Just built an engine
last month and have two in process right now.
> I check out of round of the journals with a digital mic, but bearing
clearances with platigauge on the mains and rods.
> Most of my engine builds have been street performance engines and I always
have my automotive machine shop grind and polish the crank.
> I'm old school and used to use an inside mike on the ID then check the
difference to the OD (PITA).
> Glenn
> On 8/11/2011 11:56 AM, toodamnfunky at comcast.net wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> I have the machinist that's doing the work check for round and determine
how to size the journals.
>>
>> I would just like to have a method that I can use to back check the
machinst and/or check clearances
>>
>> while the motor is in the car.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim G
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Aug 17 12:59:27 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:59:27 -0500
Subject: [Fot] On The Grid at Grattan
Message-ID: <CALCydYrmvdW14hQ8isUY+DusXjojaRU7EnROG4VDbt7yHMMddA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings all!
We will have 6 FOT'ers on the grid for Grattan Raceway in Michigan this
weekend and a few others working and spectating
Grattan is a great track for spectating and totally awesome for driving.
Friday practice, Saturday full day of qualifying and races, Sunday another
full day.
Great party Saturday nite and my cooler is always full.
Representing a variety of models come see:

Dennis DeLap, TVR 2200S
Bill Dentinger, TR3
Tony Drews, TR4
Ryan Murphy, TR4
Jason Ostrowski, GT6+
Bob Wismer, TR4

Everyone accept me (Group 8) will be in group 2
Plus I'm running in the Trans Am B Sedan Feature race.

Gone racing!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Aug 17 13:14:32 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:14:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Length of Spitfire Pushrods?
In-Reply-To: <4E4C11BB.1050806@dfn.com>
References: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD5B@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
	<4E4C11BB.1050806@dfn.com>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DD62@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I meant "long side" for the pushrods as ordered, so they could be cut
down after measuring.  Hard to lengthen the pushrods in a lathe.  Just
looking for the right length to start with...

Scott B.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Porter [mailto:mdporter at dfn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:09 PM
To: Barr, Scott
Subject: Re: [Fot] Length of Spitfire Pushrods?

On 8/17/2011 12:37 PM, Barr, Scott wrote:
> I'm assuming I
> should err on the long side, right?
>

Umm, no.  If you set the length to the long side, there's the
possibility of having them long enough that you can't get clearance even

with the adjusting screws backed out all the way, and then you burn
valves.


From WEmery7451 at aol.com  Wed Aug 17 20:35:56 2011
From: WEmery7451 at aol.com (WEmery7451 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:35:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] FW: Passing of a Triumph friend
Message-ID: <7bb47.7c437084.3b7dd48c@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/15/11 8:30:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
wensley_tr at comcast.net writes:

<<  It is with sadness that I pass along the news of the passing of 
 
 John (JR) Herrera.   >>

This is a shame.  John is the one who encouraged me to take my crude tools 
to Charles Town, West VA, to participate in a TRA Convention three years 
ago.  I had fabricated these tools myself years ago for working on my TR-3.
</HTML>


From ac at camoletti.ch  Thu Aug 18 05:53:49 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:53:49 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll
Message-ID: <00bc01cc5d9d$7f8c46d0$7ea4d470$@camoletti.ch>

Gentlemen, re: the lip seal story : I finally opted for the Greg Solows
Chrysler seal conversion with the machined original seal holder to accept
this split seal. The diameter of the crank remains the same as stock, simply
the grooves on the crank are weld filled and polished to make a flat surface
for the seal.

duly centralised (see pix) with AREs tool (added gasket paper total 1mm
thick to make for the machined new ID of holder) and holder pressed together
with specially made tool.

Will let you know how it works when engine will be running.

Cheers!

Alex



De : Alexandre Camoletti [mailto:ac at camoletti.ch]
Envoyi : mardi 12 octobre 2010 08:38
@ : 'J.C. Hassall'; adcronin at mi.rr.com
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : RE: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll



Hi Jim ! Called yesterday this seal specialised company in Geneva, but split
lip seals are not used in the industry sot hey could not help.

But they provided an interesting info: lip compression on the shaft must be
max 10 to 12 10th of mm (1.0 to 1.2 mm). Depending on the manufacturer, but
all are within this range the engineer explained.

This means that for a shaft at 63.5, seal with the uncompressed lip must be
62.5 max ID (range 62.3-62.5).

If with this seal of 62.5 free ID the shaft is bigger than 63.5 or 63.7 OD
max, then the lip will not seat on the shaft as designed and the oil film in
between will not work and make the seal. Leaks.

Yesterday I measured the Moss seal lip when assembled and it measures
exactly at 62.5. So this is correct for a 63.5 axle.

But we have to be aware that lip seals are designed to withstand a pressure
of 0.5 bar usually. Not much. So important to relieve oil pressure on the
seal by drilling the recommended holes. Maybe fit an oil splash control
washer if possible?

So I will go for the 63.6 journal grind (this is the up tolerance leaflet
mentions) and drill the two 10mm additional holes. Maybe shorten the spring
slightly.

Cheers!

Alexandre



De : J.C. Hassall [mailto:jhassall at blacksburg.net]
Envoyi : mardi 12 octobre 2010 02:45
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Objet : Re: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll now MURPHY'S TOOL



On 10/11/2010 3:26 AM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:

Thank you Jim ! Keep us posted !

We have a specialised company here in Geneva for industry lip seals and
bearings, interesting to see what they advise. I will certainly replace the
seal provided with the kit, as it looks dubious quality (no markings, no
brand), with one from a reputable company, possibly made from Viton or some
modern material, and with double lip.

Will keep the FOT posted on my findings.

Cheers!

Alex

Good luck Alex, and by all means please keep us posted.  If there's a better
seal out there, your discovery will be welcome by all of us who got burned.

thanks,

jim





De : J.C. Hassall [mailto:jhassall at blacksburg.net]
Envoyi : samedi 9 octobre 2010 04:17
@ : Alexandre Camoletti
Cc : fot at autox.team.net
Objet : Re: [Fot] Crank--Rear Main / Scroll now MURPHY'S TOOL



On 10/6/2010 2:17 AM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:

Question: All of you who got leaks with the 2.5'' grind drilled the
additional holes as per Moss'/Bastuck's damn instructions?

They propose/suggest to drill 2 additional holes 3/8'' to relieve pressure,
each side of the original hole in the main cap.

See drawing

Alex













Yup, I had mine drilled the same way.  And I have a reasonably good block
vent system, although I may go to an extractor system like Joe A recommends
if this go-around with the seal doesn't fix it.  If I were smart I'd trash
the crank and start over, but....

jim



--
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go





--
Jim Hassall
Blacksburg VA
'63 TR4 in autox preparation
99% finished, 90% to go

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From jaboruch at netzero.net  Thu Aug 18 19:26:09 2011
From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 01:26:09 GMT
Subject: [Fot] Pocono SCCA National
Message-ID: <20110818.212609.10699.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Raced at Pocono this past weekend at the SCCA double National.  Got 3rd  both
days, behind a BMW 325 and and a Miata.  Sunday we had heavy rain.  I was 2nd
for most of the rain race, but the Miata got me on the last lap.

On Saturday I was behind a flaming fast Austin Healey Sprite for the 1st
couple of laps.  The flames finally melted through his shoulder harness, which
went through into the trunk, and he realized something was wrong and he pulled
off.  Fire system did not work.  It had been in the car 20 years and was never
serviced.  Emergency services got the fire out and damage did not spread
beyond the boot.  Mostly it was the composite boot lid that melted.

A video is posted on You Tube at the following link.  Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_cA824CK_4


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From deruiterville at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 19 07:55:22 2011
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:55:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>

And Hap just announced he has the LeMans style wheels now in stock at 15x6 and
15x7 sizes, in addition to the Libre style that has been out for about a
year.

Randy


>
> VTO wheels can be purchased through Acme Speed Shop in S.C. I am looking
> at some for our TR6. Call Hap Waldrop.
>
> Joe Downer
> RiffRAF Racing TR6
> Charlotte, N.C.


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Fri Aug 19 08:08:00 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:08:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote:

> And Hap just announced he has the LeMans style wheels now in stock at 15x6 and
> 15x7 sizes,

Figures. I finally put together a full set of American Racing LeMans 
wheels... it only took 16 or 17 years to get the 6" set complete!! OTOH, I 
have a lot of "history" there.

It looks like the vtoperformance.com web site doesn't show the LeMans 
wheels yet. When they do, I'll probably buy a set. They're my FAV.

regards,
rml
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From deruiterville at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 19 08:50:00 2011
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:50:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, , <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	, , <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>, ,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>,
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY150-W55BA0ADB65D18E9DB6755FB92A0@phx.gbl>

Hap has a pic or maybe a computer rendering of their LeMans version posted at
the bottom of this page:
http://www.acmespeedshop.com/wheels.html


>
> It looks like the vtoperformance.com web site doesn't show the LeMans
> wheels yet. When they do, I'll probably buy a set. They're my FAV.


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri Aug 19 12:39:08 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:39:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 1500 Spitfire Head Thickness?
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDB6@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I've seen a couple of lists of cylinder head thicknesses, compression
ratios, etc. floating around for the 6-cylinder cars and (I think) the
TR3/4 motors.  Any chance there's something similar out there for the
Spitfires?



I've got a later Spitfire head (god knows what year, but it's got the
air injection ports) and I'm trying to figure out its original thickness
compared to the present 2.906" thickness, so I can determine what length
pushrods to order as a starting point.



Scott B.


From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Fri Aug 19 22:56:55 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:56:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
Message-ID: <1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I saw that there were some posts on racing altenators not too long ago. 
Sorry, 
I didn't save them but now have the need.  Are there any available
that are a 
pretty easy hook up for a 1974 TR6.  Need something light and just
enough charge 
to keep the battery up.  Jim in Folsom, CA


From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sat Aug 20 21:33:01 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:33:01 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!
Message-ID: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl>

John made it back to Monterey tonight -

A gritty, gutsy example of sheer determination -

Syncharitmria !


KL


From dlhogye at comcast.net  Sat Aug 20 22:32:14 2011
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:32:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1917518838.456726.1313901134512.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Will we see John at Laguna tomorrow? 

----- Original Message -----
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To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:33:01 PM 
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer! 

John made it back to Monterey tonight - 

A gritty, gutsy example of sheer determination - 

Syncharitmria ! 


KL 
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From klynch_6 at msn.com  Sun Aug 21 10:11:33 2011
From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:11:33 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!
In-Reply-To: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl><1917518838.456726.1313901134512.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<1783430604-1313908588-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-642751010-@b14.c2.bise6.blackberry>
References: <BLU151-ds18CCB50ED8055F647DC215B72C0@phx.gbl><1917518838.456726.1313901134512.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <BLU151-ds125CE27C3FE69C34BCFF7AB72C0@phx.gbl>

He is on his way to Pebble...

Kevin
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  From: admin at lateralgimages.com<mailto:admin at lateralgimages.com>
  To: davehogye<mailto:dlhogye at comcast.net> ;
fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net> ; KEVIN
LYNCH<mailto:klynch_6 at msn.com>
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  Subject: Re: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!


  I saw him at the RM Auction tonight and he said he was coming to the track.
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  -----Original Message-----
  From: davehogye <dlhogye at comcast.net<mailto:dlhogye at comcast.net>>
  Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>
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  Subject: Re: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!

  Will we see John at Laguna tomorrow?

  ----- Original Message -----
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  To: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:33:01 PM
  Subject: [Fot] Drive away Cancer!

  John made it back to Monterey tonight -

  A gritty, gutsy example of sheer determination -

  Syncharitmria !


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From igofaster at att.net  Sun Aug 21 17:35:42 2011
From: igofaster at att.net (Bobby Whitehead)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:35:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
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	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
	<BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu>
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is it the 'classic' wheel you are referring to as LeMans style?

Bobby Whitehead




________________________________
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville at hotmail.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, August 19, 2011 9:08:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote:

> And Hap just announced he has the LeMans style wheels now in stock at 15x6 and
> 15x7 sizes,

Figures. I finally put together a full set of American Racing LeMans wheels... 
it only took 16 or 17 years to get the 6" set complete!! OTOH, I have a lot of 
"history" there.

It looks like the vtoperformance.com web site doesn't show the LeMans wheels 
yet. When they do, I'll probably buy a set. They're my FAV.

regards,
rml
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon Aug 22 06:35:32 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:35:32 +0200
Subject: [Fot] THE Eifelrace
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Message-ID: <001201cc60c7$fdabe0c0$f903a240$@com>

As preface to the comming event:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ244OYjYvE
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ244OYjYvE&feature=player_embedded>
&feature=player_embedded
 
Cheers
Chris


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Mon Aug 22 07:43:55 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:43:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
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	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl>
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Bobby Whitehead wrote:

> is it the 'classic' wheel you are referring to as LeMans style?

No. The VTO classis 8 is a minilite reproduction. American Racing sold an 
8 spoke and called it the Silverstone, but it looks completely different 
than the Minilite and the various repro / copy minilite wheels. The Retro 
4 is a repro of the "Libre". The latest one (not illustrated on the site 
yet) is a repro of the LeMans which IS illustrated here:

http://www.acmespeedshop.com/wheels.html

(down at the bottom of the page).

> Bobby Whitehead

I hope this is clear.

FWIW, I'm not sure that American Racing had the LeMans in 13", but I could 
be wrong on that. I know they had them in 15" 'cuz I have a dozen or so of 
those. :-)

Regards,
rml
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 07:56:55 2011
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:56:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
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	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
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Photo of an ARE Silverstone (pay no attention to the hand...):

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg which had a name of photo.jpeg]
Duncan
(Texas)
1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red


On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Bobby Whitehead wrote:
>
>> is it the 'classic' wheel you are referring to as LeMans style?
>
> No. The VTO classis 8 is a minilite reproduction. American Racing sold an 8
spoke and called it the Silverstone, but it looks completely different than
the Minilite and the various repro / copy minilite wheels. The Retro 4 is a
repro of the "Libre". The latest one (not illustrated on the site yet) is a
repro of the LeMans which IS illustrated here:
>
> http://www.acmespeedshop.com/wheels.html
>
> (down at the bottom of the page).
>
>> Bobby Whitehead
>
> I hope this is clear.
>
> FWIW, I'm not sure that American Racing had the LeMans in 13", but I could
be wrong on that. I know they had them in 15" 'cuz I have a dozen or so of
those. :-)
>
> Regards,
> rml
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Mon Aug 22 08:16:56 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:16:56 -0700
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <3F4823C4-4FEA-4848-A62C-B9B180841B63@gmail.com>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	, <CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl><BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu><1313969742.60512.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108220937360.18323@isis.mit.edu>
	<3F4823C4-4FEA-4848-A62C-B9B180841B63@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <357601cc60d6$265b3080$0301a8c0@randall>

> Photo of an ARE Silverstone (pay no attention to the hand...):
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg

Unfortunately, no photos through the list.  You'll need to put it on a web
site somewhere, and post a link.

But perhaps this is the same photo?

http://fwd4.me/09bf

-- Randall  


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Mon Aug 22 08:22:12 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:22:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
	<1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>

DB Electrical

www.dbelectrical.com

Look at the NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.

It's less than $75 to your door for a brand-new alternator.

To install it, you need an upper bracket (less than $20 or the scrap pile, 
your choice) and a couple of spacers (another $10 or less at the h/w 
store) and the proper sized belt.

Electrical hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from the 
ignition switch to excite the alternator.

I put one on my race car and I love it.

regards,
rml
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Mon Aug 22 08:25:53 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:25:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] ARE "Le Mans" - 6"x15"
In-Reply-To: <357601cc60d6$265b3080$0301a8c0@randall>
References: <1064385842.271626.1313514921129.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	, <1313550637.48009.YahooMailRC@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<CA511E7D22526C41A7423DF547825A5A5359A7273C@RDOEX2K7.rdoe.com>,
	<COL118-W1032F2A6067809F75E5114A9280@phx.gbl><BAY150-W517B5B27B9E153158ED63AB92A0@phx.gbl><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108191004580.32432@isis.mit.edu><1313969742.60512.YahooMailRC@web180815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108220937360.18323@isis.mit.edu>
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	<357601cc60d6$265b3080$0301a8c0@randall>
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Randall wrote:

>> Photo of an ARE Silverstone (pay no attention to the hand...):
>>
>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg
>
> Unfortunately, no photos through the list.  You'll need to put it on a web
> site somewhere, and post a link.
>
> But perhaps this is the same photo?
>
> http://fwd4.me/09bf

yes - that's the Silverstone.

Notice how the spokes are round-ish and don't have a spine (like the 
Panasport does).

> -- Randall

regards,
rml
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 22 08:36:13 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <940450982.482320.1314023773252.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Here's the link:
http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-4720-new-chevy-mini-alternator-denso-street-rod
-race-3-wire-and0212.aspx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: "sherry robyn" <sherryjimmy6116 at att.net>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:22:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Light weight altenator

DB Electrical

www.dbelectrical.com

Look at the NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.

It's less than $75 to your door for a brand-new alternator.

To install it, you need an upper bracket (less than $20 or the scrap pile,
your choice) and a couple of spacers (another $10 or less at the h/w
store) and the proper sized belt.

Electrical hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from the
ignition switch to excite the alternator.

I put one on my race car and I love it.

regards,
rml
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From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Mon Aug 22 08:50:46 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:50:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AA9E1AF10561421DA4EB4BBDEAFFF4E5@gdhs.local>

Look at "DB Electrical" Johnson City TN (dbelectrical.com) ey have a great
little 1-wire mini alternator...50 Amp....for $74.00.....works great on my
TR3A race car.....

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
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-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of sherry robyn
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:57 AM
To: Richard Good; MIKE DEWEERD; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator


I saw that there were some posts on racing altenators not too long ago.
Sorry,
I didn't save them but now have the need.  Are there any available that are
a
pretty easy hook up for a 1974 TR6.  Need something light and just enough
charge
to keep the battery up.  Jim in Folsom, CA
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From donmarshall at nefcom.net  Mon Aug 22 08:54:37 2011
From: donmarshall at nefcom.net (Don Marshall)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:54:37 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
	<1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <op.v0medbqiairs7i@don-pc.belkin>

Has anyone fit this particular alternator to a Spitfire?  Any issues?  Don


On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:22:12 -0400, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>  
wrote:

> DB Electrical
>
> www.dbelectrical.com
>
> Look at the NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.
>
> It's less than $75 to your door for a brand-new alternator.
>
> To install it, you need an upper bracket (less than $20 or the scrap  
> pile, your choice) and a couple of spacers (another $10 or less at the  
> h/w store) and the proper sized belt.
>
> Electrical hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from  
> the ignition switch to excite the alternator.
>
> I put one on my race car and I love it.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Mon Aug 22 08:55:06 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:55:06 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDFA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I'm going to have my stock flywheel lightened and am looking for
suggestions for a good weight for my Spitfire 1500 flywheel.



Scott B.


From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Mon Aug 22 09:12:30 2011
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:12:30 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
References: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDFA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
Message-ID: <6A4BD6B57C424885A54FA3911330A28F@Charly>

Have you thought of getting a lightened flywheel, they're much safer.
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/8080/Aluminum%20Flywheel%201500%20
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500


> I'm going to have my stock flywheel lightened and am looking for
> suggestions for a good weight for my Spitfire 1500 flywheel.
>
>
>
> Scott B.
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Mon Aug 22 09:15:51 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:15:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] [BULK]  Re:  Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
In-Reply-To: <6A4BD6B57C424885A54FA3911330A28F@Charly>
References: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDFA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>
	<6A4BD6B57C424885A54FA3911330A28F@Charly>
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C740230DDFC@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

Yes, I have thought about it, and have an aluminum flywheel for the good
1296 motor.  This was my (formerly) stock-ish 1500cc backup motor.  It's
gotten a few upgrades now and I'm just looking to shave a little weight
off the flywheel - nothing too extreme.  This motor won't be revved much
past stock in any case.  (and I've got a nice ballistic scatter blanket
:-)

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Charly Mitchel [mailto:charly at mitchelplumbing.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:13 AM
To: Barr, Scott; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [BULK] Re: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500
Importance: Low

Have you thought of getting a lightened flywheel, they're much safer.
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/8080/Aluminum%20Flywheel%201500%
20
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: [Fot] Flywheel Weight - Spit 1500


> I'm going to have my stock flywheel lightened and am looking for
> suggestions for a good weight for my Spitfire 1500 flywheel.
>
>
>
> Scott B.
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From pvucinic at netspace.net.au  Mon Aug 22 14:21:22 2011
From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:21:22 +1000
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACxbEgK3O79MiqnuYcYqj9HCgAAAEAAAAIOsVcHzRhdBpthSEoctXjUBAAAAAA==@netspace.net.au>

Dear lister's,

 

I am wondering whether any member shave fitted a quick release steering
wheel hub/mechanism to their TR7/8? If so, what brand etc. was used as I am
looking at this option as well. No use reinventing the wheel (pardon the
pun) if we don't have to!

 

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR-4

TR7 V8

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Aug 22 14:31:34 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:31:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel
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I have fitted one to my TR7 racer. I used a TR8 alloy wheel, made up an
aluminum plate to bolt to the back which in turn is bolted to the quick
release hub. The quick release nut was just welded onto the stock steering
wheel shaft. You can see the set up at the end of this video that I posted
after I got the car running the first time. The quick release hub and nut
are just the generic type you can buy, got mine on Ebay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlhjL9wC_Kw


Paul



-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Peter Vucinic
Sent: August 22, 2011 4:21 PM
To: 'Friends of Triumph'
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel

Dear lister's,

 

I am wondering whether any member shave fitted a quick release steering
wheel hub/mechanism to their TR7/8? If so, what brand etc. was used as I am
looking at this option as well. No use reinventing the wheel (pardon the
pun) if we don't have to!

 

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR-4

TR7 V8

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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon Aug 22 14:56:01 2011
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:56:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nice custom TR6
Message-ID: <002401cc610d$e70f9910$b52ecb30$@rogers.com>

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/2559110082.html

 

workmanship is terrific.

 

Paul


From jason at multivintage.com  Mon Aug 22 19:11:40 2011
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:11:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Grattan wrap up
Message-ID: <CALCydYo-kZR+wLJSgdS+D8yuCgGPtChOaqOwgiNPAe2xq+kG+A@mail.gmail.com>

Some quick highlights from the Midwest:

Bill Dentinger was holding off a bunch of Sprites and other Triumphs for
several laps in the sprint race and it was a real sight to see him dive bomb
a bugeye after "the jump" Bill you still have it!

Dennis DeLap's TVR 2200S Is really a beautiful car. Look for this thing at a
track near you! The fact that this car exists out of a vision in his mind to
emulate the cars he loved as a kid is inspirational to say the least. This
home built classic is a sight to behold and really captures some unique
glimpses of days gone by.

Similarly, Tim and Ryan Murphy have really outdone themselves as far as
preparation goes! Their car is really well prepped and they surely make it
clear from their presentation that they do not plan on being beaten by
equipment. Ryan had a real good go from my viewpoint passing many cars and
getting faster all weekend.

Tony Drews... In a class by himself. dominating group two with fast times
and solid podium finishes. Nice job Tony... doing us proud!

Bob Wismer... Solid runs having fun in his TR4 and getting philosophical
about tractor development at the well attended Beady Eye "wine and cheese"
-thanks guys!

Me: I feel good! It was a looong weekend for me. After replacing the entire
middle section of my car over the last month. (new custom flywheel, new
trick clutch, rebuilt my starter, new bellhousing etc... I was a little
nervous going in and quickly became one with the track and car. Everything
was working and I was going fast... for about 15 laps. Then in typical GT6
nonsense... I lost 3rd gear in a rattling grind of disaster. I went back to
the paddock and took the trans apart to find 3rd gear with only 2 teeth on
it. After consulting my peers and in a effort to Never be Beaten By
Equipment... I drove home 3 1/2 hours to steal a trans from my dad's street
car. I snagged it and drove 3 1/2 hours back to the track. I prepped the
trans and pulled my old one finishing at 1:30am. Got up early and installed
the new one! I only missed one Qualifying Session. The car worked great and
starting from the back of the pack for three races on Sunday. I drove the
car to a personal best time for the track finishing at about the middle in
group 8 and in the middle of the Trans - Am race. This is my hobby. I race a
Triumph GT6.

A great weekend for all us Triumph Guys!

Thanks for listening.
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing


From John.Reed at wilson.com  Tue Aug 23 06:22:12 2011
From: John.Reed at wilson.com (Reed, John)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:22:12 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nice custom TR6
In-Reply-To: <002401cc610d$e70f9910$b52ecb30$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <CA7905A4.83A5%John.Reed@wilson.com>

WOW! I want it!




On 8/22/11 3:56 PM, "Paul MacDonald" <macdonaldp at rogers.com> wrote:

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/2559110082.html



workmanship is terrific.



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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Tue Aug 23 08:10:19 2011
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (rjl6n at cstone.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:10:19 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nice custom TR6
In-Reply-To: <CA7905A4.83A5%John.Reed@wilson.com>
References: <CA7905A4.83A5%John.Reed@wilson.com>
Message-ID: <d812478cc8179c3ea44728ee52b84f20.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net>

	That car was recently featured on BringATrailer.com  Very
interesting


	build, and lots of time and effort invested.  The bumpers are kinda


	tacky, and the cage is a bit strange, but overall it must be a neat


	car to drive.


	 


	John


	 


	On Tue, August 23, 2011 8:22 am, Reed, John wrote:

	> WOW! I want it!

	>

	>

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From BillDentin at aol.com  Tue Aug 23 08:32:30 2011
From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:32:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Grattan wrap up
Message-ID: <53393.4b7cd01e.3b8513fe@aol.com>

In a message dated 08/22/2011 8:18:43 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jason at multivintage.com writes:


> <<< Bill Dentinger was holding off a bunch of Sprites and other Triumphs 
> for
> several laps in the sprint race and it was a real sight to see him dive 
> bomb
> a bugeye after "the jump" Bill you still have it! >>>
> 

That part of the track is down hill, and I weigh 100 pounds more than those 
drivers...so I'm actually very fast...going down hill.  My new engine is 
awesome (89 vice 87 mm pistons...flat top, but a custom design).  Grattan is 
my favorite track, and Ole Blue was full of torque coming up hill out of Turn 
4 (a turn I call the Stool Softener), and also up hill coming out of the 
Turn 9 hair pin.  But alas, arthritis in my knees and hips prevents me from 
being competitive.  I had a ball.

Two other Grattan comments:  

1.  There was a VIOLENT rain storm on Saturday afternoon.  Buckets of rain 
water being driven horizontal by very high winds.  This wiped out several 
race team paddocks (tents, tarps, etc.).  The storm only lasted twenty minutes 
or so, but it also knocked out the track's electrical service, so racing 
could not resume.  The track staff quickly brought an old (i.e. vintage) Allis 
Chalmers tractor out of the barn and used its PTO to run a generator.  
Timing and scoring was back in business.  But it was already 2:45 PM and there 
was standing water in several areas of the track and so the balance of racing 
for the day was canceled.

2.  There was a scary incident during the track Touring session on Sunday.  
A gorgeous, highly prepared (read enhanced) Porsche 550 Spyder (replica) 
lost its brakes going into turn 1.  Grattan used to be a drag strip and the 
front straight is long and fast.  Turn 1 is a bad place to be without brakes.  
They slammed into the tire wall bruising the body up.  Oh yeah...the reason 
why this is particularly interesting is the fact that the Event's Driver's 
Coach, David Jones, was driving.  He was introduced as having more times 
going backwards at Grattan than the Event Chair had going forward.  He is a 
great driver, and a good instructor, ...and he added to his 'going backwards 
record' on Sunday during Touring.  And then to add insult to injury, the 
Event's banquet speaker, semi-pro Race Team owner, Reed Smith was in the 
passenger seat.  Take a lesson racers...it is very hard to resist showing off, and 
that can make Touring very dangerous.

BUT as always, Vintage Grand Prix au Grattan was fantastic.

Bill Dentinger


From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Tue Aug 23 09:09:27 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:09:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel
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I used a $50 3/4" splined unit available from Jegs. It is available in
either a 3 or 5 hub bolt pattern.  Pegasus has a similar unit that uses a
slotted hex shaft with a pin release....

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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:21 PM
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Subject: [Fot] TR7/8 Quick Disconnect Wheel


Dear lister's,



I am wondering whether any member shave fitted a quick release steering
wheel hub/mechanism to their TR7/8? If so, what brand etc. was used as I am
looking at this option as well. No use reinventing the wheel (pardon the
pun) if we don't have to!





Thank you in advance.







Kind Regards

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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Tue Aug 23 20:55:42 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:55:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR4A stuff
In-Reply-To: <8CE300270C53F09-1D34-236DC@angweb-usd022.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE300270C53F09-1D34-236DC@angweb-usd022.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE3020728ACFC0-1D4C-3199B@webmail-m089.sysops.aol.com>

Marv Gruber is offering TWO drivetrains and a TR4A.

If anyone is looking for major components, this might make sense.

Marv is knowledgeable and is familiar with shipping large components.

He is located in Alabama.



-----Original Message-----
From: Mgruber921 <mgruber921 at aol.com>
To: N197TR4 <N197TR4 at cs.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:21 pm
Subject: TR4A stuff


 Joe,
How are your, busy like the rest of us.

I recently bought a bunch of TR4A stuff. Two complete drive lines. Both with
the solid axle diffs.
Late engines engines (CT 64414E & CT 65410E, both with the # 511695 alum push
rod tubes)  One is free the other is stuck. Do you know anyone looking for one
right now. Also have a complete 66 TR4a solid car to sell as well. Looks rough
but would make good racer. Engine runs. $4000 for it.

Marv


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Aug 24 07:42:56 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:42:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Re; TR6 at SCCA Solo Nats
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240938110.4275@isis.mit.edu>

Hi,

I was perusing the 2011 Solo Nationals entrants lists last night and low 
and behold - I see a TR6 in FP.

As a person that really, really, really wants to be there next week (*) 
(and also a person that really, really, really, really needs to keep my 
day job) I would like to say "good luck and have a lot of fun. I wish I 
was there too".

(*)my boss thinks otherwise. The jerk.  :-)

I didn't get a chance to look at the complete list, but I assume there'll 
be some Triumph iron in GP and maybe even FSP. In any case - good luck to 
all.

I hope to be there next year. Really!

rml
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Aug 24 07:52:11 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:52:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Black Salt Racing
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240951430.4275@isis.mit.edu>

Hey,

check out:

www.blacksaltracing.com

Does anybody know these folks? If not, maybe we should reach out to them.

I won't post any spoilers. Check it out.

regards,
rml
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Wed Aug 24 11:50:49 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:50:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
Message-ID: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?

 

Thanks,

Tim


From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 24 15:36:20 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:36:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
Message-ID: <1944361533.638210.1314221780100.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Tim,



No, the diaphragm clutch requires a shorter transmission nose piece.



Ed



----- Original Message -----


From: "Tim Murphy" <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:50:49 PM
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?

B 

Thanks,

Tim


From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Wed Aug 24 16:15:49 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:15:49 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <1944361533.638210.1314221780100.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<1944361533.638210.1314221780100.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1bcc01cc62ab$61bbd090$253371b0$@rr.com>

> No, the diaphragm clutch requires a shorter transmission nose piece.

I agree, but the nose piece (aka input housing) can be shortened with a
hacksaw or similar.  Just cut off about 3/8" and deburr/round the edges a
bit.

Otherwise, the "diaphragm" fingers will hit the nose piece when the clutch
pedal is depressed.

-- Randall 


From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Aug 24 17:14:35 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:14:35 +0200
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
Message-ID: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>

Dear FOTers,

Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
opportunity to install a LSD.

It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).

I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
not know the influence of the set up parameters.

I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:

1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
with disc type (oil quantity and heat)

2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60

3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
interlocking?

4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?

5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
application?

6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
worthwhile?

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti


From walt at hot-tr6.com  Wed Aug 24 18:16:14 2011
From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:16:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
Message-ID: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>

I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska next week. I will
be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue and my number is
73. 

I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing on the 29th and racing
on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this

Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing you
there.

Walt Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico


From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Aug 24 19:10:34 2011
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:10:34 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Black Salt Racing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240951430.4275@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108240951430.4275@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <0DEA5142-D5AD-4DA8-9E8D-DBC16441B462@me.com>

here's what the guy posted about the car on another Triumph site.  Apparently someone challenged the classification, saying the GT6 was offered as a four seater.  The challenge was denied and a "Triumph" has the record for fastest modified sportscar in this class.

"Speed trials such as Bonneville use a classification system that is based on three main factors: chassis and level of mods to it, Engine Size, Fuel. You can use any combination to arrive at a class. The car I am referring to is a Modified Sportscar meaning that it is based on a production two seater. From the firewall back the car must be original except the roof can be chopped (lowered). Forward of that almost anything goes. The car is a 360ci Aluminum Brodix with two turbos on methanol. Not going to please the GT6 purist but it will make a gearhead do a double take and grin."

On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:

Hey,

check out:

www.blacksaltracing.com

Does anybody know these folks? If not, maybe we should reach out to them.

I won't post any spoilers. Check it out.

regards,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 24 21:19:30 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:19:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
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References: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
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Brendan would want to be on your crew.....





-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Hollowell <walt at hot-tr6.com>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:25 pm
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals


I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska next week. I will
be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue and my number is
73.

I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing on the 29th and racing
on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this

Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing you
there.

Walt Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From rocky at spitfire4.com  Wed Aug 24 21:29:56 2011
From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
References: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
Message-ID: <2CE9AC49F3434BB999FB40492FCFC26C@rocky>

Hey, Walt. First, welcome to the Solo Nationals!  :-D

But maybe I should help you get up to date on a few things  :-)

It isn't "Solo II" any more, hasn't been since about 2004 or so. But yeah, a 
lot of people still say that. It all changed when Solo I moved under the 
club race banner and became Time Trials.

And of course we don't "practice" as such, although you can spend all day on 
the 29th if you want walking the courses.

Most important, check the schedule. FP is a Tuesday-Wednesday class. 
Specifically, you drive the East Course Tuesday, the West Course 
Wednesday -- 3rd heat both days. Sure wouldn't want you to miss your runs.

I'll be there in my GP Spitfire, #4 -- also blue ... and yellow. Glad to see 
a big TR there. Not many left.

--Rocky Entriken
  (Yes, I am Thu-Fri, 4th heat.)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Walter Hollowell" <walt at hot-tr6.com>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals


> I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska next week. I will
> be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue and my number 
> is
> 73.
>
> I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing on the 29th and 
> racing
> on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this
>
> Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing 
> you
> there.
>
> Walt Hollowell
>
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Aug 24 22:31:46 2011
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:31:46 -0500
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <20110825043214.4C07518764A@autox.team.net>

Phantom Grip has had pretty poor reviews on the forums I participate 
in.  Quaiffe will be long lasting and low to no maintenance.  As long 
as both rear tires are on the ground, I really like it.  However, 
lift the inside rear wheel in cornering and you'll get some spin of that wheel.

Can't answer any of the Salisbury questions other than Tran-X being 
pretty much the only source that I know of for them.  For RACING, 
with my driving style (not nearly as smooth in the corners as Jack 
was), the Salisbury would be the way to go.  I would expect to wear 
out the clutches occasionally though.  For street use, I wouldn't 
hesitate to use a Quaiffe.  I would expect for the finned cover to be 
unnecessary for street use.  For race use, anything you can do to 
keep them cool is probably a good thing.

Tony Drews

At 06:14 PM 8/24/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Dear FOTers,
>
>Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
>opportunity to install a LSD.
>
>It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
>rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
>real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
>not know the influence of the set up parameters.
>
>I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
>1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
>does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
>with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>
>2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60
>
>3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
>interlocking?
>
>4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
>manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
>Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?
>
>5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
>increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
>application?
>
>6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
>worthwhile?
>
>Thank you in advance for your feedback!
>
>With kind regards
>
>Alex Camoletti
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From spitlist at cox.net  Thu Aug 25 08:19:22 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:19:22 -0700
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <20110825043214.4C07518764A@autox.team.net>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
	<20110825043214.4C07518764A@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <73562B03CEBD471388546181A3031BA8@Vista>

Having tried a Phantom Grip (Thanks Steve) I can say that I could not tell
any difference between that and an open diff, even with much stiffer springs
installed.  My conclusion was that any perceived advantage that it has is
just "Phantom"!

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:32 PM
To: Alexandre Camoletti; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Phantom Grip has had pretty poor reviews on the forums I participate 
in.  Quaiffe will be long lasting and low to no maintenance.  As long 
as both rear tires are on the ground, I really like it.  However, 
lift the inside rear wheel in cornering and you'll get some spin of that
wheel.

Can't answer any of the Salisbury questions other than Tran-X being 
pretty much the only source that I know of for them.  For RACING, 
with my driving style (not nearly as smooth in the corners as Jack 
was), the Salisbury would be the way to go.  I would expect to wear 
out the clutches occasionally though.  For street use, I wouldn't 
hesitate to use a Quaiffe.  I would expect for the finned cover to be 
unnecessary for street use.  For race use, anything you can do to 
keep them cool is probably a good thing.

Tony Drews

At 06:14 PM 8/24/2011, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>Dear FOTers,
>
>Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take
the
>opportunity to install a LSD.
>
>It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
>rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
>real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
>not know the influence of the set up parameters.
>
>I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
>1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
>does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
>with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>
>2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60
>
>3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
>interlocking?
>
>4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
>manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
>Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?
>
>5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
>increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
>application?
>
>6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
>worthwhile?
>
>Thank you in advance for your feedback!
>
>With kind regards
>
>Alex Camoletti
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From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Thu Aug 25 10:38:13 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:38:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] SCCA Solo II Nationals
In-Reply-To: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
References: <000901cc62bc$33eb15c0$9bc14140$@hot-tr6.com>
Message-ID: <1314290293.78277.YahooMailRC@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Walter,

What are some of the things you have done to your 70 TR6?

Jim
________________________________
From: Walter Hollowell <walt at hot-tr6.com>
To:
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, August 24, 2011 5:16:14 PM
Subject: [Fot] SCCA
Solo II Nationals

I'm going to SCCA Solo II Nationals in Lincoln, Nebraska
next week. I will
be autocrossing my 1970 TR6 in F Prepared.  My car is blue
and my number is
73. 

I will be registering on Sunday August 28, practicing
on the 29th and racing
on September 1,2. If any FOT members are attending this
Event please stop by my pit area and say "hi".  I look forward to seeing you
there.

Walt Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 25 10:48:34 2011
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:48:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Anyone know this car?
Message-ID: <1314290914.79646.YahooMailNeo@web114714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Interesting looking, to say the least.  Just curious if anyone knows the car
(not personally interested, too many projects already)...
 
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/2563322734.html


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Thu Aug 25 15:18:24 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:18:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
Message-ID: <000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>

Thanks to all who responded.  The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
length.
	The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that engages
the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
	Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the clutch
parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
Moss catalogs.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?

 

Thanks,

Tim
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From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Thu Aug 25 15:55:54 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:55:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
Message-ID: <1d4701cc6371$cc27dac0$64779040$@rr.com>

> 	Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the
> clutch
> parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to
> the
> Moss catalogs.

I don't believe that is correct, Tim, unless I am misunderstanding you.  The
flywheel, friction plate, throwout bearing, TOB carrier, gearbox front cover
(where the carrier rides) and operating shaft all changed.  Even the
bearings that the operating shaft rides in were changed at some point!  

ISTR the only parts that didn't change were the operating fork, taper pin
and the pins that engage the carrier.  And even the fork casting actually
changed, it's just that the later one will fit the earlier setup.

Oh yeah, the slave cylinder changed too (although Moss doesn't show it).
The slave for the diaphragm clutch is supposed to have a spring inside it,
while the finger clutch does not.  The adjustable pushrod was also changed
to a fixed one (since the later setup does not require adjustment).  

There was also a different slave used on cars with front drum brakes
(Lockheed rather than Girling).

-- Randall 


From n197tr4 at cs.com  Thu Aug 25 17:04:52 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:04:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
Message-ID: <8CE319287E24AD4-1CB4-1E250@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>

it would seem that the latter sleeve would be the shorter one.

due to running amuck of the the fingers.

i think i encountered this about 25 years ago on my TR3A

and since then on the early TR4 when converting to later clutch.






-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Murphy <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: 'Tim Murphy' <timmurph at fastbytes.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4


Thanks to all who responded.  The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
length.
	The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that engages
the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
	Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the clutch
parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
Moss catalogs.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?



Thanks,

Tim
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Thu Aug 25 19:16:20 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:16:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
In-Reply-To: <8CE319287E24AD4-1CB4-1E250@webmail-d183.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <998386033.708248.1314321380839.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I don't think he was "talking" about the nose piece.

----- Original Message -----
From: n197tr4 at cs.com
To: timmurph at fastbytes.com, fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:04:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

it would seem that the latter sleeve would be the shorter one.

due to running amuck of the the fingers.

i think i encountered this about 25 years ago on my TR3A

and since then on the early TR4 when converting to later clutch.






-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Murphy <timmurph at fastbytes.com>
To: 'Tim Murphy' <timmurph at fastbytes.com>; fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4


Thanks to all who responded. B The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
length.
B B B B B B B B The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that
engages
the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
B B B B B B B B Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the
clutch
parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
Moss catalogs.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4

Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with the
"three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?



Thanks,

Tim
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From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com  Thu Aug 25 21:47:37 2011
From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
References: <000001cc6286$5c94ff30$15befd90$@com>
	<000e01cc636c$86dd7560$94986020$@com>
Message-ID: <AAF16F0FD5284A8A81D6D0AFB5CB11A0@TER2>

The finger and the diaphragm clutches use different release bearings. The 
flywheels are also drilled differently. The finger type uses a 9 inch 
diameter disc and the pressure plate uses two alignment dowels. The 
diaphragm clutch uses an 8 1/2 inch disc and the pressure plate uses three 
alignment dowels. \ 
Greg Solow
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "'Tim Murphy'" <timmurph at fastbytes.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4


> Thanks to all who responded.  The "three finger" style pressure plate uses
> the "short" sleeve measuring 1.380 inches in length and the "diaphragm"
> style pressure plate uses the "long" sleeve measuring 1.890 inches in
> length.
> The later long sleeves have a roll pin through the slot that engages
> the fork and I'm thinking this is to keep the sleeve from rotating on the
> transmission "snout" and causing excessive wear.
> Other than the two different styles of pressure plates, the clutch
> parts seem to be the same from the TR2 through the TR6, according to the
> Moss catalogs.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Tim Murphy
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:51 PM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Clutch throw out bearing sleeves for TR3/TR4
>
> Are the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the TR2 to early TR4's with 
> the
> "three finger" style pressure plates which use the "flat" face throw out
> bearings interchangeable with the clutch throw out bearing sleeves for the
> later TR4, TR4A and TR6's with the "diaphragm" style pressure plates which
> use the "conical" or "spherical" face throw out bearings?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 03:08:39 2011
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <4E576297.5040208@gmail.com>

On 8/24/11 4:14 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
> It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
> rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>
> I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
> 1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
> does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
> with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>    
Paragraph #1 - Winter, wet, snow.

A Quaife requires rolling resistance to both wheels in order to work.  
The slipping wheel needs to provide some resistance.  A wheel in the air 
or a total lack of rolling resistance from ice can foil and otherwise 
brilliant design.  If you were like most people and keeping the TR under 
cover and hibernating during the snow I would suggest the Quaife as it 
is smooth and you never notice it is there except the rear end is not as 
squirrely.   Had one on the fornt of my Land Rover for 2 decades before 
replaing it with a Trutrac.
>
> 5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
> increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
> application?
>    
Paragraph #1 - "for l*ong distance* road rallies in various conditions"

The Salisbury type generates more heat than an open diff and I believe 
more than a Quaife would.  Over long hard driving distances that heat 
can build up and potentially cause problems.  Thanks to Greg, my TR now 
has a TRAN-X.  It also has a cast diff cover with increased oil 
capacity.  A TRAN-X is not cheap and the extra cooling capacity is good 
insurance in my book.
> 6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
> worthwhile?
>    

There was a lot of interest in Phantom Grip a year or two back and I 
remember that a few people tried it and reported that the Phantom was 
just that.  A phantom grip.  No perceived improvement other than in the 
seller's bank balance.

Teriann

Whose TR's rear end doesn't dance like it used to when you punch it hard 
coming out of a tight curve.


From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 06:13:55 2011
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:13:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: RE:  LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
Message-ID: <4E578E03.50404@gmail.com>

I think this was meant to go to the group as a whole and not me since I 
already have a limited slip.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	RE: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
Date: 	Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:57:08 +0100
From: 	Tony Sheach <tr4.tony at virgin.net>
Reply-To: 	<tr4.tony at virgin.net>
Organization: 	tr4.tony
To: 	'TeriAnn J. Wakeman' <tjwakeman at gmail.com>



TeriAnn

In that case my choice would be the TRANX plate type diff, with a 4,33:1
CW&P ..... if you need any help sourcing those I can organise it here in the
UK with one supplier and get them to deal direct. You will also get a good
price from them as they support me.

Regards Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: 26 August 2011 10:09
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

On 8/24/11 4:14 PM, Alexandre Camoletti wrote:
>  It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance
>  road rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).
>
>
>  I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:
>
>  1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
>  does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems
>  associated with disc type (oil quantity and heat)
>
Paragraph #1 - Winter, wet, snow.

A Quaife requires rolling resistance to both wheels in order to work.
The slipping wheel needs to provide some resistance.  A wheel in the air or
a total lack of rolling resistance from ice can foil and otherwise brilliant
design.  If you were like most people and keeping the TR under cover and
hibernating during the snow I would suggest the Quaife as it is smooth and
you never notice it is there except the rear end is not as
squirrely.   Had one on the fornt of my Land Rover for 2 decades before
replaing it with a Trutrac.
>
>  5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted
to
>  increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
>  application?
>
Paragraph #1 - "for l*ong distance* road rallies in various conditions"

The Salisbury type generates more heat than an open diff and I believe more
than a Quaife would.  Over long hard driving distances that heat can build
up and potentially cause problems.  Thanks to Greg, my TR now has a TRAN-X.
It also has a cast diff cover with increased oil capacity.  A TRAN-X is not
cheap and the extra cooling capacity is good insurance in my book.
>  6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
>  worthwhile?
>

There was a lot of interest in Phantom Grip a year or two back and I
remember that a few people tried it and reported that the Phantom was just
that.  A phantom grip.  No perceived improvement other than in the seller's
bank balance.

Teriann

Whose TR's rear end doesn't dance like it used to when you punch it hard
coming out of a tight curve.
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From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Fri Aug 26 07:43:25 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:43:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Compression ratios
Message-ID: <0D862D48F19A4789863B7E71C968DC17@gdhs.local>

A while back, Mark Bradakis sent out a chart showing head thickness to
compression ratios for GT6 motors and in the chain of replies, Chris Marx
reported that the stock head thickness for a TR4 was 84.2 mm or 3.31 inches.
I note from Mark's chart that a GT6's head thickness of 3.31 inches = 10.75
compression ratio.  Question: are the various head thickness/compression
figures for the GT6 the same as for the TR4?  Or, better still, does anyone
have similar figures for the TR4?

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From colordog.1 at earthlink.net  Fri Aug 26 07:59:10 2011
From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 06:59:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Compression ratios
In-Reply-To: <0D862D48F19A4789863B7E71C968DC17@gdhs.local>
References: <0D862D48F19A4789863B7E71C968DC17@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <99E62FBA-342B-408B-B9B7-87A31B2718AF@earthlink.net>

Hi John,
In addition to milling down a racing cyl head, more work is done to  
the head to grind and smooth-out material in the combustion chamber of  
the head around the valves.  Since this work is done by hand, every  
single head is a little different.
The only way to know for sure is to "CC" the head.  On my head, for  
example, it has .180 milled off the bottom surface but the chamber was  
opened up to to optimize the shape of the combustion area.  The  
milling increases the CR but the other head work decreased the CR.  I  
run 11.2 to 1 with .180 milled off.
The other variable is the thickness of the head-gasket when  
compressed.  The steel shim HG gets smooshed down to .022 when the  
head is torqued down.  This is about as small as it gets.  This .022  
height, creates a volume with my 87mm pistons, it's like adding .022  
to the top of the cylinder.  A thicker HG (head gasket) adds more  
volume to the combustion chamber.  Next time, when the Head is out of  
the car, CC the head as per the instructions in Kas' book.  It's easy.
Here's an online formula to calculate the CR

http://www.csgnetwork.com/compcalc.html

~STEVE



On Aug 26, 2011, at 6:43 AM, John Hasty wrote:

A while back, Mark Bradakis sent out a chart showing head thickness to
compression ratios for GT6 motors and in the chain of replies, Chris  
Marx
reported that the stock head thickness for a TR4 was 84.2 mm or 3.31  
inches.
I note from Mark's chart that a GT6's head thickness of 3.31 inches =  
10.75
compression ratio.  Question: are the various head thickness/compression
figures for the GT6 the same as for the TR4?  Or, better still, does  
anyone
have similar figures for the TR4?

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
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From william.tobin31 at verizon.net  Fri Aug 26 08:12:18 2011
From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (william r tobin)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:12:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] brake lines
Message-ID: <2CD50472854C44EEB761B2E7AD63848A@owner8914bbf7f>

Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old British
cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
already made up?
    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
flares?
    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines to
match the British fittings, without much success.
    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell me
the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd like to
flare my own.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is going?
    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it on
the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van days!


From ac at camoletti.ch  Fri Aug 26 10:04:08 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:04:08 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Compression ratios
In-Reply-To: <0D862D48F19A4789863B7E71C968DC17@gdhs.local>
References: <0D862D48F19A4789863B7E71C968DC17@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <001801cc6409$c9c90720$5d5b1560$@camoletti.ch>

HI John ! I milled 0.118 from my head (was 100% before, never skimmed) and
got 10.5 (corresponding to calculations).
But I made the chamfers in the chamber'side as per Kas' guidelines, so that
adds volume (approx. 2cc, as anticipated by calculation also).
So if you mill .118'' without chamfering from plain stock thickness then CR
may be above 11.
Then it depends how high the valves sit in the chamber, and what valves you
have (this can impact 1-2cc per chamber)
Also if you chamfer the plug hole, this adds volume.
Re headgasket, the volume it creates it often more than we think as you have
to calculate it not by multiplying the bore surface by gasket thickness but
the effective bore of the gasket itself, which often is quite a bit larger
than the round bore of the liner. Use school paper with squares to draw the
gasket bore on it, then count the squares and do the maths you'll get the
surface (each "non full" square count 1/2 square the small and big halves
will compensate each other quite well, this is the usual practice).
To be more precise I can check my handwritten chart if you wish, as I
calculated then measured all these parameters, it is in the shop with the
engine building file.
Let me know!
Alex

-----Message d'origine-----
De : fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la
part de John Hasty
Envoyi : vendredi 26 ao{t 2011 15:43
@ : 'Friends of Triumph'
Objet : [Fot] Compression ratios

A while back, Mark Bradakis sent out a chart showing head thickness to
compression ratios for GT6 motors and in the chain of replies, Chris Marx
reported that the stock head thickness for a TR4 was 84.2 mm or 3.31 inches.
I note from Mark's chart that a GT6's head thickness of 3.31 inches = 10.75
compression ratio.  Question: are the various head thickness/compression
figures for the GT6 the same as for the TR4?  Or, better still, does anyone
have similar figures for the TR4?

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
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From triosan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 11:20:02 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:20:02 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>

Having finally just read Kas' new book, and having talked to Joe at the
Laguna Cup race, I decided to install a crankcase evacuator system.  So now:

1. I have a Triumphtune Rocker cover.  There is a hole for the vent, but no
filtering whatsoever.  Will I get a lot of oil/mist sucked into the
exhaust?
2. If so, what is a good solution.  The breather cap that came with the Kit
[from Mr Gasket] will not fit under the hood with the hose attached even if
I put it as close as possible to the firewall [TR6].
3. Since these kits are for a V8 I have half of one left over.  Glad to
share it with anyone desiring to do this modification.

Thanks,


-- 
Chuck Arnold


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 26 11:57:01 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:01 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc6419$92226770$b6673650$@com>

Hi Chuck,

I've glued a shield in place to have no mist.
I don't use a breather cap just the normal cap that came with the cover.

Cheers
Chris

-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2011 19:20
An: Friends
Betreff: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question

Having finally just read Kas' new book, and having talked to Joe at the
Laguna Cup race, I decided to install a crankcase evacuator system.  So now:

1. I have a Triumphtune Rocker cover.  There is a hole for the vent, but no
filtering whatsoever.  Will I get a lot of oil/mist sucked into the
exhaust?
2. If so, what is a good solution.  The breather cap that came with the Kit
[from Mr Gasket] will not fit under the hood with the hose attached even if
I put it as close as possible to the firewall [TR6].
3. Since these kits are for a V8 I have half of one left over.  Glad to
share it with anyone desiring to do this modification.

Thanks,


--
Chuck Arnold
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From keithfiles at btinternet.com  Fri Aug 26 12:06:10 2011
From: keithfiles at btinternet.com (Keith Files)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:10 +0100
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <64B1E32E1A0C423E828A3ED0BE1281A0@homekeith>

Here is my view.

I run Salisbury LSDs in both my TR4 and my TR6, both cars have 3.9:1 and
4.1:1 ratio CWPs.

In the TR4 the LSDs are virtually maintenance free and do exactly what they
need to do on the track. TR4 has 147 bhp at the rear wheels.

In the TR6 the LSDs need to be rebuilt after every 5 hours of track time and
it is always the clutches that need replacing; rebuild kits are around #100
GBP and it takes 3-4 hours labour. The TR6 puts out 207 bhp at the wheels.

I have recently installed a Gripper LSD in one of the diffs for the TR6;
these are manufactured by Gripper in the UK and are designed by the guy who
originally designed the Salisbury that is manufactured by Tran X but has
taken them further by making them stronger in a number of areas which,
according to them, will result in low levels of maintenance at a lower cost
as well. I am running this LSD at the Nurburgring Nordschleife 3 hour race
in early September to prove it fully; it has already run faultlessly at
Silverstone.

The Gripper costs c #700 GBP + VAT (tax) making it #840 GBP in total.

I will provide a write up and further details on the unit itself after the
event if there is any interest.

Cheers,

Keith.









-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: 25 August 2011 00:15
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Dear FOTers,

Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
opportunity to install a LSD.

It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).

I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
not know the influence of the set up parameters.

I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:

1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
with disc type (oil quantity and heat)

2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60

3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
interlocking?

4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?

5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
application?

6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
worthwhile?

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 26 12:19:02 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:19:02 +0200
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?
In-Reply-To: <64B1E32E1A0C423E828A3ED0BE1281A0@homekeith>
References: <000001cc62b3$9836fbb0$c8a4f310$@camoletti.ch>
	<64B1E32E1A0C423E828A3ED0BE1281A0@homekeith>
Message-ID: <000901cc641c$a4bdb620$ee392260$@com>

And for the cheap side of life:

I run a welded diff for several years now and feel very fine with it.
In two weeks from now it can be seen in action on the Nordschleife.

It is maintenance free.

Cheers
Chris


-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im
Auftrag von Keith Files
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2011 20:06
An: 'Alexandre Camoletti'
Cc: 'FoT Triumph'
Betreff: Re: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Here is my view.

I run Salisbury LSDs in both my TR4 and my TR6, both cars have 3.9:1 and
4.1:1 ratio CWPs.

In the TR4 the LSDs are virtually maintenance free and do exactly what they
need to do on the track. TR4 has 147 bhp at the rear wheels.

In the TR6 the LSDs need to be rebuilt after every 5 hours of track time and
it is always the clutches that need replacing; rebuild kits are around #100
GBP and it takes 3-4 hours labour. The TR6 puts out 207 bhp at the wheels.

I have recently installed a Gripper LSD in one of the diffs for the TR6;
these are manufactured by Gripper in the UK and are designed by the guy who
originally designed the Salisbury that is manufactured by Tran X but has
taken them further by making them stronger in a number of areas which,
according to them, will result in low levels of maintenance at a lower cost
as well. I am running this LSD at the Nurburgring Nordschleife 3 hour race
in early September to prove it fully; it has already run faultlessly at
Silverstone.

The Gripper costs c #700 GBP + VAT (tax) making it #840 GBP in total.

I will provide a write up and further details on the unit itself after the
event if there is any interest.

Cheers,

Keith.









-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: 25 August 2011 00:15
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] LSD diffs, what specs to choose?

Dear FOTers,

Have to install a LSD in my TR3. As the diff needs to be rebuilt, I take the
opportunity to install a LSD.

It will be a (very) fast road car, fully prepped for long distance road
rallies in various conditions  (Winter, Summer, dry, wet, snow).

I would like the car to remain predictable and driveable in all sorts of
real road situations, so it has to be some compromise I suppose, but I do
not know the influence of the set up parameters.

I know little about LSDs, hence a couple of questions:

1)      Quaife (gear driven) or Salisbury (disc type)? I know the Quaife
does not work with one wheel lifted, but has not the problems associated
with disc type (oil quantity and heat)

2)      If Salisbury type: what ramp angles? I heard of 45/45, 45/60, 30/60

3)      Re Salisbury again: the locking should be lightweight or fully
interlocking?

4)      Salisbury still: looks like TRAN-X in the UK is the one
manufacturing them or did any one of you have good experience with another
Salisbury type LSD manufacturer?

5)      Still Salisbury; should the RACETORATIONS finned cover be fitted to
increase cooling and oil capacity, or is not critical in a fast road
application?

6)      There is also the PHANTOM GRIP possibility , what is it and is it
worthwhile?

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

With kind regards

Alex Camoletti
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From triosan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 12:36:24 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:36:24 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>

I could easily do that setup as I have a catch tank in place now.
BUT... How would negative pressure work in such a case as I would be sucking
on the tank with an opening to the atmosphere and I do not understand how
any negative pressure would get applied to the crankcase.

If Iran the evacuator line to a non-vented tank then to the rocker cover
[with a cover over the vent hole like Christian showed to stop directly
sucking into the hose] then I think it would work.  The evacuator uses 5/8
inch line -- which I believe is AN10.

Thoughts everyone?



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With a crankcase evac, you'll have negative pressure present, so if you tap
> into the valve cover, you'll pull oil mist out. Another way to do this
> without sucking all the oil from the engine is to set up a system where the
> valve cover vent line goes to a tank of some sort that has the evacuator on
> one tap and there is also a vent to atmospere. That way, if the engine
> starts blowing oil, it goes to the tank but not necessarily all out the
> tailpipe.
>
> The goodparts oil seperator is a good way of doing this, but you may find
> the capacity to be on the small side. So another way of doing it would be to
> use the goodparts setup with a larger tank...
>
> I run a PCV setup on my car. I have the neg. pressure source as the INTAKE
> (there's a tap on the Cannon Weber manifold). This gives me negative
> pressure on the overrun only. If the crankcase pressurizes, it vents to the
> catch tank (which is vented to atmosphere). The key here is that when
> there's lots of oil present in the valve cover - it "blows" into the catch
> tank, but when I lift, the oil vapor can get sucked back through the into
> the intake (and burned off). With this setup, I get a small amount of oil in
> the catch tank when I run the motor to stupid revs (like 7000+), but no
> excessive leaks anywhere.
>
> To your question on the breather - I wouldn't use the oil filler cap as the
> breather (along with the fitment issuse you mentioned (like fouling on the
> bonnet)). Use the catch tank as the breather. That way you don't have to
> worry about saturating the breather filter and the potential fire hazard
> that presents. The key here is that on a long hi-RPM run, you get a LOT of
> oil in the valve cover and there's a good chance that that oil will find its
> way out. I don't like valve cover breather filters cuz they seem to fill
> with oil and then drip (or worse) and you get oil everywhere.
>
> On the size of the hose(s) from the valve cover - go with TWO AN8 or AN10
> lines if you can.
>
> regards,
> rml
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ---------------
>



-- 
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From donmarshall at nefcom.net  Fri Aug 26 12:40:59 2011
From: donmarshall at nefcom.net (Don Marshall)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:40:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Alternator Refit
In-Reply-To: <E8C6E35047EA4F41A1E580C2FF98B8F3@gdhs.local>
References: <E8C6E35047EA4F41A1E580C2FF98B8F3@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <op.v0t3il1vairs7i@don-pc.belkin>

I just got this same alternator from DB Electrical, but neither of the  
large pulleys that I have on hand will fit on it without some serious  
modification since the shaft only sticks out of the housing a small  
amount.  What oversized pulley are others using with these?  I have a  
Moroso 5" that fits perfectly on a regular GM alternator and another  
unidentified 5"  but neither will fit without machine work that will cost  
as much as the alternator did.  Thanks, Don

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:32:50 -0400, John Hasty <jhhasty at gdhs.com> wrote:

> I know this might be a bit late, but for all who may encounter this  
> problem
> in the future, DB Electrical in Johnson City TN offers a 50 amp small
> alternator (4'' x 4.5") with mounting hole centers @5 3/8" under the  
> name of
> "Denso Chevy Street Rod Race".  The other nice thing is that it's a one  
> wire
> alternator, even I knew how to hook this up! Only costs $74.00.   
> Installed
> on my TR3A and it works like a charm and no problems with header  
> clearance
> etc.  They have a web cite with pics etc........
>
> John H. Hasty
> Attorney At Law
> Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
> 719 East Boulevard
> Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
> Tele: (704) 372-5600
> Fax: (704) 372-4601
> E-mail: jhhasty at gdhs.com


From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 26 12:45:57 2011
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:45:57 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
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The vents are needed to prevent a sucking noise at the lip seals of the
crank with more modern cars.
With our old lumps and enough blow by no noise will occur - but who cares
anyway if it does?

Cheer
Chris

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Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2011 20:36
An: Robert M. Lang; Friends
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question

I could easily do that setup as I have a catch tank in place now.
BUT... How would negative pressure work in such a case as I would be sucking
on the tank with an opening to the atmosphere and I do not understand how
any negative pressure would get applied to the crankcase.

If Iran the evacuator line to a non-vented tank then to the rocker cover
[with a cover over the vent hole like Christian showed to stop directly
sucking into the hose] then I think it would work.  The evacuator uses 5/8
inch line -- which I believe is AN10.

Thoughts everyone?



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With a crankcase evac, you'll have negative pressure present, so if you
tap
> into the valve cover, you'll pull oil mist out. Another way to do this
> without sucking all the oil from the engine is to set up a system where
the
> valve cover vent line goes to a tank of some sort that has the evacuator
on
> one tap and there is also a vent to atmospere. That way, if the engine
> starts blowing oil, it goes to the tank but not necessarily all out the
> tailpipe.
>
> The goodparts oil seperator is a good way of doing this, but you may find
> the capacity to be on the small side. So another way of doing it would be
to
> use the goodparts setup with a larger tank...
>
> I run a PCV setup on my car. I have the neg. pressure source as the INTAKE
> (there's a tap on the Cannon Weber manifold). This gives me negative
> pressure on the overrun only. If the crankcase pressurizes, it vents to
the
> catch tank (which is vented to atmosphere). The key here is that when
> there's lots of oil present in the valve cover - it "blows" into the catch
> tank, but when I lift, the oil vapor can get sucked back through the into
> the intake (and burned off). With this setup, I get a small amount of oil
in
> the catch tank when I run the motor to stupid revs (like 7000+), but no
> excessive leaks anywhere.
>
> To your question on the breather - I wouldn't use the oil filler cap as
the
> breather (along with the fitment issuse you mentioned (like fouling on the
> bonnet)). Use the catch tank as the breather. That way you don't have to
> worry about saturating the breather filter and the potential fire hazard
> that presents. The key here is that on a long hi-RPM run, you get a LOT of
> oil in the valve cover and there's a good chance that that oil will find
its
> way out. I don't like valve cover breather filters cuz they seem to fill
> with oil and then drip (or worse) and you get oil everywhere.
>
> On the size of the hose(s) from the valve cover - go with TWO AN8 or AN10
> lines if you can.
>
> regards,
> rml
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Fri Aug 26 13:16:53 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:16:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
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Hi,

I don't know the full theory on this stuff, but the key here is that you 
have _pressure differential_ between the crank case (or valvetrain) and 
the catch tank. In order to keep oil from blowing out of every crevice on 
the motor, this differential must be negative where you want the oil (or 
vapor) to flow.

So, you don't need a lot of vacuum - you just need lower pressure than 
what's inside the engine.

You can get crazy with all this, but if the goal is to stop leaks and 
stuff, you need "just enough". Two 5/8" hoses is def better than one 1/2" 
hose (which is what the factory used for Federal Emissions cars) - so two 
AN10's would be great.

As far as the "breathing" part, you just need about the same surface area 
of outlet as the hose(s) you are using to vent the valve cover. If you use 
MORE area in the outlet you can't get lower pressure in the catch tank and 
you more or less defeat the purpose OR you need to find a better method to 
reduce the pressure in the catch tank...

My setup works pretty well. Even when I had a broken ring (30% leakdown 
past the rings) the motor didn't leak at all! Surprised me too (when I ran 
the leakdown test).

I like the suggestion of a baffle in the valve cover. That's what the 
factory did (although they also use a screen which is overkill IMHO).

c ya,
rml
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From RKramer at rdoequipment.com  Fri Aug 26 13:20:17 2011
From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:20:17 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261506360.19620@isis.mit.edu>
References: <CAMc4sNDqaLTW9zr0uibgt5EZ8AZwaf9E0i7MJcYabmsE_Mf6Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261342140.19620@isis.mit.edu>
	<CAMc4sNBR-Sp=zsq=O8pyE3GLOZvGNGxB=q4X-nhV7-wX25WpYA@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108261506360.19620@isis.mit.edu>
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Doesn't Richard Good sell a canister to separate the smoke from the oil?

Bob Kramer
Southern Construction Inventory Manager
RDO Equipment Company
16415 N. IH 35  Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-687-7422 Office
512-657-8526 Cell


Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn
out. ~John Wooden


-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Robert M. Lang
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 2:17 PM
To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
Cc: Friends
Subject: Re: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question

Hi,

I don't know the full theory on this stuff, but the key here is that you have
_pressure differential_ between the crank case (or valvetrain) and the catch
tank. In order to keep oil from blowing out of every crevice on the motor,
this differential must be negative where you want the oil (or
vapor) to flow.

So, you don't need a lot of vacuum - you just need lower pressure than what's
inside the engine.

You can get crazy with all this, but if the goal is to stop leaks and stuff,
you need "just enough". Two 5/8" hoses is def better than one 1/2"
hose (which is what the factory used for Federal Emissions cars) - so two
AN10's would be great.

As far as the "breathing" part, you just need about the same surface area of
outlet as the hose(s) you are using to vent the valve cover. If you use MORE
area in the outlet you can't get lower pressure in the catch tank and you more
or less defeat the purpose OR you need to find a better method to reduce the
pressure in the catch tank...

My setup works pretty well. Even when I had a broken ring (30% leakdown past
the rings) the motor didn't leak at all! Surprised me too (when I ran the
leakdown test).

I like the suggestion of a baffle in the valve cover. That's what the factory
did (although they also use a screen which is overkill IMHO).

c ya,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Aug 26 17:04:12 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:04:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  Crank case evacuator question
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-----Original Message-----
From: n197tr4 <n197tr4 at cs.com>
To: triosan <triosan at gmail.com>; lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>; fot
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2011 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Crank case evacuator question


It would seem that it would work best with a closed system.

We have used the existing nipple on the OEM valve cover for about 13 years. It
might be baffled with simple 'top hat' tab strip, but sucking copious amounts
of oil out has never been an issue.

Tech responds positively when I explain the concept....when they do ask.

In order to avoid questions, I think Sean is going add a dummy tank.

If you are over 60, apparently you get more respect....Sean's hair is not grey
enough.

BTW, THIS IS NOT A NEW IDEA......and it has other benefits in reducing
turbulence in the crankcase and aids in sealing the rings.....according to
technical reports.  Long used by dragstrip and stock car guys....pretty clever
folks they are, and their parts can be a lot cheaper.

Bottom line to us was a dry chassis after a hard weekend at high speed.

Cheap/Effective


From trdoctor at aol.com  Fri Aug 26 18:28:48 2011
From: trdoctor at aol.com (Sam Clark)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Fot Brake Lines
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References: <mailman.1.1314381602.12781.fot@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <FB186A23-9C82-4605-BC27-3CBEE11E5FBE@aol.com>

You can buy an ISO/Bubble Flaring tool from $nap On.  Not cheap, but works
fine.  I had to flag a truck down and have them order them for me.  PN
TFN-428

Sam Clark
Green Country Triumphs

On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:00 PM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:

>
>
> Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old
British
> cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
> already made up?
>    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
> flares?
>    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
>    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines to
> match the British fittings, without much success.
>    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell
me
> the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd like
to
> flare my own.
>    Any thoughts?
>    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is going?
>    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
> line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it
on
> the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
> Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van
days!


From triosan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 21:36:54 2011
From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:36:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fot Brake Lines
In-Reply-To: <FB186A23-9C82-4605-BC27-3CBEE11E5FBE@aol.com>
References: <mailman.1.1314381602.12781.fot@autox.team.net>
	<FB186A23-9C82-4605-BC27-3CBEE11E5FBE@aol.com>
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Airport Spruce -- about $100.  I did many, many brake and fuel Lines in the
race car and the tool sure paid off [as did the "Kool Tool" for
holding the hose ends -- got it from Racer Wholesale].

Chuck

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Sam Clark <trdoctor at aol.com> wrote:hlding
the hose ends].

> You can buy an ISO/Bubble Flaring tool from $nap On.  Not cheap, but works
> fine.  I had to flag a truck down and have them order them for me.  PN
> TFN-428
>
> Sam Clark
> Green Country Triumphs
>
> On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:00 PM, fot-request at autox.team.net wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old
> British
> > cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
> > already made up?
> >    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
> > flares?
> >    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
> >    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines
> to
> > match the British fittings, without much success.
> >    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell
> me
> > the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd
> like
> to
> > flare my own.
> >    Any thoughts?
> >    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is
> going?
> >    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
> > line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it
> on
> > the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
> > Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van
> days!
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From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Aug 26 22:44:43 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:44:43 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
Message-ID: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>

Do any of the vintage sanctioning bodies allow the rear swing axle setups to
be converted to a more conventional (like twin A-frame) type of suspension?
Or are you stuck with the swing axles?  I ask because the thought of
offering an upgrade  consisting of the lower control arm and split axles
with a CV joint has recently come to me.  If there is a reasonable demand, I
might explore further to see how much I could offer it for.

 

Racers could use it if it is not outlawed, but street cars might find it
attractive if it doesn't break the bank.

 

Thanks,

Joe C.


From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 27 06:20:44 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:20:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
Message-ID: <002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>

Joe,

I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
IRS conversion
for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.

Doug

--
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dmitchel at sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:45 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

Do any of the vintage sanctioning bodies allow the rear swing axle setups to
be converted to a more conventional (like twin A-frame) type of suspension?
Or are you stuck with the swing axles?  I ask because the thought of
offering an upgrade  consisting of the lower control arm and split axles
with a CV joint has recently come to me.  If there is a reasonable demand, I
might explore further to see how much I could offer it for.

 

Racers could use it if it is not outlawed, but street cars might find it
attractive if it doesn't break the bank.

 

Thanks,

Joe C.
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Aug 27 08:19:48 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:19:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>

I think you had better take another look at PRI's product.  It is a
replacement for the road spring to coil-over but leaves the swing axle
intact (if that is the product you are referring to).  In my estimation,
that is nothing more than "Bling"

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

Joe,

I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
IRS conversion
for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.

Doug

--
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From SeaCubeCo at aol.com  Sat Aug 27 08:56:24 2011
From: SeaCubeCo at aol.com (Christopher Bock)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:56:24 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
Message-ID: <DB1212B8-9CC1-4F19-8F04-9340412ED166@aol.com>

I have looked at the pRI set up. It makes the rear more independent. But to
get away from the swing arm completely  use the GT6 lower a-arm with a cv
setup.   That sounds like a really sweet setup to me in my mind.

Chris

On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:19 AM, "Joe Curry" <spitlist at cox.net> wrote:

> I think you had better take another look at PRI's product.  It is a
> replacement for the road spring to coil-over but leaves the swing axle
> intact (if that is the product you are referring to).  In my estimation,
> that is nothing more than "Bling"
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
> To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
>
> Joe,
>
> I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
> IRS conversion
> for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.
>
> Doug
>
> --
> Doug Mitchell
> dmitchel at sbcglobal.net
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From spitlist at cox.net  Sat Aug 27 09:02:14 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:02:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <DB1212B8-9CC1-4F19-8F04-9340412ED166@aol.com>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
	<DB1212B8-9CC1-4F19-8F04-9340412ED166@aol.com>
Message-ID: <55B6BF12CBFF4A9A8879805C31C70338@Vista>

That is more of what I had in mind with the aim of using a CV joint rather
than rotoflex and using the Spitfire upright rather than having to seek a
good pair of GT6 rotoflex uprights.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bock [mailto:SeaCubeCo at aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:56 AM
To: Joe Curry
Cc: Doug Mitchell; <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

I have looked at the pRI set up. It makes the rear more independent. But to
get away from the swing arm completely  use the GT6 lower a-arm with a cv
setup.   That sounds like a really sweet setup to me in my mind.  

Chris

On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:19 AM, "Joe Curry" <spitlist at cox.net> wrote:

> I think you had better take another look at PRI's product.  It is a
> replacement for the road spring to coil-over but leaves the swing axle
> intact (if that is the product you are referring to).  In my estimation,
> that is nothing more than "Bling"
> 
> Joe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
> To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
> 
> Joe,
> 
> I don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells
an
> IRS conversion
> for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.
> 
> Doug
> 
> --
> Doug Mitchell
> dmitchel at sbcglobal.net
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Sat Aug 27 10:10:02 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:10:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hastings and Road America
Message-ID: <8CE32EAE8F6322F-3CC-1044E@webmail-m066.sysops.aol.com>

Next weekend, we are looking forward to running Hastings with RMVR and HVR as
sanctioning bodies. A country club course with little of the excitement of
Road America, but lower in cost and will make a good event for friends and
family.

We also plan to attend THE ELVF at Road America. It will be a tribute to a
late friend, Mike Roseberry. Mike and Duck Waddle were charter members of our
NORTHEAST IOWA SPORTS CAR CLUB from the late 50s. It was Mike's wish that his
ashes be distributed there, so his family have made reservations to be there.

Included in the Roseberry family albums are pictures of Duck racing his TR3. I
had forgotten that.

Looking forward to seeing folks that will be at both locations.

Joe A.


From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Sat Aug 27 15:23:20 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:23:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] brake lines
In-Reply-To: <2CD50472854C44EEB761B2E7AD63848A@owner8914bbf7f>
References: <2CD50472854C44EEB761B2E7AD63848A@owner8914bbf7f>
Message-ID: <000501cc64ff$8dfbcfb0$a9f36f10$@com>

An expensive solution is the use of AN fittings which have the great
advantage of being able to be removed and screwed back on without leaking.
For the small brake line fittings they are less costly and may be worth it.
I've for gotten which flare they use but I think I got the flaring tool from
Aircraft Spruce and it worked great, also no leaks!

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of william r tobin
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:12 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] brake lines

Hi Gang, what do you do when having to replace brake lines on our old
British
cars? How do you flare the lines to fit our older cars? Do you buy them
already made up?
    Or do you switch to the SAE 45 degree double flares? Or the ISO bubble
flares?
    Or just chuck the whole works and go to all modern fittings?
    I've been looking for a flaring tool that will flare hard brake lines to
match the British fittings, without much success.
    I know Dr. Dave at TRF makes lines to British specs (and he won't sell
me
the tool!) and Richard Good sells lines with British fittings, but I'd like
to
flare my own.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks, Bill    Headed to Watkins Glen in two weeks; who else is going?
    PS, Richard, I bougtht a roll of the Copper Nickle Ferrous Alloy brake
line. Pricey but forms easily and won't rust. And looks cool.I'm using it on
the '71 Dodge B300 van I just bought; neat old van, great for cruise-ins.
Florida van and all carpeted inside. Ah, back to the old pimped-out van
days!
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From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 28 16:29:51 2011
From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:29:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
Message-ID: <1314570591.73417.YahooMailRC@web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Joe,

You're right. I saw the "fully independent" and assumed thry meant IRS.
Of course we know all about assume.

Doug



----- Original Message ----
From:
Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: Doug Mitchell <dmitchel at sbcglobal.net>;
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, August 27, 2011 10:19:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Fot]
Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

I think you had better take
another look at PRI's product.  It is a
replacement for the road spring to
coil-over but leaves the swing axle
intact (if that is the product you are
referring to).  In my estimation,
that is nothing more than "Bling"

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dmitchel at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:21 AM
To: 'Joe Curry'; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing

Joe,

I
don't know about the vintage sanctioning bodies, but PRI already sells an
IRS
conversion
for the Spitfire. Around $1350US.

Doug

--
Doug Mitchell
dmitchel at sbcglobal.net


From mdporter at dfn.com  Sun Aug 28 16:57:54 2011
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:57:54 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear suspension mods in Vintage racing
In-Reply-To: <1314570591.73417.YahooMailRC@web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <B6BBBD2C68E74D5393ED66C4A208D516@Vista>
	<002401cc64b3$c03564b0$40a02e10$@sbcglobal.net>
	<65598C06BF8846FE897C465FF2AD8932@Vista>
	<1314570591.73417.YahooMailRC@web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E5AC7F2.10703@dfn.com>

On 8/28/2011 4:29 PM, Doug Mitchell wrote:
> Joe,
>
> You're right. I saw the "fully independent" and assumed thry meant IRS.
> Of course we know all about assume.
>
>

Umm, well, no contradiction there.  IRS = Independent Rear Suspension, 
which, yes, includes swing axles.

The difference is in swing axle to double-jointed axle.  Both are IRS, 
but there's some notable difference in how the wheel behaves between the 
two configurations.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....


From tedtsimx at bright.net  Mon Aug 29 12:23:25 2011
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:23:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Vintage Race
Message-ID: <4E5BD91D.7060907@bright.net>

Hi listers. We will beat the Watkins Glen Vintage races Sept. 8 - 11.  
We will have a parts/accessories booth in the vendor area and can bring 
items out ifyou have a specific need. Please give me a call if you need 
something.  Look forward to seeing you there. Thanks,Ted

-- 
Ted Schumacher
tedtsimx at bright.net
http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
108 S. Jefferson St.
Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.)
Phone: 800.543.6648 (US&  Canada)
Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022


From sherryjimmy6116 at att.net  Mon Aug 29 17:34:13 2011
From: sherryjimmy6116 at att.net (sherry robyn)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:34:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hooking up the light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
	<1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <1314660853.51786.YahooMailRC@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well, got the little DB altenator and it looks good.  The physical hookup is
no 
problem.  On the electrical part, I am still using the ignition, etc of
the 
original 74 TR6.  Currently I have three wires going to the altenator. 
One is 
large brown which I assume to be to the starter/battery.  I also have
a brown 
yellow which I assume is from the ignition and finally, a small brown
wire that 
went into a separate plug in the altenator.  My stock voltmeter
works and I 
assume that this small brown wire is for that.

On the new
altenator, I have the heavy battery terminal which I assume I will 
connect
the large brown wire to.  The other terminal on the new altenator has
a horizonal and vertical pin in what could be a single plug.  The top
horizonal 
pin seems to indicate ground.  What is the best way to handle this
one?  Also, 
is the vertical pin below the ground pin the one for the ignition
wire (brown 
yellow)?  Where would I connect the voltmeter wire on the new
altenator?

Thanks for any help on this, Jim in Folsom, CA
________________________________
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To:
sherry robyn <sherryjimmy6116 at att.net>
Cc: Richard Good
<goodparts at verizon.net>; MIKE DEWEERD <deweerdm at rogers.com>;
fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, August 22, 2011 7:22:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot]
Light weight altenator



DB Electrical

www.dbelectrical.com

Look at the
NipponDenso Chevy mini-alternator, 40 AMPS, 5 lb.

It's less than $75 to your
door for a brand-new alternator.

To install it, you need an upper bracket
(less than $20 or the scrap pile, your 
choice) and a couple of spacers
(another $10 or less at the h/w store) and the 
proper sized belt.

Electrical
hookup is easy - a big wire to the battery and a wire from the 
ignition
switch to excite the alternator.

I put one on my race car and I love it.
regards,
rml
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Former
NER Solo Chair                          |
Voice:617-253-7438                 
          |  Cell: 339-927-4489
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From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Mon Aug 29 19:12:38 2011
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:12:38 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Hooking up the light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <1314660853.51786.YahooMailRC@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
	<1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
	<1314660853.51786.YahooMailRC@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <226f01cc66b1$e92f2f90$bb8d8eb0$@rr.com>

> One is
> large brown which I assume to be to the starter/battery.

Yup.

>  I also have
> a brown
> yellow which I assume is from the ignition

Ignition warning lamp, on the dash.

> and finally, a small brown
> wire that
> went into a separate plug in the altenator.  My stock voltmeter
> works and I
> assume that this small brown wire is for that.

No, it is a "sense" wire from the battery back to the regulator inside the
alternator, so it can "see" battery voltage without the voltage drop induced
in the big wire (by heavy current flowing through it).

> On the new
> altenator, I have the heavy battery terminal which I assume I will
> connect
> the large brown wire to.

That's right.

> The other terminal on the new altenator has
> a horizonal and vertical pin in what could be a single plug.  The top
> horizonal
> pin seems to indicate ground.  What is the best way to handle this
> one?  Also,
> is the vertical pin below the ground pin the one for the ignition
> wire (brown
> yellow)?  Where would I connect the voltmeter wire on the new
> altenator?

There are a lot of variations, and your description doesn't match my
alternator so I can't really answer.  But most likely you'll need to run an
additional wire from a switched power source (ignition circuit); and the
small brown wire won't be used.

-- Randall 


From lang at isis.mit.edu  Tue Aug 30 08:13:38 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:13:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Hooking up the light weight altenator
In-Reply-To: <226f01cc66b1$e92f2f90$bb8d8eb0$@rr.com>
References: <1313570144.70660.YahooMailClassic@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E052D75753C7480DB873709FAAD6E607@AdminPC>
	<1313816215.11154.YahooMailRC@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108221018460.18323@isis.mit.edu>
	<1314660853.51786.YahooMailRC@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<226f01cc66b1$e92f2f90$bb8d8eb0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108301011350.17556@isis.mit.edu>

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Randall wrote:

[good info, but stuff deleted]

> There are a lot of variations, and your description doesn't match my
> alternator so I can't really answer.  But most likely you'll need to run an
> additional wire from a switched power source (ignition circuit); and the
> small brown wire won't be used.

This is correct. This wire is what energizes the alternator. Without this, 
you'll see 12 volts no matter what the revs are. With this connected to 
the ignition source, you'll get the expected 13.7 (plus or minus).

> -- Randall

regards,
rml
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Former NER Solo Chair                          |
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From gasket.works at verizon.net  Tue Aug 30 22:01:04 2011
From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:01:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT
References: <00ae01cc673f$b452af20$1cf80d60$@com>
Message-ID: <00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>

Dustin:

I will post this on the FOT email site.  You may get a response from some
local folks.

good luck racing...

Mordy

M.N.Dunst
Gasket Works USA, LLC
www.Headgasket.com
626.358.1616 ph1
626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax

Triple R Munitions, Inc.
Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax
GMT-8 Pacific


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dustin Nicholson
  To: gasket.works at gte.net
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM
  Subject: FOT


  Hi, I'm a long time follower of FOT from the outside.  I've got several
friends (mostly in Texas) that race Triumphs in CVAR and I'm looking to get
into it myself.  For the last 15 years I have had stock spitfires and have
autocrossed them at VTR conventions and I have done a 24 hours of LeMons in a
TR6, but am now ready to get a real race car.  Can you help me find a beginner
racing Triumph?  I'd really like to become a  member of FOT, how do I do that?
I understand y'all have an email group that I'd like to be a part of.



  Thanks,

  Dustin Nicholson


From gasket.works at verizon.net  Tue Aug 30 22:03:04 2011
From: gasket.works at verizon.net (MORDY DUNST)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:03:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fw: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction
Message-ID: <00be01cc6792$e290d350$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>

I am forwarding this information the group.

NFI...

Mordy

M.N.Dunst
Gasket Works USA, LLC
www.Headgasket.com
626.358.1616 ph1
626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax

Triple R Munitions, Inc.
Class 6  Certified F.F.L.
626.201.9471 ph/TEXT
626.628.3777 fax
GMT-8 Pacific


----- Original Message -----
From: Shuler Auctions
To: gasket.works at gte.net
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: 68 TR250 going to Public Auction


We will be Auctioning a 1968 TR250 on Sept 18th at Public Auction in
Titusville, Florida.  Do you have a place that we can post this info?

Thank You,
Debbie Shuler AU#3756
Cliff Shuler Auctioneers & Liquidators, Inc. AB#9/AU#14
Shuler & Shuler Real Estate Auctioneers, Inc.
Secretary/Treasurer Florida Auctioneers Association
422 Julia St., Titusville, FL 32796
www.soldfor.com
321-267-8563 office
321-383-3147 fax


From ac at camoletti.ch  Wed Aug 31 08:11:41 2011
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:11:41 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
Message-ID: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>

Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about LSDs.
I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet to
digest all that.

Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
(temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
manifold.

I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the INNOVATE
MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
gauge)

What do you think of it ? Any experience?

And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)

Thank you Amici!

All the best

Alex


From spitlist at cox.net  Wed Aug 31 08:55:33 2011
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:55:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
In-Reply-To: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>
References: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <AE74EEE7C9B94080AF4B5E0CF69243F6@Vista>

This is the one I am using.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3375/

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:12 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter

Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about LSDs.
I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet to
digest all that.

Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
(temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
manifold.

I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the INNOVATE
MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
gauge)

What do you think of it ? Any experience?

And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)

Thank you Amici!

All the best

Alex
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From horizonracing at msn.com  Wed Aug 31 09:25:07 2011
From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:25:07 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
In-Reply-To: <AE74EEE7C9B94080AF4B5E0CF69243F6@Vista>
References: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>,
	<AE74EEE7C9B94080AF4B5E0CF69243F6@Vista>
Message-ID: <SNT141-W479C26DEC616C8EE5B5C5FB2160@phx.gbl>

Almost all of my cars have A/F meters fitted. I just fitted a the gauge from
Innovate. By Far the Best set up. All weather pack connections.East to read
gauge.
down loadable if you are into that !


> From: spitlist at cox.net
> To: ac at camoletti.ch; fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:55:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
>
> This is the one I am using.
>
> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3375/
>
> Joe C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Alexandre Camoletti
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:12 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
>
> Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about
LSDs.
> I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet
to
> digest all that.
>
> Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
> (temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
> manifold.
>
> I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the INNOVATE
> MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
> gauge)
>
> What do you think of it ? Any experience?
>
> And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)
>
> Thank you Amici!
>
> All the best
>
> Alex
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>
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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Wed Aug 31 09:57:44 2011
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:57:44 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24
Message-ID: <SNT134-W31CD35B13D5789B6BBA9BF90160@phx.gbl>

I woul like to invite you to the following event:

I am putting together a TSD Road Rally in Taos, New Mexico on September 24th
and would love to have a good turnout especially considering how big a chore
it is turning into.
The Rally is a part of the Rio Grande Valley Regional Rendezvous put on by the
British Automobile Owners Association in Albuquerque.
Registration can be had at www.baoa.org
Cheers, Henry Morrison, Cedar Crest, NM


From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Wed Aug 31 10:11:56 2011
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (Diesel Performance Parts - Info)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:11:56 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Air Fuel Meters
Message-ID: <C22F4A3F0AA3EA488D30A42FC8A4817639B01DA486@DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local>

Members,

Got a few posts on this subject, wanted to remind everyone that as  FOT'er I
offer all Auto Meter  to FOT members are DEEEEEEEEP discount as my company is
a Master WD and it's something I can offer back to the members for all the
help I have gotten over the years.

Go to www.autometer.com<http://www.autometer.com/> and get the part number(s)
you need and e mail me, I'll get you pricing and go from there.

Mark Craig
Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
411 Allied Drive
Nashville, TN 37211
866-455-7788 Phone
615-834-9923 Fax

www.dieselperformanceparts.com


From jhhasty at gdhs.com  Wed Aug 31 10:32:04 2011
From: jhhasty at gdhs.com (John Hasty)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:32:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24
In-Reply-To: <SNT134-W31CD35B13D5789B6BBA9BF90160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DD6739B132804691AD9EC04B54858B85@gdhs.local>

Gee:  makes me want to find the old Curta, odometer counters, instruction
boards etc. from the 1960's, but New Mexico is a little too far for
us...having been the rally master for many, many local events and one SCCA
regional event I can appreciate all the work you have to put into one of
these.....good luck.....have a great time.......

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
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From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Henry Morrison
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:58 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24


I woul like to invite you to the following event:

I am putting together a TSD Road Rally in Taos, New Mexico on September 24th
and would love to have a good turnout especially considering how big a chore
it is turning into. The Rally is a part of the Rio Grande Valley Regional
Rendezvous put on by the British Automobile Owners Association in
Albuquerque. Registration can be had at www.baoa.org Cheers, Henry Morrison,
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 31 11:06:38 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:06:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24
In-Reply-To: <DD6739B132804691AD9EC04B54858B85@gdhs.local>
References: <DD6739B132804691AD9EC04B54858B85@gdhs.local>
Message-ID: <8CE36177B0963A2-125C-23636@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com>

ya,  i have odometers, Halda Speed Pilot, and HEUER watches.....someday they
will come off the shelf.......I see the Halda and HEUER watches are worth a
lot of money these days.





-----Original Message-----
From: John Hasty <jhhasty at gdhs.com>
To: 'Henry Morrison' <dos_gusanos at msn.com>; 'fot' <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 11:51 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24


Gee:  makes me want to find the old Curta, odometer counters, instruction
boards etc. from the 1960's, but New Mexico is a little too far for
us...having been the rally master for many, many local events and one SCCA
regional event I can appreciate all the work you have to put into one of
these.....good luck.....have a great time.......

John H. Hasty
Attorney At Law
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-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Henry Morrison
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:58 AM
To: fot
Subject: [Fot] TSD Rally in Taos, NM Septemvber 24


I woul like to invite you to the following event:

I am putting together a TSD Road Rally in Taos, New Mexico on September 24th
and would love to have a good turnout especially considering how big a chore
it is turning into. The Rally is a part of the Rio Grande Valley Regional
Rendezvous put on by the British Automobile Owners Association in
Albuquerque. Registration can be had at www.baoa.org Cheers, Henry Morrison,
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 31 11:44:40 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:44:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
Message-ID: <8CE361CCB55A158-125C-24042@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com>

....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Aug 31 12:03:08 2011
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:03:08 -0500
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....
Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402684393@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com>

I saw Duck at Siebkens on Saturday night.  He didn't seem to be doing poorly, though he wasn't galloping around the place, either.
 
Scott B.

----- Original Message -----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed Aug 31 12:44:40 2011
Subject: [Fot] DUCK WADDLE ADMITTED....

....to Shebogan Hospital yesterday.

Test results are pending.

Duck is one of our midwest racing icons.

as well as long term Skip Barber Instructor.

He was also a charter member of the North East Iowa Sports Car Club in the
late 50s.

This was during his tenure as a young airman based at the Waverly Radar Base.
He drove a Volvo 544 at ROAD AMERICA at this time, as well as a TR3.

We wish him well and hope that it is not serious.....

If anyone gets an update, please let us know. I heard about his hospital
admission from his wife, this morning, and let Laura at VSCDA know.

Joe Alexander
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From lang at isis.mit.edu  Wed Aug 31 12:36:23 2011
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:36:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Congrats to Walt Hallowell
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108311433290.20680@isis.mit.edu>

FOT Walt Hallowell completed all his runs at the SCCA Solo Nationals just 
now. While he wasn't in the trophy hunt, at least he was there and showing 
off that Triumphs are meant to be driven.

Congrats, man!

I got my fingers crossed for 2012 that I'll be there ready to waive the 
banner.

regards,
rml
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Aug 31 12:43:51 2011
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:43:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Congrats to Walt Hallowell
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108311433290.20680@isis.mit.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.1108311433290.20680@isis.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8CE36250F8AC2FE-1128-17D1F@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com>

hear!  hear!





-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Lang <lang at isis.mit.edu>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 1:39 pm
Subject: [Fot] Congrats to Walt Hallowell


FOT Walt Hallowell completed all his runs at the SCCA Solo Nationals just
now. While he wasn't in the trophy hunt, at least he was there and showing
off that Triumphs are meant to be driven.

Congrats, man!

I got my fingers crossed for 2012 that I'll be there ready to waive the
banner.

regards,
rml
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From timmurph at fastbytes.com  Wed Aug 31 12:58:20 2011
From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:58:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR2 to TR6 clutch parts list & usage
Message-ID: <000001cc680f$f44a4d10$dcdee730$@com>

After my recent post regarding throw out bearing sleeves for the various
clutch styles and models of TR's I got curious and made a spread sheet  of
which clutch and associated parts are used with which model TR and style of
pressure plate.  I used the latest Moss catalogs as well as some  notes from
those who responded to my post.  Tony Drews has posted it on his website,
tonydrews.com, under the "Test" section.  It may be of interest to those who
are new to the game, as Ryan & I are.  I'm sure all the "old hands" know
this stuff already.  Thanks,

 

Tim Murphy

1961 TR4 #317


From triumphs at consolidated.net  Wed Aug 31 16:10:50 2011
From: triumphs at consolidated.net (Ken Gano, home PC)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:10:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter
References: <001201cc67e7$e844c8b0$b8ce5a10$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <F37E1DC75DD947789173EA460F767FDB@SONYATHOME>

I have the Innovate in my street car and love it.  Dig through their web 
site for some really neat products.  The a/f and be daisy chained in a 
complete data logging system that outputs all sorts of neat stuff.

NFI

Ken Gano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexandre Camoletti" <ac at camoletti.ch>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:11 AM
Subject: [Fot] Thank you + A/F Meter


> Dear FOTers, thank you very much for the most interesting inputs about 
> LSDs.
> I will post a summary of the various findings and experiences, I have yet 
> to
> digest all that.
>
> Air Fuel Meter: in order to set up properly my newly set up engine, I will
> (temporarily) fit an AF meter with a plumbed oxygen sensor in the exhaust
> manifold.
>
> I check what is available and it looks like the best set up is the 
> INNOVATE
> MTS (www.innovatemotorsports.com) with an LC-1 and an XD-16 gauge (or G5
> gauge)
>
> What do you think of it ? Any experience?
>
> And what options should I take ? These are several (DL-32?)
>
> Thank you Amici!
>
> All the best
>
> Alex
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From spitfiresuz at 141.com  Wed Aug 31 17:09:07 2011
From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:09:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Air Fuel Meters
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Message-ID: <4E5EBF13.8030707@141.com>

That is very kind of you, Mark! Thank you so much for helping us out!

Keep Triumphing,
Susan    :)


On 8/31/2011 12:11 PM, Diesel Performance Parts - Info wrote:
> Members,
>
> Got a few posts on this subject, wanted to remind everyone that as  FOT'er I
> offer all Auto Meter  to FOT members are DEEEEEEEEP discount as my company is
> a Master WD and it's something I can offer back to the members for all the
> help I have gotten over the years.
>
> Go to www.autometer.com<http://www.autometer.com/>  and get the part number(s)
> you need and e mail me, I'll get you pricing and go from there.
>
> Mark Craig
> Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
> 411 Allied Drive
> Nashville, TN 37211
> 866-455-7788 Phone
> 615-834-9923 Fax
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From rjl at gt-classics.com  Wed Aug 31 20:21:08 2011
From: rjl at gt-classics.com (R. John Lye)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:21:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] FOT
In-Reply-To: <00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
References: <00ae01cc673f$b452af20$1cf80d60$@com>
	<00a401cc6792$a2198790$0501a8c0@hp2572664f9a91>
Message-ID: <4E5EEC14.5030700@gt-classics.com>

I'll nominate Dustin for membership, although I haven't seen him
for a few years, he's a good one and will learn a lot from this
bunch (some of which his father would probably prefer that he
not learn! :-) ).

John Lye

On 8/31/2011 12:01 AM, MORDY DUNST wrote:
> Dustin:
>
> I will post this on the FOT email site.  You may get a response from some
> local folks.
>
> good luck racing...
>
> Mordy
>
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>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Dustin Nicholson
>    To: gasket.works at gte.net
>    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM
>    Subject: FOT
>
>
>    Hi, I'm a long time follower of FOT from the outside.  I've got several
> friends (mostly in Texas) that race Triumphs in CVAR and I'm looking to get
> into it myself.  For the last 15 years I have had stock spitfires and have
> autocrossed them at VTR conventions and I have done a 24 hours of LeMons in a
> TR6, but am now ready to get a real race car.  Can you help me find a beginner
> racing Triumph?  I'd really like to become a  member of FOT, how do I do that?
> I understand y'all have an email group that I'd like to be a part of.
>
>
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Dustin Nicholson
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